I can hardly think of a greater pleasure than to introduce the President of the United States to this audience. My ties to both Bonnet-Brith and the President go back many years, and this occasion gives us the opportunity to reminisce for just a few moments. Today, Brith means a great deal to me. Where's the rest of the pressure that I now introduce the President of the United States? Thank you, Max Fisher. If I'd be really smart, I'd just sit down and leave your introduction to it, and I wouldn't speak. I thank you very much. He's a longtime friend. And I thank all of you. It's a deep honor for me to speak to you, the members of one of the oldest and largest Jewish organizations in America. For more than 140 years, Bonnet-Brith has sponsored religious, cultural, and civic programs, conducted studies of vital issues, combated bigotry, and worked tirelessly to advance the cause of tolerance and humanity. And because of your efforts, today our country has a bigger heart, a deeper sense of the generosity of spirit that must always define America. And on behalf of all Americans, I thank you. Four years ago, as a private citizen, I argued that the strength and well-being of the United States and Israel are bound inextricably together. No policy, I have said, no matter how heartfelt, no matter how deeply rooted in the humanitarian vision we share, can succeed if the United States of America continues its descent into economic impotence and despair. But today, as President, I come before you to report on the progress that we've made together during these past four years. And once again, I want to talk about American policy toward Israel, today's new policy of deepened friendship and strengthened support. But first, permit me to share with you my view of how, working together, the American people have replaced our own nation's descent into impotence and despair with the rebirth of freedom, prosperity, and hope. Four years ago, we saw the first years of back-to-back double-digit inflation since World War I. The prime interest rate was rising sharply, and in December 1980, it reached a point not seen since the Civil War. In just four years, taxes roughly doubled, and average monthly mortgage payments more than doubled, and the real after-tax income of the average American actually began to decline. It all added up to the worst economic crisis our country had faced since the Great Depression. In foreign affairs, we had lost the respect of friend and foe alike, and our willpower had grown weak and soft, undermining commitments to allies like Israel. Our leaders seemed to have lost faith in the American people and in America's future. They spoke of a national malaise. On television, we saw the starts and stripes being burned in foreign capitals. And from Afghanistan to Grenada, the Soviets were on the march.  But today, just four years later, we're seeing not humiliation, but well-justified pride. Pride in our country, our accomplishments, and ourselves. On the economic front, from New York Harbor to San Diego Bay, a vast and vigorous economic expansion is taking place. Inflation is plummeted to just 4 percent, and the prime interest rate has fallen by almost nine points. Consumer spending is up, housing starts are up, and take-home pay is up. Our tax rate reductions have restored incentives to the American people, and when tax indexing goes into effect this January, they'll get more help in the form of long overdue protection against the unfairness of bracket creep. The best news of all during the past 19 months, six and a half million men and women have found jobs that we've created on an average each month, more jobs than all the common market countries combined created in the last 10 years. Europe is calling our success the American miracle. But as we've worked to promote economic growth, we've made certain that the safety net for the truly needy has remained in place. Indeed, after correcting for inflation, under our administration, average food stamp payments, Medicare payments, Medicaid payments have all risen. We can and are promoting economic vitality while showing the disadvantaged genuine compassion. On civil rights, we have enforced the law with new determination. The Justice Department, since we took office, has filed more criminal charges on civil rights violations, brought more violators to trial, and achieved more civil rights convictions than ever before. So let no one doubt our commitment. As president, I will enforce civil rights to the fullest extent of the law. Yet at the same time, we remain unalterably opposed to an idea that would undermine the very concept of equality itself. Discriminatory quotas. Ours is a nation based on the sacredness of the individual, a nation where all women and men must be judged on their own merit, imagination, and effort. Not on what they are, but on what they do. Now, you know, I can remember a time, I'm old enough to remember a time when America did have quotas, and they were used in an attempt to make discrimination legitimate and permanent, keeping Jews and other targets of bigotry out of colleges, medical schools, and jobs. And I can't state it too forcefully. This type of thing must never happen again. To combat crime, our administration has increased the law enforcement budget by more than 20 percent, established 12 regional drug task forces around the country, and hired more than 1,900 new investigators and prosecutors. We've also reasserted some very basic values, values that say there is such a thing as right and wrong. That the innocent victim is entitled to as much protection under the law as the accused. That individual actions do matter. And that, yes, for hardened criminals, preying on our society, punishment must be certain and swift. And now that we're getting back to these fundamentals of our Judeo-Christian tradition, the will of the people is at last being done. In 1982, reported crime dropped 3 percent, the first decline since 1977. And last year, reported crime dropped a 7 percent. And this is the first time the serious crime index has ever shown a drop for the second year in a row, and the sharpest decline in crime statistics since 1960. In the armed forces, our troops have newer and better equipment, and the morale has soared as we've begun to give them the pay, the training, and the respect they've always deserved. And in foreign affairs, our country is being respected again throughout the world as a leader for peace and freedom. We've strengthened our relations with Asian allies like Korea and Japan, deepened our friendship with China. In Europe, we and our NATO allies went through months of Soviet attempts to divide us and emerge more firmly united than ever. And in Central America, we're supporting the free nations of the region against the threat posed to them by the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua. In July of 1983, it was my privilege to meet a brave refugee from Nicaragua, Isaac Stavisky. He told me about the 50 Jewish families who had emigrated to Nicaragua from Eastern Europe since the 1920s, and about the tragedy that befell them. But let me read you Isaac's own words. Nicaraguan Jews never encountered anti-Semitism until the Sandinistas started their revolution. Graffiti by Sandinistas was widespread with attacks on Jews and their religion. One was death to the Jewish pigs. In 1978, the Sandinistas sent a strong message to the entire community when the synagogue was attacked by five Sandinistas wearing face handkerchiefs. They set the building on fire by throwing gasoline in the main entrance doors, shouting PLO victory slogans and anti-Jewish defamatory language. Once the Sandinistas came to power, they moved swiftly against Jews. These own properties were among the first to be confiscated and Jews were forced into exile. Permit me to air that on the first anniversary of the Sandinista revolution, Yasser Arafat visited Nicaragua and spoke these words. What the Nicaraguan people did in Nicaragua will be done by the Palestinians. Today, some in our national life would have America take a position of weakness in Central America or through callous indifference withdraw from that region altogether. These politicians would give free reign to Marxist-Leninists who would persecute Central American Catholics and Jews, leaving them defenseless against Sandinista intolerance. We stand four square on the side of human liberty, and I pledge to you that we will maintain that stand as long as I am in this office. Anyone who has contemplated the horror inflicted on Jews during World War II, the deaths of millions in Cambodia, or the travail of the Mosquito Indians in Nicaragua, must understand that if free men and women remain silent in the face of oppression, we risk the destruction of entire peoples. I know that Ben-Aberith has been among the most concerned of the group's advocating American support for the genocide convention. With a cautious view in part due to the human rights abuses performed by some nations that have already ratified the documents, our administration has conducted a long and exhaustive study of the convention. And yesterday, as a result of that review, we announced that we will vigorously support, consistent with the United States Constitution, the ratification of the genocide convention. And I want you to know that we intend to use the convention in our efforts to expand human freedom and fight human rights abuses around the world. Like you, I say in a forthright voice, never again. There's one final aspect of our national renewal that I must mention. The return that millions of Americans are making to faith. Faith as a source of strength, comfort, and meaning. This new spiritual awareness extends to people of all religions and all beliefs. Irving Crystal has written, the quest for a religious identity is, in the post-war world, a general phenomenon experienced by Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike. It does not seem moreover to be a passing phenomenon, but rather derives from an authentic crisis, a moral and spiritual crisis, as well as a crisis in Western liberal secular thought. In our country, Crystal asserts, ever since the Holocaust and the emergence of the state of Israel, American Jews have been reaching toward a more explicit and meaningful Jewish identity. And according to Rabbi Seymour Siegel of the Jewish Theological Seminary, this trend among American Jews is illustrated by a growing interest in Jewish history and the Hebrew language, but the rise of, and I hope I get this right, Baha'u Tenshuva, the movement, a powerful movement of Jews, young and old, orthodox, conservative and reformed, returning to the ancient ways of the faith. As Americans of different religions find new meaningfulness in their beliefs, we do so together, returning together to the bedrock values of family, hard work and faith in the same loving and almighty God. And as we welcome this rebirth of faith, we must even more fervently attack ugly intolerance. We have no place for haters in America. Let me speak plainly. The United States of America is and must remain a nation of openness to people of all beliefs. Our very unity has been strengthened by this pluralism. That's how we began. This is how we must always be. The ideals of our country leave no room whatsoever for intolerance, anti-Semitism or bigotry of any kind, none. The unique thing about America is a wall in our Constitution separating church and state. It guarantees there will never be a state religion in this land, but at the same time it makes sure that every single American is free to choose and practice his or her religious beliefs or to choose no religion at all. Their rights shall not be questioned or violated by the state. During the dark days of World War II, legend has it an event took place that I believe is a timeless symbol of regard for our fellow men, the true tolerance and brotherhood demand. Soon after the Nazis invaded Denmark in 1940, they published an edict that all Jews identified themselves by wearing an armband showing the Star of David. Well, the next day, the Christian King of Denmark appeared in public. He was wearing a Star of David. I was told on my one visit to Denmark there that after he had done that, every citizen of Denmark from then on appeared in the streets wearing the Star of David. We in America have learned the lesson of the Holocaust. We shall never allow it to be forgotten. Oppression will never extinguish the instinct of good people to do the right thing. In America, Jew, Christian, Muslim, believers of all kinds and nonbelievers too, as George Washington wrote to a Jewish congregation in Rhode Island, each shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid. A renewal of faith and confidence, a resurgent economy, a rebirth of strength and purposefulness in our foreign relations. Yes, we Americans have made a new beginning. Just as four years ago I said that we must. And this new beginning is good not only for us but for our allies. And now it is to our relations with Israel that I would like to turn. The first step in understanding American-Israeli relations is to recognize our common values, aspirations, and interests. This has fundamental consequences for our diplomacy and an environment of widespread hostility to Israel. Nowhere does this hostility appear more clearly than in that international institution that should be a citadel of goodwill, but that all too often becomes a platform for propaganda, the United Nations. From the 1970s on, the United Nations has too often allowed itself to become a forum for the defamation of Israel. In 1975, for example, the United Nations' third committee proposed an anti-Semitic resolution that condemned Israel as racist. The American delegate Leonard Garment objected forcibly, arguing that the resolution used the word racist not as a term for a very real and concrete set of injustices, but merely an epithet to be flung at whoever happens to be one's adversary. Those were his words. Nevertheless, the resolution passed by 70 votes to 29 with 27 abstentions. The resolution then went to the United Nations General Assembly, which ratified it by a vote of 72 to 35. The words that our ambassador to the United Nations, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, spoke at that moment of shame, were forthright and courageous. The United States rises to declare before the world that it does not acknowledge it will not abide by and it will never acquiesce in this infamous act. Sadly, in the years thereafter, the United States did not always give Israel such steadfast support. American policy toward Israel was often weak and muddled. It reached a low point on March 1, 1980. That day, the American delegate to the United Nations actually voted in favor of a resolution that repeatedly condemned Israel. Some 48 hours later, President Carter disavowed the vote and announced to the press that it had all been a mistake, a bad mistake. It certainly had. Since taking office, our administration has used every effort to reaffirm before the world our unwavering support for the State of Israel. In the United Nations, our stand has been made unmistakable by our ambassador and your good friend, Gene Kirkpatrick. Just three weeks ago at the United Nations Population Conference in Mexico City, we joined Israel in opposing and voting against a resolution that attacked the State of Israel. Let me make it plain to the friends and enemies of Israel alike that what Max Fisher just told you is absolutely true and still the policy of this government, and that is ever expelled. Yes, Max, and all of you, we walk out together with Israel. In concrete terms, our administration has strengthened the American-Israeli alliance in three crucial ways. We have upgraded and formalized our strategic cooperation. For the first time in history, under our administration, the United States and Israel have agreed on a formal strategic relationship. The American-Israeli Joint Political Military Group has already begun regular meetings. Together, we are developing plans for joint efforts to counter the Soviet threat to our mutual interests in the Middle East. Recently, we renewed an American-Israeli Memorandum of Agreement that provides for cooperation in military research and development, procurement, and logistics. Under the terms of the agreement, the United States has already purchased Israeli manufactured radios, remotely piloted vehicles, anti-tank weapons, and components for sophisticated aircraft. We in turn are making available the latest technology for the development of the Israeli-designed Levy fighter aircraft, and for a new class of missile attack boat, the SAR-5. Second, we've markedly increased our economic assistance to Israel. From 1981 to 1984, we provided Israel with aid amounting to nearly $9.5 billion, more than has been provided by any previous administration over a comparable time. First as important, we have restructured the form of our assistance. Indeed, in 1985, our entire $2.6 billion in aid to Israel will take the form not of loans, but of grants. And third, we have begun formal negotiations with Israel for a free trade area agreement. When signed and ratified, this agreement will allow the duty-free entry of Israeli products into the United States and will at the same time completely open the Israeli market to American goods. Over the past five years, our trade with Israel has been growing at an average annual rate of some 10 percent. This free trade agreement will enable that vital economic partnership to grow even more quickly in years to come. These measures have made our relations with Israel closer and our friendship stronger than at any time in the history of our two nations. Indeed, Prime Minister Shamir recently described American-Israeli relations as having never been better. And that warm relationship is crucial as we strive together for peace in the Middle East. So let me outline our work in this regard. America's peace efforts still stand on the foundation of the Camp David Accords. Those Accords, which established peaceful relations between Israel and Egypt, led to the return of the Sinai to Egypt by Israel in April of 1982, and the United States was proud to play a central role in achieving this step of the Camp David process. Then on September 1st of 1982, I set forth a set of fair and balanced positions on the key issues, issues which the negotiating parties must deal with to achieve a lasting peace. The positions I outlined included our firm opposition to the formation of any independent Palestinian state. Today, those positions remain fully valid, and they represent the foundation of our continuing labors. Let me assure you, we will never attempt to impose a solution on Israel, nor will we ever weaken in our opposition to terrorism by the PLO or anybody else. As I said when I addressed you in 1980, terrorists are not guerrillas or commandos or freedom fighters or anything else. They're terrorists and should be identified as such. We will go on working with all our hearts to help the people of the Middle East achieve a just and lasting settlement, a settlement that agrees in the words of my statement of September 1982 that Israel has a right to exist in peace behind secure and defensible borders, and it has a right to expect its neighbors to recognize this. Today the United States is rebuilding its defenses, and that is restoring confidence in our leadership and making the parties more willing to take risks for peace. Today the United States has re-energized its vast and productive economy, and that will help to make Israel more prosperous. And today the United States has stopped wringing its hands apologetically and once again begun to play its rightful role in the world with faith, confidence, and courage. And that means Israel can depend on us. We who are friends of Israel may differ over tactics, but our goal remains always unchanged. Permanent security for the people of that brave state. In this great enterprise the United States and Israel stand forever united. And as we approach the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah, let us pray that the new year will be Hashanah Tuva Omatukah, a good and sweet year for both America and Israel. For make no mistake, in a world where so many are hostile to freedom, where millions live in poverty and oppression, those few nations who share the light of liberty must stand together. If we do not, we take the awful chance that the darkness will overwhelm us one by one. But standing together we can pierce the darkness and shed our light over all the earth. Thank you. God bless you all. Ladies and gentlemen, the President has a full schedule today, and I want to take a moment merely on your behalf to express to him how heartened we are by his eloquent message, and to wish him a good yantif echid. I am told you can sit down.


Llyfrgell taeth am gweinio'r pan hwnnw o'r pwg, mae'n gweinio'r wch yn yw ddweud ar gyfer gweld tuerau meddwl gweinio'r ffordd, wedi'u gwahanol a'r stath, felly yn y rhan fawr. A dyweddol y Llyfrgell pan hwnnw, gallai gawdd yn y d!*FRIM exhibition, mae'r ap yn ygafod. Rwyf am wahanol ar y gwaith, credu i chi i'n meddyddol yn ygafod ac yn dwylaid ac yn fwylaid. Mae'n gweinio ar y pleid. Mae'n ynfenwedig. Rhamsy, a'r Rhamsy'n gweithio i Y Ventus, a'n dwi mlwg, 400,000 ryn o wc yn dweud, ond rwy'n rhoi'n gwneud y gweldiaeth... Rwy'n rhoi'n rhoi'n gweldiaeth yng Nghymru. Rwy'n rhoi'n rhoi yng Nghymru, rydyn ni'n arnynt. Rwy'n rhoi'n rhoi'n rhoi. Is y bonkers ddaw? O'r math yng Nghymru? Rydyn ni'n rhoi 400,000 ryn o wc ymddiol. Rydyn ni'n rhoi'n bonkers. Rydyn ni'n rhoi'n bonkers. That's not doing… ...and he's not lying or messy. So that again makes it bonkers for me. However, the way it will be done is what you've entered will say will be to Rattapay 20 million, 30 million pounds to get a player of visibility into the club and then pay him £150,000 a week or whatever on top of it. So we're getting them for probably cheaper than what they're worth. They get on for better. Mae gwahod ddau fel yna'n gweld hynny, felly mae'n cael rhai ddefnyddio'r sprwp. Rwy'n fath o'r rhaid i'r cyffredig ffrindio, mae'n fath o'r colli a'r cyffredig yn aeth coreio. Mae'n grannu'n cael ble o'r 80 miliwn arleid. Roedd yma'r rhaid i fynd, byddwn i'ch rhoi'r bored a'r boll, gan yw Aron Ramsay o'r 80 miliwn arleid. Rwy'n gallu ni'n bywau i robo'r fath o'r teulu? Dragwnais arleid a'r brwrs arhera'u llwyr, mae'n 28 miliwn. 30 miliwn, Mac, I would say at 28-year-old, I mean we paid £140 million. Well if it was on £150,000 a week, that'd be £31 million. So if you factor in a transfer of £50, which you probably wouldn't go for now. I know that's ridiculous. I don't think he would. £50 million, Aaron Ramsey. We bought the charlison for £50 million. He didn't, we paid 28. But he's 21. Yeah, no, but that's... No, no, that's obviously... Also he's got other people, he must have had other people who would insist the party. Cos they wouldn't have given that event to us. So, yeah, I mean listen, he'll do well for them because he's going into a league which is a little bit slower than the Premier League. He's done very well for Arsenal. He'll give the event to us something a little bit different than what they've got. He'll be breaking from midfield and getting past Van Aldo and getting past Ibalor and people like that. And what is it? Welsh plays? I just love playing with Van Aldo. I've got to have Bale Fee. But think about your vences as well. They've had obviously a tradition of having Welsh players. Yeah, John Charles, didn't he? He and Rush. Rush is really, yeah. There you go. Ramsey following a Welsh thread. I mean it was great that we named two. So this is the first? You know for that. Now, again, he's a very, very good footballer, Ramsey. I'd love him ever because he gets goals from midfield. I'm glad he's made the move, but it's good. It's good to see players sometimes from this Premier League going off into other leagues and branching out a little bit. You know, I think it'll be a great experience for him. And your vences will be getting a player. I watched them the other weekend. They're obviously brilliant in their league. But a lot of them are field players. I can't imagine people like that kid there. Very defensive minded. I mean, I love Benteco. He doesn't play all the time. He's only a young lad. But again, he's passing, passing, passing. They haven't got anybody breaking through. Right, I'll tell you what they'll rank. It'll be made up only. Having Bale at Real Madrid, I can name it, your vences. I mean that says a lot about that, about the Welsh. The talent. You know, the talent that they can draw on. And the experience you'll be getting. Cos your vences now. This season are looking promising. I think next season, if you can go and get a goalie as well, a top class goalkeeper, then I think they could be. They should go and get Jan Oblech. Really, that's what they should get. Try and get him in. Cos then, they'd have to like a mountaining goal. Who could genuinely replace Buffon.


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This is stock number 9J335B. We are here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, your new and used car headquarters. Today, we are checking out this super clean 2018 Buick Encore. This vehicle has the 1.4 liter turbocharged four-cylinder motor which pumps out 138 horsepower. This vehicle has been fully-safetyed and inspected by our service shop has a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and topped off. And this vehicle is 100% ready to go. Winter Berry Red Metallic is the color. We shoot all of our videos in 1080p, 60 frames per second. So if you have HD capabilities on your computer tablet or smartphone device, turn them on right now because it is definitely your best way to ensure the quality and condition of the vehicle before you see it in person. If you want to check out all the photos of this vehicle in the upper right-hand party screen, they link to our website. Click that and check us out there. Continental Contipro Contact 21555R18 tires. With I'd say probably about, I don't know, 50%, 60% of the tread left, maybe 70%. It comes with the painted and polished aluminum rims that are in excellent condition. Didn't see any denser dings in that front fender. The front bumper, excellent condition as well. Has factory fog lights, LED running lights, the hood. I didn't see any denser dings on that. Passenger side front fender is in great shape as well. And this passenger side rim, no scuffs, no scrapes on that. Very nice condition. And as you go down this side of the vehicle, you can see just how clean the body is, how reflective and mirror-like that paint is. We take these HD videos so if you are far away, or even if you're close by and just cannot make the trip down but you're still interested in purchasing the vehicle, you can see the vehicle, hear the vehicle, and have confidence in what you were looking at before you even get here. So then when you do get here, there's absolutely no surprises and you can make a smart buying decision from the comfort of your own home. That's why we offer the Summit Auto Fastpass option in the upper right-hand party of your screen. They link right to our website. Where you can apply for financing, get pre-approved and see a payment quote.  It also has the capitalist fuel fill, which is a really nice feature if you've never used it. As we come around to the back of the vehicle, you'll notice you get the chrome-tipped exhaust. And that the rear bumper is in excellent condition. I didn't see any dense dings or cracks on that. And the rear gate is in great shape as well. This is an all-wheel drive vehicle. This is a manual raised gate. You can see that the back storage area is in very, very nice condition.  And I believe, don't quote me on this, I think that's a subwoofer back there. What that cord was there. Anyways, you get a sunshade as well. You may want to double check the website for that. It has the LED tail lamps and down the driver's side just as clean as that passenger's side. I didn't see any dents. I didn't see any dings. It's very, very nice and clean. You can see that metal flake in the paint there. Winter berry red. Pretty cool color. Turn those HD capabilities on right now. It is like you're right here. This back rim is in excellent shape as well. No major scuffs or scrapes. And as you go down the rest of the side, very, very clean. It has the keyless entry system blind spot monitoring built-in LED directional signals.  No rips or tears in those seats. Power driver's seat. We have factory floor mats throughout. Auto headlamps and tilt telescopic steering wheel. Power windows, power locks, power mirrors. It's got this cool gray metallic trim on the doors and dash. And as you hop inside the vehicle here, you can see that this one has 15,994 miles. Instrument cluster is very nice and clean. It does have a compass display. You get the leather wrapped steering wheel, Bluetooth and audio controls on the right. Cruise controls on the left. It also has, I believe it's the GMC IntelliLink system. M, FM and Series XM radio capabilities as well as a backup camera there. And not sure, but yes, you can do projection, which means it has Android Auto and Apple CarPlay capabilities. So you can project your cell phone screen to the screen up there. So if you've got a navigation system on your phone, such as Waze or Google Maps, you can project it right to the screen. Pretty cool stuff there. And then your climate controls are right there. Automatic transmission, passenger side format and seat are in excellent condition. No rips or tears on that. Smells extremely clean in this vehicle. I don't think it's ever been smoked in. Map lights up there and you do get on-star capabilities in that rear view mirror. This one also comes with remote start on the key fob there. 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What we want to do is just quickly talk through with Jonathan and how some of the stuff that they've been doing with MOOCs. So Jonathan, just to give us a bit of context with what you've been doing, when did it start? How's it going now? OK, so I think it's important to set out the outset that I don't do a MOOC and never have. And so that's going great. But my background is a photographer. And it's important just to contextualize everything that I've done. My background isn't as an academic or a teacher. It is as a photographer. And I was a fairly successful one in as much as I was living solely by making images and by selling photographs to newspapers and magazines and so on. But over the course of the 15 years that I did that, the business model changed and gradually became fairly broken. And there was a point at which I realized that, in fact, photography was going through a kind of a paradigm shift. And my business model had relied on photographs and paper and a scarce product being sold at a high price. But now I made images. And images are abundant. They can be reproduced at no cost and shipped at no cost. And so my business model had to change. I mean, I've come to recognize this in retrospect now. But that was a really important moment, understanding that, in fact, the photograph does one thing. It's fixed in time. And it's location-specific. Whereas the image, the image is abundant and it's distributed. And it can connect you to other people. And so in 2008, a friend of mine asked me to write some classes for a new course, a new university photography course. And I said, I would do it. But I couldn't write the same classes that I'd learnt as a student, because they'd been written in the 70s or whatever. And it would be entirely disingenuous to hold up these famous people that I'd photographed that represented a business model that changed completely and then to try and sell that. So I said, yeah, I'll write the classes. But it has to address these issues. It has to address the fact that it's unclear as to what a 21st century photographer is when everyone has a camera and the means to publish. What is it that makes a professional different? And so that was the basis for writing the classes. Now, I had to learn how to teach pretty quickly. And I had to learn what to teach pretty quickly. And so it made sense to stick the class on a blog, to ask the big difficult questions publicly, and then seek out answers from whoever had them. I mean, for instance, this idea about rethinking your product, that's what I had to do as a photographer. What was my product when it couldn't be photographs anymore? When I made images now. That was something that the science fiction writer Corey Dottoro helped me to come to an understanding of. When he shared his business model, one of his business models, he was giving away e-books, e-versions of his book for free, and still selling hard copy books as well. And he was making a healthy living at this. And he shared that idea of versioning out what we do, rethinking what we do with me. And I trialled it as a photographer. And it was quite successful. So we unpicked things like that in the classes. That was the beginnings of a class called Picturing the Body, known as PickBod now by its Twitter hashtag. And it was something we went on to develop and explore even further in another class called Photography and Narrative, which is known now by its hashtag, which is phonar. Just to summarize, you took your experiences as a photographer where the business model was about allowing more openness to what you were doing as a photographer, gave you greater reach and greater impact, and to mirror that in an education setting. Yes, absolutely. Yes, that was it. So what I did was I realized that the images would connect me to people using the internet, enable me to use the image to connect to people who I could reach. It was a very discerning way of reaching people who would be most interested in other versions of my product. And so I could use the image to reach out to distributed geeks, let's say, who would then come to me to buy this other version of the product. Let's say the print, for instance. So a super fan of Heath Ledger, would come to me to buy another version of the product. They'd buy the signed print. So yes, that was something that enabled me to do. Now coming to teaching, when I put it on the blog, the first thing that people said was, if you give this away for free, then no one's going to buy it. And I had to then say, but this is similar to my photography, my journey as a photographer. In fact, the product isn't the knowledge. You can give that away for free. The product is the learning experience. And what giving away the knowledge does, if you will, is it connects all those people. And you have this sort of very networked experience with a huge amount of added value and added opportunities for the people who bought the version which is to sit in the room, the premium version. So just when thinking about what you've got, a version of what you want to achieve, in terms of the teaching design, what was your starting point with? Was the University of VLE ever in the picture? Or was it you wanted to start clean piece of paper from scratch? And how did you get from that to where you are now? Well, I realized very quickly that any barrier to entry would stop most people engaging. Then there are a number of barriers to entry. One was so with regard to the University VLE. One was that you had to pay £27,000 to get access to that. So that narrowed down the class quite quickly and substantially to whatever it is, 40, 17-year-olds or 40, 18-year-olds in the room. So that really wasn't appropriate. And similarly, every time I considered a space or a different way of teaching or speaking, I have to think, is this going to be a barrier to entry? So it's not using academic language a lot of the time. So that anyone can engage with it, not using discipline-specific language so that people could engage with it. Using a blog that people didn't have to sign up to to engage with, that was important so that people would drop by and drop in. And of course, there were other reasons as well for using. I was using Blogger at the time. That's the first one I did. I had no money. Had no money at all, no resources. And so everything had to be free. But what this meant, and I've realized this afterwards, one of the strengths was that I had no money. I couldn't afford to build an entirely new network. I had to go to the networks that were already established. And those networks happened to be really well populated. And so it meant going to Twitter, going to Flickr, going to Vimeo, going to SoundCloud, all those spaces where the fish were already swimming, as it were, and go in there and say, who's interested in this class? Who's interested in this subject area? Rather than having them to change their existing social media behaviors in order to do something entirely different, I mean, that's, I've come to understand now, that's largely unsustainable. Don't build a new version of Facebook at university. Use Facebook. It's really good at being Facebook. So with these spaces as a photographer, were you already present on Flickr, present on Vimeo? Were any of these new spaces for you? It was all new spaces. I hadn't even, I'd never had a blog. I had to learn from scratch. And so I go back now, and I was quite open about it. I didn't know how to teach. I needed to learn as quickly as possible. I asked for help. I didn't know how to, I didn't know what to teach. There were no answers. The book's not been written yet on what it is to be a 21st century visual storyteller. So if you go back to that first, it is one blog post for the entire course. The entire course just gets, the entire post is longer and longer and longer, with the comments just getting longer and longer. It's acutely embarrassing. But then that's just the nature of learning openly. It is, people have been nothing but forgiving to me. Every time I've asked for help, people have come out and helped. No one's ever said, well, that's rubbish what you did there. People have always been very generous and always sort of helped. Sitting next to Alan Avine, who continues to help me constantly. And I hope I feed back to him. The point was, no, I'd never blogged. I'd never used any of these spaces before. So I came as a learner. I came as a peer learner. And I learned from my students who were using these spaces and they could tell me how to navigate them. I mean, that wasn't actually a bad thing in itself. Yeah, it's probably at this point we're pulling in Alan. So around 2008, 2009, was that when DS106 started? Actually, it was 2010. 2010, right. So that was Jim Grimm's creation at University of Mary Washington. I had an interest in this idea of digital storytelling. I went to a conference first on it in the 90s when it was really a film-based being popularized very well by the Center for Digital Storytelling. A lot about personal narrative and people learning how to craft a story and then present it in digital form. And so I was always interested because I've long had an interest in the platform of the web as means of expression and publishing. And the idea that a story on the web was innately different from a story in sound or in video because of the affordances of the web to link to cross-media. There's people like Henry Jenkins who've been researching the idea of trans-media storytelling. And Jim Grimm took this course at the University of Mary Washington. It is on the books as a computer science class as digital storytelling. It had been taught in a classroom by a teacher with lectures in a book and students doing video. And when Jim took it on in January of 2010, he had this idea of putting the students in the web to do their work but also with the idea of importance of this notion about students learning to be able to create their own digital space. So they would have to register web domains, not use anything the university provided and learn not only the things about publishing their work but also what it took to install WordPress, to manage things, to have control over that digital space. And I was interested, among other people, I followed what they were doing because the students were publishing their work in the open. Jim was publishing his class in the open and you could be part of it as an observer. And that was very interesting. And then in October of 2010, someone asked him, and this was in the context of the first MOOC, the CCK08 that George Siemens and Stevens founded, the idea about having a network that participate in the course. So we were aware and influenced by that but the idea of DS106 in January 2010 being something that people not registered in the course could participate in, they would set up their own blogs and have their content feed into the central course. And the parallel is I think that are very important and why I got very interested in what Jonathan was doing. Different sort of approaches to platforms but similar in the idea that the students who paid for the class and had the classroom experience, you weren't trying to replicate that same experience for the open participants. And at the same time what the open participants did was not the same as the students were doing but there was somewhat of an overlap. So you benefit by having people from the outside participate, react, communicate, maybe even collaborate with these students but they definitely had a different experience. And to me that's what makes what we're doing not really the MOOC-like thing where you're trying to have everybody go through and get the same carbon copy experience. Something that's quite interesting that's kind of a thread between these is the literacies that people are developing as they go along. So Jonathan you were picking this, you were learning as you were going along and I imagine a lot of your students are learning as they're going along. It's a course after all they should be learning that they're learning about the kind of digital presence being online, publishing stuff online. Is that all kind of integrated into the course in terms of support? In terms of support, it's kind of fundamental and it's grown to be fundamental. We've talked about digital photography for years but we haven't actually thought about what that means. We've always talked about what it does. It means a digital camera but to actually discuss what the image means we've never really done that. And so yes, now the course is much more now about visual literacy and about digital fluency. And so yes, it's about having something to say, being able to say it very clearly but then amongst all the digital noise it's about being heard. And that's the bit about the digital fluency. So is it supported in a sort of academic sense? Yes, it's now part of the fabric of the course. We have to learn how to use these spaces and how to use and navigate through these spaces, these digital spaces. We also sort of think about what it is to be a sort of digital citizen as well. I suppose you get this question quite often. How much of an administration overhead is it to run the course in the way you have? Administration overhead. Okay, so yeah, we should clarify, exactly me opening up by saying I don't run a MOOC. So mine is a regular class which sits within a closed undergraduate course, photography course. It lasts for 10 weeks. But as Alan described, there is a version of the experience that you can have by joining via the blog, submitting your pictures, listening to the lectures. Crucially, one of the crucial things is tweeting your notes. So if people are listening now and I'm not making sense, if you tweet your questions, if we haven't established a hashtag, so I guess maybe you can establish your hashtag afterwards. Because I'm listening in. I'm listening in now just as the contributors are to phonar. After we've recorded a lecture, they listen in very often and they'll actually respond to the notes and the comments that people put as they listen to the lectures. And so I'll do that now. I'll try and answer questions now if people have them. But I have gone and lost my thread. But if I could jump in. I mean, Jonathan downplays his not being an academic, but his intuition is so perfect for this about how people engage. And the idea, the Unmook idea that it's not this box, that's a course, that is an entire experience, that there's this whole cultural and social framework that builds around it, that means human to human connection and the way we interact with each other, which you can't package. You can't plan. You can set up. So in DS106, we don't prescribe, so much the digital classes and learning ends up, like Jonathan describes, focusing on the tools. And it becomes so minute and uninteresting. And the end product. And students come in with, I refer to it as like an assignment mindset. They need to produce something that's polished and that's what they chuck in the box. And what we really want to encourage is to people to sort of share their process and share the thinking behind the media, things that they create and create stuff that's bad. So we have sort of the same philosophy about, we don't come off as teachers into this class as being perfect. So we mess up in public and students see that and they realize, I don't have to be perfect and I can try something new that doesn't have to be perfect and it's okay. And then they get the support of the community around them. So that community building thing. And even this idea, this word, we always talk about building communities. You don't really build communities, they happen. And they don't happen accidentally, they happen in some nexus of place, whether it's a cafe or a park. But they don't always happen where you build your nice shiny course MOOC box. No, and those communities as well have become the probably the most valuable aspect of our entire course. Currently there are still only two open classes within the degree program. But you know, the most people we've had come to one 10 week iteration is over 35,000. Now that's 35, the compound network opportunities from that many people coming to look at your work and listen to the class with you over 10 weeks is phenomenal. And as you say, you can build those, you can put the things in place to help those networks build. But I think that one of the most valuable things that people can now draw from some of the stuff that we've done is to adapt and adopt, adapt or adopt some of the things that we've done because they can make less mistakes. But don't want people to go away thinking that what we do, even though I've sort of described it as learning how to teach and learning what to teach, that it lacks rigor or any sort of sustained academic engagement because it doesn't. I think it is fairly rigorous. And we work really, really hard to make sure that the quality is the very best that we can make it. I mean, I think we should rethink what the product is as an education institution, as educators. I can't see a reason for not teaching this way. It's so valuable. It enriches the learning experience so much. It repositions what we do. And actually, it doesn't actually cost that much at all. It just kind of makes sense. I mean, we're talking about open and connected teaching and learning here. I'm not going to use the word MOOC because mine isn't distance learning on an industrial scale, which is what I see when I see most MOOCs. I think that actually works out to D Laus, I think, if we're going to start. But what I'm saying is that to actually think that the class isn't already connected is a kind of a mistake because the class is connected. The students are all on Facebook. They're all on Twitter. They're all on all those. So the class is connected. The only person at this point who isn't connected is the teacher. And so where's the sense in that? If the teacher just connects to this network, then they can augment and enrich the experience, not only of learning, but actually of teaching as well. I've learned how to teach, and I'm learning how to teach from people that are really into this. And they're really good teachers. It's accelerated how I've learned to do what I do. I don't know, 100 fold, it must be. And so it seems to me that there kind of isn't an option. There isn't an option for photographers anymore. The old business model is broken. The product is very, very different now. If you want to operate as a visual storyteller in the 21st century, then you have to rethink what your skill sets are and what your values are as a supplier. And so I think it's much the same for educators that we have to rethink what we are. And we're in a great position to do this. The bricks and mortar experience is very expensive to run, but it's marvelous. It's great. It's what students want to go to college for. There is no reason why you can't have this virtual version as well, enriching their on-site experience. It really is a win-win, virtuous circle, whatever you want to describe it as. I mean, Jonathan's parallel example of his recognition of how his business model for photography is not adaptable to the way technology and culture are going, MOOCs get expensive largely because of this reliance on high production video. I mean, that's where those big costs are. That's why they're getting into these hundreds of thousands of dollars. There's a lot being put into these high production videos. And that's not really changing much of the methodology of the teaching. That's one of those transference of what is done inside the classroom to going on the web. And if people are sparking up their Twitter tweet decks or whatever they use, if you do a search on the hashtag phonar, then the reason I'm not with you today is because I had to teach my phonar class this morning. And Alan Carney flew over from America just to attend our phonar class in person. That is the only reason I am in the UK, Jonathan. You know that. What's he doing here today? You got it. I'm soaking up the sunshine. And if you do do a search on phonar right now, then you should see the echoes of today's class. So today, we will have listened to an interview that I did this morning with an artist called Sarah Davidman. And with the founder of the Path Charlotte Institute in Bangladesh, which I did last week, he's gone back to Bangladesh. And so you should see echoes of the tweets, the comments, and the discussion there. If you scroll through that, I hope so anyway. But if you tweet now, I have been tweeting. And hopefully, I'm responding to it. And Alan is responding to your comments and questions. That was a bit better. Yeah, that was different. We've asked people to tweet some questions. So we do have some questions. Has anyone got any questions right now that they'd like to ask? There should be. Who's here? There's Nina. Can you guys hear us? Jonathan and? Loud and clear. We're here. Can you hear Jonathan? Can Jonathan hear? He sums that up, but we can't hear you. The problem there. So are there any questions? Stuns, silence. I've got a question. And that is? Sorry. Hi, Jonathan. Adam Warren from Southampton. My question is, does your model only work for particular disciplines? So for example, how would it work with hotel management or surgery or something? I hope that's perhaps a realistic example. Hi, can you hear me? Yeah. You know, that's something that we have been thinking about constantly. That's where the really interesting future of this lies, I think, is pushing it out beyond digital storytelling into other areas. I mean, surgery, no. I think I'd still go with a dentist or a doctor that had attended bricks and mortar institution and had gone through the regular system. But hotel management, I'll be honest, I haven't thought about it. I haven't thought about it. So asking me to do it on the fly, I'm probably going to do a bad job of it. I have begun to think about how it might apply to a maths course, or an English literature course, or an English language course, or perhaps even a science course. Then I think that's really interesting where you start to push out into the audience stroke community that are attending the class and ask questions of them as both a learner and as both a teacher and a learner. So the short answer is, I think it's absolutely not only applicable to photography. If we just started this out, I think if we just started out wanting to write an open and connected class, I don't think we would have started with photography. We might have looked at a storytelling class, but I don't think we'd have started with photography. So yeah, I think there are lots of things that other people can adapt and adopt, and I hope they do. Does that answer that question, or is that just a riff? No, that's fine. We have a question via Twitter, and that was, who owns the content? So is it you, or is it the students? Yes, I tried to answer that. Or I tried to answer one question. So well, I'm very clear about this. I write the course. Everything that I write is licensed to CCBY, so that it's there specifically to be adapted and adopted. But over the course of the class and each iteration, the students feed in, other lecturers chip in, and it moves beyond anything that I originally authored. And so who owns it? And I guess we all own it. Is there another question that's buried within that ownership question? One of wanting, who, if you own it, do you get to sell it or something like that? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's Helena Gillespie. I guess that's my question. There is something probably hidden within there is, I guess I'm asking you, there've been any problems about that, because my campus-based students, we do various things, and they're blogging at the moment. And one of the things that they're getting concerned about is who's going to read their blog and what I'm going to do with it? And I think it's partly unfamiliar, these are first years, unfamiliarity with the medium that's making them nervous. But because there is this kind of hype in the media about young people and digital content and digital identities and, you know, somebody out there on the internet is watching them. I just wondered whether those two things had come up against each other in kind of unhelpful ways or whether students feel comfortable in sharing and sharing ownership of materials in the same way that you and I might do as educators. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does make sense, yes. Yeah, there definitely isn't a silver bullet answer, and I think one has to take each case by case. Some students really are reluctant to share stuff, and you can always make blogs closed or they can choose to not blog, if that's the case. But, you know, on this idea of navigating these online social spaces, if we will, you know, what better place to learn about that than at school with a teacher? You know, I want my kids to learn this as a part of their learning experience. You know, this was my point about, which I made really badly, about people saying they teach digital photography where they're not teaching about making photographs in the image in digital spaces. I see it as part of my job, my role, to take them by the hand and take them through these digital spaces, to show them what is or isn't appropriate to share, to discuss in a safe, relatively safe environment why perhaps it isn't appropriate to share that in this space, or how to deal with that very, very negative response that you received through that work, or the attack that I got in the press. We had one class where the students became very territorial when someone wrote an article that was critical of me, and I said, you know what, this is, you can choose to jump on the comments section and start attacking these people back, or someone gave me some great advice though some time ago, and they said, if you are attacked, are there only two things that you do? One of them is that you completely ignore this person. You do not shine your spotlight on them. Or the other thing is that you befriend them and you are completely nice to them. Now, I passed that lesson on because it was really valuable to me to learn that. I was really struggling to cope with the attacks that I was receiving. And it turned into a really valuable lesson for the students. So, we wouldn't have had that had I not been criticised publicly and had the students not been in that social space. Okay, thank you very much. So, are there any more questions before we close? No, okay, lovely. Okay, well, thank you very much. That was really innovative, thank you.


Good afternoon hardware fans and welcome back to beautiful Denver, Colorado. My name is Savannah Peterson, joined with John Furrier here for our four days of coverage of Supercomputing 2023. John, what's the coolest thing you've seen the last three days? I think I love the GPU that Nvidia has, that's pretty hot. I love the Ethernet conversations we're having, faster Ethernet. And I just like the whole cloud vibe coming in to the semiconductor boom and just this whole smashing of the middle innovation era between semiconductors and cloud computing and the renaissance of the data center. On-premise and edge is going to be exploited with net new use cases and AI is absolutely shining a light on it and that's to me the coolest thing is the reality of AI is having an impact. Totally agree, we're kind of at the epicenter of the nerd Venn diagram of everything that's cool and I'm really excited to welcome our two next guests to the show from HPE. Joseph and Andrew, thank you so much for being here. Joseph, when we were just chatting you said you've been to roughly 14 super companies. Approximately, yes. It's casual, not that anyone's counting. Of course, of course. How is the show going for you? It's fantastic, honestly when you asked John what's the coolest thing he saw at Supercomputing, I was surprised I wasn't on the list. That was last night, that was not at Supercomputing. Yeah, that's right. But you know, that was in the cloud. This show is amazing this year, it's a great present, the feel, the people, the technologies, there's just so much great stuff happening at this show. So much positive energy. Andrew, would you agree from the lab side? Absolutely, I think John hit on just a lot of those fantastic things that are all coming together and showcased here on the floor. Every year, it's just like, it's hard to imagine that much advancement has happened year over year. That's the thing that always strikes me. I'm so glad that you said that. We were at Supercomputing together last year. Conversation was much more focused on quantum. Little bit, and obviously performance cost optimization, always a hot topic. Sustainability as well, but we are all things all AI, all chaos, and everyone's looking for the right partners and the right players. Top 500, green 500, Joseph, what are those titles? Yeah, we're very proud to say, I'm just going to say that we're very proud that. Own it. Yeah, the top five spots, like we have number one, number two, and number five, number one, number five are with our partner AMD. Number two is with Intel. And on the top, the green 500, four of the top five are HPE systems. Like, come on. That's those shoulders. Thank you, thank you very much. How is it that we're not, I'm not the coolest, John. You guys are cool. We always love- We just hadn't had this conversation yet. He'll re-toggle the list after this. That's right, yes. We can do it in edit. The thing about HPE as I worked in nine years back in the heyday, you know, super computer started when I graduated college in 1988. And I remember that my early days at HPE, pre-HPE, it was all about the processors. And then how can I get faster IO, adapter cards. Now that we're back to the systems mindset. You mentioned systems. The theme to me is, this is a systems mindset. The developers have to have it. The infrastructure platform engineering's emerging and changing. So how do you stand up AI stuff? Hardware, systems, clouds, edge. This is kind of the new architecture. Kind of the same game, but different stuff. But it's still the same stuff. Networking storage, servers, processors. What's the new picture look like? Yeah, I think it's great observation.  Especially with, you know, everything around generative AI this year. I think the thing that is really kind of resonating hit everyone that how it is becoming super computing problem when you're doing AI at scale. And so naturally, you know, we think we're pretty good at that, just like Joseph was mentioning. So yeah, just a lot of those advancements at that system level, all coming to bear, not only for traditional HVC, but as we further integrate, you know, AI and analytics as part of that, we're really seeing that convergence come together. And if I can add, if I can add, I think a lot of the challenges that we've helped our customers address with super computing, some of the same concerns are starting to pop up now as they're looking at artificial intelligence. The good news is a lot of these aren't new challenges. Some of them are, but a lot of them are not. And we know how to manage them at scale. And I think that's what really matters.  I remember covering the storage. Storage became at the three prior opposition. Then you got the servers continuing to be the servers. You always had great servers. But the thing now is with AI, it's like, okay, you got these models now that are going to be the abstraction layer between the new interface. The new interface is going to look a lot more like what people want now is a chat GPT open AI, just shut down their new registrations because they have to develop a day there's so much demand and capacity. That's a whole green conversation. But that's the expectation of the user, that interface. So now you get large language models foundational models in between that. So the question is, is like, how do you manage the data? Right, so now it's like, okay, data management's upside down. But if you've got large language model, you want to have breadth and to your high HPC problems here. Problem statement is that there's also precision for personalization. So you have the large broad swath of data and then getting precision super fast is what we're looking at with AI. That's kind of like the HPC meets AI problem. It absolutely is that convergence and in fact, there's an entire progression, if you will, on this journey for, well, okay, if I'm going to do something like a large language model, I have to produce that model, right? And so there's a certain system, certain data management, certain development platform that goes along with doing that training. And then you have another phase that may be the personalized tuning. Maybe it's language specific or geo-specific. And then ultimately putting that model to use, the inference part requires, right, it has its own system architecture and requirements. That's the great thing about HP as a company is that we're working across the breadth of that entire training, tuning, inference progression. My favorite quote yesterday, Savannah, I want to get their reaction here is from these guys is that on theCUBE, the CEO of GROC who's got the new, amazing LPU chip. They had a great llama out there yesterday, too. The llama was phenomenal. The llama's also been a star of the show this week. They're going to get a swag award, but it's not exactly swag, it's more of a marketing. It was an annual llama. Someone's going to win the llama, man. They're going to win the llama. The people who are watching, there was an actual llama. So the CEO who invented TPUs from Google on his 20% time, changed the game on, as we know, AlphaGo, that whole project that he did. That, what he said to me on theCUBE here, he said, training's cost center. Inference is value extraction. Correct. On stage at KubeCon last week, Tim Hawken, Google engineer, CUBE alumni said, inference is the new web app. Okay, so digest that. What do you guys, what's your reaction to those statements? Do you agree? If so, what's that look like in the future? What's that, what's that, what does that turn into? Yeah, look, I think the short answer is if you look at how sophisticated the models are becoming, especially those foundation models, it's costing more and more to produce those, got to ingest more data because it makes the models better. That's where you get to a supercomputing class solution in order to do that training. But then it's all about, like you said, the deployment side of things. And if you're spending all that money deploying that model, you want to be able to deploy it in as many environments as possible. Edge, cloud, on-prem, you name it. It's universal, that user experience is something that we've been talking about a lot. Obviously something that matters a lot to you guys. And you've got a lot of different instances across verticals in which people are building and doing things. I'm curious since you sit at the forefront and you get to talk to the coolest players, I mean, let's just be honest about that. What are some of the, are there any industries that you feel like are really pulling ahead or embracing AI and this increased processing better? Are there, like what are the trends? Give us the trend report. Joseph, I see you got it. Yeah, I'll start and Andrew, please chime in. I don't know who's ahead or who's, like really, but here's what I have seen. I think we're all still kind of like in a Mario Kart race. I think we're still alive, we're still trying to figure out all of this. Yeah, there'll be a banana popping up out of nowhere. Right. Yeah. I haven't seen that. Bottle that banana. Right. There's a metaphor there somewhere, we'll get there. But I'll say like in the healthcare industry, happening at the edge, right? That's really important, right? There are emergency rooms, there are doctors that are working on, looking at x-rays and all sorts of tests that need answers for patients right now. Don't have a week, don't have a month to go, send it all, get it all, analyze stuff. So having that right then and there, critical. Manufacturers who compete with each other have to manufacture products that are high quality, that are made in the needs of the customer base, as fast as possible. So what I'm finding just generally is when it comes to industries, they're trying to get to the rightest answer as fast as possible. And that's not just to compete, but to serve patients and for financial markets and things like that. So I think industry is looking at artificial intelligence less about a robotic thing that's sitting back in a data center or a co-location center somewhere. But more of how can I serve my end customer faster, solve a problem, get somebody healthier? That's what I'm seeing a whole lot of right now. The rightest questions, I'm going to use that term from now. I know I love that. You have to emphasize the rightest answer. You have the emphasis definitely on the right syllable there. Andrew, what about you over there on the trend side? Yeah, look, I think the answer is we're just seeing it be, it's deployed across every vertical. There's no one area that I would say is, greatly stands out more than another. I think, yeah, the healthcare, the finance, obviously the scientific community and what's happening there as a rich history in applying the latest concepts and techniques. I would say even some of our systems on the top 500, you look at the amazing work that's been done on that. General Electric on the frontier system that we deployed at Oak Ridge. They had something here this week talking about the advancements in studying wind turbulence, for example.  I think that's the thing to take away is the application of AI like that is, that'll be the next big story even next year coming into this event to see those amazing breakthroughs that have happened. Andrew and I are on stage next year with you guys. We'll have this discussion. What has, I mean, just imagine a year from now. I'm really excited just to think about it honestly. Yeah, just think about it. Think of all the advancement, the technology, but then applications and all these industries, what we're going to see people make amazing happen out of AI, it's going to be amazing. I think it's a great point. I think the innovation of these new, net new workloads are going to come out. You're going to see some low-hanging fruit. I got some data laying around. Let's turn that into exhaustion to gold, classic big data, cliche, that'll happen, check. And then, wow, I got other data opportunities either that are going to be generated and or I could focus on. So I think it's going to be what we don't see now. That's right. That's going to come back. So I got to ask you because you guys are kind of set up as we talked about last night when we saw each other. Green Lake's been out for a while, okay? That's cloud-based. That's pre-hype, chat GPT kind of awakening around the world. How has that changed your game? Because one, the tech innovation is coming with AI, but also the education on the market side. How has that impacted the traction, the product and whatnot? Give us the update. Yeah, I'll say right now, I think there is an intelligence among the user base right now that says, okay, we understand what cloud can offer. I think three years ago when you and I talked about this, it was moving what you've got here and moving it somewhere else. And I think the market, all of us realize that's not really what cloud is. We realize that you can have a cloud management model that's happening on the edge. We know you can have a cloud management model that's happening in your data center. We know we can have a cloud management model that's in co-location data centers. And we know we can have cloud management through the Piper Scalers in the public cloud. What I have found with customers is they're having a deeper conversation, a longer investigation into what they do. Where is their data? What are they doing with it? How much access do they need it? How much is it going to change over the next year? How much do they anticipate that change coming? And then they are figuring out where these things need to reside. So I feel like there is a strong intelligence that is emerging among our community. And I'll say, just coming to super computing, there's a lot of users here. This is the conversation I'm hearing from them. This is a very smart audience that's here that's seeing the same things that we're seeing. It's not that you got lucky because GreenLake was very well thought out by Antonia of the Vision. It was a company bet by HPE. Early, yes. Early, and it was a business model shift as well as technology. Okay, now fast forward a few years, okay? You're going to have essentially large-scale change coming on the tech side. And productivity and personalization come up as two hot areas, always on the queue. Better personalization, precision from a broad set of data, but then also that other aspect of it. How do you get that focus and precision and personalization? Do you want to start? Yeah, so it goes back a little bit to that model. I started earlier around that tuning piece of it. So the idea, even in a cloud or hybrid model, is eventually there's going to be some layer of data that maybe you own and you need to do that fine-level tuning and personalization with your own data. And so that's where the whole data management comes back into play as well as the platforms that enable that. Productivity, your vision on productivity. Skyrocketing, we're already seeing elements of it now. Oh yeah, yeah. I think before that, I think you're going to see our markets, all these customers, healthcare, manufacturing, finance, et cetera. They're all going to see the opportunity that artificial intelligence brings them. And then you're going to start seeing some major innovations, each of these industries where we're doing things better and different and faster. I think that's the innovation you're going to see first. Better, faster, stronger. I mean, it feels like it could be a Daft Punk song if we're not careful here. It might already be, I don't know, yeah. You know, maybe that's a great idea. We should talk to them about that. That's right, let's talk about it. I think we should definitely talk to them about that. Joseph, while we were chatting, you mentioned that you have a 15-year-old son, Elijah, who is a Rubik's Cube master, a speed solver. I look forward to having him on the show. Since you have a pulse check with the teams, what's the buzz like? I'm giving you a lot of credit. That's quite a stretch, yeah. I don't know that I even have it with my son. Inference, right? Isn't that just an example of inference? That's right, exact. It's not a hallucination. Yeah, no, it's not a hallucination. It's just a little inference. Wow, we could really get the AI box going. What are our teenagers talking about AI? What are your conversations, like with your son and his friends? So I will say for both my kids, what I've found is they have learned to program in R and Python, and it's not a big deal. Like, I found out almost accidentally. Absolutely, as one does. Because when I was in engineering school, and we were doing C++ and Java, that's like, we would talk about it. Yeah, we just wrote this program, et cetera. I accidentally stumbled into knowing that both my kids know how to program in these things, and it's not, what's interesting is it's not like a tool to go get a job. It is, like with my daughter in college, she was like, I'm in a statistics class. And so I wrote this- This is so cool, like it's second nature. Yeah, I wrote this R program to kind of help figure this out, and I had to say, hold on, time out. You did what? You wrote an R program? She's like, yeah, no big deal. Wrote an R program. So I think it's an extension of what we just talked about. Artificial intelligence is a way to actually solve these things, and we are giving creative tools to this next generation to say, this is the R tool, go build amazing. And I think we're starting to see that. I love that, go build amazing. Because that creative class coming to tech is going to be off the charts. Just solving problem, jumping in the barriers to get going versus setting things up. What's the skill development? You get the first three shots out of the gate from AI that you can potentially reiterate, and as it gets faster, with chips and systems. And I've got a couple of boys as well going the college age, and we have this conversation all the time about, because working in the labs environment, we're working on, hey, you know, kind of what's next, even. Yeah. And we've got a great, it's an adapted quote from a colleague, one of our researchers, talks about, well, you know, AI is not going to replace that scientist, or that teacher, or that publisher, but the flip side of that, the teacher, scientist, teacher that uses AI, will replace those that don't. So that's the thing, embrace it, use it. It's a tool, you know, let's not get too carried away. We had a quote on theCUBE a couple of months ago, that said, AI scales intellect. If you have data in your head, too. Absolutely. So again, that's the creative plus what's available. And so we're going to get back down to the real time. So in this new model, you've got interface, model, foundation model layer, and then infrastructure just self-forming. So it's going to be a whole new infrastructure system? Yeah, what we need this market to be, the customer set is just to, don't be so worried about what's the tech. We're working on it. We're doing amazing things. That's your job. Yeah, we're doing some great things. But think big on like, how do we see more patients and how do we get them healthier faster? That's the problem, right? How do we actually make sure that financial transactions are secure? Those are the things we need. And I think we're now setting up a set of tools for these great minds to go and say, I see these big humanity problems and here's how we're going to go and solve them. And a great example of that. I want to plug our group just a little bit on this. We'll allow it. You've been nice to us. So we'll allow those. Getting back to one of those areas where AI is going to make a difference, right? So we're working on two projects in partnership with the Department of Energy, related to applying AI on fusion related, right? So we know our generation, our kids generation, right? Energy efficiency, sustainability, it's a huge topic. And so these are groundbreaking type work that we're involved in. It is. And you can tell just how excited and passionate you both are. Thank you for sharing your insights with us. We can't wait for this to be the most watched segment from Supercomputing 2023. I think it will be. I have a feeling. Shout out to Elijah. I'm looking forward to him fixing my earrings. Yes. And I just want to give you guys- That's all he's going to fixate on when he watches. That's not solved. I know. I'm sorry for those of us who are a little more OCD or worried about balance in nature. I also want to give you guys both a shout out. I'm not sure what the very loud noise is that's going on right now. Are we in danger? But you have managed. I've been wondering, it sounds like there's a fire alarm. I'm not sure what's going on. There's always a lot of exciting stuff going on the floor. John seems very calm, so I was kind of feeding off. But I just, I hear you are dropping a serious knowledge on the audience, dealing with that hats off to you. John, always a pleasure to co-host with you. Naturally, that's when the beeping stops. Of course. We have you for tuning in to this thrilling episode of The Cube here alive in Denver, Colorado at Supercomputing 2023. I'm Savannah Peterson. You're watching The Cube, the leading source for emerging tech news.


Okay. Okay. It's recording now. So let me share my screen. Is it sharing? Oh, yeah. Not yet. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Alrighty. So. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Jenkins advocacy and outreach. SIG. Today is January 12th. And on the agenda, I have some go, we're going to go over some action items. CDF their year in review. Go over some events.  And lastly, we'll save the last part of this meeting. For GSOC planning discussions. Okay. So. Yeah. Thank you. Is that sound good? And is there anything else that we should add? Don't forget the first point of the agenda. Yes. Yes. Okay. Then. So important part. Happy new year. Happy 2023. Wishing everybody good health. Yeah. Peace and happiness. So sending the same to the people. Let me enlarge this a little bit. How about. Here. Okay. Yeah. Good. Good. Good. So action items. So I've created and communicated out the planning document for. Fostum. Thank you, Bruno, for adding that. You're welcome. And. So John Mark, if you're planning, I know you're planning to attend. So. Whenever you're ready, please feel free to add your name to it. Yep. And then Jenkins 2022 recap. That is going to be published pretty soon, right, Bruno? Maybe today or later today or maybe tomorrow. Okay. And that's quite an adventure. I never imagined it would take so much time and back and forth between people, but that would be a jewel. I think. Recap. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. This, it's, it's a big document. So. You know, we just need a lot of tweaking. But which is good, which is fine. We're getting there. It means that it's a rich, a rich. Rich report with a lot of things. For sure. For sure. And I think we all should be proud of what's, what has been accomplished. And a little shame that we didn't write it sooner. Sorry about that. The Mark weight shame factor there. Bruno, you did a great job creating that thing. And here we are now revising it in massive ways. Yeah. I should have written it first. So you could have had it easier. But hey, Yeah. I just created the canvas and then everybody put something at it will be, you know, we were talking about pizza earlier. And this will be a fantastic recipe of pizza. I guess with all the different ingredients, which are in. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay. So the next topic is CDF year in review blog post. They have initiated a, they're 2022 year in year in review post. So basically it's, it's an update that they asked for three bullet updates from each of the projects under CDF.  So I submitted my six bullets. And yes, I don't know how to read numbers, but that's okay. I don't know how much I sport, but I'm just keeping with six. But basically, yeah. So the, the ordering, if they demand three. Yeah. I purple, go ahead. I'm sorry, when we get to that, you continue. I should stop interrupting. Okay. So I provided, let me see highlights to the modernization of the UI UX. The modernization of the platform. The Lincoln's election. Okay. Yeah. And our involvement in the projects like she code Africa. She saw October fast. And I also included our pull request numbers, how many pull requests, just, just to give some little data. And the number of new contributors for October fast. And I also included a link to our blog post, just in case, you know, somebody wants to full story. Yeah, I just would change the order slightly I think Jenkins elections was lower on the interest level for others and outreach efforts she called Africa G Sock and October fest are very high right because CDF is about building communities and about fostering community and this is those are a good example of successful efforts to build and create community and to bring people in who may not have pre who were not previously involved. Okay, so then, would you say that would be like right below the modernization. I would put it as modernize the UI number one, absolutely modernize the platform, absolutely number two, and then advocacy was number three. Then the other things in the six in the list is very fair and I think we are the 800 pound gorilla in the CDF, therefore, it's perfectly okay that we offer six and they say no you have to limit it to three. I'm pretty sure we, we get the top the three that at least now I'm open to john mark and Bruno, do you're, what do you have a different opinion in terms of priorities. No, no, I second your, your, your, your ranking, your ranking, the UX improvement is a very big win, as well as on the platform. Well, we can also be proud of the, the work done on the outreach and advocacy action GSOC she code Africa in October fest these kind of events. So I second your choice. If is that the right word to say, it is.  I'm not sure you consider that a compliment but you sounded no way. Learning. Okay, great. Thank you for that. I have time to get that fixed so before it go they publish it so. I think six six was I think you were right to give him six right we, we are the largest and, and we have the most stories to tell, because we're the largest so they, they should consider giving Jenkins more, more space just because there's a bigger story to tell in a bigger community. Other communities are still growing their, their, their nurturing them they're developing them. And that's huge, right, not as big as Jenkins but it's huge. But there are plenty of small communities that they're nurturing at Persia is a small one that they're nurturing and growing and it's growing rapidly that's great. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and they didn't say anything that you know hey you gave me too much so I'm just going to leave it alone. Right. Yeah they didn't come back to you saying do you not know how to read or is it a failure to count. So, I think we're good. Also, I'll update accordingly on the priority of our list. Okay, moving on. For events we have fast that's coming up at foster and scale. So foster is coming up. And of four in a couple of weeks. So I have created like I mentioned earlier the planning doc for it. The only thing that I still need which I discussed with your mark yesterday is that I need guidance on where do we think we want to have the Jenkins and friends dinner, and on what day. Previously, it's you know we have our usual location and evening Friday evening. But I think John Mark mentioned that there might be something better outside of the square that might be easier for people to get to. So John Mark will talk to Damian and then we'll get that filled out. Yes, for the date we will, we will keep the Saturday night. Saturday or Friday. Saturday. Oh, Saturday. Okay. Yes, because Friday I fear that a lot of people are still traveling. And will come late. Now I, we should discuss it. At least I know the couple of colleagues. So my personal vote is to organize it Saturday, knowing that Bruno and I will have a conflict there. So I just talked to Damian about it earlier today and so that's perfect John Mark that you and Damian are coordinating and I think you own. I propose that the two of you own that one you find the best time for it and just just notify people so that we encourage others to who are at FOS them to join. Yeah. Okay, I have a one to one with Damian tomorrow morning. So I'll raise that point with him and that we take that on time so that Alyssa is also able to include that information in the general information about for them and also to publish that. Thank you so much. And then I also put it here that you and possibly Bruno will be attending the G stock gathering at foster. I was going through their website and I couldn't find the link to that. I don't know that there was a discussion on it. It's a male. That's what I thought. Yeah, okay, it's on the on the main g-soc list. Okay, then I will gather information and update it here. Yeah. So we'll hold. So two things is I definitely want to network with the g-soc crowd that will be present at FOS them. I think that the Google people will be wearing their pen and the g-soc flag and so I'll wear my captain's hat so normally I should also be recognizable. They will not have a booth during it but I will try to connect with as many people as we can and attend their their event there. I might also and I strongly promote the idea do some some talks or or a bird of a feather related to g-soc at Jenkins or or no yes g-soc at Jenkins. So our experience with it answering questions to mentors or or participants and also sharing advice experience with other organization that wants to to participate to do to g-soc so we'll see how that works best practices besides all the other communication networking and things that will do. Yes. Okay. And then I know Bruno has a birds of a feather on the table as well so thank you for adding that to the document. So we'll just refer to that. Yeah, to forget to put it on the first them document. Yeah. Moving on. Are we good with FOS them. Yep. Okay. So scale 20 acts that's in March 2023 we do have a booth. I have not started planning because the event is later in March so I will start planning in February. I got other things as brewing at the moment. So, and then CD con that is going to be in May. So over Canada the CFP is currently open and they will close on February 10. I am on their review committee. So, if you are interested in speaking I know mark is going to be making submission. And so, and, you know, make your submission on time and then they are accepting early submission so they're hoping to like publish the agenda. Probably end of January. So they may have early submission is also available until January 17th if I'm not mistaken. I need to have a chat with you about with a mark with you about that. Yep. Any questions comments topic with CD con. Yes. Yeah, I'm assuming. I'm assuming that. Well, yeah, let's talk separate about it john mark because I suspect international travel right now. Yeah, let's talk. So, I don't, I fear it's not worth the hassle to propose. Yeah, right. A talk there. Yeah, but I talked to you offline. And then DevOps world. So the CFP committee is forming for the entire conference we're scheduled to be meeting next week. I am responsible for the Jenkins slash community track I don't know how many track they're giving us this year so usually it's want to track so. It really depends on how many days that they're going to do this. So they're still shopping for the location and the date. We'll find out more soon, but I will be reaching out to the community to to to solicit for volunteers to join me in a subcommittee. What that will entail is basically reviewing the submissions for Jenkins slash community. You know, grading the submission scoring it pick and choose lay out the lay of the land or the conference for our tracks. So that is forthcoming. Okay. Anything else, any that we need to cover for DevOps or any questions I can answer. Okay. Okay. Okay, so john mark. Good in time so. Yes. So, yes for, because we have a meeting on that subject. After this one. Yeah, so a quick summary where we're standing. So we, we have met a people that stepped forward to to be mentors. Some we know others that we don't know. So we'll have to get to know each other. There will be activity to present the work of mentor and the responsibilities of a mentors and to be sure that we are all aligned with that giving the tools to get prepared and explain that so mentorship it's, it starts to shape well. Project ideas we have a sufficient number to start with still looking for other project ideas I hear project ideas brewing. But the more we have the better the students contributors will have chance to find something that fits their interest. So, related to the first point will organize mentor round round up alignment orientation webinar on January 19. There's a proposal we're going to settle that during the organ meeting. Just after that. We also plan to do some not publicity but to to share the news and and explain regularly where we standing and now is a good opportunity to write a blog post where we are standing right now. So that we keep the people's interest. I think the next steps will will confirm them during the org admin meeting there so already planned just to be confirmed is the work on mentors work that's plans. Lisa is actively working on that to be sure is application as a mentoring org. So this is important milestone. As soon as the application is confirmed. We will have the kickoff meeting. And so we're going to schedule that already now so there. This is helping me by highlighting the information. So we're going to announce that beginning of February on time and so that we get everybody. aligned in and present there and we will then start the office our mechanism. So weekly meetings to answer questions and clarify doubts and helping students contributors to build a strong application. This is the planning will discuss during the the org admin meeting if we should do the kickoff before we know that we're accepted. I okay I can't there's still some some doubts or or bolts that need to be tightened on this tentative planning here. We're making progress. We're good. We're in a planning. No red light or red flag. Up to now so we're good on that. Bruno or Alyssa is there something I missed or should clarify fine for me. Yeah, I think it sounds good for me as well. Yeah, we have we have if there's anything I mean we have these this document that is available that's that we're using as our guidance to planning. So we just this much to be done here the project idea. But I think we can get this finalized by the time the the the published accepted mentoring orgs. Right. Yeah. So we're, we need to have a good lineup so that our, our application is strong. But there's also some insertitudes or some unknowns on where is the focus or interest from the applicants are going to be. So we need to Yeah, we'll more more details on the next outreach. SIG meeting so because we have the meeting to fine tune that just after this one. Yep. We're good.