Okay, we're back live here in San Francisco, California, Oracle OpenWorld 2012. This is siliconangle.com, theCUBE. Our flagship program, we go out to the events, extract the signal from the noise. I'm John Furrier, the founder of siliconangle.com, and I'm joined with my co-host. I'm Dave Vellante of wikibon.org, and we're here with Vu Nguyen, who is an infrastructure engineer at the NASA Jet Propulsion Labs, a NetApp customer. Welcome to theCUBE. Thanks for coming on. Oh, thank you. So, we're here at Oracle OpenWorld, and what do you think of the vibe here? It's interesting, fun, exciting. Yeah, glad to be a part of it. What brings you to OpenWorld? Network Appliance has asked me to come and speak about the Mars Science Laboratory, which a lot of people know as Curiosity, and the recent events related with Curiosity. Right, the Curiosity project. So, tell us about the... Tell us about the Mars Initiative. That's sort of... A lot of people are interested in that. You know, there was a period of time where it was sort of the world questioned whether or not we should be exploring Mars and then sort of NASA went in that direction. Give us a little history of that program to the extent that you can. The whole idea behind Mars is actually, we're trying to understand Mars better in terms of its geology, and the more we know about Mars' geology, it actually helps us to understand better our own Earth's geology. And so the concept here is actually, the more we learn about the geology on Mars, we might actually understand how and why Mars might have lost a lot of its atmosphere, lost water and things of that nature, and how it might actually come back and assist us in understanding our world better. Now, so, we were talking off camera and I made the comment that probably not a lot changes even with the Mars project for 10 years, right? Starting in 2002. And I had made the comment, not a lot probably changes on Mars in 10 years. So that's not the case. It changes in a decade. It changes, and actually it changes quite often. And in a lot of cases it changes in a surprising way that we hadn't anticipated. In particular, it's actually just over a period of, I believe it was within a year. I'm not quite sure in terms of the amount of months, but we experienced a case where the MRO orbiter flew over basically a mountainous region and the initial images showed that there was nothing there. It was just like just barren as a side of a mountain. But on the second pass, we saw what appears to be like some kind of a liquid flow. And so that in itself is very exciting because we hadn't anticipated that. And we're not sure whether there's water, either liquid carbon dioxide, or some other kind of liquid, but obviously there's some form of liquid coming out. So that in itself shows that there's a lot of change that's happening on a planet that we have thought that it's fairly lifeless or fairly static. Well, I got to ask you because obviously we're here at Oracle Open Worlds by databases and all that tech-boring stuff, compared to what you work on. And just two weeks ago, I had a chance to watch the space shuttle and never fly over Silicon Valley. And people had that moment of like, wow, it's like an end of an error from going back from the 60s to today, but a whole nother level of science is taking place that you're part of. Share with the folks two things. One is, what's the feeling within the science community that you're involved in around that end of that chapter of endeavor? And then two, what new things you're exploring in science and in space in particular that's truly exciting, share with them, get people excited about it. Because a lot of people, this is not a niche market. People were really emotionally moved by that shuttle experience. And there's a lot of science and math and geeks out there who love spaceships and science. So take us through the emotion of that event and then what's the new frontier like now? In the case of the discovery and this shuttle in general, even though the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, we don't have direct link or work related with the shuttle, but we ourselves feel quite saddened that you're right, it is an end of an era. And we see new efforts going into getting more manned missions, more humans into space. But again, it's sad. It's like seeing a sibling kind of going away on a college trip or going to school that we're not going to be able to see them again and things like that. Not quite seeing them for a while. Retirement home or something like that. But so yeah, we are quite saddened by it. We felt that it was a hard program and it was definitely appreciated and needed. And with that, what's the new stuff that's happening? Because the project that you're involved in is exploring the science side of things. And we'll get into the big data conversation in a second, but what's the new exciting things? A lot of people are now after that event are trying to understand where the action is, where the excitement is. To kind of simplify it a bit, going back to the Murr project, which is most people are familiar with is the Spirit and Opportunity Rovers. If you think about it, that mission launched in 2003, around June time. There were two spacecrafts, but if you look at the technology that's associated with those spacecraft, compared to the technology associated with curiosity, just something as simple as the images that come from those two spacecraft.  So you know. We're not rocket scientists, so you can do that. Yeah, so you can kind of view it as taking a, you know, something like a VHS image and looking at it.  So that in itself is a testimony to much more data. So, you know, we encounter much more data coming down and also the difference in terms of technology, you know, where we're actually having to do with larger data and also being able to examine and analyze images and things like that, you know, in the case of science. I was talking with a high school student just a couple weeks ago and I said, you know, what are you interested in career-wise? He's like, I love space and science. I go, you know, what do you think that will turn into? And he said, this is just, you know, complete naivety. I think the answer to our energy problem is somewhere in space. Just the kind of this, that unconsciously competent kind of vision. Just a little bit out there. I mean, it's a stretch to say that, but share with us, given that kind of future leader that might someday be part of the science community. That's some of the things in science. What is going to come in and discover? What's the discoveries that are out there that you see? And that's being talked about in the science. You can oversimplify it, but just an vision standpoint. What are the new breakthroughs that are coming out of the data? I really can't talk much about the data because I'm not too involved in the science teams itself. On my side of it, I'm on a team that basically performs real-time operations. So in a lot of our cases, we get the data to come down and we process the data into what we call data products and then we pass it on to the science teams. So that in itself expands multiple times up and above so it gets really big. In terms of science, I really can't say much because I'm not on the team. But in terms of just the sheer storage and the data sizes that are coming down, expansion rates and things like that, it definitely pushes our limits in terms of the amount of storage and data that we have to store. And so we always have to reevaluate what kind of infrastructure we have in order to accommodate more and more data coming down because we never remove anything. We hold on to every piece of data because we never know when we might come upon a particular day's worth of work on Mars where we didn't realize we discovered something until the scientists and all their folks come back and they reevaluate the information and they come back and they go, hey, we found something interesting. Let's go back and take a look at it. And if it's a major event, it actually might explode up and above that. So you know. So the data access to the data is key. You got to search. So you need to have some sort of data store that has a low latency. Talk about some of the challenges there and what the new tech you're using. Especially in the down lake, we're expected to process the information at real time. So we are required to expand data products at a certain rate and the scientists and other teams expect that data to come in so they can actually perform their level of analysis and also planning for the next day's worth of missions or where to go, where to drive, what rock to look at, what kind of geology we're going to do, what kind of basically chemical analysis and things like that. So the data comes down, you process it in real time essentially and then it gets archived? It gets archived, it gets stored, let's say that way. It gets stored and then also that storage in itself, the other teams can actually pick up that data and actually continue on with the processing. Okay, and so it's never really archived. It's sort of, it's perpetually archived, I guess. It will go off to, it will eventually be archived. But it goes into more like a storage state than it is an archive. So we store it and then as it gets older and older, it'll probably get into an archive state, but even the archive state, the project wants the data to be always online and readily available so that it's an actual archive. So you've got essentially three tiers, right? You've got the processing tier, the storage layer, which is the sort of mainstream. And then somewhat the archive tier, yes. The kind of the archive, and which is the most storage intensive? Can you talk about those? It's the processing. It is, okay. The processing is most intense. Why is that? Can you describe sort of the type of data that you're ingesting and how you're handling that? It's the type of data is actually telemetry coming down. And the telemetry has in it broken into basically what we call channelized telemetry. And that breaks out. We actually process that. We break the channels out because each channel serves for a purpose. Some of it's science data. Some of it is engineering data. I mean like spacecraft health and things like that. And so it just depends on where it goes. But that information has to be processed in near real time so that the scientist and the other teams can get at their data. So you're getting a raw data stream. We're getting a raw data stream. Okay. And so you have to put that into some kind of format that's consumable by the scientist. Right. Yeah. The format that comes down is, compression is not the right way to really say it, but it's a form of like compression. And so we have to expand on it and process it. And prepare it. And can you talk about how much data you manage?  I'll give you one, you know, a couple of cases. We're just starting to do a lot of the science. So curiosity is very new. So it's very fresh. So we don't have really, we have an estimate of how much data might be coming down. But so far, we're getting something in the neighborhood of, I believe it was 128 megabytes per day. And that in itself is expanded on at least, at least 30 times. And then that's just from the initial ground data system, doing that expansion. Up and above that, the science team will actually probably process it further. And I'm not sure what the expansion rate on that would be. Okay. And so talk about your storage infrastructure, if you would, what does it look like? And how has it changed over the last 10 years? We've gone through numerous vendors, but ultimately, you know, we have a requirement for the infrastructure to be fairly robust. It has to survive, you know, minimal downtime is required. We do have a window of opportunity where, you know, maintenance can be done, but it's far and few in between. So, and scientists and engineers expect the data to be available at all times. Because, you know, you don't know when they might, like again, come back and reevaluate the information that they have already. So what's the infrastructure look like?  We have a set of servers, we have... We have... We use NAS servers. Yeah, we have a lot of NAS servers. And we also have SAN Attach for our databases and things like that. Okay. So you store in files? Yeah, basically, the databases is a method we use for searching. It has, contains metadata. And the storage is actually just on, you know, files are just stored on NAS stores. Is object storage something that you've looked at? No, we have not looked at that. No? No. I think it's too early for that. At this point, I'm not sure. But, you know, it's something that we will evaluate with the future missions that are coming on board. So big data is a big part of it. Obviously, you guys got to collect data and then get to access to the data really fast. So a lot of batch storage using Hadoop, but you guys using what kind of technologies you guys using for the store, the backend. The backend, we have a lot of network appliance to handle that storage. So you're building schemas out when you store all the data? I'm not going to talk about that.   All right, well, we're almost out of time. Getting the hook there. Trying to drill in, find out what he's got in there. I mean, NASA, they got to keep their secrets top secret. So almost had an answer there, Dave. But we'll be right back with our next guest here inside theCUBE, Jet Propulsion Lab, doing some great work. Obviously storing data from space for discovery is a big deal. And thanks for coming inside theCUBE, appreciate it. We'll be right back.


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Well, she can't see you waving your hat. Why don't you throw a rock at the window? Well, I wouldn't do that. Want me to? No. I'm on to you, honky. What? You didn't come to take me home. You came to take Miss Tuttle. Well, it's great. Miss Tuttle, once you're right, of course, I'll be happy to take it. Okay. See you at dinner, happy. All right, my boy. Leroy knows how interested I am in Grace Tuttle. Are you going to read me like a book? Well, I'll just wait. She'll be out in a minute, I guess. We might plan something for Friday night. Teachers like to get away from it all. Is that you, Mr. Gildersleeve? Hello, Miss Henshaw. Yes, indeed, it's me, E.I. How's our new principal? Fine, thank you. I want to ask something of you before you get away. Well, if it's about Leroy's grades, he's a slow starter, but I'm sure by Christmas... Oh, no, no, no, no. It's not about Leroy. I wanted to ask if you'd be kind enough to be one of our chaperones at the school dance on Friday night. Friday night? Well... It's our first dance, and we want some of our school's most distinguished friends. Thank you. Of course, you usually have couples chaperoning, and I'm not coupled. You want to be alright if I asked to escort a member of the faculty? Mr. Gildersleeve, I prefer that our chaperones didn't escort faculty members to the school dances. However, it's very nice of you to ask me. Well, I... I hope you understand. Yes, indeed. Of course, if you really want to do something nice for me, you may drive me home this afternoon. Home? Well, I certainly... yes, indeed. I have such a tremendous load of papers to carry. It'll be a big help. I'll run and get them. You're alrighty. Hmm. You're letting me to ask her to the dance. Well, I hope she hurries. Grace sees me drive off with her. She might misunderstand. Hello, Doc Morton. Grace. May I get in? Well... I saw you waving to me through the window, but I couldn't wave back at the moment. Nice of you to wait for me. Well, as a matter of fact, I started out waiting for you. But right now, I'm waiting for somebody else. Oh, yes. What happened to Leroy? I saw him here at the car. Yeah, he ran off to watch football practice. Well, are we just going to sit here until that's over? Grace... Uh, what's the matter? Are you out of gas? Just about. You see, I'm waiting for Miss Henshaw. The principal? I'm supposed to take her home. Oh. Funny thing, the way it came about. I was sitting here in the car, and I just waved to you through the window when Miss Henshaw came along. Excuse me, Trot Morton. If you don't mind, I'll hear about it another time. What? There's Miss Greg. I'll ride home with her. I can take you both. I've got plenty of room. I'm still crowded to me. Goodbye. But Grace, goodbye. Hmm. I'm still trying to call Miss Tupper. I've got to explain about this afternoon. Do you want me to hold dinner? No, we'll eat, Bertie. I'll try later. We don't have to eat now. We can have it or hold it. Well, let's have it. We don't have to. We can hold it. Never mind, Bertie. If you want to get your car too, I can bring a tray to the phone. No, thanks. You eat all the tray in the television. No reason why you can't eat all the tray talking on the phone. Bertie, just put the dinner on the table. Yes. We can have it or hold it. Yes, yes. All right. Put down the tray. The table, Bertie. The table. You want to answer the phone, honk? No. I'm sure she isn't avoiding me. She undoubtedly stepped out. Yeah. After you threw her over for the principal, she probably threw herself in the river. No, Leroy. She probably walked ejectedly to the riverbank, looked into the dark, swirling water, and said, farewell, cruel world. Confounded Leroy, this is a serious matter. You're fighting it, honk. Maybe this is fate. Fate? Why date the seventh grade teacher when you can be going out with the principal? Where's your ambition? Watch it, young man. You can go right to the top. Leroy, I'm not interested. I am. Then if Miss Tuttle gave me a bad grade, the principal could change it. Leroy. Well, our kids got to think of all the angles. Miss Tuttle is an old and dear friend of mine. Well, Miss Henshaw is a stranger in town. Yeah, but what a keen-looking stranger. Yeah, I think I'll try grace once more before dinner. Why doesn't she answer? Well, that's right, Bertie. I could have held it, but you said put it on. Yeah, I know, Bertie. So I put it on. You want me to take it off? Yeah, I'll be right there. If you and a stew with your girlfriend, it won't hurt my stew. Oh, all right, Bertie. You know why it won't hurt my stew? Because stew ain't what we have in forever. Miss Henshaw? What can I do for you this evening? You know nothing, Phoebe. Just killing a little time. I'm due at a big function this evening. I noticed during your blue surge, dedicating a new water main, are you? No, Miss Henshaw, the principal, asked me to chaperone a school dance. You don't change. Yeah, I wanted to have a date with Miss Tuttle, but Miss Henshaw said no taking faculty members to the dance. Miss Tuttle was in the family this afternoon. She said she was going to the dance. She is? Oh, you'll see her after all.  If Grace couldn't understand why I drove the principal home, what would she say when she sees Miss Henshaw has invited me to chaperone? She'd say that two-time and water peddler and it's over the head with your own bucket. No! Oh, Phoebe, let's face it. I'm in a jam. If you use your head, you can get out of this. Even if you don't take Miss Tuttle to the dance, you can take her home. Say, that's an idea. I remember back in my cutting days, I took a horse to a dance and brought Mrs. Phoebe home. You what? Of course I brought the horse home, too. We were in your buggy. Well, I didn't think you drove Mrs. Phoebe home. Oh, man, no. There's any driving to be done. You know who'd be in the harness. I'll never forget that night. It was cold and winter in. We had to snuggle up a little bit to keep warm. Yeah, I'll bet. That was the night Mrs. Phoebe said yes. Well, that's the night you proposed? I didn't say anything. My teeth were chattering and when I got down on my knees to buckle my galances, she said yes. Phoebe, you're kidding. But when I go to the dance, I'm going to take your advice. You're going to propose? No. Now, when I get a chance to speak to Grace, I'll just ask if I can take her home. That's what I think. Well, I'll be on my way, Phoebe. Very well, but that'll be 25 cents. 25 cents? Well, you didn't buy anything. I should get something for the advice. Good night, Phoebe. This is for the dance. Boys on one side and the girls on the other. You wonder if Grace is here yet. Oh, there you are, Mr. Gilda Sleeves. Good evening, Miss Henshaw.  Yes, indeed. You know the water commissioner. Always on tap. Fine. Since you're alone, I wonder if you'll be kind enough to take charge of the record player. You misspend the platies? Well, delighted. Good. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go greet the other chaps.  Yeah, let's see. What have we here? Yes? Hello, Leroy. You in charge of records? Yeah. Put on dragnet. Leroy, how can you dance to dragnet? Who wants to dance? Play it and we'll clear out the joint. They'll think it's a raid.  I got it already. I'm dancing with Piggy. Piggy? You're supposed to dance with girls. Well, they're on to me. I've got two left feet. Well, go dance with Ethel Hamishrod. She'll dance with anybody. There's Grace. Oh, my God. She's pretty. There's something about her red head and the green dress. Yo, Grace. You. Surprise. Oh, my God. Morton, what are you doing here? Miss Henshaw invited me to Chaperone. Oh, so that's your principal reason? No, Grace. Hang it up! Play something! Just a minute, Leroy. Grace, you've got the wrong idea. There's nothing between Miss Henshaw and me. Well, I assure you I won't stand between you. Grace, I'll explain everything. I'm not interested in an explanation, particularly. My first thought was to invite you to the dance. But Miss Henshaw said I shouldn't bring a faculty member. Oh, she did. You know, Grace, don't take it personally. She doesn't even know we've been going together. Does it have to be a secret? You don't know. No, as a matter of fact, after the dance is over, I'd like to take you home. How about it? Well, I don't know. It was very embarrassing the other day when I had to get out of your car because you were waiting for her. It wasn't my idea. And it won't happen again, believe me. I'll meet you at the door right after the dance is over. Well... Grace, you know there's nobody but you. You do sound convincing. That's because it comes from the heart. All right, Trot Morton. I'll meet you at the door.  Hey, Aunt. What is it, Leroy? Are you going to flip records or just flip your lid over Miss Tuttle? Young man. I'm not going home. Hi. Smart boy. As she's waiting at the door, I'd better hurry. Just a moment, Grace. Hello, Miss Sencha. Nice party. Wasn't it? I want to thank you for being such a splendid chaperone. You're glad to do it. Well, good night. Before you go. Yes. Would you help me close the windows and lock the auditorium? Me? Right. Unless you're in a hurry to get home. Oh, no. I'm in no hurry to get home. Yeah, I mean... Wonderful. I hate to be in a big, empty school building all alone. You're right. You're right. I guess it won't take long.  Now, this window always sticks. Will you help me pull it down? You know, I think I can manage Miss Sencha. She'll finish this job in a jiffy. Yet. Yet. Yet. It's coming. Oh! Right on my finger. Oh, did you hurt your finger? I'm terribly sorry. Let me see. Oh. Practically nothing. Oh. I wish you wouldn't hold my hand. Dear, I'm afraid you're going to lose this nail. You know, well, I've got nine more. Let's close the window and get out of here. Oh, excuse me. 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The least Grace Tuttle can do is give me a chance to explain. She isn't usually like that. She has me plenty of chances in class. I can never explain anything. Well, the one sure thing, Leroy, you ain't learning as much from them teachers as your uncle is. Yeah, I'm getting a Ph.D. in the School of Hard Knocks, Bertie. Yes, and you're getting an L.L.A. to go. What's an L.L.A.? Let Love Alone. Yes, yes. Well, I've done all I can. I tried to phone her, gone by her apartment. I even sent her a note by you, Leroy. Yeah. What did she say? Nothing. She just corrected the spelling. There was nothing wrong with the spelling. Yes, there was. You spelled explain. That was not an E. I just forgot to dot the I. Anyway, you flunked. It's awful. Don't worry, Aunt.  Who's miserable? If Miss Tuttle chooses to believe I'm becoming interested in the school principal, well, I'd George all accommodate her. You mean you'll admit it? Well, I'm not interested in her, Leroy, but I will say she's attractive enough. Mr. Kilsie, they ain't gonna be caught without a good-looking girl. Oh, Bertie, if I make a date with the principal, it'll only be to teach Miss Tuttle a lesson. Leroy... Yeah, I'll show Grace Tuttle she isn't the only pebble on the beach. You'll have a notion to phone the principal and ask her for a date right now. Hello, Peevie. I don't know, Mr. Jones, what can I do for you? Well, I want to use your phone. Where's the directory? Right here. Yes, thanks. How was your dance the other evening? Peevie, that's a sore subject. Miss Tuttle stepped on your toes. No, she won't even talk to me because she's jealous of Miss Henshaw. Now, I'm gonna give her something to be jealous about. My, my. Here we are. Right here. Irene Henshaw. Mr. Gildersliever, you're sure you're doing the right thing? You know what they say about rebounds or man. Though I'm not rebounding, I'm snapping back. You seem pretty confident, Miss Henshaw. I'll give you the date. Well, why shouldn't she? She hasn't been here long enough to know anybody else. She doesn't know I go with anybody. Is this Miss Henshaw? Yes. This is Throckmorton P. Gilderslieve, your chaperone par excellence. Remember? Oh, of course, Mr. Gilderslieve. Well, I thought you'd like to know what a good friend of the school thinks of you. I certainly would. I hope I'm doing a good job. Oh, yes, indeed. In fact, this friend thinks you deserve an evening out. Away from children. Me? You all right? First, you wanted to take me to the school, then. Yeah, I did.  Yes, I did. And I suppose such perseverance should be rewarded. Yes, indeed. Would you like to pin the medal on me tonight? Well... You didn't need a medal with all that brass. You need the recreation. It'll all work and no play, you know. Perhaps I do. Would you like to come over about eight? Yeah, I'll be there at seven forty-five. Goodbye. Bye-bye. Hot dog. Peavey, wrap up your best box of candy. I'm very happy you've got the date. Yeah, good old Peavey. You like to see me win out, don't you? You tell me the truth, Mr. Gilersleeve. I like to sell candy. Good evening, Throckmorton. I've enjoyed it, too, Irene. Just think. A little while ago, it was Miss Henshaw and Mr. Gilersleeve. You know, I was Irene and Throckmorton. Well, I'd better go in now. Well, so soon? Why can't we sit here in the port swing a few minutes? It's a mild evening. Well, all right, for a minute. Oop. Someday I'll come by and bring my oil can and take the squeak out of those chains. It'll be another excuse to see you.  You're fine. All right, George, I'm glad I got the idea to call you tonight. So am I. The movie was fun. Most men seem to think they have to take the school principal to the museum or some such place. Well, he ain't going to get me into any museums until I'm prehistoric. You know, Throckmorton, I didn't realize there was a moon tonight. Well, he probably didn't know we were going to be together. Yeah, I don't see it. Where is he? Just coming up through the trees, right there. I can't quite see it from here. Mind if I move over closer to you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You must be able to see it very well now. If Grace could see me now. Grace, I mean Irene. Yes? I take you to the junior high football game this week. I think that would be very nice, but are you sure you want to ask me? What do you mean? You just called me Grace. Yeah, I did. I didn't mean her. Could Grace by any chance be Miss Tuttle? No, Irene, she doesn't mean anything to me. As a matter of fact, I'd like to take you to the game and sit right where she can see us. Oh. Yeah, I don't know what you heard, but... I'm just beginning to hear quite a lot. I had no idea you were going with Miss Tuttle. Oh, I'm not. Since when?  All of two nights ago. So that's why she acted so strangely when she walked through the room. Well. How could I have been so taken in? Now, Irene, Miss Henshaw. The children at school try to work angles all day. I thought I could drop my guard at night. But... I must go in, Trockmorton. Wait a minute, Irene. Don't go in. We scarcely know each other. I think we know each other. Good night. Miss Henshaw. No game? The game is over. No, Miss Henshaw. How was your date last night? Don't mention it. Is it all right to bring up the moon? It looked very romantic last night. I felt like throwing rocks at it. You don't care. TV? I'm off women. Why I ever got mixed up with two school teachers I'll never know. Yeah, every man isn't too smart. He shouldn't get mixed up with teachers. I've gotten smart. I'm through with teachers. I take it Miss Henshaw didn't want to compete with Miss Tuttle. Who's the worst mistake I ever made? Trying to go with two teachers or like trying to go with two sisters? Yes, your right hand is pretty sure to know what your left hand is doing. That's an astute observation. Women. Good evening, Mr. Peavy. Well, hello, Miss Peavy. No. What can I do for you this afternoon? I need a new lipstick. Okay, well. Yeah, I'd say the one she has is perfect. We have quite a selection here. If Mr. Gildersleeve will excuse us. Yo, I'm in no hurry. No, no hurry at all. Go right ahead, Peavy, and wait on Miss... Miss... Miss Parrish, you're new in town. I wonder if you've met our distinguished water commissioner, Mr. Gildersleeve. How do you do, Mr. Gildersleeve? I didn't know you, Miss Parrish. Mr. Gildersleeve is not only the water commissioner. He's one of our most eligible bachelors. Really? Oh, Peavy. Well, I'd better select my lipstick. Oh, and I see you have sunglasses. I'll need some if I'm going to the football game tomorrow. Okay, well. Do you like football, Miss Parrish? No, I never miss a game if I can help it. Well, I plan to go tomorrow. Oh? Since we're both be going. Perhaps you'd go with me if you're not busy. You tell the eight swim and... Well, I hardly know what to say, Mr. Gildersleeve. Well, you might say yes. Mr. Peavy here will vouch for me. In fact, he already has. Oh, yes. You'll be safe with Mr. Gildersleeve. I'll go. It sounds like fun. Great. It's a date. It's a date. After all, when a girl comes to a new town, she has to make new friends. Yeah, you're right as rain, Miss Parrish. By the way, what brought you to Summerfield? I'm a new first grade teacher. Oh! The great Gildersleeve will be with us again in just 30 seconds. When you're shopping tomorrow, get a green cap bottle of craft oil at your grocers and along with it an entry blank for Craft Oil's exciting Name the Cade contest. The winner of this contest gets a new Ford Victoria every year for five years. Or you may win one of 1,800 dollars. The winner of this contest gets a new Ford Victoria every year for five years. Or you may win one of 1,850 Dormire electric appliances. All you do is name Birdie's luscious new cake made with craft oil. 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What's going on everyone Sam here with late in sports cards and I am doing 2022 panini legacy football hobby six box break number nine random teams here is the list of the teams that you got in the random give it one second to take a look at what you have Again, you can always find these results under the results tab on the website as well as the link in chat so good luck everyone let's get ripping on this my literally my first um first one i've ripped this year not done any legacy yet so i'm actually pretty excited give me a second to uh figure out exactly what we're looking for and we'll go that way legends andre reizen how good they have the the jerseys on this belly zappy got the marcus wear to 100 marcus wear base okay i was a little worried this is going to be uh like only college products so i'm happy about that legends hurtus martin uh can he pick it rookie stealers there you go okay legends dallas clark rookies is uh vealish jones wandell robinson got chrome that is treylon berks that is um under the lights he is a titan and under the lights kenneth walker seahawks that is to 35 and excuse me the treylon berks was to 149 there you go two chrome cards nice rats on that seahawks and titans legends uh baddest got david bell jeremy ruckert and brett barb decade of dominance got kenneth walker seahawks daxton hill got kenneth walker to 150 there you go nice one there seahawks and for the ages cooper cup got garrett wilson rookie jets there you go and uh type one thorton got mini card is under the lights josh allen not numbered erin rogers i already said i'm gonna hate not flitting that got karson strong gotcha that's the way to do it there stingley texans got uh that james cook nice rpa heck yeah 249 that'll go bills congrats on the james cook their bills andrew p nice one man christian mccaffrey we are strong under the lights kyler murray not numbered trying david pierce evan evan neal rookie that's gonna go uh giants got jabonte williams to 100 and time machines tony gonzalez not numbered isai spiller jordan davis uh shon alexander bed read got chrissa lave saints sky more chiefs under the lights uh brian robinson jr aiden hutchinson lions there you go david ajabo ravens got nice to 75 aiden hutchinson rookie auto congrats lions nice hit there three out of 75 nice hutch let's go riner locker behind that solid one that was a great box actually jermaine johnson to 299 welker pierce romeo dobs got bailey zappay to 50 on the mini card edgy wane christian watson packers freeze hall jets generations mossom j jettas vikings and last pack here we go one brisker jahan dotson football team or commanders drake london rookie chrome not numbered falcons all right that is box one on debauched got uh tray mcbride sam howell uh george pickins to 299 stealers rink gore and walker seahawks taxon hill orance taylor tolbert uh trivon walker odell backham classic catch odell backham there aiden uh john mechie sauce gardener got uh kibon tibit oh under the lights chrome silver there you go giants sticky here should be a hit i'm assuming yep uh jimison williams lions i say a likely ravens got kelvin austin the third dual patch auto there you go not a hundred percent sure where he is kelvin austin the third pines ward john's gonna look up where kelvin austin is really quick here wilson rookie person strong got john mechie orange under the lights for 149 pexons stealers kelvin austin is a stealer thank you john i appreciate that uh damien pierce pierce strong pierce strong to 150 yellow and uh ram stafford warner colson your stingley patent manning base insert i should say son haskins close your mini card is my home's not numbered a little bit of a corner damage there we'll send an empty box with the chiefs see if you can get that replaced without that chiefs there you go keep going here see what we can find out of some legacy we got blue coming up uh desmond ridder falcons kyle hamilton bless you bless you thank you kyle pits that's two out of 50 falcons there you go nice one there he's gone and got uh drake jackson george pickens rookie got john mechie to 25 on the yellow cracked ice texans congrats on that hit their texans nice john mechie Curtis martin mini card went flying out we got uh jesson jefferson to 50 vikings i do not like those at all james cook brian robinson jr brian dawkins uh andrew booth drake london and adan hutchinson chrome rookie lions for the ages justin talker nice one there ravens uh jermaine johnson trailing berks and desmond ridder under the lights um did you print out the results yeah you just double check that it says number nine instead of ten it says nine okay and i just thought about that so freaking myself out so really good i had to change it david bell jeremy rocker got michael parson's to 299 cowboys strong alexander i'll do it for box two legacy to 205 all right i'm gonna be a little behind after this one my apologies everyone what's up catch up on the next one for sure because i know what i'm looking for billy zappy i like this got to andrew reisen to 150 base strong elie they're x dingley texans desmond ridder chrome falcons hitting this one you're strong some haskins we got isis spiller that's gonna go to chargers nice one there that is to 249 texas saying i'm by way of the chargers grass chargers ferrell asison ray to 299 chiefs fran parkinson got kenny picket rookie stealers jones uh mini-card tray mcbride not numbered keeshawn here's christian watson base got brice hall going to the jets under the lights rookie autograph nice one there out of 100 34 out of 100 congrats jets base george pickens rookie andrew booth got tom brady on the mini cracked ice nice one of 10 congrats box was not expecting that one nice one there bucks alvin cook break london bride base uh sam howell over there kenry under the lights john randall brice hall jets got jeremy rucker to 50 jets there you go on the chrome nice one jets uh kenzie i believe right yeah kenzie uh travon walker jags john mechie what's up tonight and tomorrow kind of walker to a hundred seahawks bonde barber uh jeremy rucker and kind of walker got wendell robinson what's up jj yeah of course man thanks for jumping in uh johan dottsin washington and mcduffey obj i appreciate it jj western hill and garret wilson base rookie radshaw justin talker i'll do it for box three baseball everywhere pristine uh 37 yeah i got you i got you rich sorry about that that was the first one of the day right 37 tomorrow morning 9 30 fun man good luck to everyone on that one yes sir it's kind of picket rookie uh hasan haskins rookie titans gotcha okay yeah i got you no problem rich sorry about that right after this break is over sky more chiefs chrysalavet tony gonzalez to 100 falcons base james cook bills got uh breeze hall to 25 uh blue there you go jets a couple of nice breeze halls bolden got uh drone ford williams tiki barber base elie main johnson trellon berks here strong on the chrome rookie pats got aiden hutchinson lions david ajabo liam parry brow panthers got jaquan brisker to 25 there you go uh bears nice one there little sims time machines giants cave on tibito giants got auto that is malik willis under the lights congrats height ends there you guys go nice one there heck yeah and brady decades of dominance like willis oh wait is i'm like willis like willis rookie there you go got red mild sanders 299 for the ages watson breeze hall green tj hawkinson to 100 the baddie power gordon got many of isaias spiller to 75 bronze shannon sharp there's sanders here's evaniel marcus allen got jaquan brisker johan dotson there you go got mini breeze hall not numbered jets both rivers single terry isaias spiller jordan davis under the lights johan dotson last pack of box 124 yeah absolutely that'd be awesome like yeah grants on all the grizzly stuff dude tremp mcduffy bailey zappy only the best in each pack got derrick stingley jr rpa that'll go texan six out of 99 nice one there grants on that texans nice hit and my hopes i'll do it for box uh four onto box five yeah sometimes they are especially when they're numbered i would say jj but you get like one between one and three a box i'd say give or take that was clark for karen williams jameson williams rookie chrome silver that'll go uh lions by way of alabama here's evaniel under the lights isaias spiller shod's uh john mechie texans sauce gardener jets got isaias spiller 40 out of 50 going to the chargers there you go nice hit there chargers elie jameson williams rookie isaias likely chrysalavak from saints got isaias spiller again rpa to 249 chargers got uh three isaias spillers and one break crash chargers good spot to have there uh drake london falcons tray mcbride kvon tibodeo uh orange cam jordan the 199 saints warren sap malik willis rookie got uh darren waller mini 250 raiders ronde barber for the ages yeah gonna probably be like five minutes behind guys sorry about that that's on my that's on me sam howell david uh howler beaty got legends 299 bow jackson i know how to open these and what the setup is now so should be good to go down goes the brady mini there you go under the lights jillian tulver trivon walker jags tire baby base desmond ridder falcons kyle hamilton uh legends that is dallas clark 37 of 100 green colts burrow and a saison haskins got uh erin rogers brett farf to 115 out of 100 there you go packers obj here drake jackson hinds ward james cook and last pack of box five george pickens andrew booth and we guys this pillar again to 149 dude there you go chargers one sec guys hey box six good luck daxon hill carrot wilson rookie under the lights josh allen got uh karson strong uh red that is dany gray for the niners to 2 299 sam howell right behind that yellow to 150 washington there you go commanders ace they're stingley texans ace just got with the dobs christian watson sub shade to 100 riner locker decades of dominance based on that you sure you can't spare 123 mil real quick shame spare change i know it's like pocket change for you brice hall archquan brisker this is sick we've got dalvin cook to 65 that's really cool vikings what is this it's like uh oh this has got to be a case it right dare to tear oh is that like a rip card like allen ginton opened the middle of it oh wow oh wow that's sick you have to let us know vikings if you uh decide to rip that fair jahan dotson base trep mcduffy aiden hudgensen bronze the 100 lions window robinson silver ah gotcha gotcha got fair enough fair enough fair enough yeah oh absolutely understandable kenneth walker seahawks to 249 jumbo rpa there you go Bailey zappy that was off for four straight days so i'm like if i i'm just gonna come in like there's no real reason not to you know i wasn't doing anything uh orange keenan allen 199 uh all right so i got back on sunday night kind of just my birthday was yesterday so i just hung out pretty much didn't really do anything went out to dinner with heather and then hung out at the house uh andrew booth vikings the 199 clumpson color match uh drake london palkins trannick ride got mini it's going flying kenneth walker to 50 seahawks base Earl Campbell san howell pretty bad honestly i would say jj jo jo burrow 225 mini i'm the color match orange it seems like it it might need to hit something that blew everything out it wasn't like it was a big nest just hit the right place it hit the right place yeah shut everybody down around here got dachston hill base rookie auto bangles nice one there bangles grats on that dk and last pack go in here now of course we are travon walker jags and coby brian on the chrome that'll do it uh for the break and do a quick recap of our autos here got uh dachston hill bangles kenneth walker seahawks isaac spiller chargers isaac spiller chargers derrick stingley texans malik willis uh titans grats titans there brice hall jets isaac spiller uh chargers john mechie texans calvin austin steelers adan hudgensen lions and james cook bills congrats to everybody on that one thanks again for joining next up more legacy


Key leadership engagement to our KLE is an opportunity to strengthen our relationship with our Afghan partners. It really gives us an opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder with them in this fight. A couple of big things come out of these key leader engagements. From the Afghan side, they get to have the effects of having the world's greatest fighting force in their corner. It's a confidence boost. And from us, we get to watch the fairly young Afghan military grow and progress into an effective military fighting force across all world fighting cultures. We go into a fight together again, and we have an opportunity to learn from each other through tactics and techniques, as well as they have the knowledge and expertise of the area. And we go in there and we give suggestions and kind of fine-tune the security while ensuring the security of our own individuals. Again, it just strengthens that relationship. When you can sit on the same table with individuals and they see that you're there and you're willing to help and you have their back, the trust and confidence in each other just goes through the roof.


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More than anything, the big bad wolf, i.e. the scariest illness or disease of our times is without a doubt cancer. Now I think understanding why cancer happens according to Chinese medicine is very very interesting because it's not a point of view you'll typically hear in conventional medical care and it's also something that helps explains other aspects of cancer, for example why it comes back after treatment. Now in this video I thought we talked a little bit about why cancer happens according to Chinese medicine. Hey I'm Dr. Altine, doctor of Chinese medicine, author of the health book Master the Day. So before we jump into this video there are two very important links right below. The first is if you'd like to become a patient of mine locally in Los Angeles or virtually via telemedicine you can contact my private practice right below this video. The second link is for a free guide which is five daily rituals that can potentially help you add years to your life with Chinese medicine. Now let's talk about the progression of cancer for a minute because I think it's important to understand that in many ways cancer is this a chronic disease fundamentally for many of the kinds of cancer not all of them some recur in young people and are very aggressive obviously there are more aggressive kinds of even breast cancer while many are not so there's a lot of nuances here but generally speaking we think of cancer as primarily a chronic disease and that's important to think of because most of what kills us in America is chronic disease it's heart disease cardiovascular disease is a big category, cancer is a big one a lot of people that are chronically ill are chronic digestive diseases even pulmonary diseases so chronic lower respiratory diseases according to the CDC kills about 152,000 people per year and other chronic conditions like I think Alzheimer's is considered a chronic condition and diabetes strokes so a lot of this is cardiovascular nature but cancer in one part and for some cancers we still think of as a chronic disease and chronic illness and that's very important because it means it does not come out of nowhere it comes from somewhere and it's typically slow growing and slow progressing so that's very important number one so let's talk about a simple progression right let's talk about someone who has acid reflux every day they're experiencing burning burping indigestion sourness or bitterness other digestive changes and that's a very common disease or pathology pathological progression that for many people leads to nothing it's just chronic reflux but some people will develop barits esophagus where the actual cell type changes reflux can be a risk factor for barits which is more severe than reflux and barits a certain percentage will turn into actual esophageal cancer last time I checked the stat was around 5% anywhere from 3 out of 100 to 10 or 13 out of 100 so you have the chronic disease a lifestyle disease acid reflux which is very common a small percentage may progress to barits or maybe one of the risk factors in addition to other factors leading to barits esophagus which is more severe and then a small percentage of barits will become esophageal cancer statistically speaking so that's how we can look at one example of how a fundamentally lifestyle problem progresses and then progresses to a point where now this neoplastic is cancer neoplastic activity okay so this progression is very important to understand because we're going to talk about this from a chinese medicine point of view right now the mentors I worked with and my doctoral work studying spontaneous cancer emissions for many kinds of cancer there's first and foremost what we consider a young deficiency a young deficiency in chinese medicine basically just means there's either an overuse of resources and exhaustion a chronic functional disruption for a long period of time whether it is something digestive like reflux or it's something else going on like hormones or something else going on in that way but fundamentally first there's often some kind of young deficiency so what that means is that the person's resources have been taxed just like someone who gets sick frequently right if you're overworking you're not exercising you're not eating well you sleep six instead of seven and a half hours and suddenly you're like you know this year I got sick four times once per season and that's not common for me that is a young a resource deficiency leading to the development of catching a cold or catching the flu we do it the same frankly regarding cancer some of them in chinese medicine so there is a resource depletion that leads in the terrain in the body in the immune system that leads to a susceptibility for something else to be brewing and that's very important number one now young can be depleted through stress through overwork through over exercising through all these lifestyle factors that can damage us and basically make us weak for lack of a better word anything that makes you exhausted is damaged to your young basically in one way to encapsulate it now some people are genetically weaker young this is kind of the person who tends to run cold weak digestion often thinner paler this is a weak young constitution so this is a person who's prone to more deficiencies and typically more chronic disease than the average person doesn't mean they're more prone to cancers but this kind of person has a weak young genetically this is a weak constitution right this is a real thing in chinese medicine you see it clinically all the time and again many cancers are still primarily correlated with age that's a very important correlation because it shows that this young deficiency this depletion of resources is one of the predisposing factors is one important very important correlation now phase two is that typically there's a prolonged period of using up our vital resources right we're overworking we're stressed out we're just not resting enough we're only sleeping six hours a night but we get through the day and we do that for like 10 years and we don't think it's a problem so this underlying exhaustion if i can call it that is running behind the scenes now often young deficiency from our perspective then leads to something that's stagnation young deficiency is like you have a river and the river is filled with all this junk and all this crap right this bottles that people threw there's hay and dirt and logs and stuff and the water isn't flowing very well anymore so the young let's just say the river is your young and the river is not flowing very well anymore it's like half the water right we've used up some of that vital resource half the water and now you're no longer able to move those logs the branches the water bottles all these kids threw in there the junk the leftover hay from the farm nearby the pesticide runoff whatever it is the river is only at half so it can't effectively move all this junk that's in there accumulating what happens the river becomes stagnant right now we have one in chinese medicine is called stagnation a most common scenario where their stagnation is long-term digestive disruption leading to gallbladder issues or reflux very very very important because it's so common and it is a big canary in the coal mine it doesn't mean that if you have acid reflux you're going to get cancer esophageal or liver or whatever it doesn't mean that but understanding the progression of pathology is very very very important because when yang is weak the river is weak and then more stuff can accumulate and one of the most common scenarios is a person has long-term digestive problems for a while or they have weak digestion genetically they just always had problems and then they start to get gallbladder distention and then eventually pain and gallbladder attacks and they have gallstones develop so this is where long-term congestion right the river is not as smooth digestion is not as smooth and now we have a kink in the system and this produces a localized area of we call heat or stagnation all kinds of different things sometimes this is just lymphatic congestion but this can go on undiagnosed for literally years i mean it commonly does now if this process goes on long enough this congestion can produce what chinese medicine often considers a kind of toxic heat so for some people the fact that they're already getting acid reflux and burping and indigestion and sourness or bitterness that is that already that is what we consider this toxic heat there is an inflammatory process going on in the gallbladder and sometimes even the liver as well so that is a clinical progression within chinese medicine that is common you see this day in and day out in clinical medicine is one of the most common issues in certainly america and developed countries so that's the example of resource depletion weak yang leads to junk accumulation now we have stagnation and even that is not by itself does not necessarily promote cancer but then that can lead to a next level which is now we have this kind of toxic heat now that's only one kind of cancer right this is more common in digestive cancers colon cancer being one of the biggest one it's obviously one of the maybe the the most common cancer in men in america right now and so this is very important to recognize because if that's the most common cancer type and this is often the progression then you have a few canaries in the coal mine to watch out for you have that resource depletion river gets junked up stagnation and then festering let's just call it that right festering so now you have this nest of logs and junk and plastic bottles and fish are going in there and dying and animals are eating the plastic and dying and it's like this mess of just junk and garbage now you still have young deficiency resource depletion but now you have this pile of junk this toxicity over here and now you have both of these issues at the same time simultaneously underlying and the acute picture this is the neoplastic activity and one final thought here why does cancer come back this is a very important thought experiment why do people go into clinical remission and then three five ten years later the cancer comes back well the most obvious answer let me cite some research first one research paper i found found that for breast cancer there was about a 30 percent overall recurrence rate that varies wildly depending on the kind of cancer the stage okay but 30 percent is pretty high for a medical treatment that's not minor i mean if modern oncology was not permanently disabling and permanently bankrupting to the patient that's sick or dying then who cares to have them do chemotherapy every day until whatever but it is so maiming to the patient and so harmful to the person that this is important to talk about why does it come back the most obvious answer is because the underlying physiological process the river was not fixed surgery is curative for many different kinds of cancer and tumors depending on the location severity all this stuff surgery can be curative but what it is curative of in many cases is we've removed all this crap but still the river is low and still new junk is accumulating the whole time the whole time the whole time the underlying pathological process has not changed and so it's not surprising that it comes back right it's like giving someone lipo and they just keep doing the same standard american diet and then in 10 years like why did i gain weight because conventional medicine typically mostly treats the symptoms of diseases they don't really have in my experience very good tools for treating the river the underlying yang deficiency and in my experience this is the forte of chinese medicine even used with chemotherapy or even used with conventional care patients tend to do a lot better and there's a lot of research on that understanding what is running in the background this whole river analogy this junk accumulation that's just one type of cancer it's different slightly different in some ways for breast cancer but the same general picture is the same and breast cancer being i think the most common cancer in women right now in history so understanding this underlying process that then leads to this localized process elsewhere before things are metastatic and that we have to repair this and that my experience conventional medicine doesn't do a very good job of that at all and so it's no surprise that things often come back but that is just my two cents i think it's very important to think of cancer from a holistic point of view integrated point of view even doing conventional care but also understanding how else can we work on this very very important all right guys that's all i have for today some very important thoughts on a very very disabling disease and cancer is often the hardest one to watch people go through cancer care because the treatments are so destructive by itself not just the disease which is destructive but these are some tips that i hope can help you or at least help you understand it from another point of view as well two other videos for you right there that may help you and i will catch you soon