n get it like this okay but before uh letting you go uh so i flew from Finland and i did a little bit of research and i learned that you canadian people also are mad about hockey well so are we so i know that you guys know that's how finnish nestling team uh jersey looks like so i wanted to make it easier for you to find me so i'm gonna wear this tonight so if you want to talk about this research or my talk tomorrow you can just find this guy okay thank you have a good night thank you thank you the story am i okay thank you the story thank you secure works uh you're gonna also give a workshop uh tomorrow so if you want to hear more uh from him be there um tomorrow morning i think right yeah good uh so we're gonna take a short break and we're gonna be back with uh with a special panel with the about the history of norsek from the founders there's gonna be a a lot of fun stories uh so yeah uh and reminder there's gonna be food uh so uh everyone's gonna be fed there's a party after there's drinks and there's gonna be a band on that stage i'm standing on right now uh at eight at eight p.m so uh please come it'll be a lot of fun this this this all right uh now that olivier uh he's hidden behind the stage uh so this is special this is for the 10th year anniversary of norsek uh olivier bilado which most of you probably know uh he has uh given uh a qna on red teaming last year without even being the moderator so uh you'll be able to entertain you for for one hour uh please give up for the president of norsek elvie bilado thanks hey hey can we put the the photos all right okay so i have the honor of doing this 10 year anniversary but it is also a burden so this is an old scoreboard scoreboard i guess uh it is also a burden uh because i'm here to host something that i didn't create okay and something that many people contributed to many people spearheaded and i know now how much work this represents um so we will uh basically feature today in a talk show style laid back the guests uh not the guests the creators of norsek and we'll have them you know one by one and add to the to the party and we will go through uh three eras of norsek okay by presidencies um and uh yeah i would like to to showcase their work but we will also take questions from the audience uh if if you want um we are we will be allowed to uh speak some french so bear with us uh we will try to keep it english uh you know for accessibility reasons because because we're an international event we have people flying over all the place uh to come here and we would like to have more and more of that if we want to be the biggest ctf in the world uh so uh so we will try to keep as much english as possible but i want my my guests to know that if something's funnier in french feel free to say so all right i will uh invite up on the stage right now amandine uh gagnon et bah who is our vp engagement uh amandine are you here simon you need to find amandine we uh we were uh they were briefed they know they should be here but apparently it didn't work out so we'll skip her and have emil first and then we'll we'll switch back to amandine so is emil in the house yeah sit right here man so emil is our uh vice president of the competition which is our weird way of saying ctf because ctf translates badly in french um so emil uh how long have you been involved with nord sec and what was your path to nord sec so i think the first time i i participated at the nord sec was somewhere in 2014 i think uh as a participant i really i was really bad and i i i was very very bad and essentially after like one day of full ctf and trying to do to find any flags i think i found like one flag in the in the rules um and then i decided to get drunk in the rules you found the rules flag yep okay and and this is the path to vice president uh we miss you interesting all right um any do you have any specific anecdote you would like to share uh tour about the ctf like what's your what's the moment that comes to mind right now for you about the cdf uh i think that my my best moment for nord sec it's a and it's a tribute to simon which was the vp uh ctf before me uh is that like i remember coming in and just like seeing the the room and everything happening at nord sec and just i think simon you know this guy is coming to my table and be like hey do you want some bread i don't like a what and like it was kind of a very fun experience to see like that nord sec was not only just a ctf that you you stay behind your computer and and do like you know find the crypto 500 and the whatever is it was more physical there was things happening and yeah it's a full immersive experience it was a ctf but it was also a bakery is what you're saying yes yes so for those who don't know we made fresh bread for the year that the theme was addison bakery which is a play on the addis ashley addison ashley madison leak uh i that's for saturday man keep it clean um yeah so uh interesting because it smelled the bread the whole year and they were doing like it was pierre davis sourdough and they were doing this in large bins it was a bit crazy operation um i have a one last question for you emil what are your thoughts and this is serious what are your thoughts on elitism versus accessible challenges like what how do you see the balance it's a good question i think um like elitism is not like a term i i like a lot it's it's nice to have art challenges i like to see people having difficult like spending a lot of time on difficult challenges and and have a no a good nose bleed on a reverse and everything i think like that's super important it's part of nord sec's dna to have like very difficult challenges but i think accessibility is the path to that makes like people like me that sucks at ctf be like interested and involved and become more part of the community so we do try to have the more the more and more challenges that are accessible to like more beginner that are more beginner friendly i think overall the ctf we wanted to evolve in a way where you you could like if you're really here for the elite and like competition and be super serious we wanted to be i mean we want we want you to be able to say that you're here for fun and that we're able to like give you more hints or like coach you a little more about ctfs and everything without really enduring the real competition that's happening behind it interesting insightful thank you um uh emil i will ask you to step aside and we'll have amand zinn gagnon ebar who will take your seat no no you're going to move from one place like in a talk show man have you ever watched tv that's how like they rotate in uh during the ad unfortunately hey amand zinn thank you for being here hey i'm i laid because i know that someone like they run after me like you're asked i'll leave yes for you on stage but i i'm too busy for for being here so it's okay i'll take i'll take 15 minutes of your time five minute talking um no so amand zinn you are our vice president of engagement and outreach am i yes okay um you uh so you uh okay the question is how does one go from a phd in psychology to be becoming a full-time pentester oscp certified all while maintaining clinic clinical practice with you i don't know man i don't even know if i sleep no i sleep very well i think that uh the the secret for this is uh just being a a good time manager you know and prioritize things that you want to do for example uh north sec this year uh and the year before uh i don't have time to be here but i'm here anyway so i missed some shift at the dpeg for being here so uh kids uh are not my priority today but uh yeah so i think just setting priority is my best i think i have a adhd too so i'm just like always doing something and i don't know i'm passionate about what i do but you've been with us for two years yeah which means that the adhd adhd you don't know psychology man i don't i don't adhd yes sorry so it it's still like you're still with us after two years so it means that this community is doing something right for you is it i don't know no no absolutely i love uh being part of the community i have a uh an extent background in being involved in what i do and uh i love the i like that we can speak in french a little bit a little bit but yeah bilingual good uh i like that uh the opening of the community in infosec i like the fact that i meet with people from various horizons and not who have been uh all this you know we have winter courses comparatively in the academic environment and that's what i appreciate the most uh i'm back here i know like i never participated before as a participant before becoming responsible so last year maybe it didn't seem like it but i didn't know absolutely not what i was doing i was telling the people what to do while i was trusting them but maybe i'm fucked up and there's a photo of you very confident there in the slide deck at the end there absolutely so it was a discovery extraordinary i meet people uh i'm social about uh 14 days a year and it's during north sec after that i'm going to my land but it's the moment where i really give myself a lot to meet people and connect with with with our friends what yes thank you beautiful answer yeah so there now my last question how do we do to make other little amandine what is it what do you recommend to the young people who want to get involved like which way to take to make amandine you need a dvp in boulangerie why am i not surprised it's like the parkour the most yeah uh how to do i don't know me i i it's going to be cheesy what i'm going to say but like i i i don't recommend it you know because i encourage a lot when i talk about performance and people are like oh my god you do a lot of things and you but for me it's an equilibrium of life to be at the same time involved in psychology because i switch from domain all the time and i need to change my mind so when i'm here i don't think about my children from the dpg i don't think about the clinical psychology and the opposite is also true when i'm in psychology i don't think about becoming an admin domain we hear it it's not my priorities are here there are for who is to rest it's to do gardening it's to play chess it's to do the bike there are for who is to play video games and all all the things all right you know but for me like it's two careers that i like i run in parallel and then it's my way to find my life team there right it's good it's good how to do to make amandine i don't know you will ask my biological parents there i have no idea well in fact i hope that your story will inspire others and they will have their own dp their own way but i think it's an inspiration for the future generation and it's important honestly i recommend it to everyone there i'm going to have a priority for new york there apply for new york if you please but apply also elsewhere in the community that you are three years old that you are no matter what part of the initiatives because it's paying it's paying tabarouette there for the number of connections that you make meetings that you can do capacity that you can develop by doing that make new discoveries it takes time we are tired we don't sleep but it's it's it's very the recognition is there i'm too tired to speak in english i'm sorry to all of you who speak english but we don't understand what with absolutely but thank you very much i would invite you step on a side thank you and i'm going to call suhira suhira can you come up on stage please suhira is a former ctf participant that is now part of the outreach team oh microphone someone's sitting on a microphone don't we have four microphones are we missing a microphone no i think you are sitting on the we're out ah yeah here we go all right thank you sariva so yeah i was saying former ctf participant now outreach team so you're a season threat researcher you presented earlier today gave workshops in earlier years and are part of the outreach teams i found on linkedin that you did a bachelor's degree in bc it's a loaded question um what convinced you to move to montreal and how did you discover nord sec what convinced me smokemate smoke me oh interesting oh well it was actually like i got a job opportunity i could work as a contractor at google and so i made the move and i was like why why not east east coast you know it's just cold french what could go wrong and i'm still here somehow yes well that's that's an amazing story yeah we should clap for that um so in 2018 nord sec had a sudden death the two first places of the ctf had accumulated the same number of points so first place and second place were equal we had to make a decision on who wins pierre mark burrow created a reverse engineering challenge at the last minute and you're on stage with zack devaux who's here from goats facing another team doing live reverse engineering like how can you go through that amount of pressure you don't yeah you just don't i think if zack was not there i would probably be more frozen it was it was fun it was it was weird i don't think i'll ever do that again but uh yeah it was fun it was fun to win the point you did win yes um and it was my first ctf so yeah for us like for us organizers this is a key moment in nord sec history that we wish we would have filmed it's like something unbelievable happened we were wondering what to do we had we thrown ideas and at some point one of the team thought that they got it but then pierre mark verified and it was not okay but you guys kept going on and then you got the actual real flag i was like oh my god there's so much pressure and i'm in the audience so congrats on that uh do you remember any of it or is just like a blur i think it was a linux l file as rc foci uh zack had a radari open i didn't do anything i just stared i might have a side anecdote about okay apparently not true i blanked out that memory so yeah we did realize afterward after after the sudden that happened and everything and everybody might remember this for the people that were involved but we did realize that one of the teams that were involved in the sudden that did not submit the rules flag and with that flag the losing team didn't submit the rules flag like it would have been over before it even started amazing all right last question for you well actually you know i'm always doing like double questions or whatnot but what would you describe is the biggest challenge working on the outreach team uh i i i guess um biggest challenge uh maybe seeing a lot more i don't know like women type run workshops i guess i'm really bad at this um yet uh i think that's a bit more it'd be challenging and it's also i find uh i don't know if it's only like in montreal i find there's not as many women that you see attending workshops and it's trying to like get them involved in it and just creating a space for that but to see more women uh yeah it's difficult yeah all right but good job trying to achieve the difficult so uh we i realized i miscalculated we have a chair problem that i'm gonna smoothly handle like this i'm gonna call on stage serge olivier paquette who will take my chair and we have another microphone we have another microphone we don't even can we or get one for the next 15 minutes but for now we'll just borrow one from uh from emil from the overexposed people all right thank you so serge maybe we'll keep it like that we have another chair but we'll see you want to sit on my lap oh yeah we could do that strong enough so serge don't read the questions so serge uh what were the challenges of your tenure you delivered 2022 and 2021 as president yes after a couple of years as logistics there's one big thing that happened i don't know if people remember when people were coughing and or staying home that was quite a challenge as a president keeping people together motivating them to come back and spend some time when everyone was in depression that was something yeah well you handled that very well i'm uncomfortable sorry um uh too close you uh no but you handled that very well but people yeah of course don't want to remember covid and i had other questions about it so uh can you tell us something about each panelist here with us a story or something you've learned from them hmm he loves the snowboard so we're in the team of being on something that glides and um i have no clue about so we're i know very little about so we were unfortunately so uh she doesn't mind the cold of montreal and loves smoked meat all right uh okay last questions for the bunch uh you have a math background you work in software engineering data science machine learning i was told that you had imposter syndrome on your way to become president can you talk about it i still do but i learned to cope with it and i learned that everybody does also even those that don't look like they do and it's something to celebrate it's something everybody so the reason they go on stage is because they became the best fucking in the world in their domain of course you don't know as much as them so it's perfectly fine to not understand what the hell they're talking about just listen grasp what you can and be the best in the in your domain at some point in life and so that's it and that's what i i became i came to enjoy that feeling of being surrounded by people that are so much better at me at so many things and it's just something to celebrate and then the one of the reason north sec is beautiful yeah good job all right so i'll ask everyone to leave the stage and then we'll go with this the next era we're going from recent years towards all this years and i'm taking a lot of time i realized so i'll have to pick up the pace i would like florencia to come up on stage florencia hello hello so very exposed what weird okay it's weird yeah i mean come on you did stage time before yeah but but not in a chair i don't know it's weird anyway then are you the one who organized the the panels format the i never sat in them though it's completely different so now you feel like now i'm suddenly i'm sorry all right florencia needs no introduction she's been running the conference for the last four five years and started the year after pierre david started it so pierre david just did like a napkin project and then florencia delivered an actual event conference so you were tasked with this big and vague request of making a generalist cyber security event tied to a ctf and making it diverse so the question is how did you approach this am just trying a lot of things and seeing what sticks i think the the trouble with being a generalist conference is no matter like you you're just you're constantly kind of trying to catch up with yourself you're like oh we got a lot of applications from people in reversing now we got a chase after blue team people um so a lot of that just a lot of chasing uh i guess running after people that we think are interesting watching uh conference talks from other conferences and and doing our best especially to try to um look for diverse speakers which is not that easy and then you know do you just have to hope that they actually will apply when you ask them to great answer um i would uh i would like you we kind of have an opportunity here to describe the call for paper process in a laid-back fashion we never actually did a blog post about it or whatever because it's it's a lot of little things right and and you ask anyone on the committee how it works and they will say slightly different things so i would like to have your view of our of north sex cfb process like how does it work so we have two or at times we've had three rounds of submissions and that the reason for the the two rounds is that we try to get hype when we announce the first round of speakers and also because we do want to kind of target the the later rounds so as an example yeah you know we get a lot of applicants who are red teamers then in the second round we want to kind of balance that out and we want to kind of make that all work um but the way it works is we have this open source tool that we use and people submit their applications which includes you know whatever they want to talk about um the full description any materials that are related to what they're proposing and um bio etc and then we have a committee of i want to say it's like six ish people um it varies from year to year uh that will go through and vote on you know how they feel about the proposal so we do that uh it's not fully blinded at this point but uh we we do not see each other's votes so everyone votes and then we uh afterwards we we kind of look at all of um how everyone voted and we discuss the ones that are uh that have high votes or medium votes and then debate and then kind of pick and then try to make it all work so we use Trello to kind of arrange it all and see if if the the total program makes sense is that with that cover it that's perfect i'm gonna clip this and we're gonna put it on our website or youtube or whatever it's so much less time than writing blackpost great great answer i thank you flow i'll ask you to sit on the side leave the mic and we'll uh call on stage Eric boivin Eric boivin scenario lead is the title i think you are attributed yeah game master scenario design or something like that so what is the job of a scenario lead except yaml it's mostly yaml but yes um the job is to take the the technical challenges of every challenge designer and then to wrap it up into the entire north sec team because you know this is an event that is it's not only the ctf there's the conference there's all the the swag that you see the t-shirts there the badges the team is everywhere in north sec so my job is to first come up with an idea then work with the challenge designers to make up that idea to create like an entire universe based on their challenges so it's it's all about taking their challenges building a universe around it and then wrap it it up so that when participants go into the ctf they can see a real experience they can see something that is cohesive that is not just oh this is an sql injection this is a reverse challenge it's a world that you are part of and you're building a part of that story so something like that do people even realize half of that or uh i would say maybe not i know there's a lot of people that are very competitive and all of these messages they don't care it's i this is noise we don't care give me the url and i'll go to it but when you're building the signature of an image the the team in north sec is everything like the audio that you hear the visuals that you see the t-shirts that volunteers so in the end that creates an event that is interesting so this is why i think even if the participants don't understand the big picture they can see all and the color that we're putting into it and i find that absolutely fascinating all right i'm gonna ask a trick question which theme was your favorite so far uh oh this is yeah they each year they are my babies some babies are more troublesome to put into life uh some babies they do what do you know about that yeah some of them are very challenging but i would say my the one i'm the the proudest of is north sectoria where we did an entire ctf about medieval cyber security it was so wild um i've never seen like cyberpunk is easy it's part of our culture us in info sec but medieval cyber security that doesn't exist so yeah i would say the opportunity that i have working in that event and creating crazy stuff like that is absolutely amazing so i thank you all for for that i you just mentioned it and i have this song in my head yeah yeah a little whistle and uh yeah all right um about this year's theme any surprises left or hints uh to be honest um this year's team was supposed to be last year's team so um we were not sure last year what we would do with north sec so last year's theme was pretty much build up quickly so that because we we found out that oh yeah we can hold an uh in person event so it was really last minute so what you're seeing this weekend is put yourself back in may 2022 what was the life that we were seeing as a society coming out of covid so this is the kind of ambience i had in mind back then but now this year with all that change all the things that that have happened things like the democrat characterization of ai that's something big that has happened this year so you will see little hints about that that couldn't have happened last year so this is why using current events into the theme is something that i absolutely love thank you no so no surprise no hand no reveal no like i want insider juicy um we didn't rehearse this clearly leak something man oh peer pressure okay um i i will leak uh he will leak so you know um there's there's a lot of iconography that is very weird very illuminati very mystical well keep that in mind in everything that we've written in the end there's this mystical power structure that is controlling everything challenge designers might not see it but you will feel the wearness and uh yeah i can i can't wait to talk about you all about what we've created challenges this year are especially good and the integration with the team this year is absolutely great so it's an honor to showcase that this week excellent so please if you may please step aside i'm gonna invite danny to come up on stage we were speaking about sound and music earlier and so danny is a sound designer and dj for north sec which is uh something i think we should promote more our art the connection we are trying and we're not good at it but the connection we're trying to have with art and sound and music um so danny you did a live dj livestream on twitch for north sec 2020 at the peak of the pandemic when we were in lockdown how was this experience like from your garage i remember like drinking in front of my screen with like being on discord with the other buddies and listening to the music and having fun what a weird weird time that was um and i was just shocked by the amount of fun that i had uh because we had all been in our holes and then the idea of like we can't do north sec and i see flow freaking out and we can't do north sec and then it's like no we can we can pull it off we can pull it off digitally but having been here before and seen the vibe in this room when people are doing the ctf to imagine the ctf without that vibe was heartbreaking but then to be able to contribute in some way to create some kind of unifying thing where like where people are listening to the same music and they're kind of sharing that same spot um honestly i like i felt it and it was it was a joyful thing to do were you like uh looking at the chat at the same time or yeah okay so in between tracks uh adding yes so um uh uh before doing so and after doing so you also designed the sound atmosphere yeah so i might i don't recall exactly but i remember like it started in 2019 because we needed royalty free music for our our pauses and our stream and then the severity high in 2020 we're already planning at a dj so i think you did some sound for us and i am am i wrong saying the medieval is your stuff so this is your stuff and we might have a surprise for this year um uh and uh so what is the process of creating a sound atmosphere well you get really really weird prompts like medieval hold music or like you know you all heard the leak today the leak was it's going to feel weird so you know getting getting a prompt like that is honestly just like the most like it's my idea of fun is being like okay we need basically filler music but you know here's a twist or two and i think it it infuses art into the tech five that we have here and honestly like you know you can get you can get hold music royalty free for free on the internet very easily but you could also like if you really need a name tag you know you can get paper from the dollar store and write your names on it but like north sec clearly feels the need to have these badges the blinking stuff exactly and so i just feel like that's kind of the the spirit of this event is kind of like let's go over the top let's bring it together uh let's contribute our own favorite kind of weird and uh little hold music is how i get to the little how i get to feel important and sit on this if i may there's a there's a saying that i really like um uh restriction breeds creativity is that when you're giving like limits this is when the mind can go and fly so this is why working with with the set and working with her like the the prom for this year was so weird and the delivery was amazing i can't wait for you all to hear how i think it worked today i think it played today played at some point yeah yeah this is for the conference right when we have pauses did it play today do you guys know oh it played in room b today so in track track b room track 2 room b we call it many different names sal debal is the website's name um yeah i would like i made some room i would like to invite the president of that era or representing that era pierre david on stage can can someone all right all right i'm gonna sit there you can do like surge but i'm getting older so there's much less material to work with nah i'm not doing that all right i'm gonna be right here yeah don't don't move all right by the way i mean this is very minimalist cue card um so you were president during 2019 and 2020 10 years yeah uh what were the challenges of your presidency i don't know something that ends with 19 oh another covid president yeah i can count that's a good story so um how how this happened right so remember everybody put yourself back in your shoes early march 2020 right early march this is you know hearing about things back in happening in asia you know whatever it's all like a flu right it's all like you know we've seen that and so um we're having an event on site in person everything is lined up everything's got to be awesome we got badges ordered like you know a thousand of these a thousand five hundred of these like 70 grand right all in and uh you know i'm writing with uh with my company we actually have an outing we don't do skiing you know in uh in charlevois right and so um we're writing there and uh you know mr françois lego the prime minister of cobalt announces that well you know this is on us right things are happening and so we you can't have any gathering indoors more than 250 people right live when we're freaking writing you know on the highway like on the 20 and then so we stop at a place and um this is where you gotta make tough decisions right because if you make the wrong decision you're losing the badges and stuff like that right you're losing 70 grand right you're there's a company in china that is supposed to be doing some things for you and you've already paid some amount of money and so um you know we had lunch i don't even remember what i ate what happened where and what restaurant we had lunch it had lots of screens that's all i remember because like lego was on all these screens and uh it was probably an ash no it was an ashton i don't they don't have lots of screens but you know whatever it is and so yeah we had to pull the plug on the badges that meaning we we were pulling the plug on the event right meaning we were pulling the plug on the physical happening of the event right uh march 11th right so like two days before everything was like cobec was cancelled basically like the entirety of the province was like indoors you know fuck you and that's it so um yeah so this is a live stream by the way yeah yeah so well it's you know there's a you know there's an llem on google stuff that is going to cancel this out they're very good and so um uh yeah so i had to i had to i had to call call the the batch folks and say well you know how much money do we do we owe this this company all right let's just cancel all that and so pull the plug pull the badges and call an emergency meeting while i was in a in a chalet you know in in like uh uh and call the emergency meeting and initially honestly initially my my decision was you know that as a president you got to make the responsible choice right you got to be the adult in the room right you we've got crazy ideas crazy concepts that you have to make the right choice and so as a president my initial decision was like oh well we'll just cancel it right it'll be easier for everyone but i as a president you don't um in a volunteer organization you don't rule by authority right that's a trick you learn over time is you know none of the people here that are volunteering are paid you don't have any authority so you have your idea but you're gonna you know have to see you know feel the room the first initial feeling of the room of the entire organizing committee at that time was we'll just do it online we'll just do it online i was like all right let's do it online you know let's not cancel it let's uh let's be the the first you know march march 12th you know let's do it online and so the entire team switched to put it online it was it was it was crazy you know hats and countless emails we received a lot of um i wouldn't call this you know not threats but you know people weren't too happy about us march 12th remember that march 12th shipping it online you know people were like ah you're you know you're making this uh you know what it's not you know it's you're way too intense it's just a flu you know it's gonna by you know by by may it's all gonna be done right it's gonna be done and over with you know and so yeah you know hence i 2020 uh we still made the right decision so i that was that's the story so uh had to call them you know pull the plug on i don't know 70 80 grand got a got a got a message from mauser you know we had like i don't know 20 grand of stuff ordered there are you sure you want to call you know it's uh you know we uh what what's happening you know you want to you want to cancel a 20 grand order what's the problem you know in covid so yeah that was quite a story sorry i took a lot of time to uh yeah by the way time's up for you but that's it this is what people were remember remember you for yeah no no pialla is behind many many interesting initiatives but anyway i didn't have anything prepared and we're gonna move to the next era the last era because food is ready and it's waiting so four more guests and then we're we're good um i'm gonna call up on stage genlieuve la jeunesse i see her in the back genlieuve is our cfp on the cfp and has been for a long time uh yeah a long time so she's part of the ogs not ogs but almost like the earliest of the of the crew more in the stale people in the cfp now i don't mean that i really don't mean that but i think it's great that we're getting new people is here for me yeah and you also uh launched or spearheaded the the community room which uh we're still unsure about calling community room and villages but yeah so about this i want to say you know i'm in the face of it right now but i martin right there at the back right in the alley hello dude you know it's it's a common shared vision by a lot of people within the organization community it certainly isn't like a one-person thing at all and you know in jean-philippe covp this year thank you because otherwise none of this would be there obviously but so uh yeah i guess we went through the intro um the so can you like there's there's this thing it's a new object and now we have the opportunity to explain it to everyone right with more than a couple of words uh how would you talk about the community room how would you describe it so do any conference you go you'll get the opportunity to experiment things you've never tried right but what we wanted to do was to do a little bit more than this right so it's cool you go to this room and you get to learn soldering if you've never done it or something like this yay yay but but it's that yay it's that moment where you're also learning you know what's in your environment oh i have this no there's this maker space in my community and i could go there or someone else is passionate about climate change and how it intersects with the info second so it's having that space to build those connections and not consider you know you're not in a talk so you know nosebleed brain activity it's not just about having a break it's about learning to engage and make this like you know you're here you're passionate about info sec you're passionate about technology it's a whole of life thing for you well can we enrich that can we connect that to other things and we and can we connect that to things that are a little bit lateral right if we were people were you know in computer science and the very you know straightforward thing about it we would go one way but being creative helps us in our work it helps us see things a little bit differently so you need to kind of enrich that with a bunch of things that may or may not seem like they belong because this is how you find out where you as an individual belong and also how you can include more people into this because otherwise you know we'll we'll keep doing things the same way and we'll repeat the same mistakes so it's kind of meta like it you know how you learn a thing that isn't what you learn easily helps you learn better things and more things and that's that space in essence and also you know I really really really like puzzles so you know puzzles everywhere life is a CTF anyway yeah so how would you like I think a CFP is very well formatted and people understand what the contract is you know you do a pitch basically and then it's rated and you get accepted but so the process obviously for a community room needs to be more handled how like let's say someone has an idea and is unsure if it's a good idea or not what would you recommend them do yeah so that's a a thing we're looking to build right the more we do community room the more people know what it is and then you're like okay I love sailing and I'd love to explain how this works and now you know this will become more real as years go by I'd say the number one thing is just throw yourself in the pool you don't need to be a group of people you can be one person two people and come in with an idea and it we won't like when you when you submit to the CFP we judge you right we want this to be watertight we want this to be perfect for community room or if you're thinking about something that could work or may not or you would do it but it's expensive and you don't have the resources to do it or you would do it but you know someone would be far better than you at this but you just want for it to exist then you know talk to us and the thing is CFP is great for talks because the talk you know you sit down you write it out and you're good but for these types of things that can take a longer time right you're building this out well maybe we need to talk in the summer so what I'd say is you know you're all on this court I'm then key with many eyes at the end on this court like reach out let's just chat you know there's there's if it's a bad idea I will tell you my I spend my days having bad ideas I have a lot of experience in them so don't don't worry about it you won't face me I have worse ideas than you do I'm sure so that's what I would say yeah so there will be as every year there's a CFP period but don't don't have to stop you you know and if CFP is closed and your idea just came talk to us it's you know we're in a huge space and even if we were to go elsewhere I don't see us going into a smaller thing I haven't seen Nordzak get smaller at all so so don't be too concerned about that what I would be concerned about is staying silent right if you went to the room today and we're like oh I wish I wish they had this like come to us this is you know there's a hacker spirit break things you know avoid the warranty do all those things there's also the maker spirit like get it done get get it done take it do it no one's gonna stop you social engineer your way into a better world I'm I'm kidding but I mean like like pick it up for real because we only have so many hands and you know we will truly love your implication into this yeah oh no I'm seeing my daughter coming there's another thing I want to say also like it's not just for what's in front of you it's also to articulate things like maybe you know I'm crying at the temples like if there's things you use to see in hacker cons and you no longer see it's culture we need to keep our cultural life so bring it yep that's a great great answer I'm gonna I'm gonna switch question last minute because I was going for the other one but I'll take this one as a parent oh no see what I'm going with a successful professional career involved in Nordsegg at the vice president's level um with limited time like how do you manage your time and advice for people who are inspired by by this club mate no uh no no the the real answer the real answer is like it you do something every day I and it's the same for my learning I have you know if it's going to be 15 minutes I look out my week I'm like oh this is gonna be tough but you create those habits and you stick to it um there's no you know there's no sugarcoating it there's times in the year where it's like it is a lot but it feeds you and I guarantee you if you're focusing on the mundane stuff that you feel you have to get done all the time it just drags you down but if you focus on the things that feed you and build you up yeah they're difficult like but but doing the difficult stuff is what makes it worthwhile right and if you're a parent you know it like there's a ton of the difficult stuff you would never question that it's worthwhile at the end of the day hello kid I'm not getting woken up at 5 a.m. to we're boarding yay no but I mean like the difficult stuff oftentimes ends up matching up with the stuff that is super worthwhile and go for it you know like I'm not I don't think there's anything exceptional and the things I do other than I'm exceptionally driven to get them done and it defeats me another great answer thank you so I'm going to have our next guest who needs no introduction Lauren Desonnier hi hello so Lauren Desonnier is a challenge designer obviously a long time challenge designer are you you're what's the first year you design challenges the very actually the hacker so before yeah minus one yes okay okay so you you didn't play in any north sec you were already a challenge designer correct all right so 10 year 11 years challenge designer um how many challenges do you think you have delivered in total excluding trivia's excluding trivia's I figure perhaps let's say six or seven per year so I'd say roughly 77 all right that's good at an average of of points let's say at three points average that would be yeah that would be your your like your career your north sec career is like a third of a north a regular north sec so the funny thing is and that's amazing about north sec is the very first year we were very few there was like Charles Frédéric was doing some and I was doing some but you know individually we did a pretty big part of the CTF because we were like five so if one of us messed up it was 20% of the CTF no for real nowadays we're like 60 so it's amazing how much this is more reliable how much we can rely on one another and that's basically built on this community so I am very thankful that I am a minute minute tiny part of north sec now since that there's so many great challenge designers around um what are your best stories around challenges anything comes up to mind there were some amazing challenges when I had well the personal one I had was uh I had a key grinding challenge and people brought dremels and stuff and what there was like flying sparks all over the security guy was super worried how come people were doing that was pretty fun there was a fabled uh bag of chips if you recall that there was a vibrating sack of chips that you had to um decode the word around that was really nice there were some really cool challenges but those two come to mind actually um I wanted to elaborate elaborate on your obsession about captures all right so yes I really really like captures I feel they're clever they're a good way to um bring different uh abstract challenges and you can talk about crypto about race conditions about logic flaws and nobody really cares about capture in real life but I am an enthusiast some would say fanatic and I really like to bring in 10 years I've done 14 capture challenges so yeah I'm a really really like captures that's a hint for preparation if I ever heard one the funny thing is one year I keep uh repeating that story the very first year we had you had to solve 500 capture by hand and the lannity s four thing or a team did it by hand like they had they solved it two people it took them their whole weekend because if you missed it once you had to start over and we gave them a python programming book as a gift that's another one another great story um how would you describe the approach to designing a great challenge so I'm really thinking about this because it's super challenging because once when you know the challenge when you know the solution is obvious so the rule now that we try is what to do should be very obvious the how can be very hard but never a child in front of a challenge you should you should ask yourself I have no idea what to do for example uh in past years I had a web app challenge that was like one function called search it was the very only input in the page so anyone trying to have a web page would say gee I have one input I wonder which one should it be right so the idea is for it to make it as simple as possible on the what to do and under how there were people having zero days in cryptography like somehow were very very difficult some challenges were pretty insane thank you all right I would like you to step aside all right for the next uh yeah shift left I guess from our perspective I would like to invite David Goulet on the stage or as we affectionately call him so David is part of the infrastructure team now he's a nortsec contributor since inception former VP of the CTF uh oh yeah yeah yeah exactly that's the thing so before nortsec hack us existed it's a different beast but it had it shared a lot of uh of common values and uh people uh so David was a founder I think of the hack us um okay but that's a tangent um is okay my first question I mean I didn't do a bio I'm sorry okay is it true that you are the one who introduced the scooters uh yeah I think at some point I was really sick of walking uh over and over again and yeah we we did uh I did ask for for the for the small scooters and actually Kevin which was the our you know with us at that time went to buy three of them and they were 40 pound maximum scooter a very small green and we still have one working 10 years later so why are they necessary like for people who don't build nortsec oh well we we I mean we've seen the size of these rooms we go over and over again and we oh we forgot the cutter we forgot the we forgot this this gizmo blah blah blah we run wires not only that but uh and these years the late the the last couple years uh almost everything is wi-fi but before that we had to run you know hundreds of wires uh and so the scooters became you know instrumental in our livelihood right so it's not just for to roam around looking cool right it's not that the hacker movie style longboard and shit uh no not at all not at all has a practical side to it it is true story um so can you talk about hack us like what what is it for people who don't know so the long story short uh 12 30 it was in 2009 uh we uh a couple of friends of mine uh I don't think they're in the room right now but we went to this uh contest it was uh created by the crime the sound the research the crystal there you go sound the research informatics of the montreal uh and they created this contest and the entire point of this contest I think was to bring people from different universities in college and uh exposed them to cybersecurity and at the end there were this bunch of private corporation trying to hire us and uh I think that was the whole idea so we had some fun but not really so we ended up talking on the way back because we were studying at sherbrook an inverse of sherbrook which is an hour and uh almost two hours from here and uh we did like maybe we could do something better than this maybe we could have like more fun introduce some new concept existing concept like the acro jeopardy that you know it's been existing in defcon for a long time and ccc uh and so we were three at that time and we started um discussing few couple weeks later we created hack us which is hack us is very clever thing you know hack us you get it okay but also hack universe of sherbrook so uh us uh you and us and um we started this and the first edition was true in 2010 with 67 people and I was actually in the cafeteria of the the university and actually it was pretty fun it was indeed I remember we were playing with amish security back then having lots of fun so what motivates you to keep giving a considerable amount of time to know it's like after 11 years plus hack us plus the one year off what it means like it's 15 years career contributing not for as a player but as a giver a builder of worlds for others uh I mean it's pretty fun a lot of people came before here that says that you know they meet people and then it just actually it's very true we meet a lot of people it's extremely fun the logistics of it but there's one thing that is uh very very cool for me is and I used to do that I don't do that anymore but it was the challenge designer and through eight months of work you do this challenge it comes to one it becomes the thing that you polish that you love that you ate and everything and and for two days people go at it and that is the most amazing experience ever because then you have so much fun looking at people sweating enjoying and and so that is a big driver for me and for a lot of challenge designers so I encourage everyone here that wants to challenge to actually join the team but apart from that why am I still doing this and not the challenge uh I think it's just fun yeah it's fun excellent so it's time now to bring the last guest the OG president Gabrielle Tremblay come up on stage please all right Gabrielle you were president I didn't realize just how long your tenure was before I wrote this it's PTSD every time we speak you were president from 2013 to 2018 um to maintain and create an event like this is a great accomplishment so what is north sex original idea idea it's not an idea but it's cool because David is there um short story long which is usually the inverse for for the people we were in there back in the days we used to love doing cyber security but we felt a bit alone so we had this competition in Sherbrooke called hack us where we would go we would compete and we would really succeeded it just to say and then the people that were competing with us we were building team and the team that was organizing back then the the the competition we decided to get together and build a team to do international cdf to go and do the defcon course to go do ictf and mo a lot of us met during these days um but there was it's funny because we had a we had a good success back then but we had a problem we had difficulties recruiting new people because back then the amount of elite level security pentester was kind of limited and um there was this this competition in Sherbrooke that kind of it did this time it was in Sherbrooke they had problem financing themselves is it yeah it's fine that's what happened um so we were looking for ways to recruit more people and we thought like that will be nice if we build something in Montreal like just a cdf just to train people in what we were doing it's it's as stupid as that so we decided to build a competition that would be as hard as the shit we were doing uh on the international scene which was like nose bleeding level back then um so slowly but surely we built that competition that was i remember one of the the first goal we gave ourselves was you shouldn't be able to do all the flags like it should be so hard that if you managed to do a flag or two you had a good competition um so it was it was the basic idea because it was out of a need that was the need um so i went to the old people that were doing hack us which stopped back then and i said why don't we move it to montreal why don't we rename it why don't we rebuild the way it's done why don't we just change the way it's financed and this is how literally north sex came to be as a way to become better at what we were doing yeah great answer and so from there how did you decide to grow from a cdf to a week long event spanning training conference and cdf what i called today north sex festival so uh fun fact being poor when you make an event sucks like you have to make everything happen and the first year we had five k as a budget that was that was the budget of the five k yeah that was five five thousand dollars uh but the room was free at ets so so fair enough that was solved um so we ran at least i think one year and i i i told to myself and the guys i said and it was only guys back then sorry about that we weren't that good um so i said if we want to grow we need money and what's the best way to make money let's do a conference because and that was it that the idea was that the conference probably will be able to fund the cdf and believe it worked like we were recruited pierre david back then and we told him like you want to make a conference because we need money he said like i can do that and that's how it came to be and a couple of years later we had we were here now it was amazing but we were still really poor like we weren't able to do like crazy stuff like like you see these days so we went to see i think it was you and we told you we need money you want to do trainings and that's all training came to be out of necessity so training were meant to fund the conference so the conference could fund the competition yeah that worked but that's pretty much how it came to be so this is how the even grow out of necessity to fund the cdf so you talk yeah go ahead clap clap clap so i have like i guess so we're short on time it's my fault um but i have two angles here we can take so you'll pick the one you like we talked you talked about money already so i don't know how much you want to talk about budgeting but i know that we had in the early days we had some pretty guerrilla meeting about budget and it's like cut this for that or more of that less of that and we were like arguing over stuff we cut or not um do you want to talk about that or do you want to get into the anecdotes uh no i'm gonna i'm gonna go about budget all right no anecdotes all right anecdotes anecdotes all right so uh i have like um i mean i have stuff that will just reveal the whole anecdote you want to you want to talk about that yes but don't name anyone go ahead all right so so the fun thing is you look at this event and you look at all the people they're sitting there they look responsible because they've aged quite a lot since we've started but the beginning were kind of rough like think about like the people that angst in ctf have too much beer fight in bars like these these peoples so we're building an event and i would i would say like because it's kind of going and i don't know but uh it's it's brilliant people do shitty shits like this is what they do um so we did the first uh first year of nortsak and we get to the hotel first night we had an epic acrogypardy like i think that would be illegal today because that's how things were back then and not to do any apology but it was we didn't do what we were doing so it and then the some ways and and then we get a call from the hotel the next morning if someone stole all our ap's wireless access point someone stole stole all of the wireless antennas in the hotel and they're like we have them on camera so either they bring them back or we're gonna call the cops and we're like oh i know who is this we know we were there like the night would never end so these people were you know it's we were part of it we didn't steal it but it was borrowed the people the people which we we worked with were not it was not as serious as it is today so that was a a good thing i think we returned the ap nobody got arrested that was a good thing i guess these are pictures of the first hacker jeopardy in uh in ets so first hacker jeopardy of nortsak but we had prior hacker jeopardy's in uh at hack us this initiative was started at hack us we're always on the old pictures because it was like 10 of us that's why you want another one or ah yeah sure did i throw this away already nope uh yeah that one i don't know about that one you can say in french there are 15 oh yes i think i think this one is better okay go ahead and it's the last one okay no i won't go i go i will go with budgeting now anyways um ask me a different question oh ask me i threw it on the floor oh i know i know i'll do um let's go i could i could propose one which would be a good except for what you're going to answer your own question yes okay go ahead as olivier was about to ask me we were having this discussion in my head um he said what's the hardest thing about leaving nortsak because it's gonna happen to everyone sitting on that stage at some point some people here did some people are planning to it and it's interesting because i had to leave nortsak at some point like like somebody mentioned babies at some point it was edgy that's cool but uh but yeah um one of the thing i i found the hardest thing was to leave nortsak because it's what i did and as i i remember um it's you are never as good in fact the organization is always as good as you are so at some point you become the limitation of the event so the event you're seeing today could have couldn't have existed with me because i i headed up to a point where what i knew as a president as as the guy that ran the show wasn't i i sucked with diversity i i wasn't good in many things so i found people that were better than me to take away but even today after i left i don't know 2018 even today i want to come back i want to help and i always tell myself nana don't don't it's like a children i never had children you help at the bar what i am drink i am uh i'm just a clerk that's what i do but yeah at some point when you create something like nortsak if you want it to become as good as that you need to let it go you need to let it grow on it on itself you need to give it everything it can but you you already gave enough so that's a thank you for asking olivia so that if you ever create something like that let it go at some point it was a great question i know you're so good all right so we're we're running late uh food is already uh over there martin do you want to come up and talk about the logistics so we're gonna turn into party mode if you have like we cannot we cannot summarize 11 years in in just one hour and then 15 minutes so uh if you want to talk about what happened you've seen 12 people 13 including me tonight go and talk to them they would love to talk about nortsak and answer your questions so with that martin talk to us about the party all right bonsoir tout le monde moi je voulais le micro agape pour avoir la même voie que lui sur le système de son ça ça marche pas pareil écoutez on va avoir besoin d'à peu près 40 minutes peut-être une heure pour changer la salle ici faut enlever toutes les chaises tant c'est ça sur le côté je voulais vous demander votre coup de main mais j'ai réalisé que toutes les chaises sont terrapées ensemble donc il va falloir aller il va falloir chercher des exactos mais ceux qui veulent rester encore cinq minutes pour aider à faire des piles de cinq pis c'est ça sur le côté je vais aller chercher ce qu'il faut uh aller manger on a à peu près une heure avant qu'il y a une première partie un dj qui va faire une petite montée en puissance puis après ça on va avoir un show one more time vers 20h30 peut-être 20h45 le dépendement de de comment savoir avec le planning fait que le traiter est arrivé la nourriture est servie on veut pas nourriture dans la salle ici mais on vous a mis plus de table cocktail de l'autre côté donc puis une petite nouveauté aussi bien il y a des il y a un menu de cocktail au bar donc n'hésitez pas à essayer ce qu'on a préparé pour vous donc bonne fin de soirée tout le monde puis j'ai l'air de vous voir au spectacle merci


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provide the reports to like a client for example you might give them a bundle for example at the end of the month at the end of the quarters at the end of the year you might have different bundles that you make basically on month end quarter end and year end year end likely being the most important bundle because in the united states even small businesses are going to have to deal with the taxes at that point in time so you want to make sure that you got everything you need to help them out at that time and for the rest of the year you're probably trying to just make them feel comfortable that she'll be there at at the tax time and ready to ready to roll so then how can we give the reports to people once we group all the reports we could email them to them however the email you got to make sure that email is secure and you want to make sure that that you might not want multiple attachments on the email because you might be sending at least five to ten reports on a monthly basis if you want to group your reports together you can print them and then you can give them to someone physically but that's less and less common these days you might be working online with people also noting with the email we could zip the files as a pdf and attachment them which is a little bit cleaner than attaching 10 individual files to an email we could export it to a pdf file allowing us to zip it and provide it to somebody possibly or we can put it on a cloud drive like google cloud and or one drive or something like that or microsoft one drive and whatnot so though that's a useful tool these days that's another method that we can clearly put into practice we could excel use excel to give it to somebody but usually excel is not the thing we present with but might be an intermediary tool that we use to customize our reports and then and then possibly use it also to put all the reports on one page or one report so that once again we can provide it with one report and then we have the manage report that we talked about in a prior presentation which is quickbooks little internal tool helping us to process the reports so let's take a look at those internally if i go to the first tab and i go down on the reports on the left hand side then we could see that we had the manage reports over here so this one we saw in a prior presentation helps us to put all the reports into one nice little nice little format so that we could put it on one pdf that's a lot cleaner that's a nice tool it's not a perfect tool but it's cleaner it looks nicer than attaching like 10 emails or 10 attachments to one email right no matter what method we use though we probably are going to end up customizing some reports is what i would suggest doing for external reports and internal reports possibly putting them under the category of month end reports quarter end reports year end reports so that you can make that process at the end of those periods which are usually your busiest time as easy as possible you might want to number them so that when you print them out they'll be in some kind of order so let's do that now i'm going to right click on this tab up top and duplicate it again so that i can open up another report which is going to be the summary report i'm just going to do the same reports we did before basically so i'll do them fairly quickly i'm on the reports left hand side standard balance sheet i'm going to open up the summary reports and then i'll do my standard customization i'm going to bring it back to 2023 oh one oh one two three oh hold on a second oh one oh one two three tab 12 three one two three tab running it to refreshing it scrolling up customizing the report i want negative numbers bracketed red our no pennies on the headers and footer get rid of the date time report basis don't need that save it there it is at lmosa looks good let's go ahead and customize or save the customization memorizing it summary balance sheet that's a good name i'm going to put a number one in front of it because i want to be able to list my reports in uh in orchard and then i'm also going to add a group and i'm just going to put this as month uh end or you might say if they were the end of the year right year year end reports add the group there it is in the drop down that's the one save it save it and then i'll go back to my first tab and then in the uh custom reports refresh the screen and it should show up which is what we have uh in the custom area we have the year end report and now the group it didn't put the little number one in it so i'm going to edit it again why didn't i said number one number one uh hold on a second and then save it and close it okay so there we are now let's do the next one let's go to the standard balance sheet let's say we're going to do instead of just doing the standard balance sheet i'll make a vertical analysis one since i have a a basic balance sheet before if i just add the vertical that might be something worth doing so i'm going to say uh let's make a percent of the column and we'll make this one a bit more fancy and so now we've got the vertical analysis on the right i might say this is a balance sheet with a vertical analysis is there spell check in here okay i'm going to assume that's spelled right and then i'll copy this name and then i'm going to customize it same customization get rid of the pennies negative numbers bracketed red footers we want no time date report basis get out of here run it and then i'm going to save customization the name's going to be that looks good balance sheet vertical analysis number two report and then it's going to go into our year in reports saving it first tab run into refreshing let's see if it puts it where it should go there should be two in there it looks now it's in order mui b to the n b in and then so now let's do another one with a horizontal analysis possibly i'll use this same report and i'll get rid of the percent of column and then i'm going to say that instead we want let's run it instead we want we want let's just do for the end of december so i'm going to go from uh 120123 and then i'm going to take the previous period dollar change percent change and i'm going to call this the balance sheet not vertical but horizontal horizontal analysis because it's going in the horizontal this time save it let's go ahead and save customization and i'm just going to call this now number three horizontal is spelled wrong horizontal analysis i'm going to leave it wrong in the report i apologize if that annoys you because anybody uh but i'm on number three this is not the point of the present spelling is not the point of the presentation although we do want to have it spelled nice because that again will make the people think that you're not sophisticated when you can't spell i've been called unsophisticated many a time for my lack of spelling uh and other things but any case whatever uh well i'm i'm trying here so let's keep it we've got the three now so if we have those three obviously we can go on for some time doing more comparative reports we can do a report by month and and so on and so forth we might do a report by quarter and so on the point is once we have a large amount of reports we want we're going to have them lined up in here note also you're not just going to have the balance sheet accounts you're going to have income statement accounts as well and possibly other reports that you would want but you would want variants of the balance sheet and the income statement and just with the balance sheet and the income statement you can imagine you can easily get over 10 reports pretty quickly if you start thinking about these comparative type reports we'll talk about the income statement and possibly other reports and more detail in uh future presentations now that we have it here at the end of each month or at the end of the year in this case every year we can just basically generate these reports in order because we numbered them so how can we generate them well we could use the management report tool or we could export them to excel and do it for further formatting from there and then batch them together in one pdf file or we can save them as a pdf file so let's do that i'm going to close the reports that are currently open and i'm going to imagine that i already have this set up and now it's the end of the year and i'm just going to generate these reports adjust the date save them as a pdf file and then provide them to the client either by email by some kind of one drive or something like that cloud drive uh or or or something like that so let's go in i'm going to uh i unfortunately i can't right click on it like i would like to and open it that way so maybe it would be best to right click and duplicate the tab and then go down to the balance sheet and open up the balance sheet and so i'm going to close up this one and so now i would like to uh export it as a pdf so we have a pdf here now i just want to point out that sometimes you might run into forms that don't have the option to export as a pdf both in this program and in other programs it therefore is useful to have a pdf printer of some kind so i think there's a free one i'm not promoting them or anything i'm not affiliated in any way but i use this cute pdf printer which i think is still free and that means that when you do the printing option you can print it instead of to a physical printer to a pdf printer so in other words this report has the capacity to make a pdf report this way that's great but if we run into reports that don't have that option then if you have a pdf printer you can use the printing option here and then you also have to save as a pdf within here but if you were to print it you could then print this to a pdf printer instead of a physical printer so now it opened it in pdf format and then i'm going to basically if you needed to print it there's my pdf printer right there instead of an actual physical printer and so that is something i think it's useful to have that tool in the event that you need it will also use that pdf printer tool when we get to the integration of it with excel now note that if we were actually physically printing it we could go into the printing options here this also gives you a preview type of page if you needed to adjust it so in here we've got the portrait and the landscape usually the quickbooks default files for the default settings are pretty good to fit everything on one page when we look at financial reports note that they could be quite tedious in that they might be really wide if you look at certain types of reports in which case you don't want to have multiple pages wide of a report you want them you want every line to fit on the page so these settings basically help to do that uh no settings are perfect to kind of fix that because they might lower or lessen the size of the font for example so if you go from one report to the other you've got different font sizes which is kind of ugly but it's not as bad as basically having reports that don't have like if i had the descriptions over here and the numbers were on the second page that would be really bad right you don't want that so usually the default settings are picking it up right now right now it's you can see it's on port on portrait that makes sense because it fits on portrait we can make it landscape so if it was a very long report then and in width we can change it to landscape and that would be good and then we have the smart page fit i'm going to put it back on portrait smart page fit will help you help it to basically fit on one page and once again the way it does that possibly is possibly changing the font size and whatnot to get it on one page wide is what we're generally looking for if it's two pages long i'm not really concerned with that generally i just want it not to be two pages wide and then we got the repeat page header that means the header on top will will repeat again on the second page then you've got the close you've got the email so you could send it by email from here you could save it as a pdf so this will be a little bit two steps instead of just going straight to the pdf but if you go here you have the capacity to do these little changes over here uh similar to the printing settings and then you can print it and when you print it it opens it up basically as a pdf and at that time once again you can print it or download it from this section so i'm going to close this back out i'm going to close this back out so i also if you hit the drop down and just export it to a pdf then it'll go directly to the pdf well it's basically the same thing it takes you to the same basically page and then we can save it as a pdf again so i can save it as a pdf and it goes to my downloads and typically that's downloads in google now and what i'm going to do is drag it into my folder so here's my folder i put it into quickbooks online and on the desktop opening that up i'm going to put it into quickbooks navigation because that's kind of the part of the course or the course that we're looking at and then i'm just going to open that back up again and say pull that in pull it in drag it in get over here and then i'm going to hit the drop down and extra large so there's our balance sheet uh summary i still want to name it with a number one so i'm going to right click rename i want the number one in front of it because i want them to be in order by number not by alphabetical order even within my folder here because that will make it easier for me to group them once they're here so i'm going to close that out let's let's go back to the first tab i'm going to duplicate it again duplicate the tab drag it to the right this will be the second report that we want let's open up the vertical analysis and then i would just need to change the range but it's already good because we're in the same period at this time and then i have my options of sending it out let's go ahead and export to a pdf again and then if i save as a pdf it'll do the download and then i'm just going to drag it into my folder going to drag it into my folder boom and then we'll change the name on that one i'm going to right click and put a two in front of it and say this is going to be number two renamed and so it's in the order that i want let's do it again ultra vase another time one more time back to the tab to the left right click duplicate the tab dragging it to the right opening up the three the balance sheet and we don't need to change the range horizontal analysis let's hit the drop down boom don't hit it too hard though don't break it don't break it export to a pdf and then we're going to go ahead and save it or save to pdf and let's put that in our folder as well dragging it into the folder and so now we have them in our folder so there's only three reports let's go ahead and rename this one so i can put a three next to it and so now they're in order that i want them to be in because i've numbered them so even if i was to attach them to an email at this point in time i can at least attach them in an ordered way so that they can see which ones i think should be open first second third and so on and so forth but normally if i give it to an email someone as an email there might be more than three reports so it would be nice if i zipped the reports at least so that would be one method another method we can do is put it on our trusty cloud drive google cloud one drive microsoft one drive cloud drop box or something like that as long as it's of course a secure location that you can share with them then that's another useful tool i would still want to use the numbering system possibly so that they can open each file individually and see them kind of in the order of presentation that you might want to put them in uh if i was to give it to someone by email i would want to zip them possibly so that i can put them into one file that they can download on an email instead of downloading 10 files or in this case three files so i might have another folder and call it like year and reports reports hopefully i spelled that right i'm going to grab these and drag them in there so this folder i cannot generally attach to an email but if i zip it i usually can so if i right click on it and uh and i send it to a zip uh compressed to a zip file so your zip file might look different it might just have a zipper on it but the point is that now once it's in that file you can usually attach it once it's zipped and compressed to an email so when i go into an email and look for that file it will find it when i go into an email and look for this folder it won't allow me to attach the folder but will allow only allow me to go into the folder and then pick up the reports that are inside of that folder so that's the that's the second method that we could use to give it to someone we have them now we can give them the documents physically we can print them we can provide them on a cloud drive and have the reports neatly filed within that cloud drive so they can open up whichever one they want but put them in order we can zip it possibly so we can attach it to an email or whatever other electronic device we're using to send it as long as it is secure but the other two methods that we we looked at over here was that we can use the same method of numbering the reports to put those reports into the manage reports tool which will basically put them all in one pdf file and give a little intro page and in a closing page we looked at that before and the next thing we could do is we could export these reports same process we make the reports but then we export them to excel and if we export them to excel we can actually use the cute pdf printer or whatever pdf printer you want to take all of the tabs if we put them all in tabs in excel we can print all of the tabs at one time that has some advantages one you can put them all on one pdf file which you can also do with this tool but two with excel you can also do more editing so if you want to do a little bit more editing on the reports possibly just a little some little touches that would be easy like changing the font on the titles or something or changing some colors that you want on the title or in the reports then you can just do a little bit more touching up on excel you have to do it every time you export it can't save the exporting in excel generally but that might be worth doing so we'll see that method in a future presentation