Okay, rice great board of school directors Starting at 633 first order of business is public comment Anyone online Not seeing anyone. Okay. We will move to the consent agenda Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? Consent agenda Any discussion could I pull the SR project letter? You certainly made a new do we need a new motion for that you do need an emotion for that I amend my motion Further discussion All is in favor Any opposed Mia I just had a couple of questions. I think this is the case, but this is the amount that we've been seeing for this project, right? It hasn't changed and Why are we sending a letter to the agency of education just for this project? Why not the whole thing one for each project? Oh, it was a nice added surprise But we didn't know we had to do until just recently okay for each of the projects out of our passers Just a federal requirement. That's Unique to our professor. Okay. We believe right. Yeah It may be something that we will have to do for every Significate construction project but definitely for our answer because it's in the grant management system And it's just this one right now because this is the one Right, so the others not a huge brush right, okay, but you'll probably see similar letters. Got it projects got it and then Isn't it that is there a point at which the board needs to approve the plan the whole plan or no That's where the contradiction comes because no and then we have to do these got it Which makes it appear as if the board needs to the project So that's the slight contradictory. Yeah messaging that we've got in here that we had a little discussion about yeah Okay, that's helpful for so we'll see many it see several It's also not that you can do anything about this. It's hard to Do these in a one like to be looking at and saying yes great in a one-off way It's much better at anyway to look at it as a whole picture. Yes feels more Like making a real decision anyway Okay, I just wanted to thank you wanted to clear up that confusion I had So I moved to approve the Esser project letter About the MSMS space second Was a favor Any opposed great I just want to know that I'm here so I will like my votes to count Just because I had my right my hand raised and it was not noted But I so I approve it even though I had a conversation to have but So if you can just I'm sorry that I'm not fine well to be there I don't want to give you germs, but If you can just make sure that I'm here. I know it's hard to be hybrid but Yeah, no, definitely, and I think that when there's just a universal I like that it just gets counted as everyone's saying All right, but but thank you for noting that American Zach student update With the Do Hold on one second. I'm working on it. And it is the And it is the host right Hey, Anna you on you're the host right now you got to share it or give me Give me host duties Oh, got it. Okay. Hold on. I like the IV It's a nice touch So Good evening everyone our presentation agenda is to share a few district events that have either a past month or are upcoming Give an update on our progress with the MHS vaccination grant share the feedback we heard from our MSMS listening session Provide an update on our correct our continuing curriculum discussions and finally tie everything together as they relate to our next steps as student school board representatives So Let's get into some fun events that have occurred in our community Yeah So the first event That we have is on Saturday. There's the race against racism And there's a there are a lot more pictures that I couldn't fit but they're singing dancing and there was the Running or walking option and a lot of people showed up. It was great. I know a really great event that happened on Friday was the Was the climate rally where hundreds of students from across the state converge on the state house to protest climate change And this was also a very successful event And it was great to see all the these speakers and just the other events that took place at the time around Were they're right not just the protest piece. It was Speakers And Then NHS is prom is happening At VCFA on May 21st. There is a really pretty poster that I could not find a picture of But it's happening Okay, so Our update on the NHS vaccination grant is that the ideas we heard from Both our outreach is the students from the former outreach is the students over the past few months have been trimmed down into what we do as some of the most realistic and overall beneficial ideas that could occur with this money to the NHS community and so these ideas were sending those sending the vaccination funds on new toasters and microwaves for the cafeteria, which are certainly Certainly needed as well as some sustainable outdoor furniture that can be used by Everyone in the school community as well as at least one having I'll get in touch with you about Get in touch with them to get the what you want, right? I've been talking with Renee I talked to her today about it. Yeah, these were the ideas that she I think okay awesome And Just so the board knows if I can interrupt and interject sorry America. I'm doing that a lot too UES is Getting portable soccer goals as well as a Gagabal pit Maybe something else that's smaller like a snow cone maker, I think they're getting a snow cone maker that the kids wanted And msms the soccer goals actually might be at msms New outdoor they also want a Gagabal pit. Oh marry go around UES one marry go around too and so The Gagabal pit was the big seller at UES and msms is UES getting a merry-go-round. I believe so. Yeah Some sort or teeter totters some sort of playground equipment But it would not be what we imagine as children that were like death And then we had our msms listening session We had one with the high school and we're we had one with the middle school now And we're working on one at the elementary school But a lot of the feedback we have there's a whole document, but the main points were that students wanted Something like crafters edge some sort of like events and sort of Community building activities for like an eighth grade trip and fundraising and events students wanted more extra curriculars and more opportunities For stores student-led things and leadership skills and a lot of what people talked about was feeling a sort of Like a separation between even like not even just like grades, but like there's there's different teams And so between those different teams They've been feeling really separated, which is likely it's likely a COVID thing in terms of like for safety protocol But something that was stressed on a lot was like having more events and sort of community building activities And then something the last sort of feedback we had which is Around the same subject is the way that classes are scheduled makes it very difficult for students To travel like between floors. They have Their class ends at a time and their next class immediately starts at that same time So there's no like five minutes for them to go to the bathroom get their stuff and some of their classes are like on the the very bottom floor and then up two floors the next like period so there's a lot of talk about Thinking of a way to restructure that and making it more accessible for everyone I also just wanted to add that We are not by bringing the the feedback that we heard from the msms listening session We're not proposing that the board necessarily take any action on any of the things that we heard or that the students express But we think that as student representatives ourselves It is important to show the board and the public how students across the district But right now at msms are feeling and we're feeling about certain issues With that said as as zack just mentioned we heard a significant amount of feedback on a wide variety of issues at msms and the They're they fall into many different categories, but there were three overarching themes with I would say most of the Feedback that we heard and these themes were a lot of behavioral challenges there a sense of educational disconnect which we saw also at the the high school through just What many students view as an unengaging like learning environment And also a sense of our need for more learning support And one example is in the second in the second part of the feedback side Where students have a time for support with their teachers and ssts But ssts aren't Really supportive for students Because ssts are really more of a time for just How I don't know how just just how they're set up. They're not Very helpful for students because it's either they're not learning what they are or learning in class might just be completely different or It's just they're not getting the support that they need perhaps the teacher, uh, isn't Helping them out with some kind of area. They're just put like a prompt on the wall this specific example we heard that in ssts A teacher might just put a writing prompt on a wall for example based on completely different on what they were learning in class And just have the students fill out those writing prompts And that's not really a very supportive way to reinforce what students were learning in class So there's just this kind of sense that ssts are not very supportive for students and that there is a need At the middle school for more supportive time And sst for just acronym sake is student support It's basically an intervention block right now that's being in the process of being redesigned I think that's uh, very probably a good thing very needed for Well, we will also share the full notes that we took from this listening session with the board For for any members want to look at those Because there's a lot more than just what we listed but what we listed on our presentation gets at most of What we heard And then um, we have um had We've had two meetings with the curriculum director Because a lot of the feedback we've gotten Um at the high school and also at the middle school but more so at the high school What has been about sort of curriculum and make sure making sure everything Is up to date supportive and engaging For students and so we're going to continue to have those regular meetings and work on Making everything accessible for people and yesterday America and I met with emma To discuss some of our future goals and some of that was around a curriculum and Again making it accessible for people And a lot of what we as student representatives are going to do right now is Doing research on what improvements might look like In regards to curriculum Alrighty, so moving forward Um, we are going to continue researching how best We feel that we can improve the curriculum in the ways that We have heard from Students over the course of our outreaches to them And we're also going to continue assisting in any way with the mhs vaccination grant making sure that that funding is Like just shown in this in this field Additionally, we are going to continue to support students and and in ensuring that their voices are heard both out at these board meetings and just in general throughout their educational experiences this year so forth And finally what we plan to hold was an accession at ues and rbs over the next month or so, hopefully But yeah, that's that was a presentation the The vision and committee attempted to facilitate an activity to engage the rbs kids To talk about sort of vision and values types things. It was hard Um, and so if you guys are going to go there you should you should Consult with myself and nathan if if in sort of maybe some of what we learned some of the Some of the some of the challenges that we ran into maybe can can make your your attempt more successful Yeah, we certainly appreciate that it was hard I can challenge you. It was fun.  Yeah It was fun, but getting to the actual values as opposed to like I want to be a fireman Not sure exactly what When or what questions you ask students at rbs, but at the middle school specifically, we did not have much trouble at all getting A lot of good feedback from the students So yeah, I mean well, maybe we should figure out a way to have a meeting I mean your own the vision and committee as well if we what we learned can help you You know accomplish your goals then that's good I just have to thank you guys both so much for putting this together for the board It's such a flavor we have not had before and you've already brought so much perspective and I I don't think For example middle school students get the opportunity to have that sort of conversation with older students that they look up to and It looks like just looking at some fascinated. Obviously. I have a middle school or but They seem like pretty reasonable like Big things like pretty clear observations of things that adults can maybe do something about so And I don't think they get a lot of chances to have that kind of Feedback like I'm seeing things about like the bathrooms in the hallway is like very logistical things that all send a message to students So just really appreciate you guys Doing all this legwork between me. So thank you Yeah, absolutely um further questions for I have a question. Um I have three questions So I also just want to thank both americans that Um, I think it's incredibly valuable what you're bringing to the board in your role as two representatives and I'm deeply appreciative of it Um, my first question is sort of like a board question slash Libby question about the toasters and microwaves I wonder if that's if there's something that we could do to spend Fun balance or something else on toasters and microwaves so that they can have a little bit more in their budget for hummingbird feeders Outdoor furniture. Yeah, and not be like using this like grant. It just feels like I know that that's That is a functional thing in a cafeteria That feels like maybe we could help offset that cost. I think we can look at the list. That's the first I've seen it So that okay My second thing is about that transition time I just want to sort of punctuate that because I was just attending a workshop with joelle vent lent through my My job outside of my role on the board Um, and she has done a lot of work with this school district. She's a psychologist Um And she specializes in sort of like child psychology as it relates to education. She does a lot of consulting work and stuff She's um a very well respected Voice and she spent a lot of time on this topic of transition time and especially sort of post covid that in a world where behavior issues are on the rise and just um emotional sort of stress levels in in children are higher Than they have been in the past that Building in transition time was like a big topic of this workshop And so that can either be done in like the scheduling You know master schedule type of way or it could be done also just sort of in the cultural norm of classes would be that like the first 10 minutes or something would be set aside for transition time So that if someone's trying to get from upstairs to a downstairs class that they wouldn't be like late Anyway, so I'll just punctuate that as like feels like an important thing to consider um And then the other question was about the Roxbury village school listening session and I wonder If you and Zach might consider also holding like a special Roxbury student listening session at both the middle school and the high school You might have better access to those kids that way or you might like I don't know what Rett's input would be but Or question, but it might be nice to make a special time At the middle school to try to harness that voice there for the kids that travel from Roxbury or here at the high school Like opposed to just a traditional rvs listening session or yeah, or both all of them So like there's there's rvs there's the rvs school and the kids up to fourth grade that attend that school But then there's rvs community members that come to that are main street middle school students Or popular high school students and they might have a different perspective Um, and it might be interesting to have them all in the room at the same time, you know, kind of giving like a Having like a Roxbury specific listening session for sure Means I can talk about that sounds like a really great idea. I'm not sure how many I think it might be about like maybe 10 5 to 10 kids per grade or something like that come from Roxbury. I don't know what the numbers are No less 32 kids total like they're my son that's an mhs. Okay So maybe it could even be combined Those middle school and high school but sort of for those Roxbury kids Was that that was two questions to do well the second one wasn't a question It was more of the sort of snapping at the transition time thing. Okay Well, I just wanted to comment on the transition time We like means I asked The middle schools during our listening session if They thought that the transition time that we get with the high school Which is five minutes of between each class if they would be supportive of that and they all said that they Very much weren't supportive that instead of instead of having their class end right at 955 and their next class starting right at 955 Yeah And your acknowledgement of like that type of thing is not under our Per view as board members, but it's good to be Listening and hearing and trying to be responsive Alrighty, thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you Thanks, Zach Next is for discussion so finance committee report and no, no Yeah, I can um provide a quick update Sorry to just add it Can I make a request to add another item to this piece of the agenda? Which is from the equity committee to request some money For the first survey monkey we can to I just wanted to add it to the agenda After we hear the report. Yeah, I think we can do that. Um, I think Douglas was adds up at the beginning. Sorry I won't be much help on that department So you should have received in your packet and then the finance committee just heard um The walking through the fi 22 third quarter report That as always has a really helpful sort of summary about The shape that we're in at this point in the fiscal year And where expenses and revenues are falling And the sort of interplay with the various federal funds that are coming in and out On the second page of the report, um, it looks like it's there's a table and then there's a piece called fund balance information Um, this has been updated to reflect the decisions the board has made recently to add the um to assign or commit some of the fund balance to the track project and possibly net zero study And then it also sort of delineates the different upgrades that are also Being used in the sort of set aside and that we would continue to have Over 2.5 of the budget sort of in an unreserved fund balance, but that we feel Like we're in better shape in that we have committed a fair amount. So our our fund balance is lower, which is good We don't want it to get too out of control and high um I don't know if anyone else in the committee read our aniquette had anything else you guys wanted to add um any questions one other thing that the overall We're expecting about a hundred thousand dollars, um, of surplus So that will get added to the fund balance as well. So Right now it's 130 or 652 or 653 so We'll potentially have 750 Which is still over Or two percent. Yeah, that's going to be you know instead of 130 do over it'll be a 230 some over um a lot of the The expenses are growing up. Uh, so the expenditure The total line is 26 million and 33,500 before so that will go up But the revenue is going up too because of asset funds and other revenue sources. So Most of it will balance out, but we'll end up with 100,000 dollars In green and are the kind of created lines or those Commitments because I know that one is the track which is from last meeting and the potential at zero Which was mentioned at the last meeting. I got any questions for finance committee I have a few um about the That set aside Um, that was done just after the last meeting The set aside, sorry, I should be more specific the set aside for the net zero study and the digital control system Correct. Those those highlighted items are new since the last report. Yeah, and then what's the threshold? I mean, I can see there's a big difference between 50 thousand dollars and one and a half million dollars But do we have a sort of threshold where we would say actually that takes It makes more sense for the board to make the decision than for the administration to make the decision Yeah, what's the number? I would say If it's if it's under Usually it's under maybe 25 thousand dollars and it probably wouldn't be significant enough. There is an item on here That's 15,000 but that was because it was a An item that failed and we had to do it and the only way to do it was to put on this list um That's condensed. Oh the condensing unit, uh-huh But typically if it's under say 25,000 dollars I wouldn't be looking to call it out because this could end up being like an infinite list of stuff Um, I would look to see if we're just in the execution of our budget. We can handle Small things. Okay. Somebody says oh you really need this thousand dollars If we could look at somebody's budget and realize we probably have a flexibility that we can use to save a thousand years and we'll just Cover it right and I will give you an on right. This is more like Big things that have failed or or high priority topics that I want to make sure the board is aware of A lot of the stuff that's on here is facilities related to energy conservation or In the term in terms of their condensing unit something that failed So it's really if it's significant enough I would put it on this list because I want to be transparent to the board and make sure you are aware of it But if it's something more that's a noise level, then we will try to slip it out ourselves without getting it on Yeah But yeah, I'd say it's really for the rule of thumb. I would say Maybe 25,000 dollars. Uh-huh something like that. And then just hey zack and amanda. Can you hear? Grant okay So I saw thumbs up and a so-so. Okay. Just want to make sure um, you can Keep up Okay Sorry And then obviously the board voted for the one and a half million What would be the threshold that we would say actually this is more of a board decision then Then you know you you did the set aside for the 50,000. I'm not opposed to you doing it I'm just curious to know like where between 50,000 Or 100,000 for the ventilation system upgrade for example and one and a half million Do we have one where we would say actually it makes more sense for the board to have a discussion about this and make the decision Well, and we did the 50,000 too That was part of our motion for the track is we also added the 50,000 for the study. No, we didn't No, we didn't no talked about it, but yeah I mentioned that I would add it In that case, it's not really a dollar threshold that we're talking about It's terminology. Okay committed fund balance means the board took action to commit it So even if there was something that we said was $10,000 if the board took action to do it, I would put it under committed and you would have to go for it These unreserved what I'm calling kind of set aside just means that It's not committed. The board didn't take action. It isn't assigned meaning being It wasn't voted on by the public, right? It's it's basically just something else that we know we're going to overspend and I want to want to make sure and go aware of it Yeah, so um assigned means voters that voted on it Committed means the board has voted on it. Uh-huh anything else is just things that have raised the level that I want to make sure and go aware that we're doing and I wouldn't want to replace the condensing unit for For $15,000 and not even let you know. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so it's it's more terminology and Or threshold And does it count does it one of the things we were talking about in the last meeting was the concern that With too big of a surplus the state could come in and say, oh no, actually doesn't look like you need that money Do the things that are listed under unreserved set asides? Do those count toward? Nope, actually. We really do need it. Don't take it from us with that or could the state come in and take that money the The audit most likely revenue order is coming up board. So the audit will break it up into those categories that will show Assigned which is what we're anticipating to use for future revenue sources, which is in essence voted on because the public allows Um This stuff all the things that are under unreserved right here are about a million dollars I'm But don't we have an unreserved of 1.6 something right now because this The 652 Are you kind of oh, are you counting that in the one way? Yeah? Yeah, including that would be about one one one point two Got it. Okay. Thanks. Sorry So I think that's a reasonable number to have. Okay unreserved. It's not gonna Not gonna lose eyebrows or maybe let me take notice of if it was the whole 3.8 million I think that's a different story that that's a significant amount of money and risk That if something happens with say the legislature or something else that could be at risk, right? I think if the numbers are around a million considering our annual budget is 26 million Great so just to clarify the answer that we're hearing because I'm not 100% clear Is um the question on does the board need to take action on any Is there any threshold where it requires board action to approve spending uh fund balance? You know as an individual contract though, we can't actually like I could put anything on here And as long as I call it out and make you aware of it, then that's fine But if say this these heat pumps for 75,000 when we actually go to buy those We can't just sign off on that document You will see it and approve that contract. So that dollar amount I believe is 50,000. That's what I remember too. That's in policy It's in policy. Yeah, right. So if there's a contract that we're gonna award for $50,000 You can see it whether it's coming from fund balance or whether it's even just for the regular budget Yeah, but if there wasn't a contract if it was like we're buying $50,000 worth of toasters and microwaves That probably wins then we wouldn't see that Like computer devices, okay, it's more like the one big If we buy 100 computer devices for $500 each, you're probably not gonna see that for $15,000 So when the when the board approves these Finance reports, they're sort of in essence like this is the opportunity for the board to sort of see your Ideas around what needs to be spent and how and there was some like major alarm bells being rung This would be the opportunity to bring it out. And that's why I try to make sure I highlight what's new from the last report Yeah Yeah, okay, it's at any time you could push back and say You know, we approve this but we want this to be Think about that as a handle Thank you. Um So going back to the $50,000 and I'm sorry, I missed some of it. I couldn't really hear but So Is there do we still need to commit those 50,000 because because we didn't We kind of just wanted in grant you said last time that Um Sorry, my brain is totally fogged. I'm not feeling so well today. Um, you said that That you know, we could just add it But you could also just take it away If the administration decides to use that money somewhere else. So is there so the question I guess to the board is Do we feel like we want to commit as a board to that those 50 grand so that that is Actually in the audit as money that we're committing to the next serious study Um, and before anybody takes that on I would say a couple things Not only do I highlight when I put something on this list. I would highlight if I was taking something off I don't just on my own decide to do something The reason why I was against committing that is for everything that you put on the That you commit That's something that we will have to track with the auditors on exactly how much of that did we spend this year And how much do we need to adjust it for the audit so that For example, if we say 50,000 for potential net zero study if we spend 600 dollars Then I need to make sure to tell the auditors here's the receipt that we spend 600 dollars And now you need to reduce this committed amount from 50,000 to 49,400 dollars And we have to go through that level of detail of tracking it which For the track the high school track. That's a significant thing and we need to do that But if it's something lower than that, I just didn't want to have to go through the extra work of Reconciling every line item on the fund balance with the auditors each year I will tell you that we don't put anything on or take anything off of this list without without briefing you Yeah Yeah, I'm just going to respond to Amano's because I had that same question right after the the last meeting and It feels like right now given we don't know You know, I understand the the net zero study is a study to figure out things we don't know But we're not quite even sure what we would study yet There might come a point where I as a board member would feel like it would make sense for us as a board to make that commitment and I'm not Sure, we're there. This is just, you know, I don't believe we're quite there yet But especially because this is one of the You know top five, I would probably say issues that we've been hearing about from the community over the course of the last year Um, this does feel like something that rises to the level regardless of the dollar amount that the board probably should vote on soon We might just not be there yet I definitely really appreciate the context you're giving us about Well, if it's a 600 dollar receipt, then we have all this tracking we have to do There might be a point where we are able to Make that commitment to spend that money and then we would spend it in larger chunks. So maybe there's less tracking to do but Well, I think we can go right over to we can make sure that the Facilities and energy committee is is tracking where that fund is going and then a study like this is going to be something We're going to contract out. So that contract will come to the board and we'll approve that contract so I think we can Kind of exercise oversight that way and avoid the audit problem. At least that's kind of my thought on how And we did a few years back We had several things on a committed list And it got a little tricky because then we were also having to adjust and every time you adjust like say we Say we we did go forward with this and we awarded a contract for the study and it was 45,000 Then I would have to have everybody vote on reducing the committed fund balance from 50,000 to 45,000 Change it and then I would have to document that with the auditors to show that we reduced it by 5,000 whereas if it's just on here Then we can make those adjustments and I can adjust this amount and update it every quarter to let you know how those are going So at some point if it's a firm member and we're pretty sure that's locked in and you really feel it's important enough Then yes, obviously you have the ability to commit Whatever you want. Okay, but I would hold off at least for a while and Maybe it's something you don't ever have to do but if you do I would hold off a little while at least Amada I guess I will defer to the energy committee And the facility committee and I would like to maybe for in the near future agenda to bring back You know like the mayor and Kate Stevenstone and all the people that are working on the net zero in the town that have Just to kind of go over things for the new board members to since the presentation was in March of last year I think it will be really great to kind of like see the big picture again and remind ourselves About that and I do I do, you know, I I did bring it up in the policy committee But just like we did make that commitment to the students that we will look at the policy and so Hopefully we'll be taking that up soon Okay Yeah, I know it will definitely be here in more than zero Anything else from last pretty Thank you so much And we have to approve the third quarter report I move to approve the quarter three financial report The second I second Any discussion All those in favor Amada is that an aye? Any opposed Great, um, and then we also need Um action to make a donation to the Vermont coalition for student equity to have a motion to take that action Um, I'll make a motion to donate $5,000 just to start the conversation somewhere to the Vermont coalition for student equity So second, I'll second that Hi Let's I've already seconded once tonight Spread it around discussion Um, I have more questions for your grant Um, because it looks like from the report that My guess is that this would come from the superintendent and school board line item. Is that the right place to? Uh, I'm not sure what it is Oh, it's a donation to the Vermont the coalition for Vermont student equity, which the board voted to become a member of the coalition You know two and a half months ago And so it's a nonprofit Organization that we're considering making the donation to almost sort of like membership So like a vsa membership kind of yeah. Yeah Uh, I guess if we go into the school board dues and fees for our school board Um, we would have I'd have to get some contact information on exactly who the vendor is right would have to establish them and get the I-9 or whatever we need to make sure that we can establish them as a vendor in the system I just wasn't sure what it was about. Okay Part of the sickness is when I was trying to figure out right It's a coalition of school districts that were um I don't want to use the word lobbying, but they were working really hard. No, they would have a lot of But um to to um have school district voices heard for the waiting study. So They had testimony. They had a lobbying firm. They were tracking the legislation and sort of strategizing on how to influence the conversation about where the weights ended up um, I wasn't sure what like the vsa is something that is Always going to be there and always has work that's going on and it sounds like this was specific to some legislative action that Yeah, isn't it already done? It's been always done. Yeah, the governor still needs to sign it, but I don't know if they still have work to do I will say that it goes a little farther than that. Um, it's a coalition Of school board members and school boards who have signed on to it Uh, but that have a very specific equity focus, which is why the pupil waiting was really um key So I think that once the The bill passes there's going to be an implementation and accountability pieces around So this is not going to be a one-on-one done. I think this is a long term Kind of thing to ensure that the voices of those school board members school boards that have you know ELL students in this case That was a lot of the advocacy that was happening that it continues to have Um, a very important part of the conversation around funding for schools and all of that I don't think it's just like this is the bill and that's it. They're looking at Other education pieces around education quality standards and how that looks into ELL students and how to support that. So Um, I think that you know, it's not just like the one thing that they will be looking at and getting Asking for feedback from us as a school board Yeah, um, just the mechanics was I think at five thousand. I don't think I would add it in here What I would do is I would if you voted to do this, I would probably charge against the superintendent The school board superintendent line. Yep, and then we would just track that in the end of the year if we're over That might be the reason why right or something like that Um at five thousand dollars. It's not gonna It's not significant enough that I would raise the visibility right in one balance line, right? So I would say that's completely up to the school board if at some point this is something that You think is a recurring requirement. I think it's something that we would want to add into the budget process Obviously 22 is done and 23 is also done. So Then this year and next year if you wanted to do this, it would be something that we would purposely be Overspending and just have to cover and then if it's something that's long term in f5 24 We won't build it into a budget So I would say that's the board's decision. If you tell me to do that I will do it I just would need somebody to give me some contact information You know, like if this was vsa, I'd say, okay Who's the vsa contact that I need to contact to get we'll need something from them Like some kind of an invoicing to send us that you pay it and we'll need paperwork and that kind of thing. So My I guess it's just it's totally up to the board if you want to do this or not and if you do then I'll just work with maybe to get the contact information Yeah, great So my questions I do still have questions about the math of it. Are we sorry great Are we if would $5,000 put us over budget? It was hard for that line item That was hard to tell from the quarter three report It's already it's only The noted to be over budget. So we'll Pay back from esser funds and fund balance, right? Yeah Yeah, it's going to be over the expenses are going to be over, right? We will cover those from either fund balance or from federal funds that we anticipate I would say Once again, if you hold my feet to the fire The net out of school board and superintendent I think you'd be pretty close to level and that position if you if you Look at the over expense, but then you factor in revenues that are going to cover that I'd say we're going to be pretty close level Might that one single line end up being slightly over budget if we spend another $5,000 maybe but Not right now. I don't you do not seem worried. I'm Great As long as the decimal doesn't change places Great. Thank you all right, um All is it ever any of those So we worked on conflict resolution with the restorative justice center, then there's my problematic small edition of the Oh, yes survey monkey So a little context here is that the equity committee is very close to finishing the questions for the school climate survey and um Survey monkey looks like the best place for us to hold this because the back end of it is much more robust than google survey and um There is another layer of anonymity When it is not in google, which you know, we all have the gmail addresses I don't know exactly how that layer of anonymity works, but anyway, or like how the if you don't use your email it's not um Anonymous but that is you know What we're learning? Um, and so the amount amanda it's either 25 a month or 75 a month. Can you give us the differences? with what yeah, um, there's there's a lot of levels and graphics and Things that we can get with either 25 dollars or 75 dollars a month um, I will add me out of the reason why Can I add that why we're also using? Yeah, please so we are working to use a a national data system climate survey in addition to some of the questions we have and um And They have a whole system that we can just upload Our survey very anonymous to be able to track some of the climate as statistics with some of the national proven things and to be able to give us tools The way to look at it, um, which we can explain in the in the next meeting But when I spoke to the tech people Survey monkey is one of the ones that we can use instead of google survey because it's the way that it exports um all the The system itself so um So, yeah, it's 25 dollars a month um Or 75 dollars a month and we will be using it for you know, I think a couple of months to be able to retain the data for um Just because then it goes away kind of thing if you don't keep it for a month for like more than a month I can give you the plans and prizes um The 25 dollars a month, um The 75 dollars in addition to the ones that you get for 25 dollars a month you get click Map data visualization, which we don't need but we have the ability to multilingual surveys if we wanted to sentiment analysis if we want to do response quality cross tabs on limited filtering compare rules data and trends advanced survey logic tools Block random manifestation white level surveys survey completion redirect um removing the survey monkey footer and creating private apps with direct apa access, which would be one probably so um That's that That is that Let's see so We just have to we have to I guess approve some money for getting the survey monkey The board doesn't need to approve a 75 dollar expense. Just tell us out of the board Okay, do you want survey monkey and we get the survey monkey? Okay, great. That's not we needed to have a vote for Would it be somewhere? Are we going to have like a year like do we see using this regularly or would we just kind of get it for a couple of months and then stop That's it. I think it's just a couple months and then stop. Okay, and then maybe a couple more months next year and then stop Well, it depends it depends Uh, if we get the other system then we will have to use survey monkey But that's uh, but oh the national one. Yeah, okay Okay So maybe this is just an FYI we would like to spend that money All right, that's good I mean, and it could be something that we do want to continue if we're you know as part of the listening session effort If there if we are deciding that we want surveys regularly, you know, maybe it's something that if we really like it We could keep using it Yeah, I'm just kind of I mean expenditures at this level can really just kind of go directly Okay, good Good to know I wasn't sure if anything that the board wanted to spend money on we should talk about as a board But you're it is not that much money. It's true. If it's like a track. Yes So contract resolution with the restorative justice center, um, thank you Grants Sure, I mean the the quit as Most folks know maric zack and sagey. I think maybe we're the ones who weren't on the board yet We held an initial session with carol plant of the Montpelier community justice center To just talk through what, um, you know communication conflict resolution it was sort of like a you know, you might think of as like a 101 for thinking in education terms um, and we determined coming out of that that we could use a little bit more work as A board to figure out sort of like what our foundation is and jim and I volunteered to Get that going and then we um lost track of that in for a little bit, but we brought it back We got back to it and This is what I shared with you all this morning is the start of that continuation of that work where we felt like What we could really use some work on is as an or as a team of people Establishing what our group agreements are and then also we have this Carol shared with us some draft language for what I sort of In in other boards that are more like a nonprofit board. They use it as a resolution I'm not sure if we would necessarily call this a policy, but this could be sort of like the This is what jump starts the process if and when we have tension that arises that is You know shuts down the work of the board um So anyway, that's the the draft language for that and we're sharing it with um the board tonight is just like Here's what we've got so far. We'd love to hear from you on You know, if you think about putting this to use what feels really useful to you about it What feels missing And then in the hopes that during the board retreat we continue can continue to do this work together and maybe we'll Maybe Jim and I can get it a little bit further before then Yeah, no, we have a few questions which we can You know for people to think about I know people got it recently. So we don't necessarily have to delve into this but Just I wanted to give you an update in FYI It's about to think about it Sorry, Jim. We're thinking about it about we're thinking about what we're thinking about Having the conversation in the retreat Or are we giving feedback about the we didn't do the retreat or we could set aside some time at a meeting Which might be kind of depending on you know, what we use the retreat for um Yeah, largely I think yeah, I kind of think about like do like the general products of the language Yeah, we're also dealing like but just the reality is that there's this agreement on boards, um and You know, there's inherently going to be some conflict, uh, you know, and we actually I think I have the luxury of a board that's generally on the same page but You know, we could get a board member who thinks we're a bunch of copy lefties and You know is is elected for the purpose of sticking the spoken wheels um and You know then then words like collaboration and and you know Conflict so then you know if we have a situation like that, what would we have a conflict? process for then I think we're probably looking at you know situations where we're unable to Disagree and have discussions in a you know in a polite respectful matter Um Yeah, and and you know taking it to that level and what if a board member has no interest in conflict resolution at all? um We we can't We're stuck with board members until The electric tells us otherwise. So, um, you know at some level this has to be a voluntary process and our ability to um, you know deal with a board member who is Conflictual and and then time being conflictual is also limited. So, um, you know, I think Design a process that acknowledges those realities So I think for the purposes of tonight if you have initial thoughts within that context We'd love to hear them and then again, you know hoping to spend some time on the retreat during the retreat on this as well Yeah, I I have some some initial thoughts Mostly around the questions to answer about What what came up for me when I was reading these last questions? around the Like what do you do if someone is Conflictual is that a word? and you know part part of This work around thinking about restorative justice versus punitive systems, which is you know a lot that was coming around safety when when We were engaged in the community around the school safety And a lot of the conversations and frameworks that we can look at conflict conflict doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing And thinking about the difference between a punitive system Which in these questions that you ask is what I see a punitive system. We're like, what do you do? What is the recourse do we you know take away his attack? This person's assay assignments or censor them or remove them that is a very punitive system versus a restorative justice system, which then you'll have You know a person that doesn't want to be involved in the process of restorative justice Like what happens then versus a transformative justice which is looking at what are the conditions that we are setting there For this conflict to be mature and to be there So what are looking more at the root causes and the culture and the values that are inherently present? because if you start from there, I think that the The the conversation shifts a little bit more that that person is going to censor themselves and remove themselves Is the conditions are set just as when you have a person who doesn't feel safe or doesn't feel That that could also lead to the censor themselves a removal of themselves From the place so it could you could have a good member who's not feeling safe Or you can have a bad member who is inherently there to create a conflict And both the punitive system doesn't work for neither of them So what you're creating is like if we if we move this conversation towards like a transformative justice Framework that is looking at the root causes and what are the conditions that need to be What are the seeds that you need to put in the soil? So that what you are coming out the flowers that are coming now are You know are being able to create that dialogue to be able to be transformative to be able to believe that we are here in in good condition, so Just starting from there from just thinking about those questions what it looks like And I'll be happy to share a little document that we created with an organization that I am Part of around these three different models and the questions and the systems that are in place when you start conflict with that and I am Particular interest in this conflict resolution because it was part of the safety committee recommendations too And I think it's really important that if we are pushing restorative justice for Our schools and that we're saying like it needs to also be included in our in in the boards You know like it can just be like this is what we are going to do for students when we In here don't have that same models I think like it's a really great way to show The community that you know when we are saying restorative justice We're also applying it to the way that we interact with each other We're restorative or transformative justice. So I would like to spend some time on that and look at some Yeah guide some conversation not me but like Um Have the conversation around those three models and and what is the model that we want to embody as the board And and how do we you know look at those scenarios? So That's what I have Sorry Just a question. What's the What's the angle um of this uh in terms of are we Getting to a policy or we're gonna come up with a policy or we're gonna come over the process. What's the angle? I mean, I'm not trying to get that angle is there's no conflict or we have a you know, but Out of this process like what are we trying to achieve? Um at the end as a I don't know physical thing That we we need to get out of this Is that we're talking a process document are we talking a policy document are we talking a combination of all of those? What are you talking probably a process document? Okay. Yeah It's curious. We have been talking about um in the policy committee. We've been talking about sort of the need of a document that Describes how the board functions Um, that would be user friendly for both board members and people outside wanting to interact with the board And so I could see this being part of that We haven't made a lot of progress on that yet, but Yeah, I think the other future goal. I think at the end of this it is a policy or a Process document It was also one of the recommendations coming out of the school safety Committee work that the district have a conflict resolution policy But I don't that's not what we're spending our time on with this specifically Because this is about board communication and not how the district right The other thing it could be mentioned in there's a policy around like board expectations It could be mentioned in that policy or even attached as procedure in that policy Other questions or comments What what are next steps like so you're drafting You know, you're sort of drafting this document.  You know for all of us to sit down with them or is it it's just sort of more like drafting this document My hope was that we would get a little bit further before Bringing them in if we needed to and that the next step would be Using feedback that we've gotten tonight Jim and I would do a little bit more work ourselves and then use time for a more robust actual sort of like Really, what do we want this to look like? What do we want the outcome to actually look like during the border treat? Okay This is a point of clarity. I've made everybody of you are and so except oh, yeah, and jen because Like should more people start commenting on this document you break open any lines, right? Thank you Just in case people are wondering why they can Right Okay, right. Yes, you can send us You can individually send them send comments to one of us Right and jack has his hand up Yeah, um, I apologize if this has been uh talked about before but are the student representatives Are we going to attend the border treat or is that something separate from our work? Um, you're absolutely welcome to um, and we'd love to have you there But it's also gonna be a day and towards the end of school. So if you have other commitments, you're certainly welcome to Bow out So what really is the border tree? Um, we nice prelude it to the next party I think the word retreat is um It's very Yeah, it's more like It's basically an extended meeting where we do a deep dive on a couple of topics and sometimes we Also do some sort of like the extended exercise to Build camaraderie get to know each other better Decide whether we're mountain lake people or beach people first type of things But I think you both should absolutely come if you have the time your schedule for sure I think that's also interesting. Yeah. Is that facilitated? Sometimes yes, sometimes no we we had our last in person part of the retreat was facilitated actually by Nathan Before that now No, we had a good couple pre-use that were facilitated where we we did Line up on a mountain stream ocean. I bet you enjoyed that. I bet you really enjoyed that I should I should know this but is this open to public or is part of the open? It's a it's a notice meeting. Yes. Okay. So the entire meeting is usually open. Okay Yeah, which is another reason why it's loosely a retreat In general if we have it here, we have the adventured over to the historical museum. Which was nice. Which was nice Years to get lunch. So yeah, no, it's a good kind of data that delved into something So jumping into that I think there are two things you want to do and we don't have to make file decisions is get some dates that that work and some Topic ideas Yeah, obviously we can decide anything but For topics, I would suggest no more than kind of one or two main topics and there can be some subtopics under it Um You know and obviously we have you know some things going on like the visioning process that we may want to get thought to about you know How we want to how we want to engage that and you know, I think you know What what we want to do that how I make sure that that Uh gets us the product that we want Um, I would put a strong plug into spending at least some time on that and then I know some people have brought up, you know process concerns and things like you know, it's part of process You know conflict resolution, etc. Um, and then you know other other things that that might come to mind but You know keep keeping the the topics narrow and I think oftentimes for focused Are usually useful If Folks have dates in june that they know are bad. Oh june. Um In the past we've taken a board meeting and extended it If that helps us a starting point Right and then we can't go to the night meeting we bring it earlier. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah After the 20th, I'm away All right, um the 15th And in terms of time, um, we're talking four hours What are we talking about? Usually about four to five and sometimes we'll do you know Four and a half or five and have a half hour 45 minute lunch in the middle You know, like a 10 to 10 to two three thing 10 to three I mean the week of the 13th is great for me the week of the Sixth I have But then the week of the 20th they're good for them. I'm not the week of the six I've got Another Annual board meeting for work and then Yeah I think that's a doodle. I mean if there's just lots of I mean we we have a meeting on the 15th on wednesday, so And would we be looking at during the day though? Is that what you're saying? We might do it I mean, we don't want to sit there for four hours at night And we do have a middle school tour that day from 4 30 to 6 so it would have to be prior to that I'm free and stays out bad for me Yeah, I actually have my retreat for my job that day So, why don't we have wait can we do on saturday? Um, I I can't do saturday So I think doodle poll. So let's do do a poll. We already know the Why don't we and I want you to stretch days on like the week 13th and Maybe the week of That's may 30th may 30th because we have a board meeting on the first. Yeah, which I guess is the 31st is that the 30th? It's been more of a June right, right? June for me. So it's nothing about May or June Well talking about june and possibly that first week of june which encompasses a day or two of may um And I mean if I'm the only person that can't make it in later june feel free to look at dates in later june Yeah, I think the later you get the harder it'll be. I think you're right Can I ask a question about the themes? Um, just To add to that I've just been thinking a lot about the budget process and creating a plan for that For community input and I am wondering just like being able in that retreat to create a A plan for next year of really starting our budget community input process Really early and like really setting up this stage And creating some of the work plan around all of the different committees and how that stacks with each other So there's more of comprehensive plan for the year And I'm not sure if that's for that retreat, but I really feel like we should be Really thinking how the committees come together how we push a vision together Overwork together and how How we can layer the different roles that we have into like whether it's policy What are like priorities for us in terms of this coming year? Whether is like what the priorities for the equity committee? What are the priorities so that we have a little more accountability about how committees come together? And that we are able to also Kind of give voice around some of the The committees work Yeah Yeah, I wanted to just plus one what amanda just said and think even that To give to be able to do that maybe we The if we're thinking about like what are we leaving the board retreat with Some goals for the board for the year That we then can use to coordinate committee work And prioritize and prioritize and maybe and maybe even those goals are Not they might we may actually feel like they're when we leave they might might feel not that ambitious But just keeping in mind that we are still I feel like kind of getting our feet Under us and that it could be a goal that Our committee work is coordinated and prioritized next year But I think leaving the the board retreat with some goals for the board That are in parallel My ideal would be in parallel with the goals the administration has that are so that we can be In support of the administration through the work that we do as a board Um, I also think it might be great if individual committees could do a little bit of that goal work Just if we're asking if we're thinking about like goals for the equity committee or goals for the policy committee I could see the policy committee being able to define Some goals pretty quickly outside of the retreat So that we weren't taking retreat time because we all serve on multiple committees. So that would be Maybe a time burglar Yeah, it's a point Now I like that idea. Um other suggestions Just thinking about the restorative justice piece if this is going to become a part of our process in the event of conflict Is it possible for the board to I don't know what it takes to become trained in this way of being Um, and I'm don't I have not been trained or exposed to this way of being I've heard about this and I've seen things about this, but is there a would the would it be If we choose to have this as a way of dealing with conflicts, would it be possible for the board to Have some kind of training some at some point that board members if they chose could participate in um So that we're up to speed on what this actually what it actually looks like and how it works I want to be exposed to better exposed and better Equipped to understand how it works. I don't have I don't have anything right now. I don't I don't have the Knowledge about it. I would like to I don't know We could definitely look into some trainings on that and that's another I mean as part of a like your work plan We might want to set up some parameters around that the trainings we'd like to see And things we like to work on the board A training I have in mind that would kind of bring out the idea of being in parallel with administration And this is sort of a question so you're letting me know we've been talking a little bit about Data there might be like a new data platform kind of coming online, but I would love to kind of If that's happening understanding that platform and then just like the broader question of like as a school board What is our role in working with data? How do we work with data to produce, you know, meaningful work at board level? So, yeah Goed in for having some kind of training around Dalla. I think connected to that for me would be helpful is And it could be part of a work plan is What data does the board want to see and when you want to see it throughout the year? So it's not to be guessing Then That would be right This is partially come up in the superintendent evaluation tool that we've been trying to improve And I don't know where the things that were I don't know if all of the things that we're hoping necessarily should live there or might live somewhere else or You know might be just might if that dovetails with how Things get presented. I would like that tools be effective for you For everyone but for you And to be an effective tool for whomever the superintendent is As far as the vision committee work The the concept is that we have some of the data and reports back from the visioning committee around the time of this Retreat to be able to look at it and think about it and that then the future work of that committee After the date of the retreat ish Is more about drafting actual language around the vision and potentially a vision statement or Is that is that right? Yeah, I think so and I think yeah, I don't think the thing about is You know how to tell you about that vision statement to look at the The mob pillow district used to have ends and the good thing about ends was ends or something that the superintendent could use to Kind of bump decisions up against and say, you know, this is driving this prayer. This is driving that prayer This is why we're doing this, you know the and Yeah, I think that's helpful and also, you know, we talk a lot about kind of district values and district vision But point me to it Like we don't have a right. We don't have it there. So You know and and those I think we don't have in our heads an idea what they are. I think because we're relatively like my community We probably all have similar ideas, but You know, I'm really hoping the visioning committee gets us Something, you know, that is on paper. That's agreed to the point to it. So, yeah, when we say values, like This is what we mean, but we're not looking for anything polished by the time of this retreat. No, but I I think I think I'm hoping that we have enough that we can Kind of look at it and and say is this on track? Is this Yeah, maybe let's figure out what our goals are. Yeah, exactly You know and you know, is this the type of thing that we can build goals around as is this going to be helpful for Do we need a bit of a Do we need to nudge it in a certain direction more? So again to be mindful of the the sort of like four hour block of time that we have and I feel like that Time goes by super quickly. Yes. Would it be possible to have the vision committee report out to us like the meeting prior to No, too too tight Like a whole report just sort of like a this is what we're hearing, you know, here's where we're at Preliminary that's possible. Yeah. Yeah Because I think I I don't know if it's the best use of the four hour retreat time to bring To bring the vision committee in to report out to us. No, and I don't think we do that But I think we take what we have and look at it and kind of and I would like to like what we have It would be great to report that out the meeting prior to the retreat instead of reporting it out at the retreat And using some of that because then we could have all of our four hours to sort of talk We could still discuss what was presented to us Anyway, if it's possible And some of that might depend on what we have a retreat to Yeah, we have it may 30th. We might get a very different Yeah, right the answer that we have it, you know, June 20th or June 19th a lot of it Yeah, I wonder for the vision and community It will be helpful, you know part of Part of when when we do State analysis and things is it's making sure To know Which are the voices that we're hearing from, you know, whether or not is is the people that we're getting from the survey We'll have master's degree versus like we are Looking at some of our data population data in the district and seeing the representation from the different pieces that you know, just like thinking about the affinity spaces and how I just want to make sure that when we do come up with a vision that we Feel really confident that we have her from a lot of our folks that Don't necessarily get involved in any of these processes through surveys or Through one that and and and how and I know that, you know, the vision and community is doing a great job But I but that might be a question that maybe we can There might be several questions that we can ask the vision committee to get us there because what I will Be afraid to see is like that we have this great work that doesn't include all the voices and obviously You know, that is generally Right now and call it a lot of people are so burned out, but Yeah, so I just want to make sure that when you know that we're now like looking I was like, look, you know that we are Doing all of our work for our 80 and not for the all the communities that might need a little more support Maybe there's a we can come up with some questions around that for the vision and committees so that we can inform Some of the work that we'll be thinking about in terms of planning and in terms of Fearing out ways to reach out to these communities and and whatnot I'm a guy I can say that right and say g and marix joint Correct me if I'm wrong. Nathan is putting a lot of focus on that work and that's a major Conversation every time we meet as a committee Yeah, well another We might want to do a credit for the suggestion that we talked about a little earlier as well We only do kind of a second long meeting in august And either skip one or both of our july meetings because july is I think one we could use a break into people tend to scatter in july So we could Kind of you know just have a check in on where the visioning committee is As part of that retreat just very shortly a little gut check Use it as a framing for For setting goals and then come back and have a longer meeting in august We're really delving to the what the visioning committee has because hopefully they will Be at a point where they've got something relatively solid I think that that would be a much more productive that would be productive because I think that what's happening is we're gating lots of data and all our energy and effort is going into getting it from as wide a variety of places as we can In person Virtually in every fashion that we can possibly get it trying to figure out even what questions to ask and how to ask them has been evolving um, it's a ton of information and a couple of loose themes are possible by You know may may 30th or whatever, but More than that would be a very difficult I think it's going to take two months just to go through what we've got And we could have something by the end of the summer and That seems very reasonable and helpful. Does anyone not like that suggestion? I think I just fully support the idea of letting that process and really run its course and having as much space and breadth as it needs So that by the time we're really kind of digging into it. It's it's as solid as it's going to get and if that means waiting until august I completely support that And I think loose themes will be very helpful. Yes, so that would be great because the other thing that we're going to know is The places where we need to really work The the the people that are in our community that we haven't heard from as much as we would like to and that is going to be a sort of second effort In addition to what we've done on top to that point. I think So for the one in in june thinking like a four hour If we did say 15 minutes on just a quick check where the loose themes from that From where the vision committee is that maybe an hour and a half or so on on some process issues like the conflict resolution and then Discussing some other just kind of Yeah, maybe going over some of the models that The mod is proposed and to see if there's a process Improvements and then two and a half hours on goal setting. Does that sound roughly like a decent thing for the june meeting I would also like to Toss out the idea of doing some kind of Getting to know each other. Yeah, definitely don't need to Find out if we're beach people or mountain stream people But it is foundational to being able to do our work together. I think to know each other So some time and space for that. Yeah. No, I think that's good and Nathan had some good exercises that he used Yeah, yeah, they were good And who is going to facilitate I'm not sure from you the facilitator Do we want to assign some people to help facilitate some of the sections so that It's not just like let's do this and that way that person can be like, okay You know, we need to get the goals and and just We do need to have some sort of structure about facilitating the process if now we will be there Yeah Yeah, I think if we're going to structure around the committee work We might want to assign like committee chairs to report out and then You know kind of find some way to synthesize the conversation and we could we could look at Getting a facilitator too, although sometimes just when we need to like sit down and set goals and have a You know a real deep conversation about that Sometimes we just need to do that I do like the idea of a facilitator just to keep us on track and Use some you know like kind of keep it lively and maybe peak our Interested attention spans. I don't know. I think I thought it was good with Nathan I mean and I think also if we present sort of a more clear Here's what we want to get out of this meeting. I don't feel like we presented that last time at the retreat So if we're like this is these are our ends for this meeting I think a facilitator would be able to Bring us through that process in a way that might be more Engaging than how we just sort of typically naturally do as a group. Yeah. No, we could definitely look into one I think getting a facilitator that's has some familiarity of the board is going to be able to Get us focused quickly. I don't think you to do it. It's gotta be important But I think there are people yeah, and there also could be like facilitated time and then sort of like We could let that person go and we could have the last hour to ourselves or something Yeah, and we could I mean I I was kind of thinking like we could do Do kind of the getting today exercises for lunch too, which is a good time to Food always helps. Yeah, and that's kind of good unstructured time I think if we write those ideas down if somebody did it about today about like here are some of the themes If we can find a facility, I think like There's a lot of people here capable of Being assigned one piece and make sure that there isn't a goal at the end of that section So So that's like we have a profit, you know something at the end that can then easily be We don't have to wait a long time to get it back. So Okay, excellent. Um Good well, we'll put together a draft and we've got a few meetings and we'll kind of refine it and also Any other questions or comments about retreats Great. Thank you. No, it'll be fun. I look forward to that. I like the August idea as well And are we okay Not meeting in July That sounds good. Yeah, I'm not going anywhere, but we have people coming. Yeah, so that's fine Okay Those aren't out yet anyway, right? No, we're waiting for you. You're waiting for us. You need us In july be and then yeah, you call on us and we will be there Don't call me Committee member Can we make a motion Yeah, my understanding is there is a vacancy of a student role and so I'd like to move that we appoint megavozion as a student representative on the visioning committee I would enthusiastically second that motion Any discussion? What was the favor? You can Jim I have I have a request that's out of order slightly because I came in late But I just wanted to highlight something that was said in the superintendent's report I don't need to edit it or revise it or anything, but I just want to thank liby for highlighting The problem that our community and our schools are facing around rising covid levels and then staffing shortages and Substitute shortages and just want to make sure that it's set out loud on this platform that We really it sounds like we're in a pretty desperate situation for substitutes and that's not a great You know morale booster towards the end of the school year for our dedicated teaching staff that Are struggling to as I understand sort of fill in some of those gaps internally too. Yeah Um, and it doesn't feel right and it doesn't feel fair And I know that we're sort of in this like really challenging place where we just don't it's not like we have a bunch of subs that We just aren't calling. It sounds like we don't have the subs So if anyone is inclined to sign up to be a sub and has the availability that's out there listening on orca You know, it's just um It's not a super complicated process, right? And um, and it's not terrible pay and it's kind of a fun way to spend your day and I know a lot of parents are Desperate to get into the building and would love to like Be in the building for the day. So if you're one of those people then um, maybe consider signing up to be a sub So thank you for highlighting that issue and it's Yeah, I know thanks for bringing that up that minute. It's it's a challenge District and statewide We have solved it. We have figured out for next year We'll take any quarter days That raises a question for me like if you're if you have the level three volunteer you've already done the background check clearance Would you be able to just for no pay? Volunteer to cover a shift if it's just like one ship, you know, like I know that there's sometimes just like One block that needs to be covered or something. Is that something that could it's just parents could help do harder because you you know it usually at You know 645 7 o'clock in the morning. Yeah So it's it'd be difficult to do it that way, but it could right, okay It might be logistical challenges too, right? Might be logistical challenges over there. I kind of get like for one block and Hunting volunteers. Yeah Relatedly the parents group for each of the schools has done a lot of um Stuff this week for teacher appreciation week So thank you. Tell the we did candy today. Yeah, I think for Right You got your mic And Amanda, I hope you feel better and thank you for keeping your germs at home and may you get better soon Thanks, Amanda. Thanks act by Zach. Yeah, by Zach