or even started it that is impressive that's gonna be very bright there is my camera blurry this phone hey guys uh... i'm live if you're watching this later uh... this is filmed at uh... nine just before nine thirty a m saturday may fourteenth just waiting for a couple of guys to get in here i'm just trying to organize my videos for the week so that i can uh... start editing them i put them all into uh... individual folders uh... sorted by day monday put it in monday's day the tuesday put it in tuesday's day from thursday into thursday and uh... i gotta go and edit them all also we got friday didn't get as much content as i wanted this week uh... morning uh... morning guys there's your comments are starting to come in this window is a little bright there i don't want to sit in darkness so we're gonna have to deal with it i like the light south texas hey guys newfoundland south wisconsin there from jordan cool england north dakota seattle cool and you guys are all over the place astral shot you're yeah absolutely oh hey that's brit hey brit are you on your way home yet? i'm bored brit's at uh... getting some work done on her car she should be home soon i got bored have i heard anything have i heard anything about the w900 what w900 i haven't mentioned any w900 on my channel but if there was one no i haven't i haven't heard anything about any w900 yet still waiting i was supposed to know on friday yesterday but uh... i'm gonna have to wait until monday now i guess we'll see youtube doesn't uh... we'll wait a little sec on that you're from steinberg but you come down to texas you're enjoying it thanks richard reimer i am not revealing anything there mr kruger yeah i do want to go on rob i always do uh... right now our rates are really good i know in other places people keep talking about the rates going down down down and fuel prices going up up up everything i've seen around here yeah fuel prices are going up they're going through the roof absolutely but so are the rates rates are through the roof right now there's not enough drivers for anything people are desperate to get their freight moved and rates have increased along with fuel prices here so the the drivers with us are making more this year than they were before the pandemic they're making like twenty thirty percent more i've talked to several of them i've gone into our uh... uh... payroll department asked them if the rumors are true i've talked to our dispatch i've talked to our sales i've talked to everybody in the company including the boss himself and uh... yeah it's our rates are doing great uh... we've kept up with fuel prices so yeah the fuel prices keep going up but uh... that cost gets forwarded down the line to the consumer so you'll see that at the end of the line when you buy the finished product when you buy uh... stuff off the shelves whether it be a wal-mart or uh... uh... anything parts for your car parts everything everything's getting more expensive yeah but uh... maybe we knew this was coming it's not like it's a big surprise when you spend trillions of dollars you just printed out of nothing we're like i think prices are going to go up everybody's like no no no everything's going to be fine no it's not it might be fine but things are just the numbers are going to adjust really quickly but we're doing good we're doing fine uh... things are going great with us guys gotta hold on a little tighter now well i think brit might be home now but yeah for owner ops with us right now uh... that's why we're looking for owner ops so bad right now right because we don't have enough drivers to haul all our freight and our freight needs to be moved and they want to move it and they're willing to pay to move it i hear a lot online uh... coming from i think a lot of people just like to complain though like i don't want to downplay what they're saying because the rates may be low where they're at maybe they don't have good contracts like we do maybe they don't have clientele i don't know maybe their rates are low even before the pandemic when everything was good when everything was going great uh... we're always always complaining complaining complaining why is everything digging low rates low rates so you can't make money you can't make money i'm sitting here like yeah you can yes you can what are you talking about maybe they're just in the wrong region i don't know our region is really good for trucking we're right in the center of the continent so uh... any freight moving from any point in the continent to anywhere else we're sort of right in the middle of almost every freight lane for canada maybe that helps i don't know i like to talk that's right that's why i have a blog channel that i can talk and yap all i want but no uh... there's always been the people out there always been those negative people out there saying oh there's no money all the rates are low all the fuel is going up all this all that you can't make money we're not going to make money without attitude yeah uh... on my own truck one day is going to uh... what's are you talking about what's are you talking about no i'm talking about rates right now for all operators uh... they're making good money it's a good time to be a trucker here everybody wants freight not enough drivers after the pandemic everybody's like a ramping up uh... production and uh... there's always a shortage of drivers and then with everything going on with the border yet and that's shorten the driver supply even more so people can cross are just doing good to good time are you guys doing see your comments where your comments go i don't want to drive long haul uh... no because i was starting a family right that's priority number one we've got that uh... motion started we're building a house soon uh... so i want to be i'd be close to home i wouldn't be like on weeks at a time like i was when i was uh... younger it's not a tough time with the cost of fuel now the rates cover the fuel the fuel price goes up the rates go up they're actually making more this year than they were last year now they're they're netting more our drivers they're netting more this year than they were last year even with uh... the price of fuel we've got an excellent sales team excellent sales team and uh... excellent uh... so we've got a good thing going on gotta look for the cheap fuel well good luck finding that all fuel is expensive now house diesel enjoying the land ownership i think it's going quite well he's been quite relaxed and chill about it uh... he's requested a top hat uh... a pipe and uh... some brandy that he owns a square foot of land in scotland that's what the deed says i got sent it i got sent it got it sent to me here he comes himself hey hey boss man come here boss man hey guys you're a landowner look at them don't look at me look at them look look at the camera oh well your eyes roll you gotta do your hair in your eyes before you come on cameraman he's old he doesn't care diesel how's it feel being a lord or a lord of a scottish estate it's quite thrilling actually quite nice dream comes true it's very nice when you're building a state you have my own dog house very nice anything else nice at all he's gonna go and get all the ladies alright diesel you're not too old for that are you bring them down to your penthouse show them your big screen tv i don't know if you guys saw my video or not on that there's a nature preserve in scotland and the way they preserve it is they sell off all the land one square foot at a time so it's impossible to develop anything there right britney's in the comments there hey diesel yeah she says diesel be eleven years old in august yeah she's answering your questions there how did we all that's a story for itself diesel's always been with me wieners always been with brit uh frank was uh a foster that uh just became permanent and uh chevy was our wedding dog uh chevy when we got married we took our presentation money or is that what's called presentation we do money from our wedding and we went and bought a dog i got chevy and he has the same birthday as brit so he's gonna yeah we call him chevy because he's the the color of the chevy emblem and we're chevy fans we're simple you guys like my new shirt brit's watching right now brit got me this shirt yesterday or day before i'm wearing it very nice it's got a pocket just in case wait i saw a comment up there i wanted uh a super chat how old is diesel the black dog okay brit answered your question uh sorry i missed that there uh z 12 yeah eleven years old in august well gray and morgan maybe where you're at not where we're at we're doing good we're doing good we're keeping up with uh the current market current fuel rates uh current fuel prices current uh cost of operating business we're keeping up with that like i said we have an excellent sales team we have an excellent uh company that we're running under and they're taking good care of us well it's a good time to be a truck driver we're more essential than ever right now with everything so far behind like have you uh the one thing i will say that is frustrating for our owner operators is that parts are really far behind right now uh you know uh production in everything is far behind because everybody's shut down a couple of years ago now they're all still trying to catch up it'll take a little while for everything to uh get caught up then things going on in other parts of the world right now are slowing down that process of catching up but as things are catching up uh we need drivers more and more and more to move this freight to get everything caught up and there's not enough drivers there's never been enough drivers that's not a new thing there's always been a shortage of drivers always is longer than i've been alive this isn't a new thing or anything to do with the pandemic this has just always been but now the economy is just surging up here at least where we are i don't know i hear complaints from other parts of the continent south of us i don't know up here the economy is roaring back to life we need drivers we need them now and people are willing to pay to move their freight and pay pretty good because everything needs to move we are more essential than ever right now you need your parts for your truck you need your food for your fridge you need your materials to build your house you need your tires for your car you need stuff everybody always needs stuff and they need it right now and there's just not enough drivers to get it out there so everybody's trying to tell people you need we need drivers really badly because people are paying for us to move their stuff and they're paying really well at least where we're at i mean that's why i say i take it with a grain of salt when people complain about stuff because they've always complained that's one reason i started my channel was because there's so much negativity in our industry so much negativity always complaining complaining and i get why guys get depressed out there i've been out there nine years i was out there for weeks at a time i know what it's like being out there for weeks at a time it it gets to your soul depressing where there is no positivity to find anywhere you see the negative in everything because you're just so sick of being gone for weeks and weeks and weeks at a time and the balance between home life and work life is not there so if you don't balance that properly yeah it's it's tough to stay positive and i get why people get very negative then and then they start complaining like oh maybe their truck broke down they've got an expensive i've had this too you you have a very expensive repair and suddenly oh the industry is terrible can't make any money well you're going through a rough stage right now absolutely there are risks no one becomes a truck driver to get rich we're not going to become elon musk by driving trucks uh we do because we love it and it's it's good money compared to what a lot of people are struggling right now a lot of people are struggling to pay their bills housing prices in canada are through the roof that's one thing that nothing is keeping up with housing prices the average home for a family in canada right now across our country is eight hundred thousand dollars it's over eight hundred thousand dollars for just an average house i gotta put you guys down i'm shaking too much so that's something that that has been skyrocketing and inflating past everything else our rates are keeping up with us we're fortunate enough to have a small house here in manitoba that's affordable but if i was in ontario this house would be worth six seven hundred thousand dollars and it's probably more than that it's a tiny little house here in manitoba we're a little bit more fortunate a little more undesirable but uh housing prices have gone through the roof and that's uh bad policy on behalf of our government and stuff that they're they're you have a lot of people and supply and demand and they're not keeping up with demand really we have so many people looking for homes no one's building homes build some homes flood the market with homes but now they're in a pickle because now people are paying a million dollars for a two bedroom bungalow a million dollars i'll say you just pay a million dollars for a two bedroom bungalow and this year the government's like okay we're going to take care of this housing price and they go out and build like uh five hundred million homes that's way over exaggerate let's say they go out and they build five million homes and that floods the market with new homes and all of a sudden all the prices of homes go down now you just paid a million dollars for a two bedroom bungalow and in two years it's only worth three hundred thousand so you owe the bank a million dollars for a house that's only worth three hundred thousand dollars now you're in a big problem so that's the that's a whole different issue i'm not i'm not in the housing market let's stick to things that i that i and i'm actually a part of like in trucking because truck is doing good right now everybody needs truckers uh on a massive interest rate spikes have slowed house sales and i'm not surprised we knew that interest rates would go up when you flood the market with money that you printed you print trillions of dollars and you just flood the market with free money that nobody earned they didn't produce anything for it it's just money that just flooded the market suddenly all of those bank notes are worth less the only way to get those bank notes up is you got to get them out of circulation how do you get them out of circulation you raise the interest rates you raised interest rates so that the money comes back into the bank but that's really hard for the people who who have loans and stuff right no we knew this is all gonna happen nobody believed us you're a truck driver you don't know anything about this called this you're two years ago i told you this is where we'd be well no don't listen to me i'm just a truck driver i'm just rambling one of things what is dingy here i keep bumping something and it keeps dingy what's going on but it's true uh i don't really have any ground to stand on when it comes to houses i just sort of understand how money works a little bit i'm not a housing expert i'm not an economy expert i'm i'm a transport expert i'll tell you how to tie down a load of steel and get it across the continent on time without damage that's what i'm good at so uh the rest of this is just me predicting and spewing things hey guys hey dodge how much uh the average driver makes in your company uh so for a company driver uh you could predict let's say you're making a driving at least 10 000 miles per month i would expect you to be making over 60 000 a year uh close to 60 000 depending on how much you drive like you you want to keep your miles over 10 000 miles a month maybe more on 12 000 miles a month i would say that you should be making over 60 000 i've always been able to pull in over 60 uh as an owner operator you'll be able to uh pull in uh you depends what you're doing if you're on flatbed you should be able to pull in like 25 30 000 a month with the cost of fuel then depending on your fuel habits if you drive if you drive crazy or a fuel economy is not your biggest concern because when i buy a truck i want it to be a w9 so i'm you don't buy a w9 to get the best fuel economy but you still want to be decent you don't want to uh throw thing throw money into the wind too much but sometimes you can pay an pay sometimes you want to pay a little bit of extra money per mile to have a nice shiny classic truck i understand that totally i do that but uh 10 000 a month in fuel you can expect to spend and if you're pulling in 30 you have an extra 20 after that to pay for registration for insurance for plates for whatever else you need uh where we're at the owner operators all of those things are all covered by the company they cover uh they take care of your plates your registration uh i mean you still have to pay for through through the process right but they'll take care of it make sure that it's all up to date make sure that your truck is registered insured uh that your ifta stickers are up to date that uh your permits are up to date if you're an owner operator you're gonna have to pay for your own tolls though uh depending you have two different pay packages last i checked with owner operators you can get paid by the mile which is something that you have to negotiate with them or you get paid percentage i always go with the percentage myself because i think you'll make more with percentage especially with the contracts we got going on right now but that's just me uh i have an uncle right now or i shouldn't say no from what i've heard drivers looking at rates around manitoba where we're at right now Keystone is ahead of the pack in pay they they pay the highest and uh they have the most how do i say that we isn't really good things going on right now i have a friend that's been looking around at companies around manitoba and uh he said hands down Keystone pays the highest any company in manitoba for what we do for what we do but then and you got to remember we haul specialized freight we don't just haul drive and box freight whatever you can throw in there and safe for we don't haul just safe freight we haul specialized freight like uh classic cars for for instance uh atv side-by-sides uh double-decker trailers that are custom built trailers for what we do um hauled glass you remember years ago i don't know if we still do that i haven't seen it come through the yard in a little while but uh we used to haul glass uh that was those were always good pain loads i like those uh so it's not like we just haul the basic stuff that you just throw on the deck tie down and go you have to know what you're doing and that's why we require experience to work here one match like do you think youtube could become your bread and butter career that'd be a dream come true wouldn't it that'd be awesome if the goal of my youtube channel i'll be honest with you guys like i make money off my youtube decent money decent yeah uh if it wasn't tied to trucking maybe i maybe i could live off it for a while it's very close that i could maybe live off of it uh but the thing is it's tied to trucking and i'm tied to trucking so i wouldn't be happy unless if i was trucking and the channel wouldn't be happy unless if i'm trucking remember i've tried that before i've tried coming off the road for a month no one was happy about that i wasn't happy about that you weren't happy about that and uh the channel starts going down because that's what my life is based around uh my goal though with my youtube channel since the beginning has always been i want to get to the point where i can drive truck because i want to not because i have to i would love to make youtube a my primary income source that'd be that'd be awesome not there i'm not at that point but uh you know maybe if we doubled doubled views but in order to do that i think that uh i need to change up my content a little bit i need to go a little bit further in my trips than what i'm doing right now uh right now i'm local and around winnipeg because uh we're trying to start a family and family's always going to come first always that's uh something that was pounded into me as a kid and uh not just that it's what's most important to me so britt our dogs our our children not in that order britt our children our dogs our family in general they will always come first but in order for me to grow my channel i'm thinking i'm probably gonna have to go a little further uh show a little bit more of the continent especially if i'm trying to attract drivers to do what i do i'm gonna have to show you the kind of things that we'd be doing uh overnight's maybe as an owner operator i could just give you an inside look then of what life as an owner operator would be again i've done that already a couple times and it's not that i failed at that time it wasn't right the truck wasn't right the timing wasn't right and that's why i got out of it it's not that anything went wrong it's uh we were making good money we also had a lot of expenses come up all at once but that's that's not the the the main reason why we stopped i stopped because i needed to be home and uh we were uh you know we're trying to start a family and we're having a little bit of delays in conceiving and having having a child so i didn't know what was going on we were talking with the doctors at the time trying to get this whole IVF thing uh on the road and i needed to be close also the pandemic happened and britt uh my wife her her she has a compromised immune or compromised lung system we didn't know what this was all about they were uh scaring the living daylights out of everybody when this thing first rolled out they were telling us we were all gonna die and this was gonna be the end of the world and you know anybody with compromised lungs is gonna get it and they're gonna end up on a ventilator and and uh i'm not downplaying at all i mean my mom got very sick too and she ended up in a coma in the hospital and uh she made it through because she's very healthy and very strong thank god uh i still haven't gotten it but uh that's that's a side note anyways that's part of the reason why i came off the road because this pandemic was scaring the the daylights out of us and i didn't want to be down in georgia and have my wife suddenly get very very sick way up here and maybe three days away with everything going on we were freaking out so we i decided i needed to be home every day and that's when i started looking for uh for what i'm doing now but uh now that uh for the most part it seems this pandemic is behind us at least here anyways in manitoba things have opened up for the most part life is back to normal uh i know in other parts of the world the life was normal all the time but here in manitoba uh we're getting there now uh things are calm down about that the news has stopped going on 24-7 about it it's kind of nice i hate to see the news the the news coming out of ukraine right now i hate to see the devastation and stuff especially since we have so many ukranians living here around us uh it hits us it's close to home in this region a lot what's going on there i hate to see that but at the same time it's it's nice that the news is talking about something else other than covid uh that that's that's nice so it's really brought people like out of the pandemic i think you know it's a terrible situation it's just there's always something bad going on right uh i'm getting to your comments guys i'm getting i see them there uh anyways we i came off the road because of the pandemic mostly and we didn't know what to expect we didn't know what was going on and now that we do uh yeah uh i don't want to be back on the road for weeks at a time uh not right now not while we have young children possibly on the way and especially as they're growing up the first four to five years of their life are very influential they're very transformative they're very important so for the first like five to ten years of their life i don't want to be far away i i want to be a big part of their life and i i want them to have memories of their dad being home regularly regularly i may not be home every night maybe i'll go out do some regional stuff uh go out for a night or two at a time but that's going to be very important to me at the same time as they're growing up i want them to have that same experience of going with dad on the big truck that i had i had that experience when i was a kid i would always go with dad on the big semi uh in the summer times uh great time i want to be able to give my kids that experience too so i've got to find something uh a happy medium to balance the home life and trucking i think i found something but we're gonna wait a little while to see if uh things go through before i talk talk more about it but i do have plans have i ever went to see sergeant no i never saw him again i never saw him again since then the dogs are here big answer is a channel with over a hundred k subs seems grown maybe do reaction vids from the internet i can do that yeah we have yeah we have about a hundred and fourteen thousand uh five hundred people that follow and we're not growing very quickly and i'm okay with that i don't need to grow i don't need to become super big on youtube i'd rather slowly gain a close following that that actually enjoys watching my content and about 10 percent of viewers or 10 percent of subscribers watch every day and that's i'm happy with that with the audience we have i'm not here to make uh big big moves on the internet i'd like to but if not then pep mitts thank you bud thanks is wishing both of you a great future as you begin your family thank you thank you uh i would love to see the channel grow faster obviously that's the whole point of youtube i'm here to uh grow a channel and it is a business it's a it's a registered business so i do make money with it uh those google ads that you see in my videos that are so annoying uh thank you for putting up with those i appreciate i don't care if you hit the skip ad button i don't know how those all work google takes care of all of those i don't even control which ones get sent to you but thank you for being patient with them uh and it does help out because that that's really what has gotten us through the financial side of this ivf process if you want to know where my profits from youtube have gone that's where it's gone it's gone into building our family uh and uh i'm very appreciative to everyone who puts up with those ads uh they are free to watch so it's not like you got to pay to watch them but uh they can get annoying and i just i appreciate your patience with they're helping us out with with a lot of things here you should do a reaction video to some of your old videos henry says i should do reaction some i have done a few of those before when we were in saskatoon for uh our little wiener dog surgery we're doing reaction videos then uh i should probably do some more though that's a good idea i need to shave look at my beard i'm looking pretty scruffy yikes oh well you get the family life but i you do miss the otr with diesel big hand says and i miss it too man i'll be honest the brit knows it too she's watching right now and i don't know if she's still watching she's at the at the shop right now she's getting her uh summer tires put back on her car uh but i miss it too i i miss the highway that's that's career wise that's where my heart is i i love the open road i love traveling with diesel and i i try not to tell you guys what i have planned in the future until the plans are actually set in stone because i don't want to say i'm going to do something and then have it not work out and then have to explain to everybody why it didn't work out but i am right now trying to position myself where i can be regional where i can be on the road again in my own truck with diesel and still be home you know once during the weekend every weekend that's what i'm working towards right now i was hoping to have an answer on that to reveal to the the channel this weekend but uh things are dragging out they're taking a little longer than i and i thought they would uh so we'll have to wait till monday i guess to find out if it went through and if it doesn't go through i don't want to have to be like well we tried it didn't work out but yeah i uh have i ever been to central usa i've been to every continental us state the only states i haven't been to is alaska and hawaii i've been to every province and territory of canada except for nunavut i haven't been to the southwest of the u.s in a while i haven't been through new mexico but that was when i was a kid we do have freight going down there but no to mow the land yet nate says not yet i haven't thinking about it though it's gonna come up soon it's kind of swampy right now everything's kind of flooded so i'm trying to hold this camera steady it's not really working maybe i should go set you guys down on her since i'm gonna be yapping i was just gonna hang out till brit got home but she's she's been there for two hours they must be they must be doing something in the car where can i put this gonna put this up here i'm just gonna put you guys on the shelf wow there we go yeah no that's too high isn't it yeah that's all right yeah that's all right there we go and i don't have to hold you cool now where's the comments where's the oh they're there waddy says do you realize bro any children brit and yourself have are going to have 114 thousand aunts and uncles yeah yeah oh we also gotta figure out what we're going to do with our children and my youtube channel are we going to show them are we going to include them uh i want to of course i want to want to share that part uh as they grow older though you gotta gotta think like they they also have to make their own decision as well as they grow older when they're young kids obviously they can't make decisions for themselves that's what parents are for parents make the decisions for them as they get older maybe they don't want to be on youtube maybe they don't want to be well known you know i look at families like the shea tarts i don't know if you guys know them or not they used to be on youtube uh but uh they're a big family and you know as the family grows older those kids grow up and they're very well known they're very well known around do they even want to be famous or do they just want to be like a normal kid that can just go to college and not have to worry about you know everybody like running after them i don't know i don't know how big my channel's gonna get right now i don't think i'm very i don't think of myself as a famous person at all uh but maybe one day it'll get to that point i'm not doing this for for the fame but sometimes that comes along with it i gotta think when i have kids are they gonna want to be a part of that or not so britain i've got to britain i've got to talk more about that yet hello from singapore hello what year is the peterbilt the peterbilt i'm driving as a 2007 uh in the description of my videos uh i have that listed there and all uh why are my comments not like staying up on here all messages are a bit ah there we go how does diesel deal with the fame from his ah i think he handles it really well it probably confuses him a lot he just thinks that he has uh i don't know he loves everybody he's just happy that people love him back who is my first subscriber i don't remember i don't remember it says diesel have an only pause account that's funny if i do i don't know about it diesel in florida california uh susan wants to know what the next step with ivf is uh i'd like to discuss that with brit here because she knows a little bit more than i do but she has to go in for another procedure yet uh which might be a little bit painful from what i've heard and what we've heard uh but there's one more procedure and a couple of more prescriptions and stuff and we're hoping that the first transfer will be in june next month my chat keeps disappearing why does it do that the best youtuber i don't know who you're talking about that couldn't be me jacob diesel misses counting cows i do believe he does diesel you missed the cows his eyes just popped open uh besides tim hortons what's another big canadian fast food chain that's all over canada well tim hortons is uh owned by a brazilian company right now i think or an american company i don't know but uh other than tim hortons what would be a big canadian food chain everything that's here is in the us too word anything you find in the us you find here for the most part wadi you were one of my first subscribers yeah way back in the day i was 11 years ago man yeah i've made some good friends off of youtube here what youtubers do i watch honestly i don't watch a lot of youtube i know it's weird right i don't watch a lot of youtube um i don't know i i i'm drawing a blank right now well there's obviously my friends you obviously want obviously like troy and angie on beyond 10 31 uh i watch them uh i watch honestly i've i don't have a lot of time to watch as as a lot of people do in springtime you see views go down always or or at least stop growing as fast uh because most people are outside as soon as the weather warms up less people are on youtube and on their phones are outside doing outdoorsy stuff in wintertime that's when the views go up because then people are bored they're inside they're cold that's when views go up and that's when i watch more of my youtube too though i wish people would uh continue to watch through the summer too because i really appreciate that but you know you do you if my old freight line is still on the road nope i sold that to a scrapyard it is scrapped out for parts by now you've been watching this is 2014 that's awesome jacob is lord diesel wadi says yes absolutely you've been watching since the w900 he drove keystone yeah that was way back in the day that was one of my first trucks that i drove it's still at keystone uh my buddy drives the truck now he owns it someone else bought it you started watching right before the wedding and never stopped i'm glad to have you here hello josh hello duke what kind of engine does the peterbilt 379 have uh all that information is in the description of my videos uh it's an isx i think it's a four uh the 450 horsepower or the 500 it's coming zia sex anyways in the peterbilt 2013 but best of luck in your journey thank you shop is coming along nicely thank you yeah it's gonna take a little while to build it up but it's coming it's coming got some shelving in there now that's nice carry's been watching since i've only had 3 000 followers it's your bedtime oh you're in australia right i got that right i think you're in australia definitely not here because it's like 10 a.m here it's bedtime unless you work night shift i got the bike out already john andrew's asked what i'm getting the motorcycle out uh it's already out i got it polished up and cleaned i've taken it for a couple of rides already just going through your comments here when will the jets win the cup at the exact right time in the exact right place against the exact right team that's when we're saving it we're saving it for the perfect time i can tell you this though we'll win the cup before the leafs win the cup i'll tell you tell you that i'm before they ever win it again yes you're in australia oh it's oh wow it's quarter to one in australia right now oh well hey thanks for giving us our sun back i appreciate that it's nice to have the sun in the sky again uh if you don't mind don't hold on to it so long next year that'd be great uh we missed it uh which is better freight liner or Volvo freight liner i am not a fan of Volvo not a fan i'm very passionate about not being a fan of Volvo remember i leased that Volvo once never again okay that is one company that if they ever ask me to do ads for them i'm not the guy they want to do ads for them okay i will do the opposite don't buy one okay they come standard with an engine light people want to know where i stand on volvos passionately against them i don't like them they are problems you buy a Volvo like it they should just change the the logo of Volvo on the front of the grill just change it to an engine light that would make more sense that would make more sense i don't like them problems okay josh them fighting words don't be talking about my leafs everybody likes to bug toronto everybody likes to bug toronto he has a 2022 peterbilt he's a company driver okay so you've got one of them it's hard to get a whole of a brand new truck nowadays here in manitoba the whole new line of 2022s or whatever they got right now they're all sold out and they're not even taking orders for next year yet people are buying trucks like crazy and they're not making them fast enough what's your opinion on the cab size of the scania i want to be careful here because i'm not a european so my opinion doesn't really matter on this but i'm not a fan of the european trucks i sat in it at truck world i got in there and honestly it felt like i was sitting in a minivan it's uh i'm sure they're great trucks for what you use and i know you can't have our big classic hood trucks in europe in some places there uh so they're the best you can get i understand that you don't have a choice you have to have these cabover trucks i'm just i'm not a fan of the the looks of them i think they look funny without a hood they don't look right when you're driving them it feels like you're driving a minivan or when you're sitting in it i've never driven one uh but they're probably very luxurious for what you guys use them for out there and i am just peterbilt kenworth to the end okay and i don't mind uh the other trucks here either i have nothing bad to say about international i've never driven one never had any problems with it uh actually i've driven lots of internationals what am i talking about never owned one nothing bad to say about international my dad's a big freight liner guy you you talk freight liner and you you'll have a conversation all day and night with my dad he loves freight liner he's a big freight liner guy he's always had freight liner when i was a kid and i went on the road with him he had a 97 freight liner fld and he also had a 99 freight liner classic and now he's got a 2003 freight liner classic he's that uh that he still owns he's a big freight liner guy he loves freight liner he's also owned western star western stars they're a very rough ride they ride like a tank like if you have western star it's very rough all the time from my experience i'm not a big fan of the ride quality of western star i think they have a lot of improvements to go there as a truck i like their clutch better than the like their automatic clutch if you got to drive an automatic i like their clutch better than the peterbilt clutch because the peterbilt clutch when you put it in reverse and you try to just gently bump a dock it's all or nothing it just lurches you back all the time their automatic transmissions at least on the transmissions we have in our trucks are they need improvement on peterbilt but uh that's good the volvos drive really nice they're nice trucks inside it's like a condos very comfortable smooth quiet ride beautiful trucks right beautiful until the engine light comes on five minutes after you leave the yard but other than that they're great trucks great trucks i mean i don't want you to think i hate the volvos i just wish that they wouldn't have so many electronic issues all the time from my experience just going through your comments sorry if i've missed a few here they keep disappearing on me just watch my last video jay says uh what is the worst experience backing a trailer in that you've ever had anyone unload you off the street because you couldn't get in the door yeah i've been unloaded off the street before uh it's hard to say what the worst would be in winnipeg that's definitely the worst dock that i had i've had to get into that's uh terrible you need a straight truck and we have a straight truck that we usually send there but sometimes they need a full trailer load picked up and the straight truck just isn't big enough so they have to send a truck in there that's why i was there even though i didn't have a full load i picked up what like nine skids i don't know why i was there then but there i was maybe the straight truck was busy i don't know but uh i went and picked it up and that's probably the worst one to get into and i it actually went really smoothly because that could have gone really bad that could have been very frustrating because it doesn't matter what you do you could have someone flagging people down on the road telling people to stop when you're backing up across the road people aren't going to stop they're just gonna they're in such a hurry it's that city mindset like everybody out of my way only all that matters is what i'm doing right now you just got blinders on they don't pay attention to anything around them and they're just go go go go go and they see a truck backing up and they just they'll just quickly try to get around because they don't want to have to wait 30 seconds for a truck 30 seconds they're gonna be late for their starbucks frappe dappuccino appointment it's that city mindset where everybody's just go go go go it drives me nuts uh so you gotta be careful on the city because people don't care they don't care they'll make a dangerous pass just to save two seconds on their commute and they'll cut in front of the drive aggressive so when you're backing up you you have to expect everybody to do the craziest thing you could think of because if you think that that if you think like oh they I mean if they were super crazy like not paying attention they could do this just assume they're going to do that and uh drive defensively portugal is watching freight liner is a good built truck i'm going through your comments here now uh clean sweet papa clean sweet papa just reading your username uh good built truck are you used to working factory building those suckers right here in North Carolina yeah freight liners are really good trucks i have nothing bad to say about them my dad's trucks the the 97 fld that he had had a detroit engine in it and that thing that thing go and go and go and go and now my dad's 2003 freight liner classic has a cat c15 in it and those engines just go and go and go he's had so few well he's had problems with it every truck has problems but yeah it's been a really good truck for him it's a 2003 and uh you know you just can't uh you take care of them and they just keep going susan have i ever had an accident all answer that was saying this year i was awarded with 1 million safe miles at keystone i had to go to chicago a couple of the trucks are reading your comments here hello uh jeggy from india hello i see your comments there wow guys where's brit she's still there and this shop has taken a long time to switch over a set of tires i know they had to switch some lug nuts and uh it changed some of the valve stems on the tires i don't know what's going on there is he still trucking my dad is still trucking yep i am pretty sure that uh he's only gonna retire when the doctor tells him he has to pretty sure that's i'm sure he's gonna keep truck until that day here's to another 1 million accident free miles bro thank you hope i can get there call brit make sure she's okay i'm sure she's fine i'm sure she's fine she can handle herself she just made a post on instagram like six minutes ago so she's just fine she won't be watching this the whole time that'd be boring why would she watch me she's got to come home and deal with me all day why would she watch me on youtube when she's getting this is her time away from me i know she tuned in at the beginning of this live for a little bit but i doubt she's still in here if she is maybe she is i mean she's super awesome she's the best wife ever the bestest of the best hi from the uk the united kingdom hello hello from grassland alberta that's awesome how many other drivers with geese don't have a million clean miles there's quite a few we have a lower turnover rate with us because i think that the company really treats their drivers really well i mean there's obviously going to be a few disgruntled people here and there we can't get along with everybody i mean some people just don't drive but we've collected a really good group of drivers both men and women to to come and drive with us and there's been a lot that have been there uh for as long as me or longer there's a guy I work with he's doing sitting work now too he's on band division he's been there over 20 years he's been there longer than the CEO not longer than the boss he's uh quite a few drivers like our tire guy too he's been there what did he say 20 years 20 25 years more than that and then we have new drivers like uh kate and that you met in last week's videos who just started he's 20 years old driving truck up here as soon as he turns 21 and he'll be crossing the border into the US too and uh there's guys at keystone who have been working there longer than he's been alive and now he's here trucking with us he's a great guy I like him I gotta have him over for barbecue this summer uh he's gonna go places he I like to see young guys like that because I remember when I was 20 I did not have that same mindset if I had the mindset that he had right now and going good hard worker good kid man I'd be a lot further I probably have my house built I probably have a second house built who knows probably own a fleet of 10 trucks or something uh did I get your letter in the mail yet Christopher it must still be on the way or maybe it's there I'll have to go check I don't think I've gotten one from you yet but uh I'll keep checking the day I hate your two years for your license the day I will apply to Keystone that's awesome Matt uh if you want to it doesn't hurt to apply earlier too I mean two years is the the standard that we asked for for experience and and that's because we haul all of that specialized freight right where we want to make sure that the guys who are hauling like uh this very valuable specialized stuff know the basics of what they're doing right they but we do hire less than two years experience too it's not a rule set in stone I mean look at Caden we hired him with uh I think he had a he's been driving truck for a year now or has it been two years off to ask him again but uh he wanted experience in flat bedding and we trained him up we took him on to our city crew and we had a guy to run with him for about six weeks or was it three months might have been three months trained him up in uh how to tie downloads how to chain downloads brought him up and uh mentored him into the position he's in now now he's out on his own doing city work he's doing some regional work now he's got a sleeper on his truck so he's doing some overnights and we're slowly you know gonna broaden his horizons and he can haul anything I can haul now so he's done really good he's done really good so it is on a case-to-case basis don't think that just because uh oh we need we say two years experience on there that that is the standard but it's a case-by-case business we're we're not gonna throw your resume out because you throw because you have a gear experience or something just as long as you got something this doesn't hurt to apply a little earlier and and if the answer is maybe not right now the answer isn't no it's maybe maybe just not right now you can come back later you must be new here jagie uh do i meet any indian drivers you mean like east indian drivers well here in canada yes there are lots of east indian drivers absolutely uh lots if you don't see them your your eyes are closed yes uh you must be new here you can go through my channel i have 11 years of videos in my playlist go on to my regular channel here hit that subscribe button so you don't miss my videos and go and watch my daily blogs you can go from like one all the way to what are we at now 2,500 and some so i've got like my whole last 10 years on video that you can go and check out if you want to you're gonna be 31 this year uh it's taking 10 years it will at least go to school that's awesome that's awesome are the grandparents hoping for a grandson are you the only boy in your family uh nope uh i have two nephews now i have actually i have two nephews on both sides i have two nephews on britside two nephews on my side but uh they are hoping for another grandkid maybe a granddaughter if i had a daughter it would be the first girl born into the family since my generation i don't really care if it's a boy or a girl it doesn't matter to me but if it's gonna be she's gonna be a girl then uh oh she's gonna grow up around trucks that's for sure shows and stuff why did my comments not i want to see my comments not letting me scroll up up there well do i remember when i hit a moose yep the vlog was called stepped on a snake and hit a moose and i gotta let you guys go now because uh the boss is home he just thinks i'm barking with him hey hey this is what happens every time this guy hey sit sit down hey diesel oh just the little guys can stay in there you always step on the little guys and you get too excited hey hey quiet hey chevy sit sit your big butt down i know i know i'm excited too she's gonna be through that door no one can get close to our house without these guys noticing i'm gonna turn around you stay quiet diesel can you sit can you sit sit there you go let's wait together just wait diesel you gotta sit oh they're not gonna sit they're way too excited she's in the door now is she there is she on the other side oh i'm live streaming right now just so you know a heads up there she is see she's real did you miss me hey they missed you carefully careful careful this is what happens don't trample the little what did they all do to the car did we get a new car it took like three hours are we broke now no okay there's only 360 okay you guys this is a family channel they want me to kiss you okay okay you missed you kiss my it's like a bush yes there we go that's all you get that's all you get oh he gets that's all i get i'm gonna get more i'm gonna get more i got your cheap plates man i killed time by walking around a Walmart okay you got super glue on my chicken one so you better not do any dirty jobs see the bosses home that's what happens they'll just follow her around they were all sleeping that's all they do when you're gone they just sleep diesel where'd you go oh he's bringing you a present oh diesel what you got you can look at it can't have it just want you to know it's here did he put it away i put it on his bed when we go to the land we do need to check out the land again soon it's still pretty soggy there right now so there's not much we can do there we have friends that live in the area that check on it for us check on it all the time for us and it was uh it wasn't underwater but it was it was wet and muddy soggy very wet spring let's see do i have a job leave i ask do you have a job do i have a job no i have a lifestyle you know how's the air purifier is doing they are uh wonderful yes we have super air in here right now pretty sure in the couple of weeks i'm gonna be able to fly oh people are asking uh am i looking for a job no uh you must be new to the channel that's cool uh hit the subscribe button and go to my channel page go to my playlists and you can watch my vlogs from one to i think we have like 3 000 videos on the internet right now you can go check it out yeah there's been a couple of new people tuning in that's good we want to welcome the new people just uh point them towards the the playlists and then they can and if you want to know more about me in every video my regular videos go into the description there's a whole like story of where we're at right now in there uh under every video so that everybody who clicks on any video can just go down there and figure out what i'm all about and find out all my other social media there everybody says hi you just subscribed welcome that's awesome that's okay everybody's new at one point hey everybody you were all the new guy at one point i was new six years ago six you didn't know me six years ago i guess she was the new the new one six years ago new subscriber i've known you for six years and two months yeah sometimes it's funny when people come on and uh you don't realize you know there's uh i've been doing this uh every day for like 10 years or 11 years so lots to catch up on lots to catch up on and you're all welcome here watching from Saudi Arabia land of oil and very nice cars no that's Dubai oh i shouldn't mix those two up i don't think i should mix those two up uh-oh i'm from a long ways away i apologize well sari's got nice cars too i've never been there i've never been there we haven't been anywhere exotic don't judge us we're not cultured florida is exotic they've got alligators we've got disney world disney world see if it fits mongolia wow oh shoot oh like a drill sergeant oh no about the wrong size it fits what are you talking about our uh our nephew one of our nephews her friends little boys having a birthday party how dare you call her just a friend best friend slash cousin ashley's little guy is turning two today yes our little nephew turning two another boy there's no girls in our family not all boys chasa that's right there's my cousin's kid she's the only one chasa so there's one girl out of all the kids being born bring out the bike soon the bike's already been out it's it's out anyways i'm gonna end this live stream now guys it's been an hour so thanks for hanging out uh we'll talk to you again soon


According to UNICEF Outer School Children in Nigeria hits 20 million and President Bahari says corruption is undermining government's investments in education. Tonight, the Beginner Town Hall series counting down to the 2023 elections as 2022 winds down. This is Post-Politics and I am Mary Anna Cohn. The President's Major General Mohamed Bahari has said corruption undermined his administration's achievements in the education sector. This came about eight months after members of the Academic Staff Union of Universities asked who on February 14 started their ongoing strike. In spite of efforts by government, many more Nigerian children are dropping out of school daily. Now in three years, major unions within the education sector had caused down tools putting students, parents and the entire country in a state of frustration. Data obtained from the website of the Central Bank of Nigeria revealed that Nigeria's educational sector suffered massive capital flight during the regime of President Mohamed Bahari. Specifically using the CBN's balance of payment statistics, Nigerians have spent a hefty sum of $3.5 billion on foreign education in the past seven years. Joining us to discuss this is Professor Richard Aduche Wokochahi, a professor of law at the River State University. Ikechi Wogo is also joining us, he's an educator and a national transformation agent. Also joining us is Dr Akin Meluhi, Principal Consultant at Erudio Hub. Thank you gentlemen for joining us and Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, good to be here. Thank you gentlemen for joining us. Merry Christmas. Okay, great. I'm going to start with, Akin, you obviously are in Lagos, so we'll start with Lagos education. Looking at the statistics that we have, I mean $3.5 billion is a lot of money, especially for a country that's still looking for forex to deal with a lot of things and of course facing a downturn. A few months ago, Oendo State Government decried the fact that a lot of children are being taken from public education and now taken to private schools and they wanted to make a law of sorts that would deter teachers who had children in private schools from doing that because they feel that it's killing public education. But the question is, what about the elites? That's interesting. Okay, well, I like the statistics that you put forward, you know, and I'll first take you through the back end to understand why these things happen. So the elites, okay, well, the elites always have a way around things. But if you look at it, education in Nigeria is quite funny. It's in a funnel where you will find out that, so you have over 10 million out of school children, then Lagos is accounting for about 19% of that, you know, and what is causing that is this, Lagos, they want to do more. They want to provide good education for them, but they don't have the land space. Now so, you had evolution of about 20,000 public private schools helping them out to see that you want to do this because the law actually says that you should be responsible for elementary stage education for all your children as it were, you know, but they can't. They want to, but they can't. So there are many factors that you need to look at before you begin to talk about, okay, so what happens to the elite and what do they do around it? So somehow there's a loop that is just all around it that we need to be able to diagonalize out, then understand why these things are happening. So this now brings you to the discourse between the public and the private sector. And there's a whole lot that goes on with them, you know. So for example, the, say, I was privileged to be in a dialogue between facilitating a talk between the public sector and the private schools, you know. And they had conversation and the private school leads are saying, man, we are, the nutrition rate is high now. We have serious problems. We have to pay about 26 kinds of levies. And so post pandemic, the pandemic crisis posted now, where are they going from here? So they have to pay for drivers levy, development levy, local council levy, signage levy, radio levy, TV levy, all kinds of levy. And the nutrition rate is getting high. And these guys are saying we are getting tired. And you know, the moment that happens, the human capital of the state and of the country is already jeopardized. So I think that there are more of really intricate things to look at as we begin to balance of what happens between them and we talk about what happens to the L. The reason why I asked that question is because we have leaders who are supposedly to lead us by example, because many would point fingers at those people who are leaders today that they were beneficiaries of the free education back in the day. But that's not necessarily the case now. And then there are many excuses for why we cannot have free education as it was back in the day, because things have changed. But then if you're telling me who's struggling to get my child free, well, better education in a private school to not do that and bring my child to a public school where I'm even struggling to get paid. What about you? Are you willing to bring your own children from the private schools to the public school? And what level of education is available in the first instance? I'll tell you what. For example, in River State, and I'm going to toss that question to you, Professor Wakachai, in a bit. I have had people send me pictures and videos of classrooms in River State, a state where the president would say, well, you know, the whole country would say the governor is walking his Mr. Project. But then how much of those projects have been allocated to schools, to primary schools, to secondary schools that are public under Governor Wike. So again, if we're looking at why was the deterioration of public education is the way it is, should we not be looking at the men and women who are in charge of the system, especially the likes of Governor Wike? But, OK, well, Ikechi, I think I'll toss this to you because you're also from River State, right? Yeah, so I could take that on. Now, the truth of the matter is that I think most of the development where they joined in River State is interest peaks. So the governor wants to project his interest and to also begin to wonder, this was a man who was minister of state for education a couple of months before he became governor of River State. We all hoped that education would be the epicenter of his development as tribes, but unfortunately, it seems like they have other interests in roads, in other things, some other kinds of projects. When he's called Mr. Projects, he's called Mr. Projects for everything else but education. You know, yes, he's tried to down the cases of frequent strikes amongst teachers and education workers. But we still are not satisfied with the kinds and qualities of results where it gets in, especially across the external examination. So education is deep and beyond the infrastructure, which is suffering a lot of decay. Yeah, we don't have as bad cases as we see on most of the screens. But then, you know, we have to maintain what is already on ground. And what is the effort? I mean, to say that in River State, as which is River State is, we still have students who learn in vacant roofs, especially during the rains. We still have flooding in a lot of our schools and a lot of our facilities. So for some months in 2022, for example, there were certain students that were caught off from the basic learning environment because of excess flooding. And it seemed like the government was helpless. But then we're saying that the government that is visionary should think beyond 2022 and say in 2023, OK, this is where this happens, that the students suffer, the teachers suffer. How can we first know this? But it doesn't seem to be in plan. I mean, in terms of infrastructure, then you begin to also look out for the level of participation on the private sector. And then the big question like you were asking your guests a while ago, how many politicians would want to have their children in public schools than go for the private schools where a few private individuals who are paying their taxes and who are being levied by the government are making efforts to bring on some bit of respite to parents. And so we can say that, yeah, we are not clamoring to all the children out of out of the shores of Nigeria to do their primary and secondary schooling. We can have some bit of hope, you know, with schooling in Nigeria because some private schools are making the effort. And so when you look at this, you begin to reason with the fact that government is only focused on the present and has practically no plan for tomorrow. And if you think about it, we are just caring and caring. Oh, Ikechi, I think we're having a little connection issue there with you. But let me toss it back to you here, Akechi. I like that we're looking at it from different, you know, regions. We're going to come back to the lake. I was saying someone has talked about a few things he's done, you know, in terms of paying school fees, why, but we want to go down to the basics. Let's look at the potting of every state. Let's use Lagos State as a litmus test. Where is education? Looking at the SDG goals, have we been able to at least scratch the surface? And in the order of priority, where does education stand? All right, so I would take it more from the federal level than take it down to the state level. So the government is trying. I think President Buyer's regime has tried to see how to increase it between 2016 and date, you know, but we did. I mean, so the past two years, we had like a 50 percent increment is saying by 2025, there should be like 100 percent increment from where he is. And so what we are trying, what I'm trying to say is this, as so now about 1.8 trillion is going into that for education. So we're saying that, OK, that looks huge. That looks massive. I mean, for expenditures, for for all of that, for the federal ministry of education, we are saying that, OK, global standard says that the only way a nation can cater for the education of its people is to ensure that you have a minimum of 20 percent of your budget allocated to it. So trickling down down to Lagos. So that tells you that the gap we have, we are just at about eight percent there about we need 20 percent. So what happens to schools post the pandemic period? What happens to school? You have dilapidated buildings, you have teachers and all of that. So I think the Lagos has tried in some bit. Teachers have been paid. We've seen a few of those schools well renovated and they're getting better. I mean, so in the past three months for like a year, they've been doing a lot of renovation in the schools. And the past three months, there have been a lot of commissioning going on. So I think he has made education one of his most paramount pilots in this in this government where he has placed education amongst the top five, you know. And I think education has probably the largest education and largest budget. So somehow education has got priority here, Lagos.  It's not really it's not necessarily directly the the fault of the maybe the commissioner for education or the state government. And I'll tell you that the reason is because the the primary schools, you know, they are the state is not directly responsible for the primary schools. I hope you know that. Yeah, we do know the local government. But then the question is, where is the local governments in the scheme of things? OK, so don't forget these local governments are still fighting for their monies to be given to them directly. A lot of the duties of local governments have been taken by the state governments. And so there's a blurred line, but they are getting their location now. It's been a battle, an uphill battle. But then it's late in the day, but we can still start doing something. So again, I'm saying there are lots of things that need to be done at the local government level. But these people are being micromanaged by their principles, the state government. The local government is not directly. They're not directly being micromanaged by the state. Really? Their funding is federal. I mean, so if you are one of the ways to get this really sorted is get the commissioner for local government and let them tell you the boundaries and the things that they do, you'll be shocked. They don't respond. They don't get to see where you get your funding from shows who can control you. The funding is not from the state. So if it's not from the state, you can't control them. They can only give report at best. You can only woo them at best. So honestly, it's that's why I said that the funnel is a bit funny. So you check about leadership, you talk about leadership, you then talk about, OK, the local government, what kind of leaders do we also have there? Do they are the people who are very, very compassionate about education? Are they passionate about education or are the leaders by circumstance? So you check a local government chairman has his own commissioner for education. And so you check the credibility of the person is the person also into. So you check it. If you go into the basic education right now, it's completely in a mess. So and the secondary schools now have to start retraining them for them to get better. So in Lagos, you find that the secondary education is far better than the primary education. But that's really sad because that's the foundation of all of it. Before you get to the secondary level. But I'm grateful that you're talking for Lagos State. But because, again, Lagos State just had its local government elections. Thank goodness. Now, in River State, I don't know if we have Professor Woko Chabang, but I'm going to toss this to Ikechi. Ikechi, the last time is Professor here. OK, good. Well, Ikechi, the last time local government elections held in River State, I'm sure that we know what happened right now. That issue is still dragged and caught by between the APC and the PDP. And you and I know what the modus operandi is. These are all men that one way or the other allegedly have been put in there by the governor, who are loyalists to the governor. How can we say that these people cannot be micromanaged by Mr. Governor? Full question. The governor is the prime leader of the state. And my thinking is that whoever the local government has been straight or east, the governor should ensure that there's proper handshake, there's a proper alignment of vision. So what is my vision for education, whether it's at basic level or tertiary level or whatever? What is my so if the local government chamber or the local government council has whatever template they want to run with, they must align with the center. That's why there's a central government headed by the governor. So the government should not be or the local government chairman or whatever should not be absolved from any blame. It should be a teamwork, a team frame. We are headed in this direction because, of course, like in River State, we've had cases in previous administrations where the local councils were really not serious with education and then the state government had to come in there and try to construct schools like the 750 schools, across the board. OK, so it should be a proper teamwork, a proper alignment of ideas. Let's get on the table. Let's have one symposium or one retreat or one summit and say, this is my vision as state government for education. And everyone plug into this, except you have something superior. Of course, we have the conversation table and let's draw upon it. But to say that everyone is operating in isolation for me, it's not credible enough. And that's how we expect at a time like this. We're having this conversation because we want to see what we can do better. Looking at how education has played out in 2022, whether it be primary because we're looking at state for now. We will go to the textual education when we get the professor on. But how do we better? How you started by talking about land and space in Lagos, which is a big challenge. And we know that Lagos is mostly surrounded by water. But then a loss of infrastructure development is happening. So again, government does have the powers over whatever structures or buildings or land. For someone who's interested in education in Lagos state, what do you do in collaboration with the Ministry of Education and stakeholders to see how these kinds of issues can be addressed, especially as the governor is going for a rerun for his election? So like I said, I think Governor Somalu is doing his best for education. And, interestingly, the Commissioner for Education is somebody very passionate about education. Mrs. Folasha de Fisayo, she's doing so well. I mean, she's doing so well, I'll give it to her. I mean, so why do I say she's doing so well? I mean, I could see a bit of the efforts that they're making. I could see a bit of the brainstorming sessions that go on. I could see a few things about what they are up to, as it were. But you see, you are saying that how much is the budget? Is it the gap between 8 percent and 20 percent of what you call community best practice, which is that 12 percent is going to account for a lot of things. So even if you say that, oh, we're not having more buildings come up, how many can they come up? You see, we said that Lagos is responsible for 19 percent of the 10 million out of school children. And so I see the best is to see a better collaboration between the private schools and the public schools, because the government of Lagos, I think, they don't have the capacity to build all the schools that will cater for all the millions of children. So the best thing is to see how do we collaborate with these guys so that they can help enhance these collaborations in the work? Because you see, we can have these great ideas. And if we do not make a step or, you know, try to find out if these collaborations can be possible, then all we're doing is just Georgia and not taking action. Recently, the commissioner for education and the family circuit, which they called for, they had a facilitated knowledge session between the private school operators and the public school operators represented by the heads and the themes that they had. So they had the Georgia together.  So they brought somebody from Loma. I mean, so they had to bring the director from Loma, had to bring the director from the tax place. They had to bring about about 16 power startups. You know, because these guys are saying that we are getting close over 20 levies. How are we going to survive as an organization? So it looks like you want to stifle us and we are going and the moment we pack up, then what happens to the children? We're going to jeopardize what they call the human capital of the country, of the state, as the case may be. So I think that more collaborations need to happen. I think more brainstorming sessions need to happen. I think that the state should be able to accommodate the private private education sectors to make sure they are not stifled.  There are many schools that are not approved, you know, and a whole lot of that. So I think that they are doing their best, but they're still more than they can see. I think we now have Professor Wokochah back with us. Professor Wokochah, I'm going to ask you a very, very sensitive question. I lived in River State for six years and one of the major issues, one of the first things that I reported on as a journalist in River State was that a young child in I think, Jesses 2 or Jesses 3 was buried alive in a school premises while, you know, an initiation process was going on for secondary school students. She refused, obviously, to join the cause and then she was killed and buried in that school ground. It's not enough to say we want to build schools. We want to have more children come to school. How are we impacting the lives of these children and how we checkmating what happens within the school grounds? And I'm talking about the issue of cultism. I'll get to the university version of it, but then we want to grow education, but does it just stop at teaching and learning? Education does not grow from the top. Whether it's in the formal or informal sector, to get a random education, it came from the very beginning and what we feed into the system is what eventually it moves in the system, especially by the time you get to the tertiary institutions, but the average student lives in the society and what is promoted in the society is what impacts the students' ideas of the way to go. I am afraid that as a society, we have a large exchange phase. We have promoted the wrong values. We have recognized people who have engaged in wrong activities and we have not encouraged young ones to look at and look upon those who have been responsible and socially responsible as role models. Now, in that environment, it will be odd for you to expect the normal to happen. So what you see, what you reported in the school that you talked about is just the reality of what we face today in the society. Those who carry the couriers and the guns and the marches have better recognition in society. Look at your public service and you find that a lot of people, if you go back into their past, they have records that are in public domain that makes them on TV for those positions. So in the circumstance, it's not surprising that you see what you are seeing at the primary and secondary level, especially the secondary level. I think it's reflecting the values that the society is promoting and it's the more reason why we need to do something about it. Well, we're still talking education on plus politics as a town hall series and we are looking at the education sector as we get ready for 2023 elections, what should we be adjusting and how can we better the loss of the education sector? My guest still in the studio, Professor Richard Wococcia, who's a professor of law at the River State University, Keiichi Wogu, an educator and national transformation agent and also in the studio with me, Dr. Akin, Akin Pellew. He's a private consultant or principal consultant, a beggar pattern of a rodeo hub. Now, before we went on that break, a professor was telling us about why cultism has become a manus, such a manus, especially in the schools in River State, just like I reported. He talked about value and society, but let's talk about who the educators are, the people who are teaching in these schools, what kind of learning or teaching is going on in these schools, especially in River State. Well, to start with, when you have teachers who are hungry, we could say that because they are salaries are not even very reasonable. I mean, they can scarcely take their home and bring them back to work the following day. That's the starting point. And then it's not regular. I mean, it comes at the east end of the government of the day. You begin to ask yourself what level of dedication we would enjoy from this sector. And then you talk about influence. So, a situation, whether it's private or public, we still have a cream of the students from the homes of the elites.  So how do you talk to me? Like the professor pointed out, he rooted values from society.  Nobody investigates them. Nobody chides them for doing what they do. It seems like, okay, because you're some big man in goods, you are moved along. And then we really don't understand like we are our chief density titles and other societal titles to men who are known criminals. Nobody's asking anymore. Where did he get his money from? What's the source of his wealth? So all of this, I mean, these are the children of these kinds of people. Some of them are children of normal regular people, but they pick habits from the streets and there isn't proper correction at home, maybe because that is too busy, mom is too busy looking to order, you know, other provisions economically. And so all of this would come together in some way to influencing the overall behavior and character traits of these children. Then they bring them down to school. I learned from this movie without proper guidance, without proper modeling. I learned from that movie. I learned from that big brother or the other elder sister that this is a thing and then some children, even one of them, some children love to spoke, okay, in school because of, you know, a mix of peer pressure and all that. And then there is no parent that influence in school because the parents are either not serious about their business, the business of coming to work on a daily business and supervising these children and their outcomes. Some others are just particular about the academics. Oh, you did well in maths, you did well in English, you did well in social studies and they pay no attention to mentoring and modeling. They pay no other attention. So you see a teacher seated in school, seated in class or in the staff room and there's so much noise in the classroom and nobody goes to say, hey, stop making noise. So sometimes I'm driving to work and you see these children strolling it's 10 p.m. It's 11, sorry, 10 a.m. It's 11 a.m. You see some school-aged children in their uniforms still strolling to school and you wonder, is there no code of conduct? All of these things just get you worried and it just adds up to some of the the space that we see, you know, in the public schools. OK, yeah, that's it. OK, I think back to you. When I was younger, if you were asked as a child who you'd want to push your hero or who you want you would want to be when you grew up, most of us wanted to be our teachers because they were our heroes at the time. Is teaching still as... Is it? I don't know why you're laughing, but is it still as prestigious as we used to regard it? Do people even go into teaching now because they want to teach because they love it or because they want to earn a living? And if I mean, I'm trying to understand, are we there where we used to be or have we totally lost it? Suddenly, the dignity of the teaching profession has been greatly eroded. And so people do not find any form of dignity in going into that profession. So what you find in the public now is very simple. The teachers that you have, they are teachers. Most of them are teachers by circumstance. I mean, those days you have people who are passionate to say from childhood, oh, I have a hero as a teacher, so I want to end up as a teacher. Now, you are finding teachers who got there not because they wanted to be teachers. So if you diagonalize it, how did most of our teachers become teachers? So number one, that was not what they wanted to study in school. You hear they give me, they give me education.  And many of them just feel like, oh, they are not as good as they are as they are made. So the moment they don't get another job, they go and settle for for teaching. So some people have been looking for jobs for a while and interestingly, they will tell you that man, the only thing they can settle for is to be a teacher. So now when you bring that attitude into the classroom, you are going to find that there is no there's no motivation. There is no there's no form of modeling. They are not so excited about what they are doing. So a few things that you would say, oh, these are these are values you should pass to the children. They are not even connected. They are thinking of the business they have to go do at home. They're thinking of who they need to quickly reach out. And some of them have personal issues at home maybe because they are not paid well and they are they're still suffering a little thing and here and there. So the problem is a whole lot. And so you go to the family system to I saw the family the parents are so busy dumping everything on the teachers. So the moment the teachers cannot do it well, they come to shout on the teachers. But honestly, the teachers that we have put us to the states that have been training their teachers, but I think they're still a strong gap and there's a whole lot that needs to be done. Every day of my life I almost interact with educators and teachers, you know, across the globe. And I just find that many of them are not excited to be teachers. In fact, many of them are not proud to be called teachers. So I think that a lot needs to be done. So the mental state of the teachers, apart from apart from the monies that they end, what about the mental state?  So if you look at other countries that go to the U.S. or a few other places, it's quite prestigious to be a teacher. You are excited, you're proud to be in a teacher, you know, and and and and interestingly, I see a few things Lagos have been doing these days. I see them award their best teacher. So I interacted with a teacher for the first time at the Lagos Education Summit. You know, I sat down, I listened to him on the panel session. I said, you're kidding me. This is not a public school teacher. And I was, I was, I was so I was, I was thrown away. And I was like, wow, this is good. Something is happening. But the gap is still there. There's still a whole lot that needs to be done. So we need to educate the teachers. Now go to the schools. Now when they have been, when they are starting to become teachers, what were they learning? The curriculum, the teachers training them. I mean, so are we backward in our curriculum? Is it obsolete? Is it still practical? So what we are teaching, now is it 24, is it 24th century education? And all of that. So you bring that back into the classroom. I said that there's just a whole lot that needs to be done. So we may need to overhaul the teachers. For some, we need to retrain them. For some, we need to have a graduate conversion program to ensure that their brain is washed so that they can see and be better. That's a whole political talk on this.  Let's talk about Ashu because I mean, that's the elephants in the room as we speak. We cannot talk about all the education and not talk about textural education. Every year, we're churning out numbers of graduates and some of them can't spell their names. Some of them are unable to hold a job. And I mean, the list is endless. But then talking about the mental state of teachers, we talk about the lecturers who have been on strike for some time now. Can we say that the situation between Ashu and the federal government and this pay has been overly politicized because government is also on that particular table. Government feels that this is overly politicized. Again, what needs to be done for grounds to move or for the situation to get better? First, I think... Go ahead. Yeah, first, I think government has demonstrated clearly that it is not interested in promoting education in Nigeria. I said this is the sense of responsibility. The challenges we are facing, and it reflects even at the secondary and the lower levels, is more of changing environment and less of teacher quality. I agree that, like every profession, teachers need to be encouraged, they need to be retrained, they need to be encouraged to do all that they can to keep themselves up to date and to improve, to go beyond where they are. But our challenges are more environmental than teacher-based. Many students you have in the classrooms, what forms are available for the students to sit on to study? How do you teach 1,000 students or 500 students with your voice? And how on earth with those who are in the back, from the middle to the back of the hall, understand what you're saying? How about situations where you have students hanging around the window or sitting somewhere on the floor in order to find a point from which they can hear the teacher? The problems are more environmental and they are issues that government can address pointedly. So I am convinced that government has lost interest in promoting education. And we appear to have funded on education. Yes, we appear to have funded illiteracy more than we have attempted to fund education. We call on how many billion students who have spent on feeding out of school children, whether or not school is in session throughout the COVID period with... Professor, I'm so sorry. I think we're having connection issues with you, but can you hear me now? Professor Wakucha, I think we're having a connection issue with Professor Wakucha. Quickly, I think I'm just gonna toss to Ikechi. Can we pick it up from there until we're able to get Professor Wakucha about? Yes, we're talking about funding out of school children and all that, and that number is growing, especially in certain parts of the country. We had some statistics saying there are as much as 13 million out of school children in Nigeria at some point. I mean, we said, I don't know if that has grown to 15 or 17. And you're raising a negative force for the future that will come at us through pan-mitri, through the mechanism of all sorts, through dogry and all that. And if there is no real plan to cater to that population, then the nation will also stand at risk. And that is not also to identify with the poor administration, the poor administration of schooling for which we are raising constantly, we're constantly raising a mass underclass.  Let's not forget that a cream of our politicians, political leaders, leaders, ministers, House of Representatives, members of the Senate and all that, a lot of them or all of them would have come from schools in Nigeria. So if we don't pay particular attention to basic schooling and the education as a whole, at whatever level, especially in that sherry level, you realize that decision-making will be tilted, decision-making will be slowed. And this would, in basic ways, slow the pace of development in Nigeria, a situation where any office site worker cannot really stand shoulder to shoulder and power with his contemporaries in other parts of the world because of the relatively poor remuneration, especially relatively poor exposure to basic teaching tools, teaching aids, teaching facilities. And all of this is on the shoulders of government to do, like the Prok was just saying a while ago, government should plan. So what is the plan for education for tomorrow? The next five years, the short term, the medium term, the future, can we have some hope on the vision the government has for education for the future of a nation like Nigeria? Otherwise, I tell you the truth, we're just sitting on the keg of gunpowder because this would include on our faces and they would begin to ask ourselves, where were we all this while? When all of these negative biases were building up and we actually kept quiet and did nothing. Talking about doing something about it, if not, we're sitting on a keg of gunpowder and we're acting, elections are around the corner. Campaigns are happening. They're giving us the best of fine and dandy words, telling us that they can't even change water to wine. What should Nigerians be specifically listening to or looking out for in terms of what these politicians have to say as they campaign for the education sector? For those, I mean, because if it affects warning, it affects all of us, so. So it's interesting that as we get towards election, you would hear a lot of promises, you hear a lot of high-sounding nonsense, you get a lot of promises come out. So I think that it's also a point of call for all of us to be able to ask ourselves. I think like, I get to say, said just now that what's the vision? What's the vision? So when you listen to a man and you say education is like the most important across all but. So when you listen to what the president has to say concerning education, you would look at the quality of what he's saying, check the depth of what he's saying, check the practicality of what he's saying, check the strategies that he's talking about. You will know whether he knows what he's saying or somebody wrote this thing for him and he's reading it out. You get it. And so most times people should be able, I think that people should be able to gather and say, okay, with what you have said, we don't think that this is good enough for you to say you want to do this. So I think what happens is that many times we are just excited about what they say and we don't go back to think about it. You know, so I think that as Nigerians and we should just be wise this time and let's go for depth and let's see what can deliver. And that's what I'll say around that. Ikechi, I'm going to come back to you. We talk about capacity development. You see politicians are very quick to say we're going to empower the youth. We'll empower the youth. I don't know what it means. I don't know if it's about giving them sewing machines. I don't know if it's about giving them metocycles or generators or barbing equipment. I don't know what empowering the youth in words of a politician means. But if we're not building capacity for young people as we, you know, are building our country side by side, what is the future of Nigeria? The future is really scary. I was reading something in the deal. It's just over the weekend. So it's real. The United Kingdom is actually coming now to Nigeria. Okay, and they are scaling low. So formerly it was at Tashiri students. It was at Happy Town Slides. Come for scholarships. There are opportunities. There are openings in UK universities. Right now, UK second month schools, UK primary schools are coming to our best students. So this is the future of the nation, right? When children who are 10 years old, 15, 20, and all of that, and of course, the best of them. And nobody would want to go there and just walk back into Nigeria because Nigeria seems not to have a plan for the Missutimu plan.  So it's really scary because when we talk about empowerment in these parts, we talk about, like you said, soy machines. Talk about hairdressing, teeth like two kids. We talk about clip-ass and all of that.  We should create work. I'm sure that the youth of the future, the Nigerian youth who's really aware of what he wants, what he's talking at school, he wants a life for himself. He wants to leave his house in the morning and go work and contribute meaningfully to the value of the nation.  And if you look at what is happening, a lot of what is going on in Nigeria, whether it's the social media area or the entertainment industry, most of these guys, most of these young people are fending for themselves. They are creating for themselves. When we talk about the creative industry, we have Nigerians who have come out of their acute frustration and they are saying, hey, I can do this for myself. And then the moment you begin to do that, guess what, the tax masters come in and they say you've got to contribute some substance to the nation. And it could be something of frustration when they want to clamp down on your office space, they want to shut you down. What did you contribute to my rising up to this place?  And now you want to come collect this. And so the first thing you want to think about is, how can I evade my taxes? And so Nigeria in particular is very good at creating these haps. Like Nigeria is very good at creating, grounds for corruption, grounds to shoot herself in the foot, grounds to undermine herself. Okay, so when we talk about empowering youth, like you pointed out, we should be talking about trainings. What basic skills do our young people need to feed themselves in the future? Look at the nations, China and the rest of them. Not all of their young people go to universities, not everyone would advance to university level. But basically, they enable them with skills. Oh, I can do this. Oh, I want to end up with basic technology. They equip them, they engage them, they ensure that there are jobs, they send them out, they outsource them to other nations where they can find use for themselves. And so bit of this revenue comes back to the Chinese nation, comes back to the country, to the national cofast. But in Nigeria, there is nothing, they just leave everyone to his fate.  The Nigerian nation, I think, needs to be more intentional about her citizenry. The Nigerian nation has to be more calculated. They need to say, this is the kind of future of what to happen to the nation in the next five years, the next 10 years. This is the kind of administration I want to leave behind. After eight years or four years of my political leadership, and then we want to measure the resource. That's a proper pressure system to say, was my plan effective at the end of the day? Otherwise, everything is just a chase after the wind, and Nigeria is fast becoming like a joke where we stand before the nation. So that's my opinion. I think the most important thing that you mentioned is a self-appraisal, which is something that, unfortunately, you might be that our leaders are bereft of. But let's quickly bring back Professor Wokoccia. I think we've been able to admit him. Professor Wokoccia, President Bohari has said that the education sector stinks of corruption, and he mostly was talking about the situation around the astro-strike. Again, he has said to young people that we should not see education as a means of getting government jobs. I'm going to allow you the last say on the show tonight. Where exactly do you think the president is going with this issue of not looking for government jobs? Of course, we all can't get government jobs. And then looking at the issue of corruption in the education sector, where do we start to deal with it? And how certain are we that we can actually deal with that corruption if it's something that is generally endemic in the Nigerian fabric? Well, first, I think in the first place, the president seems to be realizing this too late. He should have realized long ago why he had time to do something about it. Secondly, while I agree here, it's an endemic corruption in Nigeria. I think that the problem of education in Nigeria is not corruption in the schools. I think it is corruption in the system the system that saves the schools that is supposed to program the schools that should design what the schools are teaching and that should determine what the products of our education system are. I think that is really the problem like, it's not about what happens in the classrooms. It's a good thing the president is realizing this at this point, but I think whatever we are to do is no longer what he is to do because time has run out on this administration. It's a question of our thinking of what we want to do in the future. I think mind taking all the steps after taking the transitional period, but definitely we are in a very bad shape in the education sector in this country. And as the other guests have said, if we really want to get serious in this country, we will need to do something about the education sector. Education shows you where the general wants to go. The general wants, one of the British prime ministers said the trade, most of the priorities of the administration was education, education and education. And it's a nation that has no place for education or a nation that faces education the way we are treating it like a private business and not as a social service that is at the root of the nation's development has plans to fail. So I think we need to generally change the way we look at education. The country has talked about transitions, multiple transitions and a number of things. Education is not a business. And states that are serious, even the American state invests probably funds in promoting education at the private level. You must recognize education as a social service and the one that is at the root of the nation's surveillance and development. I think if we don't have the realization, I'm afraid we have our own at the moment and until we're able to think outside of that situation, we are in the woods. And for whoever decides, or whoever emerges and takes over from President Bohari after the transition in three elections, should education be the first point of call or do we have bigger fish to fry? If it has a mission at hand, education should be the first thing for me. He must face education and then face other things that follow. Okay, well, I want to say thank you, gentlemen. Professor Richard Aduche Wokachai is a professor of law at the River State University. Ikechi Wogo is an educator and national transformation agent and also Dr. Akinpalu is the principal consultant Eridu Hub, who's also an education consultant. Thank you so much, gentlemen, for being here in the studio. We appreciate that. And we're hoping that these conversations can be had often than once in a blue moon. Yeah. Thank you once again, gentlemen. And Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Well, that's it on the show tonight. All right, thank you. That's it on the show tonight. Tomorrow we return with yet another sector of the economy as we discuss and count down to 23-3 and all that we look forward to during the elections. I am Mary Annacon. Have a beautiful evening. Good night.