Everything is air, contracting and expanding. This air is ultimately nothing, without location, sensing. Nervous systems have no identity besides conditioned delusion. Eyeballs and perception are empty, just like space. The space inside all buildings is the same. The labels we slap on them are different. Focusing on differences in furniture is like being lost in skin color, nationality or politics. These clouds of sensations are nebulae of stardust. Everything is air-sensing, without separate entities, nor labels, ideas or time. The air undergoes contract to contract into pain, solidity, separation. There are options in all contracts to expand back into vastness. These options can take cycles to be exercised. Avoiding the return to the nothing one ultimately is at the center of the wheel. Air frequently clings to its pain, righteousness and ideas. Shielding, deflecting, insisting, all to avoid the infinite void. It does not come without great pain to surrender all of one's existence. Air goes through dark nights while deprogramming perception back to emptiness. These expansions feel like psychological deaths, purges, exorcisms. The demonic programs are seen to be profound servants. The devil is both one's best friend and greatest enemy. It is the way air spars itself. Not a single pupil is anything other than this identityless eternity. The only thing it has is to cling to these mirages in a shoreless sea. Or exercise the option to let go, surrender and sink into the abyss. Air will forever condition itself across endless playgrounds. Intracting and expanding in ceaseless exploration. There is no stop button, but there is lasting well-being. The only way to access it is to forgo self and reunite with void. The well of honey under the rock awaits.


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Thank you. The agenda for today's meeting is going to have three parts. I'm going to do a general update on ARL happening and assessment activities. The second part will be some of the latest findings regarding our evaluation of the last library assessment conference and some of the plans we have for the upcoming library assessment conference and Steve Heeler, the co-chair of the library assessment conference, will do that part. Steve is sitting over here for those who don't know him. And then there is a third part to today's event that was sparked by interest expressed is the ARLSS discussion list with questions about the iPad Academic Library Survey, the US National Survey, that the National Center for Educational Statistics is implementing, and number of definitional issues that you are all struggling with, and we have a way to communicate some of this information to them. That part of the discussion will be facilitated by David Larson from the University of Chicago, who will be coming from another meeting that he's attending right now. Thank you. So I don't know how many of you are aware of this past year. We lost our colleague, Julia Blixtrup, and it has been a great honor to work with Julia. She was going to be at the library assessment conference in Seattle, but she wasn't. She's been at every other library assessment conference. And I think we're still going through understanding what that means for us. I know the ARLSS Board will be discussing what is appropriate to do for Julia and Elliot Shore, our executive director, and Sue Bochman, our deputy, will be forwarding some ideas to the board. Just be aware that we have ideas about a potential scholarship fund and things like that, so you'll be hearing more from us on that. And also just to say how blessed, really, we all are for having Julia in our life. Thank you. She always smiles. And I always try to open this meeting by giving a sense, we always have some people who are new. And oftentimes, they want to ask ARL, okay, I've been to an ACRL meeting and this is the same thing. And I always try to have a little bit of a sentence there, outlining what's the difference between ARL and ACRL, they are two different organizations. ARL is an institutionally-based organization and our member libraries are 126 research libraries in the US and Canada. And our headquarters are in Washington, D.C., and we overlook our wonderful DuPont circle. I hope if you are in that area, you'll come to visit the offices, the 21 DuPont circle. And the membership covers US and Canada. And I'm really glad we have with us today more than one ARL director, Bob Fox is the chair of the Statistics and Assessment Committee and he's always been here at our meeting. But we also have with us today Martha Whitehead from Queen's University, am I missing any other ARL directors? I haven't seen them yet, thank you. And it's actually good to have Martha here because I am talking a little bit about where we are in the strategic thinking and design process, so you may want to say a sentence or two, I don't want to put you on the spot on that. It'll come, yeah, I have a slide with a framework there. So the typically, traditionally, historically, ARL has focused on strengthening research library performance and influencing the scholarly information environment. And the portfolio Julia was leading had to do with the scholarly information environment and it's a very vibrant portfolio that, as all of you know, it's changing with the scholarly publishing changing. So I can walk you actually through this a little bit more. Right in the middle of this picture, it talks about the core activities that Statistics and Assessment is engaged in. It's about describing member characteristics, roles and contributions. And clearly with a lot of the data we are collecting, that's what we are trying to do. And why are we trying to do that? So that we can articulate and represent research library interest so that we can advocate. That's what it says over there, advocacy. And so that we can monitor our environment. And this aims at enabling action that are organized through different membership forums and inform and mobilize our member libraries and also enable institutional responses. So as, for example, we are engaged into, oh, wonderful. I heard a noise, but it's going to block the sound behind me. Thank you. Very good. So you can actually see that a little better now. So again, a summary of describing ARL roles. We are in transition. One of the major elements of our transition in the office was our big renovation. Last Christmas, New Year's were about four weeks. The office was closed. Here you see the before and the after. As part of this sort of picture that describes our roles, I was going to mention an example. Like the facility's inventory, for example, that we collected the way of describing what's happening to member libraries. Part of that work has been featured at the different membership forums we've had, even at the library assessment forum. Again, we are trying to find out best practices amongst our member libraries and that's driving the information exchange that we're engaged in. I think beyond our member libraries, though, we are part of the larger university system. We always try to integrate with what the universities are doing. And a part of our role is to monitor all that environment. So as an example of how the facilities work, for example, fits in this circle and you can see that with other aspects. Yeah, we have also Mike here. You cannot see it there. You can see that with other aspects of the ARL agenda. I think I'm trying to do too many things, but it's a first. Trying to record it, for posterity, trying to project, trying to block the sun, which sounds successful. So we are in transition and this was a picture of our renovation. And if you haven't seen on our website, there are pages about our strategic thinking and design process. It was a series of regional meetings that engage 300 class people. There is a report that the membership has varied and there is a product, an online product, that will be publicly available in the coming days. And that's the cover of the report that was completed in August. It was discussed in October at the membership. And the committees also discussed how they see transitioning into this new environment. Part of this report has this framework that is the basis, is the foundation of what we are being called to build upon. And it describes a number of key roles for ARL, the context for research libraries, essential capacities. ARL has always had a very strong advocacy policy role that is maintained as an essential capacity. Assessment has been a key strength of ARL that again is maintained as an essential capacity. Communications and marketing explicitly stated there, always as an association, had a very strong communications element but it's explicit now as an essential capacity. And aspects of being an incubator, Spark and CNI were examples of efforts that serve as issue incubators. Of course our core membership is an essential capacity and partnership. We're in an environment where all our member libraries are being called to collaborate more and more with different institutions and we are also being called to do the same. So beyond our essential capacities, what is driving us I think into the future are those five areas that have been termed as a system of action. And these are ARL initiatives that extend, they are grouped into two areas. They are initiatives that extend beyond the library context. These are the first three areas. And the last two initiatives that are within our community more close to the library world. And so the areas that extend beyond our community are expressed as collective collection, the scholarly dissemination engine, the libraries that learn. I have to do a lot with business intelligence and analytics. Again, assessment has a strong element there. And in terms of initiatives that are important within our community, the concept of ARL Academy. Am I in the right room? Should I be in the other room? In the other room right now there are meetings happening related to our diversity and recruitment work. And my colleague Mark Puente is bringing a number of scholars, young scholars together in a three-day institute. And the last concept of the Innovation Lab, what I think like every innovation is to be defined. So we look forward to see what shape that will take. Marcelle, since you are here and you are a member of the transition team, would you like to say a few words? Thank you. It's really great to have you here. So let's take a little bit of a stalk of some of the programs and how they have developed. I thought it's a good time to sort of see where we are now and that will sort of push us into the future. ARL historically supported the collection of statistics in the salary survey, I mean even before ARL got established. But the last 10 to 15 years we did experiment with a lot of new measures, development of new measures, and one of them, the Life Hall, gave us the capability of supporting some technology infrastructure that made the offering of these tools to the library community even beyond the ARL membership. Now while this is happening, we continued to have consulting services of developing performance assessment efforts with Jim Self and Steve Schiller, traveling to a number of ARL libraries and articulating how assessment activities in those libraries can be strengthened as part of that effort the gathering of this community in the form of the library assessment conferences came about starting in 2006 and continuing strong these days. We also experimented with a performance measurement framework called the Balanced Scorecard which continues to actually be of interest to many ARL libraries and continues to be a way of planning for many other libraries. Can I have a showcase of who's using the Balanced Scorecard framework in this room? And I will name a few of you. Florida State, MIT, Ohio University, Washington University, San Luis. Thank you, thank you. And we know of at least about 20 ARL libraries that have engaged with this framework and University of Washington had a version of this framework at some point. We've also did some work with scenarios planning. I was mentioning it to a couple of colleagues this morning because they were saying how their organizations are in transition and they need to have conversations about the future of the research library and what that looks like. And they were not aware of this report that took about a year to formulate where four scenarios about the future of scholarly work and how that gets disseminated are presented. And the actual final PDF publication has a number of exercises that you can use in your own institutions to have discussions about that future and what that means about the library. ARL itself did a collection of profiles, five-page narrative descriptions that was a way of moving beyond numbers into providing more context about the changes that are happening in our libraries. I know a group of CIC assessment librarians has expressed interest in updating that work. And I see one of them back there, Eboni, who actually brought that idea to the phone call of the CIC assessment librarians have. Now, what we have spent a lot of our time and energy the last couple of years has been the assessment of special collections and facilities. And some of that you've seen through the Facilities Inventory and we have a forum that we are defining a little bit more about collecting special collection stories that we'll make available to in the coming weeks. Looking at it both, our phone calls have been pretty busy with the various agenda items. Now, a couple of other efforts that have happened during this time frame but have not, you know, they are smaller in scope. The climate call effort, which is an internal organizational climate and diversity survey, a number of you have actually engaged that protocol. And the Minds for Libraries protocol, which is a way of capturing the perceived value of the downloads that are happening from the various electronic resources and services. And we do have a couple of libraries right now in the room that are using the Minds for Libraries protocol. And I see Michael Masiel from Texas A&M shaking his head there. Anyone else that I'm missing right now? A couple of other institutions have actually, are actively collecting these data now. We did a three-year IMLS grant with the University of Tennessee and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign to move beyond just tools, to identify multiple approaches and multiple ways.  We wanted to move beyond those confines. And we experimented with the lead value work on developing methods in about six to seven areas that are focused on teaching and learning, special collections, information commons. There has been a series of webcasts that has captured that work. And we are actually launching a toolkit that will allow this kind of work expanding the gathering of information among four different approaches and methods. It'll expand that gathering in a more systematic way through this toolkit. I see it's coming out before May. And so what's next? You've seen in the framework the concepts of libraries that learn, and that's a very rich concept to be defined further and clearly some of the activities we are currently engaged in will be there. We have a new exciting opportunity with an upcoming visiting program officer who forwarded a proposal to the Statistics and Assessment Committee in October to do a longitudinal analysis of the salary survey. I call it from Brigham Young University, Queen Galbright. And I want to thank Jeff Belliston, who was here and who was on the phone, and we defined this work and it's about ready to start in the next month or so. We know that a lot of the data efforts I've mentioned result in service improvements in libraries, and we try to make space for that to come forward to everybody's attention. We know data management and data visualization are important. We had a panel at the last library assessment conference where Sarah Murphy, Rachel Wellen, and Jeremy Buller presented on that topic. As a follow-up, we are offering three webcasts this spring and they are listed on the event flyer that's out there on the table. There is a fourth, yes, thank you, someone who has a copy of the event flyer says there are four entries for that series of webcasts. The three webcasts are designed to be half-hour webcasts where each one of the people I mentioned presents on how they use Tableau for data visualization and data management purposes. And then we have a one-hour Q&A session with all three of them to fill your question. So it's a series of four webcasts in that sense. And last but not least, we have gotten a new grant on institutional repositories and digital collections on the ways to assess those elements, and I do want to say a couple more about that grant. We are going to start with a needs assessment. What is the primary purpose served by your institutional repository? We are defining institutional repositories and digital collections in a broad sense, not a specific of software platforms that present some challenges, but at the same time allow for institutions that have multiple platforms to take a broader view of the needs assessment and the assessment that needs to take place for these resources. I have a quote from Bob Fox. I was on the press release of that grant. Do you want to read it? It is critically important for institutions to gain a strong understanding of the value of institutional repositories and digitized materials as these resources represent a large and growing part of the utilization and public awareness of our collection. Some of the initial exploratory work we are doing here we are identifying the need for using, how can we use the development of IRs as a fundraising tool, for example? How can we market the different collections we have more effectively to the communities that care about them because those communities tend to have disciplinary boundaries? For example, I do want to remind that back when we collected, we did the celebrating research volume that featured a special collection from each library. At that time, MIT presented as their special collection their institutional repository. There is a very interesting convergence there. So this is to say we are transforming. Steve, your turn. You have to wear this headpiece. Other ways the voice is not captured. I know it's not pretty. At least, yeah, if you did, don't hesitate. You just put it in here. I had one out because I wanted one of my MCB3. But you can put it on both here.  One left? Yeah, that's what, hey, it feels like you are muting yourself from the start. And the mic is on this side. This is important. Left one. All right. Good afternoon. Can you hear me? I can't hear myself. I'm Steve Teller. I'm at the University of Washington. I've been there a really long time. I hope you all have your favorite viewing spots for the Super Bowl game on Sunday. I will, of course, fly back tomorrow because I want to be part of the riot that occurs after we beat the Patriots on Sunday. All right. So, Library Assessment Conference, and I'll look back. Mind if I sit? Is that okay? Thank you. Basically, the goal of the Library Assessment Conference is to create and maintain a community of practitioners, assessment practitioners, ones where we can learn from each other and inform each other, both in structured and informal ways. And that's basically it. They grew out of, as Martha noted, ARL efforts in the earlier part of this millennium dealing with lime fall, as well as the effective, practical, sustainable, no, effective, sustainable, practical assessment program that Jim Self and I ran. Out of these, we saw a need to keep this community engaged and to keep the community growing, not just for the sake of the community, but for the sake of the library and the institution. And, of course, I think we've all seen in our institutions a real increase in interest assessment, particularly dealing with learning outcomes assessment, but also in other areas in evaluating the research enterprise, making sure that we're doing things as efficiently as possible, and so on. So, the conference began in 2006. In 2008, we started our Library Assessment Career Achievement Awards, and this is from the 2014, where the awards went to Jim Self, Joan Stein, Brittany Franklin, and Fred Heath. And there were the presenters. I tried to wear the same clothing that I did then, just to get into the mood, and so I've got the shirt, but it is winter now, so we're in Chicago, so I've got a sweater. This is a slide we showed at the Assessment Conference. How many of you attended the Assessment Conference? Wow. Make sure... Yeah. Well, I don't know who to give the discount to the people for the next conference. The people have already attended the people who have it. Well, maybe you can just give them all a discount, Martin. Yeah, okay. It's interesting that the participation in the conference, as we may be relatively stable over the past, certainly past few conferences, that actually the majority of registrants do not come from ARL. ARL has hung steady since the first conference at between 40% and 47%, something like that. So there's a lot happening in other areas of libraries, both in public libraries, other organizations, vendors, and, of course, through our college libraries and community college libraries. So, of course, we want to recognize that and get the full range of assessment that's occurring, particularly in higher education. You can see that really where people are coming from is pretty stable in terms of US, Canadian, foreign. And then depending where the conference is held, that's where we have the greatest number of attendees, which kind of makes sense. You don't need Tableau to do the data visualization on that one. We know it. The conference structure changed dramatically in 2014. This was due to a number of comments. We got some of the evaluation in 2012. So there was a heavy reliance up until 2014 on more formal academic papers. As you can see there, the totals were around 70 per conference. And then dropped down to 38 in 2014. We reduced the number of posters quite a bit because people said there were too many posters for them to really be able to engage the poster presenters and to see all the posters in one poster session. And then we added Lightning Talks. We got 58 of those, 56 were able to show, and then panels, which were new. So we added two new categories. We've always had really around six or seven workshops. These are pre- and post-conference workshops. Just as a point, you can see the number of registrants with assessment in the title was nearly 100 in 2014, out of about 600 people attending. So we get the core group, but we're also pleased to get other people who are involved in assessments, who are interested in assessments, who can champion assessment at their institutions. The theme sessions, probably the biggest difference, as Marcia mentioned, we had three sessions dealing with data and data visualization. And so that was quite a change. And as well we see, and obviously played some role in using those participants in the webinar series. All right, conference rating. I love these charts. This one actually just goes from three to five. But you can see that really for the last three conferences, the overall conference rating has been the same. It's been about 4.4. This is from anywhere from 250 to about 280 respondents. That's a pretty good score. I mean, it's okay. We keep making changes. We'd love to be higher. But I think the stability of that indicates, and of course the increased attendance, indicates the value of the conference to those who attend into the broader community. Quality of presentations. This is kind of interesting. So you can see 2012 in blue and 2014 in red, that the plenary's got a lower response. It was almost a bimodal kind of response. People either loved or hated a particular presenter. I wouldn't say hate. Hate is too strong an emotion. But yeah, there was a lot of, you know, people really liked one of the presenters, others. Didn't like that same presenter. Put that in the comments. And so if this goes to show you, you can't please all of the people all the time. That's a Kentuckian who said that. It didn't be safe. I don't know. Anything else on the quality? Posters went up, which is good. We thought that we'd have higher quality posters, stepping lower. Panels were low, but again, it was a split. There were some panels that got a lot of praise, a lot of positives, and others that didn't. And this was the first time we did panels, most of which were submitted, but some that we put together. And finally, the lightning talks got a pretty high response rate as well. So we're pleased with that. Range and usefulness of the presentations, you can see that the lightning talks and the posters, because they actually represented what people were doing at their institutions, practical stuff, again, got high ratings for both of those areas. And then conference logistics. You can see there were some substantial changes between 2012 and 2014, and that reflects the type of venues that we had. In 2012, there was one primary hotel, but there were a couple of others that were used as well. Lodging got much higher this time around the university. There was a split between a hotel space, which isn't sufficient, and new dorms on suite, and all of that, which can be a quiet place for some people. Meeting rooms. We've heard a lot about meeting rooms at the conference, a lot of Twitter. And so there it goes. Meeting rooms were rated really low, and that's because partly we didn't anticipate. We had to guess which rooms would get most more people, and we had a couple of large rooms and a couple of smaller rooms. And it turns out that the lightning talks were the most popular, and so all these people were crammed into what seemed to be an earless room on a very warm day and spilling out in the hallway. So the message has been acknowledged. We've got that one. The workshop rooms got really high ratings. We were able to use some of the new active learning classrooms in the undergraduate library, and I think people really enjoyed that. And of course, we spent more time on the receptions than we actually did on the program, so we're pleased to see that the receptions, particularly the post-reception and the conference reception, rated higher. In fact, holding those outdoors, at least the conference reception, made quite a bit of change from Charlottesville where that evening, a little further up the coast, Sandy was hitting somewhere in the New York area. It was just drizzling and cold in Charlottesville, and it was indoors. All right, so how could we improve the conference? These were comments that were made by people. We need to have meeting rooms that can handle the number of people that are appropriate for the topic. We have to do a better job of kind of planning where we expect to have the maximum numbers or just to have larger meeting rooms so that it really doesn't matter at times. Reduce number of presentations. We reduced number of presentations certainly on the paper side quite a bit. People still felt for three days there was a hell of a lot going on here, and they weren't able to catch everything. Be more selective on panels. Yeah, we need to do that. I think there's value for panels, but we have to put a little more care into those. In some cases, we may take a more active role in forming panels, particularly ones that are more summative in nature. Lodging should be closer to meeting area, particularly one hotel. Don't grow the conference any larger. People felt it was pushing the upper limits even then. Folks like keeping the late afternoon hour open, we tried to end it three each day so people could take advantage of getting out and join Seattle in the summer. Our foreign registrants really liked the fact that they were totally jet lagged or whatever, that they could just go back and take a nap in the afternoon. That was good. Moving to 2016, we're going to be at the Crystal Gateway Hotel in Arlington, Virginia. The conference is scheduled October 30th to November 3rd. The 30th is sort of workshop days. The conference will be in the 31st and 2nd. It was not easy to find a place in Washington, D.C. during that period of time. Everybody had one week open, and that was the week of the election. We kind of heard from people that they didn't want to spend election away from home, that they wanted to be able to vote and so on. Of course, Halloween is also a home thing, too, for some people. We'll do something about that. We do plan to have a Halloween party either on the 31st or the 1st. You can dress up as your favorite politician. The election is the following week. Come as your candidate. State-wide candidate, presidential candidate, whatever. Format similar to Seattle. The hotel is close to national airports on top of two metro lines to Washington, D.C. And we have 350 rooms. So there should be plenty of space for people. Just to give you a sense of the meeting rooms, you can see that the room for the plenary sessions will hold about 600, but we can split that into two, so that's 300. And then we have small rooms, but the small rooms can actually be combined into twice that size. So we have a lot more flexibility with the space than we did last time. And we've appointed a steering committee, and there you can see the names. And let me just, you know, we need to get on. Just the preliminary timeline. So the cough over postal, so I put February 10th. It'll be somewhere between late January and mid-February. They'll be due around the beginning of April. Submitters will be notified towards the end of May. We'll open early registration for the presenters and general registrations in 15th, and registration closes on September 15th if there is space. And we've run out of space every year. So just to let you know that it's not Arlington, Illinois. It's not Arlington, Washington State. It's Arlington across from Washington, D.C. So we will be in the D.C. area, and people can certainly take advantage of everything that offers, again, two metro lines right there. Very easy to get there and back. Any questions? Okay, well, hope to see you there. I have several questions, or any other issues you may want to raise before we go into... We're on the 31st floor. We'll see you in a minute. We'll see you in a minute. We'll see you in a minute. You know, we're not ready to go. It's a workshop. It's a workshop of the State Department School where you're over-subscited. I'm interested in having you in the library, having you in the trash, and everything. It's a lot of work. It's just great. It's just great. Here's a conversation with two of our students who are in the classroom. That's fine. And go to the topics you wanted to bring before we ask David Larson to help us. And he's calling me. Elizabeth will let me see those slides maybe. Thank you Amy. David Larson and Elizabeth Edwards. Please come forward. I'm going to be able to speak to that mic so you get to speak. More stuff. We have two chairs over there. I don't know how we're going to work it out. What do we have to do about that? That's hooked on the phone line. That's recording the person who speaks. Put it in my ears. Both of them? That's the mic. So that's the most important part. The last one. But yes, it's for both if you want both. It's just one is better if you want to use one of your ears. All right. Hold it to my mouth. I don't have enough hands here. All right. Can you hear me? Do I need to talk into this thing? Maybe we can hear you fine here. Thanks. Perfect. Wonderful. All right. So I'm David Larson. I'm head of access services and assessment at the University of Chicago Library. And we're here to talk about the new academic libraries component. That's part of IPEDS. Starting this year, I'm just going to hold this near my mouth, I think. Starting this year, the NCES academic library survey that many of us had been filling out has now been integrated into the... I can never remember what IPEDS stands for. That's why I have it out here. The post-secondary education data system IPEDS as a new component, the academic libraries component. The big differences are that it's going to be collected annually now, each spring instead of every other year. It's required any library that any university that grants the degree has to fill it out. And the data collection is probably coordinated by your academic institution rather than the library. So we're having to work maybe with new people and it's due in April. None of the questions are optional. So they're telling us if you don't know the number, you should guess. So that's interesting. There are two sections. The first section has to be filled out by everyone. The second one is for any library that has expenditures of more than $100,000. The first section is all about holdings and circulation, both physical and digital holdings. Can you see? Now can you see? No, still. This is going to break the whole thing, I can tell you. What about now? Yay! Sorry. So first section, I don't know if you can still read this even though I'm not blocking it, but it's asking you for the number of physical books, the number of databases, well databases will be digital on the number of physical media, library circulation for physical, and then your digital and electronic books, your digital electronic databases, your digital media, and your digital library circulation. The second section, which Elizabeth is showing you, is all about expenditures and interlibrary loan transactions. We're going to focus on section one here, which is where most of the questions have been. Section two stuff is a little more adheres to what we're doing for ARL stuff and hasn't, to my knowledge, generated as much controversy. So physical books, we're supposed to report all classified catalog volumes, include print photographs, musical scores, government documents, and serials, but exclude microfilms, it says, not microforms there, maps, and non-print items. Section two, physical media, we're supposed to do all classified catalog audio or visual materials, including sound recordings, motion pictures, video recordings, and graphic materials, but again, we're supposed to exclude, and this time it does say microforms. So one question people have been asking is, are microfilms, microforms, counted at all? It sounds like not. The librarians are asking about whether their map stuff is counted at all. Are they put into graphic materials? I don't know, but it's a stretch, but maybe they're not counted. When it comes to physical circulation, we're supposed to report circulation of physical items from our general and reserve collections include books and media, include both initial checkouts and renewals, and we're supposed to exclude device checkouts unless those devices have books on them and you're using them to circulate books essentially. And then include only interlibrary loan transactions where items are borrowed for users. And that was the thing that I think got me here today because I had no idea what that statement meant because I manage interlibrary loan services, and when I hear they're borrowed for our users, I think we're talking about borrowing transactions where we're taking things from other libraries for our users. But the whole point of this seems to be to talk about the circulation of your general and reserve collection. So that just seemed really strange. If we go to the next one, yes, there we are. I think that we really have to be thinking about lending transactions here, and I think what the intent is to include only interlibrary loan transactions where items are borrowed by other libraries for their users essentially. So if that's indeed the case, then it's really lending transactions we're talking about. And this seems to be the case when we look at a fact that they provide for us to the next one. There's a fact that asks explicitly if interlibrary loan transactions are included under physical circulation, is this a duplication of data reported under interlibrary loan services? And the answer is, there may be some duplication, but the intent of the two data elements are different. Total physical circulation is a measure of how much the collection is lent out to users. While total interlibrary loans and documents provided to other libraries is a measure of how much is lent out to other libraries, the latter can be considered a subset of the former. I don't know if that helps, but it seems to me that they're essentially agreeing that it's lending transactions that we're supposed to count. But I'm still confused because when we go to the definition for the interlibrary loan lending in section two, it's telling us to include both returnable and non-returnable items. And that just seems really weird to me to have all of our scans and copies put in with our lending transactions as if they're our physical circulation. We did clarify this with the help desk for iPads, and essentially that's what they told us to do. So I guess that is what we're going to do at Chicago. It just seems somewhat strange to me. So if we go to the next slide, it seems to me that what they want us to report is our ARL value for initial circulation, plus our reserve circulation, plus the renewals that we have, plus our interlibrary loan lending of originals, and then plus our interlibrary loan lending of copies. We go to the next one for Chicago. That means what we start out with for ARL, 234,328 circulations, more than doubles when we report this to 594,321. So that's the number we're going to be reporting at Chicago. It is mostly renewal transactions. And as I think we all know, we all have different renewal policies, and if we say you have to renew every week, we're going to suddenly increase our circulation an awful lot. And I don't know how meaningful this number is as a point of comparison, but this may be the number that our provosts are more likely to see because it's a university-wide survey. So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Elizabeth to talk about the digital components. Okay, now I'm going to see if I can hold this and turn pages and all. Hooray, David's going to turn pages even better. I was asked to talk about the digital and electronic books and circulation issues, which are possibly even more difficult than the physical volumes. Digital and electronic resources are not my area of expertise, so much of what I'm going to share with you is shared by our electronic resources librarian to give us really wonderful detailed notes about exactly how difficult it is to answer these questions for our collections. So for digital and electronic books, the definition is to include both licensed and unlicensed e-books to exclude serials to include government documents, include e-books that are held locally and accessed remotely, but not to include e-books that are available as part of the database. So to determine, make that the definition of how to determine whether your e-books count as a database or as e-books, and after discussion with our electronic resources librarian, one of the challenges that she brought out in this definition is that this excludes those instances where we buy all of the e-books from a publisher. So the digital equivalent of purchasing on approval is now not counted as e-books in this definition. So there's seriously large numbers of titles that we're not going to be able to count as titles because we purchased them in a different way. You can go to the next slide. So then counting your e-books is also contingent upon how the e-books are used. So depending on the number of concurrent users you can have for a title, a single e-book could count as one. It could count as 10. It could count as 100. Or if you have unlimited users then you count it as one. So this starts to bring to light some of the challenges that we're running into in trying to make sense of how to talk about these e-books. Go ahead. Go to the next slide. Digital and electronic databases, that's pretty straightforward with that one odd inclusion of e-books purchased in that particular way. So report the total number of licensed digital electronic databases in your collection. Go to the digital media. So digital media reports the total units of downloadable media materials featuring video graphics or sound including streaming media and graphic materials the library has selected as a part of its collection. Again, some items that we might consider digital media are considered part of the databases number. And then the final very, very tricky one is digital and electronic circulation. The magnitude of this problem was actually first brought to me by Jen Yu who mentioned it on either the ARLSS listserv or the CIC assessment listserv saying like, how in the world are we going to do this? This is something that we struggle with in general but are struggling to articulate for this particular question specifically. So the definition, report the total number of times digital and electronic units are checked out from the general and reserve collection. So as I said, this is not my area of expertise but one of the things that has been made funnily clear to me as I've become part of the assessment community is that we don't really have an analog for a digital checkout. So we're starting off with a strange premise. We're starting up trying to define something that we as a community accept that we can't really define. Include both initial transactions and renewals. Include transactions for units of digital electronic books and media. Do not count transactions of digital electronic databases. Do not count transactions of VHS CDs or DVDs as the transactions of these materials are reported under physical circulation. So how do we even start to answer this question about digital and electronic circulation? This definition from iPeds does not mention either of the counter standards that could be used and that at Chicago we're likely to draw on in trying to answer this question. Specifically, even if it mentioned counter it doesn't go into the difference between the different counter standards that are used by different publishers and platforms. So in trying to come up with a preliminary answer for Chicago, our electronic resources librarian contacted a couple of platforms or publishers to ask how they count used. So the two standards as many of you are aware, BR1 counts used by title. BR2 counts used by section. And section is not standard. So for eBerry, for example, eBerry uses BR2. eBerry counts a page viewed for 10 seconds as a use. But if you download the entire book, that is also one use. So the same equivalent of taking something off a shelf or checking it out for a year is a single use. Bringer also uses BR2 and they can't use by chapter. Or chapter view and download. And then if you download the entire book, that is also counted by chapter. So we have another just sort of impossible to bring those numbers together in a way that's reasonable. So I think the question we wanted to bring to this group is how in the world are you answering this question? If you have started to think about answering this question, looked at our books, at our platforms and determined that about 25% of our platforms and publishers use BR1, the remainder use BR2, we're likely just going to have to footnote this saying, these publishers use this standard, these publishers use that standard, and from those two numbers come our data. So other issues that were raised to us are why aren't electronic journals included? They're included in expenditures, which is significant, but they're not included in collections anywhere. Additionally, the advice on how to handle government documents seems to be contradictory in one place that you're told to include them and in another place you're told to exclude them. We've included a number of different places to go for help and advice including directly from iPads as well as Bob Duke's very useful lib guide that includes a lot of crosswalks and other documents showing the transition from the academic library survey into iPads and also how the iPads definitions match up with or don't other surveys including ARRL and ACRL surveys will pause and see people taking pictures of the slide. So at this point I think we just want to open it up to questions. Yeah, why don't we stay here? Open it up to questions and discussions. So as a number of you have started working on these questions for your institution, how are you approaching the questions of digital and electronic and also the circulation questions?


Hi everyone, Joe for Jaspy's casebreaks.com and there's my colleague Josh right there over my shoulder and this He's gonna help us with the 54 box three case football mixer featuring 2013 limited 2013 certified and 2013 prominence and There's an NFL shield bounty right here So if we hit a one-of-one shield in this break will randomize all the names in the break So you don't even have to win the shield if you just see a shield, right? Top five will win two thousand dollars of break credit each Now, I don't I don't know if the odds are very big on getting a shield That's why we're giving away so much money, but hopefully you'll still end up with some nice stuff right here The shields have to be either player-worn or game-worn shield the manufactured shields do not count So it's pretty much what you think of when you think of hey you I had an NFL shield. So 2013 this is the checklist for prominence that doesn't count As a shield right, but the 2013 limited that counts right on the checklist and This counts right here. This was the example we used in the in the product photo in certified So we're actually gonna get 2013 out of the way first because the shield won't apply in there anyhow So with that being said big thanks to Hope there's at least five shields pulled well only it only takes one. We don't you don't get as indicated The max giveaway is $10,000. You don't get more money if we pull more shields. We just need it But we only need at least one. We don't even need five just one. That's all it takes So let's do the randomized here big. Thanks everybody here. We have to have that disclaimer for wise guys like Joe P in the chat All right, so big thanks everybody here and There are all the teams right here. Let's roll it whack. We're giving away $10,000 and Joe P calls it a whack your whack Let's roll it. Let's randomize each list two and a six. We don't have to do it Joe P. Next time we won't Two and a six eight times for names and teams So let's hit the randomized button one two three four five six seven and eight So after eight times right there, we got David down to resumé So we'll copy that and paste it into our spreadsheet two and a six eight times for the teams one two Three four five six seven and eight Never seen someone as ungrateful as Joe P bears down to the dolphins next time everyone can think Joe P when we don't do these bounty breaks That's Joe P in the chat All right, David with the Bears Michael with the Patriots Dean with the Buccaneers Christopher with the Texans Ryan with the Broncos Christopher with the Bengals Gale with the Ravens Chris with the Packers Christopher with the Washington football team Regimel with the Eagles Gretchen with the Jaguars Christopher with the Lions and Titans Cory with the Panthers Christopher with the Colts Jonathan with the Falcons Gretchen with the Niners Christopher with the Cardinals Jeffrey with the Jets Christopher with the Bills Yancy with the Saints Gretchen with the Rams and Raiders Dean with the Vikings Joe with the Seahawks Robert with the Giants Jonathan with the Cowboys Ryan with the Browns Christopher with the Steelers Dean with the Chargers Yancy with the Chiefs and Reginald with the Miami Dolphins Yeah, you think we're high rolling But we're not Joe P I'm high rolling, but then we got to pay this guy You got to pay all the team here to sort out all your stuff All right, so trades are allowed if you want to we're going to pause the video when we come back We're gonna see if there's any trades and they'll have the break. Sit ground All right, welcome back folks. So you got Josh right up here. He's gonna help us pop this case open. So go for it Let's do it And I'll grab some boxes too big. Thanks everybody for getting in on the action appreciate it Here's the final printout. No deals were done It's kind of a long break. So settle in we'll do a little recap at the end as well Square box. Yeah, I'm gonna take a few of these boxes Sure And then we can bring it back on camera, and then you'll see everything ladies and gentlemen. Look everybody That's a base card on the bottom right here top loader sizes. These are gonna be but We'll wing it. We'll figure it out. I Think you could probably just First right so I guess I'm separating them, but you can just probably just stack them up all like that And I think everyone can see the top camera right there Josh helping me out All right, let's help each other out here You know, it's a big break I know right so all these numbered cards everything I think do all cards ship in this no they can't No, no vet comments will ship so obviously levy on Bell rookie cards will ship Vincent Jackson unfortunately will not ship nor will CJ Spiller Set those aside all these numbered cards just the interest of time We're just gonna set aside and have our sorting and shipping team take care of that before it goes out 54 out of 100 to various King Denver Broncos that's gonna go to Ryan These are 75 Joe P. I thought you said that they were gonna be a guy. You're talking like they're a dynasty Yeah, Matt Barclays on these boxes. There's Mike Glennon 14 out of 105 rookie field plates autograph Doesn't he also have a long neck yes, he's a long neck Dean and back here. We've got seven twenty seven out of 999 Dustin Hopkins Good old Dustin Hopkins Okay, so the sons were good for the last two years Joe P Good good for the Suns Yeah, he was with the bills in 2013 the Saints practice squad for a couple of seasons Then with the Redskins for a long time with the Washington football team from 2015 to 2021 and is now with the Chargers This prominence only takes a while just because there's like a box three mini boxes. Yeah, there's a box inside a box Inside a box It's like the Russian I mean I said it Joe P, but you weren't denying it You were going you were just going with it Sun this sunset is like a dynasty is like saying like when the patient said Paul George you made it to the eastern They're just like yeah now Joe P saying I'm the one that put dynasty on the table Maybe I did I Don't know But Joe P was talking about the Suns like they were a dynasty. That's for sure But no now he's walking it back. He's saying they're the they're one of the best in the league for the last two years First he said they were the top three in the last two years now He's walking that back and saying now they're one of the best in the league Travis Kelsey 179 to 200 nice This is this is one of the big names right here. Yancy with the Chiefs There you go, that's a nice start right here Travis Kelsey rookie autograph for Yancy who won that spot in a filler. There's Ryan Matthews to 99 003 out of 204 Bjorn Werner. I have no idea who this guy is, but he goes to the Colts Chris Gerard You're like, how the hell do you know that I don't know perhaps destined to be a cold Werner said his favorite video game players When he was a kid was Colts defensive end to white Freny and Robert Mathis Yeah, so he must be I just saw that Reggie Wayne and Robert Mathis. They made it to the semi-finals for Paul Famebo. Remember Nile Davis to one night And Jordan Reed man if it wasn't for Concussion and injury issues. I feel like Jordan Reed could have been one of the one of the best watching football team That goes to Christopher Right Yeah, the field autos and prominence I thought that was a nice touch I wish it would kind of they can update that a little bit bring that back I think I would like to see some more of that 13.99 Rashard Mendehall and Joseph Randall You hear Friedman talk today about Seager Yeah, I actually saw kind of half saw the interview on mad on mad dog today. What were some of the details said that they're Aggressively pursuing Corey Seager John John back very badly. I think it's either Seager or nobody, right? I mean shortstop wise. I think it's Seager. No, buddy. Yeah Polier to 199 Because I think they're content with putting Trade Turner at sort. Yeah, but I don't think they're sold on lugs Yeah, I think they want to trade him I think so, I mean he's more team control all that Ezekiel Ansa Lions Christopher Yeah, there you go. Yancy. Congrats man that Chris that Travis Kelsey Rookie Auto is pretty nice and the good way to start it Philip Thomas 207 out 225 for Washington now Remember these these prominence breaks As far as the shield promo goes the prominence does not have Eligible NFL shields, but the next two full cases do certified and limited football We got the schedule in the chat. We got a couple more breaks coming up after this But I think with Josh's help we should be able to To get through this break a lot faster than what it says on the schedule, but But for now we do have the schedule up so keep an eye on that Yeah, Yancy, I'm glad you gave the filler a shot. I Appreciate that. All right. We got Rodney Smith 161 out of 225 Rodney Smith Nice Vikings patch there to Dean with Minnesota. There's Joe flacko Ravens addition to 199 and There's ace Sanders 23 out of two 210 kind of a random number there 210 Jaguars Gretchen with the Jags Now the risk for doing this old product Expired redemptions. Unfortunately. There's Steadman Bailey Rams didn't Steadman Bailey. I think he Thanks, Teddy. See ya you too. Yeah, he was shot in the head Yeah, this is kind of a sad story He was with the Rams and I think he was doing okay I'm not sure if it was really lighting it up per se, but I think he was doing all right At least had some upside But then yeah, he was sitting in a car with three of his family members in Florida Unknown assailants pulled up alongside them open fire and drived up and he survived two gunshot wounds to the head And was in critical condition while his cousin the driver sustained life-threatening injuries. He went underwent surgery Yeah crazy Anyway Rams that'll be for Gretchen. That was a crazy story. I was back in 2015 Um Penini is usually pretty decent about getting you something back for redemptions Gretchen I think you might be able to get get some points in return for this If not the actual auto but most likely points in return and actually if you collect enough of those points they You can buy you can collect enough points and get exclusive packs Which I think are really cool. They just did the cosmic pack. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for basketball I think might be 2,500 points or something like that, but You know, it used to be that points was kind of a kind of garbage The point the rewards or was no good. This is a number of years back, but nowadays in recent years There's a lot of great stuff. Yeah. All right for the Niners. We got Cornelius Keredine 159 out of 180 Josh Gordon Browns Josh Gordon Browns Josh Gordon What could have been I'm not sure what this the deal with this here. They have like a little notch right there Maybe that was part of the manufacturing process to get the relic in there But there's Alex Okufor 16 you had a 204 That'll be for the Arizona football Cardinals Christopher. There's Matt Barclay to 99 and another Jordan Reed 44 out of 200 for Christopher and the Washington football team Deon Sims 23 out of 199 and there's Bjorn Werner again 173 out of 204 another Colt Otto for Christopher. Oh, yeah, they do charge shipping though, don't they when you get those packs It's Eric Decker to 99 and Giovanni Bernard rookie class letter an autograph 67 out of 105 that's pretty cool Since Natty and it'll be for Christopher. We're on since Natty We're on to Cincinnati. Are we almost done with the promise? Yeah Yeah, the promise does not have NFL shield opportunities So we're just trying to run through this a little bit more quickly the certified and the limited next two cases should have some Shield opportunities which will unlock the bouncy 65 out of 999 Andrew Hawkins Jason Whitton to 199 and Chris Gragg 203 out of 225 Chris Gerard with the bills Deon Jordan to 199 and Zach Erz. He's a rookie in this. I think yeah, he is nice So we had Kelsey earlier and now Zach Erz 89 out of 100 who's Kind of looking good with the Cardinals right now This will go to Reg Mill and the Philadelphia Eagles Fly you will fly and there's Latavius Murray 471 out of 999 The touchdown vulture That'll be for the Raiders Gretchen with my Raiders Terrence Williams to 199 and the Baltimore Ravens will get the Matt Elam rookie auto 115 out 225 It's kind of looks like a like a racer that you would get from like a Ravens kid set or something Baltimore that'll be for Gail There's Kenyon Barnard 28 out of 102 and that will be for Carolina Cory and the Panthers Joe P saying Who's the best hide-in in the league? Yonsey St. Kelsey? Yeah, he's joking. He's saying no It's obviously Zach Erz because he's on Joe's Joe's Arizona Cardinals There's a Sanders again 71 out of 210 Yes, let me actually take this Prominence away So that's all the prominence left and Josh is going to start on this Certified case right here 2013 certified are we doing all There's three enters in here Yeah, a 24 box case of 2003. Yeah, eight three box enters. All right. We get DJ Fluecker 788 out of 999 Chargers that's going to go to Dean We got Michael Rivera 162 out of 2 out of 999 hand there. You got it. I got it.  No, no, it's all good big case Michael Rivera was a Was a really popular tie-in for the Raiders for a season or two I vaguely remember that name I think he had like a hot sister that all the Raiders fans thirsted for I have vague memories of like reddit threads being like, hey, is she Michael Rivera's sister? I was like, come on Smart keys good and grow up guys All right 86 out of 105 Buffalo Christopher with the bills Another redemption here. That's chris harper I do not know where chris harper would be in 2013 chris harper wide receiver Um out of the league in 2015 but in 2013 was with seattle So same spiel as uh, as I said last time joe locus with the uh seahawks A lot of times, uh, panini will be able to get you some something in return for that Maybe even the auto itself, but at this point you probably want the points. Oh, that's pretty cool one of one us flag sam montgomery autograph Texans America America Yeah Sam montgomery That's for chris for jarard chris All aboard the big head express Saving the day from the mother earth world. Yeah 2799 brandon marshal and More chris gragg 204 out of 225 Are we talking top three top three tight ends? Jopey thinks travis kelsey's overrated and can't seize overrated. I think they're kind of rated right where they Need to be. Yeah, I don't think they're overrated Anything now. Mahomes is underrated. Wow. Yeah, I mean you could almost even say yeah that There's jonathan banks 34 out of 225 field plates autograph for the buccaneers dean Was underperforming and underrated the same thing Hmm Yeah, that's a good question He's like what like 25 picks this year something crazy like that Who does Mahomes or like 25 likes like two years or something like that. Well, no he has like Double digit picks already this year And I don't think he had double digit picks Ever like I think It was like three seasons worth of no double digit picks or something like it was something crazy You know who it's rubin randall John's like robert. Loki having a great season. It's karsten wenz. He only has two picks three picks this year And one was like that dumb one that he threw on the goal line Yeah, so I wonder maybe that frank right karsten wenz connection was legit. Yeah, it is legit Or maybe doug peterson was just that bad I think doug a little bit of both For the vikings, there's corderl patterns. Nice 43 out of 108. He's still grinding it in the league here. Nice Vikings dean Yeah, no worries. Thank you time There's ontario mcaleb to 199 and eric reed for the niners 122 out of 225 That'll be for san francisco gretchen with the niners There's elie manning 75 out of 99 and rookie gridiron gems quit and patent another niner for gretchen 51 out of 102 Hey tj. Yeah, happy and thanksgiving to you As well and everybody happy thanksgiving If you're traveling be safe Thanksgiving otherwise known as pretty black Friday. Yeah 97 out of 100 zack erz rated rookie Another zack erz autograph for regimel and the eagles. He won that spot in the filler Worth giving those fillers a shot There's a patriot's tom brady. It's ben rossberger 13 out of 99 and marcus latimore 41 out of 108 Another san francisco 49er autograph For for gretchen and the spot she got straight up And we got john bostic bear's auto to 999 Uh, chicago, that'll be for david b And the last bit of prominence here. It's not a bad case of prominence If I do say so myself, there's brice butler saw a lot of the uh Those those tight end names are pretty good. The thing about that. There was jordan reid zack erz travis calcy That was a pretty good tight end class in 2013 there's brice butler to 999 for the raiders That's gonna go to Gretchen Gretchen is the bay area teams For 2013 philip thomas rated rookie autograph For washington 151 out of 225 It's bjorn verner again and gino smith This guy from the box 89 out of 100. It's the guy in the box. Gino smith Oh man, this would have been a this would have been a huge hit If this if we went back in time and did this in 2013. I think he's still in seattle See back backing up russell wilson, right? Yeah, uh jets jeffrey with the jets There's eddie lacy and we got, um, robert woods 53 out of 100 poor robert woods Was on his way to having a pretty good season and then season ending injury. This is bill's edition going to christopher buffalo There's mantai teo and his girlfriend in the shot And dj fluker 716 out of 9 at 99 That'll be for the bolts That's gonna go to Dean and the chargers Hey stills to 99 and vance mcdonald 15 out of uh, 224 Vance mcdonald Gretchen With that one Michael crab tree to 199 Who was talking about you crab tree? Who was 745 at a 999 Good job, erin andrews. We world had to know Yes, the important question. Well, I didn't realize you know actually at the time. Who was he talking about? At the time, yeah Yeah, it was like he was just going off your chairman. Yeah, and it's just like legion of boom this legion of boom that and it's like wait Who was talking about you crab tree? Darius sleigh to 100 for the detroit christopher crab tree is like Where are you sure it's still in the lead crab tree is not I remember michael crab tree at uh, texas tech He's like an all-time receiver there A lot of people talking about how they thought the raiders should have taken taken crab tree over who? um over over um How am I blanking on this? Because he was drafted in 2009 And I think crab tree went 10th. Oh and raiders got derrius hayward bait All right, so we got a ton of these certified boxes here. I think we'll put a lot of them over here Keep it on camera once we're Passes certified we should be We should be home free all right David wants wants the bills to win tomorrow. Yeah, who does everyone have? Bills can't win tomorrow because the saints out there Right trash is a saints guy I can't think of a worse game for thursday morning than bills or not bills there's lines Potentially matt naggy's last game. I think I could sleep sleep through that game under the cowboys, uh for the cowboys play Raiders my raiders. Yeah. Yeah, that's a big game Uh, we got bears minus three Who who does everyone have in that game the total is 41 points I think god's trying to come back there This could be the end for matt naggy. I guess there were credible reports We're saying that that The bears are seriously letting them go after thanksgiving Which matt naggy, of course came back and said no, they're not No, uh, no, uh, he said we were supposed to talk to them That's probably not a good sign Yeah, sounds good Now we're still in 2013. All these are 2013 and now we're in the world of certified There is dj. Hayden to 999 Again, we're gonna have our shipping team Sorting and shipping team take care of those before they go out to had hendrix fabric of the game old-school raider Going to gretchen Shannon sharp to 999 One of these breaks are kind of hard to see the names here. Cornelius caradine to 250 Zach dicer is your autograph to 999 new generation auto for denver That's going to be for ryan deon sanders to 999 There's danis johnson to 100 Sean saying the red rocket is starting for the bears What about the lions? There's michael reverr to 999 Justin hunter fabric of the game to 49. That's for christopher and the titans last spot mojo red rocket red rifle The mortals to 250 Giovanni bernard autograph 23 out of 25 new generation auto ron since natty christopher With the bangles We're on since natty Well, what do you think about this? We're on since natty What would you say in the game that we're on since? Because it was after like they got blown out. I think they yeah I think yeah, I think it was a really bad game and bell check was just not having it Okay, so each stack is about two boxes if you're keeping track at home No nfl shields yet, but the certified and the limited case that we're gonna do after this Um, we'll have what we're what we're looking for In the limited you have to I hope there's there's so many of them in limited. I'm hoping We're hoping Either way, I appreciate everybody Taking a shot in this break you got to With the amount of break credit And you don't even have to be the one that pulls the shield to unlock the break credit It's worth it 125 to 499 Monty ball for Uh ryan and denver Steven Jackson Oh She was I remember when team tibo was a Was a patriot kind of almost forgot about that. I do remember that for those like a minute Just for for for literally a minute Bell check's gonna turn And bell check was like, yeah It's joseph randall to 149 Freshman fabric for the cowboys That will be for jonathan k and dalis Good thing is these packs open easily nice Yeah, you start to appreciate like pack construction When you're doing these rigs There's a marcus davis autograph. That's a catch three nine seventy four out of nine ninety nine I would say these are easier to open than the tops pads So yeah, and it'll really just depend on from year to year In case to case sometimes they use too much glue. Sometimes they don't use enough Sometimes the the packaging just falls apart in your hands. I'm really find a sweet spot yet There's lance briggs 299 This box has rookies on the top of every pack Kind what's up Did break 184 get loaded? I don't know. Well, we're in the middle of a three hour break right now So I'll have to look can you remind me after this break? But you'll see the results of the of that randomizer In the uh, yeah, maybe I didn't upload it Anyway, you'll see you'll see the results of the randomizer in the On the actual list itself when you look at the main break. I guess I forgot to upload that pack All right, there's marcus weaton 191 out of two 99 That'll be for the stealers christopher drew breeze to 100 dj fluker new generation to 999 That'll be for the chargers. That's going to go to dean Robert woods to 250 That's the 999 drew bledzo And de andre hawkins. Oh, I thought I was gonna be an autograph But 18 out of 25 de andre hawkins three color patch rookie patch And that'll be for christopher and the texans It's pretty nice Peyton manning 15 out of 49 three color patch for my rivals denver that's going to go to Ryan Yeah, I was just thinking that then we are going to have we're going to refill that filler stockpile With this break there's kenyon barnor new generation to 999 I don't remember Oh, yeah, it says organ. Yeah, what? Yeah Andy dalton to 250 Here's another couple boxes here Couple boxes there. Good luck everybody. There's beyond burner again to 299 new generation auto Colts christopher David, I hope so too. I hope my raiders can beat the cowboys Although i'm a little nervous because I was actually kind of hoping the cowboys would have would beat the chiefs last week But now I feel like they're extra motivated now that they lost to the chiefs in such a fashion so Raiders kind of stumbling a little bit in the recent weeks Mark, he's colston to 199 Yeah, we've done breaks like that before willing to keep an eye out on jasky's case breaks.com and you'll see breaks like that We've done many variations of bounty breaks like this that have included all sorts of different prizes That another zack hurts 385 out of 499 Eagle spot man Eagle spots looking really good regimel who won that spot too in the filler Yeah, we've even done bounties dangerous where where we're like, hey any car that's numbered 35 on the left side of the Slash will get like $500 a break credit.  Yeah, draw it. You can 999 eric fisher and there's marcus latimore jersey and autograph to 499 Gretchen in san francisco. Do we need to re-watch the parade here? Probably not That's what mlv network turned into What do you want to watch NFL total access? Yeah, we are in a we are in a football break. I feel like we have is there no NBA on it? NBA Is that right? Wednesday es can day Yeah We've got NBA countdown leading into net's Celtics. Oh, that's good Yeah I'm a Lakers play They play in the air Are they on a backs back? Uh-huh They're definitely gonna lose tonight No ad But I think LeBron's back There's Mike Lennon 37 out of 49 All right captain LeBron in a showdown then but with no ad Probably I've definitely Bucket nears dean Okay Dwight Howard Oh, yeah Dwight Howard definitely in the flex I put Westbrook or LeBron in that showdown. There's marquise wilson Westbrook was good yesterday He did actually 31 point triple double Yeah, didn't look too bad 16 or 18 points in the third He didn't have that slow start at the beginning of that game. He probably would have won that Yeah, well, they were down about 20. Yeah If dare mcfadden it's a 2 99 what could have been there mcfadden what could have been injuries not When he was healthy looked great, but always a lot of foot issues Razorbacks. Yeah, Arkansas. I want to say Markey's colson to 100 That's my god, except when he In the playoff game against Seattle where he like threw the ball across the field They were like it was like at the end of the game and they were like lateral like basically laterally to Try and do something they were down by like 11. So the game was over and marquis colson Throws it across the field and it just goes out of bounds. I was like, yeah That's what you do. What are you doing? I don't know how far the field is like width wise To 199 ryan matthews with one tee by the way matthews with one tee Boy, yeah, we're we're looking for 18 19 basketball too. Yancy. You help us find a find Some cases at a good price. Let us know Cases for joe to rip for himself. I know seriously There's landry jones Jersey and autograph to 250 I'll tell you what if we if we had uh, oh ben says 50 yards, what? 50 yards. That's a that's a pretty decent amount. Yeah, it's a decent throw Landry jones for the Steelers christenard You could check the personals channel We did have some yancy there. We might have had we might have some 18 19 boxes laying around there, but Harder to find and definitely really expensive to to obtain I'm gonna take your trash. All right. Thank you. There's red sorenson to 999 chargers. That'll be for dean I guess this must be some sort of parallel hot box or something like that with all these different backgrounds chris thompson to 25 Kenny stills can he stills? numbered And an emet smith green foil that should be out of five. Yes one out of five a train whistle There you go. We've done train whistle bounties before too And these kind of breaks. Oh, we always mix it up a little bit That's so no, there's there's more there's more bags underneath if you want to separate reorg Or maybe if there's an empty box Or do we cut down the box? Too too efficient too efficient An emet smith out of five and under get the train whistle jonathan k All aboard the big head express We got denard robinson to 299 jacksonville. Let me go to gretchen Santana moss to 250 Rex murkhead to 999 and joseph randall 182 out of 299 That'll be for dalis jonathan kade. Thanks drosh Chris grag a new generation relic to 999 Yeah, welcome back. Yancy. It's good to see you too And there's roddy white for the falcons to 199 jonathan kade It's crazy how much those 1819 boxes. Yancy how much those prices have Have changed From then from two years ago to now I'll bet everyone back then is probably thinking men I wish I would have gotten into more breaks with jasps on that 1819 stuff Another train whistle three out of five Jarvis jones steelers christopher All aboard the big head express Yeah, where we at on the uh, that chronicles filler ben We just have to fill up that pack and that unlocks picker team number one There's nyle davis for kansas city I mean right now is the perfect time to start buying those filler spots while we're in the middle of this long break Yeah, yeah, yeah, like 10 minutes. Okay, cool. Just let me know Yes 23 left. Okay Well, that's good Because the next break after this is just a is just a quick um, what should we call it? Filler break for flawless So i'm leaving you in 10 minutes. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. I appreciate everything Evan's gonna come finish. Oh nice good Yeah, no, I think because this this is it right just this stack and these two on my desk All those here. All right, perfect We're in good shape I know this these sort of so much and sir. I forgot that these are 24 box cases back then Three innards three innards. Yeah, the rare three inner case You almost never see that anymore Yeah, do you know smith to 100 connor verne to 999 And fred jackson to 49 remember fred jackson Jackson running back. Yeah Running back bills was with jackwash for a little bit too It was his uh, his knees kind of gave out on him, but he was Could have been pretty incredible It's elie manning piece of his jersey certified skills to 299 the new york football giants That's gonna be for robert very sanderson 999 jeremy curly the 250 lukeakley autograph nice 10 out of 10 lukeakley autograph Panthers legend going to quarry who won that spot way too early for for keekley Concussions for him to Yeah And there's josh voice to 99 for the patriots michael for the pats Is it each stacks about a couple boxes? It's two boxes. Two boxes. Okay Good luck. That's to 999 jordan reed And steve johnson eight out of 49 Stevie johnson, yeah Break is a throwback. It's a total throwback, right?  Yeah, it was no longer in the league and guys who were just like Didn't even know who their names were are now like these big names. It's kind of crazy to see all that there's deon jordan Deon jordan a patriot. I think this year dolphin dolphin Was he really Deon jordan third overall by the dolphins out of oregon. Yeah, I that's that's what I remember Anyway dolphins Regimel with that one on the 250 chris harper So if not seen a shield yet jamal charles to 199 Still a lot of boxes to go though Kansas city jamal charles There's jamar taylor new generation to 399 Another one for miami regimel with a spot he got straight up Yeah, the bills are kind of racking up the relics and whatnot. It's kenny britt to 100 And new generation relic detone jones 33 out of one hundie Detone jones ucla UCLA. Yeah Josh is good at the college game The use of the Bruins really easy to remember from like When I was a kid around this time This is eight years ago. Yeah, because I watched them. Yeah, this is this is a little while ago. Is it already eight years ago this break? Yeah, 2013. Geez All right, I'm gonna go grab evan. All right. Thank you, sir. Thanks josh. Good luck everybody. De marcus where relic For the boys. That's gonna go to jonathan k There's marcus latimore to 100 dj fluker Kenny stills jersey and autograph double o four out of 100 What up evan? We've got evan here now Helping us out. We've got the righty in Is mike wallace Cory fuller to 999 And rg3 certified skills relic 101 out of 2 99 And that's for christopher and the washington football team Jamal lewis to 999 How's your day going evan? Nice doing well doing well Deandre hopkins autograph nice 110 out of 250 Relic and rookie autos d hop Houston christopher I was just about to ask where where rg3 is. He's he's in the booth for college football. So yeah, good friend You know smith 250 cards here To 999 nate shows up someone talking about the bills racking up. What what do you mean? I don't understand the reference. Cory fuller to 999 Yeah, I think he was he was always good He's always a good interview well spoken dude rg3 translate to the booth pretty well All right next. Cory fuller will go to detroit. That'll be for christopher Darren mcfadden to 250 stifon taylor to 999 jeremy macklin To 199 There's ryan nasib to 149 freshman fabric rookie relic for the new york football giants robert Oh, that's right. Yeah, you were the one hitting all those bills jerseys Maybe maybe little bills bills mojo memorabilia mojo Earl Campbell robert woods 10 out of 10 new generation autograph another buffalo bill buffalo chris jarard with the bills It's the robert woods hopefully he gets well soon Tyler eiferts 250 Tyler eifert Is he still placed he's uh, he's I think he bounces around I think he's okay, right? But yeah, I think there was Chance for him to be like amazing. Yeah, this table on austin 16 out of 25 freshman fabric for the rams I'm gonna go to gretchen terry bratshaw Cornelius caridine new generation relic or relic autograph to 199 that's for Gretchen and the Niners Sydney rice 250 Jerome bettis 999 and mortals insert dwayne bow 46 out of 49 for the chiefs Beyonce with can city tyron matthew To 999. All right another set of boxes here Got a stefan taylor cardinals relic and autograph That's to 499 Who was Michael Rivera's sister. Yeah, that's why everyone's talking about her. Okay. Okay. That makes sense That's what it was folks. Michael Rivera's sister wasn't glee Arizona cardinals christopher. There's ray rise to 199 baltimore Gale There's uh, doug williamson 999 Desmond truffin 214 out of 999 new generation auto before jonathan and the falcons christian ponder piece of his jersey minnesota that's going to be for dean Whoa, wait, what she was the one Who drowned in that lake too? Wow, that's what ben sang Was it was it suspicious? I don't think it was suspicious. Well, I think initially they thought suspicious, but I think it was just sad It was just like, yeah, just couldn't make it back on the boat landry jones jersey and autograph to 100 That's for the Steelers And there's yovany bernard to 149 chris harper to 999 jim brown There's tim brown And steve smith You should get in right steve smith I think steve smith Santa Monica college right i'm i'm pretty sure there are a couple other guys who transferred out of s and c I feel like there is one more Chad johnson bingo, I think it's chad johnson. I think steve smith and chad johnson went to juko At santa and santa, monica. That's a pretty decent juko football team. Yeah, they won two years ago. They won it all and then Yeah, chad johnson ben's also saying chad johnson, too All the remaining box is almost Is uh anything else? Yes one more case, which is right here the 2013 limited football. Gotcha All right, so we're almost there ladies and gentlemen Crank it myself a little extra room here you keep some of these top loader or these blanks No, the chipping team likes to use these oh cool I will All right, so here's the last bit of certified 2013 The the final boxes of the 24 there and then we then evan's gonna help pop open that 2013 limited Yeah, right imagine imagining steve smith and chad johnson on that wide receiving core I don't know who that quarterback was but he must have he was in heaven. Yeah, he must have he must have been in heaven We're jondria ateon and marvin bagley on the same high school team ben's saying I didn't know that there's nile davis 25 Who are the three pitchers at harvard westlake who are together? Julio free and flair and freed and flaherty. Yeah, I don't think they're all the same age though, right? I think like one of them must be the senior one or one of them was a freshman Oh, so they were on the same location for they won it only when flaherty was there by himself Wow, that's crazy. You would think that they would just They would just win everything with that all three of them There's marcus latimore to 250 Okay, that's that's another great pitching staff Christine michael There's jonathan franklin to 299 It's a little toasty in here. Yeah And that is dj fluker Dangerous sing-zine and ja maran plan the same aau team. Yes, I know that that must have been ridiculous too Imagine those two kids just destroying every other team Wow 272 out of 999 jamar taylor miami dolphins That's 250 Michela shore and we got matt shawb Texans 39 out of 99 right That's a good one then remember that miami backfield that had clinton portis frank or willis mcgahey And then yeah, oklahoma state had berry sanders and thurman thomas. That's ridiculous too Blaine gabbert how many Oh, it's just one pack per box. Yeah, just separate them out sing individually So we're close to running out of chances for an nfl shield montee ball but we still have The rest of these so we two four six about eight almost in the inner case right here There's montee ball for denver to find a shield and then of course the limited that evan's working on right now Joe flakko's so we got opportunities for that bounty to hit. I want it to hit ladies don't want to give away that money There's christine michael To 149 freshman fabric seattle seahawks That's going to be for joe locust so 999 uh, erin mullett quarry fuller new generation relic or our autograph that is to 100 That's going to be for detroit that'll be for christopher marquise goodwin to 999. There's josh gordon piece of his jersey to 199 That'll be for ryan and the browns This is for you bart star and mortals to 100 for the packers next box there's bleedy ray wilson 22 out of 100 new generation autograph for the titans christopher last spot mojo Lance breaks to 250 And cornell patterson nice two-color dual relic an autograph 35 out of 199 vikings dean with minnesota It's old grinding in the nfl alec ogle treated 250 That is josh boys to four nine 999 it's fred jackson to 299 bills And out of 25 is zack dicer Uh, no one's asked my tower, but will you have any black friday breaks? Yes, we will in store too And we've got stuff in store as well There's ryan nasid to 149 new york football giants robert josh boys new generation autograph For the patriots that'll go to michael Tyler wilson to 250 Zach again, we've got sydney rice piece of his jersey 931 out of 199 Another seattle seahawk for joe joe locus Kendall writes one. Is that it nice sweet awesome. Thanks evan. No, thank you. All right. Good luck. All right Big thanks to josh and evan for helping this break Maybe we might have saved An hour maybe i don't know we'll see andre allington cardinals to 250 We saved a lot of time. So thanks to josh. Thanks to evan Here team jasps Almost done with the 2013 certified no sign of an nfl shield yet But who knows we still have those three stacks to go Those represent two boxes each so six boxes left there And then a bunch of stuff here Let's see what happens So through 999 jim mcman No, it's just the top. I think I might I don't know. I wonder It's gonna get close. I might think I might need a shoe box because I'm gonna start sorting this.  Okay Um, and then I'll just pick up the rest of the brain. Yeah, uh, these are these are just um serial numbered cars This is just base. Got it. No vet hong's And it looks like uh Will there be a recap after this yanty? Of course there will be Deon jordan No, I'm just gonna make everybody watch a two hour video In fact, I might do the recap video in a separate video just because this break video is so long already There's dolphins amondola the 250 aj green to 199 usually any any break that's over like Any break that's like over like 40 minutes? 30 40 minutes. I'll uh, I'll do a recap Thank you And even if I forget to do a recap I think youtube gives you the ability to watch Two times as fast or two times as slow So there are different ways to re-watch the video to end We broadcast right here at 720p, but we record at 1080p So if you thought the quality was pretty good on the stream already the video quality is even better If your device supports it, of course There's the mark. It's weird to 99 So yeah, you can watch at various speeds There's dallas that goes to jonathan k Because we get that feedback all the time. This person goes too fast This this breaks too slow like we never win, you know, since it jackson So we're just like hey on youtube You can slow it down. You can speed it up You can you can watch however you'd like Out of 299 marcus latimore Gretchen with the Niners Mr. Mar tailored 250 And most of these cards that i'm breezing by are vet commas that aren't going to ship anyway, but these will ship I'm trying to be efficient about it There's mike gillisley 175 out of 299 couple dolphins Here for reshmel in miami Tyler bray autograph new generation auto to 999 for kanda city Will be for yancy in kc marion foster to 250 dustin hawkins in 999 and darin mcfadden certified skills relic to 2 at 99 for gretchen and the raiders 25 denarius smore jonathan griffin to 999 tim tebow phil sims to 250 And we've got a tarence williams cowboys dual relic an autograph To 250 that's for dalas. That's going to be for jonathan Yeah, arian foster For a minute or two was a fantasy god, wasn't he? Tom brady that's to 100 That's to 999. I think these are one of those parallel hot boxes. Those will all ship, of course That's the 25 that was adrian peterson It was just recently released by the titans And here is robert woods to 299 I feel like ben I don't know if you or someone else remembers I feel like arian foster Was one of the first athletes to try like a Did he try to have like a company or something like that where it was like a Like an athlete stock market or something Or values of athletes would go up and down based on how they performed or something like that I feel like there was something unique that he was trying to do That I feel like maybe was a little too ahead of time at the time dj fluker mantai tail There he is again right here But like was like a really interesting like a unique sort of thing that he was trying. I don't know if it Worked out It's a keen nix to 99 But he had something going on Now ben doesn't remember anyone else remember Was it arian foster Maybe wasn't even arian foster It's jim brown to 100 that's to 25 It's tarence williams and dj fluker is the new generation auto It's to 100 michael erwin And is this our first keen and allen it is nice three out of 25 Nice dual relic and autograph rookie keen and allen That is for dean selvin and the chargers with a spot he bought straight up It's pretty good adrian pierce into 250 It's marquise wilson to 299 And stefan taylor 174 out of 299 Cardinals christopher That's to 999 that's td torell davis dustin hopkins new generation autograph for the buffalo bills Buffalo christopher gerrard with the bills Russell wilson to 250 art monk and eric berry to 299 There's nick kasa to 100 Raiders It's arian foster again chorey fuller to 999 Yeah, carl remembers arian foster. It was the best trade bait in fancy No matter how hurt he was. Yeah, everyone wanted arian foster What is he doing these days? In february 2021 foster and pft commenter launched a podcast for barstool Their podcast macro dosing discusses conspiracy theories and cover-ups and elements such as the deep web So that's what arian foster is doing right now. We rise to 250 to 999 marx davis and tony romo to 199 cowboys Jonathan k with dallas pierre garçon to 100 Ej manual to 250 that stood 999 the vance mcdonald And another zack earths 44 out of 499 rookie jersey and autograph Reginald with the fly eagles fly That's to 100 the bruce smith von miller Matt flinn to 100 That's uh, montee ball To one to 999 that is And that's a ryan tana hill one of one Miami regmail with a spot that he bought straight up dolphin's edition of ryan tana hill and All aboard the big hit express whoo And we got theoretic for the lions new generation auto to 999 Christopher Yeah, he might be david There's rex burkehead to 100 and that's a 25 that's uh jasper collins for the dolphins and we got corderl patterson to 299 All right, man. Have a good one. Happy Thanksgiving adrian peterson for dean corderl patterson also for dean to 100 corderl patterson has really carved out a nice career for himself E.J. manual jersey and autograph for the bills to 199 that'll be for christopher steven ridley to 250 there's rex burkehead to 999 vance mcdonald for gretchen 145 out of 299 and quarry fuller autograph new generation auto to 999 for christopher in detroit That's a quarry fuller No, you know what i'm thinking of Thinking of quarry dillon All right, it's dangerous saying that quarry will pass in a south carolina guy to remain gresham to 299 speaking of the bangles saviour rose to 25 and no nfl shields In 24 boxes certified. Have a good Thanksgiving, man All right, so well these limited boxes right here are our final chance All right, maybe this lucky pumpkin will help us out All right, there's three limited boxes right here. I'm not sure what supplies i'm going to need here, but we'll kind of wing it here All right, so let's see what we got here. So 299 dustin hopkins there's field vision rg3 We've got four out of 25 matching numbers So that'll be a randomizer I was just gonna have a million randomizers that we're gonna have to do Well, that'll be a randomizer between the titans and the vikings Titans christopher and the vikings That'll be for dean There is limited threads 96 out of 99 Tony romo That'll be for dallas. That's going to go to jonathan And we have marquise goodwin 003 out of 299 dual relic and autograph It's for the bills. That's going to go to christopher We've got rogers 25 cv johnson david wilson So these must be just numbered cards back here Let's use one of the blank cards here Hide some of the hits a little bit You got champ bailey 38 out of 49 Denver that's going to be for ryan Limited threads to 49 That's jake of tammy Also another one for denver. That's going to go to ryan Sufjan, what's going on? And the it's levion dual relic and autograph rookie jersey and auto 92 out of 99 Pittsburgh that'll be for christopher bernie cozar. Oh, I can only grab an autograph jonathan banks monikers auto For tampa bay. That's going to go to dean But erin dobson to 199 pats michael Patriots And we have tyler eifert dual relic and autograph 203 out of 299 phenoms jersey and auto christen for ronkinson's natty No, that was not a 101 levion That was just an out of 99 levion And our train whistles are out of five and under blood so taylor Jordy and bob And there is brandon weed and jersey and autograph two out of five cleveland, this is for you ryan with the cleveland browns and All aboard the big hit express Ej manual 18 out of 99 blue chip blue jersey for christopher and the bills And we've got vance mcdonnell seven out of 49 phenoms Relic for the 49ers relic and autograph for gretchen and san francisco Still looking for nfl shields. This is our last set of boxes here There's joan jameson for the redskins 141 out of 299 for the watching football team christopher shield No groundwork relic morris jones drew mjd going to Gretchen and the jags And no shield anti-taio 40 out of 49 anti-taio and his girlfriend in the picture too Chargers that's going to go to dean young matthews curly let The autograph is robert alford to 299 Be more regular top loaders. It's a falcons auto going to jonathan Giovanni bernard 136 out of 199 For cincinati that'll be for christopher No redemption It's montee ball for denver again, I know these are expired, but A lot of times i've seen i've heard people that can just scratch that off and then and it'll still go through the system So they can work that way or they'll give you the offering for points Points actually aren't Aren't too horrible anymore It used to be but now that reward store is Is miles better in recent years. All right. Here's another three. There's one three Come on nfl shield. Let's go Let's give away some money And we've got an zevil ansa moniker's autograph to 299 Detroit christopher Deandre hopkins dual relic to 199 For the texan that's going to be for christopher Another redemption that's keenan allen Maybe they'll actually have that kind of bigger name here. That'll be for dean and the chargers I think ansa was a top five pick that year I do have the draft page open Yeah, he was fifth overall. It went eric fisher luke yokel deon jordan lane johnson and zecal ansa Three out of the five ended up being pro bowlers It's not bad dog fluty christ johnson grisham urban Let's go shield. No 23 out of 25 marquise goodwin. I want that shield buffalo bill is christopher Shield no fred davis 14 out of 49 christopher in washington quarter-all patterson nice for the vikings 40 out of where's the number 49 That'll be for minnesota dean with a spot that he won got randomized the vikings ends up with some quarter-all patterson Just I love his versatility Raiders had him for a little bit. They really didn't quite make that work, but Yeah, he's doing okay and when healthy he's doing okay in atlanta Out of 25 that's alex okra for for christopher and the cardinals 15 out of 25 there's justin blackman to 99 for Gretchen and the jags andre ellington 234 out of 299 phenoms three color dual relic and auto another one for christopher and the cardinals like he was supposed to turn into some sort of David johnson-y type maybe to be the david johnson replacement out there. I don't know if that quite worked out We've got some extra hits in there All right, franco harris nelson wallace bledso dalton staffer j novicek And we've got field vision johnson steward carolina panthers That'll be for cori We got matching positions 47 out of 49. That's a randomizer between the niners and the seattle seahawks We haven't had too many randomizers in this great just those two over there And we've got two here none of which are Shields. I want shields There's vaughn miller a piece of his jersey 97 out of 99 limited threads for denver It's going to be for ryan the gabinesca bar 69 out of 99 rookie jersey and auto going to dallas that'll be for jonathan k rison thomas morris dug williams No, no quitting patent to 99. That'll be for gretchen and the niners You got groundwork to 99 ronnie hillman And it's for denver. That's going to go to ryan and then 37 out of 49 jordan reid dual relic and auto for washington christopher Come on Let's go shield need a shield here alway jackson jackson jones Monty ball to 99 For denver. That's going to go to ryan There's lance briggs limited threads to 99 bears david b ronde barber for the buccaneers Some nice penmanship there dual relic and auto one out of 25 buccaneers dean The spot that he won You know, there's marcus weeden To 199 for the stealers christopher Just three boxes left Nothing else here Or final three boxes of this 54 box three case break I appreciate everybody getting in on it giving this a shot appreciate it Looks like I grabbed a hit 21 out 49 Doug martin pedigrew newton gale sears Tavon austin to 99 rams that's that'll go to gretchen And the ramelly De marcus where to 99 Dallas that's going to go to jonathan chemical tomkins to 299 moniker's autograph Patriots that'll be for michael And steadman bailey tonight 199 mingo thomas davis brown josh voice moniker's autograph to 149 Patriots that's going to be for michael Not a shield vance mcdonnell to 199 Gretchen and the niners Redemption That is quintin patten Who is a niner? Our last chance for a shield Let's go. Come on Got burkhett Got limited threads jimmy graham to 25 I'll be a saint's relic for yancy Tony moaki Limited threads to 99 Not a shield. That's jonathan franklin dual relic in auto 58 out of 199. That's a hit for the green bay though. That'll be for chris parent No nfl shields But I appreciate everybody trying listen nothing ventured nothing gained We had to do it. We had to figure it out. We had to try it Appreciate everybody trying and getting in one way or the other Whether it was via a filler or whether it was just straight up spots. Thank you That was our 54 box three case football mixer bounty did not hit but Hey, we tried there was only there was only one way to find out to do the break and we did I appreciate that. Thank you All right a couple quick randomizers This is the matching numbers chris johnson tennessee adrean peterson minnesota And then jerry rice and steve largent One dice roll for both lists team on top after 10 times one two three four five six seven eight nine And 10th and final time after 10 stays with tennessee. That'll be for christopher and the titans Six four into six ten times for the teams one two three four five six seven eight nine And 10 stays with seattle that goes to joe locus So tennessee will get this 4i 25 dual relic And seattle Get the 47 949 matching positions recap will be in a separate video. This video is already over two hours Almost two hours long. So i'm going to do the recap video in a separate video So look out for that. I'm joe for jasmiescasebreaks.com. Thank you very much for giving this a go I will see you next time for the next one


You're like the king of celebrations, Golden. Literally, we're watching him this morning, so fun. Can you believe the grit, listen, the Macarena, the Nene, those things all fell off. The grittiest still alive? How long is the gritty gonna live? I think as long as Justin Jefferson's around is gonna live at this point. I've really been disappointed in the touchdown celebrations since my departure at the NFL. I need more creativity. I need more out of there from these guys.