The FW Fitch Company presents Dick Powell as Private Investigator Richard Rogue in Rogue's gallery.   The FW Fitch Company makers of Fitch's dandruff remover shampoo and ideal hair tonic presents Dick Powell as Private Investigator Richard Rogue. In Rogue's gallery. Rogue speaking, there is something about being happy that I like. And I couldn't have been any happier than I was that night if somebody had been tickling me with a feather. I had a date with Betty Callahan and the way I feel about Betty hasn't been covered by a word yet. But it's a very dandy way to feel and I was reveling in it as we sat there in the club Cuba drinking our after dinner coffee and grinning at each other. I was quite annoyed when a gentleman without rage dignity lurched over, drew up a chair and made himself unwelcome at our table. Oh, that you are Richard Rogue, the investigator. That's right.  I just want to tell you, Rogue, that I consider your way of making a living despicable. Oh, thank you very much. No, Richard, don't start a scene.  You wouldn't like to have me call the captain and have you dragged away, would you? Oh, no, no. I have a few things to say before I leave, Rogue. I understand that my wife has retained your services to spy on me and sneak around after me. Sit down, Richard. He's been drinking. Oh, okay, honey. Look, mister, would you please go away?  Go away. Scan. Go away. Now, Rogue, look. You know me and I know what you're doing here. I just want to tell you, Rogue, that my wife means a great deal to me. I don't even know your wife. I don't care anything about your private life, as long as you lead it someplace away from this table. Going to lie about it, huh?  Okay, okay. Manuel. Oh, Manuel. Yes, mister Rogue. Would you take this creep away before I see whether those vitamin pills I've been taking really work? Take him away, will you? Of course. Yelling for help, huh, Rogue? Yellow, huh? Well, I'll show you. Oh, here, mister Rogue. Let's go with me. I'll kill him. They're sneaking right up. Come on, come on, Betty. Let's get out of here before I lose my temper and nail that guy. I'd never seen him before. He looked like a nice little man, but he didn't look like he could poke his way out of a mosquito net. As we got a cab, I looked at Betty. She was blushing like a June groom, and her little lower lip was pushed out in that cute way, indicated that she was going to tell me just what she thought of me and my profession as soon as she could control herself. Well, she did. It was early, but Betty wanted to go home, so I took her there. Then I went to my apartment. In the hall, I met a woman waiting for me. Beautifully, it turned out woman. Well, capped 35 with a baby face, and a full mouth drooped at the corners. Mister Rogue? Yes, yes. You waiting for me? Yes. Well, how nice. Just a moment. Won't you come in? Thank you. Have a chair. Have we met before? No, I don't believe we have, Mister Rogue. I've always admired you, though. I've always admired your work. Well, thank you. And now, just what is it you wanted to see me about? About my husband. Oh. He's... Oh, he's found a new interest. Yes. Well, uh, well, I suppose you tell me. What's your name, by the way? I'm Mrs. Webb. Mrs. Matt Webb. Webb. Oh, Webb. Oh, well, I'm beginning to see the light. Tell me, uh, has your husband a bad disposition and delusions of grandeur? My husband... Well, he... I, uh, I just met him. He said that you had retained me for some reason which he didn't explain. Why did you tell him that?  Look at this. Uh-huh. Oh, come on over here under the light. Hmm. Bill for a fur coat. $5,000. I want to know who my husband bought that coat for, Mr. Rogue. I'll pay you well for finding out. Well, I'm really sorry, Mrs. Webb, but I don't get mixed up in domestic difficulties. There are plenty of detectives, though, who will take your case. You won't take it? No, I really won't. I'm much too busy. But... Good night, Mrs. Webb. Mr. Rogue, I... I'm sorry, Mrs. Webb. I'm tired. I don't take domestic cases. Uh, thanks for dropping in, but now good night. I have to get some sleep. Good night, Mr. Rogue. Oh, what's the idea of calling me... It's I, Richard. Betty. And it's 10 o'clock. Oh. Oh. Well, hello, Angel. I... I wasn't quite awake, you know. Never mind. I have news for you. Hmm, yeah? Your friend, Matt Webb. Remember him at the club last night? Sure. What about him? Well, he was found dead in his car this morning. Parked in the Hollywood Hills. Shot. No kidding, huh? I just left Lieutenant Urban. He's in charge of the case for homicide. He knows about your argument with Matt Webb last night. Well, he doesn't think I did it, does he? Well, no, but... Oh, there's somebody at the door. How about lunch? Oh, all right. Noon at the derby? Suits me. So long, honey. Keep your shirt on. I'm coming. I'm coming. Oh. Oh, hello, Urban. Come in. Thanks, Rogue. I don't know anything about it. Don't even know the guy. You're talking about Matt Webb, I suppose. Sure. Who else?  How did you know Webb was dead? Did I say he was dead? Pull up a chair. Cigarette? No. What do you know about Webb, Rogue? Nothing. I met him at the club Cuba last night. He wanted to beat my brains out because I was an investigator. Seems he had a strange idea that his wife had retained me to follow him. Okay, Rogue. Talk your brains out. But you can't talk away the fact that Webb is dead and you had a beef with him. Sure, but I don't know anything about this case, Urban. Well, it's early in the morning and while you talk... You were a genius for getting all mixed up in things. You don't know anything about it, haven't you, Rogue? I don't get sore. Okay, I'm not sore. Just because I meet a guy who doesn't like investigators and his wife tries to hire me to find out who he bought a fur coat for and he turns up dead. That dear wife angle is interesting, Rogue. Get dressed. Why? Mrs. Webb didn't mention any fur coat when I went out to see her this morning. She didn't.  Come on, Rogue. We're going to call on her. We'll continue our story in just a moment. First, when you want to drive a nail, you can use the heel of your shoe or some other object, but you get better results with a hammer. So when you want to remove dandruff, you get the best results by using a product made especially for that purpose. Fitch's Dandruff Remover Shampoo. Fitch is the only shampoo made who's guaranteed to remove dandruff is backed by one of the world's largest insurance firms. It removes dandruff effectively and quickly because its special solvent action dissolves the dandruff, both the loose dandruff and the dandruff clinging to the scalp. To get the full benefit of this solvent action, you should always apply Fitch's Dandruff Remover Shampoo to the hair and scalp before adding water. Then apply water only after the shampoo has been massaged thoroughly into the hair and scalp. When you do add water, a fluffy lather forms to cleanse the hair of the dissolved dandruff. Try this method of attaining shining, clean dandruff-free hair. Use Fitch F-I-T-C-H. Fitch's Dandruff Remover Shampoo regularly. Now back to Dick Powell as private investigator Richard Rogue in Rogue's Gallery. It isn't very often that I get tangled up in a case with no more money in it than a busted piggy bank. I operate on the theory that a boy's best friend is a dollar. I didn't know the recently dead Matt Webb from Gungeden, but there I was in Urban's homicide sedan on my way out to play quiz with Mrs. Webb. During the ride, Urban gave me a quick rundown on the events surrounding Matt Webb's murder. Webb was a very wealthy man, you know, Rogue? Big manufacturer, farm machinery. Well, he couldn't have been very smart or else he wouldn't have been parked up in the Hollywood Hills. That's volunteering for a stick-up.  No, I guess she's not quite that young, but what the beauty parlor and the foundation can do to keep her young has been done. Very pretty woman. She looks about 30, probably 35. By the time we get back down to headquarters, we'll know more about her and everything else in the case. I might get it over with. I want to go on my vacation.  So this is the way the other half lives, huh? Must have taken a lot of farm machinery to plop enough bill for this month's atrocity. Well, we're a pair to a million or two. It ain't hey. Now, uh, I'll do the questioning, Rogue. I'm in charge of the case, you know. Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure. I'm just a silent partner. Ring the bell. Thank you, I will. Police, I want to see Mrs. Webb. Oh, come in. Thank you.  She's in here. My name is Fred Gale. I was sales manager for Matt, Mr. Webb. Lieutenant Urban, Homicide. This is Richard Rogue. Oh, glad to know you, Gale. Would you mind telling me why...  Huh? Well, I...  Oh, all right, all right. Uh, right in here, please. Mrs. Webb, these gentlemen from Homicide want to talk with you. How much you talk to me right now? I have nothing more to say. Uh, Mrs. Webb, Richard Rogue here tells me that you called on him last night, attempted to hire him to check on the disposition, the disposition which your husband made of a fur coat. Yes, I did. I didn't tell you about it this morning because I didn't consider it important. Well, uh, Mrs. Webb... Rogue. Hmm? Now, Mrs. Webb, every detail is important in the investigation of a homicide. Whom do you suspect of receiving the coat? Oh, look, Lieutenant, I hate to get into this. Mr. Gale, if you please, this is my affair. Matt Webb was my best friend. If you, Mrs. Webb, had been a little more understanding... This is no time to fight with me. Maybe we could organize this conversation a little bit. You stay out of it, Rogue. This is a murder investigation. Now, listen, all of you... Oh, just a minute, just a minute, Urban. Look, Mrs. Webb, how about telling us a little more about the home life of you and your husband?  Oh, just a minute. Gale, uh, weren't you with Matt Webb at the club Cuba last night? Yes, I had dinner with him there. Then you must have known, uh, who he was with and what he did later. I have no idea what he did later in the evening. I left him a little after eight. At that time, his plans were to go home. At least that was my understanding. Now, maybe you'll feel more like talking a little later, Gale. You can go now. You can get me at the office anytime you want. Okay. Better fix that cold.  Of course he was. That's how he got killed. Who do you think he gave the first court? To his secretary, Helen Damon. He's been in love with her for the last year. She's been making a perfect fool of him. Helen Damon. We'll have a talk with her. Lieutenant Urban dropped me by my office and I took pen and racing form in hand and managed to forget all about killings not made at Hollywood Park until noon. When I left and met Betty Callahan at the Brown Derby.  Richard, I want you to come with me to the jail. I want you to talk with Helen Damon. Web secretary, why? I feel so sorry for her. Those homicide detectives have been grilling her all morning and she's so tired and discouraged. Well, well, well. Does it look like Helen did the job? Well, yes. A man showed up at the police station this morning and he said he saw a girl in a tweed coat with a tuxedo collar run down out of the hills last night and drive away in a Chrysler Coupe, a blue one. Just about the time of Web's murder and in the same locality. And Helen Damon has a coat like that and drives a blue Chrysler Coupe, right? Yes. But Richard, I don't think she did it. Oh, just because she has big brown eyes, I suppose. Look, baby, cops don't make many mistakes. What did they find out about the gun? Well, it was a .38 revolver that Mr. Web kept in his desk at the office. There were no fingerprints on it. It was, uh, it was found in the weeds a little way from where the car was parked.  So why don't you let the police take care of finding the killers? If Helen Damon did it, she'll get the book. If she didn't, she'll be okay. Has she got any alibi for the time of the crime? No, she hasn't. Oh, you have to get down there and talk to her. I promised her you would. Oh, now what business? If you promising anybody that I'll take their case, looks to me like this Helen Damon is as guilty as Engelbach. I don't want to get mixed up in a case like that. I should have known that's the way you'd look at it. Just because she doesn't have much money to pay you. But, baby, that's got nothing to do with it. I have a couple of hundred dollars. I can pay you. I want to see that Helen Damon gets a fair deal of it. Now look, Betty. I'm not going to get mixed up in this case. That's final.  Rogue, you see Helen Damon. I'll give you ten minutes, Rogue. Thanks, Olson. Miss Damon, Betty Callahan, the reporter, told me you were expecting me. I don't see how you can do me any good, Mr. Rogue. They've already decided that I did it. Nothing I can do to convince them. Well, I know about the partial identification. Now, suppose you'd tell me where you were at the time the crime was committed. All right. Last night at nine o'clock, within a few minutes of nine anyway, I got a call from Mr. Webb. I don't think it was Mr. Webb now, but I thought it was then. He asked me to meet him at his office. Said he had some important letters he had to get out at once. Was he in the habit of having to work at nine? No, but it didn't seem unreasonable to me. So I put on my coat and went down to get in my car, which was parked in the parking lot next to my apartment building. Just as I got into the car, he grabbed me from behind and held a cloth over my face. It was chloroform. When I came two, about three hours later, I was in my car. My coat was thrown over me. The car was back in the parking lot, and it had been driven about 15 miles. I know because I had it serviced yesterday, and the service record is on the dash. You live in Hollywood? Yes. Oh, well, that's just about right for a drive to the Hollywood Hills. You wouldn't have trouble convincing a jury with a story like that. Now, look, Helen, I'm your friend. Is that story the truth? Yes, yes, it is, Mr. Rogue. I know you don't believe me. Nobody does. You have the slightest idea what happened between nine o'clock last night and midnight, right? Yes, that's right. There's no way in the world I can prove I'm telling the truth. I couldn't figure out why anybody would do anything like that to me. I got up this morning and went to work. I didn't say anything to anybody because I... You, uh, live alone? Yes. Now, Helen, I want you to be frank with me. Were you, uh, overly friendly with Matt Webb? I liked him and admired him, that's all. Mrs. Webb seems to think it went a little further than that. Oh, no, no, I hardly knew him at all socially. He's taken me to dinner a few times, that's all. Mr. Rogue, do you think you can do anything to help me? I'm not a murderous. Yeah, uh, Tommy, do you know anything about a fur coat? A coat that Matt Webb bought for somebody, not his wife. No, I don't know anything about it. I haven't done anything wrong. Can you get me out of here, Mr. Rogue? I don't know. I don't know, you haven't got much of a case. I'll pay you. I have a little money saved. Oh, skip that, skip that. I'm doing this as a favor to a friend. Are you sure you're on the level with me? I've told you everything I know. I didn't kill him. He was a fine man. When I left Helen Damon, I had a great inquisitiveness about a fur coat. I got in my car and fought all the other crazy California drivers to a standstill trying to park in front of Helen's apartment house. I got her apartment number off the register in the foyer and walked up one flight. The lock was easy pickings. I walked in, closed the door, and... Oh! Oh, I caught it right at the base of the scope. Like a turkey on the first Thanksgiving. My astral body left this world floated up through eternity like a whisper of smoke, only paler. I was so glad to see Cloud Ape, my home away from home, and gladder to see Ugoor, my alter ego. Ugoor was sitting there on a used thunderbolt, his raisin-looking eyes sparkling with glee. Hello, Rokey! Welcome home! You forgot to duck again, huh? Oh, let me sleep. I'm tired. Oh, you better snap out of it, Chiefy. You've got plenty of work to do. Yeah, I know it, but I'll take care of it later. Go away. No, can't, Rokey. You need a talking to. You can't lay down on a job now. Come on, snap out of it.  Betty Callahan got me into this. Her and her hunches. You've got the same hunch, and you know it, Rokey. Oh, now you're reading my mind. Look, Midget. Reading your mind. Look, Chiefy, I am your mind, and I'm telling you to get downstairs. You've got work to do. Later. Now, Rokey. Now stop pushing Ugoor. I'm not well. Over you go. Rokey. Rokey. Snap out of it, Rokey. Oh, hello, hello, hello, Urban. What happened to you? Well, I got hit on the head. Can't you see? What kind of a detective are you? No, take it easy. What were you doing here in Helen Damon's apartment? I wasn't doing anything. I just opened the door and somebody let me have it. What were you looking for up here? Oh, I got a little bit inquisitive. Oh, why? Well, I had to talk with Helen Damon and she didn't know anything about a fur coat. That's funny. That's funny about it. We just got a murder indictment against Helen Damon. Well, that's a long way from conviction. Mm-hmm. And when I was up here this morning, there was no fur coat in that closet. There's a fur coat in that closet now, Rokey. Peculiar, isn't it? We'll return to our story in just a moment. First, every woman can have beautiful hair. So it's a shame for any woman to put up with dull, dandruff-flect hair when she could bring it back to its glorious, natural beauty with regular use of Fitch's Dandruff Remover Shampoo. There are several reasons why Fitch makes an ideal beauty treatment for all colors and textures of hair. For this clear amber-liquid shampoo foams into mountains of rich cleansing lather. And while it's cleansing, Fitch Shampoo is also reconditioning your hair, giving the hair strands more vigor and elasticity and leaving them with a lovely, silky sheen. Then, Fitch's Dandruff Remover Shampoo is completely soluble in water and rinses out easily, leaving no dull film to mar the luster and dancing highlights of your hair. Next time, ask for an economical bottle of Fitch's Dandruff Remover Shampoo at your drug or toilet goods counter. Or have a professional application at your barber or beauty shop. Now back to Dick Powell as private investigator Richard Rogue in Rogue's Gallery. Assorted and unrelated facts are swirling around in my massive intellect like neutrons around an atom. They were just as much explosive in them as I could get them properly under control. Holy Christ, I got away from Urban and decided to drive out for a visit with Mrs. Matt Webb. As I pulled up in the same block with the Webb House, I saw Mrs. Webb get into her car and drive away. I followed her over Coldwater Canyon and out into the valley. When she pulled into the driveway of an early suburban white ranch house, I parked up the street. She went in. I took a look at the mailbox in front of the house. The name on that mailbox was F.R. Gale. I got that old, familiar chill in the region of my solar plexus. I'd locked into something and I knew it. I worked my way around to the rear of the house as quiet as fallen snow. The back door was unlocked. I pushy put it in, float up to the doors between the dining room where I was and the living room where Fred Gale stood talking with Mrs. Matt Webb. Well, Marsha, may I be the first to congratulate you on that performance you gave for Lieutenant Urban and Rogue tonight? You did very well yourself with it. Now, suppose you'd tell me what you're doing out here. Well, I had to see you.  Yeah, I know. But this is the craziest thing you could have done, Marsha. Well, you don't act as though you're very glad to see me. Now, look, Marsha, we've gone to a lot of trouble to cover up the fact that we're friends, haven't we? Friends? You know I love you, Marsha. It's only that so much depends on us being smart just a little while longer. How do you know you weren't followed? You'll have us both in jail for murder. We've been smart so far, why ruin it? They don't suspect us. They have a murder indictment against Helen Damon. Aren't you going to kiss me, Fred? Come here, sweetheart. They kissed and then held it. I reached my gun out of my shoulder holster and redded myself for the pinch, but something held me back. You can call it second sight or luck or anything you like, but I couldn't move my feet. And while I was debating, they broke it up and started talking again. It was a very interesting conversation. Everything's going to be wonderful for us now, isn't it? Sure. You'll just stay away from me a little while until a case is settled. Everybody's forgotten the murder. Darling, we'll always be sure of each other, won't we? Of course. Oh, Fred, I know I'm silly, but I worry. I don't know what I'd do if I ever lost you. I want you to do something for me. Promise me that you will. Okay. I'll do anything for you, Marsha. If you'll only promise you'll be a good girl and get out of here and stay away from me until everything's all right again. We've got to be smart, baby. I'll stay away if you'll just help me. I want you to write a note like this one I've written. Read it. Confession. I alone, unassisted, killed Matt Webb. Signed Marsha Webb. Marsha, this is utter nonsense. If we can't trust each other, now we... No. I want you to write a note like that in your own handwriting and give it to me. And I'll give you my confession and you'll give me yours. Then we know that nothing can ever separate us. You and I.  Say that note up. What if it got into the wrong hands? It won't. Sit down here and write me one like it. Then I'll know that everything's all right. She kissed him then and walked with him over to the desk talking love all the way. She got a pen and some paper. She stood behind him with her arms around his neck as he started to write. I saw her free hand come up with a gun in it. As he finished the note, she placed the gun an inch from his temple and I moved. Gale, duck! Rogue. Yeah. You should be awfully glad to see me, Gale. In about another minute, you'd have been a suicide and your girlfriend here would have been a wealthy widow. Don't believe him. Don't believe him. It's a lie. Oh, skip it, Mrs. Webb. Look, Gale, you see that gun, your lovely collaborator dropped? Marsha. If I hadn't put that slug through her shoulder, she was going to put one through your head, sucker.  He's lying, Freddie. He's lying.  Sit down, Gale. You... Sit down. I'm running the show from here on out and the little lady has a reserve seat in the gas chamber. Well, it didn't take much to convince Gale that Marsha's planned to kill him and leave the gun in his hand as he slumped over the desk. The notes he asked him to write would have sensed his death as remorseful suicide. And Mrs. Webb would have had all of Matt Webb's money and a dead accomplice. She would have been as safe as an odds-on bet that Dick Tracy cats his shoulders. Gale admitted his part in the plot to murder Webb and framed the innocent Helen Damon for the crime. And Gale got away with life. Marsha paid the full charge in the gas chamber. Oh, well, I... I've always said that there should be a little editing done on that old saying.  The last word should be deleted. President Company accepted it, of course, ladies, but...  This is Dick Powell again, ladies and gentlemen. Hope you enjoyed our story tonight. Ray Buffham wrote it. Leith Stevens composed and conducted the music in the Engelbach produced and directed. Be with us again next Sunday, will you? We have a story for you about a summer resort, a lovely girl, and some newspaper clippings about a murder. We call it Cabin on the Lake. Must be a floating cabin. Thanks for listening and now here's Jim Doyle. 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Hello everyone, welcome to this special CUBE Conversation. We're here in Palo Alto, California, the CUBE headquarters. I'm John Furrier, the co-founders looking at Angle Media, co-host of theCUBE. We're here with a fellow cloud influencer, friend of theCUBE, Sarbite Johal, who's always on Twitter. If you check out my Twitter stream, you'll find out we've always got some threads. He's always jumping in the crowd chat. I think was in the leaderboard for our last crowd chat on multi-cloud Kubernetes. Thanks for coming in. Yeah, thank you for having me here. Thanks for coming in. So you're very prolific on Twitter. We love the conversations of getting a lot of energy around some of the narratives that have been flowing around. Obviously helped this week by the big news of IBM acquiring Red Hat for, what was it, 30? What was the number? 34, yeah. $34 billion, huge premium. It's actually changing the game in open source. Some think, some don't. But it brings the question. Cloud obviously is relevant. Gini Rometti, the CEO of IBM, actually now saying cloud is where it's at. 20% have been on the cloud. 80% have not yet moved over there. Trillion dollar market, which we called, actually I called years ago when I wrote my fourth post on Amazon, the trillion dollar baby, I called it. This is real. So apps are moving to the cloud. Value for businesses on the cloud. People are seeing accelerated timelines for shipping software. Software is eating the world. Cloud is eating software. Data is at the center of it. So I want to get your thoughts on this because I know that you've been talking a lot about technical debt, you know, the role developer, cloud migration. The reality is this is not easy. If you're doing cloud native, it's pretty easy if that's all you got, right? So if you're a startup and or built on the cloud, you really got the wind at your back and it's looking really good. If you're not born on the cloud, you're an IT shop that you've been consolidating for years and now told to jump to a competitive advantage. You literally got to make a pivot overnight. Yeah, actually at high level, I think cloud consumption, we can divide into two buckets, right? One is the greenfield, which as you said, it's a slam dunk. All these startups are born in cloud and all these new projects, systems of innovation, what I usually refer to those are born in cloud and they are operated in cloud and at some point they will sort of fade away or die in cloud. But the hard part is the legacy applications sitting in the enterprise, right? So those are the trillion dollar sort of, what IBM folks are talking about. That's a messy problem to tackle. Within that actually, there are some low hanging fruits. Of course, we can move those workloads to the cloud. I usually don't refer the application, the workloads as applications because people are sort of religiously attached to the applications, they feel like it's their babies, right? So I usually say workloads. So some workloads are ripe for the cloud. It's data mining, BI, and also the AI part of it, right? So, but some other workloads, which are not ripe for the cloud right now or they're hard to move or the ERP system, systems of record and systems of engagement or we call CRMs and marketing sort of applications, which are legacy ones. So they're encoded operationalized software frameworks and packages and vendors like Oracle. Yes. They're entrenched. The Oracle SAP, and there's so many other software vendors that have provided tons of software to the data center that is sitting there. And the hard part is that nobody wants to pull the plug on the existing applications. I've seen that time. And again, I've done, my team has done more than a hundred data center audits from EMC and VMware days. We have seen that time. And again, nobody wants to pull the plug on the applications. Because they're running in production. They're running in production. And it's hard to measure the usage of those applications also that's a hard part of the sort of old stack, if you will. So the reality is, this is kind of getting to the heart of what we wanted to talk about, which is vendor hype and market realities. Market reality is can unplug legacy apps overnight, but you got a nice thing called containers and Kubernetes emerging. That's nice. Okay, so check, I love that. But still, the reality is, okay, then who does it? Do I add more complexity? We just had Jerry Chen in a hot startup rock set on. They're trying to reduce the complexity by having a more simple approach. This is a hard architectural challenge. So that's one fundamental thing I want to discuss with you. And then there's the practical nature of saying, assuming you get the architecture right, migrating and operating. Let's take those as separate. Let's talk architecture and we'll talk operating and migrating. Architecturally, what do people do? What are people doing that you're seeing? What do you think is the right architecture for a cloud architects? Because that's booming position. There's more and more cloud architects out there. And the openings for cloud architects is massive. Yeah, I think in architecture, the microservices are on the rise. There's an enabling technologies behind it. It doesn't happen sort of magically overnight. We have had some open source sort of development in that area. The RESTful APIs actually gave the both to the microservices. Now we can easily interoperate between applications, right? So, and our sort of, sorry, I'm blanking out. So our way to divide the compute at the sort of micro chunks from VM virtual machine to the container to the next level is the server less, right? So that is giving birth to the microservices. And the integration technologies are improving at the same time. The problem still lies in the data, which is storage part and the data part, and the network. And the network is closely associated with security. So security and network are two messy parts. They are in the architecture, even in the pure cloud architecture in the Kubernetes world. Those are two sort of hard parts. And Cisco is trying to address the network part. I speak, I spoke to some folks there, what they're doing in that space. They are addressing the network and security part. Sort of deepening. And it's a good time for them to do that because, I mean, you go back and, you know, we covered DevNet Create, which is Susie Wee. She's a rising star at Cisco. Now she's running all of DevNet.  I mean, everything ran the network. Red network was everything. Network dictated what would happen. Then it kind of went through a funk of like now cloud natives, hot and serverless. But now that programmability is hitting the network, because remember, the holy trinity of transformation is compute, storage and networking. Those aren't going away, right? So networking now is seeing some, you know, revitalization because you can program it. You can automate it. You can throw DevOps to it. This is kind of changing the game a little bit. So I'm really intrigued by the whole network piece of it because if you can automate some network with containers and Kubernetes and say service meshes, then it's become programmable. Then you can do the automation. Then it's infrastructure as code. Yeah, exactly. Infrastructure as code has to cover all three of those things. That is true. And another aspect is that we talk about multicloud all the time, which Cisco is focusing on also, like IBM, like VMware, like many other players will talk about multicloud. But problem with the multicloud right now is that you cannot take your security policies from one cloud provider to another and then just say, okay, run there, right? So you can do the compute, like easy containers, right? Or Kubernetes are there. But you can't take the network as is. You can still take the storage, but not storage policies. So the policy-driven computing is still not there. So we need, I think, more innovation in that. I talked to a lot of startups that are jumping around from Azure to Amazon. Everyone comes back to Amazon because they say, I'm not going to name names, but I'll just categorically say what's going on is, when they get to Microsoft and Oracle and IBM, the old kind of guards is they come in, they find that they check the boxes on the literature. Oh, they do this, that and that, but it's really just a lot of reverse proxies. There's a lot of homegrown stuff in there that are making it work and hang together but not purely built from the ground up. Exactly, yeah. So they actually sort of re-bottling the old sort of champagne stuff, like they re-label old stuff and put layers of abstraction on top of it. And that's why we're having those problems with the sort of legacy vendors. So let's get into some of the things I know you're talking about a lot on Twitter. We're engaging on with the community as migration. And so I want to kind of put a context to the question so we can riff together on it. Let's just say that you and I were hired by the CIO of a huge enterprise, financial services, pick your vertical. Hey, start beating John, fix my problems. And they give us the keys to the kingdom, bag of money, whatever it takes, go make it happen. What do we do? What's the first things that we do? Because they got legacy, we know what it looks like. You got the networks, your rack and stack, top of rack switches, you got perimeter based security. We got to go in and kind of level the playing field. What's our strategy? What do we recommend? Yeah, the first thing first, right? So first we need to know the drivers for the migration, right? What is it? Is it the cost cutting? Is it the agility? Is it merger and acquisitions? So what is the main driver? So knowing that actually will help us like divvy up the problem as we divide it up. The next thing, the next best practice is that I always suggest, I've done quite a few migrations, is that do the application portfolio analysis first. You want to find low hanging fruit which can be moved to the cloud first. The main reason behind that is that your people and processes need to ease into using the cloud. I use consumption term a lot actually, I don't know whether you see that. So I'm a big fan of consumption economics. So your people and processes need to adapt like your change control, change management, ITSM, the old stuff still is valid actually. We're giving it a new name, but those problems don't want to go away, right? How you log a ticket, how the sport will react and all that stuff. So it needs to map to the cloud. SLA is another less talked about topic in our circles on Twitter and in our industry partners. Don't talk about it. But that's an interesting part, like what are the SLA's needed for which application and so forth. So first do the application profiling, find low hanging fruit, go slow in the beginning, create the phases like phase one, phase two, phase three, phase four. And it also depends on the number of applications, right? IBM folks were talking about a thousand average number of applications per enterprise. I think it's more than thousand, I've seen it. And just give you up the problem and then another best practice I've learned is migrate as is, do not transform and migrate. Because then if something is not working over there or the performance problem or any latency problem, you will blame it on your new architecture, if you will. Move as is, then transform over there. And if you want me to elaborate a little more on the transformation part, I usually divide transformation into three buckets. Actually, this is what I tell the CIOs and CTOs and CIOs that transformation is of three types. Well, after you move, transformation, first is the infrastructure led transformation. You can do deep platforming and go from Windows Linux and Linux to AIX and all that stuff like you can go from VM to container kind of stuff, right? And the second is the process led transformation, which is the change control, change management, policy-driven computing, if you will. So you create automation there. The third thing is the application where you open the hood of the application and refactor the code and do the web service enablement of your application so that you can weave in the systems of innovation and plug those into the existing application. So you want to open your application, that's the whole idea behind all this transformation is your application are open. So you can bring in the data and take out the data. From your conversations and analysis, how does cloud, once migrations happen, cloud operations, how does that impact traditional network architecture, network security, and application performance? On the network side, actually, how does it... Let me ask you a question. What do you mean by how does it... The old days, you used to provision the land. So I got networks out there, I got a big enterprise, okay, we know how to run the networks. Now I'm moving to the cloud. I'm off-premises, I'm on-premises. Now I'm in the cloud. How do I think about the networks differently? Who's provisioning the subnets? Who's doing the VPNs? Where's the policy, all these policy-based things that we're starting to see at Kubernetes that were traditionally like networks that are now happening at the microservices level. So, new paradigm. The new paradigm, actually, the whole idea is that your network folks, your storage folks, your server folks, like what they would use to be in-house, they need to be able to program, right? That's number one thing. So you need to retrain your workforce, right? If you don't have, you cannot retrain people overnight and then you bring in some folks who know how to program networks and then bring those in. There's a big misconception from people that the service provider, which is cloud service provider, is responsible for the security of your applications or for the network segmentation of your network. They are not, actually. They don't have any liability or security if you read the SLAs. It's your responsibility to have the sort of right firewalling, right checks and balances in place for the network, for storage, for compute, right policies in place. It's your responsibility. So let's talk about some tweets you've been doing because I've been one of the poll of the ones that I like. You tweeted a couple of days ago. We don't know how to recycle failed startups. Okay, and I said open source. And you picked up and wrote up another image. Is open source a dumping ground for failed startups? And it was interesting because what I love about open source is in the old days of proprietary software, if the company went under, the code went under with it. But at least now with open source, at least something can survive. But you bring up this dumping concept that also came up in an interview earlier today with another guest, which was with all this contribution coming in from vendors, it's almost like there's a dumping going on into open source in general. You can't miss a beat without five new announcements per day that someone's contributing their software from this project or even failed startup. Last hope, open source it. Is that good or bad? I mean, what's your take on that? What was your posture or thinking around this conversation? It said, good, is it bad? Yeah, I believe it's the economic problem, economics thing, right? So when somebody's proprietary model doesn't work, they say, okay, let me see if this works, right? Actually, they always go first with, okay, let me make money, right? High margin, right? Everybody loves that, right? But then if they cannot penetrate the market, they say, okay, let me make it open source, right? And then I will get the money from the sport or my own distro. Distros are a big open source killer. I said that a few times. Like when there's specific distributions of open source, they kill open source like nothing else does. Cause I was at Rackspace when we open sourced open stack and I saw what happened to open stack. It was like eye opening. So everybody kind of hijacked the open stack and started putting their own sort of flavors in place. I'll show you the outcome of that. They tend to infrastructure as a service, kind of has special purpose built view. And when the incomes cloud native didn't help either cloud group at that time too. We're talking about 2008 timeframe. Yeah, yeah. And exactly, another, why I said that was it was in a different context. Actually, I invested some money into an incubator in Berkeley, the battery. So we have taken about 70 plus startups through that program so far. And I've seen that pattern there. So I will interview the people who want to bring their startup to our incubator and all that. And then after, most of them fail, right? They're going to fade away. Or they definitely leave our incubator after a certain number of weeks. But then you see what happens to them. And now also living in the valley, you can't avoid it. I worked with 500 startups a little bit. I used to go to their demo days from the Rackspace days because we used to have a deal with them, a marketing deal. So the pattern I saw that was that there's a lot of innovation. There's a lot of brain power in these startups that we don't know what, these people just fade away. We don't have a mechanism to say, okay, hey, you are doing this and we are also doing similar stuff. We are a little more successful. Let's merge these two things and make it work. So we don't know how to recycle the startups. That's what that was about. It's almost a personal network of intellectual capital. There needs to be a new way to network in the IP that's in people's heads. Or in this case, if it's open source, that's easy there too. So being inaccessible. So there's no startup, there's no internet of startups, if you will. Hey, we said, hey, start a cube group, you'll do it, start a crowd chat. All right, I want to ask you about this consumption economics. I like this concept. Can you take a minute to explain what you mean by consumption economics? You said you're all over it. I know you talk a lot about it on Twitter. What is it about? Why is it important? Actually, the pattern I've seen in tech industry for the last 25, 24 years in Silicon Valley. So the pattern I was seeing is that everybody focuses on the supply side. Like we do this, we got to change the way you work and all that stuff. But people usually do not focus on the consumption side of things. How people are consuming things. I'm a great fan of a theory called jobs to be done theory. If you get a time, take a look at that. So what jobs people are trying to do and how you can solve that problem. Actually, if you approach it, your product services from that angle, that goes a long way. Another aspect I talk about the consumption economics is it's age of micro-consumption. And again, there are reasons behind it. The main reason is there's so much thrown at us individually and also enterprise-wise. So much technology is thrown at us. If we try to batch, if we try to say, okay, we're not going to consume the technology now and we're going to do every six months. Like we're going to release every six months or new software or new packages. And also, at the same time, we will consume every six months. That doesn't work. So the whole notion when I talk about the micro-consumption is that you keep bringing the change in micro-chunks. And I think AWS has mastered the game of micro-supplier, as a micro-supplier of that, micro-change, if you will. So they release- And by the way, they're very customer-centric. So listening to the demand side. Exactly. So they kind of walk hand-in-hand with the customer in a way that customer wants this and they're needing this. So let us release it. They don't wait for the old traditional model of like, okay, every year there's a new big release and there are service packs and patches and all that stuff. Even though other vendors have moved along the industry, but they still have longer cycles. They still release like 10 things at a time. I think that doesn't work. So you have to give, as a supplier, to the message, to the workers of the world and HPs, IBMs, give the change in smaller chunks. Don't give them monolithic. When you're marketing your stuff, even marketing masses should be in micro-chunks. Even if you created like five sort of features and let's say in Watson, just give them one at a time. Be Dvalpur friendly because Dvalpurs are the people who will consume that stuff. Yeah, and then making it more supply, less supply side, but micro-chunks or micro-services or micro-supply. Having a developer piece also plays well because they're also ones who can help assemble the micro. It's an illegal model of composability. Yeah, exactly. And so I think that's definitely right. The other thing I want to keep your thoughts on is, validated by Jerry Chen at Greylock and his hot startups and a few others, is my notion of stack overhaul. The changes in the stack are significant. I tweeted and you commented on it when the Red Hat IBM deal, because they were talking about, the IBM stack is going to be everywhere. And they're talking about the IBM stack and the old full stack developer model. But if you look at the consumption economics, you look at horizontally scalable cloud, native server lists and all those things going on with Kubernetes. The trend is a complete radical shifting of the stack where now the standardization is the horizontally scalable and then the differentiations at the top of the stack. So the stack is tweaked and torqued a little bit. And so this is going to change a lot. Your thoughts and reaction to that concept of stack, not a complete radical wholesale change, but a tweak. Actually, our CTO at Rackspace, John and Gates gave us a sort of speech at one of the conferences here in Bay Area. The title of that was stack, what stack, right? So the point he was trying to make was like, stack is like, we are not in the blue stack, red stack anymore. So we are across stack, actually. There's a lot of the sort of small Lego pieces we're trying to put those together. And again, the reason behind that is because that's some enabling technology like web services and restful APIs. So those have enabled us to- And new kinds of glue layers, if you will. Extraction layers. Yeah, I call it digital glue. So there's a new type of digital glue and now we are seeing the emergence of low-code, no-code sort of paradigms coming into the play, which is a long debate in itself. So they are changing the stack altogether. So everything is becoming kind of lightweight, if you will. Again- And more the level of granularity is getting thinner and thinner, not macro. So macro services doesn't exist. That was what I think my tweet is. Macro services are microservices. Which one of you thinks better? And we know what's happening with microservices. That is the trend. That is the trend. So that is the antithesis of macro or monolithic. So there's a saying in tech, actually. I will rephrase it. I don't know exactly how that is. So we actually tend to overestimate the impact of a technology in the short run and underestimate in the long term, right? So there's a famous saying, somebody said that. And I think that's so true. What we actually wanted to do after the dot-com bust was the object-oriented, like the sort of black box services, we call them web services back then, right? There were books written by IBM. Search-oriented architecture. Web services, RSS came out of that. I mean a lot of good things that are actually part of what the vision is happening today. It's happening now actually. It's just happening today. And mobile has changed everything, I believe. Not only on the consumer side, even on the consumer side. I mean that's literally 16, 17 years later. Yes, exactly. It took that long. It's a gestation period. Bitcoin, 10 years ago yesterday, the white paper was built. So the acceleration is certainly happening.  You've been tweeting about it lately. Thoughts on blockchain, what's your view on blockchain? Real? Going to have a big impact? I think it will have a huge impact actually. I've been studying on it actually. I was light on it. Now I'm a little bit reading on this and understand that I've talked to people who are doing this work. I think it will have a huge impact. Actually, the problem right now with blockchain is that the speed, right? So yeah, it's very slow, doc slow, if you will. But I think that is a technical problem. We can solve that. There's no sort of functional problem with the blockchain. Actually, it's a beautiful thing. Another aspect which come into play is the data sovereignty. So blockchain is actually a replicated throughout the world. If you want the worldwide money exchange and all that kind of stuff going around, we will need to address that. Because the data in search of land needs to sit there and data in the US needs to sit in the US. That blockchain actually kind of, it doesn't do that. You have a copy of the same data everywhere. Yeah, I mean, you talk about digital software to find money, software to find data center. I mean, it's all digital. I mean, someone once said whatever gets digitized grows exponentially. Oh, that was you. That was on October 30th. That came from a book actually. It's called Exponential Organizations. Actually, there are two great books I will recommend for everybody to read. Actually, there's the third one also. The two are, one is Exponential Organizations. It's pretty thin book. You should pick it up. And it talks about whatever gets digitized grows exponentially. But our organizations are not geared towards handling that exponential growth. And the other one is Consumption Economics. The title of the book is Consumption Economics. Actually, I saw that book after I started talking about the Consumption Economics myself. I'm an economics major, actually. So that's why I talk about that kind of stuff in those kind of things. Well, I think one of the things, I mean, we've talked about this privately when we've seen each other at some of the CUBE events. I think economics, the chief economic officer role will be a title that will be as powerful as a CISO, Chief Security Officer, because Consumption Economics, Token Economics, which is the crypto kind of dynamic of gamification or network effects. You've got economics in cloud. You've got all kinds of new dynamics that are now instrumented, that are death-thrown-off numbers. So there's math behind things, whether it's cryptocurrency, whether it's math behind reputation or anything. Math is driving everything. Machine learning, heavy math-oriented, algorithms. Yeah, actually, at the end of the day, economics matters, right? That's what we're all trying to do, right? We're trying to do things faster, cheaper, right? That's what automation is all about. And simplifying, too. And simplifying stuff. Can't throw complexity at more complexity. Yep. That's exponential complexity. Sometimes while we are trying to simplify things, and I also said many times, the tech is like medicine, right? I've said that many times. Tech is like medicine. Every pill has a side effect. Sometimes when we are trying to simplify stuff, we add more complexity. So... What's worse, the pain or the side effects? Yeah. Pick your thing. And your goal is to sort of reuse the side effects. They will be there. They will be there. And what is digital transformation? It's all about business. It's not less about technology. Technology is a small piece of that. It's more about business models, right? So we're trying to... When we talk about micro-consumption and the sharing economy, there are kind of similar concepts, right? So Uber's of the world and Airbnb's of the world. So those new business models have been enabled by technology and we want to replicate that with the medicine, with the, I guess, education, autos, and you name it. So we actually believe in micro-content. Okay, we've got the clipper tool, search engine. I love that. So the Cubonomics. It's a book that we should be getting... Yeah, we should do that, yeah. Cubonomics, economics behind the Cuban interviews. Sarpit, thank you for coming on. Great to see you. And thank you for your participation and engagement online in our digital community. We love chatting with you and always great to see you. And let's talk more about economics and digital exponential growth. It's certainly happening. Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it. It was great having you. All right, great. All right, this is theCUBE Conversation here in Palo Alto Studios here for theCUBE headquarters. I'm John Furrier. Thanks for watching.


On the night of April 18, there was a drone and missile attack on the Belgorod region of Russia. This was reported by local telegram channels. According to information, the drone that attacked the city of Belgorod was shot down by the air defense system. The images were shared on telegram channels. Governor of the province Vyacheslav Gladkov said that the city of Shebikino and the settlement of Razumnoi were fired upon and two people were injured. Both persons were discharged after receiving medical assistance. Several houses were damaged during the incident.


In breaking news, Mutt Draft has been disqualified from the NFL Draft using P.E.D.'s player enhancing drugs.  It is so dope. Okay, before the highest Mutt Draft you could get, I think, like Max was 88 overall. And I drafted earlier today, and I was drafting completely random players because I was just blown away by how good it was. And I got like a 92 overall. Say goodbye to this beautiful studio. This is just my apartment room at Michigan State, but I am moving to Grand Rapids for the summer. And then when I come back to East Lansing, I'll have a totally new studio because I won't be living here anymore. Alright, let's do this. I'm telling you boys. Get ready. Watch. Okay, you know what? That's not a very good example. But I did get 94 OJ Howard. So it's kind of a good example. And boom. Okay. Oh, yes. That is a good example. Okay. Here we go. It's firing up. 97 Andrew Norwell. Every single round is going to be absolutely bonkers. I am telling you. I don't know why they did this. This is so non-EA of them, but I am more than happy to accept. Get a 93 center here. We're going to try and round everything out, Eric Berry. Absolutely. 97 left tackle.  So this is my redemption for you 49ers fans if you're watching this. Okay. Here's our corner background. I honestly want Dick. What for? For overall purposes, I'm going to take Genors Jenkins. You definitely not a 99 overall. I don't know why this game does that. But I'll take Tyler Boyd 93 overall. We're in 88 with eight rounds left. Big Dante high tower. Let's go. I'm going to take true main and put them at my third corner and hopefully we get a free safety. We really need a free safety. Um, I'll take Woodjerd and I can move one of them to right outside linebacker. Take that left end or right end. Let's take Ezekiel Hansa. Ziggy. Okay. Dope. 95. Elshon Jeffrey. Absolutely. James Conner. Duh. Totally. I will take that. I got a James Conner right there. Huge. No, I should have taken that strong safety back there. All right. I'm going to move one of my corners to free safety. It's going to be really awkward, but I got to take night train lane here. Second to last round. Oh my God. All right. It's going to give me a 92 if I take another wide receiver. So I'm going to get this to Shawn Jackson. The final round. We need this to get us to a 93. Yes. Left end. Okay. I know what I'm doing. I'm taking Joey Bosa. I can make this a 93 overall. I promise you. Did I really not make a 93? Yes. Let's go. I knew I could do it. I was literally about to get mad and redraft because I didn't get the 93, but I did get the 93. 93 overall mud draft. All right. Let's hop into this game. That's absolutely nuts. Oh, opponent got 98 sweetness. Damn. It's okay though. We got night train lane. Night train lane is going to clamp. Why do I always look away from my screen? Why do I do it? Why? Why? Why do I do that? Oh, he's going to scramble. Are you dumb? It's alone. It's alone. Oh, I don't even know who that is. I was kind of hoping we could make a move there, but nope. Oh, he knew. He knew that's where I wanted to go. Fair enough. Oh, it was open too. Steve Young up the middle. Yo, he's got to be... Oh my God. That was fourth and six. Bro, I didn't even know that was fourth and six. Okay. Well, I guess it's good. I didn't tweak myself out. All right. Let's just play a little better here. We got some improving to do. We're going to hit Alshon Jeffrey. Dude, if you're going to break it, just break it up the field, my friend. You're not helping us like that. Okay. Fourth and four. If I throw the same thing, I should get it, right? I need Tyler Boyd to be open. Okay. Go. Oh my God. Fourth and conversion again from Steve Young. I love it. All right. Williams. I don't know who you are. I think you're my backup halfback, but let's see what you're... Let's see what you're made of. Well, good to know. Why was so open? Oh, I can scramble so easily. Am I really about to scramble for a fourth and four again? Do you guys think my luck has ran out or can I scramble for this again?  All right. First and 10. Ooh. He looked to the underneath. Dude, A is so open. Oh my God. Wait, wait, wait. Get to it. Oh, J. Howard. The other OJ would have made that catch and also kill this girlfriend. And also kill this girlfriend. Let's see about it. Just a nice little curl route will be open. Oh, B. No, no, no. Run button, run button. No. I meant to click B. Same thing other side. And we're just all over it. All right. Let's see if he does literally the same thing again. I kind of want to just go sack him. I know I got to play defense. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. Let's go. That was too easy. Okay. So why is that too easy? But I can't play any offense right now. I'm going inside zone out of this. Oh, give me a block. Give me a block. Let's go. Oh, James Connor. I just had this feeling that he won't ever figure out how to stop this. Okay. See, now he's guarding it, but Alshon should be wide open now. Oh, he actually is break. Give me a block. No. Now he's going to go for the pass. I'm going to hit the inside zone. Hit it quick. Hit it quick. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Yes. Great blocks. All right. He's in a literal goal line. 100%. Dude, look at those blocks. Perfect blocks. That was actually sick. Like that was dope that I just charged on the whole field with that formation. All right. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm going with the same bullets. Okay. Okay.  He needed a win. Do it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Is it Michael Kendricks or Mike Kale? It's spelled weird. So I feel it's not Michael. Don't need the bullets here. I'm on this. Go get them. Go get him. I'm here. I'm here for it. I'm here for it. No, don't put that off. I should have held the slot. I was like, he just punted it like 80 yards. See if I can get the blocks here. Blocks me there. Oh, guys, I think you figured it out. All right. to Shawn Jackson, good luck. All right, fourth and 10, this is big right here. Steve Young, Steve Young, the scrambled God. If it's fourth down, you scramble with Steve Young. That's the law. I think he doesn't even know how to put a QB spy on because he definitely should have done it by now. Okay, he's got a QB spy on me, I think. See, B was very open and it kind of still is. Oh, Tyler Boyd, let's go. I really could scramble this. Ooh, why is, no, no, no, no, he's not wide open. Wait, and I missed the tackle. Oh my God, dude, why am I only winning by seven? Dude, our Blitzes are unstoppable right now. All right, I'm gonna use your Kendricks and then I got the rest on the Blitzes. The Blitzes are unstoppable right now.  Here we go. If he throws this ball, it's getting picked off. I promise you that. I tried to tell him, I tried to tell him if he threw it, I was gonna pick it off. All right, it's the second half. We need to do some more scoring. And I think that's gonna start right here with the shot, Jackson.    Look at how I get caught. All right, this is the 100% a scramble touchdown. Like, he needs to learn, he needs to learn. I took that linebacker head on too. I love it. Rage quit, yes. Yes, literally yes. Goodbye, Bill's mafia. It was nice knowing you, buddy. Ladies and gentlemen, that is gonna conclude this draft video. I'm only concluding it right now because I wanna go do some theme drafts. I think those will be so fun with how juice these lineups are. So I'm gonna hop into that right now. I will see you guys in the next video. Peace out.


Hi everyone, Sean with jazzy's case breaks.com here doing 2021 tops museum collection baseball six box half case break pick a team number 21 where all cards shift uh and pick a team 21 and 22 are from the same case not 1920 21 and 22 so um we're looking for ridiculous stuff like this frame case hits uh these ones like the metal I think they have like a dual frame they have like hinges on them I want to see one of those one time in my life just pull one for somebody but here is our list of customers respective teams we've got two random number blocks one really big random number block with all these teams that encompasses the diamond backs and then that same random number block with all these teams here and then the second one is the angels yankees mariners right there and then you can see all the teams and the customers in the middle as well here's that angels yankees mariners random number block um the video for this random number block has been uploaded separately uh regarding the results and randomizing bet it page with zero will triggers with one and then here's the big old random number block from uh that encompasses the blue jays nationals mets cubs and a bunch of other teams all listed right there uh shana lyria with the zero and the one spot the reason zero and one matter in these random number blocks zero will get any and all redemptions for the teams in those random number blocks including one of one redemptions shan since he has a zero and the one spot that's not going to affect him here in this random number block with all these teams but here in this three team random number block benet would get any and all redemptions for those three teams in this break even known one of one redemptions while will would get any in person and live one of us there you go so now you get uh here are those lists all in person this is the big list with all the customers and teams and all that good stuff you will go right here i know will super special uh this is this three team angels yankees and mariners random number block and then here is the big how many teams is that one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen thirteen team random block there you go and here's our case uh we're going to pop this open and figure out which six boxes is going to happen for pick a team 21 and which six boxes are going to be saved for pick a team 22 which is also in random number block and can go tonight so if uh if you are so inclined we can run this back and do the second half of it tonight i think one got stuck in there you go there you come here oh here we go so there are 12 boxes we're going to do a dice roll to figure out which boxes we're doing one two three for the box on the left four five six for the boxes on the right here's my lucky dice lucky for me hopefully lucky for you to four so we're rolling the boxes on the right means these are going to be for pick team 22 so let's draw with my funny handwriting a 22 one here i mean you guys all know that these are all from the same case hopefully we can do them tonight if not this will show that these are all from that same case because that's my funny little handwriting good luck guys so we have been doing these i do them at three boxes at a time it seems to work out really well space wise and time wise for the break do you know that bruce buffer and michael buffer his brother hate each other uh bruce buffer tried to steal michael buffers um like uh announcement from from boxing and like his brother had to sue him to get him to stop and now they're like estranged and stuff like that sad story so bruce is kind of a dick oh and then uh remember four of those random number blocks um with this there will be non numbered cards so obviously the one 13 team random number block will probably have more a lot more non numbered cards than the three team random number block but all non numbered cards for random number blocks will be going to um i think so will i'm pretty sure they aren't they pretty far out ahead um will be randomized all at once at the end of the break to the spots in the random number block so anthony rindone angels that's part of the three team random number block non numbered randomizer like i explained boba shut that is for the toronto blue jays part of the 13 team non numbered random number block and micah stremsky five out of 10 for the giants and shane warner well you're a much smarter person than i am you got shohio tani nine out of 50 for the angels that's part of the three team random number blocks spot nine will biggers alec bomb for the fillies and harry stein mitz and willy castrow dual relic and auto for the tigers and joe madera that is 88 out of 349 it's true well i've heard great things about you that's fun hey erin that is braves dick tall walk and kasey my is rookie otta another one for the tigers that is 189 out of 200 detroit tigers and joe maderos dylan carlson for the cardinals non numbered 13 team random number block and migelsa know to 39 out of 75 for the minnesota twins howard's a porkin for nanotutsies junior for the Padres harry stein mitz and wilson contreras that is 16 out of 50 dual relic and auto for the cuddies that is part of the 13 team random number block spot six is david melel korey seager 19 out of 50 for the dodgers and david melel and paul the young that is 13 out of 99 quad relic for the cardinals and spot three on the random number block is benet page nick madrigal for the white socks howard's a porkin is it al mr tiger al kayline for the tigers joe maderos and a ryan mount castle rookie otta 162 out of 200 that is paul to war royals matt low sliver bobby dolbert for the red socks chris walker i just saw the funniest e-fist pitch by uh who is this brock holt joe dell for the angels that's part of the three team random number block non numbered randomizer at the end and chris sail trip the three-color patch 19 out of 25 for the red socks chris walker oh my god that's hilarious if anybody hasn't seen that video it's pretty good shane beaver for the indians roger hoyans frankie francisco lindore for the mets that is part of the 13 team random number block non numbered cards and tre mancini 44 out of 50 orials matt low stutter mike schmidt for the fillies harry stein mitz joey bart for the giants that is shane warner and julie gurell 130 out of 200 for the astros that's part of the 13 team random number block 130 out of 200 spot zero sean o'leary david orteez big poppy red socks chris walker and quad relic a little bit of three-color patch there 41 out of 75 matt olson in the a's for mike smith and frank robinson seven sorry 23 out of 150 for the orials matt low stutter and jersey and otto michael conforto that is 13 out of 15 two-color patch and otto for the mets part of the 13 team random number block spot three bennett page here you go bennett so that's the first three boxes and guess what we have another three by the way that was a really good blogging body slamming and sarin donald whoever that cowboy was i have a feeling that guy's gonna regret it though oh we got a gold frame what that means uh honestly actually a gold frame typically sometimes means that there'd be a silver frame in the other side but no guarantee but we've seen multiple cases where there's been multiple frames so tmsa women's basketball gold pretty grinders pretty incredible i don't know why i said it like i'm surprised pretty grinders scored 30 points rana steward 14 points 14 rebounds but oh i did not see that now. I'm sure that works though. Yeah, I didn't see that at all. But yeah, I'm 100% sure that works. But remember, I'm a little old Sean, no type of decision maker here whatsoever, as has been made clear to me and to you guys many times before. So I will do what's what's told to me as I've been told. Oh, I know Joe, I get it preaching to the the choir. It's good for Netflix too, Will. What's your what's your favorite current show? I got a I just I just caught up on or I just finished season one of Ted Lasso. I had multiple people tell me that it was a great show. Ignored them all. Finally went back and watched it. Yeah, it's good. Willie Mays for the Giants. That is Shane Warner, Alex Kierloff, Twins, Howard Zeporkin, Ryan Mountcastle Orioles, Matt Losstutter and Max Kepler, 13 out of 35 for the Twins and Howard Zeporkin. Ted Lasso? Yeah, on on Apple TV, Will. It's great. My like I did not expect at all to be that good. Lotus on HBO. Don't know about that, but I'm gonna have to get into it now. Louise Robert, that is 53 out of 99 for the White Sox, Howard Zeporkin. And we've got a one-of-one sketch. Who is that? Nate Pearson? Yeah, very nice. One-of-one Nate Pearson, Toronto Bluejays. That's part of the 13 team random number block. Sean O'Leary. That's very cool. Rookie, one-of-one. And Andrew Benintendi. Triple Relic and Otto for the Royals. And Brandon Hall. I think the one-of-one sketches are the coolest. 94 out of 125. I know there's like a lot of cool stuff that comes out of a museum collection. I love the sketches. That's my jam. How cool is that? We drew that. That's so awesome. Bob Gibson for the Cardinals. That's part of the random number block, 13 team random block non-numbered. And Walker Bueller, Silver, Inc. Otto, 231 out of 249 for the Dodgers and David Malel. I don't know, Joe. I don't know. That's a good question. Maybe if we get some time, we can explore that checklist and see. I have a feeling that they probably have a, it's probably on group break checklist that says who they have one of the sketches of. Jose Altuve for the Astros. That's part of the 13 team random number block non-numbered randomizer. Is that Roy Campanella, Dodgers, David Malel, good ol' Roy. And Quad Relic for the White Sox. Robert Jimenez Anderson and Abreu to 99. White Sox, Howard Zeporkin. I can't remember who it was this year or last year. I pulled the Tatees one-of-one sketch. I want to see what it was this year. Kyle Lewis, Mariners. That's part of the 3 team random number block Angels, Yankees, Mariners, non-numbered randomizer. Alec Bohm for the Phillies. Harry Steinmetz and Hank Aaron for the Braves and Nick Talwalk. And Brady Singer, Dual Relic rookie Otto for the Royals, Brandon Hall. That is 295 out of 349. No, no Freddie. Freddy Injury. Ernie Banks, Cubs. That's part of the 13 team randomizer, non-numbered randomizer at the end. And Alec Bohm, 45 out of 50 for the Phillies. Harry Steinmetz, Luis Robert. That is 17 out of 50 for the Cubbies. There are White Sox, Howard Zeporkin. Whoa, one-of-one Elvis Andrus. Nice majestic tag. Texas Rangers. That's the 13 team random number block randomizer. That is a one-of-one spot one Sean O'Leary. Now you get that sketch one-of-one and you got an Elvis Andrus majestic tag one-of-one. I am. I'm very much down. Nolan Aronado, 6 out of 150 for the Cardinals. That's the 13 team random number block. Spot 6, David Mollal. And Kyle Schwerber, 49 out of 200 for the Cubs. And that's the 13 team random number block. 49, spot 9 is Sean O'Leary. One box left. Finished with the Goldframe. Frank Robinson Orioles, Matt Lohstutter. And Mariano Rivera, sketch for the Yankees. Part of the non-numbered random number block, 3 team. And Mike Trout, 37 out of 99, Quad Relic. That's also part of the 3 team random number block. Spot 7, Will Driggers. Well, I think something big quarterback hit should be coming out of that. Because first half was nice, but no quarterbacks. Miguel Cabrera, Tigers. Joe Medeiros. And Mookie Betts, 3 out of 35 for the Dodgers. David Mollal. David, there's a little bit of a, not so good, see a little bit of the thing on the bottom there. Two-color patch there though. 19 out of 150 for the Braves, Nick Talwalk. Freddie Freeman, who apparently had an upper respiratory infection that took him out of the game. Wilson Contreras, Triple Relic. And Otto for the Cubbies. That's part of the 13 team random number block. That is numbered on the back. That is 9 out of 125. Spot 9, Sean O'Leary. You know what, Joe? My girlfriend, I think, watched that. That's the one that's Spanish, right? Isn't there like, I think there's a lot of stuff involved in that though. You know what, Will? That's totally cool. And congrats on the incoming babies. That's way more important. Aaron Judge, Yankees. Part of the three team, non-number random number block. Boy or girl. And our gold frame to finish the break. It's Yaz, Carl Yastremski. Gold frame 10 out of 10 for the Boston Red Sox and Chris Walker. Very cool. Beautiful. Gold frame, gold ink, Otto. Yaz. There you go, guys. No randomizers on the break. Actually, yeah. One randomizer. Boy number two. Congrats, man. 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9. Okay, so we have one randomizer to do. It's for all the non-numbered cards for the random number blocks. 0-9. Dice roll. 10 times. So whatever number ends up on top, that number in each separate random number block will get all non-numbered cards for the teams in that random number block. 10 times on the randomizer. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9. 10th and final time. Spot two, which in the three team angels, Yankees, Mariners, random number block is Sean O'Leary. You'll get all non-numbered cards for those three teams. And spot two on the non, the 13 team random number block is also Sean O'Leary, as you can see here. So there's the three team random number block. Spot two, Sean O'Leary. Here's spot two on the 13 team random number block. Also Sean O'Leary. So Sean O'Leary is going to get all the non-numbered cards for all of those teams in the random number blocks. And there you go, guys. That's the break. That is 2021 Topps Museum Collection Baseball Six Box One Half Case Break Picker Team Number 21, jaspyscasebreaks.com. I'm Sean. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you next time.