was really helpful to have all of that clarified in terms of all those levels of details Because some people had worried that maybe they shouldn't be allowed to pull both sets of papers even to begin with And so clarifying all that I think was really important and it's just something we've not had to deal with before Because one did not pull two sets of papers say for example for two different town meeting seats Like a one-year seat and a three-year seat because you only needed one signature. So it was a very different circumstance Thank you for getting all that from kp law So is there any Was either as far as the transition So the next item on the agenda the town manager performance evaluation goal setting review timeline I think really the purpose of having this on here for myself You know, there's wishful thinking on what I would do relative to last year's timeline of things and having that updated for tonight Which it didn't happen, but the piece that it it serves For us is that If you know your summer plans of when you will not be available Those are coming together for you if you would be so kind as to share those with me so that I might Shape our our planning for our performance evaluation And we do we will need to have a little bit more conversation about that evaluation because I think you know given the transition It it is going to be a slightly different process we go through As far as that's really that we'll not evaluate the goals that we set for the manager, but but how we Frame our responses may be a little different given that the Select board is going away and a council is coming in and so it may change how we want to do it It may not but we have the conversation But I think the two real key points is it's coming in and if you could share with me any known Vacation or other plans that prevent you from attending any currently scheduled meetings I don't mind starting to come together for the summer, but not fully in place But it may require us if I get feedback from people and we may want to change some dates or we may want to Sort of shape our timeline relative to when people can be in town or are in town So I just suggest maybe you send us a follow-up to tonight I mean sorry responsibility, but like a reminder like hey Send me your dates by next whatever and then we see that email and we're like, oh, yeah And you know going through and then send you what we do know so far. Um, I think we're all probably Not totally settled on what we're doing, but we know some of it But if you wouldn't mind in a couple days or soon doing that electronically So it's something like we can reply back to absolutely absolutely I think a couple of meetings ago at a pre-town meeting session. We did get last time's calendar In terms of how the process worked and so if we are sticking with the same process Which obviously we haven't discussed yet as you just indicated, but you know on the one hand Maybe not bothering to change now might also not be a bad idea Is those dates are coming right up in terms of if we if And I think we were in a different position now than if we knew this was a continuing process I think we might argue more about Discuss amongst ourselves in a very helpful way about How we might ask for staff input because we've struggled with some with the forms and the format, etc of those in the past But if we're going to just go ahead and say hey one last time we'll do it the same way It's fairly quickly that that starts happening and then is over and those deadlines are usually in the beginning of july First staff to get that information back. So if anybody has a big thought about Changing it now. I think you should express that to mr. Slaughter now rather than two weeks from now because That that that's going to just start having to roll out right So it's in it's entirely likely given that we're meeting If memory serves and actually as our sheet says we meet next week and then it's two weeks So we meet the 11th and then the 25th and certainly what I would like to do is At our meeting on the 11th have this topic again, but also have Handouts in advance of that with dates and times and and again probably mimicking what we did last time And we can also in in the meantime people can certainly feedback to me if they want or just save it for Monday's discussion if we think we should do our feedback from staff differently or Not or those sort of things could we include with that the goals again? Some of the materials, um, I think we still have This purple here for This week and three days, but just whatever we this is going to this is going to fall We're going to fall to the transition in that position as we get going. So whatever I mean, I think we can probably find most of this, but just it would help me to look at Or the evaluation tool and the goals You may remember more in the schedule, of course Basically those three pieces because of course At least two of them are readily available on the website But we don't really get paid enough to have that many printer ink cartridges So, um, yeah, it's nice to have like a kit of all the things and start putting that in its own folder Right, exactly. So thank you for the reminders of some of that, but also, um, it's helpful to me as far as Being myself organized this week in preparation for both agenda review agenda setting and and Just my own sort of work to prepare some materials. You really guide us in that review process So is there anything any any other topics about the evaluation and goal? Well goal setting may be Very different conversation But nonetheless, um I think anything else on that agenda item. If not, we'll we'll move ahead if we'll so get us through this transition That won't be the goal. That's right. Well, I think that I think that one of the things that would be that we might actually almost want to spend In some ways more time on as we're going through and doing our individual evaluations is be thinking about We often have a bunch of stuff we write at the end and kind of the open space Is be thinking about what are our recommendations to the future council as to you know We did this if we decided to just do it the same way again, which it's an awesome process Come on. It has its limitations, but it's a good process. We've developed over the years That it has its limitations and these we went ahead and did it the same way because it was Just going to save time to do that But we would really recommend you look at this this this and this as being things that You know rather than just trying to exactly copy what we were doing even as amazing as we think it is We know that we have challenges with it and that way they can start thinking about like we can include that somehow in our Evaluation as a you know notes to our future selves kind of thing that Then they can be thinking about that from the beginning right as opposed to oh, right. We have to go ahead and evaluate that person I've certainly thought about that as well as what is the advice we want to give The council as far as this because the other piece that we do, you know, we composite five Um evaluations into a single one. It's how do they do that with 13 people? That's a much different Animal than than five and I having done the five one before More than twice as many is is a daunting task to say the least and so is there a you know I think we should all sort of think about as their advice We can give them about how to go about that process and and yet still be true to you know, open meeting law We saw things recently. I think that you may have shared with us Ms. Brewer regarding some communities that were not really doing their evaluation quite in alignment with with open meeting law and and so we want to you know Be You know careful to advise them about that as well So they they don't you know drop into any pitfalls that that most likely unintentional, but nonetheless can be problematic It makes me think um when we're doing the evaluation. I think it's certainly helpful as Ms. Brewer suggests to make some notes about you know advice me I want to give but maybe when we spend more time than that in one of our regular sessions or maybe a separate session where we work on a letter from this board to the future council that's A little more generic of it. Here's some things we've struggled with You may want to this is what we think you might want to Think about or you know, it'll be sort of that movie about Schmidt and we'll wrap it all in nice package and give it to them And they'll like put it over here and never look at it again But I think we might want to develop that idea into something that we actually have a document broader than just the manager evaluation that's our letter to the future council I'm talking about chapter one Seriously because it's going to take more than one meeting to do that and I think that it makes more sense for us to try And consider doing it on kind of a piece part basis like okay right now. We're talking about evaluations Well having that awareness in doing let's make sure we make some notes And so even if it never turns into this amazingly beautifully documented thing, but it's one second section a and another section is about project management or whatever But I think it's if we try and just save it up for a whole working session I think we're going to be slamming our heads not disagreeing But you're right. We need to think about everything in light So what I'm hearing just to since we've Wanted into this path a little bit as a topic for our future agendas as much as we talk about charter transition up, you know update Maybe a part of that is this sort of compilation of ideas and and advice So I may see if we can More explicitly put that on to our agenda in the future Make note of that how So if people want to Offer suggestion about how that could be in our agenda on a regular basis now we might approach just even Having good conversations and get things recorded. I'll take that advice For sure I did just one quick question. Do you know if mr. Wald is when mr. Wald is coming back because he's vice chair for june I know I do That was well played on his part. He's away until june 26th and he's he's back on june 26th and away july 5th to 14th I was wondering about Ms. Brewer is the next Vice chair if she and mr. You should just take this under advisement not decide this now whether You should approach ms. Brewer mr. Wald about flipping some dates so that you have a vice chair and benefit of ms. Brewer's experience with organizing the evaluation process That actually crossed my mind this evening when we before the meeting we discussed When mr. Wald was being bagged I didn't realize he was going to be gone quite so much of june as he is but Anyway, we will I will take that under advisement. So thank you for that and so I think we'll go to our next agenda item unless there's something else we want to bring up on the last one there and that is In section five committee board appointments and reappointments The main thing is an announcement. We are by law review committee as Stipulated by the charter There's a three member Committee and we've had a resignation of one of those members and so we will need to find Replacement for that person fairly soon because I think their ability to participate is perhaps Been exhausted. So I think they're actually going to be One person short in the short term so We will need to get ourselves A new person to serve in that role Unless someone had someone off hand Oh, I've already had two people turn me down um Three actually But the if we could send us this this is is this now in our packet this one Because we it's not on the page and the page is really good The charge it's it's been added since I asked because it's not day you asked Well, no one told me the text was on the page and then the doctor was actually no one told me it got added So that's great because like every hour Yeah, I look every hour to see if people follow up on the things I ask about sure That would be a productive use of my time And so thank you because I have been sending people there to read.  Mr. Kravitz has been an amazing support to them. So Um, thank you because that really helps people understand what they're signing up for in addition to referring to To talk to Ms. Moran in between packing boxes Exactly Can I just add for people who are watching and don't know what I'm talking about? So one of the people on the on the committee had warned us when they accepted the appointment That they were on the brink of a life change that involved moving and that they would serve as long as they could in that Uh came about sooner than they might have thought they didn't know when it would happen. So it's not that um, You know, they they left because they couldn't stand the committee Right And accepted it with a caveat and then all happened really quickly and so we appreciate Her her willingness to try to serve and it just didn't work out. Absolutely. Yeah, there's there's no drama on the committee It's actually probably a very good group of folks to work with and so because I went to uh their last meeting on the 29th and Observed how they work and what they're working on and and they're really it's a it is a it's a good group of folks and You know, there's a significant task ahead of them and they're they're approaching in a very thoughtful Precise way in a lot of ways and so they they do need that additional person to really help to share the workload So we will keep this on the agenda until appointed You can decide that tomorrow, right? I think we'll decide but yeah I Probably be safest in that way. We wouldn't forget If somebody turns up at the last minute All right, so I think that through most of that stuff Do we want to um Take care of the licenses on our agenda right now or do we want to get back to our discussion of of uh, Town meeting or do you want to get other open to suggestion from the board? So I I would lean toward Sort of taking care of the licenses and Working our way through those Okay, I'm going to make the motion on seven double i because there's a slight change to the wording of the motion on the motion sheet with the removal of a word of the date sunday in the Third line that I will move to approve the application of The kind grind incorporated doing business as Shared coffee roasters for a common vitriolers license to operate on the premises of 178 north pleasant street monday Through sunday 7 a.m. To 11 p.m. Marissa smith manager. Is there a second second? Thank you for catching. It's there. Is there further discussion? Hearing none all those in favor, please say aye. Aye post that's unanimous with one absent Please continue. I move to approve the application of in russian america llc doing business is shiru Cafe for a common vitriolers license to operate on the premises of 17 keloch avenue Monday to sunday 8 30 a.m. To 10 p.m Usuke Kakamoto manager Is there a second second To further discussion as much as I'd love to just treat this all as consent calendar I think it's only fair that we let the community know that this is an unusual Business model and they can go and check it out when it actually opens But this of course is in the former just as sharers moving over to what was shale bear This is the current share space that's becoming the shiru cafe And because we don't have anything else quite like it in town in terms of Coffee is free for students who have Signed into an app basically and provided information and so it will be a really interesting way of potentially drawing more college students Into downtown specifically for that But people should not be surprised when they walk in and it's not just another coffee shop And they can find out more about how it works when it opens Actually, I think thanks to you. It was an article. It's in the packet for this meeting Is there further discussion Hearing none all those in favor, please say I I Move to approve the request for reservation of two meter parking spaces immediately in front of the greenfield savings bank branch 108 north pleasant street on july 5 2018 to park eric carl's signature Volkswagen bugs for the art night plus event featuring eric carl's artwork kim illy business development Specialists zero second Is there further discussion? Yes. So is this in the category of they pay us for the use of the space or not? That was sometimes we have a fee attached to these motions and there's not one here. So Rather than having to decide each one. I wonder what the rule is and I think this I'm guessing this does not because the next one it it cites the fee. So I'm guessing this is not based on Criteria, that's Well, I think it's because it's part of art tonight, which means the I'm not saying that's the right reason, but I'm saying I think that may be it, but I'm not We have time if we want to defer this so I'm not saying whether that's a good or bad thing. I just It's pretty fuzzy Yeah, actually I'm sorry and maybe mr. Steinberg explaining it does it say the hours that's what I was looking for actually Oh, yeah, the date to bag the meter is on july 5th from 9 a.m. To 8 p.m. I think they're paying for it I I don't see any reason why they wouldn't why they wouldn't and so I think we should Consider our motion should indicate that they should pay for it And if they have a problem with that then we can revisit it But it would only be $10 and it's only one space. I just don't understand Right two spaces. I don't I I just don't While I I am obviously understanding the difference between a dumpster and a nice eric carl Volkswagen bug I I just don't understand the justification of taking central parking away during an event where people come down to So, um, I would think that that would be something we would charge for So, I guess the question is do we want to Um Not take action on it tonight and take action on it next week and get that clarified Or do we want to take action on it inclusive of the fee? That's what you should do that would be my assumption and then if there's a problem Yeah, okay, so let's add two at ten dollars Per day per meter for a total of 20 dollars Yeah The seconder accepts that amendment Is there further discussion? Hearing none all those in favor, please say aye Aye Um Yes, I'm sorry We should have also corrected it to say from 9 a.m. To 8 p.m. Because The subsequent one does I think there was just was just left out I'm saying the hours aren't listed and they should be because we know what they are Yeah, and so just not with a squeeze that in there someplace 9 a.m. Take p.m. As part of the motion assuming the mover and seconder agree. Yes, surely Thank you I move to prove the request of ramble for reservation of four-metered parking spaces on the west side of the amity street Lot adjacent to the bank of america parking lot on friday june 8 2018 from 8 a.m. To 6 p.m. For the delivery and removal of office furniture 10 dollars per day per meter for a total of 40 dollars Since the old americ executive assistant Second there's a second. Is it for the discussion? Hearing none all those in favor, please say aye all right So do you want to go on to the consent calendar questions? Yes, please So what I was would I wrote for e? I wanted to go back to that first and then I'm going to because everything else will get moved as a consent Calendar is a single item that we've already dealt with this before I would suggest something along these lines move to approve the reservation of metered parking spaces bordering the town common for Artisan unloading and Cleanup for the big brothers big sisters crafts on the common event 13 on the east side of south pleasant street and 21 on the west side of boltwood avenue beginning At collard street and progressing north to the intersection of spring street beginning at 9 a.m. On friday june 22 9 p.m. Not yet right 9 p.m. On friday june 22 2018 and then period And by the way, mr. Bachman, I will send this to you if it's adopted. So you The first five meet and then next sentence the first five metered parking spaces on south pleasant street beginning at the intersection of spring street moving south to remain reserved Until 7 a.m. On saturday june 23 2018 The remaining reserved until 9 a.m. On saturday june 23 28 2018 And again on saturday june 20 30 2018 from 3 30 p.m. To 6 30 p.m period So I think that that all the spaces Uh including the the five I believe That are being released at 7 a.m But those five plus the others are all being reserved on the afternoon of From 3 30 to 6 30 correct. Okay We could actually put that in And all spaces right This just gets more and more complicated It'll come out. All right. All right. So it'll be so um, so the ending will be and all spaces On saturday june 23 2018 from 3 30 p.m. To 6 30 p.m So I'll take that as a motion to amend the original motion. Was there second on that second? All right Is there any further discussion on that amendment? Hearing none all those in favor, please say aye Aye And so that would be an amended motion for that To supplant the other we're actually doing some work for the future council because next year And um then I move To approve the items listed on the consent calendar for june 4 2018 Agenda As presented except for part e Is there further discussion? Hearing none all those in favor, please say aye Aye Okay, so that's taken care of I just have a quick yes, please I'm meant to bring this up way back on the first page when we were back with ramble who I mispronounced their name for the Formated parking spaces in the what the cinema often thinks of as its lot or the library often thinks of as its lot If we could please and I realize staff time is at a premium right now But if we could please advise both the library and the cinema that we know that that's there So that and and it's during the day And so hopefully won't have a huge impact on either one of those facilities But just so that if they get complaints that they know that we did it on purpose But sometimes people just have to move I shouldn't put the dumpster Also, it's important to know it was authorized the next somebody just does it with it with a couple of cones and decides Because we have seen that happen. Yes, that is a good point So now heading back into our agenda I guess we'll take up our our Conversation about the annual town meeting and wrap up in discussion And so I think if if We would like to discuss Some of the topics that are a result of town meeting And its outcomes I'm gonna pull back my memo on that, but who would like to go first? Well, I appreciate what mr. Steinberg said, you know why why talk about it. It's possibly quite quite likely the last one As a select board meeting, but I think it's Okay to say I found it very a very difficult meeting. Um, I think there were a lot of subtexts going around and I feel good about the work that this board put in as a board and as individual members As usual a lot of preparation and thoughtfulness about getting ready every Night before town meeting we had an hour-long meeting and pretty much used all of that a lot in preparation for town meeting and You know, I found the budget amendments very very difficult and Um, I found that the tenor of the meeting Difficult, I think we dealt with it in a Professional and in even manner, but I just want to acknowledge that it was hard I think it was hard for town meeting members for all kinds of different reasons Um, but I think we you know also the staff and mr. Backelman It took a lot of work to prepare and Um I just wanted to acknowledge I think there's a hard one and I feel good about the work that we did and a lot of um things that we care about were approved including the budget and the capital budget and some important zoning happened and um Even though it's not necessarily Something to pass on like a way to improve something and make it more efficient and we It's okay to spare a minute to just talk about what our experience was And I would just like to incur regarding the the hard work. I think especially of staff. It was it was you know, we're all sort of operating in a bit of a Unknown state as it was about how how to deal with certain topics and certain issues and a lot of fluidity to To the meeting and the potential motions and that sort of thing And I know that Mr. Backelman and staff town council all had to do You know, they they always do a lot of work around town meeting But I think especially so this time and so that's greatly appreciated by us And so I want to convey that to you as well as to the staff and town council That that that work was appreciated and we understand how Uh, difficult it was for everybody and and I think you're right I think it's you know, it was difficult for our town meeting members It was difficult for us as participants of finance committee school committee I think everybody had a lot of struggle in a lot of ways because there were a lot of questions and a lot of Um, you know unknowns and so it was a a tricky meeting in a lot of ways and and But I do think we you know got to reason a lot comes by and large and and You know again, you know kudos to you and staff and council on on helping us through that I mean not just that to let not just appreciated but that it was noticed even though we're sitting up there with our Straight faces on but it doesn't mean we're not aware of the amount of work that and their presence there Right to where they're other Oh, yeah Just getting started so One of the other things I wanted to follow up along those lines and again all of our appreciation to staff and One of the things that I look forward to in the future from government is not putting staff To sit in the back of the room for hours at a stretch with comp time in the future And then being away from their families and it turns out. Oh, yeah, you're not getting to your article tonight anyway like that That there are immense patience With that and their willingness to continue to show up because it's the form of government that we have had all this time I think really speaks to a lot and I sometimes think that people in the audience do not Respect the amount of effort and time you do your job all day long And then you're still sitting there just in case your thing comes up tonight and just in case there are questions tonight And they can't always read everyone's mind as to what they might be asked Another thing that made things particularly awkward that I don't think we can really say is a note to the future council but just to remind ourselves why things Felt perhaps more fraught than usual in many cases Was because we'd had the awkward interaction where we believed that we were going to be acting on certain town meeting articles And then the moderator changed his mind as to what we were going to do with those articles And so it just made that much more work because we were trying to figure out Multiple plays on every single situation Given the circumstances there and so yes town meetings always a lot of work. There's always a lot of prep There's always people sitting in the back of the room But when you layer on all these other difficulties It did make it that much more challenging And so I was personally more short-tempered with things because we had gone through so much Associated with trying to figure that out and trying to give the right guidance Not because we necessarily were particularly beholden to a particular opinion But when the playing field changed it made it difficult for us. So I appreciated that Um, I did write down early on and then I kind of lost interest in doing so but some questions to follow up on in terms of The kinds of questions people have that we do hear fairly regularly and we aren't always as prepared to Say in a concise way and that's partly because they're complex issues like op-ed Where how at least half the room is like I know it's a big thing. I know we have to do it Let's do it. We're done And it could just be a consent calendar item because they've heard enough about it over time that they know It's just an obligation But there are always some people who do want to hear more about well What for example that happens if the region isn't putting enough money in and then You know as things play out into the future. How does that work? And so Being better prepared I think to think about those things and to be able to remind people as we Eventually do during every session about how the enterprise funds work Oh, but except that enterprise fund that doesn't actually have enough money to do that Etc. It's just a lot for people to absorb for that small segment of people who actually want to try and understand that better And I'm just not sure how much more we can put in writing I'm not saying there's a perfect solution to that because it is just a very complex topic But it um, it sometimes throws people for a loop In terms of our ems. I think that we we have not always done a great job of explaining where our calls are coming from And I think we could do a little bit better with that instead of making More broad estimates associated with UMass use and with downtown use and with senior citizens use etc I think there should be more of a cheat sheet available When those kinds of questions come up around the budget because I know people talk about it in great detail While the budgets are being developed and the finance committee puts a lot in the book But being able to just go ahead and Spout off a couple of those statistics I think would be really helpful to people because people do make a lot of assumptions about how those things work Yeah, and um And so it doesn't seem like we're just kind of you know going with it on the spot Even though everybody does implicitly trust I think largely the public safety chiefs And finally associated with because again, I'm I mean how many nights did I actually do this for me before I stopped But associated with our sidewalk planning and figuring out because more and more people have become interested in our sidewalks And rather than saying well, you can find this much information in the jcpc, etc It's probably another project page. We need some place to be able to point people towards so that during the run up to Budget discussions in future council meetings people can go and refresh themselves on what all the planning is associated with that just putting out more and more information because Again, you know a lot of that was discussed in great detail at jcpc meetings But it doesn't all make it into the report and just having a place to be able to go and say This is where the big thinking is around sidewalks. I think would help people to show that yeah, we do have plans Actually, we're not just doing this on a you know a very casual basis There is a a well thought out process behind this and maybe there are gaps in the way we've been explaining that to people I think the tac is still Getting to that place. Yes, they can be very helpful. I think they're in that in that process of articulating that plan of Prioritized work. I guess is best way to describe it as well as you know, how does The complete streets piece fit in with sidewalk because that's part of the complete streets vision Speaking which we have that to sign tonight before we leave Um But I think that that's will hopefully become a more prominent part of the the tac's work and their page is to have that both From a street standpoint, but also inclusive sidewalk bike lanes all of those conversations so that when You know capital planning is going on You have a sense of where the where the Work will happen Just if I could interject something I uh about the sidewalk street planning, but particularly sidewalks It happened at town meeting. It happened at gent capital planning committee probably happened Council meetings When you start talking about sidewalk needs people immediately think about their street or their sidewalk Even at jcpc, but oh well I live on in that intersection is really bad because it's what they know And I you know, but they immediately and it was happening in town Many people immediately started talking about the one they knew about and When there is more information when tac has that list people want to go Look and see where their street or their intersection or their sidewalk is on the list and it goes a long way Towards answering their questions if they oh It's in the third year because that's when there's this other, you know, whatever it is, but people immediately relate the conversation to their own Kind of piece of neighborhood. So that's just it seems to be human nature because it was happening Well, the thing I think about is that with the streets because we've gone through with I think scan streets the name of the company that goes through and does a grade on each of the streets on the Roadway portion of it if we have some similar type of metric for our sidewalks I mean, there's more to it than just the condition of it But you know if if that's a place that tac gets to as far as Either a rubric for organizing or and and so then people have that as a touchstone To then go and look at maybe some other section of town when they say wow That's way ahead of mind wise so much and they go to that street and they realize Oh, that sidewalks, you know crumbling or whatever So scan street can do sidewalks too. They have a similar machine Segway that goes on alongside and does it the same kind of analysis I felt like the $20,000 was going to be I'd rather just spend it on sidewalks than a machine looking at sidewalks because we have so so many needs So I mean there are some debates as to whether Where the priority is on some sidewalks Clearly sidewalks when roads are being rebuilt go, you know that that's part of the project You know whether you're trying to connect centers or if you're trying to do loops that people walk in loops sometimes that and And so one of the things that we looked at actually is Strava, which is the The fitness app you can get the data from anybody who wears it where they where they travel because it collects the data And you can sort of superimpose where the heavy use things instead of just sort of eyeballing things and like that That's at least one source of data. That's already existing in the world So amy resecchia suggests that we look at something like that So there's different ways of looking at the whole sidewalk thing We don't have a lot of money to do sidewalks and we have a little bit but not as much as we obviously need Mr. Simon Yeah, I mean the only thing I would add to some of the comments that have been made is that It's important to distinguish between Items that will come up in the future from the council and to remember that We now are getting into a legislative body that is going to be meeting on a regular basis throughout the year Possibly we'll assume bi-weekly and told them that we know otherwise They haven't figured out their own schedule yet Obviously because they haven't elected But once they do, you know, they will be in a pattern where they can Request information and then the proper staff person we can be scheduled to come in and doesn't have to wait And information can just be provided to them in the ongoing course of doing business and I think that that's one of the advantages of Having something that meets year-round as opposed to having a body that meets for a short period of time twice a year and That is distinguishable from what we were just talking about which is an item that We would urge Recognition and I think managers aware of this that there's a large body of public that would like that information and how Not to make it accessible Just to the council is the legislative body But how we make something available to the public and information where the public has a great interest in some of those are two distinguishable things And my last comment is is we're extending thank yous. I would also like to extend the thank you to Superintendent Morris and mr. Angano In particular because there were a number of questions that came up regarding school issues and They were extremely responsive in getting information back to town meeting quickly and I think they'd serve our thanks for that Thank you. I appreciate the thanks but Provide to the schools employees but also to you know trying to sort of segment Which kinds of things are the things that are like websites where you can find your street and you can find your sidewalk versus the actual Council needing to look at it and then looking at it throughout the year at a scheduled time So that will be really handy for everyone including the people who are watching at home Who've already looked up their sidewalk and now know they're going to talk about it on a particular night as opposed to some randomly scheduled night Um, this is the part where you may wish to dissociate yourselves with me But this is the part that's going to get a little bit tricky in terms of how to say this That's not going to offend people and I don't think it's going to work that I'm still going to end up offending people TMCC and eventually TMAC since TMAC has been elected Um has worked really hard to get a lot of information out to people They've been excellent at providing handouts in our packets And I think that that sort of thing will you know be an important thing for the councils Whatever employees to work with the town manager to figure out ways to do that sort of thing To help, you know make processes clearer. I think that's really helpful to people I do have substantial concerns about the style of What we used to call precinct meetings and became warrant review meetings Because we used to distinguish because we said there was one thing that was a warrant review meeting That was sponsored by the legal women voters and TMCC And then there were precinct meetings and those became more broad because people realized that people in a neighborhood couldn't necessarily I'll show up at a certain time on a certain day and so they said anybody could come to them My problem with those and I understand that we are going to have a we have some structure in the new charter associated with us but in terms of the suggestions To future people on the council to really think hard not only about What those specific outreach meetings are that they're required to have in the in the charter that No one's been required to have up until this point. So that'll be a new thing. They'll already be figuring out But also to consider other topic specific meetings that are Staffed so to speak by people who know the answers to the questions people are going to ask I remain incredibly frustrated that we would go to town meeting having everyone worked on everything And people would talk about things they learned at review meetings that were not based on facts They were based on opinions and there had not been adequate Factual information provided at those in those settings And so I just would caution our future counselors as they come up with those meetings within their districts To work very carefully with staff to find out. Okay. Is there a thing that I really need? Expertise on here to answer questions associated with or that I say I'll go find that out From those people and come back rather than expecting staff again to go to 80 bazillion things But at the same time Having just experienced it with unfortunately being at the time period when we thought we were not going to be acting on certain articles And then finding out two days later that we were Which obviously didn't make for that pleasant of a conversation at the particular warrant review I was at them, but it was no different than any other warrant review. I've ever been to which has been many over the years and There was this Feeling that it was for the people who'd shown up to talk about what they were concerned about and that's very valuable But at the same time there were people there who were there to learn about the articles And they were not hearing even two sides of the issue much less the three or five sides of the issue that may have come out And so I found them in some ways to be Negatively rather than beneficial toward the legislative process and that's one of the reasons I was hesitant to deal with TMAC as well and obviously TMAC doesn't have anything to do if there aren't any town meetings But I hope that people will think hard about what they're trying to accomplish in those things And balance that with working carefully with Through the town manager as to what expectations are of staff because I know that over the years It also became clear that There were some people who believed they should just go directly to staff and expect staff to show up for certain things and that All those kinds of standards I think are really important things for the future council to look at and for the town manager to be really clear about That things need to go through the town manager and that things when there are public meetings That we need to understand how we're educating people because we need to be making It doesn't I don't even think the word balanced is exactly the right word It's that There has to be someone there can who can explain the actual situation that's on the table and then people can disagree with facets of it But to not even be able to explain what the basic issue is I think is very unfortunate and does it a service to our community the terms I'm thinking of our information versus advocacy Yes, and sort of keeping those distinctions clear And there's a place for both right um Like for example tonight when mr. Steinberg asked mr. Moreing about the one-way decision That was we got a factual answer from somebody who knew rather than Mr. People's well, you know, I saw it this way or there but what I wanted to say is I know we have the um guidance document from kp law clarifying special town meeting requirements And I wonder because I did wonder when we elected the team act and um voted for TMCC again thinking if there aren't going to be any more town meetings What will these people do and maybe being clear about expectations of we're thinking It's our direction that we're not going to have Special town meetings except in the narrow band given in that to maybe Right to that group if they have meetings planned over the summer with it Thought or an expectation that there might be a fall special town meeting Because I think I've heard from people that expectation. Maybe we we kind of owe it to Um team act and DMCC to clarify Where our board is at about special town meetings So they're not going on one set of assumptions and we're going on another set of assumptions But also maybe be an opportunity to thank TMCC for all the service they have provided To town meeting but I think we're making an assumption or have an expectation based on kp law Whether they even read it or not and their expectations may be really different so I would say if If the board thinks that that's a worthwhile thing to do that I might compose a letter of that sort Not terribly lengthy, but just to sort of articulate You know from from that it's directly to them. So as opposed to them Yeah, you know again talking about sort of meetings in public Right it's it's a bit more proactive to reach out to them and have that conversation So I would I'd be willing to write that That and then probably circulate amongst you for feedback and go from there Right because it's basically a cover it can be a cover memo to that exact document that we have the url But our interpretation Of that I think would be really valuable for people Everybody knows we're on the same page Yeah, thank you for that suggestion and I will Compose that I have a like meeting schedules weeks. I'm offering myself to do that I'll remind you at the end of the week Yeah, if you don't see something by Right So are there other comments or Topics we wanted to ring bring up relative to to town meetings And and sort of wrapping that up Make sure we have an opportunity to sort of clear that out and hopefully mr. Wald will share any thoughts he might have via email in the short term, but Um, thank you for giving us opportunity. No, it's absolutely. I'm glad that we I fully remember I'd forgotten that when I was moving us along in the agenda And so I'm glad you reminded me because it is a valuable process that we go through in in having that conversation Um So I think next on our agenda is is we'll go to the town manager's report. Okay. Um, thank you, mr. Chair First I Everybody I hope knows Ms. Deborah Pupple is retiring Her last day of work will be Thursday of this week We had a really nice gathering and on Friday afternoon and the chair spoke and People several people complimented me on your speech Because they really thought it was moving and I think She uh, mr. Pupple was really pleased I think and has expressed that to people about the number of people who showed up The select board members who who were in town who showed up and the former select board members and represents from the university of massachusetts and um, you know department heads and colleagues and She was and I thought was real. I was really happy that her husband and her mother and her sister were there because Sometimes they don't really appreciate they don't understand how much people appreciate Their daughter or sister or wife and this is it was a really great venue for people to articulate how much Ms. Pupple meant to the community and the work and that she Did over the course of the years especially during that those really traumatic times when she She didn't want to keep it together, but had to keep it together while everybody else was not keeping it together so and A lot of people you know Others have said a lot of people have received credit for that, but she was really a pivotal person In that whole scenario as well so And then we also know that we'll talk more about this later Ms. Burgess will be retiring at the end of june But i'm pleased to announce that we have two very excellent candidates who have appointed in their to Fill their roles first margaret nardowitz will be returning as to the town is town clerk She's a town government veteran Who's Was hired by stan zomek in 1988 as a clerical assistant in the dpw And then was transferred to the town got transferred to the town clerk's office And she eventually served as assistant town clerk Acting town clerk and town clerk until 2003 and then she um If their children at a certain age decide she went to work part-time and became the town administrator in sunderland and then I'm currently serving as a town administrator in ruttland This was an opportunity. She was eager to embrace. It's uh And so she's very excited to return to the town of amherst So if someone who's experienced both as a town clerk and as a town administrator, which i'm really pleased about because Of the role that this town clerk will I anticipate will play in terms of both Being the town clerk, but also helping to serve the new council much as the town clerk serves the town meeting now I'm hoping that the council will see that uh, miss nardowitz will be that person to do that um really happy about that uh very strong applicant pool and It's a tough decision But she was certainly with that that combination of qualifications rose to the top As terms of the executive assistant to the town manager I've hired angela mills who is currently administrative assistant at crocker farm elementary school and She is an amherst resident graduate of amherst college parent and sports coach Who's worked at crocker farm for eight years while her children Were young now they're a little bit older and she's eager to take on a new challenge and work a year round She's also worked at smith college trinity college and north field mount herman school She she did a tremendous Job but through the interview process and and is a a real Person who gets things done, which is really something That we all know with miss papples experience We need someone who's able to take on tasks and and make decisions and get things get things done Um So, uh, miss nardowitz has to give 60 days notice under her contract with ruttland So she won't start until august 1 she was in last friday And she's going to be coming in on fridays to work with miss burgess Over the course of the summer so she can start to get up to speed on some of the election stuff that she's out of date on She'll be obviously going to school for for additional to get the updates on town clerk things There'll be one month in between where miss adet the assistant town clerk has agreed to serve as the acting town clerk For the month of july because these are all going to be critical times with the election dates and things like that So it's really fortunate that we have miss adet who's totally experienced in in this work as well Ready to step in and we'll you know handle the work without without missing a beat miss mills We've agreed that uh, she will finish out the school year at crocker farm and then we'll move over to us Probably around july 1st depending on her schedule and her kid schedules basically um, and so there We will have a few weeks without Without anybody in that position, but miss purple has agreed to come back When miss mills is available the full time to help Guide her through the the job um We had a really strong interview committees, uh who helped review the candidates and put them through their paces The town clerk screening committee included robert pam Joan rebeeng Jeff cravis k moran and joan Missy azek From my office for the hr office And for the executive assistant we had Stephanie o'Keefe deb radway dave zo mac and brianna sunrid um All put in a lot of time reviewed there were a lot of candidates for both positions very competitive positions, but really felt like we um Hit home runs with both positions And felt we had a pretty deep talent pool of people who had applied So that was it was really gratifying to see the number of people who are eager to work for the town Of very high quality and typically I think miss purple said this The reason she came to amherst because she was came from as a small town administrator was that She went to work with a group of talented colleagues, and that's what she found and That's what several of these people said well I want to work with a team of people who are really good at their jobs And that's what was inspiring me so very happy with those those are the big news for us and those are Big relief for us a big effort by the um deb radway and joan to make all this come together That's a lot of logistics and confidentiality that has to be played and They did a great job A few other things I want to mention is you've got the written report and I'm just going to highlight a few things The next cup of joe's friday is going to be at amherst coffee with economic development director jeff cravitz We're talking about economic development a lot this summer. I thought he would be a good person to be there to Help answer questions, but anybody can come back come around and talk to anything about anything there um There will be some The uh sculptures that were were discussed with the board before they've relocated all the sculptures to kendrick park So we will have four temporary sculptures placed into kendrick park one thing that um, I want to make a point of is that um There there are going to be some trees taken down, but it's not related to this The tree warden said over the past six years We've been removing remnants of an old hemlock hedge on kendrick park as they have declined or died from hemlock woolly Delagid The day I made the call to remove the remaining trees since they were either dead or would be in a couple years um And he just he was saying that the crosstown art installations Don't have anything to do with it, but it will seem like it to people But there are two separate events and he's been meaning to do this um We talked about the social services funding. Um, we talked about the factory hollow dyke So, um about the charter change Oh So and I was really pleased that uh the lssc staff were at south point to gather information from people and um, I went David and I went down there and it was sort of a not a great day But they set up at a great place because they were in between the residences and where the mailboxes are So everybody had to walk by them if they're going to go to their mailbox um I've uh invited a consultant in to do a review of operations on the first floor of our offices And I think I mentioned this to you before that, um, you know, we have Of you know, as soon to be vacant town clerk position. We have a the treasure collector position vacant We have a number of people who are anticipating retiring or know their date already or Are thinking about things and um What I really felt the need for is someone who would look at this objectively in terms of creating a three five seven year plan For how we were going to be staffing that entire first floor Um, so for relatively short money, we've hired a person who's the has it been a treasure collector Her name is marine valente Um has also been town administrator town manager in the town of sudbury And also by happenstance the executive director of the mass school building authority Very in worked at the international city management association Very experienced person. She's been here. She's interviewed a number of people She's going to talk to everyone on the first floor understand what their jobs are what their concerns are and try to help Think through some of the things that um staffing Decisions help me think through the staffing decisions as we move forward over the next few years So we have a game plan on where we're going um This is typically something that I think that the finance director would Would do but we don't have someone in that In that position at this moment in time and but I still need that high level thinking and And I think she will provide that and so that's where the funds will be coming from from the finance director's salary basically um Speaking communities want to highlight that the official groundbreaking is june 14th Um, and the chair will be speaking at that along with and there's some hope that the governor will show up And that's that'd be really exciting if he did. It's a big project um Many of you were at the bank center For the busani center opening. They received their final permits on june 1st and um again the chair spoke at that and um The official opening date for the um busani center is now set for june 11th We talked about the north common health insurance the Change to a new health insurance Fully insured product is going around around really well along again hr has been handling most of this along with k Zoologar and um school staff. We've had 22 Um information meetings Typically I do a little present, you know two or three two to five minute presentation about why we're doing things and then the blue cross and my my people explain what we're doing and that's been Those have been really good people have been pretty receptive. Some people Upset about the change and they express that but you know, that's to be under to be expected Um We have two people, uh, amy roosecki and holly bowser who've been accepted into the Suffolk university mma certificate in local government leadership and management program That's we'll begin in september. It's really good. It's a it's a very competitive academic program Uh, it'd be held in north hampton. So it's convenient to everybody. It's 25 days of class five graduate level courses and there's two people who Aspire to be leaders in the in the community In the town and we're really eager to cultivate their interest in being being leaders and developing a broader range of expertise in hr and finance in strategic planning and all the different Community involvement things that that you need to be a good community leader and I think that's that's enough for questions happy to answer them Questions for the manager No, it's up to his report or not Um, well, thank you for that. Um informative What's that? I'm sorry. It's just very informative. Thank you. Yes. There was absolutely So I would say we could yes go ahead Actually, this is something I'd like to have Find some way to discuss appropriately at a future meeting Which is as a follow-up on the public comment. We received earlier Associated with the bid. I am not asking for the same things the public comment person asked for however what I am asking about is for the town manager to remind us About the fact that the town is part of the bid And so I remain somewhat concerned about the fact that the bid wrote a letter that said something that The town is therefore party to if the town is part of the bid and the same in a similar vein There was information associated with town minigar a call on inclusionary zoning Where the bid had hired an attorney to refute what the town was trying to do And I just am trying to understand and and hope that we could have a brief Discussion about that at some point in the future How the town hires an attorney to sue itself over a zoning article So that that it which is not I'm sure the way the bid would describe it But that is kind of how it turns out when you're a member of the bid and the bid goes and does something like that. So I would like a better understanding of how that works moving forward and that applies to The council as well in terms of understanding how that role Of the town fits in as a bid member as opposed to just a partner so to speak when there are points of conflict between What the bid Membership may want to do versus the town's goals. I don't think there's a lawsuit against the town by the bid No, but I think you said there was a lawsuit. There is not I should not have said that I said threatened suit against the town threatened suit against itself basically through its membership in the bid and It doesn't make sense to me that And that's the conversation I would like you to have with whoever you need to have it before you describe it to us again because if the town is a Paying member of the bid and provides certain services and lieu of money, etc And then the bid says here's what the bid thinks about this that gets starts getting a little bit muddy And they thought they should talk about a potential litigation though not an actual lawsuit Are there other I'll be here for that one So if there's not other questions for the manager, I'd Ask the members for their reports. So it's left with member reports if anyone has any Meetings or otherwise that they've gone to I will go quick ask a question of the town manager I even pulled this out of my old stack of papers for you I thought that you wanted to talk about the sustainability committee charge again at some point At some point I do Okay, but pardon me at some point at some point I do but right somehow I was under the impression It was now and so okay great. We're not ready for that. Excellent So I will mention one quick thing. I did go to the The ag com meeting This past week and and so they're heading into their dormant period when the farmers themselves Are not dormant, but there are as a committee because They're just the farmers are busy, you know when you get to this time of year and so they they typically Take this summer off and come back in september But the topping that was on their agenda was um marijuana cultivation and so I my suggestion to them was to reach out to mr. Gravitson and Have him perhaps kind of bring together some of the information specifically about that that's evolving out of the the Cannabis control commission and you know our own regulation that sort of thing just to give them And he's got time because they aren't gonna be until September but to kind of bring it together because I think It's potentially that that some folks Either farmers themselves or other businesses may reach out to farmers to to You know sort of activate cultivation in our community because we are a farming community and there may be some interest in that and given that adult use Marijuana doesn't require the vertical integration that medical marijuana that Dead I guess is the current circumstance that changes the dynamics of a lot of that So I think that's a topic that they will take up in in earnest in the in the fall Because I think they as membership and also farmers in town will also be interested in in In that topic and sort of what what the rules are what the constraints You know all those kinds of things are so that was really the primary piece of it We didn't get into any real detail at this point. But but That was what was on the agenda for the for the adcom So who would like to go next It's good because it's also only two things and one is about marijuana. So Maybe I'll do that one first because you're just talking about it. So, um The zoning articles around Marijuana establishments Past at town meetings the third time we've gone to town meeting to try to keep up with the regulatory Changes and I think we're doing a good job But today the internal working group on marijuana all things marijuana met and we hadn't met for a while because personally working on stuff for town meeting and then the town meeting period and We spent most of the meeting This brew was there as well. So I mean she may want to chime in Looking at a memo that Mr. Kravitz wrote to mr. Backelman In may in mid may 14th Which is talking about the issue of licensing we've talked about another layer of regulatory control with local licensing and in this memo Just to Snip it that I thought I think we spent most of our time with it Delaying additional retail marijuana establishments until such a time as the town develops and implements A local licensing process is a prudent course of action because of the significant interest Amherst has received by potential recreational marijuana retail operators Amherst does not currently have a policy in place to evaluate and consider the benefits of a particular Establishment vis-a-vis another potential establishment And it talks about delaying Any more decisions on for for recreational use Not the ones that are medical now and can co locate but This should be a date certain July 1st 2019 in which additional recreational retail establishments will be considered even if local licensing has not been set up Third the manager may choose to end this policy at any time prior to July 1st 2019 so we spent a lot of time My mind the local licensing process comes at the end of a number of permits and reviews And gives the town one more tool to kind of Take back a license in the way we do sort of like rental registration, but um And other people felt like it was an evaluation criteria that if we didn't like one establishment because it wasn't offering things More aligned with our goals or values We could use the licensing to reject that applicant. Maybe holding out for an applicant that was offering More of what we wanted and so We spent a lot of time talking about that and it made me think that it would be worthwhile having that conversation conversation on a future select board agenda that it's more of a community conversation I mean again, we're in uncharted waters. What is the role of the license? um Ms. Brewer had said well some communities The ccc says you don't have to just accept any old You know tom dicker harry walks through the door You can set out what your preferred criteria is in a request for a proposal kind of process. We hadn't really explored that so um Because the downtown sites that are eligible now with the buffer zone are quite limited There's sort of some competition for those and is it like first one through the door or is it the one who? um You know offers the best package whatever those elements are i'm not sure we we even know what it is that we prefer over something else but um Now that we're kind of back to thinking about the next stage of this um What would this board like to do so I was suggesting it is a as a future agenda item, but um It's kind of a fresh conversation And let me just add the only other report downtown parking working group has met last last week in the week prior we're working on finalizing a memo to The town manager on a number of points that he had come and discussed with that group and um, I'm hoping we we put it to rest Wednesday we meet um The select board has a hearing date for the changes we talked about it a couple weeks ago another memo with some immediate recommendations that are born that so There's a memo to the manager almost done and then there's a couple more meetings this summer we hope to be helping flesh out a Scope and in our PRQ for a parking consultant to work with the committee now that The budget's approved, but won't be in fact till July 1. So it's my parking update. You can tell from earlier conversations tonight It's for me. It's all of that parking pay Park you pay Anyway, um, I don't know There's anything else on them. I don't want a conversation So if I could first start with the second part of her report, which is when is the hearing? I know we talked about when we thought we might be able to schedule it, but were we able to yet? 25th, I think yeah, it's 25th because of the notice So it's our last June meeting Because we didn't think we'd have enough time to do it before the public hearing because we're going to do fisher street impact on Harris street olympia drive I'll park could we please put that in next week's packet the a copy of that notice? We haven't written yet, but sure. Oh Well, I mean, I know you have to get it sent into the gazette 14 days prior So we've given them by the 11th, but at least you have to date in your mom, right? So that's helpful, but yeah, and then just once it's written I don't mean like a separate thing just once it's written to put that in our packet, but it We should just make that Depending on the timing so in regards to the marijuana issue to be to be really clear On the fact that mr. Kravitz has put in this incredibly awkward position on a regular basis That's apparently what one of the things we pay him for is to interact with people who are coming up with ideas for different kinds of businesses And it's really difficult for him to give guidance That reflects what the community thinks with marijuana because it's still such a new topic And so we can obviously start with the planning and talk about the different conversations we've had but he's he's in an interesting position that that's All too easy for anyone from anywhere to criticize whether within or without a town hall so I appreciate that he it would be really helpful to him to have some written guidance and so I appreciate that and again He doesn't work for us only the town manager works for the select board And so I really appreciated that he put something together because we've been you know working around this issue What would look we kept saying we wanted the ability to do local licensing even though we didn't know what it was We just wanted to be able to have that option and He has put in a ton of work, you know working with other groups and the ccc has also Got an additional information associated with the other ccc, you know Associated with what local regulations look like elsewhere and since every state is different in their county level things and yada yada yada Nothing's ever simple and nothing's easily just like oh boom. We'll just take theirs. There's this good So he's done a ton of research But it's also trying to figure out how to answer questions for people associated with things and so I appreciated that he put this policy together He even let the internal working group look at it and You know and provide feedback associated with it and then he gave it to his employer the town manager and I do think it is even though the town manager has all the authority to actually sign host community agreements Which is why we have never discussed the components of community host community agreements until later after they were signed Except in a very broad sense many years ago Um I think it's probably is time for us to try and despite our summer schedule find a way to have this conversation because Applications are going to start coming in for purely recreational. We also need to have I think the actual Conversation that we've been kind of dancing around for a while as to whether or not We are willing to entertain any additional letters of Support or non opposition for medical Because he needs to be able to answer those questions effectively to people when they call him up You know, they're not coming and waiting for a select board to have a conversation three weeks from now They're asking him what's going to happen next week So it's um it puts him in a really difficult position And so as we dug into this further we realized that that concept about The values and the benefits is really tricky right because you know one person can interpret it one way Based on what they believe They've been hired to do but then if they're going to get second guessed that's really not to their advantage. So We don't have a great way right now of capturing A values discussion in a host community agreement and we have in fact asked many weeks ago For a model host community agreement for recreational from kp law that we don't have yet We've had a number of opinions from them, but we don't know that yet um And we don't have a perfectly obvious way of addressing the values question at the zoning board of appeals either because it's either Now it fits or it doesn't fit it meets these conditions or it doesn't meet these conditions That's not that bigger values question Then there's the question as to whether or not we should even have a values question because we don't have values questions Around whether or not a restaurant opens and we think wow, it's a crazy idea to open that kind of restaurant Good luck to you because you're paying the money. You're meeting the rules go for it Some people feel that marijuana is a little different because it's a new market And we do want to think about things and as miss krueger pointed out the ccc has said to us Well, you could do some sort of our preprocess. We didn't do that for medical And so we don't have the history of trying to do that and it's also really weird because it's not like a situation Where we can say here's this empty mill building People tell you tell us what you want to do with that empty mill buildings. We don't own these properties We're not so I don't even really understand how we would do an rfp in a situation like that beyond learning from other people That have something other than mill buildings To do that and so none of this is completely obvious as to how to fix the conversation But it seems like it's probably time for us as a group here Since we hear from the larger community so that we can feed to the town manager and he can talk to mr. Kravitz to Figure out what aspects of this we want to try and tease out further Because again under the town government act under the charter he can make tons of decisions as the town manager But if we want him to incorporate any of our ideas and our thinking about this and ways of approaching some of these things We're going to need to have a conversation at some point And I think that in in some ways is certainly is a topic that's you know, not admitting of delay as they say It's really not because it's you know, it's it's and and you know, it's it's kind of like the arguments We made a town meeting relative to the zoning and that if you don't have it in place It's left the building commissioner and make a certain determination and then you've essentially grandfathered in certain rules even if you change them later and so You don't it's hard to retroactively sort of apply the rules. And so I think we Will need to sort of take this up in some fashion. Yes So yeah, I think that's it's really important for that conversation because I think that Memo that I think mr. Kraus shared with you a couple weeks ago that you had a chance to talk about this today was um A way to start for us to frame. What are the issues? The town meeting action to create zoning Uh A there's there's a there's a tense pressure to be first to market and so there's a lot of economic Anxiety among developers or people who want to take get the license and be the first one out there because they're that's Really important in this in this industry The um KP law has recognized this they've been working on a generic host community agreement for all their communities They've put a ton time into it It's taken a lot more time than we had anticipated But this is going to be something that's going to go out to all of their member communities But it's going to be Significantly different than our the typical host community agreement that you that we see um And you know, there are real consequences to decisions that are going to be made So if the way that zoning passed by town meeting means that you get one License and say the center of town and then you're exiting out everybody else And how do you allocate that license and barring any other discussion? The building commissioner in essence could could issue a permit and that would be without any we need to have the They also need some things host community agreement and all these other things But we need to have an informed discussion about what are the values if we have one Thing, you know, do we auction it? Do we rfp it? Do we just say? This is going to generate the most economic activity for us You know, if you said you could have one restaurant Do you want shale bearer? Do you want mcdonald's and you get to choose? And what are the values one one could be better than the other who knows so And I think it is it's a complicated topic Which because you've spent an enormous amount of time talking about it, you know it better than prompt Most 99.9 percent of people in the state But We do need support and thinking about through these what these things are and what the values are of the community because There are There is we get I mean, I'm sure he told you but we get inquiries all the time for people who want to cultivate or to To open shops and some people don't know what they're doing. Some people are very sophisticated and he's he's What do and my question is do we want to embrace it? You know, we sort of said we know where we want to be With medical We said we want for That was great guidance, but do we want to embrace it or do we want to say You know, we've represented from other boards who are saying Don't say yes to these too many of them. We don't want to bring this into the town It's hard That was Kind of what was happening in our meeting because we were not they weren't wrong positions. We were staking out different position You know on a spectrum of of places and it's like we're just an internal working group Right, we don't get to decide this and even just the president I mean these are real these have real-time consequence. It's just the existence of this memo had a chilling effect on somebody Rightly or wrongly had a chilling effect on someone who's interested in one of the downtown properties I didn't real understand that was related to the cancellation of a of a community meeting Is it you know downtown property owner who? ran into one of us who's already you know upset so It is timely some people in the working group conversations Well, of course this should all wait until the council is seated. You can't make any more decisions about I just agree but until we have the conversation and are clear We each bring our own perspectives or the boards that we represent perspectives You know Why rush it now just slow it all down and goes slow this amount is enough or What you know, we had him really interesting but somewhat It wasn't contentious, but spirited discussion. Yeah, let's come in You know these discussions take a lot of energy like I like this or I think we heard each other's point of views But we were sort of starting to relitigate it. You know by the last half an hour We were saying the things we said at the beginning And and one of the things where it starts to get complicated Well, it's already complicated, but another area in which it starts to get it continues to be complicated Is associated with An additional letter of support or non-opposition for a particular property that's trying to make a transition at this point in time and and then there is also the difficulty of My Which I then try and match up on the one hand. Yes, we are trying to do this We are out in front of it. We are making it happen We are embracing it and at the same time I'm having some difficulty understanding how I translate the community's values associated with medical and recreational slash adult use Because any place that advertise that says they want medical right now doesn't that's the reality What they want is they want a leg up For adult use and recreational. Do we not have a problem with that? Well, okay Then we don't have a problem with that But I I feel like we need to have that conversation and we've we've put it off because we had everything going on with Town meeting and the charter row and everything else. It just was like impossible But I don't think we can put it off until the council because Applicants will start to come in and they will they They have to have a host community agreement before they can get very far with the state They can like fill out some sections of the application So when you read what the state's doing, they're like so many people have filled out four sections of the application But not five and so they will be coming to us. They do have to have that community meeting They do have to have the host community agreement There's just so many layers now and yet it's still early days that we're still kind of dealing with the old stuff As we're trying to deal with the new So we're in the we're in an awkward place on a number of different fronts And so we do need to be able to have staff be able to give Accurate advice to people who aren't quite willing to go public yet But are trying to do exploratory stuff so that we don't later say Aw shucks We wish they hadn't done that because if we're not giving anybody anything to work with They can't do it Mr. Steinberg, do you have a report? Oh Okay So I think that that's you know just to the mayor one question It's you know valuable for me as far as agenda setting and thinking about When and how much of that conversation We'll need to put into our agenda setting and and that sort of thing, but if there's not Other select board member reports. I'm not sure there's anything else on our agenda I wanted to ask that when we do have that we already said today at internal working group that you wouldn't put it on the agenda for the 11th So don't And we want because we want to be able to specifically Invite people we want to be able to invite people from the business community We want to be able to invite the entire board of health for example So that even you know, if we don't make any kind of decision And what of course that means though is we need more time on the agenda because if we're going to hear from other people It may also beg the question whether it should be a separate meeting for Just that conversation and feedback from people So might be good That time doesn't get eaten up Right Thank you for considering all those alternatives I don't know if we would take up the Other the piece of that is you know the herbology request and the medical Is part of that broader conversation or do we need to get back to that as another action item? My suggestion would be that we try and have the conversation Completely separate of that even though we know that exists just like we know there are people looking to develop downtown So I think that rather than trying to say we'll put herbology on the same agenda And see where we get an hour into it seems Unfair to them as well, but but knowing Their time concerns, etc. That causes me to think sooner rather than august, you know, could that be as soon as general Could no wait I don't think I explained that right at all then herbology is not going to come be in my opinion Is not going to come before us until after we have this entire discussion after I thought you were saying that that was time sensitive Well, it is in terms of june and to them, but versus september Yeah, that's what I was trying to say and I didn't want to try and put them on the same night No, not the same, but I thought you were saying before but Okay I do have just one announcement these Race amity day members town meeting approved Past this resolution. I believe unanimously in 2015. Mr. Slaughter I believe is going to present it at the event which is on sunday june 10th It's always the second sunday and as usual it's from 2 to 4 p.m. But this year it's at the unitarian church hall So it is indoors. You do not need to RSVP. Please show up from stories fellowship fun music and dance And the race amity day proclamation is available online because we did it way back in february But if there is not other things which I think we're we've exhausted our agenda I would take a motion to adjourn so moved second second favorably say hi Hi, and we're adjourned at 10 38 p.m