I'd like to introduce to you Alejandro Salvador Fernández Allende, the grand son of Salvador Allende. Thank you very much for welcoming all of us to the great country, indeed this is a great country, it's a beautiful country, it's a mighty country, so thank you so much for welcoming. I have a speech here I'm going to read in Spanish because it's close to me, to my emotions, so I want that to show. Entre el curso, so this speech starts with part of the Cuban anthem, it is notemais una muerte gloriosa que morir por la parte de vivir. Hola, a las gracias a los de ustedes por estar aquí presentes en esta fecha tan importante para Chile, Latinoamérica y para la memoria histórica. Quiero también darles gracias a los organizadores de este evento, a Titian Federation, a los Unios, a Carisma Caliambra, las miembros del Parlamento que nos acompañan hoy, al embajador de Cuba Candidice, a Diegues, al embajador de Chile Jaime Chomali, al embajador de Venezuela, Daniel Gasparri, y a cada uno de ustedes. Quiero vertirle que algunos de los temas que moraré en este día son difíciles y lo haré con profundas del careza, humanidad y alturas de mirar. Mi nombre es Alejandro Fernández Allende, soy el hijo menor de Beatriz Allende y le juñe, cuyo nombre real es Rodolfo Gallagrago. Mis padres de esta enfermedad sintieron el llamado de la revolución en Latinoamérica y pusieron sus vidas al servicio de la humanidad. Les cuento que cuando ocurrió el golpe militar, mi madre estaba para la sala de Vinc, el día 11 de septiembre, Beatriz, la dirigió a la moneda para ayudar a repeler el ataque final al palacio presidencial. Fue el mismo Allende quien tuvo que expulsar la moneda a mi madre, a su hermana Isabel y a varios compañeros. Fue así como Allende en sus últimos minutos salvó nuestras vidas a través de su propio sacrificio. Siempre pienso en los momentos difíciles y finales de Salvador Allende, donde mi abuela era presidente, era mi padre, era marido, era gigante, era soldado, era máster y también era la república en llamas. Parte de mi familia saldó a Cuba a la asistencia de la Unión Soviética que envió sus naves a Chile, las cuales salvaron la vida de cientos de compatriotas. Yo nací dos meses después en el hospital, sagrado corazón de La Habana, mi madre Beatriz, inmediatamente asumí mucha responsabilidad en Cuba y por muchos tres años fue el líder de la resistencia acá en el exterior. Desafortunadamente Beatriz no pudo vivir con la pere normal que tenían y tomó la decisión de terminar con su vida el 11 de octubre de 1977. Yo tuyo que mi madre murió de forma simbólica el día del golpe y también una parte mía murió con ella el día de su partida en aquel fatíbico octubre. Los miembros de la familia Iemle, raras veces hablamos de trama de aquí a los años pero creo que es importante hablar del dolor, hablar de la pérdida y de estos temas porque el silencio es siempre dañivo. Quiero aprovechar y darle las gracias a la república de Cuba, a la república de Venezuela, a través de sus respectivos embajadores, pues ambas naciones recibieron miles de miles de refugiados chilenos argentinos y de muchos otros países durante los días más oscuros de nuestros continentes. Gracias a vuestra solidaridad y a vuestro trabajo humanitario, muchas vías fueron salvadas. Cuando venían llegando a Australia, Nueva Zelanda, cuando venían llegando a Australia de Oakland, me pregunté qué es lo que realmente significa el quebr institucional en Chile. El 11 de septiembre representa la ruptura, la herida, el duelo constante y, al final, abrupto de los sueños y esperaciones de millones de mujeres y hombres. Hoy somos una de las memorias y los anhelos de justicia. Sabemos que el 11 de septiembre el Ejército de Chile expresionó su mandato democrático atacando el Palacio de la Moneda que representa la esencia misma de la república. Hoy también quiero decirles que los cobares del Ejército de Chile en la residencia de Tomás Moro, donde se encontraba mi abuela, porque se use indefensa y protegida solamente por un puñado leal de con la espalda de compañeros del gato. Esta madera y una de sus últimas palabras le dice al pueblo y le dice al mundo. Colocado en este tal ciclo histórico, pagaré con mi vida la ley de estar pueblo y les digo que tengo certeza de la semilla que hemos entregado a la conciencia digna de miles y miles de chilenos que no podrán ser cegados definitivamente. Tienen la fuerza, podrán afrayarnos, pero no se detienen los procesos sociales ni con el crimen ni con la fuerza. La historia es nuestra y la hacen los pueblos. Es decir, que es decir, que van a ser asesinados. Muchos de los que estamos aquí, para muchos de los que estamos aquí, aún nos llegan los hecos de esos días donde la ciudad de Santiago estaba bajo el humo tóxico de las bombas y el río Mapocho arrastró los ojos y los cuerpos acribillados y mutualados de las primeras víctimas de la jauría sangriota militar. Hoy también recordamos al héroe de Miguel Enrique, a los hermanos Vergara, a Víctor Jara, al rodido Roja, a Carmen Gloria. En estas FMDs tenemos presente a los profesores de hoyados, a los desaparecidos, a los ejecutados políticos, a los torturados y a los exilviados y aquí nadie queda olvidado. Hoy también agradecemos a nuestros queridos amigos astroalianos que desde un principio hasta el presente nos han caminado junto con nosotros y nos han ofrecido su solidaridad. Quiero contarles que los pilares de Chile post-dictadura fueron construidos sobre la impuridad. Recuerdo que en esos años se hablaban de la justicia a la medida posible y esa justicia llegó para una minoría. En Chile hubo un chantaje por parte del ejército contra la sociedad civil para que la verdad y la justicia nunca vayan a la mujer día y esa es la guerra. Hoy nadie queda olvidado y somos uno en el vuelo, en la memoria, en la acerción y también en la esperanza. Pasando a un tema local me gustaría pedirle a cada uno de ustedes que sigan mencionando que los deteriorados estarían correspondientes para que el día en arriba sea tradicional a Chile lo antes posible y tenga que afrontar la justicia en Chile de la cual lo llevo cubáremente. No es posible que alguien culpable del crimen que encontra la humanidad hoy haya encontrado refugio en estas mismas caís que hoy caminamos. Hoy alguien le vive y le mirá por siempre. Hay alguien desquerido, recordado en todo el mundo porque quien muere por nosotros quien se sacrifica por los actos valores de la humanidad jamás conocerá la muerte. Me gustaría terminar estas palabras con un texto de su premio Nobel, Pablo Neruba, que fue también asesinado por la dictadura militar. Este escrito de Neruba es el paro final de sus memorias, confieso que he vivido, donde describe cuando mi abuela fue llevada por los meditares a aterrar el cuerpo ahí en vez que forma oculta. Dice Neruba, tenían que aprovechar una ocasión tan bella. Había que ametrallarlo porque jamás no se haría su cargo. Aquel cuerpo fue enterrado secretamente en un sitio cualquiera. Aquel cabaver que marchó en la sepultura acompañado por una sola mujer que llevaba a sí mismo todo otro mundo. Aquella gloriosa figura muerta iba acribillada y despensada por las vales de las ametralladoras de los soldados de Chile que una vez más había entraserado a Chile. Gloria tiene a Salvador Allende, Gloria tiene a Beatriz Allende, Gloria tiene a todos nuestros queridos. Muchas gracias. It's a pleasure to have you here in the U.S. World Parliament. Yes. Well, you're not allowed to record, but we're doing it anyway. Okay, I'm not going to tell them. No, we're here for those chickens. Thank you very much for joining us today, particularly this memorable occasion of 50 years since the coup, the U.S.-led coup. Tell us, are you living in New Zealand for how many years now? I've been in New Zealand at least 32 years. 22 years. I consider New Zealand like my second exile. Yes, second exile. Do you go back to Chile often? I go often to see my family. They are all of them in Santiago with COVID accords. I will go this November to see them. So I go quite often. How would you judge the understanding of the people of New Zealand and Australia about what happened? I mean, most of the people don't have a clue about what happened 50 years ago. You really need to talk to people who have an interest in history or, you know, in the universities, academics, but I mean, the folks that you talk on by day, they don't really know about what happened exactly in Metro America during the Cold War. So the people who are here today are Chileans. Yeah, they're Chileans, but there are also a lot of Aussies that have been supporting the Chilean's travel for many, many years. So there are a lot of friends and people from here that have been working together along with Chilean exile for decades. Tell me about the effort to try to declassify some documents that would show Australia helped so I didn't know that. But that surprised me because, I mean, if you go to Sydney Harbour, every time I go I see like warships everywhere and so test in America and it happened a lot of times and you see the news, the exercise so I'm sure and also what happened during the Vietnam War and who support what so I have no doubt in my heart that the Australian Government supported the CIA and Henry Kissinger to overthrow Salvador It's an alliance, basically. We don't know the details yet. That's what I say. I would love to obviously read that once it's available, but it won't be there. Well, as you say, Australia has its long history empire in their wars and now the American Empire Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and now joining AUKUS to put pressure on China It's why it's at least behavior, basically. It's extraordinary dangerous to Australia it doesn't help Australia's interest at all but it helps the US interest It's hard to understand that now New Zealand still has their non-nuclear policy but there's even a move in New Zealand now to maybe join AUKUS I don't have the pressure as well I'm from the United States and I can tell you that probably worse than here the percentage of people who understand not only what happened in Chile but all across the operation Condor, the entire brutal first stage of American post-war empire World War II really played out in Latin America by rehabilitating really Nazi ideas in many ways military dictations and you agreed that the United States this was an important part of their post-war empire what they did in Latin America and the people who survived Chile and Argentina Brazil and Uruguay all of these countries were really victims of American empire Correct, yes and we were victims and I grew up in Cuba as well so we had an empire and it was like really difficult and now Cuba is really struggling at this moment due to the post-war conversation and now the embargo so they are having a lot of difficulties in Cuba Now in the United States history is not very important except the mythology and the logical history of America its founding, its greatness, its democracy spreading democracy but as the Jimmy said that in the United States there is no truth in reconciliation commission there is no memory of what the United States government did even having the school of America in US territory in Georgia, I was about that and in Panama Canal Zone they ran it from there extraordinary though how important is it do you think for the American people to know the history of your country in all of Latin America is extremely important but American people are just not interested in history mostly as you said they really they know more people you speak to they don't really know it will be great, it will be really helpful if they care if they start showing interest about about the your politics of America in the Latin America in the rest of the world which is obviously imperialistic and now I believe it's an empire in decadence and that's what is happening I mean all these things that when they openly recognized the use of torture so that's totally moral decadence once you reach that level you can see that these people are going down as well I think we are going through dangerous times there is a lot of populism there is a lot of fake media propaganda and it kind of reminds me the first year of Hitler before he went into power but it's essentially it's possible that history repeat itself and it happened and it could happen and we need to be ready for that let me go back to why do you think American people are just interested in history in general particularly what happened in Latin America because they have no lack of natural curiosity or is it the media education it's pretty much the media it's pretty much you know selecting what people should be interested in but also it's your own if you want to really know what book you study etc and I'm not sure if people have time for that that's every time I talk to people who are in America they always think so basic and they the economy is not good so they have two three jobs and then really they talk about their life but I think intuitive me that there is ideological component from the people who obviously the mass media entertainment industry and all of that that just really people who don't think about their own reality about others our empathy what happened I don't know in Russia and the Philippines in Vietnam all of that I'm going to talk to you about the possibility of military dictatorship or maybe in a different form a dictatorship in Latin America again throughout and I just traveled this year to Ecuador, Mexico Bolivia, Peru, Paraguay Argentina and so on and all those many of those countries have memory museums like Esmael and Buenos Aires and I went to the one in Paraguay as well who had the longest dictator I think Estrosna so given that the people in Latin America have a memory of what happened how will that work to prevent the return of a kind of dictatorship like that whereas in the United States they don't have this memory yeah exactly so I think it's very important to do this that we're doing today to raise our voices to talk to gradually have these so populism and fascism is a game back not just in Latin America but in all parts of the world and if you see what happening now with this new candidate from Argentina who he's a mad man a Trump look like a pretty decent guy in comparison with him he looks like a demon with his sister isn't he there was a cousin the candidate he's a young guy he looks a little crazy he's absolutely I don't know many you know but he has a chance to become Argentina's president and Argentina is suffering so all this disaster post COVID inflation is creating a perfect storm in Latin America for people for just fashion to potentially get organized and make a comeback and they have the press the media and they have the resources they would need the United States support they always need it but I'm not exactly sure what's the policy right now of the United States with Latin America obviously with Cuba it changed with Obama I went to Cuba at that time and it was all this hope and now with Trump we went back to square zero and people like you are suffering even worse right now they're suffering even worse after the collapse of the Soviet Union so there is a lot of problems and the United States we like it or not it's important we need to know what they're doing because they're dangerous they don't want any popular movement particularly left-wing popular movement in Latin America so whether this kind of fascism could return would be dependent on the memory of the Latin American people and the ignorance of the North American people there would be resistance in Latin America wouldn't there but not from the North American population to the US support I think that would take generations I made a few Americans you know social leaders really really incredible people I remember this woman that she used to make the documentaries she's American in Cuba and she used to really really really prepare people I'm sure there will be people in America that are organized but they are a minority so but we need a lot more people interested in all of this so we can basically be an effective resistance about what happened about the potential of fascism there's also growing censorship online it didn't exist 50 years ago social media being suppressed if a opinion that goes against US narrative official narrative comes up there was a woman Adriana Rios, her name is tell me about her Adriana, we're talking about the woman who's been walking the streets of Sydney so I think she's detained at the moment sorry she she was the secretary of Manuel Contreras one of the worst human being that you can find he's a monster he was known for his cruelty, he was in torture and he did the most horrific crime that you could imagine but this woman was not only a secretary she also partake in torture and we know that she's been prosecuted in Chile she was sentenced in Chile she escaped from justice so basically what we have here is someone that is guilty of crimes in his humanity working in this same street and she's taking all the step that disappears and the people in Chile have an opportunity to go to the judiciary system and she has a source all of that none of the people that she tortured they had no opportunity so she has given that I think it's outrageous and I have a stress in this trip that people keep talking to the police until we get rid of her and we deport her to go back to Chile to face justice does Chile and Australia have a tradition treaty I am no aware of that but I'm pretty sure that she will be you say she's detained right now I was told that she was detained I don't know that 100% but I was told by people that really know about the case lawyers that she's actually detained would you like to meet someone like this face to face to talk to her I have nothing to talk to her because I don't want to talk to a soldier called criminal for example what about the grand children of Pinochet I have a really really good story when the 40th anniversary of the coup d'etat I was talking about 10 years ago I went to Chile and then they invited me to a TV show and then when I was there you were going to talk it's you and him one of his grand sons I said okay bring it around you know it was a national TV and then all of a sudden I was sitting there there were like two people one from the left and one from the right to get an equilibrium and all of a sudden the woman the presenter said he didn't call so so we had a dressing program without him and I said no because I didn't have any I mean I don't have nothing I think he probably is a victim of his own family I have no grudge with him and I wish him well but I didn't really want to talk to a family to be honest but you were ready to what's going to talk to him what do you think about Margaret Datcher she was she was she was very awful especially to Achilles I have really I don't give too much thought to her because she's dead and her reign was like really she's pretty much the opposite to all of my principles because you know obviously she protected Pinochet yes she did and then when he finally left on humanitarian ground in Britain he arrived in Chile he had the plane in a wheelchair which was the reason he gets up and walks it's a miracle it's rice over there Margaret Datcher you have a soft soft for detectives you know what prosecuted him and he's now a lawyer supporting Julian Assange defending Julian Assange so we have the British government not extraditing Pinochet one of the most brutal of all the dictators of the post-war period but they're trying to extradite Julian Assange that's right, Claire Montgomery she defended Pinochet and prosecuted Assange Balthasar Gasol was in Chile he's in Chile right now his favorite Spanish and their followers what does that say about the British government that they let him go there's different people in charge but they let him go and then they want Julian Assange well they're British I mean the British in Chile I'm talking about the government and what they played during in history they are the worst they are worse than the Americans really if you go back in history and the Americans are like sort of offsprings of them but I think the British if you see the history they have no one but many they committed genocide quite a few times in clean India and all the colonies they had so they lost their empire they joined the Americans they're nostalgic they crave power power is really you know, power is really it's a drug especially if you have a hollow heart I think they crave that they own those times that they miss but they have no empire anymore one of the results of the was this economic system that was being tried out by the Chicago school the Chicago boys we now call neoliberalism which is total it's old laissez-faire take the government out of politics out of the economy rather and let free market reign complete this is a very horrible thing that Chilean coup is given to the world it is awful people talk about Pinochet like he invented the economy in Chile it's all a lie actually in the 80s when they sold the state company the people were really it was one of the worst economic types in Chile during Pinochet and they basically stole from a group including Piñera who is a vampire they took money from Lanchile national airlines from all the state companies they treated them as their own business better, shame on them and we haven't come to the end of that no, no, no, it's ongoing and yes, and Chile was proud to be a pioneer in all of these and then I remember when we were one of the first ones who can take money out of and they thought that was like being in such a drama this is still the battle we're facing here where people resist that, try to return state control of some industries, some equality and the United States will try to get rid of that kind of government like they did your grandfather exactly, yes they really haven't ended that phase they haven't, they haven't like quite violent how do you say violent well, your grandfather was what we heard today from the Cuban ambassador was an extraordinary recitation on what Fidel Castro said about your grandfather he was an inspiration for so many people, he still is thank you so much thank you so much


Great. We'll start off with D-Led. All right, D-Led, you're going to leave it off. Make sure I'm using myself there, Coach. Coach, the game like Dallas, what are some of the teaching tools do you work with? You break it up a little bit. Okay. I couldn't hear the question. Okay. I'll go slower. Maybe that'll help. What are some of the teaching points that you took out of the game to give back to your team here moving forward into this game? Well, big teaching tools were the mistakes that we made. We had a couple of mental errors in zone coverage. Our technique in man coverage, there were some things like that. We had some chances to make some plays and we didn't make them. So, it's just like any week, whether you win, whether you lose, there's always good, there's always bads, and what you got to do is try to improve on the things that you did bad, and those are some of the things that we didn't do well, and we need to improve on. Thank you, Coach. Yeah. Michael Rofton. Hey, Dean, you miss us?  Yeah, I do. I do. I always miss you. It's basically like Tori. I'm like, Tori's my favorite. You know that, don't you? Oh, yeah. I fully accept this. I'm curious, when it comes to the pass, Raj, how did you feel like Dante fared in his first game back? I don't know that we got a heck of a lot of opportunities. The ball got out pretty quick. You know, it did okay. I mean, nobody did great. Nobody did terrible. It was just kind of, we just, when we did get there, we didn't cover very well, and when we did cover very well, we didn't get there. So, it was a combination of everybody. It wasn't just one, what in the front, what in the back end, it was a combination of all of us. So, and we made some, you know, again, we made some errors that we just shouldn't make, and we just got to learn from that and build on that. But I mean, he did okay. It was as good as anybody else. You talked last week about how New England's offensive playbook is this massive thing, and your playbook is a pretty massive thing. Having worked in New England, is there some sort of advantage or maybe disadvantage because Bill knows you pretty well that can happen? I don't think so. And really it was 2009 was the last time I was there. I mean, that's a long time ago. A lot of things have changed. I mean, Josh is still there and all that stuff. But, you know, there's been a lot of changes, a lot of changes in personnel. I mean, there's almost nobody, the only guy there is a special teamer that was there when I was there. And so, you know, not really. It's just, I kind of know what they can do. I don't know how they're going to do it or what they're going to do. But I kind of know in a way how they're going to do it. And maybe he knows that about us too. So, but it's not, I don't think there's any real big advantage, no. Thanks. Yep. Tori? Dean, I'm going to get a mug that says, Dean's favorite on it. And I'll bring it to the next press conference. No, no, no, I'll ask my question. What's kind of the dialogue that you have with a guy like Avery Williams, where it really seemed like Dallas was kind of going after him a little bit with CD? I mean, what's kind of the dialogue that you have with a rookie like that? Well, just the biggest thing is he's so young and it's just what got him in trouble. First of all, they have four very talented receivers. And we tried during the game a one point time to actually see if we could match up. But the problem was is that it's hard to do that. When you don't practice it, you know, we lost Hawkins right before the game started. So we kind of had a thing going there with him, but that didn't, obviously that didn't pan out. So it just, you just got to keep reassuring and just telling him, you know, it's going to get better, but you just, you really got to find, it goes back to fundamentals.  And really, whether we had him on him, or we had him on Cooper, or we had him on Wilson, they all were talented. I mean, you can say, okay, well, match this guy up on him. Well, they've got three other ones that can't match him up on all of them. So it's just the biggest thing is that, like I told you guys the other day, everybody learns from their mistakes. And so hopefully he'll learn from things that we talked about this week on why certain things happen to him and hopefully he'll improve on that. I'm glad that you brought up Jaylin Hawkins and kind of having to adjust the day of to not having him.  Well, it's just, it's, anytime you take somebody out of alignment and basically a guy that to me is, he's a starter, right? He may not necessarily start the game, but I consider him a starter in a rotation. And the thing about it is what it does is then, you know, all of a sudden you can't move somebody else to a position, like for example, if we were getting hurt at nickel, I could easily have moved Eric Harris back up to nickel. He played there, you know, a week ago, but we couldn't do that because all of a sudden Eric and Duran got to take all the reps at safety. So you couldn't move. That's what it kind of does is it's a depth issue more than it is necessarily a whole scheme issue.   Yeah. And just one more for me with Bill Belichick, you guys go way back. Is there kind of something that you've learned about him that maybe people don't know of, maybe some stories that you could share about your time with him? Well, I don't know if there's any, you know, really stories about him that I would necessarily share, but it's just, you know, I have a tremendous, tremendous respect for the man. I mean, he's, if not the best football coach ever in the NFL, he's certainly among the top couple. And the thing that I just have told our team and told the defense at least is that he can beat you so many different ways. I mean, they can run the ball and win a game, they can throw the ball and win a game. I've seen it firsthand where we went, they went into games and went empty the whole first quarter and went no huddle. And, you know, now it's looked like they run the ball, you know, a lot and all these two back formations that we haven't seen, but I said, but don't surprise that he could come out and throw the ball every down for the first 10 downs. I'm just telling you, they can change overnight. And it's just, there've been so much continuity there that with him and Josh and those guys and Ivan Fears, they just kind of regroup. Awesome, thank you. And for me? Coach, of course, this is a short week this week when you get ready to play New England. How would you describe your team? Evening is just to get back on the field, especially with it being a short week than usual.  And so we just gotta go back out and prove that we're a better team than what we showed last week. So I know it's a short week, it's a tough week for the players, a tough week for the coaches, you gotta get, but it's tough on the other team too. And so it's not like we're the only ones that have a short week, so it's New England. So, and they gotta travel here. So it's just, you can't wait to really kind of get back out there and I think the players feel that way too. You kind of touched on Dunn Saipala a little bit. He's kind of back into, you know, game, his form and everything. What do you think most importantly, he'll be able to bring during this point in the season where, you know, right now in this one season? Well, we just, you know, we need him to be, you know, the guy that we think he can be. We need him to be a pass rusher guy that can set, you know, come on the edge and be one-on-ones. I mean, that's what we need him to be. And, you know, that's why he was brought here a couple of years ago and that's what we need him to be. So hopefully he's healthy now and he can provide it for us. Because right now, you know, we're struggling there. I mean, it's no secret.  I'm not upset with anybody. I'm not disappointed. It is what it is. And, you know, but we gotta provide more pressure on the quarterback and I can't always be with the pressure. You know, we pressured last week. Right, we had two guys on that one touchdown pass. We had two guys free to hit the quarterback. I don't know if anybody saw the play, but, you know, if ball gets off then you gotta be able to cover them. So it's both. It's not just pressure. Pressure isn't always, you know, the answer. And we try doing that. And sometimes we don't get them. When we don't get there, it's not pretty sometimes. So it's just we need him to provide a presence out there on the edge that can just, can rush the passer. That's what we need. Chris, Rem. Coach, when you watch the Patriots on film and their offense, is there anything that stands out to you about the way they play that other teams don't do? Yeah, they're physical. Here's the thing about their running backs, okay? If you watch their running backs, you watch the film, what Bill Belichick tells those guys, and what Ivan Fears, who's a running back coach and has been there for 20-some years, what they tell those guys to get a first down, they aren't trying to get a touchdown. They are, but they're trying to get a first down. Ever watch them, they don't jump cut. They don't try to take a six yard game and turn it into a 30 yard game. They take a six yard game and try to make it into a nine or 10 yard game, and sometimes that'll turn into a bigger game. They run downhill. They aren't looking to avoid conduct. I mean, if you watch them, they are straight ahead, no fair dodging. I mean, that's what they do, and that's why they just grind it out and grind it out and grind it out. You know, sometimes you'll see a running back break through the line.  Bill doesn't coach that way. Ivan doesn't coach that way.  And if you watch them on film, that's exactly how they play. It's physical. Justin Felder. Hey Dean, I'm gonna mess up his quote, but Matt Ryan said after the game, you know, you have to take advantage of a game like what happened in Dallas and learn from it. Otherwise it's an opportunity wasted.  You can't make mental mistakes. You can't make, we made a couple of mental mistakes in that game that hurt us in zone. So therefore then when you come back, you try calling a little bit of man coverage, which really I did not want to call very much of in that game based on their receiving core. But you know, all of a sudden I'm not real comfortable with two mental errors that we had in zone coverage that we play every day. So now I'm kind of thinking, okay, what do I got to do here? So then I go to man and that wasn't the answer. And I knew when the answer for the game. And you know, I can be mad at myself, but I feel like that's the thing. What happens is it gets you kind of off rhythm. It gets you off of what you really wanted to do in the game. How do you want to call the game? You know, you want to go the long, hard way. You want them to do all that stuff. And all of a sudden you feel like, okay, I got to take a little bit more of a risk, which usually doesn't pan out. Cause if I thought it was that way to begin with, I would have planned the game plan that way. So to me, that's what we got to take from it. We got to take that. We just got to do our job. Everybody is assigned a job. And every profession in this world, everybody's got a job to do to make the company work and successful. And the way we have to do it, all 11 guys do their job, not somebody else's. When you start taking chances, which that's why we had the mental errors. Somebody took a chance thinking, I'll go make a play to help somebody else out. Then they throw it right where they're supposed to be. That didn't work. And so that's what we got to learn. And we got to take from this.  Don't beat yourself. And that's what we did a lot on defense last week, because we made too many mental mistakes. Tanitra. Oh, good. Thanks. We got time for one last question. Anybody or? All right, guys. Appreciate you as always. Thanks. See you. Thanks, Dan.


Tonight, we will be doing some thinking about discerning, particularly in this area of understanding evil in the context of pathological narcissism, as you remember from my first presentation. I said that one of the contributions of Scott Peck has been to talk about the way in which pathological narcissism is related to what we know in theological reflections as evil. I also said to you that I think it's important for us to be very clear that the way in which he has divided this spectrum of personality issues and problems is problematic in which he has all of the personality disorders, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and difficulties, neurotic, and so forth. And then in one group of people who are very ill, he has decided to call those people evil, the ones that have extremely severe narcissistic pathology. I said to you that I think that is really misleading, and it misses the way in which all of us have to some degree some difficulties in terms of pathological narcissism. I do a lot of teaching on this type of area in my teaching at Chicago Theological Seminary. One course that I've been teaching a long time is a course called Psychopathology and Theological Perspective. I always use Scott Peck's People of the Lie as a bad example of how to do this. And what I suggest, and here again we've got 30 or more hours of material, which we're going to go over very fast. What I do is to take the diagnostic and statistical manual of the American Psychiatric Association, and I have my students take a syndrome and do a theological analysis of that syndrome looking for the particular way in which they might understand each syndrome to reflect what we might call in some way the demonic or evil or pathological narcissism in some form. It's very clear that when you understand the way in which narcissistic wounding is an important part in the difficulties of human beings and that you get to the point that you can see how everything from obsessive compulsive or compulsive personality disorders to histrionic personality disorders right across the board, you can, if you understand enough about narcissistic pathology, you can see the way in which that syndrome also reflects this wounding and this difficulty or we might say it manifests evil in this way. So in other words, rather than making a handful of very troubled people carry the brunt of being evil, it's kind of like more like what we might say about sin. You don't ask, are you a sinner? You ask, how am I a sinner? And you try to get some sense about how your life has been compromised in some way by the forces of evil or the demonic. In the context of this lecture tonight, I just wanted to start out by saying that I was particularly appreciative of the way in which John Doerle characterized spirituality, the nature of spirituality and particularly his emphasis on the importance of spirituality in accessing the forces of life, accessing the energies of life so that life might be lived with joy and be lived with fullness because that is precisely the kind of area we get into when we examine what narcissistic pathology is really like. And what I'd like to do tonight is to talk with you about pathological narcissism, give you some of the understanding of how wounding in one's narcissism happens, some of the marks of that, some of the current theories about how that is treated. And I'd like to relate it then to some of the things that I think that Jungian psychology offers us in terms of understanding the varieties of expression that this kind of wounding can take. And so when we speak of discerning the way in which pathological narcissism or the expression of evil and psychological forms affects us, we will take a look at the different ways which it can be understood to afflict us and the way in which Jungian psychology helps us understand that. Let me start out by having us reflect a little bit on the mythology of Satan. Together, we're doing a psychological reflection on evil now. And I recommended that you look at those books by Jeffrey Burton Russell on the history of Satan, and they have a number here in the bookstore. One of the interesting things that becomes clear from Jeffrey Burton Russell's research is that the way in which Satan is talked about in mythology and in history makes him sound like someone that we would talk about today as a person with a with a severe narcissistic personality disorder. Some of the things that are emphasized about Satan and some of the legends are that Satan is very envious of the place that God holds and that he feels that his beauty is not being seen and appreciated.  And he says something to the effect of, I think my beauty is even more outstanding than that of God. And they all agree. And one of the stories that Jeffrey Burton Russell tells is the chagrin and shame when God walks back in the room and confronts him about this. It's very interesting that this idea of Satan as being someone who wants to be seen and wants to be celebrated and wants to be noticed and wants to be seen as beautiful is a theme which is repeated throughout a lot of mythology about Satan. And one of the reasons why people think that Satan represents a good that needs to be integrated is that Satan in some ways seems to represent our exhibitionistic self, the part that wants to have a little glory.  Well, the picture of Satan is that he can say, well, why not a little bit for me? Why not a little glory for me? And when we get into a look at narcissistic development in a moment, you will see why this image of Satan as somebody who is longing to be seen, longing to be noticed, longing to have just a little bit of that glory or what you and I glory is a word that somehow parallels what we might call numerosity. You know, when we speak of archetypal energies, when we speak of numerosity, that special magical energy that the contact with the archetypal self gives us, it gives you a little sense of glory.  And so as we look at narcissistic development, we will see that it's a very normal thing for a person to need to develop a capacity to accept being seen, to accept being celebrated, to accept their own drive toward exhibitionism. And when we get into difficulties in our development on the what is known as the narcissistic line of development, we get to where we have problems about this. We might say we have Satan's problem about this. And so what I'd like to start with tonight is talking to you a little bit about some of the current understanding of narcissistic development, what we mean by that in psychoanalysis today and how that differs from what it used to be thought about. And then talk a little bit about the current understanding of what is needed to heal difficulties with narcissistic development, so that we can get some sense about the geography that we're operating in here in the psyche. So let me start a little bit about what we know today about narcissistic development. You know, in the history of the church, the idea that you might be narcissistic was considered sort of like egocentrism, and was to be a bad thing. That is to say, this is where we got our idea that that being selfless was good. And the idea that you really should be humble by which you would mean you would not want to put yourself forward. You would not want to toot your own horn, so to speak. You would not want to to show yourself as being too enthusiastic about yourself. That would not be humble. In current theory, however, and the feminists have picked up on this quite a lot, in current theory, narcissism is not seen to be a negative thing in itself at all. That is to say, they have developed an idea that there is such a thing as healthy narcissism. In other words, we need to make a distinction between healthy narcissism and pathological narcissism. Now, healthy narcissism is something that takes a lot of work to develop in the psyche. The school of thought that I want to recommend to you to look at is the school of Heinz Kohut, I've mentioned it to you before, H-E-I-N-Z Kohut. And the name of this school of thought is self-psychology. In Kohut's work, it is emphasized that the child comes into the world with a grandiosity which is normal and natural. And this grandiosity is a healthy grandiosity for the infant. And what it needs is to be seen by the parents. It needs to be welcomed by the parents. We Jungians would talk about this somewhere in the neighborhood of the archetype of the divine child. That is to say that when the child comes into the world, what it needs is to be seen and admired and adored. And the technical word is mirrored. That the child needs to be mirrored. It needs to be seen and all eyes need to be on it. If there needs to be no rejection of its little claim to being a wonderful little god. And the task of the adults in its environment are to provide that adoration. You can think it's almost like a crash scene. You know, everybody gathers around. What you're supposed to do is you bring the sheep in, the goats and the camels. And everybody adores the child. And this is normal. See this is supposed to happen according to Kohut. And as the child develops, it is very important for the parents to provide this kind of excited enthusiastic blessing eye so that when the child is feeling wonderful, the child will be met by an attuned response which will say, yeah, you are pretty wonderful, aren't you? It's like one little boy that was a neighbor of mine one time. He was in visiting. He and his dad were in visiting with me. And he came in and he said, dad, he interrupted his dad. He said, dad, I really feel good today. Yeah, yeah. I feel so good that I think that I can have a BM so big that it will go down the Mississippi River and it will knock down all the bridges all the way to the ocean. And my friend said, wow. Which was what the Kohutians would say. That was a very attuned response. Instead of saying, get out of here. You know, he said, wow, you must really feel great today. Yeah, dad. Now, what happens is that optimally, you know, I mean that's supposed to happen optimally. The parent is supposed to be attuned and in touch and notice this and give the gleam in the eye to that divine child and that little child. And according to the Kohutian theory, if the parents do that, then the child will be able to accept this wonderfulness. And when he falls down or stubs his toe or something doesn't work quite right and he is upset, the parent because the parent is attuned will pick them up restore the sense of self and gradually the child will integrate that wonderfulness that that godlike wonderfulness into a sense of self esteem, a nice normal sense of self esteem that if the parent works with the child is as they come down from this great throne of godness and the parent doesn't let the child be unduly traumatized in the encounter with life, that gradually that that that god claim will gradually be, here's the technical word, transmuted and internalized. And what that simply means is that gradually that child will increase in self esteem, increase increasingly have a sense of self in the face of the challenges of life experiences. And whenever disappointments come, the sense of self will be so strong that the person the child will not the child and later adult will not get depressed too easily, not not become enraged too easily, but will be able to handle the difficulties of life without losing a sense of self. And it's a gradual process. They talk about here's another technical word.  And all by that, that means that that every time he stops his toe, you comfort. And every time they says, look how wonderful I am, they're seen. And you hope that they're seen well enough. And that there's enough parental enthusiasm and enough parental celebration, I call it parental blessing, so that that child gradually comes down off of the God claim into the human realm with a healthy sense of self esteem. Now, that's the way it's supposed to happen. But the problem is that a lot of the time, the person or persons who are supposed to be there paying attention or what, distracted, busy, tired, discouraged, preoccupied, drunk, whatever.  If there's somebody in the environment that the child can idealize with and snuggle up to, that the child can can see is wonderful. So in other words, if you can either see the child is wonderful or you can be adequate enough for the child to see you as wonderful, and let the child come up and be close to you and share in your wonderfulness. So, Colette says you can the child can get enough sense of being good, either by being mirrored adequately or by you being capable of being admired. Well, you know, Dad may be capable of being admired, but he may not be there. See, he may be gone or Dad may be abusive. If Dad is abusive, it ruins the child's ability to admire Dad. So, in other words, there are things that happen in the life of early childhood that keep this healthy sense of wonderfulness from developing and gradually coming down to human size. Now, what happens if the child either is not mirrored enough? That is, if the child does not get enough attuned, careful attention in celebration, or there isn't somebody in the environment for the child to admire and snuggle up to. Does this mean that this grandiosity that the child comes into the world with goes away? Not according to Kohut. According to Kohut in the self-psychologist, the grandiosity remains present, but gets this in its primitive form. You get that? Now, stay with that a minute. I want you to think about it because it's important for understanding this stuff. The child has this normal God claim. I'm just a little wonderful package of joy. And it's natural. Normal, healthy, needs to be met with this welcoming crash. If it is, that stuff transforms gradually and the child comes down off the throne to join the human race with healthy self-esteem. If it doesn't happen, and there's no one to idealize and merge with adequately, then the path, the infantile grandiosity does not go away. It stays primitive. What happens to it then? Well, various things can happen to it, which is what we want to talk about tonight. What happens to it is that it remains the grandiose self-organization in the psyche, or sometimes called the grandiose exhibitionistic self-organization. It remains an entity in the psyche. It is not transformed. It remains loaded with numinous energy, powerful energy, powerful claims.  This is the diagnostic and statistical manuals category called the narcissistic personality disorder. This is the person that acts as if they think either their God's gift to the world or their God giving a gift to the world. It is the person who believes that you exist to serve his or her whim. It is a person who makes all sorts of claims on others without feeling any need to reciprocate. It is the person with a compulsive need to be adored uncritically, uncritically. Now, this is the case, now stay with me on this, this is the case when that grandiose self-organization has not been transformed, it has remained primitive, and in this person it stays in control of the ego of the person. But that's only one way that this works. It also works another way. It can remain intensely present, but because of the parental environments not being welcoming to it, it is split off from consciousness. In other words, just because you don't think your God's gift to the world consciously, it does not mean you do not have this grandiose exhibitionistic self-organization rattling around in there in your psyche. What other forms can it take? Well, one form that it takes is chronic depression in a person. That is to say, the person is not aware at all of having any sense of Godlike claims or feeling Godlike. What you do notice, however, is that the individual feels himself or herself to be the object of perfectionistic attacks in their own thoughts. You see? Whatever they do, they may say, this is not good enough. I shouldn't be here, I am unworthy. Every time they have a creative project to do, they may start it and tear it up. Why? Not because the ego really feels this, but because behind the ego's consciousness, the grandiose self-organization in this primitive Godlike way is attacking every effort of the human ego. And there are many, many other forms that this takes. In other words, the important thing to get is that when the child has not been helped to come down from the high chair, this organization remains according to the self-psychologist. We'll get to the Jungian view of this in a little bit. But this organization remains intact. It either possesses the ego, in which case you have the narcissistic personality disorder, or it remains out of the ego's consciousness and influences the personality and life experience of the person from, so to speak, behind the scenes. And what I would like us to think together a little bit about is some of the ways in which this manifests, especially the one that's behind the scenes. How does this manifest? Well, it manifests in a number of ways. I have mentioned depression, chronic depression. Another way it manifests itself is in chronic, powerful, compulsive envy of other people. In other words, if you find yourself having a lot of struggles with the problem of envying other people, this is one expression of this grandiose self-organization within the psyche, not being accessible to your conscious mind, but creating in you envy attacks on other people. What in effect we're doing is we project the great self out there on others and envy it, as if we don't have connection with it. In other words, if we don't have connection with our own grandiosity, we do not have self-esteem. We don't have connection with our own grandiosity. We feel like we are nothing, and that makes everyone else around us look as if they have the good and we do not. We can't get to it. There is another important group of behaviors that we normally do not associate with this pathological narcissism, but which also manifests the presence near the ego of this grandiose self-organization, and that is the behaviors that we know as compulsive behaviors. In other words, according to the point of view of self-psychology, all addictive behaviors are an expression of the energy, the grandiose energies coming off of this grandiose self-organization and the individual ego or self-structure of the individual not being able to integrate this. The compulsive behaviors are in effect the psyche's struggle, you might even say it or I might even say attempts to ritualize, attempts to come up with rituals to contain this enormous God energy in the psyche to try to keep it under control in some way. In other words, compulsive behaviors are equally manifestations of this pathological infantile grandiosity. It's very important to see in this case that you cannot in any simplistic way moralize or blame this individual for the struggle that they're in. Can you see that? This is not their fault. They cannot be blamed for this at all.  According to this self-psychology, this is all manifestation of a struggle with an unconscious grandiose self-organization which is not being adequately related to by the individual ego or conscious mind. It's very important, yes? Yes, it would. Now we need to get a little sense. I'd like for you to think about this in the context of trying to become much more aware of certain types of behaviors that we all experience. That is to say, here is the assumption that I want you to entertain tonight. I want you to entertain the assumption that all of us had less than perfect childhoods. Right? And I want you to entertain the possibility that we didn't have enough camels and sheep standing around and admiring us at various times. And it's just possible that in every one of us in this room there remains some rather primitive aspects of this childhood grandiosity still around. Now if it is, there will be little signs of it. And I'd like to take just a little bit of time right now for us to work together on what some little clues may be that you may notice. Well, let's start. The self-psychologists are really wonderful in being empathic to people's struggle with their grandiosity. And what I love about the way they do this, they are not moralistic about this. They don't moralize at people about their struggle with their child, their infantile grandiosity. They are capable of being a good example for us Christians on this issue. There are a lot of these little signs. One, let's just go through a list. I'm going to give you a list of marks of recognizing this residual, untransformed, the way they talk about it. We'll talk to Jungian about it in a minute. But they talk about untransformed, untransmuted, primitive grandiosity that remains influencing you. Depreciation tendencies. That is, if you notice yourself spending a lot of energy depreciating yourself or other people, it's a dead giveaway. Now, people normally think that that is my eye. That's Robert, criticizing Robert. According to the self-psychologist, when Robert says to Robert, oh, you're never going to amount to anything. That's not the true self of Robert speaking to Robert. According to the self-psychologist, that is a voice coming off of the grandiosity. The grandiose self-organization in effect has a voice in my psyche. And it says to me, and conceivably, that was a lousy book that you published. Or you should have published two books, ten books, a hundred books. They all should have been better. You notice that split infinitive. Whatever. You put your own version of this. One of the things I like to do with groups of people is to have them write down these thoughts that they have about themselves. I will never blank. Or, you know, you're never going to ever learn so and so. You know, when you think fill in the blank with your own thoughts. According to self-psychology, these things are normally coming off of the grandiose self-organization. The punitive self-rejecting, discouraging thoughts are normally coming off of that. So anytime you notice depreciation of self or others, if there's a lot of energy going into depreciating other people, it's probably coming off of a primitive organization of the grandiosity. Why do you say that? Because if you've got your grandiosity in harness, according to the self-psychologist, you're spending it in creation. You're doing something useful with it. It's going into productivity. You don't have time to be criticizing other people. You're too busy doing something useful. So that's one form. We've talked about eating disorders. If you have any problem with eating disorders, overeating or bulimic kinds of patterns, this would be understood by self-psychologists as a direct expression of the struggle that you are have dealing with this thing in your psyche that has not been digested in effect. In other words, when you see someone struggling with a diet, you have right before you there a person that's struggling with the appetite of a giant within. It's not the true self of that individual that's that hungry all the time. It's the grandiose self-organization. Because see, the grandiose self-organization within is insatiable. You can't feed it enough. You can't feed it enough food. You can't feed it enough booze. You can't feed it enough drugs. You can't give it enough sex. So behind all the compulsive behaviors, the self-psychologists see see that organization insomnia. The self-psychologists see sleep difficulties as often directly related to this grandiose organization. And it can be related in this way. There are a number of things that happen to you when this thing is when the grandiose self-organization within is not adequately transformed and integrated. It tends to over-stimulate you. I think about this. It tends, when you're in touch with it, it tends to over-stimulate you. Insomnia, the self-psychologist would say is a mark of the fact that that the grandiose self-organization is getting you revved up too much. And you have not learned ways to calm yourself and to soothe yourself. Because this thing is too big. It's like I like to say to people that are trying to understand this. It's like a big excited Saint Bernard that smells the food and he starts lunging against the door. And so what you've got to do is try to find some way to calm him down. And a lot of people drink too much at night because they're so over-stimulated. They can't get down. They can't calm down so they can go to sleep. A lot of people in this country is full of valium junkies. People are taking enormous amounts of valium to cope with their unintegrated grandiose self-organization. But there are other ways in which this thing manifests besides over-stimulation. Now you can think of the various ways in which you may manifest types of over-stimulation of this thing within. But there's another thing that we see according to the self-psychologist and that is called defending against grandiosity. Now what forms does that take? For example, a person with extremely low self-esteem who does not feel that he or she is very important. Often the self-psychologist will say that person is defending desperately against the presence of the grandiosity. Why? Because there is a fear in the psyche that if they let themselves know anything about themselves being good or okay, this thing would roll in and take over. In other words, according to the self-psychologist, there is a fear of psychosis. When you see someone who is very meek and self-effacing, I have no self-esteem. Don't say anything good about me. Don't compliment me. For God's sake, don't notice me. According to the self-psychologist, that's very often a person, not a person who has no grandiosity within. But that's a person who's hold against it is so tenuous that if you pay too much attention to them, they begin to have enormous anxiety peaks. They start having enormous anxiety state. You may have noticed that some people you will try to compliment and they will push it away. They do not want to hear it at all. According to the self-psychology, these would be persons who have enormous struggle with this grandiose self-organization and you are actually threatening the structural integrity of their self by complimenting them. You see this? Now this has, you can imagine, this has enormous significance for spiritual direction because if you have such a person you're working with or you're trying to help and you are so eager to get them feeling better about themselves and so you start trying to say positive things about them. You start trying to build them up. You start trying to really give them good experiences that will make them not feel so bad. If you do not have some sense of the dynamics of this, you may be causing them enormous peaking in their anxiety state because they cannot stand you feeling good about them. One of the things that you as a spiritual director or a helping person once you understand this type of thing, you will know that you must be careful about overstimulating this grandiosity until the person can gain gradually greater and greater a sense of themselves, their own self structure so they can stand it. Now this is interesting in the light of our discussion about doing something with Satan. That is to say the redemption of that element, if that's an element in the psyche, that exhibitionistic part can't be fast. You've got to be, you've got to let that capacity to be seen, to be seen as beautiful grow very slowly. It can't be fast or it threatens the person with the disintegration of their self structure. Now this helps us to understand a lot of behaviors which are puzzling to us. A lot of creative personalities you may have noticed self-destruct when they get successful.  According to the self-psychologist this happens when people get too much attention, the success overstimulates them, the grandiose self-organization begins to threaten the integrity of their self and they start to medicate it or they start to act out which gets us to another form of expression of this difficulty. It is the concept that you've heard many times possibly acting out. When we say someone is acting out what do we mean? A lot of bizarre antisocial behaviors for one thing, violent behaviors, it often includes some sort of relatively bizarre interpersonal behaviors often including violence or bizarre sexual behaviors or other kinds of acting out conflicts that can't be understood in terms of the person's own grasp of themselves. But according to the self-psychologist people act out when they cannot stand the pressure of the grandiose self-organization anymore. Give you an example. If someone is struggling with a drug addiction and they are getting a handle on it and they're being able to function fairly well, if there is a disturbance in their relationships this will often lead to the grandiose self-organization becoming destabilizing again for them. And this is the time, according to the self-psychologist, that the individual will go back for more drugs. If you're working from this point of view with an alcoholic the alcoholic will not fall off the wagon until there is something that causes a disturbance which causes the grandiose self-organization again to destabilize the ego or what they call the self-structure of the individual. So the difficulty takes many forms. The ones that you and I see the most are the ones that we've talked about. Intense envy, depressive states, heightened anxiety, insomnia, compulsive behavior, what we know as manic phases, sleeplessness, that sort of thing. According to the self-psychologist, the integrity of the human ego of the person, because the grandiosity was never integrated and built up in the self-esteem and self-structure the person is very very subject to splitting behaviors of all kinds. Often your so-called multiple personalities will be individuals for whom the grandiose self-organization is so powerful that they cannot maintain the structural integrity of oneself. And we'll see in a moment when we turn to the Jungian way of thinking about this the way in which from a Jungian point of view we split into archetypal configurations at these times. That is to say when the grandiose self-organization is still primitive and raw we will tend to become archetypes not persons. Any self-soothing kinds of compulsive rituals in some way that we might do there are people that that can't do anything but come home and read at night. They sit there and read. Other people can't read because of the overstimulation. One of the things that we do in self-psychological treatment of persons is to help them recognize when their grandiosity is becoming overwhelming. You begin to help the person tell when they're getting to the point that they're about to come apart. Let me just say a word about their view of how this is healed the self-psychologist view of how this is healed. Very simply the person gets into therapy with an analyst who understands this business. The analyst tries to provide for the individual a mirroring of this grandiosity, an attunement to the grandiosity, a non-attack on it. You try to welcome the awareness of this grandiosity into the consulting room. Very interesting. The therapist tries to help the person get in touch with an awareness of these grandiose feelings. In other words it's not good for them to stay out of awareness because if they're out of awareness you can't do much about them. So the therapy proceeds in trying to help the individual become more aware of this grandiosity and a finding ways to be more accepting of it and to be able to deal with it in constructive ways. To get the energy, now get this, this sounds familiar to Jungians doesn't it, there is energy in that grandiosity. There is energy for life. This is what I was thinking about when John was talking about the energy for life. There is energy for living in that grandiose self organization and because of the failures in parenting that person has never been able to plug in to that grandiosity in an adequate way and to have that grandiosity fuel their life with zest and vitality and energy toward actual human endeavors, toward realizable human ambition and that sort of thing. And so what the self-psychology therapy tries to accomplish is helping the individual not to feel bad about their grandiosity. That's not the idea at all. It's really kind of amusing. You try to help the person feel good about their grandiose fantasies. Yes, yes one particular example that I thought was very interesting. After a long time in therapy with a self-psychologist, this one woman who was 52 finally felt accepted enough and mirrored enough to bring out her fantasy.  Now it took her a long time to get to where she could admit this to the therapist. And so what their therapy attempted to do was to have her stop feeling so much shame about that fantasy. Think about the Batman movie and all that stuff in this light. All these hidden away superheroes, Batman, Superman. But to help her feel good about her fantasy about wanting to be a rock star. And what she started to do is figure out ways that she can bring some of the energies off of that jenis jumpin into the workplace. So she went to work and gradually she announced to her co-workers, look out now. I'm coming down here in a new way. In other words, she began to bring in a lot more of her grandiose exhibitionistic energy into her personality and expressing it at work.  If you're not in touch with it, you're kind of boring. So the idea is to help individuals plug into that, not feel shame about it, but to plug into that and to learn to do now what they didn't learn to do as a child, learn to feel okay about this grandiose fantasy, and to gradually try to find ways to embody this. Now let's turn to look at a way, a Jungian way of thinking about this very same business. Now again we talked a little bit about the importance of the relationship between the ego and the archetypal self. And we talk about how Jungian's eddinger in particular has helped us talk about the need for the formation of the ego self-axis. Now you should be able to think about what a Jungian would say about some of the things we've been talking about. That is to say the archetypal self carries that grandiose energy that we've been talking about.  You can either be too close to it in the sense of you can become identified with it like the narcissistic personality disorder, you could say that the narcissistic personality disorder is identified with it, or you can be in terms of your ego out of touch with it consciously. Now what we ought to be able to see however is just because the ego does not know itself to be in touch with the archetypal self it doesn't mean it isn't. In other words when you're not plugged in adequately to your archetypal self it doesn't mean that your archetypal self is not in there. What is going on? Usually the archetypal self is in your shadow much more. The archetypal energies are in your shadow and you will normally project those things. You will either project them onto someone else or you will act them out in some way unconsciously. We can talk about manic depression as an individual who sometimes will get too much of a dose of archetypal energy and then also laid away and get too little of it accessible to the ego. Very similar to the way the psychoanalytic self-psychologist talked about the energies of the grandiosity. But one of the things that I think is important for us to see about the contribution of Jungian thought is that from the Jungian point of view you can see that the human personality is very very creative about ways of being grandiose. You can be grandiose in a lot of different ways not just one. You don't just have the narcissistic personality disorder if you think about this from a Jungian point of view. You can be grandiose and be acting out in any one of a number of configurations and what I want to do with you before we stop and discuss I want us to go through some of the different configurations in which the infantile grandiosity you might say can be expressed in different archetypal configurations in different psyches and let's go through them now and then we will discuss all this stuff. What they talk about is the narcissistic personality disorder the one we talked about about the person that thinks they're God's gift to the world is in my view an example of an individual who is experiencing an archetypal inflation in the mode of the king or the queen it's very interesting to think about the narcissistic personality disorder as sort of a boy king sitting on his high chair expecting everybody to adore him expecting everybody to mirror him expecting everybody to bless him for himself to become the center of the world the the narcissistic personality disorder is said to be incapable of love and in this case you would say that the individual expects the energies to come toward him not to go out he's not to be giving out yet attention normally he's saying that he's observed this in a case that he's that he's worked with if the individual has been you know you can get to be a narcissistic personality disorder and kind of think you're the boy king or the boy the girl queen in a lot of ways you can be pampered see pampering will do it because one of the important things that these people uh that work with us talk about is that you have to be let down from your little high chair thrones gradually if they knock you off your high chair thrown by hitting and beating you up as a child it doesn't it doesn't transform this stuff it doesn't integrate as self-esteem you have to be let down gradually and uh when they don't let you down gradually and they uh knock you down you can continue to be this type of personality or if you are so wonderful to your parents that they never let you think you're anything but a little god then you haven't learned from your parents that you're not a little god you haven't learned it in incremental doses so if you've been extremely pampered by a doting parent you have had that grandiosity not gradually transformed into self-esteem it has remained raw you're still a little god on the high chair or goddess on the high chair so this is the one that they know most about in terms of the literature you see this this form of the narcissistic personality disorder most clearly but it can also be expressed if the warrior archetypal pattern is loaded with archetypal energy and in that case it doesn't come out as a little lord fontleroy on his high chair how would you suggest that an inflated warrior the grandiosity coming out in the form of the warrior would express itself like ramble in violence the violent personality who is go who goes into rages a lot and who acts out violently a lot uh you see the the boy warrior or the girl warrior sometimes i've helped i've worked with a number of people who've been battered by their wives he says uh couldn't that also be people who get fanatical about causes and that would be absolutely an expression of that uh you can talk about the way in which the the messianic warrior comes out in this uh when a person gets into some particular uh social movement or social cause and it takes the one of the interesting things about it you can always tell when it's an inflation because it's so one sided in other words that consumes the individual's life and this is one of the things another form it takes that's not as bizarre as that the one i'm more subject to is workaholism see the obsessive compulsive personality is in many ways just as inflated as the narcissistic personality disorder it's just that the obsessive compulsive the in the obsessive compulsive it's going into the warrior configuration see the warrior is into working carrying out the mission and nothing is important but the mission the family is not important feelings are not important the family the children are not important nothing is important except the mission when you see people that are into professional careers uh to the exclusion of all relationships you see an inflation and what i would consider a grandiose pathologically infantile inflation in the warrior configuration uh this is a very common one among uh professionals particularly among the you know yuppies today i mean you'll see a lot of them who get totally fixated upon this and somehow don't understand what's happening when they cannot get shifting any gears into building a family for example there seems to be no energy for having a family life and no energy for any kind of intensive committed relationships now what about a grandiose inflation in the magician or the priest or priestess how would that manifest itself anybody take a stab at it could be a pseudo messiah although messiahs tend to be more activist they tend to be more kind of warrior kings but uh uh there are some aspect the the the religious nowhere the one who has the religious message would be an example of that i think that may be what you're getting at other other examples of that yes you could go see when you're inflated when you're inflated in a grandiose way in in the magician you want to know everything and you don't want to do anything see you want to know everything before you do anything and this is like you know you see this a lot in us professors because you know if there's any kind of crisis going on in society or anything you know somebody gets hit by a car we will have a commission to study it we won't call an ambulance we'll study it there's something can be learned by this you know it's like it's like what we do in chicago we got all these homeless people you know we got we got people in terrible straits but by academic colleagues we're in the studying it and it's a magus inflation that's one form it takes what are some other forms that a magus inflation will take back here when the therapist or counselor gets into a power trip with the patient and and and is locked into the counselor's own agenda rather than being empathic with the person they're working with uh this is one that the self psychologists talk about a lot that is to say just because you think you know what the the patient feels doesn't mean you do and they they put a great deal of of emphasis on empathy trying to feel your way into the to the actual states feeling states of the individual if you're really into a power trip as a therapist in this magus inflation you won't do that but there are other things that you talk tell me more about therapists here in this this is a this is one that we therapists major in we therapists really get inflated in the magician thing a lot what are some other expressions of that schizoid absolutely that is to say that that if you're locked into this in an inflation you may not look at all arrogant to somebody looking at you but if you are if you are grandiose in the magician form you will pull out of relationships emotionally that's what he means by schizoid you will not be experiencing much energy in your feeling function with individuals you will get you you will get more into that knowing business you see others yes supermom or super dad i think supermom and super dad more more come in this in this one the person who is locked into mothering and can't do anything but mother oh i see i see having all the answers anybody that anybody that is into just always having all the answers has got a lot of this there's no question about it but i'm thinking when you've got somebody that if it moves they mother it you know they mother the husband they mother the kids they mother the car you know they're in this one and of course with the warrior if it moves they fight it we won't talk about this one yet oh yes let's do now let's get to the inflated the grandiose lover what are some of the forms that this takes when the grandia okay promiscuity is one and that's the one we talked about the other day in terms so many men or women in so little time there's never enough opportunities to engage in seduction or sexual activity that's one but there are other expressions of grandiosity in the lover what are some of the other expressions of the pathological grandiosity as it manifests in this configuration never enough relationships that's kind of a form of promiscuity there are a lot of people who you know they they develop a lot of of intimate relationships and they're very they're very quick to tell you that that they're not genital relationships but i mean they're very faithful to their spouse it's just that they have all of these intimate relationships all over the country and they get very upset when the spouse is jealous uh this this constant seeking out new exciting relations this is Aphrodite this is an expression of the Aphrodite energy the thing about you read bejean boland's book on Aphrodite see Aphrodite really loves every man she sees she really loves him just that's when another one comes along he's beautiful too and she loves him she just she just sees all this beauty but what are some other expressions of inflation or grandiosity in the lover configuration yes now that would be he says the what about the sexual abuse appliance or patience i would think that that could be argued to be an expression of this coming blasting through the shadow side of the therapist a lot of therapists you know don't tend to their personal lives enough in fact uh some of the people they've written about therapists say that they that therapists tend to be for yours and they don't spend enough time developing their personal life and therefore this side of their personality is not getting enough energy normally consciously and so it's in the shadow and so often the the lover will come blasting through uh with these uh with these grandiose energies and uh one of the interesting things about there was a very prominent uh uh therapist who who was acting out in the way you're talking about and the amazing thing was that when confronted about it by his colleagues he could not he couldn't understand what they were upset about that's one of the one of the uh expressions of grandiosity see when when when confronted he couldn't he couldn't what's wrong with you people i'm you know i'm this is this is important for these people you know i'm helping them see uh and it was a clearly a possession state so that would be a good example co-dependence is a clear one one of the things that that that i had pointed out to me about this was that a lot of the time you can see the addictions as disorders in the lover as a grandiosity in the lover because the individual comes out and and falls in love with some substance or falls in love with really loves boots really loves food and uh there's a there's a lot of talk about about uh addictions as disorders of the lover other examples yes falling in love with love yes that is this this energy is so powerful you see it's numinous it's sacred when it's expressed in this when it's expressed in this form yes right here he's don says would child sexual abuse be in this category uh in my in my view i tend to see it there because uh a lot of people say you know a lot of people will say that there is no there's no love or affection and child sexual abuse i'm not sure they're right about that i think maybe you see the lover when it is in a grandiose form grandiose state it's polymorphous perverse if it's a dominant if it's a big domination thing it would be the warrior to be the warrior but uh but a lot of the time you see this when one is in this state this is the this is the part of the self that is uh is uh capable of being sexual with anything you know persons places things you name it or the demanding of elaborate gifts and in order that the offering or or demanding i think it would be more the offering of of of elaborate gifts uh the uh the compulsive expression of loving the important thing to see and let's just discuss this now a little bit more the important thing to see is that there's not one form that a grandiosity will take the grandiose energies the archetypal press can be expressed in any of these patterns and so rather than just seeing it as as a narcissistic personality disorder if you take a Jungian point of view then you can see that when you're when you're mainlining these energies like this they can come out in any of these ways now let's do something a little different before we stop we've been emphasizing what happens when you're mainlining when you're shooting up this archetypal energy and it comes out in one of the other forms what about when you're not getting enough of the archetypal energy in these different configurations remember when john was talking about spirituality is putting you in touch with the energy for life what happens when you don't get enough energy to light up these configurations let's go through them again what would you say what happens to an individual how would you tell an individual who was out of touch with archetypal energy in this one give me an example well how so she says mr. milk toast how so what how is that not getting energy here no okay she says not doing anything being flat one of the things that uh that you you could argue is that an individual who has no power drive probably has no no energy going into this configuration of the king no power drive no expression of attempt to build anything if an individual has no no impetus to build anything at all then this is not being fueled by archetypal energy child abandonment is very interesting that is the individual simply is not experiencing any of their king or queen circuits i think this happens a lot today when the career takes all of the energy or this takes all of the energy and the children are left yes in other words dependency will often be a manifestation inability to stand up to some other initiative would be an example if you have a lot of king or queen energy it's not easy to run over you you got you know you have your own if you have a lot of king or queen energy you've got you you you're pretty centered one thing about you even if you have it in a pathological form it's awfully hard to run over you okay what about what about not having enough of the archetypal energy going into the warrior configuration what will an individual be like yes you're all very good tonight she says passive aggressive behavior absolutely right and then if you've got somebody that's passive aggressive this is not being fueled enough with archetypal energy and one of the things you have to work with i gave a series of lectures on the warrior archetype recently and that was one of the points that i made that there is so much passive aggression around i mean it's just like it drives you nuts especially if you're if you're if you're trying to be aggressive and you're in a room full of passive aggressive people a committee you know what else would you say about that besides passive aggression yeah yeah laziness that is what we would call laziness if i feel lazy you know laziness doesn't tell you anything it doesn't just a kind of a description of what you're not doing but so you say sloth so called the the sin of sloth would be an example of just this not being fueled in other words if this is being fueled you won't have a feeling of aimlessness because the warrior part of you will find the mission and if you don't have a sense of mission this is not being fueled see anything else you can see there apathy would be another example depression can often come under that i think depression is a manifestation as a manifestation can come off of of all of these because the depression to me is is is a clear manifestation that the individual is just not i got the speaker turned on enough you know they're not they're not they're not lighting up enough you know yeah back here excuse me non-competitive she says in other words if you tend to be a person that just has a hard time understanding why anybody would want to compete in anything the chances are this is not getting fueled the uh the warrior spirit uh enjoys it kind of kind of gets off on it procrastination is another example uh in other words if if you're having trouble completing things uh i know nobody here has that problem but but if you have trouble if you have trouble getting projects completed this would not be getting fueled what about this one yes would would would manipulation come under lack of fuel for the magician well i i don't know what do you think being manipulated might be and and they say allowing oneself to be manipulated see what would happen is you would not you would not be very reflective if this is not being fueled you won't think a lot about what's happening with you and other people see you won't be this is the archetype of awareness you will not be very aware of what's happening in your environment you know there are a lot of people who are surprised when their spouse walks out they didn't notice anything wrong see well that's because this wasn't receiving any fuel uh if this is receiving fuel one is very aware of the dynamics of everything and everybody around okay what else did you say that would be one way see if you didn't if you don't have this fuel that means you have to have somebody else be your magician well the she says hypochondria uh that would be not being able to figure out what all these physical symptoms about that is to say people tend to somaticize when they're not very aware psychologically so that's a very subtle point you see that that is you'll find that people who are not very psychologically aware whose magician is not getting enough fuel they would just have a lot of body symptoms nothing's wrong in my life but i just have all these bodily symptoms that's what they call in the literature of somatization and what about a person who's not having the lover fueled yes she says sexual dysfunctions like impotence or fragility absolutely very interesting to work with people who were who are living their life as if this was not even a configuration in their psyche it's very interesting you know they can so there are many many marriages that have that make no place at all for the lover configuration and it gets no energy by either part of the couple in fact they come into therapy and they'll often say well i just don't know what's wrong i just i just don't guess i know how to to be a lover and the thing that always fascinates me is when they get an extra marital relationship going they learn awfully fast take a crash course in this but that this is this is an excellent point there's just no energy going into that the person is completely tone deaf about buying flowers they can't buy flowers they can't go away for the weekend they can't get a lock on their bedroom door it's just amazing they can't think of any of those things any other expressions of of this there are a lot of expressions of this yes now how would isolation be an expression of not having that fueled in other words if this is being fueled the person is enthusiastic about the world and they're going out to it this is sort if this is if this is not being fueled by any archetypal energy the poet in the person won't be online see they won't be they won't be feeling poetically about anybody or anything the the writer in them won't be online what else okay now that's interesting she says she says bad choice of a love relationship or perhaps going after someone that's already involved in another relationship it would be an example of that because a lot of the time if a person has edible conflicts this is an example of someone who is very conflicted about this they're they're afraid to put much energy into this and what they will do is they'll be so insecure about this that they will always arrange to be with people that won't really challenge them much and always go with quote safe people married people you know they think that they won't get a divorce you know they think that the other person won't get a divorce yeah okay yeah don nobody's big boredom no but that's a wonderful example boredom that is if you're if your lover is getting any fuel any archetypal energy then you're never bored with with things things are exciting to you you you're constantly interested in things and the world is more like the garden see for you I mean it's a delightful place and you just you just wish you had four or five more lifetimes so you could enjoy everything yes she says that a lot of the time uh due to the compensatory dynamics in the psyche of person that's that's not getting enough would look like they're getting too much energy that's right see one of the things you got to look at in this is that wounds in one's narcissism can result in either too much fueling or not enough and so the pathology will express itself in different forms and the goal of course in what we've talked about is spirituality certainly from a Jungian point of view is to have contact with these energies for life but have contact with them in a way that fuels and serves life and doesn't destroy life doesn't disintegrate the personality doesn't lead them to have to act out but enables them to have enough of this energy so that life can be full and life can be joyful uh I think we're out of time I want to thank you and I'll stick around a little while if you want to discuss this further thank you very much


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