This is Covering the Spread, part of the Fandall podcast network. Our week of 15,000 sports wraps up this week on Covering the Spread because we have covered NBA, NHL, UFC, PGA, NASCAR, NFL, all in the same week. So why not finish things off with one more sport?  This is Covering the Spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and NumberFire.com. My name is Jim Sannis. I am a senior writer and analyst for NumberFire.com. Joy here is mentioned by Austin Cass. Check him out on Twitter at Austin Cass. Find his work covering the EPL, but also doing NBA props and stuff like that. Over on NumberFire.com. Austin, welcome to the show. How are you doing today? I'm doing really well. Thanks for having me. How are you? I'm doing great. Last time we had Iwan was in the thick of the World Cup. So slightly different stakes, but it sounds like things in the EPL are pretty fun right now. So it seems like it's a nice time to check back in with this world. Yeah. Yeah. It's a really good time to jump back in. And we'll be doing that today. Like I said, talking about the futures market, we'll talk about some matches. And if you are transitioning to betting some EPL with time opening up here at the NFL, we'll talk about the process Austin goes through as well in case you want to formulate your own process, but don't know where to start with that. We'll break all that down in just one second. But first, a reminder to make sure you are subscribed to covering this spread. Wherever you get your podcasts, our first look at Super Bowl 57 is up. That was up on Monday, breaking down the markets there. Well, my number said we talked about some USC with Austin Swain yesterday. There is a time stamp for that in the episode description. You want to skip past yesterday's NBA discussion and get to that. And then also I broke down what my models are saying about the clash in NASCAR this weekend. Time stamp for that is also there. 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Arsenal is minus 150 to win a fandal sportsbook man city is at plus 120 so a educate me are there ties can you tie in this market or no no you can't okay sad this is either one of those two is going to win the league and that's the one to bet okay so is there any value for you in that market right now with that being the caveat there yeah it's a really intriguing market I like futures markets in general and all sports but for this one I really like man city at plus 120 Arsenal been a really big surprise this season they weren't even a favorite to get in the top four so Liverpool was the team that was supposed to challenge man city so it took a while for the betting market to actually make Arsenal the title favorites even though through 19 matches they've won 16 drawn twice and only lost one time and then their one defeat they actually played really well so this just flipped about three weeks to go to where Arsenal are now the favorites and they're five points clear at the top of the table and they have a game in hand which means they just played one fewer game than man city but Arsenal and city have yet to face each other so they'll play each other twice which could be a six-point swing if somebody wins both of those and the first of those matches comes up on February 15th so I think if you have a strong feeling about this market which I do in man city then the time to bet is before that game on the 15th so by fb refs expected goals models city have been the better team despite the five-point gap city has 4.1 more expected goals and they've given up 4.1 fewer and that's with Arsenal playing what I would say is at their absolute peak so far and while city have been a little bit underwhelming uh city's xg per 90 is 1.29 and it was 1.86 last year so there's a lot of room for them to play better than what they've been playing and I think they're probably going to get back closer to that level and if city are able to get a win in that February 15th game I think this market's going to flip back to city be in the favored team so I want to bet them before that match so you mentioned that man city's expected goals this year is down from last year so you're expecting them to improve from where they've been thus far but expected goals is already like an advanced metric that can hit regression in another way you're expecting that number to regress so when you're looking at that trying to analyze okay I think this team could improve in this advanced metric what are you using to decide that is it's kind of like knowledge of the players intuition you know what what goes into deciding that for you some of it is that um but most of it is looking at what they've done in previous years it's not always perfect but man city has a lot of the same players arguably some better players with Erling Holland now than they've had in previous years so I don't know what the reason is that they've been playing poorly their coach Pep Guardiola seems to think they're just really content they've won the league four times in the last five years and there's really only been a few games this year where they've looked like man city usually looks like and one of those was the second half of the game against Tottenham where if they've lost they would have been in a really big hole in the league and it seemed like they kind of flipped the switch so maybe I'm guilty of underrating Arsenal a little bit and just thinking that man city are going to be able to turn it on but I do think that's what's going to happen uh with Holland having scored like 60 000 goals how is their xg not higher that's my main question yeah I mean sports are so crazy especially in soccer it's like a low event sport with just a ton of variance and yeah you know Holland's probably going to win the player of the year in the league and break the record for goals and they're going to score less points and less goals than they did last year like it just doesn't make any sense really yeah well it's interesting yes Austin's in on man city they're plus 120 as he mentioned over a fan dual sports book right now and I think the key thing is you mentioned the inflection point with that first match between them coming up here uh February 15th is that so if you want to get in a man city if you agree with the analysis around they're going to improve you want to buy in that's the time you want to make sure you do so before then to get in before that match occurs now back when we had you on during the World Cup Austin we talked about your process for betting this and you kind of alluded to aspects of your process when talking about the futures market but for people who didn't listen then maybe want to get into betting soccer betting the epl what does your process look like for betting soccer what data are you looking at before you place the bet um I really like fb refs expect a goals model which are referenced earlier there's a bunch of them out there they're all pretty good but they're all just like a little bit different and I found theirs to be the most accurate um but if I'm going to bet like a team-centric bet on a on a soccer match it's probably going to be a live bet I think the pre-match lines are super sharp as they are like in all sports so my favorite way to bet soccer would be if I like let's say Tottenham before a game but I don't love their pre-match odds maybe just wait till 20 minutes into the game and see what's going on that can obviously backfire if they score early and that window is going to be gone but if it's still zero zero sometimes you can get them at the number you maybe thought they should have been at before the game so that's what I like to do and I also like the correct score market so I'll give an example from this weekend um there's just a lot more bank for your buck in that market Arsenal are minus 250 to win at Everton so that's a huge number to swallow but they're plus 550 to win 1-0 and plus 500 to win 2-0 so I'd much rather take a shot on one of those than swallow that 250 number now when you're talking about the expected goals number from FB ref um how are you applying that are you just comparing like team A versus team B looking at their expected goals seeing which one is higher you know what how do you implement that number in making a bet yeah so you know obviously the betting markets have their own models that probably include expected goals sure um I really weigh heavily a team's recent form their last five games how they've how they've played and what their expected goals allowed and then scored and then same thing for the other side so sometimes I think there's a team that's maybe in a poor run of form then that isn't fully accounted for in the market but like I said the pre-match lines are usually really good for soccer yeah and it's a market everyone is betting into internationally there's a lot of money in it so it makes sense that be a very efficient market and I understand why you go that way and I think the advantage of taking a live betting approach I don't tend to do it myself personally because I don't have a model for it so it's hard for me to like I want to know that I have value before I bet something but I think the advantage there is you mentioned okay you like Tottenham let's say they score early and erase the bet like yes you are missing out on a bet but you're not making a bad bet and I think that like I'd rather miss out on a good bet than make a bad bet that's just kind of my personal preference I would much rather I want again I said this before but I want my null hypothesis going in to be that I'm not going to make a bet and then convince me that I should and when you're taking a live betting approach yes you're going to miss out on some but if you can get a better value later on I think that is a worthwhile trade-off you will make fewer bets but that's never a bad thing if the bets you actually make are better so I think that that's kind of and like honestly like if you're watching the game and Tottenham looks like trash just don't bet it you know I think that that's the other advantage is you can kind of I think make you can of it's easier to avoid bad bets if you are trying to avoid the super efficient market yeah yeah I agree with you and one of the unique things about betting soccer live is that when there is a goal like that one thing obviously is going to swing the odds so big and that doesn't really happen in basketball or football even like a pick six or something it's not going to swing it crazy but in soccer a team can go from like plus 120 to like minus 600 right depending on when that goal is in the game and it yeah it can be really crazy yeah absolutely so I like that approach for sure now you mentioned the exact score markets that's one right you can take if you want to avoid the hyper efficient markets do you do player props or like other stuff with these matches or is it primarily live betting the you know the exact score markets and stuff like that it's I'm a huge fan of the props for soccer and they offer just so many options but my well some of the more popular ones are you can bet on players to take a shot how many shots will get on goal or sorry players a score goal and shots on target and shots a shot on target technically is a shot that's either a goal or that gets saved by the goalie okay the shot that hits the post is technically not a shot on target but my go-to bets are on a player to score or assist and then a player to be shown a card either a yellow or red card it fits it fits a match where one of the sides is a big underdog I like targeting defensive midfielders to get carded because that physician can sometimes get put in like compromised spots if they're just under siege the whole game and either make one bad foul to get a card or you can get a card from just an accumulation of fouls so that's that's something I like to do a lot and then the goal or assist you know if I really like a player X to you know to score a goal I'm not going to get as good of odds with this goal or assist that I would as him to score a goal but goals can just be super random so if I feel good about a team creating a lot of chances right and one of their focal points I'll just take him to to get a goal or an assist okay I think that makes a lot of sense yeah if you want to find that one it's under the assist market at least on fan dual and then I believe you can also get it under the goals uh the goals tab so you couple different routes for finding it but sometimes it's just under the popular tab to like the first tab that puts you on yeah so you got a couple routes to finding that if you are looking for those when you are looking at the matches for this week speaking of which let's do exactly that now there is a match here on Friday we're talking pretty close to that so we'll ignore that one for right now but pretty good offerings on both uh Saturday and Sunday seven matches Saturday we'll talk about Sunday here in a second but when you look at the Saturday matches Austin any bets you like in those matches um my favorite bet comes from the Brighton Bournemouth match which takes place at 10 Eastern tomorrow morning I like Bournemouth to get shut out which is priced at minus one 10 now that's not what you it's not a hard sell on getting somebody to watch a game but Bournemouth are dead last in the league and expected goals generated it's just 15.2 in 20 matches which is really bad uh Brighton have permitted the sixth fewest XG which is 23.9 in 19 matches so Bournemouth have scored one goal over their last five games primarily games and that came in it's Nottingham Forest which is one of the teams near the bottom of the table uh Bournemouth should have a really really hard time creating clear chances against Brighton and with that like kind of circling back to what I said earlier I don't mind Brighton to win 2-0 which is plus 5-50 or 3-0 which is plus 8-50 so I just think Brighton's a much better team and Bournemouth's going to have a really hard time scoring a goal yeah minus one 10 the number on that one for Bournemouth to get shut out the Brighton versus Bournemouth match on Saturday as Austin mentioned for that one uh what makes them so like what what inspires the pessimism for you on them and Bournemouth well they're they're just really bad they're probably going to get relegated oh and Brighton are just a machine right now they're trying to compare them to like an American team like the Rays for baseball they just keep selling players but somehow it just like doesn't matter and they're still good every year and they just have just like a simply line of talent yeah and they're fantastic defensively so it's just a really bad attacking team playing at a really good offensive team and yeah it doesn't have to be super difficult right and if you want to like Austin said if you want to really fade Bournemouth you can go with the correct score market two two nil as he mentioned is plus five fifty three nil plus eight fifty right now for that match over at fangirl sportsbook anything else you like on saturday or should move to sunday nothing much for saturday but there are a bunch of games going out once and it's yeah a little bit like the one to seven window for nfl so if you're trying to get into the sport it's a great time to to hop in on saturday afternoons do we need scott hansen to you know warm the the pipes again to get back in action here that would be great uh i i would love that i think that'd be great okay would you have two matches on sunday as well anything you like in those two games um i like erling holland to score for man city he's minus 120 to score and he's kind of gotten to the level of like mesi and rinaldo and imbappe where anytime he's close to even money like we have to be interested just check it out so he's got 25 goals in 19 league games and he'll be on penalties it's really crazy and yeah him being on penalties is a huge thing for anytime goal markets obviously so anytime city gets the penalty he's going to take it and he's probably going to score it uh tautnam have really struggled offensively of late they've allowed at least 1.0 xg and seven of their last eight league matches 15 goals overall in that time including four to this man city team the last time they played and they've completed at least twice in the six of the last eight games so i'm expecting city to be able to create a few really good chances and holland to be uh on the end of one of those yeah holland as you mentioned minus 120 right now fandal sportsbook that's for the tautnam versus man city game if you just go to the popular tab anytime goal scorer holland is minus 120 right there all right that's all we got here for today breaking down the epl but austin we're gonna bring you back because we gotta talk more epl uh down the line i need to figure out the sport so i'm gonna lean on you gonna force you to talk about it gonna force you to make me better with this uh we'll talk plenty about it and hopefully get some good bets out there as well but austin i appreciate the time for today uh good luck to you uh whether it be dfs betting whatever it may be for this weekend and i'll talk to you again soon sounds good thank you very much all right check out austin cas on twitter at austin cas and find his work over at number fire at i j i m s a n a s once again we've got usc and nascar and nfl already in the feed over on the covering the spread podcast be next week coming up a lot of super bowl 57 discussion along with some college basketball and it's going to be a blast make sure you are subscribed on your podcast platform of choice hey fantastic weekend everybody we'll talk to you once again next week this has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network


Today, I want to talk about a particular thing which is called thematic relations in sentence, thematic relations among arguments in a sentence and what you have seen so far is as the structure of a sentence or the structure of any phrase is X bar is scheme is actually a representation of sentence and what we are going to discuss in terms of thematic relations is actually constrained on, constrained on components and their relationships. So, that we do not, we do not get anything that we want in sentence and elements in a sentence gets restricted in a particular way. However, that does not stop the, that does not disrupt the things that we have talked about a phrase or a sentence can be infinitely long, still be infinitely long as long as the thematic relations is taken care of. Before getting into specific thematic relations what sentences like to follow besides categorical rules, lexical rules and semantic selection rules is selectional restrictions. We do not, we do not find sentences which have, which violate selectional restriction that is a predicate in a sentence is very, very sensitive to what it selects and sometimes violation of such selectional restriction may lead to unacceptable and grammaticality. As you can see here it is there, the grammatically these sentences are very, very clear, very good. There is, there is no grammatical error in the sentences like these like my dog, my dogs love to read. There is an error here in the sentence my dogs love to read newspapers. Perfectly good sentence read is a transitive verb. It has an argument, it has a compliment, sorry love is a transitive verb. It has a compliment and it works perfectly fine, but this is not a warranted sentence in natural language. This chair is sweet. The problem, this sentence runs into difficulty when it selects the, the noun selects not warranted adjective in it. Buildings walk slowly. Say it is a, this sentence again violates selectional restriction where the predicate walk does not select, does not agree with specifier of a noun, specifier of a sentence where the agreement does not work between them. I briefly want to underline one issue and then move to thematic relations and to this issue I will come, come later when I am talking about structural relations. See the, the relationship between love and newspaper is perfectly okay. Love to read newspaper is perfectly okay. The problem is between the predicate love and the subject. Do you notice that? Similarly in the third one the problem is between the predicate and the subject okay. There is, there is no problem within the predicate where walks and the adverbs slowly is perfectly done. I will return to this thing later. I just wanted to underline this thing to you. Thematic relations in a sentence is about roles that, that an argument plays in a sentence. For example, when we say Brad hit Andrew, this is a good sentence. How many nouns phrases do you see here? How many nouns do you see here in the sentence? Two, one is the, according to the structure of a sentence, one is the subject and the other is, the other noun is object. One is subject, the other is an object. Thematically speaking, subject and objects both have a role to play in a sentence. Thematically speaking, in this sentence Brad plays the role of an agent and Andrew plays some other role okay. And the definition of an agent, you can read this thing, the definition of an agent is someone who initiates the action okay. Normally in a sentence, in a declarative sentence you are going to see subjects responsible for initiating actions. Therefore most of the time subject gets the role of an agent. However, that may not be a necessary condition for the sentence everywhere. So, we cannot say by definition subjects are agents. That may not be true, but most of the time subject nouns, subject n p's get thematic role of an agent okay. I come to, and yes there is another important point here that every noun phrase that you see in a sentence, every noun phrase must have a thematic role. If a noun in a sentence does not have a thematic role then that leads to ungrammaticality too. That which means that sentence, that noun is not needed in the sentence, therefore the sentence is grammatical. I am going to show you some examples of how not getting a thematic role leads a sentence into ungrammaticality. Could we say that the subject of all active word sentences could be agents? Not necessarily, not necessarily. We can say like the example that I gave you this, the building walks slowly. It is a grammatical sentence. It is a declarative sentence, not a passive one. Building could get a semantic, thematic role of an agent, but this is not a grammatical sentence for two reasons. There is a mismatch between building and walking because the, when, when walk assigns agent-theta-thematic role to a noun, it must be a movable object. In that case also, if suppose, and there are some predicates which just does not assign thematic role, agent role to its subject. I am going to show you some examples of such type. However, statistically this is true that most of the time sentences tend to get agent-theta role, but we cannot form that as a rule. Again to repeat this thing, please keep in mind that every noun phrase, every noun must have a theta role, a thematic role in a sentence. Next one, next is experiencer. And look at, look at these examples. Sometimes certain predicates, when they assign thematic role to their, to their noun phrases in the, in the sentence, they need not be agents in the sense that Bob saw the, saw the car. The predicates seen does not require agency. When, when you are seeing something, you are not necessarily an agent. So, subject noun phrase getting thematic role of an agent depends on the nature of the predicate. Whether a predicate wants an agent-thematic role or not, syntax frightens gym. Now, the word frighten is not something which assigns agent-theta role, agent-thematic role to NNP. And the, the, the reason why this example is significant here is because experience, experiencer-thematic role is not necessarily assigned to the subject alone. It can be assigned to objects as well. So, in this sentence, you see gym being the experiencer of the whole act of being, getting frighten. Susan loves cookies. Does the word love assigns agency? Agent-theatrol is Susan an agent in this sentence. It does not look like an active agent. It becomes an experiencer. The, the point in this is predicates like see, frighten, love, hit. These do not assign necessarily an agency to the subject and sometimes these predicates assign experiencer-thematic role to arguments. These predicates assign experiencer-thematic role to arguments and sometimes they assign experiencer-thematic role to their objects as well. In the, like frighten's assent, an agency role to the subject, right? Syntax frightens gym. Will be similar, similar to that? Right. Gym and Andrew will be experiencer. Yes. That will assign. Also, like the, object can be an agent also, right? No. Object will not be an agent. In a passive or sentencer? Passive sentences are different type of sentences. Remember yesterday, I was telling you about transformation rules. In earlier theoretical models of explaining sentences, we were working with transformation rules. So, according to transformation rules, interrogative sentences were transformed from declarative sentences. Passive sentences were transformed from active sentences. That is, we had active to passive transformation, declarative to question transformation, affirmative to negative transformation. These research has shown that these sentences are independent sentences. They are not, actually, when you have a passive sentence, they are not actually related to active one. When we have a interrogative sentence, they are not necessarily related to the declarative, declarative sentences and likewise, negative sentences are not really a product of their affirmative counterparts. So, every time we talk about a passive sentence, what comes to our mind is its active counterpart. That is not true. What is also true about thematic relations is, once a thematic relation is assigned to a noun in a sentence, it does not change. It stays the same way. So, in talking about a passive sentence, if the subject has, let us say, let us talk about an older model, in which passive sentences were outcomes of active counterparts. In an active sentence, the subject was assigned agent-theta row. In the passive, also, it remains agent. So, when we say John killed the tiger, the passive counterpart will be a tiger was killed by John. Who is the agent? The subject of the passive sentence becomes the tiger, but the tiger does not receive agent-theta row, agent-thematic relation. What still remains agent is by John. So, thematic relations do not change once assigned to a particular NP. Still, there are components which shows the X bar and case agreement and other structural relations which show that passive sentences are not the direct outcome of their active counterparts. If time permits, I will show you that part. But is this much clear? Let us look at another one. Sometimes. So, when you look at sentences like, Mary loves cookies. We have just seen Mary will get the thematic role of an experiencer, but what is the role of cookies in this sentence? Is it an agent? Is it an experiencer? Does it experience anything? Does this NP experience anything? When some NPs remain basically dormant, then they are called themes. So, these types of NPs with these predicates get thematic role of theme. The syntactician bought a phonology textbook or we can get any sentence with the predicate buy. I bought a car. When I am buying a car, the compliment car is neither an agent nor an experiencer. It nothing happens to that. It remains dormant in the argument structure and therefore, we call it a theme. Please know that these words like agent, patient, experiencer, theme, these are the words coined depending on their roles. So, there is nothing technical about these names. What is technical is which one gets assigned to which NP? Rock, hit, terry. Why is it terry and experiencer? They are semantically dependent roles. True, but the thematic role theme is more appropriate for that because it did not want to be hit. In the thematic role of experiencer, sometimes volitionality may be involved, but there is no volitionality involved. There was no fault of terry when it got hit by, it is a very terrible sentence. I do not know why this kind of sentence comes to existence, but anyway. You are right, it could be experiencer as well. It will be very difficult to argue this is not an experiencer at all because terry does not experience anything, but what I can say is theme will be more appropriate and better than theme, what will be more even more appropriate is patient in the sense that it did not have any role in getting hit. At times in calling this one either an experiencer or a theme could be little bit complicated. What could be more complicated is the distinction between theme and patient. Some people make the distinction between theme and patient too. I have tried to put at least two of them together. You are right that this could be, it is easy to argue that this could be something else also and there is not much to defend there. What is an important part of this is what you think is that NP can be debated, but that NP must have a thematic role is not debated. Look at another one goal. Now, look at this one and you will see more difficulty. A falling rock hit terry. Did we have the same sentence there? Now, look at this. It could be a goal too. So, we are not saying that an object NP will have just one name for it. Depending upon the meaning of the sentence, it could be an experiencer, it could be a theme, it could be a goal. Sometimes this ambiguity may not lie. There is an error here. This is an error. This one is not, that sentence is not good, but look at the third one. Bill went to Chicago. To Chicago as a, as a phrase is a goal. Travis was given a semantics article. This is a passive sentence and in this this NP becomes a goal. Because it says goals may involve abstract motion. So, the buying could be the abstract motion. He is the recipient of the. But not the goal. It will not be a goal. This is an error here for sure. This is an error. That rule we cannot formulate. We are only with this roles, we are only saying that there are different types of roles. Agent, theme, patient, goal, experiencer. These are different names of different relations. How the theme and the goal be, be different? A falling rock, a falling rock. In the same sentence, our teddy is the goal as well as the theme. As well as the patient or the, or theme. It could be, it could be a theme that it, it did not have anything to do. Theme, theme is more, more or less a dormant kind of an entity. Like I read a book. A book is a theme in this sentence. In this case it is not, each one of these arguments, each one of these NP's in a sentence must have one or the other role. There could be more roles assigned to one, but one must be assigned. And these are the differences of names. Sometimes these names are, these names may sound overlapping and also please look at the definitions that I have given. They are not a standard or text book definitions. They are just a generic description of these terms. I do not think there is, there are text book definitions of these things anyway. Should we talk about a recipient? Not yet. Let us see what becomes a recipient. Jessica gave, sorry, Julie gave Jessica the book. Is this a clear example of a recipient? Someone which receives special kind of goal that involves change of position. Does this NP's sound like a recipient? It is a clear example of a recipient. Now it sounds the same as the, like, how is it different from the goal? I did not understand that part. Difference from the goal. In goal we took the example of Travis was given a semantic article. The recipient also, sir. Travis, yeah, that is possible. So, and what is it? Experiencer and recipient. I, the way I understand it is an experiencer has to be plus human entity and the recipient may or may not be. And again, I am trying to tell you this thing again and again that these names may overlap. So, the more significant question is, how do I decide whether this is an experiencer or a recipient or a goal or a theme? X bar theory does not help us to that. Rather, what thematic relations of arguments does is, puts a check on X bar theory that if we have warranted a phrase in the sentence with a thematic relation, then please take care of this. You find a place for this in the, in the structure. If we do not have a role assigned to a, to an NP or a PP, then that is not part of the sentence. Just, just drop that. That, that is out of the main component of the sentence. How we give them a name is, is more of, more often, most often, most often decided by us, in this case this sounds more like a goal, not like a recipient. This sounds more like a patient, not like a theme or more like a theme, not like patient. It, decided by us. We can impose more and more restrictions on the differences between recipient and, and what was that? Experiencer or theme and patient or goal. Some of them are very close, some of them are way too different from one another. But there is no yard stick to categorically say that no, this is, this is a goal, this is an experiencer, this is, this is a patient. There is no such thing. Like, like I tried to show you the distinction between a compliment and adjunct, there are categorical rules for that. A compliment can only be a compliment before in the structural hierarchy. An agent need, sorry, an adjunct can be defined structurally. These things do not have a structural distinction. These things cannot be classified in structural terms. Therefore, you find this overlap and, and what we call ambiguity. Get it? There are, there are more and we can, we can point more names like location, instrument depending upon what suits that P P or N P. Andrew is in the room. In the room is a location, locational P P. We are all at school. At school gets locational thematic, locational thematic, thematic role. When we say things like, Patrick hacked the computer apart with an axe. You really hack a computer with an axe? That is okay. This guy will, this key will open the door to the Douglas building or to the ICNSR building. The N P key and the P P with an axe get instrumental role in these predicates. And then, then we have more like, benefactor, the entity for whom the action occurs. Sentences like bill bought these flowers for Mary. Mary will be a benefactor, will, will, will get benefit of these things. Now, again look at this. This could also be recipient. This could also be recipient. So, these are, these are just the names that, that we can assign. And if you assign recipient thematic role, the recipient role to this, it is not really too, too bad. There are more. I, I have just mentioned some of them to you. Let us look at thematic criterion, which, which plays as, which works as condition, as restriction on sentences structure. Every argument must have one and only one theta role. Again, look at this. Let me move and then I will show you what it means by one and only one. And every theta role must be assigned to one and only one argument, which means if we have already decided about an agent, we cannot assign another agent, we cannot decide about another agent in the sentence. That is, there cannot be two agents in one sentence. Get, get this thing? So, this, this puts a very heavy restriction on assignment of thematic roles. Sentences, in compound sentences also, every NP will get a thematic role. For example, give me an example of a compound sentence. I have just discussed one with you, so far. John knows that Bill likes Mary. The whole sentence that Bill likes Mary gets one theta role, which is assigned by the predicate no. And then again in that sentence, when you look at the predicate like, it assigns two different theta roles to two different internal NP's, Bill and Mary. That is how a complex sentence will work. Adjuncts are optional, whereas complements and subjects are obligatory to a predicate. Do we understand this part? Can I take it for given? Subjects and complements are obligatory to a predicate, whereas the adjuncts are not. Look at the examples, when we say John put the book on the table on Friday. If we have a sentence, John put the book on the table. This is a good sentence, but if we say John put the book on Friday is not a good sentence. We understand this thing? This simply explains us how a compliment is an essential and obligatory part of a predicate, whereas adjuncts are not. The reason for us to discuss this is adjuncts are not included in the theta grid that I am going to show you. Now we can define theta roles. Theta roles are a bundle of thematic relations associated with a particular argument, where thematic relation is not what we mean by theta role. There is a difference between thematic relation and theta role. An argument can have many thematic relations, but can have only one theta role. This becomes clearer when we look at how it works. Look at this. We have a sentence, John gave flowers to Mary. In this we have three, we find three components which need to receive theta roles and we need to look at their thematic relations. One is John, the other is the flower and the last one is Mary. These are the thematic relations among them, among the different arguments. For example, John can be in relations to flower a source or an agent. Mary can be a recipient of according to this predicate. Mary can also be goal according to this predicate. However, when we look at thematic roles, it has just one. In relation to the other other arguments, we may find different names, but at once John gets one thematic role of an agent or a source. Flower gets one thematic role of theme and Mary gets one thematic role of recipient or goal with relation to the predicate. Looking at thematic roles, theta grid, if we look at the predicate like love, it must have two of them, experiencer and a theme. When both the arguments are met, both the arguments are present around the predicate, then we get the sentence as a good sentence. As you can see, the index explains this thing. When an argument is missing from the thematic grid, then the sentence is ungrammatical, which is the reason why this sentence John loves is not a good sentence is because it has theme missing from it. If we have more arguments available in a sentence which is not part of the thematic grid, that also results into ungrammaticality. For example, this predicate love requires only two arguments, have only two thematic roles, but if there is third one for which this predicate does not have a thematic role to assign, then this is a bad sentence. We say John loves Mary, Megan is a bad sentence because third one, Megan does not get a thematic role assigned in this. Relationship between syntactic structure, that is subject and complement and relationship between semantic roles is the following. When we talk about arguments of a predicate, how many arguments does this predicate have? Love, what is the total number of, is this a transitive verb or intransitive verb? Transitive one. How many arguments does it need? It should be clear. So, by now, how many arguments does this need? Don't look at thematic roles. Think about argument structure of a predicate that we have been discussing until yesterday. How many compliments do we have in intransitive verbs? For intransitive, can you please go back and look at your notes? The intransitive verbs have no argument, like no n p. Intranjitive verbs have no compliments, which means they have no argument. Transitive verbs have one and rightranjitive verbs have two. The implications of this is when we count the argument of a sentence or argument of a predicate, we do not count subjects in it. Now, the reason why I am talking about argument structure of a transitive verb, that is it requires one, with that I also want you to know that when we count these arguments within the predicate, we do not count subjects, because subject is a given thing with every sentence. We do not count subjects. When we are looking at thematic relations, then subjects are counted in thematic relations as well. So, assignment of thematic roles to subject is different from the predicate structure. When we look at thematic grid, inside thematic grid we have subjects included. Inside the argument structure, subjects are not included. Is this part making sense? Subjects are not part of the argument structure when we count the total number of arguments of a predicate, whereas when we are counting thematic roles assigned by a predicate, subjects are included in that. Is this making sense? So, how do we count it? What we mean by this question is when we are counting, we are only counting compliments. We are not counting subjects, because subject is outside the predicate. Therefore, in the predicate structure, subjects are not counted. Is this clear at least now? Why subject is not part of the compliment, part of the predicate structure is because it is outside the subject, outside the predicate, whereas when we are counting thematic relations, thematic roles assigned to different components of a sentence, we include subjects as well. So, when we say that a word like love has two thematic roles to assign, one will be assigned to the subject and the other will be assigned to compliment. Still, we maintain that a word like love has just one compliment, one argument, but it has two thematic roles to assign. An intransitive word will have how many compliments. Get this thing? Is this making sense now? Hope so. So, moving away, this is how a thematic grid looks like. For a sentence like John put the book on the table, it has three theta roles. The predicate is the word put, the it has one external theta role to assign that it assigns to the subject and two thematic roles within the predicate to the two different compliments. In a sentence, sometimes we have, sometimes we find sentences in which we do not have and we have n p's without a theta role. Predicate like rain. Is this a transitive or intransitive or rain? Intranjitive, snow. What is the subject of rain in this kind of a sentence? It rained, clouds rained. Is that a good sentence? English. Do clouds rain? When it falls, we find only water. Anyway, it is the subject, but in such sentences it does not have a thematic role. It only fulfills the requirement that a sentence must have a subject. When something is brought in to fulfill the requirement, that does not become part of thematic grid and in these types of sentences, subject n p's do not receive any theta roles because they are brought in only to fulfill the requirement and the requirement is we cannot have a sentence without a subject. We cannot say rained. We cannot say snowed. Therefore, we have to bring in something to say it rained or it snowed. That is all for today. I sincerely, sincerely request you to look at two things before I discuss case relations tomorrow. One and both are available. I do not remember page numbers from top of my head in the link of Lillian Hegman's book that vision has sent to you as the last email. Both these things are explained in great details at least in 20 pages with lots of examples. Please look at that and then we will be talking about C command, government and case relations next time that we meet. That is all. Thank you.


Welcome to JSA TV and JSA podcast the newsroom for telecom and data center professionals I'm Jean-Marc Lima and joining me today in London. I've got Alex rabbits managing director of the European data center association Alex thanks a lot for joining us We usually talk every year quite often, but this year has been quite an odd one I mean, how are you doing to stop it? It certainly has been odd, hasn't it? Yeah, no everything's good I mean, we're still we're still active obviously everything is now online So, you know, we haven't had any face-to-face meetings with anybody for a year, which is interesting But it's it's all okay. It's good Okay, well, let's hope that soon enough we can have a drink or just to catch up in face-to-face rather than just virtual But let's talk about the EU DCA I mean tell our viewers what the organization is what it does what your objectives are I'm just a bit of a brief Okay, so the EU DCA or the European data center association is a effectively trade association with data center operators And people associated with the industry in Europe We have really sort of three main activities The first is is lobbying so we lobby at a European level On matters relating to data sensors. That's quite important because people in the EU Who are making who are legislating? Against or against all four-day sensors very often are doing so without the knowledge of what a data center is Let alone how it works or when it's placed in society So actually just informing and educating and hoping to get them to understand what a data center is and it's important So the in the world in general is something really important Second though, we also do Marketing for our members So some of the smaller members might be a small operator in a you know, maybe an outlying country or somewhere like science for example I say that since I remember there just a small data center And they could never afford to market on a European wide or even a global scale So so we also market on behalf of our members So for some of our smaller members and I take for example an operator inside Chris We've got a small data center couldn't afford to market to have a whole of Europe or even a global scale So what we do is we've provided marketing platform for them where they're actually being seen in a much wider scale And that's obviously good for them We've had members who've picked up businesses from from from Conferences and events that we've done around the world that weren't even at those events, but ended up with business So that's that's kind of our second Second activity if you like our third is we act as a coordination point for the for the NTAs for the for the national trade associations Because they're here in Europe. We've got people 27 countries And each one might have a national trade association or some countries where they're where the data center market isn't quite so big Don't have one but what we do is we act for them Bring them together at a committee and then they can share the challenges and Issues with a phase at a national level And we can maybe help them with those as well. So that's kind of the third activity be like Okay, just a quick follow-up question on maybe point number one. I'm loving close to the you do you think with COVID? Brussels has got has become a bit more aware of what data center operators do or Do you think COVID has helped the industry to be recognized at the political level? I would say I'm totally honest I don't believe that it has It was what certainly I think what's has happened is COVID has made Brussels aware that the internet that video calling that That kind of thing is really important But but how that all happens. They don't really seem to have a grasp on they just kind of look at it So, you know, it happens in fact, it's not that So I don't think it's particularly healthy industry move forward, but it has at least raised awareness of something that's happening Okay, it's interesting. Well, but one of the things they've already accomplished this year and we only one month into 2021 It's a climate neutral data center packed Launched in January. I mean talk talk us through the the pact. What is the pact? What are the objectives? There's a lot of companies and associations involved as well organizations Given as overview of these news. Okay, so so the climate neutral data center packed What it was about was basically getting together and forming some kind of agreement between data center operators cloud operators across The well, I was gonna say across Europe. It is across Europe. But many of them are global players But and I'm agreeing a way forward to try to aim to achieve carbon neutrality by 2030 Why did we do it? Well, there's two reasons really first of all Well, I've got to say that we know data centers are in my opinion and most people who work in this industry's opinion They are incredibly good for the environment You know people people doing things online people shopping online And that's something's much better for the environment than people going out and buying things in cars and all that sort of things So so we are good for the environment But we're perceived very often as almost as priors because we use lots and lots of parents use lots Not so he we don't seem to do anything and it's all in a box in a building somewhere that nobody really understands so We needed to we needed to Come up with a with something which was easy for for non-industry members to understand About what we are doing to improve our environmental Status and improve the way that we are in the environment. So that was that was really tough The basis that packed came about Why is it important? Well, if we don't let if we don't self Self-regulate ourselves then trust me they will And and and they're and they're not people as I said They're not people who really understand what a data centre is or how critical it is yet They're gonna they're gonna start drafting laws that the will have to abide with which may be impossible So it's incredibly important that we got there and got their agreement. I mean they're coming with us Well, they're not they're not against us. They you know, they know what we're doing and they agree with us And they they're coming with us. So which is why there was actually a minister statement in the commissioner statement Sorry in the in the actual press release But you know, yeah, it was really important to get this doing and it's taken about six months to get to where we are Okay, well, I think it's a very good initiative for the industry because I mean we've had some That's going back publicity for our sector, especially last year with some documentaries from some of the nationals in the UK And yes, I mean there's a lot of good things happening on the climate front Especially the Nordics obviously the heat exchange And saving energy giving energy back to the community So it is quite interesting. But aside from climate and I really don't want to call climates a trend, but For the sake of the question here, what are the trends that you see in the marketplace across Europe happening this year? I think I think one of the things that that is obvious is the growth Growth It's a terrible thing to say that Kobe is actually quite good for the state center industry in some ways because it's driven growth You know, this driven demand for online and everything and everyone has gone online And that's great and it has really grown grown the industry which is fantastic So that's one one thing is that the market is growing It's also it's also still consolidating that's been going on for a few years and will go on for a few more years So, you know mergers acquisitions that happening and they can they can seem to happen I think what may happen is some of the smaller Players may end up getting swallowed up by the bigger players. I'm not sure whether that's necessarily a good thing But I think is what what's happening Um And then I guess the other thing that I think is is really interesting is we're beginning to mature We're not we're not mature, but we're beginning to mature And no, it's going to take a long time. We're teenagers now So, you know, it's it's it's going to take as long time to mature properly, but we are beginning to mature We're beginning to get away from this idea That the industry is completely manned by middle-aged men in gray suits We're also beginning to get away from the idea that everything we do is bleeding edge because the awful lot of the stuff We've been done for years, you know, I remember not very long ago Being at a conference where somebody announced that they were doing some adiabatic cooling in their data center And I wonder if it wasn't how bleeding as it was, you know, but adiabatic cooling was event by the Egyptians 4 000 years ago It's not quite leading edge. Um, and so really, um You know as an industry that we're now beginning to mature and we've been beginning to be able to to understand our place in society, you know, we are we are the foundation of the digital age We are incredibly important to everything that goes on even more so right now um, but but we need to find our place in society and Be seen to do the good that we do do And that's good and then they're sort of leapfrogging me to the next question, which is What is the USA going to be doing of the next six twelve months to help the industry find its place in society? Good question. So I think I think I think there's a Again, a few things we'll be doing will be continuing to lobby There's an awful lot of regulation coming out of Europe right now And we're looking at that regulation all the time reviewing it all the time. We're commenting. We're taking stuff back to the industry We're so we're we're taking that Legislation and we're making sure that it's appropriate to our industry So we'll continue to do that We're going to do we're still going to do some events this year. Um, they will probably be online events But we will do some events this year And we're partnering with with you know various organizations that we have done in the past It's important to our members that we are involved with those events because that's one of the ways in which they market their Their particular services to to to a wider audience. So we'll continue to do that this year What we're also going to try and continue to do Is continue to grow the udca to again For the udca to have its place in society You know, we're a relatively young organization We've made some incredibly important steps recently But we need to continue to move forward. We need to continue to move the industry forward And make sure that actually the industry is understood as being critical infrastructure and not something which is for For geeks or people who play games, um, you know, which is which is unfortunately the way we're seeing quite often Yes, well, I mean, I've been following the udca story for quite a while now and it's quite an interesting path Um, but I mean if our viewers wants to want to learn more about udca and even perhaps join the udca Where do they go? What's what's the process? How the how does that happen? If you also know more about the udca then you can go to our website. I was just udca.org There's a lot of information about what we do there who we are who our board members are There's also a joining form. So you can actually you can actually apply to become a member through through the website We do publish a weekly newsletter Which can be found at news dot udca.org And we also publish to our members a monthly newsletters, which is actually emailed out So but if you want to join that main list then then please join it again, you can do that through our website Or if anywhere has anything specific that they'd like to Like to say or do or ask then then you're free to email me Alex dot rabbits r.a.d would be ewts at udca.org Um, Alex rabbits managing director of the european data center association. Thank you so much for talking to us Um, and thank you to our viewers for also tuning in into jsa tv and jsa podcast And don't forget to check our social media channels as well. Um until next time happy networking


Well, moving on, the Northern Governors Forum has reiterated commitment to tackle delinquent insecurity, banditry and other challenges confronting the region. The 19 Governors gave the assurance at a forced inaugural meeting since the assumption into office in May at Kashim Ibrahim Government House in the Kaduna State, in Kaduna State, rather, not West Nigeria. The chairman of the forum, who is governor of Gombe State in Waihehaya, said the forum commiserated with the people of Tudan Biwi, victims of the unfortunate bombing incident by the Nigerian Army on intended operations. Therefore, addressing these security challenges is crucial to the overall development and well-being of our region. In this regard, all the 19 Northern Governors stand united in our commitment to addressing those challenges through enhanced collaboration with security agencies, strengthening local law enforcement, community engagement, and dialogue, and the adoption of modern technology, legal and administrative reforms, as well as addressing the root causes of insecurity, such as poverty, unemployment, and deepening social inequality. It is my firm belief that by leveraging on our collective strengths, we can design a regional development plan that is compatible with our present realities and future aspirations. Be commended to the federal government for tackling the insecurity. However, this stressed a need to intend to find effort in addressing the challenges. Governors of the 19 Northern States, while commending the federal government for a new vehicle in the fight against insecurity, we believe that more needs to be done to bring an end to the matters of kidnapping, boundary, criminal clashes, and terrorism, doubling our region. Security and development are intricately connected and we must approach them collectively. Without security, there will be no development because investors can only invest in an environment where their assets and resources are secure. In his remarks, the Cardona State Governor, Senator Obasani said that enough must develop common strategy and operational plan to tackle insecurity. We must develop a common strategy and operational plan to tackle insecurity. We must establish a common and controlled center to coordinate our joint effort against terrorists, bandits, kidnappers, and other criminal elements in our region. This effort at charting a new course for our region will come to nothing if we fail to provide strong leadership. We must therefore effectively mobilize our people around this common agenda, create the enabling environment, leverage the human and material resources of the region, deliver on our promises to the people, and at all times put the welfare of the people at the center of our developmental agenda for the northern region.


We are halfway through the truce between Israel and Hamas. On this special weekend edition of Daily Deep Brief, we'll be looking at what impact it's having on the ground. Saturday was the second day of the truce between Israel and Hamas. As agreed upon, Palestinian prisoners have been released in exchange for captives held by resistance groups. There's also been an increase in the amount of relief material entering the besieged enclave. However, all this will not be enough to even begin to address the impact of the brutal bombing over 48 days. We go to Abdul for some updates from the ground. Abdul, thank you so much for joining us. We are recording its day two of the truce which has been achieved after nearly 48 days of very brutal bombing by Israel, also a ground offensive. So maybe first, can you take us through what has transpired so far in these two days? On the first very day, there were, on Friday, of course, there were 39 Palestinian prisoners released from the Israeli jail. Most of those prisoners were women and children, and none of them were arrested post October 7th. So this basically shows some kind of arrangement which Israel has where the Palestinians are kept for an indefinite period without any trial, without any charge. And basically this release shows that particular status of the Palestinians being, you can say, in some way what activists claim, kidnapped, and kept in captivity for long. So that one, in exchange, 13 Israeli prisoners were released. Sorry, Israeli who were kept by Hamas were released on Friday. And apart from that, Hamas also released around 10 Thai citizens and one Filipino person. So this is on the level of what was the terms and condition of the ceasefire agreed between Hamas and Israeli government. It also basically led to pouring in a crucial, very important relief material around 200 trucks entered Gaza through Rafa border, through Egypt. And apart from that, of course, this was the first time in the last 48 days when there was no bombing across Gaza. And some of the people who basically were forced out from the northern Gaza and were living in the southern and central Gaza have now basically moved back to their homes, whatever is remaining. And there are pictures coming from those places which have been completely destroyed. So the extent of destruction caused by Israeli bombing in the last 48 days basically also became very clear when the pictures came from those areas where people moved and some of the people claimed that whatever they had left behind, nothing was visible. Everything is destroyed in northern Gaza in particular. Apart from that, there are also talks of extending the ceasefire for further days. And I think as we have discussed before on this very show, Israel has claimed that every 10 prisoners, every 10 captive released from Hamas will basically bring one extra day of ceasefire. So that is all which has happened on the first day of the ceasefire. Right. I believe the exchange is expected to continue on the second day as well, which is Saturday as we are recording. Yeah. Today, though there is a confusion about the exact number of Palestinians being released from the Israeli captivity, some are claiming that 39 prisoners, same as on the first day, would be released. Most of them will be women and teenage kids, young boys. But some of them are also claiming that there will be 42 Palestinians who will be released. So exact numbers are not clear, but anywhere between 39 to 42 Palestinians will be released from the Israeli jails. And in exchange, Hamas is expected to release the same number of Israelis as it released on the first day. So 13 people Israelis will be released by Hamas. Apart from that, of course, the number of trucks which need to reach, which are allowed to reach Gaza from Rafa border will be, of course, it is 200. But as per the latest report, only 137 trucks are permitted so far to reach Gaza. So yeah, that is the condition on the second day. Tim, the recording is out. I think we'll have more clarity on the exact number of both prisoners as well as relief material. But Abdul Kadi, maybe also take us to what are some of the kind of responses and analysis that have sort of come out in the aftermath of this truce because especially from the global community, also the question of whether this can actually be pushed towards a lasting ceasefire? Well, let's talk a bit about the overall situation, humanitarian situation inside Gaza after the war. Of course, the bombing has stopped. But that does not mean the destruction caused by the Israeli bombing in the last 48 days has basically created a very worse humanitarian condition. According to the UN, around 2 million people, imagine 2.2 million is the overall population of Gaza, 2 million people need food aid now. And the 200 truck, number of trucks which are allowed to go across Rafa border will not be able to, is not able to kind of fulfill the needs, all the basic needs which Gazans need at this hour. And that basically creates a question mark on the overall efficiency of the overall humanitarian aid delivery inside Gaza. This basically also means the number of diseases which is out breaking. As per the UN report, there are already different kinds of water bond diseases because there is no water supply in the region for almost 48 days. And electricity fuel, everything is missing. Whatever food and medical aid which reached in last two days, of course, as I said before, is not sufficient to fulfill the needs of it. So that basically prolongs and basically creates a possibility of kind of humanitarian situation becoming worse despite the fact that there is, there is not going to be much bombing at least for next two days as per the agreement. As far as the responses from the overall world community is concerned, of course, there are attempts made by some countries to kind of prolong the ceasefire beyond the four days and the condition also allows, which Israeli government has said, that if the 10 prisoners are released, sorry, 10 captives are released from Amar's site, they will extend it for one more day. But apart from that, there has been no concrete proposal as yet in the public, which basically talks about the possibility of extension of ceasefire beyond the four days which was part of the regional ceasefire deal. There are also basically attempts made by Qatar and other regional players to basically convince both the parties to come and have started a longer, a talk for a longer peace. But again, that has not happened. And therefore, in fact, Israeli, if you follow, if you try to see what is happening inside Israel, there has been very strong opposition to this, even this four days ceasefire and Israeli government at this moment is in a very, you can say, not in a situation to kind of look for, because for their own compulsions inside the Israeli politics to kind of extend the ceasefire beyond four days or whatever extra days the release of the additional hostages will bring in. So overall situation in the public, whatever information is available that as of now, there is no news about any extension of the ceasefire beyond these four days. But also finally, I guess it's important to say that the key reason there is no pressure about this is the fact that much of the international community has, especially the global north, we talked about this before, and the US specifically has refused to use any of its leverage to pressurize Israel into going for a ceasefire, whereas it is countries in the global south, especially the BRICS countries, that's one platform which has, of course, taken a very strong stand in support of a ceasefire. Exactly. So only the BRICS countries and extended G20 meeting in which also US did not take any position or all the most of the Western countries did not take any position, but the developing world in both in G20 and in BRICS have strongly spoken in favor of immediate ceasefire and starting a longer process, peace process in the region. Because that is one consistent stand which only the developing countries and what we call in general the global south has taken. If you see the responses coming from Spain and Belgium, from Europe, these are the only two European countries which strongly have spoken in favor of ceasefire and kind of criticized Israeli aggression in Gaza. Even the responses, if you see, have basically said that any such statements made by, say, Prime Minister of Spain or the Belgian leadership would basically, the kind of aggressiveness the Israel has shown comes from the confidence that it has the backing of the US and other strong, powerful European countries. And until that pressure remains, of course Israel is in no need to kind of look for any long-term solution to the conflict in the region. Thank you so much for that analysis. Nonetheless, it's difficult to not notice the fact that after Netanyahu and Israeli leaders made such tall claims at the beginning of the offensive, the truth itself in some ways has shown that has shown the failures of their strategy. Unfortunately, thousands of Palestinians are losing their lives in this process. We'll come back to you next week as well for more analysis on this developing situation, especially what happens after ceasefire.


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So let's get right to it Together what makes Jenna Ortega the perfect offspring for Lydia D. She showed up and just Okay, so you saw it right there, right? You saw his reaction. Oh boy. She's good Listen, Michael's a pretty stoic dude, right? He he's not he's not what you would call hyper expressive like Al Pacino or you know You know pick your pick your pick your you know your your actor that's just kind of over the top all the time This guy's very stoic very chill. So he's like, oh boy. She's good All right. All right. We're we're taking we're taking your word for a brother, man We're taking your word for it. So let's let's see what the tone was and just slipped in Immediately knew what the tone was and just slipped in like she does that every day. Oh, yeah, she's she's really special Okay She immediately knew what the tone was she slipped right into it She's special the tone the Beetlejuice world the Tim Burton world the Michael Keaton The Michael Keaton Beetlejuice why no no writer She knew the tone and if you're watching it even if you're just paying attention to our videos and cover in our coverage of Jen Ortega, you're seeing her step out of her comfort zone and doing these small independent dramas Finest kind Miller's girl to now the bigger ones. This is going to be a huge film for Jenna She's already done the screen movies. She's she says. Yeah. Yeah, Vasta comes on screen. She did X She's got the horror down. This is horror comedy drama. She can do it all. I really believe I really believe that one day she's going to be a oscar winning award actress. She's that good. She's got it in her Here and we'll wrap it up right now Don't want to waste any more of your time. Don't forget one more. Don't forget again two things subscribe here to this channel and Get to our calm the latino slant calm and subscribe to that newsletter Let's hear from Jenna how she feels about Beetlejuice Beetlejuice out september 6 And then we'll wrap it up. Let's take it from there. Let's do that. And again, this is et exclusive You know, most of the time I don't care about these things But I respect Keaton and I respect or they got and I love what they had to say really special I mean That's just really it That's just really it guys is you have your two leads excited about the work They've created for the audience for us how refreshing is that every actor should be talking moving And thinking like these actors No agendas You're on the red carpet. I don't want to hear it. I just want to hear about your work What does it what what makes the the gen ortega michael keaton tick as actors? I don't need to know about your private life. I definitely don't need to know about your political social stances When I'm going to a film when I'm uh You know in in taking my entertainment other areas of my life. Maybe Maybe But yeah, that's the news guys. I want to know what you think right now. What are your thoughts? michael keaton Thumbs up on gen ortega. He's really excited like again.