Hello, everyone, and welcome to Think Tech Hawaii's Human-Humane Architecture. And I am the program's co-host, DeSoto Brown. And joining us by audio from Switzerland, where he currently is, is the show's host, Martin Despang. Martin, good afternoon, or good morning to you. Hello, DeSoto, and more specifically, I'm in Zurich, and that's important to make because Switzerland is not Switzerland, but anyways, but we want to talk about back home, right, DeSoto? We are, we are. Because there's a pressing problem. That's right. And it's a problem that we were addressing already at the turn of the year, actually, the show, the last show in last year was done by Tonya Moy, when I was back in Germany, and with Jay Fidel, and they were talking about a potential insignificance of our significant mile, and tell us what the significant mile is, isn't it? Well, the, some people use the term, magnificent mile, for Kapiolani Boulevard. And one of the important buildings, or building complexes on Kapiolani Boulevard is behind me right now. You can see it. It's the Kenrock building. But I think if we want to go to, well, first of all, before we do that, before we get into the history of Kapiolani Boulevard, let's look at our first slide, and we'll see what it is we're talking about that's happening with Kapiolani Boulevard now, because we're changing. It's a changing thing. So here we are with our first picture. This is... And Tonya was brought... Oh, there we are. Correct. Yes. Go ahead. Tonya was rather moderate as she is, and talking about the history, which we will do specifically to this one building. But then Jay is always more open, and he was saying, you know, the new developments that he sees, you know, he caused them junk. Right. And we see two of them here, but we don't want to talk about junk. We want to talk about jewels today, right? Correct. That's exactly right. So let's move on, and you share these pictures here from the archive that describe how it looked way, way back, right? Absolutely. So at the bottom picture, you'll see Kapiolani Boulevard in its early stages. And Martin and I were discussing how Kapiolani Boulevard was built as a boulevard. It was built to be wide. It was built to be straight. It did not have any buildings along it originally when it was developed, starting in 1929 up through the 1930s. And so it was lined with empty spaces originally. So that picture from 1940 shows you Kapiolani Boulevard with virtually nothing there. One of the things that occurred because there was so much open space was in the 1950s, Kapiolani Boulevard was the site of most of Honolulu's used car lots. And so there's a picture of a 1950s used car lot with light bulbs strung overhead and everybody's wonderful Buicks and Oldsmobiles are available for purchase. And then we've got two small commercial buildings from the 1950s, and the very upper top part is of this slide. You can see the Liberty Mutual Building, which actually was called the Miyamoto Building, built in about 1953. And then the Bishop National Bank Building, which is what's today's first Hawaiian bank building. It's got a nice breezeway frontage on Kapiolani Boulevard. It was located Makai across the street of where today's first Hawaiian bank is now. And Martin, what did you want to say about this building? Well, me, who had the chance and pleasure to put the pictures together in the way we have it, I choose the one at the top left as being so, I think, typical for sort of this motorway architecture attitude to have buildings that are almost like trucks, you know, aligning the streets. And you can see this has beautiful breeze block in there. So it's very tropical, exotic, yet very modern.  This tries to be, you know, America at its best, at its peak, at its heyday, right? Right. Right. And as we were discussing last... So to the next picture... I was going to say, as we were discussing last night, the Kenrock Building also falls into this as wanting to be as up to date as possible and to show that Hawaii was a modern place, a modern American place, and not in old fashioned and not substandard and not out of touch. Absolutely. And next slide is how I got to know the building first. This is when one of the architects was still around, who unfortunately passed away last year. We'll use and see if we're on the next slide already. Yeah, we are. This is Frank Haynes, who's a founding principal of Architects Hawaii. And he was helping with the tour day of Dokomomo. I think this was in 2013, rather soon after I arrived. I was rather impressed, you know, how enthusiastic, how Frank was, you know, talked about the whole development of the street. And as you can see here in particular, the Kenrock Building that we see in the back. And the Kenrock Building is currently threatened to be torn down and to be redeveloped. The site, which made us to do a little documentary. And so if we go to the next slide and the next slide will be your documentary, the photo which you had kindly done this shooting here. Good job. And you want to share that with you, right? Yeah, so the Kenrock Building, even though it is called a building, actually consists of three separate buildings, developed over a period of about 12 years. And interestingly, although there was a long time span there, they all have a similar facade facing the street. They do go together very nicely. There are some differences between them, which we will get into very shortly. But as you can see, there's a central building and then two on either side. And they were not built in that order. That today they are called Buildings A, B, and C. They actually were built at a different time table than the way they are called today. Pardon me for being so inarticulate there. Let's go to our next picture. Yeah, we went and because I'm how far away is 7,286 miles, it says at the bottom because I googled that. Okay. And Miracle 2 modern technology, we can do that. So here you can see the layout. And you were pointing out that in the back, that big chunky, chunky piece is Walmart or Sam's Club. And so before in front of that, the finger, like the three fingers is the Kenrock building. Right. It's like the letter E. I also put in the north, yeah, and I put in the north area here, which is always very important to us. So we can see that the buildings are principally facing south, which is the street down there. So these three fingers basically get east-west orientation. So you can get some cross breeze. However, the middle building is actually sort of two buildings back-to-back. So we've got two offices with back-to-back. So we got exterior walkways here, which we can see on the right side. But these buildings are a little disadvantaged because they're double loaded corridors, but with two separate outdoor accesses. Whereas the other ones, which we'll see, have single loaded corridors. So orientation-wise, which is always the first check if a building is good. The client brief, which Alyssa from DoCo Mobile kindly provided us with a brief of the client. That client particularly asked for a building to be in balance with the natural elements, which wasn't that unusual if we're talking with century 50s because air conditioning was invented, as Don Hibbert once taught me when the first one was. That was a little earlier even, but it wasn't really implemented. No, it was uncommon. So these buildings are still pretty biochromatic and tropical exotic. Yes. And just very beautiful in that sense. So let's move on to the next picture, which is... I think I got this here from a brush here. So thank you guys for providing. And then our originally architects of Y, as you can see, provided these original drawings. So this is here, that longitudinal section of a particular part of the building, that middle part, where the offices are basically floating above, which we see on the next picture that you took. So the whole side is pretty much like a big parking lot, which makes sense for mid-century, where the car was the new thing. Yes. Bring it by, and you want to maximize parking. And then you made the buildings pretty much float above, which is also a theme and residential in Honolulu. Yes, it is. Beautiful two to three story walk-ups. Yeah, Ray, go to the next picture. We talked about... There we go. Yeah, and this is what Martin is saying. The central building of the Kenrock Building cluster is, as he said, floating above a parking area. So because it doesn't get to use the first and second floor for offices, two floors of offices are put on one floor. That's why it's double-loaded. The other two buildings have a first floor and a second floor, and that makes them a little bit different. So if we go to the next picture here, we see how that building then looks from the outside. So due to the orientation of the building, as you can see here, this is probably somewhere midday, where you get a little bit of that shading from the overhang. But you can also already see that you can get the very west evening sun, and the very early morning sun is sort of hitting that facade. So there are buildings by Frank Haines, something that's very close to me, Sinclair Library, just the other building next to my very unfortunate building I have to work in. But Sinclair Library is a Frank Haines designed building that is very beautiful and perfectly placed and positioned due to the sun and this building here. But this is a commercial typology, and the lot was given. So again, I think they did the best that they were able to under the given conditions. Correct. And you know what? This is a deep lot. The frontage is not so extensive, but it extends back from the frontage. So the only direction that they could put the buildings was in the way that they are. And that does, as you said, get the morning and afternoon sun, but that was the configuration of where they were able to build. And if we go to the next picture, we can see one of the other two buildings, which you explained, and they're basically two-story. And so they're sort of framing the lot at the very ever end and at the diamond head end. Correct. This is also the permanent picture whenever we see that. That's right. That's right. So should we move on to the next one? Let's go to our next picture. And here's another one of the plans. This is for the first time that was built. It's dated 1948. And so the construction was from 1948 to 1960. And of course in between, the existing buildings continued to function in between those periods where they were building new things too. And we were analyzing that. We said it's a very clean, very efficient and effective floor plan that you like the size of the rooms, the units, everything very tangible. And with the shared spaces like the bathrooms, so centralized, it reminded us of another building that's unfortunately gone, which is Ward Plaza, which had a similar layout with centralized bathrooms where people every now and then were working down the exterior hallways, catching debris, catching a breath and basically going and chatting to each other. So a very, very social attitude, very social notion of the building, very sort of human scale, you said as well, right? And also exterior access, no interior hallways. You're going from your offices, you're walking outdoors rather than indoors, and therefore you don't have to air condition that, and therefore I think, and I think you think too, it's a more pleasant experience, particularly in our climate, where it doesn't get brutally cold. Absolutely, not at all. So let's move on to the next picture, where we can see the other little wing, and that's just the diamond head wing, and you can see the Alamoana building in the background that we will talk about again in a little bit. So once again, very, very pleasant as you say, and we got another drawing. The next slide is again here, looking at the elevation, the original pictures. And as sort of casual, the buildings are as clean and clean and mean as these drawings. They're just like nice and simple. There's nothing made up. There's no Hawaiian ornament needed to make them look cool as they do today. This is simple, but this is appropriate. So we can call this, you know, tropical exotic in the best sense, don't we? Yes, agreed. So the next picture is looking again at the other sort of framing wing here, which shows us again the layout of the buildings and the sort of clean horizontal line, which is always something very iconic and very sort of typical format century. And the next picture is a beautiful shot you took, which made me curious when I was zooming in. I saw that little bird at the very bottom right, which was either landing or taking off. And it's sort of celebrating that also very sort of, almost aero seren and TWA-like there, a building we just talked about some shows ago. And look at that stair. Isn't that beautiful? Isn't that sexy? Wonderful. And it flares out at the bottom. My heart is bleeding, and my heart is bleeding to see that go away. And it better be replaced by something that's at least as good. That's what we hope. But it's got that flare at the bottom of the stairway that is a nice smooth curve on the inner side and the lower side. And let's look at that stair on the next picture as well. Right. In a shot from looking down at it. And we were saying it's almost sucking people up there. The second floor is traditionally a little disadvantaged because on the first floor people can just roll into the unit whereas going up is always a challenge. But here through the excellence of architecture and detailing and tectonics, they just made it sort of very welcoming to get up. And this is also from a time period where they were doing these beautiful stair railings, individual stair railings out of wrought iron that were very clean, very geometric, but very typical of the time. And I think probably something you would never see today because it would take a lot of hand work and that's probably not something that people would pay for or be able to afford anymore. Unfortunately. And another very iconic thing they did in the past we'll see on the next picture. And another typology that this one here is sort of a sister or a sibling of, we said as motels or as little strip malls, which is a little strip mall if you want so. And essentially they were always incorporating greenery and planters. And not only here in Hawaii where we have a 12 month growing cycle but also on the mainland. And these planters are sort of ironically mostly covered up by roofs or by hallways here so they had to be watered artificially and drip irrigated or whatever. But this shows that if tenants still care for the building they keep it green and people do hear. So we have to say this building is not empty, is not vacated by the clients or by the customers. People love that building. Still working, it's functioning, it's looking well until that raises the question why replacing it. Well because you can make more money. You can make more money developing it in another way. Yeah, but before we talk about that let's celebrate what the building is or soon we'll have been. So next picture is what you took here is the end, the front end of the building where the hallway sort of slips or slides into this sort of plane. A very beautiful architectural composition. And the next slide shows that in the sort of elevation of appearance. And you can see also that we've seen that in other very utilitarian functional simple but elegant building. Yes. Of the few story walk-ups that very cleverly hear the walkways are basically widened at certain points where here where the staircase lands and then they are narrowed and goes into that little goes into that little slit and that little slit goes into the sort of the money-shot part of the building which we see on the next picture which you so iconically caught here on your photograph and these are these front ends of the hallways that look so iconic and that look so fresh and so we were saying we were discussing yesterday they almost have a residential scale that would almost be the nice of a resident and biochromatically these are best because these are facing south so the horizontal overhang takes away the mid-day sun where the framing slabs take care of the morning and the evening so this is perfect, biochromatically perfect and I can see myself and you having all my ties up there on the lawn. Yeah, looking at cars going by. But you see also too something else that is very typical of this time in the mid-century period the contrast of the smooth white concrete of the second floor and the textured Arizona flagstone of the first floor and that contrast was something people really liked in mid-century. And let's zoom into that on the next slide which you took some nice detail shots here Arizona flagstone as people can tell comes from Arizona where I've been for two years before I came to join you to Soto here that was very popular on the mainland in sort of the middle class developments, residential fireplaces were clad with that and certain parts of the entrances and they were emphasized in the horizontality it reminds me of a building in Chicago in the north coast when Frank Barthright was still working for Sullivan and so over emphasizing the horizontal mortar joint and sort of diminishing the vertical one it's all about that. You said before this has little to do with Hawaiian locality and lava rock and all this stuff we talked about but this is about we want to be as good as on the mainland or better. Absolutely, right that is exactly it. We are showing that we are as modern and as up to date as anyplace else in the United States that was something that was very much of the zeitgeist of that time period in the Hawaiian Islands. And isn't that a model that should still be true, right? We live on the most beautiful place in the United States so every building has to be more beautiful than anywhere else, right? That's right, that's right. We shouldn't give up on that agenda. So the next picture is another building because K Boulevard isn't just that building there's plenty of them and another one is almost across the street tell us which one that is and what are your memories about that one. Right, this is the Boycent Paint Company building which is late 1940s so it's the same age as the first Kenrock building and it was originally built for the Boycent Paint Company. They did not however just sell paint there. There was a retail store for housewares, furniture, etc. My mother bought our dinner plates there which we used when I was a little kid she still talks about that. My ex-sister-in-law worked there in the 1960s and unfortunately unlike the Kenrock building the Boycent Paint Company is in very poor condition. It does have however the same Arizona flagstone as we can see in these pictures here as the Kenrock building so just down the street we've got a sister or brother or cousin of the Kenrock building this is probably doomed as well right next to it is the newest very tall high-rise on Capilani Boulevard and the very poor and rather derelict condition of the building suggests that it's not going to be around much longer either unfortunately. So now let's get to the point that we have to unfortunately and go to the next picture please the reason why these buildings all have to go is as you were already hinting is pretty much capitalism and it's predator capitalism because you want to go higher and bigger and the building in the back here is dated 1980s and this is sort of more mediocre mainland architecture that one basically that invaded us back in the 80s at that corner and that trend of basically densifying and getting more money out of your lot is continuing and let's move on to the next picture this is a building picture I took when it was under construction shortly after I came in 2012 this is on the Alamoana mall side and this is they built on top of a parking garage this is general growth properties the owner here and look at that building where is the lanai for me there is no such thing as not having a lanai in Hawaii but here they do it this is a glazed microwave and if you have a kid until the mall was building that funny little playground feature very recently when they redeveloped the former Nordstrom wing you could not play anywhere unless behind your glazed and baking window right in your window let's go to the next picture that is a building a little further down on the ever end this is next to the which almost we talked about that in almost every other shoulder blaze they'll send which worries us so much their redevelopment and they built that which they call the symphony and the symphony that's happening in that building is the symphony again of the sun baking its tenons unless they put that push that AC button which basically prevents them from basically it glares and it burns almost right yeah and remember that there was a controversy for a time about they had used a tint that was illegal because it was either too shiny or too dark and at which point it was impossible to take it off financially so it's still there exactly and another no go is the orientation of the building because this thing is blocking the Malka Makai winds they should have turned this 90 degrees which gets to the next picture of one of our most favorite building yeah which was not only the first high rise in Honolulu but the first but it was on Kapiolani Boulevard and this is the Alamoana building and how popular that building has been and still is shows you this sort of collage of references we have made to Y5O to Magnum to Blue Hawaii Elvis and all these things and next picture is a Malka this is the building not quite completed because when it was completed it actually looked like at the top right is a picture I found on the web and I love that one because it looks like the picture of the symphony we had before but it's the opposite because this building here then was sort of completed with beautiful sun retractable louvers that were gold tinted on one side and dull aluminum on the other one and that's probably the gold side closing and keeping the building cool I mean what we call the cool commercial classic or something that show if you guys are interested go back so let's look at today two pictures you took here the next page here this is the newest high rise development that just went up next to the boys in building and you saw a man without a head here yes poor man he was walking around headless and we can assume the way we see him here he's not on the upper end of the food chain I would think so and this is what that building is about it's called affordable and if we do a quick assessment the building I think orientation wise you know never mind it's also blocking the wind but architecturally sort of artistically it has a nice that's good it has obviously here a single double loaded corridor because on the east and west we see that slit of glass and at least it tries to bring light in there we were saying okay you know if it's sort of principally not that bad how is it architecturally does it touch you the solo as much as the Kenrock and boys in buildings do no no it does not and that there are lots of reasons for that and certainly everything that we've been talking about a high rise can never have the detailing that is a low rise building can a high rise is always going to be a much less human structure than a low rise building is we also acknowledge as we have to that Honolulu is a big city with lots of big buildings in it we're not going to undo that but one of the things that you'd like to say is that if you're going to replace something you've got to replace it with something that's equally special or equally valid okay let's conclude the show that way with an optimistic outlook and let's go to the next slide because in little respect for this agreement the Alamoana building a commercial development this century had the same sexiness as the Kenrock building obviously in a different way but unfortunately now it's naked it's stripped naked so let's go to the next slide which shows when the emerging generation myself went up into the Alamoana building and exploring it we're looking down on the boulevard and seeing a very very unique feature of it which is you told me that it's unique to Honolulu in this way which is the alignment with these huge wonky pot trees and that greenery and we were just saying what if that greenery could be the inspiration for the next phase of the innovation of tradition and let's go to the next picture and you share a little bit because you're an expert in that building because I see on the very upper left at a review about the project right well this is one of Martin's classes projects and this is Primitiva 2 and the purpose of doing these projects is to be innovative is for these students at UH to think differently and think about different stuff and to be more open to the natural environment which we see in the rendering here and of course in the model you can see with the stairs going between the two levels of the build of the floors there's a lot of openness in the next picture we again playfulness being innovative the open stairways are actually lined with a kind of netting and this is where kids can play this is a safe place it's not metal there are movable nets in which kids can clamber, climb go on the stairs, do stuff within the building that they live in and if we go to the next picture we've got this is a particularly interesting thing and Martin pointed this out to me on the top of the Alamoana building was the La Ronde rotating restaurant and that is of course a horizontal disc but at the top of Primitiva 2 there could be a vertical disc and that could be a treadmill so as he says it's like a hamster wheel it's like a little a little pet running on a wheel endlessly people could use that as a form of exercise but them doing that turning that wheel can also do things mechanically in the building like help run the elevators well of course it's still fantasy at this point but this is the type of thinking that can be done outside the box literally to get us to a different type of outlook as to how Honolulu gets redeveloped and the final picture is showing then how the building was then only then looked like because that's how it works and it also has water curtain walls to introduce another natural element so I think our pitch is the sort of that we say if you have to densify our city which we're not against and you have to take away these jewels we want you to think it over and really be sure you want to do it but if you do it you have to replace it as we said a couple times with something significantly better than it already was very very good so that's what we give the developers and hope they listen to us there we go well I think that's going to bring us to the end it does it brings us to the end of our program today and there he is back on the screen hello again everyone thank you Martin for joining us from Switzerland from Zurich we'll be back at some point I'm going to be traveling myself but Martin will be back on the air at least verbally are you going to be on the air next week Martin or somebody else well next week we have our concluding show with our documomo board members look forward to that one then you will travel next week and then we will of course do a show I'm so eager to hear because the SOTO is going to the to the world conference of Tiki and so Tiki Oasis San Diego I'm looking forward to that one and for that one we will both be back in studio so again everybody we'll see you on the next time you tune in to think Tech Hawaii's human humane architecture and until then aloha


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You know I'm saying Be a pal would have had he would have had a pop goatee if he if he started when he went about if he started shaving a little the peach fuzz But he's here now. He made it Tim. What's up, buddy? Yeah, I mean we ain't we ain't even talk about nothing We just been talking we really didn't talk nothing if those shazers had I'll shave the beard for sure I Would lock that right now if both shaves his head, I'll shave the beard. Yes It's easy beard grows back in a week That's really not difficult Really no, he's gonna watch him a call it. He would uh his hair would take way longer. We'll go back My beard will be back in a week Those would cry after a bad haircut.  Imagine a kid that gets bullied talking about how bad he would get bullied. There it is. See Ball those about I mean he got to switch something up for the next bot wars He on the verge of being out Lou Those on the verge of being out. Honestly, he got to do something different Yeah, I'm not sure my brothers. I got me chopped. That's not happening. Yeah, why would you get bullied for being bald?  You like mr. Clean And then it's like okay really not that powerful, bro They're really not that powerful. They're really not that bad They're really not that bad dude Yeah, I'm a fud. What I got and then it's like okay Listen, let me tell you something about life. You can't really make fun of something like When God himself Makes you that way. It's not my fault, right? Like Vilma he got the Jeff Van Gundy. It's not his fault.  You can make fun of them or have their certain haircut or dress a certain way You understand and that's easier to make fun of because they chose that They chose it. I Didn't choose this you understand That's the way I was made so for me Yeah, you know, so it's I don't think you can make fun of people for that Am I copying a VR set?  He don't move enough. He flat-footed. He don't know how to fight He don't know how to box. I told y'all boxing is like 80% legs, and he just being there just like He being there just flailing with the arms.  He don't block he just No mellow see but for real dude Like so for me, I don't think I really have the room The room to do the VR boxing in this in this place when I get a new place when I get a house one more space I'll definitely be copping the VR because I think VR it's gonna be more and more going forward Yeah, if Earl did wheelchair boxing is wheelchair boxing a thing. I It's probably out there wheelchair boxing It probably is Earl might Earl really He might really win that He might really pop. Yeah, the one punch power Bro, he'd be getting fried, bro. You know, he won't lose bro. I mean this room is kind of temporary So we get another house for a throw It started off like It started off.  This is what's crazy If Earl won a fight just picture what the other guy looked like all I'm saying just picture that Throw some real punches.  I Went to the PO box a lot of you guys asked me Um, can I send stuff for the baby for CP to the PO box? If you put exclamation point PO box in the chat the PO box will pop up PO box boom, there it is if you guys want to say anything my man Eric who's in the chat all the time Said there's news congratulations to you and Mrs. W on the newest member Eric and Lauren Eric my man Eric phase always in here sent me the Eagles Boom the Eagles onesie right there with Eagle logo, but on the back big dub For the CP to man CP to right there on the back of his jersey now Hit number two might really be his number. I don't know Number two might really be his number now I'm saying Might really be his number now with the with the CP to on the back Yeah, my man Eric fate Eric fate. He's always in here most of the time So I don't know if he's here now, but the CP to yeah, that's tough Honestly when I first saw I didn't even see I didn't even see it had anything in the back I said just got the Eagles logo on the front nice green Sad so that's dope can't wait. So I like I said we said is number two really his number Jeter I have the Jeter rookie car Jeter might be one of his people Number two is a good number Jalen Hertz Jalen Hertz. No, I don't think Jalen Hertz is mixed. I Think he is kind. No, Jalen Hertz is like brown skin He's on the he's like kind of lightest brown skin though. I don't know I Don't know but he's definitely not mixed. I don't think Lonzo is number two Yeah, we'll see it could be a possibility It could be a possibility. I mean at the end of the day ultimately I think he'll pick his number, but We'll see But shout out to Eric for that Definitely on the list. We got the cards from Skolmo with the vogue clicko champagne from Skolmo We got the car from RG my man Shrek flew in the other ones that I think I put that in the wash The other Eagles onesie So definitely a lot of things in the mailbox CP2 is mailbox CP2 might go crazy. We actually went out today She had a doctor's appointment with the Costco. We brought him to Costco. It was his first Costco trip I'll be honest.  We always walk through there and get different Chocolates of the world and knick-knacks of Europe and Africa and stuff like that Costco is nasty, bro No, I didn't touch any of the same. I know I'm afraid of samples now, bro. I'm afraid of samples I'm afraid of the Costco samples No, I'm afraid of samples Beers of the world.  What yeah Guinness I kind of like a Guinness. I kind of like a Guinness I don't know. I kind of like to stout every once in a while now the stout I feel like you can only do 12 ounces or something you are you're not pounding You're not pounding 40 ounces of stout.    Cute for me. I don't know.   I don't know if you guys it's probably the easiest liquor in the world to drink Um Golden monkey is yeah, see I was a big victory guy Philadelphia big I think victory is like Pennsylvania Philadelphia Yeah, golden monkey was I put everybody on a golden monkey. Yes. I've had the white Henny Warhol Yeah Guinness Shit's hard, bro the Kraken I only drink fireball when I'm watching twilight and I've never seen twilight There's a fireball Yeah fireball is like I Imagine a lot of people's first shot is fireball, right? I don't know Other than like when you're in eighth grade and you find any liquor to drink Really? It was pinnacle. We had the struggle was pinnacle pinnacle was the I guess it wasn't really a struggle But pinnacle was the cheapest My first shots was 99 bananas That's that's how we went. That's how listen when your first shots are 99 bananas No, while turkey is good shit, Joe to see 99 bananas is like I bro Rumpelments see VTech always put me on the rumpelments.  All right, we're getting real nasty right now We're getting real nasty right now boys. I'll be honest. I just heard a story of shitting on the floor I don't know what's going on. See I just came by with his Malibu Malibu, yeah, Malibu. Yeah, so I'm saying floor as you get the Michelobes I'm in a Michelob lifestyle now, bro boons farm I Will be honest the Malibu dr. Pepper skimbo drink is kind of gas I don't know if there's a better drink walking walking the earth, bro The Malibu dr. Pepper. It's kind of good Pops they take it too far Really Malibu is a high school girl drink it is it is Man doomed squad with the seven months and my man tatted newp with the three months tatted It's kind of a good to drink. I'm not a drink. I would ever order You know, it's not it's not it's not a drink. I would order. I would never order Malibu At a bar never, you know, yo my one buddy errant do rag. I don't know do rag Dwighty I don't know if I did my football guy that was on my football Remember I told you he was like he jumps out the moon with dunk on everybody and he was the y receiver on our team When I tell you my man errant, he never drank, right? He never drank ever like ever drink But he did like Malibu and pineapple and Malibu or what's it called? It's a drink. I swear to god. There's a Malibu drink.    Oh my god. There it is bust out. There it is The Malibu Bay Breeze.  That is a skimbo special right there Oh my yes, that's it Malibu Bay Breeze.  That's a boundary. You can't really Right. I that's that I can't go that way, man The gin gin is gin is a different type. I have some bomb-based sapphire on the shelf back here Gin is a different type of it's a different type of punch in the face. Honestly Malibu and big red Hold up. What's big red? When you say big red, I think about cinnamon. Am I wrong? I think about cinnamon gum. Is that is that what big red is?  Moscow mule.  The copper the copper cup Yeah, you're a tool. I mean listen, it was like I had a couple months of a Moscow mule the copper cup. Yeah I was like, oh, what's this try it?  Malibu bay breeze 100 percent 100 percent. I don't know what Cisco is. Do you know? I don't know what that is I just get iced coffee with no sugar. Just cream Straight killer pain. Yeah Mojitos mojitos Mojitos mojitos Mojito And this goes back as I see brusky said mojitos It reminds me of when joke and evil.  I I like a whiskey ginger ale That was all jameson ginger ale that was always like my if if I didn't get a beer It was always whiskey ginger ale was pretty much the go-to really right there Jack and ginger ale jameson ginger ale. She liked that really then I just went to Like uh, like Tommy said just shot in a beer really blue moon If if your beer needs a garnish It shouldn't be a beer you might have if you order listen the man that orders a blue moon also orders a moscow mule and that's fine Like matt marcoo big moscow mule guy matt marcoo is a big mule guy 100 He's a big moscow mule guy Yo, what's it all that bro?  It was like cosmopolitan Kiv was drinking grayhounds.  Wiggy gray goose grapefruit juice grapefruit.  That's what's crazy. It's not a shot. It's literally a bottle cap Like it's a bottle cap. They fill the bottle cap You feel me?   Why is this like why why is this being Brought to me as something that I'm supposed to cherish cement Yeah, so I'm telling you Like no, bro Yes, they yes jesse. It's like a mummy.  Y'all y'all had to ever clear. I didn't had to ever clear before for sure the ever clear shots 150 one time I One time we I had Like a cup no lie. Like, you know, like a little cup like this It was 151 ever clear and the hennessey and we they mixed it And I was like, yeah, I'll do that. No, I did that. It's kind of rough Mad dog. I never was a mad dog 2020 type of guy ever clear.  It has to be like tackle tuesday to get a mark.  I feel like you kind of got to be in that type of vibe for the margarita I don't know It's a single day mild type of thing Order a margarita from buffalo wild wings.  I remember um What was it? I don't know if I went like the freshman dance it might have Y'all had freshman dance like not like the freshman prom Or the frosh.   Yeah, it was just for freshman Vail, okay, Vail So they don't have dances in high school anymore our dances in high school not a thing anymore I I would I would assume that dances in high school They probably cancelled them because they want to protect the kids that didn't go to dance and never got invited They want everybody to be included, right? I could assume that one day here that they're going to cancel school dances for real I could see that I could see that You know, we don't want the people that don't have dates to feel left out. We want to include everybody So it's a little it's embarrassing. I could see that right like vows. Yes. Tommy vows probably petitions to dance You know what?  They want to be included too Do you guys not see that happening in the time going forward? Am I wrong? I'm not even talking about covid like covid obviously would put a halt to it. I'm just talking about I'm talking about the vibe of the country and how soft we have gotten Yeah, that's what they want participation trophies for the prom margarita mode predeterm- vows petition for predetermined dates what like a wheel We should have a wheel that finds out who's gonna date who You know and put all the boys on a wheel and all the girls on a wheel and spin it That way we all make sure we have a fair chance to date abby We all want to get abby and you know, it's not fair that tim gets abby and I have never had a chance with abby I mean, it's possible It could be a bust out spin the bottle prom edition Abbey is cold. I will tell you every chick that was like good-looking in like middle school and high school It's kind of shot out now Just saying They peaked too early, especially like the middle school ones Like think about your middle school crush like the first chick that was like super like you thought was hot They're kind of shot out now Oh, yeah, the hot middle school girls. They hit the wall fast boys They hit the wall fast and then you can think about Some of the ugly ducklings That's not bad now, right?   See legend, you know Right. Oh, she's kind of hot now the worst bro When I was in high school, right? My main homie like one of my best friends like his girl had a friend But this girl was biggest hat like big boys like bro She made Earl look like look like he was in shape. She was big, right? But she loved me bro Right She loved me But so obviously I ignored this chick for 10 years.   Oh, you could definitely forget it That's why I had sex with big girls too Just in case Oh Kane is nasty, bro No, but for real, it's like I feel like I couldn't really I couldn't like Now I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you the end of the story. You guys can put six and four together You know But I'm just saying yeah, legend. That's what I'm saying.   No, bro.  He just here to the trial Then we're gonna see him skimbo. We're gonna see him madden madden 34. He'll be back She got the surgery Tally got jammed up. He got jammed up. Yeah He was scamming Tally was on that he was you know what tally got He's one of those guys that put the thing at the gas station for your credit card Yeah, he's one of those guys right got the little piece they put in the gas station credit card reader And he stills your credit card. He's definitely one of those guys. He'll hold 1 million percent 1 million percent Scamming for sure, bro He might be one of those two the 200 to 2000 guys too You want to turn 200 to 2000? Tally bands. I got bands. He's an ATM scammer Yo Tally, yeah, are you trying to make 2000? The cash-shap method guy The cash-shap method guy is nasty. I can't lie my whole life. I sat around like bro, they might be right They you might be right though, right?  Yo It's a scam, right? But they got to give the money to a couple people to make it look real And what makes you we think that you couldn't be one of those couple people So you could be one of the couple people because they got to give it to some people to make to further credibility Well, they ain't say credibility So sometimes you got to try him I Yo People like do rag bro. I swear to god Yo, I swear to god.   Did you who played in the madden classic this weekend? What is this? Oh, it's the wrong one Who played in the madden classic? Who played in the madden classic boys? I played in the madden classic I had a good time I'll be on I had a good time. I had a good time.  That's what I say.  It was pretty good Not mad at it. Where am I ranked? Oh two four. Look at me big six and three out here, man Big six and three Look at those 12 and three. Let's go No, but uh, so if you guys didn't know the madden classic, um, it was I believe what it said What do you think guys like 1200 people signed up? And you pretty much you go on this site and you press a button to find the game And it matches you up with one of those 1200 people And you can play for seven hours and whoever has the best record We see noa the madden challenge champ You guys know noa, of course had the best record and became number one And whoever had the best record they ranked them up up to 512 people which um, if you're any good, let's see exactly, uh You know, where is 512 and who qualified for 512 which is actually I mean pretty very It's a lot of people right 512 is how does somebody have an avatar hold up Who is this space jam? Oh, he's winning a tournament. What is this? How do you get this thing? Did you like do a profile on this shit?  I'll be honest if you're the last like Nelson is buns, bro. I'll be honest Maybe madden's not for you Nelson Tough day for Nelson.  What made them put Nelson as the last person on the list?  This is my point at what point do you go on three and say, you know what that's enough?  You're right.  Right no for real like it's the third loss in a row.    That's a lot of 0 and 3 people out here boys All in one Some people some people just had enough out the gate. Look at these guys. Yo, they had enough This is not what I thought it was right yo Yo, let me boot up for this tournament. Oh, I'm out Back to war zone right boys back to war zone Yeah, thanks. I respect the only ones better than 0 and 3. I have zero respect for the 0 and 3 You at least got to give me all four games the 0 and 1 guys Like my man sonic dragon. You think he had time to play two games of madden He saw what he had to see he played one game. He saw what he had to see I've seen enough Right He had his moment Yeah, he played Noah sonic dragon. No Noah next up. Yeah. Oh, I've seen enough I've seen enough Look at these guys, bro Now be honest 1 and 8 3 and 10 yo stick broke bro Mutt duck 0 and 6 now Now I got some questions now.  It's because 500 people joined the tournament if this if only 80 people made the tournament Oh, it wouldn't everybody wouldn't be sucking the dick of this little formatted The way it is now because I'll be honest as a man 3 and 10 is better than 0 and 6 You can't go 0 for 6 3 3 for 10. That's that's you're hitting 300 right there Right. No, you're not you're hitting like 200 because it's 3 out of 13. All right, but you know 0 and 6 Yeah, it's listen. It's easy Oh, if you listen and mutt and and Wesley, that's what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying is that Bro, if you I respect the man that goes 0 0 and 13 more than the 0 and 6 Because for you to go 0 and 6 you played for a good three four hours What the hell else you won't do bro for real Like will you not gonna play for five hours and what like this is my for these guys When's the giving up point right? I respect the man like Roscoe Roscoe, he's 2 and 9. He didn't give up. Yo stick broke bro. He yo he full sent the whole tournament So that's why I don't know how you put a guy that's 0 and 6 over a guy that's 3 and 10 Not that it matters because they shouldn't be in a tournament anyway So let's let's go. Let's get to the cutoff point Because the cutoff point is where Where shit matters right the cutoff point because The cutoff point has always been the uh The the controversial topic in madden tournaments madden qualification Whether it be top four or whether it be uh, what you can call it whether it be top 28 For me as a madden player, there was only one tough tournament to qualify for that was the madden classic in 18 When it was only 29 people that was tough to qualify for Every other tournament has been pretty much a walk in the park to qualify for, you know That's how I feel And and and the the arguments that I see everybody say it doesn't take three months to find out who's the best madden player I mean it never does it's never been hard to qualify if you're if you're if you're any bit Good it's never been hard to qualify now if you guys are out there and you haven't been able to qualify then um You know, you just gotta get a little bit better.   I am I would do that sixes to these dudes I'm probably going to struggle. No, I do have my little converter here now I have my converter so I will be good on the playstation if this thing works I will be good. I have this this thing right here It's a good. I don't know why it's pink. I don't know what it like other like It just came pink or plug it in plug in my xbox controller I will be honest.   I understand that mlb comes out on xbox boys. Thanks for being game informer My chat is game informer Five and five that's the cutoff if you want five and five you lost. That's it. Let's see who qualified over five and five I'm not mad at anybody qualifying over five and five right here Is three and two better than five and five? Yes game informer Yeah, I'm not mad at any of these records I'm more mad about the undefeated guys shouldn't be over a guy with wins for real That's what I care about really seven and six I'm not too mad at any of this I think three and two is better than five and five.   It doesn't matter Like I could play ghosts seven times. I'm still gonna go, you know four and four and still make it So it doesn't matter But if if this cut down is only 60 people making it.  They would hate it They would absolutely hate it Exactly Eduardo exactly And I I did love it. I did love playing in it And if if it was spread out for more than eight hours, maybe you wouldn't be able to get games as fast, you know it's just But it was good and as far as a 500 person single elimination tournament Everybody is listen This is how it works Everybody is oh if you fumble you lose if you turn the ball over you lose, right Right isn't isn't isn't that the first thought process you can lose so easy You could get knocked out from fluky shit, right? Isn't that the first thing everybody brings up? Isn't that the first thing people bring up, right? So for me, how about we bring up?   I'm a fan of the month leaderboard more. I don't know Honestly leaderboards don't matter unless they make it that's only the top 60 people make it or only the top 20 people make it If they continually let 128 people the shit doesn't matter Doesn't matter how they do it. That's how I feel Yeah, it could have been three out.   I could have had I could have played two hours a day There wasn't a tournament that I could not have qualified for Hey, like I said, the only one was madden 18 that madden classic was a bitch That was the one once you got into the top 20 to top 15. You didn't play anymore. You were like, I'm good I'm taking my spot Other than that, I could have qualified for every tournament with minimal effort and minimal money You know Show the xbox. I mean, it's really nothing to see dude. All right. There's nothing to look at I think everything's cool. But it was fun. It was definitely fun to play madden on twitch was popping Everybody was streaming. I think madden madden had a lot of people in it. I felt like it was dope Right boys. It was popping. It was fun The same people dense the same people would always qualify.  Listen the 500 people from the tournament I'm going to give each of you guys one player and if your player wins You win a prize Somebody might wind up with malibu. Boo Somebody might wind up with malibu. Boo. Somebody might wind up with noa. Somebody might wind up with johnny rocket.  I want nelson. Nelson is buns sonic dragon No, that would be funny. That would be funny You don't get any odds. You just win or lose. That's all Obviously if you get you're saying If you get word, you're not word. Did you qual? Did war qual war you ain't qual, man I'll be honest, bro. If y'all didn't play in this, I don't ever want to hear y'all cap about madden ever ever ever Y'all honestly can't let ever If y'all not in this tournament, yo y'all I Stop talking about madden I don't want to hear y'all. I don't want to hear y'all typing the chat about how to stop something What play to run? I don't want y'all to tell me. I don't want y'all to tell me who's open when I throw a pick I never want to see that One two raul Do we know the percentage of people using the packers? dense bro probably 85 probably 80 85 percent really But regs has always been like that. I honestly I I feel like this is how this is how People bring up the teams when they don't have anything else to talk about You know The unbalanced abilities, you know what maybe that's what they say in the nfl You know, maybe the jaguar say this is some this is unbalanced.  Why don't we have patrick mahomes? right Maybe the bears get pissed off every time they lose the erin rogers, right? Why don't we got to play erin rogers? You know what as much As much as we as much as we talk about bro the abilities have really made the best players really tough Devonte atoms is an absolute animal In previous maddens a player like devonte atoms Wouldn't be that great like in previous madden Yo valdez scantling would be better than than devonte atoms In previous maddens when I grew up mvs would be better than than devonte atoms and devonte atoms is an absolute animal in in regs right Like for real like oh shit. I got to play erin rogers Well, guess what that's how it is in regs Right And I don't really know any other cards I played the eagles one time fletcher cox was giving me cox What's happening? marquise colston right kane This is how madden has always worked has always worked with uh Now vows is talking about tyron calico a 16 year old is talking about tyron calico. Yes, vows somebody told you that yes I'm aware somebody told you about uh tyron calico Let the adults talk about this If mohomes had gunslinger nobody would use any other team Who do we believe the bust out player is trey thomas trey makes final 16 minimal minimal minimal That's my bust out player malo wins it Bro ted if mohomes had gunslinger i'm not even doing this argument I'm not i'm not even doing this argument right now I'm not if mohomes had gunslinger to be it would be 100 chiefs every game If trey wins the first game He makes final 16 The first game bro. He you know because this is what happens with trey. He'd be too horned up trey be too hype that'd be his problem. He'd be like yeah, that's my opportunity. Yeah.  I had to do that. He he to do it for my family type of guy for real Yo, my whole family is relying on me. I got to do this today is the day.      Yeah, this bro Exactly rater.  Oh, yeah, this this tournament don't have no credibility unless somebody that already has credibility No, seriously. This is how this is how it works If if if trey wins.  Oh my god Yo add it to the 200k man. He just having the most dominant year ever. That's just how it works, bro That's how mad it works.  You win this tournament.  There's a lot of questions to this There's a lot of questions Poppin was looking like clef. I think that's disrespectful to poppin mark magic The first five players in the ultimate league draft if you couldn't change the abilities The picks would be rogers would be the first pick um Then It just depends.  He's 48 years old.  There's too many variables But if it was for one season, it would be rogers brady Then it would probably be my homes. Then it would probably be like I don't even know who I think julio is probably still a monster tyree kill tyree kill would be snap pick too Um reek would definitely be top five reek would go after the quarterbacks reek would go if you couldn't get one in quarterbacks tyreek would go to the next pick McCaffrey too. McCaffrey has playmaker. Yeah Lamar would probably be up there to kyler. Yeah But uh, I don't know dude It's too many variables. If you're playing five years Uh, you could change abilities. You probably you probably wouldn't take tom brady. You know what I'm saying If you're playing one year. Yeah, you take tom brady, but if you're playing a franchise I mean derrick henry was somebody would pick derrick henry somebody like the underrated king that guy he would pick derrick henry All the windy city madden guys would pick derrick henry all right, well, listen Since all y'all had the answers that's why y'all play cfm me. I don't play cfm no more bro Is there a belt? I I I don't know Who knows bro? Have y'all heard from marco When was the last time we heard like seriously like it's no belt. No, it's just use Is it really it's 15 grand though for the winner. It's not bad It's not bad, bro. It's not bad. I'll take 15 grand I would love to make what's what's the least amount of money they pay a thousand to somebody like final 16 Oh my god, I would love to make that What do the worst for me? I I think my father is coming here tomorrow Um and then she's supposed to have her cousin and like their baby come over this weekend like All bad all bad for me It's all bad for me.  It's a difference between like people that you like don't want to be with and people that are like cool It's a different night.  Yeah, that's all But but at the end of the day, I mean we have a newborn. So that's part of the life It's part of lifestyle with the newborn baby You're gonna have people over and you're gonna have people over as some sometimes that's not the best for you My dad I haven't seen my dad though since I had my baby.  That's the dad. That's what I'm worried about. Is playstation saturday So sunday I have for sunday for xbox. That's that's where I could make some money for over. That's about it My dad is bald. Yeah He's always had like hair though. You know what I'm saying? Like he never went bald He never shaved his head. He just always had bald bald head Or he just was balding and just trans he just transitioned full transitioned They they're both there.  They're like both days How many people do you guys think play both like of the 500 people? How many do you think play both? 200 100 Probably 200 I would probably say 200 Yeah 80 I think so I would probably say maybe not 200 But at least 100 Yeah What's my favorite cover for beater? Bro, I swear you can throw anything deep against go.    I don't know who I would even put the pebble Ted Yeah, this year. I I really played honestly. I really haven't played that many people this year Really really good people. I thought we're really good dukes Jesus No, the pebble was asked this year. I played pebble. I played the pebble. I played pebble. Stop it.  I played the pebble I put hands on the pebble the pebble kind of weak this year, bro. The pebble is kind of like No, Marcus the dc tournament is not this weekend.    I would de-smoove my guy with the five gifted. Um next gen Next gen um was probably uh might be next year Kiver, I mean I will journey is probably on the list of good I've just played journey so much that it's like sometimes I will win sometimes I will lose But then when I played him in tournament, he popped me to one game But journey is journey is probably top five for short, bro A jigby is ass a man in 21 all these dudes are ass pebble pebble is not bad He just wasn't high powered. I was more ready for the pebble. You gotta understand. Some of these guys catch you sleeping, bro Like when you first played when I first played the pebble, I thought it was sweet wasn't sweet when I first played still city I thought it was sweet You know, okay dd smooth. Check it Mo over drink probably yes mo mo has a really big resume No journey is not top three eddie When I'm gonna step on ggl's field Ggl's at the ggl fell off this year. There's another group of guys that really just fell off with no running game, bro Problem is number one Then skimbo Then probably mo Then maybe drinny and kiv and joker's in there and gene, of course Earl has earl has whispered me boys earl has whispered me Do we answer do we answer?   Is he hired in little man? I don't know dude.  How do y'all get banned in skimbo stream ever? How do y'all get banned and what do y'all do to get banned in streams, bro? Like what do y'all do to get banned?  What's up, bro? I don't really be like chatting oldy Jim maya The fox y'all got banned in the den like bro, how do y'all get banned in the den? What how would y'all ever get banned in the den? You yo you guys yo to get banned in the den in the den is disgusting, bro What do you say to get banned in the den in the den to get banned in the den? You have to just come off the top rows right away.  How do you get banned? I don't understand I first of all The den isn't in madden games that often I check in the den probably two or three times a week It's not in games that often. So what is there to really troll? You can't troll the menu. You can't troll to chat I don't understand how you get banned y'all soft Y'all soft, bro. Y'all soft, bro skim bone Skimbo's pitching sucked. You say something that is pg-13 in skimbo's chat.  He's the town drunk like that. Url bands on url don't count We cannot hold that against y'all like that does not count for that doesn't count for bands for real That's like that bro Url gotta say honestly what's great about my chat now is that I don't even have to ban them somebody pays 150,000 channel points to ban them for 24 hours Like that that's how it's gotten for me, bro I don't have to do shit. I just see her play video games. I look down somebody redeemed 150,000 channel points Bye bye url. See you tomorrow. I gotta start banning more people, bro There's a lot of people in the guli. There's a lot of people in the guli manduli, boys All right, let's talk about our boss bot. Let's talk about our weekend of of bot wars Which was my most successful weekend on this, uh, twitch platform And I hope you guys all watched i'm sure and I actually if you didn't watch boss bot wars I do have the past broadcast up. I don't know how how absolutely scuffed all the sounds are in it and how muted it is Let me see. Let me take a look. I last time I looked there was 44,000 people. Yeah, 44,000 views on the Which I don't know how views work on twitch like I don't know if somebody just clicked it I don't know 44,000 people. I don't know But that's how many views I have on my recent broadcast. It's probably scuffed to life With the volume and everything I hope you guys watched it um but Now The turtle streets lul will always have an open invite now what what listen? I don't even know when bot wars 3 will be. I don't know when it'll be I don't know if we even have a bot wars 3. Who knows? I we might retire on top of the world We were top. We were number two trending topic in america on friday We got to number five trending topic in america on saturday, which is insane um, the tweeters were popping We got 5,000 viewers on a madden stream in february Um, which is comparable to ea majors this year It is it is it is 1 million percent comparable 1 million percent um So it was definitely a w we went from the first boss bot wars the mortal combat one We got 3,000 and I was super excited for 3,000 people this weekend. We got uh, we definitely got 5,000 I didn't hit any I I didn't hit any ads I didn't hit any ads as you say, you know what I'm saying? I didn't I didn't you know, we just killed it Everybody watching nobody saw any ads. Nobody saw nothing bro Now one of my new ideas As you as jesse brings up applications We are going to have video applications for boss bot wars 3 What's going on? You're gonna have to submit a video of why we want you on the show Now of the four people Of the four people lu if lu plays he's lu is lu is one of the four people Video applications, right? Now we'll figure all this out Um, if lu is here, he's one of the four people for sure Um, and I'll ask vilma if he wants to play if vilma wants to play We'll put him in one of the four for the uh prelim tournament Uh, and then then we'll have two spots of all the videos we might pick one person out of those videos Oh ea didn't let vilma join the classic Yeah vilma's in that vilma's now in the black ball territory Yeah, he said the f word Is what it is bro I've been trying to tell him bro.  He won a game.  All right We will break down all the video applications trust me yeah I honestly didn't know that uh Vilma wasn't allowed to play in the classic either So I didn't know that An international streamer trust me man. I picked the best trust me listen Don't question the judgment boys Jimiah, nobody he didn't jim I nobody knows what jim I looks like is that real No trade will never play in bot wars ever like literally dead like y'all don't understand how adamant I am about trade never being a part of bot wars It will never happen It literally will never ever happen like he let bro I'm honestly. He not even a lot. I'm honestly about to ban him from streams when it when it happens and let him back when bot wars is over Legend in bot wars I mean you bro. They said no legend. You might be too tough You might be too tough Because last time honestly legend was crazy is and the chat knows this when I started when I started going through the list When I started going through the list Vos start saying no, they're too good.  I'll play anybody salty was like. I'm salt nation Vos was like Vos was like no, they're getting too good pretty soon We'll have Wesleyan and jay wall and bot wars Drop voles hashtag drop voles damn I mean listen Bot wars is for the community man. If I hear if there's a petition if there's a petition If there's a petition If there's a real petition I like watching him lose Voles I I don't know how voles continues the because he hasn't lost Yet, he hasn't lost the lad the first game The only person that loses out of that is removed is the person that loses the first game Like earl will never be gone, bro. Like he would have to like really lose Like he would have to lose like four times in a row one time, bro And that's the beauty and honestly, that's the beauty of it We'll always get to watch salt nation and earl. You know what I'm saying? The five time That is the beauty of the that's the beauty of the format you know like Everybody in madden has some type of personality. It's just with the madden's ornaments There's been so many different people that it's hard to really not only root for people but root against people Let's be honest.  Maybe you don't have the same feelings for him salty and voles game Did salty play voles? Oh, it's about how the game was so shitty. Oh, man I'll be honest salty The real salty bro, we have to start bot wars at at noon listen It we have to start at noon. We have to because salty cannot be the real salty The timing of bot wars is holding salty back spider Yes, salty might need an air bnb or some shit, bro We do see the real salty verse little man since that game salty has been He's been on punishment Boss bot wars seven land might go nasty. That's when we'll have bot wars america when we get to 10,000 subs Bot wars america will get the bus will drive around america bot Boss bot wars seven Can we bring back little man little man is on the short list to be brought back But uh, there's a lot of potential people for boss bot wars three Um, i'm working on the video. I got a couple people helping me the best of boss bot wars two Now, what was the favorite parts now? Obviously bobby's game against uh, deliverance and bobby vs voles Those are those are probably the best games Uh, we got to get a lot of the tweets in there in the video We have to we have to go ahead and and get the tweets bg the f bomb gamble You know what i'm saying? bobby vs bg Joel getting blanked for the most part Earl vs salty is always legendary You know what i'm saying? Make the qualifier at eight man. We get a little too crazy, bro The smoke detector um like bro, it's so tough like And i want to give and i want to give i have i have two five i actually i have three files I have the the the friday night tournament, right? I have saturday night tournament. Then I have saturday night tournament with the chat Right, so the chat being in the video is awesome. I feel like the chat Enhances every video animal bird. We need it. Yes. We need to have salt like bro.   That's what i'm saying. It's not the chat doesn't decide to be like one person out You know what i'm saying? Yo, when he was like You you're not the one that has to you're not the one that has to live with it You're not the one that has to live with the smoke detector It's a lot of shit, bro Can we vote on the next theme? I don't know what the what theme I don't know what theme It's civil maze lu and vilma It's not a bad four. It's not a bad four It's not a bad four Am I ever gonna team up with commentary? I don't think I I would ever team up with commentary because one Half of the commentary is the players, right? Then another part of commentary is the tweeter And the chat I think what makes By wars is the chat is all of us for over Prelims bro prelims went nutty Lou doesn't beat Vilma Eddie. No Lou doesn't beat Vilma Prelims they were fighting for a shot. They had see you know what Eduardo the ones that you know the bots that are already locked in They're a look they're a little too they a little too, uh The boss that are already locked in there a little too comfortable, honestly, they're a little too comfortable Like the foes and the salties in them. They might be a little too comfortable Where they're at complacent. Yeah They started with a bang, but they're a little bit. They're a little bit complacent right now for real for real Tell me bro the next the next boss secret boss Since throne was the first secret boss After you get thrown as the first secret boss, then the second secret boss. I mean bro, you can go anywhere with it, bro Bro, joe got annihilated and you think he needs another shot Squads bought wars Bobby is locked. He's in he's in. Yeah, let's call mmg bro. You're right. I since throne was here. Let me dm mmg right now Let's go Sina Do what do we dm scene again? I can't lie vows earl and and salty on the same team would be nasty I think listen.  Right?     Yeah, like we I had to put the video up.   It's like bro. This game's over. Like what do you want me to tell you?    Bobby will be back for the uh For the next one We'll see we'll figure it out.  I want to be sporadic I think we're killing it the way it is for real for real Who knows? Somebody cat was deep Oh chaos a chaos secret boss I can't lie though. I think you know after chaos is um Uh madden classic clip I think he's been chill since then. Yes. That's the throne. That's what I said, bro That's though that chaos we got from the oh my gosh. That guy is not a real person, bro Bro, that's not that's not a real person now. He made it like he's too complacent. He complacent is the word He's on chills Yeah, like he he'd be on way too much chills now Hold on it. I lost a lot of respect to earl for not pausing while that kid was getting yelled at Bugs is too good for bot wars. Yeah for sure Earl beats bugs Y'all would pick bugs over earl right now In the bot wars game not in a regular game in the bright lights of bot wars Y'all would pick earl or who would y'all pick bugs or earl on a might game In the bright lights of bot wars. Y'all would pick bugs I don't know. I will be honest when I had bugs on my uh my 3v3 team I don't think we've ever lost the game really I don't think we've ever lost a game with me and bugs on when bugs was my quarterback on three on three I don't think we ever lost Bugs been moving for 72 weeks Uh Earl definitely got bot wars magic, bro.  I'll be honest. I don't know Or maybe earl lost his power because like he it was over the the emotion of winning another bot wars at a secret boss Maybe earl didn't had a secret boss about power like he didn't had a secret boss Like he didn't have the you know what I'm saying He didn't have the uh the drive to to beat the secret boss too You know what I'm saying? How about this vows?  I might make him the first game. I might make him the first game I think that's what we do vows got played for his life. He can't wait to complacent He can I'm moving bobby v over vows, bro That's what we're doing vows is the first game if he loses.  He's the first game. He loses. He's out by Yeah, he's too complacent, bro Hawk my guy with the five give the five gifted Vows is the main attraction Ted guss guss first of all cat guss you need to change the twitch to guss If vows is the main attraction, there will not be a boss bot wars three Yeah, that's Ted Ted. His name is guss Uh-oh, uh-oh speaking of bot wars Speaking of bot wars ragusa What throne call them ragusa?  He sends me is like this is not really you bro drop vows for maze Rag with the four months a legend Bro, listen Listen, you guys know I take all your ideas. I listen to your ideas, but at the end of the day Trust the ideas bro. All right boys All right boys Just trust just trust that we'll put together the best the best outcome pony Post my jones the legend. What's up, man? Ragusa, I like ragusa. Honestly I'm going back to ragusa It's a lot of options out here boys.  Oh, that's a great idea post my jones with the gifted skimbo with the bust out search the directory for some talent vows is game one forever, bro Search the directory We need a female. Yeah, that's a wait.  We need a female and boss by words.  PG 13 yo That was her name PG 13 Uh, it would get I can't lie.   No, it would it would not happen. It could not happen. It really could not happen It could not happen Oh my god, it would be nasty. It would be nasty Oh, yeah, we'd be done We'd be done Imagine if a woman beat voles Voles kind of has that like that That that womanly look right doesn't he have like Not like the like, you know, like I didn't want to say the lesbian look But you know like that, you know No, not ellen ellen a little more like i'm like a little more like You know like y'all are nasty, bro Carol from walking dead I don't know if lesbian is teal.  Thanks boys. Thanks boys. Thank you Thanks boys.   I might start coin selling facebook gaming No facebook. I thought they had the bag I thought they had the bag they didn't really have the bag Not yet at least Maybe next year Maybe next year Unbanned requests Is it time for the unbanies? Who do we even ban who got banned? Some of you guys got banned Oh, I I definitely got low balled from uh facebook gaming Yeah, I got low balled for that. Why is vos still banned bro like what? Oh, let's see if oh, we got a lot. We got 10 unbanned requests.  Somebody has 150 ready Somebody has 150 ready Somebody has 150 ready Somebody got 150 ready Miles Who is this fucker? I think I played him in mlb. I think this is mlb guy No, this was mlb guy.  I swear to god He had to he had to take a lap bro.  All right.  Johnny hot lava Johnny hot lava Vos getting busted auto promote bobby The please hate vows, bro. Is this it? We just literally put penises in here What be be anybody be being Nate bands is just unban instantly, bro If Nate man, how when did Nate ban somebody?    I don't know if ward. I don't think I don't think there's anything that ward is better Bro, honestly, I really don't is this Ward, you know Ward is hold on. Ward is the worst player on the planet Is ward the worst player on the planet? Ward, you better be ready for chat trials on warzone. That's all I'm saying You better be ready for chat trials on warzone. All I'm saying buddy Is that wardo playing tonight? Is that wardo playing tonight? Where's eddy mac at, bro? Eduardo? Yeah, warzone chat trials are back Jesse, they're back There's a new season of warzone. So me and went we we we back at chat trials, bro Once the new map whenever the new map drops were locked. We are locked We are locked All right, that boy relaxed, bro.  He came in crazy. I'm getting at least five, bro Out of let no jay gill. What but he didn't cap it that boy came in and joined like I'm getting at least five Bro, he's been a chat trials like 10 times that doesn't have five kills total Jay gill No, it wasn't jay gill's k dillon. You get the wrong person to write.  Like what something like what that Yo, and me was going nuts, bro. That dude was Turb got banned on apex. Is that why his account bro? Is that why he had to get a new account to buy clen remember the password? hold up Hold up.  Here we go. Listen, bro The thing with cheating on video games, man, I said this on upper stream um For me like listen The joy in video games is winning bro.    Like that's the joy of the game, right? And winning madden games. That's fun. Now. I don't know what your percent now Obviously my percentage winning and madden is bigger than my percentage winning and call of duty, right? Everybody has different winning percentages. Even if you're a shitter And your win percentage is you only win one game of warzone a month that one win Is worth playing every single night, right? Or if you win once a week say you win once a week once a month once a night, maybe that one win Is worth it. That's pretty much worth playing the game Right. So if you gave yourself Cheats To make it that easy Where is your joy for real like what is the point of playing if you don't have that same joy If you don't have that same joy that we all get from playing games Then are you like I don't understand why you like it really No shout con. I finally beat shout con one time with What you call it? I beat shout con with sub zero. I had to freeze them That was the only character I could beat shout con with now I was probably like the assest player like I was ass, you know what I'm saying uh, but for me, uh Shout con. I'll never forget how hype I was bro.   He wasn't shout con bro It's not even about yo, you can play for fun We all play for fun But even at like one like that just getting that one win one time is like I remember like the first time I went on fortnite, bro I was happy as shit like fortnite win Any win was just like bro. We finally got one fall guys, bro Like finally getting the little crown on fall guys, bro.    You watch twitch.