Okay. Well, hi everyone. My name is Eric and I'm here with my friend David Hofmeister. And we are, yeah, we're very inspired to talk about Jesus and the mystical teachings of Jesus. And yeah, like it's been really deep for me because I've been following David's teachings for many years now, 15 years I think and studying different pathways, like a course in miracles. But really lately, I've actually been most inspired by the Bible and just looking at what Jesus said in the Bible and realizing that what Jesus said, what he's recorded as having said in the Bible is so profound and so mystical just by itself. And I know you've said this before, David, that if someone just used the Bible to wake up, it really does have everything that you need. It's got all the teachings, you know, forgive, judge not, take no thought for tomorrow, turn the other cheek, like these core principles that are radical. I mean, when people heard that 2000 years ago, they were like, what, you're telling us we should not think about tomorrow and we should just, if someone slaps us on one cheek, we should just give them the, like what are you talking about? How is that practical Jesus? And yet, yeah, I know your teachings have just really, because you've been living it for so long and I've been really practicing it as well, but I think you've kind of proven that it works to actually practice these teachings 100% without compromise. And we just made this whole new platform to offer courses for people that are wanting to dive into that. So maybe we can get into that as well, what the courses are about. But yeah, maybe you could just start off by sharing your thoughts about the Bible and the teachings of Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, well, thanks Eric. Yeah, I grew up, I was raised Christian and when I was in a Christian church, a Protestant church, and was confirmed at 18 years old in a Christian church. But for me, it was the new, the gospel, the New Testament, and I call it the red letters, the letters that stood out of Jesus speaking that those teachings were radical 2000 years ago. I think they're just as radical today as they were 2000 years ago. And back then, you know, in Galilee, and, you know, there was different, there was the Jews and the Romans and the, and different factions of the Jewish people that clashed with each other, there was the priest and the Pharisees and the scribes and then you have the people that are more like the outcast or the ones that are plotting against Rome to try to free free the area from Roman influence the zealots. And then you have the ones that are called like the pagans and all kinds of things but but that's similar we have that 2000 years later we have many, many, many factions that are around and it seems like Jesus was emphasizing the present moment. You know, when he said the kingdom of heaven is at hand. The hand is very close even to use that body metaphor. The hand is very close. All of his teachings were talking about what could call it radical forgiveness in the face of pretty much the mentality of the world and I for an eye a tooth for tooth revenge.  And so these teachings are like from a realm of eternity from the heavenly realms. And I think Jesus was trying to make them practical and introduce them and demonstrate them in action. So of course miracles are really the demonstration of these beautiful teachings of Jesus in action. And that's what we've tried to focus on as well. And I do feel that the experience of mysticism. In general, whether you talk about Eastern mysticism or Western mysticism whether you talk about the different religions, Jewish mysticism or Hindu mysticism or Islamic Muslim mysticism. And Christian mysticism, of course with all the Christian mystics and saints that people are aware of dating back to, you know, St. Francis and and so on and so forth. That actually, I did read a quote from a historian, a Christian historian that was a very striking quote and he basically said, truly, anyone who wants to experience Jesus Christ ends up as a mystic. This was just a general historian through the conclusion that if you actually try to live and follow Jesus and practice teachings of Jesus you end up, you know, as a mystic, which is just one who's very devoted to God. You don't even move in the realms of what might be called Christian nationalism or Christian politics or. Nowadays there's contradiction of terms which Jesus's teachings really were pointing to, to a love not of this world and agape love and unconditional love that is not. It's not actually in the realm of of politics and culture and norms and beliefs and and institutions. It's actually a direct connection to the living Christ spirit or to the living God. And we've used the term for years living church ministries and living miracles, because it reflects our, our deep felt belief and experience that these teachings are to be lived, not just studied, or not just perpetuated in terms of theologies but actually it culminates in a living experience and that's that's what I loved about Jesus is that it's the presence of Jesus that is really everything and even things like theology and metaphysics those can be stepping stones, I think, to surrendering into a direct letting go, because even with theology and metaphysics. It only takes you so far and then you have to go beyond the words you have to go into a deeper prayer prayer of the heart that all the Christian mystics and saints were mostly into the direct experience of going into God and letting go up of the concepts and all the structures of this world. Yeah. Yeah, and it's very, I mean, as I've been practicing for many years and even recently I've been going through a lot of, I feel like expansion and just like almost like a dismantling of who I thought I was. And, you know, I think that's, that's just a major component of the spiritual journey where it's about undoing the self concept as you've said and, you know, even in the Bible Jesus talks about how, you know, there will be lots of weeping and bashing of teeth, you know, when you when you when you're going through it or your and you don't actually remember that you just need to forgive then it's difficult and I know even in the last week I've been going through a lot of healing and and then crying and things and I don't know if everybody realizes just how like how intense the spiritual journey can feel, although I also feel there's a way in which it can be very gentle when we just stay very open and childlike and keep coming back to I don't need to know, like he said, unless you become like a little child, you won't enter the kingdom, which is which is here and now meaning enter the kingdom now, like be at peace now so yeah maybe you could say a few words about that just the importance of being clueless and really not thinking we you know anything. Yeah. Yeah, I think that reminds me of like just a willingness to go beyond time, or I could even say before time because most people will say what before time wait I'm used to remember Michael J. Fox and back to the future and what this is back to the back to the I am back to the I am before time was, but yeah the teachings of Jesus were before Abraham was I am. It was teaching us at the presence of God and the presence of Christ and the eternal love is prior to our belief in time. It will not be found inside of time it's you have to kind of let go of everything to to be taken into that pristine experience that is prior to error, prior to sin, prior to time and space. There's nothing really in in time really prepares us for that letting go. And like you're saying when you start to go in that direction will say towards the light. It's emotionally disruptive. It feels like at times, you can't function. It's so dysfunctional, almost like the to go toward the light is to move through the clouds of feeling completely dysfunctional, completely out of control completely almost like taken taken in the tractor beam. As, as your fingertips, try to grasp on to a few more branches and scraps, you know, in futility, and you're just lifted into these deep experiences. But I think we're pretty clear that for all of us we've had to go through like realms of realms of darkness. It's very descriptive. It's sometimes in the Bible, of all the things you have to go through. And I do feel like when I meet Course of Miracle students, you know, sometimes there's a little bit of a feeling of they say, Well, the course is far superior to the Bible. I don't see that superior inferior thing I think I look back at all the Christian mystics and saints and there's a lot of them. If you look back at the history of the last 2000 years. In all the mystics and saints, they didn't have a course of miracles as part of their path. They still had prayer as part of their path. They still had devotion and rituals. They still reclined and recluse pulled themselves away from the participating in the politics and the wars and the struggle of the human condition. And finally to find, I think, when they meditated and prayed and went into their mind, they found even a deeper darkness than what they were perceiving in the world, almost like a giant wall of darkness that was like, I thought I would withdraw there from the perceptual world and just live for the day and happy, happy, happy.   And that's I think what what we have to pass through, because that's what's been unconscious it's all been pushed out of awareness and when we say, God, I'm going to run to you like the song run into the light. Then ego says, Oh yeah, let's see if you can run if you're crippled if you're paralyzed and if you've got chuckles on you, then let's just see how fast you run to the light. The ego is like saying, I'm in here in the unconscious and you're not aware of the depth of the darkness so you can, you can say you're going to run to the light but emotionally I think we find out that we, we have to move through the darkness before we we fully come into the light. Yeah, yeah. And that's where a lot of like having witnesses like people around us who can kind of remind us that everything's going right and not going wrong when the darkness seems to come up. Like it's okay like I've been talking to my friend Lisa recently a lot and just crying and you know she just reminds me that it's this is what it's for it's it's okay if there's times when I feel dysfunctional. It's okay when there's emotions coming up. It's, it's all about this is what it's for it's and and I'm not it's not like I have to do it myself. In fact, it seems more like the journey is is letting just trusting in the Holy Spirit trusting in Jesus and trusting in and those devoted brothers and sisters who kind of come into our lives to help remind us so that we can be kind of pulled through those clouds of darkness. You know, gently and and all we have to do is really kind of relax like that. Like that waterslide metaphor that you use a lot just take your fingers out of the just let yourself go for the ride and even if it feels a little turbulent sometimes they're scary. It's, it's safe actually, we're just opening up or awakening. Yeah, that's it. It's, it's actually we call it pray listen follow where you just get activated from within. And then you feel that activation and then you feel the sparks of nudges of prompts maybe at the beginning, you don't hear a voice but at the beginning you feel feelings maybe feelings calling you in a certain direction or calling you to do something and and you do it and you feel this whoosh of energy and this huge expansion of activation. And then it's more like whoa, what was that I just felt that I was drawn to that I went into that and then whoosh. And many of us had had those experiences, and they're not always tied to a book or to a scripture. They're tied to relationships, they're tied to travels they're tied to sometimes meeting a person, and maybe you're in a cafe having a cup of coffee or tea and this is this expansive connection. You're unprepared for it. You know it's, it's it doesn't fit into the boxes, you know, I just was coming for a cup of tea in a cafe and then wham. And this huge love like feeling like wow I was supposed to meet you or was destined that I talked to you. And I've had a lot of that in my travels where people have invited me into their homes or. Oh you're driving by I see on the internet you're driving by my town. So you stop and have lunch with me. And then we have this huge holy encounter over lunch, like life changing holy encounter, all from just following an inner prompt somebody calling me texting me on myself so when I'm driving through the town. So I think, you know, both you and I have come to start to feel a much more fuller appreciation that that that truly the authentic spiritual path is is not it can't be just pegged or classified in some way and certainly both of us have have come through a journey that involves the intellect. Both of us were were initially drawn in intuitively drawn to some of the ideas that were resonating with us. But I think now it's come to a point where we will agree that that that that is just one pathway, and that is because our ego structures were into that that that's why. And then I remember one time I was talking to somebody from South America, and I think they said oh there's a cursa demilagros group in a coffee farm in rural Columbia that's outside of college you know it's just a coffee farm in the rural areas. There's a cursa demilagros course of miracles group there, mostly women and they meet at this, this horse wrench. And I said okay good good and they said well the funny thing was, they, they've been studying the course but there's a man there that was born on the ranch, and he's worked as a hand on the ranch.  And I said, that's wonderful and then the facilitator the course group said well we're divided in the course group, whether we should even introduce the course of miracles to this man, because he's already such a demonstration of joy, love and innocence that, and he's never even been to cities in his whole life you know he's just like a nature boy that's with the horses and, and flying with the horses, you know, in a beautiful state of mind like the horse whisper. And so I had to just laugh and laugh and laugh and I thought, well that just shows you the human condition when when a course group has to a divided reaction, whether to even introduce the course to a man who's in such bliss. Because as the course says, this is just one form of the universal curriculum and there are many others. So it's, it's clearly not positioning itself in any kind of special place as a special scripture or anything. And it's kind of interesting that in the course it does say that ego enjoys studying itself so that should be a hint. Like, I think Jesus put that in there like watch out. The ego might try to turn this into a lifelong book pursuit. And I think the other thing that's beautiful too is, is Helen Shuckman who was the scribe of the course, you know was quoted as saying, I know it's true I just don't believe it. And also, she said, at one point she kind of was exasperated and she just kind of learned it out. Finally, a pathway to God for intellectuals. So we can take from those little bits and pieces that this is just for some people who maybe identify themselves as intellectuals. It answers a lot of like ontological and metaphysical questions that perhaps were blocks to going in a deeper way. And that's mainly its only value. You could just take the simple teachings of Jesus in the Bible and practice them and transfer the training in a very simple way and end up more like that, that horse rancher in Columbia with no degrees, no business sense, no handling of logistics. I don't think this guy even had any relationship issues either. I mean, he just, he just blissed out on the horse ranch, and then he probably enjoyed seeing these ladies come and study this book which he knew nothing out. It probably wasn't even curious about the book they were reading or talking about, because for him there is an example there was no need. Good, good. Happy to see you having a good time. Love you all hugs and kisses, and I'm getting back to my horses, you know, because it just puts everything in a much different light, a much different perspective. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's so beautiful. Yeah, that's kind of like what has been touching me so deeply is like it's really about letting go now all the book study of the intellectual, you know, trying to which who's right who's wrong, theologically all these debates and just come back into the present moment come into the mystical moment that is before time was, like you said, and like Jesus says, I am before Abraham was, I am. That's, yeah, that's the whole thing now and I know tomorrow night we're going to have another live session actually with with all the interns that volunteers at La Casa de Milagros are our center here in Mexico because because we've been joining for weeks and months on developing these this whole new platform, Jesus, a gospel of love online. And yeah, the community factor to I think is so like I was saying earlier, like when I'm going through intense emotions, it seems like it's so necessary to have have, you know, what we could call mighty companions or or just other devoted friends on the path who can witness to us. And so that's, that's been, you know, we created a whole thing called tribe and it's now we now it's called a whole tribe of Christ, this online community where anyone can join in. And it's all people that are really devoted to these teachings and going into mysticism and yeah, I just think it's so beautiful now that it's been helpful for me to open up to how can I use these teachings to share them and then and then as I'm building the courses and going through my own emotions, I get to practice what I'm putting into these courses and into this online community and it just feels like it's all this kind of orchestration that Jesus is is using to help whoever is ready to start going deeper into this experience. You know, yeah, I totally relate to that I actually to some weeks ago and first came out I did go to the movie theater was slava. The purpose was to see this movie Jesus Revolution. And, and we went and it was very, very expansive experience of the period of time in the United States from like 1968 till most of till the early 70s and then I think it was officially told like around 1972, but four years of inclusive, practical Christianity through many, many people people that were conservatives people were the hippies started off kind of in Northern California in Southern California. And, and it was so touching I, I just had such a beautiful experience with this film, you know, it's start Jonathan Rumi from the chosen who plays Jesus and Kelsey grammar who was famous for Frazier. So touched I didn't. I didn't really know all about these characters that were there at the beginning of this revolution, you know, Pastor Chuck, and Lonnie Frisbee, and, and the cast of characters Kathy who came into a relationship with with Greg Lori and so it was an amazing thing and then over the last few weeks I've just trickled. I watched a few videos of the, of the people of the Lonnie Frisbee's and, and Pastor Chuck and, and, and then I saw actors and actresses who played in the movie talking about their experiences. While I was watching some of these videos to in in February. Before I came down to Mexico. You know how YouTube gives you other recommendations and suggestions once I started watching it. It started to fill up with a lot of backstories and things which are rich. I was just like, Oh, I was like going through doors and doors of this activation of the Jesus Revolution I was feeling it. I was feeling it in my mind I was thinking, that's what I'm feeling now and, and the funny thing was one time I, I put a video on, and it was, it was one of our videos I think a part of our new program. And I was just laying down in my bed up there when I was in Utah, and I was laying there at the end of the video it automatically clicked into another video Jesus started playing another video. I was just laying there and I said, wait a minute, this has been appearing in my mind, and in my dreams, and I've seen this on YouTube and finally I'm just laying there in my bed, and Jesus is playing me and it was this phenomenon that took place in February last month, and there, there was a group of students mostly young people students who came together at this chapel in this small little town in Kentucky, and it was a tiny town called Asbury. And so the people, they started off to have like a Bible study, and then it went on into way past the time into the night and the next day the next day, and it continued on for two weeks people came from all over the United States to go into this auditorium. And people even came from around the world. And then I was listening to one of the actresses who played in the Jesus Revolution and she said, it's like what's happening now at Asbury. It was a very current thing. And it's what we're doing here. We're, we're going to Jesus Christ we're going into the experience of the Christ mind we're going into the direct connection of the Christ. And we're doing it in a way that that says, toss your learnings aside, let your heart lead the way, let it come through your songs, let it come through your actions, let it come through your smile and your sparkly eyes. Let it come through right now and come just as you are right now.   You know, tear down walls tear down religion tell tear down self righteousness, take away my pride. You know, you can feel the heartfelt call like I want an encounter, a real encounter, I want an experience a real experience. So for me, that's actually what it's all about. I know I was, I was raised Christian and I was grateful for that I was, I had a lot of interactions in churches in the main church I was in in Norwood Ohio, and then as I was confirmed. I got into university, and then I started exploring many things, many philosophies and religions and spiritualities. And then, of course, the miracles came, you know, around 1986 around the summertime when I was out in the Hoya California. Something happened. I think that's the born again experience sometimes that Christians talk about it. It wasn't when I was so much in the Christian church, but after I moved on to university and finished 10 years of university. When I kind of had my born again experience. Then I direct encounter. But I was not. You could say I didn't really remain a course student very long because of three revelatory experiences, mystical experiences, and then traveling like Jesus and the Apostles just trusting in divine providence. I didn't know where I would stay didn't know where the food would come to come from didn't know where the guests money would come from. Take these five and a half six week trips around the United States parts of the states. And then 2003 the world travels. But I kind of got into that experience where where Jesus says take no thought of what you should wear and eat and seek you first the kingdom of heaven and all else will be added unto you. It's all there. It's all there in the New Testament. That was, it's almost like when I went through my activation of joy and inspiration. After my 10 years of university that all of those teachings that I grew up with were activated like somehow it's almost like for a computer analogy they were on my hard drive. I was there but I had never opened the program. But when I did open the program, all those all that background and, and, and helpful teaching of Jesus, just kind of exploded in me. And I took what many would say is a is a mystical journey into mysticism and even most Christians and most Course in Miracle students don't, don't ever kind of take the journey they may be aware of it in a periphery way. Like, those are some strange people or those people went off the deep end or they went off the cliff with it. That's fanatical. People would say I'm still normal, but they went from fanatical but I went off that cliff. I went off the cliff and down the cliff and down the rabbit hole at the bottom of the cliff and it just went deeper and deeper, and it was more wondrous and more wondrous. So I actually got into huge activation with the mystical journey long before a book like even Disappearance of the Universe came out in like, was it 2003 or so. I was long gone before Disappearance of the Universe came out. And I was seeing what Arten and Purse were saying I'm like, Oh, that's old hat. There is nothing new that I read in Disappearance of the Universe. I was gone down the rabbit hole.  Just words this is, I'm down like Alice going down through the rabbit hole like I'm way gone past these metaphysics, because I was living in divine providence I was traveling around, and I was being taken into people's homes I was being bed back when I had an appetite decades ago. It was, I was being all these things were happening. You need all you need some money for some gasoline for your car here. I'll go with you and I'll put it give you a free tank of gas.  And, and you know you did the traveling minstrel thing so you got to taste that same feeling of the generosity and love, not based on anything we were doing or anything of the world. It's kind of like I got swept away, swept away in in an experience of of true divine providence like literally took off on my first trip without savings, without a church without support of any physical kind, just out of trust. And then everything that the waves parted the doors opened, and I was like carried like down a water slide. No control whatsoever. So that was, to me what mysticism was that was like, wow, this is, this is amazing this is just carrying me it's doing everything. And I was, I started to really associate it with it's Jesus he's, he's arranging time and space like, like he said in the course, you know when you first read it it sounds kind of far out like john Denver would say far out man. That's cool Jesus is arranging time and space. What. What about jobs. What about families. What about all those traditional things mortgages and all this and this you know this these teachings are far out these are radical then they're radical now. Yeah, for sure. So when I kept on it and on it it just went on and on follow guidance, go here go there. This happens this happens conferences world travels 44 countries 49 states. Round and round and round and round. And then just last year, it was kind of funny because the body of David, in terms of time turned 65. Most of us who live in the United States 65 is an interesting number.  So when I got to be 65, I'm just still in the mystical state still going strong shining sharing and then people around me were saying, you're 65 and I'm like, am I. They said, yeah, you now, you now can start to get the benefits of retirement and I thought, I think I retired from the world at about 28. It's kind of strange, all these decades go by and people are saying, now you qualify for retirement and I'm like, Oh, I think I did that long ago, I'm pretty sure I retired from the world. When I look at these pastors and ministers and these mystics and saints I think they're so far gone they're long gone. They're long gone really early on and they are looking back or forward either. The thing was, when I got to that age. They said, yeah, we'll, we'll check in and we'll check into a few things and so admin was looking into that. And they said, we're kind of sorry to tell you this, David but you know we don't really know how to say this but you don't, you don't qualify for Medicare.  I wasn't staying at the Marriott and Hilton I was staying with people who invited me in from the kindness of their hearts. They fed me, they put gasoline into the car they gave me donations. And then come 65 when admin looks into what's David situation is like, wow, this is out of pattern he doesn't, he doesn't qualify he can't receive a penny from Social Security he cannot without paying huge premiums even enter into Medicare. This guy's off the grid. This guy is gone and now I'm starting to see when the body is is getting up to what the world calls the twilight years. The sparkle of the whole purpose has has made it made me incompatible with the structures of the world. I've become aligned with divine providence I've done aligned with Jesus.   You know, like Jesus says in the course, the peace of God is my one goal, the aim of all my living here, the end I seek my purpose and my function and my life. Well, I abide where I am not at home. So that last sentence is like, even in terms of this world, you're going by by in terms of the laws of this world. The Holy Spirit uses things, you know, orchestrates travels and logistics and flights and cars and transportation and food and clothing and all those things. But it's a power that's in the world but not of the world. It's a power of the Holy Spirit in the mind. And so what it turns out being is that's what leads you into the direct contact with God. It's through pray, listen and follow, and it's through living into in guidance in the present moment. And that's it. You know, if you move into that and you make that connection with with the Holy Spirit and Jesus that inner guidance. Then that's when you through truly can throw books away, you can, you can, you can set aside your Bible you can set aside your course when you make that direct connection with the inner guidance. That's everything. In fact, I would say that that was actually the purpose of the Bible was to put you in touch with the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost and Jesus. The purpose of the course is to put you in touch with Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost, Jesus. And once you have that direct connection, then, then the Bible and the course become like props, along with all the other books and songs and signs and symbols, you know, it's like all the world is then just a bunch of props and symbols to be used only to express joy, not any kind of linear reason just just props and symbols to be used to express present joy. And how simple is that that makes you think of the ranch hand at the horse farm in Columbia, you know, he's happy. He's happy riding the horses, putting them in the barn, letting them out of the barn, and, and taking care of the horses. And that's his symbols for, for joy, it every day is just that. Does this guy have any kind of investment portfolio he doesn't he wouldn't even know what that was, you know, what, what does that even mean. Does this guy have any kind of life insurance or health insurance, what does that mean. He's, he's living with the horses he's blissful. He's doesn't have to go to counseling and therapy for 4050 years for relationship issues. No, he's living in bliss. He doesn't need therapists. He doesn't need therapy. You know, bliss is is all self fulfilled in in itself, because it comes from God. And that's why we're doing this whole mystical teachings of Christ, you know, Jesus, a gospel of love, even that book that I did years ago I kind of collated a book. Initially, I think it was called my meaning in scriptures and then it evolved and, and then it became the mystical teachings of Jesus. And it was kind of funny because maybe about a year ago, just for the fun of it I set out of all the books that have come through me and everything that's come. What's what are the books is our most popular book what is what book that came through me is the is the one that sells the most copies every year and Susan said basically, Oh, clearly it's the mystical teachings of Jesus there's a book, even close to that not movie watchers guide to enlightenment not on one your mind not awakening to a course miracles was the mystical teachings of Jesus, which was all these questions that were given to me and then passages from the Bible, and then passages support passages from the course of miracles. It's like an introduction for many people around the country and the world to what we're talking about now, living the mystical teachings of Jesus no wonder it's the most popular it's, it's Jesus. It's, it's a strong call. Yeah, and that's the one that they've just recently revamped to have the Bible quotes and then teachings directly from you that support those Bible quotes I think we change the name maybe to be called Jesus the gospel of love but yeah that's actually going to be kind of a course material like a bonus will be given to everyone who signs up for the mystical Christ Academy, which starts in April. I haven't actually read it yet but I've kind of gotten a little bit of it. I heard I think for Marcella that it's done. Yeah, anybody's watching this and and they go well I, I like Jesus and I'm liking the resonance of some of these teachings but I don't know about a course of miracles I'm not into channel writing. Well, now we've got a PDF it's just purely the biblical teachings of Jesus with lots of commentary. Sometimes they like my commentary with movies but this is is literally. This is commentary Jesus Jesus Jesus all the way through. So I think for a lot of people that will be a good inroads to to the mysticism we're talking about. Yeah, the experience. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I want to share with people too because this this mystical Christ Academy we're doing in April it's, it feels really kind of revolutionary it's like a brand new thing we've never done this before we've done a lot of in person, like mystery schools and longer devotional retreats. This is like a eight week Academy that's kind of I feel like it's. It's, it's like our in person schools, but you don't have to actually come here because it's going to be all virtual and live a lot of live sessions, a lot of course materials to go through daily. Yeah, it kind of feels huge because we're just I mean just like this live we're doing right now where we're kind of opening up to a whole new wave of live sessions we're going to do one tomorrow night with the interns. And then for those of you who are in Tribe of Christ, which is our community, I think that's just going to start exploding to with a lot more live sessions for interaction but. But yeah, the mystical Christ Academy that starts in what is it like three weeks I think from now roughly April 5, but that is going to be where we just kind of explode into the stratosphere. I don't know how I just feel like it's going to be very spontaneous and we won't even like we won't even know what every day will bring, because it's going to be for us another practice of actually listening pray listen and follow. And then let's go live and talk about this and, you know, take question, you know, I just think it's going to be profound for me. Yeah, for everyone. Yeah, I do feel like when I travel around and I've traveled for years and I meet people that if when they sit at their sofa in the living room or have a couple coffee or tea with them in the kitchen and they say, Yeah, sometimes it's kind of kind of a sad lonely journey or sometimes I feel isolated. I don't feel connected. I feel I want to join in. And over the years I just hear people saying I want to connect I want to feel engaged so this is like the prayer we put out to Jesus was, can there be a way that can be very practical very direct and straightforward for like direct engagement. Direct communication, as long as there seems to be bodies and words let it be used for the glory of God, let it be used to feel your presence in the heart. So I just see that it's all just exploding it's blossoming. We had a while back we had a platform called tribe. Many of our friends from around the globe signed up to be part of tribe. And now it's evolving and morphing to be called tribe with Christ, and anybody's watching and you want to kind of explore this and it's really growing exponentially with with what we're seeing. It's the hyphen Christ net. That's where you go and then you can see a number of things that are happening community and online courses and lots of things, but actually, I do feel like this is just Jesus giving us that a next step, just like we get in the movies you know where we have themes during the week and people vote on them in different platforms, and then we pray on the top themes, and we receive a movie from Jesus and then we go deep into the practical application, the teachings through the movie and the movie characters. This is what we're doing now and like you say it's it's actually new for us. It's a it's a new wave. Yeah. Yeah, it's been because I know we had that we had an in person we called it a mystery school was it last year. The last one we did like the last full one I think we have I think we have one actually right now but yeah we had like a kind of a more full one before with where I was involved and I would join with Lisa who was overseeing and we would just get together every morning just to pray and she was clueless I was clueless and and then the spirit would inevitably tell us what should happen that day let's show you know you're going to show a movie at four o'clock of this movie or you're going to just make it happen then okay spirit thank you and then so this is going to be very similar I think which is just exciting to be able to do the same thing but in a virtual online way that anybody in the world can can partake of. And it'll also include the two online retreats that we have these monthly online retreats at the beginning of April at the beginning of May that will be part of the package so yeah it's for those who want to just really go deeper and have a daily way to connect with us I think this is this is the ticket. Yeah, yeah, it does remind me kind of a digital version of something that I experienced many years ago I was I went down to Australia seven consecutive years and one of those I think towards the later part of those seven years. I was on a trip down along the coastline south of Sydney down down down to mystery Bay. So I went to this mystery Bay in very mystical place in in Australia southeastern Australia right on the coast of the ocean. And when we prayed about that retreat, it was like Jesus said I will guide you day by day and moment by moment. And so people were saying what are we going to do what's the schedule for the retreat and we said, well see that whiteboard over there there's whiteboard a marker and a little eraser. And we're going to whiteboard the whole retreat because Jesus wants us to learn pray listen and follow so you just watched as things get erased and then the next thing comes on everybody's watching the board if somebody sees the board, starting to fill up tell everybody. And then we went through our quiet times our meditations we did sessions we did dance parties. We did a mystery Bay spontaneous retreat where you just come as you are and go into the rapture of just pray listen and follow. And with this, with our new platform, we have had the idea to have maybe doing longer retreats maybe even like a week long retreat, but there's a, there's a way that we can drip it. It's a feature in there called drip. So day one starting session, we drip it. Then we drip the afternoon and then we drip the evening and then the next day day to we drip drip drip. It's like, if you're ready, if you can handle dripping spontaneous life of just drip drip drip with Jesus, then this is where I think there can be an explosion of connection of ecstasy of, of really being in the spirit. Like one of Kim Walker songs, you know, Holy Spirit you are welcome here, you know, to send on us Holy Spirit you are honored here to send on us Jesus, the presence of Jesus you are welcome to send on us drip drip drip day by day day by day. And, and the whole purpose is to let go of time. I skull, I've been seeing all kinds of things online but one of them I see I think in Orlando sort of they have something like called the Jesus School. And that's it's rock and I think I see it sometimes on Instagram Jesus School, and they're dancing and they're crying and they're going through emotions and they're, they're laughing and wow they are in the Jesus School. It's, it's vibrant it's intense but it's, it's, it's basically Jesus saying, I'm calling you out of the world is what it is. It's basically saying Jesus saying my kingdom is not of this world, our kingdom is a heavenly kingdom a spiritual kingdom, and you access it right in the present moment in the holy instant. So basically, what Jesus is saying I mean, ultimately, people get really frightened by that. A lot of people very frightened, people that are even devoted get terrified and frightened of that, because it's like they feel like they're going into the unknown when actually they're going into the known.  And I think it was that way for me with the course I mean I, I read the text and then I was going through the workbook. And I think I got to workbook lesson 132. And, and I was like, whoa. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is, this is beyond the beyond. You know, because he was, he was saying, he was saying, there is no world apart from what you think huge. And then he said there is no world period so I thought, Oh my gosh, all those studies of mysticism, even studying the bits of the Mesquita and different ancient scriptures and texts and other cultures that in the east it's called Maya. When I first read about Maya, I was like, what's this concept Maya, what is Maya. I was unfamiliar with the word Maya. And then when you're into the mystical Christian teachings of the mystics and saints. The same idea starts to come up in Western Christian mysticism terms. And then when you finally get to lesson 132. It's like he's going to spell it out. He's going to actually spell out that that this perceptual world is a veil, gone over the light, the truth. We're meant to wake up from the veil have the veil removed so we can see the face of Christ. And that is where these deep teachings from from India and China and Jesus is transcendent teachings of spiritual awakening and, and knowing God, suddenly it's like, Oh, that's what it's about. It's about connecting with with God and coming to a remembrance of our true identity. So then everything else, all the challenges and the struggles and the burdens and everything.  I'm sending you a gift Jesus. Take the jealousy from me take the pride. Take the challenges and struggles of relationship here. Take it all take it all. I give it to you. And actually that's what the Holy Spirit wants the Holy Spirit wants us to, to give them over to not cling to them to not hold them, but to say you take it all. What a lightness that comes when we actually do that sincerely purely in our hearts, not just words or mantras but I mean, we really mean it then seems like that's the surrender that we've always been praying for. Yeah. I remember we had that opening session for our we have our pilot course going this week and we had an opening session the other day and there was a woman who was really just going through a mystical experience and kind of wondering like how do I navigate time and space like how do I even function and, and you use the word involuntary and how it's it's it's about surrendering and letting the body kind of be used almost like where we become like a just a channel of the spirit but it's involuntary, which even in the Bible Jesus told the apostles, you know, if they call you before the courts, you know, don't plan what you're going to say just the spirit will kind of speak through you will put the words in your mouth. And, and I know you've been teaching for decades that that your whole life can feel like that where you don't really have to worry about like even put any thought into what to do day by day. Like I remember once you said, you know, if you wake up in the morning and you have your to do list in your mind, like that you don't that's just going to get in the way really give your to do list to the spirit and say I I trust you'll you'll trust me today and, and everything will be involuntary. So that's been just so helpful for me. I think that's kind of the core of what this, these courses and what this Academy, because if we're going to go into mysticism it's like how do we, because it is scary, like you said, when we think of it as I'll just be in this, abstract state of mind and what's going to happen to the body and how am I going to function how will I even feed myself how will I, you know, but it is as you've discovered and shared it. There's nothing to worry about the spirit will when we take our hands off the wheel, the spirit will put his hands on for us like he's just waiting for us to like, come on just let go let me drive I can drive a little better than that's good. I had a friend of mine in Colorado one time and she was driving on a major highway goes north south. Yeah, I remember the story highway 25 yeah and she was in her car and probably going 60 miles an hour and then, and then I think one of her worst fears was she going into a mystical experience when she was on the highway driving miles per hour, but she actually did go into a mystical experience and she was kind of down south a little bit at garden garden of the gods, and then found herself when she came out of the mystical and she was still with her body holding the wheel, driving on the highway. Miles 2530 miles down the road. And that's a perfect example about how it's involuntary like the ego would tell you you're in trouble. If you go to a mystical experience and you're driving on a highway at 60 miles an hour. I don't know what to ask her but Jesus is saying, told you involuntary involuntary it's not under your conscious control. And someone who really inspired me actually early on was I picked up this book. When I was in Roscoe, New York called the peace of God is my one goal and there were I love that but people, you know Barbara and Robert Varley who who were so much into prayer and devotion they were, they were reading. And when they came together they would like read from the Bible and the lamp lamp survival and the course and they were just into pray listen and follow. And I, the whole life was a demonstration. We got to Robert, Barbara had passed away by the time we met Robert but it was so beautiful because Barbara had a song that she's saying it was I'm willing for my life. To be a picture painted by Holy Spirit, painted by Holy Spirit and the song repeats this beautiful lyric. And she just would sing that almost like a mantra willing for my life to be a picture, painted by Holy Spirit, painted by Holy Spirit, and they were helpful examples that Jesus sent to me early on this was, they traveled around the United States back in the 1980s and then I got their book and started traveling in the 1990s. So, again, Jesus just sent all the witnesses to say, it's no no big deal I got this and I just all you have to do is say yes, and and then pray listen and follow follow my voice. I will take care of everything I will arrange everything in your perceptual world if you just listen and follow. And the Varleys were good examples of that they, I wouldn't describe them as intellectuals they were just like devoted practitioners of following and facing their resistances to Jesus and facing their emotional struggles, kind of day to day like we do and that's going as part of these online courses. And then we have a pilot course going right now. And then we have an academy starting up I think it's April 5, like you said and then as we move into the summer, we could be dripping dripping in very interactive retreats that are basically online retreats with lots of engagement lots of participation and I think our whole ministry is in that sense we still have our monasteries and we still have our extensions through the church but this is really going to the heart of mysticism for those that basically are saying I'm not guided right now to leave my place of residence or I'm not guided to leave my situation, but I my heart is calling for this and this is something I can jump into right now. And I think that's a beautiful thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, it feels such like such an honor to be part of this and just it's like the answer to my calling to just keep opening up to this experience, even while you were talking a little while ago I was like starting to go into a mystical experience I was like, Whoa, everything's getting very like the kingdom of heaven really is here it's just like beyond the veil that like kind of thirst to shine through and yeah I just want to learn to trust in that fully that I can let go of everything else all the past learning and yeah I'm just so grateful for you. That's beautiful. That's happened in a lot of getters where people in the middle of the talk, they've even raised their hand and said I'm drifting off I'm, I'm going into a mystical experience is that all right I said yeah. And then yes, when you come back tell us all what the what wisdom you have to share with us, but you're safe now keep going. And I think even this past week wasn't it this past Saturday I showed Solaris. Oh my gosh that I got an email the next day of someone who felt like they were just going into the mystic and they were in a teaching or a sermon from Jesus they just went in their mind, what went way off into the expansiveness with it then. I'm like, great great wonderful. We're encouraging that we're not encouraging people necessarily to try to reach it through through drugs or through there's a lot of ways that actually the spirit can use but but we're basically focusing on prayer. I think life of devoted prayer and learning to come into your heart chamber and make a deep connection with your spirit through your intuition and then just follow that intuition. And if that resonates with you then, wow, that's good we all we're all holding hands and joining joining in that that prayer. Thank you so much David for this time this has been such a treat and yeah for all of you who are watching if you're interested just go to the hyphen Christ net and you'll see our tribe of Christ Community link and the mystical Christ Academy coming up April 5. We have an early bird discount if you sign up by March 26 you get 20% off. So yeah check out the Christ net and and we hope to see you soon we'll be we'll be doing I think tomorrow night like I said we're doing a live session in tribe of Christ. It'll be our first like major live session with everyone who's been involved in this whole project so I think that's going to be pretty pretty fun and lively. So yeah we were thinking maybe 6pm mountain and central time. Yeah, so if you're on the East East Coast what is that around the. That might be seven o'clock Eastern if it's six o'clock central. I, or no if it's no you're right. Yeah mountain. Yeah, you're right. Two hours later. Yeah, so you're on the East Coast. It's like eight o'clock tomorrow night. So if you're going to tune into Facebook and YouTube all of our platforms or you're at central time or mountain time, tune in around six and if you're out there in California and Seattle, Portland, you know, the West Coast. That's going to be like five, five o'clock. Make when you make it home from work, you're working. It's going to be a great, great broadcast. Yeah. Yeah, thank you so much, David. Thank you everyone for watching. Thank you all.


وَأَقُولُ فِي القُرْعَانِ مَا جَاءَتْ بِيهِ اَيَاتُوهُ فَهُوَ الْكَارِيمُ الْمُنْزَالُوْ وَأَقُولُ قَالَ اللَّهُ جَلَّ جَلَالُوْهُ وَالْمُصْطَافَ الْهَاديِ وَلَا أَتْ أَوَّالُوْ الحمد لله رب العالمين له الحمد الحسن والثناء الجميل وأشد أن لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له وأشد أن سيدنا ونبينا محمد صلى الله عليه وعليه وعلى آله وأصحابه والتابعين لهم بإحسان إلى يوم الدين أما بعد إن شاء الله تعالى لأخر 10 سنوات إن شاء الله تعالى سوف نضع تفسير القرآن ونحن نفعل إن شاء الله تعالى رولين بحيث ترغب الكسف الإنقام ومالذي يجعله أشخاص بها إن شاء الله تعالى every week is going to be a topic and it's a series إن شاء الله تعالى and each of those 10 weeks we will take 40 to 45 minutes if it goes on for a bit then it will be an hour maximum إن شاء الله تعالى but I don't want it to reach an hour yes half an hour even the better because the point is that the information reaches and it's not about lengthening something that should be done in a very short concise sit إن شاء الله تعالى my beloved brothers and sisters you all know we're in this dunya and this dar that we're in right now this dunya it's a means to another world this world the scholars they call it the place where we we garden we have to harvest and reap in the crops and the fruits is the day of judgment but in order for those fruits that we reap those fruits that we pick the day of judgment to be juicy to be good what is required from us is while in this world we come with two important traits two important things the first thing is beneficial knowledge and the second one is in this dunya the two things that are required from you are beneficial knowledge والعمل الصالح and a righteous action and if you're a dunya and this world that you're living in you come with these two your آخر will be success and prosperity the evidence that beneficial knowledge is needed is is the last so subsidies God God والعمل الله God الشکر الله الله وقد قمت بعمل سبع سبع أث الله الذي خلق سبع سماوات ومن الأرض مثلهم يتنزل الأمر بينهم اللهم يأتي من السبع إلى السبع لماذا فعلت ذلك؟ لماذا فعلت سبع أث؟ لماذا فعلت سبع أث؟ لماذا فعلت سبع أث؟ اللهم يقول لتعلمه، لذلك لديك المعرفة ماذا؟ أن الله على كل شيء قدير أن الله يدفع كل شيء وأن الله قد أحاط بكل شيء علماء وأن الله يتعلم كل شيء في تفهم وعلم لذلك لذلك why Allah has created all of this هذا العالم وكل شيء that is in it is that we have knowledge نعلمة ومعرفة هذا هو Our purpose of why Allah created us اللهم الذي خلقه لذلك from the purpose of why we are created is to have knowledge نعلمة ومعرفة The evidence to show that we need to come with action is the famous ayah that we all know وما خلقت للجنة والإنسة إلا إلا ليعبدون and this ayah is an evidence for righteous action that Allah is saying subhanahu wa ta'ala I created the jinn or more like Allah says subhanahu wa ta'ala I did not create the jinn all the ins except to worship me meaning to come with righteous action and the best righteous action is to worship Allah alone are we all together? العلم النافح والعمل الصالح و لذلك الله تباركة عليه تودس في القرآن هو الذي أرسل رسوله بالهوداء و دين الحق ليضغيره على الدين كله الله سمط down بله محمد not only him but all of the previous prophets with these two things that I just mentioned beneficial knowledge and righteous action هو الذي أرسل رسوله بالهوداء a large quantity of they said هو الذي أرسل رسوله بالهوداء و دين الحق ليضغيره على العمل الصالح with those two الله تباركة عليه تودس في القرآن ليضغيره على الدين كله all of the religions Islam and the Muslims will be apparent over it when they come with those two beneficial knowledge righteous action you will have the upper hand when you have beneficial knowledge and righteous actions الله أصول سيد سبحانه وتعالى when talking about the mission of نبي الله محمد and all the other previous prophets الله سيد سبحانه وتعالى يسبح لله ما في السموات و ما في الأرض الملك القدوس العزيز الحكيم هو الذي بعت في الأميين رسول منهم هو الذي بعت في الأميين رسول منهم يتروا عليهم آياتي و يزكيهم و يعلمهم الكتاب والحكمة و إن كانوا من قبل لفي الظلال مبين الله يقول لنا that He sent نبي الله محمد to do what يعلمهم الكتاب teaches them the book knowledge و يزكيهم means what to bring them to come to righteous action يزكيهم and purifies them and He makes sure that their action is pure that they're not associative partners with Allah in their actions once they have that what are they upon once the people come with knowledge that the Prophet came with انهم يتائبون على مدينة تأكيداتهم هل يتائبون بما؟ تائبون على مدينة تأكيداتهم تأكيداتهم هناك معاً تأكيدة أضل والجهل يكيدة أضل وازمان كيف يمكنك أن تأكيدات أضل وازمان ردو and أكتب فأجل إبن القيم يقول شيء جديد هنا رحمة الله ورحمة الله يقول ما هو المدينة الأسخية التي يجب يجب من كل شيء because knowledge is vast.  What is the bare minimum that is required from you? The bare minimum he said is that which brings about certainty. And the bare minimum of righteous action that is required from you is that which brings about Sabbath patience. And ابن القيم then said With patience and certainty you will reach leadership. Because Allah said in the ayah Now the question that you guys might ask is that What does this all have to do with the topic that we're going to talk about? Islamic finance Buy and selling requires beneficial knowledge and righteous action. You have to know before you buy or you sell you have to have knowledge in order for your actions in buying and selling to be accurate. If this dunya that you're living in today doesn't have those two traits beneficial knowledge and righteous action it's the dunya that Allah does not like سبحانه وتعالى And to Allah it has no value And some scholars they say it's not a student but it's a jamia It's not a student but it's a jamia And it was an Imam who narrated on the authority of المستوري ديبلو شداد He said المستوري ديبلو شداد is a companion He said I was with the prophet And I was with the companions of the prophet who stood over the caravan who were with the caravan I mean I was with the processor's caravan And we were this caravan We stood over with the messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم على سحلة الميتتي Over a dead lamb He said المستوري ديبلو شداد Was with the prophet And a group of men were with the prophet as well When we stood over a dead lamb Now the prophet wants to educate the companions Was to teach them And nurture them Cultivate them So the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم He said to the companions Do you see this dead lamb The prophet grabbed it from the ear And he lifted it Now remember brothers And keep this in mind This dead lamb Is dysfunctional Even when it was alive It wasn't fully It didn't have its full limbs And full body parts Okay So when it lived It had no value And now that it's dead The value is going to even lower right The prophet grabbed it Took it by the ear And lifted it And he said to his companions أترون هذه Do you see this dead lamb هانت على أهلها This dead lamb Lost value In the eyes of its owners It became insignificant In the eyes of the people who owned it حين ألقوها When they tossed it And they threw it Onto the earth like this It lost value قالوا the companions They said من هوانها ألقوها يا رسول الله The reason why they threw it Onto the earth like this And they dismissed it And tossed it Onto the earth like this Is because of it Becoming insignificant It lost value to them And the prophet Said صلى الله عليه وسلم A statement that we all need to remember The prophet said فدنيا أهوان وعالله من هذه على أهلها The dunya to Allah Is more insignificant Than this dead lamb Was to its people What dunya is this referring to What type of dunya is this Is the dunya that lacks And doesn't have in it Beneficial knowledge and righteous action The prophet told us صلى الله عليه وسلم Something even greater Which Precisely proves my point That if this dunya That you're living in Does not have beneficial Knowledge and righteous action And you're not coming with that Every day That this dunya That you're living in And your day-to-day income And what you're making Is actually cursed على الإسانة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم This is on the tongue Of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم رواه الترميدي الإمام الترميدي And narrated وابن ماجة من حديث أبي هوريرا On the authority of أبو هوريرا أبو هوريرا Said what سمعت I heard The messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم And said الدنيا ملعونة That this dunya Is cursed ملعون ما فيها This dunya And everything in it Are cursed And the Arabs And the scholars And the people of knowledge They said that The word اللعنو means اطرض من رحمة الله That Allah's mercy Is distanced from you سبحانه وتعالى And who from amongst us Does it when Allah's mercy This dunya Is cursed And everything in it Is cursed The prophet Gave only two exceptions Beneficial Knowledge And righteous action Look what he said He said إلا ذكر الله وما ولاها Rememberance of Allah Which is righteous action وعالما أو متعالما Or a person of knowledge A scholar A learned person Or a person who is seeking knowledge إلا ذكر الله وما ولاها وعالما أو متعالما Two comes are only mentioned A people came with righteous action By remembering Allah in their actions And what they are doing And the second one is عالما أو متعالما Or a person who is seeking knowledge If you are not any of those two You are under those who are cursed Who is saying this Maybe Allah The person brothers Who buys Who sells And has no knowledge of what he is buying And sells He has never studied Islamic finance He has never studied Buyur He is from the people Allah hates سبحانه وتعالى He falls under The people Allah تبارك وتعالى Hates الإمام ابن حبان رated in his صحيح من حديث أبي وغوريرا That the messengers صلى الله عليه وسلم They said إن الله يبغض Allah hates سبحانه وتعالى كل جعظري جواظن Allah hates A people who have these characteristics Please listen to these characteristics Allah hates them Who are they كل جعظري Every individual Who is a Savaged Uncivilized Individual جعظري A person who is uncivilized He is a savage In his dealings In the way he is A savage جواظ جواظ is يحرص على جمع المهلي بمية فهسدة It's a person who tries to bring money together by whom is necessary I need money I don't care where I get it from Where it comes to me from And the intent behind it is evil He either wants to brag and boast To the people He wants to harm the people He wants to His money Where it comes from How he attains it And where he spends it He doesn't care He is a جواظ Allah hates him So the first one is what The first one is جعظري Uncivilized When you deal with him He has no basic manners جواظ He is an individual Whose mission in life Is to collect money That's all he lives for سخاب بالأسواق He screams And he shouts in the market My card costs five pounds My card costs five pounds My card costs five pounds And he shouts Allah hates that person Who shouts in the market To sell his product It's a characteristic Allah who subhanahu و تعالى hates We see that, right? There are people who Have a table in the market Some of them even got microphones And they're shouting in the market They're screaming They're raising their voices And they're repeating In the market The price of their product That they are selling Allah hates them سخاب بالأسواق If you want to sell Sell your products with maturity And in silence Why does everyone have to hear it? If everybody does it If everybody brings a microphone What will happen in the market? You can imagine The problem and the hardship It will cause the people Look at these characteristics The profit goes on to sell جيفة تنبيللي When he sleeps at night He's like a dead corpse At night He goes to a bed Runs home Throws himself into his bed And he's like a dead corpse He wakes up for work Maybe he doesn't pray قيامولين Doesn't pray Maybe even فجر He's a jifa A jifa means a corpse Because the mu'min brother Even when he's sleeping And he turns around He makes zikr He's aware of his turning And he's tossing This individual is like a jifa Dead corpse He doesn't know what Snows through the whole night حمار بالنهار The hadith says And the way he is In the daytime Is like a donkey حمار بالنهار The way he works At the daytime سبحان الله سبحان الله أكارن Everything on his back Pushing it Taking it Hustling Buying Give it to me What did you get it for? Okay wait for me I'm going to run to the market And I'll get you the Better price for you Wait Runs حمار بالنهار He's a donkey When it comes to his ethics And the way he works Hard working person علم He's a scholar He's reached درجة العلم He's a scholar He's a scholar In what like in بعمري دنيا مات is related to this دنيا If you ask him What the different prices are In the market He will tell you He knows the currency Daily Where they are Daily currency And the changes of the dollars And the pounds He knows all of that He will check up on that He will do that He knows that علم He's a scholar بعمري دنيا If you ask him about The matters related to the دنيا He will even tell you If a currency is fake Or if it's forgery If it's real money By looking at it from the top Saying Don't bring it to me Don't bring it to me That's what a man wants to do that Without touching it Looking at it from the top He said Don't bring it to me It's not real money I know it is He's علم بعمري دنيا The Hadith goes on to say جاهل بعمري الآخرة If you ask him About basic issues Related to the religion That he's ignorant He'll say to you I don't know I've never studied It's very hard for me To learn these things They're very complicated Complicated Look how You're good at the modifications And look how good you are When it comes to money And detailed issues Related to business You are ignorant About issues Related to the آخرة Has no knowledge Allah This person Was these characteristics Allah dislikes him سبحانه وتعالى What does he lack? He lacks knowledge He doesn't know about the آخرة And we'll come to that Insha'Allah وتعالى Soon Brothers, it's very important That you gain Islamic knowledge Related to issues Of the Deen And we'll speak about more What we mean by that But ألمان مبنوما Generating في سنانه من حديفي أنا سبنوما لك That the Prophet ﷺ has said طالب العلم فريضة على كل مسلم Seeking knowledge Is a duty upon every Muslim To gain knowledge To attain knowledge Is a duty And a responsibility Upon every single Muslim Everyone should learn Don't go to the market And sell Don't go to the market And buy If you have no knowledge Well there كحسن البصري رحم الله Expanding on the meaning He said the following He said The person Who acts With no knowledge He acts With no knowledge كسالك على غير طريق He's like a person Who's treading a path With no knowledge A person who's treading a path Or he wants to reach somewhere Without taking a path for it Taking the wrong path والعامل على غير علم And a person Who works Without knowledge You see أكثر من ما يصبح He will corrupt more Than he will bring about any good And the individual Who does things Good heart He wants the best But he has no knowledge He will corrupt more Than he will bring about any good Even though he has the intention Of doing good But he doesn't know So he corrupt more حسن البصري He went on to say رحم الله تعالى فطلوب العلم Go and seek knowledge طالباً A seeking لا تضر بالعبادة Which will not harm Your Your عبادة Your action Again look at this Some people they seek knowledge And then it reaches a point That their knowledge Has no implementation So we harm The knowledge became An obstacle From their عبادة You don't see them pray They don't pray They don't pray They don't remember Allah They don't have weird Qur'an that they recite daily They don't have علاقة with Allah In their actions They carry books all day Don't let your knowledge Harm your عبادة وطلوب عبادة And then go And seek عبادة Come with عبادة طالباً تضر بالعلم But don't let your عبادة تسوي you away from Gaining knowledge Some people say What's the objective of knowledge This is what they will say This is their argument They will say to you What is the objective of knowledge And then you'll say to them عبادة Righteous action So I'm already doing righteous action Why do I need to put myself In a situation of gaining knowledge Has no muscle Is refuting that Because the same way That action is an ultimate goal So is knowledge Is an ultimate goal as well Both of them Knowledge There's an amount that is an objective As much as there is an amount In actions Which is an objective So don't let your seeking Of knowledge Get in the way of your actions And don't let your actions Get in the way of what You're seeking of knowledge Look within He said Powerful statement He said فا إلا قوماً A people طالب العبادة They went to seek عبادة وطرق العلم And they left actions Sorry They left knowledge There were a people Who went And tried to come with عبادة They tried to come with Righteous action But they didn't seek knowledge They never sought knowledge They went and they did عبادة With no knowledge What happened to them حتى خرجوا Until they came out بأسيا فيهم With their souls على أمة محمد أفضل أمة There were people Who just went to actions No importance to knowledge It's a waste of time Would you benefit from knowledge Or you just learn His opinions and views What benefit does it hold I don't need that I just want to do عبادة And because they only start to عبادة What did they do حسنة بسوط He said He said It reached a point Where they came out Onto the أمة of نبي محمد With their souls And permitted for themselves The bloods of the Muslims He said They're not Muslims كفار كفار كفار Or because they didn't take The path of seeking knowledge حتى خرجوا بأسيا فيهم على أمة محمد And they look for حسنة بسوط ولو طالب العلم If they were to go And to seek Islamic knowledge لم يدوا لهم على ما فعلوا Knowledge will never Have instructed them To do such actions The knowledge brothers Is two types There is a knowledge Which is called فروض وعيان Individual obligation Everybody has to know For themselves There is a knowledge Which every single body Has to have You can't say My local Imam I just call him When I need these questions No There is an amount Of knowledge That you have to have This is called فروض وعيان و لذلك اللي عبد البر He said He said قد أجمع علماء على أن من العلم ما هو فرض المتعيين و على كل مرئ في خاصية بنفسية و منه ما هو فرض على الكفاية إذا قام به قائم سقطة فرضوه على أهل دالية الموضع He said That the scholars unanimously agreed upon That there is a knowledge That is a specific individual obligation Everybody needs to come with it themselves There is unanimously agreement upon the scholars That there is an individual knowledge That everyone needs to know What is that knowledge brothers That everyone needs to know We will come to that We are going to mention this soon The second type is فروض وكفاية إذا قام به سقطة عن الباقي There is an amount of knowledge That you don't have to personally know it And you can't ask your local imam And he can insha'Allah Give you the fatwa And the علماء And the people of knowledge فرضوه كفاية It's a communal obligation It's not an individual obligation If there is amongst the community Someone who came with this knowledge Then the obligation is lifted From the rest of the people But there is an amount of knowledge Which is فروض وعيان Everybody needs to come with it Now what we need What I want to talk about today is What is the type which is فروض وعيان From the things which are فروض وعيان Is that everybody needs to know is The five pillars of Islam The five pillars of Islam We would need to know that You also have to know The six pillars of an imam And the six pillars of the imam Everybody needs to know that What does it mean to believe in the angels You can't say I don't know There is an amount of knowledge That you have to have about the angels Are we all together The قدر There is an amount that is obligatory For you to know about it It's فروض وعيان Individual obligation The third thing that is needed from you Is الطهارة You need to know طهارة How do you do it What are the things that break your وضو You need to know What is التيامم Women have to know احكام related to الحيض وانفاس والستحابة What are the difference between these three And what do you do in each one Each and every one of those situations What is حيض How long is حيض for How do you identify what حيض is This is an amount which is obligatory Upon a woman to know فروض وعيان She can't say I don't need to know My Imam or my sister Who has this knowledge and I call her It's an individual obligation She needs to know this Also What the person needs to know Is المحرمات الخمسة The five things Allah has forbidden There are five things Allah stated in one ayah And they're called the five Prohibited things By the way these five things That are prohibited Were prohibited even in the previous Nations These five things Everybody needs to know them And it's mentioned in the ayah The Surah العراف Allah says إنما حرم ربي الفواحشة ما ظهر منها وما باطنة والإثنة والبغية بغير الحق وانتوشرك بالله ما لم ينزل به سرطانة وانتقولوا على الله ما لا تعلمون This is المحرمات الخمسة The five prohibited things Let's go through them الله تباركة عالي تقول إنما حرم ربي الفواحش الله is prohibited the فواحش The فواحش is Zina One Allah prohibited it Someone can come as a Muslim And say I didn't know Zina was Haram You have to know that Zina was Haram Are you a Muslim?  You associate partners with Allah وعزة وجلاء شركة This is what? This is a shirk And the last one is وأنتقولوا على الله ما لا تعلمون ألقولوا على الله بغير علم It is to speak about Allah with no knowledge It is to speak about Allah with no knowledge You know what the scholars They said The scholars they said These five are The Sa'ud The Sa'ud means what? The sins of these five are in the order that they are mentioned in Meaning it starts from little to high The five The first one Is the lowest And it gets worse and worse And the biggest of them is what? ألقولوا على الله بغير علم Even greater than shirk Because shirk Is speaking about Allah With no knowledge And saying about Allah That which you have no knowledge of And you don't have no understanding How can you say الله تبارك وتعالى this child تكادوا السماوات ويتفطرنا منه وتنشقوا الأرض وتخيروا الجبالوا هدى And do'وا للرحمان والدى وما ينبغي للرحمان أي التخينة والدى Say Allah is a child The creations around You couldn't even handle that And we all together brothers And the early scholars رحمة وم الله ابن القي يمنشه فيه فيه علام That غير واحد من السلف More than one imam from the salaf They all said ليحذار أحدكم أن يقول Let one of you stay away from Brothers stay away from Avoid And sisters stay away from Especially social media Has this problem It gives people this platform To speak about the deen of Allah With no knowledge Stay away غير واحد من السلف More than one imam from the salaf Said this Stay away from what أن يقول أحل الله كذا To say Allah made this halal أو حرم الله كذا Or Allah made this haram Stay away from that فيقول الله And then Allah has a response to you When you say that And he says to you كذا بتاع your Allah لم أحل كذا I never made this halal ولم أحرم And I never made this haram And we all together That you get a response From Allah Where he says to you كذا بتاع your Allah How are you speaking about me And saying Allah made this halal And Allah made this haram And Allah responds to you And he says to you I never made this halal Why are you lying to me Or I never made this haram وليذلك If you look at the early generation The salaf of this Ummah The pious predecessors They used to even avoid the word حلالا حرام Because of the ayah ولا تقول لما تصف ألسنا تقوم الكذب هذا حلال وهذا حرام اللي تفتروا على الله الكذب إن الذين يفترون على الله الكذب لا يفلحون They used to stay away from saying حلالا حرام وليذلك If you look at the Qualub لما مشافعي وليما مالك وليما محمد And others They would stay away from saying حلالا حرام And so what would they say instead They would say أكرا قراها They would say that avoid using a أكرا means dislike Because they were shy And they didn't want to Speak on behalf of Allah عز وجل So stay away from them Also brothers One of the things that fall under the فروض عيان The individual obligation That everybody needs to know Especially the one who is trading And he's doing business is أحكام المعاملات التي تحسر بينه وبين الناس خصوص رب الممال The dealings That take place between you and the creation The things that you and the people are doing with one another The buying, the selling The dealings that happen between you and people You have to have knowledge of it You have to have علم of it A perception of it And those dealings Can be dealings related To you and your spouse You've got a wife And you're married What you need to do is You need to learn the أحكام What is for you And what is against you Because this isn't The معاملات It's a dealings, transaction What can you do And what can't you do Also you're dealings With your neighbors As a transaction Also you're dealings With your what Your business partner And the business That you're doing And the contracts That you're signing And what is this contract Based on Subhan Allah It's عجيب It's عجيب That you find people They have consultants Big companies True or false They've got advisors Who tell them And advise them Where they should Invest their money into صحيح They will say There's come a nice venture An opportunity Has risen I'm your personal advisor I do the marketing I study the market I study How money is flowing And where it's all going I have seen That now The investment should be directed In this particular venture And put it Okay He puts his money in there لكن Little do you find A person who has A Mufti A person of Islamic knowledge Who sits on that board Who gives fatwa Whether it's حلال Or حرام For them to do this transaction Or not أليسا كدريك Is that not the case? Have a person of Islamic knowledge Who sits on the board Who's consulted Not after the dealings Has been done Not after the contracts And be signed Before anything has been done It's been brought to them And they are taking Their advice is taken on board And what they point out And what they mention is taken on board Do many people do that? Rather sometimes You see That people will come to you And ask you for a fatwa And a question And you look at their contract And you look at their dealings And you look at their business plan You look at everything And you realize This has This has nothing to do with Islam And to now try to solve the problem Becomes very complicated And hard due to what reason brothers The whole entire structure In which this business Is built upon is wrong ولي ذلك Look at this عمر بن الخطاب He said لا يبق في سوقنا إلا من قد تفقها في ديني أواه تلمدي وصحح والالباني The Prophet said صلى الله عليه وسلم أقول عمر ضيلا عمر عمر عمر عمر رضي الله عليه وسلم One should not sell in our market Do not sell in the market Do not trade The market today can be seen as the what The actual market And also the online marketing as well لا يبيع Don't buy yourself في سوقنا إلا من قد تفقها في ديني Except a person who has thick of these things آخر رواية عمر رضي الله عليه وسلم وإلا أكل ذبق شعب أبا That person will fall into the river whether he likes it or not Because he has no knowledge He comes to the market He buys himself He is most likely going to fall into the river whether he likes it or not He doesn't want to He doesn't intend to fall into the river of course But he will because he has no knowledge He has no thick of it عمر رضي الله عليه وسلم That person Is the river something very light brothers? من الكبا From the major sins It's one of the greatest sins here It's a group from the great sins And the person who is trading in the river What does the Sharia say about him What does the Quran and the Sunnah The people who are doing the river Are in a direct war with Allah Who is going to with that battle brothers?   Are you going to put this money into their mouth? عليبنا بيطاريبن He said something like that He said من تجراء Anyone who trades قبل أن يتفقها Before he lands Before He lands Before he buys it ارتطم في الربا ثمرتطم ثمرتطم ايوقع في الربا عليبنا بيطاريبن Said anyone who trades Before he has any Islamic knowledge of it ارتطم في الربا ثمرتطم ثمرتطم He will fall into ربا He will fall into ربا He will fall into ربا He will fall into ربا He is repeating himself three times And so it's important brothers And sisters If you have money And you want to trade You want to do business فنع المهي What a good thing that you're trying to do And it's a blessing that you want to do that And it's a halal thing that you're doing Try to find out the احكام related to business And related to buying and selling At least learn what The things that are halal are too much So you don't need to study what is halal What do you study at least The prohibited elements in Islamic finance At least study what are haram And the evidence related to that So you can avoid this صحيح brothers What is prohibited Anything which I have said That was wrong or incorrect This from me and Shaytan سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك أشهد والله إله إلا الله أستغفر أكثر إن شاء الله next week we're going to do another proportion like that this was for today's session إن شاء الله فرارك الله