Hey, thanks for coming on the show. Shannon and Darren, I really wanted to call you Sharon there for a second. Get the two names together. Thanks for being on the show, doing our little drive around while we do the interviews. And it's great to have you. And we were just talking about driving stick. So I think we should, you know, props to drive and stick, right? Like, yeah, I really miss it. But we're in the electric Ford Mach-E, right?  But yeah, so what I want to talk to you about, of course, is Acorn. What are you, you know, what are you all up to over there? Yeah, so we just released Acorn. We just publicly announced it, what, August? Yeah, just like a month or two ago. Yeah. So Acorn is focused on the application experience on Kubernetes, basically making it easier for people to package up applications and run them on Kubernetes. So something the developers can like and use. And something the ops people can also like and run. So it's like trying to make both sides happy. Yeah. So that's kind of the high level of Acorn. And so, what does it do that makes it easier for developers? Yeah, I mean, so it starts from a developer perspective, it starts a lot more towards a Docker-like experience. So we very much were big fans of Docker and the original Docker from way back when. So it has more of like a composed-like experience. So there's something called the Acorn file to describe the application so it can do a full microservice with, you know, volumes and secrets. So you define the entire application. Gotcha. But then you can build that with Acorn into a single asset, like an OCI artifact that gets pushed into a standard registry. Yep. And then so from there, once it's in it, it's an image, basically, then you can just deploy that on any Kubernetes cluster and then just run that on a Kubernetes cluster. Gotcha. Gotcha. So we have a little Acorn operator that runs the Kubernetes cluster to assist that. And is there like some, is there like a registry or something? Or like, where do you, where do you push it? So it just goes to any Docker registry. So we're using all the regular OCI Docker technology. So it's the standard stuff. Yeah. So the same way, like, today you're building Docker images and pushing them to a registry. So now you build Acorn images for your application and then push those to a registry. So your Acorn image actually includes like the application metadata plus all of the, like it links in all of the Docker images. So it creates one big artifact that you can sign that defines your entire application. And then you can move that between like DevTest, Prod, whatever, whatever you want. So what's particularly funny about your story is, have you ever heard of an application or a project called Atomic App? A little bit. So I worked on that in 2013. Oh, yeah. Which did what you're describing. You know, probably not as well, right? But it was the same kind of concept is like, ours was slightly different in that what we wanted to do was more like the container that you pushed around was a description of the application. And so then it would go and kind of get the pieces because we weren't sure we wanted the big thing. And to be fair, right, like it never saw a customer. We just kind of rolled, you know, we're building it and because we thought it was a problem in the space. So one of the things that's unique of what we do is because we don't actually like copy in the Docker images, we're just because an OCI registry is really just a link to a bunch of digest. So we just link to the existing Docker image digest. But if you do like kind of like a push or pull, since it's all linked together, it kind of appears as one asset. But it's just this kind of this big tree of layers and manifests and indexes. And so we link it all together. And so you can sign it, which is super awesome. Yeah. And then also like if you want to like, because a lot of times let's say you're moving to like an air gapped environment or something, it's really easy to just pick up that one asset because it looks like an asset, even though it's all these links. And just like kind of push and pull that. So you get your whole application. So you don't have to deal with like, because that's what like, you know, you can do that already with the helm chart, you can push that to a registry. But it will not, it doesn't include all the Docker images. So then you have all these references to different images. And then those might be mutable tags. So things have changed. But like one of the key things that we've done with Acorn is like, because there's been a lot of efforts to kind of address the developer experience on Kubernetes. But we've like, we're trying to embrace like the full power of Kubernetes, but present it in a way that the actual developers, whoever's building the application, does not need to know Kubernetes. So we're not using like Kubernetes style YAML. We actually have kind of like our own markup language, you know, it looks a lot like a Q or Jsonnet. But it's so it's something like really tailored much towards like, that it's more abstracted concepts. So it's like, you just deal with kind of describing the application and then Acorn just makes it turns it onto all the Kubernetes stuff. Right. So we're not like, you're not going to see like, you know, Kubernetes manifest and stuff in our, in your description. Yeah. So does it, does it feel more like, I mean, I think it's a part of the appeal of a Docker file, right? Was that it's basically bash, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that's, and so it's like, we mimicked it. It's like very, very, so we have the, the Acorn file is like, it's, the level of abstraction is very similar to Docker. So it's like, you're just defining some, some containers with image and arguments and those use some volumes and secrets.  And so we just wire up everything kind of like best practices while just kind of respecting the, the kind of the intent of what the Acorn file, like the way they describe the application. Right. Right. Okay. It's a pretty high bar.  It's not like people can't do everything. Yeah. Our whole principle is, okay, can we make this way easier? Can we make this way easier for a lot more people? And, you know, and at the same time, it's like, how do you avoid all the mistakes of all the passes that have come before because at some level that's what we're building, right? It's a new pass. It's another layer of abstraction that, you know, takes away Kubernetes. And that's typically been really hard to get right. Right. I mean, you've got Heroku's and cloud boundaries and even early open shifts and stuff that were very, you know, Pazzy.  But nowadays when you go, you know, we were at Rancher for eight years and working with so many of these companies that had built Kubernetes, were managing Kubernetes in the cloud, had Kubernetes everywhere. They're, you know, the platform teams were building these massive, effectively platform as a service themselves, right? Helm templates and scanning and GitOps and all this stuff. And everyone was a snowflake. Everyone was heavily maintained. So I think our, our inspiration was what if we did an open source project that anybody could use that sort of simplified that whole process and was continuously being maintained and just got better and better over time. Yeah. I mean, in a lot of ways, right? It's, I mean, it's kind of like the beauty of like Ansible, right? It's like, it feels in the same way as that, like, we're not, you know, versus like puppet and chef is like, we're not saying you can't get down and dirty and do whatever it is you actually need to do, you know, because you've got some bizarre use case. But if we give you a framework to put it in, maybe the overall infrastructure will be a lot cleaner. Well, in the administration, right? We found is like just upgrading clusters, you know, people are so afraid of what is in there. And whether it's, and that was, I think one of the things Darren really got right. And we've been getting really good feedback on just the sort of secure by design architecture of Acorn. Okay, you know, let's make secrets super easy so that everybody's going to use them in exactly the right way. Right. Let's, you know, not allow privileged containers. Let's, you know, automatically allocate namespaces and just really just, just think about the best practices and build those again into a way that, you know, I mean, we've been supporting thousands and thousands of Kubernetes clusters. And it just is like, well, if people just wrote their apps like this, it'd be a lot easier for us as operators. And I think that's where we're trying to get right with Acorn was. Well, I think it's one of those things too, where it's like, I still don't really understand why passes didn't stick around. Because like, I think there's, there's a tendency amongst engineers, right, to think that their, their thing is somehow special. And, and to then, therefore, you know, avoid things that feel like they have lock in like a pass, right? So I think maybe you're kind of hitting that, that, you know, sweet middle ground, where it's like, they feel like they can be a special snowflake, but because they're probably not actually going to be, you can actually, you know, capitalize on similarity of infrastructure and deploy. That's it. You nailed it. Because it really is that part where people are so afraid that something cool is going to come along later that they're not going to be able to use. I think nowadays though, what's interesting is when we're thinking about where Acorn's going, the cloud services are going to probably be the most important part of that because everyone wants access to, you know, these cloud data services, right? Different types of whether it's for machine learning or it's just a back end, you know, Mongo, they want Atlas, right? They want access to these services. And, you know, I think it's going to be less and less important, you know, like as a platform, I don't think we'll be doing data services the way that Cloud Foundry did. We'll be doing data services where we just assume that you're using cloud-based data services if you don't want to deploy, you know, it's like you can choose to use the Mongo image and bring up a Mongo server, but you're probably just going to use, you know, certainly more and more we expect people to use cloud-based databases. And so, yeah, it's really interesting with my students is that, you know, because they're, you know, they're taking computer science degree. And in a lot of ways, it's very traditional. And, you know, and so me and so we do all these projects for like third parties.  Please do not kill a squirrel with us in the crowd. I haven't actually done anything bad. Bad branding. So, but yeah, in getting, getting the look, so the client will present a, well, I basically want to make a website, right? And getting them to try to maybe think a little bit outside of the box for lack of a better term. But it's like, no, this one system, for example, it's a message banking for ALS patients, right? Or vaguely like that. And, and I'm like, no, what this can be is a serverless function that you upload these audio files. And then, you know, basically, there's a pipeline of where we can like interject audio editing of various sorts. We can either use a cumin, you know, in the mix, right, where we have an actual audio engineer, or we can go out to some service, you know, but kind of getting them to wrap their head around, you know, essentially cloud native development, right? Or even event driven architectures, when what they think of is this very serial or sequential development style is really difficult, you know, and, but I, you know, for me, at least, you know, I think what you were kind of describing like that's, that is what we're going to be doing for all development in the future, right? It's like, I'm going to write my one little bit, it turned into a serverless function, and it's going to get all of its data services, all of its file storage, everything else from somewhere else, you know, and, you know, magic happens here. I don't know. And I think when you imagine that future, though, you kind of realize, oh, yeah, that, of course, you know, we're not going to have the same types of paths as we had in the past, right? To do this right, you've got to kind of reimagine the whole thing. And yeah, it's a high bar. It's something that, you know, you're going to have to actually appeal to users. So we're just in that right now, we're kind of in the alpha phase of Acorn, we haven't pushed out, we're just demoing here at KubeCon for the first time, you know, cloud service that ties the Acorn experience to all the infrastructure stuff that hopefully will grow into what we build and we'll be able to start sharing with people. So I was curious, have you seen a project called, the nickname is Sochi, but it's a streaming OCI? I was just talking to Chris Short, he was one of my earlier interviews, he was talking about this project that they contributed to CNCF, it's Amazon, but it does it streams the layer getting of containers, which I think might be really appealing to the delivery system for... Oh yeah, so it's, yeah, that's like, it's a newer version of like this, the snapshot or the E-star or whatever. Yeah, but basically it's like kind of in the background and load all the layers rather than kind of having to get them all at once. Yeah, but it seems like it might be really appropriate that you can kind of, you know, then you can kind of get piecemeal. And then especially if you end up with an environment that is very PAS-like, you know, you have your PHP and your Python back-ends or whatever, but then if they have a shared sense of those acorn files, you know, or a lot of it, right, then you can just, you can also take advantage of the infrastructure optimization. I don't know, I just think it'd be kind of cool. It is, I mean a lot of it right now, it's these cloud services too that are getting into, you know, when we start to get requirements from people, a lot of them are about, you know, look, everyone's got OpenShift or Rancher and they've got all their cloud, they've got all sorts of Kubernetes and they've done a lot. I mean, they've just done so much work, like so much work on OPA, so much work on Helm, so much work on building around it. But I think that's going to be one of the big, you know, why I say the bar is so high. It's like, can you actually, you know, give enough value to replace all that work? Yeah, exactly.  Yeah, I mean, I had a very similar experience when I was working at Red Hat, right? Because I would go to customers and see the massive infrastructure they had built to build RPMs. And I was like, you know, there's this open source project over here that does this already, you can just use that one.  And, you know, the system that builds RPMs for Red Hat, which is the same one as the open source one, right? It was written way back in the day, and it was really custom to what Red Hat needed, right? And so, yeah, I think, I think what you're trying to do is really interesting, but also I totally recognize it like super difficult. It's always what we try to do. One of the things about like Paz, that's always been, you know, kind of the restrictive nature of the, you know, it's great, you can just push some source code and it builds and goes to production. But it's like, everyone has a slightly different flow and how they do CI and CD, different points they need to inject, they do this. So it's like, you know, with Acorn, we were basically what we focused on is the easy way to basically build an asset. And then once you have that asset, you can easily move it around and deploy it. So you can really customize the CI and CD flow. Because those things, you know, it's like CI, for example, is get up actions, you know, like that's just taking off like crazy. So it's like, well, that's a pretty good tool. Like, you know, people are using that, you know, there's no reason to replace that and have to be stuck into like our specific view of how CI is supposed to be done. Yeah. I think that's the truth a lot of levels, too, because like you really think about, you know, to build Cloud Foundry, the team had to go build Bosch, right? Like they had to build basically Kubernetes. They had to do it. They had to build all of Kubernetes. And then all of a platform on top of Kubernetes. And it's the same for Heroku. They had to build all of that. Yeah, it's one of the reasons. Yeah, it's like to do it, you have to be experts at infrastructure and expert at development. And it's kind of cool to do it right now, because we don't have to think about infrastructure. It's like, we don't even really have to think about dealing with on-prem infrastructure. There's so many ways to get it. The beautiful thing, like, so with Acorn, it's like, we're just focusing on like, how do we take all of the Kubernetes ecosystem, like all these amazing things that are already there, and just basically put that together in a nice, like, make it very accessible to people, make it very easy for the developer, make it very easy for operations.  It's like, Acorn, we don't have to do progressive delivery. I mean, it's like, that already exists, Flagger, you can pick up some run. It's like everything, it's like, the ecosystem is so rich. It's like, so it's like, we just need to plug into that. We're just basically trying to, you know, it's like, we have all this functionality, but people just struggle today in leveraging all of that.  So actually kind of on that note, like one of the challenges, I think, in working as an engineer, a developer in the open source world, is knowing which projects I should invest in, right? Because, you know, there's often a competition going on, you know, should I invest in mesos or Kubernetes, right? Yeah, way back when. And so do you, because as far as I'm concerned, part of providing a better developer experience is how do you recommend stuff, or do you recommend stuff as part of Acorn? Yeah, so that's the idea of like, so with the Acorn and the Acorn files, we're trying to abstract the actual, you know, so you're just describing the application and higher level concepts. So then at runtime, at like, implement, like, when we actually deploy the application, we can make those choices. So it's like, Acorn, we have a default set of technology, but we are not looking to like, prescribe, you have to use this, you know, so it's like, we'll be doing like service mesh integration. So if you want link or D versus STO, that's fine. They both, you know, provide. The user shouldn't know. If I'm a user, I shouldn't know whether I've got link or D or STO. Right, right.  So we want to implement those structures. And that's why that, I mean, it's like, you know, this is opinionated by its core. It's like, if we're not opinionated, we're really going to be just making the same mistakes, I think is, we're just going to create another thing on top of Kubernetes that doesn't have any value. Yeah, you think of XKCD's, you know, yet another one, whatever it is. And that's not policy, but yeah, protocol.  So yeah, I mean, the bar's hard. Yeah, yeah, but I do like, I mean, I will say, you know, I really appreciate getting things that are opinionated and working with things that are opinionated, as long as, you know, if I can figure out how it's like well documented about how I can kind of do something slightly different, you know, where, where I can't, for whatever reason, agree with your opinion. And that's the great thing. So it's like by us, because like when we built Acorn, it's like, so the user experience is really through a CLI and it looks a lot like kind of Docker, like run and build. And but under the hood, it's 100% Kubernetes architecture completely following all the best practices that you built things. So the nice thing is, is that, you know, we can make it work automatically. But for all of those corner cases where enterprise like, no, I need to do this, I need to do that or whatever. It's like, it's Kubernetes, you can still plug in under the hood. But again, that's all on the kind of the operations side infrastructure. It's all, you know, that's an implementation detail of, you know, well, and particularly what, you know, like you haven't really mentioned it, but should be obvious, right, which is that when I have a change in my operational environment, I also don't need to hassle the developers, right?  So we can just change that and kind of re deploy, right? Yeah. And our guess is I think over time that those will become less and less, actually, like I think, right, like the probably winners. Yeah. Well, also, I think the analogy in our head is we're trying to build something more like GitHub than like, you know, a sort of a deployment platform or framework. We want something that's like, this is just a really, really easy way. If you use it, you don't have to think about any of that stuff. And, you know, hopefully it appeals to really, really micro users.  Just boom, run, deploy.  Well, you're in that really weird, I think it's a really weird kind of marketing position, which in some ways, also had, right, which is that, like, your target audience is developers, but you have to make sure the operators are not afraid of it, right? Yeah, exactly. And I think that's, that's a really, you know, that's a really tough spot to get right. And one of the good, I mean, I think, I think that's an area where our experience at Rancher helps so much is like, having built for so many enterprise Kubernetes platforms, we kind of know what they need and what they don't need and what they care about.  Like that's what's going to be the vast majority of the back ends.  I think that will certainly be one of the key influences on the directions we take, because that's what it's like. For a lot of these things, I don't so much see that there's going to necessarily be like a winner in the technology, but it's like, if you're in AWS, you're going to be using their storage, their networking, their security scan or whatever. If you're on Google, you know, so it's like a lot of these things just going to be tailored to the environment, whatever makes sense. If you're on-prem and using OpenShift, it's going to be all, you know, Red Hat technology. Yeah, like, I don't know if it's a term yet, but I really feel like it should be, which is essentially cloud locked, you know, because you really do kind of get locked into those, the various clouds because of the services they offer based, and you kind of make that initial decision. Yeah, but I mean, I don't, like, I think you're still with Kubernetes getting the, that's the kicker, right, because it's like, well, yeah, here I use their version of all this stuff, but it's still a standard approach. That I can import, yeah. Yeah, so it's like, because we see that because it's like, when we were doing, you know, K3S and stuff on the edge, it was like, people love the idea of, like, I can use a Kubernetes, like, I can develop as though I'm running it on the cloud, but it's going to the edge because it's just Kubernetes there. Right. Even though it's like, my application is obviously not portable from the edge to the cloud, like, I'm not going to do that. It didn't make any sense, but like, it's the same approach across, you know, different teams or within a company. And it's just like Linux sort of taking over the world. I think now we're in the stage where Kubernetes is taking over and it becomes this ubiquitous backwind. It doesn't matter if you're in China and you're working on Oli Cloud or you're, you know, in the US and you're working on AWS. I mean, everywhere you go, you're going to get Kubernetes. Yeah. And everybody's going to have more or less the same core capabilities. And I think the nice thing is, you know, when we look at it, we're like, well, if we go somewhere and they don't have a good service mesh option, we'll bring our own, right? If they do, we'll use theirs. And so I think it'll be more, the hardest part for us will be supporting backends, right? It'll be like, okay, this is, you know, putting the work into like support, really supported too, because we could try to do lowest common denominator, but that's never going to really fly. I got to get in there and just really make the experience on a cloud provider fantastic. And if we get enough traction, you know, hopefully they'll help us. Initially, it's all on you. It's like those things like lowest common, like those solutions never work or whatever. And so it's like the, it's like with Acorn, what we're really trying to do is separate into like application concerns where this versus like operations and infrastructure. And what you find so much of Kubernetes right now of the kind of the ecosystem, it's, it's very oriented towards operations, all the technologies like the storage and networking and security and all the stuff that's all like from a developer perspective, like that's just a crapper. It's like, well, that should just run. Like I don't want to, like to just run, you know, I'm not involved in that part.  Well, I think that's, I mean, to be honest, right, I think it's been one of the really good things about Kubernetes is that it's kind of enforcing that separation you're talking about. It's really starting to make it real. Like, I don't know if either of you remember Delta cloud, which I had such high hopes for, but it was basically this, this library that would let you talk to any of the clouds at the time, which was basically AWS and Oh, that was like Libcloud and the way back. Yeah. Yeah. This is like open stack days. Yeah. Before that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But it was part of it was to support open stack so that people could bridge from Amazon to open stack. Yeah. I think that's part of its original mission, but, but it didn't do a very good job. It did the lowest common nominator model, right? Which I think is why it never really took off because of that you got to separate those two sets of concerns. And that's what we saw it like with the open, the open stack. That was the kind of a major flaw across the board with the open stack was that they were trying to abstract and like every vendor who wanted to differentiate, they're doing the lowest common denominator. And that's what like, so this is kind of the beauty. It's like Kubernetes is just, the architecture is so good that like everyone's been able to kind of come in and do their differentiated features and whatnot, but all still playing within the same space, like the same ecosystem. And so, you know, yeah, it's like that. This is why, so it's like we're not looking to, you know, kind of abstract that and do lowest common denominator. It's like, no, you take advantage of the, you know, if you have this super great networking or, you know, AI system or something like that, you take advantage of it and Kubernetes allows it. Right. Yeah. No, that's, it's really very cool. I will definitely be checking it out. Like I kind of heard the name of the, you know, the company and what you were trying to do, but it's really been interesting.  Right. So it's like, it's pretty, it's as simple, it's as simple to get going as like Docker compose. Right. Right. But it's the big difference between like what we're doing with Acorn and say Docker compose is like, we're still, there's no intermediary step. Yeah, we're connecting you still to the full Kubernetes ecosystem, that thing you can, you know, you don't have to switch to a different tech stack to then put it into production. Right. Right. And this is the same thing you can do on your, on your laptop, the same thing can run, you know, in the cloud, which is as, you know, if you've ever done any real production apps, it's a very nice. Oh yeah. Yeah. We know.  Well, at least part of it too for me is like, you do the deployment type development work so rarely that you like to relearn it every single time you do it. You know, it's like every time I want to stand up an Apache and put a new web server in there, right? I have to remember how and figure out how to like rewrite the config files to get it to work because you know, you just don't do it often enough. Yeah. That's why it's going to be for most people with Kubernetes. Right. If you're on it and we were talking something the other day, they're like five person team of which two of the people were just working on the Kubernetes deployment elements. The other three were doing the application. Right. Is that the overhead? Is it 40% overhead? Is what we kind of cost right now for your sort of like? Well, I mean, I have the problem, right?   Because it's the, you know, the more the promise style of development. And you know, so it's like completely different. So yeah, I totally appreciate that sort of thing.  It's like, you can't possibly memorize all of the things so it's like me. I compare it to Python. We will have to go as far as C++. Well, also, do you really want to be labeled as like C++ forever? But Python is just as big. Well, I used to compare it to Java a lot. That would really upset me. But some of the things is like, because I've been using Kubernetes, you know, obviously day in, day out for the last, whatever long it's been around. I still cannot from scratch write like a like a deployment or I could not actually like, okay, I'm going to set up like a deployment with a config map and a service. I couldn't do that from scratch. Like I got to find some template or something like that. Yeah, I completely agree. Although to be fair, right? I mean, like, for the vast majority of almost anything I do that's related to like programming or whatever, I almost always start with something else and then like, that's it until it's right. Yeah. But that was one of the things I always liked about like Docker and Docker compose was like the, it was simple enough that for the most part, like after you just, yeah, you can memorize it pretty quickly, right? And it was pretty straightforward. And it was quick to look up the weird ones that you usually, yeah. There wasn't really, although I still would like someone to clearly explain to me the difference between CMD and entry point. But you know, like, I get it, but I don't get it. Yeah. So, I don't know. So what else, what are you, what are you doing at KubeCon? I mean, so you said you're demoing, you know, an early version of the product. Are you giving any talks? Are you doing stuff like that? We're, no, we're, we kind of are the last ones in. I mean, we booked a sponsor. We were like, all right, we should go to KubeCon about a month and a half ago. It was just never a good idea. So to find us, you just got to walk and walk and walk. All the way at the back. Just keep looking.  We know, we know if you find us, you're really interested. And the development team loves you with this. So yeah, by the way, you have a brand new deadline because we have to go and show it at the show. Oh, yeah, of course, of course. Oh, Darren, never, never, never fails to deliver. I never even worry. I was actually giving a talk of, you know, kind of demoing something or whatever in my like entire dev team was like in the audience. And I was like trying to like demonstrate something. I'm like, what am I doing wrong?  Yeah. No, it turns out there was a bug. They fixed the bug while I was on stage. And so when I went back to it later on, it worked. And so I was like, I was like, I was like, my mind didn't I do exactly the same thing before? It was really very fun. Speaking of always being on time. Yeah, man. Well, we've had our experiences. Darren and I have been hosting meetups online for like, I don't know, eight years together. And I would say, you know, everyone, the only rule is we always do live demos and we always show real technology. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what our batting average is, but we would not be hired. Like, we'd be like, we'd be like, double A at best. We're never we'd meet the majors. These things break all the time. You know, what's so interesting about that though, is that like, so this is kind of gets at why, so we started this Twitch channel, right, right around the pandemic. And programming on Twitch has been kind of growing in popularity. And my theory is, is that because one of the hardest or one of the things you get from experience, right, is how to like approach debugging, like how to approach fixing a problem. And when you don't have any idea, you know, what do you do, right? And so I think when you're watching somebody who's live programming, and they, and they're an expert, right, and they run into some problem, I think what's really interesting for the viewers, especially a junior developer, is like how they approach fixing it. And you can watch them do it live. And so I bet there was actually a lot of people who appreciated when you're demo. Oh yeah, we get lots of love. Like you get super stressed out. The best ones are they're like, no, no, no, you just misspelled that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that in class all the time, because I live code in class. Sometimes I'll just stop. I'm like, did anyone see? What did I do wrong? It's worked in like 100 times out of 100. Yeah, I basically do that every lecture. So yes, I know exactly. It's the best though. I think people doing this is so valuable. Like, it's also when somebody who's really good at this has been doing it for a long time, screws up over and over again, it makes everyone feel like, wow, he's really not that good, or maybe we all just suck at what we're doing. Exactly, which is probably more likely the case. If you ever need a boost of confidence, just watch my demos. So bad. It will definitely make you really nervous to use any product he's built, but you know, it's great. It's really great. It's so easy. It works on the eighth try. Every eighth try. It's consistent. Yes, it's alpha. We'll fix it in beta. Right. Well, thanks so much for being on the show. We really appreciate it. Yeah, it was fun. Thanks for having us. It was great. We had a nice little tour of the town. Almost killed the squirrel. Almost killed the squirrel. Didn't actually do it though. Like I said, my ratio is pretty good. No animals harmed. Exactly. We think we might need that as a tagline, because the number of times I've had geese meandering across in front of me.


The recent patch in Dragon Ball FighterZ, the game has officially become crazy. It feels like every character is doing insane damage while using insane techniques, and overall the speed of the game has just gotten a lot faster. But I believe it can get even faster than this, and so does Dragon Ball FighterZ because they have a game mode available to us called New Ultimate Battle, in which game mode your keychart is faster, your special moves do more damage, and fighters have more jumps available which basically means that the combos get even crazier. So if people are already referring to this patch as the party game patch, then what does this mode turn it into? That is exactly what we're going to find out today as I challenge you guys to some arena matches in New Ultimate Battle. I basically went with all characters that I thought would just be insane if cranked up to an even higher power level, which is basically all this mode does. So Broly, honestly Broly is pretty scary. I'm a match!  The back dash keyblast was smart! Oh! Damn! Okay, okay, it's really a bit of lag on my side though, 8 frames, 10 frames. Look at how fast I am if it wasn't lagging, that is. Oh, you know what, hold on, I'm UI Goku, hold on, I'm UI Goku. Buh, buh, buh, oh no, no, no, no, you can't do that against players, you can't do that play. Oh, I forgot I have two sparks. I really shouldn't wait around then, should I? Drop it, Broly, drop it, let's go, wait, let's go, oh, 6M, let's go! Big combo. Jump again. Oh, he bounced off the ground, look at that vanish! Oh my god, it's blue, you didn't take it! If you don't take it, you know I gotta show no respect! Jiren! Oh, I wanted more, I wanted more, I wanted more, get Broly out of here! I used the spark, I still got one more left, watch me play UI Goku, buh, buh, oh, it didn't work. Oh, counter, wake up, counter, I'm him, watch me do it again!  It doesn't counter supers, haha!  If I spark in level three, is that just an insta KO for him? He just, bro, he is actually the Majin Buu God, am I dead for this?


We're still on the breakfast in plus CV Africa and many thanks for staying with us this morning and also joining, we're just going to be looking at the consent of the Nigerian Labour Congress. The Nigerian Labour Congress, as the NLC, has called for the reversal of private ownership and control of electricity sector. The trade union also kicked against the privatisation of water resources as proposed in the National Water Resource Bill, currently before the National Assembly. The union stated its position during a meeting at the National Union of Electricity Employees in Yaba area of Lagos, Dowson Tuesday. The National Water Resources Bill, which was introduced in the 8th Assembly, was reintroduced in June. The bill had cost an average among many Nigerians who perceived it as power grab by the federal government. So Joe Agero, the union national deputy president, said that since the handover of assets to private owners, corruption and inefficiency, had remained in the sector. Private operators took over the Nigerian power sector from powerholding company of Nigeria in 2013. Joining us this morning to throw more lights on this is Onyeka Christopher, assistant general secretary NLC Yaba Lagos. Thank you so much Christopher for joining us. Thank you for having me and good morning to you. Let's head straight to the conversation now. Why is the NLC taking the stands that she has taken, especially when we know that the private sector, we know that government is not a manager of business and so the private sector, over time, has been responsible for economic development across economists in the world? Okay, I think it would be better if we start like this, that we clarify that the call, this particular call that was made, was not by the Niger Labor Congress, but by the National Union of Electricity Employees. But we have the Niger Labor Congress, that is where we stand from and so the issue is very clear. One is that anybody that says that the private sector is always better in managing or propelling economic development. Yes, that may be true, but that is not very true, especially in an economy like Nigeria. The truth is that if you go to places like China, it's a public sector that is trying to economic development and I'm not sure that Nigeria is as developed as China. Now, if you look at one of the best airlines in Nigeria with the president of the Congress has always used to give us example. You find out that Ethiopian Airlines is a public sector company, it's owned by the government and it's doing well. Anybody that tells you that the government doesn't have any business in government is not telling you the truth, that is the reality. And then let's go back to the privatization of the electricity sector. The fact remains that when in a country like our own they talk about privatization, the question we ask is who is going to buy this particular sector, who is going to buy the companies? Is the seller equal to the buyer? Because that is what you find out in Nigeria. The sellers are always equal to the buyers. The same people that are selling are also the same people that are buying. And so you find out that the privatization process in our nation, unfortunately, is driven or is conceived in iniquity and propelled by corruption. And when you have these two combinations operating, you find out, let's say, the Bible says if the foundation, you know, be shaken, what can the righteous do? If the foundation of the process that gave us the privatization of the electricity sector is faulty, was built on iniquity, how can its outcomes be fair? Now, let me ask you a question. Since the electricity sector was sold, before it was sold, we were generating up around four this and bigger ones. We were generating that. But immediately, immediately after selling, we have not been able to generate up to that since then. You find out that what has been privatized is darkness. So the objectives for privatizing the sector, have they been achieved? Have we now brought in better expertise from abroad? No. That is a truth. The people, have we now brought in foreign exchange from abroad? No. The truth is that the people that bought that particular sector do not have the discourse and the genco, do not have the technical capacity to manage those places. They did not bring in any expertise from abroad. We still had the same workers, our members, who were trained and all of those. They did not bring in any fresh fund from abroad. Rather, they borrowed from the banks, internally. So you find out that the energy of the sector was mired, was conceived insane. And as a result of that, a lot of liars have been told to be able to convert it. And so we ask it, that we reverse it. Because if anything is rated under lies, then it develops us as responsible citizens and responsible organization to ask for a reversal. And that is why we're calling for a reversal. So that if we have to do it, we do it correctly and in the right way so that it will benefit Nigerians and benefit Nigerian workers. That is why we're asking for that. So that corruption is the reason why you're asking for the reversal? It was conceived in the process that later that reversal was wrong. That is one. Two, that the privatization itself has not given us, has not attained any of its objectives. One of the objectives was to increase electricity generation and supply. That has not happened. That has not become worse. Instead of improving, okay, to run the sector, that has not happened. Three, to bring him funds, no funds, the sector, especially the investment. That has happened. They borrowed money from our banks. And so that is a problem that we're having. And we are saying that since those objectives have not been achieved, it is better that we reverse it and then we sit down, we negotiate the process and then start all over. Perhaps we may get the right people to buy it and then to buy the companies and then get them to run it properly and deliver the understated objectives for the sector. But for now, it has not worked and it will not work because the same people that sold the electricity sector sold it to themselves and their brothers and their cronies and their friends. Onyeka, so you're saying that... That is why we're asking. Yeah, so what your group and organization is asking is not that we shouldn't be privatized. What is that? The privatization has an error. There's a question mark to it. It's not that you're asking that the government should be in control of this, but you're saying that it should be sold to the right people. Am I correct? Two things. I'm pregnant. It is hard to say that government cannot run certain entities successfully. Government cannot run it successfully if it's so which is to do so. So what are you asking for? So what exactly are you asking for? We're asking, what we're asking for now is a reversal because what you have done is considered the same. Reverse it. When you reverse it, then we all sit down and decide on the way forward. I think what we're asking for is a fair deal for Nigeria and for Nigerians. So I'm trying to understand you clearly and I'm sure that it's very important that Nigerians understand your position as well. So are you asking for a reversal that the government be in charge of the power sector, the electricity sector entirely because you have also argued that the electricity sector has not really fair. I mean, it's not that the entire system was privatised but you have a part of it which is a distribution. So are you saying that it should be reversed back to the government being in control or you're saying that there should just be a change in the process of privatisation? Error should be corrected. So are you in support of privatisation or you're asking that it should be done correctly? What exactly is it? Privatisation is not a view when it is done correctly. But if it is not done correctly like it was done in Nigeria, then you will have what you're having, which is darkness. Nigeria aways or so does. Nigeria aways dies. The state sectors were also privatised and they are no longer running. That is what you are having in the electricity sector. So we're saying reverse what you have done that was not properly done, then all of us can see and see whether it is right to privatise or not. Because our original position is that privatisation is a product of neoliberalism. The neoliberal philosophy says, sell everything. The market forces can correct every imbalance, can help to drive the economy. But we have found out over the years that that is not the case. That is not the truth. So let us all sit down as a nation and tell ourselves the truth. Whether what we have done is okay. If what we have done is not okay, what do you do? Reverse it. When you reverse it, you do what? You take the next step and say, okay, can we run it ourselves? And we say yes, you can run it.  But this is how you're going to sell it. And we put a process that will now take this into private hands. Genuine private investors who can now run those particular areas. In any case, we say that even if privatisation is okay, is it compulsory that government must sell off these entities? Open up the sector and let those that think they have money invest in the sector. But you find out that that is not the case. They want to buy public sector companies on the chip. And that is why they are angling for that. Must it be through privatisation? Open up the electricity sector. Let private investors come in, invest in generation, invest in transmission, invest in distribution. And that's possible. If they know they can make money like that from it, let them go and start afresh. But they don't want to buy public properties on the chip. And that is one of the things we are responsible for. We have to give away prices to individuals who are from the government. And if they believe that we should reverse it and then look at the process again. And we don't want to repeat it. Government can run electricity sector. Government can run electricity. We know that that's for the world's first fully run electricity direction. In Nigeria, we can do that. But this is supposed to be for infrastructure. And not essentially private infrastructure. It should be a social infrastructure. And now electricity to permeate all the groups and companies. I know I make it accessible to the state. But do you think we can try to implement that efforts? Well, just before we go now, Onyeka, I'd like to ask you if the reason for asking that there be a reversal also a kick against the privatisation of the water resource bill that's been proposed in the national water bill currently before the national assembly. What's the reason for the kick against that as well? What's the reason for privatisation of it? If you look at what we say in the chain of movement if you don't understand it, we're talking about the review of neoliberalism instead. This is not working sticky. That is not working. Sell it. Or Sabotadi can say sell it. How do you want to sell water? So what is the reason? Why are you asking that? Why are you kicking against the privatisation of it? You cannot privatise water in Nigeria. Water is a natural resource that belongs to the people. You don't want to set up at the gates of everybody's house. That is all.  One day you will say air. So we are saying that that water bill should be thrown away and we know what the water bill contains. If you look at the content of the water bill, you will cry. And so we don't want the water bill in whatever guys we don't want that water bill to see the light of the day. So we reject it with all these potens and in this entirety. We don't want it. If the water bill is heavy, and it must go. So what in the water bill? What in the water bill is your group against? What in the water bill is your organisation? For instance, you need to be explicit. I need you to be very explicit. State example, what exactly in the water bill is getting your association or group agitated and asking that it be kicked out? Why do you want people to pay for water they provide for themselves? Why do you want me, for example, to pay for the water that I provide for myself? Why do you want me to pay for that, for example? Why do you want Nigerian workers who provide water? Who are not even supposed to provide electricity? Who are not even supposed to have to pay for providing such utilities for themselves? That is wicked, that is evil. That is one example I've given you. Why should we pay? I'm in my house and I dig boho and you want me to pay for digging boho and giving myself water? When you have felt in your responsibility as a government to provide water? That is one example. It is evil and we don't want the water bill. In all these scenarios, we don't want water bill. Let the water, let us continue to, unless federal government or the public sector or probably state government and local government that are supposed to be in charge of all this provides water. If you provide water for the people and the people fetch the water, we can pay water rates. But if I have to dig boho because you have felt in your responsibility to be there, to be there. All right, Onyeka Christopher, we have to go now. That's because we haven't been able to have a smooth conversation with you. It's been not perfect, but unfortunately that's on the network. Thank you so much for making our time to be with us this morning. Thank you so much. Onyeka Christopher, Assistant General Secretary of the NLC Yaba in Lagos Ride here. And so there's some consensus been raised that the government should be reversal of the electricity sector back, reverse it back. The private sector should have no business in it. But growing up and ensuring elementary government has been argued that the private sector is the best for anything. And if you look at developed climes, you ask yourself, some of the sectors that have tried have been driven by the private sector. The business of government is that they provide enabling environment for policies so that the private sector can actually thrive and move the economy forward. But they seem to have a different argument and opinion. That's what we've talked about, but we have to go at this point in time. When we return, we'd also look at another issue, the spin race, the fact that the spin and argument that Nigeria should be part of the G20. Please stay with us.


Multi-bandpass narrowband filters for color cameras are a definite hit in the amateur astrophotography community. Many people are using them to photograph emission nebulae from light polluted cities with color cameras including DSLRs but also dedicated astronomy cameras. Today I'm going to be reviewing three options. Two of them are pretty well established as good budget options. In the two inch format the Optalong L Enhance is $229 USD, the Optalong L Extreme is $309 USD, and the last one is new on the market. It's the Antlia ALP-T and it will retail for $380 USD. So we have sort of a good range here, $229 to $309 to $380 USD, and they're all basically designed to do the same thing which is to isolate the light from emission nebulae, specifically the O3 emission line and the HLFA emission line, and the way that they work is that they pass the light at those specific parts of the visible spectrum, and how much of the light they pass around the emission line is called the band pass, and anything that is not included in those specific band passes is reflected away and blocked from reaching the camera's sensor. So in addition to being great filters for capturing emission nebulae, they also work excellently for blocking light pollution, which is why I'm testing them here just outside of Boston in a Bordel 8 sky with plenty of bright lights all around me from houses and schools and street lamps and businesses. Now I want to make clear upfront what these filters are not good for, which is photographing basically anything other than emission nebulae. So they aren't good at capturing natural star color, they're not designed for capturing reflection nebulae or other galaxies. Now galaxies are sort of a special case because if it's a galaxy that has a lot of emission nebulae like m33 or the Magellanic clouds, then you might be able to get a cool photo using these kinds of filters, but it wouldn't be your typical galaxy photo like this, which is taken with broadband filters, not narrowband. So again their main use case is really for emission nebulae, nebulae that emit their own light from ionized atoms associated with the different gases in the gas clouds like hydrogen, oxygen, and sulfur. And importantly these clouds of gas emit a very specific wavelengths of light that the filters can be designed to pass while blocking all the other light. So what I'm going to do with this video is complete reviews of these three imaging filters, including shootout results, which I'm taking right now, but before I jump in, let me just go through a couple quick disclosures. I was not paid for these reviews. I'm also not given any talking points or anything like that. Anything in this video is coming from me and me alone. However, I didn't pay for these filters. Optalong sent me to LXtreme for the purpose of this review, and Agena Astro, which is a great online store, worked with Antlia and they loaned me the Antlia ALP-T filter a few weeks before it's available for sale here in the States from Agena. And Optalong Ellen Hans, I bought a long time ago, but with proceeds from my Patreon, which is the main financial support for this YouTube channel. So a big thank you to Optalong, Antlia and Agena Astro and my Patreon members. Your support really means the world to me, and it allows videos like this to happen. So let's jump in now, and I'm going to start with the spectral response of these filters. I measured each filter at home. I had put together a spectrometer and a suitable lamp the last time I did filter reviews, and these are the actual measured spectra with my home setup. And you can see from this that all three filters are pretty well centered on the emission lines like they're supposed to be. But the more expensive filters have the tighter band passes as advertised. The Antlia have the five nanometer band passes, the LXtreme has the seven nanometer, and the Ellen Hans has a 24 on the 03 line and a 10 nanometer pass on the HA line. Now something sort of interesting is taking these spectra and plotting them to get transmission curves. Now my setup is not super high resolution, but I still think I get a pretty good idea of how the filters I have stack up against the plots that the manufacturers publish. So I can compare my particular samples to the suggested transmission curve for the filter in general. So starting with the Ellen Hans, I found the full width half maximum, meaning the width of the pass bands was accurate, and they were also well centered. In terms of transmission at the emission lines, my filter looks pretty close, maybe just a few percent lower than the advertised peak transmission. But still in the high 80s, so I think pretty good. With the LXtreme, the 03 was well centered, the HA pass maybe just a tad off, but like I said, it's hard to say at my resolution of my spectrometer. And the peak transmission was in the mid 80s for both lines. So I think just a little bit lower than the published low 90s or 90% that Optalong suggests. The Antlia tested pretty well. The passes were well centered on the emission lines, and they were of the right width of 5 nanometers. The peak transmission for the H-alpha line looked to be above 90%, which was quite impressive. But the transmission on the 03 line was maybe just a tad under the advertised 85%. I think it was closer to 80% for my sample. Turning briefly to physical characteristics, the Ellen Hans gets points for being available in two inch, one and a quarter inch, and a Canon clip-in. It's the only one of these three filters that has the clip-in format available. It comes, the two inch version comes in a semi-clear plastic box with nice foam insert to hold it. The filter cell has minimal knurling on the top and is smooth on the sides. It measured 6.93 millimeters thick when you include the threads and 4.97 millimeters above the filter threads. Taking it apart with a spanner wrench, the glass filter itself measured 45.93 millimeters wide. Moving on to the L-extreme, the only difference is that it's not available as a clip-in filter. But in every other way, it's really just like the Ellen Hans, so I won't bore you with the details there. And finally, the Antlia ALP-T. ALP stands for anti-light pollution, but they also call it the golden filter because the coating on one side makes it appear gold. It comes in a sturdy plastic box with a magnetic cover and a waxed sleeve closed with a security sticker, and that's on the inside of the plastic box. It measures 7.2 millimeters thick with threads and 5.02 millimeters above the threads. The glass filter itself, if you take the filter cell apart, measures 46.46 millimeters wide. So now on to the real-world tests. These were all taken on the same night from my Bortle 8-ish yard in Somerville, Massachusetts, just outside of downtown Boston. There was a waxing gibbous moon out, and so the conditions, you can imagine, this is a very light-polluted sky. And these are all going to be shot at f5.4 with a focal length of 464 millimeters, and the target is the flaming star and tadpoles nebulae in a riga. To start out as a baseline, here is a half hour integration with a stock Canon T7, and here is a half hour with the Optalong L Enhance added in the light path with that still that stock Canon T7. And again, here's a half hour integration with the L Extreme now. And finally, a half hour integration with the Antlia ALPT. Okay, now let's turn to a full spectrum modified Canon 6DD. So, you know, this is a modded DSLR, but it could also stand in for a dedicated astronomy camera, which come already full spectrum. And here's the baseline there with no filter, and again, a bordelate sky with moonlight. And now with the L Enhance added, you can see a big difference. And now a half hour with the L Extreme, and finally the Antlia ALPT. Okay, so now that we have an idea of the shots full size, let's take a look at some side-by-side crops, starting with the Canon T7 and zooming in on the flaming star nebulae. And you can see with a stock camera that the reflection nebulae does come out a bit, even from a bordelate sky with moonlight. So that's pretty interesting. You can also see it, I think, a little bit with the wide band pass of 24 millimeters on the L Enhance, the O3 line. But reflection nebulae aren't really going to come through with the tighter narrowband filters like the L Extreme or the Antlia. And now let's look at that same crop, but with the Canon 60D full spectrum. On this one, you can really see the L Extreme and the Antlia ALPT are pretty neck and neck in terms of contrast and light pollution reduction. And they also have the tighter stars from the tighter band passes. So if you're after that, you can see a difference there. The tadpoles are a bit more interesting for this comparison because there actually is O3 signal in there. And I think all three filters did really well, both with the stock DSLR that you're seeing here and with the full spectrum Canon 60D, you're seeing now. All right, last side-by-side, we can look at the noise from the light pollution and at the bright stars in the field. This is from the middle of the picture. In terms of noise, since the L Enhance lets in more light pollution, you do get a noisier image even with identical integration time because after you subtract out that light pollution, you're still left with some photon noise from the light pollution. The L Extreme and the Antlia ALPT do look well matched in the regard of the lower noise and the higher contrast on the sky. There's only one halo that I see in all the pictures and it's on the bright star with the L Extreme filter. With the brightest star in the field, there is a little faint halo there. I can zoom in on it so you can see it a bit better. But I don't see it on that star with no filter or the L Enhance or the Antlia ALPT. So I think I can conclude L Extreme did cause the halo there. Everything that I've gone over in this video plus more is available in my reviews on my website astrophilters.com. All three reviews are up now and you can also examine the full size images and use this fun slider feature I just added to compare with and without filter. I will try to make these living reviews so if I come across any mistakes or things that need updating I'll update them on the website. So I hope you can check that out if you're interested in any of these great filters and I'd appreciate if you use my affiliate link. Now seeing all of my current members here on my Patreon campaign and if you want to see your name in the credits of future long Nebula Photos videos you can sign up over on patreon.com slash Nebula Photos. And we now have over 500 members so it's a big cool community and there are a bunch of benefits outside of just your name in the credits of long videos. Some of those benefits include I now I did one exclusive video and I'm working on a second exclusive video just for Patreon. There are monthly zoom chats where you can ask questions of me and other people on the chat. There is a discord community which is really cool very vibrant lots of stuff going on there including monthly imaging challenges with prizes a quarterly group imaging project we're all working on the same deep sky object together and patreon also has lots of different communication methods you can direct message me straight through patreon.com you can also do it on discord and so there's a lot of cool ways to connect and really get involved and so if you want to accelerate your learning further after watching some of my videos consider joining over on patreon and starts at just one dollar a month and again the link is patreon.com slash nebula photos till next time this has been nico carver at nebula photos clear skies


You will grow faster on YouTube if you understand relative audience retention. Not absolute. There's a big difference. Let me show you. In your YouTube creator studio, scroll down to audience retention in analytics and look at the relative audience retention right there. Not absolute. This tells you how often your video is watched at each moment relative to all other videos on YouTube of similar length. Obviously you want to be above average as much as you can. This particular video, which is my YouTube strike policies explained, did not do so well. Now if you look at the absolute audience retention, and I'll hide myself so you can see this, it looks pretty good. We have over one minute of the video that 50% of the people who watched it got to. But it is not so encouraging when you look at the relative audience retention because it's below average for more than half of the video. What's a better video? 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Today I have the pleasure all the way from Australia. We have Nick Erner from Alcane Resources. How are you today, Nick? Good, Tracy. Oh, great. Really enjoyed being here. Thanks. Well, I'm so glad you're here because I don't know that some of our audience may not appreciate how involved you are in the gold industry. So can you tell us a little bit more about the Tamingley Gold project? Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, thanks for asking me. It's a gold mine that we discovered through the 2000s because we have another active gold mine there at Peak Hill. We're talking about somewhere for the viewers, we're talking about somewhere that's about 400km from Sydney, about a four-hour drive from Sydney. And so there we have a gold mine. It's been open cut and we've produced roughly 70,000oz for the last four or five years, just transitioning undergrounds. This financial year, ours run July to June, we can do about 40,000oz then keep a bit under that level coming up from underground. It's been a really good income earner for us. So for those of you out there that may not appreciate you cannabis investors looking at gold, this comes to about what, 80 to 100 million a year? Oh, you're more than that of revenue, you know, 100 to 120 million a year of revenue, yeah.  And so we're trying to bring investor-intel audience members that have come from the cannabis sector ever to gold a little bit. So you're here at PDAC, what are you seeing? Well, it's really interesting, personally being in mining, I find this whole environment really exciting. What people might not realise is, people see our US gold that's going nowhere, they worry about Trump, you know, 1250, 1300 US, but Australian gold right now, 1850 bucks, 1850. With most Australian gold mines, for instance, our forecast cost production this year between 1050 and 1150oz, think about those margins, right? It's a real purple patch for Australian gold at the moment, very, very exciting, a lot of new projects coming along. And so here at PDAC, you know, we're interacting with other people, understanding what's occurring in Canada, what's occurring around the world, meeting with technology suppliers and of course investment people as well. So let me clarify, we have an Australian gold bull market basically is what you're seeing. Basically, absolutely, yeah. Okay, and what do you think it's going to take to get it over here to North America? The bull market? Yes. That's pretty interesting. Canada's a bit more bullish certainly than North America. I think what it's going to take is continued status quo as it is because it's an uncertain environment. People generally move to gold in an uncertain environment. So I think we'll start to see that come off and we're seeing Australian companies start to look outside of Australia because some of the best projects in Australia have been developed and that investment's gone in. So you've got free cash, a lot of cash being generated and we're starting to see that move offshore into stable jurisdictions like Canada and North America. So I think we'll see that across the coming year. So with that rising interest of course and people looking at you as leaders in the gold market right now, what would you say we should anticipate in spring for both the Tamingley project and for the gold market in general? So for the Tamingley project you should see us continuing to release results about we're going underground, we're on track, we're on budget, it's going well, we're generating more cash than we expected because that's what's occurring, that's been our general trend. We've just continued success in an existing producer transitioning to underground, that's what you'll see from us. In the gold market in general, I feel like we'll continue to see record gold prices, you know the quarters that are occurring now are amongst the highest quarters in history in real terms in gold price for Australian dollar gold. I think we're going to continue to see that largely as well and you'll see this tension as well between will I won't I hedge at these prices amongst producers. We hedged the same production, you know, a hedge book is in the high 1700 Australian, so yeah I think we'll see continued, a lot of continued interest in our sector in amongst the producers. Well Nick, thank you so much for joining us and for all of you out there in investor intel you want to be looking at gold and you want to be watching Alcain Resources, thank you. Thank you.


Hi everyone, Sean with jaspyscasebreaks.com here doing a team random randomizer that's going to fill up both origins pick your team number three half case break and Chronicles pick your team number one Which was a I think half case break as well So either way origins pick your team three or the Chronicles pick your team one Everybody's guaranteed a team top spot ends up with lots of teams closing out Chronicles pick your team number one and $1450 worth of spots, which is I believe 11 teams as you can see here So like it says Phil's origins three Chronicles number one guaranteed team top spot $1450 17 spots total will first randomize all 17 customers names only then match them with the list below Whatever spot you match up with is what team you get or teams in top spots position So top spots will in the 11 remaining teams in Chronicles pick a team number one other spots will all win origins teams So you can see the full list here top spots 11 teams and then from the Bears in second spot all the way down to Washington and spot number 17 and I've copied and pasted that list here next to the random next to the spreadsheet So we'll copy and here's the list of customers from Mike Tower down to Ben Hoda up in the prison 138 spot that he won We'll randomize only this list copy and paste that next to that spreadsheet that I already did whatever name Whatever team you're paired up with is what you get for the breaks So dice roll Three and it's four seven times guys. Good luck one two Three and seventh and final time on top Anthony Ventorino. Congrats Anthony. You're closing out Chronicles and From Brian down to Brian seven times on the randomizer Seven times on the dice and there you go. Let's make this large enough for everybody to see So Anthony Ventorino you get the final 11 teams in Chronicles football pick a team number one Congratulations, Brian Croft with the Bears in origins Mark Rowe with the 49ers Carl Martinsen with the Steelers Sean Maddock with the Eagles Adam cuproom with the Dolphins Mark Rowe with the Colts Ryan Heinz with the Cowboys Mike Tower with the Bills Ben Hoda for the Panthers Peter Aang with the Packers Joshua Idlis with the Giants Alec Harrison with the Lions Brian Croft with the Seahawks Raymond de Jesus with the Titans Adam cuproom with the Raiders and Brian Croft with the Washington football team And there you go guys that finishes it up. That was our team a random randomizer to fill origins pick a team three and Chronicles pick a team One I'm Sean jasperys case breaks calm origins three coming up next followed by Chronicles pick a team one Jasper's case breaks calm. Thanks for hanging out. See you next time


These are the challenges. Now, we will move to the sizing optimization of the these type of systems in a initial sizing basically in conceptual stage. So, because challenges that you have to take care of all the different aspects of the affecting parameters simultaneously. So, the requirement of there is a design methodology requirement. So, requirement should be such that whenever we feed the operational parameter or design parameter like wind speed because wind speed at that height will be different and even for the it will be different for the different lat long at some the same height say about 20 kilometers the wind speed at the Mumbai will be different from Delhi. So, it should be should we should consider that. So, the radiance will be different at the different location whenever we will talk about altitude latitude and longitude. So, each location at that height will be different power available will be different that will affect our the whole systems because if power available is high you will need a lesser solar cells will need a lesser power storing device. Geometric coverage ratio what is geometric coverage ratio can anybody tell geometric coverage ratio any guess no guess. This simply a ratio of something coverage must be a area. So, the ratio of two areas which are that is simple at basically two areas we have to consider envelope areas and another thing is the solar cell areas area. So, because envelope area will in affect the our structural mass and solar area will affect the power output. So, it is basically a ratio of solar area divided by the area of solar area divided by the envelope area that is called a geometric coverage ratio. Discharging time is the time when the power that power from sun is not available and you have to supply power from the battery that is the discharging time which will be a larger in winter and will be a smaller in a summer and it will vary around the globe due to the latitude and longitude ok. Now, office tender temperature because temperature that height will affect the buoyancy as well as the power output and purity of LTA gas to affect the buoyancy and efficiency of cells that is another major research area as general because the highly efficient solar cells will result a very low system weight. So, it is how much maximum efficiency is nowadays we get a form solar cells any guess maximum efficiency of the solar cells 20% it is 8 to 10% local people are researching in their claim they have claimed that 40-45% so it will be a big search output you know the significance of efficiency so also efficiency to light up a single bulb you will need a larger solar area because larger solar area it will accumulate and 8% of that will be converted and it will light up. So, if the efficiency is high see it is about 100% and the output is how much 500 watt per meter square. So, if we place a 1 meter square we will get a 500 watt but the 8% of that actually a problem. So, a big solar plate is required to light up the small lantern at night. So, the metallurgy requirement is this and it should be such that at the end while we give the payload requirement as well as the power requirement should give the size of airship what is the required size to overcome that payload as well as to power it metallurgy design should be able to give and most feasible shape for different requirement the shape will be different it will vary as I said earlier for the if the power is more power input is more and it is more important then it may might ends with some another shape maybe a 3D because when you will consider only power requirement what type of shape you will proposed any guess suppose we have to bother only about power how we can maximize that power output maximum area but maximum area with the different location orientation will not result a maximum output. So, it should be such that that at over the day the vector of the normal area vector of the profile of the it should be with the 0 degree angle ideally with the solar radiation angle get the point. So, it should be such that at each time it should be the 0 degree and you will get a maximum output otherwise cos theta is involved and it will bring down larger the cos theta minimum will be the output irradiance at least input so, but there is another problem as well drag. So, we have to take care of drag as well we have to take care of payload as well. So, what will be the optimum shape which will maximize the power output as well as payload output payload available payload as well as the minimum drag. So, the shape should be like that and what will be the different mass component with the different mass of the different component like a propulsion systems mass and a structural weight and storing energy battery weight it should be able to give design methodology should be such that. So, basically sizing methodology proposed that we can see it start from here and give some for the given payload and power requirement give some random length and calculate with the given parameter because the location you know and at that location you know that at the particular time as well because over the time over the date it will vary. Suppose at today is the what date of April the energy available at that height in Mumbai it will be different when we consider at some other date. So, for a given location and date the wind speed is available irradiance available temperature pressure and from that we have to calculate all these systems volumes and the volume will drive the payload and other in surface area with the size and surface area of ship will lead to the drag and as well as systems weight and we have to finally check whether the power requirement is met or not and if it is not then you have to go back and change the length and payload and power check both should be fulfilled otherwise you have to go and change the length do the iteration and if all the power requirement of payload are met then end with the calculation that is for initial sizing it is not in optimum sizing. So, for simplicity we can look at this problem. So, suppose this is actually a in pill shape given by the two parabola you know in pill shape how in pill shape is defined how in pill shape is defined as you say some shapes of the airship you know different shapes of the airship a standard shape profile there are some standard profile of the airship normal airship Gen V are W so it is actually a in pill shape it is a combination of two half ellipsoid with the same minor axis and different major axis. So, here this is different from these length same major axis and it is basically a ratio of root 2. So, we consider that and this is the area required suppose the XF is the final position of the solar cells and XS is the start position. So, the length is will be XF minus XS and angular coverage is zeta rA zeta all psi what used to say. So, whatever this so the angular so complete area can calculate. So, let us these are the design variable a b b is the radius of the airship at maximum diameter a is the same major axis and when you will multiply with a root 2 it will give the other side area length and so 1 2 3 4 and when you add a plus root 2 a it will lead to the L total length of the airship and the psi. So, 5 basically a 5 design parameters a b and zeta rA and XS and XF. So, these are the initial values for initial we have get from initial design now we have to optimize because the location will put XS and XF will affect the output we have to maximize that and coverage how much coverage will be required to fulfill the power. So, for initial sizing what you have said in the design this is the parameters for initial sizing. So, to fulfill the power requirement and payload requirement you will need a length of around 200 meters and with these types of this angle starting and ending total length of the solar cells and the other output parameters for initial sizing you can see for these are the input parameters the other output parameters. So, payload mass of 1000 kilometer 1000 kg and payload payload power of 1 kilowatt the these are these calculations are made and what we are getting is you can see the size of to produce such payload and as power you will need around 137 or 138 meter length of the airship and the thrust and the power required to overcome the thrust will be 31 kilowatt and the mass breakdown as I said a methodology should be able to give the mass breakdown of the systems. So, you can see around 50% of the weight is of the systems is due to its structure that is why the problem whenever we will decrease the GSM with the keeping the same strength it will give a better good result, good output and the storage weight is around third of the total systems it is another problem. So, when will we maximize the storing capacity of the RFC or lithium ion battery it will minimize that it will lower the systems weight and we will get a higher payload. So, these are the sensitivity analysis how different output parameters will be driven with the changing change of the input parameters that is actually a sensitivity of design parameters. So, you can see this is the weight percentage weight due to the RFC and the solar cells. So, whenever we will increase the energy density of RFC that means it can store same energy with the lower weight itself its weight that is the better. So, whenever we will increase the density capacity of RFC the percentage weight of the system will go down this 10 times you can see. Are you able to see this? No, and another thing is the when efficiency of the solar cell will increase the systems weight will go down you get the point systems will weight will go down. Now, see the variation of buoyancy with the length this is the weight of airship and this is the length variation. Are you able to see? No, I should have designed the light background. So, you can observe one interesting thing is that there is a minimum length of the airship required to overcome its own weight and below that length the system will be it will not even overcome its own weight and you have to get extra payload to carry the systems and other systems that is interesting. And another variation is that as simple volume with the payload with the volume as the payload is given by the volume and this is a linear relationship between the payload and the volume. So, move on to the next slide we see the effect of wind speed how much it affects at that height it is for 10 to 25 meters per second for the same size of airship say around 500 length and we are getting a very low drag and when the wind speed will increase to 25 meters per second the drag is about 8 volts that is the significance of wind speed and because the very big size and it is directly the half rho v square right now half rho v square it will go x square with the velocity to overcome the power and because power is required to propel the airship to withstand with the drag and to fulfill the power requirement by the payload. So, there is a minimum requirement of the length or size of the airship which will actually fulfill the power required. So, below that a length around 175 or 190 meters system is underpowered. So, now this earlier it was results for initial sizing and now we have to optimize we put the systems methodology in optimization to get the best result. So, the formulation is such that total mass we have to minimize the total mass of the systems while fulfilling the requirement of payload as well as power required. So, for the baseline case when we have not considered the optimization the baseline case was these for the same power requirement or payload requirement or after optimization we are getting this. So, the change we can see actually the purpose of optimization. So, are you getting our I think you are getting bored not you are not getting a point. So, it is almost so on the last site it is not the least but in last year we have seen in times of India about the high altitude airships. So, research are going on over the globe and it is a very potential area. So, that was talk. Thank you.


Hello everyone, my name is Peter Guns. I'm very excited to be here and to talk about new models for legal service delivery Technology to support such models and what it means for you. I Studies them practiced law in Europe Before attending Stanford law school and after graduating in 2011. I got involved at Codex the Stanford Center for Legal Informatics Now the mission of Codex is to create legal technologies that empowers all parties in our legal system Not just a legal profession Not just a legal profession. There's an interesting undertone to that. Isn't it? It's like we members of the legal profession have somehow gotten a bad name So I ran a quick check on Google and this was what I found So personally I became a lawyer to help people so I find this pretty saddening But that's the state of the industry today And I'm really glad to be in a room with a group of people who are here to think about how we can deliver a better client experience Even with limited resources now. Let's take a step back and look at some stuff. That's happening in other industries. We all know Hyatt 57 years old present in 50 countries valued at 8.4 billion dollars and seven years ago this company Airbnb came into existence It's now in 190 countries. It's valued at 10 billion dollars What's happening? Well, you know, there are three key enablers that make an Airbnb style network business possible It's the internet and global productivity Global connectivity. It's cheaper and mobile hardware and it's innovation in the software layer and in particular a point of sales Technology that allows you to do transactions online. Now, why does this matter? Well, what we're seeing is really a revolution where the power of networks is slowly transforming industries And this is happening across any industry I want to talk with you about some of the elements involved in successful networks because I think that if you as an organization Succeed in thinking and acting more like networks. You can help more people and increase your sustainability And then I'll take it to the real world with some examples So my team spent the last couple of years thinking about how to apply these insights in the legal industry and I want to tell you about three Ingredients that you need to build a successful legal network and the first one is liquidity You need buyers you need sellers you need clients and legal professionals not necessarily lawyers Well, in our industry, there's an abundance of people who need legal help But you as an organization also have the network of people Who have the skills and more importantly the willingness to help right on the seller or provider side The second component of any successful network is matching you may have clients you may have lawyers But how do you bring them together? Effectively we all know that skills and knowledge are often siloed and we're here because This process of finding information and the right provider can be much improved now the third pillar of any successful online Network and particularly legal networks trust and I think this is where you come into your own people already And trust you with highly sensitive issues at a difficult point in their life Technology obviously also has a role to play here a good design Feedback loops many other subjective triggers So I want to talk about an example one organization that we did an implementation for a justice bridge So they came out of Massachusetts The university and they're building a legal network for solo lawyers We're setting up new practices to serve modest means clients and this is what what what you just saw is what? Clients you when they go to the portal works on mobile works on web, but we can also integrate with an existing web presence now Justice bridge invited their panel of lawyers This is a completely branded experience So it's the justice bridge brand and text messages emails that we send there's an onboarding procedure It collects information about what these attorneys do and then the next step is these attorneys are invited to actually create Unbundled services within the within this platform. We're standardizing these services across the network We gather price information We're learning very interesting things like price experience Hardly any correlation to be seen seems kind of random sometimes another thing that Attorneys within this network are invited to do is create content So we build a content editor that allows you to embed videos interactive flowcharts, etc Really thinking about how can we make legal information accessible? Easily searchable, etc These services these guides these profiles they all lead to an intake system And you see it's very bare bones and the reason we can do that because there's a machine algorithm running behind us that will In case we don't know whether if you came through a specific service will actually parse the language put in by the client We'll automatically assign practice areas So the client doesn't need to answer that question now all these requests go to the admins of justice bridge They have access to a powerful dashboard there And they can very easily with the click of a button refer a request to an attorney in the network Or they can also just send a piece of information Which actually in 80% of the cases, that's how this how issues get resolved So a big team of this conference has been outcome data And we try to help our clients Keep tabs on this data. So we also provide an admin dashboard And you can also stream all this data to your existing case management system It's kind of our hope that if we get more organizations to succeed in thinking that net work like Networks that in 20 years when we ask Google about lawyers and the legal profession That opinions will have shifted in line with the intent of why many of us start practicing in the first place We strongly believe that the next stage of evolution in the legal profession It will not be a top-down kind of thing But it will be rooted in local communities such as yours and I invite you to Join us in building that future for the profession. Thank you Peter