match with anything right now um it's just it today so i'm just i'm just putting this on first off happy 35th anniversary to the legend off the little triforce thing i don't even make the triforce in one's hand it was happy 35th anniversary two two the legend of zelda so i thought you know i've been spending uh not like a ton of time but you know a few minutes here and there responding to people on my recent video and i'm gonna i'm just gonna swap over to this view wait not that view uh this view i'm gonna swap over to uh this view over here uh because i want to respond uh i guess to some comments here instead of sitting here and click clacking away all the time i'm like you know if i'm going to take the time to respond to some of these people commenting on my most recent video uh i want to do it then in a way where it's a little bit more productive use of my time uh so we're gonna open up this video i'm going to order the comments by the way the comments on this video are mostly a crap show despite the like to dislike ratio let's just say the people that are really upset over the priciness godward sword hg are very upset and people think i'm shilling for nintendo by basically just explaining why nintendo charges what they do for it me oh oh oh hold on my kids are arguing my kids are arguing what's up no no watch something else besides fg tv kids and youtube okay there's one more swear word said the tv gets shut off yes i don't even know if fg tv actually does swear or not um my kids know all the swear words anyways uh so i wanted to respond to some of these comments uh and there was one comment in particular that like really got me fired up this morning because there's a lot of assumptions about me as a content creator now i can't speak to other content creators uh i really can't uh other content creators are their own beasts their own animals uh and they have their own concerns so i'm gonna jump to that comment first uh if i can even find it here i forget it's it's in a reply thread um and this is like lagging on my side too so this is just how it goes uh youtube does not like you know what i want to make this a bit easier on myself i'm actually gonna open up a different web browser uh one second here close that let's let's try let's see if uh fighter fox is a little better here for me what happens uh sometimes the chrome is because i have certain add-ons in chrome in the in the browser uh is it not gonna open oh i don't open open on my monitor because i have certain add-ons in chrome uh sometimes it doesn't run very well so we're just gonna uh uh the add-ons are there to help me with youtube but during a live stream you know i'm more worried about how fast things are loading um and all that jazz i don't even need to be logged in that doesn't matter to me all right yeah this is this is much smoother scrolling now um so let's find the comments that i wanted to respond to i see a couple that i hearted here obviously you know youtubers are gonna heart positive commentary on their videos because you know they like to highlight positivity i'll heart negative ones too sometimes too as long as they're not attacking me um is it this thread i'm trying to see there was a thread someone made a very long-winded response that i really want to reply to or reply to other people on this video as well uh is it in this 12 is it in this 12 one here um let's see here no no i responded there so you can see this i responded like half hour 40 minutes ago so it's below this one uh is it this one man this has been an interesting conversation on this by the way uh one thing i want to note is that you don't have to be okay with nintendo like charge you 60 bucks on games i personally don't think skyward sword he should be selling for 60 i just know why nintendo's doing it and in the end i know i'm part of the problem because i'm gonna end up buying it at 60 so you can call me a hypocrite i suppose that's a fair thing to say but at the same point i'm probably gonna get more than 60 dollars worth of entertainment out of it as well and i know that um but where is the sorry it takes me a little bit sometimes to find exactly who i want it here it is ridiculous ramer all right um so to get some context to what he's saying um you know he says the points are faulty and fanboyism is real so he's done with the points i made in the video it's like it's people like you that will never let nintendo change for the better all right so i responded to him and i said i wasn't trying to make a point on why consumers should be okay with it because you don't have to be i state in this very video multiple times that absolutely consumers not being okay with it is entirely fine there is no defense i'm not defending nintendo i'm not justifying it i'm just explaining why nintendo gets away with charging 60 for it the points presented for why they do it point one they sell games at that price so the game sells at that price so basically consumers are willing to spend it so nintendo is going to charge it point two the game sell at that price because nintendo creates an expectation of high value for their products be them old or new the value is put forth in how nintendo prices are released essentially nintendo always charges this so people expect them to charge it so people have become conditioned to be willing to spend it point three a majority people that purchase a game like scourge sort are brand new uh never played the original so it's basically a new game for them point four nintendo has consistently for 40 years priced things in a way that creates artificial evaluations and expectations on consumers for what you are supposed to pay for a nintendo game it doesn't matter if it's breath of the wild that came out four years ago or a port of mario kart 8 that came out on their last gen system nintendo is going to charge you 60 that keep doing this consistently conditioning consumers expectations and valuations of nintendo's own ip point five other companies can't get away with it because their ip has been devalued by the company maker with its current pricing structure point six other companies ip that charges less while doing more are ips that lack popularity point seven when the popularity of an ip exists other companies also charge 60 dollars none of this is trying to justify nintendo doing it none of it is trying to tell you that it's okay that nintendo does it it's explaining why nintendo does it why they can get away with it and why they are going to continue to do it by nintendo consistently doing this what they are doing is putting a high monetary value on their ip consumers don't need to agree with this valuation the problem is mario kart 8 deluxe sold 30 million units lynx awakening is sold over six million units super mario 3d all stars is sold over eight million units consumers consistently are showing they too value the games as highly as nintendo does well why because nintendo has conditioned consumers to value them that highly by refusing to drop the price of games and re-releasing games at premium pricing nintendo thus maintains the high monetary value of their ip by never undercutting and selling it short save special circumstances such as we you where the system was flopping super hard and nintendo wanted to squeeze as many game sales out of that consumer base as they could so call it fanboyism if you wish it's just a factual explanation for why nintendo gets away with it all right so i don't really care like at the end of the day spend the money don't spend the money on scourge or dhc it's your money do what you want with it um i don't really care but what's interesting is um looking at uh wait is this the one i wanted to do um hold on that's fun to do if you don't if you haven't replied let uh if you don't it means i'm correct it's funny when he's like it by the way i'm literally replying to him right here in this video but anyway so let's just start with his comment i'm not sure if this is the one i wanted to respond to but he says rebuttal to point one there is no way you a consumer to know how the game is selling as no official sales numbers have been released even if it was out of stock for 25 minutes then that's in one location during covid when things often go out of stock sooner so his rebuttal the point number one is that we don't know how well the game's selling all right fair all right i don't have exact sales data for scourge sort hd i do have sales data for super mario 3d all stars 8 million plus link's awakening 6 million plus mario carti deluxe 30 million plus i do have sales data for uh a ton of ports to switch that prove consistently that the game sells we have sales data for every other time nintendo has done this and it works so i have no reason to feel that scourge sort hd is going to sell worse in fact one reason you know we talk about the one location selling out uh yeah you're right it's one location that demand is even higher at these online retailers because of covid has nothing to do with things going out of stock the game isn't even printed at these retailers in the first place the stock allocation from nintendo is gone at least was they obviously got you know nintendo to allow them to sell the point i'm trying to bring up here is that every time a game is at the top best seller list on amazon it goes on to sell well your evidence you know to my first rebuttal that people are willing to spend 60 dollars in scourge sort hd and i bring up amazon and you try to refute amazon is that you haven't provided any actual evidence to the contrary every time a game becomes a top best seller on amazon the game also goes on to be a best seller overall it happens every time there is not been a single game that has hit the top of the best seller list on amazon in video games that has not also gone on to have incredible sales that is why we can use amazon sales charts as a barometer because they have accurately actually deferred or given us ideas about how well a game is going to sell the longer it stays up there the better it sells this is just the facts you didn't refute those facts you're just saying i don't have exact sales data you are correct what i have is history history is telling me it being in there means the game is selling incredibly well all right moving on rebuttal 2 and by the way i should check this with eshop i wonder if it's top the eshop charts i'd have to double check that anyways rebuttal 2 they put high expectations on their games yes but that was the case it would have been $60 on nintendo's best selling console of all time so he's talking about the fact that scower sword released for $50 on we for those who don't know brand new games on we were $50 that was the standard pricing of triple a games on we by nintendo they charged $50 the entire generation the rest of the industry standardized their prices at 60 bucks but they did so entering the hd era people forget that back during the 90s and early 2000s we did not have standard pricing for games some games would be 20 bucks 40 60 100 for some games on n64 there were zero standardized pricing back in those days once we got to the 360 xbox and we days is when we started to standardize pricing for games and at that point the hd twins decided to standardize at $60 nintendo standardized at 50 that was just a standard price of brand new games at that time for those platforms those are the decisions those platform those platformer those platform creators made at that time so when you talk about how you know it would have been $60 on their best selling console of all time but it wouldn't have because they weren't charging $60 for new games on switch or on on we so when you bring up this fact of the past of of what they did on we it's like yeah that is what they did on we but nintendo didn't start standardizing $60 pricing until we you the better argument is that they released to other princess hd and uh and uh the windbreaker hd at 60 at $50 on we you and the reason they did that is not being refuted by him basically the we you flopped so nintendo was squeezing sales out of a small consumer base they were even like dunking on tropical freeze came out at 40 bucks like they were really trying to squeeze sales out of a really tiny consumer base so some games came out significantly cheaper they dropped prices to nintendo select line super quickly by the way uh the system was only on the market for four years and yet we still had a nintendo select line on we you just let that sink in we're four years in to switch where's the nintendo select line nowhere to be found because the games keep selling because the system is successful so his point to rebuttal is just not paying attention to what games actually costed on we at that time if it was standardized $60 back then they would have charged $60 for skyward so don't think nintendo cut the price of skyward sword on we at launch that's not at all what happened that's just what games cost back then all right rebuttal three assuming the majority of people who who buy it haven't played it you need to understand it won't be a new game for them all right before i read anything else about this rebuttal i i gotta i gotta say something i gotta say something here if i haven't played a game let's say any game whether it's the original like age of empires or doom or whether it's you know i haven't played uh put it this way i haven't played like any of the playstation 4 exclusives right so let's say when i get a playstation 5 i decided to go get the original spider man game the marvel spider man game all right i haven't played it how is that not a new game for me to play just because it's not literally a new release like a new were released for me as a consumer if i haven't played something and then i buy it and play it that's a new game for me so like when you when you're looking at consumerism on rebuttal three and he says assuming the majority of people who buy it haven't played it you need to understand it won't be a new game for them it's a two-generational game the game's older but it's still new to me when my children go on nintendo switch online and play those nests and snests games they weren't even alive when those games came out they're completely new experiences for them so they're new games to them this is what i don't understand the point i was making is that there's gonna that basically scourge sword hd is going to outsell the original game on switch and outsell it to a point that a majority of people that buy a scourge sword hd are going to end up being people who never even played the original which means for them scourge sword hd is like a brand new game because to them it's a new experience they've never had before so when you try to do the rebuttal that i'm using for nintendo's logic by the way not justifying the price and i'm saying why nintendo does it you have to understand that he's just factually wrong assuming the majority of people haven't played it you need to understand it won't be a new game for them but it will be a new game for them because they've never played it when you experience something for the first time that's a new experience for you the experience could be something that happened you know it could be a product you know let's say a walkman a sony walkman and in using those little tapes cassette tapes that a lot of people haven't grown up with i did but i mean like a lot of kids they have no idea when they experience though for the first time that's a new experience for them when they experience records being played on a record player that's a new experience for them it doesn't matter how old the experience was when it came out it matters the person's individualized experience so when you talk about it won't be a new game for them but it actually is a new experience for them making it like a new game all right anyways people who bought 3d all-stars know these are old games no one is going to play sunshine and be like oh boy a new mario i'm paying full price for it which is the honest truth okay 3d all-stars is a game selling down nostalgia okay we all know this right it's taking three of the best games together as a quote unquote celebration of mario and putting it in one package it's a celebration it's meant to sell to people that grew up playing these games right that's the intent of that that you get you have to look at the intent of game sales 3d all-stars is a collection pack intended to sell to people who already played the games all right skyward sword hg is not intending to sell the people that already played the game that was very clear when they unveiled it agianomu specifically addressed breath of the wild players when talking about skyward sword hg the intent of skyward sword hg is to sell to the new and massive zelda audience that now exists because of breath of the wild that's the intent of sale it is intended for a new audience 3d all-stars is intended for the old audience very clearly the way they market it the way they advertise it the way nintendo talked about skyward sword hg clearly was targeting the new and improved possibly zelda audience depending on your thoughts on that so yes people bought 3d all-stars knowing they were old games because that was how it was marketed to them skyward sword hg is marketed to new zelda players as hey you probably haven't tried this out because barely anybody did we're gonna give it to you now that's the honest truth they're two completely different marketing strategies i don't agree with either one of them by the way but that is what they're doing all right rebuttal for and what you just said right here is the reason to keep doing it that is the point thank you you're not rebuting point four so to go back up my point four was nintendo has consistently for 40 years price things in a way okay so i'm explaining why nintendo does it and then he says rebuttal the point four and what you just said is the reason to keep doing it thank you so you agree with me you agree that these this is why nintendo does it all right so anyway so accepting this is like the norm let's say no i can get away with it stop doing that you're unknowingly defending them with this mindset rather you say it or not it's giving the vibe and you need to do better in avoiding that i don't need to do better in avoiding anything if you want to make assumptions on the things i say that's on you people make assumptions all right people make assumptions that's just what they do that's where people asking where are the giveaway codes please shut up this is a scam i think you can go ahead and ask all the regulars in the chat if my giveaways are a scam go for it i don't need to justify it to you do you think it's a scam stan nista you can just leave i have way too too many people in the chat that will easily prove to you state to you that it is not a scam i am under no obligation to give you guys jack shit am i going to give away any shot code at some time during the stream yeah i am but i don't have to give it to you right now i give it to you whenever i feel like it all right sorry i know this is a little harsh but jesus um all right uh so i don't have to be better at anything that i don't want to be better at and i just people make assumptions all right so rebuttal five um other companies can't can't get away with it because their ip's have been developed by the company maker with this current pricing structure all right so he goes you again have no proof of this it's not properly structured and you're saying things benefit you yet have zero sources to back it up ratchett and spiderman god of war are just a few series that have sold more than nintendo's ip's and even the ones who didn't are still noteworthy competitors like your first party nintendo's house were in for their money okay let's look this up again best selling okay play uh um uh sony you gotta say sony exclusive games of all time all right where is it here we go let's let's look at this chart and we're gonna do the same thing for nintendo okay let's let's let's just be fair here okay he's claiming okay he's making a claim he's making a claim that there's that are a few series that are sold more than nintendo's ip's so ratchett and clink spider-man and god of war all right so best selling sony games all right marvel spider-man right up there but number two twenty million right all right that's cool twenty million marvel spider-man let's look at the best selling attempt we gotta go down a bit because they have a bunch of other sales data in here best selling games all right well we sports 82 okay pokemon red green blue yellow 59 mario bros uh we got 48 here pokemon golden silver 42 mario kart 8 uh 39.63 million pokemon ruby sapphire 37 mario kart we 37 tetris 35 we sports resort 33 animal crossing new horizons 31 new super mario bros ds 30 new super mario bros we 30 and let's see i'm still waiting to see the games that he's talking about that are out selling nintendo's ip duck hunt at 28 we play at 28 super mario world at 26 pokemon diamond of 25 sony moon 25 and i'm still waiting for a game that that uh it's outsold for nintendo nintendo super mario bros 3 mario kart ds breath of the wild super mario 64 super mario bros all smash bros ultimate okay we fit we fit plus uh pokemon sword and shield super mario galaxy oh there we go brain age train your brain in a minute a day on the ds sold 19 million so it fits as a 20 so this game marvel spider-man would be the 28th best selling game in nintendo's history that's nothing to scoff at but that's not selling more than nintendo's games do it's not outselling a majority of nintendo's games i yes marvel spider-man sold a lot i'm not debating that i'm just saying that nintendo has sellers like that hell of a lot more often than than than than they do and why are we even talking about marvel spider man when we're talking about ports and remasters that's another thing so when i talk about the pricing structure it says it's not probably structured and you're saying things to benefit you you had a zero source to back it up here's what i meant when i when i made this rebuttal this this point other companies can't get away because their ip has been devalued by the company maker with this current price and structure did sony not sink the price of marvel spider-man within six months did it still cost 60 six months after release no it didn't marvel spider-man dropped the 40 bucks okay is that not devaluing the ip's price point breath of the wild is still 60 dollars today four years later we're almost at the four-year anniversary of breath of the wild and it's still cost 60 bucks nintendo did not lower the price you can argue they should but why do you feel like they should lower the price because other companies are doing it sony's doing it microsoft's doing it activision ubisoft and what happens when they do that is they create a consumer expectation that games should lower in price over time which creates a devaluing of what that game is worth so when marvel spider-man came out on playstation 4 there was no debate at launch it's worth 60 dollars but if a new gamer a new player buys it six months later it's only worth 40 dollars that is called a devaluing of the ip they aren't i'm not saying the ip's aren't worth a lot of money spider-man is incredibly valuable what i'm trying to say here is they created a consumer expectation of lower prices because of their pricing structure of games they release at 60 and then quickly reduce for at least 60 quickly reduce now on playstation 5 release at 70 and quickly reduce that is what the gaming industry has done to their ip's they have decided ip's are going to be devalued and de-priced to try to increase sales over time they are not doing this to be your friend they are doing this to try to make more money they have decided the pricing structure that best works for them is take advantage of everyone at launch by charging a premium price and then quickly reducing that price to get even more people who weren't willing to pay that price to then come in and buy the game they are doing nothing here other than trying to maximize their own profits okay they are doing a strategy that consumers obviously don't seem to have a problem with you can argue and i've seen this argument made that when a company puts a game out there at 60 bucks but then a month later it only costs 40 should the game have ever launched at 60 in the first place should it should it actually launch at 60 bucks if they had to quickly reduce it to keep sales going the short answer is probably not because the game probably wasn't worth 60 dollars to the consumer base that's what i'm talking about when i say other companies can't get away with it because they have conditioned their consumers to expect price drops nintendo doesn't nintendo maintains their prices for years and years and years when you if you don't buy breath of the wild that launch on switch you still know a year or two later it's still going to be 60 bucks you waiting to buy the game isn't going to make the game cheaper and you know that when you buy a nintendo system so you're still paying 60 bucks for mario kart 8 today because nintendo has conditioned consumers to not expect the prices to drop on games they don't care if the game came out in 2017 they don't care if the game comes out in 2021 they're going to charge you the same why because nintendo holds their properties at high value and they have conditioned their consumers to not expect price drops okay the rest of the industry which there's nothing wrong with the rest of the industry is doing have conditioned customers to expect price drops that is why they can't get away with charging 60 for a port or remaster they have conditioned consumers to expect lower prices now again people state that this is some big giant consumer friendly thing really these companies are being just as greedy as nintendo they are just taking a different pricing strategy to achieve profits nintendo's strategy is hey look whether you bought breath of the wild in 2017 or you buy breath of the wild today in 2021 it's still the same game and still just as good so it's worth 60 bucks that's nintendo's argument other companies go hey look um we can't seemingly get our games to keep selling so let's reduce the price so it sells more so they figure making some money is better than making no money that's their strategy all these companies are doing when they sync prices of games are just trying to make more money because they're no longer making money every company in the world wishes they could go back in time and recondition their consumers to expect games to not drop in price like nintendo has which would then create an evergreen effect and people will consider buying the games at all times because no one's waiting for price drops right now what happened is there are consumers out there that legitimately will not buy a brand new game at launch on playstation on xbox or any other you know given platform pc because they know the game is going to drop in price because they have conditioned the consumers to expect the price drop so they will hold out consumers for nintendo don't hold out because they know the pricing isn't going to change no matter how long it's been you could say it's greedy and that's fine and i have news for you all of these companies are equally greedy they're just using different strategies to get money out of you they they're legitimate like people like man look at the steam sales look at the steam sales do you know how much profits all these people make because of the steam sales and how many games you end up in your steam library that you never play why do you think they do these insane steam sales they're massively profitable all these companies are doing are different strategies to be greedy motherfuckers trying to take every dime you got and the bottom line is this is an entertainment industry we control what we spend on our entertainment steam doesn't make us partake in a steam sale we choose to right steam has gone with like the coals route everything's on sale really they're still making massive profits they're just trying to gain a market advantage to get more consumers okay then you have nintendo saying you know what we're going to keep our games at a certain price and always keep them at that price okay that sucks makes their games more expensive maybe you don't buy as many of them maybe you do buy more of them i have no idea that's up to you okay other companies we release call of duty at 60 but we're going to charge 40 in a month bottom line is all these companies are trying to do is make as much money as possible literally nothing these companies do is aimed at anything but profitability so you can hate one and prefer the other the end goal is still the same these are billion dollar companies trying to make billions and millions think about it nintendo has what eight nine billion in the bank that's nothing activision ea and ubisoft all make more money than nintendo does using completely different pricing structures of course how do they decide to do that microtransactions sure they'll reduce the price in the game they're not reducing the price of microtransactions it's a give and take it's a give and take you buy nintendo games and for the most part don't have to deal with microtransactions but you're going to spend 60 bucks it's a give and take all these companies are doing are trying to maximize profits so they're all greedy the point i was making with point five is that other companies can't charge 60 bucks the way nintendo does because they have conditioned their consumers to expect price drops so they get much bigger backlash if they would say release a port of i don't know marvel spider-man if they released just a straight-up port for 60 bucks just put it in 4k right which by the way it already exists and there already was controversy that you had to buy a 70 dollar or 100 dollar version of a game to get it whatever anyways but let's say they released marvel spider-man on its own on PlayStation 5 the PlayStation 4 and they just put it in 4k and that's all they did and they charge 60 bucks do you understand the massive backlash sony would get because they have created the expectation that oh they should only charge 30 for that that is the expectation sony has created expectations matter nintendo owners consumers expect games to be 60 everyone else expects their games to be reduced in value which they feel makes things better for them and maybe it does make things better for their pocketbook but really it's just increasing sales so the company makes more money marvel spider-man would not have sold 20 million copies if they kept it at 60 bucks it it just actually wouldn't have maybe it crosses 10 but it would not have sold 20 million copies it just wouldn't have if they kept it at 60 because they have created the expectation of lowering the price that's all I meant okay so anyways 0.6 I said other companies IP that charges less while doing more our IPs that like popularity this is what what I meant by that was um when people bring up like the ratchet and clink crash insane trilogy these IPs just simply aren't as valuable or as popular as um as someone nintendo's offering um so one simple example is the final fantasy seven remake okay guys final fantasy seven remake is upcharging you that is a what okay so my point was that the IPs are less valuable so so they don't I also made a prior point that the IPs that are valuable they charge 60 bucks for final fantasy seven remake isn't even the entire game it's part one of final fantasy seven now it's an amazing remake it has an incredible amount of work done and for the most part people are going to feel what is there in that package is worth 60 but it doesn't change the fact it's not the entirety of final fantasy seven if you buy the original final fantasy seven game you are technically getting the complete final fantasy seven experience when you buy the final fantasy seven remake you are spending 60 dollars for part of final fantasy seven you are going to spend 60 dollars again for the next part this is essentially making final fantasy seven remake overall cost 120 dollars 120 that's more expensive than the original game by a lot I'm just throwing it out there that like it I'm not saying that it's not worth the money to you I'm pointing out that you're defending something that's worse than what nintendo is doing worse than what nintendo imagine that link's awakening completely remade by nintendo granted I know not on the level of final fantasy seven remake but it was completely remade nintendo decided we're going to give you half the game for 60 give it the other half later for another 60 nintendo would get destroyed but we're defending it because people like final fantasy seven it's a worse thing in my opinion what final fantasy seven remake is doing versus what nintendo does because they're charging you more for the same game just because they remade it anyways that's besides the point that's also a third party game all right third party games do sell well I wasn't even talking I was talking about exclusives third party games always tend to sell a little bit better sometimes in some nintendo games because they're on multiple platforms have a larger consumer base all that jazz madden sells like 20 million plus every single year because it's madden and it's on multiple platforms and nfl is really popular right anyways um so uh nintendo's best-selling game of the year while doing more and being priced at less than 70 current sony games are being priced at final fantasy seven is just one example many others do as well sonic the hedgehog is a good example despite not having a game number three full years a serious store remains relevant enough to make sega consistent money to keep it alive it does more price for less and succeeds sonic mini is another good example so he's he's just bringing up ip's that again just kind of prove my point okay yes sonic sells for less than mario sells in terms of pricing right mario $60 sonic at 40 sonic at 30 sonic at 20 you guys tell me which franchise is more popular sonic or mario well let's just look it up instead of just guessing best-selling sonic game all right the best-selling sonic game of all time was the original sonic the hedgehog all right that's not that's nothing to scoff at 22.22 million sales and then additional nine million on the master system is back in 1991 but hey that's like nothing to scoff at so let's look at other sonic games after the fact let me make sure we're getting this uh yeah sales like 1.5 million for the sonic mega collection 2.3 okay we got uh seven for sonic the hedgehog two seven million uh two million for sonic cd eight million for sonic three knuckles four and a half for sonic adventure okay and they traditionally are releasing sonic games are cheaper than mario games let's look at mario game sales um best-selling mario games all right we're going to use the same website so we're using the same um set of information so remember 22 million the best oh shit super mario bros 48 million uh super mario bros two 15.68 million super mario bros three 23 million super mario land 18 million super mario world 26 million super mario land two and three 16 million super mario all-stars 12 million super mario two yoshi's island seven super mario 64 23 super mario sunshine six super mario bro we we tuba 74 20 12 did you not see the point sonic games are not as valuable as mario period they're not in as high demand as mario games are sonic games are not going to sell to you at 60 bucks a pop because sonic games aren't worth 60 bucks a pop because the consumers don't exist that value it at that price the consumers exist that value mario i mean even 3d all-stars 8 million 3d all-stars a simple port of three games is what would be what the third best-selling sonic game of all time yeah the third best-selling sonic game of all time and it's actually one of the lower selling mario games you now see you see what i'm getting at here like the sonic isn't worth as much as mario if sonic the ip and mario the ip were sold on the open market which one do you think is getting the bigger offers which one is gonna is probably worth 10 to 20 billion dollars as an ip i'll give you a hint and ain't sonic which mascot is literally should pop it off at the announcement of olympic games hint it's not sonic which one of these ip's has literal theme parks built around it it's not sonic sure sonic has a movie sure sonic had a tv show mario had a tv show mario had a movie mario is getting another movie i'm not saying that this has nothing to do with whether or not sonic is a good franchise has nothing to do with how good sonic games are it's just strictly about the demand more people play mario games than sonic games hence the demand for mario games is much higher with demand being higher nintendo can charge more for them demand for sonic games are not super high so because the man for sonic games are not super high it doesn't make sense for them to charge more money for a sonic game or to charge the same amount of money for a sonic game as they do a mario game or a sonic port as they do a mario port because the demand for those games are not as high so if they increase the price of sonic games when demand isn't that high that's going to massively decrease sales when you increase the price or you just keep the same they don't really increase they just keep the same price for mario games when mario games are in high demand they just continue to sell nintendo isn't overcharging they're not undercharging they're just giving you the same price sonic is just not as high a demand for an ip that's my entire point these ip's we were talking about compared to what nintendo's doing are just not as highly valued the market has determined that sonic is just not as good as mario in terms of consumer desire to play the nothing new is subject to the opinions on which games you think are better it's just facts i'm just spitting the facts sales data is out there it's proven already mario is more popular than sonic period popularity leads to higher price points period that's just how it goes all right rebuttal seven this one just isn't right and you have nothing to back it up so for the sake of argument let's just pretend you didn't say this it's humiliating you point seven point seven when the popularity ip exists other companies also charge 60 bucks last of us remastered 60 bucks i think that might be a bad example uh let's take a launch price actually i think no last those remastered i remember um it was it was originally 60 bucks and then they dropped it to 50 that's what it was so yeah 60 dollars and then they dropped it to 50 so they were going to charge you 60 and they initially were and then they dropped they they chopped up 10 bucks probably due to consumer backlash um let me see uh uh what was the one i was thinking of when i said this oh final five six seven this is the one i was thinking of highly valued sold well like the literal game he brings up that's what they're doing because it's popular if final five six seven wasn't popular they wouldn't be able to charge 60 bucks and split it up in the two different games anyways um then he says thank you for replying to your commenters and i hope you continue to in the future please refrain from releasing videos with as many flaws as this one to increase quality for your viewers such as myself and others that choose a comment thank you and have a blessed time and he says i see you haven't replied yet by the way five hours ago for me would have been like three o'clock in the morning i got asleep so because i didn't respond at 3am you know i i supposedly agree with him at least this person brought it up he's like he can't respond to everything he has to take breaks he's probably sleeping and his notifications are likely swamped i do get a lot of notifications i actually have my phone muted most of the time because of the sheer amount of notifications i get it's crazy uh but i still go through some of them so notifications over point your fact defend those that have zero facts basically like i'm not i'm not trying to tell you that you should spend 60 bucks on scowered sword hg thank you thark thanks thark let's uh i didn't say what i was going to do shots of so let's have a shot of bang let's have a shot of bang i'm drinking up bang starblast this morning so i'm almost entirely off soda i quit and then i started having a little bit but um this is like my soda replacement it's actually really not that bad for you anyways uh so thank you so much for the five dollars thark so that's that's kind of my thing here is i'm not trying to tell you scowered sword hg's worth 60 to you i'm not even trying to say it's worth 60 to me is it probably worth 60 to me yeah i'm gonna spend the money so clearly it is but my reason for spending the monies might be different than other people such as they have me hook line and sinker with zelda they could sell this at 100 bucks and i'd probably still buy it because i just love zelda games that much and i want to play scowered sword hg at 60 fps without using emulation so to me the 60 fps alone is worth it some people will argue the button mapping you know and the stick mapping is worth it to them so they can play it non-motion control style without emulation but whatever justifications that people want to use some people know that it just feels like a new game to them whatever the those justifications are fine i'm just explaining why nintendo does what they do and why they get away with it other companies condition you to expect price drops and nintendo doesn't what what do you want what do you want me to do about it it's a factual thing that happens that's the facts of the situation companies quickly reduce price of games companies are are releasing ports and remasters at cheaper prices on games that just aren't that popular not as popular as nintendo's own ip so i don't what do you want to do but that's not actually the reply i wanted maybe it's maybe it's this one there was someone that that really really got at me um because that wasn't the one that that was actually not this one uh let me see here because this is the one i owned on twitter i i i tweeted out my response um when he said a google a google search doesn't support what i'm doing and then i literally just dropped dropped facts dropped all these facts so that's just one guy though i don't want to spend all my time with this ramer unless he's the one who made the other comment which i don't think he did because the other person who made a comment really insulted me so i'm going to go through all these replies um and i'm going to find the one where the guy was was really going at me going at me hard um not just cliff just clipped him he i know him he's a he's a fellow youtuber he he wanted to go after me like that um was somebody it was a really long response oh maybe it was him no no random randy here we go random randy so let's get some context to this conversation so you quite literally and i so this is the person i responded you quite literally and i don't say this let me have not made one good point why the consumer should be okay i wasn't telling you i was not telling you randy random randy that the consumer should be okay with the 60 dollar price point i was telling you why nintendo does it never said you should be okay with it those words never left my mind i never said in my video you should be okay with this i said this is why nintendo does it there's a fundamental difference between saying you should be okay and accept this versus this is why it happens there's fact-based statements versus subjective personal opinions okay so let's dive a little more into this and thank you splat force for uh following over on twitch thank you so much for that um so uh i respond and i say the point is flown entirely over your head and then this is the same response i gave to the other person okay so we already read that response uh so then super leaf says that doesn't sound any better you pretty much started to say because nintendo and then i say no sigh why do people think i'm trying to justify what nintendo is doing i'm not i'm just factually explaining why they do it why nintendo does it doesn't mean you have to agree with them doing it and it doesn't mean what they are doing is justifiable to the consumer it just means nintendo has very logical reasons for what they are doing and why they are doing it and they consistently get proven correct for doing so they have artificially increased evaluation of their games and expected pricing structure by for 40 years not budging on how they value their properties again same special circumstances like we you or they were struggling to make money and they wanted to squeeze as many sales as they could out of a tiny consumer base hence why some games were cheaper on we you they literally and and they went to the nintendo selects line super fast on we you they were trying to squeeze as many sales out of 13 million people as they could because they weren't not doing well financially all right aka they get away with it because they have conditioned consumers to it is it right of them to do that that's more of a personal question there are going to be millions of uh there are going to be millions of happy gamers that buy scobber sort hd and feel it as well worth their money who are we to tell them that they are wrong for feeling that way at the end of the day true valuation of any product is subjective one could turn around and argue scobber sort is a masterpiece and worth hundreds of dollars another could talk about other reasons the game isn't even worth ten dollars neither are factually wrong value is placed on the individual is scobber sort hd worth sixty dollars to you no all right don't buy it what is it going to be worth that price to enough people for nintendo to keep pricing games this way absolutely and a majority of the industry has even talked about this time to time how they wish they could do it nintendo is doing but they can't because they conditioned their consumers to expect price drops and low entry points nintendo has done the opposite for better or worse obviously better for nintendo again just fact-based statements not talking about subjective opinions and whether you should be okay with it and yes buddy what what do you want all right you can have wait where's aiden okay aiden come here bud i know that i'm gonna make sure you guys don't fight over it they want to play switch hey ollie's gonna play this for a half hour and then you can play it okay okay so a half hour 30 minutes it i'm looking at my time so at 9 30 we'll switch over and then aiding is to play yeah and super and super money 3d world yeah that's good yeah well good then you'll finally catch up to dad he hasn't played balzer spirit mode yet though um all right so uh that's what i said all right so just put some context behind this uh super leaf uh 64 said that doesn't fix the problem though and i respond to proceed problem is nintendo is charging too much for something you personally feel isn't worth the asking price the solution for you then is to not buy it the question really is do you feel like you are missing out because you are choosing not to buy it at that price i asked because you're not buying it especially the same as them never bringing the game over at all you wouldn't complain if they didn't make scourge or an hd at all would you the perceived problem is then that it's not worth 60 dollars to you maybe it's only worth 10 dollars all nintendo cares about is what people are willing to spend millions will spend 60 as a business they would be idiots to not sell it at that at a price when consumers are proving they will spend i mean shouldn't breath of the wild be 20 max right now on switch to but it's not and it keeps selling i'm a good father thanks guys i try and they haven't played any video games yet today so um all right uh so then he goes to why are we fighting i'm not really fighting i'm just explaining and then he goes into some other stuff let's get to random randy this guy this guy obviously i'm dropping some e-shop codes i'm gonna i'll relax i give him away when i'm ready i know some people show up just for the giveaways sad but that is what it is all right so random randy says guess we're doing this rebuttal the point once he's rebooting my points again if the game sell at that price then why do you hammer down the point that it's the worst selling 3d zelda ever it obviously didn't sell at that price it didn't even sell at 10 bucks cheaper than that this was addressed in my video but skyward sword sold 3.5 million copies okay it's the worst selling 3d zelda of all time that's better than a majority of games that release even at the worst selling 3d zelda of all time it's still sold better than a majority of other games that exist now setting that aside why did skyward sword sell poorly it wasn't because of the price they could have sold it at 20 bucks it really went to sold more skyward sword sold worse because they announced skyward sword released in 2011 right we you was announced in 2011 e3 2011 we you was announced nintendo's next gen system was announced before skyward sword ever released people stopped buying games on we the moment we you was announced so if you think about this logically what occurred is nintendo couldn't sell skyward sword anymore couldn't make it massively successful because it came out after nintendo was already talking about next gen in other words skyward sword should have been delayed and released as a we you exclusive is basically what i'm saying then it would have sold out maybe a little bit better problem is we you flopped as skyward sword was just in a really bad point in nintendo's time it was when we was no longer relevant we you was coming and then we you flopped skyward sword released at like one of the worst release timings for games in zelda history we got ten dollars in from jeff thank you so much jeff he says nintendo could shit on a plate and call it zeno blade 3 and i'm buying it nintendo simply makes games people are willing to buy for high prices it's not hard to understand don't take a shot i'm not doing a shot of booze i got my kids no shot of booze this is bang this is just literally i didn't say i was taking a shot of booze not today this is just um a little energy drink it's like soda water with caffeine with some flavoring no calories no really bad stuff in it um i think you need to watch cleave gaming or keys gaming video mario galaxy vs skyward sword he makes some very good points i'm sure he does and mario galaxy arguably looks better than hd i mario galaxy isn't being sold for 60 bucks i know i'm going to put the caveat yet yet because skyward sword i'm sorry mario because remember super mario 3d all stars they're done selling that game as of march 31st we have no idea what they're going to do with those games individually after they could literally release mario galaxy this i'm what this is nintendo so don't be surprised if mario galaxy in 2022 gets re-released on its own for 60 bucks they won't be surprised this is nintendo they have conditioned us to expect them to do this 3d all stars was the unexpected but it's also limited run i'm just saying just wait until they do the same thing for galaxy that's not right off that nintendo might not do that with galaxy yet no my hope is if they do it they include galaxy 2 but i i don't think that's you'll see that's all i'll say is you'll see especially if they feel like they need a mario game um all right uh let's get back into his stuff so robot of the point to nintendo creates an expectation of high value for their products because i'm older new is what what i said if that's the case and they created the expectation that this game was worth 50 bucks at launch and at launch is when exclusive was the highest value again this is just repeating something i've already responded to um new we games were 50 bucks this was just the standardized pricing at the time the expectation for 50 existed at that time because that's what new we games sold for the expectation for 60 exist today because that's what new games sell for today and the expectation on playstation 5 is now that new games sell for 70 so it's it's a really weird point that when people bring up the 50 bucks when that was just what new games cost it at the time on we all right robot of the point three not having played a game doesn't justify it being full priced a person that's never played pong it wouldn't suddenly be worth 60 bucks sure um sure i bet a sonic adventure released on switch for 60 bucks with no added content you'd be singing a different tune i never said scourge already she was worth 60 bucks furthermore not having played a game doesn't magically make its graphics mechanics instead of hold up to a modern game so it wouldn't be just as new when you play a gamecube game you know you're playing a gamecube game or at least a game that's much older but if you've never played that game before it's still a new game to you and in addition to what he's saying here pong is not as valuable as zelda it's an important game in video game history but it's not a valuable game not anymore the value of pong has been gone for a long time uh the value of sonic adventures was never there in the first place it bombed sonic adventures bombed they would never re-release it at 60 bucks because it couldn't sell even when it was more relevant i don't like again i don't understand some of these arguments it's like they're not even paying attention i'm not saying that a game being new to someone is a justification for us to feel it's worth it what i'm saying is nintendo uses that as a justification nintendo uses that justification i'm not saying that you need to agree with that justification about all the point four this one's just false nintendo has released games with low 60 day one multiple times in the past it's not even a rare occurrence and you don't even have to go looking to find examples even their games go on sale more and more often the conditioning is you conditioned yourself to believe that breath of the wild still costs $60 today maricardate deluxe still costs $60 today animal crossing we're approaching a year out is still $60 today splatoon 2 with splatoon 3 announced is still cost $60 today we even know the sequels coming in 2022 they're still charging you 60 bucks retailers will reduce the price nintendo isn't the one reducing the price on these games they will occasionally occasionally have a sale thank you so much jeff for another $9.99 thank you so much um i also want zeneblade 3 dude i hear you on that and i bet you we're gonna get that at some point cheers so occasionally nintendo will have a digital sale it's all temporary they they shoot the price back up other retailers might charge you 45 walmart charges you 50 nintendo has nothing to do with any of that nintendo is still msrp in for the same amount now they've done things like release games at cheaper prices they have released don't get gone tropical freeze on we you at 40 bucks again we you they were trying to get as many sales as they could we you pricing is not the same oh well they were doing $50 on we because that was the standard pricing of new games on we was $50 that was a standardized pricing that pricing has gone up 10 bucks so you're right they haven't always released game they released games back on n64 at over a hundred dollars back when there was no standardized pricing nintendo releases games at whatever the standardized pricing is at the time or they will chop the price of games down when they believe it is something that cannot sell at that price so when you see a curbie game come out and only cost 20 bucks why because they don't think curbie can sell at 60 if they think a game can sell at 60 they're gonna charge you 60 period so yeah they will release captain toad at 40 bucks because they don't believe anyone's gonna buy it at 60 it's not because of how much money they spent on it it's about ip popularity toad is not an established individual character game ip that they could sell like say yoshi is right so charge you 60 for yoshi do they not why because it's an established character individual ip at this point mario originally came you know we got was a rename of jump man from donkey con i the point i'm making here is when you talk about this kind of stuff and talk about the pricing nintendo sells things where they think they can get away with the price every company is just trying to maximize money so yes they factually have a few games that they do sell at cheaper than that $60 price point those are the exceptions that's not the rule what's been the complaint on nintendo games pretty much since i was an adult and paid attention nintendo never lowers the price of their games that's been a complaint that's been going on dating back to the wee days nintendo doesn't lower the price of their games just because games were only $50 at the top end then doesn't change what i'm saying people keep looking back at wee era because that's their childhood and that games were $10 cheaper and forget that that was just what games cost at the time $60 was basically unheard of on wee anyways all right our world point for other companies don't get away with it that's kind of the whole problem with giving nintendo these passes they get crapped on and rightfully so sell poorly or they make a worthy product uh nintendo can be nintendo and get excuse your final fantasy seven point is extremely invalid given that the remake was made from the ground up with cutting edge visuals gameplay reimagine there were tons of added content story changes and they gave a more fleshed out world experience in almost if every now single way you are just literally blind fanboy defending the fact that they split up final fantasy seven in a remake okay they split up final fantasy seven in a remake and are charging you double the original price if not more i can't remember what final fantasy seven actually launched at back in the 90s the point i'm making there is you are just defending it because you are okay with them charging you more for the same game because you think they did enough in the remake to justify spending over a hundred dollars to get the complete final fantasy seven remake experience you are okay with what they are doing because you feel like the work they put into it is justified never mind that square is totally taking advantage of you like every company is doing because they're trying to maximize profits knowing they can get away with that pricing structure releasing the game in multiple parts charging $60 per part they are doing this not because of the effort they put into it oh no no no they're doing it because they know they can get away with it there you're going to end up spending 120 to 180 dollars on final fantasy seven remake to get the complete game anywhere from 120 to 180 dollars to get the complete final fantasy seven game that was sold originally for 40 50 60 bucks back in the day now is it the exact same game no it's remade it's a remake remakes are generally not the exact same there's usually more content usually more fleshed out different gameplay styles all of it it's a remake okay almost a reboot if you want to call it a reboot of final fantasy seven but they're still going to be charging you a shitload more for the complete experience than they did originally you're just justifying it because you're okay with them doing that i think what's happening with final fantasy seven remake is a crying chain i i think it's bullshit it doesn't mean that it's not worth it to you you know why it's worth it to you the value of what a game is worth is based on the individual to you and millions of others what they are doing with final fantasy seven remake is worth your money i can give you an example breath of the wild was amazing love it if nintendo comes out and tells me to get breath of the wild two we're gonna charge 150 dollars for brand new copies of breath of the wild two right at launch well you know what i loved breath of the wild so much i'd spend 150 bucks on the sequel i'd spend 150 bucks to play it right now but why would i do that because even at an increased price of 150 dollars a breath of the wild sequel would probably be worth my money the sheer amount of entertainment and hundreds maybe thousands of hours of gameplay i'm going to get out of it is well worth me spending 150 dollars that's basically what you're trying to say with final fantasy seven remake despite it being more expensive despite them fleecing consumers for even more and more money they are doing it because they know consumers highly value that ip to the point that they probably in hindsight would have paid more for final fantasy seven back in the day if they had to the value of that ip has increased over time leading to them being able to charge you more there are more zelda fans today than ever in the history of zelda zelda is more valuable today as an ip than it's ever been ever because of breath of the wild so any zelda game that comes out on switch is going to have a higher value to nintendo than at any point in the company's history because there is a larger consumer base to sell that game to than there has ever been before link's awakening it wasn't a 60 dollar game when it first came out not even the dx version but they redo the visuals visuals they kind of remake it a little bit pretty it up release it on switch they're charging you you know 20 more than it launched originally and why did they get away with it because hey guess what the zelda fanbase is bigger there's a bigger demand for zelda games today than there was back then even when twilight princess was selling eight million that's nothing compared to the demand for zelda today the zelda's ip value has just gone up um hi guys i know a lot of people talking in the chat hope you're enjoying the stream um all right let me see uh so they talk about what what all the stuff that he likes and will find out he's seven other companies having devalued products they drop them in price after a period so a second wave of gamers who can't afford we just address this before look what he's saying look what he's saying other companies didn't devalue their products they just dropped them in price after a period so a second wave of gamers who can't afford full price games will actually buy look what look what what happens when you're conditioned to certain expectations so he truly believes that the reason the price of a game drops is to be nice to consumers who can't afford to buy it he legitimately thinks when call of duty when spider-man when last of us when halo when all these games drop in price quickly they're doing it so more people can afford the game do you not see how what these companies are doing are conditioning you to expect cheaper price he just said they're not conditioning you and then he talks about how they've conditioned you to expect it but why he he feels it's to be pro consumer they're being pro consumer they're trying to make games cheaper for the everyday man the truth is the game stops selling at 60 if they didn't reduce the price no one would keep buying it the truth is the game was probably overpriced when it came out the truth is the companies aren't reducing the price to make it more affordable for gamers they're reducing the price to increase their bottom line they want as much money as possible so they sell games at a premium 60 now $70 they sell at these prices at launch taking advantage of millions of consumers so they can quickly drop the price and then take advantage of the second tier of consumers then drop the price again and take advantage of the third tier of consumers they are doing everything they can to maximize the most amount of money they can make on these games nintendo doesn't have to do this because people keep buying breath of the wild still sells in the top 20 every single month four years later same for mario kart mario odyssey fluctuates in and out why would nintendo lower the price oh because it's pro consumer that's how you feel you're not realizing why they're doing they're not doing it to be pro consumer they're doing it because they're not selling enough copies at 60 bucks has nothing to do with you as a consumer they don't care that you can't afford the game that doesn't matter to them what they care is we sold as many copies as we can at a high price sales tanked after two weeks and now we need to do something to get sales back so we lower the price so they can get that second wave of consumers that never really matches the first wave of consumers and significantly less than the first wave of consumers and then when that doesn't work they drop the price again and then eventually they hit an equal little room where they just say we're not going to sell the game for cheaper than 20 bucks or whatever so sweet life idea brammer brings up consumers prefer lower prices obviously consumers prefer we prefer things to be free if we can get it that way i could care less of the price to reduce the maximum is probably yes as a consumer you absolutely should not care why they drop the prices you shouldn't you should not care as a consumer all that you should care about is what your money is worth to you what your entertainment value is worth to you that's all you should care about you shouldn't care why companies are reducing prices in games absolutely take advantage of them doing it and get games for cheaper that's perfectly fine i'm not saying companies are bad for doing this i'm saying that they're also not saints for doing it either they're not doing this out of the kindness of their heart is what i'm trying to say people act like nintendo's being greedy when these other companies are actually being just as greedy they're just using a different strategy to do it all the companies are being greedy all of them nintendo's no worse than the rest they're just doing it differently now consumers are obviously going to prefer the strategy where things become cheaper that's obviously a strategy that consumers are going to prefer over just always charging 60 i'm not disagreeing with you i would prefer breath of the wild was only $20 today but we know nintendo's not going to drop the price and then perceived value comes into the mix perceived value think about it another way if you bought a copy at launch the resale value of that copy isn't going anywhere for a long time when you buy a copy of marvel's spider-man on playstation 4 back at launch 60 bucks game cost 40 bucks less than six months later the value of that copy you bought at launch massively got reduced the resale value only existed for like a week so it also maintains values of games for consumers there's also quote-unquote pro consumer aspects to keeping the price of 60 bucks it keeps the value of the game high and because of that it keeps the resale value of the game high and because the resale value on the game is high the library you own on switch ends up being more valuable and thus you could trade more games in for higher value to get new games it makes game trading better for consumers what nintendo does game trading is better for consumers because of what nintendo does there is a positive side for consumers as well it does that mean you have to think the game shouldn't get reduced that we shouldn't get them cheaper i don't know it's all perceived value everything about what these companies do is about perceived value all right rebuttal point six because this gets really bad it's supposed to get personal for a moment what's up you're done okay all right thank you okay um this is just wrong again you can't just throw everyone who charges less and does more under one huge generalization umbrella this one seems particularly strange just look around first party third party games alike in some case even nintendo nintendo selects and more nintendo selects happen at a time when the games are no longer selling i don't know what what else you want me to say yes companies reduce prices when games stop selling congratulations but nintendo games keep selling for a hell of a lot longer than other companies do why is that conditioning all right we're not rebuttal point seven this was another false one it's simply false literally it's simply just not true most new games in general 60 bucks but unfortunately what you said even taking account games beside your specification to help just isn't true we're talking about ports and remasters most ports and remasters on other systems are not 60 bucks that's just be honest here most ports and remasters are not 60 bucks on other systems they're just not that's what we're talking about we're talking about ports and remasters that's what my whole video is about is ports and remasters we're not talking about brand new games anyways here we go as for the last paragraph why are credit deluxe got a resolution boost so does every game brought to switch every game brought to switch got a resolution boost yeah you can play now ollie did you eat a popcorn bud oh okay a popcorn sandwich kids so mark our deluxe got a resolution boost so did scourge sword improved performance so did scourge sword just so you guys know scourge sword is going literally doubling the frame rate portability so did scourge sword new characters sure i mean it really wasn't new but they included all the dlc basically uh and a new mode they really didn't give you a new mode so let's let's let's talk about mario credit deluxe for a moment what nintendo did is they packaged all the dlc in fine okay they did improve performance they did improve resolution which they do on every game they port to switch let's talk about that new mode so nintendo gave us a sweet multiplayer mode right they gave us basically a classic mario kart multiplayer a mode that most of us don't even play but they gave it to us what he fails to mention is they cut the old multiplayer mode to give you the new mode so they cut content from the game and replaced it with something different so now it's worth 60 bucks i'm sorry like it's worth 60 bucks because mario kart's popular it's not worth 60 bucks because of anything special they did with the game they didn't do anything special with mario cart eight deluxe to make it worth 60 dollars they're selling it at 60 bucks because nobody owned a we use so it's like a mario cart eight deluxe proves that point the second point i made that it feels new it feels new for switch owners because they didn't own a we you mario cart eight deluxe as far as they are concerned is a brand new game and mario cart is popular so it was worth 60 dollars because of the popularity of the franchise and the ignorance of the consumers because they didn't buy a we you has nothing to do with a resolution boost better framerate and cutting a multiplayer mode to add a different multiplayer mode has nothing to do with it it's worth 60 bucks because it's popular why is super mario 3d world plus bowser's free were 60 bucks some will say because of bowser's free free remote i'm going to tell you it's worth 60 bucks because it's mario mario is what makes the game worth 60 bucks anyways links awakening was a ground up remake which added new features the zelda dungeon maker with that was in there quality of life changes in a new mode so that example is invalid as well okay okay so they charged 60 bucks for links awakening what are they charging in for the same before like the remake of ratchet and clink in 2016 can someone tell me i already know what they charged the ratchet and clink remake in 2016 which did more than this it wasn't just a ground up remake with new features and new modes and new content it was a massively impressive one ratchet and clink 2016 fantastic reboot of the original game oh wait they sold it for 40 but nintendo did less work and sold it for 60 why is that oh wait is it possible zelda is a more popular ip than ratchet and clink is it possible that zelda is valued higher than ratchet and clink is it possible that what he's talking about here just proved my point that nintendo is charging 60 bucks for this ground up thing that other companies have done as well but they charge less so the point he says isn't valid before was is proven by the exact thing he talks about here it's funny anyways as for mario 3d all stars galaxy alone sold way more all right mario galaxy sales we let's see if we can get some we specific sales um i wanted to use that same website but maybe they don't have it on there so uh let's see here where's mario galaxy for we uh super mario galaxy 2 mario galaxy sold more than that so super mario galaxy sold 12.8 million okay so he's not wrong and that mario galaxy has outsold uh super mario 3d all stars because super mario 3d all stars it is a right around 9 million right now might be at 10 we're not really sure obviously but it's right around 9 million so he is right in that super mario galaxy outsold outsold 3d all stars alone but we also don't have final sales figures for 3d all stars it is is it theoretically possible by march 31st that super mario 3d all stars and the original mario galaxy sold the same amount yeah it is now let's go into some other things he mentions here 60 60 mario 64 sold way more all right well let's see mario 64 sales oops 64 sales and 64 i'm assuming he's he's correct on this by the way that it's sold more yeah mario 64 11.9 not way more by the way i think 3d all stars will probably end up outselling mario 64 so i wouldn't consider that way more it's like a million more right now barely outsells mario sunshine all right mario sunshine sales oh got the s there mario sunshine sales uh game cube because i'm trying to make sure it's just the game cube version not including everything all right mario sunshine mario sunshine sold 6.28 million it barely outsold it when it's almost 4 million more sold i mean it's almost double the sales of mario sunshine that's not barely anyways also let's not forget that they made this game unlimited release physical and digital thus forcing people who didn't want to buy it or at least not now to buy it now or never in a situation where proposed value is high this is not necessary yes nintendo full mode super mario 3d all stars fear of missing out they totally did that it's a totally shitty thing they did not disagreeing with you but they didn't force you to buy it people are under this assumption that when super mario 3d all stars stops going for sale digital and physical on march 31st or maybe through march 31st so maybe that's all april 1st or whatever when it happens that we're just done yeah april that's our march so people just assume that boom you can't buy the game anymore many retailers will still have copies of the game not sold sitting in stock and there's a resale market you'll still be able to buy super mario 3d all stars in three years physically not digitally but physically you'll still be able to buy the game even if nintendo doesn't print anymore copies and we still don't know if nintendo is gonna double dip there's a huge presumption right now that nintendo is about to double dip with 3d all stars they're either going to bring it back in limited quantities later in the year like they did with the nests and snes classic or they're gonna release the games individually for higher prices people don't honestly think nintendo is only gonna have these games available through march 31st they truly think nintendo is just gonna find another way to profit off them and why are they gonna do that because nintendo values their ip's anyways um i do appreciate you taking how many your day but i feel this this will allow let me know i didn't the fact oh this is this is the party look at this edit you don't address the facts that not only do you and other creators make more than the average person i'll talk about what i make i'll give you an idea by the way i guarantee almost everyone in this chat that's not a child makes more money than i do i'm not going to like show you my tax returns or something but we'll talk about this in a moment um you get some i know not all things for free okay we'll address that as well along with the undeniable ability to chalk a lot of your game and console purchases up to a tax write off not wrong i haven't written anything off on my taxes in a long time but he's not wrong even if this wasn't the case there's a global pandemic make it even harder than it already is for normal people to throw money away and stuff like this not everyone can insta buy every game with no regrets nobody should insta buy every game regardless of a pandemic that's a you like we all work within our budgets but let me address these points you and other content creators i can't speak for other content creators i can't speak for them i have no idea what their financial situations are what they make or any of that but i make more than the average person all right so i have a family of five right there's me my fiance my three children okay um let's just look at what medium income is supposed to be considered that so what's what's poverty let me see poverty level for a family of five all right so poverty level for according to the federal government in the united states for a family of five is 31 thousand and forty dollars last year this is just a rough ballpark estimate combined me and my fiance made 16 thousand dollars let's think about that for a moment poverty levels 31 thousand for a family of five me and my fiance made 16 thousand some of you guys will make more than that working full-time at mcdonald's how the hell aren't we homeless well i live in a little town in the middle of wisconsin the cost of living in this little town is cheap as fuck this house with my big yard 500 a month with electric included groceries health insurance uh rent it ends up costing roughly you know in this screw let's let's throw internet in let's throw internet in it costs roughly a thousand bucks for a family of five to survive where i am per month so you do the math we made 16 17 thousand it costs 12 thousand for us to live the life we have that gives us what 5000 in disposable income i can use that disposable income any way that we see fit so it doesn't look like i got a bunch of shit back here sure do i have a decent camera here absolutely do i have uh 1500 dollar laptop right here for school sure as hell do i have a nice editing computer yep although to be fair uh two of the pieces that editing computer were donated this wasn't because um a company sent me anything for free a friend sent me the um 5700 xt that's in the system literally a friend sent that to me uh and just gave it to me uh and then my avar media 4k capture card that's in there again was donated by a friend uh these are just people i'm friends with that wanted to help me out and gave me it i did pay for the rise in 27 on our x the motherboard the case the ram uh the prior gpu that used to be a 1070 that was in my system i paid for that um whatever this camera i you know this camera was actually paid for with donations so that is something i got because of youtube but it i also got it through youtube right like this camera is used for youtube but it was paid for by the money i made on youtube so anyways but so that's just so that's the medium income and we're well below that okay so why can i do giveaways why can i do because i have the extra revenue to do as much does it mean that i'm rich fuck no um most of the time i have hardly any money in the bank right now god here i'll show you not that this matters and i don't need people to give me money i appreciate when people donate but they don't have to see if i can show you there's my bank is it gonna show up probably not anyways uh maybe at the right angle i'm sure someone well here let me go to main camp maybe if i make the picture bigger no that's still doesn't really show kind of like that maybe there is currently 159 dollars and 85 cents in my bank that's what it says 159 dollars and eight cents that sound like someone that's making a shitload of money and i make more than the average person no personally i'm not stupid why live in areas that cost a shitload to live when you could live somewhere else where 725 is realistically enough to support a family of five i'm smart i save now right now i'm a little bit better off than normal this is because i'm in college and when i'm in college i'm in a tech school and i take out the maximum i can with grants grants are money that the government will give you for college as a student that you don't have to pay back grants cover the cost of my college and then i end up having some extra okay my area is not dangerous by the way has nothing to do i don't i don't mean to like brag but according to time magazine the town i live in is the best town to raise a family in and all of the united states not subjective of course but it's extremely safe and we do have decent schools but it's just a small town what happens when you get away from where a majority of people live is that things become cheaper a lot cheaper all right that being said i'm not trying to like brag here i don't have a ton of money it's just i'm smart with the money i do get and i live in an area that doesn't cost much to live and i all have some extra money because of college temporary boost when i graduate college and i end up making 50 000 a year coming right out of college oh my god it's going to feel like i'm rich because the cost of living is so low around here that i can do a hell of a lot with 51 000 same with my fiance when she graduates because then we're going to be making probably combined over 100 k as a family and then jeez it's going to feel like we're rich people presume that my parents are rich in this area just because god look at all this nice stuff they have and it's like it's just really fucking cheap to live here you know for a house like this closer to the cities god you're talking almost three grand a month for a house like we have you start getting stuff like that and you start to man that's really that's a lot of money i would never live near a city because of the cost of living it's hard enough just to get a hotel room in the city god it costs almost as much as one month of rent all right anyways going on uh he says uh you get some i know not all things for free i have not gotten a free triple a video game sky well ironically since skyward sword since skyward sword um back in 2011 when i worked at zelda informer that's the last time i got a free triple a video game i won't say i don't get free games in my email inbox right now my nintendo prime email inbox i've probably got a dozen indy game codes sitting in my inbox um indy game studios are constantly sending me codes um because they're trying to get you to cover their game because they're desperate for coverage so when they're desperate for coverage and attention they send youtube content creators a bunch of free codes i didn't ask for them they just get a hold of me and send me the codes i have maybe redeemed one or two of them ever on my switch i don't really redeem most of them i don't have interest in the games it doesn't matter if you give me the game for free if i have no interest to play it i'm not going to play it so and i tell them that too i'm like you guys don't have to keep sending me codes uh if i'm not interested interested in the game i'm not going to play it so i don't get games for free there are occasionally times when someone has bought me a free game on this channel but i didn't get it because companies are sending it to me most of my switch library which is over 80 games i paid for it show you oh let me let me do a better let me grab the boxes nintendo labo paid for it super mario 30 world plus bowser's fury paid for it super mario bros youth deluxe paid for it hire warriors age of calamity paid for it spiral this was sent to me by a fan i think the eighth so i did not pay for that one um mario odyssey this is the second time i bought the game because i sold my original copy paid for it captain toa treasure tracker paid for it twice because i technically bought it on we you nintendo labo uh toy com 4 the vr kit paid for it pokemon let's go evie paid for mba 2k 20 paid for the witcher 3 wildland paid for it legend is all the breath of the wild pay for the legend is all the breath of the wild paid for my master copy of breath of the wild better paid for it i'm certainly bought breath of the wild like five times buy my games ring fit adventure here says ring fit bought paid for i buy my own stuff i don't get free i wish i got free i wish i got free games i don't get free games i pay for them like everybody else all right now things i i do randomly get for free things i do randomly get for free this game sir controller technically i was given this for free um i'm trying to see uh anything else companies send me oh bakadan champions of vestoria that i haven't even opened that was sent to me for free have no interest in playing it hence why it's not open then ask for it that is a legit game that was sent to me another legit game that was sent to me uh was roller coaster tycoon was sent to me for a switch i don't know yeah up there i don't know if you can see it's going to see the bottom of the box roller coaster tycoon um what is it roller coaster tycoon complete edition they sent me that game for free so i'm not gonna say i don't get some free games i just don't get the triple a ones and the ones i'm interested in all the games i want to play i pay for i want to bought roller coaster tycoon or bakadan uh autopad traveler back there that was sent to me by a fan i'm trying to look at if there's anything else i've actually gotten for free from a company like you see all the stuff back here like the xbox series x bought it all three of my switches back to switch boxes have been bought and paid for the xbox one xbox bought and paid for um all this stuff was about the apple 4k tv thing bought and paid for by me um i mean i'm looking around even my studio right now everything i bought and paid for this might be like the only thing that a company sent me besides those two games i mentioned and i don't even really use this controller i want actually i probably should use it more often there's a interesting the controller is actually really great i gotta figure out there's like a syncing issue with switch i gotta figure out with this controller um but i really like i almost like the feel of it more than the pro controller anyway getting that getting that later because i have a theory about the syncing issue because i didn't have an issue with my friend's switch so i think there might be an issue with my bluetooth chip on my uh switch because it happened after my kids threw my switch that's first world problems point is that i don't really get the stuff for free to be completely honest um as for as for tax write offs i don't use them for tax write offs i can use all these purchases for tax write offs i don't because i don't make enough money to write off anything um i just don't i have three children so i don't have to write off anything you get a tax credit for having children that tax credit more than covers any taxes i would need to pay so i actually don't pay taxes on my youtube revenue pay taxes on other revenue on my other job but i don't pay taxes on youtube revenue um so i don't actually need to write anything off i actually get smaller tax returns if i write stuff off so for now i don't write anything off can i write off stuff in the future absolutely do a lot of other content creators that are way better off than i am write things off absolutely you should but that's just part of work um even if this wasn't the case there's a global pandemic making it even harder than it already is for normal people to throw money away and stuff like this i appreciate the pandemic i appreciate people losing jobs and making less money video game sales exploded during the pandemic video game industry was the only industry to not be negatively impacted um money spend wise people chose to take their disposable income and invest in gaming during the pandemic is basically what i'm trying to say just a fact based statement so and that's what irt 35 says in the chat global pandemic has dramatically increased game sales all right so i just don't like these presumptions made about me i'm not well off i don't make a shitload of money i'm just lucky to live where i live uh lucky to have the bills that i do to have the life that i have uh and i'm lucky to have the disposable income but it's not because i'm rich i'm poor financially i'm just rich in life did i say i appreciate the pandemic i didn't mean man that's a really niche master word that's exactly what i said i said i meant i appreciate that people are suffering during the pandemic i didn't mean i appreciate the pandemic itself yeah the global pandemic's been interesting with game sales and tech sales in general like you can't get new gpu's like the latest gpu's and cpu's you can't buy them some of that just because of supply shortages others just because more people are spending money on stuff to do at home um imminent text you don't have to answer to anybody just keep doing what you're doing these people love hating on you i don't even know this guy's hating on me i think he's just making some this guy's just making some assumptions but like let's let's refresh this video and just go to some of the latest comments you know because i wanted to talk about people and um how they're referring to me or how they're talking about this way 309 comments this is clearly something people are passionate about uh philip wilson says i appreciate this video and i think it's an interesting perspective i do want uh to demer however that while the zelda ip itself is highly valuable this game of particular is not worth the asking price the issue here in my uh opinion is exploitation the comparison between final fantasy seven scourge sort only reinforces that to me a final fantasy seven is practically a new game scourge sort hd is simply not final fantasy seven remake is not a new game they have conditioned you to think it's a new game it's not technically a new game it's just not it's not final fantasy seven remake is called the remake for a reason because it's not new in terms of being a new game and they didn't even give you the full game but again personal the personal opinions on perceived value that's my big thing in all this perceived value perceived value perceived value perceived value perceived value is up to the individual if you guys think scourge sort hd along with other nintendo games that nintendo charges 60 bucks for aren't worth the asking price and stop buying them but enough people think it is that they do and so nintendo can keep doing it you can hate it I hate that I you know if I play I hate the guilt that happens sometimes when I buy games and other platforms I'll give you an example I just you know what game was I can't remember there was a game on um xbox one some third party game it was lawbreakers I think I bought that game at launch full price 60 bucks one week later the game costs $30 you want to talk about buyers remorse about buyers remorse in one week the game I spent 60 bucks on had the price cut in half there's a negative side to this that people don't pay attention with these price cuts it makes people feel guilty for buying at launch then you're like then you get conditioned not to buy games at launch right don't buy games at launch then but then launch is one of the most exciting times to play games especially with the age of the internet and social media right launch is the most exciting time to play games because one biggest player places at launch and two everyone else is enjoying that game or a lot of other people are enjoying that game at the same time and there's a community aspect to gaming that makes buying games at launch exciting but then they devalued the game a week later and you're like god I shouldn't have spent 60 bucks on this game clearly it wasn't worth 60 bucks there's a given tank perceived value yeah $50 at walmart we know walmart does their undercutting of the whole industry yadda yadda yadda that's just walmart getting you into their store hoping you'll buy more than just games um this guy says thank you lesser sellers get the price cut and block us to try to stay up full simple as that um it's nintendo not trying to take sides at all nintendo can do whatever they want with their product that's true nintendo is not putting a gun to anyone's head and saying buy our games I think this needs to be stated as well nintendo does not control whether you buy their games or not you control whether you buy their games or not you don't like skyward sword hd at 60 bucks and don't buy it at 60 bucks if you don't like it at 60 bucks but you still buy it at 60 bucks then really you're not really that that concerned with the price me yeah i think skyward sword probably shouldn't be 60 bucks i'm also going to spend 60 bucks on the game because to me what they're doing with it is worth it for me because my perceived value is i would spend 60 bucks to have any zelda game re-release in hd at 60 fps because i value zelda that highly others don't have to and that's okay um this is why i don't take these pro consumer youtubers all that seriously they're lazy-minded and short-sighted um narratives fall flat in the face of concrete evidence um seriously finally someone who gets it see some positive comments everyone oh sorry everyone else is complaining because i don't think they actually get it i mean we should realize how valuable the legend of zelda is based on the fact that as of now the hd remakes we are still valued at full price isn't that funny the we you remakes still haven't gone down in price they're not really remakes but anyways that's different that's the maybe you can call them remasters at best especially the wind waker it's why the princess is more like i don't know i guess let's still call them remakes because they replace textures uh that was the cheapest i saw for them by the way here and i'll show you winmaker hd cost me seventy five dollars from from their version of games that have eb games uh twilight princess had a five dollar price cut jesus um twilight princess hd had more effort put into it they went in and redid textures they had to what's lost in there is a had to twilight princess just up reservoir emulator still look like it looks like dog shit that they had to replace textures but when you look at scabber sword side by side and we footage nothing has been touched up so i address this um in a post on neo yeah i i mentioned it i mentioned it in the video but i said i wasn't gonna talk about it because that's just subjective viewpoints of visuals um but let's get into let's see if uh if that thread's still here um and here i'll even prove to you that it's me see username arrow login it's me i made i made the post that can i like jump to my own post i think there's a way to do that uh your content um all right here it is here's here's my post i responded to someone i said because they were they were saying they were saying the same thing the game doesn't look any better in hd so what the hell i said so this is sort of unrelated to the question of critiquing the price the skyward store was a 480p game on we you know like every single we game what nintendo did or choose to do anyways was use a painter art style that would look good at the given resolution of the system to be fair back in 2011 this game was one of the best looking games on we i mean it's just personal opinion but it really was a good looking game back in 2011 specifically because of this decision note how it doesn't really look much better just because they slapped a higher resolution on it because it was literally designed to look good at lower resolution it was an art style purpose built to not actually be beneficial in hd rather to look great at low res so when we talk about remaster which by the way nintendo is not calling this a remaster they're not uh they didn't call the winmaker hd a remaster either nor did they call twilight princess hd a remaster they're literally uprising the games though we know the winmaker got new model work done what we're really talking about is uprising the game while the character models will be crisper overall the world is actually likely to feel somewhat blurry even at hd because that was literally the purpose of the art style was to look good while being blurry uprising is not going to fundamentally make it look a thousand next better so then you can argue of course you know you can argue we'll go back to our just the big camera now you can argue that well that's exactly why they need to redo the visuals they didn't change the visual style of the winmaker they didn't change the visual style of twilight princess those games were not using art styles that were purpose built for blurry 480p skyward sword's art direction this painter style they used was purpose built for 480p blurry because people were using hd tvs at the time and they wanted the game to look as good as it possibly could on these 1080p tvs when the game was only outputting at 480p and they they achieved that by using this painter art style that doesn't matter if the game was an hd or not to do something about that would be to change the entire art style of skyward sword that's what they're asking the Nintendo to do change the art direction of skyward sword to bring it back in hd at that point you're pretty much doing a remake which would be more than they did on the winmaker and twilight princess so it's just an art direction choice that's all when i see comments like that it's just art direction all right um oh yeah someone timed out i'm a scam where are the codes people get really upset when i'm not given away like when i mentioned i'm gonna move e shop codes and i don't give them away like every five seconds it's like no one's obligator to do anything hey we got a new is that new youtube member hey chris kurosaki thank you so much for becoming a member on youtube man i don't push the membership stuff a lot but i probably should i would like to get like a hundred or maybe let's let's make it small like 50 members on youtube would be great i think we're at like six but thanks man i really appreciate you becoming a member means a lot um so let me get this taken care of for you guys um so what are your guys's thoughts on the chat i know i haven't talked a ton to the chat outside of when people super chatted and stuff because obviously super chats people paid money to have their messages prioritized so i'm gonna obviously you know honor that i'm not an idiot god you're such an idiot god i feel so old i know how i don't hold that video is the pulling dynamite um i wouldn't worry about it some people are just sad doesn't atlas get away with charging 60 bucks probably i don't i don't know you thought neogaf neogaf's not dead so what happened is the owner of neogaf some really stupid shit and instead of trying to like let him fully explain and maybe um potentially offer him the chance for forgiveness which i'm not saying you everyone use it as an excuse to make reset era well it turns out that while it's nice to have reset era it's kind of gets a little too political for my liking that's why i don't like talking about it a reset era is basically ran by social justice warriors and i'm not saying it's wrong to be a social justice warrior i'm just saying that that's how they run their website you can't have opinions that are contrary to the popular belief as an example if you're on reset era and you don't think boogie 2988 is the biggest piece of shit in the world if you don't think beauty pie is a piece of shit you're going to be banned you have to agree with their group think mentality based on social justice issues if you disagree if you give people the benefit of the doubt for being people and making mistakes you are chastised and banned i was banned because i said i don't think beauty pie is the biggest piece of shit in the world banned because i disagreed with their group think so what happened is because reset era is so authoritarian authoritarian and how they handle difference in opinions on their website it led to some people running back to neogaf which is the opposite neogaf is much more open to people having different opinions so now we have neogaf and reset era both kind of existing both kind of remaining relevant in a way in the end the only reason any of us know about these places are because video game developers and industry insiders post at both websites and because they post at both websites both of them remain relevant because there really isn't anywhere else we know the game developers and industry insiders are consistently talking besides on twitter so anyways this isn't me saying that neogaf is a good place to be at it's not i literally these are the first couple posts i've made they're like let me look at my account um the last time i made a post there before those two was um xbox were powerful than playstation 5 back in december of of uh 2020 um before i talked to the before i got into the debate over xbox versus playstation i hadn't made a post besides in that one thread about dust golem um and talking about playstation 5 versus xbox series x back in december before that i hadn't made a post since august 15 of 2018 so like i basically never post a neogaf but do i go there sometimes to find some news same with reset error absolutely they are places i check on the daily to find news uh dany teacogs is honestly i think there might be a surprise zelda thing next week it's possible that's possible all right someone want to win an e-shop gift card let's give away a nintendo switch e-shop gift card right now why not why not why not all right here we go if you would like to win a nintendo switch e-shop gift card in the chat in the chat one time only don't repeat it type out the following i'm about type it in the chat boom so type out in the chat zelda rocks with an exclamation point all one word capital z capital r to win a five dollar e-shop gift code okay i'll give away two of them right now why let's let's just do two i will give away two of those five dollar e-shop gift codes right now basically because i bought two of them so why not just five bucks if you win um literally like head over to the twitter or discord dms and just dme and i'll give you the code as soon as you prove who you are who you are some people i know like if they're like regulars i know how to get hold of some of you guys i got discord but obviously the non regulars i might not have ways to contact you already remember the exclamation point on zelda rocks or the uh bot won't three percent chance to win it's a lot of people that's not that many people i've had giveaways where we have like 300 people watching the stream i inspired you to work on your your health and content issue good hopefully especially once i complete my weight loss journey i really hope that that the end of the weight loss journey ends up being the real inspiration when people see look you saw how bad i was look at where i am like you know right now i'm still you know i'm still tubby i'm still a chubby mother effort you don't have to have discord you can be twitter potentially you could email me maybe all right we're gonna end entries here um entries and here all right all right let's get a couple winners picked shall we all right our first winner is me click all right our first winner is the project of gamers the project of gamers congratulations uh message me on twitter or on discord to get your code and proof of obviously who you are i need a screenshot of you logged in on youtube if you're on discord you can literally connect your youtube account to discord so the project of gamers is winner number one congratulations man winner number two is who knew so the winner number two is seahawks rule 24 gotta love randomizers all right so seahawks rule 24 and project of gamers wait project how do you say the name the project of gamers those are the two winners seahawks rule 24 the project seahawks rule 24 you know hit me up i think you're on i think you're on discord aren't you you just hit me up and i'll shoot you the code um i i'm not worried about verification for you obviously you've been a regular a long time i know i know what your accounts are so shoot me the thing project of gamers um is gonna hit me up on twitter reproof all right sounds good just DM me my dms are open on twitter project of gamers so i decided to leave them open some people don't leave them open but i decided to leave mine open that doesn't mean i get i also love when people like pulls on a full full blown essay yeah it's really easier for me to type things really fast when i when i make really long comment responses to people people assume man it must take you like an hour i might give that's been like maybe three minutes i'm a really fast diaper um heck i just missed the giveaway it's all right um nates getting famous youtubers on his live stream chats these days the 8th dark what are you talking about was there was there a famous youtuber in my live stream chat today was there someone in my live stream chat that i didn't even notice i don't know all the popular live like all the popular youtubers i saw the 8th dark say that on discord and i'm like who's in my chat that's like popular i mean game over jesse is that what you mean was that who you're referencing game over jesse game over jesse and i go back a long ways he and i have been friends for a long time online anyways online friends i mean i've met him in person and stuff but i would say for online friends you know so that's who you were talking about then i've just known him a long time we knew each other before either of us were popular at all gotta remember like he's at 94 000 subs with like you know one of my 30k behind him i'm not i'm not too far behind me i wish i was at 94 000 subs but he doesn't he doesn't get a lot of views on his new videos though well like let me give you an example he uh uh let me go to the latest videos not popular uploads so like you know his last video skyward sword hd amiibo support confirmed okay um and maybe i'll talk about that a bit um that he's got like 6 000 views 23 i guess he's getting better views than he was there was a time when he was when home let me go yeah back here it's like a month ago he was getting like a thousand views a video a month ago but now he's getting more views for video i see why so he was doing more than zelda for a while and people weren't watching his videos now he basically just does zelda content now people are watching his videos again well good good for him he's getting some success on youtube again good for him what's up game over jesse i do man i'm glad to see that your your videos are starting to do better viewership wise than they were you know months ago i'm glad hit dude hit 100k this year man do it do it come on game over jesse hit 100k you can do it i believe in you you messaged me all right let me open up discord there you go boom the reason i thought it was funny that seahawks 24 will win the $5 one is he won even a $20 one off me like back in october seahawks 24 rolls now is now actually somehow won two two of my eShop gift card giveaway that's why i'm like really he won i almost gave it to somebody else just because of that but we're all good we're all good um the other guy i'm waiting to i said on twitter with proof so all right what's my discord uh i'll drop a link to my discord here um i have no problem it most the discord channel is private but we do have a public channel just being honest so most most of the discord channel is private for youtube members or patreon members etc but the main public chit chat channel is obviously there for the public you know to talk it so there is a public chat channel and if you link your account like i saw the project of gamers just landed if you link your youtube account to your discord account it's really easy to for me to verify that uh that you're the winner project gamers guys saw i see you over on discord now see a few people joining we got pc see funny thing is i got discord open on my other on my laptop or that i use for school and i got uh project or gamers pc 1800 simons 1229 new blood here but look at all these new people joining in the streams i should probably mention the discord channel more in streams now i i talk in the chit chat in that channel once in a while if you really want me to respond you want to you want to be in the premium chats because i read those and i respond more often than i do in the public chat the public chat i mostly just re-advertise content but i will respond to people in the public chat once in a while it's just you know i don't have all day long to sit here and just respond to people like when i'm done with this i'm probably going to work on my next video for the channel and then homework i'm trying and yeah my video slowed down last year because of some family stuff um and my right hand was paralyzed which means i couldn't upload anything yeah well sorry to hear about your right hand i someone uh i think it was who told me something was was going on with you um captain captain berguson i think he uh told me he wouldn't tell me exactly what was going on but he mentioned that you were having some some issues and i i didn't want to dig into any of it you know i figured if you wanted to talk to me man you'll talk to me i'm not gonna dig into people's personal lives um but yeah your channel seems to be uh turning around man so keep it up hey and if you happen to have more time now to do stuff uh maybe i should get you in on the next episode of the podcast i'm recording it uh Wednesday night if you want to get in on that if you have time we re we rebooted the podcast a whole new setup so if you want to get in on that i know i've invited you in the past and then stuff came up and you didn't show up so i figured you know what i'll extend the invite again see if you'll see if you'll come around um yeah so i run Wednesday night 8 p.m central time is usually when i when i do the podcast the podcast goes for about um gosh hour and a half roughly can can vary though um you watched the rebooted one the one i pulled up a few a few days ago awesome what a scam nat stan nista i gave away two codes i'm such a scammer winners want to confirm you guys are funny you guys you guys are so funny man his giveaways are fake i literally like people in the check-in confirm there you go the project of gamers just got his code too i literally gave away two codes like 10 minutes ago man but i'm a scammer people always think when they don't win it's a scam it's like i don't i can't god why do people think i'm rich's son i always like rich and i literally could have been in high school together but people think i'm his son for some reason i don't i don't get it i don't get it like why do people think i'm i'm revue tech usa's son like literally work very close to the same age i don't understand it i guess what it's more a compliment wait is it more of an insult to rich that people think he's my dad or is it more a compliment to me that people think i'm younger than i really am so are we insulting rich by people thinking he's a lot older or are we complimenting me by by saying that i look like i'm you know 21 or something i literally have gray in my beard guys this guy's so rich i literally just showed my bank account earlier i gotta hunt well i don't have 159 i have 149 dollars in my bank currently so rich though just ballin i'm just ballin over here i'm smart with my money and i live in an area that's cheap to live that's my secret my secret isn't that i make a shitload of money i wish i wish i made a shitload of money but i don't if you're older than 30 well i turn 35 this year that's the thing i'm right on the borderline of what you're talking about mr. combustible 11 because i turn 35 in july um i do think i make so much hold on i'll show you guys i make so much money where is um let's go back to the view where i was showing stuff uh this one well wait hold on i can't have you guys see my login for youtube that would not be good that would not be good i literally can show you that i don't make what you what you think i make is that my password i forget my passwords and i've had i've had my password on youtube all right let's go to youtube studio now i'll show you i'm logged in i think i make so much money like fine forget my bank account forget my bank account by the way this is how many subs i got right now if people ever want to know since youtube won't show you the exact sub count uh analytics i think yeah analytics revenue i used the the mobile app so last 28 days 480 bucks jan february i've made 375 dollars on youtube this month but remember i'm rich man look at all the money i'm making god i'm loaded father of three that 374 dollars i'm making holy shit i mean you can go back i had a better month in january i mean i did make 708 dollars in january so i mean god i'm rich most of it back here i mean let's go back further december made a little more in december almost 900 uh can i go back further i think i can let's go to uh i want to go back just a month let's go to october or november november there's november made 880 let's go to october 421 i mean you know i make shit loads of money i'm just rich over here i'm a i'm a youtuber ballin thought i was gonna give codes to everyone why would you think that why would where where does it say in my thumbnail everyone gets an e-shop code it just says free e-shop codes it doesn't say everyone gets a free e-shop code i don't know what to tell you man like like it's pretty like i'm laughing at the idea that anybody sees the word free e-shop codes and thinks man everyone's getting one let's let's say i gave we have 60 people watching like how much would i have to spend hold on so let's say five dollars minimum to 60 people i'd have to spend 310 dollars i'd have to spend basically what i made on youtube this entire month to do this one giveaway for everyone to get one that's a little insane it would cost me over 300 dollars to give everyone five bucks it's pretty ridiculous for anyone to think a youtuber is going to do that like even like mr beast who gives away tons of money isn't going to do a live stream and be like i'm going to give everyone in this stream five dollars because one he would have millions of people watching and it would cost him more money than he could get realistically no youtuber is going to do a live stream and say i'm giving everyone in this stream free money like jesus no youtuber can afford that except i mean maybe elon musk could pull it off maybe he's got enough in the bank if he only does the stream for like five minutes if he does it for like five minutes and gives away the money in that time maybe he can afford it to brian c look at him one of the mods i mean here's a novel idea i clicked on the stream and didn't even know that there was a giveaway at all come for the content and if there is a giveaway it's a bonus um he's a fake youtube account open to scam nate who knows no i'm in you can think i'm a scammer i really don't care no i'm a scammer go spread the word um i just watched listen to nate's sexy voice i gotta get my contacts oh that's right i think we'll get some contact solution today i'm like why aren't my contacts in i ran out of contact solution so my contacts are sitting in water right now if you don't know anything about contacts you're like oh it's water just put it back in no you do not put contacts in water and then put them in your eye i know contact solution seems like it's just water but it's not you will literally potentially give yourself an eye infection so no i need i need to go get some some contact solution today but i don't mind my glasses sometimes i don't like them in videos because like the light the ring light you can kind of see right the reflection of the ring light sometimes the reflection of the monitors or other lighting i have in other situations why i like wearing contacts there's no reflections them plus i think i look better with contacts although i look a lot better with these glasses now than i used to back when i was back when i was a big fatty just me too fatties anyone know what movie that's from i'm i'm manner rexic i don't know how many people in the chat um well now people think because nate did a couple big giveaways he's always giving people stuff he actually is if you would just want more i i'm i'm i do little giveaways like the little five dollar you shall give cards i do that pretty frequent but you know five dollars here or there is whatever i i just i don't you know i can't do the big giveaways all the time i gave away a playstation five that was like all of my disposable income to do that now i'm still trying to get a playstation five for my channel but um stan oh my god a big zelda youtube are talking to me i wonder if that's how people felt i wonder if people felt that way back when i ran zelda informer and i would talk with them oh man this big zelda guy's talking to me i remember going to pick up the we you in person at walmart um back in the heyday of zelda informer and being recognized as i was waiting because i didn't have a preorder for the system so i was waiting for like one of three systems i had for non preorder people and i remember sitting in line with other people i was the first person in line i got there super early and i got to wait in the store because it was 24 hour walmart so i got there super early first person in line and i remember other people walking up to me and being like holy shit you're nate from zelda informer i wasn't wearing a zelda informer shirt i was wearing a zelda shirt but i wasn't wearing a zelda informer shirt um i was wearing nothing that indicated where i was from or who i worked for in zelda informer wasn't even a place that my face was in the front of a lot people just knew who i was i still don't really like i didn't hide my face i think i used it in my as my profile pic in the comment section so like people recognize me in my little town they're like holy shit you're nate from zelda informer and i literally on launch day of we you signed seven we use i told them you're just devaluing your console by having me sign it but all right i signed seven consoles because people recognize me from zelda informer people don't recognize me from nintendo prime nobody the fucking knows what nintendo prime is around here no one knows nintendo prime anywhere like i don't get recognized at e3 i don't get recognized really anywhere the only people that recognize me are other youtubers so like when game over jesse sees me at e3 he recognizes me of course but he knew me before youtube um when uh bob wolf recognizes me he recognizes me because he's a youtuber like fans don't really recognize me because i'm not very popular i'm not big enough to have a big enough fan base in any one area that people just recognize me on the on the street you know but when i ran zelda informer zelda informer was way bigger than my youtube channel's ever been so i legitimately got recognized in my hometown by people because of zelda informer zelda informer people don't may might not realize zelda informer was massive man the heck the facebook page still exists it has like 800 000 plus people and when i ran it in its heyday it had almost a million like zelda informer was a big deal back in the day nowadays it exists anymore so um 63k people know you not really of the 63 000 people that have hit subscribe i would be willing to bet half of those people are dead accounts which is true for everyone like pewdiepie has you know 100 and whatever million people subscribe to him i mean 90 million of those people are probably dead accounts so game over jesse is the zelda youtuber yeah he has all he do you still do the podcast he has a podcast at least he did the champions cast right wasn't it um but he's been doing a lot of zelda content it's what he does it's what he does lots of zelda content he's done content for other things like if you ever look at his most popular videos it's not all zelda um you know top 500 release mario games a few years back you know but you don't notice there's a lot of zelda stuff how to kill a lionel easy 2.2 million views he's he game over jesse has had a number of videos go viral a number way bigger than me like just looking at his top his 123 his 12 most popular videos i mean equals out to like the total views on my whole channel so like he's had a number of videos go viral you know three four five years ago but he's back to getting good views i mean he just had 23k views on a video not too long ago i mean i can get 20k on a video sometimes you know i think i got 10k on a video two days ago or something but it's nice to see that that he's back to doing good i can't believe we haven't gotten cap berguson to a thousand subscribers i know he doesn't really do much on his channel but you might and it'd be nice to get him you know to it you know he's been doing a couple streams of 3d world over there i should i should be like hey go subscribe to cap berguson's great um anyways you just intend to prime simpacum simping simping um can you get john tron on the podcast i don't even think john tron would respond to me i struggle to get people like player essence on the podcast who does respond to me um dug walker who the heck is dug walker dug walker never heard of that guy is he from channel awesome that's what pops up when i type in dug walker you see the nostalgia critic is that why looks like they renamed the channel so he must be the nostalgia critic i'm guessing see i've heard of the nostalgia critic but i doubt he'd respond i doubt he'd respond to me a lot of these massive youtubers don't aren't going to respond to youtubers that have you know like less than 100,000 less than 500,000 etc people like me don't get the attention of the youtubers like that because we're youtubers my size on youtube are like a dime a dozen there's a lot of us thanks for that hope you can win this year too man city vs arsenal nice he was talking with some stuff um supernal day was very good supernal day is a good guy the problem uh with smd and some really a problem um it's just why it's hard to have him as a guest all the time supernal day doesn't have the greatest internet connection so he cuts out a lot so when you guys heard that episode of the podcast supernal they've sent me an audio file he recorded his audio separately i had to splice his audio in every time he talked i had to edit the podcast to get his audio to work and what happens is sometimes i have to cut out me talking or eric talking because davis talking and we couldn't hear him uh other times it's hard to have a conversation with him because i have no idea what he's saying during the podcast i just have no clue what he's saying so i don't even know what supernal dave is saying until after i splice in his own audio so it leads to a really awkward podcast i try my best to make it seem natural but eric and i can barely hear anything that he says during the whole podcast so that's what makes it hard it just doesn't have good enough internet um for me to be like yeah let's try to get him on every week once in a while i'll still get a mile i'll make it work but um right now i think uh well i want it'd be great to get game over jesse on the next podcast the one after that i'm trying to get miss click on i've been talking to her a little bit in dms uh which would be interesting because miss click would be the first female guess we've had so that'll be nice to get her in so i'm going for uh hopefully game over jesse this week because i don't have anyone scheduled this week yet and then we'll then i'll try to get miss click gaming on the one after that you know i should reach out to i should reach out to uh to try to try to add some more diversity you know get some more female voices and then maybe i should reach out to um holly wolf she responds to me sometimes i never i never did anything with her i know she's been on game over jesse's channel a couple times i'm sure i can get her to come guess on a podcast she's super nice she's super super nice and she knows a lot about games she's a legit gamer yeah holly's great so i'm sure i can get her on i've just never bothered to ask her but i'm sure she'd come on and she's got a big following granted if we're honest a lot of people are following her because they're simps like legit simps they're on her only fans they're been following her career since she appeared in a certain magazine so that's not yeah she's not dumb she knows that that's why a lot of people look at her stuff but that doesn't mean that she's not a person doesn't mean that she's not really good at games and she hates when people do the whole simping inappropriate thing in the chat she bans them so what's good for her because she doesn't want to be viewed as just like a sex symbol which good it's part of who she is but it's not the entire whole i'd like to get her on a pocket i'm sure she'd come in she's a good person um you're my you i'm your usual go-to channel dandy teacon game june game who is game june game jude is that doesn't look like someone i mean this person hasn't what's the last video they did eight months ago they're not even active if this is the person you're talking about so they're not even active youtuber so probably not are you talking about the game yeah i i've never seen game general anything about this guy so uh literally there are there are uh okay so there are some youtubers that make a shitload of money that have revealed it but i want to be honest about revealing how much people make on youtube nobody has to reveal how much money they make if how much money someone makes is a very private matter you know say you know forget youtube say that you're working at um some fortune 500 company or something are you walking around telling people how much money you make like think about it do we walk around in life telling people hey i make 50 000 a year hey i make 150 000 a year hey i only make 12 000 a year do we walk around and just tell people what we're making all the time that's just not something you talk about income is a very personal matter and even just looking at oh this is how much revenue you make on youtube it doesn't count the taxes you pay on that revenue it doesn't count um how much of that revenue might go to certain things like you have to pay child support or something like seriously people don't have to reveal the money i don't have a problem doing it because i you know i i like to disprove this idea that people think i'm rich because i have giveaways i'm just smart with my money i want more money i wish i had more money why didn't i'm in college god if i was happy with my income level i wouldn't i would just stay at w