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You can now follow me on all my social media platforms to find out who my latest guest will be and don't forget to click the subscribe button and the notifications bell so you are notified for when my next podcast goes live. I think it's going to be a bit of a breath of fresh air today to have a chat today and just two geysers down the pub kind of thing, you know?  So, Netflix documentary that's went everywhere, The Psychopath Live Coach. You don't see my bit of a psychopath, I've interviewed psychopaths. I believe there's at four different levels to being a psychopath. What was yours, anti-behavior? Anti-social personality disorder and that was the diagnosis and then you can label someone a psychopath based on that but a psychopath isn't actually a diagnosable term. It's got too much stigma to it, so it's more just a label like calling someone a psycho or, well, actually that's the exact same thing but calling somebody a monster or, you know, they're not mental health conditions but people label them. Watch the documentary. I love that. I enjoyed it. This is my kind of conversation.  You're no different. I'm no different. Everybody's, I believe, got a bit of psycho in them. Everybody's got a bit of narcissism in them. Everybody gets crazy from time to time but I believe everybody's also got a bit of goodness in them as well. Of course. Not many people admit it as well, I think that's half the problem. Like I said, you enjoyed that. You became a successful businessman. You listened to a lot of controversy around it which we'll touch on but first I always like to go back to the start of my guests and get a bit of an understanding about your loose, where you grew up, how it all began. Of course. Yeah, I mean, I've shared this story a lot. I mean, it's in the documentaries. I've done how deep you want to go. Stop me if I'm going on too much. But it started off with quite an abusive dad.   And then I created this identity that I was bad and unlovable. Didn't realize that at the time. Of course, no young kids are like, oh, I've got an internal void for significance and love. But I did create this identity that I was bad and then it was a self-fulfilling prophecy because then I did bad things and then that led to more labels and more people telling me I was bad. So it started there. He would be violent towards me every now and again. Not like he was beating me every day, but enough for me to be like, this is causing me some damage. And then because I wasn't getting the love at home, because also my mum was very emotionally detached, I decided I wanted to be famous, but didn't necessarily want to be famous for anything particular. Acting, singing, dancing, anything I could do. And my mum and dad would provide for me like that. We were brought up at a council estate just outside Watford in our Hertfordshire. But we weren't particularly poor and my mum and dad both worked. And they provided for me these acting, these singing, these dancing. It did look after me in that respect, just more of that emotional nurturing that wasn't there. And I did this acting, singing and dancing. It kind of gave me something. I enjoyed it. It was giving me that significance that I was looking for. And then come 11 years old, sexually abused. So that completely derailed that. And that was when I was going into secondary school. So I was like, it's another thing that's not working. Put that to bed. Had to create a new identity. Again, it's not something that you're cognitively aware of when you're 11 years old. Like, oh, it's time to start a new identity and fill this internal void. But that's what I did. In hindsight, I can look back at it and understand a little bit about my journey and how it unfolded that way.  And yeah, things just got progressively worse from there, really. How were you at school? Before the abuse? Obviously you were getting a beating from your dad. I was always naughty. Like even when I was in nursery, there was a take, come to see your child at nursery day. Apparently all the kids were sitting on the carpet and there was me in a Superman costume banging a drum.  I've always been very disruptive. I couldn't quite understand those behavioral norms and didn't respect authority. That's actually why I got expelled from school. It actually said refusing to accept the authority of staff. For some reason I couldn't quite grasp the level of I should listen to this person and I should respect this person. And it just didn't seem to register with me properly. Abuse from the father who should be loving, caring, nurturing. That's what you're going to do, because you weren't conditioned with those labels. You weren't born with those labels. It's the same as every bad man enters you, every gangster, every shooter, every drug lord, every bank robber. Everyone was bullied or abused, every single one. There's not one that's come on here with a loving family. Instead there's all the telltale signs of the abandonment. And abandonment's so crucial. I know you've got a newborn which will touch on same as myself, but it's that skin to skin.  Abandonment issues stem from then, the six years, seven years of the progress of a kid. Like from going through the bullying from your dad and the beatings, that ain't normal. That's going to scar you for life. And that then creates that character of misbehaving.  But it's the scars that leaves on the soul of not feeling good enough, not feeling important, not feeling loved as it meets the problem.  He was the psychopath. You're a father now, so you would know now not how could anybody hurt something so innocent and so pure. It's disgusting. But that was the way back then because of our own heads were flying back then.  Because I didn't know how, there was no self-control then.  Yeah, well, I know that he had a bad relationship with... I mean, he never really spoke about his family or anything really, but I know every now and again he would slip and he would tell me a bit of information. I know that his mum died at 16. I know he said he hated his dad. And I know that he cut off from all of his family. So he was... All I knew was my mum sided my family and my dad. So there's some trauma there that he's never shared. So I can understand that there's some sort of generational trauma that's sort of getting relayed down. So our responsibility now I guess to draw a line in the sand and kind of make sure that doesn't continue, you know? Hot people, hot people. Yeah, 100%. How bad were the beatings? I'd say they weren't that bad, you know? I don't know if I was conditioned to think they're normal, but it's not like he came in every day with an iron and smashed my head in or anything or about it. You know, normally it would be the verbal and stuff. But that hurt the most, to be honest. The one word that sticks out is the buffoon. I didn't even know what it meant at the time. I actually thought it was a baboon.  And the buffoon is like, I don't know, a jester. And, you know, I don't know, I still don't know now. But the way he used to say it is like, you are a buffoon. I just felt it. Yeah, that was the worst of everything. But yeah, it's still on top of me and hit me. But I always used to remember he used to just try to stop himself.  You know, he didn't want to hit me, but he just couldn't help it because he's an angry man, very angry. Like his veins would burst out of his head. He would just look like an exploding robot. I'm writing a book at the moment that I wrote in there. You know, he would remind me of an exploding robot. Like he would just, he'd have a short fuse and it'd just go, he's scary.  You know, I'm technically probably taller than him now. About six foot tall, big fat, you know, probably 18 and stone man. Looking up at that, it was, yeah, it was scary at the time. But the beatings weren't bad. I didn't walk away with any like significant bruises or broken bones or anything like that. But it was enough to cause me effect because the way I saw it was, because I remember I was getting older and I thought I can, I can then probably, I've got a chance here. I could probably do decent damage, but I can't. Like I feel frozen and I don't want to hit you because you're my dad and I love you. So why would I want to hit you? And then that made me think, well, if, if, if, if you're hitting me, then that must mean you can't love me.  And it just kept on reinforcing that further and further throughout my journey. What was the one thing you crave from your dad? Just love, really, when it all boils down to it. Do you know what love was? I don't think so now. It's not like I said, I want my dad to love me, but I was, I had, I call it like an internal void. There was something missing that I was looking for because I wasn't getting it from my mom or dad. Mom showed it to me. She would provide for me, but she wasn't from like an emotionally, I love you, let me give you a cuddle kind of background. My granddad was in the military and all that sort of thing. So that, that just era wasn't as lovey-dovey as it is now. So I didn't get it from mom, didn't get it from dad. So I just wasn't getting it. So I just didn't have any love in terms of feeling it. And there is an argument that maybe they were showing it to me or giving it to me, but maybe I didn't, I wasn't able to receive it due to this personality disorder. There's also always this conversation around nature and nurture.  But there is a possibility that they could have been loving me, but I just didn't know how to feel it. So as far as I'm concerned, there's something not in there that I need. And then I'm on this quest to find it. And that's where the, you know, the criminality came in because it kind of filled it to a certain extent. The abuse at 11 years old, I know it's a difficult one to talk about but it's important as well because it helps other people who's maybe men, we bottle it up the most. One in four people, one in four kids on this planet are sexually abused. One in four. And the majority of them don't speak about it. Yeah. And especially men. Yeah. Men are the ones who struggle the most. I had a man on yesterday, crazy Steve. I'm not the case. I'm in a prison, abused. Bosto at 11 years old.  That strength that then takes away the pain and gives you your energy back and gives you a, some sort of inner strength where they don't have that control over you. When did it start? It was only a one-off thing. I think I sort of devalued my story quite a lot because I've shared it quite a lot. And it's normal for me. It's my internal map. It's what I've lived through. So it doesn't seem as significant to me anymore but I started doing, I can't remember if I ever mentioned a minute ago, but because I wasn't getting this love at home, I had this internal void and I thought, ah, you know, maybe if I'm famous, I'll better get it. So I started doing this act and singing and dancing. Didn't particularly like any one of them. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't like I want to be an actor.  I want to be famous from the age of 10. Probably started at seven, actually. And for three or four years, I used to do these act and singing and dancing things as in plays. I did everything even as, I even did ballet and tap dance at one point. You saw in the documentary, right? This is kind of, because I've always had this extreme behavior. If I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it like in an extreme way. So I'm not just going to dance. I'll be a ballet, be a ballerina. And I went to this stage school and it was an older guy inviting me back to his house. I knew there was an age gap, but I just thought it was an older lad.  And I still don't know. And I still don't know what his intentions were, whether or not it was a one-off, whether or not he did it deliberately, whether or not he was just a gay lad. But to cut long story short, I went round his house, stayed around his house that night, was on a bunk bed. Was it his mum's house? How old was he? It's hard to say, but I would say probably I was 11. He was probably 18. I probably thought it was less though. I think I thought he was maybe 15. He was like the cool, older kid that was smoking weed. And I was like, oh yeah, cool. Anyway, who knows how old he was. You really can't tell, can you really? Especially at that age, you know, the perception of age is difficult to tell. But I was, I don't know how this happened, but we was watching TV and I'd sort of dangled, I was on the top bed and I sort of dangled my arm over the bunk bed and then he grabbed my hand.  But you're frozen. You can't pull your hand away. So I just left it there.  I'm still holding this guy's hand. I just escalated to the point where the next thing you know, he's creeping up the top bunk.  And then I remember when my dad used to hit me, I used to freeze, you know, you've heard of it fight, flight or freeze, right? And also in school, I was very lairy, very cocky. I had this sort of, you know, mentality of I don't care, but I didn't really have the courage to fight back because of I think my dad hit me and not been able to hit him back.  So I was used to sort of freezing in that environment. And he, yeah, he came up in the top bunk, jumped onto, not jumped, but just got on top of me and start kissing the side of my face and the side of my neck and I just froze stiff.  Now somewhere along that line, I still to this day don't know why I did it, whether it was a survival mechanism, whether I thought it'd make it go quicker, whether or not I don't know, but at some point during that, it's probably like 15 minutes in though, by the way, of being completely frozen. I decided I must have made a decision I'm going to participate. So I ended up going through with it. And I think a lot of people that have experienced that will probably relate to that and go, oh, that's just what happens. And then that's what brings up all the crazy questions after. Did I just instigate that? Did he know that's what was going to happen when I came around his house?  Am I gay? All these questions and then it's just shut down.  And to be honest, I didn't tell anyone about it and I didn't even feel that bad about it.  I've been raped or whatever, which I hadn't been by the way. I didn't go that far. It was everything else I've ever done that. I kind of just buried it to the point where I didn't really feel it and it didn't really affect me in a conscious awareness sort of point of view. Of course, subconsciously, it was affecting me more than I was aware of. Do you think that's because you're so used to blocking trauma out? It was just another form of trauma where you've been used, you've been abused.  I guess so. You know, I just didn't have any awareness around myself back then.  I didn't know what my problems were. I didn't know what my traumas were. I didn't know I was traumatised. I didn't know these things were bad things. I thought it was life. You know, I thought all parents must be like that. And I thought maybe those things happened from time to time or whatever. So, yeah, I didn't process it. I didn't understand it. And it was what it was. When did you start drinking? I mean, from an early age of probably 11, 12 down the park, you know, with your bottles of cider and all that sort of stuff, I obviously loved that. But that wasn't a problem. It was only when I was getting to about 16 or 17 that I used to find myself drinking a lot and getting drunk. But by 17, I was drinking like vodka, a lot of it, blacking out. And that was when it was becoming a problem and I was becoming violent as well. When does it kick in when you're the one, when the abuser, the one who's getting abused then becomes the abuser? Yeah. When did that happen? When was that switch? So, a few things happen along that journey. I kind of got an ASBO. I got expelled from school. I got involved with crime. I went into a young offenders' institution. And it was around that sort of time, the young offenders' institution. And also this time I got jumped by a group of lads because I remember I used to tell you, you got jumped.   I saw it. I kind of liked it. I don't know. Kind of liked the idea of, whatever, do what you want to me. It doesn't bother me. Daddy, too, even fight back. But there was this one guy that jumped me and then I found, I saw him in a nightclub. And I went up to him and I didn't even mean to punch him. But my arm just came up and just hit him in the face. It was randomly. It was just involuntary. I don't know if it was because I subconsciously wanted to do it or just ready to do it or I don't know if it was impulse. Punched him in the face. We went into a fight. I won the fight.  And same with prison. Same with young offenders' institution. An environment where I had to fight it and had to, you know, not be a target and be vulnerable. So around about 18 years old I started to learn to fight and realize I was powerful. This whole time I felt powerless, you know. I was frozen. These things were happening to me. There's nothing I could do about it. I was quite small. But I had this growth spurt where I became six foot two.  But I typically did quite good in fights. I don't know why. Long arms or something. I don't know. But I'd win.  I felt great. And I also liked the reputation that came with that. I liked people sent to you what Lewis did last night. Lewis did that. Lewis did that. And that kind of gave me some form of significance. Some form of love in a way. It obviously wasn't love but it was the closest thing that I could experience to it. And it's not like I was going, if I punched a skizer I'm going to feel loved. But it was like, oh, I feel better. And we all do things that make us feel better. That's why we reach for, you know, external substances or whatever it might be. Anything that makes us feel better we want to do more of.  So for me, I believe I've become addicted to fighting like it was something that a craved looked for. It's not like I was going out looking for people to attack. Well, actually, in a sense, I guess I did, but I was doing it at nightclubs and things like that. It's not like I was going for the street, looking for an old lady or something like that.  And I enjoyed it. That's the truth at the time because it just made me feel a little bit more complete. Did you feel as if you were getting some sort of power back?  Yeah, I did. When did you end up in the YOs? What age? 18 and 19. What was that for? Stolar van. Well, I found a car key on the floor, pressed a button and it beep, so I put it in my pocket and then got drunk and then I remember that I had it and then went down and got the car and then didn't even had a driver and ended up managing to sort of figure it out. Got caught by the police, had some weed on me and then went to Young Avengers for three months. What was that? It's interesting because it was Wood Hill and it was a double A cat. I went to 2A and it was full of people that had done serious crimes. Yeah, why are you in double A cat with a lot of those? Yeah, yeah. It's because it was the closest one to where I lived at the time and it was like they put you there and then they re-categorize you or whatever, but they put me there for the first month or whatever. And mate, there was people that were in there for... Yeah, there was this one guy that was at the top of the wing that I thought that I was getting on with, actually. He played pool with him, had showers with him. He was 18 years old from Wales, used to be in there for killing a couple of geysers and that was a good thing at the time, you know.  And then Googled his name when I got out, it turns out that he was homeless and some old lady who had just retired from doing like 50 years as a midwife, said, come on in, I'll look after you tonight. And in the middle of the night he tried to burgle her house and while she caught him, so he stabbed her 30 times to death. You know, that was the kind of people I was knocking around with. And also, do you remember back in the day there was those three lads from Liverpool who kicked some old man's head in through his helmet for a fiver? Not sure. Yeah, that was in the baby. They were in there. Some horrible people in there.  And then when I'm going into jail, I'm now bottom of the pecking order and people are saying, what are you in for? I'm like, I'm stealing a van. And they're like, oh, I'm in it for murder. And I'm like, I want to be in it for murder.  I don't think I said I wanted to be in there for murder but I definitely thought I want something a little bit more significant so I can come in there and be a bit more proud of my charges.  And when I came out of prison, that was in the back of my mind but also I've been given the worst punishment society had to offer and I didn't mind it. People with personality disorders, whether I have one or not, they don't really respond to punishment well, for some reason. That's why 80% of the prison population have personality disorders because for whatever reason, they don't learn from their mistakes. And 80% of the prison population come from a broken home. Yeah, yeah. And that probably creates a personality disorder. The kids aren't born with these sort of these labels. I believe anyway, it's pure. They're souls. They're just bundles of joy that can be conditioned and programmed to be spectacular in life with the right love, right guidance.  Especially back then. I mean it's only now that we're sort of opening our minds up to personal development and the ways that we can learn about ourselves and our emotions. But when even I was growing up and I'm not particularly, you know, I'm still young, you know, just wasn't in the curriculum, was it? It's still isn't now. I mean that's a whole conversation I'd like to talk about at some point but I think the schooling system is absolutely broken. Like it teaches us, you know, algebra and photosynthesis and it's a pathway that will give you an option to get a job that will, you know, feed these large corporations that are all connected to the government but it doesn't teach you about yourself and your mission and who you are and your why and your values and your emotions and what you really want to do with your life. And it's just a huge gap for people to understand themselves better and have better awareness because if I had awareness around what was going on for me, I could have dealt with it but I didn't even know what was going on. So how can you do with something you don't understand? Yeah, the schooling system I create soldiers to work for the big corporations and not create an individual if you think it's spirit-minded where you just see the world for yourself make your own mistakes learn from them. But again, I think a lot of people are waking up but then I start a lot of people dumbed down there's only 3% in this world to goalset 3% 3% and writing stuff down in goals is so important for chasing your dreams or whatever you want to do in life if you're not then you become lost it's called spelling for a reason you're writing spells in the universe so people need to be careful what they're putting out there and if you're full of drinking drugs you're putting out the negative thoughts you're putting out the negative vibes and again you're just going to keep attracting that when did you get labeled with being a psychopath? yeah true so after I came out of jail I started to commit like violent offenses did you want to be could you have potentially done murders just to fit in with those guys who were doing them with that mindset? I don't think because it wasn't like I want to go and commit a bigger crime all on its own that was in the back of my mind it was like if I go back in so what? yeah it'd be cool to go back in for a bigger one because my belief system was warped because when you spend time with thousands of people and the first thing they say to you is what you're in for it doesn't take long before that is you you know so that was in the back of my mind but not something I was consciously aware of that with the addiction to violence and also this significance that I was getting through this sort of reputation and also winning a fight made me feel great and also the drinking drug abuse escalating to the point where I was blacking out and losing control of myself and I had all this deep root of trauma and as they say like a drunk man's actions or a sober man's feelings or whatever the expression is but I think I was always an angry violent person inside you to things that happened to me or however you'd want to phrase it and when I was under the influence of drinking drugs that was my outlet to just let it out to unleash it and it's difficult to unleash it in constructive ways when you don't know what they are when you're younger and I would either take it out on myself or take it out on other people and it wasn't always other people it was sometimes myself you know I've talked in a minute about a time where I tried to commit suicide but I've actually tried to commit suicide many times in sort of abstract ways ways that I should have died but I didn't there's only one time where I actually attempted to do it but there's other times where it was hit and miss whether or not that would have happened or not yeah but just more of a reckless kind of I don't give a shit like a self-sabotage I don't care about myself I just didn't love myself I didn't care about myself therefore you know if you don't care about someone then you don't care if they die and that was why I felt about myself but the psychopath thing so I managed to managed so I hit someone with a bottle and I gave them a brain hemorrhage and luckily I didn't get remanded I just you know obviously sensitive sadness but just to be honest the only reason I don't know I got remanded is I always used to put a suit on slick my hair and I looked like a just white guy from the village because I was from Kings Langley outside Watford so I can you know I can look the part and I always used to work in my favor I think because at one point I had five GBHs as different offenses and there's people that would have gone on remand for one of those so I don't know how I did it but I went for a pre-sentence report to see what I was going to get sentenced for and I went to probation and she said she actually wrote in there because I've read it Lewis is going to kill someone one day and she recommended me for an IPP I'm sure you've heard of that since you've been doing these podcasts but indefinite public protection order it's been abolished since because it's just in humane I mean Charles Bronson is still in there doing a 50 year based off of it so people are still on licence with them they can't they're trying to overturn them people who are out now there's even though people aren't getting them but the ones who have got them have still got them so they're not took away yet so I know people are getting put back to prison because they are IPP people aren't getting out still because they're on IPP people get four or five years they're then doing 18 and 20 years and it's because I guess my crimes didn't really fit that sentence because they weren't as severe but the potential of my mindset and the way that I was reacting to things and the escalation of my crimes and how quickly they were escalating because I'd also like the other GBHs I'll stamp on people's heads and break in their jaws and cheekbones and nose and stuff like that so it was like pretty much going over the top and then police tried to arrest me and then I'd fight the police and it just looked insane and I did look like I was about to kill someone and maybe I would have so she did the pre-sentence report she absolutely hated me well that's what I thought but actually quite rightly probably just said some negative things because I was a negative guy she sent me for a psychiatric assessment and I just thought it was part of the process but it wasn't and went to actually where was it? No I did go to St. Albans Albany Lodge that was when I got a section of the Mental Health Act that's another story but anyway I did a psychiatric assessment Dr. Sadler that was his name and he wrote this big report and it came back with this anti-social personality disorder and at the time obviously I'd never heard of it and I googled it and it said psychopath and like I mentioned earlier you can have personality disorder as various different ones there isn't necessarily a meaner or psychopath but it means that you're on this spectrum and some of those people can be labeled a psychopath and psychopaths even in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing it's interesting you know this is something I really want to break the stigma on because I think there's a lot of it's a big marginalised part of society especially in the the prison system 80% of the prison system have personality disorders and they inherently think they're bad and evil and they can never change and that's because they just don't understand that they have a mental condition but they don't understand the positives with every sort of negative there's a positive now they might not be emotionally tuned they might not have much empathy but they might be not risk adverse and they can take risks that other people aren't prepared to do they might be very assertive they might be decision makers they might be very strategic and that's why a lot of people get into crime because they have the ability to put themselves in situations that other people won't but if they were to understand these superpowers they could channel them obviously into entrepreneurship and things like that and have a place in society but anyway when you get labeled as a psychopath of course there's a stigma to it because everyone thinks a psychopath is a serial killer alright but you can be a serial killer if you're a psychopath because you are more prone to violence you are you're not risk adverse so doing those sorts of things you're impulsive there's various different traits of it I have to have a little look up again but overall it would make a good serial killer which is why they've become one most people that don't have these conditions couldn't bear the thought of doing things like that you know but there are also good psychopaths and there are also hidden psychopaths there are psychopaths in business leadership like there are probably arguments to say like I don't know Elon Musk or you know all of these you look at Michael Jordan you look at Tiger Woods make Michael Phelps their training their exercise their sacrifice to be the best their psychotic behaviour there's a thin line between success and psychopath I believe a lot of successful people are psychopaths yeah because you have to be you can tell with their mannerisms and the way they talk the way they think but they've used it in a positive and like yours says just because you're a psychopath it doesn't mean you're bad majority of people end up turning bad because there's not cut off your emotions where apparently you don't feel anything is that one of the factors of being a psychopath? I mean it's on a spectrum so your empaths which are people that feel so so much they actually consume other people's energy and feelings and that's even more debilitating in my mind because you can't even have a conversation with someone without crying and then you carry it the days after so that's one end of the spectrum the middle ground is someone that just naturally feels their emotions expresses them releases them, moves forward and it's all brilliant and they have this range this rainbow colour of emotions getting towards this sort of psychopath end your emotions become very limited and they're very numb they're very shallow so you're going to feel things but it's only if something serious happens if someone dies you're going to feel something if you split up with a relationship you're going to feel something but on a day to day basis general things probably won't phase you much like for example whether this is a product of psychopathy or whether it's a product of my environment someone can tell me a story it could be as deep and as dark as you could possibly imagine and it just won't really register with me this doesn't really affect me it's not like I don't have empathy for them on a logical level like I can sit there and understand I want to help them and understand they're going through a tough time but it's more cognitive I don't have this pain inside me or this heaviness this feeling of dread and empathy from a felt sense point of view and then you've got right at the end of psychopathy which are people that feel nothing and they also get thrills out of hurting people and those are the syroculars because they have a drive to do that now I'm nowhere near that end and I would admit that I'm on the spectrum I don't know where it comes from Nature vs. Nurture Jeff Beattie in the documentary says it's probably a combination of the both you could probably have a genetic factor but if you're brought up in a loving environment you learn to move through those traits and you learn to understand it to the point where you can actually nurture those that small flicker of emotion that you've got you can, you know, turn it into a throw fuel on the fire and turn it into something much greater but if you have a shallow set of emotions genetically and then you then suppress them down even further of course you're left with not much so I would say that I'm on there but I've used it to my advantage because, you know, if you can't see then you can hear better if you can't hear you can see better and I think that because I am less emotional not emotionally less but less emotional I'm able to strategically see better so I can see things that people can't see I can break things up in my mind that other people can't do I can map out plans I can see the future sounds a little bit out there but, you know, I have a vision for the future I can predict the way that things are going to go and I see sequential sets of things and I speak to other people and they don't have that so I don't really know what some of these emotions are that people feel but I know that I have the way of thinking that I know that other people don't think like so it's just harnessing the one that's going to help If someone's at the top end of the spectrum of being a psychopath can they change that method of thinking of trying to then start to feel or they're just totally gone I think the people that are right on that end I don't think so I think they are born that way there is actually no cure for personality disorders you can only learn to No, those ones you possibly I'm not sure Yeah, that one's a little bit more complicated it's just different, that one but personality disorder specifically there's like borderline personality disorder emotionally unstable personality disorder antisocial personality disorder they're all labels and they're all just some guy or woman that's gone this set of symptoms roughly means of this but we're all unique so it's difficult to really say but the people that are out psychopaths that feel nothing at all and get a thrill for hurting people are they curable I'd like to think they are but personally I think they're a bit too far gone there's something totally disconnected from that there's something in their brain that's not there just because you call someone it doesn't mean you know say go pathway their kids have been abused and they went round with their knife for me they're a hero that's my method of thinking but then people might call me a psychopath or a green with murder but there's different levels of life how you think, how you feel and everyone in my guest would be labeled a fucking psychopath if they were to go through a test but the majority of my guests are like in love, I speak to her very and always keeping in touch there's people that are in the military for example that go out there and fight for the country and our freedom and they might have to kill a few people in the process and then shut off and get back to work the next day and that is their psychopathy or is there a personality that's allowing them to be able to disconnect and see the bigger picture and there's also politicians that have been able to drive us to winning wars by being able to look at should we drop a bomb here and kill 200,000 people should we drop a bomb here and kill 300,000 people this one makes more sense oh my god but what about the other 100,000 so they have a place in society that doesn't mean they're necessarily bad and also people do things not because they have no emotions but because of circumstances like you said, if someone's hurt your child you're not doing it because you know that you can get away with it without feeling any guilt or remorse or shame you're doing it because you want to do it and you feel that you need to do it to protect somebody and they probably have a lot of trauma and guilt and things they have to work through to be able to process what they've done whereas a psychopath for example could probably do that and not care that's the difference, they could go and kill somebody because it's the right thing to do and be a good psychopath but then actually not care about it after what were you doing for money back then selling drugs were you a drug dealer? methadone actually meow meow meow don't know if you remember that smells like piss what was that, speed? no it was a plant fertilizer so it was a legal hire at first I know someone that used to get it shipped on a black market and like fucking fish tanks I used to get it from Scotland actually I'm a Nordic guy then and I thought I think they paid 100 quid, 200 quid then but we were selling it for like 2 or 3 grand it was mega money it was legal when I was selling it I made leaflets, I used to give them out round the pubs and then it went legal when everyone shipped themself but you know, someone like myself whether it's the condition or whether it's just me mcat, why not? yeah yeah yeah it was like shards of glass shards of glass, it fucking hurt your nose but it was stronger than coke, it was cheaper than coke and you didn't have really a come down for 2 or 3 days so like with coke, when the birds come out you're like oh my god I don't like shit but with that you're like hey shops are open, let's go and get another bottle of vodka so it was just a next level drug but yeah and then I moved into selling coke after that as well and I had a line and then I had a few people working for me I was no big time gangster, I don't want people to think I was but on a small scale people worked for me, I sold drugs I was violent, I was in that scene but it will wait a billion and one people above me in the pecking order were you telling people you were a psychopath? no I didn't even, do you know when I got that diagnosis I just brushed it off because I thought oh look, Mr Goody 2 shoes thinks that I've had a couple of fights because I've been out on the piss and he thinks I'm a psycho I didn't think anything of it, it was only later on in life where actually I turned my life around the symptomatic behaviour was no longer there but yet some of the traits that were in this diagnosis were still apparent so I thought actually it's interesting because I do feel different and I do feel these things and I started to notice a difference between me and most people that was something that was obvious I just didn't quite get a lot of other people I was confused at how they reacted to things and that got me thinking that I am different you know and I know that a lot of people feel that they are different but specifically in certain aspects especially emotions I just kind of got a lot very confused and then that made me look back at the diagnosis and go actually I take every fucking box on there when did you go to rehab? so... I was 18 I got pissed up on Jack Daniels this was when I was starting to get a bit aggressive but not violent drunk and then I was having an argument with a girlfriend at the time and when I first got this girlfriend actually I was 17 and she filled that void that I felt because my family had written me off at this point they said you are not part of the family anymore because you are affecting your younger brother I even had him selling drugs for me and he was 15 years old they said we don't want anything to do with him anymore so I felt I hated it at the time because again I didn't understand feelings or anything so I just felt I guess something and then had a...    I tried to hit it from a different point of view where I didn't tell people what to do and I just shared what I had went through so I took it from an eye point of view rather than a new point of view people don't like to be told what to do I was telling everybody don't drink, don't drink fucking mugs, gambling, alcohol and people are saying he's just a fucking pest some people would have got a lot from it but I think it's much better for people to have conversations in their own epiphanies and learn from your story you hear your experience and they go maybe I should give up drinking that's way more empowering because it's something they've decided to do and a choice they've made for themselves someone tells you to do that I remember my dad came into my room once when I was young kid and he went and I was actually starting to tidy my room up and he came up and he went tidy your fucking room and the moment he did that I went I'm not gonna tidy my fucking room anymore I don't have to do anyway and I'm gonna be like fuck you, don't tell me what to do so it's much more important to empower people to allow them to make that choice for themselves because then they feel like it's something good that they've chosen to do but yeah preach, I mean we learn those things but preaching is still good because you're still educating and there will be still some people that need to hear that on that day so it's a good start but yeah I help people for free I got amazing results that's what I was really burned away by good at it obviously got a lot of experience in it and coupled that with traditional tools techniques, models and frameworks that have been around in the coaching industry for decades and started using these models and things that I'd learn and stuff like that but I just got it because I'd been there people would share their stories and I'd be like ah yeah I remember that one and let me share something with you that I had experienced and also because I had such a damaged background that's probably not the right way of doing it but in the background people felt very safe around me that they wouldn't be judged because they thought fuck it now this guy's not going to judge me because I've done nothing about what he's done so it allowed people to open up to me in a way that they'd never been able to open up to people before and that was really helpful and I was the I started doing some local networking meetings in Portsmouth and I met up with about four people and I had a coffee and you know one of them was like an Excel spreadsheet woman and one of them was something else and I thought I'm never going to make any money here and I started doing Facebook groups and the online social media stuff and this was before it was really a thing you know I started doing my coaching sessions on Facebook video call before Zoom was even a thing and I grew a six figure business quick seven months took and then I moved into sort of digital products courses, membership sites hiring team members and just reinvesting everything like everything I earned I put back in I took modest amounts of money I lived a good life but I never took big chunks of businesses or cars I'd travelled, Bali yeah lived off enough money to live but just put everything into reinvesting into staff and technology and to make the business bigger and better and yeah we've been five years it was about 25 million dollars It's unbelievable, fair play I know you've done a few interviews and people are giving you shit and stick but I have nothing but respect for you for making those changes for who you are I don't know if your story is a hundred percent I don't know but I can only judge from who sits across from me I don't pass judgment on their story but I can make an assumption of you know what you guys fucking made these mistakes he's learnt from me because I know what it's like to make change it's the strongest people on the planet to then put their hands up and go I need help that's the strongest form for me on this planet it's not sitting on a pub or sitting taking gear I write negative comments that's a weak link that's somebody who's battling themself and lost instead of going you know what somebody else's story just why do you need to write a negative comment you can watch something and go you can say I don't like that guy I don't like that but it's the vileness that comes from people when you think how broken are you yeah it's their own limit and beliefs it's their own insecurities people have criticised me for exploiting people just because I've been successful in business they'll have a moment at me when I'm a criminal and I'll have a moment at me when I'm successful you can't win against certain people they say they think I'm exploiting people because I've made a lot of money but what they don't realise is a lot of that's in asset value it's in the company it's in the business that's helping change the world it's not my fucking bank you know that stacks and stacks of cash it's sort of like I'm living in the fucking mansion or whatever and I give back to charity you know I can't put in a documentary all this stuff about all the charitable work I'm doing because it's just going to look like you know people have already criticised it for being a promotional piece I don't quite know why I would put myself as a psychopath and put you know people calling me a cult leader in there as a promotional piece but there is elements obviously that highlight some of the good that I'm doing but I do lots of charity stuff it's actually a compulsory part of our organisation that every single person that works for us has to do charity work every month because I feel like we should give back like there's an element of I don't want to be perceived as that person and I know you know I'm just I'm just roofily honest I know that I have to balance it out if I'm going to make money I also need to give back because it needs to we have to be a business that has balance but also we can give back so why shouldn't we our mission is about our tagline is coach your way to freedom to be able to think, say or do whatever you want without hindrance or restraint to be able to build a business where you can work from wherever you want create freedom for people in the coaching but also outside and we've done some amazing work if you go to our website and people don't look at this stuff but if you go to our website go to about this whole section of charity and there's dozens of videos of charities we've done all over the world from tree planting to orphanages to things like that yesterday I was in HMP the Mount Prison I was doing a talk to the prisoners to help them create a life of freedom after they released that was a prison that I was released from eight years ago I've been a lot of good in the world and I've helped change I mean I spoke about the documentary but I've qualified now eight thousand coaches so they are now qualified and accredited coaches that then start their own business that then will then have thousands of clients over their lifetime and the people that they coach will then be in a better place better energy less toxic to be able to support the people around them and then their generations as well so the ripple effect is fucking unbelievable when you think about millions tabloids, media talk TV, fucking news bollocks they look at all the negatives and they go how can we drag that out the guy that interviewed me and started saying all that stuff and hadn't even watched the documentary I mean how can you criticize someone if you don't even know who you're talking to and what it's about there's always going to be a bit of hate and there'll be more to come I just mean you're doing something right yeah I don't fucking deserve a better abuse Peter Fay was fucking nonsense but it's a bit different so you've bought out a business 25 million what is the business, how can people get involved what does it actually do if people wanted live coaching, what's the steps and process how much is that yeah so the main thing we do now is we help we look to how we make the biggest impact and we could have done that one to one with coaching but there's only so much you can do with your time plus we'd rather create an army of coaches that go out and help other people so what we do is we train coaches so we are accredited by the ICF and we are the training providers that provide people with the tools, the techniques the models and the frameworks to be able to actually coach other people so if you want to become a live coach it doesn't have to be a live coach, be a confidence coach mindset coach, business coach whatever you come to us and we give you all the training you need to be able to do that it starts off from $9.99 a month on a membership and then it progresses to more live and advanced courses things with workshop facilitators virtual reality and all that sort of stuff as an upgrade but you can get started from $9.99 and that's why when people say I'm exploiting people I think it's eight pound a month and this is even a 14 day money back guarantee you know how can that be exploiting people it's like try it out for eight quick if you don't like it cancel it I'm not forcing you to give me your life savings your life savings, your wages taking everything off and loving this what sort of stuff are you promoting though is it for people who are struggling or for people who are actually, what is that? we attract people that have had, this is another thing that we are um targeting vulnerable people and this was in the documentary for a start it's impossible to do that I don't know if you personally know anything about advertising on social media, you cannot target vulnerable people you can't even target certain demographics or income brackets or marriage you used to be able to do things like that you can't do anymore you can't even say certain things you can't target specific people there's no way in how you could say can you target people that have recently had someone die in there it's just, can't do it but we do attract quite a lot of you could perceive them as a vulnerable people if you perceive them as a vulnerable person I see them as someone who has been through some trauma in their life and who am I to say no no no, you can't come in, you can't be a coach because you've had bad stuff happen in your life and you could be deemed vulnerable I was vulnerable but I've been able to turn into a power to talk all the time about turning adversity into an asset and these people have had adversity in their life and yes, some of them have had bereavement some people have had trauma, some people have been sexually abused and that is the very reason why they want to become a life coach because they've got through it and they're now passionate about sharing that message and there are a lot of people that come to us to become a life coach that doesn't mean to say we're going hey, who's been sexually abused alright, okay, gives you a credit card you know, it's a case that they've heard my story they've resonated and connected with it and they're like this is something that I want to do and some of those people do have those symptoms but I don't personally think that's vulnerable and I think that's rude to call those people vulnerable they have their own will, they have their own ability to make decisions and it's no different from them going to get into a degree and spending 40 grand on a piece of paper where they might get a job at the end of it at 30 grand a year ours is quicker, more effective and more effective in today's market so if anything we want to be looking at centralized education and government for the people that are to point the blame at for targeting vulnerable people using the messaging of you can change your life by going to this university and spending four years on a degree and getting 100 grand in debt for a job you probably won't get or the people that are advertising the Royal Navy you can't change your life in the Royal Navy they don't mention about the fact that you might get killed so PTSD what makes a good life coach? someone that understands and that's going to be interesting coming from me someone that says they've got shallow emotions because you can be on different ends of the spectrum some people can feel more and they're more intuitive and they can more get a sense of where someone's at some people can literally break people's brain apart from the language they're giving and the stories they're sharing they can draw conclusions and ask the right questions they're the only that leads them into a part of their brain that they haven't accessed before that's kind of the approach that I would take but to summarize understanding people well if you understand people well and you understand what they're going through whether that's from personal lived experience or that's from education or that's using the right tools and techniques you don't have to have gone to prison gone through trauma to be a life coach you can learn these tools and models to be able to extract the potential from an individual there's this big misconception in the life coaching industry that a coach is a mentor is someone that gives advice that's helpful and that can be an angle that you use from time to time but actually a coach is someone that asks challenging and thought provoking questions that allows the client to uncover the answer for themselves a little bit like what I was talking about earlier with the empowerment piece we want to empower people to ask them questions and then go I know what I need to do or I know what I want to do or I know how to get over this so understanding people fully and knowing what questions to ask at the right time to allow the client to uncover the answers themselves and get results how did the Netflix documentary come about a combination of things really there was lots of people involved from the production to directing to writing to filming I'm obviously very entrepreneurial I was the one that wanted that to happen so of course I had an influence in trying to pull that together and speak to the right people and make sure that happened it wasn't like Netflix said hey we want to do a documentary on you let's commission it, let's give you a load of money I had an influence this is my story I've got a message to share but yeah it was just a piece of content that I wanted to get made I was impartial to it it was edited out of my control I didn't know what questions were asked on the interviews obviously I said what I wanted to say I did have an involvement in some of the edits but I wanted it balanced I wanted it to be fair I wanted it to be true raw and authentic and if the producers wanted me to have a certain thing in there even if it wasn't favourable I was like cool do what you think because yeah I want people to make their own opinion up on me I don't want to create a narrative where it's like this is me because no one wants to watch that shit anyway it needs to be a bit gritty but I wanted it to be balanced enough where people can make a decision and not give enough information away to the point where I give people answers we're living in an age right now where people are starting to understand themselves more than ever and come out about themselves whether it's fact they're gay or bi or whether the fact that it's they're understanding more about their mind that they're ADHD or dyslexia and convergence and neurodiversity is a big thing and you know psychopathy for example or at least personality disorders is something that she's not spoken about and can you imagine if people could speak about it get awareness around it and go fuck that's what I've been living with and be able to channel that out of destructive behaviours and maybe get out of prison for example and start channeling it into something that might help them thrive and help make society a better place so I wanted to spark a conversation around that and by giving the answers too heavily it wouldn't have sparked a conversation but I'm hoping people start talking out more about is Louis a psycho, was he a psycho has he learned to channel that psycho behaviour am I a psycho is psycho even a bad thing because it's probably one of the only mental disorders that's not spoken about and doesn't have this kind of woke mentality about it I mean you can call someone a psycho all day long even that guy in the interview he said I'd rather do that than take advice from a psychopath imagine if I said I'd rather do that than take advice from someone with bipolar he'd be cancelled like that wouldn't he what's the difference so yeah I had an involvement and um but there was a big team on it you know how's it been for the career is it positive or a negative I mean it's only new that was fun and then launched on Netflix went into top 10 so amazing it was 8, it beat the Grinch no it was 7th I think 7th for 8th, beat the Grinch happy about that, fuck you Jim Carrey I'm joking only because it's November to be fair if it was December I'd have had a chance of beating the Grinch but top 10 so I was amazed by that thousands of messages all positive people saying that it's like the first time they've ever related to someone before you know so proud of me being able to share the vulnerabilities, similar stories you know you would get the exact same thing but people don't talk out about this enough and I think they were quite surprised about how honest I was and it gave them the hope that they can be honest about what's going on for them because a lot of people hold it in shame and obviously that doesn't help anybody and it's been good, yeah it's brought in customers brilliant, it's brought in some publicity brilliant, it's brought in some negative publicity so what, also brilliant and I think this is just the start now so I'm looking forward to seeing what comes from it and keep sharing that message and inspiring people and hopefully changing the perspective of people's identity which is ultimately what this comes down to it's how they see themselves I saw myself as a bad unlovable kid and eventually a psychopath if you think that you're going to act like that and you're going to be that and the reality is I'm not bad I'm lovable and it might be a bit of a psycho but it's not always the worst thing How has it been a father with a newborn did you have all the old negative traits because did you have a worry that you could have potentially been the same as your own dad no disrespect to your dad but you know what I'm talking about I didn't have, no I never thought I would be like my dad because I would make a conscious effort to do the complete opposite I had a bit of a fear that I wouldn't bond, connect as much as I wanted to and I was really desperate to cry when the baby was born because I thought if I don't then I'm really fucked so if I don't cry when my baby's born then I really am a psycho and I cried I think it was also because we lost a baby as well at 26 weeks and it was past the stage of abortion we had to give birth to the baby we gave birth to a stillborn, had a funeral for her and everything so I was waiting for that scream and I've been watching the midwife programs and everything I was waiting for that scream I just wanted the baby to come out and scream and the baby and as soon as Ocean as soon as he came out literally within fraction of a second so emotion release I'm not a full psycho and also just relief and it was an amazing feeling I'll be honest it was a challenge at first but it was quite overwhelming I don't know why just I guess it's probably quite normal having a child I probably didn't bond as quickly as maybe some definitely compared to my wife who's an empath who's just obsessed with him whereas I'm probably not quite but I feel I can feel that love and that bond growing day by day which is lovely to see so I think it's a journey he's only 10 weeks old that's the last question plans for the future well as I said in the documentary I want to be a Hollywood actor but that's not that was a bit more of a superficial sort of joke well it's not a joke I'm going to do that but one of my next plans is to create a next generation education platform I've helped coaches but that's just a piece of the puzzle I'm creating a platform sort of in the works to create a blended learning platform for both children and families where they can learn and co-learn together because there's no point teaching a child something if it's not being enforced at home and there's no point teaching an adult something if they don't know how to communicate it to their children so it can be this one platform everything that the education system is not providing it's not going to have massive English and stuff in there but it's going to be alternative learning for families that want to thrive in their 21st century so moving out not out of the coaching industry I'm going to continue building my brand and doing all those sorts of things but I want to create a bigger impact the education industry has built off the industrial revolution a hundred years ago and it's just archaic outdated it doesn't work and it's a 1.5 trillion dollar industry so the business minister inside me is like there's a problem there wanting to be solved and I've got a long career ahead of me so I want to see if I can tackle it for anybody that's watching it's maybe an ally for struggle just now doesn't know how to get out what's your hand for them have hope I think that's the biggest thing people seem to think that there is no way out and it takes podcasts like this to inspire people and realize that the change is possible if there's no belief that there is a way out then it's just that you're going to feel like you're in this dark hole and there's nothing you can do about it understand that there is there's lots of resources available if there's addiction, there's drugs and alcohol meetings if there's anything else there's lots of free services there's books and as long as you actually do absorb that information and implement it in your life which is obviously key it doesn't take long before your map of the world is changing so I just say do the work as uncomfortable as it is take action and come and join the coaching masters how can people get in contact with you if they want to check out and ask you questions what's your social medias so Louis, Raymond, Taylor just because there's three first names, a bit weird so Louis, Raymond, Taylor and all platforms are mainly active on Instagram I answer my messages on there as well so if anyone's got any message drop me on Instagram and you can check out thecoachermasters at thecoachermaster.com that's it just being a pleasure to have a just a general chit chat and not be grilled and thank you for being positive and inspiring and not being one of these click baity kind of media controversial prodders that's caused drama mate I appreciate it's been a really enjoyable conversation listen fair play you mate I wish you nothing but the best for the future good luck to you the missies and the baby and I look forward to seeing what you do brother thanks mate, cheers


Welcome, Jesse Bates to the show. Rhett Lewis, Jim Trotter here with you. Jesse, first off, congratulations. I've been one of the best safeties in the league for a long time now, spending that first five years of your career in Cincinnati. Now you get this new beginning in Atlanta. What ultimately attracted you to the Falcons? Yeah, man, I think that this division, man, is up in the air. It's a lot of similar, you know, similar situation that I was in going into year four with Cincinnati, you know, with, like I said, a division that, you know, a lot of teams are trying to figure out who their identity is. And I think that here in Atlanta that coach has already established that and I'm excited to continue to build on that and try to elevate that as much as I can and come in here and do whatever I can to elevate this team, elevate this city and build bonds and memories that'll last me a lifetime. Jesse, first off, congratulations, man. I'm happy for you and your success. I wanted to ask you, take us through what it's like to be a free agent, a player who is one of the top at his position at a position of need that's tough to fill around the league. Is there anxiousness, nervousness, a level of expectation? What is that moment like or this period like for a player such as yourself? Yeah, man, it's something, a day, I think that, you know, a lot of people pray for, a lot of people dream for this day to come. And I don't think a lot of people would think about all the anxiety and all the butterflies that also come with it. Yeah, I had so many, I took a nap before I got my phone call. So that'll be my advice to all the other free agents that's still on the board. Just stay at peace, man. Just make sure you know who you are as a player, no matter what the situation, what the end result is. Just know that every year is a contract year in this league.  You see guys get released, all the above. And I think the mindset is, you know, take it day by day and just be you. Jesse, was Atlanta all the way for you? Was there ever a shot at going back to Cincinnati? What were your thoughts on how this all played out?  You know, built tons and tons of relationships and bonds. You know, with the people there in Cincinnati. So yeah, it was very tough being able to up and leave that city because I know how much they've done for me. But I'm very excited for the future with the Falcons being able to, you know, give me what, not give me because I earned it because I think a lot of people tend to say, you know, this guy has been given this contract, but no, there's a lot of, you know, sacrifice and a lot of time, time away from family, loved ones that you miss out on to make this dream come true. But yeah, I will say that it's just a blessing, like I said, to make it to this point and I'm not done. I feel like I haven't played my best ball. So I'm just excited for the future and continue to be the best Jesse Bates III. To that point, Jesse, what are the Falcons getting in Jesse Bates III? Yeah, like I said in the interview earlier today, you're gonna get someone that's the same guy every day, whether that's the guy that's on the field in between the lines, whether that's the guy who shakes the cafeteria ladies hand, I'll be the same guy every day for this organization, for this community. So yeah. What are they getting on the field?  And I think that I've been able to experience all of it. I've been able to experience the bad, my first, you know, three years in Cincinnati, but being the same guy every day throughout that bad period and then transitioning over to the good side of it. You know, being able to have a leader in the locker room that, you know, no matter what, it's gonna be there and keep people calm and poise on the field to, you know, make plays and eventually win football games here in Atlanta. Jesse, you mentioned your first couple of years in Cincinnati, we're met with some struggles and frustration as you tried to work through that and get that team to the point where they are now where you're leaving and now going to Atlanta, a franchise very much looking to have that kind of Bengals type renaissance. Is that something you feel like is, you know, a reason why you are there in Atlanta and something that is attainable in the near term? Absolutely. I think it's a realistic goal. I think that not just the people in this locker room know that, I think know the people in the same division know that as well, but just excited to continue to build off that and being in such a great city like Atlanta, the people, I know what type of people are here and it's similar to Cincinnati in an instance, as far as the people and the community around here. So, like I said, I'm very excited to be a part of something special again, you know, whether that takes a year or whether it takes two. Like I said, it's going to be a fun ride. Well, Jesse, congrats once again. Wish you all the best now in your new destination as one of the newest Atlanta Falcons. Thanks again, bud.


If you do polls or quizzes in your Zoom meeting, the new update that allows you to create permanent polls will be a great help. Let me show you how. If you have logged into your Zoom account recently, you might have noticed a new feature called polls and quizzes. This feature allows you to create polls that can be used in all future meetings. To get started, click on the option. Here I have already created two polls. One is a normal poll and one is an advanced poll. In this video, I will not spend too much time explaining the different types of polls. I already have a separate video that explains polls, advanced polls, quizzes, etc. Link to those videos is in the description. Do check them out. Ideally, you should create permanent polls that do not change from meeting to meeting. For example, if you want an overall feedback of your meeting, you could create something like this. This is an advanced poll that allows the participants to rate your meeting, share their feedback, and so on. To create a new permanent poll, click on the create option. You are presented with two options. Create a regular poll or create an advanced poll. You can disable or enable the polls. Use the pencil icon if you want to make any corrections to your poll. And the three dots provide you additional functionality of either deleting the poll or creating a duplicate of this poll. All right, let's assume you have created a couple of permanent polls. How do you use them in your regular Zoom meeting? Let me schedule a new meeting. Start by schedule a meeting. Give the details of your meeting. Assign a suitable password. And finally, click on the save button. If you scroll to the bottom, you will find that two polls have been already assigned to this meeting. And these are the two permanent polls that were marked as enabled. If you don't want any of the permanent polls to be part of this meeting, you can click on the three dots and click the delete option. You can also edit the permanent polls by clicking on the pencil icon, make the necessary changes, and then click on the save button. You get two options. One is to save the updated poll as a new poll, or you can choose to save and replace. If you choose the save and replace, it will update the permanent poll, which means going forward, any new meeting that you create will have the updated poll as the permanent poll. Of course, you can still create meeting specific polls by clicking on the create option. And you can choose to create a poll or an advanced poll or a quiz. If you want this poll to be added into your permanent library, just click on this option, add to polls, quiz library. And that's it. If you do a lot of polls in your Zoom meetings, this feature should be definitely something you should check out. If you like this video, please hit the subscribe button as it encourages me to create more content like this.


Today is the second day of the second week, ministers have all arrived. We are now well into the political part of the process. The presidency of the Minister for Environment of Peru, Manuel Puddar Vidal, has talked to all the ministers already, given them a briefing on where we are, asked for their cooperation so that we get a result in the next remaining three days in hand. And I'm fairly sure that such a result will be forthcoming. We expect the arrival of the U.S. Secretary of State tomorrow, John Kerry, that hopefully will also bring political momentum. Today I'm going to talk about a particular issue that I follow in the negotiations, namely adaptation, and with it also now loss and damage. There were several items in adaptation, some in the top part of the negotiations, and I'll mention those first. There was a decision to be made on the national adaptation plans, how they were going to be done, and in particular whether or not they should be a planned document, or not have a planned document. The developed country is saying, we don't need a document, let it just be a process. Developing countries says it can be a process, but it also needs to have some outcome as well. So they won that particular battle and argument, and we now have a NAP decision that does have a document coming out of it. The LDC issues have come up. Lease developed countries have a particular negotiating track, mainly to do with the funding of the Lease Developed Countries Fund. They've been demanding more money, and a fast-track approach to getting the money. Again, they didn't get a lot more money, they got some, but they did get the fast-track approach to getting the money, which was another good win for them. And finally, on adaptation, we have a somewhat more contentious issue, which is should we or should we not have an adaptation goal in the main agreement that's going to go to Paris. We'll have to agree whether it goes in or not here in Lima, and then agree, if it goes in, agree on what it would entail before we get to Paris. The argument from the developed country side is we don't need an adaptation goal, we already know what we're going to do, let's just go and do it. We don't have to put it into the text of the Paris Agreement. Developing countries argue that it's a very important issue that we do need to have in. There's a similar argument to the adaptation argument also on loss and damage, where there were a few technical issues to do with the work plan and the technical composition of the Warsaw International Mechanism on Loss and Damage, which was agreed last year in Warsaw, and there was an interim committee that met and developed a work plan that needed to be adopted here, it has been adopted. The interim committee had to be moved into a full-time committee and the composition of that committee had to be agreed. We have now agreed that it's going to be 50% developed countries and 50% non-developed countries, underdeveloped countries, so that's been resolved, but there is another bit left, which is again similar to adaptation goal, should loss and damage appear in the Paris text that we are going to agree here in Lima and then negotiate between Lima and Paris. Developed countries have put it in. Developed countries have asked for it to be taken out. The way the chairs, the co-chairs of this track have dealt with it is they have come up with text with options. So there's an option one that says keep loss and damage in. There's an option two that says sort of refer to the Warsaw International Mechanism and that should be enough. And option three, take it out. The US is very adamant about take it out. The developing countries keep it in. So we should see what happens. That's something that the ministers will have to resolve hopefully by Friday.


You will get loads of kids with head injuries and drunkards and gunshots, booms, name it. And your attending is going to say, what are you studying there? Come on, do it. Finish off those sutures. You're just sitting there. Finish off those. Okay, don't even talk to me. I don't have time. And he'll just leave you alone. You say, look, I don't want to be a surgeon. You can't say that you have to learn how to do all these techniques, right? So let me explain to you how to hold a needle holder. We don't have the rest of the material, but we are going to do some other technique. Let's say I'm a surgeon and you are assisting me. I'm busy doing my job here. I just extend my hand. How will you hand me this instrument? Do it. I don't have time. I'm not looking at you. You're not proposing to somebody, are you? You're not supposed to be so jetty. You're supposed to take it like this.  You're supposed to slap it in my hand like that and make sure I get it and I feel it. Okay. So do it that way. I'm doing something here. Really slap it in. Yes. Now I know that he's giving me the right instrument. It's not, I just leave it like that, you know? Because I can't look here and there. So that's the way to hand over to the surgeon. Okay. So this is a needle holder. This is how we hold the needle. And those are, I think, some met force. I think their best is already attended the suturing technique. And the metfights are looking at them very obviously, you know? Because they have not attended the suturing techniques. But we are working towards that. The parts of a needle holder are as follows. These are the jaws of the needle holder. This is the box type of joint. This is the handle of the needle holder. These are the rings of the needle holder. And this is the ratchet. The ratchet has got three clicks. One, two, three. Depending on how tight you want to hold the needle holder. Now when you take a look at a needle holder, you will find that it's quite similar at first appearance to what's known as a hemostat. That is the one with which you hold blood vessels. But there is some significant differences. At first glance, when you're giving a full tray and you're just told to handle it, you might pick up the hemostat. It happens quite often. You try to do a suturing with a hemostat. How should you differentiate a needle holder from a hemostat? It looks pretty same. The hemostat, the jaws will be very long. The box of that joint will be further closer to the handle. And it will be much more delicate and smaller. So these are some of the differences. Otherwise, pretty much many things will be similar. The reason why the needle holder has got a very short jaws is because it wants to get a good grip of the needle. This is a needle which is used for suturing. Now if all of you come a little closer, then you can see a little better. And because we are all a small happy family here, we are all, and that's the way I like to look upon it as the way to hold the needle in the needle holder. In fact, this is pretty much what I'm going to tell if I do manage to get a class with you. The long axis of the needle should be at right angles to the long axis of the needle holder, first point. Initially, the best place to hold it is somewhere in the middle with the apex of the needle, if you're right handed, most of us are right handed, pointing inwards because you're holding it with your right hand. If you're a left handed person, then obviously you'll hold it this way, but then most of us are right handed. And it should not be angulated like this or like this. It should be at right angles, that's the first thing. Second thing, where to hold? Should we hold it outwards or should we hold it inwards? Average place is to hold it in the middle, but there will be different situations, maybe you may need to hold it outwards or you may need to hold it very close to the tip. But that will be when we start doing the suturing in the next session, I'll actually tell you because we don't have the suturing material. Given two clicks, usually two clicks are required, if you use too much pressure, the needle will tend to straighten out. So you have to balance how much force you're using. And if you use too little pressure, then the needle will wobble like that. So the force that you apply to hold the needle holder, needle should be optimum. After you've held the needle on the needle holder, how to hold the needle itself, the needle holder itself? There are two ways of doing it. I'll show both of them are equally acceptable. The ring finger should go into the lower loop, not this, not the middle finger, not the index finger, not the little finger, the ring finger. The thumb will go in the upper loop. And only the distal parts of the phalanx, distal part of the digits should be in the loops, not like this. Now why? If I hold like this, if you notice, I'll have a much wider range of movement. On the other hand, if I do like this, you see how little range of movement I have. You see, everything's got a practical utility. So we should hold with the tip of our digits. After we've held it, the middle finger will give support from below at the place where the ratchet is located. And the index finger will give control like this. So this is one way of holding. So this is one way. The other method of holding, which I prefer, which is equally acceptable, is after I have caught the needle holder, you can hold it in the palm of your hand like this. I get very good control this way. I prefer this way. Both are equally acceptable. So these are the bare bones. Just a few quick words about the needle itself. As you see, most of the needles that we use today nowadays are all curved needles. There are, of course, straight needles also, but generally it's used. Now curved needles, there are two types. One is known as a cutting curve needle and the other is known as a round-bodied curve needle. Now how do we differentiate between a cutting and a round-bodied? If I were to take a cross-section through this needle, just imagine a cross-section, and if I have to look at it, end on. If the body appears circular, then it's called a round-body. And if the cut section looks triangular, then it's called cutting needle. So when do we use the cutting needle? When do we use the round-bodied needle? The round-bodied needle is used for delicate structures like peritoneum, misentery, and all these intestine. And the cutting needle is used for tough structures like the skin. You might say, no, my skin is very changing and delicate. Well, skin is not so delicate. Skin is a very tough structure. So for skin, we use cutting needle. Otherwise, you will not be able to, you try to do suture the skin with the round-body needle and trust me, it is very difficult. So cutting needle is used for tough structures. There are many other details. We will not go into all that. The material, suture material itself, it is already attached to the needle. This is called swaging technique. It's swaged. You don't need the thread, but nowadays it's not done. Most of the material that we use for suturing the skin is nylon or proline. So this is nylon. Proline will be blue in color. They are all synthetic monofilament material. The problem with this is that they tend to slip. So we have to put multiple throws, unlike linen or anything, which you can just put two throws, two knots and they will tight. But here, if you put two, they will slip. And by the time the patient comes back to your removal, there will be no switches for you to remove because the wound would have already opened up because the switches would have already opened up. So with monofilament material, synthetic material like nylon or proline, we have to give multiple throws. So these are the bare-bone essentials of the needle holder and the needle. Now what I'm going to do is, since we don't have the full suturing set with us, I want to utilize the time. I'm going to show you technique of knot-tank. Knot-tank techniques with the left hand and with the right hand.  This is a company which makes all these material, actually. They have to utilize these places. So you have to see very closely. This is a typical tray. And let's say this is the suture material, which you are using for tying the knots. Follow me. This is a little dicey, but once you have got it down, it won't be so difficult. This actually came from my office, so it will go back to my office. Once you have looped it, I'm showing the knot-tank techniques only with my hands because we don't have the material for suturing. I'll show you the technique for suturing with the needle holder when we have the full set with us. Take the smaller end between the thumb and the next finger. The long end is on the other hand. Okay? Watch. I make a loop like this. I'm going slowly. When I do it very fast, you won't be able to see it. So, small end, let it go over your other three fingers. Then bring the long end over your other three fingers. When I did that, now I bend my middle finger and catch hold of this, the previous one, the one which is already there and rotate my hand. This is the first one. And the next one, I take, I do the same thing again. And I get a square knot. See the knot? This is a square knot. So now you'll have to do it. And then I'll show you the next knot-tank technique.


So I'm the seller. You're coming in to be my listing agent. Give me the pitch. Okay, yeah, sure. Look, here's the deal, Mr. Seller. After we sign these paperwork, I'm going back to the office to call people. I'm gonna make calls immediately to find a buyer for your property. That's what makes me different than all the other agents out there. Nobody's gonna come to you and tell you that they're calling people, right? They're gonna tell you all about online, Facebook, postcards, they're doing this, they're doing that. But none of them are gonna come to you and say, hey, I'm gonna go out and have real conversations with possible prospects because I've targeted them as a possible prospect for your property as maybe an upgrade or downgrade into your property. And so that's what makes me different. And that's why I actually sell more property than anybody in my area because I have real conversations with people to actually get the job done. So you're not using passive marketing. You're using active, aggressive marketing to actually get the properties hold. Well, here's the thing. And if this is me or you talking, the thing is, is I do a lot of passive marketing, right? But that's just there, that everybody should be doing that. That should be automatic. When you put it on MLS, it's everywhere. So that should already be there. I do Facebook ads and stuff for my listings, but all that should be that to me, that's an automatic, right? What I want to get across to my client is that I'm different. And here's how. I didn't give you a pre-listing package because I'm too busy making calls to find buyers for my listings.  Or do you want Mr. Phone Call Guy that's gonna go back to the office and start making calls to sell your property? I'm gonna leave that choice up to you.


God is not made greater when you worship Him, but you are made greater when you serve Him. Today, rather than looking for a particular project in which to put God's truth to work, spend some quiet moments contemplating the greatness of the God who made you. Here are some thoughts to prepare your mind for worship and reflection. The oceans of the world contain more than 340 quintillion gallons of water, yet God holds them in His hand. The earth weighs 6,000,000 metric tons, yet to God, it represents but dust on the scale. The known universe stretches more than 30 billion light-years, 206,000,000 miles, yet God has measured off that great expanse with His fingers. That same universe contains at least 100 billion galaxies, each made up of approximately 100 billion stars, yet God knows them all by name. Now, do you see why it is absurd to offer the God of having your advice rather than your worship?


Here's what God will never approve, and it's actually good he doesn't. When Jesus called the rich young ruler, he told him to sell all he had. When the Lord called the disciples, he told them to pick up their cross. When Jesus invited someone to follow him, he demanded that they forsake all for his name's sake. Abraham left his home. Elisha burned the plow. Jesus himself sweat drops of blood in the garden, praying, Nevertheless, not my will, but your will be done. When we follow Jesus, God will not approve our plans in the place of his will. It's not about our dreams and ambitions or our hopes and cravings. When we commit to follow Jesus, it's all about his will. It's all or nothing.


Well, it matters for a range of reasons. One that's particularly close to my own work at the IMF is that we're often asked by countries to advise them on tax and spending reforms they have in mind. Clearly, there are a number of things that we then look at, which could be the effect on incentives to work and invest, but also the impact on inequality, fairness more generally is a major concern for them, and so for us it's something that we try to advise them on, not in terms of prescribing what we think the policy should be on the extent of redistribution or the extent of inequality reduction, but in terms of making sure that the policies are effective in terms of the ends that they themselves have. So we try to make sure that, for example, that they're not foregoing some efficiency gains that would be consistent with the amount of redistribution that they try and achieve. So we're trying to make sure that they get on that difficult frontier in terms of achieving the best possible trade-off between equity and efficiency concerns. Well, of course, they have, I think, very tempting policies to pursue because we might say, for example, well, the poor consume a large amount of food. They spend a lot of their proportion of their income on food, so let's subsidize food or petroleum or whatever it is. But the trouble is, of course, that while the poor may spend a larger proportion of their income on food, fuel, whatever, than the rich, typically the rich will spend a larger absolute amount. What that means is that when you think about who gets the actual benefit from the subsidy or the reduced rate of tax, actually, most of that goes to the rich, not to the poor. So some of the examples we come across that I mentioned today in the talk were instances where, for example, of $100 that the government foregoes through a subsidy or a reduced rate of VAT on food, perhaps the poorest 10% might only get about $4. So you're looking at a policy that costs $100 to get only $4 to the very poorest. But in a way, that's only the first step of the argument. The second step of the argument is to say, well, are there actually better ways of achieving it because if that's the only way you can help the poorest, maybe that's a price worth paying. So a large part of what I was talking about was really talking about how we can identify better targeted ways of reaching the poor, which is relatively straightforward to do in the more advanced economies where we have more sophisticated income support and other sort of social support systems are easier to do there than in developing and emerging economies. But really when you look at the numbers, even the very blunt tools that may be available in these lower-income economies are typically going to be better, more effective than reduced tax rates subsidies. Well, to a very large extent, I think that's a little bit the puzzle we have is that we can find these policies that look better in terms of both efficiency and equity, but for some reason, they don't get adopted. And you mentioned the UK, and I think that's a very good example in terms of the zero rating of food, which is something that is generally recognized, I think, by people working in the area, is a really very ineffective, very costly way of reaching the poor. So I think we're talking about really not analytical issues or mathematical issues, but issues of political economy and quite what it is that makes it very hard for politicians to take on these very challenging possibilities that they face in terms of bringing about gains in both equity and efficiency. And that's true in the UK, but it's true in other countries too, in lower-income and emerging market economies. We also think there are better targeted ways of achieving their ends, but somehow they don't seem to get adopted. So we end up talking about political economy. We end up talking about the fact that well, just as the poor don't get the main benefit of these generalized subsidies, it means that the better off do. So the better off are going to be a natural constituency for the continuation of these subsidies. Sometimes I think there can be a mistrust that government may say, well, we'll remove this subsidy, but don't worry, we'll compensate you through some other means, through some spending measure. People may have a little bit of distrust of that. They may think that perhaps the spending system is corrupt or perhaps in a couple of years' time, the government will conveniently forget that they've promised to compensate them for these price increases. So I think it comes down not so much to a matter of having the appropriate instruments available to compensate the poorest, but these political economy factors that I think we're really still struggling with at the fund in terms of how best to facilitate what I think we see as potentially quite significant improvements. Well, I think we're certainly, I think, very cautious about that. I think we are very mindful of government's own equity objectives. So governments may have a sense that they would like to do more to alleviate poverty, to have perhaps a more equal distribution of income. And clearly, tax and spending measures have some role to play in that. And I think one of the points I was keen to emphasize is that when we think about these redistribution issues, we have to think about both the taxing side and the spending side. And I think all too often in many of these debates, people focus on just one instrument or one side of the government's budget account without seeing the bigger picture, which I think is really the challenge for many governments is to put together the packages of both taxes and spending measures that achieve their objectives. So for example, people often say that the VAT is a regressive tax. That may be true if you simply look at the VAT in itself. But the question is really, well, what does that revenue go to finance? And it will make a big difference in terms of how you think that impacts equity. Whether the money is being spent on some pro-poor item or on something where the benefits primarily go to the better off. I think so, we certainly see things very much in terms of package. Many of these I think are ideas that we put out there for wider discussion rather than necessarily being things we want to press on in particular countries, but for example, you mentioned property tax. And I think that's a good example of a tax where there are potential gains, not only in fairness, if that's what governments are pursuing, but also in straightforward efficiency terms. Because in many ways property, even if we leave aside the distribution effect, real estate in particular, can be quite an efficient tax base. Because essentially it doesn't move around. So if you have a nice house and a nice location which has a high value, essentially that tends to meet the economist's ideal of something you can tax without it going somewhere else or the base vanishing, right? And I think we have a sense that simply if you look at the numbers, the reliance on property tax varies a huge amount even across advanced economies. So our sense is that that implies that there may be potential for more efficient taxation through that route in many advanced economies. Which in many advanced economies, it may be that in fact, you want to use that revenue to reduce other taxes. It might not necessarily go towards spending. It might be that you can reduce more distorting taxes by relying a little bit more heavily on the property tax. But I think that's an example of a tax where one might be able to see both some efficiency benefits and also some element of fairness that may be appealing in particular countries. No, that's a very good question. I think it's there's certainly been advances in understanding a lot of the data on these issues. There've been some very marked trends in shares of income, particularly the very rich. And it's clearly I think something that relates to people's daily lives in a very direct sense when they worry about what properties their children are going to afford and these kind of things. It's clearly something that touches people very directly. I think I would say both, I must say I was particularly struck at this particular conference by the wealth aspect. Because I think we had several presentations that were really very fascinating in terms of the data they were presenting on trends in wealth. And trends in wealth I think have been much less understood. And have really attracted much less interest from policy makers. And I think that's certainly something that recent debates have put squarely on the table. Well I think it's been a terrific experience I think at this conference. I think UNIWDA has the capacity to bring together leading experts in the field and also to bring I think together a very wide and diverse audience from all over the world to address these issues of common interest.


the rain caught up with me. It's still one of my favorite places to be. This is Kani Lake, Texas, by the way. Well, the rain caught up with me, but I really want to finish this. So I'm just going to muddle through and hope it all works out. As you can hear, I had to take shelter beneath one of these 10 roof picnic tables, but hopefully you still be able to hear me. I'll try and speak up so you can. So the question we're dealing with now, I mean, we've seen or you've determined which of the propositions are live. Remember, that's something that's up to you. You've determined which are live. And we've also looked at which ones are forced. And you're pretty much all about one are forced. Live is up to you. Forced is not. Next, we try to determine which are momentous. And momentous means that it has an impact on your life, if it's true. This does not mean that if you believe it, it has an impact on your life. Something can have an impact on your life, whether you believe in them or not. Gravity is an example. The weather is an example. I did not believe that it was going to rain today. When I got started on this endeavor, there was a prediction on the weather for me. Yeah, they make predictions all the time. They make mistakes. I didn't believe that it was going to rain today. Nevertheless, it was true.  So the question is, which of these propositions are momentous? Meaning if they're true, what impact do they have on your life? And by the way, this is also not up to you. This is something independent of what you believe. So trying to figure it out, look at the list of propositions we've had, figure out whether there's some amazing consequence, and what it would be.