Pre-season, obviously we get to work with MC McFadden, which is awesome. Our team loves her. She's been working with hockey since I was originally there in 2012. So she's gotten us ready on the turf, upstairs in the gym, and you can definitely see it transfer onto the ice for our team. So that is really exciting. And the girls were just happy to be able to be together pre-season. And to do pre-season kind of normal compared to the last season we just had. So pre-season definitely was enjoyed by the team, and definitely transferred on the ice as well. So excited to keep running with that progress. So Liberty, we obviously struggled if you look back at the game. It really just came down to we got outmuscled, we got outhustled, and we didn't really play any of our systems. So we luckily had a couple weeks to get it together and correct those things. And we really got after it last week in the gym, and we got some extra agility, some plios going, really worked on our explosion, quick starts, and our stamina coming into these next couple weeks. So we definitely learned a lot of lessons. And I think that getting humbled early on can have benefits. It wasn't a fun thing to go through. But I think in the long run it definitely made us better. So yeah, we have a few returners that were really excited about. Trinity Barclas ended up taking her fifth year. So we're really excited to have her back on for one more, see what she can do offensively, and point-wise we're really excited to see how she takes advantage of that extra year. We have Carly Aguirre coming back for her junior year. She's really excited coming in. She's had the experience under her belt a couple of years of college hockey. So we're really excited to see what she can do on the front end and create offensively for us as well. I mean, overall we're just really excited to get going. You can just tell in the room that it's just a different energy. We're working really hard on our culture and to make sure that we are meshing as a team and we're taking care of each and every relationship across the locker room. So we're just really excited to continue to not only work on ice and figure out the things we need to do to win games, but to also take advantage of the college hockey experience and really dive deep into our team bonding and what we're doing off ice that creates our success on ice.


Union, what's happening with human rights around our world on Think Tech Live, broadcasting from our downtown studio on Honolulu, Hawaii, and Moana, Ndulyakia. I'm your host, Joshua Cooper. The title of today's episode is Unwavering Unity for Ukraine and the World, Strong Solidarity and Strategic Solutions. Joining me today is Alex as the Amnesty International country specialist. Alex, thank you so much time for appearing with us today on this important historic day regarding the war in Ukraine. There is mine, Joshua. Thank you so much for having me on. Today is crucial because at this point, we have the ICJ, the International Court of Justice, which is the principal judicial organ of the UN ordering Russia to immediately halt its military operations in Ukraine and announcing the ICJ order to do so as legally binding. Of course, this order was made as a preliminary measure in a case that Ukraine lodged at the ICJ under the genocide convention in response to the Russian invasion on February 24th. Any initial comments on that, especially as Kiev is under a 35-hour curfew right now? Yes, of course. The decision just recently came up and I appreciate you measuring that. It's a historic decision indeed. The court clearly stated that it found no sign of what President Putin has been calling the genocide in Ukraine. And with that, so one of the major excuses for his invasion that is off the table, the Russian invasion is unprovoked and based on a fake. So this is now a cold fact, I would say established by ICJ, it's very important. No, and really the other important point today was really two aspects. Two world leaders talking to the world about the state of the world, more importantly about the future. Zelensky addressed Congress just this morning in DC where you're at and he spoke about for three weeks, every day, every night, Ukraine experienced a Pearl Harbor and a 9-11 with thousands of millions missiles bombing their beautiful cities and calling to end the terrorizing of their people. Tosha, your right that today is the 21st day of the brutal attack by Russia to Ukraine, but today is not, but the war has been around for eight years now. And at the sentiment that we have noticed, we have seen today on the Hill and also in White House did reflect at the general opinion both in Kiev and here in Washington DC, which is that Russia has been engaging in unjustified world crimes in Ukraine. There are compelling facts that Russia is not a set of targeting Ukraine armed forces but is targeting civilians. And what the president Zelensky, Ukrainian president was trying to pitch, if I can say if you want, here in Washington was, hey, we gotta defend ourselves. The general sentiment is that if Russia stops shooting, that means the war will stop. If Ukraine stopped shooting, that means there will be no Ukraine left. And that's why Ukraine is trying to, like I said, like pitch international solidarity and also is trying to gain access to the tools that they need, Ukrainians need to defend themselves. And unfortunately, at this point, even the circumstances are response, international community response can't go beyond some certain level. And we have seen president Biden also made a speech and he also announced a new assistance to Ukraine and that also reflects, like I said, the sentiment here in Washington and also in European captains. Yes, and Zelensky did call for a united for peace or a U-24 aimed at quickly mobilizing military, financial and humanitarian support to keep the peace and to quickly save the world to save lives. And his final message was to Biden where he said, you're the leader of the nation. I wish you to be the leader of the world, to be the leader of the world needs to be the leader of peace. So what do you think of this U-24? Was it received well? And what are some of the aspects that people are considering now going forward? I appreciate a flag question. I think to understand the bigger picture here, we need to turn back, I can mention that the war did not start now. Just because Russia, which is the largest country, biggest country in the world, has been able to invade into the biggest country in Europe for years and been able to get away with it. It wants to believe and us to believe that there's some sort of territorial dispute between the two countries. That's not true, right? Ukraine, along with other post-Soviet countries, have been recognized by the international community within its territorial integrity. And Russia was also among those who have recognized Ukraine for years. And now President Putin also wants you to believe that he had no choice but to invade because of NATO angle and NATO, and that he feels that he is threatened by this defensive organization. And that comes down to the fact that Ukraine is not turning NATO in the near future. And you have seen the world leaders said as much over and over. We also heard lately just this morning from the Secretary General also reflecting that particular fact that besides President Putin's demand was largely seen as a non-starter by the West and because NATO's open door policy since sovereign countries can choose their own security alliances alone. Now, come to the question again, the most important component to this story is the Ukrainian people, wonderful, wonderful people that President Putin never got to understand. He hasn't been to Ukraine for many years. Ukrainians want to live in an open, rules-based society, but that's something that Putin cannot accept because how else can you explain it to your own people? He feels threatened by this avenue because Ukrainians and Russians have shared history in the same neighborhood and now he has to explain to his own people. I hope to ask you a question, but this comes down again to my earlier point that Putin is so keenly focused on saving his power and this is all about his fear of rules-based democracy on his border. And what the Ukrainian president is asking today and also that's what the White House seems to have protected today is that we have to do our best to make sure that Ukrainian people are able to be capable to protect themselves because there is no end game here from Russia's perspective. I mean, if they commit Ukraine to not, let's say, turn towards the West, then who else is the next? Russia is gonna go to other neighbors and the notion that superpower was nuclear weapons arms can actually in the 21st century attack its neighbors. It does actually take us to a different and more dangerous world that we had. Very true. That's probably why the prime ministers of Poland, Czech Republic and Slovenia even took a train into Kiev yesterday to show solidarity. They recognized exactly what you said that while it's today, Ukraine tomorrow could easily be their countries and pointing out where would it stop. And maybe that's why Zelensky was saying maybe World War three has already begun and that these are the first acts. But as you have said, there's been consistent actions of Putin over the time where he actually has, like you said, in Crimea, but also there's patterns of even bombing civilian targets and hospitals in various conflicts throughout time. So this is a pattern of Putin really committing war crimes and aggression against his neighbors over a certain time. But this is maybe the first time that a country is really standing up for itself determination. The only missing part here is missing angle here is the Ukrainian people, you know, unfortunately that the present nature of, these attacks had devastating, horrific consequences to entire country. Over the last 21 days, Russian army has bombed residential apartment buildings. You can see, I may see statements on, we have very compelling statements indicating that it has bombed sacred burial grounds and shelled kindergartens, orphanages, deliberately the hospitals. Even we can see there are reports out there that they have been shelling Holocaust memorial complex and then reports about explosions in and around near the capital city of Kiev, coming even now, as we speak, that they have spurred mass hunger and have caused so many to flee their homes. There are about three millions of people, I'm three millions in 21st century, in just 21 days, that's the cost of this war.  So many countries that you have named, they have opened their borders, their hearts to Ukrainian people, they opened their homes to those feeling Ukraine. But the question that we need to answer is, what is the end game here? Again, Ukraine cannot join NATO, we get that, but, you know, that is not what we'll bother putting, you know? If you take, you know, close look at his statements, you know, he started talking about NATO's borders somewhere like between, you know, to turn back to between 19, I think, 98, 997 level, which means it also targets several, you know, current NATO members, is the NATO, the only entity that Boris Putin, you know, he, and, you know, the people around him have to talk about the European Union. You know, as you have noticed that some European leaders have been in Kiev, but they also visited Moscow for, you know, even before, you know, Russian army across the border, was put in genuine open for being talked out. So that is the question that we came to understand that needs to be answered, unfortunately the answer is not yes at this point. So it's a really important point, because if you look at the attack on the maternity ward and the bombing of Mariupol, unfortunately it's a similar pattern in Chechnya from 1999 to 2000, where they destroyed or damaged several hospitals in the capital of Bosnia, also in Syria, when he joined the Assad regime and bombing and launching missile attacks against hospitals located in the opposition-controlled areas. So even the sadder part is when they started moving the hospitals underground in caves and they used the bunker buster bombs. So really we understand that this is a long-term pattern and more must be done, that there was diplomacy efforts by world leaders going to Moscow, but you can highlight as you've raised and how amnesty has documented throughout this entire 21 days, the conflict and more importantly, those human rights violations taking place by the Putin regime. I miss international has been on the ground so we have, you know, we have folks working both in Ukraine and also this around the country is amnesty.  This, you know, increasing, you know, I would say the massive, massive human rights concern that is happening, believe me. No, it is exciting though to see how everyday people are stepping up with Eastern European volunteers leaving strollers at train stations for the arriving Ukrainian refugee families who fled only with their essentials. Those photos at the train station show that we can all do more. Also, Chef Andres with the world central kitchen serving meals and it really brings for a moment a lesson that we all need to visit more far-flung places to identify with people in other countries because there is that sense of we're all in this together because we have to stand up for fundamental freedoms but also as Zelensky said today for the future. And it is amazing to see just example of the Dutch. They have just 17 million people but they've already raised 125 million in a single day just on Monday of this week. You know, I totally agree with you. You know, this is like I said, this is the war over freedom. You know, you can people have chosen freedom and they wanna live in rules based society.  As you mentioned, Chechnya, I can even bring up Georgia and other examples for many years. Doesn't mean that, you know, the world should turn its blind eyes and let this happen on our watch. So you're right that, you know, so many people from European countries, I was at the border just last week, I actually went there even before the war broke and I saw people, you know, from different countries across the border, like in Poland, just voluntarily would offer their service, you know, their homes and they open their hearts and they try to respond.   What Putin and his folks have done in, and in Chechnya as you mentioned and in Syria indicates that, you know, you know, unfortunately things might become really messy before they get there. It's true. It's a global game that you can see he's playing and also an action of what he does inside the country to deny those human rights and information. And I mean, the sad part is you almost would say there's, you wake up in Russia, news media has been silenced, almost gone, but it was exciting to see the editor Marina actually be so brave to stand up and to hold the sign for no war and let that the state-controlled media was lying to the people and calling for an interwar. It is people inside Russia who are standing up against the new laws being passed to try to silence them and even people holding just blank signs with nothing on it as well. Maybe you can highlight some of those aspects of what's going on inside with human rights being violated, even the rule that 15 years in prison for newscasts such as this, what are some other aspects that the world needs to be aware of? Russia has a history of gross human rights violations inside the country. And you're right that, you know, what happened just with me in fact, you know, Memorial Organization a couple of weeks ago was a clear fact that, you know, President Putin is trying to rewrite the history, you know, that he imagines, he understands and uses as a pretext to drive these human rights violations beyond its border. What we're witnessing is transnational human rights, gross human rights violations that as you perfectly mentioned that it did study in Russia, in Russia community was, you know, we did document, you know, those human rights violations in Russia and, but unfortunately, you know, again, he has been able to get away with it. You know, he has been able to convince the Russian people and himself, most importantly, you know, to a wrong history. He believes in, you know, his own lies, unfortunately. You know, what Memorial Organization was doing in Russia was documenting those dark years of Russian Soviet history, you know, what Russians back then did inside, you know, within Russia and also outside of Russia. The reason why Putin was going after those folks is that because, you know, he wanted to fall, you know, again, like I said, not only press the wrong lesson of the history, you know, thinking that, you know, the alternative to that is probably will be people will not learn a lesson from history, but unfortunately, you know, I'm being asked to him, alternative to not learning the right lesson of the history is learning the wrong lesson of the history and that's the consequences we are seeing right now. People in Russia, unfortunately, they have, you know, there are really wonderful, wonderful Russians that for many years have been trying to push back, raise their voices and, but they have been a subject to not only, you know, again, gross human rights violation inside the country, they've also been subject to, you know, something that we call transnational, you know, human rights violation, transnational repression. Now, Putin is, Putin and his administration, they're trying to export, you know, the human rights violations, gross human rights violations from the region as you can see right now to Ukraine and to other countries. Yes, and it begins there. What is exciting to see also is the resistance. Just one week ago, the key of classic symphony orchestra actually played at the same central square in the Maidan, which was at focal point of the revolution, and they played a concert there showing their strength through music. And this 25 minute concert was, of course, in freezing weather, nationally televised. I was excited to say, show how they're still unafraid, even with the bombs flying. And of course, it's that spirit that they're saying. And that I think was also brought up by Jamala, who also is now in Istanbul, who won a contest for Eurovision, and she was pointing out how history is repeating itself. But I think we can see that there's a new trend where people are actually standing up for the values of human rights, these universal values, and also standing up for what we think should be done. And maybe you could share some of what you saw since you were there, of course, just at the border a week ago and how people are standing up for their human rights. Here are the two components here, how to help those who are inside the country and trying to get out as soon as they can. And they have life to live behind. And unfortunately, Russian forces don't even allow them to leave their neighborhoods. There are several corridors that have been negotiated with Russian forces lately. And when people try to use those corridors to leave, Russians deliberately, Russian forces are targeting them and killing them, unfortunately. We've heard several numbers from Ukrainian government and international organizations. And at this point, I've seen so many creative ways, also people outside of Ukraine are trying to use to help them with what they can financially support them. For instance, I've seen people using Airbnb, trying to book apartments, assuming that eventually those apartments, even if they don't visit Ukraine, but people, the owners of the apartments are able to have access to the funding. That's one thing. Another thing, obviously, there are humanitarian organizations and they are on the ground and they're trying to use, they're trying to reach a humanitarian aid. But again, like I said, for those who are inside Ukraine, for them, the situation is different. Sometimes even international organizations can't find a safe way to reach to Ukrainian people with an aid. And for those who have left the country, obviously we talk about millions of people and they need your emotional support, your support, financial, I mean, look, this is the largest, the massive humanized catastrophe that Europe has faced since the end of Second World War. And obviously, it cut everyone off guard. I mean, even if we did see this coming, we didn't want to believe in this coming. Ukrainian people were not expecting that. Look, if you turn back and think about Ukrainians and Russians and their shared history, and the night that the President Putin was trying to push for years, it completely contradicts against what we are seeing on the region right now. Putin was saying that Ukrainians are our cousins and we need to live together, even to live together. So we have shared history.  And this is hard to comprehend. They do need all kinds of support. Anything that international community can do, first of all, he and the US try to reach out to your own congressional members and electoral officials, try to make sure that we are using all the possible tools at our disposal to be there for them. Secondly, again, they are humanitarian organizations, international organizations, organizations like Amnesty. We have launched campaigns, we're sending out layers to Ukraine ambassador, pardon me, Russian ambassador and Russian Defense Ministry and trying to raise awareness and trying to again make sure that they do see international backlash. There is no alternative, let's say history or reality or facts that Putin wants us to live in. There's international community is right now by understanding that the history, that the work we used to live in, even 21 days ago is long gone. So how are we gonna reestablish our new world is up to us. So we all need to do our best to make sure that the Ukrainian people don't feel alone. And this is not their fight for Ukraine. This is their fight for all of us, for Europe, for democracies, for freedoms, for human rights, for our future. If we just let this, if we let President Putin's slide and other slide, by committing these gross human rights violations, then I can't even imagine, the world we're going to live in, how it's gonna be and how other dictators and authoritarian leaders will try to take their own lesson, wrong lesson and will try to steal our rules-based lifestyle and our future as well. It's true, it's, you could see the decline of democracy people have been talking about for decades since around 2005 on the Freedom Index. But it has been exciting to see some changes. I think corporations with over 300 companies withdrawing to condemned aggression, the calorie curtain of Coke and McDonald's falling on Russia. What we need to see now, since they can't buy a Big Mac in Moscow or book a room at a Hilton, is which one of these firms are more of a PR point or a political one. But I know we only have one minute left. I really also want you to know that here in Hawaii, the lay of aloha for world peace is partnering with many places as well with aloha for Ukraine and people around the world are focusing, as you pointed out, that there's a way that we want the world to be that is rooted in the rule of law with a rules-based order where every nation large and small is free and able to exercise its right of self-determination. And I wanna thank you for all that you're doing with Amnesty International, documenting and sharing with the world the truth of what's happening on the ground. Thank you so much for all you do. And this is, again, the situation on the ground is depressing as it is, shockiness of what we have seen today is very much difficult to process. So thank you so much for helping the US audience and everyone's watching to at least understand what is going on and thank you for your coverage. Thank you so much for watching Think Tech Hawaii. If you like what we do, please like us and click the subscribe button on YouTube and the follow button on Vimeo. You can also follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn and donate to us at thinktechhawaii.com. Mahalo.


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Anissa Isabi-George conceded the Boston mayoral race at 10.15 p.m. on Tuesday. The concession paved the way for Michelle Wu to become the city's first woman and person of color elected as mayor. Isabi-George addressed her appreciation for all the support, and she urged her supporters to find ways to give back to their communities. Before the final result came in, earlier this evening, Isabi-George's supporters are gathered at the Fairmount Copley Plaza in Back Bay. She is really one of the most sincere and reliable people. She's responsive, and she's real. That's pretty special. Even though Isabi-George no longer holds a public position now, but will endeavor to move the city forward. Reporting for BUTV News, I'm Stella Guan. Reporting from the Fairmount Copley Plaza for BUTV News, I'm Stella Guan.


You two team keep it clean. What's going on the same grave in here with another video and in this video Just came out a couple minutes ago that the Packers signed linebacker free agent linebacker Amar Brooks they signed him to a one-year deal. He found a new home in Green Bay After just getting released by the 49ers like a few days ago It seemed like he hasn't even really been on the market that long and he already got a new team That was fast. That was pretty fast So shout out to you Packers fans. I know my boy KDG. I know he's probably Happy about this. I'm sure he is That's a solid linebacker man You this is the time of the NFL season this year more than anywhere You find a lot of guys a lot of them quality guys are getting cut from their teams and Headed somewhere else headed to other places and Amar Brooks is just the next guy on that list Anyway, let me before we get into this. Let me introduce myself for me. I'm engraving vids This is my YouTube channel engraving vids and I'm a Ravens fan I'm a Ravens fan and we could talk about Ravens all day every day Y'all already know that but I'm on this channel. We talk about each and every NFL team that there is So if you're a fan of Ravens, make sure you subscribe if you're a fan of Packers Make sure you subscribe if you just a fan of the NFL period Make sure you subscribe man. Make sure you subscribe. But anyway, I appreciate y'all coming through This is gonna be a quick one cuz it's it's really not much to talk about. Oh and also When you subscribe make sure you turn your notifications on so every time we do one of these live videos You can be one of the first people to know so you'll already know what time it is man And then once these videos go up as regular videos You can be the first one in the comment section too, but the Packers they signed that guy. I know a mob Brooks He was told to I was not he was told to he had visits set up for the Packers and then the next one that he was scheduled to visit with was I believe the Broncos Denver Broncos But I guess the Packers figured you know what? That's our guy. We want him we're gonna bring him on we're gonna put him on and he's gonna be a pack And that's gonna be that so they took care of it and they they they moved pretty fast too, man They moved pretty fast. So that was a good thing Green Bay wasn't messing around with this signing and they got a nice linebacker They're starting will he be the starter? I'm not sure It's he gonna be the starter for for the for the Green Bay Packers I'm sure Packers fans would know that more than anything But we'll see exactly how he does We'll see how that goes. We'll see how he does. What's up savage game appreciate you coming through me Solid pickup though solid pickup nonetheless, whether he's gonna be a starter or not I know the deal is up to is up to five million dollars. It's not guaranteed five million dollars But he can make up to five million dollars Because I know they they threw in those incentives and whatnot. So we'll see how he does in Green Bay I'm gonna be interested to see that interested to see that Of course, you got Clay Matthews there still got Julius Peppers there, too So, yeah, we'll see if he can add to the defense and actually make their defense Make their defense decent because I know defense is something that they struggle with a lot over there in Green Bay What's up Joe Fleco? He said what middle linebacker do they even have that's a good question, man? That's a good question That's a very good question. Oh peppers ain't even there no more See, I don't even know who they line their linebacking court right now. I'm lost What's up Jay Money? but with Their offense is never an issue Packers offense is always the strong point of their team Especially since Aaron Rodgers has been a you were breath off too, but now so the defense the The defense is the weak link the defense has been a weak link for a little while now. So This could be an upgrade. This could be an upgrade. Yeah, Willie Beaman. I see my boy Fleco just reminded me of that play Matthews. I think the other guy. Oh Jake Ryan Jake from State Farm That's the one number 47. That's the one. That's the one. Okay. There we go. There we go. Okay make sense now so Is he gonna take Jake Ryan spot or is he gonna play side by side with him? What's gonna go on with that? So hopefully it's not too much drama over there in Green Bay Nick Perry. Oh Nick Perry, too That's another one. So yeah, they got some decent linebackers there. They got some decent guys So I'm sure the Packers will be fine. Like I said, this isn't this is a nice addition to the team Somebody who they know can play no can make make plays. He's he's not necessarily a big playmaking linebacker But he's a solid tackler. So that's always what you need. Yeah clay. He isn't outside linebacker I know he switched to middle linebacker for a couple years. It didn't quite work out the way they intended it to So I believe he's back at outside linebacker now But yeah, so that's that anyway appreciate y'all. Thank you for coming through on this video Make sure you leave a like on the video if you haven't already And that's that I'm a little tired now, so I might take a nap before I head back to work. Anyway, appreciate y'all. Thank you And I'm out


Live from the Computer History Museum in the heart of Silicon Valley, it's theCUBE, covering OpenStack Silicon Valley 2016. Brought to you by Morantis. Now, here are your hosts, John Furrier and Lisa Martin. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here live in Silicon Valley for the OpenStack Silicon Valley Conference. This is where the OpenStack Foundation and the OpenStack community comes to Silicon Valley to essentially talk amongst themselves and also talk about the progress of OpenStack. I call it the Open Cloud Initiative. This has really been a multi-year effort with a robust community, and of course, Silicon Angles. theCUBE has been there from the beginning. I'm John Furrier, attracting the signal from noise with Lisa Martin, my co-host, our next guest, the Sean Roberts director at technical program management at Walmart Labs. And we're excited to have him on because even though he can't talk about the news of Jet.com being sold to Walmart, he can talk about some of the innovations that Walmart Labs has, and give us some insight into how that relates to the innovations with OpenStack. So Sean, welcome to theCUBE. Great to see you. Thanks, thank you. So up on stage today, every year, the thing that's been really most impressive to me is that OpenStack puts out use cases. People up on stage aren't selling vaporware. They're talking about real things, real changes. And this is really important because cloud growth is so fast. We're seeing Amazon's numbers, Azure's tooling up. The stacks are different among the different bigger cloud vendors, yet the enterprises want to have, you're blocking and tackling cloud for their enterprises. So give us the update. What were you talking about up on stage and what are some things you're working on? Sure. So the two themes in my talk were about agility and meritocracy. So more specifically to what you're focused on, but the agility that OpenStack and OneOps, two open source projects that Walmart uses quite extensively has really allowed and is continuing to allow Walmart to transform into an agile technology company. So that's a really important part of our present and our future. And I'll see with the technology Walmart left, it's no secret in the tech community, Walmart has been very data driven, very technology focused, really powering a lot of the e-commerce on the retail side. But I'll see with all the changes in the marketplace, I'll see the jet.com acquisition really points to the digital aspect of it, which means the consumption of commerce is going to be blurred between retail and online. It's not your shopping cart anymore. It's a lot more. So this agile really kind of connects the dots to this preferred user consumption. How do enterprises get set up for that? Because this is kind of where everyone's thinking about, they call it digital transformation, but basically they need to have some infrastructure. It has to be aligned with subscription based stuff. What's your take on the open stack, under the hood, capabilities? Is it solid? Is it ready? It is, but there's an important distinction to be made. Open stack and other open source projects by and large are research and development projects. Back in traditional enterprise days where we really relied on vendors exclusively to give us products, the research and development was done within the companies, and you wouldn't really see the results of that for sometimes five to six years after they actually started with an idea and developed it in private. It's like a black box almost, really, right? Yeah, and I think IBM coined the phrase walled garden, where they would try to cultivate skunkworks programs and they'd really try to come up with innovative ideas, but they'd do it within a walled garden. It would be closed off. So what we've done with open source in the last 10 years, most significantly, we've really accelerated development of research and development by coming up with an open garden, if you will. So we do research and developments in the open, and that's really what open stack is. It's a giant research and development group of projects that we work on collaboratively with friendly organizations. Sometimes we're competing on a lot of other things, but we come together to collaborate and then from that, we can either create products based on that research and development to sell or to use internally. So you guys at Walmart Labs are doing things in the open with open stack. Can you share some of the projects you're doing and some of the recent news you guys have done around some of these projects? Sure. So there's three projects that would probably be the most important to highlight. There's other traditional projects we've been involved in, but the most notable three are the Creighton Project, which is an inventory management system that aims to become as similar to a CMDB for open stack. That project just got started a couple months ago. There's another project that was started a little bit earlier, but it's still growing and developing. It's called Watcher, and it's a resource optimization project. And then there's the OneOps project that we put into GitHub into the open source community in December. But now we're exploring the option of actually moving that project into the open stack foundation as an open stack project. So definitely see some considerable maturation of what Walmart is doing. I think one of the things that is interesting to me is a lot of people know Walmart as a retailer. We're here talking to you today about Walmart as a technology company. And I think one of the neat things about that that's transcendent is a lot of companies today have to be technology companies to be competitive. We look at e-commerce 3.0, we as consumers want any product, any time, anywhere, how many of us bought things online over the weekend and it's at our doorstep yesterday. Talk to us about what Walmart is doing to tackle some of the challenges of e-commerce 3.0 and how that's being fueled or facilitated by open stack. Sure. Well, you guys may have heard of Walmart Pay, which is very similar to the way that Starbucks allows consumers to purchase items. And it works pretty well. I've been actually using it quite a bit myself. And the other, probably the most notable other thing that really is being fueled by our adoption of agile technologies like one option open stack is the grocery home shopping. So that's really changed the relationship between Walmart and its customers. And arguably, back in the 90s, there was the web band. That was an awesome idea, but it was way too early. I really think nowadays, this is the really the maturation of the idea, the right place, right time. We really see that the commercial business and the ability for our customers to actually drive up and have their groceries waiting for them when they drive up and have them put in the back of their car and have them drive away. I mean, you think about the web band and create an example. Let's take, let's double down on that, because at the time, there was some process operationalizing of what that means. The technology costs were extremely high. There was no mobile, right? So now you have everyone's connected. You have sensors for IoT potentially there. All supply chain work that's done on the brick and mortar side is done. So a lot of things are kind of lined up beautifully for that. So as enterprises look at that and they say, okay, all those promises and bubble type trends that happened from dot com days, even in web 2.0 and even in the social now, we do see Uber and stuff out there. It's okay, they say, okay, I think it's now safe to put my toe in the water. Why is agile important for them? And you share your perspective on that because a lot of folks, they see that they should jump in and build. They just don't know how, right? So there's a lot of, kind of maybe over the top of saying too much, they need the use case, they need the playbook, but they don't know how. The number one question we get is, I got to go there, it's a mandate. How do I become agile? How do I do it? And unfortunately, isn't just one thing. But if I was to call out a group of things that you can put together, it's continuous integration, continuous delivery. So those terms CICD are thrown out, thrown around quite a bit. But those things really mean is it allows, well, maybe just use OpenStack as an example. It's what the strength of OpenStack's infrastructure and its ability to manage the software pipeline, the continuous integration has really been the strength of how OpenStack has evolved and really been successful. Without that ability to be agile, to be able to deliver thousands of patches a day, OpenStack wouldn't be as a group of projects where it is today. So for companies to adopt that similar group of technologies, which unlike OpenStack, there is no one way of building a CICD, that software pipeline, that delivery of software packages into production. But we're getting a lot closer. So for any company like Walmart, we need to invest in the people to develop and curate that infrastructure to support that CICD so that we can be successful so we can hire and retain the developers that will not only come to work for us, but they'll want to stay. Along that front, I'm glad that you brought that up. That was actually going to be my next question, which is about the cultural change, the people, the processes that are needed to facilitate such a transformation. Looking at Walmart, Labs is a great use case, as John was saying, to learn from for other enterprises who are struggling or maybe thinking, I need to move to cloud, when, where, with whom. Talk to us about some of the cultural change that needed to be implemented or is probably in implementation. In addition to the technology, to help Walmart Labs be successful here and really become a retailer that is clearly competitive with Amazon. Sure. So it started with a couple acquisitions, I believe it was 2011, 2012. And the idea of Walmart Labs was born out in the valley, locally here. So from that, it allowed Walmart as a company to reinvent, reinnovate some ideas that would already have been around and to move forward faster. That concept has grown and is, I'd say that a lot of what would be considered to be traditional Walmart has joined in on what Walmart Labs represents, which is really the dot-com side of Walmart. So that's born out over the last few years and it's gone through an amazing, one of the slides I didn't show, but it shows the rapid increase of the number of application deployments, which is really the, I think, the strength of an agile company. If you can push changes into production rapidly, we're doing 40,000 a month now. It's an amazing number. So it allows us to make a small change, test it in-flight, the code itself, and then to actually push in in production. So we can do that many times a day. Kind of looking at the customer experience perspective for a second, one of the things that Jonathan Bryce talked about in his keynote this morning was the impact that OpenStack is having on the net promoter score of its users. Walmart being a very well-known big global retailer with affiliates in a lot of global locations. Can you share with us the impact to the net promoter score or the impact that you're seeing to the customer experience as a result of the Walmart Labs and what it's facilitating for e-commerce? Yes, so it allows us not only to fix problems. If there's a failure, it allows us to recover quickly from that failure and push the chain, test it, verify that it's not going to make things worse, it's actually going to fix the failure and push it into production very quickly. But it also allows us to be very agile with features that the many different parts of Walmart and Walmart Labs are developing on a day in and day out basis. So it allows us to really be very agile with our features that we make available to our customers, which provides a much better experience to them. One of the things I've been admiring about Walmart Labs, I've been following since, I think it was Cosmix was the acquisition that came in and the value you mentioned, has been that Walmart Labs has been always big data. I mean, it's always been using technology and integrating it in as fast as possible. Now with the cloud, a new power source is there, you have the supply chain locked and loaded solid there, huge scale on the Walmart side. What are some of the new things that you guys see with cloud? Can you share some examples where you go back to the ranch or so to speak, you're in the valley and say, okay, here's the stuff we're doing with OpenStack, here's how we at Walmart can create a new power source to blend that new bridge to stay on the cutting edge for Walmart. What are some of the things that you talk about when you go back to the ranch that you could share with the folks here that they could take away as a learning point? Sure, so probably the thing that I haven't spoken about very much is our ability to burst a cloud. So by all means it's not complete, it's not finished, but in the OneOps project that we have an open source in our implementation, we do have the capability of utilizing public cloud for extra capacity. So really critical for not only a large retailer, but for any enterprise that has peak capacity times of their business, their ability to not have to run that infrastructure all year round and be able to only rent it when they need to, rent to peak, so to speak. So classic e-commerce spikes, we talk about Black Friday, all these things. Yes, yes. When I was at Yahoo, we did much of the same thing, but it was usually around some social event that would happen, somebody passes away or the Olympics or something like that, so. Scale up instantly, no big provisioning. Yes, that's the ideal scenario. It's not quite that automated at this point, but we're working towards it, and that's part of the reason that we want to push OneOps into open stack, or we want to explore pushing OneOps into open stack. The management piece's visibility into the operations, the Nirvana is okay flash mobbing the compute or resource. Making it completely automatic where it dials up and dials down capacity. And treating our availability zones, our data centers, just like any other resource, like the public availability zones of our partners. It's hard to back into that, I can imagine, it must be very difficult to try to predict and understand that without understanding the management piece. So it sounds like your OneOps has been a key to that, is that, am I reading that right? It is, it is, it's a very important, well as I said before, the ability to continue to deliver changes into production is a really important way for the company to be nimble with failures but also delivering new features. So it's really allowed the company to move a lot faster and to think on its feet. Well thanks for coming on theCUBE, I really appreciate you taking the time from the keynote. I got to ask you a final question then at least Lisa might have one herself. OpenStack has always been kind of viewed as the OS of the cloud and that was kind of the early day kind of view of it. But as the swim lanes are being developed and as it's hardening out with clear market opportunities within the foundation, the challenge has always been how to get the builds from the trunk up and running. Can you give us an update? What's happening this year for the folks watching? What's the state of OpenStack today in your mind? How would you share the impact of this event here in Silicon Valley? So I would say the state of OpenStack is pretty healthy. I had a couple of slides up earlier that showed the month over month contributions and the number of projects. It's pretty consistent, it's a little bit of a heartbeat but it's consistently trending up. And that's really those consistent contributions is such an important indicator of the health of OpenStack, the health of the community and it didn't seem to be slowing down. And again, calling out to the very important infrastructure team that supports the CI that is the lifeblood of OpenStack. Those guys and girls make it happen every single day and it's what makes OpenStack strong. From your perspective as a technologist, the future of retail, obviously we see what Amazon's doing. You guys have Walmart, you have Jet.com, that one coming together with that. As a technologist, enable in the future, are we going to be living in a totally digitally transformed world soon? What year can you peg it? Predict the future. What's the future of retail? As soon as I have a flying car, I think we're there waiting for it. I think we're just going to see more features, more expectation on that. We all have very high expectations. Now we expect our phone to do pretty much everything. I always expected it to do, but my poor Nokia back in the day could only make phone calls. So our expectations are so high nowadays and I think we're getting close to the point where we can really be able to meet those expectations as companies like Walmart strive to do. Last question for you is one of the things that Jonathan Bryce talked about in the keynote was, number one, business driver is standardization. Clearly a tremendous amount of success that Walmart Labs has achieved, leveraging OpenStack. If you could just sum it into a couple of sentences, what would your advice be for enterprises looking at Walmart Labs as a model for how to leverage OpenCloud? That's a good question. So I'd say it's really about focusing on your people. Higher and retaining the best quality people is so critical. Without it, you can't survive, you can't grow as a company, at least not consistently. So it's the most important thing that I always focus on as a leader to make sure that my team and the teams around me were always focused on hiring and retaining the best quality so that we can move forward and have the best ideas and be the company that I think we can all be. Couldn't agree more. All right, final bumper sticker. What are you most excited about right now in your role here in the OpenStack Foundation and the industry? What are you most excited about? Well, not to keep tooting my own horn, but I'm really excited about the prospect of moving one ops into OpenStack. I think it's something that we've been missing for a long time. It'll allow us to complete our mission of being able to easily deploy and scale, which we've been successful at Walmart doing. So I'm really excited about the opportunity to explore that with the rest of the OpenStack community and to fulfill our dream. All right, Sean Roberts here from Walmart Labs. It's theCUBE live in Silicon Valley. I'm John Furrier, Lisa Martin. We'll be right back with more. For more, go to siliconangle.com, go to siliconangle.tv and follow us on the Twitter handle at The Cube. We'll be right back with more, you're watching The Cube.


Vernon Smith received the 2002 Nobel Memorial Prize in economic sciences for his pioneering work in experimental economics. Over the past four or five years, starting under Donald Trump, the federal government has just pumped tons of money into circulation. Joe Biden recently proposed a $6.8 trillion budget. You know, we're experiencing inflation. What is the way out of that kind of situation? I think the first way out is for the central bank not to accommodate spend-thrifts in government. Because it's very hard to keep Democrats wanting to make the world better by spending other people's money. You know, they're really committed to that.  You're not going to be saved necessarily by them.


Hey everyone, welcome to this cubes special program series, Women of the Cloud brought to you by AWS and your host for the series, Lisa Martin. Very pleased to be joined by Patty Jordan, the VP of enabling processes and technology at Optimus, my next guest. Patty, welcome to the program. Hi Lisa, thank you for having me. Tell me a little bit about yourself, a little bit about your role so the audience gets that understanding of exactly who you are. Sure thing, my name is Patty Jordan, as we mentioned, I am originally from Cameroon, Central Africa, but I was raised in the DC area. I'm what you call a bank brat. My father worked for an international organization, the World Bank, lived in, like I said, grew up in DC, moved to Austin, Texas about seven years ago, been with Optim for the last nine years of my working career and I've had multiple roles, but currently my role is with the enabling technologies and processes, which means that I manage teams that support the platform of a lot of analytics products in Optim. Got it, all right, bank brat, that's a new one to me, I hadn't heard that, I love that, you're a bank brat. And proud of it, I can tell. Talk to me a little bit about the career path that you have navigated and what are some of your sort of tactical and also strategic recommendations for the audiences looking to grow their career in tech? So the interesting thing is I did not start in tech. My background is as an economist, I have a Bachelor's of Economics from the College of Montgomery. I also have a financial master's in public policy from American University. However, I did take some IT classes and as a kid, I'm probably dating myself a little bit but I programmed in DOS. So I was always excited by it and I had internships as a programmer that helped me pay for my master's degree and when I graduated, I just felt like I was having fun and I was getting paid very well and I was able to pay off my graduate schools. So I just stayed with tech. Love that, but it sounds like you had that interest from when you were quite young and as a lot of us end up in tech, we didn't start there originally. There's a lot of zigzaggy paths to get there. Sounds like you had that as well. What are some of your recommendations for people, either those that are in tech now or aren't who want to get into it and really expand and climb that ladder? So definitely, so one of the things to understand is tech could be many different things. One of the things could be programming, which I started doing and now dislike intensely. And then another thing could be like being in a business analyst in tech, getting the business requirements versus product management or even management. And what I would encourage people to do is really focus on what you feel happy doing, which for me is problem solving and collaborating and getting the right people together to solve very complex problems. And if you focus on that, then you'll find the role for you even in tech. I love that, problem solving is such an important skill to be able to have and to cultivate regardless of the industry that you're in. But I'd love to know a little bit more about some of the successes that you've had helping organizations to actually navigate their cloud journeys, their migration to cloud. As we've seen the last couple of years, a massive acceleration to the cloud that was really born out of the pandemic. Talk to me about some of the successes that you've been able to achieve. So the first, I guess most obvious thing is understanding the technology. What do you have at your disposal? What do you need for your team to succeed in the cloud or even on-prem? But what I've learned most in the last four to five years with the projects that I work on, whether it was migrating from a host data center to one that we owned ourselves or migrating from that data center to AWS recently was you really need to get the business organization engaged. And that's not just getting the sponsorship and getting them this to write that check, but really helping them understand how this journey to the cloud is a combined journey between both organizations, right? And they will be able to be more successful as well with us going to the cloud with improved processing, with revenue protection because there's more tools available with revenue expansion because now we can now expand faster, address client needs faster. So there's various different aspects of going to cloud that are more than just we're using the coolest technology.  Has there, and one of the challenges with organizations and from a cloud migration standpoint that we often talk about is it's a cultural migration as well, which is really challenging to do for any type of organization regardless of industry. Do you have a favorite example where as the problem solver you came in and really helped the organization, the business side understand, be able to transform their cultural direction, understand why cloud migration can be such a facilitator of the business from a top line and a bottom line perspective. So from a bottom line perspective, I think the hardest thing for them to understand or what does not compute for them is you can't give them a set, this is what you're gonna cost in the cloud, right? Because the benefit of being in the cloud is being able to scale, shrink, et cetera. So that's one hurdle that we're still fighting to be on your path and candid, but from a top line perspective, what's been great is we've been able to ramp up more clients with the same input, right? So we haven't had to go out and procure more servers, more storage, hire more staff because we're in the cloud and we've actually been able to scale our teams as well because we incorporated the DevOps functions and we do not need a team to manage a data center anymore. So that they absolutely understood saving is ratified, but really just how do we get to market faster? How do we get to revenue faster and how do we get more revenue with the same pool of resources is something that they've really resonated with. Well, you're starting to speak their language. So to your point that resonates well, but there's so much productivity improvements, efficiencies to be gained by leveraging cloud computing that really hit the bottom line of an organization that businesses, if you put it in the right way and it sounds like as the problem solver you have, they understand the immense value and competitive advantage that cloud can bring to their organization and become sort of a, ah, the blinders are off, I get it. Exactly, you're just not trying to play with the latest toys. You're actually solving a business problem even before it happens. And that's the key. Solving business problems before they happen, being able to predict and forecast is huge for businesses, especially as we've seen the last couple of years, everybody racing to digital to pivot to survive now to be competitive. But if they don't do that and embrace that emerging technology suite, there's a competitor that's right back here that if they're more culturally willing and able to be more agile, they're gonna take the place of a competitive organization. So yeah, so it absolutely is a huge differentiator for organizations and it sounds like you've had some great successes there in helping organizations really navigate the challenges, the cultural challenges, but the benefits of cloud computing. I do wanna talk to you a little bit about in your expertise, diversity is something that is talked about in every industry. We talk about it in tech all the time, but there's still challenges there. What are your thoughts on diversity? What are you seeing and what are some of those challenges that are still sitting on the table? So I guess the first thing I would say is is multiple facets to diversity, right? The first one we always lean to is gender and race, but there's also diversity of thought. And being in the healthcare industry is very important for us to have a diversity of thought and experiences so that we can target a lot of these health equity issues that are ongoing. So that's one thing that we've been trying to do is making sure that I don't just have people that think like me on the team. And typically that also means not having people that look like me. So making sure that we have the right pipelines to hire for partnering with some of our vendors. AWS, for example, is a good one where they had avenues and they had nonprofits that they worked with and they connected us with. Some of our staff augmentation people also did the same thing, really just expanding the scope of where we're looking for talent. And that helps also bring that diversity of thought and the diversity of gender race into the fold. It is, and there's also, there's so much data. If we follow the data, and of course in tech, we're all about data, every company these days, regardless of industry, needs to be a data company. If we follow the data, we can see that organizations with, for example, females within the C-suite are far more profitable than those organizations that don't have that, even that element of diversity. So the data is demonstrating this tremendous business value, tremendous competitive advantage, faster time to market, more products and services that can be delivered if there is thought diversity among the entire organization, not just the C-suite. Exactly. And since we have an impact on what is being delivered as an engineering organization, we also need that in engineering, right? One of the things that's very keen right now is machine language and AI. If we don't have the right models, for example, then we either introduce bias or perpetuate bias. So we definitely need people on our teams as well that understand how these technologies work, how we can leverage them on our data sets so that we could run counter to this bias. And countering that bias is incredibly important, machine learning, AI. So driven by data, the volumes of data, but the data needs to be as clean and non-biased as possible. And that's a big challenge for organizations to undertake. Is there advice that you have for those folks watching who might be, I don't see me in this organization, I don't feel represented. How can I change that? Well, one would be to speak up, right? Even if you don't see you, apply for the job, right? And one of the things that we're trying to address even in the DEI space is making sure that our job descriptions are not introducing any biases so that people will eliminate themselves immediately, right? But really just, if you have this skill set and you feel like you can ramp up to the talent, then just apply for the job, talk to somebody. You do have a network, whether you realize it or not, so leverage that network. But really, like there's this expression that my kid taught me saying, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, right? So if you don't try, you're not gonna make it by default. If you do try, there's a chance you make it, right? At the very least, you build a connection with someone who could potentially help you down the line. That is one of my absolute favorite sayings. You miss 100% of the shots that you don't take. So encouraging people to raise their hand. There are stats, data, speaking of data, we've been talking about that, to demonstrate that women are far less likely to apply for jobs like on LinkedIn, for example, unless they need 100% of the job requirements, which we all know are quite stringent and not necessary in a lot of cases. So I love your advice of just try. Raise your hand, ask the question. All that can see us know. And at the end of the day, what is that? It's a word, but can also be directional and really guiding for people on their journey to wherever that, if it's engineering, cloud engineering, DevOps, whatever that happens to be. Raise your hand, ask the question. And to your point, you have a network. It is there, open that up. There's so much potential for people that just raised, I think that's to raise their hand and ask the question. And the corollary to that is I would also encourage people who are in leadership roles to be strong allies, right? Like we need to be aware of what biases we might be introducing or candidates that we might be leaving on the table because we're being too stringent because we're not expanding our search, right? So definitely that's something that I've started doing about five, six years ago, shortly after I moved to Austin, which I kind of beat myself up about not having done before, is really contributing to that community, helping out being a mentor, being a coach, being a guide. Sometimes it's just reviewing somebody's resume. Other times it's talking to them about a role that I have and helping them map their current state to that role, but really just being an ally to everyone and anyone who wants to come into this space. I love that. And I have a feeling, Patty, that you're a great mentor and ally for those in your organization, across organizations and those out there that may not know yet. Patty can be an ally for me. I'd love to get your take in our final minutes on a couple of things. What's next in cloud from your perspective, the things that you've seen, what you've been able to achieve and how do you see your role evolving in the industry at Austin? So what's next in cloud? And we've talked about that a lot is data. How do we manage all this data? How do we catalog this data? How do we reuse this data? How do we ship this data? We have data in various different environments. We're a multi-cloud company. So how do we make sure that we don't have the same data everywhere? Or even if we do, how do we reconcile that? So data, data, data, right? And from data, get to information that we can monetize it and we can share it. So that's for me is really next step. I mean, we know the applications that we can build. We know the analytics that we can build. But if we don't have the right data, we're limiting ourselves. So that's definitely one aspect that I know that we wanna drive. And as far as my role, I was fortunate enough to be provided with the leadership of development of a platform for analytics, which yes, involves data. So I'm very excited about this, right? Cause that's next level for me. I've been typically in roles that protect revenue in a DevOps and operations role. And now I'm in a revenue generating role. And it has a shift in mindset, but I really appreciate it. And I'm really taking everything I've learned up to now as a DevOps team, I knew when the bad things came. So now I'm trying to prevent my team from pushing bad things down the pipe, right? So I'm just really excited about what's to come because there's so many opportunities for improving the products that we built. And I'm so excited to be a part of this platform. There are the horizon of opportunities is really endless, which is exciting. And to your point about data, like I mentioned for every company, whether it's your grocery store, a retailer, the postal service has to become a data driven company. Cause as consumers, we expect that. We bring that into our business lives and we expect to be able to transact in business as easily as we do on the consumer side. And that all requires organizations to not just have access to data, but to be able to build the right data infrastructure, to glean insights, to act on that, to feed the AI and ML models so that products services can get better, more personalized and meet the demands of the ever demanding consumer, which I know I'm one of them. I want to ask you one more final question. And that is, what do you think some of the biggest challenges have been with respect to tech innovation and the workforce over the past five years? What are some of those things that you've seen that you think we're on the right track moving forward to eliminate some of these? That is a good question. I think one of the biggest challenges for me has been not to remain in the status quo, right? Like not to do something because it's what we've been doing, but being in the cloud allows us with so many opportunities where we can fail fast, that let's give it a shot, let's do a quick sprint, let's figure out whether it is a possibility or not, eliminate it if it's not and then keep moving, right? Like we don't have the same development methodology before that we had to do three months, five months, six months. You can iterate in two week chunks, get it done, confirm your statement or negate it, but at the very least have an answer, right? So that for me is the biggest challenge. We're aware of the thinking we're just not doing. So I'd be very excited when we pivot from that and really start innovating because we have the time. Innovating because we have the time, as I mentioned, with the demand of consumers, whether it's consumer and on the personal side, business side, those demands are there, but the exciting thing is to your point, the innovations are there, the capabilities are there, the data is there. We have a lot of what we need to be able to take advantage of that. So it's going to be exciting to see what happens over the next few years. Patty, it's been such a pleasure having you on theCUBE today. Thank you so much for joining. You are clearly a leader in terms of women in the cloud. We appreciate what you're doing, your insights, your recommendations, and your insights as to what you see in the future. You've been a great guest. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you for having me Lisa. My pleasure for Patty Jordan. I'm Lisa Martin. You're watching theCUBE's coverage of women of the cloud brought to you by AWS, a special program series. We thank you so much for watching. Take care.


We believe charter cities really address fundamental challenges that are facing humanity in the 21st century. My name is Mark Lutter. I'm the Founder and Executive Director of the Charter Seize Institute and I am an Emergent Ventures grantee. The EV project is a nonprofit I founded, the Charter Seize Institute. So I founded it about two years ago. Charter City is a new city with a special jurisdiction that allows it to adopt a more competitive business environment. And so if we look at the most successful cities in the post-war era, Singapore, Shenzhen, Hong Kong and Dubai, all of these had an important component of governance which allowed them to become more competitive and become the cities they are today. And generally, we believe this model is replicable throughout the world, particularly in Africa and Asia. What we do is provide thought leadership behind the idea of what charter cities are. How can you create these legal systems that attract investment, that create jobs, that generate economic growth? And then in addition to that, we use the networks that we're building to both help introduce projects to investors, to potential consultants, as well as provide technical assistance on some of the projects to help create these legal systems who currently we're working in both Zambia and Nigeria. In Zambia, we're working with a new city development called Mkhwashi. It was being built for about 100,000 residents. The first residents move in next year. And so we're working with them and the Zambian government to help make it easier to start a business, make it easier to pay taxes, make it easier to hire people. These are really core elements to commerce that unfortunately in emerging markets are often too difficult, which really shut out a large portion of the population from accessing global markets and being able to increase their productivity and increase their standards of living. In five years, we want to be global. We want to be working with dozens of new city developments around the world. We want to be creating new governance systems from scratch. We want to have access to 20, 30 heads of state. We want to be a major player in international development in migration in new cities in the refugee space. We believe charter cities really address fundamental challenges that are facing humanity in the 21st century. Our ultimate goal is to lift tens of millions of people out of poverty. We really need to work really hard and execute effectively. And in five years, I think we'll start seeing some good results.