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The Equitable Life Assurance Society presents This Is Your F.B.I. This Is Your F.B.I. The official broadcast from the files of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Presented transcribed as a public service by the Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States and the Equitable Society's representative in your community. Friends, if you are covered by Social Security, you'll be vitally interested in how to turn that Social Security, which after all is only partial security, into full security. The Equitable Life Assurance Society will show you how simple and easy it can be. So please listen carefully in about 11 minutes to an important message from the Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States. Tonight, the subject of our F.B.I. file, counterfeiting, its title, The Flying Felon. One of the byproducts of World War II was an increase of juvenile delinquents. Some of those young men and women have been rehabilitated, but too many haven't. In too many cases, your F.B.I. sees the juvenile delinquent of yesterday becoming the hardened criminal today. They are providing recruits for the formation of gangs reminiscent in many respects of the gangs of the 20s and 30s. Real reduction in present-day crime rates will not come until every adult recognizes his responsibilities to youth and his job as a citizen. In these days of uncertainty, the American people must realize one important fact. If we are to be strong internally, every effort must be directed toward the goal of making the younger element of the nation more law-abiding. And that effort must come not only from your F.B.I., but primarily from you. Tonight's file opens at the F.B.I. field office in a large Midwestern city. Special Agent Jim Taylor has just entered the office of Supervisor Leo Sherman. Jim, this is Tommy Weber. Hello, Liam. Tommy's just been assigned to the office. I'm putting him on a case with you. Oh, fine, Leo. Did you see our notice to banks on those counterfeit United Travelers checks? Yeah. Well, we got quick action. Oh. Man named Paul Clark was arrested this afternoon. He tried to cash these at the Central Trust Company. These are real good imitations. Perfect, except for one thing. The ink doesn't smudge. You see this Clark was arrested? Yes, Tommy, but he's just a punk. Here, this teletype just came from Washington with his record. Thanks, sir. It's a nice record for a 23-year-old. Arrested six times before he was 15. Well, we've got two jobs. Find out who the head man is. Find out where the checks are being printed. Okay. Anybody interview young Clark? Not yet. All right, Tommy. My jails are first stop. Clark's in this room. Thanks. Here we are. Just call me when you're through. Right. Hello, Clark. I'm a special agent of the FBI here in my credentials. Well, big shot. Clark, I want to ask you some questions, but before I do, I want you to know that anything you say can be used against you. Drop dead. Look, son, you don't have to prove anything to me. So forget the tough act. It's no act. Okay, you're tough. Let me point out that if you cooperate, I'll include that in my report. Maybe the judge will consider it when you come up for sentencing. I'll never come up for no sentencing. Oh, why not? My friends will spring me. What friends? It's my business. Clark, you're making a big mistake. Nobody can get you out of this. It's up to you now. Come on. Tell me who you're working for. Where the checks are printed. Hey, a call for you, Mr. Taylor. Oh, thanks. You can take it right there. Fine, thank you. Hello. Jim, this is Tommy. I don't remember what Clark had on him when he was arrested. Oh, anything interesting? One airline ticket stub. One book of matches. $310 in cash. One white handkerchief. Ten folders of United Travelers checks. Did you check that airline stub? Yeah, Clark got here at 10.30 this morning from Auburn. Auburn, that's where he was previously arrested. You get anything from him? No. He's scared. He talks big, but he's scared. How about that book of matches? They're from the Hotel America. I called and Clark wasn't registered. No? Hold on, Tommy, will you? Clark, did you visit anybody at the Hotel America? No, I was never there. There were matches from that hotel in your pocket when you were arrested. Pick them up in a saloon on Wilson Street. Are you sure? Positive. But they'd have a couple of drinks and I bought some butts.  Who are you trying to protect? Nobody. Yeah, we'll find out. Hello, Tommy. Yeah, Jim? Meet me at the Hotel America. Have you been waiting long, Jim? No, I've been busy questioning the hotel employees. About Clark? Yeah. No one recognized his picture. Maybe he just visited here. Well, if he did, he must have come right from the airport. He was arrested two hours after he got off a plane. Does the airline bus stop here? No. Well, then he could have taken a cab from the airport. Well, we can check black and white. They have an exclusive out there. He might show up on their trip records. Yeah, let's get over to the cab office. Oh, wait a minute, Tommy. There's one other angle we should explore. What's that? Well, we got to check with the Auburn police, and see if Clark's ever been arrested with a known counterfeiter. I imagine Auburn must keep an album on counterfeiters so we can have that sent on to us, too. What for? To show to the employees of the hotel here. Oh, figuring that Clark came here to see his counterfeiter. That's right. Now, will you follow through on those requests to the Auburn police? Sure. All right, I'll go over to the cab company office. A case involving a nationwide counterfeiting operation also involves nationwide investigation. At FBI headquarters in Washington, travelers' checks found on Paul Clark were examined by the lab. At Auburn police headquarters, the two requests from your FBI were being acted upon. And at the black and white taxi office, Special Agent Taylor was examining the trip records each cab driver hands in at the end of the day. Examining those trip records, looking for a ride one man took from the airport to the Hotel America. Mr. Taylor, here's another batch of records. Thanks. Well, I didn't know there were this many cabs in time. Only two more bundles, yeah. Thanks very much. Back to work. 12th Street University, Old Crone. Pardon me, sir. Yes? Slip here, says driver 39 made a pickup at the airport at 1040. What number? 39. Who would that be? I'll check for you. 6, 7, 8, 39. And Fred Logan, morning shift. He's off till 6 a.m. Aw, where does he live? Near here, but he's not home. How do you know? He called in. Said he was taking his family to the country. Aw, did he tell you where? No. Will you please leave word for Mr. Logan that I'll meet him here at 6 tomorrow morning? Tommy, I looked at the right cab driver. He drove Clark? Yeah, and he took him to the Hotel America. Was he alone? Yeah. Hey, is that from Washington? Mm-hmm. The lab reported on the traveler's checks Clark tried to cash. Aw. There are duplicates of the bad ones that have been passed around the country. Well, then it's pretty definite that he's part of the ring. Yeah. We also heard from the Auburn police. Clark's never been arrested with a known counterfeiter. How about the album? Be here this afternoon. Okay, let's call the hotel and ask them to line up the employees for more interviews. To most people, an album of photographs is a collection of pleasant memories. To a law enforcement officer, an album is a book containing pictures of people arrested for one particular crime. There is a bank robber's album, a confidence man album, and so forth. When Agent Taylor returned to the Hotel America, he had with him the Auburn Police Department's picture collection of 35 men arrested there in the past for counterfeiting. Good evening. Hi. Glad to see you back. Thanks. Won't you sit down, please? Thanks. I'm Rosie, the fourth floor front maid. Remember? Yes, yes, I do. Rosie, would you look at the pictures in this book for me? But I told you the other day. I don't know that guy. No, these are pictures of different people. Oh, okay. Well now, please examine each one carefully and tell me if you recognize anyone who's been a guest here. Will you look at this bum's kisser? Half these guys couldn't stay here. They don't let you register downstairs by drawing an X. Hey, here's Mr. Franklin. No, his name is Fisher, Al Fisher. Five will get you ten, it's Franklin. I never forget a sawbuck tipper. Franklin? Yeah, 436. That's his room? Yeah, but he's gone. Oh, when did he leave? Yesterday. But don't throw him in the jug, will you? There ain't many ten-dollar tippers left. Sorry to kept you waiting, Tommy. What's up? I thought we'd interview Paul Clark again. He knows we found out about Al Fisher. How? I called the jailor, had him pass the word along. Might soften Clark up. Did you contact the airlines on Fisher? Yeah, he took a plane back to Auburn yesterday. Leo notified the Auburn police. We can get Clark to open up, we might crack this. Go ahead, Tommy. Thanks. Hello, Mr. Kimmel. Mr. Taylor, I was just calling you. Oh, can we see Clark again? That's what I was calling you about. Are you giving it trouble? He's hung himself. In just a few moments, we'll get back to tonight's case from the official files of the FBI. But right now, let's consider the question of family security. I want you to meet Mr. and Mrs. Stephen Dowling, a couple with a problem that nearly all fathers and mothers have to face up to eventually. Good evening. Good evening. Mr. Dowling, I understand you are interested in finding out how to build your social security into full security. That's right, Mr. Keating. Well, now let's see. Your social security would amount to about $112. That's correct. And that's the trouble. $112 just isn't enough to take care of Mrs. Dowling and our children. Well, how much do you think you'd need? Frankly, we don't know. That's why we got so interested in the equitable fact finding chart for fathers and mothers. We heard you talking about it on the radio. All right. Let's take a look at the chart. Here it is. The fact finding chart has been designed by the Equitable Society to help you figure out exactly what income your wife and child would need if you should die suddenly. Just look at these easy to understand pictures. They guide you every step of the way. Every major item of living expense is included. The answer you get is trustworthy and accurate. Five minutes with the chart and you know exactly how much money would be needed until your youngest child finishes high school. Even I can understand that. Steve, we really need one of those charts. You bet we do. How much do they cost, Mr. Keating? Not a cent. They're free. Your equitable representative will be glad to give you a copy. And after you've filled it in, and when you know what extra income you'll need, he'll be glad to show you how to turn your social security into full security. That's fine, but does full security cost a lot of money? Well, you've already got a head start with your social security benefits. You may have some other insurances, too, so that only a small additional amount of insurance may be all you need to give you that full security. That's certainly worth looking into. Thanks a lot, Mr. Keating. Thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Dowling. Friends, why not get in touch with your Equitable Society representative soon? Ask him for your free copy of Equitable's fact-finding chart for fathers and mothers. That's E-Q-I-T-A-B-L-E. The Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States. And now back to the FBI file, The Flying Felon. If you are a parent, it might be well at this point in tonight's case to pause for a moment and think about the young man who has committed suicide. Could that have been your son or daughter?  The fact is that there are more than a million and a half parents in the United States who bewail the news that a child of theirs has gone wrong in a manner so vicious as to demand a penalty ranging from imprisonment in a reformatory to death in an electric chair. From the majority of those parents you hear nothing but excuses. The child was willful or got in bad company or was headstrong or just seemed to stray from the family group. The fault in the eyes of those parents always lies with the child or with outside influences. The truth is that one of the greatest current contributors to the growing army of criminals is the negligent parent and that in too many cases crime like charity is beginning at home. Tonight's file continues the following morning at the FBI field office. Special agents Taylor and Weber have just reported to Supervisor Leo Sherman. Leo, I guess Clark's death means starting all over again. Yes, we've got something to work with. Washington's tennis fissures complete record. He's known to have headed a counterfeit ring in the past. They feel that he's in charge of this one. But we're still lacking proof. Where do we start? In Auburn. No counterfeit checks have ever been passed there so that could be headquarters. Have we anything to work on there? Yes, the lab sent a breakdown on the paper the checks are printed on. It's called Stonewood Bond. That paper's available only to print shops. Have you contacted the company that makes the paper? They're sending a list of their customers in and around Auburn. Sherman. This is Kimball at the county jail. Yes, Kimball. I just got a wire from a funeral parlor in Auburn claiming Paul Clark's body. Well, who's paying for it? He didn't say. When are you shipping the body? Tonight. Okay, thanks a lot. Right. Bye. That was Kimball at the county jail. A funeral parlor in Auburn asked for Paul Clark's body. His record shows he hasn't any family or relatives. Yeah, that's why I was curious to know who was paying for it. You'd better get up to Auburn and interview that undertaker. I don't see anyone around, tell me to you. No, we can't shout for anyone. Let's go back there and see if we can find him. Can I help you gentlemen? Yes, are you employed here? I'm the proprietor. We're special agents of the FBI here in my credentials. I see. Can I be of service? Yes, we'd like some information about Paul Clark. I believe you arranged to have his body sent here? Yes, I did. At whose request? Well, I'm afraid I can't answer that. And why not? The entire transaction was conducted by messenger. Well, who paid you? The messenger brought me a check. Do you know where this messenger came from? No, sir, I don't. And do you still have the check? Yes, I believe I have it in my wallet. Let me see. Yes, here it is. Thank you. It's from an outfit called the Ajax Corporation. What's the signature? A man named Campbell. I haven't the slightest idea who that might be. Thank you for your information, sir. You're very welcome. If I can be of any further service, let me know. Thanks again, we will. Come on, tell me. Jim, I think you ought to contact the bank. I'll make the rounds of the print shops and see if any of them carry that stonewood bond. Okay, let's meet at police headquarters. A lead can take a special agent directly to the next vital piece of information or through an endless labyrinth. At the bank, no information was available on the Ajax Corporation. The deposits were made by mail. No one knew Mr. Campbell. The Corporation address turned out to be a vacant lot. Who was Mr. Campbell? Maybe the papers of incorporation would tell. At City Hall, more records were combed. The Ajax Corporation turned out to be a dummy company owned by the Norton Corporation. The Norton Corporation was owned by another firm. Another firm whose president was Al Fisher. Just a minute. Hello, Mr. Fisher. Do I know you? No, I'm a special agent of the FBI. Here are my credentials. Oh, come in, come in. Thank you. What's on your mind? A man named Paul Clark. Well, I don't know him. You're paying for his funeral. I'm afraid I don't understand. A check from the Ajax Corporation was sent to a local funeral parlor to cover the expense of Paul Clark's funeral. And just how does that concern me? Well, sir, I traced the Ajax Corporation. I found out that it was owned by the Norton Corporation and the Norton Corporation is owned by the Western Corporation. According to City Hall records, you're the president of Western. Now, do you remember Paul Clark? I guess I do. May I ask you why you paid for his funeral? Sure, I'll tell you the whole story. That'll be fine. Paul's my nephew. The reason I held out on him before was, well, I wasn't exactly proud of him. Because of his police record? Frankly, yes. What about yours, Mr. Fisher? Mine's behind me, Mr. Taylor. I leveled off three years ago. I tried to get the kid to do it, too, but he thought he was a lot smarter than me. Well, you see how he ended. Are you familiar with the charge against him on his last arrest? No, no, I'm not. He was trying to pass counterfeit travelers checks. That wasn't smart. No, it wasn't. Did you know anything about his counterfeiting activities? Not a thing, Mr. Taylor. Remember I told you, I've been playing it straight. Yes. Is there any objection to my burying the boy? No. Well, that's why you came here, isn't it? Yes, that's right. Anything else you want to know? Not right now, Mr. Fisher. Come in. Hey, I've been looking all over headquarters for you, Jim. Oh, the captain just assigned us his room, Tommy. Well, I came up with a suspect print shop. Oh, where? Broadway and 39th Street. They carry this stonewood bond? I don't know. Well, then what makes them suspect? Well, before I visited any of the shops, I went to a hotel where Clark used to live, then. I checked over their old telephone records and found three of Clark's calls were made to a printer named Nelson. Oh, and this is his shop, huh? Yeah. How'd you make out with the check? Well, after a lot of digging, the Ajax Corporation finally led the Al Fisher. I went over and interviewed him. What's the story? He claims he paid for the funeral because Clark was his nephew. Oh, kind. He also told me he's a very legitimate man these days. Oh, I'm sure. Oh, did you contact this print shop? Yeah, they were closed. It won't be open until 3 o'clock. Uh-huh. Leo called. He received what appears to be legitimate information that Fisher is about to start moving another batch of checks that will be passed upstate. We better set up a surveillance on Fisher. The police already have. And Leo's coming down, so one of us better stay here. Well, I'm waiting for a report from the police files here on Nelson, so maybe I'd better stay. Okay. I'll go out to the print shop. Afternoon. Can I help you? Yes, I'd like to order some printing. We don't handle a personal station. No, no, this is business. Oh? I'm with an Eastern outfit. We're opening a branch out here. We'll need letterheads, envelopes, auto blanks, cash receipts, checks, everything. I'll have to tell you one thing first. I'll be tied up the next day or two on a big order. So if you're in a rush, I... No, no, no, we're not. But I'll need some samples of your work. What for? Get an okay from the bosses back east. Oh, sure, sure. Got a few here under the counter. Fine. How many do you need? Well, all you can spare. There you are. Thanks. I'll give you the order in writing just as soon as I get the green light. The samples obtained at the print shop were sent to Washington to the FBI crime laboratory. While they were being examined, Supervisor Leo Sherman arrived in Auburn and set up headquarters from which to direct operations. Well, this is Fisher's apartment house. Parking on the hill, Tommy, you can watch both doorways. We'll call your car fullback. Fisher will be the center. Jim, your car will be tackled. Okay. I'm quarterback. This room is the grid iron. Well, how about the print shop? Call it the end zone. Now, if Fisher comes to town, he has to use either the ferry or the bridge. He's been a bridge man so far. Well, we can assume he'll keep using it. Now, you follow him all the way, Tommy. All right. Now, this side of the bridge, there are five exits. Well, it'll be tough for the tourists to cover all of them. Yeah. How about requesting more help from the police? They're short-handed for their own work. Let's try to handle this ourselves. No, wait. There's a different lane on the bridge for each exit. Okay. The minute Fisher moves into one of them, Tommy, you call in and we'll cover it. Check. Any questions? No, none here. Okay, then we're set. Fullback to grid iron. Come in fullback. The center's begun to move. Where are you? 50 yards behind. Paces 40 miles an hour. How's the traffic? Light. We're five miles this side of the bridge. Pace is now 45 miles an hour. Stay with him. All clear at this end. The center's a couple hundred yards in front of me. How far from the bridge? About a mile. Wait a minute. The railroad gates are coming down across the road. The center's not stopping. I think he'll make it. Can you? I don't think so. Well, there's a train, but he got through. He's gone. Tackle to fullback. This is fullback. I'm approaching the bridge. Any sign of the center? No, and he must have reached here by now. We've lost him. I've got an idea. You keep coming across the bridge. Derek? Most of it. I told you I wanted everything at four o'clock. Well, I've only got one set of plates. How many packages can I take now? Three. Over there by the wall. Now my car's in the alley out back. Help me move them. Okay. Keep the others till I get back. You've got room. Sure. Car's right by the door. How long will you be gone? Uh, it depends. Now wait a minute. I got a free hand. Can I help you, Fisher? Huh? Your bundle of checks seems to be weighing you down. Mine? Well, they're his. He asked me to help you. Now wait a minute. You ordered these things. Never mind. You're both under arrest. Al Fisher was convicted in federal court for violating the interstate transportation of stolen property statute and sentenced to federal prison. Eric Nelson, the printer, was convicted of conspiracy and also sentenced to federal prison. In searching the print shop after arresting Al Fisher and the larcenous printer, supervisor Sherman and agents Taylor and Weber located the plates which had been used in making the counterfeit travelers' checks. In addition, the package Al Fisher was carrying at the time of his arrest contained more than $100,000 worth of the fake checks. And so a counterfeiting ring was broken up by your FBI. A further contribution to your protection by men who have made that protection their career. The men of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Now just two things to remember about the Equitable's fact-finding chart for fathers and mothers. First, it shows you exactly what monthly income your family would require if the breadwinner should die unexpectedly. Second, this pictorial chart doesn't cost you one cent. Ask your Equitable Society representative for a free copy or send a postcard care of this station to the Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States. Next week we will dramatize another case from the files of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Its subject, bank theft, its title, The Unhappy Embezzler. The incidents used in tonight's Equitable Life Assurance Society's broadcast are adapted from the files of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. However, all names used are fictitious and any similarity thereof to the names of places or persons living or dead is accidental. Tonight the music was composed and conducted by Frederick Steiner. The author was Jerry D. Lewis. Your narrator was William Woodson and special agent Taylor was played by Stacey Harris. Others in the cast were Fred Clark, Sam Edwards, Joe Forte, Billy Hallop, Bill Johnstone, Blossom McDonald and Ted Osborn. This is your FBI is a Jerry Divine production. This is Larry Keating speaking for the Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States and the Equitable Society's representative in your community. And inviting you to tune in again next week at this same time when the Equitable Life Assurance Society will bring you another thrilling transcribed story from the files of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Unhappy Embezzler on This Is Your FBI. Stay tuned for the adventures of Ozzie and Harriet. There's fun for the whole family when Ozzie and Harriet come your way next. This program came to you from Hollywood.


The President of the United States. Thank you all. Thank you very much. Please. Well, as you know, we have our share of meetings and visitors in this room, but believe me, there's no group that I'd rather see coming my way than all of you. No subject more dear to my heart than the one to which you so generously dedicated your time and talent during the past few years. I hope you'll let me reminisce here for a moment. I remember back during the campaign of 1980 I used to bring up the subject of waste, fraud, and abuse in the national government, and even mentioned the idea of a commission, such as yours. Out there in the campaign trail, it was an issue that really hit home, but somehow back here in Washington it didn't play as well. I, to the permanent establishment, was a waste fraud and fraud a little bit like the issue of higher taxes. It was okay for politicians to talk about it now and then, but it was never really considered proper to go out and talk about it as if you meant it. And come to think of it, we did do something about higher taxes also. And then just when the Washington establishment was getting over the shock from that one, we came up with this little number called the Grace Commission, back in intensive care. The impact that you've had in this city is testimony to your own dedication into that of your leadership. Now right here somebody suggested that I mention that when I asked Peter Grace to take on the responsibility of running this commission I had no idea the kind of energetic but healthy troublemaking I was contracting for. I'm sure they must have been kidding. I mean anybody who knows Peter Grace for more than five minutes knows that he is not a man who let me see how I can phrase this. He's not a man who dislikes taking things to their logical conclusion. And that's exactly what Peter and all of you have done. With dedication and selflessness you've succeeded where others failed. You've provided clear, concise and practical recommendations to enormously complicated problems. And instead of stopping there you went out to build a ground swell of support for the Grace Commission recommendations throughout this country. Recently I know you've participated in the House Budget Committee hearings held at various points around the country. You must have been quite a disappointment to some of them. In those commissions they didn't go out there to hear the kind of things you were saying. And now Peter Grace and Jack Anderson that isn't an unusual but high octane team. You've created a group called Citizens Against Waste. It's a group that will be a focus for citizens action. A truly bipartisan organization whose only loyalty is to the one special interest group that we should all support because we all belong to it. The 77 million United States taxpayers who with their work patriotism and may I say immense patience finance the federal government. I think this kind of grassroots educational program will like the Grace Commission itself focus on the abuse of taxpayer dollars and hold elected and appointed officials accountable. In doing this Citizens Against Waste will not just help reduce our national deficit without increasing taxes but spark a much needed increase in citizen involvement in the workings of government and a long overdue renewal of confidence in our democratic system. But in addition to congratulating and thanking you today for this and other efforts I also want to give you a progress report on where we stand with the Grace Commission recommendations. The statistics are impressive already 1148 of your recommendations are being implemented or have been proposed for implementation and the dollar savings are impressive 112 billion dollars over three years in prior budgets and 56 billion dollars proposed in the budget that I have just sent to the Hill and I'm proud to say that we discuss these fine results in our first ever management report to the Congress that we sent to the Hill last week we've come a long way together this far that's a record to be proud of but something else needs to be said here some people have the odd idea that it's fine while you're a political candidate or during the first year or so in office to talk about waste and fraud you may remember in my first speech to the Congress I called waste and fraud an unrelenting national scandal but they warn that after a certain period of time the political danger tends to grow after all if the headlines about government boondog it's like $400 hammers or millions in benefits to the ineligible recipients start appearing on your watch the public might just decide to start blaming you well look let's be realistic in the 15 years before my administration came to Washington federal expenditures increased 400% now thanks to you and others like you we've worked hard on this problem for four years we've made progress in reducing the growth in spending but we know no problem of this size could ever have been solved in one year or one term of office no matter what some of the political pros might say I think the public knows this and I think they know we're trying and succeeding and I think they're smart enough to understand that all those stories about waste and fraud are a direct result of a fight that we're proud to say we started in the first place so let's forget political angles let's just trust the uncommon wisdom of the common people I'm not worried about political angles anymore I haven't got a political future anymore but keep up your good work bring on the headlines about waste and fraud the grace commission has led the way and now it's everybody's fight beyond this I however the impact of your work is incalculable even if nothing else gets done and I can assure you a lot more is going to get done you have permanently changed the mood of the country from frustration and despair over a spendthrift irresponsible bureaucracy the public now knows some hope and optimism that government can at last be made lean, cost effective and responsive to the people that's why they're behind the grace commission's work and that's why they're behind our plan for deficit reduction another project I know you'll be out there helping us fight for I speak for myself when I say I owe you all a personal debt of thanks but I also speak for the nation and for many future generations of Americans when I say that in making government more responsive to the wishes of the people you have reached back to make contact with the very principle of government that began this nation the belief that government is here to serve, serve the people and not the other way around in doing this you're helping to restore faith in the democratic process and make our cherished way of life more secure and for that I thank you and salute you and do all your fellow Americans God bless you all and thank you for what you've done and the tools that you have given us that are going to rewrite an awful lot of economic textbooks in the next few years some have been rewritten already thank you very much


I was like I was like Trey and I had I was like my mother sent me here from South Carolina clear across the other coasts of the US to find you and I've been waiting to me for like three months and He was stunned, you know, this is a kid. It's been living on the streets for for five years He made eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in tents outside of town and he has a really rough life and He's in kind of a dark place emotionally and psychologically But I mean he just burst into smiles, you know And like I we invited him down to sit and have a cup of tea and I shot a little video for his mom You know, I was like if I was your mom, what would you say to me and we shot a video It was really cool. So I mean That's just one example of like how in the world does I even happen like we wouldn't even think there's something like that was possible, but amazingly enough It is Okay, I'm gonna talk about this guy real quick because it's just a short simple story This picture is kind of hard to see in this picture, but if you want to pass it around It's hard to see now because of the way it's cropped But that's Tony and I met Tony recently actually in Baltimore and I was just walking around like by the Inner Harbor and Tony was going behind his wheelchair and I I was like just walking and I just kind of did one of these like waves down by my waist like Waved at him and I he was talking to himself like a lot of people on the street talk to themselves because they've been alone for a long time So he was talking to himself and he He I hear him go whoa Nobody's waved at me in years And I just stopped because I was like Really like no one's even waved at this guy So I went back and like walks back to where he was and I asked him I said really Tony like I asked his name He said his name is Tony and I said really no one has waved at you in years and he said yeah He had one leg and he was he had it amputated because he Had an infection and his mom died and he's been on drugs for a long time And he goes to a methadone clinic and his life is just really it's been he's been on the streets for more than 20 years so he's been on the streets for a long time and He just said that he's so used to people ignoring him He hasn't had anybody Like touch him or or talk to him and longer than he can remember and I asked him if there was anything I could do to help him out And he said like could you just hold my hand he said nobody's touched me and so long could you just hold my hand and I'm not gonna lie.  It's about the relationship that starts when you open up the conversation it's about like where that sock can lead so um just kind of maybe take that with you and and Next time you see people that are either out there like on the street Maybe they're begging or maybe they're just kind of sitting there I just kind of think twice about what their life is like and what each one of us can do like on a one-person level to Make their life better like it's amazing. It's just like a smile or a conversation or just treating someone like a human being Can drastically alter their day and then like who knows where that will lead to so Just anybody else have any questions? Right okay, so she for those of you who couldn't hear she was saying that like the people with the least give the most that she was Going around neighborhoods and like it seemed like the more affluent neighborhoods They wouldn't give her anything and then like the people who don't seem to have a whole lot will like give you nearly everything that they have and like I've been Shouting that anthem since like the first week I think it was like a huge a very difficult lesson for me to learn But because we don't want to face that reality that that people who have next to nothing will like take the shirt off They're back to give it to you In relation to what you're talking about with it going like in the neighborhoods just like a quick story about that When I first started going door-to-door For came good. I really had no idea Like what to expect or where to go, right? I still really kind of swing it I just like pull over when I feel like I'm supposed to pull over and I park and I just start walking well The maybe I think it was in Georgia like the second week of doing it I Stopped in a neighborhood and I started walking around and I really like I realized to be like this was a much lower-income neighborhood and I Kind of kicking myself because I'm like man.  Why did I come here and There was one more house next to my truck. So I thought Okay, I'll go to the last house. So I went I've been knocked and for whatever reason like this lady Came to the door and she was like, oh, yeah I have exactly what you need and she went back into her house and she came out with like a hamper full of Candies I have no idea what she just said it on the porch and then she went back inside and shut the door She didn't say anything else and I just looked at this hamper full of food and I was like How weird the last house like in this so I took all of that food And I like went back to all other eight houses on the block and I just like put food on There from porch because I was like that's why this stuff happens You know all of these people wanted to help me so bad and then they and they couldn't and this one woman's kindness Like she fed her whole block like I Don't know if she'll ever like know that she did that but it's really cool And um, but like, you know in comparison a few weeks later I was in like I accidentally kind of I just pulled over and parked and I was in a Country club and they didn't realize it and I was like going knocking on like half a million dollar houses And I think I collected like 10 things, you know in like 20 houses So it does really remain true about like the people with the least really do give the most and I see that time and time and time again And I keep saying we don't need street outreach. We need country club outreach the people on the street They get they're the most generous Compassionate people they know God they see God and what they do they show love they they share they Understand like they they get it in a way like when you have nothing You learn really quick what life is really about it's not about stuff. It's not about money It's not about collagen It's about love and it's about about sharing and being kind and being compassionate And like the people on the street know that it's it's the people with all the stuff that forget It's those people that we need to be talking to um, so that's kind of where my focus is at now Are we wrapping up? Okay, cool. Thank you guys so much again for coming on


Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the 2021 ANU Order of Australia lecture. Now I'd like to start by acknowledging and celebrating the first Australians on whose traditional lands and airways we're meeting this evening pay my respect to elders past and present. I'm joining you today from the lands of the Nunnawal Nambri people the traditional custodians for this part of Australia for nearly 25 millennia. We're also joined this evening by retired General Michael Crane, Director of Order Australia Association. It's nice to have you again with us, Mike, albeit virtually and I am looking forward to resuming this annual lecture on campus again in a new normal 2022. ANU has had a long standing affiliation with the Association, and it's one that I hope to continue in the years to come. The Order of Australia lecture was established in 2010 as another way to acknowledge members of our community who have been recognized for the distinguished service to the nation. And we've had some incredible speakers over the years including public policy expert Professor Andrew Ponder, historian Professor Adam McGraw, an equity advocate, the late Honourable Susan Ryan. Even I delivered this lecture back in 2013 and actually unwittingly I declared my vision for the future of ANU and began baby steps, not realized at the time of becoming the Vice Chancellor I have to admit I was not on my mind when I gave the lecture in 2013. Tonight, I'm very proud to say that we will hear from Professor Peter Yu, who will speak about his vision for the First Nations portfolio and reflections on his past experiences in navigating his career, such a young age, noting the difficulties trying to navigate ongoing tensions of living in a colonized environment, growing up, of course in Western Australia. I do thank you very much for making time to share your journey with us tonight, Peter. Peter is a Yaru man from the Kimberly region and Vice President of the ANU First Nations portfolio, the first person we've had in that portfolio. As Australia's National University, we see it as our responsibility to advance the lives of Indigenous Australians and ensure all Australians have equal opportunity. ANU was founded in 1946, 75 years ago in a spirit of post-World War II optimism, and part of our founding mission is to support the development of a national unity and identity to help us understand ourselves and our neighbors and provide our nation with a research capacity amongst the best in the world. As we celebrate that 75th birthday, our unique national mission shines through, especially in Peter's work, which plays a critical role helping build a more inclusive nation, providing leadership on national policy discourse and decisions that impact the First Nations people of Australia. Our affiliation ultimately is about mutual respect and listening, and we need to ensure our First Nations voices are heard and embed their knowledge principles and ways of learning into the teaching that we do, so we gain an understanding of each other. We also want to provide a space for articulating a vision for the future with our community, the first Australians and non-Indigenous Australians alike. The University is very fortunate to have Peter's guidance to ensure ANU is a world leading in teaching and researching areas of interest around First Nations people. And of course it is about understanding that the path to reconciliation is not just a responsibility of First Nations people, indeed it actually lies with non-First Nations people. It underpins all aspects of Australian society, we all have a part to play, and I encourage everyone to stand up and it is really quite fulfilling, I can say, from a personal journey in this space and I encourage everyone else to join it. There's so much to learn. Peter's work goes well beyond ANU, it's 40 years experience in Indigenous development and advocacy at the state, the national and international level. And in June this year Peter was made a member of the Order of Australia in recognition for a significant service to Indigenous culture and political organization. His work has been instrumental in developing many community-based organizations and initiatives which have had an enduring influence on the Kimberley region. It is indeed an honor to have Peter deliver tonight's lecture and I am looking forward to hearing his reflections and vision and a very fitting title speech, looking forward, looking back. So Peter, without further ado, I welcome you to the virtual stage to speak and thank you for coming along tonight. Thank you, Brian, for your generous and warm welcome. But first of all, I'd like to also acknowledge the none of our number of people and to pay my respects to their elders past and present. And all those emerging leaders in our community be they Aboriginal or non-Aboriginal who have the responsibility to guide us into the future. I do acknowledge our Chancellor, the Honourable Julie Bishop. I also acknowledge you, Brian, as Vice-Chancellor. Can I also acknowledge Barry Martin, who is the National Chair of the Order of Australia Association, and Michael Crane, the Chair of the ACT Order of Australia Association. I also acknowledge fellow ANU award recipients and all other members of the Australia Order of Australia Association. I must be honest and say that I had mixed feelings about accepting Brian's invitation to deliver this lecture, this presentation, as I did when I was first notified by the awards office about the offer of the award. Many mixed thoughts instantly flooded my brain as to what I would say. To be honest with you, I did have some misgivings as to the appropriateness of accepting the award. The way it is to cast aspersions on Australia's honours, it's a well respected and regarded means to recognise people's efforts and achievements in their careers and fields of endeavours. Although, as we all know, the Australian Order system has not been without controversy in recent years. The course of question of my own position in weighing up the merits of accepting the award comes from a very personal life and work experience.  I want to talk about what the issues are and discuss how we might look at more creative ways of addressing the ongoing matters that we still remain unresolved in this country. But as an Indigenous man navigating the challenges here in this country, in this very slow and incremental process of unraveling the legacies of colonisation and dealing with the contradictions that this process continually throws up on a daily basis to First Nations communities in this country. A comment by a colleague of mine that this award is awarded from the colonisers and invaders, resonated with me somewhat. I am by nature a hopeful person and I try to push away the corrosive feeling of cynicism that can easily lead to one, into parlousness and passivity. I continue to advocate and work to heal the wounds of colonisation and to make Australia an inclusive nation. I chose the title of my delivery from a Slim Dusty song, Looking Forward, Looking Back. Slim Dusty in my view made a significant contribution to reconciliation in this country before it was a popular thing. Through his songwriting and performances that brought Black and White Australia together through their common connections and love of the country, long before we started talking about reconciliation. The Bush life and characters he vote are aptly brought to life in Slim songs for those of us living and coming from the Bush. We always felt that he had written those songs just for us, with all of us in mind. He was and still is an iconic figure and enormously popular in First Nation Australia. There is something in his lyrics that connect all Australians and I think it particularly resonates with those of us who come and who live in the Bush. But I also think if others living all around the country took time to listen to it, would appreciate the nature of the very intimate sentiments that Slim is able to portray. There's absolutely nothing like driving out in the middle of the bush. The company with Slim on the cassette, I'm showing my age now I suppose, cassette or CD or radio singing when the rain tumbles down in July.  In picking the title of the song for my delivery. Slim sings in his opening lines. Looking forward, looking back. I've come a long way down the track. Making sense of what I've seen. I've got a long way to go. The offer for the award came the day of the 30th anniversary of the handing down of the 1991 Royal Commission into Aboriginal deaths and custody report. That day was a point moment of reflection for all First Nations peoples. A reminder of how little progress has been made, despite the recognition of our common law rights and the growing awareness of the truth of our nation's history. The tragic reality is that far more first nation peoples are incarcerated in Australia today than was in 1991. Someone who worked as Commissioner Patrick Dodson's associate on the Royal Commission, it particularly resonates. Having visited every prison. And most of the police lockups throughout Western Australia. While simultaneously running formal hearings and listening to the personal and painful stories of the families whose loved ones were subject to the investigation. Talking to them and their affected families was a point moment of reflection for me personally. And well, knowing full well that the circumstances and subsequent recommendations of the commission. And fail to shift the bar to any significance to bring relief to the terrible injustice of our people. Something that continues unabated today. Before I proceed further, I want to tell you a little bit about myself to bring you into context as to why the consideration of the ward was such a thought-provoking consideration and dilemma. I suspect it is to as to too many other Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island people. I'm third generation Catholic mission descendant, a Yaru person. My grandmother was a member of the Stalin generation. A vulnerable woman taken from her traditional lands in the Fitzroy Valley of the West Kimberley around 1910 and raised at Beagle Bay Mission. Where she met my grandfather who was working there. My father was one of 13 children. And like most of her siblings were raised in the Mission dormantry and largely brought up by the Saint John of God nuns. My father was a Chinese pearl diver, having arrived on Australian shores as an endangered labour in the pearling industry after the Second World War. Under the apartheid laws of the state at that time, my mother and father were not allowed to marry. My siblings was illegal to go have it with the native. Attracting a fine possible imprisonment and then deportation. I grew up not knowing the intricacies of the oppressive oppressive regime that my parents and family experienced. I had a very happy childhood growing up fishing and roaming the beaches of Broome. Most of the time until it was my turn to be sent south to the Catholic Mission and school at the age of 11. I was getting the thought and excitement of hitting off to the big smoke. It was a traumatic and transformative time taking me away from my family and home environment. For those of you who have seen Jimmy Chai's musical play Brand New Day, which was later made into a feature film, was also my experience and the experience of many other children like me. Some would say my parents had agreed to the church's intervention at my young age. An experience shared by countless other Aboriginal kids. But in reality, they had little choice. While I was not startled in the literal sense that the 1997 Bring Them Home report chronicled, my experience should be seen in the context of that shameful period of Australian history. Along with other kids who were flown to Perth and placed at the Palatine Training Centre. A mission run by the Catholic German order for young Aboriginal boys and girls. To say I was intimidated, isolated and traumatised is another statement. It was such a far cry from growing up in a relatively free, independent and joyful lifestyle in Broome. Palatine was a regimented, physical and psychologically oppressive and sexually abusive environment. Something that no child should experience. I raised this to highlight the reality of Australia that I and many other First Nations children grew up in. And unfortunately many still continue to grow up in. An experience that has shaped my view of this nation and which has caused me to think about the value of the award when it was offered. To me growing up in this environment in the height of governments and colluding institutions, assimilationist push was like being put in a prison that was almost impossible to escape. And I know many people would have said and still say that yes, without that experience, you would not have had a good education and be where you are today. And that's what I've been told all of my life. But what I have learned as many like as like many of my peers was to survive. Many of us failed in our scholarly attempts. Being preoccupied how to deal with the racism and abuse from our teachers and fellow students alike. It was a daily struggle to not succumb to the mental and other pressures of feeling isolated and alone. As part of the ongoing assimilation social experience training. We allocated out to white families every Sunday of the month. To unfamiliar people, culture and values. We decided for all the good intentions, it was like a lottery. Some kids had good experiences. Some kids bad. I was one of the fortunate ones to have a positive experience with a very good family. And then to plan to know today for its positive reputation for developing education and sporting prowess with young Aboriginal boys around the country. Planta was established by the Christian Brothers as a boys' orphanage back in 1901. Awards of the state and from the late 1940s for child immigrants from Britain and Malta. We were exposed for its physical and sexual abuse of young boys. A matter that was subject to the Royal Commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse with compelling evidence from victims of the horrendous crimes committed against them. As children growing up in that environment, we knew and felt something was terribly wrong. We also always think of suspicion and innuendo with an ever-present sense of evilness permeating the environment. We all felt this even in our youthful naivety. The early relief was playing football on the Saturday morning on some suburban footy field. An opportunity to forget where we were to attack the ball in opposition with hard physical gusto. To relieve all of the week's tensions and prepare for the following week to do it again. My post-school life was one of great adventure and opportunities. Provided to me largely by senior and other cultural leaders in my own communities back in the Kimberleys. Through my experience of this period, I began to explore and understand the history and experience of Aboriginal Australia. And particularly its emotional and other impact on me, my family and our community. As a great Aboriginal leader, Dr. Loja O'Donoghue said of her own experience and I quote, I am sometimes identified as one of the success stories of the policies of removal of Aboriginal children. But for much of my childhood, I was deeply unhappy. I feel I've been deprived of love and the ability to love in return. Like Lily, my mother, I felt totally powerless. And I think this is where the seeds of my commitment to human rights and social justice were sown. There was absolutely no doubt about the strong sense of familiarity that I and all Indigenous people have to the sentiment through our shared history and experience. And that we continue to find ourselves challenged with daily. The current COVID risk facing First Nation communities is a confronting and continuing illustration of public policy and program failure on multiple fronts. What COVID has done is exposed the ongoing health, the housing and other vulnerabilities in our communities. We've always been in crisis in health, in housing, in education, employment, and dealing substantially in closing the gap to the standards most enjoyed by most Australians. Notwithstanding the necessity to work towards its attainment, I think we all know this will never happen while we continue to be shackled to the dominations of neocolonial practices under the bureaucratic regime repeatedly and systematically operating in a way that reinforces the past. So what should we do? Does COVID also provide an opportunity? What should we look to look to inspire to an approach COVID environment to aspire to? Many commentators in the general public talk about returning to normal. An aspiration in my view now pass just like before the industrial revolution changing our lives from anything but normal with the rapid change in new technology. There's also the realization that beyond COVID we will have to adapt to the new normal. Responding to the continuing threat of the evolution of the virus and emerging variants requiring us to embed in our daily lives all the necessary protective protocols we have had to learn and endure. At another level, this is a discussion point I would welcome when we contemplate an alternative approach on how a new normal would apply to affect the nation where we could design a new set of standards and protocols when considering our relationships with first people. Perhaps we could turn to addressing foundational relationship issues, like constitutional reform measures, addressing the recognition of Australia's first people. How to formulate structure and activate the Makarata Truth only commission and steps to formalize a treaty and settling compensation for past justices. Immediately though, and because of the devastating impact the spread of the COVID will have in our communities with potentially high mortality levels and long term health effects when the pandemic takes a foothold. It should cause us to consider what needs to be done now to manage and mitigate this risk. To do that we need government commitment and partnership to put together a stimulus economic initiative structured around addressing the current crisis. For a national housing and infrastructure investment strategy, committing to this over a sustained period of time to help stimulate the local and regional economies. Generating employment and training for local indigenous communities. Beginning a relationship allowing people, Aboriginal people to own the risks themselves. When I first was invited to join the ANU, I had to think about what this university was about. And what I could do to contribute to its nation building work. After decades of work in advocacy, negotiation and policy formation. I felt like to bring the experience to a university that in my view has a national responsibility to create in shine a light of important national policy issues focusing on building matters that challenge us as a community in a country. The thinking question when addressing the question of common good. I became acquainted. And considered nugget Coombs a friend who devoted much of his latter life to advance the rights of indigenous peoples. He taught me a lot and he taught me about this great university the ANU. To interrogate to explore to research to create a space environment for asking the hard question. And then to build a partnership and pathways to reform and change what's not working for the common good. The ANU strategic plan is identified by its purpose statement that is vision. And it states. To serve society through transform or research education. And our vision will be that the ANU will be among the great universities of the world. And driven by cultural excellence and everything we do. The ANU's 2025 strategic plan is underpinned by the ANU's values of academic freedom and integrity. fairness and justice. Respecting celebrating and learning from First Nations peoples. Safety and well being. Truth seeking transparency and accountability. Inclusion equity and diversity. And respectful collegiality. This is of course a further underpinned by key strategic priorities. In establishing the First Nations portfolio. I needed to consider how within the framework and objectives of the ANU 2025. We could design a complimentary First Nations portfolio plan. We're required to this but this hasn't yet been completed but we have commenced through our initial business case. The genesis of such a plan. This is predicated on addressing both ends of what I see are the important of the spectrum. First to consider at one end. Addressing policy reform measures around unresolved historical legacies and tensions between the First peoples. And the Australian Australian nation state. Like the issues I've mentioned like representation. About truth telling. This isn't an interesting that the news the other day that the. The Norwegians Scandinavian countries are setting up the truth telling commission dealing with their First Nations peoples to some. Compensation and agreement making. And secondly, in partnership with local communities, designing and scoping research and projects to deliver serious capacities for communities to own their own risks. And secondly to facilitate governance and management capability. Through data sovereignty and management capacity and dressing their own aspirations in a post native title. Termination and post land rights era. Activating their sizable asset base and gaining a foothold in the local and regional economies. In between both spectrums is the responsibilities of deconstructing the colonial aspects of education. Curriculum. Student well being an academic achievement and professional development and employment. While ambitious. It's only the beginning. We won't be able to achieve this without the internal ANU and external support and collaboration or partnership with government philanthropy. The private sector and importantly the communities we engage with. At the end of all of this. I decided to accept the word for a couple of reasons. What I wanted to pay respect and acknowledge the senior cultural leaders. Who had given me the opportunity to serve under them. And for them and all of the opportunities. That I have had. I was fortunate to have served my apprenticeship under their guidance. And trusted to advocate their aspirations and expectations. Without them I would not have had the opportunities that I have had. And the war is dedicated to their struggle. I wanted to pay acknowledgement to my family for their patience. For their support. And their perseverance. Because it is an unusual life with many practices sacrifices. Sorry. That you'd have to make up to live and work in the space. Secondly. In football parlance. You can't keep goals if you're not on the level and in the game. In closing. Can I further acknowledge. The chance of the vice-chance on my colleagues on the executive of the senior managing group. I'm excited to have joined the team. Everyone has embraced the notion of the first nation portfolio. And it made me and my team feel welcome. And I look forward to further developing our working relationships. Gallia and thank you very much. Thank you Peter. My name is Michael Crane and I'm the chair of the ACT branch of the order of Australia Association and I'll be chairing the question and answer. The session that Peter's generously agreed to participate in. Can I begin though by adding my own acknowledgement to the original custodians of the land on which we all meet right across Australia in. In this year's particular case Peter. We have members from all around Australia. Of the order of Australia Association. Well over a hundred have joined us for the session tonight so very excited to have you here with us. I guess perhaps I might reserve the chairs right to ask the first question. You're a member of numerous reference groups and committees around the country. The chair of the indigenous reference group to the northern ministerial forum deputy chair of nails more and so on half a dozen. It's difficult to understand how you actually find the time to be at the university with all of those commitments. Would you like to say a little bit about that work and how that all sort of progresses the your objectives. Thanks Michael. It's a very good question and time you want because unfortunately I've had to step down from a couple of those that you mentioned mainly because the demands. And like my obvious first responsibility to the university but notwithstanding that it doesn't mean that I won't have ongoing involvement and participation. I'm extremely passionate about northern Australia. And about the opportunities that are presented. In terms of the abilities I mentioned in my delivery the post native title determination and and land rights here and the detail of that is that Aboriginal people have a direct and indirect interest in the in the physical assets land assets of the nation to the extent of about 51% overall but in the north it's something like about 85 90%. So, when we talk about developing north Australia. It would seem unthinkable that you wouldn't contemplate the nature of the position of equity that Aboriginal people can bring and the value that that brings in terms of the activation of those assets. And for the local and regional economies. I think but but I but I also think we a challenge by the ongoing systemic nature of the way that the co dependency relationship if you like between governments and Aboriginal people and the way that unfortunately the way the Federation operates. It's a very convoluted and very confusing way in being able to design particular programs and delivery of those programs in a more efficient and productive manner that actually delivers the benefit. I think that that's a key challenge. There's I've also just joined the water trust board I'm sure they won't mind me saying that but I think that's a critically important initiative in terms of where water, of course important for the nation. That's a particular kind of importance for Aboriginal people and Aboriginal people have less than 1% interest in water. Right now at the moment from the point of view of licenses or trading or being involved in the industry and the economy so with a long way to go to make up. Thank you. We do have a couple of questions from participants, but I would just encourage those who are listening from around the country to to send questions in and the moderator will send them through to me and then I can pass them on to you, Peter. Let me begin with one that we've got from from Pam in Melbourne, who says that we've been well served by many of our governor generals but she wonders whether as part of your vision. You can see a day when we might move beyond military male government as general to having our own first indigenous woman as the governor general as was recently done in New Zealand. I think the day is coming. I think that you know today, obviously, I think, as I say, I'm a positive half glass full person. I think, you know, we've seen, so Doug Nichols was the first governor of West of South Australia, sorry, many, many years ago is an iconic Australian figure. I think we've also seen the the latest governor in in South Australia I think I apologize I've forgotten his name but obviously was a refugee from from Vietnam. That's that's quite a dramatic change. I think, I think we will do. But largely of course, without wanting to, you know, get involved in the, in the politics of it all. I think there is this perhaps that there is a time coming soon that should happen I think a lot of people that's not in any way casting any dispersions on the particular people who've occupied positions coming from military backgrounds I think they've all been wonderful representatives in that position so it's not a it's not a personal thing but it is more what is right for a maturing modern developing social democracy in terms of how is that diversity represented. And I think that that's what you know that the growing sense of need and purposes in relation to equity and diversity. And I think it's, we speak it very well but I don't think we actually measure really live up to that very much. Okay, thanks perhaps from that quite hopeful and positive sort of outlook to something that's a bit of a curlier question. One from from Richard who asks what specific policy and action can address the chronic lack of hope and opportunity for First Nation peoples and remote rural communities for example. And I hope I've got this right for why not for war in a in Western New South Wales, where there's a male life expectancy of just 43 years. Part of my delivery is also about earning risk. I talked about the codependency relationship between governments. Unless you're actually working in the space you don't appreciate the intensity of the bureaucracy in its domination of the way in which government business operates. I think that example would be, for instance, talking about war and, and, and the other towns out there just kind of finding their way through the whole COVID crisis. Most people wrote to the governments in, in, in early 2020 expressing their concern and seeking to want to work with the government in putting in place a plan to deal with the threat of the spread of the pandemic. That was not responded to unfortunately, the views of the Aboriginal community for people wanting to take up the responsibility to protect their own community. And hence what we had was an outbreak. And what we have is a higher infection rate in those vulnerable communities. So I think what is what is really required is very much structural reforms in terms of that relationship between governments. The system you've got to, I guess, appreciate is you're dealing with Commonwealth, you're dealing with state, and you're dealing with local government. I think it's not untrue to say we're all quite familiar with the level of red tape and bureaucracy that confronts us on a daily basis. But if you're an Aboriginal person coming from a zero, zero kind of a base in regards to having any decent income, having a house, having a job, the dependency relationship is so dramatically different. And that's why I think I also suggested that what we should look at take advantage of the post COVID recovery environment, there should be a very strategic development growth and investment strategy that actually looks at building housing and other infrastructure around the health and environmental matters that enable greater level of governance and management capacity where people can actually do the things themselves. I think that a lot of Aboriginal people have not been able to fail at things, if you like, even though we can constantly get the blame for failing everything. You know, I was saying this afternoon that a friend of mine, I've said it before, so I'm sure this might be on, we'll have heard him say this before, but a very good friend of mine, Gallera Unipig, you said to me, you know, 20 years ago, he said, when the government tells you there's a light at the end of the tunnel, you said, don't believe him. And I said, why is that? They said because it's a bureaucrat with a torch running backwards. That's the experience of many Aboriginal people, I don't mean they're disrespected to any people working in the bureaucracy, but unfortunately that's the reality. Okay, can I just follow up on that and ask whether you think in your experience over 20 years and more, has that improved at all? Has the experience improved at all from an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander perspective, or is it? I'm reflecting, for example, on the national institutions here in Campbell and sometimes it just seems that all that's happening is we have a change of name, maybe a slight change of focus and not much else changes. So there's some irony in my answer, to the extent that yes, there was a period there back in the 90s with the creation of ATSIC where there was a large push to employ Aboriginal people within the bureaucracy. And of course, ATSIC was an unusual kind of beast in that era, given that it had elected members at the regional level and at the national level, and it was able to engage with government on policy. Unfortunately, it couldn't be sustained through some unfortunate acts, but your point is right. From that point onwards, we've seen a decline of senior Aboriginal bureaucrats at the head of these various departments. I certainly attempt to reinvigorate that, but I think that governments have the danger and risk is that there's a risk of appropriating the nature of what it is that Aboriginal people see as being important to them and building it in the bureaucracy and kind of manufacturing and adjusting it to the needs of the government program rather that it loses its strength and its principal position in regards to Aboriginal people having control when it gets under there. And I think at the moment we're in a, my own personal views, I think we're in a fairly terrible position in relation to the kind of federal organisations that are there to work with the Aboriginal community. From a government policy position. The only government policy, obviously the flagship policy is closing the gap. And while obviously there are merits in wanting to work in that area, you have to ask yourself the question, why are we doing this? I mean, this has been like 50 years of a significant public investment and we're still basically at ground zero with a lot of these communities in terms of their health and their housing and their other essential material needs and requirements. So, you know, we have to ask ourselves this question and why do we keep on doing the same things and seeing the same kind of failure levels, why, you know, that's an important issue of accountability for governments in my view. Okay, thank you. Something a little closer to home, an anonymous question, which, which asks, I'm just an ordinary member of the Australian National University. What can I do to respectfully offer support? Well, it's a, it's a good question. And a lot of people ask that question. And not just, I mean, I've always, there's a lot of good people in this country. I think that's given, and they do want to do the right thing, but, and they don't know how to do that. So, certainly we as a portfolio have a responsibility to be able to reach out to those people at the university in a more coherent way. We're only a fledging organization, but we'll do that. The intent of the university is to ensure that we do have that ability to provide options for individuals and others, academic and professional staff and others to work with us. I think basically the first responsibility is to really inquire. I mean, the university is an education institution. The first thing is to inquire is to delve to see it as a portal to understand better because I think, you know, I think that we, as Australians, we remain diminished if we don't make an attempt. We don't do our work to find out what the truth or the reality of the situation is. There are many competing views, but I think the best way is to really get unhappy to reach out for that particular person would like to communicate with me offline at some time I'm happy to talk about what some of the things that might be able to do. But generally speaking, I think, you know, it's important to inquire. That's what, and that's what university is there for. Sure. Thank you. The next one is another anonymous one, which says that the Macorata Commission doesn't get much attention as part of the earlier statement. What does truth telling look like? Is it something we can start on while we wait for constitutional reform and or agreement, making which seems more politically charged. No question, Michael, I think, I think there are things we can start on. I think one of the, one of the, there needs to be a truth telling commission because I mean, you know, we can't move on unless there is a clear line of the sand drawn. You know, what's an all I think we're obliged as a country to do that. We can start to do things. I, and Brian will know I've said on a number of occasions, what we really need in this country is a national oral history project. What we really need is a way of reaching out so that we can get black and white people to tell their stories at the local level. It should be a national program. You know, it can spend $500 million on the war memorial. I think that it can spend, you know, half that amount of money in terms of setting up a national oral history project that would be operated at the local level to bring local people together in telling the stories document those stories. We need to have a national oral history center at the university so that we're able to to house those stories but it's this many different aspects of that. Part of it is is obviously very specifically the question of First Nation people's relationship with the nation state. But we're a country also of immigrants. There's a whole history of migration in this country. And there's an added requirement to hear the stories of the people who migrated a country, even if you want to go right back to the first day of of Philip Blanning in Sydney Harbor to to hear the real stories. So that we shine this beacon of light of who we are and what we are because I don't think we've yet achieved that we struggle with it. We're in the politics, two thirds of the majority of the population live on the east coast, two thirds of the nation is considered rural remote. Most of us don't look novel. A lot of people don't look over their backyard to see what's happening in Australia. Unless they're often on a track on some holiday. So I think we can start ourselves. We can start mission and we shouldn't wait for governments to do it. We're a necessary partner, obviously. But, you know, there can be a significant effort and endeavor made by us in the community and a project like a National History Project, I think would stand us in good stead. In relation to, because it's at the local level, it's at the personal level, I think it would offer great value. Okay. Thanks from Gary Humphries, who's one of our members here in the ACT. He says, Peter, thanks for an excellent and insightful address. Do you feel that the High Court's decisions in Marbeau and WIC have satisfactorily resolved the question of restoring Indigenous people's relationship with their traditional lands? Or should political actions now supplement those decisions? Because we don't have a uniform system in the country other than the Native Title Act, which operates, obviously, as a consequence of the Marbeau decision in 1992. But Western Australia still doesn't have a piece of legislation that puts in play the kind of administration management of those interests. So it's left to the, again, to the courts. Even though I must say that there have been some successful negotiations through consent determination outside of the Indigenous environment. But I think the land is the one part of the issue. And it's a very conglomerate and confused. It takes a lot of money. Native Title bodies that call prescribed body corporates probably only get about $58,000 to $60,000 a year. That's not enough to employ somebody to work to take advantage of the nature of the opportunity that is gained from the recognition of the Native Title rights. But out of that is missing the whole question of water. Water is a central part to the cultural and ritual needs and imperatives that drive Aboriginal and traditional life and customary life. It's just common sense. I mean, we all know we're a drought country, we're a fire country. Water is a critical part for every critical part of the whole makeup for every one of us. But it has a very peculiar and very particular meaning and responsibility in Aboriginal cultural terms. And that's not something that's contained within the Marbeau High Court decision. I think the whole question of representation, the question of compensation, I mean, basically Native Title is really a matter of recognition of rights. It's not a separate tenure as such. The High Court decision in Timber Creek in 2017 provides some level of insight into the evaluation of Native Title rights or interest sorry, tenure as opposed to fee simple. But what it doesn't do and that's going to be a major issue Michael that because that hasn't yet been addressed by governments, but it's a live issue at the moment where governments are going to have to address the question of compensation following the Timber Creek decision in 2017. So Marbeau is just a step. One comment I would like to make which is kind of a good surgery with the question is, is we have lurched from crisis to crisis and milestone for milestone. What I mean by that is, since 1967 to the partial award wages in 68 and 72 since the first Aboriginal. Department in 1976 the Land Rights Act in 1975. If you look at the history. This, this notion of incrementalism in achievement of certain socio cultural and legal milestones is something that cruells us because the fundamental thing is that Aboriginal people are not involved in the planning. And the termination and then in the execution of those achievements. And for many of these achievements, it has taken significant number of years of litigation on behalf of Aboriginal people to attain just recognition. The question is, what is right what is morally right, what is legally right in terms of governments leadership. What is right for this country because it's not just a matter of what's right for First Nations people. It is what is right for the country. How do we demonstrably reconcile the difference to the extent that the well being and health of the nation and well being and the common good for the nation is something that becomes a critical part of our nation building agenda. That is to me the question, and I think this is where, unfortunately, we've had consecutive doesn't matter which kind of political party we've had constant failure, constant failure to deal with this in a mature and responsible manner for the good of the nation. Thank you. The next one is from Phil. There's a number of questions rolling in now and I hope we're going to be able to do justice to them in the time that you're meeting the next one from Phil again here in Canberra. He says in the context of an Australia of 2021 where many of our citizens are of more recent overseas heritage not related to the colonial era, and thus they may not understand some of that background that you talked about. How can we develop a national consensus with that kind of population mix now that's needed to address your aspirations for us as a nation to address the wrongs. Well, unfortunately, like everything in Australia, you know, as much as I might sound critical of government, we need government. And we need the leadership of government. And that's really what I despair at, quite frankly. And I guess the way governments have a role with the people who've just recently come to the country. Well, they might be young and I think obviously there is a grave risk of losing the kind of intellectual knowledge of the history of Australia if we don't deal with this in an organized manner. This is where governments have a responsibility in again for the common good of being able to bring into apply support in partnership with Aboriginal people, the kind of value and benefits of the inclusive, inclusivity of including Aboriginal people in the national landscape, political and legal and social landscape. You know, it just astounds me that we as the oldest living continuous country culture on earth should have to strive to get that acknowledgement from our government to acknowledge what the kind of what the importance of that contribution and the values that we bring to that, not just in a general principle sense but I mean, talk today about climate change that's finished in Glasgow conference. Aboriginal people are now involved in large scale carbon offset programs by using the traditional fire management techniques by looking at things of biodiversity management by looking at questions of adding value to the trading environment in relation to the co benefits that come from getting jobs and training people. The, the, I think there's a, there's a different way we have to actually couch the kind of narrative and the message, things have changed dramatically. But I think with it we have to be much more creative about talking about the values and about the importance of the contribution that First Nations people spring for the benefit of the country you know in some ways. While people recognize the custodianship of traditional owners of their country. In some ways, much of the skills and the knowledge that that average of people bring custodians for the national estate, it's for all Australians, not just in terms of the imperatives that drive the cultural and customary responsibilities but it's also about. We all are awakening to the dangers and threat of climate change and the risk there is. We've been devastated issues with the wildfires and storms and flooding and all that sort of stuff the question is. How can we learn from the knowledge of millennia and longer, the knowledge base that average of people have to contribute to being able to future proof the country. We could use the narrative around very positive uplifting kind of things, rather than and the media is going to be able to come to this as well. Unfortunately, we largely the kind of the nature of the unfortunate relationship we have with the continuing systemic racism that we see in this country is largely reinforced by the way the media operates and I think that they can play a dramatic role in shifting the mindset of ordinary Australians. Okay, several more coming in, but I think we probably just had time for one last one. This is from from Bruce who asks, or he says thank you for the courage you showed in revealing those deeply troubling stories from your youth. It strikes me that the institution where you were placed must be a haunted place, a site of trauma for Indigenous Australians and others across the generations. How can such sites be healed. Have they have there been ceremonies that try to resolve and move beyond the pain that was suffered there. It's a good question I I've never returned there others I know my other peers some of them have returned and visited to try and deal with those guys. I know it's certainly not there is a mission anymore it's been converted into retirement village for for the Catholic Church. And so, or sold off for housing development. I, I, I think it's interesting because after I left the institution in my very early days I tried to speak to my peers about group counseling. I was fairly traumatized by it and I wanted to. Unfortunately, many have died. Many of them are very talented people. Many of them are my relations, my cousins, and my uncles and others who were very successful in, particularly in doing apprenticeships, you know, in as carpenters as mechanics. But when they left the mission and they went back home, they, they just fell apart because they because they, they had been away from their culture from their family they didn't know where they fitted in to their community. So many of them took up various vices that obviously were detrimental to their health. And so that, but unfortunately I didn't get a response from anybody I thought it would be a good start for us ourselves to talk about it to find out each other's experience, but that didn't happen. That's the problem. We also grew up in the era, like a lot of other Australia's where we weren't allowed to talk about those issues, mental health issues were not seen as you weren't a man or you had to, you know, you were weak somehow if you were able to express an emotional point of view on things. And that also affected many Aboriginal people.   You're into it. It's like another country. It's a foreign country. You don't know you can't speak. Initially we were, we couldn't speak the language we weren't allowed to speak our language. We weren't allowed to mix with other Aboriginal people. We weren't allowed to. We were regimented in everywhere we went. So, you know, that's the truth telling, you know, Commissioner McElrider Commission is the process. That will help to heal that the unfortunate thing, you know, is we haven't gone anywhere near resolving the stolen generation issues. And the government's recent announcement to provide some level of payment to stolen generation people in the Northern Territory and the ACT, which equates to only about $70,000 I think per person, but you know, but it hasn't been, we have the apology. Well, symbolically important, what did it offer in real reparation? What did it offer in real sense of improving people's lives? Well, that's a very poignant note on which to end, but then we must, I'm afraid, and I apologize to those whose questions we haven't been able to get to, but our time is up. Peter, can I just thank you from the bottom of my heart for what has been a very worthy addition to the list of ANU lectures. I've been to half a dozen or so now. I missed the first half dozen, including Brian, but I think in terms of being both uplifting but profoundly challenging at the same time, this is certainly the best that I've attended. Thank you very much. Thanks for your personal insights in particular. And as somebody has said, the courage in sharing those with us, it's difficult to understand how challenging that must have been for you. So thank you very much on behalf of the Association for your contribution tonight. And I guess now, where we face to face, there'd be a round of applause and you can probably hear that echoing through the ionosphere around Australia. Let me take the opportunity, though, if I may, also to thank the Vice Chancellor, Brian Schmidt, and the University for the continuing support in taking this lecture forward. I know that Brian shared with us his own experience from 2013 and the impact that it had on him. He's told me that story before and I often tell it to people. So it just goes to underscore the importance of this event. And I think the, the attendance that we've had tonight also demonstrates that as I said earlier, it's a record attendance. So thank you, Peter, for that. But also thank you to the University for your continuing support. Thanks in particular to Jerry Neil, Rebecca and all the rest of the ANU staff who sat behind the scenes and made this all possible.  And I really value the relationship that we have with you in bringing this together every year. Can I also thank, of course, all those who did register from around the country, including our Order of Australia Association members, particularly those who asked questions. I trust you enjoyed it. And we very much look forward to trying to meet together face to face next year for the first time in a couple of years. Brian, perhaps in the back of our minds, we might also note that there's a considerable advantage in broadcasting live around the country so that we can share experiences like this very rich experience tonight with a much wider audience. Thank you everybody and good night.


Namaskar. I recently came across your YouTube channel and your teachings resonate strongly with me. I currently watch as much as videos as I can and I practice being in the present moment every day and try to get rid of, clean my life from any excess objects. I would like to kindly ask for your guidance regarding practice. I'm suffering from an autoimmune chronic disease and I have tried different practices in the past which I'm not sure what to do with all this knowledge like Reiki practice, Ayurvedic medicine, journaling, tapping, meditation. I feel, I strongly feel I need to abandon them but also at the same time I feel that this abandonment comes from a restless ego that is constantly looking for new things. When you have something which is called an autoimmune disease which basically means one doesn't really know what it is in most cases. Not in all cases, but in most cases. Then it is natural that you'll keep on searching until you find something that gives you relief. That's not something unusual. If one wants to look at it in terms of the ego one can always find ego in everything, even in a stone. But the fact of the matter is that you have an illness. How exactly would you describe your illness? What are the symptoms? The symptoms begin from the gut. It's Crohn's disease. It has to do with the gut but it has spread in different instruments of the body like the eyes, like the muscles and the bones. Right now I'm taking classic medicine which is I'm afraid the only thing that has helped me so far with pain and all the symptoms. This is actually something starting out from the gut, right? As far as your question goes is that an act of ego to be searching for solutions or for new means to rid the body of this pain? I don't think that that would be considered some heavy egoistic approach because it is your duty actually to find out what underlies these issues that the physicality of your system is facing. In fact, if you don't do it then basically you're going against the truth of your system. However, sometimes less is more and that is also true. So, you will find a lot more relief in whatever it is and especially if it is such an autoimmune, I don't want to even call them diseases. An autoimmune symptom, let's say, the way to deal with it apart from taking the medicines because if the medicines are giving you relief then you take them even if in the long run they may cause trouble. But in the meanwhile, you can also start to focus on this surrender process because what I'm seeing with people who have these autoimmune, various autoimmune symptoms this practice of surrender seems to be quite miraculous. What I've also observed is that there are people who have physical problems over a long period of time. They'd move into surrender. The moment they have a relief in the problem, the ego starts to grow. So, in a sense, if you can proceed with your surrender practice clearing up the room of objects which are unnecessary, zipping your lips, not necessarily communicating your plans to others unless they've reached fruition, taking enough rest. That is a very crucial thing. These are simple things to keep that ego maybe not at bay, but at least as small as possible. The smaller the ego, the less that body torments you. It is just simply like that. In your case, it will help you for sure. So it's about getting more rest. It's about zipping your lips, not to talk about your plans, about your illness, about whatever you're exploring at that given moment or experimenting with. None of those things to be discussed with A, B, C, D and E. You do it. You figure it out and quietly watch the changes happening. Because if you tell people about this, of course they have the doubts and then the doubts bring with them.  So that is very, very, very crucial to keep the lips zipped. Not just for you, but for everyone on the satsang. You have a plan. You want to do something. You want to achieve something. Achieve it and then inform people about it. Not the other way around. Period. It's a non-negotiable approach to life. First you do, then you inform. So that also applies to your problems that you now have. And they will reduce. They have to because surrender is not something conceptual. It is something in the cells of the body as well. The material surrender kriyas, the bending down. You've seen them in some of the videos in the Kundalini related videos. Go and do that kriya and do it as often in a day as possible. It's surrendering in the physical. It's surrendering in the emotional. It's it's bending down actually bending. And it's surrendering in the conceptual surrendering in the sense of knowing that this body is an instrument that it is not the one deciding what's going to happen with it. It's an instrument of the truth. It is an expression of the truth. So as you surrender deeper and deeper. This thing will get better. Of course, if you have something with the gut, then you know gluten is out of question. Anything with gluten is out of question. All kinds of dairy products out of question sugar and sweet anything sweet very, very minimal. Only when really necessary if at all that is those are the things you know already. I don't have to tell you this, but I'm repeating it because sometimes one doesn't realize that all of this holds together spirituality is not a separate thing and then people become ill in their spiritual quest. It doesn't work that way. It has to go hand in hand. So this is where you are going to move forward in that zipping the lips getting enough rest taking care of matter and doing the surrender Korea to start with it can't hurt you in any case. So it's better to do it than not to do it and as far as looking for you know different means to cure yourself. Yes, of course, you would be interested until you find something that really really sits. So it's all right to do that. But first since you have already come into this at some and you have already watched the videos take it up seriously take it up. I know it sounds almost banal one Korea like that. How is it going to do it does one Korea does change things that have been people that have reported complete cure from all the problems they had as long as they are in that state when they move out of the surrender state back come all the ailments it's not worth it not to do it do it and then if you want to look further why not when one is you know one is not in some spiritual straight jacket because one has found something that speaks to one one has to be free as a seeker and as a human to just go and explore it's just to do guru tourism is not a good idea which means that as a spiritual seeker without a guru who doesn't have a guru you can go and search and do and look and find and why not the adventure in Guru Vada is with the guru and if you don't have a guru of course you should feel free to search for these different possibilities and cobble them together into into something which fits for you you know so not to have this guilty feeling oh I'm searching for too many things and I'm greedy and my ego is too big that is worse than actually doing what you're doing like it's worse to blame yourself and beat yourself because that's a bigger form of ego actually so relax chilly it'll be all right go into this clear this clear is important take the inspirations you found here institute them in your life and let it go forward with a sense that you're going to succeed not with this deep sense of possible failure at all moments because if you're suffering the way you do then obviously you have that feeling you can't be blamed for it but don't give it that's ego when there's fear that's ego when there's anxiety that's ego with this panic that's ego you know when there is quiet and you just tell yourself I will be all right you start to believe in the strength of the body and also in the truth underlying it yes.