Okay, recording is on. Welcome back to the second hour on BC 2 on 3, the end times. So we'll get started by having Samuel ask his question. Samuel please. Thank you, Pastor. More of a comment, Pastor, which I experienced from first and second semesters to where, when we learn Holy Spirit and gift of tongues. So we learn something in the class but when I was talking to other people that's when I realized that there are other divisions and some of them don't believe in the gift of tongues and the reason they have. So while you're presenting pre-tribulation, presenting, also spending not much, a little bit of time into why would there be a school of thought that doesn't agree with what you bring upon, what part of the scripture is missing? Oh, Samuel, I kind of couldn't hear everything you said. Let me try to repeat what I was able to get. I think you said that when we talked about in the Holy Spirit course in the first year, we talked about the Holy Spirit speaking in tongues and so on. But then you also found out that there are other views on that. And then what were you saying? I kind of didn't get it clear. Can you hear me? Okay now, Pastor. So in the same context, Pastor, when you present a pre-tribulation theory, I think for me at least, because I don't right now have a particular standing, but probably I was thinking it would be helpful to know why the other school of thought exists, what parts of scripture has been, I think, interpreted differently. So, you know, we go with one understanding, but then only when we encounter someone with a different understanding and they show certain scriptures, it kind of creates a bottleneck confusion. So if there is in the scope of this course to also see why some people wouldn't agree and what would be their statement of confirmation, I think that would also help me understand. Okay, sure. So as we go along in the course, as we progress in the course, I will definitely highlight, you know, why certain people would have a different position based on certain scripture texts and why do we differ from that or differ from that point of view. So I will definitely highlight that, but yeah, but what we won't be able to do is delve in depth, you know, on each of the views, because that will make it like very, very long and also sometimes perhaps very confusing. But I will definitely highlight and say, okay, you know, here's one reason why there are people, somebody would say there's a mid-tribulation fracture instead of pre-tribulation. For example, when you come to Revelation 14, you will find that there's a Jewish people are caught up there into the heavens and they refer to as the first fruits and so some people use that text in Revelation 14 to talk about a mid-tribulation fracture. And then you come back to Revelation 20 and people may use the text over there to talk about that as one of the texts to talk about a post-tribulation. So I'll highlight those things as we go along, but it'll be more comments and passing rather than points of emphasis. Okay, I will do that. Okay, so any other questions before we continue forward? Alright, so let's go back to the PDF that we were looking at. Just to, as we more again, just lay the foundation introduction to this whole thing. So in our approach to studying the end times, as I was mentioning point number three, there is openness, meaning we are aware that there are different positions. But I'm also stating upfront the position that I'm coming from or from which this course is going to be presented because of my own persuasion of it. And but then we are open to listening to other positions and so on. Okay, and so what are the positions? What are the different positions? These are just the main ones. Okay, there's not all that they're just just so many other other kinds of positions people take. Anyway, so the main one. So the dispensational pre-millennium. So it means we are supporting two things. We're supporting a dispensational understanding of scripture, and I will explain that a little later on. That means dispensation simply means ages or time periods. Right, so we are saying that in God in the outworking of God's plan with the human race, there are distinct dispensations or ages or time periods. So for instance, right now, we are in the dispensation of the church or the church age or the time period of the church. That's the meaning of the word dispensational. We explain it a little later on. Okay, and pre-millennialism. That means there is the millennia, the thousand year reign of Christ. We believe in that, a literal thousand year reign of Christ. And we also believe in pre-millennialism. That means before the reign of Christ is going to be the tribulation, but we also believe in a pre-tribulation return of Christ for the church, the rapture of the church. Okay, so that means what we're saying is there's going to be the rapture of the church, then the tribulation, then the thousand year reign of Christ. Right, so that's in summary, disposition, that is dispensational pre-millennialism. Then there is a different position, which has been referred to as historical pre-millennialism because this was a position or held by some of the early church fathers, including Irene's Polycop, Justin Martyr, so on. So what did they think? They understood that the return of Christ would be just before the millennial, the thousand year reign, but it would be at the end of the seven year tribulation. So in modern terms, it would be referred to as post-tribulation pre-millennialism. So historical pre-millennialism is the same as what we would refer to as a post-tribulation. So they understood as the church will go through the seven year tribulation, then Jesus would come and usher in the thousand year reign. So that was the traditional understanding. And so I will explain as we go along why we believe in, why we differ from this. Why do we believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the church and why we take that position? I will explain that and give you reasons. Then there's another position. Now, don't get confused by all this.  And that's why there are these different positions. But generally, we all agree on the coming of Christ on the fact that there is going to be a tribulation. There is going to be a millennial reign. And we all agree with that. The post-millennialism believe that this millennial is not a literal thousand year reign where he will rule, but they believe that it's the gradual, progressive spread of the gospel throughout the earth, which is happening. And then Christ will return at the end of this, you know, this so called, I mean, they don't look at it as a literal thousand year. So we just a millennial. It's thousands of years where the gospel is going to be spreading and the gospel will increase all over the earth. And then Jesus will come and he will, you know, the great white throne judgment will happen. So that's the position of the post-millennialism. So basically, they look at the thousand years, thousand year reign, which Revelation 20 talks about. Not as a literal thousand year reign, but as a time period where the gospel is being extended on the earth into the lives of people. And then after that time period is over, Jesus will return. That's this position. And the last one that just to be aware of is what is referred to as a millennialism. That means it doesn't mean that they don't believe in the millennial reign. What they believe is in enough millennial reign, that means it's happening from the time the church that Jesus defeated, Jesus rose from the dead on. He's reigning, but he's reigning through his church. And then, you know, we just move into this time when Satan will be taken out of the way and we move into the eternal kingdom. So they're looking at it as from the resurrection of Christ on. So it almost, it's like a millennialism, meaning they don't believe in the millennial. But what they are saying is, from the time Christ rose from the dead, his reign began and it will continue. And then he will just usher us into, he will take care of the wicked and he will usher us into the eternity future. So it's in one sense, this whole thousand year reign is, it's like it started off from the resurrection of Christ. And it will continue through till the end of this age and Christ will come, judge of it, all of us and take us into eternal. So that's another position.  It's okay. We're not going to argue and fight with each other on this. But of course, there are certain things we cannot compromise. That means we cannot compromise on the reality of God's kingdom. And so I just listed some other things here, right? See, we cannot compromise on these things. That means there is the nation of Israel. There is the church. There's this covenant of grace. God has this covenant people. We all have one hope, one faith, one Lord, one spirit. Christ will return. That's clearly stated in the Bible. Now, we may differ on when he returns on our understanding of when he returned, but he's going to return. There is going to be the resurrection of the dead. The Bible states that very clearly people are going to be judged. Bible states it very clearly. There are going to be new heavens and new earth, very clear. So these are things we cannot take away. It's there in scripture. Then these things or, you know, the sequence of events people may defer in their views. And as we read scripture, you'll understand why. But the fact is these, the things that are stated are stated and will happen. So we can't do away with that. Christ will return. There will be the judgment. There will be new heavens in the new earth. And also looking back, Jesus is Lord. His work on the cross cannot be negated and people have to receive him as saviour. And there is the responsibility of the great commission. So these are things we cannot compromise. We hold to these as truth, but we will definitely be open to, you know, people who have different views and positions. Now, as I stated earlier, the approach we are coming from our position is dispensational premillennialism. So we're talking about understanding God's working with the human race in terms of ages and dispensations. And we believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the church. So just to explain to us the dispensation, so we believe that when God's working with the human race, there are ages. There was the time of innocence before the fall. There was a time of conscience until the flood. Then there was human government and the promise given to Abraham, bringing up, taking, going through all the way till Moses came. Then the law was given, Moses to Christ. And Christ came, he assured in grace, what we refer to the age of grace or the church age. And then we also believe in the millennium, the kingdom age, when Christ would rule physically on earth as king. So these are just broadly speaking, broad ages or time periods of God's dealing with man. And we believe in this. So it's called dispensation or dispensational. So we do believe in a literal thousand year reign of Christ. We believe in that. He is actually going to reign on earth for a thousand years and we see that in scripture. So dispensational view, a dispensational view. And then three millennium, that means we believe in the pre-tribulation rapture of the church. A couple of other thoughts to keep in mind as we study Bible prophecy is we will take a complete view of scripture. So when we look at an event, we want to look at all the scriptures that speak about that event, rather than looking at things in isolation. Example, when we talk about the Antichrist entering into the temple, then we need to read what Daniel said about this man, because Daniel wrote about, or Daniel prophesied, Daniel wrote. We need to read what Jesus said about this abomination of desolation, referring to the Antichrist. We need to read what Paul wrote in 2 Thessalonians chapter 1 and 2 about the abomination of desolation and read what John wrote in Revelation about the abomination of desolation. So in trying to understand what the Antichrist, we have to look at all the scriptures that speak about the Antichrist. So we don't just take Revelation in isolation to understand the Antichrist. No, because Daniel spoke about it, Jesus spoke about it, Paul wrote about it, and Revelation, John writes about it. So we put all of that together to understand, okay, here's what the Antichrist will do. Because if you take just any one of these passages in isolation to formulate what the Antichrist will do, then we could go off on a tangent, but we could just say things that may not be in agreement to the entirety of scripture. Very interesting for instance, Daniel pinpoints to us where the Antichrist will come from. You know, he talks about the Roman Empire, which was broken down into, which later on was taken on by the Greek, Alexander the Great, the Greek Empire, which was later on broken down into four parts. And then he says, from one of these four parts comes this little horn who then overpowers the others and becomes the Antichrist. So we can actually look at Daniel's text and narrow it down and say, hey, this was where the Greek Empire was. And sure enough, after Alexander the Great died, whom Daniel prophesied about, his empire was divided into four parts exactly as Daniel prophesied about. And so these are the four parts geographically today from which this Antichrist is going to come from. So we have that information, and then you'll find other things which Jesus spoke about, Paul spoke about, John spoke about, and then we put all together and say, okay, this is what we can say about the Antichrist. So we're going to do that. We're going to take a complete view on scripture as we interpret. Number five is we want to look at both the Old and the New Testament. So end time prophecy should be understood with both the Old and the New together. So we need to keep these together as we study end time prophecy because you'll find not only is Daniel right about it, but there's prophecy in Isaiah, in Jeremiah, in Ezekiel, in Zechariah, in Joel. All these have end time prophecies. And so we need to look at all those scriptures as we understand end time prophecies. Number six, we want to use biblical typology. So I kind of mentioned this earlier that when there are these figures, images important, stay with what the scriptures say about it. So for example, and I may have mentioned this in our course on hermeneutics last, I forget, one of the earliest semesters. For example, Revelation 17 talks about Mystery Babylon, this woman who sits on the waters, on the seas. So it's okay, what is this waters? Then in that same chapter, but in a later verse in verse 15, it says, Well, the waters and the seas represents peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues. So in that same chapter, there's the interpretation of what is the water? Or what is the seas? It is representing nations, people around the world. So we interpret, so we can interpret waters and seas as nations, because it's already interpreted for us in scripture. There's one example, but like this, the typology or the image should be interpreted within the constraints of scripture. Number seven, we also want to recognize that there are different timeframes in a single text, even sometimes in a single verse of scripture. And that means in one verse of scripture, there will be things spoken of in one period of time, something stated, which was supposed to happen in another period of time. A classic example, which we refer to often is Isaiah 9, 6 and 7.  That's going to happen later on, but it's in one verse. So Jesus was born 2000 years ago, but him carrying the government literally on his shoulder will happen in time to come. And we also see, for instance, we will look in Isaiah 65, a very interesting passage. It's talking about new heavens and a new earth, and then it's talking about how things will look in the millennium. So it's all in one passage, but it's talking about two different time periods. It's talking about a time period in the millennium, and it's talking about a time period in the new heavens and the new earth. But it's given as one portion of scripture, and we need to recognize different timeframes. When we see it clearly and we have to interpret it in the rest of scripture along with Revelation. So that's something we must learn to do. Another important thing we have to keep in mind is to recognize near and far fulfillment. So there is an immediate fulfillment, and there is also a future fulfillment of things that will happen. So this example of this would be in Ezekiel, when it's talking about Israel coming back into their own land from captivity. But it's also referring to about a future regathering of Israel as a nation in their own land. And so these are given to us in chapters one alongside each other. And we need to look at it and say, okay, so this is immediate fulfillment. This is future fulfillment for these reasons. So we need to recognize that as well. And lastly, I just want to mention that there could be unexpected ways for fulfillment that God may surprise us that how this is going to be fulfilled. An example would be in Revelation chapter 11. It's talking about the two witnesses whom God will send. And they will be ministering towards the second half of the seven year tribulation. So they come on the scene in Revelation 11 when the temple has been desecrated. And Revelation chapter 11 takes us through the ministry of these two witnesses. And then it says there that when they are killed and their bodies are on the streets in Jerusalem, it says the whole world will see them. Now, maybe 50 years ago, how would that happen? It's like, hey, how can the whole world see two people who are dead in the streets of Jerusalem? But today, not today, but maybe with time, 30 years ago or something like that, with television and subsequently with the internet and so on, and with the communications that we have, sure, if two people are lying dead in Jerusalem, the whole world can see them because of the technology we have. But maybe 50 years ago, 100 years ago, that would not be possible. But now we can see that some of the things stated in Revelation 11 can actually happen in our time. Now, this is an unexpected way, but it actually will be a fulfillment of Bible prophecy. So just keep ourselves, minds open to those things. And lastly, it is true that our understanding of the timing of certain things can change. As things become clearer, they may be possible to change. So I don't want to say that my way is the right way. We don't want to do that, but we want to do it very humbly, respectfully, and say that this is why we believe what we believe things will happen in this sequence of events. Okay. Last two things just before we close up this chapter is some things we don't subscribe to. There is a position, like I said, I may have mentioned this a little earlier. There is a position where pre-terrorism, where they say that all the prophecies concerning the last days were fulfilled in the first century starting on from there. It's all done over. And so we don't subscribe to that, obviously. Otherwise, you know, we won't be looking into the future, looking at how these prophecies could be fulfilled. There's another position, often referred to as Dominion Theology, where they believe that it's kind of a derivative of, you know, some of the earlier positions where they believe that the church is going to be the one taking dominion over the nations. And Jesus is going to rule through the church. And so, you know, when it talks about the Millennial Kingdom, it's really talking about the church being in charge. And so the church must go in and take over all the nations and apostles will govern the nations. So, you know, this more or less has died out, but you might hear about it in some places, but we don't subscribe to that. We believe in Jesus coming back literally to rule and reign on the earth. And he's not going to be, of course, the saints are going to serve under him in the kingdom. But it is Jesus who's going to be here on the earth, rolling and raining. Let me pause here. This may be a little heavy. Are you all with me so far? Don't worry. It's not going to be always this heavy. Everyone's fine? Okay. Yeah, we are with you. Okay. Okay. Thanks. Thanks. Let me look at the questions that have come in. There is Divya's question. So these different views are based on the views regarding the timeline of rapture with regard to the Millennial Rain of Jesus Christ. Is that right? Okay. So for the most part, that is the big difference, Divya. The positioning or the timing of certain events, that's all. So that's why it's called pre-millennial, post-millennial, or pre-trib or mid-trib. It's the slight positioning on when certain events would take place. So based on that, there are these differing views. Generally speaking, that is the main reason for these differing positions. Because like we said, God didn't say, in 80, 20, 40, I will come. And in 80, 20, 70, this will happen. He didn't give us those dates. And that's why there is this room for a differing view. But most people believe in a literal fulfillment of these sequence of events. They believe in the rapture of the church. They believe in Christ coming back. They believe in the resurrection of the dead. They believe in the little reign of Christ. Now some may, like we mentioned today, some may differ in the Millennial Rain. Like we said, some may say, well, it started from his resurrection. Or he's reigning through the church, things like that. But most people believe in a literal thousand-year reign of Christ. Thank you, Christ. Christopher's question. Will there still be a rapture in historical pre-millennialism? The answer is yes, Christopher. The differing part was what they believed was, they believed that the rapture would happen at the end of the tribulation. So that's historical pre-millennialism. It happened at the end of the tribulation before the Millennium. So that's the difference. So the position we are going to be presenting is the rapture takes place before the seven-year tribulation. Historical pre-millennialism believes or believed that the rapture will take place at the end of the tribulation before the Millennium. So that's what their position was. And some people subscribe to that even today. Okay, let's see any more questions. Okay, so Charles, there's, let's say something about replacement theology. So Charles, in a sense, what replacement theology's summary is, the church has replaced Israel. That's in summary. Do we subscribe to it? No. We believe, and Paul brings this out very clearly in Romans chapters 9, 10, 11, that the church has not replaced Israel. But God is working with both the nation of Israel and with the church. And that's why I think in one of the, somewhere in the notes I mentioned that we believe in God is still working with Israel. And God is working with the church, but he's bringing us to become one new man.  But we don't believe that God has taken his hands off of Israel and the church has replaced Israel. No, people you've got are still working with both. And Paul states that very clearly in Romans 9, 10, 11. I said, okay, Charles. Another question from Charles. I hear of the sign of two fingers that Jesus flashed as multiples of two. What is your saying? Sorry, Charles, I haven't heard of that. I don't know what this is. You see the people, like I think it's maybe speculation or something like sensational. They flashed two fingers that when Jesus was leaving the apostles, he flashed two fingers, meaning two days, two weeks. So people kept on waiting for him.  So you have never heard of it. So if they have never then it is no problem. Thank you. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I haven't heard of that. All right, Maggie, what's your question, please? Thank you, sir. The question is on the two witnesses in Jerusalem and the temple. Because it says that when they will be killed, the whole world will see. And that will be after the temple has been discredited. I think that's the right word. The question is if Christ died for us and made the temple useless or unusable, or we don't need the physical temple anymore. So how is it possible that the third temple, that Jewish will build, would be regarded as a holy place by God? And was it, does the Bible here, is using the word temple as a figure or is it literal temple? And secondly, are those two witnesses, are they going to be actually human beings or just another figure of speech that God used to teach us something? Thank you, sir. Okay. All right. So, yeah, this question is really jumping way ahead into the course. And we are going to come to this. We are going to come to it as we go through the sequence of events, we will come to it. But I'll just go ahead and answer your question. So why do we say it's going to be literal temple? Because, okay, let me back up and say this. First of all, Daniel's 70th week. You read about this in Daniel chapter 9, verses 26, 27. Daniel's 70th week, and we will explain this later on when we get into the text of the scripture. The 70th week of Daniel, which is a period of seven weeks or seven years. Daniel's 70th week, period of seven years, deals exclusively with the nation of Israel, or I would say primarily deals with the nation of Israel. So Daniel's 70th week, and as you will read in Daniel chapter 9, verse 26, 27, deals with the nation of Israel. The Bible also calls this the time of Jacob's trouble. That means it's a time, or Jacob, Jacob is Israel, Israel's trouble. So it has to do with the nation of Israel. Now, what happens in the desecration of the temple? Very clearly, Daniel tells us, Jesus tells us, Paul tells us, and Revelation, John tells us. The Antichrist goes into the temple, sets himself up to be worshipped. So it cannot be a figurative thing. It has to be a literal temple. And Daniel specifically says that the sacrifices will be stopped. So that means the sacrifices are going on, and they will be stopped. Revelation 11 again talks about the Gentiles trampling down in the temple. So the Gentiles, the world, people of the world coming in and trampling the temple. So again, there's a literal temple. Plus, when you look past that, when you look into Daniel chapter 12, and also when you look into Ezekiel chapter 40, the last four chapters were Ezekiel. So that is, I think 44 to 48. It talks about this millennial temple, meaning the temple practices are continuing in the millennium. During the thousand-year reign, the temple will be there, and sacrifices will be offered in the temple during the millennium. So it's not only the temple during the tribulation. It has to be a physical temple for these reasons. It has to be desecrated. Sacrifices was being offered. The Gentiles are going to trample down. But you also find the temple in Ezekiel continuing on. Sacrifices continue on during the millennium. So obviously the question is why? Because, like we said earlier, God is working in the church, but he hasn't stopped working with Israel as a nation. And one of the reasons, and Daniel clearly tells us in Daniel 12 about this temple being there, and one of the reasons is the scriptures don't state it, but we can think that probably God is going to use as a constant reminder to the nation of Israel about the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. That's probably a reason why there's going to be a millennial temple with sacrifices continuing during the millennium for this reason. To remind them about the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. So to answer your question, the temple, as we understand it, as we see in the scripture, is a literal temple. The two witnesses are literal people because you find in Revelation 11 describing that they have a ministry that impacts the world. They do signs, wonders and miracles. They are physically killed. The world rejoices at seeing them die. And also because we have other references in Malachi chapter 4 where Malachi says, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great day of the Lord. So we know Malachi said Elijah will come before the coming of the great day of the Lord. And the Lord Jesus also attested to this in Matthew the 17th chapter when he said, Elijah has come and indeed will come. So when he said Elijah has come, he was referring to John the Baptist who came in the spirit and power of Elijah, but he didn't stop there. He said, and he will come. That means Malachi chapter 4 will literally be fulfilled with Elijah coming. So Jesus in Matthew 17 affirmed that Elijah will come. So this has to be the literal Elijah coming back. I hope I answered your question, Maggie. We will look into this as we go forward. Thank you, sir. You answered my question. Thank you, sir. Okay. I think we'll have time for one last question. Divya, what is your question, please? Thank you, Pastor. So it is with regard to Matthew 24, 32 to 35. Here in that reference, the generation that has been mentioned, is it in a different timeframe with respect to what Jesus' time period? Is it an example of a different timeframe or considering the time when Jesus spoke about this? Interesting. Again, we will look at this as one of the signs. And people who study end times like this reference a lot because it kind of gives us some numbers to work with. And I will just put these numbers out for you. I am not telling us to work the math and determine the year, but generally people who study prophecy use this passage to work with numbers. And I'll just tell you what it is. So what Jesus said is he said, when you see the fig tree blossom, the time of the end is near. And that generation will see everything happen. Matthew 24 and we are supposed to, I think we'll read it next week. So the fig tree blossom, fig tree is a symbol of Israel in Bible, in Scripture. So the fig tree blossoming, Israel becoming a nation. So people usually pick one of two dates. Now they either pick the year 1947 or they pick 1967 when Israel recaptured Jerusalem, whatever. So people use either of these two years. And then they add to that one generation, how long is a generation? So some people may say it's 40 years. Some people may say it's 120 years, you know, because of Genesis 6. Okay, whatever. So people play with these numbers, right? So you add 122, 1947, or you had 120 to 1967, or you add 40 years or things like that. And they say, okay, so this is around the time when Christ would come because he said one generation, the generation that sees the fig tree blossom will see everything come to pass. So it is an indicator, you know, to some extent you can play with numbers around that. But we should not get speculative as we mentioned, right? But it's a good indicator that, you know, the generation that sees Israel blossom, that generation will see all these things come to pass. Did I answer your question? Yes, yes. All right. Thank you. Okay. Thanks for question, and we will stop after this. Christopher's question. One of the key sequence of events is the temple being with the Jews, which is now occupied by the Muslims. And then the temple would be desecrated by the Antichrist. This has happened before the rapture. Okay. The answer to this question is we don't know exactly when this will happen. Meaning, so right now we know that in the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, the major part of it is occupied by the Arabs, the Muslims, right? They have the al-Aqsa Mosque that's been built there. And there is the temple dome. The only access the Jews have is to the wall, the western wall, where they can come and pray. But the rest of the Temple Mount is occupied by the Muslims. Now that is where Solomon's temple was. And that is where the third, somewhere there, somewhere there on the Temple Mount, there has to come the third temple. And in that third temple, sacrifices have to restart. And in that third temple, the Antichrist would come and set himself up to be worshiped. So this is a very difficult thing, a very difficult thing. How are the Jews going to have access to the Temple Mount when right now there are two huge monuments belonging to Muslims standing right there? How are they going to get access to it? How is it ever going to be possible? We don't know. But the fact that there is going to be a literal temple, like we just said earlier, is there in Scripture? When exactly is this going to happen? Is it going to happen before the rapture or after the rapture? Again, we don't know. But one thing we do know. As soon as the rapture takes place, Revelation chapter four and five, Revelation chapter six, verse one begins with the emergence of the Antichrist. The first seal that's opened, Revelation six one, is the man riding on a white horse. And that's the Antichrist. So Revelation four and five rapture of the church, Revelation six one, the beginning of the tribulation, the beginning of the seven year. The first thing is the emergence of the Antichrist. Will the temple be in existence at that time? The Bible doesn't tell us clearly. But by the time we reach Revelation 11, the temple is there. Now, one of the things that brings the Antichrist into power is he comes as a man of peace. And he signs a covenant or he signs a treaty of peace. Daniel chapter nine, which means that it is likely that once the Antichrist comes into power, or the thing that brings him to power is his peace treaty. And we don't know what this peace treaty is, but it's something that seems to bring peace to this problem in the Middle East. So we could just speculate or just imagine maybe part of what he does is to facilitate the bringing in of the temple, the restoring of the establishing of the sacrifices. Because it is in his time that the sacrifices are started. And it is three and a half years later in his time that he brings an end to the sacrifices. So we could say that maybe the Antichrist in his emergence to power is somehow instrumental in settling things in some sort of, you know, a seemingly peaceful way between the Jews and the Arabs, which is what brings him into power. But the church has been taken out of the way before that. Right. So my answer to your question, Christopher, is we don't know for sure whether the temple is built before the rapture after the rapture. My guess, it's a guess, it's that it's most likely going to be built after the rapture when the Antichrist comes into power, because he is instrumental in setting up a treaty a covenant of peace and bringing in the sacrifices. So he has a part to play in setting those things up. That's my guess or, you know, my understanding of scripture. Is it okay? All right. We'll pause here for today. We will continue this next week, Charles. I see your question. What is your advice on the temptation of sensationalism and speculation people want to bring? Yeah, just avoid it. You know, study it objectively. Study the scriptures humbly, knowing that we don't know everything. We may not be right on everything, but we are doing our best to understand scripture and intentionally avoid being sensational and speculative on things. Okay. All right, let's pause. Okay. I asked asking question reference for pre-tribulation rapture. So Anita, we will give about 10 references, I think it's coming up in a, in a, in a, in a, in a later chapter. We will go through it in detail. Okay. And I will give you all the notes and references for that. So I tried to prove, prove that. Yeah. Okay. So it'll come up. Let's pause here for today. Please close and prayer and then we will dismiss. Please. Who would like to pray? Well, father, we thank you a lot for today's study. Lord, as we do not know the exact position. What will happen in that time? But we need to come to a best understanding according to the revelation we have received for your word, father. Thank you, Lord, for teaching this, the best understanding for our pastor. Lord, help us to understand in detail in the coming classes about this and time for that. So that we may dwell in the truth of your work. Bless pastor, Lord. I don't think the spirit who teaches rightful. So every one of us may be equipped and have a rightful understanding and best understanding according to scriptures so that we may be established in our faith. And we will have a strong base and a strong conviction, voter about the future events that we will be blessed father in the Assur and we may await your return at all times and watch for your return in this world. In Jesus' name you pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Enjoy the rest of your day. That's the afternoon. I'll see you again. God bless. Bye now.


Hey everyone! Welcome back to Six Sister Stuff. Today I'm sharing with you three delicious and easy apple desserts. I'm Kristen. I am sister number two from SixSisterStuff.com. It is fall time. Now I love fall season. I especially love apple season. Now this last weekend we went up to Apple Hill here in Sacramento, California and they have the best apples. So I thought it would be fun to share with you three of my favorite apple desserts. Now I'm doing this in collaboration with Vanessa over at the Lemonade Mom. I've collaborated with Vanessa before. She's one of my most favorite people and favorite YouTubers. So go over to her site. She's also making three apple recipes for you to check out. Alright you guys let's go make these delicious apple desserts. The first one is called Apple Snickers Salad. Now don't be scared away by this that there are Snickers inside of it because it's delicious. First you're going to add two packages of vanilla pudding. These are the small three ounce packages or you can add one large six ounce package of pudding. Then add one cup of milk. If you don't have any milk you can use water as a substitute if you want to. Then you're just going to blend it together with some beaters. Once it's done it's time to add the good stuff. So the first thing you're going to add is the Cool Whip. So it's just one container of Cool Whip. You're just going to fold in the Cool Whip the best that you can. Now it's time for the apples. I added three chopped up green or granny Smith apples. Then you're going to add six Snickers candy bars or there's something called Snickers Bites that makes your life so easy and you're just going to mix these all together. Now I like to save one Snickers bar to chop up for the very end so I can sprinkle it on top. Now it's ready to serve. Now this next recipe is called Disneyland Copycat Caramel Apple Pie and Kendra is going to show you how to make it. I'm going to start with one pound of sugar cookie cookie dough and I'm going to put it in this big bowl and add about one half cup of flour and I'm just going to combine that to make a pie crust consistency and I find it easiest to mix this with my hands. So I'm just going to press that until it's fully combined and then I'm going to press it into the bottom of a spring form baking pan and I like to do this pan because the sides come off and it just really wows the guests. So I'm just going to press this into the bottom and make sure there are no holes so the pie filling can't get through and make it soggy. Then once that's pressed in we're going to make our pie filling and so this is two and a half pounds of apples, about an eighth cup of flour, a half cup of sugar, and about one and a half teaspoons of apple pie spice and then I'm just going to add a lot of caramel. We add about one and one fourth cups of caramel but I like to add my caramel as I go just so I can see what areas need a little bit more. So I'm just going to mix that in and just add a little more caramel as I go and then just keep mixing. Then I'm going to add my filling to my pie crust. We're just going to put it all in and it's going to get a little high but make sure you add all the apples. Then we're going to cover it with foil and bake and while that's baking we're going to add the crumble that goes on top. So we're going to start with one cup of flour and add a half cup of sugar, a half cup of brown sugar, one teaspoon of vanilla, and one and a half teaspoons of apple pie spice and we're just going to mix that until it's fully combined and then we're going to add a half cup of melted butter and just keep mixing until it reaches this crumbly texture. We're going to put that crumbly texture on top of our pie and then we're going to put it back in the oven to keep baking and when it's done baking remove from the oven and add a little more of the good stuff and go ahead and serve.   I'm going to put a link in the description with the slow cooker recipe. So first I'm going to start with a little pan that will fit right inside my instant pot. You can use a springform pan you can use a glass bowl even if you wanted to. So then I'm going to add a 20 ounce can of apple pie filling and you're going to dump it just right into the bottom of your pan. After that you're going to spread it around the best you can. Then on top of that you're going to add two cups of yellow cake mix. You can also add white cake mix or even a spice cake mix would be delicious. Then just pat it all around. Now you don't want to soak it into the apple but you're going to press it down pretty even someone who put the butter on top it won't spread all in one corner. Okay so I have four tablespoons of butter here that I'm going to spread around the best that I can. You don't want to be mixing it in your cake mix it will cook I promise you're just going to spread it. So now I'm going to add one cup of water inside of my instant pot and if you notice my little trivet thing I don't want my bowl to sit right into the water so it's going to sit right on top of that and that is all you have to do. So now you're just going to take the lid put it on make sure that it's on sealing and not venting there we go sealing and you're going to cook it on manual for 25 minutes. Once it's done you're going to push it over to venting because we're going to do a quick release with this one. Then when it's all done releasing its pressure you can take the lid off and it smells amazing. Once the steam kind of goes away then you can pull it right out. Now I love to make this right as we're eating dinner and so it's all ready to go when dinner is done. I love to add a little bit of ice cream on top or you can add whatever you like to put on your apple dumb cake also known as apple cobbler. All right you guys that's all I have for you today don't forget to go over to Vanessa's channel and tell her that Kristen sent to you. I hope you all have a wonderful day. See you next week! Bye!


our congratulations on the new job and I'm curious because pictures and catchers report little over a month from now how fast you have to just jump in and get things going with the Yankees. Well that's a great question and first of all thank you for having me here but I'm excited to be with the Yankees, excited to be able to work as you saw Brian Savian and you know Brian Caspin of course who's a friend and the staff that's put together there we're all the people with Gene Afterman and everybody else and Jim Hendry but you know it takes time. I've been in an organization you know it takes a little bit of time to kind of be able to get adapted to the organization what I want to probably be doing early on is going to be listening a lot but here we are getting close to spring training and you know that the Major League team and of course you know I've been because of the past couple of years being in New York I've seen the team I've been able to keep an eye on the team follow the team but you know what I do is not only Major League but it's also minor leagues and scouting it's gonna take a little bit of time but you know what an organization like the Yankees that's been run so well for so many years I feel pretty comfortable it'll take some time but it won't take that long for me to adapt to it. Omar you did a Zoom conference call this afternoon where you mentioned that Brian Cashman had courted you in the past and it tried to get you to work for the Yankees in the past what made the timing right about signing on with the Yankees this time? Well Jack like we were talking before it to me the timing was with you know Cash you know has always had interest in me working for him but you know really the last he asked permission in March I turned it down not so much because of the Yankees not so much because for me it's an honor to work with the Yankees is that I had committed to Major League Baseball to the commissioner's office to be involved in a lot of their new initiatives it was early on you know baseball the commissioner's office had a lot of great new initiatives domestically you're talking about the combine that was a success in saying Diego you're talking about college pre-draft leagues post-draft leagues college leagues and then of course the thing that was really hanging over that was the international draft as you know the last agreement basic agreement there was a quote for you know they put a they table the the international draft till July or late July and I was working on that and I still feel comfortable and good that I'm still working on that for Major League Baseball but it wasn't the right time for me to leave Major League Baseball because I committed to them and I didn't want to leave them and committing to them in all the projects that were being done having the great opportunity to work with you know with the people in Major League with Morgan's Ward with John the Angelo's and Rebecca Cecil it's it was I couldn't do that at the time well so many folks know you've had so many important jobs but I do want to focus on last year everything that you've just said working with Major League Baseball you're a guy that's willing to learn how could that even help the Yankees or impact them in 2023 and beyond well I think you're right I think it's very important the way the game is today a lot of the things that are you know especially the Commissioners office a lot of the things that are being done initiatives and all those things I think they can be of help for me in helping the Yankees I think that knowledge of you know of how the system works and you know there's a lot of you know the game is more centralized right now as far as scouting and development but that's been going on for many times whether it's combined and you know all these things even though combines in baseball you've only been gone out for two years but for me I feel that you know having that broad experience that versatile experience can be of help for the Yankees Omar you started your career as a scout with the Texas Rangers you were instrumental in signing Sammy Sosa we know how the game has changed what are some of the keys for an organization to be able to blend in scouting with analytics I think both I think both I think I think the question is no how do you use the information you know what how much weight you give the information to certain areas I think I think it's a good I think it's great that the game has so much knowledge we have so much you know knowledge as far as data are not some places the data may be you know less important than others you know I think baseball is in a great space right now of combining data combining the human element and I'm listening there's no doubt I am a traditional scout but I am also one that I've been around and I've been I've hired so I think some pretty good data people and I don't like throwing names around but I can't help but throw TJ backward names around who's the head guy for the Milwaukee Bucks and he was with a match for many years I just think there's so many so many good young people in the game good young minds in the game you know and the blend of that bringing that together is this is why you see successful organization I think when you look at the successful ones right now I think the Yankees are one when you look how many Wednesday one I think you look at the Dodgers I think you look at the Braves I think you look at a Houston their organizations that they don't you don't lean one way or the other you can't lean one way or the other interesting you could but I don't think that's smart so let me ask you this it sounds like a simple question what makes a good scout but beyond that you're a great talent evaluator I don't want you to teach your own horn necessarily but simply put what makes a great scout well I'm gonna tell you what I was taught by so very senior guys they say you know what makes a good scout when you when you pick a player the player can play you have another player for me the next day the scouts are the ones that keep on giving you players and I'm telling you what how a lot of over the years I've signed some good ones but most of the time if you honest with yourself is when you that player doesn't panned out you better have another one and have the guts to say I got like this guy that's what makes a good scout Omar you have prided yourself at times as being the guy who you said is the contrarian in the room maybe has the opinion that some of the other people sitting at the table don't have how important it is to be that person and when you do have the contrary opinion to make sure you still push hard for it well I think the key to that jack is simple okay you can only have so many contrarians in the room so yes I've been a contrarian I've been you know Jack I've always taken pride I mean over the years whether it was recommending a team or team or Perez that nobody expected that or Melvin Mora or you know whether it's going to be a you know I'm trying to think of guys that over the years that were guys that were off the beat and track guys that were the you know at the end of the day you know you take Jake you take Jake the grom in the six round those things are off you know contrarians ideas you take it he was his shortstopping you make him a pitcher you know and for me the most contrarians idea of all and it's a great story for me and it's not that we were smart it's just sometimes you're lucky it's already dicky I mean I think he was like though he was the 11th pitcher on a 10-man staff and with the matching triple A ended up having a great career after that yeah that worked out great the grom obviously did and I'm glad you brought him up or more because he's now with the Texas Rangers after moving there in the offseason they've made some tremendous signings and moves we know the Astros have been a challenge for the Yankees Blue Jays have made some solid moves how do you think the Yankees this this offseason have positioned themselves going into 2023 I think outstanding I think I said he first of all it's a 99 win team let's be honest and let's listen when you look back at the Yankees I mean it's a 99 win team and then the bullpen went south injuries for Booney to win 99 game for that front office to keep it together I mean earlier on and guys remember we were talking about this team being you know the 98 Yankees and they got hurt so that team got hurt at 199 game that don't get me wrong but I think the acquisitions that have been done I think when you look at first of all you got judge signed and then you you add on down to the mix and I think you know listen it's about pitching I'm a big believer you went with pitching and I think the game you got to be athletic I think the baiter having baiter or the team of all year helps because listen I was I remember talking to cash throughout the years and my god you know you're keeping this guy in center field judging center field you know all year you this guy all it takes is one tweak big body and now you're gonna have you're gonna have judging right you got baiter so I like the team I still believe pitching and I believe in talking to cashmen that the team has not done in acquiring talent then acquiring but to me if we get that bullpen back the way it was the first half watch out


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Our next speaker on the community track is Emmanuel Bakari. He is speaking to us how he got his certified Kubernetes application developer and also how he became a certified Kubernetes administrator. It's an awesome experience to have him here. He's a Linux guru. So Emmanuel, are you ready? Awesome to have you. Yeah, definitely. How's it going? Good morning. Awesome. I'll hand it over to you and we'll be switching the Enterprise channel to Livestream. Over to you, Emmanuel. OK. Hello. Can you hear me? And can you also see my screen? OK. Hello, everyone. OK. Hello, everyone. How's it going? Yes. So my name is Emmanuel Bakari. And I'm an infrastructure engineer. And at the moment, I would be covering details on how I went from not having any Kubernetes certifications to taking up the CKA and CKAD. I took both exams within a period of a week. And it all worked fine. So here's how it actually works. So I'm just going to start off with an intro to what Kubernetes is because I think a lot of people might not really know what it does. So what Kubernetes basically helps you with is covering details on how your infrastructure should be, how you're going to typically move on from getting started with Kubernetes to actually using it. So Kubernetes basically helps to manage your entire application stacks, your networking, storage, all of this within a very, very compact YAMU format that you can pretty much write up. There's quite a lot of documentation about it online. It's a really, really easy process using containers and everything. But then the really good part about it are Kubernetes manages a lot of things that we have done in the past, like scaling up VMs, managing security, managing network interfaces, NATs, DIST, that's everything. It just kind of packs it all together like a really, really nice, as a very nice orchestration engine. So Kubernetes has some certifications because of the fact that the platform is really big. And it's being used across different organizations. Everyone pretty much uses it. It comes to be almost a standard for managing applications, at least from a global scale. So they have certifications that people who are starting off can actually know what they should be heading for, the kind of skills that they should have using Kubernetes, things like OK, fine, how does what are the various components that make Kubernetes work? Was it control manager? Why is that needed, DTC? So the certifications kind of assist you. We can't figure it out. But yeah, I should be focusing a lot on this and working towards getting everything up and going. Yeah. So moving on, we have what the certifications are. And then we have CKA, which is like the Kubernetes administrator certification. So what this is mostly focused on is, OK, I have some cluster somewhere. I'm getting some issues all of a sudden. I can't deploy applications on it. So you're trying to deploy the cluster and you're getting some weird errors, things like that. That's what the main focus for CKA is on. OK, without the application even working, can you actually just get the cluster running? Maximum security, maximum performance, what are the problems you would have, how many nodes do we need, things like that. That's what the CKA is really, really focused on. The CKA, on the other hand, is mostly focused on the application side. So like, OK, I'm deploying my application, what are the things I'll need. OK, I need the application to access another service in a different name space, OK, like network policies to how kind of security do I need. But I still be speaking quite a lot on network policies and later on. So things like what the application really needs. That's what the CKA is majorly focused on. It's also a new one that came out to CKS. I like to say pan-devn because 2020 is kind of like the cost for it at this point. So what the CKS is mostly focused on is the security side of Kubernetes. So in this case, I'm going to be checking out what it should be using. So things like from the node cluster level, I've not really taken so much notes of this particular certification. It's something I'm still prepping on, but it's covering a lot of the nodes security fundamentals, container security, cluster security, and network security, everything altogether so that you can manage both applications and clusters quite nicely on Kubernetes. So the main talk about is more about CKS because so around the CKA and CK, that mostly most of the Kubernetes certifications are actually hard. And to be honest, it actually is because it's a very practical exam. You're going to be working your way around actually typing commands, investigating things. So it's pretty much like you're having some production downtime for real. It's simulated to be in a live environment. That's why it's actually quite endorsed. And I can say that it's a really good exam because after getting both, I kind of got multiple job offers in weeks, which was pretty much a fun thing at one because of the fact that I just had it. So I would really say it's a good idea to actually take the exam. There are a lot of opportunities just having it. So the easiest way to actually pass this is actually by deploying the clusters manually. So a lot of the time, like when you're actually trying to manage your Kubernetes clusters, you mostly start off with getting on using AWS or some cloud provider or something like that. But for this, you're not really going to have to do that. Even during the exams, they do deploy the clusters for you, but they deploy the clusters with 40 configurations and you can never actually fix those problems unless you've actually done it yourself. And speaking from experience, it is quite a lot. So it's almost like you're managing the clusters on-prem. For those who might have done that, it's close to you. The CKS should actually be a lot easier from there. But if not, you do have some things to cover up on. It's particularly important for the CKAs, but it could also then come into the CKADs when things like, oh, you have 40 scheduled configuration and pods just can't start because they can't get scheduled. Things like that. That's where this all comes in handy. The next thing is actually to take courses on Kubernetes. So as opposed to actually a lot of courses, but the one I mostly recommend is CodeCloud. Mostly because of the fact that they have practice tests and instructors doesn't have it, was actually really, really thorough in terms of his explanations of what this does, the various components, how they apply it. And anyways, they can actually use them. So you're not just like doing a course, you're actually doing a practical exam across the course as you move along. And also it's really helped because imagine like you are learning something and you're doing it at the same time. And then you also now have like some simulated environment that's close to the CKAs and CKAD environments that's the exam environment. So it's almost like you are actually practicing to write the exam. So like you have two courses here, the Kubernetes administrator with practice tests and also the certification course which is back in on your own or both of them. So I must have this advice that you use CodeCloud is actually prepared for the CKAs and CKAs. You can't go wrong, I'm taking that. The next thing is to actually practice with a natural platform that was built to help you pass it. So CodeCloud basically has the simulated environments, but the questions don't really cover the full depth of the exam. So why not take a practice exam that is exactly like CKAs? That's what killer.sh really provides. So killer.sh is literally spells killer shell. So what they do there is they basically have resources and some questions that are almost similar to the ones you would actually have in the CKAs and CKAD. When I took them, so I took the CKAs and CKAD like between weeks. So I basically practice for like maybe a month on the CKAs then I use killer.sh a week before my CKAs, I got in 92 there, I did my CKAD, I got in 90 there and then pretty much it just went like that. So killer.sh was actually the CKAs exam. You get proctored, you have a shell, the exact environment like what you see during the CKAs exam. It's the best thing you can actually use for preparing for any of the exams. They also have a CKAs simulation. So it's kind of like everything that you actually need. I always recommend this for anyone that asks about writing an exam because it's really the best. It is a bit pricey, depending on which part of the world you are in. It's about 30 euros. So depending on like how where you are, it's not really that expensive, but the fact that you have three exams in like one single payment and then you can like schedule it over a year, kind of like makes it very easy for you to, you know, take some time, do the cloud courses, take some time, do a test exam and see how you perform. And then down the line in the exams, you'd actually do quite great. And also one of the really good parts that really saved me a ton of time because it's actually, because you have a lot of questions. Some questions carry a lot more parts and you also then have to finish the question with like a certain time limit. So the best thing to do is actually to shorten the commands. I know that this saved me a ton of time because while working through most of the exams and everything I pretty much was able to walk around and get things done, finishing up on everything. So you can shorten the commands. I didn't do an example right here where you can do something like, you know, you can do an alias into your bash R or C and then you can use that command as you move along. This really, really, really helps, especially if you are not faster typing. So like during my CKA, I know I forgot to do this, but I'm pretty fast, so it was pretty easy for me to like walk around, getting everything done. But if you know you're not that fast, then this could be a very, very nice hack to pass the exam. And also then also, because you have a lot of questions. And when you're under tension, typing those long commands and making typos can really offset your mental dynamic and getting like, you know, getting through it. So this is actually really great. And then the last thing is actually to practice. So we quibble me in here, because, you know, it kind of like bands and I'm like into niggles and all that. So practice makes perfect. You actually can't scan the way through this exam. You can't read a couple books, you know. It's not like most certifications exams. This one, they really, really, really have a high priority check on pragmatism. And also you're prompted by an external examiner.  You can't Google some things, but it's very limited to just the docs and API references. So it's not like you can just go up and copy some, you know, YAML. You actually have to learn what's fields are there and the various parts are needed. So you have to really, really practice to pass the exam. But the part that I can say is that if you use killer.sh really well, I really, because you can't really, like you actually have to type most of the commands there. You really would have many issues with going through most of the exams and everything. Just gets started and right to the end. So there's really not much here because it's a lot of work from your end, you got in like working over through the exams, through the test questions, through some of the materials that will be online. And most of the time, if you do check online for like how people pass theirs, there's most times the same advice. But the most times leave out the practice tests platforms, which is what I actually added here. And if you just use those, you're pretty much good to go. Yeah, so if there are no more, if there are any questions, then they'll be a good time. Yeah, go, go. Yeah, how's it going? Okay, any questions? Awesome, yeah, that was an awesome session. Do we have any questions? I think the chat has been posing since. Let's see if there have been any questions. Okay, perfect. It was an awesome session. Okay, how do you manage time? Yeah, no. Okay, so we got in managing time. Okay, someone is asking how you manage your time. Yes, okay, so Radu and Asakra, so we got in managing time. One of the easiest ways to manage time during the exam is, so there's this hack, do all the simple questions first because when you're writing the exam, you have various questions with different levels. So you pretty much have to do the easy questions first. I always advise that because those are the ones that really waste your time. Like they're very simple, but they're also like very repetitive. So as you move to like, if you're like doing the commands thing that I showed before, setting the leases, you just find yourself reusing those and then you're saving time in the long term because you're going to TypeCube CTL a lot of times, like in really lots. So the first thing is to shorten the command. Second thing is to practice with the test so that actually you have like some idea of like how the questions would be. Next thing is here, what you proceed to the next session since we have, okay, we still have roughly 18 minutes to see if we can still join while we prepare for the next session. Okay, go for it. So that's a good one, I'd like to move on. Proceed to the next session. Okay, so, okay, so let me take this. Okay, so, okay, so I consider there are a lot of questions mostly due to the, from the stage side. So let me pick the first one, which is covered on, okay. The first question is on sharing my slides. So yes, I would actually share my slides, I'll put them together so that everyone can have a conversation. So regarding the second question, which is on killer the usage. Yes, yes, so on killer the usage, you have to pay for the practicals. It's actually needed that you pay for them. They don't really host a free one, but if you really want to take it, I could actually assist you with getting the CK or CKAD setup. You have my Twitter, it can just actually pass me. It's something I've done in the past for some people, so it's pretty fine. So getting started with the CKAD, John Sinubar, you can just Google it. A lot of the time, the certifications and the links actually are really online. So everything kind of just works great there, yeah. So the next part is also on what kind of resources are recommended most. So the thing about the Kubernetes exams is that they are actually practical. So resources is mostly code cloud and killer's shell, because when I went through most of them starting off, most of the medium blogs were nice, but they don't really cover in like how the exam actually would go from like your perspective, they can describe it, but it's actually a different experience for each participant. So I would say the best you can actually take up is code cloud and killer the SH. Like those are the best you can use. Okay, okay, from the Linux Foundation, there really isn't so much. You can actually take, oh yes, there's actually a course on Kubernetes from the Linux Foundation. That is also another part that it could take. So I didn't really use that one. It's actually also very comprehensive and you can use that to actually pass the exams. But at that time, I mostly just use code cloud and killer the shell. Yeah. So how long did you take me to study for the actual exam? So for the CKA, I spent about two to three weeks studying. So it's not much that I was already used to working with Kubernetes and using it for about two years. So it's a lot of debugging, downtime, experience, so like ad production experience with it. So it was pretty straightforward to like work my way around it. That's how I was able to work through most of the exams. So this is from Masiyo Avryomalik. Okay, the next steps after taking the CKA certification. So I would actually say that the certifications are meant to help you with showcasing your experience because personally, like having a CKA and CKA doesn't mean you get the job. But for most of my experience, the fact that I had really high scores kind of like just pushed me edge in the interviews. So I wouldn't actually say that dealing with these certifications should be the code, but mostly acing them really well so that I can showcase that as like a metric for your experience. You know, it's basically like doing school and getting a C versus an A, you know, like, if you really want to get an A, you get an A and you definitely have more opportunities from there. Regarding the cloud provider side, it's pretty much the same platform. So you wouldn't really have any issues. You can just continue with, you know, focusing on using Kubernetes. It doesn't really matter. It's very platform-agnostic. Relievant to the B to pursue the LFCS. So the LFCS would actually be nice so that you could at least cover your Linux experience and then do the CKA and CKA because most of the VMs you'll be using during the exam are actually a Linux virtual machine. So all your experience will just be needed from there. So yes, taking it is not really a prerequisite, but it is an optional advantage to take the course. Yeah. Okay, any more questions? Okay, I think I've answered all the questions. Okay. Yeah. Coco? Awesome. Thank you very much, Bakari. I think... Okay. So you actually know pre-certification, but the good part about the CNCF is that they offer you discounts. You can actually write in for like a discount on your CKA exam. They're actually that generous. Like I remember that I did mine at the 50% off during that period, which was like really great. So I saved like a ton because it's over $300 to write the exams. I paid $150, $150 for both the CKA and CKA D. And that was like $300. So I took two courses for the price of one. So you could actually write directly to the foundation. They offer scholarships, full scholarships either way. Yeah. What roadmap would you advise for a total beginner? So the roadmap that I would advise is mostly to one, at least gets started within the platform. There's this particular thing from Chelsea High Tower to Venice is the hardware. So I will send a link in the stage chat. So like if you wanted to start off, you could work through this. It's actually one of the best and I think most standard way to jump in, to jump into like the platform and get started with it in like the best way possible. So I would actually say this would be one of the easiest ways as it began to get started. It would take a while, but it's very, very convenient for your learning process and you end up good learning a lot and learning a lot. Taking the exams isn't really like a problem for them. Okay. Any more questions? Okay. Seems like it's good. Yeah. Okay, cool then. So thank you everyone and go have a good day.