As a kid, I love to lay on my back in the grass and look up at the clouds. I would see so many crazy shapes, elephants, dinosaurs, even dragons. Climate science denialists look up at the clouds and see something even more unlikely, a challenge to the science of climate change. Unfortunately for us, it's all in their imaginations. Clouds affect the Earth's climate in many different ways, but the two most important ways are through the albedo effect and through the greenhouse effect. Albedo is a term that means how much a surface either reflects or absorbs light. In much the same way that wearing a white t-shirt will keep you cool in the summertime by reflecting sunlight, clouds reflect some of the sunlight back out to space before it can be absorbed. Thick clouds tend to have a high albedo, that is, they reflect a lot of sunlight. Putting thick white clouds between the sun and the open ocean dramatically increases the amount of sunlight that gets reflected back to space. Low thick clouds are most important for this cooling effect. By contrast, higher, thinner clouds don't reflect a lot of sunlight, but they do trap heat through the greenhouse effect. Both cloud types have a cooling albedo effect and a warming greenhouse effect, but for low clouds, the cooling effect is much stronger, and for high clouds, the warming effect is stronger. Overall, low clouds are more important, and so overall, clouds cool a lot more than they warm. But knowing how clouds affect Earth's temperature overall now doesn't tell us how clouds and their impact on climate will change as we warm the planet. If we see relatively fewer low, highly reflective clouds as we get up the ocean, we would get more warming overall. If we get relatively more low clouds, we would get less warming than we would otherwise expect. What does the available evidence tell us about how clouds will change in the future? Over the past 10 to 15 years, we've gathered enough information to be able to see how clouds change in response to changing ocean temperatures, at least over the short term. Changes in ocean temperature can occur due to natural changes in ocean cycles, such as El Nino. We can look at how these changes relate to changes in cloud cover. Overall, such changes over the past decade or so seem to point to a small warming effect, but we can't quite rule out a small cooling effect. While these studies of short-term variations are helpful for our understanding, some caution in over-interpreting their results is warranted. Longer-term temperature changes caused by greenhouse warming may affect clouds differently than short-term variations caused by El Nino. But if clouds were somehow to counteract warming, like a thermostat, this would imply that the Earth can't and hasn't warmed up very much over its history. However, we can reconstruct climate from the Earth's ancient past during hotter greenhouse periods. When we do so, we see large increases in temperature, and this rules out clouds acting like a thermostat limiting the amount of warming. Short-term observations in the present and long-term reconstructions from the past seem to be saying the same thing. Clouds won't counteract greenhouse warming. Climate models agree. On average, climate models predict a reduction in low clouds that will lead to a modest amount of additional future warming. Moreover, climate models that tend to model cloud behavior more realistically also tend to show clouds are likely to contribute more to warming in the future than models with less realistic clouds. Climate science analysts are fond of invoking cloud behavior to play down the threat of greenhouse gas emissions. They claim that as greenhouse gases increase and we start heating up, clouds will cool the Earth more, either due to an increase in low cloud cover or a reduction in high cloud cover.  But to claim that clouds will prevent serious global warming, climate science stylists rely on oversimplification. They act as though clouds only have an overall cooling effect. While the clouds do cool the Earth, this ignores the fact that they also warm, and that the total effect of clouds presently isn't the issue. What matters is how that effect changes, if at all, in the future. Climate science stylists then take this oversimplification and jump to a conclusion. They assume that because clouds cool now, and there is some uncertainty about their future behavior, that means clouds will act like a thermostat to prevent too much warming. To support their claims, they have cherry-picked data relying on information from records with known problems. Or in some cases, selectively choosing the start and end points within a larger data set to produce the opposite results that using the record as a whole would give. The assumption that clouds will save us is simply not warranted by the balance of evidence available to us. Our direct observations over the past decade or so suggest that the impact of clouds on future warming will be modest, and if anything, cloud changes are amplifying warming a bit. This agrees well with our most advanced climate models, which likewise suggest clouds won't cool us off, but modestly will increase warming. And we know from the climates of Earth's ancient past that there is no magical cloud thermostat that keeps the planet from heating up. Increased CO2 levels have repeatedly led to hotter climates over Earth's history.


EVERYBODY! She's shabba shabba Hunter doesn't need shabba shabba That's my favorite part when Amatab gets so mad EVERYBODY SHABBA SHABBA He's not really mad, but The guttural yells of SHABBA SHABBA Hey, welcome back to our Stupid Direction in Sub-Corban And you can follow us on Instagram and Tweetoo For more juicy content Follow us on our official Twitter Subscribe! And like! Thank you to Patreon for being the bomb diggity Patreon Attic Thank you You're welcome Uh... What are you doing, babe? What am I doing? How are you doing? How am I doing? I'm okay, I'm tired today Oh yeah? What'd you do last night? I didn't do anything Or who did you do last night? Heyo! Heyo It was me Anyways Today We got another video Of, you know, how we did the multi-verse This is proof of interstellar time travel in Hinduism What? Apparently, Hindus are time travelers I don't know if this just kinda has To go along with the multi-verse Or if it's actually... I literally know nothing Is it like interstellar? Is there gonna be a bookshelf? I hope so I love a good bookshelf Here we go It's a mysterious subject in science And has been the subject of debate for centuries But many believe it to be infeasible or fantasy While others disagree But is time travel really possible? Or it is just fantasy? Let's first understand What exactly is time travel The idea of time travel Is according to the fact That we can either come forward or backward in time We can go to the past And go forward into the future But is it just an idea? Or do we really have this ability to do so? There are two ways to discuss time travel Modern science and Sanatana Vedic scriptures In the first part, we look to modern science And in the second part, we look at Vedic scriptures Time travel according to modern science Some people believe that it is possible to travel back in time But the feasibility of this is unknown Forward time travel Which is travelling outside the normal sense of time Has been extensively observed And well understood Even the framework of special relativity And general relativity However, making one body advance Or delay more than a few milliseconds Compared to another body Is not feasible with current technology There is some theoretical basis For backward time travel in general relativity Such as through rotating back holes However, travelling to any specific point In space-time is a much more difficult proportion And is usually connected with quantum mechanism Or wormholes Time travel in Hinduism When studying Hindu scriptures There is evidence that suggests Time travel is possible One such classic example Is that of King Kakudami And his daughter Jeevthi Who travelled to different dimensions And returned to Earth in the future King Kakudami was a descendant Of the Sun dynasty Kakudami's daughter Reevthi Was so beautiful and so talented That when she reached marriageable age Kakudami thinking that No one on Earth was worthy of her Kakudami went to the creator himself Lord Brahma to seek his advice About a suitable husband for his daughter When they arrived Lord Brahma was listening to a music Performed by Gandharva So they waited patiently Until the performance was over Kakudami then humbly bowed Made his request and presented His list of candidates Lord Brahma laughed out loud And explained that time passes differently On different plans of existence And during the short time They waited in Brahma look to see them They spent 27 Chatur Yoke on Earth 27 Chatur Yoke means 116,640,000 human years Brahma said to Kakudami O King, all those whom you decide To accept as son-in-law in your heart Have died in the course of time 27 Chatur Yoke have already passed The ones who have already chosen Are gone as are your children Grandchildren and other descendants You can't even hear their names Therefore you must give your daughter To another husband Because now you are alone And your friends, your ministers Servants, wives, relatives Armies and treasures Have long since been swept away By the hand of time King Kakudami was surprised To hear this news Lord Brahma comforted him And said to Lord Vishnu The preserver was currently Incarnate on Earth In the form of Lord Krishna And Balram He recommended Balram As a husband for Revti Kakudami and Revti returned to Earth After only a short time away And were shocked by the changes That had taken place The environment and landscape Had changed But what was even more shocking Was the state of human culture And spiritual evolution Mankind was now at a lower level Than when they had left The Bhagwat Purana describes that They found the race of men Had become shorter Reduced in strength And enfeebled in intellect The daughter and father found Balram And proposed the marriage Since Revti came from a different time She was taller than Balram So Balram used his plow To reduce her height According to present conditions Their marriage were then duly celebrated This story is believed to be A possible indication Of ancient Hindu knowledge Of the phenomenon of time deletion Thank you so much guys for watching this video If you like it The history behind a lot of Hindu mythology Is so vast There's so much information And stories and all that kind of stuff It's not shocking that they have something In there about a possible time travel Element of it And obviously if there's In their world multiple A multiverse as well That's super, super interesting And Steph is a big sci-fi nerd Yes, so this is very interesting to me Because it's just like If they hadn't waited for The concert Yeah, the concert to end They probably could have still been Back at home with their families He could have met his grandchildren It's crazy! Yeah, it's super interesting And it all comes back to I saw somebody after we reacted to the video That said it is smart to kind of Learn about a lot of the stuff Because there's such a through line And a lot of films And the fact that like characters Are based off of certain gods But they don't specifically say that in the film And different kind of stories like that Yeah, I would say even these two that we That we've watched I feel like it helps me better understand That one movie that we've watched Yeah, because then The beginning and end make more sense Because if there's time travel And there's this multiverse and stuff Like all of these things Can be happening simultaneously Changing Yeah, it's all super interesting I wonder if any of the little Krishna's goes over the Goes over any of the multiverse Or the time travel elements In it No spoilers We'll see if Leland will sit for the other ones I don't know yet But yeah, that was super interesting If there's other such videos for us Dummies and our educational purposes In our way and other videos we can react to Please, down below


Yeah, it's reflexive whether a state can tax itself. It's a very interesting question that Tom Yamachika brings up and he is our regular contributor, co-host on talking tax with Tom, Tom Yamachika. Let's move right along here. What is this with the state taxing itself? How does that work? Well, okay, here's the deal. In this past legislative session, lawmakers passed Senate Bill 3201. And what that would have done is it would have changed the kinds of activities that are taxable for nonprofits, okay? For most of the country and for income tax purposes, the Internal Revenue Code tells us that nonprofits are normally tax exempt. I mean, if you get the proper tax exempt classification, you're exempt on almost all of your activities except those that constitute what we call an unrelated trade or business. And what that means is it's got to be a business activity, not just a one-off, but regularly carried on. And it needs to be unrelated to the purpose for which your organization was granted a tax exemption. So for example, if you have a school, you charge tuition, you can say, yeah, the tuition is a business, but it's related to the exemption that the organization has. I mean, it's a school, getting students educated is their taxes and purpose. So it's related and therefore not taxable. Now in Hawaii, GET goes by a different set of rules. And we tax nonprofits, if they have any activity, the primary purpose of which is to produce income. Okay, related or not. I think that doesn't include fundraising though. It does, that's the point. If somebody gives me $10, they help support my nonprofit fund drive, that's. That's a donation and they can get a deduction for tax purposes, you're exempt for GE purposes, except if you give that person something back, like a ticket to a dinner. In that case, it becomes a fundraising activity, not related to the nonprofit's purpose and it's 100% taxable. Okay, so I mean, as if it were a regular business. Right, so the bill would have changed it so that the nonprofit would be taxable for GE purposes only on unrelated business activity as well with some exceptions. But it would have been a great step forward for nonprofits who have been struggling with this dichotomy for years, if not decades. Okay, let me go back for a minute. This is 3201 is about for sexized tax, it's not about income tax. Right, it doesn't affect income tax. You started out with discussing the federal system and unrelated business income in the federal system. This does not affect unrelated business income or state income tax, right? That's correct, this is the same standard. Same standard, let me go back to that for a minute. So if you have unrelated business income either in the federal or the state, does that jeopardize your exemption from tax? It does if you make too much. Because- How much is too much, Tom? Well, if it's the primary purpose of your organization, then you're not entitled to exemption. But that's pretty much the, yeah, it's subjective and it's kind of the atomic bomb that the IRS can drop on an organization that it feels makes too much money. And they've tried that with the mega churches and some other organizations like EST, for example. I don't know if you remember EST, but those are organizations that come to mind. But I am aware of educational institutions that own and operate businesses like regular businesses. And that doesn't actually disqualify them from their 501C3 or whatever it is. Yeah, as long as the businesses are put in for-profit entities.  I mean, that's fine. Right, okay. So that would be taxable both federal and state. Now let's move to the gross sex tax. Before, sounds like before this bill came up or would have passed, it didn't, but if you had an event, say, and you charged people and you gave them food and all this then theoretically, you would have to pay gross sex tax on the admission fee. Yeah, the gross ticket price. The gross ticket price. It doesn't matter what the food cost. And so now this bill would have changed that. Can you give us the dimensions of the bill? I mean, what would it have done? And then we'll examine, you know, why it was introduced. Well, okay, let's say somebody gives a fundraising party at the end of the year, like let's say think tech. And a donor comes in and says, oh, hey, I wanna be a major sponsor of the event. So I'll give you $100,000, but give me 10 tickets. So I can put some people there at the celebration for you. Under the GE tax law as it's currently worded, $100,000 is subject to tax. You don't get any deduction whatsoever, even though it looks like mostly a donation. So same situation, same scenario, $100,000, but no free ticket. Yeah, if the donor gets nothing in exchange, then there's a different exemption that kicks in and says it's a donation. Donations aren't income and not some tax. Yeah, so a donor is always wanna, the donor is going to want, and don't need for that matter, is going to want to make it clear that there's no consideration passing back to the donor. Yeah, that's current law, that's not changed by this bill. But it's those situations where you have like a ticket price that's disproportionate to what the donor gets back in return, those are the things that would be changed. Right now it really doesn't matter what the donor gets in return for the ticket as long as it's something, then it's not a donation. Okay, that could be very unfair in the sense that, would you say 10 tickets for $100,000 would make the whole thing subject to tax? Even under, well, under existing law, that just seems inequitable, doesn't it? Yeah, and that's one of the reasons why this bill was introduced. Now, as it went through the legislative process, okay, everybody, everybody kind of thought it was a good idea, legislators thought it was a good idea, the charities thought it was a good idea, even the department thought, oh, we're not gonna oppose it, we're just gonna give some comments on it. And it went all the way to the end. Okay, then stuff happened. The tax director who cured of four had not been kind of significantly in the loop on this, he took a look at it and says, what is, what's going on with this thing? And that's when the fund started. So- Can I stop you there for a minute? Where does this thing come from? I mean, it's a tax bill, all tax bills have all these technical implications. It never really stands alone, it always has an implication on state revenue and where it's reported elsewhere and so forth. Doesn't the tax office look at these bills at the time they're introduced? Doesn't the tax office introduce these bills? Doesn't the legislator who submits the bill confer with the tax office, see if it's a legitimate positive change in some way? Yeah, they don't have to. They don't, I guess. They typically don't, they wait for the tax environment to testify in the bill. Okay, so who submitted it? I guess it was not the tax office. It wasn't the tax office. All right. I mean, what interest group would have submitted it? The nonprofits? The nonprofits, I would imagine. Yeah. Okay, so I interrupted you, go on, please continue. Okay, sure. So we get to the end of session and the tax director kind of gets excited over this bill because he's kind of thinking, well, how does this fucker work? And then he starts getting people involved for, in my own mind, spurious reasons. So what the bill contained was language that said that if, you know, that there are some get out of free cards in the internal revenue code. It says if you earn certain types of income, then it won't be considered unrelated business taxable income, even though it might be, you know, regular and continuous, like if you get rents or if you get to capital gains, because there are some get out of jail free cards in what we call 512B. Let's say we really don't care about the underlying business that got you this rent or this interest or capital gains. We're gonna say it's not unrelated business taxable income. Okay. And for GE purposes, we didn't adopt those. So we had a proviso that says that these 512B get out of jail free cards don't apply. And so somebody at the tax office kind of thought about that and said, well, okay, that means that anything that's in the get out of jail free provisions is automatically taxed, which is not what it says. Okay. But there was an understanding that, okay, I mean, there are some charitable organizations that do make a lot of money off of rents. And we have some, you know, very large land trusts, for example, and they didn't wanna change that because that would distort the revenue picture. I mean, it would cost too much. And so this is where the question, you know, whether the state tax itself rears its ugly head. So the tax office then went to the University of Hawaii and they said, look, in 512B, there are these get out of jail free cards for research grants. This bill is gonna make those taxable. Is that what you want? And of course, you said, no, no, no, no, we don't want that. This is okay then. Recommend veto of this bill and they did. But it wasn't true. Yeah, I think it's not true for several reasons. Number one, governments don't pay taxes. Tax payers pay taxes. What sense would there be? Are you saying that the University of Hawaii is government? Yeah, it's a government, isn't it? It's a government agency. I think that should be, you know, a basic understanding of all of us. It's not separate from government. The University of Hawaii is a government agency. And that has implications all across the board and so many things. What about other institutions? What about private colleges? They're not government agencies then. That's right, they're not. But DOE and its public schools are and there is some guidance from the Department of Tax saying, and I guess they were asked about fundraisers being carried on by school groups, classes, PTAs and stuff like that. And they said that, oh, the DOE and its public schools are not considered taxable entities for GET purposes. So, you know, if it's another entity that's conducting this fundraising like the PTA, for example, then yeah, there may be some tax implications, but if it's the school itself, no. Okay, and the question that I wanted to put is, all right, what's so different between K-12 public schools and the university? They're institutions of higher learning. They're state agencies. So if the department's saying that the schools are all exempt from tax, why is the university exposed to any kind of tax at all? Right. As you just said, there's no difference. They're both government agencies. Could there be any legitimate distinction?  And that led to Senate Bill 321 being placed on the intent to veto a list. And then now, as we found out just a couple of days ago, it did get vetoed. How do you know this was the reason it got placed on the veto list and was vetoed? I mean, is this stated in the veto list? No, no, I had some inside information. Okay, well, it seems to me that, I would like to know that too. I would like to know if the governor and the people who are trying to influence him are wrong about their interpretation and a state agency is wrong about their interpretation of the existing state law. Do you think the veto list, do you give his reasons or do you express who is asking?  That's pretty vague. And then the actual veto message kind of said, well, and it's gonna cost a lot. It's gonna cost basically three and a half million dollars a year in revenues. Is that a legitimate reason to veto this bill that would forgive non-profits a certain amount of gross excess tax? Well, that's debatable.  Some have more revenue cost than others. Anytime you enact an exemption, it has a revenue cost. Let's go back to the bill itself.  We care about these things because we know how hard it is, especially in this environment, to raise funds. I include COVID, I include, you know, the economy in general, and I include those things that are undermining our society these days. It's hard to raise funds. And so non-profits do a lot of work that the government would otherwise have to do itself. Or that the government cannot do itself and can only be done by non-profits. I mean, the government, for example, is not gonna have a tax foundation like yours. And I'm not sure the government would ever have in organization like ThinkTech, a media organization. So these organizations and lots of other non-profits, including social safety net non-profits, perform valuable services in our community. We need to keep them alive. We need to incentivize contributions. Therefore, it seems to me that this bill was a good idea, three and a half million dollar reduction in collections or not. And, you know, tax is all of our priorities, right? You wanna prioritize a public policy point on this and maybe not on that. And so you can't just make a flat tax. You have to think about what the state as a matter of public policy wants to do. And clearly what it should be wanting to do is incentivize non-profits who do important work in our communities. Well, I mean, that's the reason why non-profits get its tax exemption in the first place. But the problem over the years has been that, you know, most of the people who are Shanghai into performing financial work for non-profit organizations. And I say Shanghai because most of them just don't do that voluntarily. They need to be asked. A lot of them come from backgrounds where they know what the federal tax law says but they have no idea what GE law says for non-profits. I mean, it's kind of, you know, unrelated business income is a concept that's taught in school, okay? You learned in accounting school, you learned in law school. If you take tax classes, you know, stuff like that. But GE, not a chance, okay? I mean, that is something that is kind of too specific. When you're in Hawaii, you either need to find out about it through your own research or you find out about it the hard way defending an audit. Well, GE is draconian. I mean, George Freitas spent his career at the tax office crying to expand the gross exercise tax into everything and he succeeded. It's plenary. It covers everything you can think of. There are really no significant exemptions. It's all over the economy. And other states which have, you know, similar taxes, designated sales taxes have all kinds of exemptions and deductions and you know, try to make it more just, if you will. Our gross exercise tax is not just and it's regressive and come to find that, you know, the rules of application are different for the gross exercise tax as they would be for the federal unrelated business income standard. It's troubling and there should be reform, don't you think? This was a reform, right? Yeah, it was an attempted reform. But it failed. But it failed. So my question to you is, is this gonna come back? Will there be, should there be other reforms in the gross exercise tax? Should there be exemptions? You know, like we talked about for years for drugs and the like. That actually affect the disadvantaged people, the lower economic groups, lower income groups. So it's not so regressive. We need the reform but is there an appetite for reform? It doesn't sound like it. No, no, well, I don't think so. I mean, I think one of the problems is that the way our GET works, it's so different from how it works in every other state that people get confused and, you know, they leave themselves wide open for the Department of Tax to come in and do it, gotcha. Okay. Which is exactly what happens. That's absolutely right. And so I think there should be, you know, greater efforts to achieve a greater understanding with the public about what this sucker does, how it acts. And that way, I think at least it'll be more fair in that, you know, with people knowing, you know, how it works and guessing in the appropriate circumstances would be right most of the time. Then, you know, you have, you know, less of a chance for the gotcha moments and the instances where the tax could get really unfair. Now, I do think that GET is more fair than a sales tax in that if you wanna spread the cost of doing business, you have all the businesses participate, not just the retail stores who sell tangible personal property. Why do you let one sector or another skate as the case in most states? Most states completely exempt the service sector. But... You're right, there's no good distinction for that. Yeah. It's retail revenue, whether you're selling widgets or services, yep. Yeah. So in that event or in that manner, I think the GET is like perversely more fair. It's regressive, yes. But that's one reason why we can keep it at like 4% or 4.5% as opposed to like 9% in the state like California. Let me just ask about that half percent. You know, back in the lingual days, somehow that got adopted point, what is it, 712 additional percent on gross excise. So in the old days, when things were simpler, you paid 4%. Yeah, it was 4.167. Yeah, to cover the... Cover the tax on the tax. Tax on the tax. I love when they have tax on the tax. But now it's not that anymore, it's 4.0712. And I thought that was kind of like for a period of time, not forever. Can you give us a little thumbnail about what happened there and why it's still in place? Because of rail. I mean, the half percent surcharge was a means to get more money to the Honolulu rail project. And that happened, I think, in 2006, 2007. And it's kind of been there ever since. I mean, a lot of things start off as a good idea with a temporary duration, but it gets extended and extended and extended. Like, the transient accommodations tax was originally enacted at 5% to build a convention center. Well, now our convention center is built and our transient accommodations tax is at 10.25%. Plus 3% more for the county surcharges on it. So, I mean, things just have a way of spiraling out of control. And I think that that's what happened to the half percent when it first got adopted. The other counties were saying, well, we should have this right too. And the constitution, I think, does say that. Initially, most of the counties wanted hands off and they didn't think that adopting half percent in their respective counties would do them any good, but they kind of got into the realization that they had to do that to stay alive economically. And so they did. Why if the county needed the money, why don't they just raise the real property tax? That's a very good question. But it seems that property taxes, are visible and associated with the counties. So if they did that, the voters would know who to boot. With the GE tax, there's a little bit more confusion and a little bit more, I think, deniability. Yeah, if you can slip it by the taxpayer, then it's a great source of additional funds, I guess. And that's what it is. It's confusion, as you've said. The other thing is that, in the case of Act 221 and many other incentive provisions legislature has adopted, there were, and there are specific sunset date. But there's no sunset date on that half percent, is there? There is. When is it? I think it's, now it's up to, I think, 2033. That's 11 years from now, Tom. Yeah, it was supposed to be, I think, this year or next year, but it got extended a few times. Okay. So the Tax Foundation of Hawaii looks at all these things. And I mean, you're talking about things that really do need to be rationalized and reformed. So you're not just interested in reducing taxes, for that matter, in making sure that the spending of the money is legitimate and fair and rational and all that. You're interested in looking at the whole system then. Give me your mission on that. Our mission is to help people create a rational and fair tax system. And we have different criteria on our website that we used to evaluate this, like the proportionality of burden, the regressivity, for example, transparency. Are you able to do that? Because you don't actually submit bills. That I know of. Who is submitting bills that seek reform? I mean, everybody is self-interested. And if there's nobody who comes by and says, oh, this is really wrong. This is unfair. This is disproportionate. This is regressive. We can't do this. What an interest group, what organization submits bills to do that? It's a very good question. I don't think there is one. So that's, and yeah, I mean, you have incentive proposals being put forth by lawmakers. You have increased proposals being put forth by lawmakers. You have, once in a while, some technical reform proposals being put up by the department, but it's usually ways to spread the pain rather than relieve people of it. You know, to circle back to our original discussion, Tom, the general rule is, the two general rules is no man or woman's life and property is safe while the legislature is in session. But that's kind of a joke. We do need them to consider public policy and to adopt reasonable, helpful, community beneficial legislation. The other rule is the taxes never go down. They go up, but they never, ever go down. And yet here we are on talking tax with Tom and we find this bill 3201, which effectively does, it does reduce and reform the gross exercise as it applies to non-profits, which as we have discussed is a valuable statement of priority and public policy. And yet this bill fails. Where do you put that in the general rule, the taxes never go down. This one would have reduced tax, at least on some taxpayers, ostensible taxpayers, nonprofit taxpayers, but it was vetoed. Where are we on this? Where are we on reform and rational inquiry into our tax system? Well, I don't know if we have any, you know? I mean, we have tax provisions that are supposed to be reviewed. We have reports coming out. We have our elected politicians looking at this stuff with at least some degree of understanding. They probably should give a little bit more time to understanding this stuff more because that's really what helps feed the engine. Of course the engine, the engine is the financial engine. It's the fiscal engine that you and I talk about, the ability to pay bills and all that. And I think, you know, if you take a look at it over the last 20 years, what you don't see is an improvement of the engine by diversifying the economy, by incentivizing new businesses and all that. We haven't really spent time or legislative effort doing that.  If I give you a reform bill and I say, we are going to make this rational, we are going to reform parts of it, which we don't consider fair or appropriate to raise money. We're gonna have a comprehensive view of our tax system. What I do is I engender public confidence. The veto of this bill, 3201, at least to me does not engender public confidence. Where are we going on public confidence, Tom? Yeah, that's a very good point, Jay. This bill obviously got scuttled in back room dealings after the legislature had finished after the chance to submit public input had come and gone. We need to do better. Yeah, we need to do better. And the remarkable thing, as you discussed early on in the show is that the basis on which the bill was scuttled was wrong. It was a mistake. It was a mistake as in the interpretation of the existing law. So there you have it. What an interesting discussion. What an interesting scenario. Thank you very much, Tom. Tom Yamachika, president of the Tax Foundation of Hawaii, here on Talking Tax with Tom. Thanks so much. Aloha. Thank you so much for watching Think Tech Hawaii. 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Hey everyone shaver 1000 here today, we're gonna watch the Corvette. I usually don't do these washing videos I've had a couple requests They'd like to see me wash it and I was like, I don't You know, I just don't get in that but a lot of people like that So I wasn't gonna do it But then I got an I got an email here a couple weeks ago from somebody and it was really polite And they must watch my channel because I'd mentioned it a couple times in passing So they must watch it and they said look I know I know you you don't like. Oh, sorry. I know you don't like to Do the washing videos, but you know my opinion I think it'd be cool to to You know film that you know of you washing the vet and They said I understand if you don't want to know hard feelings. I just think it'd be cool So there was really polite about it. So, you know, I figured well All right, you know at least one person wants to see it. So anyway, there you go I sped it up and so it's not quite as boring but a lot man That seems what a lot of these guys like the will it run videos, you know, they get it They tow it home to get it running then the next one you see is them washing it To me, it's boring, but a lot of people like them videos and they get good views on them. So Some of you guys must like it. So I figured all right, you know This person, you know, it was really polite and said, you know, like I said, if If it's an inconvenience or whatever, don't worry about it. No hard feelings. I understand but so You know out of some requests, you know, there you go we're going to go out here and Get started on this thing I Want to use a pressure washer get some of it off but I'll probably end up washing it by hand because You know that pressure washer is not that great But I'll rinse it off with a pressure washer. It will take some stuff off I'm sure last time we washed it. We just went over it with kind of with the sponge and soapy water It wasn't that great of a job. So We'll see how much paint stays on after I pressure wash it According to he's painted bad, but like I said, you know, it's it's a project. It's never a Project or it's never complete. It's never done If it is it's sold But it's been in the family for 27 years, you know her mom dad bought that 27 years ago. So Let's keep it going. All right guys. Let's get into this guys. So there it is washed up top down Once you'll clean. I think the battery went dead on that There's some paint work to do that don't match that There's a lot of you can see some paint There and there that came off the underside of the headlights, you know the mirror You know take them off and respray them This back has been redone, but it needs to be done again. This is some cracking there. We'll have to do some gel coat This is I think this parts metal. It needs to be re re sprayed eventually.  There's the car Corvette all washed up looking nice and pretty You know for a 1990 Yeah, that's pretty cool Taking a still shot here. Yeah pretty car We get a buffed out of the look a lot better to monkeys having a yard sale again Over there So there it is Yeah, the old girl needs some TLC, but you gotta get the interior cleaned out and the sun Getting to that thing so I have to recover that daze or something just some Extra parts there that need to go back into the house need to interior cleaned up Just a bunch of minor stuff now next major thing is we got to get tires for it and We're the reverse gear is going out it's goes in and out of gear so I Think they put three transmissions in this all the same problem 700 or four Goes flying forward all the gears forward reverse Kind of does its own thing. I got a policy wheels up Them all polished up when I get the new tires So yeah pretty good looking car. So there you guys go First wash in what like two and a half years. So we washed it once as it came out I don't know when it was washed before that, but we just did a kind of a quick thing on it, but So I took my time today really Got in there and scrubbed it real good Got a boost gauge there Not sure what the other one is But yeah, so there you go Looking pretty nice All right guys. Thanks for watching appreciate it. She better than met the man legend going for now We'll see you guys in the next one. Bye. Bye and take care All right Well my work's done now. It's time to watch my favorite movie a lot of people's favorite movie Get copyrighted for this Street, how could I ever forget it?  Lovely glorious beautiful Christmas Around which the entire year revolved


Welcome to the April 18th work I've been doing in the assembly. We're here as we try to promote works. It's work by our time street. It's not too clean. So I'm going to give us an example of some delicious food. Thank you so much. This is very fantastic on the menu, but it's delicious. It looks like 2000 rice and veggies and tofu and egg rolls and chicken. Lots of good food. So we're going to start in just a moment with our public forum. Well, this is an information first. We go to the next slide, please. So our guiding principles here in More Advice is this is a safe space you want to provide a lot of decorum. You want to be accessible from the rich, very interpretive space and engage with all the living numbers. This is a respectful space where we respect all the differences and engage with each perspective. Easy. We also want to be relevant for making fun as always with feedback on how we can do that better. Please let us know. And you're going to notice that we do not say so. It's one of the candidates. Today is an exciting day. We are giving an answer. Yeah. We are going to elect a new steering committee. We'll say more about that in a little bit after the public forum and announcement. But our current previous members are Roger, who's not here with us tonight. We're going to have Joe, and I'm Leigha, and I'm going to bring the food in the dining room, and Terry, and Jason. So we'll go here more from some of us later. And then, if you ever want to find us online, we'll go to our website npa5.org. And then we have a site on the bridge and the website that is broken one, brokenbt.org, and npa5. It's under 12-tell over here. We're going to have a set of 10, and Terry on camera. Here are live streaming. Thank you for telling me to read. If you watch now, we'll see you later on in June. And if you've been ready to talk all of the series with your members at borderline.npa.org, btd.brooksandbox.com. It's an article. Okay, we're ready for the next one. Now, sir, if anything, sir, I'm assuming that if we do, what do you think you might start to create a swap with you? And I will always try to keep an eye on streaming, and I'm just going to do this. I don't know what you're going to say. Okay, actually, you're going to have that. Um, here's our review. Here's our agenda. This is the welcome and the opening. We're going to do a teleform in the symbolist. Anyone is welcome to participate. We're going to hear a bit about a lot of the types of surveys and some of the different public works. And then one of the things we're going to do is do a this-is-a-fun workshop. Projects to play a part in a way that's more fun to work on. Okay, public forum. Here we go. So again, anyone is welcome to participate. You can identify yourself. We're basically going to do a public sharing. We're actually going to do a public organization, or I think we could stream that as well. We will keep an eye on the time, so that everyone has a chance to speak. Um, if you're saying something really interesting, you might want to go over a few minutes. Um, but we'll see. All right. Hang on to the public forum. Yes? Okay, thank you very much. You're welcome. Thanks. Okay, so the only, uh, we're going to come to the final event of this last month. And for what that is, we're going to be able to navigate to one of the more talented, since last month. We're sending you kind of a final agreement for an album, perhaps the majority, in the building. We're going to have a few comments on various things, 60, 60, and 90. We don't think that's going to be sufficient to solve the problem, but I think that's fine. Um, we also present a DHA for the list of questions that we want to be happy with. Probably very popular online. Going into this new project, we're going to have a lot of answers to come to the front of the panel. Um, and so we did a little work, and we just looked at the things that we've done before, and I don't know if you can understand, but how the people that I've met have been sending me exactly the technical and the things that I've been wanting to botch and find to cover volunteers. So I guess somebody broke my thinking about liability. It's coming down, and as you have it, it's coming down. It's coming down. It's coming down. It's coming down. And it's coming down. It's coming down. It's coming down. It's coming down. It's coming down. It's coming down. It's coming down. So John, So that kind of world we're at. So we are, we don't have the only invitation for anyone who wants to come, and we'll make sure that we can coordinate that for the native pattern, and make sure that, you know, we have the origin, the state, the visit, a lot of them just get up there and be excited about it. And certainly, we'll be able to get them just a couple of times. That is our rule of practice. Right. We see a lot more years. Right. Thank you. Before I can. Hi, my name is Andy Simon. I'm a part of a group called friends of ours. I'm a local volunteer to work to. I'm a volunteer to work with friends of ours. Friends of ours. that state and it should encourage the city to do that if I don't face the crisis possible. One of the things that we've been doing is the balance of that state and one of the ways we can do that is on green up data, which this year is made for the gathering of people and I'll speed it up a little bit because we've shipped tons of garbage left over from the people who've been living there on how to do it. We're living there on natural stuff, various things and each year there's less garbage but there's still a lot to do. So we need a crew. We all have work-off for people but it's a condition where long-term employees and I have other stuff out there. And it's a race and water exchange. And on nine o'clock there's one o'clock in the afternoon and it's great times. There's going to be people from all over the community and these individuals. I'm going to make a quick observation of the eclipse. I don't know if everybody remembers this. Everybody kind of has their own experience with doing it but it's really awesome. One thing that I don't know if everybody knows explicitly was how white and enjoyable the city was on that day. I was first on the day of the eclipse. It was the most magical day in the city in the past 12 years. Even the amount of visitors that we had that day with the shrink closures and the way that the city canceled that. The lack of our downtown was so great. There were so many people walking and biking. There were so many people enjoying the thing. We still managed to handle so many people coming into our city and leaving our city. The highways were obviously slowing down and blocked. That's kind of like the thing just to point out that our city had so many people coming in and it was the cars, the car and the structure of the highways. It wasn't our downtown. It wasn't our city. It wasn't our amenities. I don't know if anybody else can understand explicitly but I just wanted to call attention to how well the city canceled that, how beautiful that day was, and how maybe we should consider how we as a community can ask for more of that all. That's a month? Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Before every day. Alright. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Call it. So I'm in traffic. I'm actually coming for a two. And so I work for a CCTB, and I'm going to see this all the time to get used. So my assignment for the eclipse. It's pretty, What do you think of the eclipse of the world? And instantaneously, so I spoke to hundreds of people, but I said that to hundreds of people over a six-hour period. And I was just overwhelmed with the number of people who said, Instantaneously started talking about how wonderful world is, wonderful from life. And it was such a great experience for me. You know, that's why I just want to share it with people. And people come here from other averages and visit. Everybody thinks that loneliness is a wonderful place in the world. And I think we lose track of that because we've been here. And so I've only seen you, we've seen conflicts and a lot of social media stuff. They exist as a whole. So I think we lose track of that kind of a very fortunate thing here. And for others to depend on. So hundreds of people, as soon as I said, the most important things people need on the side of saying a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful life. So I just wanted to share. Thank you. Anyone else? Well, let's call it out. I will go. I'm going to say this. Are you going to go? We'll get there in a second. Okay. Oh, yeah. Well, I was going to say. You're on. Okay. Um, hi. I just want to share about two. Community. They're available for everyone. Hopefully are useful. One is the map of free food in Burlington. Um, this one is on two sides. It's like this. Places you can get free vegetables, free family items and free meals. Provided by nonprofits and volunteers and churches. This map lives at tinyurl.com. There's an online version of it all of the time. Anyone can edit it with you. Enjoy. At tinyurl.com. Side. Free. Community. And then the other thing is. I haven't heard of people that recently launched an outlet from Burlington. I don't have an iPhone. I don't have an iPhone. I don't have an iPhone. I don't have an iPhone. I don't have an iPhone. I don't have an iPhone. And we are hoping to cover what's behind City Hall within the administration to share some new ideas about what could happen in our city and analyze what is happening if you're interested in reading, please visit Burlington Island or start Mirin Do Ed and know that. That word. We encourage you to bebnd writing or joining the elected one for doing this reporting. Please get in touch with us at internet center So I thought returning to the public. I am not the president. The year. So I just wanted to count on this as well. So there I did have a couple of pictures of the speakers sitting out there. I did not take these pictures of the public for seven days. I'm not even. But. And then we're going to kind of from the city's case that. And I just wanted to kind of be thankful for all the work that was done. I mean, all of it. There were going to be a city. We're kind of giving up to this.  Of course, all of us faces and who's worked out down. I mean, I kind of knew all the stuff not on board. And the public sort of city project with the cloud bridge.  So that was a big hit. Show them basically the kind of what we would see with your folks classes. If you'd like to fit down with the white. It's kind of practical. The whole hour or two. Partially. For them to give to us. Well, it's like, I don't know, 300 or something. Most of which probably most of which we tend to have. So. Really thankful for that. It was good. A lot of us. Okay. I have something to say. I said, I would. What's there is. And I go for the. I was in the sunspot, which was the best, the. There's like the sun. That's not going on to me. But at first guy at the steering committee. City said, you know, there's a fire. Bring it anywhere you want to. And I thought, this is the way it is. I didn't even know how to figure this thing out. Well, personally, the families kind of visited us. And there was some of these very confident in these kinds of matters. We took it as kind of connected together. And I thought, well, I'd better bring it over to Riley here. I'm sure nobody's going to take a look at it. Well, it was a big hit. I was like, look at it. I'm going to be saying it. I'm going to show everybody. And I posted it there when I see the goods classes on the Don't Watch One. The number of people reached out to me to get these goods classes. That's the city data to be updated. And then I brought the box over to Colligan Park. And people just grabbed and went up. And so many of them were taken. And then at the end of the eclipse, everybody used the same box as a recycling site. So I brought back more boxes than I came with. And I was waiting for that. We have a specific data to be able to get that process back. But it was a really well-ordered event. I think I can get out of that. I'm glad we got that. There's more. Okay. Any final comments, thoughts, or comments for us? Is it helpful to see that people who are out and out for not seeing them, maybe, but to be there to put them in? One person. Oh, just one person. You're here. All right. All right. If you can log into the Zoom, then I can promote you to panelists and you can present them. Or if Joe does join Zoom and presents them either way. You just need to be slightly slower, but you're going to sell me. I'm going to try to say, um, again, I just wrote you on this word. Yeah. Can I hear you again? I think I'm just going to try to pick the last letter. I can't, I'm going to wait a second. I think that's the highest difference. That's your hand. Hold on, I need to get a mic. So, if you have a poorly focused on one time in your life, a poorly designed one, it's going to be a big hit across. A rash of good luck. All right, one more, Joe. Can you do that? No. Very nice. What you call a priestly on a plant? An air fryer. Well, I guess, we also have some in Canada, there's a copy of the informal water quality report from 2022. That's amazing. It has kind of been. I can get it. Water quality is great. Oh, that's great. Thank you. Thank you. I haven't received it yet, so it might take a moment. Which is very relevant. And then the other one is the pamphlet that explains a little bit more about water. Yeah. There's a lot of testing. Yeah. And then the water is sampled as it comes out of the lake, as it is treated through the plant, and then as it leaves the plant on the sample, very frequently. A lot of results are available in the water quality report. And then there was a sampling that Eleanor was talking about. I have them up now. We are here talking about water quality in our drinking water. So this is just for a little bit of background. This is for the letting property rules. Physically, so a little bit of history. The concept of folks who became aware of being affected by the exposure to drinking water of the 1980s. The same drinking water act, the Spongebob land, was amended in 1986 to bring in the use of a lot of things to our water system. And what it didn't do is retroactively require all the clothing and water for new things to stick with from their instructor. In 1991, the ECS, the Environmental Protection Agency, established the letting proper rules to protect the public health and reduce the exposure to blood and proper drinking water. So what that little primary does is it establishes maximum contaminant levels to support blood and proper drinking water. And if our standards are the same, what those levels are, and if it also requires our ability to commit treatment at me, it's more than 10% of the examples are not one. So this is right here in general. We've always been ahead of the curve. So in 1902, we already started conducting sampling. Well, I sort of did a plan of practice to give you that lead, proper, iron, safe and cadmium levels in our water. And so in 1982, at six sites, had elevated blood levels. But how will the sampling size for those six sites? Oh, between 30 and 40, yeah. Yeah, between the 30 and 40, about six of them had elevated blood levels when immediately sampled at the tap. And what that means is they sampled, they turned on the tap and it's like immediately sampled the water. Whereas normally you also like wait for the task to go on for a few minutes to sample again. So when they did that in 1982, six sites elevated blood levels. And it's important to know that some of the Lake Champlain, which is where we get our water from, is naturally soft. So it's blown developed minerals, and it has a neutral pH. And what that means is it's kind of corrosive to our rights. So sometimes the water is soft, it can sort of leak, it can pull out the levels. If you don't do anything to it. So we started adding sodium hydroxide to prevent corrosion in 1984. And we upgraded to using zinc or phosphate in 1998. And so what that does is it sort of floats the inside of the pipe so that the water doesn't breach. That's it. And since then we've been able to let it not close in three years. And then it's starting to have varying emissions. So for the rest of the time, that was talking about those overalls. And what is important to know is that since we started treating our water with zinc or phosphate in 1990, we've always been complex. So yeah. So now what we're doing here is we're going through one line of problem number three. So, yeah, I'm sure that you have all the third of children from Michigan, which took picked up and asked them to support the water, public talks, and drinking water. So following that, today is the rule of revision to prevent children from drinking. So, and so the point of that rule is to remove all significant, which is the blood of our drinking water system. So I said, the, the best of everything I've been left from the place, but it is important to talk to you about that. So what this will is, you know, anything to do with the action of moving those sources of blood from the drinking water system. So as part of this rule, all local state and water utilities have to develop and submit inferences of a service line, which is, you know, which I don't understand that get the water to your house from the water main. Identifying led service lines to be replaced as well as galvanized line meeting placement by October 16 of this year. And in terms of a little bit of background, we're going to get about Burlington. So, in April to 1929 to 1937, lists the kind of a price that we have in our system and out galvanized half iron and life. The reports from 1938 onwards, no longer mentioned blood as a type of material analysis. So we have no records or evidence of our different service lines ever like a part of the interview. We are still required to submit an inventory, which is yet. It's, you know, what those numbers look like for us. So here we have 1111,000 service lines. And so we have some records for, I said, around 7 to 8,000. You have records for most of the 1111. Yes. And we looked at what these numbers are going to be so far. Yeah. Right. The service lines. The ones that are going to be in control for instance. Yes. Yes. And so we still have, we have about 3,000 unknown lines that we say we've identified. And also we just need to kind of keep our, but should we review the record, whether it's the 7,000 or 95, but we are coming to the point of one. And so what we're doing is we are doing a thorough record review of everything that we have. To me to confirm it, we're also asking the customers that we look at their own lines. And we should enter a survey that is online to see if you know what material that type is going to look like. And lastly, we have input and inspections for anybody who, for some reason, can't complete the survey or is having a difficulty. So we're going to finalize that in November of 2023. We began on a digital outreach to the public. We were starting to get out through Comfort Forum. I'm going to make it on our websites. And then in December, these processes, the ideal process from December to June, we're looking to reach out to reference to very properties and older phones, phones that do not have records to identify those materials for their service lines. We're also in parallel going through all of the records that we have in file, which is, there are many of them taking us by some time, but we're getting to a good base. In parallel, we are looking at records. We're reaching out to residents. I think that's one of my ones. Somebody or just anybody who's in one of our things, water and sand. And to try to get as much information as we can from the public to help our important process. Kind of going, as we're getting information, looking finally at our responses, we're doing them directly into the spreadsheet, which was provided to us by the state of Vermont. We're going to submit it to the state of Vermont in October. During the whole process, as we find the information that we need to seek, we're going to reach directly out to those homeowners. If they don't get back to us, we plan to go around neighborhoods. And you're not going to say, hey, we're coming into the country again or there. We're planning to knock on doors and expect somebody from water resources division in the right level of us to ask any of these people, which I know this can be a test for people. So we're trying to get a lot of help out of each of the four people that we are going to meet up and try to get the information that we don't have with that start-up outreach. And then in October, we're going to submit the inventory. And then almost after October, we're going to continue to fill out all of the unknowing information that exists. We are allowed to submit unknowing information to the state of California, and we prefer not to, because if we do submit unknowing information to the state of California, we have to identify 10% and we have to seek them as if they are led. We really do not believe them to be led. We must treat them as such and inform the total owner that it is possible to take out a certain sign very unlikely, again, and can't oversee the confidence we have in each of the very likely ones like this. But we do need to keep at it until we have all known certain signs. So the communications that you're going to make the same for us, back in November, you receive Waterville and the mail, and you receive an on-trap newsletter, which is a really never-ending piece by responders. That's the information about them. We also mail postcards to every address in the city, as well as to every property owner who doesn't live in the room, to know that it goes far as to wherever they live. So we can use that when we go out on social media and in front of our forums. We have a survey forum on our website. We have a how-to-do-die-in-the-witch-to-things-in-the-new-comers. We have three telecast questions on our website. We have all of these materials in multiple languages, so you or somebody that you know speaks a language front-end that is not English. This information is available to you. We do have also partners in regards to the language front-end, so that we're all on the same page. We have an archival forum, and we can talk to you if you want to hear about our project. And we also plan to work with PPM, the Mets Center, which is actually been very responsive and large schools. So PPM, the next weekend, we'll actually be following it. This is sort of the school district to get the information from those large buildings. And then as all of these, the water resources that the customer can use, wonderful people are always available in the process. The figure that's come up recently is 70% as well as friends and family. Who have the responsibility to participate in your own friends' experience away? I'm going to have to see if you can do this in the next call. I'm going to go through this part of your moving. Not for friends. It's a ramblin' of responses, so when we first talk to each other, I think this is not a believable mandate. We just, yeah, really need your help. So it's a ramblin' of responses, but if you are arranging, you know, a simple-handed moment, have access to your service line, you will more than welcome anybody who can help us to fill out so it's very nice for that property. For people, we know that many people live in, you know, in the apartment on the west end, and you do not have access to their service lines until the pop-in. It's a good thing to have access to. So for those buildings, we are working with the landlords and family members to get access to those. Here's a picture of both of the policies that we've been in the results to meet as of March 27, so it's a couple weeks old. But, oh, I still have what's two and three, how long is this going to be? It's been found at Ward 5 on March 27, and it's a preview of your neighbor's immediate service. And we really appreciate your neighbors and if you're one of them, thank you. And if you're not, we could be one of them. That's going to be a day in March, but it's another 2,900 times serving our sponsors, which is really great considering it's about 1,000 service lines. So just under 10% that means about 8%, which we're pretty excited for a serving person. I mean, any sort of responsibility is exciting, so it really fits well for all of those who are serving. Yeah, I'm just going to tell you for me, most people do have cover services, but few people do still have galvanized. A lot of the newer services coming in are plastic. The several iron services that are hanging on martin buildings that have fire connections to these places. And then you can see there's very few unknowns from the serving responses. What usually that means is the person's taking pictures and the fittings are so close to the wall or to the concrete in the ground and you can't see the water surface. Or it's a picture of the meter, but not where the service enters from the ground or wall. Well, a lot to see of the water meter more important to see where the service comes into the ground or wall because that's the information that we have. So it's a combination of this. But overall, we're happy with the response, but we're going to be happy or something. And now that there's nothing in the middle end, thank you. Thank you. It's sort of doing a graphic. That's my nice point. There is a rubble. Excellent. Thanks for your success and your autonomy. And it's been every month you draw two people have missed their answers and each of those people have been a big killer part of the randomized business. You have a spreadsheet with all the businesses in Berlin from the Gulf and you just don't choose to do it for everyone. And that or two more questions. Go ahead. You know, what is what is running service line? It was not making I guess inherently more they don't like other than a tend to be the process by which you know, first of all, they get like blood for all build up in their arteries and it can start and reduces blood pressure. So if we have to regulate flush the same flow kind of in the middle of the pipe and we get bad water pressure and not great. So that is the flexible connector called this neck. Sometimes those are made of lead. So I think that is the process that I think is actually going to work. My next question is obviously there are other lines that are not just the service lines am I correct with the city service lines? Yes. City's jurisdiction at the water meter. So I think that is a good question. So there are things that you're worried that your information might contain but there are several laws in the amount to prevent of this happening but it's not important to the whole community. So the line is the route and internal plumbing but again that's why we have to think of a pathway to the water because on the oxygen channel somewhere someone who is in the water . So my question is what are the greatest threats to water quality now and going into the future? It's a great question. I don't know if I'll answer. I do know that I don't know the exact meaning there are a lot of things floating in the water as it comes in the raw water intake and it requires more process that out and then rain events like that in July that really increases the humidity so I know that to be a concern I don't know that's the concern dating on what the process is and what they are doing in the process. So some of the other water quality concerns that they don't affect our drinking water but for the lake specifically which that sent it from the variety to the states that they how much and TNBL which is TNBL they go with the import and water bodies that sort of regulates maximum levels of certain nutrients that the water water quality so phosphorus is strong water streets look like phosphorus but the streets explained elsewhere there's no phosphorus mentioned What why are we the that TNBL from being considered clear water from water but water is fully safe. There are TNDLs in our region, like Tony said. Which is just, that's just the EPA saying, we know that there's an issue with phosphorus in the canton. We don't want to add more. This is how much you're allowed to let and you don't think that you can provide. So that's just a regulation. Yes, a TNDL essentially means that we hear that water quality is fragile. So there's an interesting, we're watching this closely. These are the maximum levels that should be in it to make sure to protect the water. So it wouldn't attract a very large flow into the labors of itself. Any kind of vital water? Yes. Are you using a TNDL? Yes, a TNDL really works. So that would be from, like, from stormwater runoff, from, like, engulfed growth, which was done in our ward and what happens with the TNDL, the TNDL would be protected with you all? Yes. Those are the things that you are also watching. We do watch those, and actually, totally a different part. It's really cool stormwater, man. It's really fun, but it's in no line, and I just keep looking. I thought I was talking about numbers, but that's the thing that we need to sort of manage. Is that new? Well, it's connected. Well, if you have any other questions about water or water quality, you can reach out to the customer care. My email is on this computer. You don't need any questions about the search sign. I started to do a little summary line with the photo picture. So, if I submit it without all the pictures, it's still valid, but 100% sure that it is. That's a lot of people that take seven hours of look for it. Yeah, sure. If you want to, if you want to watch the picture, if that's your receipt from your, if you want to do it at home, you can. I wouldn't know about it. It's done all this well. And that would be something else. Then if we didn't do the work. I don't know. It's not a couple of three or four. It's property. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. So. Whenever you're ready for the slides again. We are going to. Revision. To. Steering. Just as a quick review. Of the rules here. Anyone in four and five. Is. And they just sort of found the strength. Maybe other than that, we must be able to support them. And. And if we were to work on it. You are also. Welcome to vote. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you for joining us. Yeah. and do any debrief as necessary in several weeks and minutes. On the end of that, please send us an e-mail, send me your outreach, and post them to our course board. I want to say, it's about two to four hours a month, but other hearings may never start with that. Unless you want to pick up, and I'm sure you want to pick up because I want to pick up. And, you know, I love you for all of us. I'd like to see anybody trying to restrain you. All right, so here's who we've got. If you want to go to the next slide. Roger and Terry are standing down. So thank you, Terry. And then there are a few more of us and we can talk about nominations and other people who are welcome to nominate themselves. Is anyone else on the cards here who may want to say anything about what it's like to do this job? My favorite part of this is in the African State of Columbia. Wow. That's pretty good. I still get used to get together once a month. Everybody brings us this room, which is great. So here's, here's how I think this is going to go. Everybody is welcome to nominate someone for nominating themselves as also allowed. And again, we have nine, the potential of the nine seats. And that means that we probably won't have super sick competition in Seattle. Or do you want to volunteer again? I think we could have it. I don't want to speak too soon. And I think once, once you've been nominated, maybe you'll say a few words about why you want to be on the steering committee just so we don't know each other a little bit better. And then provided that we do not have more than nine people running for steering committee, I'm going to make a motion to randomly vote as a on the whole slate to save ourselves. Does that sound okay? Great. That's right. Yeah, raise your hand. Okay.  Oh, yeah. Oh, yes, I would love to serve. What were you saying? Yeah, that's me at least 15. Hello, this will be one minute. My name is Bray Matheria. I live on Colorado. I was to order five in the last year, but I grew up in South Burlington, Burlington. All of the years of my life mostly. I'm very happy to live in my neighborhood and I've had a great time being neighbors in the last few months, especially in the last few years. And I feel really excited about events and holding coordinating events so that I can hear the voice of my neighbors, but I'm hoping my neighbors will be there at first. So that's the main reason that I am interested in the steering committee. And I can't possibly think of a better use of the very first day of every month to go to the next year in college. Would anybody else like to nominate yourself? I'm going to nominate you. I'm going to nominate you. Do you think anybody wants to nominate yourself? I'm going to nominate her if she wants to nominate myself. You're going to be my answer to the red light. I'm going to nominate myself. I'm going to nominate myself. I'm going to nominate myself. I'm going to nominate myself. You're going to be my answer to the red light. I am learning three words. I am going to nominate yourself. I think that this neighborhood is a kind of home of so much diversity and so we can get to care about each other, really enjoy being a part of the NPA and a part of this community. And I see that we can have a lot of wonderful communities that way. Together and to get that a beautiful little one and talk about the future of our community. So. I'm Jason. I live on Fairline Street. And this is a community for a year. And what I'm excited about for this coming year is doing something because despite the fact that. So I'm really excited about granting that a compliment to the information and discussion that happens here, which is super important. People working together on specific on the ground improvements of their choosing for the neighborhood with mutual support to. And I see my role in that is as sort of being a consultant slash advocate slash coach slash whatever's needed to help people figure out how to make a solid step forward. I need to leave it out. I didn't want to get into that. I don't want to hear yourself. So, I would say the future, I think I did a lot of sort of for maybe working for years. Maybe break. But, you know, I guess I'm the most senior number. The staff here. And, you know, I'm taking care of the website to a very early degree, not the name that they missed something. I don't mind, but you know, it's getting me more time. Some of your three robust like everybody. My name is Maurice and I live in a place where it's free. I just hope I'm pretty good now. Great place to live. I don't know. Right.  Bring it to the whole file. I like it. That's what I'm saying. So, thank you. Again, the towers. It was actually my friend. So, but I'm excited about what I'm thinking now. I think that I think that the background also and now here. So, I think that my personal background is not engaged in us. We're working part of that. Yeah. There are a lot of files. So, I just think it's not a great opportunity. It's not a great opportunity. I would like to know the job. Beach Beach. My name is again, Jack Tiano. I was on St. Paul's street. My first MPI meeting was last year on election night. And so I remember feeling like, oh, I wanted to get it all. But like for my first meeting, it didn't feel like comfortable except I'm like, yeah, sure. I'll jump right in. But I think I've been to every meeting since that one. And I really loved what I found here. And like three kind of said, I'm really into kind of direct democracy thought about organizing getting people to get a room together and talk about things and solve problems. You know, basically the same. And so, yeah, I'm excited to do, to give some of my time, or as much time as I can, with two to four hours to kind of help continue to build up with MPAD. I keep thinking in a lot of my advocacy on other work with the city government that like, you know, my, my dream of where Berlin take can go is get it becomes really, you know, more empowered over time to kind of have decisions bubble up from the MPA up to the city level. Instead of kind of the city coming to us, we're going to the city. So finding ways to continue building relationships with our community members and making what makes for a five so great. Yeah, that's, that's the, that's my, my interest in. Thank you. All right. I believe that we accept the nomination of all those. I started my nominations. Thank you. Anyone on the motions. Thank you. Should we should. Okay, well, we have a. So I guess for me, we vote to accept the motion to accept all of the nominations and vote as it's pleased. Right. All of them are enough. You can go. All right. Thank you very much. And now we're going to vote to. elect our new slate of seven hearing committee members. All right. Yeah. And we really want to bring to you a new folks, maybe we'll meet them in shortly to do our every kind of meeting and planning for next meeting. Like for you as a new hearing. So we believe I have all of your general addresses. Well, obviously. And by the way, we use slack. Okay. All right. All right. Our next, our next thing is doing assembly. So, I'm going to hang it over. Unless actually. There's a question. I'm wondering if we want to make it quick announcement. And then maybe a German online. We've got nobody online. And this next. More. Everyone. Yeah. Okay. I was kind of. Honored quality. For this region. I think it's. I think it's something that totally is weird. If you do, you know. And. Work. Yeah. I can't quite tell what the letter is, but there's also. It was in a different zone. Yeah. Yeah.  I think, I think it's organized. It's, it's not. No. That's a lot of time. It's going to be. Yeah. So. Morning. Is there a. Yeah. So you really need to be. Especially. People automatically. So. You really should go in the city website. And look out. Yeah. You know, And you're. Right. No. Oh yeah. They don't have. Just. No. No. That.  So I think what we're going to do. Is that if this sits right with y'all. Is anything to say. Thank you for attending. And we'll wrap up our meetings here. We won't say goodbye again. But we will be doing some stuff in the room. And we feel free to keep the camera rolling as you. I'm used to this. So. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Thank you. Of course, a few hours and a couple of hundred people came through, it's music, the music that I wrote in one of the days that I run down, it was music, dance, music, yeah, they did. Every time, one of the things that we did was we put out a big chart and asked people to write it. I think it was about an improvement, but they might have seen it, it's out now. They were all on the map, all kinds of things suggested. It was really interesting. So we then took that and turned it into a Google form where people could pay, say which ones they liked the best, and pay an additional office. And we had 80-some people who drove out that form and also then brought the suggestions to me, yeah, we got to add more ideas, add the being, et cetera. So now we're at the part where the road meets the road in the sense of I want to start moving towards a standard that will help people decide what things they want to help make happen. And here's the supported backing that it needs to go ahead. And to sort of kickstart that, what I did was I went through all of the suggested ideas and looked for themes. And four themes emerged, and we may end up changing them even somewhere, but starting point. And one of them in the work on community gatherings, meaning that there were a number of different ideas that people raised and thought were excited about, it was basically about getting people together in one form or another. So walking groups, and there's book clubs, like clubs, dance parties, movies, things that are not infrastructure, but that are community gatherings and such. And those are super awesome, and also I think are really good things to focus on, because the sky's the limit. If people are going to put in time and organize, these are all things that are very doable. So that's one thing. And it's about people who are interested in that, who are going to spend a little time with those folks together, and start to think about what they want to do along those lines. The second theme is a Callahan Park upgrade. There were a lot of ideas related to improving Callahan Park, including planting more fruit trees and berries, getting an outdoor food front table installed. You can get outdoor food front tables that are all the way there, just to be indestructible. Some sort of outdoor stage of pavilion, that's a larger project, but you know, maybe there's a language barrier to start. And bringing the bathrooms to general control and getting them actually open for some reasonable amount of time on two or three days. I didn't think I'd see this, but it's a lot. And more picnic tables, and seating, and other things that let people just hang out with us. And I'm sure there's plenty of other things involved, but just the ones that have come so far before. If you've already been seen there, please tell any part of it. Laura, but to get it started. Can I just interject, because I understand you're going to get asked all along. Does this have, I don't know if people actually have anything. The city did this major review and tires of professionals in that community. Just to be sure that you've created an application. Yes. So just to be sure that you're talking to somebody. Yeah. I mean, I think there's two ways to think about that. One is, yes, absolutely. We should take up that plan at one angle of attack, might be, which of the things that we explained, out of the county, yeah, at least if you want to explain. Yeah. And then there may be other things that aren't in the plan, but they're going to be like wings. That would be worth pursuing as well. And that's entirely a discussion. Thank you for reading that. The third team is what I, some awkwardly calling me, some more five. There were several people who said, this is all very Callahan and by the sister of central. What about the southern part of 45. And people that should sign up for addition. Traffic coming on more time and bringing water service to very far so it can have. And again, I'm sure there's other things that might emerge there. And I'm not sure if this, if this makes sense as we focus here, but very much as a theme in those boxes, so I'm going to put it out there and see if there are people who would like to focus specifically on. And then the last thing. Last team is. When I'm calling the. Which is one of the things that multiple people call for is some sort of self and community slash. Other parts of the city have awesome. So it does. And that's a real gap. And I call it the big thing to you because that's, if anybody wants to tell me about that's something where you need to think about all because that's something that will take a certain effort or both for years to pull off, but for a really big return. If. They're actually one. I think that's kind of a community center for the folks who live there. Not a sort of broad open community center. So I don't think it was a missing something. I don't think there is, you know, a twiddle in life. I don't think they must have missing something that all picture is you know, like the recorded of the general center. Yeah, that's not. Are you on the report? The. Good question. Good. And. That's pretty much going to be my response to any question that but you're asking me because my role is not to have answers. It's to help all of you find answers. So couple of sort of logistical notes and then I'm gonna put these around the room and people can self sort into the group that you want to start thinking about. One is like I mentioned earlier, the steering committee pieces Slack organize our work. And one of the things I'm gonna propose and really encourage for each of these teams into these groups is I created a Slack chat for each one of these and we can get anybody who is interested in the team into Slack. What I found is that from working on something like this and here by the mail, there's just a million emails back and forth and there are plenty of emails about whatever it is you want to find. And Slack does a nice job of putting them to take one place and by adding it in the same way, Slack instance it's called as steering committee, it makes it easy for the steering committee to be supportive of these products. If that doesn't look completely not working great, we'll do something else. But I wanted to put that on a starting point because we have time to be very peaceful for the things that we do. But what we're gonna do today is I've got for each team, there's three copies of something that has to name our team and then sort of the major bullets that were related to it coming out of the work today. And then one copy has just as many emails, please put them in the email if you're interested in this group because obviously we need to have a way to connect with everybody in the industry. And then the other two are just for ideas and notes. And I'm not sure what we'll do with them but I think it's pretty obvious that if we're starting to think about how we make some of this stuff happen, we should catch our needs. So I'll write it down and then I'll figure out what the framework is. Any questions before we get started? Yep. Go ahead. How, if you think about how people are not here, are there any other important things? Yes, there's a couple of things. There's the list of participants from this meeting at the last one. We'll reveal everybody once the stuff is running and we'll offer everybody an opportunity to connect with one of the participants and decide if they want to shoot or end up with a passage. We hear, yeah, the Steward Committee will do that. The Steward Committee's role, and mainly I'll be doing this, but in the context of being part of Spirit Committee, is to be the support system for all those teams. And then we can go to the preferred forum and anything else that we usually do for anything related. And what I'll figure out and haven't really given much thought to yet is how do we make an easy on-ramp for anybody who isn't here tonight, but wants to be involved in one of these teams? Hey, I'm interested, not at all. What do I do? How do I sidestep? I don't think that's right. I don't know, it's not true. So she's glad, what? It's not true. It's not true. Perfect. I love it. Any other questions? Yeah. Can you sign up for a vote for me? Absolutely. And you can either stay with one that you would choose in tonight and then get involved with another one later, or you can bounce back before the tonight either way. But I'll just stay with Sunday. Anybody else? All right. It was seven. It was seven. Yeah. So we do have a budget every year. So $1,500 or something like that. So I'll have this, maybe I'll put it this way. I don't know if you can trust me. And if I understand that's some cost, because there's a fraction of the cost that you pay for this group of people. And if people have something on an orderable cost, can you move it? Of course. Can you move it? Yeah, you might pay a little bit of a month. Well, that's true. You know, it was clear that there would be something. So we want to have some effort to perform this here so that next year we can have a plan for this kind of stuff. But if they require something. Yeah, it's $2,500 totally. Yeah, so it's not like that. You can do it on a mobile phone, but it's a community center. You can have a big call plan. You can have a big call plan. Yeah, a big call plan. So we'll put team one, which is community gatherings and gather right here. Team two, which is Callahan Park. We'll put it over in this city. The team is three, which is still there to one of five. We'll put it down here. And team four, which is big thing, community center, but over here. All right, so how about support yourselves and that's where you want to be. And I will just kind of close and help them and figure that out as we go. You can try to do this. You can try to do this. Yeah, that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So good. Thank you. Wow. So are you guys done, adult? Of course no. Okay. Okay, so let's go and see who both of them are. Yeah. That's alright. Yeah. Let's do that. We'll take Krankenhaus, Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we kept it on earlier when they were sharing information that I think probably turn it off. Yeah.


Our serving and blocking turned on and it's easiest way to separate from other teams reciting out back and forth and Landon in particular had a great night's serving but so did KJ and Mike and Avery came in as a serving sub for Nate who had a hurt hand so I think we knocked him off balance with our serving Yeah, he definitely can put that in his repertoire of shots because defenses they fall back when he's bombing the ball and then it's called a roll shot or a tip, he doesn't really tip open handed but this roll shot is real effective because it looks like it's a spike that's coming at you and so everybody's kind of back on their heels but I got to teach him to hit it where it goes flat over the net and not up and over and today he did a really good job actually of hitting it flat right over the block and dropping in Yeah, the guys were disappointed that a way match at Eastern Mendenite but they're a really good team, they've been winning, I think they're at the top of the conference really good blocking team and we lost in five, I think it was a wake up call for our team too that it's not going to be any easy team I saw Thiel, you know, battled with I think it was Marymount just recently and Karn can take a set from anyone or maybe a match if you let him so we're playing everybody like we're playing Ohio State Well, I wasn't here last year so I was treating this as a new chapter and the guys, you know, new Rutgers better than I did they told me that they had lost a lot of seniors kind of like we had so it's a new story, you know, our guys with our seniors now against their guys but they definitely fought hard that second set was a turning point if they would have taken it, it would have been a battle, I think, all the way but I really liked our resiliency when things weren't quite grown right we still found a way to win that second set