Welcome, thank you for joining us. We are thrilled to have Needy Doshi with us today, co-founder with Paybee. And you were gonna talk to us today, Needy, about auction strategies post COVID. But before we dive into that conversation, we wanna make sure that all of our viewers and listeners know who we are as well. Julia Patrick is here. Where else would she be on this money? Julia is the CEO of the American Nonprofit Academy. I'm Jarrett Ransom, Julia's personal nonprofit nerd, but I can be yours too, because I do like to remind all of you, there's plenty of this nerdiness to go around. I'm the CEO of the Raven Group, and Julia and I are both extremely honored to have the continued support and investment from our sponsors. You can see them on the screen here, but for those of you listening, thank you to Bloomerang American Nonprofit Academy, your part-time controller, non-profit nerd, fundraising academy, the non-profit atlas, non-profit thought leader, as well as staffing boutique. 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I think that whenever we get a founder or co-founder of something, that's really special because we get to get into the mind of somebody that's doing something really innovative. Talk to us about Pavey, because this is where we need to be, I think, no pun intended. Ta-da. Ta-da. Ta-da. Right, so Pavey started about five and a half years ago, and we started with a single mission that, hey, we wanted every donation to go through. So a lot of times we noticed that there was a donor, there was a charity, the donor loved the cause, and they said, oh, how can we help? And the charity said, go to our website and make a donation or send us a check. And the donor said, totally, I'm gonna do that when I get home. And then, well, life happens. And unintentionally, the opportunity is missed. So again, I've been on the board of nonprofits. I've been a volunteer for many of them.  The moment was right there. It should have happened and why didn't it? So that's the reason why we started Pavey. We wanted to make sure none of these opportunities get missed. So we started with a tagline of donation in the moment of inspiration. So whenever a donor is inspired, they should be able to take action no matter what. So we started with, we realized that, hey, people don't always have cash or check on them, but they always, always have their phone. So can we use the phone to help them make donations? So we started with QR codes on donation boxes and T-shirts and flyers. This is when QR codes were not sexy.  And we're like, no, there's a lot of value in it. So, and well, today everybody uses QR codes. They made them come back to talk about sexy, right? Like they definitely have made a comeback. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you started this, I love that you recognize that the passion connecting to immediacy, getting that donor response, getting them going through the phone. And then over time, I mean, you started this before the pandemic and then all of a sudden you've got a new business, a new wrench comes in and you've got to think about events. So talk to us about how that then focused, or I shouldn't say focused, but became a major piece of what Paby's doing. Quite a wrench, huh? Yes, totally.  Can you do tax receipts? Can you do accounting? And I want to do a bake sale and I want to do a walkathon. So we kept expanding our scenarios. Then it was, can I do tickets and auctions in a funded need and we were supporting entire events. And then with the pandemic coming, all our in-person events got canceled within like three days. Like every one of them and my co-founder and I, we got into depression for like three days. Oh my God, it's the end of the world. And you know, all that we built means nothing. And then we're like, man, this is really boring. I think a lot like both you ladies, like this is really boring. Let's build something, right? Let's give our charities a way of doing virtual donations, you know, whatever set up they are in. So we got to building, within six weeks we launched a virtual gala and tool set, right? So you could have a video, you could have a chat. They could bid and pledge it right there on the same screen. And then they could also finish their payments and then get a tax receipt. So that's what we started out. And within six weeks, we had our first event which had up pretty well. I mean, we had, I think about 250 people who joined and then that gave us the confidence. Oh, there's something in here. And then I think the biggest change with us came when Oakland Zoo, a lot of you might know about the zoo, they were on the verge of shutting down. And we approached them that, hey, what if you did a virtual event? Because again, they didn't have enough money to keep sustained their animals and everything they were gonna shut down. So they said, okay, let's do it. And within 10 days, this event was put together. They had 1600 people join. Typically at the event, they have 300 people, right? Based on the room size and capacity, they have 300 people join. This one had 1600 people join. And within 90 minutes, they raised half a million dollars. And they had a donor who said, I will match. If you can raise over 500K and he matched and they got a million dollars and they were all set for the year. So. Wow. It was amazing. That is an amazing story. Now, is that what we can all expect, right? Like, is that the magic, I don't know, pixie dust that happens? So I think what virtual has opened up is the ability for everybody to join, right? Suddenly, now it has democratized events.  No matter where you're joining from, you could be in another part of the world and you're still supporting the cause. And that's what matters the most, right? So yeah, if you have the relationship with your donors and no matter who it is, right? Even if they're donating $10, they're giving you their time, which I think is something charities are starting to recognize, right? The relationship is most important than the money they have. So given that all you've, you know, obviously been so receptive of yourselves as a company to new things and different things and changing things, what would you say is kind of the current situation right now with auction strategies? Because, wow, I mean, Jared and I have been in like a headspin situation seeing how many different things, to your point, got started and then, you know, some were better than others. What's it like now that we're in year three going into your three of this? Yeah, into three years. Again, we continue to see innovation, right? And creativity in events, which is what excites us the most, right? So to give you examples, again, all virtual events started off with a Zoom like an experience that, hey, show them a video and the executive director comes on board. And then very soon charities realized that, hey, this is virtual. And again, nobody really knows if you're live or not, which everybody here, we're live at the moment, but you can never say it, right? It could be a video recording that you're playing. And that gave them the ability to edit, to reach out to wider talent, record content, trim it, fit it into the time period, because again, virtual events, time span is a lot lower than in-person events. And in-person events, you have the ability that, hey, somebody's walking off the stage and then now they're handing the mic and then they're coming on. Virtual, you don't, you have to be go, go, go, right? You have a good run of show and you put up a fantastic event which is condensed, which is concise and people enjoy watching, right? So there was virtual and we'll talk, I guess, in a moment about all the creativity we're seeing, but from virtual, then it went to hybrid, right? Because charities realized that, hey, we don't want to lose out on our virtual audience who we built a relationship with. So this year, I'd say year three, charities are either choosing those who had the virtual experience and the bug with them and they loved it. They want to hold on to that, right? So it's hybrid and a lot of charities still going back to in-person. They want to get back to partying and get people together and meet and dress up and all that, but we're seeing a combination of both. It's either in-person or hybrid, let's say at this point. You know, speaking of that in-person, that is definitely something that is coming back and I served as an emcee for a concert, a benefit concert and it had just what you're talking about, the live plus the virtual, right? And I feel like that's here to stay. And I don't know in what capacity. I don't know if maybe at one point we'll have, you know, where everything is in-person and then there's a separate virtual or maybe that's recorded and then shared. Like, I don't know, but do you think that this tandem hybrid, whatever people want to call it, do you think that's here to stay or do you think at one point we'll separate as we've had this evolution of, you know, what you just described? Like, do you think that will ever separate?  Okay. You can get more people at your event against strength in numbers, right? The more people you can get, the more energy you build, the more you raise, people get influenced by the people donating, right? That, hey, yeah, we're in this together. We have a goal that we are marching towards and everybody participating, right, all together. I think what really helps is having the right setup. So again, at pay-we-at-least, it's very important to us to make sure that each donor feels like the event is catered to them and to their setup.  Again, that's not right, right? They should feel like, hey, this event was produced for me for my environment and they should enjoy watching it.  So we've built technology to give that kind of experience to donors sitting at home as well. So they have a good time too. And well, at the end of it, the charities are benefiting from the best of both worlds. So one of the things you talked about with Julie and I before we actually opened the digital doors was about efficiency with technology. Would you be willing to dive deep into that sexy subject? Because I do think there's so much to talk about that, but you, your co-founder and the entire PABY team really sees this as a value add for the charities.  Sure. So just to step back a moment, right? My education and background is in HCI, which is human computer interfacing. So how can humans best use technology to assist them, right? So how can we make things really, really easy for users? Right? And again, that's one of the big things that I bring to this company. So at PABY, for us at every instance, we're thinking about what is the environment? What is the donor doing at this time? And how can technology be of further assistance? So to give you an example, right? So our system generates paddles. I don't know if this is also on video as well, but our system generates paddles via a PDF with the name of the guest on it, with any that they are on, right? And the name of the event, their logo. And then at the end of the event, it also has a QR code that they can use for self-checkout. So they never have to wait in lines, right? So this is something we generate. We started with these.  Then they'll go participate in silent auction and by the time they have to get to their table, they have lost them and they don't know which table they need to get to either, right? And volunteers are frantically running around trying to find the paddles. So like, okay, that is a problem. How can you solve that? So then we keep up with this other format, which is a little tent card, right? This has the name of the guest as well. It has the table, it has the paddle, it has the numbers so they can participate in silent auction. It can go in their jacket pocket or in their purse. And then when they have to sit down, like, oh, I have to get to table number one. And then they get there and the paddles can be stacked on the table. On the table. Then donors can get to the top and start participating and go by the emotion and the drive and pledge more. So this is just an example of, again, it's a simple solution, but thinking about what is the context and why is this problem happening? How can we make that more efficient? Okay, I've got a witness. I'm on the rubber chicken circuit, man. I go to a lot of events have, of course not during the pandemic. That solution right then and there would have made my life as a participant so much easier. Because when you do have the paddle and all that stuff and there is a silent auction, it's hard to be participating with that because of all the stuff that you've got. And if you're in a ball gown or high heels and there's a crush of people, yeah. I love that. Very smart. Very, very smart. I have not seen that being used. So super. That can also go in the program. It's small enough. Like you said, it can go in a jacket pocket. It can go in your purse. So it seems so novice. What a simple solution, but what an amazing solution that finally has hit the stage. I love it. It's so needed. One of the things we've talked about, Julia, is exactly what Nitty had just shared. It's really that focus on relationship, right? That return on relationship. And whether you have this in person or you have this with that virtual hybrid, making this event connect with your audience, regardless of location, is really what hits the mark. And where we've seen the greatest success from so many of our guests to come on and talk about that. Let's talk about what the future holds. Like are there new approaches besides the amazing paddle that you just shared in the table tin to the, you know, like this is the seat. I think the only way to make that better, Nitty, would be on the inside of that card. You have the layout of the room. I love that idea. Right, like you have it. Yeah, you have the small schematics of like, okay, here's where the tables are. And also a lot of charities now at events, they'll have like little booths, right? Like this is where the wine stall is and you can get wine here and this is where the raffles are. Or if you want to get merchandise, I love your idea of the map. Okay, I don't feel that anymore. Just the other day, I started a children's book with your part-time controller and now I'm helping you here. But let's do dive deep into the future because event season, believe it or not folks, right around the corner. So, okay, I'm gonna have two approaches to this, right? So charities who started virtual, and especially the ones who was smaller saw a lot of benefit in continuing virtual, right? Because the costs are a lot lower. They don't have to spend on the room and food and they can just focus on content and continuing the relationships with their donors, like again, making phone calls, right?  Because again, getting donors to show up is the hardest part of any event, right? Like that's it. Everything else can be handled with technology, with planning, preparation, everything, but getting people to come show up is the hardest thing. So a lot of charities have continued to stay in the virtual setup and focusing on relationships and they're seeing amazing creativity right over there. So we are seeing charities do celebrity dictionary. They'll have a celebrity come and draw, right? And everybody's trying to guess, you know what I'm saying, right? We had one charity which did a whole drag queen makeup competition. So they had 12 different participants who they sent makeup kits to. Everybody was on stage and they're all doing makeup, right, live. And then they would have like a singing competition and then they would be lip-syncing and then people would vote with a dollar. So they would make a pledge to vote. And the more you wanna support them, the more you pledge and the charity is obviously ready. Money, money, money, yeah, love that. And it was just so much of fun and the crowd was so engaged. So they did an awesome job, right? Another team, which similarly they had music bands. So they had different bands coming in and they were performing and the parents were supporting and that was amazing too. A lot of our PTAs do movie nights, right? So a way to bring the entire family together, you know, on Friday nights, everybody's watching movie. And then there is a donate button on the side if you'd like to support them, right? Again, ways of continuing to keep up the relationship even outside events, silent auction, running silent auction every quarter. It just doesn't have to be connected to an event. Just run a one-off silent auction, you know? If folks are donating experiences in silent auction, amazingly well. Like the zoo, for example, they had have a lunch with the baby zebra, right? And bring 15 of your guests and do that. It did amazingly well, feed the baby monkey, right? So in the virtual slash in person, those things are doing really, really well. I think those experiences is still really the top one. You know, like there's so many things that people can purchase and do on their own, but there's often experience opportunities that are once in a lifetime that the charities are truly instrumental in making that happen. I love your examples. I love the makeup.  One of the things I love, and I know you shared with us earlier before we went live, is that you too have children. I'm a really, really big needy on sharing philanthropy or modeling philanthropy with our children. How have you seen this virtual space connect, as you said, with the entire family unit and beyond generations? So at events now, we actually have whole families joining. We have one education institution out of the Bay Area and their Gala has now changed its format to include the whole family, right? So now we have a watch party mode, which basically means you could put up an event on TV and then everybody else could be chatting and bidding and pledging on their own devices, right? And then they could close their donations as well on their devices. So this brings the whole family together, right? And we actually have auctioneers who say that, hey, kids go to a different room and participate so you can bid and pledge on your own without having your parents watch on you. The zoo, again, to give you an example, my son sat and he had never been to a zoo. He's a pandemic baby, right? Well, he started, he was a year old when pandemic started. The first time he saw the zoo was on a baby event, right? He saw the whole event was at the zoo and in the background, you could see flamingos and you could see elephants and giraffes. He saw that and then when it was his birthday, like I wanna go to the zoo, right? That's amazing. Pretty early on, that kind of becomes a part of it. He watches kids who are less fortunate and he's like, well, what does this organization do? Right? And then I'm telling him, hey, getting them food or getting them water. I think it sets some level of empathy. I don't know how much, he's too little, but still like, right? Just being lucky for what he has. Yeah. One of the things we've talked about in the nonprofit sector is that our donors are aging out. And so it's so critical to bring in a new wave of donors, a new wave of generations. So I do really think silver lining, you know, the pandemic, plural pandemics, but the global health pandemic and really engaging now as you just spoke to the entire family unit is kind of a blessing in disguise because we now have demonstrated and modeled philanthropy, civic engagement beyond the ballroom. Hashtag beyond the ballroom, right? Right. So we're really looking at that. This has been amazing and I'm sad to look at the clock and know that our time is winding down. What's next for Paby? Like what is next on the horizon? What are you looking forward to, you and your team and share with us about that? Yeah, so we feel this is the first time there's been true innovation in this industry, right? In the charity space. If you look at Gallas, there's never been so much change and nothing could have pushed this change apart from the pandemic, right? Pandemic could really, really put us in the corner and then we had to think of creative ways. But this has opened up events in a way where again, it's just, I think it's just getting started with everything that we are seeing in our charity. Like we think great pride and well joy in telling charities that, hey, if you have a creative idea, if you have a unique idea and if you need help executing, reach out to us like we will brainstorm and we'll build technology if you don't have it but we'll make it happen for you, right? So I am super pumped about what's coming and maybe when we meet in a year I'll have a hundred different ideas to share with you. I hope I do. I cannot wait. Yeah, I've said that too. Our sector has long overdue for this shakeup. We have done so many things, you know, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat and we're overdue for that disruption and innovation and it continues. So talking to you about this, I am super excited, stoked for the event season. Cannot wait for the flood of invitations to come in and the ability to really see what so many leaders have done, you know, when we had to pivot. I know that's not the year of 22 or the word of 22 but we're still doing it. Agree. You know, we really are. And I think it's really important to hear from people like you who, you know, were pivoting themselves. I mean, as a new company and looking at technology and then expanding how it could work with us and how we could work with it has been really remarkable. So I can't wait to see how you navigate this post COVID. I mean, I know we're still in COVID, we're still dealing with it. But as we mentally and physically start to open up to looking at this, it's really been interesting, Midi, to hear your comments and looking at this forward life where we are gonna have virtual events. And I also really appreciate you saying, you know, you can have things in between that you don't just have to wait for that once a year gala and put all your eggs in that basket. I think that's super powerful. And that's a great message for us to hear so that we can be a little bit more creative but have more sustainable revenue. So very, very interesting. Here's your information, paybee.io, check them out. You've got a lot of really interesting ideas and points on the website. It's a great site. And so I would expect nothing less from a tech company, of course. But yeah, been really, really fun. I think we need to, you know, get Midi back on as we've gone through this first kind of reopening of the market to see what has happened, what's working and what people are going to be looking at. Cause this conversation, yeah, the conversation is not over. I mean, this is, we're moving forward with understanding how technology is involved in our events. Far more than just, oh, the microphone needs to be better.  This whole fill tech industry, philanthropy technology is fascinating to me. And I do, you know, to what you were saying earlier, you know, I feel like finally we're starting to embrace new technology. Finally, we're starting to say, okay, yes, let's consider something new. So we definitely need to have you back on. Would love to have a stronger presence with paybee as we move forward throughout the year and truly into our event season. So thank you for your time. Thank you for having me. This was a lot of fun. It's been great. Hey, everybody, just to remind you, I'm Julia Patrick, CEO of American Nonprofit Academy, been joined today by the nonprofit nerd herself, Jared Ransom, CEO of the Raven Group. We wanna make sure that we thank all of our presenting sponsors without them. We would not be here. 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It sounds like you've been traumatized I would definitely say that you're a victim He actually unironically just said imagine if the roles were reversed Excuse me as if trans people aren't dead named and misgendered all the time on this platform The lack of self-awareness from some of these conservatives is astounding honestly But wait because Elon Musk responded saying repeated targeted harassment against any account will cause the harassing accounts to receive at minimum Temporary suspensions the word sis or cisgender are considered slurs on this platform. I'm sorry, but What? So you mean to tell me that mr. Free speech himself is saying you will literally be banned from his platform if you use Descriptive words to objectively identify someone who isn't trans Really, that's all it takes Sis for those of you who don't know literally just means not trans in the same way that we say straight instead of not gay We say sis instead of trans if you're literally bothered by descriptive language then Congratulations, you are the biggest snowflake in the world But keep in mind that on Elon Musk's Twitter cisgender is a slur Meanwhile dead naming and misgendering trans people is a okay because this LGBTQ nation reports Twitter's policy used to state We prohibit targeting others with repeated slurs tropes or other content that intends to degrade or reinforce negative or harmful Stereotypes about a protected category. This includes targeted misgendering or dead naming of transgender individuals on April 8th That final line was removed. Just imagine if the roles were reversed. They said Unbelievable but don't you worry because this isn't an attempt to stifle freedom of speech Contrary to popular belief because James responded on Twitter saying to those who have asked this is not restricting free speech I did not request nor did Elon agree to suspend accounts for using the term cis He is talking about repeated targeted harassment What this does is restore parody and common sense and of course Elon Musk responded to that by saying yes As if none of us noticed him updating Twitter's policies to allow transphobic harassment Furthermore, he just tweeted about the great conversation He had about Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi Which is pretty interesting considering the fact that Modi has many authoritarian tendencies and he even suppresses free speech Which Elon Musk claims is very important to him and that includes the free speech of his critics And he even pressured Elon Musk to censor criticisms of him on Twitter and Elon Musk complied But don't you worry Elon Musk cares deeply about freedom of speech It is just ridiculous how these people will say one thing do something completely different and then pretend as if we all didn't just see them Be openly hypocritical Now, of course JK Rowling tweeted about this from her castle on Turf Island Justifying Musk's decision saying Cis is ideological language signifying belief in the unfalsifiable concept of gender identity You have a perfect right to believe in unprovable Essences that may or may not match the sexed body But the rest of us have a right to disagree and refuse to adopt your jargon and Elon Musk responded to that saying exactly It's honestly hilarious how fragile these people are they couldn't survive a day being trans if they were trans I mean imagine getting this bent out of shape because somebody used a descriptive word I just I can't imagine it like imagine if somebody said hey Mike You have dark brown hair and I responded by saying how dare you the color of my hair isn't dark brown It's not blonde.  They've got a complaint They've got a wine because they want you all to know that they're the victims and they're triggered Yeah, now I can't not point out how badly this backfired because this backfired Badly so almost immediately after Elon Musk announced this new policy guess what happened Well, of course cisgender started trending on the platform with thousands and thousands of people either making fun of Elon Musk Or calling him cisgender and this happened immediately after he made this announcement because people Wanted to challenge this policy to see if it was actually as ridiculous as he's saying and as somebody who participated I have not yet been banned but Twitter cisgender owner is I guess learning about the Streisand effect in real time but on a serious note gauge chimed in with a crucial point saying using the word cisgender is now a slur and might warrant suspension But repeated calls for genocide of trans people from countless larger counts are okay And that is a very important point hate speech against trans people has been absolutely Genocidal and downright Nazi-esque in many instances since Elon Musk removed those protections for trans people But what does this cis fuckface do? He introduces a new policy to insulate transphobic people from perceived bigotry and As of late Elon Musk really has gone mask off when it comes to trans issues And he's just gone full-blown fascist even calling for doctors who provide gender-forming care for trans youth to be jailed Now I think this stems from a grudge that he's holding against his own daughter Who came out as trans and wants nothing to do with Elon Musk as LGBTQ nation explains Musk has amped up his public disdain of all things trans since his transgender daughter 18 at the time Applied for a legal name change in 2022 She cited the reason for the formal request as gender identity in the fact that I no longer live with or wish to be related to my Biological father in any way shape or form Musk's outburst came a year to the day news of his daughter's name change request broke So it's hard to fathom why someone like Elon Musk who has all the money and influence in the world would be so obsessed With trans people but I take it that his daughter being trans Probably has something to do with it and when regular parents reject LGBTQ plus children, that's extremely damaging Psychologically and materially some of them get kicked out from their homes But when a billionaire who controls a massive communication utility like Twitter Goes anti-trans and rejects his child. He can do even more damage at the macro level than the average bigot So it kind of seems like all of these new policy changes is some twisted attempt to get back at his daughter But we can't prove this right? This is all just speculation either way It's immature and it's sickening and Elon Musk truly is a bad person And I hope that an actual alternative to Twitter emerges soon Because this platform really just isn't a safe place for trans people or its allies But there's another element to the story that I want to explore and that is Musk's Uninformed lies about the person who coined the term so he also tweeted the contemptible creep that manufactured the term sis Has serious problems ignore him now Steve Monticelli responded to that saying Beyond disturbing that Elon Musk is promoting a false narrative about who coined the term sis gender But then again, it's entirely unsurprising that his transphobia has overwritten his capacity for differentiating truth and fiction This person is not the originator of the term and Steve is correct the person who actually coined the term is Dana de Fosse and she wrote an op-ed that was published by the huff post back in February Where she explained the origins of this word that she coined back in 1994 and also explained Why it's not meant to be offensive despite the fact that so many cisgender people take it as a slur She writes it began innocently enough. I was in graduate school and was writing a paper on the health of trans adolescents I put a post on all thought transgender to ask for views on transphobia and inclusion on the campus of the University of Minnesota I was struggling because there did not seem to be a way to describe people who were not transgender Without inescapably couching them in normalcy and making transgender identity automatically the other I knew that in chemistry molecules with atoms grouped on the same side are labeled with the Latin prefix sis Well molecules with atoms grouped on the opposite sides are referred to as trans so sis gender Although I've not yet experienced personal attacks for being associated with its creation It is painful when people implied was intended to hurt others I never believed that adding the word to the lexicon caused problems It only revealed them whatever the fate of the word I feel compelled to speak out against the idea that it is hateful It saddens me to hear that people feel harmed by the word cisgender is the creation of the word to blame No cisgender is just a straw man It is easier to attack a word than to address the reasons people feel intimidated by discussions of gender identity The word is a threat because it linguistically separates biological sex from socially constructed categories of woman and man that gender is a social construction undermines heteronormativity critical to defending patriarchal sex roles and procreation It is not surprising that those who have garnered dominance and privilege from traditional gender roles feel threatened and compelled to lash out These ideas are not new but the word cisgender repackages them in a way that is more potent and visceral Yeah So this is a classic case of those at the tippy top of the social hierarchy feeling oppressed that others are getting equal rights right nobody's usurping anybody trans people are asking for equality and Bigots who are denying them equality think that them getting equal rights and equal treatment is them being oppressed It's a tale as old as time, but I wish that I could read you more from that article, but it's very very long It's a really thoughtful piece. I'll link to that down below if you want to read the full thing But what she says here perfectly explains in my opinion the backlash words like cisgender prevent bigots from other Rising people who they've already deemed abnormal and the word cis Linguistically makes all people regardless of gender identity Normal and that matters because being trans is normal It's been documented in our species since the dawn of time So there's no reason why the language should inadvertently suggest that a certain portion of humans are abnormal just because They have a gender identity that isn't as common as the rest of the species The language constantly changes and she even mentioned that some LGBTQ plus people aren't even really satisfied with terms like cis and trans Because because it doesn't adequately account for the people that don't fall Within the gender binary and currently trans is sort of an umbrella term that also encompasses non-binary people too But it's possible that that language evolves with time as well So non-binary people are also accounted for in the language that we use but for right now Cisgender is not a slur, but because transphobes like Elon Musk insist that it is a slur Well, people are going to go out of their way to remind him that he is cisgender because that's just what the internet does So in closing Elon Musk is cisgender.  So we're not here all day


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Say, for example, an experimentalist going down a slide. The slide is a pretty steep slide with an angle from the ground to theta of 35 degrees. Our intrepid experimentalist weighs 60 kilograms. What is the net force on the experimentalist sliding down the slide? Firstly, we'll draw a diagram of the situation. Now, the slide is pretty smooth, so we're going to neglect friction to get a rough idea of the net force a person will experience. We'll introduce friction in the next video. So we know that from a stationary start, the experimentalist will slide down the slide. So we can already infer that the net force will point down the slide. But how? Well, let's consider the forces at work. On Earth, we have gravity, which is always points directly downwards. But there's also a normal force from the slide pointing perpendicularly to the slide surface. We know this because the experiment is hopefully not breaking the slide. So how can we work out the net force? Well, let's look at our gravitational force as a vector, which can be broken up into perpendicular components, or at right angles to each other. A common choice of breaking vectors up is using vertical and horizontal axes, although in this example, we won't use these axes specifically. So breaking vectors up essentially means that we can split vectors into two smaller vectors at right angles, which we added together to create the original vector. The net forces on the experimentalists cannot be neatly summed in the same direction, as they're acting at different angles. So let's break up the gravitational force into a component along the ramp and a component perpendicular to the ramp. Let's use our intuition here. There is no motion or acceleration perpendicular to the ramp, as we've assumed that the experimentalist stays on the slide surface. So we know that the normal force from the slide cancels out the component of gravity parallel to this normal force, which is perpendicular to the slide surface. This means that the net force in the experimentalist is entirely the component of gravity perpendicular to the normal force, which is parallel to the slide surface. To work out what force this is, we can use geometry and trigonometry. As we've already shown, our gravity force vector can be broken into a triangular geometry based on the angle to the ground of the slide. Now if we look at the location of our force, we can see that the angle to the slide surface is 35 degrees from the horizontal. Now the angle of the slide and the angle of the normal force together make up a 90 degree angle. And similarly, the horizontal and vertical components will also make up a 90 degree angle. So we can see that the angle at the top of our triangle is also equal to 35 degrees. Now, if we want to find the side of the triangle that is perpendicular to the normal force, we need to use trigonometry. So if you remember Sokotoa, we label each of the three sides of the triangle and we find that we want the side of the triangle that is opposite to the angle. The side of the triangle that we already know is the hypotenuse, which is Fg. So we have that sine of 35 degrees is equal to our net force divided by our gravitational force. We know that the gravitational force Fg is equal to mass times acceleration due to gravity. So if we plug in all of our values and rearrange our equation, we find that the net force is equal to mg times sine of 35 degrees. And this is equal to 337 Newtons and we have our answer. Now if we wanted to find the acceleration of the experimentalist, we know that the acceleration is equal to force divided by mass. So we plug in 337 Newtons divided by 60 kilograms and that gives us 5.6 meters per second squared.


Next question is from Issa Big-Montein. Are there any good exercises? You guys are the same. Yeah, I can see that. Or your shoulders.  Yeah. Are there any good exercises for your shoulders besides pressing motions? You know one of my favorite compound lifts is for the shoulders, that's not a press. Any kind of an upright row or a high pull. I, and I know a lot of people like, ah, I hate that, it's not good for my shoulder. If you have the mobility and the strength, they're totally safe. If you don't, then of course, like any exercise, get the mobility and strength so you can do them properly. But upright rows and heavy high pulls, they develop my shoulders like presses do. I mean, they literally build my shoulders out just like a heavy press would. I would put them up there with those, you know, with presses. So I'm going to go a different direction with this question. And this one's close to me because I've shared the story on the podcast. If you've listened for a long time, I talked about one of the first, you know, body critiques I ever got was from a female bodybuilder when I was 20 years old. And she told me I had weak shoulders. And so that became like a massive focus for me. And I would, I like to think that it's one of my strengths now as a competitor was better. I agree. Your shoulders, especially when you competed were crazy. And I'll tell you one of the, the biggest game changers for my shoulders was actually just getting really good at working the rear delt. The rear delt is such an overlooked part of the shoulder. Now it's a small part of the shoulder. So you think like, oh my God, well if you want big shoulders, that's silly. A shoulder press will always be better than a rear delt fly. Yeah, overall, right? Like nothing, a press is, I'm not arguing that a press isn't one of the best movements for the overall development of a shoulder. But most humans, most people, especially people that work out and exercise, do lots of pressing movements. So you do bench press, you do overhead press, you do a lot of these things that already kind of develop the front of the shoulder. And the rear delt is one of the most neglected muscles that I see on people. And so just, and not only is it neglected because people just don't even train it, but then even the ones that train it typically don't train it correctly or have a really hard time getting it to fire. They let their back take over the movement or they use momentum along. It's like a rhomboid lateral. So if you learn to get really good at using the rear delts and you start, and I went on a kick for probably a good year or two of starting all my shoulder workouts or shoulder exercises with rear delt movements first so I could get really good at. And that development in the rear delt just brings this beautiful spade look to your shoulder and I think compliments the overall training of the shoulder. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I don't wanna add to that a bit. In being that it's setting you up for better optimal posture, which then allows more free range of motion for your entire shoulder and your shoulder joint. Now to add on to that too, we do have muscles responsible for stabilizing your shoulder in rotation, which is something that people don't really consider a lot too, which can be trained and developed as well, which also will give you a round or more developed looking shoulder in general and will avoid those inevitable plateaus where you get into shoulder impingement issues and things preventing you from progressing, which is something too, if you start considering that now, we're thinking more long term, we can keep pressing further and getting further development out of the entire muscle if we set it up correctly. This is why the suspension trainer, W's, have become one of my favorite shoulder movements. I have done them more in the last couple of years and I have previously done ever because of that exact reason. The benefits it does for the posture, the rotator cuff that attacks the rear delt that it attacks, it's one of my favorite ways to kind of prime the shoulders before I go into my shoulder workout. If you're not using a suspension trainer and doing W's, there's a great, great movement for your point you're making. No, shoulder function is such a good point because it is a quite complex joint. It's not just the human most complex ones. Yeah, there's the scapula that's moving and we evolved with these very complex shoulder joints because we throw with accuracy very well. It's one of the reasons why we became the apex predator, right? But you know, back to the rear delt from an aesthetic standpoint, people think the side delt is what gives you the round shoulder look. It's not, it's the rear delt.  Now, I was lucky enough as a kid to read an article that was written about Serge Nubret. He was a French bodybuilder. He was in Pumping Iron. He was the black dude that looked super aesthetic and people even to this day say he's one of the most aesthetic bodybuilders of all time and he had this super round looking shoulder. I remember reading this article about him doing all these rear flies and I was very lucky at a young age to say, okay, let me focus on this exercise. And he did, I used to have very bony shoulders and my shoulders became a great body part because I focused so much on the rear delt. Now, here's a tip when you're doing laterals of all types especially to the side and then of course rear flies. If you really want, this is bodybuilding now. We're not talking functions. This is more of a bodybuilding aesthetics thing. If you really want to isolate those muscles you have to disengage or lock your scapula. Okay, so if I'm doing a rear fly and I engage my scapula now it's becoming more of a row but if I lock them in position and just focus on the humerus moving now I'm isolating those muscles. Same thing with laterals. You ever see people do laterals where it looks like kind of this upright shrug or whatever? If you can kind of lock your scapula in position and focus on just the part of the delt that moves the humerus then you're gonna isolate those muscles a little more. So the simple cue, another YouTube idea for you Doug, the simple cue for that that has made the biggest difference with coaching for me with that is to fly out and not fly back. So the tendency that we have when we do a reverse fly is to be, you know, whether you're bent over or on a machine is to fly back to Sal's point, right? And you want to keep it in a locked position you think about flying out versus flying back. Yeah, great cue. That cue is very simple and basic but it really helps people understand what you're trying to say by locking the shoulder girdle in a position or scapula in a position. And you use very lightweight. Very lightweight. Especially at the beginning. And then the other movement that I think is awesome for this I was actually just showing Doug was and became one of my favorite movements is the free motion bent over reverse fly. And why I like that, I start with really lightweight is you've got constant tension on the rear delt. And you have the cable over here, right? You're pulling away. Yes, you're pulling it through your body. And so through and across your body as you're bent over. It encourages that. It does. It's a good way to somebody who's having a hard time like feeling in the rear delt and teaching it. It's a good teaching movement. So then, because just like we've talked about in the last few questions, like once you get really good at feeling your rear delt and you know how to flex it and activate it, now I can take like upright rows and I can take all these other big compound movements where I can move a lot more weight and I can think about engaging my rear delts and then you really blow them up. So I know there's coaches and trainers listening right now and are probably hearing me talk about reverse flies and going like this more on. That's not an exercise that's gonna build a lot of your rear delts. Yeah, not initially.  Once you can fire them really well, then you can take some of those big heavy loaded compound movements, even presses and learn to engage the rear delt more.


How are those farmers farming sustainably more so preserving the soils in which they're farming in? Yes, so we do run we run programs nationally, so but in the Western Cape we have a long-standing initiative with the wine industry Welcome to the private property farming podcast My name is Mbali Nwokor your host every Tuesdays and Thursdays right here on the private property channel Thank you so much for joining us Wherever you're watching us that could be Facebook Instagram live YouTube or Twitter Keep following us on our social media pages because the podcast is right here for you We discuss all topics related to agriculture whether you're a farmer a professional in the agricultural industry Or just someone who just wants to hear about what farmers doing what this industry about is about I definitely know that the farming podcast is where you need to be Today's topic is all about soil health and regenerative agriculture quite interesting terms and They've been thrown around of late obviously with the words or terms such as climate change as well Sustainable farming and we're going to unpack some of these terms today with Shelly Fuller who is the program manager for WWF South Africa She's going to be joining us in a few seconds And she'll be explaining her role and what her organization does and we obviously going to impact tonight's topic with regards to soil health and regenerative Agriculture if you have any questions for our guests this evening please feel free to ask and we will respond accordingly with regards to your needs continue to like share and Tweet this podcast episode And let's get right into it and speak to Shelly. Thank you Shelly for joining us. How are you doing? Thanks, Mabali for having me Great great. So WWF what I know about it is a cute little panda as its logo Tell us about the organization and what does it do? So WWF is not the wrestling Federation, but yes, it's the worldwide fun for nature and Although our icon is a cute fluffy panda bear We are basically involved in over a hundred countries Trying to conserve nature and create a future where people and nature can thrive So in South Africa that is about conserving a variety of different species Not only the iconic rhinos and elephants, but also natural habitats that appears between Agricultural areas and so that's where I come in I run a program within our sustainable agriculture Portfolio and we work with fruit and wine farms in the Western Cape and the fruit farms, obviously Nationally and we work with these farmers because they're the stewards of the land, you know, they're the ones that are in charge of the Resources like the soil and the clean air and the and the clean water so that's really what we do we try and work with them and Recognize these farmers that are really doing playing their part to mitigate climate change and to make nature Still be around for future generations Yeah, so you're saying you're working with fruit and wine farmers down in the Eastern Cape and those are long-term crops How are those farmers farming sustainably more so preserving the soils in which they're farming in? Yes, so we do run we run programs Nationally so but in the Western Cape we have a long-standing initiative with the wine industry So that's the conservation champions program here on my emblem with the Cape sugarbird and the protea and But of course these farms they're not only producing They're not only having vineyards and producing grapes for wine. They also have fruit and annual crops and so what they do in terms of their practices needs to be Adopted across all of their different crop types and in terms of regenerative agriculture It's a it's a big word. It's it's quite a technical topic But basically it means you're restoring the soil particularly you're restoring the land You're putting back in more than you're using for your production And that's really the trend that we we're encouraging It's it's wonderful to see it's been adopted globally and the value of a healthy soil in terms of increasing your yield and Therefore your businesses, but also in terms of Returning the function back to the soil because without soil we will never have the food on our plates And we won't have a lot of the services that a healthy soil provides if you think of of water filtration of Absorbing the water in in the soil. It's a healthy structural soil Is the foundation of our survival really? Yeah, you mentioned When we're farming and so we have to put a lot more back in than we take out So what are the some of the elements or components required to make soil healthy, you know, typically we would think of Using compost, you know from a from a household version You put eggs shells you put banana peels any type of waste from fruits and vegetables Let it decompose for a couple of days or couple of weeks and then from that you can put back into the soil How do farmers work in this way putting more back into the soil, especially at commercial level? Yeah, well I gone other days where it was thought that kind of a bear Barren soil was a clean soil and the way to farm. I'm very grateful that, you know We've seen the use the adoption of cover crops So as soon as you start covering the soil again, you are helping to return some of those functions back So a bear barren soil will just be at risk for erosion and so some of the aspects are to try and Bring back that organic matter so that humus that compost like you mentioned So starting off by sowing cover crops a variety of different annual species and then Really actively actively returning the soil carbon and the organic matter back in to the soil And by doing that you actually obviously returning the nutrients and the the life back to the soil Which means that you you don't need those artificial fertilizers to get the same nutrients for your crops It takes some time to to return the life back to the soil after we've been, you know taking so much out and An a sterile soil is is obviously a long-term journey to return it back to something that's living But yes, so it's adding the humus back in It's adding the nitrogen fixing that that a lot of the cover crops and the the legumes provide it's a lot easier in in perennial Crops like orchids and vineyards that you then you have a longer term cycle to bring that back in But we're also seeing, you know with the annual crops wheat and and sugarcane less plowing a low tillage Really trying not to disturb the soil So when you're trying to bring the life back in you don't want to expose that to the sun and and other natural elements So it's it's there's been incredible science and and we we're not the leaders There are farmers out there teaching us a lot of a lot to be done but Yeah, South African farming the farming community is is always innovative and always trying to try new things and especially living through droughts and and Realizing how changing farming practices makes a huge difference on on that available resource And also with the input costs being so expensive, you know fertilizers are fossil fuel based So they go up when the diesel price goes up and it and it's becoming unaffordable Thankfully for us the environmentalists, but it's becoming unaffordable to be just relying on on Agrochemicals to keep the soil and the crop healthy Yeah, still on the topic of soil Shelly and how does one determine whether or not they've got good soil? There's a color change Is there a difference in texture? How does one know that you're actually farming in good soil as opposed to bad soil? so There's a variety of different aspects to this soil that you need to kind of assess so you look across the Biology the biological factors of the soil how it feels and and whether it's a clay kind of soil or a sandy soil So that's also the physical elements of it and then the chemical aspects. That's usually what people take Into a soil assessment or through the lab So I think the best way is really to just to take a sample and send it off to a lab where you can really see what the nutrient count is But also, I mean you can smell and see and see if the if there's roots if there's Hojas if there's worms if there's life in the soil And most of the farms. I mean this is this is the starting point of their businesses So they know What what's at stake and they know their soil and they land very well It's been going for generations and you really can smell and feel and and Know whether they're still life in that soil But to know exactly what you need to add back in you've got to measure it effectively and so so you do need some analyses to to be able to do that and But yeah, we basically are we trying to promote the fact that You can't look at anything in isolation Isolation so never just the chemical aspects of the soil, but what is the structure? What is the physical side of the soil? Is it too sandy? Do you need to add a little bit more humus to make it? Retain that nutrients and retain the water and so yeah, there's a number of different aspects But it's about bringing that life back Yeah, yeah, how exactly do you work with farmers in your program, right? It's the fruit and wine farmers Are you teaching them about soil conservation or are you? Predominantly working with the farmers just to get research in terms of how they farming what innovative practices are they using? Or are you bringing their knowledge to the fore so that they can adopt in their farming practices? So maybe if you could just outline for us what exactly you're the program that you're currently managing and overseeing What exactly does and how do you work with farmers on the ground? Okay, thank you So as We're a conservation organization But we realize that obviously a lot of the land in South Africa that has Conservation value or is really important for biodiversity or really important for water security for water sources Is in the hands of private and communally owned farmers? so We realized that we need to work in harmony with agriculture because it's the biggest impact on on biodiversity and and we Agriculture is one of the largest water users as well So obviously in a country like South Africa We need to be able to put food on the table and grow the economy But also make sure that there's enough of those natural resources To sustain and allow that future growth. So so we work across different industries so so my program is obviously fruit and wine and generally we work with the industry associations so we develop biodiversity guidelines or Mental standards that that the industry can adopt that are locally relevant and help them get access to market But but more than it more than anything What what drives my passion is working on a one-on-one basis with a lot of these farms and learning from them what they've been doing as I say they're very innovative and and quite often it's it's connecting the research with the practical example and getting that information out there, so we do try and share knowledge develop resources that can be used and and and Opportunities like this is the wonderful example, you know that there are there are always alternatives And there's there's lessons that that we can share to increase the adoption of regenerative practices And so that you unpack it a little bit And then also just to recognize those farms that are leading the way and so for example in the wine industry The wine farms that sign up with us. They commit to adhering to very high levels of environmental Conservation and the way they produce their wine is is in Harmony with nature as much as possible instead of fighting nature And so and then they're allowed to use the sugar bird logo on their wine to differentiate themselves in the market So they're different angles, but it really is trying to get the message out there unpack it the you know Big science words that don't always make sense But really provide practical examples and use the farmers voices to be able to share that as well Yeah, do you think the market cares about how the farmers are producing their wine like you mentioned, you know If a farmer is using very conservative agriculture practices, they get that sugar bird sticker Do you think consumers even know what the sugar bird sticker is because they'll just be buying wine and you know They drink with friends or something like that. So do you think the market really or consume you think the market or the market really cares about Regenerative agriculture and the way in which wine or fruits were produced. Okay, I Think the timing is right. I think maybe 10 years ago South African market was was you know buying on price point only and And there's a lot of stickers out there. There's a lot of labels Promoting organic and all sorts of things. And so I think there is a role to inform the consumer I think the trends these days the consumers want to use their purchase power and want to be able to support You know be part of the solution of helping to conserve the planet But it's critical that we inform the consumers that they know what the sugar bird and the protea means that they can trust What that logo is on the product Because ultimately obviously Price is a factor and you'll you'll choose what you know and what you what's familiar to you But if you suddenly aware that that a wine farm that you've anyway enjoy their product is also part of the conservation And then you might tell friends and those friends might tell other friends And that's and that's how we we raise the awareness and I think it's really important because there are so many farms out there that are doing incredible work and And they really are taking it very seriously their role in terms of conserving the planet and providing food for our tables and and really an important role in the economy as well for job security and And livelihoods so I think I think it's really critical that we are able to support these farmers and And kind of build the trust around that supply chain Absolutely. Well, it sounds amazing with the work that you're doing and I guess it's always interesting to work with various farmers You know farming different commodities and just seeing the different things that they doing on their farms to ensure that their farms are sustainable You know to keep their soil and good health my last question for you.  How does that African farmers compared to those of the rest of the world especially when Farming or adopting new New innovative and farming practices like regenerative agriculture. That's a tricky question, but I appreciate it. So I think I Think because of the scale at which we operate, you know We quite fortunate in that we've got that blend between large-scale commercial production and and many layers smaller than that and And I think linking those two is really important, you know, there's there's the huge Local market which is is quite informal and and how do we bring those farms in and recognize them because they're farming Regeneratively, you know, and then it's not only those big commercial farmers that are that are that are gaining the recognition and the market access So I think South African farms. I mean we measure everything because Everything costs much, you know, so electricity is expensive for pumping your irrigation fertilizers are expensive So we we unfortunately don't have a lot of fertile soil in South Africa So we've got a long way to go to build that healthy soil back up again But there are farms that are doing it and seeing the returns and we're not talking only shifting to organic practices But we're just saying bringing back that life and making sure that you're able to produce enough crop to To make your business viable, but you're not taking everything all the health out of the out of the system And so I would say South African farms can teach the world a lot of different different aspects of how we I mean We farm in such a biodiverse Habitat, you know in the western Cape the wine farms are in the same area as the Cape floral Kingdom Which is the biodiversity hotspot in the world and so and and a lot of our natural area in South Africa There's farms right alongside it. So we are farming together with nature And I think that's really something that we should be proud of and we should celebrate and we should share those lessons So that we can get recognition and we can get more access in in the international space Awesome. Thank you so much for your time this evening. Shelly. I think the guests really appreciate it and I really appreciated the conversation and it's always interesting to see what other organizations are doing out there in the agriculture sector because we don't get to speak to Individuals like yourselves, you know, it's hard to access Professionals like yourselves because you're very busy But yeah, it's it's been a blessing to hear you share some knowledge and also put us Put South African farmers on the forefront, you know in comparison to those global farmers and Thank you also for unpacking the term regenerative agriculture in a very simple and easy to understand type of way and yeah, all the best with the projects that you're running and keep supporting the farmers and Yeah, thank you for your time Thank you for the opportunity Valley. Thanks very much. Take care Thank you. That was Shelly Fuller the program manager of WWF South Africa And our topic this evening was all about soil health and regenerative agriculture We unpacked both of the terms and Got to understand what shelly does with the wine and fruit farmers in the Western Cape If you missed this episode, you can catch catch it on YouTube on our private property YouTube channel under the farming podcast playlist Continue to like share and comment and please subscribe to our YouTube channel follow us on our social media platforms and Send your suggestions on what topics you would like us to cover right here on the farming podcast. That's it for me. Good night


Well, I think first of all, there are so many different forms of adaptation and so many strategies in so many sectors. So one of the biggest challenges is just how complex it is. I would say a second challenge is there's never going to be enough money. I mean, even now, most of the climate funds are going for mitigation and we're so far off what we need for adaptation, maybe only 10% of the money has been pledged. I think a third one would be that we've been focusing on adapting to impacts in a particular place and in fact, most places are vulnerable to changes in other parts of the world. So we haven't looked enough at how to, in a way, sort of buffer ourselves against climate changes in other parts of the world. And I would say a sort of a fourth challenge is the limits to adaptation. We could be facing warming that's so great up to five or six degrees if we don't control our emissions that we may be looking at loss and damage rather than adaptation because people aren't going to be able to adapt to the stresses like it's going to be too hot for certain crops, countries are going to be flooded and so maybe there's some places where we can't even adapt.