i Rubin thank you both very much for being with us this evening a difficult evening for the state of Israel but we appreciate your time nevertheless thank you and I want to cross now to our correspondent Nicole Zedeck who is at the moment in Rehovot in the central city that was hit earlier and Nicole what updates can you give us a fatality several injured what can you tell us from the ground exactly that's exactly what we're hearing right now Batya one fatality and I want to let you hear it from the people themselves who do have the updates exactly at this hour what can you tell us about the new information I'm with Lieutenant Colonel Khecht and D&L's done with the Israeli police and the IDF what can you tell us right now a tragic evening we're here at the city of Rehovot where there was a direct hit on a building we have one casualty and four people injured I just looked at the details of how many launches have been into Israel as we speak more than 800 rockets fire the Israel we are dealing with a terrorist organization Islamic jihad who are firing sporadically at civilians and we are focusing only on their targets and during a situation like this how do these different security forces the IDF, Israeli police, even the fire and rescue how do you guys all work together in a situation like this so my friend here D&L we've been cooperating since the Ramadan if you look at the context of this event this has been kicked off already for a few weeks all the time in trying to say the narrative and explain to the international world what's happening here in Israel I'll tell you at the end of the day we have the same goal it's to defend our citizens and it's to protect everybody that's living here we're under attack from a terrorist organization you see right now they shot rockets indiscriminately into a residential area hitting a residential building one of the victims is a fatality and we're asking the public and the journalists away from naming names because we don't want this to be the way that families find out that their loved one was a victim of a terror attack what can we expect going forward through the night I see still there are teams currently in the building behind us any updates as far as the damage to the building and if we expect it to collapse so right now that we have our home front command the general was just here there was a full assessment our search and rescue warriors are here in the building if it's a threat and if it's unsafe to be there we'll know more as the evening goes ahead as far as any precautions that the citizens need to take I know it's not just here in central Israel it's all throughout Israel what do they need to know going into the night time and the overnight hours tonight so we're telling our civilians first of all we have faith in all of our security forces the IDF and the security forces are doing their job to protect us and here on the inside of Israel the home front command as well as the police stay close to protected areas such as bomb shelters stay clear from rocket impact sites you have nothing to find there the police EOD the bomb squad they're working diligently to clear the site to sterilize so that first responders can get in and make sure that any of the explosives that have landed the rockets have landed are not still alive and can injure anybody thank you guys so much for making sure keeping everyone safe thank you for these updates and as you know you are keeping people safe there's a lot of anxiety here that we are saying many residents even many of them seeking medical treatment because of the anxiety they are feeling and so I feel like for the international community to realize that as well as the injuries the casualties the fatalities it's also taking a major toll on people's mental health right now so there's a tragedy on both sides I mean we're not fighting against the Palestinian people and when we target Islamic, jihadists in Gaza we go for a specific target trying to minimize damage here we have organizations just fighting sporadically to kill any Jew they can it's important to understand that and what we're seeing right now is our iron dome has been doing a fantastic job but when it gets saturated an event like this can happen so people have to protect themselves thank you guys so much for this update as you guys can see here on the ground we do have all of our the different forces the different security forces working together right now evaluating the situation continuing to evaluate the situation as we do go into these overnight hours but right now the message is clear continue to listen to the Israeli home front command continue to listen to authorities and make sure that going into these overnight hours you do get these alerts on your phone in case anything does happen as we do go to sleep tonight Nikol Zedek live for us there as you mentioned on the alerts we are seeing that there have been red alert sirens of incoming rockets in the south in Ashkelon as well as in the border communities and we're now seeing more pushes coming through as well that more rockets are being fired at the moment into the Gaza envelope area we want to thank our viewers again for making sure to tune into our special coverage here on i24 news of operation shield and arrow be sure to continue following the updates on our website at i24news.tv and right here live on TV if you could travel to the Middle East right now without packing and without a plane ticket would you we are in Tel Aviv Israel welcome to i24 news digital we bring Israel and the entire Middle East right to your social networks on your phone on your desktop here i24 news creates videos especially made for social media and believe me we are out there working hard right here in Nepal is how they begin making original content streaming live even in the hard moments they're literally rockets flying off in a bomb shelter and filming docuseries with us you will find all the big stories you 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1932 my father and his father in law bought the oven because this place was small they used to prepare the dough at home and bring it here to bake over time the place has grown into what it is today as a child I used to come here and learn the job from my grandfather and father until it became my profession I've been working here for over 30 years and now so do my children my secret to success is loving what you do the recipe is not the most important thing you have to feel the dough between your fingers to determine if it's made well it's something about the feeling the heart I really don't know how to explain the test here on I-24 news operation shield and arrow a dramatic escalation this evening endless barrages of rockets fired from the Gaza Strip towards Israel south and center several direct hits one on a residential building in the central city of Rehobot one person killed several others wounded another person injured in an attack on the south meanwhile the IDF as a nation top Islamic jihad commanders persist to senior officials targeted Thursday the hope for an Egyptian mediated ceasefire with the help of Hamas seem to be diminishing by the minutes really this hour Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister you have gotten convening the top brass of the security echelon for an assessment of the current state of affairs of the military headquarters in Tel Aviv with a senior official vowing it will not go unanswered the storm before the calm or just the beginning as always when it comes to the Gaza Strip how it starts you never know how it ends I-24 news teams are on the ground to bring us all the latest developments and here with us in studio for all the analysis and insight strategic analyst Elton Connell in the reserve Dr. Moshe Ben David chairman of the Jerusalem Development Fund Summer Sinjilawi and former senior staffer at the US Congress Dr. Fadi Smail research fellow at the International Institute for Counterterrorism but before we begin here's what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wanted to say earlier today take a listen we will continue to act in defense and offence until the end of the campaign and I want to thank the soldiers who are doing sacred work here to protect our skies and our citizens and I ask you the citizens to continue to help us protect you follow the instructions of the Home Front command and together we will win let's cross now live to the southern city of the I-24 news correspondent Pierre Kloeschendler sending by their pier you've been down south since the operation began 24 hours ago it felt like the swan song if you will now different sentiments what's the current situation well there are interceptions but not on the road particularly but around the road and we can see them and that adds stress on the people because on the road itself there's been five servos teams no casualties but four houses and public buildings who got it erected and there's another one now that one of the rockets we saw rockets toward Ashkelon and this one we don't know exactly where it's going but we haven't heard the red alert loudspeaker calling us, warning us so we suppose it's toward Ashkelon and not toward here but we're surrounded by rocket fire we could say from the west from the north from the south we hear some explosions or roar of planes and I want to talk about the stress that people here are enduring and I'm next to Ayelet Shmuel she's the head of the international center there is another one we gotta go we gotta go yes this is Wendy the reality there down south throughout recent days you can clearly see the interception you see early you see the shrapnels falling and that's also one of the things which are stressful because those shrapnels can be deadly from the interception of an anti-missile missile to a rocket it's very difficult another one is coming up there's two more there's two more yes and this debris you were talking about a heavy barrage on Israel south a heavy barrage on in Zerot and in Ashkelon here and in the communities along the Israel Gaza border yet another heavy barrage of rockets into Israel south you can clearly see the interceptions in the skies there and the shrapnel the debris Pierre Gulsandler I was talking about is precisely why the home front command guidelines instruct citizens to remain in shelter for several minutes after the red alert is being heard to avoid any injuries in the aftermath excuse me of such barrages for news Pierre yes can we talk to Ayelet where she's the head of the international resilience center as long as we don't have a rocket alert Ayelet is just next to me we're gonna can we talk to her or do we don't have time this time please Pierre until they will stop us go ahead okay Ayelet Ayelet is exporting the knowledge that Israel has accumulated to countries like Ukraine to the US but there is obviously a lot of work here regarding resilience Ayelet tell me what what do you do here in Zerot people are in stress you know metal bars are falling and your heart jumps right so it's called hyper vigilance which means that you're going into survival mode and then your whole body goes into stress mode and that's where people are experiencing all the heart palpitation right and the whole body kind of stresses out in this city we have a resilience center it's an amazing resilience center takes care of people we have a lot of intervention teams that go on site and help people we have hotlines that are open the whole construction or the whole network in this city is based on helping the community and helping people to deal with all the peaks of stress that we're seeing like right now when we see these rockets right we're seeing it right here and the noise makes people jump right and the sites are very difficult but the idea is that first a lot of people here are very resilient they know what to do they know how to calm down their families and their kids and we are here knowing all this stuff so we have people and we have workers and volunteers all over the city that are giving us eyes on the population so we know where we need to go we knock on almost every door thank you very much Ayala I'm sorry we are in very particular circumstances be safe thank you very much yes and this resilience this resilience she mentioned is a double end swords so to speak and we will have more in that later on in the broadcast on the news correspondent take care much more from Pierre later on this evening crossing now live to another dramatic arena this evening the central city of Holvautad 24 news correspondent Nicole Setic there on the ground Nicole you arrived there short hours ago a direct hit at a residential building the images really speak for themselves one person was killed several others what can you tell us exactly I feel like those images really do speak for themselves and the energy out here the atmosphere it is one of tense this and one of really anxiety from what we're hearing from the residents I want you to see just really the up close that we are seeing right now of this direct hit to this residential building in fact authorities, search and rescue teams the home front command is still evaluating this residential building because they are worried there is the possibility it was hit so badly it could collapse so they made sure to evacuate everyone there from there and right now they're continuing to evaluate the situation you can see just how really crowded and hectic it is out here with so many different authorities we have fire and rescue we have medics we have paramedics we have search and rescue teams Israeli police IDF it's really all hands on deck situation right now and the residents in the area are very you know scared after such as attack here in central Israel this isn't something that we'll stop you for a second because there is a fresh round of red alert in central Israel in the central cities of Holon and we see on actually we're sitting here in the studios of I-24 news at the Jaffa port and from the studios we could just hear a boom the exception probably right here the very center of Israel not far away from where you're at Nicole so as you were saying the home front comments evaluating the situation there what are the instructions for citizens in central cities not just down south yes actually I just you can see I'm putting my helmet on right now we did hear those eruptions as well and we got the alerts as well and we are now being told to evacuate kind of get away from this area right now so you can see really a tense situation and right now you just really have to listen to the authorities that's the main message right now Nicole you and the rest of the I-24 news crew there take care and we'll get back to you later on in the show here with us in the studio Lieutenant Colonel under Moshe Bendavid, Samar Sanjilawi Dr. Fadi Ismail thank you gentlemen very much for joining us Dr. Bendavid I do want to begin with you what we're seeing in recent hours is precisely precisely what Israel wanted to avoid I'm not sure about it really not necessarily no I think that Iran is building sort of a wall around Israel and Israel is trying to dismantle this wall Jihad is part of this wall not a big stone but part of this wall and Israel used the opportunity the current opportunity to you know dismantle that wall so to my best understanding I think that Israel will not hold its weapons and its attack until the Jihad Islamic what they call Jihad al-Islamia will kneel and ask for you know and that was more or less the situation 24 hours ago or let me rephrase it Israel wanted to conclude this round last night and with every minute passing there's more to lose so to speak by these scenes that we're seeing what Israel needs to do at this point in time Dr. Ismail to circle back to the power balance of last night well prescription I'm you know years since I was in a political staff that had in the policy staffs that we had to figure out so not turning back the time but advancing forward since I have a philosopher here can we step into the same river twice I don't think so not the same river not the same stepper so now things change all the time we do have a change right now something happened the Palestinian P.I.J in this round by the way it's the third round under the command of Nakhali who is the current leader of P.I.J it's actually the first time there's so much in the front and that does something psychologically people don't realize but in a way if the intent was to bring down P.I.J I think Israel is done in a way maybe deliberately the opposite think about this now the message to both organizations Hamas and P.I.J is hey you can we're treating you seriously and you can be also there the sponsor Iran who says hey to each one of them we have an alternative we always talk about Iran as if the relationship between it and those forces as if it is smooth and everything is fine and they just no it isn't there are also some tensions there and it's interesting I sometimes say that in this particular moment is almost like an intersection of interest between Israel and Iran to maintain two forces in Gaza that can be competitive to each other although Hamas says yes we have one command center the official states Hamas say we share the battle also in the field and so on and so on but really there is some internal dynamic that people don't pay enough attention to I don't think that respectively Colonel I don't think that this round is weakening P.I.J I think it does exactly the opposite and maybe deliver but again maybe deliver that could be the case I don't see I don't feel looking at how they talk to each other looking into the what's up group so I don't feel a sense of weakness there they are excited in a sense in a wartime sense not happy excited you know they are in a jet and adrenaline rush and I don't feel them breaking at all I would suggest if you want to be more cavalistic I would suggest that Hamas in Israel are cooperating to weaken Jihad that's exactly what happens I mean if Hamas had any interest you know to sustain or to back up Jihad it would do it long ago so think Jihad is threatening the authority of Hamas and since Hamas is controlling Hamas they have I mean it's for their benefit that Jihad is is being bitten and you know is channeled to its place being you know the little and quite which needs to be tell what I've read Mr. Scherchach is Dr. Scherchach's book I've seen a few conversations with Nachali himself the way they think I'm not sure they're not going to be able to spin this in their own favor and we will we will dive in further into the quote-unquote victorious image the PIJ needs in order to conclude this round from their standpoint but Mr. Sinjilawi speaking about this distinction between Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad something Israel has been emphasizing time and again our issue is vis-a-vis the PIJ Hamas and yet only short days ago Hamas was blamed for inciting terror in the West Bank for being responsible for this string of attacks against Israelis how come Hamas is all of a sudden quote-unquote kosher and in this respect is the fact and befitting our concept of a philosophical conversation tonight the fact that Hamas stayed out until this point in time does mean that it will continue referring at David Hume of course well I think Hamas is using the tools of the master since Netanyahu is playing some kind of strategic game with Hamas keeping them in power surviving so as to weaken Abbas now they are signaling to him let's talk a little bit about the day after Abbas we will prove to you that we are committed to whatever we say we control things and if we succeed in our relation here in Gaza let's expand it to the West Bank this could be some kind of undeclared communication between the leadership of Hamas they are very much opportunistic the Hamas they know how to use circumstances and to ride the waves but let me say some general comments he mentioned about it's a war against Iran we keep listening to this, Israelis talk a lot about Iran and by the end of the day they attack civilians in Gaza hit Iran if they are your fears the source of the security problems for Israel now yes Iran is existing if you drive your car from Beirut to Damascus to Baghdad to Iran whatever you stop you will talk Persian with people there they bought real estate they are now building a railway yes Iran is controlling you and you are hitting civilians killing kids in Gaza in their bedrooms and you are expecting to be heroes this is the source of weakness if you are a strong powerful military country here in the region you want to prove your leadership with the absence of the Americans prove it the Arabs built a lot of hopes on you when they signed the Abraham Accords and now they discovered that the Americans are really doing anything against the Iranians that's why they are getting them into bed that's why now Mohammad Ben Salman said that the Iranian president is more dangerous than Hitler now he is inviting him to Riyadh without interrupting you I'd like to make a few small facts first for most we are not rocketing us from among the civilians namely from his point of view civilians are his shelter whereas when we want to respond we need to pick pinpoint and try to discover exactly where Abu Emo or Abu Dunya is hiding in order not to hit his family while they are trying no no no you don't know but two days ago before he was hidden in his bunker it was impossible to hit him in his bunker he did not take his four years old kid it was sleeping in her bed but at the same time at the same time he shot rockets towards my grandchildren and maybe even to yours I mean if his rockets would reach the Palestinian Authority then your grandchildren would be or your children would hurt as well the first time in the last years where terrorist organization I'm reminding you the GRD was outlawed in all the European including the USA and his and his militants are imprisoned even in the Palestinian Authority not only the just if you allow me to conclude just to end few years ago the coalition launched an attack on ISIS in order to annihilate ISIS you remember well what happened in Damascus in Raqqa in Azor they murdered thousands of simple and innocent people who murdered and the Englishman and the French and the Jordanians and the Arab Saudis who supported them that was the price of annihilating ISIS that was the price we are very careful and we are very sorrow when we are hitting civilians I mean gentlemen we will continue our discussion in a split second I promise you that but we do want to cross now our live to our correspondents in Tel Aviv standing by for us Pia short moments ago Red Alerts adjacent central cities the cities of Hulon and Hulon Hulon and Tel Aviv on high alert as well as it is Thursday night usually a very busy one in the streets of Tel Aviv what can you tell us and he also under these circumstance that it is a very busy Thursday night people are out and about standing here in front of a very popular restaurant in the middle of Tel Aviv people decided to come out today to have drinks to meet their friends to go out for a nice dinner here in Tel Aviv you have about one and a half minutes in case of an alert you are right just a couple of minutes ago there were sirens in Hulon very close to here in fact we heard one of the interceptions there have been also two alerts in the city yesterday and there are recurring threats by Palestinians you had to specifically hurt the residents here of Tel Aviv and I am here with Ron resident Iran who decided to come out tonight despite of the security situation a couple of hours ago a directed one person was killed sirens in surrounding areas aren't you scared why did you decide to come out today despite everything ok so actually I have only heard about it like 15 minutes ago about the casualty and record because I didn't listen to the news too often but it's not that we are used to the situation but life goes on and people in Israel they are constantly sad occurrences obviously I am very sad about the situation also for the Israeli side and also for the Palestinian side but you know life goes on and we are used to it now yesterday there were two alerts here in the city take us through what you did in these situations so actually I was working at this time and I am working at the tallest being in Tel Aviv so I actually saw the rockets flying just above our office and everybody was panicking so as I and like as I said we are quite used to this situation I mean this is disturbing at all times but again life goes on we have to deal with this situation on a daily basis not on a daily basis but when it happens it's on a daily basis but we hold tight thank you very much Eran and this is basically what a lot of Tel Avivians who are out and about tonight think not far from here in the Palka Yakan in the north of the city a concert of the Israeli very popular artist Aviv Geffen is taking place with about 40,000 people attending that concert that has received a permission to take place as it was planned by the Israeli home front command in case of an alert these several thousand people are advised to lay on the ground and protect their heads with their hands because of course within one and a half minutes 40,000 people would not make it to a shelter in the rest of the city the public shelters are open of course as well as a lot might also happen tonight here in the city as of now everything looks like a normal first day night and this is the way Tel Avivians usually deal with the situations you feel quite disconnected from the areas in the south there when you feel the atmosphere here really abnormal normal if you will Pia Stakl Bacha in Tel Aviv thank you very much for this back here with our panel in studio Dr. Moshe Ben-David Mr. Samir Sinjulaoui and Dr. Fadi Ismail gentlemen let's stay on the Palestinian side of things if you will the the comeback of the targeted assassinations what are the pros and cons here who isn't it one head of snake after the other who is calling the shots at this point in time when it comes to PIAJ after this string of officials that have been assassinated so the question who is calling the shots on the Palestinian side well I assume they have a chain of command well Mr. Nakhala is still in command he's still there I mean he's not in Gaza but he is clearly the head of the organization chain of command underneath him so the idea that because some officer was taken out of the picture there's always somebody else so I don't see that they have a pretty good command structure in place we have to remember this is the third time Ziyad Nakhala is commanding of confrontation with Israel since 2018 he took I think it was to command in 2018 it's the third time he is facing Israel so he has already some experience also worked before with Ushala and others I mean he is a very, very experienced person I think he is honest I think his people don't pay attention to him enough I think he is underestimated I've seen enough speeches with him the man knows what he is doing from his standpoint so he's probably have all the contingencies in place the Palestinian picture in general we have somebody who is much more qualified to talk about it than I do but it is really a labyrinth if you look at the whole if we talk in terms of game theory they have such a labyrinth of interests that are not black and white I mean for example Israel wants Hamas in place but not too strong for that purpose they need PIJ in place but not too Palestinian authority is not very friendly with Hamas but on the other side not also PIJ they become too strong because PIJ has a very strong stronghold in the West Bank we have to speak the Genine area is a stronghold for PIJ they can cause a lot of trouble there so I assume from the standpoint of the Palestinian authority and I'm not qualified somebody is more qualified than me I think they don't want them to go up too I mean there is a whole labyrinth it's a very gentle balance now we put in the internal political structure and then the super powers and then the general picture Ibrahim of course all of that it's like we can I wish I had a board here to draw all of these connections I'm not sure it would clear the map the secluded map to begin with we need a super computer for that like the ones we have in Pentecost maybe next time you're in studio I would refer to that with your permission namely asymmetric wall is the toughest wall that the western world has encountered during the last 100 years it has to do with the fact that asymmetric wall is based on the idea that the so called weak are enabled to do whatever they want to shoot from shelters sheltered by children and wives and elders in order to kill the other size population from that point of view the more civilians which are being killed during the prevention of these attacks might eventually benefit them because they are gaining the support of the western world who watches the event from the scenes and is always supporting the weak from our point of view we haven't found neither us nor the Americans not others in the world have found any way to face or to combat that way of war what else can you do and the better you protect your citizens you have to shelter your citizens you have to avoid and we are very sorry colonel in the IDF sir I want to tell you frankly that I'm very sorry about those children who were killed but we want to do something I mean we want to stop them and we can't stop them eventually I mean what we can do is just delay you know and not let them accomplish all the plans once you are as you said you are hitting the snake's head then it takes time until they resume the chain of command and they are coming back to the force and that's what we can do unfortunately well before we continue our conversation gentlemen I would suggest a tiny bit of optimism if you will amidst all the chaos optimism with a grain of salt to an extent last night in one of many barrages of rockets towards the Israel south directed to the house in the area of Ashkelon the scope and scale of the damage as you can see now on screen to property makes it very clear what would have happened should the home owner 79 year old Miriam Karan was not following the home for command guidelines take a listen I think that in every home today in the state of Israel there should be a shelter because you may think no one holds for us no one knows we live now and the damage relates to property that's it I survived today and that's what matters thank you you see this vase flew out of my workshop it's my ceramics a remnant and Miriam Karan is one of many elderly residents of Israel southern communities who are on the one hand used to this surreal reality deeming you need to rush to shelter only a few seconds to do so and at some times and on the other hand can you really get used to that so in a bid to offer both physical and not less important mental security the Levganim literally a home in the central coastal city of Natania is offering to host any older resident who want a home away from home until a calm is restored before we speak to the CEO of Levganim here's one of their tenants Edna Press inviting her fellow young at heart Israelis for a quieter weekend to our friends that live in the surrounding area of Gaza where the security situation is a bit shaky we're inviting you to come stay with us at Levganim the most welcoming place you could come to in Natania so that you can relax and be with peace of mind with us so let's speak now to Yossi Kaplan the CEO of Levganim was also the chair of the association the umbrella organization of all elderly facilities here in Israel Mr Kaplan thank you so very much for joining us today you've already been down south personally bringing some of those elder residents into your home it may sound like a no brainer why wouldn't one prefer peace over war but for those resilient southern citizens it's not a needed decision to make to leave their homes especially not the older generation no it's not an easy it's not an easy step to leave your home and move to places might help you feel a little secure but the situation is very very complicated first of all I want to say that it's not only Levganim I want to thank all my colleagues that joined me and our association and opened their homes at their hearts and were prepared to host exactly to host elderly from the south living under missiles attack in these times are having a very hard attack on their homes and they're open their homes and host elderlies in their independent homes the situation is complicated the elderly used to his bad use to his surrounding area they find it very hard to leave their homes I myself was born in the south my mom is living in the south and she lives in seven kilometers from Gaza Strip she was under attacked many times and whenever I call her and ask her to come to my home to her net to her you know she's her surrounding and what we did we just called social services in Marzai Zaviteshko we, it's me and my colleagues in the association and we open our homes and host elderly who wants to leave their homes for as long as they need to relax and find a shelter place when we're talking about the elderly the reality of being on alert and rushing to shelter in a matter of seconds danger as on their way to shelter they're facing both physical and mental risks tell us more and also what the government can do to help yeah, first of all most of the elderly who lives in those places they don't have sheltered in their homes even if they'll try to run they don't have a place to run most of them live in old areas and apartments the government didn't build shelters in all the surrounding of you live more than 7 kilometers and I think that the government should do much more in that point of sheltered the homes of the elderly especially the elderly they cannot run to a shelter the risk of fall and break their legs it's a matter of life so most of them maybe move to a secure area in their homes but they don't go to shelters if they don't have it in their homes and it's a very complicated situation the risk of falls in elderly is a matter of life and should be high on the agenda of the government unfortunately I'm saying ahead of the next round not a matter of if but the matter of when we have thank you so very much for this interview and for your work I would like to thank all my colleagues and all of them thank you very much thank you very much Mr Kaplan for this back with our panel here in studio gentlemen we paused our conversation talking about what's happening PIJ let's talk about Hamas to an extent enabling aggression vis-à-vis Israel on the one hand on the other hand enjoying the fruits if you will of previous ceasefire agreements and this is facilitated by Israel Dr. Bendevid I'd say that you know Hamas I believe that Mr. Sinjalawi would agree with me to a certain extent is a mutual enemy of the Palestinian authority in Israel they are fighting to capture the West Bank and take control and due to the PLO what they have done in 2005 namely big massacre and they treated your activist in a very very murderous manner I mean Hamas is I think Hamas is trying to build to sustain his force to build Hamastan and to find an opportunity to make you know by lips and bounds capture the West Bank and take control of the Palestinian authority so that's what they are doing from that point of view the weakening of Jihad are like what Mr. Fadi have just said I think he serves their cause and that's why they are looking from aside watching what happens on the scene and they'll intervene when they want one point they are focusing on the mosque what Hamas is focusing on the mosque within few days there's going to be a flag march and if that's not going to pass quietly they might draw from the hip and do something unless that would happen I guess that they'll stand aside and watch what happens to that point Mr. Sinjalawi short term rather okay long term what is Israel gaining from the differentiation between Hamas and Islamic Jihad the West Bank and Gaza sleep gentlemen let me just know to our viewers we are showing now images from shopping mall in the central city of Batiam few kilometers away from the I-24 studios here a direct hit at the shopping mall in the central coastal city of Batiam heavy barrages of rockets that passed hours towards Israel south and center with several direct hits please Mr. Sinjalawi continue there is no military solution to this situation Israel could try another 60 years the only way out of this situation is negotiations it's political Israel need to accept the fact that it cannot control millions of Palestinians against the rule but there were so many attempts Mr. Sinjalawi if there were 100 attempts we should do 101 I'm not responsible on why the negotiation fell between Arafat and Huda Barak and why did it fell between Abbas and I want to try again with whoever wants to try now there is a new generation now a new Palestinian generation that thinks differently talk to the Israeli differently with his views is fresh enough to try he's irrelevant we should start with the Palestinian elections that Israel prevented we should start with it but you didn't permit the election Abbas supported by Nader Erdogan the head of the Shin Bet visited him at his home 29 days before he could roll elections but he's afraid that Hamas will take control I want to reply to some of your questions Hamas is not our enemy Hamas won the election in 2006 and we did not allow them to roll it's a big strategic mistake of Fatih at that time Hamas should have been given 4 years of government they won democratic elections that Jimmy Carter witnessed and he was the head of the observation team at that time it was Bush if I'm not mistaken he was the head of the American supervising team he came as an ex president we have so many failed past negotiations to address and more recently the failed context to reach about a breakthrough in ceasefire we will get back to that in a split second but the apiracal Chandler in the southern city of Delot still sending by there Pierre since the last time we spoke ongoing barrages of rockets non-stop really but since we've spoken actually there was no barrage of rockets over that city particularly but around the city yes what can I tell you it's a tough situation for the people you remember we spoke with the head of a resilient center in Delot and she explained that there is a whole network of employees and volunteers that are coming from house to house in order to check the people their mental state their mental condition and basically trying to help those people to cope with this immense stress that the people are grappling with at this moment now they've been four houses hit with a direct impact in Delot there's been a house hit in Kfar Maimon which is just nearby where a foreign worker was moderately wounded in Delot there are no casualties only damages to buildings but given that there's been also an organized campaign in the whole area to evacuate some people and if there's no victims in those buildings that were hit probably because these buildings were unoccupied because the people went to more peaceful places such as the Dead Sea in order to cope with the stress and in order to protect themselves Yes and Pierre briefly before you we let you go you've been there it's not your first rodeo so to speak they're down south and in recent days since this operation it was launched there was a sense of slight satisfaction I would even dare to say on behalf of Israel Southern residents that Israel is being proactive not just reacting to what is coming out of the Gaza Strip and yet the current state of affairs is that still the sentiment there? I think yes they take immense pride in the fact that Israel has been proactive in the initiative on the other hand there's the realization that this is only one round in a long cycle of violence that has been going on for 22 years in Zderot particularly so there's no real way out of that right now but still if Israel is proactive they're ready to endure I would say Pierre Kulchenler, high 24 news correspondent in the southern city of Zderot thank you very much for this much more from Pierre on high 24 news of course back here with our panel Dr. Ismail as we've been saying not the first rodeo in this respect from your understanding of the dynamics of ceasefire negotiations mediated by the Egyptians of course but Hamas also getting very much hands on when it comes to try and restore calm how can Israeli PIJ get back on track and what track would that be track of a ceasefire let me put it this way everybody now and the cousin are intervening everybody in their own way I can imagine the phone lines I can imagine the emails flying between everybody the Egyptians as usual are in the front but you mentioned Qatar there's Iran there's powers that have something to say as well so at this point there's a tactical situation everybody's trying to get the best pictures that they can get for themselves and the thing is how fast will the world intervene and it's interesting how slow it is this time notice that we barely hearing anything I mean yeah statement from here to there but it is really slow I mean it's like except for the Egyptians it's publicly we're not hearing any statements of outrage really big ones we'll just call upon the parties to sit down and avoid and escalate and that kind of diplomatic speech means I have no I'm not interested it's almost I'm not interested so how do you explain that Biden this of giving the rope for somebody to just entangle themselves in it there's a problem between the Biden administration and the current cabinet we know that and when people say well why do the Americans intervene in 100% of the cases and I know that for an absolute fact and I don't care who says otherwise every time that the people here want why America intervened and stopped us from doing something in all cases it was the Israelis who asked the Americans to intervene publicly and this perceived extended credit or leeway Israel is being granted it's not in its favor I'm gonna say not something that many people will be upset with but it's true that very soon the Israeli government will wish for the Americans to start screaming so that they can say oh those damn Americans have stopped them again and the worst thing that can happen to in this situation when you locked in that it's almost like a trench warfare now it's not still we're still not in a case of what do you call it it's not really war what you have now it's like more of a in this situation you want somebody from the outside to come and pick it out get you out of it and Netanyahu needs to be able to say they forced us to stop but also the other side the worst thing that can happen when you're caught up like this handle it on your own they will give you a couple of days to do this at the end it starts shifting the balance here but notice until now we're not hearing any cries in international there's no United Nations intervention the ambassadors are very quiet I'm still waiting for them to talk nobody's saying anything I'd like to comment on that I disagree with you sir I think the world views Hamas as a much more responsible organization with a responsibility to the the Dawa for their population and in contradiction to that they look at the Jihad as a real troublemaker they're not worried about weakening the but again this image of a responsible adult and a bad boy somewhat serving all those involved we will continue from this point exactly in the central city where a short hours ago a direct hit in a residential building killing one person and during several others and they call since then another round of rockets towards Israel's central cities what can you tell us absolutely in fact that another round of rockets we did hear those explosions overhead here in Rehoboth and it's leaving citizens residents here definitely on edge as they just begin to clean up from the first attack that hit this residential building right behind me really quickly I want you to see just the damage left behind here as authorities continue to look make sure for the final time that no one is left inside the building make sure kind of still looking at the structural integrity of the building to make sure that if anyone is in there they get out as soon as possible and see exactly when residents might be able to return to their home right now the street is really covered in debris and so right now you can kind of see some of the dirt behind me as they do begin to clean up the street and now I did speak to the deputy mayor in Rehoboth and he said that right now even with all of these cleanup efforts it's going to take a long time for the residents to mentally get over this because schools will be closed in the city tomorrow giving residents really a time to just kind of take in everything that has happened today and could continue to happen in the next over following hours. Nicole Tateca, 24 News correspondent thank you very much for this gentlemen we are nearing the end of our discussion Dr. Ben-David where are we heading next how do you understand the current you know Nils Bohr the Nobel winner said that prediction is quite hard especially when you want to predict the future so I don't know exactly but I assume that Israel I mean from the Israeli point of view there is an opportunity as I mentioned earlier to bring the Jihad Islamic to his knees and make him think twice or maybe three times the next time they are prepared to launch something against Israel with regard to what happens in the West Bank to their supporters in the West Bank etc so Israel taking into consideration the fact that the world is not intervening the Arab not only the world the Arab world itself the Jihad Islamic is outlawed even in many Arabic countries so it's a very good opportunity from the Israel point of view to knock the head to the wall as much as possible from the Jihad I think they want to bring some some trophy just present hope we stand a long battle against Israel and we have done it they don't need too much just to demonstrate one of those killed citizens might be enough maybe two but and they would they would say that's enough with us so these are the two points and I don't exactly don't know exactly how it's going to end Mr. Sinjolawi was the equation as it is being dubbed on the Israeli side was it indeed changed the operational the intelligence capabilities of Israel demonstrated very clearly without a doubt on the tactical level but in terms of deterrence is it enough to change the reality vis-à-vis the Gaza Strip 60 years of same strategy proved that no it's not enough but I think who initiated this escalation escalation because I believe we are now in the middle of the Third Intifada and the Third Intifada is a series of waves of escalation between Gaza and Israel and a continuous attacks in the West Bank this is the Third Intifada we are in the middle of it since long time but who initiated this is Israel by letting Adnan Khadr die in the prison and they know that this is a sensitive issue I don't believe that Netanyahu needs to cut this short I think he wants to make it go on until the after the day after the flag parades because why to do now a short break and then he knows that there will be escalation let's do whatever we can do now it's boiling let's try to hit as much as we can from our targets list and then there will be escalation on Thursday we'll take this into this and then we will start calming things down on Friday and Saturday and this helps him because now he's very confident he gained back his relation with Gallant and he has turned this page of uncertainty of the relation between the Prime Minister and the Minister of Defense and then he has gained back the problematic figures in his government that were shouting always asking for escalation against Hamas he is now in a very comfortable zone to pass the budget and then to go back to the judicial reforms strong, more controlling everything so it pays him very well and he knows that maybe it's okay that some 50-60 Palestinians will die and 2-3 Israelis will die now we have one casualty on the Israeli side which is something remarkable this could be a game changer he's managing the things he's the master of what's happening here he can stop things and he can continue the game because why does he need mediation he can just stop the operation and Jihad eventually will stop and I think the mediation process the mediation system is collapsing we have seen that the meetings in Akaba and Sharma Sheikh collapse because whatever they have agreed was imposed on the ground and now everybody is fed up from the mediators because they don't control Israel Jihad themselves why do they need to listen to the Egyptians and they know that Israel does not really commit to what they confirm to the Egyptians lack of trust on behalf of all those involved Dr. Ismail before we conclude our broadcast for the Gaza Strip look it has only been 16 such operations in the last 20 years only 16 only magically they all end up more or less the same the start more or less the same we have the same we could have actually played a recording from previous that's one way to save money maybe and so no this what I'm worried about is that in the end it will turn into some sort of a war of attrition and this is not something that we want to suggest this is already the case Gaza should be integrated with the West Bank under one leadership and that's well gentlemen not our discussion and I'm afraid nor this current trend of violence will solve the Gaza problem if you will thank you very much for this we continue our rolling coverage at the top of the hour thanks for watching I had this idea to make it bigger I was in a bar with friends this week in Malar at large my guest will be John Bolton former NSC advisor to Donald Trump former number two of the White House and the prospect that if Iran had nuclear weapons that Hezbollah could deliver that Israel would be subject to a nuclear Holocaust so I don't think the Israelis will allow that to happen Malar at large Christian Malar this week on I-24 News what we're making today it has a very long name it's called it's zucchini balls fritters with feta cheese with olive oil all kinds of different spices and greens the second version of it is tomato and leek same style this is food that is served as appetizer in a Greek tavern or in a Greek family lunch or dinner and it refers to the old days when Greeks were more poor than today they didn't have meat so they would substitute it with tomatoes and leeks or zucchini and make fritters like balls like kefte so that's where it all comes from Athens, Greece and I've been to Israel many many times as a journalist in the past because this is my morning job and that's how I met my wife Natalie and then we moved and a few months ago we moved to Yaffo for months I'm hosting here in our house and in other venues in Tel Aviv this event we cook a meal of 12, 13, 14 dishes sometimes it's a big you know a Greek meal should be big this is basic if it's not big it's not Greek and then we also had musicians with us guitar player the Greek dream is to be a tavern owner who spends over-eating every day this is the basic dream of every Greek person and that's what we want to give here the atmosphere of a family tavern that the wife and the husband are the only workers there they cook and serve and sing and do everything I love my culture, I love this part of Greek culture which is music and food and entertainment and I'm trying to bring it here and I enjoy it very much 3 days of intense fighting between Israel and Palestinian Islamic jihad in Gaza hundreds of rockets have been lobbed into Israel the barrage has not stopped Israel in precision strikes targeting the top members of Islamic jihad at least five top leaders have been killed and in Israel one person has been killed doesn't injured when a rocket slammed into an apartment building in Rychovot I-24 news has live coverage of the exchange of fire we begin first from Nikol Zedek who's on the scene at the direct hit in Rychovot Nikol, what's the latest? Well Albert, you can actually see the damage right behind me, I'm going to step out to give you a better view of the damage that we're talking about to this residential building that did kill one civilian and injured at least five others really the atmosphere ever since then it has been very very tense the efforts are just beginning to get underway because look at all that damage that this building took, in fact many authorities are evaluating it right now you can see some people still walking around inside, firstly making sure that no one is still left stranded or trapped in the building secondly evaluating because after all of this damage authorities are worried that there is the potential that this building could collapse so they want to make sure that residents are continuing to stay away as they also clean up the street from all of the damage that has been left behind now as far as what we're seeing here in the city of Rychovot as I told you it is definitely a very tense atmosphere, in fact we spoke to the deputy mayor who kind of explained everything that is happening right now and how he's helping his citizens handle such a devastating aftermath Now we make a round to see if someone, we left someone in the building last round, we find until now we have 14 people in the hospital and one people will die it's difficult, you know but all the government is coming now to help us to see together what we are going to do in all the next day but we are a strong community we're going back to work and we're not worried Certainly a strong community here and as the deputy mayor said it has been a team effort during not only the cleanup here making sure that everyone is safe we've seen fire and rescue units search and rescue units, medics paramedics, police, IDF really all of them on the ground right here as far as what residents in the area can expect going into tomorrow schools have been closed as well as events, they want to make sure that no more large gatherings are taking place here in Rychovot tomorrow and really making sure that children are staying safe staying out of the educational facilities as far as work, buses, all of that that's all going back to normal as unfortunately this is something that here in central Israel we don't see often but this feeling of anxiety they are unfortunately used to and so the deputy mayor tells me that life goes on they are a strong community and they will come back from this devastating aftermath Nicole Sider joining us live from Rychovot at the site of a deadly missile attack thanks so much for joining us Nicole I'm joined now in studio by Major General Etan Dungol military secretary to three defense ministers and former coordinator of government activities for the Palestinian territories for the IDF and I'm also joined by international security analyst Martin Hemel first Etan if I can talk to you a little bit about this these barrages, these hundreds of rockets that have been coming this way it's as though there's no let up here we are like 10 o'clock at night it's going to continue through the night it looks like two things first we don't see any new a way of arm that in this case jadislamic is using or trying really to make something to threat Israel besides what we are aware to with those rockets these rockets is a weak point for us it's on the stomach because all about the underground the tunnels and all the other kind of activities also by Hamas were closed and Hezbollah were closed by Israel with high technology and with high intelligence what's going now it looks to me that it's a sensitive evening it can be for the coming 12 hours in my opinion as it's coming to a situation that Hamas is not participate physically in what's going I think that the situation of jadislamic is coming worse and worse their activity are in a narrow place they are trying now to signal after what happened that Israel succeed to target the heads of the rocket structure I think that it's already the fifth person in a senior position jadislamic was eaten by Israel as a part of what started a week ago so now we are maybe coming to two opportunities or coming to close it and their Egyptian discussions with jadislamic but don't think that Hamas is not there with the Egyptian and on the other end it can be taken more days but I think that we already have faced such circles and this is the first part by Israel to react about something higher than it it's a strategic way that Israel has to continue on its way to see what it should be done against what started at the middle of Pesa holiday while rockets were launched from Lebanon and after that from Gaza this is another story the coordination cooperation of the arena terrorism against Israel and this is much more serious now we'll talk about Egypt in one second with Martin I just want to go back a little bit so the IDF targeted the top five military commanders of jihad they went down the list and took one out one by one point does as long as you had get back to a corner and they turn to Hamas and say you got to help us out here I think from the beginning the first attack that I think ended less than one minute was the main goal of this operation but you know it's not depend on one side it was clear you're taking a calculation risk like the launch of rockets etc and we are waiting I think that jihad islamic were expected from Hamas to join them physically because Hamas signals like a kind of leadership towards the arena circle of terrorism by the headquarters they are sitting together in Gaza etc and I think that there is even a heightens can be in Gaza between Hamas and jihad islamic kind of disappointment and I would like to emphasize another point inside the jihad islamic I know it there is also tense between the outside leadership what you can call the foreign leadership that are located in Damascus, Nakhale and Ajuri and between those that are in Israel it's a different movement it's not a conventional terror that have their structure very high hierarchy you think it's very narrow the hierarchy and in Gaza this is the effect of what Israel achieved by targeting those five the other two it's another intelligence way of achievement because during such a circle of violence people are reading it's very difficult to get the intelligence where they are and it come few hours one after the other in the area of Hanunez where they were targeting let me ask let me go back to Martin for one second about Egypt they said that they were signaling that they would want to get involved in some sort of ceasefire here what's in it for them? well they need regional stability if there's trouble serious chaos in Gaza that's on their border that's affects their side of the border as well and so they want regional stability that's the most important thing apart from that though I'd just like to emphasize that this war the statement as the general said is that the first minute showed there's a new ball game there's a new rules new ball game and the leadership of Islamic jihad in Damascus the leadership of Hamas in Gaza they're all thinking about it that can happen to me they have ways of getting to us and that's really the message of this whole operation right now in 30 seconds I know it's tough to do that but in 30 seconds what does Prime Minister Netanyahu do today does he continue the fight does he continue the drops that strikes well I think it depends if he's got other targets that are really open and could embellish the point if he does he might continue and if not he might look for a way out and it looks as though the barrage hasn't stopped from Islamic jihad so it's not as though they're waiting to hear whether there'll be anyone coming to the table they're just going to keep going well they can keep going for a short while they don't have the logistics and depth the big army there's only so much time they can go without sleeping great thank you both very much we'll be right back right after this live tip coverage of operation shield and arrow continues right after the break hey it's you again ready let's go one show a whole lot of perspective he is part of the problem you want to talk about deep platforming people are losing their lives not just what happened but why does it matter I'd like to finish my point you're the one stretching terms here you could be a fantastic CNN reporter join us every night 8 p.m. eastern on global live the global conversation starts here sometimes it's tough to get past all the noise and get to the heart of the story even tougher to make sense of it all I'm David Matlin and each weekday I'll take on the most important topics breaking down the issues so you can decide for yourself zoom in each weekday here at I-24 news imagine being able to see into the future what innovations will change the world as we know it join us as we meet the people changing our planet and discover the inventions shaping tomorrow Israel business beat Sundays and Wednesdays 9 30 p.m. GMT thanks from around the world thank you this is I-24 news continuing coverage of operation shield an arrow there has been a strike a direct strike on an apartment building in Jehovah that killed one person and injured about 12 people this comes as hundreds of missiles were lobbed at Israel from the Gaza Strip I'm joined now by Yonatan Rottenberg he's a medic with the United Hatsala they were the first to arrive at the scene at in Jehovah Jonathan welcome are you there yes I'm here when you first arrived at the scene what did you see first of all there was a lot of smoke people calling for help and running out of the building the building was devastated so we tried to figure out how to get in when we managed to get into the building we climbed up to the second floor and we understand that it's actually was totally destroyed and then we try to figure out where are the people inside and we help them to go outside slowly and took some time and afterwards in a few minutes later we understand that we actually have one person that died unfortunately was the person who died were they in the were they in the protected space or were they in their apartment they were in the apartment probably not in the right so I guess that's the issue with the fact that when the sirens go off the fact that you need to get into the you need to get into the protected space within 90 seconds it appears that person did not make it in time probably as you can see right now in the image you can see that the apartment is actually destroyed totally and it was a direct hit so I cannot tell you if actually if they were in the apartment or not if it could help them I don't really know now there was also a report earlier maybe you can help us confirm that some people were trapped they were unable to leave their protected space were you able to see that when you arrived there were a few people that were trapped but the fire troops helped them to get out and afterwards the IDF soldiers from Pikudovo if they came by and they managed to take them out great and Yonatan as far as you know most of the injuries were what minor in terms of bleeding and of broken bones and such or what kind of injuries did the others sustain all kinds of trauma injuries but not severe trauma injuries all of them were evacuated very very quick to the hospital we managed to help them there were like around 10 people that we took out of the building and all of the other person were not injured great Yonatan thank you very much for joining us Yonatan Ronberg with United Huts alive joining us live from Rehoboth Israel I just wanted to get our viewers up to date there are continuing to be some sirens going off in the southern part of Israel more about Askelon and Rehoboth area and now I'm being told we have Kloestrander who's joining us live from Sderot, Pierre are you there yeah yeah I'm here hi go ahead tell us what's going on where you are well 15 minutes ago there was another red alert it means you know about 3 or 4 rockets I don't remember that's where magically intercepted by the iron dome anti-missile system and you know a spread of sparks in the dark night and then the bad wind went over to another direction and that's the way it's going on here and people are just you spoke with a rescue worker who's in these protected areas the problem is in Sderot and in the old city of Askelon for instance there are tenements that don't have these protected rooms in their own apartment simply because these buildings were built before the first Gulf War and only after the first Gulf War in 1991 did the Israeli government decide to in any new building protect a dreaming apartment so in Sderot you still have people that are not protected so they have to go downstairs and they have to calculate exactly how long it takes them to go to the next public shelter you have only 15 minutes where a few kilometers away from the Gaza border from the rocket launching pads so the distance is measured in time and that crucial time you need to calculate it in advance you need to go to a bakery to buy bread you need to calculate where is the next protected area are there any obstacle on the ground that you need to avoid if you're an old person you need to avoid them you need to watch the ground you need to be careful because if not you're going to wound yourself you're going to fall and then you're going to be vulnerable from the debris of the interception if the rocket has not crushed in Sderot now Sderot is really in a sense an epicenter of that rocket fight that has been going on for already 22 years I just spoke to a young boy 17 year old earlier and he was born in Sderot he's going to tell me next year he's going to be 18 and he wants to go to a fighting unit he's very resilient he's very determined and his dream is to protect his family who lives in Sderot where on the border which is only 5 km away from here so that's the complexity of the situation here now of course there is the magic Iron Dome but that's not enough and there is also the fact that Israel was proactive took the initiative but then there's also the realization that it's only a rounder fighting and maybe on the 15th of May when the Palestinians commemorate their knockback catastrophe the creation of the state of Israel or on the 18th of May when there's going to be a Jerusalem commemoration of the reunification of Jerusalem after the 6 day war when right-wing Israelis are going to march in Muslim neighborhoods in the old city of Jerusalem and that's the sacred Saint Jerusalem for all three monolithic religions if we go over this hurdle how long will it stay how long will we have to wait for the next round of fighting that's the question they ask themselves and that's the question we'll be following and Pierre thank you very much come back to us as things continue through the night let me go now to Martin let me ask you a question about that where Pierre is right now a lot of the residents there said not enough was being done in advance as over the past months they were getting barraged by rockets what changed? I think local leaders see that the rules of engagement have changed they've assassinated top Jihad leaders and they've made it clear to my minister that if you need more time to keep up this new engagement to get more aggressive about it they'll give him all the time he wants what they don't want to see is okay you score a few points here you've got a new rule of engagement but then it goes quiet until the next time I think they're going to be somewhat disappointed because there's no panacea no all-inclusive solution that's going to solve this with just through a might it's a political, military and progress basically if I can go to General Eitan at this time last night the prime minister would announce some sort of a ceasefire and then all bets were off at the last minute why take that tack and come out and say no we're not going to have anything like this I really don't know what was personally the reason of making this kind of statement yesterday because the day before when it started another kind of statement by the prime minister chief of defense head of the interior security service and also a minister of defense yesterday it was like a sign that something is preparing for a kind of ceasefire it can be because I've been there you know you start two activities that are not touchy each other one is the escalation the second one is immediately what will be achieved by the policy or the political level is done by Egypt probably maybe they got a positive science and it was disappeared during the evening and meanwhile Israel continues we need very responsibility way of heroic targeting the jihadislamic people in being very careful to divide between Hamas and jihadislamic meanwhile I've had a very important distinction and what was achieved by Israel it was a great let's scan again a second surprise to jihadislamic that now the demon kind of revenge or kind of the end of the game like to have some pictures that they succeed to launch a rockets and they succeed to wounded people etc I don't know if it's going to end tonight I don't think it needed more statement not by the prime minister not by anybody just to make it patient and to work from my experience the Egyptians are working I think that if it will be close under the parameters that are now in this kind of area I believe that in the coming 12 14 hours can be achieved something but everything I'm making I'm saying it carefully it can be moved dramatically to the other side if you have any kind of tactic event that cause casualties or you have also interfere with Hamas that decide to change their concept we'll talk a little bit of that in just a moment I just want to let our viewers up to date know what's happening in the past few hours there have been some alerts some sirens going off that there were some missiles headed towards the southern part of Tel Aviv there was a missile that struck a Balyam mall and not too far away from Balyam Balyam is about 15-20 minutes away from Tel Aviv in Tel Aviv in Tel Aviv itself that's where we have Piyas Tachibak who's joining us live from Tel Aviv there was a very big concert tonight in Hayarcon Park 40,000 people there that concert still went on despite the fact that you could hear booms out front of our studios here in Yafo exactly Elber that concert in fact only started a few minutes ago it's the concert of the popular Israeli musician Aviv Giffen as you mentioned 40,000 people attending that concert they got still permission to go through with it although also from there they could see the interceptions from the rockets that were targeting the area as you mentioned in Holon to cities not far away from Tel Aviv those 40,000 people received the instructions to lie on the ground to protect their heads with their hands in case of an alert also here in the city of Elber it is a regular Thursday evening at least that is what it looks like here people are out and about standing in front of the popular restaurant in the middle of Tel Aviv you can see those people here in that line are still waiting for a table people are meeting friends for dinner for drinks now there are also public shelters here in Tel Aviv we have about one and a half minutes to run we are here right now looks like it is in the basement of the great synagogue in Tel Aviv in fact it is blocked by a car right now you see some trash also partially blocking the entrance so although the city of Tel Aviv opened its shelters already two days ago not all of them are prepared and here in the atmosphere you can really see that it is very different from what people are experiencing right now in the south it feels quite disconnected although the rockets came quite close to Tel Aviv great Piaf Sakhabaks joining us live now from Tel Aviv where people are out and about late at night thanks so much for joining us I have about 10 seconds to each I'm sorry you wanted to jump in there for a quick second but I wanted to ask you very simple is that do you see this 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what's happening in Middle East now on i24 news for breaking news i'm albert lewitton at the i24 news headquarters in Tel Aviv continuing our live team coverage of operations shield and arrow three days of intense fighting between Israel and palestinian islamic jihad in Gaza hundreds of rockets have been lobbed into Israel the barrage has not stopped Israel in precision strikes targeting the top members of islamic jihad at least five top leaders have been killed and in Israel one person has been killed doesn't injured when a rocket slammed into an apartment building in rachovot i24 news has live team coverage of the exchange of fire we begin first with Nicole Zedek who's on the scene at the direct hit in rachovot Nicole what's the latest albert you can actually see the damage right behind me i'm going to step out to give you a better view of the damage that we're talking about to this residential building that did kill one civilian and injured at least five others really the atmosphere ever since then it has been very very tense as cleanup efforts are just beginning to get underway because look at all that damage that this building took in fact many authorities are evaluating it right now you can see some people still walking around inside firstly making sure that no one is still left stranded or trapped in the building secondly evaluating because after all of this damage authorities are worried that there is the potential that this building could collapse so they want to make sure that residents are continuing to stay away as they also clean up the street from all of the damage that has been left behind now as far as what we're seeing here of Rehovo that as I told you it is definitely a very tense atmosphere in fact we spoke to the deputy mayor who kind of explained everything that is happening right now and how he's helping his citizens handle such a devastating aftermath now we make a round to see if someone we left someone in the building we make a last round we find until now we have 14 people in the hospital and one people will die it's a difficult you know but all the government is coming now you know to help us to see together what we are going to do in all the next day but we are a strong community we're going back to work and we're not worried certainly a strong community here and as the deputy mayor said it has been a team effort during not only the clean up here making sure that everyone is safe we've seen fire and rescue units search and rescue units police IDF really all of them on the ground right here as far as what residents in the area can expect going into tomorrow schools have been closed as well as events they want to make sure that no more large gatherings are taking place here in the Hovo tomorrow and really making sure that children are staying safe staying out of the educational facilities as far as work buses all of that that's all going back to normal as unfortunately this is something that here in central Israel we don't see often but this feeling of anxiety they are unfortunately used to and so the deputy mayor tells me that life goes on they are a strong community and they will come back from this devastating aftermath Nicole said joining us live from Hovo that the site of a deadly missile attack thanks so much for joining us Nicole I'm joined now in studio by Major General Etan Dungal the former military secretary to three defense ministers and former coordinator government activities for the Palestinian territories for the IDF known by international security analyst Martin Hemel first Etan if I talk to you a little bit about the this these barrages these hundreds of rockets that have been coming this way it says though there's no there's no let up there and here we are like 10 o'clock at night it's going to continue through the night it looks like two things first we don't see any new way of arm that in this case jadi slamming is using or trying really to make something to threat Israel besides what we are aware to with those rockets these rockets is a weak point for us it's on the stomach because all about the underground the tunnels and all the other kind of activities also by Hamas were closed and his bala were closed by Israel with high technology and with high intelligence what's going now it looks to me that it's a sensitive evening it can be for the coming 12 hours in my opinion as it's coming to a situation that Hamas is not participate physically in what's going I think that the situation of jadi slamming is coming worse and worse their activity are in a narrow place they are trying now to signal after what happened that Israel succeed to target the heads of the rocket structure I think they it's already the fifth person in a senior position jadi slamming was eaten by Israel as a part of what started a week ago so now we are maybe coming to two opportunities or coming to close it under Egyptian discussions with jadi slamming but don't think that Hamas is not there with the Egyptian and on the other hand it can be taken more days but I think that we already face such circles and this is the first part by Israel to react about something higher than it it's strategic way that Israel has to continue on its way to see what it should be done against what has started at the middle of Pesach holiday while rockets were launched from Lebanon and after that from Gaza this is another story the coordination cooperation of the arena terrorism against Israel and this is much more serious now we'll talk about Egypt in one second with Martin I just want to go back a little bit too so the IDF targeted the top five military commanders of jihad they went down the list and took one out one by one at one point does Islamic jihad get back to a corner and they turn to Hamas and say you got to help us out here I think from the beginning the first attack that I think ended less than one minute was the main goal of this operation but you know it's not depend on one side it was clear you're taking calculation risk like the launch of rockets etc and we are waiting I think that jihad islamic were expected from Hamas to join them physically because Hamas these signals like a kind of leadership towards the arena circle of terrorism by the headquarters they are sitting together in Gaza etc and I think that there is even a high tense can be in Gaza between Hamas and jihad islamic kind of disappointment and I would like to emphasize another point inside the jihad islamic I know it there is also tense between the outside leadership what you can call the foreign leadership that are locating in Damascus, Nakhale and Ajuri and between those that are in Israel it's a different movement it's not conventional terror that have their structure very key Is it a hierarchy you think? It's very narrow the hierarchy and in Gaza this is the effect of what Israel achieved by targeting those five the other two it's another intelligence way of achievement because during such a circle of violence people are reading it's very difficult to get the intelligence where they are and it's come few hours one after the other in the area of Hanyunis where they were targeting let me go back to martin for one second about Egypt and now Egypt has said that they were signaling that they would want to get involved in some sort of a ceasefire here what's in it for them? they need regional stability if there's trouble, serious chaos in Gaza that's on their border that affects their side of the border as well and so they want regional stability that's the most important thing apart from that though I'd just like to emphasize that this war the statement as the general said is that the first minute showed there's a new ball game there's a new new rules, new ball game and the leadership of Islamic Jihad in Damascus, the leadership of Hamas in Gaza they're all thinking about it, that can happen to me they have ways of getting to us and that's really the message of this whole operation right now in 30 seconds I know it's tough to do that but in 30 seconds what does Prime Minister Netanyahu do today right now does he continue the fight does he continue the drops, the strikes well I think it depends if he's got other targets that are really open and could embellish the point if he does he might continue and if not he might look for a way out and it looks as though the barrage hasn't stopped from Islamic Jihad so it's not as though they're waiting to hear whether there'll be anyone coming to the table, they're just going to keep going well they can keep going for a short while because they're a small terrorist organization they don't have the logistics and depth, the big army there's only so much time they can go without sleeping great thank you both very much after this live tip coverage of Operation Shield and Arrow continues right after the break this week in Mallard at large my guest will be John Bolton former NSC advisor to Donald Trump former number two of the White House and the prospect that if Iran had nuclear weapons that Hezbollah could deliver that Israel would be subject to a nuclear holocaust so I don't think the Israelis will allow that to happen Mallard at large with Christian Mallard this week on I-24 News smart phone, tablet or desktop to stay connected in the Middle East and around the world don't wait any longer head to our website or mobile application and click on I-24 news radio to subscribe in case you're just joining us from around the world thank you this is I-24 news continuing coverage of Operation Shield and Arrow there has been a strike a direct strike on an apartment building in Rojovo that killed one person and injured about 12 people this comes as hundreds of missiles were lobbed at Israel from the Gaza Strip I'm joined now by Yonatan Rottenberg he's a medic with the United Hatsala they were the first to arrive at the scene in Rojovo Jonathan welcome are you there yes I'm here so when you first arrive at the scene what did you see first of all there was a lot of smoke and people calling for help and running out of the building the building was devastated so we tried to figure out how to get in when we managed to get into the building we climbed up to the second floor and we understand that it's actually was totally destroyed and then we tried to figure out where are the people inside and we helped them to go outside slowly and it took some time and afterwards in a few minutes later we understand that we actually have one person that died unfortunately was the person who died were they in the mamad were they in the protected space or were they in their apartment they were in the apartment probably not in the mamad so I guess that's the issue with the fact that when the sirens go off the fact that you need to get into the mamad but you need to get into the protected space within 90 seconds it appears that person did not make it in time as a probability as you can see right now in the image you can see that the apartment is actually destroyed totally and it was a direct hit so I cannot tell you if actually if they were in the mamad or not if it could help them I don't really know now there was also a report earlier maybe you can help us confirm that some people were trapped they were unable to leave their protected space were you able to see that when you arrived there were a few people that were trapped but the fire troops helped them to get out and afterwards the IDF soldiers from Picudo if they came by and they managed to take them out great and Yonatan as far as you know most of the injuries were what minor in terms of bleeding and of broken bones and such or what kind of injuries did the others sustain all kinds of trauma injuries but not severe trauma injuries all of them were evacuated very very quick to the hospital we managed to help them there were like around 10 people that we took out of the building and all of the other persons were not injured great Yonatan thank you very much for joining us Yonatan Rodenberg with United Hatsala joining us live from Rehoboth Israel I just wanted to get our viewers up to date there are continuing to be some sirens going off in the southern part of Israel more about Ascalon and Rehoboth area and now I'm being told we have close under who's joining us live from Sterot Pierre are you there yeah yeah I'm here hi go ahead tell us what's going on where you are well 15 minutes ago there was another red alert it means you know a salvo of rockets about 3 or 4 rockets I don't remember that's where magically intercepted by the iron dome anti-missile system you know a spread of sparks in the dark night and then the bad wind went over to another direction and that's the way it's going on here and people are just you spoke with a rescue worker about the protected areas the problem is in Sterot and in the old city of Ascalon for instance there are tenements that don't have these protected rooms in their own apartments simply because these buildings were built before the first Gulf War and only after the first Gulf War in 1991 did the Israeli government decide to in any new building to have a protected room in apartments so in Sterot you still have people that are not protected so they have to go downstairs and they have to calculate exactly how long it takes them to go to the next public shelter you have only 15 minutes we're a few kilometers away from the Gaza border from the rocket launching pads so the distance is measured in time, the crucial time and that crucial time you need to calculate it in advance you need to go to a bakery to buy bread, you need to calculate where is the next protected area are there any obstacles on the ground that you need to avoid if you're an old person you need to avoid them, you need to watch the ground, you need to be careful because if not you're gonna wound yourself you're gonna have you're gonna fall and then you're gonna be vulnerable from the debris of the interception if the rocket has not crushed in Sterot now Sterot is really in a sense an epicenter of that rocket fight that has been going on for already 22 years, I just spoke to a young boy 17 year old earlier and you know he was born in Sterot he's going to the army next year he's gonna be 18 and he wants to go to a fighting unit he's very resilient, he's very determined and his dream is to protect what is in Sterot where on the border which is only 5 kilometers away from here so that's the complexity of the situation here now of course there is the magic Iron Dome but that's not enough and there's also immense pride in the fact that Israel was proactive, took the initiative but then there's also the realization of counter fighting and maybe on the 15th of May when the Palestinians commemorate their knockback catastrophe the creation of the state of Israel or on the 18th of May when there's going to be a Jerusalem commemoration of the reunification of Jerusalem after the 6 day war when right-wing Israelis are going to march in Muslim neighborhoods in the old city of Jerusalem and that's you know the 10% Jerusalem for all three monolithic religions if we go over this hurdle how long will it stay how long will we have to wait for the next round of fighting that's the question they ask themselves and that's the question we'll be following all through the night and Pierre thank you very much come back to us as things continue through the night let me go now to Martin and let me ask you a question about that but where Pierre is right now Pierre said not enough was being done in advance as over the weeks over the past months they were getting barraged by rockets what changed well I think local leaders see that the rules of engagement have changed they've assassinated top jihad leaders and they've made it clear to the prime minister that if you need more time to keep up this new engagement to get more aggressive about it they'll give him all the time he wants what they don't want to see is okay you score a few points here you've got a new rule of engagement but then it goes quiet until the next time I think they're going to be somewhat disappointed because there's no panacea no all-inclusive solution that's going to solve this with just through might it's a political, military work in progress basically if I can go to General Eitan last night at this time last night the prime minister there was talk the prime minister would announce some sort of a ceasefire and then all bets were off at the last minute why take that tack and come out and say no we're not going to have anything like this I really don't know what was personally the reason of making this kind of statements yesterday because a day before when it started there was another kind of statement by the prime minister chief of defense head of the interior security service and also a minister of defense yesterday it was like a sign that something is preparing for a kind of ceasefire it can be because I've been there you know you start two activities that are not touching each other one is the escalation the second one is immediately what will be achieved by the policy or the political level like is done by Egypt probably maybe they got a positive science and it was disappeared during the evening and meanwhile Israel continues we need very responsibility way of heroic targeting the Jihad Islamic people in being very careful to divide between Hamas and Jihad Islamic meanwhile a very important distinction and what was achieved by Israel it was a great let's scan again a second surprise to Jihad Islamic that now the demon kind of revenge or kind of the end of the game like to have some pictures that they succeed to launch rockets and they succeed to wounded people etc I don't know if it's going to end tonight I don't think it needed more statement not by the prime minister not by anybody just to make it patient and to work from my experience the Egyptians are working I think that if it will be closed under the parameters that are now in this kind of area I believe that in the coming 12 14 hours can be achieved something but everything I'm making I'm saying it carefully it can be moved dramatically to the other side if you have any kind of tactic event that cause casualties or you have also interfere with Hamas that decide to change their concept we'll talk a little bit of that in just a moment I just want to let our viewers up to date know what's happening in the past few hours there have been some alerts some sirens going off that there were some missiles headed towards the southern part of Tel Aviv Kholon was hit there was a missile that struck a Balyam mall and not too far away from Balyam Balyam is about 15-20 minutes away from Tel Aviv in Tel Aviv Tel Aviv itself that's where we have who's joining us live from Tel Aviv there was a very big concert tonight in Hyarkon Park 40,000 people there that concert still went on despite the fact that you could hear booms out front of our studios here in Yaffo exactly Elbert that concert in fact only started a few minutes ago it's the concert of the popular Israeli musician Aviv Geffen as you mentioned 40,000 people attending that concert they got still permission to go through with it although also from there they could see the interceptions from the rockets that were targeting the area as you mentioned Kholon to cities not far away from Tel Aviv those 40,000 people received the instructions to lie on the ground to protect their heads with their hands in case of an alert also here in the city of Elbert it is a regular Thursday evening at least that is what it looks like here people are out and about here standing in front of the popular restaurant Port Said in the middle of Tel Aviv as you can see those people here in that line are still waiting for a table people are meeting friends for dinner for drinks now there are also public shelters here in Tel Aviv we have about one and a half minutes to run to one in case of an alert and I want to show you how this shelter close to where we are here right now looks like it is in the basement of the great synagogue in Tel Aviv in fact it is blocked by a car right now you see some trash also partially blocking the entrance so although the city of Tel Aviv opened its shelters already two days ago not all of them are prepared and here in the atmosphere you can really see that it is very different from what people are experiencing right now in the south it feels quite disconnected although the rockets came quite close to Tel Aviv great Pierre Schuchbach joining us live now from Tel Aviv where people are out and about late at night thanks so much for joining us I have about 10 seconds to each ask of you I'm sorry you wanted to jump in there for a 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of intense fighting between Israel and Palestinian Islamic jihad in Gaza hundreds of rockets have been lobbed into Israel the barrage has not stopped Israel in precision strikes targeting the top members of Islamic jihad at least five top leaders have been killed and in Israel one person has been killed five injured when a rocket slammed into an apartment building in Rechovot i24 news has live team coverage of the days events we begin we begin first with Nicole Setic whose i24 news correspondent joining us from Rechovot, Nicole yes it's been actually just about three hours since the attack on this residential apartment behind me here and although crews are beginning to really clean up the damage there is still a lot to be done and they continue to look and evaluate the building behind me crews are in there right now making sure no one is left in the building but also really doing an assessment of all of the damage making sure that any residents who are surrounding this area are okay because they're not sure as far as the structural integrity of the building if it is at the possibility of collapsing and so that is why crews are still actively working here they're still just debris covering the ground in fact a street sweeper just came through and now the road is back open surrounding this residential apartment building because people are trying to get back to their apartments right now it's kind of a back to this sense of tense calm that we have been experiencing but as far as what the residents in the area are feeling right now they're saying they're just shocked that this area in central israel was struck so so heavily a lot of them are very very shaken up right now many of them had just barely enough time to run to their safe place or shelter if they even had one many people just had to either lie down on the ground or just stay in the staircase wherever another safe place is because they don't actually have a shelter in their home right now we also spoke to the deputy mayor here and he said as far as tomorrow what residents can expect following this tragedy is schools will be closed and events will be prohibited but other than that as far as public transportation businesses those are all allowed to be up and running as far as tomorrow but there's definitely this feeling of anxiety right now and the deputy mayor which to make sure that everyone can kind of come together following this tragedy he says rohobot is a strong city a strong town and people are going to come together following such a tragic event and and also with no end in sight they don't know if this could happen again we haven't heard any explosions overhead for the past about 45 minutes to an hour now but as residents go to sleep tonight especially following attack quite literally in their home so close to home many of them are sleeping on edge tonight here in rohobot in central Israel I want to emphasize we're not near the near some of those southern cities right near the border this is central Israel where many people don't expect an attack like this to to take down an apartment building as it did today so Nicole said it was in rohobot let me ask you a question in terms of the I hear a lot of noise behind you I suspect a lot of the residents of the city are coming to take a look at the damage as it turned into a a site for people to see that is exactly what we've been seeing all day today I'm actually going to have you you pan the camera about 180 all the way around here so that you can see what we're experiencing here on the streets as you can see still plenty of security officers out here but also if you kind of look down this residential street as people are gathering people are looking cars are as I said beginning to be allowed that's only been in the past 20 or 30 minutes here but people are coming out of their building taking a look kind of gathering and and also comforting each other as I said this is a tight knit community you know it's a good city and so all of these people are coming out here this is something that we have seen for the past three hours I want to say exactly when it did happen and when we showed up the crowd was even larger but we have still continue to see people as now this road is fully open more and more people are coming Albert and definitely taking a look at the damage seeing it firsthand it definitely does impact many of the residents here once they can see it with their with their own eyes themselves great great Nicole said thank you so much for joining us from Rojava and you keep us updated as things progress there thanks again so now the latest volume between the two sides comes after the killing of the commander of the Palestinian Islamic Shahad's rocket brigade Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made comments earlier today here now the Prime Minister early this morning we eliminated the commander of the rocket array of Islamic in Gaza an hour ago we also eliminated his deputy I repeat anyone who comes to harm us will be doomed and his replacement will be doomed as well we are in the middle of the campaign both on the offense and on the defense behind me is a battery from David sling missile defense system with its commanders this system successfully intercepted a rocket over the Tel Aviv area we will continue to act in defense until the end of the campaign and I want to thank the soldiers who are doing sacred work here to protect our skies and our citizens and I ask you the citizens to continue to help us protect you follow the instructions of the home front command and together we will win so I'm joined in studio right now by international security analyst Martin Hemel Martin thanks for joining us you know we were talking a little earlier about it this let me just have says that they're not going to come to the table unless the Israelis stop attacking the top leadership what why are they so adamant about not doing that because they don't want to get killed the ones that are conducting negotiations are frightened that they're going to die and they want to be able to sleep at night and take care of their families and so that's a pretty existential place to be and that's why they're fighting so hard to try to get some sort of guarantee but I don't think they're going to get a clear and cloud guarantee from Israel maybe they'll get hints saying well if you behave we'll behave but I don't think it will go anything more than that in terms of hitting the top leadership there I mean it doesn't seem like they have a hierarchy that's set up for the next level to move up to the next level up ahead I don't think it's as rigid disciplined hierarchy like a military or even Hamas which has a much bigger infrastructure it's smaller it's a military asset for Iran it's financed by Iran it certainly couldn't finance itself and once you are engaged for several days and take out their top people fatigue is going to settle in and that's why we'll probably see a ceasefire sooner rather than later and we're seeing a lull I mean a lull as it is for a couple of hours here I mean that's probably reasoning behind between manpower and technology yes and last night they didn't fire at all they have to sleep in the night shift but I'm sure it's not as extensive and they're not sleeping very well they're probably sleeping with one eye open because of what's been going on there was mention overnight that Egypt was going to try to negotiate some sort of a deal here Egypt wants to see things as it was 110 hours ago not as it is today it does it wants stability because Egypt doesn't trust what happens in Gaza the radical Islamic movements there let's not forget that they had Morsi who was a brotherhood Islamist and that's what Hamas is so they don't want to see a return to that they don't want to see those kind of spirits whipped up not long ago in Sinai ISIS was a dominant force so they won't quiet on that border in terms of the regional players here I mean I'm sure everyone's looking at what's happening and they're doing the calculus how does a play in the regional world well I think Iran for Iran this was a trial balloon to see how well its military asset Islamic Jihad holds up and I don't think they're very impressed right now yes they fired some rockets they didn't shut down Israel firing 8 talking about in cold numbers firing 800 plus rockets and extracting one casualty is not very impressive and even a rock concert took place so they're not really getting into the Israeli psyche and on top of that five of the top leaders there were taken out so I think that hasn't gone too well for the Iranian impression of what's going on here and then with 30 seconds left in terms of the international community it seems as though the US is not taking an active role in trying to negotiate some sort of a choose here I don't think so I think that they're letting that for the Egyptians who have the real influence on all sides well live team coverage of the missile barrage Israel continues you know I-24 news coverage crews are all fan across the region but there have been no alerts as of now within the past hour just to recap our viewers around the world there have been about 700 missiles that have been lobbed into Israel since the past couple of days the skies over Gaza and the skies over Tel Aviv and through southern Israel are quiet at this time live team coverage of the missile barrage into Israel continues right after the break Middle East is changing old alliances make way for new partnerships bigger threats lead to new relationships new rules new opportunities we speak to those who know the inside story and are at the heart of the changes don't get caught up with the same old story find out what's happening in Middle East now Middle East now on I-24 News this week in Mallard at large my guest will be John Bolton former NSC advisor to Donald Trump former number two of the White House and the prospect that if Iran had nuclear weapons that Hezbollah could deliver that Israel would be subject to a nuclear holocaust so I don't think the Israelis will allow that to happen Mallard at large with Christian Mallard this week on I-24 News hey it's you again ready let's go one show a whole lot of perspective he is part of the problem maybe you want to talk about de-platforming people are losing their lives not just what happened but why does it matter I want to finish my point you are the one switching terms you could be a fantastic CNN reporter join us every night 8 p.m. eastern on global on the global conversation starts here we're on the inside of political and religious passions in Jerusalem breaking down the financial trends shaping the global economy giving you key context not just headlines with the stories from Israel that touch the U.S. sports catch the rundown where the Middle East meets the world I'm Albert Lewerton of the I-24 newsroom in Tel Aviv giving you an update as to the breaking news that's been occurring all through the night and a direct hit by a missile into an apartment building has killed one and injured five we now go to Avi Marcus who's the deputy director of medical division for United Hats-a-Lahis joining me now from Avi thanks very much for joining you were there right as it was either what did you see so once I arrived the scene was hectic people running around screaming trying to understand what happened what was at scene if people were injured or killed or the building looked like as if it was bombed and you can see in the videos right now so the first few minutes were trying to understand in the building searching through all the floors injured people and helping people come out to the building there's an issue in terms of the building's stability you went in there risking your own life to try to get the people out because the building could have collapsed on you exactly so we didn't go in straight away number one we waited for people to understand and told us we can go in which is the fire brigade in Israel that arrived at scene together with us and of course the other safety issue we had was all the things of maybe having more bombs coming down so all the people that went in at the beginning had helmets on and anything that could help them in order to shooting it would be safe now I have a one question in terms of where did you find the people who were injured the most were they in the Mamad were they in the protected space or were they outside the building so the people who were injured were in the building but not in the Mamad people that were one flight up in the Mamad nothing happened all they heard was the shatting of the windows but the people most probably the women were killed and other people were most probably not in Mamad but we arrived so quick at scene so we still had smoke and dust etc around now in terms of the people who are injured can you talk to us about what kind of injuries they sustained so it looks like Muslim were cuts from glass or falling down when they tried to run away from the bombing so that was one aspect the other aspect was psychotrauma that we started straight away giving psychotrauma therapy to the people that had seen family members and people that lived over the street or maybe a door away and heard the bombing and understood it as a catastrophe so our psychotrauma unit of the United Atsala we arrived at scene within 10-15 minutes and started giving psychotrauma therapy what does that entail so for people who are not familiar with that what does that entail because people would think that something like this happens it's just it's such a trauma how do you help that because it's a trauma and it's something you cannot prepare to what we try to do is when we arrive at scene to destabilize the situation let people know they're in a safe place connected with family members or give them things to do in order not to feel the feeling when you have the bomb coming down usually the the feeling of not being in control is the worst thing once you bring people back into control and show them and make them understand that they're in a safe place and the thing is okay usually the trauma relieves and they feel much better straight away afterwards great hopefully they're getting their treatment now and they're trying to do the can to lessen their trauma since the moment happened a few hours ago Avi Marcus the deputy director for the medical division of the United Atsala thanks again for joining us from Rojovo thank you again for all the work so we continue our live team coverage of this event and for news correspondent joining us from Siderot Israel Pierre there's been a lull so to speak for the past hour or so but that's not to say that everyone's guard is down now no you know our senses are very awake even though we are very tired and I think that the residents of Derot are very very tired and for instance we heard the engine of a car the roar of a car and everybody jumped and then we heard jets and about 15 minutes ago or 20 minutes ago there was a huge explosion emanating from Gaza and it seems that they were targeting a launching pad in this direction which is exactly the direction from where most of the rockets we've seen earlier were magically intercepted by the iron dome anti-missile missile system so you know that's the routine right now we hope that there's going to be a prolonged lull just like yesterday night when you know at some point the rocket stopped the rocket fire stopped and people had a quiet night but there is no guarantee at all there is no guarantee and nobody seems to be talking about a ceasefire anymore yesterday we were told we are on a brink of a ceasefire not anymore and it seems it's just a lull now Pierre are the streets behind you deserted or are there people out it is a Thursday night in Israel which means that people do go out are they out at all or is everyone just at home there's something quite incredible because on one hand the road just in this direction is closed because it goes along the border and there's been instances of previous rounds of fighting of anti-tank cornet Russian made missile fired at vehicles which provoked fatalities so this road is closed the road in this direction the backyard of Zderot I would say is open there is traffic the trains are not functioning but there is traffic and there was a guy here who came out of curiosity believe me he's from Yerucham which is a very small city in the midst of the Negev desert a city which has never been bombed by rocket fire because it's for the Palestinians it seems insignificant as a target and the guy came here and we're talking and he tells me what should I do if I'm in an open space because you know when you're in an open space the iron dome doesn't intercept the rockets because in principle there is no habitat there there is nobody living there so he says I'm going to drive home to Yerucham what am I going to do my car is fueled with diesel diesel is not a flammable liquid he says you see the kind of calculation that the guy has and okay no diesel so I'm telling him listen but the car is made of metal you're going to have metal from the shrapnels and then you're going to have metals from the car on your body you'd better be safe and follow the instruction of the home front command get out of your car go on the ground protect your head and let it go and that's the thing everybody is in the middle of a calculation how do I negotiate my way to the closest shelter are there any obstacles how many steps do I need 15 seconds is that enough you know that kind of thing Pierre Kloschunder stay safe out there and let us know if anything happens out there give us a good ring when it happens okay thanks again stay safe have a great night okay Pierre thank you very much International Security Analyst Martin Hemmels is staying with us in studio he talked about calculations Prime Minister Benjamin Net's now who had a calculation also calculation and all of this talk to us about that well I think he's scoring points here I think he knows he's scoring points he was being criticized for not being tough enough and assassinating five top Islamic Jihad leaders surely shows shows that he's being tougher he's taking some chances and he's winning right now on that front and I'm sure he's scoring points and he's trying to capitalize that with regular press conferences and by showing that he's overcoming his own fighting with the defense minister over political issues by being a real team so he's trying to repair the damage to his image and in some ways he is. Martin stand by one second I just want to continue our team coverage we have live team coverage from reporters all over the region. Pierre Stakhebach is now joining us she is in Tel Aviv right now in the heart of a city that is vibrant people are out they're about to talk to us about that. Exactly Albert as you can see we're here in the middle of the city we're standing next to a very popular restaurant in an area where there's lots of bars and restaurants and you're right people are out and about because here in Tel Aviv you feel quite disconnected from what is happening in the south because it feels so normal it feels like any other Thursday evening although about two or three hours ago earlier this evening there were rockets as close to neighboring cities such as Rishon Le Tzion which is really not far away from here also here in the city not far from here in the north there is a concert from the famous Israeli singer Aviv Geffen taking place with about 40,000 people attending that concert it is taking place outside in the Palka Yakon venue 40,000 people of course when there is a rocket alert you have about one and a half minutes to go to the nearest shelter 40,000 people won't manage to do that the instructions from the home front command for those people are in case of a rocket alert lie on the ground and cover your head with your hands now the city of Tel Aviv has opened its bomb shelters already two days ago there are many throughout the city but as you can see here with this example not every shelter is really prepared what you can see here is the shelter at the grand synagogue in the middle of Tel Aviv but it is blocked by a car and by some trash here partially blocking the entrance so in case of a rocket alert all these people that you can see here sitting they would have together in that shelter that is blocked by a car so although the shelters are open not it's not really made sure that they're indeed also accessible now we haven't had a red alert here throughout the day but there have been quite specific threats from the palestinian Islamic jihad warning residents of specifically Tel Aviv that this is what might happen as a retaliation yeah in fact the palestinian Islamic jihad sent out a video that had Tel Aviv on a crosshairs as if it was something like a warning that hey we're coming for you exactly this is what we've been seeing in videos and photos from the palestinian Islamic jihad they also ranged videos from their long range rockets which could even reach further than Tel Aviv further to northern cities in israel so Tel Aviv often is seen in the Israeli security establishment when Tel Aviv is reached by rockets this is a new level of escalation now when this recent military escalation began yesterday the palestinian Islamic jihad was very quick to send rockets to the central area here there were two red alerts in southern east Tel Aviv yesterday also the rockets came very close to cities like Holon, Rishon and Tzion only a couple of hours ago this night is not over yet and this military escalation for sure is not as well great P.S. Sachebach is joining us live from Tel Aviv thank you again but let me go back to Martin Hill on this there you mentioned earlier in the evening that you don't expect this barrage back and forth to last much longer you expected to end within the past in the next couple of hours why do you say that as long as Hamas doesn't decide to join the fight then Islam Jihad doesn't have the resources the manpower the missiles the logistics and the resources to keep this going for days on is the fear that Hamas says okay you know what we're a big brother we're going to help you out here yes that is a fear that is a calculation because they don't want Islam Jihad completely decimated they wanted to show that it was stood the brunt by that being a victory so Hamas is in an anxious point right now and imagine that Hezbollah is looking at this Hamas is looking at it from the West Bank perspective as well they are indeed Hezbollah is looking from a Lebanese area let's not forget that Hassan Nasrallah leader of Hezbollah has been living in a bunker for the last 16 17 years he's worried about assassination now I think he's even more worried about it and I think Hamas leaders are worried too if they launch offensives or they strike too hard in the West Bank maybe a rocket will come through their apartment window as well thank you very much for joining us tonight I just want to give everyone an update there have been about 500 rockets that have been sent over in the past three days one of them struck a building in that killed one person and injured five you can keep up to date on what's going on today we're making decorated gingerbread cookies they're the perfect treat for wintery Christmas since they're made with spices like cinnamon and ginger that keep you warm I first made these cookies for my grandchildren so I wanted to get just the right recipe that would be child friendly not too sweet, not too spicy it's not that spicy it's not that spicy it's not that spicy it's not that spicy it's not that spicy it's not that spicy I'm going to make the same we're in Fasuta an Arab Christian village in northern Israel Fasuta is one of the very few places in the country that celebrates Christmas in a big way we decorate the village streets and run a Christmas market for outside guests to visit for me Christmas is the most important and beloved holiday of the year in past years I've decided to combine it and opened my own baking business I get a lot of support from my family we all do it together every Christmas we prepare decorated cookies and run workshops for adults and kids I love hosting and Christmas is a great time for that when I have visitors in my house whether it's groups of people, friends or family I want them to enjoy generous portions of good food alongside Christmas treats I serve sweets from the Arab cuisine such as date cookies and pumpkin dessert because I want to expose them to elements from my world doing that brings me a lot of happiness and joy your weekly look into security intelligence and strategic affairs our team brings the latest on the major international conflicts analysis of the major security issues right here in the Middle East and around the globe there is only an I-24 news hey it's you again ready? let's go one show a whole lot of perspective he is part of the problem maybe you want to talk about deep platforming? people are losing their lives not just what happened but why does it matter? 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