Live from Silicon Valley, it's theCUBE. Covering Mobile World Congress 2017, brought to you by Intel. Okay, welcome back everyone. We're here live in Palo Alto for SiliconANGLE Media's theCUBE's new studio, 4,500 square feet in Palo Alto. Just moved in less than a month ago and we're bringing you all the in-studio coverage of what's going on in Barcelona, Spain at Mobile World Congress. This is day two of two days of coverage here in the studio. We're bringing people in this in Silicon Valley into the studio, experts, entrepreneurs, venture capitalists, investors, angel investors, and of course, analysts here from our own team and we have Peter Burris with me here. And we're covering all the action. Of course, we have reporters and analysts and friends on the ground doing call ins in Barcelona bringing you all the action and really bringing the big story that's not being told which is AI, IoT and cloud ready, cloud native action is happening. This is the disruptor, the calm before the storm as we were saying earlier yesterday. Peter Burris, great to see you. We were talking yesterday morning on the kickoff. Let's take that to the next level. Cloud native, IoT, really the big story that's not being told at Mobile World Congress this year mainly because it's just in everyone's face right now and people are making sense of it. Your thoughts on this as you are looking at the research looking at the marketplace, this is reality. The IoT is real. Oh, it's very much real, John. Let's start with why cloud and mobile are so important together. In many respects, the thing that made the cloud real is mobility because the minute that you don't know where your device is going to connect where the termination point is going to be then you don't want to have to control and own that network. And so in many respects, the whole concept of mobility catalyzed the need for the cloud because you didn't want to have to utilize a, you didn't want to have to build your own network to support people as they moved around. So the cloud as a front end or as a set of capabilities that supports mobility is really crucial to this whole concept and it's somewhat surprising that it's not more closely tied together at Mobile World Congress. But the most important thing that we could talk about obviously is that this, that IoT is going to have a major impact on all kinds of different factors. It's going to have a major impact on the devices that are manufactured. It's going to have a major impact on what the scale efficiencies that you have in manufacturing, the nature of the sensors, the nature of the microprocessors, how much memory gets put on stuff, how much flash memory is going to be manufactured over the next decade. All these things are going to have a significant impact on the concept of mobility and what it means and the networks that provide it over the course of the next 10 years. Peter, I want to bring up something that you brought up yesterday. I think this is important. That's why I wanted to do a real drill down on what seems to be a major paradigm shift and an inflection point. We've been talking about autonomous vehicles, media entertainment, smart cities, smart homes. Those are all the sexy demos at Mobile World Congress. But the real change that's pointed out by Valperge Tellier, which just came in as CTO, is that the sea changed underneath and you pointed out yesterday the convergence between enterprise and consumers coming together is that this internet of things and people, IOTP or IOTNP, because things can be sensors and devices are changing it. And what's obvious to us and now coming out of Mobile World Congress as it's just starting to be seen by the mainstream press and media and community is that the telcos aren't used to dealing with rapidly provisioning things. They're used to a subscriber who buys a phone, dials up a service, gets provisioned and connected and they have it number and then they try to connect to the base station and get on the internet. That's simple. Those connections we all know fail. But now imagine that multiplied by millions and millions of devices that are gonna be turned on and connected. This is a scale problem. This is a network problem. This is a physics problem. Well, it's a physics problem. Explain your theory. Yeah, it's a physics problem. It's a physics problem at a very, very base level. Just talking about the telcos for a second. You're absolutely right, John. We're talking about, when we talk about the scale problem in the telcos, it's not that they don't know what to do with their networks. It's not that they don't know how to connect devices to their networks. They just don't know how to provide it at a service level. It's going to be demanded by the scale of the devices moving into and out of networks as we think about IoT and P. The telcos have historically thought about, they've thought about the assets that they have in place, the rates that they charge for those assets, the returns they generate, the tariff rules that they work with with governments around the globe. They tend to focus on good or bad 10, 20-year time horizon. And their P is phone, not people. That's right. Oh, their P is absolutely. Their P is phone. You were probably around. I can remember when you could not buy a phone that didn't have, on a particular company's network. You still can't buy a phone on a network today. You're buying a mobile phone and it goes. You're buying a carrier. It's associated with a, that's right. That's exactly right. And so, and that's how telcos want to work. Now, they're hoping that eventually they're going to find themselves in the position to be able to spin up devices very quickly. But the reality is, that's not how provisioning works in the real world. It's one of the reasons why telcos continue to get their lunches eaten by companies that are building out their own networks and doing a much better job of rapid provisioning. So you and I were talking last night off camera about this notion of IoT and P. And of course, we all believe in, of course we're passionate about it. But you made a comment that that was interesting. It was that we're going to look back at this time in history as a moment where before and after kind of, you know, before Christ after Christ, however you want to look at it. I mean, there's always that AD, you know, BC kind of thing going on where before, I always would call it before Steve Jobs and iPhone, before, now it's going to a home of the level with the societal changes from little things like we had a guest on talk about waste disposal efficiency, traffic light management, healthcare, every single digital service. NTT Docamo's investor was on yesterday. She was talking about investing in services and bringing AI as a service, not network services, lifestyle services. So what do you mean by that? This is going to be something that's going, we're going to look back 50 years from now and say this was the moment. Can you expand your? Yeah, absolutely, John. And it's really actually pretty simple. What's, if you take a look at kind of how executives are starting to think, what's happening is for the first time, we're really starting to look at data as an asset. Now, that's a big question, but let me kind of break it down and be a little bit more concise about what I mean by that. When we think about IoT and P, we're thinking about the idea that we can distribute enormous billions of devices that are going to be sources of data. And they're going to be going into the analog world, put into the analog world, they're going to take analog signals and turn them into and trans, transduce them into digital signals. Once those signals become digital, then they hit big data, they hit AI, they hit machine learning. That's what's catalyzing a lot of the social concerns about, well, what does it mean for machines to be more autonomous, to take more responsibility? What's going to happen with business accountability when businesses are increasingly relying on machines that quote, think? So when we think about these big societal changes, we're talking about the ability that IoT is providing, IoT and P is providing, that for the first time, how we're going to capture enormous net new data, how we're going to process that enormous net new data, and then ultimately what we call systems of inaction, how we're going to enact specific events back in the real world as a consequence of what machines say is the right thing to do. That is a demarcation point. It moves from a machine being regarded as a tool, and almost exclusively as a tool, something that performs work better, but having that work be very well described and very well articulated and the concept clear to something that might actually introduce new work or do work differently, take responsibility for how it performs the work. That's a major sea change. And so when we say that it's going to be, we'll look back and say it was before this time and after this time, it's because we are now in the position to economically be able to gather these streams of data, process them in ways that are unprecedented, and then have the results of that processing enact in unpredictable ways. And that's a major change. I don't know if we can talk about some of your research that's coming out. I don't know if can we just touch on some of the points? This has yet to be released research from the Wikibon team, headed up by Peter at SiliconANGLE Media. I want to just point out, because I find this interesting, you say that there's a architectural decision point with an IOTP, a new phrase, hashtag IOTP, if you're interested in working with us, just hit us up at Twitter, but there's really four points you point. Physics, the law, legal, of course everything's legal. Physics, legal, economical, economics, and then authority. What do you mean by those four? Can you just take us through, just conceptually, these are dimensions, they interplay, are they dependencies, are they interdependent, are they all intertwined? What's the rationale behind these architectural forces? Well, when people think about information systems historically, they've been relatively well circumscribed. So I have an employee that I'm going to provide a service to from a network that I control that has latency requirements and aren't that big a problem because at the end of the day, a human being doesn't operate at nanosecond kind of levels. And I got a machine that's mine and I own running an application that I've licensed. That is a very, very tightly bound unit. When we start introducing IoTP and some of these other things, now we're talking about emergent behaviors that may be far away, that we don't control, we're working with partners, et cetera, and the basic architectural challenge of thinking about what do we have to do to get a handle on the requirements of the processing because at the end of the day, these things are still computers and they still have operational characteristics that have to be accommodated. So we think that there's going to be four factors that are going to influence how what we call the edge zone expands or compresses based on the work that needs to be conducted. So one is physics. You're not going to go faster than the speed of light. And in fact, generally speaking, if you look at the distance that you have to travel, you're going to be outside the automation zone. If you're going to be outside the automation zone, if you have to, if light has to travel, at best you're going to be about a 10th of the speed of light. So if you have to, if you're automation zone, if you want your automation zone to be about 100 miles, then it means that from there and back with the speed of light, you're not going to be able to automate anything that takes longer than that. Just for example. So physics is one. And wireless is a great example of physics. And moving packets around. None of this stuff works without physics, right? The second one is legal. That reality is, is that while the laws of physics are relatively immutable, as far as we know, there are also government regulations that are what they are. And that can include privacy, it can include requirements for disclosing things. And so those also borders are going to have an impact on this notion of automation zones or edge zones as we call them. Economics is another one. Costs money to move data from point A to point B. And the question is how much data is going to move? A lot of people think that everything's going to go up to the cloud, it's going to be processed up there. And then some instruction is going to come down for automation. That's probably not the way it's going to work. Our findings are suggest- Well, not only is it the cost of data, I would argue that also the product design criteria will be impacted economically on that decision point. But that's based on how much does it cost to move the data around, right? So the operational characteristics of a product or service or fundamentally a digital product or service are fundamentally tied to the cost of moving data. So we think that 95 plus percent of the data is actually going to stay in the edge. And the last one is authority. And we kind of touched upon this a second ago in that we're now suggesting that machines are going to take actions without human intervention. Not just actions, but they're actually going to change the scope and nature of the actions that are going to be taken. What does that mean? What does it mean for a machine to act on behalf of a brand or on behalf of a person? You know, people use a simple explanation. Does the autonomous car take out the old lady or the Cub Scouts if you've got a problem? Or does it do something else? It's those kinds of things that we don't know the answer to. So a lot of the questions of authority and how we distribute authority and how we codify authority and how we track authority is going to have a major impact on what limits to behavior we put on these things. Well, it's also the security angle alone is another one too. It's just like basic stuff. These are interesting. So you see, and you see these architectural forces. Are we calling them forces, factors, variables? Just factors simply because the concept of factor or you can call it constraints is the idea that your decision has to factor these things. So we're just calling them factors right now. All right, so let's step back now and look at some of the commentary from this week in Mobile World Congress and our interviews here in theCUBE as well as the remotes. Certainly the hallway conversation is the business model of the telcos. Sargillai who's on yesterday brought up a point of, hey, where's the use cases? Show me the use case and I'll say yes. And it's just too complicated. He was not seeing the use cases and he was saying I'd prefer more battery life than more one gigabit wireless right now given that's his current situation. So the balancing of where to get started. It seems to be the number one theme. What do I do next? What's the first step? Is there, will the bridge collapse that I'm trying to cross to this future or I can't see the other side? Is the world flat around? These are kind of more personal feelings that people have around taking that leap of faith into this new world. How do you advise and package that together and assimilate that? I mean, how should people look at that? Well, I think it's a great question and I wasn't part of the conversation yesterday but let's look at that for example.  Relatively simple number of transducers, right? You have a chip that turns your analog voice into a digital signal so there's that in there. You have some neat stuff that presents the screen so there's that in there. You have a microphone, et cetera, that kind of stuff. But when we start thinking about 5G and what networking could become as we talked about yesterday, it's not so much the absolute bandwidth speeds and it certainly is not going to have any impact on latency for the most part. It really is the number of devices that you can support at one time. So it allows for greater density of sources. So now, without looking at 5G, we can talk about a phone being able to support not just a few generators of few sources of data on that phone, but maybe dozens. So maybe things that, you know, the whole concept of wearables. Again, do I want to get involved in the use case? No, you and I are sitting here being analysts and that's not our business. But are there going to be use cases for more wearable technology? Well, if you're sick, if you have a chronic disease, just for example, yeah, that's a use case that I could see people actually living much higher quality lives because they can support more sensors as a result of 5G with greater security. Again, we go to the autonomous car. There's going to be a lot of sensors in an autonomous car. Now, most of them are going to operate locally, but having said that, it might be nice if we could actually have a very, very fast, low cost network with inside the car itself to handle a lot of that work. So I think that we've, you know, human beings, developers, have always found new use cases when given more compute, more memory, and more networking. I don't think that's going to change. I don't want to see more of that. Peter, what's your thoughts if you had to summarize and encapsulate into a narrative? Mobile World Congress 2017, now looking back at day two, kind of coming to a close. You're seeing what's out there. Well, how do you look at that? How would you tell someone? Here is the story of Mobile World Congress. Tell that story. To me, John, having looked at the stuff come over the transom and a lot of new devices being talked about and generating a little bit of excitement, a lot of new this and a little bit of excitement, I think that the question for me is, are we moving into a period where integration's going to matter again? And I think in many respects, that's going to be kind of the subtext of what's coming out of Mobile World Congress. Is it good enough to have the best of breed device and this and that with a software stack that's doing this and that? Or is there going to be more value to the enterprise and ultimately to the consumer by taking more of an end-to-end perspective? Now, Apple, from a consumer and an experience standpoint, has done that and has 150, what is it? They're worth $150 billion more than any other company on the planet right now or something crazy like that. Don't quote me on that, but I think that's what somebody told me. It's trillions of dollars in cash when we see it, for sure. Yeah, so it's that notion of are we moving back into a world where integration is going to matter because we're going through a period of significant discontinuity. Integration is a great point because I do see that as a thing and in bringing the Apple example, Apple, the way they develop, might be different than, say, what we've seen in open source, for instance. If you look at what Intel is doing and I look at Intel as a bellwether and this is, from my perspective, because they have such a huge long game in play, they have been the leader, in my opinion, in the tech industry, playing the long game and they have to because they make chips and they're looking at the 5G as an ecosystem play and they're admitting and saying it's not one vendor, it's gonna, they don't say take a village but they're basically saying it takes a village to rise to all the tide or float all the boats, if you will. So if you look at what Intel's doing, they're essentially saying that it's an integration game through their own moves, which is ecosystem, playing well together. Now you could fight for best of breed on point solutions whether it's a Snapdragon Qualcomm or Intel processor on the device. At the end of the day, it's, as we were saying, network function virtualization to make those dynamic networks work seem to be the key. Now to play in that, as a society globally, to your four factors, it has to be an integration game. No one company can do those factors. Well, you're absolutely right. Here's how I would say it, to kind of put a slightly different twist on it. The tech industry has moved from a product orientation to a service orientation or is moving from a product orientation to a service orientation. From an orientation where we focus on what's the intrinsic value of what we're buying to what's the utility of what we're using? From, hey, let's spend a lot of money up front and maybe we'll get to some point in time in the future where it's valuable to a let's only pay for what we got. It's difficult to imagine the tech industry moving successfully into that service orientation without taking more of an integration approach to it. Certainly that's what Amazon's trying to do or AWS is trying to do. That's what Google is trying to do. That's what all the companies that are trying to move infrastructure into the cloud are trying to do. So I think that this is a general issue. If we're moving to a service orientation, we have to start taking the integration view on things. Awesome, great Peter. You're watching theCUBE. This is SiliconANGLE Media Inc. and SiliconANGLE Media Inc. Prizes of SiliconANGLE.com led by Rob Hoef. That's our publishing journalism. Wikibon.com led by Peter Barris on the research and theCUBE. Our internet TV led by Jeff Frick and of course CrowdChat is the data brand and the data science. And we'd love to bring you this great content. Peter, I'll give you a quick plug because I know that you've been doing a ton of work building out the research team at Wikibon and expanding the work behind the firewalls. It's a paid subscription. Some freemium that we see on SiliconANGLE.com for the most part. A great body of work on the research. I want to congratulate you but give you an opportunity to share with the folks who are watching. What's going on with research and some of the things that you're working on and why they should potentially reach out to Wikibon. Yeah, so we're focused on a couple of relatively simple things. We're not a huge team so we tend to focus less on products. Again, the idea of let's take a look at the intrinsic value of products and we focus more on the impacts. What does it mean to get utility out of things? How do you get utility out of whatever you buy? So the other thing we focus on is disruption and we talked a lot about what are the disrupting factors? IoT, big data and what we call these systems of inaction all supported by significant change in the infrastructure and new digital business models. So it's kind of a combination of those five things that we are focusing our time and attention on. Ultimately, we want to be in a position to help our clients make decisions that improve the value of their business by better utilizing data through these digital models, digital business models that require these technology changes to go. Great and also this show of Mobile World Congress is about cloud ready. You had a great report on Amazon. We posted on siliconangle.com. What was the summary? Bottom line that big body of work you did with about Amazon that the headline was how big can Amazon be? What was the key findings from your big seminal report on Amazon web services? Yeah and the big finding is Amazon's going to get big but the cloud's also going to get big and we think that Amazon, the simple finding is we think Amazon's going to hold share. Now that may not sound like much but for the most part, most of the value is going to go into SaaS. Most of the value is going to go into the other use cases associated with stuff. That's where a lot of the money's going to go. So Amazon holding share given that they're one of the, in many respects they created this whole thing is actually a pretty stunning statement. So and it all started John because when we went and we looked at our semiannual update to what's going on in the cloud marketplace, the question that kept coming to us was, okay so we think it's going to go this fast. Well what's that going to happen? What's Amazon going to do with that? What's it going to mean to Amazon? How is Amazon's going to grow is going to affect these things? And so we started with that answer. We built our models and talked to a lot of users, built our scenarios and so we think that Amazon's going to continue to grow very fast. We think it's going to be a $40 billion company, $40 billion plus dollar company. In revenue. In revenue, AWS, AWS. Not Amazon, Amazon services. Amazon's a totally different beast. We'll see what Amazon does. But AWS will be about a $40 billion company in four or five years. And still have about eight plus percent market share. And Microsoft has changed their game. They're coming right after Amazon. Microsoft, Oracle, IBM, Google. And when you start talking to nationally Alibaba, there's going to be a dozen companies that create enormous businesses. And there are companies who don't have a cloud that are late to the game and might not have a seat when the music stops in the old musical chair analogy. So certainly we know who they are. What's going to happen to the telcos? Good question. The world, we live in a very exciting times as the saying goes. Peter Burris, great to have you, great commentary. Love what you're doing. I think the research around IoT and the edge is a fundamental architectural shift. You got the four forces laid out. Congratulations, looking forward to doing more where this is totally going to be a game changer. This will impact everything that we live and make the autonomous vehicles and the drones and the AI and smart cities a reality. Thanks for the commentary. More Mobile World Congress coverage here in Palo Alto, bringing it all down. We've got a couple late night call-ins, so stay with us. Hopefully folks will be, you know, sauced up a bit and maybe share some of the news and breaking stories from the hallway. More from theCUBE after the short break. Thanks for watching.


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Welcome back to the series. My name is Jack. You can call me. I should know people today We have a suit. I believe it's is it 15 it's part 2 episode 2 of our full metal octopus brotherhood watch through The last episode was a big one. We had this reveal that Bradley was actually one of the sins. He's super evil I had always suspected he was a bit evil, but not that he was part of the entire operation He's literally like not the big baddie because the big baddies like that I think they call them that created them, but my goodness. It is it is heating up I'm excited to get into it. I was told there's probably a new intro this episode Starting off. Oh Shoot Yo, this man's got two Transmutation circle from both hands This guy look at he looks like the monopoly man. Oh, I mean he said he has a name for himself, but Scar is scar. I Just love alchemy battles because I Like you can use so much creativity to your advantage this little peg leg Leads out Another one taken down by scar another man rest in peace monopoly, man Okay, I like this We'll see how it compares to the first though the light shining down on the city Herders, I like the little panda Very cute. Was that a glizzy? That's his dad, right? That's who I thought looked like the dad of like the of the sense Speaking of which there they are Little bit of Mustang action. I want to see him getting more fights You always see the this panda and then this the pet girl little girl in the panda and the sword guy looks sick a big fight between between Ed and Scar I don't want I don't want to say I want to see star scar turn good or anything because he's scar, but He seems lost There's the girl May chang what's the pandas name? Did she heal with the panda?  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Is there an animal now? Did you Yeah, I was gonna say Oh I feel so much better. You guys are lifesavers. Thanks a lot. That's the guy from your treat, right? One that I say I was paid from the intro Over something so small How lucky I am to have found such hospitality so far from home. Wait. He has a panda thing. You mean you're not from here That's right. I came from she came from the same place as that little girl The country to the east of the desert. I wanted to visit the ruins of Xerxes that route goes by the Xerxes next to nothing out there I wanted to see for myself.  I wonder if that's his daughter I believe it's what you hear in this country called alchemy in shing. It's known as alchemy history It's mainly used in the medical profession. Oh, okay, then that makes sense why she was able to heal him Okay, so it's more proficient Alchemy is aggression even now we still have skirmishes at the borders of ergo to the south created to the west Alchemy is a huge country drachma. We have a tentative non-aggression pack with them in Briggs mountain Sounds like you guys have got your hands full all right Things began to move more toward the militaristic when the current fear king bradley first came into power When did he though? I have to say i'm curious about i see bradley in such a different light now I feel like I need to look at everything differently now with him. Are the two of you guys alchemists? Oh, yeah, we are actually my name's ling yao. It's a pleasure. What else can you tell us about alchemy history? Sure love to learn more nothing. Yeah, sorry, but i'm not actually in alchemy history Well, then if it's his daughter then she knows that he doesn't come all the way here to research it. Yeah, see i'm looking for something a philosopher stone Dude everybody's looking for it. Do you know anything everybody?   Yikes I want to achieve immortality Hem and the full metal Shao is the panda so both of them want immortality.  Oh my gosh. Why in any case I can't say that I care too much for your way of asking questions Just a little bit especially when oh, wow, I guess it's it's patchwork But still Wow these guys are actually formidable I thought they were just gonna be grunts Just season such a waste of time and energy though.   I don't know And he doesn't Maybe that puts him in an advantage and puts out an advantage since he doesn't have energy Very foolish of you And sultan more they figured out some part of them If this is the bestest flunkies can manage that I wonder why he does get defensive about laying He's just a very passionate grunt. Okay Maybe it's like his son's fighting for him. I don't know. 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Yeah, he's not telling Dude because he went to the same place Older brother's dignity It's because of oh my gosh, it's because of the place he went to when that girl was killed inside a suit of armor And foo their family has served mine for generations They're okay. So it's a lineage thing for strangers for food and yet you can somehow afford two personal attendants Well, I am the emperor's son after all Whoa Oh, he's a big deal then that makes you Prince Ling dude That's why they hold him to such a high regard because he's a literal prince That's a lot of kids Yeah, that's the problem. We're facing right now. The emperor's health has begun to deteriorate Each clan is doing everything they can to curry favor Oh, that's why he's looking for the philosopher stone Exactly because if he gives it to him, he could be emperor What information can you offer not happening the stone isn't a tool for some political game Then I'll have to stay with you until you tell me Bro one room has gone the whole time His smile There's no need to bow. He knows how important Ed is like right away. It takes us a little bowing I'll consider it a small price to pay the fate of 500 000 yaw clansmen writes on this We can't worry so much about appearances. We were thinking about doing some digging in central I want to come too. Take me with you. What do you want to go? Yeah, well, I thought I would think she would want to stay there to see the Hughes family again It's okay. If you want to go in re you should take a break every once in a while Dude the Hughes feels bad man. Here we come Winery's so adorable They got a whole group now Ed Al Winery Ling and his two uh, his two bodyguards But what I wonder if she's one of the Kids of the emperor you never have told me what your name is. I don't know if you don't mind I would very much like to know it Ishvalan people take great pride speaking their names aloud as they are gifts from god. I have renounced my ishvalan name Now go keep moving Right. I wonder what the girl said Or was it Well, the guy told the girl that he was scars master a lot of side characters introduced that episode We got this little girl who's from the same place as this prince with his two bodyguards Not sure if they're connected She may be a much younger kid of the emperor possibly and these are just two siblings like going like head to head I don't really know because I even said maybe it's either his daughter or his I wouldn't didn't even think sister because they're very far apart. He seems quite old My goodness is setting up white the group to head to central because I believe everybody's headed to central right now And it's it's gonna be freaking crazy. I mean even Mustang and his group are there now I don't know what's gonna go down, but I'm excited I'm loving the series a lot be sure to drop comments down below and what you thought of the episode What you think of this new guy Ling and his two bodyguards of this new little girl in her panda The panda is freaking adorable already my favorite character But uh, yeah, I hope you guys have a wonderful rest of your day as per usual and I catch you in the next one Peace


All right. The recording is on and we can get into our session for today. We'll pray and begin. So I request somebody from the online batch to please go ahead and pray today. Who would like to lead? Heavenly Father, we just wish to thank you for this hour of study and we just pray a lot that as you guide us through these lessons, Lord, that we will be open to learn from you and be able to retain whatever we've studied, Father. We pray, Father, that as we continue to learn, Lord, that we will be sensitive to the Holy Spirit, Lord, and be able to apply whatever we've learned in our day-to-day lives, Father. We pray for blessing upon all the teachers and the students, Lord. In Jesus' precious name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Brother Sanjay. We'll get to our notes and today I thought we would take up chapter 18. There are some more chapters before that but we'll go to it later because the subject that we need to be doing today is to pray for the city. But I'll club it with praying for revival and also, I mean, there's another subject about praying in a group. So we'll club all that together and we'll study it but right now we'll take up the subject of fasting. So prayer with fasting. So it's a really, really interesting subject and I'm sure many of us want to understand why do we fast and what is the meaning of fasting? How is fasting clubbed with prayer essential and important? What kind of impact it has on our lives? So that is the subject for today. We'll study about fasting and prayer. So there's a lot of information in the chapter. I'll try to summarize it section by section. So our primary passage will be from Isaiah 58. So I request us to open our Bibles to Isaiah 58. We will go to that passage later and we will study through the entire passage. But before that let's just have a little bit of background regarding fasting. So very similar to prayer, we look at fasting as a spiritual discipline. Prayer is relationship with God and at the same time we practice it like a discipline. Remember we said that we need a strictly regimented or like a sort of planned, scheduled way of praying. We can be spontaneous or we can pray whenever we like but usually if we have set times of prayer it helps us to be more disciplined. So in the same way fasting is a spiritual discipline, something that we practice regularly that will help us in our spiritual walk. Fasting, is it important to fast? Now that Jesus has died on the cross, he has given us salvation, we are blessed. Why should we fast? Is it necessary for believers to fast? What is your view? Yes, over here also people are saying yes. So it is necessary for us to fast. Jesus talked about fasting. We will see later on when he instructed his disciples, he said when you fast fast like this. So he gave instructions and also he pointed out that when he is gone or he is taken up at that time the disciples who follow him will fast. So this is something that has been given to the church or to the believers to do. So fasting is a part of our walk with the Lord. It's not that as believers we can say Jesus has already done everything on the cross so there is no more need to fast. So we don't say that because Jesus himself talked about fasting. What is the right way to fast and he also said that believers will fast when he is not on the earth. So fasting is essential for believers. But the important thing to understand is that is the correct way or proper way to do fasting. So we can do fasting but if we do it the wrong way it won't be that effective. So we need to understand the correct way or the proper way of fasting. That is what we will study from Isaiah 54 very soon. Now regarding fasting we also observe that there are different ways of fasting. So staying away from food it could be only partial meaning some meals we don't eat or some particular food we don't eat. For the sake of prayer we don't eat or it can be absolute. Absolute means completely we don't eat anything all the meals we are skipping. So that is absolute. We can either have partial fasting or we can practice what is known as absolute or complete fasting. Now we can fast as individuals meaning each one of us we can fast by ourselves or we can fast fast as a group. Two or three people you want to pray about a subject so you get together you fast and pray. So fasting and prayer can be done either way we can fast for any length of time. In the Bible we observe different kinds of timelines fasting can be done for one day. You see examples of that it's all there in the notes I'm not going verse by verse because there are lots and lots of verses. So it can be for one day or it can be three days like Esther we find three days she fasted then seven days isn't is also given in the Bible. 14 days 21 days Daniel fasted 21 days 40 days you know you find even Jesus he fasted 40 days. So there are different days that one can choose to fast. Now how do we choose these timelines and what exactly to fast it depends on how God is leading us and you know how we really want to seek him. So it depends on those things now why are we talking about fasting. We already know that we are saved by grace and we can't do good works to buy our salvation isn't it. Jesus has done his work on the cross that is why we have the blessings that we have. So just because we do the right things it doesn't sort of we're not trying to do it to get God's attention or a reward from God. You got it but the Bible does say that when we walk righteously we are blessed because there are results and blessings associated with the right doing the right things. So one thing we have to understand is fasting is not to get extra points you know if I may put it that way from God. So if I fast God will be so impressed with me that he will give me what I'm asking him for. So it's not like that but fasting has its benefits. We have to understand what are these benefits that we get when we fast. So some of them are it is a very helpful way to express our repentance or when we feel sorry about something. We can fast before God maybe we should not have done something and we did it or we didn't make the right decision. And we feel like oh I need to repent I need to say sorry to God. Fasting is a very good way that helps us express our repentance. It's very helpful that we can come before God and set our heart right in his presence. So we can take up fasting whenever we want to express our repentance. Then how else does fasting help? Fasting will help us to strengthen our focus. So let's say I'm my spiritual focus or attention. It's not you know I'm very distracted person like I'm not able to concentrate on the things of God. But if we start practicing fasting then we will begin to see that our focus becomes very sharp. Spiritual focus becomes very strong it becomes very sharp. So fasting has that ability. So someone said that you know in life and even our flesh right. We find many things that try to pull us or in other words you can put it like this. The noise the noise of the world the noise of the flesh everything wants to get our attention right. So we become distracted we don't know where to pay attention. But when we fast what happens is we become so we become stronger. And we don't get attracted by the world or we don't get attracted to the noises of our flesh. Like our flesh wants you know pleasure and approval so many things the wrong things that our flesh wants. But when we fast we develop a focus where we are able to shut down the noise. So primarily that's what fasting does for us. It will help us to shut down all the noise around us. And we can get intensely focused on the things of God. So are you all understanding what I'm trying to say if you have questions you can always ask me. So it helps us to focus. It also helps us become very intense in our desire for God.  Now we may have a level of love for God. But when we practice fasting it can intensify our desire for God can become deeper it can become stronger. Okay so if we want to love God more through fasting we can develop the intensity to love Him. Okay so it really helps in that way. Fasting also helps us develop discipline. How many of you can agree with me that fasting is very hard. It's very difficult anybody here you feel fasting is very easy for me it's very easy. Anyone like that can show us your hand. We have one person here who feels fasting is easy. Okay but in general I think for most of us fasting is difficult. Okay very honestly. So when we get into something like fasting it disciplines us. Because we have to say no to the desire of our flesh. We have to say no to comforts. We have to say no you know to many things only then we can fast successfully. And when we do that it pushes us and we become more and more disciplined. Right and we know that the Bible talks about the fruit of the spirit. So in the fruit of the spirit one aspect is self control. The fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, gentleness. In that list you will also find self control. So when the Holy Spirit is working in our lives we have to grow in self control. That is also a fruit of the spirit. Fasting will help us become more self controlled. Right in our emotions in everything we become more self controlled. We become more disciplined and therefore we can display the fruit of the spirit. It deepens consecration. See consecration means submission, surrender. So maybe there are times when we want to express our surrender to God. We are saying God I am committing my life to you. I am committing my life for the ministry. So when we are committing, when we are surrendering, when we are submitting a time of fasting helps. Because when we are fasting we are saying God I am making myself an offering to you. So that is consecration or dedication. So it helps us dedicate ourselves to God. So these are all the benefits of fasting. So a good thing to do is always think about what is the benefit. When you are doing something hard think of what is going to be the result. If the results are good it is worth going through the struggle of whatever it is. Fasting or disciplining ourselves. So these are the benefits. It is really helping us understand that we can become very focused on God. We can develop godly lives if we practice fasting. So this is the benefit or this is the advantage. Now what are some of the things that we can fast? What can we fast? Usually what do people fast? Food, isn't it? We let go of food. We don't eat certain foods or we don't eat certain meals for some days or a long period of time. Food is generally what people fast. But we can also fast things that we like. For example these days people spend more time on social media. They spend more time on the phone. More time maybe watching movies. More time in sports. So when we feel like we are giving more time to other things and not to God. We can also discipline ourselves by saying I will take the time which I am using for let's say social media or TV or movies or sports or going out. I will put that time for prayer. I will put that time for study of God's word. So one is we can fast food but we can also fast the activities which we like. You got it? So we can decide maybe for if I like something a lot. I am saying okay God I am going to keep that away. For whatever you know one, one, two months or six months I won't. I will just give my time to you. That is also a kind of fasting which we can undertake. And believe me it's not easy for our generation. Letting go of the whatever Instagram, Facebook. It's very hard. It's as good as fasting a meal because people are so addicted to leave it. They find it difficult. So we can also fast activities apart from food. So the decision is ours. What is it that has your attention? For some people maybe fasting that activity will be more beneficial than skipping a meal because their heart is fully in that activity. So we have to decide what is it that I need to fast in this season. But yes generally food because there are many examples about fasting food in the Bible. Now apart from this there is also something known as a fasted life. Okay, a fasted life. So that doesn't mean that somebody is not eating at all. It's not possible. Right.  So fasted life is it's not referring only to eating. But it's referring to a dedicated life dedicated life to God. So the fasted life comes from the example in the Old Testament. There was a group of people known as Nazarites. Do you know Samson Samson in the Bible? He was a Nazarite. So they would dedicate people to God and that person was supposed to avoid many things. Because their life was dedicated to God. So you know Samson he shouldn't cut his hair. He shouldn't drink intoxicated drinks. So those kind of there were many rules that the Nazarites had to follow because their life was a dedicated life. So Samson is Nazarite Samuel in the Bible Nazarite even Jesus is part of that Nazarite community. So from that example today.  But dedication to God through your life can be a commitment that you make. You can make your own decisions and say okay I will do this I will not do this. You make your own decisions.  That's Nazarite it's like a Nazarite. So we call it fasted life.  I'm going to say I got it as my dedication to God. So that also is something that we can practice and when we do that you would see greater strength and greater power. So as I said earlier Jesus encouraged fasting. So can we read from the passage Matthew chapter 9 verses 14 and 15. Could someone please turn your Bibles to that passage. Matthew chapter 9 verses 14 and 15. Yeah please read it. Okay so do you see the disciples of John came and asked Jesus why are your disciples not fasting. That time Jesus said no they will fast. They will fast when the bridegroom is taken away. So that means right now Jesus is not on the earth. He is in the presence of the Father. So this is the time that we are actually supposed to fast and pray. So the Bible does not say that believers don't have to fast. Just the way he talked about prayer he also talks about fasting and says that fasting is for the believer. And there are other passages as well that really help us understand you know that fasting is required. And that you know fasting is something like when Jesus made statements about fasting. He said when you fast right we'll go to those passages. When you fast he didn't say if you fast. So if means what? If means if you want to you fast if you don't want don't fast. But he said when you fast that means we are supposed to fast. Whenever we fast we have to follow what he says. So now let us talk about what is the right way of fasting or what is the correct or proper manner of fasting. And that is why we in our in our notes that is the word the chosen fast. Okay the chosen fast chosen is approved or selected selected by God. See when we fast that fast has to be approved by God or it should make God happy. If our fasting is not making God happy then it's not a chosen fast. So we need to know what is the right way to fast so that it makes God happy. So in Isaiah chapter 58 verses 1 through 14 we will study in sections about what is the way in which we should get ready to fast. Okay the attitude that we need to carry. Second is regarding why why should we fast or the purpose for which we are fasting and what are the promises of God. If we fast what can we expect in our lives. So let's begin with the preparation what does God require of us. So for this we will have to look at the passages Isaiah 58 verse 3 and verse 4. Can I read sister. Yes. Isaiah 58 verse 3. Why have we fasted they say and you have not seen. Why have we afflicted our souls and you take no notice. In fact in the day of your past you find pleasure and exploit all your laborers. Indeed you fast for strife and debate and to strike with the fist of wickedness. You will not fast as you do this day to make your voice heard on high. Okay. Yes. Sister can you read verse 5 also please. Yes. Is it a fast that I have chosen a day for a man to afflict his soul.  Would you call this a fast and an acceptable day to the Lord. Okay. So in verse 5 remember I said chosen fast. So God is asking is this the fast that I have chosen or is this the fast that I have approved or is this the fast which is acceptable to me. And God points out certain behaviors or attitudes that people have and he says that it's it's not correct the way people are fasting. So he's telling to the people you know who were fasting at the time when I was writing for them he points out you know a couple of things. He says that people have an attitude where they are asking God why did we fast and you have not seen why have we afflicted our souls and you have you take no notice. That means the reason they were fasting was to impress God that was their only goal that okay God you see you know I'm hungry I left I left this I let go of that I made so many sacrifices but you're not seeing.  Okay. That's not a good attitude with which we fast if we are fasting to say that look at me you know I'm so great. I'm sacrificing God you have to take attention and do something that attitude is not a right attitude. And God is saying I'm not happy with this kind of an attitude when you fast what is the second thing that he states there.  So this is this refers to there were people who were wealthy and they had servants and slaves. Okay. Now on the day of their fasting what they used to do is because they are fasting. Right. Then if they are fasting they are part of the work who will do what they used to do is they used to put extra work on the servants and the slaves. And they used to say see I am fasting today I can't do anything you have to do all the work. So there is no concern or care for the poor or the weak people. Okay. It's a very proud attitude. It's a very oppressive attitude with that attitude people are fasting all these you know very wealthy people very rich people and they were saying God see we are fasting for you. But God is saying but how are you fasting you're making the people around you suffer. So obviously all the servants and slaves when the fasting they might come they would have been so scared. Oh our work is going to become double and triple. Okay. So God is observing everything and he's saying it's not right. You're saying you're fasting but you're putting the load on the workers. You have no compassion. You have no concern for others and you're saying I'm fasting. What is this attitude? It's the wrong attitude. Right. So that is being pointed out and the next attitude that we notice here is what says you're doing it for your own interests. You're doing it for your own selfishness. Okay. So there is no surrender. There is no attitude of God. I'm submitting myself to you. You guide me. You lead me. Nothing like that. No humility in the fasting. It's full of selfishness selfish interest and we want God to answer. And we fast like that. God is saying it's not acceptable. I'm not happy even though we are sacrificing God is saying it's not acceptable. What else does he say there? He also says that there is strife right there is strife among you. So then that is pointing to a very important part of our lives which is relationships. So in verse four he says indeed you fast for strife and debate and to strike with the fist of wickedness. What does it mean? It simply means our relationships are not right. You know, we are angry with people. We are upset with people. We are fighting with people. We are quarrelling with people. There is a lot of strife. There are many relationships which are not right. And we are trying to fast and God is saying you go make everything right. Okay. So fasting is not just about avoiding food. God is looking at the whole life and the attitude that we carry when we come before him. Whether we are coming before him with humility surrender and also whether we are not just respecting God but respecting the relationships in our lives. You got it. So it's it's beyond just food or letting go of some choice activities right. So relationships, can you imagine God is saying you fast for strife and debate and strike with the fist of wickedness.  We should do it with the attitude where we set everything right. Now let's look at verse 5. There is one more aspect there that is covered. Verse 5 talks about the chosen fast. Is it a fast that I have chosen a day for a man to afflict his soul?  Would you call this a fast and an acceptable day to the Lord? Okay, let's go on. I think verse 6 we need to read. It says, is this not the fast that I have chosen to lose the bonds of wickedness to undo the heavy burdens to let the oppressed go free and that you break every yoke. So another attitude that we must carry when we fast is to remove burdens from people. Or it's simply, if you want to understand it in the simplest way, it means to have compassion. To have compassion for people, to have compassion especially for those who are weak. Those who may be weaker than us in some way. We must have compassion for them. If we don't have a heart of compassion, God says, what fasting are you doing? So these are all the attitudes that God wants us to have when we fast. And only then our fasting will be valid.  There are some instructions we'll read from verse 6 to verse 10. Can somebody read the whole thing? Verse 6 to verse 10. We'll explain that and then go on to others, other passages. Is this not the fast that I have chosen to lose the bonds of wickedness to undo the heavy burdens to let the oppressed go free and that you break every yoke?  When you see the lake that you cover him and not hide yourself from your own flesh, then your life shall break forth like the morning. Your healing shall spring forth quickly and your righteousness that will before you the glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard. Then you shall fall and the Lord will answer you.  If you take away the yoke from your wits, the pointing of the finger and speaking wickedness. If you extend your soul to the hungry and satisfied the afflicted soul, then your life shall drown in the darkness into darkness. So it will be as the noon today. Okay, so we find some instructions in between some blessings again going back to some instructions. So let's look at the instructions here verse 6 and 7 where the scripture is telling us that we must lose the bonds of wickedness. Lose the bonds of wickedness means that we need to stand on the side of justice. So when we don't stand on the side of justice, then again our fast is very empty. Okay, so we need to stand on the side of justice. That's a requirement and he also says you must undo the heavy burdens. Undo the heavy burdens means we should not exploit people. Exploit people again goes back to how maybe those days the people who were in leadership, they used to make, how do you put it? Exploit is when you're taking advantage of the workers, of the slaves. So God is saying we need to have compassion. As a leader, have compassion for the people and don't burden them, don't put loads on them which they cannot carry. So it has to do with living a life for justice and again compassion, the fear of God. These are all the attitudes. Fasting has more to do with the way we think, the way, the motivation of our heart. Okay, our attitude more than I fasted 40 days, I fasted 50 days. That's fine. How many days we are fasting and what sacrifice we are making is good. But it is deeper than that. God is looking at the heart of the person and saying is there justice in our heart? Is there compassion in our hearts? Is there the fear of God? We won't treat people badly when we fear God. So these are the things that one needs to understand as far as fasting is concerned. And you break every yoke. Every yoke simply means, if there are debts, when people owe us debts, we know in the matter of finances, this person owes me 100 rupees, that person owes me 200 rupees, they need to give it back. You need to give it back, you need to give it back. But sometimes we hold debts at an emotional level where we feel, people owe us, they owe us an explanation. We feel entitled, where everybody else, how could they behave like that? You owe me an explanation, you owe me a sorry. So we keep people in our hearts and it's as if everybody owes us something because there is unforgiveness. In our hearts. So unforgiveness again will affect the fasting which we perform or which we are engaging in. So God is saying, are there debts? Cancel the debts. Okay, forgive people. Let go. Okay, fine. They made a mistake. Whatever you come before me, settle it. Let them go. Cancel the debts. So a heart of forgiveness God is asking for when we come to Him with fasting and He also says, share your food, share your bread with the hungry. Again, it has to do, it has a lot to do with justice, heart of forgiveness, compassion. Again, compassion. So have compassion for the people. Take care of those who are poor. Bring to your house the poor who are passed out. So that means not only should we have a heart of compassion but be generous. Generous means what? We are willing to give. So if I have something, I am willing to give help people, care for people. So that is necessary as an attitude when we fast.  Generosity. Right? People may not have clothes. This is literal but we can also take it at another level to care for people. You know, cover their shame, help them. So things like that when we engage with that attitude, we are fasting becomes pleasing to God. And it also says, do not hide yourself from your own flesh. That means that, you know, we have responsibilities in our lives. We may have parents, you know, married people, your spouse, children, relatives. So we have all these people's relationships and all. So when we have these relationships and we have some responsibilities, we can't just say, my life is dedicated to God. You take care of yourself. I don't care. You do whatever you want because I'm living for God. Right? What are we doing? We are saying, I will not take responsibility for the people that God has put in my life. God doesn't want us to be irresponsible. So He's saying, you have a responsibility, fulfill your responsibility. Okay. Don't neglect people for the sake of, you know, I'm a Godly person. I'm dedicated to God. So you figure it out. No. Do we have a responsibility to be towards our parents, towards the spouse, towards children? Fulfill your responsibilities. That's what God is saying. Okay. So no excuses even with regard to that. So you, you see that overall when we look at where is God pointing to two things. He's pointing to our heart. What is the motivation behind what we are doing? Okay. Our heart. Second, he's pointing to our relationships. How are the relationships in my life? Are they healthy? Okay. Or am I constantly getting into trouble with people? Right? Because of whatever attitude, these two things, it matters a lot when we go before God in fasting. So God is looking at the heart. God is looking at the relationships. Okay. And when that is correct, we can engage in an effective fasting. So there are some more instructions. Verse nine and verse 10, he says, you know, take away the yoke from your midst. So that simply means, you know, put an end to oppression. So if we are burdening people, if there are unfair practices, right, we could have unfair practices like we can make one rule for ourselves, which is very easy. And we make another rule for the people who are working with us, working for us, which is difficult. And when they try to explain, no, this is not correct. You say, no, you do it. I don't know how you're going to do it, but you do it. So when we make things unfair, even that God says, it's not pleasing in my sight. And then it says, stop the pointing of the finger. Pointing of the finger is blaming, blaming people. So we are constantly saying, oh, he's not right. She's not right. They are not right. Blaming people, that attitude is not acceptable. Then it says, stop speaking wickedness. Wickedness means when we talk about other people, you know, the word is gossip. When we gossip or this person about their life about, you know, different things that they are doing or not doing. That is gossip. And God says, if we engage in gossip, then again, you know, our fasting is not acceptable. And extend your soul to the hungry generosity. Be generous to others. Satisfy the afflicted soul. That again means generosity helps somebody who is in need. So when we practice all these things, which are to do with the right motivation and right attitude, right relationships, then definitely God will accept our fasting. Okay, so suddenly fasting has become even more difficult now. First it was just not eating food, but now it has to do with everything. Right? So it's kind of tough, but we can ask God, please help me Lord every day to walk in this way. One more last instruction to make our fasting acceptable is Isaiah 58 and verse 13. And someone read it please. Isaiah 58 and verse 13. If you turn back your food from the Sabbath from doing your pleasure on my holy day and call the Sabbath in light and the holy day of the Lord honorable. If you honor it, not going your own ways or seeking your own pleasure or talking idly. So what God is reminding us is he's reminding us about the Sabbath. Okay, so the Sabbath we know that one day is set aside for the Lord. One day is set aside to honor God, one day is set aside to worship God, right? Now as people of God, if we don't take this seriously or basically it has to do with honoring God. It's not so much about which day it is, it's not that, but it's about making time for the Lord, whichever day of the week. But now we know we all practice Sundays as the day when we worship God. We honor God on that day. What does rest or Sabbath mean? It means that we are looking to God. So one day if we rest, if you ask people who don't believe in God, they'll say, oh my business will go down. My profit will go down. If I work another day, I'll get more profit. But what are we saying as believers? Yeah, one day we are taking a break, but God is my provider, right? So we are extending our faith unto the Lord and we are saying as I worship, my God will supply all my needs according to his riches in glory. So that one day we take to worship God, to honor God, right? So God is also saying that if we don't keep the Sabbath that day which is designated for worship and honoring of God, even then our fasting will be affected. Okay, so these are all the instructions apart from heart attitude, relationships. Third is honoring God. If you're not honoring God with our resources at time, then also our fasting will not be acceptable. Okay, so these are the instructions. When we come back, we will look at the blessings. So if we do fasting in the right way, there are going to be a lot of blessings. So we will look at that. If you have any questions after the break, you can ask me, right? So we'll take a break, 10 minutes and then we can come back and discuss. Thank you.


Yeah. Well, something about a Linux project in Munich, and I have to say at first, I'm not a developer. I'm a user. I used the software you are developing, and I want to show you why and what are we using free software and open standards in Munich. Let me start a short explanation of what is Munich. OK, it's a very big city in Germany, in the southern part of Germany, and some aggressions. On the upper left corner, you see our beautiful city hall. And if you have been to Grand Plaza here in Brussels, you see the original. In Munich, we have a copy of it. So it's a backup of the city hall from Brussels. And another short and very good link to Brussels. Who have attended the beer event yesterday? Few? OK, most of them. We in Munich have also a beer event every year in October. The October fest, maybe you know. But it was always some yesterday being here in the beer event for them. Really great. OK, that's Munich, southern part of Germany, one of the IT centers in Europe. What are we doing? Well, there are many, many rumors about the Linux project and why we started it in the past. And the only reason why we started to think about free software and open standard was Microsoft. Microsoft told us you can't use the operating system and the office system you are using at the moment in 2001, I think they told us. So we had to look for alternatives. And we did it. We decided to use alternatives, not the way Microsoft thought we would do. What have we done during the past? We decided in 2003, and maybe you've heard about it, in 2004, five, six, seven, and so on. Why is not finished already? Well, we are preparing. We are doing prototyping. And during the last two years, our main focus was to get rid of the vendor logins in the office product, to get open office running everywhere in our city. That's the first login we have to get rid of. One business application, legacy application, something like this, using exactly one exchange format, using one API for one office product by Microsoft. And this office product just runs under a Microsoft operating system. Though it was our task to get rid of this, to open up our office infrastructure in the first step, running open office on Windows clients and Linux clients, and then be prepared for the next step. After using open standards, we can use open source everywhere for the desktop, for the operating system, for the office product. Though the upcoming two years will be our client rollout phase, now we completed the switch to open office. As I told you, our city council decided to go to free software and open standard for our desktops and to be more platform open in the business applications. Why did he decide this? As I told you, Microsoft company finished support and said, go ahead, take the next version, take the next license. So we did a pre-study. And we examined different alternatives for our future. And we told our city council members, well, you can go on using Microsoft products. That's no problem, you invest some money in licenses and yes, would be fine. But I think a little bit further, you can also invest some more money for instance, but you can have many benefits. You can have many benefits. Do you want to choose yourself what you really want to do with your IT infrastructure? So they agreed. We said, okay, let's increase the independence, not only from one software vendor, but from the whole ecosystem built on proprietary software, consultants, platforms, timelines, and so on. Then another argument was, well, the members of city council, we have a very strong economy in Germany, in Europe, especially in the sector of small and medium sized enterprises, offering solutions on free software and open standards, consultancies, support and so on. Do you want to invest in the local economy or do you want to invest in one big global player situated in the US? We are not unhappy about the US, but we are unhappy about one global player in this field. Yes, and our city council said, okay, it's a nice idea. More competition, let's do this. Well, one short story at this point, at last year's CBIT trade fair in Hannover, it's the world largest IT trade fair. I walked through the empty halls, exhibitors, a resident exhibitors, no visitors there, but okay, that's another story. And one Microsoft guy talked to the audience, wow, it's great. We are big economic power here in Germany. There are about 33,000 certified Microsoft partners. That's really economy. Everyone can take part in this market and many, many small, medium sized companies. Wow, it's great, it's really great. 33,000 certified Microsoft partners, people who can offer services for Microsoft solutions. I had a talk afterwards, and I told the audience, it's great. In the field of free software and open standards, especially in Germany, there are about 80 million people who can participate in the free market. Every citizen is possible to take part in this market. Of course, that's a funny example, but it's exactly what we want to achieve, not one company controlling who can start participating in the market by certification or something like this. Everyone can if he wants. Though more competition in the software market, and of course for us, it's a reason as public administration to save costs, not in the short term. Staying in the same system you're running, in our case, Microsoft software, will have lower cost. But save money in the long term because of the increased independence is one of our targets. Our current numbers, as I told you before, we did it. We did the complete switch to open office using the open document format, the open standard for our internal document exchange. And we linked it. We linked it to many, many business applications we are using. For example, SAP for human resource management and our financial management. We get open documents, we get documents and open document format from this business applications and can edit it using open office or any other implementation. We are using open office in Munich. Additional 28,000 open office installations in Munich schools, why this? Because we do not want to say to the parents of our pupils, you have to buy licenses if your children want to take part in the lessons. So you can use Microsoft software at home, you can use open source software at home. In school you find everything. Well, and during the last two years we did many, many pilot projects. For the next step, we are actually preparing to switch over the desktop operating system to a Linux-based operating system and there are about 2,500 clients running at the moment and 50% of the estimated budget is still available. So it's not a project running out of costs. Some technical details, we are here at Forstheim, of course, so we use completely free operating system as a base for our desktop clients. In our case, a Debian client. It could even be a Ubuntu client, a Fedora client, an OpenSusie client or something like this. Doesn't matter, we use free software as distribution. Of course, we are Germans, we're using the KDE. Desktop environment, I'm sorry. GNOME is not bad, KDE is not better. We've chosen KDE and it's the Situation Munich. OpenOffice, as I told you, and we use Thunderbird and Firefox and I pronounce it Thunderbird and Firefox. We do not use I3sl or iStuff instead, we are using Debian. For software distribution, some tools written in the University of Cologne fully automatic installation for software distribution and another web-based installer and GOSA, it's called GoniCo System Administrator to administer our clients. Well, some screenshots, it's nothing new for you. You know how a desktop or Linux desktop looks like. Some unique impressions also for our employees, so it's a nice tool. It's a nice desktop, you are happy starting this, you're seeing some impressions from your city again, our city hall, the copy of the Brussels one at the beginning. Well, this is nearly my last slide. Why I'm showing you this. That's the slide I'm showing to public administrations and governments I'm talking to. But I also will let you see what we are talking to them and that's our message. People, as public administration, you are spending the money of your taxpayers. You do not spend money anyone donates to you or something like this. You're spending the money of your taxpayers, so you have a social responsibility in our opinion. And you have two choices. Invest this money into the right to use software then buy licenses, no problem. Or invest this money at first into the economy, maybe local economy, in this area of open source software and open standards, many, many companies as I told you before, but you're choosing this alternative. There's a second benefit for you. The second benefit will be every result, every gained knowledge during this investment in free software is available to everyone. So, dear public administrations, choose do you want to buy licenses or do you want to invest in economy and in knowledge of your people. And exactly this is what we are trying to increase in talks and discussions and so on, but we are talking to others. So feel free, if you meet your politicians, ask them exactly the same questions. I will hear the answers. And there are some initiatives around Europe. Have a look at osu.eu, it's a network for collaboration among public authorities and it's spreading collaboration would be a great benefit for many, many of us for the future using the software you are writing, you are developing, you are improving also in the public sector. So it's nearly the end. Thank you very much for your attention. If you want to have further information, feel free to ask. I'm here today, I'm here tomorrow and speaking in web 2.0, please follow me maybe on identica or on Twitter. Thank you very much.


In one hadith, Hamad ibn Uthman and in another similar hadith Abu Ubaidah, both companions of Imam al-Sadiq alaihi s-salam, they narrate this beautiful hadith from Imam al-Sadiq alaihi s-salam in describing to us what the Book of Fatima is, what is Mus'haf Fatima? Hamad ibn Uthman and Abu Ubaidah they narrate, they say that, Imam al-Sadiq alaihi s-salam told them, when the Prophet peace be upon him passed away, Fatima t-Zahra alaihi s-salam did not live for long. She lived for about 75 days after the departure of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him. Fatima t-Zahra alaihi s-salam became engulfed with grief, sadness and sorrow. She was extremely grief-stricken after the death of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him. No one in the world was saddened and struck with grief like Fatima alaihi s-salam. Therefore Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala sent one of his angels, one hadith says it was jubra'een. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala sent jubra'een to go and give comfort to Fatima alaihi s-salam. No the greatness of Fatima that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala sends his greatest angel or one of his greatest angels to go and comfort Fatima. To give her consolation, to speak with her, to lift her out of that immense grief that she was experiencing. In order to lift her out of that grief, the angel jubra'een would speak to Fatima and he would share with her a lot of information. He would give her knowledge, he would tell her where the Prophet is, how the Prophet is, what is the status of the Prophet and that would give comfort to Fatima. And Imam alaihi bin al-Yatana alaihi s-salam would record everything that the angels were sharing with Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam. He would record it all until it became into a book and this is the book of Fatima alaihi s-salam. It is truly an amazing book. Now there are some Muslims from other schools of thought that will attack the followers of Ahlul Bayt and say you Shia, you the followers of Ahlul Bayt are taking it a little bit too far. What is this exaggeration and idolization that you are ascribing to Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam? This is heresy. Fatima was not a messenger, she was not a prophet. How can you claim that she received revelation from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala? Are you claiming that you have a second Qur'an? You have another Qur'an that she received from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala? What of the names of Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam was an muhaditha, the one who was spoken to? Imam al-Zahra alaihi s-salam describes the meaning of this word. Imam al-Zahra alaihi s-salam says Fatima was given this title, this name because the angels would communicate with her just as the angels would communicate with Maryam alaihi s-salam. Just as they would speak to Maryam, they would speak to Fatima and they would say to her, oh Fatima Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has purified you. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has chosen you over the ladies of the world.  In fact, all of the Imam al-Zahra al-Bayt were muhaditheen. They were spoken to by the angels. In one hadith Imam al-Ibn al-Riqaleem alaihi s-salam says, I and my progeny the Imam al-Zahra al-Bayt are all muhadith. We have been spoken to by the angels of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. Sunaym ibn Qais, one of the companions of Imam al-Mu'mineen alaihi s-salam, he says, one day I asked Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr, Muhammad the son of Abu Bakr, which you really don't hear about when you hear what other schools of thought have to say.  How come there is absolutely no mention of him? It's because he loved Imam Ali ibn al-Riqaleem alaihi s-salam. Look at the oppression and injustice towards the Arabic. Whoever was close to them and followed them and loved them, you find no mention of them in other schools of thought. Sunaym ibn Qais says, I asked Muhammad the son of Abu Bakr one day. I told him, is Imam Ali ibn Abi Bakr a muhadath, is he spoken to? He said yes, of course he is, and not only is he spoken to, but Fatima alaihi s-salam, even though she's not a prophet, she's not a messenger, but she was also spoken to. The Qur'an demonstrates to us that one does not necessarily have to be a messenger or prophet to receive revelation from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. So it's not an exaggeration to say that Fatima alaihi s-salam received revelation. When the mother of Musa received revelation according to the Qur'an, when Maryam alaihi s-salam received revelation according to the Qur'an, when Sarah the wife of Ibrahim received revelation according to the Holy Qur'an. Is it too much for us to accept that Fatima, the very daughter of the greatest messenger of Allah, would also receive revelation? Where is the exaggeration in that? Where is the problem in that? Isn't Fatima alaihi s-salam above these three other women who received revelation? If they could receive revelation, why can't she? Even if you refer to books like Bukhari, they demonstrate to you that Fatima alaihi s-salam is better than Maryam. There is a hadith in Sahih al-Bukhari which says, Fatima Sayyidat al-Nisa'i Ahl al-Jannah. Fatima is the leader of the women of Paradise. I ask you, is Maryam alaihi s-salam in Paradise or not? Is it she amongst the women of Paradise? If Fatima is the leader of the women of Paradise, is it she higher in rank in the eyes of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala than Maryam alaihi s-salam? And if Maryam could receive revelation, as confirmed by the Holy Qur'an, then why cannot Fatima alaihi s-salam receive revelation from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala? Where is the harm in believing that? Where is the heresy? There is another hadith by Al-Hakim al-Nisa'aburi, a prominent Sunni scholar. He narrates a hadith. He says, Aisha is the one who narrates this hadith. She says, when the Prophet peace be upon him shortly before he passed away, when he was on his deathbed, he said to Fatima alaihi s-salam because she was very upset to lose her father. He told her, Oh Fatima, be satisfied. Are you not satisfied because Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has made you the best woman out of all the women of the world. And you shall be the leader of the women in Paradise. And you are the leader of the believing women. This demonstrates that Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam was the best woman Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala ever created. Therefore, where is the harm in believing that she received revelation from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala? So this book, the book of Fatima alaihi s-salam, what exactly does it contain? The angels who spoke to her, what did they speak in those books? What is the theme of the book of Fatima alaihi s-salam? The primary theme of the book of Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam is that it contains all past events, current events and future events. Everything Imam al-Sahab alaihi s-salam says is contained in the book of Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam. Another aspect that is contained in the book of Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam is the will of Fatima alaihi s-salam with respect to her children, the Imams of Ahlul Bayt. And also the endowments that she had. This will is contained in the book of Fatima al-Pisbih upon her. Also some minor Islamic laws, even Imam al-Sahab alaihi s-salam says, You know if someone injures you or scratches you, there is a retribution money that you have to pay.  It's called Arsh in Islamic law. Imam al-Sahab alaihi s-salam says even that is mentioned in the book of Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam. What else is mentioned in this book? The status of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him, his rank in paradise with all the details is mentioned in the book of Fatima. All future events are mentioned in the book of Fatima al-Zahra alaihi s-salam, especially the events that would happen to the progeny of Fatima al-Zahra till the day of judgment is all contained in this amazing book. Now Imam al-Sahab alaihi s-salam is very clear that this book is not a second Quran as some ignorant Muslims might think. The Imam says it contains nothing from the Holy Quran. Don't confuse it with the Quran. This has nothing to do with the Holy Quran. The Holy Quran has its own status. It is the highest book God ever has given to humanity. The book of Fatima is not a second Quran. And it's not to be confused with the book of Allah SWT.  So you Shi'a's are claiming that this is the Quran of Fatima. Unfortunately these people have not understood the meaning of the word Mus'haf in the Arabic language. In Arabic the word Mus'haf simply means papers stacked in a book. When you have papers and you compile them into a book this is called Mus'haf. And the reason why the Holy Quran today is called Mus'haf is because it is also a book. However if you refer to the Holy Quran and the Ahadith, the narrations of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him during his lifetime never was the Holy Quran referred to as the Mus'haf. This was a later term that the Muslims used to describe the Holy Quran. Otherwise in the Holy Quran the Quran is not referred to as Mus'haf. The Prophet peace be upon him never referred to the Holy Quran as being the Mus'haf. This is a later terminology that the Muslims used to describe the Holy Quran. So in the Imams of Ahadith Bayt say Mus'haf Fatima it simply means the book of Fatima. Which the angels gave her the knowledge Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib would write it into a book.


I know the the piano's a little jarring. It's temporary. I think right there. Not sure welcome back to the channel My name is Jack the boss or I should know we have some 36 of our Dragon Ball Super watch through today And it's Vegeta versus Magetta a robot for the robot is technically a living thing And honestly it looks pretty dead even right now although Chapa did kind of adjust the rules so that Vegeta wasn't able to fly up Really high and avoid McKenna's attacks, but at what point did all these fights have integrity anyways? We're gonna hop right into it if you knew the channel chop a sub and hit that big blue bell and let's get started I just like these random phrases.  It's gonna be an endurance thing No way is heat-cheating too, right? Oh No Yeah, what's going on here? I mean aside from him changing the size of the arena You can hear him laughing from over there He rises he doesn't care about safety. It was all just a trick Okay, so yeah, it was just because of the barrier. Is it seeping out? No, there's something going the referee. He's a god damn.  My goodness that is insane Well that guy is not getting paid enough brother Always combining it it explodes. Oh my gosh. No shot, but you're gonna lose to a robot So my third logic Megetta's more human than the androids we know He actually farted Oh, he actually said to do just losing stamina by the minute. He's not gonna be able to go Super Saiyan soon No, that's what that's what they say whenever he's definitely not met his match He has to win this though.  Okay. He's just charging key Can he go Super Saiyan blue like he did in resurrection ever is is it just because he's like it completely exhausted at this point How hot is inside? I'd like to get an idea of the temperature though, too.  Maybe wait for his mouth to open.  Is it he didn't yell gala gun What is the lava doing? Hardening Wait, I think the robot is going up there. It was a screen. Oh I've got a club Yo, hey, you've got you've got it man. That was pretty insane. Oh My gosh He's out.  There's no way.  Referee Okay, why didn't he sit that long You're so far up there. He's gonna show them the cam. Oh, how lucky bro Now beers can't make the argument of the ref his butt My gosh, what a healthy relationship That he's getting beat. Oh, yeah, he's pissed 1 million percent. No, he is angry look at this man How does he win this robot's like in a movable object? What is this man thinking bro wait bring the barrier to him? Oh, we got on him What can this saying do Oh, what does he do? Oh, he's gonna break the barrier. Oh, if there's no barrier, there's no limiting space Dang, oh my god, bro. This guy is an animal. Oh, no, what about the spectators? Look you're starting to see how he could be the toughest guy in the whole universe I still don't understand This is gonna be the longest running joke in this series. I bet on it All right. Well that that hot air can't get trapped in anymore. Well Vegeta is still kind of exhausted a bit Especially I'm guessing after that Is that final flash? I think is that the stance for final flash like arcing. Oh my gosh, like uncontrollable Chugga chugga. He's like I can do that too good destroy the whole arena Oh That character design for my ghetto is so good. It's so good. He is trying. Oh, what is final flash? I'm so proud of myself for recognizing the pose. It's gotta be stronger. It's much stronger asses It's gonna overload. It is overloading Oh, he's dizzy Oh He blocked. Nah, yeah, he's not done. I heard his feelings. Oh Gd, that's it Goku's like that's my Vegeta surely doesn't like stuff. No. Yep. That's it. That is game, baby That's my saying is it easy peasy didn't even sweat it I guess you should have given me time to strengthen that barrier Roll the dome fix is it instantly? Feel bad my ghetto you see my ghetto was rather hurt by the remark The metal man race are extraordinarily sensitive the right insult during combat can reduce them to a puddle rendering them apologize Vegeta didn't say anything even what Vegeta was about to oh, so he had insulted him during the fight Oh my gosh, I mean if you start that's what I was saying man That's a lot of like I feel like drag what dragon ball is in terms of the power scaling Please don't tell me that guy's next now. He has to be the last fighter Is this saying next dude? Why do I feel like this this kid's gonna get just like obliterated now? It's my turn to fight. I mean he seems shocked by Vegeta's power Dragon Ball Vegeta versus another Saiyan well that fight delivered for sure best fight of the of this Like I guess tournaments so far even out matching though the frost stuff is because like I said I like Megetta's design and just the whole robot thing is just cool to me I don't know why plus you know like the scale of everything with the stage getting blown apart But now we're getting to the characters that I'm most intrigued by though is like I said the Saiyan and whoever this other guy Is that we've already seen sort of what his powers do who seems like he's going to literally not be beatable And of course we still have Manaka because that's been it for episode 36 for a dragon ball super watch Drop a fat like on this one you've ever already and I'll catch you in the next one this base