Welcome, welcome everybody. This is the Midnight Madness. So we have people who have been here since the beginning and exhausted. We have people that are kind in the middle of their thawne and then we have those who just woke up. So hi to everybody. Thank you for joining us live. And if you are joining us after the fact, thanks for watching us. Look at this great crew for midnight. Hi guys, how are you guys doing? Hello. We've got a really kind of going on here too. Darin, you're kind of our international person here along with David with the Global Project. So thanks guys for joining us. Yeah, we've got two Globetrotters. So how's everybody doing out there? Let us know how you're doing. If you're hanging in there, what are you working on now? And what are you guys working on? What are we working on? Yeah. Well, we are working on an idea that Darin had. We're trying to get at least one profile for every one of our global countries. Wow. We've got a list on our G2G post that we're keeping track. And we're getting there. We've got quite a few to go. But I haven't checked the last count. But we've got probably a couple dozen countries. That's pretty cool. That's really cool. Some unusual. We've got Afghanistan. And we've got Solomon Islands and some of the more common ones, Spain and France and those. That's a pretty cool idea. What about you, Tania? What are you working on? I am focusing on African-American profiles in Tennessee because I want my work to double count for both Connectathon and the US Black Hand. That's fantastic. And you bring up a great point. You can double dip with the box and the monthly challenges as well. That's a great point. Kathy, you've got to talk. So Kathy's having a little bit of computer problems. So she's about 20 seconds behind us, I think. So Kathy, what are you working on? Trying to get more Pennsylvania people added through my bio family. But I'm having a tough time because who I had cleaned up to add have already been added. So you're doing a lot of connecting to existing. So I'm trying. I've connected at least five, maybe six so far. I've had to merge one. So that's at least one. I was looking for your G2G as I go up. And David, you have a question out there. So the question is, are those all existing profiles you can connect to? And those all have exist. Oh, yeah. OK, I didn't understand the question first. Yeah, well, that's one of the challenges. But yeah, I've been using Notables. We have, for the countries that we've created for Global, we have a Notables page. And so I go to that Notable and then I see if they happen to have through Wikipedia or some other source, if they have a spouse or their parents listed. A lot of times with nobility or historical figures, they'll have relatives that are also famous. That's the method I've been using. I'm not sure about how the other team members have. But yeah, you have to have, in order to connect, you have to have somebody to connect them to. But they don't necessarily have to be in that country. They can be a relative that immigrated to America or England or one of the other countries where records are more plentiful. And I'm just going to drop in chat your GDG that you mentioned. And a couple of people are working on interesting things going on. And we have the Newts. As you know, we have a new team.  So Carolyn, thanks for shouting those out. And I am doing cousin bait. I am actually working on trying to add certain name to Wiki Tree. And I'm putting at the top of the profile right under the biography. If you are related to this person, please contact me. And give me a DNA test because I'm trying to track DNA back to somebody from one of the ice ages. That's the closest match he has. So I am doing cousin bait. So little interesting things going on. OK, let me get one thing started before we go any further. As you know, at the Hangouts, we're going to give you a word. You're going to type it. And you can type it as many times as you want. But it will only count as once. And it doesn't matter. Lowercase, uppercase, the word is relatives. So it's relative. And we will collect it. And then towards the end, we will do the drawing board. OK, and then, David, you have some stats. So we're going to do stats a little different. We're going to do something on the whole board, scoreboard of stats, but not by team. We're going to look at people, right? So right. We have 556 participants so far. And what I'm going to do is read the scores for every 50th person. So that should be 11 people altogether. But I'll start with number one just because it'll give us a reference as to where our top score is. And right now, Patty LaPlante has 723 profiles that she's created. So that's our number one. Number 50, let's see. I'm scrolling down here. Number 50 is Yvonne Slowie. And she has 114. Number. I'll see. She's supposed to call me. Sorry, the team. And I scroll past that she was Aussie. Yeah. Number 100 is JohnD Powers with Appalachia with 58 profiles. That's good. And we thought if we did it this way, we wouldn't have to read Appalachia so much. We woke up. We were on time. We didn't leave somebody yet. Number 150 is Joar Murray with 41. Wait, OK.  Let me refresh. Am I reading a different? That keeps changing. So you refresh and I'll refresh. OK, I'll refresh it. And there was Deb at one time with Northwest Terriers. It's refreshing as quickly as I can read it. OK. So Deb Gunther with Northwest Terriers, 42. And number 200 is Eric L. Fernandez with the Southern Super Sweepers. 31. My teammate. And number 250 is. Well, there we go. Another D. I'll see D. Arbora McAllery. Is that how we say it? Super Aussies again. That's with 24. And number 300 is having a little trouble lining these up here. OK. I know. Trevor. Trevor, is that Trevor? OK. I can see him standing. He was Ableton with the Wizards of Austin. Another Austin. 18. And number 350. There we go. One of the new teams. That is Nanette Warbaugh. The Grave Guardians. That's our cemetery. She is 12. And number 400 is Eric C. Perkins with the Nor'easters with nine. And number 450 is Linda L. Crannell with Atlantic US Five. And number 500. Hope I'm not giving anybody very good with this. And I can never say this last name. And now I'm going to have to pronounce it out loud. Is it Gopie or Gopie here? I don't know how she pronounces that. But she tends to be very active with our notable. So I'm familiar with the name. With the legacy heirs. And that's three. And then number 550. Here is with Sherry D. Roman with the cornbread catchers. And that's 550. See, that was pretty fun. Laura, you're getting a little mix of everybody. Listen, all Appalachia. So that's fine, too. I do want to show you guys, since this is the first hangout that I'm doing, I might show it again on the last Midnight Madness. But there is something brand new out that I love. And I want to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you guys real quick. If you have any questions about it, feel free to reach out to us. And I will also tell you who else to reach out to. If you're on Discord, did you guys know there's a new channel, sub-channel called Tech out there? No, it's really cool. So if you're on Discord, that would be something to do. So how many of you guys keep the profiles that you're working on during the time? Yeah, I do. I do, too. All of them? Just about really? I keep them aside, tying them up, and check for profiles that I've missed, and sources that I've missed. And then I get rid of them. Yeah, I keep them because they're part of my ongoing projects for the most part. Yeah, and you've got probably, and I know some people work in one place or one name. They will also keep them. I work on a broader. So for those of you that have ditched the profiles, that you don't keep them, you ditch them, you've probably gone to your watch list in the past, which is a great thing to do, and that's where we're going to go, too. I'm going to show you what it looks like. So as you go to your watch list, and you must have Wiki Tree browser extension for this. When you go to your watch list, you'll see this big remove selected from watch list. This was such a fabulous thing. I was so excited to do this. You can sort your watch list by name, by birth, by status, ooh, edit date. So if you're working on the THON, just click on that. It should show you all the ones that you were working on this weekend as well. And if you don't want them, then all you can do is just click here, which ones you don't want, and click remove from watch list, and boom, they're gone. You're not on the trusted list, and you're not on the as a profile manager. Remember, you have to have WBE, though, to do that. So keep that in mind. But did you guys notice something? I have been begging for this, and I will tell you that one of the people that helped create it and allowed me to bug him to death is in the audience. His name is Flo, and Ian, big shout out to Ian. Who doesn't know Ian by now as well. So if you notice this little thing called suggestion. So how many times have you gone to your watch list to try and remove people that worked on the THON, but you got to open the profile to look at it to see if there's an error first. Like Darren had mentioned, you got to keep them for a while to make sure there's no errors. So let me tell you what happens with a THON. When you have a THON and you create something today or tomorrow, Friday or Saturday, it will show up in the database errors list on Tuesday. I'm talking about East Coast time.  But the ones you're working on Sunday and Monday, you got to wait to the following Tuesday to make sure there are no errors on it. And if you choose not to keep the profile, then you can ditch it just like I did. But before, we just have to click on each in every profile, look to see if there was an error. And it was a lot of work. And some people get a little tired of that. Now look at this, really cool. So now there are three things that you can come to your watch list for, especially after a THON.  Maybe I want to keep them because of degrees, who knows? Or it's a great-granduncle. Maybe I'm keeping great-granduncle. And this is a question that I've been asking my project all week. Do I want to keep great-granduncles? I don't know, I'm still debating that. So you guys tell us. Do you guys want to keep your great-granduncles or do you just want to keep that direct line? Do you want to keep the name? Maybe if you're working on a name or place, it's a tough decision. And then look down here, it's showing you there. I love this, I love this. So thank you, Ann, and thank you, Flo, for doing this. This allows you, after a thawne, after everything's going through the Alessia's database error report, if you have an error, you can work on it and then fix it and keep the profile or ditch it. Really, really, really easy to do. But I also love how it shows the distance and the people. And if you don't- What I like about that is not so much knowing how somebody's related to me, but knowing who's not related to me. Those are the ones that I really don't need hold on to, but I'm always afraid to delete them because I think, oh, I don't know if I'm related to them or not. And then you'd have to click on the profile to see and waste all that time. And sometimes even then, if you're not related, you have to click through a lot of profiles before you figure out that you're not related. You do. And you're seeing like right here, I'm not related to all these people. So here's where it's tricky for me because I do have the Bonner One Name Study and they are my beloved Bonner family, so I tend to keep them. So this whole table shows you place, and name, distance, your relationship, and also if there are errors. Lots of good things to work on. And if you don't want them, you just click. And then at the very top, there's that big remove button. Pretty easy. Thank you again to Ian and Flo. I believe and Flo cracked me if I'm wrong. I believe that Ian worked on the table for the distance in relation and Flo worked on the suggestions to get it all through. But I do need to tell you guys very quickly and keep this in mind if you don't remember, reach out to us. You do need to have WBE. You need to come up to your WBE options and turn it on. So go to the other very last thing and just go all the way down to the bottom. Take your cursor all the way down to the bottom and you'll see table filters and sorting. And there you go, add distance and relationship. Really, really easy to do. Okay, so I like that idea, David, that it shows you who you're not related to. So then you can ditch as well. Now I've got questions for you guys. Are you guys ready? So we normally ask some questions to everybody in the chat, but also everybody that you're seeing here, they don't know the questions either. So we're gonna dive in there. This will be very interesting. So what we're gonna play and I want everybody to answer, give us your answer as well. Feel free to let us know if you have any experience with any of these questions. This is gonna be historical. Would you rather? So the very first thing, would you rather sail with Christopher Columbus on his first voyage or explore the Silk Road with Marco Polo? That's an easy one. Oh, go ahead, David. I'm not getting on a boat. Ooh. Back then, if you're not getting on a boat now, you definitely don't want to get on a boat. So is it Christopher Columbus or Marco Polo, Tania? The Silk Road. That's me too. Yes, definitely. Kathy? Christopher Columbus. Really? And Darren? I would have to say probably Marco Polo as well. I was curious to see which one you would say. So what's everybody saying? It looks like we've got a good mix of Columbus, so forth. We've got a few coming through. And don't think the word is relevant. About half. I know. I'm a little surprised. I kind of thought everybody would say Columbus. So I'm a little bit surprised at that. Okay. And you know, this is not a Saturday round, though. Yeah, there's no spreadsheet. Yeah, great idea. Greg's asleep. This is the mute me, Howard. Okay, so the next question. So would you rather participate in the moon landing or in the invention of the internet? Oh, easy for me, internet. No, I do the moon landing. Moon landing. I'd go for the moon landing, too. See, this was a tough one for me. The moon landing was hard, y'all. They almost didn't make it. See, I don't understand the internet. I understand the moon. So you don't understand the internet, but you understand squeezing yourself in a tiny castle with barely any breathing. No bathroom. Being shot up somewhere. That's true. And I've seen one of those landing capsules at the museum. Going up wasn't nearly as scary. I think it's coming down. I agree. This is funny. I don't know. It looks like a lot of people that are picking the moon. Picking the moon. You're picking the moon. Interesting. Okay. So the next one. Would you rather witness the unveiling of Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel or the invention of the printing press by Johannes Gutenberg? We're talking about art in pain or, you know, printing press. You know, all the books we read. Sistine Chapel. I'm going to go rogue. I would have liked to have watched them paint the Sistine Chapel. You want to see it as it's happening. Yes. He's painting up there. So are we talking printing press or chapel? What's everybody out there saying?  Who can do that? So this was a tough one for me. Is there some way we can reverse the chat with the connect-a-thon dates? I can't see all of you and write at the same time. Carol, where are we writing? Maybe that's what we should do tomorrow. Everybody has to write an essay, you know?  Nobody like that in school. And I agree. This is a good excuse for traveling. I was going to say Karen's comment. This is a good excuse for traveling. Okay, so then the next one. Would you rather be a gladiator in the Roman Coliseum or a philosopher in Athens during the Golden Age? Oh, that one's easy for me too.  Oh! You were one of those fun kids, weren't you? No, I can't seem to help being a philosopher. I wanted to give advice. Okay, what about you guys, Darren? I can't seem to be a philosopher, so I'd have to be a gladiator. I know, now I've got the song too in my head, the gladiator, gladiator. So, Tania? I would say philosopher because that was one of my unexpected courses that I enjoyed a lot in college. And one of my favorite books is Sophie's World, which is a journey through all the different philosophers over the decades, over the centuries. So, philosopher. Now, but as a kid, did you give advice? No, no, no, no. No, I did not. I would give advice to my parents, but it didn't always go so well. I can see that V turned around. Cathy, what about you? Gladiator. Gladiator right now for the adventure. Gladiator all the way. This is funny. So, you guys are, I think, philosophers winning. Yes. See, with me, I just state and think my chances would be good as a gladiator.  It's just not my style. I like this. And my family, people switch sides and argument it together. It's just not my style. I love it. That's true. I'm a philosopher. I like living. This is great. That's the next. Okay. So would you rather be a code breaker working at Bletchley Park during World War Two or a nurse on the front lines? Code breaker. Code breaker. That was quick. Really quick. So everybody's code breaker, right? Now, I got, I know we have a couple nurses in the chat. So I'm really curious to see if they say code breaker or nurse. Because if they say code breaker, then we know we picked the right thing. I'll say one nurse, one for both. Anybody else that sees big code breakers? Yeah. Okay. Carol, I was waiting on you. Oh, nurse and code breaker. Wow. I knew Carol was a nurse. You got to answer as you could work the front lines as a nurse and then be the code breaker as well. That would be fun. Okay. So would you rather be present for the signing of the Declaration of Independence or witness the fall of the Berlin Wall? So would you rather see a country being born by a document or being born by a document or being born because they tore down the barriers? Tough one. I would say Berlin Wall. I would say Berlin Wall. No, see, you can watch that on TV. I'd see the signing of the Declaration of Independence. You can see that on TV too. Oh, no. Mr. Berlin Wall by one day. And I would tell you, this one was, this one was the Berlin Wall. Oh, no. Mr. Berlin Wall by one day. And I would tell you, this one was a little particular for me because I lived in Berlin for a couple of years. And believe it or not, I can't decide on this one because I think they were both equally worthy in such different ways. I'd be Berlin Wall because pretty much the Declaration of Independence has no meaning for me. Yeah. I don't know Yankee on the American side. I'll say that's what ASEAN says, setting up the Federation of Australia. Yep. So I think, Bill in your country. This one has been, I'm thinking that most of you all are picking, signing the Declaration. Okay. So this one, I got two more left guys and then we'll do the prize drawings. So remember relatives, type in relatives, plural for the prize word. You still have time. So would you rather be a knight jousting in a tournament or a scholar translating ancient text in a monastery, a silent monastery? Oh. Scholar. Scholar. Are you a knight jousting or are you a silent monk? A knight jousting. Okay. We need to hang out with Kathy. She likes all of the adventure. I know this is kind of how I feel knight because I just can't be silent. I like this. Scholar silence is gold. And then Christine, I got to agree. This is tough. But it's so tough. I could do that. Okay. So one more. This is the silly question. And it's not really historic unless it's in your own family or you plan to become a ghost. So you guys ready for this one?  Or would you rather be a beetle juice type of ghost? Kasper. Your descendants. I'm a friendly ghost. What do you guys think, Darren? Everybody's friendly. Friendly ghost. I would be a beetle juice without doubt. I think my daughter would be a beetle juice. I would like to be beetle juice, but then I'd feel really bad afterwards. But you can give them advice. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. It depends on my wife. A friendly ghost. Friendly. This is funny. So thanks guys for playing along. We always have a couple of questions just to get those who have been with the morning all the way through to midnight with us hanging out. Those are halfway in between and those who just woke up. We hope we gave you a good start to go. You've got one last chance to type in relatives and let's bring up the screen. And I guess I should give you guys the rules, too. For those of you who haven't watched The Hangouts before this one today, for this thong, there are a couple of new rules. If you have won a prize through any type of drawing situation that includes my bingo show, David's bingo show. If you won a prize in the past six months and if you won a prize at the last thong, which was the source of thong. So if you won a prize at the last source of thong or any time since, which we can do in a drawing type of situation, you cannot win again for another six months or to the next thong if you're doing a source of thong. So everybody right? Let's see who gets it. Oh, this is the exciting part. Kara, Kara, Kara, Kara. Congratulations. That's you. We'll keep your information. We will get in touch with you about what the prize is. I have no clue what the prizes are. Kathy, do you know what the prizes are? Sonia, do you know what the prizes are? I don't know what they are. I have no idea. I do know one thing. It will say wiki tree on it. I do know. So congratulations, Kara. Thanks for playing along, guys. And do you guys have anything you want to share before we go? Happy connecting, everybody. Happy connecting, happy connecting. I know this will be back in a few hours. Yeah, I would say, you know, usually I used to do the 4 a.m. with Kathy and a Lesh. And then I stopped doing the 4 a.m. so I could actually do something called sleep. But... Sleep is on your right head. I'm filling in for Lesh in about what? Three and a half hours. And I believe, Darren, you're going to be there. David, you're going to be there. Kathy, you're going to be there. Sonia, you're going to be there. I'm not going to be there. I might be in the chat, but I'm not going to be there. We'll see. So some of us will see you at the next one.  Lesh is real good about that. So I will try to do my best to take his place. And that's just for this one. He'll be back at 4 a.m. for the next two. But anyway, that will be it. So everybody, have fun. Get back to connecting. Enjoy. And we will see you throughout the day, every four hours during the hangout. Bye, everybody. Bye. If I can get the stream going. There we go.


夢 gyntaf. Ac rwy'n rwy'n gweud i'n cerdyn nhw. Mae'n rwy'n edrych o'r dechau ar y peth. Mae'r cyfrifiadau o fynd â'r cyfrifiadau. Mae'r cyfrifiadau, rwy'n rwy'n gwedd yw. Dyma, mae'n ddim yn siwr i'n meddwl â'r ffyrtu. Dydw i'n meddwl â'i cyfrifiadau yw 1997, ydw i'n mewn gwirg. The owners priority was to have as much pasture as possible for their two bosses. so, there was this right up to the house wall where it was a blank canvas for us. That was excitement. We wanted to create a garden. The first thing that we did was to ask the local agricultural college in us to come up with their JCVs, turn it all over and create some flat areas for us to then develop. We had it all put down to good grass, and so the story begins.  There's my mother acknowledging the fact that now they're joined together. We've got a pergolae. They've got the beginnings of an arbor with some clims just starting to go on. By 2006 the new hedges that we put in were sufficient that we could curve them with anew one so that we could see the garden beyond, and we bought this cue fountain to put in close to the house. And then I spotted these two boys, these bronzers, in an auction. They were separate lots, but to my mind they would be good if put together to create a feature in the top level of the garden where we've got some specimen trees. They live there and they come with us. When we move, 2014, tightly used that I'd put in either side of the driveway, a gram enough that I could turn them into these cones. And as I've just indicated, 2019, we are them be moving.  That was really fashionable in the 1950s as were rockers and dwarf conifers. Not too long ago, prairie planting was in bone. That seems to have gone off the boil a bit now and formality is coming back. And whoever succeeds will have their own personal challenges as will primarily financial. If we were going to create a 1.6 acre form gone, it would be really costly, so we did it all ourselves. That's what's taken so long over the years, but that's been a joy, a garden's organic. We've seen it change across time as we've had money available and the energy to do it. Another factor is that energy, you know, family circumstances can change dramatically. In extreme circumstances, social unrest, I've just missed it, thankfully, when I was born, but before I was born, everyone was digging for victory during wartime. Front gardens, back gardens would turn over to increase the amount of fruit and vegetables available. And then increasingly now, a factor that whoever follows us will take into account probably more than we've had to, is climate. Penstemons that I used to lose every year now survive, but never still haven't done so well. If anybody wanted to know what did the Penstemons create as a carbon between 1997 and 2020, and hopefully we will have moved on, where will they look? Well, yes, we've taken photographs there in the family. As time goes on, I'm sure it's not my son or someone who follows him who will say, oh, we can get rid of these now. We've opened a garden for the National Garden scheme, the Yellow Rock scheme. They will have old booklets in their archives where the garden is described in some photographs, and certainly we appeared on their websites but will most still be accessible to anybody researching our garden history. Look on newspapers, yes, we've often appeared in those where we've opened a garden for charitable events. Those are certainly in an archive in Monmouth. And my artist's cousin is painting a painting of the gardeners and a mentor for us to take away with us. Somebody might come across that in the future. It might be sold on by the family, who knows. And I asked at the cultural college, the department that came up with their JCBs in 1997, to turn the garden over. Well, that's closed. I don't know what's happened to the accounts, so anybody that knows that they were involved back then, I'm excited that they'll find any evidence of the colleges involved. Yes, somebody could come up with a machine like I've got. I do geophysics as a garden historian. If you know the time to eat, you may have a machine that goes over the surface, and run it over the surface of ground, and it shows up rather like an x-ray of the remains of walls and foundations that lie below. So we could commission that. It's very costly. But I don't think anybody will be interested in our garden because we're not national figures. The house isn't historically significant. It will probably just disappear in time. Generally speaking, the further you go back in time, the harder it is to find evidence of a garden's existence, its existence and of alone what it's like. And for that reason, generally, garden historians focus on the houses and gardens of nationally significant people in time, and houses that have got really striking architectural features. For that reason, garden history has focused in the past particularly on the houses of kings and queens, top gorgeous, otherwise top diplomats. People have played a big part in our nation's history. Before I turn my attention to Cambridge colleges, I respect some years researching the houses and gardens of the Duke's of Beaufort. Their surname is Somerset. The current Duke is called Harry the Sunset. They were only made Duke's in 1682 before that. They were known as Earls or Markuses for Huston. There are three main houses associated with this family. Bartminton, which is the main family seat now, and has been since the 1660s. You're probably associated with the horse trials of the hell of their family, that's the Duke's of Beaufort, the main family seat in Gloucestershire. Troy House, however, is in Wales, and this family actually hailed from Wales, contrasting who's back to being Welsh, through the Herbert family and then through marriage to the Somerset family. And Troy House, which I researched in depth, was occupied by them in 1600 up until the end of the 17th century, and then finally they auctioned it off in 1901. But waiting for that, Raglan Castle, also in Wonshire, in South East Wales, was their first family seat from 1492. And just so that you can work out the geography here, this is South East Wales in the 7th estuary with Bristol here, Bartminton is here. Right on the border with England, the wide form in the border, there's Troy and Raglan slightly further into Wales is positioned there. Here's Raglan Castle. It was a wireless stronghold in the Civil War, and when it was under siege, it was badly damaged, but as you can see substantial amounts of it still exist. It has lost its roots. It's lost its gardens, unfortunately, but there are still remains of the basic structure of those gardens. Certainly in the 17th century, it was more a heist than a fortress, and it had remace knots inspired gardens, which were really at the forefront of garden design in the UK, which I'll show you now. There is a plant that exists. Often when parliamentarians took an estate, they then surveyed it to see what it was worth, and they drew plans of it. This is the plant from that time, dated 1652 by Lord Smyth. The castle is positioned here with a garden in one of its courts. They've got these huge terraces. There are three terraces, two of them are much larger than the third, and they've got bits that stick out on the terraces by viewing platforms, but all of them overlocked this great pool, Shoming Boob, which initially ended here. This funny structure at the top, I'll be describing shortly, that was added later. The great pool was formed in the valley base by blocking by damning a stream that runs along here, the dam there at this bottom end of here. These terraces, three or four years ago, they were excavated, a bit of test tranches were put in, just to see if there was anything still surviving in the way or pathways, foundations, walls, to find anything. Except, probably robbed out, local villages of Raglan, very short distance away, are known to have robbed Raglan and art and civil war for its stone, so probably ending the valley would have been taken away. But some more archaeologists can be conducted later this year, we see if that turns out to be something more useful. But on the edge of these terraces, along here, something did turn up during this excavation period, it's an edging stone and in its colour composition, it's probably chewed up, although this part is broken. Can you see that it's beveled? This is where it would have been buried in the soil, the substrate by tipping. We've got evidence of the pool existing from this account written in 1674. Then, that's the round of villages near Bada, the end of the siege in 1646 during the civil war. We're said to cut the stanks, they are both banks or dams, of the great fish pond where they have stored the very great carts and other large fish. So it wasn't just there, just for aesthetic purposes, very nice to look over a stretch of water, it was full of fish for food. We've got an even earlier piece of evidence of the existence of the great pool. It's an account of an inquest held by a prisoner on the body of a child found around in the water called the Fishing Pool, so it was full of fish back in 1465. We cite the little mother of Radlen. From the dates, it's most likely that the pool was created by Sir William Herbert, first of February, who was a key figure in the history of Wales. It always helps to know the family history, the family that owned the property, so it always helps to establish a garden in this history by knowing the ownership history of the house too. We've got this account that's survived from 1587. Trots Churchyard liked travelling around sites and then waiting up little accounts of what he'd seen. This is what he said about Radlen in 1587. Not far from then, that's Radlen Village, the famous castle fire at Radlen height stands moated almost round, that's because although the keep has got a boat all the way round it, the rest of the castle has only got a boat on one side because the other side falls away steeply where those terraces are. Made of freestyle, upright or straight as line, whose workmanship and beauty duck about, the cure is not how we've got a not garden there, or several not gardens. Wrought all with edged tool, the safety tower that looks old pond and outclaws have got old as well as old. Now we've got a fountain, a fountain trend that run both day and night to feel and show a rare and noble sight. It sounds wonderful. We have a fountain there. Any other evidence of a fountain? Well, there are two courts at Radlen Castle. One that you enter is surrounded by service buildings in the Great Hall. If you go through the Great Hall you then end up in this court, which has always been called the fountain court. It's lined by apartments that would have been for guests. This is the prestigious area of Radlen Castle and this is the location of the state of government where Charles I stayed several times and this is believed to be the base of the fountain where the fountain stood. During the Torian times the remains of this fountain still existed, but the Torian tourists being what they were, they lied mementos and they demolished this visit at the time. Sadly there are no photographs that have come to light as yet, but what it looked like should be some somewhere from the late 19th century. Another piece of evidence of the fountain's existence. This was written also in 1574. A pleasant marble fountain in the mid-sparg world called the White Horse continually running with clear water. It's another reference to it always running with water. Now we know it was marble. Why was it called White Horse? Well from the accounts we know a fountain existed in 1587, at least from that time, and again looking at the family history, most likely it comes from the time of William Sunser, third over Worcester, but there's been some confusion on who created this fountain because this is William Sun, Edward Sunser, fourth over Worcester who was a top courtier in Lisbeth and James The First Courts. He was the first member of the Somerset family to be made master of the horse in 1601. That was a very prestigious position to hold within a royal court and if you look closely around Edward's neck he's got a medallion and on that medallion there's a little white horse with a man astrided which has led people to say oh this pleasant marble fountain called the White Horse was created by him when he was made master of the horse. It sounds so plausible but remember there was a fountain there running night and day in 1587. Perhaps it was a fountain and then when Edward achieved master of the horse status he changed it to a White Horse, Marble Horse. I'm still looking for evidence of stuff who did what, but we don't know how it got its water source. I was part of the team that did this dig by the plinth where the fountain was thought to have been positioned and yes we found a stone blind trench champion. We got down to the stone at the bottom still excavating here. We found all sorts of artefacts as we did this, but this stone blind trench on the taping water to the plinth can be traced back to where the main well is in the pitch court and to the springs that wire on high ground outside of the castle walls. Going back to the plan of 1652 we dropped by the terraces in the Great Pool. What is this structure on here? Well it's a water parter. Water parter is rather like a not garden except instead of a pot being traced out by every plant there are water channels so you've got a collection of grassy flat top islands with water channels between. We've got another simple one here. The water around those connects to the Great Pool. This one was created by Edward the Master of the Horseman. That's what my research shows. Although the Great Pool was down the stream, was down the route through it to create the Great Pool, what Edward did was to then go back along the stream to create another channel so that water could flow in both sides of the water parter to ensure that it was always filled with some water during times of drought. I'm going to enlarge that. This is one of the most complicated water parters created in the whole of the UK and it's survived in the sense that the water's long since been drained away has just tripled the stream now. But there are still hunts and monks in the ground showing the outline of these islands and if you're all carefully you can get onto the Great Pool at four points. It joins up at the Great Pool and there's a little building here which appears to be sat in the water of at least three compartments. This isn't a plan of that water parter but it's one that was commissioned by Robert Cecil for his house at Hatfield. This is in the National Archives. We've got no evidence that it was ever built and might be one of rather them but it shows some similarity and that's not surprising. Robert Cecil and Edward Sunset, Marshall Houseman, Horseman were great friends and collaborators. They have houses next to the channel on Strang. I think this is a case of you can build a complicated water parter as you see mine. Note that there is a building in the water channel so these are the islands, triangular islands and we've got a building with argyllus as it is actually set in order. Remember that? There's something I'm going to show you later. Marshall Houseman also created a garden walk. It's now called the Moat Walk as it does in fact go around the moat. 15 brick blind niches. There are some more. And they've got a canopy over the top because what each one can take was a statue of her own emperor. We don't know what they were made of but there's some evidence from a member of the Somerset family. Her ratio is around between marriage and opening of family. It was an historian. She always claimed that information had been passed on to her dad through the family although there was no documentation to back it up that these Roman emperors were made of terracotta. Not marble, as was the fashion at the beginning of the 17th century. If you look at some of the other niches you can see traces of plaster coloured with a grid on, scoring of circles and this one, the remains of what was then impressive on plaster, they are the basis of shelves. So those niches were lined with shelves. So the thing about it makes it entirely sensitively then to terracotta statues rather than marble because they would stand out so well. You often come across when you're researching how sport of art is history, the family knew things that you can't prove with documentation but always listen to what they say. There are two flat areas against the walls of Wrathlenham Castle. This is one. It has been occupied by workmen's hearts for decades so it can't get any archaeology done there and there's a terrace here. This whole flat area is overlooked by the prestigious apartments of the founding court. Not only that, this also would have been overlooked by the little viewing tower here, the foundations of which are brick. Not only would you be able to go up this viewing tower to look down on the great pool which lies below here, but you'd be able to look down on here. Can you guess what sort of structure would be there? What always looks best when it's viewed from above as a garden feature and not a garden with its well, this is a not garden design, made for a good work master of horse, not that Wrathlenham, unfortunately, is kept in the river Gerdgin London. It's thought the property owned apple storage and on site it was the keeper of the bridge in Larkford. It's a huge not garden and it seems reasonable to suggest that that flat area contains a viewing tower made of bricks, most likely built by every bed floor, but it also had a not garden on it. It's too sensitive an area to be overlooked by the prestigious guest apartments, not to have had something like this there at the beginning of the 17th century. Can you see how unthinkingly mixed fashions exist in evidence with there what you know about the family and the site itself? The other flat area around Wrathlenham against the walls is this one, turned into a Bowing Green at an unknown date. It was the original entrance that used to slope up to the original entrance way back in the 15th century, but as I said it was leveled off, Bowing Green frequently visited by Charles I who loved all this, and at this time in the early 17th century when he visited Wrathlenham, the then owner, Somerset Thargyn Member, was Edward Marjolarsis, had a horse son called Henry Somerset, the fifth owner of the horse that made marquis because of all the money he gave to Charles I of the royalist course, and there was Thomas Bay living in the household who looked after the Irish religious means, but also recorded conversations between Henry and the king, and one day apparently playing bowls, Thomas records that Henry was pointing out to the king, if you look over there, that's where the home park is in the red deer, our purchase more land, so now we own as far as you can see, and over there I'm thinking of purchasing that property over there, and at this point, according to Thomas Bayley, the king looked quizzically at the marquis as if to say, small land, anyway this is what Thomas said happened next. The marquis of Worcester, opposing the king that touched upon his creed in us, of purchasing all the land which was near to him, showed his majesty the rows of trees, and told the king that beyond those trees stood a pretty tenement for what they were spinning on, and because he would not have they were spinning on to be an isle, a temptation to him, he had planted those trees to put his arms from such temptations, so we've got evidence here in the early 16th wrthys of the then owner, Ock and Byam of Radlen, doing some landscaping, using trees to alter vistas, we are years ahead of capability ground, and his style doing just that to alter vistas, going back to the plan, it shows a bridge across the pool, and there's a little building, this is a map over there that I like doing because it puts the features that you know existed years ago in the Montmallanské, so it's that plan that you've seen already, put on top of electronically, a modern osmar, so that we know where the bridge pool stretched out towards the A4 teacher in the white here, on the osmar, where I can see where the bridge is down here, a great pool and it's down, stretched out to learn what now is a modern farm, so I know exactly where this bridge was positioned in the Montmallanské, so I walked there, did a survey in the area, and then found this picture held up up in the town, which shows the castle after the civil war, where the pool doesn't exist anymore, it's drained out, but there's a little building here, which are enlarged, remember the arches in the bottom of Cecil's building on his water platter, that implies it was sitting in water, perhaps it was sitting in water on the great pool, by the mill, by that bridge, certainly the surveying and map analysis indicates that, and finally from this plan, there's a huge approach route here, this was put in by the marquis before the civil war took off, was never completed because of that war, and it was a fashion at the time to create approach routes to add even more impressiveness, if there is such a word, to for the guests seeing where they were aiding for right hand castle from this direction, sits on the hill of this syrwetif on scarp, not only that, he also added this small pool to that because now there's no evidence of any pool, was that also agreed, is this invited down? Well, there is a painting again at Barminton, when it shows this approach route after the end of civil war, late 17th century, and if you look carefully, the syrwps there, they're controlling the flow of water here, the level of water, and then if you look at a plan, a modern day plan of weather or water courses, just here is the right area for the lake that's been created, here are the water issues, they goes underground, if we look at them up over the lake and we look at it where the water issues are, yes this is what the marquis took to dam and create that lake, there's evidence of the dam itself, the sands, and I know that the red gate, the new gateway, it's actually positioned under a 1960s house on the edge of a rotten village, all done to make an even more impressive approach altering the landscape, again, years before capability ground comes on the sink, so what we've got here is my reconstruction of Ranan-Parson, as it would have been at the time, just before the civil war, I'm showing you this because it's better than for showing the scale of everything, so it's not taken from sills, this is a special software package where people don't mention something, select the type of stone that you want, so it's bringing the research together in a way that enables you to better understand the scale of everything, the great pool was a third of a mile long, it ridled that, the Camelot that is half a mile in, the water parterio at the head of this great pool was inserted by Edward Marshall of course, it's huge, that's the building that was shown in the water near the castle, there was an existing building that was at Swarksman, though it's been set in water, but I've taken its top section, it was a viewing tower to view deer hunting, and it's to the right period at the beginning of the 17th century, so I've moulded it on that, and this water parterio that travels wide enough that you could go along them in a boat, there's something shallow on the plan in the centre of the water parterio, most likely it was a fountain, there's no detail of it so I kept it as a very simple fountain, and then as we go back we're looking at the terraces archaeology as I've said hasn't told us what's on the terraces, but most likely we would have been found trees against the walls, retaining walls, these are shown on the plan, therefore the time of boats, there are man-made islands, it would have played war games here, noia machia, more battles, to be observed from the terraces or from this bridge, there's a building that I put in the water because there's evidence of those arches, so everything needs to scale, you can see how enormous that water parterio was, and as we move away you get a better impression of the size of the great pool, and we're going to stop even before we get to the bridge. End of the civil war, in common with most aristocrats, the family went into exile, either to Isle-Rhobe in France, but one member stayed, it's a child centre, the south of Everett, March of the Horse, and he lived at Troy House estate just one mile south of Monmouth, shown here in an aerial view where the house is here, the estate farm is very, very close, and then there's a walled garden on the west side, four acres, thought to be 17th century, but no, I found evidence that the walls are actually from the 16th century, as are the bee holes that were inserted, and what Charles did was to insert in the pre-existing walls a little ornamental entrance here, so he could conveniently take his guests from the house through this archway into the walled garden because it was the fashion in the early part of the 17th century to observe nature, and this little entrance is all eight, if we look at the pedestrian, Charles Murray, a local heiwress, Elizabeth Powell, and the initials Charles and Elizabeth Sunset, shown there, the cornucopia stands for ones of plenty, so all the guests would have read this knowing that within the walled garden there's plenty growth, a struck work here typical of the Jacobean Pier, inside the walled garden, that's what the entrance looks like, it's actually a little building, there's one of the 16th century bee bowls, and all of this straight to the visitors, the owner knows about architectural customs, because it's straight out of an architectural treatise done by Spastien Serio, and this is the wall that's translated for the first time in 1611 into English, and if you look at that, and you look here, you can see how similar, there's nothing else like this, and I won't even care, at least I haven't discovered anything like it, and it's the beginnings of having ornamental entrances to garden areas, using architectural fashions of the day, going to take you now slightly away from the house, into the wider landscape, on what Noesmar, the house is here, you can tell by the contour alignments that this land goes up quite steeply, to a wooded ridge full of springs, there's a little room in the building which is about 300 metres away from the house, on rising ground, and there it is, ruined because of the ivy that's taken over its top part, but it's a sheer stone, it's got a little gothic doorway, it's got a string course here, people have said, oh this is a game yarder, no it's not, game yarder's always closer to the house, other people have said it's a garden building, that they only would take guests to to take the freshments and to sit and observe the landscape around, no it's not, this is what it looked like apparently before the ivy took it over, this comes from the memories of the person who worked on this stage until the 1970s, it has no windows if you can look through, it's a tidy window in the gable end and there's one that the other end still exists, when I visited this building I scrolled to where the earth as I saw it's got in its floor and it's got this leg pipe coming in through the doorway, oh sorry, it's got a broken end and on the opposite wall there's a leg pipe going out and I traced it with a metal detector going down the hillside in the direction of the house, what this is shrieking is that this is a conduit house, there was a lead tank between broken ends and water from the springs upon the ridge would have flowed down through lead pipes along here into that tank then through a series of tanks down here again under the forced gravity to supply the house with water probably by the time it reaches the house it's coming at some force it would have been sufficient to work fountains, you need a force of water unless you're going to store ponds and because the string course on this building is so similar to that on the garden entrance chances are it was also put in by Charles Sunset he who stayed at Troy during the Civil War rather than going into exile he dies in 1665 and he leaves Troy to his great-nephew Henry Sunset and Henry when he returns from exile from Rome lives at Troy for a short time but then he inherits Badminton and it's from that time in the 1660s that Badminton becomes the main family seat but he gives Troy to his only surviving son and heir another Charles and Charles marys in 1682 and uses Troy house as a centre for in ministry on behalf of his father all the family's extensive worship service this is Troy house but this is the part that the first dude funded the building on for his son the older Troy house which Charles Sunset of the and garden entrance lies behind this section is joined onto that it faces north so I call it the north range and there are accounts held in Badminton ffarncines that show that it was built between 1681 to 84 that it cost this amount of money two and a half brand nearly and that the gardens were also enhanced at this time so it was somewhere in present funded by dad who by this time was the first Duke of Bothet made so by Charles II for the family having held Charles I so much and also discovered amongst the letters in Badminton that Robert Warren previously unknown had a hand in designing this and then Duke's house at Chelsea and altering the gardens there and you often find this as your research one property named come up that you please into discovering the history of another this is a plan from 1712 so just 30 years later that shows the real trophy here the house here and on this side a formal garden which we call an eccentric garden because it's got this demi-loon it's got this semicircle at the end from it this is what the author uses to represent an avenue of trees avenue of trees towards the trophy and they're picking up again beyond it's empty of trees it's formal garden formal garden here and here but elsewhere around orchard the next plan is from 1765 so some 50 odd years later if you get your eye there's the river trophy here's the house here's the eccentric garden but now it's full of fruit trees like the rest of the orchards around and why is that well in 1698 the sun and air the first Duke was killed in a coaching accident and because badminton was the main family seat it was decided that Troy wouldn't be occupied by the family members anymore a steward was put in to administer the estates formal gardens are exceptionally expensive to maintain so clearly it was decided some decades after that tragic accident they put the formal garden down to orchards of the all productive and less costly makes sense to me that's my theory so Troy isn't really occupied substantially by members of the Sunset family other than for hunting and fishing on the nearby river Y and eventually it's auctioned in 1901 along with lots of other properties in London show and eventually they sell it it's sold to an order of French nuns escaping religious persecution in France and within living memory it's known that they have run the house as a school for girls and more than boredom and in the 1960s on the east side of the house where that ancient eccentric garden existed they did some hard landscaping they created an eccentric garden with rockers and curvy parts and I wanted to know is this actually right on the footprint of that ancient eccentric garden so what do you think I did and that over there so here's the river dropping and I've used that as a location mark along with the house forward to overlay the 1712 land of this area with a modern OS map there's the house and the farmhouse behind it here's the nuns eccentric I hope you can see that from the back and tracing it out of the mark and now here's the ancient eccentric garden it stretches much further out towards the trophy comes back there's the eccentric of the denoun then when it returns it's returning behind what we now call the farmhouse and this is what that ancient eccentric would have looked like you could see that today because we've got a book that contains this etching this is Stansted drawn and then turned into an etching at the end of the 17th century here's the eccentric garden it's even got shoulders on the little building there like one in Troy fountain but predominantly still very formed and then just as Gilmore showed Troy at 1712 there's another new tree stretching out into the wider landscape so again here's a reconstruction so from the research I've done this is what it would have been like walking through the formal garden before that tragic accident and the house seems to be occupied by members of the family so I'm walking away from the house formality but on a much bigger scale than during the Tudor period I wonder if the fountain was worked by the conduit house system to get the force the pressure needed and then at the midpoint of the denoun we've got land on the trees as shown by Gilmore stretching out towards the river Trophy and picking up the distance beyond and as we swing around with back at the house the east elevation of the house some of these walls still exist and I know that because of the map over there and getting the scales adjusted and what was fashionable at the time before that tragic accident late 17th century hedging material turned into little buildings some of the garden buildings this difference in level still exists to this day and before the nuns built a chapel in this position within living memory it's known that there was a garden entrance there and then what I have got time to tell you about is the map regression comparing maps across time and surveilling this area I know that there was a water parter here but not a complicated one like 17th early 17th century by the end of 17th century they tended to be just stretches of water this gives you hopefully an idea of the scale of the barn all these walls still exist that's where the orchards were on the plan and then as we come to land down here that's what the front of the house looked like it was stuck out originally and this poor colours is the emblem of the juice of both foot which because it's in danger of illiterating people was changed to a statue of the virgin marriage to exist the house has not been occupied for at least three decades now but to them is the main family seat and I have little to say about it because there's so much written about it and researched on it and we have got some evidence for you to look at at the end of this talk large body of evidence however even though Udminton House where family letters key pieces of information are kept in their archives there's very little that predates the 17th century it might well ask why so much is damaged and lost during the Civil War but there are limited etchings and paintings of Udminton and its estate its gardens and its design landscape there are garden plants and plant lists accounts and diaries lettered written by various people after they visited and more recently loads of photographs this is a lovely picture of Udminton on this side if you are very carefully you can see that there are bones here so this was the location on the bowling cream most likely at the beginning of the 18th century certainly late 17th century um this one which we can't date accurately to 1699 though the cream is here this is so typical for fashions of the tale late 17th century between fountains I decided the front elevation of that house and there because we've got deer here deer were allowed to come and be close to the house as indeed they are today and this is a plan that you'll be able to see in the volume that contains it Britannia Bear Strata of the formal gardens around the house the house is just here imagine the expense of maintaining that but then Henry I of Beaufort when this was created by him at his wife the first studies in Henry he was the second richest man in England the first king and this is a plan of the gardens at the time this is Cectic Udminton and I've outright part of it in blue so I can enlarge it to show you the writing we've got the garden and kitchen garden there we've got grass a pond and underneath here it says current garden so these are all seven rows of white black and red colors the church is here dwarf trees is written here and up here we've got the melon garden that's just part of the plan in Britannia, Britannia Bear Strata we've got another a chain of button and where the house is here there are formal gardens and then it shows all of that surrounded by these avenues of trees that would have been used for riding along but also symbolically have meaning in that badminton has influence throughout the nation it's a cosmologically inspired garden this design landscape similarly anyone anything of substance always finds its way it's the center of what's happening in the late 17th century of course there are issues in bit of technology I think it looks much better much better than it's colored because then it can cover up the areas of woodland you can see the writing better so we've got a deer park here there red deer we've got a thalo deer park here another red deer park here a Warren down here and I think the rides show up better I'll get to do a video reconstruction with them well I hope from what I said that you've got perhaps a better idea of how garden historians research gardens histories


everybody welcome to this presentation on the Jenkins external fingerprint storage project. This was one of the Jenkins eShark projects this year. I had some amazing mentors so Oleg, Andrey and Mike helped me along all the way along. So for today's presentation I'll be starting off with a small personal introduction. Then I'll be talking about what exactly is the Jenkins fingerprinting engine, what are fingerprints. Then I'll talk about the external fingerprint storage API that we developed during the course of this project. And then I'll talk about some of the plugins that are ready for the community to use and some information about them. Following that I'll be showcasing a demo which will show the usage for how to use these plugins and following that we'll have a small Q&A. So I'll start off with a personal introduction. I'm Sumit. I was the user student for this project. I'm currently pursuing a bachelor's in engineering. I started contributing to Jenkins in December 2019 and I made some contributions around the Jenkins fingerprint engine which ultimately led me to be interested and taking part in this wonderful project. So I'll start with the Jenkins fingerprinting engine and what exactly fingerprints are. So fingerprints inside Jenkins, they are nothing but a way to track the usage of artifacts or files across the entire Jenkins, you know, different jobs and builds across the entire CICD flow and that makes dependency tracking easy. So to take a small example here, say team A builds an artifact, you know, aid or jar and team B is building, you know, bead or jar and bead or jar consumes aid or jar and team B finds, you know, there is some issue in aid or jar and they report it to team A. Now team A needs to find out exactly which version of aid or jar is team B using. So this is one of the use case for fingerprints and they can easily, using the thing Jenkins fingerprinting engine, they can find out that team B is using which version of aid or jar so they can, you know, fix the bug. So I'll show a live example of this usage inside Jenkins. So here I have a Jenkins instance configured with two jobs, a job A and job B, just like I talked about in the example. So if I configure a build for job A, I can go and see that the build that was created, I can see it's fingerprints. So I can see that it has fingerprint recorded the fingerprint for one file, which is aid or jar. And I can see its usage is across Jenkins. So I can see that it's only been used in build aid of job A. Now if I go back and I start a build for job B, which actually consumes aid or jar, and then I go to see which fingerprints were recorded, I can see that it's recording the fingerprint for aid or jar, whose original owner was just job A's build aid. I can see the usage history for this, and I can see that, you know, this particular artifact was, it's used in job A's build aid and job B's build aid. So that's how across, that's how the fingerprinting engine in Jenkins is allowing me to, you know, view this usage of aid or jar across the entire CICD flow. So that was a small live example for Jenkins fingerprinting engine. And I've discussed the, you know, I've shown the fingerprints UI, this UI inside Jenkins. So now I'll be talking about what was the motivation behind what we did in this project. So currently, so before this project was created, it was, you know, we took all this over. The Jenkins fingerprinting metadata was stored inside the local disk storage of Jenkins home. So it was stored as XML files. And it has its, it had its own set of disadvantages that as the number of fingerprints increase, the disk storage of Jenkins also, you know, takes more space. And, you know, you cannot configure pay as you use cloud storages that are, you know, much cheaper these days.  And last of all, each Jenkins instance is storing the fingerprint metadata for only the, for its own fingerprints. So, so say if you have multiple Jenkins instances and you want to track this usage across Jenkins instances, there's not a common store for all these fingerprints. So with these concerns in mind, we built the external fingerprint storage API in Jenkins core. So the idea behind this architecture of pluggable storage is that Jenkins core provides this external fingerprint storage API to plugin developers and plugin developers can then, you know, build storage specific plugins. So say they can be a latest fingerprint storage plugin or any, you know, say Postgres fingerprint storage plugin. And the users can just install this plugin, they can configure their own instance. And just, you know, after that, all these fingerprints start getting stored inside the external storage. So that was the idea behind this API. And also, you know, that a single such storage instance can act as a store for multiple Jenkins instance fingerprints. This idea of externalizing a component for inside Jenkins, you know, it's a wide initiative inside Jenkins to make Jenkins cloud native. So there are other stories also, for example, externalizing the storage of configuration files, blogs, etc. And, you know, I can view these all on the cloud native page, the cloud native site page. So I'll be briefly touching upon the external fingerprint storage API. So if you are, if you would like to know the various design decisions we took, so there's a Jenkins enhancement proposal, the JEP 226, which highlights those in detail. We create and introduce this API in Jenkins core 2.242. And since then we have been consistently upgrading it, improving it, and even so up till Jenkins 2.253, something related to fingerprints has been going out. So apart from the basic methods that this API offers, you know, like loading, saving, deleting these fingerprints, there are some other features also that it offers. So those I'll be discussing in the following slides. But if you are, if you would like to, you know, get to know more about the methods that API offers, feel free to refer to the Java doc that contains some more information on this. So as I said, one of the features that we also implemented that this API offers is fingerprint cleanup. So we introduced this facility in Jenkins core 2.248. So basically what happens is that as you know, these builds inside Jenkins get deleted, this fingerprint metadata might get obsolete, and these fingerprints need to be cleaned up, or they'll keep consuming extra space. So that's the cleanup facility. And there's a job that runs in Jenkins daily to clean up these fingerprints. So we extended the dysfunctionality to Jenkins external fingerprint storage API, so that external storage plugins can perform and configure their own fingerprint cleanup strategies. So we offer these some methods in the API for plugin developers, which they can use to, you know, allow users to configure cleanup, and they can implement it in the most efficient way possible because the API is generic enough. So for example, the latest fingerprint storage plugin uses cursors to traverse all the fingerprints and clean those up. So that's how the latest plugin does it. Also, you know, we understand that it might be the case that this performance overhead just does not make sense if the storage is very cheap. So in the fingerprint section inside, when you configure this configure fingerprints, go ahead and disable fingerprint cleanup. So users can do that if they feel that it's just not worth the extra performance overhead. So that is also that something we left up with users. Another feature that this API offers is fingerprint migration. So we introduced fingerprint migration in Jenkins 2.251. So what fingerprint migration does is that for those users who already have fingerprints on their local storage, Jenkins core automatically takes the task of transferring these fingerprints to the newly configured external fingerprint storage. But we do not do that in one go. So as so, you know, there might be a large number of fingerprints and it does not make sense to, you know, from a performance standpoint to do this in one go. So we implement a lazy migration strategy. So as and when these fingerprints get used, they get migrated to the new configured external storage. So this allows gradual migration of all fingerprints from local storage to the new external storage. Okay, so lastly, I'll be talking about some of the external fingerprint storage plugins that are available for the community to use. The first one that we developed during the course of this project was the Redis fingerprint storage plugin. So it's currently, the latest release for it is 1.0 RC3. And it can be installed directly via the update center. So all the instructions for how to use it. So these are all available and you can even use jcask to configure it. Also, the GitHub page is also linked. So we appreciate everybody, you know, giving it a try and letting us know the valuable feedback on this plugin. It supports both migration and cleanup. So that's about the Redis plugin. So after building the Redis plugin, what we realized is that Redis, so these fingerprints were getting stored in Redis as blobs. So all this fingerprint metadata was not queryable. So with that in mind and, you know, to define a relational structure to this data and allow powerful querying strategies, we, and also because Redis was an in-memory database, we decided to build the Postgres fingerprint storage plugin. So the latest release for that is the 0.1 alpha 1. It's at the moment, it supports migration but not cleanup. It allows powerful querying of this fingerprint metadata and especially there's something called as a fingerprint facet that exists inside fingerprints. So plugins can add some extra information inside fingerprints using facets. So that is also queryable. So for example, the Docker traceability plugin tracks the usage of Docker images and you can actually trace these across multiple Jenkins instances via the Postgres plugin. At the moment, you have to have knowledge of the database to actually, you know, write these queries but this has actually opened up a huge potential for other plugins to consume this facility and offer this right out of the box to the users. So we also appreciate everybody trying it out. At the moment, you can only install it via the experimental update center because there's only been an alpha release but, you know, give it a shot. Let us know. Finally, I'll be moving on to the demo. So, all right, I have my Jenkins instance here. So what I'll be doing is I'll create a new job. All right. Okay. I'll create a new job and I'll add a build step. So it's a very simple job. So what it does is that I'll echo the world and create an artifact that would be, say, demo.jr and I'll add a post build action that is to record fingerprints. So this way I can record the fingerprint of demo.jr. I'll hit apply and I'll hit save. At this moment in this Jenkins instance, I have a fingerprint storage plugins installed but I don't have them configured. So what I'll do is I'll hit a build for the Redis demo first and I'll see what fingerprints got created. So it's recording the usage of demo.jr in build one but so, okay, so you can see this editor also, right? Just to make sure. Yes. Awesome. So if you see that it's actually storing this particular fingerprint as an XML file inside Jenkins, right? So what I'll do is I actually have a server, a Redis server here and at the moment it has, it's empty, right? So now what I'll do is I'll show how to configure the Redis fingerprint storage plugin. So I'll go to manage Jenkins. I don't want to, I don't have to install the plugin because I already have it installed. I'll just go to configure system and go slow down to the fingerprint section. So as I discussed that here is the, here's the checkbox which allows, you know, enabling and disabling the fingerprint cleanup. And here's the fingerprint storage engine drop down. So I'll be choosing the Redis fingerprint storage. Here I can configure host, port, SSL, database, connection timeouts, output timeouts and credentials if any. Once I have that all in place, I can just hit the test Redis connection and it gives me a success. That means it's able to connect to my Redis instance and I'll just hit apply and I'll hit save. And now the Redis fingerprint storage should store the fingerprints. So what I do is I'll hit the build, I'll hit on the build for this job and let's see what fingerprint it created. So demo.js usage has been recorded in builds one and build two. Now if we go here, you can actually see this fingerprint got automatically deleted from the local storage. I have another fingerprint but this is not the Redis one. It's the one I showed at the live example. But if I go and hit my Redis instance, I can see that this fingerprint is now getting saved inside my Redis instance. So this is the Redis demo fingerprint that got stored as a blog inside Redis. So this is what I meant when I was talking about fingerprint migration. It automatically migrated this fingerprint from the local storage to the external storage. Lastly, I'll also show how to use the postgres plugin. So I can go again configure system. And then the fingerprint section, I can choose postgres this time and I can configure the details. So I have a database named demo already and I can add credentials for it. So just a disclaimer that if you have created a database on your own, the users have to create it on their own and the rest of the plugin can after that use it. So if I hit test connection, I get a success. But I also need to hit perform postgres screen initialization so that the schema gets created inside my database. I got a success. So now what I can do is I can hit apply and I can hit save. So now, so also another side note that ideally we should not be configuring multiple storages at the same time. So I mean, just configure one external storage and then use it. But for the demo, I'm actually changing it to the postgres one and I'll hit build for it. And let's see that the fingerprint was recorded properly. Yes. And if I go to my postgres interface, I can see that inside the demo database, there is a fingerprint schema that has a table for fingerprints. And I can see that it's recorded the fingerprint which I asked it to. And it's storing all this information like which instance created this fingerprint, what's the file name, which job originally created this fingerprint. And if I go to the table job build relation, it actually stores which jobs and builds are used to this fingerprint. And the facet relation table stores the facet uses. There is a phase three post that I've also linked in the presentation. It highlights some of the common queries that you can use to query this database. And essentially facets, jobs, builds and anything can be queried. And if you have multiple Jenkins instances configured, then you get all this information across Jenkins instances. So that's a great use case. And maybe this should in the future, plugins can use it and, you know, write off a title to box to users. Finally, next steps. So contributions are always welcome. We hope that more plugin developers will come in. They'll implement this more most different, these plugins for more different storages. Team up is currently not offered by postgres. Once we implement that, we can go ahead with the RC release for it. And we discussed some optimizations that can be made to the API. So, you know, there's some work we could do there. Otherwise, we appreciate, you know, everybody to try these plugins out. Feedback is always valuable to us. And if you have certain use cases that we could help you out with, we'd be happy to look into them. Before I move into QA, there's some links also. I'll share this slide deck on the project page also. And also before I move into Q&A, I would like to, you know, thank my mentors, Oleg and Mike. I think they put in a lot of effort that, you know, helping me out. We had long design discussions. Ultimately, I think that made me a better programmer also. And it was a great summer. And, and definitely the org admins for Jenkins have been a great job in, you know, this entire program. Really thankful to them. And I look forward to, you know, contributing more and for the years to come. So thank you. And I'll open it for any Q&A. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So yeah, we are going slightly over time. We have another presentation and we have 20 minutes left. But yeah, let's firstly answer a question from Ulia. Are there plans to pull the external storage API up to the Jenkins core? So not every plugin that wants to use an external storage needs to create individual plugins to publish, read it, read this, et cetera. So I guess the question is about external storage, not about external fingerprint storage. Will you just correct me if I'm wrong? I need to go on voice permissions to order. Okay. Yeah. Yes, it's in general. So not only for fingerprints, it would make sense to have it in general. So if I want to use it in the warnings plugin, I currently need to write an own plugin for Postgres and so on, which seems a little bit too much plugins. So would you repeat the question? I can actually find the question. Sorry. Yeah. So Ulia was asked whether there is a plan to have generic external storage API. So not just for fingerprints, but basically for any type. I think as far as my understanding goes, there is a database plugin inside Jenkins, which you can use for configuring databases from one place. But I think even when JCASC also and other, I think for the Amazon S3 artifact manager. So all these plugins and all these Jebs are looking into externalizing different components of Jenkins and each of them has a very different design that needs to go into it. So I think this is happening at the moment in the cloud native sick on a more like a per feature basis. But yeah, I mean, if we can actually make it generic, that would also be amazing. Yeah. Also, if you take a look at the pluggable storage page in cloud native sick, you can discover that there is there are stories for generic built results storages. So basically for run metadata, including call actions, like warnings in G plugin reports. So there is interest to have such a generic layer and the work done by Smith basically opens a way for us, I would say to use radius because the same implementation could be used to serialize data to extract the data. And we could start building that soon. It really depends on the contributions. But that is actually why we have enough information and fingerprint storage is additional source of information for us so that we could do it right. Is there any comments from the mentors of this project? Okay. So Mike is currently not able to speak. He said that Sumit did a great job and the demo went really good. So thanks to Sumit. And now it comes from me. Yeah, it was a really great project and Sumit did a lot of things which we originally didn't plan. So we were way ahead of the schedule. I would say that the key functionality was delivered during the first coding phase. We had reference implementation, which was fully operational by the middle of the second coding phase. And it's not an easy project fingerprints part of the Jenkins core. So it means that there are much strict delivery cycles also Jenkins enhancement proposal. It's a part specific to the Jenkins core and evolution. And I would say that Sumit did a really good job while preparing the plan, documenting the plan, preparing formal specification for Jenkins enhancement proposal and also communicating with Jenkins core maintainers team and with other plugin maintainers. So yeah, there are a lot of people involved and also these implementations are quite complicated on the technical side, but still plugins have, for example, integration testing, which involved tools like test containers. So for me, it's a completed project with a lot of value delivered to the Jenkins community. And as I said before, it also builds foundation for future pluggable storage development in the project. And yeah, personally, I think that this project is a total success. And hopefully we'll be able to finalize it to find the asset of the JEP and to make an EPI public with an Excel CS baseline. I believe everything is in place. So it's just a bit of the Jenkins developer, my increased discussion. So thanks a lot, Sumit. Thank you.


Hi, I'm Sean Quinn from Highland Radio. Today I'm on to talk about the upcoming Letter Kenny Business Chamber Awards in 2022. I'm joined by Sinead Dooley, head of Public Engagement with Ergwit and Tony Forrester, the CEO of Letter Kenny Chamber of Commerce. Ladies, you're both very welcome. Thanks, Tony. Thanks, Sean. Hi, Sean. Tony, can I come to you first? What is the idea behind the Letter Kenny Business Chamber Awards? So, we've been running the awards for a number of years, obviously back with Bang this year having had to have two years off. And really the idea behind it is celebrating business and celebrating everything there is good about business. So, businesses trudge along all day, not trudge, they work their business all day, they work at it all day. And we felt that there was a space in Donegal to celebrate that achievement.  And all of a sudden it becomes this real thing. And when we always say as marketers over the years, I've always said, put your awards up on your website. So, when they get an award, they're very proud of it. And even getting through part of the process of it makes this achievement really worthwhile. So, it's celebration, really, Sean. Yeah, and I suppose it's always great to celebrate success and progress. And talking of progress, so we've gone through the nomination stage and it's now closed and it's been shortlisted. And we come to the exciting part, which is the voting. So, tell me more about the voting process and how that works. Yeah, so we have got the category down to three nominees who will go through to the final. So, as a bit of engagement and to get best out of this opportunity for our businesses, we open a poll on each category. So, over the next week, two weeks, we will go through each category on our social medias and Highland social media. And anywhere we can get the news out there and attached to each of those will be a poll. So, you can vote for the people you like the best and you'll be able to vote. You only vote once a week. You'll be able to vote and just who you like the best and you vote in all categories. So, it's really, it injects a bit of fun, injects a bit of engagement. And it also contributes a little bit to the winner. But we also wait, we have to wait that obviously. You know, you can't just let public because somebody who's good on social media will get big, big polls. So, we wait a little bit. And then we look at those about a week before the closing, the event, and see who's top the polls. But it's really good for our engagement for all the businesses who went to the border of applying. Yeah, that sounds great. And what we'll also do is we will use Highland Radio to encourage people to go on to the social channels to vote. But we will make it clear that you can only vote once because I'd be party to maybe voting a couple of times with my friends. But don't say anything there. We'll keep that between us. Sinead, Ayrgood have become the principal sponsor for the Lettuce Chamber Awards in 2022. Why did you decide to support the awards this year? Yeah, I'm delighted to join yourself and Tony for this today as well. Going back to what Tony said, it's the awards celebrate the very best of business in Donegal. And I suppose it gives recognition to local businesses, showcases their success and gives them an opportunity to show how ambitious they are. It's been a tough couple of years as we know for businesses across the country and communities. And in Ayrgood, we understand the importance of supporting local economies and communities and businesses. And out there at the heart of everything we do. So look, it's important for businesses to celebrate their achievements. Too often we all look at the negative of life. I'm really looking forward to the event itself and to see all of the talent coming through. But it is nice to acknowledge the achievements and we're just delighted to be able to be involved and support these awards in whatever way that we can. So we're delighted to be involved here, Sean. Yeah, it's great to have you. And I know that I was my partner, but I helped in the Citizen Roadshows that you did earlier this year in Donegal. And you got great crowds for that. It was phenomenal. And it was a great opportunity for you to talk about what Ayrgood are doing. How can these events create a foundation for more recognition of the work that Ayrgood do in the community? Yeah, and I suppose, and you're right. The first word to use was partner. And you were a partner in it. And I think local radio are hugely important, be it the promotion of Letter, Kenny Chamber of Commerce or what they're doing are certainly in promoting of the events that we had held in Donegal. Yeah, which is fantastic. And I suppose the community field and business field, Tony, is one of the biggest reasons why the Business Awards have been successful over the years. And they're well established at this stage. Just remind me of some of the categories that people can win on the 11th of November. Yes, we have a big wide range. We have 12, and we have 14 awards, but we've 12 category ones that we talk about. And I suppose I pick out ones that are always really popular, business excellence. And that can be anything, but mostly it comes down to how people manage the business. And it's usually a business that's, you know, a bit more mature, that's growing. And they know how to get the best out of everything in their business and their processes are good. We have a one that we really like, the community one best health, past community health and wellbeing initiative. And that's all around how we improve the health of our community. It's great the way I was to get back into a room, and we'll go into that in a little bit later. Sinead, just to agree to sponsor the Sustainable Superstar category. Do you think your involvement as a brand in this particular category will encourage businesses to consider energy, security, and the part that they can play in the sustainability of the future energy needs? Yeah, I know, I suppose we're given our role in delivering such as the cleaner energy future and working up towards 80% of electricity coming from renewable energy by 2030. Like we'd obviously love to see others play in their part too. So businesses these days are making the change and to be more sustainable, both for climate purposes, but also for energy reasons. So in supporting these efforts, it's great to be especially involved with this category. That's great. And Tony, just a good look, let's move forward now to the actual event. So tell me more about the actual chamber the evening on the 11th of November. What's going to happen? What can people look forward to? Okay, so we'll have our lovely drinks reception. It should come in. It's a black tie event. So it's a glamour and glitz. So we have seen some people in socials around here saying, I'll have to get a guy, I'll have to get a guy. So we always enjoy that part of it. And once we go in, we have dinner, lovely dinner in the my garden tail, and then we'll start the awards. So we just go through them fairly rapidly, the 12th and then the last two. We'll have a few speeches and our sponsors will be acknowledged. And at the end, it's really just the celebration. And then there's a bit of dancing. No, not everybody knows that. It's not just speeches and talks and awards. So it's a bit of dancing, a bit of fun. And we always try and have, it's an important celebration for us. It's an important night for us. You know, we do have sessions and people like that come. But at the end of the day, this is about the businesses enjoying themselves and people bring their staff and people bring, you know, their friends and family. And if we can enjoy that. So we'll go on to the art usually. So I don't know if we even know how to go out anymore. What you're saying to me here basically is I have to go and hire a suit and I've got to go and get dancing lessons. Is that right? And clean your high heels, John. And clean what? Clean your high heels as well. We're back in the high heels for the night. Well, I'll leave the high heels to you two ladies now in fairness. Yeah. It sounds as though it's going to be a great night, Tony. Yeah, the other thing, Sean, is all our categories are sponsored as well. You know, so they all get to showcase themselves in the evening. The other thing, and I mean, I think people, we've all forgotten. I mean, in terms of the last couple of years that we've had, the businesses and families haven't had as many opportunities as they would have in the past to go out, be it Christmas lunches or Christmas dinner, everything was put on hold. So in terms of giving us a plug, Tony, I'd be saying to every business in Donegal, it is a great opportunity to bring out your staff to acknowledge how difficult they've had over the last number of years. And I also, from being at those events, I love where, you know, your business personally here in your hall of fame to see families coming back together. I know they obviously know a little bit in advance. So that is a lovely opportunity because normally, a lot of people who've contributed hugely to society in terms of, you know, employment and contribution to the society. So it really is a lovely chance to see all of the family getting together to acknowledge one of their own, and Sean said earlier, for your peers to acknowledge it is the key thing here, that you're, you know, for anybody else to say it, but for your own people in the area to vote for you to be the best business on the night is a huge, huge attribute. If busy a few weeks ahead, you're going to visit and in the shortlist is businesses. I want to wish you and the judges the very best of luck in the coming weeks. It's no mean feat trying to decide on the winners in each category. I don't envy you. I'm glad I'm not part of that process. Sinead, I'm sure Tony will join me in thanking you and Ergud for your support. And we look forward to hearing more about the plans and opportunities of Ergud. You have in the coming months and years. And we look forward to welcoming you in person to Donny Gall on Friday the 11th of November. And I think it will be a celebration, a brilliant night of entertainment. So for this, Tony, Forrest are the CEO of Leading County Chamber of Commerce. Thank you for joining me. And Sinead Dooley, Head of Publications with Ergud. Also, thank you for joining me. Before I go, just to let people know that tickets are available for the business awards at info at leadingcountychamber.com. And Tony, is there a phone number that you can ring as well at 07-4? I'm 1-2-4-8-6-6. And come in early and buy early and you're guaranteed to have a seat on the evening. Ladies, thank you for joining me. Looking forward to see you then. Thank you so much, Sean.