Dwi'n ddweud i'n meddwl y tîm, ond y peth yn y ffordd yn ddiddordeb yn ymddiadol yng nghymru, ond dwi'n ddiddordeb yn ymgyrchu gyda gyda'r ysgol. Rwy'n meddwl ymddiadol yw ymddiadol yn ymddiadol yn teimlo'r ddechrau, ac mae'n ddiddordeb yn ymddiadol y rowf i blyneddau'r ysgol. I've benefited by visiting professorships and opportunities to speak at most UK universities at one time or other, my career. I was seduced to go and take a job as executive director of the Australian Digital Futures Institute, which is based a place called Twwmba in Queensland, which is 100 miles west of Brisbane, right up high as the Australian range starts. So, when the conference organisers wanted to invite me to speak, we discussed the variety of things that it could be. I could have talked to you about research on my new book or all sorts of other things, and what they wanted was some sort of impression of Australia in my first eight months there. So, this is what I'm going to do, but I'm going to show you some of my impressions so far of the similarities and differences because, as you know, in making comparisons, hopefully there's lessons for us all, and I learnt something by reflecting on it as you often do too. So, I'm delighted to have the chance to share that with you. So, does everybody know what cookaburras are? You can see some nice ones up here. They're quite prevalent throughout eastern Australia, and the most characteristic thing really is that they have this amazing cackling laugh, and there is a YouTube video with it on Donal, so if we get time, I'll put it up. When I first heard it, which was in our garden, it reminded me of being in university really because there was people going around cackling about all sorts of things and continuing this over quite a long period of time, and I suddenly thought that they were pretty much like the cookaburras really. But the cookaburras are also extremely interesting because when you look at the aboriginal knowledge, cookaburras have been very much valued over the years. Mainly, I think, for their ability to get rid of snakes. I have got a fantastic video which is on YouTube showing a cookaburra catching, killing and eating a snake, but I just thought I wouldn't show it to you right now. But you can go and have a look. If you put cookaburras and snakes into YouTube, you do get some amazing pictures. One of the reasons for that, I think, is that they are very easily enticed into gardens. In Australia, it is a requirement that all swimming pools are fenced, at least a metre high in particular kinds. You'll see with some of the pictures I've got that this means that you've got just the right platform and they all sit along. Here you can see them in a branch, but they all sit along the top of the fence on our swimming pool and almost everybody else's as well. They're actually from the Kingfisher family, so they really, really like meat. They don't eat seeds. We also feed all the other birds and the roos and all sorts of other things in our garden. We've attracted a whole variety of parrots and parakeets by seeds, but the only thing we found that the cookaburra is minced kangaroo meat, raw. They don't like it cooked. Tried them with dog food and that, but they wouldn't eat it. They now come every morning and sit around waiting to be fed.  They're all lining up waiting for someone to sort the technology out for them. What I was going to talk about is a few personal snaps, but I thought I'd show you where I am. This is Australia, of course. What these green and red dots are is to say where Australia, and I'm going to say a bit more about this later, is just on the brink of rolling out a complete national broadband network across the country. The red were the pilot areas. This is up in the north of Queensland, and you can see some of the others. This is where we are here. To Wumba, where the USQ campuses are, one of them is going to be in the second wave, and that starts now. It's really interesting because we are being given the opportunity to truly test what it means to have effective high speed broadband, either in a rural or a small city area. That's fantastic in terms of the opportunity to try things. That's where I am about there. I arrived in January. My first weekend there, it was sunny for a day or so. We'd left England in minus 13 degrees and huge snowfalls, which thought just for a day or two immediately after Christmas, and enabled us to leave. Then very soon after our first weekend came, it started raining, and it rained and rained. I've never seen rain like it. As a result of that, on my first day at work, to Wumba flooded. This was an example of what it looked like. They called it a tsunami because what happened is that once these cars started floating away, they blocked all the bridges from the creeks and it simply backed up and went into a brand new shopping centre where our car had been parked the day before. It's just a chance event. 35 people lost their lives there. The water then went down the range and met with a very high tide at Brisbane and flooded Brisbane. That was my first introduction to Australia. Most extraordinarily, it also introduced us to how resilient and how collaborative and how community-orientated the Australian people were. We'd been pretty fed up, only just getting away and only just having roads and pavements to get as far as Heathrow when we left the UK in the snow last winter, only to find that the community spirit and the huge resilience in the face of extraordinary and unexpected disasters was quite remarkable. I don't really know what that is about, but I can promise you there was something very, very different about the Australian community's response to this particular disaster compared to the extreme conditions that we left behind in the UK. It's probably the subject of another conversation. Anyway, we got over that and when my daughter came out of Easter, she's an amateur photographer, but this is genuine. You can see the people on the bridge there. You know you can climb Sydney Harbour Bridge. Well, Paula and I were standing actually in the opera house looking back, and that was my husband up there, we think, as far as we can tell. We also, this was a harbour cruise on Good Friday, and it was absolutely fantastic and so easy, so you can see why people love these places, because they're just subtractive places to visit. This was in our front yard as I went out for my first professorial inaugural lecture. As you can see, it's quite a large carpet snake that was on the move across our driveway. They're not dangerous, but for Danelle's benefit, it's very beautifully marked across its back and very attractive. There are some dangerous snakes there, and one of the first things my colleagues at the Futures Institute did was show me pictures of them so that I know not what were dangerous and what weren't the same with the spiders. That was certainly just outside our front door. We were celebrating my professorial lecture that day. This is my daughter Paula and myself, held in a koala in Queensland. You're allowed to hold them in Victoria, you're not. This is a place called Lone Pine near Brisbane. Definitely worth a visit if you're in Australia. We had an absolutely wonderful time there. I thought you'd like to see. They're incredibly cute. They're so wonderful and gorgeous. Back to the cookaburras. This is our backyard. This is the fence around our swimming pool. This is one of the most gorgeous birds that visit us, as you can see. You can see, as I say, they're part of the Kingfisher family. The ones in that area of eastern Australia are incredibly blue, turquoise blue on their wings. This one is weighted to be fed, and there you go. That's my husband throwing a piece of mince meat. He now holds his hand out and they take it from his fingers. There he is. As you can see up here, we've also attracted a whole variety of other birds because the cookaburras quite often drop things. This bird actually comes down and takes it in there and there before the cookaburra gets it in his mouth. They're kind of big magpie type things. These pictures were taken by Ali who was sitting at the front here when he visited us recently on his iPhone. We've got lots more besides. Anyway, so that's just to tell you about something of the environment that's in. When I had a look round to see whether anybody had really thought this interesting phenomenon of higher education between Australia and the UK, I found there was quite a bit of comparative literature about, but it was mainly on government policy type of stuff. I really didn't find much, certainly in the time I looked, that made a comparison between the UK and Europe and Australia, which I thought was quite surprising. I'm sure somebody will tell me otherwise now, but I certainly didn't find anything much that was of interest. I think in view of some of our so similar roots, it's really quite an interesting study at the moment. In fact, so what I'm most of what I'm going to tell you is really experiential and starting to get involved now in certainly Queensland policy and certain to try and innovate in the University of Southern Queensland. I think if you look at Australia as a global player in higher education, there really are weaknesses and strengths compared to here. Most of them are to do with Australia's geographical isolation rather than the social structures, I think, and also the fact that it's usually dominated by SMEs of various kinds, which is more like Southern Europe in many ways. Most people are employed in very small companies, rural areas. That seems to have resulted in a very low propensity to network and collaborate across institutions and between universities and organisations. I'd say less than here. So that was one interesting thing that I first came across. There is the notion of collaborating to compete the same as there is here, but I think in practice there's rather less of that happening than you would think. However, another contrast is Australia has one of the really incredibly strongest economies in the world at the moment. I know that some people, mates and friends I've been speaking to, they're completely amazed that we're not being subject to some of the same things that are happening here. There's been really almost two decades of continuous growth without the dip that's happened almost everywhere else in the world. There's been a huge amount of structural reform in government and states, so you've actually got a remarkably flexible and resilient economy, which also underpins your ability to operate in the global markets. I do think the strength of Australia's economy has been highlighted in recent years, and they have managed to resist a number of internal and external events like major drought, housing boom and the Asian financial economic crisis. So you would then think that there would be a huge amount of innovation because you kind of think that you'd innovate more in the situation of that kind of economic strength. Regrettably I've been somewhat disappointed about that. Obviously there is a strong record of innovation and achievement in many fields, including science, medicine, industry and agriculture and of course mining, and a lot of the innovations and achievements are actually of a different sort of knowledge, or at least driven by this kind of the indigenous people and combined with the European settlers have led to quite interesting combinations of old style and new style knowledge, which is very, very interesting to work with, and has led to quite contemporary medical and scientific breakthroughs. However, when you look at Australia ranking, saying OECD rankings, they're quite low on innovation still. So there are some interesting things around the area which obviously spills off if you're trying to innovate in the university. I mean one of these is the kind of obvious one that the actual land mass is 33 times bigger. So I showed you just then where I was about here. That's how the UK plus Ireland would fit in. Okay, it's another take on it. This is Australia, how it would go over to Lithuania. So we are talking about a vast area. And if you haven't been there, it's so difficult to quite imagine what that means and how it impacts on people's thinking and actual lifestyle. Now Australia's population has grown from an estimated 350,000 at the time of British settlement in 1788 and there's been numerous waves of immigration during the period since. And at the moment due to these waves of immigration, the European component of the population is declining as a percentage although that is of course happening here in many other western countries. In practice Australia has scarcely more than two persons per square kilometre of total land area because most of it is actually desert, those are the states. And 89% of Australia's population actually lives in an urban area. Now we think about the south east of England starting to tip down. I can tell you if you see south east of England there'll be a lot more dropping in that way. Whereas the population itself is less than half of ours. There's 40 universities compared to our 109. So I just wanted to talk a little bit about the impact of the national broadband network and accessibility. If you can see along here, this is the main railway line. Most of the, there just isn't railway or infrastructure in most of the rest. So it's very significant. People drive, the roads are highly drivable and empty. And so putting this national broadband network in is going to be such a significant change over the next few years. Now some similarities. There is dependency on overseas students just the same as here. And interestingly as I was leaving Leicester so they were just creeping into the Middle East market and University of Southern Queensland is also creeping the other way. So I'm starting the next time I go to Dubai or somewhere like that to meet students both from Leicester and USQ. The situation in Australia itself, I think from my observation that there's quite a major rush towards the market competition and the push then to replace in many forms of academic governance. They are all becoming much more entrepreneurial and corporate life. And that seems to be happening even faster than here, I'd say. So as deregulation again next year, it's not as strong as here but it's still causing a little bit of shake-up. So essentially we are moving from a Republic of Scholars to kind of stakeholder organisations. So just a little bit about creativity and innovation. Of course if you go to Australia, then you will find that it's incredibly creative and artistic. This is the way I'm actually using the four approach to innovation that I used at Leicester. This time it's a space metaphor. I haven't got time to show you this but I hope you'll take a bit of a look. Those of you are familiar with the four quadrants that we used at Leicester and they're still in use there to innovate across the university. Then you'll see I've taken a similar approach and it seems to be working at EOSQ. So thanks very much for listening. I'm happy to answer questions and I hope you'll practice the Cuckabara laugh when you return to your offices from tomorrow. Thank you very much, Julie. Thank you for coming all this way. It's a lot further than it used to be. Are there any questions that you have for Julie that you'd like to ask? They're still thinking. Anything online, Matt? Not yet, we'll just do it in time. That's always a good sign. Have you got your video? Oh, I'm sorry, there's a question here. Can you just tell us who you are and where you're from for the... Nigel Aclesfield from the Learning and Skills Improvement Service. Just a quick one, Julie, and I'll ask you to reflect on the possibilities for collaboration between Australian and UK institutions. I mean, there's a lot of light, sort of heat generated by this, but not much light so far in terms of gaining from our shared perspectives which you indicated in the talk. Yeah, well, that was one of my... the ideas, really, that if we... I think in any partnership we do need to work out what your strengths and weaknesses and what each of you bring to the table. And that's why I was quite surprised to find that there really wasn't much about this. And that's why, obviously, I'm in a great position to start to explore that. So I think we do need to understand better what each brings to the table rather than just assuming we're both working in the same kind of environment. I also haven't found much funding so I think it's up to us as individuals to get this ball rolling. On from our virtual delegates. This question comes from... Let me just try that. This question's coming from Manish Malik in Portsmouth. I mean, he's asking about the Australia students' rating of teachers and is that something that might would be innovative for the UK? Yes. I think that because of the slightly stronger orientation towards managerialism that there is in Australia, it's probably more acceptable than it would be here. It would be my guess. Maybe that would be something we could have a go at Nigel. There's just one up there. There's one up there for Rich. Rich Ranker from Lancaster. I've forgotten the question in his transit up here. No, I'm teasing. How many universities are there and you said that there's very little collaboration and I wondered, is there kind of an equivalent of ALT in Australia? There might be some Australians who cannot do this better than I can, but there's ASCALITE which is probably the equivalent to membership organisations similarly. There's also ACODE and there's been a number of smaller organisations. I'm only just starting to get involved with these organisations so there's probably people who can answer better on this. However, they don't seem to have the policy impact that ALT has started to have in the UK but they are certainly communities of practice. There are communities of practice that are very strong in Australia so I'd say between individuals working together there's no problem but I was thinking more on large-scale collaborations not a lot of evidence of that either within Australia or with overseas organisations. Did you know a bit more about that? Yes, somebody did know. Matt Rill from the Tribal University in Melbourne. I thought members enjoy reciprocal arrangements with ALT members. They're just about to start doing C-Mult as well. Anybody who's an ALT member who'd like to come to the conference you can get the member rates and that sort of thing and there's actually quite a number of people who do like yourself who are aware of ALT in Australia and vice versa. I'm keen writing an ASCALITE conference in December. However, I would say that the University of Southern Queensland where I'm working is the first overseas member of ALT. So it has to work both ways, doesn't it? Maybe some sort of live link up for next year's ALT C would be quite fun. It would be, wouldn't it? It's a good idea. There's so much to learn from each other. Thank you, Julie. The photos look so absolutely wonderful. I can kind of understand why I might want to go to Australia but I wondered if you could expand a bit more as to why you went to Australia and what your strategy is what learning purposes have you got there? I think it was just a bit of an adventure and as you can see we're having that. But also because the University offered me a serious approach, well-funded approach to imagine in the future and it was just irresistible. Can I ask you to join me in thanking Julie very much for coming all this way?


Okay, we're back. We're live. It's the 4 o'clock clock. I'm Jay Fiedel. This is Hawaii the state of clean energy our flagship energy show here on Wednesday afternoons and We have an arrangement by which our host Mitch Ewing and joins us from the University by Vmix call and we have our guest Mike Mark Markridge who was the president of Rebuild Hawaii, which is a a nonprofit that rebuilds things and and One of them is a hydrogen project. Okay, we're going to talk today about the hydrogen Festival, okay, which is coming soon, which you need to know about and which more Mike can tell you about and Mitch I'm going to turn it over to Mitch because he's the true host of this show. Hi, Mitch Aloha y'all This is really cool Yeah, I got caught in a really vicious thunderstorm I guess you don't want to hear about that, but I just was nowhere I could make it down in the studio. So I Think Tech Hawaii worked their magic and I'm talking to you from my very busy office studio that I have here Aloha and Mike, thank you so much for agreeing to Come out and be our guest today. We're going to talk about this 2019 Hydrogen Festival. I think this was number one. It's going to be the first one we've had here in Hawaii So Mike, why don't you give us a quick little background of what your background is and How you came about? You know putting this whole project together. So I started working as an economist 20 years ago and I started doing papers on different things in Hawaii and I'm looking straight ahead now. So one of the things that came about again and again was the cost of energy and over time I found out about hydrogen and it occurred to me that one of the things we needed to do was educate people about the importance of a hydrogen and Why we need to include hydrogen in our lives and hydrogen is a fuel and How this is something for the future and so We came to the idea that maybe we should have a festival, you know This is a scientific thing and normally when you you talk about fuels you talk about energy you're talking about a Lot of people sitting around panels and holding conversations about very weighty issues But oftentimes it takes a long time to go beyond that and we wanted to do something what which could was more aspirational and which would capture the public's imagination which could involve school children the Department of Education different aspects of Hawaiian society and That's the idea for the Hawaii hydrogen Festival, which is scheduled for August 16th this year and we want to have all the major players who are doing hydrogen hydrogen vehicles people who are cooking with hydrogen people who are using hydrogen for to create power and people in Hawaii and people on the mainland and people in Japan and South Korea and in Europe where Hydrogen is part of much more part of the conversation than this with many people today in the United States So that's the idea. It's a hydrogen festival. Well, it's great that you're taking this initiative Mike we in the Academic and engineering communities to get about the general public then we just naturally assume they know everything about hydrogen And where the industry is but in reality unless we like get out and and show Show the flag as we used to say in the Navy They're not going to know what's going on. So for example, everybody thinks that hydrogen is like 10 years down the road Well, the news is that hydrogen has arrived Hydrogen vehicles have arrived and they've actually arrived in Honolulu and in Hawaii In the form of the Mariah Toyota Mariah, which served though stepped up to the plate. I mean hats off to serve though They took their initiatives. They went to corporate. They got agreement to Currently lease the Mariah vehicle here in Honolulu and out of their own pocket No government money. No grant. No, nothing. I mean they just dug into their hip pocket and put together the funding required and they built the first public Hydrogen fueling station in Hawaii by public I mean that they've even offered that anybody who has a hydrogen car can come and fill up at their station I don't know Puna Puna and I mean what what leadership is that and vision and Going for it. So now they have The Toyota Mariah available for lease and I don't want to quote what the lease rates are But from my point of view, it seemed to be very attractive and they do include like a three-year supply of hydrogen and all the operation and maintenance costs are free as I understand it I'm qualified that so it's a really good deal. And so essentially Hydrogen and hydrogen vehicles are now here in Hawaii. We have other projects, of course I mean Stan Osserman and the HVAD have been working on Hygiene for at least 15 or longer about 20 years with the US Air Force Hickam Air Force Base and we also have a hydrogen station that H&I is put up at the caniola Marine Corps Base Unfortunately, those stations are not accessible by the general public because they are on you know military bases So it's very difficult to be able for you know, a member of the public to come in and kill it and they're frankly not set up to be a Traditional fueling station like they don't have a point of sale and you can't swipe a credit card or whatever So you're not so your vehicle. So I've been doing a lot of talking. So let me go back to our guest You're supposed to be doing a little talking and asking a little bit more put them on the spot We had a discussion at lunch today. So a little bit more of what the plans are How are you envisioning this all coming together? So Mike? I'll get some of that out to you and I'll fill in the blanks. Go ahead. Okay. Well The way this came about was I was I was doing research on early motorcars in Hawaii And you can kind of think you know, what what does this have to do with hydrogen? But you know around the turn of the century, you know, Hawaii was always kind of news. We have your photographs. We can show Okay People don't realize that the motor car goes back to 1765, you know, we can but if this is a little later Can you can you flip that on the side so we can see that's Okay, wait, we're gonna we got to turn it the right way Okay Anyway, so anyway, okay, so so people were saying oh well hydrogen is taking a long time to come along We don't know what's going to happen But I became very interesting because how fast the motor car once it started once people got really involved when they became interested Once it became really important the motor car just kind of took off and at first when when people were Coming up with all these different kinds of motor cars, I think you know, they're like more than a thousand companies more manufacturers You know, there were there were people who are using steam and and and there were people who wanted to use gasoline And you know people weren't sure what would work best and you know if you had a steam car You know you had to get the thing percolating and you had to you know Heat up the boiler and yet you had to get it going and they were how does you get the brakes going and so forth? And and then and then came along people who said no, no, that's just too complicated We should use gasoline and and people said not that won't take off and then people you know It started experimenting and one thing it led to another and and and then it very fast it went to gasoline cars and you know the Model T and very much to and What we know are very familiar with today And so suddenly we were transitioning to an electric car and the next thing will be and what is now is the hydrogen car And why this is important is that? 30% of our transportation is fossil fuel emitting and you know when we're thinking about the future we have to think figure out How can we reduce this how can we reduce this in a meaningful way at a very at a very basic way? And and that's what the public has to do because the public has to choose to use hydrogen They have to have to choose these electric vehicle They have to choose not to use fossil fuels and and they have to want to make that choice And so by having a hydrogen festival, which I hope will be the first of a number of festivals we'll be able to you know Capture the public's imagination the way people did with the motor car and say well, you know Here's another path. This is aspirational. This is something that anybody can do and just look around the world How fast this is changing how you know of large? Trucking companies on the mainland now are gearing up for hydrogen trucks and in Japan You know the the designer of the Prius, you know is now the designer of the Mara, you know, they You know, they're saying look this is happening. We're doing this and so we're gonna have Panels as you always have where people can Experts from the wrong world will come and talk about hydrogen and how it fits in our society and different ways that it fits You know, whether it's the motor car or if it's in marine transportation or Maybe in aeronautics You know, we're gonna have talk about how this could be used on our grid to make our Our grid so we can use less fossil fuels, you know, we're gonna look at all the different aspects of how this new hydrogen economy Will fit into this new Hawaii economy, you know people always say that things don't change that fast But actually they really do you know, you know You know People say, you know, if you look at the history of Hawaii, for example, and you say, okay Well, you know first, you know, they're When people came here, you know, the Hawaiians were here and they developed this tremendous technology with fish ponds and all this amazing things that they did and then Europeans came and then they had, you know, the whaling industry people thought the whaling industry was gonna be here For a long time, but you know within about 50 75 years it changed it It disappeared and sugar came in and then people thought well sugar will be here Forever it'll always be here in 50 years. It was it was gone and now, you know, we're in this very urbanized space and we're We're looking at you know, how do we cope with all these people? How do we cope with all these cars? How do we cope with all these fossil fuels and maybe that path is hydrogen and You know the hydrogen is festival is the way to learn about this to look at this to involve all the different aspects of our community into this New path is rapidly coming our way. Yeah, okay. Well, I'm gonna take a break now gentlemen Mitch and Mike and we come back I wonder if you could address the question of where hydrogen cars fit in a diversity of Renewable vehicles and how they play with electric cars and what to what extent if any Our electric cars gonna be on display at the hydrogen festival think about that question We'll take one minute off. 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We're live. This is Hawaii the state of clean energy I'm Jay Fidel and our host Mitch Ewan joins us from his office and UH Manoa HNE I And we're gonna talk some more with Mike Markridge our guest today Who is from rebuild Hawaii and we're going to talk about the hydrogen festival which is in August and Mitch I hope that you ask Mike to talk about the relationship and presence of electric cars at the festival I'm going to ask that question I'm just going to editorialize slightly here in that Basically a hydrogen car is an electric vehicle now. We've been trying for years to get our legislation in place so that you know, I A hydrogen car, which is an electric vehicle can have the same basic advantages as a battery Electric vehicle. It looks like this year. It's going to make it and I'm sure some of that credit must go to serve code probably been helping please offer a legislature legislators on the fact that actually a hydrogen car is an electric car and You know the hygiene is just a way another way to store electricity. So Mike how about doing that some idea of What we can expect at the hydrogen festival, I know I know it's like early days and Like we just had our meeting at lunchtime But what what kind of highlights do you think that we should be talking about and looking at well? What I want to do is I want to bring in international Visionaries leaders in hydrogen Transportation to talk about things people are doing how they're doing it I can't really give very many names right now because what this is still in the planning stage But you know, maybe you could mention some of the people we talked about at lunch. Oh, I can sure yeah Well, we're looking at all the major hydrogen players like NEL hydrogen, which used to be called photon Amoresco means a local energy services company US hybrid who actually is a fuel cell developer Manufacturer more than just developing and they've been in Hawaii for 23 years and the buses I've been I've procured have all been converted to hydrogen by US hybrid So we would expect them to be here and we're going to show off the US fuel cell Who else can we talk about? That's all it comes to mind right now, but yeah, I want to put in a plug-in for you Mike that we are looking for sponsors for the show and so the long arm was going to come out to some of the major players Surf code. We really like surf code to be be there and do some riding drives with their On the line, but I don't want to take all your thunder there Mike. So you go ahead and fill in the gaps Okay, so Because we're just getting started. We're going to be in writing letters. I can't really mention any specific names Well, you could mention Stan Osserman. I can Because Stan Osserman doesn't show up.   You know, he's going to be you know battery or fuel cell and he's saying that well eventually It's probably going to be the fuel cell and it's going to be the fuel cell because you know in Hawaii for example You have batteries, but you have to dispose of batteries.  So, you know and with with hydrogen, you know, the waste products are water is a waste product, right? so that's less of a problem and and so We hope to be able to talk about the advantages and disadvantages of the different opportunities there are in electric vehicles and Also the different kinds of ways we can use hydrogen. There's going to be a hydrogen cooking demonstration we're going to ask school children to Perform doing certain things hydrogen And how they maybe could envision hydrogen in their lives because basically we're talking about this is going to be their world This is going to be their world that we're trying to free of the burden of fossil fuels So how how can we help them? One thing you guys might consider is a program. I don't remember whether you were there Mitch You might have been that was done by the fire department a year or two ago at the fire station I guess it's a training facility near Pearl Harbor and They were showing What what happened? With the burning of hydrogen in the open air. They were showing that it was totally transparent And you had to have a certain device to tell When it was burning and I guess this was relevant to a fire that might be involving hydrogen gas And they were preparing themselves for that possibility But it was it was also an example of the properties of hydrogen what it's like how you store it How you move it how you how you deal with it in general? And I was really an eye-opener for me to see it, you know close up that way The other thing I wanted to ask you sorry Mitch go ahead Yeah, that was the first responders training. We put on that was several years ago Now about five or six years ago jet not two years ago I'm going quickly when you're having fun But yeah, we were able to train up 150 of our first responders here on the long view and on the big island And like you say it was really Also an outreach opportunity like you said show the properties of hydrogen and the really interesting thing was that the fireman was able to put his bare hand like this Now within three or four inches of the flame front of the hydrogen and not even get singed Because hydrogen has no carbon in it. So it doesn't it doesn't radiate any heat So that's one of the properties of hydrogen. The fact is it goes up 45 miles an hour or 90 or 60 feet per second Thousand and one that's already gone up 60 feet six story building So it just naturally wants to get away and actually it gave our firefighters our first responders a lot of confidence in being more comfortable with the whole idea of hydrogen and safety and That's very important to any kind of a hydrogen program I'd also like to do a quick little shout out while I have the floor here very briefly to call Pontio Planet research over the big island. He's built a little walk burner that operates on hydrogen brings out around the various places to demonstrate the fact that this flame, you know, doesn't radiate any heat and we hope that It doesn't radiate you know, it's plenty hot inside it But there's a lot of interest in using hydrogen as a cooking seal And so you have to be able to display that over here at the hydrogen festival and they don't have hydro burners and I go hot dogs So over to you Mike MJ Well, I'd be interested in seeing a electrolyzer at your festival I don't know if it's at a price or a scale where the average You know homeowner or citizen could buy one But I'd be interested in seeing one because it's it's a key to how you make hydrogen And maybe going forward you'll have to tell me but maybe going forward That would be useful to as to create the fuel in the event you need to create the fuel for your your hydrogen device like your car I know I know Henke Rogers has one But maybe there are others and maybe we could see one touch one turn one on see how it works That would be very useful to again appreciate the properties of hydrogen and how you create hydrogen and finally I wanted to ask you guys About the Mariah, you know a mission. I have talked about the Mariah. It's a it's a very attractive car I've seen it at the car show for a couple of years already Made by Toyota. It's it's actually beautiful.  I'm sorry, but the Mariah is beautiful In terms of the lines of it, you know the way it hangs together And for that matter the way it operates and I hope you have at least one maybe more than one there So people can see them. Also. I recall that I think you guys set it up Mitch it was at at the at the research facility you have or had at the Hawaiian Electric property on Ward Avenue you had a bunch of hydrogen cars to actually drive. Do you remember that? And could you set that up for the festival? Yeah, we we supported a project that actually Hawaii gas was the main instigator behind that whole provides the leadership to get that program going we had the 15 General Motor Equinox Steel-cell vehicles here in town That was the vehicle that you and I rode around in J and then had plenty of performance. I mean, you know You can actually burn rubber in those in those cars. They have such good torque and then pick up so yeah Those cars unfortunately have been returned to GM. I mean they were experimental and they've probably taken them all apart to analyze You know how well they they worked But there's always a chance to get other makers cars out here as well if we give them enough time to ship their vehicles out You know Hickam has a bus that they may be available, you know, that is certainly Maybe a as a static Display I have a bus that'll be eventually on the big island. I'm not sure that I can ship it back to Honolulu and then back to the big island But we can certainly have a video of all that kind of stuff and demonstrate it to show it to people Yeah, that's a great idea Yeah, the other thing I wanted to ask before we before we close to see if you guys could help us with this So right now in the mind of the public, you know, the electric car per se rather than the hydrogen car has been You know, it's been talked about and advertised and what have you and there are what? 7500 of them running around so the high in many ways the hydrogen car is more attractive and I wonder if one or both of you could just answer this question for me How do I make my mind up assuming that both on the market assuming my ride takes off? What considerations would I entertain to make my choice between an electric car and a hydrogen car? I think one of the things with Hydrogen car is that you can just you know takes three minutes to Refuel it, right? I mean just isn't that right Mitch five to ten minutes Actually the whole the whole objective of a car company is just to make the experience of Owning a hydrogen car the same as your existing car So you don't have to change anything in the way you do business So electric cars you still have to plug them in You know unplug them coil the cable and put it up. I know that sounds like totally insignificant but here, you know we You know the general public I mean they just don't want quote any kind of a hassle factor Yeah, it's like the more you can make it exactly of what they're used to the better it is and You know the more accepting they may be of this technology. There's certainly a place for us a straight battery electric Vehicle I'm not knocking them at all. In fact, you know in the hydrogen vehicle We have batteries like you know for to absorb a regenerator for a king You know when you break instead of using your brakes you use the generator You use a motor as a generator and so you can recover quite a lot of that energy Just like you do in a battery electric vehicle now. So yeah You know it'll come down to price and and and how easy is it to get fueled and all these other kinds of considerations Certainly a guy who has a battery electric vehicle and has great loose pop solar that you can charge at his house Well, you know, there's a certain there's a certain Advantage in being able to charge your own car up with the loose pop solar and you don't have to pay anything extra So that's that's a good thing and that's that's tough to overcome. So one of the interesting things What are you gonna say something? That was that was brought up at lunch was So Batteries make use of cobalt cobalt comes from It's very expensive comes from the Congo. There's lots of lots of politics with cobalt That's right. So it's it's expensive and and you know and then just as we talked about disposals and SU but you know hydrogen cars use lithium and lithium comes you can get from seawater and You know one of the things that we've always wanted to do was was to try to make electricity, you know from the ocean, you know and One of the byproducts of that would be lithium so You know the lithium will provides all kinds of opportunities Let me ask one more question. It's related Before we close and that it's about buses, you know We know for example that the Department of Transportation Services in Hawaii in Honolulu is Testing these two-section buses their electric buses and they cost three quarters of a million dollars a piece You know and they may have to make it They will have to make a choice at the end of the test period as to what they do whether they actually buy these buses and Deploy them or not But it seems to me not only through you Mitch, but through Stan Osserman that that hydrogen is a better bet for buses Hydrogen's been you hydrogen buses have been used on the military bases and in Various places in the state for the past few years and they work well and my sense of it And I like you to agree or disagree. I think I know your answer Seems to me that hydrogen is a better fit for buses in general, and that's where we should that's one place anyway Maybe the primary place that we should focus our efforts on deploying hydrogen for transportation thoughts Answers remarks agreements disagreements by I'll let Mitch address that he's the buses. I Totally agree with that. I mean the Major barrier speed buff we have now is hydrogen infrastructure like where do I feel and with the bus first of all You're looking at fueling a fleet So you only have to build like one hydrogen station for a bus fleet. Of course, it's going to be a big one In California, they allow early adopters of light vehicles like the Mirai to they put up dispenser outside the gate So it allows the early adopters To come in and feel their vehicles and then set up a program to do that Also, you know at this stage of the game we rely on government money and public funding from the taxpayers and by Operating the buses in addition to all the other advantages allows the general public to actually experience The bus anybody can get on the hydrogen bus and experience what it's like and at the same time You're doing public outreach and they're going to say wow This is really quiet and what happened all those diesel fumes I don't have to breathe and the other one thing I want to get plugged in here Is that we fit it out our bus for the big island County bus with a export power unit? Basically, we can export 110 220 volt AC power for when you have a civil defense Emergency like a tsunami or a hurricane knocks down all your power You can use your bus and as a mobile Generator to go around and plug in critical any critical load that you have you want to keep powered up And so if you have a whole fleet of buses like example, let's just assume the County City and County Honolulu like those a hundred percent hydrogen fuel cell buses you have like five hundred and sixty five mobile Power packs that can be dispensed or dispersed anywhere to provide You know power and then when you want to you know make quite about 30 hours of power at full power and then when you want to recharge it all you do is you bring it back to the station and It takes like 15 to 20 minutes to refuel it with hydrogen and you get for another 30 hours or more So that's something that we totally have not looked at closely But the bus on a big island that we're just getting ready to deploy now will be a beautiful example And a demonstration of that capability and we'll help justify that cost differential between the existing diesel buses and an electric bus or a hydrogen bus and Perhaps from a different budget to offset the cost of your bus so you get down to parody and you can make the business Value proposition of why should I be buying these buses? So those are some of the thoughts I have on buses on the big fan of buses I didn't know that like you wanted to add something No, it's just that you know what what Mitch is doing is so important because you know They the longest journey begins with a single step and and so this is the way we know We're stepping away from fossil fuels. We're stepping forward in another direction And and and so I just think when we talk about you know on the one hand, which is more efficient the diesel powered or the Hydrogen where the other thing is well, we want our future We want a future for young people want a future for the world And so what is what is the price you put on that future? The longest journey begins with clean energy. That's the point Thank You Mike Markridge. Thank you Mitch Ewing Great to have you great to have this discussion. Good luck on the festival I hope we have more about it from you between then and now great. Thank you. Aloha. Aloha, Mitch


What's up everybody and welcome to season one episode three of Falcons in Focus. I'm Scott Baird. That's Tori McElaney You all know who this guy is. He's Richie Frickin Grant. How you everybody doing? Safety for the Atlanta Falcons Central Florida alum and Richie we're gonna start With a pretty serious Tori and I are season journalists So we're gonna start with a hard-hitting question right here that we want to know about your mouthpiece Right because sometimes it's normal. Sometimes it's normal Sometimes it looks like a junkyard dog. Sometimes it has like a grill on it. Sometimes it has like maybe It all kinds of stuff. Give us the origin story of where the mouthpiece comes from What's his guy name man? It was a quarterback I had in a at UCF I think his name was cruise chick something like that But he had these wristbands like a huge bag of And I ain't no I mean not the wristbands, but the uh the mouthpiece a huge bag of them. I didn't know uh Like who they were from or anything like that, but I seen all the designs on them like I'm finna spice it up this year I said give me two of those man. So he threw me two of them. Um He threw me a white one in like a pink one. I never wore the pink one But the white one is one I still wear to this day not the same mouthpiece Same design same design. So the same design So it's like a little white mouthpiece with skull teeth on there. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's my favorite one It was this picture zoomed up on you like really close and I was like I would not want to run it that day Funny story about that dude my coach and college met my db coach So one day, you know, you know practice is going kind of bad or whatever whatever and uh We watching a film We're watching a film at the practice And he was like, why are you smiling? Like because I'm not smiling. I was I was mad like you like, you know, we're not we're not performing He was like, I see you right there. You smile. I was like, because that's my mouthpiece, man Like put your glasses on man Mouthpiece or whatever but but yeah, that's a funny little story about that mouthpiece though Yeah, no, we love because we were when we were prepping for this podcast We were like, what can we add? What can we start the podcast off with and we both were like immediately saw those pictures with some pictures and we're like No, those are those are fire the gold one is new though I just got that one last season because I lost my white one They got me in love on but the gold was nice though. Yeah It really pops. Yeah, it looks good. Yeah, okay So next question talking about the whole swag that of which I feel like this secondary has I really think it's this group is very fun to watch. I really like watching and to like interacting with one another I like watching you and hawk and de-haul like just Hang around each other. What's y'all's relationship like and and it seems crazy from the outside looking Yeah, I was about to say I don't know how to describe it to you. You know, it's just a lot of hugging a lot of dancing A lot of you know, um ish talking Who's the best dancer? Who's the best dancer? The best dancer?  Yeah, but you you gotta be good. Yeah, you gotta be good You know, that's not my lane, but I watch them boys. Do they look I like that you said both of them so when those guys listen to the podcast you haven't sided with one and pissed off the other All right, let's let's we're gonna move on because I there's okay I've been wanting to ask you this question for a very very long time because I was actually on your When you were drafted it was The night you were drafted and it was your press conference after you were drafted and for those that don't know Yeah, it was very emotional But what people don't know is that like when you were drafted like covet protocols were like pretty intense Like we couldn't really like do a lot But so everything was over zoom But it was so funny because I believe it was like one of our comms people kept coming up and saying like We're trying to get rich you but like everybody's really excited He has a ton of people and then in that press conference I remember hearing people like in the background just like Like here you are like in the corner just like trying to process this and everybody is just like loud and excited What was that night like with your family and and friends because it seems like it was so much fun. It was like You know that um that one video when uh Kevin Garnett was like we're going to disney world That's the excitement I had man like I had like 40 people in that house with me Like 40 people all family members some friends um someone like grew up with but um man like So I got the call I'm on the phone call everybody's quiet whatever. I'm talking to coach. I'm talking to um t. I'm talking. I'm just talking to everybody um hang up The moment was just like Like out of body experience. You know what I mean? Like I'm really here right now Like I just got on the phone with the focus like that's real.   Everybody I love was around me.  I love that I mean that that's kind of how you hope that it is right everybody who you have proved right Right, they all thought you were going to be an nfl player an nfl star and then bang the phone call comes Um crazy The lone real football question in this whole thing. Yeah, this is really it Is is this is that you go back through the pre-draft process And you you cannot type in richie grant into a google search without the senior bowl coming up You just can't do it And it was like senior bowl star like the like the week just sent him like a rocket ship So it came up so much that I cannot ask you about that week and what that week I don't know what your mindset was going into it, but what came out of it Was pretty awesome. So give me a a thought about what you were going Through mentally going into that thing. Does it turned out so well for you? Um, honestly, man Just a bunch of question marks like in terms of what is spit on that week But I'm so grateful for that invite because that like I was I was already on the way but that changed the whole course of my draft process Like that senior bowl like I mean, yeah, my name was out there You know people was talking I was getting phone calls, but That senior bowl week was like probably one of the most important weeks I had in the whole draft process going into it not knowing what to spit But talking my teammate and robison uh with a giant shot at him, but talking to him. We just like man like Supposed to be the best of the best. So let's just go out here and you know and do what we do We had faith in our abilities But the weird thing was We were training for the combine at the time So, you know body was like my body was sore. Yeah, we were right in the beginning of training for the combine So you putting all these new lifts on and all this new running conditioning like nothing had to go perform You know from all these guys and teens, you know, I'm saying I play the best of the best. Yeah, body feeling like this Whatever, let's go. You know what I mean? Like whatever ain't got time for that. No excuses. So Showed out that week, you know shaking everybody here. I'm like, okay First night. I'm like, I'm gonna go out here.  I'm like, okay. I see who here. All right, da da da And then first practice man, you know, I said my prayer and I just I just wanted to have fun and competing And I think I think I did exactly that and every single day They don't fold it that way. So it was crazy because it was like The name Richie Grant before The senior bowl very different than the name Richie Grant after the senior bowl and I thought that was very fascinating Because not a lot of people can say like that one week really kind of changed the trajectory But for you, it kind of was that it definitely gave me a little boost Like it gave me a boost and I noticed it, you know, I mean, but try to stay humble and just keep working Yeah, one of my favorite quotes that you've ever said and we talked to you quite often But one of your favorite ones it was when I believe it was when we were talking to you Probably early training camp last year And you said and I have it or have it written down He said I've always been a guy who bit off more than I can chew. I learned Yeah, I learned at an early age. You can't grow unless you're put in uncomfortable spots to get better I feel like that is a very specific quote and I need to know like what situation You went through that you felt like this is way more than I can chew and I've got to be uncomfortable I gotta push forward, you know what man? I think It's just that uh That competitiveness in me. Maybe like, um, you know, I had all these I had all my cousins We all lived in the same house growing up and you know, you're gonna you're gonna compete, you know playing tackle football on our knees all types of You know, I always wanted we playing as teams, but I always wanted to be On my own team because I know I depend on myself I say, you know what all y'all get on that side I'm gonna get on this side and I'm gonna try to score the touchdown So I ain't been in a whole new game, you know, so this started at at an early age in terms of like Uncontrollable positions because I just wanted to win like how far can I push myself? You know, I mean that's and it was so innocent back then but now it's like it's actually, you know, it's a purpose behind it but Still do I had to learn like, okay, you can push yourself, but it's a limit.  You have an uncle Terry that wasn't half bad at the University of Alabama Got a little freshman record over there for touchdowns. Yeah As a kid growing up with somebody like that and of course he went to Bama, but I think I he was mr. Mississippi couple of times, right Right, so we're talking about an athlete at the sport that you want to play like What was it like to have that? I don't know example role model even when he was in high school I would assume right were you out watching his games in high school? Well, I watched his film to three four five in the morning every night like as a kid All I want to do is watch his how like he used to be so mad like you want to watch him again? I'm like put him in I want to watch him again But he played a way bigger role than just that football part, you know, I mean like My uncle was like the dad, you know, I mean all these cousins and my siblings I talk about We all in that one trailer or whatever. He was like the dad to all of us. So Just I just wanted to to Get to a level he did, you know growing up even shooting stars coming across coming across the sky.  I want to be like a proud father figure I mean just a role model and and that's what he was for me. So I didn't want to disappoint him So every summer we went up there when he was at Bama me my cousin Lizzie Mississippi and my little brother we went to we went to Bama stayed with him for like two months And we would like work out every day, you know, you're pushing up. We look kid. You know, I mean Yeah, how old were y'all because it wasn't that like it was like 2006 like 2009 You probably like six to nine years old, right? I had to be at least like eight. Yeah Yeah, something like that, but it was it was instilled in me so early because I'm like man This dude was so successful and like everybody love him.  So he he's just a respectful guy and he worked hard. I'm like, I can do that You know, I mean, I can do what he's doing. So that's that's where it started in those building blocks You know, it just created who I am day I love that because one of the things that when we were researching for this podcast I came across a quote that said, you know, you were talking about Terry and you were like He's someone who kept me out of trouble and he's I can't remember exactly what you said But you were like, he's the highest character man that I had to look up to I mean, I think that's that's such a compliment to someone to hear that.  Say that question one more time. Yeah.  So that's what I was going So seeing him like at that early age, you know, you in the room with like let's say Michael Jackson or somebody walked in here That's Michael. Like I can't believe I'm in the presence of Michael. You know what I mean? Like you want to That's how I felt my uncle like That's my uncle like really like I get to claim him stuff like that But you know, as I got older it turned to more like what's up, like you doing that? But he still plays that father role, you know that father figure and I lean on him so much You know for advice because he been down this road, you know football in and just being um Somebody that everybody looks up to right, you know a role model and he been in this road So so long and he was the first one to do it with no help So I'm like man, like you're so strong and where you getting all that from So now I'm just picking his brain and I've been doing that for years and it's been helping me Obviously, you know, I got to a good point in my life. Uh, obviously I want to go further But now it kind of the rose kind of reverse So he didn't get to go to the end of the field. He played in the CFL for two years So now he's watching my journey, you know, I mean, he's he's seeing all these things He's asking me questions and he want to be involved in every part and I'm like man Like look how life worked, you know, I mean like it's like full circle He brought me here and now I get to bring him along, you know, I mean I love it. I love it. So like when you when you went to see him when he was at Bama Do you have any stories from like when like anybody you met while you were there? I mean I feel because those teams because those teams were loaded. Yeah So many first rounders so many all the first rounders And I can't tell all the stories We just been locking room man. I didn't met Karine Jackson Julio jump I met Julio. He was a freshman. Oh, really? Yeah, he was teaching me and my little brother how to play the It was the 40 yard dash on the PlayStation way back then He was teaching us how to do that. I met Julio, Mark Terrence Cody. I don't even know if you remember Terrence Cody big dude. Yeah Just say I didn't met everybody 2006 to 2010 I didn't I don't know if they remember me, but I remember them. I'm sure if you ever come across them On the other side of the line of script is you'll be like, hey Did Julio remember you? I don't know if see see right before I got here Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. There's a chance to meet him, but um, but in Tampa, maybe you can Hey, man, we're talking to the 40 yard dash You know, you know between the line, you know, yeah After the game, you know, we're talking but between the line probably ain't gonna be too much talking But again, you go so as we're kind of wrapping this thing up I I got to ask you about something that's not on your wrist right now And that's because there was a press conference last year Where you told us a cool story about you you wore two wristbands for like, I don't know ever since like your software You're in college, right? If I got it, right? It was It was above the line That's more and always compete always always compete. There we go. And you had a third one that you gave to your sister I remember that too. Yeah. Yeah, so Finally took them off that I took them off after all those years like five months ago Finally took them off man Took me a long time But like were they nice reminders like while they were there just you know, because in in college They were kind of slogans of right of yours, right? Yeah, so, uh, Coach Shannon man love coach Shannon. Uh, he coached coach me at UCF for two years Um, him and his staff they just had this idea, you know, like let's reward guys for doing what they're supposed to be doing Like, um or going to extra, you know going above and it kind of kept people in line You know, we young we want to reward system, you know, I mean, so Uh, it started with t-shirts and it was with the gpa. So the gpa had to be above a certain thing Or if you had a high gpa in your position group, you'll get rewarded and then it went to on the field. So now is, um finishing the play, you know, not loafing or or Making it to class on time, you know, you don't have any late or uh, Unusuals and stuff is all those types of things and and then Uh, the second year he came out with some some cool. I'm like a buddha line always compete. I'm like, you know what? I just write little stuff in my wristband and pee we yeah, just help me remember. Okay. Go hard Don't walk, you know, I mean just stuff like that all type of stuff. So so a buddha line always compete I'm like that's that's what you need to do in football You know being a buddha line and the people who don't understand being a buddha line just means like, um If the whole team Is finishing a drill and then you got like two guys who loafing in the back or they don't finish through the line Right. Okay. Everybody's a buddha line, but those two guys are not we trying to get everybody on this side of the line You know, I mean if everybody's on this side of the line, then we're going the right way You know, I mean so we can trust everybody do what they supposed to do And that you know, those wristbands was a simple reminder that you know, I mean it's just I guess the leader in me like, hey, you know wristband. Hey y'all y'all get right now It's like checking yourself. Yeah, it was just keeping me accountable to So to wrap up the podcast unfortunately, we have to wrap up We can keep going for like an hour But so we at the end of every episode we play a game. It's like a rapid fire type of game. Um, we We ask the same questions for everybody. However, we have one question in here. That's just specifically for you Because we heard that you're really big into karaoke. Oh, man. Don't do that to me You don't have to say don't worry. We would never do that. But well, we might we might but not right now We want you to come back. Yeah, don't do it to me. I mean yelling calls No, no, no, you're good. So Just so you know, there is a question about karaoke come right, but the first question is a simple one What is your favorite play ever in your career? Oh, man I feel like sometimes that's really hard because there are so many yeah, so if we go as a falcon as a knight It's up to you. All right. Let me let me go ahead and then be specific. Okay as a knight My very first turnover in college, um It was kind of to seal the game, you know, it was playing our rival usl They were driving down. I got a force fumble. That's my very first turnover I had one entire year on like being a red shirt. So, you know, I'm making plays in practice I'm like this college like how I'm gonna play the game And I got that turn. Oh, I was like, I can do this Right. We can do it. I can do it. What was the last movie that you saw? Even if it's embarrassing, you still gotta say it. No, I'll be truthful The last movie I watched I think it was gray man Yeah, I think it was gray man, uh, that new movie that came out. I just wanted to check it out. I like it pretty All right action. I like thrillers. Yeah, I'm really big into the mcu like marvel I'm with you This is the this is the question you what is your go-to karaoke song the one that you could get up and do without thinking Mario, let me love you That's a classic I actually did that one time At a karaoke night that was my first time I was in front of all these strangers.  They were like, man. Just go up there, man You know your little boy, so I'm like, I don't go up there I went up there. I killed that jump I often start doing this every weekend. I honestly brought the house down. Man, I killed that. It was like a new talent Is that what you're saying for we so the thing is it's like that rookies have to when they come in Oh, the rookie show. Yeah. Is that what you're saying for them? I swing. I sang uh, um Sweet thing by uh, thanks shotgun. Okay. All right. Wow. I'm an old soul I was gonna say that was before you were born We just turned the jams on every Sunday and cleaned up the house Hey, that that's like a thing you woke up in the morning.  Yeah, it's time to clean up. Uh, which foul can you spend the most time with? Hmm the most time At this point it might be e-hares, you know, since since we've been in yeah since we've been back in the building, uh Might be e-hares uh With my boy Mike a lot Mike Ford The hall You know what? I can't even tell you Um, last one, what is your biggest pet peeve? Oh biggest pet peeve. I'm like, you know, I'm a chill guy And I don't I don't like to let other people affect my mood, but That was a that was a very strong very strong. I do got a couple I got a couple now. This is the one that I feel like everybody always kind of like has to really think about right, you know what? I don't like selfish drivers.  So the fact that you said this, I feel validated in my anger. So thank you No, we we did get on that. We did get on that. Thank god. And we bonded on episode three Richie Grant. Thank you so much. Thank you, sir Great review subscribe all that fun stuff we're gonna come back to you. I don't know if you're gonna be able to top Richie That's gonna be tough Falcons teammates you're on notice that was a good one You know, I come with it


And threads by the way. I don't know why a lot of people are not using threads as much. Is it because of that interactive part, but please tell us, are you using Xs and threads as well? I'm not really a poet there, but you'll never find out what happened. Please tell me on that hashtag, which is why, and fears and anxiety. So kiyoko mtaani kwa boi chal. If it were to come again, if it were to come again, it was in Aqua Stress, kama boi chal palimtaani. And I remember last week we had a part one of this conversation and today we're here to actually get into part two and get a comprehensive understanding of what exactly happens in the minds and in the lives of men. In other words, boi chal, okay? Tell us, what makes you afraid? And by the way, we posted that question on our social media as well. If it were to come again, if it were to come again, if it were to come again, kama boi chal palimtaani. And definitely it will be sampling some of your feedback or part of your feedback towards the tail end of the show. Keep on interacting with us on that hashtag, which is why in the morning. But absolutely perfect to be joined by two powerful gentlemen. That is Ravasko Germani. He's going to tell us what he does as well. And then next to him is Edwin. He was here last week. Then he's also back today, Karibuni san.  Just tell us a little bit about you and what you do at Zetech. I'm Ravasko. I'm from Germany. I'm studying at Zetech University. I'm pursuing Bachelor of Media. Bachelor of Media. I'm studying at Kujapa. I'm a host and a name. Alright. I'm 2.2 years old. It's meaning you're like some two years after that. And then you finish. Like one year because you're bad at not trying the same. You're an SSP, self-sponsored student. It's a nice fantastic Karibu sana. Edwin, you were here last week. I'm back home again. Thank you very much. My name is Edwin Nyango. Right. I'm from Zetech University. I'm doing Bachelor of Arts and Journalism. 2.1. Right. I'm a photographer by the way. You also do photography. I do photography. I take photos at least in Nama. I've seen it. I've seen it before. I've seen it before. I've seen it before. I've seen it before. I've seen it before. I've seen it before. I'm also the CEO of EdwTV. Edw Brand. Right. Which is like your show that you have on YouTube. Yeah. Nice. So, since we mentioned the story of Kwanama campus, what are some of the things that stress you with your Shilani as a boy child? Okay. Thank you very much. When I was in Kwanama, I was asked that question for 70 pesos. When I came to ask myself, before that issue of money comes in, there must be something that triggers that issue of money. Now, I think my responsibility will still stick with this responsibility due to a later issue of money. Because if I don't have that responsibility, then issue of money will not stress me again. I was asked, what is the issue of money when I'm stressed? I love the issue of money of air. I just say my size. I just say my foot could be on there by the way. And I say my person when I'm stressed. But before that issue of money comes in, there must be something that must have triggered that issue of money. Which is the responsibility. So I think my responsibility and my expectation will not stress me again. Because every time I wake up in the morning, when I have a bigger picture, at the end of the day, I will ask myself, what is the issue of money? I will ask myself, what is the issue of target expectation? I will ask myself, what is the issue of expectation? Then I plan where it will be saved and it will be saved. So I will ask myself, what is the issue of money? There is just something about men and finances, and one of the experts is saying, in the amount, your biggest asset is your wallet. When you run low on your wallet your self-esteem is also low. I think there is one who said, come on person when it comes to money, you see data, channel stories, I don't know what that means to you, but let me hear from Ravasko first and then I'll come back to you. Is it true, kama una pesa na weini boi chia da chana na stories a kudete kabsa?  So ina kwa ni ngumu, maybe uta kwa kwa hii relationship, but sasa easy issues a kwa cheating na ni nini yu na kuja sana na apu. And then the issue of responsibility kama wini al kwa na sema edwin. Ndu kwa na kuja po finance and responsibility because as a man kwa hii as in society ina to reflect as a man is the head of the family that is a fact. So ukwa kuna pesa iso responsibilities a kwa, zene yuku zi solve it a kwa ngumu as a man. So na kwa, most of the time ukwa see stress, ina pata je pesa kwa solve this thing, this maybe you know na. Like to say me wei pesa sana yu ukwa na family, ukwa na metoto na taka ina shule. Right, so at that time finance, the finance thing. But let me also maybe get to know you a little bit. What are some of the things that scare you as a man? Because we are dealing with man's fears and anxieties. So we together is na kwa kwa pesa to generally in life. First ni ile kwa incompetent, like unata kupewa a task, but then you don't believe yourself that I can accomplish this task. So umto na ona, you can do it, but you as a person, you don't think that you can do it. Is that not self doubt? Like something like that. So it gives you stress in what sphere specifically to say me have you ever had like an experience or shape of a project and you're like hey miss you when you can't but then you have to fight through it until but they say fake it till we make it. They say for as many how to fake it till we make it. Ya like um that was a day after nima maliza form 4. So kulikwana ishwea mentorship kwa village then mwenyal kwa nasmami ile mentorship, akani ita then akasema I will have to lead that mentorship. So it was like I think I can't do it. Because maliza form 4 and you have to perform. So you can lead these others because when you are one in the form 4 in high school students maybe you are a primer. Ya so akani ampia you can lead this. So I was like I don't think I can do it. So you believe in yourself. Ya something like that. But now you believe in yourself. Now there is a moment. Ya ya especially in the field that you know in media if you must be very confident always. Ya your confidence is. Ya absolutely absolutely agree with you. What about you Edwin what was your scariest and most fearful moment? Akasema wah, this one help me Lord you know jesus take the wheel. In fact take the whole car don't just take the wheel. Take the whole car drive it, drive it for me. Jeremon can be a witness to this. Me me ni ulemu tu. I will not say no. I will not say no at the one I am doing. If I ever have to be a no. Dasema yes. Ya na jua. Me ni any decision is to you. And so you know you can. Ya and every time one will be like bro ikiruna weza just trust me. So me me I think failing in life ni kia kata geti ango. Me na jua. Keshu ni kumuka ni tenda ni nifanya evi. Nenda jua aita fail. So ni fia ni what if sasa ni nifanya lafi fail. Ina waka ni ni angu sana wa ina nifanya nawari sana stressana. Mbona ni me fail because me me na jua na weza. Me na jua na weza. But now why does it have to fail. Mbona ni fail. Ya ni me me na 8 kwana viduzangu ziki fail in short. Ya. And they say for you to be successful we must fail. Failure is the product of success. Failure is part of it. But we don't want. Atakama failure ni part of it. Lakin na itu itabiko maisha. Failure. Mbona ni fail. Saza. Failure. Umae fail mbelewa atu adi. You fail terribly. Utaki kwenekana mtu yote. Una takatu jufiche. But una nandepi isi kuna levels of failure. Kuna msia kiko humiliated mbelewa madem. Ina una. You fail. That is failure. Another good example ni umenda shop koomba unga. Kozana pesa.  Of course other kuna madem wa poimu. Of course many fail. We buy asana. So there are so many experiences ni zina zina zada define failure. Depending on the individual experience. So maybe you can give us the niti grittis that you are understanding. How do you understand failure? We learn understand failure ni. Msi mimi kama. Okay, first of all itu na fanyanga isi mambuna. Film peer as far of it. Film. So if you time kuna time kuna kwa nandanga, kuna shoot. Then unapatu kika changes are now working on this. Unapataka kuna bitumob ule. Yana bitumob asia kwa fi luli plania. Adi uli promise everybody that on maybe to say on MCM on Monday. We will be releasing this. Then on that day that thing i pute. Aiko. Kilimbula sana kuna uja masia lupambia. Lek sasa wana kuna tu uja weizi. Wana, kila time wana to promise every time kitu iizekani. So wana kuna tu asa failure, wana get. So that thing, every time ni kia open ni for wha ina stress sana. Mi na jwa na weizi, then why does it have to fail now? Ni lupomisa watu lazima nifanya iiki. Then that day reach. Si jia ifanya vile ni lupambia. That thing will be extremely out to below. MCM iko wana sema bansakwa ni wule presentum daily. Afu ni nge kwa skinu wata wana. Uu sasani ni ni ni. Wana watu wana, ni ni. Lek za ina kufanya wana stress. Hopefully you guys don't get that vibe. That's a my theory. Apu patangi o vibe, but to me ni mse weakling. That's a my theory. So that situation. That situation. Onapada kwa asa wana wana say wana fanya iubo. Uru di kwa nyumbu onapada kwa ina kwa stress sana. Mi mne ni nil doa kwa nyumbu kani iiwa, ena kwa uwa. Afu sasa wana. Why have I resurrected it instead of killing it? But you know also you can feel like you failed at the task. But kumbe you nailed it.  But where deep down, wana doubt wana sema? No, maybe I should have done it differently. Ano jia feedback sasa ni doa kwa mbe akamu uli fail, lama uku fail. Feedback ni doa. Interact na awo. Ani mne bana bultu mbe iiwa iiwina jia kwa iiwimbona. Iiwa kwa iiwina uli sema iiwina iiwina jia kwa. Sasa na sema oh. Kumbu wana iiwa fortili akumakini, then I didn't deliver it to the expectation. So you kidu every time ii kuidi kwa nyumbu ina kwa stress sana skia. I didn't deliver. But I'm also interested in all stories. I spoke to someone on my Instagram, actually in the text. I'll go through her face in life and I'll start to feel a sense of self-doubt. Nimi sewa kupenda ma'a picture iiwini aka kujaka archive photos, zakezote boom na ma'a video. Nimi sewa kwa na life. So tu rukot na haviu conversation. Bona uli fikatua plus. Adimentally you're feeling like you have to archive all your photos and videos. Aka sema he was feeling insecure. And that really sends a big message to me. Men too, feeling secure about their looks. I don't know about you. Have you ever felt that you're not as good looking as maybe any other person on social media? Some other people you know, they get a lot of attention from women.  Wada kama kuna pesa hauna looks nini. But squeeze the people on account hana sura, hana pesa, hana sauti, hana height, hana rangi. They want everything. So how do you put yourself together to a place where you have all this package that the world wants out of them? Maybe Ravasko. Have you ever felt insecure about how you look? I think that is the issue of ideal body image. Now, as for me, I think I accept it myself the way I am. So, celebrities of course wako uko. Ile ishwi aku. The moment unanda kujifana nisha, na celebrity. Especially celebrities. I want to be like msuiflani. Yon na mimi, yon na kanini. So, apuna kwauna fail. But kwa mimi as a man, no. You've never struggled in such a situation. Maybe I'm too dark, I don't have a good face and I don't have a good voice. No, no, no. I accept myself the way I am. No, you are. Nice. And that's a powerful thing actually to do. Edu shei strago na story za look. It actually means a lot especially if you're a person who comes on camera. Your looks matter, your voice matters, your presentation matters a lot and people actually feed on that. So, you always have to look a certain way. So, I don't know if you've ever had such an experience. There's no more kimi ni hampeni amara mingi kitama but nowadays as a person niku preishi. As a person, I think nili wa simu. Nisenda nisenda ni surf internet tv. Ni hende facebook ni ni. Kwanza facebook wuku shiago inakaha. It's a big thing. So that time I think ni hampeni amara mingi kwaanku. So how did you fight through the insecurity part? At first ono yu kijeka life ya celeb stress, stress inakwa kwaanku. So how did you fight through the insecurity part? Stress, stress inakwa. So, ilifika to our point mi nili je lewa nili. Kila mtu akuna destiny ya ke. Mi sisi kwa kwa shuia aya brands ya kwa. Sisi, atuizi yenda patmoja we goda li kweke destiny ya hako mi ni kuna yango. Kamau li kukua hefo, kukua that level kujifuna nani as in ku change face ya hako kunini hindi na kufraisha. Then that's not my path again. Mimi. Ala wupia nili, nili pataka kuna wase, sikuwa na dania tana waneza ni kubali ni. Fileniko. Why did you feel like they wouldn't accept you for who you are? Was there anything awful? Kuna yu giri ni, kupi apreshi, pii ina wanga ni ni, sizambu genyu kuna heo. Kuna nalai kukua level hindi ni kukushinda. Right. Kuna wase tia na apu wami ni hafo umeva wiki zingini na duna shangaha ya maimi. Ako shago kwa. Kwanza niwele uno yu kukusha gusunapu umbawu hindi niwa kwa su na niwa. Afu na nama loma ni. Kama cha pakantu akuna dreadi. Mi na fit ku ima kubi kwenji. Okuna precesi za meno. Hemi niwa tu isi apod kulegeti. Hemi niwa tu isi apod kulegeti. Ile kuwafi gumu until now I changed my path nili sema Actually, Ile fika sato sema ni kwa fom fom. Sorry. Ni kwa fom fom, that's when I changed my path now. Nili sema, mimi na nda iwi na niwukuna na nda stakini nda. Kama ini destiny anko kufuata injiya then follow it to kutana embele kama destiny where kibisindio destination where to fufundio destination to fikiya uko. Sizi woda tu ta pitanjiya moja kufikiya iyo destiny to sendiya. That's when now Ile fika sema Actually, I eliminated those friends kansu kwishi me shiangu niwa na nasa ni kwa in peace by doing Peace of mind, but therefore it's very important. So, when I eliminated those friends kakutana mwara fikiwa niwa kulebu yangu sasa kilatem tu nongiya vitu niya Iko kwa sako eitu Actually, that's how I came out of it. Skwizi mimi niko tu evil And you are happy. Fresh, kila ni kengiwa maalipo pote ni oniwa tu wako eivi I don't have to mind that. I mean, ini level ya hangu Ini level ya hako Pia misi kuita fika ni fikiya your level. What about waschanawa kuna waschanawa kwa very harsh staki mtu ana fana na evi staki mausi hevi staki ana viat hwiyu hananga viatu hako tu na nix moja hwiyu ana nukajashu hako kengi kolon hwiyu menozakizi koevi also in media as well people just look at you and you have to put up with it. So, how did you survive it your experience? Okay, the issue about ladies and relationship Of course We shared it We shared it Where was he? I don't know how it was but he gave me feedback but they may have true story I have one of my boys who was a broken-hearted and demflani and the boys came back to the gym and they took him to the gym Yes, so they said he was a bodybuilder and they said he was a black American who showcased just because of a comment from this chick I can imagine how he was affected lentily So I think boy child kukataliwa I don't know Is it a common thing kukataliwa but does it give you stress for you it doesn't give you stress but how was your experience?  I will go to level oh we are not on the same level oh my goodness I will go to China and I will go to Tantua and I will go to social media maybe she is going through a bad day but I will go to China and I will go to China but at that time I was in Form 4 and you were a baby so I was in Form 4 so they took me to their deck so I went to the isolation room and I came to Tantua in Pua? yeah so of course it is a kumakiasi but then you have to accept then you move on because anything in your life whether it is positive or negative you have to accept first the situation so you accepted the rejection and then you move on I do not want to reject you because you have stress I do not want to reject you first of all first of all first of all when you are on campus you can date but I don't know do you guys encourage university students to date? university students for that but anyways you are in the public space and you are 18 so you are free too do what you want to do so how was your first experience when you approached them campers? kwanzaa li kwa crash na most crashes you say man knows li kwa kubad so there was this lady to mingia campers actually the first lady to reject the first lady to reject kumakiasi so to kwa kwanzaa kung gaa kwanzaa kung gaa envianuti na k كa si mapehenzi the first lady to invent so I knew whatдắt are people who seek marriage there was this person with which private sources he couldn't remember he didn't have money So, tulia green, tupatanetao maula fly ni tuhunga. So, alifika mbele hangu, besef kufika, kuna maile alesi mama, so ni kenda na muona, so kuna maile alesi mama, then that place, kumona na jamaflaen, kwa kwa kisei mijada, na jyosiku mabiyotu nenda ku discuss ni, kumadeti. Afuni kumona na dewa kisei mijada, so ni kumuza, who is that? Kana bewo ni boyfriend waki. Adangu bia kongesa sa next, kuna, na nembia tuha pokomba. Na jyua, ni what you are coming to tell me, ni liya na the first day we met na iezekani, mi ni kuna umutu, iezekani, mi ni kuna umutu. So, lo li kwa mbia? Ya, apu apu. Li kwa ni kuba, deni kuru li yata nyubani, kule odi. Kaime melt. Kokomens kuna umutu na sema hashtagwa in the morning na sema kukosangu wuza kume upe manume stress. Wa, wa, wa. Is it true, we agree? We agree, does it give you stress? We buy. Okay, you'll tell me more, you'll tell me more when I come to you in just a bit. DJ Izakana sema Timbikto, Kabraska, Kamega, Kwanthi, Daniel Shaw, shout out to you. Jaki Brizna na sema witu po, manume stress ni akiwana demhana pesa. Afuval mambo ni ispa mi alot kutia, Stefna Brand, thank you. I think we had that light, if that is some point. So, ah, we wanna sema ukiwana demhana pesa. See, you can demhana pesa mani cheli. Either way, but I think both factors contribute. Good morning, watching from Mwanda, Bungama County, shout out to you. Russ Vinyana sema utabuhora masibu Teresab County, Loktin, my lovely wife. Oh, good for you, with your lovely wife as well. Kala mivala me shout out to you, I'm trying to look for a new comment that says something. Okay, guys, I'm, okay. So, you keep your feedback coming, but we wanna sema kukosa ngubuza. Anyways, how does that affect you? See, it's just a problem you go to the doctor, you get diagnosed, you put on meds and uta get better, mwana iku stress. Yeah, but before you reach that level, kwenda kodakta, we must keep our own mark, you know, one minute man, she's human, 30 seconds man. Let it go in a stress. Okay, mimi, kwangu, nisha kutana, kama dosi, mwana fikiwangu san. We imagine, one minute man, 30 seconds man. If you have that condition, when you feel insecure still, ingaku stress, so you just go to the doctor bro and you get meds and you will be fine. So, before you reach that level, kwenda kodakta, the first thing, lasimi iku stress, uta mwana kodakta ro, mwami wiki zi edi, kamaone dakta hai. So ita bidi iku elu, like a machine of function kabisa. But anyways, I think there is a big part of a man's life because, you know, the moment when I realize you have like health conditions to go down, at even opening up and even telling someone it's a problem.  Sunenda kodak tarib naongia.  But that example in gahahaha We had stress of course because like maybe you nearly get a need in the assiria and come at the end of that and be a ward So it had been tena namu tumunye uru kwa naibat by that time Kamani urem tumunye kwa naidem dumumumu Obvious it had arripali it had washida because it ended up with pub Muna muna vile nisu titu lakini akuna kiitu pari So I'm not, I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying So you, it will stress you of course And that can break your self-esteem actually Ya ya Demak yongilap especially private issues in the public Ya ya ya That can permanently break you Ya To feel like And also they urge like you know You feel insecure Don't gossip about your husband Don't Gossip about your husband to your friends Alright Uh, your story yama Danny Uh, Danny's not stressing him say But nili ona tiktok flanim tukis yama muna umeni ma Danny How do you stay happy with debts Like okona tala, okona bank, oko subina Adi Subina am tu aneza pata Danny kwa IMF I think ni Kenya twin eza He kwa na Danny ya China But and many others Ma Danny zena kwa stress Edu As a man But Muna niku apu kwa Danny issue apest Divileni kwa mwa anza apatu kiaze November At the expectation Personal expectation Target Muna apu kufiki ya level fly ni Keshu Apu pesei ni wa seen Ya Kwa itabidu when do kwa pesei ni ya Then kwa kopa Kulipa hasen naka Ono yoku na kopa Onafu kwen na Ile, strategy kwa mba Nita Keshu I'm going to borrow Maybe 10,000 Then I will pay it in this way Then Because Nili set standard ya ngu kwa mba At the end of the day Nita kwa na 10,000 Which nita kumia Keshu Apu At the end of the day Ni fiki ni kuna 5,000 Means Having a negative of 5,000 Sidiya Sidiya fiki ya ele 5,000 So nintenda Imagine Nili eka Target ya ngu hati Keshu morning Nita kwa na 10,000 Then At the end of the day Today Ni kuna 5,000 Kumanasia Keshu morning Araka I will have to borrow Sidiya Then Sunanasia Apu How to plan this thing You didn't plan it To go and borrow Means You don't have the plan Of paying it Baku jwi Nita li pa je Inya nenda kuboro Ili Ni fiki ele Expectation Ni li eka Keshu So Kwa ili araka hati Kwa ili pa Asante stress to Tokyo To say Who has most expensive Ni kitanda Hoka stress Issaku كل eka D 얼itia tuu We do girls go through that I will say Isn't she the most expensive Pu😁zia wuka na ni kitanda Kiki tkakulata usha nga Arangali ya jii Yo Kumanasia Nisha amu dangaina, hwana kombala k 해주ju عaye gwa ila ni ya ki one bedumia ke kwa mahalufla anyu afu we kwa singuru a na kwenbe muki ongen a na kwenbe ya mind iso eh bolu So letter bro letter ai Elnipigi ya kwa na nga kwa kari bu na mahalu na ishi kabelini mahmi e nili enda kwa nyakaizi mahalufla anyu na na ya tenti la kwa nyombu Mona why the sham of like just presenting who you are If I don't have a car, I don't have it. If I'm not in a mansion, I'm not in a mansion, but I'll definitely get there.  For the people who are not in the mansion, they'll definitely get there.    What is the fear, and what do you have to lose in your most vulnerable status among the people? Aaa Mani Kriwa Ita kwa wigu mu hili uudanie anafikiria viluna fikiria. Aneza kwa tu ule jama tu normal, but ako level, ako na pezo kushinda, but ita kwa uta muona kwa jama fikiria viluna fikiria. So kumlet hili... hili kwa kama hindi ako... kwa kama hindi ako... kwa kama hindi ako... kwa kama hindi ako... Ita kwa wigu mu kumugini. All right, Arabus. Mi wana... na ni naji amini na naji kubali, most of the time, like... Kuna witu gere ma... kwa wili kwa naji ako. Sipendi ile kuishi kama mungine. Right. Because I know where I'm coming from. Right. I know where I am today. And I'm very clear of where I'm heading to. Vitu kama izo mimi uazini sumuia kilisa na like. Chene ni konacho. Like ita mwangu nyumbani. Venim koivo. Na mtu ita kita kakuja. Come. Ukiona veni kuku, ukiridika, well and good. Ukifil like... hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Ni kifika kwanjumba. Ni ta mwona kuna like, class plan if... Te nu mefka kwanjumba kumona. Ni kona life ingan, then you feel like we cannot continue. So maybe we'll atta kutaminet. It's okay. It's a piece. I don't know mga being at peace with broken people. Yeah. You're at peace. But what happened to not giving, let me find the right phrase. What happened to not giving a dam? If you know me, you think I'm poor, or you think I'm rich use it. Judge me if you want but me a mud piece. What happened to having that mindset? Because like we said for Aamand, you have to fight through many obstacles in life to be successful to be recognized, to even get a job as Aamand. It was very hard to secure one. But then what happened to just ignoring the voices and being yourself? As I said, you have to know where you are coming from, that is the most important. Then this issue of peer pressure, like, I don't know what I do, I don't know what I do, I don't know what I do, I don't know what I do, I don't know what I do, I don't know what I do, so, from that point, you don't know what I do, so from that point, I feel like, I don't know what I do, it means me, I'm still in the right position. Why do these things matter a lot? Is it because of our material? So do you know what I do? So do you know what I do? So do you know what cooking gas is? But is it because of matter? You know, the nature of this generation, especially our generation, we want to live like we are in our 40s. Ya. Taka kwenai. Yat tu naji tafuta, tu na tamani maisha yadu, nabadu maybe tu kushu desa hi. So iyo na kwa ni shida. So iyo na kwa saide kuji amini, niki letam tu kwa inyumba. Atani judge viba yonona, you feel like ataku judge. It's just a feeling and it's all in your head. So iyo ni problem, but the moment tu naji amini, then I think everything will work. So definitely you will feel some type of hangout na mizana on Audi, where a Mende event na mese ma say hello to these guys, they work on radio, TV, okona magari apana okona aschan. Na wei haona kaki, tu infakteran goza konza mtu issu lizi bai janando me piga. You will still feel insecure about that. Apu. Aspo. Apu lazu. Ok, aspo me. No. Ok. Ni lewona wish, ni kona hida kwa mba, one day I will be there. So lewona kwa apakisho ni tafikapia mimi. So stressiangu ni, how would I get there? Ya, because ya na drive na mimi bian tafanya ni ni drive. So iyo ni stressiana, ni kona ayo, laki ni lewa kwa mba. Pakap maybe on afikatae, maybe you feel like I should not be part of this group, like na takapuenda kapisa, because you feel like eh ni meba okona. Ya, how is it compared? Ya, how is it compared then takapuenda and now. It's affecting you. But then also as a man how do we deal with stress? Just in less than a minute for both of us, muna dili ingajana stress mentally because as a man like to me say how to fight through so many obstacles, for you to even find mental peace, for even to accept yourself, because there's men who've never accepted themselves the way they are, story na self-esteem. Kuna men wajona tokenda in abusive homes where the mother hated him or the dad hated him. Amata the dad kicked them out early. Sama eh, wajana ma toka wende. And that actually broke you. How do you deal with that? Ya kama iyo, na miapa na kwa mbu bai doe. So, ni kuji acceptu kwa life, then we set limits zako enyunona mi nezatimiza hi. Reduce your zako. Reduce your zako enyunona. This my zako. Nikifanya ike hivi na hivi. Then in the next, maybe in the next one ni anita kwa maliflani. After you have accepted yourself, kama lewa sinawu dilakini, brenga kuna bens. I should not stress myself because this is my life. Nafa kuji acceptu kama ish. Kama sinawu dilakini, ntapa na keshu si lewa. Kusako angu lewa, keshu piyenta kosa. Just accept yourself, alafu live maisha ako. Destiny kwa wukumbele, pita kanda kanda uta fika wukumbele maludataka. Just accept yourself. We have to go because we are almost over running. Just say one of your social media, only one, the most important one. Social media? Where people can check you out. Everywhere, all social media platforms, EDW TV official. That's where I am. You're Romani Junior. Instagram, Facebook, PMS.  I'm a photographer and videographer. I'm also a skuplator. So you guys can check him out. EDW TV official. X. Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, everywhere. Thank you guys for coming. We have to go. Thank you for your insights. Thank you for hosting us. We have been speaking to Ravasko, Jerumani and Ebino Nyango. Both students at Zittik University. But they continue telling us, to respond off the air, about what stresses you as a boy child. I'm from Govuzakiyume. I'll put it to this man to say it here. So some of us will bring it to a close. My good name is Sakwa. And tomorrow we'll see you for health and entrepreneurship Tuesday, right here on Why In The Morning. Have an amazing Monday. See you tomorrow.


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