Here here present. Yes present. Yes That is by our heads gracious creator for your loving kindness For your tender mercies that continue to shower us with blessings We thank you for this gathering today We simply ask that you might continue to allow us to make those decisions that are needful beneficial and That residents of this city might feel that sense Bless us individually and yet bless us collectively We ask it claim it in your name City council discussion item number one the pilot program on anti-violence efforts the honorable Daniel J Recommend me. This is just an update on and We talked about the gangs in peace Program and looking at doing a pilot program and we we talked about the funding source We do have the 28,722 dollars from unclaimed funding that came in That I would like us to consider to put towards the pilot program. There is some community match Money that will be coming in with that which then would allow not only participation for those kids and those youth and the designated communities that are in the proposal but also would cover the Transportation which is the most important. I wanted to bring it up for any further discussion or questions so that we could sit or Putting it on the agenda to approve the pilot program so that we could really See how a long-term program would work With this and this is just one part of it There are multiple meetings going on with several other groups in our community about supporting the program So it's not you know just on the city But I do think it would help if we could try it over the next three months to see the participation How it works and see if it's something that we want to consider long-term There was the proposal the gangs in peace proposal that y'all all received several weeks ago Yes There's 12,278 kids in the city. We're not talking about covering all those We're really focused on Three of our troubled neighborhood Neighborhoods where we could have some opportunity, which is the colony north point and they very mused About 200 kids that would be included in the program we're talking about Total of like 30,000 over three months 28 coming from us that covers transportation plus The basketball program which is after school and in the evenings Where the facilities? They're on Broad River Road That's totally no Nope We don't have a facility in the city to handle the volume But that's totally yeah, they're residents of that the target neighborhood had been the colony Baybury Muse and North Point So the twenty eight thousand dollars would go It's a reimbursable remember it's all reimbursable three months. Yes, sir Is that gonna be sufficient enough to well? There's some other there's some other funding after that Well after that, you know that becomes the question I think this is an example of where we need to pilot programs so that we can understand all we get in the participation our People continuing to do it on a steady basis is are we reaching all those kids without making because original ask as you know Was for a year-long program at 275 thousand dollars Some of that was related. There's about 30,000 in that I believe that went to Working with kids at the elementary school level at Richland one But I believe that's a rich on one ask not a city of Columbia ask I know that as part of The county's twenty million dollars that they're putting out in groups. They're taking applications. This is one that's been put in They're asking the county for for two hundred thousand dollars to cover the kids that they they have Have documented that they will work in those certain neighborhoods in the county So the program will include the entire twenty eight thousand dollars With the possibility of partners coming in at some point Yes, we know there's two non-profits that are committing to some funding to help Balance it out because I think the ask was really around it would have been close to thirty six out thirty seven five I think was a to cover that period of time and that's being made up by outside groups Mr. Mayor, I think this is a wonderful use of funds just what are some of the milestones in your opinion that that would Show that this is a successful path forward to ultimately, you know going out and getting private contributions to continue This program I think part of it Councilman Brennan is is how many kids we get to participate how many times they participate Because there's not only after school, but there's evening and late night, you know on the weekends I think the Participation piece is the biggest piece that I hope because that's being provided as well and built in where others Or always peace-mealing and trying to make it happen I think our milestone would be as if we have targeted 200 kids. How many of those kids do we get? I mean, obviously if we can get over a hundred kids participating on a consistent basis then we've made an impact there now Obviously, we're only paying for the kids who participate not for the kids who don't participate That's why it's a reimbursable which is being funded on the front end and then we'd go back So I think I think our ultimate goal is to to build up the number So that we have a consistency because the next phase in this would be conflict resolution kind of day camps There's also a spring ball soccer They also have baseball programs and then there's some off-site camp where they want to take some of kids That may be more challenged to to give them an opportunity to go through some more one-on-one with Community-based leaders not so much and and the idea is to build it up so that It becomes part of a community activation where the business community individuals and others are really it's not a government program I'm very well thought out. Thank you So anyway, I just wanted to get some feedback. Yeah, miss herbert. Sorry um I just wanted to add And I know I'm bishop davis We he hates when I tell this story that we used to do plays back when I was 19 years old Um, we yesterday yesterday correct correct Um, but even and I have had this discussion with him So I don't have an issue with with making sure my position on this is clear Um, I do believe that it is a great program But because it is not located in the city And because I do think we have to be careful cherry picking different projects to fund We had another application or Proposal that was submitted So I have basically two different groups who Have evidence-based programs that are doing well Who are you know, both asking the city for money and it puts me in a precarious situation To pick or choose, you know one or the other so, um I would prefer that we have a process so that other organizations Um can be considered. I will tell you that But interestingly Tuesday, um, I wasn't here last Tuesday, but someone texts me that was at The city council meeting asking me where did the city find funds? And can we you know, can we approach and can we ask because we're doing x y z And I explained to them what that was a specific and it's a specific pot Um, but for those reasons, um, I cannot support Um giving these particular funds in this fashion to this group And I just didn't want anybody to be surprised when I did that We appreciate your opinion. We'll continue to march on or any other questions So may if the process roars after today you will put this on the agenda for September 26th That'd be the 20th 20th. I'm sorry I have a suggestion that might help council lady Herbert's concern Didn't we put $800,000 in the budget for an anti-violence program? You all haven't voted on the mayor's So gun violence your proposal was around $800,000 for anti-violence which is not enough, but it's a start It's over three years now. Remember it's not a one year Well, uh, I was thinking that since Serving connect has gotten a nine hundred and sixty four thousand dollar Grant to do essentially the same thing that we could take that 800,000 and put it into A fund that would have some procedures to it to do programs like like this one To come I don't think serving connects actually doing what the gun violence program is going to do Which is quarterback and that's why we haven't made our full percent Presentation which we'll do I think I think we're scheduled for later this month Or the first week in October to show the quarterback But if you remember the what we put forth shows that's a coordinating office And the serving connect grant is only targeted to one zip code. It does not cover all the other areas It's very specific on what its charge is done by doj So it's not as simple as just cutting here and cutting there and taking there But I think some of that front those funds could be put into a more Um deliberately allocated Thing for anti gun violence instead of building another office I I think that with 18 growth and gun violence, and I think you'll find um The officers who are in there day to day are looking forward to to having that as a toolbox to help them So I would disagree with with that Um, but you know everybody has has an opinion And mr. Bear, I just would just say I kind of I tend to agree with miss harbert though I do think we have other people asking for For money the mayor of ermo was in here with a program himself and If we're going to do these things I do think there needs to be some type of Deliberation or how you weigh which ones you're going to do which ones you're not going to do And candidly for me Um Supporting the ones that are in the city it would be my number one party Well, I will remind everybody that when we asked to originally when I came up with the unclaimed funds and sent it Around and said that we wanted to help support the basketball league that they were That they were doing the initial reaction from this council was yes We never did it because we didn't get the funds and we found the funds Um I think it's a pilot program that we have to do and if y'all remember you put away $200,000 out of the arpa money for a process for other folks I think we've got to be able to look at some of these programs And pilot them to make sure they're successful before we have a long-term commitment I think this is a wonderful program. I appreciate the mayor from ermo sent it over a proposal But that proposal was dated From 2021 Um, it wasn't even a direct proposal to us. It was just another proposal that came to us So, I mean, there are still some work there for us to find the right shoe for that to fit in You know, I believe this is the right right move for us, but you know, it's up to council as a whole I I am only but one vote Well, mr. Mayor, mr. Mayor I can almost support this but I think there has to be some parameters set um Parameters in terms of I hear both my colleague saying In reference reference in the county issues and the distributions of city funds into the county I think you know that this whole issue of gun violence is Perpetual issue that's not going to go away until we deliberately Do something about this Um So yes, I can support this. I think that there needs to be some additional conversation in terms of partners and partnerships forming That are productive in some kind of way um I think that there has to be a deliberate conversation About whether it's $28,000 or whether it's a hundred thousand dollars Right now we don't have a process We just said that we were going to do this It would seem to me that because of the I want to say the urgency of gun violence in our city We've got to start this ball rolling somewhere Whether it be whether the county is going to buy into this somewhere down the road uh, we've Conversationally talked about this thing But can we collectively say this is what we're going to do to help curtail gun violence? um So yes, I can support that but I think that there needs to be some additional Mr. Mayor, I just wanted to make a full point of clarification. I was trying to help give a little guidance too So the way you all left the discussion With as far as the office of gun violence prevention and the 800 thousand plus Was due to be considered to come out of ARPA funds as well as 200,000 that you all would Consider out of ARPA funds for a process for Some type of process once you all decide what you want to do as far as any other You know initiatives that people would apply for with the notice of funds availability And that sort of things if you wanted it specific to gun violence efforts That and and you could do that we haven't brought the ARPA related funds back to you yet So that was your discussion, but you haven't that's not in place yet That would just be a matter of us bringing it back before the council to vote on that And then as part of your general fund You're already approved budget for this fiscal year. There's about 140 thousand dollars set aside To do a community promotions process like we described you all last time That could be neighborhood Revitalization grants or beautification grants or could be youth programs or whatever you all wanted to do You could say we're we're finally doing all of those things as long as there's a process and we would put out a notice of Funds availability for the community to apply and we I think we even talked about you might have a Ceiling for those grants up to 25,000 or whatever we decide to do to make the funds Go as far as they could so that's where you are as far as opportunities for funding outside of the 28 thousand dollars and 28,770 dollars and 22 cents. I believe that were identified from some treasure funding that we Were able to get reimbursed from the state And that's the funding that me or recommend is referring to which is separate from any of the other items. I just said so I just wanted to give you all some options and Well, we will need to bring that to you Although if you are moving forward with the notice of funds availability for the general fund community promotions We need to get some clarity from you on when you want us to start that process open it up I know there's one group mr. Brennan and I've talked about that's already submitted a request Need a little direction anyway for the agenda on Tuesday And if you're not ready to move this item forward for Tuesday that you know, we're That was why I think the mayor was putting it on here. So we wouldn't know Whether or not to put it on your draft agenda because you know, we're just cranking out agendas every week right now They're rolling So is there enough will for us to put parameters around and add this to the agenda or is the majority of council not prepared I can support it mr. Mayor because number one you found the money I didn't know that that pot of money was available. So I'm pleased to Is there any support to you since you found it And the other reason I can support it is that it's going to do the colony and north point and they are Two of our target areas And I think that even though the program itself might be across the city limits fund Is going to be having a positive input influence on our kids. So I'm willing to vote for it Mr. Mayor I would I would hope that we push this forward towards our agenda for the 20th Uh, I can support that Of course, uh having some cumbers additional conversation with my colleagues. I think it's Violence I hate to say it this way but violence is everywhere Whether it's in the city or in the county folk of dying and We've got to We've got to start this ball rolling some kind So, yes, sir. I would certainly support moving this to our agenda on september 20th I think my suggestion would be that we move forward with it on tuesday But framing in a way that still allows the public to understand what potential future opportunities there are to apply for funds and why we chose to make this exception or allocation to this group um And that type of transparency will help I think Build the case for the the urgency of this issue, but also being consistent about how and what we support in terms of community based funds We're just talking about three months worth of funding though Yeah, I mean you're gonna find the fourth and fifth and sixth month yet on this. Well, I mean part of the purpose Well part of the purpose of doing this is to have a pilot so we can see that the program Actually is working before we make a long-term investment and that's why it's a pilot That's the collection of data the consistency of the participation And then the expectation would be that they would go through a larger Formal process to be receiving more funding next Well, um I'm not saying that I could totally support but one of the things I think um, I could potentially consider Is that they are limited in this amount of money that they get because they're not in the city um, I think that it just setting the precedent of giving funds to organizations outside of the um City limits plus creating in them an expectation that they're going to get ongoing funding um, we'll just create um, some other issues, but I just throw that out for consideration. It's one time found money So we can treat it differently in an emergency situation But I would not want to leave the door open or give an expectation That the city will start because the county has 20 million or is it 2 million or That they've put out Yeah, so I mean and we barely have you know the 200 000. Are we the best people to take on that burden? Just go ahead. Mr. Brown. Mr. May. I support The consensus moving forward to the agenda and I want to make and I want to ask staff this citizens of the city of columbia are citizens of richland county So they have the opportunity those organizations have the opportunity to submit for that 16 million dollars If staff if you could check with the county and and confirm that That that Arpa money is available for organizations within the city of columbia That's something we need to be promoting as well. Just just wanted to make that note, sir For for the record to the proposal we got For the harvison area is a program that Works with kids in the city limit, but is actually not in the city limit as well So just point of reference. I just want to make sure that That as we we move forward in discussions, there's there's a criteria all the way around Would they consider annex? I think in general if this is a one-time special exception and it's a pilot and we're doing our part because two of the You know communities that are most plagued by violence are going to participate I think that's fine But I agree with the server that we can't set the precedent that because we invested now we're going to invest again Especially when we think about some of the policy decisions We've already made for example with food share and things that we decided not to fund because they're not in the city So food share has funding available for them I know but i'm saying that one of the major arguments that we heard about That was that we really want to focus on building up our within the city limits not necessarily, um, you know prioritizing things that may be outside of the city limits Gotta have a little balance though because the we did we certainly don't want to make sure that Is we work to partner in other areas that everybody realizes that we're trying to partner and collaborate so I appreciate thank you all for the feedback. We'll take care of getting the item on your agenda And that brings us to item number two, which is a presentation the consent decree and clean water 2020 program update Mr. Clint shealy our assistant city manager for columbia water And a whole team right clinton Okay, good afternoon Thank you all for the opportunity to speak with you just a little bit about our Where we are with our clean water 2020 program and consent decree compliance I want to introduce the the team that's with us. Of course our utility directors frank Director of utilities frank eskridge is with us and danahiggins our director of engineering from our team We've also got mr. Brian cully with cdm smith They're our lead consultant helping us with the program management and compliance with this consent decree And we've got our legal counsel and mr. Tommy lavender And this young heartly in the back and they're going to address it a little bit in executive session about some of the history and Legalities of the consent decree we'll start off today with um just uh Brian's going to come up and And talk a little bit about some of the more public facing things that are going to be happening in the near future Notifications on where homeowners have or we've noticed through some of the testing that we've done that they've got Faults or breaks in their private sewer laterals and the notification letters that go out There's nothing punitive with that But we are required by the consent decree to notify folks because That's a point where infiltration inflow can get into to our system and potentially create sanitary sewer overflows Then we'll talk about one of our favorite acronyms the sIRR which is the supplemental infrastructure rehabilitation report and that is another Mandated requirement of the consent decree that that brings a large list of projects that we'll have to do and in certain dates for compliance That has to go on public notice And so that work is just now being completed and it will be going on public notice soon So we wanted to talk with y'all about that Then i'll come and just speak in general about some work completed to date before we have the attorneys come up and And speak with us So Brian i'll turn it over to you to brief us on defective private sewer laterals and in the supplemental infrastructure rehab report Thank y'all very much for the opportunity to speak here today Here to go over two very timely topics related to the consent decree And the first one of those is going to be the defective private lateral So as we're out there in the system doing assessments and investigations, we're finding problems That's why we're out there and typically those problems are on the city-owned portion of the sewer system And so we can fix them occasionally We find problems on the private side of the sewer system and just to kind of highlight for anybody not familiar Sewer systems, you have your main pump line that the city owns and operates and then there's a sewer lateral that goes to the actual all museum six or four inch pipe Or six inch pipe that heads towards uh towards the house Once it leaves the right-of-way line and goes on to private property or the easement line That is then the homeowner's ownership Um, and so if there is a defect in there the homeowner is the one that needs to fix that the city does not maintain the private lateral And that's very common. That's all over south carolina Um, and so as we do that the consent decree requires us as we find these private lateral defects to notify the homeowner And so the city typically waits to we have a batch of those notifications ready to go out Puts a letter together and sends that out to the homeowner Requesting that they make the repair and that they notify the city that the repair has been made Now the threshold for what defines where we decide to notify the homeowner Is if the defect is bad enough that groundwater or rainwater can enter the system Which then can lead to inundation of the system or if the wastewater can leave that lateral That's kind of the criteria that we use Just to kind of give you an idea here's a photo of what one of those would look like So there's a a pipeline under the ground there and we're smoke testing And the defect is bad enough that the smoke is leaving the lateral and coming up to the surface of the ground. Yes, sir This is the third round of notifications and several years back now we approved the one of the letters that you were Drafting to send to these people two questions What was the response on the first round notifications? Did the people comply? And the second question is Is there a time limit for them to reply to you you go back and check to see if the Private lateral has been fixed Great question. There is no obligation to fix the lateral some entities will do that columbia has not taken that step They do ask that it be fixed within 90 days When the first round of letters went out we then issued a 90 day extension for those that didn't And no other follow-up was made at one point. I believe after the original 90 day window And don't hold me it might have been six months. Mr. Devall. I apologize. I should have brought that with me Um, I think we had five or six that responded out of maybe a hundred And so the response was not as favorable as we would have preferred Are the notifications batched by council district or by neighborhoods? I'm trying to think about the Council people here are in in november when you third send out the third round of notification Is it going to be in one district or another or is it going to be You're going to pick 10 out of each district Great question. They're batched based on the projects we've done since the last batch went out And so I'm going to go ahead and fast forward real quick and kind of show you the map So um, I'll make sure I don't leave the podium here. You can see the broad river Um, you got saluta river coming over here. So this is the saluta river basin There's several kind of batched up here near near our 20. There's some over in the broad river basin Crane creek area has a number and again this mirrors where we're doing projects We find the defects where we're looking for problems.  That's when we find the defects and that's why you see them bunched together in certain areas Mr. Councilman Taylor City of columbia To the homeowner and we do that there's a great discussion about that because you could have Renters that are there. We don't want them fixing the property that they don't own and so it goes to the official address of the property owner And like I said, you'll you'll see where they're batched. Um, I do have some detailed maps further back if you'd like But typically before these go out, um, I think it came from clint previously clint will send out a package They'll have a sample letter. It'll have a representative defect sheet We actually show them a photo of the defect So they'll actually get a piece of paper that shows that photo so they'll know where it is and they can follow up with a plumber Hopefully and be a little ahead of the game. It'll show that defect Uh, have the policy in there. Um, and we'll send that to you along with detailed maps of where these Uh locations actually are so you can look at street names and kind of figure out council districts and neighborhoods I would ballpark it somewhere between two to four thousand dollars Yes, sir Some may be less expensive, but if you got to assume it's a Crack down in the middle of your front yard at a pipe that might be two or six or seven feet deep Um, that's usually not a cheap repair Why pay that $59 a year for that? Don't bring it up home Don't get me started Yeah The important thing to know is look for that email from clint shealy before these go out and you'll see a sample of everything and um Like I said that map with the with the neighborhoods on it as well including street names so you can kind of identify that I look the biggest largest set of letters Are headed the lower side of the broad river I think that's councilman Um, here's the crane creek area if you want to see it the crane creek area Mr. McDowell, um If you go back to this Go back to the map. Yes, sir All right, the largest Letters that you're sending out on the other side of they're all in your district And I get through thank you, sir The largest set on the other side of the broad river 94 right here. Yeah, right an idea of location Blue Ridge terrace comes in about right here that road We have crane creek church road There's a detailed map I can we'll share with you If y'all'd like we can share those maps ahead of time or well before right they right before they go out But we're targeting early november want to get those out well before the holidays What's the average cost of a private citizen to fix something like this is that the resistance? Uh, yes, uh, it's not an expense of any plumber nowadays is very difficult to to get and then the costs are expensive I would ballpark it somewhere between 2000 to $4,000 It's uh, it's not not a small expense All right, I'm gonna move on to the second topic for today, which is the supplemental infrastructure Rehabilitation report. This is a very important report that has been years in the making It's going to be submitted to epa in november late november this year And prior to it going to epa for their review and approval It goes out for public comment And so we wanted to speak with you about it before it goes out for public comment We're targeting later this week to actually issue that out for the 30 day comment period Um, this report is is like I said, it's very important Does several things but the most important aspect of it is that it reports out on the Minor system so think of 8 and 12 inch pipes, which aren't real big They're less expensive to fix but they're approximately 90 percent of your system And so now that we've gone through a long period of assessing the condition of it We're now obligated to report to epa What we need to fix we have to follow the guidelines outlined in the consent decree of what that is So this document actually contains the list of projects that we will then be obligated to complete under the epa Correct the private ones are nowhere on any yes, sir. Absolutely And to confirm The epa will decide which one of those projects moves first and the time frame that goes in Correct because when you say obligating the city's significant, I mean we've identified that But epa actually decides which projects get prioritized in the time frame. They're supposed to be completed. It's correct With the supplemental infrastructure we have report. They're all in the same bucket There's an infrastructure. We have report that's the bigger pipes that has different buckets This one has a single bucket for the supplemental because they're all the small pipe fairly similar criticality the bigger pipes No, sir, we're in we have turned the report into epa and are waiting approval on the bigger pipes And we are moving forward with work on the bigger pipes just like you'll hear from clint in a minute We are moving forward with work on these projects as well. We haven't been sitting around not doing anything We've been working on several of the projects that are contained in this list But the list this list will go in and from epa's approval. We have five years To complete the projects. They have to be finished If they are not there's significant penalties per project We'll talk about that a little bit later But there are very significant penalties if we don't complete these within the timeline again There's five years from epa approval And the level of commitment in here when you take these projects and we estimate them We estimate the commitment of the projects in here at 220 million dollars This is a big deal. It's a big report We knew since the very first days of the consent decree This would be a very expensive report with the commitment and again The obligation is in the consent decree to do this. We're following those guidelines and this is this is what we have This is part of the original 750. Yes, sir. This isn't a new number. This is part of our original 750 Correct. If you remember when the 750 was initially envisioned back in 2013 I think we shared it with council in 14 right before the consent decree was signed We had to estimate what was going to be in this report. We didn't know what condition Columbia system was in so we had to make some very educated Estimates back at that time sort of guesstimates almost because we had very limited information of the system's Condition now we know it and this is this is a big day We can be very specific with the list of projects and the cost and so I would say this is in keeping with that Mayor rickman, but the good thing is is that we can be much more specific and have much more You know certainty about it than we did back in 2014 That the 220 million comes out of our rate base like the 750 is part of the 750 We we almost exclusively use cip projects to execute these These amounts Yes, sir We'll speak to that a little bit later because that was um given back in 2014 based on 2012 dollars and did not include inflation We'll talk through adjusting that number. I've got that for you today Should have been a fudge factor in there, right a little bit. Yes, sir. We'll talk about that a little later I remain Comfortable with the initial estimate. I'll leave it that for now. We'll talk more specifics in a little bit so Be that what the original 750 because we're using that number a lot was 2012 dollars no inflation factor at all. So all of it was in 2012 dollars Ryan you keep saying in a little bit. So on several items All right, well, we'll let Clint come up and do the easy part Back to um the the private sewer laterals when we do send those maps out We'll make sure the council district lines Boundaries are overlaid on those so you'll see which of your constituents may be receiving letters and how they're impacted A couple points. We'll flash a little bit of um information in terms of work completed. I wanted to highlight the the Just the fact that we haven't been resting on our laurels We even though projects are included in the infrastructure rehabilitation report or the supplemental report Capacity related projects. We've been working very hard and investing our ratepayers dollars in repairing our sewer system We had two areas along one along crane creek near interstate 20 and and one near lake kathryn that were chronic large volume sanitary sewer overflow Occurrences and that work is complete and so we're really proud of those investments that have been done and we've started you can see part of our Infrastructure rehabilitation and supplemental rehabilitation that we've got 11 projects already complete 27 in the works It's a long list, but we're working down that list and also working on capacity enhancing projects as well A couple of numbers just to share and I won't go through those in detail, but I think just really highlighting that our wastewater system is a is a major How we manage that's a major driver for protecting the environment public help. It's also a major economic growth engine You know, we're really proud of the system and and we've been good actors. We're in compliance. We've met every deadline to date and we've made Just substantial improvements in how we operate and maintain and manage The wastewater collection system. So i'm really proud of our staff. It's vastly Different than it was Whenever we approach the the consent decree We again, we've advanced projects very very quickly We're maintaining almost at 1100 miles of of pipeline And so we've taken a look at the vast majority of that line cleaned the vast majority of those lines and assessed the system We've gone a long way as brian was saying though Um It's really important that we've got this supplemental infrastructure rehabilitation report complete Because that paints more of a total picture I'd say today the picture of the road ahead is clear than it's ever been for us Brian used the term guesstimates earlier in 10 years ago eight years ago We were in that mode of having to guesstimate and y'all are in that mode of having to guesstimate is before I joined the party But right now the the path forward is much clearer than it's ever been So we're in a good point of we know what's ahead of us And that elephant that we've got to eat and the the obligations that we've got to meet So we're going to talk a little bit more about that. Yes, sir Can I ask a question on the pump station rehabilitation talk about 11? One of the ones that keeps and I don't know if it's tied in with the overall Crane creek, which is the Bentley road where we're still having to put containers out there to handle that Where are we in conjunction between the i20 The crane creek in in that Bentley road pump station We do have a pump station upgrades planned for that as well and some of the capacity improvements In our broad river pump station right above right above Bentley their major pump station and y'all approved a design contract Two meetings ago. I think to to invest in that station that's going to alleviate some of those problems and give us a more Resilient that's a large station that sits right on the broad rivers. It's really really a critical asset for us Is there any value as you're looking at that to consider Pumping that towards the broad river plant that the county has to relieve some of that long term Because that's a growing area and and I think you know people there hope it's going to be a growing area With re-investment as things are starting to come online Is that something we ought to be considering as we we look at this? Yes, sir. It's something that we have considered in the past and we're certainly open to considering that again I think the capacities that are available in richland county's treatment facility As well as the complexity of treatment the location of debt discharge with the location of our Water treatment intake is something that needs to be considered as well So certainly open to considering all those options of how we move Waste water throughout our collection system. Yeah, because if I remember that that plant is still under utilized This may this may be a long-term relief for us as a community. So It's something we should look at So it's good to hear the path forward is clear In the work left To meet the consent degree Be done without water rate increases to our customers. No, sir Well, I'm sorry. I I don't want to hastily answer that question. I would say um It depends on how long how long the capital improvement. Yes, sir I mean we'd be talking 30 40 50 years versus the the the requirements we can't do it in the the Current requirements of the consent decree in timeframes without considering some source of funding Yes, sir May I ask a question and of course We look at the effective and it's going back to the cost What's the implications and the impact on a senior citizen? What's the impact of a saint on a senior citizen? Whose property Is impacted by this kind of calamity that's happening on their property? We come up 2000 to $3,000 in repair work What would be the Will there be something To help those residents So if they have the private lateral insurance program, that's an assistance for them. Um, I'm sorry Councilman that that's an assistant For those who are interested in signing up. Yeah, how care that how we're gonna like to hear that hear that But it's it's critical for me That if a senior citizen has those kinds of issues In their property, how can we direct them? That cost is somewhere between two to four thousand dollars It's going to be virtually impossible for senior citizens to Assume that kind of uh, that kind of experience So if you went with a home service Oh, whatever We want to know I want to know What can we do To help someone But has that Yes, sir, if they've got the the private lateral insurance program that helps them Um, we were very strategic in not making our program punitive The consent decree requires us to notify homeowners And and we send the letters and and we ask them to to circle back with us whenever the corrections are made They do add extraneous flow to our system that um during The rain events can be problematic for us Currently, there's no fine structure. There's no Punitive action. There's no lien against property if they don't make the correction But We really need the homeowners to do their part in fixing their the part of the collection system that they own We recognize again, it can be a burden And so there's no fine if you don't do it But we really need our customers to fix their portion of the system when they can Sewage may be escaping into their yard, which could be a public health issue But more generally you see ground water or rain water seeping into the system that can then Potentially contribute to sanitary sewer overflows, which are a public health issue as well I'm sorry. I haven't directly answered your question council. No, you didn't Um the the thing that is critical I'm sorry I'm sorry. No, no, no, she was raising her hand for next So many sidebars around here. All right It's it's very critical. I think And I've seen two instances where I visited a piece of property There was a sewage issue smoke was Billing it billowing up out of the ground They contracted And decided to go with home service Over a period of time they had to pay for that Initially, but then they decided to go with home service and of course, um It would seem to me that we need to be very intentional About when we send a letter out that folk are given the necessary resources that they might be able to employ other than Entering that two thousand to four thousand dollar It And not having any resources at all It becomes it becomes very Volumous in terms of when sewage is seeping up out of the ground and on the yard So it would seem to me that there needs to be something in place That will give folk resources When that happens to them that they are able to No, you're good So this is really helpful and you know, I know we've been talking a lot about the different pieces and work that needs to be done to continue to address our Waste water side of things. I guess my question to you all is so what's next? I mean you mentioned the 30 to 50 year plan and how there's going to need to be Some source of funding, right? And that's an indirect way of saying we need to look at How we're raising revenue for um, you know Our water system and so I'd like to hear, you know, what are what are your suggestions for making sure that we meet You know the consent degree but also Stay true to some of our priorities on council in terms of not continuing to have to burden taxpayers with something that has been I don't know Kicked down the road for years now. We're now we're picking up the pieces being in office. What six seven months And clan I would encourage you to to because this is a newly seated council who's only been through one iteration of a budget cycle Not even necessarily from start to finish from my standpoint, but they will be And I think that'll become more clear to you doctor bustles The approach you'll always hear us talk about the 80 40 split and if we Handle water and wastewater in the way that we have always Because of the consent decree requirements Then scheduling out the Repairs that need to be made I think it'll it'll become probably more understandable to you as we go through this next budget cycle, but those are Just if we were to stay on track with what we've scheduled out to do There shouldn't be an issue like that planning has been done So we do have a plan doctor bustles and we're we're going to speak to that I wanted the attorneys to give you a little bit of context And what the the deadlines may look like moving forward as well But Clint is the Debra Livingston fund available for sewage lateral replacements? If not, we can make it That's a great question. That has been for Bills for for past due bills, but there is a fairly healthy balance in the Debra Christy fund and that's a That's a great suggestion. That is a great suggestion. And I think the staff had made Um In lieu of home server can we use I think the staff had made some recommendations that we implemented about the The um amount of the funds that maybe I had even said, I don't know let's wait But in that in this instance that might make sense. So thank you councilman Some parameters around it. Yes, sir Just a couple of minor things before we we close um and go into further discussion the um Just wanted to share that we've we've made some some staffing changes of our belt line facility, which is Kind of handling just think about anything outside the gate of a treatment plant with our two water treatment plants We're a waste treatment plant. Um, so we've had some leadership changes there And um frank's done a great job and that group is really coalescing and they're working very very well and cohesively Couldn't be more proud of the work they're doing. I think you you're starting to see a Downward trend in work orders and upward trend and being able to retain Staff and and being able to bring some new talent in We're utilizing contractors. You're seeing a little bit of a reduction in sanitary sewer overflows Um and and so that process is working and I also wanted to mention Tiffany couldn't be with us today Her uncle passed away she was she's attending a funeral, but Tiffany's a real star in our organization as well Heading up our customer care group the changes that we made in february have just been life changing for our call takers And our staff and I think for our customers. They've been just just very well received We're answering the phone now and are able to process those very quickly. So thank you for for allowing us to do that as well With that i'll i'll end and then um We can we can move to further discussion Thank you. Thank you client You've done a good job And your team has done a good job. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that decreasing the number of work orders You're doing a good job in You've done a good job in terms of uh Making sure that the general public knows exactly what we're doing and how we do that Um Thank you so very much. Thank you to give our compliments Certainly, we've got a long way to go, but I really appreciate that. Yeah, sir. Thanks. Thank you, sir Thank you client May recommend at this time if council is amenable we can entertain the executive session items Mr. Mr. May I make a motion and we go into executive session for receipt of legal advice related to matters covered by attorney client privilege pursuant to 30-4 as 70 a to clean water 20-20 program Discussion of negotiations innocent to proposed contractual arrangements pursuant to scco 30-4 as 70 a to fire services Is there a second Second We've got a motion and a second Roll please Yes Yes Yes Aye Aye


Now just when you thought that the Falcons veteran off-season additions had slowed to a stop GM Terry Fontenot makes another big move and this one is going to help out the Falcons defensive secondary because According to ESPN's field gates and several other reports the Falcons have acquired cornerback Jeff Ocuda in a trade from the Detroit Lions and per NFL Networks Tom Pelisaro the Falcons gave up just this Years fifth round pick to get the number three overall selection back in 2020 and now get this The Falcons now own the rights to AD Terrell and Jeff Ocuda both for first round draft picks from the same draft And while the Ohio State product has dealt with injuries during his time in the pros The man's talent is undeniable and you could start to see things ramp up for him in 2022 Which could suggest that 2023 is a breakout year for him because he could be going into a contract year Now while this deal is an official. Let's go ahead and ponder just for a second What Ocuda's addition could mean for this falcon secondary and if Ocuda joins the Falcons Look, there's no doubting that he increases the talent level on the back end And it's entirely possible that he ends up starting opposite ad Terrell in week one Now all that fancy stuff said Ocuda has to earn it because there's plenty of competition at cornerback Especially with Casey Hayward still in the mix and Mike Hughes just joining it now Both of those guys can also play in the slot which is going to be important now that Isaiah Oliver is a 49er But no matter how the training camp competition shakes out the Falcons are undoubtedly deeper and stronger in a secondary That's looking pretty good on paper right now And if Ocuda plays up to his vast potential this reported trade is a very big deal This has been a rapid reaction presented by Ticketmaster


Hello everyone, welcome to theCUBE's live coverage here in San Francisco, California, for VMware Explore, not VMworld. It's VMware Explore, I'm John Furrier, host of theCUBE with Dave Vellante. We're here with two sets. 12th year Dave covering VMworld now, VMware Explore. What a journey, I had a little reminiscing from Paul Moritz in 2010 who predicted the future, but the timing was off. Ragu predicting the future, but is his timing right with multi-cloud or super cloud? We're going to get into it. We've got three days of wall-to-wall cube coverage, two sets, all the top execs from VMware coming on, including the CEO Ragu himself, Vittorio, Kit Colbert, the whole kit and caboodle of the executive group to talk about the future of VMware, where it's going, and of course, the appearance of Haktan here from Broadcom, Dave made an appearance, Michael Dell was also in presence. I get the vibe that there's something going on with Broadcom and VMware beyond just the acquisition. So a lot of people are curious. This event, again, is notable and historic from the sense of it's VMware Explore, not VMworld, so they changed the name and Broadcom's intent and they're going to be buying VMworld. Dave, the keynote was anticipated by all. How it was going to go down, what was going to be said. Ragu set the table, I got a ton of notes. I know you do. What's your take? Well, you have to start with the Broadcom acquisition. You're right. In the audience, he stood up. He got a little clap. Dolph clap. He's paying $60 billion for VMware. He better be able to be recognized. And he was here yesterday with Michael Dell at the executive sessions. And their purpose, I'm sure, I mean, it didn't let us in, but I'm sure the purpose was to make sure that customers were calm. They were comfortable with the direction. Of course, the narrative coming out of VMware is that, hey, they're investigating, they're going deep into our portfolio and they like what they see. It's going to be all good. It's not going to be like the CA acquisition and de-levering and all that stuff.  The fact is Broadcom has promised $8.5 billion in EBITDA within three years. That's the only way they get there is to cut. So that's going to happen. But the interesting dynamic in the market, I don't know if you've noticed this, VMware stock is trading at a 20% discount to what Broadcom is paying for it.  But, and I think it's a due to the fact that it's a stock and a cash deal. You know, it's a combination deal and it's not going to close for a year. So there's maybe some skepticism around that. But that was an interesting dynamic. The keynote will get into it, but it's all around multi-cloud and what we call super cloud. Yeah, I mean, I have my conspiracy theories on Broadcom. You make chips, you look at all the waves right now in the technology industry. Silicon is hot. Anyone who's doing custom silicon and putting software on the chip, making purpose-built, you know, vertical applications, has seen performance gains, you know, in cloud and in these applications. So one, I'm really excited by the dots connecting with there. But also the VMware story, Dave, is pretty interesting in the sense that timing's everything, the Broadcom acquisition, EBITDA focus might drive behavior. But notable for VMware is Raghu has been on this vision for years. I remember in 2016 when I interviewed him with Andy Jassi, who was then the CEO of AWS, they had moved everything to Amazon Web Services. And that was the beginning of the vision of multi-cloud and cloud-native. VMware invested a ton. And so we're seeing some fruit come off the tree, if you will, bearing some fruit from that VMware investment in cloud-native across the board, which was their bet prior to Broadcom buying them out. So the question is, does Broadcom harvest that continue that nurturing of that, quote, plantation of goodness that could come out of that VMware? And again, it's probability. It's not guaranteed. Commentating on Twitter is pretty heavy on, can they win the devs? Can ops, the new ops bring it around the front? So VMware's in Broadcom's in a tough position. They bought more than they thought, in my opinion. And I think a lot of people are saying, does Broadcom recognize strategic value of what's coming out of the oven, so to speak, or what's blooming off the tree from VMware? And is it real? That is the number one question I talk to people in the hallway. That's what they're saying. They want to know what's going to happen with what's around the corner. That's on top of mind of everybody. It's a really important question because VMware's future is multi-cloud management, what we call super cloud. And without Tanzu, and I speculated that Tanzu was probably going to be under the microscope and potentially on the chopping block because they spent a lot of money marketing it, but they're probably not today getting a lot of returns. But without Tanzu, without a cross-cloud pass, what we sometimes call a super pass, that the strategy doesn't work. It basically fails. And I think what a lot of people are missing, and I saw you chime in on Twitter, is can they win the devs? Can they win the devs? This is table stakes. If you don't have a cross-cloud pass, and it's really about not necessarily just the devs, it's about the ops, right? Because now it's about security. Yes, shift left, but shield right. But the dev ops team, the ops team, needs consistency. It's like Adrian Cockroft says, the devs, they love to get married. The ops, they got to clean up after the divorce. And so they need standards. Implying that they'll use any tool for the job and not really worry about locking them. And I think today on the keynote, one of the Deshaunans up there who submitted a comment, you kids have it easy these days implying us old guys, when we coded, you had to do everything yourself. And Kelsey Hightower mentioned a support back desktop edition. The old days when I had to build everything by hand, now it's all automated, all goodness. But in all seriousness, the focus there was dev ops has won. Dev ops is what the developers are doing. The developers are in the clear right now, as far as I'm concerned. They have, they're sitting on the beach right now, sun glasses on, sun shining, everything's shift left, CI CD pipeline, cloud native goodness.  So dev ops is developer. Security and data ops is where the action is. So it's not so much IT operations as it is security and data leveling up to the velocity demand of developers and also ease of use. So self service, in the motion of coding, in the pipelining, that's what the developers have to have. And if people don't build that experience from the ops side, the new ops, it's not going to enable the development. It won't be adopted in my opinion. You know, you mentioned Paul Maritz before, his whole thing was any workload, any cloud, the software mainframe, they're talking about any Kubernetes, any cloud. And we got to go through some of the announcements real quick here. VMware Aria is the new multi-cloud management platform. That is the fundamental strategy for going cross cloud or what we call super cloud. The vSphere and vSAN 8 are big deals. And as it relates to compute with vSphere, they're really pushing that whole DPU. You might remember Project Monterey. Well, Project Monterey is essentially like AWS Nitro. It's the future of computing architecture, you know, seven years after AWS introduced it. So AWS is a huge lead here, but it's critical that a company like VMware is able to offer that capability with XPU optionality, GPU, CPU, ARM based, you know, Pensando capabilities, eventually NPUs, other capabilities to bring in and support new workloads, new data-driven workloads. So there's a lot of talk about the whole DPU thing. You know, as I mentioned, Tanzu, new version of Tanzu, they talked about Edge. You know, they're basically bringing VMware to the Edge with an eventual consistency model and a horizon cloud. On the vSphere thing, just to jump in there real quick. I always thought that that'd be higher up in the keynote. Clearly in the keynote, they flexed their cloud native positioning. They had to address the Broadcom thing, talk about modern applications. So it felt like they would sell them the dream on the front end. And they kind of buried the lead, in my opinion, which is vSphere 8. They don't do a lot of vSphere 8 announcements. If you look at the history of VMworlds, it's very, every few years they got a new release. This was packed with a lot of goodness. And I thought they buried that in the keynote. I don't know. I mean, you know, Raghu mentioned it. And yeah, I mean, they had a lot to cover. But, and then the other thing was they announced support for Red Hat OpenShift. So everybody's like, ooh, wow. And then, you know, Tanzu for, you know, all the Kubernetes versions from the cloud guys. So, you know, a lot of announcements, you got to always give VMware props.  They're a great engineering culture. And so it's nice to see Project Monterey in particular go from R&D to actual product. And so, you know, we like to see that. Even towards the end, now that we're doing a keynote review, he's, Raghu said, as proud as we are, kind of, this is when they start talking about the sustainability, implying they're real proud engineering. I mean, that's a good, good call out there. And I think that's what they're trying to get across the hop 10, it was sitting in the front rows. But, you know, Dave, I mean, in terms of keynote, my analysis is clear. Raghu was nervous, you can tell, but he's not, he's a product guy, he even said that on stage. He set the table at the beginning, I thought really well, with modern applications. He had to address the name change. I thought that was interesting. He actually said, we built a community with VMworld, but now with multi-cloud, we're going to recall and explore. Not sure I agree with that. I mean, I think VMworld community is still vibrant and that's why they're here. So I thought that was kind of a nice, ready balance that out. The messaging is good, the graphics and the branding of Explorer is world class. I think it's phenomenal. You know, I'm not a big fan of the name change, but I never go well with change there. Haktan didn't speak, he did stand up and wave, but he didn't. There's no way he's going to get up and speak. He didn't speak. So I thought that was interesting front end, so they got that right out of the way, and you actually were saying last night. And then they got into this digitally smart concept, which I thought was kind of on point, did not like the great replatforming message. I didn't, not a big fan of that because it reminded me of the great resignation. I think there's going to be a lot of memes on that, so not a big fan of the great replatforming. I did like the Cloud Universal pitch, but this whole multi-cloud pitch seems to me, and I want to get your thoughts on this and that, that's what it reminded me of Paul Moritz. So when Ragu is clearly betting the ranch on multi-cloud. Okay, the question is timing. Paul Moritz in 2010 here at VMware, BM World Moscone, he laid out the vision. He was right, but timing was off the top of the stack didn't materialize. But at the end of the day, ended up being the right architecture. Is VMware too early with multi-cloud, Dave? And that's the question, that's the question on the table. Well, so a couple of things for Moritz. The mistake, the one mistake Moritz made was he really tried to go into apps, remember? Okay, so now at least, I think Ragu, the current VMware thinking is, we're going to enable apps to be developed, and that is the right thinking. Are they too early or too late with multi-cloud? I think technically it just wasn't feasible. The customers weren't ready for it. VMware moves at the speed of the CIO, we like to say. So I think the timing is actually really good because the technical capabilities are now there. You've got to have a cross-cloud path, which Tanzu is about, and I think Tanzu was too immature before. They've got the pieces on the DPU side. And the other thing about the timing is now with Broadcom acquiring VMware, the whole non-Dell ecosystem has got to be a lot happier, right? You know, NetApp, the guys like that. Why is that? Because Dell had their thumb on the scale. They had the thing rigged. I mean, Dell was sort of first in line for everything. You know, when EMC owned VMware, that was the case, but they were quiet about it. Dell made no concession that they just came out and said, we are going to be VMware first. We are the preferred partner. We do more business with anybody. They really drove a truck through that. And I think it caused a lot of the ecosystem to pull back like HPE and others to say, okay, we're going to find some alternatives here. Now they can really lean in. It's like when HP broken two, that really changed the ecosystem posture with HPE. This is like that, but times 10. What do you think about the ecosystem floor last night? We did a walk on the floor. I thought it was very vibrant. It was not a ghost town at all. No, not at all. We saw Alibaba Cloud was there. We saw a lot of smaller companies. Microsoft. Right? And so I thought it was better than I thought it would be. You know, there's probably what? 7,000 people here, I would say.  It's, you know, it's a good crowd. People are excited to be back in person, obviously. And you know, I think the messaging was right, John. I think cross-cloud, multi-cloud, super-cloud. That is the future with David Floyer. It took a stab at it. I think there's going to be a $100 billion market by the end of the decade. Super-cloud's the thing for sure. And I think that came out in the ARIA announcement, which is basically a rebranding. It's not a new product. Essentially it's the Cobble Together Management Platform. I thought the cloud universal notes here were interesting. The cloud universal is the commercial cloud smart component, meaning they're trying to make that the frame day for the hyperscalers to kind of come in to a de facto consortium movement. I feel like that's next here. If this cloud universal could become the super-cloud consortium, that might give them a better shot. The ecosystem is buzzing, attendance is strong. It's interesting. A lot of people are speculating, will this be an event? I thought they did a great job. I thought they came through well with this. Is this what you're saying about a consortium? Because you have to have the cloud guys in any consortium, but is any one cloud going to drive it? VMware could be the driver. I mean, I'm thinking if I had to make a prediction looking at what I just saw in the keynote, we'll see what the VMware and ZEC say. If I had to make a guess, I think you're going to have customers still double down on VMware stuff. They're going to settle into vSphere and networking compute and storage, the normal stuff that they got, the self-defined data center core, as a cloud operational platform. And then you're going to see a lot more AWS migration. You might see that if Broadcom doesn't nurture the fruit coming off the tree, as we mentioned earlier, I think you might see people go more cloud native. But I think VMware's prepared for that with the hybrid. So it's going to be very interesting to see. I think the winners coming out of this will be AWS, maybe a little bit of trickle into Azure. I like Bob, but mostly for the European, I mean the China side, but I see, don't see them playing. Google is a wild card, we'll see it from them. I think the other big thing about the timing to your earlier point is VMware used to go to market with very bespoke, okay, we got vSAN, we got NSX, we got vSphere, and now they're trying to bring that together. And essentially, remember, they used to go to market and say, okay, hey, your ELA is up. Time to renew, and they're talking to the wrong people. So now they're really, they're going forth with the NASA service model. They're going to move to a subscription model. And I think the timing is right for that. I would have liked to see it a little bit beforehand, maybe pre-COVID would have been better timing. But I think technically the time is right now for that. And I think looking at the acquisition, kind of speculating on that, I mean think, let's discuss kind of how we see things, how they might move forward. Again, we'll ask the guests as much as we can and the best they could answer. But let's take this forward, okay, based upon what I'm seeing here. If I'm Hock Tan and the audience, I'm saying to myself, okay, I got more here than I thought I was buying. Maybe I thought I was getting some great EBITDA. I wonder if his outlook changed on how he goes to market with the new VMware post acquisition. So that means in around February timeframe, I would probably, if I was advising him to say, okay, let's keep it as is. Let's not do the cut, cut, cut. Maybe trim a little bit here and there, but for the most part, he's got the solid base, customer base, and he's going to have to keep the event. And I think- Here's the problem with that. You know, they have a very high do say ratio. They do what they say they're going to do. And as a result, they've promised 8.5 billion in EBITDA by within three years out of VMware. And they return 50% of their free cash flow to investors. If they break that promise, their stock will get crushed. So I don't think they're going to break that promise. So I think they're going to run, that's something I believe in their playbook that they're not going to change. Now, could they get there without massive cuts? I think it's going to be hard. Can they get there with price increases? Yes, and better efficiency? Yes. But they don't have a lot of go-to-market synergies, John. Broadcom doesn't have a big sales force that they can say, okay, we're going to fire all the VMware sales force, and you're going to go to market through our channel like Oracle would do with their big sales force, or like Adele would do with an acquisition. They can't. And so I just don't see how they're going to run it. The only other thing I would say is, to me, I thought the application development piece, the Tanzu piece was very appropriate, and I think they got it. Whether or not they're going to succeed there, we can debate that. But I thought what was missing was there wasn't enough in my opinion on their security posture, their security strategy. I thought they gave it lip service with, oh yeah, we're going to shift left, and you know, dev security, et cetera. They did not go in-depth. I think when you talk to someone like Tom Gillis who really can go deep, I think they, talking about Barry and the lead, that was not, security is the number one issue of CIOs, CIOs, CIOs, it boards, it's number one. And data is the second thing. And those two stories in the keynote were quasi-non-existent and or weak. Again, and the reason why I believe, and you're discussing it publicly at a high level, is SuperCloud is real because it's not just SaaS on cloud. It's hybrid, it's DevOps, it's developer. And security and data operations are just absolutely now leveling up, and the edge is a complete wildcard. We met the company last night, they're doing the edge cloud. The edge is going to open up all kinds of new use cases and challenges, so I think, you know, and that's on the data security side. DevOps, IT operations is already in the dev cycle. If companies aren't doing that in my opinion, they're not really doing it right. So I think it'll shift to security in ops and data ops, that's going to be the action. In the cloud operational framework, that's SuperCloud. To me, if I'm hocked at, I'm saying VMworld, VMware Explorer, VMware has to be a core component of SuperCloud of the future. Not multi-cloud, that's just a kind of a state. I think multi-cloud is just a description of a state of an architecture and an outcome, but that's not SuperCloud. That's not a functioning operating system. That's not a functioning business driver driven technology. So I think VMware is up to it. So I look at that and saying, I got chip options all the way up to the top of the stack and SuperCloud pass layers. You described that, I think it's the way to go. When you think about how VMware got here, VMware was a $13 billion trailing 12 month revenue company. There aren't a lot of $13 billion software companies. And the way VMware got here is through great software engineering. Okay, they identified problems that the customers had and they went and solved them. They did it with virtualization. They did it with private cloud. You know, they're doing it with, they figured out their public cloud strategy. So I think the question for Broadcom is going to be, okay, how fast can we monetize that engineering? Can we turn that engineering R&D into dollars and how fast can we do that? You know, they have two choices in my opinion. Keep innovating, which of course we hope that's the case or act like a private equity firm and just squeeze as much cash out of VMware as possible. Which I don't think would be the right strategy because eventually that says, okay, what's going to happen to Broadcom? How are they going to continue to grow? Are they going to have to just keep growing through acquisition? So I think R&D is a really good spend when it's VMware. And I think as we wrap up our keynote analysis, one of the things that are going to come out of this is the conversation. No doubt in my mind will be VMware isn't CA. And the question is, does Broadcom go off their playbook with VMware? Because of the fact that you look at the sponsorships for the show, we got a robust set of sponsorships for theCUBE with two sets. We're booked, fully loaded, conversations high, that Floor is all about next level cloud operations. This is not a dying market. I mean, this is like a growth wave coming. So the question, as SuperCloud becomes that growth and everyone's talking about SuperCloud, there are, you know, some people don't like the name, which is good, keep grace, debate, but there's no doubt that that next wave is the SuperCloud philosophy, the SuperCloud mindset and architecture and development environment. And we've documented that on supercloud.world if anyone's interested, but that wave is coming. And you can see it on the floor, look at the sponsors, look at what people are talking about, Dave. This is not like we're buying VMware, Broadcom buying VMware and talking to get under and saying, okay, hope we can service the customer. There's a real market growth here story. So the question is, what do you do with that? Well, so you start with the base. VMware is a very good platform. I mean, the reason why, they don't have a ton of competition. And the reason why, you know, okay, Nectanix can maybe trickle some away, but VMware is really good. It works, it's stable, it recovers from failures. It's got a super strong ecosystem. So you start by building there and then you identify the places where you can, you know, spend a dollar and make it 10. Well, I was very excited that when we had our SuperCloud event, which is kind of a virtual event as a test, we had great VMware support. And a lot of the catalog sessions up here on Moscone West where we're sitting upstairs is all the sessions. They're crowded and they overlaid, Dave, with our narrative and the industry narrative on the influencer side. We're starting to see the influencers meeting our editorial and just seeing the SuperCloud with VMware and their ecosystem. Kind of agreeing SuperCloud is real. And I think that is an important note because just last December, when we coined the term at ReInvent, hey, Dave, it's ReInvent. Look what's happened. And I want to get your thoughts and your reaction to why SuperCloud has got so much traction. I mean, it's great buzz with the name, but why is it that our SuperCloud, the VMware and the ecosystem are all aligning with this? Why do you think that's happening? Why do you think that the momentum is accelerating? The reason is that, as everybody knows, organizations have multiple clouds. It's a function of shadow, devs, M&A. And so they end up with all these different clouds, all these different projects, different primitives, different APIs, different tool sets, okay. And they call the cloud chaos today. It's accurate. It is cloud chaos. Okay, so what's the problem with that? Well, that makes it harder to secure. It makes it harder to govern. It makes it harder to share data. It creates data silos. What's the answer? Well, if you can create a layer, that's an abstraction layer that simplifies all that cross-cloud data sharing and development and have a consistent set of APIs through a PAS layer. We call it SuperPAS.  I'm going to optimize for whatever purpose, data sharing or performance or whatever it is. You're going to solve a lot of problems and you're going to make the CIOs life easier so that they can invest in their own business and their digital transformation and their digital strategy. So that's why people agree. They might not agree with the name, but they certainly agree with the concept that that abstraction layer is the... The name is certainly a better name than multi-cloud. Multi-cloud sounds broken, but I think CIOs and CXOs, CISOs have to get buy-in from their teams. The organic dev relationship with ops and sec ops and data ops has to be symbionic, not conflicting. And I love the CIOs story because as Andy Grove, the legend at Intel, as one said, let CIOs rain and then rain in the CIOs. CIOs is cash. And so in any innovation inflection point, CIOs becomes the complexity, abstraction layers and or innovation takes that complexity away. This is the formula for success. And I think VMware's right in the middle of it. And I think if I'm looking at VMware right now, I'm saying, hey, rain in that CIOs right now and you win, right? So CIOs is not a bad thing if you can rain it in, Dave, right? And that's what they've done. You think about what they've did with virtualization. It was chaotic. It was wasteful. Think of what they did with private cloud. They said, hey, IT guys, we're going to help you not get cloudified. We're going to cloudify your presence on-prem and not just throw everything in the cloud. They did a great job there. And now it's all about multi-cloud. Well, we're going to rain in the CIOs, extract the signal from the noise, super cube here at super cloud event, VMware Explorer, Dave, great to kick it off again. 12th year of cube coverage. It seems like a lifetime, Dave, just yesterday. We were here in 2010. We've been in Moscone South. We've been in North. We've been in Las Vegas. It's now we're here. It's the first time in West. Some of these developers were in elementary school when we started the cube here. It's just feeling old relics. Anyway, we're going to bring more action. Three days of coverage, the cube.net, check it out, join our community, join the conversation as the influences are coming more onto the market. You're seeing a lot more conversations on Twitter, on LinkedIn, on the internet. Check it out, join the conversation. I'm John Furrier, Dave Vellante. We'll be back with more coverage here in San Francisco after this break.


Welcome to Access a Trader, the number one community for those who are committed to taking control of their trading in order to achieve success, profitability, and longevity. Thank you for joining us. Here's Dan Shapiro to help you find your edge, master your process, and own your future. Hey, guys, doing here, buddy. Welcome to another edition of the AccessTrader.com. That we wrap up show. Hope everybody is doing okay. Before we go on, obviously, I want to wish everybody a very happy and healthy Thanksgiving. If you are trading tomorrow, that's great. If you're not, again, take the day off. Again, very, very busy time of the year. People are traveling. People are enjoying themselves, loved ones, all that good stuff. And again, that's the name of the game. That's the whole point. So if you are trading tomorrow, I will be trading tomorrow. I think we have a window of about two hours or so, two and a half hours. And you kind of saw what happened today after lunchtime, like the volume just dies. The volume dies and, you know, all the interest is gone until the next day. And I think tomorrow, yeah, I think we'll have probably a couple of hour window. If you are trading, I want to trade probably to around lunchtime and see how the day goes. And again, if it's any indication of what we saw today for tomorrow's session, then I think we should have enough value for tomorrow's session, at least in the morning, to kind of make hay. And then kind of enjoy the Thanksgiving festivities. So again, happy Thanksgiving day. So let's talk about today. Again, just like from last night's video, sometimes you don't need to get too creative. You know, you don't have to overthink. The market is very, very strong right now. We just keep on melting up the strong stocks that we talked about yesterday, going into today's session. For example, like the Amazons of the world, they continue to be stronger stocks like Tesla, for example, that we gave every reason that the stock hasn't continued to go lower today went. We'll talk about that obviously in a few minutes. So there wasn't a lot of, you know, mind numbing events that happen today. Nothing macro, no crazy tweets, no crazy economic blips on the radar. It was just what it is, a holiday shortened week. Some good value today. We had some pretty good strong pivots. The stocks that confirmed went pretty seamlessly from, you know, Tesla to KRTX to Amazon to shop, which had one of the bigger moves of the day. And again, sometimes you don't need to overthink. You don't need to dissect things. You just kind of roll it, right? Just roll with it. You don't need to sit there and try to figure out nine different ways from Tuesday what has happened. If you have eyeballs, you can see materialistically, we're okay. We're all time highs. Again, what's going to happen towards the end of the year? You know, again, you can only speculate, but again, for now, things are going well. So tomorrow, I expect probably another continuation day, especially in the names like Amazon, okay? Amazon was a big, big move today, probably sees more upside. Tesla, again, and again, we'll talk about the individual pivots from today, will probably see more downside tomorrow. And again, like we say all the time, keep it simple, stupid, right?  Again, there's a lot of times we give little tidbits here and there to traders, you know, to try to help traders out kind of in the general direction for longevity. And just tonight, you know, we're just talking about keep it neat and potatoes, keep it simple, wait for the confirmations tomorrow, get in, get out. That's what she said. And that's it.  That's the meme of the game.  Again, let's talk about today. Again, pretty basic stuff. And again, it's the same names over and over and over again. And that's why it's really not a lot of surprises when they do confirm, when they do, you know, when they do second entry comes along, you get a second way of buying a selling. Usually the Rex directional bias will play out. There actually was a little bit of a tidbit that I did put on the fee today for traders, for traders in general, depending what your, depending what your strategy is. And again, this was just kind of a general statement. But I said, depending long or short, just kind of a point of reference, consider entering sales at whole numbers. Okay. For anybody who's been with me in the live webinar for over nine years, you kind of know a majority of my trades are done at whole numbers just because that represents the most market participants, both retail and institutional. You're going to have the most liquidity there. And depending again, what your strategy is, if nothing at all, especially for a new trader that's looking for cash flow, if nothing at all, that whole number entry both lower short will represent the high probability of good cash flow. And if you believe in whatever process you trade, that should result in any, any matter, at least a good directional way for you to enter the trading kind of management from that area. Just kind of a tip that is good. I've been trying to enter it whole numbers for years and years and years. It's just been a better way to kind of gauge which way the buyers of sellers that have control in our situation control the pivot in different situations, obviously depending on your stock specific strategy. So today, you know, again, pretty solid, pretty solid session with a lot of pivots. A lot of people doing very, very well. And that's the whole point. BYND, we talked about that 76 level, obviously never even tested there. I actually like BYND for tomorrow.  You never know, right? You never know. I know, I know a lot of people are craving that non meatless meat for Thanksgiving, but nevertheless, if this channel here confirms, you know, you could get a couple of dollar move, nothing wrong with that. So I want to kind of watch it for tomorrow, but obviously today it didn't, it didn't do anything. Tesla, we talked about yesterday, how I thought the stock got rejected off the ugly design of the truck got rejected yesterday. Almost went red about about the theory of orders, right, pre pre orders for the truck. Nobody cared. Nobody cared and they sold the stock off. We talked about this 330 level. If it builds below can flush. We talked about 330. There's a shot to get the 330 and I said there's a shot to get the 326 and yada, yada, yada. This is why technical analysis is so damn cool, right? So here was the 330 for on the daily. Here was the 330, right? Here's the 330 and it went all the way down. I said 226 and a half in the live webinar. Here's your here. I thought I was gonna get the 226 and a half. I got to 2710 shoot me again. Basic technical analysis.  Sometimes they don't tell the truth, but charts don't lie. I think it's a great way to control your emotions, control your risk and have vivid picture in front of you before you allocate risk. So again, you can see it here. If it starts confirming down tomorrow, there is room to the downside. So if you are Tesla permeable, you better hope today's price action doesn't confirm, but nevertheless, really strong move on Tesla today on Netflix. Again, it's just the same story.  There's some sort of Disney headline. You saw the headline today. I think they were doing like a million subscribers a day. And obviously again, it's gonna affect Netflix, but it held up. It held up. It tested at 316 level never confirmed. So I still like it. I really do. Amazon, again, we discussed, if you watch these videos day after day after day, you kind of see the thought process every single day. And I said this thing's gonna go $2 million worth of bet last Friday. They made their bets ahead of Black Friday. And again, this is a beautiful job, beautiful job by the Bulls. Great job for all you guys who took it. We talked about that 1780 pivot, right? 1780 pivot on Amazon. I said it was a shot to get into the 1790s. That's exactly where it stopped, 1790s. If you look for tomorrow, and again, your eyes don't lie. And again, you believe in the theory that stocks go from supply to supply and demand to demand. Again, this thing starts confirming today's price action tomorrow. There's a shot it gets to this 815 level, and then ultimately after Cyber Monday's open, you could have a move to 1840, but again, instead of putting the cart in front of the horse. You know, $1,800 or so tomorrow should get to $1,814 on Amazon. NVIDIA never got there. Boeing never got there. GBT, I wasn't even watching GBT, honestly, but I saw the move, the spike, it was a couple of dollars move. Here's GBT, and here's where we got the $68 level for. Here's the GBT, right? And I said, if it reclaimed 68, it can go almost to 70. If you got a piece of that, God bless. I had no interest in this thing, so I wasn't even watching it. SHOP was definitely the biggest move of the day. Awesome move.  You can hear it by my voice. I'm just exhausted. But SHOP, we talked about the levels 320, 322, 326. I said, once it started reclaimed, especially the 326, had a shot of 332, 333, and SHOP went nuts.  I still like it for tomorrow. Just went nuts. So here is the 320 sneaky, right? Here's the 320 sneaky. Here was the 322. Here was the 326, and it just exploded. Just absolutely exploded. It went to 338, just an absolute monster move on Shopify. So a huge move there. A big move there as well. So again, we demonstrate the pivots to the long side. We demonstrate pivots to the short side. We talked about this KRTX. We said, hey, I think there's a shot if it confirms, has a shot to get down to the 77, 71 area, the 7750, 7750 builds below it can flush. Again, here's KRTX. Again, it's a pretty basic, you know, pretty basic technical analysis. The low of this rising channel was 7750. So once it started breaking below the 7750, 7770, it went right down pretty much to the lows of day today at 72. Probably goes to 70 bucks tomorrow before any type of balance. So great job. I mean, absolutely great job for those who got that as well. Tesla, we talked about shop, we talked about new lows. As you can see, again, pretty, pretty productive day, monster, ridiculous, blah, blah, blah, all these adjectives to use. And that was it. I mean, that was it. This was the, you know, this was the watch list going into last night, right? Again, no surprises. This is Alibaba, although Alibaba gap, there's no way you got filled in 91. FLXN went up about 20, 25 cents. BLMN, I wasn't even watching this thing, BLMN, what would we say, 2380, 24, it still didn't trigger yet that 24 area. And Tesla was on there, obviously, Boeing. Yeah, again, Facebook. Facebook, I caught, I caught, to say I caught this thing. I tried to balance Facebook. Okay, it went down. I tried to balance Facebook. It went down, you know, 20, 30 cents away from my entry, got above, started rallying back up. It was up about 40 cents or so. Then it went back down and it went back up and it went back down. So I wanted to make it like 30, 35 cents on some and then I broke even on the rest. And then the stock just tanked. It's such a, Facebook is such a weird stock. It really is just really is such a weird stock. You got to have the ultimate brain capacity to trade this thing. One day it looks great and the next six days you want to just kind of blow your brains out. But it is what it is. So again, again, I expect kind of, you know, I expect the same type of value we saw today for yesterday for tomorrow's session. Again, I will be trading at least whole lunchtime. And then depending how the day falls out, maybe a little later, maybe a little more. But again, I think once like lunchtime rolls around, you know, once lunchtime rolls around, I do think it will be completely a go sound. Okay, I'll be a completely go sound for tomorrow. So let me give you guys, let's talk about tomorrow. Let's talk about tomorrow. Some ideas for tomorrow's tomorrow session. Let me start out with let me see here. Let me start off the stock SP. I don't know what this SP is, but it actually looks pretty damn good. Right. It had this really, really big run at the end of October to November and kind of came in held the fort. Today, first close over supply. Okay, and again, first close over the 10 day moving average. Again, if you've ever watched the workshop and all that cool stuff, you know that the 10 day moving average is for me the birth of the trade. So keep an eye on this thing. I don't know what this thing is, but keep an eye on it. I put in a high today of 4484. The high here is 4498.  So keep an eye on SP. I like, you know, I like this congratulations for putting in the time to take control of your trading your one step closer to owning your future and achieving the success you desire. Want daily trade ideas directly from Dan straight off his personal watch list? Unlock our free PS 60 vault where you'll get nightly updates on pivot opportunities. We're watching for the next day session. Click the link in the description to get started today.