YouTube team keep it clean. What's going on? It's St. Graven Hill with another video and in this video We are here to talk about the game that we just finished watching Between two other birds. No, you see this bird on my chest right now, but it's not about the Ravens This is about the Falcons and the Eagles In a game that started off super slow Toward the end of the second half really that fourth quarter things started they started picking up a lot They started picking up a whole lot But anyway, because this is the first game of the season that we doing this for this is the first Actual game that counts. This is the first regular season game that we doing the post game for and this is exciting This is exciting man. Yeah, the first half wasn't so excited But this is exciting because this is a new season and we're back We're back So let me introduce myself Because they're gonna be some people that are new here some people that are have never been here before And of course everybody that usually comes through I appreciate y'all so for the new people me. I mean Graven vids This is my YouTube channel in Graven vids and I'm a Ravens fan But on here we just talked football period so no matter whether you're Eagles fan You are Falcons fan.  You are Cardinals fan. What other birds are there in F? I can't think of them right now, but either way Welcome to the YouTube channel. 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So us Ravens fans We know all about that games getting delayed with the away team and the game gets delayed by a while because of the weather And we end up losing That was the case with the Falcons tonight, but the Falcons fans of Falcons I mean not the fans, but the Falcons They can't use that as an excuse because the game was delayed for both teams It was delayed delayed both for the Eagles and it was delayed for the Falcons. It was delayed for both teams now um This was it was a good one. It was a tight one. It was a defensive one and this it surprised me It surprised me. It surprised me big time because I picked the Falcons to win this game I was so sure and so confident that the Falcons were gonna win this game Why did I picked him to win this game because I'm like man, these dudes got Matt Ryan. They got Julio Jones They got Mohammed Sunoo They got Devonte Freeman Tevin Coleman They even got Calvin really and he had been looking good in the pre-season. I'm like man. I'm like these these falcon I know Eagles defense is nice or whatever, but Falcons offense is just so strong, man Their offense is just so strong. So I'm like, oh, yeah Falcons got this. I didn't even question it I ain't even question it. I was like Falcons got this thing for sure I just knew Falcons had it locked up They were gonna come out of this thing And that that that offense was gonna be too much for the Eagles to handle it was gonna be too much but It it proved to be otherwise it proved to be otherwise now um The first half just started out extremely slow It started off extremely extremely slow. It was ugly.  Um, if we go back I believe it was in the first quarter when the Falcons win the race first off shout out to the Falcons shout out to the um Shout out to well, it's like a good shout out and a bad shout out at the same time Because I was gonna say shout out to the offensive coordinator um for What's it their first drive? I believe it was their first drive where they they came out first drive Went for it on fourth down from the goal line went for it on fourth down So I when I saw that I said, okay, go ahead Come come through the feeling and just Take over take over Take over I love that. I love that that aggressiveness. I loved that but then Something that I had noticed but thank goodness for twitter because twitter if if you don't notice something while you're watching the game twitter will notice it for you On that same drive where they went for it on fourth down. They went for it back to back to back to back Well first second third down and go I mean first and first then go second and go third and go fourth and go They went for it Julio jones is nowhere to be found And when I found that out, I'm like holo Yeah, I applaud you for going for it because I love the Just how you can walk into somebody else's uh stadium and command that respect and try to just wipe the energy out of that place but No, Julio Julio was literally the entire offense for the falcons tonight Matt right.  I've seen from Matt Ryan. If not the worst That wasn't the worst. I wasn't the worst But I think maybe his first playoff game might have been the worst But regular season this this might have been the worst I'm sure falcons fans can name some other stuff that's been worse than this, but this was bad This was bad. This was bad bad The falcons defense they were doing that thing They were doing that thing and they were They were holding them. They were stopping it. They were stopping the eagles over and over and over and over And eagles offense couldn't do anything but then the falcons defense they started losing guys they lost nil they lost um The corner back corner back corner back nah That's been true fine. They lost him for a little bit um And it was it those the penalties The penalties they They I don't believe they called the one um I don't believe they called the uh the helman penalty in this game I don't think they called that but they were calling a lot of other questionable stuff And it was ugly It was ugly.  Let's flip. Let's flip it to the eagles real quick Flip it to the eagles Um the eagles the falcons were putting pressure on the eagles. They're putting pressure on Um for the longest more so in the first half eagles running game couldn't get going Uh for the longest throughout the entire game their passing game really ain't get going. Um zack earth Zack earth's what do they have like two and a half drops? I can't really call the one that um Not ricardo allen. I believe it was 27 on the falcons. He broke it up I forgot what well. I forgot what his name is but Zack earth's had two drops And then he had oh, yeah four drops. Oh, excuse me I thought he just had two and a half because I couldn't really count that third one because uh number 27 on the falcons broke it up But I know he had two drops for sure Would I like to see nada back in the ravens uniform? No, not at all. Um, hey appreciate that qc. Thank you for that donation, man Um, but he he just kept dropping. He did something. He did make some catches now So let's not forget that he did make some catches, but he sure is making some drops Uh, oh go there go there go there. What do you have? You say his name the rookie? Um, nick foes. He did hit him in the back of the end zone Uh or sort of to to the side of the end zone uh on a touchdown or what would have been a touchdown But he just couldn't get both feet in and the defender did a good job of sort of boxing them out Um, so that was a good play by the falcons defender um and Now the the interception The interception that dion jones caught Was that awful zack earth's because I know the falcon safety came in and hit uh, he hit the tight end Was that zack earth's who who that play was on to or was that somebody else? Because I don't I don't remember exactly who that was on Um, hey, what's up joseph appreciate you if you knew here appreciate you. Thank you.  I feel like you got a little accent to it got a little tangy to it go there Go there. Hey appreciate that one.  Oh god earth now. Okay. Y'all just change y'all saying everything now The tea asylum. Okay.  Okay even better god. I still been saying it wrong. I'm I'm sitting up here trying to correct myself And I'm still saying it wrong. That's why I appreciate y'all man. Um, and I appreciate that a lot one. Thank you, man Gotter. Thank you. See this is why I love y'all man. This is why I love y'all because I don't you say I I'll get I'll kill somebody's name. I will murder somebody's name, man uh, so appreciate y'all um Real quick. I I know Football game is four quarters. Well, let me put down one hand because that's eight a football game is four quarters. It's four quarters A football game is four quarters. So uh, one play Can't or it can change the game, but one play doesn't doesn't necessarily control the entire outcome of the game necessarily but It can have such a big impact It can have such a big impact and It was This may have been the worst The worst non overturned challenge that I've ever seen Ever since I've been watching football This may have been the worst non overturned or not a non overturned challenge that I've ever seen In this game It was ugly The julio jones pass that was going to go for like 52 yards. I think that was a catch for sure That was a catch for sure That was a catch Whether you a falcons fan, whether you're an eagles fan If you even if you were saints or panthers or bucks fan, even if you were patriots fan You know That was a catch even if you were Packers fan if you a cowboys fan definitely y'all definitely know that was a catch from the whole dais thing But that was a catch That was a catch. It was clear as day There was no debate in that Yeah, and when I when I saw it live, I'm like, okay, that's a catch But then the reps were like incomplete. So I said, okay, but let me see what these reps are talking about So they showed the replay And yeah, Julio bobble did at first but by the when he got control of it He was still weighing bounds. He was still weighing bounds The ball was right here on his chest and he he was in bounds So I'm like what like how how can y'all possibly rule that not a catch Now back to what I was saying before with how yes, I know that not one game doesn't Change the out. I mean one one play doesn't necessarily change the outcome of the game But it can have a huge impact and that play had a huge impact man that like How can you get that wrong? How how And there were a lot of calls against the falcon. There was one on great and gris grady jared I think it was roughing a pass and I'm like, what? Come on, man Like I don't care for either one of these two teams. But come on, man I know a lot of these penalties are put in place So the rest can have a little more control of the games or whatever. I know that it's a business whatever blah blah blah but what Come on, man The like man like that like it was just ugly. There was one pass interference. I think it was on true fun And I was like, what? Are you are you what are you talking about? It was so ugly.   I I really think This should have been falcons game. I know some eagles fans going to get all upset. Oh engraving What are you talking about? You don't know what you're talking about eagles one blah blah blah blah This should have been this should have been falcons game. Yeah, congratulations on the eagles on getting the win That that that 52 yard catch man That 52 yard catch or I have a many yards. It was supposed to be that was a catch That was a catch Would have put them in field goal range and it would it would have changed a lot that went on in the game but It is what it is, man This is this is part of the NFL, man. And oh, it would have been a 52 yard catch appreciate that, man um But yeah, I see a lot of people talking about. Oh, yeah, falcons. They they look sorry this year They they don't look good this year now. They look this they looked at Y'all relax man. It's one it's one game Along with the eagles too eagles. They look the best in the world either but relax. It's one game It is it is one game No no super bowl no playoffs no season was all determined in one game And that's if you lost the first game or you won the first game So for everybody tripping about either team it's just Hey appreciate that man stereo. Say looking forward to our season. You think all ravens can win the division this year I don't have them win a division right now. I think that still still is but we'll see how that goes, but uh one game doesn't determine the entire season so Yeah, I didn't know I didn't say falcons look good I said I said for everybody saying that the falcons didn't look good or the falcons are not gonna look good this season They look so bad They're gonna look so bad this whole season and for the same people saying it about the eagles It's it's literally one game. It's been one game. That's it. It's just one game It's one game so It's to be determined man, um Ronaldo said penalties on both sides the refs the rookies. They were bad man They were bad. It's always the new fans that overreact after the game opener. Yeah. Yeah, that's true, man That's true because and you know what I can't even know. No, I take that back I can't even just say it's the new fans It's a lot of us because a lot of us have been so anxious to just see some football man We've been so anxious for football, especially the for those guys who are in the playoffs Because their teams actually got to move past 16 games must be nice. We haven't been there in over three years So enjoy.  I mean it happens in preseason and it definitely happens in the regular season Overreactions are gonna happen But y'all guys to remember it ain't over till it's over. It ain't over till it's over It ain't over till it's over So the the season is not one game long The season is not four quarters long The season is 16 games And you obviously hope your team ends up playing in 20 Was it 21? No 20 wild card division Conference superbowl.  I know a lot of y'all don't like steve sarkinson A lot of y'all don't like your offensive coordinator and that I know that I am 1,000 sure of I know a lot of y'all don't like your offensive coordinator I already know that um So but at the same time Don't trip yet, man If this like the the fourth game or something maybe even the third game, but if it's the fourth game You're often still looking like that. Okay tripped in Then you can flip out No, Calvary really didn't do anything um, and for eagles fans I wouldn't overreact even though eagles fans. They know that they know the team didn't look good tonight But at the same time I wouldn't overreact and be like, oh, yeah, we got it. Oh, yeah repeat repeat Our team gun they locking everybody down. We like the falcons down. We locking everybody down Now while their defense is good And they did that thing tonight but Don't overreact to that either because the overreactions can go both ways. They can go both ways Whether you win or whether you lose so either way man either way Mystery man said eagles fans always overreact Who won the eagles won and it's crazy how the game ended too It ended the exact same way that the playoff game ended Uh this past season It ended the exact same way that the playoff the playoff game ended last season Y'all make sure y'all leave a like on the video too There's 230 people up in here right now y'all make sure y'all click the thumbs up button And follow on twitter too the twitter is engraving viz just like the youtube channel The twitter instagram snaps all that good stuff same graven viz um, but Yeah, it's It's a 16 game season man But yeah, both teams Obviously got work to do but both teams you How can I explain this the best?  They're going to be some games where Like like these where super defensive You're not going to keep them any points Then they're going to be other games where it's all this offense this offensive explosion. You're like wow man Wow, let's why can't we do this every week? So You just never know You obviously just hope your team comes out on top with the win So either way man, uh The the foiler live said all this game proved is that you can probably win game one if you started to play in the preseason They did say they didn't say oh matt ryan and julio jones. They haven't played together this preseason Now while that could be true Does that really have any bearing on how this game turned out? Like I don't think so, but either way man is what it is um The year the injuries. Oh somebody was mentioning. I think it was my boy, uh Salonski, I think he was mentioning about the injuries the injuries was his concern in this game Um, and again that it's gonna happen every game It's always gonna be somebody hurt It's football it's football and as as much as they um as much as they try to Make the game safer It's not a safe game. It's not a safe game. It will never be a safe game Um, it's a very physical contact sport. It's very violent. Oh, it was a k my father's a k my apologies Uh, we played a bills week one ravens played a bills week one. Um, it's it's never gonna be a safe game So for anybody that think oh, yeah NFL making the game safer It's never gonna be a safe game ever ever So can we put uh, the Julio is better than Odell arguments to bed now Um No, I mean that's it's close. I still I still say de andre hawkins number one Um, only because of what he's what he does with like 50 000 different guys at quarterback Because the aunt he gets it done with anybody at quarterback. It does not matter who Deandre gets it done And yeah, oh, there was a beast Julio's a beast Um, those guys are great at what they do, but I still put yeah, I put de andre hawkins over ab2 And he's a beast as well What's up? It's go So yeah, all those guys, I mean and everybody can obviously have their reasons for why they put different guys at number one Some people get extra sensitive over the topic me. I don't really care. I don't really care There's always somebody. Oh engraving de andre hawkins isn't number one. This guy's better than him I don't care. Everybody got an opinion. You got yours. I got minds. That's it We can agree to disagree. It's fine. It's okay. It's okay But I go with I go with de andre hawkins for number one Oh Good question. Dylan. He said, but do you put hawkins over bouchard payment? Now I might have to change my number one receiver thing. So thank you for bringing that up, Dylan Um, glock said, that's not see, uh, see glock's glock's get into his feeling because glock's a giants fan So glock's is gonna ride for his boy. Oh, dale. He's gonna ride for his boy. Oh, dale Which is not a problem because he's a giants fan. That's expected. That's fine That's fine. Um, well what my boy glock said he said that's not fair Oh, dale only had one quarterback and elie never gets hurt. So to say he wouldn't ball with a new quarterback We will have to wait till elie retires. We will We will and again. Oh, dale is nice. He's nice. So don't beat me up glock's Odell is nice. I like Odell. I wish he could be a raven But I'm still going with de andre hawkins Please don't don't beat me up. Please don't beat me up but anyway, um Appreciate you Appreciate y'all coming through man Appreciate y'all coming through how'd I feel about the levy on bill? Oh, we did it. We did a video on that earlier today Um, so yeah, we did a video a full like 14 minute video. So you can check that out, man Um, ravens will be good if they stay healthy What coaches are getting fired this way to a man y'all y'all asking some questions some crazy questions It's not even four week. We didn't even get through a four week one We didn't even get through half a week one We didn't even get through a quarter of week one yet y'all talking about what coaches are gonna get fired Whoa, whoa Slow down there Will the eagles do the same trick play when they're running back those the ball to the receiving and why receive those the ball? Oh, the Philly special man. I'm so tired of hearing about that I know even eagles fans got to be tired of hearing about that Philly You know, you know what no they aren't they not because they fresh off a Superbowl They fresh off this they fresh off a Superbowl He said Al Gorello is the best quarterback in the king. You might be right. Um, but they fresh off a Superbowl So, I mean you're the Superbowl champions for a year. Nobody can take that away from you. Um, really forever because you just got a Superbowl You just your Superbowl is fresh It's fresh even if the Philadelphia Eagles don't win the Superbowl this year.  They can say hey We got a Lombardi trophy when the last time your team got one That's it. That's it That's all they got to do. That's all they got to say That's all they got to say They literally don't have anything else to say. They don't need to say anything else Now Michael said the captain really even played. Yeah, I was expecting him to do some stuff this game I was looking forward to seeing him He didn't do anything He didn't do anything He didn't do anything He said bro Ravens have no offensive weapons. They do they do especially alice collins best offensive weapon is alice collins If you don't know who alice collins is you'll know him this year You'll know him this year. He did this thing last year But a lot of people still not familiar with alice collins, which is a good thing I'm glad because I don't want him to get over hyped. I don't want people to get on his bandwagon or anything like that So that's fine, man. That's fine. Uh, what's up lanino? It was good and great We're going to super bowl alice collins is a dog He is man Tyler said those penalties tonight were out of control pretty much every punt. There was a flag pretty much every play There was a flag That game was so those penalties man at one point. There was one point. What's up, ebram? There was one point where I think it was in it more so in the beginning of the game Where it seemed like like the the commercials that they were playing like the game was moving fast And maybe they were trying to speed it up because they did have that delay But they weren't hardly playing any commercials even when they were punt the ball They will go to like a like one commercial break and come right back Even when there would be it would it be a turnover or replay a timeout? Whatever it was, they would go to commercial and come right back and I'm like, man That's what's up just to do from Carson said no offense. I like your content But alice collins ain't nothing my brother. That's fine. Again, everybody is entitled to their own opinion everybody's entitled that's fine And I why don't I hate when people say I Hate it whether it's this channel whether it's another channel when people Just because you disagree with what the person whose videos you're watching is saying It doesn't mean you have to be like you don't have to say. Oh, I like your content, but You can disagree. It's fine. You can disagree. I'm not going to get offended if you disagree You ain't got it. You ain't got to say that and don't think I'm trying to pick on you But I'm just using that as an example. You don't you don't have to explain yourself and be like, oh I like your channel, but I don't agree with what you're saying I like your channel, but uh, I think that's wrong Just tell me it's wrong or just tell me.  That's fine. I'm not mad I love jalen ramsey jalen ramsey called flacco.  No, no But at the same time jalen ramsey don't watch this channel. So Difference different scenario. So that that obviously though But it again, if you if you disagree with anything I say, that's fine. That is fine I don't take it offense to that at all. Trust me. I don't Oh, why I said, hey, Mike Wallace really helped the eagles. I saw Mike. I saw Mike Wallace and something that um Glock's you you're a fool, man. He said I like your channel, but I don't like your raven. They are thugs. Get out of here, man Jb say alice collins is nothing. How so this could this guy could rush rush for a thousand yards last season If he was pulled from the practice squad early in the year Um, I like your channel, but it's black man.  Let's see. I've met always mess it up Man, I mess it up every single time, man uh, do you think um Do you think we can put josh Gordon in the best wide receiver conversation? Oh, that's a tough one, man That's a tough one Because he is a beast But he just all he got to do is stay on the field All he got to do is stay on the field if he stays on the field He got all the shot in the world All he got to do is still he gets the he gets the mental game down He gets the mental part down and mental health. I I think he might struggle with mental health. I'm not 100 sure But I know mental health ain't no joke. I know people who got mental health issues and it is it is no joke So if that's something that he struggles with then that can that can be that's could be something that he carries his entire life So that can always be a part of him and he's always messed with his career his feelings his livelihood just everything Just everything So I do if he is going through that I do feel for the guy, man. I do feel for the guy Um, so I don't know if he is for sure or not, but if he is then that that can definitely weigh heavy on him, but If he could stay in on the field and be just mentally right then yeah, he got a chance He got as good as a chance as anybody man so Uh, correction the game is proof that all qbs struggle with one targets in a suspect o-line Fleckle and ryan Well, yeah, hey that oh I really like I said earlier, man. I thought that falcons orphans was gonna come out firing I'm like matt ryan got all these weapons. He got so many weapons julio um, mahamid sunoo calvin ridley, um Is hoopa is austin hoopa heard of something. What's wrong with him? I didn't see him in toy lola. What happened to him? um and also, uh davante freeman and tevin carl. I'm like, man. They got they got they got all these weapons What's up? they going off but They didn't Hooper did play. Oh, I didn't even know I didn't even know appreciate that wetson. I didn't even know Lebron James and austin hoopa sucks. That's why uh, but Remember the Kyle shanahan is not there anymore. Oh, well. Yeah, that was the offensive coordinator when they broke the record I think most points scored. I mean most touchdown scored in the season Um, he went off a hoop of drop balls. That's why you ain't see him. Oh, okay. Appreciate that. I ain't know Where would aj green rank among the best receivers in the game? He's up there. He's really good. He's he's really good He said falcons didn't play they started in the preseason, right? I'm not a hundred percent sure about that Uh flacco clutch, but matt ryan ain't uh wrap ryan can play better though It's actually tough to tell who's better It's that's that's forever gonna be an argument Um, because with flacco, of course, you look at numbers automatically you're gonna say matt ryan is better. That's fine um Who's had the better career? I'ma I'ma go with flacco automatic not only because I'm a ravens or not because I'm a ravens fan But because of the superbowl Because of the superbowl the superbowl It it trumps everything It trumps. Maybe one day ibrahim. Who knows but what's up, uh rick the superbowl trumps everything It trumps everything Regular season mvp uh offensive player of the year defensive player of the year, uh even hall of fame If I was a player Oh Engraving in your career. Would you rather get a superbowl ring or make it to the hall of fame? Superbowl ring all day, man Because that superbowl says hall of fame sets you apart but superbowl ring puts you in history forever And yes, the hall of fame does that too But superbowl ring is that's when your team came together that year and y'all are the best of the best And y'all are the only team that won There's only one superbowl winner. It's only one team that wins the superbowl I made it look like 11. So I'ma just put one hand up. It's only one two one team that wins the superbowl What's going on rate of map? It's only one team that wins the superbowl Hall of fame it can be like guys from like five six seven different teams But it's superbowl. It's one team. It's not twos not threes not four. It's one. That's it. So that's why Uh wetton said to me hall of fame because you could have been a bum and was in the championship team that won That's true. You could have been a bum, but you got your superbowl ring Your team made it to the top of the top And even if you were a bum on a superbowl team, you must not have been that bummy because you're not on the practice squad You are not a free agent. You are not somewhere Clearing waivers you're on the team. So you you couldn't be that much of a bum because you're still on the team So yeah, still superbowl over everything Superbowl over everything Everything so that's why I that's why I say Flacco's had the better career now statistically.  I don't even think that's that's even that close You could be the you could be the kicker that missed every field going at your point But still won and gotta you could be You could be but hey you kicked enough field goals to make it to the or kicked enough kickoffs to make it to the superbowl So you had an impact So, yeah, man Everybody everybody counts man. I love how there's no one saying their deal is great. It's not always the coach's fault Well, the um the the both teams defense play pretty good, man but they'll um more so for the falcons they because falcons I feel like For eagles, I didn't expect their offense to go off So that's that's why I've been more critical of falcons offense than eagles offense because I didn't I didn't expect anything from um the eagles offense I did not expect anything from their offense at all But for the falcons offense, I expected them to be putting on a show tonight I expected them to be just going off and who they always doing this thing, but You look for anybody else. I mean tevin colvin had a nice screen pass Thone to him and a nice catch and the y'all is after the catch on that screen, but The vante freeman broke for like a couple good runs or whatever, but it They didn't really do too much of anything They didn't do too much of anything so Oh, excuse me That was that but Anyway, appreciate y'all, man. Thank you the new people that's here appreciate y'all the old people that's here Thank y'all too. Um everybody man. This is team keep it clean. Um, thank you There team keep it clean for anybody that's new here We keep all the comments clean We don't do no cursing I don't talk bad about one another We just come through and we come through and chill. That's it come through and chill No matter what team you a fan of no matter who you like who you dislike We just come through and chill and that's it. That's it Simple it ain't it ain't nothing crazy. Nothing though. Nothing no details anything like that It ain't a bunch of we just come through and chill and that's it. Hazari. I know you're trying to troll right now I see what you I know. I know, you know how I feel about Kenneth Dixon. I know you know I know you know But um, yeah, man, we just come through and chill. We just talk football too, man We talk football. 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I will see y'all tomorrow morning. Um, and oh it's almost time for ball tomorrow Anyway, appreciate it man. Team keep it clean. We going man. We out


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Alright, thanks for staying with us. Now, a fraud-free and credible election is a necessary ingredient to the growth of democracy. However, election fraud has become a major challenge in Nigerian political system. Till date, reports show that election in Nigeria have been mad with vote-buying, falsification of results, underage voting, the use of security forces to intimidate voters, the use of thugs to intimidate voters, amongst others. Now, with the current reality of the just concluded presidential elections of 2023 and the results declaration underway, we are discussing the anomalies and the way forward, right? Please, let's hear what you have to say. Remember, you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or WhatsApp to do it, 1-803-84663. You can also tweet at us at WeishuAfka1, with the hashtag Weishu. Alright, so I'm going to bring in Kunle in a minute, but I just wanted to hear your thoughts. Diola, you voted in Surileire. Chinelo, you voted in Oniru. I voted in Amagudo. Let's just hear your general thoughts on this conversation. And Noma was an international observer, so it would be nice to hear everybody's thoughts on this.  What were your observations, you know, with these elections that we just had on the 25th of February? Okay, so because I voted in a very small community, my estate, it was largely very tasteful. There was, well, I mean, there was a very low turnout in proportion to the number of registered voters, you know, 700, 700 plus to 163. And it was also, I mean, in terms of demographic, it was also the very young people. Yeah, mostly, like about 80% of them were very young people. And for a closely-meaning community, I figured out that security should not have been a problem or should not have been an excuse as to why people would not come out to vote. But unfortunately, I mean, they really didn't come out to vote. In terms of the time that we started, at about 8, 8.39, they had not started. They were still trying to put a couple of things together. But they did start at about 10, and it was quite peaceful. The process was quite very transparent because everybody got involved there. Everybody was really interested from the beginning to when they sorted out the electoral materials to the point where they had to upload. And everything, everybody was sitting down there with them and was very interested in how they were going about the process. So I can say that to a very large extent, my polling unit was very peaceful. Someone tried to form a trouble, though, but people were quick to say that, listen, I mean, we're just here to vote. But I want to ask you, at the end of the process, was your result uploaded to the INEC server? Oh, yes, it was. Because I know that initially, you know, they had said that they wanted to leave and that they had issues with data or something. And somebody right there said that, okay, if data was your problem, we're going to sort you with data right here right now. And that the driver that was supposed to come and pick them, they were not going to allow them into the estate gate. So they told the guy to stay outside the estate gate, they locked the gate, and they made sure that those guys actually did everything. And even before they started counting the ballot papers that were not used, they insisted that they should cancel out every day right there so that there is no question of, okay, you still have these ballot papers and then you're trying to be funny with it. So we had to do all of that first. And then they started counting and then they uploaded. Okay, great.  Okay, so I mean, for us, it was relatively peaceful. It was organized as well. Everybody took turns to vote. Although our officers got there a bit two hours late actually, but then it was very, of course, they extended our voting time by two hours as well. At the end of it all, they counted and then they uploaded. So we didn't have any issues with any of that, apart from a few party agents cussing some ruckus here and there. But then apart from that, every other thing went on. Well, although I had expected, and I was going to ask this question, the Beaver's Machine, is it just for accreditation? Was it not also supposed to record the votes? I thought, okay, so what each person votes, the numbers will climb on the Beaver's Machine? I doubt that. It was just supposed to accredit and upload the results. Yeah. Mama, do you have your two cents on this before I come to? Oh, yes. Well, from the expert, and I did see quite a lot of videos on some to be false, some to do, but there was a lot of confusion. There are a lot of videos that were showing my vote, really show what to do. So a lot of it spread some form of fear. Some people were, you know, it was a little bit concerning, because you know, when situations like this happen, it is based on the information that is shared to the media that people begin to, emotions run wild, you know, people begin to panic. And I saw quite a bit of panic on some ends, while some ends, the messages that were received seem to be quite peaceful generally, but the major concern was the amount of information that was flying across the media platforms to incite fear and confusion. Absolutely. Let me bring in Kunle Lawal. He's an entrepreneur, an idea generator, TEDx speaker, and a patriot. He has a keen eye for opportunities based on his experience in the politics or in politics, working with non-governmental organization under the federal government. He's a passionate Nigerian, and of course, he's also detribalized. He considers his boundaries to be limitless and is really focused on changing the Nigerian narrative in the political, rather in political participation. And Kunle has joined us live also via Zoom. Thank you so much, Kunle Lawal, for joining us. Thank you very much. Good evening. So I'd like to first of all just give a quick summary, right? My polling unit, we had voted, we had counted, and everything was done. Okay, upload our results, and the next thing they go is the server is not working, or rather there's no network, and it was the same narrative. It was the same story across most of the polling unit reports that we got. So eventually, at about 10.30 or 10.13, or we checked at 10.30 that night, the INEC website to check the uploaded results based on our polling unit, only for me to discover that they had uploaded the House of Representative results sheet, and it was not even clear, it was blurred. They had uploaded that in the place of the presidential results, right? This is a verifiable conversation.  It was, it still, even up until this morning, I still confirm they had not rectified it. Now, what was the essence of beavers in this election? Because to my mind, beavers were supposed to be the integrity check. Beavers were supposed to be the machine that whatever happens, right, I'm not about any political party here. I'm about integrity of the process that the will of the people would stand. So what was the essence, first of all, of the beavers, and did it achieve its purpose based on your, what's it called, observation? Okay, so thank you very much. So first and foremost, we first had to first understand how the whole system works. I would say a lot of Nigerians were surprised at systems and how they failed and how things went bad. And that was because I think adequate political education was not paid attention to by Nigerians. So I'll start. Your credit, which is what's supposed to happen. You vote after voting, voting, votes accounted after they accounted. Now, this is critical. The result sheets, which had what the parties called needs to be signed and stamped and shown to the voters. I want to ask, in your polling unit, was this shown to stamped and signed? You get a picture of it? We all took pictures of the signed, what's it called? Result sheets. We all took the pictures. It's okay. I'm just following the process. Politics is not emotional. Let's keep it. So it's signed and stamped. You have that. You should be able to send or communicate that to INEC directly. If that is not what is on the IRF portal. So if what is on the portal is different and blurry, you should send, communicate your polling unit, communicate your location, your world, algae, and state and send that to INEC. You may have responses, them channels has one, a lot of video houses have one. You could just reach out to these situation rooms and present this information. This information will be used and it will be collected and it will be corrected. Trust me on that. So we need to trust that process. So the way INEC built it, this is supposed to happen after it's signed, stamped, and then it is sent. Now it needs to be sent immediately, not in the night, not the day after, not because we've had excuses across Nigeria. Well, we're part of situation rooms. I think about five or six across Nigeria. We've had of ad hoc staff who said it felt like they needed to go and take a shower before they uploaded on the beavers. Some said they needed to watch if they were thinking of the next day's football match and they forgot. A lot of things happened and for me I call it the Nigerian factor. So these colorations are anomalies which we've named this particular conversation over, accord a lot. And you need to first critically understand that as much as INEC is INEC, we need to understand that INEC first recruits ad hoc staff who are barely trained in two months to go and manage an election that is across 923,000 square kilometers of country in Nigeria. It's very critical that also the security agents are not enough. We have 176,600 polling units and the security agents deployed are approximately 400,000. If you put that and you juxtapose that, that to make it about 2.5 security agents per polling unit. Now, what's most shocking is that Nigeria has 93.4 million voters. Imagine all the voters in Nigeria came out with 400,000 to be able to secure the exact situation. So there are take-homes from what has happened and we've criticized the whole system. So I think there are take-homes from this which could be used. I think take-homes are Nigeria right now is not strong enough or large enough to conduct a one-day election. I'm one of the proponents and I'll be pushing it forward. I am writing a memo to INEC and I still would be pushing forward my recommendation that Nigeria national elections become staggered about six states per day. When we go like that and the results come out, it will be manageable because you see what happened. And I know a lot of people are concerned with the anomalies they're seeing. Let's go back and take the Oslo case which is where, of course, INEC, the defendant who is now the governor, called us INEC, which is guaranteed by the Electra Act 2032, recalled the B-Bus accreditation numbers. And INEC is forced by law to provide that. And once that is provided, some votes that were calculated over voting that was noticed can be brought down by a lot of parameters. I heard somebody say something about B-Bus recording votes. I would say I just recall the result sheet. So this result sheet, you get to the correct quarters. As long as it was stamped and signed and multiple people report that, you get a result on your polling unit. So B-Bus were meant to upload results at polling units. And I can tell you for free that majority of those polling units never got the chance for their result sheet to be uploaded at the polling unit. Some of them, it was with a lot of work. Now, the particular polling unit I stayed back till 10.30 a.m. once we had told them that if you do not upload this thing, you are not leaving. We didn't finish voting until about 4 a.m. We started counting the votes. We finished at around 5 a.m. To even fill the result sheet, they would say, oh, they are looking for a particular code. At some polling unit, the guy was claiming, I don't even know how to fill the sheet. When you then eventually fill the sheet to take the picture and upload it into the IRF server, they did not do that. And this thing went across. So how do we even test the integrity of this election that was just concluded? How do we test it? How do we trust the process? Because some people have argued that we have to wait. Let them announce the result that we go to the tribunal. But when you are even seeing it glaring that from the go, whatever it is that you are announcing, doesn't seem to correlate with the numbers and the figures that we have recorded on our own. How do we fold our arms and watch this continue? Credible elections in a country anywhere in the world are guaranteed not by the electoral commission, but guaranteed by the electorate. That's the honest free. So as much as INEC is trying to push forward a good election, it's only rights that the owners is on the citizens, like you guys did, that this must be uploaded by the ad hoc staff at the polling unit, immediately you insisted that's the right thing to do. And there's a good thing with Viva as long as the information was imputed, once it accesses network to send that information directly to INEC servers. So as long as the information which was on it was done properly and you were there, trust me the moment it has access to internet to transmit it to that INEC that is that is in place. So I don't represent INEC. You need to understand this.  I think his name is first or second way. He can manage this. But what I'm trying to do is what I understand from one side of the fence. And you know, understand to appease what you are trying to do with us as a very unhappy person who voted and I'm trying to balance the status quo. So I know what's being done on this side and I know what's being done on the other side. And we're trying to put a full coverage. You don't need to wait for a tribunal. You don't need to wait for the end of an election cycle. Send your results as signed and stamped right now. You should have done that actually as yesterday. Thank you. Okay. Let me come to the ladies. Okay. You said credible election is actually up to the electorate, not the electoral commission. So I'd like to ask what happened in the in the sense of overvoting and under age voting? Is that also the fault of the electorate and not the electoral commission? If you're asking me, you know, I need to remind you guys I am not I need to obviously So this angle, you guys need to chill. So where were we? So on the age voting, yes, the registrations of under age voting, do they have those cards? Yes, they do. In the case it's where they have the cards to be very, very hard to detect because you can't separate the name or an age. The age will be falsified for the person to have it. So it might not be able to tell. But in the case of overvoting, I will call again into question the or state elections, where in case, Viva records all accredited voters. Now, I will tell you about the electoral act 2010. And I'll tell you the improvement in the electoral act 2020. So in the electoral act 2010, if a PU that's a polling unit had exactly 1000 people, INEC was only concerned with the voting, not exceeding those 1000 whether 20 were accredited or not. Now in 2020 electoral act, as long as the number accredited was let's say 850 of a polling unit that has let's say 1500 INEC is only concerned with the 850. And if there is a situation of overvoting, that would be dealt with. And that was what happened in a portion that led to the upturn of the Adelaide case situation. So as much as we do not do, I don't think anybody in the world supports under age voting or anybody supports anything wrong. I will say the situations I would always call them and context them and package them under the Nigerian factor or the amazing predictability of electoral ingenuity by politicians. Now the most planting society in the school has been doing their own things for unfair elections, right? And citizens being able to have their votes count. So in this case of INEC, who had promised Nigerians that everything was ready to be able to hold elections. So having more mad power now, it's obvious that this is an anomaly. So you can place Nigerians and everything is ready. That means inclusive of the mad power that is required to carry out elections successfully across Nigeria should have been put in place. But from the results that were seen and certain cases that happened in French areas in the country, it was obvious that they were cases for no mad power. So how can this be rectified for subsequent elections? Thank you very much, Noma. And I said this earlier, I don't know whether you caught it. And my position was kind of simple. I don't believe that Nigeria and like I said, I'm writing a recommendation to INEC. I don't believe Nigeria can conduct an election across 932,000 square meters and across 93.4 million people. What I think we should do is have staggered elections, pick six days, six states a day, and then just flow across the parameters. Release the results immediately. We'll be able to reduce and focus our security forces, which are less than 500,000 put together. We'll be to focus our security forces on exactly just six states and actually combating and ensuring electoral security and ensuring that these things are done properly. I think the fact that we try to promote or we try to handle 36 states in one day is cumbersome. I would say even the American elections are staggered and so is with most countries. Now, you would not compare yourself to the UK, which runs a parliamentary system and votes within a political party. And even when it's going to vote a consensus, the population of the UK is not up to Katna State alone. And that therein lies the problem. So I think that INEC needs to revisit its system. It needs to understand its exact threats and then it needs to do a perfect sort of analysis on these present elections and taking public science recommendations that have been put forward by others in space to ensure that these elections are free and fair. Now, this is not to punch the electorate at all, but we also need to be very, very clear on the kind of understanding the electoral act as citizens. And we also need to be very well politically literate in understanding the exact things that need to be done as a citizen so that if everybody is armed with the law and understand what cannot be done and what can be done, situations like where the ad hoc staff said they were going to upload the thing the next day, people would have stood like they stood at OAS polling unit and say, if we are not uploading here, you're not leaving here, but we have these situations across the country. And it's all because a few people did not know. So it's INEC's mandate. INEC's mandate is one thing, but I still say the people too need to understand the mandate and push INEC for such credible things. And I also remember that INEC is an entity that can be sued or can sue. So I do not see why citizens have not taken it into their arms and said, you know what, this is totally not what we expected. Or yeah, these elections went the way the numbers or the positions are the way they are, but some numbers have been altered along the way and say, INEC, we hold you to account on this and you should defend with reasonable cause why such things are that way, that power lies in citizens being honest. And I know that right now, before women are with here, they want to have me for breakfast with the way I'm looking at OAS eyes are cool, but I keep reminding you I do not represent INEC and I'm trying to form a bridge between what the law is and how it is impartially. Okay, trust me, I want to do more than have you for breakfast. Because I don't know, for some strange reason, a lot of people truly believed in this system, and that's why everybody came out, you know, with their PVCs and all of that. But so it's just, you know, I can't explain how I feel. But let's take a break, right? When we come back from the break, we'll continue the conversation. I think Diola has a question. Stay with us and we'll be right back. All right, thanks for staying with us. Now if you just tuned in, we're discussing the 2023 elections, the anomalies and the way forward and we have with us Kulela. Wow. I remember you can join this conversation send us an SMS or WhatsApp to read 1-803-4663. You can also tweet at us at Weissho after one, or the hashtag Weissho. Diola, you had a question, right? Okay, so something happened at my polling unit. I'm not sure as to the authenticity of it, but I remember that, I mean, you know, when the queue was so much, when people came and all that, there was a lot of agitation around the fact that we needed to be done by 2.30. And I was wondering, I mean, what happened at 2.30? And, you know, there were some talks from the agents that, oh, the beavers or whatever, or they don't know if the thing was going to shut down. So whatever they don't do by 2.30, it won't count.  So I'm imagining that if this was maybe the position of INEC, maybe this was an instruction given to the agents, would this have been replicated in other polling units? And how much of this would have actually disenfranchised people from actually participating in the vote, considering that a lot of them, a lot of the INEC officials even got to their polling unit very late. So does it mean that all the polling units where they even took the voting, I mean, till 10 p.m., like OASED or 3 p.m. or 5 p.m., they just won't tell the electorate. It just means that that kind of vote is just, you know, is declared void. I mean, that was very confusing for me. So I don't know if Puli Lawal can shed some light on that. Well, what I'm about to say, Yuku, I'm a little bit more, but I have to say because it's the law and it's what's tenable in Nigeria. INEC and ESOs in Nigeria spent over one year telling people how the process was. If you didn't choose to look at it, I don't think we can blame anybody for that except the electorate, but I'm going to repeat the process for you, Clem. So voting starts, INEC registration and everything starts at about eight o'clock. And this is supposed to continue. Now, what happens at 2.30 is that nobody is not on the queue. If you are on the queue 30, you are accepted, meaning you have till 2.30 to find your way to your polling unit. But if you are not on the queue by 2.30, according to the laws and the directive set by INEC, you will not be allowed to join queue and vote. You need to be on the queue before 2.30. This does not mean the progress is not working. This is because we have an election we plan to complete in a day. This is also because we know Nigerians will choose to come 7 o'clock if we let them. I'm not INEC, but generally if we let Nigerians know what I think people are doing. So there's a 2.30 turn for when you must reach your polling unit. And this is not, and this information was critically shared. It was massively spent money on. But you know, kind of people are more interested in whether you let your chair decide she cannot. And that's what's more important in Nigeria. And for me, I think I'm not going to be nice with electorate. This particular process, right? See, maybe Nigerians in the past were not interested in politics. For the first time, I must say that I am super proud of every Nigerian because a lot of Nigerians, they knew the laws, they knew the process. And let me tell you for free, when these people started acting up at the polling unit where my sister eventually voted, guess what? The woman came up at 12 midnight saying that ideally she's not supposed to be doing this thing because, you know, the time is way past. I said it's a lie madam. We know the law. The law says that you should be here before 2.30. A lot of these people came at 8am. You deliberately dragged the process until it got to 3.30am before some people could cast their vote, right? And the law says you do not leave until the last person casts their vote. So you are the one that is putting the delays and you are the one that would reap the consequences of the delay, right? So I beg your pardon. Not everybody was interested in you, doche and his sidekick. No. We were interested in these politics and for, as far as I'm concerned, INEC failed us. That's a totally separate situation. You have left what we were talking about which was 2.30 and jumped into another separate situation which was the adult staff coming late. That's a separate situation which of course will mean another thing. So if the INEC staff was not there, it is up to you to alert INEC's contacts and let them know. And INEC will not stop you. Wait, please. Oh, I let you finish. So INEC will not stop you and it is clearly within your rights as a Nigerian, as a citizen to ensure that you vote. So INEC, if they come late in those situations and in some situations which occurred that went until night and I have case studies of bios and multiple, you need to remember that we were taking monitoring positions from across Nigeria. I need what went on. I'm not talking of one spot. I'm not talking of one flash. Let's move on. Let's move on. I want to ask a question. Hold on. For polling units where they did not even vote at all because the voting materials did not get to them, right? Is it right for the INEC chairman to be announcing results for polling units where clearly some people were disenfranchised and they did not vote at all? I need to make clear the process again. If the resident electrical commissioner of that state declares results there, in a case where people have reported, remember that you must report this, that will be corrected because the INEC chairman is responding to the results that he has been handed over to by direct, not that he's responding to the fact he knows there was no election in that place and then decided to read an election. So you need to understand these things and the truth is I'm not, like I said, I'm not INEC and I'm not defending INEC, but I understand the process in which all this works around and I'm just trying to lay it out clear so that everything is open. So you're not saying it's this person or it's that person. I'm making it clear. That means the state wreck of that particular state is culpable. The truth is that Nigerians will scream restructuring so much and we'll never ever pay attention to the levels of processing where we just stop with the end, which is the product. INEC chairmans, not at him. No, that's not how it is. There are people who have made mistakes along the line, probably a word rack or a state wreck who must have allowed these things happen. You can't, yes, the INEC chairman would read it based on his job as arbiter to collect such results from the state wreck and read them. But that does not mean that INEC will not go into total review of all these things and all these matters eventually. They're just doing what they need to do right now as required by law. And I'm not INEC word that you're throwing bombs at this thing. No, I'm not throwing bombs at you, Kunle. We are having a conversation, right? I am just trying to express my frustration because as far as I'm concerned, right, this was a process that was supposed to be transparent. This was a process that everybody actually believed that their PVC could speak for them. And the thing, the point is, if INEC was, I've had a little bit of integrity in the process and uploaded the results at polling units just as it promised from day one. And we saw the results. Everybody would take the results. Based on the, at least we have seen that, okay, our results that we counted, our results that we saw, the shit everything was uploaded right. But how can you tell me the same story across board? Oh, the network is not going. The network is not going. And somebody is still trying to tell me that we should be quiet and watch them announce those kinds of falsified results. That is why a senator would walk out of the INEC Collation Center in Abuja. So what is the way forward? I need to, I need to first make this clear. There's other staff employed by INEC. Some of them might have been culpable or a lot of them might have been culpable. The situations in which results were not recorded or the anomalies in, in which situations happened. Flash spots are Lagos, Rivers, Bayelsa, parts of, in little few parts of Abuja, Kebi, Kebi was way behind, had to start almost again because of the problems. I'm clear with this information. But if you count other states, like Platoon, when smoothly, and a lot of other states, it begs to answer one critical question. And I'm being very dicey with this. It begs to answer the places that became flashpoints, which elections. It is clear beyond reasonable doubt that some things were altered according to, to some people's preferences. And that is what happened. It is what's in INEC's intention. It was the, the various activities of a few set of politicians. Now I'm restricted to what I can say and what I cannot say till some things are verified. But I'm being very clear from what we have seen, from what we picked up from situation rules. Some things happened because some people in control of some particular places. And this is not INEC. This is INEC's ad hoc staff. I need to make that very fair. And those were the problems which eventually encountered. Did INEC envision this? Yes, they should have. If they didn't, then I think the chairman is capable enough not to have wanted to deliver a very clear election because he must have tried to see this out. Yes, you can't see everything in this kind of situation. But INEC should have a response that gives Nigerians the basis to understand that these elections were credible and fair. Let me keep quiet for now. Do you want to come in? So Kune, what would you in your, in your experience opinion, what are some of the recommendations that you can give moving forward if we are to experience an even more credible election process? What are the two areas or key points that you need to push out to the authorities or whoever needs to listen? What are the things that we need to pay attention to if we are to have credible or to even reduce to the barest minimum these anomalies have you experienced so far? Norma, thank you very much. And Norma, I stated one earlier, one Nigerian needs to stagger its elections, whether it's six days per day and they run it across six days or seven days with the FCT and that would be fine. We should have our elections. I had mentioned this earlier because it's proved from 1999 to now that it's totally impossible for us to handle the power of Nigeria and it's not a bad thing. The US does something like that because the US is quite large. And you know, if you look at also Chinese elections, it's not, it's not, how do I put it? It's not a click and get the winner. It's not a jackpot or a casino. So we need to be able to stagger elections because we aren't there yet. Second thing is I think INEC and a few other things have been very lax on candidates and political parties. On such infringements, everybody seems to understand that things can be done. I'll give you an example. We saw videos and things going on that were verified. But people saying if you do not vote in a certain party, nobody should vote in that polling unit. The thing is that what we've done in Nigeria is blame the problem and not attack the problem from the roots. And for me, I think any party should be penalized by 10,000 votes if that ever happens in any polling unit. So we need to also review our electoral laws and get people punished for doing the wrong thing properly. And it's not good enough for us to say who are arrested and punished by infringement according to the electoral law. The people that committed these crimes. One of the people who control the people to punish to commit these crimes. They are the admin accessories and they are guilty of the truth. So they're going to be left alone. Guys just caught are just going to be dealt with. And I'm strongly of the opinion for every one person you catch stealing a ballot or breaking the electoral laws, the political party should pay with a minus of 1000 votes immediately per person. I think when that happens, we're going to really get serious and nobody is going to try to overturn something which is the civic right and responsibility of every Nigerian. I like your suggestions only. And I wanted to ask you now, right? For the way forward now with this election that has held, because we cannot wait for another election cycle to do this target elections for this one that has held, right? Because again, it's not like these people don't see videos, right? They see the videos, they see the proofs, but they come up to tell you that it's doctored. Now a lot of Nigerians took snapshots of their result sheets. But you know how we are in a country where they will tell you that, oh, that result sheet that you snapped that is falsified, it is only the one that comes from the agent. Now we've been seeing so many videos flying around of multiple of Tom printing by one INEC agent, the ad hoc staffs and all of that. But nothing has been said by the INEC chairman. Nothing has been done, right? So what is the way forward for these particular elections that we just concluded? What do we do with all of these things that has happened? You said one thing before that we should petition the INEC, right? We should petition them. We should start writing the petition against them. What else can we do as citizens? I think a lot of Syriza's have taken, which I'm aware, have taken a full hand on this and they want to put together a database of all these polling unit discrepancies and put them together and then face INEC with one direct square of law. I know this is being done and I'm also aware, I cannot reveal that much, but I'm also aware of a lot of work being done to ensure that this process is credible by people which include of course even the electoral college which I stand. But like I said, I cannot divulge too much information while speaking, but this is not because I can't discuss in the process to protect what is coming. And I must clearly state this, that the woman that was in Nassarawa, I believe she has been arrested and a lot of things where there's an attempt to correct quite a lot of misnomers that happened there with her checking and whatever she was doing. I think where the problem lies is that INEC wants us to report directly to them with timestamps when these things happen, add it to the unit and etc. And I think we need to be able to do this as citizens. Okay, so my question is actually very simple. You see that process of us having to show the ballot and then start counting APC one, APC two. I think that process is actually very mind-boggling and time-wasting. So how can we improve the process of counting? By voting electronically, I can answer you. No Ma, I would answer this very simply. I've always been a proponent of E-Election in my time within a political party. I believe with the conjunction and help of my office, the first in Trappati E-Election and only Trappati E-Election ratified that I am accustomed by myself and the party. So I've always been a proponent of E-Elections. I know that a lot of politicians are scared they will not emerge or win. I'm also a proponent for the fact that E-Elections can help curb security issues that we have. Most people have said, ah, it could be hacked. But you know, I keep laughing. We trust our money with banks and we cannot and in the U.S.S. decode whether we can trust our savings or one vote, you can then trust it with me. But you know, you know our politicians will never agree to E-Voting now. How else will they tell you that they have 10 billion voters in certain parts of the country? Let's take comments because we ran out of time. Okay. So this one is from Austin. Austin from Delta. And Austin says, I totally disagree with your guests. Annek failed woefully because beavers are supposed to be an integrity test, not uploading the results real-time for suspicion and lack of transparency. Why was it possible to upload that of reps as who are stated and that of presidential worsens? Why should your guests place the burden on citizens to upload whereas there is a body responsible for that, having assured Nigerians that they were ready? It's a shame. It's a shame, I think he means. While I am not overlooking the issue of fluctuating network at times, why was electronic transmission system not upscaled before the election without the money's pumping? Let me tell you the truth. Confidence is eroded, giving room to conspiracy theory. Apart from beavers, how do they explain later rival appalling units and lack of sufficient ink? If they know they were not ready, why did they amount to this? Thank you. Thank you, Austin. No more quickly. All right. So this is from Daniel Elo and he says, Good evening, my dear beautiful sisters of all, are you saying hashtag ways? 2022 elections, anomalies and the way forward. My main experience on election day was that accreditation that was supposed to start at 8 a.m. did not start till almost 11 a.m. and voting commenced immediately. Secondly, the figures concerning the election results that I have been seeing is highly unacceptable. I see not a rat and suspect would buy and falsification of these votes. No shadow of doubt about that. Other agency and presidential candidates to react to defeat in Lagos States. I really don't understand what they mean. Well, candidates win in Lagos States and is it due on my effect? He's asking a question. So three bozars to my dear beautiful sister Chinnello for hosting the show for over one week. She did a marvelous and amazing job. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you, Daniel Elo. Thank you so much. Bakun Le, thank you so much for being our guest today. I'm sorry, this is not an account of you. I enjoyed my time on the cross, but I'm going to close and say this. You see, before you accuse a sister, you need to understand it. And you know, when I listen to your guests, your comments, I keep remembering how politically illiterate Nigeria is. And it's no offense. You feel that because I didn't make a statement and say this guy's a thief, so I stole his boots. That's what you want to hear. It won't happen. And I'll tell you why, because I know what exactly is going on. I'm not going to say that on TV. So anyway, it was a great show. I enjoyed it and I enjoyed my time here. Thank you. Thank you so much. We're going to bring you again and we're going to do the basketball again. Next time, I'm coming with God's blessing. And you have to be live in the studio so that I can give you a feast. But thank you so much, Kulela. You're always an amazing guest. Thank you, Chinelo. Thank you, Noma. And thank you, Diola. 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