Alright, so welcome to part 2 of the discussion, we're going to go straight into it from where we left off. So we'll talk about, oh, we'll talk about what we've learned from each other's cultures. Yes, so if you listened or already watched the first one, this is a continuation of the same conversation. Yes. Enjoy. Yeah, and we just do, if you didn't watch, we made these cards and then we'll talk about the different elements of each other's cultures. That's how it works. So let's go. If there was the first one, they'll see. Okay, all right. Okay, next. Holidays and exploring. This one's for a Dutch thing. Yes. What do you want to comment on that? Yeah, so I learned that structure doesn't always make things fun, but Dutch people have also been able to structure holidays and fun into their planning. So social activities are something that are taking very seriously. I used to fight with her a lot when we started talking because when Elaine goes out with her friends, when she says we're having a coffee, we're having a beer, we're going this, she turns her phone off, she's present because they know that when they're working, and when they decide to go and have a holiday or have fun or explore something, they tune out and they are present and they enjoy it as much as they have to. So there's no in between where you're on holiday, but you can still answer some messages or some phone calls, whatever it is. Yeah, it's mostly very well planned and they make sure that they enjoy everything because when they come back to work, they're stuck in the workspace or in the work frame of mind. And holidays and adventure is something that, yeah, it's culturally been ingrained into, yeah, been ingrained into their way of living. Here, holidays, exploring, traveling, it's now building up, it's now becoming a thing. That's because travel for us, again, we've said that in previous videos, travel for us has always been a practical thing. For family. We're going here today to see family and we're not going to travel for the sake of it and just have fun somewhere else. So it's one thing I really appreciate about, you know, social activities and the importance of social activities in your lifestyle schedule and making room for it actually, like they make real room, save for it, plan for it and make sure they actually execute it and have fun. Yeah. Yeah, holidays are very important in Netherlands. Yeah. Like they're like holy and there was, yeah, it's something people really plan for and look forward to and like some people even, their life is like, you say, spins around their holidays. You know, that's how important the free time is. It's really sacred in Netherlands. Yeah. Okay, next. Bread. Bread. We've talked about it. Bread. My favorite bread. Bread. That's it. You want to say something about it or something? Yeah. So we eat a lot of bread, like bread for breakfast, bread for lunch, even for dinner. Yes. You can eat bread. Yeah. Bread is soup. Bread, bread, bread, everyday bread. That's our main meal. I have to say I came back from my opinion on bread because of Ghana. At first, I really missed it when I was in Ghana. The bread, like the bread, like whole wheat bread. Yeah, because you have variety and it's fresh. Such a variety. That's the thing. Yeah. They like bread, but it's not boring in my opinion. It's a bit much because culturally that's not how I grew up. But it's not boring. Different types. Always fresh. Always like. Yeah, you can go to any bakery and get fresh bread. Fresh. Any time of the day. Fresh. Always fresh. So yeah, it's not boring, but yeah. When you go to restaurants, it limits your options a bit. For example, when we go to restaurants in Netherlands and comments used to a warm meal during lunch, right? My God. In Netherlands, it's difficult to get a like a warm meal for lunch. And yeah. So the bread, it's a cultural thing. And we just have to live with it. But I think we can make our find our own middle way with it. Because sometimes you wouldn't mind bread. I was adapting. I was adapting because then I was now researching fun sandwiches, different ways to eat bread. So that's yes. And sometimes you build our own sandwich like with a lot of egg and bacon. I'll find my eggs. I'll put my mayo or whatever inside. Put a cured ham. Put some, you know, rockets. You know, make it more, you know, juicy and yeah, yeah, I'll eat. I'll eat. But I need to. We've learned. I can't just pick up bread and cheese or bread and just eat it because. And bread is here is not seen as a meal. Whenever I eat a sandwich at work, people are like, Oh, when are you going to eat? I'm like, I just ate bread. Over here, you go to the hospital and you've had maybe bread and maybe hot chocolate or Milo is what we call Milo is the most popular chocolate drink. Yeah, that's an art. God damn. We want to be sponsored by Milo. So you have your bread and Milo, which you call tea as well. Why are you breading it tea?  Like, no, you've not anything today. Oh, I had bread and Milo in the morning. So he will go to the branch like a new meal on its own. Okay, yeah. This is yours. I know. Ironing. Yeah, I've learned from Ghana how important ironing is. Yes. I never ironed in my life. I only iron things. If there would still be a bit wet, like from the washing machine, from when you wash it, you iron it to dry it out a bit. Then I would take out the iron. I had never ironed in my life to make it look neat. It was not.  And just put it on. Yeah. And pants and just put it on. In Netherlands, ironing, or at least in my experience in Netherlands. And just show up. It's not a thing. Ah, yes. Did you look in the room before you left? Honestly, like, I am now the opposite. Yeah, now she wouldn't wear anything. Now she wouldn't wear anything without ironing. I traveled to Niger. I was in a hotel. I brought a few things. I wanted to iron. There was no iron for two days. Wow. I literally texted him. There's still no ironing. There's still no iron. I'm getting itchy. When it was iron, I was so happy. I went out for dinner. I was like showing off my shirt and my, my skirt. It was nicely ironed. I was like, oh my God, who am I? I was literally overflowing with joy because I finally got my iron. If you would have told me this five years ago, I would have laughed at you. Joy of ironing. Can you imagine? So he really like took this to the next level for me. Yeah, because like when we, when we started dating and started living together, anytime she would visit before we go out, like, oh, we're about to go out to go eat somewhere. And I'm ironing my, even t-shirt. Yeah.  You bring ironing for you. Yeah. Ram is very good at ironing, I have to say. We're not going out with you looking, oh, like. But there's also another side. There is a dark side of ironing. What is it? Because now sometimes when I wear something, I get very anxious that I'm not sure if I should iron it or not, or if I iron it well enough. And then I have to ask him like, is this okay or should I iron it again? When it comes to flowy dresses. So ironing also, when you do learn ironing, especially when we do from very early, you know the kind of fabrics and how to iron them.  Polyester don't touch with heat because it's just gonna melt. So you know which ones to iron and which ones not to iron and how to iron them. And when it comes to flowy dresses, I think that you don't necessarily have to iron pleats and lines because they're also, you know, they just need to be seamless, like, you know, so that it's also flowy. So yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's a thing. Yeah. But honestly, adding to that, Ghana, Ghanians, oh, I generalize now, but okay, I'll generalize. Ghanians are very good at, like, presenting well. Yeah, keep it tidy. And dressing needs tidy, smelling good is also a thing here. Yeah, but smelling good is a form of good manners. Yes, but it's taken very seriously here. Wow, in Netherlands, it's, I mean, people like to smell good, but you know how people dress in the Netherlands. They just put on something and go. Sometimes it is not. Also because, no, also, yes, and also because one, the weather is different. Yeah, you're not sweaty all the time. That's true. So it's not musky in the air and everything. That's true. But over here, it's easier to stay neat in Netherlands, yes, but people also put less effort into it. Here in Ghana, sometimes when we go for dinner or we go out somewhere, and I'm just looking at how amazing all the ladies look. Yeah. Whoo! And properly ironed. Properly ironed. Nice dresses, makeup done. Yes. Hair done, nails done, perfume. Yes. Small back, cute back. Everybody's looking like, and I am enjoying it so much. So we go by the dress by how you want to be addressed. Yes, definitely. That's how we like it. But for me, it's such an inspiration to see all these amazing ladies and how they dress. And I'm just admiring them sometimes to give them some kind of look like, girl, you're looking fine. Because it is such a joy to look at. And of course, there's also another side of that, that sometimes it might give people stress and all, but I really learned that to look a certain way. I mean, it can give people pressure as well. Yes, there's a pressure, but okay, yeah, the extra. But when it comes to the basics of ironing, bathing, ironing and perfume, there's no pressure because we've been raised. So it's not difficult when you've been raised like that. Yeah. But for me, it also shows a bit of self-care. Like how you go to the barber, like you make sure everything is neat. It's a moment for yourself. You are taking care of yourself. You are worth it. So for me, I also see the self-care, which I think is great. Yeah. Wow. Hi, Renee. Respect. You want to say something about it or should I say something about it? You can say it and I can say. So respect is really, it's connected to greetings as well. So it's respectful to greet somebody and acknowledge them. Respect is a big thing in Ghana society. You have to greet somebody. If somebody is elder, you need to make sure you approach them respectfully. It's a thing. And there's a lot of hierarchy in Ghana as well. I don't know why that is. I feel it's more, Netherlands is more horizontal. Yeah. So even if you are. Fortunately, we are, I think we roll with bottom up. The youngest child is the one doing the most chores. Yeah. And then there's respect, respect. And even in junior and senior high school, your seniors, there's this hierarchy. Yeah. And in Netherlands, even I remember from, I had a training with a lot of different people from all over the world, and they were so amazed by how the Dutchies in the company would address the manager. Like, hey. You just go by your first name. First name and here. No, no, no. Yeah, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't go by your boss's first name. You don't respect. Yes. Especially, okay. Especially also when they have like some qualification in terms of like a doctorate or, you know, something. You need to put it always. Please. Don't come and say Philip. Just like Philip. Do you know how long it took me to get this doctorate? Yes. Who do you think you are? But also respect is also in a marriage. Sometimes, like the role of the man or the traditional role of a man in the household and the traditional role of the wife in the household, it has a certain respect kind of dynamic, right? Yeah. Maybe more, less with our generation, because yeah, our generation is a step further than maybe your mom's generation. But I remember that sometimes when I speak to women in public, I mean, I just speak to them like we have discussions also in public. It's not that I don't respect them, but we exchange thoughts. But I know it's not normal, for example, to have such discussions in public because it might look I don't respect you as a husband, because I'm talking back. Yeah, I've never, have you ever seen somebody react? It is subtle. Oh, okay. I've never paid attention. They know. I've never paid attention to people looking and feeling like, ooh, she's talking or she's because. Yes, I talk. I'm not looking there at all. But I don't see that. It's a lot of respectability or respectability politics. Yeah. Yeah, that we play and sometimes somebody's wrong, but you can't tell them they are wrong because you respect them.   And sometimes it would find it difficult to come to terms with the fact that the fact that they are older doesn't mean that somebody who's younger than them can't be wiser than them. Yeah.  To add to that, I do like, I mean, I like the horizontal way of working, yes, but I think and then you have the Ghana, I'm pretty much the other side of the coin. But I like a lot from Ghana, how you treat your elderly. Because in Netherlands, it is not good. We see maybe because we're so focused on productivity and efficiency, but we see elderly people because they don't produce anything, right? They're old, like they're not working. We see them a bit like liability. Yes. Well, here in Ghana, I like that you go to elderly people for advice or to learn something how your mother cooks. I can learn so much from it, you know, because she has done it for years and years and she can teach me well. So I like that there's also certain respects. And I like that because you honor more their experience and how they have already lived. So yeah, our respects when it comes to that in the social aspect is more of life experience. Yeah. And you value that. Yes. While in Netherlands, it's like, I can speak for everybody, but I feel it is less respected in that way. Yeah. It is your last part of society once you are past a certain age. And unfortunately, that is also changing in Ghana. Unfortunately, it's not extreme yet, but it's that the generation after us, or is it a Gen Z or something? I don't know. They do less of their respectability politics and life experience thing. Yeah. But it's, I learned that from Ghana culture. For example, somebody would get up and let an elderly person have their seat in the car. I think in Netherlands, people do that, but it's rare. Yeah. So these small things. Anyway, it is me. It's me. Checking in. I wrote this from Ghana culture. So in my experience is that Canadians are really good at checking in.  How are you doing? How's family? How's this? How's that? It's nice. In Netherlands, at least when I call with my friends and family, it's often long. Yeah. But the average person won't check in on you. They won't check in. Well, WhatsApp is a good way to check in. But I rarely get a text like, hey, I'm thinking of you. I hope you're good. Like something like that. It won't happen. Well, in Ghana, I feel people do that more often. And I like that. Yeah. That it's a bit like community of you. Thinking of you without necessarily like having an hour or something to spend with you. It's just like, hey, or people call a lot when they're in the car from work, like, Hey, how was your day? My day was like this. Oh, cool. What are you going to do this? We get not sure yet. Okay, let's text something like that. It's breezy. It's flowy. I like that a lot. And I still need to learn that a bit. Because I sometimes forget with my friends in Ghana, like, Oh, I can just send the text like, Hey, what's up? What's up? How you doing? Yeah.  Yeah, or even do like drop a voice note and stuff. I as well as when you come and visit somebody they want to stay and make sure that you got home, text me that you got home. Yeah, it's important. It's not a joke. Yeah. Yeah. Let me know you go home. I'll text. Have you got to know? Okay, good. Now I can like, I know that you came to visit me and you've made it back home safely. I can sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I appreciate that. And the final one for you. I wrote this one. Entitlement entitlement. Whose can I comment on it? The Dutchies. So I notice a lot that Dutch people are a bit entitled. They even if you look at our history, please people look at our colonial heritage, going to places and claiming that we're going to random places and saying this is mine. You've discovered land. You've discovered humans there. I'm so like, I have loads of feels about this part of that colony. English colony. I won't unpack that now, but there's a certain entitlement even to that train of thought. And it's not only Dutch people. I know the whole the West has this kind of entitlement who goes to a place you don't know and say, this is mine. I have never done that in my life. I'm a guest. Anyway, let's not unpack it. So that's one thing our history shows a bit of entitlement, not a bit. But also in this system, because in Netherlands, we have like a welfare system. And people often have the kind of the feeling that they have a right to something, a right to comfort, a right to care, a right to like, they we deserve this. And I don't think it's necessarily a bad mindset. But I think instead of always looking out for this other person should do this or the the government should do this, or I have the right to check yourself. Yeah. And that I like about Ghana, the people check themselves, what can I do? How can like, what is that? We could also we could also use some level of entitlement. That's true. Because don't ask for a lot. Yeah, we could also use some level of entitlement. We settle. Yeah. Yeah. So I think there is a negative aspect of entitlement, which we've seen from, you know, history till now, which is helping a lot of the Western countries and Western people. Because somebody can just move from America to Ghana. And nothing twice about it, because they feel that they can go anywhere, they can be anything. So it's ingrained in their minds that it gives them some kind of confidence. It's the confidence tends to cross certain lines at most points. But at least they have the confidence to feel that they can do certain things without thinking twice.  And I think it's something we can also learn from, especially with keeping, you know, governments and leadership and people who in charge of development accountable, because we do also deserve certain things. Yes. That we are entitled to as a people.  You're accountable. You're doing this. It affects us in the most positive way, because that is why you're there to do it. So I think that level of entitlement also needs to be learned over time for us, because on average, I would never think that, oh, I'm just going to up and go and start a new life, you know, somewhere on the planet. Like I'm just going to move from Ghana and start a new life because you go with a lot of caution. In that sense, you go with a lot of caution, but Europeans, Americans, people from the West would just buy a ticket and go up and leave and come and exist somewhere and form a new life and deal something from scratch. So yeah, entitlement has good and bad parts. But I like how you connected entitlement to like accountability. So there's another side that entitlement also kind of keeps you accountable. Like this is what you should do. We have the right to do this. So as leadership, you should do this. Yeah. And we deserve it. Yeah. So that I do, I mean, I'm a foreigner, so I can't say much, but I feel that Ghanaians settle quickly. Wow. You deserve so much more. Yeah, we deserve everything good. Yeah. Give it to us. But people don't really demand it from leadership. And sometimes that makes me sad. Because it's also tied to that respectability politics. Oh, so many layers. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to offend them by saying that, ah, please. But I have to say what I, and it's not on the cards. That's probably my last point because we talked long. I do like that in Ghana, you can talk freely about politics. Like, if you drop into a taxi or a truck troll, something is on the radio, this is something that binds us together. Yeah. Like, and even on the radio, like, look at the city breakfast show. Yes, we want to be sponsored. No. They talk freely. They call literally the leadership. Like, what's up with this? I also, yeah. You promised. But it's not exactly too free. Why not? People get in trouble for saying things. But it's not like, okay, I'm not going to name countries because maybe they'll come after us. Okay. But there is a certain freedom of expression that I really appreciate in Ghana. No. It's similar in Netherlands. You can say anything which sometimes is also a problem. We won't go into that now. But I do appreciate that there's something I've learned from Ghana as well to, you can talk to anybody about certain developments in Ghana or what do you think of this or the president did this and you have a whole half an hour discussion and there are so many angles to it. People really like to talk and discuss and they're interested in what you have to say. I think it's a good thing. It's unique, I think. I agree. So yes, this comes to, all this brings us to the end of this video. My name is Kwame. I'm Elay. And if you haven't already subscribed to the channel, subscribe, like the video, share it. 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Thanks, Ashkan. Hey everybody, good to be back. Where do I start? I just want to say thanks. We'll get the volume figured out hopefully. Thanks to everybody for having me. I know I'm sort of the outsider around here. There might be a couple of other health officials around, but I'm here and I was drawn to the community, your community because of the problems you might encounter in dealing with health departments. And my goal is to sort of make that a better experience for you and work with my peers in health to sort of help them understand what you're about. Basically what's happened is you sort of get lumped into the swimming pool category and I honestly believe you don't belong there. So the last three years I've sort of spent working with your community to help you help me sort of thing. Our interests are aligned. So what I wanted to do today was cover a little bit about what's a hazard and what's a risk and inform you about that distinction because I think that's really important for you to be able to engage with me, Public Health Inspector. I wanted to give you a lay of the land of where things are at from a regulatory perspective throughout North America. And then maybe finally finish with some advice for you to consider as you go forward and meet with health inspectors and things like that. But before I start into that, I wanted to use an analogy to your industry that came to my mind, take you through a similar experience with a different industry and show you potentially how interaction with the health department and how perhaps even the health department made the wrong decisions. So this is going back a while and you may or may not have heard about this. There were three university trained graduates who had this idea for a company and the company would serve the public in the sense that they would offer physical and psychological benefit to the public if you needed the service. So these three graduates, they take out second mortgages on their home and they get a commercial space in this location in eastern U.S. and they eventually grow their business. They're able to hire a fourth person who's sort of an admin role and then another person who is helping with the technical side. So they're growing business and popular. And lo and behold, that got the attention of local officials, namely the health department. The health department came to their business and they had a discussion around like, what are you about? What do you do? And like flotation, there wasn't a lot of evidence to show that the service that they provide is safe or not. And that's kind of where you're at. There's this discussion right now about the safety. And so what happened was that that relationship didn't go very well at first and eventually the health department showed up with a court order saying, shut this down. So again, actually some footage, I think the footage you could describe it is catastrophic actually, the impact on the community. And this is sort of what happened here. Health department orders to shut it down. This happens and I'm glad you're all laughing because if you weren't, I'd be in trouble. All these ghosts sort of leave the building and destroy essentially the city of New York. And okay, good. I'm glad I got a few chuckles because what's going to follow is pretty dry perhaps. But I wanted to talk about this particular moment in time and reflect on who you are and who I am and the long arm of the law, if you will. So you've got this sort of clear divide between the operators who are sort of going like, we offer this service that's good and we need our service and you get the sort of the law enforcement angle and you've got this utility worker. You've got the man or the city official saying, we need to do something about this. And then you've got Walter Peck, if you've ever seen this movie. Walter Peck, can they officially refer to him as Pecker? Sort of saying shut it down. I don't know anything about this, shut it down to prevent some bad things from happening. So that's sort of where health officials are at. We're a very risk averse community, sometimes to a fault. And we operate, you might hear something, we might hear us tell you something called the precautionary principle. So we, precautionary principle is, to summarize it as basically we don't want to wait around for something bad to happen when we could have put an intervention in place to prevent it. The other side of the precautionary principle is you as the industry are responsible for describing to us why you are safe. So it's not, the burden is on you to prove that you're safe, not for me to prove that you're unsafe. So that's very similar to what happened here and it's very similar to what goes on in a lot of float centers in certain jurisdictions. We really struggle with the idea that you let people float naked in water and there's no chlorine in there. That's just where our heads are at. We're used to swimming pools and that's sort of an issue. So in the last few years, I'm not a words on slide this guy, so I apologize there's a few in this one. But basically I've been coming to the conference and a lot of other health officials and auxiliary health officials have been coming to the conference and building a relationship with your community over the last few years. There's also a lot of organizations with acronyms, so that's never a good sign. You've got obviously know the FTA and if you didn't know, the Flotation Tech Association has a set of standards, multiple pages of standards and guidelines on how to operate your centers in a safe, effective way and I personally believe that those standards put you in a position to keep the public safe sufficiently. There's also all these other acronyms, the National Collaborating Centre for Environmental Health and PHO, that's Public Health Ontario. They've done some work in looking into the literature and evidence into flotation and maybe some auxiliary sort of recreational water activities and looked at evidence and risk. The National Sanitation Foundation has come out with, at one time they were using your community to sort of inform this document called a Component Specific Certification CCS and that process sort of ended recently. They sort of gave up, I guess you could say and that work has sort of been taken over by the Centre for Disease Control, the CDC which I'm sure you've heard about. If you haven't heard about them, just watch the first episode of Walking Dead. The CDC sort of gets taken over. They play a huge role in keeping the public safe, the CDC and I would never say anything untoward about them. They birthed this arms-length community called the Council for the Model Aquatic Health Code and we'll talk about that later. So there's all these outside interests, I guess, sort of in the health community, showing an interest in your community and lots of different perspectives. Last year the Flotation Tech Association hosted a workshop and I was part of it. This is just an example of the things we're coming up with. Achieving health and safety outcomes in Flotation. There's lots of different reasons why you're different than pools. This is an abbreviated version of the resource we created and I do believe this is available on the FTA website. But what it is, it just sort of breaks down why you're different than pools and why you're a little bit safer. And we'll talk about that when we talk about risk assessment. I also want to touch on the term regulation and then regulate. What do I mean when I say regulate things? I'm just talking in the general sense today. So the general idea that we as a society, health officials in your industry are going to establish this agreed-upon set of rules or norms that govern sort of how you should operate. So I don't mean the great development of an act or a regulation or a code or a guideline or a standard or best practices. I don't really mean that today. What I mean is just regulate. Somebody wants to put a set of rules in front of you that you should follow. And there's lots of different agencies saying our rules are the best. So that's sort of happening right now. So when is the right time to regulate? We generally, in Canada, where I come from and we're in the States here where we're gathered here today, we live in a free democratic society and liberty prevails and you should be able to pursue your rights and freedoms. Sometimes, if you do that in a way, you could affect the public. You could harm the public. And so we have these impetus to put rules in place to keep people safe. And that's a good thing. But right now, when's the right time to do that? Well, maybe there's some harms or some unsafe outcomes happening. Evidence has come forward to say that actually the way we used to do things is wrong. And you put these measures in place to keep people safe. So why don't we just regulate everything? Why don't we just regulate flotation and get it over with? Why don't we let all the state departments come up with their rules? You don't need to regulate to get a positive outcome. I want to make that point clear. There's no shirt, no shoes, no service. That's not some health rule where I'm going to get some chest germs on the food or something. It's there as a societal norm and if you show up to the restaurant with no shirt on, it's more of a policy and more of a... But it's very effective. If you walk into a restaurant with a shirt on, you sort of consciously go, this isn't right. And then self-regulation can work. And this is sort of something that came up in some of the workshops we had yesterday. And I've got the picture of the fawns giving a thumbs up. But if you can picture a float center with something like a thumbs up and maybe the FTA logo or something similar that sort of told the public, we got this. And then the association and this facility belongs to the association and the people within are educated and competent workers and we follow this established set of guidelines. That would give the public a lot more sense of assurance. So you don't need a province or a state or a country to say you must follow these rules. Perhaps even just self-regulation could work. So why don't we just regulate everything? Another example is unintended consequences. It can happen that you didn't think about. So you sort of rushed to put out these rules and then all of a sudden you go, okay we're using the rules and there's things happening that we didn't think would happen. And this, here's maybe a better example. So we want to prevent people from falling downstairs. So we're going to warn them that every step you take, you could fall. And then eventually you trip over all the things. It becomes an impediment to safety when you put these rules in place. And in your context the unintended consequences that I'm observing are requirements for chlorine. And the unintended consequence could be that once you get into an enclosed space what's the air quality issue? So you think you're putting in this great measure with chlorine or bromine to disinfect the water if it's needed and then you're creating this unintended consequence to health. And then again, why don't we regulate everything? Well regulations need to be proportional and I talked about this when I described earlier that we live in a free society you can't just make rules, they have to make sense. There has to be this need for the rule. There has to be evidence to show that if the rule isn't there harms would occur. And you have to be balanced and sensible to the population. So one example I was just talking with some operators last night one example is there's still states that don't require you to wear a helmet when you ride a motorcycle and in Canada we all have to and why is that different in California than it is here or in Canada where I come from? It's because the people of California decided we're good with that. We don't want that rule imposed on us or our freedom is more important than that rule. So health officials can't just hide behind the cautionary principle and say we're going to put rules in place because we think something might happen one day but those rules have to make sense. And that's sort of what I need to remind my peers when they have these discussions. So again, terribly wordy slide. If I were to stand up here and have an argument with one of my peers or a discussion these are some of the reasons why I would say we should consider not regulating flotation. I do believe the flotation tank standards are sufficient to keep people safe. There's no really evidence of injury, there's no real illness right now. I mean that's not the end all be ill of the reason but that definitely should be considered. I think things are safe right now as practiced under the FDA standard and so there's no real need right now to make things safer. We haven't identified the risks properly, we haven't identified the hazards and I want to get into that next and then is it proportional? Do the benefits create an undue harm to your community as small business owners? I don't know if that question has been answered. So in short, the precautionary principle doesn't override your, it doesn't always automatically override your constitutional rights or in Canada our charter rights and freedoms. So the current landscape, lots of players, lots of acronyms out there. Everyone feels their right, everyone feels that they're doing their part to keep people safe. But who's right and who's wrong? I do want to take a second to talk about this process that's undergoing right now, a little bit of a call for a sense of urgency and I think at the end of my presentation, Ash kind of might fill in any blanks I leave here, but you should all know that the Center for Disease Control and the Council for the Model Aquatic Health Code, it was introduced this year that they were proposing to put rules for flotation tanks into something called the Model Aquatic Health Code. The Model Aquatic Health Code is a set of rules, suggested rules if you will, that health departments can adopt in full or in part to support their swimming pool legislation. There's many jurisdictions that don't have legislation so they can take this code and call it the rules or if you're in a province or state that has rules and you're going to update them, you might look to the code to guide you in what the rule should be. So there's this process going on and we're sort of halfway through the process. I know this is extremely pixelated, so we've got this idea that there's been this proposal and we're about here where we could vote. So this proposal is going to go forward to a vote in October and you need to be a member of the Model Aquatic Health Code Association to vote and I would encourage you all to get to know what's being proposed. Consider joining this. There's a nominal fee to join this group and then you get to first provide comment on the proposed rules and you get to have your own vote. I think we could get, we could probably spend a full 25-minute presentation on this process and where it's gone wrong in a lot of our opinions, but suffice it to say that this is how we feel. This is Mr. Pecker sort of saying, yeah, please send in your comments and then to hear on a phone call, yeah, we didn't listen to those is sort of where we're at so we're sort of putting out this, want to make you aware that this is an issue. Some of the proposed things, if adopted, would propose measures that they're adopted could affect your business and they will affect your business if adopted by the local health department, so I'll leave you with that positive thing and we'll move on. If you want to talk about that more, I'm around to the end of the day, go to the Float Tank Association table, they can give you more information. Dr. Feinstein, Ashkan Graham, all can get you pointed in the right direction, you can start by maybe just visiting, just Google those five letters and become a member and get to know the process, but I'll leave you with that. Let's talk about risk assessment. How is risk assessed? So I think sometimes where public health officials go wrong is they, anytime something could go wrong, they call it a risk, but that's not right. There's hazards that become risks and so pianos tend to be pretty safe. It's not a risky activity to play the piano, but where pianos can become risky is sort of, oh, I just pulled this random picture off the internet, anybody, and then if someone is dangling a piano over somebody, you might think, okay, the likelihood of a potential negative outcome increases if that piano is dangling over somebody's head and I sort of look up at these thousand pounds of Epsom salt up here going, what better way to demonstrate hazard versus risk? So if a 50-pound bag is beside me, I'm likely not going to be crushed, but the likelihood increases as I sort of walk over here and so I'm hoping, I'm assuming there's lots of good safety measures in place to prevent that hazard from becoming reality as I stand here. So we don't really deal in pianos in public health, but we do deal with infectious organisms. Here's one called norovirus, and norovirus is a gastrointestinal virus that's very virulent. One to 10 viral particles can make you sick, and what I've got here is that, luckily, you have to get into your mouth and swallow it to make you sick, and so we've got this much more risky because the mouth is open, the mouth is closed here. We could get further into it and know how much gets caught up in the facial hair, but for now, suffice it to say, hazards aren't, we don't regulate to prevent hazards, we regulate to prevent risks, and we struggle. I think we quickly, too quickly jump in public health to that is risky when we haven't done a full hazard assessment first. So if we break down, and again, I'm going to just tell you that the why of why I'm going to call these things unlikely has been covered in other presentations and in the podcast I did with Ashkahn. So if you want to sort of know more about why these, I would describe these potential hazards as unlikely, we can get into that, but the growth of pathogens has been demonstrated to be a low likelihood in your float solution. Ingestion of pathogens because you don't swallow that water, low likelihood of infection because you need to drink those or eat those germs to make you sick. Likelihood of drowning, low, so a couple cases of people drowning, more related in my opinion to the use of drugs, in particular horse tranquilizer, but that's not going to inform risk. That's sort of like explainable for other reasons. Skin infections, there's a little bit of information to show that likelihood of sort of accumulating germs on your skin is low in these settings. We need to do more work there but right now I would describe the likelihood of low. Plus if you have a cut, you're going to cover that because it stings, that's a safety measure that helps. Likelihood of not showering, so pools, we know people don't shower before they jump in. In your environments, we suspect that that rate of showering is much higher before and certainly after because you're going to get that salt off. That's all protective from a public health standpoint. Acquiring a sexually transmitted infection, no documented cases, tell me how that could happen, I don't know, but these are the things public health officials go, that's a risk. And I go, no, you're dreaming about potential hazards here. Let's describe how likely that is, very low. Urinary tract infection, same thing. You might go, well, there's a potential chance for something to crawl up you in that region. Show me some evidence and then we can talk about risk before we jump to that conclusion. Harms of peroxide, public health inspectors aren't really comfortable or all that familiar with the use of hydrogen peroxide in aquatic environments. But think about what we can do with peroxide, we can put it on our cuts, we can put it on our teeth and shine UV light on it to make our teeth brighter. It's a safe compound, safe chemical, especially at the low parts per million concentration you're using. Contrast, that was swimming pools. The likelihood of growth of pathogens, I see it all the time, it's the ideal breeding ground. Even in the presence of chlorine, germs can exist. High likelihood of growth of pathogens in a swimming pool environment. Ingestion of pathogens, we know that you swallow water when you swim. In the amount of milliliters of water ingested per swimming, higher likelihood of that potential hazard happening means better chance of a risk. Drowning. Not all pools are associated with drowning, but definitely the evidence shows that people drown in swimming pools. Skin infection, same thing, likelihood of not showering very high and there's all kinds of studies to show that. You're different than swimming pools at the fundamental level and what's happening is you're being compared at this level and I think that's unfair. Pardon me. So this phrase, risk to risk aversion is something we talk about in public health and we talk about it all over, like constitutional law talks about this as well. I've got the spin bikes. Has anybody here go to spin class at all? You've ever been to one? You've heard about these classes where you spin? So they have that out there and it's like the societal norm to wipe down your bike with a disinfectant wipe after. They show that the inappropriate use of those disinfectant wipes on environmental surfaces actually increases the chance of growth of that germ you're trying to kill. And also because these germs transmit their genetic information to each other, increases the likelihood of antibiotic resistance. So if you try to have to take a drug to treat an infection, we're creating in our environment these super bugs and so there's risks to risk aversion. We might think it's, you know, I should wipe this down, but in fact maybe just clean it. You know, you don't need the disinfectant part. Another way to look at risk assessment and this is called a natural swimming pond. We're opening one, not we, but in Alberta, we're opening one of these. It's an outdoor swimming pool. It looks like a swimming pool, but instead of a filter and instead of chlorine in the water, this is a wetland that it's filtered through. So the wetlands are aquatic bacteria, the pathogen is out of the water, and then it passes by UV light and goes back into the water. So this is a non-chlorinated swimming pool and that's going to blow the minds of some health regulators, but how is this made possible? And again, this is present in Alberta. It's present in Minneapolis as well and throughout Europe. And what you can do this, if you do your own risk assessment on these particular situations, and this is what they look at. They have a quantitative microbial risk assessment and what they do is they look at the hazards, like what could go wrong here? What are we concerned about? What organisms are out there? How many organisms? So let me move down to dose response.  And then you talk about exposure. So yeah, there's these organisms in the water, but can they get into the body to make you sick? You need to do that particular assessment. And from there, you characterize risk and you start to put in different measures to keep it safe. So there's another way to look at flotation, I think, and this might be the way to do it. What can you do? You know, we're here to help you. What can we do? What can you do for me? Play a role in the precautionary principle. So you need to do your part as an industry to tell us at Public Health that you're safe and then I think you need to support a unified voice. There was this article that came out in eastern Canada. 25% of people reported that they shower before they go into swimming pool. Only 25%. So 75% of visitors to this public swimming pool don't shower before they go in. I have this feeling that your rate of showering is much higher. And I'm encouraged to hear that some facilities are looking at that. You could do a simple, you don't need a scientific study design other than maybe a survey of your clients, maybe through the FDA that says that did you shower today? Yes or no? But a compliance rate that's, I suspect to be 85% or higher that people shower before and after, that's all protective. And you know what it does? It differentiates you from the swimming discussion. Another one is, and we've heard about it today, is I think your industry needs to get the health benefits of your service in front of us in a better way. So we don't, I've talked to my colleagues and I'll say, you know, there's a lot of evidence emerging that this is a healthy activity. It keeps people out of hospitals, keeps people away from prescription drugs. That's all part of the health discussion too. And we don't really know about that. So I encourage that sort of work and I'm excited to hear what's happening there.  I know it's got a UV lamp and an ozone and a filter, but do germs live in here and what's the germ reduction? I think we could start to market our materials better to people like me so that I know that if I'm going to buy any piece of equipment, it's going to do what I hope it does. Another example of that might be ultraviolet light. So a lot of systems have ultraviolet light, but we don't really know is it transmitting any light through the tubes where the water is passing through. So there's some work to do there. Unified voice. And we're going to cross the streams, right? We're going to, if you want to deal with the CDC and the NSF, you need a unified voice. I do believe that and you've got a very committed board at the FDA and voices at the Folk Collective and other organizations that can help with that, and I think we should support that. It helps me as a regulator knowing what the community is and who represents it. And finally, I want to leave you with this, is to understand hazards and risks and don't be afraid to challenge the assumptions that I might make about your industry. I just want to say thank you again. I know I'm sort of the outsider here, but it's a common vision and that is healthy people. And we have to keep in mind that we're not on dissimilar paths here. Thank you so much for having me again. Thank you.


An overview about wood screws. Hola woodworkers, Paul Carlson here, a small workshop guy. If you notice a bad left eye, I got a shot at it in the doctor head and blood vessel, so it's in bad shape right now. To start our discussion on wood screws, let's make our Canadians friends happy and talk about the Robertson first. The Robertson, you would be familiar with the Kreg pocket hole jigs. That has a Robertson square head on it. So it's, you have to have a square bit obviously. An advantage of them are that they fit very nicely on there. They, for whatever reason that I don't understand, they don't drop off. Same thing, sort of true for another one I'm going to talk about. So that's the Robertson square head. That's primarily what everybody in Canada uses. Now in the U.S., our most common is the Phillips. But the Phillips got some downsides. The Phillips is just a little crosshatch. And it's okay but it tends to slip. An improvement over that is the Torx, T-O-R-X. And that's a little star pattern. And those come with bits in the boxes so that you have the right size star pattern bit to go with your screws. Okay, so that's the three primary types. They are, screws are either designed to be, to stop at the top of the workpiece and not go down into it. Or they are designed to actually embed themselves into the workpiece and be flat with the surface. Many of the better ones have a little kind of a teeth arrangement on the underside of the head in order to allow it to drive further down. Disadvantages to that is if you keep using your impact driver on it, it'll keep driving down. So be careful when you do it down. The screws can either come fully threaded where the threads go all the way from top to bottom. Or they can come where they're just partially threaded. Usually about two thirds threaded and then a third smooth. Different reasons for that. I'll give you a link to a video down below describing the thought process there. My favorites are SPAX and GRK. They're a little higher quality. They cost more but they're worth it, believe me. And that's kind of an overview of screws. Very basic. Small workshop guy, signing off.


Hi you guys, Lindsay here. Welcome back to my channel, Inside the Hymn. This one is super fun. I'm so excited about this one. So this is a little spool, a wooden spool that I wrapped in my um scrap fabric. I had about I don't know maybe a quarter yard of this blue gingham and I really went to town with it. I was able but because all my ornaments are sort of small I was really able to kind of make it stretch. So I've got that and then these wooden spools you may or may not know this but these are available in a variety of sizes in the craft store in Joanne's at Michaels. They have these wooden spools. I don't really truly know what they're supposed to be for but as a sewist I'm like hello that looks just like you know something that you would wrap fabric or yarn around. So they also come in this little adorable itty bitty size which I love and then if you don't want to use scrap fabric and you want to make it look a little bit more like an actual spool of thread you can just wrap yarn around it and it looks very thread-like there. To get the fabric around the spools I simply just cut the fabric to the same width as the spool and then put a bead of hot glue wrapped it around and another bead of hot glue and there's a seam on the back but you'll never ever be able to see it. With the thread I just started with some glue wrapped all the way around to the end and then finished off with some glue over here so there's just one layer of yarn going around this spool. And then if you are slightly neurotic like me then you keep your empty thread spools anyways like this is a Gudermin one and you can reuse this like a truly upcycled situation where you're using scraps of fabric scraps of yarn and an old empty spool so you could do that as well. They also you know come in these little beige colors. I obviously keep mine I probably should utilize it and put them on the tree or something but for now they just kind of collect in the drawer under my machine. Okay so that was pretty straightforward I have a few different sizes of this one. I did end up staining the wood for a different project that I'm going to tell you guys about here shortly but the wood stain did take really well and it does give it that little bit more of like a rustic vibe and oh also to get the to get the hook on there all I did was tie you know the twine together I tied it in a knot thread the folded end up through the hole that's in the spool and it just hangs from this little knot on the bottom really straightforward and simple to get that little hook on there just make sure you give yourself enough space to hang it on a branch.


Hey, Joseph, look, you made a piece of art. It's been a long week being sick. It's just been a long week, but it's almost the weekend. I hope your weekend is going really well. All right, here's the deal. One second, here's the deal. All right, we're back. So, just checking my email, and as you all know, I love running. I've been running for 21 years, I think, since eighth grade, and I've never received a comped entry into a race. Until now, basically, 2018's gonna be a good year, a great year, but you gotta take the necessary steps to make sure it's a great year. So, I just told myself a couple weeks ago, you know what, we need, I need to be, quote unquote, a little more aggressive with getting my name out there into the running, and specifically the ultra running world. So, I typed up my resume, my running resume, sent it to some people, sent it to some race directors, and sure enough, I heard back from a guy, Tropical John, he goes by, and he's like, yeah man, we'd love to have you at our race in April. So, it's February, April's not too far off. Anyway, it's a comped entry, it's not a cheap race, you know, as far as price, but it's free, it's competitive, the ultra runner of the year from 2017 looks like he's entered into this race.  Is the bot, you know that, it's like if you're working at your job, if you're doing the dishes at your house, yeah, it feels good to be recognized for something that you've been putting a lot of effort into. So, anyway, just wanted to communicate that to you. We're registered. Oh, we're watching some running races. Oh, that's cool. So, doing some scouting, doing some of the course that I'm gonna run here in about two months. So, I'm excited, but the last 10% of any race, you gotta get your upper body moving, or else, because your legs get so tired. They're so strong, because of so many miles you're putting on them, but they're also so tired at the end of races. It's all about that upper body, the last 10%. So, I gotta work on that. Let's go. You're getting heavier. See what I mean? She's coming. Better close your eyes, mama, when you get over here. Okay, she closed her eyes. She's just gonna stand right here on the carpet. Then she'll look around the corner. Okay, she's gonna- Tell me when to open, Joseph. Good job, Joseph. Over the backyard, the right yard. Joseph cleaned up the whole backyard. Oh, he did. Good job, buddy. Job well done, sir. Oh, Seth, what do you want Joseph to do now? Okay, good job taking your boots off. Your boots are outside, because they're just so light.  It's countdown time, baby. Literally, baby. It's almost time getting huggies.


So, we've decided to upgrade our FreeNAS box, and we're happy that project went really, really well, really, really smooth. But it also has to do with the design of FreeNAS, and not everybody understands a few concepts of how it works. So the project went like this. We had a motherboard with six SATA ports, and we had six hard drives in there. Good enough for what we're doing, but not good enough for what we want to do. Because we want to add some more volumes in here, and I want to play with some of the VM system in here. I wanted to put a SSD array in there. And doing that, well, with only six drives in there and only six SATA ports, we were kind of stuck. And I could put a prize squeeze in the case it was in, maybe two more drives, because if they were the SSDs, but the case was kind of full of drives, it wasn't very efficiently laid out. So we got this case, and this was given to us from a friend. Thank you very much, Nick, for giving us that case as a friend of ours, who also likes the YouTube channel and dropped it off for me. And this case is older, which created a little bit of a problem for us. We had to modify the power supply on it. And I say had to, as in we couldn't stand all the noise that the fans made. Room, like a jet engine, I know. We also realized that they're using about 70 watts just to run the power supply without even a motherboard plugged in. That just wasn't going to work for us. So with a little bit of ingenuity, we mounted a standard power supply to the bottom of the case. Now, because this mounts at the bottom of a rack, and it's our rack in our system, this EVGA power supply, we bolted on the bottom and put it all together. Actually, it made cable management pretty easy. Having it just hanging off the bottom of the back of the case, no big deal, nothing's in the way. Cables routed through where the old power supplies went, and away we go. And because standard power supplies are fairly inexpensive, we went on and ordered two modular power supplies. That way, if the power supply ever goes out, I just go grab another one and pop it in there. We decided to use this controller here, because, well, that ended up a friend sent this to me. We got this Iocress 16 port SAS PCIe. You can pick them up on Amazon. Looks through about $199 right now. And it works great. There's one person has a bad review that says it runs a little hot. We did notice it run a little hot, but we really didn't have an issue. We have good airflow in this case. So it's definitely warm to the touch. But we put that in. And one nice thing about the way FreeNAS works, we plugged in all of the drives, all the volumes, are now on this, and that we still have the other ones. We just went to the bottom rows, and this went to the top rows, and we put the drives in the top rows. Because of the way FreeNAS works, it goes into the volumes and matches up the drives and imports them. FreeNAS doesn't care. More specifically, ZFS doesn't care. ZFS doesn't care where it was. So the way the drives work on FreeNAS is it doesn't say that this drive is plugged into ADA1 or ADA2. You can flip these drives, you can swap them back and forth, and move them around in the system. And it's using the signature on the drive to figure out which volume it belongs to. So these three TBs here are not paired up in the same slots, just the way it lined up across the slots when I was putting these in. It doesn't really matter to the system. Matter of fact, we purposely, on this system, put a gap. We put a row at the top, we skipped a row, and we put another row in. And that's really because just to dissipate the heat between the drives because they're so close to each other, this seemed to be a little bit cooler. We first had them all in together, and we realized we were running a little bit hot. And this helped cool them down by putting a little bit of a gap, so one row gap. And we're actually going to reuse the middle ones. We're going to put an SSD array in there. We're in the process of acquiring some SSDs, and it's going to be for some more testing things at some of the future expansion stuff we want to do. But this is really nice, the way it works, because free NAS, if I have to rearrange the drives, I can just power off the machine while it's off. When it powers back up, it doesn't care if the drives are rearranged. It just picks them up, goes whatever order they're in. I found all the drives that belong to this pool, and I have no errors. Now you can take this, this is hot swap and live, so we can swap out a drive that's bad and put it in there and go through the rebuild process. I have another video on that about replacing hard drives in free NAS. It handles drive failures perfectly fine.  We had some Toshiba drives in here, and they just seem to have a hard time with free NAS. They kept throwing errors, having lots of read errors, but I pulled the drives out and I'm actually using one of the three terabyte Toshibas in my computer, works perfectly fine. It just doesn't like being in the free NAS. We never really investigated too much as to why. We just picked up a different brand drive, put it in there, and the problem just disappeared. Back to the free NAS box. We also added some more memory in here, and I plan to do some more videos on how the VMs work. I started messing with it a little. I don't have any VMs running at the moment to show you guys, but that's kind of how the upgrade project went. And a lot of it's just the resiliency of it. So you can swap motherboard, you can swap whichever you want inside a free NAS, and it doesn't really care. As long as it finds those volumes and the config file works, it can automatically grab those volumes, mount them and all your shares and all your information comes back up. But something important I'm going to point out here. When you're backing up free NAS, there's the config backup, and then there's the key backup. This is a key drive here we keep the security on. So these drives have a key. We can change the passphrase because we actually have a passphrase on them too, which means I have to type it in each time we reboot the server. But really important is that we download the key. Click download now. It wants to know the root password, and it downloads a key that we keep a backup off of the free NAS box. This is so critical because without that key, I can't remount the hard drives. And people sometimes think that when you're in here and they go to system and to general, that downloading the save config, like that'll do it. No. Even if you export the password secret seed, it's not going to allow that to restore. So here's the config DB, and then I got to go over to the volumes and download the key file. So those are the backup files. And it's a key for each volume you have set. So we have each of these volumes set. We have a key for each volume. That being said, you want to make sure you have a backup of those. That's really, really critical to making this work properly. So just wanted to comment on that. I've said it before in other videos and I've had people tell me they've had horror stories of, oh yeah, no one told me I had to back up the key. I thought just by backing up my free NAS, it would do it. But this is, you know, overall a little bit of a video to show you that we upgraded it, talk about the upgrade, talk about what we used to upgrade it and the fact that free NAS is kind of hardware agnostic. So if I take these volumes and I pop them in another free NAS box, I can just import those volumes. And if the volume's encrypted, I do have to have the key as well. But I can simply just move them back and forth like this. So it's really nice, it's really convenient. And I know there's been plenty of discussion about, oh, you're using some consumer hardware to run your RAID system. That's part of the beauty of free NAS is I can pop in another motherboard and it would just boot right back up and go, there you go, it's working. It doesn't really care. As long as it can get to the drives and get to the volumes and I have the proper encryption key, I can import the volume and have it up and running right away. So this is part of the beauty of free NAS. Well, thanks for watching. If you have some questions or comments, leave them below. Thanks for watching, like and subscribe. Have a great day.


All right, and we're live Don't say anything that you'll regret because it's on the internet forever So where should we start I'm gonna try to pull the jurors So I hope everyone can can see that um Most of a batista you weren't here so much last week, but it looks like we've got a good A good bit of progress on Some of the incrementals build stuff That jesse and I hadn't had worked on mostly jesse. So that's jepp Let's see here Yeah, so jepp 305 is in um in draft state and We looked through it a lot last week. Um That looks really good. So thank you. Thank you for doing that jesse. Uh, I just merged Jepp 306 um Which was the instance health checking that you had worked on batiste Um, and so that at least as far as a draft goes, um, that looks correct But the one thing that I wanted to call everybody's attention to if they haven't had a chance to look at it was this bill of materials jepp that um carlos has been working on in a draft and the way I understand it this there's going to be a lot of um interesting overlap between this um, what jesse had written for 305 And then some of the the update work that I am doing right now So batiste it might be useful for you to spend some time to look at that Yeah, um, definitely. I saw it, but I forgot to have it. Okay. Well back this morning whenever I just read through it as well and it definitely I need to mentally carve out the time because there's references or there should be references between what you had worked on jesse and this and I need to make sure I understand how these things relate Um, roe from a test, oh good jesse sir. Yeah, I mean as far as My I wouldn't exactly call it a review but more a list of questions. I mean basically I just wanted wanted to see More more details about how this would interact with development workflow and so on because for jepp 305. I mean, I'm really focusing on Exactly what would change for development workflow for developers to publish stuff um I didn't pay much attention to the particular interactions with essentials Or with um test infrastructure so much. I just figured that would sort of fall out of it in some way They sort of want to see what the Long-term goal here is Um, roe from uh, the testing perspective. Have you had any chance to take a look at the work that jesse has been doing? Not yet. I have to make you but not yet Um, let me go to 305 as well. So, uh With The reason that I think this or curlo said he couldn't join right now. So We might might want to revisit next week or Okay Well, I think um, I didn't think we would resolve any of the the overlap But I wanted to call this to your attention Roe because these two I think will have a strong impact on how we do the test automation workflow For jinkins essentials This the the theory being at least as far as I am understanding How this is all going to interact these interlocking pieces As we're going to have our bill of materials and we're going to you know That will be in the master branch and then A pull request will get automatically fired that says hey, there's new plugin changes that have been built in this incremental's repository Or someone files it manually. They want to promote one of you know, a new incremental build of a plugin um Now would be a pull request like the production branch in jinkins essentials Um And that are in the evergreen repository really and then we would need to run some of the test automation To make sure that that is a legitimate uh, you know valid installation of jinkins essentials um So whatever if we're if we're needing more information to run the acceptance test for any stuff or pct um From the bill of materials then that would be a good thing to bring in now um Or if we need to store more information to make testing easier From the incremental stuff Um, then you know as soon as we know that the better as well Okay, okay. Yeah, I will read this Today or tomorrow morning as Yeah, no worries Yeah, I mean from so I guess my my summary of the interaction of 305 would be that Um If there's anything that you could do today that works fine with Regular maven releases, you know such and such plugin 2.38 and you're able to publish, you know test that and publish it um, then with 305 deployed This exact same workflow ought to Work exactly the same way with any You know with any individual commit without having to run maven release plugin At least for things on the master branch. I mean, but currently it it allows you to Deploy commits that come from any branch or pull request probably for purposes of the essentials manifest we would want to have a Enforced rule in place that says, you know, if you're deploying to the production Then it has to be a commit that's actually in master itself Right Okay Indicating that's gone through review and has been merged by an authorized person and all of that Right, but otherwise it should just be the same as picking up any other release version I think the the the stuff that you've been working on here Jesse is going to be really interesting for testing as as we start to adopt it more and more Is what this basically means for all is we will have the machinery to drop Builds from pull requests and from branches into this maven repository directly from Somewhat directly there's a little bit of sleight of hand, but somewhat directly from ci.jenkins.io So if you take the oleg's, you know warpackager thing And you should also be able to just pull in arbitrary Things from pull requests and all this other stuff to do a really strong our good You know full integration test with a full environment, which is cool So in other words it's always needing to have a special syntax for saying By the way pull in, you know check out this pull request and build it and stuff You should just be able to say, you know Use the following version and you already have the binary available somewhere Yeah, I think it's gonna be really cool. Yeah quite quite interesting more mostly for the pct when when you need to run the pct One plugin and you are going to test other plugin that depends on your changes You you need something like this to be able to create the Wi-Fi to be used later. So this is quite interesting Yeah I think that's that's part of the motivation here. Um Just to make this a lot easier where did that motivation go? Merp issues. Yeah Yeah, it's a it's a thorough document Raul. So I'm sure you'll have Yeah I'm going to do that just after this All right, um and so outside of that Last week the other thing that was going on is I started to work on this client server lifecycle for updates which I think You know patiss tonight. I've spent quite a bit of time last week talking about it. I've been working on the On actually rationalizing how we're going to manage these update levels that um, I had posted to the mailing list um, so on jenkinsi dev There's a thread where I continued some of the Outline some of the in-person discussions that patiss tonight had last week um, and as you know You you all saw this morning is really trying to Rationalize how these things are all going to fit together with the channels. So I'm expecting this to get Wrapped up from an implementation standpoint probably later today. Well, you know when everybody else here is it, you know Goes to sleep basically um But I think from the um from the testing perspective for you role the um The thing that really changes or the thing that um The update levels really allow us to do is test every single Potential upgrade from from one level to the next um, so we'll have a pretty strong audit trail to where if if patissed um Starts with uh version zero That and then he disconnects for two weeks and we don't see him and the current update level is 14 and then When the teased instance comes back online it will update to update level one then two then three and four etc So that we're not actually delivering an untested update to uh to an end user Which it's going to take a little bit um Little bit of time for betis instance to update If he disappears for two weeks, but um, we decided to go the safe route rather than trying something different Yeah More creative maybe later, but I guess for now it's better to try and you know go follow the same path for everybody Yeah, uh Though though i'm pretty worried about the same path for everybody when actually everybody can install different plugins And could make you know situations very different But well, that's kind of the puzzle Yeah, I mean I think this is going to be the uh The longest standing debate that we'll ever have for chenkins essentials is do we allow additional plugins or not um Right now I'm not going to complicate the design thinking about it Yeah for people watching this afterwards or not Not deep into that we just kind of debate that Should be a low other plugin than essentials one Or should we allow that temporarily or not for now during a beta period period and so on and taylor is basically All for allowing everything right now And lens let's all buy the attempt I never said that So so later when I regret it, you'll pull this video back out of it exactly I told you Uh, so yeah, that's that's kind of what was happening last week. Um The stuff that's Batiste you're here most of the week this week, right? Um, not really, but I will be absent from tomorrow afternoon and To included um thursday morning just two days out Okay special setup setup this week. Okay. Um I was looking at the you know planned milestone And how these how these things always always typically work out you you learn more once you go into it. Um I think towards the end of the week Um and early into next week I really hoped at the beginning of of this project that we would have the full update cycle working um I don't know how realistic this is right now. Um, it sounds like the The things that stand between us and milestone one, um That a client help stuff. Have you implemented that batiste? Client what stuff health? um No, no Definitely notes because I think Uh, I think we discussed that some time ago. I think it was mostly on the error telemetry thing I think it's another story and I always not started yet Um, the client self checking. I had put that from some time ago, but it's kind of uh table down for now um Because right now we are setting up the error telemetry and basically we need to find a way to test things locally and finish the registering registration and uh Logging in like in local mode to be able to then test things and iterate which we don't have right now. I think And then we should be able to start Playing with that I tend to think um We could have a pretty simple version. Anyway, the health checking is Unproposed right now pretty simple. So it could be feasible pretty soon, but it's not started yet bottom line So the the reason that I ask is I'm thinking with what we have in In design right now and in various stages of implementation These are definitely must haves. So three 301 302 303 304 305 Must haves to do that milestone one But I don't think that this is needed to do the basic Um, I tend to disagree depends on well, because it's uh, if you look into the jep 306 You will see the relationship between that and the 30 And i'm not sure two. I think uh scroll In the very bottom, I think the relationship between uh No, no really bottom bottom bottom a reference. Okay, here's the algebra So basically we need that I think to be able to um coordinate updates Which is the thing you're working right now on And we definitely need Uh some form. I mean, yeah, we could for instance, they choose to implement only the Slash uh instance ID identity check for now For the house checking part of the update and rollback or not system For now and not, you know, consider the matrix you are all if possibly it can save us some time to just hit right then but If we don't consider the half of a given instance when we update then I think we are Really going to To take a big risk, isn't it fair or No, that's that's good reasoning to me Right, um So let me jump over to to the giras. Do we have that here? the Please I think I should possibly split or create other giras because yeah design jepp on the right Maybe there should be something either Then do that was that one or yeah implement something around that when and try to put relationships between giras and so on. Yeah Okay, I could do that Um Okay And I think there's uh, so if we need the Where did that go if we need this guy? Um, I think that's that's reasonable It sounds like the things that we We have uh to do to get to milestone one is error telemetry has to actually be delivered Um, the instance health checking has to work Um, we need a essentials yaml manifest with actual incremental commits Um that are in the the our incremental builds Um, the updates has to work And then I need to work on the infrastructure side to actually deliver You know deliver the back end to evergreen.jnkxio Am I missing anything that we need to have? in order to Um depends because 306 is actually kind of split There's is really only the client has checking and right now Even if it's in flight, there is no api right now yet defined to push the error logging to the server side Okay, and I suppose we need that to be able to push it somewhere That was something that you were going to take on wasn't it? Yeah, I think I will do that soon too. That's why I was going to say The 30 30 of 30 of april is still slightly ambitious, but well, yeah um So if if it's a question of just implementing the service site um Maybe at the end of the week if you still feel like you want to take that then that's fine Or you could just ask me to and I think I could probably do it in half a day Yeah, um, maybe I don't think actually that part is likely to be the most complicated Well, I'm I'm I'm I'm going to this is reported. So Yeah, I you will be able to tell me the contrary and I told you Yeah, I need to learn a bit more about feather feather gs But yeah once that it's kind of done once I should be able to move faster in that regard Okay, yeah So yeah Okay, are there from uh I see that oh like jumped on the call from from any of you other folks. Are there things that that We need to be considering for milestone one or things that you need unblocked I just asked a question chat about whether about, uh Tell me about subset of real five you consider mandatory for milestone one and whether you want that to be formally tracked on the sprint port a subset of Milestone one subset of three You're saying that you that you expected some of this to be up and running for milestone one I I'm really I really Feel like it's important for us to demonstrate that we can pull in some plug-in builds Um, even if it's just one like I know that that robo's been working on some of the quality stuff for the get plug-in um By the way, is there actually a list of plugins included yet? Uh Kind of I mean shouldn't some sort of initial okay The yeah, this is the list of record for now For now, I mean we're not delivering any plugins uh through updates right now So this list is going to get longer once I actually have an instance that's downloading this and actually getting started um What's missing from this and I I was starting to think about this over the weekend is These are sort of root-level dependencies and that's all fine and good But the thing that I need to actually deliver to an instance has to be the full list of dependencies as well um And so what good Yeah, I mean you can if you want to you can select the Um What the upper bounds of the transitive dependencies of things in this list But sooner or later you'll want to deploy some Little bug fix to one of those You know deep deep upstream plugins anyway, so I figure you might as well just list them all now anyway Yeah, by the way, how do you resolve dependencies now using? Uh docker scripts or using jenkin scripts? Uh right now neither Yeah, because uh You all set risk of forgetting into upper bound dependencies issues Right, especially when you have workflow aggregator in the bottom the The first sketch that I had in my mind was that on um When we that this file should be somewhat generated and when we generate this file That we're actually let's say, you know workflow aggregator for example When we generate this file we're going to the incrementals repository And considering the palm of that And then filling in whatever we need here um I don't know if that's a bad idea or not yet because they're They don't know about But I think it makes sense to have tools that You know propose bulk updates to that. Yeah Yeah In order to do that. Uh, so if you open current, uh, jenkin's docker image There is a pendant pull request which shows you a list of pending updates I have created it for a pretty similar case Yeah, another once we Sorry go ahead This guy once we have Generation of docker image you can uh, yeah, we can just get these scripts to do some reporting Actually, you can copy paste the implementation to essentials as well Where is this looking for updates? It downloads update center json for the lcs and then It checks the versions Yeah, that's not great That's not going to be very useful for Once we start using jeps 3 of 5 because those things For staging a repository. It's definitely something The gist of the problem here, um, and this this looks, um, actually quite useful for the docker plugin But the gist of the problem here is that We need to perform the duties of the update center effectively Um with the incrementals repository being considered um and so I I don't know I don't know how I'm going to solve this if anybody wants to take that problem off my plate I'd be happy to give it to them But I'll just I'll just mention and you can consider it or reject it but um, when when I've worked on Docker images they include a long list of plugins like this blue ocean and all of that other stuff Um, one thing that I found works is you can just have a dummy maven palm that basically declares I'll declare score and all of those plugins and whatnot as test dependencies and you mark it as a Plugin palm even though it's not a plugin. You're actually producing That automatically takes care of all of the upper bound dependency checking And you can also use the maven goal to forum versions display dependency updates And it will show you all outstanding updates based on Maven metadata, which would work transparently with incrementals repository also Interesting. Do you think after the call in in the chat or privately you could bounce me Point me to some of that. Yeah that could Yeah, I mean there's more stuff we need to do because There's some technical issues core depth being provided that maven doesn't rock very well and you'd also want to do like it like I was talking about the verification that a proposed release is actually in master branch and so on so that doesn't solve all of it, but some It's at least one approach. Okay you know um I'm making a note to make sure that there's a ticket for the um Dependencies in the yaml Um, okay I think there's certainly an ambitious weak role. Are there things that um That are coming up this week that you wanted to make sure we discussed and we see it one thing Which I don't think you're actually working on No, not really. I'm just finishing the quality audit for For git plugin, but I think that is not very critical And I even though I expect that to be finished before the milestone one. I mean Yes, let's take it to you Sorry Yeah, who has That is I think that is duplicated. I'm going to To take a look and remove the neighbor So basically what I need to finish for git plugin is to add calls to run pct and running ph The yanking files or any changes already tested and we can have a Complete example of developing flow for a kit plugin in essence. Yes. Sorry for a plugin in essence right Okay, cool And yeah to to the suggestion that batiste made in in the getter chat After this I think go through and aggressively prune out things that aren't necessary And make sure that some of the tickets that we discussed are filed appropriately And and to my question if you want some of the jep 305 stuff on the board, then we should have a Conversation about which things are Yeah, I'll let's talk about that afterward. I need to think about that more All right Anything else folks? Are we we wrapped for the week? I think that's fine I'm asking for me all right Thanks everybody all um So this is our first experiment using hangouts on air for this meeting. Um I think it works. The only problem is the url. Um, I I had updated the The meeting events in the jenkins calendar with the new hangout url and I'm guessing for for you Oh, like that didn't Uh show up properly. So I'm gonna try to find a better way to make this under Make it known what the uh, what the hangout on air url is before we start Yeah, I think because it takes like 24 hours. I had that issue long ago I think the issue is so that uh new url for you know propagations take like 24 hours And it's absolutely not configurable. So if we don't update really really, you know before the event Then it will be seen by anyone Right. Well my task after this meeting from now on is to set up the next week's meeting. Yeah, exactly I have six days at least Oh Bye. Bye everyone. See you later. Bye. Bye


Okay guys, this is the Yeba Ace K1. It's a brand new projector that was just released. This has been advertised as the best home cinema projector under $800. Take a look at the link down below to look at the latest pricing information and also an exclusive discount code for you guys so you can get this cheaper than everyone else. Let's take a look at the specifications quickly. This is native 1080p by design but it upscales the 4k absolutely fine and it has a very hi-fi loud 15 watts stereo speakers in built into this which is actually quite louder than I've seen in a lot of projector reviews. Now take a look at the screenshot on your screen now for the full list of the specifications of this projector. One of the things I really like about this is this brightness level at 650 ANSI lumens. This is the brightest projector I've ever reviewed and I've reviewed a lot of them. This is even brighter than a lot of the premium competitors out there and I'm super excited to see how this performs in both daylight and in darkness. You can see this has a contrast ratio of 1600 to 1 which really will make the colors pop and be more vibrant and it can go up to a maximum of 150 inches for the projection size. This does have bluetooth 5.0 so if you wanted to connect it to different devices such as a soundbar, headphones or anything else just to get you the full cinematic experience you can absolutely do that. This has wi-fi 6 and it is dual band so 2.4 and 5 gigahertz connections if you wanted to wirelessly connect to this maybe from your iphone your ipad or any other wireless devices then you can connect that very easily with very low latency. One of the key things I really look for in every projector review is autofocus and auto keystone correction which this does have and that goes a really long way for you to position your projector in pretty much any angle and elevation to make sure you get the perfect picture. Let's take a look at what's inside the box so in this brand kit envelope you get yourself the user manual and a warranty card. In the accessories box you get a microfiber cloth, a HDMI to HDMI cable, a 3-in-1 AV cable, the remote control and the power plug. Let's just take a quick look at the remote pretty standard buttons as you can expect this one in the middle here you've got a little instruction there if you press that for three seconds you can control the autofocus and auto keystone if you do want to do that and make any adjustments. It requires two AAA batteries which do not come included. Now this is the projector itself it's a very heavy-duty large design because it does pack in a lot of features into this it has this great fabric design at the top which I think is really nice it's got a lens cap cover there which you can just take off like this but the overall design on this is a full sealed optical engine technology that protects against dust and black spots so that you don't have any problems when you are watching this for very long periods of time over an extended length of time. So let's just take a look at some of the buttons and ports you have these touchscreen buttons at the top here so you've got the menu directional buttons the okay enter source menu and power at the back of the projector you've got your headphone port, AV port, two USB's and two HDMI's. I will be connecting one of the HDMI ports with my Apple TV to give you some sample demos and showcase how the video and audio quality is on this projector just remember if you are watching this video it's best heard using headphones yourself just so you can get an idea of how clear the audio is and just remember the video quality on how I see it in person will be slightly different to how you guys are seeing it on whichever device you're watching this YouTube video on so just bear that in mind but hopefully this gives you a very clear idea of the capability of the Yaba Ace K1 so let's go ahead and set this up check out the autofocus auto keystone run through the menu settings and go straight into the demos okay so I've powered up the projector this is the main screen and before I go into some of the settings and the options here I just wanted to test out the autofocus and auto keystone so as you can see if I move this around it will automatically go into the focusing and the keystone correction by itself without having to use the remote control if I just move it back it will try to do that itself and I think that's a very great option to have as well just in case you don't get it slightly angled correctly then you can keep repositioning it until it actually comes out the way you want it if it doesn't you can go into manual correction and just adjust it however you like I think this looks fine this is around 100 inches which for me is actually a very good size and it is very clear as you can see it's very daylit in this room as well but the brightness on this which I really want to keep highlighting the 650 ANSI lumens I think is doing a very great job most of the projectors I reviewed range from about 300 to 400 ANSI lumens and in daylight it's very dim and I can't really see too much of it this gives me comfortability knowing that I could actually watch something on this a tv show or a movie in daylight without having to worry about closing all of the light sources and closing all my shutters in the room to make it basically blackout which I think is absolutely great in terms of the fan noise there is quite a bit of fan noise coming from it it is quite a large projector that's something you'd have to just bear in mind but I would also recommend if you do connect this to a bluetooth speaker this will kind of drown out any of the fan noise that you might hear and it also depends on the distance of the projector from wherever you're watching it from but let's go ahead and play back some videos because these speakers on this are going to be loud enough that it will drown out pretty much all of the fan noise because they do pack a punch and you'll see that from the demo so let's go ahead and take a look at that but before we do that let's dive into more of the settings that you see on the main os built into the projector okay so from the home screen you can see there's four large options here for video music photo and office suite this is if you want to connect a usb then you can add some of these files office suite if you wanted to load some presentations and use this for business or in the office that's what you would use this for you have the option here to just kick in the autofocus and auto keystone correction right itself by selecting the button there you have your hdmi sources this does have ios cast and mirror cast so if you connect it to wi-fi you can very easily screen mirror and because of the wi-fi 6 in build to it it will be quite fast with a very low latency let's jump into the settings so you have six main settings here if you're going to wi-fi this is where you'll be able to connect to your wi-fi bluetooth connect to any external bluetooth devices projection you can change the projection mode so in case you wanted to ceiling mount this you can absolutely do that with these screws underneath the projector and you can change the positions of where you would like to position the projector itself automatic keystone i've set that to on manual keystone if you go into here you'll be able to correct that in the four keystone points yourself automatic focus is on as well as manual if you go into digital zoom you can actually zoom in if you want it to reduce or go in a little bit further for the size to match your projection screen and then you also have correction settings which you can use here to just adjust that focus and the keystone settings from that side if you're going to update this is where you can do an online update of the firmware of the projector if you're going to advance a bit more on the power options language settings and all those additional settings that you may or may not use and then finally about which is key information about the device so that's the os is very simple there's no inbuilt android tv or anything like that so i'm going to connect my apple tv to htmi one and jump in to the video and audio demos for you but i will also make it darkened in the room so i will close all my shutters make sure there's no light source coming in to give you guys the best quality on how that looks and at the end of the video i will open the shutters and just play some background videos with some light sources coming in in case you wanted to play anything during the daytime okay i've turned off all of the light sources it's very dark in the room and this is extremely bright so i've loaded up my apple tv let's jump into some demos that i've got from youtube okay you guys saw how clear that quality was the brightness on this just makes it so much more easier and clearer and sharper to see all the pictures and alongside that 1600 by one contrast ratio i can't find any faults with this this is very very clear and even though i have made it very dark in this i can still see it being very clear even if i did have some light sources coming into the room and one thing i did notice is when the video was playing back the music i was hearing it did drown out the fan noise completely so the fan noise did not become so much of an issue i just wanted you guys to hear how this potentially sounds when you are watching this with dialogue and sound effects with your tv shows and movies so i'm going to play this demo now and if you have some headphones make sure to put them in to get the best listening experience of how this projector sounds this is dolby cinema it's where the most advanced cinematic technology you've ever experienced begins this is dolby atmos the number of speakers around you no longer matters because this is the world's first object-based cinematic audio with powerful moving audio that transcends from channels to moving around you with 10-point accuracy whether the soundscape system will capture the full extent of nature's fury remember this it's just the beginning of dolby vision because what you thought was black isn't this is black this is contrast that reveals details deeper than any image you've seen on the screen this is luminance that means the difference between white and pure energy energy that is about to reveal an entire universe of color you've never experienced cinema so there you have it guys my final thoughts on this ultimately the 650-ouncey lumens of brightness is actually brighter than some of the more expensive competitors out there which actually makes this a really good option to replace the tv completely because this would look great in both daylight and darkness along with the 1600 and one contrast ratio it helps the colors pop and look more vibrant as you can even see in these clips here that i'm showing you on screen the sound quality from the set of 15 watt stereo speakers is more than enough for you to enjoy your tv shows and movies at decent volume levels i had it around 70 75 and it was more than loud enough to basically fill the room with really great audio and hi-fi speakers just to make sure it sounds exactly as you expect from getting a home cinematic type experience so ultimately is it value for money given all of the specs that this projector has and alongside my special discount coupon code for you guys in the description this for me is great value for money especially as a long-term home cinema or tv replacement setup if there's anything else you guys want to know or find out information about this projector drop a comment down below and i'll get back to you as soon as i can if you did like this video make sure to give it a thumbs up i review projectors all the time and i have a full playlist of my previous projector reviews which you can find down below make sure to subscribe i have new videos out every week which i'm sure you're going to like and i will catch you guys at the next one take care


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