All right, it is episode number 693 of Let There Be Talk. Welcome aboard, my friends. It is, what is the date? It's Monday, April 24th.  They're fixing some kind of leak on the roof and they've been here, I don't know, five days.  I usually don't, you know, watch stuff unless people over and over say, you got to be watching this. And it's people I trust. So people have been saying that for a few weeks now in this show, Beef with the Great Alley Wong. And next thing you know, I was hooked. It's like 10 episodes or like 35 minutes each. And it's super original and super dark. And if you have not seen it yet, tune in.  All Asian cast, which is cool to see.  There's a couple of other comedians on it. Oh yeah, Andrew Santino's on it. He's definitely not Asian. Ginger, but oh man, I can't recommend Beef enough. I hit up Alley and said, this show is fantastic. And just give her all the Emmys now. She kills it. It's wild to see. Cause I don't think she's done a lot of acting that I know of, but watching it, just slaying it, just slaying it. And another case of, you never know, you give somebody a shot and you get a superstar that you didn't know was out there. It takes one person or actually maybe three or four to open the door and then your whole life could change. It's wild. Check it out, beef.  Sunday spot seemed to be happening now. It was gone since COVID. Comedy store has been back open on Sundays. And this one I didn't do a comedy, I didn't do comedy store. I did some bar show. I don't usually do bar shows anymore. I remember early on Irish beer was like, hey, you want to do this? Is it a bar show? Yeah. No, no, I don't do bar shows. And I finally got it later on in life.  A bar show is only good if they have a separate room. Like this one's upstairs and it's an Irish bar which number one, I can't stand Irish bars. And how, hey, this is going to be done. Let me go tell you about little Guinness Irish bars. Not for me back when I was drinking. And my fact, it's really weird to be 57 and go into a bar when in last night. And you go into the bar and then you go upstairs to the separate room. And so I go into the bar and I just kind of looked around at the bar scene. It was just so bizarre to look at different age groups in this neighborhood, see my neighborhood, neighborhood bar. And just that whole lifestyle, I just haven't seen in so long. So when I go in, I was just kind of looking at, kind of like a younger couple in the corner, maybe a first date kind of vibe. Then you got three or four of the real deal bar flies over there. Just, they hate everybody.  And then you've got just random people in a bar, maybe some tourists, maybe some first timers. Let's try the Irish bar, I bet it's fun.  But it was, it was wild. Went upstairs, did a set, working on new material, some struggles here and there. It takes a long time for me to get these new jokes going because they are not just one-liners, they're chunks and to do the chunk, you have to do the chunk. If that makes it, to do the chunk, you have to do the chunk. Sounds like an 80s new wave song. You've got to do the chunk. But for real though, to do the bit, you have to do the whole bit. So you just starting it up like, okay, it works all the way up until this part and I'm still trying to find some new parts. So you're going along and it's working and all of a sudden it just stops. And in between the chunks, you got to do old chunks and you're more excited about the new chunks. It's just a fucking, it's just a demon. I can see why people quit. If you don't have the full strength and drive, you're just like, man, I'm out of here. And there's so many weird, weird things to comedy. What are you doing, Gertie? Uh-oh, Gertie. Gertie looks like she's going to get sick. Oh no, Gertie, come here. Come here, Gertie. Something's wrong with Gertie. She was eating grass yesterday. I knew it, Gertie. Uh-oh. Oh, Gertie just got sick, but I'm on the podcast.  Took her to the park.   Oh, he's got gut bomb. You need blah, blah, blah. Oh, Gerts. Gertie's just laying there like, deal, clean that up. Clean that up.  I'm dodging the roofers. Gertie just throws up.  You guys are like, just bring back the rock stars, man. That's why we're here.  Give us the rock stars. Actually, a lot of people have been emailing saying like the solo episode.  Last week, by the way, Spotlights, great, great band and a lot of you guys really dug it. You emailed me and said, hey, that band is fantastic. And that's what it's about, man. Spread the word. So anyway, I'm doing the bar show, working on the new chunks and I'm in the middle of the set.  I'm up on this makeshift stage they've made. Really, really weird setup. You're on this stage and the people are like 30 feet away. I'm like, what? This is just setup for failure, you know?  And he's just looking at me and I can tell he's looking over my shoulder. He needs something behind me. I'm like, is this like a comedian that forgot his phone? I've seen that a million times. You do your set, you're recording your set with your phone and then you leave it up there by accident. And he's like, well, maybe he was up earlier and left his phone here. So I turn around and look and then I said, what's going on? He goes, sorry, man, sorry. And he reaches behind me, starts grabbing a cable off the TV screen.  It's like mid-set. I took a shower. I got ready for a Sunday night. It's mid-set.    It's about me, I need that cable.  And so he grabs it and I figure he's done.  Now the crowd's laughing because I'm just destroying this guy and he's just starts winding up cables like it's an end of a night gig.  And I'm talking, this is a good three minutes and he's ruined the flow of my 20-minute set and I'm down there to work on new material.   Now I get the cables later, this girl's digging me.  Like, oh man, I'll get the cables later tomorrow night when there's a comedian on stage.  Get out of here. Oh my God, man.  Now look, if it's packed, then the people outweigh the barflies and you win but these shows are never packed. They're always like somebody wants to try to do a show. You know, it's probably where he gets drunk three nights a week and he's like, you know what, Timmy, I could probably do a comedy show here. It'll be packed, comedy's hot. It'll be jam-packed, man. That's how comedy was in the 80s growing up in the Bay Area. Once that first wave of the huge comedy hits, it was just everywhere. Cheese factories, lumber yards, bars, coffee shop, everywhere, just everywhere you went. Laundry mats, everywhere had a comedian. It was insane. Anyway, that was the Sunday night and during the day was wild because let me hit off my spin, my sparkling.   One gram of sugar, one. I can do that, it's one gram of sugar.  I can have one gram of sugar in my drink. It ain't bad though. Anyway, yesterday, Sunday, Bill Burr did a live podcast at the Troubadour which is one of the greatest LA venues of all time, the great Troubadour down on Santa Monica and started at noon. Live podcast at the Troubadour and I hit up my buddy, Greg, I said, let's go down and then my buddy, Andrew Thimless who produces the Burr podcast said, yeah, get there around 11, which I felt was kind of early. Like, why am I getting there right at 11? It doesn't start till noon, but I did it anyway and I parked out front and I think about life all the time how things happen. It's so bizarre how life works.  It's like, no, no, I'm not. I like LA. Also, I don't have $100 million just to go move anywhere I want and I'm still heavily in the comedy game and meaning that you have to be where the comedy business is. If you wanna take it serious, LA, New York, those are the heavy-duty comedy machines.  If you're panning for gold, you can't pan for gold on a dirty field. And that's just the truth. It's the same with comedy.  You could be in a restaurant. A guy can walk up and say, hey man, saw you last night at the comedy store. I think I got a role for you or hey man, saw you at the comedy store last night. I've got five shows next week up the street if you wanna do them. Whatever, it can happen. And it's happened for me, 13 and a half years, no agent, no manager, but have survived in the business by being constantly in the business, in the machine, being in the hallway of the store, being on the patio of the comedy store, being in front of the comedy store, whatever it's happened, being at a restaurant. Like I said, I've gotten TV roles, movie roles, everything from being in some specific weird place at a time in LA and you cross paths with people. My point is you never know what the fuck's gonna happen in this town. And so there I was getting out of the car and instead of swiping my card for the parking meter, which takes one second, I had this army of quarters in my car for a couple of weeks because I was washing Gertie's blankets and towels and stuff. I had to take them to the laundry because I've got a small laundry machine in my place. It just does underwear and socks basically. That's all you're washing in my washing machine. So I stopped for a minute. I go, oh, wait a minute.  I'm just gonna unload them in this parking meter because West Hollywood is greeting motherfuckers at charge for parking on a Sunday. Just evil. Two hour parking, $2. So I turn around, I go to my car and the reason I'm setting this up because it's kind of like that movie, was it Crash? I think it might have been with Matt Dillon. Timing is so weird. It's also a big theme on this TV show, Beef. It's timing. This happened because you were here at this time.  It's so weird how the universe works.  I believe all in all of this shit, not in a hippie way, but it just happened so many times to me in my life that I'm like, this is what it is, man.  If I just used my credit card and swiped for parking and just walked right into the venue, the next string of events wouldn't happen. And I'm gonna tell you what happened. So it's not like it's a big fucking, my career didn't change or anything, but it lines up in such a weird way in my life. So I stop, I get the quarters, I put them in, then we're walking up the street. And as I see the billboard at the troubadour marquee, I have Greg take a picture of me. And I say, hey, take a picture of me real quick with Gertie and I bring Gertie everywhere. So with Gertie in front of the marquee. So we stop and here's another niche in the timing. As we stop, the troubadour door opens, the security guy opens and he goes, hey, you guys want to come in now? Cause you know, we're on the guest list. I go, hold on one second. I just want to get this photo. Now, if that door was open a second sooner, I would have just went in.  I'd been like, let's just get inside. It was like a 90 degrees out. I got Gertie. Whoa, birds. So we stopped to take the phone and as Greg's about to take the photo, there's two girls in line. And he goes, hold on, wait for a second. They're moving, they're moving out of the photo. They were polite. And as he's doing that, then a guy comes walking up the street and goes, wait, I'm going to wait for this guy to go by and then we'll get the photo. As the guy moves, another guy's walking.  A guy goes, Dean? And I turn around and it's Mark from Death Angel.  And he's jogging. And this about an hour before was, I've just read on Instagram that it was the 36th anniversary of Death Angel's ultraviolence. And as I was reading that in bed going like, God, 36 years.  Can't believe it's been 36 years. All that's going through my mind this morning, that morning.  And the last time I saw him was at the Trugador when I interviewed him for the podcast.  And he doesn't live in LA. This guy lives in the Bay Area. And he just happened to be in town for some press for their tour coming up with Creator.  Timing is so bizarre to me in life. They always say, bad timing. Or too soon or they were before their time. There's all these things. But it's so weird to think about at what point that wouldn't even have happened.  He was standing in a hotel up the road. All of that is just bizarre to me. So we stop, we hug, we talk. I go, fuck, 36 years, ultra violence, I can't believe it. Which is just a goddamn masterpiece. One of the greatest pieces of thrash metal ever recorded. And the album covers great. The songs are great. It's so original.  They were friends of mine at the time. And we're still friends and we're still alive. All of that was just blazing through my skull. So I go, Mark, you gotta come to this, man. I'll see if I can get you in. It was sold out. It was only held 90 because they had it seated. And it was a very small event, but we got them in. And for the next two hours, we sat next to each other and we laughed as Bill Burke just crushed it on his solo Monday morning podcast. Super funny. Unlike this podcast, this one you're like, well, why don't you try to be funny once in a while?  Some guy hosted on my Instagram. This is the world that we live in. And he wrote, I posted up a photo of me, right? I was working on some jokes. Liz Vig wrote, Liz Vig, the photographer at the store, took a picture while I was writing, working on some jokes on the patio before I was going on. And some guy wrote, look, man, just the reality is you're not funny, dude. Your podcast is great, but you're just not funny.  And instead of just saying, hey, love the podcast, that's all you gotta say.  For one thing, I bet he has never seen me.  And I'm not mad, actually, because it didn't affect me at all. I just disappointed in how shitty people are. And that's another topic on that beef show. Shitty people. It is wild to watch.  If you're shitty, man, the universe is looking.  Is that his name? You're here. Dude, you're talking to Dean Delray, comedian, podcaster, spiritual goo boo. But, you know, it's true. If you are shitty, it is going to stay with you forever. And you're always going to be angry at other people that are doing what they love to do. To sit there and go on and go, dude, it's just a fact you're not funny. Wait a minute.  I guess I'm not funny. You know, nightly people laughing.  And I just block them. Blocking is so great. It's just like, see you later, buddy. You know? And I bet he listens to the podcast. That's not good enough for him, you know?  It's, it's hilarious. And that goes down to, and you know, it doesn't even phase me because it comes down to, I was talking about that new Metallica record came out last week, 72 seasons.    And I've learned it most of all from Lars and Kirk Hammett. Those are probably the main dudes that get the abuse in Metallica and the band itself actually gets a lot of abuse whenever they put out new music. It is just unreal to me. And you know what?   So there was first, there was one of the songs, Kirk Hammett's solo, somebody commented, kind of this solo is just so basic, a two-year-old could play it or whatever. And then it just snowballed. And people were just like, you know, this solo, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. And Kirk Hammett was great. He's like, yeah, man, whatever dude.  Those are, you know, Ingve and Steve Vai and other guys that do that stuff. It's just amazing that somebody would take the time like that.  Doesn't matter, it's solo sucks, man. He didn't go, he didn't do that.  It's just crazy. And then of course, you know, this album sucks, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. And like I said, it's a small amount of people. It's very small, but the press loves to pick up on it.   And usually they have bad taste. They're not doing what they wanna do in life.   At the same time, they buy tickets to go see the band or they listen to the band still.  Look, do I love everything on 72 seasons? No, and I'll just be honest. Everybody knows I don't like the load and reload record either. But I love the band.   They're doing more than 99% of the bands out there. They put out new music. They tour and they sing for real.  They're out doing it for the fans. It's unreal.  They're doing more than all these other bands that are touring with no original members.  All of them. There's so many bands out there with no original members running tapes and just robbing people. And Metallica has kept it real. Same with Death Angel, man. Out there making new records all the time. Death Angel, Testament, all the bands I listen to they constantly need to make new music. They're not cashing in on their, you know, greatest hits. Metallica has the last four records and I'm gonna say the last four because yes, I love St. Anger.   Tell you, 72 Seasons, fantastic. Luxeterna, fantastic. If Darkness Had a Son, Unreal. My favorite of the record so far is Crown of Bob Wire. That is an unusual and great, great tune for Metallica. Chasing Light, really good. The tune that really kind of bothered me was You Must Burn. It just was, it's just too close to Sad But True. I wouldn't have put that on the record because Sad But True is a goddamn masterpiece. That's funny, I was talking to Dave Elich yesterday at the Bill Burr taping and Dave Elich and I both were like, it all really started after Cliff Burton died. Once Cliff Burton died, they would say, no more Metallica. I said it before. Then when they put out the black album, no more Metallica. They sucked.  Now that being said, I'm gonna listen to it more and more and more and some of the songs that may not have hit me will probably hit me later in the old fashioned way of how Octongue Baby by you too hit me. So looking forward to diving more into that.   Great summer. Speaking of great summer. Well, oh, wait a minute. I wanted to give a shout out right here to some of the new Patreoners. Where's my fucking, here it is. Patreon.com slash Dean Del Rey bonus episodes I'll have to be talk and zooms, live zooms. I might do a live zoom tonight. God, the Riffers are on lunch right now. It's so nice. Let's see, Patreoners, brand new Patreoners. Roger Lewis, thank you. Evan Boyle, killing it. Tracy Shepherd, brand new Patreoner. Samuel Schraut and Racken, Racken, brand new Patreon.com slash Dean Del Rey Patreoners. Thank you so much. I don't know if you guys saw it, but they put together some fans, put together some money and had a Brian Johnson statue made. At the very first gig, he played with ACDC. Let me look that up real quick. I don't know those stuff about things. I don't remember his exact spot he did the first gig because my brain just doesn't work like that anymore. You know, I need room to remember the bits, but let's see, where is it here? The statue is in Belgium. Statue of ACDC, Brian Johnson has been erected, erected. He said erected, has been erected in a park in Belgium. So I looked at the statue. June 20, 1980 was the very first gig Brian Johnson sang with ACDC, really crazy to think about that.  You know, those four videos they did, let me put my love into you. What is it, Rock and Rolling Noise Pollution? Back in Black, Hell's Bells? I think there's five videos. Anyway, they nailed it. Some of those statues, you know, when you see them, and they're like, they had the unveiling and they pulled the curtain down and it comes down and you're like, yeah, I guess so. And when the people are making the statue, are you stopping by going like, I don't think that really looks like him. I mean, that's almost embarrassing. The greatest statue I've ever seen is the Lemmy one at the Rainbow Bar and Grill. And it's outside, you can take pictures of it, full size, Lemmy.  It looks just like Lemmy. But there's been statues over the years and those figurine toys that these companies put out. You know, they're like, now you can get the authentic such and such and you look at it and you go, that's not him at all. So this Brian Johnson statue is fantastic. And they nailed it. It's got the hat, he's got the 22 jersey. He's just up there going for it. And I thought it was really cool. I still think that Brian Johnson is one of the greatest singers ever.  Which is just crazy. Because that means you're denying some of the greatest rock records of all time. Back in black, those about to rock and flick of the switch. Which by the way, lately I've been noticing flick of the switch getting some love around the world. People start and it's discover flick of the switch. A record that came out in 1983.  It's like, yeah, you think so? I mean, listen to that thing.   So yeah, Brian Johnson gets a statue and well deserved. Also thank you everybody for the kind words on the video footage of me singing with Primus and members of Tool and Queens of the Stone Age that happened last Monday night. I was asked to host the Jimmy Hayward Benefit, which by the way, the link to donate to his GoFundMe is on my YouTube channel on the video. You can see the full video of me singing with Primus and Tool and Queens of the Stone Age. Guys, it's all a Primus. And then it's Danny and Justin from Tool and it's Troy VanLuin from Queens of the Stone Age and Jimmy Hayward on guitar. And then me singing, whole lot of Rosie. And I've had about a week to think about it and take it in now. And I would say that that was probably the top five things I've ever done in my life to sing with Primus and Tool. First of all, two of the greatest bands ever and Queens of the Stone Age, of course.    Oh man, it was an epic night. I got to host the show and the crowd was electric, the merch was incredible and Jimmy will be on the show. I think next week we'll talk about exactly what's going on with him. He's done animation killer videos for Tool over the years and Mastodon and other great bands. He has worked on incredible movies. He is a rock and roller, has a band with Brent Hines, the Siegelman and a fantastic human. So any donation you could do would be greatly appreciated and I want to make sure that we hit that mark on the GoFundMe. But once again, it was mind-boggling to do that. It was really insane and I'll never forget it. So yeah, congrats to Brian Johnson on the statue and all of that good stuff. I've been doing a little work around the apartment and I needed some wood and I went down to the lumber yard and I think I know about three types of wood. You got the high school kid wood being boner. Dude, I got full wood.  That's probably it. Cedar, now you got cedar. There's just these woods you know about, these trees.  I was like, God damn. Oh, you know, after COVID everything's just triple. I mean, that's just how it is. Supply issues, it's triple the price of the wood, it's triple, it's just what it is. I'm sorry, man, we're just gonna charge triple for life on everything now. Gas, wood, coffee, anything, concerts, movies, popcorn. So I go down there and I'm looking at the different woods and the guy's like, yeah, so this is the walnut. I go, God damn, that's way too much. And then he's like, and then we got some, we got pine over here, we got cedar, redwood, redwood. And then he says we got this, let me get this wood out because I'm like, we got this over here, what was it called?  He's like, yeah, yeah, I got what? I'm 57. I've been all over, you know, the forests and stuff, they're never like the beautiful hemlock trees here. I'm like, what is a hemlock? And I will tell you this, it's the most generic looking grain wood ever. It almost looks fake.   It's insane actually how good these guys are. You go in, your house looks like leather or wood or, you know, I forget what those guys are called, but they do a lot of set work.   So the guys like, yeah, hemlock, man.  Where, what is hemlock? And he just looked at me like, doesn't matter. I'm just asking, dude, I've never heard of hemlock. I know redwood, cedar, walnut. You know what, what is hemlock? And he just walked away, because he didn't know either.  I've never seen it, where does it grow? You know, I should have looked it up. Let's look it up actually. Is this exciting content or what, people?  The fuck? Number two is hemlock fir or hemlock spruce, a North American tree with dark green foliage that is said to smell like hemlock when crushed, grown for timber and pulp production, also grown in Europe as ornamental. Yeah, look at that first one, hemlock, a highly poisonous European plant of the parsley family. Is that like that shit?   It's like basically like fentanyl of plants.  I can't even remember what it was called and I knew it. Ricin, boom, brain's working, ricin. Oh, fucking, oh, Breaking Bad knowledge. It's funny, you learn about ricin and then people are talking about it for a couple of years. Yeah, I think he slipped them some ricin. Anyway, hemlock tree, I'm in there and I had to go with it. It was the cheapest, I guess I'll get it. And then a guy stained it up for me and it looked like walnut. So I've got like fake walnut, but it's real wood. It's hemlock to look like walnut.  Oh man, I don't know.  All right, I'm going through my notes here because I don't wanna miss anything this week. Last week, I wanted to talk about some stuff and I missed it and then it's really kind of done, you know? Podcast is brought to you by Banker Guitar, speaking of wood, Banker, King of the Karina.  Basically crushing everyone on the handmade Karina Vs and Explorers, it's just unreal.   All kinds of people are playing Banker now and you can get yourself a handmade guitar. Hit up BankerGuitars.com and tell him I sent you. Ask for Matt, him and his wife just killing it over there. Follow him on Instagram, BankerGuitars and look at this guy's incredible stuff. BankerGuitars, handmade custom guitars.  If you live in the LA area, they are delivering to houses now. MigosDog.com, human grade food, unbelievable. They got salmon, beef, chicken, and they've got a puppy mix. You can get it also at Erwan and Healthy Spot. 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And also, I just didn't understand how much work it was going to be to do a podcast network, two, three different shows, write comedy, travel, do comedy. And the honest truth is, I'm trying to run like I'm in my early 40s and I'm 57 years old, man.  And in reality, alls I'd really love to do is just the podcast once a week, let there be talk and then do comedy. And, but I love the Grail and I feel that these people deserve their own show.  It really is.   I've got to constantly work. I've got to constantly work on these jokes and do comedy and then podcast. And in between all that, it's like, fuck, I got to do the Grail. But it's a passion of mine and I really do want to get it back up and running. And I don't know if I should just keep it all and let there be talk again or keep with the original vision. I don't like to quit anything. So I'm just trying to figure it out. But I do believe that the Grail, just for the artwork alone, the Grail needs to survive and live.  And I love the idea of having these people have their own show. I'm just, I just fucking, I just try to do so much stuff to keep myself out there. And so yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. So I want to get the Grail going again. I want to thank all of you guys for tuning in and hope to see you at some of the live shows and hope to see you on the Patreon, on the Zooms and the bonus episodes. I dropped a bonus episode a few days ago. I really liked it. It's a good episode. I hope you liked this solo episode. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel and subscribe on iTunes and everywhere else that you get your podcasts, cactusradionetwork.com. I keep it going, man. I keep it going for mostly, I keep it going for you guys. Without you guys, there's just no need to do this. That's just the bottom line. If there was no listeners, I wouldn't be doing this. After 11 years, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, I did it. 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فشرف بل اشتغالي بالعلم ولا تبغي به ما عشت يا بابا دلا وياله من شراف عظيم الحمد لله رب العالمين له الحمد الحسن والثناء الجميل وشدوا الله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له يقول الحق وهو يهد السبيل وشدوا النسيدنا ونبينا محمد صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وأصحابه والتابعين لهم بحسانين إلى يوم الدين أما بعد وان now إن شاء الله تعالى going to go into بعض الملامح بالمنهب الماليكي we previously spoke about the most common or the most famous students of Imam Malik we now going to be speaking about some important issues related to the manhub الماليكية okay the manhub of Imam Malik رحمه الله it consists of and it became known to gather the following information or the following is what the manhub الماليكي is the component of okay الأمر الأول the first thing is the manhub الماليكي is the first thing that it stands on is that ما قتبه الإمام الماليك بنفسه that which Imam Malik himself wrote that which Imam Malik he himself wrote as we all know Imam Malik رحمه الله he wrote his Muwatta he wrote his Kitab الموطع and he placed inside it فيقحا كثيرا تبيرا he placed in it a lot of fit and he placed inside it a lot of علم a lot of knowledge with the Muwatta is also some essays بعض الرسائل التي كتبه الإمام الماليكي الإمام الماليكي بسفرت as a some some some some some some small little books إمام ماليك رحمه الله رحمه الله I'll attribute it to him the Muwatta هو أصل كتب المنهب الماليكي it's the asr it's the backbone of the manhub الماليكي and if you read Kitab Muwatta and you open it and you look into it you realize that it is a فقه أثر it's a fit that's based upon texture evidence it's a fit that is based upon على الحديث والأثر قال رسول الله the prophet said and statements from the sahabes that's the first thing that manhub الماليكي consists of the second thing is ما سميعه مترميد الإمام الماليكي من ماليك رحمه الله the response and answers that the students of al-Imam Mu'malik heard from their Shaykh al-Imam Mu'malik al-Imam Mu'malik رحمه الله he would be asked questions and he would respond to those questions so some of his students would write those responses and as Imam Malik he wouldn't stop them from that so the students of al-Imam Mu'malik they gave a lot of importance to that which is known as الأسمع which basically means أيماسمع عن ماليك الماليك that which has been heard from al-Imam Mu'malik they used to give a lot of importance to that which was heard from al-Imam Mu'malik it was mentioned that ابن القاسم ابن القاسم he was from those who are known as الأسمع and he wrote from al-Imam Mu'malik as I said to you the word أسمع what does it mean is ماسمع عن ماليك الماليك الماليك things that are heard from al-Imam Mu'malik ابن القاسم was very well known in doing that and he wrote from al-Imam Mu'malik and he had many of the أسمع from al-Imam Mu'malik reached up to 3 to 100 جلد how much is that it is equivalent to 300 volumes 300 volumes or what and he answers the responses from al-Imam Mu'malik and we also mentioned last time مَعَلُ بُلُعِسَا he was from the what مِنَلْ بُلَزِ مِنَلِ مَمَلِك مَعَلُ بُلُعِسَا we said he's from the people who gave a lot of he stayed with Mu'malik for a very long time or he stuck with that in Mu'malik and he used to write everything with things that Mu'malik would say he would write it everything we mentioned that the third is the third thing that Mu'malik consists of is ما يُسمَّى بِمُستَخْرَجَاتِ that which you call المُستَخْرَجَاتِ you call it what? what do you call it? you call it المُستَخْرَجَاتِ what does المُستَخْرَجَاتِ mean? المُستَخْرَجَاتِ is that which has been brought out على فتوة الإمام meaning this is the verdict and the answers that are given by an Imam Malik but the students are going to extract some things from it they're going to extract some things from it the فتوة they're going to get some Fawwais and things out of it and they're going to use it for something that Imam Malik wasn't talking about and they try to apply it into that context are you with me? so Imam Malik gave a Fetwa in a particular issue and he gave an answer أئمة المنهب what they do is they will go to the Fetawa of Imam Malik and what will they do? they will take those Fetwais and they will place it on للمسائل التي لم يُقَل عنها فيها فتوة where there's no verdict regarding it now this is مُستَخْرَج this is something they extracted from it number 4 is اجتهادات أئمة المنهب كتناميد الإمامي مانيك the 4th thing that the منهب المانيكي stands on is اجتهادات اجتهادات means what? the independent reasoning of who أئمة المنهب the scholars of the منهب المانيكية okay their independent reasoning their striving such as the students of Imam Malik for instance so the منهب المانيكية okay it consists of those 4 that I just mentioned the first one is المطبع which is what Imam Malik wrote and anything that also was written by Imam Malik the second one is the اسمع the verdicts that I heard from Imam Malik questions he was asked and he answered them the 3rd was المستخرجات the أئمة المنهب taking the fatawa of Imam Malik and placing it onto a place and a time which مانيك رحم الله did not give a fatwa regarding and last but not least اجتهادات the independent reasoning of the أئمة المنهب the أئمة of the منهب المانيكية this is the منهب المانيكية when somebody says to you I am a Maliki his manhub stands on these 4 it's a component of these 4 صح انا ماليكي means these 4 are what my manhub stands on that's the backbone of my manhub okay and these 4 it actually brought out great Islamic heritage for us through it and a lot of masha'Allah the سائل العلمية knowledge basis come out from it and the order is as I mentioned the order is in terms of authorship is مواطق ثم الأسمع and then the مستخرجات and then the مدوّلات أئمة المنهب صح that's the 4 now in Shama and Ta'ala I am going to be speaking about أهم المؤلفات في المنهب المانيكي the most prominent the most famous books that are written in the منهب المانيكية again without a shadow of a doubt what's the first book that is written in the منهب المانيكية المواطق that's the first book that's the first book that's written in this منهب the Imam himself wrote something then after that comes what is called المدوّلات okay المدوّلات written by صحنون that year 240 دجرية and look the مدوّلات of صحنون in there is originally ask إله questions that were asked by أسر ديبلو فرات أسر ديبلو فرات asked questions إبلو قاسم so the مدوّلات the مدوّلات صحنون is originally the questions that أسر ديبلو فرات بقوة إبلو قاسم so when you look at the منهب المانيكية what is the second أصل for them the first أصل is what? the موطّع the موطّع the أصل أصل is فرات بقوة إبلو صحنون نعم the ثاب كتاب is المستخرجة إتما محمد من أحمد العتبي it's also كون العتبي it's also كون العتبي it's المستخرجة إتما محمد من أحمد العتبي who died a 255 and some say no he died 254 خلاف خلاف and it's this كتاب المرشد who died a 520 هجريه it's this بوك which he worked on and he called it الميان والتحصيل and the length name is الميان والتحصيل والشرح والتوجيه والتعليل المسائل المستخرجة the fourth كتاب is الواضحة and it's written by عبدالملك ابن حبيب أستولمي الواضحة and it's written by عبدالملك ابن حبيب أستولمي who died 238 and the fifth كتاب is ال موازيه الموازيه it's written by محمد who is very well known as المواز that's his name he died 269 هجريه his name is محمد who is very well known as ابن المواز now there's 4 books that I just mentioned to you that the Malikis would call it they call it الأمهات the mothers they call it the أمهات okay they call it أمهات الأربع the four mothers the four mothers so when so this is I'm telling you in advance المصطلح when they say the four mothers الأمهات in advance what do they mean they mean the مدولة written by سحنول they also mean the عتبيه written by محمد أحمد المستخرج okay so the عتبيه and the مستخرج are the same okay and the third one is الواضح written by عبدالمالي الموازيه which is written by محمد ابن المواز is very well known are we all together those four books are called according to the باليكيهs what are they called الأمهات الأربع the four mothers these four books that are the four mothers ابن حاجب who did a year 646 I'm sure that one's praying without no سطرح over there ابن حاجب he did a year 640 60 جرية he did he's very well known as is المختصر and is the مختصر is what is جامع الأمهات which is known as جامع الأمهات what books did it gather it's a summary it's a خلاص it's a مختصر it's a summarized of the what the four books I mentioned which is المدولة العتبيه which is also known as المستخرج الواضح and the الموازيه all those four books ابن حاجب he gathered it in his جامع الأمهات then came then came the famous sheikh إن مدهب المالكي لن أضل خليل أسحق المسري who did a 776 who done a شرح an explanation on جامع الأمهات in his book التوضيح he explained the book of ابن حاجب جامع الأمهات he explained it أيها so he placed خليل ابن إسحق المسري who done a 776 جرية what he did was he explained the جامع الأمهات in his book which he called التوضيح and what he did was the شرح that he put on it the شرح that he put on the جامع الأمهات by he summarized his own شرح that's what you will hear from the مقتصر خليل مقتصر خليل that's the that's the book this is the book that ماليكيا have stood over and they done what you call it the وافر and they اعتكان and they spent their time and everything they revolved around it they worked on it this this is the مقتصر خليل he wrote it like it's a riddle like it's an ألغاز when you read it very hard for you to know he's trying to say he's trying to summarize it as much as he could he really did he summarized he's trying to summarize four books in a very small مقتصر he's trying to so many of its places when you come to it's like يميلو إلى الألغاز he's like towards as though it's riddles that you're reading when you're done can you find many many ملكية who memorize the the مقتصر خليل who memorize it without any true understanding of it بدون أن يقول عندهم في الحقيقة يفقون without any understanding of what they are reading you find them why? because of the way he authored the book on the way he placed the book so he's wearing his عمارات his terms and the way he uses it and the way he structures the words more closer to riddles than anything else so what did the scholars do? because it's a book written like that they had to spend so much time doing فاكو الغازي to explain what he means here what's this riddle how is he saying it like this they play so much روحاني they play so much so much اكتبنation and if you want to know the most famous ملكي the most famous ملكي book it's the ملكي the most famous one also there's another famous one another famous one in the ملكي I'll call it the ملكي and it is what is known as مطل الرسالة and it's written by who? ابن أمي زيد القيرواني are you there? and you know this كتاب الرسالة it's written by ابن أمي زيد القيرواني the مقدمة he speaks about عقيدة that's why it's called مقدمة ابن أمي زيد القيرواني and the scholars they explained that by itself مقدمة الرسالة it's the introduction before he goes to the thick issues he talks about عقيدة and matters of عقائد and this is to show you that before when they use the one thick what did they mean by it? thick for them was the whole religion the whole religion so مقدمة الرسالة by ابن أمي زيد القيرواني is a مقدمة an introduction for this كتاب الرسالة they there and ابن أمي زيد القيرواني he guided me 386 with the إمان من أمي زيد القيرواني he's عقيدة عقيدة تهري سنة وذلك some people they push that مالكية أشاعر وهذا كذب ورصطراء that's a lie the biggest أأمة المالكية of the madhab are not ابن عبد البر إمان من أمي زيد القيرواني إمان من أمي أمي السنة حديث ولا حوال they many more but the first person who pushed the concept that it isn't is the what's it called سوبكي سوبكي pushes that there are إمان المالكية those who follow the madhab are all أشاعر he tries to push that concept the scholars they gave a lot of importance to the كتاب الرسالة رتما إمان أمي زيد القيرواني they placed only they placed many explanations on it they did also from متول from the books are very famous in the madhab المالكية is the كتاب known as متنبلعشر الأدوليسي in the year 765 هجرية he called it المرشد المعين على برورية من العلوم الدين and this كتاب has عدة تشرح just know it as متنبلعشر are you there brothers this كتاب has many شروحات many many explanations put on it also from the books I have that I have great place in the مالكي مدهب is the كتاب استعاب the أقوالي مالكي okay the كتاب استعاب the أقوالي مالكي and that is written by إسمعين القاذي his name is أمو محمد عبدالله حليني با عبدالله القلابي القلطبي يداني 300ان 318 what he found was what did we mention before that إبن القاسم رحمه الله guided from an imam malik's question and answer what did he gather from it and أسمع right many questions that he took from Malik right إسمعين القاذي what he found was that many of the books that have this أسمع are there they don't only have the answers given by Malik they actually have the answers of the students in there as well it's not pure statements of Malik only so what he did was he wrote this book called استعاب the أقوالي مالكي where he wants to fully bring together just the statements of an imam malik in these questions in these answers and to get rid of the statements of the أقوالي تلامي the statements of the students of an imam malik but he died before he could actually finish it he died before he could then two imams came after him and they tried to finish it off ثم تبهوا عالماني والعلماء المالكية two imams from the Ayma of the Malik came and they finished it the first one is أبو بكر محمد من عبيض الله المعيطة he finished it and the second one is أبو عمر أحمد من عبدالله الشميلي so the المعيطة is 983 and 67 whereas أبو عمر أحمد عبدالملك المعيطة محمد محمد أحمد من عبدالله bukan أحمدこれين لمعكاتا اعمل civilians not not very من القلت بدأته الشهب من القلت مع المنهب الماليكية تحت رأيحك وكذلك اللقاء التي تقوم بإتصالة في منهب الماليكية هي التحديب في اختصار المدونا هذه الكتاب يسمى التحديب في اختصار المدونا والذي يفتح بأبو سعيد خلف من أبي القاسي من أزدي القيراواني ويسمى البراديع يديني في 372 هجرية .  كيف تستخدمهم في بعض المانيكي ؟ لقد تستخدمهم في بعض المانيكي و what are the terms they use in your books المولود هو الكتاب ونمالك يقول الكتابه لذا إطلاقوا لفضل الكتاب اذا أطلقوا لفضل الكتاب إذا كان الكتاب يستطيع أن يحدث لك فإنهم يريدون به المدولة يجب أن يكون بعيدا مدولة ولماذا لذلك لأن الكتاب يشكلك الملك لأنه يوجد مدولة في الملك هذا هو ما يقول الكتاب المدولة من يكتبها؟ لم تكتب المدولة لذا المدولة لذلك هي كتابة كبيرة لذا يجب أن يفعلها كتابة لذا لا يوجد كتابة كتابة يقول كتابة يستخدمها كتابة أربع كتابة التي يفعلها كتابة المدولة المدولة هل أنت؟ مستخرجها؟ هل أنت؟ الموازية وكتابة المدولة مستخرجي العثمية لذا عندما يسأل أمهات الأربع يوجد هذه الأربع عندما يقول الدواوين كما في الدواوين عندما يقول الدواوين وما يقول الدواوين وما يقول وما يقول كما في الدواوين كما في الدواوين عندما يقول 7 بوكس أربع أربع فقط يتكلم المدولة والمستخرجة وما يقول الموازية those are the four moments and then they add onto it the كأضي اسماعير and the مجموعة written by Ibn al-Udus so the first one is the مخطلة written by Ibn al-Qasim هلمخطلطة written by Ibn al-Qasim oh the مبصول قابع إسماعيل و دانية 282 هجرية المجموعة رتبع إبن عبدوس و دانية 260 أو 261 تلك 7 و قبل أن تتكلم 4 و الآخر 3 هل أنت هنا؟ هل أنت معي؟ ولكن ما يبدو أن يكون أبهارة والله أعلم هو أن مختالطة رتبع إبن و القاسم إنها actually مدوّلة لقد رأيت ذلك ولكنهم يقومون إلى دواوين السبع حتى أن هناك only 6 بوكس ولكن أيضا إصطلاحات which are خاصة لذلك نتكلم أنها مخصوصية في بوكس الآن سنتكلم about أنها مخصوصية لأسكولاتهم و الشيوخ عندما يقولون المدنيون هل لا يوجد أي شخص؟ فقط السبع أصبحتها أكثر من أنك ستكون لديها هذا يبدو مخصوصي بارك الله فيك عندما يقولون عندما يقولون المدنيون و عند المدنيين ما يعني بالفعل؟ المدنيون يقومون بمتباع الممالي و المالي خاصة أفهمة final هو صوت يدني مضع جاء الكثيرoot maybe Maybe بي ساس ساس إبن مسلمة ودالية 216 ونضائره من المدنيين وإبن مدينة وهي إبن كيلانة ودالية 186 والأخر هو إبن المجشون ودالية 216 مطرف ودالية 216 إبن نافع ودالية 206 إبن مسلمة ودالية 216 ونضائره من المدينة عندما يقولون المصريون المدنيون يعني أنهم من المدينة ما عندما يقولون إيجبتين يقومون إلى يقومون إلى 5 ونضائره من these 5 إبن القاسب أشهب إبن وهب أسبق إبن عبد الحكم إبن القاسب أشهب أشهب أشهب إبن وهب أشهب أسبق أشهب إبن عبد الحكم ونضراه من المدينة ودالية 216 يقولون أن القاضي إبنه هاتف القادي أبي الحسن أبن قصار قصار دانية 398 أبن جلار القادي عبد الوهب القادي أبي الفرج البغدادي دانية 331 هجرية الأسل الشيخ أبو بكر الأبهري دانية 365 هجرية والنظرائه من anyone like them so these are the ones they refer to when they say العراق اليون then they come to the Magaribah those who they say are from Morocco not just Morocco but Tunisia, Algeria all of that is known as Maghrib the Magaribah is referred to by as أبن أبي زيد القاير عواري are you with me and also أبن القابسي and أبن اللباد أبن القابسي دانية 103 and أبن اللباد دانية 333 أبن اللباد أبن اللباد دانية 474 and also the likes of them such as أبن عبد البرد دانية 463 and also النورش دانية 520 all of these are known as العلماء المغاربة they are أئمة الماليكي but they are in Morocco وقال الأخوان وعند الأخوين when they say أخوان or أخوين are you there the one أخوان or أخوين they refer to is مطرف and إبن مجشون are you there when they say with the two brothers they refer to who مطرف and إبن مجشون why is مطرف and إبن مجشون both refer to as brothers the reason why إنهما سومية بذلك لكثرة ما يتفقاني عليه من الحكم as عشية العادي we mentioned that they used to agree with each other a lot in matters of الحكم so they became brothers like that they would agree with each other a lot in matters of الحكم القاضي the two qadis and they refer to here is the two qadis that we just mentioned before one is القاضي إبن قصار صح القاضي أبل حسن قصار they refer to علماء بالعراق in Morocco and the next one is القاضي عبد الوهاب وذوسف المعلماء عراق they refer to the two qadis المحمداني ده تو محمد when they say تو محمد سويد they mean they mean إبن المواز الإبن سحنول وعيدا بالعرفة and this is إبن المواز وإبن سحنول I call it to إبن عرفة who died in 803 to him the محمداني is not إبن مواز وإبن سحنول it's actually إبن مواز وإبن عبد الحكم it's actually those two and not إبن سحنول إبن سحنول is not وربأ المحمدون the محمدs هم أربعة they are four and they all were at the same era all four of these were at the same era they lived في عصر واحد and they fought أئمة المالكية but all of them started محمد the first one is إبن عبد إبن عبد السحنول إبن سحنول إبن عبد الحكم وإبن مواز all four of those are known as what المحمدون the محمدs when they say الإمام الإمام المالكية when they are when they are when they are they mean by that they are 536 المازري to them is the إمام when they say الشيخ الشيخ when they say الشيخ الشيخ who are they referring to إبن أبي زيد القيرواني the author of the رسالة when they use the word الشيخ they mean إبن أبي زيد القيرواني when they say الصقليالي they mean by إبن يولس and عبد الحق الصقليالي يعني is who إبن يولس and عبد الحق عبد الحق يداني 466 when they say الشيخالي the 2 شخص when they say the 2 شخص الشيخالي the 2 شخص they mean by it إبن أبي زيد القيرواني and أبو الحسن القابسي now we are going to go into the إستلاحات which they use when it comes to ناريشن and statements if they say الروايات ناريشن when they say الروايات ناريشن they don't mean the narration the process that comes from it they mean أقوال الإمام الماليك the statements of الإمام الماليك if they say الأقوال if they say أقوال the 2 they also mean majority of the times the statements of whom الإمام الماليك if they mention there's an إتفاق in this issue there's an agreement on this issue then they mean إتفاق أهل المنهب the agreement of the scholars of the manhub and this brothers this matter والله it requires and it needs from us we have to read and understand this issue now which is some people read in the books of مسألة there's an إتفاق in this issue and they will come out to you later and they will say to you this matter there has come regarding it an إتفاق an agreement so he would think to himself there's an إجماع in this issue and many books of manhubs when they use the word إتفاق they don't mean outside their manhub because the only thing that they take into consideration is what? so when they transmit إتفاق from books of manhubs a lot of the times you need to verify what do they mean by it? because a lot of the time they mean by it إتفاق أهل للمنهب the people of this manhub have agreement in this particular issue also إجماع and when إجماع of course they mean by إجماع العلماء of course they mean the consensus of the علماء if they say الجمغور if they say in their books the جمغور the majority believe this to them the جمغور is what? الآئمة الآربعة the 4 آئمة of manhub that's what they mean also in the books of the manhub المالكية you find many of the times they will mention وعند المتقدمين the early scholars said this وعند المتقدمين and the lay come as they said this so who do they mean by the متقدمين and then who do they mean by the متقدمين who is the متقدم to them to them the متقدمون the early ones is anyone before الشيخ ابن أبي زيد القيرواني anyone before ابن أبي زيد القيرواني is known as متقدم is the early one okay and the متأخر as it seems the parrot is anyone فيما بعد الشيخ ابن أبي زيد القيرواني it's anyone who comes after ابن أبي زيد القيرواني و لذلك if you look I mentioned the parrot على شرخ الكامير he mentioned that ابن أبي زيد القيرواني is what he is what he is خاتمة المتقدمين he is the seal of the متقدمين and he is what أول المتأخرين he is the last of the متقدمين and he is the first of the متأخرين he is the last of the early generation and he is the first of what the late generation are you with me so they distinguish any statement that comes before ابن أبي زيد القيرواني من المتقدمين and anything that comes after as the متأخرين so he is the حد الفاصل he is the distinguishing factor between what statement came from the متقدمين and what statement came from the متأخرين if they say now we are going to move on to إن شاء الله إستلاحات المالكية في الترجيح we are going to move on to the statements that the Maliki would do if they want to strengthen one view over another how would they the terms that they would use okay for example if they say الأظهر أو مشهور أو صحيح أو الأصح these are the terminology that they would use for example الأظهر let's take the first one الأظهر are you with me what the word الأظهر means to them is that there is another view out there which is apparent but this is more apparent the second one is المشهور they would use المشهور المشهور means to them the opposite of ما يقال بله الغريب it's any view that's not strange in the Malikia so for example if they say المشهور they mean what is famous and commonly known in the Malikia anything that's said as غريب that's strange for them they don't refer to that as مشهور within them they didn't agree on the word المشهور what it means but that's just one view another view pushes and says that the word مشهور is which the evidence is strong is called مشهور any issue which the evidence that's being used for it is actually strong is called مشهور are you there others have said no, no, no, no مشهور actually just means ما كتورا قائلو the ones who are saying that are a lot in number ما كتورا قائلو those who are saying that are a lot in number it doesn't matter whether it's got strong evidence or not and it doesn't matter whether there's a strange opinion regarding it it doesn't matter it's just the fact so these are all what they mean by the word مشهور then they have the word الصحيح صحيح means what that which is a clear or in other words that which is authentic and the opposite is what of بعيف that which is weak okay الأصحر means when they say there's a صحيح what's the opposite of it any view other than it is what بعيف are you there but what about if they say this is the strongest opinion the other opinion out there is what الصحيح يقابلوا صحيح when the word الأصحر is used you always need to know because it's سيغة الممالغة على always the effort are you there the opposite to it is what the opposite to it is صحيح that which is authentic so other views are authentic views but this is more more authentic this is some of the مصطلحات which are present in الماليكية as for the مطول the small مطول books of the ماليكية they have their own terms that you need to look at okay are you there brothers the مطولs I just gave you a terms that are used generally within the ماليكي books especially in their works that are مفاولات those books which are you know detailed books but in the مطول the small books like مطول and خلين and the lights of these books these little مطول they have sometimes مصطلحات terminology which are خاصة specific to them they might use their own they might make their own terms and use it so what it would need from a person a student of knowledge is every method that you're taking is for you to study the methodology of the author of that book and how has he chosen to summarize the method of this book okay it's important and in that case since we're going to be going through we're going to see a lot of that happen so we're going to have to explain terms that the author uses the ماليكي and et cetera insha'Allah today we finished ماليكي I was concluded insha'Allah and since we've stopped there and we've concluded there and I was also concluded insha'Allah there next week we will speak about الماليكي and that is the one we're going to spend a bit of more time in and the reason why we're going to is we're studying مدهب الشافعي okay we're studying that المدهب الشافعي and the book we're going to be doing is what مدهب الشجع so we need to have more understanding of this مدهب than anything else so we're going to spend a lot of time in the مدهب and Matt is pertaining to insha'Allah anything which I have said that was wrong or incorrect is from me and Shaytan and Allah's message are free from it


Is the consumption of soy the reason why there isn't even a word for hot flash in Japanese, as I explored in my last video? Approximately 80% of perimenopausal and postmenopausal women surveyed and choose to try natural means to deal with symptoms, and the single most common approach was soy, but does it work? Outside of an Asian context, soy milk may be a greater source of isoflavones than soy foods, and that seems ready-made for a randomized trial against dairy milk or another plant milk control. Soy milk consumption has been associated with fewer hot flashes and night sweats, and skim milk with worse menopausal symptoms, but when actually put to the test against each other, there does not appear to be any difference. There have been studies showing that randomizing women to soy milk can reduce hot flashes and vaginal symptoms as much as 70% compared to the control group, but without a placebo control, we're not sure how much of that is the placebo effect. To truly blind study subjects, soy isoflavones were extracted out and stuffed into capsules to be pitted against identical-looking sugarpill placebo capsules. More than a dozen such clinical studies have been performed, randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trials, and indeed the equivalent of about two servings of soy foods a day worth reduced hot flash symptoms by about 20% more than placebo and hot flash severity by around 25% more than placebo compared to more like a 30 to 40% net reduction from estrogen hormone therapy. Soy isoflavones have also been shown to improve other menopausal concerns, including vaginal dryness, bone loss, memory, and cognitive functions more generally as well as depression. There have been a few trials in which soy was pitted head to head against hormone therapy. One found their efficacy comparable in terms of reducing hot flashes, muscle joint pain, and vaginal dryness. In the other hormones work twice as well, a 54% reduction in hot flash scores, taking the standard estrogen progesterone combination compared to 24% over placebo in the soy isoflavone group. Not only did the hormones work better, but they can work quicker. Three months are required for soy isoflavones to achieve half their maximal effect, whereas the same is achieved after just three weeks with estrogen. Of course, soy has the benefit of no increased risk of cancer and clots. In fact, if anything, a reduction in breast cancer risk throughout the lifespan and lower risk of cardiovascular disease. The bottom line, wrote one consensus panel of experts, is that soy can be considered a first line treatment for menopausal hot flash and night sweat symptoms. One convenient whole food source of soy is soy nuts, which are dry roasted soybeans. Harvard Medical School's Center of Excellence in Women's Health funded a randomized crossover study of a half cup of unsalted soy nuts a day, divided into three or four portions in space throughout the day, and achieved a 50% reduction in hot flashes within two weeks. What's inconvenient about soy nuts is the formation of advanced glycation and products in the roasting process, though about four times less than that of roasted wheel nuts or other roasted legumes, and 10 times less than a serving of something like roasted chicken, but something like an amame or canned soybeans would be better. Some menopausal women use isoflavones supplements, but most just add soy foods to their diet. I think that's the way to go. Supplement mislabeling contamination issues aside, though isolated isoflavones have been shown to improve artery function and decrease high blood pressure, soy foods can also lower LDL cholesterol, which may explain the lower associated cardiovascular disease risk.  In a previous video, I noticed that those eating plant-based tend to have significantly fewer hot flash type symptoms. What if you combined a plant-based diet and soybeans? Two randomized controlled trials found that reduced fat plant-based diets with a daily half cup serving of cooked soybeans can reduce the number of serious hot flashes by 84 to 88% within 12 weeks. Overall, most randomized to the plant-based group ended up free of moderate to severe hot flashes, compared to about 95% still suffering in the control group.