What's going on everybody live moods here joined by the fabulous Aaron Kate Dolan for episode three of Girls Who Bet. This is a very special episode not just because we have a special guest Ariel Epstein prop queen joining us in a little bit. But it is also wine Wednesday. So I don't really like wine and I was just I was in the mood to make a mark and actually does look pretty cute. The lime I could have done a better job on but I didn't really know how to cut that properly. So that's what it's so funny. You guys I called her before this and I was like, Hey, I'm on my way home. Like I'll see you soon. She's like, Hey, I got to go I'm making a drink. I'm like, I was trying to be that I could actually make it make it taste relatively good compared to, you know, I get I get marks a lot when I'm out. So I had to try to make it. I was like, Okay, she's making a cocktail. I was like lame and just poured some wine in a glass. But I do have to say before we bring on Ariel in a little bit. I would bet my life on it that she will show up with a wine glass filled with the exact same wine that I am drinking which is Kim Crawford Savion Blanc. I put my life on it. I will ask her when she joins what she's drinking but I guarantee you her and I are winos and that's our favorite one. So I decided to cheers to the prop queen but either way. Yeah, tough week too. I mean, our first I was thinking about it and I just named it when it rains and pours like that lukewarm song. And it we I mean, I'm going to kind of speak for live here did terrible bowl in week two. I was so hot week one. I'm talking like 10 in two. I don't think I hit one bet in week two. And I knew this was coming. I knew I go in a cold trick. I just didn't know this badly. Well, you did warn people you did say on episode two, you're like, I was on a hot streak, which means a cold streak is coming. You did warn I just don't think you nor I anticipated the cold streak would be like Antarctic type freezing cold because I know it was like Titanic freezing, Jackson the water freezing dying type situation. Iceberg Titanic were frozen in the water like ice cold. But you and I were actually talking on the phone because we had a live stream last week on Instagram. And it's very funny to see the difference not really funny but very crazy how different the DMs and the comments are after a winning week and after a losing week and I don't know about you. And I should have done this a long time ago but I actually turned off my DMs on Twitter and I actually hate that I had well and I here's why I don't like that I had to do that because I actually get a lot of fulfillment from chatting with people and some of the some of my followers are so nice and they say the sweetest things and I love interacting with people and like, you know, being a personable friendly person but last week was tough. We had some very ugly people on the IG live. I mean, the DMs were wild this week. It comes with a territory but I feel like NH or excuse me and it fell just heightens it and the you can't win because in week one when I was winning people were like, Oh, some guys giving you that or Oh, the book gave you that or you didn't actually hit that or X, Y and Z and then I took less heat honestly this week because I've got so many DMs on Instagram. My DMs are up and down on Twitter saying I couldn't hit a bet. None of my friends could hit a bet. We were all out of the bar. Nobody can hit a bet. What is up with week two and I had talked about this before the season even started week one and week two or two of the hardest weeks to bet in the NFL because there's not much to draw off of it. NFL week two was a reaction week. Obviously some of that I factored into the picks that I was making but it is interesting to see they're I feel like you just can't win. You can't win when you're winning. They're mad when you're losing. They're mad. So it's just it comes with the territory. I got to give a shout out on twitch s Brunner 17 says he went three and one he or she I'm sorry went three or one can't win them all haters gonna hate so true. I mean the reality is no matter what we do, we're gonna have people that love it and we're gonna have people that hate it. So s Brunner 17 shout out to you for the support. I believe Aaron correct me for wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're gonna give out some Fandall credit today a little bit. So maybe we will do a trivia question or we'll just give it to someone who's got good energy. I don't know. I mean, yeah, let's give it a half hour and then one after Ariel abstain because when we have her on we're gonna do two truths and a lie which will be really fun. So you want to stay tuned for that and it's she's gonna give some great insight into how she handicaps games and just kind of her presence as a female in the sports betting industry like live and I so stay tuned for that. But let's also talk about some of our teams because this week and the Eagles lost at home. It was very unfortunate. It was a tough scene. Looking forward to this week though, we played Dallas in Dallas Monday Night Football. So we'll get a little bit into those lines in a in a tad bit. But I know your Denver Broncos live looked a lot better than my Philadelphia Eagles. You know what though? Again, I don't want to let myself get too excited here with this Broncos team because I felt this before the highs are high and the lows are low. So I'm not letting myself get too excited just yet. I will say I'm very excited about this matchup for them up against the Jaguars. I think that they just I'm sorry, not the Jaguars, the Jets, wrong bad team. My apologies. They're both bad JT. Up against this Jets team. I really like them. They're finally at home, you know, mile high stadium. I'm excited to see it, you know, packed and pumped up and Teddy Bridgewater 37 and 14 against the spread 72.5%. So he is definitely and I got to say it. I got to be honest as a Broncos fan, I was nervous about Bridgewater, mostly nervous about his health, but just not sure what he was going to bring to this Broncos team. He is killing it. I've loved watching him. So I'm a happy Broncos fan, but I'm also treading lightly because I've seen this before. I don't want to get myself too excited, but I do think they have a good match up in the Jets being at home. The 11 spread, we can talk about bets a little bit later. I think that's a lot. So I'm not sure I'm going to touch that game, but I am excited. And I think that they get a W. I'm just not sure if they'll cover the 11 points there, but I'm excited to watch the Eagles against Dallas. I don't want to make any hot takes quite yet. I wish it was in Philly. I know. And that's, I was going to say if it was in Philly, it would be electric and I'd probably be flying out to go to the game with you to be completely honest, but personally, but yeah, but I'm excited for that game. I think that's a really awesome Monday night football game. And I know we'll get to it, but I'm, I'm not writing off your Eagles team. I still like watching them. I still like Jaylen Hertz. So I've got the faith there. I'm still feeling it. All right. Well, let's go through some of the other teams that are undefeated. So the Raiders and the Broncos in the AFC West, we had the 49ers Rams Cardinals and FC West and then the Bucks and Panthers in the NFC South. So your Broncos still undefeated. Some of these teams are going to play each other. The Rams and the Bucks will play each other this week, which I personally think on the slate is the best game. Another thing I wanted to mention, which was interesting is since 2007, only 10% of teams that start Owen to make the playoffs. That includes Minnesota, the Colts, Detroit, Atlanta, the Jets, Jags and New York Giants. What's most surprising to me out of those teams live would probably be the Colts. I mean, Carson Wentz, I already made my stance on him from Philadelphia, not going to go there, but just in general, the fact that he rolled both ankles again, and a lot of people are riding high on the Colts, potentially being able to beat the Titans in that division. But it's just interesting to see some of these teams like just going Owen to 10% chance to make the playoffs. Tough. I'm not necessarily surprised by the line lineup of teams that we have going Owen to right now. What I'm more interested about is these undefeated teams because being undefeated doesn't last very long unless you're the Steelers and you do it like that was absurd. I didn't see that coming at all last season, but I'm kind of interested to get your take on which of these undefeated. Yeah, it has totally sailed. I'm interested to get your take on which undefeated team you think is the next to lose. You've got the 49ers playing the Packers. Like you said, Rams are playing the Bucks. Panthers are playing the Texans. I think the Panthers can definitely get a win there. Cardinals playing the Jaguars. I have no issues with the Cardinals in that one. I know a lot of people on Twitter have kind of been telling me a little nervous about how heavy the public is on the Cardinals. That's not one where I don't think I'm going to consider the public just because it's the Cardinals up against the Jaguars. Like I would be astonished. Now maybe they don't cover that seven and a half spread, but I don't see them losing in that one. I don't see the Broncos losing to the Jets. The Raiders potentially the public's going to be hot on the Raiders. The Raiders are going to be at home. I could see the Raiders maybe being the next team to get a loss out of these undefeated teams, but I would love to know your stance. Obviously Bucks and Rams, it's tough because they're both on the list. One of them has to lose, but I think the Raiders could potentially get a loss here. I'm a little nervous. Yeah, I feel like what the Raiders issue right now is Derek Carr and his health because we're still waiting to see if he is going to start in that game. So for me personally, just knowing that two is out, knowing that Derek Carr could be questionable personally would stay away from it, but totally understand your point there. As opposed to let's say the Broncos, I assume are going to beat the Jets. The Cardinals are going to beat the Jags. The Panthers are expected to beat the Texans. That line keeps moving out, but I feel like the Texans might be able to cover something there because everyone's betting that line up so high at this point. But I know that we both like Green Bay to cover plus three and a half. I think they had the potential easily to not, I shouldn't say the word easily, to beat the 49ers, I think out of all them, Green Bay could come out successful in that. Now the Bucks Rams, I do like the Bucks in it. They were originally the underdog, short underdog was basically a pick-up. They now flipped to minus money, but the Rams playing at home. So if I stadium, I can see the Rams pulling off a win. I know a lot of the talk is the Bucks go undefeated. And then the other conversation I keep hearing about is are the Jags actually going to be able to go like oh win 17 again. So it's going to be interesting to see how that shakes out. I mean the NFC West, just in general, the facts that the 49ers are so good, the Rams are so good, the Cardinals are so good. Just a tough division, but out of all them, I think in order who's going to stay undefeated, you make a good point about the Raiders Miami game. And then I think it's going to be one of the Bucks or Rams, obviously. Yeah. It's a tough one for me. I know. I just right off the top, I think if I had to pick an undefeated team that's going to suffer a loss this weekend, I would go Raiders, but anything can happen. I mean, for God's sake, if week two doesn't show you that anything can happen, I don't know what does because my Lord, we had not only a ton of bets, but a lot of injuries this week as well. It felt like and in addition, I mean, there was taunting calls. There were bad beats. There were underdogs covering the spread again, but injuries were also bad. Yeah. Injuries were terrible. We have two of, he's out with a rib injury. Andy Dalton, he's going to be out. Justin Fields is going to play, which is smack in the middle of the week that Liv and I had picked. She thought he was going to start week two. I thought he was going to start week four, obviously with Andy Dalton being injured. I kind of expedited it. Then we have Tyra Taylor. He's going to be out hamstring. Davis most going to start for the Texans Thursday night football. Wens rolled both of his ankles, but his status is still to be determined against the Titans. Now Baker Mayfield, he is starting, I'm just mentioning that he did kind of rough up his shoulder in that one play this past weekend, but he ended up coming back in the game. So I'm not too concerned about that, but I just felt like the feed was coming through all weekend of injury, injury out. Oh, he's back in. Oh, he's not. So it's going to be a tough week in terms of week three betting as well with kind of the health and availability of some of these players because we're not at the point where anybody's making a playoff push where we're like, okay, he's definitely going to play. They'll figure something out. They don't really need to play right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, I made a tweet. I made a tweet a little bit about kind of how I was leaning towards the bangles this week just because the Steelers head coach, he had a press conference on Tuesday and came forward and even he, I mean, he was very honest and was like, yeah, we've got we've got a quite a few injuries right now, especially defensively. They've got quite a few, but and Ben Rothesberger now has a little bit of a pectoral injury, I guess, and that's and the coach did say he may play, but it is definitely hindering his preparation for week three. So you're right, lots of injuries to be talked about. And like you said, it's not the playoffs yet. You don't need to be playing these players. So is it worth it to keep pushing them and potentially be out for the season or do you just rest them and get them better because these games don't necessarily matter in it matters if you took the over on their win total for sure. So betters are definitely upset, but again, it's kind of that decision as a coach of do you really take the risk in a game that's not a huge deal. So it'll be interesting to see who plays this week, who starts and what we've got going on there. I'm going to take a look at the chat on Twitch. Someone said David GN 516 said agree with live Raiders next to go down. Love that. Okay, S Brunner 17 again. Super active in the Twitch chat said Aaron Darnold hungry to get at Tom Brady. I could see it for sure. I can't pronounce some of these names, but I guess that's supposed to say 8th wonder Cardinal shouldn't even be undefeated if it weren't for the Vikings missing a field goal game winning field goal. That's the same kick. Well, ball Minnesota has a history of missing kicks. You have a point, but they won. So we can't really like there's no should have could have would have or like it was close. They either one or they lost and fortunately that's the funniest thing about our job is like I don't even care which team wins as long as they cover. That's all that really matters unless you have someone money line obviously. So I always have to factor in like I'm not always paying attention to who's winning the game. Literally did they cover did they cover in the five NFL teams that are undefeated against the spread are the Panthers Cowboys your Broncos again because they're on every list the Texans and the Raiders as well. It's so funny you bring that up. I was just thinking about how my brain when watching sports has flipped because of my job like normally if you're yeah like if you're watching your team if you're watching the Eagles I'm watching the Broncos a win is all I care all I used to care about now. I'm like okay you better make this field goal because I'm about to lose by the hook. You don't figure it out and I still find myself even if they win you're still getting upset with your team.  This is a good question for you Erin from the chat on twitch. It says David GN 516 again says do you think all four teams from the NFC West can reach the playoffs. Not all four teams I would say I mean it that's actually tough question. I mean obviously one of them is going to go into it no matter what all four teams now I don't see all four teams going to it. Things are going to happen is the first out. Who do you think is the first out hitting you with a tough question again. I mean they're expecting at least the odds before this season were expecting that the Cardinals would be the one team out of them out but at the same time the 49ers keep kind of having those injuries coming along that they're still two and oh but they lost a lot of key players like again right they're two and oh but I love the Seahawks but they're one and one they're in the bottom of the division right now technically I love the Cardinals too this is such a tough question. I think something will happen to the 49ers but then you have Trey Land so you're kind of that's a I'm skin stumped on that question. I think I would probably knock the Seahawks out first to be completely honest with you. I feel like Russ I know it makes sense but I actually think he's been looking good the first couple weeks but then again he kind of did this in the beginning of last season I think they went five and oh and then he was kind of showed negative regression from there but same thing with Carla Murray the Cardinals were so hot the beginning of last season and then I think they finished seven and seven at the end it'll be interesting to see how it plays out for sure that's definitely the toughest division to look at in terms of a betting perspective it's so hard futures in general just when people ask those questions because the injuries like look how many players went down now like this is only going to get worse also look at the Saints they had what eight coaches that were out due to the COVID protocol come play off time we don't even know if that's going to play a factor and those people were right I believe vaccinated too so there's just so much like goes into the futures especially with COVID before I think you used to be able to make futures picks now it's just makes it so much more tough it is especially with the COVID thing you made a good point you are really really good you're like a sniper with this you're really good at figuring out which games are trap games that you should stay away from and which games you I mean you called it I think you said last week that the Saints game was a trap game you caught on with that you're really good at kind of getting a feel for which games are just nope that's suspicious the line is weird it's moved in a weird direction that is definitely a trap game so I would love to get both of our takes on week three slate with a little trap or attack attack means you love it you're attacking it you're putting your money on it you and maybe you don't know which side of the game you're on but you like the game and you're going to take a look at it and trap means something's fishy I don't like what I see I'm staying away so do you want to start because you're like fantastic at this I'm going to pull up the slate but you're really good at looking at this side here so live and I talk constantly I don't think we will realize how often we talk so like I think every day we're talking we definitely talk every day I don't know if you call me Tuesday morning or Monday morning we were just talking about I think this is Tuesday Monday no no it was Tuesday we were talking through the bets looking at the slate kind of and I think it was the Seahawks minus three at the time and I was like that Seahawks Vikings game like that's a trap game stay away from it it's now Seahawks minus one and a half and the reason I say this is because if you read Warren Sharp's book over the summer I know a lot of people were getting into that in terms of betting he had two good points on it that I didn't even know about which is Minnesota's 35 and 15 at home under Mike Zimmer and won at least 50% of their home games in each of those seasons before posting a three and five home record last season due to COVID without fans now the Vikings had the NFL's best home cover rate in the NFL 70% since moving into their new stadium so the Vikings are very very very good at home so I thought at this time maybe they would be minus money I mean I know they're own two right now but still to this effect I think the Vikings this was a trap game but if I was going to lean one way I would just take Vikings money line in this but that was the one that I was off the bat was like I'm staying away from in the past two weeks has been the Saints games that I called trap games which were both trapped and you kind of scared me out of betting on the Saints right now because I took them minus three and a half and obviously but Saints for lap for week two Oh week two yes yes yes it was a favorite and actually I kind of want to touch on this for a quick second too that now I'm like getting PTSD and getting really nervous when I see the number three and a half because I have literal PTSD from week two I had chiefs minus three and a half no go Saints minus three and a half same no go Cardinals minus three and a half no go so I mean I don't whatever reason that three and a half number was sketchy in week two and it's kind of making me want to stay away in week three that being said I do think I have a three and a half bet so maybe I should just like swallow my own words but yeah you got to be careful not every game is worth your bet I mean week one I took all plus three and a half like across the board every single dog and I said that from the beginning and that worked out my favorite so week two I was like there's no possible way with me picking some of the favorites minus three and a half that they are all going to not cover and it didn't work in my favor I just sort of taking the dog again I know the dog seemed to be the way to go if you don't know what to bet just take the dogs to cover the spread it's kind of how it feels Ariel hi guys welcome my girl we were just talking about week three or yeah week three we kind of have this new segment right now that is called trap or attack and we were basically talking about how there are some games that are just trap games and right off the bat you can look at the sleigh and say no this is not a good idea I should not bet on this so since you're here first of all welcome to thanks guys I have Tim by the way and shout out to Chelsea messenger who got me this wine glass like it says prop queen she got it for me like a year or two ago like thanking me for coming on the show she's so sweet so yeah me and Kim Crawford are celebrating obsessed okay I want you to repeat that because when I got on this I said to everyone I will put my life on it that Ariel will show up with a glass of Kim Crawford Sauvignon Blanc is that what you're drinking oh my gosh of course 100% I'll put my I've been because I hear myself echoing um but here cheers to you I am drinking the same Aaron sure what you've got you you so I came with a marg Ariel because I'm fancy yeah I didn't have any wine and so I just went for it for it nothing wrong with that no nothing wrong with that I just know that then I always drink Kim Crawford always yeah but anyway okay so you guys were talking about these NFL lines and you were talking about which ones you just feel are trappy right yeah a little bit and and Aaron just mentioned that the Seahawks initially opened at minus two and a half it's now down to minus one and a half when it was at minus two and a half though she told me on the phone she's like that one feels like a trap game sure enough some weird line movement she had some facts about the Vikings and how they play at home under Mike Zimmer so she has declared that the Seattle game feels like a trap game I was just getting ready to say that there are two games to me that are a little something in my gut is like I'm not sure it's the Colts versus the Titans something about does not feel right I'm not a fan of that one and the other one that I don't really love believe it or not is the Bears versus the Browns I don't know what it is but that minus seven just doesn't feel good to me and I just think I'm gonna stay away from that one personally but more so the Colts versus the Titans I don't love that one I'm definitely not betting on it but are there any games that you are feeling like are trap games and you're staying away from them I love the ones that you guys mentioned I agree Minnesota is a completely different team when they're home than away especially with their quarterback Kirk Cousins I've heard from so many odds makers that said whenever Kirk Cousins is on the road you just have to laugh at it and say haha all these people are gonna go take the points with Minnesota and they're gonna lose because Kirk Cousins is horrendous on the road it's just a running joke when he's home different story same thing for a lot of the games you mentioned live like we don't know what Justin Fields is gonna look like at quarterback for Chicago I don't like to bet on uncertainty and people laugh when I joke about that because all gambling is essentially uncertain however I really don't know what Justin Fields is going to look like and it wouldn't even shock me if he's such a playmaker like you saw what Justin Herbert did week two last year with the Chargers the Chiefs had absolutely no idea he was gonna be starting that game and they covered that spread and almost won the game outright you have zero film on Justin Fields I agree with you you cannot lay the points that seven and a half with a banged up Cleveland Browns team who now lost Jarvis Landry their wide receiver in addition to Odell Beckham Jr may be playing this week for the first time in a year the other one is the Monday night football game the Dallas Cowboys are coming off a close win they had a close last week one a close win week two now they're going to Jerry's World and they're minus three and a half against the Philadelphia Eagles the Eagles already had the line move a point in their favor from four and a half to three and a half that Monday game and from people I've heard who even report and like cover the Cowboys they said they would take the points with the Eagles and that just scares me for an NFC least divisional matchup coming right at my Philadelphia Eagles hot and heavy aerial so I feel like I love them I said I wouldn't mind taking them no no no no I know but the NFC least the NFC least but I agree with you I have to agree with you today but I feel like we have to give you the proper introduction Ariel Epstein the absolute prop queen we kind of get your take obviously you said some of the games that you would like but just in general since you do handicap games whatnot what do you factor in the most especially if you're coming off let's say hypothetically if you didn't do great in week two what are you doing going into week three drinking wine Kim Crawford no of course I like to look a lot at situational spots of course I love betting on the props I like to bet a lot of the different games where I see certain trends happening from a props perspective I love to attack bad secondaries I like to go for longest receptions props I like to target some players that maybe people haven't caught up to yet in the market like someone like a Tim Patrick last year his receptions prop no one caught on to him he's a Denver Broncos wide receiver there were two three young studs like a Jerry Judy a Cortland Sutton there were certain players on that team and Tim Patrick no one knew about yet his receptions prop wouldn't go for his yardage but receptions prop people just never heard of James Robinson a running back on the Jaguars last year no one heard of him until like week eight the book finally caught up it's finding those players now that we have two weeks of data that I love to look at and then also just finding again like I mentioned before those situational spots just seeing okay did they face someone in the division the next week or is this banged up secondary is this a banged up team are they coming off a short week et cetera is the team they're facing on a short week those are all the different factors I like to jump in on and then of course reverse line movement is always so much fun to track those fishy lines so I love that I mean essentially what you're saying is you find an edge which I think is so important in the betting world especially when you're looking at such a large slate it's kind of helpful to narrow it down when you've got an edge and you know a team that's injured a player that's injured a QB that's out whatever it may be but I am really curious to pick your brain on something because Erin and I have already talked about how brutal week two was for us and Vegas was obviously very happy in a lot of different ways shout out to your Baltimore Ravens Lamar Jackson they looked incredible so shout out to them I was very you know that was a game I was not expecting the game that we got me either yeah I don't think many people were but to that point Vegas you know was very happy coming out of week two and so I want to know from you you're looking at a matchup you're finding that edge you're looking at injuries how much consideration do you put into how heavy the public is on a team and how heavy the sharps are on a team because the reality is that is part of this industry is oh the public is very heavy on this team Vegas doesn't like to lose how much of that do you consider because I found myself lately almost wanting to say screw my handicapping 90 percent of my Instagram followers and 90 percent of the money in the Fandals Sportsbook is on the chiefs I kind of want to take the Ravens in this one so how much do you consider that a little bit I definitely loved from a Ravenspan perspective when no one was choosing them the Rams had this similar thing with the Colts last week where the Rams were getting 90 percent of the money the Chiefs were getting 90 percent of the money and it just stayed like I would look more as to how the line doesn't move if you're seeing that there's 90 percent of action on something and the line just sits there like it did with the Ravens and Chiefs like it did with the Rams and the Colts I say oh okay that's that's a fishy line like if that line is 90 percent on the Rams why are they not favored by more or why are the Chiefs not moving to a four four and a half that line if it was 90 percent of the action coming in on the Chiefs realistically you probably should have moved it a point and as soon in the Yanni the Greeks one of the sharpest guys out there in Vegas he came on the morning after and he said my guys grabbed Kansas City at a four and as soon as it hit four and they bet it they never touched it at three and a half three like once that line and he said that's how I knew that the book had it right because the book once they moved to four the sharp guys bet it and it went right back down to three and a half and you never saw it touch four again I looked to more how it moves the line more so than just the percentage of bets so speaking of line movement Thursday night football coming up Panthers up in minus four already bit up to minus seven and a half against Houston with Tyra Taylor of course he's not going to be playing with that hamstring injury Davis most going to step in Panthers 7-0 against his spread in the last seven home games Texans 4-0 against his spread in the last four as an underdog in this situation since the line is moving so much obviously due to injury are you going to bet on the game that way or are you going to take a prop I'll be taking props in this game is seven and a half even though I really do believe the Panthers are going to win and win easily they have a really good defense they have a top five defense across the first two weeks of the season this year in addition to facing a rookie quarterback who by the way they faced in the jets and absolutely destroyed Zach Wilson that's why I do believe Carolina wins I just would rather sit in bed a team total under on the Texans or I would go and bet something like a longest receptions prop for the Panthers because Houston has a bad defense or just Christian McCaffrey eat all day along this was the worst run defense in football last year allowing just over 160 rushing yards per game yeah Christian McCaffrey is going to eat in this game the only issue with his stats and with his props is you just hope they don't take him out and like the third quarter if they're up by too much that's why sometimes in these games if you do feel it's going to be a blowout go for those longest receptions props because all it takes is one deep pass in the first half of the game and you don't have to worry about it again I love that small flex even though it's not a flex at all Christian McCaffrey did go to high school 10 minutes for my house he doesn't know I exist he doesn't know I even am on this planet he has no idea who live moods is whatsoever I did as a high schooler post friday night football I went to iHOP he was there I was like two booths away that is a flex to me again I love that but anyway I think it's flexed because he's a total badass and it's cool that I'm like oh we grew up in the same time I say this stuff all the time I say stuff like so Mike Hughes is the Kansas City Chief's cornerback now but he used to be on the Minnesota Vikings he had a game I think it was against the browns he had an interception in the game that sealed the deal and I just remember thinking oh my gosh it's so cool I covered this guy he used to I mean he's from Newborn North Carolina which is where I worked in local news I just find those kinds of things where you like meet these people who just become famous and you meet them when they're nobodies and now you see what they amount to Brandon Ingram the same thing from the same town I worked in in North Carolina like now I walk around and like if I see Brandon Ingram his dad like messages me on Facebook it's just those kinds of things I love it it's so cool and like it's all these things that you get from a small town but no one really knows unless you're like from that small town or worked in a small town let's be real I mean quick hot take question for a minute I'm gonna get ripped apart in the chat for this one but like I care what's a bigger flex for McCaffrey the one who plays football are the fact that his girlfriend is Olivia Coppo I'm sorry I'm not leaning towards Olivia Coppo I'm sorry but she is pretty perfect to be honest with you if I if Olivia Coppo was in the stands at my home games like that might be a bigger flex than my performance on the field we always say right as females you always say that you the guy has to feel like the girl that he's with is better than them in order for them to like treat you like a princess or else they would just would take for granted who you are so he probably looks at her too and is like yeah that's pretty damn cool I'm gonna treat her like a princess when he's making his resume he looks sad I was talking to him but do you remember when she dated I believe it was a Danny Amondola and he put out this long long message about her when they broke up yes I remember I remember that oh yeah that was way back to it they broke up I was gonna say they broke up like it was like definitely public knowledge for sure because he's an NFL player and she's amazing it's just like I can't even imagine what they I mean football it's probably a little bit easier and when you're in entertainment you kind of know like the way that the world but like imagine being in entertainment and you have your crazy schedule and now you have an athletes crazy schedule like football I kind of under like at least it's you're traveling you have such a ball off season yeah but baseball like if you're with someone who plays baseball you're gone like every day you didn't do that yeah no I couldn't do that absolutely okay Ariel we also since we talked you mentioned North Carolina whatnot I wanted the chat and audience to know kind of where you've come from I know that you graduated from Syracuse I saw you did go to Penn State for two years so you kind of we're like the same Aaron you went to Oregon for a little and then Penn State and I just did a reverse Penn State at Syracuse you did it in reverse yes you did I know you after college went into local news then you got into sports betting so what was that career transition like as a female in sports now you're in sports betting as a female so it might be just a tad different but what's that transition been like for you I absolutely loved transitioning from local news to sports betting solely because I thought going into sports betting and fantasy football getting into that world and being able to talk on a talk show you're able to get out your knowledge the hardest part about local news is you've got your two and a half to five minutes most of its reading highlights you're reading some kind of script with video over your face no one actually believes that you have knowledge when you're doing that I mean some people do but there were a lot of people that would say okay how much does you really know she's reading teleprompter then I started doing radio in North Carolina and a lot of people who would watch my newscast also listen to that radio station they would message me on Facebook or email me and say wow you were great on radio today you know your stuff I can't wait to watch you again later tonight on the local newscast those were the things that I said okay I need to find a job after local news that helps me to showcase that I know my stuff that I'm not just reading highlights off a screen and that's what sports betting is able to do because also I hate the side like crap like I hate talking about the off the field stuff and the things that a lot of people like you could find that on any news channel when you're talking sports betting and daily fantasy people just want to know how to win and they want to know about the game and that's all I want to talk about I'm not here to talk politics I'm not here to talk about your life I just want to tell you how to win based on the X's O's and betting analysis that's it yeah I agree with you because I know coming from local news in Philadelphia I did struggle a little bit with like knowing there's a teleprompter you're writing in what your little segment is you're talking for maybe you know 10 to 30 seconds of a hit I was on the morning show which is different because I know you're probably doing packages and actually out there filming there and doing things like that but that's the one cool thing about betting too is that you can have an opinion on something like live can totally love a game and have her opinion that this team's going to do and not going to have the total opposite opinion and you could want to hear both of our sides which is really cool about sports betting and something that's totally different I think than going the traditional route I love that I also think too like there have been plenty of times on Twitter where now trust me more times are negative to me or like annoying and obnoxious than anything else but there are a lot of times where someone on Twitter will point something out that I didn't even think about and then I'm like oh like I do think that there's a certain level of like flexing your knowledge in this industry delivery is everything when people flex their knowledge under every tweet I ever put out and contradict every word I ever say that is not flexing your knowledge that is being annoying but to your point like Ariel you you get in front of the camera and you talk about sports and people are like well damn like she really does know her shit she really does like put in the energy and time to figure it out and I think that's the flexing of your knowledge again you're not just reading off a teleprompter or memorizing lines it's you putting in the work and then delivering the content and I think people I think people respect that a lot I mean yeah no teleprompter in my bedroom studio here there's I know no I wonder people think that all three of us have prompters because neither none of us have prompters no I stare into my ring light almost blinded after a three hour show you can see my eyes are like kind of flickering a little bit right now seriously I think I'll probably have a permanent migraine for the rest of my life probably you gotta use the blue light glasses during the day but Ariel another thing we wanted to do and play with you is two trutes and a lie so we're each gonna go through three rounds I can go first I will give my first one and then whoever answers first and if you get it right you won't have to drink your partner will have to drink but if you get it wrong you'll have to drink okay kosher got it I gotta think of my few truths and a lie here we go okay I didn't try fruit until I was a senior in high school I was on the swim team in grade school I dressed up as a boy in the Christmas pageant and was one of the wise men oh this is well thought out was the second one again I was on a swim team in grade school I'm going with you didn't try fruit till senior or until high school that's a true I'm going with you're gonna have to drink I'm going with swim team yes Libby right swim team was a lie I'm the worst swimmer ever really I actually believe that I was about to drink it I just love I just obviously love wine I was about to drink and I won yeah funny story actually I didn't want to get my hair so in my at my high school you had to take a swimming class we had that in middle school we had that in middle school it was horrible so they did that in high school in mind you I was on the day it's up you would get in a swim team so check this out you used to you used to actually you had to get in the pool your hair would get wet like you'd have to shower and everything before your next class I said H E double hockey six no I am not do you know how long it takes me to do this hair I'm not doing it I'm on the dance team I have to look good for the football game tonight I'm not doing it so I did in fact have some sort of medical excuse that I don't even remember at this point honestly they're going to make Lib go back to high school now and take that swim class they're going to like have a search for it out I think I told them that I had really because I do have eczema that was kind of a weird thing to point out but I do and I think I told them that the chlorine was bad for my skin that's amazing oh my gosh that is amazing well I didn't take swimming and it was really all about the hair I didn't want to yeah me too it was a nightmare it was like hair and I'm starting to wear a little bit of makeup in middle school they made us do it it was and at middle school too it's so awkward class I thought I mean we would just show up to gym class and we didn't have showers or anything we just showed up did it and then went back to class no it was only an act to do it in high school I'm like that's yeah it was horrible it was horrible okay Harriel are you going next or am I you go next okay thank you um first one I my whole life I have hated dogs and been scared of dogs up until about two years ago I can only drink milk if there's ice in it or I am oh wait hold on I have oh wait okay one more um or I played soccer in elementary school I feel like the lie is I played soccer yeah you have just hated on that one yeah that was that was a top live I might just drink to that in general let's just drink I think I need to drink let's think I need to drink because that's a group drink because that was brutal yeah I drink to live trying on that one okay I'll go I was really hoping Harriel would tell me that she was going to stop on time to figure out mine I'm gonna okay I'm gonna I'm gonna think now um I hated I well I hated coffee until my senior year college I have three dogs and I have a brother that's 13 years younger than me the last one the dogs you have two dogs right yeah I have two dogs oh I didn't have coffee I didn't have coffee until so my senior year internship with the Yankees I got there was and like it was right across the street from a dunk in a Yankee stadium and all my in like the people that worked at Yankee Stadium they would go get coffee all the time they said you want to come I said now I hate coffee they said how do you hate coffee I said I just hate coffee I was a really picky eater growing up um and they said okay you have to come with us because if you think you're gonna make it in the sports business without drinking coffee you might as well just go find a new job and I said what do you mean they said you're gonna work crazy hours you need to drink coffee so the guys at Yankee Stadium would literally buy me a coffee every day until I liked it like didn't even make me spend the money they just bought me a coffee every day and said keep drinking it until you like it I will say I started working in local news at 2 a.m I didn't have a couple coffee so I was I think 20 years old and that's when I finally came I was like too early I've got to say it hot take Duncan's Duncan's Duncan is so much more elite than Starbucks period I don't need either of them to be honest so I'll tell you I like Starbucks tea and I like Duncan coffee Starbucks I can't drink Starbucks it's called the flu bomb oh the the sick tea yes yes I went off to them recently was like can I have the flu bomb just got to like the taste of it and then they asked me if you had COVID too because they probably like freaked out if you if you asked for it nowadays it's not on the menu anymore and I'm like yeah it is you know what the ingredients are like you have all of it just just make it for me all right on Twitch Sbrunner17 says y'all need to prepare for this by y'all he means Olivia and Sbrunner you couldn't be more correct I am sorry that was a big failure on my end two-person a lie way harder than I thought it was gonna be honest all right all right I'm gonna let's get my second one out here okay I named all my pet rabbits growing up the same exact named Flopsy I was on academic probation a freshman year because of dress code violations I once had the Eagles mascot show up to my birthday party the Eagles mascot yes right that's a lie I could totally see the dress code violation thing I could totally see every violating that would you say sorry you guys are skipping out of my ear what was that last comment I said I could totally see you getting in trouble for dress code violations in school I had a 4.0 I was on student council I did every sport and here I was on academic probation because I had 28 demerits but what would happen at my school is if your shoe was untied you get 5 demerits in detention which means you go Saturday and you have to pay to go to detention it's pay 10 dollars so every for what what did they put that towards I have no idea and if they take your cell phone if they see it it's 20 bucks so I had to pay probably a couple hundred bucks in high school even if they saw it after school then we're allowed to see it at all in a bag nothing but that's besides the point okay live your up let's try to get a good one here okay give me two seconds because I had them in my brain is the first one you want me to go yeah you go because I'm close I have them I have them okay um let me okay um I got lunch detention from every teacher I had in middle school um I let's see I just got an apartment in Manhattan and I one more I'm so bad while the everyone's on twitch is going to be mad at me um you guys are actually like it's I know I didn't think I had it what is wrong with you okay okay I know it's a bad game I should have planned better okay so I got lunch attention from everyone in in middle school I just got an apartment in Manhattan today and I absolutely um let me ah I can't be the last one what do I want to do I thought I had it in my head but now I don't um um um um um damn this is hard it is this is really hard um aren't individuals it's too true I know I know this is really not it shouldn't be as hard as it is oh okay and I um almost died in a category for hurricane Jesus I hope throughout the other I hope that's the lie is that the lie yeah is that the lie no um I actually was in a category for mandatory evacuation hurricane in local news in Newport North Carolina and I had to cover it and I it was brutal I thought I was like literally like in tornadoes and I thought I was gonna die um so yeah so my lie was I didn't get lunch attention from everyone in middle school but I did for every teacher in sixth grade like literally made my rounds in sixth grade but then I got better by the time I had to write a note to the teachers starting in seventh grade and then my parents got mad so that's that ended well I guess Liv and I are drinking to that because we both got along there cheers that was the craziest experience I ever had I tell everyone about it I will never live in this out again yeah no I would not I would not be a fan of that okay I love tomatoes I had a pet turtle growing up I had two stalkers in college where the police had to get involved you love tomatoes I don't like tomatoes there you go that was a lie I haven't even thought about food I should have thought about food you know what it is I'm a big texture person so like tomatoes like especially the round let's be one more round the round tomatoes that like pop when you bite them like make me want to hurl like I don't know what it is it makes me sick but yeah I'm not I'm not a tomato girl and I'm also not a mushroom girl those are two foods where I'm just like yeah I'm good I'm a big texture person like I can't eat any fruit unless it's in a blender blended like I can't physically eat a banana it has to has to be chopped up all right last round guys okay I've got mine written down now so I'm good to go I'm making mine all sports oriented okay okay um I only have one cousin I can't live without coffee and I can do a one-handed cartwheel lies you can do a one-handed cartwheel you cannot no I can do that and I'll film it for you after I'm also double dribble which we've found out before this show which I will not do on camera because I feel like that will surface somewhere I have 32 younger cousins than me on just my dad's side my dad's one of nine so I have an insane amount of cousins oh my god and I'm the oldest girl so I have a cousin at every single solitary age beneath me and I'm 25 some have double obviously oh my god Christmas yeah that's a big Christmas thousands of kids and just because my grandma really goes all out for Christmas and she gives everyone like multiple gifts so the tree is so insane and our house is not big so we're all like starting I have a total of three cousins on both sides that's crazy to me that's crazy too I feel like I have a very normal amount I have like five or six on each side what that's normal yeah I feel like that's normal oh that's oh okay it's like two or three kids per there's like my grandparents on each side had three kids and each of the three kids have two to three kids well my dad's one of nine his mom's one of 12 and his dad's one of six and then so we have like thousands and thousands of Dolan's and points and oh gosh there's nothing less but okay Lev you're up woo wee okay hold on I have mine down if you want me to go yeah you go okay I just need one more and then I'm good the first time that I bet on something was the 2000 Super Bowl I played baseball with Derek Jeter and I met Ray Lewis you didn't play baseball with Derek Jeter yeah Derek Jeter for sure nope it was I've never met Ray Lewis oh I would have thought that as Ravens yeah my bat mitzvah present my when I was getting bat mitzvah my grandparents found a baseball clinic with Derek Jeter Ron Ghidry and Tino Martinez and they paid for me to go to this baseball clinic so for like three hours I played baseball with Derek Jeter and it was the sickest thing ever and by the way Arielle is a huge major league baseball fan that is like that is your cup of tea is that your favorite sport in general to like bet on cover and everything or do you have a preference it's hard because I can't watch baseball every day the way that I watch like I could watch a full day of football because it's like the ones or you know three times a week baseball it's harder for me to watch full games like all the time but when it comes to my love baseball was where I got my first love my grandfather and my dad started taking me to games when I was little and I started loving baseball with because of Derek Jeter then after their Derek Jeter love everyone fell in love with in sync in the backstreet boys and I just like fell in love with Derek Jeter went to all the game I mean I would watch every single game then my dad had all his friends over like when I was maybe like a year or two after I became a big Yankees fan and they were watching football I just hated that you know I loved that I was able to now watch baseball with everyone and know everything about the sport and I felt so cool and included my dad thought it was cool that I knew everything but I didn't know anything about football yet it was only baseball that I knew so my dad got me an Xbox and I started playing like Madden and MLB2K and all that stuff and I learned football through playing Madden on Xbox I learned like being out in Shotgun I learned pistol formation I learned the defense it's three four zone all that stuff all through just playing video games so I remember I went upstairs and my dad was watching with his friends and I said oh Kyle Bowler's out in Shotgun my dad said hell the hell do you know that I don't know I just do yeah so I work on that's a cool way to learn sports right there it is I think I learned how to drive through video games too like when I first got behind the wheel like I didn't think it was so hard I did it I was crashing and everything so Ariel's a really bad driver you guys because her driver's Ed was a video game but it's really like a typical New Yorker okay I have mine the first one is I have lived through a school shooting the second one is I eat a tiny piece of chocolate every night and the third one is I am allergic to cockroaches what allergic to cockroaches and how do you know that yeah how would anyone know they're allergic to cockroaches you both have to drink I am allergic to cockroaches I got one of those I got one of those allergy tests wait we were right and they can drink no she is allergic to cockroaches I am allergic to cockroaches so you don't eat chocolate I don't eat chocolate oh oh oh sorry sorry sorry you are allergic sorry sorry that was my bad you don't like chocolate no I'm I will eat it. It's not like I'm like roast out by it. But like if there's a bag of chips versus a candy bar I will always go for the salty. I should have known about this. Me and love talked about this on the phone the one time She's like, do you ever crave salty? Like we have the most random conversations, but that was one of them I'm not a big sweets person. But yes, the reason that I know I'm allergic to cockroaches I know that is the most random thing in the whole planet But I'm telling you I had to get one of those big allergy tests because I I really do have really bad Eczema when I was a little girl. It was like painful like all over my body so bad And so I had to go get one of those allergy tests and they test you for bees grass cats all these different things But cockroaches was one of them and it swelled up bigger than anything else along with cats and I have two cats so Obviously I'm allergic to cats and it is what it is but cockroaches like one who tests for that two I've never been tested for that Is not effing weird you couldn't go to my high school. My high school was like infested with cockroaches was disgusting I just get all swollen No, seriously, see I literally am allergic to cockroaches the weirdest thing ever I did live through a school shooting varies very traumatizing and I don't really love chocolate All right. I'm like chocolate the one I couldn't give up give up. I couldn't I might have to I might put chocolate over coffee Honestly, no, that would be tough. That'd be tough for me because it was so we just had yam kippur Which in the Jewish religion you have to fast for 24 hours and this was just on thursday My mom and I we woke up in the morning and we said all we wanted was a coffee Like we could have made it through the whole day without eating We could have made it the whole day probably even without water We just caffeine, right? You just like you can't eat or drink the whole day like not even water It was more just you wait. I saw your tweet about this air and like you woke up this morning And you tweeted like I wake up for coffee The only reason I wake like actually physically moved from the bed after watching a few tiktoks is to get my coffee Right I had no inspiration to wake up in the morning because I couldn't go get my coffee It sounds so uninspired. We're like the only thing that gets us out of out of bed is coffee It's not work. It's not our family. It's not our dogs. It's the cup of coffee It's not love for life. It's just the coffee It's just a straight up call. I have to address the chat. There's kind of some funny things going on in here. Um someone says Fast forward live mary's an exterminator Uh, that would be pretty funny. Um, I'm seeing if there's anything I don't want to just ask me on youtube. Are you related to richard dolin? He's a big UFO guy Not that I know of there's many dolens, but I don't know anybody in my family immediately. That's a UFO guy Some person s brunner who has been an og on the twitch stream since the beginning of this show shout out to s brunner 17 He gave us a little truth three or two truths and a lie so we can kind of guess on him One I've been in swimming for 20 years two. I love soccer three. I have been in a commercial You love soccer. I would say I love soccer too. Yeah, I think I love soccer is the lie so s brunner 17 If you tricked us and we didn't Get it right Maybe he's supposed to see us all chug our drink Yes, he doesn't like soccer It's tough to like soccer I give everyone credit who does I cannot watch it unless it's elimination format No, I actually saw two nfl games in wembley stadium And it was cool because we went we did it through penn state But at the time I was like, you know what I'd actually love to be in a soccer stadium like this and actually see it Like that type. Oh, yeah going to a game definitely is different than watching it on tv Like I don't watch it on tv at all. Yeah, like my sister doesn't even and the charge my computer But my sister um doesn't even like my sister doesn't like sports and she was abroad and she went to um One of the soccer matches.  She had the best time She liked it better than any american sporting event. I'm sure it's so electric when you're especially when you're international Isn't it funny when you have siblings that are so so different like my brother probably couldn't name 10 Football teams my brother chris the other one's a hunter. It's so different. Yeah See my brother loves sports betting and I love I got to give a shout out to my brother really quick because I I think that's one thing. He is the only boy He there's three girls and Dawson And he's like we're 20 months apart And so I was kind of nervous when I started this career that he was maybe gonna like Try to like out knowledge me and like put me down, you know, I mean he's my brother, of course But like I was nervous that I was doing something that maybe he would and I have to say he has been So supportive in this job and he has been nothing but like my biggest cheerleader and supporter and he is a really good Sports better. He called the saint Upsetting the Packers and he called the Ravens against the Chiefs. He just has like this weird sixth sense and he always tries to give me a heads up But shout out to my brother Dawson On Monday, actually he's happy birthday Um, but yeah, he is like so supportive of this career and he's actually a great sports better So if you ever want to just DM him and ask him about his gut feeling he's usually pretty on so Funny because I forget because I just have been Betting and playing fantasy but like mostly with the betting stuff And now that I've been in the business for the last few years Forget that it's a whole like 21 and over thing So when I talk about it with my brother who's only 14 I forget like wow, he has a long time till he can legally do this I probably shouldn't like give him so much inside info into how to bet But here he is he's like asking me what the spread is on the game and i'm I'm probably You know what friend and you're gonna need to know this at an older age. So I'll just like this is the big sister role and teach You're giving him the foundation Aaron I know that you wanted to briefly touch before we wrap the show on a little bit of nba talk I think we all three bet on the nba quite a bit. I know I love player props That's kind of how I got into this industry Aaron the gateway drug You're you're great at player props in the nba Aaron You always know your stuff when it comes to the nba and there's some stuff happening Obviously opening day is october 19th. It's right around the corner But Aaron i'm gonna i'm gonna pass it to you because you are a filly girl So I know you have got a strong opinion on all this ben Simmons bs that is going around. Where is he going next? I want to know your thoughts on this because I know you've got some opinions You're a filly girl. So I know you do Yeah, for sure So I originally thought I was kind of being crazy thinking this but then after hearing everybody thinking the same thing And I got so many reactions to my instagram story yesterday saying we totally agree with you preach all this stuff Basically, what I was saying is Simmons still has another four years left on his contract I think he has 174 million 147 million still remaining on that now He the last time we saw him. He could have made that game tying dunk didn't do it He ditched it out. He also Went o for o in the final period in multiple games in the playoffs, which is just completely unacceptable Then we hear the news that he doesn't want to come back. He's basically telling the team He's not going to return at all. He's going to hold out if he doesn't show up to camp He's going to be buying 277 thousand dollars 613 to that And he has a preference of where he wants to go three california teams He wants to go to the warriors lakers or clippers. He's going to stay away from the kings Again, this is all his preference and from what I've heard is that these teams Meaning the warriors lakers and clippers aren't really aligning and wanting to grab him and at the same time The sixers don't have to trade him. This is just a request that he's making to me I just think it's a total immature move especially considering the contract that he has I think it's kind of a cop out that he's blaming Philly fans because we boo everybody dwell and bead included and then he turned around and had a great season Almost one mbp I would make the argument if he didn't of course get injured for I believe 20 or 20 plus games, but Just from a philadelphia perspective. I'm really disappointed in this. I'm not surprised I've been a ben Simmons hater for a while now, but this just kind of expedited how much Philly in as a whole is not going to accept him and I know that the sixers can bring him back The problem is is ben Simmons walks in walls fargo.  There's no doubt in my mind, but it's just a matter now Where can he go? Where can we get value for him? And I I haven't read any reports that make a lot of sense in my mind yet Obviously, I'd love to get a dami lilor to broadly be all type situation, but I don't see that happening right away I so listen my take on this and again Completely unbiased because I don't have any sort of I mean I do have a few words to say to the philly the playoff 76ers team that lost me a whole lot of money, but we'll get to that at a different date Uh, but either way, I think with this ben Simmons stuff What kind of doesn't sit right to me is dude You're not good enough to have the attitude that you have right now You're just simply not if you were this player and again, I don't ever think you should have a cocky attitude I deserve better These players make a lot of money more money than they Probably should make based off of like normal societal like norms. It's absurd how much money these players make You are not good enough to have this. I'm better than you attitude. I just don't understand it I don't think commentators think it. I don't think players think it. I don't think coaches think it That's why I'm just like you were not Kobe. You were not Michael Jordan. You were not LeBron James. Why are you calling any thoughts? You're not and and he's on instagram He's in this weird phase of off season where he's on instagram Flexing his nice cars and he's just kind of got this this year. It works out in front of their cars Like it's just one of those things he's out there benching. I'm like, but you don't it's Ben Simmons if you made a cut if you made At least 10 points a game. I would have no beef with you right now I'd say whatever he's got a bad attitude moving on You have lost me so much money.  I know that seems harsh and it's a little aggressive But I just don't think he's good enough to have this attitude and I think his attitude in the off season Is really going to affect which teams actually want to bring him on board I mean, we've seen what bad attitudes do to teams Kyrie Irving when he shows up with a bad attitude the team crumbles no matter how much talent is there You one bad seed will ruin the entire batch So I just I think that he he's got to get this attitude under control and he needs to be humbled I don't know who's going to humble him But it needs to be a team that looks at him and says you're not hot shit sit down Take a seat relax. Know who you are and calm down. I know that seems aggressive But it's just he's not good enough to act the way he's acting and it's just the way you see You see what a lot of players across the NBA do and he sees that it's been Acceptable and it's worked for so many of the players that between him and his agent He's thinking i'm gonna do the same thing That's the problem when you see the leaders of a league act a certain way Everyone else below you is going to do that and it's not just the NBA. It's just anywhere in general It all starts from the top You just that's that's the problem with the NBA is just seeing the way that a lot of these athletes act They feel then anyone who's even below them feels they are entitled to acting the same way Now granted Ben Simmons could take this approach and saying i'm so miserable here. I have absolutely zero I don't care if I play even this year if no one wants to take me that's fine But i'm not showing up and then he's gonna get fined up the wazoo for it He may be that miserable and that's on him but A normal person can't do this and that's where I think athletes lose a lot of They lose sight of reality where if you are a normal person in a normal job You can't just say i'm not showing up to work today.  It's not like he was on a team that didn't help him For god sakes like I don't understand even I'm more embarrassed about doc rivers going on first take this morning clarifying some of the comments he made saying We want ben we want ben like I know we're in a situation where the only way that we're going to win Both sides are going to win if ben Simmons just shows up and plays and shoots the ball Unfortunately, he's not going to do that so the sixers are kind of getting back into a corner Attack look what happened look what happened with james harden They tried to play the same hardball with him in houston last year. It didn't work out They ended up trading him that probably could happen again. They're just gonna sit there and say we need the money He's not showing up. He's making our organization miserable What is your perspective both of you genuinely of i'm not i'm not saying one particular athlete But athletes in general who do do this like let's say you're a fan of someone Like the harden thing was interesting because houston was like happy. They were like good for you We love you you go figure it out philly like has a priority We're not supportive. We have a houston going to let harden go Harden put the same thing last year.  There is no going back to this sixers team He has he has the damage is done. But if somebody doubted you you would just go work on it Like yes when you're not an arrogant entitled little brat you would but he is an arrogant entitled little brat that Wants money and wants to be put on a pedestal without working for it That is entitlement that is arrogance that is bratty and he is going to get humbled It's just going to take the right coach and the right teammates who look at him and go bro We're on the same level as you if not better take a seat He needs to take a seat is what he needs to do and I mean, I don't know I think if I had philly fans breathing down my neck because I was missing free throws I'd be in the gym every single day for the rest of the month working on my free throws instead He boo-hooed and said they're mean to me.   All right, and it's wild that warriors I know trust me. How do you think I feel when I have to go into the actual watch them play? Yeah, and also just letting people know right now odds are up right now for rare Ben Simmons next We will be it's in the colorado Fandal sports book one you can't bet that right now in pa. I'm currently in pa. That's why I'm saying that But it is interesting. Yeah, look you're lucky Plus. Yeah, you get all the fun mark. You get all the fun bets every time Yeah, we don't get those out here at yeast We're fun Mountain time shout out to mountain time Mountain time. Oh my god. Like what is mountain time? I'm just kidding. To be honest with you I've actually said this before I'm like mountain time is actually in my opinion the perfect time zone for sports because it's not too early Like Pacific sometimes the games are starting in dinner time. Like mountain time is perfect You've had your dinner. It's still a little light outside. It's not too late in the night when the game ends But mountain time. I I don't think some people even know it exists. It's like the most Random time zone. It's weird. So random Lastly, I just want to address real quick on the youtube chat this person poo puncher I'm not sure if you're saying me or live or ariela. Whoever this is geared towards This lady has no idea what she's talking about. He's not a bad player Second second in defensive player of the year voting last year. Yes.  If you decide not to shoot You should not be sorry I'm sorry. I'm And let me read this. Simmons did not attempt to shot in the fourth quarter in game two He didn't did the same in games four through seven Oh for oh in the final period now one single shot in the fourth quarter over five playoff games Including a game tying one in game seven eastern conference semifinals. We lost the Atlanta hawks at home That's my final take. I don't want to talk anymore about it So In the chat that was just roasting me because I think it was me because I was running my mouth for a long time All I've got to say is go ahead and take ben Simmons player props for the rest of the year and see how many units You're up. Just go ahead and do that and then you can come back to me and tell me that we were wrong Get the over on every single player prop in the fandal sports book And come back to me at the end of the season and tell me how many units you're up I promise you the conversation will look a whole lot different. Okay.  I'm hot ben Simmons just made me totally hot But before we go can we toss out there? Maybe a lean for the nfl sunday slate because I know Obviously, there's been some lying movements. I know That I've got a couple leans. I would say my I'm still kind of waiting for some movements on the spreads because as you guys know, they'll change up until literally kick off So I get a little nervous this early in the week But I will say Over 49 and a half in the ravens lions game is definitely a bet that I am writing I think that's my favorite one right now two teams with bottom 15 defense and teams that know how to score I just I like this to be a high scoring match up between the two I've gotten numbers to back it But I'll leave it there. I like the over 49 and a half In the ravens lions match up Early lean I know we like the packers of an hour talking plus three and a half for them I'm not giving any of my picks so closer to saturday That's why I slept with a total because I know the spreads. I'm still not like convinced on a lot of them But yeah, I would say that from a prop perspective Probably just go back until you have a reason not to the cooper cup longest receptions prop The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, although they were known for having a really good defense last year They were number one in run defense They were more average when it came to the passing game and in the games the last two weeks They've been allowing a lot more deep balls cooper cup has gone over his longest receptions prop in both weeks one and two He's met steppard's favorite receiver right now. That would be where my eye goes first on this list Love hey, I love that little mic drop moment. I was all right guys. Well, this has been fun Thank you to everyone who tuned in on youtube and twitch. Thank you So much the prop queers for coming in. Are we doing a little cheers? We are to that Cheers to cheers to girls. We bet. Yes. All right. No sports. I love it. Cheers We'll see you guys next week for episode 4a 30 p.m. Eastern Bye