Welcome to the slap it a base fan dual Sunday recap. Let's go boys. How are you feeling today? Feeling great. It was, it was. Feeling much better now that I'm talking with you, Josh. Oh, hey, Jay. Yeah. Oh, hey, Jay. I didn't realize you were down there. Hello. Oh, me neither. I didn't realize I was down here either. Well, my name is Josh. You can find me on Twitter at FYF, Josh. Hi, Josh. I am joined by my beautiful friends today, J.L. Garofalo. How are you doing, J.L.? You find him at Twitter at FYF, John Luke. Let's go. Let's go. That's where you can find me. And then we have Jay. We have Jay at G-MenJ on Twitter. How are you feeling?  Like, you just disappoint me. We have Jay. We also got Jay. We have him too. And that's pretty much how I feel about Joe Judge and Dave Gettelman. So I'm very close to changing my handle. So we'll see what happens there. If they bring back Dave Gettelman, my handle will no longer be G-MenJ. It'll just be Jay. Just Jay. If you can get it, that'll be great. Whoever took off the screen, I can't share it for the game tonight. All right, perfect. So we want to just talk about real quickly the game tonight. The Los Angeles Chargers do play the Las Vegas Reddiers tonight. The Los Angeles Chargers are three point favorites according to the Fandals Sportsbook. That makes the Raiders three point underdogs. It's a 48 and a half point over under. And you know what? I think that the game will end up being 27 to 23 with the Chargers coming out on top. That makes it a 50 point game. So if you had to make me choose, it's close. It's a 48 and a half point over under. I would take the over. What do you guys think about that? What was the other over under? 48 and a half points. I think it's going to be 27 to 23. I think it's going to be 0-0 with a record setting number of fields. So they both make the one. I didn't bring that up. They didn't even talk about that. Would that be score, Gami? That's had to have happened before, right? 0-0? No? I don't know. End of game, I don't think so. I don't think so. No, it's never happened. That would be crazy. I don't think so. I really don't think so. That would be crazy. I know there's a game a year that goes to half time 0-0. So like. OK. All right. Well, I'll take the over. I'll take the over and 48 and a half. I think that's a pretty good lineup. I'm with you guys. I think the Chargers win a close one. And I do I do expect a lot of fireworks tonight. So it's Chargers minus 3J. Let me put you on the spot. Would you take the Chargers or the Raiders plus 3? I think the Chargers minus 3. I think they pull it off. OK, I'll take the Raiders. All right. All right. So we we got you want to put on the board? I don't want to put on the board. I don't want to put on the board. Come on. I don't want to put on the board. All right. We're going to have a noise bet. Come on. Come on. We are going to find something to put on the board tonight. Simon in the chat saying he has a prediction. He thinks it's going to be Chargers Chargers 31 Raiders 21. So he's taking that over. And he is taking the Chargers minus 3 it looks like. And he's a lot more confident than us. I want to change that. But we have a lot of great people in the chat here. We have Albert. What's up, Albert? The Chargers and the Raiders should tie. So they both make the playoffs. They're division rivals. It's like, man, could you imagine it's Sunday night football? Like, could you imagine like America sitting down waiting to enjoy their Sunday night football game and it just kneels. Yeah, the NFL would be outraged. They would be outraged, right? It would be so fun. Like the anticipation. Like everybody would hear about it. And then everybody's turning on the game. Like, are they actually going to do with the whole game? Then the whole crowd cheering every time there's a kneel. I think he'd be excited. He's got to look at it to the right. It's like a strategy, right? It's a strategy. Oh, it is, though.  But you're right, Josh. I feel like the NFL would be pissed. Like the league would be pissed. Oh, yeah. Is that a collusion somehow? That could be. There's got to be something in the ruleback that says like two teams can't like communicate to like have us like an out. I don't know. Like, you know, right? Communicate. Yeah. I feel like you could do like a hey, like have a good game. Like they couldn't just let you let every play. Right. Yeah. But I think they talked about it and Ian Rappapour. I think it was him I saw an interview saying that he talked to somebody on one of the teams and they were basically saying that if there was that gentleman's agreement, what's to keep one of the one of the teams from breaking it and just throwing a long touchdown. Oh, well, we got the ball with two minutes left. We're playing all game. Oh, oops. Right. Oopsie doopsie. So yeah, I think it's it would be dumb. It's not going to happen like right. It's not going to happen. Probably not. Probably not. But so I mean, I expect a good game, though, when it comes down to it tonight, both these teams, it's still they have to play all seeding on the line. So it's not absolutely for nothing. So I hope it's a good game. I expect a good game. You guys ready to get into the actual games that happened today so far? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So the first game we're going to go to here. Let me let me just hunt this one down real fast, guys. We got Cincinnati and Cleveland. All right. Cincinnati and Cleveland. Jay, how does game make you feel? How did this game make you feel? Well, not too much because honestly, it was a battle of the backups. They're the only starters that really played. Jamar Chase got in there just enough to break the Cincinnati Bengals season. Single season receiving yards record, which there's going to be a lot of conversation with all these records being broken, the extra game. Did they really break it, blah, blah, blah. But congratulations to him. He's had one heck of a rookie season. I mean, Brandon Allen and Case Keenan were the starting quarterbacks. Nick Chubb was in there a little bit. So there's really not much to talk about actual production on the game. So I'm thinking let's look at both of these teams from a dynasty aspect. Joe Burrow, he did not play, resting up for the playoffs. They were locked into the playoffs. Just let's go right at it. Let's see where with his fantastic finish to the season, where for all of us where he ranks from a dynasty standpoint in the quarterback ranking. So at least for me and tell me if I'm wrong, there's three guys that I don't think there's any argument you can make for Joe Burrow over. That'll be Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray. You guys agree there? Yes. Okay, so the next ones, although they're gonna be tough, I think you can at least make an argument for Joe Burrow. So JL will start with you. From a dynasty aspect, you're in a dynasty draft start up right now. Joe Burrow or Justin Hermann? Joe Burrow. Josh? I would take Justin Herbert. I'm gonna go with JL. And I think that at least for me, the thing is here, you know, their talent, it's really, you know, splitting hairs. It's very, very close. But I like Joe Burrow's weapons better. They're younger, you know, Keenan Allen is 29 years old. Mike Williams is a free agent who knows if he's gonna come back. So when it's that close, you know, look at the weapons that Burrow has with Chase, with T Higgins, Tyler Boyd. I think Eckler and Mixon are a wash. So that's the tiebreaker for me. Josh, why do you go Herbert over Burrow? It's really just what I've seen on the field so far in their career. I know Joe Burrow, I mean, maybe, and this is a nod to Burrow a little bit, but coming in the season, I think a lot of people forget he was coming off a pretty horrific knee injury from last season. A lot of people were like, is he even gonna be ready for the start of the season? He came out and I think at the beginning of the season, he did look a little timid, right? But what can we complain about the last few weeks? He won people fantasy football championship. The reason that belt is sitting right there, so I can't complain too much. I'm a little biased. Exactly, he's still young. They're both still young, but I actually think that Justin Herbert has still proven a little bit more on the football field to me. He's a little bit more of a runner. I just been a little bit more impressed with Justin Herbert overall. That's fair. Super close. Yeah, absolutely. Next one, this one's gonna hit home for you guys. Lamar Jackson for Joe Burrow. That's a great one. Lamar Jackson for me. So this is the first season we've seen Lamar Jackson. Actually, people have been saying it his entire career. They're like, oh, but he's gonna get injured. He's gonna get injured. It's not fair because he got injured on a play that wasn't like a design runner or anything. It was scrambling out of the pocket a little bit, but it was an injury that any quarterback in the NFL could have, including Tom Brady who doesn't run at all. So I'm gonna take Lamar Jackson still, but they are super close. They're neck and neck for me. The rushing ups that Lamar Jackson and what we've seen in the past, I'm still gonna go for more. And I expect better things for the Ravens in future seasons than what we saw this season. Yeah, this one is extremely tough. And honestly, before we got on the show, I was fully expecting to say Joe Burrow, but the more I sit and think about it, I still slightly lean Lamar Jackson. Josh, you said it right because of that rushing upside. I will say I'm a little concerned with this is two seasons in a row that, he had that MVP season and granted he's had those flashes, but he hasn't had that consistent elite production that he had two seasons ago. So I wanna see that before, I put him back into that top class with the Josh Allens, the Patrick Holmes. But again, this is just splitting hairs between some guys. Dak Prescott or Joe Burrow? That's where I'll draw my line. I'll actually go Joe Burrow over Dak Prescott. He's got the age, I think they're kind of in similar situations where Dak Prescott is coming off the horrific leg injury, kind of similar to Joe Burrow. So Dak Prescott is not running as much as well. He's getting an improved defense. I think Joe Burrow, they both have very good weapons, but I'll go Joe Burrow here. Yeah, this one's very close for me. I will go Joe Burrow just because of the age. That's a deal breaker for me or a tie breaker. Sorry, and I'm a deal breaker. And this one is contingent on him being the starter going into next year, but let's assume that Jimmy Garoppolo is gone, Trey Lance or Joe Burrow. And for the record, I'm Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, it's Joe Burrow, yeah, Joe Burrow. And Dak over Joe Burrow as well. I mean, over Trey Lance. Okay, that's literally the opposite of what you just said. Dak kind of ends the tier for me, and then Trey Lance kind of begins a new tier. Okay. Yeah, absolutely.  Honestly, I would put Dak a little below those guys simply because of age and, you know, and upside. So let's go to the other side of the ball. Before we go on to the next side of the ball, we got Simon here saying handsome boys.  Stop it, you're handsome. My mom, you're saying happy Sunday, quiet up and boo. Hi Jails mom. Hi mom. And Simon saying fireworks in the stadium or are you just expecting them in general? I think that's for Jay because he said he's expecting fireworks. Both. And Gen X Civic saying rip, quandary, digs. Yes, I believe he got a pretty bad injury today. Yeah, that's a shame. And Albert in here saying 49ers just tied up the game.  I love it. What a game. I love a good game. Excited to go over that one. And Simon said a badminton team just got kicked out of the Olympics for throwing matches. Losing was better for them than winning for the following rounds. Wow.  And then Mr. Scamper saying Davis Mills or Trey Lance. Ooh. Ooh. Trey Lance. And it's not really even close. I will say Davis Mills has definitely made things interesting. If you know, if you got him late in a rookie draft, you know, he's worth hanging on to. Hopefully the Texans do the right thing with all the holes that they have. You know, go with, you know, build around him. And you know, if he's not your quarterback of the future, drafting the following year. Yeah. Especially a super flex league. Yeah. Yeah, specifically. Super flex. One quarterback, you're really not that interesting. Yeah, he doesn't have a ton of value. My mind automatically goes to super flex because that's what I played. Oh, no, no, I understand. I'm, I'm with you. We, we got to get the people, the people got to know about super flex, super flex is the way of the future. Let's go. Way of the future. All right. Anything else on that Cincinnati Cleveland game, Jay? Not really, there's not much to talk about with the, you know, the backups pretty much playing the whole game. Yeah. No, I before we go on to the next one. Quick reminder, if you're watching this, you haven't already hit that like button. If you're on YouTube, make sure you subscribe as well to FanDuel. They got tons of content creators constantly putting out great content. And if you're on Twitch, hit that follow button. Hit that follow button because FanDuel is also putting out content on Twitch, find them on any platform. Couldn't put in out great content, talking sports. It's great. And now they're, they're actually live in New York, state of New York. You can go to FanDuel Sportsbook. I cannot wait until that's Maryland. I cannot wait until we can announce it's Maryland. The same thing for North Carolina. I was going to say the same. Our buddy, Jeff Asley, who, happy birthday Jeff. He was on the FanDuel show with us Friday night.  Hopefully it comes to North Carolina soon. That's gotta be so much fun. I'm jealous, but all you folks in New York get to now go to FanDuel Sportsbook, place your bets. It's super fun. I'm jealous. I'm gonna come up to New York. Do it. It's worth it. Do it. All right, let's move on to our next game. We had the Baltimore Ravens play against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm the Baltimore Ravens fan. So obviously I'm a little bit disappointed. The Ravens needed to win this game, have the Jaguars win, also have the Patriots win, and then have the Raiders win. Fortunately, it doesn't really matter. The Steelers are gonna win. The Steelers are rooting for the Raiders to win so they can get in the playoffs themselves. So Pittsburgh came into this game as three point underdogs actually. We were in Baltimore and Baltimore was up. So Pittsburgh, it was a three point spread. That's what it ended up being. The Pittsburgh Steelers won 16-13. It was a 41 point over under. The total of the game was 29 points of that under hit. Looking at the game, this was Ben Roffelsberger's last game. Goodbye, Ben. You know, again, as a Ravens fan watching them play Ben Roffelsberger over the years, got it given out to Ben. He's probably a Hall of Fame quarterback in my mind. Probably, yeah. Two Super Bowls. Two Super Bowls. Yeah. Didn't have the best game in the world. Wasn't he the youngest? Let's see if he gets in the playoffs. Youngest key to be into a Super Bowl? Yeah, I think you're right. I only know that because of our games. Yeah. On the Pittsburgh Steelers side of the ball, we're going to take this to a dynasty context. I really want to talk about Chase Claypool.  He's six-four. He's a very big guy. We do not know who the quarterback will be for the Steelers next year. Ben Roffelsberger's already told us he's not going to be there. Had plans on retiring. So let's talk about Chase Claypool's dynasty value. Not knowing who the quarterback for the Steelers will be, like I said, does his long-term value rise or fall going forward without Ben? Jay, what do you think? Right now it is falling. I think if he gets a quarterback that can throw it more than five yards, I think it will go up. I think he's a great by-law right now. Coming into the season, I feel it was a lot like Juju last season, saying that he was on that borderline, wide receiver one, high end, wide receiver two. And the production just wasn't there this year. So right now, I would say it's going down as long as they are able to get a quarterback in there that's able to throw the deep ball, I would say it's going to rise. So I'm kind of riding the fence a little bit, but I think he's a great by-law in dynasty. I think people are way down on him, especially with the antics. He's just an easy young guy. Players are going to make mistakes on the field and people overreacted like that stuff. So I think he's somebody who I would be looking to acquire on the cheap. Okay. What do you think, Jay? Do you think it's how he's rising or falling? Yeah, I'm with Jay to a degree. We see this a lot. People, like players' values dip because of stuff like this, personality stuff. And I feel like a lot of times it just doesn't happen the way people think, right? Tyree Kale for a while was his value dipped. There's been a bunch of players who we've seen that. Now, of course you see it on the other side as well. Chase Claypool, it doesn't seem like it's an issue, like as much of an issue I think as people are bringing it out to be. I don't think his value is going up with Ben leaving, but it could. There's a lot of uncertainty. And like I always talk about with Dynasty players, if there's talent, I'm going to look for talent plus uncertainty where the uncertainty is hurting that player's value because that tells me there's opportunity there. And so I think Chase Claypool is a great by-law candidate like Jay's saying. Yeah, so I actually, I'm excited about his Dynasty value going forward a little bit. I think it's improving. I think he needs someone to hit him with that deep pass, right? And maybe it's not there. But I think odds are, like even if it's James Winston, let's just say for an example, I'm not saying that's even possible, but let's just say it is. I think that's a plus. That's like- I would love that. That's a big plus. He's not afraid to chuck the ball. I think his value is declining a little bit because like he only missed one game and he's the 43rd overall wide receiver in both standard and PPR leagues. He has 24th in PPR, 16th in standard last season as a rookie. So I think he's a very talented receiver. So I like him. So real fast, let's do a name game with a couple of people. Fast fire. JL first, all right, J first. J, J first, him or Tyler Lockett, I would take Tyler Lockett still. Just for the win now aspect. Claypool, what do you think, JL? I don't expect him to send me back in Seattle. So that's, that's why it's easily for me. I think I would go Claypool. JL? I would go Claypool. Okay, Claypool, Hollywood Brown. I would go Hollywood Brown. That's a good one. I think I'd leave Hollywood Brown as well. Yeah, same game for Shad Bateman. I'll go Claypool. I'll go Claypool over Bateman. I will go. But that's really close. They're written that connect with for me. I would go, I would go for Shad Bateman. Okay, and Mooney, Darnell Mooney, I'll go Mooney. Ooh. I'll go Claypool. I will go Mooney. And then last one, Rhonda Elmore, I'll go Claypool. I'll go Claypool, too. I'm going to go more if Kirk does not resign. If Kirk resigns with Arizona, then I will go Claypool. So that was fun. That was fun. So Chase Claypool, I think there's one other person over the course of this entire game that I really want to talk about it. It's Najee Harris. In a Dynasty League, Jonathan Taylor is obviously the number one overall running back, right? Oh, look at that. Is Najee Harris the first round pick next year? Let's just talk about next year real fast. Let's just answer Albert's question there. I think he probably is. Back end first. With that in my mind. Yeah, back end first, I think is where he belongs. Now, the QB narrative is certainly going to drive his value one way or the other. So be aware of that. But talent alone, I think they're going to feed him like they've been feeding him. So I think he deserves to be a first round. I think the quarterback situation really can't get any worse. Like Big Ben, you know, he had some flashes, but the passing game wasn't there like it has been in years past. So yeah, I am all over Najee Harris, make sure. Yeah. So real fast in dynasty, Jonathan Taylor is number one over a running back, right? Yeah. Definitely. I'm glad we're on the same page there. I don't think too many people are differing there. But I think after him, it could be a lot of guys. It could be Najee Harris. So real fast, Najee Harris or Christian McCaffrey. I'll take Najee Harris. It's Najee Harris. Oh God, in dynasty. I know you like Christian McCaffrey. Yes, it's in dynasty. I would take Christian McCaffrey still. Okay. How about Alvin Camara? We'll do three more of these. So Alvin Camara. We'll go Najee. One. I'll go Najee. I will go Najee, yeah. Javante Williams. The darling of everyone's eye, Javante Williams. We'll see if Melvin Gordon resides with the Broncos, but he's a free agent. I hope it happens simply to just see him flitter burn. I'll go Najee. I'll go Najee, too. We're all going Najee. And last one, this is gonna be the toughest one, Deandre Swift. I'm gonna go Swift. I'm gonna go Harris. I'm gonna go Swift. I'm gonna go Harris. I'm gonna go Najee Harris. I think I'm gonna go Swift as well. It's really, really close, but as bad as, like, to make the opposite point I was making earlier, you know, the offense could get worse, depending on the quarterback situation. Like if they go with Mason Rudolph next season, you know, then it's gonna be really ugly. We've already seen Swift put up elite numbers with a terrible situation. So that's why I slightly need Swift. Yeah, yeah. So I tend to agree with you. I'm gonna go Swift there, but it seems like maybe JL is Najee Harris, your second overall running back in Dynasty? No, it's on the CMC above him. Oh, okay, gotcha. So I'm gonna go to Jonathan Taylor, CMC, and then Najee Harris. Najee, yeah. For me, it'd be Jonathan Taylor, Deandre Swift, then Najee Harris. Yeah, that's where I'm at, too. All right, all right. Man, Deandre Swift is younger than Najee Harris. Oh yeah, yeah, I know. And JL Harris came out as an older rookie, for sure. Yeah, he did, he did. From the Raven side of the ball, they're gonna be a completely different team than what we just saw next year. They're gonna have Lamar back, they're gonna have JK Dobbins back. I think JK Dobbins is a great running back. We just talked about Marquis Brown and Rashad Bateman. I think we were, you know, for the most part, pretty on par with Chase Claypool's value. We'll take Hollywood Brown over Chase Claypool, right? I think we all said that. Yeah. So Mark Andrews, he's either the, he's a top three tight end. He's the number one for a lot of people. He's number one dynasty tight end for me. How about you guys? Wait, who is this? Mark Andrews, he's the number one dynasty tight end. Yeah. Well, no, I think I would take Pitts over him. Oh yeah, yeah, Pitts, Pitts, Pitts, Pitts. I think that's the right, it's Pitts or Mark Andrews. Yeah, I think I'm still Pitts slightly over, but it's very close. It's a lot closer than it was at the beginning of the season. Yeah. I think you're absolutely correct. Mark Andrews is my number two, though. How far do you guys have, Kelsey? Yep. Kelsey would be number three. He would also be my number three, neck and neck with George Kittle. Yeah, same. When it comes down to it. So they're all a tier when it comes down to it for me, because George Kittle, he's probably the most talented one when it comes down to it. We talked about that recently, in my opinion. He's probably the most talented one, but he can't stay on the field with him and nervous about what happens with him and Tre Lantz together. Yeah, yeah. We got who we have here in the chat. Sorry, I'm lost my windows here. Jacob Johnson saying, let's go 49ers. It is tied up 24, 24. I saw they were in the red zone, second and seven in the red zone over time on the seven yard line. That's a crazy game. Oh man. I'm gonna be honest. I'm rooting for the Rams in that one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jacob. I'm sorry. I'm in a football pool. And I might win this week. I don't get 200 bucks if I win this week and I got the Rams in that. Josh is only to the money. I'm loyal to the money. All right, but that's pretty much all I wanted to go over in the Raven Steelers game. And now we have the Chicago Bears in the Minnesota Viking. Chicago Bears lost this game 17 to 31. J.L., how does he make you feel? This game was something. We had Andy Dalton leading the Bears. Yep, it was something. We had David Montgomery had a pretty decent game, 20 carries, 72 yards. No touchdowns, unfortunately. Vikings had a bit of a scoring spree in the fourth quarter here. But I don't know how much we can really take away from this game. Just starting on the Bears side of this. Assuming that Andy Dalton isn't the starter next season. We got Justin Fields. David Montgomery, he's coming into what? This is his third, fourth year? How do you guys feel? This is his third year he's playing. Third year? So third year? So he's had, he's come full circle kind of with, from a fantasy perspective. How are you guys feeling about David Montgomery and fantasy? Where are you drafting him amongst running backs? Going into next season. Going into next season, yeah. I would feel more comfortable with him as my running back too.  But I think, you know, you really don't have to worry about the volume because the guys behind him played well. But Damien Williams, when he was healthy, he played okay. What's the other guy that came in and played well when he was injured? Clio Herbert. Clio Herbert played well. And he still got the volume when he came back from injury. So I think the Bears granted, there is going to be a new coaching system in there next year. So might not necessarily be exactly the same, but it seems like Chicago wants to use him as a bell cow. And if you can get a guy like that in fantasy, you know, volume is king.  I would rather RB two, but I could see as a back end RB one. What about you, you Josh? How are you feeling about David Montgomery? Yeah, I like David Montgomery. He's not going to be a running back one for me. It'll be a mid-level running back two when it comes down to it. Just because of that offense he's in. I don't think Justin, I think Justin Fields, I'm hoping there's a new coaching staff there next year that actually- They're very likely maybe. Yeah, I hope they create a playbook more around Justin Fields, which they're not doing right now at all, at all. And it's a little frustrating. So I think this could be a completely different offense next season. I'm not 100% sure if that's a good thing or bad thing for David Montgomery. I think it leads to a little bit less volume. That's what, so I'm a little concerned about that, but maybe more efficiency. So, you know, when it comes down to it, he's probably just around running back 15, 16 for me next year. So in Dynasty, where are you putting David Montgomery? See around that same area that I'm running back to? Absolutely. That's right where I'll put him in Dynasty as well. Because he's 24. He's 20, yes, you're right, he's 24. He's not necessarily old, but he's not, he's not the youngest running back either. So let's play a quick name game then with David Montgomery in Dynasty. In Dynasty, formats, are you taking in hand makers of David Montgomery? Jay? I will, yeah, that's a tough one. I was hoping you were going to Josh first. I'll take David Montgomery. Yeah, until you can see, you know, came makers still have the same explosion that he had last year. You gotta go David Montgomery. Gibson or Montgomery? Antonio Gibson or Montgomery? I'm going to Gibson there. Clyde Edwards Allaire or David Montgomery? David Montgomery. CEH. Ooh, so there's some dissenting opinions here then. What about Aaron Jones or David Montgomery? David Montgomery. David Montgomery. And the thing with the tiebreaker for me with CEH is the offense that he's on. I think it's close, but I like Kansas City better. Okay, and the last one, Elijah Mitchell or David Montgomery? David Montgomery. David Montgomery. They are right. Some solid David Montgomery there. Otherwise, on the receiving side of this Bears offense, Darnell Mooney, 12 receptions on 16 targets, continues to be the target leader on this team. He had 126 yards, no touchdown. Allen Robinson was nowhere to be found. Two receptions for 22 yards off four targets. How are you guys feeling about Allen Robinson going into this next season? Like Josh said, new coaching staff, is it, are you done? I think Allen Robinson is a free agent if I remember correctly. He was franchised tag last year, so they could franchise tag him again, but I don't get that.   They will franchise tag him. So let's say that he is a free agent. Let's say that he's going to a new team. You're doing a dynasty startup. Where are you drafting Allen Robinson? Are you hands off? Are you hopeful if he gets an offense where he can hopefully thrive? I mean, he needs a new team when it comes down to it. I think he is a talented receiver. He's 28 years old. He's been good as long as he's getting volume. So I will be concerned if he goes into a situation where he's the number two wide receiver, but he's going to have a better season in my mind than he did this season. Not that he did anything this season. So yeah, the error is pointing up, but up from this is, you know, still concerning. I'm pretty much hands off unless I can get him at a value now. If he winds up in a better situation with a good quarterback where he's going to be the wide receiver one, then I expect his ADP to jump up from where it would be is if he did say with Chicago or wound up as a wide receiver two somewhere. So most likely I'm going to wind up not drafting him in dynasty startups unless I'm able to get him in a discount. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I just, we haven't seen it in so long. I just can't have trust in that. Before we go on to the other side of this ball, Sir Scamper's got a question for us. Echler or Monty? I'm guessing this is, yeah, this is- Dynasty or redraft, I'm going to take Echler. Yeah, I'm going to take both too. Same. I thought this was a question for a minute. Monty, a third round pick. And just to give you some context, we did a mock draft on our show early two weeks ago and it was a superflakes draft. So that's, there's a lot more quarterbacks in this first couple of rounds, but David Montgomery went with the fourth, the seventh pick in the fourth round and a 12 team lead. So yeah, in a one quarterback league, David Montgomery's probably a third round pick. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that is fair. I would have a hard time taking them there, but I think that's where you're going to have to take them. Yeah, probably. So on the other side, on the Viking side of this ball, not much to talk about. Apart from the wide receivers, both all three of these guys, Justin Jefferson, Amir Smith-Marcet and KJ Osborne all got a touchdown. Justin Jefferson led the team in receiving. Amir Smith-Marcet, he's a rookie. Rookie this year and a lot of people were touting him coming into the season as a potential dark horse rookie, someone who might blow up that people aren't expecting. Is there any interest in stashing in Amir Smith-Marcet going into next season from you guys? Obviously, Adam Thielin is out. He's on IR currently. So he's not coming back this season, but he'll most likely be back next season. How do you guys feel about Amir? I mean, I think he's fine. He's somebody I don't mind on my taxi squad or just somebody just sitting on the end of my bench, but he's not somebody that I'm actively looking to acquire or anything like that. I just think that, especially with expect a new coaching staff, I expect some personnel turnover as well. And you just don't know what this team's gonna look like. So a guy like that, do I mind having him as a lottery ticket at the end of my bench? Absolutely, that's fine. But I wouldn't give up anything of value to get him. What about you, Josh? Yeah, yeah. I mean, a deep dynasty league, sure throw him on the bottom of your bench, see what happens, see if Adam Thielin gets out of there. But you know, with Justin Jefferson in the area, I mean, again, he had three targets, three receptions, 103 yards and a touchdown, three catches being his best game before that was one catch for seven yards. So I can't rely on this in week 18 of the end of season. That's fair. All right, it's all I got. That is all you got, that is all you got. So we will move on to our next game. We are going to go to the New York Giants versus the Washington. No, Jay, I'm sorry. I feel like I say this every week. We can just skip that. I know we could. I know we could. Oh, Seattle, Seahawks won. I had them in my pick home. That's why I like to see. That I'm glad too because that helps the Giants draft pick because the Jets have Seattle's draft pick. So they were battling for that five, six, seven spot. So the Giants, I think they might have the fourth overall pick with Seattle winning. So I'm going to blow it. Oh, well, if Dave Gettleman's there, we're going to blow it. There's no question. Speaking of blowing it, the New York football Giants, I'm ashamed to even claim as my favorite team right now because it is just ugly. Did you guys see? No, I tried not to watch this game. Well, in their own side of the field, two out of the four plays within the 10, they ran a QB sneak. Yeah, I saw one that was like a third and nine. Third and nine. On second down and third down, they ran a QB sneak. So that's the epitome of just giving up. So there's really similar to the game earlier. There's not a whole lot to take away from the fantasy perspective. Jake Fromm was in there through for 100 yards and a touchdown. Darius Slaton caught a touchdown. Neither Kenny Galladay or Kaderius Tony caught a single touchdown this season. So yeah, take one, Barkley. 11 rushes, 30 yards. I mean, Kenny Galladay had a great game, though. It was three catches for 22 yards, you know? That's pretty much what you're going to expect from Kenny Galladay right now, unfortunately. I got to say this, there's really not much to say, but when it comes to- Is he's been worth like putting any belief in Giants players next season? Assuming that they don't completely revamp the coach. The only thing I'll say is if Saquon Barkley falls far enough, I think he could be of value. I'm not taking him as a running back one. Not taking him as a high end RB2, but I mean it. Saquon or David Montgomery just next season. You took the words right out of my mouth.  JL gave it a confidence Saquon, huh? Saquon. Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt with me. Next season, yeah. I don't know guys, we'll see. It's a little different. They're close, they're close. No, they're close, I guess I'll say Saquon right now, but. It is close. I don't know. All right, let's jump that into a little bit of a name game. 2022, this upcoming upseason only, not dynasty. Saquon Barkley or Ezekiel Elliott. Just this next season. He's getting more and more involved every year. I'll take. Zeke's the safer pick, probably. Whoa, whoa, whoa, I'll take, I'll take Zeke. Right now, I lean Zeke.  In dynasty. Yeah, Saquon, yeah, yeah. But 20, yeah, I'm with you, you gotta go Zeke. Maria said, get out of here with the Saquon, hey. I love Saquon, it's not a hit. Well, it is a little bit him, it's a little bit him, but mostly. I've got my little Saquon right here, he needs to step it up, but. Saquon Barkley or Josh Jacobs. Next season, Barkley. That makes me sick. Bacups. Bacups. I'll take Barkley. Bosch Bacups. I'm going. He'll get about it though. Mr. Scamber saying, God, they gave up a catchable deep ball too, that is brutal. And Fandle saying, congrats to the Giant's fourth string quarterback, having more rushing yards than Saquon Barkley today. Yes. If that doesn't sum up the Giant's season. Shout out to Zeke from. Then I don't know what does, it's just ugly. Hopefully they improve that offensive line. Like that's all I got to say. Obviously they need to help. That's what Dave Gettleman was supposed to do, get some hog mollies in there. Hog mollies, what the heck does that even mean? Like honestly, I'd never thought I'd say this in my life, but man, dude, they just want Daniel Jens back. Please, so the love of God, get Daniel back. Please give me Daniel Jens. Maria saying, I don't want him to leave the Giants, but he does need a better team. That's a good, it brings up a good point. When is his contract up? I think he's gotta be coming up, right? This year, I think this is gonna be his- He's got one more year? Let me take a look real quick. So this is his fourth season. He's going into his fifth season. Did they take his fifth year option? I'm not 100% sure. I don't believe they did. Let me take a look. So if they didn't, then he's a free agent after the season. Yeah, they must have. 2022, he's still on the books, so they must have taken his fifth year option. And then 2023, he's an unrestricted free agent. Okay. So you at least get another year of him. Hopefully. Yay. We have a question in the chat. Honestly, I wouldn't mind. Or Travis ETN. Woo-hoo. This hurts my heart. It is Saquon now. It's still gonna go to Saquon. Yeah. I love Travis ETN. And then I'll give you one more too. You talk so much about the Saquon, but like having trouble finding people that will jump over Saquon now. Yeah, but I think the thing is, like before this season, it was Saquon Barkley or Christian McCaffrey. Saquon Barkley or Daven Cook. Now, you're going two or three tiers. I don't think that he has lost a step in the grand scheme of things. I think he had a bad season. I think that ankle injury, something that has nagged him all season and the offense that he is, there's just a little upside. And so as a talent, I'm not that down on Saquon Barkley. I think he'll be a great value in dynasty, but the question is when? You know, when is he gonna- I think he's also a little bit, in my opinion, a little bit. It's possible. He doesn't look like the best running back in the league right now. Yeah, I don't blame you. That's where I think the injury is maybe causing a lot of that, but we will see, because it's possible. Yes, exactly. I know, that's the thing. Like, I'm not sure. Like, is it the injury? Is he gonna come back strong next season? He's just like the old Saquon, then- Right. He's gonna exceed draft expectations.  Yeah, you're gonna get bitten, but that's what you're gonna get. Exactly. Exactly. On the other side of the ball, Terry McLauren, even though he's had a disappointing season overall, he becomes the first Washington player to have back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons since 1994, 1996, I guess they're- 94, good year. Henry Elliott, but you guys even born then? I mean- I was born then. I was born exactly then. Oh, jeez, Louise. That's why I said it was a good year. Yeah, great. Oh, Mr. Scamper's saying Saquon or Elijah Mitchell. I love when you guys are coming in with the name game questions for us. I'm going Saquon. Yeah, I gotta go Saquon. Josh? Saquon. Don't sound so excited about it. Saquon. Saquon, I'm betting on him still being a generational talent. Yeah, and he's gotta get healthy too. He was banged up this year too. There wasn't much to play for, you know, that I guess I can always say it can't get worse, but I feel like I've said that for the past five or so years, and it somehow continues to get worse. It feels like it gets worse. Yeah. I mean, I honestly think the Giants are the worst situation of football right now. It's as much as it hurts to say. I think they're in the conversation. Yeah, yeah, but the Washington football team, Taylor Heineke, 120 passing yards, not much else. Antonio Gibson had a good game, 21 rushes, for 146 yards and a touchdown. He chipped in a catch as well. But Terry McLauren, like I said, has back to back 1,000 yard seasons, and he's a guy I wanna talk about from a fantasy, excuse me, a dynasty perspective. Four catches, 93 yards. Let's just jump right into it. Terry McLauren is a top blank dynasty wide receiver. So where would you rank him, top 12? Terry McLauren for me would be a top 15 dynasty wide receiver, and I'd probably put him at 15. Yep, I'm right there with you, Josh. I was gonna say the exact same thing. Yeah, yeah, it's hot. Top 15, I put him at 15. Yeah, and the conversation starts on, maybe you're getting into this, Joe, but it's like him, Terry McLauren, or Deandre Hopkins, who's a little bit older for me. Deandre Hopkins is 29 years old, yeah, exactly, Terry McLauren was in the worst situation, but actually at the same time, like their zone of cardinals, they spread the ball around. What we saw this year, even when Deandre Hopkins was out there, he was a touchdown threat on any play, but he wasn't getting the same targets for seven yards that he was used to getting previously in his career. So I'd probably lean Terry McLauren over to Deandre Hopkins. I do too, just age-wise in dynasty, I would, what about Waddle? Waddle over. I'd go for Waddle over him. Yeah, definitely Waddle. Yeah, I would just put Waddle over him. Yeah. DJ Moore. DJ Moore's not a really close one. I'm going for McLauren. I'm going for McLauren. I would go more. I think that's fair. I'm glad you went more, because they're super close to my mind. Is Debo in the top 15 at this point? Debo's got to be above all these guys at this point for me. Yeah. Yeah, he's got to be. I think he's still young. He should get quarterback eligibility after today as well, possibly. Who knows? Quarterback eligibility, yes. Make him eligible for every position at this point. Yeah, every position. He's a better tight end than 90% of the tight ends out there. Whatever, like, close enough. Easy, easy. So like, yeah, I'm all in on Debo. He's a top 10 wide receiver for me. Yeah. Top 10. So yeah, was that everything in that game, or was there something else? Yeah, that's pretty much it. I sure hope so, Albert. I think there was talk that he was guaranteed his spot coming into what game was it? Like four or five weeks ago, they were saying that they were going to hang on to him. But as bad as this went and that call to go for it, to do two quarterback sneaks back to back, within your own 10 yard line, there's such an uproar from the fan base, there's no way that they can keep Joe judge. I pray that they fire him. I don't see how they can bring him back. I mean, obviously, you have a little bit more inside knowledge on this, and you're around the team more, but I feel like there's a way. I feel like there's a chance. I don't know.  But I was excited after last season, but the way that this season has just went off the rails, I just, I think it's time for judge to go. We just, we have to clean house. We have to, you know, get a GM in here to let him pick who he wants and start this long rebuild process. Well, I hope you get your Christmas wish, wish to be honest with you. Well, thank you, I appreciate that. I truly do, I truly do. But let's get into our next game here, all right guys.  This was a surprising one, if you ask me, the Houston Texans made it a close one throughout the game. Well, actually at the beginning of the game, it looked like the Titans were gonna dominate. It didn't look like the Texans had a chance. The Titans looked like they should be the number one seed in the AFC, not that beating the Texans should be a great barometer for that. But hey, they ended up winning the game. This was a close one throughout. Like I said, at the end of the game, the Titans will now be the number one seed in the AFC. They will have home field advantage in the AFC playoffs and we'll have the loan buy in the conference. The Titans came into this game though. 10 and a half point favorites, according to the Spandals both this game was in Houston. Texans covered. Texans covered. I mentioned my office pool, my football pool I'm doing and took the Texans in this one. Took a lot of the underdogs plus points. It was a 42 and a half point over under. They well covered that scoring a 53 points total. So the Titans, like I just said, they're gonna have the number one seed. They're gonna get the buy and it looks like they're gonna have Derek Henry back I know they've been missing the man in their offense. Do we think that this team is a legit title contender or how about not let's not even say title contender. Do we think they're a legit contender to get to the Super Bowl in the AFC JL? What do you think there? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I think they're, yeah, they're, especially with the buy that shoots them up in terms of their chances on making it to the Super Bowl. 538 gives them an 11% chance to win the Super Bowl, which is third among seeing if they have Packers at 26%, Chiefs at 21%, Titans at 11%. So, I mean, I absolutely think that they have, they have the possibility to win the Super Bowl. And I think that they very well could contend and get there. What did you say the Chiefs saw it's worth? The Chiefs were at 21% according to 538. 21. And then the Titans were what again? The Titans were at 11%. 11%, okay. Are you taking the Chiefs over the Titans? Yeah. Because the Titans are gonna be at home if they do end up playing the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah, they will. I think the Titans have been beatable. Even with Derek Henry earlier in the season, they've shown that they've been beatable. Chiefs too, you know, you gotta call a spade a spade. The Chiefs have also been beatable, but I just, I think that they feel a little bit more sturdy than the Titans. Yeah. I mean, it's just the Patrick Mahomes factor for me when it comes down to it's like any, whatever the game script, whatever is happening in the game, as long as you're, you have a chance to, like you have a chance because you had Patrick Mahomes, right? Right. Because he can do anything. He's amazing when it comes down to it. He's a super star. I'm a little jealous. He's a super star. Yeah. But I agree though. I do think that the Titans are a legit title contender. I think they could make the Super Bowl. I think they could win the Super Bowl. If everything's firing on all cylinders for this team, they can beat any team in the end of time. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I'm with you. Especially when they get Derek Henry back. Especially they'd need Derek Henry back though, in my opinion. They don't have a tough time if they don't have Derek Henry back. If Derek Henry's back. Deontre Forman does look good. He looks good. He's look good, but he has no Derek Henry. He's not Derek Henry. Deontre Forman, 21 carries 69 yards. He had a catch for 15 yards. So a fine game. I like the rotation they've been using with Hilliard. You know, he's been involved. He's looked good as well. And you know, another stud that they have is AJ Brown. All right. AJ Brown's another stud that they have. I love what I've seen out of him since he's been getting healthy. So you got to keep him in mind. You know, Ryan Tanner was also playing pretty well. Now let's talk about AJ Brown's dynasty value real fast. He's personally, for me, he's moving up my dynasty rankings. He's probably my number four wide receiver dynasty right now guys. My number four wide receiver dynasty. But I think you can consider him after, well, I'll say the first two. Oh, you could consider him number one if you really wanted to. But we got Justin Jefferson. We got Jamar Chase. There are one and twos, right? Yeah. Jay, do you agree? Look, you look good, Jay. You look sexy. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good face. So I froze there for a second. I think I'm good. Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase number one and two dynasty wide receivers. No question. Okay. Cool. CD Lam's my number three. I think this word of the conversation starts. Ooh, that's... We're talking about AJ Brown dynasty value. And for me, he's my number four wide receiver dynasty. It would go Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, CD Lam, AJ Brown, then Tyree Kill. So that would be my top five. Say it one more time, Josh. My top five would be Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, CD Lam, AJ Brown, Tyree Kill. And then I think you can consider here inside your top five, Devonte Adams, Stefan Diggs, DK Metcalf, maybe Jalen Waddle. But I think that's a little crazy at this point for me. A little too much. Yeah.  I think I would take him above CD Lam. Oh, really? I think I would, yeah, I think I would. God, that is close though. The years, the young, he's two years younger than... So Tyree Kill's 27, Devonte Adams is 29, Stefan Diggs is 28, DK Metcalf's 24, AJ Brown's 24, CD Lam 22, Jamar Chase 21, Justin Jefferson 22. So that's kind of... Any of those ages you just said whatsoever. Justin, this top three, Jefferson, Chase and Lam, they're really young. AJ Brown and DK Metcalf, they're pretty young. Hill, Adams and Diggs, they're getting older. I think I would give the edge to Lam, actually. Now that I think about it a little more. I think my top five is the exact same as yours, Josh. I think it's putting it in. Yeah, it's Jefferson Chase, Lam Brown Hill. It's Jefferson Chase, step above then Lam and AJ Brown. Oh, and Cooper Cup, we gotta mention Cooper Cup here. He's not in the top five for me. He's gonna be in a lot of people's top five by that, even for Dennis. Yeah, it just could be him. I'm taking Devonte Adams over him. I would too, I'll take Cooper Cup over Stefan Diggs. I think I would too. There we go, there we go. And me, just. Yeah, so, all right. And paired with who we believe for a long time, Matthew Stafford, they have a connection, it looks like. A long time though? I mean, Matthew Stafford's getting up there in age compared to Josh Allen. 33, 34, 34.  Matthew Stafford doesn't look like he's showing signs or showing down, slowing down really. So once I start seeing the signs, I'll start having more concern, I think. Yeah, I'm with you, Josh. Yeah, oh, Debo can absolutely be in this conversation. He has a little bit too much injury risk and just like the way he's used is a little concerning, but I love Debo Sam, he's in my top 10. You're taking Cooper Cup over Debo, right, Josh? Yes. Jay, are you taking Debo or Cooper Cup? Yeah, I think you gotta take Cooper Cup. It's close, but I think you gotta go. He's 25 compared to Cooper Cup, who's 28. It is very close. I would take Cup, I would take Cup at the end of the day, but they're back-to-back in my rankings. Cup or DK make up? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, we did this conversation. I would take DK. Okay, I think, I don't know. It's tough, it's the situations. The situations make it really, really interesting. I would take Cup. I think I'd take a Cup. I'd take a Cup just because I don't expect Wilson to be back in Seattle. Yeah, yeah. Give it to him, give it to him, give it to him. Okay, I think I'm taking Cup. All right, all right. Can T-Higgins be in this conversation? Can I force T-Higgins to come? But I'm taking all the guys we talked about so far over T-Higgins, but better T-Higgins. I'm probably am too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think maybe like, yeah, yeah. Stefan Diggs is probably my lowest out of all of these guys we're talking about. And I'm still taking- Oh, I'm excited to do some Dynasty Rankins. Oh, me too. Let's get at it, let's get at it. Let's do ASAC, KL. All right, Texan side of the ball. There's not much to talk about. I'm sorry guys, there's Davis Mills though who continues to impress the hell out of me. And look, I was just doing this Dynasty Ranking Short, you know, ranking my top five quarterbacks, rookie quarterbacks. And I was tempted, I was tempted to put Davis Mills over Zach Wilson as my number five rookie quarterback. I couldn't do it. He's my number six rookie quarterback right now, but I was freaking tempted. Guys. 300 yard game. Was I crazy? Was I crazy for considering that? Should I have done that? I don't know. I don't know, Josh. I don't know what the deal with Davis Mills is. If he feels like a trap, honestly. And in the Dynasty Context, he feels like a trap. But he's playing so well, he's just playing so well. Number three quarterback on the week. Number three quarterback on the week at Fancy. He just looks kind of good doing it. He's looked better than Zach Wilson has, right? Yeah. Davis Mills, we've got you on this. Crazy if you're considering it. No, but you can't do that at this point. It's too small of a sample size. Zach Wilson, dealing with injury, I think, think you got to give him another season before you can make a move like that. That's fair. I'm still taking Zach Wilson. Like I said, I ranked Zach Wilson ahead of him, but I was tempted. How about another quarterback? Let's say you're in a Dynasty Superflex League, all right? You're in a Dynasty Superflex League. Would you draft Davis Mills at this point or Jamis Winston? Like we kind of said in the past, I believe actually Jamis Winston's contract might be up. Let me vet that for you guys. But right now, let's just say it. Let's say Jamis Winston. I believe it is. I think he is a free agent. Let's say he's with the Saints. You're taking Davis Mills or Jamis Winston. He signs another one-year contract. I still think I'm going Jamis. Still think I'm going Jamis because he's young enough. He's still only 28 years old. Actually, he just turned 28 on January 6th. So happy belated birthday, Jamis. Hope it was a good one. I long-term, Davis Mills probably has more value, but Jamis Winston still has sky-high upside. We've seen it, you can sling the ball. He can be a QB1. I don't see that for Davis Mills. I think he can be a solid, best case scenario for Davis Mills is probably a solid QB2 flex starter, super flex starter, best case for Jamis Winston. For fantasy, he could be a top five option in the right system. Maybe, yeah. Top five, I'm hesitant to say top five. Just knowing that the top five are right now, but... Best case scenario, like if... Sure. Yeah, so for me, I'm going Jamis. I will go Jamis. It is close, but I will go Jamis. I'm probably going Jamis, too. And really, real fast, one more name. Him or Derek Goff. I guess I'll lean Derek Goff. I will go Goff, yeah. I will go Goff over both of those guys. Yeah. 27 years old. Jay looks like he's considering it. He is considering it. Yeah. I'm going Davis Mills. I... Davis Mills! Oh! I'm going Davis Mills over Goff. Yeah, you love Davis Mills. I love Davis Mills. Don't tell him. Now, Ron's saying I am down by 24th. One player left, and he has none left. Who's your player? Who's your player? Let us know. I mean, that's going to be tough regardless. You have to likely yard to win. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll absolutely give you a percentage. Oh, Alfred Allen has asked that one. I was out. Sam Darnold or Davis Mills? Davis Mills. Davis Mills.  I'll take Davis Mills. You know Sam Darnold's only a year older than Davis Mills? Do you guys know that? No, he's only a year older. Sam Darnold was really young when he came out, like really young. 24, compared to Davis Mills, 23. That is tough. That's a good question, Albert. Yeah, but I guess, hey, we found the line, though, right? We did. When it came down to it. Jordan Love or Davis Mills? Davis Mills. Davis Mills. Even though Jordan Love may be the starting quarterback for the Panthers. It sounds like they're trying to get Aaron Rodgers back in there. Let's move on to our next game. We have the Jacksonville Jaguars in Indianapolis Colts. I think for some, for many, this might have been the most exciting game of the week. Not because it was a close game or anything. So many playoff implications. I think I remember coming into this game, the Jacksonville Jaguars were like plus 670 odds. It was crazy betting odds. Like no one was thinking the Jaguars going to win this game because the Colts still had something to play for, and they were playing to win this game, and the Jaguars pulled it out. Wow. They absolutely pulled it out. Yes. Let me pull up the odds here. What were the odds in this game? The Andrews Sportsbook had the Colts' favorite by 14 points. And the total was at 43 and 1 1⁄2 points. 43 and 1⁄2. So it was an under. Hit the under, but the Jaguars obviously covered because they won. They won. Yeah, so this game was well-covered, huh? They well-covered. Carson Wentz played kind of poopily. Jonathan Taylor had a pretty kind of poopily. Jonathan Taylor had just a mediocre game. I feel like we've seen this last few weeks. They may be just not trying to wear him out too much for their playoff run. It's a possibility, but he still had 15 carries for 77 yards in this game. Michael Pittman, he's back with six receptions on seven targets and 64 yards and a touchdown. T.Y. Hilton has been a pretty solid piece in this offense, not so much for fantasy, but just in general. This game, he just had two receptions, 39 yards on five targets. But so there's not, I don't think there's much to take away from the Colts' side of this ball, to be honest. On the Jacksonville side, Trevor Lawrence had a pretty decent game. He looked pretty all right. 23 completions on 32 attempts, 223 yards and two passing touchdowns. Darryl Gumball, 11 carries for 30 yards. Not very impressive. You know you want to, J.O. You know you want to do it. I don't, but Marvin Jones, he had seven receptions on eight targets, 88 yards and a touchdown. And second receiver on the team was Leviska Chanel, who I think is probably the main one who I want to focus on in this game. Because I think Leviska Chanel is an interesting case. He's an interesting case. Coming to the season, very highly hyped, very young, very talented. He had Trevor Lawrence coming in, who many talented as a generational talent, the best quarterback in his class. Leviska Chanel has not quite panned out this season. I think a lot of that has to do with the offense, but you can make the argument that other wide receivers were doing better than him in that same offense. So how do you guys feel about Leviska Chanel going into next season? Where, do you have any hope that Leviska Chanel is able to turn this around, hopefully, along with the changes in the team? Jay, why don't we start with you? Our resident, Visca Truther. Yeah, everybody knows if you follow me on Twitter how much. I love Leviska Chanel. The thing for me is he's the type of player that should be used like Devo Samuels being used in San Francisco. And the hype was never, oh, I think Leviska Chanel is going to be a top 10 wide receiver. He just got a very unique skill set that could be used all over the field. And if he's used the right way, he could really put up some solid production. And I thought Urban Meyer would use him in like the Percy Harvind type role that he used. So I can't quit Leviska Chanel, but it also depends on the cost. And that's the same, you know, fantasy is all about value. If you're drafting him as a wide receiver too, heck, if you're drafting him as a wide receiver three, that's too high. That's too high. Yeah, just wide receiver three period is too high. I mean, you're looking at a lottery ticket right now. And I think he could, I could see him if he's used the right way, producing back-end wide receiver two type of numbers. But right now that's best case scenario. And that's if somebody comes in and uses him like the Swiss army knife he can be. So, Josh, how do you feel about Leviska Chanel? I'm in line with Jay. Like he's not a wide receiver three. I'm, he's probably not a wide receiver four for me. When it comes down to it, he's not in the top 45 wide receivers, I don't think that I would draft. Do you think that it's talent or do you think it's... 50 wide receivers I would draft. Okay, you could stop, you could stop. No, I'm like, I'm looking at a list right now and like there's so many people are just surpassing him, you know, and I... That's the truth. Do you guys think it's talent or do you think it's circumstance? Do you think he's just not as talented as many people? I think if he was talented, like I would have liked to see this new coaching staff try to get him involved more, but he's just not, you know, like you could blame Irving Mayer early in the season and maybe it's like the new coaching staff came in and they just, you know, they weren't prepared for this situation, but he's done worse, you know, since Irving Mayer's left. He hasn't done better. Yeah. I'm nervous for Leviska at this point. So, why don't we play, we'll throw a couple of names out here. Okay. Leviska Shinult or Michael Thomas and Dynasty? Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas. What about Leviska or... At least I've seen it for a minute before, you know.  I'll take Hunter Renfrow. Hunter Renfrow? For sure. Van Jefferson? I'll take Van Jefferson. What about Kenny Galladay? That's one I like almost wanted you to ask Jay, just randomly. I'm gonna cry. Kenny Galladay is actually a little older too. He's like 28. Yeah, 28. Leviska's 23. Kenny Galladay's locked into a big contract, which I don't know if it's necessarily a good thing. They might try to get out of that somehow at some point. I hope they get out of it somehow. You know, so, but in the meantime, they're gonna try to get him involved again next year. I've got a serious... You've seen, like you said with Michael Thomas, you've seen Kenny Galladay put up the numbers. You haven't seen it yet from Leviska, so as much as it hurts, I gotta go Kenny Galladay. Okay, all right. That's like the line for me, but I guess I'll probably take Kenny Galladay who... But then there's Kaderia. I'll take Kaderia's Tony over both these guys. So, I don't know. What about Corey Davis? I'll go Visco over Davis. Visco over Davis. Thank you for giving me one that I can say Visco. Yeah, there we go. There we go. Thank you, J.O. I appreciate that. What about Jarvis Landry? Jarvis Landry just had a good game. I'll probably go Viscoe and a Dynasty League just for maybe the upside shot. Yeah, he turns it around. Yeah, yeah. How about in the same game, people forgot about him in a Dynasty League? Him or DJ Chark? I knew, I almost said it for you, Josh. I'll take DJ Chark, I think. I'll take Leviska. I'll take Leviska. And Mr. Schamper's gonna be out of Jacksonville. He's not, his contract's up, so... Mr. Schamper's a good one here, too. Redraft and Dynasty, Judy or Chanel? Judy. I'd go Judy with both. It's not even close. Yeah, Judy is worlds ahead. Yeah, yeah. Was that really all from this game? That's all, yeah. I can handle saying JT, running back one in Dynasty, absolutely, he is. Yeah, it's not. He's in a tier by himself. I think he can make a case for it. Yeah, he should be the one-on-one in all formats, in my opinion. Age, system. I'll fight with you there, Jay. If you wanted someone to fight with, I'm your man, man. He usually does, yeah. Because I'm in a Super Flex League. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You said all formats. You're right. You said it. I misspoke. You said it. You said it. And then you started cracking your knuckles like you wanted to fight me about it? And you said, you're the one who said, let's fight. I want an apology. I want an apology. That's all I want. Josh, I'm not sorry. Now, I did not mean Super Flex. Super Flex, I would go Patrick Mahomes for Josh Allen. I think you can make an argument for JT, even in Super Flex. So it's really not in my hands. Albert's saying, what if the Jacks hire Bill O'Brien? That would be tragic. His butt chin would. Oh, and they're talking about doing it, too. I hope they go with Byron Leftwich. I would love to see a creative, offensive mind like Byron Leftwich go with Trevor Lawrence. I think that's the hire to make. Don't let Bill O'Brien be your GM. That's that's whatever you do. You're not going to make good at it. Don't let Bill O'Brien be employed by your team. That's fair enough.  Ooh, that's a good one. I'm on a round for sure. I'm on a round. I'm going on a round. I would go, I think I would go. Oh, God, I don't know. I guess I'll go I'll go Claypool just to have a different one of these guys. That's great. That is that is very close. That's very close. Jeff saying, fight yard fantasy night. I love it. Yes. And Maria said, OK, how many leads did you guys make it in the championship in slash? How many were you in in this year? So let's see whose percentage is the greatest. How many were you in versus how many did you win? Don't make me lose. Dang it. I left my notebook down there. I prefer not. Oh, yeah, Josh has got like a thousand leagues. I was in 20 leagues. I won one championship and I was in two. I'm in 20. But I've got a couple of free leagues. I got a couple of charity. I got a couple that I co-managed. So I was in four championships and I won three of them. That's pretty good. I won one. The one that only that matters to me is that belt right there, my home league. That's that's the main one that matters. I lose every game and the rest of my leagues as long as I have that belt. All right. I can't believe the Lions won this game. Detroit Lions against, you know what, say what you want about the Lions. But Dan Campbell, how can you not like the guy? Like these guys play hard for him. May not be the smartest guy in the room, but you know what, he's passionate. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey. Who else is in the room? You don't know. I mean, if my son. If it's you in the room with him. Oh, I don't know who I was expecting that. It was me or Jay. Whoa, yeah. You were trying to fight me earlier, Jay. I said I was going to eat you back, right? It's all right. You know I love you. Jared Goff put up decent numbers, 238 passing yards, two touchdowns. Ahmed Ross St. Brown, he continues to just finish off the season, eight catches, 109 yards, a touchdown. Still think I got to go Michael Pittman there, but it's Jeff asking a lot closer than it was. Brown and guessing in diamond. Yeah, regardless. I'll go. Yeah, myself. Yeah, I would go Pittman, too. You got to see what he does once Hawkinson's back. I know Swiss back in the lineup, but you know, and they're going to bring in someone. They got to, I think. I think there's going to be another. Yeah, and that's the thing. I love Ahmed Ross St. Brown, he helped me win some championships, including that belt. But like you said, T.J. Hawkinson hasn't been there. Swift has just been back, you know, he really wasn't involved last week. This is the first game that Swift was involved. So while I do think he's somebody, you know, everybody's saying sell high, sell high, sell high in Dynasty, I would say hang on Ahmed Ross St. Brown because he likely didn't cost you much in terms of draft capital or what you had to trade for him unless you've traded for him in the last couple of weeks. And I think the upside of having him on your team versus just, you know, trading him away, I would rather hang on to him and see if he can continue, you know, he's not going to keep up this pace that he's had at the end of the year, but he can be a very serviceable wide receiver, two wide receiver, three with, you know, potential for these big boom weeks, you know, Detroit is looking for playmakers and he's, he's turned it on. What do you guys think is Ahmed Ross a sell high or a buy low or a hold, but not buy low. I think if I had him, I just, I don't think the perceived value is there's yet, I don't think like anyone's considering him like a top, I mean, like there are people out there saying it, but like in your casual Dynasty League, I don't think you're going to get a big, you know, big haul for Brown on Ross St. Brown. So I think he's a hold as well. I wouldn't want to trade him. I'm so excited about his value next year. This is the great question, right? I kind of love this question. I just did a video kind of like, I had Elijah Moore ranked above I'm on Ross St. Brown. I still think I lean that way, but man, this is, this is so tight that like, the way he's ended the season, like I, I, I'm, I almost do want to put St. Brown above Elijah Moore, but I don't yet. You do, but you don't. I want to, but I'm not going to. I still got to go Elijah Moore, but it's, it's, it's very close. It's a lot closer than it was a few weeks ago. What about you, Jail? I think I might go on Ross St. Brown. I think I might go on Ross St. Brown. I don't know. It's, it is close. Yeah. I'll go, I'll go on Ross St. Brown. Again, to at least throw not his way. Yeah. By the way, the, the Lions, they, they now have the number two pick of the draft, this upcoming draft. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see what they do with that. It's not a great quarterback class, but who knows? I mean, Jaregloff didn't look horrible. No. I got two more names for you. I'm in Ross St. Brown and Rondale Moore. I'm on Ross St. Brown. What happened to Rondale Moore? Where's he been? So like, you know, I think the concerns coming into the season for Rondale Moore kind of came to fruition a little bit where he like, it's like, what if he's just a gadget player with like, he's not like on the field all the time. And I think it's kind of what is, if you get the ball in his hands, he's an electric athlete. He's crazy good. He looks awesome. But I think maybe he doesn't do everything else incredibly well. Yeah. 12, 12.2% of the market share, the market share, the market share, 12.2% of the target share on the steam throughout the season. And that team's going to spread out the ball. I mean, they found success doing that. And that's what they're going to do going forward. So that's going to be a concern for Rondale Moore. Yeah. In his future, I think. I would go, I'm on Ross St. Brown over, over Rondale Moore. Yes, me too. Yeah. Yeah, I think I would as well. Rondale Moore's stock would go up. Christian Kirk signs elsewhere. He has a free agent. You know, AJ Green isn't what he once was. He's getting up there in age. I don't even know. Was it a one year deal for AJ Green? It might have been. Actually, it might have been. I'll find out for you. Okay. But yeah, it was nice to see the Andre Swift get back in the end zone. He's definitely in consideration for, you know, within top five picks and pretty much. All non super flex formats. But on the other side of the ball, Aaron Rogers looked great. He only played half. And he got 138 passing yards to touchdowns. They are primed to make a deep run. AJ Dylan, 14 rushes, 63 yards. He's continued to really play well. Alan Lazard, who I do think is a free agent this upcoming season. Off season. Excuse me. Five reception, 75 yards and two touchdowns. Devonte Adams again, didn't play. They pulled a lot of the starters. Six catches, 55 yards. AJ Dylan is an interesting player. You know, there was a lot of hype going into last off season because Aaron Jones was a free agent and a lot of people expected the Packers to not resign him because they drafted AJ Dylan. What a second round pick, I think. So he's put up pretty solid numbers at the end of this year. You know, with, when Aaron Jones got banged up and even when he came back, they've continued to use Dylan. They really liked the one, two punch we saw it last year with Jamal Williams getting a lot of run. So AJ Dylan, see somebody. You guys are interested acquiring in dynasty leagues. Is he somebody that, you know, he's. Yeah, we'll just leave it there. See somebody that you're interested in acquiring in dynasty leagues. Not really. Not really am I, I'm not going to pay up for him. And I don't think the team that has him is just going to give him away for anything less than a solid deal. You know, and he's still going to have Aaron Jones there. He's just signed up to leave a four year contract coming into the season. So I don't know. I don't want the second running back on a team that might not have Aaron Rogers. That's fair. There's a lot of uncertainty there. By the way, AJ Green is on a one year contract. AJ Dylan, he is contracted until 2024. And then he's an unrestricted free agent. So he is the same as Aaron Jones. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good thing to check. But I'm still interested in him. Josh brings up a great point is that. Probably like, even though I'm interested in him, probably not going to be able to trade for him. I think, I think people are probably going to want too much for, for what I would expect out of AJ Dylan. But I think he absolutely has value. What this conversation tells me is in my mind, he's actually a sell. If you can get a decent haul. He's a sell for me. I'm with you. I'm with you. 100%. As he, somebody I would be looking to capitalize on this, the play for the, you know, unless Aaron Jones is in the town, he's never going to have that value. And he's not going anywhere anytime soon. Money talks. So that's pretty much it for this game. This was another one that was, it was exciting. It was great to see the lines win, but Green Bay didn't play a whole game. So. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But man, it was a high score game. It was fun. It was back and forth. Yeah. And like you said, lines pulled it out, but we can get into our next game here, the Buffalo bills beat up on the jets. Like, like they tend to do. It was a 27 to 10. They won by 17 points. I mean, yeah, 17 points on the jet side of the ball. Zach Wilson was not impressive guys. He really wasn't. I mean, no one on the jet side of the ball was necessarily impressive when it really comes down to it. A lot of their players, a lot of their starters, a lot of their assets that we love going forward. We're not playing in this game, but Michael Carter, he got nine carries for 19 yards. You know what I've found out? The jets have five rookies from this season. They have five rookies. That I have in my top five at their position. So Zach Wilson. He'd be my and, and they might all be number five right now. So Zach Wilson, my number five rookie quarterback this season, Michael Carter, my number five rookie running back this season. And Elijah Moore, he's four or among our same Browns four. So he's four or five, right? Okay. So do you agree with me there? Are they top five for you guys? I think, I don't think it's really much of a debate with Zach Wilson. It's either him or Davis Mills. When it comes down to it with Michael Carter, it's him or Remandry Stevenson. So Zach Wilson or Davis Mills, Zach Wilson guys. I think we said that earlier. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's still, still takes Zach Wilson. So Michael Carter or Remandry Stevenson. As much as I love the Rhino, it's hard to trust a new England back while I do, like we've talked about, I think it was last week. I like Harris and Stevenson both more than I would have New England backs in the past. I think they're going to be a one-two punch next year, but I could see Carter really surprised into people next year. And that stretch where he was dominant, I could see him doing that a lot more next season. So I'm, I'm going to go Michael Carter. Cool. Yeah. I'm going to go Michael Carter as well. Jail, what do you think? This is close. I might go, you're tempted, huh? You're tempted. It's a conversation. It's definitely conversation. It's tough. He's in New England. So that, but he's looked so good when it like, if he, if you told me Damien Harris wasn't there next year, I'd be all in on Remandry Stevenson. Like, the conversation would be him or Elijah Mitchell more, you know, if you take Damien Harris out of the equation, but Damien Harris is a part of the equation. And Michael Carter looks like he's primed to be the starter for the Jets next year, right? Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. It's the Jets that you never know. It's the Jets. The Patriots are going to have more rush attempts next season. I would be willing to make that bet a thousand times over. Right. So maybe by the end of the season, Remandry Stevenson can still have the better season, but Michael Carter, I think is a better past catching weapon. So I'll leave Marco Carter there, but it's a conversation like we said, right? Yeah. Elijah Moore, guys, just remember his name. Remember his name. He played really good. Remember the name. He did not play this week. So on the build side of the ball, Josh Allen, he killed it. Devin Singletary continues to just be a dominant force in this backfield. Guys going into next season. I'm sold. Like, you know, he's easy. He's a back in number two running back for me. He's number two running back on the week. Yeah. Yeah. He's not the number two running back next season. Yeah. Let's calm down. Let's calm down. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's, he's ran away with this job. Like next season, you think you're going to be drafting someone like Devin Singletary or are you going to take a shot on someone like Travis E.T.N. Just for redrap. Oh, give me E.T.N. Yeah. E.T.N. I like Singletary a lot more than I did. I just don't trust. What's to say? You know, we've seen this with the bills before where it looks like Singletary is the guy and then, you know, he was on the team. Yeah. But then they drafted, they drafted Zach Moss after they already had him on the team. You know, they signed Matt Berita after drafting Zach Moss. So if I knew he was going to get this type of workload, I'd feel much more comfortable with him as a, you know, a back end RB two, but I just, I don't trust the bills to continue to give him this type workload. In my opinion, he won the job. Like, yeah, I understand what you're saying. His rookie season, like he kind of at the end, like in the end chunk middle, like they gave him the work and it looked like he was going to be the guy going into next season. I agree. But then they, you're right. They signed Zach Moss, but I think they have realized now at this point that he's the guy they've made that determination. And that's what I project going into next season. I worry he might be a trap. I worry that he might be a trap, that he's been playing so well in the later, the later half of this season that we're going to go into next season, something's going to change. I'm with you, Josh, like if he can continue playing this well, it's going to be hard to dispute that he's, that's where he belongs is running back to, cause he's looked good. I don't trust Buffalo. I just don't. And the only, only other thing I'll add in there too with single Terry is you've got Josh Allen, who is the goal lineback. So you're going to lose touchdowns on the goal line to Josh Allen. You know, the uncertainty. It's just, we'll be affected by that too. I'll say this though. It's just like the offense is so power. He's linked to Josh Allen and I'm not going to make that a negative. Yes. Even though he is the goal lineback, you're right. You're right. The goal line carries, but I'm not, I mean, I'm going to say it balances out, you know, because it's a good offense, right? That's fair. All right. We make the same argument for the chief, right. Not as much. Not as much because Patrick Mahomes, it doesn't run like Josh Allen runs. No, but I think it's JL correct me if I'm wrong, I think you're talking about like the trick plays that they'll run with like the sweeps with the wide receivers and stuff like that. Like they do a lot more creative stuff on the, you know, versus just going, you know, Pound the rock on the What I more mean is like we make the argument that we want whoever is on that the running back on the chief's offense because they're so high-powered Yeah, and so it's it's Yes, so I understand I think you're saying like the chiefs because Josh Allen is like Patrick No, no, just did we make since we make that argument for the chiefs We we need to apply that also exactly exactly so so I'll take So all in all is what I'm saying is like I'll take Devon single Terry on his high-powered offense with Josh Allen Stealing coal line touches compared to a bad offense like the Jaguars is kind of what my argument would be I guess that's fair But but all in all, you know Devon single Terry I think he's probably a back-end number two running back for me going to next season I understand though if he's more of a flex for people Yeah But I want to move on to our next game here and we have the New Orleans Saints winning 30 to 20 In Atlanta against the Falcons What do we think? Yes? Yes, this was a this was a game guys. This was absolutely It was a game another another one of those I picked in my pool. I can't wait to look at my pool I think I'm doing really good. You just get every single one, right? I got I didn't get every single one, right? But I was in first place last time I checked my check I'm a check, you know, all right. Yeah, so I'm in first place right now I'm tied with someone with 11 correct picks and the next highest after that is 9 So it's looking good right now. Very nice. Very nice. Well, according to the fan dual sports book the the They were giving the Saints four and a half points. They were favored by four and a half points going into this matchup 40 and a half over under. Oh my there's some ESPN autoplay going on in my ears The Saints 130 to 20 Taysom Hill and Trevor Simeon split time in this game Albuquerque married a pretty good game 30 carries for 146 yards. No touchdowns, but still that's that's a good chunk of yardage That is a good chunk of yardage. That is a very good yardage. You'd like to see that That is very high. That might be the highest all week. I'm not sure I'm not sure not much really. I don't think to take away on the same side of this. They they got ahead pretty early on They scored seven in the first quarter in the 17 in the second quarter and they just were able to keep that lead I know that the Falcons is a division game. They wanted to take down the Saints here, but they weren't able to On the other side the Atlanta side Matt Ryan He had 20 completions on 33 attempts 216 yards and one passing touchdown. He also had a had a turnover on interception Cordero Patterson Not used again not used again Josh's theory is holding up that they're just limiting him going into next season. So let's keep an eye on that I think this is Correct me if I'm wrong. Tell me if you guys agree or disagree for this is gonna hurt Cordero Patterson's His his ADP going into next season I'm gonna probably have some cordial Patterson on my redraft team this next season just because I absolutely think you're correct I think this has killed his value going into next season I think people aren't see he's gonna be what he's 30 years old right now We just don't see running backs and wide receivers like do this at 30 and people aren't use this narrative and be like Well, look at the end of the season, you know, but I brought it up like you said JL before I was concerned because right four weeks ago the coaching staff came out and said they were gonna one of the limited Touches going forward. They didn't have a lot to play for and I think they want to conserve them for next season I think they're gonna bring them back in and they're gonna make them a part of this offense So I think he's gonna be a value in drafts next year What do you think J? Hey, if you about Cordero Patterson, yeah I completely agree with everything Josh said, you know Earlier in the season if if he were to continue to produce those type of numbers I think his ADP would have been where I would have not touched him. Yes, but I think there's gonna be enough people that think That it was just poor performance, but I I agree with you Josh I think your theory is correct, you know For once something that a coach said actually came true They said they were gonna pull back his workload and they did So if he's following far enough, I do see you know in some redraft leagues I could see where he'd be on some of my teams only at a value I'm not not actively seeking him out But if he falls to a value then he's somebody that I could see on my teams as well Yeah, I got what said Patterson. Yeah, he's gonna be a free agent going into the saw season So Josh is expecting them to sign part of it though. I think that's part of it They were like I think they went to him and they were like listen We want to like limit your workload. We want you ready for next season, right? And I think they're like our plan is to bring you back like if you want to test the market That's fine.  So I think I think that's I think that probably happened and that's not it's not a fact But it makes a lot of sense to me and everything lines up. It's a it's a tempting narrative for sure information from Josh Feaster Yes, yes beat reporter Josh Feaster. I Think the only other person really probably worth talking about on the Solana side is it's Russell Gage He had nine receptions on 13 targets 126 yards and a receiving touchdown. He had a pretty good week Russell Gage with without knowing whether Calvin Ridley is coming back next season What are we? What are you guys doing with with Russell Gage? Has he shown you enough in the short time that he's been the guy here? If Calvin really is not there Russell Gage I'm excited for next season like if Matt Ryan's there When I say excited, I'm he's not gonna be a wide receiver to for me Then but I think he's gonna be a rock solid flex play kind of deal I like the rock in there Josh You're probably gonna be able to get a value on him because I even without Calvin Ridley I don't think people are and be completely bought in to he's the guy Yeah Yeah, I'm with I'm not I'm not in yep I completely agree with every if if everything Josh said and JL sounds like you agree if Calvin Ridley isn't there I wouldn't mind him as a wide receiver three slash flex play if Ridley's back But I've got no interest Yeah, I'm with you guys real real fast to that point. I Know it's risky But I'm willing to try to talk to the Calvin Ridley manager and try to buy him low. Yes Yeah, I know it's risky I just think that there could be a lot of managers out there that are freaking out They're like he's done. He's not coming back and maybe he doesn't I don't know But well, did you see the report that they want to? Calvin Ridley and the Falcons are talking about going different ways that to me tells me that he wants to continue to play So I think I'm with you. I think he's definitely somebody that's worth Going after no, absolutely. I'm right there with you Josh He's a he's a we saw it on the field what he's done on the field so far Everyone's been impressed. He was a top five dynasty wide receiver coming into this year I believe if not top five or relying top five and he's no he's gonna be nowhere close to that in most people's minds And if he comes back, why doesn't he just go back into being in the top 10 guys for station at the very least, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm right there with you. That would be that would be crazy to when it happens It would be interesting to see how people draft him. I see come here now in the chat Should we do our Super Bowl picks from us? Well, that's a supper bowl. We haven't for supper bowl upper bowl. Oh We do Super Bowl picks real quick. Let's do it. We want to pick the winner or let's see Match up and winner All right All right, I like it.  That's Rams would be crazy So, all right, there it is. So we got we got them. We got them jail And I have the same matchup and Jay is going. What was it Rams Titans Rams? Yeah, I like it I don't want to write this down Yeah, I said see the Rams pulling it up I'd be yeah, I could see either one of those. I mean if you want I can write it on my board still at you Packers are chiefs It has it's done as well and you went Rams who? Titans Titans and you went Titans Titans. All right, I Wrote that funny and Packers, I like it's a mixture of all of ours actually Mashup got the same losing team as Jay the same winning team as me one of the same teams as J Oh, yeah, I like it a little bit of each of us and well all none of us will be anywhere close to right I would have mentioned last week. We did do a horse bet. We do you remember what it was? No We all did the same. We all picked the Packers my minus ten points I believe they won and they ended up covering the spread Okay, we would do we would do the the noise if if we were all wrong Okay, so you're right. We were all right. So no worries that we did make it no payouts needed Yes, I will write that on the board after the art art that's the only only Horse noise bet that we had All right, I think that's gonna do it for us Sunday night football has started so we want to make sure that we go enjoy that we want to make sure you guys go and enjoy that if you Watch all those meals watch all of those deals this firm tie We're about to get if you haven't already if a if you're on YouTube hit that like button Subscribe to fangirl right here on YouTube if you're on twitch hit that follow button It was tons of content creators cross almost all the sports. I'm sure there's some obscure sports They don't have but let's be honest. They got most of sports you care about make sure you go follow them on Twitter Tic-Tac and go follow them on fandal follow Yeah, you too Everywhere everywhere. 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