Good morning, everyone I'm speaking it's very weird because I'm speaking to a very empty room and hopefully there are lots of you online but I'll pretend that you're all here and I can see you so I'm Victoria Coleman and I've got Toby Negrin here with me we're gonna do our best to try and answer some of the questions that were left on the table during the Deaf Summit Q&A that we did and of course any other questions that come up today during the discussion we'll be more than happy to take those as well. While it's lonely here I know we have an active IRC line going so you know we'll get started by answering the top four questions that emerged on the list since January but feel free to use IRC to interject or ask questions outside the floor. So looking at these four, yeah. Thank you Victoria just a just a quick note we can't talk about the turkey situation on advice of our communications and legal team it's ongoing we're working hard but you know we can't we can't comment publicly on it so just just a heads up. Alright the first question that I have on the list here is for WMF development teams what is the right balance between pushing on work versus seeking and supporting volunteer contributions and it's obviously a little bit of a loaded question you know perhaps the balance has not always been right in the past. I think what drives what the deaf teams do inside the foundation is our annual plan so we just spent like felt forever maybe like three months trying to decide what our priorities should be and on the basis of those priorities the teams within the foundation certainly within technology and I'm sure is between product as well have come up with a set of things that they need to get done in order to serve the movement best. I will say from my perspective one thing that is different in the way that we did our planning and technology this year is that aids programmatic in the sense that everything that we do is a program versus a team effort so there's a this programs tend to be aggregates of work that comes from a variety of teams not just one team. We also have made a commitment to recognize what platforms we build, run and operate within tech and that will help us in figuring out what the roadmap ought to be for those platforms. Once we have this roadmap then this is something that you can communicate of course to the developer community outside and they can say well I agree with that or I don't agree with that or I would like to contribute to this or that so it will give us a vehicle through which we can have conversations that hopefully will bring us in much more harmony with the developer community outside and also allow us to leverage their hard work towards common objectives. Maybe Toby you have something to add to that? Yeah this is a super interesting question and I think there are kind of two examples of sort of the nature of how this works and how this might work in the future and I think the first is sort of the sub-bottom of the community tech team which is don't dash the hopes and dreams of volunteer developers which is one of the things I like. I know in the past there's been sort of a feeling that when the foundation gets involved in a project the foundation sort of tries to own that project and I think that's something whether it's true or not is something that we're very deliberately moving away from. One of the things that community tech found when they first did their wishlist survey was that there were already volunteer developers working on some of these things and some of these volunteers just needed you know a little bit of technical advice a little more resources to actually bring these things to a conclusion and I think that the internet archive bot was probably you know that the or the deadlink bot was was a good example of how this relationship can really work and can be the proverbial win-win for both the community you know for ultimately the editors and readers but also the technical community and the foundation and then the the other thing I wanted to call out is sort of a longer arc and that's around some of the new readers work where we did user research we've talked about this a lot in other venues but we found that offline access was really important and we also found that there were a lot of community developers and and other folks working on the offline problem and so we've done a lot of things at least three different things the first is we started working very closely with some of these offline community folks such as Kiwik such as Doc James and Wikimad and seeing how we can support each other better there have been certain certain products that the foundation particularly the offline content generator that the foundation has has taken upon itself to to fix and replace with a better system and then finally there is sort of sharing the the sharing the the research that we have with other folks and I guess partnerships has also been involved sort of sharing the resources that we have with other folks to find on places where both community and foundation offline products can actually be used such as schools and other heavily other areas without a lot of connectivity so I think these sort of you know these examples sort of illustrate I think different ways the foundation in the community can work together to benefit everybody thank you I don't know if there any questions the IRC on this one doesn't look like it so the next question do we have a plan to bring our developer documentation to the level of the top internet website a major free software project and I again I take that first and I'll pass it down to Toby on on the technology department side what we're actually doing this year is investing a little bit in a tech rider most of that most of that effort to most of the cycles will be invested in the Wikimedia Cloud services team because that's where of course you know many many of our volunteers you know a cut the teeth and also built many of their solutions and I know it's a particular pain point so we will be as part of our annual plan for next year will be investing in a tech rider to help us move that forward but I know that you know beyond that there's been a lot of activity going on within the product team especially even this past week and I'd like to ask Toby to give us a little bit of an insight into that yes so we had a media wiki documentation day on Friday which was was really awesome and we had a lot of we had a lot of both community and foundation work on documentation so yeah I think you know between hiring professionals to help with the documentation and being more more I guess organized and mindful about working with the community ourselves to increase the documentation I think it's going to get better in the next year as far as sort of you know the quality of a top of a top website I think you know the quality is pretty is pretty up and down but I think we are you know it is it is something that we're working on is it is something that I expect to improve in the next in the next year all right question number three there's just a bit of talk on the IRC about the tricky situation it is the tricky turkey situation the fact that Wikipedia and all of our sites are currently blocked in the country of turkey all right so I I see there's a question there from Rachel about why we cannot comment and the reason why we cannot comment as Toby said is that there is an ongoing legal process that the foundation is part of in in Turkey to try and find a resolution to this blocking of our site so it's we've been advised by legal to be really careful about the remarks that we make because the major part lies not process all right so if we move to the third question this is about how volunteers can can influence what we do how can volunteers bring ideas and influence the WMF annual plants and goals the sense being when the plants are actually published it's kind of late and I sympathize with that I mean this is the first time that I've been through the annual planning process and certainly it's intensive it takes a long time and I know by the time like like we were finished with it everybody was just so happy just to put it behind us right so it was like oh this is done but it does have the the side effect that it presents the community with more or less what we're more or less a kind of finalized artifact in some sense right so we've done a lot of work within the foundation and the teams to decide you know what we should be working on what matters the most this year we had lots of you know conversations about trade those are going to make and so on and then you know how it comes I do understand the need to engage the community more broadly earlier I think we will have a number of opportunities to do that and I'm thinking specifically when it comes to the technology the volunteer community study next year of course we will have a different version of the depth summit that went in previous years so in January of next year you know we'll get together to talk about specifically the technology needs of the movement strategy because by then we will have a movement strategy and that would be a thing of an ideal opportunity for the community outside to help us figure out how we should be prioritizing and what it is that they think they can do in collaboration with us to meet this overall kind of technology goals that will set ourselves as a result of having a strategy a movement strategy so that's one kind of concrete way that I think we can engage the other way of course again is through the roadmaps that we hope to build in technology if you know it takes a mediocrity right if there's no road map like if you don't know what the team is thinking about doing how can you even influence them today you can influence them somewhat through the architecture committee work but there isn't you know a stated plan that you can either contribute to or disagree with and just by making these things public I think we'll create a forum where people can engage with and contribute ideas solutions and perhaps different opinions as well maybe Toby would like to take that as well yeah first of all I'd like to invite people from the community to take part in the strategy process Catherine has has shared a lot of information on Wikimedia L we can also relay relay relay these links we had a really cool strategy session at Wikimedia conference a couple of I guess last month and this was it was well organized it was was well facilitated and we got a live really useful input from the from the community which will be woven into our strategic goals because this is really where it begins sort of setting these high level goals and I think this is you know if there's something that you really care about trying to map it back to a strategic goals to a set of users to to a specific impact this is this is the best this is the best way at a high level to do it because you know we this is how we plan right we have a specific we have specific impact in mind and then we develop features to try to have that desired impact like like that's how it works I know it always hasn't been super transparent I know it hasn't always been been easy to get involved and we're really hoping that this can that that these kinds of of relationships and pathways can be can we can be better over the next few years in reading we've tried we've had I think more than 20 community consultations both on the strategic side and on more around features and we've gotten I think middling response but it's been one of the things that we've been really thinking we've been really trying to think a lot about because generally at the sort of strategic level to impact level where a lot of these these plans begin we haven't gotten a lot of feedback and that's not you know it's sometimes it's just hard to to think at that level when you care about it when you care about a specific thing the best feedback that we've gotten has been when we've been specific like here's a specific feature here's a specific treatment that we're interested in doing but also proactive also really so being specific and early has been where we've gotten the most useful feedback and so we've been you know we've been looking at what's worked and what hasn't worked in the past we've been talking to community folks to try to figure out the exact model but you know as of right now start with strategy also we've tried to you know we are pretty good about publishing our draft quarterly goals again we don't get the kind of feedback that I wouldn't say looking for but we haven't gotten a lot of feedback and sort of you know understanding sort of the practical nature about how we solicit feedback how we incorporate feedback is important there I guess no questions on that from the IRC so the fourth and final question that I have here is about media wiki what vision do you see for media wiki and volunteer developers five years from now well I I don't really know what it will look like five years out but one of the things one of the things that I was able to do I had the opportunity to to meet with some third party media wiki developers and users at the enterprise media wiki conference last month I think maybe about six weeks ago and you know one of the interesting things the factoids that I learned there is that actually more than half of the media wiki commits today happen from people outside the foundation people that don't work here so you know it's a remarkable kind of success story of an open source project and no matter what else happened my hope is that five years out we will still have a very vibrant open source community and the community of volunteers that help us you know build this you know really important kind of piece of software for the for the movement having said that of course that's not gonna it's not gonna just happen without us engaging with the community of volunteers more deeply and helping understand their needs as well as the broader needs as we see them in the movement and will hope to do a lot of this coordination certainly through the roadmaps that I talked about but also through another vehicle that we're putting together which is a revamped version of the architecture committee so many of you I'm sure had an opportunity to work with them in the past to write rfcs type rfcs being reviewed and perhaps worked on and resolved by them we are actively now working to you know strengthen the way that the architecture committee works and also broaden its set of responsibilities it's likely that we will rename it to the technology committee because we want to we want to have senior people senior technically with the foundation engage across the board and the technologies that we need to deliver on a mission as well as what they do today which is mostly media wiki so you can you can expect to see an expanded scope and in the architecture committee but that will also continue to be a vehicle through which we engage the community outside and of course the community outside can be represented on that committee they can be represented today and that will not change so this is like one this is an organizational if you like a response to this question but then there's a substantive question which is you know do we go going forward continue to rely very significantly on if on what is a fairly monolithic code base or do we move more into a kind of service oriented solution as you all know today we have both we want both a pretty robust a substantial code base around media wiki and then we also are investing in services so one of the kind of technical choices that's coming down the pike for us in the next six months or so will be precisely at which way we decide to go what do we factor and when and for what purposes it's something that i think would make sense for us to wait to decide on until such time as we really do have guidance from the movement strategy but it's nonetheless one of the big questions that i as the cto have on my plate to engage the community with going forward this this coming year and there are pluses and minuses of course in both in both solutions one thing that i think it's obvious to everybody is that the kinds of services that we rely on to deliver our experience are not things that we can build ourselves not all of them search been an obvious one right so and there are many others machine translation is the other one it's it's impossible to think of a future where we don't build a software solution to deliver a mission around that does not allow the easy incorporation of services that others built with that maybe i'll pass it on to toby and we can hear his thoughts on that yeah i think i'd like to like it to be easier like i totally agree with everything that that victoria says but i just think from a developer perspective it should be easier it should be easier to write it should be easier to write code it should be easier to write services it should be easier to deploy art to consume wikimedia services media wiki services should be easier to test i mean we have a very interesting challenge in that media wiki has a substantial third party use substantial community development and also supports one of the biggest websites on the planet this is this is hard um and and it's hard but it's also part of the magic of this place and it's something that we need to be mindful about continuing to support and i think we just need to to you know the architecture issues are are critical but i think if we are to you know truly continue to embrace our community we do have to make it easier to contribute to a site like wikipedia and i know there are people other than me who have a lot better developed ideas around this and how we might do this um but that's you know that's what i think if if if this is something that we want and it is then we need to think about how we can do it a little bit better i couldn't i couldn't agree more right um of course as engineers we don't always think you know like easy comes first like uh we do stuff and then oh it would have been nice to if we made that easy so it's good to have voice of wisdom like to to to think about creating a platform that people can easily contribute to and uh you know have you know easy kind of you know commit cycles and so on and that's something that we should definitely take into into account um i just happened to look behind my back here on the IRC and there was a question about where is the data coming from regarding the number of commits uh so i'll be happy to share that i don't have it right here with me uh this was given to me by the media wicked stakeholders group um some of you may be aware i think all of you are aware that there are many third-party users of the media wicked software many of them are involved in supporting enterprises many of them in the government so there is a very active group of contributors and developers uh and in fact it was them that organized this enterprise media wicked conference uh i asked them while i was there for this information and this is what they produced and like i say i'll be happy to share that offline with with you all um so do we have any more questions anything that anybody wants to raise anything that came on the IRC while we're speaking that i didn't see folks in San Francisco there is one question on IRC which is that um i feel as if WMF development is under advertised and user users usually have to seek it out to learn how to start volunteer development how could this be addressed it's a good question um a number um a number of options exist but i i think that the primary vehicle that we use to to bring people to the you know to the coast here is through the hackathons the hackathons are first and foremost events where we make the tools and software you know visible and available to new developers and also there are places where we actively support them and help them become familiar and begin to contribute and there's of course a hackathon coming up next week uh what you will typically see there is of course the community engagement people in particular uh kim gillsteam uh who saw uh i guess purpose is precisely the help um empower the volunteer community the volunteer development community uh they see the hackathons as the primary tool for uh engaging people and empowering them you will also see brian davis there are they the the head of our uh wikimedia cloud services team and brian and his team make it a point of attending any all hackathons they can lay their hands on precisely to be there and be able to support um new people that want to to onboard so this is a kind of a critical piece in our strategy for bringing new developers to the platform and making it a little easier although not quite as easy perhaps to be with with aspire to and the rest of us with aspire to so if you if you go to the if you go to wikipedia it's it's relatively i wouldn't say super clear but it's pretty clear that if you want to edit the site you can if you want to make changes to the content you can um around december in english-speaking countries it's pretty obvious how you might contribute to contribute money to wikipedia but it seems to me that we don't make it clear uh that you could actually contribute to the software itself and that also might be you know an interesting thing to think about you could even go to so far as to see like if you are reading the article on media wiki maybe we might actually show you you know a way to get involved on the technical side um you know i think we're thinking a lot about um building our communities and broadening our communities and the technical community is is is just you know it's just like editors it's just like donors in the sense that you know you need to reach people who might want to be involved and you need to provide them with pathways for getting into the organization you can do things in an offline fashion like through the hackathons and through the editathons and and other ways of of becoming part of the community but you can also do it through the online uh through online mechanisms and this might be something that that we could think uh a little bit more about in the future so um to to to this point maybe uh if brian davis or brian is there maybe i'll ask brian just to to comment a little bit because now brian is a beautiful deck that describes what wiki media cloud service is all about and the very first slide is that uh we should make uh making a contribution to the code base is easy as writing an article so i think he is absolutely kind of you know um has the the right set of objectives and maybe brian you can share a few thoughts about how you see that um that happening now with a new team how it's going to be different how do you think from your point of view we can empower people um and help them make contributions in an easier way sure um i mean there's there's no there's no magic answer right um we're we're not flipping some switch and and everything that has always been annoying is going to be better tomorrow um but i i think the the formation of of the cloud services team which is rearranging what was called the the labs team under tech ops and um the role that i previously had as uh kind of a tool labs developer liaison and community tech team um into a proper top level team in the technology department at the foundation i think that really you know shows that that this is making it easier to to contribute technically and and specifically supporting um with the compute and data service needs that that developers need to make a technical process on wiki better is something that the foundation is is putting you know putting weight behind it's it's not just uh idle talk um in in the really grand scheme of things there's some uh there's a there's a presentation that that uv gave at uh uc berkeley i think uh last fall up on on comments that people can find that that talks about democratizing programming by bringing the wiki way to software development and i think in the the really really long term those are the things that we're excited about um working on tools like quarry and pause that um get rid of a lot of the technical complexity you don't need ssh keys and you don't need to know hopefully a whole lot about how the unix command line works and instead bringing you know some nice web-based software um to bear where people can can just get to the meat of the problems that they want to solve which is digging through the data and finding the important bits and and putting that back to work on the wikis yeah i think brian also has some some really good ideas about building communities around specific pieces of functionality um it may be hard to contribute it may be harder to contribute to media wiki harder than it was 10 years ago but there's lots of other software that runs wikipedia um lots of bots for example and lots of services uh that those bots can leverage that might be an easier path to becoming a media wiki developer sati wenti of mics so many mics um this might be a silly question um and i wasn't here for the first part so feel free to tell me that you already answered this as i listened to what you were saying just for the half i was here for it struck me that i actually don't know what you mean when you say the community like sometimes i understand you're talking about those who are like a technical developer who wants to contribute to media wiki you victoria we're talking about the people who are actually using media platform to run their own instances um i think now brian was kind of talking about people who may not want to contribute to media wiki but have other skills that they can perhaps contribute in the future um there's obviously editors there's obviously readers it seems like the scope of your community is really broad um and so i'm wondering i guess the first part of my question is so when you say the community what are you really referring to and then the second part is that um when you talk about community engagement right whether that's on annual plan or feature rollout or product design like how do you engage with this pretty diverse and expansive set of people yeah so um you're absolutely right and they uh the community that we that we address here is indeed very diverse and has different objectives i would say that when i say community like when i came to this meeting i wasn't thinking about editors i wasn't thinking about contributors i i wasn't thinking about people that use the end product of our work i was thinking about the people that power the engine that delivers that work um and those people are of course are some of them inside the foundation some of them are outside the foundation making uh individual contributions perhaps the media wiki perhaps to other pieces of code that we have there could be people that use instances as you say and and even though that might appear to be not particularly related to what we do matter of fact it is because oftentimes they take features that we build and exercise them to scale so they do a great deal of testing for us that we couldn't possibly do inside uh so it's all part of a um of a kind of flywheel if you like there are also people as you point out that come to us because they have other projects that they want to work on so they come to labs for example where we give them many resources to build out their ideas we give them access to data which is gold for them um so what do we do that well we do that because uh being part of an open source community for us is fundamental in the way that we see how the foundation builds and delivers on its mission so it could be that somebody who comes today in in cloud services and you know builds a bot that they use for something else and becomes familiar with the with the tools and what we do tomorrow might be a volunteer that will come in and build a feature for us that we might really need in a project somewhere else so we have a pretty kind of pluralistic view about how all this um how this community comes together um I think your second question is also a question that came uh from the folks in um in the community um I don't think there's a perfect way for us to do that given how diverse it is but some of the things that we can do are for example liais with special interest groups so if you take the media weekly stakeholders group they're the people that uh do enterprise users so they have one point of view they can come to us with a set of things that they want and we may say well you know these two things we can do because they're consistent with what the community needs these other things we cannot do it gives us a pathway to have this um this this conversations we couldn't have that discussion even without having a roadmap of our own so that you know because like if you don't know where you're going one thing is for sure all roads will take you there and I I think just by like putting a stake in the ground we can now have some negotiations and some conversations around uh what what works what fits what doesn't fit um there'll be any ideas yeah I think in in general we are becoming far more mindful about this term the community which is Victoria said it's it's a nebulous term and you know if you write a bot that fixes grammar mistakes on the projects are you part of the technical community are you part of the editor community are you part of both but you know these are these are these are interesting these are these are super interesting problems and I think that part of why it's fun to work here but you know for for product we worked with um we had a project to try to understand our audiences better and I think there's there are a few posters around and I think you've you've seen it it was in our annual plan I think this is the first step like Victoria pointed out this is the first step like let's just figure out what the various audiences are and then the next step is to start figuring out okay which are the most important this year which are the most important next year what are their particular strategies that we can use to reach those audiences and to grow those audiences so you know hopefully that answers that you know that it's a little bit more color around the second around the second of your questions but to the to the first it's primarily the technical community that I feel but even within the technical community there are various facets and and you know and just to sort of wax a little put more poetically here like sort of the fact that there is a huge research community around wikipedia is awesome the fact that there is a huge you know developer community like these are like these are great and hopeful things and um you know the but but there are sort of basic rules about building these communities that we can use to to to encourage the growth their growth also I think um it's kind of great because in some cases we'll have experience with kind of methods that work in this particular case um you know we'll have kind of a great um great success I think in community tech where I know for a long time there was a kind of great deal of anxiety about how do we listen to the community how to prioritize what they have to say the community tech team has done a spectacular job in collecting these ideas and working with the community to prioritize and then begin delivering on them one of the things one of the ideas that was floated at Dev Summit back in January was to create a developer wish list and this is something that I think makes a ton of sense and it's something that you know hopefully we can also put in you know interaction and hopefully emulate the success of the community tech team has seen so far that that could be a very direct way of influencing features and so on it's something that Kim's team is thinking about in community engagement and something that will definitely be more than happy to support in both in tech and product I'm sure there's one question um in the long term does WMF try to absorb parts of the community into itself or does it benefit WMF to leave the community as is there's there's an interesting book called Good Degrade in the Social Sector and it's only like 25 pages yeah and it's actually it's it's definitely worth it I mean it's a it's a it's a business book for sure but I think one of the most interesting parts of it is it it sort of takes like commonly held sort of business practices and applies them to non-profit or community oriented organizations and I think one of the most interesting metaphors in this book was helping see the WMF not at the top of a hierarchy but at the center and so I would like to see moving forward much more cooperation between the WMF and these community community institutions whether they be chapters whether they be individual developers whether they be events and really try to figure out how we can work together to benefit the benefit our benefit that the project in general new readers in our in our work with with qx and wikimid I think we're starting to see some ways of how this can work community tech Brian's work with labs just in general work with with developers but I really feel like like we want to make the whole greater than the sum of the parts by working together I couldn't agree more so I haven't read the book and I should read the book especially since 25 pages I can I can do that but I I just want to quote I think it was Bill Gates who said it doesn't matter how many smart people you have inside your organization there always gonna be many more smarter people outside and that is true for companies it certainly is true for the movement I mean in my mind and I think you know historically the foundation has been an enabler for the community without the community of both you know of contributors and you know developers I don't think the foundation would have been anywhere near as successful as it has been in bringing knowledge to knowledge to people so in my mind it's like it's absolutely essential if the if we lose you know patch or the support of community both on the contribution side and the kind of developer side I don't think we will succeed an objective so for us maintaining and empowering that community is absolutely vital I mean of that I have no doubt and I think you will see that also reflected in the movement strategy directions that are already emerging having a healthy vibrant well-connected community to the mission is absolutely essential thing for our success any other questions from the room doesn't seem to be anything on the IRC unless you see something if not maybe we'll take a bow we'll thank you all for maybe you all should take a bow thank you for joining us and we'll continue this conversation I what I would like to do and we'll continue working with with Kimstein community engagement is to keep the conversation the dialogue open this is just one of the tools that we have I would like to have a perpetual kind of list of questions matter of fact and then you know answer the ones that are most popular or like the most prominent people's minds in the regular cadence it took us a little while like to get to this point I mean we it was January when we did the last one today as I guess May I'd like to do them maybe like every two months just to be you know a bit more responsive something for us to to work towards the more frequent I think we'll make these exchanges the better off we're going to be in terms of both alignment communication and success at the end of the day so with that thank you all both here and those of you remotely watching and listening both now and in the future thank you all thank you


Several people on my channel recommended I watch blood red sky on Netflix first off. That's a terrible title. It's very generic It's hard to remember blood red sky. What does that even mean after watching the movie? I figured it out Secondly people recommended me watch things on YouTube is a very dangerous game I have no idea how to take it it could either be because the movie is so Brutally bad and they want to hear me just complain about it for you know 10 15 minutes or it's actually Legitimately good actually legitimately. That's a good use of a sentence there and since it's Netflix I was thinking it was gonna be the former I was also told not to watch any trailers for this movie so I didn't I went in raw dog and I have to say I liked it Quick note right out of the gates. This is a foreign film Kind of it's in subtitles the whole time, but they speak English 85% of the time it's very weird you have all these options and the default is I believe it's German with English subtitles or you can go to English, but it's dubbed really badly Why did they dub over English speaking parts is what I don't understand It was very weird We spent like five minutes jumping between the toggles not really understanding what was going on why English was being translated as English I just I don't I had to move past it movies about two hours long that time I think was appropriate it could have been trimmed down a little bit But I'm not complaining really the movie is a bit of a slow burn for the first I'd say half hour You're not really sure where things are going But once it flips the script all bets are off and and the thing is a ton of fun The visuals are really cool Even when they do this kind of fakie outside camera shot of the plane as it's going through the sky It has a surreal vibe to it that I think adds to the overall tone of the movie I really enjoy films and stories in general where they take one central concept and then they throw something else right into it It I know I'm being very vague, but again, I'm trying to I'm trying to not spoil anything And I don't even know how many clips I'll show of the the trailer even in fact I'm gonna shut up already about it the bottom line is everything kind of worked for me in this It's not a it's not a perfect movie by any means But it did entertain the hell out of me I could watch it again and enjoy it for different reasons and I do recommend you check it out in Netflix If that sounds like your cup of tea, I know I again, I know I didn't say much, but whatever I'm gonna give the hunt for blood red October 12 out of 15 bloody red martinis The these scores are nonsense. All right. I'm heading into spoiler territory now So if you don't want this movie ruined and you think you're gonna watch it You can you can walk away from this video if you don't care about spoilers You can stick around this fine and if you've seen the movie then you really want to know what I thought So I'm gonna I'm gonna break it down a little bit. I really enjoyed the twist that this woman was a vampire I knew something was wrong with her obviously right away. She was acting very sus She had the shades on and the wig she's got her kid buying the passports and doing the whole thing for or checking And I guess not buying the passports just just checking into the flight. Why I don't I don't know how to talk I apologize. I don't know the talk. I thought maybe she was a spy under cover I thought maybe she had you know cancer because she's talking to the doctor.  I thought okay. We got something supernatural Did we did she get abducted by aliens? Is it an alien thing because that would be cool We do get a flashback that they go back to a few times in the film Where they're you know she and her husband and kid are driving in like a winter storm and the car breaks down and the husband goes for help I instantly thought okay. Did the guy just like straight-up ditch his family? Is he like I'm out.  I also love the dude who's kind of like a joker character He's a wild card.   I I don't Maybe you're disappointed that I liked it and you wanted to hear me complain about it But I ate it up. I thought it was good stuff and a very special shout out to the kid in this movie Who's this who's the main protagonist her mom's the vampire?   Okay, these vampires aren't pretty and sparkly.  It could have had an artsy ending It could have had a cliffhanger ending. It could have had a a dark disturbing ending Which since this movie was so down throughout the film since there was so much cake, you know carnage and depressing moments This kid needed a win and thankfully he gets one and I mean as much as you know A win that he could get I guess again I recommend it if you like movies that are a little little kooky little a little off the beat and path Thanks again for watching the video if you really enjoy what I'm doing Maybe think about becoming a patreon over at patreon.com slash Adam does movies I even have a dollar tier, you know, and you get access to an exclusive show over there You can join me right here on YouTube with the join button as well I think that that membership starts at 499 the little gesture goes a long way and I would really appreciate it I'm putting in the work for you. 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Hello, it's Anthony Chung here from Amplify Trading in London and due to I would say popular demand, I've been asked to do a lecture or a conversation about how I use Twitter for the benefit of trading and monitoring the news. Now it's a question I get asked a lot from a number of different people all the way from kind of institutional level traders, desks at bond desks, FS desks, hedge funds, down to retail traders. Everyone kind of wants to know what's the kind of secret source that I use for monitoring Twitter and really once I go through this session it's very much a case of a logical and quite a structured process in how to use that tool effectively to get the most out of it and so there's a couple of things I can go over and explore and share with you I think I've been using Twitter now for the best part of perhaps eight, nine years always until more recently joining Amplify just for the purpose of monitoring now obviously I tweet a little bit more myself. A little bit about my background I'm the head of market analysis here at Amplify Trading I was in the same position previously for a company called Ransquark which is one of the world's leading squawk companies my job then is to monitor financial news and give insight, analysis in a real-time fashion upon things in which I'm seeing so that can be things that are coming out off of traditional news-wise like your normal terminal systems or can be things like Twitter for example where you can capture things like rumors and so on which we're going to discuss so that's what we're going to talk about and going straight into things why do we use Twitter? now let's just build the scene first why exactly use Twitter when you can use a Bloomberg or Reuters these kind of professional systems which people will pay thousands and thousands of dollars for every month now the point being here is that the guys at the big institutions will be using those platforms but those who are not familiar with it are Bloomberg's news function just one small part of that terminal I mean it's quite a powerful tool in terms of its analytics it's historical data sets that you can look at as well as things like a chat function, pricing functions and so on and so forth the point being is let's say Bloomberg has around 3,000 financial journalists worldwide and they're releasing these news stories all the time Reuters might be doing the same Wall Street Journal, the FT these are your traditional financial news services now one of the restrictions that they can have is that they can only really report authenticated and genuine news which means then by default they can be quite slow on certain things for example what I've tried to do here is give you an overview of why Twitter can fill that gap and how it does so first of all speed now one of the things here and it kind of fits in lockstep really with the one on the right which is Breumans let's say Brexit has been a massive issue ever since it was initiated in the summer of 2016 and every time we get these kind of roadmaps of when there's a political event that's happening like a vote in parliament for example you see this big spike in traffic and the pound becomes much more sensitive to movement and responsive to headlines when they come out now one of the things there is that these journalists and if you think about a journalist by default what is their singular objective as a journalist now what they want is basically to break stories first if the guy at BBC can beat the girl at the ITV or Channel 4 and so on they become much more famous for that they become much more well followed, more respected it's kind of the first out with the scoop is the king in that world and the new format of delivering that now that news dissemination has evolved so much over the period of the last decade is Twitter so I remember when I started in markets in 2006 literally you had to wait for the truck drop-off to pick up your newspapers fresh in the morning and read them to find what was the important headline of the day markets were then open and react but markets in 2020 now move radically different now it's the case of as soon as Jerome Powell the Fed chair says something a journalist is on it and tweets it immediately and financial news now in a way of which prices or trades are executed it's not just humans point click anymore there's algorithms there's other systems automated that can respond to these types the key words for example and that means then the underlying story now is almost redundant what actually moves markets in a very short term intraday environment is a piece of news a headline comes out and the market spikes and so on so speed is critical the ability for Twitter being unauthenticated in a way means that it can circumvent the restrictions of the editorial sign-off process meaning that news comes rapid now obviously one of the key things which we can discuss later is also authenticity is key how do you know what you're seeing is genuine is one of the then things you'll need to tackle when using Twitter but what it does offer is great access to speed and rumours so with that Brexit example I was suggesting when there's whispers in the halls of Westminster you're going to hear it directly from your Laura Koensbergs your Robert Pestens your Paul Brands from ITV for example they will be tweeting it way before then it becomes on the 6 o'clock news for example the other thing that Twitter is so good is accessibility that's why I've put access there is the idea that you can just have this on your mobile so when you're going about your business for me I'm on the commute into the city of London every morning I can just jump on my phone I can look at who I follow because who I follow is a curated feed of bespoke individuals hand-picked that talk about the things that are relevant for me now for me I monitor global macro so I'm looking out for people commenting on these big top level things like the trade war or Brexit and Trump and so on now by the time I can say that I get into the office which is about 20 minutes on the train then I'm pretty much ready to go I haven't looked at a Bloomberg, I've not looked at Reuters I've not even looked at the charts and I already pretty much know what they're going to look like that's how powerful it can become and certainly if you're a student perhaps watching this video what a great way to be able to just learn on the fly between lectures, between travelling on the train or on the bus it's a great way where you don't have to go through that arduous process of reading the FT back to back cover to cover it's just a case of you're seeing every tweet is adding value to your understanding and your awareness of what's going on in the market in a real time sense then the other thing then that as I've described as to the knowledge the accumulation of knowledge and that's one of the things where for me someone if you watch our morning briefings that we deliver on our YouTube channel do subscribe to them because they'll really help enhance your fundamental understanding of the market so the overall global macro approach that we have here at Amplify Trading but people often look at me and go why do you know about labour strikes in South Africa and how that impacts platinum prices but then how do you know about the copper mines in Chile in Escondida but then how do you know about UK politics now these things aren't I haven't just magic them up out of thin air I know these things through having gone through years of experience and Twitter definitely helps accelerate that kind of knowledge bank that I think you need to be an effective global macro trader or to have an enhanced understanding of market fundamentals but bear in mind I have been doing this since 2006 so my ability to maintain and absorb information has certainly been improved by the way I've been trained and developed over time a few other things then here one of the things I wanted to show you is this and some of you may be familiar with this it's a story that I often tell because it's one that resonates for me very clearly in my mind because I remember the day very vividly so I used to run as I said a real-time news and analysis service so my clients were these guys who were trading large size in the market and they were paying us for real-time coverage now this was back in 2012 I think was when I first started to table the idea to my colleagues about we should be looking at Twitter with more focus we should have a designated person looking at Twitter full-time with a kind of four screen setup all organized into monitoring different things because what I had seen through back testing was that over the course of 12 months it was yielding very good results for finding things from rumors about single stock information to potential terrorism alerts things like that it was coming away before traditional news wise so we got the go ahead and we had a chap sat there and he was his job was to just look at Twitter now arguably back then there wasn't anywhere near as much activity perhaps or quality as there is today in 2019-2020 but there were elements of you could see where this was going and what happened in mid April 2013 you might remember is when those two brothers conducted that horrific Boston Marathon bombing and what typically happens after a high terrorist event of that nature is that global terrorist statuses kind of go on high alert and literally just a week later we had this tweet I know it's a bit small to see but let me read it out to you this was the Associated Press AP news they basically tweeted breaking news two explosions in the White House and Barack Obama is injured this was the genuine Associated Press Twitter account it has around 11 million odd followers so this was legit as far as we could see it so we obviously reported information but the beauty of this was is that not everyone was looking at Twitter at the time and obviously we had a designated guy who was just there looking at Twitter and he immediately was able to comment on this and capture what you can see here which was an immediate spike in US equities to the downside and then what transpired in this event was actually the Associated Press it was an account but it had been hacked and by hacking it then they had put out an illegitimate tweet the tweet got removed the market reversed but I remember it quite clearly it was several minutes before Bloomberg even mentioned this piece of news they were so far behind the curve it was unreal now for our clients at the time when I was in my previous job it was a great opportunity to trade if you are an aggressive type of trader and you're willing to commit, get into the market and that type of volatility then you had a massive time arbitrage to be able to execute those trades and what happened here though was because of this one singular event Twitter then became no longer this kind of thing that a few people looked at to an absolute common mainstay of a set up of nearly every proprietary trader in the world if you were looking at trading intraday in that fashion one of the big things then that gets asked is credibility of these news sources so people like Bloomberg, Reuters, FT, BBC and so on all the national newspapers most of those journalists are in fact encouraged to tweet now don't get me wrong people like Bloomberg are not going to release a scoop on Twitter because that would be counter to the whole reason that people pay tens of thousands of dollars for a Bloomberg terminal but things like Times, Telegraph definitely can offer some insight because other than just the publication every once in a while perhaps on a weekly basis in the weekend press journalists can be quite active throughout the day so a good source is of credible information less credible ones then, Twitter, blog sites another blog site, a very infamous one you might be aware of in the financial community is one called Zero Hedge now Zero Hedge, I think their work is absolute quality obviously you need to take it a little bit with an awareness of their overall kind of spin on markets being somewhat sensationalist or quite bearish but ultimately they're putting out some really insightful information information from different bank notes from different economists, analysts things that otherwise from a retail trader's point of view could be quite difficult to get your hands on and also helps give you quite a high level an intellectual level of looking at how markets are viewed by seasoned professionals how to verify then a Twitter account a checklist that generally I would go through in order to have that process of can I trust and rely on what this Twitter account is saying and here you've got who do they work for how many followers do they have has the account been officially verified as per the logo you can see on the right hand side what type of content has been tweeted previously who follows the account in question and what is the context of the tweet now one of the things I wanted to show you to put this checklist almost into action is this some of you might remember this certainly if you're watching in the UK you probably will but this was December of 2016 I think it was and I remember it because we have a bit of a shutdown here at Amplify Trading between Christmas and New Year so I was hanging out with some friends it was shortly after Christmas so I wasn't in the office but markets were open and I get this frantic phone call off one of my former colleagues and he's going Anthony the queen is dead I'm going to short the pound how much should I short the pound and I was kind of like whoa whoa whoa just hold on hold on a second why would you want to short the pound that was my first question you know quite frankly if the queen is dead that's not going to have any impact on the pound was my initial view and he was arguing yeah but consumer confidence will be hit and spending will be down and I was like look you're talking way too small a value and too long a period of time for traders to be hitting that in an intro day kind of move so I wouldn't even worry about it just phone down I then go on my phone I go on Twitter and I just type in the queen is dead to see what is happening now stay with me this is a genuine example so I find this tweet this was actually the tweet that I found now let me talk you through two things one is what is wrong with this Twitter account what to you it makes you think there's something not quite right about it so let me walk you through it for one they're following 225 accounts and two they've got just over 1000 followers so remember this is trying to suggest that this is the main BBC news UK Twitter account and it's got a thousand followers that to me alarm bells immediately the other thing is they've made a typo they've put UK with a lowercase k they've also gotten a random I after the UK in the actual handle of the account and the context of the tweets if I actually looked at the context of the tweets although you can see this really high res image of the queen with a very legitimate sounding title the other tweets of this person's dog what they had for breakfast so it was immediately obvious to me that this was this was fake now how you can kind of read between the lines here and eliminate this type of illegitimate news is people were literally no one was clicking on the profile all that was happening was the tweet in itself so if you would just imagine from half of this page there were a whole load of people just resharing retweet retweet retweet and so when you look at it it's almost validated that it's genuine by the fact that it was getting thousands of retweets per second so it had gone like wildfire and people just took it for what it was that it was genuine so this is where again a little bit of understanding knowing when markets can be manipulated by these types of things but then also having the foresight to be able to verify the account not believe just what you're seeing it's kind of one of those things like when I talk to our traders about data for example never take a piece of data in isolation you got to put it into context because otherwise it can be misleading if it's just a singular piece of information and it's the same thing here with Twitter so again all I did then to carry that and conclude the story is I just basically said the queen's not dead this is a fake account and as you can see here I woke up the next morning on the morning of the 30th of December and I was literally the front page of every national newspaper in the world The Washington Post, The Huffington Post, The Sun Newspaper, The Most Widely Read Newspaper in Britain and this wasn't because I'm anyone particularly unique and how this is transferable to trading is that I've seen the head of the German Bundesbank's Twitter account falsified and someone's tried to tweet to move the market and in fact it did move the euro this is one important thing to be aware of just because it's fake if enough people believe it it can move the market the idea then is about the longevity you'd want to be in a position of risk in a trade on the back of that type of information what happened with the Bundesbank one was that the actual central bank had to come out and issue a formal press statement to say that that was not actually them it was a made up hoax account so hopefully that makes a little bit more sense about the authenticity process of this this is pretty much the most important slide that I'm going to share with you and this is my my process how do I find the best people to follow on Twitter and these are my kind of key bullet points that I've spent many years kind of refining and so I'm going to share them with you and hopefully you can learn to develop this into a really powerful tool for yourself so one explore your community now what I mean by this is when you when I follow someone on Twitter let's say there's a guy called James Smith he's one of the developed FX market strategists at a European bank I think his work is very good I really like his analysis I think he's right on point so what I will do is I will find him on Twitter and I will follow him that's great that's step one step two then is if he works at a big financial institution he is very much on point he's got his finger on the pulse and he provides timely and useful information for me my question then is when I go on his Twitter account who does he follow who does he feel is good enough to make his shortlist of the people he would want to follow and then I start unlocking this kind of spiders web of who's connected to who and then who people who I'd never even heard of start blipping up on the radar and I start looking at the context of their tweets and they're tweeting useful information all of the time so who's connected to who in your network is a real important one it's kind of the number one step that I would take the other thing then is you're obviously going to start following quite a few people so you've got to get organised now I'm going to share with you a free service called Tweet Deck which allows you to organise them by columns into structures in different lists so basically you categorise who you're following to make it much more orderly so you can look at it and utilise it more effectively so creating lists is quite key a common question I get is how many Twitter accounts can you follow in say one list I would say maximum you want to do is about 450-500 I think if you go beyond that then Tweet Deck which streams these tweets in real time gets too fast and so that's about optimum I'd say if you're more experienced and you can manage looking at more things then perhaps you can go a little higher but then I think it's about then breaking it up into more subject areas rather than having one list with everything that's quite hard to manage so how we used to do it was that each column had a specific purpose one might be the transportation hubs within central London to identify if there are any terror alerts or suspect packages and so on another might be people explicitly commenting on US stocks another one might be someone talking specifically about footsie companies so these are all how you would organise it understand what type of news you are looking for you know one thing again to be crystal clear you're not using Twitter to capture say economic data when it's released you know that's where you go to investing.com or forex factory you can get that anywhere what you're looking for are rumours that's what's really powerful when it comes to Twitter now with rumours things like brexit again would be a perfect one when you know that there's a big meeting or let's say the China US trade war there's a phase one meeting a signing happening at X time when do you think potential rumours might occur without surprise they occur right in the build up and run up to the meeting not a week before but a day before kind of the same thing can happen with central bank sources so when Bloomberg released something like an ECB source comment which is basically an informed person with close thinking of the central bank they will drop that in usually in the 24 48 hours before the event in itself that's when the market is most susceptible to that type of information so again I know kind of just through experience when I need to look for Twitter and when rumours might occur so say with economic data yes I'm not looking for the release but if there was going to be a leak of data for example like ISM ADP non-farm payrolls if it is going to come it's going to come just before and so therefore I'd have a search criteria set up so I could see then if there's any leaks and rumours before things come out Chicago PMI being a case in point anyone who does trade will know Chicago PMI comes out to subscribers a few minutes before the official public release and you can get it on Twitter way before the likes of financial news wives will be releasing it look at who writes articles so again I'm spending a bit of time going through these points because these are the key ones who writes these articles I mean I always say this to people when you read the Wall Street Journal for example and you read a really interesting article how often do you actually pay note to who wrote it what's the person's name and then cross check it do they tweet and lo and behold they do and fairly frequently and of high quality information to get in a habit of opening your mind to capturing you know this information people you know used to pay me a lot of money in my previous job as clients for me to think like this and constantly thinking of how can I get information and how can I get as quickly as possible and how can I be more informed how can I keep my clients more informed or the traders more informed so every time you read something you know ask yourself that question who is writing this piece do they tweet are they worth following next is back test and fact find I used to do this religiously every month you know and again this is sounds like it's a lot of work right but you know don't forget this is what my job was and so again I'm kind of giving you the trade secrets a little bit but here what I would do is if someone if it became well known that Twitter was the first port of course to break a piece of information what I would do is I'd make a note of that and at the end of the day I'd go on to the advanced search filters on Twitter and I would put in this exact kind of timeframe of when the initial event happened I'd then look back chronologically and identify who is the first person to break this information and more often or not it were people who perhaps I'd never even come across before but then I would look at the context of their tweets how often do they tweet I'll put everything together to then see whether or not there's someone worth adding into my list of people to follow so it's not you know nothing and I say this with full belief there's no such thing as luck it's all in the preparation you've got to put yourself in luck's way for it to materialize and for you to benefit from it you know I spent a whole career doing that working silly hours doing this type of thing because I had to be that edge for the traders and so it all you know a lot of this back testing and doing the hard yards pays dividend in the end the other thing is continuously update and review the people you follow people often and I get this I normally talk to traders when they're quite junior they get quite excited about the prospects of what Twitter can bring as you can tell by the things that I'm talking about the potential edge can be huge from a time perspective an execution point of view but then they kind of add all these people and then they leave it and that's not what I'm saying it's an evolving thing people are you know there's new people coming into the market adding value there's people who are already there who are not tweeting enough who are just cluttering your feed subject matter in the market is changing you know whether it's Turkey whether it's a version of the yield curve whether it's the repo rate spike that we had in 2019 you know you want to be altering the feed to reflect the macro hierarchy of the subjects that are moving markets so change constantly quality over quantity is what matters when it comes to this and then this is another thing I always used to do and maybe not everyone is actually aware of this but news in its local language comes out way quicker than it does in English now if you were looking at Chinese press and Russian press I'm going to pick those two because of the trade war that's been going on most recently in 2019 2020 and then also Russia Ukraine remember the annexation of Crimea in 2014 what I used to do was my first thought path was what are all the major newspapers in Russia and Ukraine now that's an easy Google search once I go on there then I then look at the actual websites in Russian and what I used to see was when I put the Russian website and then it's English version of the website the Russian website was updating infinitely quicker so it was almost like it would go up there and then get translated by an English speaking team to then go on the English version and the same thing happens in China so what I'm saying is I used to just rely on translation tools and read literally news in its local language and I used to find massive time edge to get into stories way before their markets would react in terms of US, UK and European markets so on TweetDeck one of the systems I'll show you shortly there is a auto translation function where you can look at tweets so I'd always recommend if the subject matter is in a different language to English then you should always follow it in its local language if you want to be quick and react to things in a different manner. Now with all this being said it does sound like a lot of work but this is how you can really take advantage of the news Twitter if you're going to use it for trading purposes the other way of doing this of course, the shortcut is to get a squawk service like a new squawk for example and they have designated people doing this for you 24 hours a day the other key thing I mentioned is briefly earlier so I won't spend too much time but improving your fundamental knowledge what I find is when the traders here do have it up they spend a lot of the time, they've got their trade set up they've got their fundamental bias, their technical setup, they're just waiting for the trade. Now while they're waiting for the trade just having this kind of scrolling newsfeed of really quite relevant information about the broader macro environment subconsciously almost they're developing their understanding of markets, they're reading about things that perhaps they didn't know about and to be an effective headline trader in the intraday environment which is a hard skill to master you've got to have a real breadth of knowledge to be able to action very quickly and have high conviction and so having that awareness of your finger on the pulse is very key and Twitter is very good at that Trump tweets you know hopefully by now you can see it's not all about Donald Trump although it is and will continue to be so when it comes to Twitter in 2020 as a main feature and we know why is because Trump likes to use the platform of Twitter as his medium of communication for these four different points you know the kind of preemptive framing, diversion we've seen this actually there was one day in December of 2019 just before Trump got impeached by the house where he tweeted over 140 times in one day that's just mind blowing but he's been tweeting and you can see every time he's in the press whether it's for you know Russian relationships or election interference or for dealings with you know Joe Biden and Ukraine and so on his tweets go up if oil prices get too low or too high his tweets go up so it's almost like you can almost predict a bit of a pattern as to the way in which the president operates and certainly with the timeline with the US-China trade war now phase one looks seemingly complete phase two is quite key and what I wanted to show you was this this is the US election 2020 time frame so this is looking at from left to right January 2020 all the way up to the end of the year so the entire 12 months now as you can see here we in Feb to June you have the primaries in the US you then have the Democratic National Convention in mid-July of 2020 and then you've already got penciled in the presidential debates which will happen in SEP and two in October of 2020 before election day on the 3rd of November so if you're thinking about it ahead of time all of these dates will be key and they'll all be key overlaid then with the meetings between the US and China officials because it's into these meetings where you start to see the tweet activity pick up and accelerate from the likes of Trump and his tweets are market moving so again it's a bit of a science it's about using maths and back testing and identification of patterns it's not guesswork to be an effective news trader it's definitely not about being reactive it's about being proactive scenario building anticipating think of a 100 meter runner in the blocks and then think of just a guy standing there a completely unaware the guy in the blocks bang the gun goes he's off whereas the guy here is in shock looks around then starts to react sees the other guy running off and tries to chase after him meanwhile the other guy is finished that's what it's like when I try to express what it's like trading the news and that's why most retail traders can't do it because they don't spend enough time planning the preparation is just crucial in terms of being able to exercise a trade in that type of environment execute a trade so let's move on and a quick run through of setting up Twitter so just go to twitter.com now I sound like a bit of a salesman for Twitter I can assure you that's not the case but set it up and then as you can see here this is my account I'll get on to that later but once you have set it up you then want to go to something called tweetdeck.twitter.com now that is a system which basically streams live tweets rather than you have to interact with the platform so it allows you to monitor the tweets live of the people that you follow an easy way of doing this to get your Twitter account up and running if you're interested in a macro overview just go on my Twitter account and follow the people that I follow that generally will give you a nice flavour although rest assured this is not my definitive full list but it's enough to get you going if you go on tweetdeck then what you need to do is basically organise your columns when you go on to tweetdeck you'll see in the top right hand corner of each column is little settings bar I would eliminate all columns and then start fresh so when you click on the plus sign here when you're on tweetdeck which is on the left hand side click on home, select your account and that will show you everyone you follow then if you have any organised lists you can then select that list and as I said depending on what you trade and what you're interested in you can have different lists showcasing different information there here are a couple of other things to be aware of here at the bottom delta1 at 4xinsight at c underscore barude and at nor harmory these are four people on on twitter that have a slightly different purpose so rather than journalists or analysts or people like me putting out insight and opinion these guys typically copy a lot of information that comes out on major news terminals and then reshare it in an almost instantaneous fashion so if you are interested in getting news quickly into the headline news and you didn't have let's say things like a squawk service with the audio coming out then this can be a quite a good option and a good way of organising this would be to bolt them into their own separate category to be able to monitor so I know we have a lot of US followers so I just wanted to go through and talk about individual US single stock information so in my previous job I did spend a couple of years working on an equities desk so talking of single equities was some common resources that we use stocktwits was one if you're based in the states you're probably very familiar we never heard of them but stocktwits is basically the largest social network for investors and traders they got about 2 million registered members 4 million monthly messages and what do they talk about well individual stock discussions stocks in play or in focus of the day prices market sentiment it is quite good to derive determined from the amount of traffic going through people's commentary on certain individual stocks stock tweets or twits is particularly good if you're looking at that otherwise a couple of other twitter accounts that are worth a shout out which are particularly good at breaking US single stock news so really this is much more based for the guys in New York perhaps stateside rather than the guys in Europe who are more trading probably the currency market but open outcrier and earnings whispers is particularly good in earning season gives you a nice clarity about the options implied volatility price moves on the back of earnings reports looks ahead for technical setups the day ahead what's coming out in terms of corporate earnings for the week and so on so they're particularly good for real time stock and option trading headlines breaking news open outcriers particularly good at rumours as well and here say on the street which you can often get a good time advantage on before small cap stocks will see a bit of a pop in price there are more sophisticated services out there and I just wanted to give these a quick mention these are the types of services that people would pay a lot of money for so normally would be used by investment banks or hedge funds in particular rather than your prop trader or your retail trader but if you are interested there's one called celerity another one called data miner both do start to go into the realms of AI intelligence looking at real time event and risk detection so again if you're a hedge fund and you've got literally hundreds of millions or billions of risk in the market then be able to be alerted to a certain type of event that is unfolding before it becomes mainstream information you'd pay a lot of money for so data miner is one of those types of services it's used by goldmans Morgan Stanley Credit Suisse Fidelity all the big boys will be using this type of system but again you're talking about tens of thousands of dollars per month in subscription fees if you are using it so it's a slightly different level of investor that would have that okay just to finish up then on Twitter don't forget to follow the key members of the amplified team so those being Sam North Sam North is one of our senior traders he oversees as well the live trading and the risk for the guys on our trading floor and acts as a bit of a mentor for them he's much more based on his trading decisions on the technical side of things so if you do watch our market briefings on our YouTube channel remember do subscribe to the channel you'll see Sam talking about his setups for the day then there's me as I said I'm the head of market analysis and I put out useful infographics thoughts about things that are occurring Fed decisions, Bank of England trade war these types of things the market fundamentals are really key for me so that's my handle at the bottom then our head of trading Piers Curran he started trading in 2001 he used to be a part of HSBC he then worked for Goldenberg, Haymeyer in their trading division a US proprietary trading firm back in the early noughties before then founding amplified trading in 2009 he absolutely is one of the people I trust the most when it comes to trading on the market and so he's also worth a follow when you get time so hopefully that was insightful I've had a lot of requests to do this video over the years so hopefully it's going to be useful for you and you've enjoyed it and it's opened your mind to a little bit of the way to view and approach using Twitter to trade and to monitor news any questions at all please do feel free to leave a comment and I'll be happy to help further alright I'll see you next time thanks very much guys