Okay. Good morning and welcome everyone. We've been learning about the steps of deliverance. So we'll complete that today. Let's pray and get into the class. I would like to request Rin, can you lead us in prayer please? Good for this day Lord and Lord as we come together to study, to learn about your words and Lord I pray that you open our hearts and our minds and that we will be able to understand what is being taught and the thing which is that you're here with us and that you'll help us. In your name I pray. Amen. Amen. So thank you even those who have connected online for connecting. In the last class we saw the Pablo Botari 10-step model for deliverance. We were able to go on till about 0.7 I think, 7 or 8. Yeah, we, sorry, 7. Yeah, till 0.7. So we will look at the other points today and see if we can also kind of complete the rest of our portions. Essentially in the 10 steps what we have understood is to first of all bring the spirit under subjection then you ensure that the person accepts Christ okay and then identify the source of the problem then you deal with that open door you close that open door then you rebuke the spirit right. So when we rebuke the spirit what happens or we try to cast out that spirit once we have dealt with the demonic powers it becomes very easy for us to actually cast the spirit out. So in 7 we were talking about repentance if there is unforgiveness renouncing remember those terms renouncing when we renounce we have to speak aloud because facts with Satan that have been made must be broken through verbal affirmations that I no longer belong to you I belong to Jesus and all that that needs to be spoken. So then we pray with the person concerned and we help that person to actually break those those packs and that way the doors will be closed and then the unclean spirits will not be able to enter right they are actually when the practice broken legally they don't have a place to stay in so they actually they should just come out also like even if you don't come and once the person has made that commitment it is possible that they already feel free but then we will still continue to come and ask that spirit to come out and once the person is free what we can do is we can encourage them in thanksgiving in praise to God so we may pray with them and say okay let's thank God Jesus has set you free you you can walk in freedom now so now that they're experiencing that new sense of freedom they'll also feel joy so pray together with them sing together with them praise together with them and in this way we kind of encourage them and the important thing is to also lead them in the baptism in the Holy Spirit and I explain the reason last time because those demon spirits like Matthew chapter two they'll go out they'll come back stronger with seven stronger spirits so it is better that the person is filled with the word of God and with the Holy Spirit so you pray with them and ask for the baptism in the Holy Spirit so now with this we have completed our 10 steps and what has happened we close the doors the demons came out but now is a very very important and crucial step in deliverance ministry that is post ministry care post ministry care so in deliverance in all other ministries which we do suppose we don't get a chance I mean in every ministry there should be something we do to help the person isn't it for example if people get saved then even then we will try to see can they be a part of a church can they be with a good pastor can they grow in the Lord we need to take up certain steps so that in the long run the believer continues in the Lord the same way for deliverance once the demon spirit has come out post ministry how to make sure that this person will remain strong because in this scenario we already know from scripture that Satan is going to try again okay he will try again to come into the same space so we know that that believer may not know and what does the Bible say his his final condition will be worse than the previous condition so there are all these dangers and we cannot ignore that so in the deliverance ministry post ministry care is very very crucial you can't just leave the people understood so post ministry care we first of all they are now born again they are filled with the Holy Spirit and we connect them to a leader and we encourage them make sure you read your Bible every day make sure you pray every day go to church be a part of a good fellowship learn the word of God all that we'll do in addition to this we must tell them about the importance of forgiveness as a lifestyle because in many cases we see when a person is walking in unforgiveness bitterness that that becomes an open door for the devil so we must encourage them that okay you know as you're living your life many things will happen but make sure that you deal rightly in the relationships forgive the others release forgiveness fast so why is it even more important in this case because if they don't do that there are open doors for the enemy to come so we can help them to follow a lifestyle in which they forgive people that is one thing which we can guide them in and if they are struggling with it some more counseling can be helpful or some scriptures we take them through scriptures how the word of God tells us to resolve right if you come before God to worship and you have something against another brother you go settle it and you come so how to settle it all those things we can just guide them and we can also help them why are they in that state of unforgiveness are there any past issues so then do they need to go through some kind of therapy for that or what is it just help them ensure that they are in a better place right it emotionally now what else can we do we can encourage them keeping in line with forgiveness to deal with the hurts we all get hurt but deal with the hurts quickly because sometimes the tendency can be to hold on to the hurt and holding on to the hurt will again open the door for the enemy so deal quickly with the hurts that we may experience and one helpful thing can be accountability accountability simply means having some people in your life with whom you can open up you can share and you can also keep them informed like how are you doing so for example let's say I have been delivered from some spirit of bitterness and strife and all that now I am finding it difficult to have a forgiving heart towards people and I don't deal very well with her so after all the counseling and all the instructions for worship if let's say I am connected to one or two leaders I trust them then what I can do is I can be accountable to them every time I'm struggling with unforgiveness I can go speak to them and say hey guide me help me so accountability also is helpful you just connect them to somebody to whom they can speak share and you know feel free through this relationship so accountability can be created then personal devotion where in their everyday life they have habits like I already said reading the Bible praying worshipping now giving we can also encourage them to serve right like whatever little bit you know and God is calling you to do do be active be very active in God and in the ministry you can do that so little by little as they are doing things they feel that they're growing God and there's less opportunity for the work of the enemy in their lives and now that they are filled with the Holy Spirit we can also encourage them to pray in tongues because praying in tongues it fills you further with the Holy Spirit so all this will be very helpful to keep a person free for a long for their entire lifetime so this is how one would deal with somebody who has been delivered yeah so these are the key things so anything about anything about steps of deliverance questions that you may have or any experiences that you can relate to and you're wondering about a couple of things I can speak into the mic when we praying and demon is possessing can we use other tongues can we use tongues can we use tongues okay good question so to worship God when we are in the process of delivering you know ministering deliverance to someone we can pray in tongues but when we are praying in tongues we are praying as a personal prayer language isn't it so and I already said that demons can't understand so then how is it helpful because you cannot give instructions to the demon spirit in tongues so that's the thing as a prayer you can pray if you're getting a word with interpretation as a message you can release it no problem but for commanding the demon spirit you need a language you need you know any any language that we speak yeah so if you're speaking to the demon in tongues it won't be helpful they can't understand what you're saying so then how will you release your authority when you're saying submit you're clearly telling the devil don't do this do this come out then they won't get confused they have and whenever you say something they have to be subject to what you're saying so use a human language is a manifestation happens it will manifest no manifestation will also happen when we are breaking some soul ties or curses yes so it can happen it can happen any time actually so one of the things that I have read and I have also observed is when you're ministering to someone and you sense that there is like a demon spirit associated with their problem just just keep looking at them their facial expression changes even when you're breaking soul ties or something like that not always not always but it could happen like facial expression changes or the other day I was praying for one particular girl and just when I started till I was talking she was fine but when I started praying she just cannot sit still you know she's scratching her head and she's moving her head and her eyes are open all looking all over the place while we are praying I said let's pray so I could sense what is actually going on just observe so manifestation can be all kinds different kinds of manifestations but you should alertly just observe what's going on when you're praying and you're observing you can make out because it'll try to disturb you why should somebody do that when we all know while praying we close our eyes we okay pray with me because sometimes she was quiet and then just she just couldn't keep quiet then you understand that oh okay why this weird behavior also when people confess because I have I had an experience one time we are group of people we are worshipping and the pastor as we are worshipping he he sensed and he told like some in some of your family this is what you have practiced some kind of false prophecy witchcraft all these things against God in your family someone has practiced and you have to and it was still that the operation of the spirit is still there your maybe you won't know it as he was telling that the person he came and he like confessed yes it's in my family the moment he confessed like he fell down he got the manifestation happen yeah also happen it can happen see it can happen but it may not happen also so that is also there sometimes we are waiting oh this person is going to manifest but nothing is visible so it should be open for both just keep observing you may see some changes you may not see some changes but more I think in in whenever in deliverance know what is helpful is you pray and be more alert about what is the Holy Spirit saying like our sense what is going on in our spirit and then the confirmation to that from the things that are going on around us that is what you should give more importance to because then you'll you'll know like what is going on like you may not have peace after you prayed you feel the spirit is still there maybe there's no manifestation but within yourself you are aware so give more focus to the voice of the Holy Spirit and your ministry yeah I'm passing for this post ministry suggestions my question is why is forgiveness the first thing what if it's addiction or something else forgiveness can you come again in this post ministry suggestions why is the forgiveness the first step I mean what if yes why is forgiveness the thing for them to do like after their minister not see it's a common open door in for all of us forgiveness unforgiveness is a common open door there can be many other open doors okay but then forgiving unforgiveness tends to be the most basic which demons can use that's why we want them to be safe from that that's the reason any other questions or there's one question you have a chivakumar has asked he's saying will demons understand different languages so apart from tongues chivakumar they understand they understand languages so then we know that they understand all human languages which is why when we command them they have to respond because they understand what we are saying okay so answer is yes they understand different languages and Nina if we are dealing with a child who cannot speak and so cannot deal with the list of all things mentioned so we who are praying are doing all things on behalf of the child so we keep praying for the guidance of the Holy Spirit yes Nina if the child can't understand you yeah you just keep doing things with the Holy Spirit but when it comes to breaking dedications and things like that you can involve the parent so child doesn't understand all this but if you have the parent obviously I'm I'm thinking because this child is so small or still not mature enough to speak so you break the dedication with the parent that will help a lot if that is possible I hope your question is answered okay Jack in sex for believer living in bondages for many years is it okay to follow the post ministry suggestions only sincerely because they have already accepted the Lord Jesus as their savior or we should follow the steps as in Pablo Botari so in the case of a believer because they are not demon possessed what are they they are oppressed believers are oppressed or they can be demonized so in the case of them being demonized if I if I say you come out demon in the name of Jesus it's okay because we know there are strong holds that have been occupied by demons but generally we find oppressed believers they are not demonized okay they are oppressed so in that case you're right Jack in you don't have to go through all the steps because they're already born again they may be already filled with the Holy Spirit but we may have to talk to them about the open doors pray with them against the open doors and tell them if they continue in it can forgive us have it whatever things are giving access to the devil that they will never be free so talk to them pray with them and post ministry and so tell them see now God has set a fee but you need to continue in a godly lifestyle so you don't have to go strictly step-by-step by this model is that okay Jack in okay sure that's time thank you any anything else about deliverance how about group groups of people believers when you're casting out a demon together how does that work okay so some simple instructions could be that you may be a group let's say five people have gone together and they are casting out some stubborn demon spirit one person can give the instructions okay one person among you you can decide tell that person to give the instructions all the others can pray in the spirit all the others can declare scripture you know all the others can also give clues like no the turning of spirits hey I sense that this is going on or relation gives a prophetic word or a words knowledge make him sit down give him a cup of water something so as a team everyone is serving but only one person is giving the command why why can't everybody give the command be quiet you you demon or come out in the name of Jesus I only one person has to speak exactly the demon will get confused what should I do now one is saying sit down one is saying get up because they are subject to our authority they have to listen so if every believer is commanding this that you're stirring up the demon actually so it becomes it's not helpful best is one person take the lead all the other support that one person you decide among yourselves okay and then do it that way so in group ministry you can do that yeah okay so I'm in the same when a demon is being cast out and there are people around is there a possibility that the demon can go into them yes there is a possibility if they have open doors in their lives so as a ministry team you can actually you know you you can ask people to join you hopefully they also have faith that's why they're coming with you and they are fine right so as a team you're okay now for the family members or someone you can't tell them don't be there if they if you can tell them and they are not they're fine but if they still want to be there you just pray over them we cover them with the blood of Jesus Lord we speak your protection on the people around you can just pray for them that's all and Pascha can we use this so are these steps that we learned only for a person or can we use it over a place or city or on a place yeah like if a country or places cities demonize so how can we also minister yeah so exercising authority over territories we are coming to that next but in a sense all this issuing of commands declarations all that works even for a space a region territory also yeah when can you pass the mic to Nina so pastor you're telling if in a group sitting when you're praying this who like Ananda's that demon can go to another person so this demon knows like the other person have an open door they know like they can understand it from out they can understand you will this demon it goes to the person with an open door he that demon can understand that these the okay the other person is having an open door or he's see they are actively looking for a space so they will understand who has an open door who doesn't mean they they are more than happy they'll be searching for a space but all I'm saying is don't get worried about it because we are going in prayer so we've covered the people in our prayer so don't worry about it frankly for them distance also doesn't matter no if they are close they are in the room or they are sitting in the next room same thing they can go from here to there but just pray over them and speak the covering of the blood of Jesus I couldn't hear you at all we are talking about loopholes yeah we're talking about loopholes unbelievers yeah unbelievers have many loopholes that's true why won't they be demonized easily yeah they can be demonized if it if it goes and makes some place it's home obviously it will either whatever it'll manifest or not manifest but it's dwelling over there isn't it so what I'm saying is any man believers have loop if they have loopholes then it can easily affect them right so another thing which you can follow is you can just while you have the opportunity to counsel this person if possible you can do it in a group setting also you know what I mean about Jesus you share about Jesus to everyone you ask everyone to accept Christ right you ask everyone to be filled with the Holy Spirit and then you go ahead and cast up the demon from this person so that also is a possibility yeah yes yes it's easier for a demon to enter an unbeliever than a believer very correct because legally they cannot into a believer but if there are open doors yes they would yeah so the question is is every unbeliever because it's easy for demon spirits to access unbelievers is every unbeliever possessed by demons answer is no they can be oppressed it depends it depends on the unbeliever also now if they are not having you know all these open doors habits there are people who live very righteous also isn't it so then they're not providing any open doors but because they are not covered Satan can oppress them in many ways oppression can keep happening okay position may not happen for some unbelievers but yeah it's easier for unbelievers to be oppressed possessed compared to believers yeah why does it sometimes take much time for us to cast out demons so as I said earlier that interview process remember see I've not given any time for this Pablo Botari model so in our minds it's like ha we have one hour we'll do step one step two step three and then we'll reach step ten it may not be the case steps one to ten may happen in two days time or it can happen over one week you understand so it depends on a lot of things and especially in the interview that that particular step what is the core issue why did this person get affected if we are not able to find out that also take long somewhere outside see here's some meeting and I am only in church and my brother is there so one family came and with his wife so she is crippled her body is very crippled and she is not in conscious and I prayed and his teeth is fully tight I prayed after praying normal she is speaking and we all think like it gone but after that same thing happened so that day it's very difficult for pastor to come back at time so he came tomorrow full night they were in church and we are in church and we are sleeping and sometimes she is telling like they are coming to take me and they are telling like she's saying many things and like that so I'm praying it going for like one hour rest after that same thing so till morning and morning pastor came he prayed and it gone and normal they went home till three days maybe this things happen and after three days she is now fine yeah so it can take time that's what I'm saying because sometimes we rebuke but the door is not closed then these demons come back they try to manifest in the same way so it can be very frustrating but we have to keep persevering okay we may have to counsel the person we may have to find out maybe they'll share few things but they won't share everything what is going on in their lives so according to you you found out what you should pray against but actually no there is something else unless Holy Spirit reveals we don't know what to address isn't it so so many things are there so it may not be so straightforward praise God for times when it is one one step finished but there are times when it may take a couple of days a couple of weeks even what you can do is you can I've heard people say this they pray over the person they try right all these steps they just try if it's not working they just bind the demon I bind you in the name of Jesus you will not afflict this family anymore I speak protection over this family I speak protection over this child you just pray and you close the session then next day come start again you got it so they use this thing of binding that demon and then restart again the next day because the demon is still there we are not done till it's out so that's how some people do it also so see this also take some practice as I've been saying no listen to the Holy Spirit be sensitive to the Holy Spirit observe the circumstances we will get the peace that yes it's all done it's fine then it's okay but because we still have post ministry keep in touch tell the person I will meet you after two days let's meet again let's meet after one week so also when the demon leaves let's just take example depression one demon of depression it's not psychological a demon of depression you cast it out person looks settled happy peaceful after two days when you meet also they are peaceful after one week if you mean that means what demon is gone person has changed okay so this way one is the witness of the spirit second is through their life itself you'll understand that demon is not working anymore it's gone so like slowly we'll understand what exactly is happening yeah that's how yeah a person can be possessed by many demons true so if there are many demons do they leave one by one that legion demon that Jesus cast out for we are many it says I think only once he commanded right and they all left so they can all leave at once no that's also in practical deliverance ministry I have heard that as well that once you cast out demon of lust next you cast out you know demon of fear one by one one by one you keep casting out it happens this way also that way also so there's no formula for this and I want to tell us in the beginning we said everything is not demon possession isn't it so sometimes when we have cast out a demon the demon may leave but psychologically that person can behave the same way you know what I mean it's not a demon anymore it's a it's a behavior of the person so we should be able to distinguish between these things because they've learned something it comes through like manifestation each time you understood so then you don't have to be casting it out because demon has gone but this is the person they need therapy they need counseling they may even need medication so I remember this one situation it was a little scary so this particular individual manifesting okay behaving weird speaking weird things and a couple of us actually on our team we were trying to help we were trying to pray I tried to minister deliverance after everything it's just getting worse it's getting worse we were getting updates from her colleagues that no now she's saying this she's saying that but then thank God you know we have people like Jean on our team so Jean helped us she identified no it's it's a it's a disorder the child has a disorder so we need to help we need to help but it's not about casting out a demon okay so then thank God we found the right person we had to take her to therapist and medication and person was under medication for some time and once the medication was administered the the mental condition was stable so what is the meaning they needed medication you understood so this is a mistake that a lot of us believers do we think everything is demon but may be a person really needs help they have some physiological issues that even after you cast it out repeatedly if something is happening be alert do they need help do they need medical help it is a valid question sometimes when you help people medically they improve it's just a medical problem you know what I mean so there's nothing un-christian about helping people with medication okay so should not misunderstand as demon possession yeah so that is also there right sometimes when we go like for prayer sometimes we deal with curse so how can we how what is the proper way to deal with the situation yes ma'am because I know in Uttarakhand in one family is there so we went there so what is their situation is whatever new thing they buy they will get fire they will burn itself no one is doing anything but it will burn everything new thing they will buy and in night stones in their homes fall down like that type of situation so like my pastor told it will be like curse so I want to ask like how can we deal with curse yeah there is one Bible verse yeah it is Proverbs 26 and verse 2 it says like a fluttering sparrow or a darted swallow an undeserved curse does not come to rest simply means even if a curse is pronounced on somebody there should be a reason for example they are unfaithful they are unrighteous they are doing some things and there is an open door if there is an open door the curse will be active but if there is no open door the curse will not work so when we read like numbers 2323 I think it says like there is no witchcraft against Jacob God's people even if somebody curses us it won't work one because we are in Christ second there is no open door you're walking in righteousness so that is what this passage means it means there should be something for the curse to land on others it will just not work now in this case maybe it were unbelievers or they are believers this family okay they were unbelievers correct so maybe their worship has opened the door for what is going on in their life right so there must be some reason why this is happening how is how are the demons accessing how are the demons able to do this okay so again we have to go back to that same like Pablo Botari model once you understand you lead them in a prayer of repentance I repent for not worshiping the true and living God I repent for engaging in money in wrongful ways I repent there must be something no then you lead them in repentance and what are you doing that landing ground for the curse you're destroying it then how will it land it won't land after that you take authority on that curse you break it I break it whoever said it over you I break it in the name of Jesus I command it to be destroyed you will no longer affect this family then it's fine because you've done everything now there's nothing where the demons can come and attach so they will walk in freedom now if they keep going back to those habits we can't help it now right so that's how it works curses okay so don't I mean as believers we should not get very scared some when we go to pray for people they might say all this there is a big curse some big person has put a curse you think okay it's okay doesn't matter Satan was crushed on the cross through the cross whoever put the curse okay tell me what is it I want to pray for you right because we have authority we should not get scared but yes approaching each person and ministering deliverance there is no formula you have to be alert with the Holy Spirit and you should be strong in your sense of authority faith prayerful life then we can we can deliver minister yes yeah yeah correct yeah so women is asking we pray for people who are who are affected by demons and they are set free but they go back to their old ways what can we do about such people that's when this model we have you know talk to the person help them understand see this happening because you are into all these things so then at least they will know that they should not go back to it but if they're going back to it and they're coming back saying problem has started again problem has started again then you just counsel them you tell them see I'll pray for you again we'll we'll deal with this but please don't do this again right God wants you to follow him walk with him so you need to instruct them from the Word of God now after doing all this a couple of times they are still repeating you don't take but I mean you don't put it on your blame yourself for it because you know we can't control people right we can only give them instructions and suggestions but it happens many times you feel sad that we have the answers in the word but people are still doing correct correct and we can't force so that's how it is okay good I think an insightful discussion many practical things we have learned so praise God for that seems like I'll have to do one more class I was hoping today will be the last class but I have to do one more class which is fine would it be okay if I do an online class next Wednesday it's fine okay so we'll just do one online class and then we are through with our portions so let's pray and close for now could somebody please pray Jesus Lord we thank you for this time a lot father that you have given a lot father to discuss and to learn a lot father thank you for the new insights that you have given us a lot father thank you for a lot of the knowledge that you have poured into us a lot father Jesus we ask for the faith a lot father help us a lot father not to this reason but to take it and apply a lot father in our lives Lord Jesus and help us a lot father to grow more in your word a lot father to see your power manifesting through us a lot father God and Jesus we thank you for this class a lot father everything that we have learned a lot father fully spirit that you be with us you guide us a lot father to use it in the right thing that was needed a lot father we give you all the glory and honor in Jesus and we thank you thank you everyone by for now we'll connect next Wednesday thank you


Hello and good afternoon everybody. My name is Jan Gerlach. I am a lead public policy manager at the Wikimedia Foundation, which is the nonprofit that hosts Wikipedia and we are an affiliated participant in the network of centers. The network of centers has built the tradition of meeting at the annual Internet Governance Forum. Unfortunately, this year we cannot be all in one place, so we're meeting our friends and allies remotely. I'm today delighted to be joined here by Wolf Lo from the International Center for Ethics in Science and Humanities at the University of Tübingen. And Wolf will talk to me a little bit about what he does at his center, where they are based, what upcoming projects they have, and how other centers in the network of centers can participate. Hello Wolf. Thank you so much for joining me today. Hi Jan. I'm really happy to meet you. Thanks a lot for having me. And thanks a lot that we can be now part at the network. That's a very recent, as of last week, I think. Congratulations. Yeah. And yeah, my name is Wolf Lo. I'm currently a postdoc at EZV, the International Center for Ethics in the Sciences and Humanities. We generally, I myself am mostly in doing research in ethics regarding AI, regarding media, social media, democracy, public sphere, but also social robotics, these kind of things. So philosophy of technology, ethics of technology in the broad sense. That sounds like a lot, but maybe we can come to this, that there are a lot of connections in these things, not least of them privacy, which is one of my main focus. I'm trained in philosophy. And I've been working at the Center for a little bit more than two years now. Yeah, in the center, it's, it's interdisciplinary research center at the University of Tübingen in Germany. Very nice, small student town, a little bit south of Stuttgart for the people that have some geography ideas. And we are generally interdisciplinary, we exist for now 25 years, I think we started off a lot with biomedical ethics, genetic engineering, these kind of things in the 90s, but have evolved ever since. We combine a lot of researchers from philosophy, social science, especially political science, environmental studies, but also biology, theology. So there's, we're diverse bunch in this respect. The EZV itself has about 60 staff members right now, we do about 30 third party funded projects right at the moment. So we're mainly third party funded a lot of German Ministry of Education and Science things but also other ministries EU Horizon 2020. The whole thing. The research group that the working group that I am part of that deals mainly with media ethics and information technology. There we combine media ethics media philosophy with philosophy of technology technology ethics and also a lot of STS science technology and because we think that that that ethical evaluation of technology or applied ethics always needs empirical research and always needs this empirical side. And we do a lot of technology development evaluation, where we are sort of like the ethical partners in some projects on technology development project. Yeah, maybe broad scope. Very interesting. Yeah. And can you just tell me a little bit about how old is your group. You mentioned that it sits in a larger center that that looks at all the ethical questions of technology as well. In a broader sense also bioethics you mentioned I think and medical ethics. How old is your group. Well, I mean so that's also an evolving thing but we started off in the early 2000s, I would say 2004 2005 and we did in that was way before my time. And what we did in the beginning a lot of security ethics and still are also especially with digitalization and digital technology. We did a project on body scanners. We did a project on smart surveillance and security. So these kind of things we still we are still doing we're working a lot with German first responders, German Red Cross, but also police. And we're doing right now we we doing projects on fake news and these kind of things so that's, that was maybe I think the beginning but then, especially with the AI. One could probably say hi. And, and then also the hype in robotics, especially social robotics. We naturally turned also do to these kind of things. And so for example just to give you an idea what we, what are the kind of things that we're currently doing we're in this, in this realm of social media democracy public sphere we for example, a part of a project that's called we net. That's an EU horizon 2020 project where the idea is to develop an online platform that aims at diversity where social media interaction that means that other than Facebook or Twitter and and and what's that you're not going into these filter channels but breaking out of them. That's sort of like the main idea behind this project so this is one of those. We're doing a lot of privacy on privacy we have what is called forum privatize forum privacy with since 2014, where we did a lot of different takes on privacy in the digital age right now we last year we did something on privacy and and for the next for the next iteration of this of this project we're focusing on on privacy in the course of life. So like from young age to old age, especially the focus is on privacy and vulnerable groups. That's something that we would be also very interested to collaborate with other centers in the network, because we think that there are a lot of issues, and especially since right now our focus is more like in Germany there's also like, there's some other partners involved that do like German legal privacy data protection stuff, but we're very interested here to broaden this and invite people that that are interested in collaborating with us for example on these aspects. Is there a pandemic, a pandemic angle to this project for instance, when you talk about vulnerable groups I think nowadays whenever we talk about vulnerable groups or hear about this and at least I when I hear about this, it somehow has shifted from how we talk about this right this is a term that appears much more in I think, everyday life now and and and often what what we mean is vulnerable groups who are vulnerable to coven 19 right. Yeah, so is there is there an angle to that as well. I mean so for the for the next iteration, not in particular. I mean so it's not not focused on this. But of course, that's something that that we also think about a lot and have been involved in some aspects and things for example we started a blog right in the beginning of the coven 19 that which is unfortunately in German so it's, but oh it isn't really. Some of the, some of the blog posts are in German some of them are English from people from the center, their own take on the coven 19 crisis and related aspects. I think I had two posts in that for example, one on on triage and racial discrimination. But that's like, you know, for this for this privacy for privacy focus that's not a that's not really a focus for us there right now. Yeah, for example something else that you know I can talk about because it's something that I've been involved or I am involved. I've been in a project where the idea was developed like social companion robots for elderly. I looked especially at the privacy aspects and it's very interesting to see that a lot of robotics still and and robot ethics still is not about privacy, which I find. I don't know. I'm always surprised because I mean so there is some talk about this but the main focus of people that do research and privacy, especially in the philosophical. In the philosophical sense is more on the internet or on on smartphones and people that do robot ethics are typically not interested in privacy.  And we're trying to develop I wrote a couple of papers that hopefully will come out anytime on how to, you know, design interaction with elderly people on how to, you know, make give them the even the possibility to have something like informed you're not even talking about people that are that have, you know, some cognitive issues we're talking about people that that are not tech technology savvy that maybe have a problem with hearing or speaking. And you don't have to have like big and then, you know, just like with Alexa you turn it on and then everything goes on and, you know, it from then on it'll, you know, it'll talk talk home to whoever built built this thing right. So this sounds very intriguing to me why do you think there is this lack of or like what do you identify as a lack of attention to privacy issues is it because robots, sort of like the dark side of like them taking over is more is more sort of attention like grabbing or or why is that. I think there is. I mean that has been a very. Yeah, especially in philosophy. And general ethics of technology has been like a very intriguing subject or field of inquiry. And it's interesting also also the whole talk about, you know, autonomous cars and I have been guilty of writing papers on autonomous cars. But I think, after a while, or at least that's for us that's the interesting part is to see like how this, you know, the technology play out in practice right now, and you know people are designing those things right now.  For the last, yeah, five to 10 years, I would say. And I think that's a big issue still. But with, but the connection and there's also almost always the connection made also the privacy but nothing comes of it. That's, that's what I what I mean so people say okay behind this seemingly seamless and smooth and direction and all these kind of things you can have, you can hide all these privacy issues and all these datafication that you that is going on and in this sense you have different kinds of dark patterns or then maybe in the internet but you know they work in the same or in a very similar way. I think that's the point of that but then most people don't say so so how do you change that well how can you make this better and and that's maybe also something like it's a little bit the nitty gritty and then you need the designers and the engineers and you know and then in the end it's not fancy and or not that fancy and then maybe people are not interested. I'm not saying there's that there isn't any, any talk of this. I'm just surprised at how little still there is given the fact that, you know, I mean so the smartphone is probably the device with the, with the most sensors and data tracking so I don't know how far, but, you know, look at some smart home applications or some social robots I mean so the typical robot has, as I said, six to seven sensors that just in order for it to, you know, orientate within 3D and not bump into things have to be constantly recording basically. As a result of that I imagine somebody out there has a pretty precise map of your apartment right. Yeah, as I have like a vacuum cleaner robot. Yes, probably, but funny interesting thing there. When I bought it. Not too long ago. It's like, it's a Chinese model, and it comes with a Chinese app and the app is like, you know, like my Android tells me so the app wants access to your camera and your contacts and your, I don't know, all your memory cards and all these things and I'm like, you're a vacuum cleaner, what do you need all these things and I'm like always denied denied it. And of course the app works, but you know, still you can you can try right it's just a very social vacuum cleaner. Yeah, yeah. So, it'll talk to all my friends. Yeah, I think historically the network of centers has been pretty good at shining light on issues that may have been sort of underappreciated or that needs sort of more inquiry and and also sort of putting it in sort of like at center stage a little bit of of of research, also collaborating on those things. Do you think this is something where there's there's room for for the network of centers to maybe assist you help you or for you to to collaborate with others. Definitely. So I mean, that is something that I personally like to explore more and see more especially also people from interdisciplinary research. We have traditionally a strong focus on on ethics and and social sciences. We have a lot of social implications of technology, but the legal side we basically and a lot of the centers do have a strong legal leaning, which, which would be a perfect match because I think that is something that we are basically missing we have legal experts in our center, but there are also like two things maybe that I could quickly mention before that the 20 minutes are already over that we think that right now in the near future we can, we have a high interest in collaborating and one thing is, we are for a couple of years now, more and more into AI ethics, moved into AI ethics. We have close connection in collaboration with the tubing and excellence cluster machine learning. We have, and we have this past year in March, I think we came out with a sort of like a policy white paper that's called with a group of researchers in Germany that's called from principles to practice. And where we thought about how to, how to implement all these AI ethical principles. And they're like, so maybe you, you know the high level expert group and Floridi and these, you know, big principles of transparency and explainability and what they are, and I think they're now over 200 papers or policy guidelines that mentioned one or some other of these principles. And with some people that are experts in regulation and standardization and also some philosophers and computer science people and we try to figure out on a, let's say, middle level how to implement those and then we broke it down a little bit and from the time we came to criteria and some observables and indicators so what does actually have to happen in order for a system to be transparent and is there something that I can measure this with. And so, we realized that with every, every opera opera serialization. Sorry about that. That comes. Come should have chosen a different one. Come certain dangers, of course, because you're, you're missing out on on on context. But I think in order to, you know, maybe get everybody on the same page on what are we actually talking about when we're talking about transparency or non discrimination, and also to give regulators but also the public something that they can, you know, say okay but you didn't do this, and you know, this is something that you should be doing. Yeah, and we would be interested we know of in Germany of two or three other projects that work in this kind of direction but we'd be very interested to to exchange ideas and collaborate and see how there's there's tons of open questions. And we're right now working with some ministries and trying to German federal ministries and trying to continue to work so that this first policy paper is only basically a proof of concept. And yeah, we'd be very happy to collaborate on these kind of things. Putting a pin in there for other centers. So that would be something. Yes, that would be something there's also another thing I don't know if we still have time. Of course, of course. So we, we very recently started reaching out to some people at the university Sao Paulo. And we're trying to figure out how to, because we have some, we had some projects in the past on digitalization in the global south. And we know that effects. For example, we had a project on the ethical implications of it export to sub Saharan African countries. But we think it's from our perspective it's very hard to get funding for these kind of things in Germany. So, by chance we we we made a connection with the University of Sao Paulo and we're thinking about a project this is very and very early stages. So we have a project on the digitalization of education in the global south. For example, one question could be how can guidelines and regulation efforts effect the global south beyond the EU or something but those regulations are originate basically and how can we translate them. Is there a way to measure this. Does that even make sense is this not just a, you know, new colonialization kind of thing do they need their own regulations. So think about how, how regulations in the EU or in the US would affect education in the south. Digitalization and and privacy rights and all these kind of things in the in the global south. And we think that education could be like a good first idea to start with the look at. That's not, that's not, you know, that's not a given but we think this might be something that's interesting to look at and to see. And we be, especially since the center is so cool is so global, we'd be, we'd be more than happy to to see what people come up with and collaborate, because this is, you know, something that's always in the back of our minds and every once in a while there's a there's a project but you know we we're actually very interested in in building up this building up this connection and and and make some make some collaborations work in this field. It's not like you've come to the right place. The center is definitely the right place to to find collaborators are all around the world. And it has grown a lot in recent years, especially in places outside the US NTU. So, lots of opportunities there. Well, well, thank you so much for chatting with me today. It was a pleasure meeting you and hearing about your center and I'm excited to see what's going to come from this as well. Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the time. And, yeah, we're we're happy to be on board and see see where that takes us. Welcome again.


Mr. President, I have over here from Secretary Rosca a draft presidential statement. I also have a little more information but not much. The presidential statement that he suggests is as follows. We are deeply distressed to learn that large-scale fighting has broken out in the Middle East and eventuality we had sought to prevent. Each side has accused the other of launching aggression. At this time, the facts are not clear. But we do know that tragic consequences will flow from this needless and destructive struggle if the fighting does not cease immediately. The Security Council has been called into urgent session. The United States will devote all its energies to bring about an end to the fighting and a new beginning of programs to assure the peace and development of the entire area. We call upon all parties to support the Security Council and bring about an immediate ceasefire. I've read it to Bob McNamara and he thinks it's all right too. Would you like me to look at it, sir? No, I think it's all right. As you know, we're trying to find out who started it. The evidence is not definitive but we have an interesting insight from our fellow in Cairo who says that they claim the war started at 9 o'clock in Cairo time with an Israeli strike. But here's what he says in his fourth paragraph. There are, however, indications of unusual activity in the UAR forces before the raids at 9 o'clock including truckload of military police dropping men at intersections along Mount Cornish at 8 o'clock as though in preparation for major troop movement. Also, a United Arab Republic commercial pilot was summoned to airport at 4.30 in the morning today and found a large number of pilots in uniform immediately called fiance and told to leave the country as soon as possible. That is, as of the moment, it's not much but it's something. The only evidence that this is an UAR put up job. Bob McNamara says that he feels his inclination is to feel the same way because of this and they're having made a big public announcement about the Mouyadine mission and made that public which would be a good cover if they were going to jump off. However, there's nothing to hang your hat on but I did want you to be up to date. We have an interview with Eban who said they were attacked and they gave them orders to counterattack. The military situation is that they're fighting so far only with Egypt. The governor of Israel believes it's attack on Egyptian airfields is a success. Eban thinks the Egyptian ground force movement from Gaza probably stopped. Eban interprets erroneous Jordanian claim of the Israeli attack on airfield as a possible ruse by Hussein to justify keeping his forces back to protect his airfields. The Syrians have not moved, says Eban, although they're announcing that they're attacking Israeli cities. They're drafting a message to you. He says the letter will rehearse development of NASA's buildup reasons for Israeli action based on Article 51 and conviction that world understands Israel is victim of master's aggression, but it will add that Israel has no intention of taking advantage of the situation to enlarge its territory, hopes peace can be restored within present boundaries, also hopes conflict can be localized, and in this regard asks our help in restraining any Soviet initiative. Secretary Russ spoke to you, didn't he, about his proposed Grameco letter? Yes. Right, sir. Well, that brings you up to date, sir. All right. And will you go with that statement? Yes. When will you issue it? That's your judgment, sir. I... George has some newspaper men in his net, but it... George has what? George has some newspaper men in. That's no pressure. It's a question of your judgment as to when an initial statement might be in. I think it might be reassuring to have this kind of even-handed factual statement early to give a lead. It's been reported that you have been informed that they're following events. Are you George in his office? Yes, sir. Well, I'll send it up to them, and I'll talk to them about when to put it out. What would you think today about having leadership informed about the Congress? They have make them aware and Russ go up there instead of coming down here. I think it blows it up and makes it a little critical down here, but we might ask some of our good friends that might be helpful to come in from the outside and give us some help here, Clark and people like that. Well, I would think... I'm not sure, but I would think that just for public's appearances, maybe ask Atchison to come by, or ask Russ and McNamara what they think of it just on your own without coming from me. But these would be the ones I would like to talk to about these things and see what preparations they think we ought to make and so forth. Atchison, Ball, Pundit Down. Yes, Pundit, be good. The old man McCloy and that other fellow that I always handled at Pakistan and India thought his judgment was good. Sometime we ought to have him in here. He handled the task ban and a lot of that stuff. Dean? Yeah, Arthur Dean. But I wouldn't have... I wouldn't mention McCloy and Dean today, but I do think that Pundit would be safe to just get on the shuttle and come down here and I think that beyond that, you ought to ask him... I do that anyway. I just call him and tell him I'd like to visit with him about this letter. I think that's very good. I won't talk to him about this other matter too, and I wish he'd come by and be prepared to stay as long as he can. I will do that, sir. But then I'd check them on the leadership. They think it wouldn't be a proper thing to ask Mansfield to arrange to... Where's the vice president? I don't know where to find out. Let's see if they can have meetings like they had the other day. The same way. Now on that one, you think you'd want to get Dick Helms on the intelligence side? Yes, yes. I should think you'd want to get him and Ruskin McNamara up there. I'll try it out, the list except Mac, and I'll just get Mac down here and I'll try out this leadership idea and I'll try out the names on my own. Good. Right, sir? What time is it? It's now 6.23. Right, sir? I'll put it... Yes, I won't get...


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There are three men One is busily engaged at the door of a massive safe another holds a flashlight The third lightly grasps a gun Are you coming Gus almost ready to blow her head hold that flashlight steady will you record sure sure sure guys Got the shakes pretty bad haven't you right? I know I'm all right here. You're so scared. I can hear your teeth Oh, it's a guy's first job guys, weren't you scared when you cracked your first safe? I Was scared the first time I killed a guy. I've never been scared How many men have you killed it? Oh, you've got a lot to learn about the rack. It's right here You must never ask personal questions and you must cultivate a bad memory I will I got the charge in an all-wired.  Well, sometimes people work in this building at night doing overtime if the explosion is heard I'm not nobody paying attention to this blast that subway work going on outside makes a perfect setup I hope we find all the dough and that safe you say you'll be in it right here There'll be at least $40,000 and maybe 50 I work in this office. I know what Titus keeps on hand It better be right. I don't like to waste my time.    I stay close to this hall door to watch and listen I'm watching you guys to see none of that dough sticks to your fingers I want a full third of it. You'll get it. It sure I will big bills and packages And there's all of 50,000 here. I will count it up when we get to the hotel and make our split Yeah, shake it up now. We've got it all.  I'll take the money showcase. Oh, why can't I just tells you right here? Sure? Let's get away Quiet now. I'll open the door. Come on. There's no one in the hall But go down the back stairs. Yeah, and it's only a block to the coroner get away quiet Somebody open the door down the hole there That girl Don't scream babe. Don't point that gun at Mr. Reich she recognizes me head. She's a sonographer who works in that office She'll tell and if she told the cops on you you tell about us. You got a bump to scale it I don't know what this is all about. Please quiet. Let her have it. This girl's coming with us coming with us Where I know it's brought out in the suburbs Take it easy, baby Come on. We're hanging on the back stairs You take it where you want to Gus and I'll go to the place. We agreed on it. Take that dough with you. Yeah No, no, right The dough and me are gonna stick together Now this is a good spot Gus stop the car okay Sorry sister you work late in your office on the wrong night Let's get out. I'll never tell anybody that I saw you man.  You're strong for this bumper. I've done my end of the job tonight. This is your party. Yeah, that's so Want to see me do it? No take her back there among those trees. Hey, come on sister No, no, no, no Just a few steps babe away from the road with a tree just think Away from those two yellow bears.  I swear never tell I swear Don't convince me I go by how I feel about things Besides, I've never killed a woman You're gonna let me go. Uh-huh Now can't it listen You follow this path for about a quarter mile. You'll come out on Weldon Spring Road where you can flag your bus back to town All right get going miss you Fire a shot or two after you start for the benefit of those mugs back there So long Thanks Never forget what I expect you to do is forget me Get on your way. I That's well double crossing what the person I didn't trust you with that money We followed you and heard everything you said to that girl. You did right good. We did you have a cat in your met I guess yeah guns aren't your racket pal.  I'm giving you this.  Yeah, you killed him. I think so right here. Let's see Uh-huh He's dead You never saw a guy get it before I guess Don't look at me like that. It don't have your right You don't belong in the big leagues and you wouldn't know what to do with big dough So I'm taking all of what we got tonight. No Not even a killer like you was gonna take it from me Shouldn't have reached for the cat poor Gus drop right here Guns aren't your racket either Sorry, we'll continue in just a moment For more than 125 years, we've all enjoyed good wholesome beer and ale in glass bottles Because glass and only glass can bring you beer and ale as it comes from the brewery Unaffected by any foreign taste or flavor. Yes glass bottles and only glass bottles can bring you beer as it's meant to taste Beer that's brewery bright and here at last is a new kind of bottle a glass bottle. That's different It requires no deposit no return to the store when the bottle is empty Just throw it away. It's light as a feather sturdy and compact It saves space in the ice box. 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He lived as long as he did Well Logan you got a big break complete story before he passed out Yeah, it was a swell break But Riker didn't identify the killer for your captain He said he knew him only as Ed and the description he gave you fits thousands of men Oh, at least Riker gave me something to work on miss Williams and there's this Tenographer Francis birch that the government turned loose Logan do you go for that part of Riker's story a Professional trigger man so chivalrous. He takes a chance on his own hide by letting a witness go free Mmm-hmm That's hard for me to swallow screw is this thing sounds I think she got away safely and she'll be able to give me a good description of this killer Women remember men if the killer did let her go and if she has any sense of gratitude You're not going to get a thing out of her when she learns that her chivalrous gunman killed two guys tonight Well, it's a reputable citizen. I'll bet she won't say a thing.  I ran through the woods caught a bus and came home here. He didn't follow you No captain Logan. This is certainly a hot one any. I'll say now. I've told you all I know I've had a terrible experience tonight. Please leave me alone. I'm sorry miss birch But you haven't yet given me a description of this man called Ed. I Can't describe him captain. It was dark all the time. I was with him and I was so frightened You must have some idea I haven't I don't remember a single detail of the man's appearance because you're too grateful to remember I just don't remember miss birch. This man's a professional killer. He murdered two men tonight It was a cold-blooded murder and it was a double-cross. It's your duty to assist the police and putting him where he belongs Do he can't make me tell you something. I don't know. I wouldn't recognize him if he walked into this room I don't know him Okay That's the way you want it. I'll have to hold you as a material and unwilling witness Sergeant take this young lady to headquarters I mean I I'll be a prisoner. You will be held for further questioning Does the prospect improve your memory? No, I'm ready to go sergeant. Yes, you win your bet Casey Hmm. Sorry pal. I hoped I'd lose Ever so to everyone who's come into this bar I've been predicting that this year baseball season is going to end with a big surprise Casey miss Williams excuse me mr. Ever so where you been all day? Oh hang around police headquarters Going back there in a few minutes Yeah, we want to get time for a small bottle of beer a piece. So give us some action at the bird come on All right up. You're sticking close to headquarters waiting for a break in that chivalrous gunman case. Yeah Things well newspaper copy the women especially are eating it up. I'll say they are miss Williams Every other family who comes in here is talking about the killer a wooden her to lady I think most of them are jealous of that birch gal They'd like to have met such a romantical character themselves. Oh Romantical character nuts ever those cookies don't do anything romantic or chivalrous unless they got a very cold Hard-boiled reason for it but she still ain't described or identified the killer has she No, which seems to prove mr. Casey that he didn't take very big chances He was simply an excellent judge of character. Hmm. Maybe The thing still has a phony smell to me I don't see why Casey he sized up the gallon figured she wouldn't rat on anyone who'd done her a big favor That's all there is to it. That's the way it looks all right I suppose the cops have investigated the birch gal pretty thorough very thoroughly and she's just what she seems to be a plane looking Capable stenographer and her reputation is a one but Annie nobody knows her really well She has no close gal friends never went out much with guys the cops didn't find anybody She'd ever been confidential with well, so what girls in a wolf town like this are smart to keep To keep to themselves. Yeah She worked overtime on the night of the robbery at her own request and her boss says that she's done that many times before You got suspicions of miss birch Casey well, I had pal but Seems to be no grounds for him Casey had an elaborate theory that the appearance of miss birch after the tightest safe was robbed was time Time to make two of the robbers Riker and Gus agree to a change in plan See they'd intended to split the dough in a downtown hotel Francis birch provided an excuse for this gunman Ed to get them and the stolen money out to a lonely spot in the woods where he could bump Them off and take the entire haul you figured miss birch and that Ed were working together, huh? That was a theory you mean a hunch. Yeah only Logan can't find any connection between the birch gal and any crooks I don't think it was a very hot theory anyways I Guess Cam Logan's been rounding up a lot of suspects every guy known to have associated with a safe cracker Gus has been brought in for questioning The cops are still looking for more. Oh Well, Annie come on. Let's get back to headquarters if anything breaks in this case We want to be around and we'd better be your city desk will have our scalp You know what I predict about this case pal what? It'll either be solved Yeah Or it'll always remain a mystery Miss Williams got here just in time Casey my boys have brought in another suspect. That's how who is he a Rod for Minneapolis named George Neal been booked for several trigger jobs in the Middle West But always got out from under and he's been seen several times with Gus Lesser during the past couple of weeks And he just might be it is the is the name Ed one of George Neal's aliases captain No, not that we know of Miss Wiggins But that's a minor detail an experienced crook wouldn't let an amateur like Ryker know his real name or one of his usual aliases Bring him in sergeant. Yes, sir and a minute or two. I'll have miss Bertian to give him the one so oh She won't identify anyone for you I watched that girl very closely when she meets a suspect miss Williams and she sees the right one She may tell me more and she intends to oh you think she'll give herself and him away could be Are you and Casey keep your eyes open? Let me handle it. Okay. Here's Neil captain. Oh come in Neil. Oh, thanks. I have a chair You're too good to me Well, what's this pick up all about captain When do you leave Minneapolis Neil? Six months ago Been operating in this town ever since I don't know what you mean by Operating you did quite a little gun work out in the Middle West. Oh, I wouldn't say that I Felt up against a couple of phony wraps that weren't followed by convictions. Yeah. Yeah You'll put some jobs in this town Neil have I Prove it. I'm gonna try Bring in our witness sergeant. Yes, sir. You ever witness. Yeah There she is captain What do you want of me now captain? I take a look at that man miss Birch. Well, have you ever seen him before? No, you're certain Certain That's all take her back to a quarter sergeant. Yes, sir. Well, your witness didn't know me captain. I noticed that Neil My delivery to go now. You're being held for questioning take charge of a modern Come on, Neil. Okay Your cup certainly was an awful lot of time Having a thing on me Miss Williams Casey, you notice a change in that girl when she saw Neil. Yes captain her voice was calm enough But did you see how she clenched her hand? You get it too, Casey. I wasn't watching the gal Oh, you weren't watching can see I had my eyes on Neil He wasn't at all afraid of miss Birch. You mean you think he's not our guy. I'm sure he is our guy I don't get it. No, neither do I not Neil was pretty tense at first Because you just might have had the goods on him for any one of a dozen jobs Well, that tension disappeared when he saw Francis Birch all he showed then was relief But Casey if he's Ed he'd have had the opposite reaction of course Ed met this gal only once He couldn't be sure she wouldn't send him to the hot seat, right? He couldn't be sure if he'd met her only once now you going back to your cock-eyed theory of collusion between that Respectable woman in a professional rod man. Neil's a good-looking guy He could have made a play for her after he learned about the big doe and Titus is safe And she could have gone so overboard on him Logan that she'd play along with a scheme even though scheme that Involved robbery and murder. Well, that's just a hunch. Well, there's no way to prove a hunch of that kind Casey She'll just keep on refusing to identify Ed. I think there's a way to prove it. Oh Women are jealous of it and when they go all out for a guy they demand a lot in return Yeah, how do you know so much about women Casey? I've read about a manny in books Say we'll try the old green eyed monster gag Casey now what on earth you'll find out because you're gonna help work at miss Williams Now here's what we'll do Beginning tomorrow George Neil will receive special privileges in jail He'll be allowed to have visitors privately and after we're sure he's enjoying his privileges Miss birches quarters and the women's wing will be changed so that she'll have a fine view of the private visiting room And then miss Williams you come in Nice of you to visit me. Oh, it seems the least I can do miss birch. You must be terribly unhappy here That's an understatement Not in a barred cell, but I'm in a jail. I'm a prisoner How much longer are they going to hold me as a witness against the man they haven't arrested and whom I can't identify if they do Oh, I I don't know miss birch, but they're making things more comfortable for you They've given you nicer quarters than you had before Yes They moved me in here today, huh? Well, this would be quite a pleasant room if it weren't inside a jail Yes, but it is Well, that's Interesting view from this window Interesting barred windows stone walls. No, no, I haven't you noticed the visiting rooms There are a few floors below across the court. You can see the real prisoners with their relatives and friends That'll be fun that um That that fellow Neil is in one of the rooms now Neil. Hmm. He's a good-looking guy. Oh one of the men that you couldn't identify remember Oh No, I Have been asked to identify so many men. Look. He's got a nice-looking girl visiting him Yes, I see She looks a little too blonde to be the real thing Definitely peroxide. I don't know what there is about blondes real or phony, but they sure appeal to men Who do you suppose that woman is I don't know She's probably a newspaper reporter like you Interviewing him. No, I know all the news gals in town, and she's not one of us. Oh The guards come in to break up their visit. Oh Neil must be a close friend. She's kissing him. Goodbye Yes, so I see Look at that.  Mm-hmm. I wonder if you'd find out for me What miss birch? Nothing Never mind Hello miss William. Hi there. I meant to come back sooner, but I've been so busy. Good to see you It's good to see anyone who isn't a matron or a policeman. Oh You don't look very well. Have you been sick? I? Haven't been sleeping. Well, I don't wonder you're not really a prisoner, but just I'm in a prison Well, I I wish I could do something for you. You can miss Williams. Yes Nothing, you know, I I've had some amusement watching people in that visitors room. You pointed out to me that man Neil I think you said his name was oh, yes. Yeah Do you know that same blonde woman visited him every day?  I was curious enough to ask about her. She's his wife His wife. Yeah, as she flew on here from Minneapolis This birch what's the matter? He's married his rotten game. Get captain Logan. 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Hi everyone, Sean with jaspyscasebreaks.com here doing 2021 football 10 box inner case break pick your team number three High risk high reward awesome looking stuff First 10 boxes. I did were great. Let's see what these ones are Here is our list of customers and their respective teams You'll see there are four teams on here that are encompassed in a random number block the Raiders Patriots eagles and Seahawks that random number block randomizer was done right here And is loaded with separate video So This is from a fresh case. So two inner cases in here 10 boxes each Here is our list In-person the random number block as well Here's our case. So this is the master case. We're gonna use we're gonna pop this open We got to figure out which inner case we're gonna use for random number block. Sorry for a pick your team three and Which one's gonna be for pick your team four? So here are the two inner cases for us. We're gonna have left case right case Roll a dice This is a good one one two three for the case on left four five six for the case on the right Four so we're going with the case on the right So this will be for pick your team number four as I will so nicely note Right here. So here is our case the one that matters Pick your team four is in the store now and I think in single digits. So if we really wanted to and we really think that this is either a real super hopper case or There's something waiting in the second half we can do it tonight It is in the store Good luck everyone Well, that was quick Jalen hurts seven out of 35 That's four Actually hold on Yes Sorry That's for Joseph. I'm a dummy. I transposed names Yeah for Joseph Kim So I'm a dummy go back here for a second You can see we turn on the Nick cam. So there's the Nick cam so you can see the boxes and cases On this spreadsheet, it's the Green Bay Packers Patriots Raiders and Seahawks, right? Well, I have the Eagles listed as a random number block That's because I accidentally put Joseph Kim as the Packers instead of so he's actually the Eagles and The random number block is the Packers. So That Eagles hit very nice. It's for Joseph Kim Congrats, Joseph And as you can see that was the last spot Mojo spot that he actually bought right before it went into the random So there you go Nice Congrats, Joseph last spot Mojo for Joseph Make sure to reprint the Actually, I'll do that right now Big quarterback for the first hit nice one for the Washington football team Antonio Gandy golden three-color patch in auto 27 out of 99 for Victor Zamora. So here's the uplated the correct one The Packers are the random number block as it stated and Joseph the last Bob Mojo got the Eagles Last Bob Mojo works every time and AJ Green 9 out of 15 three colors on the bottom two colors on top For the Cincinnati Bengals Shawn Maddock Congrats, sir Darius Layton two-color patch and auto for the New York Giants Scott Rosner that is numbered four out of five Had anything lower than an out of five today Kind of rack my brains and remember. I don't know here about for Since Joe's not here For Joe big express all aboard the big hit express Out of five another not sure if you've been worked In my head I'm gonna say did Jacob Eason You can see the patch there the stitching 50 out of 99 and auto for the Colts Kurt disser first five Juju Smith Schuster one out of 25 Quad relic two colors on the bottom two colors on the left solid colors on the top For the Steelers for now Joseph Kim Congrats, Joseph. Where will he go? I guess he's like dead set on not going back to the Steelers like I don't understand If the Steelers offered him the same contract, why wouldn't you want to stay maybe he sees the changing of the guard between Ben and whoever else is gonna be coming in for the future Doesn't want to do it anymore Whoo, look at this Once upon a time Curtis Martin Look at that coloring That's for the Jets Wayne stock What is that numbered out of? Five out of ten love the look of these cards. That's so cool Such a great looking card Congrats Wayne Steve Young and it's an autograph jersey as well. You can see the Hall of Fame inscription there That's perfect right in the window HOF Hall of Fame two colors two colors two colors solid with his writing on there Six out of ten for the 49ers Brett Gibbs. That's sweet There you go, I love that you can see the Hall of Fame written in the corner right there another one for Washington Chase Young 33 out of 35 Solid coloring on the jersey, but very nice shadow box look there Victor Zamora and Washington Congrats Victor Defensive rookie of the year and our final box Jonathan Taylor Two color patches 97 out of 99 for the Colts Kurt disser Congratulations, sir. And there you go guys. That was the break Very nice ten boxes there Awesome offensive highlights defensive highlights Hall of Famers and everything in between There you go. That was 2020 Panini one football ten box inner case break pick your team number three from Jasper's case breaks calm I'm Sean Jasper's case breaks calm. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you next time


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