Nick, can I say what's wrong or wrong? Christian. Feminist? Black women, Christian, feminist. Somebody lying to me. Black women, Christian, feminist. Mm. What is that, Kevin? I don't know. What is a black Christian feminist? Moderators. Somebody in the moderator, get the definition of feminism and place it in the chat room. Moderators, definition of feminism in the chat room. Gender. Gender. Time to cook. You are going to be respectful tonight, though. I say that much. All right, welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome to one of the most requested shows I have ever done. So some ground rules. Tonight, you're going to be respectful because this is going to be a sensitive subject, ladies and gentlemen. So what we're not going to do is we're not going to antagonize each other, OK? Not going to do that. If you are not a Christian, that's cool. That's cool. If you think Christianity is for the birds, that's cool. Sit back, relax, enjoy, get some popcorn, but really don't need to hear from you in this regard because it's going to get deep, OK?  There will be a call in portion to the show. Yes, there will be a call in portion to the show.  We'll have our time to do all that. You'll, sure, knock yourself out. You'll have plenty of time to call in and say all that. Not really, but I want you to feel like you do. So yeah, where is that button at? As we get into this show, guys, I need you guys to remember something. We're trying to move the needle forward. And in order to do that, there's going to be some breakage. I will ask you guys a question. How many of you guys, how many men in here go to church? How many guys still attend church? You mean if you attend church, put a one in the chat room. I will say this, that I know for a fact that there are more men who have left the church than ever. The church today is almost void of male leadership and presence, which is really crazy, considering boy, there was men everywhere. And one of the major reasons you hear for why men have left the church is because it's become a place of just straight up rank feminism. So what guys are saying is like, man, it's feminist ideology. In conjunction with this prosperity preaching, there's just no consequence. When you could be a mother of a single mother of four kids by five different guys and sit front row center, things have changed. I'll just say that way. Things have really changed. Now, I'm not one of these people who thinks Christians should be snobs. But I mean, at some point, we've got to start having what are we doing here? What are we doing here? All right. One thing that I kind of started to notice is that when I was at church, I started to see more women. Generation X, I started to see more and more single people in church. I was over the singles ministry at three different churches. And one thing that I noticed is that I saw a lot of attractive, unmarried women at church. Women's ministry will be packed one day at Friendship West Baptist Church. Pastor Tony, I mean, not Tony Evans, I got the church wrong. Our pastor asked all the single men to stand up. And we had three services. He said all the single men stand up. And it was about 50 or 70 guys that stood up, right? And then he said, OK, now I want all the single women to stand up.  And I felt like a lion, like a piece of meat on the Serengeti. I was like, what is he doing that for? It was easily eight, 10 to one in that one service, right? And what I started to know, what I started to realize is I'm like, man, the single women outnumbered a single man in this church by a large margin. And what you're going to start to notice is the women of my mother's and my grandmother's generation, they moved a heck of a lot different than the women of this generation, just completely different, completely different. And even my grandmother, when she was in transitioning, she said, I feel sorry for you, baby.  And that's the truth. Anybody who's being honest will say that they have heard that the women today are not like the women of yesteryear.  But what you're going to hear is you're going to start hearing some similarities. You're going to start hearing some things that you typically, there's going to be hard to overlook. Now, we got 739 people in here. Let's get the likes up. I want you guys to, we're going to go back to a show that I did a while back. And I want you all to pay attention. Let's see if we can hear some similarities, OK? As far as what, what do you mean? You asked me, did it, am I saying you did the wrong thing by going to get your masters? I'm just going to say, if you know you want to be married, how much have you applied the same amount of energy and focus in getting a husband? Yes, I have. Yes, I have. I got my I got my master's and my bachelor's in my 20s. OK, but I said into finding a husband. Yes. OK. I find that one difficult to believe because. So let's go ahead and flesh this out some more. What city are you in? I'm in in Dallas. OK, you're in Dallas and I spent when I spent most of my adult career in Dallas. Black women, Christian feminists. I should have put a lot of this tends to happen in the south. Let me tell you what I do know about the women in Dallas, particularly the black women in Dallas.  They got a lot of you got a lot of sassy sisters who think a lot of themselves and that's cool. But getting a master's should not hurt you in education.  No. So what do you think the difference is if it's not the education? Now, did you say like other races? Did you say white women? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Other races, non black women. So non black women are not they get they can go to Harvard. So we can't go by the so we can't go by the statistics that says, you know, our chances are slim due to this reason and that reason. No, you want to go by that. But by the stats. Are you talking about men being in jail and all this other kind of stuff? Yeah, we shouldn't look at that. Well, if you want to look at that, then we're going to bring into the fact that I'm going to bring the American Institute, American Enterprise Institute study saying that 51% of black men are single with no children in the middle class and 60% of us are the middle class. It's not a lack of black men, man. You don't think so? No, I lived in Dallas. I was, hold on, hold on, hold on. I was a member of Friendship West Baptist Church. I was part of the singles ministry. I was part of the business. I know her past. Exactly. There's not a problem with the amount of men. When was the last time, have you ever been engaged? I have been engaged, yes. So why didn't you guys go through with the menage? That was early on. His job was going to go to another state and I wasn't kind of willing to do that. Okay. Why not? And again, that was in my 20s. I was 27. But, okay, okay, so hold on, hold on, man. Okay, hold on, we got something here.  You were 27, you were closer to 30. And you said a man proposed to you. Hold on, were you engaged or he just proposed to you? Pretty much just proposed. Okay, and you didn't want to be with him because he was moving and you didn't want to move. And it was other things as well. It was other things, just not bad. It was other things. Trust wasn't involved. Just a lot of other things as well. So it just wasn't that. All right, so from what I'm hearing, you want to be married. I want to be married. But you've had a man, but you've had no kids.  But you didn't marry him. He wasn't trustworthy. He wasn't trustworthy. So hold on, hold on. So when he proposed to you, or did he actually propose to you? We talked about marriage. Did he actually propose to you? He didn't get on one knee. Okay, so he didn't, okay. All right, this is the simple. So when he, I want you guys to notice a couple of things. One, a lot of these women, college educated, master's degrees, very well spoken, none of them curts, smile through them. They got that southern sugary thing. Well, notice how when I'm asking direct questions, the level of deflection, the Federation of Planets would love to equip their starships with these kinds of deflected shields. Deflectors like a mug. And I'm like, can you answer a straight question? He didn't get on one knee, but when you talked about marriage, and you decided you weren't going to marry him, was the relationship over that day? It was pretty much going downhill after that. I mean, we've all been in relationships that was not supposed to be. He was that person. And I've been in other relationships. Come on now. I've been in relationships and they wasn't the right word. Okay, I'm going to need everybody to go ahead and donate and help this stream out because you knew Good and Dog on Well, YouTube was going to comment this video hard. I'm already getting notifications of demonetization. And they ain't been going, I ain't even been going eight minutes yet. This video was hate speech, insensitivity. I'm like, so if you want the show to continue, you need to pay something for this one. I ain't doing this for my health. Based upon what, ma'am? Just the chemistry wasn't there. Maybe just in it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why do you get married? Why do you get married? Because you in love with that person? Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. What church did you say you went to? Oakley Bible Fellowship. Oakley Bible Ship, Tony Evans. There you go. I know. I know very well. Where does love come into the... I mean, I could. No, ma'am, no, ma'am. You called the show. You called the show.  No, I put it in your comments. I want to guide her. You're Christian, but not living like a Christian woman. But I put it in the comments. I want a God-fearing man, da, da, da, da, da. Just get your notepads and start taking bullet points. Start comparing and contrasting. These women don't know each other. And shout out to them. This is not an insult to these women. So I do not want to hear any insults levy towards any of these women.  I don't need to do that, because it ain't about them. I didn't see the comments, I didn't see the comments, but I'm here. Well, I didn't say that. I did say that. Okay, so he has to be God-fearing. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. God-fearing Christian. Did you notice how much they over-talk a man, no? He's a Christian woman. I know what I'm talking about. And you see, this is what tends to happen. When a lot of you black women get back in the corner, you want to over-talk a man. That's not gonna work. You said you had a man that you wanted to marry. But there was something wrong with him. Then you said that you've been in relationships with other men, but there's always something wrong with him. And there's been some stuff wrong with me as well. Yeah, and I tune into your show. I can tell. I tune into your show. I can tell. I can tell. And if you will listen, one of the major things that's wrong with what's right now is you are over-talking me. Why? It's called conversation. So just because they don't curse you out with words, she can curse me out many times. Over-talking is cursing at you. Talking loud is cursing at you.  Yeah, I grew up in the church. I was baptized at five, very well versed in what I'm about to go into. Conversing. Gentlemen, I need you to understand something. Ladies, I need you to understand something. This is not conversation. You don't over-talk. First off, you said you came to my show because you're looking for some answers or something like that. So why would you come to somebody looking for something and then talk over them? I thought we was conversing. I wasn't talking over you. That's why I can tell you one of the things wrong with so many generation X black women is you don't have a healthy interaction with black men. You talk over us. You're disrespectful.  And I've shown that I know what I'm talking about. Lived in Dallas, I didn't even told you your pastor. Trust me, I know plenty about Oakley Bible. Anyway, all these men, all of these men, they weren't all the problem. And then what it comes right down to tend to be many women in your age tend to focus so much on what they want. And when I asked you why it didn't work, you didn't tell me this guy was beating you. He was a drug addict. He was an adulterer. You just said the chemistry wasn't there. And what I mean, and I'm assuming you mean the physical chemistry. No, we just didn't get along. It just, we just didn't get along. So why were you dating somebody you didn't, so why were you even dating somebody you didn't get along with? Exactly. So that's what I'm saying. So during my dating, I learned. You learned. And unfortunately, during my times of dating, YouTube and getting advice from me and such as yourself, which I thought you would be somebody who I could listen to and kind of get some feedback. But it wasn't around being. So we kind of had to kind of go through those shorted waters on our own and try to get an understanding. But now with me being 40 in my 40s, it's like, I've learned a lot, but I'm still learning and I'm willing to open my ears to what, you know, me and my faculty.  You probably don't think it. So what do we learn? Not one curse word utter, but when direct questions were asked, deflection started. She, go back, this stream is entitled, Ladies, can you land a good man? Go back and watch that stream. And I even did a stream breakdown of this interview. It got to be comical. How she refused to answer direct questions. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. The fact, you know, Wonder Woman defector bracelets. All right. Again, sweet sounding, all so feminine and this and this. Also Christian, I want a God fearing man. A dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah. Then you go down in relationship history. All of them then had a good man sooner or later. I don't know, man, I'm just asking. I don't know, I want every letter. Prairie Vietnam University. Shout out to Prairie View, what do you call it? Panthers? Yes. Okay. Did you have to take out a suit and loans to go to school? I took out some, yes. All right. So you did that to get your degree in education. How much money invested into psychological counseling and mental health counseling? For myself? Yes. I've sought it. I haven't did it. I do realize that it's- Ma'am, the number zero. See, I need you to listen, ma'am. I need you to listen. I'll let you talk. So that's all I need from her. So that's all I need from her. Now, that was at one show. Last night, last night, I had two women on the show that I want to profile. One was the final woman on the channel. You remember the one that was, let's just hear a little bit of what she has to say. Let's hear a little bit about what she has to say. Guys, while I'm getting to it, are y'all liking the show so far? Are we getting into it? Dangerous things. Yeah, are we liking it so far? Again, if you don't understand where we're at, cool. Let's get into last night's show. But you have two children, boy. Let's hear what, what the hell? Last night's show. Let me take the case off of this. There are no, there's not gonna be any floodgates. Let's start back. Why is that? Or earning men. Why would a man who's making a half a million plus match your energy? And it wasn't until I matched the energy that they either understand me, communicate with me, or you shutting me out and really don't care about me. Let's get into the question. So, however you slice it, he moved for you. So, obviously he was, there it is. I mean. Right. A little bit of other kinds of stuff when budget starts. Some of this stuff, I'm outside of my depth. Read her. She seems like she was the type of individual that a lot of people didn't really give her a reality check when it was muted. If she was ugly, cause she have gotten where she was in life. Let's get on into it. I do have a question for you because I made a comment and the backlash that I got was kind of alarming. So I want to know your advice on them. All right. So, in my past, I have been an individual that has been married, had relationships, and they did not work out simply because I wasn't willing to work anything out after their behaviors influenced my decision. You know, at this time, I am much more mature, understand, I made decisions out of being an emotional wreck, and I really wasn't in the right mental space. So I call myself leveling up now. At this time, I do have suitors and individuals that tries to beat me, but I don't entertain them. My question is... Listen to how many times the word suitor and entertainers use in this one. Would be, should I date while leveling up or should I just wait till I get to the top and open my eyes a bit? When you say level up, what does that mean? Well, she's being more mature on the levels that I wasn't before. I realize I made a lot of mistakes because this is my maturity level. No, no, when you say you're leveling, you ask the question, should I date now while I'm leveling up or should I wait till I've completely leveled up and then open the floodgates? What is leveling up? Leveling up to me... Okay, so working at this point in my life, I am on a verge of getting approved to open up my insurance agency. I don't want to, and that to me is huge. That's me leveling up financially but also establishing myself. I feel at the moment, dating would be a distraction. Are you talking about, for like state farm farmers are all state, are we talking about what? Well, state farm. Okay, and state farm, are you captive? I would be captive, yeah. Yeah, I've had my seven, my six, my 63. So let me ask you, can white women do the same thing you're doing to still have a husband? Can they do it? I don't, well, I'll tell you what, I haven't seen many that doesn't have a husband. Yeah, I've seen plenty of white women who were married while they were leveling, after they leveled. The thing is, I tend to think that 41. Four years. And four years, I plan to be making about 450K. All right, and then you would want a man earning how much? I would like a man earning, if not, where I am, exceeding my income. How tall are you? I'm five, two. How much do you weigh? 130. Best size? Six. Okay, five, two, one, 36. And your previous relationships did not work because it was kind of vague, but you weren't willing to do what. I couldn't really understand. It was almost as though it seemed like you didn't have patience for people or you didn't want to do something. What was the reasoning? It didn't work. It's not necessarily didn't have patience. It's more so I will actually I will tell you what's bothering me and I will give you time to correct the situation. I will communicate, but once I see that you're not trying to either understand me, communicate with me, or you shutting me out and really don't care about me or what I'm saying, then therefore I just match your energy. And it wasn't until I matched the energy that they wanted to. Do you have any children? I have two. Okay, and on a scale of one to 10, what will most people say you look like? I would say a nine to 10. So you're telling me you're a woman who's either nine or 10 in the face, dress size six, and your goal is 450,000, so almost half a million in four years, which yes, in the chat room, you can do that with insurance. Definitely, especially if you're on an agency. Yeah, I know you can. I mean, I know you can, especially if you start selling financial products. Fair use, can't get strike. Somebody's on your show. She is part of my content. It's fair use. I'm using to make commentary on a subject matter of which I actually have plenty of documentation with participants on my show. This was actually acquired from a video clip of this person's channel. She's thought to be on my channel and would have been live last night. Anyway, I flashed that up just to show what nine 10 means to women. Versus me as a man, I'd say six, seven. Kind of right around there in that, you know, visa moment. She's definitely not unattractive by any stretch of the imagination. However, as that show went on, what I heard was some of the same things I heard from another woman, the previous woman. You know, my characteristics, my level, my this, my that, I'm this, I'm that. Somewhat of my standards, my suitors. I'm not entertaining this and that. And if you don't know how that ended last night, well, let's go ahead and listen to more. I'm just PNC. So I know, yeah, obviously I know. Okay, you want to fill that in for me? Were you married early? Well, after I had my first son, his father and I broke up like after he was six months. And I met my ex-husband six months after that. We were together for eight years. We were married. Five of those eight years got divorced and then hopped right back into a relationship and had another kid. And I realized- Okay, so let me ask you. Let me ask you the first child's father. Is he alive? He is. Second child's father alive? He is. Either of those men, high earners. They make under $100,000. Notice the level of deflection that happens when you ask these Christian women this stuff. Are they high earners? They make under $100,000. $20,000 is under $100,000, and so is $999,000. Kevin, why are you saying Christian woman? How do you know this woman is a Christian? That's not fair. Well, let's go. I would say not to my life. So they're not high earners. They're not high earners. Okay, so you had a child out of wedlock married and another child out of wedlock. I did. All right, and your ultimate question is all this leveling up, should you date while you're leveling up or should you wait till you get to the level and then open the floodgates? Right. There's not gonna be any floodgates. Now that was her word. Should she wait till she level up or should she date now and then wait till she's leveled up and opened the floodgates? As if she can choose because this woman kept on saying how she had all these suitors and all these men who wanted to marry her and all these men and $500,000 men and all this other stuff. Turns out that none of it was what she was talking about. Go watch the last 30 minutes.  I guarantee you. The ending is epic. Now what I found interesting is I wanted to play you guys something from, I need you guys to listen to something. Fair use. Fair use, fair use, fair use. What are we doing here? I don't want that to play this yet. You guys having a good time so far? Again, we're not dragging anybody. We're gonna be polite, okay? We polite, okay? Keep it polite. I don't need anybody to get rude. This is just for the conversation because I have a position. I think a lot of black women, a lot of black women Christians are feminists. Hey everyone, thank you so much for tuning in to Dany Luba and it is I, Dany. And as promised, I wanna come in for you guys to follow up on Fentages and her husband's video saying that women should submit to men. Of course, I disagree 100%. I believe that no man... Now her video was talking about how she was responding to Fentages' video. Remember this Fentages made that I was stirred with this submission video? And the woman that I had on my show last night who was talking about opening the floodgates openly said that she thinks Fentages was wrong about women submitting to men and marriage 100%. Cool. I want you guys to hear what she says because I don't wanna misrepresent it. So I need to play this in its entirety and it's about six minutes long. So just listen. Should rule over another man. Now, given we are born and raised and indoctrinated and institutionalized to this patriarchal society. Don't put her name in that chat room. We live in a society in which men rule everything. Men... Take her name out in chat room. And in this society... I want you to know how to put it in there. ...or type of social order, men also rule women. And I say indoctrinated because the majority of us are Christians or religious people.  So basically... Now remember all this craziness. All this craziness. Women are beneath the head. All this craziness. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're not a YouTuber. Two videos posted on YouTube. That's the YouTuber. That's what it is. I disagree because... But you're more than welcome to, when I have the call in portion, you're more than welcome because I want your words because you put it out there. It's public video, but I'm not playing the video. I'm just playing the words because I don't want it to be misinterpreted. But I think it's a good book in for the conversation that we had yesterday. You actually go watch that. Women and men together equals balance. I don't believe that a woman is equal to a man and I don't believe that a man is equal to a woman. I believe that they both have their place in each other's lives. I believe that the woman is like myself. I'm a woman. I am the manifestation and the flesh of the divine feminine aspect of God. And he, my man, or the man, it's the manifestation and the flesh of the divine masculine part of God, right? So there's a balance there. You can't have one without the other. And they both balance each other out. Wrong, man. You can't have one without the other. When Adam was created, he was created with woman and man together. See, a lot of these new wave Christian feminists, they want their convenient Christians. What you're going to notice is a lot of them will talk about God, Christianity, quote scripture, speak in these spiritual terms, but then turn around and lace it with feminist doctrine. We're equals, balance. And there's nothing in the Bible about equality or balance. You can't have one without the other. The Bible would disagree. Please show me where it says that what you're saying is true. But unfortunately, so many of our women in church have begun to blend Christianity with feminist doctrine to become feminist Christians. And I feel in that video, Fantasia's husband, and I don't know his name, but he says that basically because he prays to God and he seeks the face of God that qualifies them to have her cement to him. He didn't say that God says that. Check your eggs, check your Bible. Again, I get it. I get it 100%. I get that our Bibles tell us that the man is the head.  I get all of that. But at the same time, you have to understand, we are raised in a church. Raised in a patriarchal society. Yes, you're raising a patriarchal society. Yes, and let's go ahead and get into this. First off, notice how she keeps the passive aggressive sneak this way. She talks about submissive femininity. I get the little cliche that it's this and it just minimizing the divine feminine that you're supposed to be part of. But I want you guys to listen to what Edward Anderson, BGS, a lot of people start talking about the patriarchy and the patriarchal mindset. I need you guys to pay close attention to this part here. That's why I didn't want to use my words. I wanted her to say it in her own words. As a black woman, Christian, feminist. Meaning, the social order that's over our heads that governs us is one in which men over women children, animals, everything, men, men, men, they are the rulers of the social order. Now there's... True, men rule over the women, children that are rulers of the social order. What she fails to include is they also are the ones who create, build, protect and restore this thing. Women have never built an Amazon, an Amazonia. So this very patriarchy that so many of our black women throw their nose at, you're more than comfortable to sit nest in it and wave your finger at it. Also a matriarchal society or social order in which women are the head. And it's so funny and I run it because in every, I won't say every, but I would say maybe 90% of African-American families, we all go to big mama's house. Celebrate something or a woman. You go to big mama's house cause, why? Cause big daddy's dead. Why do black men die earlier than any other men? Ooh, but did big mama buy the house? Cause my grandmother, my grandfather bought the house. See, big mama had big daddy and big daddy bought the house. He just died 20 years before big mama. Like so many other black men who work themselves into death. So their wives could have it left, but all you see is big mama's house. Now big mama talked about big daddy all the time. That's why his big picture was sitting up there. That's why you couldn't sit in his chair even after he was dead. That's why you couldn't sit at the head of the table even after he had passed. It's the head of the household, beaming the whole family look towards that great grand woman, that matriarch of the family. I think. Lie.  You hear this twisting of history? That's why I wanted you guys to hear it from her words because now it makes sense all that stuff about on my level and this and that and that and that. Go back and listen to what she was saying. And it all starts to bleed. I was like, oh, God works in mysterious ways. That because we are indoctrinated and we are all conditioned in a way that we see men being powerful and being authority figures in our lives. I believe that also train our mind to think and feel like we need a man to rule over us, but we don't. I believe in. Catch that. We have been raised and indoctrinated and trained our minds to believe as though we need a man to rule over us, but we don't. Is that not feminism 101? Now, ma'am, you're raising two boys.  Could he even whoop those children he got to pay for? You said, no. When I asked, were those kids realized that the stepfather who has to pay for everything, like the baby daddies, he has to pay like he's a biological but he has no biological rights that child or those kids gonna be able to figure it out.  Men who look up to Big Mama. 100% acknowledging that in many areas the man can lead a woman and also acknowledging that the woman can lead a man. Working ladies, man, please in the chat room, list me five areas in which a woman can lead a man. Five areas, I mean, back there, five areas in which a woman can lead a man that actually make a difference to society. Leading him in certain areas is okay. Cause I can name you plenty of ways a man can lead a woman that make a difference to her and society. Just give me five. And by the way, name me five female inventors and I'll give you one. Madam Curie, give me four. Name me five great female inventors. Name me five great women throughout arts, science, history that has nothing to do with literature. Name me some great female scientists, thinkers, philosophers. Valentin, just because you are a man and that's your gender, that does not necessarily mean I should submit to you. And then the act of submission is to give in, to give up who you are to allow yourself to basically be led by someone else like you. The act of submission. I want you to say that again for you. Tomorrow's show is submission losing. I want you to hear it again.  And then the act of submission is to give in, to give up who you are to allow yourself to basically be led by someone else like you. Let that marinate. That's what submission is to her and far too many black Christian women. The act of submission, which is commanded in the Bible that you say you follow and the faith that you voluntarily believe in to give in, give up. It's losing. It's a lack of power. Edward, have a field day with it. Enjoy, Edward. Let Edward, Hurricane Edward, call in Hurricane Edward. You're on. I have no power of your own. That to me is his weakness. When a woman submits, she has no power of her own. That's just weakness. That's what you said, ma'am.  Submission is weakness. Acknowledging someone's leadership abilities in areas and allowing someone to lead, it's not the act of submission that's different. So I believe, again, that it's a bullet. I don't believe men should rule over women. Because basically that's what submission is. I don't believe that men should rule over anything. I would say anyone. No, men should not rule men, put it that way. I don't believe men should rule over women. I don't believe women should rule over men. I don't believe anybody should rule anybody.  We should have hands off. I would love, love to be able to give you the tri-quarter and go like that and snap you into a world to where it was anarchy like that. I would love for you to experience it for 30 days. To where there's nobody ruling over anybody. Everybody's just equals. Yeah. You got a piece of chicken? I want that chicken. You gonna take me out? What you gonna do? I want the chicken. You gonna call the police? Oh, no, nobody's ruling over anybody. Nobody's ruling over anybody. No, it's just we're back in the cave man days. That's what y'all want. That's how extreme it is for these black, female, Christian feminists. And I think men as a collective body of people then should not rule over men. And that's where we get this whole demand as the head, demand, demand, demand. Don't you hear a lot of K. Michelle in that? I think men are just bad people. That's why we get all this men as the head, demand, demand. No, ma'am, it's in your Bible. It's in your Bible. Say you want men to build the world and then you want them to give it over to you. Which is why so many of you are by yourself. And at the same time, we are fighting for women's rights. So you can't have it both ways. You have to understand the systems in which living, these social orders in which we live in, you have to break them down and decode them to understand why you take the way that you do. For me, I would love 100% to be led by a man. But I will also love for the man to be led by me in areas that I don't care about. The balance in that. When it is my time to lead is my time. When it's your time to lead is your time. When it's, and I say leave because that's just what it is, and I want to talk about this submission. What exactly are we doing here? All right, that's it. That's it. Lord and mercy, I couldn't have written a better prologue. So what I need you to hear is she at least had the guts at least to say it and didn't blink. Now all the stuff she was talking about, she wanted yesterday, but this is how she also feels about men. I love to be led by a man who leads the way I think he should lead, but you can't discipline my children, but you gotta take care, but you gotta pay for them. All right, before we get to the next part, I don't want anybody to be throwing that woman's name around. If I want her name out there, if she wants to self-identify, that's her business, but it is a public video. And the problem is these women, whether she's a self-professed Christian or not, she's talking about Christianity in the Bible. How often do you hear women talking about this equality? Didn't I have someone on the show last week talk about a man's not superior to a woman, no whitey superior? I mean, let me get ladies in on a secret. No amount of verbal voodoo is going to change the fact that men, you're the weaker vessel.  Equality, equality, equality, equality. You can stand firm what you said.   All these half a million dollar men who are suiting and I'm not entertaining them and turns out that neither one of your BDs is on child support and they both lower earning men and do dealing with them making $5,000 a month. F out of here. Go listen to that show. Say thank you in advance for the comedy hour.  I know she'd be back tonight because she made such a good showing last night. And one thing I will say that some women, like the next woman, I think there's some of these women that can actually be talked off and led and some are just too far gone. But what we're seeing is outside of my personal editorial, my opinion, those are just mine. Femininity, I mean feminism and Christianity are diametrically opposed doctrines. You cannot talk about ERA inequality and then a Christianity. What is it? You want a world where you're equal then make sure you get ERA. But then you get your butt out there and we need equal representation.  We're gonna need to see 51% of those with women and they have to be done to the level that men did. No child support, no government assistance because it would be unconstitutional. I hope you get the equality you asked for. Certainly, certainly do. All right, so we've been going at this for about 71 minutes and we started off with a one woman that you've heard before then the next one, which is probably the most extreme and easy to point out. But what I want you to notice is some things. You're hearing a lot of the same doctrine.  Equal, equal, equal, equal. Can nobody tell me nothing? I don't need nobody to tell me nothing. I'll let you leave. I'm single by choice. Remember the show I did? I was single by choice, over 30 attractive, single by choice, right. The next person, shout out to you. I think women like this are the most interesting ones. And I will say this, I don't wanna get too much into my commentary, but I wanna play the next part. I do not want anyone insulting Tiffany. I said, yep, yep. If I see you talking crazy about Tiffany, I'm going to time you out. Say nothing. She was not rude. You don't have to like what she says, but she was not rude. And the first lady honestly really wasn't rude either. The middle lady wasn't rude. There's no reason to be rude to these people. You can have your opinions, but keep the ad hominems because you didn't have a conversation with her. I had conversations with these people. I can say it, you have no reason to. All right. So last night, this is what happened. Are we doing good? Let me go ahead and check the likes on the channel. Guys, we need to get the likes up to over 900. We got over 1400 people in here. Let me do some, let me do a quick station identifications. Shout out to some people. Do me a favor. I'm going to turn on slow mode in the chat. I need you guys to let me know where you are hailing from. Where are you hailing from? City, state. City and gender. How about that? City and gender. Where you be? Where you be? Where you be? I'm going to give me a little something to drink before we play part two and then we open the call in log. But let's get back to my favorite piece. Call in log.  Let's get into this part. Part three, last night show. Let's get it. Hopefully that lady was young enough to where she can go ahead and make a change. All right. Well, I mean, I don't think any, I don't have any malicious intent. Right. And, you know, I'll put it this way. I'm a cancer survivor. And when my doctor, when I got my diagnosis back, one of the first questions I asked him was the remission rates and the prognosis. And I respect them that they didn't lie to me because you got to make real choices. And the situation that she was in, well, we're all in, is that we don't, if we have the information through, then we can make choices. So that's what it is. So thank you. Well, congratulations to you. God bless you for going through that. So what's your name in the chat room was what? Tiffany Chanel. Tiffany Chanel. Okay. Okay, I saw people talking to you. I'm the one that came in the chat and I was so excited about the topic of being over 30 and single and yeah, that was me. So are you over 30? I am. Are you looking to get married yourself? I've been married. Currently I'm not looking to get married. Now you're looking for an LTR? Long-term relationship? Long-term relationship? Oh, not currently. I'm currently not looking for a long-term relationship, but I'm open to friendship. And if that leads, that would be great. Now that is curious to me. I'm gonna tell you why I'm curious. Okay. As a divorcee myself, there was a cooling off degree. But most women I know don't want to die alone. Yeah. Are we saying that you just want to go through the rest of life unattached? That's a good question. I don't think I'm saying the rest of life unattached. I just think I'm finally able to focus on other things outside of relationship. You know, things that are important to me, my career, my household, my daughter, and so, yeah. Oh, there's your daughter. My daughter will be four in a couple of weeks. Okay. Well, everybody comes to a different point, but one thing I would love to hear more black women be able to do is to be able to have healthy relationships.  When I ask you if you want to be in a relationship, it's still comparing it against the negative versus the positive, where it can be. I mean, you've got a four year old, and you may have a great career, but it's always easier in life to go through it with support, help. So why not have support help healthy, happy relationships versus nothing? That's actually a beautiful point. My parents have been married for 48 years. My grandparents were married for over 65 years. Do you want that? Before they transitioned, and they're happy, and it's beautiful. See, now I have to ask the question. We all say what we want, but 65 year married grandparents and 48 year married parents, the vast majority of people want relationship like that. That's why I ask the question. Do you want that? Now, again, notice when I start asking direct questions, notice the answers don't come back direct. Do you want that?  See, see, see. There it goes, there it goes. That's okay. Okay, okay, there it goes. You came from 65 years and 48 years. If it exists for you, if you come from 65 and 48, why would it not exist for you? No, meaning if it exists for me. I know, why would it not exist for them? I know, that's why I said why could it not exist for you? I think, see, this is the Christian feminist balancing act that is so obvious to men like myself. But I don't think a lot of these women realize that they have competing opposing ideologies. If it exists for me, what you're gonna hear in a minute that I wanna live life according to God's perfect will, and God has made his will pretty well known. It's not unclear. You know, whatever God's plan is, you know, I wanna be that person that's open to what God has for me and not try to chase after something. Okay, so are you a Christian? Chase. I am. Are you a practicing Christian? When you say practicing, what do you mean? Are you living in accordance of the Christian, living by the Bible? Yes, sir, absolutely. Very important distinction. Are you a Christian? Yes. Are you a practicing Christian? What do you mean? I clarified. Are you living according and in by the Bible? Yes, sir. Absolutely. Everything from this point on flows through that affirmation. That's why all the questions from this point on flow from. All right, sure. Yeah, am I perfect? No, none of us are perfect. None of us are perfect. But I ran the singles ministry in three churches I was in. That's awesome. Yeah, and there's nothing in the Bible where God has anything about a spouse. This is a natural choice. Okay. In the black community, we put this off as a spiritual matter, like I'm living according, I have a show about three weeks ago where I had a woman, I actually know her pastor. And she kept on talking about how she's a good Christian woman. And I asked her, and at the end of the day, go back and watch the show. It's actually highlighted.  You don't believe it's possible. It was that what your grandparents and your parents had, that time is over. The world is different. So now God is my husband. A lot of people don't believe that, but that's an important distinction. Oh no, that's not, I'm not saying you, I'm saying oftentimes that becomes black women. Because- Oh no, yeah, that's not good. Well, that's why I said, if 65 years and 48 years, you have good role models. The world has not changed. Human beings are still the same. And I hate to hear when people have had bad experiences and to think, well, I'm just gonna leave it in God's hand. God don't work that way, sis. That has never been God's way. Marriage is a natural choice. Because if it worked that way, then God will be responsible for you. Were you married? Were you married to your daughter's father? Daughter's father? Hello? Okay, I can hear you now. Were you married to your daughter's father? We were married. Okay, so if it worked the way you're talking, God would be responsible for your divorce. I think man has their own will. Man and woman, man behind. So great, so saying work, so what you're saying is not, then that contradicts it. You're waiting for what God has for you. But then you say man and woman have their own will. That means? God has his perfect will for your life. Right, but none of that has to do with picking a spouse. I think that has to do with everything. God has his perfect will for your life. Thank you, yeah, we're charging the God. See, I've heard this so often with black Christian women. Injecting feminists, injecting this, it's all up to God. God has his perfect will for your life. And he's made it pretty clear. And then when you ask a specific question, again, with the generalities. No, you can think that, but there's nothing in. Go back to that. Leanne, he's not going to override your will. Exactly. Came from 65 years and 40 years. Deride your will. Exactly. God would be responsible for your divorce. I think man has their own will. Man and woman, man behind. So great. So saying work. So what you saying is not, then that contradicts it. You're waiting for what God has for you. But then you say man and woman have their own will. That means. God has his perfect will for your life. Right, but none of that has to do with picking a spouse. I think that has to do with everything. No, you can think that, but there's nothing in the, the tenants of Christianity.  Again, if it's meant for me, God will bring me my husband. No. And these ladies have heard pastors tell them, this is not how it works. They have to still say it. Man, I said, I taught three, many years in singles ministry and I was being married. That's an incorrect interpretation that oftentimes black women have. Marriage is a natural choice, not a spiritual. Marriage is a choice. I do believe that in every aspect of your life, God has his perfect will for you. That's in your career. Did he have his perfect will for Adam and Eve? He did. God has his perfect will for everything.  Worry about if you get that report completed by Friday, but I firmly believe that, I said this on Instagram earlier, let me tell you something.  Your wife is in church right now and she's one of these black female, Christian feminists. Why is the black murder rate so low? Cause we've got so many single women in church doing this, God's got it all waiting for me. Instead of saying, you know what? God gave me a mind and he gave me, this text is not saying what it said. And I've been told this way. You know what? I need to do like the sister said the other day. I put all this focus into my career and getting my, getting ahead in these reports. I need to put that much energy or more and he finally me a husband. Instead of just saying it's all up to God and God has it for me.  That is Christian feminist ideology. It makes you not responsible. So if it doesn't happen, it wasn't meant for me. God didn't have it for me. No, no. And that's what we gonna cook on tonight. No, man. And then they made choice. And no ladies, no, not just you. No. If you believe that, please be prepared to get on. Please be prepared to call in to this show and explain where that says that in the Bible. They have their own, did they have their own will? Absolutely.  Exactly. So... I think we agree, Kevin. We agree. We agree up to the point to where we... Or Mr. Samuel. Sorry, I don't know. No, no, Kevin, it's cool. We agree to the point to where we push this off onto God's perfect will for us. That is where I wholeheartedly disagree. That is where you first came. I said, what about this? You said, I'm gonna let God have it in his time. No, man, that's not how it works. I just, I guess my goal is I don't want women to think that if... Pay attention. Pay attention to this right here. Enter the Christian feminist. Wow! They're not getting a man. It's something always wrong with them. Sometimes it's just their choice, and that's okay. Okay. What's wrong with you, Christian? It's a woman's purpose. I believe a woman and a man's purpose is to serve and honor the Lord with their lives. Okay. I asked a very specific question. Mm-hmm.  What is a woman's purpose? What, the deflections have been going. What is a woman's purpose? I believe a woman and a man, remember the first caller? Every time I ask a specific question about this, she would tie it in with a man, this. Remember about the CJ King? And the whole juxtaposition lady, and every time I ask her a question, she always would tie it back to the feminism. You gotta link a man in it and deflect.  I don't even think they realized they're doing it because you've been doing it so long. What is a woman's purpose?  This is supposed to be easy. This came in the Christian starter kit. This information came in the Christian starter kit.  This came in the Christian starter kit. You know what this is. A woman's purpose is to serve the Lord with her life. That is not how she lives her life. That is not a woman's. Honoring God. That is not a woman's purpose, according to Christianity or the Bible. It's very clear that a woman's purpose is to- Are you talking about submitting to a husband? No, a woman's purpose is to be helped meet to man. Your purpose is- Oh, be the helpmate. Okay, I understand. Okay, so in the simple terms, a woman's purpose is man in Christianity. You have no purpose without a man here. If you did, God could have easily created Eve before Adam. God gave Adam the commandments and he put him in charge of a garden. He spoke to Adam. Did God ever speak to Eve? Adam was in authority. So he spoke to Adam. The answer directly is no. Here goes the deflection. It was the helpmate. He pulled her from his rib so that she could walk side by side with him. You don't want women to think that you don't want women to think opposite of what it is you say you believe. No, I don't want women to think that there's something wrong with them always. There can be things that are wrong, but it's not always that there's something wrong with a woman and it's not always that there's something wrong with a man. But thing is, hold on, but this whole, what is a woman's purpose on the planet? Okay, how about this? How about this, Nicole? Tiffany, can a woman survive on the planet by herself? Well, I've seen it happen. Where? It's always funny to me when you ask a very simple question to watch the cognitive break, the way they know if they answer the question they're gonna make themselves, they answer the question directly, they're going to contradict themselves. Human beings have a switch in us that makes us want to be correct or consistent. So when a woman is doing this, she's having to physically jump over the consistency switch and that's ego. Can a woman survive on this planet by herself? Oh, I've seen it happen before. Now I want you guys to understand the logical gymnastics and all the things she's gonna have to fill in to make this thing she's about to say true when you know the essence of the question. Again, no cursing, no raising your voice. Passive, aggressive, deceptive, lie by omission. So if you ask me. Where, where, where, where, where? I've seen single women live and be single until they're older and they change the subject. Oh, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. You've seen a woman take care of and provide for herself. Yeah. Did she build her own shelter? Yes, built. Did she build her own shelter? I set it up. You've seen a woman take care of and provide for herself. Well, I said I've seen a woman take care of herself. I've said that a woman can survive on the planet here by herself. So I have to keep, I have to keep going with this lie. I can't, I can't, I can't, I'm too into this ego struggle. I'm too into being right. I can't give them the fact that I got it. I got to stick to it. And I'm going to tell you this draw. This is one of the reasons so many black men have left the church. They are tired of dealing with Christian women like this and personally to you, Tiffany, but you're tired of dealing with Christian women like this because this is you're supposed to have a different set of behaviors. You're seeing the same ratchetness and silliness in the church as you see on the street. Used to go to church to get a good girl and now you go to church to get even more problems. Did she build the shelter herself? Now, our 1,429 of y'all know exactly 1,427 of y'all cause Tiffany probably in there and then Danny probably in there just throwing stones at me. She ain't gonna agree with me. Everybody in there know exactly what I was asking. Did she physically build that shelter by herself? Did she get out there and cut the wood, get the stones, everything else? And she said, yes. Ain't such a sweet, simple, like yes. I'm doing the Jedi mind trick on you. You ain't Obi-Wan.  Nothing to see here. Move along. Look at this. Her house. She built her own home. Did she actually run the plumbing to that home? Oh, I see, like hiring people or did she run the plumbing? I don't know. Tiffany, what I'm saying, what I'm saying, that's why I asked you very definitely. Oftentimes women use Christianity as convenient. Convenient Christians. A woman's purpose is a man. No two ways about it. Women cannot survive without men. You're not physically capable. You don't have the strength. Your body's not built for it. You cannot do it. So to say women can survive without men is telling women the wrong thing.  Do you think a woman should enter a relationship and stay if a man is abusive? Now, I asked about simple fundamental questions. Here goes the gas lights, the temple. Again, Christian woman.  And really, that's basically what she asked me.  So what? I can start, again, this is too simple. Ask your question that you have to say yes to so you can try to build on those yeses. No. But you don't answer those questions. You just call them out. What does that have to do with Christianity? My point is that some women have had this happen. Okay, but this was an attempt to change the subject because it was in contradiction and opposition to her state of belief system. Feminism. See, Christianity is about the gospel. The gospel of Jesus Christ the truth. And there's nothing about this as Christian.  And guys, raise your hands in the chat room if you run across educated, cool sisters who are attractive, who are Christians, who act like this, who are feminist. Any man in the chat room, please, if you run across these black women, Christian feminists and your personal life and your professional life of church, raise your hands. I'm gonna tell you, I stopped going to church. I was going to church four to five days a week and I haven't been to church in years because I can't take it anymore. Can't take, when you got butch and studs coming in there. Whoa, where are we at, man? We tell her to sit with him. Do you respect Tiffany? I could pull out, I could pull out, we could go that tip for tap all night. We really could. Yeah, I'm not sure. What I'm not okay with, what I'm not okay with is Christian women telling women that they don't need a man. I'm okay with that. If you're a Christian woman and you say you're living according to the Bible, then there's no way you can say that. Yeah, I'm not trying to say, oh, you don't need a man, do everything by yourself. What I'm saying is, don't feel bad and feel like you're doing something wrong. If you're currently not with a man, it's okay. Feminist, again, I don't want women to feel bad or like you're doing something wrong if you're not currently with men, it's okay. Where they say that in Christianity? Where is that in Christianity? Tiffany directly, where is that in the Bible? Ask your father. That is feminism. I don't want you to feel like something that is wrong, like something's wrong. I don't want you to feel what you can see and live.  I want you to be a baby mama, a single mother and sitting in church just fine and comfortable. Sorry, we got too much of that. Oh, we are going to cook tonight. Cook, this is out of control. Maybe one day, but maybe not today. And it's okay. Maybe one, but okay, but hold up. Okay, maybe one day, but maybe not today. But who is that woman under? Who is she submitting to? Well, she needs to be submitting to the Lord. Right. Through who? But if she's, who's covering that woman when she's by herself? Because the father is, because here's how- The angels. See that right there?   Who is that woman submitting to? She's supposed to be submitting to the Lord. But the answer is through who? See, while she goes from her father, she's supposed to go to her husband. But now since you've got free choice in the mating market, you can go through the world. But see Christianity doesn't care about governments of man. Christianity ain't asking anything about the government of man. He answered about the right to vote or none of that stuff. God ain't care about that. Christianity has survived many governmental systems. You, me, we decide to be Christians.  Who are they submitted to? They're supposed to not a father. And the father down, who's supposed to be a priest? That's who you're supposed to be submitting to for a temporary period. And then the elder women of the church, that's who you're supposed to be under, the priest and elder women of the church. That's where the single women are supposed to go. Let's talk, but you're not supposed to be just, I'm just submitting to Christ by myself. You're not a nun and there's a clock on that. And then you say, who's covering her? And the truthful answer, a real truthful Christian should have given me, she's uncovered. But you gotta make it to her. There's nothing wrong with it. Well, I can't say that there's something wrong with a woman that as a Christian woman seems not actually recovered under a man's authority. So the angels, that's what she basically said to me. Guys, how many times have you done that with Christian women? Christian black women? I asked them a question that you know and you both know the answer to and they refuse to give it to you. Gentlemen, how many times have you asked a black Christian feminist an answer that you and her both know that it's indusputable, but she refuses to give it to you. That ain't nothing but ego. And you know what, in the extension of God is my husband. See, no matter how you slice it, that's still your position. Well, I think God is my everything. God is my everything. Well, that's fine, but see this is not, but even TD Jakes, he used to, and I want to be clear, this is not about Tiffany. So I know how we can get in, this is not about Tiffany, but this is who's talking right now. It's an avatar. He's one of the avatars for these things. Now, Danny, I'm going to tell you in there, enough, your segment is over, this ain't the Danny show. So, because I used your video, it's not for you to come over here and show out. So, participate like anybody else, stop engaging people, if you don't like what they're saying. Cause I'm about ready to time you out. This ain't your channel. Get angry with the members of this church, cause too often women were taking this bastardization of Christianity and actually making this a problem. You know often TD Jakes actually said in church, do not go quote me in your house to your husband.  Exactly. And how often women misinterpret the scripture because it's not your place. See, if you're a Christian woman, you know your purpose is a man. Everything God has told you is in conjunction with a man. So what you're saying is opposite to Christianity that is worldly. That's why I asked you initially, are you a Christian living according to the tenants? I am. But you can't be in hold of these positions. You're living in opposition to God's will for man and woman. Simple as that. Go ask your pastor. Go ask anybody. My dad is my pastor. Okay. And what does he do? Did you hear that piece? Dad's a pastor. No excuse. Dad's a pastor. He's been married to mom for 48 years and grandparents for 65 years. What does he tell you? So we're raised in a house where it's husband and wife. Exactly. And my mom has just helped me. Okay, but what does he tell you a woman's purpose is? Yeah. So I see people saying that I'm using God as an excuse. And that's just- I don't care about the chat room.  You know how conveniently she just deflected that question? Didn't want to just say I'm not listening to my father or my pastor. I'm not going to say what they said because if I do, I know you know what he told me but I can't answer that question. Ooh, look at the barrier. Nothing to see here. Move along. Jedi mind trick. Wow. Tiffany look at- I didn't come on here for that. Tiffany, Tiffany, don't look at this. They say I'm doing this and I'm going, now it's this right. They're saying this, they're saying that it didn't work. I'm supposed to see what I was supposed to do. I was supposed to put on my cape and say, no, no, no, don't say that. She's a good- No, I stayed right on the path. I didn't care about it because I wasn't even looking in the chat room. People can only respond to what we say. They're not making stuff up. They're just listening to what we say. That room.  I came on here- Hold on, Tiffany. I appreciate your thought. Who was bashing- Tiffany, listen. You've not been bashed by me. Don't look at the chat room. You and I having a conversation that can benefit women. See, what I understand from a lot of you women is I need some of you ladies to get a council together and define what bash means. Because far too many of you women thought this word bash away around, this is the generic throwaway word.  Whether it fits or not, I've said the truth. In the nicest way possible, I've had people tell me I bash women, but yet they can't tell me what it was. I don't care what people in the chat room were saying. We're having a conversation. I didn't bash her. I'm just asking, just talking. Just trying to understand why. Why are so... We know what the real core question is.  That's the question that bothered me the most that would not nagged at me for so long. I go in the church and see so many straight up fine sisters. Fine, fit, in shape, just cold. Waste, wastes, waste. I'm like, God, dog. And single as Frankenstein. I'm like, why are y'all... This is like manna. Just honey after honey, after honey. Potter's house, the Friendship West, to Oakland Bible Fellows. It didn't matter. We just went all around. Just Lord have mercy. Oh, whoops. Can't wait. Z-Fire and whatever, just G-Rose. Just like, God, Lee. Got the little church hat on, the little pencil skirt in the hills. Hey, how you doing? Got the Bible and it's smelling good. And you're like, God.  Hear me roar. The number's too big to ignore. Like, oh, I see.  Oh, okay. So I'm supposed to go out and do what the, you know, God's people did against the Philistines and everything else, but you want to live life right along. Okay, I get it. All right, I got it, got it. Have I been disrespectful to you? No, not at all. Have I been rude to you? No. So what do you...  I listen to what you say to the lady and what I'm saying is you focus here. And all I'm doing is questioning what it is you say because let me tell you the problem. I have some of the things you said. Far too often, black women are uncoupled because of the misunderstanding of Christian doctrine. Bingo! And that's why I asked, what does your pastor say?  A father? If you're a Christian woman, you're supposed to be submitted to someone. How many of you Christian women are in submission to a man? Not your husband? Then your father? Then your pastor? Something you're supposed to be in submission to someone. The elder women of the church, where are you? Because if you were, you'd be married because when you get under submission, you tend to get under control, get right, start thinking and making right decisions, start making decisions in line with what God has for you, not what this world has for you. All this stuff, I don't want women, all this, a lot of stuff you've been, these women say a worldly stuff and wonder why relationships don't work. You couldn't just say you're a Christian, but if you're gonna act worldly, it don't make no difference. Husband, even in the holding, men of the church somewhere, women are not... My pastor says that a man should not be without a wife and that the wife is to be the helpmate and that the wife is to submit to the husband and the husband also submit. But you said you don't want women to think that there's something wrong with her if she's not with the man and that's just... Because I think there's a lot of pressure on individuals. I think there's a lot of pressure. We are talking about a religious belief system that's supposed to be pressure to believe.  That's pressure, yes. Why is the way? Why does the path narrow as the way? Remember? Balancing on the head of a pen, remember? There's supposed to be pressure to get into the kingdom of heaven. Everyone ain't gonna make it, remember? Noah, the flood, remember? It's pressure, pressure. That's what it means to be a Christian. See, you just want God to say a lot to a lot of... See, God, a lot of Christian feminists treat God like they think men. Like he's just a Santa Claus in heaven that's supposed to give you what you want. And then when I started talking about Blake Henry and Blue Henry, what it takes to be the kind of man that you women say you want, ask that woman, how much does a man need to make to be able to pay for you and three kids to be in a suburban household and da-da-da-da in a major metropolitan city. I don't know, $80,000? Bit what? On the West Coast, $80,000 for five people. For all this stuff, I said, I don't know, I'm not good with men. See, when a man has just got a Christian Santa Claus like, you know, digital Jesus, it's just supposed to happen. I just pray on it and God makes it happen. Come on, man, be as it should be. Is it, if you're a Christian, hold on, man, hold on, man, hold on, man.  We chose to be Christians. And we don't get to select the parts of the doctrine in the Bible we choose to follow. That is a new thing with all this prosperity preaching.  And every question I've asked you to actually get you to find something, you've slid away because you didn't wanna answer specifically what you and I both know to be the truth that you say you believe. Well, no, I answered to you what my dad has said as my pastor. And he did say that man should not live without a wife and the wife should submit to the husband, the husband should submit. So I'm sure when you and your ex chose to divorce, he probably also counted you both. And he counted you on divorce. Yes. Okay, that's fine. But we also had other Christian counselors outside the church. And ultimately, I asked you earlier, do you wanna marry a long-term relationship? And at the end of the day, man, what it really comes down to, it is a dangerous thing to tell women that you don't need men because what it is, is what you're saying, you don't need, you do need us. You need us. I don't think I would tell a woman that she doesn't need a man. What I would tell a woman is not to feel. Now, I want you to understand the mental gymnastics that Christian feminist mindsets have them to go through in order to take pressure off women so they don't feel bad about being unsuccessful Christians, unmarried women, living their life in contradiction to the belief system they say they hold. Why are we as believers taking that pressure off? I mean, think about the nerve. This is like you put yourself on top of God. I don't want women to feel this way. So you know what? I'm gonna forget what the Bible says in the pastor, forget what God said, let me tell you what it really is. Isn't this what happened in the Garden of Eden? And you wonder why a patriarchy exists to control this kind of thinking. Don't come down on yourself if you're not yet married. I'd say the same thing to a man. Don't come down on yourself if you're not yet married. Okay, but who, okay, if you're not yet married, is there a clock on that? Is there a clock on this? So I think with the biological clock for men and women, it could be because if a woman doesn't have her baby by the age of 35, 36, she's considered high-risk. If a man doesn't have his child by his mid 40s, he's considered high-risk. Okay, let me ask you a very defining question about marriage, what is the purpose? Why do we marry? Well, you marry to reproduce, to bring children into the world, to raise them in the admonition of the Lord. That's one reason, but what else? I would think to raise productive citizens in society, to keep your seed, to keep your legacy going. Right, so you can do none of that as an individual. Certainly can't do anything other than as an individual Christian. Oh, it looks like people are saying, why am I up here if I'm talking about other people? I don't hear about, could you please stop looking and, see, I don't understand why you are doing that. I mean, I'm trying to have a conversation with you and I'm not looking there and it's my show. Okay. What it sounds as though you're more concerned. I'll respect that, let me hide the chat. How about that? Let me just hide them. Okay. How about you just, because what you, see, we're Christians, we chose to be that. So I cannot sit there and say, I agree that you're saying that a woman should not feel bad that she's not married or whatever.  Yeah, I mean the Bible says that, right? The Bible says a man should not live without a wife. Exactly, so what we say, so what we're saying, so what you ultimately said is you didn't want women to feel something wrong. There is something wrong if you're a Christian and don't have a husband. At some point, you don't, I just don't want people to be down on the floor. Ma'am, I'll just say this now, move on to the next call. Tiffany, your father's a pastor. What you want is indirect. What women like this want, what Christian feminists want is what's effectively happened to the black community and which is why we have such a problem. You want to remove shame.  Everything a woman chooses to do in her natural will is blameless and shameless.  And I don't think anybody in their right mind can say the black community is a better off unit than it was 70 years ago when we had nuclear families, churches and shame. That's what this all is. I don't want these women to feel shame.  But you keep on waiting and I'm waiting for God to send me one and you get to heaven. God, what is this story about? A man's out in the middle of the ocean drowning. A boat comes by. You need some help? No, God will save me. Another boat comes by. Need some help? No, God will save me. Another boat comes by. Need some help? God will save me eventually. Gives up on exhaustion, drowning, goes to heaven. He says, God, I thought you loved me. I thought you would save me. He said, I sent the three boats, you dummy.  They all had men. Several men. More men than the average woman that calls into my show.  Conflict with your belief system. That's for you to sort out. But I'm just knowing, just understanding, according to Christianity, you're 100% incorrect. I'm not gonna tell you you're wrong to have it but you're wrong as a Christian and you know it. Yeah, I think maybe I'm being misunderstood because I'm not saying that a man and a wife shouldn't be together. I understand, I understand, I understand. If yourself tell me, I think it's a no-go, don't rush it. I understand that Christians. The rest of you might end up divorced like me. Well, no, no. Whoa! I don't want you to rush it. See? You gotta be specific on the boat you're waiting for. You gotta wait, you gotta wait, you gotta wait cause you gotta be right. See, that means that's this whole get the bag, level up, everybody gotta be perfect. I gotta wait till I'm perfect and open the floodgates cause if you rush it, you might get divorced. I challenge all of you Christian women, feminists who think that way. Black women file eight out of 10 divorces. Black men are not leaving their black wives.   Unrepentant addiction and da, da, da, da, da, just make a dangerous person to be around. Even if half, that means four out of 10 are marriages that should still be working but why are so many women walking away from their husbands? You ask them what happened and it's irreconcilable differences, i.e. I wasn't happy. i.e. I was looking for something better. I deserve more. I need to level up.  And what did I do? Counseling to stay with your husband. You better go thank God you got this, man. But two women are worried about rushing into a marriage too soon because you landed a divorce. How about this? Stop filing divorce.  You're not happy. Well, you're not happy. How can you be the least married group on the planet and file the most divorces?   Especially if you might get a divorce. No, no, I don't give you that because if you get married for not love, you get married for very practical reasons, spiritual reasons, Christian reasons. See, back in the day we used to do this. A lot of this hallmark love stuff, your feelings and all that stuff did not matter. You got married because of children, legacy, things, and eventually you fell in love with your spouse. And the church, hold on, hold on, hold on. And the church did not move the way the world did. Today, the church has become far too worldly and this is what's in the church. This is why so many, your church going woman, you see how many men are no longer in church? Why do you think so many men are not in church because they're tired of hearing Christian women talk like this? You have Christian women speaking in contravenance to Christianity. That is why men are leaving the church. That is why pastors are actually telling their female flock, do not speak this way, do not say these things, but yet black women, black Christian women are some of the most stubborn, hardheaded people on the planet because at the end of the day, it's your faith and God is the person you're going up to. But at the end of the day, nothing in God's word, nothing in God's appointed men on earth, nothing God has said is what women are talking about. That's why people in the chat room were talking. That's why people in the chat room. I think you and I actually agree. I think we're agreeing to be honest with you. A man should not be alone, right? That's in God's word. A woman should not be alone. Watch the verbal judo. A man should not be alone. When God wrote man should not be alone. So God would often write man when he was talking about mankind, meaning man and a woman. But see, feminist logic tries to make that specific to men when it fits them. That's what we're about to have here. Be the helpmate to the man, submit to the man. The man should honor and love the wife, just as Christ loved the church. We agree on that. All's I'm saying is don't come down on yourself if it hasn't happened for you yet. Why would a Christian woman be telling Christian women to not put pressure on yourself to be in a position to be found by your husband? How is this helping women? Don't feel bad if you're not married yet. Yes, we need, yes, you should. Let me just go ahead. Yeah, you should. There's something wrong. 26% marital rate, there's something wrong. We need to bring shame back. How many people in the chat room, men or women, how many people in the chat room agree that we need to bring shame back, especially to the black church? That we need to start, how many people in the church, how many people in the chat room, especially black Christians, can admit that we need to start bringing back sin. Excuse me, ma'am, you got two kids by three different men, what's going on? We need to start calling this stuff out. How many people would love to go to a Mother's Day ceremony and you see an old school pastor get channeled into one of these mega churches and T.D. Jake starts speaking out against baby mamas on Mother's Day, speaking out from a Christian standpoint. How many of you would love to hear that?  Instead of just telling them, I've been in church where I've seen married men in the powder's house looking at their wives, hear a different message than the husbands.   Didn't know many of you women were actually invoking my name in your marriage and arguments with your husband. That ain't exactly what I meant. I was trying to get them ties to come in. I wasn't trying to put you in opposition to your headship, let me back up too late. We need to bring shame back to the church and suppose that Christians, we volunteer to be Christians, no one makes us this, we volunteer. So yes, this is why I told you, ma'am, you're wrong.  That's feminist logic. They should feel bad, they should feel something that should be pressure upon Christians to act like Christians. You'll find love, you can and will find love. Okay, first off, ma'am, let me stop you right there. Let me stop you right there. The last thing you just said had nothing to do with Christianity. And I repeat, don't come down on yourself if you haven't found love. You will find- Or should I say if you haven't found your spouse? Let me change that. No, ma'am, you've said it three times and that's the point. You still are conflating love in marriage. That's why I've asked you- Well, the Bible says that. The Bible says the husband doesn't love the wife as Christ loved the church. But that is not the purpose of marriage. It is not romantic love. I'm not talking about romantic love, I'm talking about the God I like the love. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Tiffany, Tiffany, the man she loved, the man she loved his wife like God, like Jesus loved the church. She said what she meant, clean it up with a God-pay at the end. You were talking about heroes, romantic love, not a God-pay. I know the words too. That's why I was like, well, let me clear that, but if you didn't mean love, let me say your spouse. Now, you meant love. This is romantic love. See, romantic love and a God-pay love have been completely screwed up in the church. The church was never about romantic love. It was always about a God-pay. You didn't talk about love in arranged marriages. Love came later. A God-pay. A God-pay love. Let me say that again. You marry for duty, duty. A wife marries for a duty to her man, her husband. And a man marries for duty to his wife. That's what the vows are for. Those aren't suggestions. How many of you Christian women have walked away from your functioning marriage because you weren't happy? You had a little hiccup or a bump in the road. For better or for worse, sick or for poor and rich as hell. Well, he lost his job last year and the money. I can do better. I can get child support and get... Duty. Which can't talk about duty because that requires you to be selfless. It requires you to hold yourself to a higher standard than the rest of the world that's fallen. That's what we're supposed to be. The church is supposed to be the light. Yet the marital rate, the divorce rate in the church is higher than in the world.  Which is not romantic love. You're talking about eros. I didn't say anything about romance. I never said the word romance. But the love you're talking about is romantic love. Don't come down on yourself. You have not found love. Selfless love? Agape has nothing to do with... Okay. The Christ-like love. I am not new, Tiffany. I'm not new. I think we agree, Kev. We agree. We do agree, except for one thing. A woman's purpose on the planet is a man. That is your sole purpose. Is a man's purpose a woman? Like, what would be a man's purpose? The woman's purpose on this planet is a man. That is a statement of Christian facts. Now, I want you to hear what is said. See, if you're trying to be in alignment with men... See, let me segue. This is the problem a lot of black men have with black women. You want global protection. You want protection from... When you talk about you're not protected or provided for... But when you ask who you're submitting to, I'll submit to my man, this or that. So you only submit to one man, but all the other men are supposed to be able to stand in to defend you like a man, but you're not submitted to them. Then this conversation seems like she's trying to get on the same page with me, or she's trying to combat with me. I'm asking Christian stuff that's not debatable. And this part right here was a big aha. A woman's purpose on this planet is a man. And she said, so a man's purpose on this planet is a woman? That's some playground. I know you are, but what am I? A man that is your purpose. Worry about your purpose. See, you want to win an intellectual battle. Your purpose is a man. That's it. And then this is that Western, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, I deal with your purpose. See, what you're doing right now has nothing to do with Christianity or anything else. It is an ego battle. And a man's purpose is to follow God. This sounds like a child. This child is heartache. It's like, why are you questioning what my purpose is? Do your job. Don't worry about my job. Do your job. But no, black, female, Christian feminists want to tell you how to do your job. Like Eve tried to tell Adam, if we ain't following people, I don't know. I mean, boy, anyway, what is a man's purpose?  What is your purpose? So that everyone understands. What is a woman's purpose?  The Bible says, follow me as I follow Christ. So as the woman is the husband's leading the household, he's leading the woman and the children as he follows Christ. And that does not change what I said. As I'm saying, we agree. We're not arguing. We agree if she's married. If you're unmarried, you're uncovered. You're not following anybody. You're following yourself. That's what I've been asking. As a single woman, who are you following? As a single woman, I'm a young woman to my pastor and I'm following the Lord. Exactly.  Ma'am, single women, divorce women, we're not, that's not play games, you're uncovered. And there's a provision, there's provisions there, but that, and there's a, there's a... There's definitely provision there. But you're not supposed to live life uncovered. There's provision there for when the husband dies, not when you divorce and leave your husband. That's some of that new way Christian stuff. Yo, there's a provision there for single women or women whose husband have moved on, but not divorcees. You're living in sin. It's sin as a Christian woman. Men should have wives to have husbands. So, so, if you're not supposed to live, so, so, so, no, no, and there's a woman, I agree, men should have wives and wives should have, I agree, but then she said, shout out to the single parents. There's a Christian woman, that's feminism right there. Again, I don't want women to feel bad.  You broke your covenant with God. I'm sorry, I want you to feel bad. I want you to know that you broke your covenant.  You should not be able to come in here like nothing's wrong. Y'all got married on January and you divorced in December and you back up in the church. He over there, you over there like ain't nothing wrong. What are we doing here? This is why men have left the church. They're tired of seeing women with no consequences.  Tired of it, being a tired of hearing it. So many men have a relate, a holding church or going in their own closet having a one-on-one relationship with God.  I used to go to church but I do not like what I see in modern Christian churches today. Facts. I take my grandmother's Bible that she marked up from here to there and the Bible I have over there as I was five years old, it's falling apart and my Bible and my grandfather gave me and I go to work here because I know when I walk over there, I'm gonna see a bunch of bull. I'll shout out single parents. I don't shout out single parents. No, especially Christians. It's not about, it's not about love. It's not a- It's sad when you become a single parent but you do it together. No, it's not sad when you become a single parent. It's sad when you become a single parent. What do you mean when you become a single parent? You don't become a single parent. You choose to be a single parent. Become a single parent. You hear these words? This is why black Christian feminists. This is feminist doctrine. Shout out to the single mothers. What do you mean? It's sad when you become a single parent. What do you mean you become? You become. A caterpillar becomes a butterfly. What do you metamorph into of a single mother? You see all these softening words? Oh my God, we need old school shame back. You don't need the red pill if you're in church. The Bible is the biggest red pill you ever need. You don't need no red pill if you're a Christian. Red pill is the holy Bible. It ain't changed. It's the pill of pills. It's sad when you choose to be a single Christian parent and live in contravenous to the thing you say you believe. That's when it's sad because how did that happen? See, here's what I find troubling about this conversation. I don't know how that means.  And I'm getting this level of pushback and you're supposed to be one of the good ones. What about the women who weren't raised? I hope I'm a good one. Well, well, I gotta be honest.  I don't want you guys to make this about her, but I use these ladies as avatars because I believe that when I open the call lines, I can hear black men, black Christian men tell me story after story after story after story about similar encounters they've had with black Christian feminists. I don't know any upstanding Christian black brother that believes black Christian feminists are the good ones. I don't care how good you're looking at dress on Sunday. I don't care how that dress nips at your waist and then hips do this and you're looking at, you're looking good and smelling good and then I don't, it is mind boggling and it's so, it is soul tearing for men to look at women in church and know that satanic, demonic feminist thoughts are running through your head in this sacred place. That you can look at that very same Bible and hear the very same message and twist it in such a way that ain't got nothing to do with God. That's got everything to do with the world of feminism and that feminism is crept its way into the church where you're supposed to be on guard for that kind of stuff to the point to where you're actually preaching it to the men. What you telling your sons? I would be honest, ma'am, there's some things that are extremely troubling about what it is you say you believe and that's the problem a lot of black men have. This is a woman who says her grandparents were married for 65 years, her parents were married for 48 years, her father is her pastor yet she's divorced and telling women don't feel bad if you don't fall in love or have a man or whatever you want to come out and all the stuff you're talking about does not line up with what it is you say you believe yet that's what you say you're putting in head of you trying to help you find a husband is going to be on guard and everything I've done is used exactly what you said to show you that you're in contradiction but you're still going to hold on to it because here's the real problem, Tiffany, too many black women like yourself are just hardheaded and can't nobody tell you nothing. Oh, goodness. I'm pretty okay. You said your dad? Yeah, she actually thought that was funny, but I was serious. I honestly, they don't believe that. I'll be honest, a lot of women who move like this, black Christian feminists, they don't believe they're being hardheaded. They honestly think we got a problem. They really think, what's the big deal? I mean, really they do. It's like the issue ain't them as us. How do I know this? I've done this a long time. And again, if you got a, if you're, this is a discussion about Christian marriage. So I don't want to hear our upset beginning. You in there talking crazy about marriages and I'm just time you out. Let's talk about the show. But you're okay. You and I are probably the same age. I don't, and what does that have to do with anything? You don't hear those words hardheaded unless it's like a parent talking to a child. How old are you? I'm 37. I'm 51. You look good. And even if I was 36, I'm still a man. Yep.  So I don't understand what me saying something you need to be, that's why I wanted to have this conversation. Yeah. I mean, I think we are. It was a good conversation because what I think what you're gonna see is they're gonna be, I'm a patient person. I'm a learned person, but I know what I believe and why I believe. And here's the thing.  I do agree with you. I keep telling you. No, ma'am, we don't know, no, ma'am. If you, if you tell me we're on the same page. The voodoo. If you think this is on a one accord, I hate to see this court. Just because you're not cursing and calling me out of my names, you're not an integral. Wouldn't do that. Exactly. But it does not change the fact that you're still in opposition to what it is you say you believe. And I don't even have to get, so I didn't get into your personal life and why you're not this. I don't want, it does not matter. This is a global issue with black men and black women. There should not be this amount of acrimony, especially with people who raised their hand and volunteered to be Christians. No one forced us to be Christians. No one forced us to live our lives in accordance. That's why I asked you very specific questions.  You are supposed to be agreeing. That's not supposed, when I asked you what a woman's purpose is, it shouldn't be all this. A man, to be a help me. This is supposed to be really easy for Christian women. To be a help me, to cover him, to, you know, I agree. I do agree with that. Okay, well, it's good to say with our mouths, but when we live it with our lives, there's not this amount of acrimony. But thank you for calling in. I do. I think this is a good call. Thank you. Thank you very much. And y'all stop looking at the chat room. They ain't on nobody. You don't know these folks. They're out of culture. I think you got some good people in the chat. They're just straight shooters. Okay, but if they got some good ones then, I mean, I don't allow guys to come over and troll women and stuff. But we're gonna have, I think this is a good conversation because if black men and women don't have these, we ain't, our marital rates are gonna continue to do what they do and our families are gonna continue to do what they do. All right, well, that was it. So let me say this, people are lining up in the Zoom room. Tiffany was a good sport, you know. And I honestly, look, man, who was I talking to earlier? It dawned on me the earlier today.   But in a black church, it's all women cause the men didn't left. The men are at home on Saturdays, on Sundays. So for the guys who wanna get married, your wives are at church. They just don't know who, but they gotta get the feminism up out of them. Leave the Christianity, take the feminism. So that's why I was laughing at Tiffany. Tiffany's an attractive woman. I was sitting back, I was like, and it's really about women in the South too. It's like, and it bothers you more, it bothers a lot of these guys more because you look at the women like, man, she's pretty, she's attractive. Man, if it just wasn't a feminist, but you can't say if she just wasn't a feminist. I mean, that's a big piece. It ain't like you just get rid of that. It's like, you know, man, if blowfish just wasn't poisonous, yeah, it is.  All right, let's get him on. Be respectful. Be respectful. Me, I call. I'm a Kaya, I'm a Kaya. What's going on? So like, dang, man, where my wife at, man? She in church. Aw, man, dang, dang.  You like that. Be like, dang, man, I wish she, oh, I wish she would just get, oh, hold on. Wait for the phone to connect. There it is. Hey, I'm good. You're back again. Let me make sure it's connected. What you got for me? Hold on, it's not, this sound's not coming through yet. I might have to give me a better phone connection. Even, I want everybody here. So give me a second. I'll just launch it over here. Just a second, Kaya. Cause I want people to be able to hear you. I'll just launch it on my computer. Join meeting. Guys, be nice and be nice to everybody. Don't get ugly. Don't be mean to people. You know? Ain't none of us perfect. All right. Makaya, go ahead. So I guess I'm listening to what you're saying and I'm a little bit confused by the term Christian feminist because I'm thinking that it's just a misinterpretation of clear language of the Bible. I don't necessarily think it's feminism because even if you look at the most common story that you hear people talk about with regard to mating and finding partnership, the story of Ruth and Boaz. If you read the story, the book of Ruth is only four chapters. If you read the story, Ruth presented herself to Boaz. The presentation of Ruth was appealing to Boaz and therefore both people were in a position to become one. I don't necessarily understand how that can be confused. So let me say this. Do you know what feminism is defined as? Yes, I do and I'm not a feminist. I agree with what you're saying. Okay, yeah, and that's what I was, if you notice the women I kind of showcase, there was always this advocacy for women's rights and equality. Yes. And that Christianity does not make a, we are definitely not equals in Christianity. Exactly. Right. That's why the term Christian feminist is like an oxymoron. Right. And so I guess what I'm saying is, it just seems to me that these women may be feminists, which I think is the affirmation that you have to affirm feminism, but the bigger thing is they're just misinterpreting clear language. So it's interesting to me that the word Christian and Christianity is being thrown around and these individuals aren't very clear about the book if you believe it from cover to cover. Well, let me tell you what I think one of the big problems is and Tiffany's in here, here's one of the big problems I've noticed in the church. I grew up Baptist, I was baptized Baptist. So if anybody knows anything about different parts of Christianity, Baptist is, you know, pretty old school. Then I went church a guy in Christ. That means a lot of stuff came out of the Old Testament.  All right. But long about mid 80s, early 90s, something happened in the church. It was almost a reformation, prosperity preaching, prosperity gospel. Are you familiar with the term? Yeah. Prosperity gospel became the new thing and what pastors across the churches recognize is church membership ties and offerings were up when you're preaching redemption, everybody can live. It's your life when people are hearing that people are more apt to give. Cause one of the biggest cause churches has a business component.  32. Okay. In the seventies, you had five or six offerings. You had this offering, that offering, the building fund, they put your name on the back of the bulletin. They got a little thing up on the wall, daily tides. Collecting tides was a chore for churches. They used to, churches would shame their members into it. But when prosperity gospel came along, cause there were no mega church, there were not as many mega churches in the sixties and seventies. But now you've got mega churches everywhere. Right? I agree. And I guarantee you they're preaching what's called Christianity light. My mother was a single mother in 1969. She could not go to church pregnant. That's facts. Okay.  Pants, good luck with that. They'll put you out. You can't come into church with pants.  So, but what you notice in these churches is there's a high marital rate. And see what I used to hear. This is why I used to bother me.  Cause the story goes around that in marriages like that, there was all this abuse going on. I'm sorry. That's just not the truth. Black men have never been mister. Alice Walker. Ugh, that woman. That story has done more to damage black male female relationships because we associate marrying young or marrying for a long time as bondage.  You don't need no man because if you do, he gonna keep you barefoot and pregnant. And when you ain't got no money and no job, next comes the beatings. Tell me I'm lying. I agree with you. So. So I understand. I get exactly what you're saying. I think the message that, I mean, I guess I had is that, I think the interesting part to me is something that I find to be common with black women is it's always I achieve this goal. I went to school. I got this degree. I achieved this success. It's never attributed to God, right? Right. But when it comes time for relationships advice, God will send me. Get out of there, Makaya. Get out of there. Get out of there.  It's real. It's interesting. I know. God is supposed to slap a person in your, who's supposed to be what you want them to be. And like I say yesterday, you do have to do some level of work to prepare yourself for the right situation. And if you do take time away from dating and relationships and you should be working on preparing yourself for your next relationship. But in my personal opinion, I think the need to not need a man or to say you don't need a man is more because it's easier to say you don't need what you don't have.  My mother was the world, the world, that woman. She's a red pill horror story. But she was raised by the people who raised me. She was raised, right. And one thing happened, my mom turned 51. She went through this transfer that I didn't notice.  And in under three years, she found a husband, the most unlikely man I've ever met in my life, called me up and said, hey son, what you doing? Coming down to Dallas. I was like, what, huh? My mom doesn't just do that. I was like, she got, but I know my mama like she about to bring somebody down here for me to meet. I'm like, what?  And you don't date the right kind of dudes.  But I just watched him. Good man, they've been married for going on 25 years.  But she would tell you, I'm not going to ever have my family in there, but she would tell you, I stopped fighting what I knew was right. Now we moved house to house to house to me. A part move rent and all this other kind of stuff.  They got a big old home. She's done more travel. She's done more living, better living in the last 25 years. And she did in the first 50. And that woman's happy and I've ever seen in my life. And they argue like any old married couple. And I'm like, but I don't worry about my mama because I know she got a husband and a man up there to love her and take care of her.    There are more black women than black men. Black men want to, I have over the last several years of turning, I'm an image guy and a fragrance guy. But I've made this tack on YouTube because I can't, but I've heard more men say, I want to be with a woman. I want this, I want that. I hear more men say they want to be with women and I hear women say they want to be with men. It's almost like if a woman admits she wants a marriage or a man, you breaking code. Nah. So good to hear that from you though. I appreciate you. Okay. Well, thank you for coming in. Let me see if I'm about to get cussed out. I'll put you back. Evelyn, where'd I get wrong? Hello? You need to start your audio, Evelyn. Who's harassing you, Raelle? Don't harass Tiffany. I leave Tiffany alone. Tiffany was good sport. I let Tiffany know I was going to talk about her. Speak about her, but I didn't talk about her. There's a few things I did not like, but Tiffany, we need to mute you. You test up in the background. Tiffany, it's a pretty woman, man. I bet if we can get that feminism up out of her, boy. She gonna get that third. Tell you what, I think Tiffany gonna be made by the end of next year. Third and final marriage, trust me. Invite me to the wedding, Tiff. Y'all to check out her channel. She can walk it down the channel. Hi, Tiff. Put your channel in the chat room, Tiff. Tell you, man, she looks like a Houston chick too, man. I love your lips.   Hi. Hey, now. How's it going? Uh-uh, I'm good. How'd I mess up? What'd I do wrong? I don't know how you messed up. I joined Zoom a while ago and then I just found your channel due to your frangering stuff and I didn't know you did these types of videos, so I was just in the chat. I know it's crazy, right? Who would've thunk it? No, no, I was only talking about just, I think you said something about like prosperity preaching or whatever and I was just like, yeah, a lot of the church nowadays is very, you know, just trying to pacify people, so it's pretty sad.  I do. And you found me through fragrance videos? Yeah, I was looking for a oud fragrance and I think you had a video about Gucci and Tintz oud, but I couldn't find it, so I went with awkward department oud. Okay. So on your channel, there was just like other stuff and... Gucci and Tintz oud is great. It's back now. The problem was pretty rich. Oh, I didn't know. I'm like done buying fragrance for a while now. Right. So I'm just gonna keep it cute. Are you trying, now, are you trying to get, okay, are you trying to get married one of these days, Evelyn? Sure, yeah. Is it Evelyn? Evelyn, yeah. My name on here is Evelyn.  So you're trying, are you here in the States? I am. Cool. How old are you? I'm 27. Uh-oh. 27 to 35, that means marrying age. So let me see if I can help you get, let me see if I can help you find you a Blake Henry. Let me see if I can do, I mean, I mean, my channel, Guy and Speaker of my channel are not the same guys. A lot of these guys wanna be our relationship. They wanna meet marriage in public, but they really do, so a lot of most of them anyway. So, all right. So do you have any kids? No. Yay, keep it that way. Yeah, no, I married before I carry. There you go. No babies gives you opportunity. Did you go to college? I have, yes. Did you graduate? Yes. Don't be nervous, don't, and don't look at the chat room, please don't look at the chat room. They crazy. No, I'm not. They crazy in there. All right, I ask this question to everybody, height, weight, and dress size. But you can tell me your height and dress size, if that's better. I'm five, eight, and I am a six. Uh-oh. How often do you wear heels? Um, I wear heels pretty often. I mean, not during quarantine, because, you know. You're not doing quarantine. Girl, I want you to get, I want you to wear heels, going to the store. I'm not going to the grocery store in high heels. Oh, yes, you are. Oh, oh, no, no, no. This.  Tiffany, will you come tell her to put on some heels, going to the Whole Foods, try, let me see that. Okay, Whole Foods is different. But see, this is what I did. I did a show talking about black style, where I actually, I did a, go check out the show I styled black women. I was a couple of weeks ago, and there were several women in there with like five, eight, and high hair. And I, and one of the things I told all of them, I need you to take off the pants, put on the dress, skirts, and heels. Yeah, it doesn't make a difference. I wear heels pretty often. It's just, I mean, working from home now is a bit different. So I love working, and before the Rona came, I would always wear like a dress or a skirt to work with like work heels, but not like high, high heels, because the work is not, it's not it for all that. What city are you in? I'm in Washington, so Seattle? Seattle, and Seattle has something, Seattle loves my show. Seattle has some of the most successful brothers on the planet. So, if you're looking to get married, you're in a place where more Keith Henrys are.  Are you on dating apps? What's going on? I'm not actively dating anyone. I'm not a fan of dating apps. Okay, talk to me before Corona happened. Before Corona happened, before Corona happened, I wasn't actively dating. Before the Rona was March, yeah, I wasn't actively dating. I was more so just focused on myself really. I really wanted to make sure that I was like, you know, doing a lot of self-development before I put myself out there more.  Yeah. Well. So I guess I was more intermediates. I wasn't like an active like super-dater, like who's over here and who's over there? That's not really my style. Well, the women who abuse, like if you're serious about finding a husband, you gotta get seriously active about dating. But that's the thing, it's like I'm, I feel like I'm at that age where I'm not into the club anymore, really. So it's like, especially in a place like Seattle where, you know, non, I mean, Seattle's a big city, but it's not like a New York or LA, but I feel like I'm just trying to find new hobbies that are more for meeting new people, but also enjoying new activities that's outside of, oh, it's a birthday and come out with us, or we're having this dinner at this cute little swanky one. Do you wanna work for a living? When you get married, do you wanna work? No. I'm pretty sure. So if you watch my channel. I'm a newbie to your channel. Okay, so I talk about the Henry's. High earner's not rich yet. Brad Lee, Keith, Erika, Ahmed, Brad Lee, Ahmed, Keith, and Erika. Keith is the black brother. So the Keith, Henry, let's be honest, to not have to work on the West Coast and to live the kind of life most black women want to live, I talk about a man making about $325,000, $350,000 a year.  All right, all right. So those kind of men aren't going to clubs or anything else. Those guys, when they looking for a wife, they do some very specific things. One, a lot of these guys use matchmakers. Okay. They're not on dating apps. They're not, and that's why I say, but they aren't Whole Foods. The chances of running across one of these guys is slim to none because they're working 12, 10, 12, 16 hour days. You're gonna find, if you were to find one of them organically, it would be at the local high-end bar at Ruth Chris or at a high-end steakhouse. How often do you frequent these places alone and go sit at the bar and have dinner? I would say before the Rona, pretty frequently, not so frequently, like once a week or whatever, but I wouldn't, well, I'm not really a Ruth Chris person up here, but you know what I mean, that kind of stuff. There's that kind of hospitality here that I would go to for like 1100. Well, that kind of stuff, that kind of stuff, but that's the easy stuff. That's the common stuff.  No, so that's really at a stage I'm at now. Like I'm trying to find more extracurricular stuff so I don't get caught in the rut of like, work home, work home. Well, let me go ahead and put, you need to join my Facebook group. It's called The Mix. I'll put a link down in the description, but there's some things when I talk to women, I will always say this, high value men, when they're ready, it is six months or less. From the day he meets you to the day you're down in aisle, it don't take forever. I also agree with that. So, and being in Seattle, where so many, Seattle's one of the top 10 cities for high value black men, so they're there and it's happening, you just have to end up being in a position to be able to find one of these guys or have them find you. Matchmakers, image consultants, personal trainers are your friends. That's how I kind of got into this because I work with matchmakers, and now I do, and personal trainers. Because you gotta ask yourself, if you're a high value man, he's out there looking for a wife, he's gonna pick the, he has a lot of options. Why is he gonna pick you? And if you're a part of the American Heart Association, the Circle of Red, the Junior League, you're involved civically, it says a hell of a lot more than just being hot sitting at the bar. Right, yeah, that's the thing. The whole sitting at the bar thing, it's a fine dance, because I don't like, I don't mind going to the steak houses. I mean, it's a fun thing to do if I'm just hungry, but at the same time, I personally would rather go like during the day or like times where it doesn't seem like I'm paid by the hour, I just don't, I just feel like- Now, what do you go to?  My church is black. This is something that's gonna happen.  I'm gonna switch up churches. It's a small church, though. It's not like- I'm gonna switch up church. No, you go, where's the big, where's the Joe Osteen kind of church in Seattle? Seattle's very like not, I mean, Washington in general is very secular. Like it's not that religious. Yeah, well, my ultimate, okay, my point is everything at that level is about finding, a man at that level.  Finding him at a mega church in Seattle, he's there for business and God. A lot of business gets done in mega church.  That's what I lean a lot of you ladies to understand.  When they go to church, they're going to church to also to be able to say, hey, there's Bob and Bob is over there. He's on the board or so-and-so. And I met him at church versus I'm trying to get an appointment with him. So yeah, join my Facebook group. And when you apply, turn on your application, all you need is your age. You have to have a profile picture and then I'll let you in. But yeah, keep watching. It's interesting over here. All right. It is, it's funny. All right then. Thank you Kevin. Bye-bye. Yeah, y'all leave Tiffany alone. She a good sport. Tiffany, you gonna get on? Tiffany like, I don't want to get on. See, I knew Tiffany would be a good sport. I didn't know about the woman in the middle. I figured she'd probably be a little hostile. But you know, I don't know that woman. There was something, I wasn't right about some of the stuff that we were going back and forth with. But at the end of the day, black Christian feminists, feminism, this equal, ladies, if you're a Christian woman, the notion of equality and women's rights is at odds with what you say you believe. Yeah, Tiffany looks nice. Yeah, keep it respectful guys. There's somebody that's the pastor's daughter and somebody's ex-wife and somebody's mother. But yeah, I had to say, yeah. No simping in the pimping, but I was like, yeah. And even though woman in the middle, the second woman, Danny, she's not a bad looking woman. Nope. I mean, I have my type. I like fine. So at the end of the day, I can't believe churches are like that. Man, they are. I swear to God, I swear if we could just like exercise the words, take prosperity out and started preaching some more of old school gospel. Da-dee-nu. You know, the pastor with the toupee and the sweating, you need to hear it.  You need to hear something wrong. Everything ain't right. It can't be sunshine. Christianity light is there to get you to give more money. When they only preaching from certain parts, when you don't get to the Old Testament, when all they preach from is the New Testament, I mean, I understand we're under the New Covenant, but if you never get to like the revelations and say, if you ever gone to a church where they preach out the Old Testament of revelations, you walk out of church shaking and shit like, oh Lord.  You're doing some work. Because you know how you went to a prosperity church. Let me tell you how you went to a prosperity church. Oh, I'm just going to be so bad. Oh, sweet Jesus. I've seen people getting down in the parking lot after service. Because the prosperity church has got big parking lots. Oh, you see a car way over there moving.  What it is. Oh, what's up? What's up? Oh, yeah, give me your number and I'll call and I'll follow that in the mall, in the mall. But see, I ain't going to lie, man.   And you know you're Christian when you're like, oh, I'm having some worldly thoughts right now. Because girl, oh, I would just tell sweet Jesus the things I would do to you. Thank you, Jesus. Especially like on a July and it's hot. You're going to morning service. You get to get something to eat afterwards. And you got to put you got the newborn. So you got to wait for the baby to take that nap and she didn't have boy y'all in there getting afternoon delight on the Sunday boy. Holy Jesus. He hitting them high notes. Yes. Yes. Maybe black folks should switch to Catholicism. It's start on time. You get out on time. They burn incense. It's kind of like being at a club. But yeah, man, you know, I often tell guys, there are a lot of beautiful women in church, but the problem is here's the word. Here's how a lot of this has happened. College is a carrier virus for a lot of this, this equality talk. And it's not as though there's not some arguments to be made to write injustices. But if men are leaving churches and colleges and universities, what are the what's happening as to why men are leaving? You ask men why they're leaving because it's anti male. Guys are tired of hearing that toxic and masculine and aggressive and bashing and this and that. That's how to hear and all that. Women who talk about all this and keep it going on in their mainstream, they don't look like you. They're going home. They're going to get their bread. They're going to flip it up and be like Cassie Jane. Be like, oh yeah, I was a feminist and I decided I'm not going to do that. I need a husband. Yeah. Let's see what's going on in the chat room. Men are separating this unbalanced environment. So all right, guys, I'm going to get up off of here. Thank you guys tuning in. Thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you to the first woman who's been a good sport about a lot of this. You know, I'm quite sure she does not like me. But yeah, it's okay. I still try to be respectful. Thank you to Danny for being a good sport too. You know, there was definitely some things that I found troubling about some of the things you said, but you know, I wouldn't. She wouldn't date me. I wouldn't date her. What I want to say, high value men, ladies, Danny, they're not fools. So anybody who is making that kind of income. Who is not producing who's not talking about serious unions. He's just trying to play. Y'all are playing each other. Because there's somebody's playing.  I was laughing. I was saying to Tiffany. Tiffany. I was like, yeah, Tiffany could. She's like, daddy, okay, I'm going to do it. What I'm supposed to do. Okay, I'm going to quit. Okay. I'm going to give back my feminist starter kit. Show. Okay. All right. Good. Okay. I'm going to stop over talking. I'm going to do what I know. I'm going to do it. Yep. Yeah, mama. I'm going to do what you said, what you told me. Yeah, grandma. I'm going to do. Yeah, I hear you from heaven. I'm going to do it. Okay.  Oh, I liked the way he put me in check. That's all it takes. That's all it takes. See, mama like her, I'd be like, what happened to Tiffany? She's a whole new woman. What happened? Girl, he got that curve. Really? I don't know what it is you do with her, but you got him.  Gloria Ghanum. She didn't make a garage sale. So long that I will survive. And you know, I am woman. Here we roll. She didn't got rid of all that.  Just all that. Her sorority sister be like, yes, she's all pink and green out and she's just walking around here. Little sassy. Can't tell her nothing when she on the way to region's a bootleg. She just on cloud nine. What happened to her? She getting a good, good from that man who took. He didn't. He didn't. Yeah, you can't be a weak guy like that and see my problem. I'll be honest. Where I failed in my relationships is I like pretty women and I was not the man I needed to be to maintain frame. And that was a mistake on my part. Forget her. It was a mistake on my part. This is why I am so against getting comfortable, getting content, because that's not what we should be doing as men. But again, as a guy who was not raised by a father, I made more mistakes than I feel like I would have had to make had I had the father that I wanted. So it's for me to tell other guys, look, you can still become the man you need to be and then pass the baton on to the next one. That's all I'm asking you ladies to do is if you know what's not working, tell ladies what does work and don't sugarcoat it. Let them decide. But I believe that anybody who's willing to do the work in life can win. But it has to be the work first. See, black folks, we prize youth and a lot of our successful people are in entertainment and athletics. So we think life is over after 30. Oh, no. Life is just starting for a man at 40. And yes, I've been you guys have heard me talk about our date women. I prefer to date younger women, but that's not that's not a hard and fast rule.  Nothing is absolute in human beings except your principles and your standards as a man. Those are absolutes then enough fine to get me to change what I think I'll pass up fine. And that's something a lot of guys when you get to that point where you can pass over fine, no matter how fine she is, whatever you know, I'd rather go down and looks to go up in cooperation. Once you get there, then you can actually go back up and looks because they realize they can't use that pretty privilege on you anymore. Pretty rich. We're going to do two more shows as submission losing and the problems with the problems are being the problems are being pretty pretty problems. Pretty has some problems. Pretty women have problems. Believe it or not, pretty women have problems. They just slip your most guys don't see the problems of pretty women. Yep. If you missed today's live stream on Patreon, I'm going to only do the short person ever. I'm going to do an elongated portion to complete this one. But today was a good stream. Shout out to Andre Hatchet. You'll find it's cool. But the other stuff is the most. That's right. That's right. That's right. At the end of the day, man, I just want you to be I don't want to see I put this way. I be damned.  You don't want to die alone. This is the latest CV taught everybody else. You got you to realize, you know what all this stuff was cool. But, you know, maybe I do need to go ahead and live that, live that, live that, live that, live that, live that. Nikia, what's going on? Peter sister. What's up? We all die alone. Yeah. Robert Albert. Why? Let me go ahead and see what you talking about. Some of y'all guys just come through here just to just. God, then what other colors in your sky? Jesus Christ. I really wonder, man, it's like any of some of you guys ever happy? I mean, seriously, God, what are y'all it's like, are you only happy when you're being sarcastic or down or whatever? How often do you guys smile? It was the last time you actually had a good time around people. It was the last time you sat down at a meal with a group of men and women and actually ate good, had a belly laugh. We're going to do it Friday. Because we're going to watch Love Jones and the Mix. Oh, yeah, by the way, the Mix, my Facebook group, the Mix. It is not for everybody. Only if you are or can be cool around a group of like minded men and women. So here it is. You will need a profile picture, your age, current mental status which is looking for and your YouTube alias. There you go. Think about Facebook, Facebook LinkedIn level kind of stuff. And here's the fan page. I have to get out of here. So what is that one chick that came through here? If at the end it says you will become one flesh. Go ahead and believe that if you want to. Go ahead. Keep trying to be literal about it. How that work out for you. I'm not debating it with you anymore. Believe what you want. Dialogue. Enjoy it. Enjoy it. What was that one chick that came through here? Napa auto parts. Is Napa auto parts in here? Let me see. Napa auto parts are you here? Napa Napa auto parts. She was in here the other day. Napa auto parts. What's her name? She's cute too. She got that little deep raspy voice. I think she's born in those pro black women and I'm like wow. We're going to talk about pretty. Pretty privilege. Such a waste of pretty. Don't waste pretty. What did I type the other day? What did I type the other day? I type something in there about such a waste of pretty. Don't waste that. Such a waste of pretty. Do I have acknowledged super chats? If I see them going. Is there one I need to check yours? Sorry Taylor. When shows are going on sometimes it's too much going on and YouTube has changed the system. I haven't been able to do a lot of stuff today. YouTube has changed the studio so we can't see a lot of the stuff we used to. What's the question Taylor? What is the question Taylor? Because I can't go back and I can't see some of this stuff. That's why I was late starting the show because they changed the studio and everything else. So if I missed it. I don't see your question. So. My bad.   No man I don't cut my hair. Why am I going to cut my own hair man? Pay people to do that stuff for you man. No. Let me see if I can find it this way. They've shut studio down. There's no way to find any of this stuff. Sorry Taylor. I can't find it. They've shut the studio down and they kept showing an error earlier so we're doing our best. It's not as though I don't want to read. But I will say that once a channel starts to have a certain amount of live viewers once you get over like 500 live viewers it becomes really hard to keep up with the chat. I couldn't turn chat on slow mode either. So that's why I didn't say anything. So anyway at the end of the day guys have a good day. I'm up out here. Peace. We are gone. Tiffany join the group. Join the mix. You know she'd be fun in there. They're gonna come in here throwing bombs. They're gonna come in there throwing perfume bombs. Hi. I am fit tiff. Perfume bomb. Join me on Patreon. Thames Monday, 6 30 eastern standard time. These two more videos this week dropping. Thank you to the Patreons for making this happen. Thank you to all of your Elginillig videos and live streams you will see only in the fat room. Yeah baby submit your video request topic ideas there. 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