Thank you for joining us for the next lecture in the Youth Investment Readiness Program. We're thrilled today that we have Javier Muñoz Blanco with us. He's going to be talking to us today about stakeholder management and partners, which I know is going to be a key part to all of you realizing your nonprofit or social business goals. So without further ado, over to Javier. Thank you very much, Lauren. Hello to everyone and I must say that I'm very glad to be here and very honored to participate in this program and to be able to share with you some of the insights that come with this program and with the work that I do and with the learnings that I've been picking up from different experiences. So as Lauren said, my name is Javier Muñoz Blanco and I'm a Sustainability Consultant, a demuser, and I'm doing right now two consultancies, one for FAO on SDGs, as a geo-implementation in the Caribbean, and another one with UNDP with on-environmental governance. So in that sense, those two consultancies that I'm currently doing basically mix the importance of SDGs with the importance of governance. And governance has to be done considering stakeholders and partners. So I've been following the program, of course, the investment readiness program and I've seen that you've already been doing very quite technical work when it comes to investment preposition, pitch training, SDG impact assessment, marketing, revenue models, and so on. And I'm sure you're really full of models that illustrate and guide you through many steps of the way of starting an initiative. That idea can be an unprofit, a for-profit, the social for-profits, social impact investments or environmental impact investment both and so on. So the approach that I wanted to bring here, it comes from this kind of subheading that comes with the investment readiness program of accelerating youth-led solutions for the SDGs and boosting impact investment through a hands-on collaborative approach. So this part of SDGs and collaborative is the one that I want to bring it in this presentation and this presentation is gonna be composed of this 11 stages. First, why are we doing this? Why are we even talking about this? What is the relationship with the 2030 agenda? And then I'm gonna use a model that I'm gonna present later on that has five forces. This model have to say this is gonna be just a guide. I'm not claiming that this is the perfect explanation of the model. There have been many scholars who have already, including the author himself, they have already given interpretations from the very business and MBA point of view to this model with its good and its bads and what one is useful and when it's not. But I think it's a good framework for us to start thinking of our stakeholders and our possible partners. Then I'm gonna illustrate one bad example, something that we could be doing but maybe that shouldn't be necessarily desirable. And then a conclusion and just mentioning what the practical exercise will be. So the first question is, why are we addressing this issue at all? And this comes from, we many times talk about stakeholders. For example, when you were in the UN itself, they usually talk of stakeholders as government, the first one, civil society, private sector and so on. But we, in this case, we are not such big players. So we don't usually have a stakeholder or as a direct stakeholder, someone we have meetings with, we don't have the government. We don't know if we have the government, it would be a municipality, it wouldn't be, we are not that big and it's fine because we have to work on the SDGs on different levels and this smaller level is as necessary as the big one. But like when you are in this situation, you have your idea, you want to put it through, you find out the stakeholder management is a complex issue. There are so many things. I mean, apart from the legal framework and for the other people who are already doing what you're doing and the possible people who might be doing something similar, even your partners, even in terms of stakeholders, your social base, managing all that is difficult and requires different skills that some of them are soft skills that come not from learning a lot in a university but rather trying to be more empathetic, trying to be more reading, having more self-critical and having critical analysis and so on. The second issue of why we are addressing this because in many projects and many initiatives, stakeholder management is not usually taken as a big priority. And of course, one could understand that because we are talking of finance issues. We have to find money to even start. We need resources. We need people to support us. But at the same time, we might have the best idea. We might have the best players. If we don't know who to play with, who to deal with, how to deal with them, it's gonna be difficult anyway. And the third one, I think that might be just to bring in misconception that might come from the NZGs that many times we talk on the SDGs of course implementing the SDGs will benefit everyone one way or another. But when we are talking of a smaller level, we have something that is competition and that's something that we still cannot avoid. I mean, of course we should be promoting collaboration but when we are starting, not everyone's gonna work in our benefit. Not everyone's gonna support us directly or not everyone's gonna see an incentive to support us directly. So sometimes when situations, these three wins means you, your idea and the people who might benefit from that and the people who might be competing with you, those situations are not always possible. Sometimes when people will have a worse situation, it might be powerful people who shouldn't have a, very powerful people who shouldn't have a very high position in the first place. So that situation of everyone winning might not be possible and we have to be critical on how to deal with that. So why is this topic of stakeholder partners, stakeholder and partner management? Important and it has some relation with the 2030 agenda. Well, the first thing and the most evident one there's already one SDG, the SDG 17 that actually refers to it. It refers to it and to many other things I have to point out. SDG 17 talking just about partnerships, it's a bit imprecise, it had to be named in a way but SDG 17 also encompasses issues that have to do with international trade, that have to do with data, that have to do with policy coherence. But nevertheless, there's one SDG that explicitly recognize that we have to work with other people to improve things. The main link to the 2030 agenda that comes with stakeholders and partners management comes from the 2030 agenda principles of universality, integration and leaving no one behind. And this is where like, I'm gonna be bringing this three principles up during the presentation because I think it's very important that we keep them in mind to basically to everywhere, everything that we do with our work include in our initiative. The principle for universality states that every country or everyone is responsible in a way to implement the 2030 agenda and that includes our idea, our initiative, our and the people that we involve with it. The second principle is the principle of integration that we have to be resource efficient when doing that and trying to break the silos and trying to break the barriers that hinder collaboration. So in that sense, not only we have to be efficient with our idea, we have to be efficient with the possible people we can work with. Sometimes just be integrating with someone else might bring us to markets or to an audience or to a possible target market in a way that like, not almost no money in the world could bring. Just for example, being friends with someone can open the doors for many things. And being friends, I don't mean in the corruption way, just being befriending people brings people together as well. And the third one, and this is a very important one that most people in the UN basically highlight that this is the most important 2030 agenda principle that is leaving no one behind. And with our idea, we should be conscious and aware what are the impacts of our idea? We want to improve the situation of a particular topic with our idea, with our initiative. But while doing so, we might come across situations that might reduce the livelihood of someone that might impact someone negatively. And we should be aware of who those people are. And if we're being inclusive when we are hiring, when we are buying from suppliers and so on. And the third link with the 2030 agenda, something that is called SDG or 2030 agenda localization. And that stands for implementing the 2030 agenda at the subnational level. What happens in countries within themselves are very, quite an equal. Usually capital cities are the richest places. Many times might lack infrastructures, then might lack access to, for example, jobs or livelihoods. So in that sense, the type of how we implement the 2030 agenda is different from rich areas or high income areas in a country to the ones that have it worse off. So with our idea, we should be able to use our idea to solve problems, targeted and tailor made to different situations at the subnational level. Or in our markets, we might have to discriminate, what I mean discriminates is differentiates our different targets that might be impacted by idea. So coming for the five forces analysis, and this is a model, the Michael Porter described and came up with in 1979. This model has been discussed for a long time in academia, in business or in MBA schools and so on. And I think although he has some detractors, he has had criticisms, it doesn't always apply. I think it's a simple enough analysis for us to work. Especially when we have, when we are in this investment program in which we have to learn many things in a very short time. It's easier to have simpler models that might be a bit imprecise than having something very comprehensive that we might not understand. So in that sense, what I'm gonna do with this model is transform it into take its components and analyze them from an SDG perspective with a critical perspective for you to consider once you are talking with different of these forces. I have to say that not everyone, like these forces don't include everyone that is should be your stakeholder or your partner. There are many people from civil society, from governments, government institutions and so on that are not included here. But I think this one could help you start with the key ones that you should consider from a business or from a financial sustainability perspective through the process of having a product or an initiative or a project that works. So the first force and it's what we talk, what we mentioned as competitive rivalry. And basically the way we describe it is with the first point. So first know where you're getting yourself into. You might have a very good idea and that idea might already be, might have been implemented in the place that you want to implement it as well. It might have many barriers to start up that you might not know, sorry. You might find also people who might not want your ideas to succeed. So you have to scan or map your situation to see exactly who are your competitors, how do they behave with each other and how is this gonna work. And for example, a competitive rivalry, the same rival is the one that Michael Porter took. And this is because he works in exclusively business, like profit making business. When it comes to profit making, of course we have to make profit because we have to be efficient. But that shouldn't be the only orientation of our idea. So this term of rival might sound a bit aggressive, especially when we want to improve things. So maybe we shouldn't have rivals. If we are an NGO, we want to enter like the scope or the field where another and similar NGOs work, they might not be our rivals. They might indeed be actually our actors with whom to cooperate. But still, if we have someone who will be our rivals or our competitors, for what are, for which reasons are they our competitors? And this comes also with, who are you kicking out once you enter a market? Sometimes we might mean very well and let's say that we have the possibility of starting an NGO that might take all the possible funding from the government. And we have the possibility of starting that idea in two different regions. In one region there's already one NGO that has already, it's getting on very, it's government funding and it's doing quite well. And in the other one, there's no one. So you could, in that sense, you could consider, for example, the impacts of entering the one that has already someone who's doing a good job. And maybe it would be better to join the region that is a bit more idle when it comes to that. So maybe you enter the one and you collaborate in two different regions with another organization. Because sometimes to improve something, if you kick someone, if you kick out someone who's doing a ready, right, it might be, we might be doing more bad than good, but that's very case specific and there's no opportunity to decide. But at the same time, when we were talking about and we enter a market or a field, who are your allies? Who would you be working with? Who are your not rivals? And who would be your mentors? Sometimes there are many small NGOs that take on work very specific than some bigger NGOs are already doing. And sometimes we are learning through a small collaboration and those NGOs or people from those NGOs become our, indeed, our mentors. And we also have to value them and consider that we might need someone to guide us through the start of our idea. And this comes from porters and the way competition works. In general, many times big companies compete through taxes. So they make almost the same profits that they managed to have this fiscal structure. So they don't pay taxes in the country that they're producing the revenue. And therefore they can have higher revenues and they can lower their prices. So they'd make a competition and make the whole rivalry much more difficult. Of course that wouldn't apply to a small idea that you might be starting right now and that doesn't mean small in a bad way. I mean, things have to start with a small thing. It's where we have to consider where we pay taxes. And in that sense, I think we have to be responsible of how it works. And if we have to start in an informal way, because sometimes there are no other options, we should start considering when are we starting to become more formal so we contribute to the fiscal system of our country. The second stakeholder, the second partner in that sense is a vertical integration or not a vertical line is suppliers. The people from whom you buy. And depending on your idea, you might have very simple suppliers. I mean, if you have an NGO that is like basically a knowledge-based NGO, your suppliers might be just the people that transportation, office utilities and so on. But if you have a product or if you're selling something that is physical, you might encounter something that is a bit more problematic. That is like when you're buying stuff to produce your nice product to improve things, where are you getting your raw material from? What is the carbon footprint? And when we want to say, for example, 20%, how much does our carbon footprint increase? And carbon footprint is just one of the different variables of the ecological footprint, which is a bigger concept that has to do with water consumption, basically how much land we take to produce our products. And in that sense, when we are asking ourselves this question, it's like how far can we go regarding traceability of our source materials? Can we actually say that this is responsible if we are producing something that has to do something with electronics? Can we say that like our electronic products can we trace it back to a responsible sourcing? Can we check some reporting from the suppliers? Do we trust them or do we just take the cheapest price? And I have to say here, that sometimes we have no option, but at least we should be able to acknowledge that we cannot trace things and also tell our impossible buyer base that that's as far as we can go with traceability. And another part that comes with buying from other people is how do we treat them? It's not just if we get good prices, like are we being abusive towards them? Are we paying unfair prices? Do we have unfair trading practices with them? And this is something that we have to consider and it's been already very well specified in the SEG number 12 on responsible consumption and production. Next one is the people who buy from us. So let's say that we have a very good product. It's very reliable. It's very good quality. And we meant this product to reduce inequalities, for example. But in the end, after making such a good product, we realized that this product is quite expensive or relatively expensive for the social base that we wanted to have. And in the end, we ended up selling it to people who is not our initial targets. We wanted to make accessible food and then we'd make very responsible food for people in urban areas who have a lot of money. And that's something that we can still, and our idea can still be valid. We just have to be to make sure that that's what we meant in the first place. And this people Fs is like, it refers to social base which is friends and fools, family friends and fools. Who is supporting you in the very start of your idea? Apart from that, have you checked that they will be willing and they think your product is responsible enough to be your social base despite a possible price, a possible uncomfortable price? And the other thing is like sometimes we make products and we declare that when we make a product, we're gonna use the revenues or part of those revenues to fight or to improve a particular situation. So in that sense, when we have to also reflect on how our products affects our buyers, that's our products reinforcing the qualities. If it's very segregating when it comes to money, is it like, do we actually segregate people like that? Does it actually exclude people when that can be different type of social exclusions? Is it inclusive when it comes to people with disabilities? Are we making something that only few people can access? If so, it would also be fine, but we have to be aware of it. And another one is like, are we basing our idea in consumerism? Are we basing our idea in people's insecurities, for example? Do we want to sell a lot of sustainable clothes out of telling people to buy a lot of clothes in the first place? Or to telling people that their clothes or the way they dress themselves is not valid? That would be another question that we should critically address ourselves. Another one has to do with once you are in a field or in a market, there are people who might come in and come up with the substitute. And we will see later on with entrance as subjects and now this is a substitute as products. So we might be doing a project, an initiative, that is very similar to another. But we might be actually suffering from unfair competition on that. Some companies, some governments, or some even civil society initiatives might have a bit more of greenwashing or social washing or whatever washing you want to say. Meaning that they sell something that is apparently fair, apparently green and so on. And you actually might be doing things much more responsibly, but still you're not reaching people as much as the other one that does it in a slightly worse way, when it's slightly less good with. So how are you communicating your added social environmental value? And this, although we are talking a substitute, this is another stakeholder that we have to consider. And it's who are disseminating our products, our ideas are worth people's time and efforts. In that sense, we might want to consider media. We want to maybe become viral. If you manage to do so, you might want to become popular in a very particular place, in a village, in a town, in a region. You might want to be internet based, and you want to have a lot of interaction with social media. And another thing is how we are transforming substitutes into complementary products or services. Some people might be producing or might have an idea that is very similar to ours. And maybe by just tweaking a bit what we're doing, we might be able to both serve a particular goal. So if one project is trying to improve the governance of mining, and another project is trying to improve the environmental aspects of mining, you might want to instead of think that you are substituting each other and competing, you might want to take them in different stages. OK, I deal with this, and the other person deals with that. And it might be just a bit of adaptation from what we have that might not be costly. It just might be a matter of being resilient and adaptive. And the other concept is we mentioned once we are in the field, we talked about rivals and how that term might be a bit imprecise. And now we're talking of new entrants. And the first question, if we are in the field, for example, in the field of women empowerment, we might think that we should be the only one. There should be no new entrants in that field, because otherwise there's going to be competition for that. But if we think about that, are we sure that with our initiative, we are actually covering everything that should be covered? Are we helping as much as needed? Do we have the capacity to solve the problem only by ourselves? That's probably not the case. So maybe what we have to do with possible new entrants is become their mentors and their possible allies as long as we manage to have, and now I'm bringing this back, integration. We should integrate when it comes to building efficient with our resources and possible new entrants and make this a win-win situation and instead of trying to push out people who want to compete with us, trying to bring them in and see how you can collaborate, of course, in a way that is not fixed in prices or things like those. That would be unfair practices that are punished by law. And when it comes, especially in social impacts, we could actually do a lot by just coordinating with new entrants and with substitute products. And so I've been mentioning bits and pieces of what would be bad examples of a very nice, young, proactive, popular idea that eventually might be doing more harm than good. And we can think, for example, for a very good idea that has a very solid revenue model, a very marketing system, a very logical marketing system, very financial, very good financial KPIs and so on. But we have to start considering if that idea takes raw materials source from countries that cannot guarantee that people are treated nicely when we extract those materials, that we actually don't even know. There's no traceability. If they are hiring workers under poor working conditions and this comes not just to child slavery, but there are poor working conditions for adults that come from not respecting the minimum wage. Or in some other cases, even applying the minimum wage in countries where the minimum wage is non-existent or very low, it would be something that is sticking towards legal, but still it would be a bit doubtful in moral terms. Another time would be if you had the chance of smashing and push out possible competitors or people who might be doing things similar to you, although they might actually contribute to improving things as you are, should you actually push them out or should you try to find ways so both of you cover different parts of the problem? Are you advertising your idea based on, for example, racist concepts of these people need saving? When you might be, it might be more like, there should be more empowerment in these communities. Are we promoting insecurities to people? And I mentioned that, for example, we're making a very nice cosmetic product that is very green and it's taking these formulas that don't harm animals, but at the same time, are we telling women that they shouldn't age and so on? We should consider those things because we have different impacts on that. Are we promoting consumerism? Are we basing our revenue model on people consuming over what they need? Are we manufacturing products that are difficult to recycle, that are difficult to, in the triage, is it difficult to separate these different components? We should be considering that. And of course, this comes from the beginning of the presentation. Even if it makes financial sense and it's being recommended by many financial experts and even if you take legal structures that might eventually make you avoid paying taxes, you should be considering whether paying taxes is fair and whether paying taxes is something that you should do and instead of trying to avoid it with the complex legal schemes. So the conclusion for that is like, and I'm sure many people might be watching this, it's like, OK, apart from all the problems that I had, you just gave us more problems and more things to look at and more things to make this more complicated. And to some extent, I actually agree. And this is because we are trying to make things that are almost perfect. We are trying to help people to be financially sustainable, to give proper jobs, and at the same time, be responsible with all the stakeholders that we have to be responsible with. That's even more difficult than conventional businesses. And that's why you are in this program. Otherwise, you would just be in any accelerator or incubator that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with SDGs. They might be telling you to produce a lot and sell a lot and try to pay as little as possible to your workers and try to get as much as possible from the people who buy it from you. But that's not what we want to do here. We want to improve things in a way that works for the most people possible and coming with the principle of leaving no one behind in an inclusive way. We shouldn't be promoting further exclusion. But at the same time, and although this is not going to be particularly easier than the regular way of starting out businesses and or ideas, there are many people who would be willing to pay this extra or to do this extra effort to work for someone who are committed to be your social base of customers, partners. There are some people who would actually like to work with some suppliers of resources that are traceable. They might be more expensive. But they would like to do so. So in that sense, being responsible makes sense. And there is niche for people to join in. And there will be, hopefully, more people willing to pay fair prices for their products. And I think that should include ourselves. So finishing with the practical exercise. And I've been mentioning that we have to reflect on and be critical with our own ideas and how we approach them and how we approach the people that would be involved with that. So the practical exercise to you, because it's something that is basically an introspective exercise, is do a time capsule for yourself. There's been questions throughout this presentation, critical questions, that maybe while you're preparing your idea, when you're working on it in the very early stages, you could answer them and think how you expect them to be. How you expect to be, how responsible you expect to be with your suppliers. How do you expect to be with new entrants, and so on. And at the same time, once you've answered those critical questions to yourself, because that's for you, I would like to have a look at them to make more critical questions or comments to your first impressions on your time capsule. And the second part would be a conclusion with two questions. We want to improve the current reality or our reality or the reality around us with our ideas. So after considering everything, we have to be able to identify the trade-offs and the benefits from the socioeconomic and environmental perspective of our initiative. In the end, if we had to do a social cost-benefit analysis, social environmental justice cost-benefit analysis, is our idea improving things? Yes or no? Hopefully, we will. And it's probably the case, but still we should be able to identify things that we are to improve something. We have to do something that might be detrimental for someone else. And that's fine, because still the system doesn't really allow us to improve everything at once. And with that, I would like to thank all of you for your attention. I hope this presentation prompts you to just critically assess the possible stakeholders and partners that you might have once you enter the field or the markets with your initiative. And yeah, I hope to see you in the forums and the Q&A. And I hope that the rest of the program goes very well with you. Thank you. Thank you so much, Javier. That was a fantastic presentation. I think it was very clear in laying out sort of some of the challenges to partnership. It can take time to build trust. And it can take sort of human capacity to try to identify your stakeholders you want to work with. I liked your point about to be mindful about who you might be kicking out of the space. And I like your point as well that the Porter's Five Forces is sort of a really excellent starting point at trying to map some of your partners. But I want to remind our participants something that you said as well to also, when they're going through their exercise, keep in mind about who might not traditionally be thought of as being part of those Five Forces, who they might want to include. I think it's great too that you showed some of the great strong opportunities and reasons why sort of collaboration can be really beneficial. So you talked about increasing your efficiency. You talked about needing good mentors. You talked about how it can increase your impact, particularly if you're looking at maybe somebody in your supply chain building trust with them, improving their performance as well as your own, reducing risk by sort of upping your social license to operate by making sure that you're not greenwashing something and that you're truly bringing about change. And I agree with you as well. You made a point about how there are lots of people who want to work with businesses like this. There was recently a study that was done on young people just recently graduating from high school and colleges and looking for jobs and how there's an ever-increasing number of people who want to work for an organization that's doing good instead of just earning a lot of money, which had been sort of the previous generation's objective. So I'm glad you highlighted that as well. That was excellent. It doesn't look like we have any questions. Give everybody one more minute to text. But if we don't have any questions, I will remind them as well. Another thing that you said, you'll be logging into the Babeli platform for the next couple of weeks looking at people's homework. And if they have questions, they can reach out to you directly through the Babeli platform. And with that, I think we will close here. Javier, thank you again so much for sharing your time and expertise with us. And we look forward to seeing all of you and your assignments completed on Babeli. Thank you very much, Lauren, and in general, the SDSN youth for having me for this presentation. It was my pleasure. And I'm looking forward to interacting with the rest of the participants in the platform. Thank you.


Now there is another type of focusing also that is known as age focusing. What does it mean? So far what we have done actually when a charged particle arrives here it suddenly enters into the magnetic field here and it suddenly exits the magnetic field here. This was our model so far and here you can see when we take the sector dipole magnet sector dipole magnet in this case this is the age of the magnet at the entry side and this is the age of the magnet at the exit side. So in this kind of orientation of this magnet which is drawn here particle trajectory is coming at 90 degree of the age and it also exits at the 90 degree of the age here. So particle trajectory enters and exits perpendicular to the edges of the magnet. This orientation is known as sector magnet. Now what happens in this case? In this case we have seen that a trajectory which is deviated or coming in for positive x having some deviation non vanishing deviation from the descent trajectory it will have a longer path in the magnet so it will bend more and the trajectory which is coming for negative x it will have a shorter path length in the magnet it will bend less and so positively deviated trajectory and negatively deviated trajectory both trajectories comes closer to the design path after exiting the magnetic field. So this kind of focusing was the geometrical focusing. Now suppose instead of this orientation we have magnet in this orientation means magnetic edges now is here and entering of the trajectory is not at the right angle. Still you can see we have chosen the magnet such that the design trajectory having exactly the same path length as in the case of the sector magnet. So design trajectory is not changed due to this orientation because we have taken the same length of the descent trajectory inside the bending magnet. So now this magnet have different effect at the edges than the sector magnet while we can see very easily here that this trajectory in the case of sector magnet it starts bending from the here. But in the case of this orientation of the magnetic edge it starts bending from here. So in this case at the exit also bending stops here while in the case of sector magnet bending was taking place up to this point. So in the case of sector magnet bending was more for this trajectory while in this orientation bending is exactly same or path length is exactly same for this trajectory as of the design trajectory means both trajectory bends with the same angle. And similar is the case if particle is deviated in the negative x direction you can see here in the case of present magnet trajectory enters here and starts bending from here. Instead of sector magnet particle was going straight up to this line and then bending started from here. And similarly in the case of exit edge in the case of sector magnet bending stops here. And in the case of present magnet bending takes place up to this point. So bending is more than the sector magnet if particle is deviated in the negative direction negative x direction. So again this trajectory is also having the same bending angle because of the same path length as of the design trajectory. So these trajectories which are coming parallel to the design trajectory exit parallel after the magnet also. So geometric focusing is now absent. So orientation of the magnet how the edges are oriented with the design axis it defines what is the amount of the focusing at the edges effect of the focusing on the edges. So geometrical focusing is affected by the orientation of the magnet. Now this edges we will see what is the effect of these edges on the focusing. So this will produce different effects so we will quantify those effects. So now suppose this is the magnetic edge this is the magnetic edge and design trajectory is exiting at certain angles from the design from the magnetic edge. Now we take a trajectory which is deviated from the design axis and it exits from here from the magnetic edge. The equivalent sector magnet. Equivalent sector magnet means a sector magnet. Sector magnet means the orientation of the edge is such that the design trajectory exit set the right angle to the edge. So this is the equivalent sector magnet. Equivalent sector magnet means the bending angle is same as we have the presently chosen magnet. So path length of the design trajectory is same for the sector magnet. We call that magnet as the equivalent sector magnet. Now in this case you can see that this is the deviation x at the sector edge in this path from the design axis and this angle take this angle between the current age with the sector edge as alpha. Had it been a sector magnet the bending will occur up to this point. So trajectory will come out this point in the case of the sector magnet. So the angle between the present magnet and suppose this is a sector magnet then trajectory comes out this this angle is shallow. So shy defines the extra kick in this case due to sector magnet. This is the extra additional kick in the case of sector magnet and the shy can be calculated very easily with using our previous formula of the kick that is B delta L upon B rho. B rho is just q by p. It is we discussed earlier that B rho is just a convention to write in the P by q in another way. So this will be delta L by rho shy. This is just length arc length divided by radius of curvature and in this case you can calculate the alpha very easily that delta L this delta L assuming this triangle and in the case of sector magnet this will be 90 degree. So delta L is x 10 alpha in this triangle. In this triangle you can see very easily that delta L is x 10 alpha. Now put this delta L here. So you will get shy is equal to 10 alpha by rho x and 10 alpha is just the orientation of the edge with respect to the sector edge. So this alpha defines this shy and in the case of alpha 0 means sector magnet this shy will be 0. So there will be no additional effect compared to the sector magnet. Now again you can see here that alpha is fixed if we have chosen certain orientation of the magnet when we have kept that magnet in that orientation alpha has become a fixed number. Rho is also a fixed number means for a particular magnetic field and a particular charged particle of certain energy this bending radius is fixed. So shy is proportional to x for even magnet in this orientation. So shy is proportional to x means this extra kick this extra kick is proportional to x and if kick is proportional to x means this is equivalent to a focusing action means this orientation of the edge has an effect similar to the quadrupole magnet means edge can be replaced by a quadrupole in a model of the magnet and focal length you can see from here focal length is rho by 10 alpha. Now in the case what we considered here we consider that this is the edge and the trajectory is going like this means up to this point we have curvature in the design trajectory and after this point design trajectory is straight means we are changing the curvature like this step function means here the magnetic field is some finite value and suddenly it drops to 0 and this kind of model we were using so far so this kind of model is known as hard age approximation means this was our model suddenly magnetic field rises and it becomes constant because dipole magnetic field is constant over the space so magnetic field goes like this and at the exit again it drops suddenly 0 means at the entrance and the exit we have a step function in the magnetic field actual magnetic field cannot be of this kind use just Maxwell's equation to prove that step function cannot occur in the magnetic field so in reality magnetic field will rise gradually at the edges it will become B0 after certain distance and then at the exit also it will drops gradually to 0 so how correct is our model if we are using step functions now in step function what length should we take means there is a gradual rise and gradual fall so what length should we take for the magnetic model we will see all these things now now because the angle from any magnet is integration of B dot if we take B0 B0 is the maximum magnetic field in the dipole magnet here at the center so B0 and we take some number L and this combination should gives us the integration of BDL here BDL is the actual distribution of magnetic field means magnetic field with some gradual rise and gradual fall if this integration is equal to this then this length which we have chosen is known as effective length and in hard age approximation we should take this L effective as our magnetic length so by taking this L effective we have corrected the bending angle which we will use if we have distribution of magnetic field with slowly rising magnetic field and slowly fall in it so hard age approximation in hard age approximation the magnetic length should be taken this so far we have studied the effect of ages means what is the orientation relative orientation between the magnetic age and design trajectory in the horizontal plane in which the bending was taking place what about the vertical plane we have seen that fringing can be used for focusing the charge particle in vertical plane in the lecture of cyclotron where we use azimuthally varying field for generating the fringing and that fringing leads to focusing in the vertical plane so how this fringing leads to focusing in the vertical plane we will see now now we have a join in 3d for a given magnet here you can see this is the north pole this is the south pole and this is the median beam means exactly in the middle of these two poles a charge particles trajectory which is a design trajectory is coming from here this is the design trajectory and design trajectory is completely on the median beam now it is the entry age these are the entry age of the magnets these are entry edges so at entry edges we have fringing in the magnetic field means magnetic field will not be have perfectly straight field lines rather than it will be fringing like this like this like this the top view of this picture is given here here you can see that this is the design trajectory and inside this magnet this design trajectory will move like this if this is a positively charged particle and magnetic field line is vertically down and this is the x in our coordinate system so this orientation where the design trajectory is entering perpendicular to the age is for the sector means this age in this orientation will behave like the sector magnet now suppose we displaced the trajectory vertically up here design trajectory was that on the median plane now we have another trajectory which is deviated in the vertical direction from the median plane because we want to see the effect in the vertical direction so it is vertically shifted by some amount this is the vertical shifting so this trajectory when it comes you can see it enters in the magnetic field where the magnetic field is not perfectly perpendicular to the median plane rather than it has certain angle because fringing is there if we take tangent at this location to this ranging this will give direction of magnetic field at this location so at this location you can see that there will be a vertical component as well as horizontal component or bs now this component is exactly in the direction of motion exactly in direction of motion means v cross v for this component will be zero and only this component will have some effect on the particle motion this component will not exert any force on the particle motion because the magnetic field is in the line of velocity so we have seen that in the case of orientation which leads to sector type magnet means perpendicular to the edge vertical displacement gives no extra effect in the vertical peak there will be no vertical peak the vertical component of the magnetic field will exert a horizontal force so there will be no extra vertical force in this case so sector magnet has no any effect in the vertical plane due to fringe now we change the orientation let us see now in median plane the design trajectory is coming right from here means if we see from top the design trajectory is coming here and the edge is in this direction so now edge is not perpendicular to the design trajectory at the entrance so again we can see that because design trajectory is at the median plane is on the median plane and on median plane we have only vertical component of the magnetic field so on design trajectory there will be only horizontal component of the force so design trajectory will not fill any vertical force now we deviate another trajectory another another trajectory of the particle which is deviated in the vertical plane now when it will enter here the magnetic field is in this direction so this magnetic field will have vertical component and a component around the magnetic axis means component around this axis while the entering trajectory has velocity vector in this direction so now there is an angle now there is an angle between these two components and these this angle between these two axis means axis of the magnet and trajectory of the particle we have a vertical component of the force means if orientation of the edge is different than the sector magnetic orientation then in vertical plane fringing field will exerts a force and we now will calculate what is this force now along the magnetic axis if we are taking the step function then our magnetic field will look like this what is uz here uz defines the step function so uz will be 1 if z is greater than 0 and uz is 0 if z is less than 0 so at this point i am considering z is equal to 0 so here b is 0 and here b is b0 so at this stage we have sudden transition this was our hard edge model so hard edge magnetic field can be represented by this expression now remember the Maxwell's curl equation for the magnetic field in current free static region because there is no current on the design trajectory no coil is there so this is a current free region so del cross b will be 0 and one of the component of del cross b means x component you will get del b y by del z minus del b z by del y is 0 this is the this is from the curl equation now we have magnetic field along the viruses here so we will put del b by del z and that del b by del z will give you at the location of step function this derivative derivative will give you a delta pulse a step function when it is differentiated so at the location of this step you will have a delta function so bz will have y b0 that's right using this equation now using this equation you will have this so we now you can see that bz z is in this direction we were considering only b y and taking a step function now here we see that if we apply the Maxwell equation we automatically get a bz means only vertical component is not possible in the magnetic field you will have some bz component also so the magnetic field which you assume is not correct you have to add some component along the z axis also then it will satisfy the Maxwell equation we will see it now you have b y which you have taken and this is the correction term which you have to add for satisfying the Maxwell's curl equation now we see the divergence equation what will happen now if you will take this b y and this bz this divergence equation will not be satisfied so what you will do to satisfy this equation again we have to add a term in the magnetic field when we will add some magnetic field term to satisfy the divergence equation we will see again that curl equation is not satisfied then we will have to introduce one curl one correction term for the curl equation again divergence equation will not be satisfied so we have to again insert some term which will satisfy which will cause the satisfy of Maxwell's divergence equation and in this fashion an infinite series will be there and in this infinite series only this term is linear in y means this term bz is directly proportional to y other term will have y square and higher order now we are actually restricting ourselves to linear accelerator physics linear accelerator physics means we will neglect y square or higher order term or x square or higher order term in this course so if we will restrict ourselves to linear domain we will have linear effect up to this point and this linear effect bz is directly proportional to y is like a quarter polar effect because magnetic field is varying linearly with the coordinate means again we have seen that in vertical plane also this fringing field reduces a quarter polar effect now you can calculate this series and you will get a focal length of minus rho by tan alpha now you see the beauty here in the horizontal plane also you got the similar focal length with plus sign and in this orientation and in this orientation in the vertical plane you get the same focal length with minus sign so you can see that if a quarter polar is focusing in the vertical plane it will have a defocusing strength and similar strength in the opposite plane so this is the case here also that this age effect is similar to quadrupole so it will have certain focal length in the horizontal plane and because that focal length gives you the defocusing effect the same focal length but with focusing effect will be in the vertical plane so this is the age effect so in age effect now you can see that in certain orientation you can get focusing effect in the vertical plane why i am saying that certain orientation if you will make this alpha negative means you orient your magnet in such a manner that design trajectory comes from here then alpha will become the negative and you will get the defocusing effect in the vertical plane due to ages so age orientation with respect to trajectory defines whether your age is going to be focusing in the vertical plane or defocusing in the vertical so it is the interplay between the angle of trajectory and magnetic age so in the case of azimuthal variant magnetic field in the cyclotron we have hills and valleys and hills and valleys at the junction of hills and valleys we have fringing field and that fringing field is used for focusing the charge particle in vertical plane so now you understand how this hills and valley leads to focusing in the cyclotron and we have reached a vertical focusing in this case how really these magnets look so this is dipole magnet i have already told you in previous lecture this is another type of dipole magnet this is a quadrupole magnet this is a quadrupole magnet so you can see that this blue color this is the ferromagnet which is yoke and these are the four coils wrapped on the yoke so these are four poles and direction of the current is flowing through these coils so that this becomes the multiple if this becomes novel this will be the south pole now you can see one interesting thing here you can see a simple magnet in joint is really very complicated when it is fabricated now you can see some certain tubes here what are those tubes in such type of magnets when we want to focus very high energy beam then it requires a huge current in these coils this current may be in the order of thousand times so you have to cool down the coils with flowing current so these coils are actually hollow inside and this is a water pipe which sends water inside those tubes and this water before sending to magnets must have been treated so this have to be low conductivity otherwise shorting will take place inside the magnet so before switching on the magnets one has to have one have to have these cooling water channels inside the magnet and it should be so in real and then you can see certain points here and these points are for fixing the alignment with the coordinate system so a simple drawing of quadrupole magnet when we realize it it is a very complex job it has a mixed engineering job electrical engineering mechanical engineering and alignment engineering all these are interdisciplinary work and then a magnet can be fabricated and right now we can see that in these magnets which we use in rrcat for the biggest accelerator in India that is industry all these magnets have been fabricated indigenously in our nation and this is you can see another type of quadrupole magnet which is from the triumph which is a machine in the canada and again references are seen however the way in which i told you about the vertical focusing due to fringing is given in this paper and it is a very simple paper so you can go through this in textbook this has been treated in some other ways so in next lecture we will see how we can solve the equation of motion we have obtained equation of motion in which you have d2x by ds square plus kx is equal to zero which is similar to the simple harmonic oscillator equation however there is subtle differences what are those differences and how we can solve this equation for obtaining the charge particle trajectories we will see in the next lecture


Okay, I've been working like three jobs, probably why I never see ya, probably why I never have time for the fake friends I won't be ya, oh god I've been running now. Hey guys, what's going on? Welcome back to another video. I've got my coffee. I knew there was something missing. I knew it. We've done two reactions this morning. We've done Adam Theland and Jared Goff, two absolute legends. I've got to get into Derwyn James, safety for the Chargers, but before we do I've got to get the screen recorder going. And I need my coffee, so we've got that. I'm feeling good, feeling happy. I've got four next to me, my boy. I've got my football, I've got my Cal Poly hat, because I could only bring away very select things, you know, to my trip to Melbourne. So what I did, I bought one college top, one NFL top, one ball and one hat. What do you reckon about my choices? What do you think? This one's nice man, this is actually nice fitting. It's not so hard and like, you know, bumpy as these things are with the big numbers and things like that. Sometimes they're just like a normal feeling t-shirt, but I like it like a football themed. I don't know whether I'd actually wear NFL jerseys out anywhere, apart from here at home doing these reactions into a game. They're just, they're really bulky, you know what I mean? So, I don't know, it's a certain look. Maybe I need something a bit smaller, maybe I need like a size medium, and then I might wear it. Anyways, without further ado, let's get into it, guys.  Absolutely amazing feet. Yeah, really impressed by him. What did he get last year? He wants to be the absolute best. Derringer just made a nice read. He was actually guarding somebody in the flat. He just came up with a band and he saw the quarterback who was going to take the gap, and Derringer just told him for himself. Beats him. I'm the best at my position. To explain Derringer's game, look no further than Darlin'. You know what, man? These guys have to have that kind of confidence. They have to, because otherwise you're going to get eaten up out there on the field. Oh, that would have felt good. Fuck, man, that reminds me, actually. Down at football training yesterday, this guy, Whitey, the coach, the running bats coach, he also plays, though. He was trying to teach me how to block, so I was trying to do my first ever blocks as a halfback. Basically, it's all about technique, right? The first thing I did when I went in to go for a block is I turned my head to the side.  You need to be looking where you're going.  I didn't want to feel that jarring feel, but it's like, bro, you're playing football. Anyway, he gave me a little example of what one should be like. He literally locked me in and just threw me. He just launched me within a couple of seconds off my feet and on my back, in front of everybody. He didn't even get one run up. He just literally stood in front of me and just gave me one shove.  I was like, I just looked at him. It was a very eye-opening moment, and one that I'll never forget, actually. I'll never forget it. Ooh! Nice! Beautiful, man. Goes in with the shoulder, wraps him up, although, I mean, he wasn't working with much space. His head should have been on the other side. Would have been a bit safer, but that's all right. That greedy, slimy dog mentality. All right, Melvin. Oh! He's seen it so many times though, hasn't he? He's seen the, you know, the little in and then curl and then to an out route. And that's Travis Kelsey.  That's a good tackle. Really? Oh! So he's done it plenty of times in the past, and he always gets the first down on that play, but not this time. Oh! Oh, mate! Man, it sounds as if you're definitely up there from what I've seen. We're going to have to look at some stats, though. For sure, no doubt about it. Derwin James. First time I've heard of him, but it's not the last. How old is he? 20...23? For fuck's sake. 23. 17th pick in the first round of the draft last year. He made first team all-pro in his first year. He had 105 tackles last year, three and a half sacks, 13 pass deflections, and three interceptions. He played at Florida State. Six foot two, 215 pounds, 447 for the 40 yard dash, 40 inches on the vertical, and 11 feet on the broad jump with 21 reps on the bench press.  It was the second safety drafted in 2018 behind Alabama safety, Minka Fitzpatrick. On June 1st, the Chargers signed him to a fully guaranteed four-year $12.38 million contract that included a signing bonus of $7.09 million. He entered the training camp slated as the starting strong safety, but suffered a hamstring injury that limited his progress. He also saw competition from the role from veterans Adrian Phillips and Ray Sean Jenkins. Head coach Andrew Lynn named James the starting strong safety to begin the regular season alongside free safety, Jaleel Adai. He's a strong safety, so he's more so marking a man. He's more so towards the linebackers. He's not back in the field as a free safety. Is that right? I'm not sure. Let's have a look. What have we got here? 16 games, 16 started, made it to the playoffs in his first year, which is amazing. He had three interceptions for 30 yards, an average of 10 yards per interception, with the longest of 23. That would have felt good. Two games in the postseason, 14 combined tackles, 10 solo, four assisted, and that's about it. Wow! Look at this. The family of the man, the family. James is a cousin of Vince Williams and Carlos Williams, both former Florida State Seminoles players, as well as Mike James, former Miami Hurricanes running back. He is also the second cousin of former Miami Hurricanes and NFL star running back, Edgar and James. Alright, that's enough. Derwin James. Football's in your blood. You're made for it. And I think you're going to have a fantastic career if that was your first year. Anyways, number 31 on the list for your first year. That's not many people do that, all pro in their first year. Not many people do that at all, do they? Amazing stuff. Alright, I've already clapped my hands about six times to finish this video. We're going to do it now. Eddie Jackson, free safety for the Bears. So I'll see you then, guys. If you've liked the video, hit the like button. If you want to subscribe for more, please do. See you shortly.


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Well, my dear students, the course is Labour Policy Pakistan and the topic is judicial principles cannot be applied mechanically, Justice K. C. Das Gupta. Again, we are referring to a renowned justice of some neighbouring country and we are going to discuss the principles and tests that are applied to resolve industrial disputes. Justice K. C. Das said once, nor can the tests and the principles that have been laid down be applied mechanically or by way of Sylogism. What is Sylogism? Sylogism is that you have developed tests and principles in the judicial process. And do you apply all those principles to every situation as it is? If you apply them as it is, then it is Sylogism and it is said that you have applied it mechanically. The question is, should the principles and tests be applied mechanically? Should Sylogism be applied or should new tests and principles be created in a new situation? Here, the word test means trial, principle means rule or standard, Sylogism means applying the same formula on every situation. My dear students, Sylogism or Sylogistic approach is the easiest way to solve complicated problems and most of the problems are created by applying the same tests and principles on every situation. What should be done? Dear students, you would be enlightened to know that new situation is very important for us and we need a lot of deliberation to see if the old test or principle situation can be solved or not. If the situation is all together different, then new tests should be developed and new rules should be made. Many new situations arise, with or with bonus issues, payment of bonus to labours, health issues, holiday issues, maternity leave issues, etc. Every single dispute has its own unique status in the eyes of law and it is a principle that every event has a rational explanation and new principles and tests are developed through rational and we can avoid Sylogism. So, justice is not at all in the favour of Sylogism but in the favour of new tests and new principles to be developed to solve new emerging complicated situations. So, what is rational? Rational is basically appeal to logic, appeal to reason, appeal to mind. Hope you have understood the topic. Thank you very much indeed.


Welcome to the complete collection of John Stockton's greatest stories. First and foremost I want to say a massive thank you to everybody who's been supporting this series thus far, you guys have shown a lot of love and it's making this a very exciting series to continue on with. If you have missed any of the videos in this series, there is a link down below in the description box and on the screen right now. You can click on that link and it will take you to a playlist that has every episode so far of this series. But today we're looking at John Stockton's greatest stories. These episodes take a long time to make with all the editing, finding all the footage, piling all the clips together, piecing it up. It takes a long time to make this video so I'd really appreciate it if you guys could help me out just by hitting that like button, it really helps the videos out. If you are new feel free to hit that subscribe button and don't forget to hit that notification button so you never miss an episode in this series. Lastly comment down below which player you would like to see next in this series and without further ado, welcome to the complete collection of John Stockton's greatest stories. I can remember coming into camp and seeing things he was doing, I was like, God, I used to think my point was good, I said, he's a good guy. If you were starting a franchise today, who's your number one pick out of all the players of the NBA? I don't believe this, by the way, John Stockton, I think he's the most complete person in his position. One of the greatest points of the game. I've always said I think John Stockton is the perfect point guy.  When he stepped on the court, he was out to get you.  Probably one of the greatest players that would play the game in his position. His sense of where he was on the floor, his peripheral vision, you'd say, how did he see him? Oh, he's over there. Boom, he throws the pass over there. You can't teach what John Stockton can see. He's one of those guys, every team wants a guy like John Stockton. John Stockton was either one of the best I ever played against, but those were illegal picks. Let's get that out the way. I played against John since I was 13 years old, and he's a much better outside shooter, much better with the basketball, and when you're talking about, you know, Nash and Stockton, I just think from a toughness standpoint, I don't think there's a comparison. Well, he's the best point guard in all time. When you played against John, I mean, you had to bring your lunch. I mean, you know, there was a toughness about him that he carried that, you know, I don't know if we have anybody in our game today that really brings that to the table. Anybody really got under your skin? No question. Kenny touched on it earlier. You play a playoff series, and you go against a guy over and over again. It's inevitable. And we played Utah two years in a row, six games, so 12 games against John Stockton. John was one of the strongest guards in the league. I don't know if you guys felt that. I hear about one on the screen, yeah. Yeah, but the toughness, the competitiveness. And I have the greatest respect for him. I see him away from the court, love him, great guy.  I've never seen a therapist about this. I'm going to, this is my time to go. There you go. I can tell you feel better. My amnesty, tongue is out, full extension. Keith, and Jay and Stockton got involved. And Michael looked at Stockton and said, don't do that. And now Stockton comes up and gives it right back to Michael.  Oh my god. John was a person that would stretch the boundaries. The PG version of what he was saying. I'm allowed to say that word on TV. That's how you got it. TV, you are. You all say a lot worse than that. No, no, no, no, no, that wouldn't be a TV, I don't. You can say dirty things. You can say dirty as much as you want. It's like A-T-B-O. A-T-B is like A-T-B-O. I think that John understood there's a personal space law. And he understood how to invade that as a guard.  But John, exactly. It's so comfortable even if it's the same. He's playing a kind of European way. A little bit closer than you said. You're shooting a jump shot. It's respect that a guy's shooting a jump shot that you can't block it. So you kind of just contest. John made like he could block it.  Or when you're running out, the ball is out of bounds, he's running out. Like this trip that he would do. And then all of a sudden the guy would trip and they throw the ball in at the same time and he'd go down and lay it in. So he had a lot of those type of bastardly moves. No, no, no, no, no.  Like who was the first person that you ran into and it was like, man, it's a level. John Stockton. John Stockton embarrassed me, dog. Like John Stockton made me feel like, damn, dog. Like, do I know how to play basketball?  Like what the fuck?  I had never been taking out the game so fast. He had ripped me like twice. Like and not even like ripped on the ball.  You know, I'm going for the outlet the wrong way. You know what I mean? But I'm still, you know what I mean? I get the loose ball. Oh, he gone still. I'm like, y'all might have to do something. He see your mistakes. And he was tough. Hard nose. He was. Take your under the feet. Screams, yeah. Like I remember. Was he way bigger than what you thought he was? Yeah, he was. He was way bigger than what I thought he was. He was a lot taller. Like, you know, when you look at him on the court, on TV, you know, like his look could be deceiving. It's almost like how Steph Curry looked. Like on TV, he looked like, oh man, like he just looked like a regular dude.   Yeah. John Stockton, though, he would like, he was so dope, dog. Cause he, he walked you all the way down to the wing. Right. And he would walk you to the same spot, whether you pressuring him or not. Like he knew what spot he was going to get to. He knew what he was like, he was fucked once he got to the spot that he was going to get to. Best point guard to ever play the game is who? Oh, John Stockton. Magic Johnson. I mean, those are the, those, those two are the best to probably ever play it. What did Stockton do better than you? I think he had like 3,000. He said the table, he had 5,000 more assists than I did. Okay. All right. And steals. I mean, he's the all-time assist leader in steals. And, you know, people don't really talk about the steals as much as the assists, but, you know, he plays both sides of the court and that's what makes him a complete player. When you look at those records, it's just, it's, it's amazing. And I just don't think he gets the do that he deserves. Well, he played in Utah. That's why. Well, yes, I, I, that's, that's fine. But still, I think sometimes he's left out of the mix of, you know, great point guards, great, great point guards. And, and we forget to sometimes mention him. All right. Now I remember one story when we had lost a few games in the row, we were back east and we were in Charlotte. Okay. And someone, namely some, a point guard named John Stockton had heard, overheard something supposedly on the radio that grandmama Larry Johnson had said about mailman. Do you remember this? Yeah, he, he, he got my goat that night. He, he, he needed something to get a goat. Mailman went, I think, for 56 that night. And I got every pass, I think, from, from Stockton. You, you fabricated a quote. Is that, you had the story, you made up a quote. He lied. Forget to fabricate, he lied. Steve, I had, I had some reliable sources that told me. Oh, we get away with reliable sources. That told me that somebody had said something. I merely relayed what I had heard from a lot of people. He's training for a career in journalism. This guy's got all the makings of a good guy. You hear reliable source. My source told me. Okay. I've never really gotten over, my first year I got traded to Houston and he had to shout over me to, to send the jazz to the finals. Russell will inbound at half court. That was so many things all wrapped up in the one. It was, it was our first chance to go to the championship. It was really the first time we'd been able to beat Houston at anything or, or, they just year after year, we kept running in those guys in the playoffs and, and to finally get over that hump. That was I think a snapshot of John Stockton that we have never seen before. I think other than the night that he was honored at the Delta center, the most emotional we've ever seen him. Welcome back to Primetime Stockton and Larry, you watched that again. I saw with great, great detail, attention to detail. Yep. And I got to tell you what happened in that play. And if you, now if you can see it again, it would mean even more. But at the time out, the coaches are over doing their thing and Carl says, hang on. He says, let me tell you what we ought to do.  Now, and so they let the stock, now they called a pick. Okay, he didn't pick Drexler. He grabbed Drexler. Drexler wasn't going anywhere all night. And he didn't get called for it because they were watching Stock and then the infamous Bill Walton, uh-oh, and he drilled it. That had to be one of the great moments of jazz history. Uh-oh. Stockton, open three, catch! I was gonna come to you about that because so many people miss the pick, which is the reason the whole thing worked. And as Larry said, it really wasn't a pick. It was like fourth and one, and you stopped the running back.  You know, not a lot of them would do it. So I added in my mind that if there's any time that they're gonna do it with, who knows what would happen? I said, you know what, Stock? I said, you're going to be open.  And I went out there and it's like, that's the only thing came to my mind is not just say barrel hugging, but holding and see what happened. And when Stock was so open, when the ball left his hand, I knew it was in. It's just one of those things. So it was like, man, it was unbelievable. Most memorable play in your career? Oh yes, about four, that play right there. And he had a lot of them, but just that play right there. And I think that's the most excited I've ever seen, John. But it's like some of the hits he took in the game for me. And people need to go back and realize, half of those points, I wasn't a guy, I was out wide, open under the basket. But just the intensity and what he bought to the game was just, I don't know, it was just unbelievable. Don's Hacken was one of the toughest guys I've ever played against there. We had a series on the playoffs. It was our first series in Sacramento. And we were playing against Utah, Great Carmel on the Stockton. And I felt that our team was in all of them. We were younger.  Coach said, are you sure? I said, yeah. I said, trust me, Coach, this is the first game. We just need to do it like, you know, they're prepared for everything that's coming. They don't expect it. I lay him out on the screen. I'm talking about, I lay him out. One of the best screens I ever did. I got my shoulder kind of in that head area, too. Kind of making a little dirty.  Do you know how you're moralizing that? You know what I mean? Yeah, he was one of the toughest guys. And I loved it, too. After that game, we would play him in the playoffs. And I would make rookie's weight on the bus. And I would say, watch the baddest man in the world pull up. And they're like, what do you mean? They think I'm going to talk about like his cars and all this. And John Stockton would come to the game literally in a minivan, pop his kids out, come in there, and bust us up. And he would show up. And he would probably have a plaid shirt on and jeans or something. His hair parted neatly on the side. Look, he'd be so unassuming. He'd be a guy that they probably check his ID in other arenas. Oh, yeah. You even thought he was coming straight out of Catholic Church? One of the kids up there lighting the candles? Or you thought, yeah, he was the valet. You definitely didn't think he was as bad a man as he was. But he knew that. And he knew that being unassumed was part of his swag. And so he knew that. And he used that to his advantage, too. And every once in a while, on the bus, we would hear it from the back of the bus coming out. Some cliche that I had, you know, and that guy wasn't ready. When we called on him, we pushed his button, but he wasn't ready. And John could imitate that. Deadly, you're making a million a year. Griffith, you're making $500,000, $300,000, $600,000. What's Larry Bird worth? $18 million? $20 million? He's kicking our butts. He was trying to motivate us. We were down by 20. So we went out and lost by 30. A guy who still apparently gets in fights and pick up games, if we can believe what we hear in Spokane, Washington. Well, the thing about stock, and I have to go back to Coach and Larry, one of the, if not the toughest player I ever played with. Literally, when he used to set picks for me, and I felt bad. I knew the ball was coming to me. Every single time he would set a pick, in every game, I would say, God, stock, be careful. He looked like what? And then after the game, his shoulder would be literally swollen. And I just remember a time in training camp where he was going after a loose ball. And of course, I hit stock thinking it was somebody else who was picking on stock doing the practice, another guard, because we had our little thing, and it was stopped. So I hit the wrong guy. And stock just brushed it off. I'm like, well, I know what you meant to do, but he was like one of the toughest guys that I've ever played with. You said that he was the one guy you just could not get under his skin. That you couldn't get under their skin, where their guy's? John Stockton. John Stockton. Really? Could never. How is that? Because John Stockton never said anything to no one. He didn't never say nothing to me.   He's very serious about it. He's a smart basketball player. Everybody say he's dirty, but I think that's wrong. I think that's not a statement for him. I think that he doesn't understand. He goes out and play basketball the way he knows how to play hard. He always just stayed away from me. He didn't say a thing to me, and it got to me so much, because what he did was, is he just didn't pay attention to me. And then if I say something anything about him, my cuss or anything, he'll just walk away. And that was a problem. When you don't give me a response, that really hurts me, because then you're not listening to me. And he was the only guy that ever did that, never listened to me. And I said, what am I doing? And then all of a sudden, and then all of a sudden he'll tell me, he'll take a charge, he'll give me on the bench, and then he'll just look at me and nod. And then I figured it out. I said, I gotta stop talking to him. I just got a plane. And I got to beat him with what he does. Don't say nothing to him and go at him. And when I start going at him and I figured him out, they start doubling me and they start switching players on me. And they didn't let him guard me at one point. And then I said, okay, I figured him out. I figured him out. Don't say nothing. Just go at him. And then the game became more competitive with me and him. It wasn't like I was scared of him. Hardest person you ever guarded, man. I'm gonna say John Stockton, man. I've been getting a lot of slack for this guy here. Everybody's been asking me why he is the toughest person in the guard, other than Michael, instead of Michael Jordan. First of all, it's my opinion. So that's the way it's gonna go. You look good. You look good. Because you said that John Stockton was more difficult to defend than Michael Jordan blasted me to me. And you have to defend yourself because how long did you really guard Michael Jordan? Man, listen, he was a guy who was fundamentally sound. He was set picks. He would do the right thing. He would shoot 12 times, make 10, and all that. He was just great. He wasn't tougher than Jordan. Yes, he was. Yes, he was. You guys didn't play against him. I did. Let me ask you this seriously, because when you say that, people are gonna be like, are you joking? And they did today. A lot of people. I know, a lot of people. And I gotta get enough time to explain. Not just face off the number of times that you saw John Stockton, but you're saying that he was more fundamentally sound than Michael Jordan. We were more athletic than he was. We were mad because he set picks and said he was dirty. If a guy comes and shoot 12 times, makes nine of them, shoots eight free throws and makes seven of them. That's 20-something points and have 15 assists and four steals a game and works out with Carl Malone and can deal it on a continuous basis. And I have to play against him nine and seven and nine times a year. That is hard to call. No, I believe that. Gary, let's be honest.  True, that's true. That's true. That's a thing too. He wouldn't talk back to me. When Michael Jordan, he's a competitor, he's gonna go back at me that is easier for me to deny him the ball and do a lot of things. Wow. Then he gave you 50. He didn't give me 50. You gotta read your stats, right, baby? Just a little short story about him. He's the only guy, when I got into the NBA and I wasn't as good as I thought I was gonna be for the first two years, I watched him. And when I watched him, he's a player that all kids watch right now. I might've been more athletic than he was, but he did it the same way every night. Every night. For a guy, for him to only play 32 minutes, come in and shoot the ball 12 times, make nine or 10 of them shots, shoot eight free throws and make seven of them and then have 15 assists and four steals. That's the reason why he's the hardest person I ever had to guard. And that's why I respect him very much. Players were playing pop a shot with each other and it was winter stays on. Well, after we've been playing for a while, this 12 year old kid in a wheelchair comes up to John and wants to, or it comes to the, you know, can I play? You got, yeah, you can't. Well, it turns out the kid's pretty good.  John gets up and starts blocking his shot. I found, wait a minute, there's something wrong with his picture and then I realized there wasn't really anything wrong with it, it was just a very clear definition of how competitive John Stockton is. One of the stories I got is his toughness. We was a tournament of America's and we was in Portland, Oregon and he did something to his leg where his leg actually wouldn't bend back out. It would always flare up every nine then, every once or two years actually where the bone will pop out. So we had training camp in Chicago and we're stretching. As we were stretching and ready to get up, Stockton couldn't get up. So he looked over at me and said, so of course I knew what it was.  The trainer from Miami. And he said, look, you need to pull on this really hard and it'll pop back in. Well, this guy here wanted no liability at all. So I watched as he did it himself. When he went to the Olympics, you know, he had a broken fibula and a lot of players that would have been a way to cop out. I made the Olympic team, but I broke my leg or something, but he continued to compete. There are a lot of great players in this league, but somehow they seem to get injured or miss games and John Stockton, you pretty much can pencil in 82 games every year and you know what you're gonna get and it doesn't matter if he's banged up, if he's sore, if he's hurt. You know, he's gonna be there.  It was, he should not play a number of games. And he was hurt sometimes so bad that I wouldn't even get eye contact with him in the game. I just say, how you doing? Oh, I'm fine. I'm ready to play. Never youth excuses.  Yep. And that has been John Stockton's greatest stories. If you enjoyed the video, I'd really appreciate it if you guys could hit that like button. It really helps the channel out. If you enjoy this video and you'd like to see more, be sure to hit that subscribe button and the notification button so you never miss an episode of this series. 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