From Hollywood, the NBC theater presents... The director's assignment. Production, you were meant for me. Director, Lloyd Bacon, star Dan Daly. The Hollywood screen directors present a romance set to music. You were meant for me. Starring Academy Award nominee Dan Daly in his original role with Betty Lynn and introducing the director of the film Lloyd Bacon. The life story of our guest screen director tonight reads like a saga of show business. Born into a distinguished theatrical family, he himself became first a stage actor and then a film actor and director. His was one of the first minds to grasp the full potentialities of motion picture sound. And his pioneering in this field established him as one of Hollywood's most resourceful and versatile artists. You've seen the fine touch of his direction in such grand entertainment as Mother is a Freshman, Give My Regards to Broadway, The Sullivan's, I Wonder Who's Kissing Her Now and tonight's story, you were meant for me. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Lloyd Bacon. Folks, our story tonight is about the closing years of a narrow show business. Years packed with glitter and excitement, but somehow they were full of sweet music. Making you were meant for me was a nostalgic thrill and I hope you'll find the same thrill as we relived part of those years. Relive them with Dan Daly as an orchestra dealer, Chuck Arnold and Betty Lynn as Peggy Mayhew. Here, ladies and gentlemen, is an error. Here is you were meant for me. In 1929, what a year. It was the beginning of the end of the era of wonderful nonsense. Million Dollar Gates, Red Grains, The Galloping Ghost, Flagpole, Citizen Marathon Dancers, Admiral Byrd planning the stars and stripes in Little America. Rhapsody in Blue. Paul Whiteman was King of Jazz and George Gershwin an Irving Berlin with the men behind the throne. Common stocks and women's skirts were mounting to new heights and I was doing pretty well myself. I had a smart little band, Chuck Arnold and his sophisticates that played the smaller circuits in one night's stands. We were doing a shot in Bloomington and the dance pavilion was packed with the flaming youth of the town. That's when I met my water loop. Bloomington, 1929. Crazy rhythm, here's the doorway. I'll go my way, you go your way. Crazy rhythm from now on we're through. Here is where we have a showdown. I'm too high at, you're too low down. Crazy rhythm, here's goodbye to you.  What's the use of prohibition? You produce the same condition.  For somebody's big moment to win a prize now hold your breath and hold on to your checks while my brilliant manager and arranger here Mr. Oscar Hoffman of Green Pert New York selects the lucky number out of this bowl. For this I gave up a concert career. Here you are hot shot. Thank you Oscar and here it is folks hold your breath. Yeah hold it good and long. Here is the lucky number it is 864 Number 864. Who's got it? 864. Me. Me. Mimi has it. Well Mimi. Come on up here to the bandstand. Not a girl. Come on up. Don't be nervous. Here she comes folks. Give her a great big hand. Well Mimi. Mimi. Mimi with the 864. Come on everybody. Let's give this girl a great big hand. A fortune smiles on a lovely lady. Miss. Mayhew. Peggy Mayhew. Lovely Miss Peggy Mayhew. And I'm not kidding. Lovely. Spell W-O-W. Wow. Congratulations Peggy. And now for the prizes. Let's see what we have. One book of green trading stamps from bombs department store. Very nifty. And there's a season pass for the Poli Theater. Good Tuesday matinees. And one article of feminine attire. That's a... Yeah. It's gift wrap from Wee Bowls the Popper Store. Thank you Mr. Arnold. All right. And now in honor of this very lovely little lady the boys and I would like to do a special arrangement of you were meant for me. Your hand beautiful lady. Oh no. I mean yes sir. For me. I looked down at Peggy Mayhew as I sang. I saw the worship in her eyes and I thought here's another cruelest drug girl. Only there was more to this girl.  All at once I wasn't kidding. All at once I meant every word of that song. This was it. Peggy Mayhew. Uh-uh. Peggy Waterloo. After a third of a lifetime of girls this was the girl. And I knew her. I'm content. The angels must have sent you. And they met you. Just for me. Thank you very much. All right boys take it. Well thank you very much Mr. Arnold. Mr. Arnold? Chuck. It was very nice. I enjoyed it. Oh wait a minute. You're beautiful you know that. Well thank you. May I have my hand back now? How about a prize for me? Prize? Yeah. All right. You ask for it. There. Hey. That's big time foliage you got there. I've got to go. No wait a minute. Look Peggy. Meet me after the dance tonight. I can't Chuck. I'm with a date. Well meet me after the country lad takes you home. Not tonight. We play peoria tomorrow night. How about coming over? I don't know Chuck. Well say you'll try. All right. I'll try. I did get to peoria the next night. I could hear Chuck singing inside, but the doorman wouldn't let me in without an escort. I saw Oscar, Chuck's manager, and I gave him a note for Chuck. Yeah, yeah. She gave me a note. Only I have a tender place in my heart for small town girls who fall in love with Chuck Arnold. I tore the note up. I kept waiting for Peggy to show up and once she didn't I get a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach like when I lost my graduation watch and didn't know where to start looking. We finished playing at midnight. I went out afterward to walk off my disappointment. I passed the bus station and there on a bench was Peggy Mayhew. Hey Peggy, hey beautiful. Chuck. What happened? Where were you? They wouldn't let me in so I gave Oscar a note. I don't know what happened. I thought you were... I never got any note. I've been waiting and waiting and now it's time for the last bus home. Oh baby, how about something to eat? I've got to get back home. Well, one goodbye kiss. No Chuck, one kiss was enough and I'm ashamed of it. Look baby, I mean business. Chuck. Some voltage. Oh Chuck, I thought I was never going to see you again. Well you're going to see a lot of me from now on. I'm going to find us a justice of the peace. Justice of the peace? Yep, I just proposed to you and you just accepted. Oh Chuck, darling. Mom and dad. Hey, tell them about this plug and variety. Arnold Combo Garner's top grosses on Midwest flapper circuit. Not bad, huh? It's wonderful. Pretty soon you'll be on the front page. Yeah, well pretty soon you'll be writing the folks from New York. New York? Oh Chuck, are we going to New York? We're booked into the Pennsylvania roof right after the first of the year. The Pennsylvania roof? Well that's a big time. It's been a long pull baby, but land is in sight. Chuck Arnold, now playing Pennsylvania roof. Oh I can see in a variety here. Arnold Combo's sensation pen debut. Hey, you write home to mother and let variety write their headlines. Chuck, what does this headline mean? Wall Street lays an egg. Oh that, nothing. Just forget about it, forget it. Well you can't make me forget that today is our anniversary. No kidding. Mm-hmm, two months. Well, let's go dancing someplace after the show. All right Chuck. A busman's holiday, huh? After the show we got a heavy date, it girl. Okay boys, that closes shop for the night. Rehearsal ten o'clock in the morning. Hey Chuck! Uh-oh, battle station boys. Song plugger off the starboard beam. Hiya there Chuckie boy, hi Oscar. Hi boys. Chuck wants you to have a look at the biggest thing that hit the board since Fertwell ran into Dempsey. Have a look at the sleet, Chuck. Now wait a minute, I gotta- I'll circulate among the town here and give them copies. You can give it a fast run down. Hi, I'm Earl, I's Goldie, Murph baby. The last song he showed me was Stardust. It'll never get any place. Anyway, whoever heard of Huggy Carmichael. Hey, is this the best you've got? It's an awful crummy title. Great title, great song, great arrangement, just for you. Our ranger opened the vein and wrote it with his heart's blood. Try it kid, get near this one. Okay, let's go. Once over lightly boys, what can we lose? No one to walk with All by myself No one to talk with I'm happy on the shelf In this behavior I'm saving my love for you I know for certain The one I love I'm through with flirting It's you I'm thinking of In this behavior I'm saving my love for you Like Jack Horner in a corner Don't go nowhere, what do I care? Your kisses are worthwhile waiting for Believe me I don't go out late, don't care the gold I'm home about 8 Me and the radio Ain't misbehaving, I'm saving all my love for you Boom, tiada, bi-tiada Da-i-tom-tom-tom-tada Ain't misbehaving, cause I'm saving all my love Yes, I'm slaving and I'm raven Even waiting flights above Ain't celebrating, cause I want to keep me raven I'd be hating to be dating if I kept my baby waiting Like Jack Horner in a corner Don't go nowhere, what do I care?  Well, you had a date with her three hours ago Oh, wow, good night fellas, I gotta go Now wait a minute, hold it, hold it Chuck You see, she's asleep now Your date is ruined anyhow So I can tell you what I was gonna hold back from you until tomorrow What's the matter? It's been a bad Friday on Wall Street Well, how are we on the market? Cleaned out Now you better sit down while I break the bad news All of it You are listening to the Hollywood Screen Director's presentation of You Were Meant For Me Starring Academy Award nominee Dan Daly in his original role With Betty Lynn and Jim Backers And introducing the director of the film Lloyd Bacon The next night I let Oscar conduct While I stood aside holding hands with Peggy Trying to break the bad news All of it Chuck, it doesn't matter if you've lost your money You're just starting on your career There's New York Look honey, we don't get to play New York Oh, well you always did well on tour Yeah, well you should see the cancellations pouring in Our whole tour is falling apart Well we'll just put Humpty Dumpty together again, that's all That was the bands next to the last number We're all finished tonight Peg, we're breaking up Oh, I didn't know it was that bad It's worse But it is, it's just a flurry though, don't worry We're broke Now don't worry I tell you I'm just being practical I was just thinking What a wonderful opportunity for me to see my folks back in Bloomington I thought you were crazy to go to New York Well, if you want to know I'm homesick Homesick? You sure? Kind of Oh well, that's different if you're homesick Because if you wanted to go back just to save money Oh no If you're homesick that's different And you'll love living in Bloomington for a while Sure I will, that's where I met you Oh look Oscar's signaling you, it's your number It's my number but it's for you As long as our darkness too I'll see him to me How I bowed out of the flappist circuit in 1929 And back into Bloomington And life with father and life with mother Peggy's father and Peggy's mother Chuck was so proud I remember the day in Brock's drugstore When we were pretending we were just resting in Bloomington Before taking a big job at the Flamingo room in Miami The drugstore of Victoria was playing Chuck's version of A.G. Sweet See her coming down the street Now I ask you very confidentially A.G. Sweet My old boyfriend Eddie was getting suspicious of our story And I guess that made Chuck do what he did Eddie here's a twenty dollar bill I gotta go, pay for the sodas all around And buy all the kids a copy of A.G. Sweet with my compliments Let's go baby Chuck that was kind of crazy tossing away our last twenty dollars like that Yeah, look at what came in the mail today Hey, step over by the street light Open it A check Royally's two hundred and seventy eight dollars Famous records company quarterly accounting I were rich Now will you let me run things around here? It's just that one of us has to be practical, dear All right, tell you what From now on you be practical and I'll be beautiful, okay?  I had to go to the drugstore Is Chuck still asleep? Naturally, it's only noon Mother, Chuck sleeps late because his rhythm is different than ordinary people Well, if he was my husband, he changes rhythm to march time, I can tell you Mother, so long as Chuck is pulling our weight around here I'm not going to let him be bullied into doing just anything In fact, I see there's another letter on the table from the famous records That means we'll have some money for you this afternoon Dear Mr. Arnold, please be advised that famous records company has on this date file petition and bankruptcy That's all, Peggy No check? No check How can a big concern like that go broke?   No mother What? He isn't coming home Wait There, can you hear me now? I was trying to tell you that that husband of mine isn't...  I spend the afternoon in an airplane to get here Just to talk Chuck out of a slight case of lunacy Where is the guy?  You might try serving up some dinner for a working man Chuck Hi Oscar, get you in overalls Working all day in your old man's brickyard has worked Peggy Oh darling, I thought, and you've hurt your foot Wheelbarrow ran over me Dr. Jones said for me just to take that stuff he gave you Gave me? Yeah, Doc wants me to keep up my strength He says we're going to have a baby Well I left Chuck and Peggy in a clinch and went to a neutral corner Somehow they made out together just the way the rest of America made out together Then wheels began to creak into motion again The dead eyes of factories sparkle again There was nothing to fear but fear itself, the man said I saw Chuck the other day His wife and I had a ringside seat at the Pennsylvania Roof All skirts are lucky numbers, so remember in 1929? And here he comes, silver in his voice and a gleam in his eye Who's got 864? Me, me Hello Mimi Hello darling Happy anniversary I can tell the angels must have sent you And they met The stars will return Next week the NBC theater takes a long hard look at domestic bliss As it brings you the satirical comedy The Perfect Marriage Starring 1948 Academy Award winner Loretta Young in her original role And on following weeks you will hear Fred McMurray and Bob Hope And now here are tonight's stars Dan Daly and Betty Lynn and screen director Lloyd Bacon Mr. Bacon, there's something I don't understand about your head Yes, Betty Lynn Well Dan Daly told me you always wear a baseball cap Sure, Lloyd has a number one cap and a number two cap The number one is the lid worn by last season's champs He wears that when everything's going well on the set What about number two cap? Oh, well that cap from the team at the bottom of the heap He wears that one when there's trouble But what does it mean when he doesn't wear any cap at all? It means there's two down hot in the studio Lloyd, before we say good night, I'd like to offer my thanks for the way you've shared your great knowledge of show business With the actors and actresses who've worked with you Mr. Working under your direction has really been an education After a compliment like that Dan, there's only one way I can show my appreciation What's that Mr. Bacon? Put on my number one baseball cap, good night folks Good night Good night And good night to you Dan Daly, Betty Lynn and Lloyd Bacon You were meant for me was presented through the courtesy of 20th Century Fox Producers of Down to the Sea and Ships Dan Daly is currently starring in the 20th Century Fox production, Chicken Every Sunday And Betty Lynn may be seen in the 20th Century Fox film Mother is a Freshman Included in tonight's cast were Jim Bacchus, Bill Tracy, Irene Tedrow, Norman Field and Dan Ritz You were meant for me based on the story Orchestra Wife by James Prindle was adapted for radio by Milton Geiger an original music composed and conducted by Henry Russell Production was under the supervision of Howard Wiley, associate producer Bill Carr Your announcer has been Frank Barton Listen again next week when the NBC Theatre presents Screen director's assignment, production, the perfect marriage Director, Louis Allen, star, Loretta Young NBC Theatre came to you from Hollywood This is NBC, the national broadcasting company


Okay, looking good. Billy Ray, feeling good, Lewis. We have a market that is, I think we're down a little bit and one up a little bit and another, as Basil would say, we have a bifurcated market, folks. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens here. The inflation index was a little bit of a surprise. We had a big move in Treasury Bonds. They went from 118 up to 119.20. And yes, Johnny is raising his little black up there and said that happened to be the 1.382 retracement right there at the 1.2222, which was the high so far today. That's a point-and-a-half move in Bonds, folks. That's a market that's been very, very oversold. And of course, we've had a pretty good rally in that. Now, I posted a chart here of the crude oil and the reason why I'm bringing it up, I don't have much time to complete this part of the sequence. But when we get into the next segment, I want to go over this because I heard something on Bloomberg this morning quite early. We had another storm here last night. We've only got three more days before the monsoon is officially over, which will be on Rosh Hashanah. That doesn't happen all the time, but on September the 15th, we have Rosh Hashanah, which is the day after the new moon. And that happens to be a big lunar cycle, an eight-day lunar cycle. And the old adage was, you buy on Rosh Hashanah and sell on Yom Kapoor. Yom Kapoor is the highest day in the Hebrew religion. Okay, let's take a look at this. And what we're going to do here is when we get back from our break, which will be very shortly, in a minute, I want to go over and show you why this is happening, the way that it is happening, because it is really quite unusual, because you can see here on this chart that we're up here at the $89.63 has been high. But folks, I heard someone on Bloomberg today say that this is the tightest supplies that we've had in oil in 10 years. Where was she when it was $130 when the war started? Hello, operator. Come on. I don't understand that, but nobody challenged her on it. So I guess the supplies are tighter now than they were back then, but why aren't prices higher? But they will be soon, I suppose. Okay, we're going to take a little break here. We'll be right back.<PHONE_NUMBER>.


In this video I'm going to tell you about the books that I'm planning to read for 2021. In a recent video I went through the books that I read last year related to chiropractic and I thought I would share the books that I've got on my reading list that I plan to read in the upcoming year. Most of them are specifically related to chiropractic whether written by or about chiropractors but if you are just related to other interests that apply to chiropractic. Well the first book that I plan to read and I'm already reading is Chiropractic Odyssey by Leonard Fay. So Dr. Leonard Fay brought motion palpation to the forefront based on his experience with Henry Gillay who you may know from the Gillay's test and other people that he spent time with in Europe and around the world. I'm learning a lot of things that I didn't realize that he actually came up with the term vertebral subluxation complex which I've seen used by others in which he says that he regrets now because that term is quite controversial. Dr. Fay was banned from teaching at a lot of the vitalistic chiropractic schools later on including Palmer. I'm enjoying this book I'm more than halfway through it now. He shares some interesting stories about launching into practice he talks about how much he charged per visit and I find it really interesting to hear the perspective of somebody who's just starting in the profession decades ago who was at the time a very progressive and forward-thinking chiropractor. Number two is the biography of Joseph Jancy the apostle of chiropractic education by Dr. Reed Phillips. Now I mentioned that last year I read the biography of Terry Yocum the well-known radiologist and in that book he mentions Joseph Jancy as being such an influence on him so I ordered this biography and it's by Reed Phillips. Now Reed Phillips also has written another biography which I love and that is the biography of Dr. Scott Haldeman and I found this story of Scott's to be so intriguing and so compelling and I think Reed Phillips does a great job of writing biographies and so I'm hoping that the story of Joseph Jancy will be just as compelling. Now I don't know much about him I know that he came from I believe it was Sweden. He happens to be Mormon a religion that I spent many years of my life in. Turns out he was very influential in the profession of chiropractic especially being the president of national college for many years and the foreword is written by Terry Yocum and so that tells you the impact that he had on so many of these giants in our profession. So I'm looking forward to reading more about that what made him tick what gave him the philosophy and opinions that he has about chiropractic. And number three is overcoming the odds. Another biography but this time by Antonio Webb M.D. Antonio Webb you may know as a orthopedic surgeon who has a huge YouTube channel.  His videos have been entertaining to watch. He has talked about chiropractic a couple of times and so I'm just interested in hearing more of his story of how he grew up. The challenges that he faced getting through medical school when he came from very little and also his you know experience in the military and then becoming a spine surgeon which I think even though chiropractors talk about preventing people from going to the surgeon they still are our colleagues in my opinion. And number four is the end of physiotherapy by David Nichols. Now I know a fair amount about the history of chiropractic and all of the controversy and all of the mess that we've gotten ourselves into over the years but it turns out physical therapy or physiotherapy has just as much history behind it and so this book goes through the history of the profession up until modern times talking about the challenges that they've gone through and the thought or the opinion that they might be in danger and this author talks about a way out of that and I find that so interesting to hear more about the history of these professions who we you know oftentimes look to and think oh physical therapy maybe did it right right they've gotten buy-in from the medical community but it wasn't always that way so I'm really looking forward to reading the end of physiotherapy and speaking of controversy number five is carotid and vertebral artery dissection and this is a book by Jody Dodds M.D. and Amanda Anderson who has had a stroke is a patient who experienced a stroke and they came together to tell the patient side of the story it's full of medical knowledge it's written in a Q&A format and it's meant for patients and family members of patients who have experienced a stroke now there's huge controversy about chiropractic and stroke and I am of the opinion that the risk of stroke is very low I think that we do not know whether there is any cause for causality there if you care about your patients if you care about being informed about this potential risk for stroke then I think learning more about it from the medical perspective is worthwhile and number six is bones inside and out by Roy Amines and he talks about the content and the structure and the formation of bones and he basically talks about bones as if they are a historical figure or a character in this book this story looks very interesting if you're interested in anatomy if you're interested in the things that we move even though we're not actually we're focused on the joints then I think this is going to be an entertaining read as well briefly a few others on my list are women in white coats have the first women doctors change the world of medicine by Olivia Campbell artificial intelligence in health care by the national academy of medicine the hand by Frank R. Wilson is a book that he mentions the hand because he's talking about the neurology of the hand how the brain controls the hand how the hand actually is deeply rooted to our ability to communicate and even to think so there you have it that is my list of books that I plan to read in the upcoming months and year leave a comment down below and let me know what is on your reading list related to chiropractic or otherwise if you enjoyed this video please hit that like and subscribe button to get notified of any upcoming videos that I'll be making in the coming weeks you can follow me at exploring chiropractic on social media and follow my podcast including this week in chiropractic where I talk about current news and events within the chiropractic profession thanks for tuning in and I'll see you again in the next one


Still in the National Assembly, the House of Representatives on Tuesday called on the National Security Advisor and other security agencies to deploy all necessary machinery to Anambra State. The resolution was passed to call to the adoption of a motion of urgent public importance. It's on the need to curb the increase in spate of killings in Anambra sponsored by Honourable Chris Azubogal. In his lead debate Honourable Azubogal expressed grave concern over the gruesome killing of some notable Anambra indigents including Dr. Chike Akunyili. He then solicited for the intervention. Let me stop information from Dr. Akunyili and eight others were slaughtered at Umbar, suburb of the commercial city of Anisha in Anambra State. The next day, another medical doctor, Dr. Teze Umwa, was killed. Police station was attacked in an old room by north and people were killed. There was further weather on Thursday, 30th September, 2021. Five vehicles were attacked along the Nehwin-Novi Road, leading to the ultimate date of one of my drivers. House is concerned that unless urgent and drastic measures are taken to halt the tide and combat those elements that are rising in the state, events in Anambra State could snowball into a major crisis that could affect the entire South East nation. Hello, hope you enjoyed the news. Please do subscribe to our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates.


My name is Faka Odenau Myabiola.  I have a farm in a farm settlement here in Ibadon, Nigeria. I started like five years ago. I was just two pigs, two females. Then it started growing to the extent that it became like 40 pieces. What do you love about the pig business? I love this pig business because you can easily plan with it. You can plan and come out at the targeted time. And you make profits. And also we really have visual thefts with it. It's a very rare case. Outsiders cannot come into your farm and still it's very rare. Except people that are around. And the mortality rate is very low. So what do you think is your biggest challenge right now? Presently in the last two years we've been having the issue of swine fever. We've been having the issue of swine fever. Because of this a lot of people have been discouraged. New people came in nearly into the business have been discouraged. Except those of us that have been in need. And we know how it is that still stayed. The issue with swine fever is that it has no cure. At the farm everything has to be cleared. What is something you will never give up? One thing I will never give up on is raring of animals. I love it so much. I do this. I also wear chicken. So anything that just brings in apart from the profit aspect of it. It gives me joy when I do these things. I felt fulfilled. I'm happy doing it. So I can never give it up for anything. If you could go back and change one thing. What would it be? Oh on that. If it's possible for me to change one thing. It's the initial capital I put in. In the first one and first 30 days. If it's possible for me to go back. I would have invested more. More into it. So much more. Because the more you put in into this business. The better for anyone. When was the last time you truly felt encouraged and supported me by the government or any federal interest? None has never happened though. When was the last time you truly felt encouraged and supported me? On that. It's actually from a family member. My elder sister's husband helped me with a certain amount of money then to invest into the business. He actually gave the money to me to support me and for my business to be better. But presently we don't have any help from the government. What do you think life is about? Life is a short. It's very short. Apart from the fact that it's short. While you are here. We just do our own little part. Just do our own. The little we can do. We should do it. Without going beyond our capacity. What is one thing that I could do that would dramatically improve your future? It comes in to assist us in what we are facing presently. Which is the issue of the swine fever. That's our major challenge presently. If the government can come in let's say research is being carried out. The measures to put in place or what are the things that can be done to really help us, the farmers, the PG farmers to really move ahead. And also if you are able to get finances for the betterment of our farms. Of the PG farming. And it really helps us. If you never meet again. What is one thing you would like me to take away from this meeting? That this PG business is very, very lucrative and a good business for anyone to invest in too. What I would tell anyone is that this business is a type that if you invest in it, you can never ever regret it. You can never regret it. It can never go into it and ever regret it.


Hello, everyone. My name is Jorge. I'm a postdoctoral researcher in the Department of Electronics and Informatics at the Catholic University of Paraguay. Today I'll be sharing with you our experience of using technology to strengthen your participation in Paraguay. A bit of context, Paraguay is a developing landlocked country, as you can see in the map situated in the heart of South America. The long dictatorship that governs the country in its recent history has strongly shaped the culture of participation of Paraguay. For most of the population, for example, engaging in democracy is almost exclusively associated with voting and protesting, and other forms of more propositive participation are still relegated in Paraguay. The potential of today's information and communication technologies, we understand that give us the possibility to promote new and innovative forms of civic engagement, where people can participate not only by casting votes every certain years, but by generating knowledge, proposing ideas, and by making meaningful contribution to democracy. Inspired by the increasing number of governments and serious society organizations that have begun to use technology to engage citizens in democracy, we decided to explore how technology can facilitate impactful processes of civic engagement in developing countries like Paraguay. In this sense, we have been participating in the design deployment and execution of three real cases in which technologies was used to engage citizens in public consultation oriented to address issues of public interest. The first case is what's called Vos Ivoto in Spanish or Voice and Vote in English, represented an initiative in which the citizens were invited to submit ideas on how the services and infrastructure of the city of Asuncion, which is the capital city of the country, can be improved. The initiative lasts for three months, from October to December of 2015, during the electoral period of the municipal election. For this case, we partner a local political party, which was running to occupy seats in the municipal council of the city of Asuncion. The candidate of the political party led the outreach media efforts by promoting the initiative through their personal social media profiles and also in newspaper and radio shows. IdeaScale, which is an idea management system, was used at the main ideation space and also a Facebook group was used as an alternative channel of participation. In the middle of both platforms, we had an application that synchronized automatically the content of both platforms. So users, independently on the tool they choose, could access to exactly the same content. The idea of using Facebook was to reduce participation barrier by allowing people to use a familiar tool. And we also wanted to give them the possibility to participate by using a tool that they know and without having to learn a new tool or to have to create a new username, etc. 154 people participated in this initiative. They generated 36 ideas, posted 88 comments, and casted 429 votes. 26% of them submitted ideas and less than half of them, less than half of them only observed what happened during the process. The second case, sought to engage the public in discussion around the public education of Paraway. By using the same platform as in the previous case, meaning IdeaScale and Facebook, citizens were invited to submit ideas on how the public consultation of the country of Paraway could be improving three main themes, school attendance, teacher training, and education infrastructure. The initiative was organized by my university and last for six months from September to February of 2017. The promotional strategy in this case was heavily based on weekly Facebook ads and posts. 67 people participated in this initiative. In total, seven ideas, 13 comments, and 37 votes were generated in both platforms, Facebook and IdeaScale. For people who submitted ideas and 73% of the participants only observed what happened during the initiatives. The third case, which is an ongoing initiative, we just started this month, a few days ago. Here we are not using IdeaScale, but we are using another platform very similar, which is called AppCivis, and we are also using Facebook to facilitate participation. And here the people are invited to submit ideas on how an iconic public part of the city of Asincion can be renewed. An organization of the civil society and my university are running the initiative, and here we are following several promotional strategies. For example, for the first time we are combining the online activities with offline events, where people can go and submit their ideas, propose their ideas, and also deliberate. The idea with this is trying to reach a sector of the population that are not very familiar with technology. We are also partnering public institutions and an organization of the civil society to advertise the initiative through them. And also, as in the case of education, we are using Facebook ads to recruit participants and promote the initiative. Since we have just started, we don't have much data about this initiative yet. So from here I would like to focus the presentation on the two cases that have already finished, the voice and vote, and the one about education. By drawing on data collected from a mix of quantitative and qualitative research methods, such as online surveys, semi-tractor interviews, and analysis of the platform activity logs, I'll be sharing with you the profile of the participants of this initiative, their motivation and expectations, and also the impact of these processes. We found that in general, the people that participate in this initiative consisted of equally-distributed men and women, young, wealthy, well-educated, technology savvy, mainly internet consumers, not frequent voters, but more directly active in society. We also discovered that people participated mainly attracted by the possibility to contribute solutions to the problem of education, in that case, or to the problem of the city's services and infrastructure. We also found that half of the participants, half of the participants indicated that this initiative represents a new learning and education opportunity for them. By reading what the others said and exchanging arguments, they were able to know what the others thought about their viewpoints. Almost half of the participants reported that they participated mainly motivated by a strong civic duty. We asked the participant about their expectation in the process, and we found that 32 percent of them believed that their ideas will mainly contribute to inspire others. We also found that 31 percent of them expected their ideas to be a study, and a quarter of them thought that their ideas would be implemented. Here it's interesting to notice that people decided to participate, even believing that very likely their ideas will not have an impact. Talking about the impact of these processes, we found that technology allowed people living abroad, Paraguayans living abroad, to be engaged in processes oriented to address issues in their home country. 13 percent of the participants reported to be abroad or to live outside of Paraguay at the moment of these processes. We also discovered that technology has the potential to engage people not civically active. Forty-four percent of the participants reported not having both in elections in the last years. But mainly the main impactful result of this initiative was the possibility to directly influence public policies. Among all of the ideas proposed in the voice and vote initiative, the first one I present, the political party that organized that initiative, especially promoted one of the ideas inside the municipality. The idea about creating a plan for garbage recycling and classification. After some time, the municipality took that idea and transformed into a pilot plan, and deployed the pilot plan in some neighborhoods of the city. Then to this pilot plan, the municipality was able to recycle more than 20,000 kilograms of garbage. An idea that started in a platform during a public consultation process and ended up having a huge impact in the situation of the city, in the cleanliness of the city. Finally, I would like to close the talk by sharing with you the main lesson we learned from running this initiative. First, people show to be more willing to participate. The discussion topic is about day-to-day issues or issues that affect their daily life, such as their cities, infrastructures, and services. Then when the main theme of the initiative is about a broad and complex topic such as education. Second, we found that promoting exclusively through social media is not an effective method to attract participants. We had really problems trying to drive traffic to our platform when we used a structure process, promotion strategy based on a weekly impersonal Facebook post. However, we were more success when we had the candidate of the political party that organized one of the initiatives inviting the public to participate through his personal Facebook profile. Third, one of the most common feedback that we collect through the surveys and interviews was that the people wanted the organizer of this initiative to be responsive. They wanted to see that the organizers cared about their contribution. They wanted to know what the organizer thought about their proposals. For some of the participants said that they wanted to see more clearly on the platform, what will happen with the ideas when the process finishes? It is important to set the expectation of the participants by clearly communicating the goals of the process. In both initiatives, we were currently asked about the future of ideas. People asked, if someone will read, if someone will study my idea, if we will present the ideas to the corresponding authority, etc. They want to know what will happen at the end. You have to be clear with that. Lastly, one of the main comments that emerged from the participant feedback was that they really appreciate the effort of setting this process up, but they want to have an impact with their participation. They don't want to spend time crafting ideas and proposals if nothing will happen at the end. They want to have their ideas on practice. One of the key aspects that differentiate the voice and vote initiative, the first one, from the education one, apart from the topic and the promotion strategy, was that we had on board a political actor with the power to push forward ideas, proposals, and needs of the people. On the other hand, in the main concern of the people that showed to be interested in the education case was not seeing the ministry of education a part of the organizers or a sponsor of the initiative. Given then the impression that this was only a toy process or a toy initiative that we were running for, I don't know, research purposes. All of these lessons that we learned in these two cases, we are putting in practice in our ongoing initiative about renewing the an iconic part in the city of Asuncion. Thank you so much for your attention. I hope you find the talk interesting and useful. Thank you.


This disease that my mom had, cesare syndrome, it's a cancer that arises from your cutaneous T cells. The cancer that we were analyzing here is a lymphoma. Lymphoma is a cancer of T lymphocytes. T lymphocytes normally are regulated very closely within the immune system in terms of what allows them to grow, to proliferate, and what controls them and prevents that growth and keeps it in check. The issue I faced was my mother had wonderful doctors there in Kentucky. I had a wonderful technical team who was going to generate the raw data for us to see what was in her genome, but I didn't have anybody on my team that could connect those two things. The TGEN group, working with Dr. Sekulik, found every single finding that mattered in my mom's clinical case. My role focused on taking all the raw data, which consists of millions and millions, and I guess somewhere around a billion or so small reads that are 100 letters a piece and mapping them back to genome to identify those differences unique to the tumor that was taking over her. I was the informatics aspect. The biology aspects, interpreting what it means to have an amplification or a tendon duplication of CTLA4, CD28, the biology of that. For that, I had my partners, John Carpenter and Alex Sekulik, Tim McDaniel. We got the data, we performed our analysis, and something floated up to the top. There is a gene on chromosome 2 that controls the growth of T cells, and that gene was altered in the tumor, what we call a fusion, where two aberrant genes fuse together to form a protein that should not be expressed in the cell. And that protein makes a T cell want to grow and continue to grow and never stop growing, which is essentially the foundation of a lymphoma. What the tumor did is it actually put the extracellular component of CTLA4, the inhibitor, fused it to the intracellular portion of CD28, which is the activator. So every time you try to stop that cell, you basically just accelerate more. The FDA had just approved a drug called ipilumamab to target one of the partners of this fusion. That blocker now would block, we reasoned, not a true CTLA4, but it's not blocking a break, it's blocking a new driver. And as my mother stepped into Dr. Goman's office one week after her first infusion, he took one look at her and he could immediately see that something had changed. Instead of being red, her skin was now a much more healthy pink color. Just in that short time, all the tumors in her body started closing, shrinking in size and getting better. It was immediately apparent that something was going on following the treatment with this drug that the genome had identified. We don't know how common the CTLA4-CD28 fusion is, how important it is in driving other cancers, but this way we can basically put out there and say, we saw this event, we identified a therapy, the patient went on the therapy, the patient had a response. Those are all important things. The question is, is that seen elsewhere? Within about two months of that first infusion, the disease started coming back and when it came back, it was fairly rapid. And by the end of November of that year, my mother succumbed to the disease. You look back on it and you think, if only we had had that drug and if only we had had the sequencing, when my mother was first diagnosed, on the other hand, you can think how lucky we were that she happened to be there right at that moment in time when all of this was first possible. And you can also look at her case and see it just as a little glimpse of what's going to be possible for patients to come.


So hello, I'm Kristen Joy and this is your writes at work and our guest today is Colleen Fontana, an educator at the Fair Work Center. Welcome Colleen. Hi, thank you for having me. Well, thank you so much for meeting with me to talk about workers' rights in Washington state. Can you start by telling me a little bit about the Fair Work Center and your job there? Yeah, of course. So the Fair Work Center is a nonprofit in Washington. We have an office in Seattle and one in Yakima and we're focused on really building power for workers through labor rights education, enforcement and organizing. So today is our last episode of your writes at work and our topic is documenting and solving workplace problems. And so we have learned about many great laws that protect workers. But we also know that despite these laws, many people, especially immigrants, still have poor working conditions. So Colleen, why don't more workers speak up about their rights and problems at work? That's a really good question. There truly are several barriers. I think a basic reason is a lot of people don't know what laws apply to them or don't believe that they have the protections that they hear about. And then even once people hear about these new protections, there's a lot of fear to speak up because of retaliation. You might think you will lose your job. Many people do lose their jobs when they speak up. People experience discrimination at work or harassment for speaking up. A lot of fear around different immigration issues or if your immigration status is mixed or you are here undocumented, then there's a lot of fear to speak up. Additionally, there are language barriers that can make it really hard to talk to your boss. So you mentioned retaliation and as a base building educator, I'm sure that you talked to workers who have been retaliated against. Maybe they've lost their jobs. Is that legal for an employer to retaliate against someone? It is illegal. So no, it's not legal to be retaliated against. You have protections against that regardless of your immigration status. In our first episode of your rights at work, we interviewed Muhammad, a former baggage handler at SeaTac. And he said he was the person who was willing to speak up. He was willing to take the risk. So once someone like Muhammad is ready to speak up or take action, what are some good first steps? Yeah. So one thing is to really just think about what it is that you're hoping to see from the situation. What are your goals and is it happening to anybody else? I think the main first step would really to be to talk to your coworkers, see if this issue is happening to multiple people, because it probably is. You're probably not the only one experiencing this. But if you have other people with you, you will have a stronger case and you'll be more protected. And you also will be probably able to cause bigger change in your workplace. Again, thinking back to our first episode and Muhammad's situation, he told us that he took pictures of the dirty break room. And he also photographed fellow Muslim workers praying in a parking lot, putting their safety at risk. In general, is it a good idea to document problems or gather evidence to show that your employer is breaking the law? And what are some ways to document a violation of your rights? Yes, that is super, super helpful. That was a really good instinct of Muhammad's to take pictures and just show exactly what was happening. There's a lot of things that can be considered for proof of what's going on. But pictures as one example, also your pay stubs or time cards, if you work in a place where you clock in and out, or maybe on a computer, maybe on your phone, some places use apps, all of that. Those different systems could help if you need to prove, yes, I was working or look, this is how many hours I worked over time or I didn't get my break and you can see it on the schedule. But other things too that maybe feel less official, you know, even just text messages with your boss, I have talked to some people who work in homes where they don't have electronic systems, you know, as a house cleaner maybe so they text a lot with their boss and we were able to show in the text messages. Yes, I arrived at this time or there were questions about the work that was being done. And also just even your own calendars or notes that you're taking about work. And even if you don't have any of that, your own testimony is proof. What are some options that workers in Washington State have to report or to try to solve a problem at work? Yes, so one option of course is you can call us. There are several organizations, community organizations in Washington that are supporting workers in understanding their rights. We can also support you in how to connect with your coworkers that might be even intimidating to do as well. And then also through other kinds of enforcement, you know, maybe you don't feel ready to file with an agency which I'll talk in a second about who you could file with but maybe you're not ready for that. Maybe you want to just some help in calling your boss, right? Maybe there's a language barrier or you want help just writing down your issues on a letter that you want to share with your boss. Things like that. And then there are some agencies both at the city and the state level. So in Seattle we have the Seattle Office of Labor Standards. And that is for any of the protections that are within the city of Seattle. And then if you are working outside of Seattle, then we have labor and industries, which is a state agency, and you can also file wage theft claims with them. Excellent information. Is there anything else you'd like to share with us about documenting and solving workplace problems? Yeah, I think just the last thing is that you have three years to file a complaint. Really you coming forward could change the environment and the impact for so many other people and you're really not alone in this. So we're here to support you and that's what I want to leave you with. Oh, thank you so much, Colleen Fontana, educator and organizer at the Fair Work Center. I just wanted to say goodbye. I feel a little sad that this is our last episode, but I hope you feel stronger. You have the information and the inspiration you need to talk to your coworkers, educate others and stand up for your rights at work.


Now, what about the claim that the Palestinians were displaced, turned into refugees by the Israelis in the 1948 war? The large majority of Palestinians fled out of fear of the violence their own leaders were initiating. It was not necessarily the Jews they feared, but the conflict itself. In some cases, Palestinians left their home because of coercion by their own leadership. While Israel did occasionally drive out small numbers of Palestinians, this was due mainly to unplanned military considerations. Indeed, the dominant attitude among Palestinians at the time in the late 1940s, early 50s was that they had been victims of their own leadership who had deserted them and had promised them a quick return home rather than victims of Israeli hostility.


Okay, hi everybody. Today I'm just talking with Alan. Alan, we met over Facebook and now Alan is actually a full-time accountant and then he'll talk more about his story as well but now he does e-commerce at the site. So it's a supplemental income but he wants to grow into a full-time income and I just want to hear his story and how he is like transitioning into that as well. Okay, so I mean Alan do you want to show them your store first just to show like what are the results prior. So before we met right Alan you're doing I remember the neck massage thing. Am I correct? Yeah, yeah like the smart neck massager.  Yeah and I guess that's your first foray in and then what's the it was quite bad I'll say sorry right. Yeah I mean you're absolutely correct like when I started that I think I was like happy if I get like one or two sales a day. Okay like I think when I was just going into I really didn't know what I was doing. I did I just see people doing it on you know YouTube or you know on the job shipping forms and just say hey this seems easy you just go put a product on a store and hope people come to your site and buy it right. So yeah there's lots of I didn't understand about like how to create like marketing angles offers that you know I learned through your program. Okay then now how many sales are you doing like consistently? I think I hit you know a couple like 1k days here and there which is awesome that's kind of like my goal going into this but I always say I'm averaging around like five six hundred dollars a day. Okay and the profit margins around what 20-25% I'm guessing? Yeah the profit margin is I mean like like if we don't count Facebook ads my margin is like 80%. Okay we count like pure profit. We count pure profit it's like 10-15. Yeah 10-15. Okay so now it's just more like transitioning to how to scale up.  Am I great? Yeah yeah it's like I I realize I realize more now like on things like what what makes something sell right so I realized more about like what what what makes a great offer but I also realize the kind of limitations of like certain products I choose right because like I have I so I can share like I'm doing rose bears right so on this product it's basically like a nice gifting product you know it's like a teddy bear that's made of like these like foam roses so it's like a great gift for like you know holidays anniversaries and stuff which a lot of the stores are doing so they're all competition so it's not like the most unique products in the world but I think what helps is just you know doing the you know the whole customer persona thing that you guys do and your program Jonathan just being identified what's the pain point you know what what makes someone goes oh I have to buy this you know so you know my whole thing was I play on the whole you know COVID was going on you know people are separated from their significant others their family so hey this is something you can give them to remind them how much you love them how much you miss them so that's one that's one things that way I was like trying to angle it whilst actually saying it right because Facebook would ban you if you actually say those words so just yeah because you kind of just like to get them to feel that way he's like hey you're still looking for perfect gift you know are you missing your family like when you're in these five zoom calls meeting every day for work do you really have time to go look for something but hey man you don't have to go look any further just look at look at this ad you know just click on here and you can buy it try to make it simple for you you know free shipping and all that other stuff but yeah I mean it's going well but I the limitation in my mind is obviously it's because it's a holiday product I do better when there's special occasions coming up right like this Christmas this black Friday this like different different holidays but when those things are not around I realize some my sales do fall because of that so seasonal so for like you know for my next part I would love to take what I learned and find something that's more evergreen right that problem-solving thing that people need every day you know like a kitchen product something like they just need over and over again not just not just like one time of the year or you know a couple times of the year very special occasion so yeah I also want to go into like how I'm doing like the whole supply try to control the supply chain now also but I don't know whether you've seen interview I did with Paul did you watch that I haven't okay so basically Paul so like like you and Paul right probably the most active people in the group sorry not active people like the most action takers so that's what you see results the fastest honestly right so like Paul managed scale to 239k yeah 140k month he went from 30 to 140 right and like it doesn't matter what you are at your stage by just message you take action right and like he does he has a he you don't you have daughters he doesn't so don't you know I mean don't compare his success to whatever to yours right you're right pass you just need to just like constantly the action okay yeah I'm at it I'm at his beginning step basically yes but you know the road map ready so it's fine you get me yeah okay so I mean you share a screen first then afterwards we do a normal convoy yeah yeah I guess I think I I started a store I'll say Argus maybe no sale I guess yeah I guess I have session I didn't have sales yet yeah August 3rd let me check July try and think about when I actually start this yeah like this is this is me in July I think this is before I was really maybe just the beginning of the program I think Jonathan I think I started with you in July right so I think for the whole month in July I was only I only did $555 all right because you just get to spend I let it to you don't spend first right so yeah yeah yeah I think I was just I didn't know what was doing so I was like I felt like I was just losing money and anything anything I run I was like losing money in Facebook ads yeah because I yeah didn't understand the creatives like yeah everything so yeah it was I think it was pretty pretty terrible a future I lost a lot of money and this month so I guess yeah we just go month from month right so Argus was actually one of my first month I was like oh wow I can hit I can hit 10k so that's really good that's when we the first mental guard I'll say right yeah then we've got really into the program and I think that that's kind of what I've been able to do like in the future months like around this amount like 205 orders I think September I ran so September it was a pretty I think not a good month yeah because the reason is I realized my supplier this is this is the whole thing was basically ship shipping the the product and not in the way I wanted to like basically they'll ship the rose bear and then they'll ship the gift box but like fold it you know so it's not so because the limitation of this product is that unlike other products you can just throw it in a bag you know they can customer don't care about the appearance right the look of the product if you have anyone ever do like gifting ditch they have to realize that customer really care about the appearance of product they had to look presentable you know because the whole point is they're gonna they want to give it to their loved one they don't want to look like it's a wrapping like you know clear wrapping you know like not not very presentable look so this this is the month where I decided to scale down actually after realizing this is my supplier was doing after getting like like a lot of refunds a lot of customer complaints so I basically just decided to hey skew it I'm gonna import products so I went to Alibaba and found like a bunch of suppliers and decided to just bring it in house you know and that actually cut down basically made my margin a lot better so even though like my I would say my revenue still stays around the same because I'm still you know one of the things I'm still like having like a little issue with is like how to scale how to be confidently be able to like put in a lot of money to scale even higher numbers so I've been able to do that yet but at least somebody would protect my margins so like I was saying Jonathan like before when I was working on my supplier just like you know like from China I'll say like my just my product margin was around like 50% but now it's around 80% okay because it's so much cheaper when you buy in bulk you know like he was charging me I'll say I don't know around like 23 and when you buy a bulk you can get a $8 unit so you start dropping you do it like step by step and then once you get scaled then your cost just decreased yeah yeah yeah yeah so basically I'm just doing it like in-home fulfillment Jonathan knows I stay up really late doing that kind of thing but when you have a daughter you kind of just kind of find time to do your side hustle so that's what I've been doing so at night time I basically fulfill orders like the reason I'm showing San Francisco in the background is because like my room's a mess my office is just like full of bears behind me that I have to have to fulfill but yeah I mean just looking into it I think my I think it I think October looks better I imagine yeah exactly it's like going back up again and then I think now in November right November 27 yeah I mean for Black Friday why didn't you try scaling um it's kind of like the same reason so I did I did try I did try putting in more ad dollars it just I don't think I can do it like a very profitable that's it it's just just the product that's yeah it's yeah my product I think has some limitations in itself so right now I'm just I'm actually looking just to you know finish up this the stock inventory I have left so I bought 300 units and I sold 180 so far right so I have 120 left so hopefully I can make a big push like a big discount push for Christmas and just get it all out and you know try my hand at next product well I'll just knowledge I gained from doing this and knowing that the potential is there right because like like I showed you the beginning I was only doing 500 when I was doing my Netflix I was only doing like 100 yeah I remember yeah yeah I'll sell like I'll sell like I think I was selling for I don't know 3999 4999 so I'll sell maybe like two I'll make me like 80 a hundred dollar at most yeah like my ROAS was like like pretty crap like 0.5 0.6 you know so I was like this is not working I don't know what's happening but yeah to even to even reach this level I'm kind of like just knowing that how to set up the offer how to set up the product page you know it's very liberating right it's like it's like it's like it's repeatable right I'm gonna say that's the best but worst so I would say next time I'll learn more I'll be more like Paul like to do a problem solving a product then more like a giving product giving products law has a lot of headaches because um you kind of need to control the logistic supply line yes too closely you know because like in whole fulfillment takes up a lot of time so if you go if you just break it down by ours it's probably not worth it um especially when you could be spending this time looking at more like top level strategy doing more like you know scaling doing more Facebook creatives like more than that but honestly I'm I'll have my time fulfilling which is great I'm getting like a lot organic reviews people like people like the product it just I'm not doing it at a scale where you know it's very profitable yep I'll say yeah I understand so so like even for me right when I when I started I'm scared as well right but then once you hit like 10 20 30 40 50k right then you you you get confidence in yourself to do this over and over right so for me like now like 100k per month it's like it's not it's quite bad to say up it's like it's like nothing like that you know I mean it's like desensitize in a sense so for you right what do you think is uh like the barrier for you okay besides fulfillment or do you think okay I'm actually ready to start scaling like hit higher numbers it's just more like logistics is not able to support my ambition now yeah so uh I would say like the the biggest thing is well there's like just two barriers one is in no fulfillment sucks up too much time right so the right move is is um if I'm doing it as a scale I go and buy like I go and really invest in this business by two three thousand units that's only those are numbers that make sense if you're going to go to fulfillment center because they they have like like these lobbies like monthly storage fees and things they charge so you want to give them a large quantity too when you break it down it's worth it you know that's one barrier is basically I got I need someone else to do fulfillment I can't do it because it's taking up so much time so like I'm afraid to like if one day I can I do like 30 40 orders a day right I don't I will be up till like 6 a.m doing orders myself right so it doesn't make sense that's one barrier second barrier is uh because I'm focusing so much time on fulfillment it's it's taking away time where I'm supposed to be learning you know Facebook ads I'm supposed to be learning uh how to make better creatives right because like obviously uh I could always I I know that creative cells right just like you make a you make a killer creative you you can sell a product so I I need to I see that my you know my CTR is only two percent get how do I make a creator that can hit four five percent right like that that just drastically increased your uh the scale of your store just from that so uh those are things that um I need to get better at but I also need just just need to go focus more time that because uh like Jonathan knows because I'm a family I only have a certain amount of hours right it's fair it's fair like say people like I'm not as hard-working as you yeah yeah so like I'm like I'm like just every day I'm like hey how do I fit as much as possible in three four hours you know and if two hours is done was spent fulfilling they only have two hours left and you know two hours not a lot to focus on a business that you're trying to make it into your full-time thing so that's kind of like what I learned from this like inventory oh man guys make sure someone else is doing that for you because you have to inventory yourself you can be taking up too much of your time and it's not not helping the big picture yeah understood understood okay so I mean okay you can stop trying now okay yeah yeah yeah so I mean uh I want to know from your standpoint right okay so now now we know your journey uh how did you start like how do you get into e-com into like internet marketing all these things yeah so I guess um from the beginning I was just like a lurker I would say I was like oh this is kind of cool there's a business called drop shipping where you know you never have to touch the product you're just acting as a middleman and someone else gets it I was like okay that's cool but uh honestly I got into it like really started like say hey I need I need to jump in is because um well like a like a personal work issue where you know when when the pandemic happened all the all these companies started like laying off people furloughing people and things like that well alchemy didn't want to do that right so they decided just everyone had to take a pay cut which is very devastating by most people they're expecting a certain amount of paycheck and then they get a pretty big cut so I realized you know just depending on one stream of income is pretty narrow minded and scary really when especially we have a family so um I was really motivated at that point basically to do something about that so I wanted to diversify my income stream so I mean this was isn't 2019 or 2020 this is in uh early this year so I would say March right when when the COVID really really happened okay yeah when COVID really happened this year so that's when I really jumped in I think I started thinking about it in 2019 November December I didn't take any action I just read read read it red forms you know like follow YouTube baron you know Gabriel you know all those guys and like say oh yeah this I think I can do this but seems really a lot of work but but then once you know something really affects yourself you're like oh shoot like I got to do something about it so that's when I really took action and then you know the rest of story I kind of try out a few products didn't work out I actually got kind of semi-scammed by one one kind of one like mentor guy and because he just didn't really provide any value he just told me to start like a general store yeah and uh he didn't really he just like he just his method would just keep trying like he is like you know how you have a very yeah like you know how you have a very structured like product page that you set up correct that of like certain days you want to see in certain places but for him it's just throw it onto your page and do it no run it for three days doesn't work new product doesn't work new product until you hear something okay those really like really like throw something in the wall and hope it sticks kind of way right which after a real after a month I realized this can't be the right way to do e-com yep so that's why I feel like I got semi-scammed but for him he says yeah this works if you do it enough enough time like I don't know 200 products I guess one will eventually stick right like people will eventually buy it but I don't know yeah but obviously I didn't really fully understand what I'm supposed to be doing until you know join John John's program so that's kind of when I started but and we want to go really back you know when I when I was in high school I want to make some money to buy a car so I was thinking of drop shipping airpods you know okay too far too far wait so I mean like you started on your own right took action I remember when I met you for the first time I met on zoom and then you actually made sales already right but oh yes because I saw one of your videos that you posted on one of the forums and then I kind of just reached I was like I'm just gonna reach out to him what the heck and you were really nice enough to you know put me on a call and then quickly realized like you know you cater to very high clientele like six seven figure guys right it's like okay I'm nowhere near but you were nice enough to give me some advice anyway saying hey I don't think this part is gonna work you know I don't it's like just too too saturated because I think you told me like someone else came to you with the same product right and yeah it wasn't gonna work and and then later on is when you introduced the training program you had okay but I said like because at that point you were really doing something but you're just facing immense difficulty right so I just want to know from a standpoint because now I see a lot of things probably like expert lens or whatever you want to see call it right like from your beginner lens right what is the difference between from when you're doing it alone versus getting guidance like what is the breakthrough there I want to know what you know what is the actual thing that gets you the results that like what we saw just now oh you're facing tremendous difficulty you stuck a wall right you're like keep smashing traffic you don't understand why you're not getting results in a sense yeah right so what is the shift yeah I think the whole shift is just like when you're a beginner and you're doing it alone there's so much different voices and advice you know like every day someone's posting hey I'm a pro I'm an expert you should follow this method right and you're like okay I'm gonna do this and then next day someone else post something you should be doing this then you go follow that method so you have no confident in what you're doing like you do it you get results you're like oh okay great I think I think I'm doing what I'm doing is right right or you do it you don't you like you don't know what went wrong you know because there's so many different elements right that goes into it and the difference between getting like someone that you can trust to give you the right guidance is he's telling you a hundred percent this is going to work because look I have case studies that says I hit seven figures with these products like like trust me to do this method and and it takes buy-in too right you gotta you gotta be like hey I okay I I'm gonna do everything he says I'm gonna do the homework you know and like really execute on it and you know that it was it was hard honestly like to do that but I was on the mindset like this is my last try you know because I was always spent I always spent like three months to work for money on it I was like you know if I joined Jonathan's program it doesn't work out like I had on my calendar like by October if I don't even hit like a if I I'm serious I'll take my phone later but I said put on my calendar if I don't hit like a 1k 1k day by October like I'm done you know yeah and I and basically through your program I was able to do that by October so that's why I was it gave me the motivation to you know buy both products and keep going but yeah I'll just answer your question like the main thing was just having a system you can believe in and just be able to follow one instead of like all these different voices out there correct correct I think it's very scary right like if you're beginning and everyone keeps telling you different things you literally don't know what is the truth anymore right yeah so like why that's exactly right but that uh I guess I want to understand your psychology where it's like you bought from me means you trusted me enough right why why trust me over literally anybody you get me that that's something else as well so I why would you trust me versus why would you buy my stuff versus someone else's uh honestly uh I guess what gave you the edge is that call before you try to sell me on the program you know like you could have been someone just that just be like yo you're not my type of clientele I'm looking for you know you're not making nearly enough money and I can just like you just you know go f off you know like you know you're just too small fry you know but no like but the fact that you took the time to understand where I'm at you know to uh give me some advice on it and and then and honestly like I I still hesitate it because like I told you I got scammed from the kind of like scammed from the other guy yeah I asked you a ton of questions you remember uh leading up to it like I didn't decide to join your program till the last day like you're telling me hey this is 24 hours left like you got it so it's really 34 hours so yeah it was it was and then I I was just like I was talking to my wife about it I was like yeah like you know he seems very genuine he seems like a nice guy I don't think he's trying to you know like scam me this time like I want to I want to believe in in human nature one more time yeah so I think it's really just came down to I saw that you were like you know just a kind person that didn't wasn't out there to scam people you were really trying to teach something that was going to benefit me if I put in the effort to learn it right and and honestly uh I was still hesitant going into it but then that week one was like got me shook you know no like the week one when you were talking about the offer too much information is it no it was the week one was just like mind-blowing you know like that week one was probably worth the worth the money right there because that week one I was just like okay I was doing everything incorrectly yeah you know that week one yeah yeah you know what I'm talking about I know yeah yeah because like everyone everyone was just kind of like just watching you go to the slides and like in silent and they're like I think a lot of people on the call was like realizing they also did things that yeah yeah yeah how they're supposed to you know because they're just learning random things saying like random gurus telling them oh it's easy just put up a page you know right three bullet points that's all you're to do you know yeah great do you do you realize that um on the outside like uh before before joining anything right you always see the the results in the case studies right but then in week one I don't teach you the results of case studies or ads do you realize that I don't even teach ads because ads is not important yeah so like like from there I think you really understand like how to get results nowadays yeah yeah yeah week one we're just solely focused on like the angle the offer and the customer right side so it's yeah not even on the ad side yeah yeah correct so I mean like from this bear thing sorry bear product right what do you think you'll be moving to what's your next step for you um honestly like after getting this experience with um you know bringing a product in like in house and learning the hopeful cycle I would say of e-commerce um my I think I think what I really really realize is I don't like like purely drop shipping a product like I don't like just taking someone else's like and something that anyone else can copy right like what I realize is if you can if you can learn the funnel if you can learn how to market if you can learn how to put together a video ad the skill set essentially yeah security you really should be looking at something that no one else can copy from you easily like say you put together this amazing funnel right but then you just do network soldier well someone can just take that and be like well I found the same supplier that that has this product like what's what's what's stopping him copying everything I did all my hard work you know nothing right and then because basically that that stops my future growth right so my next part is definitely something that's going to be more um I would say well like a white label right something that's more my own something I can confidently put my own uh logos on there something that I can say this this is one of a kind like you can go google search but you're not going to find this again like right now they google search Rosebeer they can find file to sellers and that's the problem with me you know like they can find other people that sells it so they uh when I use like the app like lucky orange right like you know how like when you see them like browsing your store you like why and you they're like why why do they stay idle for like 20 30 seconds you know what they're doing they're pressing another tab they're google searching this thing can I buy this cheaper someone else they're literally that's literally what they're doing I'm sure you know that they always call that come back just so and then they exit out your store yeah so I I think uh dropshipping is a great learning ground where you can learn about how to do this right but at a certain point when you really want to take this seriously you need to find something that you have some kind of you know passion for and make your own like you know go go find manufacturer to change something of that of a product you see on the market or find something that you feel like you can confidently put your label on it and you can you know sell it as one of a kind product that no one else can copy so that's kind of what I'm seeing if I do another product in the future yeah there were some haters will say uh ellison accountant so he's good math so he's definitely good at what do you have to say that uh I'll say they're like dead wrong I think johnny can contest on it I don't I'm not I'm like super uncreative okay the things I struggle with the most is uh the non-number side of things like I I understand margin I understand what I need to make money you know I understand break even maybe even point is that those things were super easy for me to understand from your lessons right what was hard was what people care about an ad you know what what's a scroll stopper like what what makes an ad good you know what what's a marketing angle like how how do you understand customer pain point you know how do you write a long form ad copy you know like those things I like struggle with like it's like an accountant like you don't you don't think in those terms you know you're you're just a straight number guy right you're a number nerd yeah you're one you're one lane because that's what I expect you to be right you're like oh hey you do tax right yeah you do that right but no it's like seriously like I wasn't at all focused on the other side and I think I think you had these you had this later lessons too about how you know it's important if you're gonna take this seriously where you can do this full-time to grow a team right so so then you focus on your strength and then you can you know put all the things that other people may be good at on your team and have them do it you know have them be the creative guy so I think that was very very important to talk about if you if you are someone that has time single and through this full-time that that I think that's something you gotta look at down the road so I mean you you have daughter you have a family you're doing this full-time how do you manage your time to balance is it like nine to five like work then just afterwards it heck it open up as measure let's go go go like how how does it really is like that Jonathan like you know I finished my job around 6 p.m but then I have to go pick up my but you're working remote now right you said yeah yeah at home so I'm at my desk working zoom meetings and then around 6 p.m I can get off but I have to go pick up my daughter dinner time with her bath time with her put her to sleep so by that time all that done is around like 9 9 30 I'll say so I'll say 10 p.m the same time too for me to start working on my side business and then Jonathan knows like I don't I don't want to do this but it's kind of like if you want to if you want to if you want to believe in your hustle you got to put in the time yeah I think it's like unrivaled honestly yeah it's no other way honestly like so I would work till like 3 a.m most nights when I was like especially especially during the during the coaching sessions like this because you only gave us one week to turn around things you know like I think I was one of the ones that actually got that product page done in a week but it was a lot of which tells you a lot right but a lot of the week it was a lot of 3 a.m to get that yeah I just squeezing a lot of 3 a.m to even get that product page done in a week right but I'm the type who was like who turns in my homework even in school you know yeah I turn in my homework and I was like my teacher gives me homework I gotta do my homework so I I did it and I turn in for for feedback but I was like because that was kind of like I was mentioning this is kind of like like like my last hurrah my last try at seeing this e-com thing will work for me so I didn't want to half-ass it yeah sorry excuse my language but yeah I didn't want to like do that I want to make sure I'm like fully committed to it even with my limited amount of time but but like those of you out there who has more time I would say like you could do this you can do like a way better job and wait easily like if you look at me who only have three four hours a day and can do semi okay you know get like 10k months then you guys can do like 50k months like right off the bat probably yeah so I mean like for people listening right you understand like Ellen has work ethic like uh there's one the one of the sessions like the the court is like 12 people and it's like all of the 12 people only like four or five of them actually do the work even though I tell them it's homework and then the the people who have least time do the most work which just tells you how lazy people are so like if you just do the work you're gonna get a result it's like not it's like no way you won't get a result it's yeah and and like Ellen like put 3M nights like how many people will put in that amount of effort yeah right so I mean you you can't teach work ethic that one is like forgotten conclusion uh but yeah okay it's I mean it's very important and it's very hard and then I will say like uh you know one piece of advice whoever's listening is like it's probably really great if you can get yourself a partner if you get yourself a partner it's very you can motivate each other you know to do the work because I know Paul has someone that works with him right correct correct they're done yeah they're gonna kind of like hey you gotta do this man you like they keep it accountable like for myself I kind of just gotta like look at reminders look at my phone it's like okay I gotta do this and it's it's kind of like I know I only have this much time you know I feel like sometimes people have too much time they're like oh let me go watch some Netflix first before I start on this but then they limit themselves right they're like you had eight hours to do this but then you're not only down to three hours like Alan is you know like why exactly why you can do a so much better job you know like I'm like just hustling trying to get something done when I might make mistakes along the way but they they can check everything proofread everything make sure like you know how many spelling mistakes in their ad copies making sure like you know everything looks good for me I'm just like oh please please don't make a mistake please stay awake enough to check everything yeah understood and that's like very restructible right so I go on one question I guess what what what do you think is like from the outside versus inside what is important do you think okay we talk about taking action right taking advice for other people like we all the mindset stuff we all know that but what do you think is the main change for you now versus then don't say confidence again it's not confidence I want to know what tactic or what like you're talking about mindset no no like what tactic or strategy do you think actually move the needle for you if that makes a technical strategy oh oh definitely definitely the product page okay I think why I mentioned week one was so mind-blowing was when you show us the correct way to you know format a product page that sells right that converts right because from what you teach and what I had before was like 180 degrees difference you know and that's why it works so hard because I was like this just makes sense I don't understand why I haven't been doing this like if you have all these elements you have the testimonies you have the benefits in a certain way the features in a certain way like people are gonna start trusting your page right and that's kind of what I was definitely saying move the needle and I was definitely saying that's something that can you know that you can keep improving on like once you really believe in your product like if I really want to continue this long term say like Rose Bear was something I believe a long term right something I would do is basically hire someone to do a custom page right make sure to my low speed super fast you know so they lowest the bounce rate things like that but still keep the same format right the formatting had to be that that way so yeah the product page lesson that you gave us was I would say 100% what gave me the success I have today okay okay that's great that's great to hear yeah okay uh okay so I don't want to take more of you a lot of your time uh last question I guess what uh what is your wife think of this how how do you plan to uh move forward from here I I know you said you want to move on to a different product as well I also talked to you about hey think think a long-term time horizon so I don't think so short term stuff what do you think your next six months so would look like yep um so there's a lower question yeah yeah uh I mean honestly speaking um so I mean just just speaking frankly right so Jonathan when uh in his program he does two one-on-ones at the end of his program so really like kind of evaluate and talk you do about future plans right and it was one-on-ones Jonathan was like you know you can actually now that you know how to sell online you don't have to focus on product you can focus on selling service you know you can you can take your accounting skills and you know start an agency do something like that so like one of the things I'm thinking about is yeah you know if since inventory has its own problems right making like returns and all that stuff why don't I sell a digital product right why don't I use these marketing skills about uh customer pain point and then put it towards what I am you know what I major in what I'm when I'm actually naturally good at you know and it's something that resonates with me so something I'm like one of one of the things I'm thinking about is that kind of path is that I take in a marketing skill I have but apply it to something that I've been doing all my life which is you know my career path which is in accounting and finance so yeah that's something I'm kind of thinking about and um my wife is uh supportive kind of when you're a family man Jonathan when you'll learn this part later on you need your wife to have a buy-in you know you need your wife to be accepting of whatever you're doing because you know you've got to think as a like a family you know because what you do affects her and of course you rather I spend more time with her right and the kid right but but as you understand I'm doing it for a very pure reason I'm doing it because I want to make sure if you know for you know God forbid I lose my job or something else happens I can provide for the family that's my whole motivation of doing this every day is why I lose sleep yeah why I'm like sleepy at work you know is because it doesn't matter to you yeah it's because I'm thinking about I'm thinking about my daughter I'm thinking about my wife I'm thinking about putting food on the table so to me there's nothing more moving than that so um you know what the things I learned I want to create a path where you know I can create some kind of my next product with service can be something that can you know really have a long-term play element to it something I can I feel like I can do and you know hopefully just be the main source maybe one day you know that's that's really the ultimate goal is finding a financial freedom and not be tied down to a nine to five I mean that's I think it's everyone's goal that they're probably watching this yep


I'm Love Malone CEO of the gradient group. My mantra is execution, execution, execution. That mantra has meant to me since I was a child that execution is the most important thing. I was taught there are three places that you can be in life. You can either be in stands on the bench or on the floor. People that are in the stands are talking about everybody else who's playing, they're watching, people on the bench are either too scared to get in or they're waiting or they're planning and the people that are actually executing in life no matter what part that is they're actually on the floor playing. So I always question am I playing, am I executing? This mantra is important to me because I was told as a child this and being able to like look at myself as a child through who I am today and just striving to be the best I can be every day. I use this mantra in my personal and my professional life whether or not that's in loving someone or being loved you know you got to just do it or being in business and taking chances that are not easy and there's a lot of risk by taking a shot and you lose the game but you could win the game too and the only way that you know that is if you're playing. I try to spread the spirit with my team by giving them space. It's okay to fail and I'm not going to be mad at them what I'm mad about is if we don't try. I hope I show that to my team every day by making sure that they try hard they try big and if we fail we fail together.