I'm Kaewoo. I go by this because everywhere I've been there's always lots and lots of Catherine's, Kate's, Caitlin's. There are a million different ways to spell it. So everyone just calls me Kaewoo. And I've been at New Relic for a little over a year now. Before I was at New Relic, I had a whole bunch of different jobs after I decided that the whole doctor thing wasn't going to pan out much to my mother's everlasting disappointment. The last one was as a product specialist actually at Google where I did some product manager-y kinds of things like future prioritization with an engineering team. I ended up taking up sabbatical to go to a programming boot camp because I just got really tired of always having to persuade other people to build things for me versus just being able to do it myself. So switching over to this new career has been such a fun time. I have been loving every minute of it. It's just been really, really awesome. But it's also just like a lot for me to try to catch up on. I'm always sort of feeling like I'm pretty behind. One really cool thing, though, is I've realized that there's a lot to being a developer that can actually have nothing to do with the coding bit, hence this Pac-Man, not Pac-Man pie chart here. Another thing, too, is as developers, let's be honest. Fundamentally, we're kind of lazy, right? I mean, we like to automate tasks and find shortcuts and all of those sorts of things. And so for me, I've been applying that laziness to reporting over skills that I developed at my previous jobs over into my new one even while I'm still learning a lot about coding. And I've got two weird tricks to being a better developer with no code required. The first is building better relationships, and the second is getting better at communicating. Of course, I'm mostly speaking from my experience as a more junior developer with a non-traditional background. But hopefully, even everyone here that has more experience than me will think of ways to apply similar concepts as well. So I have a three-step foolproof plan for that thing that everybody is always talking about, building relationships. I really prefer to think about it more as just getting to know people and making friends because, of course, friendship is magic. Actually, when I was putting this talk together, I wasn't sure if I could use official imagery, so this is actually just from one of our IT people at New Relic, Vanessa, who has all of these at her desk. So it's pretty awesome.  Like, this morning at breakfast, I could definitely tell there are people there that are coming to the conference here, and I was just going through, like, don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact because I was going to be pretty nervous if I didn't talk and wanted to focus on practicing that. But, you know, the thing, too, is a lot of developers in general probably would describe themselves as introverts, too, right? And so when you have two introverts together, that can make it kind of hard to get conversations started sometimes. But fortunately, at my old job, I developed some hacks for this. And so I find that using these hacks is really useful for getting people to even just want to help you in the first place. So I swear, getting better at making friends is actually a skill. I used to always think that there were some people that are just, like, naturally really charismatic. And that's probably true, but it's not actually something that is, you know, impossible for you to try to get better at. You know, you definitely can work on this and get better at it if you're interested. One thing I do is I try to pay attention and remember small details that people have told me, especially about their lives outside of work. Sometimes this is easier for me to remember than people's names even, but I find that they're usually pretty forgiving if I'm like, I'm sorry, I totally can't remember your name at all. But I do remember that conversation that we had where you talked about how much you love Nutella or whatever it may be. Fun fact, Nutella single-handedly drives up the price of hazelnuts across the world. Oregon, where I live now, has been trying to develop hazelnut trees to compete a little bit better. Anyway. So, you know, for example, that kind of thing, it makes for better conversations than your typical small talk. And I find that when you establish a base with non-technical conversations, that becomes really helpful for technical conversations you do have down the line, particularly ones where you might have to disagree with someone on a decision that they've made. Another really dorky thing that I kind of do is that I actually sometimes mentally prepare stories to get a conversation going of interesting or maybe weird things that I've done lately because otherwise when someone asks me something like, how is your weekend? Oftentimes I just freeze up and I'm like, oh, good. And like that's it. And then the conversation goes nowhere, right? So then instead, if I'm thinking, okay, my weekend story this week is going to be about how I took a pasta making class on Sunday. That can then prompt questions from people and get them interested to try to sort of break through that initial level of awkwardness. Also, I think that if your company has a support team, you should definitely make some good friends there. I think support tends to be chronically undervalued at a lot of tech companies, but they probably know way more about the product than you do, at least when you start. And for me, I used to work in tech support, and so I always liked best the engineers that weren't really stuck up about being engineers and showed that they were willing to learn from me as well. I think another key component to getting people to want to help you is to demonstrate that you value their time and so that you took a reasonable amount of time to get as far as you could on your own. Each time someone helps you, you'll pick up more ideas and strategies to try and be able to push yourself that much farther before the next time you end up having to ask for help. When you do ask for help, you can ask questions like, if you're busy, who else could I talk to about this? And when someone does help you, you can always end with asking something like, is there somewhere I could have found this answer on my own? And if the answer was no, and there isn't any good reason it doesn't exist, you should go ahead and add it. So when you do have someone's time, try and think of ways to sort of push out and extend what you're learning. So it's not just this one specific situation that you've now got an answer to. That way, you'll be equipped when a variation of the same question comes up again, and you won't need to interrupt the person that you were asking for help a second time. Lastly, for getting people to want to help you in the first place, I find that something as simple as just showing your appreciation really goes a long way. Great mentors, of course, probably would do it anyway. But I just think it definitely never helps, never hurts, sorry, never hurts to make people feel extra good about doing something that helps you. So when you make sure to notice when people have gone out of their way to do something for you, that encourages more of that to happen, which is what you want. If you're working somewhere that's big enough that not everyone knows exactly what everyone else is working on, you can also do things like let people's managers know when they've been really helpful, because managers really like hearing good things about their reports and people like their managers to know good things they've done for the team, especially if they don't have to do any self promotion or anything like that. So it's just a nice thing to do all around. So we've covered step one now of getting people to want to help you. Step two is that I think there's a lot you can do to make your team look good to other teams. It isn't all that hard. It helps your team feel good. And it helps other teams feel good too about working with your team. One of the common areas this can come up in is in any demo or review meetings that you might attend, because I think you can give really awesome demos just by being thoughtful and prepared. Think about things like why does this change matter to your audience? Why should they care? Think about how to show the before and after, maybe with grabbing some screenshots or collecting metrics to show why the thing that your team did is such a big deal. Demos are a really good time to make sure that your team gets full credit for everything that it's been working on, even if it's not easily visible. You can do things like talk about corner cases that you've dealt with or items that you consciously chose to handle at a later time, which shows the other teams there that the engineering has been thoughtful about its impact to other teams like support. I like to prep a good amount for a demo, which usually involves some kind of script, not always like an extremely detailed one, sometimes just an ordered list of what I want to show. It's mostly just so that it flows well and I don't forget a small detail and then have to backtrack. I also like to do a test run through, and so that this way I'll know everything I might need to get preloaded onto my computer just to make the demo really efficient and less prone to errors. I think another area where it's actually not that hard to improve in is in writing status updates. I know. They're pretty tedious. I don't believe anyone actually likes doing it, even project managers, really. But even for short updates, here's something you can do. Read what you wrote and think, if someone else read this, when they got to the end, would they still have this question? So what? This is a tip for my old boss and the idea is to make sure that your status update actually talks about the impact of what was done versus just a description of the work. Here's an example. This is a perfectly fine status update of what happened last week. We changed email reports to be sent at 1 a.m. local time. But you can imagine someone getting to the end of this, you guys don't have the context for this change either, and sort of thinking at the end, so what? So what did you change the email reports to be sent at 1 a.m. local time? So maybe you can change the status update to say something like this instead. We changed email reports to be sent at 1 a.m. in local time, allowing customers to receive data in the correct local time window. And immediately you're given more context, oh, previously people were getting incorrect reports sent to them, and now we fixed that, which is really awesome. So this helps a lot for updates that get sent to, say, upper management or other teams that might not be as involved in the technical implementation details. I like to think of this a little bit like translation work, like you're taking your work and translating it into here's why you should care language kind of thing. In general, I think that making an effort to be thorough and empathetic to the needs of other teams just really goes a long way. I'm really proud of the time that someone on our support team at Nurellic told me I was her favorite engineer to work with because I was really responsive. All of this just helps people feel heard and knock down any stereotypes they might have that engineers don't care about regular people kind of thing. And so that way when your team needs their help, they'll be there for you too. So that's two out of the three items there. So third, I'd like to talk about something called ask versus guess cultures, which is my favorite frame for better understanding people. It's a culture clash that can lead to a lot of tension if you're not aware of it. So let's start with an example. Here's the situation. This is you. And this is your friend, let's say Jamie. And Jamie has a friend that you've never met named Taylor. Taylor is going to visit your city and needs a place to stay, but you'd rather not host a stranger. So your friend asks you, can Taylor stay with you? What's your instinctual reaction in your head? Not out loud, just kind of in your head. Is it, I'll just tell them no, whatever, no big deal. Or is it something more the lines of, this kind of puts me in a difficult position. That was just a quick litmus test. If you think it's not a big deal to just say no, you are most likely from ask culture. If instead, the situation would make you feel really uncomfortable, you're most likely from guess culture. As far as I can tell, this ask versus guess culture description first came up on an ask meta filter post in about 2007. The way it's described there is, in some families, you grow up with the expectation that it's okay to ask for anything because you're okay with getting no for an answer. This is ask culture. And guess culture on the other hand, you really try to avoid asking unless you're pretty sure the answer is going to be yes. And the way that you know if the answer is going to be yes is by sort of putting out delicate feelers out there, which if you've done this well means you won't even have to ask, you'll just get an offer. And even then you have to use your judgment for whether to accept that offer because you have to ask yourself, are you imposing on this person at all? Ultimately guess culture is really about the idea that putting others in the position of having to say no seems rude. So this is a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Based on my own experience, places that have a really strong reputation for being really nice tend to be guess culture. But it can vary regionally. And on a global scale as well, I find that some countries have a culture of being really direct, like all the Germans I've ever worked with, while others are much more indirect, like in Japan or something like that. Maybe I should move forward and like people are taking pictures of slides. Cool. Okay, so let's go through a few more examples. This first one is from a medium piece that I read about something the author called the Seattle know, even though it's not necessarily Seattle specific, that's just where this piece came from. Anyway, it goes like this. Some reason says, hey, I'm going to this party. Do you want to come? And the response is something like, hmm, that sounds interesting. I'll have to check. Or oh, yeah, maybe. And then you don't hear from them again about this. This means no. This is not obvious to everyone. This is not obvious to me a lot of times actually. And so this is a pretty clear example of a guest culture situation. All right, here's another example that a personal example that happened a couple of months ago. So normally on the weekend, my husband Dan and I each cook one big meal in order to have leftovers for the upcoming week. One week, one day I said off-handed as you said out loud, I don't have time to make lunch for next week. And I was just talking out loud about how I would need to figure something else out for lunch. But my husband Dan, he interpreted that as could you make some extra meals for me so I have lunch for that week. So he says, I'm going to cook two meals this weekend. And me, in my head, I'm thinking, that's so weird. He's planning to make an extra meal this weekend. But okay, sure, whatever. And I didn't say, oh, you don't have to do that. So I just like totally did not receive that signal out there. And so at the end of the weekend, the end result was, I'm over here thinking, why do we have so much food in the fridge? And my husband's over there thinking to himself, I'm such a good husband. I'm like really good at telling funny stories about my husband apparently. It's like my thing. So anyway, I want to talk a little bit about the pros and cons of ask versus guess cultures. I have a preference for one and I'm sure my bias comes out, but that doesn't mean that it's objectively better overall, right? So ask culture prioritizes efficiency in knowing exactly where you stand because there's no ambiguity. You also tend to get what you want, at least in the short term. On the other hand, it does come across as a lot more confrontational, which sometimes can make people feel uncomfortable, maybe even alienate them. Guess culture then prioritizes avoiding hurt feelings or embarrassment from direct confrontations. And it's generally considered more polite, but it does depend on this really tight net of shared expectations. You have to be able to recognize the subtle signals that other people are sending and receiving. So that can be bad if you're not great at reading social cues, which I find in that position a lot. And if people don't share your expectations, you can end up feeling like no one is listening to you at all. So let's talk about some strategies for handling ask to guess situations and vice versa. Generally speaking, it's about trying to step a bit more into the other culture so that your message is clear and people are comfortable. And now that you can at least recognize the difference, you're most of the way there. So if you're from ask culture, my first tip for you is to make a guest culture friend who can be like a little bit of a guide or an interpreter. That's what my husband Dan does for me because if I'm confused by some interaction, I'll often bring it home and you'll help me dissect it to see what was being said between the lines. Remember to that it's not just what people say, but what they don't say as well. Because maybe there wasn't an explicit no in someone's response to you. But maybe it wasn't an enthusiastic yes either. So pay attention when there's any hesitation. And lastly, go ahead and apologize and clarify later if you realize too late that what you said might be misinterpreted that you sent out a guest culture signal that wasn't what you intended. I use this strategy a lot. Well, if you're from guest culture, when I was practicing this presentation and asking my husband for advice, he told me that guest culture people don't need to hear this. They already understand all of it. But I couldn't handle the asymmetry from leaving the slide blank. So just a couple quick points.  Remember that they might be unaware of the rules and it might take some education to bring them on board. Consider also that softening a no with an excuse can end up hurting people in the end as well. If they don't understand that that was a no. One phrasing that I find helpful to remember is before you ask people for something, say up front that it's okay to say no. Even for guest culture people, you can use this to remind yourself that other people can say no to you as well, even if you're feeling uncomfortable about something you have to ask. So that wraps up three step plan for better relationships overall. Now let's talk about getting better at communicating. Now that everybody likes you, your life of the party, and they want to help you, there's a lot of things I think you can do to make it easy for people to help. Help them help you. There are a few different ways that you can do this. I think one of the hardest parts to learning is just letting people see inside your head. There are ways that you can make this easier by articulating the premises that you're working off of and the logic that you're using so that together you can narrow down what you don't understand or are missing. You can say things like you had me up until such and such a point or I'm confused because I thought you said premise A and premise B, but here it doesn't seem like this logically follows. This is a good general format for describing problems. Say what you're trying to do and why so that someone can jump in immediately if that's not even the right goal to be going for in the first place. Also describe your current problem and what you've tried already so that they won't give you suggestions that aren't relevant anymore. When I worked in tech support the best clients would put all of this information up front in a ticket which saved a ton of time on the back and forth even just understanding what the question was in the first place and we could get back to them faster with the actual solution. Remember that just having the courage to say I don't know is a strength.  So just remember to try not to get caught up in your ego when it comes to these things. For me I'm always practicing even just saying things like I don't actually even know what that word means that you're using. But the sooner that I tell people I don't know what's going on the sooner I can get to actually learning and working. So now I want you to think back to the last few times you asked someone for help. How many of you after you got help heard something from them that was like did that help right? That's because most of us are really needy and really want validation. My favorite feedback that I get from people actually is that they've gone off into the real world and actually used my advice. So when you tell people specifically what they did that helped you they'll know what they can do more of. For example it really helped me when you walked me through how to use these tools or it really helps me to be the driver when we go to a program because I absorb more than when I'm just shadowing. So that's that first point of better communication. Step two I have this idea that questions are kind of like a superpower. And so as we all know with great power comes great responsibility. Good questions are invaluable for highlighting assumptions I think and helping the team avoid dead ends which helps you all move faster. Questions like are we working on the right thing or is there a reason we're doing it this way? This is something that came up a lot in my old job as well actually because sometimes this uncovered a misunderstanding about a new features requirements where an offhand comment suddenly got interpreted as a must have item. And so getting rid of these sorts of things saves everyone time and disappointment. Of course you want to ask your questions in a way that won't put people on the defensive. If someone hisses at you that even I can tell that is not a good sign. Try and express humility since you're asking questions because you want to learn rather than assuming you already know. You can also think about questions that other non-engineering people might ask like your users and salespeople. Getting these answers earlier on gives your team a jump start on looping in other teams as needed because if the only answers your team has are pretty vague that's an opportunity to dig further for more clarity. So two out of the three on better communication one last main point. Third one then is giving good feedback. I think that giving useful feedback to the right person in the right venue at the right time is hard for a lot of people. But for me when I was in tech support we would frequently do quality reviews of each other's responses to customers as well as give pure feedback every few quarters. So I got a lot of practice at phrasing feedback without losing friends. Before offering feedback I like to spend some time thinking about what will be useful to the person receiving the feedback. What is it that they want? What are they trying to do? And of course you always get bonus points for bringing suggestions of solutions along with you. It is hard sometimes to refrain from nitpicking just for the sake of having something to say but I think it's worth it to increase the value people get from listening to you. You want people to think that you have a high personal ratio of useful to not useful things to say. Something else I've been trying lately as well is to make sure to give positive feedback whenever there's an opportunity. I don't mean like phony fake positive compliments or anything like that but just that when something good happens make sure to bring it up. My hope is that this is helpful in the longer term so that I can build up a general reputation as a positive person and any negative feedback that I do have will then be taken more seriously. On the other hand sometimes giving good feedback can also mean just stating I don't have an opinion on this topic so that you withdraw yourself from the pool of people weighing in. This makes life easier for whoever is in charge of getting the group to a consensus. One last part of feedback as well of course is accepting it graciously so that you keep getting it and keep having feedback for improvement. One thing you can do is rephrase what people said to show that you understood the core part of their feedback and make sure not to get defensive even if you disagree on some portion of it. Because remember you don't have to act on every piece of feedback but it's very helpful to acknowledge it so again people feel heard. So that wraps up my ideas for better communication. Before I finish up my talk I do want to mention a couple caveats and pitfalls to avoid. Sometimes I think we have a bit of an issue in the tech community of undervaluing non-technical skills and a lot of what I've talked about is essentially using non-technical skills to help move yourself forward. The thing is you don't want to be assumed to quote unquote just be the secretary which I do not mean as a dis on secretaries at all it's just not the job that I'm working towards. There's also this phenomenon called the Girl Scout Tax which is about how we have a we tend to have a stereotype and expectation that women are helpful which unfortunately sometimes leads to women not getting credit for providing that help because supposedly oh that's just what women do they're helpful versus someone that's gone out of their way and is a really big team player. It's just one of those unconscious things that we probably all do from time to time so something we should all try to watch out for to make sure that everyone is recognized and appreciated for what they do. Ultimately keep focused on whatever your end goal is whether that's getting better at coding, working on bigger features or learning about the market and industry whatever it may be so that you can consciously choose what things you'll do that will bring you closer to the goal and not do things that move you farther away from it. These are some recommendations that I have for further reading. The first two are books that are pretty quick and easy reads actually and the other four are blog posts. I'll be tweeting out a link later to these slides so that you can go back and look these up if you're interested. Thank you.


theCUBE's live coverage is made possible by funding from Dell Technologies. Creating technologies that drive human progress. Welcome back to the FIRA in Barcelona. This is Dave Vellante with David Nicholson. Lisa Martin is also here. This is day two of our coverage of MWC23 on theCUBE. We're super excited. We're in between hall four and five. Stop by if you're here. Dennis Hoffman is here as the Senior Vice President and General Manager of the telecom systems business at Dell Technologies. And he's joined by Yusef Halidi, who's the Corporate Vice President for Azure for Operators from Microsoft. Gents, welcome. Thanks, Dave. Thank you. So, we saw Satya in the keynote. He wired in. We saw TK came in. No AWS, I don't know. They're maybe not part of the show, but maybe next year they'll figure out. Indeed, indeed. Lots of stuff happened to the telecom, but the Azure Operator Distributed Services, the big news you guys got here, what's that all about? Well, first of all, we changed the name. Oh, you did? Oh, yeah, we have a real name now. It's called Azure Operator Nexus. Oh, I like Nexus better than you. That's much better. You named it. The engineer's named it first time on the AWS long story. Thank you for our marketing team. But seriously, not only did we rename the platform, we expanded the platform. So it now covers the whole spectrum from the far edge to the public cloud as well, including the near edge as well. So essentially, it's a hybrid platform that can also run network functions. So all these operators around you, the network platform which combines cloud technologies with the choice we're doing around optimized for the network. Okay, and so we've talked about the disaggregation of the network and how you're bringing kind of engineered systems to the table. We talked about, we've seen this movie before, but Dennis, there are differences, right? I mean, you didn't really have engineered systems in the 90s. You didn't have those integration points. You really didn't have the public cloud. You didn't have AI. So you have all those new powers that you can tap. So give us the update from your perspective, having now spent a day and a half here, what's the vibe, what's the buzz, and what's your take on everything? Yeah, I think to build on what Yousef said, there's a lot going on with people still trying to figure out exactly how to architect the telecom network of the future. They know what's got to have a lot to do with cloud. It does have some pretty significant differences. One of those being, there's definitely got to be a hybrid component because there are pieces of the telecom network that even when modernized will not end up centralized. They're going to be highly distributed. I would say though that we took away two things yesterday from all the meetings. One, people are done, I think the network operators are done questioning technology readiness. They're now beginning to wrestle with operationalization of it all. All right, so it's like, okay, it's here. I can in fact build a modern network in a very cloud native way, but I got to figure out how to do that all. And another big part of it is the ecosystem and certainly the partnership longstanding between Dell and Microsoft, which were extending into this space, is part of that, making it easier on people to actually acquire, deploy, and importantly support these new technologies. So a lot of the traditional carriers, like you said, they're sort of beyond the technology readiness. Jose Maria Alvarez in the keynote said there are three pillars to the future telecom network. He said low latency, programmable networks, and then cloud and edge, kind of threw that in. You agree with that? No, in principle, yes. I mean, we've been for years talking about the cloud and edge. Satya for years had the same graphic, we still have it. Today we have expanded the graphic a bit to include the network as well. Because you can't have a cloud without connectivity as well, but this is very, very, very much true. And so the question then, Dennis, is okay, you've got disruptors, we had dish on yesterday. Oh, did you get? Yeah, yeah, and they're talking about what they're doing with O-RAN and all the applications, really taking a kind of, what I see is a developer friendly environment. You've got the carriers talking about how they're going to charge developers for APIs. I think they've published eight APIs, which is nowhere near enough. So you've got that sort of inertia, and yet you have the disruptors that are going to potentially be a catalyst to cross the chasm, if you will. So put on your strategy hat. How do you see that playing out? Well, they're trying to tap into three things, the disruptors. I think the thesis is, if I get to a truly cloud native communications network first, I ought to have greater agility so that I can launch more services and create more revenue streams. I ought to be lower cost in terms of both acquisition cost and operating cost, right? And I ought to be able to create scale between my IT organization, everything I know how to do there, and my telecom network. You know, classic, right? Better, faster, cheaper. If I embrace cloud early on. And people like Dish, you know, they have a clean sheet of paper with which to do that. So innovation and rate of innovation is huge for them. So what would you do? We put your Clay Christensen hat on now. What if you were at a traditional telco? Who's like complaining about- You're going to get me in trouble. Come on, come on. No, help them out. Help them out. They're complaining about CapEx, they're highly regulated, right? They want net neutrality, but they want to be able to sort of dial up the cost of those using the network. So what would you do? Would you try to disrupt yourself? Would you create a skunkworks? Would you kind of spin off a disruptor? That's a real dilemma for those guys. Well, for mobile network operators, the beauty of 5G is it's the first cloud native cellular standard. So I don't know if anybody's thrown these terms around, but 5GSA standalone, right? Yeah, yeah. It's not a skunkworks, they're just literally saying, I've got to have a 5G network, and some of them are deciding I'm going to stand it up all by itself. Now, that's duplicative expense in a lot of ways, but it creates isolation from the two networks. Others are saying, no, it's got to be NSA, I've got to be able to combine 4G and 5G, and then you're into the brownfield thing. That's the hybrid. It is, not hybrid as in cloud, but hybrid as in, you know, it's the verge network. So, you know, I would say for a lot of them, they're adopting probably, rightly so, a wait and see attitude. One thing we haven't talked about and you've got to get on the table, their higher order bit is resilience. Yeah, totally. Right? Can't go down. It's national secure infrastructure, first responder. Indeed. Anytime you ask them to embrace any new technology, the first thing that they have to work through in their minds is, is the juice worth the squeeze? Like, can I handle the risk? But you're saying they're not questioning the technology, aren't they questioning O-RAN as terms of the quality of service, or are they beyond that? They're questioning the timing, not the inevitability. Okay, so they agree that O-RAN is going to be open in over time. At some point, RAN will be cloud native, whether it's O-RAN the spec, open RAN, the concept, virtual RAN. But yeah, I mean, I think it's, it seems pretty evident at this point that the mainframe will give way to open systems once again. Ecosystem RAN. Any RAN. You don't have to start with the O-RAN, with the RAN side of the house. So as you probably know, our partner AT&T started with the core. They almost all have. And we've been on the virtualization path since 2014 and 15. And what we are working with them on is the hybrid cloud model to expand all the way, if you will, as I mentioned, to the far edge or the public cloud. So there's a way to be in the brownfield environment, yet jump on the new bandwagon of technology without necessarily taking too much risk. Because you're quite right. I mean, resiliency, security, service assurance. I mean, for example, AT&T runs the first responder network for the US on their network, on our platform. And I'm personally very familiar of how high the bar is. So it's doable, but you need to go in stages, of course. And they've got to do that integration. That's what they do. And you just have to make a great point. Like, out of the top 30 largest telcos by CapEx outside of China, three-quarters of them have virtualized their core. So the cloudification, if you will, software definition, run on industry standard hardware, embrace cloud-native principles, containerized apps, that's happened in the core. It's well accepted. Now it's just a ripple down through the network which will happen as and when things are faster, better, cheaper. So as implemented, what does this look like? Is it essentially what we used to loosely refer to as Azure Stack software running with Dell optimized telecom infrastructure together, sometimes in a BBU, out in a hybrid cloud model, communicating back to Azure locations in some cases? Is that what we're looking at? Approximately. So you start with the near edge, okay? So the near edge lives in the operators' data centers, edges, whatever the case may be, built out of off-the-shelf hardware. Dell is a great partner there, but in principle it could be different mix and match. So once you have that true near edge, then you can think of, okay, how can I make sure this environment is as uniform? Same APIs, same everything, regardless what the physical location is. And this is key. Key for the network function providers and the NAPs because they need to be able to port once, run everywhere. And it's key for the operator to reduce their cost. You want to teach your workforce, your operations folks, if you will, how to manage the system one time, to automation and so forth. So NAPnet is actually an expansion of the Azure capabilities that people are familiar with in the public cloud projected into different locations. And we have technological arc which basically models everything. So if you have trained your IT side, you are halfway there how to manage your new network, even though of course the network is carrier-grade, it has different gear. So yes, what you said is a lot of it is true, but the actual components, whatever they might be running, are carrier-grade. Highly optimized Linux images. And our solution is not a DIY solution, okay? I know you cater to a wide spectrum here, but for us, we don't believe that the TCO, the proper TCO can be achieved by just putting stuff by yourself. We just published a report with analysis mission that shows that our approach will save 36% of the cost compared to a DIY solution. What percent? 36% of the cost. Compared to DIY, which is already cheaper than classical models. And there's a long history of fairly failed DIY, right? That preceded this as in the early days of public cloud, the network operators wrestled with, do I have to become one to survive? Yeah, right. So they all ended up having cloud projects and by and large they've all dematerialized in favor of this. And it's hard for them to really invest at scale. Let me give you an example. So your biggest tier one operator without naming anybody, okay? How many developers do they have that can manage, can build and maintain an OS image? Or can keep track of the container technology? Or build monitoring at scale? In our company, we have literally thousands of developers doing it already for the cloud. And all we're doing for the operator segment is customizing it and focusing it at the kind of great aspects of it. But so I don't have a dozen container experts. I literally have a building of developers who can do that. And these are being literate here. So it's a skill thing. Once you have a product that you can give to multiple people, everybody benefits. Yeah, and the carriers are largely, they're equipment engineers in a large... Oh, I do have a tough job. I have also a lot of respect for what they do. Totally. Yeah. And a lot of the work happens, you know, kind of underground and they are network operators. And don't touch their business. Right, absolutely. And they're good at it. They're really good at it. You know, you think about it. We'd love to, you know, make folk fun at the big carriers, but think about what happened during the pandemic. When they had to shift everything to remote work, landline, traffic went through the roof. You didn't even notice. I mean, that's for example, however, in the future, where there's innovation and it's going to be driven by developers, right? That's where the open ecosystem comes in. And that's the hard transition for a lot of these folks because the developers are going to win that with new workloads, new applications. Right. And a lot of it is because, if you look at the fundamental strategy hat back on, fundamental dynamics of the industry, forced investment, flat revenues. Yeah, right. Every few years a new G comes out and man, I got to retool this massive thing and where I can't do towers, I'm dropping fiber or vice versa. And meanwhile, most diversification efforts into media have failed. They've had to unwind them and resell them. There's a lot of debt in the industry. And so they're looking for that next big adjacent revenue stream and increasingly deciding, if I don't modernize my network, I can't get it. Can do it. Right. And again, what I heard from some of the carriers in the keynote was we're going to charge for API access because we have data in the network. Okay. But I feel like there's a lot more innovation beyond that that's going to come from the disruptors. Yes. You know, that's going to blow that away, right? And then that may not be the right model. We'll see.  They would say here, here's a platform, go develop. No, I tell you, we are actually working with Kamata and GSMA on the whole API layer. We actually announced a service as well as part of it. Yeah, yeah, right. And the key there, frankly, in my opinion, are not the disruptors as an operators, is the ISV community. You want to get developers that can write to a global set of APIs, not per telco APIs, such that they can do the innovation. I mean, this is what we've seen other industries and any vertically can think of. This is the way they get a slice of that pie, right? The recent history of this industry is one where 4G LTE begot the smartphone and app store era. A bevy of consumer services and almost every single profit stream went somewhere other than the operator, right? So they're looking at this saying, okay, 5G is the enterprise G and there's going to be a bevy of applications that are business service related based on 5G capability. And I can't let the OTT over the top thing happen again. They'll say that, we cannot let this happen again. Okay, but how do they make that not happen? Eight APIs, Dave. The answer is eight APIs. No, I mean, it's this approach. They need to make it easy to work with people like Youssef and more importantly, the developer community. And people like Youssef and his company have found a way to harness. And by the way, they need to be part of that developer community themselves. And they're not today. They're not speaking that developer language. It's hard, you know, hey. Hey, what's the fastest way to sell an enterprise a business service? Resale Azure, Teams, something, right? But that's a resale. Yeah, this is a resale site. See, they also need to free the resources from all the plumbing they do. And we are plumbers, okay? We are proud plumbers. We are proud plumbers. I'm a plumber, I can keep telling people this thing. We had the same discussion with banks and enterprises 10 years ago, by the way. Don't do the plumbing. Go add value on the top. Retool your workforce to do applications that work with ISVs and verticals, as opposed to either reselling, which many do, or do the plumbing. You'd be surprised, traditionally, many operators do it. I want to plumb this thing to get the small interrupt per second. Like, who cares? Well, they don't. Because they've made money on connectivity. Yes. And we've seen this in the world without telephone poles. Yup, yup, yup. Cables, what? Well, you have the hammer, everything's a nail, right? Right. And we sell connectivity services. And that's what we know how to do. And that, both build and sell. And if that's no longer driving, a revenue stream sufficient to cover this forced investment march, not to mention Huawei RIP and government initiatives to pull infrastructure out and accelerate investment, they got to find new ways. I mean, the regulations have been tough. Right? They don't go forward and ask for permission. They really can't. Right? They have to be much more careful. It is tough. So, we don't mean to sound like it's easy for these guys. No, it's not. But, it does require a new mindset, new skill sets, and I think some of them are going to figure it out and then the wave. And you guys are going to be riding that wave. We're going to try. Definitely, definitely. As a veteran of working with both Dell and Microsoft, specifically Azure on things, I am struck by how you're very well positioned in this with Microsoft in particular. Because of Azure's history coming out of the on-premises world that Microsoft knows so well, there's a natural affinity to the hybrid nature of telecom. We talk about Edge, we talk about hybrid. This is it, absolutely the center of it. So, it seems like a... Indeed, actually, if you look at the history of Azure, from day one, and I was there from day one, we always spoke of the hybrid model. But to a clear point, we came from the on-premises world. Right. And don't get me wrong, I want people to use the public loud, but I also know due to physics, regulation, geopolitical boundaries, there's something called on-prem. There's something called an Edge here. I want to add something else. Remember our idea of how we are partner-centric? We do applying the same playbook here. So, for every dollar we make, so many is being done by the ecosystem, same applies here. So, we have announced partnerships with Ericsson, Nokia, Mavinir, all the names, and of course with Dell and many others. The ecosystem has to come together and customers must retain their optionality to run whatever they want to run. So, this is the same playbook. And enterprise technology companies are actually really good at decoding the customer, figuring out specific requirements, making some mistakes the first time through, and then eventually getting it right. And as these trends unfold, you're in a good position, I think, and as are others, and it's exciting time for enterprise tech in this industry, you know? It really is. Indeed. Guys, thanks so much for coming on. Thank you. It's great to see you. Have a great rest of the show. Thank you Dave. Thank you Dave. All right, keep it right there. John Furrier is live in our studio. Breaking down all the news, go to siliconangle.com to go to thecube.net. Dave Vellante, Dave Nicholson, and Lisa Martin. We'll be right back from the theater in Barcelona, MWC 23, right after this short break.


The one thing going into tomorrow is we could probably get another slower day. Number one, again, the market needs to rest, needs to digest recent gains.  Welcome to Access to Trader, the number one community for those who are committed to taking control of their trading in order to achieve success, profitability, and longevity. Thank you for joining us. Here's Dan Shapiro to help you find your edge, master your process, and own your future. Hey guys, giving everybody welcome to another edition of the access to trader.com nightly wrap up show. Hope everybody is doing well. Hope everybody had a good trading day. Quiet, right? Quiet session today. I don't think anybody is shocked. I mean, you had a really big move in the NASDAQ 100 for the last two weeks, very, very good remount of the 50-day moving average, and it's kind of just gone linear. And, you know, this was a perfect day after taking out the all-time highs yesterday to kind of digest, to kind of relax, get its breath, catch its breath, get its feet onto them, and kind of digest what happens next. And what happens next is a Fed meeting that is going to come tomorrow, tapering on, tapering off. What's the long term? What's the short term prowess of the economy? Personally, I think it's going to be a complete non-event again. I don't think just a simple one event, a one-day meeting is going to dictate of what's going to possibly happen after the last 15, 18 months of an economy, global economy coming to a standstill and pretty much starting to recover, right? Everything is pretty much open right now. Things are starting to recover. People need to get back on their feet, right? So the idea of anything aggressive one way or another is probably not in the picture, but in this world, anything is possible. So I think also not only did we rest just because we had a big run, we also rested today because I don't think anybody wants to make any really big bets ahead of the Fed announcement tomorrow. You can really see that today in the lack of co-activate, right? There wasn't really any aggressive calls ahead of the Fed today. There wasn't obviously any puts ahead of the Fed tomorrow just because, again, the market is going linear right now. It keeps on hugging the five-day moving average and every time it hits the five-day moving average, it bounces. So the idea that the market, quote, unquote, was down today, it's not really down. It's a great victory for the bulls, especially the technology bulls. And if you see the stocks that had really, really big runs over the last couple of weeks or even just recent runs, you could clearly tell how good they digested. Amazon is up literally. Stock went to 33.96 today. The stock is up 96 points in four sessions. It was down 75 cents today. That's it. Apple broke out yesterday. We had a nice little bounce today on Apple. We'll talk about that in a second. Apple had a really strong move today, held perfectly inside day on half the volume, you know, very, very bullish. Facebook has been a rock star down two cents on the day. You kind of get the picture. AMAT has been super, duper strong with absolutely nothing today. These are good things, right? Zoom had a really, really big run. Again, a blip, right? So I think about the stock had, has had a run from 330 all the way to 370 in three days down six points. So the bulls did their job. There was absolutely no fear today. Not a lot of clear channels. I think that's the negative side of a res day. You're not going to get a lot of really big channels one way or another because number one, if you rest, there's not going to be any upside channels. They're going to be very strong. And obviously, if they're just kind of drifting lower, you're not going to see any fear. So there's not going to be any downside channels because everything, pretty much all the components on the cues are well above, well above not only the 50 day moving average, you're well above the five day as well. The weird move today came on Roku. And again, there was some news today with Viacom would Comcast. This is a pretty big move down.  If you watched last night's video, I was watching for a continuation above yesterday's channels. Obviously never got anywhere near, but really, really notable aggressive sell off here, you know, towards, you know, towards the start of the day and really into the close. So we have to see if there's any more tangible news to come out there. But other than that, pretty slow day, not a lot of pivots. Again, we'll continue to work on the 60 minute bounces. And if you guys notice, I started talking about them more and more on the nightly videos, because that's kind of what we've been doing in the webinar. When there's not clear channels to the upside, we're basically taking the stronger names that big pushes the day before into slow drifts into rising 60 minutes support. And the stocks usually have a good, good, good value move off this rising support. So the one thing going into tomorrow is we could probably get another slower day. Number one, again, the market needs to rest needs to digest recent gains. The last thing you want to see if you're a bull and you believe in the, you know, permable, well, not necessarily permable, but if you believe in the bull market thesis, the last thing you want to see is people and including bulls start talking about too far too fast. We don't want that. We want nice, slow, methodical, slow growth, price appreciation, dip buying, all that good stuff that makes a healthy bull market. And the most important part of any bull market that is healthy is distribution through many, many groups. And if we've seen that in the banks, got a nice little pop to certain names, financials, excuse me, financials, technology, obviously in the last couple of weeks, the small cap trade has been on there. People are still chasing crazy, crazy things all over the place. Again, be careful with that game.  You don't even need to trade aggressively every single day. Today was very, very slow. Yeah, some bounces, no doubt. We're pretty good. Tomorrow has the potential to be another slow day. So the last thing you want to do is take this information ahead of a Fed day and say to myself, after this guy's Shapiro, tomorrow should be a great day. Well, based on what? I mean, if today was slow and channels were contracting today, you know, these aren't mixed messages. It's probably going to happen the same thing going into the Fed meeting tomorrow. And, you know, who knows what they're going to say, who knows how the market is going to react to tomorrow's session, just like the way the market is having kind of a break, a little bit of a reset, kind of a recharge in batteries. Traders do the same thing. We've had some incredible action, especially in the last two weeks with Beta, with the small caps with Beta, with all that stuff. You need a reset as well. Again, you can drive 100 miles an hour every single day. Let the market dictate what's your next move. Let the market dictate to you how aggressive or how passive you want to be in a session. Usually you'll find you'll get a lot of clues based on the previous night's research, which is tonight. And the last thing you want to do is get super creative. So again, are there names that I like? Yeah, I do like some names. You know, like Airbnb has some pretty aggressive call buying coming in pretty much all day. It held up very, very well. We actually caught a couple of bounces off some levels on there. The breakout, well, I don't want to use the word breakout, but it's stalled on the top of the range here, which I really didn't like. But there was a real old buyer here all day. So if we could start confirming today's channels, maybe you know, who knows, maybe this thing could light up tomorrow. Macro picture is still a little murky, but there is a potential for the trade. Not the best, right? Not definitely not the best one that I like. You know, there's some names here. I do like this, right? I'm not going to mention the symbol, right? I'm not going to mention it's probably my favorite stock to trade. But, you know, stock got rejected yesterday perfectly, you know, 625, right? Got rejected twice. And now it's kind of coming up on this channel right over here. And it's kind of tested this channel once, twice, three times now. So I'm watching, you know, I'm going to watch Tesla, right? You know, for me, it doesn't make a difference which way this thing trades. We did see some aggressive put buying starting today. And again, is this, you know, for a market that potentially can rest, all you need is one, right? And I can't possibly think of anything better than my favorite trading vehicle, no pun intended, that if it starts losing the bottom of this channel here, there's, you know, there's some pretty decent room down. So I'm definitely keeping an eye on Tesla tomorrow if it starts losing some macro channels. Other than that, you know, let's talk about today's session, you know, again, I don't love anything tomorrow. I don't love. And this could turn into a love fest. If a downside channel starts to get hit. But, you know, other than that, I'm not in really in love with anything tomorrow. Let's see how we're played by ears. So let's talk about today.  We were watching this thing for the 2530 break, traded into the 50s. That's really a lot of call buying. They were coming in for the 30 calls, one after another, after another, and it failed. It absolutely failed. I wound up losing like, you know, 16, 17 cents in the trade, not the end of the world. But the point is, I didn't like the fact that you had all that option flow come in very, very aggressively and the stock did absolutely nothing. You could tell here, it broke this top of the channel. It's not like it got rejected anywhere. It just literally just kind of lost steam. We bought it on a pullback into rising support. It just wouldn't let go of it. So again, kind of weird. But again, the most important part is when you see water flow dry up and the stock can't reclaim levels, got to get out of the trade. A big move yesterday in the AYX obviously never got close to 86, Zoom never got close to the 69, 370 level. They sold it off all day. Excuse me, Roku, Zoom never got to 370, 371. Tesla obviously didn't get back to the upper range here. And here's a perfect example when we talk about in the video all the time, when we talk about potential 60-minute bounces. And these are strong stocks that broke out the day before. And if they give you a week open into rising 60-minute support, that's the bounce place. So Apple was actually pretty good. This is a pretty good trade. We caught literally near what, 20, 25 cents off the lows, potential 60-minute bounce, 129.60s for experienced traders, obviously needs to build 30, 60 to build for the more upside. And Apple's a really nice move here. So here's my point of a 60-minute, right? Here's the 60-minute rising support and it traded right here. We bought the remount and the stock almost went green on the day. Nice move there, really nice move on Apple off the lows. Really wonderful move. So that's kind of, that's what we talk about, buying strong stocks into rising 60-minute support. And if you look at Amazon, I've been talking about that literally all week. Every single time it touches the bottom of the channel here at Spikes, reclaim the bottom of the channel Spikes, reclaim the bottom of the channel Spikes. So that bottom 60-minute support is a really, really good tool and we've been kind of talking about that for a long time. So nice move on Apple. Also, we caught this Airbnb on a dip as well, caught it for a little bit less than the dollar, but nice move there as well.  I personally missed the square trade, 231.50 needs to build. It was very fast. It was really at the open. If you caught it, congratulations, I just missed it. 231.50 went to 233.21, right? You know, went up almost $2 if you caught the trade. I missed it. This was, you know, square eyes never came close to the 750, 760. This was definitely the move of the day for all you guys who did catch shop. Congratulations, 1312 needs to build. We talked about shop last night on the video here with shop, right? It took out that 1312 this whole channel here and traded almost, you know, trade the 1350 huge, huge move on shop. Congratulations. Again, guys, that's the whole point. You just need one. You don't need to put on 78 positions being 20 different stocks at once. You only need one good one to make your nut and, you know, if you can catch the right one, you do your research. You should be all right. So shop was good. Wish not, not a bad move. Wish $12 needs to build. Here was Wish, right off the open. Here was Wish. You can see here right off the open. Here was Wish off the $12, went to 1250s, and it kind of came back. But not a bad move. Good job for you guys. Accorded beyond, never got close to the 53.54 area. Yeah, again, perfect bounce. Now break even as you stop, right? Free trade here. Airbnb, Airbnb on the natural pivot only went up like 75 cents. Take on the way. Let's go, right? Let's go green. Almost got green. Almost got green. But nice, you know, nice bounce on Apple, nevertheless. And that is it, right? Sit tight, guys, right?  So that's about it, guys. So going into tomorrow, going into tomorrow, you know, I kind of like this AI also. Take a look at this AI. It held now 47 several times, excuse me, 57 several times. This whole range here. Keep an eye on this AI. If it starts losing 57 tomorrow, maybe it gets hit. But, you know, going into tomorrow, I really have no nothing that I love. I am watching Tesla just in case it finally confirms the downside channel. And the one thing about Tesla compared to everything else, when Tesla expands, and you guys see this every, every, you know, every interval when it gets aggressive, both the long and the short side, when Tesla does expand and it confirms channels, you can have a really, really big potential on your hand. So, you know, I'm going to watch this. And if it doesn't confirm, it doesn't confirm, but at least there is definitely potential if indeed it does. So guys, have a great day. Stay patient, stay calm. Remember, it's not a race. You don't need to trade every day. See how the date plays out. See early option flow tomorrow. See what's coming in, that's coming in aggressive from the option market. Buy those dips on those stocks into rising 60-minute support. See if there's any natural pivots to confirm. Other than that, nice and easy day by day, trade by trade. Guys, have a great night. I'll see you all tomorrow.


Kwa jimpenzim tizama jimpa kupali nyumba niya mbe sese kwa riuningako kwa jiliya kwa tizama kipindi kikubo, kipindi kitama, kipindi kitaka kwa kina kupama umbero, teta namba, metrendo, modu niya Mi nafamika kama Kendre Albis, the gossip kumanda the interview kwa mbe kimataifu, mzeo da kika na nacheki Chit chat Hei, siko pikiangu ni kono enzango mwana sababishi na kontamte na sana Kuli ya kongu yuponani? I go by the name Edda and right here on chit chat we give you the juiciest gossip around the world New music releases and movie reviews And I go by the name Patricia Muriuki, my name has not changed And you can talk to us across our social media platforms, that is at Y254 channel You can also reach me at Patricia Muriuki Svalilale unigana They can reach you Ya Okay Muteza maji kumbuka sula sikuli omalutu na ulizani Ya, mtu ana fakwa umberi gani, doa izeku ingeka tikan doa Io ni dada, Io ni metutaki ume una Mtu ana fakwa umberi gani, doa ingeka tikan doa Eboi chi ya kometu kupiti ya kometu section kupiti ya page ya Y254 Mtu ana fakwa umberi gani Triki, but personally I believe that kama ni manamke Same, achako I hear we get that jing fa niya easy Ya, hei, li kumata kwa uske vivaya, but ken eleya I know I am just igniting fire Okay Ya, I am just igniting fire We know he is igniting fire I can be good, mtu zama jipi ya tumbe What's up, what's happening, what's around, what's popping Ya know, I'm here Nowadays I speak in English because at least I always go to classes to understand this language At the end of the day, at least I know something Kama kei, kama kawa, kama kubu, kama li wazaidi, kama li wada Kama ni mangi, tunanzana hape Tunanzana This week has been amazing I mean in terms of celebrating watoto enye tumepata duniani Celebrities have gotten children this week But other than getting children There are people who lost children Patricia So we talked about John Legend and the wife That is Chrissy Tigen I think some weeks ago When Chrissy actually took a positive Pregnancy test and it turned out to a positive Which is a little backstory She has never been able to conceive naturally They've always gone for help I think they've given birth for the two kids through IVF And this was the first time she tested And got a positive She has always tested every single day of her life And it always comes out negative So we were all excited about the baby And then it was a very good thing for them Because they knew it's an experience they've never had before And they knew this pregnancy was going to be very different from the others But sadly They lost their little baby They started calling him Jack And I'll just read a little bit of what Chrissy said This is on our Instagram We are shocked and in the kind of deep pain You only hear about The kind of pain we've never felt before We were never able to stop the bleeding And give our baby the fluids he needed Despite bugs and bugs of blood transfusion It just wasn't enough to our Jack I'm sorry that the first few moments of your life Were met with so many complications That we couldn't give you the home you needed To survive, we will always love you It is very sad that we've seen a lot of celebrities Send them a lot of love And all we can say is There is nothing that is worse Than losing someone that you love So for us we say I believe for Chrissy to conceive naturally Because she is going to hit again for them There are photos that are going around on the internet Of her sitting by the hospital bed Holding her head crying That was the place I would not wish that on anyone Because actually they said goodbye to the child There was even a picture of the mum holding the baby It is so sad but I hope they will come They will heal We know it is not an easy journey But we hope they will go into your life I am not sure if there is a situation And that is permanent But I am sure if there is a mum To take care of my baby Or if there is a woman And she is a child And if she is a child And if there are any children Who don't take care of their baby Yes, it is very true Apolesangu sababu na yu uchungu wam zazi kum poteza amtoto na apia Kama simi simi zazi laki imona wazazu wam apoteza tutuwa wana Uchungu wam bari na onikana katikanya suzao sumshosiku Apolesangu wam zazi kum poteza amtoto na apia Anafami kakama John Legend Na mendo na mendo na Mendo na mendo na mendo na mendo na mendo na mendo na 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bring joy to these families but is she up or if tell us what you have on your side Yes we have the queen herself Niki Minaj she broke the internet when when she posted her baby baby shoots baby shoot photos and she also welcomed her child had to do it whether it's a girl but the news was announced by her mum on Instagram official Carol Maraj Akisema Thank you Lord for blessing my daughter at Niki Minaj with a beautiful bundle of joy you have always been a blessing to myself and your family and now you have received one of the best blessings from God children are gifts from the Lord they are a reward from him 127 Vasri Glamah let us rejoice she has not confirmed herself but we are waiting for how we are waiting for the official pictures of the baby we are not waiting for the baby but we are waiting for the baby Niki Minaj Niki Minaj I know I am not waiting for Riana I don't know why but I always feel like the day Riana announces she will also break the internet and she is like oh her little baby I will be like so I was really waiting for Riana to get other than that there is actor and singer Donald Glover popularly known as Childish Gambino they welcomed their dad son together with their partner Michelle and it's a baby boy he revealed the news on an interview actually he welcomed a baby boy kitamuki dogo back when Nani George Floyd died all these protests were going on he was in the hospital with the wife so it's something that happened a while back this is the guy who sang this is America yes this is America yes that is the guy and Ruth Matete tumikotum kimongelia for a long while but she also revealed her baby bump photoshoot on instagram and we are just happy for her but I'm sad that she's doing this alone this is what we have not talked about but I saw this I saw somewhere not yet confirmed but Chadwick's wife might be pregnant so let us continue also at least there will be a little child I know there might be a little one coming so we will confirm that for you guys mafanswa Chadwick Bosman that is a lead character Wakanda as we move on and to the next yo kama kia ni kubwa sanhe so we are going to talk about zuri sanha calligraph junks ameza kud tagulyo katikatuzo za BET awards kama the best zuri sanha kwenye hip-hop afrika na kuna kandambo na minimo kipinda kuna but niza tukayona kidogo rikomondi aki kisha komba aki kisha komba ata kwa na nisha tukusona vumpigia kura calligraph junksio lakini kitukingini ambachu watu na fafam ni komba hini kubwa sanhe siki tukidogo ani kia nga liya afrika masyariiki calligraph ndo the only one polish afrika sasano kudia kusinana watu kama kina nasty see na wengi musyosiku tumachu kimi nilete kimi nisho ni octo pezo na fafam komba wana wukaribu sanha na calligraph junksio lakini musyosiku aki kisha komba anambia wa tukandu na tofautizetu lakini aki kisha komba namsapotu aki calligraph junksio rikomondi aki kizungom za palimansu last complete wukatemi kwa nanduru kusio nasa aiyo aigu kutusha anami mi manzezu buda nama sanha manzezu k optimism wakani bada masiona malise ma one day na you kuma ibefika masiona so let's vote masiona kia kide kiki twa pakenya kumana na madami last complete wukatemi nave trendsu bada na nama sanha manzezu Kabisa, ni yuki Nio yungi yungali hakumondan na vuoshe wushio, na penda yu lavna kili ambta ki tuwa yungu voizu, mushosiku na amei wio niku mba tokujiya tuizi, he wunu na adi. So mashabiki piyowa tisha na kisha ni wimba piyatun na votiya kalgdaf agency seze, uzu kupata ushinda, sabab ushinda o tu kwa ahom. Can you actually vote for mtumu anya mechagulu yu ability? Ya. You can? Si. We are no training. Kha mi ni kiwa adi we? I don't know. Ya, you could cos it's a nomination. So for you, for someone to win, si piya is voting. I don't know, I don't know where he saw this but you can't vote for him Like they judge, they get the winners from the work that you have done But I don't know that up for confirmation We are still talking about Kenyans being nominated in the big spaces We have Elsa Majimbo, she has been nominated at the He People's Choice Awards So please go vote for her, let her support our very own I hope that she gets to bring their award home But apparently the thing is not very many people are aware about this I don't know why Elsa Majimbo, she has been nominated at the He People's Choice Awards But she has been nominated at the He People's Choice Awards But I don't know where she is, she is on Twitter South Africans have been nominated And she has also been nominated South Africans have been nominated at the He People's Choice Awards Kenyans were supporting Shia Yozi, it was funny Elsa Majimbo was nominated at the He People's Choice Awards And she has been nominated at the He People's Choice Awards So I don't know where she is In fact, I don't know if she has been nominated at the He People's Choice Awards Maybe she has raced her life in South Africa No, I see the story of her life It's because most of her comedy is in South Africa So that is why I think Because I went through her Instagram to check certain things And I was like, okay, okay, okay That's the vibe I got from that So I think it's true, maybe most people here don't relate But we are sure Majunzi from South Africa has also been nominated for the same award Let's vote for Elsa Majimbo Hey, South Africa So vote I actually voted I voted I think you can vote up to 25 times in a day Yeah I've seen her trying to reach that I voted for her So Elsa, we wish you all the best from Chit Chat To take Kisha Piya CC, we've pushed people and told people We shared for people to vote for you So let the best person in that category win Win, I know No, let Elsa Majimbo win Let the best person in that category win No, let Elsa Majimbo win So you don't get disappointed, sometimes you just Don't put your hopes away No, no, no So, Kikito Kapo, tu megeka tika love affairs Tu megele maawaz, tu megele suyu hito mezalewa Kono atopo, naotopo na katofuna, katikama mobao yaotchoku zalewa Mili bimi eziti sabadaar Si gyo, sababu love affairs ano yolo, mapeziyanona na lafe Nazaharusi Kiza arusi tu na pata Nazahar familiar Yeah, kwele Sini, kwebi mezite se na ukunye ta konozungum, zi mebe bampunini reputmalezalewa Mami nonadi Kwa hi ma bebi? Can we just paste it out? Can't help but chill I share videos and my friends send me emails they post my names in Instagram, so I can punch in my persona ...I believe she'll get to say hi wa hindi miimto kwenini maizhupo Haisha na, pls these pepo have rekkids kwa skrikshot jime toleo ah?  Ni picha himi kwa tozutu kikiwa hini sababu nuwatu na piga na mabusu na vitu kama vile siya propilisa sa ibseo. So ni wadadu wana sema kwa mba akuna trotatu, mga na kwa nasema kwa mba watch, kwee, nituwa jia take care of chalice approach. The child, having to the daughter? Ya na akasema kwa mba piga, lakini nima wana kiki post dota waka sana, so sii hiliwa hini na kwa ya, hini mi kipita instagram ya kwa kwa. Nituwa na eza post na lafu wa... Uwa na post sana, so mshuwa sii kuna mi ni... Kupost sii kuma ni siya umutwa na mchunga. Nituwa hii na manisha una mpenu na nami diali. Kwee wokini post na lafu mi nimgonju uni peliki hospitali na manisha una ni diali. Ni kupost na niku peliki hospitali? Una ni posti. Nya. Kwa zume sema umutwa kiposti na manisha na diali. Kwa kwa mimtua kini post, tu seme una post, umutwa lafu waka tia ana kuitaji, nimgonju uni na mtoto na post. Lakini waka tia ule mtoto na itaji, chakula ni ni simpi. Yo ima nishi na mpenu. Ya na nini na hata una simpi. Ia manisha ina mpenu. So aiko tia tihani pasek shuwa kuma brown mauso, he doesn't take care of... Nituwa kili, mshuwa siku ni... I saw text from the baby mama saying that. What on eza kawanda conversation, so saa... Please Ken. This things can be done. No, let me tell you. Nituwa sikuwa is yo baby mama me fanyanini. Saba kwa sometimes some baby mama is so dramatic. So umutwa shiku wu na kama na elewa na toto kata fanyi na evi. Lakini mshuwa siku tina wana badili eko fanyi na elewa. Nice, I think. So ina kwa craze, Nituwa brown mauso meneza, I come back to kimoja. Kama ni kwe li kumba take care of child support. Aki shuwa kumba wana support wana paweza. But you know sir, like this is just for eitu ni watu anke. Kwa juzi too, I think man's down the line. Alkwa na ambare. Or you didn't see that. Nituwa na post nambare. Wakini ni. Like it is. Like this is not anything. Eitu ni kwangi atu. So watu anke na tu watu watu. It was inginia. What on a head? Siku hei. It's not a head. Watu kama mibachi na tu watu anke na tu watu anke. No, no, no. It's inginia. You had your chance. You had your chance. You had your chance. You had your chance. It's not a team. No, watu atu same evi. Me by the way, I'm just tired of stories of era. Ya. Because everything is just about clout. How sure are you? No, I mean we have. Damunide nezakuwa. Kura nituwa lisema. Every other birthday she has a new boyfriend. Ya, I need you. And every other, especially since I believe it's a singer. Mwenye tu na onge lehaba ut. This person, maybe there is a song coming out. Maybe one atu wa pa nisha nefollow. And then there is also a song. Ima joka tu na nibi. As long as it's on a penia. As long as it's on a penia. Kendelbis. Wacha tu tu kuwa honest with each other. There is no love there. And then after your engagement, muna sema. This it nilituwa kuwa. I mean niza Edgar. There is no engagement. It was just a picture of Vera mesimama iivi aki pigwa. In the hand. There is no engagement. Kwanini atu woni. Photos of you need me down. Atu romantic dinner and everything. It's just for clout. So you're taking it as a tool. So we should see kumuna. Outu na panya iwi tu vera tu fauti. Ya pa na kukuna watu wanyatu na juwadi wei. No, mona me teka atu fanya iwi tu kama kiki ni. Too long about Vera. Too long about Vera. Ya, so talking about Vera. But you don't know Vera personally. You don't know Vera personally. I know you. History. I also don't know her personally. So to watch it kum pangia iwi. To watch it kum jaji atu na foa pigene mamoti. No, you to me put me. See story now. Nenda overboard. Nenda overboard. Like you guys, mwacha utu wape nana. Naka mawa na pina na mukubalua me pendaana. Mwacha kusimua wape nana. Oni kiki. Wei ni umkuna. Ni ni umnai shina. Muna juwa kama wa na pina na mwata nana. Piya una juwa deep down. No. It's for clubs. Kumuswa siku na yuwa, Kama utu na kutu wape nana. It's for clubs. Yipitja, yipitja. Wa piya tia na miki tida wa. Ame piwa. Am piwa kutu wape nani iwi mkuna. It's okay. When people... Tono na daka wa pijivi piwa na na fanya mapeziya wa wonjiya waw. Is it getting personal? No, it's not getting personal. It's Vera. Ni muswa siku ni na nasungumza vitu mbawu mimunye tani na ripen. Sabaw wum naji aribu fuuwe ka otu ii shikatika maisha flani. So, now? Ya Now, right? Spik. Zubum, Zeka Let me tell you, no. an engagement when you're proposing to someone, no one has said that people should Nildiw no one has said people should nildiw but people do that. People do that. People do that. That's why you guys. So, wana mejadi wa kad tu mese ma kombakorina. Una wana mejadi. Si ku-jaj, nuken actually And then Let me tell you, we learn most from our history We learn most from where we're coming from And you're supposed to go, you're supposed to be unique Do your thing, your own way We're not about to be real We're not about to be real Quick example Quick example Sai if Diamond got into a relationship with someone else Someone new What you do to say me kama zuchu Wunda kuni yambia, from villetumio na history Si si we nye, we will just know Iki tu by the way Kuna ma li tu, atapa tamu toto Kuna ma li tu, atapa tamu toto Kuna ma li, kuna kiki tukumatia kama ziki So nani tu nongelia apat vera Ali amechen skinka la kwa ze se kwa kika kwa kika kwa So this is a No Kuna msa waksuli wana se ma je Muwe uwa muema So msu shi ku witi wubadili kana Siwa we want to be Ame na, ame na kiki tukumatia Siya muwe Siya kama inawin, gifi tu myuwe Myuwe myuwe Ame na no, yum na hate Nakini watazi di kusho lab na Next please Next please I can't just wait I can't wait for this to be a publicity stand And then in your face We told you I honestly can't wait If you must say really it's okay but they have just gone love So that's its trap Tu na ame na bachu me share You gotta pick a side You're either for them angry percent I'm for them angry percent I believe in them Let's wait for this love Let's wait for this love to flow See the way they're good, the cup of the love We saw things without Tile Brown Without Tile Brown We can just see the love What was the love to see What was the love to see What was the love to see You see love on their faces and everything You see love on their faces Watch and you go This guy is just deep deep down Can I please can now see love on their faces Since when Watch and confirm Can you see love on my face Patricia Patricia left them and watch and confirm kitu moja So here's the story we're going to say We're not voting for Caligraf Jones So nimenda kwa Instagramyake And he says Thank you all for the overwhelming support You're all showing me because of my BET nomination To everybody who is asking how you can vote Unfortunately you can't The winner will be picked Based on the amount of work they have They have been putting in We are optimistic because I don't see Anyone who has outwagged me on the list But no matter the outcome We're generally happy because We're starting to get the shine it deserves Kenyan he popped to the wall The OG shall be respected There's something that you forgot Apu kumashita exak OG must be respected No nimesema the OG shall be respected The OG shall be respected Oh God Next story What's GZ? Okay let us respect the OG Top to top kabisa Nini nimi tukia VIP Ibu melekinam taratara Tumigotu kwa ngele We talked about this story a while back Tukasema in the process of getting a divorce Kulkwana story a prenup That document you signed that says Kitu eni umeku janae Dona eni janae I remember last time When we were talking about this story We felt like the wife wanted things That she's never worked for But actually she was a smart woman They have projects that they did And businesses they did together Yes, so now It's like Dr. Dre might win this thing Because the wife was seeking Spousal support Anasema pier recently That she has been receiving death threats So she wanted the judge She requested the judge to be given $1.5 million in expenses Including security An additional $5 million To pay her lawyers as well as other costs But this request was denied So clearly who is Likely to win here And actually Dr. Dre siyati akona any issue Giving her and supporting her If it was to divorce, I think I'd want To divorce this kasajaman He actually said he's gonna cater For our expenses So what is she? Anatuta maa Because Dr. Dre has no problem Yes And her lawyer And about the security I saw that she already had security Like the same security that Dr. Dre But now she Chased away Security that is offered By the ex-husband And now wants new security Which is now more expensive Than what the hubby was offering Simple simple simple I said no, this is really simple She didn't have any problem What's your problem? Ask Nikolia Go to Instagram And look for young And then take her What's your problem See what's your problem See what's your problem See what's your problem See what's your problem See what's your problem See what's your problem Basime Basime She didn't email He just左 This show right now? It didn't matter I'm not a woman I am Patrisha Muriwiki So you are not a woman So, who are you? So, you're not a woman? What should I do to say maybe? Please have something going on for yourself. Because now, according to me, she's doing too much, by the way. She's doing too much. She's doing too much. She's doing too much. And I find her too much. Ya, I want to ame kubali kumipia all these things. How she complicates things. You have seen that. I'm trying not to support you, but... Do you like that? You're so personal. No, I'm not personal. I just don't feel right because other people are not right. I feel pain, you understand? And that is not good. Love is the greatest commandment. Since when do you believe in love? I've been saying that I believe in love. I've just said that love is the greatest commandment. And by showing love, you should not give people hard time. Still come in earlier. But let me tell you, love is never enough. Period. Let's move on. Nikoliang, you know that to me. These two things means other things to stand together. So, love ain't enough by itself. What do you want? It's more than love. I don't know if he has started dating or he has a chile or he has what. I don't know. That might explain all this. So, Nikoliang and me having a chiles in Indiana. Let's be at least here. Nikoliang and me. Today you're just so emotional. No, I'm just being real.  Watch your language. Watch your language. I'm sorry. So, sayvi, tu na sama kitu kimoji. Na chia kumeti ku piti ya. Kuma in section ku piti ya. Pedi ya Y-2-5-4. Na ono tumeo tuza miko apia. Lafpia na tuza nila siku leo tu na uli zage. Ina kwa agi. Mambo ya na kwa VP. Ya, amtu na faku ngeka tika mausia na loa kia waka tika umbri gani. Na muna liya un liya na sama uliakta. Na penkila de mafia na sama locked out from Kisumu Town. Ni tiaze mavela makol heritage. Na ono na iframo maa na sama kilelesha ware represented kabum. Lafuna na elod maura na sama you can marry at your pleasure. Don't let people set limits for you. Lafuna na elopidia sumusia na sama locked from Taveta. Churu tima na sama 3245 na faku ngeka tika mausia na ando. Fadili chibeta na sama watching live from Mumiya. Lafuna na Nielsen Shina na sama 28 after eating Ujiana. Lafuna na Kidol Melod na sama 28 to 30. Na ono na Sylvenu Kuku wa mlelongo na sama mlelongo in. Lafuna na Edo Siva na sama in from Eldoret. Lafuna na mone impress on a vasha na sama hi. Na sama impress on vasha niko locked from Biga Peter kina uliya na digital. Na ono maresuma na sama 20 to 28. Na sama Apple Sinsao na wacheki nikiwa mwangani makinon Kuali County. Na nana Zungumu Samkusha na sama watching from Nakurum. Na naki domini kiniwutu na sama kisi County kia umbebez tune in. Na sama hedge for marriage is 40. Kuz let's start at 40. Imam jimsa na sama oya na mambia oya. Lafu weru pola na sama mitamboni kutukanya re accounting daani. Na ono na Suale Biga na sama 24 to 26 years. Na pita kina uliya na digital. Na sama KCC ma lewani vasha. Bama uliya sana gote diye shoti akambi na re KCC. Lafuna na ono na Ero Siva na sama Eldin daani. Lafuna na nami na Zungumu Samkusha na sama from 21 to 25. Na sama hashtag Chita Basila weina na sama Basila watching the show from Machakos looking so cool guys as always. Na sama at the age of 28 one can get married. It will depend upon you when you are able to manage a family of a great evening, a great show. Lafuna na ono na mimi na ito am sama kwele. Ibu tumbi ukulaka na sama in the age of 20 kutu sana. Na sama na evasha pomu uliya sana gote pita kina re kiniwutu na digital. Kyo KCC ma lewa. Na na dinez okilokia na sama aji. Na sama logsini kikiwa na evasha. Edge is just a number. Lafuna na dimilokia nga uliya na sama High Little Martin. Edwin Dimashia na sama katambia pamuiki. Nuna Kelvin Masha na sama kina nga upoere represented. Na ono marina Francis Karish na sama aji. Na sama kiri niya kikiwa West watching men 25 women 20. Lafuna na dimilokia nga uliya na sama aji. Na sama watching as usual. Na siya babako na sama tuning from Dandora. Monome 23 years, monome 25 years. Ono niya nga atakami niliwa na miaka 20 years. Hebu tumbi ii kovip experience. Lafu kalale wa niya na sama to get married. Kwanza ini miaka 18 miikondani. Ani sama tiku pamojiya di tamati. Please go to Vegas in Menfikia. Pretty Adige Adele Amo na sama from 27. Lafuna na Joellen Punta wa Isuza. Na sama shu ni kiwa Isuza bunyo re-restoya. Ngu marriage kwangu na dani 18 kweneliwa puntuita bidi. Na ono kusia Diza Western na sama 18 kudenda aji. Hebu na producer. Ati manu hebu tumbi kudenda aji. Isa same. Zini kwa cheku metu. Pitya koma section. Pitya pia Y254 Kiru. Ila kwa sasa chetu patipu mziku fupit na Ruri. Na buru da ani zaydi.