Friday, happy New Year's, everyone watching this video. 2018 has been absolutely insane for myself, for amusement insiders, and I guess just for me in general, becoming a part of the coaster community. I've gone through a lot and I've learned a lot. I'm gonna kind of go over a few of the things that have happened in 2018 and what I've learned and how I've developed because I was actually sitting down the last couple of days and watching some clips from when I first started. And I didn't realize how much I have changed. It was actually kind of shocking to see and hear myself in my first videos compared to now. For a lot of you that don't know, and again, I'm planning on doing a video that kind of like introduces me, which will help introduce the vlog season in 2019. So there'll be a lot more of me actually in videos, my actual presence, not just my voice. So that's something I look forward to slash I'm nervous for in 2019. So you'll learn more about why I've been avoiding that and kind of like why, for anyone that's met me in person or at Canada's Wonderland or like, you know, at other parks because I have met people at Cedar Point and stuff, you'll understand why when you first meet me, I'm kind of socially awkward. I'm definitely very socially awkward in person. And I've kind of started to realize that that has been slowly drifting away. I've been kind of like an onion and you know, my outer shell is being peeled away and it's kind of unique and awesome to see that happening. I've noticed that my voice has changed over time. I've definitely gotten a lot more excited about things or more open is the better word. Whereas before I was very nervous about what people thought about me. If someone didn't like me, it really hurt. And I've definitely been more kind of like shielded from all that stuff, which is super awesome because the old me definitely would have been in my bed crying for hours on end. Every time someone didn't like me or someone didn't like something I did. And thanks to my team, they've been a huge part of my development in getting me used to being online and on YouTube and having haters. Cause no matter who you are, no matter what channel, no matter what you're covering, you're always going to have people that don't like what you do or people that kind of go after what you do and attack you. And that's totally normal. And before I didn't like that. I'm gonna be honest, it definitely really got to me. There were some weeks where I had mental breakdowns and my team had to be like running like just overcome it. Everyone goes through this, it's totally okay. You probably saw it in days where there wasn't a video upload or there were a couple of days where there wasn't a video upload. Those were usually days that I was having a mental breakdown. Or if you ever saw a day where I would double upload something or upload just footage with music, definitely having a mental breakdown, letting you guys into my life right now, which is super weird for me as well. But yeah, definitely overcoming that has been a huge thing. I've noticed over the last three weeks, especially there's been a big change. And this is what's special. The team I have, the friends I've made and I've made very diverse friends. I've made friends that have very strong opinions that don't correlate with my opinions at all. And that's been super unique too. Cause a lot of the times in the Coaster community, when someone doesn't agree with something that you don't agree with or you agree with, you end up hating each other. And I've been a huge advocate to like kind of erase that. I hate that part of the Coaster community. It really upsets me that if someone like Steel Vengeance more than El Toro, they're immediately viewed as a horrible person. And vice versa, if someone likes El Toro more than Steel Vengeance, they're immediately a bad person too. And it's just this giant war back and forth. And it's gotten kind of like irritating to me to like see that. And I know there's no fix to that, but for anyone that's been in my Discord server, I don't know why I said Discord so weird, you know that we're very against that and we try to like limit any like negativity or we don't allow swearing, we don't allow this. And yes, we are kind of like strict in terms of that for Discord, but I kind of like to keep all that negativity away. And it kind of like almost like prevent Coaster talk in general because sometimes the Coaster community like, you know, talk here and there is great, but like it can get really ugly really quick without even any notice whatsoever. Anyways, that aside, the Coaster community is still an amazing community. I've met some amazing people and I've had some amazing conversations. I've learned so much. People are teaching me how to play Planet Coaster right now. I plan on learning No Limits as well. I used to play No Limits a lot. And people are just teaching me stuff in general in Europe. A lot of European people I've met, he are starting our influencer program in Europe as well. Again, I feel like Europe is very underrated for the North American YouTubers. I wanna give it a presence it deserves. So working on that for 2019, so you have that to look forward to, you have the vlogs with me to look forward to. Craig is gonna start his whole vlogging session in 2019. And we have the AI gaming channel, which is almost ready to go. The channel's set up and ready to go. We'll be announcing it shortly once we have a bunch of content lined up. So I'm super excited about that. 2019 is going to be absolutely insane. I've learned again so much in 2018 about myself. Definitely YouTube and the Coaster community and my friends that I've met through this journey are helping me evolve into a much better person. So I'm excited to finally come out of my shell and start destroying this wall I built up with just my voice on YouTube and show you guys me, Brendan Cross, in 2019. And I think you guys, despite a lot of you maybe disagreeing with my opinions, I know that I have some very weird opinions in the Coaster community in terms of what is a good ride and what isn't a good ride. But I'm definitely one of those people that don't think there is a bad ride. I like all rides, I just prefer theming. And I prefer a good show versus a high thrill. So that's what I bring that's unique. And a lot of you may not like that. I totally understand that. I'm one of those people that are like, if you don't like my opinions, I get my opinions are weird. So that's totally okay. But yeah, I'm excited. You're gonna start seeing my top 10s, my top 25s and my top 100 lists coming out soon. And I'm ready and I'm excited for the reactions that it's going to get. Again, I did my top five Canon's Wonderland video and there's a lot of dislikes. And I totally understand why there's dislikes. It is a very weird list. But I am so excited again for 2019. 2018 has been an amazing year for me. And thanks to you guys who have met me and kind of dealt with my social anxiety and my social awkwardness at Canon's Wonderland or in person. I'm sure anyone who's met me totally knows what I'm talking about right now. I'll kind of just stand there and not talk for the first like 30 seconds or I'll give like one word answers to questions because I'm kind of like sitting there analyzing the situation just because of my social anxiety. But it's something I'm working on. It's something I'm overcoming slowly. And I have a feeling my goal for 2019 is to completely overcome my social anxiety.  I want to do things that I wouldn't do before like get in an airplane. I have a huge fear of airplanes even though I've been in them, they scare me. And that's just a lot of goals of overcoming my fears in 2019. And amusement insiders is definitely a huge part of that. So amusement insiders to me just isn't some YouTube channel that is making videos on Yukon Striker. It's an ever evolving channel that is evolving myself. It's evolving my abilities. When I first started, I was looking at my editing and the footage and I'm almost embarrassed by the stuff I put out. PowerPoint was heavily used in my older stuff. I've definitely come a long ways from PowerPoint. My voiceovers were very boring and dull. I sounded like I wasn't enjoying what I did. Again, that was just my social anxiety not really me. I was just nervous about how people would, you know, take my videos and my voice. And I was so nervous that I almost sounded bored or dull and I wasn't meaning to. So definitely have come a long way and I really owe it to you guys. Like I honestly do. I know every YouTuber says this all the time. Thank you so much for being a part of my journey. I've been saying it a lot more lately and you guys are probably like, oh, here he goes again, just saying it again. No, like you guys don't understand. You guys have been a huge part to me overcoming my social anxiety and becoming a much better person. And you'll never know how important you guys are to me for those of you that have been really helping me along the way. And even my haters. My haters have been helping me too. Like, you know, like helping me learn to not take it all in. And, you know, even if you're a hater, like I've learned a lot from some of my haters as well, like in terms of editing and voiceovers and what footage to use. I remember my first cinematic shots, my first construction tour of Yukon Striker and it got a decent amount of hate. It got a lot of support too. Got like 5,000 something views. A lot of people liked it. But for those of you that were commenting like the music choice, you know, I remember when I used to use this epic end of the world battle music in my videos for every video. And you helped me guide me to this new genre of music that I absolutely love. Cinematic, calm music that really sets the tone. So again, haters and hate comments or constructive criticism is not a bad thing. And I really do enjoy it. And I really owe it to you guys for helping me develop. Anyways, I just wanted to give you guys a quick wrap up of my 2018 season and my 2018 with the Musement Insiders. I owe a huge thank you to my team that has helped me. I have a really close, small team with me. I owe a lot to Krega, Jazm, my close team, those that have been helping me along the way. Thank you so much. I owe a huge thank you to Canada's Wonderland. They've been a huge part of my development, the team at Canada's Wonderland as well. Thank you so much. And a huge thank you to all those parks that have been adding us to their media list. We've had parks reaching out to us actually with this new Influencer program. And we have a ton of construction tours coming up for you guys in 2019. I think we have some coming up late January, some in February. And we're not talking again as one of them. We're talking construction tours at other parks. Stay tuned for that. The Influencer program is really taking off. Parks really want to work with a YouTube channel that has these influencers. They're gonna go vlog and promote them. So I look forward to telling you more about the Influencer program and why I've been working on it so much. But I'm so excited for 2019. Amusement Insiders went from Canada's Wonderland fan and simply with just a drone covering outside the park footage to now blossoming into this in the park close update media list YouTube channel that is now covering Europe, Asia, North America and even a bit of South America coming soon for you guys. So again, I owe a huge thank you to my influencers, my team, Jazm for her amazing ride history, park history videos and you guys. Thank you so much for an amazing 2018. I look forward to 2019 so much. Can't wait to start it tomorrow. I'm gonna work on my new year's resolutions. So comment down below what your new year's resolution is for 2019 and what you look forward to most. Thanks for watching guys. Don't forget to give the videos a like, subscribe if you haven't and share this video for others to enjoy. And one last already for 2018. Alrighty. That was really cheesy. Anyways, have a good one guys. Bye.


everyone and welcome. This is Melissa Arnold of Stocks, Washington Review in Disney. Nice, nice, nice move today by Disney and I had almost given up on it, but that's the reason why I tell people not to kill any trades. This is the exact reason of exactly what I'm discussing. So you gotta hold the conviction, stay with the conviction.  Yeah, it was last week. It was Friday. I called the 141 and 142 calls in this expiring Friday. Today's Wednesday. These are up, these are good. You could still be in them. You could have announced this is a great move and we ended up doing the day trade in this.  I mean, I'm just like, I shouldn't say that I'm surprised, but I mean, again, it just goes back to the same thing I've said over and over and over again. Dreamtart and this is 150, holy cannolis. Wow. And this came out of nowhere. This is almost gone 10 points today. Actually, from the low it has. Oh, this is insane. So anyways, long story short, the Disney earnings were last week and there was a trade I called before the earnings that worked. Then I called trades on this day. They were down, down, down, down, down, down. And even this morning I'm like, well, whatever with this now. But it had two days left to go or three days left to go, barely. And then all of a sudden it got a pot. Happened right at 12 o'clock. There was news that came out. It doesn't matter the reason, I don't even care. But the trades were already in and then all of a sudden they flew. And again, this goes back to what we were talking about about options and how, I mean, you can make a lot of money in options. They're volatile. But that's how you can make a lot of money in anything with a small risk. And this was a great price for these trades and they are going. And again, you could be out. So wonderful, wonderful, wonderful move in Disney today. We'll see where this goes. 145 is the next target. It does look like it's going to get there today. It's only 115 and we'll see where this goes. Congratulations everybody that hung with it. I certainly hope that everybody did. And good luck. We'll see what tomorrow brings.


So the women's team this year, so some of our goals would be And again, these are goals that that they're gonna they've come up with themselves like I mean I'm real big on like I'm not gonna tell them what their goals should be They need to meet us a team and come up with team goals They number one they want to improve on what they've done the previous years and last year They finished seventh in the conference this year Definitely want to be top five and I feel like they kind of have that outside shot of finishing in that top three in The conference this year and again number one goal just improve improve on last year and same thing with regionals Improve on their regional finish from last year, and then we do have some individuals that that do have kind of an outside shot at maybe Finishing really high in the conference and qualifying for nationals obviously Kelly Winklebauer who's now a senior and returning from last year being fifth in the conference and 31st in the region so we want to improve on that and and Just for everybody to improve I mean we have we have really good group coming back with a chole adola and Emily Gaetz and cj morris and now we we're adding a really good freshman in in mckayla sabo So we're we got a really good group of woman and i'm kind of looking forward to to see what they can do this season So on the men's side, I would say since last year finished second at Conferences and the mac they really since that day their goal has been to to win it this year and Really careful with setting goals to win because I mean they really have to Put in the work and focus on the day-to-day in order to get to that spot but they definitely want to want to win the the middle of that conference this year and then improve on our finish at regionals last year which was seventh place And I mean if we finish Top five in the region. There's always that shot of getting to nationals with the large process So that's definitely something that's in the back of their minds as well So, I mean with langston gash and patrick watson. I mean both of them qualified for nationals last year They've kind of took over as as kind of team leaders, but we also have several other seniors this year and bret olin sam rick holy Um jackson morrow. These are all guys that that have been this is their fourth year here They're part of our first recruiting class and have kind of always been the guys that we kind of looked up to So I wouldn't say there's necessarily One or one or two people that stand out. It's kind of that whole group of that that senior class that That kind of take control Yeah, so the key is for them obtaining their goals and and hopefully winning the conference and doing as well as we want in the region Um, it's number one. It's just focused on the day-to-day and that could be as simple as diet and sleep Um, holding each other accountable and that's that's kind of our big thing is they come they come up with goals as a team And because they came up with those goals as a team, they'll hold each other accountable So, I'd say that's probably the number one thing


Hello. Hello. Can people hear me? We can. Excellent. Excellent. I always forget to turn my chat off and then, you know, all sorts of wonderful people send me messages during my talks as the form. What are you talking about? And then anyway, um, so I've turned that off. Hopefully you can see my screen. It looks purple. Well, now it looks white with purple with purple, even better. You can see that. The ecosystem e-bits, if that's all right, and hopefully there'll be something interesting there. And the economic sounds dry, but really it's a huge driver of what we do. So this is what I'm going to talk about. And here's a picture of an ecosystem. Look at it in its beautiful glorious richness. So I want to look at the incentives that people have that are in our project and look at some of the different kinds of things. So I start, of course, with volunteers, people who get involved there. And there are several basic human interaction types. And this sort of kin selection, this mutualism, share and share alike is an important way that people interact. And, you know, I don't want to do anything to diminish that, but I think there are often other motivations that help here. So it's not just the fun and the friendship and the, um, that sort of stuff, but also people love to get mentoring and they learn to learn things, improve their CV, they can get certified. Interestingly, people used to get job titles in the open office days and be able to charge money for being the lead of whatever open office conferences. Lots of people love their native languages. And so they transfer that, you know, mutualism of love nation into the project and they do a great job making it work in Welsh or whatever. And some people care passionately about software liberty. Personally, they do that and other people care, you know, deeply about giving something freely to, you know, for people who can't afford it otherwise. And lots of people in the ecosystem, you know, the ecosystem, I talk about companies companies that don't really exist. Foundations don't really exist either. It's just a group of people who work together and, you know, often get paid obviously, but there's still a whole load of individuals that it's good to see that. So it's in this volunteers and then there's the rest of the ecosystem, which broadly works on reciprocity. You know, I pay you something and you'll do something for me, you know, something like this and this is another very fundamental. I want one of the three major relationship types that at least Steven Pinker pulls out in his thinking. And so I'll get through some of these different kinds. So first of all, the corporate contributors. They get customers to pay the money and they get goods and services back. Obviously, the customers get that. And then they give this back to the community. They publish it back as FOS. They embed it in the community. These are the good guys, I hope. And hopefully you know these people. You know, there's Red Hat, CIB, Lonido, Agalia, some of these people are no longer there, but there are a lot of people contributing there into the ecosystem. We should be thanking them. Of course, perhaps that's not entirely altruistic. They also have goals such as, you know, reducing maintenance costs, motivating their staff and fundamentally marketing. You know, I think the contribution back to a project is an important part of showing competence and, you know, certainly to larger customers that is perhaps absent elsewhere. So then there are a whole lot of people who treat a free labor office as a compliment to their business. So if you read Joel on software, he has a whole load of things about open source and complimentary products. So here, LibreOffice forms only part of the offer. It's LibreOffice plus something. And that plus can be all sorts of things. I'll look at some on the next page. But broadly, if you're charging for something that includes LibreOffice, your motivation is to get your compliment, the other bit, the price of that right down. Ideally to zero because you have a choice. You can either, you know, be paying something for LibreOffice and something for me or you can be getting it all for you and very much less for LibreOffice. So you see there is a logic to not contributing back. If you see offer LibreOffice is a compliment to your business. There are a large number of projects and uses of LibreOffice where this is the case. And people try to get that cost down. It's remarkably popular. So very, very often people will sell services around a free LibreOffice deployments. And the whole use case and the financials and the model is based entirely on having the cost saving from gratis. Which then creates more money to be spent on migration and training. I think this is a particularly self defeating way of doing it because selling consultancy this year, rather than a long term product relationship over 20 years is just selling yourself way short. Why not get that money, you know, the next year and the next year and the next year. But still, it does happen a lot. So, you know, as we talk about marketing and how that affects the ecosystem, a tag, you know, is a particularly simple way to clarify whether that might be okay, you know, so I know personal or unsorted or whatever, making it clear that actually, you know, the top guy here where nothing, you know, nothing much goes back to the project is really not cool. And this, this strategy used by billion dollar first world companies, I've been amazed to see people unwilling to pay, you know, for any fixes, because well, you know, we followed upstream as a looking like a volunteer and maybe someone will fix it for us. We have people using the development additional code and deploying that in hosting environments and charging people money for it, left and right. And of course, that's, you know, license allows that. That's okay. But it's again getting that cost of the compliment your service right down to zero. And of course we see individuals, and particularly more so in the open office times, selling support services to people. And we literally from to support service which was just filing bugs in the in the open office bugzilla, and then perhaps hassling a son engineer to do it or trying to hold up releases until those bugs are fixed with effectively no competence, no no engineering competence behind that and no contribution to Libra underneath that, but still quite a successful model and we'll look at some of these. I think that's obviously a lot cheaper. And so, yeah, I mean, so of course in terms of then prime trying to pretend you have a roadmap or that you're actually going somewhere. You need them to, you know, do a fair bit of work to try and work out what other people are going to do for you for free in advance and then tell people, that's what they're going to get and you know you can predict these things. I think companies have trouble predicting what they're going to do anyway so it's it's not like if there's a few errors in your guess is that it will go really wrong and say the hope someone else fixes your bugs product here.  So the problem, you know, here I am I'm using open Suza I'm not not paying for enterprise supported Linux desktop and that kind of sucks, you know, like I mean it's, it's, it's not optimal. And, you know, some amount of the argument the gratis Libra office is really vital is actually a demand for free compliments, and ultimately demands not have to contribute or not not be encouraged to contribute and continue with that model as an example of this. So, you know, as in products comes with available at no extra charge the profits online or collaborate online. And you can look at that in various different ways it's good that they're distributing our software, but it's also a great shame that they're not, you know, for contributing anything back in whatever way that that's, you know, would be best. Not only only only people doing this, but they have a pretty website. So there you go. There's another model which is even more. Well, perhaps, perhaps more pathological I don't know. So, when it comes to competitive tendering. There is a very easy way to reduce the price and ensure that you win. It's essentially either leverage the community used to be one way that I think advocates would call this, but basically it's been very low and hope someone else fixes the issues for you. And so you know you put a very small amount into a thing and of course your bid is always going to be cheaper than people who actually do the job. And you know offer a for a real real service. And so in this case you don't actually get more money for yourself, like it's not all going to the individual. It's just disappearing from the whole ecosystem, you know, like we lose lose that other half the true cost of fixing and providing the service. And yeah, so I mean this, you know, I'd like to think that at least someone is getting rich off our work in the other in the other environment but in this one with you know like no one wins. And a really price prominent examples around the world this going on, particularly in France. But also if you consider the, the extreme version of this where effectively you charge nothing at all, which is ultimately where this goes to in the limit. That also demonetize it as what was potentially an opportunity to contribute significantly to the graphics. Here's another model. This is the differentiated low contribution model. So you take the software. And then you differentiate you post it somewhere else on an unclear base you make it difficult for code changes to go back. You ask for help and mentoring and you ask for fixes for your problems. Sometimes even raise funds from governments to create a local office that is the one for your, your, you know local area. And you don't engage in any code because I suppose you have to eventually in an unusable form. And you don't engage the community or contribute anything, which is essentially creating a semi proprietary local version now this is very, there are huge advantages to this it's then very easy to differentiate you have a clear message we are the local version we are the red flag, you know we are the Chinese government version, you know we are the official something or other and it works better and Chinese and all this sort of thing. And we see this today in Taiwan with OSS II, but it seems it's a popular model, it provides instant differentiation. And, well, there you are, some people do that. TDF, of course, is an economic entity here, I guess it's generalized reciprocity but we expect people to donate or give to give in return for this this office suite that we've given them the promise is something like this you know, we TDF created and gave you an office suite so join us and contribute to making it better. Of course there's a couple of open questions there in the footnotes. You know, so the degree to which TDF creates the value that it shifts is open to question. And, you know, the perception that donating, then goes to create new feature function is also currently open to question, but at least TDF is an economic entity in its own ecosystem with a effectively free or donation funded product. And that's great because I mean TDF does loads of hard to fund otherwise work. Let's call it that. You know, there are wonderful stuff down every day with donations from our generous donors, which are really good and we would struggle to do otherwise but even so, it's a small percentage of the development work that comes through that route. Other economic models book authoring. Perhaps there's a smaller market interestingly prints book sales are actually up, which is weird. And our documentation team, I guess fills the much of this gap, ODF authors raises money and uses that revenue to help fund documentation and various other cool things. Interestingly, the pressures that you want there are you know if you're selling physical books you want fewer major releases of Libra office so you have longer print runs serving more people. And face change, because that requires remaking screenshots, and you know a slower release schedule is generally appreciated to try and keep it because the more cool things we do the more we devalue the value of their asset which is the book which is which is interesting. There's lots of other models out there I mean like selling conference tickets raised significant money for GNOME obviously in a global pandemic it doesn't. But I think the middle project, you know makes loads of money through training large groups of teachers and conferences. You can sell news the sorts of other sort of economic ways that you can engage in the ecosystem. So brands and trademarks I talk a lot about brands. I'm sorry, but this is partly why. So this recently for whatever reason the document foundation lapse the trademark for Libra office vanilla in the in the app store so we couldn't use that anymore. So we pulled it and we put, we just left collaborative office in there so this is the Apple app store. And this is daily numbers and you'll see these graphs have slightly different scales on here. About 150 or so seats a week that we normally sell. And in the week that it was down in a collaborative office, unfortunately a slightly different price. So maybe the number you know so this 18 to 150 is probably a bit larger. So, you know, looking back I should have we should have done a head to head comparison there but for about this week, we saw those 10x win of having the more widely laying Libra office brand. But if you call it something different people want is more brands are really important and I guess this is not news we know this problem well. Shoot someone question or do I mean we spent a lot of time and effort building the open office brand only to see used against us and and its users arguably. Trademark is really the traditional point of prioritization in floss projects and you can see now the open office brand is as you know half or two fifths of the Libra office one in terms of the Google trend. But you know this is this is a this is a big problem. And you know trademark some brands are you know peg that explains value so hey let's use the Libra office brand that's everybody use it it's all, you know it's 10 times more effective than anything else. This point you get extreme commoditization that none of these things are differentiated no one knows which one they should buy. And so in consequence, they buy the cheap one. So here we see a screenshot of the windows app store and we've got Libra office vanilla, the office powered by CIB and Libra office unofficial all at different prices all apparently Libra office. And this is another problem so so you know if differentiating products in the marketplace if if we have competing products and I would argue that this is a good thing. Is is it's not obvious how this can be done with commodity branding or everyone using the same brand. So, so let's look at some of the economics I talked about the being no money fairy. So we need somehow to get money. I talked about this I guess in my keynote, you know you get an angel investor you do some investment, and hopefully you build a cycle that grows strongly and allows us to invest in more development, create more free software and happy customers. If we don't, we get less development, and it all fails leads here being really the flow, the lifeblood of business, you know, how many people. Can you reach to turn into new customers. Of course you can kill yourself in other ways by having poor marketing poor sales strategy whatever but unless you get those those leads, you're really stuffed and at the moment, we have the Libra office project creating a powerful product brand and marketing it as gratis in large part. And it is, you know, it can't charge money for it in for various reasons, but creating this this very powerful product brands makes it very hard for the rest of the ecosystem to invest simply because where it competes with that. It's just very, very, very hard 10 times more difficult than you might think. And so this is true for desktop. For online of course, we previously had this firewall, where we kind of have a source project you could collaborate around the Libra office, and then you know competition and stress and agro in the marketplace. You know, it's the permeable membrane for investment and code. The new board of course change this, you know, once, once a number of conflicting things you know the investment obviously is wanted. It should of course be called Libra office it should come from TDF it should be entirely gratis. We don't want any moral persuasion to pretend, persuade people to buy. We should tell them they should donate to TDF and we want to, you know, if we can get leads we want to redirect them to diversify contribution. But again, we want corporate investment so so the connection between investment and return. If, of course, many of these desires conflict, lots of people don't share all of them, but all of these desires are well represented in the community and the board. So of course we, you know, we're a whole load of cool kids, but we disagree sometimes, and that's, I guess, normal. But one of the thoughts on that is that if you're discussing in the community and prominent voices are saying, you know, it's a great idea to nationalize the oil industry. We should do that. Let's nationalize it next week. This tends to have an impact on investment. People sell their shares in oil companies, they collapse in value. People who put their money in are worried as to whether they'll get their money back if this happens. They'll wonder what's what's next. Perhaps we should be selling other stocks in the country that's nationalizing. Of course, there's no problem with national oil industries. I have a beef against them. Well, maybe maybe there are some problems with central planning and lack of focus and, you know, nine to five jobs and so on. But either way, in theory, there's no problem with nationalized industries, but it's the transition there and it's the uncertainty. Of course, if you want to nationalize your oil industry, it's great to create that uncertainty first, because it's then much cheaper. You can destroy, you know, destroy the value of it and then you can buy it on the cheap, which is often how it goes if indeed anything's bought at all. And of course, there are problems here because we want to have an inclusive community. We want to discuss everything. But I think if you're in a position of authority and responsibility, it's helpful to approach these things with great sensitivity, given that your words have an impact that is perhaps long lasting and damaging and beyond, you know, beyond what you might imagine. We're talking large numbers of people's jobs and, you know, large economic flows. So it pays to be prudent. We came up with a marketing plan, perhaps to try and solve this with this community tags and so on and so on and lots of hard work there from Italo and the team. Significant resistance to the concept from the community from the wider free software world than elsewhere. And I talked about this before I think there's probably no point in rehashing this. I think, you know, the end of the day, even if we can solve this in TDF, which perhaps we should anyway, the board is then going to be, you know, deciding whom to send those leads to. Again, the leads of the lifeblood of a business are selling a product. And then, you know, we'll have all all of these potentially weak brands trying to differentiate, you know, if everybody is calling it Libra office if it's Libra office enterprise everywhere. It's not as profound a brand problem as the Libra office brand is used, you know, either as a 10x weapon for those who have contributed little against those who have, or just as a massive diluting factor if everyone uses it, such that it's then very hard to differentiate indeed, which ends up having a driving the price down to zero. Effectively it's like an app, you know, an app store, where there's lots of apparently identical products at different prices.  Of course, there's lots of other other solutions to talk to. So just promote Libra office from TDF. This is what I love to hear. This is full of brilliant ideas for corporate investment in growing the Libra office brand I hear them regularly, all sorts of things that we, we can do as a company to grow Libra office as a brand. The problem is that there are very few convincing ideas on coupling any of that investment and work to any kind of return for the people putting investment in. The things that we're missing and the kryptonite that makes it all work. Here is one of the ideas that I've heard the love strategy. Good things will come just wait.  That doesn't actually happen. You know, we're really grateful when that does happen. And you know, it is clearly the case that community members have sold things and encouraged people to buy stuff and that's fantastic. And it's good to put that money back into the project. But broadly, our community is a tiny percentage of users that see the software.  And it's easy to forget that you are well if there are 200 million people and there's a thousand people in our community. You know, you are the point 00001% of all half percent of the world. And that's cool. But it does seem like putting the burden of promoting, you know the economic successively profits on your shoulders might be a bit of a misplaced idea. Like wouldn't it be better to just to tell more of those 99.999% that they might want to actually contribute effectively and here is a great and easy way to do it works. The solution I've heard recently is nationalization by TDF. So you turn TDF into a commercial development company, hire a large permanent staff of developers sell consultancy services support products. Wouldn't it be exciting as us as a community to go on the journey of managing, you know, a team of 40 engineers to do do something. Well, perhaps. There are a few problems there in addition to the charitable purpose of TDF, which is, yeah, well anyway. So community management ultimately comes down to some kind of board involvement voting elections conflict. We struggle at the moment as a board even to tend to the things that have already been agreed by the community suggestion ESC ranking board voting process. And central planning with a single price point, a single team is not necessarily as efficient as you might hope Missila has, has this problem. It makes it difficult to serve the whole world in different different places. Of course there's a bootstrapping problem currently the developers are in companies, primarily and not in TDF and TF has no not got the budget to pay them so we would potentially lose a lot of skills on the way. We permanently end any external investment. So we would, we would put all of our eggs in a single basket marked TDF. It's possible. I just don't know how wise that would be as an approach. I think if you look at Missila and Missila's monolithic approach to building its product and competing in the marketplace. I think you see the end result of exactly this model. Well, loosely coupled third party players why loosely coupled. Well, you know this could fill a niche like the PC app store. Lots of people looked at TDC for example and said whoa it's very loosely coupled I really worried about that we should own and control it. And that is when you only control it. A lot of those requirements around your mission and your nonprofit status get pushed across that ownership. A thing and ultimately selling apps in app stores and reinvesting the proceeds becomes, in my view, significantly more complicated. And there are problems there too because if we put gratis apps in app stores. We can potentially stop people getting updates from TDF. And our donation flow is highly coupled to the update, or at least has been. And then of course there are issues that if you create a privileged third party which owns this product brand Libre Office, does that chew up the whole ecosystem, you know, in a similar way. I hope none of these ideas are especially new I'll try and persuade you they're not in 2012 I gave a talk interaction anti patterns, talking essentially about the problems here. And here's what I said the economics the system a critical if we can't get the flow of code and finance right we fail. This is I guess shortly after losing some and the Oracle and IBM and freed riders need to join the community and enjoy the ride. So in 2013, the governance and economics he gives us you can see the slide here. Unfortunately, the needle in a gale are no longer with us and investing in the ecosystem and magenta is no longer with us either. Yeah, which which just shows you the consequences of not getting the economics right of your ecosystem or not as good as they could be 2014 the burn keynote the money fairy appeared I spent ages during that thing. And so this is not a new idea it's just an idea that I repeatedly talk about a conferences and results in remarkably little progress although there has been some progress let me show you that. So we never the Libre Office in business page which is great. And weirdly, if you give a very small donation to TDF to become an advisory board member of your 500 pounds you can appear or 500 euros you can appear on this page. Which is quite a strange incentive but either way, it's a positive thing to have Libre Office in business page and encourage people to go there and if you look at the stats from attorney for this year. This is actually a pretty cool so like this 61,000 hits on that page out of the 12 million that we got this is unique page views. The professional support page is got 17,000 and encouraging there's a good exit rate from that page like if you're looking at the people who go on to pick any kind of professional support or find out about it. Like most of the people hit that page, go somewhere useful. Yeah, of course, very few of the people who hit the Libre Office in business page go somewhere useful. But these are positive numbers. We had something like 0.15% in 2019.23% and a big jump to 0.65% of people. The go to our website actually find one of these pages like the certified developers page the professional support page of course then it's not clear the large number of them go on. But this is something to celebrate. Hopefully, hopefully we'll be pleased and here's what 0.65% looks like so this is the ratio of volunteers to companies in terms of commits in the project at the moment. And this is what it looks like. So it's pretty good in terms of you know growing share of the pie chart, arguably the blue share should more clearly match this chart, but but we're at least going somewhere, which is good. And the pace of going somewhere is accelerating it's just rather a small, small thing. And indeed on the website we've encouraged people to think less of a gratis free stuff. And now we're thinking that perhaps you ought to switch from open office which is, well, you know, a positive. One of the things I've been trying to persuade people is that we need a big grateful community here is an IRC discussion recently. And this is not just a problem for the marketing team we need to be thinking about this everywhere and telling people that things are good and I don't want to pick on these guys because they're both awesome. I'm sorry. I don't want to rename them to helpful and hero. But you know, don't, don't wait for the board. Don't, don't wait. Tell people tell people if something has gone well if someone's contributed something. Even if it's a company like alphanis who did an awesome job with the crash testing system, we might want to actually tell someone we want to celebrate it have a party, and maybe if we encourage them enough. Do more, or maybe someone else will do more. It's not really qualitatively different from a volunteer. I think we need to do more of that. My conclusions. Economics is important. Ultimately, I would argue we lost Oracle and IBM because there was no strong economic driver to keep them in the project it didn't make money. The Red Hat, of course, has reduced its investment. Suzeress, well, spun stuff out, the Gael and Eda I could go on. There's a great long list of them. People tend not to divest, particularly in small companies, if there is a strong economic driver. If we can get that, we will grow our community of contributors, and we will be more diverse, and we'll have fun. There's no area of contributors economic interest, just because someone is saying it should all be free and it's gratis it doesn't mean that they're a good guy. It could mean, maybe they're a good guy, but it could mean that they have an economic incentive to have a free complement to their service product, whatever, and they don't want people to know that perhaps they ought to be contributing financially to the core. Just be aware of that. So building a commercial product brand inside a nonprofit that can't exploit that money is, I think, an unfortunate marketing choice. I think we need to think more about how far down that product, product route we want to go, because we can't sell a product. We can only stop other people buying other products with that, because there's a value in telling people about a software freedom and getting more people to use it. I think we need to be careful. I think we need to build virtuous cycles. Those who contribute should be appreciated and promoted whoever they are. Those who strip line should not be. And it should be fun for companies to contribute to the project, as it should be for individuals. So that's my talk. I think I have one second left. If you have any questions, I'd love to take some. And hopefully someone saw the talk. Is there anyone listening still? Perhaps there's some. Yes. This is a really interesting conversation. And I was one of those people who kind of thought of, well, maybe it should be part of, you know, TDF as a whole and the Libre Office vanilla thing. But I think you kind of shown, you kind of threw to my face that there's a really good reason why there's a brand split and why, and why it makes sense to encourage multiple entities to invest and commercialize and then contribute back. And it reminded me very much of in the, in the years ago when the Red Hat Fedora brand split occurred for Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Fedora. And I wonder if maybe this is the lesson that we need to actually learn as a community. And I wonder, like, what, what your thoughts are on the idea of maybe codifying for TDF and Libre Office. Effectively a total brand split for commercialization purposes. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's helpful. So, you know, if, you know, I don't have a magic wand, I don't know what works. I can't predict the future any better than anyone else or they, you know, I have a little bit of experience of trying to sell something and paying people to do open source software. But it seems to me that across the free software world we have a problem encouraging people to pay for things. It's a very rampant problem. And I would argue that having a clear brand thing like the Libre Office personal or whatever it is that applies moral suasion not just in our project but in all projects I mean like Ubuntu personal versus Ubuntu Enterprise now this is weird because there's a single corporate entity that owns that brand. The Libre Office Enterprise is a good idea because it destroys differentiation by multiple players and ecosystem but I think the Libre Office personal is a good idea.   But, but I think a tag is a good idea to encourage people that actually contribution is important. And I think that's something that particularly in Libre Office with such a large user base and such a, you know, I'm a cool community. It's a large community, but it's a tiny fraction of that. We could really do do more to encourage. I think it's a pattern that lots of projects would win from. Thank you for your point in question. It's getting boring. 15% of my talk since 2014 have the same topic. I know, I know. Yes, Andreas makes a good point. I mean, I don't know how often you can say something and be ignored, but I'm going for a record in this. I don't think other people have different views and you know it's very difficult to affect any meaningful change in our project for lots of reasons. But hopefully we have an opportunity now on a bit of a wake up call to try and think these things through in a way that, you know, allows us to change. That would be my take. Let's see. Other questions, thoughts, feedback. How am I doing for time? I guess I'm probably out of it. So one last question, and this one might hit a little close to home. What do you think of the SUSE or open SUSE of brand split for this same kind of differentiation kind of purpose as you were talking about throughout your presentation. Yeah, absolutely. So I think it's a really good. So, so I think the SUSE cases is relatively different because LibreOffice really tries to be a vendor neutral nonprofit. And I think building a product brand that it owns for paid for product would be deeply unhelpful. But in the SUSE case, I think it's really, really cool. And of course open SUSE then allows people to be involved and SUSE was really open and has a cool community that does what it says on the tin is open. But then of course it pushes the SUSE brand too.  So I think, you know, there are nuances there, but I think it's good to have that brand separation. And I expect to see it increasingly in things. I mean, so we see next cloud and next cloud enterprise now. And I guess we've had a similar separation. I think, you know, the, the kind of discussion we had at LibreOffice was not one about removing features. It was not about proprietary anything, you know, it was not about license change or any such thing. It was nearly about tagging the software to say it's not suitable for use in, well, many of those places where people have a complimentary, you know, service, they shouldn't be selling LibreOffice, unless they're actually contributing back, you know, and I think putting that message, embedding it in a product name is very, very, very helpful. A thing to do in my view. My litch may vary. So Michael, on time, Thurston's going to be up next and his talk starts in about nine minutes. Oh, nine minutes. We got some time for questions. If you want to introduce them, you're more welcome to do that. So Torstem is awesome. I, you know, like Torstem is just great. You listened to his talk and I gave a list of people that actually contribute back to the ecosystem and see ideas as well as that. I don't know what he's talking about. He's probably talking about why Calabra sucks, but either way you should listen to that too. There's probably something useful to find out there. But yeah, sure, happy to ramble until Torstem gets on. Any other questions or thoughts? I mean, I know it's an emotive topic. If you can hear me, one comment. So broadly behind the statements here and, you know, that I'm kind of in the same boat down and we all struggle to make a living out of open source. So I'm perfectly behind that, that part. What I find slightly unhelpful is kind of slamming other people for especially TTF in this case, for not acknowledging where the cope comes from, we're all making that mistake. I mean, we all always tend to market our own things that we did.  And I really liked that you said, well actually with the running Linux on the servers and on our workstations and we're not paying anyone for that as well. And I think it's probably fair to say that that same story is there with acknowledging the past. And that's my statement from the chat that so much value was created by people before us. That slamming TTF for, and there was a, I mean, there was a decision that we all made back in the day and then 2011 to market a product because that's what open office most back in the day so we're marketed against open office. And then after that realize that there was no money ferry as you 2013 so so it actually evolved and I think that's the this does not looking back and not not really necessarily TTF is not this this amorphous entity I mean we're all a part of that and you're kind of at least partially involved with that decision making and instead looking forward and after 10 years saying okay. Damn it, I mean, all of open source land has the same problem and you got a monetize and in a positive way look forward, instead of looking back and blaming somebody else. But I think I think there are many suggestions that that come across that are the form let's get further this way let's, you know, I don't know which which it's particularly annoying, but hey I'll tweak my slides before publishing them if you have if you have a good tweak.  It was clearly a collective mistake in hindsight that marketed as free office speak back in the day. Yeah, sure. Yeah. So, but, but you say it's clear but but I don't know that. Yeah, it's a good summary. So I spoke it's actually local is going to be doing the closing. Oh, later is doing. Yes, I thought that was the case. Maybe we have to give my I mean Mike you're here do you I mean, you know, it's an easy message right free office suite is an easy one to get across right. We have been removing free I moved it from some things on Twitter we don't talk about it so much I mean the job of the document foundation is to promote this development of an office suite available for everybody. But I do agree that always talking about free free free kind of for many people stops the conversation or people don't even think about where does it come from a lot of people just assume it it does come out of thin air by magic or a few volunteers so we have been toning down the mentions of free. And we've been. Yeah, Michael showed the business in the office in business sites as well which only gets a tiny number of visits but we're looking at. And all we can do we're looking at the download page as well and segmenting users like we don't want to change what we offer, of course, if we want to offer this this office suite but really making sure that business users know at least know that there's there are things out there that they really should be installing and using if they're deploying on 10,000 computers and feeding something back as well so it's not finding that balance that we've talked about before between what we can do is to yet but also supporting the ecosystem I agree because without the ecosystem we wouldn't have half of the features we get so yeah. So, I've got. So, this seems to remind me a lot of, you know, I think about the other ecosystems that I'm involved in. And one of them that comes to mind is that, you know, the CNCF and Linux foundation with their model like, yeah, you can download it for free in the source code and binaries or whatever. But they kind of make the first pass landing page, take you to what they call certified platforms which you can pay for get the port for, and things like that. I've looked at the LibreOffice website recently and I don't really see an equivalent to that. Does anyone discuss the idea of doing something like that to like, maybe make it so that people can pass through easily to the LibreOffice or the LibreOffice or LibreOffice or LibreOffice by CIB or whatever. So it has been discussed, and there's a marketing plan that includes some of that as, you know, with an unclear, relatively unclear mechanism there for how that would work. But what was the model project that you were, what was the project that you suggested? You know, Kubernetes and the cloud native Linux foundation stuff, like they do this a lot where they people that sponsor active members, corporate wise that provide solutions based on the open source projects. When you go through to their site and go figure out like how to get Kubernetes, quote unquote, they kind of, they promote at the top level, the certified Kubernetes distribution. So I guess they have a source project with binary distributions from lots of different players, right? They also do the binary distribution themselves, but it is marked, it doesn't have the quote unquote certified Kubernetes kind of branding around it. No, it's interesting. So they effectively promote their own product as less authentic than the other ones elsewhere, right? Yeah, that's a very good way to describe it. Yeah, that's pretty good. Okay. Yeah, I've not not seen that approach, but certainly the problem that we have at the moment is the TDF builds are seen as the ultimate in authenticity and the genuine source of all sorts of goodness which is created by other people, which is a little bit. But I mean, if you correct that much of value. Well, as you said, there's no money fairy. There isn't. I hope we can agree on that if nothing else. Good. So any other questions or thoughts or well, and when is later on then when is his


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I'm on But yeah, only if you want to have me you don't have to Why does that lady look like? That but the player model still look like they're made out of paper bags and cardboard. I mean this was the complaint from test drum Everyone's hoping that next year and like the first update of next year the spring update will be a Graphical rework of our character, which I would love to look like this because this is cool. This is not cool not cool Cool not cool. Cool. There's like a split between the battleboard half is not cool and the other is cool I have a discord server. I sure do exclamation point discord or linked in the description below Or rose can probably find you a nice we link for you possibly um, I Mean we are cool, but character models are not cool unlike the the enemies who are really cool character models When you examine the purple dragon statues it tells you about if they called him king right all the indomitable interesting Even fasting But yes, I do have a discord server my style is a wolf knight Fair enough. My style is a pilgrim boy Because that is still what everybody calls me even though it is not quite what it was meant to be But hey, it's fine. We we live with it. We live with it That didn't do too much kind of sad, but it was just the day night This is gonna do a decent amount in store mode Yeah Yeah, don't just type slash agree without reading the rules you can but um, then you're agreeing to rules that You don't know about and That would not be a good idea. It's kind of like the terms and conditions You you should read them, but everybody doesn't and if you don't read the rules, it's fine, but Basically, it just states that you need to follow the rules Otherwise you could be removed from the server and the rules can change at any time with or without Knowledge of without your knowledge. So yeah, generally it doesn't and I haven't changed I think I've changed like one rule since this service been up So don't worry about that and usually I would announce it if it's a big change But yeah, that's just basically I gotta verify your account before you join any server. So a couple things for now. Yeah, that's fine That link should work forever. So yeah, or you can just go to any of my videos And it should be in the description of all of them. Hopefully if not I'm bad I'm a black cultist leader. No, I'm not. I am a a Witch slash wizard. That's what I am Hargroves notes. Hello blast startling noise caused me to drop my previous notebook. It's a good thing I have spares. I'll retrieve the old one on my way out. What has happened here These gems in the walls. They seem to be dragon spire knowledge crystals, but they're a misbehaving These projections, they're not ghosts. Their memories from the crystals Seemingly stuck in a constant loop troops Dragon spire sufferers from Reutels plague its streets filled with mobs of the unwashed our way of life is ending These knowledge crystals bear further inspection I can't do that and write notes at the same time. See you later notebook Okay, um, also, can you please not run too far ahead because I do want to get all of the dialogue just saying Just saying You're a dark magician that is really deadly. Yeah, that's probably a better way to do it. Is there a dialogue? Did I miss the dialogue that would be said I miss the dialogue. I know I had dialogue Please don't run ahead. I really want to get the dialogue because it is for my walkthrough and If if if this becomes an issue, I will not be streaming this and it will just be completely recorded So please don't run ahead and get the dialogue because I really wanted I really want the dialogue Even though I've listened to it before I like the dialogue and I need it Why does the lawkeeper look like William Defoe? I mean we said this we said this on the First live stream and yeah, it's true. I Don't know. I blame Kings are really they just took some inspiration That's how it works. They just took some inspiration Play The lawkeeper looks like Cyrus Drake. That is true. He does Does definitely look like Cyrus Drake. 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I read it on Wikipedia weird Lulu only one blade and a weakness so it won't do too much, but hey, we got to do it anyway They should update all models and dragons fire and dragons fire will become very popular with the player base I would say so I think the next priority is Crocodopia and just working through I think they need to go up to Celestia at least Zafari is okay in my opinion, but Celestia some of it is a bit Definitely better than Mooshu Mooshu really needs to be updated because it is just disgusting. I absolutely hate Mooshu Like it just is gross. It is gross and I cannot wait to see what they do with Mali bone Because Mali bone and pirate when I was well, I've been recording the pirate walkthroughs to the last like we while It's just so nice to go into like a really nice Mali bone Like it is so nice and I really want them to Really really want them to Update Mali bone and was to be like pirate one Have I heard the new dragons fire battle theme? I have not should we go and check that out after this dungeon? I think we should we'll take a wee break and go and do my garden and go and check out the new Dragons fire battle theme that sounds fun. That sounds like a fun. We Enter mission for a bit Mooshu is different in pirate. Yeah, it looks so much better so much better I'm already an angler file, so if they update Mali bone I'll be head over heels with love with it. Yeah, I mean, it's my second favorite world after Imperia now Mooshu needs to be better Mooshu definitely needs to be better Mooshu is gross. Absolutely gross check my plants. I will we'll take an intermission and go and check our plants. I Hope they haven't died since last time I checked They shouldn't So, yeah, Gg that should have killed hopefully most likely right? Yep. Yep. There we go. I Know I love this guy. I knowledge you knowledge crystal. Oh, I love it. Okay. 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civil society movements in Pakistan. So this session comprised of the discussion on the civil society movements in Pakistan. Because the contemporary history of civil society movements in Pakistan, it can be traced back to events unfolding in 1857 with defeat of natives in war of independence against the British colonial rule. The changes took place in the society of India. And then the struggle against the rulers, the colonial rulers, Muslims initiated, Muslim leadership initiated regarding the unity of Muslims and specifically regarding the awareness about education. And that was the beginning of civil society in context of this region of subcontinent. And we can claim that the Muslim leadership of Saeed Ahmad Khan, they initiated the role of civil society for the betterment and for the awareness of the Muslims. Then Pakistan came into being. And then in Pakistan, the movements regarding education, regarding language, regarding human rights, regarding minority rights, regarding representation. There were a lot of issues that we saw in civil society in Pakistan. And there were a lot of segments that we saw from the beginning of Pakistan and created a sense of awareness in people about how they can influence the government or how they can mobilize their people so that their basic rights are not affected. So Pakistan's civil society has played a key role in four areas specifically. Number one, the social reformation, freedom and social justice, socio-economic development and provision of welfare and social safety net. Now if we look at this, the first thing we want to talk about is social reforms. There were a lot of experiments in every country that did not become free. There were a lot of different types of governments. It was necessary for people to tell people that what kind of social reforms are necessary. These social reforms were about education, these social reforms were about human rights. Then in a country that did not become free, socio-economic development projects were also required. The civil society became active and especially tried a lot for these four areas. And then the civil society made a lot of such plans. What was the meaning of that? That was a special aspect that was associated with social, political and economic forces. They were somehow able to create such an environment in Pakistan where people were able to use their basic rights to work, to take advantage of their own self-respect and awareness of people and do a lot of such basic work, which is related to the ethnic, religious, gender and sectarian interests that were created as a result of that. People were able to tell people that these reforms are actually when you live in a system, you live in a society, you live in a system of government, so you should be so aware of the government and other people that by removing these differences, how can we live a peaceful and peaceful life? For people, the civil society in Pakistan, the sector in which they worked a lot, they also had education, health, human and social development, rural and urban infrastructure development, poverty elevation. Because if we look at it, there are many areas in Pakistan where there is a lot of poverty. Our civil society has made a lot of efforts to get rid of that poverty. There are projects like South Punjab, Blochistan and Sindh, where education and skilled-based programs are initiated in many areas. If we want to divide the civil society movements in Pakistan, how can we categorize them? We know that there are a lot of student movements, there are some interest-based movements as well, which had a special role in groups, then there are some religious-based movements, there are some human rights movements. There are some efforts of the civil society, in which they also worked for the marginalized communities and for their rights. There are also some such initiatives, which were led to solve the problems of people's poverty. Then there are some other initiatives, whose purpose or purpose or purpose was to settle the purpose of people's development and to achieve it. So, the civil society in Pakistan is always making progress, and for the people, for the society, for the society and for the state, they have always done their best to get rid of the poverty. They have done a lot of work, they have been criticized for that, but we cannot deny any of their roles.