Let's go. Boss. Don't talk, man. Boss. On Boss Talk 101. 101.  We be on fire, we be lively. Yeah. It's a unique hustle.     It's a unique hustle.     Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Well, we gonna talk about, man, we gotta go out here today. Y'all, I really don't need any introduction. He's been on the show before, man. He help us your student though, man, he's going down the day, man. We've got my boy Fat Pimp in the building. You poop the egg so it's on the inside. Man, everybody say that, man. They sell it, man. Say, man, a lot of niggaz been trying to. Man, who is, who's the last person that really just not remained on his account cuz he always messing with me? Right. It was somebody that was like, man. Show us. It was shows. Show. Who is that, man? She's like, man, that thing going in. He actually went and looked to rub just because of it. Because you know, it's still on the show.  I peep my head, I can shout at you on there, man. So, yeah, shout next time. But the crazy thing is that everybody who come on here, we always give them the opportunity to make us an intro song. Say, hey, step up to the plate, make an intro song. If it's good, we'll put it on. Everybody's like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do that. Ain't nobody done it. It's gonna be like power. I was wanting two people done it, but it didn't come through. But it didn't come close to the inside. See, I want one? Nah, I mean, it's hard. I told you, I need that. It's hard, bro. It's hard, right? Pretty sweet. We want one. We would love to eventually change it or have an upgrade. Cause we have others in there, but we just love that one. We always play that one. My boy, my boy went hard on this one.   This song command home ain't nothing but some boss talk. I can get my hands on the word on this. That's PJM shout, buddy. I like that. Boss talk. I thought you might've think this came from him. I wrote the trench. I got this side of the kitchen. You gonna go down through that. I like that. I like that.  And that's the rest of the show and best friend, man. So when he came down, man, it was just organic. He was like, man, I got, he made boss talk and he was on his way here, man. And he was promoted and everything. It was like, it just fit. It just fit. So that's the dope part, man. So, man, you know, the way we do, man, we just trying to show love, man. That's what, how we been doing, man. Y'all should use that one like for special interviews. We do it sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just sometimes. It was hard. You know, they be going, man. Cause it's real gangster, man. You know what I'm saying? It just lives a different way, man. So how you been, man? I've been great. Ain't gonna say good or okay, I've been great, man. I'm surviving, coaching baseball. Coaching baseball? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, you know, when the person say coaching something, I think about that guy who got killed the other week on their own. Coach Mike, Coach Mike. You knew him? Yeah, I'm Dallas, but I know everybody. So you knew Coach Mike. Yeah, I knew Coach Mike. What type of guy was he? Solid, man. He raised some kids right, man. Really? Yeah. I ain't got nothing wrong. How long had he been doing it? I couldn't even tell you, bro. I just had kids. So I don't know how long he been doing it, but me having the kids, you met him. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Do you know exactly what happened? I don't know.  I got a group text with everybody from Houston. And somebody was like, yo, have you been on the internet? And they said, check your phone. So I looked and I seen it. I don't like watching stuff like that. Yeah. So when I seen it, it just made my heart melt because I've been out there in situations. We was in Oklahoma and got into it with the other team. We got into it with the refs. It happens. You know what I mean? It happens. That's why you have to be level here. You got to understand it's just sports, man. It's just pee-wee sports. But it shouldn't get to that extent where you can feel like you're gonna pull out a firearm. And if you are that hot headed, don't carry the firearm with you out there. Leave it in the car or leave it somewhere else. Plus we from the old school, man. Even if y'all did get physical, y'all could've fought in the parking lot. Y'all could've fought in the parking lot. Y'all could've waited y'all seen each other somewhere else. The fact that y'all damaged these kids for the rest of their lives. Somebody might not even wanna be out there to be scared to go out there. I can't stand on that, man. No, and you know what the thing about it is, man.  I kind of went with my boy, Kwan. He coached too, Kwan, he be over here a lot and he's grew up around me. And that's where he went to try to, you know, make things a little bit easier for him out here instead of getting in these streets. Because when it didn't have to. It ended up being more street over there. Let me tell y'all something about football in Texas. Really Dallas, I'm gonna say Houston too, but Dallas is competitive. And then you gotta understand you dealing with hood mentality, people that's been in the streets they whole entire life. And now they out here coaching boys if they wanna see go to the pros, it's dangerous, man. And I heard some betting going on too. I don't know nothing about it. I'm just telling you, I heard it. Now I'm watching these news. Hey listen, I'm just like. You know me, I'm gonna be out there so I be telling it to you. I don't know nothing, I don't know nothing.  They better not be out there betting on them kids, man. I'm a coach, man. I don't know nothing. But you know what, it's every sport. Like if you spend money in investing in your child, some of these parents take it serious because you said that show that came on the cheerleading show. Yeah. And those moms would go in at it, they'll be fighting, arguing over, my daughter needs to this, my daughter. And I'm like, is it that serious? A lot of people living, a lot of people living in their fantasies and dreams. Through their children. Through their children. Right. And so they trying to go above me on and a little too aggressive. If you really ask these kids, they don't even wanna do that. Right. Most of your kids in football practice, they talking about Fortnite. They a dancing. And. Girls. Yeah, girls. And we'll see, it depends, you know. They just never know. Damn. You never know, man. Damn. I was out there helping coach, right after the year of the pandemic was letting up where they let the kids play again. And I realized coaching football ain't for me. I got a partner that coach that said, they're football ain't for me, man. Because it's true. Why? Because I see how easy it is to lose your cool. Yeah. Because if you know something, if they being full gazey with the refs and stuff, it ain't for me. At baseball, I play at baseball and it's so peaceful. I get out there. It's easier. Aw, man. You get out there. I'm the only one who's aggressive on a baseball. They don't want your parents to be out there. They just be quiet. They don't even say nothing to their kids. They just sit there and just, hey, have a good game. Damn. They don't say nothing to after the game. So it's us.  Niggas. Niggas, niggas. It ain't the Blacks, it's niggas. I don't even like calling us niggas, but it's a difference on the football field.  I got to ask you about, you know, different things, man. Zero, man. I just heard Slim Thug, he gave a little, you know, what he said though, out there.  We're label mates. Yeah, y'all label mates too, and y'all manager too. How does that, how did you, when you first seen it, cause you just from the outside looking in like me, cause that's, they on the, what side they on? They on the south side. And they, you know, that's a different world. But when you see something like that happen, what goes through your mind when you see something? Cause I hadn't, you really don't see that like that a lot, bro. I'm not even gonna answer it politically correct. My manager didn't try to like, you know, control what I say, but I'm gonna keep it real, which it hurt, it hurt watching it. Not because two men came fight because it hit the internet. You dig what I'm saying? That's the boy, that's it. I've told people before, Rose, Rose, one of the people I idolized, somebody that I got the game from. Me being from Texas, it hurt. I don't wanna see that. What they got going on is the family business that's between them.  I hate how the fact that people pick up their phone every time there's something going on. I don't like that, so. I'm trying to just stay out there business, man. I don't really wanna say too much because anything I say nowadays can get. It can get thrown a whole new thing.  I don't really got too much to say on that. But the funny thing is like, but the funny thing is like, for how I look on things, I love the fact that people are being more transparent. They talk about their feelings. They say what's on their mind. Yes, it can get you in trouble when people twist and turn it and not understand what you really mean. That's why a lot of times, honestly, when you say things, you have to almost darn, like explain yourself before you even finish saying what you're saying just so that it won't get misconstrued in a different way. Yes, because nowadays, majority of people are not gonna understand what your point is. I don't care what you say. I can tell you it's raining outside like cats and dogs. It might be somebody say, oh, you're disrespecting the dogs. You're disrespecting the cats. You didn't even know what I'm saying, you just don't know. So I'm with that situation. It's pretty tough, man. I do know that Trey, with the way that things are looked at upon the way that he moved for the city, the way it's perceived, it's not a good look for any confrontation to come toward the stuff that he does because it's somewhat taunts it, put somewhat of a strike against, especially to our white constituencies. We already look a mess out here. And then, you know, for to even be caught up in any situation where it may even, even if you didn't have none, just to be around stuff sometime, association by, you know, assimilation, it just basically makes you look a certain way. So I know that he's not good with that because of all the work that he seems to try to be involved in. When it came down to Harvey, I remember sending water down there and doing stuff through branding him and trying to get stuff done. And he was one of the main guys that was running around with that. Or if somebody, you know, he was pulling up on different situations. But that look that we've seen on the video does not really, you know, parallel the look of being one that gives and a community provider and a community activist. You know what I mean? But at the same time, you gotta think about this. We're all human beings. We are human beings. And we all make mistakes. You know, things do happen. So we should always have a leeway of, you know, okay, well, that's a oops. Let's go ahead and brush it off. Move on, start doing back here, you know, community. The only thing is just when people are humiliated openly, it's a hard appeal to swallow. So I understand where you coming from. When you say you hate to see the phones out because now it's everywhere. And now people are gonna be sharing it. It could become a meme like that Michael Jordan meme or whatever where you just always being played with because of that. You know what I mean? The one deep song and it's all kinda stuff that people will do with that. So, you know, I don't know, you know, I've met Trey, you see him on the wall, but I never met zero. But I definitely noticed a Texas thing and basically being in Texas. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you like this, man. And I'm gonna say this on the camera. I'm staying out of it. But at the end of the day, there's H-Time business and I'm gonna just let the Moji's handle that. Exactly. Whatever I say, it's gonna be taken the wrong way. Wrong way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, definitely. And be clear, I've come from there fighting there or something like that's not what bothers me. You know what I'm saying? Fighting, we can punch that right now and be breathing hard, you know what I mean? Get past it, but at the end of the day, I'm not in that man's shoes. Exactly. Well, one thing I can say about it, man, the music, when I listened to that song that you guys did together, how did y'all come up with that whole song and how did y'all, I know he's your label mate, but the water ratchet, like how did y'all come up with that whole concept? So Derek McKinney, who's my manager right now at H-Time, been knowing him for years. He's been helping me when I was, me and Ronnie was dealing with dirty water, but he came to me one day and was like, hey, you know what, we got a show, two of a job, not a show, we got a two of a job rule.  Start rocking out with him. Start doing some songs.  We're gonna do a group. We're gonna got a group, all direction. I'm like, yeah, okay. First I was a little skeptical, right? He do business a little different than me. I'm used to going to the studio, dropping the club records, boom, boom, boom. Blowing up, he more like, no, no, no. We're gonna strategically do this, COVID hit.  I'm putting the project out, so we had to wait. Then Mrs. was waiting. We start working on most songs. He said, you know what, we're gonna put a zero on this. Reach out to Ro, do the business right. Ro did the song, then it was real cold in Houston. He said, let's do the video. So I'm like, all right, babe, we did the video. Ro showed up, you know, Ro ain't gonna show for everybody if he doesn't show it up. Next, you know, we started getting traction with the Ardoradget. The tour started opening up. Now the first day we had was, I wanna say, what's in May? Is it Memorial weekend? Yeah, Memorial weekend. We opened up for Coral Ray. We opened up for Lil Durk, Two Chain. We go so hard, they like, yo, we need to put y'all on the rest of the tour. So I started rockin' out with them. Next thing you know, I'm on MTV Jam, B.T. Jams, we on B.T. Jams with that video. Next thing you know, we on tour with Snoop. We gone tour with Snoop for two weeks. Then we on tour with The Baby. We did four shows with him. Now we on the road, Gucci, Maine, Down in Corpus, Trap Boy, Freddie, Yellow Beazy, BFG Strap, they all down there. So now we got legs gone. So it's like, all right, cool. Making a little noise. We still ain't dropped the album yet. Everybody keep asking me, when you get new Fat Pimp music? I don't need Fat Pimp right now because there's a whole new rebranding process going on.  So next thing we do, we drop this new Red Car Sneaking Link. Yeah, I see now. Now we got Big Bink back in 97.9. Yeah, yeah. So it's a whole new game changer because Hollywood Zay is telling him, hey, we need to rock the Ardoradget. They from Texas and we support it. Now I'm on the radio again. Dope, dope. How does it feel to be back on the radio? I broke down. Ain't no cap broke down when, not hearing it the first time, but just being in the car and getting a phone call and my son is like, pops you on the radio. I'm like, okay, cool. So it's like, you on the radio again. I'm like, for real, you listening to it? Then you get my mama hearing it. That's like the greatest feeling when you feel like you are. When your family returns. Yeah, after all the work that you put in. But it's never enough, bro, because we live in a society now you kind of want that gratification now. You want to feel the internet love. You want to feel people recording when they're in the cars, but when my son tripped out, they heard me on the radio. Oh yeah, it was good, man. And then 97.9, they not playing the other Dallas music. Can't want to phone them not playing the other Dallas music. So to me, I'm not too long on, but it's an accomplishment because now I'm in the era of, they can say no. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that's a blessing, man. And shout out to 97.9. Man, that's a good chance. So man, 97.9 in Houston. Yeah, because every time I look on the internet, because I'd be scrolling through to see what's going on, what's new, all of that. I see you everywhere. I see you working like crazy. When I be looking up other people to interview, you friends with everybody. I don't have no problem with nobody. When you call me, it was this morning, I have zero problems with nobody because as hard as it is, I try to stay neutral. I preach to people when I talk to them. There was something going on. I try to preach to them. I got a good rapport with everybody. I did the big three with Ice Cube. I saw that. I was about to ask you about that. Yeah, and so. How did you get that gig? Tony Drape. Okay. Tony Drape. I haven't heard that name in a long time, man. Really been doing it, man. Like doing the big three with Ice Cube. Hanging out with Ice Cube. Yeah, man. I interviewed Mr. Mike a while back, and he talked about Tony Drape. Oh, a gig, man. Yeah. Man, that's a good people. We was trying to do some business together a couple of years back. It didn't work, but we kept a good relationship. This girl named Vesti. She had a Houston, Nigerian chick. And she was like, yo, I'm in a meeting with Draper. I got something for you. And I would get a phone call from my man.   Live on CBS. Got to meet Ice Cube. How was that? The first time I went up to him, I was shitting bricks, man, because I'm like, this is cute, man. He could easily brush me off. You know, he's so paid, he don't really need to meet nobody else, but he was cool. He was like, man, I heard your name a couple of years back, and I get to put a name on the face. I like the music. He said he actually did his homework on me. It's like, cool. Because he knew he was going to perform. Right. After we got through performing, I'm backstage. He come up to me and said, take some pics. I'm like, cool. He said, I just got the phone with your cousin. I said, who? He said, E40. So I'm like, damn. Oh, he know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't have to tell him that. Yeah, no, he ain't tell him nothing. He did his research, research. Yeah, but E40, so solid, like if I tell him I'm on the road, Snoop, or tell him I'm on the road, somebody that's his partner, like Cube Snoop is his partner. So I told him I'm doing it with Cube, he had hit him up. That's love. I didn't hit him with Snoop, though. I dropped a ball on the Snoop. Yeah, did he find out afterwards? Yeah, but the thing about it was Snoop's team, they like, very protective of him.   That was cool. That was cool. I wanted to kick it with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I didn't even get a picture, I couldn't even get a picture with him. No picks, no picks, because it was like, it's like everybody else who on tours, on this side of the arena, he got his own. Wow. Man, you know, we've been having a lot of people come on, man. Sometimes people.  Listen, man, it's been so crazy, man. We had, we had, you that say, say cheese done chief dilemma that went on over here, man. Some people say that done chief is a legend. Some people say that he's, you know, he's disgruntled.  No, you just give him the platform. I'm like, nigga, whatever, man.  Cause somebody say, like, if you say this or that, and like you just said, oh no, I'm not speaking, that's cool. But if you speak on somebody and then you gotta know that that person might end up on there saying something back to say, hey, man, you know, yeah, nigga. You know what I'm saying? You can't be one sided, especially when you say you're trying to be neutral. Neutral, you see, neutral for me is like, if I know two people that are into it, I'm not taking that side. No. If you ask me some questions, like I don't care what you ask, I'ma give it to you, Rob. Yeah, yeah, no. So you talking about like that situation? Yeah, like, do you think, who was wrong in that situation? I don't think chief was wrong. I think chief was a legend. I think people gotta understand, you had a pocket for discreting anybody who gave the platform, the teeth, Dallas niggas, how to do music. Yeah. Gotta stay out of jail hustling and doing the music he did both. Like people gotta get that man his flowers. And if he irritated about it, that's just what it is. You can't tell another man how to not to feel. Yeah, but when you think about the fact of some saying chief not working no more like that and they, you know, feel like, you know, you know, why would they post him if he don't have the music to back it up? What chief has to do is chief has to connect with the youngsters and show him how they stay relevant. That's how I had to learn. I got tic-tac now. My son tell me if it's wack. So you like this? Because the end of the day, you don't wanna get lost in the South. You don't wanna be another old nigga that ain't really putting out nothing that's relatable. Because the niggas that was our fans 10, 15 years ago, they ain't on the internet. They not coming out, downloading your music and streaming your music.  So do you, with Sean, the way he, did he do anything wrong? Why not putting chief back on this? Hell yeah, I think so. I think- Why? Because this is what I feel. I feel that anytime you mention something about Dallas at some point you gotta have respect for the OGs. You don't gotta respect all of it, but you gotta have a platform to say, you know what, if this is a Dallas based platform, show some love to chief or tell chief how he can get his shit to go. Yeah.  It's like, you helped that man out. Did it mean helping to understand why? Man, it's not about helping to understand why. Show him the direction. You did what I'm saying, teach him, because we didn't have social media when he was out. You know what I'm saying? It's a whole different ballgame now.   I'm just gonna show you how to do it. So do you think because he did that early on the interview for Sean when he didn't have to, you feel like Sean should at least gave him the respect to say, hey man, this how you need to link from here on out.  A lot of people watch that platform. He been on here a couple of times. When you look at like Sean basically having a platform like he got Bill in it up, you think Dallas had a lot to do with that foundational bill for him? Yeah. I did interviews early on with Sean too.   Why? Because I was calling his phone, calling his phone, calling his phone and he wasn't answering. He say he working on that. Yeah, but that's to me, working on. He does that to everybody. Right, but you gotta understand son, we come from the era, if you don't, if you don't want me calling your phone, just answer the phone, say, hey, I'm busy.  That's the clip they ran with on the internet. Oh damn. Cause somebody say, why was you so mad? I said, cause I'm in a meeting with Atlantic Records and they're like, do you know Sean Cotton? I'm like, yeah, I know him from the column. Boom, get to Houston. Kia didn't need his number. I'm blowing his phone up. He didn't answer, but I text him on his birthday and he responded. So I kind of harbor those, you know, right?  They ran with it and then young niggas told me up in the comments. Yeah. Because they don't let you- They say you old and disgruntler. Well, they ain't calling me disgruntler.   I come from the air. I don't know if I told you that story about PMC. He said, if somebody your nigga, you should be able to call him on the phone. If they pick up the phone, they show nigga. I didn't say it a lot of days. He told, he told my nigga Bido about short dog.  PMC was one of them people. So I stand on those principles. My problem was I shouldn't have said it on the interview. I should have just waited till I seen Sean and said, yo, did I do something wrong?  You know what I'm saying? You really don't care. Did you have a chance to talk with Sean and tell him, tell him, hey, man.   I shouldn't have called him the ho-ass nigga. What I should have did was, waited till I seen him and asked him like, yo, why you don't pick up the phone? Cause you know what happened next? My wife was watching Big D, the mogul. Yeah, Big D. He said, what's your biggest problem? He said, man, answering the phone.  And that's why when I seen him, I seen him right here, he said too far. He said he don't hear. But I don't, it ain't no smoking on me. And Sean, I think of me and Sean, we probably laugh.  It hurt me because them young niggas was in my inbox. They don't play by Sean, man. They been on Tifa by Sean. Like they, yeah, he got a hell of a following. You know, I, I'm gonna be honest with you.  I always look at that. She know how I am. I don't play about it. I'm a check on you. I check on everybody.  I think he ain't gonna answer. So I'll be like, I'll text him and say, man, you good, man, keep pushing. I don't want nothing back, but I'm just saying, hey, cause not only him, I've been friends with a lot of people like certain people that left here and became multimillionaires out of this store. And they didn't answer the phone a lot of times, but then they came on my platform and it was like, I respect you so much because when I was playing ball and I was here, you, you didn't, you would always just check on me. You never did.  So, and so he got it. You know what I mean? So that's the way I look at Sean as well. To be real, it's a new generation and they deal mental health differently. We was coming up, even your mom was having a bad day at work.  You don't just be like, you know what, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna just click out. I'm out of there. I'm just not gonna answer the phone, shut down.  We from the old school, you had to deal with it.  That's where we got the drugs that came in the program. Well, one thing you said, well, Sean, should I pull Chief to the side and just say, hey, let me show you how to do this. But I don't know Chief very well. You do. Very well. Is he the type of person that would have listened? Yeah. Or he would have seen you laughing. You laughing, you know, he probably wouldn't have listened. I think this is me personally because me and Chief have been in the studio. I was the first nigga to put Chief on Instagram Live. So it's a good moment. I was the first one. You know what I'm saying? My partner, Squirey Studio, and I put him on Instagram Live. He wasn't really feeling it, but I guarantee you if Sean would have been like, look, my audience don't like this. I'm going to show you how we can use what you got and turn you up.  You know what I'm saying? Like you can't, that's for me. It's like, if I know you can do something and you don't do it, it made me feel like, bro, you don't rock with me. But that's you. That's you.  You know what I mean?  This is, I'm going to just project this in the world. Let's just say when I get this next big hit record, right? I'm doing interviews with people and they start asking me about what's going on in Dallas. So you know, who's the media? Who's really out here putting in work? And I name drop everybody but you. When they ask me about you and I say something like, I don't really know. How would that make you feel? I've been done like that here lately. That's my point. And I just kind of unfollowed the person who went on about my business because he evidently don't want to be involved with what I got going. So it ain't no, it ain't no thing where I don't hate cause I don't know him. I don't really know these people. But at the end of the day, if you, the type of person that you know, you see me showing you love and cause I show love. Like I said, my platform a little different. I'll be showing mad love to niggas. I don't even know just because I feel like nobody shows the love like they should bro. I give you something. Cash Pays did an interview in New York about a year or two years ago. The ladies, all you from Dallas. You heard a trap boy for it and yellow beads and she was like, no, I never really heard of them. They turned her up in the comments. I DM'd on some big brothers. Like, hey, this how you answered them questions. You be like, oh, yeah, yeah, I heard them doing that thing. You know, shout out to them. Because what you doing is you deflecting the hating. Yeah. Even if you don't rock with somebody just be like, oh yeah, I see them doing that thing. Instead of saying, oh, I don't rock with them. I don't really listen to Dallas. Like you never do that. You always try to just.  She needed that. It's because it's the younger gender. When you 18 years old, she was like 18, like a baby. So she don't really know about it. She don't really know. When I watched some of these interviews with a lot of these youngsters on there, especially like the younger women, they're kind of not, they're not timid. They just don't really, they don't really feel like answering a lot of them questions. It's kind of like, they're not interested because nobody's there to tell them like, hey, this is how you answer these questions. Yeah. It takes time. I've made a lot of media mistakes, but going forward, I tell people, hey, answer it like this. Yeah.  Back in the day. Before, yeah. And like teach them how to do these interviews and how to deflect for certain things and all of that. Back in the day, they used to have artist development. That's right. Have y'all seen Lil Baby's new documentary? No. No, but I'm gonna watch it. Okay. I'm just telling y'all. I don't spoil it. I don't spoil it, but I'ma say this. The way he talked to interviews when he did his first interview, and they got the video footage, Shalemaine breaks it down about why it's so hard for street artists to do interviews in the beginning. They lack trust. And you watch Lil Baby do interviews now. He can hold a conversation in the room. So anybody watching this, go check that out. You'll see Lil Baby do a transition. No, we got some dope artists in the Dallas area, man. These guys, man, definitely a dope, but we got dope artists in the South. I pay attention more to the South than anything. That's why I like to be referred to as South. I don't play the Dallas roof. I'm not Dallas artist. No, it's the South for me. I'm South artist. And that's the way, people where I'm coming from, we can't see. We like, we see. We like, we love not. We see people love not, man. So we basically, we trying to carry that legacy on and we know how he looked at it. So you will hear me say stuff like that, but that's why I'm trying to do something to impress the South up. You know what I mean? Because that's the whole game because you got some dope artists down here that don't get that love up on the East or West Coast. So I'll be trying to figure out a way to do that. So you'll see me throw videos up, push people, try to, and I don't know these people, but I just say I got to do this so that people will keep our sight on what we're doing down here since they watching Boss Talk. For sure, man. Man, that's the point. You got to just continue to big them up, man. Yeah, I'm going to do that. Yeah, I'm definitely going to do that. Any chance I get, whether I rock with you, I don't. I can't go by that. Cause a lot of them, like I said, I don't know them. So I can't be mad at somebody. I don't know for not rocking with me. I can't do that. But at the end of the day, if I like them, if I like a song, I don't go by that. I go by, I like that song. I like, you know what I'm saying? That's what I go by if I'm dealing with the music. If I'm dealing with an interview or see somebody, I'm like, I like the way that guy handles the self in the interview. Might not know him, but still showing the mad love. You know what I'm saying? So what's this number one song on Amazon, man? Man, that's called Thick Fine Woman. Thick Fine Woman. Yeah, Charlie Boyd featuring me, Little Ronnie and no shame. Yeah. How'd y'all come up with that? I'm going to keep it a buck, man. It's one of the records with the proves to you that DJs be missing on records a lot of times. Okay. We did this record 2013 or 2014? Yeah. Tick Tock blew it up. Oh, Tick Tock took that thing real well. Yeah, I forgot the girl named who cranked up the dance and it was this dude. We call him working like a Mexican. Yeah. It blew up and he got the white cowboys dancing to it. Really? Yeah, man. Let me tell you something. When these DJs tell you how these records ain't the ones, man, y'all better stop listening and keep pushing them records. Yeah. A lot of the DJs haters, man. Really? A lot of them? Hell yeah, most of them is haters, man.  Yeah, because these labels are calling DJs and they deflecting them plays. So they working with the, with the labels to try them? The same way, the same way Sean cut no rainwater, get phone calls from the label. DJs get them calls too. And the label might be say, yo man, it's X, Y, Z popping.  Come on, man. Really? You gotta realize, I got so many good relationships in New York. I used to be in New York when a lot of these rappers was getting signed in Texas. I'm in New York in the meetings and stuff. I'm hearing what's going on. Just like we dropped a stick for our one on record. Man, nobody, nobody was supporting this record down here. Nobody? Nah, it's number one on Amazon. It was number six on TikTok, man. Like, it was one of the bubbling songs on the billboards. It didn't hit billboards yet, but it's bubbling.  And that's dope that you, you know that that you can't control what happens with this music now. Look at Reg Daddy, man. Reg, they start blowing up again on TikTok, man. I'm saying like they treat this song like it's a brand new song. And that's the whole game of TikTok. It'll take something, mean you can say something right now and it could go crazy. And you don't never know what that might be. So you just gotta say it back. And it could be five years from now and you said it five years ago with the way social media moving. Just like you just said, it could be 10 years ago. But you know what?  Yeah. You know, everybody don't make it 10 years. A lot of people make it three years and it's a rap. They go back working at Wild Mart and whatever they do. Go to jail, crash out. But you make it 10 years, you got knowledge, you know what you're doing. Wow. And you been doing this a minute, bro. And I'm gonna tell you this live, man. I won't smoke with any artist, man. You know what I mean? Like when it comes to this music, I feel like I'm number one. Oh, I'm just gonna tell you this, man. And I've been home for too long. You supposed to feel that way. No, you say that. But I mean, see for me, this is what I be seeing like the interviews and everybody getting us and who's the legend, who this and that, man. I don't care about if I'm a legend or not. I tell people we could do a versus battle with anybody. I would like to say if you had to do a versus check battle with DeRoe, who would win? I would win. How? Flawless victory. And what makes you... What flawless victory? Can't nobody outperform me in the state of Texas, man. Like I'm the God when it comes to this performing, man. Big nigga moving across the stage, man. Like I do this shit, man. But he got a big song. He got a big song, man. I got a big song.  I got records that people are like, oh, I forgot that was his song. Like, bro, you ask any club DJ. What song would you come out with? I wouldn't tell you. No, we... I wouldn't tell you, bro. Like, first of all, there ain't no record that's gonna tie Rick Daddy, bro. Like, I created the Dallas, the whole Dallas club music. I created that. I produced it. Like, bro, I know how to control the crowd. Man, I knew how to DJ and MC before I was rapping, man. Damn. Like, niggas got to understand and wake up, bro.  So you just... And 15 years. During a long time. Man, 15 years in a game, man. I know what I'm talking about. I know I knew Yellow Beezy was gonna be a star. I seen that nigga performing Jackson, Mississippi, I told her. I love Yellow Beezy. I told that nigga.  I hear it, bro. Sonny, I'm a creative, bro.  Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh. I've been creative. I start from the beginnings to beat. The bass, the snares, the hook. The melodic hooks, man. Coming up with them verses, man. Like, come on, bro. I changed the game, man. When I dropped Rick Daddy, nothing sounded like that, man. Nothing's up. I'm getting money because I pictured the black band playing that, man. I'm doing TSU homecoming with the cheerleaders, man, in the band. Stop playing with me, man. I ain't nobody out there doing what I'm doing, man. Wow, that's gonna be crazy. I had everybody have a homecoming dance in the Maserati, man. When twerking the water, even in the thing. I had them twerking in Texas. I brought it here, man. Like, it restocked me, man. Ice cream paint job went on, man. That's cool. That was a good record, man. It was a good record. But you gotta understand, man.  Oh, it's different. Come on, man. It's the difference, man. I made my music from Ken Wood's in the Cockerel Hill, Gannon Lane, man. Cell-5237. When I made my beats, that's what I was hearing, bro. So you didn't smoke? Yeah, I smoked. So the world watches, I won't smoke, man. Do it versus, man. Lerani, Lerani will tell you how I am, man. We used to do the fan running show starting East Texas, man. Okay. In Tyler, we did a show, and I realized, man, we got a lot of records, man. I want a friendly fade, man, with that music, man. Come on, man. The road you want it. Who else, man? Chief you want it. Yeah, chief. Be Ken, you want it. Anybody, man. Anybody. I don't care who you name, bro. If they want it, let's do it, man. You'll get out there. Hey, look. We need to do it. It hits, man. Come on. Come on, man. If you ain't been on the billboard, matter of fact, if you ain't ever been on the billboard, charge, man. This don't apply to you, man. Woo-hoo-hoo. Yeah, man. Like, you wanna smoke with Kelly, man. That's the energy we're putting out there right now, man. Anybody who wants smoke with the music, man, let's do it, man. Let's do it, man. That's what's going to keep it alive. And you gotta perform. You gotta perform!  Now, come on, man. But once I take my shirt off, it's a wrap. Man, man. Come on, man, man. Come on, man. Man, let me ask you about the... I wanted to ask some. No, because you mentioned, you know, whenever Yellow Beezy, you already knew, you already had the air for it and so forth. I remember somebody came on before and was saying like, a lot of these legends need to go ahead and start their own labels since they have the air for it. And since they, some of them not really doing music as much or they trying to do music but it's not popping like it's supposed to. So like, why not turn that and still make money by creating a label and bringing these young artists and teaching them the things that you've been knowing all these years. Young niggas don't want to listen to old niggas. Let's just keep it out of the way real, man. When I was 21, 22, I ain't want to hear nobody else had to say that. Yeah. What it's gonna take is gotta take older, I ain't gonna say old niggas, gotta be older successful people who are relevant. Those are the only people who gonna be able to say something, man. Then you gotta have a person like Sean Cotton, like Terry Blue, like yourself, that can mediate and say, hey, man, sit like a round table, let's try this. When I look at QC, I say they figured it out. They figured it out. They OG's, you know what I'm saying, like QC, Coach K and them, they OG's, man, but they running like a young label. They figured it out. So it's possible. I think Dallas can do it, Texas can do it. Yeah, I think Texas can do it. I think the South can do it. I think each one gotta teach one. I think we gotta break down these walls and where people, like we were saying earlier, you got San Antonio over there. You got San Antonio over there. You got Oklahoma over there. That's my favorite place. You see what I'm saying? You got, hey, Carpus Christi over there. So you got East Texas over there. All of that, you can ride across East Texas in about three and a half hours from Paris all the way across to Nacodotus. Nacodotus, yeah. You see what I'm saying? That's a long ways, bro. You got a lot of people that I think we need to stop dividing these things up and come together like somebody with some sense and show some unity. That way we can move the needle. It'll take some time, but I think we can do it, man. Respectfully, I look at some of the artists that try to, I shout out to Ro because he got Austin over there. Yeah, man, he got artists. You know, a lot of artists he put on Ace Boogie, a young nation. Yeah. Some old people I remember he was putting on, man. There's a lot of artists that's trying, man. You just gotta, we just gotta support people when they trying. Even if they don't, if they're not successful, we want them to be, we still gotta support them, man. No, I agree with that 100%, man. So, man, we've been doing a lot of different interviews, bro. We've had some crazy instances in here. That's crazy. Man, I don't think, that's what I say. How y'all keep the peace in here, man? Bro, it's not hard because I pray for people to come on this show, bro. I really, I'm one over here who just basically, what you see is what you get. It ain't no, it's the same for me every time. It might be a different person in that seat, but at the end of the day, it's all respect, you know what I mean? So, and it's a love, but a lot of time people be talking, I don't have to say nothing too much. They already got it on their mind, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, there's a lot of good people that done came in here like yourself, support the show, watch the show, shout us out, you know, that gives us inspiration, right? Oh, when people do things publicly, it means a lot these days. Yeah, it's about the cosine. That's it. You know what I mean? Even a like sometimes is good. I always tell people, even when you give me a heart or a pound or whatever on the comment, that goes a lot because people say, damn, that boy, I didn't know he knew them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's for real. And then when I hear stuff in the interviews, I try to share it on my story, man. You know, I don't really like drum as much. Yeah. That's why I rock with y'all, you know what I'm saying? Y'all kind of keep it. Whatever happens, happens.  I can say that much. I learned a lot too, you know what I mean? One of the OG Bloods down here. Ah, they were just there, they were just there. They fought yesterday. You know, they potted Tix, XO, I didn't know she was, she wrote that record for Big Sean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was crazy, wasn't it? It really hurt my heart, man. She wrote it, but he took it, you know, and her perception, she had it, he did the same video on the football field. It happens, though. Yeah, that's why you said it happens. When you're smaller. It happens, man. Come on, man. It happens, man. Because you gotta think about a small person who came out with something that's gonna be ahead and then somebody bigger see it and be like, I can take this wave further. Right.   Just listen to it. You know what I mean? It's like, people could come somewhere and hear something and say, like you said, I can take this back where I'm going and turn it up. Turn it all the way up. It happens, man. I got a list at home with records that I know that I came up with and I heard somebody else do it. I'm like, damn. They went there. They took it there. You can sue them for it.  Exactly. I realized everybody, I'm gonna say this to all the people that's watching this. Everybody feels like somebody took something from them. I see producers all the time, oh, he stole my beat. Remember a couple months ago, they was getting on Yellow Beesie when he dropped this song, The Girl in Montana, she had a record that was just like it. It was all in his head, but for me, I was like, damn, I don't know, man, because you just never know. You really never know who's telling the truth. Yeah, yeah, you don't know. Right. And that's the thing about it. I'm a friend, believe it in. I heard Michael Jackson say this about how like, when you're a creator, God will give you inspiration. They call you ideal bubbles. Right. So if I come over something to have on a sample, just print, just prep and rain. I sit on it for like two or three days, and I end up not doing it. Then about a month later. It's out there. Trap Boy Freddy does the prep and rain song next thing. You know, you're like, damn, didn't steal my idea. No, it didn't steal it. It was just, you said it to somebody and it went into the world. The energy is out there. So I tell people, man, it's tough. So many people is really wasting money, man, if you ain't got the one gold one. And it's not even just that. I really don't believe that you come up with an idea right now that you didn't even tell anybody. There's so many people in the world, you can't tell me that you're the only person that thinking about that same exact idea. Somebody could be on the other side of the world and come up with that same idea. No such things. You understand what I mean? So like, that's real. But it's hard when you're passionate. Right. And it's also hard when you broke.   Especially when they made a lot of money off of it. Right, man. What do you think about T.I. going over in the comedy? I support T.I. I just know that when you transfer, I'm not transferable, when you transition to another art, it's gonna be tough. Even like with the acting, I got in front of some real, there's been, I guess you could say, and I blew it the first day we shot.  Next day we went to the table read, they said, hey, let's try something different. They broke it down.  Exactly, yeah. So let me tell you something.  He came on, he's like, and he does skits all the time. He's like, let me tell you, Acton is a totally different beast. You're going that, it's not as easy as people make it seems. Yeah, I definitely bombed a few shoots, but by the way, I'm in a movie coming out called Cream. Okay. It's coming out December, December 11th, I'm not mistaken. Shot here in Dallas? Shot right here in Dallas. Who did it?  Kelly, Ms. Santee, Ms. Santee, that's her name, Ms. Santee. What's about? Damn, oh, she can't give it. I don't want to be lying to you at all. Who can tell what's in the trailer? It's just about the trials and tribulations of a female. She went through things in the household, confided in some people. What you playing in the movie? You guys. I played like a boyfriend. Okay. Do you have any love scenes? You know what? They asked me, was I comfortable? I was like, hell, you're not comfortable. First I was like, man, you mind taking a shirt off? What? I'm going to shirt off, man. And they were like, would you be comfortable doing a love scene? Hell, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good, man. I'm good to do it. But respectfully, man, we didn't do it on that one, but I told them, any other film leave me, man, like, oh, I'm ready because I take it seriously. What? Okay, yeah. I definitely would have done it. You did not have it with your man. Yeah, yeah, with the quickest man. You got down with him. Do you think I got to ask him this right here? Tell me, let's go. I really don't. I had never asked nobody this question. You been from Oak Cliff, just felt like asking it. Do you think Boosie ever come back to Dallas? You know me back to Dallas. Have he performed here and did nothing, like, performed or nothing, did? No, I'm pretty sure he going to perform again. You think so? Why not? Yeah, so you- Why not, bro?   Oh, damn, I ain't like in there or anything. You tell me, man, let me talk about Boosie, he used to arrogant to never come back to Dallas, man.  Man, let me tell you something.  He gonna come back. He might come back to Big Team. Damn! Well, he never come back. He not gonna make it, like, publicized that he here. We never know. We never know. You know, he's two-pockets favorite rapper, so.  And he a UGK baby, too. Yeah, yeah, definitely a UGK baby. That's why I'm a big fan of Boosie, man. Definitely always looking at what he gonna do next, man. I hope that he be sitting in his seat. That's why I asked that, you know, because I know he the type of cat that will come over and rock with me. Boosie is a solid dude, man. You know, I rock with Boosie. Boosie got me one of my first shows. He did. I opened up for Boosie at a club, it was a, it's Madoosa, man, whatever it is now. You get people opportunity, man. Like, even T-Rail was on here, and he gave, he got a T-Rail, man. Man, I love T-Rail. Did he sing for you? No, he sung, man, but I just like the way, you know, it's his kid and the situations. He talked about, you can't make that up, bro. So I'm like, this is a solid, solid dude. He good, man. Tank rock with him? Tank really rock with him. Yeah, sure. I like him, man. I really hope that he gets to make it, make it like really good. Yeah, like, yeah. Just keep going. And he's very persistent, because he even say, like, he not scared, like, he loves to do features.  That's good, man. Yeah, he been on some niggas' nicks. He said he running from it, man. He love Mode 3, though, man. Man, Love Mode 3, that's the one thing he did. Every interview. And then Rain, that's what Rain told me. He won't go to a show, because it'll hurt him. You know what I mean? To hear them songs like that, man. I got good relationship with him, too. Yeah, yeah.  What? Listen, man, I got to ask, you know, I might start something called The Fat Stories with Rainwater, man. I was just about to ask you, give me one of your crazy stories about Rain. We had King of Diamonds open. And for those of them that know I was one of the only, one of the part owners of King of Diamonds, Ricky, my cousin. And D-Wood, D-Wood almost pentagon. Yeah. And so for most people, they know the Fat Pills spot, but Rain walks in the clubs by like three in the morning and I met the front door, taking the money. And I ain't gonna lie, I never told him this, man. This year, he heard my feelings, and he said, I didn't say it.   I know you ain't up for a whole working front door in the club. He said, here or not. Here or not, bro. He's supposed to be in some kind of studio, but in my head, I was like, I'm over making sure we get this money tonight. But to him, he seemed, he shocked him because he didn't know I was at the front door. And then he called me, he called me, he said, bro, here or not, bro, you two famous, bro, to be a working front door here or not. And then I tried to do a podcast. I hadn't even started the podcast. I had just told my DJ, let's do a radio show. It was during the pandemic, I wanted to like do an air check and send it to the radio station. Called everybody, got their clean news. Call Rain, well, I texted him. He said, I need three radio music. He didn't respond, he just read and didn't respond.  He said, favorite me to hear something. He said, nigga, you got a bottle. Maybe three, four more hit songs left in you. He said, I'm not giving you none of my three music.     That's a sad girl.  That's a good song. That is hell.    But the thing, I never knew that it was, I want them niggas naive. He watching everything. Yeah, you know, man, but he got a lot of love for a lot of people, man, right? That nigga, man, he'll tell you in a minute like how you feel. Yeah, he love to talk mess though. He love to talk mess. He call me like that. And he love you to death, but he don't talk mess. I put him on speakerphone when he in the car so my wife could hear it. She'll laugh. Cause she be like, man, she said, y'all don't get into it. I said, nah, man. Not really. I let rain talk, man. I let rain talk and I listen to what I want to listen to. Exactly, man. Hey, man, but it's a lot of good people in the Dallas area, man. When you, when you look at all the people we've interviewed, even Lodeezy. Lodeezy, one of those guys that come over here, man. And he all... Has he let you hear his music? His early music when he did that with me. No, no, no, no, no. He got new music. He out of music. Lodeezy, stop trying to like hide, man. Why are you hiding it? I don't know, man, like R.P. Lodeezy. He just got Snooty Wildman. He got like brand new songs with him. Lodeezy got a hard drive without his music, man. But he don't put that in full. I'm doing it for him. Man, Lodeezy's doing what Lodeezy wouldn't do. No, Lodeezy's a daddy and a manager, man. Right. Come on, man. Lodeezy's doing it for fun. Yeah, yeah, man. He did doing it for the hell of it. I just seen Lodeezy and that's what I'm doing, man. You know what's crazy? I was running him out of town, too. Yeah. But let me, let me give me the story about how you end up being, getting signed or affiliated to rap a lot. Cause it was something happened. I got this insight, man, like some slow-joke career down. Tell me what happened with that. All boys have decided it was a company out in Houston called Yipi Records. Yipi was supposed to be like a money-backing situation. Signed with Jim, cause I met Mr. Lee. Okay. Mr. Lee was there. Scarface was in the office. That was one of them surreal, man. I seen face. I was like... That's real, right there. I ain't never met that nigga. I'm like, this nigga a hero. You ain't never met face? Yeah, I met him when I was young. We were both young. That's my uncle, man. Yeah, we were young. We was at Lakeside. I remember you told me that. Yeah, that was a long time ago. He been too short. So, yeah, guy with Lee was solidified the deal. I was talking to Block and the team, and he wanted me to do boys in the hood, part two. My sons and my boy Ray Potter grew up without him. He wanted me and him to be part of boys in the hood, cause Gigi was already gone. Yeah. And she started moving. Got the phone call, man, and we going to LA. She was with Warner Brothers.  It was on. Didn't sign the deal. Waited about another week, went to New York again. Met with Universal. Okay. I'll tell you about that story later. Then, man, Warner Brothers found out we were there, and the guy who interviewed us in LA was like, man, sign that nigga right now. Like, stop playing. So, got the paperwork.  Got to Houston, ready to pay for where we signed it. Big party when we get home. Or we go by, need your bank account information. I'm like, all right, cool. I'm telling all my niggas, like, yo, we can be paid like 300 feet of $1,000 from to be in the bank account. Yeah, I'm fine. For that wire transfer.  I need you to pull up to the house. That's what Mr. Lee said. Like, all right, cool. He had a big projection screen in the studio. He clicked the email and it said, cease and desist on behalf of James McMillan, which is Jay Prince, attorney. Damn.  And he said, basically, like, they're trying to, like, say the contract ain't valid. And I'm like, why? He said, cause it's Jay Prince, but he never really explained to me what was going on. Yeah, but I was about to say like, why would he do that? He had his own contract situation with Jay Prince. I guess that he wasn't allowed to do what he did. Okay, Mr. Lee. And then I found out that Jay was partners with the company that I signed to, the Yipri company. And he's the one that set up the deal. And so, somebody in the midst of it tried to snake him out the situation. Oh, okay. To this day, I don't know who was the person that, like, tried to cut him out the deal. Cause I didn't know, I'm just thinking, Fat Pimp signed on the Warner Brothers and that's just what it is. Yeah. But yeah, somebody snaked him. Somebody snaked him. And this is how I got ugly. Cause now that I'm irritated because I got the whole world thinking I'm signing on Warner Brothers, I'm still trapping in, you know what I'm saying? In our apartment.  Then I get other labels like Jive, many fresh ones that give me signed to Atlantic Records. Just a whole bunch of different people was trying to give me sign. But they kept saying like, somebody is saying that you signed in them. And I'm like, can't be nobody. I run into, I can't think of this dude's name. He was an attorney who was like, yeah man, there's some people speaking bad on your name. And who was it with the Yippie people? Damn. They was mad cause I was trying to go get my own little situation going. And Mr. Lee kind of had disappeared when start doing his own thing. I ran into J Prince. Seeing J Prince in the club, told him what was going on. You can't just walk up on J, but J was very inviting. Yeah. Invited me to the section, gave me a bottle of wine and shit, man. And I told him my case, just said, this is what's going on. They keep saying I'm signing to you. And then he's like, it was like, no, he said, you did what you was, you know, what you was obligated to do. And he said matter of fact, I'm a car, you want to set up a meeting? We set up a meeting. J was there. Mr. Lee was there. I was there. My manager was there. And the nigga that was holding my contract was there. J told the nigga, he said, get that man his paper where he released papers and stop playing.  It had a calm tone though. It wasn't like how I just said it. He said a real calm. They try to say they didn't have it. So he called an assistant to go in the office and they gave me my release papers. Said it was done. And ever since then, it's been love and rap a lot because I was crazy about Houston there. Everybody knew everybody. And I'm living out there, man. They calling me to do the 25 year reunion on a rapper like compilation. I did four records. I only got one. Dope, dope. It was me, Manifrest, Wacka Flocka, Juvenile, all on the same record and stuff. It's nothing but love, man. You know, it's monetized, man, with me. Man, that's dope, man. I got love for J, Jr. Come on, man. I'm trying to get there. What's that nigga name that we always be talking about over here that that J Prince, Jr. got over there? Phinex. Phinex, two times. I'm trying to get that nigga on this subway.  That is love, man. I got to get that nigga over here, man.  He's supposed to make a call and get him over here first. My baby brother's bringing him to the club. Done cheap, say. He's going to bring him to his birthday party. His birthday, that's next week, huh? Yeah. We got to make it happen. I'm going to call him over here. I'm going to get out from my car, my brother. Yeah, okay. See if he'll come through for a little. We going to be out of town after next week. We got to get that nigga quick. We got to get that nigga this week. I'm going to try and see if I can get him in here for y'all. Man, I love the interviewer, man. My brother, he really tight with him, so. For sure? Man, that's dope, man.  We be doing our thing now. Don't give it to us. That's how it's saying like it's so hard to say, like, who y'all ain't already interviewed or about to interview, man. Man, it'll be working, bro. Like, when y'all got hit there, I was like, damn, it's about time somebody would interview him, man. He been coming there ever since he was about 15. Yeah. Because he lived around the corner. He heard him on the interview. Yeah, and see him, he's also somebody that I got a lot of respect for because when I don't got nothing popping on the internet, he'll tell me like, yo, this record need to be pushing. He gonna hit you. Never asked me, never asked for no money. He vouched for me in the meetings. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like when I had dropped this record called It's Your Birthday that J.Y. produced, he ran it in the VLIVE. Man, J.Y. will be on Boss Talk, man. Go ahead. Yeah, we gonna make that. I can make that happen. No, I mean him talk. He probably will. I just gotta, we gotta make it happen. All y'all is busy. His family, he got nigga. Yeah. He'll hit that, man. He made like that birthday song, the VLIVE birthday song, it was your birthday and shit, man. So. That's dope, man. Yeah, with some strings, man. I think he doing this thing, right? No, he doing this. He doing this thing. Anybody that's a good daddy, I rock with it. That's right. Them boys and them kids, man. I always call them. He trying to figure it out. Yeah. I love that dude. Man, I got a lot of love for everybody, man. I think the only thing I lack in this city is just the new artist I wanna work with some of them. Some of them? Yeah, some of them seem a little standoffish. Yeah. Yeah. You ain't chose that and done nothing to get them? Me and Charles got a record. Me and Charles, see, you gotta realize when I was living in Houston, like I'm like really like a lot of these, I was here bro, you know what I'm saying? These niggas was coming up, man. Yeah. I worked with all of them. That's dope. Charles is a good nigga. The only thing me and Charles ain't done recently was supposed to be getting a writing session going on. Yeah. That's the wrong way now. Okay, okay. That's my dog, man. Yeah, he was just here. I wanna work with Charles, man. I had that sauce on this show, yeah, but I've been working on it. Yeah, man. Tell that nigga to stop playing, man. What's the name of Southwood Winning, though? Me and me and Charles were really good niggas. Yeah, I love that nigga, man. Yeah, man, Charles got a lot of good people over there, man. Vucci, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my dog, I like Vucci. Vucci? Yeah, yeah, cause you know, you ain't gonna get along with everybody, man, but Vucci, man, I developed a social media relationship with him, you know, Charles, man, I really wanna get one in. I got one more question to ask you, man. What's that?  The heart. When it went down over there, I had the verses out. You probably seen my episode when I was crying and everything, but I wasn't. What did you think about it? I was mad. I was mad. You were like me, wasn't you? See, I knew I wasn't crazy, man. Listen, this is the thing. I'm A-Ball, M-J-G, you know, feeling it, too, but it ain't the same without the pimp, man. And then I feel like they shouldn't have had it in Atlanta, man. Who is that? Should have been in Texas, man. They just leave. Like, well, come on, it should have been. I'll tell Bobo that, didn't I? It should have been in Houston, somewhere, man. The word niggas from Texas could be there and give UGK the proper flowers that they deserve, man. That's it. I felt the same way, man. That's just me, man. I'm like so pimp-sy, gonna be loyal, man.  You can't even play with them. Don't even play with them, because you play with them niggas get mad. We'd be over upset, like, don't even play with them. And I'm over here like, well, man, you should have told them niggas you wasn't doing it over there. But then I don't know their situation, man. Yeah. But I want to mention, because I know earlier, when you were talking about your deal with Warner Brothers, you mentioned Universal, and you said, oh, I'll get to that later. What happened with Universal? She won't tell the info. Man, listen. Man, I'll never even talk about this, man. But I'm gonna tell y'all this.  The Drowsdick or something like that? Yeah, yeah. Man, I seen that, man. I seen what their vision was, man, back in 2009. Really? You wasn't with it. You wasn't with it. It was like, it was newer from Texas, bros. You know what I'm saying? It's like, we don't. We don't do that. We don't do that, but certain artists was over there at that time, man.  So do you regret not doing it? Hell no. I stand on principles, man. I follow, y'all are really, I follow Farrakhan, man. You know what I'm saying?  So certain things I'm not compromising. Man, thank you so much, man. We love you, man, for sure. Appreciate y'all, man. Man, Fat Pimp, you one of them guys, man. You know over here, this platform, you know, we open door for you, bro. So I really want y'all to continue to just keep growing, man. For me, I love seeing just the growth. Thank you, man. We gon' definitely keep working. Keep pushing. I be seeing the hate too. That's all right. I've been seeing the hate lately. That's when I say, you know, these niggas have finally made it. You know what I'm saying? No. It comes back out. I have a mutual nigga that I'm cool with, man. I seen him hating one day and I was just like, man, you can't do that, bro, but that's the thing. You don't know the niggas, man. Like, you know, whoever was doing it, probably don't even know us. A lot of people don't know us, you know that. But the thing about it is, when they hating, bro, that lets you know you're on that radar. Yeah, yeah. So like with chief, that's what I'm telling you, with chief, by him doing what he's doing, y'all don't realize y'all are letting these young niggas figure out who he is, man. That's what it is. You know how many people are looking at his interview and looked at him and went back in the comments and said, my list of nigga muses, that nigga muses. Come on, man. Stop playing, bro. Hey, man, give chief his flowers, man. And he was out of state niggas. This wasn't no nigga, these niggas just niggas that looked him up. I'm like, damn. Give chief his flowers, man. And also at the same time, give Sean Cotten his flowers to him. Man, like I said, I ain't gonna never, never forget him coming on here. He didn't have to do that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't get it twisted now. We got a dope setup, niggas. You know what I'm saying? Hey, listen to, when y'all get out for it, get on YouTube and listen to Dallas verse everybody. Okay. Sean Cotten and my boy DJ Frosty. Okay. And they put this project, it's this one song.  And mode three goes last on there. He was like the last person they added on there. When y'all listen to it, you'll realize how important bridging the gap is. Because I'm kind of on records with mode three. You know what I'm saying? Like that was the only record I ever got with him. And that happened because of Sean Cotten and DJ Frosty. Wow. Yeah. There's a lot of people on that song that ain't rapping no more, man. But when you hear mode three, you can kind of hear like why he was that nitty. I gotta ask you this, when you say that, a lot of people, you know, it's been, now it's been some things saying where that, you know, like kind of like, like Sean caused this boy to crash out. Been a few people that came on and people out here that said stuff like that. How do you feel when you hear people say that, like Sean caused mode three to get in that situation? I'm gonna say respectfully, man. Like, you know, like, I don't think no man caused another man to crash out. I don't really feel like mode three crashed out. I just feel like, man, just the powers that be. Like, God didn't want him here as long as he, you know, longer than what he was here for. Yeah, I like it. Mode three kind of went out. You know what I'm saying? Mode three went out in a really F though way, man. But I kind of feel like, even in death, man, I feel like he still was in control. If that ain't so weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Monimo's always tell me he didn't, he wasn't trying to get away like that. You say he looked at him on the camera like, man, he wasn't trying to, it was like he could have left, man. He was just trying to, doing the mode, he could have jumped over, he could have did this, you know. And everybody got the thing they say, but man, mode three, man. Like I said, short, man, listen, long live mode three. He got them kids, them three kids, man. I gotta shout them out. His mom, man, his family, man. We opened this platform up and I've always, you know, tried to make sure that we show him love in some kind of way, especially dealing with rain or whoever. Same thing I do for anybody, man. But definitely, man, when somebody passed on, like C-Struz brothers came, did you see the episode when they came in? Yeah, you know, C-Struz on my day one, man. You know, I, that, that, that was dope, right? I can't look at them, man. Cause he looks just like him. Yeah, man, like, I mean, like me and C-Struz manager, 18, man, like it'd be days, man. We sit on the phone and talk about Struz, man. It hurts, bro. Yeah. It's hard for me to look at them, man. Cause I see, even when I see his kids, man, I just, it's tough, man. It's tough, man. Yeah. Man, all right, P-Struz. That's the only thing that bothers me about him. Nobody really be big enough his name. Yeah. Like, you know, when he was here, he helped a lot of people out, co-signing and boosting them up. But they don't really be screaming, my brother now ain't no more, man. Wow. And I guess I gotta mention Roy Lee, now I done talked about everybody else. So Roy Lee, he's another one, man, a lot of soul to do. I wish I knew him. I didn't really, I never really, I never got a chance to like. I didn't get to meet him, but I heard so many stories and I seen him because I watched him when him and boosting him had big thing, man. So I think he said, hold on. And so, you know, it's just a trip, man. So we don't let it down, cause we just arrived. Yeah, man, I appreciate it, man. We love you, man. Man, I appreciate it, man. Man, my boy Fat Pim in the building, y'all, man. It went down, man. Hey, I'll let your boy. It's the unique house. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, where the boss is talking.