psychological victory and that's why we need young women like Jessica you know Khalif 30 years ago when I became the rabbi at Oxford University I was one of the first people to see a lot of progressivism embracing the Palestinian cause at the elite universities which is where the pro-Palestinians students focused, Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, etc then students were much more active suddenly became a tsunami of anti-Semitism and we became the Illuminati Jews became a secret society take off your Yamakas, take off your Mug and Davids we need the exact opposite right now never be bullied by a bully we need to see a nation that believes in itself that knows that this is an existential fight and ultimately we are going to win all of these signs that I see all around digital that are so inspiring that has to be translated from a slogan into real activism on the campuses on the streets Israelis have to experience it American Jews have to experience and European Jews have to show it all right Rabbi Shmuely Boteach thank you for joining us on I-24 news I want to move to a story that it really demonstrates Ronit Farm used to be an upscale events venue just northeast of Tel Aviv but days after the terror attack at the Nova Music Festival on October 7th where some 260 people were killed it reopened as a rehabilitation center for survivors of that horrific incident in order for them to heal from their trauma Dixie Arvin has that story Ronit Farm was established as a response to the attack that took place on October 7th after Hamas terrorists infiltrated into southern Israel killing 1,400 people and taking over 240 hostages Leanna Orr founder of the rehabilitation center opened its doors for those who lived through and witnessed the horrors of the attack we opened this immediately not knowing exactly what we're going to need within the first day we had many many psychologists and psychiatrists and people came so frozen and it was so hard for them to be verbal so we had them sitting on pillows and we had them doing reflexology or singing with a guitar and slowly slowly they opened up within the first two weeks the center was able to treat over 2,000 survivors of the attack Ronit Farm aims to serve as a safe space for young survivors to talk about their trauma and encourages them to open up about their harrowing experience to psychologists and therapists surrounded by nature the farm allows young people to recoup and recover in a relaxing setting it's hard how do you carry on being normal after surviving one of the largest terror attacks in all of Israel although survivors are seeking help to overcome the atrocities of the attack it will not be forgotten well just a little earlier we heard from Israel's president Isaac Herzog as it turns out his wife Israel's first lady Mikhail Herzog paid a visit to that Ronit Farm today she spoke to I-24 news this is what she had to say we don't completely yet grasp the ramifications of the event because it was atrocities that we've never seen sites that we didn't experience and also the numbers the sheer numbers of the people that were affected and it's also a secondary effect it's not only the people that experienced themselves but also people that see the screens people that see the sites were all affected and I think especially the young people need to believe again in good they need to believe again that there are good people in the world because they saw evil in front of their eyes the most horrific sites that one could see they had friends killed near them they were shot at they feel that they survived something horrible and they need to regain their self-confidence and their confidence in others first lady Mikhail Herzog I want to come back to studio Yakov give us a sense of where you think the next few days are gonna go in terms of Israel's operations there in Gaza I think there are two main things to watch first of all the ground forces are moving into Gaza city they're probably already quite deep in Gaza city deep in Gaza city according to some of the statements that were coming out from both sides it looks like some of those units are well in Gaza city now there are firefights occurring inside Gaza city and that also explains the spike in casualties and as that pressure amounts on Hamas how that will express itself in negotiations over hostages is one thing to watch Hamas's regime I think will start to shake its control over the Gaza Strip is already under a serious question mark you couldn't stop almost a million people moving from north to south so this regime is on its way to collapse it's a dramatic development and the terror army is gonna hang in there for a while longer because it's built to sustain these kinds of blows and to keep going but slowly but surely in a very phased and measured pace the idea isn't going as fast as it can it's definitely going at half speed here but it's moving in a very consistent manner and then what we really have to watch at the same time is the decision that Hezbollah in Iran will have to make in the coming days when the operation intensifies will they enter the war will Hezbollah enter the war in a full-scale manner or not that threat in my opinion has not yet been lifted the decision has not yet been made and we have to be careful because the northern arena could theoretically end up becoming the primary war arena here aren't the signs though Ariel certainly the comments that we've heard today out of Iran indicate that Iran is playing a cautious game and perhaps we don't want to see Hezbollah again use its powder so to speak on a battle that is already maybe on its way being lost in Gaza well I think if we look at actions on the ground the head of the commander the Kuds Force in Beirut meeting with Lebanese officials obviously with Hezbollah leadership following the visit of Iran's foreign minister at the beginning of the war just shows how Iran is really micromanaging this event they're keeping tabs on all the different fronts and I think if they choose to have Hezbollah engaged in a full-scale manner it will happen it's all up to a decision by Iran in cooperation with Hezbollah and so they're in no rush obviously they run in themselves saying that they're not going to fight for the sake of others they want others to fight for their sake and so that's what's happening that's why we're also seeing an amplification of the Houthis involvement in what's going on it's easier to activate the Houthis than Hezbollah but indeed we're seeing that Iranians are trying different methods to see what works best, what engages Israel in different capabilities and no threat is off the table at this stage Alright Ariel Osteran, Yakov Lapin thank you for joining us on this broadcast let's leave you with another story of the volunteer spirit in Israel, two powerful women a Jewish social entrepreneur Bedouin Arab Israeli lawyer for social justice have created a joint program that has become a lifeline for Jews and for Bedouin Arab communities of the south that were most affected by the October 7th massacre Emily Francis went down to the city of Rahat where you could see firsthand the solidarity and triumph of that spirit even in the darkest of times in a show of unity that is beyond words thousands of Arab and Jewish volunteers are coming together for one common goal it's not about a war between Jews and Arabs it's a war between darkness and light and we have to use this opportunity to straighten the solidarity the understanding that we are in it together, that we are partners we are partners both in the heavy price that we paid and we are still paying but we are also partners in the healing process this is a strong message that we can send to all the world here that even that we are suffered and we are inside the struggle and the war still we believe in peace and we believe that we can live together and work together to save the situation here before the war Sheer Nozatsky, a Jew and Hanan Alsana an Arab social justice lawyer joined forces to create Have You Seen the Horizon the first Arab and Jewish emergency center in Israel little did they know that the tragic events of October 7th would turn their vision into a nationwide lifeline and the community center of Rahat Israel's largest Arab-Israeli city has become a sea of boxes supplies and unity between Jews and Arabs in the last two weeks we have been sending over 2,000 packages to families both Jewish families and Arab families that were hurt by the attack there are 50% going to the Arab society, 50% going to the Jewish society Fatima Qadar is a Bedouin Arab preschool teacher who is rolling up her sleeves and delivering supplies in her small Bedouin village called Qfar Zarnoq did you know that Bedouin Arab Israelis are among the hostages in Gaza and many were also brutally murdered on October 7th including a pregnant woman who was a mother of nine She was driving a car pregnant with her husband and an eight months old baby and she was wearing hijab an Islamic scarf and they were speaking Arabic and this attacker came and shot her and her husband I just spoke to him they let nine kids nine kids without their mother and he said they didn't care that she was not Jewish that she was Muslim that she was Arabic we're seeing how the world is reacting but what is the feeling inside in general of Arab Israelis in this country we are Arab and we have families also in Gaza and also in Lebanon and in Jordan there is a family like Fatoum that her family in Gaza killed from the bombs but still she's coming here and working to help support the families for Jew and Arab In Rahat in southern Israel Emily Francis, I-24 News Well it is important that we remember all the communities in Israel that have been both affected by the events of October 7th and after and also are contributing in the battle I just want to say a final word for those fallen soldiers who have given their lives outstanding young men in the battle in Gaza once more time I say may their memories be a blessing thank you for joining us on this segment on I-24 News and stay with the channel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking more than 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped help us we don't want to do we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity of an immediate cooperation with the lives of everyone this week on news 24 Israel under attack news 24 in Spanish brings the analysis and the information of the events of the war, sword of iron exclusive interviews and reports from the war zone the reaction of the Spanish-speaking countries news 24 the only medium in Spanish that keeps you informed and connected with the Latin community in Israel I-24 News guests here on I-24 News as we continue our rolling coverage day 26 of the war in Israel and day 5 of the ground operation the fog of war slowly fading the idea of getting deeper into the Gaza Strip and circling dismembering creating a new Gaza city envelope if you will enveloping and then tightening and then pressing some more it's not just a ground maneuver but maneuvering the ground and once you're in the risk of holding back might be greater than the one of moving forward and yes it comes with a price a painful one 16 Israeli soldiers have been killed in the fighting but a price is determined not just by the sum but by the worth and their families even in this most volatile stage of grieving are only asking one thing that's rather will not be in vain will not stop until it wins and when you listen to Hamas official Hazi Ahmad today committing to redo October 7th massacre as many times as possible it's clear there is no other choice let's take a listen to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier today we're in a difficult war it will also be a long war so far we have achieved important goals but there are painful losses we know that each of our soldiers is a whole world and I say to the dear families the entire nation of Israel is with you in your time of pain unbearably difficult grief we embrace you from the bottom of our hearts and as all of France are profoundly intertwined we want to begin this broadcast up north I-24 news correspondent Robert Swift with the I-24 news team there on the ground Robert another day back and forth if you will on the Lebanon border still in the frameworks of scrimmages it's been business as usual on the Israeli Lebanese border it's been quiet for the last 5-6 hours but prior to that there was an exchange of fire with Hezbollah forces using mortars and anti-tank weapons around the Shtullah community which is right on the border in the middle of the border region the Israeli military responded to this with aerial fire and with tank fire targeting the anti-tank team and the mortar team responsible for that fire yes Robert we are seeing a slow and careful progress in the south perhaps also to an extent not to give Hezbollah an excuse to get all in yeah it's kind of a waiting game here it's the impression given is that both forces are eyeing each other up across the border both are exchanging fire but neither one of them necessarily wants to get drawn into something larger Israel has its hands full in the south sees no reason to commit unnecessary forces up here if it can concentrate its firepower in the south and at the same time it's not clear yet that Hezbollah wants to fully engage wants to suffer the penalty that Israel will exact from it if it is to go full in there is a speech anticipated in two days time from the commander of Hezbollah Nazrallah many people are wondering if that will be a moment where he chooses to throw the dice to go in a bit deeper but it is unclear if that will be the case or if Hezbollah will be happy to continue gesturing as it has throughout this war paying their dues so to speak at this point in time and let's hope it indeed stays this way 24 news correspondent Robert Swift thank you very much for this and joining us now in studio for this broadcast Mr. Benjamin Anthony CEO of the Miriam Institute and our very own I-24 New Senior Middle East correspondent Darryl Osirand thank you gentlemen very much for joining us so as said at the beginning of the broadcast what we're seeing is an attempt to split the strip so to speak to seclude fighting areas and dividing the space simply put earlier this evening Ali Rear Admiral Daniela Garry idea of spokesperson he said that idea forces have broken through Hamas's front lines and front lines of defense in northern Gaza and earlier today one of the battalion commanders who are leading the force was leading the forces inside Gaza said that the forces are at the gates of Gaza city so let's break down the advance of the forces and where their activity is concentrating so we're talking about three main points of activity in the northeastern part of the Gaza Strip around the Bayt Chanun area now most of those areas are agricultural areas they're approaching the first line of homes that is that area now in the northwest we're talking about El Karame Bayt Lahia but also mainly the coastal road trying to make their way down from north to south the third and perhaps the key point of activity of idea forces right now is south of Gaza city in the Mitzarim intersection the goal here is to rush to the coast and basically connecting with the forces coming down on the coastal road basically isolating Gaza city and circling it but not only that also severing the Gaza Strip into two perhaps three sections now what to look for one is the chief of hospital it's believed to be the home of Hamas main command underground command center that's located here west of Gaza city as well as Jabalia where recent airstrikes have been focusing yesterday there was a significant airstrike that took down took out the head of the Jabalia forces we're talking about Ibrahim Biyari who was basically has been managing the fight on part of Hamas commanding the forces of northern Gaza fighting against Israel he was eliminated yesterday in Jabalia today idea forces taking out Muhammad at the head of Hamas anti-tank units the entire the commander of the entire anti-tank array was taken out and these anti-tank missiles are what's posing the most significant challenge to the advancement of the forces most of IDF soldiers who have been killed since Friday since the ground invasion began in a limited scope most of them have been killed in this manner and also another point to mention today the IDF dropping leaflets above Gaza to reiterate its call for the residents of northern Gaza to make their way south ahead of a pending ground invasion well before we we talk what's happening down south and further south to the border with Egypt let's you mentioned a real IDF spokesperson rather Daniel Agari let's take a quick listen to some of his remarks today as was published yesterday we eliminated the commander of the Jabalia battalion Ibrahim Biari he was a murderous terrorist who was also responsible for a significant area from which the terrorists left to the massacre of October the 7th but beyond that he was a senior terrorist who dominantly directed the fighting in northern Gaza we killed him his death occurred while he was situated inside the Jabalia refugee camp with dozens of additional terrorists in a compound with command headquarters and underground facilities was situated inside buildings within the civilian refugee camp striking him caused the collapse of the building and of underground infrastructure tunnels that was under the camp and caused the further collapse of the building structures this demonstrates again the cynical use the murderous terrorists are making as human shields of civilian population that we have called on to evacuate to the south for their own safety this is a cynical tactic that they will continue to employ as the fighting goes on I'm back here in the studio with Mr. Benjamin Anthony we're talking about the very tough envelope again of Gaza city urban fighting and also a different set of risks if you will let's talk about some of the positives that are going on when it comes to murdering and killing babies and women and children so forth obviously Hamas seems to have found itself equal to that task in the most appalling way when it comes to combating terrorists when it comes to face to face battles between the Israel defense forces and Hamas fighters or terrorists we are winning that fight very very clear there we prevail there we will continue to prevail and there actually has not been a single encounter in which we have not prevailed in the context of this war I'm not talking about the days of old I'm talking about right now in addition to that what's very interesting is you're not seeing Hamas leak pictures of dead Israeli soldiers or dead terrorists or any such thing why because when it comes to what they're seeking in terms of the propaganda war in the battlefield and interestingly enough they're also asking Gaza residents not to publish things online completely opposite to their strategy they are completely unable to claim anything that looks like victory whatsoever it's very very positive I also want to go back to the map that was shown it gives a very clear idea when one analyzes the satellite images coming out of the United States about where the fighting is over in those towns that were mentioned about 19 to 25 percent of the buildings were flattened by way of our aerial bombardment if you go down to the south however where the Israel defense was in the government is urging the Gazans to move to get out of the out of the striking zone if you will there's about three or four percent so all of those who allege that we're not keeping them safe when we urge them to move down south the Gazan civilians completely false the photographs prove it to be the case we are asking them to go where it's safe and we ensure their safety there and before I ask you to elaborate about the human it is dubbed humanitarian relief as if you're doing a favor but it is actually a tool to be used as part of the goals of the award the objectives of this war but before we address that mentioned the the American satellite and I want to segue to the American stance in this respect obviously there is a much evident American trauma from their experiences in Mosul etc and they want to prevent Israel from doing the same mistakes and yet there's a completely different ballgame because in Mosul for example you had ISIS fighters roaming the streets with weapons etc but here we're talking about ten years of well orchestrated underground infrastructure that was established it's not the same it's not the same and you've just expressed one difference let me talk about another difference the fact of the matter is that unlike in Mosul the troops taking the fight to the terrorists in this case are IDF soldiers what can the IDF soldiers see from their forward operating positions they can see the homes that they're defending they can see the people they're defending they can see the houses in which their parents live and to which they want to return in good conscience once the guns have fallen silent and that will come it will take a long time but that will come a key difference that quite frankly it's very difficult to understand if one hasn't actually served and fought here from our forward operating positions you can often times see the very homes that you're defending that didn't happen in Mosul No it did not and Ariel I do want us to talk about the humanitarian aspect later on this week this weekend your Secretary of State Blinken is going to arrive here once again and we know it is a pressing issue for the Americans and rightfully so perhaps it should also be an Israeli objective in the sense that it buys time and at this point in time you need time Indeed I just want on the heels of the last issue another key difference I think that we're missing out on is that ISIS was an external force to rule these territories in Syria and Iraq and they conquered it very quickly so they were ruling over people that weren't their own and they it took them not a long time to do it. In Gaza Hamas has been in power since 2006 they're entrenched deeply with a social infrastructure and they were voted in by the local population so that's why we need to keep an eye on it as well the Americans under war against ISIS conducted 18,000 airstrikes in Iraq 13,000 airstrikes in Syria and Gaza Strip is the most densely populated strip of land on the planet so that's to put that in context. Now as for the humanitarian situation and the different demands from the US we have seen today in a Qatar-immediated agreement the Rafah border crossing also allowing humanitarian aid to go in roughly 70 trucks but also for the first time since the war began to allow four nationals to exit the Gaza Strip the Hamas-controlled Gaza border crossing authority saying that the Rafah crossing will remain open until tomorrow to complete this extraction this is something that the Americans have pushed for significantly for that. As for the humanitarian aid I think the question the only the key question for Israel is whether down the line this will also include fuel. And we will get back to that in a second and also the point of course of foreigners leaving the strip and this is perhaps a hint to what is to come in terms of of patients from hospitals leaving to Egypt which will make it somewhat easier to address the Sheif hospital and many other hospitals that are being used as terror infrastructures but we do want to jump now down south that 24 news senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev joining us Jonathan that is the fifth day of the ground the idea of fighters reaching places that no Israeli soldier stepped on in over 20 years what does it look like? Yes, let's remember the Gaza Strip is a very narrow place meaning that if Israeli soldiers are in for what two and a half three kilometers that's roughly halfway from the border until the sea and this seems to be the what the Israeli army is looking for cutting the Gaza Strip at least for now into two the north from where civilians were asked to leave for weeks now to head to the southern region and of course the southern Gaza Strip this seems to be the aim of the Israeli army coming to the Gaza shores from two different directions and basically cutting it to two first would be taking care of the northern part then I would assume taking care of the southern part it sounds very easy when we speak about it but it's a difficult task which comes with casualties with prices we've seen that in the past 24 36 hours and this seems to be the plan and Jonathan we mentioned here in studio earlier the issue of the Rafa crossing not just in but now out are we likely to see more of this in the coming days? At least tomorrow for tomorrow the answer is yes it is expected to be open tomorrow for wounded people out of Gaza and for foreigners living in Gaza Americans and not only Americans to leave to Egypt at least until tomorrow it is said to open and of course for trucks sending in humanitarian assistance I'm hoping it's just medicine and water and nothing above that which could lead to which could fall into the hands of Hamas but then I can just hope that these are well inspected before crossing into the Gaza Strip Well let you hope it is more than just a hope it is a practice and I'm quite sure that this is indeed the case I-24 News Senior Defense Correspondent Jonathan Regev thank you very much for this and speaking to that point exactly Mr. Anthony the fuel is perhaps the archimedes point of this war it will all come down to this and we do hear those calls that there is no fuel and yet proof today that Hamas is still engaged in stealing it no other way to put it There's absolutely no truth to the idea there's a shortage of fuel Minister of Defense who I've guaranteed is updated about that particular issue on a daily basis why is he updated on that issue why does the Minister of Defense make a point of being briefed on that because his counterpart in the United States Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has telephoned him to repeatedly emphasise number one that activities be undertaken in a manner in accordance with international humanitarian law as though anybody needs to lecture incidentally the state's a visitor on how that's done we do that regularly and often unfortunately as we brought into these conflicts but second and yet it is good that there's a constant American monitoring on cooperation you know because time will come and answers will have to be provided and there you have an extra kosher stamp if you would and of course it's very easy to give lip service to the idea of humanitarian aid and the supply of fuel and so on and so forth while still giving full backing to the military operations taking place there I do want to say one thing though about the the access or the giving of humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip let's remember our first humanitarian cause here our first humanitarian cause is to get our hostages back from inside the Gaza Strip and I think and I'm not the only voice that thinks this is sounding its fist on the table and saying if there's humanitarian aid going in there are hostages coming back out those are our conditions you want food you want aid you want fuel even dare I say it we want our hostages back and we really need to emphasize that anything going into the Gaza Strip is conditioned upon a humanitarian gesture namely hostages coming back yeah again Israel perhaps the only country on this planet that has to be sorry when it is protecting itself had to apologize we do want to address now yet another front of this war if Hamas and Hezbollah were not enough the Houthis are now making making it their problem too chain of attacks by Iranian Houthis in Yemen which included the launching ballistic missiles and drones at Israel's southern tip haven't posed a direct strategic threat but there's our Middle East correspondents are also on their reports they could have consequences on other fronts and could force the Saudis and the Americans to take this launch as Israel deepens its ground offensive in the Gaza Strip and with controlled but escalating clashes in the West Bank and with Hezbollah in the north a new front is emerging but not exactly on Israel's borders our armed forces have launched a large barrage of ballistic and cruise missiles as well as a significant number of drones at various targets of the Israeli enemy the Yemeni armed forces affirm that this operation is the third in support of our oppressed brothers in Palestine more qualitative strikes with missiles and drones will continue until the Israeli aggression ceases the IDF said its Arrow air defense system intercepted a ballistic missile launched by the Iranian backtoothies in Yemen towards the southern city of Elat fighter jets downed multiple drones following another attack early Wednesday morning the IDF deployed a Navy missile ship to the Red Sea we are prepared on the Red Sea front as well as in every area of the state of Israel for defense we also know how to attack in the place and time of our choosing for any security interest of Israel anywhere we are required to operate in this violent show of solidarity initiated by Iran comes to prove the existence of a united front against Israel but maybe not entirely united as Iran's most hardline newspaper Kayhan published on Tuesday in editorial titled Iran does not go to war for the sake of others in other words let the people of Gaza Lebanon and Yemen die into fighting with Israel but not Iranians if this war is not stopped immediately and joint attacks against civilians the women and children of Gaza by America and Israel are not halted then the consequences for those who are waging this war will be grave the Houthis attacks are also meant to send a diplomatic message to neighboring Saudi Arabia and through it to Washington and the match lit in Yemen may force the Saudis and Americans to take a stance and perhaps even join the fray back here in the studio with Benjamin Anthony and Riela Saran well Mr Anthony the hint to what is happening down south perhaps lie rather of what happening up north lying in the far south as in Yemen because it's not Yemen it's yet another Iranian tentacle so maybe the use of the Houthis means another tentacle the Hezbollah can rest I don't know about whether or not Hezbollah can rest and I'll address myself to that in just a moment but the Houthis are a long time issue for the state of Israel because of course it's through the Houthis that Iran oftentimes smuggles contraband gets it to them they then move it up the Red Sea and it comes into Gaza through the Rafiq crossing it's a huge problem but I think what you're seeing taking place is this effort to distract the state of Israel and the Israel Defense Forces from the focal point that being the Gaza Strip so you're getting harassment on the northern border with Hezbollah you're getting harassment towards Elat now from the Houthis and that's going to continue I personally have to say and I've said it many many times I'm of the view that Hezbollah should be hit now by the Israel Defense Forces we should not be in this situation I'm amazed that we are where after we see our enemies so willing to initiate a conflict with us we have Hezbollah, we're awaiting word from Hasan Nasrallah who's going to come out of his banker and give a speech proverbially of course that should not be the situation for someone else to call the shots absolutely not, given what we've just faced we need to completely break the old conception of what needs to be done and we need to go and defang Hezbollah's aerial capabilities not completely, we won't get that done immediately but severely severely degrade them so that we can then act with greater impunity as I say inside the Gaza Strip let's get rid of that threat, let's reduce it and then let's focus on toppling Hamas and bringing our hostages home at some point you'll have to send northern residents back home and how can you do that when you have a ticking bomb a ticking bomb, that's exactly right because whether it happens now or in two years or five years a mother should please her child to go to bed at night and know that they're safe and this is going to erupt from the north sooner or later I say let's make the first strike now and you know what to that sense there's already a lot of talk here in Israel about the defense mechanisms that will be or should be established now to build the wall again and this defensive measure but if you will once again invest so much in guarding yourself it means security is not restored theoretically speaking we should reach a point Israel rather should reach a point in which it can block a line and descend and no one will cross it two days ago I was in Mishmar Ha'imek which is a kibbutz that's taken in the residence of Nachal Oz and I was sitting there with a young man by the name of Amir Tibon he's been in the headlines because his father Noam Tibon who was the former commander of the northern formation came and saved him and his daughters when their house was being raided by these Hamas terrorists and he said something very clear he said this war will only run and we will only be willing to go back to Nachal Oz when I know that I can let my children play in the fields there without fear what does that require it requires the toppling of Hamas completely will that be achieved I frankly don't know Ariel before we take a quick break what is the biggest challenge now when we're talking about the fighting industry the biggest challenge is the advancement of the forces they're being targeted mainly their armored vehicles are being targeted by anti-tank guided missiles albeit Israel took out the head of the entire anti-tank array of Hamas today we're talking about Mohammad Atsar but obviously as what we're seeing now is preparation for a more significant perhaps a second wave I'm not this isn't a secret because this is what the IDF dropped in leaflets in Gaza earlier today but the advancement of the forces establishing points of points deep inside the Gaza Strip that is a significant challenge because you have an even Hamas today shared video footage of their terrorists coming out from under the ground sometimes adjacent to the forces sometimes even behind the forces they're out exposed one two minutes tops they shoot their anti-tank missile and then they're making their way back underground and so that is a significant challenge as the forces move forward and that's a challenge that is going to they're going to be faced with throughout this campaign because beneath the Gaza Strip there are hundreds perhaps thousands of kilometers of tunnels and again ten years of investments in those terror infrastructures now coming to the moment of truth we're taking a quick break but we'll be back with our rolling coverage in a few don't go anywhere follow us as Israel fights terror from the south and north get the inside scoop on what's going on only on I-24 news I'm back to this special broadcast here on I-24 news now until a month ago Israel was torn over issues that seems to belong to a different universe for example what their females should be allowed to serve in certain combat unit well after you'll watch this I'm pretty sure you too will say case closed on that Saturday morning as they rampage through southern Israel dozens of terrorists also attack the city of and tried to take over the police station one of the police officers at the station was master sergeant more Shakuri a 29-year-old resident of the city she called me and said mom it's important for me that you know that if I don't survive I love you I love dad and take care of my sister when they realized that there were terrorists outside the station several police officers went up to the roof and fought them from there they remain there for 8 hours fighting a non-stop battle while steroids standby squads fought the terrorists from the outside her commander came to me at 7 o'clock and told me she let us said how many were injured she was a medic with everyone and believe me I didn't even feel that she was in distress I know more she does not give up if she was a coward she would be alive with me Moore was supposed to get married in June to her partner David he's also a police officer she was killed during a battle she was leading and she shot terrorists and rescued the wounded and in the end protected the residents of the south it's not something giving us the strength that in the end she fought until her last minute and was a hero they found her with drawn pistols 4 cartridges on her do you understand and with all the pain I'm proud of her that she contributed and safeguarded us for 4 years we were on the same path she was simply a fighter the late captain Edyn Neemery a squad commander in the artillery corps was supposed to complete her service as a swimmer but decided she wanted to serve as a fighter on Saturday morning she was with her team at the base in Naha'oz when terrorists broke into it we got up on Saturday with the intention of having a picnic at the base at the outpost which is not her outpost she has been serving on the northern border for the past year she had just replaced a team that was there on holiday and we planned to come to her to have a picnic there when they realized that the base had been infiltrated she and her team in bed and barefoot in pajamas they went out to fight the terrorists Edyn and her team ran to the protected area where they already found something like 30 terrified female observers she and four female warriors were the only ones with weapons she took the side that was closer to the entrance and everything was quiet and with the gestures she pointed where to aim drew the weapon terrorists entered and her female warriors and Edyn eliminated them the photo that Edyn actually took as you can see that at first she was really with them on this side if you think it was a protected broom well she was initially on the exposed side and then she jumped to the other side to cover the other opening Edyn stayed fighting and was killed by terrorist fire only two and a half days later did her family receive the notification of her death she was always a fighter always wanted to be equal among equals swimming, whether in theater whether in school graduation ceremonies she didn't feel unequal she thought she deserved it she was always ahead I am angry with her, yes she shouldn't have been there on Saturday morning 90 newly enlisted recruits were at the Zikim base at the gate sergeant Edyn Alon Levy a rescue fighter was with one of the rookies she immediately understood the danger about 10 terrorists arrived there equipped with RPGs, grenades they started shooting at them and the staff the officers joined her in the battle her entire staff fell with her six including Edyn along with another recruit were killed in this battle and managed to prevent the occupation of the camp and save the recruits I think that Edyn's story undoubtedly proves how much female fighters can do and even more I am just proud of her and hope I can be as brave as her yes, she is simply a hero everyone's hero Edyn had finished a military training course two months ago and was supposed to go on to officers course in addition, she was supposed to go to pilot training in a week after she decided that there were other targets she hadn't conquered what do you miss the most? that she came here to harass me even when I didn't have the strength you come here and just run out of energy get straight into bed and she just come, yell at me like, what's going on in this I miss her teasing, she should come and tease big time I just want her to come out in this war more and more heroic stories of brave women are being reported we know so far that 37 female soldiers were killed 7 female police officers a shin bet woman and a paramedic on duty women who paid with their lives while others continue to fight even now and so with us here in studio Mr. Benjamin Anthony, CEO of I-24 News, Senior Middle East Correspondent Doreal Osiron and also joining a semester Daniel Shek, former Israeli Ambassador to France thank you gentlemen so very much for staying and joining us Ambassador Shek I do want to begin with you because the US is illustrating a very clear line here a new axis of evil if you will Saudi Arabia will have sooner or later two sides and judging by its more than careful, more careful than careful behavior let's put it that way since October 7 it seems it's not the swan song for the normalization bid we're all guessing now because everything is in turmoil and nobody can make a real assessment but my guess is that strategically the goals of Saudi Arabia have not changed to cut a deal with the United States a very far reaching one and that includes normalization with Israel for two reasons one it's in their interest they are interested in it and the second is that the United States will need such a normalization agreement now this might be complicated because we're getting closer to the American election we don't know how long this war will last because clearly while the war is lasting all this is on hold it's not off the table but it's on hold and time is not in favor of all this so it might get a little bit more complicated down the road but if you want the most optimistic scenario then this big regional deal might be part of the exit strategy from the war and I do want to circle back or rather connect the dots here Ariel Asaron to the Houthi component of what we're seeing now it's definitely an act of Axis solidarity if you will it's not really changing the course of war when it comes to Israel Hamas but it can reignite these Saudi Iranian tensions very easily two things on that point one, just a few moments ago the spokesperson for the Houthi Ziaheh Salih so he announces that the Houthis launched what he calls a large batch of drones were launched during the past hours at several targets deep within the Zionist entity in other words for Israel the idea has not commented on this yet we know that all the interceptions that have taken place they were far away from the city and so this could have happened and we haven't heard about it yet but we're waiting for confirmation from the IDF now as for where the Saudis find themselves in this equation so they've been fighting the Houthis for years now and haven't been able to really break them they headed an international coalition with the UAE and other actors but there's been a ceasefire for just over a year that ceasefire was broken lately and over the weekend four Saudi soldiers were killed and they're on full alert on the border with Yemen and so not only that, the Saudis also intercepted five of the ballistic missiles that were launched towards Israel that is an issue that is under-reported and should be mentioned that not only the US found Houthi drones and ballistic missiles but also the Saudis and that shows where they find themselves it has been reported but it's under-reported it is a very significant deal and I think the fact that the Iranians are activating the Houthi card will force the Saudis to take an active stance maybe faster than they would have liked to and that continues to progress and I do want us to say in the Gulf but shift the focus Qatar continues to play servant of all masters more than two everyone who wants really but when it comes to the hostage release efforts Mr. Anthony the contacts and again it comes on the heels of not just the Mossad chief visit in Doha for minister the contacts the flow is more or less as follows the American envoy is pressing the Qataris who in turn press the Hamas leadership abroad sitting in Doha and then they are applying pressure on Iqiz Sinouar in the Gaza Strip broken telephone so to speak bottom line being Mr. Anthony that by the time that the message is getting to Iqiz Sinouar it is much much softer I think there's a bigger problem to all of this quite frankly I think that the major problem is the dynamic that you've described results in one thing the state of Israel is not in charge of this negotiation it isn't even in some cases an active participant let alone being in charge that has got to change and that's why I said to you earlier on in the program that any humanitarian relief that's provided to the Gaza Strip must be conditioned on something back from the Gaza Strip in return namely that for which we've gone to war in part one of the primary goals of this war hostages coming back to the state of Israel safely we are seeing a ratcheting up of the psychological warfare by Hamas they're talking about releasing trunches of hostages they're talking about being close to releasing 50 hostages at the time last week this cannot be allowed to continue humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip must result in hostages coming home and later on in the program we'll really talk about something that is mind blowing the odacity of the Red Cross who is not demanding answers regarding the status of nine month old Kfir Biba now ten month old very soon because nearly a month in captivity by Vile Hamas he's not insisting on information about his well-being but is insisting on making sure that the security prisoners in Israel will will receive humane treatment we will get back to that in a second but I do want us to talk about another player here perhaps a more silent one when it comes about being proactive yet very crucial Jordan recalling its ambassador today Mr. Shekin also telling Israeli Foreign Minister you know what don't bother sending your envoy back to Amman is it merely symbolic or relations at serious risk well even if it's symbolic symbolic it still counts I mean it matters certainly in diplomacy and certainly when things are very sensitive as they are today so yeah it's a significant move I can't say that it's a terribly surprising move there's a lot of pressure I mean there are bigger experts than I am on Jordanian realities but clearly this is a difficult moment for the Jordanian regime there's a lot of pressure mostly internal and this is sort of the strict minimum in order to try and appease potential rioting and potential mass demonstrations honestly I mean I look I hear many Israelis shocked by demonstrations around the world in the western countries and so on they are infuriating and they are annoying but they don't really concern me riots in the Arab world do concern me because they can have a real impact on the policies of their governments which is not the case in western Europe and I'm just hoping that this is not going to get out of hand because it could kick us back 40 years in our status in the region if it jeopardizes the peace agreement with Jordan and possibly even with Egypt then that is a really big problem I just want to say in response to what the ambassador said and thank you for bringing his diplomatic experience to the table I take a different view on what was just described I think that the riots that are taking place in America are infuriating as the ambassador said there should be a deep, deep concern to anybody who is interested in a sustained strategic alliance with the United States of America which is clearly our most important strategic partner in the world the fact of the matter is that what goes on on the street does pull politicians to heal and what's going on on the campuses those students of today will be the policy makers of tomorrow they are anti-Semitic in many cases they are anti-Jewish, they are intimidating the Jewish people and that will bleed into the political realm so I just want to say I don't think that we can say that what's taking place in Europe and in the United States is million infuriating it poses a very real risk to us and yet perhaps just to add or underline what Ambassador Sheik was saying the Defense Minister reiterating the importance of transferring the money to the Palestinian Authority as a stabilizing actor in curbing potential uprising in the West Bank which is always an option on the table so perhaps in this respect also the incentive to curb any uprising there is of paramount importance but we do want to pause just for a minute from all the strategic analysis and the tactical thinking and talk about what's happening inside of us another key component of the long enduring war remember Bialik it's not those rags atop of a mast that make the ship going but the wind or rather the spirit as it goes in Hebrew we're heading now to Talia Levanon CEO of the Israel Trauma Coalition thank you very much Talia Levanon for joining us well we're facing a new wave of loss no really other way to define it and after the shock and the horror of October 7th now it's the soldiers in Israel it means our sons and our brothers and our fathers and what keeps striking me Talia as we open the broadcast that we mentioned it is what the families of those brave soldiers are saying that they only wish for one thing that their death will not be in vain a very big expression we're talking about a very big population that has been exposed for a very long time to loss and grief and now also anxiety and trauma and we are not at the end of anything yet we still have a lot of uncertainty ahead nobody knows what will happen in the next few weeks and that adds to the anxiety plus there is the psychological effect of the hostages and so many of us are holding our breath while dealing with the loss people lost their homes not only loved ones they lost part of their families not only soldiers and so this is a very a very crucial moment psychologically and emotionally for many of us absolutely and then it is all of course still ongoing and we're all under immense stress obviously but it is also perhaps important to differentiate between the understandable anxiety and gloom and what perhaps needs medical attention and that these are different levels of mental distress so currently the anxiety and the fear people are feeling are very normal and it needs to be addressed that it is normal people should know that what they are feeling whether it's anger or shame or fear or even physical reactions is very normal and it should be acknowledged and it should be legitimized for parents to say to the children it's okay to be afraid it's okay to cry and for people themselves to say it's okay and you think the majority of people are suffering from normal reactions to a very non-normal situation as Victor Franklin coined this is really and not a normal experience beyond beyond anything we could we couldn't have thought about this and so people are reacting in a very strong way to a very difficult situation but there I believe that we are slowly finding some threats to basic values of compassion and humanity which are very important and hope which are very important and perhaps before we let you go briefly Talia if you may amidst all this darkness there's a great great light the sense of togetherness if you will how can we maintain it how can we utilize it into a sense of both individual and collective resilience because again it has a great importance when we're talking about the war itself underground that all those people the home front will remain resilient I'm a very optimistic person usually but one of the main things that keeps the sense of hope and resilience is the feeling of community and the support which is a little difficult to maintain while people are in different different separate hotels some communities are divided into two or three hotels so it's not very easy feeling safe in a hotel room it's not like feeling safe but still we do find as I said we do find I wouldn't say a big light but we do find some support and a lot of a lot of evidence of sharing the same experience and the moving on together Tanya Levinon thank you very much for speaking to us yeah and may we all find a way to stay resilient and together to stick together very much more important than all else thank you now back to diplomacy Jerusalem is perhaps the opposite of Vegas whatever happens in Jerusalem never stays there every single country have something to say right so now Bolivia is severing ties with Israel threatening to trigger a Latin American domino effect let's take a listen based on its principled stance of respect towards life Bolivia has decided to break diplomatic relations with the Israeli state in repudiation and condemnation of the aggressive and disproportionate Israeli military offensive taking place in the Gaza Strip which threatens national peace and security Ambassador Shek also chili in Colombia recalling on voice today but interestingly enough ambassador and perhaps my observation here is not accurate please correct me if I'm wrong you're never wrong you'll be you'll be surprised sir but yeah alright so perhaps the opposite of what we're saying in Europe in the sense that the leadership there the administrations are siding with Israel very intuitively very easily so to speak the masses not so much in Latin America in many places at least it's somewhat the opposite the people like Israel the administrations not so much yeah well I've never served in Latin America so I'm not I'm not completely familiar with the general atmosphere on the streets but it has to be said that it's a region where relations with Israel in several countries are fragile yes for quite a while and in many cases these are sort of extreme left-wing governments that simply don't like the idea of of Israel and take sides very clearly for the Palestinian cause some of them have large Arab and even Palestinian communities in their countries domino effect could be but it has limits because there are you know Brazil I mean with all due respect to Bolivia yeah incidentally I'm part of the forum of the families of the abducted people and we arranged for a zoom meeting with president Lula for several families cannot be blamed for being in Israel into a specific and so but there are casualties diplomatically and there will be a few more and they could I mean not in the same manner but in Western Europe you might you might reach a point where with certain governments without obviously severing relations or anything like that relations will become more strained and simply administrations becoming more critical and that takes us back to the timing issue to the diplomatic clock if you will Mr Anthony how can Israel elongate it on the one hand and also make sure that its objectives are reached within a certain time frame that we know will not last forever you know I'm sorry that I might cross here as a bit of a prophet of doom and I know that everybody wants to bang the drum of Hossin and unity and so forth but you raised a very interesting point earlier on in the broadcast we've come to this war at a deeply disunited point in the history of the state of Israel those rifts I'm afraid still exist and those rifts are going to start to show as our soldiers return from the battlefield some of them dead injured and so forth we have a prime minister with very divided levels of support across the electoral spectrum here in the state of Israel I think one of the things that would definitely help with this clock and in terms of how much time we have to operate is if these ministers actually got themselves to these funerals if they actually went and visited with the families if they actually like the prime like the ambassador just said that he is engaged in working with the people who remember Ariel Sharon once going and being filmed at a funeral he was actually at the Shiva of somebody who was killed during the second Intifada and he was screamed at and yelled at by the family but he was there and he absorbed it and you agree with that


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I think one can clearly say that this is in terms of future outlook this is basically the end of a nuclear strategy internationally like the nuclear industry of course has operating reactors and there will be jobs in the nuclear industry for decades to come because of operating facilities and decommissioning and dismantling facilities but in terms of an industrial strategy for energy policy this is pretty much the end of nuclear power. The United States are still the largest operator of nuclear power plants there are 104 reactors operating that's almost a quarter of all reactors in the world so it's a very major player right now and it's providing about 20 percent of the US electricity however even before Fukushima a major shift was happening and if you look at the ratio of renewable energy based plants that have been added to the electricity grid in 2004 it was only 2% and this skyrocketed over the following years and by 2009 it was over half 55% of all new capacity added in the United States in 2009 were renewable energy plants. China is the only country in the world that is really massively currently massively building new nuclear power plants 27 of 64 worldwide listed plants under construction are in China however China builds all kinds of things not only nuclear power plants and interestingly enough if you look in 2010 China spent 38 billion euros equivalent 38 billion on renewable energy 38 billion and is the number one country as of 2010 in investment in renewable energy at the end of 2010 China had 4.5 times more installed capacity in wind turbines alone than nuclear power plants 4.5 times which means that even if you consider that the generation by of electricity by installed capacity by megawatt let's say is lower of course from wind than from a megawatt of nuclear power it's very likely that in 2011 China will generate more electricity from wind turbines than from nuclear power. Well I believe that the decision that has been taken by the German government is a decision that will reorient leadership in this area considerably. It's always interesting to look at the financial markets how they react to political announcements and you know as soon as the German announcement was made the stock values of renewable energy companies just boosted and you know you have the same kind of effect reverse after Fukushima that all the nuclear stock market values went down the drain so I do believe that we will seek a competition led by the German government by the German policy and the Japanese not to forget the Japanese because they're not as aggressively promoting a shift but there is a very profound energy policy shift in preparation in Japan.


Nice to meet you all sort of, it's a little weird because you're there and I'm here. I want you to stand up before I start. I know you just sat down and you were like, I was just getting ready, but like, okay. I'm going to talk a lot about what I think the next generation of infrastructure is and I put in a talk title called The Evolution of Automation and the thing I realized is I was thinking about that topic was that in order to talk about it I had to actually talk about a bunch of feelings these stuff instead of a bunch of technology stuff so I'm gonna talk about a bunch of feelings these stuff and when I do that I'm gonna use words like you and we and I and that sort of thing but really what I'm talking about is you so whenever I use any of those words it's like the royal you so if it sounds if I say something you're like that doesn't apply to me it's super does and I'm talking to you that makes sense everybody's cool okay sit down so I think everyone in this room regardless of where you work if you work in a tiny startup if you work in a big web company if you work in a giant enterprise we're all on this journey to figure out how it is that we can do a better job helping our customers have better experiences and better lives right and those customers sometimes they're internal sometimes they're external and sometimes you can see them sometimes you can't but we spend a really disproportionate amount of time if you think about it on the infrastructure and on the setup and on just all of the stuff that we do to run all the things that get that stuff out to those customers and when we look at the struggle that we're all going through to figure out how to do that better what we're really doing is trying to build these high-performing teams all I just want to figure out how are we gonna come together how are we gonna build teams that work together to deliver that stuff better faster smarter more fun right all of those sorts of things and software helps us to do that so it's not just us as people working better together as teams it's also the technology that we use trying to reinforce the behaviors that that allow us to get that stuff done at the software level and while we're doing that we tend to run into to a problem and I call this problem the production cliff and so to illustrate this it's it's pretty simple let's pick a technology let's do Docker everybody use Docker right of course you do because it's Docker um so and odds are high you picked up Docker in the last year and people picked up Docker in the last year the same set of hands okay so so here's what your experience probably was for Docker this one was mine so you start out and you pick up Docker and you type Docker run it some piece of software you wanted and then you hit enter and then it runs and you were like yeah that was amazing like it downloaded an operating system and like I had a service in it and like it ran and that was what I wanted it's what I always wanted the time that I typed like yum install Redis what I wanted was Docker run it Redis and now I'm happier like things were cooler and you were like this is the best and so then you start climbing up this hill here right and it gets a little more difficult you're like yeah okay I'm gonna go now I got services and five Docker containers I got compose and like you start piling stuff on and it feels pretty good and you get to what I call the peak of false hope so the peak of false hope is that little arrow right and the peak of false hope is the moment where you think you've seen all there is to see you're like I got it Docker check right and then you're like you know what Docker's rad you know we're gonna do we're gonna go to production you guys ready let's hit production this could be chef it doesn't have to be Docker it could be it could be anything it doesn't matter right I know this happens with chef so I'm not picking on Docker unnecessarily my own software I wrote it 10 years of my life this will happen to you too okay so you're up to top and you're like this is amazing and then you're like let's go to production and then it's like oh no right immediately the shenanigans begin where it's like well what about this what about that what about this thing hey how does that work does this thing scale is that highly available how will this work and you sort of go through this list and it starts to go down you're like oh maybe I didn't see everything that there was to see and then you you hit the bot you hit what you think is is you're like okay it gets a little easier actually like there's that first bump and then it's like huh okay it's gonna be okay go to production we're gonna do 150 that worked 150 is good and then you're like okay let's go to the data center and then like it just skyrockets in difficulty right and and that difficulty is a real real challenge for us as an industry because when we think about how our software is built that thing happens for every single piece of software that we built all of them and that's that's that's pretty tough this is Dark Souls 3 how many people here have played Dark Souls 3 okay if you're if you're not a video game person Dark Souls as a series exists to sort of be mean to you like like if you like I grew up playing video games I grew up playing like Nintendo and there was Nintendo games that were super hard like Bionic Commando where like people either figure it out or they don't and people who didn't figure out like what a stupid game with a little guy with a little arm and like then people to figure it out we're like this is the best game I've ever played it's so hard um Dark Souls 3 is like that and this dude in the red over here I'm the guy in the left basically with the silver armor and that guy with the red is a bad guy and that guy kicked my ass for 24 full hours and he's not a boss he's just a dude he's just like a it's literally like if you're playing Super Mario Brothers and one of those little mushrooms just beat the crap out of you for 24 hours right and I I was so hard and it was and I just could not figure out what I was doing wrong and it was just it was brutal and awful and so I stayed up for like a whole day I have a kid and you know I like ignored them my family I was like I'm gonna kill this goddamn night right and I get to the end and I do it 24 hours and it's late at night you know my family's asleep and I killed that night and I was man it felt so good like I remember what it felt like when my daughter was born this felt like that it was like yes you know like I had done I had made an accomplishment in my life right and and I talked about it the next day I went back I was like have you played Dark Souls 3 this is the best I've ever played now meanwhile this game abused me for 24 that I was not it wasn't fun right but because I triumphed I felt amazing I was like this was great and now I get to go to conferences and I get to talk about how much I liked Dark Souls 3 because this dude beat me up and that's the same thing we sort of do when we think about deploying stuff like chef or like Docker or all those things we get up in front of our peers and we talk about the incredibly difficult hill we climbed and then we're like you can run doctor production it's easy I do it what's what's wrong I rolled it right and it's because we love things that are hard right it's not just we don't like simple things everybody can do simple things what we like and what we talk about and what we want to share is when we overcome difficult things but I'm not talking about the kind of fun like Dark Souls 3 is a great video game and I did actually really enjoy it and you do feel really good when you deploy Docker production but I'm not talking about that kind of difficulty I'm talking about the difficulty where you will spend time away from your family where you're where that pit of your stomach is eating you up with stress because you're worried that this decision you made will ruin months and months of effort in your multi-billion dollar company will ruin the startup that you took money from and the finances that you took the cash from and the people that you hired and they won't have jobs anymore I'm talking about the stress where how many people have had a fight with your significant other simply because you were stressed out of work and they were the person you love the most and it felt safe to take it out right it's the worst of me like I don't like that person but that person happens when the equivalent of Dark Souls 3 is happening to me at my job how many people here said you hate software in the last 30 days yeah 60 90 days anybody not raise their hand okay I was just looking you're a liar okay so there's a Zen story about a man on a horse and he's galloping along on this horse and he's going really fast and he sees his buddy at the crossroads and he yells out to his buddy he goes hey the buddy yells at the guy on the horse he goes hey where you going and the guy yells back I don't know ask the horse and no laughs come on it's funny it's then it's supposed you're supposed to laugh later okay so the the thing is that in this story the horse is technology right it's going where it wants to go and we were along for the ride and this guy is Tich Nad Han Tich Nad Han is a Vietnamese Buddhist monk he wrote an incredible book it's called the miracle of mindfulness it's a collection of letters that he wrote back to his brothers during the Vietnam War when he was exiled about how to remain mindful in the midst of horrific destruction and death and this incredible human being who was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize by Martin Luther King spoke at Google that's how weird the world is and this is what he had to say he said if technology can help you to go home to yourself and take care of your anger to take care of your despair take care of your loneliness if technology helps you to create joyful feelings happy feelings for yourself and your loved ones it's gonna be going in a good way and you can make good use of technology and I think that what what he's talking about here is that we have a choice we can either take control of that horse and we can decide intentionally what the technology is that we're gonna build and how we're gonna build it and the impact it has on our lives or it will do that for us and we probably won't be happy with the results and software is a part but not all of who we are and the thing that will get us to the next place the thing that will get us to the next level that will change the way we think about how we work and it will change the way that we do that work is to think intentionally about the software that we build and to think intentionally about the culture we build around that software and I think that ultimately we need to strive to build humane systems and these are systems that show compassion for ourselves and show compassion for other people they show benevolence and grace and for us and for other people by grace I mean when people don't understand or when they struggle we give them space and we help them through when we get them to the place they need to be when our technology falls down and isn't what it needs to be we find a way to make it better and then ultimately the systems we build the technology we build has to help us to become better if the technology we're using doesn't reinforce the behaviors we want to see in ourselves and the behaviors we want to see in others then it's bad technology and we need to replace it ultimately we're not going to get where we're going with the patterns of how we've gotten here right we have roughly 30 years 40 if you stretch it of history of IT ever period and in that same path that we took to get here we will not get to the next phase of where we're going and luckily we have everything we need to be really innovative at this moment in history we have perspective we have history there's a ton of cross-disciplinary activity we have stuff we need to invent a better future and so if we want to do that it starts with our culture and then it goes to our technology and both of those things reinforce the people in the middle so human beings go to work you do your thing think about if you wanted to change the speed with which you deliver software in your company you wanted to make it easier to deploy so that there were less shenanigans and better for your customers and you didn't have to have fights all the time but you were refused to change any of your foundational technology how do you think that project's gonna go right like it's gonna go terribly badly and you see this all the time where you know a company thinks a company decides that they need to compete and they need to go faster but they refuse to look at their security and compliance policy right what do you think's gonna happen like it's all gonna fall apart because it's this reinforcing cycle so I think if we're gonna build better software and build better things it's actually a very simple way to do it this is a thing called a buntu not the operating system but the spirit of more of the philosophy and it's very very simple it just is I am because you are right and it's corollary is when you suffer I suffer and when you thrive I thrive and this is a very simple very African idea and at its root what's beautiful about it and why I think it can be helpful in the way we build software is this no one has to take a certification you don't have to go to a class you don't have to go to a retreat you don't need to go to a DevOps days if all you did was sit in your job and think to yourself is what I'm doing causing other people to suffer am I am I alleviating their burden or am I adding to it right and if they're hurting then that's gonna come back on me someday and like we're not getting we're not progressing to where I need to be that's how you know that you're going in the right direction so from there you have to build systems that are inclusive I'm just kind of breeze through the slide because I don't have a ton of time but this leads us to this idea of building inclusive organizations that an inclusive organization is like we talk about inclusion and diversity and we often do in the same sentence inclusion is the soil and diversity is the kinds of plants that are inside of it right so it's really difficult to have a great garden if you if it's not good soil right in the same way it's very difficult to be diverse if you're not inclusive and so J. Gooseby Smith wrote a book called Beyond Inclusion and she puts forth this idea of a bunting inclusion and she has these nine things so people need in order to feel included people need to be connected to something bigger they need to mutually agree that they're going to include each other so you have to include yourself in the process of being included you have to communicate what's happening with yourself with the organization you have to mentor other people and develop their potential you have to care about each other you have to care about what happens you have to care about things when they're difficult and when people are suffering you have to be fair work life balance is a good example here can your boss take twice as much vacation as you if so that's weird right visibility you have to give people a chance to be highly visible and to have high stakes and to take real risk if you're a manager and the people who work for you never have a chance to make a decision that you think might be wrong then you're probably failing at giving them enough visibility to stand up and really own their work and then finally you have to give people a chance to talk about what they have done and be the face of the organization and be the face of its values and those are the things that make people feel included and you can do that in software too diversity if inclusion is the soil diversity is the plant you need both and often we're good at one but not the other right so often we're good at being inclusive and we're bad at being diverse and there's a bunch of reasons why the simplest and most charitable answer is simply that we tend to have social networks that look like us or that come from where we come from right there's more complicated and probably more true answers to that that are more systemic and the truth is as people we have a responsibility to understand that we have to make an active effort to be more diverse and to bring people and their points of view because if we're going to build software that's great the next evolution of software is software that works for us as people if our definition of people is so narrow that it doesn't include all kinds of people with all kinds of backgrounds from all kinds of places with all kinds of skin colors and sexual orientation and every possible thing in the universe that we will build bad software for someone we have to be team oriented as creatures we are little herd animals right we're all packed into this room we want to hang out we want to go to a conference we want to go party later right and when we build systems and technology that build teams we help bring each other together often we build technology that does not do that right we try to we talk about removing people from the loop we talk about we talk about being able to you know have one person do the job of 50 those sorts of things what we really need our systems that support and software that supports the orientation of teams human beings need context in order to survive in order to thrive so it's that context that lets us learn about each other in a way that's deeper than simply sort of knowing each other's names this is my family that's my daughter Elizabeth that's my wife Katie and I'm going to give you an example of building context driven software we my daughter's six and we went to an amusement park for the first time in her life and that was amazing and we went to six flags and what I didn't know about the six spots I live in San Francisco and if you don't know much about the Bay Area it's not very hot like it stays sort of in a band between like 62 and 75 like all year right and so we go to six flags and it's going to be awesome and half the park are water rides and we were completely unprepared for water rides are no bathing suits or towels or change of clothes or anything right but my daughter is six and she's like water rides that's amazing we are going to get so wet right and I'm like yes we will and so we go on this giant water ride it's got the big log ride it does a thing we go up the top and then we come down and we hit the bottom and I get f**king soaked like we're not like a little bit wet like my underwear is wet right and I'm like who designed this f**king ride right but my daughter's like that was amazing we're so wet and I'm like yeah that's 64 and so we get off this like awful log plume of hate and then there's this bridge that goes over the part where the log splashes down it's like the second chance to soak your stupid ass right and if anybody has a little kid the thing little kids will do is run away from you like that's just sort of their jam especially the amusement parks man they'll just book and so she starts booking it across this bridge with no regard whatsoever for the log flume that's like coming to destroy her and I try to like rescue my daughter like an idiot right and so I like turn around and the one part of me that's dry is my back you know because I was sitting in a chair man and that log flume and so she is like fine and I'm soaking wet my entire body and so we are then standing in like this giant human air conditioner that tried to dry me off and my wife was like this air conditioner thing is not going to work this is shenanigans I'm gonna go buy some clothes and so she goes off and she buys me that stunning wolf shirt and um and my my little kid has this like arbitrary cartoon character because we were in a six flags and they don't have cool characters in DC but Marvel's better so so here's the thing about that story how many of you think you could tell that story in two days in summary no one Matt Stratton's like I could tell that I heard it once before you'll remember you should how many of you think you could do it if you saw this picture again if the picture came up and you were like what was that moment you could do it and the reason is we've had a thing right like you would not remember that slide if it was just a slide in my deck but you'll remember because I told you a story you looked at me and I told you a thing about my life and my family and you understood it that's what being context-driven means and so when you think about the software you develop and the way you run your teams if your scrum process is handing someone a backlog they have to just feed off the end of for nine months it's not very context driven why did what why should they remember why do they know what it is that you actually want to accomplish with people you want to do it with so when you think about running your teams when you think about building your software you have to think about it how you're going to distribute that context to people okay you have to embrace complexity you know people will tell you that we should get simpler that we need simpler software those people are wrong that you actually the arc of history tells us that we get more complex over time not less complex here's a good example of what i mean this is a model t forward who can drive a car everybody can drive a car how many who thinks they could drive a model t yeah okay you're up front so stand up so um show me how you start a model t forward yeah you turn the crank that's a good answer so i want you to remember that he said crank so you're wrong you can sit down um so so in our mythical model t forward what he does is gets up he cranks the four the four does nothing he's like i'm cranking like nothing moves right so here's what you have to do first you have to prime a car where you get out of the car you reach down underneath it there's a little thing you can pull on like a little loop of wire and you pull on that thing and that opens up the choke and then there's a little lever right next to it you can't actually see and you turn that thing one half turn and that floods the carburetor with gas if you go one full turn then it's flooded you won't start okay but you can't see any of this right it's underneath the car okay so then you get back in the car you're going to set the ignition to magneto because you uh haven't started the car recently it's a model t four you don't drive it every day and so if you want to drive it every day you have to set it to battery so you have to know is it magneto or battery so you're going to go for magneto you put the timing stock to up you put the throttle down and the handbrake up now you'd think the handbrake told the car not to move that's not what you're doing you're actually setting it to neutral okay and then you're going to start the car so now you're going to walk out you're going to crank the lever on the front now are you right-handed or left-handed he's right-handed so most likely would you have cranked with your right arm yeah you totally would have me too now you broke your arm so what happened is you got out in front of it there's a crank and you went and then it backfired and it went and your your arm broke it went the wrong way and it broke your arm and that's a huge bummer so you're like oh my god the model t is the worst car and then uh so you so you learn that lesson because it broke your arm the first time it's now you use your left arm but then you have a second problem which the same thing you have to let go of that goddamn crank if it backfires and so normal humans grip things with our thumbs that's like why society exists but you cannot grip the crankshaft with your thumb if you do that then your left arm won't let go either and you break your arm so make sure you never grip with your thumb like a monkey okay so here's the thing that was a simpler car if we locked these doors we would build a model t-fort if there's a pile of parts and some stuff i bet with the knowledge in this room of internal combustion and basics of how a car works we could get out of here with a car we would not die in this room right but uh that is not because it was easier right we could build it it was simple but it was not better it was worse and when things are easy people are free to learn and grow in new directions you can focus on what matters this is my car uh it has a button that button says start you know what's interesting about that they used to tell you you put the key in the ignition why do i ignite my car that's weird you know what it should say start there should be a button and you should push it and that's better but it's undeniably more complex right so somewhere there's a dude and that guy is like cars are too complex it was better when they were simpler and that person's wrong and the same thing happens when people say that to you about your infrastructure you should be absolutely willing to trade complexity for ease right if it makes your life better if it makes things easier if it moves us forward take some complexity man don't just sit don't don't mythologize the arrow where you had to break your arm because you climbed the hill okay now that doesn't mean that we need to build things that aren't maintainable so when things go wrong you have to be able to quickly address what's there otherwise you're in this trap it's complicated i don't understand how it works i can't fix it when it's broke so this is a ford fusion and it's a stock car and so what's cool about stock car racing is that that's basically the car you could buy on the street and the thing about it is that car has a few things you could easily tweak for example traction control and anti-lock braking you can turn them on and turn them off they have a button you push them those are the things that most human beings have to change about the way their car drives there's also a computer where if you're a mechanic you get into the computer you can change everything about the car you can change the engine timing you can do all kinds of magical tweaky things that is a maintainable car and that's what you're striving to build in your complex systems different people different actors in the system need different levels of access and they need different points of view across the software you built but if it's not easy in the end it's not worth it okay when you're building your software you have to be willing to dive deep um you can't only take what is as a hard constraint and this for me in the last year or two i built a thing called habitat and i'd love to talk about it later and i learned a lot about going deep in the building of habitat in the name of making things easier for people an example there was we wound up building our own distributed gossip layer in order to handle service discovery between and a bunch of other events between these supervisors that manage services and i didn't want to build that like i thought that was silly the truth was i couldn't give you the user experience i wanted if i didn't build it i had to be willing to dive deep enough to get there you have to stay grounded in reality so while i'm telling you to go deep that doesn't mean you can just destroy everything you have in the name of going deep right because not everything you have is garbage so a good example is if you were hired to be the city planner for the city of chicago and you came in and your very first day what you said was new york city is the best city and so what we're going to do is build those the city of chicago and we're going to rebuild new york right here you can imagine something from park only it's next to the lake right and think you like imagine you know you have a new you know empire state building who needs the sears tower no one cares about the sears tower right they would throw you out and kick you in just you'd be done they bury you they would feed chicago right so here's the thing um we do this all the time in technology we literally how many times have you sat in a meeting where someone's big plan was burn it to the ground okay don't do that stop okay you need to leverage principles uh that that already exist and that we have learned in our 30 year history we are not new at this although we are young at it relatively right we have a long and pretty distinguished history that we can draw on outside of it philosophy law justice um auditory to programming functional programming service oriented architecture micro services all of these things they're great one thing one mistake we make is we ascribe the value of the principles we have to the technology you have to remember your users all of them and i have i think there's really three there's builders operators and consumers and if you think about those three different classes of users that will help you so i submit that we should take control of the horse we should consciously intentionally build the future that we desire of our technology and of our culture and if we don't then i think we condemn ourselves and others uh to go through that same cycle of pain and difficulty and and distress uh that we have gone through in our careers and i think instead we should build humane software that has compassion for ourselves and for each other i think we should start here at dev ops days and we should start in the companies that you work for and you should start in the people that you can see with your eyes and i think you should refuse to settle when you find yourself in situations where they're where it's not humane where the work you're doing isn't good where the software you're working with isn't right where the people you work with are aren't thinking correctly about how we should build and and work together because you're not stuck you can go anywhere you can do anything and we should be bold about the choices we make you should be willing to to really think hard and to make difficult choices in the name of improving our lives i want you to stand up one more time i don't want you to say it with me i am because you are when you suffer i suffer when you suffer i suffer when you thrive i thrive when you thrive i thrive thank you