Black boy, tell me how you really feel. I just want to build with you.  I just want to keep it real with you. I want to live better, eat better. I want to love better, sleep better. I want to feel so aligned, sublime. One time for the state of mind. Two times for elevated rhymes. Know I architected when I laid design. I drown noise out of the clear blue. I sit, twist the threads of said silence. That's an heirloom. I am the shepherd. I share sheep. I steal fleece funds from the havin' dolls to the matadors. Whose side stepped the bull? Beautifully to that applause. Around rappers, a higher caliber catalog shines. Reminds, I ain't comin' to flatter y'all. I spark chatter. Dark matter, the sharks scatter on these dark waters. Who walked taller? Who barks orders? Godbody, garden what all the laws taught us. Not appear, it's really near. I pierce deep, I'm revered. My steps remain clear with fierce sweeps. Not a man here who could sense me. I'm on the pier, Elohim with the energy. Black boy, tell me how you really feel. I just want to feel with you.  I just want to keep it real with you. I want to live better, eat better, yeah, yeah. I want to love better, sleep better, yeah. I want to feel so aligned. Let me talk to y'all over here, it's a blind. One time for elevated rhymes. Two times for showmanship. Three times for black hands and land ownership revolution. I bring to you where the ring bling to you. Nesey blues on war tunes to sing to you. I am a rebel without a pause, no applause. Trust me, I must be Chuck D getting mine off. Many fools been clock watching my moves and I needed a reappraisal of flavor to the time off.  Off of the coffin and curtain untorn. I'm a rose that rose to etch pros and rosetta stone. Yelling to do a megaphone, always wrapping baby forever home.  I'm the flame keeping the kettle warm and I am to blame for the renaissance is cold. Had to write and recite it with downfellas on. Black boy, tell me how you really feel. Because I just want to feel with you.  I just want to keep it real with you. Yeah, I want to live better, eat better. I want to love better, sleep better. Yeah, I want to feel so aligned. Sublime. One time for elevated rhymes. Two times for showmanship. Three times for black hands and land ownership revolution. I bring to you where the ring bling to you. Nesey blues on war tunes singing to you. I am the rebel without a pause, no applause. Trust me, I am Chuck D getting mine off. Many fools, they clock watchin' my moves and I needed to re-appraise it with flavor. Took some time off now. Back Jesus, black feet are slumbering unborn. All could occur when they curtain untone. I'm the rose that rose, the etch just prones and rose at a stone. Still yelling to do a megaphone, always wrapping baby forever home.  I am the flame keeping the kettle warm. I'm to blame for the renaissance is cold. Had to write and recite it with downfellas on. I love you and write it recited with downfellas on.  Listen, it's the message right here.  Cause I just want to feel with you. Black girl tell me how you really feel. I want to keep it real with you. I want to live better, eat better. I want to love better, sleep better. Yeah, I want to feel so aligned. Y'all give a round of applause to this band right now. What's up family? Please put a thumbs up in the chat if you can hear me okay. I see my brother wrenching the building. Already dropping, dropping a 10 ball for us. Appreciate you brother. Razi, I see you. Excellent, excellent. All right, all right. I appreciate y'all pulling up. This was a last minute decision to do this live stream but I had some thoughts and I wanted to share with y'all and also if you guys are up to it, I want to hear what y'all have to say about the situation as well. But before we get started, my brother Nathan Daly, he's at the Tulsa Real Estate Fund meeting right now. Apparently Jay Morrison has invited investors and interested parties to the black house to field questions. And apparently that's going on right now or it just ended. According to him, he was gonna go live but obviously Jay Morrison did not allow that to happen. So I'm assuming nobody was able to go live but I'm looking forward to hitting him up after this stream and figuring out how that went. You know, if the police had to get involved. So stay tuned for that. But I've got a poll in the chat asking if you guys would be interested in a Jay Morrison case study. So far 67% are saying yes. 11% are saying no and 21% are saying why. And the reason I ask is because I have a lot of notes for this potential case study. So if there's no interest in it, I'm not gonna use up all that time to make it happen. But if there is, I'll consider it. So this isn't a guarantee but yeah, I'll consider it. I'll consider it. But yeah, the reason why we're here, we're here to talk about Brick Gate. Brick Gate, which is interesting because like I told y'all during the last stream, I had a video do some numbers while the channel was banned for two weeks. And that video was about Clarissa Shields and Keith Thurman potentially fighting. And I've been looking at the comments and a lot of the comments are saying it needs to happen. Women need to be taught a lesson. Women need to have to face the music as it were. And unfortunately I think this is an example of what happens when women face the music. I was watching Tariq Nasheed's take on this and I have mixed feelings about Tariq Nasheed. I respect the hell out of them for the hidden color series, for myself and for a lot of people that was our introduction into wokeness quote unquote. It was our introduction into questioning the status quo, wanting to challenge the, just accepted things that we'd been taught about life and about black history as it relates to white history, as it relates to the Americas and the world. So similar to Jay Morrison making financial literacy cool, I appreciate Tariq Nasheed for making consciousness cool. I haven't however been a fan of his new xenophobic position and I understand it.  And what I mean by that is for instance Barack Obama is the quote unquote first black president even though he is the product of an African father and a white mother, right? Barack Obama has no lineage of slavery in the Americas in his family. He might have a lineage of colonialism but that's another conversation. So I understand the frustration, right? I understand that a lot of us as Africans not knowing African American history, barely knowing our own history, we talk down in a very condescending tone to our African American brothers and sisters as we stupidly try to explain away the ghettos and explain away black people's condition in this country. So I understand the new push for B-1 and 8-os and FBA. I get it. However, sometimes I think it goes a little too far and it becomes xenophobia, right? And it becomes divisive and destructive and as somebody who thinks that the only way that we can make it out of our funk as Africans or as African Americans or as Caribbean's is to all be in network with one another. I think it works counter to that progress. So, but yeah, I watched his take and obviously he brought up the fact that the lady is Somalian. He brought up the fact that according to him, African American men wouldn't have stood around and let that happen and African American men would not have assaulted her in that way. And that's obviously speculative. But I do think it is worth a conversation about that part of our community's dynamic, right? One of the things I've mentioned on this channel is that I get comments at times saying that the interviews that I've done are an attempt or have been a tool to make black women look bad.  However, I've also explained that some of the women that I've interviewed have also been African women. Up until the Clarissa Shields video during the numbers that it's done, our second most viewed video is actually my little sister, right? So same mother, same father grew up in the same household. However, she shares some of those same problematic ideas about the male-female dynamic, about women's benevolence in the whole nine. So I've been making the case that these issues that we're talking about transcend just an African American context. And, you know, I've heard the people say, you know, would Nigerians, for instance, allow an African American go over to Nigeria and talk about their women? And my answer to that is, number one, unfortunately, I think Nigerians on the continent would be more willing to listen to y'all than they would actually be to listen to their fellow Nigerian. But again, that is a whole other conversation. But the reality is, you know, American culture, more specifically, African American culture sets the tone for the entire Black diaspora and the entire world, right? So whatever we get right, whatever we get wrong here, it's going to reverberate throughout, you know, the rest of the African world. And I've also made the point that of, or among the most fervent, the most angry and the most adamant Black feminists, I think there are a lot of, as y'all would put it, non-FBAs in their ranks. In my experience alone, some of the most difficult women that I've ever had to talk to were African women, were Caribbean women. And I think that happens for a number of reasons. I think number one, for the ones who didn't grow up in their country of origin, and have adopted this neo-feminist idea, kind of like the whole Clarissa Shio situation, they've never been in a context where masculinity checked their feminism. And all they have is the stories and what they've heard about it.  They swing to the other side of the extreme and they're the most feminist and they're the most, quote, unquote, man-hating, or they're the most disagreeable. And I think, you know, I think that's why this brick gate crescendo moment is a great place to discuss this. So if you guys don't know, the lady on the screen, I think her TikTok handle was Roe Reports.  And when I was sent the video, immediately, I, you know, we live in the era of victim blaming. So, you know, you have to kind of tread lightly, but I immediately thought to myself, what happened? Because she didn't strike me as a damsel in distress. She didn't strike me as a victim in the traditional sense. And again, she is a victim.   This man, this behavior is absolutely reprehensible. However, I do still think it is worth a conversation because during her story, she said that he held up the brick and he said that he was gonna hit me and everybody watched. So for me, the natural question was, why were you watching? Why did you have the impetus, the unmitigated goal, the audacity to stand in front of a grown man with a weapon and continue to talk as opposed to seeking shelter, as opposed to doing the normal things that the physically less imposing in any kind of interaction would do, run. At the very least, attempt to fight, you know, what did you not think that he would do it, basically, right? And again, going back to the Clarissa Shield situation, one of the things that I talked about during the case study is the fact that women haven't had to be at scale, haven't had to be confronted with the reality of our physiological differences. And although she may have frozen, her reflex after the fact to pick up her phone and to record, not to get to an ambulance, not to get the police on the line or get some kind of help, but to record was an indication for me that maybe there's more to this young lady's character than might be evident in this clip that we're seeing. And over the past day or so, a lot of stuff have come out, right?  So in this situation, for her to then attempt to cash in her, I'm a woman card, despite the fact that she claims to expect more protection and provision from her fellow women, it doesn't make sense, right? And I'm reminded of one of the interviews that I did. And the young lady and I were talking about Tyler Perry's temptation movie. And she mentioned that the scene where Lance Gross's character did not defend her in the face of five men was a pivotal scene in her losing respect for Lance Gross's character. And I asked her, I was like, what did you expect him to do? And she said, well, I expected him to try to take those guys on. Maybe you try to fight four, I'm gonna try to fight one. And I explained to her that life doesn't work like movies. You might be the most skilled martial arts person, you know, person, but the odds of you, one person taken on and beating five men is zero, right? And it wasn't until I explained to her that what if Lance Gross's character was your son as opposed to your man, would you want your son to crash out that way, risk his life that way, trying to quote, unquote, defend his damsel in distress?   Because in that film, Lance Gross's character saying, nah baby, let's go, was not framed as protection. But in real life, most of a man's protection is his guidance.    But again, in this fantasy world, an unfortunate number of our women operating, these things are not given consideration, and so much so, that there's an expectation for, again, going back to this phrase that I don't like, there's this expectation for somebody's son to risk their life and their freedom to protect somebody's daughter. I remember there was a clip I posted on TikTok, a while back, I can't even remember what the clip was. One of the comments that stood out to me, the clip was about the protect black women thing. And one of the comments that stood out to me was a man who said that he did just that. He saw a black man and a black woman arguing on the street and he stepped in, and next thing he knows, the man and the woman are jumping on him. And the next day he sees them together, holding hands and doing a lovey-dovey thing. So for me, I think we need to reframe what protection is and who is deserving of protection. Protection is not a right, protection is a privilege, because protection has a cost, right? If I'm protecting you, it means that you are under my jurisdiction, you're under my guidance, and therefore we have a symbiotic relationship. These are my expectations of you, and in return one of your expectations of me is protection. But this expectation and now this shame that's around shaming men for not being willing to just give away their value, aka their life, so freely, it's ridiculous. Which brings me back to the idea that we've been talking about that unfortunately, especially in a Western context, we're not taught that men have value. We're taught that men's value is in their ability to serve and potentially die for the greater good, whatever the greater good might be. Now more specifically for black men, we're taught that his value is in his ability to please me, whatever that might be, on a daily or hourly basis, and crash out.  That is what we're taught. And I think the assignment now for the female delegation, our sisters, is to consider what do black men mean outside of the things that they do for me, outside of them serving me. One of the clips, there's doing some numbers on Instagram right now is a clip where I said if there was a room where men walked through and they were to get evaluated, black women would insist on being in that room, but if there was a room where women were to walk through and get evaluated, they would insist that it was only other women evaluating them. And more specifically, other women that they like. So other women who won't necessarily be honest or brutal in their evaluation. Because again, the overarching theme is that I don't have to like what you like, I don't have to care about what you care about, I don't have to consider your point of view or your critique. I might, if you're my son and I'm worried about your health and your survival, but on a day to day basis, I'm coming already put together. Even the things that I have to work on are part of my beautiful imperfection. But you, I'm God's gift to you. And you should be happy that I'm here to improve you and your life. And I think what we're seeing with the passport bro movement, what we're seeing with, how do you even call this, the bystander movement, is that men are saying, this social contract that we had is now broken.  And he pulls up to my house with a oozy or something. And I think a perfect example of this is one of the videos that came out from a brother who was at this event. And he was one of the bystanders and he basically said, I have to make it home to my daughter. And just based on how she was moving, she's not worth me risking anything, let alone my life. The tragic part about this is she's a boy mom.  And she has stated repeatedly her disdain and her contempt for men, more specifically black men.  And I tell women that the men that y'all complain the most about were raised by y'all. If you look at her Instagram, you look at her TikTok, which I believe is now deleted.   Cause again, that's the part that annoys me. It's like, we use the term protection so flippantly.  It's my willingness to put my life in front of yours. To put my life in the line of fire, to forget about whatever obligations I have to live for and to prioritize whatever it is that you have to live for. Me personally, I'm only willing to do that for a woman under my jurisdiction. And on the rare occasion that I'm willing to do that for a stranger, this stranger must be an exceptional stranger. Because again, I'm still a man and there still is that, how am I gonna put it? There still is that desire to assist a damsel in distress. But I'm not jumping into a fight with Rocky Balboa. And what's the other guy's name? Mr. T. Y'all got it. And the fact that we are framing this as weakness the fact that we are framing this as some failing of masculinity and I've seen even men frame it this way is idiotic. Because again, it's easy to conceptualize these things when we're talking about what men should have done, what men should have done. But frame it as would you want your son, your son that your wife suffered nine months for and you suffered 18 years to raise whatever the case may be. Literally crashing out for nothing. Now we've heard the stories of the high school kid who got in between of a mass shooter who's gunning after his fellow students. That's different, that boy is a hero. But in situations like this, those men are forgotten. Because again, that social contract of this is the behavior of a chivalrous man and this is the behavior of a woman worth shivery, is broken. You cannot continue to say I'm worth everything I was worth before. I deserve all the same privileges of traditional masculinity without subscribing to the same expectations of traditional femininity. It doesn't work like that. And like I said, I don't condone, some people say it's a Haitian dude who hit her with a brick. Some people said it's a Somalian dude. And I tell sisters that American men have really spoiled American women into thinking that there's quote unquote better out there. I've said on multiple occasions, American men are the most accommodating men on this planet.  And even though it sounds like a compliment, it isn't, it isn't. Because when these women go overseas, you're not finding men who make six figures. You're not finding men who don't care what weight you are. You're not finding men who are gonna tolerate an attitude or a talking back. You're not finding men who define themselves by their ability to tame wild stallions. You're not finding that. So instead of being appreciative of American men who relative to any other man on the planet is liberal, is accommodating, is understanding. And again, this is good and bad, right? Instead, the culture is continuing to complain, asking him to be more and to be better. And again, it's not sustainable, you know? To Tariq Nasheed's point, the way that she talks and moves, she wouldn't talk and move like that in her own country. But she's grown accustomed to operating any type of way. And unfortunately, this, I don't even think this is gonna be her wake-up call. That's what I was gonna say. I don't think it's gonna be her wake-up call. Right now, I think she's made $30,000 on GoFundMe. I think this is just gonna be more validation for her. Now she's gonna be a feminist activist and DV spokesperson in the whole nine. But it's not going to change her behavior. I think, unfortunately, women like this are kinda too far gone. And I'm just, I'm sad for her son.  Right? And you see, I've said it before, you see two outcomes.  Or you see the guy who was subconsciously getting game from his mom. Now he's a super same version of future.  So how can any other woman that I encounter in life be worth a damn?   And they were quote unquote free.  Well-behaved women seldom make history. I'd add to that and say misbehaved women are seldom protected. So I'm gonna drop the link. And I don't wanna keep talking to myself. So for the next 30 minutes, I wanna hear y'all's thoughts. Please click that like button. We have almost 200 people in here, only 68 likes. Likes is what helps the algorithm pick this up. So please take two seconds. Just press that like button. That's all. That's all you have to do. Even with other videos that are on the channel, please just get in the habit of pressing the like button. Let me see, let me see. Again, salute to Range Turner. Appreciate you, brother. Mr. Me Too, he says, sliding through the show, some love, big old support black men. Media, appreciate you, my brother. I don't know if y'all can hear these same texts, but I'm gonna push them and listen to this. Appreciate you, man. Let's see, let's see who else. Mr. Me Too also just became a member. Thank you, brother. Stuart, I see you, brother. I see you in here. It says it twice. I don't know why it says it twice. But anyway, let me drop this link. Hey, I wanna hear y'all's thoughts and then we're gonna get up out of here. But I'm still working on the rest of the Tia Sahn-Johnson interview. If you haven't seen a part of it, I dropped a part of it a few weeks ago where he was talking about the recent Barbie movie. So that's kind of a glimpse into the rest of it. But the rest of it is framed as a tool for us. So I framed it as him explaining black masculinist studies and black masculinity to different cohorts of women. So in part of it, he's explaining it to little girls. So like seven to 12, then he's explaining it to teenage girls like 13 to 19. Then he's explaining it. So he explains it with increasing difficulty and with increasing nuance as he goes up. So for your daughters, for your sisters, for your aunts, for your mothers, for your nieces, for your coworkers, for your friends, you can send them this one video which essentially is a masterclass and he walks them through the nuances of black masculinity and more specifically black masculinity studies at each of these levels. So yeah, so y'all stay tuned for that. Unfortunately, I know those videos don't really perform well because they're not something current like this. I know they're not something, you know, what's the term? In line with the mannisfier at large, so you know, the algorithm doesn't really pick it up, but that's why I beg you guys to get in the habit of navigating to the videos tab just to see what is new because these videos are difficult to produce and you know, your support keeps it going. So if you haven't already considered a cash happen, those help tremendously only because, you know, YouTube takes 30% of our super chats of our anything that comes to the channel, YouTube takes 30%, but with Cash App, that comes directly to the channel. Also, if you haven't already, please go click the subscribe button on our second channel. I started a second channel during the ban. And for two reasons, number one, in case YouTube kicks us off, we have a second channel. So that is WN2, number two, talk. And matter of fact, let me share my screen. Give me one second. But also, yeah, the link is pinned if you guys wanna come chop it up. All right, so YouTube. All right, so I have it on the homepage. So as soon as you go to We Need to Talk, after whatever's featured, you're going to see our backup channel right now. We have 877 subscribers. If we can get to 1,000, I will continue to post there so we can get to 4,000 watch hours and monetize that channel as well. Recent case studies, you know, Netflix, The Ultimatum. This is really just a shorter version of my conversation with Courtney about intercourse. So check that out, it was interesting, it was honest. Netflix, The Ultimatum.  If you haven't already, it touches on some of the elements that we discuss. I framed this case study focusing on the two black men, one of which is a watcher of the channel, right? Trey watches the channel.  And then the other, Brian Okoye, he is Nigerian as well. I think I'm doubly disappointed in him. Turns out, I don't want to ruin it. Go watch the case study.  Also did a case study on Steve Harvey, the Steve Harvey and majority rumor of her cheating on him. Obviously it was fake, but there was still a lot of, there was still a lot of teachable nuggets in that situation, so I covered that. Same with the random man from Atlanta situation. I focused on the girl, because I think focusing on the problematic individual is low hanging fruit, and on this channel we try to make things a bit more nuanced and show the large picture. And then this is just a short of what happened while I was banning what I learned. Today I dropped an unreleased 54 minute, I can't even call it an interview because I wasn't even in the room. I just turned the camera on and she talked to the camera as she went through you guys' comments from both of her early videos that she appeared on. So that's really really really good. One of the, well a few of the clips on YouTube that I posted in recent days of doing numbers are from this video, so make sure you check that out. And also if you haven't caught up on other Kevin Sandman started this conversation. Videos, make sure you catch up on those. As you can see, the views are not looking like they used to look, so I need y'all's help. The table, the podcast series that we started recently, episode two has been up now for almost two weeks. And compared to episode one, it is not doing anything. All right, so please go check those out. They're actually really good. This is a shortened version. This is the full episode two. We're actually recording episode three, Sunday. And apparently Ilyosophical is supposed to pull up. So please help us keep this thing going. Episode one was great, obviously it's got 50,000 views but I think it could be better. But we have to work within what YouTube gives us sometimes. But as you can see, this is the piece of my interview with Dr. Tia San-Johnson where he focused on, or he segwayed from the Barbie movie to Andrew Tate to Kevin Samuels. So check that out. The Nick Fuentez situation, if you guys don't know, I interviewed the young lady who kissed him. That video's there. Some other videos from the Listen to Black Men series. Videos from the Traveling Podcast series. Videos from the Black Marriage Masterclass series. And then the We Need to Talk Live and also OG content. If you guys get a chance, go look at some of the videos that I was making before I was officially a YouTuber. Happiness is Boring is actually one of my favorite. Me and somebody's son as well. Women are like bathrooms. I might just repost that because that's too good to not be seen again. So yeah, as you know, nobody's coming up so I'm assuming y'all ain't got nothing to say. So let me see if anybody's saying something to comment. Feminine Miracles, she says, situations like this scare me. I don't think anyone should be hit with a brick over words. I agree with you one million percent.  I think that is very obvious. However, in order for us to mitigate the occurrence of these situations in the lives of the women that we care about, we need to show them examples of these are people where these type of things are more likely to happen to and these are people where these type of things are less likely to happen to. And again, I'm well aware that some women, because of where they live, maybe because of how they look, they're always going to be the target.  And I think unfortunately the only thing there is to be in proximity with men that care about you and love you. So your father's, your brother's, your boyfriend, your husband. Because again, this story that we've been told that women don't need men. Situations like this show us that it's not true, right? So I think for our sisters that's the lesson here. All right, CP the artist, I see you brothers. Let me get this off the screen. Let me make sure I didn't miss anything else. All right, we're good. CP, what's going on brother? Oh, I forgot. I'm the only one with his face to the camera. Yeah. What's up brother? All right. I'm chilling man, talk to me. I gotta strongly disagree with your take. And I had this argument on Twitter. And I, okay, so I've heard the narratives that a man shouldn't risk his life for someone that isn't worth it. Number one, those men didn't know her content until after the situation. Number one, number two, conflict resolution doesn't always have to mean violence. So if two men are in a discussion is getting heated, I could step in and kind of calm somebody down with a Jedi mind tricks. Number three, this is the most important one.  Nobody died. Unfortunately, she got hit in the head with a brick. So obviously, if I'm taking a risk assessment on how far my livelihood is going to interact, then I'm going to assess that either fight or flight. So this whole narrative that which I'm embarrassed about, black men are created is really stooped in fear. And I believe more of black men say, oh, I told you so because look at her Instagram and so forth and so on. It's just justification. So I don't want to say too much, but break down my observation. So this is what I would say. And I appreciate your observation because I think it's in an ideal world. I would actually default to that. I would default to if you see anybody in distress, your reflex should be to help. However, we do not live in an ideal world. And I would default to assessing not just the situation but both people involved. And to your point, you're right. She might have been a damsel in distress and now they're using the Instagram and all that stuff to justify their unwillingness to help. Or they might have observed the events leading up to that. They might have observed an unruly woman who was smacking white dudes, putting her hand in his face and antagonizing him. And they decided that, oh, this isn't a woman worth me risking my life or my freedom. And to your point about what about the situation made men consider a life threat? I think that is a baseline assumption for all men, especially adult men because we know how things can escalate. And not necessarily then and there but how they can escalate beyond the situation. Brother, I've heard stories of dudes who were followed home and shot point blank because they stepped on somebody's Jordan's own accident. I've heard stories of men being stabbed because they stepped in to break up something. My mom, one of the miscarriages that she had was because she stepped into a fight across the street. So our first responsibility as humans is self-preservation. And I don't think that should change or we should compromise that in an unreasonable way, simply because we're trying to fulfill some Superman trope that we've been taught that we are responsible to fulfill. And that's my stance with it. So I'm not saying that men should not protect women or men should not step in the middle of things or de-escalate things. I'm saying that it's all right for men to be selective with who they do it for and when they choose to do it. Here's my rebuttal to that. Number one, you brought up again that she smacked white men and all this other stuff. That was on her Instagram. Those strangers did not know that. That's conjecture. They did not know all those skits that she does. Number one, she is a father. How should I put, social media person, I'll give you that. But me as a man who loved my sister, loved my mother and we grew up where I wasn't always gonna be able to protect them because they worked. My mom worked in Manhattan, she used to take a train and a bus down to, you know, back home. And so there was nights where she had to be protected and come home safe. Now, if I'm not around, I would hope that some man would not actually risk their life, but just step in and I'll give you an example. You know, I'm an artist. I was able to quit my job because I did a movie and this has to coincide with this. And at that movie where I was doing this mural, there was an argument between the security of the movie and the building owner of that establishment. The security guy was hired by the production crew and we'll keep the story short. They started arguing over a parking spot. These two men were armed, two black men, they were armed. It was everybody on set, just the art department because it was me and the art department and whatever. It got so heated, I had to step in because they were both armed. It took me 15 minutes pushing one guy away, pushing another guy away. And finally, you know, cool heads revolved, evolved, whatever and they like. I put my life on the line for that. So I actually, I was trying to cut, I was like, yo, were you gonna shoot him? He said, you saw me backing up because I was giving myself space to shoot him because this is my property, I could shoot him. And he's armed, so I could shoot him. So here's the thing. I'm not asking people to be man like me. But I've been through life and death situations enough that's to say, I could access a situation and be like, okay, is this really gonna end my life or not? And from the guy that said, hey, I saw what happened, bro, it wasn't gonna really end his life. If that dude wanted to end her life and since nobody stopped him, he could've. So it shows that his only weapon was a brick. Nobody's life was gonna end.  Nobody was gonna get beat up. So it's like that shows, and this is the saddest thing, right, and I'll end it here. All that propaganda that her side, because she's a feminist and all this stuff, and all this that I've seen on social media that people were like, oh yeah, she got what she deserved, it validates her point. It just validates her point as crazy as she is or whatever, and I'm not here to judge her, but whatever would be, I would at least step them between like, yo, bro, just go home, don't worry about it, bro, you don't wanna be arrested. Think about that, try to calm him down, let him go. That's how it is, we wanna be having this conversation. I think you made good points. I would say that it is a bit of survivorship bias. It's like when you have, for example, what's going on with Jay Morrison right now? Is that the... Is that the... The real estate guy, Tulsa, real estate guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he had something here in Atlanta. Yeah, I think it's actually still going on, but part of how those type of individuals find success, part of the reason why like multi-level marketing companies find success is that despite the fact that only the top 1% make money, they convince you that you'll be part of that top 1%. They convince you to dismiss the overwhelming data and evidence that things might not go according to plan to convince you that it will. Now, my only issue, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with if you were there, for instance, and you chose to step in, or if anybody else was there and they chose to step in. Hell, that might have been my personal reflex. What I am saying, however, is to demonize the men who choose not to, I think is incorrect. What I'm saying is that a man's provision, any man's provision, mine, yours, anybody else's, and your protection is yours to give out, right? You have the last right of refusal to say that I will give this person $10, I'll give this person 10 minutes of my time, or I'll step in the line for this person. It should not be a right, and that's the issue that I have, is when men are now being graded by their expectation to do something that might not be in their best interest, despite how they have evaluated the situation. That's the risk that you wanna take that's cool. That's the risk that he doesn't want to take that's cool as well. It does not make him any more or less of a man than you. That's the issue that I have, because unfortunately, just like I went to survivorship bias, we talk about the men who broke it up and things went great.  Those same neighbors ended up fighting again. So when you zoom out, she lost a kid for what? So that's my point. So if let's say somebody was shaming my mom for deciding not to step in, that would be incorrect. And similarly, somebody shaming any of these men, whether or not, because again, we weren't there, so one of the ladies in the background was saying they weren't even here during this time. If they choose to step in or if they choose not to step in, that is their prerogative. Nobody is entitled to your participation. This is true. I understand and sorry to hear that about your mom. I know it's probably been a long time, but thoughts and prayers to her. But I have to push back because we can't carry kids and so we don't have no thing of, we can have a miscarriage. And number one, as I said, you do not have to fight the guy. All you have to do is just step in and calm him down.  She ain't worth it.  Don't worry about it. Just I think I see five hoes, something, whatever. You could watch it like that. You could tell her, yo, or push her away from the situation like, no, no, back up. He need for play places, like whatever. Could have been a situation like that. But again, to your point where you talked about demonizing men, look, let's keep it real. For the last thousands of hundreds of years, right? If you were on the boat and it was sinking, it's who and who first? Women and children. Exactly. So what if you're the man like Michael Scott? No, no, it wasn't Michael Scott. It was, what's his name? It was episode of Seinfeld, where George, he was at a party and there was a fire. It was a children's party. And he ran out like a man, he ran out, kicked the kids aside, whatever, whether it was a fire inside and people were like, why didn't you do anything? You know what I'm saying? He left the kids and the women in the thing and the clown up in there. He got real ridiculed for that. The thing is as men, and I'm from an older generation around 47 years old, this would have been, I'm not gonna say a hundred percent, but I would say over 70% of men my age would have stepped in and been like, yo dude, do something. It doesn't have to be a physical confrontation where I'm going into either, and here's another thing too that you're forgetting. I could take his life too. Sure. You ever thought about that? So these excuses with your fight or flight mechanism, and maybe I'm from a different era because all we did was fight with our hands and now, yeah, we live in a generation where everybody wants to shoot. Nobody fight the world.   I mean, I understand what you're saying. I think your Titanic example is excellent because I think what it exemplifies is the different social contracts that we had back then versus what we have now, right? Part of the reason why the expectation was women and children is because our society operated under a certain type of hierarchy, right? Kind of like, you know, people say the man eats first. The reason why the man eats first is he needs to have energy in case he needs to do exactly what you said and protect the family and put his life in danger. He needs to be nourished and it's also consistent with the animal kingdom. However, now that our social contracts are changing, we cannot continue to have the same social expectations. Unfortunately, and for me, I think that's why I put the responsibility on the individual to make that choice for themselves. Because again, the man who actually came out and said he was there, the point he brought up is I had to make it home to my daughter. So as a man, you have to, number one, assess the situation, which means you assess the aggressor and you assess the quote, unquote, victim. And then you have to assess yourself and your ability in that moment to handle it, whether you might be somebody who's got the gift of gab and maybe you know that, I mean, I could talk down any situation. You might not have that gift. Maybe you have your big, strong guy you can fight. Maybe you can lean on that. But even after that, you also have to assess what's on the line. Unfortunately, and me and Courtney actually got into an argument about this, Courtney idealizes Tupac, right? Like a lot of women, a lot of women like Tupac, right? And for me, Tupac represents the archetype of man who quote, unquote, has nothing to lose or is willing to, as Kevin Gates would put it, I'm willing to die about this, right?  And unfortunately, I think we have grown accustomed to that archetype of man, be I have nothing to lose, man, right? So now when we are confronted with men who are saying, hold up, no, I got some shit to lose and I have to make sure that if I'm going to lose it, it's worth it. Because this idea that he's gonna be touted as a hero if things go left, it's not true anymore. Unfortunately, it's not true anymore. And I don't think he or anybody there needed to see her Instagram to while assessing the situation, assess if she was the type of woman worth stepping in for. And again, it is still at the discretion of the man and it makes him no bigger or smaller if he chooses to step in. Now again, if this was a woman who, a Sunday school teacher, nice, good temperament woman wouldn't hurt a fly, there would be no question. Men naturally step in. There are men in prison right now. There are men in prison right now who are in prison for defending women, right? But unfortunately, what we're seeing happen is there is more of a growth in a number of women who claim to not need men until their need for men requires a man's sacrifice and a man's potential life sacrifice. And that's the issue that I have with this. So no, I don't think he's any lesser or any better if he stepped in or not. I will give you this. You did a video that I did agree with with that situation where the dude was dating some girl that she was actually married and her brother went to go.  You remember that, what was his name? I can't remember his name. Okay, but you know what I'm talking about. That situation, you are 100% right.  And he ended up getting killed. And she didn't care when she was on the stand that her brother died, whatever. That is a situation where overmasculinity would have been a problem. See, I feel like we use these extremes to use a definition for everybody. I'm just talking about stepping in between both of them. So he doesn't get hurt, she doesn't get hurt. They both go home. That's all I'm saying.  But all I'm saying is a man could squash a situation without violence. Because I've had, I'm sure, and you said something earlier about the whole social constructs that are evaporating. Okay, if they're evaporating, then don't get mad at women for being like a woman like she is. Very masculine, very mean. Because if she's saying that she could take care of herself, then okay, then let's have a world where we could, Washington, America, start wearing panties and lipstick and not be judged for it. This social construct that's been changing only has been changing from our human history in the Western society for the last maybe what? Five, 10 years. I'm talking about from day one, it was us, men who used to hunt, kill, destroy and come back. Well, we went into world wars, whatever. Forget, let's talk about, let's forget the military, industrial complex and all those other stuff. But historically, when our tribes in Africa, when we fought, we fought for our families. Because if we lost, they would get raped. They would be put in slavery. I'm sorry I said that word. No, no, you just made a good point. You said we fought for our, right? There's a sense of ownership almost. There's a sense of proximity, right?  I protect and I provide for the people under my jurisdiction. And I care about what's going on in another kingdom as it relates to what could potentially affect me and the people in my kingdom. So with that being said, unless you believe that number one, every single woman is deserving of protection, and yourself, your sons and all the men that you care about should be ready and willing to sacrifice themselves potentially for every single woman, unless you believe that you cannot say that these men who chose to stand back are in the wrong. Yes, I believe that, because if it was their wives, girlfriends, sisters, or a mother in that same situation, that same scenario, they would be crying, where was the man that, whatever?  Come on, let's call it spade and spade. I know you have women in your family, bro. You have female friends. They, if they were in that situation, you weren't around. And I'm not, and I'm simply not even asking for another man to take another man's life. All I'm asking is for a man or two to step in, say, yo, brother, don't worry about her. She's high, drunk, whatever. She's on some other stuff, whatever. Go home, there's some other women around. Enjoy yourself or don't enjoy yourself, whatever. It's not worth it. That's all I'm saying. And I do feel that we gotta tell people that they, us men, certain men are punks. If fresh and fit could get on live television, challenge men to a fight that will never happen.  It's in our DNA to have an alpha male, a beta male, and all those other, I know you probably don't believe all of those stuff. Signal male, which I consider myself, I consider myself a signal male, whatever. And to your kingdom thing, I do believe we're all the kingdom. I fight, you started this with Tariq Nasheed. I can't stand Tariq Nasheed. If there ain't any of y'all, FBAs in here, whatever, come check my channel out, whatever, because I can't stand to do because I'm a non-FBA. Parents are Jamaican, whatever. And I believe that we are a whole, whatever, and once we start not caring about the weakest, and if we stop believing that I am my brother's keeper, because like I said, what if I'm looking out for him? Because now he could spend probably the rest of his life in prison because that wasn't tempered, and you know, whatever. I don't know if I could say certain things on YouTube, but you know, because he hit her with a blunt object. So my thing is like the more we start breaking down these things like you just mentioned, where are we as a black society? Because I feel like what your friend said about Tupac is that women are looking for that and also men are looking for that too, because we're growing a generation that just really doesn't care about anything, but self-preservation. I'll say this. Let me ask you a question. So you're saying that the expectation should be that all men, every man should be ready and willing to step in for all women, every woman, right? In what areas or in what ways should all women, every women be ready to step in for men? Why they don't need to step in for us, because we are men. Like, I'm not necessarily step in. Step in was the wrong way to put that. I mean, what should all men be able to expect from all women? If all women should be able to expect protection from all men, what is the, again, going back to that social contract, because back in the day, you might be able to say that if you're the lady in the neighborhood, any man who comes to the house can expect a meal or can expect courtesy out in public, those things are no longer the case so that social contract is broken. So I guess the social contract that you're pushing for is kind of a one-sided social contract. So if random men should be willing and able to step in for random women, in what ways should random women be willing and able to help serve random men? Whatever they feel they need, like maybe a nurturing, maybe some type of way. Are you talking about in a situation like this, like if... No, no, no, I'm just saying... Oh, society-wise? Yeah, society-wise, like what should our ex... If we agree that women on the macro's expectation should be that all men, any man, should be willing and able to step in for her, what should our expectation be of women? Okay, okay. To be multipliers, as they are. Women, good women, not all women. Well, I could say bad women too in this scenario because women are multipliers. Good women will multiply. Again, she can only multiply if she's in proximity with you. So your girlfriend, your wife. I'm talking about strangers, because again, that's my issue. So for instance, if my girl was out, right, I would have some expectation of you to step in, but I don't have an expectation of a dude I don't know. And I would have less of an expectation for you as I would like one of my brothers, right? Similarly, she has no expectation for some random person. But again, if one of my boys are over to the house, yeah, I have an expectation, he should have an expectation that there's gonna be some food over here. Because again, there's that symbiotic relationship and we're under each other's jurisdiction in different ways. But again, I don't expect nurturing from a woman who's outside of my jurisdiction and I'm outside of her purview. And similarly, she should not expect protection from me. And if I choose to give it to her, that's a privilege. That's not an expectation. It is a privilege, I agree. But getting back to your question, which I'm still confused about, what a woman could give to us that complete strangers, it's a confusing question to me because I view us men as three ways. Priests, providers, and protectors. Women are not that.  Like if you had a cat and you own a dog, your dog is there to protect you. Your cat is running point blank. That's in their DNA. Their DNA is not the fight. That's why 96% of us men are in the war. We are built for war and for killing. That's why you are stronger than your little sister. I'm stronger than my little sister. We could do, God created us to fight, kill, and that's the best thing about being a man. That's why I love being a man. And here's another thing, young boys, right?  And that's one thing I love about being a man is that I can create and I can destroy something. So sometimes I'm 47 years old, I still want to fight. I still want, especially these managers here, I still want to fight. You know what I'm saying? Thank God it's still got testosterone over 18 year old. But my thing is like, as much as we say we want to get rid of, well, the social construct is changing, then we can't complain with women like her do the things that they do and more and more relationships are failed because we are putting our whole society, and this is not just the man's fault, there's also women's fault too when it comes to the destruction of femininity and the destruction of masculinity, it's both our faults. And as a society, if I do something manly as a man, right, that puts a woman in her feminine. That's straight out of the book of David Dieter, Waze of Superior Man. More masculine than you are. You know I have an issue with that book. Why is that? That's the best book in the world. You know I have an issue with that book because that book asserts the idea that... Did you see my case study on the Ultimatum show? Yeah, it's a show on Netflix. I think second to the last case study that I did is about that. And basically I likened the men on that show to matadors, right? A lot of us as men we've been taught and I think this is the idea that the book pushes that you are a superior man if you know how to tame wild women, wild horses, right? If you know how to get out of the way just at the right time before the bull runs through the red curtain. And I think that's been a damaging thing to masculinity. And also Warren Farrell talks about the consequence of men and boys being fodder for war. Right? Part of the reason why we find it hard to empathize with men and boys is because for millennia men and boys existed just to feed the war machine. So men and boys existed to die. Basically, as a man you were as good as how well you could die. And as time is changing, as wars are no longer as necessary, men are realizing that, hola, we're people too. We have feelings and emotions and fears and considerations in the whole nine. So again, for us to continue to hold ourselves to those archaic paradigms of masculinity in a world that doesn't reward it is the issue that I have. So again, if I was there, if some other brothers were there, they might have stepped in. And also who knows? Maybe somebody did step in like you said and try to deescalate. But again, according to the personality that she's presented on social media, we've met those type of unruly women.  So if a man decides, hey, I don't wanna do with this, I don't blame you, brother. That's how I look at it. Cause I got a daughter at home. I got things to lose. Shit, I'm drunk right now. I'm heading home. I'm not about, this is not my fight. And I think every man reserves the right to say that this is not my fight. If this situation warrants that, but obviously that is conjecture because number one, nobody died. She got hit with a brick. He could have killed her. Yes. But like, as I said, you do not need, you don't need to match violence with violence. And then to your other point, it's not okay. This is how we were born. We were born with more testosterone than- No, no, I'm not saying that part. I'm saying the expectations of men. But here's the, here's the, here's the caveat, right? Because we were born with more testosterone. Like I was in an office building before I quit become a full-time artist. And there was women on that feminism stuff. And they were like, oh, we don't need you. We don't need you. And I was like, one of the only men in the office. There actually was two other guys, but they were old. Anyway, I was like, you know, the youngest dude.  The next time you see a spider in the office, I ain't killing it. There's like CP stop playing. So when there was a spider, I was like, I'm not killing it.  Okay, I'm sorry. No, stop playing. Stop playing. And I got killed.  So I guess my point is, is this. It's in our DNA, fight, kill, and destroy in B-men. And I think the problem is, is that we have so many men that have testosterone that putting our testosterone in the wrong things. And I think there might be testosterone disorders because I think men are acting a lot more feminine and women are acting more masculine. And that's a problem that we got corrected. Rich, what's going on, brother? Going on good, brother, how you doing? I'm good, man, long time, man. Go ahead, chime in, man. What you think about all this? Bro, first of all, salute to the panel. Salute to the brothers in chat. Appreciate you having me on, bro. So I would ask the question. I was in there trying to jot down some notes, but... So she's a Somalian chick, right? And she's pushing the narrative that wouldn't survive in her own country amongst the men of that country. So what makes it okay for her to, number one, benefit from the work that have been done by the ancestors in order for her to be here? What gives her the right to then come here, go against what her own culture does in that country, get here and push an agenda that is detrimental to the future of people that look like me? That would be my question. The next thing I would say is, name a society whose women operate this way that is successful in thriving. You look at India, that women don't operate this way. You look at China, that women don't operate this way. You look at Russia, that women don't operate this way. We are the only ones who have this idea that you let them do whatever they wanna do and then you just step in and protect them. No, Kevin used to say it all the time, the standard is the standard, right? The standard is the standard. You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with it. But the standard is the standard and it's the standard for a reason. You know what I mean? The last little bit I'll say before I land my plane is we have enough evidence and history has shown that where water can go, water will go. And that's what I think about women. As men, we set the boundaries true enough. But when you loosen up those boundaries, this is what you get. And to ask brothers to go out here and compete with every other man who does not have the same dynamic as it relates to the relationships, as it relates to the family structure, as it relates to the way, as it relates to the way that their women interact with them to ask us to go out and compete with those men and then in turn turn around and protect women who are not on our program, it's a death sentence. It doesn't make sense. I'll land my plane there. Absolutely. How would you respond, brother? T.P. Oh, me? I thought about the group. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so he says that how is she allowed to operate in a society that in her own society is Somalia. Now Somalia is a terrible place to live for a lot of women and men also. There's slavery around the world. Now without real men, real men are put in place to defend not only the themselves, but for weaker men, the children and the women.  That would be my counter question if you're gonna ask that question.  And I knew that, you know what?  I could ruin my whole life. Walking away and having a mindset that says, you know what, if I match fire with fire, I might lose everything, but it's funny. We make the focus on her. But this dude, we don't even know what he looked like, which is weird to me. And I'll have my playing right there. That's it, it's just weird to me. If I can rebuttal that real quick. Absolutely. So you said, when is it right to hit a woman with a brick? What society is it okay to hit a woman? A society that built a thriving metropolis in the middle of the desert than they call it Dubai now.  And meanwhile, we are having a discussion about a woman who is clearly outside of bounds of what any culture would consider a woman to be way outside of the bounds. Now, let me say this also. And I, you know, you would think that this is common sense, but is it okay to hit a woman with a brick? Bro, no. But people who are listening to this channel, brothers who are chiming in, are normally the productive brothers who care to listen to this type of message and how to discussion. That's not all, that's not all brothers.  It's some brothers out there that ain't worried about getting up and going to work tomorrow. It's some brothers that are on the run. They got blue warrants out there on probation. And they try and it's some brothers out there that's a halfway addicts and they're hanging out in certain spots where people get hit with bricks. Let's say that I'm pretty sure this brother is not was not out partying and then was gonna go home, get him a good night's rest and then get up and go and approve time cards in the morning. Those are not the brothers that are, but these brothers are out here, right? So you are pretty much asking the productive brothers who have foresight and the brothers who are also positively affecting society to go out here and combat some of the lowest rungs of society for somebody who was way outside of bounds. I have a 19 year old daughter. My daughter told me, she said, she said, dad, you know, I was in school and there were two boys getting ready to get in the fight and people were trying to break it up. And I remember that you told me not to get in anything like that because you don't want to have to come up to the school and I stayed out of it and the girl got clocked. This is a conversation I had with my daughter, you know what I mean? So I say all of that to say that we can keep trying to reinvent the wheel. We can keep trying to pivot and come up with this pie in the sky idea of what men should be and how we should operate in this society. But history has shown us where water can go, water will go, meaning as if the boundaries are porous then women are gonna flow through them, right? Not saying that this needs to be Saudi Arabia, not saying that it needs to be Dubai.  The writing is on the wall. What has happened, and we've been talking about this for years, what is happening?    I got actually a question as a father.  Yep. And she's made, you know, with a boyfriend that violated her in some way. Yep. What is your course of action? I can send a text message and put five bands in the hood. Okay. So you mentioned something that, you know, you put five bands in the hood, they'll take care of the situation, okay? Those men have no relationship to her, but they have a relationship with you. They have a relationship with her. She called them uncle. They were homeboys I grew up with. Okay, respectfully. So my thing is that you take care of that situation, you put in his life on the line, you take care of him, you put everybody else's life on the line, whatever, and then there's like this circle, right? But I ain't gonna knock you on that. At least you took care of something that that's your flesh and blood. And I probably do the same exact thing. All I'm saying is that what if your boy said that has nothing to deal with me? I'm not risking my freedom for you. That's not my child. See what I'm saying? Like you went with real men. So real men gonna do some real things. All I'm saying is there are segments of men that ain't no real men. Right? Can I jump in real quick? I'm waiting. Yeah, go ahead, brother. Yeah, go ahead, brother. So to the boy I had to do, I'm sorry, I don't know your name. C.P., the artist. C.P., yeah. Subscribe to my channel. Yeah, I enjoy your stuff here, I've seen. So we come from the same culture. So I'm Jamaican as well, and I get how hyper-masculine the culture is.   That's not your role. You wanna protect your family? Absolutely. You wanna protect the people that are around you? Absolutely.  That you have no clue what went on?  Why does your freedom have to be at stake? Why does your life have to be at stake for people you don't know who wouldn't do the same for you? Because again, whatever I hear all this protect all women, black women, whatever, I've never in my life heard what they wanna do for us. There is no call to action to, I wanna do this for black men. There is no call to action to, I wanna nurture and help you get to your goals. I'm not asking for anybody to go out there and fight for me.  That's not a call to action. That doesn't happen. So why do you have all this responsibility? Why are you putting this on yourself? Cause this doesn't, you doing this isn't going to make the situation any better for the rest of the community only because it requires cooperation and we do not have that. We have a very anti-black, very self-hating community at the moment.   It's not real life. I don't know about you, but a lot of women wanna be around me. And if women don't wanna be around you, that's a personal problem. You know what I meant, like, come on, man. I'm just saying. Good, man. I just had to interject that because on my channel, on my channel, I'd be telling the brothers like, yo, if women don't wanna be around you, that's a you problem. They ain't a woman problem. Cause there's a lot of women, there's more women than there are men. So there, they could be around me. I know you probably came here late. All I said was, violence didn't have to match violence in the situation. You could have just told that brother, yo, bro, she ain't worth it. Just go home. You don't wanna go to jail. So from so on, she's a bird. Keep it, keep it pushing. If Vinny is throwing bricks, he's beyond conversation. If Vinny is throwing bricks, he's beyond conversation. I hear that, but there was a point before it got to that point. There was a point before it got to that point. And she was the aggressor. Whether she was or not, the thing is, is that she's the bird. She's just turban away and so forth and so on. My thing is like, look, I'm 47 years old. You think I haven't been called the worst things in the book, but I have no records or anything like that. My freedom is more important to me. So I'm just gonna walk away. She could keep on turban. She's gonna be home with a yeast infection at the end of the day or whatever. I don't care. But I'm not risking my freedom to hit her with a brick. And I'm not- What was the risk or freedom to interject in her nonsense? As I said before, as I said before, violence in this situation didn't need to come to violence. I could just be like, yo, bro, she's not worth it. Go home, whatever, da, da, da, da, da, and squash the situation. But you know, the thing is I've been talking about this in some of my case studies. I think to your point about masculinity, one of the aspects of masculinity we don't talk about enough is our pessimism, right? Like as a man, you have to assume the absolute worst at all times. If you're gonna provide or protect work for them, you have to assume that the stock market is gonna crash.  With that being said, I would advise my son to assume in that situation that it could potentially be life-threatening. And I would also advise him to assume all the ways that it could go left. And after that assumption, then you calculate if this is worth the risk for you. Not for her, but for you because you have a mother that loves you. You have a father that loves you. You have friends, you have a future and you have to be able to make that assessment.  I'm not saying that. I'm saying that it is our right as humans to be able to choose and dictate where we will or where we won't insert ourselves and insert our energy. To your point, it might not be violent whatever the case may be. I'm not jumping into every argument. I'm not jumping into every volunteer opportunity. And that's the only reason.  To a point blank, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's not cowardice, brother, it's not cowardice. I think we have two different definitions, but I got other brothers in the back, man. I don't want you to hog up the mic, but as always, brother, I appreciate you. You're welcome back any time. All right, I'll be out. Absolutely, man.  All right, it's been late. I'm going to do some artwork. All right, brothers. Yeah, be easy. Take care, man. All right, big group. Can I just say one thing? I know you got to bring people. Absolutely, yeah. I always have to push this out, man. Look, I really care about black men. But I've got a brother right now who's doing 50 to life off a manslaughter car, off of some hyperbasket and bolster. And every time I see it's just getting into situations, it's not good for us. And people need to say that more often than this, protect all people, because they ain't nobody protecting you.  That's it. We all we got. That's it.  So all this shibbler nonsense, who does that serve? That doesn't serve you. I'll end. I'm sorry. Appreciate you, brother. Amanda, what's going on, man? I'm good. Can I be heard? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Talk to me. What are your thoughts on all this? Well, I'm going to try to get into some light, but thank you for being patient. One thing I wanted to say to you is big ups to you because I recognize when you first started. So I've been tracking you from the beginning since the Kevin Samuel's era. And one of the things you say oftentimes is that you're non-American. So you're non-FBA. And for me as an individual to you, I salute the fact that you're able to recognize that we as foundational black Americans, we put in a lot of work in order to get freedoms that non-Americans are able to benefit from. I also want to say big ups to you because you're one of the individuals that have been able to recognize that for the most part, this gender war is basically a side-up from white supremacy. And I do recognize you're trying to put it into it. I do recognize you're trying to put it into it. So I want to say big ups to you about that. Appreciate it. As far as, am I clear enough to be seen? As far as this particular incident, the biggest problem that I see that black America is having as far as its men are concerned are your betas, your simps, your cuffs, your weaker males in general because over the course of time, they switch names. But the behavior is the same in which they protect the pussy at all costs. And for the most part, the female can do anything if one of those men are around. I mean, the psychology is endless. I don't want to really get into the psychology. I just want to tell you the behavior of the men. Until you can actually distinguish those men, extinguish them, you really can't do nothing because only a prime can be the prime. The women are not running up on men. The women are not fighting men. The women are not getting it out of the mud. The women don't have a war against men, monally mono, they're using weaker men to acquire resources in order to control men. So the issue that we're having here is weaker men are going to war on behalf of the women. This female, nobody runs up in anybody's face and we know that as men, we don't even run up in other men's faces. We understand as men and we're men. So that means nine times out of 10, we can get busy with each other and it doesn't mean we go to the death. It just means we know how to hang. But we don't even run up in each other's faces. So the question is, why do the females believe they have the right to run up in strangers' faces and do whatever shenanigans that they do? Well, they have that mindset because they've been coddled. They've been spoiled. Same thing would happen in Chicago.  She didn't take the gun. If it was one of us as a male, we would have took the gun from our dude and said, no, I got this. And then we would have put the work in, mono a mono, but the female didn't put the work in. She commissioned a male to do the work on her behalf. And I'm saying as far as this female is concerned, I'm not saying she deserves a break. Don't get me, don't let my words confuse the audience. I'm not saying she deserves a break, but you have to ask the question, where did it start? How did this start? Sometimes our behaviors are preventative. Sometimes the conditions are preventative.  Then our forefathers, our grandfathers, I'm a Gen X. So it was our grandfather's, not my father. My father's a boomer.  They ran for the hills, they were liberal. But my grandfather's generation, they put in that work, which is a great generation and a silent generation. They were the men that went out there and tried to protect black women at all costs for that particular time in history. But since the 60s, women have been out of pocket since the 60s with the sexual liberation and the end of the black liberation armies and the black Panther nation. So that statement, that mantra, protect black women at all costs comes from that. It does not come from if she's in the face of a drug dealer. It does not come into play if she's in the face and she's acting irate just because she can't get her way. But the women are also trying to integrate black women are also trying to integrate into the system of white supremacy and they're using the dead bodies of black men to do it. That female should not have been there doing whatever she's doing.  So in the country of Somalia, they do not reference themselves as black. They're Muslim or Islamic or whatever, but they're not black.  Everybody knows this. So for her to say black men do not protect, that's a shot, that's a shot to black American men. And I'm just, I don't wanna ramble, but I'm only simply trying to explain.  Even if the female is wrong, they can't see it any other way. And we have to move forward. We have to move forward, whether these people understand what we're saying or not, because the men are tired. The men are tired of being cannon fodder. The men are tired of being sacrificed so the women can stay in charge in power. The men are tired of divorces. The men are tired of child support.  And the only reason why these conversations are going on and on and on and on is, women have weaker men fighting for them.  The weaker men are fighting for them. I'm gonna ask you this question as I close. Which one is more detrimental to an environment? A pooky and a ray-ray or a simp? A simp, absolutely. A simp. The problem with a simp is he can climb, he can climb up the ranks. The simp can get into politics. The simp can change laws on behalf of their mama. Whereas a pooky and a ray-ray, he may put that work in, but he clips his own wings because he's not getting the higher end jobs. Once he clips his wings, he's not getting those jobs where he can hire people, fire people. But that simp can.  We just do family. And like I opened up and I said, I wanna commend you for that because I think you see that. The problem is with a lot of you all is your vocabulary.  And a lot of you all, you're not understanding feminism in itself. I am glad feminism is here because it now lets black American men the true intention of black women.  No, this is the nature of women. They want control. They do not value the things that you value. They want control and they're willing to do anything to get it, including sacrifice their own children, son and daughter, as long as they're in control. And I close on that. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you. Walter, Walter, I'm gonna get your thoughts on this, man. What do you think about the situation and the conversation so far? The situation is I have very little thoughts on it other than the fact that it's definitely put, you know, no man, first of all, one, you know, they say he asked the question, who's more dangerous except for Putin and Ray Ray. But the most dangerous man in existence is an emotional man. An emotional man who can control his emotions. And everybody needs to understand one thing. I'm not defending her or anything. I'm just, no man should ever allow a woman to do what he did to her, regardless of whether she egged him on or not. As a man, you cannot, you cannot allow an individual to push you so far to do that, you know. Absolutely, absolutely. You just can't. Unless she's threatening your life, you can't do that as a man. And this is, this goes not just to women. This is just you in general, because one thing we tend to forget in this world they're legal ramifications to everything you do. Right? Even something's gonna happen, positive or something's gonna happen negative. So if he does that, he's caught. Now it's an assault charge, you know. It could have been attempted murder. However they choose to tackle the pressing charges. So now you have to protect yourself as a man, which is why you cannot allow yourself to be pushed to the point of doing that.  You don't know their relationship.  So in a sense, A, you need to protect yourself as a man because at the end of the day, like I think, I don't know if it was ranch, but somebody said it earlier, your obligation to protect starts with your family, it stands to your external family and friends after that. If they are close, you know, when it comes to protecting women, that's your close friend's wife, if you guys are together and have that kind of relationship, close friends, things of that nature. People that came with you into some kind of venue, facility or whatever they're in your care at that point, especially if you're the one who invited them. And after that, that's it, right? You have no relation, in fact, that it puts you still legally in jeopardy because you will send yourself into a situation that you had no business being in and when they ask what happened and you say, well, I stepped in cause it is, now they have actual right to say, you just assaulted this person, right? You assaulted somebody.  Nobody came to you and asked you a question about anything. She, at the time, she might have said, y'all gonna help me? You know what I'm saying? She ain't asked for no help. The man came up through a brick at her or hit her with a brick or whatever. And that was that, as far as I know, I don't know if she, I don't know if she said, hey, somebody help me, blah, blah, she's in distress. Still, even in essence, they can still charge you for something based on that. This is coming from the son of a lawyer who's been giving me all this stuff to protect me from these situations.  You have to protect yourself in order so you can protect the most important people in your life. Because if you're in jail, you lay down a lot of people, a lot of people, especially if you wanna call yourselves one of the good ones. Yeah. Todd, Todd, hop in there, man. What are your thoughts on this? What's going on? And you're? Yes, sir. What's going on? First of all, I'd like to say peace to everybody. You know what I'm saying? I'm an adult. I don't know if you're actually telling that, but I am.   First of all, if you were a man or a woman, you know what I'm saying?  Like that's just part of being a human. With old girls' particular case, like, I don't know all the details, you know, I wasn't there, we wasn't there and all that kind of stuff. But I do know in America, depending on where you at, depending on what's going on. Depending on, depending on, depending on, depending on. These things are a case by case basis, period. That's the way I feel about it. Because, you know, if you were just watching some person, they ain't gotta be this girl with the brick or whatever, be whatever.   And then she gets smacked or she, or he gets smacked with a brick. All right, that's all on you. You know what I'm saying?  You see what I'm saying? But like, other than that, I don't know what was it? She could have just, he could have just found out he got a SDV. You don't know nothing. So I ain't, no, I ain't volunteering. No, it's, I, as a man, am too saddle of a person. And I only have to assume that anybody else, not just man, is also faith. You see what I'm saying? So you have to take these things on the case where I face Basie's theory.  Like, I don't have anybody going on that. You know what I'm saying? You mess around and step and try to break up something.  Cause you done rock business. You see what I'm saying? So like, you, it's a taste-by-taste place. And I'm, and I'm, and I'm talking from the standpoint of really how I'm going to do that, man. You see what I'm saying? So, no, ain't no, ain't no tapes out here. You can be a, you wear a tape you want to, then tape, that tape will turn the wings real quick. You'll get nailed to a cross, right where you stand, trying to be a hero. Yeah. And that's not where I'm at with it. Absolutely, absolutely, man.  Right. You know, a lot of the order that we have established as a species is based on certain rules, certain expectations. And unfortunately, I think one of the things that, you know, is affecting women these days is they're getting a lot of the benefits without any of the responsibility. Right, they're getting the goodies without the cost. And I think it's warped their idea of how they can move and what they can do.  And we keep pushing these narratives and it's not until something like this happens that they're like, where are the men? You know, but when it was time to have that conversation about what our expectations are of them, while we also are willing to give whatever their expectations are of us, a lot of times women aren't having those conversations in earnest. And I think that's the lesson here. And I think the lesson for young dudes is don't be anybody superhero unless they are under your jurisdiction. If this is a family member, if this is a friend, if this is somebody that you can vouch for their character, if this is somebody who is in your circle, absolutely, you should be willing to put some things on the line, whether you're life or otherwise. But if it's just some random chick, nah, bro, because it's not gonna play out the way you think it is. Yo, where was the system? Can I interject on that one, though? Can I interject on that one, though? Yeah, go ahead. Okay, my bad, because even then, there is, it's a layered approach and like I said, it's a case by case basis. Now, thinking about, you used the same thinking that you just said, but imagine you from Nigeria, correct? Yeah. Okay, so like, I'll speak for me as an Ados person. If I was in Nigeria or in Kenya someplace and I've seen like a Chinese person whooping on some black person, whatever reason in me, I don't think I'd be able to just walk past that without saying something or doing something. So that's the other side of that. Sure, sure, sure. That same thing, you see what I'm saying? And so that's what I'm saying, like it's a case by case basis because you don't necessarily, you don't see what's happening, and then you don't either step in. And like I said in the comments before I had him up here, anytime you're planning on stepping in on anything, you need to prepare to be fatal.   So because you know, hey, like I said, the way I think I have to assume that the other person can get exactly like me. Sure. You see what I'm saying? So like I said, it's a case by case basis and it depends upon the motion or the historical constitution of the person. Oh boy, that was just out here, a CP. I was really wanting to be out here when he was out here just to kind of put some of that stuff that he was talking about. However, that is constitution. That's his, you know, his opinion. And to be fair, the only issue I had with what he was saying is when he framed it as he's a better man for being willing to step in than another man not being willing to step in, that's the only thing I have an issue with. You know what I mean? Like stepping in or not stepping in isn't the problem. It's when you're holding men to this expectation with none of the payoff, right?  And you get nothing if you do, right? But I appreciate you, brother. Afro, what did you have to say real quick? No, I was just saying, like it's just interesting that all the time we've been hearing, at least during my entire lifetime, that they don't need us. And I'm thinking, where was the sisterhood? Like there were no other women. Why aren't they gang up like the Avengers and just jump on this dude? That the same thing they expect of us, why couldn't 10 of them get together and rush this dude? Why is that not the call? Because again, we've been hearing for decades.  We don't do nothing. We don't protect nothing. We don't build nothing. We don't have nothing. So why are we expected to do anything at this point?  That's a good point. And I thought about that myself because apparently she's a lesbian.   Apparently she's a lesbian and she made a video about women protect and women provide better than men in the whole nine. So again, I think the bigger picture here is, you know, you don't get the benefits without the responsibility. That's been my big message. She's a lesbian. She's a lesbian. She's out here calling for men.  So it's like women should have stepped in and protected her, but she understands that's not how that works. But in an emotional speech, you know, it's not logic doesn't necessarily prevail. But I'm gonna go around the room, man. Brothers, I'm gonna give y'all the last word. I'm gonna start with you, Wrench. So we can close this thing on out. Yes. So first of all, I appreciate you having the show, man. I appreciate you having me up. Salute to the brothers, tribute it to the panel and salute to the brothers in the chat and the good sisters in the chat. One of the sisters said something and I had to scroll up to see as she said, so no one should protect anyone who is an immediate family or your partner, got it. That's exactly what type of time we on. If you're not on the program, then don't ask for the protection.  Allyship with, right? So if you have the rainbow coalition, don't ask for black men to protect. Go and ask them if you are, if you've replaced your significant other with big daddy government, go and ask for them.  There was a video that came out. It came out of Plano, Texas, of some young, some underage women inside of a bowling alley got kicked out by two security guards when as they were kind of forcing them out of the building, he maced one of them before they got in the car. I wanted everybody to go back and listen to the first thing they said when he maced, right? Outside of that, my last piece, and then I let my plane here to the brothers who heard this message, whether it's on the restream or the ones who were listening in the chat. You have enough work ahead of you to go out here and be productive and compete. Just to be able to do that, that is heavy lifting. There are productive brothers. The productive brothers amongst us want to see you be successful. We are on one knee with our hands cupped, waiting on you to walk up to put your feet in it so that we can help lift you up because that is what is gonna benefit us. As a culture, as a society, as a group, right? In order for you to be able to get to that next level and be able to do the same thing and keep doing it over and over and over again, it's gonna take men, challenging men's ideas, iron sharpening iron, and burning down this house that we have now because this is not gonna work. It's not gonna work. It's a porous foundation for a house of cards. And I let my plane there. Absolutely, brother. Walter, what are your final thoughts, brother? You mute it. Always remember, as men, you can't achieve your goals, accomplish anything if somebody got you in chains. You gotta protect yourself. You have to, in order to be able to protect the people around you and the things that you find most important. So that's the first thing. Definitely need to understand also that a lot of these, she says she's a lesbian, she fake lesbian. She gonna come around and say, men don't protect, she faking it. Anyway, people, you gotta understand a lot of these, a lot of these, most of the women who echo a lot of these things are echoing because they don't wanna be exercised from the group. And they really don't mean what they're saying. And a lot of times they, when push comes to shove, they react before they actually listen to a lot of things.  So, and also, and I live in Louisiana and my view of relationships is not really is what a lot of other men have seen because I've seen a lot of marriages, a lot of successful marriages by black people of this generation. So I know it's a possible thing, it's real, but it's obvious to see that there's a lot of pain and hurt out there and people are using it, people are doing whatever they can to protect themselves. Fathers protecting their daughters, telling them about, telling them how to protect themselves from men, mothers are doing the same thing. It's all becoming a big jumble thing of, you know, stay away from these men are this way and they're gonna come after you like this so you gotta do XYZ to protect yourself and they're not gonna do it, don't trust them, don't even stay on your own too. It's a lot of messaging that we've done over the years that have caused this rift and I believe right now we need to come together, understand what the issues are and then just attack them so that we don't, so that our grandchildren don't have to deal with this and then we become a community of black people and hopefully across the diaspora. Absolutely, brother. After this one, it's coming, brother.   Absolutely brother, absolutely, thank you so much, I appreciate you coming up as always, have a good week man, let me close this thing out. All right y'all, we have reached the end of this broadcast, I appreciate each and every one of you guys tuning in, I hope you guys enjoy the conversation, I hope you guys got something from it, but I think the best way to button it up is like, despite the fact that I'm a pan-Africanist, I'm a community first-minded individual, I don't think on a person-to-person level, anybody's entitled to anything from anybody else. Outside of the people that you're responsible for, right?  If you assess the situation and it's not the right situation for you to step in, or this is not the right person to step in for, then you are not a coward for choosing to mind your business, because the reality of the world is not clean. The good guys and the bad guys aren't always clear, so you have to be careful as you move out here, but again, I appreciate each and every one of y'all. We got about $127 in Super Chat today. Thank y'all so much. I appreciate these sound effects. I don't know if y'all have any idea what you're talking about. But yeah, let's see, I'm working on the TSI Johnson video. That should be dropping here soon. Shout out to my brother, Wrench, for the 50. That was Super Chat, so thanks for having the conversation, girl, Wrench, for supporting Black male media. Appreciate you, my brother. That's what it's about. 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