Wow, I'm excited for this. I'm sorry guys, you've got two of me in a row. If I'm looking down at my phone more I didn't write this schedule, but this is gonna be a free-flowing one for sure. So Rahul, let's start with some context, some intros The Superhuman, we all love it, but how did you come to Found Superhuman? How did you come to change our lives with email? How did I come to Found the product? Well, I Previously also had an email company that some folks here may remember called Reportive It was the first Gmail browser extension to scale to millions of users on the right-hand side of Gmail We showed you what people looked like where they worked their recent tweets links to their social profiles and This thing grew like crazy in less than two years I ended up selling it to LinkedIn where I ran all of our email integrations and During those four years. I became intimately familiar with how professionals do their email and the TLDR is Really badly? So we decided let's build the fastest email experience in the world It's blazingly fast where searches instantaneous where everything happens in a hundred milliseconds or less an email experience Where you never actually have to touch the mouse where you could do everything from your keyboard and fly through your inbox an Email experience that had the best Gmail plug-in functionality but built in natively and one of course that just worked offline And so at that vision we built Superhuman now I think I loved about Superhuman was kind of the exclusivity that it had from very very early days It was obviously kind of invite only from what I remember and it had this kind of aura around it And you've been very surgical in terms of how you build buzz and hype to get early customer traction Can you talk to me about how you thought about this and some kind of cool takeaways for you? So we were really surgical about our Positioning and I think this is I want to make this as actionable as possible This is something every startup here can do is get precise about your positioning The best resource to start with is this article by Ariel Jackson. It's called positioning your startup is vital Here's how to nail it. You can Google it right now and in the article. She uses a fill-in-the-blanks approach It goes something like For your target's customer who has a key need or opportunity Your product has a key benefit unlike competing alternatives. This is its key differentiation. It sounds very abstract I'll give you an example. She uses one Harley Davidson so for macho wannabes Who want to join a gang of cowboys and who live in an era of decreasing freedom? Harley Davidson is the only motorcycle manufacturer in the world that makes big loud Motorcycles and if you're familiar with the brand you'll know that captures it in a nutshell And I say this as someone with a Harley in my garage back home So we thought about this for a while and we started asking questions like Are we the Ford of email? No, not really. Are we the BMW or the Mercedes of email? Yeah, still not quite. Are we the Tesla of email? Yes, now we're starting to get somewhere We did a whole bunch more reading and by the way here's another book recommendation Positioning the battle for your mind and we eventually came to the following positioning For leaders and managers of high technology high-growth companies Superhuman is the fastest email experience ever made Especially for those who feel like their work is mostly email It's what Gmail could be if it were built today not 15 years ago and in superhuman everything is meticulously crafted Blazingly fast and happens in a hundred milliseconds or less. Now you might think that is Ludicrously niche how many people in the world could possibly fit that but to paraphrase Paul Buhite to the creator of Gmail It is far more effective To make a lot of people sorry to make a few people like you a lot Then lots of people like you a little because you can always expand from there. That is the key to buzz So one thing that really strikes me that it's like the challenge. I'm sorry. We are off schedule But I'm too interested you like email is is used by every segment of society How do you think about an advice founders when it comes to a horizontal product marketing to when your product is used By so many to make it resonate across so many different verticals. How do you think about that when you think about that messaging? Well, like I said our messaging is Our positioning is extremely precise when it comes to the messaging. This is why I always advise to early-stage startups You don't yet know who your hero user is So like Harry, I also invest if I go to a website and at the very early stage The startup is extremely precise about who it's for that's actually probably a mistake because you don't know yet Have it at the back of your mind. We had the positioning I just gave you at the back of my mind But if you went to our website and indeed if you were to go there today, you wouldn't see any of that So what do you do instead? You simply extol the benefits of your product Explain what it does for people in our case superhuman helps you get through your inbox twice as fast You reply to people faster. You'll save three hours or more every single week But nowhere on the website Will you see it's for founders or leaders or managers or executives or business development or sales or all of the people that we now support? So long story short don't explicitly say who it's for just say what the benefit is How's building for obsessed customers different what makes that truly different to versus just building for broader customer segments? And how do you think about that in the product build-out process? One of the best things about building for obsessed customers is People ask me this all the time. How do you get so much feedback? Well, I tell you if your customers are obsessed if they live or die by your service and for all of our customers email is mission critical You will be Swimming in feedback at this point at superhuman. We've now tagged and triaged over 100,000 Individual different pieces of feedback. These are recorded verbatim Voices of the customer actual sentences and a custom CRM essentially that we've built Explicitly for the purpose of product feedback and you just don't get this with many companies So charge early get obsessed customers. That's one of the benefits So it's charged early what like when should they charge how should they think about pricing lessons there? Because also for you like to be and I mean this politely like 30. What was it 30 bucks 30 good yet? Hey, that's quite a lot for email. Like how did you come to that price? And how do you advise founders on pricing their very early iterations? So we actually charged from day one We even charge all of our investors to use superhuman and that was I know As well, you know that was in the early days How would I advise this to founders? Well again, I would advise Surgical precision and I want to make the super actionable the best resource available for pricing is this book called monetizing innovation by Madhavan Ramanujan Now Madhavan describes various ways to do what he calls Developing pricing and this can get arbitrarily complicated with Conjoint analyses and expensive consultants will definitely do the full bells and whistles approach But you don't have to do it that way if you're an early-stage startup What we did and what everyone here can do is the van Western Dorp pricing sensitivity meter you essentially ask your target market for questions And I'll give you the example of superhuman Number one at what price would this product superhuman be so expensive that you would not buy it number two At what price would this product superhuman be so cheap that you'd be worried about its quality And you also would not buy it those prices exist number three at what point would you? Consider this product to start getting expensive You'd stop and think about it But you would still actually buy it and number four at what points would you consider it a bargain for the money? Now most founders most companies intuitively orient around Question number four and that's usually the right thing to do But as we just discussed the positioning for superhuman is premium Our position is that we are faster and more powerful than Gmail or now office 365 And it turns out that the question that most directly supports that position is question number three It's starting to get expensive But gosh darn it email is so important to me and I want to save those three hours a week I'm still going to buy it anyway, so that's typically what I would advise but there is one more step which is once you have this price figured out and Harry does this math. I'm sure in his sleep at this point. Let's do a quick gut check on market size So you say you want to be a billion dollar company? Well as we just heard valuations are regressing to the mean let's assume at a billion dollars That means that you are 10x your run rate. You need to be a hundred million dollar plus revenue business Well at 30 dollar 30 dollars a month you do the math. It's not hard. You need 300,000 subscribers So we asked ourselves in the early days of superhuman do we think we can get to 300,000 subscribers? We answered. Yeah, absolutely. We can get to 300,000 subscribers And so we went ahead with the price. I think so I totally agree with you there And I love the kind of bottoms-up time analysis The one thing that I also remember very vividly was how struck people were by the onboarding process In terms of building hype, and I'm sorry because we did have this schedule, but it wasn't my schedule So I just prefer mine So like in terms of building hype you did the onboarding process personally with with yourself with other wraps with amazing team members And everyone said it didn't scale and it wouldn't scale like one How do you reflect on that and two how do you advise founders on doing things that don't scale to build hype in the early days? So for those that don't know some a little bit of context Superhuman is famous infamous if you will for and in a sense we pioneered this in technology Insisting on 30-minute one-to-one concierge onboardings for every new person that was using the product and in the early days I did this myself. I actually turned up in person and back then it was an hour And I would bring a gift a bottle of wine or if you didn't drink one, you know something to make you feel really special There's all kinds of obvious reasons to do this However, I'm not gonna claim to be a genius. I didn't sit down in our office and think Oh wouldn't it be amazing if we pioneered this new go-to-market that would completely change the way that people Retain and become viral and so on we actually found it by accident and here is how I had this observation that most Companies especially B to C ish companies and I would count ourselves as B to C to B make the terrible mistake of just launching their products perhaps you go on product tents and If you're in a market like ours general productivity and collaboration Guess what? You'll get tens of thousands of people to sign up in the first few days That used to be impressive these days. That's no longer hard.  They'll kick the tires. They'll break stuff because it's early-stage software Let's be real things are broken. They'll report those bugs and if you don't fix them in time They'll then get disappointed and churn out. That is the very definition of a net detractor and I've seen this happen I've seen it happen countless times. So how do we fix this? Well, we only let on board the precise number of people that we think we can actually handle in terms of fixing bugs for This isn't technical scaling. This is technical debt scaling It's the debt that we all have but that we don't see and so in the early days This was really small I on boarded maybe four or five people a week and that Saturated my small engineering team of ten people But eventually we got the number of bugs down and the products became higher and higher quality We could do ten people a week twenty people a week Until we were doing hundreds of people thousands of people per week and still maintaining a high quality product What we found and here's the reason why we continue to scale it is that we had category Leading benchmarks across basically everything you would care about Retention churn net promoter score products market fit, which is the 40% metric that you may have heard of we came up with previously Retention virality really every which way you could slice it. These users were incredible Now as for the folks who said this wouldn't scale here's the common misconception if you just Grow a large team of people to do onboarding for folks who are not yet sold Then yes, this won't scale but remember Everyone who met or meets an onboarding specialist back then or today is already a customer They've already authorized their credit card. They've already signed up They've probably seen the sent via superhuman signature multiple times and internally. They're mostly sold Not a hundred percent, but mostly and that's what you need in order to make an approach like this work I have to ask as well I had Brian Armstrong on the show from Coinbase the other day and he said, you know the NFT launch the mistake We made was we built buzz too early before the v1 and then never ever has a v1 ever lived up to expectations And so I wanted to hear your thoughts on that like actually the dangers of building buzz Kind of what if v1 doesn't live up to expectations and how do you think about that because I've been thinking back and forth about that Danger of building buzz and whether it's good to set expectations high and create it or actually whether it can create more challenges as well I think we need a healthy balance I've definitely seen founders go the other way They don't build any buzz at all and then by the time they're ready to launch They're starting from scratch. That's not a good idea. Do not do that. I See also and I'm not going to name names that would be Terribly unfair of founders who build way too much buzz Yeah, and then v1 doesn't meet expectations, which by the way is normal. That's to be expected but the Delta is so large and The amount of catch up that that founder now has to do is so great that they never do actually catch up So this is an awfully delicate balance that we need to somehow thread. I think in our case We definitely leaned towards creating buzz in years two and three by which point I would say we still really hadn't launched Not by any reasonable definition But years one through two we were hella quiet. There was barely anything we did. I was establishing thought leadership though For example when mailbox got shutted by Dropbox I thought aha here is a good way to inject myself into the news cycle And I was able to drive north of 10,000 signups just off that little piece of news And we did a few things like that to build our email list up Email is still the best marketing channel of all time. So we by the time that we launched we had perhaps 50,000 people on the email list and another 50,000 people on product hunt upcoming Can I ask did being very public and speaking and writing was that always very natural to you because the most Kind of common thing that I hear from founders is I know I need to build a brand But it's just not me it's just not me and I say well, you know No one loves going to the gym when they first go to the gym But you know you keep going and you get better and better and then a year later It's much more natural Like did you feel very natural at home being that public-facing figure and how's your relationship to kind of your own personal brand building? I guess changed over time in relation to creating buzz It does feel really natural. Yeah, absolutely, and I think this is where We all need to play into our strengths I mean you are naturally an incredible interviewer and it's been but I'm not I've just done it for eight Well, I've done three thousand. I was terrible. So here's the thing I think I was one of your early interviews. You were one of my very early interviews. Yeah, I won the first hundred And I've seen Harry become Come from that humble beginning if you don't mind my saying so to at this point one of the most if not the pre-eminent tech interviewer tech Personality in this industry to the point where I'm like your Harry come back on stage And he's like sure I'll just do this off the top of my head. This is fine, but to answer your question. I Find it very natural Probably the reason is I grew up doing it competitively I was in the debate team, but I'm actually a terrible debater. So in the way that this works in England I don't know if this work is similar in other countries You'd have an opener then some on wood rebut then you'd have someone rebutting that then you'd have a closer The thing is about being the opener. You don't have to really argue with anyone else You don't have to rebut anything you just get to go out there and be theatrical and really enthused in entertainment audience And that was my position because I was terrible at doing the actual arguments But I was really good at riling an audience and so I did this from a very early age and I loved it I yeah, this is this is what I do now if that doesn't mean that's what every founder should do if this if the idea of doing that Makes you terrified or it makes you nervous. Please don't do it. There are things that I Absolutely suck at and I don't I don't even try to do them I try and build a world-class team of other people who can do those things So should they then pass or not pass off but delegate Brown to their COO CMO to kind of build that kind of cult of personality in their brand Should they just promote the superhuman brand? Like do you need a personality? Brand within a company given the cult of personality being so prominent in many of the big companies today Do you see what I mean? I do and I think the short answer is no you do not need your company to have a cult of personality But if you can create one It's an amazing edge and it is easy. We see you on must do this or whether you hate them or like him Kind of it doesn't matter. He is a cult of personality and that is probably one of his strongest assets I totally agree when you when you think back kind of over the superhuman journey I think lessons are often learned through the hardest times. So very unfair to you kind of said I was on the fly So are you? What was the hardest element of the journey with superhuman and what did you learn? Gosh the hardest elements I'm going to give you the cliched answer which is each day feels harder than the last does it? So it doesn't get easier because I was thinking I don't know. I think it does get easier You have more resources you have better teams different problems, but you're not you know sleeping in the office or you know No, I mean I never did sleep in the office Every company has a different culture. We never had that culture. We're very much Believers in this is a marathon not a sprint and I want people to be in it for the for the very long term and it shows By the way in our employee retention metrics and our retribution metrics. We have very very long-lasting employees We don't burn people out so Gosh, there are so many Hardest things I could possibly choose Okay, let me be specific. You're now also selling to companies. What's hard about going from B to C? Like direct consumer story to like selling to companies as well. What's difficult about that transition? Yeah So there is this thing and I'll come to that very shortly Jason Lemkin who who writes the blog sasta amazing and probably my favorite blog Has in many articles said that once you reach ten million dollars of ARR Yeah, I think his phrase is then the cavalry is coming you can breathe just a little bit more easy You know you can maybe take a weekend every now and then that that kind of stuff. I'm like, I'm not sure if that's true It's just as hard Well past that then to for that. So I don't know but selling to companies This is something that If I had a hundred percent retro vision, I wish we had done earlier So just one and a half years ago and actually three years ago when Harry and I will last on this stage We were we were 100% selling to individuals You couldn't buy superhuman as a company as crazy as that sounded Fast-forward to today and we're now selling superhuman also two teams and two companies And this by far is the fastest growing part of our business now You might think oh this must require some kind of fancy team features in order to do that Well, I'm here to tell you that's not true And we drove this change without any team collaboration features whatsoever and furthermore I'm gonna say that almost any startup here can drive this change if you're selling to an individual in the workplace So I'll run through how this loop works because I think it will be useful and actionable It still starts with an individual buying superhuman they then become brilliant at what they do They start getting through their email twice as fast responding faster to messages unblocking their team taking on more projects And this gets noticed internally by their team by their peers by their managers Superhuman then spreads virally inside companies and there are three because I know you're wondering three viral mechanics That make this work number one is the sent by a superhuman email signature And it's shocking that this ancient probably the oldest viral mechanic Still works today and drives north of 20% of our site traffic number two The word of mouth people naturally want to help each other especially inside companies and number three The referral and the invite mechanics So we then grow to like a handful of seats inside a company We then reach out to the company and say hey Do you all want to consolidate these seats onto one team and sometimes the company is like? Why would we do that and we say well you get to pay upfront and annually once as opposed to individually perhaps? You know nine different times depending on how many seats you have number two You hit amazing discounts when you get to ten people and number three Every single user is going to save three hours or more per week So the consolidation is generally a no-brainer and then when it hits ten seats We staff it with a customer success manager and an account manager and the CSM is responsible for driving usage Adoption and engagement and the account manager is responsible for demonstrating the return on investment of buying Superhuman to the customer So the accounts now grow really rapidly and the customer derives a ton of value from superhuman and this loop is Shockingly effective. We're now on target to quadruple teams revenue just this year alone and further I think basically any startup here that's selling to individuals can replicate the same way so we're gonna do a quick fire I'm gonna hit you with a series of questions super quick So let's go with what would you most like to change about the world of venture? How would I? Harry always asked me this quick fire questions and I hmm really good question. Let me let me ponder on that one Yeah, I Would like I Would like to get some we have a lot of oscillation going on right now between valuations being super sky-high valuations being sort of middle of the ground if you're a founder who's coming into this new I just like more clarity for the founders in terms of It was asked in your session like what for example do you need to do to raise a series a now What do you know now that you wish you'd known in getting to your first 1,000 users thinking of the seed founders in the audience getting from zero to a thousand users What do you know now that you wish you'd known then? Well, this one's easy if I could change one thing going backwards We would have built for teams from the get-go now seeing the growth that we're able to achieve I wish that we'd done that from day one. Okay, ten years. We did it's three years ago. We were here ten years Where is superhuman and what does that look like gosh? I remember this question from before you asked me many years ago. We're gonna go back on past tapes each time Let's see. Oh now you can track it over time Okay, so ten years from now We are a Multi-products company and I mean that both for superhuman the email clients Keep your eyes peeled and stay tuned. You'll start to see additions of superhuman tuned Not just for the horizontal email professional but specific Vertical specific job functions and specific industries as well as brand new products that aren't even email now Can I say everyone? Rahul has done the most stellar job here We had a schedule that someone else wrote for some a different moderator He had no idea of the questions that would come. I think he was exceptional So can we give a massive hand to Rahul? That was fantastic for stepping in at the last minute. Thank you


So you're wondering why he might choose you over another woman So let me ask you has this ever happened to you? You've been in a relationship with a man. Maybe you've spent quite a bit of time. Maybe it's been six months Maybe it's been a year. Maybe it's been Multiple years and then all of a sudden the relationship ends and the next person he meets He chooses a relationship with her and well, let me rewind for a second You've been in a situation ship or a casual relationship During this period of time and then immediately when it ends he chooses another woman and you might be going Why did he choose her over me? And I want to really lean into the conversation of what it takes for a man to choose a woman and by the way Ladies what you really should be asking yourself is why should I choose this man? But we'll get into that's another conversation because of the title of this video So to answer this question why he'll choose you over another woman or why he chooses another woman over you Is that he's ready to commit.  It's a situation ship It's a casual relationship Why isn't he willing to go all in with you and then all of a sudden go all in with someone else? Okay, and usually all in is either moving in together or getting married with someone That's really being Moving in with someone is pretty close to it and marriage is an all in Container So as I got to thinking about this I've been thinking a lot about timing Timing what is timing? And I thought to myself and I want to give you an analogy. Okay to help you with this recently. I well, let me rewind Timing is the next evolution. That's what really timing is. I wrote this down Timing is merely means the next evolution that is upon us. That's what timing is It's what's next in our Our experience this from a spiritual perspective. What's next in our experience? So what causes a person what is timing here with that next evolution? Where does this come from? Okay now I I have a quote that says the following Soulmates come into our lives to teach us a lesson And our true love goes to school with us each and every day holding hands I'm going to repeat that because this is I think very profound whether you subscribe to it or not Soulmates come into our lives to teach us lessons and our true love goes to school with us each and every day Holding hands. So do you hear the word? lessons and the word school see Relationships are a container To learn and grow as an individual. Okay Not as a couple per se, but first and foremost as an individual in addition a relationship is a separate container where two people go into it together To heal one another to support one another to love one another to be physically intimate with one another and it is a separate entity See sometimes you have chosen relationships where you needed some healing Well, actually every relationship is an opportunity for you But I do believe that sometimes we've been in relationships where we were the person who needed healing And sometimes we're in a relationship that we're here to support someone else in their healing and sometimes it's both This is very profound I really want you to lean into it because many of you are probably going Well, all I've done is heal men and I've gotten no healing from it. No, you've gotten a lot from it as well See when you give your power away to another human being you are being invited to heal That place within you that doesn't feel loved See, this is why I wrote my book. This has nothing to do with dating My book is called what the heck is self-love anyway a journey a personal development self-help and spiritual work There's a link below to get a copy of my book. Why am I bringing this up? because believe it or not every relationship affords us an opportunity to heal Sometimes we're doing a little bit more for them. Sometimes they're doing a little more for us But in reality there is a balance there because every experience that you've had with another human being That wasn't just fulfilling was teaching you an opportunity to love yourself Excuse my slurping, but my coffee mug says don't make me go all psycho roommate on you This coffee is very hot by the way So I want to lean into timing and I want to relate it to something that's happened to me And I think this will illustrate this point perfectly Many of you know recently I threw my back out And I've been really processing what's going on here Now, do you know from a spiritual perspective our back going out means not feeling supported? And what's fascinating to me is prior to my relationship with Marie. I used to throw my back out about three times a year And when I threw it out this time it's because I was playing golf but there was a spiritual thing going on because believe it or not In the 15 months I was in relationship with her and then the few months it took to kind of end the relationship I didn't throw out my back once I didn't throw out my back once and I thought what's the correlation between this because if back problem is means Feeling supported and I didn't throw out my back while I was in relationship She was meeting a need of mine Of feeling supported on an emotional level And now that i'm not in relationship and by the way she ended the relationship I didn't and by the way for those of you that Claim that she made the sacrifice moving to los angeles. That was her choice not mine I didn't go out to chicago to go look for someone. She came to los angeles to find someone. So just to clear that message up But as I go deeper into this what is throwing your back out? Well, there's another invitation not just feeling supported, but also it's a message of taking a break So I was lying on my back for quite a few days Lying down just to relieve the tension See sometimes we need to take a break. That's why going back to this timing piece when somebody ends a relationship Taking a break means healing or taking the time to heal From what may have transpired during the relationship. Here's where a lot of people mess this up See when I threw out my back one of the things I did is I went to the chiropractor I got a heating pad. I started to do stretches to get me back into shape. Okay, I've been doing a lot to get back into shape And during this time and now going forward I'm going to get back into my yoga routine I'm going to get back into my stretching routine. I'm going to get back into regular chiropractor visits So there's the break that I took and I'm going to correlate this to relationships in a moment But there's also the work After the break. Okay. Now here's what happens for a lot of people that end a relationship And this is men as well as women the relationship ends And they binge watch tv they overwork to occupy their lives They're not doing so how am I correlating this to relationships Is that they're not doing the inter inner work to heal And when a person hasn't done the inner work to heal like I use the chiropractor as an example to going to a coach I use exercises an example to watch podcasts and listen to videos and maybe journaling and and meditation and all these things to heal from a relationship See what a lot of times people do is they immediately go from one relationship to the next just like Overworking or binge watching tv because it's a distraction to the inner healing That you're being invited to do After a relationship ends so Coming back to this title. Why will he choose you over someone else? See I started this conversation. He's ready. He's ready to commit. Maybe he's done the inner work. Maybe he's done Personal development self-help with spiritual work Maybe he studied the books that I talk about. There's a link to all the books. I recommend Maybe he studied the book eight dates. Maybe he said to himself. He wants to be in a serious relationship with someone See when a man makes a commitment to himself That he wants a serious relationship with someone then the way he dates going forward is completely different than the Transactional way most people are dating. What is a transactional way? See the transactional way says I want some companionship. I want some connection.  So I'm going to find someone who just meets these transactions for me See, it's not about being a giver in the relationship although men By the way, men seem to think that if they can give a woman an orgasm That's all he needs to do to be a giver if all I've given her is an orgasm I'm being a giver and if all I do is pay for dates I'm covering the provider protector notion of a relationship a lot of men think this myopically they think this narrow mindedness That if all they do is give a woman an orgasm. He's a giver. I mean seriously I'm laughing at this. It's not a funny subject, but I do believe that's the case See truly giving in a relationship really saying I'm ready to commit saying I'm all in I'm all in I'm in other words If you're going through a bad day, I'm going to be there to support you if you need someone to listen to you because you just need to vent I'm going to be here to listen to you and not try to fix things.  Why would you accept a relationship from a man that that's all he could provide? What's going on inside of you? What needs healing from you to say?  I am not going to accept breadcrumbs See sadly many of you think you've been chosen and yet all it is is breadcrumbs. He's given you You know what breadcrumbs are it's a little bit of companionship. It's a little bit of connection.  It's a little bit of feelings, but there's no consistency. There's no There's no real intentionality In the idea of co-creating something And I think Timing plays I've been harping on this word timing I think when two people who meet and they have a natural affinity for one another A natural intentionality in the process a natural curiosity A natural conviction to what they want Then they operate from a much completely different environment. I want to read to you A quote that or a message I got you're gonna love this Okay, so let me I just got this a few hours ago for my facebook page. It says jonathan I've been following you for ages When I met a new man, I followed everything you said apart from the dating vows And I'll talk about the dating vows in a second as you haven't written I hadn't written them yet. She said We just booked our wedding April 19th. You are so right. I used to paint red flags green not this time He is truly showing up as an amazing man. He shows up always intentional being together for two and a half years Why she's sharing this is she was intentional by asking those critically important questions To determine if they were on the same page with one another and if you need some support with that There's a link right here to schedule a discovery call with me to see if working with the coach is right for you folks I'm here to help you recognize Okay, let's talk about the six stages of a relationship. This will help you quite a bit Please forgive me. I dropped this on the ground while I was talking now um Oh shoot, I got up the wrong one. Hold on a second So susan johnson who wrote the book Hold me tight Talks about the five stages of relationship. However, by the way, there's a copy of the book um, I just interviewed Uh taize gibson who wrote the book learning to love Highly there's a copy of the book as well And she added one to these six. Okay, so let me share this with you So within the susan johnson's work. She talks about the honeymoon phase the power struggle phase the stability phase The commitment phase and the bliss phase. Okay, or stages. Excuse me What taize gibson added was a sixth and this is actually number one The dating or vetting stage See, it used to be be when like-minded people got together. In other words, they already shared the same values They grew up in the same community. They um shared the same political views They had the same family and friends They immediately went to the honeymoon phase because the honeymoon phase is what bonds to people together See nowadays because we live in a variety of different tribes different ideologies different methodologies of how to live life We actually have to vet for compatibility Before we dive into the honeymoon phase But jonathan i'm just supposed to sit back to my feminine energy and let the man do all the work Why are you making me think so much? This is radically this is hard on me I'm being tongue-in-cheek. Yes Because being vetting dating and vetting is an intentional process. It's determined Are we really compatible with one another before we get on the honeymoon phase?  This is prior to henry v8 But it's so clear You know these kings all they're and if this was a true statement, but they're all driven sexually They're all driven by the honeymoon stage Because it didn't matter if you're compatible or not because women back in the day were strictly property in many cases Well, guess what you are no longer chattel. You are no longer property You have every right To vet for compatibility and just like the woman who wrote me this message. She was getting married She did that she vetted for compatibility. This is the conscious stage of dating first And then you can get into the You know the love bombing and all the euphoria of romance like see I've always said romance should be reserved for people who are in a relationship Not as an entry point to a relationship I'm going to repeat that romance should be reserved for people who are in a relationship Not as an entry point to a relationship because There is a deception of chemistry that could bond us to the wrong person That's why you got to read this book learning love Learning how how learning how you might bond yourself to the wrong person Because that's the other thing Men choose women oftentimes they choose the wrong person and you're choosing the wrong person as well This is why I said earlier timing Now let me repeat my words again Timing is merely the next evolution that is upon you But within timing the question I invite you all to explore is have you healed Have you gotten really solid on your why do you want a relationship? Have you gotten really solid on who's truly compatible with you? Because just like Neil Warren Clark who started e-harmony. It's either Neil Clark Warren or Neil Warren Clark. I forget he said Compatibility ignited with chemistry Is what turns a relationship on we are such we are a society that hyper focuses on the transactional and the chemistry piece and not enough in the vetting In the compatibility piece to determine if someone is worth choosing and when a man Clearly knows what he wants. He's very selective on who he chooses when men are unconscious. They're broken. They're emotionally constipated And technically there is no such thing as brokenness, but I I'm just sharing it in here They will choose the wrong person over and over again because they they don't know what's right for them And the person that accepts that person doesn't know what's right for them. This is just my observation that many humans experience So at the end of the day folks, I've said a lot of want want want want want Charlie Brown want want want want want what's the bottom line? Bottom line is folks get really clear on who you are as a person and who's truly compatible with you In addition the minute you engage in anything remotely Getting to know another human being be intentional ask deeper questions than the surface Ask deeper questions than the surface to determine compatibility Ask what does commitment look like for you? What does a relationship look like for you? Ask deeper questions to make sure you're on the same page And then be intentional in the process and invite the man Also to be intentional the process because here's the thing I know you all have been indoctrinated that the men are the leaders of the relationship and all you sit back ladies And are rather clueless Not all a lot. Okay But at the end of the day You are in charge of your relationship destiny and don't give that a power away to anyone Is this sinking in is this resonating? Please let me know. Please post a comment below I'd like to hear your thoughts if this did resonate with you Please go to my website Click the group coaching button so you can join my group where this video was shot for This is a group where you can have direct access to me on a regular basis. 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This is Jimmy Powers, and happy to be coming your way with another Grantland Rice story. Hey there, this is Jimmy Powers as a hunter and fisherman, a lad named Davy Crockett started a vogue that has grown bigger and bigger in America. For this reason, and because newspapers like circulation, fishing and hunting columns have become an important addition to any sports page of a big metropolitan daily. Well, Grantland Rice knew his share of hunting and fishing. As a native Tennessean, Davy Crockett State too, Granny knew something about rifles, lines and lures, but let's listen to him tell it. And so with a warm salute to the young and heart spirit of Grant Rice, I take up his narrative from the tumult and the shouting and read in first person. I believe that next to golf, a game I've been able to play and follow for nearly a half century, hunting takes second place in my affections for the outdoors. This despite the fact that every place I hunted, I established as a sanctuary. There always seemed to be more birds there when I left than when I came. Golf, hunting, yes, and fishing carry about all the entertainment or fun that one can take along the road. Fishing off East Hampton and Montauk was fine sport. I roamed the seas in that vicinity in the boats of Buddy Arnt and Fritz Ryan. Our favorite target was bluefish, a game hard fighting fish ranging from two to 10 pounds. I went for swordfish several times, but only had one good break under the direction of the late Dr. John Erdman, the surgeon. We got two that day by harpooning 350 and 450 pounders. A swordfish was ordinarily much too strong and big to monkey with in any direction by harpoon or by rod and line. Of course, as a pure fisherman, I am something less than Isaac Walton. As a rule, I'm perfectly willing to allow all the game fish of creation from rainbows to the giant tarpon to go their own finny way without any hook of mine gaffing their jaws. One summer, a good many years ago, I fished in Canada with a group including Max Foster, then famous as one of the Saturday evening posts stable of top authors. We had fished the Meramechi River for salmon, caught few, and on the return trip stopped over at Montreal. One of the Montreal papers sent a young writer around to interview Foster. Max was out. Answering the phone, I told the boy to come up and I posed as Foster. When he asked about fishing, I replied it was pretty good, but that we had had a difficult time getting enough worms. Foster naturally would never have been so plebeine as to use worms for bait. I also talked about poles instead of rods, rubber boots instead of waders, and so on. When the interview appeared in the paper, as attributed to him, Max wanted to kill me. Hunting with me always had to be divided three ways. Quail, duck, and wild turkey. Quail shooting is the most dependable diet, but when it comes to the big thrill, the wild turkey takes over. I have followed this great bird from 16 to 25 pounders in many states from Maryland to Georgia. Also in December of 1950, Red Smith and I hunted the gobbler on the King Ranch of Bob Clayburg, where Maxi Hirsch was our guide. The King Ranch turkeys seem to arrive in droves or herds, like Bleacher fans at the World Series, and push you aside to drink out of the swimming pool. For me, however, the gobbler's most fascinating habitat was at Bob Woodruff's place at Itchaway, Georgia. This is a spot of some 50,000 or more acres thick with quail, dove, and turkey. Down there I used to ride the only living bird dog mule, Edna Furber, who in one day's hunt pointed two quail covies. Aside from that King Ranch breed, the turkey is the most elusive of all birds, also the hardest to see. I've had them light on a pine or oak 20 feet away and then lost them completely. Due to their blending markings of black, gray, gold, crimson, and green, they become invisible phantoms.  He has a remarkable sight and can fly or run like a thief. On this particular hunt at Itchaway, my guide, Roy Carter and I had hidden in a deep swamp near a turkey feeding ground. We were there at 3.30 a.m. in the pitch dark and 15 minutes later it began to pour. The only noise you could hear was the far-off dismal calling of the morning dove. We waited two hours or more for dawn, hardly breathing. It was around six when the turkeys came in. My target glided in to perhaps 20 yards from me. I blasted neck high at him. He went up in the air like a rodeo bronc, then with a great thrashing he was gone. I floundered in to catch sight of his tail feathers disappearing behind another clump. I dived. It was like jumping into a thrashing machine. He all but beat me to death with his wings. At this point it was either the turkey or me. I used my shotgun stock like a bat. Finally, as I came out of there dragging my prize by his well-rung neck, I felt like Dempsey after he had finished off Firpo. I must add that Carter was a valuable second in this particular struggle. The bird, a 22 pounder mounted, strides rampant today over the fireplace in Woodruff s hunting lodge. Begging your bird this way seemed hard work. I was looking for an easier way. Once I was riding with Carter along a red clay road which always seemed more like home to me than any city street. Suddenly we saw five or six big turkeys in a group. There s one strange thing about a wild turkey, said Roy.  Let s try to land one from the car. This may not have been quite ethical, but at the moment it seemed a good idea. We started for the birds through a pine woods. They ran like a set of man of wars. Those woods were full of pine stumps, big pine limbs, heavy rocks, and every obstacle known to the roughest course. We were traveling at about 40 miles an hour and barely gaining on the turkeys. As I d get set to shoot through the car window, my head would hit the top of the roof or I d be crushed against the floor. Twice when we drew alongside I was thrown against the front seat and half stunned. I finally knocked a turkey over and Ray rounded him up, but I was a wreck for a week.  I finally decided there was no easy way to find or kill a wild turkey. They are as different from the tame variety as a tiger is from an angora cat. Bob Woodruff is an ideal host where an invitation to the nation s leaders always carries an appeal. I recall one morning before daybreak I came out the front door starting on a turkey hunt. A huge form rose up in the darkness and started my way. I didn t feel any too happy until he sat down before me and extended his right paw in welcome. It happened to be a Labrador retriever king-sized. He had the old Woodruff spirit. The rural life of Georgia can be magnificent and varied. In addition to itch away, I have often dropped in to see an old friend, Kason Callaway at Hamilton in the central western part of the state. Son of the late Fuller E. Callaway senior who organized the now sprawling Callaway mills, Kason after running the textile side of the family interest for years, has more recently devoted his energies to farming his vast acreage near Hamilton. He set out to prove on a vast scale farm that cotton wasn t all that Georgia could raise, and he proved it both with cattle as well as foodstuffs.  Then he threw in one of the most attractive golf courses I ve seen, plus a few covered barges or boats for his lake that is swarming with fish. Then he invited the public to come in and enjoy it. Kason and Virginia, his very good looking wife, think nothing of having 400 or 500 guests on stated occasions. It was in December 1950 that Red Smith and I hunted the Wild Gobbler on the King Ranch in South Texas, ancestral home of Assault and Stymie, and the spawning ground for the King Ranch thoroughbreds with Bob Clayburg at the helm and his trainer Maxi Hirsch in charge. The King Ranch turkeys seem to arrive in droves. These birds indulge in traffic jams of 40,000 birds in one flock. But the rules down there were different. You had to use a .22 caliber rifle and shoot only at the head. As I wasn t any too good with a shotgun at 10 paces, this put a definite kink into my act. I might add that this wrinkle didn t help establish Red Smith as a pioneer gunman either. However, Red did land a big brood of a gobbler by creasing him across the Sacroiliac. This particular safari seemed to have most everything that Hemingway ever found in Africa except a couple of plane crashes. At the end, Red was concentrating on armadillos and peccaries, wild pigs with the toughest hide, the fiercest snout, and the meanest disposition imaginable. We hunted those dead-end porkers from a hunting car. The first time we got close enough to shoot, Hirsch, a comedian when he s not gunning for a steak race, invited me to shoot. I bracketed the porker. However, when I found that a peccary invariably charges back at you, I had no further interest in him. We also encountered a swarm of deer, all beauties, one great whitetail with a tremendous rack of horns, invited me to shoot him. I raised my gun, but couldn t squeeze the trigger. They called me a sissy. It s not exactly that, I said. It s just that I never shoot a deer until he pulls a knife on me first. Well, that s it for today. Now this is Jimmy Powers transcribed saying, So long until next time.


Okay, welcome to another edition of Hawaiian Uniform. I'm Calvin Griffin, your host, and thanks for tuning in. And for those of you who may not have seen the program before, here we talk about different issues concerning the military and also veterans and how it interacts with the community. Today, I have two special guests. One is Caroline Galouyou, okay, and also Rene Patakio, right? Patasio. Okay. Before we get into our conversation, one or two things I want to put out. If you're not familiar, they have the Oahu Veterans Council, or center, land in Foster Village, and there's a lot of good things going on down there with different programs. One is that on the 19th of July, there is a hep C screening, so you might want to go down and check it out. If you have any questions about what's going on with them, you can call 422-4000 and talk to Claire Levinson, and she'll give you an update on what's happening down there. Also there's been a news release at FEMA, it will be going door to door to let people know about, I guess, the insurance. If you suffered anything with the rains or whatever, they'll be interviewing people. So if somebody knocks on your door, you know, it might be them, but you can also call the cops and find out. That's it. Okay. At this point, Ms. Galouyou, may I call you Caroline? Oh, please. Please, please. Okay. And may I call you Rene? Of course. Well, not the same. Okay. Well, Caroline, the organization you're with, could you tell us a little bit about that? Yes. And one of the things you deal with. Well, also, before I do that, I want to tell you, my husband retired after 23 years in the Air Force, so we have a real connection here. Our organization, which my husband is the treasurer for, what is he? He's one of those. And it's Rainbow Family 808. And we stand up and advocate and support all families, meaning we're inclusive. We the people means everyone. And so when we started about four years ago, I'd already been working with Disadvantaged Youth and with another organization. And this one came up because of the homeless teens on the street. And that really touched me. While in the world, would parents allow their kids to be out on the street with no support? And so our focus, even though we do advocate for all families, our focus right now is the youth, because in the state of Hawaii, there is no law that gives them the right to check into a shelter. And so every time a new shelter opens, I get angry, because I know that the kids are still going to be out there on the street. And the best, our small organization, where 501C3 can do, is provide fresh vegetables, fresh fruits and dairy for a whole week. We take it down once a week to Yoh, which is youth outreach in Waikiki. And our kids are very smart. They can get there from any part of the island. And they have a shower or whatnot. That's basically what we do. So this next January, we're going to go back to the legislature, change those bills. They're the ones that make the laws. And so they have to change their laws, so it allows the kids to check it. OK. Question I have. We talked offline when I first met you. The military dependents. There we have people who are the parents of station over here.  This is the first time I heard about this. How widespread is it? And what is the military doing to go ahead and address this issue? Or, you know, what's happening? Well, we haven't taken it to the military. One of the things was most of the times in the military, I remember, the military member doesn't want people in his home business. So the military, it has not been addressed to them as far as I know. How I came back to it was a couple of weeks ago. I was on base at. What are they? I'm an old timer, so I was on Hickam. I was a joint, but it was a joint forces Pearl Harbor Hickam event on Hickam, and it was the pride of pride event. Listening to those young sailors and Air Force and Army and Marines that came, some of them talked about joining the military to get away from home environments, meaning that they were either being abused, it can be medical, physical, either because they're gay, because across the board, across the nation, and it works out here in Hawaii, 40 percent of all homeless youth are LGBT. And I'm just, see, I was almost in tears through the whole presentation because I didn't, you know, hearing what some of them had come from, that they come to the military to get away from abuse. If they're gay, then it's not just abuse in the family. It can be abuse in the community. And we already know that we have so many documented cases here in Hawaii. But there is that percentage. So whatever the percentage of military we have, which is a large percent, because we have Coast Guard as well on this main island, but then you also have them in varying degrees on all the other islands as well. So we cannot, and I really believe that that's, but the kids don't want to tell you when they're in these. They're they're hiding. Yeah, I don't know. So I'm going to have to do a little bit more research on that. I hope I didn't come into this with a false impression that I had all the answers. But I have wanted to get on bases. And I'm just retired now. So I have no really not too much standing other than I can go to the commissary. And if I wanted to use the medical and whatnot. But I would like to go to the the spouses clubs. That's something that's changed since I retired in 90. And so now we have spouses clubs. I'd like to come and just talk to them about it because not everyone lives on base. But there's enough people that live on base that will notice all of a sudden a family member is missing. We have to and nobody wants to ask because we don't know. Yeah, well, there's a lot of things that go on and within the military community. Some of the things we talk about around the program. Yeah, it's a very close knit. There's a lot of things that happen that the public is not aware of, you know, in the persona that everything's a hunky dory within the military community, which is not necessarily so because I think with some of the my opinion or what I see here is if there's any runaways that's from the military community, it may not have to do with sexual orientation. They say, OK, but what it may also have to do is with the stresses that a lot of these families are under with the multiple deployments, things of that nature. Then, you know, the mom or dad's are deployed. All these things come up. It's like, OK, I got to get out of here or whatever it is. There may not be that mechanism in place within the military community to address what's going on with a lot of the younger people going through. A lot of people don't realize and I brought this up in the past programs before. A couple of years ago, we lost more dependence by suicide here in the state of Hawaii than we lost troops in combat. And that's another thing that wasn't talked about. You know, I'm quite sure Renee is where, you know, a lot of things that goes on. But the thing is it has to be addressed. OK, even if, yeah, even if you haven't, you know, had the opportunity to do so, this is something I believe is so important that what I'm going to do, as with the program here, we will contact the military and we will allow them or ask them to give a response. OK, because the main thing we try we're going to do here in the program is give out information, not misinformation. That's right. Things is going to help people out. And, you know, that's the reason why I wanted to invite you to come on the program to broach this subject, because again, I was hopefully unaware of what was going on. And I think with a lot of people, you know. So anyhow, Renee, what are you familiar with or have any input on this? I'm not quite familiar with this issues, because I really might just focus now on helping veterans. Yeah. I know they exist. And I know there are support groups out there. Yeah. You might want to contact a family support center or something. There might be some help you can get there, because that's what they're there for, especially for military families. The other thing I want to follow up on is you mentioned that when these young people out on the streets, the day, what's the danger period? 24 hours, 48 hours before they get sucked in and so forth? They will be encountering drugs. They will be encountering sex trafficking. And so we really have to have people out there. And Yoh does that at night, because they only do that. It's just a drop-in center, and it's only open four days a week. That's all the money that they have. They're underneath the Waikiki Health Center. And so it's one program fighting amongst all the other programs, for money, for whatever. And so we have helped them, because we've changed their diets, you know, with the fresh fruits and vegetables. They couldn't get them before, they're getting that. So we give them a lot of things that they don't. And sometimes I can get certain things not only at Costco. Costco's my big, big person, because I can get lots of things for a good price. So I'm a penny pincher, I have to, because all of our money is donated from individuals. We don't have any grants, we haven't gone that route, because we're just, you know, we're sort of small. But look at four years, never missing one week. Yeah, there's another thing that I'll briefly mention is. Tell me about the different organizations out there that's helping people in many different ways. I'm surprised to find that there are thousands of non-profits over here. And a lot of them have redundant systems where they're not connecting the dots, talking to one another about what the, how to alleviate or, you know, some of these problems that's going on. It's like everybody got their own thing, like say I'm going to do my thing. I don't care what you do, but they may be doing the same thing. The end thing that we need to be thinking about, how it impacts the community, those who need to be helped. And I don't see that happening, like say for the large part, when you have thousands of non-profits over here on the island or the state this small, you know, something's not right here, you know. And I think the questions need to be asked by those individuals who are handling these different organizations. What is your purpose? What is your mission statement?  And I think that really needs to be, I mean, if we want to come up with some kind of code and answer to some of these problems, we need to talk about this in an open and honest way in a forum. The other thing that you mentioned before with some of the kids, they can't be signed and they can't go into the shelters. They can't sign out. And that's a law. And there's a pushback from some of the legislators? Well, it's a pushback also from the communities because one of the people at the legislator said to me in a closed door, I think the Catholic Church needs to step up to the plate because they have a large number of kids on the street that come because of religious things. You, women can't get pregnant if they're not married. So if a young girl gets pregnant and they go, I'm sorry, not in my church, not in my home. And so there they are out on the street at their most vulnerable, you know? And so I did, and there still is, one organization, it's a program run by the legislature and they have both senators and representatives on it. It's called the Kakey Caucus. But when we go to the Kakey Caucus, we're voling for attention to get our bills passed like I want a bill to open up for the kids. And others want, and see a lot of the agencies are funded by state and federal programs.  We need to work a little bit more together because, but the money that I've been drawing, or we've been drawing for over four years, is from individuals that either have been in that position they know, and I also, because I am a social worker, I have my master's in social work, I have reached out into other areas and the Navy called me many years ago because they had a sailor that had been accused of inappropriate behavior with another sailor. All right, speaking of appropriatenesses, we have to take a short break. We'll come back, didn't mean to interrupt you mid-sentence. We'll finish up on that then I want to get Rene as far as catch up on what he's doing. Okay, we're gonna take a short break, come back, this is Hawaii Uniform, I'm Calvin Griffin, stay tuned. 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So please try and join me one o'clock on a Monday afternoon to Think Tech Hawaii's Research in Manoa. And see you then. Okay, welcome back to Hawaii Uniform. And again, we're in the conversation about what's happening with the in-military community. Carolyn is updating us on what's happening with the homeless situation and some other things also. And also again, Brene, you came back to join us. Brene, continue, but Brene, how's things going with you?  You're trying to do things to help people alleviate or address PTSD, all these things. Let our viewers know what you're doing and how it's going. Good, thank you. Actually, I hosted a panel of psychologists, artists, doctors at our last month's Vietnam Veterans of America chapter 858 meeting and attended by the organization members in which they filled out some questions about how we could help people with PTSD or any type of trauma that is causing them pain, emotionally, physically, whatever. And it turned out very good. And there are people out there who are willing to take patients or clients, if you may call them, to help them with their program. The Veterans Choice Program is what we are trying to tap into in which veterans have the option to choose a provider that is not necessarily available in the Veterans Administration Program, so they can go there and get the help that they need if they're not satisfied with what is going on in their current situation. So that program is available. It is highly encouraged, especially for our chapter, because sometimes we know and you know that VA is not a perfect place for some people. And with all the issues that we have with the VA in the past, some people get a little bit kinda, they tend to shy away from the VA. So they offer that program, so they have the option to go to a provider that can provide them the help that they need, and that's what we do. Well, it seems to be, no matter what issue we're talking about lately, homelessness, veteran situations, or whatever, it seems to be a problem where there is a disconnect. We're talking in this case about the VA, we know there's problems with that, all right? Of course, we're familiar with the number, I mean, the number of suicides, especially among veterans that are not being talked about as being underreported. We have roughly about 120,000 vets give or take over here. And the thing is, with these different programs in place, oh, that's well and good. But there are times where, systemically, there's some problems that are not being addressed on the people or the personnel are not handling it in the right way.  This is what we need more of. And I believe there are more people out there that want to get involved. But from what I'm hearing in a lot of cases, even if you want to volunteer, you want to do something that benefits whatever issue it is. Then you got the bureaucratic mess, we got people who tell you, well, okay, well, I know you're good hearted and everything else. But the thing is, you can't do that, all right? We have certain people, we have designated spots where these people can go to to find the help that they need. We don't need your help, all right? It's nice that you care, but stay away, all right? But we need to break through that on all levels because if we really want to go ahead and do something that's going to be worthwhile for the community, all the different issues we're talking about, we need to get back to the grass which we need to allow these people, whoever they are, and they're sincere in doing something, to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. And I think that on too many levels, I keep stressing this over and over again, we need to go ahead and do that. So, I'm gonna let you continue out of the way, I'll get off my soapbox. Yeah. You know, there are a lot of people who are still not comfortable going to the system. That's why we're out there really trying to put the word out that, hey, you don't have to deal it yourself. You don't have to go to the VA if you don't want to. That's why this option is available. And give it a tie. I mean, there are plenty of holistic ways of getting the treatment or healing that they need. It doesn't have to be just the VA way. And I've seen yoga, I've seen Pilates, I've seen meditation, I've seen many different modalities that could really help people with their pain. Yeah. Yeah, and that's what we're trying to promote. Caroline's saying I thought this at you.  Speed bumps. Well, yes. I keep getting people wanting to help out with us when we go to yoga. They have to go through training because this is for the safety of the kids to make sure that the people that are there are vetted, have no back. They do a fingerprint test and all that because you also have some predators out there that like to get in that way. So we have to be very careful. So I just return them over to yo and have, I said, but if you're going to be a volunteer, you have to take the training. You have to, you know, you have to, you know. And that's just the rules. One of the things I was gonna, my husband is a veteran and he was invited to go to a veteran's coffee group out in Kapolei. They have one. And so I was thinking that would be one way for people to get, to get involved for you. Because, and when he went, he never got to sit with the guys. He had to go through, they wanted to make sure he was a vet. They wanted to make sure, you know, what his background was and whatnot. But he's going to start going to them because we met someone in a restaurant and they were sitting at the next table. So that's other ways people can get help without going to the big pink lady on the hill. Yeah. The same way, you know, we see how these things intertwined. Yes. Right now I want to ask you, what you're trying to do to help the veterans out? Does it come up sometime, the subject matter, like say, of whoever the individual is, they're dependent. Some of the problems they may be having are issues that, you know, are affecting them or delaying some of the positive responses to some of the treatments. Sometimes people, especially people with PTSD, are very close of divulging that information or admitting that they have PTSD. So sometimes it takes time to really build that trust for them to crack open. That's why you need to build that relationship.  Is there anything called generational PTSD? Or again, we have like, say a lot of things that's going on within the families, whoever the family, the military members, they're going through it and therefore that's in a certain way being passed. So I don't know if there's a term or a terminology for it, but of course, distress is, you know, do you notice any of that or are some of the children that you're running to, do they divulge anything like that? That's just one of the reason why they may be out there in the streets or left the military environment. I have not heard, could be, but trauma could be a constant, anything, like in the military, it's usually related to something that is traumatic, especially when people go to war, come back, and they're not the same, because the experience they had in the war zone is really just traumatic for them to, that sometimes they hang onto it themselves. What I found when we were in the military that there are these stressors, depending on whatever the military member is involved in, and one of our friends, he caused stress within his family because he was just a really angry person, and his children couldn't eat a meal. They never knew when he was going to come in. He ended up having a girlfriend somewhere else. That's why they never knew when he was coming for dinner. And the kids would go to sit down to eat and they were always on guard. If dad comes in, he's gonna throw a fit and disrupt dinner and maybe throw dishes at people and those kids would really shake. And I didn't know this because we were church friends and then they kept coming over and our house has always been an open house. And come over and have dinner. Hey, we're having such and such. Do you wanna have it with us and come over? And she told me after many months, almost a year, of I was going, don't, they wanna go home.  That ends up being generational because of what he did to them. They had nervous stomachs. They were having medical problems, but the military didn't wanna look at that because and he had told her, do not take this to the doctors because they're gonna look at me. Yeah, I can understand. See, so that happens. Or the poor military comes back and there's so many stressors. We could spend how many days talking about stressors from those in the military. Yeah, you know. Okay, we're getting down to the wire, but the one thing as far as this particular issue, yeah, I know it's difficult if there's certain things in time and place on how to deal in the military. But once the question is out there, or it begs to be answered, we need to do something about it. That's right. We got about 45 seconds anyhow. Renee, you get 10 seconds or 15 seconds. You wanna give out any information or follow up on it? Yes, actually, it can call me. My number is<PHONE_NUMBER>. I do all kinds of meditation, active, guided, or silent meditation, or even do calligraphy. But mostly meditation to really just calm the mind because when you quiet the mind, the body rests and gets healed. Great, okay. We're gonna do a follow up, and then maybe sometime in the future, you'll have a program here on the station. Caroline, again, I think we're down to 15 seconds, but... Call me, my phone number's in the book. Well, there aren't any books anymore. 779-9078. And if you have questions about not seeing a child in a family next door, across the street, in your room, let us know because these families need to be re... If there is a value of saving the family, regardless of whether they're LGBT or not, there's all kinds of reasons that they're out in the street. Okay, in about three seconds that we have left, I wanna thank both of you for coming on the program. Thank you for tuning in. We'll do a follow up, especially about the military thing. And God bless until that time.


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Hello everyone, welcome to this session on timers, PLC timers. So at the end of the session you will be able to examine symbols, basic usage and types of timers which you can use in PLC programming. You will be also able to write simple ladder run diagrams with pulse timers for basic operations. So let us learn about the timers, what are the timers. So timers are normally used to control a task with reference to time. Timers counts seconds or fraction of seconds using the internal CPU clock. These timers are already predefined as a standard function blocks in ISE 61131 part 3 standard. So a symbol is shown. Here you will see a typical timer comes with two inputs with two outputs. Multiple timers can be linked together which is also called as a cascaded together to get larger delays. Timers are able to change the state of Boolean addresses at a desired time after some criteria has been made. Timers allows multitude of operations in a control circuit to be automatically started and stopped at different time intervals. So depending upon your automation you can use these timers for your task control. Parameters of timers used in a circuit can be increased or decreased through the use of programming changes rather than wiring changes. So in old days you will find that there are some mechanical and electrical timers were available for controlling the process automations. So as compared to them these timers which are available in PLCs are easily programmable. Accuracy and repeatability of the timers are extremely high because timer delays are generated in the PLC processors. We already know that PLCs are designed with the help of different microcontrollers or microprocessors. So the features which that microcontroller or microprocessor provides they are available in the PLCs also. So one of the features is the timer which we already know that we have different timers in the microcontrollers. Let us learn about the timer inputs. So here on this function block you will see that there are two inputs represented with IN and PT names. So in when this input changes its state the timer starts counting towards the preset time. The data type associated with this IN input is Boolean means you are expecting here either 0 or 1. Second input is the PT. PT stands for preset time. So this preset timer value indicates the desired delay which you want in your operation. The data type associated with this PT is time means you have to mention the desired delay in terms of seconds. Timer outputs so here you have two outputs Q shows whether the time has elapsed or not the data type associated with this Q is Boolean means you are expecting either 0 or 1 on this line. Second output is the ET. ET stands for elapsed time. So this ET shows the time still remaining that is the time that has elapsed since the timer was activated. Timer outputs can be checked at any point in the program are always updated with the current values of the physical timer running in the background. There are two approaches we can use these timers in the ladder diagram programming or in any other programming interface. First approach you can consider the timers like relays with coils. So here you will see that in a first run a timer is shown as a relay coil symbol. When these coils gets energized the results in the closure or opening of the contacts after some preset time. So here you will see that in the second run a timer contact is shown this timer contact is dependent contact it depends on the status of this timer. When this timer contacts gets activated because of this timer you will get your output energized. So this is the first approach. In the second approach you can consider timers as a delay block means you can insert the timer in a rung as shown in this figure. What this timer does it adds a delay because of that signal in the rung from reaching the output gets delayed. So this is the second approach which you can apply for using the timer in your simple ladder runs. Let us go through the timer types these are the basic timers available in any small PLCs. First one is the pulse timer second is the on delay timer and third one is the off delay timer. Let us learn more about the pulse timer in this particular session. So pulse timers you can use as a pulse generator they generates a pulse of fixed duration and the duration of that pulse is Pt that is defined by the preset time. You will get this pulse at the output queue on the rising age of the input applied. So here the function block shows how a typical pulse timer looks like. So here you have two inputs in and Pt and two outputs Q and Et. Let us understand the operation of pulse timer with the help of waveforms. So output state of a pulse timer changes from false to true when the input changes from false to true that is on the rising age of the input. So here at a t0 instant you will see that input changed from 0 to 1. At the same time you will see that timer output Q also changed from 0 to 1. And the output will remain true for the preset time Pt. So here you will see that this output remain true up to t0 plus Pt. So the pulse width of this Q at this particular instant is Pt duration. For the output state to change from false to true the input rising ages must be apart from at least as long as the preset time. So here at t2 instant you will see that input changed from 0 to 1. At the same time output also changed from 0 to 1. And timer started from incrementing from 0 towards Pt. So Et value you will see that is incrementing from 0 onwards towards Pt. But at t3 you will see that input again changed from 0 to 1. Now the difference between t3 and t2 is less than Pt. And because of this this change at t3 will not be reflected on your Q output. Meaning this t3 input change at t3 is missed by your PLC. So because of that the difference between two rising ages of the input must be Pt time apart. So when your input changes from 1 to 0 you will see that Et also resets to 0. So at the time instant t1 and t5 you will see that Et resets to 0. So when the duration of Pt is reached that is Et becomes Pt and the signal state at input is false Et output resets. So here at t1 then t2 plus Pt and at t5 you will see that Et resets to 0. So this is a typical pulse timer symbol available in an open PLC editor under standard function block library. Let us solve one example. Let us develop a ladder diagram for a system that will run a motor for a predefined fixed length of time when the input switch is activated. You can take some time and you can develop a ladder diagram for this particular problem. So this is the solution you will see here a rung is shown in which a switch is used along with the motor and a timer is inserted between them. So let us understand the working of this particular solution. So here at t0 instant switch changed from 0 to 1 it will turn the motor on immediately. At the same time timer also starts with Pt is equal to 10 seconds. So at t1 you will see that Q will reset as Et becomes Pt. So at t1 instant you will see that motor stopped running. So this is the solution for this particular example. These are the references you can refer for the further reading. Thank you.