o into the new version, but I've certainly been looking through that. So I think the experience of finding ways to work collaboratively in that quasi judicial environment, where I think there's both kind of an administrative component where we're really relying a lot on expert staff to provide guidance and go by the letter of the law of the LDRs but also in those unique circumstances like the landowner on Holmes Road was talking about be reasonable and rational to work with the citizens of the city to get things done. And when you so you like to work collaboratively, what kind of role if you're on the the board and, you know, kind of member, are you are you a facilitator? Are you a leader? Are you? How do you see yourself? Yeah, I think like a glue type person. Yeah, as somebody who can fit in where needed. I served, I think, as secretary on the board when I was there. So helping facilitate the the nuts and bolts of the meeting itself, so making sure it moves along and everybody's thoughts and concerns are heard and things run efficiently. But we're also taking into account the diversity of opinions of the applicants and those being affected by the proposals. OK, is there anything you think they should be doing differently? The DRB. I can't think of any glaring. I was always sort of pleasantly surprised by how well it worked. I thought it was I thought it was a representative of City Council. Yeah, it's a great example. But it's very representative of like small government, right? And I think that's like this is an encouraging thing. So I see it as like a civic, civic duty to do these sorts of things. But and I think much of that has goes down to staff as well. And the what's what's established in place in the city. And I think the DRB is super lucky with the resources that they have more so than in some other municipalities. OK. Other questions, just a quick one. I believe that when you run the DRB, you had a young child. Yes, that's right. It's slightly less young now. Well, it's older now. Yeah, yeah, it happened. How do you have more time to spend? I do have, I think, more time to have anything. Yeah, OK, that's what I was going to ask. Yeah, he's now nine. Yeah. I know there was one time you couldn't come because somebody was sick. OK, well, that's a nice, deep cut. He didn't doesn't hold it against. You see, he's got notes. Yeah, memory. Yeah, something like that first. How often do you have to recuse yourself or did you? Yeah, so I would say once in a while. Yeah, certainly just based on my profession, acutely aware of that. And Paul was on staff at that time as well. So, you know, have long conversations with, you know, when would be appropriate times. And if anything, probably aired more on the side of caution. But, you know, I'd say a handful of times if I had to put a percentage on it in 10 to 15 percent of applicants, I'd say maybe even less than that. OK. Other. Yes, Tyler, you're in a unique position having been in this role previously. What's the most important thing that you learned from your previous time on the D.R.B.? Yeah, right. I think looking at things in their entirety, so like many of these are complex things that are made up of many composite parts, like large projects like hillside at O'Brien, right, where there's we were talking tonight about mitigation efforts for trees that were removed, that perhaps that that wasn't something that was there. It wasn't something that was required, right? So you're always on when you're on the L.D.R. is that outside of my purview. So I think finding the moments where your interpretation is necessary to help the process versus trusting what council and other requisite inputs have have done to draft L.D.R.s. There's a reason that they're written the way they are. So I think respecting those first and foremost and finding that balance of when it's appropriate to inject your opinion and when it's appropriate to rely on the L.D.R.s. Any other questions? We'll get the inside scoop, I guess. All right, do you have any questions for us or anything we should, in addition, know about you? I don't think so. Yeah, I think having some experience in residential real estate, I think, brings a good lens to look on some of these aspects, too, where it's something that I'm dealing with on a daily basis. So I'm hearing needs and wants of my neighbors and general populace and clients and folks that I work with that live in our community. Do you think the amount of growth in South Burlington is about right or should we be doing more or should we be doing less? Yeah, so that's a really important question. I don't think it could be overstated and this is a bigger problem, I think, throughout the United States and certainly within Vermont and certainly within South Burlington as well, but the lack of housing stock is substantial. And I don't see a really short-term way out of it and I think even the growth that we see now is not going to be significant enough to meet the demands that are there. So I don't think it's incumbent upon South Burlington specifically to fill all those needs within our larger community. So I'd lean towards, I think we're around the appropriate amount of growth. I think thinking really smartly about can we be dense with growth where it should be dense and understanding that this is one of the more populous towns within Chittenden County as well so and that the decisions we make impact our greater community. I'm outside of our city boundaries. So again, having density where it makes sense about respecting nature or ecology and understanding long-term consequences of our actions. One last question, since you're the condo guy. So do you find, I mean, Tyler was saying earlier that he doesn't really think people want to live in high-rises and condos and stuff. What is your experience? Pardon me? High-rise, pardon me. Okay, but some of the high-rises are condos, are they not? Yeah, yeah, there's some.  So are you finding people kind of disappointed that that might be the only thing they can find in South Burlington?  So one being from a market perspective, like this may not meet requirements to fall within inclusionary zoning or receive grants or subsidies for folks, but from a realistic standpoint of folks either getting onto that housing ladder or perhaps their middle income providing opportunities kind of on every level of that scale. I think what's one of the bigger challenges is it's really hard for people to get onto that first rung. So oftentimes people will have a starter home and sometimes that's a condo along Kennedy Drive for folks and that allows them to build up the equity to roll that over and do a home if they decide to grow a family or not or just have a different style of housing. But having availability to get into the housing market, I think is really critical. And then having options on top of that. So I think diversity of housing is really important. I think where that, where it makes sense to be most dense, those types of mid-rise apartment condo style living make a lot of sense. We are seeing just anecdotally from the demand I see more folks that are thinking about aging in place or coming back to Vermont. And that's like a style of living that they like. But of course, certainly there's demand for beautiful larger single family homes in South Burlington as well. All right. Yes, you do question? Oh, thank you. All right, so if you're set, we're set. Excellent, thank you so much for your time and your work. Thank you for your interest in returning. It's a lot of, the DRB is a lot of work. You sure you're ready? It's a blast, yeah. We're set, thank you so much for a great evening. Thank you. Theodor Linsky, he's online. Ted, so you wanna turn on your video or just show it? All right, well welcome. Thank you very much. Okay, so tell us a little bit about yourself. You've been on the library board, so you've at least been involved in South Burlington quite extensively on the library, I might add, so that's good. So I moved to South Burlington in 2020 and I've transitioned now from full-time work into a part-time consultant work for the last three years when I moved up to South Burlington. And my work before was leading large manufacturing operations. I was a site director for a 500-person operation with environmental regulations developed with contract negotiations. And I'm an engineer by degree, so my strength is in critical thinking and analysis of data. And I think part of my transition is I was, when I was in the leading manufacturing side, my license to operate that manufacturing side came from the community. And if I didn't have the community support and I didn't have the credibility within the community, my license to operate really doesn't exist and I need to earn that trust of the community. And now I'm in a part-time role in still in the manufacturing field, but in a part-time role, I feel it's my duty to kind of now get engaged with the community that I used to be a part of in my professional career. And getting involved in a library board being a part of the vice chair now, the library was the treasurer library being involved in my homeowner's association where I live. I value of bringing the skill set that I have a problem in collaboration, critical thinking, and interpretation of information and bringing that together. And I think potentially that fits well with the DRV. I do not have experience on a development review board. I don't. But I think bringing that allows me to boil things down to a very core issue, interpret those regulations as I used to have to interpret environmental regulations and a lot of other things as part of running my manufacturing site. So I'm able to listen to people when you have 500 people working for you, you have a lot of differences of opinion, a lot of perspectives, and you're able to bring that together to try and make a decision efficiently, pragmatically, but listening to everyone. So that's why I'd like to bring to a, probably maybe a more unique perspective to the DRV. Okay, thank you. Questions? So Ted, do you have familiarity with our LDRs at all? I have looked at them. I have listened to a few of the past DRV meetings. I don't think that those, the regulations intimidate me as I get more intimate with them. I think I'll be able to understand them and look to the other board members and other people to assist with that. But I also think I can bring a perspective and evaluation of that that can work together well with others in a collaborative way to evaluate the needs of the community appropriately and the needs of the city and the needs of all involved. Yeah, I have a question. Hi, Ted. So one of the nice things about the DRV is when there's a sort of a diversity of backgrounds, you know, some are technical, some are less technical, but they might come from a perspective of being aesthetic appreciation for design and things like that. Would you be bringing any special aesthetic interpretation where you can apply that in decisions on the DRV? Yeah, I think clearly through my years of experience with design of equipment and design of manufactured facilities in a community. My manufacturing, I came from the Baltimore area. So I was part of an urban renewal aspect of the Baltimore area. So my experience is industrial, my experience is in the chemical industry, but I also do believe that it can apply across different disciplines. I just think it brings a perspective when you look at people who may be architects and people who may understand urban planning more, but if you bring people together who can interpret drawings, interpret regulations and work collaboratively and try to make sure you're very clear as to what your expectations are and clearing your interpretations and listening to people, I think you can be successful that way. Thank you. Other questions? Do you have any questions for us or anything we should know about you that you haven't shared with us yet? No, again, my career now is I have the time and the ability right now with winding down from my active lifestyle to a more of a part-time lifestyle. I want to continue to use my knowledge and use my energy levels that I've had for 33 years in the industry and try and use that in an effective way. And as a volunteer in the community, I've put that a lot into a library board and to my HOA and I want to continue to find opportunities to do that and have the time and patience, I think, to deal with that as well. Let me ask you one of the same questions. What's your feeling about the sense of the amount of development in the city of South Burlington? One of the reasons we moved to South Burlington was the sense of community it was present but also just we like the idea of what we saw in the area compared to what we've seen in other parts. And I think a little bit to what the early person said, it's really, you want the options, you want the ability for people of different diverse backgrounds to feel comfortable when they think of South Burlington, whether that may be in a small single family home or in a development that we're trying to build on Market Street. I think you really want the ability to try and have all that, to draw in a wide variety of people who would be interested in living in South Burlington. And it's not, we don't want to narrow it down to one type of people. We want to be open to a lot of other people that feel comfortable in the city. So having that optionality and that diversity and housing and that diversity in open space, I think is really what we're trying to find that right balance. If we can get to that right balance and respect others and listen to all those other things and I think it's there, I think it's doable. I think with your efforts of leadership, leadership of all other great committees around, and as I've been engaged with the people who've been extremely friendly to someone coming into the area, I think that's one of the missions that I'm one of the goals I see. So I feel very good about. Okay, thank you. All right, well, thank you very much for applying and your interest in giving back even more to the community. So I appreciate that. All right, thank you, council. Appreciate it. Thanks, Dan. And we have John Muscatelli, we did, have you heard enough? I think we've, Yeah, we probably, I probably should have said that early on because here you are sitting, but if we don't have any other questions in terms of his skill set for the DRB, then I think we don't have to hear from you again unless there's anything else you'd like us to hear. Okay. All right, well, we're gonna take a brief break and then we're gonna come back. We're gonna skip the orientation. Jesse will do that. I'm gonna speak to it really quickly. Just really quick. Real quickly, okay. Then I would like us to adopt the rules of procedure and policy quickly. Can we go to, when we come back. Can we go to traffic safety first? Can we go to 16 first after break because I know we have some people in the room and online who are waiting. Okay, we will do that. So we'll take a five minute break. Thank you. So that is school traffic. Yes. Okay, so I would like to call to order again the South Burlington city council meeting. What is it? March 20th, 2023. And we're going to move down to item 16, which is receiving a request from the school board on traffic safety. Do you guys wanna, are you presenting or are they on the, who is presenting this? Okay, sorry, too much going on. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's Tom. So Tom DiPiccio, our public works director and Erica Quallen, our deputy director of public works or capital projects are online for a little bit of context here. Some period of time ago, sorry. When was it? In February, the school board had a discussion about safety around our schools throughout the city and they provide the superintendent through them provided a memo to the council and me outlining their requests. Their requests require some technical analysis. So Tom and Erica have gone through that in detail and laid out in this attached memo, each item and the recommended next steps. In addition, there were, there was information that we received from CCRPC on Friday after this agenda was published about projects they are moving forward. So if it's the council's wish, Tom and Erica can walk through one by one, the items requested and our ability to meet those requests in the time required or we can proceed a different way. No, that sounds good. Is that all right with everyone? Now that everyone has their jacket on and they're warmed up. Okay, so Tom, do you want to start or Erica? I don't care who is in charge. No, I can jump in. Thank you council for having us this evening. For those that don't know me, Tom DiPietro, director of public works. So as Jesse said, we received a memo back in February. So we took some time to put together some responses. There were six bullet points in the memo. So in our response here, we've tried to tie the bullet points together. And if it pleases council, I'll just fix it. I'll go through those quickly. It's a three page memo. I'm assuming everybody had a chance to review it, but I'll kind of touch on some of the major points. So the first item was related to speed limits, reducing speed limits to 25 miles an hour in and around all schools and creating school zones. And so functionally, the way that is done, there needs to be an engineering analysis to modify a speed limit. That's from state statute. So we talk about that a little bit in our kind of point one A there. Did point out that the speed limit around schools at the moment, the tortured Rick Marcotte and Chamberlain schools is 25 miles an hour, but on Dorset Street, it is 35 miles an hour. So that's the only one that's not currently at 25. Establishing these school zones, the process for that is similar, but different. It just allows the engineer conducting the analysis to take into account some of the adjacent land uses like schools, housing, sidewalks, et cetera, as they recommend speed limits. Moving to the next bullet, there was a request for blinking radar signs in the area of the vicinity of the schools. These are those radar feedback signs that you've seen that have the speed limit posted and they tell the oncoming vehicles kind of what speed they're traveling. That is something we could certainly do. We have a recent quote because we are going to install one of these in the near future on White Street. And so we know the equipment's about $22,000 for each of these setups. So if that was council's wish, we could move forward with something like that in the different or around each different school. Item number three related to lighting. So in that instance, we provide some information about different lighting around the schools. Some of them have general purpose lighting like on Dorset Street. There's not a pedestrian scale type of lighting installed in this area. Certainly that's something we could also consider as a future capital project. We would wanna spend some time sort of looking into that and getting the right lighting design so that we didn't cause other problems. Just for example, shining lights into adjacent neighbors, windows, things like that, making sure we got that right. That is a certain another program that we could consider. Items four and five related to crossing guards at the schools. And certainly we can support that. I think the police department even offered to do some training for folks if crossing guards were put in place. And then finally, bullet six was considered the implementation of speed bumps. So as we conduct some of these studies around the schools, and if we were to find that vehicles are traveling too fast, speed bumps are certainly a way or a method we could use to reduce traffic speeds. It's one of many kind of strategies that could be implemented to reduce traffic speeds. And then lastly, I did wanna review sort of as Jesse mentioned in updates. So Erica in particular has been working quite closely with the Chittenden County Regional Planning Commission or CCRPC. They have been a great partner in our efforts to look into traffic issues like those described in the letter from school district. And so we were able to move some of these or get some timelines to provide to you at the meeting today. So I'm gonna run through a couple things quickly at the different schools. So first is Chamberlain School. As council knows, we've updated our speed resolution. And so we've adopted the first school zone in South Burlington a few months back. Like I said, we're just waiting for the hardware to get installed there around Orchard School. The RPC is agreed to do a technical assistance memo to look into the development of the school zone. It would be very similar to what they did at the Chamberlain School. And the plan is to complete that work by the end of July. Percentral School, very similar, just a little later timeframe. They've agreed to work on that with us over the summer into next school year. I don't have specific starter end dates for that one. Just to note an additional effort going on on Market Street near Central School. We are working again with RPC and consulted to do a traffic study and look at the intersections in this area. So that will evaluate the need for things like four way stops, traffic signals, and sort of a lot of that is based on traffic volumes as well. And so if we reach a certain traffic volume, those things are appropriate to be installed. And so this is gonna look at the whole city center area, but specifically near the school as well. Percentral School in that case. And finally, on Dorset Street near the middle and high school, we have our Dorset Street Signals Project. We're currently working with a contractor, ECI. They are doing some blorings, getting materials ready. So they're gonna conduct or put in place a number of traffic signal and pedestrian crosswalk improvements in that corridor on Dorset Street from Williston Road down to Kennedy Drive. It is our hope that installation of all of that is done by September. We're still waiting to hear on some delivery schedules for some of the masked poles and arms, which tend to be quite long. I hope to have an answer and a schedule from the contractor on that very soon. We also spoke with RPC about conducting a larger scoping study in the area on Dorset Street near the high school. And that is something that they could not fit into a current work plan. But they said that that would be a good project to put in a future one. So maybe not this coming when FY24, but perhaps FY25. So that's a very quick rundown of where we were at with a lot of these different things. And Erica, I don't know if you had anything, I went over too quickly or you wanted to add before I turn it back over. I think about covers, yeah. Okay, thank you. So we have some people here who would like to comment or not. She could have, she's not here, but if she was, I would happily call on her. Thank you for inviting us to speak tonight. My name is Alyssa McDonald. I'm the principal at Rick Markott Central School, your backyard neighbor. And Tom Stucey is here. He is a parent of a second grader at the school and Sue is the grandparent of another second grader at the school. And these two walk their children to school every day and come back at dismissal and pick up, well, Sawyer rides her bike, okay. And so these parents and caregivers have a lot of experience with the traffic flow and some of what happens on the way to and from school each day. So they've joined me. Thank you for considering the school's requests. I've been hearing from parents who get stuck on Market Street waiting to get into the school, especially at dismissal about some road rage incidents that happen mostly from parents that don't really understand, not parents, but mostly from community members or people just using Market Street who don't really understand that there's a traffic jam because parents are waiting to turn into the school driveway and pick up their children. And so I brought to the school board the concern that since it's not marked clearly as a school zone, I think people don't understand. So I'm really glad to hear that there's a traffic study and that the city will be responding to some of the requests that came from our superintendent. Our situation has moved from concerning to urgent with the construction next door. And first and foremost, I wanna say, I'm not here to complain. I'm here as a neighbor. I want us to work together. We share the section of Market Street, which is actually our driveway. I don't know, are you ever gonna call it School Street? I've heard somebody call it School Street before. I think that would make it a lot easier. I've been working with Chris Snyder and the site developer on communication around the construction. We did have a little glitch when they moved the sidewalk out a little earlier than expected. And that afternoon last Thursday, there was a lot of concern and chaos because our students lost a direct route to the school. So I, what I would like you to realize is my students who walk from Garden Street apartments have, they will have to cross the road five times to get to the school. And if students are coming from Hinesburg Road, they have to cross at that very dangerous intersection at the end of Market Street and Hinesburg Road. I hope that the traffic study is gonna result in some lights that help our students cross as part of the structure in the city. Like I said, I am working with Snyder and Chris Snyder and his company had offered to make a better path. There's a path at the edge of the construction site that goes from the Garden Street apartments directly to our sign. And that's been a grass path that children have used to get to school. If that path exists, eventually students coming from Hinesburg Road could walk down Garden Street and take the path directly to the school and they won't have to cross the street five times. But as our current situation is in about three weeks they're going to close the sidewalk on our driveway. And that will result in all of the crossing. Back to the path, Snyder Homes came, they submitted a plan to make a gravel path. But I think with all of the rules and the zoning and the environmental concerns, the gravel path can't be constructed without a few weeks or months of consideration. So they called me this afternoon and said they would be willing to put in a path or keep a path that would have woodchips and they see that they know that it's really urgent that they create this path. Today they watched us at Dismissal and this is what happens. I gather all of the students who are walking or riding bikes and they walk with me usually just to the end of the fencing but now I walk them to Market Street. Sue is standing in the middle of Market Street with her yellow vest stopping traffic to allow the group of students to cross the street and then she walks students on the other side of the street, the sidewalk that's available to us and the Garden Street residents have to cross, they have to cross one, they cross two times to get to their apartment and Sue helps them do that. Sue's just volunteered to do that. She just showed up and started doing that. In the morning, I've been out in the street, Sue then saw me there, now Sue kinda takes over so I can get back to school. So we really do need crossing guards and we will be working with the police department to get some training. I'm not trained, I just wear a big red coat and I stand there and so far people have not run over me. However, the biggest concern is that our students who walk to school and any student who lives within a half mile of a school has to walk. We don't send buses to their parts of the neighborhoods. They need a safe path to school first and foremost. We've gotta get our kids there safely.  Some of our students are walking in groups of two or more. I try to make sure that no student walks by themselves, but with the absence of the path, we really have to pay attention to safety. And so I just wanted to bring it to your attention so that you know and understand that we're really aware of the concerns we have about what's happening on Market Street. Concerns not about the construction, but about the road rage and some of the unsafe traffic behaviors that we're seeing that could potentially negatively impact our children. When the construction is completed, when Catamount Run is up and running, will there be a sidewalk for the children from Garden Street to? Yes, that sidewalk will be open again and then students can stay on one sidewalk all the way to the school without having to cross the street. And then I hope we can eventually get back to making that path more of a permanent path or maybe even eventually in the pie in the sky, maybe even a sidewalk, an actual sidewalk for those children to get from those apartments to the school. I also send teachers who go to Garden Street apartments to pick up preschool children who have to walk to school and whose parents might not be available because they're working or unable to walk their children. And so now it's just a longer path with a lot more street crossings for three and four year olds to have to navigate with adults. Megan, yeah. Tom, would it be possible for us to consider having local traffic only during this period of construction? And so for cars that truly are getting home or to the library or city hall, that that would be the only use for Market Street. I mean, I know there's no way to do it other than the honor system, but to have that be marked, no pass through traffic, only local traffic. Councilor Armand, I think you've hit on the issue there. We've been asked in the past to limit traffic on other streets, but we have no enforcement mechanism. I've chatted with our police officers on other issues, not this one specifically, but that is the issue, yeah. One thing that would help, Tom, and I don't know if you could look into this, but coming out of our parking lot, especially at the end of the day, if I could allow traffic to take a right and go around Allard Square and then out at the end of Mary Street, is that Mary Street? That would help a lot because all of the traffic wouldn't be heading in the same direction and ending up at that one intersection. And then if I have to cross students, if when I take students to the back of the library, they have to cross twice from this parking lot to the island, and then they have to cross through the exiting traffic at Drop Off and Dismissal. If that traffic didn't have to go back out onto Market Street by the construction site, if they could go around Allard Square and out to Dorset Street, that would alleviate some of that backup, and it would be safer for students to cross there. So I'm asking for at least two crossing guards for the major roads, and then I'm gonna have to take teachers and try to put them at the edges of our parking lot to make sure students go from the back of this building safely onto the school campus and onto a sidewalk. So are you asking for the city to hire the crossing guards, or is that a school budget function? That's a school budget function that hasn't been budgeted before because central school didn't seem to need them. Now as the new principal, I'm saying we need them. We haven't budgeted it before either. So we would ask the city, we would ask the police department for help training those individuals. And I think what we were hoping for is maybe to have some more support with the enforcement of what's happening with traffic and drivers who are impatient and angry. And I really think it's because they don't understand why traffic is stopped and if they can find an opportunity to cut through a parking lot or pass a number of cars to get to where they're going, then they make that bad decision. And I'm just worried that they're not gonna see a tiny person trying to cross. The other thing that Sue's been really helpful with is she's actually out there helping the buses make that left turn toward Heinsberg Road. Buses get stuck there. If we could just alleviate all of that traffic jam, that would alleviate the stress on Market Street as well. Tim? Yeah, I noticed today when I was leaving City Hall and I wanna take a left off of School Street on the Market Street that the new fencing has opaque cloth and I can't see down Market Street. So immediately, I mean, could Snyder-Braverman at least pull down or put up transparent fencing or whatever the covers they put because a driver has to be able to see if somebody's coming right now. It's totally blocked unless you pull way it out into the intersection. That's one thing I noticed today which is not safe. Yeah? I just wanted, I did call them about that this morning I noticed it as well. They put that fence up last week so I'll be discussing that again with them tomorrow because it does restrict the sight line to the left. Okay, and the second thing is I always worry about parking on the inside of the curve headed from Dorset Street towards the entrance to the school and even when we're having meetings here, right? And I know people go faster than I do. I'm just wondering whether we should suspend parking on the inside of that curve for the time being until we have a better understanding about the traffic flow. Is this on School Street? No, no, no, this is right on Market Street. Oh, right on Market Street. As you're approaching City Hall, the road curves to the right and you cannot see people getting out of their cars very easily and you can't see what's going on at the intersection down there either. And then finally, you also have an egress onto Williston Road. I can grant that it's at the edge of the property of your school but it used to be used a long time ago. Besides the possible egress behind Allard, the Allard Building, is it possible that you might want it for people that want to turn right only onto Williston Road? I don't know if that's safe but is that another possibility? Yeah, that's more like an emergency. Egress is really not a structured road and that would be having traffic drive right past the kindergarten classrooms and being able to look into the classrooms. But just for drop-off. Well, just for drop-off. Yeah, I mean, you could control it. On Williston Road at that point, I've tried to take a walk over to Starbucks at that point and it's really impossible to, I would worry about causing another traffic problem on that side. I did want to let you know that I talked to Chris Snyder about that corner as well and he thinks that they can make like a 45 degree angle instead of having it come out so sharply and into the, actually it covers most of the intersection where people need to stop before crossing. And so maybe cutting that corner back a little bit would help with a line of sight when you're at that road. Sue was suggesting that maybe we don't let traffic park on the side of the library because that- I was thinking people are navigating on the road and walking along in my street. Right. And the same thing, the parking that was down to the school but so narrow. I thought at one point also, somebody raised the issue that it was difficult for the buses to navigate that and get out without snow or construction just getting out. And I have to say, I was really surprised because we had transportation specialists. My understanding was when we were doing all the stuff with the development of the stormwater, we had, we were very sensitive and the school hired and we paid for, I suspect, a consultant so that the way the buses go around was gonna be a real improvement. And I was kind of blown away that that didn't include apparently the width of School Street. So the buses come out and there's cars parked on both sides and if there's two things going in there almost isn't enough room. So if that, and maybe it's part of the bump outs that are supposed to slow everyone down. I'm just wondering if that planning was faulty and we need to rethink what School Street looks like and whether there's parking there. If the buses can't come out and take a right or a left. Whether it's parking on School Street or whether it's parking on Market Street. Well, School Street, because this was an issue that they were complaining buses couldn't get out of the parking lot or make the turn to come in. And I was kind of like, huh, we had really spent a lot of money and time planning this. And I don't know what, where the issue was, but it's concerning to me that it isn't working. And that's really unfortunate and it's now with that construction not only a pin in the neck that they can't really turn the buses very well, but there's a safety issue because there isn't room for kids and bikes and buses and parking. And I'm sorry, Helen, but School Street is the road that we're referring to. Well, it isn't really named that, but it's the one next to the library that goes into the school. Yeah. And we have a parking on that. There's parking on both sides. Both sides. Up to the school sign. Yeah, I'm sorry. And there's two bump outs to sort of slow people down, which I understand, but I'm just wondering if we should revisit that. Not have the bumps and maybe at least during construction not have the parking. Design has met reality. Yes. Well, yeah, you know, it reminds me of in the state house when they redesigned the cafeteria. I don't know who the heck designed it, but it was horrendous. And it was supposed to be really good and it's a bottleneck, so it does happen. Yes. I would just remind the council that that is prime parking for our seniors who come to the senior center. So we can certainly look at taking it away, but I think some kind of shared use hour solution might be better. Because I think the council may receive a different kind of problem if we don't take it away. There is some parking behind, but a lot of folks use that parking. Yeah, but I agree that the times no parking between this hour and this hour makes sense, my fill. Yeah. What are the hours? Well, I guess, yeah, what are the prime hours where you have issues in the morning and the afternoon, but what hours? In the afternoon, I would say between 2.15 and 2.45. We have parents who are coming to school getting ready for the drop off. It'd be interesting for somebody to observe what's happening around 2.30. What's the morning time? The morning time is between 7.45 and 8.15. Oh, nice commuting rush hour time. I should drive through there. That's where the road rage comes in because they only have five minutes to jump their kid off and then they'll get to work. Pardon? I think a site visit is required. I think it's more controlled in the morning. It feels less chaotic in the morning. However, when we have to start to use the back of this building to bring kids onto our campus and that will happen in three to four weeks when they close the other sidewalk. You'll see the students navigating. It's gonna be more complicated with all of the parents going around the maze, the maze of that school parking lot and having now also to watch out for students who might be, you know, who need to go across. I won't let students cross there without adults. But I think it would be a really nice solution would be for them to be able to take a right and go out around Allard Square. Just for this time being when the construction is really impacting the traffic flow in and out of our campus. Do they need permission from the Allard Square owners to do that? Yeah. Yes. Lisa and I were corresponding a bit about this today and really appreciate you always your tone of partnership and neighborliness. Thank you for that. You're welcome. A lot of what we're talking about here is incredibly important to our citywide security and our young people security, but it's not actually things that require council action. So I think the bet, I guess I would recommend or ask you if this was acceptable. You know, you and I talked today about meeting together to make sure the city and the developer and the school are kind of on the same page and pulling in the same direction. So I think if we did, if we worked on that approach for the next couple of weeks with Tom and Erica and your team, and then there are some budget requests in this memo. And as we finalize those details and understand what it looks like on the ground with the school team, I think at a future meeting we could come back with those council requests. And if we need to do any temporary no parking or things like that that we can't do within our current authority. The Snyder Homes team can meet as soon as tomorrow. Would we be able to put something together tomorrow? I would look to Tom and Erica's schedules. I can send an email in the morning and we can connect. And I'm forming a committee. Sue's agreed to be on it. I'm appointing Tom to be on it. It's pretty much said yes. We're here to chair Tom. There will be students on the committee as well. Because students have a voice in there, they're a little concerned about the longer walk home for those littles, it really is a lot longer to go this other way. So, and I would really appreciate the partnership and the neighborly connection. I think that's really important for our community and it's good role modeling for our students. So that they can see how people can work together to find a solution instead of just being mad and complaining. It's about finding the solution together. So thank you for having us here tonight. Well, thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you so much. We're so late. Monica Otsby is online and also wanted to make a statement. Okay. Hi there. And before Alyssa goes, I just wanted to pass on a little interesting factor that many moons ago, the planning commission actually approved a motion in terms of naming the street there. They plant the planning commission approved a motion for the school to choose. And perhaps the students to be involved with choosing the name of that street. So Paul Connor would have that information and it was from years ago. That's really interesting. Is that true? Can we? It's a true motion. Paul Connor will know. McDonald Avenue. McDonald Avenue, there we go. There you go. Alyssa Lane. Oh, that's deep down. Alyssa Lane. Okay. So my comment has to do with the high school area. There are two and I witnessed a near accident. I really don't want to have to revisit in my brain. But I, there are two crosswalks right across from between across Dorset in front of the high school. And one of them in particular is not at a light. It's very, very dangerous, especially at dismissal when again traffic there is crazy. There are pedestrian flashing lights on either side. But the cars that are particularly really either heading north or south in the, not next to the sidewalks or the inner lanes, they cannot see the flashing lights when there are cars blocking and they can't see the kids walking onto the lane. So I had to pull my car out as I witnessed a very fast moving truck, not see a student, high school student. And at the last minute I had to pull my car over to get the truck to stop before it would have just run over a high school student going across the sidewalk. So my ask is when you're looking at the other measures, is there anything you can do and maybe anywhere in the city, if there is a road that's more than a lane on each side, like at Kennedy Drive, where the new crossing went in, is there a flashing light in the center of the road as well or there's something there? But it seems like there should also be a flashing light in the middle of the road. If it's more than two lanes. So if there's two lanes on either side, in this case it's two lanes plus, because there's also a turning lane there that's very confusing. So if, and I know that's more complicated because that's just a street that's painted, but can you also please look at that? Because it's very unsafe. But I really appreciate all the other stuff that you're looking at doing. It's a big change from our first conversation. So I'm really grateful. Great, thank you. Thanks. Okay, yes. Yes, so can you just, can you put the mic in her direction so the people online can hear us? Thank you. Can we, I'm not sure who to speak to at this point, but there's now a crosswalk on Market Street that is not valid. And it's a one by Garden Street on this side. So it's on before you cross Garden Street. So it's a crosswalk that goes directly into where the fence is. And I had two little boys the other day go running across. And of course it's a dead end. And what I'm concerned about is if you get somebody elderly or, you know, handicapped. So is there a way to- Oh, we should have a sign closed. We take the sign off. Crosswalk closed. Like sidewalk closed. Sidewalk closed, yeah. Because the kids are using it and then they're getting to a dead end. Yeah. Thanks, Sue. And I can't believe I forgot this because this was gonna be my big ask. And maybe this is an ask for Tom and Erica. Instead of having our students cross five times to get onto our campus, I was wondering if we could make a temporary crosswalk from the corner of the library to our school sign. And that would eliminate two more crossings. If the students got to the edge of this building and then crossed over to the school sign, then they could continue on the sidewalk right to the school door instead of coming behind the library and crossing behind the road that goes to Allard Square and then again into the school parking lot. I didn't know if a temporary situation could be set up there. And that would cause me to have to place fewer personnel out there because I could have one person man that corner. Is that within our purview too? Maybe I need Tom and Erica to help with that. Can I just clarify this? I think, oh. We should probably take a look at that when we're out there tomorrow. Because I am a little concerned. I'm hearing that this path that was, in my mind, an important piece of the plan to get students to school safely on the north side of the construction site is not there as well. So I guess it was my understanding that Snyder had worked with folks to school up to develop a plan that included these crossings I think we're referring to now. And so if we want to make adjustments to that, that's perfectly reasonable, but we should probably all get together as city managers suggested and kind of do that all together at once. Okay, so I'll set that up. Did you have a question or? Tom and I were thinking the same way. Right, okay. Yes, Mr. Royer, right? Brian Doyle. So when I moved to South Burlington in the pandemic, I started working as a substitute teacher in the school district. So I've walked and biked to all of the schools in question, though mostly worked and coached at the middle school. When we're looking at some of these things like when Tom mentioned the MUTCD recommendations when we're talking about Dorset Street specifically, you know, if we take, if we test the speed of vehicles and then we take the 85th percentile and we have a five mile per hour buffer, we're not gonna get anywhere near 25 miles per hour because Dorset Street is a road. It was constructed in standards that are supposed to help cars move as fast as possible. So generally people are actually exceeding the speed limit already, even at the 85th percentile. And so when we look at these old manuals that only get slowly updated from a long time back, we don't really achieve the kind of complete streets that we're looking for that's already stated in our current plan with more vague language. But even as we go forward, and when we get into the situation here with the school, we feel like we're kind of weighted on our back foot, like we weren't really prepared for this. And that does go back into what transportation engineers are actually doing the design, their level of training and the scrutiny of our eyes on those plans to really account for the full needs of our entire population. Thanks. Thank you. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks for your patience tonight too. Yes, I appreciate it. And Sue, thank you for your, for volunteering. Yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you. You get the grandma of the year award. The year award. Thank you, Tom and Erica. We're gonna skip, oh, you wanted to say a few things about 13 and then we're gonna adopt, I hope, 14 and 15. Do we have to do 12 too? No, because we, we've held option. We're getting some changes. Okay. Or a change. So number 12, you provided that direction to Paul about fine-tuning the language and bring it back to you. So on 13 and mostly for folks who may be watching this later, I have a lovely 47 slide presentation I would like to now walk through. Yeah. It's very important and critical to how we function as a group for the next year. But my suggestion would be it's on there, it's public information, folks can see it. And then with Councilor Chomak and Council Barnes's permission, I will set up some one-on-one meetings with you to talk through any questions you have and kind of some operational things in the next week or two and we can skip the 47 slides tonight. I'd probably prefer to go through it all right now. Thanks, that's great. More to come on that. But then moving to, can I keep going? Yes, please. So 14 and 15 are the adoption of the Council rules of procedure and the adoption of the conflict of interest and ethics policy. Those are exactly the same as the Council adopted last year with just dates and names changed. These are policies that are based on the Vermont League of Cities and Towns model policies outline how this Council has functioned historically and our code of ethics, not only for the Council but all groups appointed by the Council. You want a motion to adopt them right now? So I think it's very important for the Councils each year to adopt them so they fully understand what's in them. Can we move to adopt them both at the same time? Sure. I move that we adopt the City Council rules of procedure and the conflict of interest and ethics policy for elected and appointed officials. Second. Okay, any discussion? Just make sure you read them. All in favor? Aye. Aye. And lived by them. And lived by them, right. Okay, so now we move down to item 17. This is the supporting an application to the Department of Energy for funding to develop a statewide plan to get to a residential energy code enforcement system. So this was a request from Donna Laban that asked us to sign onto this. We have actually been listed as a project sponsor on this state. So this is an application the state is putting in to the Department of Energy to explore a statewide plan for residential energy, energy code education and enforcement. I think this is very much aligned with the Council's policy to date. So this is just your formal action to consider signing onto that resolution and authorize Helen to sign on your behalf a letter of support. Okay, so there wasn't a letter included. So we just, I didn't see a letter that Helen would sign in here. Not a letter in your agenda. There's a letter that Helen or Donna sent over on Friday. Okay. Is that how that happened, this one? Yes. So you sent it to you? Mr. Faisy. Yeah, it just basically says we support, okay, their application. So is there a, would you like to read it? Do you need to read it? Anybody? I would probably abstain only because I'm not familiar with any of them. We don't really have abstentions. Well, if you vote, yeah, we have abstentions. And it's not because I don't support it. I just, I don't feel as though it'd be prudent for me to say one way or the other without being a little bit more familiar with the bill. But I don't want that to hold anything up. Well, they need it by the 25th, so. Well, you could just have a vote with. Yes. Okay, so are those who, I'll make the motion. Make the motion so I can sign this so we can get it done. We support an application to the Department of Energy for funding to develop a statewide plan to get a residential energy code enforcement system. I second. Any further discussion? All in favor? Signified by saying aye. Aye. Aye. And with one abstention because of not familiarity with this, yeah, okay. Great, so it passes. And I am signing it as I speak. Here we go. Thank you. I move on to, I'd entertain a motion to convene as the South Wellington Liquor Control Commission. So moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. So we are now the Liquor Control Commission and we've got, I don't know how many, a gazillion. No, this is part of it. It's cruel because we don't listen to the fun part. We authorize the beer, we don't get any beer. So just by a few sentences on orientation here and our city clerk is online as well. She is the one who oversees this process. So the council's role, how this community has handled the Liquor Control Board before is as applications come in, we review them against tax records around permit records and against public safety records. And if they are clear in all of those things, they come to you for approval. If there are any that are flagged for any of those reasons, we would flag them for you. But unless you hear otherwise from me being on your agenda means that they are cleared all of our internal review. And there's a whole new process this year that Donna can explain to you. Donna sent us a letter outlining it. That went to everyone. Yes. You recall reading it? Okay. Thank you, Donna. That was helpful. I don't recall seeing it. We got it yesterday, day before. Is it in your packet? I think it was. It's in the packet? Or Donna sent it directly. I think she sent it. It should be in the packet. Oh, okay. Yeah, I thought it was. All right. Yeah. Oh, this. Okay. Yes. Okay. So do you have any comments, Donna? Or thoughts? Just that it is a new system. You're used to getting everything was done on paper. Yeah. And you saw a lot more data than you used to see. And the state has now gone to an online system and they've taken over the fact that someone can't skip something on an application which sometimes you as a liquor control board would catch. They can't go through the steps and process and submit it until they've answered everything. So the state's kind of eliminated them for getting to fill out a section. And then the state has taken over some of the followup that we used to do. So they've like whether they took the liquor control courses, if it wasn't outlined before you was looked at the control board might say something and deny it, the state has taken on that responsibility. So really your role as reviewers is less than it used to be. Which is nice. Yeah. Is there any fees, do they pay for a liquor license? It depends. A second class will pay $70 to the city. The first class will pay 115. A third class pays nothing to the city and outside consumption pays nothing to the city. Do we get to keep that even though it's now automated by the state in a sense? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good. Raise the prices. Yeah. Let's open some more bars. Probably the lowest charging city of the state. Okay, this could balance the budget. Yeah, our budget is balanced. Okay, thank you. So I would entertain a motion to approve all of the listed first, second, and third, I think, yeah, and third class licenses. As presented. Second. As presented, yeah. Got a motion and a second. Are there, is there any questions or concerns or anything? All right. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. So that's pretty much it for today for the public to be watching us anyway. We're going to, there's no other business. So we should end, we're gonna enter an executive session so we can discuss the appointments to the planning commission and the development committee or the development review board. We will not be coming back. We will make decisions on that, excuse me, and they will be announced tomorrow. So how I would recommend we do this is the council discusses an executive session, makes recommendations for appointment. Given the, especially the sensitivity of the planning commission appointments that we notify those candidates that they've been appointed tomorrow, and then have you ratify those appointments at your next council meeting. Oh, okay. But also notify people who weren't. And notify people who weren't. Yes, of course. And encourage them to apply again. Yes, cause we'll have 39 or whatever coming up. Coming up, 39. All right, so I would like a motion so we can go into executive session. So moved. Second. For the purpose of discussing appointments to. So it's been made and seconded. Do we invite you in? Yeah, along with our city manager. So all in favor, signified by saying aye. Aye. Motion carries. We're not coming back. And we're not coming back. That's all she wrote. So good night, folks.


Um So here's the next thing though. We got to talk about man BTS to do military service in South Korea All right one This is crazy. I'll do a quick little reading for some of y'all who don't know for the one BTS is a massive K-pop band I first learned about them probably like 10 years ago at this point And they just been killing it and finally crossed over hit a whole whole another level for a k-pop music By like within the last like two three years Getting awards above American artists in American award shows stuff like that, right? So here's the article the seven members of BTS one of the world's biggest bands will perform military service in their native South Korea Their agency has said ending a long national debate over whether they should receive an exemption while many fans of the k-pop sensations were hoping the band members would be giving special consideration due to their contribution to the South Korean economy and International prestige the artists will serve almost two years in the military Long time. That's a long time. And I know you have some thoughts about that So I'm gonna let you go off on it. Yeah, so my first reaction to it was I was like, man I kind of hold their elbows up, you know saying and dip and I was like nah The South Korean government probably don't play and I actually think that article goes in detail about a couple other South Korean celebrities who tried to kind of escape it. Oh, really? Yeah, they talk about, um I think it's a composer or something they talk about with like the guy Tried to get out of it by getting US citizenship and then as soon as he as soon as he touched foot back in South Korea They got them, right? They set them up But I had a conversation with uh with Sam the other day and Sam it was weird because I was like man This is like terrible for them like bro They're gonna be taken away like you said that the the peak of their career They're just on like super super crossover and he was like nothing's gonna be great for him And I was like why he's a brother think about that comeback album like when they drop it He said that's just gonna be massive and I was like and I was like man goes back to last week's conversation of Building up a narrative brother like building up a really strong narrative.  They're not gonna let them get touched They're not putting me nothing.   That's a whole nother number Still a lot, right? That's still a lot that you know, but still three three billion Let me let's see if we can do you remember the exact number? It seems like two three billion and this was like a while ago when we had a concert there I'm sure it's growing by now and then plus bro. Like if something happened to be tears, bro Like k-pop fans everywhere. We're right. I got it. So it says Well, how BTS is adding an estimated five billion to the South Korean economy And it's not just them right because you know, you want to think of the government Well, why does the government as a whole especially if the GDP is still one one trillion like five billion is big But what is that to one trillion? Well, actually that is actually very small percent that that is a significant number Yeah, five percent of a trillion. Yeah, true. You know, that's probably more like point five Yeah, you are It is significant and You gotta think about the people who are the primary benefactors from that. Yeah So somebody's losing money. Yeah, like big money. Let's just say they're record label I don't know their full situation. Let's just say it's their record label and they're getting bank Of course because they're directly related to it.  I don't know. I'm making up another that person And also to have that kind of money you got some clout within the pop political landscape Yeah, that person will a man.  Okay, I get it.  But like you said, we can't we can't we gotta keep them safe We gotta keep them safe and the fans gonna fight for it Well, I mean it didn't really work so far, but I just I that's what I think but something seriously happens to them But K-pop fans were right, but that was something that happened is like last week that I feel like every couple of weeks Something happens to remind me how crazy like K-pop fans really are but they were like On Twitter like spasm because I think it was like a BTS Spotify Somebody noticed like a BTS Spotify was running or something like that and like they're like, oh, you know that Why is this ad running? You know I'm saying like so they didn't like that BTS had ads running Yeah, was it like oh, this is an organic type? Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it was And so that fans are so but it's like their fans lose it as something as small as that, bro If something serious were to happen to them It would be crazy like I would I generally feel like that would be enough to start like I Don't know but like something like what's the car one like a mini silverware. There we go silverware There we go.  It's like going to jail Yeah, you're right. That's a good point Damn, that's a great point And you don't gel is practically a rollout plan sometimes and you don't get the negative stigma that's attached to going to jail. Your record is good. You know Sam Damn, that's a good point But I did see like what's the lead member Because I think they're they're they're not all going at the same time I think they're they all have like different points where they're gonna start because the oldest member the lead member He's not starting his sentence and or not sentence, but he's He's not starting his his service term until he drops his solo project and like I'll talk what it is I tell sometimes this month. I think it's like a couple weeks You know, maybe Let us get it your own about them, you know, well somebody The people around them they got some power like a man again y'all messing up that vest man Let us go ahead and exploit to the fullest as much as we can And so we can play and continue to manage this asset as much as possible. So please bro. Let's put the album out first Please let's put the album out first. I wouldn't be surprised if they started doing um Like some not br. What's the word? Not not not virtual hologram type shows Like crazy stuff. I hope not. I really hope not. I wouldn't be surprised. I don't much rather than do a live stream concert Maybe drop some kind of game, you know experience or something something that They keeps it like just popping and maybe they have A day a special event during right? So y'all in the service But y'all had this one special day to do like you said a live stream concert because them BTS I can't remember. Oh man, like bts. They've been ahead so long Remember it was during the pandemic. They were doing virtual shows. Yeah, you're right. Yeah campaign Yeah, that was killing it Like I think it was like it was at least 100 million for for um, let me see I could find this real quick virtual concert Money 2020 and I'm calling it now when they drop their first picture of them in their uniforms That's you're gonna break the internet. I'm calling it now. It's gonna be facts.  It's crazy It's 30 million a day for people who bad at math Like come on wait and oh snap. I don't even think this was this is actually not during the pandemic Oh, this is like recent or something. This says march 16 2020 Yeah There was a pandemic, right? Oh my bad. Yeah, no, I messed up 2022. Okay. Okay. That's all that weight Yeah, but yeah, so 2022 so I imagine maybe the concert was a few days before that or something But but yeah, so this this year, but I would keep that shit up too Because whatever they did during the pandemic, let's see if I can see the pandemic number Pandemic number real quick. All right, but I need to just go ahead and pre-record a bunch of concerts playing some live dates I'm saying get that last couple of fan meeting grease and Maybe drop a new merch line. They might as well go and cash out bro It's gonna be a no, I don't think it'll be a rough two years, but it's gonna be interesting I send them in the bro so many hours about to finally get a chance to like shoot to the top You know saying get to really compete. That's a big power player been taking out the game, bro. Oh, yeah Hey fashion bro come get your Hey, man. Take advantage. The competition is gone. I know somewhere. It's all these k-pop boy bands like yes Finally a chance. All right. So this they had a huge revenue from BTS It's two-day virtual concert is drawing attention. I should start saying these sources and everything So this is all k-pop. All right. It looks like a k-pop red or something Or maybe it's a reddit thread with k-pop branding, but big hit entertainment revealed that a total of 993,000 people logged into BTS's concert map of soul one During the two days of the concert. So 993,000 over two two days Considering the minimum ticket price is 49 49,500 krw. I don't know what currency that is. You know, y'all put some game in the chat on that Yeah That's what I do know the company has earned more than 50 billion krw's All right, which is let's see what the ui us revenue I need to know man. I gotta hit google real quick. I need to know Yeah 50 billion krw's. Let's see if we can get that in revenue. I think oh It's saying I think it's saying 43 million u.s revenue. Maybe I don't know Yeah, I think it's that's a weird In an invitation, but I think it's saying 43 million 43 500 million k What hold up 43 million 500 000 plus It's something like that. Yeah, all right And excuse us for trying to figure it out But these numbers are massive and if y'all don't know about BTS y'all should really follow them because they're amazing at their brand experience the way they've been using apps Live streaming and which I don't quite understand why people aren't live streaming like they like You thought would have happened during the pandemic. Yeah, people are like, whew Made it out of that. Let's go back to these shows. Yeah, y'all are really still missing out on additional Revenue like Duckworth where you at, bro?   She didn't even know who you were and she was like I'll go watch another one of these things. That was like a date for me, you know in the house For real, bro. Like for real I'm just saying man, like these live streams they could go somewhere creatively if you keep Like like people need to turn those. It's just another experience. It's another experience. That's another experience, bro It's another experience, but you don't have to deal with as much of liability. Nobody gonna throw a phone at you Nobody gonna go phone at you unless you planted it within the live stream, you know what I'm saying Like they might throw the phone because your live stream is bad, but Like that as an additional revenue stream Like it only asks especially if you make it an experience something that's legitimately dope Which in a couple of weeks, I want to talk about rihanna's uh Fashion show because I think it comes out in a couple of weeks and I know you still haven't watched one yet, right? No Shit is hard We're gonna wait to talk about intergalactic till then too because I think I watched that too Episode to package We're starting to think episodes people y'all give us some some some thoughts man We're gonna theme these episodes and talk about certain topics, but bts man. Shout out to y'all You know free bts As jacquaria said y'all sentence in the military


What's going on, everyone? Sam here with Leighton Sports Cards. I've been 23. Penny-certified football hobby, 4 box break, number 37. Pick your team style. List of our names and our teams, Brandon H. Raven, Brett W. Commanders, Christian B. Seahawks, Cody W. Steelers, Colin C. Chiefs, Corey G. Packers, Chargers, Daniel F. Titans, Daniel M. Bucks, David B. with the Panthers, Glenn W. with the Bears, Cowboys, Jets, and Niners, Greg E. Bills, Joel G. Texans Brown's Raiders, Keith B. with the Broncos, Kevin M. Lyons-Dolphins, Laurence D. Bangles, Matthew F. Falcons, Mike C. Colton-Eagles, Nicholas U. Saints, Roy C. Cardinals, Patriots, Giants, Ryan G. with the Rams, Stephen J. Jags and Vikings. So good luck here, everybody. Let's do it. Sweatified. Sweatified. OK, here we go. Miles Garrett, gold team. That is Blue Auto, Jalen Petrie. Nice one there for the Texans to 75. Congrats, Houston. Micah Parsons calling cards. Zach Harrison to 149 for the Falcons. Grats on that one at Atlanta. And always going to be a couple of base cards at the end. Thank you, Jason. Jason, pick up. Nice. Thank you, Jason. Dan Marino, that is Josh Jacobs, 24-25 for the Raiders. One of the last teams taken. Two-color patch. Had a great run. Five to go, yo. Five left, everybody. CMC, Zach Evans at 399 for the Rams. Kenneth Walker, Gold, Jamar Chase to 25. Nice one there for the Bengals. Roger said he's going to be back Christmas Eve. Jim Kelly. I don't think he should, but that's what he said. That's a mistake, dude. The season's done. Such a mistake. Just come back next year. Such a mistake. I can't see a shot, I don't think. Tyree Kelton, 99. Jaren Hall to 249. Nice one there. Grats on that. Vikings. That's why he scrolled up. Never mind. I know, did you see the video of Jaylen Phillips Achilles popping, dude? Oh, it was so gross. It looked like when Katie popped his Achilles. Exactly, to 149 is Jay Jetta's. Nice, Sam Laporta to 399 for the Lions. Literally one off Jersey number. He's six of 399. I agree, I don't understand. Just, there's no reason for him to come back. Bryce Young, that is Byron Young to 199. There's no reason for Rodgers to come back, I just don't know. He's coming back just to prove the doubters. Where everyone was like, oh, he tore his Achilles, he's retiring. It's 275, Jonathan Taylor. But you should just come back next year, dude. You don't have to come back this year. You can just come back next year. It's still proving everybody wrong. I think that's what it comes down to.  I've never seen it, I have seen it, but he is one of the biggest egos in sports history, man. My God. There's Dan Hampton, Lynn Dickey to 15. Nice one there for the Packers. Dude, like when they traded Devonte Adams and he complained about it the entire time after he had signed a $50 million-a-year contract, like my God, man. Like did you, Mike Evans, there's Isaiah Foskey to 25. B, I agree with that, but Darren Williams, Garrett Wilson also needs to put in more effort. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Micah Parsons. Orange, two attack by Loa, four of 30. Four-color patch, nice one there for the Dolphins. Nihime Hines. Dorian Thompson, Robinson to 3.99. Yeah, it was a really nice patch on that, too. Really nice patch on that, too. Purple to 10, Jamal Anderson. Nice one there for the Falcons. We've got a Cooper Cup piece of the game to 99. There, Wilson, Lucas Van Ness, Orange to 149 for the Packers. Marchece, Certified Stars, a bunch of base there. Collin Cards, Mahomes to 199. Redemption, Hendon Hooker, Freshman Fabric, Mears, Signatures, going to Lyons, nice one there. Did we go to Troy? Not too bad, with the Laporta now as well. Heck yeah. Lyons, Hendon Hooker. This is the fall of Josh Allen, Young Way Koo. JSN to 275. I don't know, yesterday it wasn't really his fault. That was like the miscommunications were really bad. That is Nick Chubb, Jonathan Mingo to 99 for the Panthers. Nice one there, Carolina. Honestly, if that game is the fall of Josh Allen, then Josh Allen is horrible and like, I don't know what else you expect a quarterback to do. Like, he didn't win the game, but he didn't cost them the game. No, he didn't cost them. There have been games this year, he has costed them the game. 100%. This was not one of them. Fair, Timmy. That's what I'm saying, B. Although, Dackey is playing very well this year. That is a Terrell Davis, 19 of 20, that's sweet, man. Can't be certified for the Broncos. Dackey is playing very well this year. Dackey is playing very well this year. Big Ben, Taysom Hill to 275.  McDermott?  Yeah. Really? Yeah. When you're 0-6 in overtime and like. To 99 Josh Allen speaking of. You're not gonna move on from Josh Allen, so you have to move on from the coach. I know, you don't think he bought himself one more year? No. Really? I think unless they make a deep run this year in the playoffs, he's done. Daven Cook? That's just me personally. To 275, Bijan. I think, I do agree his seat has definitely gotten a little bit hotter. I think because of his recent, like his past success, I think he got himself one more year.  That very well could be. I'm just afraid they don't wanna keep wasting years of what's considered Josh Allen's prime. 199 is piece of the game, Austin Eckler. That's also very true. That's more where like I think he's done his coming from. Damn, Marino. Purple, James Conner. No, not Purple. It's pink to 199. Pink, James Conner. I mean they already let go of the defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator like. Yeah, they did. The writing's on the wall at this point that I could be way wrong.  Like I'd be like, all right, that makes sense. Tyree Kill. Kendray Miller to 199, rookie jersey auto for the Saints. There has been, they have been, there have been some very bad coaching mistakes made for the Buffalo Bills this year. I do agree with that. Very bad coaching mistakes made. And then yesterday was a big one on defense. There's Jalen Hertz, Charlie Jones to 325.  Will Anderson to 149. Chris Rodriguez, Jr. to 149. When do they play the Eagles again? That's gonna be a good game. Two weeks. Or no, yeah, two weeks. The Eagles play the Niners and then Dallas. No, it's true, Timmy. It's true. I don't disagree, though. Dallas has not played anyone and the two teams that they did play, they lost to. Who, the? Eagles and Niners. The Niners owned them. Like that game, they got straight up dominated. The Eagles game, the Cowboys outplayed the Eagles. Johan Dotson to 159, nice one there for the commanders. Hines, Max Duggan to 149. Yeah, I agree, Chris. I said before any games were played that they would split home and home. Monro, Aino Connell to 149, nice one there for the Raiders. One of the last teams taken again. Young Waikoo, James Connors to 275. It's like the Ravens and Steelers split freaking home and home every year. Yeah, it's just like, it's expected at this point. It's so annoying, dude. Like our three losses are so bad.  Tim Brown, that's Christian Gonzalez to 399. Aaron Donald, piece of the game. Terry McLauren to 50, nice one there. That's, yeah, that is Jersey number 17 to 50. Nice one there, scary Terry. It is a Dan Hempton, we've got Aino Connell. Nice one there to 399, told you with the Raiders, man. Yeah, I was telling them when you were gone that they were the best team on the board. Absolutely, nice one there, congrats on that. Panther's still just warming up. Just warming up for a second half comeback. Timmy, there's Mike Evans, Jake Moody to 199. I do kind of feel bad for a team like the Panthers that would theoretically have back-to-back, like first overall picks. That's rough, dude. The 75 is Jim Kelly. But traded away their pick and are still bad still. All right, yeah, you're good. Let Lane finish top loading. Got Jeff with some gaming, very nice. Athletic A with a spot in the mixer. Couple of spots for Heath. Jason with a couple of spots tonight. Robert with a museum spot. And a mixer spot. So still teams on the board for the next one. 38, we still have five to go. Raven's Raiders, Rams, Vikings, Jets. Five to go. Five to go on the next break. Everything is on sale. Thank you. All right, we got numbered cards to 325. Charlie Jones, Christian Gonzalez, Dorian Thompson, Robinson, Zach Evans, JSN, James Conner, Bijan, Jonathan Taylor, Taysum Hill to 199. Jake Moody, George Kittle, Byron Young, James Conner to 149. Chris Rodriguez, Jr., Max Duggan, Will Anderson, Zach Harrison, Lucas Van Ness, Justin Jefferson to 199. Mahomes to 99. Tyree Kill, Jonathan Mingo to 75. Jimmy Kelly to 25. Isaiah Foskey, Jamar Chase into 10. Jamal Anderson. Jerseys, we've got Terry McLauren, Josh Allen, Austin Eckler, Cooper Cup, Aiden O'Connell, Jaren Hall, that is Josh Jacobs, and Tua. And then Autos, we had Jalen Petrie, Johan Dotson, Lynn Dickey, Terrell Davis, Aiden O'Connell, Sam Laporta, Kendra Miller, and Henden Hooker. That will do it for the break, everybody. Thanks again for the film. Up next, number 38, last break of the day.


The ultimate guide for affiliate marketing on YouTube for newbies. Okay. Are you a newbie? You a newbie? This video is going to help you out. Seriously. If you want to do affiliate marketing on YouTube, this is the guide you got to watch, okay? I'm going to go through every single thing that you need to do from disclaimers to everything else. And when you're done with a short video, you're going to know what to do. So let's get going. But the one thing you really need to do is subscribe to. Don't forget to do that. Hit that button down there. Don't forget turn on bell notifications. All bell notifications. So that every time I do a new video you get notified or if I go live or any of that stuff and give me a thumbs up if you don't mind. So let's get right into this and let's check it out what we need to do. Where can you get affiliate links is the first thing that people always ask me like, how do you create those? How do you get those? It's not as mysterious as it sounds. All you have to do is go to most websites, whether it's Amazon or Walmart or Target or where's the best buy? And they're going to have an affiliate program. All you have to do is sign up for that program. And then once you've done that, when you log in, you can actually click on a product, get your affiliate link and post it wherever you want. Now, Amazon is probably one of the biggest affiliate marketplaces. However, there's all kinds of other places you can go to. I like to use ClickBank. That's a great affiliate marketplace. You can you can market all kinds of different courses and all kinds of different products on ClickBank. You can also go to ShareAcele. ShareAcele has all kinds of products. Also, I'm actually a vendor on ShareAcele. So people can go on to ShareAcele, get a link for my products, for my website, and they can make money off my products too. So, you know, I do it on both both ends. I am an affiliate and I'm also the vendor. So yeah, both of them. I do both of those. The next question is, how do you naturally integrate your affiliate links with your videos if you're doing videos on YouTube? And I think it's quite easy. Probably one of the simplest things to do, and I know my wife does it more on products than I do, but do a review of a product, get a product. Many times you can contact some of these companies and say, Hey, if you send me the product, I'll do a review on my channel. I've got, you know, 1000 subscribers or 10,000 or whatever you got. And it doesn't even have to be a whole lot of subscribers. Most of these companies just want to have another review of their product out there. When you do a product review, you can tell the people in the video, Hey, I've posted a link below.  In most cases, when you're doing a review like that, the companies will say, Hey, we'll offer a 20% discount or 10% discount or whatever it is. And you can pass that along to your viewers and that encourages them a whole lot more to actually click the link. Now the question is, where do you put the link? Most people will put the link in the description section of the video, but I want you to temper this a little bit. You know, YouTube's whole goal is to keep people on the platform. It's not to send them someplace else. So if you have no subscribers and you're brand new and every time somebody watches one of your videos, they leave and go buy something else, you probably won't get many views. You know, YouTube is not going to push your videos out that much. So you have to temper this a little bit. I don't tell everybody in every single video that I have links below. Now the links are always there, but I don't always mention it. And I don't always mention it because I don't always want people to leave the platform. Heck, I would rather than watch 10 of my videos instead to build my traffic up so that YouTube pushes my videos out a little bit more rather than just sending them away every single time. That's not what I want to do. Now as your audience grows, as you get more views, as you have more traffic, it's a whole lot easier to do a video and send them someplace else because YouTube already knows that people watch your channel.  You already have traffic, so they don't mind it as much. But if you're brand new, you've got to be careful in doing that. Here comes the big thing. What about legal disclosures? Here's the important thing to remember. When you are an affiliate for a product, you cannot hide that in any way. You don't want to hide that, okay?  I don't think that turns anybody off at all. Now what you may want to say is that's not going to affect your price at all. You're not going to pay any more for the product, which they shouldn't, right? The affiliate money that you get should come out of the product manufacturer, whoever it is, their pocket, not the consumer. In many cases, like I said before, if you send somebody to an affiliate link like that, the manufacturer or the owner of that particular program will pay you a commission for that, right? But they'll also give a discount that you could pass on to other people to encourage them to click that link, too. But you want to make sure at all, anytime you tell somebody to go somewhere and you're getting money back from it, let them know. Just be honest about it. It doesn't turn them off. Just say, hey, this is an affiliate link of mine.  It doesn't affect how much you have to pay for the product. They just give me a small portion because I'm an affiliate for this company and I respect this company. Make sure you let them know that. Now, the next thing that people ask me is, well, if I'm an affiliate for a particular product, what changes do I have to make in my settings? What do I have to do in my settings to make all this work? You don't have to do anything. OK, the way it works is whatever link you have, whatever affiliate link you have, when that is clicked on, that person is cookied so that they know when they come to the site, whether they go to Amazon or some other site, that it came from you. And since it came from you, you're the one that's going to get the commission if they buy a product. And you can also be more detailed if you want about your affiliate association. You can say, hey, I'm not being paid. You know, if you click the link, but they did send me this product to review for free. I got this free product right here. So that's OK to do that too. For the most part, you want to make sure people trust you. And why shouldn't they? Why should you not be trustworthy, right? You want to be trustworthy. You want to be open and honest with everything you're doing online. Next question I get is, how does the payout work? Well, the payout normally works when you set up your affiliate association. So you're going to go to, say, click bank, you're going to fill out all your information, including your banking information. And when you get a commission, they're going to do a payout, whether it's weekly or monthly, whatever, whatever that affiliate agreement is. And they're going to just put money in your bank. Some affiliate associations will put money into a PayPal account or a Venmo account or whatever you set up. But that's all going to happen at the time you become an affiliate for that particular product. Now, the next question I have people ask me is, what are the commission rates? What am I going to get paid to be an affiliate? Well, that really largely depends on who you're marketing. At Amazon, it's going to be a small amount, maybe two, three, four, five percent. You know, I don't even look at it to be honest with you. I do have links below for Amazon. If you want to check it out, they are affiliate links and I do get a small commission. But, you know, on some sites, it could be 10 or 20 percent. I know our products on share sale, we pay out 10 percent. So if you send somebody to our survival cave food site and they buy something on that particular site, we pay you 10 percent, which is a pretty good payout. Other sites pay a lot more. If you go to something like Clickbank, you could get 50 percent or 80 or 90 or some of them actually pay out 100 percent because they're just trying to build their list. And they don't care about that initial money because they know on down the road when they re-email them, they're going to make money off that. Now, the other big questions I get is, I just want ads to run on my videos. I want to make money off ads. Well, they changed it last year to where they're going to put ads on everybody's videos, period, period. Whether you're monetized or not. So if you don't have monetization, you're not going to get paid, you just won't. And that's just the way it is. And if you don't like that, just don't make videos for YouTube. It's real simple. I like it. I think they have a good program.  It takes time to get 1,000 subscribers and also 4,000 hours of watch time in the previous 12 months. So you have to qualify under those two things. And then that doesn't guarantee you're going to be paid. All it guarantees is that you're eligible to monetize your particular videos.  And not all of your videos are going to be able to be monetized. If you're targeting videos towards kids or something like that, you can't monetize those. It's not going to happen. A lot of times if you have any foul language or nudity or any of those things in your videos, you can't monetize those. They're not going to allow it.  And let's face it, a lot of advertisers, they don't want to advertise on an ad that has profanity or something in it. That's not what they want because that's going to damage their brand. So you really have to be careful about that. And you've got to be cognizant as to what the rules are and you've got to adhere to them. This is not your platform. This is Google's platform. This is YouTube. So they make the rules. They let you use it for free. Pretty good deal.  And the more content you put out, the more money you can make. And I want you to think of it this way. If you had 10 videos and they all had affiliate links on them, you could make X number of dollars off those affiliate links. But what if you had a hundred videos? What if you had a thousand videos? So it really increases exponentially when you make more content. Now, that content we talked about today was on YouTube, but that doesn't mean that you can't put the same affiliate links on your website or on social media or wherever you want to put them. But you do want to check out when you get to social media, especially places like Facebook or whatever. They have a lot of rules about this stuff.  They can close your account and you can get banned from the platform. We've seen that happen, right? We've seen people get banned from platforms. So make sure you adhere to the rules. Make sure you do it right. There's no point in doing it any other way. Understand when you're using one of these platforms, you're going into somebody else's house. It's their house. OK, so they have their house rules. And if you went into somebody's house and you acted up and you didn't act the way they wanted, whether it was a bar or whether it was somebody's personal home, they're going to want to kick you out. They don't want you in there. So understand the rules is the most important thing. You got to understand them up front. And then secondly, you've got to abide by them. If you don't want to use somebody else's house, you don't want to use YouTube or Facebook or whatever. You can do what you want on your own website. OK, however, I will tell you some websites have been shut down, too, because of rules that they had about hosting. So be careful. That's all I can say is be super careful about it. You can make money on YouTube. You can make it with affiliate links. Don't do it in the beginning. I will tell you, do not do it in the beginning. Get some traffic first, get some views first. And then you can go ahead and put them on there. I know you're anxious. I know you want to make money. This all takes time. We all start with zero subscribers. 100 percent of us started with zero subscribers. And we're kind of building from there. And that's what you're going to have to do, too. I hope you enjoyed this video. And don't forget to subscribe. If you haven't done so so far, there's a button down there. It says subscribe. 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Hello friends, I am Sanjay Gupta. In this video I am going to demonstrate you how you can count how many words are available in a string. Before starting you can note my information. You can follow or subscribe my youtube channel through the link youtube.com slash sanjaygupta underscore tech school. You can download my programming app Techimus which is available on Google Play. Now I am going to implement this solution in C programming. So first I am including a header file that is stdr.h. Now I am defining main function. Inside main first I am declaring a character name that is str. Now variable i and c is equals to 0. Now if we want to count words in a string so first we have to understand what is a word in a string. So if we take example of this sentence. So here you can see total 5 words are available. So word is terminated with a space. So count is one word because after t there is a space then words because after s there is another space then after n space is available then after a space is available. So here you can see total number of spaces are 4 and total number of words are 5. So to count number of words in a string we can count number of spaces. So if number of spaces are 4 that is available in this sentence. So words will be spaces plus 1. So suppose there is a sentence in which only one word is available. So that will be containing zero space. So whenever we count number of spaces in a sentence then number of words will be spaces plus 1. So in this program I will be counting number of spaces in a sentence then I will be able to find out how many words are available in that sentence or string. So first I am going to display the message. Enter string through this printf then to receive that string I am using getis function. Now I am applying a for loop which is starting from zero then condition is str of i not equals to null and then i plus plus. So if condition str of i not equals to null is true then only this loop will repeat. So here I have to check if str of i double equals to space. So you can see I have applied space in single quotes and str of i is compared with this space. So if a connector which is available in a string is equals to space then I am counting c plus plus. So if this condition is true then only c will be incremented by one otherwise not. So c will be counting how many spaces are available in a string. Now after completion of this loop I can print words equals to percent d and then c plus one because words are equals to number of spaces plus one. That's why I have printed c plus one and at last return zero. Now I am modifying this size of string. So you can see I have implemented the logic in front of you which is counting number of spaces and after completion of counting I am printing spaces plus one which is the quantity of words. Now I am executing this code. So here I am typing India is great. So here you can see total number of spaces are two. So that's why this sentence is containing three words. So you can see the output words equals to three. So this way I have counted number of spaces and after adding one in number of spaces I am able to find out how many words are available in a string. I hope you have understood the logic well how we can count number of words in a string. If you want to watch more programming related videos you can follow or subscribe my YouTube channel through the URL youtube.com slash Tanjay Gupta underscore tech school. You can download my programming app Techimus which is available on Google Play. Thank you for watching this video.


Rod, te wapneksha waz about New Zealand in 20 years and the challenges it's going to face. What do you think are going to be the biggest changes that we face in health care over that time? The reality is, I can't tell you because I don't know, but the changes are going to be massive. In my own field, the main field we work on, which is cancer immunotherapy, many people have heard the story that there are patients being cured by immunotherapy for cancer. This makes us think that eventually most cancer therapy will involve manipulation of the immune system and it's likely to be successful. It's going to take a while to go from the relatively small number of patients responding at the moment to lots more patients, but I do tell my students in classes that cancer therapy for their generation will be completely different and it's likely cancer will be a liveable chronic disease. Now we're here at the Morris Wilkins Centre today, which is a centre of research excellence that in some ways is leading New Zealand science. How important is New Zealand science in the big picture of things? For the economic future, science and technology are absolutely critical. We know that we can't continue to live off unmodified primary produce and so you need science and technology to obviously get the value at. More importantly, we need five or six companies of the size of Fonterra. Is one going to be a space company? Is one going to be a drug company? Well, quite feasibly. We know because we measure this thing endlessly because we're made to, that the quality of our science is extremely high. Our scientists actually do outstanding work. What we perhaps have lacked sometimes is the capital to take some of those scientific discoveries forward into economic benefit. The great thing about what's happening at the moment is I think that's beginning to change. On the show, Nigel Latter got his DNA tested. What are your thoughts on that? Is that going to be something that all New Zealanders have done in the near term? I wouldn't say in the near term. I certainly wouldn't advise it in the near term. The problem is that when you look at the human genome, there's still so much doubt about what all the little bits and pieces mean. And so the number of, as you call it, actionable changes. The things that are in your DNA that mean you can make a change that will make a difference to your health, or that can predict some problem you might have in the future that necessitate an intervention are very, very, very small. So most of the stuff that is being predicted around, oh, you have an increased risk of that, or you've got a potential of this happening in the future, it's not specific enough to actually enable you to make a change. And it's going to be a very long time with very large studies before we understand all that. So at the moment what is really happening is a lot of people having their DNA done experiencing anxiety as they are told that, oh, this is linked to this disease. What do I do about it? Well, we don't know. I mean, this is not a wonderful thing to be doing. And that's not to say that genomic science is not incredibly valuable and through genomic science we are learning so much about the susceptibilities that we carry in our DNA. And especially in the cancer biology field are called sequencing patients' tumours. It's incredibly valuable now at determining exactly what kind of therapy a particular person might need. But even there, we can analyse a patient's tumour and we can find exactly what's gone wrong with their DNA to drive their tumour. We can't necessarily drug every single change that they've got. And in some cases you can look at a patient's DNA and say, well, we can see all these changes that are causing the cancer and there's absolutely nothing that we can do about it. Those particular changes. So it's very, very early days and I think the idea of people running out and having their DNA sequenced and living much healthier lives as a result is quite some way away.


Egg donation has been something that is rooted in cash compensation. You're being paid anywhere from $8,000 in cash upwards of $100,000 depending on your education, heritage, how desirable you are to intended parents. What's wild is that there was a study that came out from Harvard that surveyed donor-conceived people. Over 60% of them found it troubling that their parents paid cash for their genetics. So it's like, if we know that, let's do better.