re's three year measurement and i don't have that language right in front of me i apologize and even if you had it we still wouldn't be able to answer that question we actually sat down there were a team of staff from both the county and the city and we there's enough confusion that i think we'll we'll we'll solve that problem when we are faced with it it's just not very clear i appreciate it i know we have a more in-depth conversation on measure m later in today's agenda perhaps we can try to get a little bit of that information for that but either way i and i assume that that does not actually play into this reduction for staff it's as clear as mud that's what i was saying on this one right and i i will get more information before the item a little bit later but even with that being said that there is not clarity any you're exactly right in terms of what's going to govern is how the measure itself is written and it's helpful to have guidance documents it's helpful to have the interpretation of the drafters but at the end of the day it's going to be the way the measure is written great thank you is there not also reference to extraordinary circumstances there is reference to extraordinary circumstances and that's something also that i can bring back a little later that there is language in terms of the burden the threshold to get there can raise some concerns as well thank you yes miss combs thank you i i'd like to just provide a comment more than a question and thank you for for allowing that i don't know if we've collected any data or how we would have collected data on this but it seems as if investment in parks and recreation services provide sort of like upstream investment and that it causes us to not need to make greater investments at other times so i am really concerned as we reduce parks and recreation services or fund or maintenance that we are looking at paying more in the long run that we don't in fact realize cost savings it's not clear to me how we measure that if you have ideas on how to measure that i would love to see them in particular i'm keenly aware of finding that park maintenance having a person providing park maintenance also provides an element of safety in the park and that we don't need to have as many calls for service from somewhere else because we have a maintenance person who knows folks who gets to know the people who are in the park who is providing a variety of services to the public beyond the fact that they are providing direct maintenance so i don't know how we take that into account as we look at this budget i know that we have to take an action immediately now but i i'm aware that we've just recently got within the last few years six park maintenance workers and now it looks as if we're reducing them again maybe they weren't positions that we filled knowing something might come but it's a real shame to not have folks providing tree maintenance providing grass cutting on a regular schedule that is timely and just providing eyes on a park so that everyone in the park feels comfortable thank you any questions thank you miss parts next department's transportation public works 21.3 million dollar budget about an eighth of your general fund budget i propose reductions of 1.3 million dollars and i will say transportation public works has been leaning forward on this and planning this for about 18 months they cut a number of positions you can see 11 total five of those that are filled and six of them that are vacant and again this is in line of moving that that parks maintenance function under transportation and public works some of the main service impacts by these reductions of the 11 personnel that you're going to see is is response to traffic increase signal timing stop sign evaluation those type of things are going to be are going to be impaired slowed down customer service inquiries are going to be are going to be slower and there will be an elimination of field services support for special events so to kind of walk through some of the filled positions there's a deputy director that will be retiring and in the consolidation will occur with parks and the deputy director that is in parks will come over and fill that position under tpw skilled maintenance workers retirement that'll eliminate hours for special events and for the banner program and there's also three civil engineer texts that are filled right now one's a retirement the others will be absorbed into vacancies and that will drop survey crews down from three teams down to two teams and then the rest of the position those remaining six are vacancies there's a senior admin assistant this has already been implemented and as the wrecking parks director talked about tpw's already gone to automated phone service they're also realizing slower customer response times city surveyor this vacant will be reduced there's also a senior maintenance worker this vacancy that will be eliminated and this will this will reduce their ability to address roadside and roadway conditions there's also a vacant street crew supervisor that will be eliminated the existing asphalt crew that's under that supervisor will consolidate with another crew so there'll be a larger span of control there there's also a vacant skilled maintenance worker that will be reduced and this is going to result in more triaging of building maintenance issues and then civil engineer tech that is vacant that will also be reduced this child of ours thank you mayor jason i think your department probably impacts every square inch of the city and somewhere another what do you see here as some of the worst-case scenarios with your with your reductions yeah i'm jason director of transportation and public works we will have an impact around the around the the organization the significant changes we'll be making in traffic engineering will ultimately result in probably an increased workload in the attorney's office as well as a passing of inquiries between police and traffic as we try to figure out how to do it realistically where we've already suspended our speed hunt program our traffic calming program the position has been vacant for about six months and in anticipation of this type of work so we've already started to take actions to try to reassign and readdress work in our facilities section and we provided information this summer to the council about the state and condition of our facilities this will reduce the number of employees from eight to seven to maintain the 114 structures that we have here and it's just a function of trying to do our part within the operation in order to make the positive impact we need to for the city's citywide budget when it boils down to it we spent the last almost 18 months as as mr mcbride said looking at a strategic methodology for addressing budget cuts in this organization we evaluated what our core services were we spent a lot of time trying to determine in each of the divisions and sections what they were responsible for as a base premise of their job and then we tried to identify those those services that may have been on the ancillary as we looked at it some of those things that we've identified as ancillary services we've been informed are now core services for us such as we've had an increase in debris removal costs we provided a higher level of support to our homeless services team that's taking away from time and effort that we're putting on the street to do street and road repairs further reductions in the staff that you've seen here that we're proposing with two employees that will reduce that will further reduce our ability to respond to complaints and requests to do improvements in the roadway and sidewalks that that we we do our best to mitigate major issues from the administrative support standpoint as mr mcbride said we have implemented already a an automated phone system on that position again it's been vacant for about six months so we've already taken action to try to address that that has been beneficial to some extent however there was a customer service component that we enjoyed in this town when you make a phone call a live body picks up the phone unfortunately as good of a customer service team as i have we've had to move to this automated phone tree in order to be able to deal with the volume of calls coming in as we're looking at our survey section we did find that we have had a reduction in the type of work going on and it's become incredibly seasonal and so with three current survey crews we felt it seemed reasonable for us to reduce one crew one full crew we were able to absorb the two employees that are not slated for retirement into the engineering team as the engineering team is a fully recovered team it has no impact on the general fund and therefore we are carrying vacancies there that allow us to move some individuals from one division to another division and that's been very helpful in an effort to reduce the impacts of potential layoffs the deputy director position as was mentioned as we look to consolidate we've done the work within the organization to try not to to not to reduce from bottom up bottom up reductions are never the most effective tool those are the folks that everybody sees out on the street not the folks at the top those are the ones usually in the offices so it's important for us to look at this when you think about the hierarchical triangle you're actually shrinking the entire triangle and not just bringing it up from one from the bottom to the top and so when we think about having to redesign and redesign staff we're going to change how our direct reports and how our sections are within the operation to consolidate and reduce one of the deputy positions as the two teams come together so we will have impacts across the area we'll have slower response times for the public we'll have slower response times from planning and economic development and their development review processes we will be eliminating programs that we are not that that we just simply can no longer afford to support all in all we've organized this program this way so that we because we felt it was something that we could legitimately do and we felt that the benefit cost of doing this was going to be reasonable so as much as I'm you know I can complain about the about seeing the employees lost it is the right thing to do given the opportunity of the budget or the budget requirements and the team has made this decision as a whole this is not a decision I made by myself my 25 person management team helped me make all these calls so I'm happy to to discuss it further that's where we're at as far as our impacts organizationally you mentioned some impacts I believe in your cuts the impacts on the city attorney's office what other departments will be impacted by some of these cuts to yours as we're increasing our to be honest as we're increasing the amount of work that's going and planning on economic development it's very difficult for us to try to keep up with the pace that they're at we don't have the personnel or the staff to be able to do that as the police department reduces their ability to look and respond to calls more of those calls will come our way for engineering solutions we really don't have the personnel and the resources to respond to those either all of that will ultimately result in in either potentially things getting missed during the development review and and the city at taking on products that are going to be more difficult for us to maintain over time or resulting in potentially additional claims relating to incidents that occur out on the street and are out in the public right of way that we just simply can't afford to mitigate or can't provide the response to mitigate when we get the when we get the initial calls that would be my next question is what what do you anticipate or guess would be some of the major public safety impacts as far as reductions to your department I mean at this point we're going to be slowing down how we're responding to pothole complaints how are responding to trip and fall complaints on city on sidewalks tree issues have already started to slow down in and around the areas that's a that's work that that's being jointly done between rec and park and public works depending upon where the tree lands quite literally and I might my issue and then it's the review and response of of traffic incidents we get a stop sign complaint I can't necessarily afford to have staff spend the amount of time to go and do a research project to determine if that stop sign is there we may actually have to make a definitive statement quickly saying this is the intersection of two residential streets there's no reason for it to be an always stop I apologize we can't move forward so so we're going to have to make some very distinct solutions we're losing 30 percent of our ability to respond to customer complaints at this point in the traffic engineering team is it and and it's it just is what it is it just means our our ability to respond is going to be tempered so we can probably even expect to like other programs we have like my Santa Rosa to almost become pretty much ineffective it's not going to be ineffective it's just simply going to our response time is going to take longer as we start to implement city works my Santa Rosa will integrate with that and that'll help us be able to log and track products better it also help us be able to clear some of those products quicker because we'll have a more detail information up front less research less less need for detailed investigation early on so the hope is that the more technology we get the better we'll be able to respond to and investigate situations with the the lesser staff thank you mr rogers thank you director two of the things that we are eliminating in the non-personnel one specifically is support for events putting up the barriers have we looked are we concerned about the impact that that'll have on people actually throwing events as we add another barrier for them to actually get them up and running i mean part of our challenges were that that's not a reimbursable cost so it's a cost that we were taking above and beyond our current departmental issues and we we were having a difficult time providing staffing for it we have found some of the models like the grand fondos a great example where they've come forward with a general contractor that contractor provides all of the support for the event for traffic control we will still continue to to have to evaluate and approve their traffic control plan that's way we make sure that what they're implementing is a safe method of providing traffic control for that type of event that's something that we will continue to provide throughout we just simply won't be providing the staffing to go and deploy that type of traffic control for those events will it be an impact it will be an impact to some events yes and the elimination of the annual pedestrian ramp project what type of an impact will that have in madam city attorney will that potentially open us up to ADA litigation so this is a a program that we started quite a while ago when we had a significant increase we had we had many more employees realistically what we're what we're removing is the part of the program that we just simply don't have the resources to to spend it doesn't impact what we set up following our department of justice case that program is still operational it's a separate program running our capital improvement projects team this is part of our operations staff and with the limited resources we're just we're just not able to to deliver that much project so we felt it was reasonable and appropriate to to give those funds up okay that makes sense thanks other questions thank you mr nut thank you the last department's uh it's stormwater and it's just the general fund portion of the water department the elimination here was $58,000 and that was simply moving half of an admin assistance time over to the enterprise any questions on this one good job thank you the citywide statistics just to kind of wrap it all up so the total cuts that we proposed in what we just showed you were $7.1 million primarily general fund cuts there were some of those internal service fund cuts that we showed you in in hr and in it but most of most of those about 75 of those get charged out to two general fund departments personnel savings that 49.75 fd reduction that we show there saved about six million dollars non-personnel savings were $1.1 million and just kind of to take another look at the fd eliminations 10 of those were management personnel non-management personnel were 31.75 and eight of those were sworn two of them in police and then the six firefighters that we proposed in this plan so as we mentioned earlier this is kind of a short-term look this is just to give us some room while we kind of look longer term at the organization for next year's annual budget process some of the places that we will be looking is the organizational structure and we'll be looking if there's ways to restructure and get efficiencies there internal services we're taking a long look at some of those so things like fleet where we have the potential to eliminate ghost vehicles and maybe improve or reduce the amount of fleet that we use within the city we're looking at things as minuscule as how much we're paying for phones that we pay for employees or what our laptop policies are so we're trying to look at everything it's been brought up revenue solutions we are looking at those the biggest one being the quarter-cent sales taxes going in November we can go and look at fees you think about things like development related fees there's a opportunity there to look at the cost of service and see if we can bump those up I would just caution there though that it's it's difficult to reduce your budget and then increase your fees because a lot of times the way that those fees are developed especially the development related is based on the costs associated with those and then another area where I'm very interested in looking is at our reserves as we mentioned we're well under our council policy reserves of 15 percent I think we might have you know if we can find an opportunity to develop one-time sources might be worth looking at developing reserves for things like infrastructure replacement or just care of our infrastructure one of the ways that you can address your PERS issue especially when we're dealing with volatility in our annual PERS cost is to set up reserve for PERS and there might be some opportunities to do that but again you have to find that one-time money to establish those those additional reserves but that's definitely something that we're going to be looking at this time that concludes concludes my presentation and we'll take any feedback that that council has. Yeah go ahead Mr. Rogers any further questions. Yeah thank you so much Mr. McBride I know this was quite the process that everybody's undertaking to try to come up with the the cuts that we're looking at here again to reiterate sort of what you said in the beginning every department brought 10 percent across the board cuts and then had a conversation about that reduction ranging from it looks like 1.69 percent to the police department all the way up to what ultimately was a 13.92 percent reduction for human resources as the largest department to take a hit I'd be interested on the long-term finance committee to see what the additional cuts that were proposed up to that 10 percent was before it was reduced down for each department again just to channel my inner city manager this is the easy part these are the vacant positions that we're eliminating and if measure O doesn't pass in November we'll be looking at additional cuts twice this but with filled positions instead that's the part that is really going to be a bigger challenge I think take a little bit more work I did have one additional question if measure O were to pass that's nine million dollars that we're expecting this cut that we're looking at right here is a little over seven million that is an additional 16 million we're looking at I think it was about a 15 million dollar budget shortfall that additional one million in excess that we would have based on those two factors to plug that hole do we have we had any type of a conversation yet about how that'll be allocated and in particular I'd like to put a plug in for as you talked about reducing the pension obligations right off the bat some of the risk mitigation funds that we were talking about earlier so as you well know council member one of the things that before before the the the disaster of last October the long-term finance committee had actually talks very specifically about some of these items and I think where our plan is to bring those back into consideration and and find where the one-time money is to start to do this and one-time money potentially on an annual basis so that we can we can depress some of these costs long term so it absolutely is in the in the conversation and we'll be we'll be revisiting those topics in the near future I appreciate that and I wanted to specifically put that flag in related to the amortization conversation around our pension obligations because right now I think it'll be really easy going into next year to try to rely on that additional million dollars for some of the other city's priorities when we know that long term that's actually going to have as big if not a bigger impact than some of the other priorities that we're spending dollars on so I just wanted to make sure that we flag that as well thank you for the presentation other questions yep thank you mayor first thank you very much and I I really want to thank all of the staff who I think are are aware of the difficulty that we're in and have have done quite a yeoman's job in bringing us even this far I agree with my colleague that it's important for us to see the the rest of the documents so that we understand what might be coming if by chance we are unable to convince the public that we really seriously do need the the measure o that is coming forward on the ballot I'm and in light of that I'm wondering what is the community engagement process for explaining these cuts for explaining what the slowdown is likely to be and why so that the community isn't surprised that this is happening do we have a discussion going on with regard to the community engagement around these service reductions I'm hoping you all will spread the word I mean we're trying to meet as many as folks as we can that the challenge is is that unlike in past ballot initiatives we weren't wrestling with the ongoing issues of a of a disaster and a recovery process so I I'll say we've had some open houses they around the community community advisory board I mean in the past they had been attended by folks they're very few I would say there's an incredible amount of pressure on citizens right now to attend a variety of informational and input sessions there's one going on tonight around the state housing and community development is somehow timed a conversation about cdbg dr to correspond with a city council meeting it is a lot we're trying our best there's been a tremendous amount of information going out we we would be willing to go and have conversations with anybody that you are able to identify as a council staff is would make themselves available for that but we're this is part of the process is laying out this particular going through this process is is we're we're planning to move forward with these reductions thank you I have two cards from folks who want to speak to the budget reduction strategy here nick caston he'll be followed by adrian lobby all right thank you mr. mayor and city council members this is obviously a difficult time to be in your positions I want to preface my comments by saying that you know as a resident of san rosa I definitely want the police department to be able to respond if we're in an emergency if I have a medical emergency I want the fire department to respond and I always want to be able to go to my parks and have them clean so my comments are not intended to be against any of the other departments but instead to share my experience with you as a land use consultant and a registered advocate within the city who works with the planning and economic development department quite extensively planning and economic development department services are fee-based a lot of our clients give money to the city for those fees I would highly encourage you to look at that budget and not filling those positions not just in the context of the budget savings but also in the opportunity cost lost from not being able to get those fees into serve our clients and our clients include cannabis companies we're working with housing developers that want to take advantage of some of the recent cuts you've made and the other opportunity cost is how quickly we get these businesses and housing units up and running one of the biggest delays is the cumulative delay between the planning department and the engineering department and traffic department fire and getting all the comments in on a project in order for us to then be able to respond to them and get our consultants working and running if you don't have this engineer position if you don't have this development coordinator if you don't have these positions those delays will add up and we'll have weeks upon weeks of additional services you know additional delays and getting the projects up and running that's very significant when you consider the retail cannabis projects going forward not only do you receive sales taxes including measure o if it passes in november from those sales but you also have a three percent gross receipts tax on each of those sales in those retail outlets you only have three operating right now there were 37 currently going through the building process that is a significant opportunity cost for every month they're not open so when looking at these cuts i would encourage you to ask to see both sides of the ledger typical accounting practice what is the revenue we're going to miss by not having this fee for service employee on staff what is the revenue we're going to miss from the delays that will go into these projects coming up and running and what could those have funded there's a significant amount of cannabis revenue coming in from less than 10 operating businesses in the city right now are what got us to that 496 thousand dollars imagine what will happen when we have a robust industry as you've envisioned as regional center for this industry that is going to be revenue that will be an opportunity lost with these proposed cuts and i'd encourage you to insist on fulfilling those positions thank you for your time adria lobby thank you for the time i've been watching uh for a while now and it's extremely painful to and i i apologize or i feel sorry for all of us who are sitting here seeing the kinds of things that are going to have to happen uh it's a major budget deficit there's just no way to make it nice but i do notice that there's quite a bit of discrepancy between the police and the fire department cuts and the cuts to the other departments and i'm not going to labor over the point but i this is a study session so you're not making decisions and i would encourage you to send the staff back to make these cuts be more equalized there are many important uh staff positions and functions and roles that are going to be cut if this goes forward and i think we need to share the pain thank you thank you i'm going back to the council i just want to thank the staff um all the staff for the work on this this is never easy but i think that the the material that's been brought to us today reflects a lot of creativity and thoughtfulness it's very measured and and to the public i want to say that don't mistake the lack of tearing our hair and and wailing and and uh and lack of emotion here for lack of pain we understand that we're talking about real jobs real paychecks and real people uh and though we're able to look at this in the context of of primarily vacant positions the impacts are very real and not just on internal and external customers as we call them but on the people who are are left in those jobs to take up the slack and to the employees of this organization and and to the managers of this organization i hope you'll take back to your employees the appreciation of the city council we know that this is tough on everybody in in in this city government it'll be tough on on the citizens as well but the the employees are going to bear the brunt so i would i want to thank you for this effort any further comments from the council mr. Sawyer thank you mayor and thank you for those words um very truthful i don't think we can overemphasize the severity of the challenge this before not only the the council in the in the months to come but also the city center rosa and its residents depending especially on what happens in october we've been talking about rightsizing our organization for quite some time now actually and this is an opportunity although forced upon us to do just that and in essence we are redefining how the city of Santa Rosa's organization functions and we will be redefining what means what core means what is a core service uh to us and to you these things will change we will what what we consider core services may very well become luxuries time will tell these are painful discussions but they are necessary and doing anything other than having this kind of conversation and having to right size or redefine our city anything other than doing that would be being dishonest to you and to our organization and to the employees that we depend on so much so that we have difficult days ahead we i remember going through this in a way uh during the the recession and i have a fear that this may actually make that look like a walk in the park assuming we have parks to walk in after this very difficult conversation so hold on to your hats it's not going to be a pleasant ride and get the word out regarding the election in november it's very very serious and we could absolutely use that nine million dollars for the next six years it will make the pain less but it will not eliminate it thank you Mr. Oliver's thank you mayor uh i would echo councilmember Sawyer's comments related to the recession that we went through because we did make some significant cuts then uh did some recovery but not full recovery so we're still uh even smarting from that time uh and again uh going back to the city manager's initial comments about the dire times that we are in this is uh truly a crisis probably in the verge of an emergency for us here in santa rosa and it's not going to be easy and it's going to hurt you know and it's true uh what the city attorney said about we are all in this together and that includes the community it was good to see some community members here i know more are here for the four o'clock session and i hope that many are watching at home to see how serious this really is but i also don't want to minimize the value of the vacancies that we currently have we have them we have those positions on the books for a reason there are tasks associated with those even though they're not filled at the time the pain will be a little bit less but the service cuts are still going to be there and and i i'm hoping that we don't continue on and i know there's been some adjustments to that that it's not going to be just straight across the board 10 percent from all the departments i think that there will be varying degrees of consequences and making these reductions as that's why i ask some of these questions because really it's it's it's it's a lot and i think more than ever we as a council we as a city need to maintain a high level of transparency as we go through this process to make sure that the community is engaged and informed and we cannot we cannot look at this solely by the numbers it comes down to looking at how we critically examine our core services here in the city and and this includes maintaining public safety infrastructure other things are very important we also need to recognize and i i would hope that when this comes back that we have some information related to the number of 24-hour departments that we have you know we are not an eight to five city and we forget about that there's a lot of departments besides police and fire that are out there doing things after hours as well and i think it's going to be important for us to understand what that is and you know and our personnel costs are high but again we're not an automated system system you know it happens because people are out there working some of the things that i think are going to be important coming back is to really and i asked them the questions today but i think we need to have more thought in this and discussion within the departments is what are the worst-case scenarios in making these cuts it's important to understand what's going to happen and the public needs to understand that it's and we've already heard some what are the impacts of making these cuts in one department to another department and vice versa this can be very important because i looking at the numbers it's not going to if that's our projection it's not just about that because there's also going to be overtime cost we have overtime costs now related to staffing shortages and service needs so we need to find a way of of addressing that tracking that and projecting that because we will be reducing some cost maybe services but there could be some essential services that will continue that will result in overtime it will so i think it's important for us to look at how we're going to be able to track that over time and you know clearly it is easier to staff some departments and others based on how the turnaround time in hiring so i hope that we do look at doing more study even within the organization as far as staffing you know again we're lean but and i and i hear reorganization but we need to continue to look at that uh and and let's not lose sight of course of the fee increases that are potential out there and also fee losses based on what we do what are we going to lose by not doing some of the things we're going to be doing so we have a lot of work ahead of us and i look forward to this coming back to us with some more critical thinking thank you anyone else yes miss coles thank you mayor and again i want to agree with my colleagues in thinking staff for bringing this forward this is a difficult conversation and it will be more difficult if the measure in november does not pass um i dread having that conversation where we must make reductions that are twice this this set of reductions if not more um i'm finding it really difficult to to call this right sizing um we have some departments that are anorexic that have not ever recovered from the cuts of 2008 and um doing additional cuts or failing to provide those services um i don't i don't feel comfortable calling that right sizing um we talk about we are having a conversation about core services but it is clear that we are eliminating services that provide prevention uh prevention of provide activity for example as we cut the parks department we are cutting activities that cause folks to want to move here cause quality of life services so we're going to stimulate our housing construction have higher density it becomes even more important for us to have parks in order to prevent some of the criminal activity or to prevent or to bring in the opportunity the job opportunities that we're seeking um in addition we are not filling maintenance concerns we are putting those maintenance costs on the future generations um every time we don't pave a road it costs us seven times more to pave it in the future so um we are far from lean we we are seriously in trouble and uh it's very important that we do many of these cuts but we cannot see them i think as coming into alliance with where we should be as a lean department we are significantly cutting to the bone in areas where we are just postponing feeling the costs um i am sorry to have to be doing this as i'm sure all of our staff is too and i'm sure my colleagues are um and i very much hope that we can express to the community the the need that we have to be funded fully for several years and that we can convince the community to support the measure that would provide the six years of revenues to make up for some of the cuts that we haven't discussed yet so again thank you staff for bringing this forward thank you um mr mcglennan i i just want to like to thank the council for allowing us to have this conversation today but i really want to thank my colleagues which are all the employees of the city of santa rosa i get to stand on some pretty wonderful shoulders uh every day um and i i have to tell the community this is an incredibly inventive creative dedicated team they are pulling extra hours to make sure that the community not only advances but actually recovers fully in ways that i think we'll be able to start to talk about more fully in the future but it is it is a incredibly dedicated resilient group of people um that i get to work with and i just want to take a moment to thank them thanks all right um with that we'll conclude our two o'clock study session we are running about three about an hour behind no more than an hour we're gonna have to run another 10 minutes behind because we need to take a break to reboot the the media room and the technical system so we're going to take a 10-minute break thank you for your patience and then call the meeting back to order and uh we'll start with our regular calendar as Gomez would you announce the role please let the record show that all council members are present with the exception of council member combs and vice mayor rogers okay we had no closed session today and um our study session i think everybody was here for that on to uh proclamations and presentations and mr. Sawyer is going to read this one thank you and carmelita and cecilia you want to you can either have a seat or i'm just this this new environment so whereas the city sanarosa has proclaimed the second week of october as code enforcement officer appreciation week and whereas code enforcement officers provide for the safety health and welfare of citizens of the city of sanarosa through the enforcement of local state and federal laws and ordinances dealing with various issues of building zoning housing animal control environmental health and life safety and whereas the code enforcement officers have challenging and demanding roles and often do not receive recognition for the job they do in in improving quality of life for residents and businesses of local communities and whereas the role of many code enforcement officers has expanded in recent years with jurisdictions increasingly relying on the expertise and training of code enforcement officers in their communities and whereas code enforcement officers are dedicated highly qualified and highly trained professionals who share the goals of preventing neighborhood deterioration enhancing communities ensuring safety and preserving property values through knowledge training and application of housing zoning and nuisance laws and whereas code enforcement officers often have a highly visible role in the city of sanarosa and regularly interact with the public and a variety of federal state county and local officials in their capacity as code enforcement officers and whereas the city of sanarosa wants to recognize the honor the the code enforcement officers that serve our community and acknowledge their role in leading the way to improve quality of life within our community now therefore be resolved that chris coursey mayor of the city sanarosa on behalf of the entire city council to hear about proclaim the second week of october 2018 and annually thereafter as code enforcement officer appreciation week in the city of sanarosa and calls upon the residents of our city to join in recognizing and expressing their appreciation for the dedication and services of the individuals who serve as our code enforcement officers assigned by the mayor on this date congratulations good afternoon mayor coursey and members of the city council my name is carmelita howard and we are here today to be one of the cities in california that recognizes this week as cold enforcement awareness week our very own cecilia civillia who is a member of the board of directors in charge of education for the california code enforcement officers association we'll talk about our code enforcement successes they've impacted the health and safety of the city this year good afternoon mayor coursey and members of the city council i would first like to thank you for the opportunity to sit before you on this very important day for code enforcement my name is cc civillia and i'm one of the many code enforcement officers that serve your city along a hardworking and dedicated team of code enforcement officers as i already mentioned or as already was mentioned i am a board of director with the california association of code enforcement officers and i'm tasked with ongoing training of code enforcement officers throughout the state of california so that we can effectively equip all officers throughout the state and provide much need of training to execute inspections to safeguard health and safety of the communities we serve code enforcement is and has been a vital element of cities and counties throughout our nation our department's overall goal to safeguard the community that we serve by protecting the health and welfare of the constituents of the city of san aroza is demonstrated in many successes from our department some of which i will share with you today the astro motel located just around the corner from our offices was plagued with substandard conditions putting at risk the health and welfare of its occupants and the public in a combined effort with srpd and srfd the astro motel has most recently had a new facelift as you may have already seen bringing the building to a healthy state and no longer creating an attractive nuisance 550 richmond drive has been a known property for over 20 years in the city of san aroza this was a severely substandard residence with heavy foot traffic that included drug abuse and directly affected the neighboring properties and residents of that street following a drug abatement core order and in a combined effort again with law enforcement and the city's legal team we were able to go to court on an abatement order and clean up that property which is currently being rehabbed that has in turn lifted the health and prosperity of that neighborhood allowing for those neighbors to feel safe and secure in their homes the tubs nuns fire is one of the biggest topics for all of our city and coming up on the anniversary of that next week it hits close to home for all of us the code enforcement team played a vital role in the assessment of damaged properties caused by the horrific fire a certified safety assessment evaluators through the governor's office of emergency services or cal oes the code enforcement team quickly and swiftly responded to aid our community in assessing properties for damage and safety though it was a daunting and heartbreaking task we came together to help our beautiful san aroza as you can see there is no task too small no job too big for your code enforcement team lastly we would like to thank you mayor and members of the city council as well as our fire police building and legal departments for the continual support as we work alongside all of you for the betterment of our community thank you thank you miss howard this is the all the members of the code enforcement team move on to item seven staff briefings item 7.1 fire recovery and rebuild updates we're going to have a brief presentation led by david gewin thank you david gewin director of planning and economic development we have two quick updates for you tonight first i want to introduce to you leo de pala he is the new permit center into permit center manager for the rebuild office steve jensen who i mentioned a couple weeks ago retired leo came to us from as the former cd director and building official for the city of chico he's we were very fortunate to have him here running our rebuild center it'll be working and reporting to jesse our chief building official he's already jumped in is getting up to speed on everything and i think he's going to be a great addition to that rebuild center as we move forward into year number two and the second thing i wanted i'm sorry he is here and thank you thank you he's over here thank you so he just started on monday so he'll be up at room six running that center the second item we have i sent to email around last night to the council about rebuild now that we had our first reign of the season how that's going to affect the rebuild and we've been working jesse's been working with our stormwater team for the all day to with the regional board figure out what the process is going to be and jesse has an update on that good evening mr. mayor and council members so david's update yesterday pointed out some potential restrictions that were impending on on the rebuild specifically the general restrictions that occur this time of year they they are in effect from october 1st until april 30th every year and this is under our what we generally refer to as our ms4 permit and what it's really is it's the it's our permit for national pollutant discharge elimination system also known as npds and what it really is it's about protecting our waterways fish and wildlife and the the discharges that local jurisdictions have into those systems so the issue that arose and does every year is that generally we're not allowed to grade on any slopes over 10 so you can envision what that means essentially for the effect on the fountain grove recovery so we had some discussions with developers early on in the week and we've been reaching out to them through through actually the last few months but it came really to fruition in the october 1st deadline through that we've immediately embarked on some discussions with developers and present and former members and executive members of the regional water quality control board and through those discussions that have been ongoing we proposed to the board to look at our restrictions in the area through a different lens with our co-permittees which we have about eight different jurisdictions including the county that are all part of this permit and looking at how we view grading so to speak as defined in our permit so with our proposal to view these sites as not really not literally grading but their preparation and restoration to previously used and approved heights and locations on lots for reconstruction of homes the proposal also included in increased monitoring inspections additional measures sampling and public outreach not just to contractors who have control of sites but also homeowners luckily about an hour ago i received communication through our storm water management team from the water quality board that they're accepting of our our approach and are agreeable to the definition of grading in that our operations here do not constitute grading so we'll be able to continue to work through the winter any questions i'll answer them and any more good news i was here to basically give bad news but that's great news for us i believe and i can answer any other questions that is good news thank you questions thank you jessie and david anything else on staff briefings today mr mcglenn nothing else any yes miss combs i i had thought we would be hearing something with regard to manufactured home parks it's been requested a couple of times and i just thought it might be coming um i will make sure it is brought forward next time i was not aware of that request but i will make sure it's brought forward and i do have one card is john allen here mr allen good afternoon mr mayor and members of council i'm john allen chief operations officer for apm homes our company is currently rebuilding homes in uh coffee park and fountain grove for fire survivors it is with the most sincere felt gratitude that i wanted to personally thank you mayor corsie for your outstanding leadership during last year's october wildfires when our community was suffering a devastating disaster you and members of the city council provided the support and leadership that this community so desperately needed in the wake of the fire the city and county immediately went to work addressing the needs of its residents with the help of many others a mass rebuilding effort was forming i am extremely honored and humbled to be a part of this effort and it is this effort of rebuilding homes in our community that the council has been fully behind in supporting city staff i would like to give special recognition to a few who have gone above and beyond in their efforts to make this rebuild effort a reality david guin, gabe osburn, bob oller, jesse oswald, brian baybine, Karen lazata, deb laine, vicki england, scott moon of santa rosa fire, ian heart heartage of santa rosa fire, tina franklin of santa rosa fire all of those in room three of planning and economic development and all of those in room six of resilient city and as well as the county board of supervisors it is because of the commitment and dedication of those and let mentioned that apm homes will be able to deliver a home to a fire survivor before the one-year anniversary while attending the heroes of october event last sunday i saw a little sign in a restaurant that read santa rosa is not just a city we're a community i again thank you all for your continued dedication and resiliency as our community moves forward after last year's fire thank you thank you mr allen moving on to uh item eight mr city manager any report nothing to report and miss city attorney uh yes i have before you um quarterly report of settlements and active litigation um we'll acknowledge that this has actually um been delayed and so this is the last three quarters um i'm going to just give a quick summary um exhibit a our settlements um that we have already discussed previously i won't go over those those are just two of them exhibit b is pending litigation we have 32 cases total i'm going to give just a broad summary of the numbers we have three receivership cases these all arise out of code enforcement it's been a very effective tool in bringing properties into compliance where the property owner is either absent or not able to address um the property issues so three receivership cases we have two of those have been resolved we have five land use cases they are all rid of mandamus cases two we've obtained judgment for the city each of those cases both of those cases were appealed and we got uh affirmed the judgment for the city affirmed on appeal as well three of those cases are still active and still pending other matters all include civil rights claims personal injury wrongful death negligence labor and employment matters and some other issues and claims in six cases we've obtained negotiated dismissals complete dismissals of the case most of those were with a waiver of costs so it costs the city nothing um no additional payment those were civil rights cases and personal injury cases one case we resolved in the city's favor through demur that's very early in the process it's by motion we've had two trials um obtained judgment for the city in both cases um one of those was a five-day jury trial jury came back in less than half an hour with a judgment in favor of the city we have upcoming trials set in five cases those trials the first of those is set for december um then it runs all the way through june and that also is a variety of cases including civil rights claims labor and employment matters personnel personal injury i'm sorry and wrongful death and then we have 10 remaining cases in active litigation in various stages of litigation some early in the in the proceedings on pleading some motions others in the discovery process others getting ready to move towards a trial setting and that includes the city's action against PG&E which is um as we're moving along is taking more and more of our staff time of our two attorneys that are assigned to that absorbing a considerable amount of their time we also have in exhibit c 25 new claims that have been referred to our office and again a variety of claims um same civil including civil rights dangerous condition of public property personal injury wrongful death and then a number of fire related claims and we're monitoring those and working with the risk manager um to resolve those and address those so that is the quarterly report happy to address any questions thank you council any questions thank you very much any statements of abstention tonight mr mayor i think you're going to be voting on one of the uh library uh positions uh one of them will be ours i was not present during those interviews i will be abstaining from that vote and i also was not present in those interviews so i will be abstaining and uh mayors and council reports who wants to go first mr olivaris you you are leading the way tonight i'm on fire tonight but you know what this was uh uh we a little neglect on our part we've been kind of like this last month i know we were way at a conference but we had a very significant birthday celebration here last month and we forgot to acknowledge here at the council so uh thank you to everybody who came out for 150th birthday celebration in court out square uh very well attended a lot of great activities and i think it'll be a very memorable moment my uh grandkids were there and i hope they're back there 50 years from now to unveil that time capsule and share it with their siblings relatives and whoever else is around with them but it was a fabulous event this is soyer thank you mayor to mirror the words of of councilmember olivaris regarding the sesquicentennial with a group of us just met last night to do a recap on the great success that it was not only for the community but everyone who who participated both here on the council and in courthouse square that day was very memorable and for the all of those youngsters that will be able to look back when they are 60 something and remember that remember that afternoon i'm sure it will be something that they will never forget and it was a great event for those who were able to participate mr rogers thank you mr mayor uh last week we had a chance myself councilmember squad helm city staff and board of supervisors had a chance to sit down with housing and community development to talk a little bit about the unmet need dollars that are going to be hopefully coming into this community and really sort of hear their first plans for how they'd like to dictate how those dollars will be spent will be i'm sure having a much more robust conversation about it was very interesting to sit there and have them turn over to us a plan as if it was settled rather than a negotiation or a discussion with the entities we also had the final planning meeting for our one-year remembrance as a reminder to the council and to the public it will be a two-day event the kickoff will be at six o'clock on the eighth in courthouse square there will be a couple of poems that are written there will be the ringing of the bell from the firefighters remember the lives that were lost during the fire and then there will also be kicking off chalk squares on the square where anybody can come and check out the chalk and fill out their own square whether it is thank you picture depiction a gripe about how the rebuild is going the really will be an opportunity for us to turn our city center into a living entity where people can really express how they're feeling one year out from the remembrance so i hope folks will come out for that both on the eighth and then all the way through the ninth we will have grief counselors on on site as well so hope to see you all there thank you miss cones i have a couple of things the the main item as i think i mentioned last time i had meeting with the cossa the committee to house the bay area in san francisco and in fact ended up with three days of housing cossa related meetings in san francisco last week i read to you all last tuesday the 17 items in the compact that are going to continue to move forward those 17 items were continued to be discussed it looks as if that's the plan but it is still in draft form in addition there was a financing conversation and in order for the region as a whole the nine bay area counties to meet our very low and low housing needs it was determined that we needed on the order of 1.68 billion dollars as a region to move to move housing again only at the low and very low affordability levels forward so there was much conversation about where such funds could come from and a series of shall we call them buckets were identified each of them with a 100 million dollar payout so that there were all these buckets and could we do this and get 100 million here and could we do that and get 100 million there it was an enlightening conversation to say the least and it would be interesting to see if any of those would pass the buckets were sorted out by whether it's the general public developers philanthropy there were a variety of categories in addition some areas have been selected for special consideration within the compact as sensitive communities Santa Rosa and Sonoma County has some of these sensitive communities this is similar to communities of concern but Santa Rosa often is not included in communities of concern so this is a slightly different definition from what is normally used as a state definition for communities of concern I have materials that include the maps for this within Santa Rosa most of this is west of highway 101 not all of it southwest but all of it west of highway 101 within Sonoma County in addition to the Santa Rosa area there's an area in the east probably around Boys Hot Springs Agua Caliente I have some concerns these are based on census tracks and communities and census tracks are not perfectly aligned so it may be that we want to make some comments with regard to these regions in addition South Park was not included and neither was the Kiwana Springs sort of long thin area just east of highway 101 that is a food desert and it may be that we want to talk about including historically redlined neighborhoods or neighborhoods that have food desert in the definitions so that additional regions of concern could be added we are seeing moving forward within Casa strong linking discussions between transportation funding and additional special housing funding and that the linking would come in terms of progress on both Rena and on the community having in place preservation protection and production policies all three so in addition to the emerging compact we're seeing what they're calling a geography of inclusion a regional housing trust fund moving forward that would be separate from a bag mtc or in some combination with that and some interesting funding and financing plans i brought materials on all of the topics and i will leave them and make them available to staff and to us in the in the room upstairs that said i am asking a question i've i'm pretty sure we had a conversation about the non-discrimination regarding voucher holders i thought we had had at least some part of the votes to move that forward but i haven't seen the next step and i'm wondering when the next step in moving forward that conversation occurs i didn't see it on the up-and-coming meetings list or in the pending conversation and i thought i'd had a motion in a second and i don't remember where we went after that so i didn't want that to be lost i'd like us to find that i also see that the rental inspection program is listed in pending and i'm just hoping we can see a discussion of how that can come forward and how how within the context of a rental inspection program we home displaced persons who are in substandard living conditions that has come up as a as a conversation outside of the council chambers that i've had folks come and say you know we're going to be displaced because the structure we're living in is not to code but they don't have a place to go live and how do we have that conversation and i'm also wondering if the if it's assumed that we'll have the price gouging ordinance discussion again before december or if that's going to come out of a subcommittee and i'm just asking if that's coming forward or if we need to make a motion for that to come forward and i just need feedback on where we are with regard to our price gouging ordinance which will end in december but i don't think we've built the housing that we lost in the fire that made us implement that ordinance so i'm not making the motion right now but i'd like to know if it's coming forward automatically or if we need to make a motion i'm making notes on all these thank you very much i appreciate we'll get some answers to you thanks any other mayors and council reports um i just want to thank councilman soyer for his work on the sesquicentennial committee i know that uh council member schwethelm also worked on that very hard but the committee that that's been working on this for more than a year at least a year and a half did a really good job it was a nice event all right uh moving on to the board in commission appointments the library commission appointments is galger i i do have a question for you on this i was not present for the interviews i have read the um applications of all four applicants i should i recuse myself from this boat or if i'm comfortable making a choice can i do that i would recommend that you recuse yourself having missed the interviews all right we'll do then i'm going to turn the honors over to the vice mayor on this one thank you mr mayor so miss gomez can you explain the process that you'd like us to use for our ballots this evening so you have two ballots in front of you the first one we're going to go through is the joint city county library commissioner appointment we only have one vacancy so council members can vote between the four that were interviewed and that is sam mufford Sharon Dazurek Karen schneider and david cahill so i will begin with council member combs if you can please do a roll call vote really fast forward if we could for the joint city county library commissioner i know that this body saw this as a recommendation from the board of supervisors and we'd ask that it go back so that the mayor had an opportunity to speak with the chairman of the board about this appointment is there a little history on what actually happened if i may i did have a conversation with the chairman of the board of supervisors about this it is not a recommendation the board of supervisors did make it make a choice on this there needs to be an agreement with the city so if we have a different person that we put forward we will need to resolve that but it's not necessarily a recommendation they've just made it a choice on their own it needs to be resolved at some point can you remind us who they put forward as as an individual that would have been sam mcbane mofford great thank you so much so miss combs you'd like us to vote first on the joint city county once one individual is selected will then do the city's appointment is that correct that's correct great can you clarified for us i noticed that all of the excuse me i noticed that all of the names are on both lists but it was my recollection that at least one of the names was not a city resident so should not appear on both lists that is correct so sam mcbane mofford should not would not be one of your options for the city only library commissioner thank you and are we doing a countdown vote or do we offer one vote and there's only one round of voting so there could be several rounds of voting in what you have in front of you because we only have one vacancy and you have four four options for selections you can select up to three applicants and then we can round off to the next so we're not going after that then we don't necessarily vote a second round you you do go the second round if you don't get a majority so if we get a majority on the first round then we don't move forward well that'll be your selection that's slightly a slightly different process than what we have done in the past but i understand what you're saying you're saying if one person succeeds in making a majority that that stops the voting and that we don't do another round even though we had assigned multiple votes during that round okay yeah and that's the process of elimination so if you'd have a majority there's nobody it's a little different and i think outcomes can be different doing it the other way but i understand what we're doing council member soyer thank you mr vice-mayor for clarification um i remember having this conversation if we don't if we do not support the the if we don't end up supporting the boards recommended commissioner and we can't vote on someone who's not a senator as a resident and mr mcbain mufford is not a resident miss then we then we support a different person um can we and then the county ends up not going along with our recommendation is it possible that we could appoint the same person to both positions and then they they allow them to um fulfill the one that they end up with because this is it's it's creating a difficulty yes i know so if for some reason if the council chooses someone outside of who the county recommended i'm going to give them the results and then they can take it to their board and then they can vote just as we're doing and we go back and forth until okay we come to a consensus thank you mr isk can i just clarify i got something i lost we will be voting on two separate positions the joint city county one position and then city alone position correct thank you all right so just to be very clear as mud uh for the first round would you like us to vote for only one individual or for three individuals council can vote for up to three okay and if there is a majority then that individual wins on the first ballot that's correct okay great do you want to call the roll or would you like us to use our i would like i would like to call the roll councilmember combs we are voting on the joint city county library commissioner that's correct we're avoiding yes i'm going to vote for Sharon desert karen schneider and david k-hill councilmember soyer dr schneider councilmember schlett-hell david k-hill councilmember tibbetz desert schneider k-hill vice mayor rogers dr schneider and schneider has got the majority so she will move forward and i will present this information to the county great now for the second ballot uh with dr schneider as our first choice can she still be voted for in our second choice very excuse me as our choice for the city's appointee should she not move forward as the joint i have that's i don't know the answer to that question that's never come up before um you you have two representations you have one that's a joint at the library commissioner and then you have one that's just a city representative so if you elect to do that i can provide that result to them i would may i ask if i may if we select the same person for both positions and the counties accepts our recommendation then we can vote again because that position would go to the joint position and we could then later fill the city position yes um and you would have two two options in doing that one would be if you vote for the city position and she is selected for the city position as well that could be made conditional on if she is accepted by the county for the joint position she will not take this the city and you could you could have a second person in line tonight in your vote or you could decide to bring it back um at the next meeting to the county acts um and after that settled which could could go back and forth um you could do it either way so you could have a backup or you could wait and and see what how it all plays out and then didn't select so i'm going to make a suggestion to to counsel that uh first i my understanding is that sam mcbane muffered is no longer in consideration as it is a city position so let's go ahead cross that name off of our city ballot let's take a vote on one individual one vote if we get a majority we'll move that person forward and then let's take a second vote on the remaining two as a backup to send as well in the event that if that process plays out where dr schneider is chosen for both does that work for everybody great go ahead call the roll okay councilmember combs dr schneider if you could please use the mic just because i i'm sorry that i did dr karen schneider thank you councilmember soyer so we're just it's just one name now schneider councilmember schweinhelm one more time schneider oh thank you councilmember tibbet schneider vice mayor rogers dr schneider okay so dr schneider will move on both as the suggested for the joint city county position and then if not selected we'll fall into our city position let's take a vote between Sharon dessert and david k-hill for our second position in the event that we need it miss Gomez councilmember combs i'm pointing this a difficult one uh david k-hill councilmember soyer david k-hill councilmember schweinhelm k-hill councilmember tibbet's k-hill vice mayor rogers k-hill thank you great thank you so much who said that was going to be hard item 10.3 uh request for an agenda item and this was a request from councilmember tibbet's before we do this what was the and i apologize i've been out of town for a while but what was the reason this was continued on september 25th you were out of town thank you mr. mayor so i i'll just explain a little bit why i think it's a really good idea to open our community housing assistance program as we all know there is a large group of people who are experiencing homelessness in our community and the prior council in my opinion developed a really solid plan with the community housing assistance program it was basically the idea that we would allow or help present the community the opportunity to help with the temporary sheltering of homeless people and uh unfortunately though i think where the policy perhaps fell short was in i think some of the zoning requirements as well as some of the restrictions on the shelters used and it's my understanding that the california association of counties has come up with a resolution that allows communities that have the emergency homelessness declaration to look at alternative structures and i think that's something that the council should look look at but i think what we also need to look at is is there the opportunity for residential units to take say one person um rick's using residentially zoned areas along with other zoned areas um i just i'd really like to open it up because i i see the struggles that the council is going through we have our housing first policy it seems to be working but there also seems to be a lot of neighborhood impacts going on and i think that this really will help us address what's going on out there i think my colleague has said it very well and um with regard to the alternative housing options there has been some confusion i i believe it's a state agency hcd there may be more than one um that has very recently proposed what temporary shelters can look like we have a group that have created huts and it turns out the huts don't meet the requirements that the new hcd guidelines are for temporary housing and uh the tough shed model in oakland and i believe that there are some other cities that are doing some similar models um do meet the requirements from hcd from the state agencies so those requirements we need to discuss and decide whether we would accept them um and we need to change the way we have our emergency ordinance uh written in order to to ensure that we meet the criteria to use those alternative code sections um each of these uh seemed to me to be a reason for us to uh to move forward and look again at uh our chat program and at our alternative housing options that are indicated within the language of the chat program that's why it's coming forward this is um a uh item that will only decide whether to put this on a future agenda are there other questions from the council to yes mr swedhelm thank you mr mayor it actually be for staff um just as this body i think it was our last council meeting we were doing the homeless system redesigning with the new continuum of care and we know we're also continuing of care is going to have to be making some decisions about the uh the heat funding and i just want to know if we go in this direction what impact will that have on city staff because we have this other effort going forward um that is i'm guessing our housing and community services is going to be significantly involved making the assumption that they would also have to prepare the staff report for this so i'd like to know what impact would this have so i i i think we'd be prepared maybe to have a conversation when there this would be agendized for a future discussion about what the parameters we're looking for right now it's it's i i vaguely get it but i i don't have a way to respond right now and on the heels of our previous conversations about capacity um it does concern me i just don't know i i need to sit down with the team and so if it advances tonight we'll be able to come back and talk about what that means but you know we're i'm not prepared right now that to have that conversation yet um i for advances we'll we'll we'll do some analysis but that's where we're sitting okay and i can appreciate it i guess my my my concern is because that that heat money from the state the decision's going to be made in december that's like tomorrow um i would love to have this conversation because i am interesting further in the conversation maybe in july or something but to do it now because i know this coc redesign is going to take a significant amount of energy and i'm not sure this is a focus area that um i could support at this point i want to have a discussion but just the timing just doesn't work for me mr tibis thank you mr mayor one thing i want to also follow up and say is that i don't see this is actually requiring resources per se from heat that's not my my intent with the discussion maybe it goes there but but again what we're seeing out in the community are impacts to people who are experiencing homelessness and impacts to neighborhoods and i think that especially after this body developed the resilient city ordinance i'd see it as very possible and feasible and i think we have a bit of an obligation uh to be able to look at the same thing to help empower residents with property to provide temporary belief safe parking in a driveway for example uh to somebody who's experiencing homelessness which could create a diffuse solution for the folks who are unwilling to go into shelter don't have access to a shelter bed or housing um this is is merely something i i don't know how i would describe it but it's um it is not in any way shape or form meant to pull too many resources other than i recognize staff time from uh the heap and housing first conversation Mr. Sawyer thank you mayor well i just want to explain um why i'm at a vote the way i do the um what we did last week with the stoma county homeless system of care and i asked specifically if this type of issue would be dealt with in that environment and it was very very clear to me that it would be and um i would not object at all if this item this particular subject matter was brought up as a priority with that group because it is controversial and there are those that would suggest it's an easy solution i disagree i think it will create a great deal of conversation and angst in the community it is it is it is a big it is a big conversation that i think would be helpful to have in that larger environment with the county and um although i i'll repeat i would really um love to have them tackle that as their first item of of um discussion but i don't feel like i want to preempt their role and responsibility in that regard Mr. Rogers thank you mr mayor uh i actually uh with all the respect councilmember i heard the exact opposite uh when i asked that question last week about the continuum of care uh my understanding from staff was they will make recommendations uh once they look at a policy in the aggregate but that it's actually up to the local cities on implementing those policies where the the part that i think you're entirely correct on is that the funding streams will start to align to be able to be spent on that so i think in terms of this conversation particularly when councilmember tidbits is not talking about realigning how we're spending the dollars but more using our building code in a way that can try to help get us to that that more complex policy discussion i'm happy for us to have that conversation with the understanding from staff last week that anything that does come to come out of that homeless continuum of care is is non-binding and that cities will have an opportunity to make those policy decisions for themselves and i actually think it's a little bit of both of what mr soyer and mr rogers are saying i mean i i really do think that um the idea of having this this single decision-making body for the county is is the the right way to go i'm glad that we all agreed on that last week even though i wasn't here um but i do agree with that i would like to see these issues in that forum but if we need to change some city policies then that needs to be done at the city level so i i would suggest that we do put this on a future agenda we're gonna have to figure out where the capacity is when we can do it it may not be two weeks from now or three weeks from now maybe it may take a little longer but i think it's uh it's something that we can discuss with staff figure out a way to put some parameters around what we're doing and and make make it a little easier for the single decision-making body to have information that they can act on when the time comes mr swaddle i appreciate that um and i would say if this body or if it could be amended this have this as a 2019 conversation because again i'm guessing the coc board it's going to take staff resource and it's just not community development commission resources to make some suggestions as to what direction does the coc want to go with this initial amount of one time funding and to ask our staff to be looking at that working with cdc and this even though that may be part of it i'm just a little hesitant because i haven't been on the staff side that's a lot of things to process in a very short period of time so if we're the direction we give on this is that it's in early 2019 that is something i can spark so i'd like to get discussion but not given that that not being more specific than that i just don't think that we have the staff capacity right now to tackle this piece i'm sensitive to that councilman schwedhelm um but i'd really like to to discuss it with the staff rather than making that decision of whether they can or can't do it before the end of the year at this point um i think that we're ready to vote on this i have a card from mr wagger mr wagger i'm i'm not going to invite you to speak here um this is a we're not debating this tonight we're deciding whether whether to put it on a future agenda and i'd like to call the vote on it that has four eyes with three nos from council members oliveris schwedhelm and soyer so we'll get together with staff and figure out when we can get this back okay thanks moving on to approval of minutes we have two sets of minutes from june and july i was not here for the june 26 meeting so i'll stay out of that one are there any other additions or corrections to either of those sets of minutes or do we need to take those separately miss comas it's not necessary if you want to just abstain and then all right any other corrections additions all right we'll accept those as as submitted moving on to the consent calendar mr mcglenn item 12.1 resolution agreement for business tax administrative services with hdl software llc item 12.2 resolution amendment to the purchase order 154728 to creative bus sales incorporated adding components to previously purchased buses under final construction item 12.3 ordinance adoption second reading ordinance of the council the city of santa rosa amending title 20 of the santa rosa city code adding section 20-16 dot 030 e to chapter 20-16 resilient city developments measures to address waving of capital facilities housing and park impact fees for temporary housing file number rz 1808 item 12.4 ordinance adoption second reading ordinance of the council the city of santa rosa amending title 20 of the santa rosa city code section 20-42 dot 130d 3b utility connection fees to no longer require a new or separate utility connection or related connection fee or capacity charge for accessory dwelling units that are 750 square feet or smaller item 12.5 resolution extension of proclamation proclamation of existence of local emergency due to fires item 12.6 resolution extension proclamation of local homeless emergency if i may make it it's my understanding that this proclamation of local homeless emergency 12.6 does not include the language that we need and that's one of the things we were talking about earlier so i forwarded to the city attorney language from oakland for their homeless emergency proclamation this is the unchanged version is that correct this is the proclamation of local homeless emergency are you referring to the proclamation of shelter crisis okay and the shelter helping me clarify yes and the shelter crisis proclamation we have provided to the state and they have confirmed that that is adequate for for purposes of the of the statue thank you any other questions council thank you got a number of cards here that want to deal with the item on the homeless emergency and we have duplicate cards from a number of people who want to talk about homelessness on items that are not on the agenda if you want to speak on both of these you can speak on both of them now or you can speak on both of them on items not on the agenda but it's if it's on the agenda it's not off the agenda so take your choice here we'll start with tim giga followed by kathryn jurick and i'd like you to be first my name is tim giga gain minister over 20 years now my birthday is on valentine's day yesterday somebody offered me a free ticket to the anniversary of the fire storm and i almost spit my milk out of my mouth thinking about hypocrisy my birthday is on valentine's day the day of love love is thicker than smoke but all i saw was this city blowing smoke up the homeless's life wiping them out you know i'm a writer i wrote the first dictionary of emotions before i turned 30 years old and the only thing that came to mind was the marquis de sade in his practice of saddle masochism and his defined sexual gratification from humiliation pain and criminality and that's what i've witnessed from this city and i have to say i'm embarrassed that's hypocritical and it's not love thank you kathryn jurick followed by anita lafala so this this is not about declaring an emergency crisis this is about what happened on friday i went around corporate center area today to offer rides to residents who witnessed suffered or escaped the city's most recent round of evictions some people said they would come on their own others were afraid to leave their belongings a few gave me some thoughts to share with you a couple didn't have their rv toad west just turned 80 on sunday they're just trying to make it and are really anxious and afraid every time they see the police west is on oxygen oxygen and in hospice closing in on his timeline they both have small incomes from disability and social security their vehicle is registered and has current tags and is in working order but it's old there is no place they can park it in an rv park and they've tried where can we go we just want to go someplace the cops will get off our backs they thanked me for dropping by to visit them another woman wondered why do you keep kicking us out where do we go we just don't have a home otherwise we're just like you guys they dragged my mom's tent across the street and tore a hole in it now it's raining where do you want us to go everywhere i go they come and tell me to leave i have videos of them just coming and throwing everyone's stuff in the garbage they just picked up everything tents clothes everything and threw it away even if someone told them the person would be right back i was at work fortunately my friend packed up my stuff and threw it in the back of the car but then i came back and saw what happened to everyone where do you want us to go that was sort of the recurring theme thank you Anita Lafellette followed by Pat Nicholson Anita Lafellette oh i'm sorry i didn't hear you i was waiting for that name to come up after uh katharine so there's no place to go except for under the tree or back to the sixth street the law of capitalism in this materialism world means that if the rents remain high that's gouging and you ought to look at some of the properties that have continuous vacancies even though we're somewhat in a housing shortage do you know what that's about so the huts were red flagged and all these people in the rvs were kicked out so where are they going to go i think the cuts that you're talking about earlier when i was here need to consider the living structures we can't all live in castles and get cuts in our paychecks so why would you crush an rv when someone's living in it that's a place for them to stay out of the rain you're taking away someone's shelter i don't think this is a community at all i'm not going to any of your events downtown because someone is being treated without rights so listen to us and come to our program at the 12th the spiritual living center and we'll talk about alternatives to shelter because no one can live in the apartments that are available and behind closed doors the continuum of care committee with only one person who was ever homeless at some time in the last five years is somehow going to make the decision about where that money goes because if it can't be spent on alternative housing and the housing that you're building is unavailable for people with low incomes yeah i think you ought to be talking about this instead of putting it on the agenda for next week thank you pat nicholson followed by captain finnegan this would be an easier presentation if i had a screen i could access to present this but we don't so the reason i am i have five questions and i know you can't answer because of rules but i'm asking because i don't know i could guess but i don't know what your answers are so my first question is what is your thinking here second question is what is the goal or purpose or destination you wish to achieve third question over the last four years have you achieved this goal and question five is the path you have chosen to pursue your goal has that proven to work so you're the first question what are you thinking here i can guess that you thought this latest rv park in the corporate circle was not zoned for rv parking and they were messy second question what is the goal isn't the goal to get these people off the street into shelter or housing i don't know is that what you think over the last four years have you achieved this goal no and the path you have chosen to pursue to get this to work hasn't proven effective because you're still dealing with the same problem so my suggestion is that an alternative path needs to be found and implemented and it should happen sooner rather than later because it's going it's wet now and soon it will be cold and wet and if the goal is to house or shelter or get these people off the street somewhere then you need to pursue an alternative path because the path you chose didn't work because there are still folks who are in need of this help and that's how you gauge your success kathleen finnegan followed by dana bellweather good evening mr mayor and council members as you are aware the sonoma county commission on human rights recently declared that there is a systematic and pervasive persecution of homeless people in this county you have declared emergency a home homeless emergency about i don't know for some time for some time and i believe you're about to extend it and so here are some quotations from people from the apollo complex the cramp all the way indicative of how you're treating these people in crisis i took stuff away as i could to my excess storage my partner was very sick with the flu and he tried to help we came back to nothing even though our friend had been there to guard our stuff there were piles of trash around the police left alone but they took our neat piles that were obviously being moved we lost all of our clothes shoes coats phone chargers and cords speakers two laptops papers all of our pet food and gear all of our blankets and our tent i had to go to the bathroom so i went to food max about a half mile away portable toilets are forbidden by the city in that area when i returned my tent was gone and my things were all over the street a lot of people lost all of their belongings they really enjoyed doing that to us you could tell i've never seen such brutal cruelty such hateful cops in my whole life you stand there nearby and laugh you think it's so funny catholic charities when we need them are gone they could give hotel vouchers tonight there's not that many of us left on site it wouldn't have been that expensive lastly lives were destroyed today my friend is coming out of jail to nothing they took everything except what's in this wheelbrow i have no idea where i'm going i'll wander around tonight and figure out what to do tomorrow i'm worried about my friends mr blank and mr blank they are elders my friend is blank is very sick they're both in bad health and i don't know where they are for shame dana bellwether followed by scott wagner good evening i'm dana bellwether i live in santa rosa and i have read descriptions and seen pictures of the police attack on the homeless this most recent weekend and what occurred was not police work which involves policing a community it was crime it was theft it was vandalism um that's not what we pay tax money to hire police to do people some people had bought new tents so that the neighbors wouldn't be looking at old beat-up shabby tents they can't afford that but they went out and bought them anyway brand new tents uh letters from family and sweethearts photos healthcare supplies cd players everything they needed to have any kind of reasonable life were destroyed um that's not what we want people to be doing with our tax money the next time the police organize an attack like that on harmless people please take my part of the money that you would be using to pay them and set it on fire instead that would be a better use of it and please if people would not clap that would take up less of the speaker's time and not drown out the announcement of the next uh speaker um i want you to think about the empty the the long unused properties that i understand that the city and the county own and think about putting people into some of those um do please extend the emergency until there is no longer a homeless emergency maybe the emergency provisions could include uh getting the police to refrain from committing crimes against residents of santa rosa for the duration of the emergency that would be a vast improvement um there are places where homeless people could stay if they were allowed to uh you need to be creative and think of those places you know you know what they are we and catholic charities have been talking with various members of the council for years about this and if they move into tents even there are tents that will keep someone in good health even in winter thank you scott wagner followed by lilet spring thank you mayor i actually i'm speaking specifically about this line item and and and do want to have uh i'm speaking about this line item and do also want to speak about something else that's related but it has to do with homelessness not this this extension of the local homeless emergency i just want to just just want to get back to an original analysis that was done by the the city when this was set up and it reads wonderfully i mean i i really appreciate it it it does a good job of explaining the challenges that the people have out on the street and you know when thus we see this kind of dual nature of government where you know they can pass a a multiple guest test about what's going on outside and list these things uh talking about the point of count point of point of uh point in time count and going through the various challenges that we have that people reside on the streets and alleys and doorways that they're not with they don't have adequate cooking or sanitary facilities my concern is that the emergency proclamation the way that it's done now um is is is something that there there's really no movement towards say the shelter crisis which clearly states that any and all regulations can be waived to chase down this and the chap piece is is a very good example of this and ties in i think with 12.6 because chap is is basically this large tome of things that people that want to help with homelessness get handed as if you can't waive liability when you can in fact as if they have sudden responsibilities that you clearly abdicate with regard to the homeless um so you know we're tying the hands of churches who want to help with homelessness by making very strict strictures for them while we as a city enjoy the privilege of not using those strictures at all and so i'm hoping that what we can do is prepare for the winter by having a conversation around chap that loosens it up in a very important ways thanks through the pieces of it that could really provide a lot of difference because we're not necessarily talking about letting somebody stay in the driveway all over santa rosa we may be talking about letting people get into tents on a specific parking lot or uh tents in a specific parking lot that move every three months the way they do in seattle because they have a consortium of churches that that work in this way so please use this resolution thank you the spring followed by michael to tone the greatest thing that you can do to improve the lives of the unhoused population of santa rosa is to stop just do nothing at all i know there's a lot of asks up here about ways you can provide services that you have not been and those would all help but the greatest thing you can do is to stop actively attacking poor people for being poor stop criminalizing poverty if you're worried about your resources i don't know the exact numbers but i'm sure someone here does of how much money the city has spent on bulldozers and uh construct and destruction crews and police actions to destroy communities we have the list of just some of the largest evictions that have happened over the last year a little over a year sorry i have notes and um we know the funding is there too we know you're going through hard budget cuts but yeah on the way here i was i was driving between west avenue and dotten avenue on sabastopol road i saw two cop cars they weren't following anything they weren't doing anything and that's a regular thing when living in roseland you see cops everywhere and they're not doing anything except from eating donuts and using taxpayer money and we know that they're not serving the community or protecting anyone and we know we heard just today that they were honored that their purpose is to protect property rights and prevent neighborhood degeneration and i think we all know what that means because we kept keeping them in roseland where it happens to be you know the most poor and poc in the zone in the city so how long are you going to keep up the facade of pretending to care about the unhaven population i mean we kind of appreciate the facade because you keep throwing these tiny little breadcrumbs but it's clear from your actions that you actually the as a body i don't not talking about any individual like desires or beliefs but as a body you hate poor people and are actively working to destroy poor people not poverty but the poor and you need to stop that and we can tell thank you michael tatone followed by elizabeth nihlin use the microphone please no i'm gonna shout um because every time i come here i get the same request which is that people can't use the projector they can't get close so i respectfully request sorry i can't hear you would you use the microphone please i i respectfully request that myself and everybody in this audience be allowed to speak from the front elizabeth nihlin i respectfully request myself and anybody who would like to speak from the front elizabeth nihlin speak from the front yes elizabeth nihlin i am elizabeth nihlin i appreciate the young man's bravery to try to get what he wants i believe there's been about 10 000 generations of human beings on the planet and we are now facing extinction from corporate greed and i think the city of santa rosa is a corporation but anyway okay my son in berkeley was shot through the knee by a homeless vigilante that he thinks the berkeley police support yeah yeah yeah he's good he's good he's still walking he was only in the hospital like for one or two days so that's my beautiful son who was identified as a genius in the fifth grade and has a master's degree in hydrogeology from stanford a bachelor's degree in biology from berkeley he's 48 years old and he's one of the sweetest purse people you will ever meet and he will not come to the city because he was attacked by the santa rosa pd during a medical emergency a brain injury yeah that's what happened but let's get down to what's happening at the transit mall with our pay phones when we remodeled our transit mall a few years ago in the design there were four public telephones we now have zero and we do not have access to 911 service unless the downtown library is open the lobby is open where you can get in there to their telephone yes there's contempt in my voice you know i have contempt for america i have lived here since three days before i was born my mother is a socialist was a socialist from ontario canada yeah and believe me it would have been a very smart move to get out of this rotten country anyway thank you such a cheerful thing to be here and um i gotta have a whole minute left to pontificate let me think uh gee whiz what a nice crowd a lot of nice signs i made a sign that said santa rosa city council corporate lackeys you know i really feel that in my heart and okay so what would i do if i was going to help the homeless well i would get like a nice square mile track and i would put a little like spiral all the way around like from the center out i'd have a police station in the middle and maybe on a couple of the corner and then i would build these adorable little tiny houses for people that need them thank you i don't have much more to say you know um follow the money to see why these wars were not banned follow the money and then we will all understand yeah corporate greed and misery were connect to making humanitarian disasters in syria and yemen and what is happening in palestine and why are we why do we have 45 military bases surrounding iran thank you it was new question mark sir mayor i have my comment merlin davis that myself merlin davis everybody else who would like to have the freedom to speak from the front merlin davis point of order you got michael to tone off after 30 seconds because you chose to express yourself your clock is running sir i demand your clock is running myself and everybody who would like to have the freedom to speak from the front in this meeting i changed my mind this is not an emergency that is too impersonal that's like a fire that happens this is not an emergency stop declaring it one you're being hypocrites you're not treating it like an emergency this is a human rights catastrophe this is a persecution of the poor stop declaring an emergency we know what that's about it's about money and we know how you use the money it's not to help those without homes you need to spend less money you need to spend less money on law enforcement you need to spend less money on non-governmental agencies that get up in front and offer you excuses to go persecute keep the poor more on the record which is i guess why i'm on the microphone here fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you you're okay fuck you and jack isn't even here fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you thank you very that's very much that's plenty that's enough we're taking a we're going to take a dinner break myself and everyone in this audience so one second one second wait just gonna sit down here so that's it thank you okay john yeah all right we're gonna bring the meeting back to order we are at public comment on non-agenda matters mr. mayor the fact that there was a the uh here i convey is not reason to ban people from Mr. Mr. Tatone if you keep disrupting the meeting you're going to be being taken out of here in handcuffs i'm just giving you that warning now and i'm going to ask you to sit down and everyone else to speak it is time for public comment it's excuse me excuse me the um we were we had not yet completed the comment on consent items um nor have we had a vote so we're going to go back to that we're going to vote on the consent items we did complete the comment did we complete the comments yes we did there are any further questions on consent mr. rogers mr. mayor i demand i will move items 12.1 through items 12.6 and wait for the reading of the text second speech at the front if we so wish that passes with six eyes mr. tibbetz is absent at this time we'll move on to public comment on non-agenda items thomas ells may i speak public comment yet and everyone else you had your chance mr. tatone freedom to speak at the front if you keep disrupting the meeting are you going to keep disrupting the meeting i are you going to keep disrupting the meeting you get the front we used to speak at the front mr. ells it's your turn to speak oh i had a minute and 30 seconds off no you have no more time you disrupted it sit down mr. ells thought it was you thank you i'd like to address my comments to the well the extension of the existence of local emergency due to fires and to the extension of the proclamation local homeless emergency um this is a tale of two cities this is a tale of two cities it was the best of times this is the worst of times the city came out with open arms to help those people with from the fires and people with homeless emergency it's not exactly the same and i would say while housing is very much health care um it's entirely different how to address it we still call it the word triage we'd still use the word triage it's different than a medical triage shake someone who's bleeding or can't breathe and you're gonna address them first because you're gonna save that life we don't have that situation if one action helps literally hundreds of people with very little cost versus many actions which help only dozens of people with very significant costs and a torturous series of events in order to accomplish it these are two different things that you need to weigh which to do first that's the triage this is project management it's not the same exactly as as triage in a medical sense while housing is health care but you got to get the house you have to have something that covers that person so then you should probably pick the quickest most effective way to accomplish the greatest safety possible and that is what we did before which is some kind of safe parking some kind of things like these safe campaigns very important and i would recommend that and i know that the continuing care reorganization and these things are going to be beneficial they'll show benefits in the long in the long run and where you where your hearts are and coming out with helping people that that's going to be a benefit but it's still a long long way away that is a complete redesign even then anything comes out of it's just going to be an experiment it's a brand new process a brand new thing exactly how is that going to work so we don't really know but what we do know is we can solve and help the most the best with the least cost safe parking those kind of things thank you Bruce Pearson followed by Peter Stickney is Bruce Pearson here yes i'm up here please go ahead i demand that you allow myself and everyone else in this room the freedom to speak at the front if we so choose you're taking up this i'm fine speaking up here you're taking my time now good afternoon or good evening now mayor coursey and the council members and all present imagine you're homeless if you can it's starting to rain and it's getting towards dark but you have a tent until the city police threw it into a dumpster truck now you're wet and cold desperately searching for a hole to crawl in or let's to squeeze under you also have multiple health issues and you're 70 years old and a woman my plea is to arrest this inhumane cruelty towards our flesh and blood she says weeps now you see disposal personal property thank you Peter stickney followed by william maddie mr mayor i demand that you allow myself and yeah i heard i heard your demand okay to speak Peter stickney i demand that you allow myself hello uh here of coursey and the council i just want to start off thanking you for your service i know it takes long hours and uh and uh hopefully the rewards are worth it because i know the city appreciates your service i just want to bring forward a problem in our neighborhood that uh we would like to see resolved we have squatters on the private land behind us they're camped out in the grass and uh you know light fires and dispose of their human waste who knows how we feel that that's a safety hazard and uh and a health hazard the police have come out and asked them to leave sometimes they leave but then they always come back you know that i know this ties in with the previous topic here of having a place for them to go so i think that's the final solution to this but for right now we would like them to not be there they you know walk through our property sometimes to get to victoria drive where i live and uh you know so it's a certain feeling of not being safe necessarily i've uh taken some pictures and put them together and email them to to you all through the group email on the website so i'd appreciate it if you take a look at those and whatever i don't say here now you'll be able to read that but there's you know four main issues safety uh having the police enforce the laws i've personally gone around and posted no trespassing signs for the owner some of those get torn down or destroyed or bent up and uh now put them back up that was at the request of the owner of the property because he's a fire fireman and he's been busy this spring and uh anyway and just the health you know right now the field behind us would be beginning turning into a swamp it'll take more rain than we've just had but as soon as that is all that human waste will be out there floating around mosquitoes are breathing it and who knows what what that spreads that's the health problem you know part of the health problem and uh it's just the law enforcement i mean you do have uh have the police go in and clear out places you know where people have campers and all this stuff set up which i don't necessarily agree with but they need a place to go but they can't clear them out off of this off this private property they say they don't have any right all they can do is write a ticket and and those are just ignored by these people so i don't feel that the law is actually being enforced even though i appreciate the policemen who have come out occasionally when called but it's not an emergency so they don't always come out so again bottom line they need a place to go thank you thank you mr. sticky william matty can i ask a question about no william matty is he still here william matty john frohmeier mr. mayor i still haven't had my comment john frohmeier is he here i still haven't had my comment and i demand gale simons and everybody gale simons here wants to to speak from the front have the freedom to speak from the front like we used to before jacob beckman is jacob beckman here victoria yanes is victoria still here hello all right so uh i thought i was speaking on a different section but whatever here i am so uh i was here for a little bit of the budget cuts and i know i'm just talking to a wall and i know it doesn't matter but somebody has to talk right so um the whole budget cuts thing i mean we're just being squeezed and squeezed and squeezed all the money is getting squeezed out of the local community the extremely rich people are getting all the money they're getting their tax cuts they're getting their all their loopholes their offshore bank accounts y'all are probably some of them and uh that money is just getting sucked right out of the community and and you act like well this is just part of the cycle it's not just part of the cycle like capitalism is unraveling it is closing in on itself and you are just the you're just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic um and part of what you're doing is destroying people destroying people the the poor half of this country is going through something much worse than 2008 something much worse than the great depression the poor half of this country is being absolutely destroyed and you are managing it you're just sharpening your pencils and moving the paper around and oh well everybody's getting fucked um and and for how many times now the the sixth seventh eighth major eviction that you just oversaw it's it's it's an absolute human rights disaster that you are personally responsible for um so that's bad it needs to stop people camping on public land should not be uh bothered by the by these thugs that you have hired um in fact in the great depression there were little villages that grew up everywhere Hoovervilles right uh they weren't stopped people were poor they had nowhere to go there were Hoovervilles everywhere we're gonna get our coursey bills we're gonna get them um thank you victoria is victoria still here to speak from the front molly morgan miller i demand that you allow myself is molly here anyone who wants to including walley to speak from the front if we so design jeremy morney jeremy adrian lobby thank you and good evening i want to echo uh pat nicholson what were you thinking what were you thinking when you allowed the heat program to go into the rv park on friday we've had six evictions this is the sixth one and every time i've come here and i've said that was cruel that was horrible but there was something that happened on friday that was beyond beyond there was something about the way that people's property was taken and destroyed the way people were left in the dark with nothing as the rain began there was something about it that was not not even the usual level of cruelty right after we heard the judge at the ninth appellate in martin versus boise talk about just this thing saying that people have a right to their property right after the sonoma county human rights commission said there are severe human rights abuses in sonoma county what were you thinking you're thinking that it's just okay what because you have a program that's called h e a p and there's the word assistance in it that you can run over people that you don't have to care about what happens to them that you're not responsible in some way i heard in the budget discussion the public works guy saying well we we haven't been able to fix the potholes as much because we're really busy cleaning up after homeless camps and i've cleaned up after homeless camps it's a lot of work i understand that but when we've come here over and over again and said we don't have to have those kind of homeless camps we can have homeless camps where people clean up for themselves the way they do in every neighborhood we're still going out there with bulldozers well the rain is here winter's here we don't have any more time thank you thank you that's uh that's all the cards i have republic comment tonight we'll move on to item 14.1 you're done and item 14.1 report city council consideration to take formal position on november 6th 2018 ballot measures that could potentially have impact to the san aroza adria merton's communication and intergovernmental relations officer presenting here we're on another item now mr. else please mr. mayor i demand that you allow me and everyone else this man is disrupting this meeting we can't continue with him doing this we're taking the recess hold on just i'd like i'd like to join a club and beat you over the head with it well done all right bring this meeting back to order i'll reintroduce you want to reintroduce san report city council consideration to take formal position of november 6 2018 ballot measures that could potentially have impact to san aroza adria merton's presenting good evening mayor corcy and members of the council as you know the general election will be held throughout the state of california on november 6 2018 there are a number of statewide and local ballot measures with potential impact to san aroza council may consider taking a formal position of support for opposition or decide to take no action on any of the measures so staff have identified six statewide ballot propositions and one local ballot measure to be considered um the statewide ballot measures are proposition one two three five six and ten and local ballot measure um is measure m so proposition one would authorize bonds to fund specified housing assistance programs uh the proposition allows the state to sell four billion dollars in new general obligation bonds for various housing programs including affordable multifamily housing infrastructure programs home ownership programs and farm worker housing programs it also provides one billion dollars for home loan assistance to veterans proceeds from the bond sales would be awarded to program applicants such as local governments nonprofits and private developers through a competitive process administered by the state for san aroza this measure could provide needed affordable housing resources for our community's most vulnerable populations um if the san aroza housing recovery bond our local measure in was passed the local funding could be used as a local match to compete for these state resources uh staff recommends council support proposition one do so um yeah do you envision taking these as we go taking them at the end um actually what's the council's preference I would appreciate hearing from the representative of the legislative committee on the items just as a way of having input about them okay let's let's let mrs mergans go through her presentation all of them yeah okay all right so proposition two authorizes bonds to fund existing housing programs for individuals with mental illness uh this proposition allows the state to carry out the no place like home program as it is currently designed for background the no place like home program was created by the legislature in 2016 to build and rehabilitate housing for those with mental illnesses who are homeless are at risk of becoming homeless uh the program is designed to use certain funding from the state's mental health services act approved by the voters in 2004 uh however the program the no place like home program has been challenged in court opponents alleged that the program is inconsistent with the terms of the mental health services act and have asked the court to decide on two main issues one deciding whether using mental health services act dollars uh to pay for the no place like home program is consistent with what the voters wanted when they approved the mental health services act in 2004 and two deciding whether voters need to approve the no place like home bonds passage of proposition two would mean the state would no longer need court approval to carry out the no place like home program passage would mean approval uh passage would approve the use of mental health services act funds for the no place like home program which would mean the authorization of two two billion dollars in bonds to pay for the no place like home program for santa rosa proposition two could also provide needed affordable housing resources for santa rosa's most vulnerable populations um if the santa rosa housing recovery bond measure n was passed the local funding could be used as a local match to compete for these state resources as well uh for these reasons staff does recommend council support proposition two so proposition three authorizes bonds to fund projects for water supply and quality watershed fish wildlife water conveyance and groundwater sustainability storage uh this proposition allows the state to sell eight point nine billion dollars in new general obligation bonds for various water and environmental environmental projects under six categories watershed lands water supply fish and wildlife habitat water facility upgrades groundwater and flood protection the state departments may spend some of the funds to carry out the projects themselves carry out their own projects but most of the funds would be given as some grants to local governments indian tribes non-profit organizations and private water companies for specific project uses uh the proposition also changes how the state must spend some existing funding relating to related to greenhouse gases for santa rosa proposition this proposition provides opportunities for grant funding for water use efficiency groundwater and recycled water the proposition would also provide options for our partner the sonoma county water agency to to get funding for their projects uh staff does recommend council support proposition three proposition five changes the requirements for certain property owners to transfer their property tax base to replacement property this proposition amends the state constitution to expand the special rules that give property tax savings to eligible homeowners when they buy a different home eligible homeowners include those who are 55 who are severely or who are severely disabled or whose property has in has been impacted by a recent disaster or contamination the measure would allow eligible homeowners to transfer property tax base when they move to a different home anywhere within the state of california it removes the limits on how many times a homeowner can move and transfer taxable value and it allows the purchase of more expensive homes with some adjustment in existing taxable value but less than the new homes market value it also reduces taxes for newly purchased homes um so homes that are less expensive meaning if someone moved to a less expensive home the taxable value transferred from the existing home to the new home would be adjusted downward um the state's legislative analysis stated that the measure could have multiple effects on property tax revenue it is anticipated that in the first few years schools and local governments would each potentially lose over a hundred million dollars per year proposition five could impact santa rosa but at this time the fiscal dollar amount is very hard for us to quantify uh staff recommend council take no action on proposition five however council may discuss that decision proposition six eliminates certain road repair and transportation funding uh and requires certain vehicle fuel taxes and fees be approved by the electorate this proposition amends the state constitution constitution to require the legislator to get voter approval for newer increased taxes on the stale storage use or consumption of gasoline or fuel as well as pay for taxes to operate a vehicle on public highways the proposition would also eliminate fuel and vehicle taxes passed after january 1 2017 and up to the date that proposition six could take effect in december of 2018 proposition six would eliminate the increased fuel taxes and transportation improvement fees enacted by sp1 it is anticipated that in the current fiscal year this proposition would reduce sp1 tax revenues statewide by 2.4 billion dollars two years from now the revenue reduction would total approximately 5.1 billion annually the funding reductions would mainly affect highway and road maintenance and repair programs as well as transit programs here in santa rosa sp1 provides much needed transportation funding to repair our roads and maintain our city streets which have been backlogged due to years of insufficient funding with an estimated 3.9 annually from sp1 funding santa rosa will be able to rehabilitate rehabilitate failing pavement and enhance bicycle and pedestrian travel for santa rosa residents under sp1 city of santa rosa transit is projected to receive 900 000 annually in combined funding for operations and capital improvements which are crucial to maintaining service levels supporting the city's bus replacement program expanding the number of electric buses in the fleet and filling funding gaps that have been resulted from reductions in other state funding for our transit services a yes vote on proposition six would repeal the critical sp1 funding required to repair our city roads and maintain transit service levels for these reasons staff recommend council oppose proposition six proposition 10 expands local government's authority to enact rent control on residential properties this proposition would repeal the limits on local rent control laws set forth in the costa hawkins rental housing act for background under current law costa hawkins creates three key limitations rent control cannot apply to single family homes rent control cannot apply to any housing completed on or after february 1 1995 and rent control laws cannot place limits on what a landlord may charge a new tenant when first moving in if past cities and counties could have the ability to regulate rents for any housing to be clear the measure the measure does not make any changes to current local rent control laws rather cities and counties would then need to make take separate action to change their own local laws according to the state legislative analysis the impacts of this proposition would depend on how many communities pass new laws how many properties are covered and how much rents are limited the analysis also noted that the proposition would likely reduce state and local revenues in the long term with the largest effect being on property taxes staff recommend that council take no action on proposition 10 however council may discuss that decision and finally the local measure measure m sonoma county parks measure so this local measure proposes a one-eighth sales a one-eighth cent sales tax dedicated to parks within sonoma county including city operated parks which will generate 11.5 million dollars per year for 10 years if past two-thirds of the funds would go to county parks and one-third would go to cities throughout the county for park improvements this measure must pass with two-thirds voter approval and funds may only be utilized for parks they may not reduce existing funding for parks and recreation in santa rosa the funds provide additional support for projects at citywide neighbourhood and community parks recreational program support and file fuel fire fuel reduction projects it should be noted that it's unclear if the city would meet the maintenance of effort the maintenance of effort requirements to qualify for the entire annual tax allotment staff analysis of the measure shows that the city may be eligible to receive very little of the funding from the measure due to the city's structural deficit and projected staffing levels however city staff are currently working with the county to clarify that language and to determine what funding may be available to the city staff do recommend council support measure m i think one of the things that the city attorney and i were just discussing about about this measure is that even if it couldn't use be used for operational monies it is likely that we could advance a pretty solid argument that it could be used for capital projects so you know that this is the reason we're recommending supporting is because there is a great need on the capital investment in some of our parks as well as the operational requirements and and if i may i was just going to clarify on the maintenance of effort on requirement and as miss merton indicated we are trying to get more clarification from the county but the question came up earlier this evening so i'll just outline a maintenance of effort requires that we not spend less than the previous year unless there's a financial downturn which is defined as a the general fund declines by one percent or more or if there's other unexpected events and that's not defined if there's a financial downturn or an unexpected event then the city needs to spend no less than the lower of three fiscal years 15 16 16 17 or 17 18 as shown in the adopted budget so it will be challenging us for us to meet that that threshold on the operational side in any in any circumstance but but i believe we've had conversations and that there's a belief that we could advance the capital but it is still a complicated question open to interpretation and this body will not be it'll be there'll be a citizens oversight board that will probably be making these decisions about qualification and here's a summary of the staff recommendations thank you miss merton's um mr rogers do you want to uh help us out with what the i'm sorry the name of the body is escaping me at this point it's the uh mayors and council members legislative association what that group has uh has recommended or has has done so far on these measures uh yeah i i believe that these uh actions reflect what that group has done if it'd be helpful miss merton's did a great job but i have some supplemental information that i can provide to the group for making this these decisions sure let me let me find out if there are any specific questions first from the council i'm just going to ask if we could if you have questions on um the measure 10 if you could ask them now and i'll step out while you discuss it because i i i would i would have to recuse myself from any discussion on proposition 10 if there's no questions i'll just stay in the chamber questions on that i have comments later but i was wondering if as a process we might do this a little like we do consent items where we pull a few of them and then just go ahead and vote on the ones that we don't get pulled does that make sense that way we know what we're questioning and w