Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E-C-E-O and I'm here with the lovely official, Ms. Jamaica, what's going on baby? Not my dad. Man, it's going down man, hey man, we got somebody in here today you know she's experienced, she's not new to being in front of the cameras, I'm pretty sure she used to that too. She been around for a while, the people know her. Ladies and gentlemen, I ain't never said that before, ladies and gentlemen. Tase your legs, how are you doing baby? I am great, how are y'all? Man, you here, you in the building man. I'm in here. So, yeah, it's good to meet you. Nice meeting you too.  Yes sir. Little lady, is she a lady? Lady, I ain't going anywhere.  Girl, you find out. No, you ought to be happy about that, for real. I am, I am. That's dope. I think my parents, I think my parents. Are they like that too? Yeah, they look pretty young. Wow, that's dope. Where are you, where are you originally from? You from Dallas? I'm originally from Columbus, Ohio. Whoa! Yeah, a lot of people don't know that. I didn't know that. I'm originally from Columbus, Ohio, and then I grew up in Fort Worth. Oh, you from Stop Six? You know, I mean graduated from Dunbar. Well, it means you would do something to you. You'd better put your purse up. Don't walk down the alley late at night. I don't do nothing unless I'm a boy. Tase your legs, it's on the move.   So, okay, let's go back. Yes, let's go back. How far back? As far back as you can remember. Damn. You about to be really talking about some, go ahead, let's just talk about it. We ain't got nothing but time. Okay, let's do it, let's do it. How was it growing up in Fort Worth when you were a kid? What about Ohio? Let's go out on the back, because I don't know how old you were. Ohio, I don't really remember, because I was still very young. As far back as she can remember. It would be Fort Worth for me, that's where I was raised. How old were you when you got to Fort Worth? Three? Okay, all right, she's straight stop, six baby, let's go. Yeah, I think it was about three, so I was raised in Fort Worth, but growing up in Fort Worth, I was always the sore thumb, I always stuck out, like I was always very different from everybody. Small town, but like, I was one of them kids, I always watched a lot of music videos, I was always into music, so it was like my escape from everything. So I was the different one, I was the one that kind of was cool with everybody, I'm still like that, I had friends that walk all different walks of life, so that was me in Fort Worth. I was kind of like the person that was just like neutral with everything, I was cool with everybody. Like I could be with the hood, I could be with the suburb kids, I could be with everybody, so that's how I was raised, and my parents are originally from Michigan. So my dad's from Jackson, so not too far from Detroit, and my mom's from Ann Arbor. So we were first generation South, so being the first kids in the South, I was still raised like, you know like parents of North, it was like a little different. We weren't taught to say like yes ma'am and no sir and stuff like that's unheard of, it's more looked at as like, this ain't no slave, this ain't no slave shit, so yeah, so we were just raised very different, but then it's like we were in the South. And that's so funny when you said that because I remember when my mom moved here from Jamaica, and I would always tell, and the kids would answer her and say yes ma'am, she's like, don't call me ma'am, what you call me ma'am, but back home I remember when I was a kid, and my mom would call me and I'd be like yes, and my grandma would be like, don't answer her to say yes ma'am, that's how we, yes ma'am or yes mommy or you know, whatever, it wasn't just yes, you know what I mean? So it's just the same thing here, it's just that you can't just be as a child saying, yes or no or you know, you have to say, I was raised the same way.  Ooh, that woman here, I'm a cream. Really? What, she was cream. Why? She didn't want me to call ma'am, she was like, we are not in the South. Why you see, so the South is the only one doing that? Yeah, she felt like that was like a thing. Well, it's a different. Because of slavery, that's what she was saying. Yeah, she was like, I don't want to be called ma'am. I never thought of that. I never thought of that. I thought it was a sign of respect. Yeah, it's a sign. But you say it's not. It's not. You still think it's not.  I just want to know what you think. Because when you watch a movie, you're very just, yeah. I mean. No, you was a young type person. No, I say yes. Yes. It's the same thing. I say yes. Real flat out. I already know you not really that. I'm gonna be like. No, no, we couldn't say yes. So it's an old, did you go to school here? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You gonna say yes to me? Yeah. Yeah. We're on boss talk. You know what I'm talking about? So, you know. Yeah. So it's like, so in school, did the teacher say yes ma'am? Cause this was the thing. Yes, it was. How did you get around it? How did I get around saying that? I was very quiet actually. Oh yeah? Yeah. I was a quiet kid. If you was very quiet, you were quiet so you wouldn't have to say yes ma'am. I was quiet so I didn't have to answer nobody. I hated being questioned and stuff like that. So I was one of those kids. I was very much so like, to myself in my imagination was like. So you weren't a trouble kid then? No, I wasn't like really a trouble. Or a teacher's pet, which one? Kinda. I was kinda like the teacher's pet but then I was cool. So I was cool with everybody at the same time but like my teacher was like, ooh, we just love teachers. She's so good. But teenage years was just a little bit different for me. I was, whew, I was wild. What was the wildest thing you did as a teenager? Let me just tell you, she was fast. I can tell what she said. The wildest? No, I wasn't fast. Yeah, she was fast. She said it. No, no, no. I was fast. Let's talk about wild. What you do? What you had a third A? Fights. A lot of fights. You had a third A snub, no? No, I did fight a lot though. Okay. I fought a lot. Boys, girls, anybody. Like you were getting, wasn't it because you were smaller? You were like, I gotta get with you. I think it was just like. That tests you. Yeah, they tested me. Because you don't have a knife. No, I ain't caring. Well, I got a knife pulled on me when I was like 11 in Las Vegas. We had just moved up there. And I was, I was bad, you know, I whooped somebody. Yeah, he was bad. So I had a fight with this boy at school, right? I had just moved to Vegas, Northside. And I was at school. Yeah. And I was walking home me and my brother and sister. And the same boy I had fought, I don't know why he lived on my way home. What? He jumped out with a knife and was like, I was like, whoa. And we were country. We had never seen it like that. And I never walked that way again for about six months. What did you do, your aunt? Yeah, I had to run. And what do you do when somebody put a knife on you to be 11? Right, what do you do? Run. No. You're not going to fight him. I had no gun or nothing. I just like, I already whooped him. See in Jamaica, you have rocks everywhere. Just pick up a rock and start throwing it. See. And run. And run. So what did you do that caused you to feel like it was bad, like the craziest thing that you can remember having? Oh, I moved out of the house when I was 15. Really? You don't look like the type. And you were raised with your mom and dad? I was typically, yeah. Well, my parents lived in two separate homes, but I spent same amount of time with my mama and my daddy. My daddy was very much so in my life, so. So you didn't feel like he was absent, so to say? In certain times. How old were you when they broke up? Five. So. Yeah, so for the longest, I felt like it was, you know, like my fault, you know. I blame myself a lot. Why? So that's when you became a troubled child. Yeah, I was a daddy's girl. Okay. So when my dad left. And then you stayed with mom? And I stayed with mom, so I felt like, was it because of me?  Most kids always feel that way. Yeah, I felt like it was. I didn't feel that way. Are you an only child? No, no. How many of y'all? There's six of us total. And you the youngest? No, I'm in the middle. You're in the middle. Okay. I'm in the middle. You really, you was basically feeling like, okay, he left because of me? Out of all these other jokers, it was just you, really? Well, at the time it was only me and my two sisters. Okay. And my little brothers came later. Okay. And then I have an older half brother. Okay. And so, yeah. Yeah, I felt like it was, you know, my fault. Cause I was the closest to both of my parents. I'm still like. Did you used to visit like your dad's? Yeah, yeah. We spent like summers there. He lived in Fort Worth? No, my dad actually lived in Dallas. So you get to come to the D. What part? Yeah. Oh, that's the good part. Yeah. So you went from one style of living to the next? Exactly. So my life was always about duality. You know? So like, with my mom, we lived in the projects. We lived on section eight. Which is dope. We lived on food stamps. Me too.  It made you versatile. No, no, no. It made you strong. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was on food stamps. But then my dad's house, it was totally different. Like we lived in North Dallas. Yeah. We shopped at Sam's Food Club. We learned how to sell candy. Like we doing all kinds of stuff. Entrepreneurship at an early age. Exactly. Stuff like that. But it was different, you know? But back to the projects you go. Yeah. I always had to go back there. Did you ever ask your dad, why do we have to live over there? Why can't I live with you? Yeah, and he, yeah, that was a big thing actually. Like that was a big question.  He was like, I can't. Like I'm over here. I have another family as well. Yeah. So, you know. But as a kid, that made you feel probably like an outcast. Yeah. So that's why I was a rebel. Right. I might not good enough to be over here with your other family. Exactly. We about to pull up out of that. But go back to. I know what you're trying to do. Look. No, go back to the reason why you say that you, as a high school kid, what was the biggest thing that you did? Yeah. And it was living on my own at 15. Well, not necessarily like living by myself, but typically I was alone. Like I was living with different people. So did you just tell your mom that I'm devious? Yeah, so what happened was my mom, was dating a guy. Like my brother's dad, he was 20 years younger than my mom. So it was almost like having like a bigger, like an older brother in the house. He wasn't mature at all. He was doing all kinds of stuff. And I was the person that always seen everything. You know, and one time I remember I came in the house and he was doing something to my mom. I'm like, yo, if you don't let my mom go, like. Yeah, I'm a kid. It's gonna go down. And you had two older sisters. Where were they? Yeah, so my oldest sister is actually 12 years older than me. So they left. So she's gone. She has her own family. Yeah, so she there by herself. Exactly. And then my younger sister, she's three years younger than me, but she was so young. She don't remember much. So it was me. You know what I mean? So. Did you jump on him? I wanted to. But my mom was like, no. Of course, yeah. Yeah. And she was like, just leave. And I'm like, just leave. That's like baby boy. Yeah. She was like, just leave. I'm like, for right now. Did you cry? She's like, no, I'll get up out of here. Like, you need to go. And you did. And I left. Did you cry? I did. I cried a lot. Did you, just like baby boy. Just like baby boy. He cried, too. When he was like, you like, don't call me.  What? He was like, baby boy. There you go. There you go. It was a baby boy moment. For real. When you see the movie, did you think about it? I did. My cousin did, too. Because he called me, but like, man, that movie hit like home. I was like, damn, I remember he was going through that. He did hit home for me. Like, for real? He was crazy. He was thrown off. I knew he was, I knew it got him. Because he was like, this is the best movie I ever watched in my life. Yeah, nigga. He was watching his life. That's right.   No. You know, that's a question that my mom still asked me until this day. She's like, did he ever, like, try anything? I said, nah, never. If anything, it was more like violent type of things, like trying to discipline us and taking it too far, you know, something like that. It doesn't be the worst of all. You know, but it was never nothing like inappropriate, anything like that. I see that on, I think it was growing up hip hop where the dude comes in. I think he was dating Palpa, and he was going, all right, we have a family meeting, but they don't know this nigga. Right, it's like, and who were you? They don't know him. He just pulled up on the block. And that was me. Like, who were you to tell me anything? I got a daddy. So what did your daddy say whenever she put you out? He wasn't trying to hear that anyway. Well, when I originally left, I went to like my godmother's house. I went to her house and she was by herself. It was cool. It was cool. She was by herself. She had a foreign exchange student at her, at her house. She was from Laos. My godmother is from Puerto Rico, like straight from Puerto Rico. So it was like, I had that part of me too. You know what I'm saying? Like I had so many different parts to me. Like when I was in that house, that's how I was raised. You know, like I was raised like... But don't you know that it's only God that was molding you? No, for real. That's the dope part about it. Because I can relate to so many people. Right. He opened up so many avenues to give you that imagination of know how to deal with, as you said, all those things. Right. And it was always thrown at me. It was always thrown at me. So it's just like... And you dealt with it very well. Yeah, I just dealt with it. I didn't back down from it. I was just like, hey, this is my situation. So... Really? Let's keep it rolling.   I definitely was. So you just really just shifting around town with a bag and a stick. You know what I'm talking about? No, you ain't lying. Y'all love gym bags. Y'all love gym bags. Did you finish high school? Did you finish high school doing all that? So that's crazy. I actually dropped out of high school. You know how to hear them. You don't know that. Yeah, I dropped out for three months. Wow. And I came back into school. It was one of my friends that convinced me, like, yo, you need to get back in school. You're too smart for this. You need to graduate, all that. So I ended up getting back in school and... And you were living with your godmother at that time. I don't know where I was at that time. Baby, no. She was shifting and moving it. Yeah, I shifted. Oh, matter of fact, it was a family that took me in. It was a friend of mine that was on the step team. Her mom took me in. That's how you start liking the music? It was how I started liking everything and entertaining. She taught me everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She taught me how to hustle. That's what I'm thinking. She taught me how to get in the clubs and sell a table to somebody. Oh, really? She taught me all of that. Shout out to what's her name? Oh, I call her Mama. Mama, shout out to her. Mama. You have so many mamas. I do. I love mamas. So when this happened, as you start getting into this, okay, you drop out of high school for three months, then you come back. I went back to school. Number five in my class. Don't. Awesome. Yo, with a 3.8 GPA. My daughter needed to be here to hear this, which she makes straight A's, but let's keep going. So you really just went back and was like, how did you shift and get it right? In the midst of all this moving around? Honestly, it was my track coach. Wow.  So you did track, you did step. Could you wait a minute? Stop. Dang. I didn't let none stop me. What did you do in track? I ran the four by one. And I put hurdles. Seriously.  I was on time. So you know, everybody, that's not the arm. You're not going to come on here. No, I can run. You just be anything you want to be up in here. Like that? I can run. Listen, man. You don't have to do that up in here. You don't have to come up in here and be like, be all that you can be. I can run. Okay. So you can do the hurdles and everything. Yeah. But you like. I actually did. And how tall are you? Five, six. Wow. Yeah, I can really run. That was like my little escape. So my track coach was the one that was like, she seen me as a troubled teenager and she was like, oh, I'm saving this one for real. Like she kept me like up under her. She gave me my first journal. She taught me how to do all that. Like she always kept up with me. Did she have other kids? No, she didn't have no kids. Do you keep up with her now? So I haven't been able to keep up with her because she bounces around a lot. She's still a track coach still to this day. Like she ran with Mary and Jones and everything. She went to OU. She had a big name. So like, she's still doing her coaching. Yeah, she's still doing her coaching and everything. But I ran into her not too long ago after a gig at a field city. What did she say? And she was just like. She over there getting some taco. She was getting some taco. I told her she knew what she was doing.  He knew exactly who I was and everything. He's like, she always talks about you. I'm amazed. Like all these years. So you know that's God. You know me, I'm a God man. So I talk about God on every situation when it get good is God. When it was bad, it was the devil. So listen, man, that's dope. I like it. She saved me. So as a child, okay, so when you were in high school, what did you want to be? I didn't know. I was one of those people that was confused. I didn't know what I wanted to do, but I was good at a lot of things. So I had like a very artistic background. My mom always sent us to like a art school during the summer. And I was the one that had like my stuff on display at the Fort Worth Art Museum and stuff like that nine years old. Did your mom support you as she was going through all of these different things and she seen you going through it? Did she get it right somewhere in the midst of it? I can say that she was always super supportive, although she didn't always know how to show up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She would do what she could. But what about her mama? How was she? Oh, very kind of. What, standoffish? Yeah, very standoffish, not very affectionate. That's what I'm trying to tell. He doesn't want to worry. I know it's stemming from something. But that's a conversation we've had recently. Yeah, my dad was like that and not like exactly like you were going through. But he had his issues, but I couldn't blame him after I looked at, you know. Not knowing. Well, yeah, because his father, the way their relationship was. So you have to have some compassion for the people who go through stuff too. I think a lot of times we get angry and angry, you know, pretty much it expresses itself and out of control. And our parents are everyday people too. Exactly, just people. That's exactly right. But as we get older and you know all of these things and if you're still blessed enough to have your parents or your grandparents, I always say sit down and have a discussion. Because a lot of us were raised where you don't talk to your older parents, your parents, grandparents, anybody older, you don't have those discussions because you're still a child no matter how old you get. But if you don't bring awareness to certain people, anybody older, younger, they don't know that what they're doing is incorrect. And there's no such thing as too old to change. So that's what I always say. They may ask you this. Let me ask a couple of questions.  Do you ever ask about some of the things concerning some of the things you were challenged with when you was growing up? Yes, and that's the reason why I said that. It's from experience. Because like from my personal experience, it was a case, that's why I always say no matter how much, when you're raising kids, no matter how much you are trying to do everything you can, there's always something you're missing. You know what I mean? Because as a parent, we overcompensate for something that we were missing in our childhood. I do agree. And by doing that, you miss on something else. So my mom would always tell me, would always give me hugs and tell me, I love you, but she would never say, I'm proud of you. So that's something I was missing. I felt like, you know, it's three of us. I'm the only girl, but you never said, all the things I've done, you never turned to me and say, I'm proud of you, I'm proud of what you did. You accomplished, you know? So as I got older.  My dad was the affectionate one. He never did that. Oh, he was the affectionate one. Oh, he was the affectionate one. Of course, he's a baby girl. But when you think about it, you know, we can find excuses at all times on things that parents didn't do. But you have to bring it up, because if you bring it awareness, then they can correct and start to say something. I agree with that. If you get the opportunity to bring it up. But also, you gotta, like my dad, he wasn't affectionate. I told you, he never hugged me until I graduated high school. But at the end of the day, he taught me how to work. He taught me how to be a man. You know what I'm saying? He taught me how to instill that work ethic in me. So if I look at it and scale it, certain things I didn't get, but certain things I got too much of, because of the way he was raised. I feel it. And I feel like, yeah. You see it. You see it in both of your parents and what they went through. So I blame them for something. When you get older, you learn to forgive, right? That's crazy. It's like when you get older, you know, it is in a certain age when you got that type of knowledge. It's like, you start to re-parent your parents. Yeah. Right, exactly. You know, like, my parents come to me. It's so true. It's so true. They come to me all the time. They're like, so like, I'm helping them figure out things with themselves. They said, once a man, twice a child. Yeah. So that's the only one of these. And like helping them unpack some things that like I've already addressed myself. How do they make you feel? I'm just like, wow, like they, they really look like in a sense, look up to me in a sense. Like when I'm like, you understand this, you understand that, I don't get it. Like, help me understand. Beautiful. Like you need, you got some shadow work to do. You need to work on some things from the past. And she's like, how do I do that? Wow. Like you got to open your heart to refill those feelings. Wow. But for me, it was God. That's the only way I, I mean, you have to read and research for me. For me, I don't push what I do on everybody else. But for me, I have to open up the word. I have to, you know, put things in me that pretty much builds integrity and it's morals. I can't just go by all, I'ma do it. You know, no, I gotta read. I gotta figure this thing out. I gotta pray. I gotta have a relationship with God. I gotta pray with my wife. I gotta pray with my kids. That's the way I, that's the way I get it. And go back to what you said. You don't blame them for anything that they do. You still forgive, but it's just that in order for you to correct certain things, that we all supposed to strive to improve our life. In order for us to know that we do anything incorrect. The way how we say things, cause everybody have communication problems. Nobody has perfect communication. So in order for that to be fixed, somebody has to bring something to your awareness and say, this is how you say things. I perceived it like this, that, whatever.  Maybe next time I'll try to say it in a different way. But I'll say this though, even when you do that, it's like planting a seed. You don't know when that's going to grow. You don't know when it's going to grow. It's up to God when it happens. So you just can, even if it's your parents, even if it's your friend, it's still the same rules apply. You're just planting a seed. You're telling somebody something that can help them. But don't you go getting mad or discouraged when they don't change when you want them to. Because it's up to God when that change happens. But the problem is a lot of people take on other people's issues as their assignment. There you go. And they feel like that's their assignment, to help someone heal, you know what I'm saying? But like you say, you're supposed to plant the seed and keep moving. Yeah, yeah, and dust your feet if you have to. All that apply. All that energy you hold on to. That's right. Yeah, it affects you. And that's dope because now when you do that, everything that God shows me, it's like he's showing you a way not only to help and affect others, but to help yourself as well while you're doing it. So all that stuff is going to last the same time. At the same time. But people don't understand that though, because I learned how to be vocal now when I say certain things. So a lot of times when I'm telling somebody advice or something or I'm telling them my personal experiences, what I've been through, and I'm looking for that to help them. And I said, the reason why I say all of this, I'm not just saying it for you. I'm saying it for me, because the more I say certain things, it reiterated in my mind and keeps me on the straight and narrow.  Spread the word, tell everybody, because you don't know who you're helping. You never know. And it's not your job to know that you're helping the person. Plant the seed like what you say and don't worry about it. Just leave it to God and know that it will work itself out. For sure. And then a lot of times, I was just thinking about David for some reason when he was talking. A lot of times God let your lifestyle be an example to others. And you may not tell nobody your testimony. I don't remember him doing them but crying out to God a lot. And he was a man after God's own heart according to what I read. So, but his lifestyle and the things he done is what made him so courageous. You see what I'm saying? Living in your authenticity. There you go. So, when did you figure out you wanted to be in the radio industry? All right, here we go. You just gonna step over college. Wait a minute, I don't wanna go there. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I wanna know about Paris, here, here, here. How did you get into Paris? Wait a minute, wait a minute, you gonna take my everything. You know, you on a trip, but lately, I said, when I first started dealing with you, you wouldn't even talk hardly. Now, you just take the whole thing. I'm about to ask you, let me in that one too and throw it over there.  If you want me to just check it out, I'll sit back and check it, man. Go ahead. Okay, so when did you... So, how did you end up going? What year? Who went all that? Because this was a whole movement down there. Man, Prairie View was a whole movement. Yes, it was a whole movement. Yeah, you did. I got there in 2006. Yeah, yeah. So that's when things was like kind of like, what's going on out here? Midday parties are at a wisdom. Wisdom. Wisdom. Cut class, classic. We cut in class and we in the yard party. So did you get a scholarship? So I did. I actually got a scholarship due to my academics being number five in my class. Yeah, I never like really talked about it, but I had the scholarship going there. They offer me a partial track scholarship because I was originally gonna go to OU. And at last minute, I was just like... So glad you didn't. I was just like, it just didn't resonate for me. And I chose Prairie View without ever seeing the school. So what was it about Prairie View that why you chose that? Well, I went to Dunbar. So, you know, all my friends from band were going to Prairie View and then you always hear about it. You always see it. We went to the games at the fair. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, that's where I'm going. I remember pulling up and I'm like, this is where I'm going. Man, whole love, right? You like, man.  Country road and so on. That's all right. You kicked it. And my dad was like, all right, this is where you go. Oh, he went with you down there. Yeah, my dad. Me and my dad went together for orientation. I'd never seen the school until orientation. Oh, really? Yeah, sorry. I went to orientation. What was your first like, you know, what was your first thoughts the first month that you was there? What did you feel? I can go all the way back to the first day. Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. How were you? I remember we were moving in. I wasn't even sad. I was like, ooh, I am ready. You know. To be honest, we went to have some fun. So it was crazy that our moving day, there was a whole like, yard party, like right. We went on a Wednesday. While we were moving in, parents, it was, it was a Saturday. Everybody had moving in on a Saturday. They jumping on a Saturday. And there's a party. There was a party moving in. I woulda told my child to decide and say, you better not be a pet party. You better get that school again. My dad is cool. He's cool with it. He's like, you should have loved it. I did for the jump. Yeah, for real. You did the right thing. It was a whole barbecue, everything. Like a welcome, freshman welcome party in the yard. I was like, oh, this is what it's about to be. I knew it was setting the tone. Wow.  Like my parents didn't help me. They didn't want to sign off on fast food. They didn't want to do none of that. Although I had lived at the place, I was like, can y'all just sign off on this? They would not. And all they had to do is sign. They wouldn't do it. I don't want it on my credit. I don't want, right. But it was a scholarship. But you know, like when you get loans and stuff like that, they didn't want they in their name. So I was like, how'd you do it? I'm gonna figure it out. I applied for all these scholarships. I had so much free money coming in. Teachers helped you? I never, no, I did it myself. I just did research. I never really had to come out of pocket for anything. That's good. But you see, if they didn't sign, if they had signed, that wouldn't even happen. Right. Everything happens for a reason. So I had scholarships from all, just random scholarships from all different places. They paid for my school. I made it, it took out 10,000 the whole time I was there. And that's nothing. Okay, is this why you found your love for the music? He keeps trying. He keeps trying. Okay, yeah. So, PV was, I already love the music before. I always love music. My daddy is a big, like big time vinyl collector. He's always listened to music, like blasting.  And then I played instruments in middle school. Of course. I lived until high school. Okay. But then PV, it was just like a breeding ground for music. I met so many people that were like. But like who? Yeah, name them. Well, I don't believe you. I would be with Cash, D'Roll, and all of them. I would be going. The prime time click. The prime time click. I would be in the, what kind of car was it? Those guys was kind of rowdy. It was an expedition, something. We would be in the expedition. I remember one time we went to Texas A&M, D'Roll performed and everything. And I'm just there like, had no clue what I was actually like doing there. But I was like with the crew. Like, you know. Wow. So you really, you're one of the guys. Wait a minute. Do you got prime time clear? I'm good. T.J. had it on his backpack. Because that's what, yeah, T.J. had it on his backpack.   He shouted to me. I'm like, damn, you did it.  But I was like always cool with like, all the DJs, all the upcoming artists. I was just one of those. Can you dance? So were you like a dancer or something? No. No, she just cool. I felt like I was always like one of those people that could put the pieces together. You know what I'm saying? Connect people. That's what I felt like I always was. I was a promoter at a very young age. I had a fake ID when I was 15 years old. I used to be a promoter at Therapy Lounge in Deep Ellen back in the day. I think that was a thing back in the day. I think almost everybody had a fake ID. You could get them right down there about a police station down there by Lou Starrick.  You could get on that broody. All them places I was getting my ear on. I was every minute 16, but I was 27. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kicking it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could get you that fake ID. Yeah, I had a fake ID and I was promoting and selling tables and doing all that. So I was always one of those people that. You was one of the people that booned with somebody on here. You know what? No, boomsay. I'm done. He said that prime time click. He don't know how they was doing what they was doing. But he said, it seemed like there was everywhere he wanted to be. Yo. He was like, that must be me. You know, like before the sun came out. I even had friends that like play instruments. Like they were just creative beings like behind the scenes. I was like automatically drawn to these people. So it wasn't like nothing that was really forced. Like I had a friend that like literally would write music and play guitar and she could play keyboard. But she didn't do anything with it. But it was like I was always attracted to like the creatives. You know what I'm saying? So it kind of just molded like, I say my tribe. And it really gave me the confidence to do what I'm doing now today. Just being around them, seeing people do different things that taught me how to go after, like go get it. So what do you do actually? Let me ask you. I do a lot of things. So I started out as a model and actress. So I did that for many, many years. I was signed to Kim Dawson's agency at 18 months. And I started in entertainment at such a young age. So it was just in me. Like I couldn't get away from it. Cause that's the thing I was wondering. Cause when you were jumping from house to house, you didn't have a part-time job or doing anything like that. Yeah, I always worked. I always had a job. She know how to get to it. I always had a job. My first job was that. That's what make you dope because. At the Allington ballpark. Oh, that was your first job? I used to make the baseball bats. That's networking right there. Oh, I met so many people there. Like still to this day, I can walk in restaurants. I'm like, yo, and like they own that stuff now. Like the people that was working there, you know, it's crazy how everything came full circle, but I did that work the finish line, worked at YMCA. Story so dope. I just like the way. I braid the hair. 15 years old, get into it. Oh, I did all kinds of stuff. I love it. I think everybody in college, if you're black, everybody braided hair at some point. Oh, in college, I had three jobs then. I know. Like I had a full schedule, still had three jobs. I was right there. And part of that same time. Okay, I knew it all.  It was gonna get, it would just jump all the way out there. Yeah, yeah, I'm so glad I was there. We're just jumping all the way out there. I'm so glad I was there. Yeah, promotion and all that. I see what's going on now. I'm so glad I was there. You came over here. You didn't tell me everything. I know, but what I'm glad about is the fact that when y'all always talked about a primetime click, it was always all these males. You never used to hear about any females. Was she heard then? Yeah, I was like, it was so funny I ran for, what was it, Homecoming Queen or something like that at Prairie View. I actually recorded, I decided to do like a little mixtape, right? So I was like, y'all, I'm gonna get in the booth. I'm about to rap a little bit. Who wrote that rap? Some, I think it was Mike. I think it was Mike and then our friend, Jorge George. George, yeah, we all linked up and we were recording in that closet. And I made a song called, Vote for Tejas, September 18th. Hey. And the whole can't be saying this, every time they see me. And yeah, so I was always, you know, with the crew just kicking it. I was always kind of like in the shadows. I never really was like that person like at the forefront. I just kind of kicked it in the shield. I was cool with everybody. How many of the females were around? I don't think there was anybody, probably randoms. Okay, yeah. I'm gonna say, it'll probably be like random people. But like when it came to like having like real friends, like those are the homies. Wow. You know what I'm saying? I love it, man. So I was cool with a lot of people though.  Yeah, I'm a part of K-104. So how long have you been there? I've been there for three years now. Three years now. Yeah, so two years into me actually teaching myself how to DJ. I got assigned to radio. Really? I got discovered. You taught yourself how to DJ. Yeah, I taught myself. So where did you play during that time? No, I was somebody that played part in that. Nobody. Nobody taught me how to DJ. So what were you serious? What was the biggest gig you got during that time? Stop, stop, stop. I had a friend's house. She was like a DJ a couple years back. And I had to go to her house to use her equipment just to teach myself in between my jobs. Okay. And she would just tell me like, oh, that sounds good. Or this and that, but nobody physically taught me how to DJ. No. Really? I like that. So you self taught? Self taught. What was the biggest gig you got during that time when you was DJing? What? Like at the beginning? At the beginning phases. Oh, I DJ with Manny Fresh. What? For, yeah. And that was before the radio? For Fat Tuesday. No, it was, I got- I'm talking within that two years, you said you did before you got assigned to radio. Oh, before I got assigned to radio. Okay. That was my first big gig though. Like with radio, it was with Manny Fresh. Manny Fresh. We did Fat Tuesdays at House of Blues. I'm gonna ask him one day. Yeah, it was dope. I promise I'm gonna ask. I got pictures, videos. I ain't tripping. I'm gonna ask. Okay. I'm gonna find it in here. Okay. Yeah, KLC was on here already. I'm close. I'm close. I'm done. KLC was already on here. Beats by the pound.  Yeah, I rock with these folks. I'm gonna find it in here. It's coming.  It's coming. I'm gonna ask that nigga what you- Yeah. You funny. So I know it's real. Like I need to know from him. I wanna get it from the horse's mouth. At House of Blues. Fat Tuesday. Okay, I'm not gonna forget. You don't have to worry about that. All right now. So I'm trying to figure out how did you get assigned to that? How the big gig? I wouldn't necessarily say that I had like big gigs, but I'm also very hard on myself. So asking me that is just like, was it really that big? You know? I did different events with like Victoria's Secret, you know, stuff like that. Makeup Forever. I did gigs at North Park and stuff like that. But I actually had got really, I wouldn't say I got cool because I was always cool with a lot everybody in Dallas. Although I'm not from Dallas, I was cool with everybody, you know? And from being a promoter once, I just reached out to the promoter homies and I was like, yo, I'm DJing and everybody's like, girl, get out of here, like, attention, no, you not. Wouldn't even pay attention to me. But it was one group co-op. They actually, I sent them over like a little mix that I did and they listened to it while they was just chilling. They was like, it's you? Like, you did this? And I was like, yeah, I told y'all I've been DJing. And they was like, shoot, when you ready to DJ then? I'm like, I don't know. I ain't ready yet. But I really was. I was just, I was so nervous. So I waited a whole year while I was teaching myself and they actually gave me my first opportunity to take on a residency. So from there, I just, I just grew from there. I was all over the place. I was in all of the nightclubs, all of the bars, like all of the major parties and stuff like that, but they gave me my opportunity. And that's how the radio saw you. That's how the radio saw me. That's what I was trying to figure out. Like, how did, how did that opportunity open up?  It's called XOXO now. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's where I was discovered. Wow, that's dope man. On a random. And who discovered you? DJ Steve Nice. That's what's up. So on a random, I think it was like a Wednesday or something like that. Nobody was in there. So you was working? Oh, I was working. That's what matters. And he was just like, How did you feel when he came to you with that opportunity? Me? Like, am I ready for this? No, no, no, no, no.  Yeah, I know you did. I'm new. You should have just been like, I'm from the prime time clique. You know that. The n***a don't know what he just done. I am done. I'm gonna take this thing over here. I'm done. I'm the first lady of the prime time clique. No, I'm not the first lady. The first lady, yeah. I am. Now we can get it started over there. Done. I'm done with y'all. I'm the first lady. So you, Bill Bellamy's cousin? Yeah, that's my cousin.  I actually do talk to him. Like, whenever he comes in the house. Let that n***a know. He lets me know. N***a. Boss talk is a thing, you know what I'm talking about? Just let him know. Boss talk is a thing. That will be kind of dope, you know what I'm saying? No, I'm working with a lot of people. You better get in before I blow up. Okay, tell him, get in while it's hot, okay? So what you think about a platform? I love it. I like that it's real, it's genuine. It's authentic. It's just having conversation. It doesn't feel forced. It doesn't feel like, you know what I mean? I've been on plenty of podcasts, but it feels like it's so, to the point.  I'm a talker, so I can talk. I don't want to be put in the box where it's like this question. But you miss so much good, because one thing I've realized by doing it the way how we do it, we hear some stories that have never been told. I know you'd be like, what? And then the funny thing is that some people will call us back afterwards and say, I don't know how y'all got that out of me. Oh, don't put that part in there. But don't put that part in there. For real? For real? Yeah, don't put that part in there. I'm real with you and I'm true to it, like for real. Like I am who I am. Yeah, I've heard, I've had some people, but cause they was like, this is about to happen big for me and I don't want to put that out yet. Don't put it out yet. I understand that. Because sometimes you can pull, you can pull something out of somebody. And they don't know in that moment. When we do it, it's not like we know what we're pulling out, it just comes out. And I think that God gives us the spirit of I want to make people feel comfortable, welcome to feel like they're a part of the family. Well, you really is welcome. And if you're not, we have had somebody that was kind of, you know, tightened up. And I didn't put the video out, but they was depressed and I knew it and I didn't want to pull it out. But at some point I'm gonna drop it. You should. Because that's somebody in real time. And I think it would do him, he probably was wanting to know that. I don't know. But it just seemed like he was going through a lot. Remember that? You know exactly what I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about, but you never know by putting it out too, it might make certain people reach out to him to, you know. Yeah. Help. Shout out to Young Jock. You know what? I'm done. He's going there. No, I'm tripping. I'm done. No, Young Jock. Yeah, yeah. It was some things that went on. But it's not him. He was involved in though. He was involved in. Shout out to Young Jock. Highlight me. I'm at Boss Talk 101. We'll be back down in three months. So we just went to Atlanta. We just started traveling. I lived there for a while. Really? Yeah, we kicked it down. And her brother lives there. How do you like it? I do like it. I actually miss it a lot. What? You ain't Dallas. You need to calm down. No, I do. I miss it a lot because it taught me so much about entrepreneurship. How long did you live there for? I stayed there for two and a half years. What made you come back? What made you go there in the first place? What made me go there was chasing a dream. I wanted to take a leap of faith. And I felt like, yo, I've been here for so long.  So I left and I had a vision. How old were you? This is after college. Yeah, this is after college. I was 25 when I went to Atlanta. This was before the DJ. This was before DJing. That's why God had something he wanted to do with you. This was way before DJing was even a thought. I had went out there. I'm going to just move. Like I'm going to just take a leap of faith. I knew I wanted to get into acting. I knew that I wanted to be on the game. Like I knew everything that I wanted to do. I wrote it down. A month after living there, I got signed with BET. And I was on the game. I worked on there all the way until they closed it out. I worked with Brandy. Did Bill help you get that job? No. My cousin won't help me get no jobs. What? He was like, I want to see you do it for yourself. He's taught me that. Wow, I like it. And I was like, on some respect, like I'm cool with it. You should be proud of me. He's like, build yourself up. That's why a lot of people don't even know my last name. I don't use my last name on purpose. Your last name, Bellamy? My last name is Bellamy. Oh, damn. So this is your daddy's brother? Well, he is a third cousin with our family that's like on the East Coast. They've talked about it before. I don't know the exact, you know. Yeah, but you know, that's okay. We'll get him when we get him right now. We wrote. Yeah, my last name is Bellamy. You have done a great job with your career.  And yeah, you from the prime time clip before that. Yeah, that's what we want people to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the part I want everybody to get. Yeah, Bellamy's stand up. She's from the prime time clip. Oh my God. But how did it feel, how did it feel when you got that position with BT? I was just like, whoa, like, that's a big deal. Yeah, I dreamed of it. Did you know what's the woman name? Who? The one that I always talk about in reality TV. What's her name? The one that, what's her name? Mona Scott? Mona Scott. Yeah. You knew her? I never met Mona Scott. Okay, I forgot. I just met the one that I know her name a lot. You probably know Salima Kill, Mara Brocka Kill. They did Girlfriends and all of that. I know them like first thing. That's what's up. So I worked with them. They were the producers of the game. But you look like you could do that stuff. Thank you. I loved it. Yeah, I could tell, yeah, yeah. There were so much opportunities like that there. So why move back here and not just jump to another show? Yeah, so it was crazy. I went through a pretty bad breakup that nigga hurt you. And a lot of life changes. And so I was like, you know what? Let me go back. How long were y'all together for? Two years. So I was there for a two and a half years. So, yeah, two years. He missed out on something special. And you just wanted to just get away with it. I never missed out on something. Nigga, that nigga kind of Dallas D, know it. You know he knows it. Oh God. I messed up. You know, oh God. But yeah, so I was like, you know I'ma come back home. I came back home and I was actually homeless. A lot of people didn't know that. What? I was homeless. What did you say? I'm trying to click this back up. No, baby, hold on. But hold on. Wait a minute. You the type of person that you have people you could stay with. You have people that you can... Okay, I feel it. But you just, I don't want to deal with nobody. I don't want to, I can feel that from you. Yeah, I am like that. Like let me just get it because I don't want to owe nobody. Well, let me ask you this. Homeless woman. Where did you... What? I ain't homeless no more. Where did you stay when you was homeless? I actually stayed in my car for a while. That's dope. I used to for a while. Two days. Couple weeks. Two weeks. It was a good like three, four weeks. All the greats staying in the car. You in a good place. Look, I used to find like safe places I could park. You know, the sleazy good night could... All the greats. All the greats, all the greats. I was out in safe places. I was parking in apartment parking lot. Yeah, you didn't watch Mr. Deeds. I remember. Like, you remember that? I remember. Yeah, it gets real. But you had somebody come and knock him, but like, hey. Yeah, they do it. I hope there's a will here there. I slept in my car for a while. I stayed with friends. I was couchsurfing, you know. I was staying in hotels and everything. Did you get a... What was the job that you got? So what's crazy was when I got back, I was like, yo, because I did like a lot of assistant styling when I was in Atlanta. So I was like, when I come here, I'ma just style. So I did a Southern Dallas magazine. Wow. And that was my first gig when I got back. So I was like, I'm a stylist. You know what I'm saying? Wow. I just came out and asked that. So I started doing that and I was styling people. A lot of people didn't know about that. And then I just started getting random jobs. I was a manager at UPS. I was a manager at a hair store. Which one? The one I'm saying to you? The one in Fort Worth. Oh, yeah. Because I was going back to Fort Worth. So you were standing... Went back to Fort Worth. No, I was actually staying in Arlington at the time. Okay. So I had a job in Fort Worth and I had two jobs in Dallas. That's what's up. So I would go back and forth, back and forth. UPS would be at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? So I had the two jobs in Dallas. You don't have no kids. No, no kids. Yeah, but what kind of car was that you was sleeping in? Oh, what car did I... Oh, I had a white Honda. Yeah, yeah. I sure did. I sure did. You could let the seat all the way back. All the way. So I'm telling my name. Look, no automatic seat. You better let it down yourself. So where did you go and take a shower? At the gas station. Hotels, friend's house. Like friend's house and stuff like that. Like a lot of times, like I say, I was couchsurfing. I was going to different people's house. No, but I'm talking when you were living in your car for those two weeks. Oh, yeah. Where did you go? The gym. The gym. Gas station. Yeah, I had a gym membership. I would go to the gym. Okay. It's hard when you're homeless. I know you can't understand. Well, because when I think about somebody homeless, I'm thinking about you can't even afford a gym membership. No, no, no. She got a car. Yeah, you know, like... There's levels of homeliness. There is a level to this, you know? You see people in LA, they be living in tents and go to town for 24 people. You put a double apartment, got a two bedroom tent. Right. Yeah, it go down. You know they can only afford... You know they can only afford... What they got. Yeah. You know, when it comes to housing, they ain't got it. Can't get up to that. I mean, I wasn't homeless for very long. It was about two months. Two months. Yeah, but then I got right back to it. Yeah. Because I left all abrupt. You know, I just left. Yeah, we ain't talking about me, but I went through a spell too. Yeah. But I was robbing. Yeah. You was robbing. Yeah, I was robbing. You know what I'm saying? But I wasn't fit to be... I was homeless, but I couldn't tell because I was too busy bringing in houses and stuff. And just... Right. I'm done. I was in everybody else's house.  We gonna be alright. No, you do go through things when you're young. And that's the part about growing up, right? That's so dope, right? Because you can look back on things that you went through. Somebody else that's homeless that moving from house to house may see this video. And they be like, are this podcasting or here at on Apple podcasting? And next thing you know, they find a way out of this situation because of you. Yeah. I see that. I'm being real. That's what it's all about. I'm not ashamed of where I came from. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't wanna share their story because they haven't really dealt with themselves. They haven't really faced themselves. They haven't looked at themselves in the mirror.  And a lot of people run from themselves. That's true. And I always say your story is a testimony for somebody else to help somebody else. It's not for yourself. Yeah, for real. It's for somebody else. But I love the fact that you've been, because when I think about BET working over there and all, are you up here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of people who come all the way down be like, Yeah. Trying to hide, they don't want nobody to know that this is where they ended up. Yeah, I didn't hide nothing. But your story is dope. You could be a co-host that bossed out one-on-one. Okay, just in my little bag, you know, I'll be here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, every time. I'll be here. Because that backstory is what makes the thing work. And that's what people don't realize. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah. If I start telling you mine, you might not come back. Sure. Yeah, I'm one of them type dudes. I'm doing.  Ooh, Kanye West. Ah, I wish I could meet that nigga right here. Stop, man. Yeah, I met Kanye West in Atlanta. Oh, how did it go? Tell me about it. It was dope. Look at how people say it. Like, we ended up chopping it up in the back because we were back there for some reason, but I'm really cool with a lot of people from Rock Nation and stuff like that to work with Rock Nation. So when I start talking about Jay-Z, you fail sometimes. No, no. Yeah, but you really do know the body because we're in the South. No, no, no. So we were back there in the back and Kanye, he was just chilling and doing something. I can't remember, but I was like, I went up to him and I was like, yo, can I just take it?  Everybody's like, how was he so... Cool with you. Cool with you. And he smiled in the picture and everything. I was like, he don't be smiling. No, God gave you face to the vibe. Yeah, it was one of them things. It was just like, it was a moment that was just so cool. And we all went back there and drank Duce. Kicked it. Did all the things. So that was like... Kicked it. Highlight moments. Yeah, highlight moments. But of course, working with Brandy was like so good. You worked with Brandy? On the game, yeah. Yeah, you met... You met Rayjay, did you? I didn't meet Rayjay. Look, Rayjay never met me. I love Rayjay. I love Rayjay. Brandy, I just gave the right person. I love Rayjay. But no, Brandy was an amazing person. She seemed real cool. She was an amazing person to work with. She used to always pull me inside. And she'd be like, you don't belong behind the camera. Really? All the time, she'd be like, you belong in front of the camera. She's like, I don't know what you gonna do? She's like, but you don't belong behind.  She's always telling me that, yeah. She's like, you don't belong behind the scene.  So she easy to work with? Very easy to work with. So cool. That's why she always getting gigs. No, seriously. That's why she stays booked. Exactly. Her personality. Yeah, amazing. So like for real. So, yeah, they're gonna do that. But that's something that sticks to me too. Her telling me that. But that's why it's very pivotal for us to touch other people's life. Even if it's just a sentence you say to somebody, something positive, it stays with them forever. You just don't know. Cause she doesn't know until she listened to BallStock 101 to know. Look, Brandy, we gonna sing this up to you. Everybody listen, see what I mean? I'll let my boy come in, but Ray J, you know, we just, we gonna fan out right quick. I'm good. So top three artists of all time. No, I wanna act for them. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Top three artists of all time. Annie Johnnera. Annie Johnnera. Annie Johnnera. Top three artists, not everybody's been on the show and done it, so let's go. Male or female? Anybody. He can put Bob Marley in there, that's cool. What? You know what? You better not put it. I love me some bottles. I do love me some bottles. Okay, so top artists, let's go. Damn. That's so hard. Number one. I'm gonna go with Prince. 27th Instrument, playing Prince, let's go. Turn up. Number two. Prince. I said I coulda picked that.  I love Prince. You look like one.  I used to lie to everybody like Prince my daddy, y'all. You know what you and that new camera's from Prince. You lost Prince all of my friends.  Prince ain't your daddy. Okay, number two. Number two, I definitely gotta go Kanye West. I'ma definitely. That's dope. I'ma Kanye West fan. Me too. Me too. Me too. Especially after meeting him, right? No, I'm Kanye West fan. Well, even before that, like. All layers. All layers of Kanye is I'm down with. Yo, in high school, like when I used to say, you know, at these different people's house, I played that college dropout record so much, they'd be like shut up, like take a turn at all. I'll be listening to Spaceships over and over and over and like take a turn, I'm tired of listening to it, so definitely Kanye West for sure. Kanye West number two. Oh, number three. You know, everybody normally goes with Beyonce, but I have a very favorite artist of all time, Amy Winehouse. Amy Winehouse. I like her. She like her. I love her. Have you ever heard of her best friend named Julia Ashby? So she actually has like a reggae sound. You need to look her up. Her name is Julia Ashby. And she actually recorded in a lot of the studios that Bob Marley recorded. How much music you got in that head of yours? Ooh, it's too much. It's a lot. It's a lot. I listen to all types of things. I know, I could believe that. My favorite. Me too. Which one you like, girl? Oh. Did you listen to him when he was with that first group? What first group? Switch, wasn't it? Wasn't it Switch? No, my daddy has those records. Yeah, yeah. I need to go ahead and steal some of those. I call your name, girl.  I know that, I know that. That's how I play it, man. Yeah, Switch. I didn't know that. She don't know. I thought you were on this man.  No, no, no. Keep it up. Keep it up. I know songs. I don't always know who's singing it, but I know songs. I'm the same way. See, I play Switch a lot, but she don't even like the song, because I play it so much. For real? But let me tell you about him. That was my song, man. But let me tell you about him. Like, okay, if you play a song, it takes me a minute to figure out what the song is. You can play the song for two seconds. He already know what it means. Yeah, I know. He play one beat. I mean, just a beat. You don't hear the words. I got it here. I'm like, hold on. Let the song start, and then I can tell you what it is. Okay, so this is doing it the other night. Look, this is DJ Ear. Just knowing. I just love music. Like, it's been that way for me. Like, I ride before rap started, when it ended. It ain't ended yet, but it's a lot of garbage out here that these niggas doing, but it's some good stuff too. I do agree. You know what I'm saying? But, I said, when it ended, hip hop is not dead. Let's stop playing. Hip hop is not dead. It ain't going nowhere. It ain't going nowhere. Because it's not trying to be funny with these white folks trying to steal it from us. Not only are they trying to steal it. They are stealing it. They're not going to be able to do that. You can't emulate us. I could say something, but I'm going to let Eminem make it tonight. I love that. I'm not trying to tell you that, because these niggas would say that. I'm trying to say Amy Winehouse. They're giving them a torch. Like, Eminem is the best rapper ever.  Okay, yeah. I can't agree with that. They be doing that, though. A lot of people do that, and it's a lot of people. The people, you'd be amazed at the music and the people that they've met, and they still say that. And I'm like, how could they say that? That's just so difficult to narrow down to the bestest and the bestest, because everybody's so special in their own uniqueness. But it's your personality. Your preference. Everybody has a different air. Eminem can rap. I ain't taking that away from him, but he's just, when I think of people like, even Lil Wayne or any of them. Now, Wayne is one of my favorites. Yeah, you can't compare it to him. But he wasn't in the top three. He wasn't in my top three. Or, of course, PymC is my favorite ever. Yeah. He loves UGK. Really? I don't even play about that. That's like almost his number one. I don't even play about that. Don't play with me about that. Let's just move on. Okay, I love it. This is not nothing to play with. You do not want to go down that low. I like UGK, too. I gotta have it. Okay, so my next question to you is, being in the industry that you're in, as I said, you meet a lot of people. In the radio industry as well, you hear a lot of stories. What is a person you've met that was like so heart touching when you heard their story? Oh, heart touching when I heard their story. Maybe you haven't gotten it yet. Yeah, maybe I haven't gotten it yet. I got another question.  You do meet, yeah, you do. I mean a lot of people when I'm trying to think. And she's such an open book, so she would have knew it right off. I definitely would. Yeah, but. I think a lot of times, I'm more so the person with the story that. Your story's dope. That's why I'm glad. I didn't know all this. You know what I'm saying? Like putting it out there for people and people always come back to me and they're just like, yo, like. I didn't know. Yeah, or they're like, oh, I thought that she was from North Dallas and everything was handed to you. You really got all this that you came from. And it's so funny because people look at looks. Yeah. And right in that. Yeah, y'all looking good up in there. And that's crazy. You know what I'm saying? Don't even know what you've been. I'm loving this vibe. I'm not even sure what you've done. Y'all doing y'all thing right now. I'm just telling you. Looks have nothing to do with what you don't have or anything like that. But some people feel like if you have looks, you should have an upper hand. Just like some people think that people are saying if you're white, you have that privilege over somebody who is black. That's true. The same thing as if you're pretty. Oh, you should never have to do it out.  It's crazy. I couldn't see you little cute stuff just running around homeless. Man, look, I didn't act like it. You ain't about to see me homeless. You ain't about to know nothing. I'm about to keep it together. Oh, I love it, man. So how hard is it for a woman, a beautiful woman like yourself to be in these industries and deal with these people and the difficulties of how. And to keep it professional. Sometimes opportunities are missed, maybe, behind certain situations. I mean, I'm going in right now. Yeah, you are about to say, well, I can answer this so many ways. I can answer this from like my earlier years and I can answer it now. Go ahead. Go ahead and answer it both ways. Okay, so earlier years, yes. It was tough. It was tough. Because I was just like, I still wanted to be my feminine self and not be so hard.  But give me my money. You know what I'm saying? Like learning how to work with so many different types of people and personalities and all these things. It took a lot of patience. So I had to say, even with DJing, DJing has taught me so much patience, like just how to deal with people. But one thing that helped me, like in my younger years, was going back to like thinking in my corporate mind. You know what I'm saying? Like the problem solving part. You know, like going back to that is what helped me get through a lot of those moments. And it was really, really hard because it's like people trying to flirt with you or come at you or, hey, can you do the, like they want favors from you because they feel like you need them in order to work and stuff like that. So I can say, yes, it was much difficult starting out because it's like, you almost have to prove yourself. You have to come with something. They gotta, you gotta, they gotta see that you really are about what you're talking about or what people are praising you to be. So now that I'm in this space years later, I've gained that respect just by always showing up as a hundred percent myself and one, two people know I really do not play. Like don't play with my money. One, I'm one of those people that when I show up, I always do a little extra. I always do a little bit more.   And it was just learning how to put my foot down without having to be aggressive. You know what I mean? Like just, and it just, it comes with, how can I put this? After you show people who you are, your clientele is based off of like what you put out, like the energy that you put out. So I don't really have to put up with too much craziness or anything like that. Now, do people try to talk to me? I mean, I feel like that's gonna be something that happens all the time, you know? I wish more women was like that. Cause they, they don't, that's the part where they still trying to figure it out. A lot of women back down, a lot of women back down, like they feel like they don't really know their worth. You know what I'm saying? Like they don't know it. So they back down or feel like they have to take less money and stuff like that. I've never been that person. I've never been the DJ to undercut a DJ. Or do anything like that. Like I came in, I knew my worth. And I was like, yo, this is this. But I also have a tribe of people around me that keep me in check. Like know your worth, Teja. No, you need to be charging this. You need to be doing that. So when you have the right people around you, it's not hard to maneuver and navigate through the entertainment business. You know what I'm saying? I built those relationships over the past probably like 12 years. So if you could go back to that 15-year-old girl who had to move out and had to go on her own and had to go through everything that you had to go through, what would you say to her? To help her to prepare for what she's about to face. Yeah, so many things.  Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. I remember so many times I would just be afraid to even speak out, speak up, or show up as my true self. I knew I was different. I knew I wasn't like everybody else. But a lot of times my exterior, I had to put on a whole different, you know. Trying to fit in, trying to make people accept. In a sense, like make people accept who I was. I've always been different. But as a young girl, a lot of people don't really know who they are. That's true. They're searching for themselves because even like you said, you didn't know what you wanted to be and all of that. It's when you got older and really left college that you really just, everything started coming to you like that. What's crazy is though, it's like even with what I'm doing now, I feel like I still always had the idea of what industry I would be in. I just didn't know what I was going to do. You know, like I always said, well, I'm a design close. I'm gonna have a music group. Well, I'm gonna do this.  I'm gonna do, I always knew I wanted to be in entertainment. I just didn't know what it was I was supposed to do. I remember in college, I used to always wanna be in like the pageants and stuff like that. But I never had a talent. I'm like, what would I do? Like what would I show up and do? I'm not about to do a poem. I'm not about to get up here and dance or you know, nothing like that. I was like, what is Tasia? And I remember asking myself that then cause I could get up there and answer all the questions all day and probably blow you out the water. But I had no, I didn't have a talent that I could showcase. So that was something I was always in search of. Wow. So what time do you go on when you're DJing on the radio? So I'm on there on weekends for the weekend block party on K-104. Friday I'm on 12 to two. Saturday I'm on, hold on. Fridays I'm on 10 to 12. Saturdays I'm on 12 to two. And then Sundays I'm on 6 p.m. And then 12 to two again. How can people get a hold of you? You can contact me on IG. That's Tasia Alexa. A lot of people say it wrong. Tasia Alexa. It's Tasia Alexa. Tasia Alexa. It's T-A-Z-I-A-A-L-E-X-A.   Hey, Tasia, we love you. We thank you for coming on Boss Talk 101, man. Yeah, it's so much fun. It's going down, man. Anytime. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.


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Rgyn i pawr yn ddisblwyd, os ydych chi'n meddwl i gael gwahanol, mewn bydd amgylcheddau yr honiad y ddimentoise ynglyniaeth ynglynig, i tynnu brakewm gwahanol i gael eu meddwl yn Hygwyrddol, ac, yn fwy o'r gwneud, i dwydoch yn eu bod yn cymhwy attracting o dod o gondod gwynghwyng. Fy oherwydd, mae'n gweithio arsigio'r gwahanol i gael Ysgrifiannol Llywodraeth, gerbynnag i gael eu ffwrdd dros y 150 o lu gymhwyntol y sgiliau ein chwynhau, ac yn fwyllgor, mae'n digwydd ddwydo i ddwydo i'r gwahanol i gyfoeiddiad o'r ffordd yr Ysgrifiannol. The bill has also been amended to include detailed consultation requirements for a number of clauses relating to carbon that capture utilisation and storage and hydrogen. The UK Government has committed to the setting up of a ministerial working group on CCUS that will enable us to drive forward work that is vital to delivering our net zero ambitions. The UK Government has rejected amendments that would have improved the bill in relation to issues such as CCUS and hydrogen. Whilst those changes are welcome, I must emphasise that the changes to the bill do not go nearly far enough. It is the clearly established position of the Scottish Government and the Scottish Parliament that, where provisions in the bill touched on devolved competence, legislation should include a requirement for the consent of Scottish ministers. The UK Government has refused to include those consent mechanisms for all but a very small number of clauses. That is not how devolution is supposed to work. The UK Government should respect the views of this Parliament and promote amendments to reflect that. To make matters worse, the UK Government has made clear that unless we agreed to recommend legislative consent that is given to the bill as a whole, including those areas in which we believe they are riding roughshod over devolution, they would revert to the bill as originally envisaged. The Scottish Government has made clear that such a negotiation tactic is unacceptable. It is tantamount to blackmail and is incompatible with good faith negotiation on important topics. The Sule convention is supposed to require that the UK Government amend legislation to reflect the legitimate expectation that the UK Government will not legislate in devolved areas without the consent of the Scottish Parliament. The UK Government has now chosen to turn the convention on its head with its take it or leave it approach. Instead of the need for legislative consent protecting the interests of this Parliament, the threat of proceeding without consent has become a weapon for the UK Government. That is yet another way in which the UK Government is failing to respect the Sule convention, which is now breached on 11 secret occasions. The Scottish Government remains committed to the Sule convention and continues to work within both its letter and spirit despite the current UK Government's repeated disregard for its requirements. We have written to the UK Government detailing our objections to that approach. Securing amendments to the Sule convention is vital to the delivery of our net zero ambitions at this crucial juncture, and our decision to recommend consent is made on this basis. Although I am recommending that consent is given, I do so reluctantly, and it must be made clear. We are being asked to accept a demuniation of this Parliament's power under the threat of having those powers further weakened if we do not, jeopardising investment in our renewable sector and undermining our efforts to meet net zero. That is not a partnership of equals, those are the actions of a bully, treating the Scottish Parliament and by extension the Scottish people with nothing but contempt. Our recommendation of consent on this occasion should in no way be taken as an acceptance of the UK Government's approach to negotiations on this bill. The Scottish Government is determined to deliver a just energy transition, which enables the people of Scotland to realise the benefit of our rich renewables endowment and achieve a net zero future. I move the motion in my name. I now call on Douglas Lameston up to six minutes, please. Thank you, Presiding Officer. We are happy to support this legislative consent motion, if not the tone of which the minister has presented it to the chamber this afternoon. It is actually heartening, Presiding Officer, to see a good level of co-operation between the Scottish Government and the Westminster Government that is so much needed, but seldom found. This is an issue that the whole of the UK should be working together on as it affects us all. Ensuring our energy supply and sustainability is key to us achieving our net zero targets and exploding and legislating for new technologies is vital to our energy security. We also like to thank the net zero committee and the Delegated Power and Law Reform Committee for the time that they have taken to consider this matter. They are careful scrutiny of this lengthy and complicated bill. I was happy that this work was done by the net zero committee before I joined, because I can see how much work was involved. With more than 300 clauses, there was a lot to get through. Clearly, there are many areas that require a UK-wide response that also includes powers delegated to the Scottish Government. I welcome the consultation and detailed conversations that have happened between civil servants and ministers across both Governments. I must say, Presiding Officer, how refreshing to see both our Governments working together on this. Many of the concerns that were raised by the net zero committee and the report of the 17 March have now been addressed, which is reflected in the report published on 26 September. I am also grateful to my fellow committee members and clerks for bringing me up to speed so quickly on what is a complicated and detailed bill. Throughout the clauses before us today, there is reference to the ministerial forum that will address many of the issues of contention within the bill. I would ask the minister for clarity on the frequency of the meeting for this forum, if she has it, the process for agreeing the agenda and how the minister proposes to update this chamber on those discussions moving forward. It may also be helpful to the minister if the relevant party spokespeople could also meet with her before and after these meetings to discuss progress. It is important for this process to be as transparent as possible, given the implications for business and communities throughout Scotland and in the north-east in particular. It would also be helpful if the minister could share the details of the memorandum of understanding that is to be established between the Scottish and UK Governments and how they will work together on the policy relating to the economic regulation of CO2 transport and storage. That is going to be a new market and any information would be appreciated. Those are points that are picked up in the recommendation from the Delegate Powers and Law Reform Committee and their recommendations. The Scottish Parliament must be given the means by which to scrutinise and hold ministers to account for their position in any agreement with the United UK Government. Perhaps the minister would like to update us now on her closing remarks. A key area of this bill is around the relatively new industry of carbon capture, which is really exciting for our own ACORM project. I say new, but I think that certain parts of the world have been doing it for a while now. Scotland is uniquely placed with its deep underground depleted oil and gas wells to store huge amounts of carbon, deep underground and hopefully this is an industry that can have a huge economic benefit for the whole of Scotland. Presiding Officer, it is vital that we all see the benefits of the move away from fossil fuels and towards renewable energy. Businesses and communities in the north-east are eager to do their part, a topic that I spoke about just last week. Those measures will assist with that, clear and consistent policy from both Governments on carbon capture, hydrogen, the reduction of emissions from industry and transport and the provision of low carbon power. I also welcome the bill focus on offshore wind environmental improvement package, as well as the habitat assessment process for offshore wind projects. The bill, as amended, now also imposes an express mandate on off-gem to support the achievement of net zero, which is key to ensuring that everyone at all levels of government and associated bodies are focused on that goal. District heating systems are also covered in the bill. I am convinced that district heating networks will have a huge role to play as we move away from traditional gas boilers, especially in much of our urban areas where older traditional flats may not be suitable for air-source heat pumps. Presiding Officer, without trying to be too negative, one area that still disappoints me is this devolved Government's stance against new nuclear. Wind power is great, but we need to understand that on cold still days the wind is not blowing and our turbines are not turning. We need to have a good reliable base load and not rely on important electricity for our base. We have some great skills in nuclear and we have some great sites connected to the grid and I would urge the Scottish Government to keep an open mind. Technology is changing and decommissioning is changing. It can provide a real economic benefit to Scotland. That said, I support the RCM motion for us today. Thank you and I now call on Sarah Boyack up to five minutes please. At decision time Labour will support the LCM. The energy bill currently progressing through the UK Parliament is the first piece of energy legislation at this scale to be considered since 2015, so it is a huge opportunity to try and get all the key ambitions in terms of the just transition in the shift to net zero. However, as commentators have described it as a mammoth bill, it still does not go far enough and there is much more that needs to be done. On one level we have just heard the discussion between the Scottish National Party and the Conservative Party about where they disagree. The one thing that I will take away from this debate is that there have actually been some successes in terms of the Scottish Government getting some negotiation success in terms of amendments to the bill, so that is important. The other comment I would make is that it is not just important to see the UK and Scottish Governments working together, but our local authorities are absolutely key players in delivering the planning and community heat and energy projects that we urgently need in our communities. It is important that we do not forget that. Although the energy bill does make some progress, it will leave the UK falling behind in the global race for the jobs and industries of the future. The bill's stated aims are to leverage private investment in clean technologies such as carbon caption storage and hydrogen, reform the energy system so that it is fit for the future, such as facilitating the deployment of energy storage and appointing off-gem as a regulator for heat networks, and ensuring the safety, security and resilience of the UK's energy system. However, there is so much more that could have been done. Although there are a lot of technical considerations included in the bill, a lot of them are actually quite piecemeal and timid falling short of the action required. I was very pleased to see that during the passage of the bill some of the amendments that were made by my Labour colleagues in both the Commons and the Lords were agreed to. The two I want to highlight in particular, moving the hydrogen levy away for consumers bills, will mean that investment to increase hydrogen is still put in place but not on the backs of consumers who would be forking out huge amounts of money for high energy bills. However, I emphasise that it is important that we keep the focus on the push for green hydrogen and that we support developments across Scotland where there is a huge technological process and major opportunities to use our renewables, particularly offshore renewables. In addition, establishing a net zero duty for off-gem ensures that net zero is at the heart of the regulator's work. That is absolutely critical because there are a number of changes that need to be made but net zero needs to hold that together. Although the bill is a step forward, I believe that there is so much more that needs to be done to deliver the just transition that we urgently need. There were also amendments that Labour supported in the House of Lords, which were then removed from the final stage of the bill. For example, on banning coal mines, absolutely key to net zero. The bill fails to support energy efficiency standards for the private sector housing in England, and that would have saved tenants in England hundreds of pounds. That is a huge disappointment, as we discussed that during Poverty Week. One of the progressive policies was cancelled in Rishi Sunach's net zero speech. Let's not kid ourselves—this legislation is not perfect. When we vote for this motion tonight, our view is that the bill was a missed opportunity, something that was commented on by renewables UK and other industry groups. If a Labour Government was elected in the near future, we would continue that co-operative work together between the UK and the Scottish Government, but we would be much more bold because we need a sprint to clean energy by 2030. We would establish GB Energy, a publicly-owned energy generation company HQ in Scotland. We would invest in the skills that we need now to develop the jobs, supply chains and infrastructure to transition our energy supply. That is something that comes across from all the renewables industries that I have been meeting and all the companies that are involved in oil and gas that want to transition across. It is critical, and we need that political support now. The Scottish Government needs to step up to the mark. The development of community-owned energy projects is crucial, and we are missing a huge opportunity right across the UK, but in Scotland. That goes back to having the resources at the local level to get going on those projects. Finally, we would establish a national wealth fund to help to secure the private investment, to ensure that there is finance now and in the future, to support the aspirations of some of those provisions in the bill and the aspirations that many of us have for a decarbonised clean power energy network here in Scotland that would be affordable not just to households but to business as well. That is not going to come from this bill. We need change, but we will support it because of the small steps forward that it will make. I would like to address some of the points made by Douglas Lumson and points made by Sarah Boyack. First of all, if I go to Douglas Lumson, he asked about memorandum of understanding that is still to be negotiated and agreed on and indeed established. He asked about the ministerial forum on CCUS. My officials have had some initial meetings around that, but it has not been formalised as yet. I want to point to one of the remarks that he made about the provisions on hydrogen production and transport. Caws 154 was one of the areas that we wanted to have consent of Scottish ministers, and that was not agreed. It is very unfortunate because the moment is just about consulting Scottish ministers, so we really are going to have to beef up that forum so that it effectively is consent but by another name in that regard. We have really worked together on this bill. There has been a lot of negotiations between the UK Government ministers and Scottish Government ministers on this, and I hope that that is a spirit in which we will continue. I want to point to Sarah Boyack who has mentioned some of the amendments that her party put in place, and we welcome most of those amendments as well. It was nice to hear Sarah Boyack recognise some of the work that has been done by the Scottish Government to get some amendments over the length that are going to be good for Scotland and the people of Scotland. I have to say also very much, and I hope that the situation is going with the comment on hydrogen, we need more agreement on hydrogen standards and labelling, because particularly when we are talking about exporting of hydrogen, the people who want to buy hydrogen produced in Scotland want green hydrogen, so we need to get those standards agreed, so I am glad to hear that Labour support is on that. I will wind up. I just want to say that it is notwithstanding the issues around the negotiation tactics, and I understand why the Welsh Government has not given consent because of those as well. It is notwithstanding that, and that is a wider issue. I want to say that much in this bill is long overdue. The stated end of this bill was to increase resilience and reliability of energy systems across the UK, support the delivery of the UK's climate change commitments and reform. The UK's energy system was to minimise costs to consumers and protect them from unfair pricing. I agree with Sarah Boyack that it could have gone further, maybe we will see certain things go further in the future, but I hope that everyone will agree that, despite those negotiations and some of the tactics around that, some of its limitations, this bill is in Scotland's best interests, and I hope that everyone will vote to consent to the motion today. That concludes the debate on legislative consent motion, Energy Bill UK legislation. It is now time to move on to the next item of business, which is consideration of business motion 10729, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a business programme. I call on George Adam to move the motion. No member has asked to speak on the motion. Therefore, the question is that motion 10729 be agreed. Are we all agreed? The motion is therefore agreed. The next item of business is consideration of business motions 10730, on a stage 1 timetable, and 10731, on a stage 1 extension. I ask any member who wishes to speak against the motions to press their requests week button. I call on George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, to move the motions. No member has asked to speak against the motions. Therefore, the question is that motions 10730 and 10731 be agreed. Are we all agreed? The motions are therefore agreed. The next item of business is consideration of two Parliamentary Bureau motions. I ask George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, to move motions 10732, on committee meeting times, and 10733, on designation of a lead committee. The question on those motions will be put at decision time. I am minded to accept a motion without notice under rule 11.2.4 of standing orders that decision time be brought forward now, and I invite the minister to move the motion. No problem, moved. The question is that decision time be brought forward to now. Are we all agreed? We are agreed, and there are five questions to be put as a result of today's business. The first is that amendment 10716.2, in the name of Miles Briggs, which seeks to amend motion 10716, in the name of Shirley-Anne Somerville, on reversal of the UK Government's two child benefit cap, be agreed. Are we all agreed? The Parliament is not agreed, therefore we will move to vote, and there will be a short suspension to allow members to access digital voting.