The general election is in full swing and Joe Biden and Donald Trump are already exchanging insults through various annoying political television advertisements. And I will just say that trying to analyze this objectively speaking, based on what I'm seeing, Joe Biden is off to a very bad start. And I will say that making predictions at this point in time, when a lot can change between now and November, I think that's not very useful because COVID-19 has dramatically changed the 2020 election. This is an entirely different election now than it was six months ago, right? In the same way that Brexit changed the 2019 UK election, COVID-19 has transformed the 2020 US general election. And the individual who I think is going to do the best is the one who delivers a vision for America, a concise, simple vision that just says we're going to get back to normal. And, you know, we make fun of Democrats on Twitter because we say that vote balloon a matter who is basically MAGA for liberals. But that's actually, I think, a true statement in this instance. Whoever can promise to get Americans through this pandemic and make sure that we minimize suffering both economically and from the standpoint of health, that person who can convince people that things will return to normal, that's going to be the winner ultimately. And Joe Biden is off to a bad start because you can already see the type of election that he's going to run. So he's not very good at controlling the narrative. And Donald Trump has that incumbent advantage in the sense that he has the bully pulpit at his advantage, right? He tweets and it's a 24-hour news story, whatever he says. So Joe Biden, he's got to work extra hard to make sure that his message is out there. And already I see him failing, like Donald Trump is holding daily press briefings whereas Joe Biden is nowhere to be seen. Like if I'm Joe Biden's team, I'm trotting him out every single day so he can do a follow-up to Donald Trump's COVID-19 press briefing because it doesn't matter what Joe Biden is saying, the fact that he's there in and of itself is valuable. And the thing about Joe Biden's team is that what they're doing is they're allowing Donald Trump to craft the narrative and then they respond and debate an issue on Donald Trump's terms, which is a recipe for disaster. It's exactly what Hillary Clinton did. It embarrassed Elizabeth Warren, remember her DNA test. Sometimes you have to acknowledge that you lost a particular battle. You move on and you always try to have Donald Trump on the ropes. Like if you are a challenger going up against an incumbent, your number one goal is to discredit that individual. Call out their failures. You have no shortage of failings of Donald Trump.  But just these last couple of months with his handling of COVID-19, there's no shortage of Donald Trump's failures. So Joe Biden has a lot of tools at his disposal. The question is, will he use them? Now, I'm not saying that he should just basically try to go with this high and mighty response where he ignores and sidesteps all criticisms that Donald Trump throws at him, but I'm going to go through a couple of examples here and I want to show you where I think he could improve. So the first thing that we all knew Republicans would hit Joe Biden on was his obvious cognitive decline. Tucker Carlson talked about this, I think, the day of or day after Bernie Sanders dropped out and Donald Trump just tweeted out this joke ad and things like this are going to be very, very effective. Take a look. Not another commercial. So that is very effective. It's effective because it's true and it shows that Joe Biden is very obviously in cognitive decline. But on top of that, people see this as, oh, Donald Trump is just like you and I. We joke about people, we poke fun at our friends once in a while, so Donald Trump is just kind of doing the same thing, albeit to Joe Biden, his opponent. So this is funny, he's just like you and I. So I mean, if you're Joe Biden, I don't want to suggest that if I'm on his team, we'd be responding to every single attack. But I mean, if you have a president just go after your number one vulnerability and everyone's going to talk about this now for a week. The news is going to report on this. What do you do? Well, you don't necessarily address your own cognitive decline, but you call out Donald Trump's cognitive decline as well. I mean, if I'm on Joe Biden's team, we're putting together a montage of all of Donald Trump's incoherent statements, you know, raking the forest floors, big water. I'm the chosen one. Why can't we new hurricanes? Why can't we let COVID-19 wash over Americans? We're playing all of the greatest hits and we're going to be the ones who are talking about mental fitness, but not on Donald Trump's terms, on our terms. We're going to force Donald Trump to prove that he's the one that's competent.  And that's what you really want to do. If you're the challenger, you've got to have the incumbent on the ropes. You've got to put him in a position to where Donald Trump is playing offense because I think that's relatively easy to do. He's the incumbent president. His record is terrible. So use that to your advantage. Right? Make sure that we're talking about Donald Trump's inability to govern because he's not mentally fit. Don't make this about you. Don't let him make this about you. But that's just one example. And I don't know what the response to be fair will be to this. And I get that this is basically the Spider-Man pointing at Spider-Man meme in action. But if you want to win, you can't allow this to be the narrative. You've got to prove, OK, you know what? Sure, I'm in cognitive decline. You don't have to say that. But so is Donald Trump. No, you make that your strategy with regard to this issue. But let me show you why I think Joe Biden's team just doesn't have the correct strategy. So Donald Trump put out an attack ad against him and COVID-19 and China. And I'm going to tell you what I think the response should be followed with Joe Biden's actual response, which I think is not very persuasive. Ready to go? This is a crisis. This is no time for Donald Trump's record of hysterical xenophobia. Biden's son inked a billion-dollar deal with a subsidiary at the Bank of China. China is going to eat our lunch. Come on, man. They're not bad folks, folks. Since the outbreak, the Communist Party has been mobilizing overseas organizations to buy local supplies and send them to China. And it is in our self-interest that China continue to prosper. But a beautiful history we wrote together. Vending all travel will not stop. The president is right. The travel restriction on China is every public health official we've talked to who said bought the country time. That was a very smart move right there. There's hierarchical xenophobia. xenophobia. I complimented him on dealing with China. I'm not going nuts. Okay. So if I'm working for Joe Biden and I actually want to win, not convinced all Democrats want to win, but if I do want to win, what do I do? Because that's a very effective political ad. He, you know, hit Joe Biden for Hunter Biden's corruption. He played the clip of Dr. Fauci praising him, who is a very trusted figure in American politics right now. So what do you do in this instance? Because that's an ad that while I don't necessarily think it's going to broaden Donald Trump's coalition, Donald Trump doesn't necessarily have to win over more voters. Republicans win if turnout on the other side is low. So the thing that Joe Biden has to do in response to this is he can't just be reactive. He has to be proactive. Now, what do I mean by that? So obviously we attacked Donald Trump back. We hit him for his numerous failings. We call out the fact that he asked his own advisors why we can't just let COVID-19 wash over Americans, which would kill them. We call out the fact that he failed to take action. I think that's important. But you have to make the attack and then you move on quickly. You tell people exactly what you're going to do very simply to get their lives back to what it was before COVID-19. Basically, every other issue has been brushed aside. You know, healthcare education, people right now are most affected by COVID-19. And whoever is going to win this election, I think, will be able to prove that they're better off post pandemic with that individual. So if I'm Joe Biden, I'm saying these are all of Donald Trump's failings, but here's where we're going to turn things around. I'm going to make sure that you're protected from COVID-19. But on top of that, we're going to protect you economically speaking. So I gave Nancy Pelosi legislation that I want her to pass in the House. And if you deliver me a Democratic Senate, if you deliver us the White House on day number one, I'm signing that into law. And here's what that includes. Extended universal basic income of $2,000 every single month for the duration of this pandemic. On top of that, what we're going to do is extend unemployment benefits. We're going to expand our social safety net. We're going to spend in the economy. And we know that a lot of these jobs that are lost currently, they're not coming back. So we're going to have a federal jobs program that puts Americans back to work. So that way, if you lost your job specifically during this pandemic, you are going to have the benefit of getting a job from the government until you can find something back in the private sector, if that's what you prefer. But we're going to make sure that coming out of COVID-19 in this pandemic, you're as good, if not better off than you were before going into it. Because certainly before this pandemic, things weren't PGQ in America, but I'm going to make sure that we don't do worse off. Like that's the message. You simplify that as much as you can, wrap it in a nice little package, and you make Americans know that you're the person who is going to save them from this pandemic. And again, looking back to the 2019 election in the UK, part of the reason why Jeremy Corbyn lost to Boris Johnson is because Boris Johnson's message was simple, get Brexit done. That's what people wanted. And the problem is that Jeremy Corbyn, he didn't really have strong messaging here. He tried to play both sides and ride the fence. And I think that if you have a type of get us through COVID-19 message or back to normal message, even if that's literally what you want it to be, that can be really effective because people right now want relief. And they're not getting that. So that's what I would have done, right? Really focus on what we're going to do for people. Not worry too much about the attacks that Donald Trump lobbed against you. But instead, Joe Biden didn't do that. He responded to Donald Trump's attacks. And he tried to outflank Trump from the right rather than actually trying to just propose at least the centrist vision. I'm not even going to say left-leaning, but at least the centrist vision of what we can do to get us back to normal. I mean, any ad related to COVID that's political has to focus on getting us back to normal, getting us out of this. This is what Joe Biden put out. We are going to need to be in your country. You have to be open. You have to be clear. We have to know what's going on. But Trump rolled over for the Chinese. He took their word for it. The president tweeted, China has been working very hard to contain the coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts in transparency. China spoke with President Xi and they're working very, very hard. And I think it's going to all work out fine. Trump praised the Chinese 15 times in January and February as the coronavirus spread across the world. It's a tough situation. I think they're doing a very good job. Are you concerned about a potential impact on the global economy? I think that China will do a very good job. Trump never got a CDC team on the ground in China. And the travel ban he brags about? Trump led in 40,000 travelers from China into America after he signed it. Not exactly airtight. Look around. 22 million Americans are out of work and we have more officially reported cases and deaths than any other country. Donald Trump left this country unprepared and unprotected for the worst public health and economic crisis in our lifetime. And now we are paying the price. All the negative ads in the world can't change the truth. That was not a good ad. And it worries me because people who already support Joe Biden, Democratic Party loyalists and operatives, they love that ad. And I get thinking that this is a good ad if you're under the impression that the way you'll win this election is by convincing enough Trump voters to flip to you. But we know that that's not how Democrats win elections. Democrats win elections when turnout is high. They have to get people out of their houses to vote for you or if we can vote by mail. But you get what I'm saying. People have to be convinced to come out to vote. Turnout has to be high or you lose. And what he did there was go tit for tat with Donald Trump, which is not a good strategy because you can't play Donald Trump's game and beat him at his own game. So, you know, in the ad that Donald Trump ran, he showed a video of Joe Biden saying that Donald Trump is xenophobic. This ad communicate. No, Joe Biden doesn't care about xenophobia. In fact, he is xenophobic. Now, rule number one in all of politics is you always have to hold your base. Being xenophobic, trying to out xenophobe Donald Trump is not going to be a winning strategy because you're just going to demoralize your own base and they're going to stay home. They're going to stay home. So if you're running an ad, if you're taking any time to hit Donald Trump or COVID-19. Yes, you stayed where he failed. Joe Biden did that and moved on. But you have to tell people that you're going to save them from this pandemic. You can't just say, I would have been more xenophobic than Donald Trump. That does nothing to improve our lives at a very concrete level. And the fact that he doesn't get that, it's worrisome. Now, again, I don't I don't want to say that, you know, I should be making predictions because a lot can change between now and November. And maybe Joe Biden doesn't take any of my advice. Maybe his strategy is the same as it is and he still wins. COVID shaped up the selection. This is a very different game now. But with that being said, I think that he can improve his odds if he actually reads the room and acknowledges what's happening. Republicans just hit Nancy Pelosi with a really, really powerful ad. Trump's campaign manager hit her after she went on some late show and was boasting about all of the ice cream she stocked up on. On her giant fridges and showed how out of touch she is because people are hurting. That messaging is exactly what Joe Biden should be doing. You should never be outflanked by a Republican from the left and you should have learned this from 2016. You're never going to be perceived by the general electorate as being more right-wing than Donald Trump. But what you can do is try to convince people that you are going to lead them through this crisis and that you are concerned with the needs of the American people and you're not just worried. You know exactly what those needs are because you are in constant contact with people. But what we're seeing so far, if this is any indication of the trajectory that Joe Biden will continue on, I don't think he's going to do well. I don't think he's going to do well. I think he'll lose. So he's got to change it. Now again, I'm very reluctant to predict because I think that COVID-19 has changed the calculus here. But with that being said is if people are going to make that change from Donald Trump to Joe Biden, it's not going to happen by flipping Trump voters. It's going to happen by getting them to come out and vote against the status quo, which is Donald Trump. They have to believe that you're going to improve their lives. And you do that by telling them how you're going to improve their lives and understanding their suffering. Right now, the future looks grim. The current situation is abysmal, but we can't necessarily see the light at the end of the tunnel for tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, next week, next month. People are really terrified right now. So what we need is leadership. And we're not getting that. I mean, Joe Biden's team is being very one-dimensional in their approach to this. And I think it's going to backfire if they don't learn from all the mistakes that Hillary Clinton made in 2016. Like, I think that they believe that it's important to go to Wisconsin. It's important to campaign in the Rust Belt and hold white working class voters, you know, suburbanites, the Karens of the world. But you're still not going to win unless people believe they're going to be better off with you than Donald Trump. Because if Joe Biden wins, that means people think that we have to change the direction of the country. Even if he said business is going to be the same as usual, people oftentimes vote for the incumbent, not necessarily because they like the incumbent, but because voters are risk averse, right? They don't like to take risks. And if they just stick with what they know, which is the person who's in charge, they usually feel safer with that. So you've got to convince them that this is not the safe option. It's actually the riskier option. What I see so far is just it's like there's an iceberg dead ahead and we're heading straight towards it on the Joe Biden Democratic Titanic. And as we're headed towards that iceberg, you know, it's difficult to assess what's going to kill people on board first, the iceberg itself, or the fact that there's already holes in the ship and it's going down. So I just, I don't know. But what I do know is that what I'm seeing from Joe Biden working class Joe is that he's painfully out of touch. And if he actually cares about beating Donald Trump, again, not convinced that he is, he's got to change it up. It's simple. This is not rocket science. It's very simple. Tell them their lives are going to be better off with you as president. You're going to get them through COVID-19 and you can win. If you don't do that, people are going to opt for the same thing. And maybe they vote for Donald Trump or maybe they just stay home.  Period. End of story.


Hello everyone. I'm Steph, and I have loved putting Linux together, integrating it. I've contributed to over 100 different projects in the open source ecosystem, and that's in many ways why I was one of the folks who built Cockpit. Cockpit brings together a whole bunch of stuff and has done awesome things, but it talks to about, again, about 90 to 100 different parts of Linux in order to do its job. When we were doing that, we had to integrate it, we had to test it, we had to make sure it worked together, and so I got dragged into the strange world of continuous integration and testing. We're trying to make the operating system more integrated and work better together. So I'm a CI freak, and I often get teased about this. I work for Red Hat. Hey, I'm Tomasz, and I like containers. So, a self-maintaining package. What did we like that? What we really want is for the package to do its dirty work itself, to automatically have that taken care of for you, and you have instead of having something that you have to take care of bit by bit by bit, you basically have to train and take care of it in a much higher level way, but why would you want such a thing? Why are we looking at such a thing? Why is it an interesting problem for us to solve? It's much more fundamental than that. We bring together tons of packages into a Linux distro, Fedora. There's, what is it, five digits worth of packages, somewhere between 15 and 20,000, and we integrate them. And yet each of those packages upstream, most of them, do not have any immediate feedback on how they affect the rest of the distribution, the other 15,000 packages. We all contribute back to upstream individually, and this is awesome. You can read it right in the basic description of how to be a package maintainer. Send your work upstream. But as a distribution, we do that very, very poorly. The distribution itself represented in the upstream project, it's not really on the radar. They know it exists, but it's not in the workflow of those projects. Some upstream projects bring it into their workflow. I know that SystemD does this. Cockpit does this. There's a bunch of them that do this, where a certain pull request, a change is proposed to the project, and immediately testing is, they figure out how to do this. It takes forever. It took them six months to a year to implement something like this. Figure out how it works on the distribution.  But it's tough for this to happen for each of those projects. It's difficult to make this work. So let's be clear. We probably have a lot of people here are excited by the active packaging. And that's nice, but keep in mind, it's not exciting for most upstream projects. It's like the nasty stuff that they have to do. It's the cleaning up the mess of the baby. The baby is nice, but they don't want to keep taking care of that part. That part's not the highlight. So having the latest bits integrated with the rest and usable, that's exciting, but the mechanism to do it is not. So we already talked about the example of SystemD, but keep in mind, SystemD is awesome as it is, is completely inert by itself. It needs the rest, a whole bunch of other things, to run. Needs to be integrated with those things, and most importantly, when it breaks shit, it needs to know right away. Or the people working on it need to know right away. So what if you could immediately know if your upstream change works in Fedora? What if your new upstream release automatically landed in Rawhide? What if we had something like this, just a mock-up, and here, pull request happens, propose change, and a Fedora packaging service comes along, similar to Travis, similar to CircleCI, Semaphore, and so on, and says, we packaged this, and here you can try it out, but it doesn't work. Or we packaged this, and it will land in Rawhide when this pull request is merged. What if we could do that? What would we need to make this happen? Samash, what would we need to make this happen? Okay, let's go through the list. So, first of all, it's not an easy task, right, as you can imagine. So, first of all, we need to package the upstream software, right? So, in Fedora, for example, we need spec files. Then we need tests, like, okay, we packaged it, now we need to verify that the software works. So, we need tests. Okay, what's next? We have these two. It's pretty nice, but if we don't use this, if we don't use the spec file, we don't run the tests, and we just, like, blindly put it into the distribution, we have no idea whether it works. So, we need to build a gate. We need to make sure that if the tests are failing, we don't put that content into our distribution, and we keep going on until all is green. And finally, it would be very nice if all of this was done automatically. So, I, for example, as a package maintainer, wouldn't need to go and fetch those star balls and edit these lines in spec files, and then type build and wait, like, 30 minutes, and then it failed, and now I need to do it again. I would love to have packaging service which would dot all of this for me, and all I would really need to do was just, yeah, I approve this change. Do it. Let's talk about all these points a little bit more. So, spec files, wouldn't be nice if we had spec files upstream. Yeah, I can see that this is, like, a very controversial team because some of the upstream projects don't even care about spec files. They don't understand them. They, or maybe they understand them, or maybe they think they understand them, and then you try to consume them downstream and realize that they are trying to support, like, five different distributions, and the spec file is horrible and unusable. So maybe spec files upstream is not the best solution, but somewhere it can work, somewhere it doesn't. So there's also another way how to solve this.  So in an input, you gave the name of the upstream project, as an output, you get the spec file. So we could use such mechanism that, for example, there is a new package on PyPI, and I use the PIP2RPM tool, and I would get a spec file, and I can use it right away and build a package in Fedora. Obviously, the problem is changelog, because you need to populate it, and if the changelog doesn't make sense, if it's, like, 1,000 lines of commit messages, that's not useful, right? So we need to, like, figure it out how to do it. The other thing is release number in, like, name version release. The release number is specific to build system, and, like, build system cares about it. So why should we, as package maintainers, should, like, treat release numbers? Like, it should be automatically populated by the build system. Okay. Tests. So upstream projects have tests, right? So we can easily run them and see if the software works in our environment. Then we need to have distribution tests, or we already have them, as Adam Williamson spoke in his talk. So we just run all these tests, and when they pass, we are pretty sure that the software works in Fedora Ohite, or in the distribution of our choice. But the thing is that we need to use those which are coming with the change. So if there is a new upstream release, we should use those tests which are coming from that release. And finally, every project runs or invokes their tests on their own. So we need, like, a standard way to invoke it. So, for example, we would have a definition that you have to do, make tests, and, like, everything will run. Like, that would be the, like, API. So we need such standard way. So let's look at the diagram how this, like, how this would work. So the whole nice green box is our upstream project. We have a bunch of different branches for our, for releases of our software. And you would have automation to bring it automatically to Fedora this gate or to, like, different federal releases. So in this case, the upstream project is all cool. And put the stack file in the test wrapper, the standard way to invoke the tests in their branches and part of their development. Many projects do this. We know of many that we maintain that do this. This is not, this is not fictional. But, and you can see certain branches on the Fedora side tracking that automatically without any intermediate party. There's, there's the automation would need to take into account who made the change, whether they did a GPG signature on a certain tag, or whether a certain identity pushed into the Git forge. And then it could land in Fedora in a different, in these branches. Okay, thank you. What if the upstream project doesn't care about spec files and doesn't want to have spec files in their repository? Then we can create a new Git branch, like in GitHub or GitLab or Pegger or somewhere else, and get all the upstream get all the upstream code stuff, all our downstream changes which is spec file tests, test wrappers, and even additional commits which are fixes from the master branch, and you would have such branch and use this branch to track like the upstream release and use it in downstream. And it would be just like a, like similar single branch and we could use it to to populate multiple branches. So the benefit is, like, for example, there's a new upstream release, and you need to populate three different branches in Fedora. Like in this way, you would only set it in one and you would benefit in all three. All right. And this really is using Git in the way that God intended. Well, Linus intended, like the same thing. You have a branch, you have another branch, have some different stuff on this branch, you may push this to a different repo and again, what upstream says, and essentially using the tools, including GitLab, GitHub, the standard workflows that people are used to using in the way that they were designed. Okay, so the other thing we need to make all of this happen is gating of row height. So right now, row height is not gated. So whenever there's a new upstream release, it lands in row height, and that's it. It's very, like, very easy to break row height if your upstream release, like, changes something. So we need to build that gate and use it. So together, we are trying, like, we will do it with Fedora engineering. So we already started the discussions and hopefully it will be done sooner or later. And with the gating, we have increased stability because only the proven tested content will land in row height. Like, at start, we can't, like, enable it on all. We'll probably start with some core packages, some important packages, and then we start on board more and more. And important thing is that if you are owner of a package, and for example, some other package brings your package, like your dependency, you can contribute test to that package and say, okay, so please include also my test suite when you are updating your package. And whenever my test suite breaks, it means that you probably introduced a breaking change on there sent some issue, and we can work on it together. But I don't want to find out it after, like, it's already landed row height, and it's already broken, and there are bug reports coming, and there's fire on the roof, and I need to, like, do it very quickly. Let's do it where we are still working on the code. So, and finally, we want the automated packaging service. So we call it packet, like, that's the name of the project of the team. And it will be a set of tools, we are just starting. It will be a set of tools, you can easily run it on your laptop and do all the automation, or we will provide it as a service, so we will run it for you, and you can just enable it for your project, and use it, and all your packages will be updated. So the hardest thing about the project was the name, we were trying to figure it out for, like, three months, but finally it's it. So one of the things you would love to explore is opening full requests for new upstream releases, so when there's a new upstream release, the tool or the service would create a pull request with all the changes, and you as a maintainer would just review the changes and say, yeah, okay, it looks good, all the tests are passing, let's just ship it, or no, it's broken, I need to fix it, and you just fix it. At the same time, Fedora engineering is one of their services, it's trying to do the same thing, so in the end, it doesn't, like, it's an implementation detail who actually implements it, whether it's us or Fedora engineering, but we just need the feature. We also want to bring the feedback from downstream back to upstream, so whenever there is a new upstream release, and it breaks Fedora, we can easily create issue on their tracker, or send them an email and say, your new upstream release doesn't work, maybe it concerns you, maybe it doesn't, and we won't do it ever again. And it didn't land? Yeah, absolutely. Right. It didn't land? Didn't land it right. Tell them here are the logs, please try to figure it out, and maybe in the next release, it will work. Okay, so what are the benefits? When you are using this workflow, when you are using GitHub to develop your packages, you can use the tools you know. For example, right now, it's very hard to contribute to Fedora, you need to become the member, you need to use the tooling, and if you are using GitHub for that, when you just clone the repo, make the changes, push and create upstream pull requests, it's very easy. So we can use the tools, we can use the tools we know and keep using them. Everyone can contribute, we can benefit from the modern techniques like linters or CI, or I don't know what else. And finally, I can even go and fork some package, like systemd or kernel, make some changes, and then push them and see if it works in Fedora or maybe even real. So we are also planning when someone does such fork, and like changes something, we're planning to create a repository with the updated packages, and you can install it on your laptop and use it right away. And with the changes you just made. So the title of the talk is auto-maintain, and that might be, it's actually even confusing still for me, like what does it mean to auto-maintain. The thing is that you as a package maintainer or upstream developer, you are still responsible for the content, and it's still your baby, we don't want to mess with your baby, we just want to keep the disk it up to date. So whenever you do some changes upstream or in the source git repository, we just take the changes and move them downstream and tell you the results, how it goes.  Yeah, it's your baby, we just want to change the diapers for you. We need t-shirts. So as I said, this is not an easy task, this is not an easy change, there are still many things we need to address. So for example, this provide changes in Fedora when we need to change 3,000 spec files. So could this system be used for such a thing? We don't know, maybe yes, maybe no. As Stef said, like for some people, packaging is not exciting, but for some people it is. What do we do with such thing? We don't want to take packaging away from people who love it, so maybe they don't want to use such system. And finally, this also means that we will like close the gap between upstream and downstream and again like this might be disturbing for some upstream communities. So we need to work and figure out how to do this. So we are almost running out of time. Yeah, well let's wrap up then. So do we want to go to Q&A? Well let's just say, I think here's what we want to, where we want to get to. Fedora should be the de facto place to land upstream work. It should just happen as a side effect of doing the work. If you have set everything up, if you are the right person whose identity Fedora has signed off on, it should just land. And it should be packaged as a part of complete Linux. We should provide the feedback that's necessary downstream and the automation that's necessary to accomplish this. So yes, let's go to questions. Okay, so how can you help? Give us feedback, please give us use cases or become an early adopter or give us questions right now. Yes, please. So the question is, which parts of this exists today, if any, and whether it's pie in the sky? I would say that 90% of the ingredients exist. Rahid gating is one of the key things that doesn't exist yet, and we're basically tying them together. Adam wants to answer this? Another question. Okay, so we're not saying invent all the tools, tying together in a workflow that has this effect on upstream. So that's the job of the team to work together with the people who own these tools, to bring them together and do that. So yes and no. Dominic has a... I just want to point out it's not completely pie in the sky because we have packages that do that, so it's not completely dragged up. Yeah, by the way, like a bunch of the examples I had, like cockpit, lands, automated releases from upstream into Fedora, and of course into Debian as well, but all of these places automatically every two weeks without touching the Fedora tooling, just signing a tag in Git. Obviously, if we want, if people come and want to join in on the effort, work together on it, that's great. So it's obviously a harder problem than the ones where it's trivial to run in any environment, but I know that Debian has solutions for this with auto package tests. They do. They extract sources, sometimes even build it and then run the tests inside of their environment, or there's many solutions to this that we can try. In general though, if we cover the ones that are easy in Fedora, the thousands of packages that do work and leave those exceptions to then do the hard work of getting them on boarded later, we'll prove the idea before we then try and solve every really tough problem. Any other question? How much time do we have? One more? Three minutes. We've got time. Dennis, that's definitely a good discussion point. So the question is, can we make some of this work for new packages, like the new package workflow easier? And that has been brought up and I think it's plausible. And I think it's worth discussing. I don't think we have an answer there, but we definitely, in the last couple of days, discussed this. I think we haven't touched on it much, so we can definitely put it on the roadmap and start thinking about it, how to do it. That's a good question. So how do we envision it working with upstream maintainers taking care of more Fedora packaging or Fedora maintainers contributing packaging work upstream? Also other, right. So how do we, in general, I think all two are all three, really. First one is, in many cases, if you can contribute upstream and they're open to the idea of having a spec file there and an invocation for the tests and so on in a way that works, then yes, it's always good to contribute to the community directly. And especially for rawhide, we want that to be tight. But if it doesn't work, then we have the option of branching upstream with Git and doing the work there. And again, focusing the human tasks, the creative tasks of packaging, the crafting of the spec file, just so and all of that from the packageer and letting the mundane tasks be done automatically. That happens and land in rawhide. In addition, after a branch happens in rawhide, from rawhide to a release branch of Fedora, there's a lot of good packaging work that needs to be done there. And although perhaps the same tooling, like you can run these on your laptop and so, are interesting to use there, it's not really the focus of this effort. And so there's tons of packaging work to be done there to make sure that security fixes are applied appropriately, the right decisions are made as far as rebases, back ports and so on. And there's tons of activity for a distribution to do there. In fact, it's the main interesting part, I would say, of the distribution. Both the work for crafting, how the distribution comes together, and we try to hope that happens in SourceKit, and then making sure that's well maintained. Works continues to work well after branching. We're out of time. Thank you for coming.


Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Lowy Institute. It is my great pleasure to introduce his excellency, Mr. Petro Poroshenko, the president of Ukraine, to speak about the challenges facing his nation. This is the president's second visit to Australia. He was very impressed the first time he came, and I believe in talking to him, he's really enjoyed this second visit as well. Just to give you a little bit of background on the president, he has extensive experience in politics, banking, and economics. He was the minister of foreign affairs for a period and also the minister for economic development and trade. Significantly, he was head of the National Bank Council for five years in the not so distant past. He was elected president of Ukraine on the 25th of May of this year. I think, as you all know, 2014 has been a most demanding year and a most difficult year for the president and the people of Ukraine. Probably the most difficult in its 23 years of independence since the Cold War. There's been extensive political turmoil at the beginning of the year. You can still see the scars of that in Kiev, certainly when I was there. There was the annexation of Crimea by Russia in March and continuing destabilization and intervention in the east of the nation of Ukraine. That is manifested in a very bloody conventional war in the provinces of Luhansk and Donetsk. And then, very sadly, in July, we had the shooting down of MH17 and the subsequent recovery operation and a number of initiatives to get the investigation going to determine who was responsible for this outrage. Of course, since then, there's been a tentative ceasefire and, of course, associated with all of this, very challenging economic circumstances for the president and his government. Now, through all of this, the president has shown a very strong and inspirational leadership to his people. He's won great respect around the world, particularly in Europe. And I think we're very fortunate to have him here today to speak to all of us. So, president, a very warm welcome to the Lowy Institute and I invite you to address the audience. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much indeed for the warm welcome. Dear Mr. Michael Fulilov, thank you for the invitation and to have a possibility to communicate with such a distinguished audience, not only in this hall. As far as I understand, we have a live on the ABC channel. And let me start with thanking all of you here in this audience and outside of it for your interest. This is crucially important for Ukraine to have an interest in the world, to the events and to the situation which happened in Ukraine. We live in the world which cannot be measured only in terms of the geographic distance. Yes, that's true. The Australia is thousands and thousands kilometers far away from Ukraine. But the world is actually very small indeed with the many factor bringing different nation much closer to each other. Economy, education, culture, common rules, common values. All these factors are present in the relation between Ukraine and Australia. Actually being here for more than 48 hours, I feel myself among the friends. This is very important to have such a feeling. We share the common values and we demonstrate the unique unity and unique solidarity. And I wanna thank all of you for the solidarity of Ukraine. Australian people, Australian government, prime minister, leader of the nation. This is vitally important for us to have this solidarity. However, there is some more aspect that come to forefront right now. Solidarity, compassion, and the universal drive for freedom. Ukraine now is under attack. Ukraine being punishing for choosing freedom, democracy. And actually what we have now in Ukraine, this is not just the war for our independence, not the war for our sovereignty, not just the war for our territorial integrity. Thank you. This is the war for freedom. Global freedom. This is the war for democracy. Global democracy. And this is the war for security, global security. The world is not anymore existing in a condition of cold war or post-cold war. This is completely different situation. And I think that the tragic events which happened in July in Ukrainian sky, the terroristic attack against MH17, demonstrating how close and how small is the world. And among the nation who suffered the most from this terroristic attack was Australia. And 38 innocent Australian people, innocent victim who suffered in this attack. And demonstrating that this, from the first glance, regional conflict touched every people on the earth. From the very first second of this terroristic attack, we, Ukrainian people, and me as the Ukrainian president, was together with Australia. Tony Abbott, as a prime minister, was among the first to whom I call and propose open independent investigation. And any assistant we can present to the Australian military, to the Australian police, to the Australian investigator. And I wanna thank the Angus Houston for the great job who do for making investigation as much transparent and as much effective as possible. Together with 100 Australian military and police being in a very next hours and days in Ukraine with a very high level of risk for their lives, try to be on the crash site under the fire of the terrorists trying to bring the truth about this terroristic attack and tragedy to the whole world. Thank you, Angus for that. But beforehand was the revolution. Revolution of dignity. Exactly one year ago, more than one million people were on the street of Kiev. I never ever in my life see such a well self-organized people. When the previous authority take off from the street, the police, pretending that it would be a clashes, send the provocateur, but one million people, don't break one window. Don't touch one car. Don't break one flower. They go on the street of Ukraine, demanding freedom, demanding democracy, demanding European democratic values. That was just after the previous government make a decision not to go and not to sign the association agreement with the European Union. The position which was supported by more than 70% of the Ukrainians. And Ukrainian people simply do not accept this choice. They appeared on the street with the form of the peaceful process. The most peaceful process, again I ever seen in my life. And within 11 days, the special riot police make a first attempt to storm peaceful people on the street of Kiev. And Ukraine maybe pay the highest price in their history. More than 100 people, the heavenly hundred gives their lives to change the country. And Ukrainian people win. We have a new country and we have a new people. And within the 23 years of our history, Ukrainian people who fighting for democracy and fighting for freedom, now have a unique chance for the transformation to build up the new society. Yes, the year 2014 make Ukraine life changing moment. It was loaded with a passion, pain and dream of the human spirit. It started with a shock of the shooting at the Maidan. And in its last throb, the corrupt government of Yanukovych tried to use violence to scare the people. But scared it got, the more Ukrainians came to the Maidan. I remember the night of the 11th of December 2013, when we have a 5,000 people on the Maidan when storm will start. That was started when we have in Kiev the high representative of European Union, Catherine Ashton for the foreign policy and deputy sector of state, Victoria Nuland from the United States. And when storm has began, it was an appeal to the people, please come and defend the revolution of dignity. There is no public transport by the authorities they were switched off. It's not possible to use the taxi because 12 kilometers they were stopped by the police. It was minus 20 temperature. And during the night, by walk, people of all ages come to Maidan. And at 5 a.m., when I saw more than 40,000 people on the Maidan, understanding that there is no more important thing in their life, like to come and defend democracy, I start to believe that in any circumstances we will have a victory with these people, very responsible, very pro-democratic, very European.  And of course we, for these 23 years, the Ukraine-Australian relationship was not so close. But immediately after, our revolution of dignity and our common pain during the tragedy of the MH17 make our nation, who are divided by their, it seems to me, 13,000 kilometers. Much closer and we become a nation who share the common values. And again, I wanna thanks all Australia for the unity and for the solidarity you demonstrate immediately after. And then we have another test, very important test, which Ukrainian state should pass, the aggression of Russia. First, it was annexing of Crimea. They say that it was a quiet aggression or quiet annexing. It was a so-called polite, green man. From the very beginning this was rejected that this is not a Russian regular troops. Then it was recognized. And they say that nobody was killed during this aggression. This is not true. There was a, for example, Crimean Tatar Rishat Akhmetov, who went on the one-man rally, went missing. And after 12 days was found tortured and dead from the God-short wound, right in his eye. There is an internationally acclaimed Ukrainian filmmaker, Olexin Sov, who was arrested and remained in custody in Moscow under made-up charges. And there were 19 Crimean Tatars, mostly young activists, who either went missing or were killed of the last couple of months. There are many, many other Ukrainian activists getting terrorized on the daily basis in Crimea.  And exactly 20 years ago, in December 1994, voluntarily give up this third nuclear arsenal launching the non-preferential movement. Having the guarantee from the five biggest nuclear states, United States, United Kingdom, France, China, and Russia.  And now one of the country guarantee is an aggressor against us. And 20 years afterward, Russia broke the pact and attacked us without any explanation. Once things were sorted out in Crimea, they moved further to Donbass. Ukraine has always been a tolerant nation and a friendly place to all the religions and denomination. The most shocking is the terror on Ukraine's religion minority instilled on the occupied territory by the terrorists. Let me give you a couple of example. In early June, group of the terrorists was waiting in front of one of the prayer houses in the occupied Slaviansk. They waited till their faithful came out. They detained four of them, took them in jail, severely tortured and killed. Five days later, these four young men got buried in the collective grave. There is no place, that was an explanation, there is no place of American sects on the Russian land, said the terrorist while convoying the victim out of the church. Greek Catholic revended, Tihon Kulibyaka was detained on July the 4th and had spent two months in captivity. His torment tried to make him convert to Moscow Orthodoxy to no avail. Unthinkable but true, in the middle of the 21st century in Europe, people get terrorized, tortured and killed simply for being different and being patriot. It's not just a rejection of the value today's Europe is based upon. It's attempt to build alternative, Europe based on alternative value. And Ukraine can be just a start. The terrorists justify their action by the glory pictures of civilian casualties from Donbass city. Propaganda describe them as a punitive action on Ukraine's part as a desire to kill them all. I have only one thing to say, shame on you.  It's the same way how to treat the lives of the all innocent victim of the age 17. It was absolutely unacceptable how the victim body were treated immediately. After the catastrophe. This is the way how describe what is the terrorist are. Ukraine would be last one interested on this. Ukraine be last one given such order. And what happened to civilian and Donetsk and Lugansk is yet another part of the unthinkable tragedy brought upon Ukraine by the polite murderers operated by Russians. Once the violence stop, Ukraine would be open, engaged and interested through the investigation of each particular case. Strangely, all the decision that would make possible and had based international control over the territory and borders blocked by Russia on international borders like UN and OEC. And it is vitally important for us to have a support of the whole world. And that was a great moment when 100 world nation vote in support of Ukraine on UN General Assembly. And immediately after the catastrophe of the age 17, that was very important for us to have a security council of United Nations decision supporting Ukraine and give us an opportunity to demonstrate the world unity and world solidarity of Ukraine. I have a meeting on the Munich and the beginning of year 2014. At that time, no European nation can imagine that we can demonstrate such a unity of the European Union for the sanction against Russia and supporting Ukraine. After three months after the aggression, after five months after age 17, Europe start to learn to speak one single voice. G7 countries, including Canada, including Japan, starting to speak single voice. Cannot mention, cannot not mention the Brisbane G20 where the whole world voice also was very loud in supporting Ukraine in their fighting for the global security and global democracy. Sending troops to the neighboring countries and taking away their territory is absolutely not the idea living in harmony. Sadly, many in Russia prefer to justify their aggression with the scary tales about the fascist Ukraine. I understand that the living in this delusion is more comfortable than simply facing the truth, especially when the truth is so horrible. The truth that Russian citizen killing my Ukrainian citizen just for nothing without any explanation. Because most of the people fighting and defending Ukrainian sovereignty is Russian speaking. And they don't have any... Russians don't have any reason to be there. The truth is that Russia make a mistake of a historic proportion. Ladies and gentlemen, Ukraine, Russia and the whole world pay a price that is too high fighting a war that is absolutely unnatural. So let's stop it. Let's get Russian troops out of Ukraine. Let's close Russian-Ukrainian border. And yesterday I told it in Melbourne. Within two, three weeks, if we have... get out Russian troops and close the border, it would be law, order, stability in Ukraine. We don't have internal conflict at all. We have a humanitarian catastrophe where people in Donetsk and Lugansk not receiving any money, not having any social benefits or pension, have significant difficulties to reach the food and medicine should survive under this condition. And we should stop this humanitarian catastrophe. And I think that the... restoring all law and order and restore the Ukrainian international-recognized border is a very important part of the job. What is the basis? My peace plan. Immediately when I become a president, I propose to the world a peace plan. And based on that, we signed up on the 5th of September the Minsk Plan and Minsk memorandum. By the way, it was signed by Russia. Very simple steps. Point number one, ceasefire. Point number two, withdrawal all the foreign troops outside of my territory. Point number three, immediate release all the hostages. Now more than 600 hostages, they keep them in the absolutely disastrous condition. Point number four, political dialogue. The election, local election, which should be done under Ukrainian legislation, internationally recognized with the international observers. And we are ready to have any form of communication with the leaders who would be elected by the people of Donbass and Donetsk and Lugansk. But that would be a complete disaster for this terrorist. They know that. They understand that. And that's why they do not accept even the Minsk Plan, Minsk Protocol and Minsk memorandum, which was already signed by them. Ladies and gentlemen, Australia is blossoming. Wonderful place. And I have another reason to be sure. Looking at the world from here, one doesn't get a feeling that something goes wrong. But it does. And the international relations are in turmoil and in Ukraine. We have a very big conflict. Ukraine is burning. And Europe is dangerously close to slipping back to the Cold War reality. This crisis, artificial as it is, won't just go away. It needs to be tackled. And it will put a burden on every nation who take freedom seriously. From all of my heart, I want to thank Australia for the support. I thank you, all of you, for feeling our pain. Please, be with us further on. Together, the whole world can bring peace and stability, not only in Ukraine. This is not a question of Ukrainian original security. This is a question of global security. Because this aggression demonstrates the uneffectiveness of the post-war security system based on the Security Council of the United Nations. We should propose to the world another idea who keeps the world stable. I think together, we can develop and propose it to the world. Thank you. And to my Ukrainian colleague, Slava Ukraine. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Michael Fully Love I'm the Executive Director of the Lowy Institute. I want to start by thanking President Poroshenko for doing us the honour of visiting and supply street and making such interesting and important remarks. And I also want to take the opportunity to thank Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, who in addition to being the Prime Minister's point man on most difficult Australian foreign policy topics, is a member of the Lowy Institute Board and we're very proud to have him and he was a very appropriate person to welcome and to introduce the President. Ladies and gentlemen, we have about 20 or 25 minutes now. I'm going to start by asking the President a number of questions and then I'm going to go to the audience for a few questions. So please think of questions you'd like to ask the President. Make sure they're questions, please, not statements. Let me begin, Mr President, where you finished. You said this is not just about Ukraine, this is a war for global security. And as many in this audience know, a couple of weeks ago, Chancellor Merkel of Germany gave the annual Lowy Lecture at the Lowy Institute and she made some very forward-leaning remarks on Mr Putin and Russia. She said that Moscow is displaying old thinking in terms of spheres of influence in which international law is trampled upon and she said this must not be allowed to prevail and those comments were reported across the globe in Spiegel and the Journal and the New York Times and the Economist and elsewhere. Can I draw you out on Chancellor Merkel's comments and can I ask you, does it signify in your mind a shift in the tone of the way the international community is considering this conflict? Thank you very much indeed. First of all, I want to thank the Chancellor Merkel for such a statement and for her very important role in providing the European unity with Ukraine. I think that the... I can sign by every word of Chancellor Merkel and I think that the level of danger, if you do not stop this very dangerous development of situation for the Europe because conflict is in the heart of Europe in the 21st century, the situation would be completely unpredictable. I have an opportunity because of the invitation of the all European leaders to have a floor on the European Union Council meeting with all 28 European leaders. Two times. That was right before the very important decision of the European Union Council for introducing the sanction. Now we see the evidence, the sanction is working and I have one positive news, by the way. Today is the first 24 hours for seven months when we don't have... when we have a real ceasefire in Ukraine. You simply can imagine how important it for me. This is the first night when I don't have neither lost nor wounded Ukrainian soldier when we don't have any lost or wounded civilian. Today in Canberra, I was in your war memorial with more than 100,000 Australian giving their lives for their freedom and democracy. Can you imagine that only in this conflict we lost more than 1,200 soldiers only for the last half a year, 1,000 civilian and soldiers missed and about 2,000 civilian were killed. I hate the idea that Ukraine continued to pay this price and that's why because of our coordinated action the whole world is coordinated. Cross my fingers if we are in a position to stop the war and have a real ceasefire that is a real great step for peace and stability in Ukraine. This is only 24 hours. Everything is so fragile but I pray that we should continue this process and if we will be united we will win, no doubt. Not win by military means but we will launch the political dialogue, peace brings stability to my nation, to the continent and to the whole world. Can I ask you, Mr President, last week President Putin in his speech to the Federal Assembly compared Crimea to Russia's Jerusalem and he said it's as sacred to Russia as the Temple Mount or Haramal Sharif is to Jews and Muslims. Can I draw you out on that claim and can I ask you do you believe that Crimea will one day return to Ukraine? I have no doubt on that. Crimea is Ukrainian and how we can win our battle for Crimea? To win the battle, we should win the battle for the Crimean brands. If people start to understand that better to be Ukrainian because Ukraine is a democratic country because we have a freedom in Ukraine. Ukraine has a perspective to be the member of the European Union that every single person is proud to be free and living in a democratic society. If we transform the country and we have zero tolerance to corruption, if we have a rule of law, it would be absolute, I'm absolutely sure that we win a battle for the Crimea. People in Crimea has a real big problem. There is no tourists, no jobs, difficulties with food and products, prices are double and people understand that there is no benefits. What now are feeding the Crimean? The conflict on the east of Ukraine, the conflict in Donetsk, because they say if we do not occupy you, you will have the same situation like in Donetsk but immediately when we have peace and stability in Donetsk like it's happened when we release the occupied territory because while I'm the president we decrease by two-thirds the square kilometers of the occupied territory and immediately on the released territory we have a pension, school, kindergarten, hospital, normal life is returned and people start to understand what for. What these military people are doing on my street, why they are killing the people, why they are simply bandit and terrorist and it is a significant transformation which happened in Donetsk and Lugansk and I don't have any doubts that it happened in Crimea. It is not interesting actually for me how anybody tried to explain the aggression or annexing. This is a brutal violation of the international law and it should be responsibility for this violation. That's it. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to give some in the audience an opportunity to ask questions. I first saw this gentleman and that lady. A microphone will come to you. Can I ask you to first of all state any affiliation you might have and then can I ask you to ask your question quite briefly so that we can get as many questions in. Thank you, sir. Thanks, Matt Siegel from the Reuters news agency. Mr. President, you said that it's vitally important to have the support of the whole world for Ukraine but India has been very forthright and blocking sanctions, standing against sanctions. And yesterday Sergei Aksyanov, the self-described Prime Minister of Crimea was with President Putin in India. Will this have an impact on Ukraine's relations with India? This is not an easy job to keep the world together. Santa, if you want, this is the difference between money and values. And this is very simple to understand. The closer you to the civilization nation, the values is much more important for you than money. Or you can be bought by money, contract and everything. But I'm an optimist. And the reason for this optimist is the decision of the United Nations, General Assembly, our coordination in the multinational institution, starting from the OEC, and the Indian position doesn't help and doesn't save Mr. Aksyanov. He is a criminal, very simple. He has a criminal background and no doubt he has a criminal future. This lady was next. Yes, the lady is standing up. Hi, I believe, I'm sorry, Philippa Nicole Barr. I'm with Korea Dela Sera in Italy. I believe that energy has been on the agenda in your talks with Tony Abbott and in particular the importation of coal and uranium. In the wake of MH17 and even the Chernobyl accident many years ago, can you ensure or guarantee the security of any imported uranium and how can you ensure that it will not become a target in any further aggression? Thank you for the question. Look, first of all, we have our own uranium. And we have a state of art technology to keep it safe. This is just a diversification of the supply of the energy sources. Because of the shortage of the Russian gas and Russian coal, the part of the nuclear electric energy in our balance is more than 60% now. And the level of the security on the nuclear station is the highest, which is confirmed by Magater. And this is not just... We are not a nuclear nation and we wanted to be a nuclear nation. This is not true. We are the nation who can produce all the equipment for the nuclear station and who provide there for the years and years the highest level of nuclear security, especially improved after the Soviet Union when the catastrophe of Chernobyl takes place. And we're talking about the diversification of the energy supply, just to make it lower dependence on Russia, which is very easy understandable in this situation. No matter if you're talking about the uranium or coal. And this is just the beginning of negotiation. There is no any contract, but we want to be very pleased to the Australian government to give us this opportunity and to help us. We are one of the top player on the energy market. And having him together with us is extremely important for us, just to have this opportunity as a other source of the energy. So please don't worry about nuclear security. We are a very responsible nation. Please don't worry about the qualification of our personnel and security on nuclear station. We are the top priority. And I'm absolutely sure that the current level of the bilateral economic relation between Ukraine and Australia is absolutely not sufficient to the level of the political relation between our countries. And that's why we find out the opportunity how to expand our agricultural cooperation, logistical cooperation, energy cooperation, and make it further political cooperation because on the 11th of January the new appointed Australian ambassador come to Kiev. And I want to thank the Australian government to open the Australian embassy. This is a very symbolic step. And we agreed that in the first quarter of the year 2015 the visit of the Australian Prime Minister take place in Ukraine. That would be also very symbolic. And we try to work hard and to prepare a package of documents to be signed during this visit. Thank you. Alexander, I saw this journalist here standing up. Yes. Aksana Kriss, Ukrainian Channel 1 Plus 1. Mr. President, could you please comment on the cases which were lodged by Ukraine in the International Court of Justice and the European Court of Human Rights? Those cases are regarding the situation in Crimea, in Eastern Ukraine, and about kids which were stolen, just kidnapped from Ukrainian orphanages. And the second thing, could you please comment also on the situation, on the relations between Russia and Ukraine regarding gas, what it is going there now? Thank you. Thank you. For the first question, Ukraine will use any opportunity to defend their interests, including possibility to defend it in the International Courts Institution, including the International Court of Justice, including the other International Institution after the situation in Crimea and after the situation in Donetsk and Lugansk. No doubt. And the new government, because look, I want to just attract your attention how responsible is Ukrainian. Immediately after the Revolution of Dignity, we not just have a presidential election, which was worldwide recognized as the most free and fair in our history. Immediately, when I was elected to the president, I declare the new parliamentary election, which was not an easy decision, by the way, because during the war, to have a parliamentary election is a dangerous thing. But democracy is the top priority. And Ukraine demonstrates a unique responsibility. Eighty percent of the political parties and members of parliament are strongly for the European integration of Ukraine. And first time in our modern 100 parliamentary history, we don't have the communists in our parliament.  This is not just the reform, because reform is widely used in the world. We need to demonstrate the transformation of my country. Huge transformation, first time in our history. And I am absolutely sure that our new government, where we have a unique experience, we invite in the government our Ukrainians from abroad. Ukrainians who was born in Chicago and now work as a minister of finance in our government. Lithuania, who lived 10 years in Ukraine, but before in Sweden, I give them the citizenship, who will work as a minister of economic development and trade. Who will... Who are the author of the Georgian medical reform and have an opportunity now to implement his knowledge in Ukraine? Why don't you invite some Ukrainian Australian? You are welcome. Well, there are some Ukrainian Australians here today, so perhaps they can apply with you later, Mr. President. Next question here, please. I'll just wait for the microphone, if you would. Paige Megle, AFUO. Mr. President. Sorry about that. About the gas dispute and gas deal. You probably know that I was one of the leaders who support the gas deal between Russia and Ukraine, which was signed in Brussels and which regulate and give it the opportunity to buy up the gas from Russia during this winter. Why we do that? Because we are a responsible nation and we promise to provide energy security for Europe. And this gas deal give us this opportunity. But I am absolutely sure that the question for the energy diversification with a coal issue, it is the same important in a gas issue. And that's why we work hard today with our European partners to buy more European gas and to make energy security situation in Ukraine and in Europe much more security, being a member of the Energy Community Treaty and to transform the gas factor from the only political stick for some nation to the normal economic market situation. I think that would be positive for Ukraine. That would be positive for Europe. And at the end of the day, I have no doubt that would be positive for Russia. Yes, sir. Mr. President, earlier today in the United States, the Senate passed a resolution which provides a legislative framework for the provision of military and other forms of support for Ukraine. Could you comment on the passage of that resolution in specific and in general on Ukraine's position with regard to the provision of military support, be it lethal or non-lethal? First of all, we welcome this resolution on the resolution of Senate. They will register the project of resolution during my presence in Washington. That we welcome the status for a major non-NATO ally. And just for your information, we do not talk and immediately demand the lethal weapons from any country in the world. Ukraine has a state of our technology allow us to produce our own lethal weapons. We need the military technical for cooperation to defend ourselves, not to make an offensive operation. Yes, we need the state of our technology in the communication, into counter-battery, in the reconnaissance and intelligence, but just to make more effective our defense system. And I think that this way of the cooperation with the United States, European countries, Canada, Australia, that would be effective. That would be a synergy to keep world more secure. Mr. President, I'm going to ask you the last question. I know you have to leave for another event. I'm going to ask you about Mr. Putin. You've been very polite about Mr. Putin so far. You haven't risen to any of the baits that I've offered to you. President Bush famously said that he looked into President Putin's eyes and saw into his soul. Senator McCain said I looked into his eyes and saw three letters K, G and B. Prime Minister Abbott was more focused on his shirt front. I think it's fair to say than on his face. You've dealt with Mr. Putin a lot. You speak with him. You've been active in Ukrainian politics for very long. What sort of a person do you find him? Do you detect any goodwill from him in terms of ending this awful conflict between Ukraine and Russia? Thank you for giving me this opportunity to be polite. If I say that I support all the position starting from Chancellor Merkel and finishing with the Prime Minister Tony Abbott, I just share their views. This is point number one. Point number two. I have my personal feeling, if you allow me, to be just a normal person, not the responsible president. I think that the Russian president has changed significantly from those he was 10 years ago. Third, I think that the Ukrainian matter for him is very emotional. And fourth, I'm absolutely sure that we will bring peace. We will have a territorial integrity. I avoid the term we will win war, but I can use the term we will win peace, no doubt. Ladies and gentlemen, the president has a career in diplomacy in front of him if he ever leaves politics. Ladies and gentlemen, I think it's fair to say, as the president said, that a year ago the relationship between Australia and Ukraine was pretty thin, but international politics changes very quickly and the despicable act, the downing of MH17, which of course carried 38 of our fellow countrymen and countrywomen on it, along with many other civilians, has had one silver lining and that is it has brought our countries together and it's created the kind of solidarity that the president spoke of. Today we've heard another important speech by a world leader to the Lowy Institute. It's becoming a bit of a habit. We thank you President Poroshenko very warmly for visiting us at Blyth Street and for giving such a serious important speech and also for taking our questions. Please join me in thanking the president. Thank you. And I want to use this opportunity to make many thanks to the Lowy Institute for this opportunity to have an open and easy communication with the such a distinguished audience. I want to thank to Michael Fulilov, I think for the excellent moderation of the audience and I want to thank all of you because again this is a unique feeling to be among the friends and I think that when all the Australians will have the same feeling visiting Ukraine that would be very important for us. What is my role? I wanted to remove all the barrier between the Australian and Ukraine. I invite you to visit Ukraine no matter with the business purposes, as a tourist or as a politician. We are very close nation and I promise you you will fall in love with Ukraine. Thank you. Thank you very much. Just one second. Ladies and gentlemen let me also thank you for visiting us at Blyth Street today. This is the last event in the Lowy Institute's event series for the year. Please join us early in the new year when we kick off with a panel discussion on events the coming year of 2015 and hopefully that year will bring peace and justice to your part of the world Mr. President rather than more conflict. Ladies and gentlemen thank you again. Thank you.


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Welcome back to the channel. Today we're gonna talk about four new books that I read, part of my reading vlog series for the winter season, and of course give you my first impressions on them because most of them happen to be volume ones, so I don't know how the story ends for them. But regardless, let's get started. The first book that we're gonna talk about here is A Cat from Our World and the Forgotten Witch. This is by Hiro Kashiwamba. This is volume one published by the folks at Seven Seas Entertainment and in a nutshell, this tells the story of this adorable giant cat who gets isekai into another world. However, when he is struck by a truck in the streets, this particular witch from another world happens to summon for a familiar and I guess the two link up and the cat ends up in her world where it's fantasy-based with heroes fighting against the demon lord and stuff like that. She used to be a mage, I guess, or a witch and helped the hero defeat the demon lord. Now she is much older and people have forgotten and they just say that she is the town witch and are really scared of her, thinking the worst of her. But she's actually a very somewhat cranky but sweet old lady at this point and she wants a companion so she does a summoning spell for a familiar beast and the cat happens to show up. Now they don't say anything in this volume to suggest it. I don't know if we see other cats in this series, I assume not and the size difference is explained. Apparently in this world people are tiny compared to our world. I think part of the appeal here for me aside from the art which I'll talk about in a moment is the fact that this is a story about two kindred spirits regardless of it being a cat and a human not knowing that they need each other. Suffering from past trauma in the case of the witch she has been forgotten and at the same time she is misjudged and criticized by the population for something that honestly she's not at fault with, people are going by appearances and believing old tales that she's this evil witch when in fact she ended up saving everybody when she was younger. The part I really enjoyed the most aside from the heartwarming story is the art. I think it is fantastic.  He doesn't really understand her at first because he's used to our human customs so the expressions and body language from the cat are really spot on to a real cat. Character designs are clean nice to look at and well defined. I like this world it's fun the magical stuff while brief looks really good too so I am excited to continue with volume two to see more of the action from the witch's perspective. There are some really cute scenes in this and like I mentioned these two characters have interesting traumas in their lives but the fact that they can get together and form a friendship and a partnership is really cute and wholesome to see so I am enjoying this series and hopefully volume two comes out soon because I really want to keep the story going and see what happens with the two of them. Oh boy the next book that we're gonna talk about is pretty interesting this is came the mirror and other tales unfortunately I cannot show you the stuff inside because Takahashi's representatives and peeps on the other side of the pond they do not like you showing stuff from Takahashi's books and they will strike channels down and stuff if they happen to notice it so I'm not going to risk it I'm just gonna show you some of the colored pages here at the beginning and a couple of still images so this is a short story collection which happens to be one of my favorite things in manga I love short stories for this book we have six tales came the mirror tells the story of these kids that now have a mirror sort of like a curse in the palm of their hands they could die if they don't do a specific mission which is seeing the evil souls that are trapped within individuals that are doing bad deeds and sort of exercising them and taking care of them that becomes their responsibility and if they don't do it it could get them killed but if they accomplish the goal they're safe or something like that it's fun nice mix of horror and action I thought that was pretty cool the ending I thought was just a bit underwhelming just a tad the next story revenge doll tells the story of a very self-centered horrible mangaka and the things he says and does because things don't go his way his series is being cancelled so he takes it out on his staff and he gets a surprise package of a revenge doll that supposedly if you write the names of three people they'll get cursed and the final the third and final strike will be to actually murder somebody so he's contemplating on using it on various people it's a very odd story you're not supposed to root for any of these guys so the result of it was just kind of weird but it was interesting to see a short story set in the manga creation world that was fun the star has a thousand faces tells the story of this popular young actress she commits murder supposedly and is paranoid that her career is going to end even though it was an accident and she's doing everything imaginable to escape and retire she even thinks of ending her life and stuff like that and the result was okay so far these stories have interesting setups and just okay resolutions lovely flower reminded me of a quirky junji ito gross out comic and it tells the story of this young lady who is married to a scientist if i remember correctly and she is getting stalked by this individual with a very peculiar flower that is very stinky to her but works sort of like an aphrodisiac for everybody else and people start getting obsessed with the flower so they want more of it and she thinks that this person is a stalker and again kind of reminded me of an ito story to be honest i thought it was one of the better ones here with cat i think this is my favorite out of the six stories here it tells the story of these two kids that at first hate each other because of an incident when they were young the young kid was climbing a tree and he was frightened of cats the young girl climbs up to show him the cat and he falls from the tree branch and breaks his arm now the kid hates the young girl and a long time passes i believe now they're in middle school or high school one of the two i don't know and they still don't talk to each other unfortunately the young girl without knowing with her old cat places a curse on the young man and his arm is now catlike and a lot of weird stuff happens but this one i thought had a nice ending to it a really quirky funny premise that i think pays off at the end and sticks the landing i really did enjoy this one it reminded me the most of what i like about rumiko takahashi and last but not least my sweet sundae i believe this was released for one of the anniversaries for the shonen sundae magazine and it tells the story here of the two mangaka rumiko takahashi and mitsuru adachi it's them in chibi manga form telling their quirky stories on how they got into the business and how they admire the work that the other writer does as well as talking about the manga industry and all that i thought that was really fascinating kind of quirky for a short story because it's actually pretty long compared to the others because it has a lot of dialogue but it is worth reading if you're a fan of the creators if you're a fan of the manga industry i think this will be to your liking so yeah overall solid list of short stories they don't necessarily stick the landing for me but they're fun nonetheless the art is beautiful on all of them that is for sure one of the big positives for this book and again if you like rumiko takahashi i think this is a book that you need to add for your collection next one on the list is orb on the movements of the earth this is written by woto this won a bunch of awards if i remember correctly and it is a two-in-one omnibus edition trade paperback published by seven seas entertainment now this one is pretty interesting i took a while to figure out how i would go about this because the subject matter for orb is complicated i will tell you in a brief summary of this but you could easily do a full analysis a full video essay on the themes here of orb and still not scratch the surface i think this is a fantastic series this story takes place in 15th century europe and we follow a young kid called rafael who is studying to go into university he wants to be an astronomer but at this time you might remember that with the church being in complete control of certain areas that was looked down upon because that would invite heretical teachings and all that stuff that go against the doctrine at the time so rafael is hiding the fact that he wants to be an astronomer and is telling his stepfather that he wants to study theology so he meets with this former heretic and this guy teaches him in a nutshell about heliocentrism and the idea of course that the earth revolves around the sun it's not the center of the universe and all that stuff and these are things that happen in real life unfortunately due to the ignorance and fear a lot of people lost their lives because of this and this story reminds us of that humans are capable of horrible things and also without spoiling things at a certain point in the first couple of chapters the story moves forward a decade and we follow other characters that find rafael's teachings that he left behind and continue the story from there and their own journey of self-discovery and challenging what was the norm back then now it is very important for me to point out that a lot of people will discredit the book or will just claim it as anti-establishment or anti-religion and all that stuff and i don't really see it that way it tells more of a cautionary tale of what happens when we let fear dictate our lives and oppress people without the fundamentals of good spirit and reaching out and conversing with individuals like i mentioned at the beginning this is a story rooted in fear of the unknown and scientific stuff was not well known back then and it took a giant leap of faith of certain people that wanted to progress the knowledge and science and all that stuff for our better understanding of nature of space of earth or the human experience if you will that progress which i think should never be stopped and should keep pushing forward is the central drive of this book and the part that appeals to me the most also the fact that it's in medieval europe which is fascinating to me i love studying about that time period and the characters here are very human in the way that they are written they have fears and concerns but also hope and optimism of the fact that the knowledge that they are seeking can change the world for good and it's very important to remind ourselves that it's not about the religion it's about people fearing and committing things in the name of a doctrine when the doctrine does not call for torture and violence and all that stuff it's very important to remember that we are heavily flawed beings but it should not be the total absolute of a thing if that makes sense i don't want to get too much into it some people might not like what i'm saying but i wanted to share my thoughts on the book the art is great at times but other times it's just okay it fluctuates between amazing and kind of mid but overall i like the fact that it blends real topics with these characters and real human dilemmas presented here yeah pretty interesting book orb on the movements of the earth the last book we're gonna talk about is one of my most anticipated books i'm so happy that i finally have it here in my hands it is steel of the celestial shadows volume one this is by daruma matsura and it tells the story of a down and out samurai named ryuudo konosuke he is struggling to be part of 19th century japan because ever since he was a kid he's been afflicted by this curse that leaves him unable to touch metal which sounds pretty wacky but considering that he is a samurai he's not able to wield that extension of himself and to not be able to do that leaves him depressed angry frustrated and whenever he tries to go into town to get a new job he can't because everybody's mocking him he can't accept any bodyguard jobs and he always has a disheveled look people tell him to shave but he can't because he can't touch the razor blade so that leads to some humiliating moments for our main protagonist now at a moment of despair facing off against some bullies later down the story he is down on his luck and wishes for them to end his life in combat which leads to i guess one of the most iconic scenes in this first volume when you see the sword bend backwards and it pokes the bad guy in his forehead this leads to our main protagonist being involved with a young beautiful lady who is mysteriously enamored by our samurai and wants to marry him she is his biggest supporter and wants him to do well and is taking care of him he can't fathom the idea that luck might be on his side and things might get better so there's a lot of self-doubt going on here i don't want to reveal a whole lot but i do like that throughout the story even though it touches on the curse aspect early on you might think it's a straightforward samurai story but as you keep reading into the chapters and the encounters that these characters have you realize that there's a lot of supernatural aspects to this and there's sort of a layer of another world just itching to come at you and appear and make itself known to you one of the strongest aspects of this manga definitely has to be the art this looks phenomenal i love the contrast of the well-detailed backgrounds with the almost cel-shady character designs it looks really good i was blown away by the craftsmanship here by the creator look how pretty everything looks and how almost borderline comical because of our main protagonist and his facial expressions yet there's an elegance and a regalness when the young lady appears my favorite aspect aside from the supernatural stuff is the fact that ryudo reminds me of the everyman he is conflicted he is confused but he's willing to work at it no matter how long it takes even when things are at their worst and sometimes it takes an external force in this case his nearly appointed wife to remind him that life is worth living and you need that extra boost that support system to help you get through things and make you a better individual i think that's a great message if you ask me so there it is guys another successful reading vlog in the can if you will thank you so very much for all the likes all the comments all the new people that have subscribed welcome that is going to be it for now thank you so much once again god bless stay safe out there and i will catch all of you on our next video


Hey everybody, I'm Jen, and this is the opensource.com weekly top five. At number five this week, 12 highlights from the OpenStack roadmap. Jason Baker serves up 12 videos with a short summary for each of OpenStack projects and their plans for 2015. Project team leads for each of the projects talk about their core mission, what they accomplished in their last release, and what their goals are for their next release. At number four, the power of Docker and open source ecosystems. Docker was named one of the top 10 open source projects by opensource.com this year, and in this article, CEO of Docker, Ben Galub, reflects on the power of open source ecosystems and communities as a big contributor to their success. Ben expresses his excitement to have Docker on the list for a second year in a row and names fellow top listers as partners in the Docker ecosystem. Ansible, Apache Vessos, Kubernetes and OpenStack, to name a few, have all embraced a truly open model, including governance, contribution, design and interfaces. What's the roadmap look like for Docker in 2015? Ben dedicates three solid paragraphs to this question, so go find out. At number three, we have 10 entry points to tech for girls, women and everyone. If you're part of an open source project, you may know that entry might not always be the easiest thing. It's a topic we cover frequently on the site. We even have a series for articles for the beginner in open source. Here, OpenStack sysadmin Elizabeth Joseph shares a list of tips just for women, a list just for girls, and then a list for everyone. Maybe you're even just interested in seeing the gender gap close in open source and tech. So as an ally, Elizabeth urges you to volunteer and give some tips for that too. In number two, we have the building blocks of a distribution from Linux from scratch. If you know Linux, you know that each distribution is built using the same basic building blocks, but the end results are always different. To learn more about these building blocks and how to build a Linux foundation, Joshua home recommends that you turn to Linux from scratch. And if you want to take it beyond that to build your own functional and customized system, then beyond Linux from scratch is for you. There are three other projects you might be interested in too. And for more information on automated Linux from scratch, cross Linux from scratch and hardened Linux from scratch, check out this article. Finally, at number one this week, we have five open source projects to join in 2015. Scott Nesbitt shares five open source project projects you should join in 2015. They may not be the highest profile projects like Docker or OpenStack, but they might they made the list because of their ease of entry as a newcomer and because of their unique project challenges. Find out more about BRL CAD, speed dreams, open MRS, audacity and floss manuals in this article. And if those don't suit what you're looking for, you can use one of these two great resources to find one that might. Open Hatch and Open Hub. They help you track, compare and choose an open project to join. You can find all of the links to the articles in the show notes below and we publish the article every Saturday. Thanks so much and we'll see you next week.


Greetings my esteemed subscribers, Glorfindel here, checking in with a few insights regarding Amazon's new Rings of Power series. Now to explain what this entire endeavor is all about. One could argue, one could say that it is a very expensive display of dominance, so similar as to how a schoolyard bully would go up to some younger children to take their toys, one to display dominance and two to ventilate his own frustration at not having such nice toys himself. So that is how you could summarize the entire series if you would like. So if you view this in the context of other on-going in the Western world with subversion of history, I'm looking at you BBC, you are subverting British history. You see burning of churches in France, you see the tearing down of monuments in all of the West. So you see this attack on European identity. This is just another attack on said identity. So Tolkien of course, an English Patriot, an appreciator of Germanic folklore, mythology, culture, language, he would be very upset, I can only surmise if he saw what Amazon has done to his work and something else if we want to psychoanalyze the reasons behind desecrating Tolkien's world like this, you have such a thing as the provocateur archetype who gets a kick out of provoking others. So they of course, they see guys like me getting angry. And this is also why I debated with myself whether I should make this video or not because I know also that they are getting a kick when they see guys like me getting sad, getting upset. That is why they are desecrating things such as our stories, our mythology, everything like this. So they do it to provoke a reaction and this also conveniently enough. Then they can say, you know all of these critiques we've gotten of our series, it's actually from intolerant right-wing extremists. It's absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the series is absolutely horrible in every way. So it's a convenient scapegoat to just say that, you know, these guys, they don't like it because of these other reasons. They know full well that the series is bad. No one will like the series. If you think you like the series, you are deluding yourself just as someone who likes modern art is deluding himself into believing it's good. If you have to convince yourself that something is good, which you do with modern art by the way, you say to yourself, oh, but if I can rationalize why I like this painting, you don't like it. You don't need to convince yourself that something that is beautiful is beautiful. If you see a beautiful painting, it is beautiful. If you see a beautiful story, Lord of the Rings, it is beautiful. You don't need to convince yourself. So if you think you like the series, you are wrong and you should admit it to yourself. And speaking of which, we can say that we have two different perspectives. One perspective, the correct perspective is, of course, guys like me saying that this is a subversion of Tolkien's work. Then you have the other camp who only will pretend to like Amazon's series to spite guys like me. They pretend to like it to spite guys like me. Now, here is something, as an art critic as I am, I have learned throughout my many years of admiring art that good art comes from a position of passion, love, creativity. You can't buy these things. Money is great for many things. If you want to make something great, yes, money is important. But if you don't have, if you don't come from a position of love, which Tolkien did, he came from a position of love for all things Germanic, Germanic myth primarily, of course, and a sense of patriotism he wanted to give England a myth, which he did. This is an English myth. He came from a position of love, he had great creativity, and he created a beautiful story. This is the starting point and this is why everyone likes Lord of the Rings. Now this Amazon production team, its members, they come from a position of resentment, hate, and destruction. And you can't build anything of beauty from this. Same thing as I've said that you should never base any identity on hate because it's not something that you can build solid foundation upon because it will only ever be bad. So love comes first. I'm not going to go into a religious discussion here but if you are religious you can say that God comes first and then everything else can come after. So you need to have an appreciation for the beautiful, the good, and love, then you can start building. Otherwise you can't expect to create good art. So this is also why this Amazon series it will not be well received because it's based on a desire for revenge against imaginary slights. It's based on a desire to desecrate the story of someone else. It's based on a desire to take something from someone else to say this is ours now. This is what we can do with your story that is sacred to you. So basically as you probably have surmised by now I don't recommend you to watch it. I don't recommend you to hate watch it either. I don't recommend you to watch it without critical eye. I recommend you to not watch it at all. Do not give these people your money just as you shouldn't watch porn. Just as I've said in a great many videos that if you watch porn if there is a demand for porn there will be a supply for porn.  As long as people are watching Amazon's filth there will be a continuous supply of said filth. So don't hate watch it, don't watch it for fun or anything like that. Don't watch it at all. If you do it's degrading to yourself it's undignified it's similar as to watching porn. So anyway I just wanted to explain that I want to do rant a bit of course I am yeah I am a bit angry I don't let this anger get to me I don't let it influence my mental landscape I don't let it make me have a bad day I simply make this video to explain to you why they are doing it what it is and the psychology behind it. So hopefully this will help you resist watching it if you had the temptation of doing so. So anyway thank you for watching and thank you for your support XXO BOOM!