Hello, everyone. This presentation rests uneasily between two polls. On the one hand, it's part of a larger project which has a handbook for non-biblical academics as the intended readers. And then the other poll is this particular conference as a biblical studies event. And when I initially gave James my title, I had the former, that is non-BS academics in mind. And this has framed my presentation. So I realize that I'll be preaching to the choir and presenting you with problems and considerations which you most probably already are aware. So I hereby issue a blanket apology for each and every time you think, duh. Another problem is that my own interests are more along the lines of politics in the Bible. So I have chosen translation as an attempt at approaching Bible in politics and thus connecting the ancient context and contemporary appropriation in some fashion. But rest assured, I will be harping on about the same old, same old. So in her study on translation, history, and colonialism, Thayashwini Niranjana bemoans the lack of awareness of the quote, constructed nature of cultural translations in that translation is always producing, rather than merely reflecting or imitating an original end quote. Niranjana's discussions pertain primarily to translations of colonial literature into English, but we can use it to remind ourselves of the Bible as end product of multiple struggles, practices of mastery, and imperialist history, duh. So the first section and the largest of the paper deals with a cross-section of translations of two biblical texts from First Kings and one from John. The first text is First Kings 10, 14 to 15, which lists the amount of gold Solomon had. And the second text is First Kings 10, 26 to 29, which also boasts of Solomon's wealth in terms of silver, cedar, horses, and chariots. And so I've made a couple of slides with the text on. And so obviously that's the Hebrew text. And then that my very clumsy translation, which is not meant to flow in any way, but just to sort of give an idea of sort of what the words signify in some way. So the problem with this one is that the text of One Kings 10, 14 to 15, it seems that the Hebrew text poses a bit of difficulty because the English demands a word which connects the relationship between 14 and 15. And so I've just sort of juxtaposed them. And so they don't really connect, as you can see, in my translation. And the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 666 kikar, apart from seeking people and traffic of peddlers and all the kings of Arabia and the tributaries of the land. So I've come with a couple of examples from translations and how they solve this problem. And I begin with the least invasive. And they're the translations of the King James version and the American Standard version. And they both insert a that that I've put in bold. And then if we take the American Standard version, now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 603 score and six talents of gold, besides that, which the traders bought and the traffic of the merchants and all the kings and so on. And so if we then move on to the next one, which is, of course, an earlier translation, Wycliffe's translation. And I am not going to read that out loud. I don't know if anyone offers. But what I've highlighted, and I can see that doesn't come across quite well on the screen. But Wycliffe puts in rentice as that which connects, well, and that is as well. But he puts in a more specific term as that which connects the gold in verse 14 and 15. And then we turn to the good news translation and new international version. And we see that they have taken equal liberties in interpreting this that. So every year, this is the good news translation, every year King Solomon received over 25 tons of gold. In addition to the taxes paid by merchants, the profits from trade and tribute paid by the Arabian kings and the governors of the Israelite districts. And the new international version, the weight of the gold that Solomon received yearly was 666 talents, not including the revenues from merchants and traders and from all the Arabian kings and the governors of the land. So the crucial word which is being translated as rentice in Wycliffe, that in King James and American standard, taxing good news, and revenue in the new international version is not there in the Hebrew text. But verse 15 seems to refer back to the gold in verse 14 so that it reads the goal that came to Solomon apart from all these people was 666 kikar. So while the insertion of the pronoun that refers back to the gold in verse 14, Wycliffe, good news and NIV happily deploy nouns from their own socioeconomic context to fill this gap creating as it were an interpretation of the nature of the incoming gold. For Wycliffe, this is the feudal system which is also indicated by the dukes which was in the dukes of the earth. And then we'll see in the next example he refers to knights as well. And the context for good news and NIV is of course capitalism. All right, so if we then turn to translations of First Kings 1026 to 9, I'm particularly interested in the translation of the verb Asaf in verse 26 and then sort of tangentially interested in the translation of the other verbs, matzah, lakach, ala, and yatsah in 28 and 29. So again, my own translation intends to show the problems of the text and very clumsy. But the text is very ambiguous and what is interesting is how the various translations resolve the ambiguity and sharpen the focus of the text. So Asaf, the verb in verse 26, will, as you will see, is translated as gathering together in the older translations. So Wycliffe gathered together in verse 26 and King James as well gathered together. And then the good news, Bible and NIV, they have built up and accumulated, respectively. And of course, in particular, accumulate is a word that we should carefully note in that this is one of the basic principles of the circulation of capital in Marx's analysis in capital. So this circulation of commodities and capital, essential to capitalism, is undoubtedly what goes on in the NIV translation of verses 28 and 29. If you look at what's going on there, Solomon's horses were imported from Egypt and from, and I'm tempted to say Kuwee, but that's probably not how you pronounce it. But the royal merchants purchased them from, how would you pronounce that, someone? Q, QE, whatever. The royal merchants purchased them from at the current price. They imported a chariot from Egypt for 600 shekels of silver and a horse for 150. They also exported them to all the kings of the Hittites and of the Arameans. And so I'll just pop back to my sort of whatever. And so the horses were taken out of Egypt and gathered from this place. A king took them and gathered them or from this place at a price. Carriage came up and went out from Egypt and you get the picture, right? I mean, there's not a lot of export, import and profit margin here, but that's what we then get in the NIV. So and the good news translation, though initially occupied with Solomon's militarization of his empire through this building up of a force of 1,400 chariots and 12,000 cavalry horses goes into total overdrive when it comes to the circulation of the horses and the chariots. The king's agent control the export of horses from Masri and Kilikia and the export of chariots from Egypt. They supply the Hittite and Syrian kings with horses and chariots, selling chariots for 600 pieces of silver each and horses for 150 each. And so here Egypt is included in Solomon's sphere of economic, Solomon's sphere of economic influence in that Solomon is in control of the Egyptian export and is the one making the profits as a crucial element of the supply chain. So these examples were merely to show the extent of contemporary socioeconomics on the translation of the Bible and to pose the question how people with no access to the Hebrew text can come to grasp the inescapably ideological translations of the Bible or to use one of Hugh's phrases, come to terms with the socioeconomic meme pool which constitutes its host. Another example whose taming is of a more sort of at surface level at least is of a more theological nature is from John. And so in my recent work on the body of Jesus in John it eventually became clear to me that basically the whole interpretation of John rested on two words, and humane or among us in 114. So the word became flesh and lived among us and we have seen his glory and so on. Now every single interpretation of Jesus in John authorizes itself on these two words ultimately. That's what it comes back to in the end. And there's only one commentator who considers the alternative and let's face it much more likely translation of in us. C.K. Barrett notes in his commentary that en humane does not mean that the word, he says, en humane does not mean that the word dwelt in our human nature is in a tent. Though the old Syriac rendering ban in us may be held to suggest this, end quote. Barrett of course does not argue the point but merely states it to be so. While Bufmann does not consider this interpretation, he does provide an interesting parallel in his discussion of Menin in 538 where he notes that the evangelist speaks of the word abiding in the hearer or rather to be very precise the verse reads and this is taken from the new revised standard version. You have never heard his voice or seen his form and you do not have his word abiding in you because you do not believe him whom he has sent. And finally, the Nag Hammadi treatise Trimorphic Protenoia which is the self revelation of the first thought refers to the manifestation of quote, myself to them in their tents, end quote and that's an interpretation which Jan Helderman notes is a conscious reinterpretation and reinterpretation of John 1.14. The point of the translation in us is of course a sharpening of Anne's Casemann's work on John which showed how that which is uniquely Johanine had been repressed or domesticated within New Testament exegesis of his day. Casemann noted that the statement in John 1.14a, the word became flesh, had been overly emphasized by historical critical exegesis in order to force the text to follow a more traditional line of interpretation namely quote, the possibility of writing the earthly story of Jesus end quote. Casemann on the other hand preferred to emphasize the confession which follows this statement namely we beheld his glory and that led him to his famous assessment of John as pre or naively dacetic. So the word became flesh and lived among us is in Johanine scholarship regarded as an untranscendable non-negotiable guarantee for Jesus having flesh, hence a body, hence being human, hence having lived and so on. And so firmly lodged is this translation and interpretation that contesting it amounts to borderline madness in the eyes of John scholars which in itself should cause heightened awareness. The translation of in us actually supports the general contempt or even revulsion which this particular book shows towards the realm of everyday labor, life, bread and its flesh. Okay, so why should we then stop at translation? We could go back a step further and consider the composite nature of the biblical text. In criticism of heaven, Roland Bohr shows how Ernst Bloch examines the imposition of ruling class ideologies on the biblical text as well as the strategies of subversive slave talk. Bloch is interested in masked or underground texts which are subversive texts that have subsequently been redacted or rendered subversive through later usage. The function of these texts is to appease and criticize rulers at one at the same time. And an example which Bloch gives is the text of Korra's Rebellion in Numbers 16 which tells of a priestly rebellion. Are you checking Facebook? I'm tweeting you. Oh, okay. Number 16 which tells of a priestly rebellion on the issue of ritual and incense which is crushed through divine intervention. Bloch is interested in the divine intervention and how God opens the ground which swallows up Korra and his conspirators as an example to anyone else who would rebel. This is according to Bloch, a God of white guard terror who emerges from the redactors pen. And this rebellion is the echo of political rebellion which reverberates through the texts. This is not only indicated by the punishment but also the perpetual recurrence of the Israelites grumbling throughout the chapter. For Bloch this indicates a rebellious anti-Yahweh voice that has been turned into something else. The sign of disobedience, sorry, the quote began with a rebellious anti-Yahweh voice that has been turned into something else. The sign of disobedience and recalcitrance on the part of the people themselves, end quote. Now I know this sounds totally old school and that the idea of tracing redactional seams in the text has become an abhorrence to many. But I think the idea of domesticating the politically radical nature of the text before we even begin to translate it, a fruitful one. Especially given the efforts of translations to smooth the rough edges and make the text easily digestible. And nowhere is this more clear than in the meaning-based translations spreading like tongues of fire in every language under the sun in attempts to resurrect a dormant Christianity. These Bibles, the good news translation which are included in the examples here and the Good Nachricht Bible in German and the new Autele in Danish, along with the international translations or sorry, intermedial translations such as the Bible Illuminated and the Manga Bible, all attempt to erase the distance between the ancient cultural context and our later one. Thereby enculturating the Bible to a particular context, excuse me, and more importantly, neutralizing its challenges to contemporary society. As Marx noted in a different but not entirely unrelated context, quote, with so complete a difference between the material economic conditions of the ancient and the modern class struggles, the political figure is produced by them can likewise have no more in common with one another than the archbishop of Canterbury has with the high priest Samuel, end quote. So to conclude, I want to cite a number of questions and I'm sure you're all familiar with these questions in one way or another. Where is the manuscript of the Bible? There are two sections. There are four different gospels, canon. There are more gospels outside the Bible and last but not least, what do you mean fragments? Now these questions and more just like them have arisen in conversations with people obviously not as well versed in the intricacies of Bible basics as we are. I'm not only repeating these snippets of conversation to poke fun at people but also to remind us of how much or in this case how little people actually know about the Bible as an ideological product. Also this lack of knowledge at knee jerk level not to mention the surprise when corrected or informed shows the position of the Bible as a saintly relic rather than as a collection of texts. So I want to close with these sort of ponderings or considerations. To what extent do we participate in perpetuating this mystification and would we consider it a necessity to inform people of what goes on in the theological engine room before the book even hits the streets in all its rapidly increasing configurations. Thank you.


We have another instance where somebody attended a Joe Biden rally, and decided to politely challenge him on a particular aspect of his campaign, and predictably he melted down and once again told that voter to support someone else not to vote for him. And this really goes to show you that Joe Biden doesn't have the temperament to take on Donald Trump or become the president, and it also shows you that he melts down under the most minimal amount of scrutiny that in the general against Donald Trump, he would unquestionably not be able to hold his own. Take a look. Look, you're asking a picture of me coming up and telling me you don't support me. No, no, no, my plan. Yeah, you did. You said that I would support you in the general. I'm looking for a primary. We're happy to get over. That's what I'm looking for, okay? Just because we're finding it. You believe that Bernie can do something by 2030? I'm actually supporting Tom Steyer. Tom Steyer? Well, that's good. He's the guy that did more full-fledged. We have a long line right there. We have a long line right there. The entire country, thank you. Thank you for having me to get in the picture. So my favorite part was at the end when that guy asked if he didn't get a picture. I mean, how awkward. And Joe Biden just, he decided to blame Bernie Sanders. Oh, well, you're supporting Bernie Sanders. He just assumed that that guy was a Bernie Sanders supporter, which kind of goes to show you that Bernie is getting under Joe Biden's skin because as time goes on, these criticisms of Joe Biden's record when it comes to social security are starting to hurt him because as this article from the Intercept points out, older voters are fleeing from Biden to Bernie Sanders. And it's because his record on social security is unreliable. Now, getting to the substance here, like this guy was asking him for a very basic policy concession because Joe Biden claims that he wants to do something about climate change. However, he is supporting fracking, right? He doesn't want to end fracking immediately. He supports these types of pipelines, at least tacitly. And this guy is basically just asking him, would you reconsider? And Joe Biden won't even engage with him in good faith. He just says, well, go vote for someone else or something like that. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Someone who he does not believe is going to vote for him. He just disregards entirely.  That's what a candidate who is running to fix the country would say. But Joe Biden, I mean, this is all about him, right? He doesn't care about anyone unless they are helping him get to the White House. He thinks that he should just be anointed the presidency because he was the vice president. No, it's not going to work that way. It's not going to work that way. And if you actually want to win this primary, you have to prove to us that you're capable of speaking to the issues that affect us and also that you can take on Donald Trump. But imagine, I mean, Joe Biden melted down when somebody at one of his town halls asked him about Hunter Biden.  And we're already seeing that he can't stand up to even the slightest, most polite amount of criticism. So in the event Donald Trump actually brings up Hunter Biden or criticizes him, how is Joe Biden going to respond? He's going to melt down and lose it. So all of this talk of electability and him making this electability argument, I mean, he's undercutting it. He doesn't realize what he's doing because he's communicating to voters that he's not the right person to take on Donald Trump. Somebody who is going to go up against Donald Trump has got to demonstrate that they have thick skin, right? They've got to demonstrate that they don't care about these attacks. They're just going to let them roll off of their shoulders. But Joe Biden can't handle it, even from people who are political allies, technically, that guy's voting for Tom Steyer, which he should vote for Bernie if he truly cares about climate change. But nonetheless, I mean, Joe Biden should see a Democratic Party primary voter as an ally, but he doesn't. He melts down.  He told an immigration activist, go vote for Donald Trump. It doesn't say much for his electability argument, because Hillary Clinton, one thing about her, even though she had a lot of issues, she did allow attacks to basically just roll off of her shoulders. And Joe Biden is incapable of doing that because like Donald Trump, he is a man child. So it's just embarrassing this and the fact that he's dodging questions from reporters now, he hasn't taken their questions in a while. The fact that a CBS reporter was ambushed by him was just, this is weird.  So I hope that voters are watching and I hope that Biden supporters acknowledge that if they truly are committed to choosing someone who can defeat Donald Trump, Joe Biden isn't that person.  Zero times. It's because Bernie Sanders acts like an adult and he can take criticism. He's been taking criticism all throughout these years. So Joe Biden, once again, proving why he should not be the Democratic Party nominee because he is a huge liability going up against Donald Trump in a general.


we go to public comment, just to get used to this year, we're going to go ahead and read how public comment may be made. It may be made live during the meeting via Zoom or submitted by 5 p.m. as of Tuesday, November 15th, before the CAB meeting via an email to the community engagement at srcity.org and via a recorded voice message at<PHONE_NUMBER>. Recorded voice message comments will be played if there's any this evening for up to three minutes each and at the time that agenda item is discussed during the CAB meeting, email public comments will be provided to all CAB members prior to the meeting and as I saw we had none of those provided to us so we won't be having any email comments at this time. The public comment agenda item at this time is for matters that are not listed on the agenda but which are within the subject matter of the jurisdiction. The public may comment on the agenda items when the item is called later on in the meeting. So are there any public comments at this time? There are no hands raised for public comment and no public comment in the room. Thank you. Item number three is approval of the minutes. Everyone was sent your minutes from the September 28th regular meeting. They were attached and embedded in your agenda as well as those of us that are here in the room were provided lovely printed copy. Thank you so much of those minutes. At this time, is there any of our community board members who have a comment, an edit or an adjustment that needs to be made to these minutes? Thank you for whoever wrote them. Thank you, Member Harrell. And do we have a motion on the floor to approve the minutes? So moved. I second. Second. That would be Vice Chair Weeks made the motion and Member Barnett seconded and a roll call vote. Danny, if you'd like. Yes, I'll begin again with Member Weissman. President, we're voting on the minutes. Sorry. Yeah. I wasn't here last week. So I, or last month. So I abstain, correct? Yes. This was the, I'm just for clarification. This was the September minutes. None of us were here in October. So okay. Approve. I think you weren't here in September as well. She wasn't here in September. Okay. All right. Abstain then. Sorry. Member Steffi. Approve. Member Rodriguez. Approve. Member Rom. Approve. Member Lynch. Approve. Member Innocentio. Approve. Member Harrell. Approve. Member Barnett. Approve. Member Weiss. Chair Weeks. Approve. And Member Chair Graves. Abstain. Okay. Let the record show that all their attendant approvings that Weissman abstained last week. Thank you. Procedurally, I did forget about public comment, but did we have any public available at that time? There are no hands raised for public comment and no public comment in the room. I will be better at that. Thanks. At this time, we'll move on to agenda number four, and that is our cab announcements. I'm going to ask that we do our cab announcements with those that are meeting with us virtually around first before we go to those that are in person. So member Steffi, do you have any announcements for us? I do just a couple of quick ones. Since we haven't met in a couple months, I was really excited or happy. Glad I could attend the Tubbs Fire anniversary at Coffee Park on the 8th of October. It was just great to go to Coffee Park. I hadn't been there since the fire and met and talked to a lot of people, and it was just really heartwarming to see the resiliency there. So that was great. And also one thing most of you might not know, but at the October City Council meeting, something I've been working on for about six months got approved, and that was changing the animal code. So now an animal can be impounded pending a hearing if they maul or kill another animal, and it used to be they had to maul or kill a human. So it's one step forward, I think, in keeping our citizens safe. And I work closely with Adam Mabel. He's one of our Assistant City attorneys, and he was just awesome to work with. So I was really proud that was able to happen. And also I'm one of the people that hit the campaign trail for the election we just had a week or so ago. And I saw a lot of other people out volunteering and helping out. And so that was just great to see. And I was glad to see so many people getting engaged in local politics. So that's it for me. Thanks. Thank you, Member Steffi. And I'll move over to Member Wiseman. Just a couple of community events coming up. One, my children's school is involved with. It's a French Christmas Market. And it's in Courthouse Square on Saturday, December 17th. I can email the information around starting from 11 a.m. until 6 p.m., I believe. And so that's a great community event coming up. And then another one coming up. That's also a really fun one is the Arts District on A Street is having their annual winter blast on Saturday, December 10th from 4 p.m. to 8.30 p.m. So two events coming up that I plan to attend. Thank you, Member Wiseman. And we'll see you at those. And Member Harrell. Yes. I wasn't going to come in person, but because one of our, we have a band actually. I know it's hard if you believe that grandmothers have a band, but there's a quartet here. Most of them have been doing music for most of their lives. Our name is Calmore Joy. And we have, one of the singers has a sore throat and is recovering, but we cannot afford for the other two singers not to be full on in case we have to take up her capacity. So I was afraid to expose myself anywhere until Saturday night. If I can't sing after Saturday night, it's okay. So anyway, there's a concert Saturday night. And what's great about it is here in Oakmont, there are 210 people signed up to come. So this is the first really big full on post COVID concert. I think that has been so well signed up for and attended. So we're kind of feeling like we have our freedom back, but we're still trying to be cautious since everybody here is a senior citizen. I also wanted to say that we, the board, I'm on the Oakmont board and we're working on making progress on getting an EVA emergency evacuation road between Oakmont and El Noco, which is a new development project that's coming up to be built. And the EIR, the emergency, you know, whatever that report stands for, I forget. But the EIR contains, will contain a second road for us to get out because Oakmont and Wildo 5,000 people can only get out to Highway 12 in an evacuation. That is a lot of people trying to get out of two exits to the same road. So this would be through El Noco and to Malita, Montgomery, which can be another direction to leave if we have to. So that's, that's pretty exciting. And I'm really thrilled that measure H, I think it was H that passed that has the sales tax to support the police and fire. I think that that passed, which I'm very excited about in the voting that happened that Beth helped so much with. So that's, that's all my report. Thank you, Member Harrell. And I think we'll, we will say that it is doing well, but we will say that it has passed when we get verification of those voter results.  Hi, good evening. Yeah, definitely. I hope nursing, my little cold. But I want to acknowledge everyone's work during the campaign season. And I want to acknowledge the city water department. They did a great job with outreach as they're updating their water plan. So I encourage you to sort of share that as they look ahead to planning future water resources and then just acknowledging if any of you have been following our mayor's work over at COP 27 and their climate resiliency message in Egypt. I think it speaks highly to all the initiatives. Rosa and the county put forward though. I'm glad to see us carrying that message far and wide everyone. So thank you. Thank you. Thanks for your work with the water department. I see you out there. So I just want to acknowledge that Member Inocencio. Hi, no update from me this meeting. Thank you. And Member Barnett. No announcements. Thank you. And Member Lange. So a quick update. Since we last met, we had a NAACP branch Halloween party at Fire Station 10, which was the cutest, funnest event for a lot of little children to get to see what it's like to be at the fire station. And there was two emergencies. So they got to watch the trucks leave and what it means when they come back and hook in. So it's really fun. And I think probably the first for a lot of the young kids of color to like be at a fire station and understand what it could mean to pursue that as a career, especially for a lot of young girls that came. And then two announcements that I think have circulated, but want to emphasize two programs have launched with ARPA dollars, which is a financial assistance program in partnership with Sonoma County Black Forum. So if you're experiencing any type of rental shortages, it's up to $1,200. And any gaps in whatever your everyday needs may be, whether it's gas or textbooks for students that have been applying that's up to $800. And then we also launched a therapy fund, which is 12 vouchers of up to $150. So essentially, if you go once a month, that's a year's worth of therapy, twice a month, a six month period. Everyone that participates, of course, we are looking to gather data and insight to ensure we can fund the program beyond the ARPA dollars. Each program would serve about 280 people. And so for the therapy fund, for those who know we don't have a ton of mental health professionals of color locally, we outsource a network of 40 therapists between San Francisco, Buran and Oakland who are willing to provide telehealth. And so if you do not have access to the internet or any type of device, we're also partnering with Random Acts of Kindness and the libraries to set up office hours time, especially with our office at the Presbyterian Church to ensure that folks can make their appointments on time. That is just beyond awesome, especially at this time of the years. So needed. Thank you. Member Wong. The only thing I have is we had our first Hopper Corridor meeting last Wednesday. It was the first of three meetings for the vision of Hopper Corridor after the fire. And then also working to get more insight on the road improvements, which is Coffee Park, Hong Grove and other other areas in the city is about 33 miles worth of road repairs that need to take place and they're waiting for funding. And it's coming, but just trying to keep on top of that just because of the recovery efforts from the fire. That's all I have. Thanks for staying on top of it. And Vice Chair Weeks. So a few things actually. First, one of the things that I put on next door was, as I'm sure many of you are aware, we're actually switching away from Nixle and I make sure to post that on next door and it's actually gotten quite a bit of traction, surprisingly. So we're switching over to Civic Ready. A lot of people are surprised by that because Nixle is kind of a commonplace app, but apparently Civic Ready is going to be a better option for us. So I encourage everyone to sign up on the Santa Rosa City website. And the other thing actually I mentioned, I've been attending a picture really fun events. Dia de la Sien was a really great event who said by Lo Sien, which is fantastically, you know, that's the organization very well attended, incredibly well attended. It was really great connecting with a lot of different folks. And then I attended the APIC potluck recently. And that was also really well attended. And it was great hearing, you know, from a lot of folks in the Asian community about the various things that they're concerned about.  And so it was really great connecting with folks. And I would just encourage everyone to make sure you attend the turkey truck coming up on Thursday. It's great. It's a lot of fun. Great event. So SantaRosaTurkeyTruck.com. Thank you, Member Weeks. I want to elevate not only the turkey truck, which I will be at as your announcer on Thursday morning. So I hope all of you will partake even in walking or whatnot. But more importantly than walking or running is really supporting the Redwood Empire Food Bank at this time of the year. There are very many people within our community and outside of our community that come to the Redwood Food Bank and the satellite branches and food centers that are fueling the pinch at this time of year. And I want to encourage people to reach out if you are, don't do without to actually go to one of these food distribution centers and those of us that can to donate just a little bit more because they are feeling quite put upon right now. And also want to thank everybody for participating in whichever way you could, whether it was getting out and campaigning or simply voting. Great turnout. It looks like about 70% of our community did get out the vote. So really feeling great about that and looking forward to more engagement in that way. It would be remiss of me not to say that we just held the Herne Community Hub project last meeting of this phase was right before our community advisory board. And the next phase we'll take it to a city council for a presentation which will happen in late January. So be on the lookout for that and please be sure to still continue to encourage engagement and participation because this is not the only phase where people can provide input and feedback for the community hub. And again, that is just a working name as I've recognized this evening that there's many other names that could be considered. So I'm really looking forward to that project and I love seeing so many of the community coming out to some of these meetings. So with that, I'll ask if there is any public comment. There are no hands raised for public comment and no public comment in the room. Great. Thank you. And I think that'll close out our cab announcements and we're moving on to staff updates. Magali, is this yours? Yes, thank you. Oh, where's Brian? My mic is like so loud. Okay, so first update, as you all probably know by now, we have a new community engagement coordinator who is Danny Chaparro. We are super excited that we stole him from another great team, the Wilds Prevention Partnership. And that means that we're going to hopefully soon be hiring another community outreach specialist for the Office of Community Engagement. It will be a limited term position. So we're maybe looking at a 16 to 20 month position. And in addition, we have in queue some internship opportunities for a number of departments at the city. So these will be paid internships. And we hope to have more information soon about that. So we want to help encourage young folks to get involved in that. And lastly, I just wanted to do a recap of the gun buyback program, which was, in my opinion, wildly successful. We raised $76,000 and all community funds. So again, none of the funds were city funding. This was all donations. We're very fortunate to have Congressman Mike Thompson was one of our first supporters and donors, Senator Mike Maguire as well. I really want to thank a very special community member Ken Cooker, who was really the catalyst and just the best cheerleader for this. And then Chief Cregan and Lieutenant Tommy Isaacson were really incredible the day of helping to coordinate this event. All in all, we collected 409 handguns, shotguns and rifles. So 158 were pistols, 265 of them were like what we call long guns. There was eight ghost guns, six assault rifles. And we actually ended up having to turn people away because we'd run out of funding. But even after we ran out of funding, we still collected 47 guns after that. So and then there was a few people who still were like, I just want to get this out of my house. Some of the comments that were made were that people just felt better getting them just again out of their home. Some people said this funding is going to help me pay for gas or pay for other really important sort of like costs. So it was very successful and I appreciate the community for helping us promote it and also for attending. We are hoping to host another one next year. Our goal is to raise somewhere we're in the vicinity of $100,000 because that will I think $100,000 will sustain us for about three hours. So that is the end of my report. Thank you, Magali. And at this time, are there any questions from Magali on her report from CAD members and Vice Chair Weeks? Just a quick question because I know I saw this circulating on a number of forums and I haven't had a chance to actually run this past Chief Cregan until now, but in terms of how the guns are processed, is there like an administrative fund that's dedicated to processing the guns? And is that just part of their annual budget? I'm just curious because I know a lot of people are wondering about that. That is a really great question. I don't know if you have the answer or not. Yeah, unfortunately I don't, but I can definitely find out. So you're interested in knowing what is the processing cost? Just how they process them, what's the cost? Is there a dedicated staff member or a dedicated budget towards this? I'm sure there is. I just, again, I remember seeing a lot of that circulating as soon as the article went up. I believe there's actually quite a few comments in the actual article itself. I just want to say I'm incredibly supportive and we were talking about random. I'm very pleased with the outcome. But it's always good to have all that information available. So if people are upset for some reason, we can quickly share that. And Member Lange? I don't have a question, but if you are not already partnered with Sonoma State's Community Engagement Office, they will funnel all internship opportunities to students directly for you and you don't have to do any extra labor. So you said their Community Engagement Office? It's a Center for Community Engagement. So you register to be a partner with them and then you just post on the portal like here's the internships we have and they do all the work for you. Awesome, thank you. Yeah, we'd love Sonoma State's students. I have a question. Thank you, Member Harrell. Yeah, I was going to ask about the internship and the city. Chiliman, are you looking for college kids or what's that any good information on that? Thank you for that question. And the city policy has been to hire college students who are enrolled in the major that is correlated to the office. However, I am hoping to work with our HR department to open that to high school students because I think that's a really crucial place to start and peak an interest. So hopefully there'll be more to come. So we have PG&E funds for this. So we're going to go through the first session of this and the hope is in January we would be interviewing youth or young people I should say. And then there will be another session of the same funding. So we have funding for two terms. Yeah, to Brian Lee, sorry. That's great. Thank you. Thank you for the question. Member Harrell, if you can mute when you're not directly speaking, we still we get a little bit of a feedback. It is going to be a little bit of adjustment as we as we continue on here. But if there's no other questions, I do want to ask for the buyback, do we have any relevant data? Was there any other buyback that's ever happened? Was this the first one? There is. I spoke to former council member and I told you about this. And he said they did one back in the 90s. However, since that was not in the 2000s, I feel like there's like an instant refresh. So but yeah, there was one there. And I could say that in comparison to all the ones that have happened in the area, we've raised the largest amount of money. I mean, more than Sacramento, more than Petaluma. So I just really grateful to our funders. That's great. And also, in relation to the question around the processing and the dedication of funds and whatnot, just to be clear with the public, if you were if you had a gun or any type of device at home that you wanted to dispose of at this time, when there isn't a buyback program happening, you can go to the police station. So without the answer to that question as to how it's processed, or if there is knowledge around that, we do know that you can contact the police station and let them know and then coordinate with them how to return a weapon. Yeah. And one thank you for mentioning that because some people did want to submit ammunition. And that's actually costly for us to dispose of that. However, if you go to any of your local police stations, you can surrender it and they'll do their thing. But for the purposes of this event, we did not take ammunition. Great. And thank you. And just a tidbit of knowledge here, but that's also true with medication. So if you have old medicine at home, and this is the time of the year where sometimes people clean out their medicine cabinet and whatnot before the first of the year, you can actually go to your local police station. And there is a disposal area there. So, you know, it's a nice thing to know about. So thank you so much for your report and that information. And thank you so much for doing the gun buyback event. At this time, is there any public comment? There are no hands raised for public comment. No public comment in the room. All right. I think that closes out item number five and staff updates. We're moving on to item number six with our scheduled items. At this time, this is the 2022 Q3 community improvement grant application selections. This is a holdover from last meeting. Our last meeting was canceled due to a lack of quorum. And this evening, we're bringing forth our missed agenda items from October to now. And I want to remind everybody who may be listening in that this is our only meeting, our last meeting for 2022. So at this time, we have a presentation. And is that Magali? Yes. Thank you. Can we move to the next slide, please? So, yes, thank you. We're going to just go very quickly into some of the, as Chair mentioned, some of the items that we were going to discuss in the last meeting. And as you all know, the goal of this program is to support community building, improve neighborhoods, strain city relationships, and the amounts are all the way up to $2,500. So we're going to go to the next slide, please. Here are the applications that were sent over. So the projects are the 2023 South Park Day and Night Festival for the amount asked is $25. The Historic Railroad Association 2022 Holiday Carriage Rights Project. I do apologize, I think I need glasses. And the resource teams resilience workshops, resourcing teams resiliency workshop project for $2,500. We do currently, if we go to the next slide, we could see that we do have a remaining budget of $14,614. So at this point, if the cap did decide, we would be able to cover the cost of these three requests. So were there any questions? I was going to ask a question about when does the the what was the one with the carriage, when the when does that start? When are they going to start those? Thank you. And for that one, the application was because it said during the holidays, I didn't know how far that went. We're looking it up now at this time. So I have the application here. Unfortunately, I don't think there's an exact deadline date, but I'm so in. So it starts after Thanksgiving, the carriage rides. This is number three in their write up under community support. Starting after Thanksgiving, the carriage rides are held each weekend from 11 to 3pm to add to the festivities, the association, the hires, local musicians and carrollers to perform each day. And it also partners with other nonprofits, chopped team club and the rescue mission for entertainment and or help and setting up and taking down it continues on from there. So that's cool. So this is just for note, this is all of this information was included with the October agenda. And now with this agenda, and this is part of their application is all of that information. Thank you. Are there any other member staff? Thank you. Sure. Thank you. Yeah, on that one, I had, I just had a couple of questions. I thought this is my memory from last year, but can cab grants fund city permits and city expenses? I thought there was a conflict there. Do you know if that's a conflict or not, Magali? Thank you, member Stephanie. I did print out your questions. So yeah, I believe we, the cab grant can be for the city permits. Okay. Great. Thank you. And also, we did fund this last year, I'm pretty sure. Is there any issue with funding it two years in a row or within a certain period of time? Or is that not an issue? So now, typically, historically, cab grants, and I believe this is part of the, the write up on the cab grants is that you can't apply. Once you gain a cab grant once, you can't apply during that 12 month period for a second one. But once that 12 month period is exhausted, you can apply again. So this would then satisfy that. Okay. Thank you. Magali, do you have any other questions there or? Yes, I do. Okay. Is it okay if I read? Sure. Go ahead. Thank you. Appreciate it. So for the, the, if it's okay to talk about the South Park Day and Night Festival to move on to that one, the question was about can cab grants fund another city service such as the park rental, which is, I think similar to the city permit. Yeah, it's pretty much the same question and that's been answered. So thank you. And in terms of the date, I can, yeah, I didn't, I read the proposal. I didn't see it. So the Day and Night Festival is typically in September of each year. And so this one is applying for next year in September. It's an annual event. It's been happening for, oh goodness, over a dozen years, I want to say. So. And the fact that it's in September, there's no problem with them spending the money in September, if we approve it now with these funds in this quarter. Correct. Great. It was a wise move to apply now. Right. Thank you. Thank you. And then the other question. Remember, Stephie had right there? Yeah, the last question is regarding the resourcing team resiliency program. Will this program start in November? And then is there any data that these workshops would be well attended? Which I think is a really great and valid question. When I read their packet, I, I saw that they were going to be doing some substantial outreach and partnership with the Boys and Girls Club. But outside of that, I mean, we can acquire. So that is why I was just, sorry. I was just thinking that the teens I know would not want to do that. That's just my personal experience with teens. So I was just curious that they'd done some research. I know they're having it at the Boys and Girls Club, but I believe they're trying to get teens to attend it who aren't necessarily members of those clubs. So that was my only concern. Are we really going to get kids to be there? Because that was again, in my experience, it might not be an easy sell. So I want to address that question. And I'm sorry, I didn't know your questions prior to the meeting. So I'm kind of going off the top of my head here a little bit, but I would say that this is a first time program. So they wouldn't have any historical data to give us as to how well it would be attended. And typically at a Boys and Girls Club, the teens that are attending are kind of the tween, the 12, 13 year old age group. So it, it would be a matter of more than likely they're, they already see that population there and that there's a need for programming. But that's something we need to ask them. Right, they're aiming seventh to seventh graders to 12th graders is their, that's their target. And I know it's the first time, but also I believe they're just using the Boys and Girls Club space. They're not necessarily going to have those kids participate. So I just wanted to do my due diligence and read it and then you know, give it some thoughtful analysis before we said, said yes. So that's, that is the extent of my questions. Thank you, Macaulay. Thanks for submitting questions. We appreciate that. Are there any questions here in person? And remember, Anosensio, thank you for that. Yeah, I have a question. I think I've asked it before, but is there when, when a cab grant applies for a park permit or any other permit of city property is, are we, do they pay for a rate or is there, are there discounted rates for cab projects or things like that, or for cab grants? I don't believe there's any discounts at the regular community rate. Okay, thank you. It seems like a large part of the expense, right, or large part of the grant. Yeah, I don't know if we want to get into a discussion about that at this time, that might be something to kind of research a little bit. I would imagine that, you know, permitting fees do have a purpose. And so, when those can't be decreased because you're applying for a grant. And in fact, if you get the grant, then it pays for the permit fees. To me, it makes logical sense down that one. Yeah, and I don't want to have a discussion, I agree. I just think you know, it's almost close to 50% of the grant, right? So it seems it would be nice if there could be some sort of discounted rate or something. But yeah, you're right, this isn't the place for the discussion. Just wanted to bring it up. Thank you. Thanks. We'll note that one down. So at this time, it's a matter of if there is a motion on the floor to approve all three or if there's anything to be separated out. Member Landry, you're going to have a motion. I can feel it. Go for it. So moves for all three. Second. And the second comes from Member Barnett. And that was a motion for all three to be approved. Are there any dissensions about that? Are there any need to pull any of the cab grant applications out? Seeing. Member Rom. I was just going to say that the carriage ride, it goes from 1126 to 1224. The carriage rides go from 1126 to 1224. 1224. So day after Thanksgiving to Christmas Eve. Thank you. So not seeing any need to pull out the motion stands, but we need to go to public comment first. There are no hands raised for public comment and no public comment in the room. Thank you. And we'll go to roll call vote, Danny. All right. Member Weisman. Approve all three. Member Steffi. Approve. Member Rodriguez. Approve. Member Ron. Approved. Member Lange. Approved. Member Anasensio. Approved. Member Arrow. Approved. Thank you. Member Barnett. Approved. Vice Chair Weeks. Approved. And Chair Graves. Approved. Let the record show that all members of attendance have approved the grants. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for all of the discussion and questions. And I just have a question for staff if we could, excuse me, if we could possibly get a list of all the grants that have been approved prior to our January meeting, because since we're not meeting again until January, excuse me, that little tickle is not going away. Our next meeting will be in January, which will be another approval of grants itself. And now we will have less than $7,000, I believe. So prior to approving these three, we had $14,614. So yeah, we'll have about $7,100. So it would just be good maybe to have a breakdown with that presentation that we'll have in January, but to have it a little bit sooner so that we're ready for that. And also want to put out there to the public and to all of us here, as I am struggling with that little post-nasal drip thing that's going on at this time of the year. So please get out the word as best you can that CAB grants applications are being accepted right now through, I believe, January, December 30. I think we put it a little bit into January. We'll look it up and we'll address that. We'll look it up on the computer now and find that out. You know, this is the time of the year where it could get missed by a lot of people in the community. And that $7,000, which means that we have, you know, two plus grants to get out, could be really beneficial going into next year. So I just want to bring that to everybody's attention. So it is December 30th, 4 p.m. So member Barnett, you are correct. So that is the deadline. So make note of that and please help to share that information out with community groups, neighbors, and friends as well. So that will conclude our item number 6.1, moving on to item number 6.2. It's the 2023 CAB events discussion and neighbor fest presentation. And for this, Magali, Daniel, you're up. Thank you. All right, everyone. So for the second time, I'm going to give you a rough overview of the neighborhood, a neighbor fest pilot program review. I think some of the people on this cab were actually part of that neighbor fest during that time. And so was I. I have the privilege of being one of the first ones on that. So next slide, please. So just to give you a quick background, after the 2017 wildfires, there was a big push for the community to have the city provide support and guidance on how to better prepare for future disasters and emergencies. Additionally, it became apparent that during the major disasters, such as the 2017 wildfires, that they're never going to be enough first responders to get everyone immediately. We saw and heard through anecdotal stories that residents who had already existing relationships with their neighbors prior to the disaster were more likely to help each other out during some of these disasters or during that disaster. The Office of Community Engagement was tasked with researching different models and programs regarding community resiliency. And during this research, the Office of Community Engagement was contacted by staff from the city and County of San Francisco's neighborhood empowerment network. A series of meetings and workshops facilitated by San Francisco staff were held in the city of Santa Rosa staff, the Community Advisory Board, community-based organizations, and Santa Rosa's residents to determine what model will work best for Santa Rosa. So what is NeighborFest? In a sense, NeighborFest is a locally organized gathering, also known as a block party that offers neighborhoods the chance to come together, have fun, and build a stronger, more connected community. That's what we emphasize, block party. That's really what got people going and wanting to participate in some of these NeighborFest. So why NeighborFest? Really, what I just mentioned about the block party, it's getting people together, feeling more connected with their neighbors, building a strong, resilient neighborhood, especially during and after the disaster. But NeighborFest aims to strengthen social decision or connectedness, resilience, and prepare neighborhoods for disaster, just mentioned. But this is what brings me to the pilot program overview. As you can see, city staff applied for several community grants in 2018, and were sub-sinc- sub-sinc-squencely funded community foundation of Sonoma County, healthcare foundation of Northern Sonoma County, United Way of the Wine Country. So total grants received were 30,000. Funds were used to provide mini-grants up to 2,500 to participate in neighborhoods. This was for translating materials to Spanish, purchase additional programs, supplies of materials for the events, such as pens and binders, etc. So these applications were sent to existing neighborhood groups and associations in the summer of 2018. A total of eight applications were received, and all eight neighborhoods were selected to participate. A selected neighborhood received the following mini-grant of 2,500, a NeighborFest toolkit, additional planning support and resources via NeighborFest staff, a city-organized disaster planning component at the event, and a map of the neighborhood upon completion of the event. Next slide brings me to what the map looked like, the ones that we'd bring to the NeighborFest. For the mapping activity, for the mapping activity, the NeighborFest staff and CAB members would facilitate the activity with participating neighbors. Neighbors would come to the table and staff and CAB would ask them to map out various disaster preparedness items on their neighborhood map, which included where would you go if you needed to gather in an open area? How would you get water or food? Is there a place to get mental assistance, etc. So that map generally was really bringing people together, kind of sharing information, sharing contact, sharing where they live. So neighbors really got a sense of each other. Brings me to the next one. So some of the rules and responsibilities that the neighborhoods had for the NeighborFest program were recruiting neighbors for planning committee, planning implementing NeighborFest, such as developing budgets, inviting at least three committee organizations to table-wide event, planning for food entertainment and other activities, implementing the event, and lastly participating in NeighborFest evaluation activities. Some of the city staff's roles were the coronation or bringing in the participation of, for instance, American Red Cross that provided individual and family disaster preparedness information and the CPR demonstration, also a healthcare foundation of Northern Sonoma County that provided mental health resources and information about psychological CPR, the Sonoma County Library that provided children's reading area and information about various programs and services and services their branches offered. These events occurred before the city developed evacuation zones, lookup tool and maps. The idea for future events was to incorporate this information along with the education, emergency alerts and notification. So a lot of planning coordination went into this. Next slide. When we talk about the program outcomes, this is some of the neighborhoods that I want to show you or that we want to show you that we worked with and we hosted the NeighborFest program. As you can see, there was a total of eight neighborhoods that participated in NeighborFest. One was unincorporated, I believe that one was the Moreland neighborhood. We were able to do this because our funding did not come from that city's budget. Events were held in June through August and a time of each event was set by each participating neighborhood. So if you can see by the dates, it was like roughly every two weeks, there was another NeighborFest going on. Next slide. So these are some of the final reports that were based off number of neighbors in attendance, number of new contacts made, number is involved in event planning, number of community organizations that participated at the event. So as you can see, each neighborhood had obviously a variety of attendance, but the numbers were high. You can go to the next one, it's because I want to show you some of the photos of what NeighborFest looked like and how it was organized. You can keep going. I was just going to kind of glance through all of them, but as you can see, these were some of the NeighborFest that we attended, that we hosted, or the neighborhoods that are hosted. And really the map was kind of the center of attention because that's what really brought everybody together. There are some city staff, but yeah, just to wrap it up. Initial analysis showed again that NeighborFest provides an opportunity for residents to socialize with one another and create relationships with new neighbors. So really NeighborFest produced a high level of participation, so people were more prepared for disaster planning. We can keep going. And we're just going to move on to the last part before that one. So some of the ideas that were left off from the cab when talking about NeighborFest was to move NeighborFest from disaster preparedness and focus it to a whole city focus. That included Mobile City Hall provides space for city departments with engagement needs. And then NeighborFest plus events were thinking about larger community wide events focused on a larger segment of the community, not just a single neighborhood or block, could host at a city park or neighborhood school. And then lastly noting that planning would fall on the cab to make these types of events happen as there would be no neighborhood group to facilitate this process. Which brings it to the last part of the question. Sorry that I went through that pretty fast, but just trying to get everybody out. I think a lot of us are familiar with the material to some extent is some a little bit deeper dives than others. So at this time, are there any questions? I'm going to go to those that are joining us remotely. I'm looking to you to have your hands raised if you may have any questions for Danny or staff. And I don't see any at this time. So I'll look to those that are in person if there's any questions. Remember Ron? Do we actually have funding for these for next year? Yeah. Yes, we do. We did set aside some funding for NeighborFest and in addition through the community empowerment plan, we did reserve $10,000 for that. Macaulay, did you just say $10,000? Yes. I don't remember $30,000. Maybe that's what was done previously, but for some reason I remember you saying $30,000 before. So we have $10,000 for 2023 dedicated to NeighborFest. I'm so sorry, this is my third community meeting of the day. I do want to get you that correct information. So if it's okay, we'll send that out this week that confirmed amount, but it could be that amount. Okay. Yeah. So we'll say $10,000 now, and then if we come back with a higher number, we'll celebrate, right? It'll be good. So and Vice Chair Weeks? Since this is going to be cab-led, I'm just wondering because I know previously we had essentially subcommittee groups, and I think I'm going to mention this previously where we broke out and discussed matters that were relevant to the work that we're doing. Do we want to do something like that to help with coordination or are we just going to kind of do this on an ad hoc basis like outside of like the public meeting? Like how are we going to actually collectively work on this? If I could just note that the NeighborFest would be one of the options because we did talk about that or three other options. So we don't necessarily have to do NeighborFest if that's not what the cab decides on. And I did I see it was either Member Lange or Member Barnett? Did you have your hand up, Barnett? Yeah, it wasn't the budget question. It was the department and resource question because that came out of 2019 events. Police fire were heavily pulled on with that whole project because we did eight. So I like the idea of abbreviating it, but before we go too far, do we have confirmation? I mean, I'm assuming they would be able to do one. I just remember from 2019 of like they got pulled in so many directions at a very short amount of time. And I don't want to do that again. I think they would really appreciate that. But I did check in with Chief Westrop and unfortunately, I don't think they would have the capacity to attend that many NeighborFest, which is kind of why wildfire ready may be a good option. Because on that day, they do deploy a lot of their resources. They all know about it. They prepare for it. And not only is it Santa Rosa Fire Department, but they bring in all the other fire partners to the county folks and just the various gamut of people who assist in fires. So we can explain to community, if you're in city limits, if you're outside of city limits, here are all the resources. So yeah. And I would think that it's not just fire at this point. It's I mean, all of the city staff, we're talking to still 120 staff down and open positions. So projecting into the future of being able to pull staff for these types of events on a every two week basis would be a big hurdle. Member, okay, so I'm seeing hands now. Thank you for raising hands and being patient with me until I look up. Member Rodriguez. Would it be worthwhile to have staff come back and make a recommendation? So that way we have a better idea of what resources are available based on their availability and budget? Well, we can state now that in terms of fire, they'd be able to do one event. And in addition with police being part of evacuations and they are part of this conversation, it would be sort of the same because sometimes they go into overtime costs. And member Harold. I'm trying to recall, but I'm wondering if we talked about in the last meeting that we had a couple months ago, is it possible to make neighbor fest and wildfire already kind of become one one project as opposed to I mean, I'm just it just seems like they're somewhat related. And where would the wildfire ready one be? Would that be in the center of town or? Yes, actually, it would be held at courthouse square. And we already have a really good idea of when we'd be able to hold it June 4th to Saturday. Okay. And so a neighbor fest is either any neighborhood living close to the courthouse square, which I think neighbor fest is also doing some safety measures in there in that event. And it seems like fun. It just seems like it might be more fun to come to something about wildfire that also has some neighborly stuff going on. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe I'm not articulating it very well, but make it more fun. So I think it'd be better to do one well. I think we'd better to do one well than to do two not so well. So at this point, wildfire ready is already on the books to happen on June 4th, is what I understand. Sorry, it's June 10th. Okay, June 10th. So that is a Saturday June 10th then. Correct. All right. And member Harrell has made the suggestion. I think that we've we've kind of talked around this a little bit before about trying to be inclusive of a type of a neighborhood resource fair neighborhood fest ask kind of an event with the wildfire ready. I'm going to throw it on its ear a little bit. Just throw out a wild and crazy idea. There are screens now that have been used in courthouse square that can actually you can watch the screen. It's an LED screen during the day. And I think between now and June 10th, we could as a cab and as the community engagement department actually put it out to our community in different neighborhoods to challenge them to have a community gathering within their neighborhood and maybe develop some materials that would get them to get to know each other to get to know their resources when that within the neighborhood. And then maybe we could have a roving camera recording of these different neighborhood mini fests that would be then shown on the screen in courthouse square and information for neighbors that would be coming down into courthouse square, but also to highlight neighbors that are out there, whether it is an aucoin or if it's over in coffee park or something like that, if they're doing their own events and showing them live on the screen or maybe even if they were the week before showing a videotape footage, does that make sense? What I'm saying here is that there's like a city-wide event, but it doesn't all we don't all have to be in the same place. We've learned that during COVID that we can actually be at different places and still commune with each other. So maybe taking advantage of a little bit of technology. I like that. It's a crazy idea, but there you go. That is a good idea. And now I'm kind of noodling over other things we can do, but if we were to do kind of a downtown centric one-off, is there a possibility of essentially allocating some of our bus services that we saw that red train bus thing? I don't even remember what it's called with my head. Rosie, thank you, the trolley. If we could launch that and have that in perhaps like the Roslyn neighborhood or some neighborhood that nearby they help essentially bring people to the downtown area. And the other question is, and I can't believe I never thought there'd be a day I'd be asking this, but if we were to deploy as much as we want to in the downtown area for this neighborhood, if we were to do one-off, do we have capacity for all the resources and everyone we want to have down there? It could be pretty big. Go ahead, Madeline. I was just going to recommend if you would like for me to pull up the site map from our 2022 event to show the number of vendors and resources that we had. Sure. Yes, thank you. So as Madeline finds that, I just want to note that we do have a great amount of capacity because when the Pride event was held, there were so many vendors and it was beautiful and there was music and food and community. And I was surprised how much actually fit in the square. So it was mildly chaotic, but yes, it was a lot of fun. It was amazing how many people were out there.  Yeah, at 16 nights of the Wednesday night market every year, since 2017, has been in Courthouse Square and there's plenty of room. And you can also then close down 4th Street if we need more room. So I don't think capacity is an issue. It's a matter of how to get people there when you're having a one and done type of an event. And Saturday afternoons are hard. One of the joys of the Wednesday night market is that it's dinner time and people come for entertainment and they come for dinner and they come to watch other people. But on a Saturday afternoon, when there's little league and soccer and everything else going on in your own neighborhood, it's a little bit harder. So in June 10th is after school as well. But I will say that time of year it because that volleyball ends the weekend before. So that's when people are like, if you tell them in January to save the day, they'll plan their vacation to leave Sunday or Monday. And I think if we all do our part to like help with the marketing, it could really be a big to do. Because I think that's the challenge that happened for the summers. There are a lot of people who like stumbled upon the square, but didn't know what was happening. So think if we each and then used our network to spread the word, that would help make it be like really well attended and tell those little leaks to like all the club residents, bring your people. And this would be the weekend after a pride weekend. So member Barnett. So the one caveat with all this is that neighbor fest was about interconnectivity within the neighborhood and specifically the mapping tool and the directory that the neighbors could create. So I like the idea of the open house while already on the square. However, that's not a member fest. And so one of the things we might contemplate is having the applications for a neighbor fest at that event. And the idea being that we're going to pilot to without all the resources that it's just about the mapping and the good connectedness. And that may be planned for either late summer 2022, 2023 to 2020 24, putting out the case cycle because we will not have CIG funding until the fiscal year. And we're probably so that, you know, I'm saying like timing was that we're kind of talking about two different things because neighbor fest specifically was about getting the neighbors to resource map and to network. And it has specifically to do with if there was a disaster, who in your neighborhood needs help getting out. And that was the goal. The goal was to find those folks that needed help to get them out because we have we don't have enough resources in our city in a disaster response. And that meant when the fires happened, people were left behind. And that was the goal. The goal was if you know who has needs who's in a wheelchair, who doesn't drive, who won't leave without their pets. That was the goal of neighbor fest was to create those social cohesion bonds so that no one was left behind. The flip side of that was the next major disaster could very well be an earthquake in which we're in a shelter in place position. And we need to have neighbors connecting to one other because roads may be buckled, gas lines may be severed, you may be without power for multiple days. And it was this idea that that social cohesion meant we're all in this together. We're going to get through the next five to seven days because we know each other. So that's the one caveat is that we can do the wildfire ready, but the neighbor fest was a very specific response. And I don't necessarily want to take the goal of that away. I like the idea of us having it as a wildfire emergency preparedness and potentially launching neighbor fest 2.0 in a smaller capacity than what we were looking at and using the wildfire ready as a tool and potentially going to the neighborhoods that were in it. So talking to Sherwood Forest, talking to the junior college, talking to West End, talking to the neighborhoods, you know, talking to Coffee Park and saying folks have done this work, see the value and potentially see if they would help for the folks that show up say, Hey, I'd like to do this. Well, this is how that would be another thing to look at. But that's my one piece of all this is that neighbor has had a very, very, very specific goal. And I think the value in that is something that I don't want to see lose if we pivot in this direction. All right. And some hands virtually member Rodriguez. I appreciate the staff. And again, this is an informational item. So I'm assuming we're not taking any action on it tonight while we're brainstorming ideas, but sort of building off the conversation. Using the wildfire fest, June 10 platform, and seeing this how it looks like there is so much space in Courthouse Square, what if we added seven additional tents with the mapping exercise, building in opportunities for people to then launch neighbor fest 2.0. It gives our members, our council members a place to station. It gives us a place to station and invite our neighbors and communities to meet us with these maps and to pencil things through and or set up other times to do it down the road with their smaller communities. But we can have sort of micro neighborhood fest tents amongst the larger event. For consideration, again, I would encourage staff to make a recommendation so we can take an action item in our next meeting. Thank you. Thanks, member Rodriguez and member Harold. Yeah, I like Andrea's idea because I mean, I understand that you they're separate, but they're really together also. I mean, they have this correlation of helping each other. And one of the things here at Oakland that we do, we have a fair, a Firewise Fair every year. And we've decided to expand into earthquake and fire. And we have also stations of Map Your Neighborhood. I don't know if you're familiar with that program, but it's pretty much what you're describing a neighbor fest of trying to get people to know if their neighbors who are in a wheelchair or do they have trouble getting out in an emergency notification systems. And do you know your neighbors?  So my street has twice that many homes. So we would have two different Map Your Neighborhoods. And we you have a meeting. And I like the idea of launching the seven tenths with certain neighborhoods, you know, saying this is this neighborhood, would you like to sign up? And then we could launch another level of neighborhood fest for specific areas. Because the emergency part is is still tied to wildfire and getting people out. And there is a connection. So that's just my comments. And Vice Chair Weeks. So I think both member Rodriguez and then member Barnett present really great points. But I will just say, is this one of those situations where we're trying to run people, we should start walking again. And I think as we all know, our neighborhood groups have largely disbanded. I know the junior college neighborhoods trying to get together. But I was supposed to get an email from them weeks ago and there's nothing has been forthcoming yet. I can't help but wonder if implementing member Rodriguez's idea is a really great start to essentially creating that foundation again that we lost in the COVID-19 pandemic and setting the stage for for an opportunity to then implement exactly what member Barnett was discussing, which was the neighborhood fest 1.0, which was a really great way to get to knowing your neighbors. And I would love to do that more. So I personally would propose moving forward with member Rodriguez's idea and then be having tents for all the neighborhood associations available.  So we could start identifying people who want to step up and be a leadership role in their community. And then, you know, try to just find ways to create as much inner, you know, connectedness as we can, while also supplying them with all the resources and then, you know, saying, Hey, so this is the starting point. If you'd like to get more involved, if you'd like to take this to the next level, let's start planning for 2024 and let's do something even bigger and better. And let's really, you know, start engaging all our various neighborhoods. So that's, that's what I think we should should consider. Okay, so these are all really great ideas moving into next year. I just also want to really acknowledge that we did have some things on our plate as far as what goals that we wanted to accomplish as well. And some of those were, you know, even helping neighbors, neighborhoods to form associations and the resources behind that. So maybe in January, kind of revisiting, you know, what are all of these options and where are we, where are we going from here? We have a lot of great ideas, but it's a matter of what can we actually functionally make happen. June seems like a really far, far away land, but it's not in the in the scheme of everything that's going to happen between now and then. So maybe some, some reality check come January meeting. I'm seeing some nods from Magali. Yeah, if I could just add that I do agree with member Rodriguez and member Harold in terms of and also what vice chair mentioned, because we do have this community outreach specialist and I don't want to put the cart before the horse because we haven't even gotten the person yet, but part of their project is going to be to start revisiting these neighborhood group gathering. In addition, we're going to be working with Latino service providers in having their youth assisting us with hosting town halls and districts. So I feel like there's a lot of movement and cohesion there to start building, but I agree. I think some of the neighborhood groups have not been as active and that needs to get underway first before we deploy resources and commit to being in neighborhoods in the way that neighborhood best two or 1.0 was and I would my recommendation would be to make a decision today for the what chair mentioned. It's November. We're not going to have a December meeting. And if we're going to go with wildfire ready, we need to start launching outreach in January because my hope is that cab is going to make it a Lollapalooza wildfire ready where there is member Harold's band singing or performing and other performances and really a community coming together, celebration resources offered. And as you all mentioned, having a tent for each district and starting, you know, looking at these resource and mapping tools for neighborhood. So starting in kind of, like you said, crawling first. I'm going to I saw a member Harold first and I'll go to member Lange. Yeah, I think everybody here is up for wildfire already. We're just thinking about how to make it as effective as possible to incorporate some of the other things to accomplish, including lifting a neighbor fest launch by the seven tents and a point person for people to connect with. And then we could also have a volunteer list of who wants to help put this on as they come. And so I think I don't I don't think anybody here would object to committing to wildfire wildfire ready. I guess we need to have a formal vote on that. But if we don't, please speak up. Hey, we'll we'll go we'll come back to the part about a vote member Lange. I support what was just recommended. I do agree that we don't we we know wildfire ready is important. And that's like a way to get all vested interests in the same place. But really, I appreciate number of our nets context around neighbor fest and why it's important. But I realized that like none of us have the capacity to make it happen the way it needs to. Hence, like our three meetings of study session on studying the neighborhoods. If there's a point person at the city that can own it, and then we support their work, I think would be a really good way to ensure it gets done, because then someone paid with full attention in time could do it. So I think it's a both and so if there's room for us to say like let's do wildfire ready, and then be prepared to support the relaunch of neighbor fest upon the hire of this person. It makes the most sense to me to do it in that way so that we don't jack it up. Thank you. And so coming back to action on your recommendation, are you looking for a vote from us? I would love a final decision today so we can launch into it in January with an action plan. Okay, so that sounds like the affirmative. But before we do that, Vice Chair Weeks. I just again, I want to go back to transportation. So I want to make sure we lock that down. That's really important to make sure we engage all the communities. So it's very important to me. I want to make sure we figure that out logistically. If there's some sort of funding needs to be around, just if you can come back with me on that, that'd be terrific. And then I'd like to just again, I think it might behoove us to potentially consider. We don't consider this now, obviously, and we can talk about this later, but and maybe offline subcommittee, just to bring all this together, because I don't think we're going to accomplish this in one meeting per month. And then I would like to also, this is something we can do offline, but I think it'd be really great if you remember Harrow and some of our other local bands like Burnside, if they could come out, I'm sure they'd do it for Charity. So I think that'd be really terrific. People would love that. And it's more likely to drive, you know, more folks into the downtown area. And then, yeah, I think it'd be a really great opportunity. I think this was mentioned earlier for a council meet and greet. We have a bunch of new faces on our council. I think it's a terrific opportunity for them to get out there to have their own little booths and for people to come up, interact with them, get to know them. So I'll leave it there. Thanks. Okay. Thank you for all of that. And with the transportation aspect of that, I just want to say that I don't think that it would be bad to ask for a free transit day on that day, rather than just Rosie the trolley, so that free transit is all throughout the whole entire city on wildfire ready day. And maybe that's also a way that the community could thank our transit drivers because they play the big role in the Tubbs Fire.  Vice Chair Weeks. Thank you. So sorry. Because this is going to be all encompassing, should we be calling it wildfire ready? Can we change the name rebranded to Santa Rosa ready or community ready? Or, you know, because it isn't just about wildfires necessarily.  Are you guys messing with me? No, we really do have t-shirts. They're really our t-shirts. I have one of them. It's a branded thing. Yeah. So, okay. So at this time, do we have a motion on the floor to... I would move. Remember, there looked like there was a comment now. Remember, it was me. Hi. Member Steffi. I was going to say exactly what Vice Chair Weeks just said. I'm a marketing person. I've been 30 years. I'm not going to get my neighbors to get up and go to wildfire ready. So I think a name change or maybe an augment, augmentation of the name is something maybe some of us can work on between now and when all the, you know, marketing materials go out, if you will. So I'm just agreeing with him. I had the idea first, actually, but you didn't see my hand raised. Thank you. All right. All of you are going to be hired for staff pretty soon. That way we'll, because you're moving on into the staff arena at this point. But do we need a motion on the floor for the search? Is this a friendly approval? I will move that we accept wildfire ready. Member Harrell, just a moment. I'm asking staff. Thank you. Oh, sorry. I believe we can take a motion to make it official. Okay. So we're, so I'm moving for an approval of fire, wildfire ready to be an action item on the January agenda. I saw a second. I said, you're second. And could we have any public comment? There are no hands raised with public comment. No public comment in the room. Thank you. And Danny, can you do a roll call vote? Yes. All right. Member Wiseman? Approved. Member Staffie? Approved. Member Rodriguez? I'm, I'm sorry. I'm unclear on what the motion is. Is it just to come back with a plan or is it like we're all in on this? So we're all in and there will be an action item in January to start the planning project of wildfire ready. You're voting on a half baked potato. I know. It's a little convoluted in the, in the world of, of meetings, but this allows it to be an item in January that will then be something that the cab will work on from January through June. And that way, Magali can bring back items for us to approve. Okay. I understand it's, it's a hard one to wrap our brains around right now that it wasn't necessarily put on here as an approval item. So this is more of a friendly approval, but this is what staff is asking of us. Okay. Because I'm not, I mean it wasn't an approval item, so I don't want to vote on something that wasn't, you know, necessarily laid out to be approved on. I'm all for supporting staff to come back with a plan in January. So there's my half baked yes. All right. Thank you. And Danny continue. Member Ron? Approved. Member Lange? Approved. Member Anderson too? Approved. Member Harrell? Approved. Member Barnett? Approved. Vice Chair Weeks? Santa Rosa ready? Approved. Chair Gray? Approved. All right. Let the right where we know that all members of attendance have approved to make a wildfire official action item for January. Thank you. And thanks for bearing with us on that. It was a long road to get there, so I appreciate that. That ends and concludes item 6.2. We'll go to item 6.3. Issues of concern to city residents. Virtual members, if you have any issues of concerns. I'm looking for your hand to be raised. I'll take that as a no. We'll move to the members in person and Vice Chair Weeks. I have been noticing an alarmingly high rate of people who are not paying much attention to people crossing the crosswalk. And I have been almost hit several times in just the past couple months. What I do think and I've noticed is very effective and I would definitely like the city to invest more heavily in are the crosswalks that have those blinking signs. People I've noticed are far more likely to stop when you click that button than if you're just crossing the street. They do not care. So just something worth, you know, newling on and maybe potentially bringing something together at some point or talking with city staff about. Thank you guys, Chair. I don't see any other issues of concern. Yeah, just tell us comments reminding me that the crosswalk on Corby Avenue specifically over Colleen Creek. If there's no there's no crosswalk or ridge over it. So you have to walk directly into the street. And I've heard a couple neighbors complain that sometimes cars, especially late at night, you're driving there. There's no crosswalk, no sidewalk. So you just have to kind of make yourself narrow and walk against it. So on that, I just want to echo Cal's thoughts about how the importance of crosswalks, especially along Corby Avenue. I want to thank you for that input. And I also want to remind all of our CAB members and this information is also for the public that there is the My Santa Rosa app and the site on the city of Santa Rosa website that you can be every day of the week. Every hour of the day you can be making a suggestion or input to the city about these kinds of issues. Please, if you're out there listening to us, don't wait until a CAB meeting and a very risky and dangerous situation in order to bring it up to city staff. Thank you. And at this time, is there any public comment? There are no hands raised for public comment. No public comment in the room. All right. Thank you. And this concludes item number 6.3. Moving on to item number seven, this future agenda items. And there's quite a few on here. Most of them are to be determined. Implement strategic planning is ongoing. So that's something that I brought up earlier. And I think that has updates. What's that? I actually have some updates. Okay. Thank you. Thank you everybody for the request. And we are going to be scheduling for the January meeting the public transit presentation. So thank you, Member Lange. So we're, I relayed the conversation to our transportation folks. And they're going to come and give a presentation on the items that were noted last meeting. And February, the February meeting we're going to have in response presentation. They have gathered a lot of great new data on the work that they're doing. And in addition, I'd like to plug our January 19th in response event, community event. We will be bringing that to CAB as well. However, I think we have the event before the CAB meeting. So yes, January 19th at LCL in high school from 6 to 8 p.m. There will be an opportunity for the community to come and meet and talk to in response and get to check out the van and all that good stuff. And then March meeting, we have scheduled the Santa Rosa general plan update. So the general plan folks will come and give us a rundown of what's happened thus far. And in terms of the my Santa Rosa app presentation, I believe they are adding some modalities to that. So I want to make sure we come back when all of that is set in stone. All right. Thank you. Other information out there, the implement strategic plan that's of the CAB itself. And it would be good, I think, to have that on the agenda every single meeting. Because at this point, like tonight, we didn't really attend to that. And I think that really needs to be attended each and every time. Out there, Santa Rosa initiative, as you mentioned my Santa Rosa app, and the city manager meet and greet. Seems like some of these just keeps getting pushed back. But it looks like January, March, and February are going to be already falls. Are there any other requests of the agenda this time from CAB members? And I'm going to go with member Innocentio, then member Lange, and then Vice Chair Weeks. Yeah, so my my question is around when will we have the kind of our yearly meeting for the capital improvement? Or meeting with the I think the Public Works Department? I forget it's terminology, but have we had that this year? And when is scheduled for in this coming year? Thank you for that question. I believe we had a citizen city manager that come and speak to us last year. I can't remember exactly what month it was. But I'm happy to add that to the list and make sure that's scheduled. Thank you. That was it for me. Thank you. Thank you, member Innocentio. And that was in 2021. And I think it's election year after the elections is when we do that. So it would be coming up. It's usually like an I want to say it's an in month, a March or a May. So that's a good memory. Member Lange, Vice Chair Weeks. Could you quickly refresh my memory on I think this would be brown. Is it possible for us to meet the city manager outside of this particular setting so we can just have a more casual conversation or do we have to be within, you know, this public forum for it, for it to take place with all of us present? That's a great question. We were able to hold a town hall for the city manager. I want to say last February, yeah, this February. Yeah. And we did request for another town hall maybe to hold in a different side of town. But if that's the cab's request, I can definitely look into that, either having her attend here or if the request is to do a more casual meet and greet outside of the cab, a meeting format. Yeah, I just feel like that'll be, I mean, it's just going to since I think accelerate our opportunity to engage with her.  And so I for one would be thrilled if we could arrange something for January and February.  I remember her. I agree with member weeks that it would really be good to meet the city manager and early in the year. And I wanted to ask it sounds like you said that January and February March is kind of packed. Well, you said March was Santa Rosa General Plan update. Would that be because the General Plan has already been accepted or is that still what they're considering in March? To be fully transparent, it's just kind of like they got the third choice of the of the dates available because I didn't want to crowd your meetings with presentations if we are going to be planning for this event in June. So I wanted to limit, but I mean, sure, I understand. I understand what what's happening in January, February. So January would be the public transit presentation. February is the in response presentation. Okay, thanks. Okay. So I think that pretty well covers it for now. Is there any public comment? There are no hands raised for public comment and no public comment in the room. Thank you. That concludes item number seven. At this time, we are just bunching right up against the adjournment before that happens. I just want to say that it's been a pleasure to serve with all of you during this year, this calendar year. This is our last meeting for 2023. We won't be coming all together again until 20. This is our last meeting for 2022. We won't be coming together again until 2023 in January. Magali and Madeline and Danny, thank you so much for all of your assistance all year long. I know that I have always had a lot of questions behind the scenes and a lot of prompts. So thank you for being good sports with me. And thank you for serving all of us really well with all of the great information and energy that you bring to the cab. I want to wish everybody great holidays and a prosperous new year as we come into it. And remember, once again, please make donations where you can to those that are more in need like with the Redwood Empire Food Bank. It is one of one of my heartfelt pleads of the year. And I always try to do that personally with folks. So thank you so much to everybody at this time. Do you have a motion for adjournment? Motion to adjourn. Thank you. Member Lambs, thank you. And Vice Chair Weeks on the second. And I believe everybody would be in an agreement. Have a great evening everyone. Be safe out there.