Okay, so to begin, could you please state your full name? My name is David Boucher from Fort Mackay. And your age? 51. And where were you born? Born and raised in Fort Mackay. And when you were little, what did your parents do? When I was little, my parents used to live off the trapline. That's how they raised us children living off the trapline. And how did you spend your days? I spent my days between the trapline and our time in school. Okay. Any interests, things you knew from the get-go you really like to do as a kid? Well, when I was a kid, what I loved doing at the time was playing hockey, ice-dor hockey. And spending time in the trapline and certainly sometimes in school. Defense where I'm at in the trapline. Okay. And so you mentioned school a couple of times. Were you good at school or were there specific subjects you were particularly good at or you really liked? I was good at math and the thing that was difficult for us at school at the time was spending more time in the trapline than in school. So school was kind of difficult. The choice I had by no choice was out in the trapline. Okay. And so growing up going to school, did you figure what you wanted to do, I guess, with your life? Where you wanted to go? Well, at the time when I was living off the trapline to me, the thing I knew at the time was the trapline. It's nothing out there I was thinking of doing different because I'm just used to living out in the bus and spending some time in Fort Makaya is where my home is. Okay. Besides playing sports like hockey. Okay. You ever think maybe you'd go professional with hockey? I always dreamed to be. Yeah. And as far as I made it in school and hockey was in Fort Makaya because we never had any funding back in the day like we have today. Right. Yeah. Okay. So what would you consider to be your first, I guess your first job or after you finished school what would you say you spent your time doing or your first job? My first job after, well, I lost my father back in 1979. I was only 14 year old and when the school dropped off school, 15 year old grade nine. Then after that I was started working for forestry fighting fires. Tala was 18 year old. Then after I turned 18 year old I got my first job at the plans, Syncrude, as I could not later for Syncrude spend four years working for Syncrude. Okay. And as I actually interviewed the ex CEO of Syncrude, Eric Newell. Yeah. Yeah. So when you first started working for Syncrude, looking back at you ever, I guess there must have already been an existing relationship with the OSN industries or certain companies around here in Fort Makaya? Yeah. When I started Syncrude, I started out in a low level running equipment, then spend four years there for Syncrude, then move on to work for another contractor on Syncrude site. It's a first nation company and worked seven years for them running equipment. Then one day I got an offer a job from Fort Makaya group of companies, the first nations I'm from. They offered me a job as a supervisor looking after one of their jobs. And a new mine is called Albion Sands. Then I worked my way up from there as a supervisor and I managed one of the companies at Albion for Fort Makaya and the civil heavy equipment side of it. We used to do around probably about $15 million a month. I was doing business at Fort Makaya at the Albion site. Okay. And what, I guess, what pushed you to start eventually your own company? After I did 10 years at Fort Makaya, I had my company very small at the time and I had a cousin, a cousin family running my business. Like, I had one piece of equipment.  It started in 97, 98. By 1999, 2000, I had four or five piece of equipment. Then meeting Nicole went in full time with our companies. We had to resign our jobs where we were working for hours with Makaya and Nicole as a sale and run our business 100% in 2004. Then that's where we kind of go to company from when we started our company full time. Now for someone who comes, let's say who's listening to this and is completely outside of Fort Makaya, Fort McMurray, the industry. What does Boucher do? What does your company do? Our company does a lot of civil work. A lot of road maintenance. We're involved in facility maintenance. We have contracts in five different sites like Curl and the CNRL, Suncor Fort Hills, RMWB, the city of Fort McMurray, and Suncor Faribay. Okay. So do you talk about road maintenance? Do you also do seasonal road maintenance like Snell, for example? Yeah, we do a lot of snow removal, all these highways in North here. And I do a lot of road building, ice roads for Sinovus up at Telephone Lake where Sinovus cut onto their plan to build a site up there. So I do their winter drilling roads every year for the last past 10 years. Okay. I saw a sign coming in saying the roads were probably maintained by Boucher. And coming in you could see they're pretty nice. Yeah, pretty nice. I'll sign it, yeah. We'll make sure we take pride in our work, especially when you see the Boucher signs along the highway. And it's our signs that I make sure we deliver the service and keep the road safe. And so that would be seasonal. Do you do also road maintenance? I'm guessing there's massive wear and tear too with these, you know, 400 ton trucks and things like that. Yeah. Do you guys have to do a lot of maintenance in that sense, fixing roads? We do a lot of grading on the plan sites for the rock trucks and graders that travel on the highways and stuff, the heavy haulers. So we maintain the roads on the plan sites and keep it safe there. When it rains or when it's dry, it's always got to be grading. Yeah. And so throughout your career, what would you say has been your most, I guess, the difficult part of it or a difficult project you've worked on? The difficult, probably the difficult part was when we first started our business. I mean, that was tough.   I remember not sleeping for three days at one time because of just trying to be, just trying to be one of the contractor delivery service. I know I'm there on the field. I know the work gets done. I remember one night, I was living in Fort McMurray, driving home from CNRL into Fort McMurray, driving down a highway, it's 100 kilometers speed limit. I was doing only 80, just drained out and tired from working three days straight without sleeping. And I mean, it was very tough. It's tough to run your own business now. Like I said, you got to be part of it. Right. Yeah, for sure. Have you had, now knowing success, looking back, would you consider having had a mentor throughout your life? Well, the mentor for me, it's probably just to see in the past of my parents I was brought up with. My father was 14, see what he'd done in the time. He's a do similar thing, run equipment. My grandparents, hardworking people live off the land, never stop working. That's just the way they live and make money to feed their kids. And to me, I come from a family that's very strong and loves working. And back in those days, we don't have computers like what they have today. So there's no time for sitting in there and playing computer games or telephones or texting stuff that we don't have back in the day. It's just work work. Right. So they taught you a great work ethic. Yeah, even when I was with Fort Macai, a group of companies, I had a guy named Jim Carbree. He was my CEO of the company at Fort Macai. He mentored me very much how to run a business. And he gave me an opportunity to take this ball and run with it. And I had this opportunity to be a mentor for him that gave me a chance. And I used to run a big business for them at Fort Macai. And I'll be inside. Good. You're good? Yeah. Okay, so when you began your career, whether that was, we can even start with firefighting, things like that. But then with the, especially with the oil sands industry, how present or absent were indigenous people in the workplace? And did that change through time? You know, that part is always there. I mean, Fort Macai is in the heart of the oil sands. I mean, after probably the late 80s, trapping kind of went away. And oil sands was there. And there's only way that the people in the community of Fort Macai could feed their children is working in the oil sands. And more people in the community started working in the oil sands just to live their lives in a good way. Because back in the day, it was just only off the land and that kind of went away a bit because of the market of the fur. The market of the fur is not there anymore like it used to be. Yeah, you said it was around the 80s where that kind of changed. It's kind of changed, yeah. Was there a lot of animosity between your first nations and your oil sands industries? Or was it kind of like a good transition? It was a good transition because like our Fort Macai first nation got lots back in the oil sands just to be part of that and working with the oil companies. And everybody went from that source of wind for both sides and gives our community more job opportunities for the people that stays in the community. And did you play a role, I guess this company as well, but did you play a role in linking indigenous communities or groups with specific industries? Well, I was a consular in Fort Macai for eight years and I was involved with other first nations making agreements with Fort Macai, when I was involved with Fort Macai. So yeah, I was involved in quite a bit of that and of course with industry itself. What would you say you're proudest of his work as a counselor? My proudest thing I've done for a consular was growing up as a kid. I used to shovel outdoor arena in Fort Macai, three feet of snow, five o'clock in the morning before school starts at nine with a hand shovel to make sure the arena is clean for the kids that's when school's done at 4.30 everybody just go out and play their hockey game. And my job when I was a consular, my goal was to build indoor arena. And I got that done. I made a consular, let's build arena for Fort Macai. And so we did build arena. Before the arena was built, I myself and the wife of our company we bought a Zamboni for the Macai arena. And we made sure that Zamboni was there before the arena was built so they have Zamboni to work with when the arena is completed. That was my big goal and it was huge for us. Good, good. And as you mentioned, you love hockey as a kid, but there wasn't that much, I guess, support or popularity for it here or money for it. Have you seen it grow? Has there been an uptrend? Yeah, I mean like back in my time in the 70s, 80s there were no funding and no sponsors and I used to just victim hockey gloves with like outdoor gloves. There wasn't hockey gloves because we had no funding. Nobody supported us. Now today I got children and three boys played hockey and all the money, I mean, they have everything they need to play the game and all the sponsors they get and it's different. And I mean, everything changes for a good reason and my kids all went to school, all graduated with three older boys, a daughter and back in my day I didn't have that support so I didn't finish what they finished today but I made sure they all went through school at the time I had no choice not to be in school. Because your father's down there? Yeah. Living off the land is different. Yeah, it takes a lot of hard work at times. Because I mean, if your parents live off in the land you have to go and live with them. It's just the way it is. Back in the day now, I wouldn't see my self and my kids through living off the land because there's nothing there for them now. But we still go out there. I got a cabin north of Fort Maccay. I got a nice cabin in Fort Maccay Reserve and we go there quite a bit and I got a nice fishing company. Yeah, I was going to ask if you still do live off the land a little bit. I still do off the land and so my little eight-year-old what's about and how I was raised up and continue some of that. And where do you live normally? Do you live in Fort Maccay? I got a house in Fort Maccay in Fort Macmary where my kids go to school. And throughout your career have you ever joined any professional organizations? We talked about you being a counselor at Fort Maccay. No, I just sit on boards. Fort Maccay's got about five boards and I sit on about three boards for them. One of them is like Fort Maccay Group Companies and on three other ones are joint ventures. Do you ever think of becoming a counselor again? I think about it and you know it's we're so busy in Boucher what we do and it's very hard to take on two roles and I like to focus 100% in Boucher. Now I'll move on to a few opinion questions. Pretty interesting. So do you believe there's a disconnect between the natural resource world and or industries particularly and indigenous people and how has it changed for the decades if it has or hasn't? To me I don't see it change a whole lot. I mean I know what's all happening around here with the given pipeline and go ahead. To me in the big world is probably the good thing that ever happened. I mean us in Canada we got to move our oil somewhere and if we don't have this pipeline we don't move this oil anywhere and it doesn't make sense as buying oil from some other country that we have here in Canada and to me it's a win-win for everyone. I know it's very tough for us First Nations people especially when something like this with the pipeline going through their lands it's an issue but in the day like we all win out of it. It's a big win. And this is a mouthful question but in your opinion and this could be very broad it could be across Canada but when we talk about this industry whether it's oil sands or mining in your opinion are there any events people, inventions, contributions, disasters anything really that must be mentioned when talking about the history of the natural resources in Canada? No the biggest thing is environment and I know very our industry partners around Makai here have been very good with the environment anything goes wrong or something is going to come up they always give our communities notice if any change is going to be made so in that part we're always aware of what's happening it's not like we don't get surprises So you'd say generally it's affected the countries generally quite in tune with the environment and has that changed your time because that often comes up in my other interviews as well but often the oil sands for example especially the oil sands will get criticized or people picture them as being this very polluting industry which to some extent it is but with time you also hear great innovation and a lot of reducing a lot of things to help the environment more like sync with their buffalos that's a good sign they're reclaiming the land and we have buffalos there that's owned by Port Makai and there's something they're doing there to reclaim the land they're covering it back over whatever they've done there same thing I've seen they've got a man made lake and it's full of fish in there and it's pretty much normal I mean the environment is different systems we have now so the pollution is getting better I know it's probably not the best but it's getting there I know there's going to be more technology coming up and it's going to get better if we go along I asked about the disconnect between Indigenous people and the natural resource industries but this question I asked everybody do you think there's a disconnect between the natural resource industry with Canadian people do you think people understand enough or appreciate enough the natural resources well I think they appreciate enough they could do more I mean the biggest thing is communication with independent people because that's a big thing and the more you give good information to the First Nations people it makes it more better and how they could plan their communities last question and then I'll just finish with a few closing questions how do you see the future of Canada's resources and its relationship with all its people and industry are we on the right track are we doing the right things we're pretty much on the right track like I said earlier the biggest thing is these pipelines we went through two pipelines and one of them came to Morgan and I mean it's it's better to sell our oil and get oil from different countries than we have here in Canada and it's good for our economies jobs and everything that happen in Canada by doing this it draws more jobs for people and of course everybody will have a job it pushes more opportunities and a few closing questions what would you say you're proudest of in life and we can divide that and two we can say proudest of in life and also proudest of professionally well proudest in life is never ever thought in my life would I have a very big successful company as big as this there was never ever my business plan and very proud of what we've done me and my wife we accomplished very good stuff and how many people we employed and feed children, families and all different province and BC and Newfoundland Nova Scotia we employ almost 900 employees and I'm very proud to say that we did good in our lives and how many other families we feed and I'm guessing you mentioned a few east coast provinces I'm from the east coast myself and I know I have a lot of friends who work out west and actually he's from Newfoundland we have a lot of people from Newfoundland and the officer and out in the field so yeah it's great all great people and last thing if you were speaking to someone much younger like a kid or a student what would be the most important life lesson or piece of advice you'd give them moving forward? well to me for example my kids always want to know if they want to when they take the company over to me my take is tough and I wouldn't want to see my kids go through what we went through to run a company like we have today because it's very stressful times are tough at one time and I remember when we had to almost close our doors because we're on red 250,000 because things didn't go right and it's very tough and like to me if I told anybody that wants to run a business they got to put 100% into it not just 20% of it and I mean it's very stressful if you're not part of it that's my opinion to other people that I know there's so many people out there always want to run their own business but it's times could be tough right yeah and I was going to ask you whenever oil like gas gas prices are affected things like that sometimes you'll see job fluctuating in the oil sales industry does that often directly affect you guys or do you still kind of business as usual for you guys we had our ups and downs there's few times when oil prices drop like even in 2008 we felt the pinch we had to lay off some people at the time I mean and everything drops off and the prices drop and of course all our market changes and it's tough when you have to lay off people that's been with you for a while feel it yeah do you have anything else you'd like to add no I hope I'm very part of it I could help out with this interview and it's great well thank you


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What's up, how are you guys today? We're going to touch on a few foods that you can incorporate into your diet to improve the overall quality and I think a year, year and a half ago, we made a video on why organic is important. Explaining the rules and regulations that the USDA has in order to grow organic produce and it basically removes a lot of the negative chemicals. I refer to them as agrochemicals, herbicides, pesticides, fungicides, insecticides, glyphosate, all the stuff they normally spray on the conventional food. That is not allowed when growing organic. Of course, there's still some exceptions and some negative things that can be used, but if your diet isn't already 100% organic, then you can make a lot of improvements. We did another video on meat marketing and explaining why organic meat isn't necessarily the best and that you have to go for quality, but what we're focusing on today is you might be having some organic foods, but they're still downsized with those and homemade alternatives that you can do to mainly reduce the amount of fluoride and toxins that are typically in low quality water as well as increase the freshness and reduce the histamine content of the foods. Let's get a little closer and show you guys some changes I've made recently and over the past few months. I guess we'll start with breakfast and work our way to dinner with steel cut oats. The alternatives to this would be maybe some old fashioned oats that I actually have in my cabinet over here that are processed a little bit differently. You might have some quick oats which I actually have over here too like some of the instant oatmeal and even though all of these things are organic, there's a lot of downsides. What's not so bad is these rolled oats and what they do is they steam these and they press them and they are heated. The concern is that the oats are in contact with a lot more machinery and the cleaning chemicals and stuff they use on that machinery can maybe get on the oats and also the water they're using to clean the machines and the water they're using to steam. Overall, something like rolled oats or quick oats or even these instant oats have that downside whereas the steel cut oats are almost in a more raw form and then you can use your own water and your own cooking methods that you know are not tainted by negative chemicals. Of course, the instant oats also have some additional flavorings and other things that aren't necessarily required to be organic and can kind of skip by the USDA in that regard. We did the overnight oats recipe like a month or two ago now and these actually taste a lot better. If you're not doing this and you're spending five or ten dollars a day or something crazy on glass, bottled mineral water or you're getting well water, you just want to make sure that when you're investing so much time and money into other aspects of your diet that you don't overlook something like that because it's kind of silly to almost throw everything out the window unless you're intentionally doing it by having like a cheat meal. Then for lunch, I'll usually make my own homemade bread. Here we just have a regular organic white flour that is recently milled because flour is like oats too. It starts as like a seed. They call it the wheatberry and it's ground up into flour. If you're buying store bought bread, then usually there's additives and preservatives in it. So that's the main downside. There can also be different types of synthetic vitamin fortifications, especially iron fortification and B vitamins which are very, very bad for your liver and make the bread almost unhealthy regardless of how high quality the flour is or what the fermentation was. So you're avoiding vegetable seed oils, synthetic vitamins, preservatives, and then the bread usually isn't that fresh. On top of all of that, it's very, very difficult to find a bakery that actually uses high quality organic flour and then when you're able to use your own mineral water or filtered water at home, you know, you're not getting a giant dose of fluoride with all of these breads. You know, regardless of even if it's like bread alone sourdough bread, which is a pretty good brand we have here in New York that's naturally fermented, you know, the only ingredients are flour, salt, and water. They're still using fluoridated tap water probably when they make the bread. So regardless of how good the bread is made if you're buying it somewhere else, you still have the water concern, so you kind of have to make it yourself. You know, we did a few recipes on bread over the past few months as well, but that's another major improvement that I've done to my diet to just reduce that water concern. And then for dinner we have the next three things. So instead of having canned beans like these organic butter beans here, I started buying the raw organic cannellini beans and similar concerns that I've said about the past two things. You know, what type of water are they using to cook the beans with? What type of water is in this can? Are they cooking it in the can? What chemicals and toxins are in the can lining?  Is that causing digestive issues? There's so many negative things. You know, is it so heated that the beans have broken down and they're not as effective for digestion? It's not as good for you. It's really hard to justify having a food like this or buying store-bought bread every day or having quick oats every meal. Look, it's okay if like once in a while, once a month, a few times a month that, you know, you don't have time and you use something like this or the quick oats, but if you're gonna have a food in your diet consistently every day like I do, you want to make sure it's as high quality as possible. So what I do is, we do have these beans on my Amazon shop as well as most of this other stuff and we should have the the rest of the stuff on Frankie's syringe foods, but I'll soak these overnight in bottled water and then I'll cook them in the Instant Pot the next day for just an hour.  Obviously, you can't always get past the packaging they come in and they're they're very fresh. So minimal cooking time. And these noodles, I guess the main thing to touch on is that most pasta, durum wheat, all the noodles you're eating, it's not that great for the liver. You know, these are the least inflammatory noodles I have found. So when you're going, when you're looking through pasta, all that stuff, this is made from, I don't think it even says it on here. Yeah, because it just says organic wheat flour and water, but you can tell by the color and the taste of these noodles that this is whole red winter wheat, which is basically just regular white flour. So it's basically a clean slate of noodles that I can add like my bean sauce to and some more fiber to. I mean, to sum it up quickly, I was eating all these other pastas, which wasn't actually allowing me to detox my liver because of certain negative things in them. So if you guys do want to have noodles in your diet for me, this is the only real option.   So pay attention. And then if you do notice a problem like that, try to look into, you know, what is the entire composition of this wheat? Is there a vitamin? Is there a chemical? Is there an anti-nutrient or something in it that I'm getting too much of? So very important to keep in mind. So the last thing to touch on is this artichokes spread. And you guys have seen, we've done the whole artichokes as well to put in my pasta sauce. We should have this on Frankie's Surrange Foods this week if you guys want to get your hands on it because you can't really buy it anywhere, as it is one of the highest quality jarred products I've come across. It's organic. It's in glass and it has no preservatives in it. You know, it's just artichokes, some olive oil and some seasonings. And that's very significant compared to, you know, something like this or a regular jarred artichoke product is going to have just water, citric acid, a lot of negative things. And plus this tastes a whole lot better. So for the most part, any sort of canned or jarred product, you can usually find a very, very high quality alternative.  And that's the difference between something that you don't really want to have in your diet that frequently versus something you can have every day on a consistent basis. Yeah. So these are some relatively recent changes I've made in my diet to increase the overall quality. And we should be getting a hair mineral analysis in a few weeks. So I guess we can check if like my arsenic intake has lowered or mercury or if any of the toxic metals have gone down slightly. But I have been feeling a bit better and that's the main metric to go by. So we do have a few of these on my Amazon shop. And as I've said several times, we should have this jarred stuff on Frankie Syrian Foods relatively soon. So I'll probably announce that in a different video. But as always, thank you guys for joining me. You can go to frank-to-found.com to check out all of my businesses, especially Frankie Syrian Meat. One thing on there is, you know, I've been having the beef stock instead of the collage and broth lately, which is just a slight vitamin difference thing. Not really something I wanted to touch on here. Frankie Syrian Foods, all the other health products. We have the sourdough starter, if you like to make your own bread. But you guys can see all the other businesses on frank-to-found.com. If you guys could please drop a like on the video, leave a comment down below. Make sure to subscribe and check that notification bell. And I'll see you guys soon.


Hi, I'm Denchie and in today's video, we're going to be talking about an operating system that is almost entirely written in Rust called Redox OS. This is their website, there's not really much to this besides links to the GitLab and releases and that kind of stuff, along with this nice little screenshot of a GUI. That's what really caught my attention when I first saw this. So if you don't know what Rust is, it's a programming language that's supposedly memory safe. If I remember well, it's developed by Mozilla, but I may not be 100% right about that. And essentially to a lot of people, it's sort of their superior version of go or C despite go also being memory safe. So the motive behind making something like Redox OS besides reworking the idea of Unix, which as you well know, is what operating systems like GNU linux and BSD are sort of all about. They're trying to be like Unix. This is trying to be like Unix but have features like a microkernel. So over here, microkernel design, so the kernel is very, very small, not monolithic. The idea behind all of this is just right at all in Rust. So it's memory safe for security reasons, among other things, supposedly. You can read more about it in the documentation. But in today's video, I've actually pulled up a VM of Redox OS. So here we are with a VM of Redox operating system. I set it to the full resolution on my screen, so it looks like I'm running enough hardware. And that's an interesting thing about Redox operating system because it actually can run on some real hardware, which is very impressive for something that's essentially written from scratch. I mean, that is highly impressive. Anyway, so the username over here is root and the password is, well, password, at least for the default installation. It did take a while. Just note this, that I didn't download an ISO for this. I compiled it all from source, which takes a while compiling Rust from source. I think it'd be the same with other operating systems. I've never compiled many operating systems from source, but I did have to compile it. So there's always that. Anyway, okay, so as you can see now that we're in, we now have a nice little graphical desktop over here. I'm going to take a look at all the included programs. There's not a whole lot to Redox operating system. The first thing that pops out is the web browser. That's probably one very interesting part of the operating system because having an entire web browser work on an operating system that you made, that is quite impressive. And as you can see over here, it does work. The window sizing is a bit odd, but this is the Redox OS website. It does look a bit weird. I'm going to go to my website to see if maybe it looks a little better. I'm just going to delete this. You can tell this entire web browser is very, very basic. Not many features here. So let's see if my website loads and it does. My website does have a background. Yeah, there it is. And HTML5 video, but I don't think this supports HTML5 video. So it's not really loading. Maybe you'll try a bit of a more complex page. I'll try something like my image board. So chan.denshi.live. Hopefully it can load that. And if not, then I don't know. OK, so it can load it, but it's having a bit of trouble with this CSS, as you can see. So it's not entirely functional, but the general stuff is there. The image board information is there. So you wouldn't be able to do anything complex like watch YouTube videos or something on this, but you can access basic HTML websites and have them semi-work sometimes. Anyway, so that was that. The terminal emulator is interesting because it uses a shell called ion over here. Local share ion. So I believe it's similar to fish. It's not POSIX compliant, which some people may not like. Ah, you can zoom into the terminal emulator. That's that's quite nice. All right, let's try doing something you can do in fish or with some kind of autocomplete thing. So let's try going to the root directory, maybe Etsy or something. Then if you run it again, yeah, as you can see, it has autocompletion like fish. So that's some of the features it has. I believe it has some other cool features you can take a look at. There's not much besides just a few basic configuration files and .confeg in the .local folder, which, you know, is good because it's quite minimalist. Anyway, let's take a look at the file manager. Oh, that's a that is a very minimalist file manager. I'm a fan of that. And it even opens up the text editor. Look at that. I guess that's a text editor.  It looks like a regular UNIX system. Everything you sort of expect is here. We already took a look at the text editor. It's very rudimentary. You know, I got basic functionality. It's not exactly super impressive, just a text editor. Let's take a look at the calculator. Well, that is a calculator, very minimalist. Once again, just, you know, got basic operations, that kind of thing. All right, calendar. This probably gets a little bit more complex. Oh, it's taking a while to look. Oh, here we are. I'm interested in seeing what kind of like kind of graphics or what kind of like UI tool set or whatever they're using for this. I can't really recognize this directly from just this. It's probably made by them or it's something with Rust, this UI toolkit that they're using here. Because everything looks consistent and it's probably themeable or something. So the viewer, I'm assuming this is for viewing images and it only views one and that's the background up PNG. I don't think the web browser supports download so we can't really download anything. And I'm assuming that's the character map and it's got, well, those are characters indeed. That is a character map. I'm trying to look for anything more that I could possibly do. I believe we can download some stuff in the terminal but I don't think there actually is any form of like proper package manager. You're just meant to clone everything or download everything and compile it from source although I'm not entirely sure about that. If we list our bin directory, maybe we'll find some weird commands to take a look at it. As you can see, it's quite minimalist. They do include screen fetch. I don't really know why but they have that by default. So that's fun. I hope you enjoyed this short little video about Redox operating system. I'm sorry, I couldn't really find a lot of stuff to talk about on this but as you can see, it works in virtual machines and it's impressive because it can work on some real hardware. I hope you enjoyed this video. Goodbye.


Welcome to this session on our shared research data management project or initiative that we're embarking on at JISC. I'm Rachel Bruce, Deputy Chief Innovation Officer from JISC, and what I will do is I will start off by telling you what JISC is because we're an organisation in the UK and some of you may not be aware of the sort of remit that we have and then I'll also outline some of the context in terms of the research data policy within the UK and some of the drivers which are encouraging our universities to look at research data management solutions from an institutional perspective rather than a disciplinary perspective. And then I shall outline where we are with our initiative in terms of developing a shared research data management service and some of you might say at the end of it when you hear it, is that a shared service Rachel? And let's say this is exploratory, okay, so we'll see where we get to. Okay, so what is JISC? We are an organisation that serves all of the higher education institutions within the UK and also the further education and skills providers. We're a not-for-profit and it says we provide digital services and solutions but take solutions in quite a broad sense, so that might include exploratory work and change initiatives in terms of working with new information or ICT challenges and opportunities with the sector. And the three things that we do, so we deliver shared digital infrastructure and services, so for example we deliver the network, the equivalent to internet 2 in the UK and we also provide a lot of services which are what you might call digital library services, so quite similar to things like the California digital library delivers. Then we also undertake negotiation and I suppose sometimes some consensus building and influencing with products such as software, cloud provision and also of course access to academic content, so we undertake the negotiations for journals within the UK for all of the universities and also the research councils. And then there's advice and guidance, so that advice and guidance can include all sorts of things such as advice around legal issues for information or technology, advice around the adoption of e-portfolios and it goes on, so basically anything to do with information and digital technology and its influence and adoption in education and research. So for some of those that have been aware of GISC before we have undergone a reorganisation, so gosh it's taken a while, so maybe four years ago we were not legal entity and now we are a legal entity and all of our different services are served more holistically as one under a single governance. So our vision and mission, which I won't read out to you apart from I will read out the vision, it makes me quite scared actually to make the UK the most digitally advanced education and research nation in the world. So it's quite a challenge and aspiration but I think that's about really keeping us focused on making sure that we are delivering solutions. Hello Peter, hello. So I talked about, mentioned there the way in which we've been redesigned and reorganised and one of the things that we have looked at is how we can in the current economic climate deliver more focused research and development and innovation activity. So previously we used to have a lot of grant funding that was thousand flower bloom sort of thing whereas now we've got this process which is called co-design where we work very closely with sector representatives to identify the key areas in which we should focus all of our R&D or innovation activity. So these logos here represent the six areas that we are currently focused on within research and development and the shared research data management service falls under research at risk but just to give you a flavour of some of the sorts of other activities. So in terms of learning analytics, so universities and colleges wanted to work with us. I think in two aspects around learning analytics. So one was really just a community of practice, sharing lessons, trying to understand how to implement learning analytics. So there's been a lot of work around consent issues and ethical issues but then also to trial some of the solutions. So we have now got a shared data management, sorry shared data warehouse for the sector and we've also got two analytics engines. One that is a proprietary commercial solution and the other an open source tools so people have options and then we're working with the community that's been built to identify new areas and to do some R&D and develop new analytics tools and that's obviously all around supporting the student experience. And it's proving quite popular, a little bit too popular actually. So I think there's about 60 universities which want to work with us in terms of using the developing shared services and we're having to manage that demand. So we'll see how that goes but those are the sorts of things that we've been doing in our research and development portfolio. So going back to research data management and the policy landscape in the UK. So there has been a lot of work from the research councils around research data management for many years. So we have seven research councils in the UK that cover different disciplinary areas and obviously for a time there's been quite substantial provision around social science data and earth and environmental science data. But in terms of the drive towards improved research integrity and efficiency in the reuse agenda, back in 2011 the research councils, the whole seven of them, their umbrella organisation is RCUK, published their principles for research data management and of course these are quite similar to the sorts of policies and principles that you see in the US. So the belief that research data are public good and should be openly available with as few restrictions as possible and all of the things that come with that in terms of management making sure that data is discoverable but also respecting some of the restraints that there might be in terms of privacy and sensitive data and commercial collaboration. And then the right of first use to the originator of that data. And I've highlighted sharing is not free because and as I think was highlighted at the round table this morning that was held that funding and costing for research data management is a significant issue. And obviously in this the funders were making an expression in terms of the way in which their policies actually support research data management in the grant application process but that's not the whole story and so there is quite a big issue in terms of sustaining research data management. And then something in terms of the UK landscape and some of the top down I suppose drivers I think this is quite an important report or the output of an inquiry really it was held by the Royal Society and I don't think open was in the title of the activity at first. So there was anticipation in terms of what would the Royal Society come up with when they started to look at the way in which science and research should be undertaken and perhaps change taking into account technologies in the digital environment. And it came up with it was it was an extremely thorough piece of work. A lot of people were consulted and it came up with quite a bold assertion about research data being made free and open access. But there was quite a nuanced approach from this so they talked about intelligent openness and intelligent openness means understanding that you have to do things to make data accessible and usable. And then also here as you'll see there was this expression about making data usable and accessible for other specialists in the same or linked fields. So that's not to say that there isn't an aspiration to make data available and accessible to all but it's recognising that actually first and foremost because there are many different things which need to be undertaken to make data shareable and reusable. Your probably primary audience is actually making sure that your peers and others within your discipline or linked disciplines have access to that data. So it was quite a nuanced approach but it was quite bold and Professor Geoffrey Bolton who oversaw this I mean he says on occasion that if you do not make your data openly available then it's tantamount to scientific malpractice so he's quoted quite a lot in terms of saying that. And then just I suppose to go a little bit wider afield and also to outline something which I think is quite aspirational and very ambitious and bold which is in the European Commission is now taking forward something which they have termed the European Open Science Cloud. And the definition of that Open Science Cloud is up for discussion at the moment and there are particular groups working on what that really means and giving further advice to the European Commission. Cloud is perhaps a bit confusing because it doesn't necessarily mean cloud technology. It really is about a more transparent and joined up research infrastructure and is about sharing data across borders so it's part and parcel of their digital single market initiative. And overall looking at as highlighted here removing the technical and legal barriers to sharing of data is ambitious in terms of it actually aspires to look at private and public actors within that space. And also to try and coordinate the member state research infrastructure with the European infrastructure because clearly there are shared infrastructures across Europe as well as member states having the infrastructures that they provide. And also looking at disciplinary infrastructures so a big issue is going to be governance around this and it's early days we expect a communication to come out in March and that communication will only be the start of development really. However just to point to some of the policy landscape that we are looking to respond to so of course something which we again at the round table was said quite a lot so we don't really have many incentives in terms of researchers sharing research data and this piece of work that was undertaken by medical research funders and also social science research funders concluded again that you know there is little formal recognition for data outputs and this seems to be quite a big problem in you know we've got all the mandate saying let's make data open but we don't really have the incentives in the system. And in particular within the UK environment is the research excellence framework because we have this dual support system and the outputs of research are evaluated via this process and whilst data is recognised as a research output in that process it goes towards things like innovative research environment so it's not weighted in the same way as a publication. However the people that oversee that have to make sure that they have a policy really that's I suppose in tune with the majority of people and so at the moment recognising data and promoting data within that process is perhaps over and above what can realistically be achieved but they're consulting on that. So going back to why universities are seeking shared research data management services is we may not have many carrots but we certainly have quite a big stick in the UK and this has been in the form of the EPSRC so the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council's policy which has been a mandate which has changed certainly from our research funders the perspective in terms of the responsibility for research data management so the responsibility actually being that of the university or the research organisation. So the research organisation needing to make sure that its researchers are aware of the policies actually also provide training and provide access to the tools and the infrastructure in order for them to make sure that they can manage their data and make it accessible. And then this final one at the bottom securely preserved for a minimum of 10 years from last use that's caused quite a lot of discussion I think on two counts because universities are not sure how to define the point of last use and also they don't necessarily have the infrastructure in place to make sure that data is preserved. So that's been quite a challenge I think at first this policy was rolled out so it's first announced in 2011 and then universities were given a period of time to develop a roadmap in terms of how they were going to meet this and then it was from the first of May this year that the mandate was in place. And there's been a change in the mood I think during that time so at first throwing hands up in the air then anxiety and now I think actually there's a change in terms of universities are seeing this as an opportunity to steward their digital assets and have actually looked to respond to this mandate also looking at how they can respond to the curation and sharing of data across different disciplines. So there's definitely and the other thing that that mandate has done is it's obviously put research data management on the top table within universities and so that's quite a change. You do now actually have Vice Chancellor's talking about it so an example of that is there's just recently been this open research data concord app that has been which was spurred on by that mandate so again because of some of the anxiety it was an expression between research funders and universities to say okay we all aspire to sharing our data but we know it's a journey and we need to accept that this is a journey that will have this shared statement and I know in discussions of the open research data concord app Vice Chancellor's have said okay that's fair enough but we want the solution so can we actually address this and how. So what we have is obviously fairly small sector in comparison to your own where we have a number of organisations let's say 150 rounds it up that actually need to make sure they have a research data management solution in place and they have been working on that but there are different rates of progress it's certainly very fragmented a lot of the small specialist institutions don't have the capability to provide services and again those sorts of factors I think when we were consulting around what to do with research data management the most common thing that was said was we really don't want all to be doing this on our own we need to be able to share lessons. So this shows this was a poll taken by the digital curation centre at a workshop it is a while ago but I still think it's quite a good indicator of progress so on the left hand side you've got the key elements required in order to provide a research data management service so all the way down from your policy and strategy to data management plans and then the skills and training access and storage management and cataloging and publishing and preservation and the red is actually implementation so you can see that I think overall I'm trying to remember I think this came from about 40 universities represented in this poll and it was 2014 I think things have progressed since then but it shows you that things are really quite immature in terms of having a sustainable research data management infrastructure and a lot of the blue is really just thinking about things so down at preservation you know there's a lot of thinking business planning and sustainability there's a lot of thinking but there isn't much implementation at this point in time and then some surveys that have been undertaken so really the point of this is just to show that at the moment the well it shows the storage capacity and it shows that in about three years time people are anticipating quite an increase in terms of the amount of data that they'll need to deal with to store so all of this obviously means that people are keen to share experiences and share services so we have tried to devise a way in which we can try and address that at a national level and going back to research at risk so when this consultation in terms of where JISC's funding for development should be focused was undertaken this was how the stakeholders expressed what they wanted us to address so realising a robust and sustainable research data management infrastructure and then I think if you look at the success criteria there a cost effective national brokered infrastructure as a service perhaps more aspirational things such as research outputs will be more discoverable and reusable fewer impediments to doing research but then research data management is business as usual so again quite ambitious when you're thinking about how mature the landscape is so in order to try and address that we have undertaken some analysis but one of the first things because it was quite difficult for people to identify what it is they wanted to share so one of the first things we did was to try and define the architecture for research data management obviously based on a lot of practice that had been undertaken so I should credit here Stuart Lewis at the University of Edinburgh and also another Lewis John Lewis at the University of Sheffield who had done quite a lot of work previously and so this draws from that and other activities so going from your data management planning activities to active research data management and then moving into the area where you are ingesting data for publication so storage for access if you like and then storage for preservation and then on the far right hand side showing that you need to link into other services national and international and that middle top quadrant is the research information management system which has become a critical piece of institutional infrastructure and of course you do see a blurring between the repository infrastructure and the research information management infrastructure so we use that as a basis to talk to institutions to see where it was we should try and tackle shared services at first and this shows the areas that we will prioritise so that pink section which if you like is the section which will enable institutions to meet their fund mandates so going from data management outside of active data management so where you are ingesting the data into a repository and then moving into preservation and storage but in all of that there is other activity which has indicated here so of course the digital curation centres data management planning service also we have some agreements and services around the storage end so we have a framework agreement with archiving which gives three copies of data and one of those copies is in escrow and also agreements with cloud providers so in terms of the active part of our research data management service where we are going to try and develop new services it is that data publishing and archiving and preservation but we do have other elements which we will be trying to link into and link up to so the process I have gone through the fact that obviously we have gathered requirements what we are now doing now is identifying the pilot institutions to work with because in order for this to work obviously we need to have some testing with different types of institutions and we are undertaking it is a procurement process mainly to commission different providers commercial providers maybe community initiatives can also bid to the procurement universities can bid to the procurement or development groups there is going to be a lot of orchestration between these different groups and then over a 24 month period we will undertake the development hopefully launch a beta service and then we will work on well we will be working on this all the way along the business plan in terms of making a fully robust and sustainable service hopefully in that 24 month time. Some of the key features in terms of the things that people really want the GISC shared service to start to address for them so the user experience people seem to think that that's pretty poor at the moment and so by working together can we try and address the user experience some of the products obviously that are available are really quite strong in that area but there are some products that are used around this area which are quite popular within the UK but the user experience is not optimal and then one of the biggest things that has come up has been preservation in absolutely every discussion that we have had whether it's a workshop a survey a one to one interview preservation has come up as the key gap an issue that people want us to try and address and primarily that's because they haven't got onto it yet themselves down at the local institutional level and so we I mentioned we've got the agreement with archiven but this is really talking about preservation where you've got the tools in place to make sure that you're developing the appropriate metadata and also you know the archival information packages and dealing with processes of transformation and migration and we also have introduced into our requirements emulation and that may be quite ambitious I think our preservation requirements are quite ambitious we're going to have quite a lot of R&D I think in that space so then the other key issue that people see as something to work on through the shared services is interoperability so I mentioned the current research information management systems being a key system within institutions again there are some issues around some of those actually having APIs in place to integrate with some of the other systems around research data management so that will be one of the key areas that hopefully if we work collectively we can do more efficiently together and then there's also interoperability with other infrastructures and initiatives so open air over there on the right hand side that is European infrastructure for open access outputs and also supporting the horizon 2020 data pilot so making sure whatever we develop for this research data management service actually supports the standards to talk to other infrastructures around research data management and then obviously key things like orchid and data site so the moving on from that so those were the three main things so summarized here in terms of our vision so trying to address researchers needs making sure they don't need to think too much about research data management and I think some of that is trying to make sure that we have a way in which metadata can be captured easily and just enough to make this happen and then also the interoperable issue and of course preservation I really couldn't believe actually how much preservation came up and it seemed to be such an issue that at one point we thought okay we need to do some more exploratory work on that but then we've decided to just be bold and put it into our shared service requirement and go for it and see where we go so just to show how the research data management activity links to some other bits of work which are going on in the UK to support research data management so there are a couple of things so we have been developing a service around research data discovery that's based on CCAN and at the moment it's harvesting data from 14 universities and five disciplinary research data centres there is also now the UK Orchid Consortium which the research councils also signed up to I think two weeks ago and there are 50 universities that have joined the UK Orchid Consortium and so around that there will also be some additional development in terms of integrating orchid into different systems we're also at the moment we've got a prototype usage statistic service so I mentioned the fact that universities are not sure what the last point of access is so we're doing some work around usage and what usage means and we've got I think 15 universities that are working with us on that prototype work around policies as well and then the digital curation centres DMP online so those are other core activities that are not being taken forward as part and parcel of that shared service but run alongside it and we will work with those and as far as possible they will be joined up and then there's a set of other activities which are more about advice and guidance and this issue of costing will be an initiative we need to take forward there's been quite a lot of work in the UK around trying to understand the cost of data and also how it can be supported within grants but there's more to be done there and something we want to be able to do so we've had a small grant funding programme called Research Data Spring which has really been very small amounts of funding and has brought together publishers and universities and other stakeholders just to work on small innovations together so where we can pick up some of those outputs it would be quite nice to build them into the shared service and one in particular is called giving researchers credit for their data and that's a collaboration between F1000 and the University of Oxford and they've developed a tool in a protocol which allows you to easily publish a data paper direct from the repository so that's quite interesting so it would be quite nice if we could pick up on some of those features as well and then very briefly just to say that clearly there are another set of services that support open access and you can see some parallels in terms of discovery policy analysis such as the Sherpa services I think quite a lot of people use the Sherpa services and as far as possible we'll be looking to join up what we do within the research data shared service with those as well so this represents the sort of key layers in terms of what we need from the user interface down to the preservation layer and we have now developed the requirements in quite a lot of detail but at the moment the process that has gone out is just the pre qualification questionnaire but these are the eight lots that we have decided we need to focus on to develop the shared service that as I say addresses the core components to meet the fund mandate so a couple there I'm just thinking research data repository speaks for itself but the things like the research data exchange interface so that's looking at ingest and bulk upload and migration we've added an R&D strand this came in quite late after consultation with universities on this research information and administration systems integrations and that's primarily because of the concerns that people seem to have around interoperability with those so we'll see what happens there I don't know I'm hoping that some of the vendors will come into the initiative and through it we will support them to develop their APIs so hopefully it's a win-win but you know we shall see if they don't come into it then we'll have to find other ways to deal with the problem and then around research data so preservation so the provision of a platform but as I said we will have to look I think at development so that lot six around preservation development and tools so trying again to build in some R&D around new file formats updating some of the open source registries that are available and then something the research data reporting this is actually to build a dashboard across the research data services which would report on performance but also things such as volume perhaps the compliance with policies so we want to undertake that as we go and there's already been some developments in that space but this is really about trying to provide a national service and I imagine we will try and have more of a local reporting as well as shared UK reporting across the service so it is quite ambitious and some of the things that we need to address here and why I say you know is it a shared service or isn't it because clearly universities have said they want a more flexible approach so we would expect for example that we don't just serve one type of research data repository that they should probably be two or three options to be able to deal with the different requirements and also I suppose where universities are in terms of implementing their infrastructure and also we need to be able to deliver the services I suppose as a multi-tenanted hosting option to make sure as well the institutional branding is hosted so I think through the two years we'll be really deciding or finding out exactly where the sharing is but trying to support a flexible approach so that institutions that only need part of the solution can take the bits that they might want so it is going to be quite a lot of coordination today was the closing date for our expressions of interest from institutions I can say before I flew out here we had enough institutions that expressed interest were okay and it is a real mix so we've got some medical institutions, arts institutions, we've got research intensive institutions and also some which have more of a teaching portfolio we'll have to try and work out how we select the optimal number and group and it's really going to be about testing the different sort of cases the sorts of things which they have said they're interested in I've mentioned most of these already but there was quite a lot again about preservation but no there was a lot that came up around sharing and developing practice so people really want to be able to share and see this as an opportunity there was a bit about moving to centralised services and as I say that would be something that would be tested and then there were more edge cases like automation with elab notebooks and clearly what we're doing at the moment would deal more with small and medium sized data and not necessarily big data so we're going to have to start looking at that further down the line so that is about where we are in terms of taking forward this shared service and yeah so I don't know questions or also it would be interesting to hear from you about your experiences and in particular as you might have guessed preservation but also there is a real issue in terms of engaging researchers so it would be interesting to know what people are doing in that space thank you


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It's 85 and I thought it was five. It's my mistake still big card trailance prodigy RPA NFC West MOD sorry for the Jersey number incorrect call there 85 and 99 prodigy RPA Lance that looks like it's also a number patch Congrats NFC West great box ammo Get that one eggs what a what a nine in the box. Yeah I'll let Blake hop in for this one. Let's go Blake pull some for these kids. I did good I did get on the basketball treasures. Let's see if I can do good on the football treasure show Don't worry about sleeping Like this, I would probably set it down like set the box down flip it and then hold it For those slider here. Yeah Dude you get caught on camera. It's over. Yeah Thankfully, thankfully early season. It's okay Remember you take the cards out. Huh save that like that. Yep. Yeah Like that and before you go through when you're done make sure you show the empty box when you get through all the cards We're starting off with what are these called? I like midnight midnight black acetate that is gross Jalen hurts For the eagle. Oh, this is by division. So I got NFC east. Yeah, okay. I'm gonna try to though I'm gonna try to that is nasty the midnight there. Oh Treasured moments out of 99 Kyler Murray For the NFC West Yeah, they do Complete come back with hail Murray Hail Murray. Is that what they called it? That's what they called it. I don't remember that. That's a cool card though We have for the NFC East Right. Yep See me for Hoco and Micah Parsons on the dual patch. Nice Nice one for the Cowboys Yeah Coming in for the long stints and we have for the AFC East Patriots Damien Harris Out of ten on the century materials, I believe it's called. Yeah, nice. I Like the foil on that a ton. That's cool. Ooh nice patches here. Oh the Dwayne Eskridge for the NFC West West so bad That's gross one thing I love about Seahawks patches is that that's like that patch. Yeah, that just always looks good. Oh For the AFC South at a 99 Trevor Lawrence on the franchise treasures patch auto No, no, oh, I'm sorry on the franchise patch Not autographed, but that's cool with the the logo in the back. I like that card Yeah rookie is this last year's right? 2021 crossover crossover RPA Tyler Johnson on a one two three four five colored patch Don't think I've ever seen that many colors in a patch before it's only the bucks that really can do that Yeah, right. That's kind of nasty. I like that Prime that's that not current bucks that's great. Yeah at a 99 And we have for the NFC West La Rams Eric Dickerson. Yeah, that's a legend right there. Oh, yeah, big time. That's gross The screech on my neck. Yeah. Oh my god. You guys who said that I'm sure people would buy into it. Oh, yeah, these fools would 100% they would scratch. Oh, wow. That's nasty for the NFC North Going out to the pack out of 25 Air Rogers patch auto Boom, let's go. That is nasty. That's Kyle S. Congrats Kyle. That is sick. That's sick man. Is that a Player worn Yeah, that's sick though out of 25 for the pack And Closing it out. We got out of 99 for the AFC or NFC east south NFC south Ian book on the what do you call these rick and materials and rick and materials signatures, right? Yeah Nice book All right, second box. I'm a Whole one myself Illegal baseball right start the first inning they come in to close. Yeah You're like sale when he comes in in the ninth We need him Hopefully you've all he comes back soon been rehabbing I've seen He did oh I think I think Caleb gave it to me. I ain't see the card though. I can I ex PSA 10 bang Wow, that is pretty. That's his favorite. Yeah The person breaking looks like Kenny Pickett Blake looks like Kenny Pickett I Yeah, I think I kind of do it when I saw Lane break with them. I think I saw some ladies This was what's it called midnight, right? Midnight. Yeah, we got a midnight on the Sam Darnolda 20 for the NFC south Panthers Panthers Panthers NFC south. That's sick. I love the midnight. I might have to pick myself up a Mack Jones midnight Actually, that's probably crazy Actually Mac might have gone down a little bit in price We got I wouldn't say quite for the Broncos At a 99 John L. Way AFC West Nice L. Way, and that's like just the acetate, right? Yeah, normal normal and all the bases here at acetate, which I love. Oh, that's awesome. Oh It's just like that for basketball, too, right? Yeah, should be for like the first card or whatever it was like that We got for the Cowboys AFC East Charles Haley at a 99 on the patch heirlooms, I'm assuming NFC NFC's gosh So bad Got For the AFC North JK Dobbins on the Sunday treasures once that's cool. Hold that card there.  Wow, that's a really cool There we go NFL gear combo materials damn arena to a tag of I loa. Let's go dolphins. Nice one AFC East. That's sick Two of your legend quarterbacks right there. That's right future legend. Yeah, we got For the AFC East again Yeah, that's a nice pass Tremendous treasures Michael Carter rookie. That's sick. That's three color patch That's cool.  That's all you click on the Richard Simmons link. You got a book. We got rookie prime signatures I'm sorry rookie jumbo prime signatures Javante Williams That is sweet Wow, nice one AFC West that is sick That's awesome. Yeah, these those those patch books are crazy cool Out of 99 for the AFC West We have for who's this? NFC South NFC South Field pass national treasures terrace Marshall Jr. Love the field pass. Those look so cool. So did this year. Hey, that looks awesome looking card. Yeah Find affordable one for me. Yeah, I didn't I've never seen him one in person before it's like a picture except like super high quality Yeah, and then the signal on the bottom in the black. That looks awesome Really like that field pass nice. That's a legend right there. That is a absolute legend. Yeah, absolutely Caleb's boy going out to the AFC North right you know AFC North Joe Thomas auto at a 25 Nice one Yeah, that's sweet for the browns games record or something. Yeah most games ever played in a row Most snap most most that it's like it snaps.  He just like never ever got out of the game Ended it off with my boy At a 99 going out to the AFC East Mac Jones, boom Sick hits. What do you call these crossover crossover? RPA or colors for color on the Mac That is pretty Bernard H. Congrats Bernard. He's my boy Mac Jones Yeah, that was really nice. That was a really nice two box stand thing Better than my basketball for sure Niggas carded reporting basketball is that awesome redemption? Yeah, I want to see that thing live. Yeah All right guys a little bit of a thickie here To close it out one more NT case next and personals everybody Still some of the personals Still some got midnight for the NFC South. It's DJ more 17 of 20 And Lamar Jackson 15 of 99 AFC North Jersey card AFC West Austin Echler 91 of 99 century materials Field passes so nice Jersey card Earl Campbell 10 of 25 AFC South that goes Titans AFC South Earl Campbell player one Probably hard to track down He was inducted in 91. What do you play like the 70s? Yeah crazy Tremendous treasures three-color patch Joe burrow. That's sick 25 and 25 AFC North Cuz it's late Got a rookie dual Jersey Devontae Smith Jalen waddle that's NFC and AFC East so NFC Devontae AFC waddle NFC is NFC's or an AFC's Bernard. That's a random at the end 1299 Gold RPA Kellan Mond 2 out of 10 NFC North There you go NFC North That mag brie Kyle. Yeah NFC North again true RPA. I'm in Ross St. Brown Big hit there he looked great again He had a great rookie season like fantastic last Sunday Lions are gonna surprise some people this year Golf is overhated and Swift and St. Brown and Chark and Hawkinson a lot of like underrated players And like hated on players pretty solid their defense is gonna be a question, but Nice St. Brown Yeah, so if there's a beast That's nice There you go AFC West Phillip Rivers auto 35 o 49 Yes, and the last card of the break is the first card stamped of the Najee Harris rookie Jumbo signatures.   There you go AFC North Hang why? Beautiful passion, right? Let's do that Random and then we'll recap That was a really good case Yeah, dude anytime like rich said If you're coming up here to rip anything, let me know I live closer than you do Yeah, yeah lock this guy out please Escort him out Shawn Eagles dolphins on the random here Devontae Smith Jalen waddle. Good luck A5 There was a top gets it five times one two three four and five this one's going to the Eagles Eagles get it Oh the recap Eagles on that one. All right relics first Eagles got the dual Smith and waddle got jumbo patch burrow over the AFC North Jersey card Earl Campbell AFC South AFC West Austin Eckler to 99 AFC East Michael Carter to 99 dual relic AFC East Tua and Dan Marino AFC North JK Dobbins to 99 NFC East Charles Haley AFC South Trevor Lawrence and NFC West Wayne Eskridge a few more relics here AFC East Damien Harris NFC East for Hoco and Parsons NFC East Micah Parsons again Tua for the AFC East Dundre Swift patch 8 of 10 for the NFC North and Jersey card NFC West Eric Dickerson That was our good friend Blake Blake Lubea. He's He's semi-local, but he's a pitcher in the in the Red Sox system Currently. Yeah, he's also just like our friend Got a Philip Rivers AFC West auto nice one there AFC North Joe Thomas NFC South was a field past Harris Marshall, Jr. Ricky material signatures Ian book NFC South Eric Dickerson NFC West Tyler Johnson NFC South crossover RPA from 2020 Jersey Audit Terry McLauren NFC East AFC North Demetric Felton Ricky Otto We had two rookie jumbo prime signatures booklets Javan table aims to 99 Broncos and Najee Harris wanted 99 Steelers Yeah, yeah Got true RPA almond Ross St. Brown Congrats NFC North Gold RPA two of 10 Callum on NFC North crossover RPA Mack Jones AFC East 65 of 99 a patch auto Aaron Rodgers 5 of 25 for the Packers a RPA three of five Niners trace sermon NFC West and NFC West against trail ants prodigy RPA 85 of 99 Very very good case. Thanks again everybody one more coming up