Welcome to my channel and welcome to another comic book haul video. Now in the last comic book haul video I mentioned that I was pushing my limits, my budget, and that was going to be my last buy, and that was Quantum of Woody sets lots of valients, basically about almost everything Quantum of Woody and a fair bit of other valients. And during that video I mentioned that I was tracking some golden age comics, late golden age, golden age, early silver age comics from another seller, and what they mainly were were the love comics. I've been sort of trying to buy sort of love romance comics, especially from the golden age of comics because I showed you guys some of the ones I've had and mentioned that I didn't have very many in. Someone posted a comment that the romance comics had a huge role to play in the comic book medium and I did a little bit of research and they mentioned that Hank Williams actually, a lot of his music was based on some of the romance comics that he used to have and I tracked down some documentaries, sent me a link and I looked at it and blew me away. So I looked a little bit further into this and I found out that Jack Kirby had a huge part to play in it, I believe. So I've sort of been collecting, I've been buying up romance comics, love comics from the golden age, silver age of the industry and they're really reasonably priced. And so I've been trying to get my hands as many as I can and I ended up bidding, buying some books from a seller that I bought before and I've showed you guys a couple of a couple of the comic book haul videos we did from the same seller that I just got this package from and those were the sort of golden, silver age and golden, silver, bronze age, I guess, comic book haul videos we did where I was basically transitioning, doing my move from one location to another and I needed a break. This was really fun getting the books and just surfing eBay and buying some stuff, right? So what I ended up doing is I placed my bid for some of the golden age and silver age romance comics and ended up winning them and the seller has a lot of stuff listed, all of them basically 99 cents, some of them buy it now, a lot of them are auction, right? And just a quick note, if you've never been dived into the dollar bins at a comic bookstore, I highly recommend diving into the dollar bins at a comic bookstore because collectors do, like hardcore collectors, one of the things they do they have in their routine is they go to the dollar bins and look through the dollar bins, right? And I do that fair bit, I should be doing it more because I found some amazing deal at dollar bins and one thing you have to appreciate with comic books is price is not really an indicator of how good a comic book is. So, you know, there might be certain comics that sell for a lot but they're selling them for a lot because of maybe a key issue or a first appearance or a death or new artist, new writer, whatever it might be, right? So, you're paying a premium for those comic books that have, you know, their key issues and what not. In the dollar bins, what you end up finding is you're getting, you know, you're getting stuff on the cheap for a dollar. I mean, right now, comic books, average price is anywhere between three to four dollars, so you're paying anywhere between a quarter to a third of the price of new comic books. And some of the comic books in the dollar bins are some of the best reads you're ever going to have. They're amazing, amazing comic book series and comic books that you can buy complete runs of that are some of the best written, best drawn comic books out there and they're extremely reasonably priced, right? So, just a quick little pointer. If you've never gone to dollar bins in comic book stores, go into the dollar bins in comic book stores. That's what some hardcore collectors do. Some people that are new to the comic book scene that, you know, when they pick up a comic book, they don't know where it starts. So, you know, recommending people to go to the dollar bins and just sift through and pick out what they want is not a bad idea, right? So, what I ended up doing for this comic book haul, I ended up buying a fair bit from the guy. So, I blew my budget. I've blown my budget for a few months now, right? So, basically, I'm going to be cutting back on some of my weekly pull lists as well because I've, you know, gotten a fair bit and I'm not reading everything. So, I'm going to reduce from that end and I sort of justify buying these books for that reason as well, right? And usually, if you've watched the previous comic book haul videos, you'll know that I sort of tally up what I've bought and what's come, how much the shipping and stuff like this. And I haven't done this with this book yet, with this package yet, because there's more comics that I've bought that he couldn't fit into the box. And one of the reasons I started, you know, I bought a fair bit from him, which sort of treated like a dollar bin, diving into the dollar bin. But there were some comics in there that, you know, there was like three or four comics in there that were expensive. One that was fairly expensive for my budget anyway. And I'll show you, I think that was in this one. But basically what happened was I bought some of the books and he sort of sent me a message saying I've maxed out his shipping expense, right? So I could buy as many books as I wanted to and he wouldn't charge me any extra shipping, which is a huge plus, especially if you're buying, you know, you're going with the budget kind of buy, right? With dollar bins and stuff like this. So I kept on buying some of the stuff, just it's pure random. There's a lot of some romance comics in here, but a lot of the other stuff and some horror stuff, but a lot of the other stuff is just randoms that I just picked up. Either they look good or they're reader copies or what not, right? So let me show you this. He sent me a short box, right? Totally taped up and I like it when it's done like this because, you know, I got a comic book box out of it and comic book boxes are pretty strong, right? They're pretty strong. So this thing's traveled across Canada all the way to me, okay? And the cellar was in Canada. So let's crack this open. Again, like trustworthy, bloodshot bug scutter. You guys have seen this a few times, not a nice job on the packaging, on the taping anyway. So what I have is a few comics still left. Well, a few comics. There's some comics still left that he hasn't shipped. And basically it's his way of getting me to buy more as well.  This is a short box and there's a few comic books left over. And he mentioned that if he was going to send them all in one package, it was going to cost a lot more. And, you know, he was already covering some of the costs of the shipping. And he said if it was okay for him to keep some of the comics and if I was going to buy more, he was going to list some more romance comics. You know, I'd buy more and then he would put another short box together and send it my way. Okay. So this is, this might take a while to go through. I just want, right now all I want to do is just make sure they're all here, whatever he sent. He said basically the last buy he didn't send. And the last buy I had, I don't think that's in here because he said the last buy didn't have this. But I was able to get my hands on the first printing of crow number two for $10, $10.77 US. And I don't think that's here. So that was one of the more expensive buys. I ended up having him put up the crow first printing number two and we've read the crow number one, right? So whenever I can get my hands on the crow, I try to get my hands on the crow, especially at a good price, right? So let me go down, scroll down. And there was some stuff here that he had as buy it now. And eBay's Waco, I couldn't, you know, when I press buy it now, he tried to charge me shipping every time. So there were some books here that I don't know if they sent these ones, but let me pull this out, this is tight. So I just sent him a list of some of the buy it now stuff that I was looking at. And then all he did was add those to my, to what I bought and, you know, just charged me to cover price. Take a look, take a look at the first one I see. David Cassidy, star of the Partridge family, number one, right? Take a look. Followed by, seriously, look at it. Obama inauguration number one, right? So let me tell you what I ended up paying for these, because what we're going to do is just kind of finding these, going to be, oh, there it is. Okay, so let me hopefully there, oh, this looks like it might be sort of in order. I pulled it from the middle, unfortunately. So they might be in packs and he had to bill me because I bought this. What I ended up doing is all the stuff was staggered over a month, right?  There were some horror stuff and he said, yeah, for sure, you know, you could keep on buying for like three weeks, four weeks. So that's what I ended up, I mean, that's how I accumulated all these, right? Sort of, I guess, go into the dollar bins multiple times. And this is, if you remember, this seller, the two packages I bought from him before, he undergrads, the low grades he undergrads. I looked at the stuff after I showed you guys, we took a look at some of them, the previous two that we did from the seller. And, you know, stuff he was marking as two or three or one were more like three and four and five, like grading wise, comic book, grading wise. So I thought it was a fantastic deal, getting some of the books from him. So let me tell you how much, what I ended up getting and I'll try to find out the cost for these as well, right? And most of these I was bidding against resellers, they were, you know, they were into the hundreds, if not thousands, their feedback, okay? So David Cassidy, number one, 1972, I paid $3.33 US for this, okay? And he graded this guy at 2.5 or 3, just from the cover. That's definitely on the three side, okay? So David Cassidy, number one, 1972, let me rearrange this for a second. Oops, no, this one we want, this one we want, this one we want. And then I got Obama inauguration from 2019, number one, and he's graded, this is 9.29, 9.2, and I paid 99 cents for this. We got X-Files, X-Files Ashken Edition, okay? 1995, and Ashken is something that, it was sort of a promo that a lot of comic book companies did in the early 1990s to mid 1990s, so they call on Ashken and I paid $2.30 for this. I might just end up out there, cool. So let me put these down, that way I can hold it up while I'm searching. This is Dennis Domenis and his pal Joey, number one from 1961. I paid $2.25 for this and he graded this thing as 1.5. Inside, the inside covers are cream color around edges. I would rate this more than 1.5. We got showcase DC-19. Some of these were just buy it now stuff, so let's see if we can, this was 99 cents, I'm positive. Yeah, this was 99 cents from 1985, 1995, and he graded 8.5. Beautiful cover. Here's some of the romance stuff, and that's there. I'm trying to find these using the covers. There's this one. Teen Confessions, Teen Confessions, number 48 from 1968, okay, and this thing cost me 99 cents. Teen Confessions, which cover is this? Hot, saucy. This one, this one again, 99 cents, and he's rated this, he's graded this thing as 4.4.5. And from 1969, Teen Confessions, 53 from 1969 for 99 cents, graded a 4, perfect. Here's the other one. Love these, I love these. This is 99 cents, Teen Confessions, number 55 from 1969, and again 99 cents, right, graded at 4.4.5, which is a fantastic deal, fantastic deal. The romance stuff I got from, I was very happy with as far as the price goes and stuff. There's one of them actually that cost me way, way more than I was initially expecting, but then I looked into it and I found out it's something that people are chasing. This one I have to do a search, fine. ARG, so this is ARG, number four, and I have ARG number one. ARG, number one and number two, I don't have number four, so that's one of the reasons I bought this, and this one cost me a dollar four US, one dollar or four cents, and it's from 1975, ARG number four, okay, and he's graded this thing as four. Again, happy with this, happy with this. You know what, we're just going to do searches instead of me scrolling weird worlds. Weird worlds, number one, from 1972, I'm blocking my own screen access, from 1972, again, cost me a dollar four cents, and he's graded this thing as two. Six inside page, a small piece missing from the lower right corner, half an inch by two inches, which is, you know, I looked at some of the previous stuff that this guy had listed, he was trying to be very, very accurate, and after talking with him a lot, I liked the seller, okay. So weird worlds, number one, 1972, for a dollar four cents, dark shadows, oh I lost my search one, okay, I gotta, can't do that, so dark, dark shadows, 24, 1974, dark shadows, 24 from 1974, cost me $1.99, and he's got, he's got it graded at 11.5, minor more moisture damage on the lower edge of comic. This seller, whenever he has any comics that are minor moisture damage, you can see, usually you can see moisture damage with the ripples, right, this one, that's the plastic bag on the ripples, you can't even see it, right, it could be on the inside, but he's graded this as one. This, just from the cover, I'm gone inside of course, but nothing's missing, I would grade this as three, 3.5, easy, easy, right, you can actually feel a little bit of moisture damage, but you can't see the ripples, and keep in mind, all of this is bagged and boarded as well, right, and bagging and boarding, minor moisture damage, but beautiful art, this might be too dark, the artists for Deezer, I would have to look these up to see who the artists are, usually a lot of these comics, they weren't signed, and as we looked at the, we did the previous video comic book video, where I gave you my take regarding where I think the industry is going, we found out that for horror comics, DC, and this is, this is a gold key, DC comics started giving credit to their horror writers, writing out their names and stuff, after the comics code decided to ban, wouldn't allow Marv Wolfman, a name to be in the comic, because Wolfism, you know the comic codes, they didn't allow certain types of words, right, so that's, that's insane, here's another romance, let me write this in, now girl, girl's stuff on here, oops, so this is girl's beautiful cover, beautiful cover, girl's romance, girl's romances, number 137, right, this thing cost me 434, so I'm the higher end, and he's great at this thing, it's 44.5, okay, beautiful cover, I was bidding the person before me that bid on this, he bid twice, I bid twice, his ranking is 3149, I guess he was chasing this one, beautiful cover, what happens when a girl falls in love with a wrong boy, there it is, girl's love, girl's love, number 147 from 1969, this one cost me $1.9, and he's got it graded as 1.5, no reason, just grading it 1.5, a little bit of staining, we got a lot of comics to go through, heartthrobs, beautiful cover, look at this, I'm losing him because I couldn't be his kind of girl, this is heartthrobs, heartthrobs number 124 from 1970, graded at 3.5, cost $1.50, $1.50 Canadian, $1.09 US, this thing keeps on switching between Canadian and US, I think one reason is some of these things I bought at .ca, some of them I bought on .com, okay, so this one's $1.09 US, $1.21 from 1969, cost $2.44 US, and it's graded at 2.2.5, okay, okay, if he's more important than I am, I'm leaving, there's Scooter, Sing with Scooter, Archie Comics, this is Archie DC, Archie pretend I guess, so this is Scooter number 14 from 1968, cost $2.14 US, and it's graded as 3.3.5, slightly off-center of the comic, there's two Scooter comics that I bought, here's the other one, Scooter number three, where is Scooter number three, Scooter number three, and this is from 1966, cost $3.16 US, and it's graded this thing at 1.5, 1.8, one inch upper spine split, he's marking these things down insane, but yeah, this is more higher grade than what he's given but it's good, I like it when sellers are more strict of course, right, Walt Disney presents, Walt Disney presents the happiest millionaire, millionaire number one, 1968, cost $1.71 US, and he's graded this thing as 2.5, comic is off-center, in my book, if that's the only flaw that he's giving, this is more of a 4.4.5, hard drops, number 123 from 1970, cost $1.9, and he's graded this thing as 4.4.5, the covers are beautiful for these, for these comics, adventure comics, oh there it was, where'd it go, oops no not that one, adventure comics number 281, this was Superboy, this from 1961, cost $331, a $334 US, and he's graded this thing as 1.5, 1.8, and again, I was bidding against the same guy, the reseller with the 3149 ranking, adventure comics 272, 279 from 1960, and this has got tape on the spine, tape on the cover and stuff, so ended up costing $559, adventure comics 279, 1960, and he's graded this thing as 1.5, 1.8, see the tape here, that's tape right there, 87th precinct, number two, cost $0.99, and he would have graded this low because it's got staining on it, he's graded it 1.5, 1.8, minor staining on comic, and it's, what is it from, 1962 precinct number 2, 87th precinct, fantastic 4, number 140, 1973, he's graded this thing as 2, 2.5, 1973, $0.99, I just felt like grabbing it, I don't collect too much fantastic 4, this one is expensive one, let me show you this one, let me find it before I show it to you guys, adventure comics, ready, this is by far, this kicked off the price for this shipment, adventure comics number 267, it's from 1959, he's graded this thing as 2, 2.5, lower grade is for the one and a quarter inch tear on the lower edge of comics, one and an inch quarter tear on the lower edge of comic, there it is, you could see it in the picture, there's a tear up here, right, this thing in my book, I would have graded this a lot higher, I don't, the edges are nice, like this comic is a second appearance, I believe so anyway, I should be, I should do a little check on this, you're fine, fully commit to saying this, this comic cost me $57 US, it's the second appearance of Legion of Superheroes and I was happy to get this and it was a good price and he was lowballing the great, look at it, great comic, look at that, put this guy, I don't want to bury this guy, I want to check it out right, so I'm going to put it on this side, that's definitely going to be checking out, by far the most expensive comic, the rest of them are, there's one more that's I think like $10, the rest are way below $10, most are $99, so let's check out this one, I'm going to do a search under this, ghosts, this one is ghost number 38 from 1975, cost $0.99 and it's 2.5, great, right, dollar bent by, dollar bent by from this, I think I already have one of these, I think I showed it to you guys actually, a high spy, number one from 1966, okay, it cost me $334 and it's great at this thing, it's 2, Dr. Strange number 173, Dr. Strange, where are you, Dr. Strange, Dr. Strange number 173 from 1968, cost $302 US and it's great at this thing, it's 2.5, some old, some new, this one, this one's crazy, the cover price of this comic, I know this because I bought it when it came out and after buying this when it came out, I didn't realize that was a cover price, I dropped all marvels from my poll list because I didn't like what they did, this is Deadpool 45, okay, this is a variant edition, I don't know if the cover that I have is different, this is the variant edition, I don't know if it's 1 out of 10 or it's just you know cover B, cover C or whatever it is, it cost me 99 cents and he's great at this thing is 7.5, right, now marvel did this in the last few years, all of a sudden when you're pulling a comic, if you're subscribed to a comic, one of the issues ends up costing you $10 US, that's unacceptable in my book, so after picking this up for $10, I was on my poll list so I paid for but I told the comic book owners to remove all marvels from my poll list and I know they've done this with amazing Spider-Man stuff, I know some people are okay with it, for me it was too much, okay for me it was too much, Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse Club Parade, number one, nice, from 1955, he's great at this thing is 3 and it cost me 605, fantastic, very happy with this buy, the two people was bidding against, they went to thousands for this book, they're ranking $105,000, they're ranking, right, the same guy 3,149 and the other guy was 4,645, you know, feedbacks, I'm very happy with this buy, the Mickey Mouse stuff and well the Walt Disney stuff and the War stuff and Love comics, romance comics, I'm happy with it, this is Battle, which one is this one, 37, Battle number 37, yes that's the one, Battle number 37, okay, last pre-code issue is listed as 1955 and this thing cost me $8.56, last pre-code issue and if you're curious the last pre-code issue is the last comic book from this series or I guess the last comic book from any series, not this one specifically, but each one whenever they say the last pre-code, before the comic code kicked in, where they had the, let me show you, here's how would they put their seal of approval on there, right, and this one doesn't have that censorship seal of approval and we talked a lot about the censorship in the previous comic book video, right, so this one, last Battle number 37, 1955, 856, one more expensive books that I bought, but it was well worth it, well worth it, Fury, back Fury, number three, cost $1.53 US and it's graded, this thing is four and it's from 1955, beautiful, I like this one, this is what I really like, I love the cover of this one, Six Gun Western, check this out, Six Gun Western number two from 1957 and it's got the comic code on there, so I guess this is one or two issues in and it's graded, this thing is 5.5 and it cost me $7.59, beautiful book, Six Gun Western number two, I don't have Six Gun Western number one, his gun's hanging low, what does this, no I gotta search this one, it's not showing up on that, amazing adventures, oh this is probably one of the ones that I, yeah, amazing adventures, 37 and this is one to buy it now once, I bought it for $1.09 US and it's graded at 5.56 and it's amazing adventures, number 37, $1.76, I was picking up the rest of the books and I just figured I'd grab this one as well, the cover, Rackmophobia, Dark Shadow, we bought the, or I bought a head full of Dark Shadows comics, so Dark Shadows number 28, 1974, cost $0.99 and it graded this thing as two, spine chipping between staples, so it's saying the spine is chipping, chipping is like a little bit, it's breaking apart the paper, I guess the acidity is hitting it, the acidity makes it brown, I'm not sure what makes the chipping but I guess the acidity would have a lot to do with it as well, all right, but beautiful intact cover, all right, nothing missing from the cover, I would definitely grade this higher than two, Chamber of Chills, Chamber of Chills, where are you, Chamber of Chills number 20, from 1976, cost $2.30 and he's graded this thing as three, this is four, 4.5 easy, nice cover, look at the cover, Midnight in the Mork, love comics, our love story, our love story, the covers for these are insane, let's see if you can see the writing, let me try to hold it up so you can see the writing on it, our love story, number 38, from 1976, cost $1.09 and these were actually listed at 99 cents but because I bought it on the canadian.ca, it cost me $1.50 canadian and it's converting it to a U.S. so it was 99 cents U.S. and during the conversions converted to $1.50 so I don't know if this locks it in, I don't know what, how their algorithm works, anyway but he's graded this at 2.5, okay, love story, our love story, number 38 from 1976, we're finished Jackie, Aaron Gates turns off, are those tears for me or for another reason, you'll never forget, I loved you once, remember, tales of romance torn from the pages of real life, just we're gonna read one during our fourth reading set, this is a great cover, love this cover, beautiful coloring on it, let's see if we can find that, I really like this cover, hold it here so you see, falling in love, number 114 from 1970, cost $244 U.S. and he's graded this thing as 3.5, cover is detached from lower staple and detachment of I guess from staples kicks it down a notch but I love this cover, beautiful cover, girl's romances, let's just say here's his money, he bet he could, he bet he could make her fall for her for his big love act and he wins, never trust a man, oh my god, check out the text, right, so this is where to say never trust a man, oh right there, the big letters right there, never trust a man, give you the full look on this thing, so this is girl's romances, number 153 from 1970, cost $1.09, comic is 1.5, 1.8, that's what he grades at that, I would grade this a lot higher than 1.8, girl with a repetition, tell me what he said, it isn't true Jill, oh she's good, girl's romances, number 146 from 1970, cost 236, he's graded this thing as 3.5, falling in love, I love the color work on the falling in love issues that I picked up, falling in love, number 113 from 1970, cost 229 and he's graded this thing as 3.5, I gotta find out the history of this, please, I love him, please don't tell him about me, oh look at the look on the other girl's face, nice, should we do one more, yeah yeah let me do this, one more falling in love, actually there's a couple more but this one was right there so I might as well grab it, where is this one, lots of tears and falling in love, falling in love, number 111 from 1969, cost 244 and he graded this thing as 4, we got Hannah Barbera, where's Waldo, number 1, Waddles, not Waldo, where's Waddles, where's Waddles, number 1 from 1971, cost 244, he's graded this thing as 2.5, 2, 2.5, he's actually has, he's written some notes here about the shipping to me and stuff like this, I guess he was doing his calculations, I like the seller, more tears, girls romances, girls romances, number 145, 1969, cost 244 and he's graded this thing as 2.5, this one for some reason, our love story, number 148, not for love, for some reason there were people bidding on this, he's graded this thing so our love story number 148 from 1970 ended up costing me 839 US and he graded this thing as 4.5, 4, 4.5, okay, for some reason I looked into this while I was bidding on it, I was watching the bids go up, I found out that people are chasing this to a certain degree, it doesn't come around, it doesn't come up for auction too often and the person that I beat this person bidding against me, his feedback is 7065, so he wanted it, I'm glad I got it, I wanted that one, actually I wanted all the romance comics, secret hearts, crazy covers, who was the guy that got you into this mess, why won't you tell us who he is Linda, love is, love is not a happy thing, don't miss, love is not a happy thing in the bottom here, so this one is secret hearts number 148 from 1970, cost $1.09 and he's graded this thing as 5.5, girls romances, he's gonna grade this one really though, oh this is one of the buy it now so I know that, oh yeah he sent me this one because he forgot to remove it, it was $99 or $1.09, it's this one, girls romances number 159, it was graded at 2, 1.52 because they're staining here and someone else had, I sent him a list of buy it now, I said okay can you throw this in my comics as well and he said sure, but by the time he was gonna take it off, someone had bought it, used buy it now, but he said he would just send it to me and he would contact them and said someone else grabbed it, okay, so glad I got this one, I had a girl, back these a little bit, but less high on top of each other, beautiful car, saucy, secret hearts, secret hearts, number 139 from 1969, cost $1.09 or $0.99 when I paid for it, he's graded this thing as 3, girlfriend while he's cheating on her, isn't this cozy, my man and my best friend, modeling with Millie, modeling with Millie number 43, modeling with Millie number 43 from 1965, cost $1.71 and he's graded this thing 1.5, 1.8 and this one here I would grade it, grade it at 2, so this one we're degree on, just from the covers, a little worn and stuff, a kiss, look at this, is he acting when he's with her, what, is he acting when he was with her, or with me, more tears, lots of tears, so this is secret hearts, number 143, 1970, cost $1.09, graded at 4, so I'll show you this, what's this one, seems like I'll find it, no I gotta do a search, it's hard finding these, what's this one called, falling in love, falling in love, a few falling in loves, that's the cover, wonder if this is one to buy it now, falling in love, number 104, number 104 from 1969, cost $2.29 and he's graded at 2.5, you know, was bidding against the resellers and he's got written here, red pen marks just on front cover, now take a look at this, this girl, this girl was not crying, wasn't drawn in crying, and someone pen marked, I need to put a red mark on her nose, her nose is red, and they put a red mark on the guy's eye, staying true to the, to the rest of the love comics, romance comics with girls crying I guess, falling in love, Jim darling, when are you going to tell Noelle about us, they're sitting in a booth, she drinking her soda or whatever it is, her shake, falling in love, another one, falling in love, number 34, so this one is number, falling in love, number 84 from 1966, cost $1.71 and he's graded this thing as 2, secret hearts, number 144 from 1970, dollar or nine, graded at 2, I'm for love, number 14, for love, number 14 from 1970, cost me 99 cents and he's graded this thing as 4.5, so this one, beyond the grave, number 6, 1976, cost $3.80 and he's graded this thing at 3.5, I'm not sure why this one costs so much, again almost all of these I was bidding me as resellers, so initially my max bid for this was like 243 and then I kicked it up, I looked into it, I'm just going on a higher price, so I kicked out my price a little bit, I should tell you what the grade on this one was, what was the grade on this, I think I told you maybe 3.5, this is more 3.5, let's see how this is gonna, GI war, GI war number three from 1973, cost $1.09 which is based 99 cents, I should say 99 cents but because Canadian dollars is dropped, now it's equivalent to $1.09, so $1.09, I graded at 4, I even put one into the side, look at this, same sideways, look at the rest of this, all star, oh this must be one of the buy it now, all star number 60, all star comics number 60 from 1976 and he's graded this thing as 2 and it cost me $1.09, graded at 2, sure graded at 2, 2.52, just a society of America, then we got Captain Savage number 18, cost me $1.09 US and he's graded this thing as 3, so maybe we search on there this, classic illustrated, classic illustrated number 162 from 1961 and it's the original and this one cost $1.84 and he's graded this thing at 2, blue beetle number 2 and this was gonna be low grade, according to his grading this would be like a 1 but we'll see, blue beetle number 2, 1967, cost $1.75 and he's graded this is 1.5, heavy spine wear, yeah and there's spine wear and tear, right, so $1.75 for blue beetle number 2 from 1967, the witching hour, like the cover, oops, witching, let's see if we can find this, the witching hour number 42, witching hour number 42 cost $0.99 and he graded this thing as 1, 1.5, the kicker is he didn't even have the picture of the front cover on there, he only had the picture of the back cover and the back cover was where the moisture damage is, you could see it, saw this thing, a little bit of scuffing, yeah, a little bit of moisture damage here, yeah, he's knocking off a lot for moisture damage. Disneyland Walt Disney Disneyland number 30 Walt Disney Disneyland USA number 30 from 1960, cost $2.34 and he's graded this thing as 1, 1.5, 5-inch upper spine split, this is only just a random buy, I'm pretty sure this is a buy it now. Stalker number 2 from 1975, cost $2.47 and he's graded this thing as $8, nice copy and he's a high grade, the upper grades, he's accurate, he doesn't really high ball unless he's going like 9.6 and he lists things as 10, which they aren't, right, check out this one, I bought some magazines, I had to get it, there were horror, Masters of Terror, Masters of Terror number 1 magazine formats, check this out, Masters of Terror number 1 from 1975, cost me $6.35 and he's graded this thing as $8.5, I actually went and bought a magazine box, I have some magazines in the past that I figure I better start storing nicer, not just comic book magazine but other magazines, okay, Terror is a master number 1, so let's put this one up here, balance it there, I know, I bought some Walt Disney stuff, I think we've looked at a couple of them but let's take a look at these of us, I like the Walt Disney stuff, I don't really do Walt Disney now but in the past it's trippy some of the stuff you can find, some of the stuff you can find, even though they should be in the public domain they're not, and anyone that prints them, shares them, Walt Disney's lawyers come after them, not just because of copyright claims but because that's not the image that Walt Disney wanted to portray, especially during, well, the earlier times with the way they treated the portrayed blacks and latinos and Walt Disney's Christmas Parade number 26, cost $284 and he's graded this thing as $2.5, stumble and all the gang, like this would be a fantastic gift to someone, Walt Disney's Walt Disney's Disneyland birthday party number 1, from 1958, cost me $214 U.S. and he's graded this thing as $1.5, but just from the cover I would grade this thing higher, I would grade it $2.5, there's no chunks missing, it's rough but there's no chunks missing and they're large, like the thickness of these things, right, compared that to thickness of a comic, right? This one I'm happy to get, I like this one, I love this stuff, I've slowly been accumulating these, Walt of just horror books and stuff, Walt of Evil, Walt of Evil number 6, from 1973, cost me $2.25 and he's graded this thing at $4.5, nice cover, clean cover, very clean, I give a slight, at least a great higher $5.5, the thing at the window, the thing at the window, witching hour, witching hour number 73, cost $1.78, graded this thing as $4.5 and it's from 1977, Flyman number 31, cost me $0.99 and it's graded at $1.5, $1.8, heavy spine wear and tear, yeah, heavy spine wear and tear, check this out, I would still give it a $2.5, there's wear and tear here, to me a two is, I have a lot of two comics, I don't mind them, but they should have more wear and tear than that, DC superstars, this is a buy it now one I did, it was bidding on this, oh no, there it is, DC superstar number 8, I got this as a buy it now, for $1.9, this is DC superstars number 8 from 1976, cost me $1.09 and it's graded at $4.5, it's Ernie Chen, nice, Ernie Chen is the guy from the cover, is Ernie Chen, you can see this signature here, oops where is it, I don't know if you can see it, no you won't be able to see it, it's too dark maybe, it's too small, but he's the artist for Conan the Barbarian, a savage sort of Conan, he did a lot of work in savage sort of Conan, love his art in savage sort of Conan, Adam Strange in a dynamic other world adventure, Surfin' Wheels, I think this is a buy it now, Surfin' Wheels number 4, $1.09, it's graded at this thing is $2.5 and it's from 1970, I love the obscure weird superhero stuff that came out from different publishers from a lot of Indies and stuff, E-Man number 1, just grabbed it, paid fair price for these, $1.09, he's graded at this thing is $2.5, maybe a higher grade, yeah definitely a higher grade, this is like a 4, I haven't opened up the book yet but just from the looks of it, Woody Whitpecker, nice, nice, nice, I like Woody, I love the laugh, Woody Whitpecker's county fair number 2 from 1958 and this costs me $2.03 US and is graded at this thing is $2.5, small tear and lower spine, nice copy, Sleeping Beauty, Sleeping Beauty number 1, Walt Disney, Sleeping Beauty number 1 from 1959, costs $5.14 and he's graded at this thing is $2.5, Jungle War Stories number 2 from 1963, costs $3.04 and he's graded at this thing is $5.5, nice copy from 1963, we read this one, National Velvet, I think it was this one we wrote, I think this is the first, this is the first one, no I can't remember, I think we read this one, four color, $1,195, National Velvet, costs me $3.10 and is graded at $3, first inside page is tape on upper edge, which is okay to me, National Valvets, Marvel's Collectors, Marvel's Collectors, item classics number 12, costs $2.47 and is graded at this thing is $5 and is from 1967 and this is a reprint of, I believe these are compilation of reprints, so much writing on your, I don't know what issues they're reprinting though, haunted number 12 from 1973, costs $0.99 graded at $3, sometimes little Harry finds strange things, sometimes they find them, also $0.10, stay away from little Harry, he's got bad luck, Binky, Binky number 67 and this one's definitely like a $1.15, he would have graded for sure, I would have graded too, Binky number 67 from 1969, costs me $0.99, he's graded at $1.15, okay, scruffed up the cover, still no chunks missing, like I'm still in attack, like there's no chunks missing whatsoever, boxes, the box is getting empty, not stacked up so high, more damage, because some of these were mid-grade to higher grade, I guess, very huge though, I'm pretty sure this was buy it now, midnight tails, midnight tails, oh there it is, yeah it was buy it now, buy it now $1.09 or 99 cents, graded at $4, I like this cover, and it's from 1973, midnight tails number 4, e-recover, misunderstood me, I didn't say this was the L train, a one-way trip to ghostly enchantment, featuring the midnight philosopher, and arcane in one sapon at a time, had to get this, had to get this, had to get this, oh no I closed that, I didn't want to close that one, let's see, zombies, I don't know why I got it, but I got it, zombies versus cheerleaders, one of the reasons I got it is because 5-infinity productions, because they were independent publishers and I've seen some of their stuff around, I'll show you the cover, zombies versus cheerleaders, Halloween special from 2015, bought it for $0.99, it's graded at $9.810, which it's not a 10, nothing is a 10, well they say certain things are 10s, but nothing is a 10, beware number 6 from 1974, cost $0.99, graded at $3, nice cover, nice horror cover, I might do something with all of these during Halloween, this one's rough, I think this was by it now maybe, Captain Strange Suspense Stories, number 77, Captain Adam from 1965, cost $1.35 US and he's graded, this thing is $1.5 and it is scruffed up, what grade this thing is to, again it was graded to $2.5 because there's no chunks missing, it's just scruffed up a lot, they're all by it now, Avengers number 10 from 2016, all right, $0.99, he's graded, this thing is $9.6, $9.8 and these are $4 books right just off the rack, so I, you know, like I said, I dropped Marvel, I think they did it, I'm not sure when that Deadpool came out, that was in 2016, 2015, 2016 probably, looks like it's Mark Wade, what the story, so Avengers number 10 for $0.99, Avengers number 6 and again this one, Deadpool on the cover, Avengers number 6, 2016 for $0.99 and it's graded, this thing is $9.6, $9.8, haunted library number 29, number 29 from 1976, $0.99 and he's graded, this thing is $3.5, invaders, invaders number 20 from 1977, $0.99 or $1.92, graded at $2.5, $1.9, invaders number 9 from 1976, cost $1.09, graded at 4, this one I was happy to get, like the cover, I really like these old school covers, let me find it for you, Beanie, it's not there, I must have been by it now, really, is it this thing or something else, Beanie and Sissel, the search was not picking it up, let me make sure we've got the spelling right, well maybe, there it is, Beanie and Sissel from 1962, okay, cost $0.99 and he's graded this thing, ah he's graded this thing $0.05, centerfold is missing, cutting into one storyline, so I gotta make a little note of this, sorry, that way I know, okay, centerfold missing, missing into one storyline and I look this one up, if it's in good shape, it's going, it's expensive, ah, even if it's complete it's expensive, but this one for $0.99, well worth it, I like the cover, maybe I framed the cover, right, as long as I got the note in the back, right, oh what it is, Midnight Tales, I think was about it now as well, Midnight Tales number 7 for $1.09, okay, and he's graded this thing as $4.05 and it's from 1974, love this cover, very happy about this one, Weird Mystery Tales, it's a crazy cover, weird mystery tales, take a look at it, I'll bring a close-up so you see it, Weird Mystery Tales number 22 from 1975, $0.99 and he's graded this thing as a $4, Getting Tours the End, Fight the Enemy number 3 from 1967, Fight the Enemy number 3 from 1967, cost $249, $254 US and he's graded this thing as a $3, a lot of the stuff from the previous comics where Jay or Josh was asking me about propaganda in comics, war comics are huge, huge, huge, Amazing Adventures number 12 from 1972, this cost $2.04 and he's graded this thing as 2, small pieces missing from front cover lower right, so he's graded this thing as a 2, I mean this is beast, one of the first early issues of beasts, hairy beast, and there's a chunk missing here, right, I looked at this one that was bidding for on it, the rest of the cover looks beautiful, really, if that chunk wasn't missing there this would be you know at least a 5, 5.5, but it graded a 2, small piece missing, let's see, Fighting Forces, Fighting Forces number 96 from 1965, cost me a $1.59 and he's graded this thing as 2, the cap number 3 from 1967, cost me $0.99 and he's graded this thing as 2.5, I would grade this thing a lot higher than 2.5, I don't know a lot higher but higher, I give this thing a 4, Marines in action number 13, Marines in action number 13 from 1957, cost 3.24 and he's graded this thing as 1.5, cost, what did it cost, 3.24, yeah I would give this one a 2, 1.52, there's chipping on the cover, yeah I agree with this one reading, comic is complete though, another battle comic, battle number 22, 1953 and these are pre-code so these are sweet, so this is battle number 22 from 1953, cost me $8.79 and he's graded this thing as 1.5, 1.8, thread through spine, thread through the spine, I'm gonna check this one out, nice cover here, chew on this for a while, you scummies, this one, this one cost a fair bit, I wasn't expecting this to cost this much, I looked into it though, people were, I guess it's sought after, the people I was bidding against, they're into the thousands, one person kicked it up a fair bit, but this is Roger Dodger number 5, cost 27.99, I couldn't find this on eBay, any other price, I saw one that sold that was way worse condition than this and this is, he's again, because this has got moisture damage, he's graded this thing as 0.5 to 1, but you know, I don't know if grading moisture damage kicks it down that much, not on this level, this thing cost 27.99, Roger Dodger number 5 from 1952, check this one out, let's put this one on the side too, so that was the second most expensive book, Battle number 5 from 1951, this thing cost me 13.15 US and he's graded this thing as 1.5, this was a third most expensive book in the lot, yeah I would grade this as a 2, but beautiful cover, the desk trap of General Woo, I don't know who the artist is for this, I did this as a buy it now, this one, just because Miss Fury number 1 from 1991, it's limited edition numbered, it cost me a dollar or nine, it's graded this in 6.5, you can find this, it's cheap, I paid a fair price for it, maybe a little bit less, but I just numbered here, 2,307, at the time, check this out, from 1991 Canadian price on this was $6.599, US price on this was 4.95, now that is expensive, from Invetra Comics, put inflation on top of that, adjusted for devaluing your fiat currency, I mean that's a lot, Superman 248 from 1972, it cost me $1.09 and he's graded this thing as 2, fair value, hey we're down to the last handful of bucks, that's it, let's check this out, Space Family Robinson, number 14 from 1965, cost me $0.99, he's graded this thing as 1.5, minor moisture damage to the upper edge, nice intact cover, yeah moisture damage up here, that's moisture damage, take it down to a 1.5, this one I paid way too much for, way too much for, I don't know why I paid this much for it, it was silly, very silly, but it is what we do when we get trigger happy, this is X-Men number 46, okay and it's from 1968, I paid six dollars for this and the reason is too much, it wouldn't be too much of who's complete, but it's not complete, third inside page is missing effecting storyline, so he's graded this thing as 0.5, zero and 0.5 to 0.5 and it's true it's missing, so I need to you know incomplete, he's got incomplete written back here too but I'm going to write this down, third inside page, third inside, I think when I was bidding I put a maximum bid at first, I usually don't go back, I do go back adjusted a little bit but I forgot to check the description again that it was missing, so we paid a lot for this one, hot rod racer, racer, where are you, hot rod racer number five from 1965, and then of course 575 and he's graded this thing as 2.5, inside cover covers our cream color around edges, okay, so that's what you see here and then this sort of leads into the breakup of the paper, nice cover otherwise, no chunks missing, it was like bidding against on this one, yeah 4600, hot rods, I'm gonna do a search on this one, hot rod 61 from 1963, ended up costing 555 and he's graded this thing as 2.5, inside covers our cream color around edges, it's a nice cover, this is more than 2.5, nice cover, it's just a darkening of pages, kicked it down, as far as grade goes, I would definitely rate it as more than 2.5, this is more like a 4.5 to me, that's staining down here, kick it down to a 4, 3.5, 4, agent, secret agent number 10 from 1967, cost 386 and he's graded this thing as 4.5, I would get this thing higher, why now, is it 2.5? It would have been nice, I sent this one for sure, I think so, Superman, Superman, Superman, it was 230, kick this up, Superman number 327, from 1976, ended up costing me 230 and he's graded this thing as a 6, a reseller kicking it out, I think I would have liked to have gotten this in 99 cents, with 230 it is, run buddy run, run buddy run, number 1 from 1967, cost 380 and he's graded this thing as 6.5, T-man, number 36 from 1956 and it cost $4.34 and he's graded this thing as 1.5, staining to front and back cover but inside is very nice, good to know, so golden age book, well almost a golden age book, we end but still has the comic, it's one of the early issues that put out the comic code, right, the seal of approval, censorship, so that was a serious haul, I still have a handful of books, about half as much of books there that he's going to ship out to me and he said he was going to put on some more romance comics that I'd like to bid on and those, most of those are going to go for 99 cents or $1.50 or something like this or two bucks max and with this buy and whatever is coming from the guy after this, I've pretty much maxed out my comic book budget for a few months guaranteed, right, and I'm going to have to cut back on my poll list a little bit of the, on the weeklies and the monthlys basically but I'd liked it and I really, one of the things I ended up doing that sort of justified this buy as well is I wanted to talk about diving into the dollar bins, right, because you could get some amazing, amazing comics in the dollar bins so go ahead and map and if the comic book stores, they regularly refill that stuff, the dollar bins and sometimes they throw in goodies and stuff like this, so I've picked up some number ones, I've picked up a lot of valians from the dollar bins when no one was chasing the valians or people weren't chasing the valians or certain people were chasing the valians and if you're lucky to live in an area where nobody's chasing valians then it's all for you I guess, right, and we put out a video of that where I bought a whole bunch of valians stacked together and that was a lot of fun grabbing those, right, that filled up a lot of gaps, I'm assuming we're starting a lot of series and that's how I feel about these types of buys, it's just randoms and every now and then I go through a book, pull one out and read and sometimes when I have friends like, you know, if they want to read something I showed them some stuff and put some of the books out for reading copies or whatnot, right, but it was fun and I definitely, definitely love the Adventure Comics 267, this is definitely cream of the crop, right, second appearance of Legion of Superiors and a beautiful cover of that, this was a very good buy, but it did kick up the price, okay, so officially we're not going to do a comic book haul video for a while and that's a good thing, we've got a lot of readings to do for set number, set number four and a lot of ASMR math, math stuff related that we need to get done, right, I thought I'd share this with you, hope you enjoyed, that's it for now, I'll see you guys in next video.


From Las Vegas, it's theCUBE. Covering VMworld 2018. Brought to you by VMware and its ecosystem partners. Welcome back everyone. It's the live CUBE coverage here in Las Vegas for VMworld 2018. Three days of wall-to-wall coverage. We've got two sets. I'm John Furrier, my co-student and man. Our next guest is Adam Razner, who's the Vice President of Technology Operations AutoNation. Welcome to theCUBE. Thanks for joining us. So you guys are a customer of all this virtualization stuff. What's going on in your company? Tell us what's happening at AutoNation. What are you guys at now with IT operations? Where you guys going? How are you guys building to the cloud? What's the strategy? Sure, so AutoNation's exploding. We have 280 new car dealerships. We have 80 collision centers. We just launched our own precision parts line. We're also looking at other technologies to automate the car buying experience. So we want to make like an Amazon-like car buying experience online. So that requires a lot new technology and digitalization. Yeah, talk a little bit about that. Cause I know I've looked at cars in the last couple of years and now I do so much of it online. I feel like I could do the whole experience for my phone if I wanted. So how much are you a technology company and how much of that's cloud and what are those dynamics that you've been going through the last couple of years? Yeah, I think the millennials this day, they're willing to go online and do the whole car buying experience end to end from the buying of the car to the financing of the car all online. And we can roll a flat bed up to their house and deliver a car and they sign in an iPad and they're good to go. And I think that's where things are going. So to do all that requires a lot of technology on the back end. So we have a lot of on-prem infrastructure. I'd say we're still 90% on-prem, 10% in an Azure AWS infrastructure. But that's going to change in time as a lot of these new applications are written. As you guys are doing the digital transformation and sounds like there's a lot of action going on, new things happening, you're in the app business. You got to build apps for user experience. So you got to make the infrastructure work for you, right? And make it failover, fault-tolerant, all that good stuff, recovery. How do you look at that? How do you run at the speed you need to run at? What are some of the key things that you guys have to do to keep on that treadmill, but yet not drop the ball in delivering apps to the users that drive the business? I think there's a few things. I think one is we have to be able to keep the lights on with our existing infrastructure, our existing apps while we build these next generation of applications. We have to be able to scale up as needed and scale down, be able to support some of the new mobile platforms that we're going to be working on. So there's a lot of work going on and DR is a big part of this too. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because data is at the core here. So can you tell us that role of data? And then you say data protection, you know, how is that changing? What was it like before you went through this transformation? Then we'll of course get into what you're using. Sure, so we actually were using an old Microsoft data protection manager product and just in scale the way we needed to, we were having some performance issues. And so, you know, data protection, while not very sexy, it's something you have to do. It's table stakes and IT. It doesn't innovate. It doesn't make me sell more cars. Doesn't innovate, help the business sell more cars, but it's something we have to do. So we looked out there at the, what I call the legacy players and also the next gen players and went through a full proof of concept with several of them. All right, and what were you looking for? What was kind of the key objectives you said? You know, data protection doesn't make you money or didn't make you money. We've talked to some customers that's like, wait, if I do some cool snapshotting, I can leverage that data. I can do some more things with my developers and everything. So what was the goal of this transformation? And then what was the criteria that you went through to make a decision? Yeah, so the data protection was the initial piece and we just needed a rock solid backup and recovery solution. And we started off with just simple, hey, we wanted an integrated hardware software solution. We wanted something that could scale infinitely. We wanted a predictive cost model. And so a lot of these older legacy players don't play well in that space. They're expensive to support.  So we wanted something that was a little bit more nimble. And then down the road, as we got into it, once the backup and recovery piece was kind of under control, we started using our new solution for other things in secondary storage, which was added bonus. You haven't mentioned what is the solution that you chose and what were the key things that led to that? So after going through several POCs with NetBackup, Rubrik and Cohesity, we ultimately chose Cohesity for performance, cost, ease of implementation, ease of the user interface, ease of management. And what was the comparison, like Rubrik, because on the floor here you see Rubrik and Cohesity next to huge booths. What's the difference between those two? Yeah, so we actually put them side by side in our data center full blown POCs and there were some performance differences. There were some technical challenges that we had with some of the other products. And ultimately our engineering team felt most comfortable with Cohesity after spending six or eight months in a really in depth POC.  I love the bake off, it's when they have the answer like that. So when you look at the solutions, are you guys mostly interested in the software side of the business that they had? What was the key piece of it? I think we're interested in the whole thing. I had been at other places where we had done the NetBackup and data domain story and you're having a problem at three o'clock in the morning and you've got the finger pointing, is it a software issue, is it a hardware issue? We wanted the one throat to choke kind of solution. And so that was a requirement right off the bat. Whatever we chose was going to be an integrated hardware software platform. Adam, walk us through from the deployment to the day two action. How did it go? What surprised you? What thrilled you? What challenges? Yeah, we've been a customer for, I think we were a very early customer probably about almost two years now. And so there's a lot we didn't know. There was a lot of things in the product that actually weren't fully mature. We first started the POC and so we went through a full blown bake off and one of the things we noticed it was much easier to implement. We didn't require any professional services to get it up and running and the technical support we were super impressed with. So I think the team after going through the motions really felt like this was the product for us. And again, really mainly around backup and recovery but ultimately decided that we were going to use it for other things too. Yeah, Adam, I was walking through the hallways yesterday, Stu and I were both checking out the booths and I hear a lot of conversations that comes up around the Cohesity, Rubrik, all these different cloud solutions. Some are rinse and repeat old models that just have, I'm not going to say those guys are but the customers are concerned about, I don't want the old way. I want the new way. I want to be cloud native. I want to work with cloud. One show to throw. I need software. I need to have agility. And I need to have auto healing, all these kind of stuff. How do you sort through that? I mean, how have you been through the POC but your peers that are out here at VMworld, they're squinting through the noise going, okay, I got to really dig in here. What's your advice to those guys and gals? I think it's really challenging for the people that are neck deep in some of these other legacy products because it's a little bit hard to move. It's costly, it's expensive and it's a significant effort. I was in a rare position where I was able to start net new and so that made it a little bit easier but I think you start with a slow migration, start setting up your new infrastructure on a next gen platform and then slowly migrate off. These legacy players are very expensive and they don't scale very well. That's probably one of our biggest challenges. One of the things you said, you started with a couple of use cases but you're now doing a bunch more. Talk about that, what more? What are the new things you're doing and what's the roadmap look for at AutoNation? So we had a lot of apps that were probably not needing Tier 1, NetApp, all SSD high performance sand. I call it my Cadillac of storage. It's our highest performance applications and we were having some apps that the hardware was starting to go bad and so the only place I could put it was either on my NetApp or I didn't have any place else. So the story changed over time. Cohesity became not only our backup and recovery data protection appliance, we started landing some of our Tier 2 storage on Cohesity. So moving things that we would normally put on NetApp, putting it on Cohesity for 40% of the cost and it's a win-win. All right, so Adam, I couldn't help noticing you've got the DrivePink pin on. So maybe tell our audience a little bit about the AutoNation DrivePink initiative and do you have relationships with the suppliers here? Pat Gelsinger this morning talked about we need to be as a technology community more doing good. It's foundational to what we're doing so we'd love you to tell us. AutoNation, it's one of our core charities is Cancer Awareness. I think we've donated almost $30 million. Every car that you buy, we try to put the DrivePink license plate. And I think not only for business, I think in IT we also have to have a lens to some of these charities and some of these things that need our help. Mission-driven businesses are doing well now. People expect that not just for profit by the people involved. Anyone can work anywhere these days. Talent, it's also good. I mean, it's one of those things. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right, so take away from the show. So far, your impression as a practitioner is in the IT footprint space. We're looking at a cloud on the horizon. We just, any best of science just on has been part of the early days. Cloud's coming fast. Networking's got to get better. You got to have seamless solutions integrating well together. How do you make sense of all this content coming out of VMworld? Yeah, I think what I get out of this and kind of, you know, AWS, all these conferences is that everything we buy has to be extendable to the cloud. You know, we still have a lot of on-premise infrastructure but everything we implement has to be cloudable and has to be able to be used in our future use cases, so. Yeah, I would love, we're talking a lot here a lot in the keynote this morning. It's like, right, this move, we know it's going to take time and Amazon's doing some things, VMware's doing some things. How's the industry doing? How do you see the progression? What would you like to see them do more or better? As you know, we come back in a year if I give you kind of that magic wand. Yeah, you know, I always leave a lot of these conferences and I feel like I'm behind the eight ball in our cloud migration, but companies like us have to have a lot of legacy apps. They're slow to move and so I leave the conference. I feel like I'm behind the eight ball but I get back and I talk to my peers and many of them are in the same situation. I am, they're still maturing. But I think yes, I think that the net new generation apps that we're going to build are going to be in the cloud because of the capabilities to autoscale. And so I think that, again, anything we buy, anything we implement, we have to have a lens to that going forward. Well, thanks for coming on theCUBE. Really appreciate it. It sounds like you're happy with Cohesity. No, they've done a great job. We're really happy customers. How long was that bake off, by the way? Did you ran that? We did it about six months. That's pretty good at all. Yeah, we actually had some, again, we were very early to the game, so there were features in the product that we needed that they didn't have yet. And our agreement was, we'll proceed after you can meet these requirements. And they did. And Pat Gelsinger and Andy Jassy on the stage, one of the things that Andy Jassy who's been on theCUBE talks about all the time is listening to customers. Sounds like they're listening to you guys. Absolutely, absolutely. You have to. It's such a competitive environment now. You know, if you can't meet the customers with minimal requirements, there's somebody else that can. You got to be cloud compatible. AutoNation, breaking it down here, here at VMworld, bringing the practitioner perspective, the customer perspective, all these suppliers. Try to bring cloud and on-premises together. It's theCUBE bringing you all the action here at VMworld 2018. I'm John Furrier with Stu Miniman. Stay with us for more coverage after this short break.


Today, with Orca Media, we present the sixth episode of Exploring Climate Change in Vermont, with host Steve Lobb. We will feature the full Moon Organic Farm of David Zuckerman and family in Heinsberg, Although the emphasis in our dialogue concerns building healthy, rich soil and preventing phosphate runoff into waterways, David speaks of the effects of climate change locally and how extreme thunderstorms present difficulties for farmers. As our film crew was videoing on June 18th, the sky turned exceedingly dark with huge thunderclouds and torrential rains followed, which caused havoc on the roadways and instantly raised the level of rivers and streams. Now we will turn to conversations while walking around the farm. Hi David, nice to be here to see you and your farm. I remember some years ago, I was at Interveil, your farm there in Burlington, and I saw this farm as a wonderful experiment and thought to myself then, this is a wonderful idea for all of Vermont farmers. Well, it fits for some, it doesn't fit for everybody. There are a lot of different kinds of farmers and they farm their own different things. Not everybody wants to do vegetables, but yeah. Of course, farming includes a whole lot more than just that. But now I see that years later now, you're doing the real thing and this is wonderful to see and to see an example of organic farms for present and of course future. Well, thank you and the for real thing might mean ownership as opposed to renting the land and in buying this land and some of the infrastructure and tractors and implements and fixing up the wash station. We went almost a half million dollars in debt, which I just point out because I think a lot of folks don't always realize whether it be a vegetable farm or a dairy farm, the kind of numbers people are talking about in terms of debt load. Sometimes with other professions, people talk about the debt load coming out of school and how people need to be paid well because of all this debt they have. A lot of farmers are taking on the same kind of debt, but aren't necessarily getting a remuneration in the same way because partly we're trying to provide a basic need, which is food. But there is this balance and as we get into climate change and we get into phosphorus and water quality, how farmers are trying to manage their land to do the best they can for the environment while also matching that very narrow margin of profitability when you're trying to pay off that kind of debt. So if you don't mind me bringing that into the conversation. No, that's very important. One of the things when I bought this farm, the old dairy farm had put in a ditch right here. You can see this little swale down. We've mowed some of this area because not right into the ditch, but we're going to have some of our pastured chickens. We've got about 30 laying hens. They'll be on this taller grass. But the ditch was used as a drainage scenario and those are on farms all over the state. And depending on the farm, that ditch is either collecting a lot of water and becoming a bit more eroded and running out. Or in this case, it's a very flat ditch and it goes over a thousand feet before it gets to the woods, where then it starts entering some streams. And it's very grassed, which helps slow any water flow. I've never seen water actually flowing in this ditch. I've seen water work its way into it, but at that time this might have been corn or other surfaces that weren't as good at absorbing water as the grass fields that we have now. So those are some of the things that farmers are inheriting and some are useful to the farmer and some are a relic of a past farm. But those ditches are part of the whole phosphorus discussion. And also those ditches were more reasonable when we had long, showery rains over the course of eight or 10 or 12 hours as used to be more of the norm. As we now, in fact, with potentially a looming thunderstorm right now, we're seeing more severe storms now. Heavier doses of rain in a shorter window of time.  And that erosion carries that phosphorus laden sediment into the ditch and then down into the water, into the streams, into the tributaries. Or for those farms right next to a bigger river, sometimes right off into the river.  Summary, our farm is about 150 acres. And we produce about 20 to 25 acres of vegetables. We produce about 20 to 30 hogs to slaughter each year. And another 80 or 90 piglets that we sell each spring. We also raise meat birds between, we've been doing about 1,000. We're at about 750 this year. All of our meats and vegetables are certified organic. Occasionally, the pork is not certified in the end because not all slaughterhouses are certified organic. And depending where we can get our pigs in and who's going to make the cuts we want, it doesn't all end up certified. But we raise them organically. Organic grain, pastured, no antibiotics or shots for those pigs, et cetera. And some people think that pastured is nearly organic, but it's not. It really depends on the feed they're getting as well. And those other, whether they get hormones or shots. Even non-GMO grain fed is, in my mind, an improvement. But it's a long way from organic. Non-GMO grain still has herbicides and pesticides and synthetic fertilizers on the ground that the feed is growing on. Right behind you, we actually have a high tunnel. We could either look in the door or look in from the side. But we have two high tunnels that we grow winter greens in, as well as summer tomatoes. So our tomato plants are starting to get some size to them and some fruits down at the bottom. And these are all direct marketed either through our CSA or through the farmer's market. We direct market about 75% of our product. And then we wholesale about 25% of our gross is wholesale. But the tomatoes, we tend not to wholesale very much. There's already a big production line and supply line for wholesale on tomatoes. But again, you want good airflow to keep diseases down. And so we trim back the plant some. And these are about to get clipped up again. They're just getting to where they need a new clip added on to their stature. Actually, Steve opened the discussion with it being David Zuckerman's farm. I want to be very clear. It is David Zuckerman and Rachel Nevitt's farm. And Rachel Nevitt's name could almost be first, because she ends up doing so much management while I'm partly Lieutenant Governor. But she does all the greenhouse starts. So my memory is going to be early April. OK, from seed? From seed. And then transplanted in early mid-May. We could probably start a couple weeks earlier, because these high tunnels would protect them from the cold of May.  Oh, yeah. But we tend to do a lot of other things early. And so we don't always get the tomatoes in as early as we'd like, which is just a reality. This is the, we call it the children's garden. We run a summer camp for kids. And so we plant some plants in there early. And then when they start next week, they'll plant some more things. But they'll have some things that they plant here. Like they might plant carrots next week. But then they'll go out to the field where we already have carrots that are coming up pretty good. And they can see and learn all the different stages of agriculture. Because in one week, they can't really see it to fruition in the children's garden. But each camp session sees the work of the prior week and more. And then they can go in the fields where they see bigger crops. Here we have one of our two irrigation ponds. This one, we actually had drained almost all the way down already this year. And we just pumped water from the other pond over to fill this one as much as we could before we start watering the fields again if it doesn't rain. So our property is this pond. All the fields, including that barn, we don't own the brick house. But we own those far fields with that golden straw on it. That's straw cover crop, rye cover crop, that is partly for soil containment. And then also we cut and bail some of the straw for bedding for our pigs. But other straw, we chop and turn back into the soil to try to build organic matter. One of the things with any farming is it's hard to keep your organic matter levels up. And I'm still working to improve my ability to build it up as opposed to deplete it. When you have open soil, which with organic ag, you do a lot of cultivation, typically, you tend to lose some of your organic matter. So you've got to be pretty aggressive at growing cover crops and turning organic matter back in to try to build that up. All right. So we have transplanted sweet corn here, including the block farther away. You can see some a little bit taller. The tallest stuff is over there. It's already up to about mid-thigh, which on June 18th I feel pretty good about. It's even starting to put up its tassels a little bit. So sometime by mid-early July, we'll have ears of corn. We primarily cultivate with mechanical cultivation, but you'll actually see a couple spots here where some weeds are not killed by the mechanical cultivation. And we'll come through and we'll hoe these couple spots. But the goal is to do as much of it mechanically as possible because the labor cost is quite high when you start having to hoe every single crop. So there's sunflowers and you've got successions of sunflowers. You've got your first planting here and your second planting there. This is basil we transplanted, which actually we're gonna start harvesting tomorrow for our CSA members. Celeriac is the shorter, darker green. We've got some dill and cilantro here, head lettuce, cut lettuce in the next bit over, the green-red and red-green mix. Under the row cover are spicy mix and arugula. That's one way to prevent pests, little bugs from getting on those crops. Again, as an organic farm, we're very limited in what pesticides we can spray because they have to be naturally derived. And there's very little that addresses the flea beetle problem. So we use row cover for that, which is another job for people to put on after a seed. And beyond that is spinach. So this block has a pretty diverse range of things, whereas the block over here is 100% corn. We grow about four acres of sweet corn. Pretty hot commodity at the farmer's market, members like it. One thing that a lot of farms are doing more and more of now is cover cropping. A lot of organic farms have been doing it for a long time, like I said, in order to put organic matter back in the soil. A lot of conventional dairy farms are now starting to plant winter rye or winter oats on their corn crops. Again, it gets started growing right as they're harvesting, and then it grows up through the fall and holds that soil in place. And then it's a plant matter that gets incorporated in the spring or some of them spray kill it, but it still holds the soil, which is a benefit. One of the things we do with cover crops, you've got two examples here. This is clover. I just actually, there's another block above and there were two more blocks that literally this morning I mowed. We then disc them into the soil. We spread compost on top of that, till that in, and now we're starting to plant plants into it all in one to two days. Ideally, we would do the cover crop incorporation about a week or two earlier. We just got a little behind. But this is a clover cover crop. That's a winter rye cover crop. Both of those are gonna get chopped and then put into the soil to break down and build the organic matter. So that's what you see behind you here. And some blocks we don't grow vegetables on every year. These ones are cover crop blocks, whereas these other ones are vegetables. We also try to contour the direction of our blocks to the slope of the land so that we have green drive strips to buffer any rolling down water from the slope and to try to reduce erosion. We do see a little bit of erosion in each block and that gets caught on those green drive rows. But it's tough and growing on a slight slope, luckily this is not particularly sloped, but it's great sandy soil. But in the deli-u drains, it's tricky to not lose a little bit of it. These are chicken tractors. So for our meat birds, we put those on the clover cover crops and move them every day, twice a day. And the chickens can roam around within the cage, so they are pastured, not free range, technically.  It helps make them sweet. We raise about 30 to 45 birds per pen. And at about seven weeks, they're ready to move towards your plate. So this is our potatoes. He just hilled these this morning, again. And that's probably the last hilling they'll get because they're gonna get too floppy. And that block up there is our kales and a little bit of broccoli. And we got some more Napa cabbage and then that's almost all fall cabbage that just went in today. They got the plants in, the hoops on, the row cover over it to protect it from those same flea beetles that affect your rugula, those little black beetles. So this morning, this was that green clover cover crop this tall. And I mowed it, we disked it, chisel plowed, disked, then we'll till it and plant in it. And part of that was to get that material down into the soil. Again, normally we would do this way to week and we probably will be able to way to week because we got all our cabbages in there. But these two blocks are just turned in today and they'll be planted into over the next couple of weeks. How many farm hands do you have? We have two to three year round and right now we have eight additional seasonal. Okay. Yeah, so that's 11, well, another seasonal, nine seasonal. So we have 11 or 12 people plus me and my spouse right now. But that's not that many for all you've got going. Well, they're good. If you do your tractor work on the right timing, you can keep, you know, that corn, if we can keep them out of whole corn, we can save ourselves a lot of time. So if you cultivated just the right time and I just, as we walked, I was taking note of the things I need to cultivate tomorrow. I didn't want to cultivate today because if it had rained, any of these rains, right after I cultivated, some of those weeds would reroute. So if I cultivate, if it rains tonight, if I wait till late tomorrow or Wednesday, then I cultivate, then they'll dry back out on the surface again. So, Zucchini and summer squash, we just started harvesting them two weeks ago and had good markets within the last two Saturdays and now we're starting to wholesale because we're starting to have a little extra. So we got about two and a half beds of those, cucumbers and pickling cucumbers. And then we've got melons, watermelons. Lots of good stuff. This is another planting of melons. So the first melons have been uncovered because they flowered. The second melons have been uncovered. They're smaller, but they started flowering. The third melons, when they plant melons, we cover them up to protect them from the cucumber beetle, let the plants get bigger and more robust. Then when they start flowering, you uncover them so they can be pollinated. And by then, the leaves can take a little bit of damage and the plant will be okay. All right. From the cucumber beetle. All right, that's a very interesting progression. Pest protection. Earlier in the season, when we first transplanted our Zucchini and summer squash, it was both pest protection and frost protection. So that row cover will add two to four degrees. So those nights that are just light frosts, those crops will live, which lets us get them in earlier and then harvest plants earlier. We actually will do a combo. If we get them in particularly, and then it's a particularly cold night along with the row cover will run irrigation. So right now this is mostly water with drip irrigation to conserve water and to get water underneath the plastic to the roots. But we can use those overhead pipes. One row of pipes will water this whole block. And so if you sprinkle water on right during a frost, then you can withstand the frost from your crops because the water will freeze. And as it's freezing, it's releasing warmth. And that warmth it releases keeps your crop from freezing. Some of these will incorporate and we'll just put another cover crop on them. So you put sometimes a couple rounds of cover crops on in a year to just keep growing matter for the soil. And the more organic matter you have, not only is it beneficial for the farmer in terms of you can count on adding less nitrogen if you have more organic matter, when you're doing your formulations of what you're fertilizing. Also more organic matter in the soil absorbs more water. So if you've got richer soil from an organic matter perspective and tilth, then when it does rain that soil could hold more water, which means less of that erosion. So I'm trying to get more organic matter in the soil so I don't get erosion coming off the slope. How's it going guys? Looks good, I saw up at the other end getting all those random little ones last chance for it grows over. Maybe it's gonna rain, we need rain. To finish up this program, here are some ending thoughts on global weather patterns and Vermont. Extreme flooding continues again this summer, all throughout Japan, China and Southeast Asia, displacing millions of people due to the warming of the Pacific Ocean. This warming has effects as far away as Vermont. Very alarming to me, having lived in Sweden is the unprecedented drought and heat waves there, right now, resulting in over a hundred uncontrolled forest fires that reach even above the Arctic Circle. Sweden with all its wealth and help from the European Union has no means to contain these fires. Know that middle Sweden and lower Sweden have a very similar climate and forests to Vermont. Alaska, Canada, Siberia and even Greenland this year as well as last summer are also having extreme forest fires sending soot northward to the Arctic and polluting the marine environment there in very democratic Norway, also with forest fires. The population is challenging big oil and there are plans to export wind energy from Norway to the European Union. Wind energy is another marvelous example to replace fossil fuel. Though some people consider windmills ugly, the use of fossil fuel is much worse. Even large scale hydro has many problems, especially with aging and deteriorating dams. So beware and do all you can to prevent climate change from bringing Vermont to the brink. Phenomena of weather nowadays happens faster than one might think. On a happier note, some good news is that Palau in the Pacific is ridding themselves of fossil fuel and planned to be 100% solar by 2020. What a good example for a country with little wealth. Iceland is cutting back on the use of fossil fuels and most of their energy needs come from thermal energy. Hawaii and California are leading the way in US with many alternative schemes for energy production. Another exciting story is the new Marshall Plan for Climate Change by 28 year old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the upcoming youngest Congresswoman from New York. We should all listen up because she thinks big and smart, like good leaders do. This is not to mention her historical name, Alexandria. Finally, I call it good news is that Vermont has a bright leader in government, David Zuckerman of the Full Moon Farm, plus others in and out of government who are aware and doing something about climate change locally. We here can set an example that goes worldwide, but government can only do so much and the rest is up to you and me. All of us need to be alert and do all we can on every level to counteract the bad effects of climate change. Of climate change.