I love the premise of this show.   Oh, we go where we not supposed to go, baby.  Yep, Charlamagne the God. Andrew Schultz. We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. And this week's episode is brought to you by Squarespace. From websites and online stores, the marketing tools and analytics. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform to build a beautiful online presence and run your business. There are no hidden fees or price hikes and all websites are optimized for mobile. And it's so simple. Start with a design template and use drag and drop tools to make it your own.  Now let's start the show. Schultz! What's up, baby? How are you, my brother? Bro. I'm good. I'm good. You are? Yeah, I'm pretty good. How are you? You think it happened? Nothing crazy. It's quiet, bro. No, yeah. Really quiet week, man. Yeah, yo, that, can I say something? Yeah, even though I know we're- That's what's a podcast. We're supposed to say something. That's the point. That penis-length thing hurt. Yeah, bro. The penis-length? Bro, I saw him on, what's your guy's name? Lex. Lex. I mean, Lex is your wedding, actually. Yeah. Very interesting person. That's the person I would really like to have a conversation with. Yeah, we gotta get Lex. Because I didn't know Lex was a real human. Like, I literally thought he was Joe Rogan's shooter. I don't know if he- Oh, oh, oh. I didn't know he had his own podcast. I mean, I knew after that night, but I didn't know he had his own podcast. I didn't know he was a MIT scientist. Yeah, he makes robots. Are we sure he's not one? I think he might be one. Yes. I'm not even joking when I say that. Yeah, yeah. The way he moves is just like very, very robotic. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I saw Kanye on his podcast and we can insert this.  People. Just in general, they love me so much. I'm like actually a hard guy to really hate for a long period of time because of my huge cock. And- That's what I noticed. I didn't understand why he showed it to me when we first met, but now I understand. Yeah. It's very nice. Congratulations. Congratulations.  It's because he wants that energy.  Yeah, yeah.   Yeah, yeah.  Yeah, yeah.  Even if you hear a woman say it, it don't sound the same. It won't be like, yeah, he got a billion dollars, but he got a 10-inch dick, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoa. That hits different. It's different. It's literally- It's different. Kanye was in that interview talking about dick, the way he talks about billions everywhere else. Yeah. You didn't find that interesting? Yeah, all of a sudden, he's like, I don't care about money.  I wouldn't care about money, either. I was about to lose it all. You better not. Yeah. I will say that- So we're recording this Tuesday. Tuesday. It should come out tomorrow, depending on what Andrew says during the podcast that you have to edit. But this has been, this will go down as one of the biggest Ls a person has ever taken in business. And all year long, I've been thinking, it's been two years, it's been two things that have been on my mind all year long. Boundaries, meaning setting boundaries, it started with me reading a Nezra Tawab Globis Set Boundaries fine piece, Setting Boundaries. But also, I read a book called The Big Leap because self-sabotage is at an all-time high, man. Yeah. Like, I've seen so many people self-sabotage this year that it is unbelievable. And this is just the latest case of somebody self-sabotaging. And it's very, I don't even want to say sad. Sad isn't the right word because it's expected. Like, we all saw this coming. But there is nobody to blame for this situation other than Kanye, Omari, Wes. Yeah. He did this all to himself. He made every single one of these choices. All of these choices were rooted in bigotry, everything from the white lives matter shirt to the anti-Semitic comments. You know, even what he said about George Floyd and we all know that's not the way George Floyd died. Those are white supremacist talking points. Everything is rooted in bigotry. So to see this happen, it's not a surprise to me. Are you surprised it's going down like this? I'm not until this, I wasn't until this morning. Why? Because I spoke to someone and what they said to me is that, and they believe this backfired. Don't get me wrong, but they believe that he was true. The goal of all this was to get Adidas to drop him. I do not believe that. I don't know why people keep saying that. I've heard that talking point. This was not any strategic marketing plan to be dropped by anybody. Why would you want to go out like this? Because here's the thing, if you go out like this, you can't do business nowhere else. Again, again, it was executed poorly because now the brand is so radioactive he might not be able to do anything, right?  He didn't just lose Adidas with this. No, he lost everything. That's what I'm saying. But the other things didn't provide him as much money as the Adidas thing. So I think what a lot of people don't understand about the Adidas thing is that he gets a royalty for all the sneakers. He owns Yeezy 100%. That's not what they said this morning. This morning they said that they, I'll read, keep talking, I'll pull up the article. Okay, so my understanding is that, well, yeah, that's basically kind of what I was talking to. So basically it was a licensing deal. So Adidas does everything for him, right? Now- It's a brand marketing deal. Sure, yeah. But Kanye owns his trademarks and eventually the trademark is gonna expire and then for the licensing deal expires. And then he re-ups and has another licensing deal with Adidas. I think what he was very frustrated by was the fact that he had bosses. So Kanye wants this thing. He wants somebody to give him all the money, create all the infrastructure, do all the thing, but then he doesn't want anybody to tell him what to do. And that's not how the world works. So somebody gives you money, they get to tell you what to do. It's very simple. I don't understand why people even look at it like that. Yo, you got a partnership. Regardless, if you have a partnership or not, if you do have a partnership, a true partnership, that other person is gonna have a say. That's what a partner is, right? You have a marriage. The other person has a say.  And sometimes you're gonna tell them to do things that you don't want to do. And then you guys work it out. He does not want that at all. So what I was told is he was trying to force their hands. Now in trying to force his hand, he might have made himself so radioactive that nobody wants to do business with him at all because at the end of the day, when you really think about it, Adidas made all their clothes, distributed all those clothes to their millions of people, right?  They have the infrastructure, they have the relationship with the factories out there in China, right? They have the relationship with the materials. They can do all the things. Kanye, like he says, he goes, I'm a visionary, I'm a visionary. But what he means by that is I don't do nothing. He creates. I think. And that's fine. But I don't do. That's enough. You create, you create the design. But you need a billion dollar company to do all that doing.  I'll take all over the sneakers. I'll have the clothing brands. I got it. Here's the thing. He needs either his own cash, which who knows if he has enough, or he needs to find cash from somewhere else to not only create that infrastructure.  You probably could get a loan from the bank you was with.   But who's going to give the guy money who's just going ham for lack of a better word on the Jews. And that was good. Chosen one. Hey, man, when you got it, you got it. What you supposed to do? You know what I'm saying? So who's going to give him the money if he doesn't have his own? We all know he doesn't like putting his own money up. Well, he did that. And it failed. Yeah. This is what Adidas said. It's after a thorough review. The company has taken the decision to terminate the partnership with Yee immediately in production of Yeezy branded products and stop all payments to Yee and his companies. So that's the crazy thing. But can I say one thing on that? The stop the payments is really interesting. No, it's not. Well, I want to hear your perspective. But the thing about the payment is those payments are money that's already due, right? So the reason they're stopping payments is because they think that there's going to be a tough negotiation ahead to see how they're going to separate these businesses, right? So he gets a royalty. That means you get $5 on every sneaker or $30.  So that's money owed to him. They're holding that money because they're going to work on a separation agreement. Generally, the separation agreement is, hey, you hurt our brand this much.  I believe that. Boom. He'll get his money from the royalties. Well, they're holding it so that they have leverage in the negotiation. I think he'll eventually get, if he's old royalties, he'll get his money from the royalties. But moral clause, that's it. That's it moving forward. And it says Adidas will stop the Adidas Yeezy business with immediate effect. It said this would have a short-term negative impact of up to 250 million euros, which is $246 million of that income in 2022. Yeah, you heard that? You heard that, Europeans? Your money worth nothing. Due to the high seasonality in the fourth quarter, but this is what they say. Adidas added that it was the sole owner of all design rights to existing products, as well as previous and new color ways under the partnership. And they'll provide more information during third quarter earnings of November 19. Here's the thing, man. Ego is a motherfucker. When you get on drink champs and you say things like.  I could say anti-semitic things and Adidas can't drop me. Now what? Adidas is ending its partnership with Kanye West. The German sneaker giant says it does not tolerate anti-semitism and any other sort of hate speech. That was one of the most eagle-filled, narcissistic comments I've ever heard a human make in my life. And I always say nobody is bigger than the machine. I don't care who you are. I don't care who you are. Don't ever think you too big for any situation because they will show you that you're not in a heartbeat. And the fact that you would say that for a company like Adidas that is a German company, the founder was a part of the Nazi party. Was he really? Yeah. I can't remember his name. He said a D something. Pull up his name somebody. And then... Aren't they brothers? Adi and then Das. And Germany has done a pretty good job with denoxification. Do you think they're gonna stand next to a Nazi? I mean, I'm shocked that it took this long. I'm shocked they were the last ones to do it. Well, they put the deal under review, right? They put the deal under review after the anti-black comments, right?  I'm like, but that's the key. Where we as black people standing up for each other, where we as black people upset about Kanye West anti-black comments, because this ain't the first time Kanye has done anti-black comments. This goes back to slavery was a choice. This goes back to Harriet Tubman, you know, didn't free the slaves. This goes back to A, y'all need to stop focusing on race so much. Like, were we as upset as we probably should have been about those anti-black comments, did we? You know, hold Kanye accountable or did we keep buying his shoes? Or did we keep listening to his music? You know, did we make excuses for Kanye when he would have his anti-black rhetoric? Jewish community didn't play that at all in no way shape or form. None, this is unacceptable. They not standing for it. They not playing with it. Boom. Yeah, I would also say that like, Kanye said that when he gets canceled by the media or canceled by these companies, he goes, he's like, this is proving his point about the Jewish media. He goes, see, look, I'm getting canceled. There must be a Jewish media. He was on Lex's podcast, Lex was like, don't say Jewish media, just say media. Like, he goes, he goes, but see, this is it. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Now, is it though? No. Well, well, well, well, I would say this. It's like, we've had owners of basketball teams, billionaires like Kanye West say racist things. That's right. And what has happened to them? In a league that's 85% black, bang, bang. You gotta go. Immediately canceled. By those other Jewish owners, mind you. Donald Sterling was Jewish. I'm saying Donald Sterling's last name is Tola Witch or something. I'm saying, but according to Kanye, he's like, oh, all the only Jews own basketball teams. All those Jews went to another Jew and were like, yeah, you can't do that. That's right. So I don't think that what's happening to Kanye is unique. I think we've seen it over and over again. When you say horrible things and you are beholden to massive corporations who care about their image, you get canceled from them. Yes. It's not hard. It's not rocket science. Jewish media, this is the way the world works. They have to worry about you making their brand radioactive. So it's in your contract. If you have a brand marketing deal, it's in your contract. Not even just brand marketing deals. If you're part of a corporation, those moral clauses are in your contract. They're there. Certain behavior is not going to be tolerated and bigotry is not gonna be tolerated. You know what I mean? It's just not. I just don't think it's anything specific to him or this idea of Jewish media. I don't think we see it happen over and over again. Is that when people... Now I'm not for cancellation in general. This ain't cancellation. No, I understand what you're saying. I guess what I'm just trying to say is he's saying it's something unique that's happened to him because he's going at Jews. No.  Right? Yeah.  Yeah. We've seen it happen. So you're not unique in this. And it's happened to billionaires. It's happened to motion billionaires. Like shit, the guy, the head of the... One of the Phoenix Suns, he got to sell his team now. Yeah. It's a matter of who's going to buy it. Yeah. Because he said some racist stuff. The owner of the Panthers. We forget about him. I can't remember. He might have died though. But this was recently in like the past. He's still alive. The guy who had to sell his team looked out. He had to sell his team a few years ago. He said some racist stuff. He had to get up out of there. That's just the nature of the business. Like you're not going to run around being a bigot, spewing that kind of bigotry and nothing's going to happen.  He goes, the Lex interview is really interesting. You guys should go check it out. Who programmed Lex with his interview? I don't know, I'm not sure. It might have been Brogan. He had a lot of empathy. So it might have been Oprah. I think... I don't know. Lex is Jewish, right? Yeah, he is. He's Jewish. So, which is why it was specifically good. He's also from Ukraine, right? So he has, you know, close ties to what has happened to Jews in Europe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, specifically his family. Yeah. Killed in the Holocaust. So it was very interesting to like see him talk to him. There's a couple of things that I think he brought out of Kanye that I didn't realize before, but are now incredibly apparent. One of which was... Dick Envy? Not Dick Envy. But yeah, you got to see it. It was a loneliness and a hurt. Oh, you're just seeing that? But now it's so obvious. Come on, Schultz. I didn't realize, like there's some moments in the pot where he literally says, he goes, I don't trust anybody and I only have relationships with people that are mutually beneficial. And that is this lonely way to live, bro. And that is like heartbreaking. That is a lonely way to live. But if that is how you see the world and that is how you see people, people only are your friends if they have utility for you. Everything's transactional. Everything is transactional. Now you can see why someone would act this way. You can see why someone would lash out at everybody. Think about the people who lash out at everybody. Those people are beholden to nobody through love at least.  Like you'll be incredibly competitive with them.  He talks about this relationship he has with God and now I realize that's the only relationship he got. We need to start really, really leaning into God because nothing he's doing is up God. Nothing I've seen him do is up God. He literally was like, it's just me and God. It's like, you got kids, bro. Man. You know what I'm saying?  I agree with everything you just said, man. And you know, that's my thing, right? I hope that this is what it takes for him to actually... How people hurt people like you always say, man. They do. And I hope that this is what helps him to go find some real healing because clearly he's hurting, right? And I just, I don't see this ending well. You know, I feel like he's moving like a person who doesn't feel like he's going to be here much longer. You know what I mean? And... How much longer? I'm not even doing that, but I just feel like he's moving... I just feel like he's moving like a person who's not going to be here much longer. And I also feel like, damn, I lost my train of thought because I'm really thinking about that. Hurt people, man. But no, he's definitely a hurt person. But I'm also just feeling like... I'll go on something and then when you remember, just let me know. But I think there's something to this idea that the immense pain that he probably feels... And don't get me wrong. He is a musician, okay? He is an artist. We all know that there are people in entertainment that have been taken advantage of. There's no question that he's been taken advantage of in his life, okay? Oh, in his life? We all have. No, no, no. And I'm not saying... Listen, there's been times you've had. There's been times I have. We've been taken advantage of. That is a natural course of the business we're in. That is a natural course of life in a lot of ways, especially if you're somebody who has a talent or has value that other people can profit from. So I can understand that resentment and that complete distrust in humanity manifesting itself in a hate. And Lex was telling him one thing that was really interesting. Don't say Jewish media. Tell me the people specifically that have hurt you. Say their names. That's the brave thing to do. It's not brave to just label a whole group.    Say their names. Yeah. You're not saying names for some reason. It's because he doesn't really have any names because I don't even think this was a fight that he was trying to fight. He was literally trying to deflect. He does this all the time. I tell you all this. He is on a quest for white validation. His thing. And I think that's what I wanted to say earlier. I'm not sure if this is what I wanted to say, but I think this is what I wanted to say. Kanye doesn't love anybody because Kanye doesn't love himself. Kanye loves the idea of whiteness. Kanye wants white validation. He really wants to be accepted by that crowd, by that circle. And he's willing to be accepted by that crowd and by that circle by shitting on his own community, which he does often. Which he does often. Y'all, y'all got to get over race or slavery was a choice. Or wearing the white lives matter shirt. Somebody said to me, they said this last week, because it was me and Chris having a conversation.    And that's the thing that really bugs me about y'all when Kanye was, what do y'all see or hear about Kanye that makes y'all feel like Kanye is so black? Well, there's nothing about Kanye that's pro black except for his rhetoric when he's in trouble. He taps in my when he's in trouble. That's it.  I think this thing, he snitches on himself all the time. It's so funny.  And what did he say literally in the interview? It's, I don't trust anybody unless we have mutual interest.  My interest is getting out of trouble. So boom, I got you until I get out of trouble. That's right. And he talks about both sides of his mouth because he'll say things like, it's all of these bad deals. All of these bad deals that we've signed. But then I'm a multi-billionaire. You should take advice from me. Why should I listen to anybody when I'm a multi-billionaire? What kind of bad deal did you sign to become a multi-billionaire? Yeah, yeah. Because I need one. Give me the back. Can I have the bad deal? Have you ever signed a bad deal that made you a multi-billionaire? Yeah. Like, come on, man.  Yeah. That's how I felt when Chris Rock said he was on the spectrum. Yes, sir. And I was like, well, give me that. Well, that's probably what makes Rock Rock. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Taylor, what's the question, Taylor? Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. So remember when he got on stage to talk about Taylor Swift not deserving that award and everything? He was riding with him because it was for Beyonce. So where was that switch? Like, he was riding for us and everything else. We all agree with him. No, this is something that he'd done that's very interesting. What he's done right now, and I think he's done this before, but he's done what Trump did so effectively, which was... Oh, yes. Go. He's tapped into counterculture groups that have no famous representation. And what Trump did is he tapped into certain groups that weren't being represented politically at all. And all you have to do is give them a... A boogeyman. A boogeyman. You got to give them a boogeyman. But oftentimes there's a boogeyman out there that they already hate, but nobody is picking on that person. So he gives them little bits of crumbs. So if you look at the things that Kanye said, the whole, like, Jews run the bank's rhetoric, there's a whole lot of people out there... I believe that. They believe that. And nobody in politics or nobody in entertainment is saying it. So now they have their guy. I was speaking, because I got a lot of flack for shitting on Kanye, right? And I was speaking to some of these people who are shitting all over me.  And I DM'd one and I was like... A sellout. Because they're like, yo, because you're not supposed to censor people, Andrew. You're not supposed to call people out. You're going with the mainstream... Nobody's censoring Kanye. They're saying, I'm going with the mainstream media narrative, basically. Okay, it doesn't matter. Let me get to the point. So he goes, so they're like this. So they go... So for example, like, they go, they go, yeah, you're part of the mainstream media right now. You're just trying to get the Daily Show job.  Oh, but I put that on. It's okay. It's fine. I did. I said that in the interview. I said Andrew shows is the best guy. Well, you're right, you're right. But, yeah, you're right. But I'm not going to... But I have no interest. It's just by you being right. But essentially, essentially what those people said that I was talking to, they go, they go, listen, this is how they start the combo. I go, I go, why do you guys call me this? Like, can you explain what you mean by this? And they go, you're taking the mainstream narrative.   They literally start the conversation like that.  But he's right about George Floyd fence and all. But he's right about the Jews having influence on the bank. But he's right about this. So all that is, is this famous guy agreeing with this one niche thing they care about that no one else is talking about. And Trump did that perfectly. He would tap into all these different groups that had no representation. And he'd just give them a nod or a wink and they went crazy. You saw the anti-Semitic group over the four or five freeway in L.A. where they got the big sign that says Kanye was right about the Jews. Do you know what it is? It's like, what does that even mean? That's such a blanket state. Well, we'll go. But like, you know what it is?  You know what I'm talking about? That's what Kanye is doing to these fringe groups or Trump is doing to the fringe groups. You just give them a little bit of a wink and whatever you want. Right? Because they get no attention. Oh, you're right. You're absolutely right. So so I thought it was true, right? And that's what kind of so these troops. And then you see this, they're charged up these motherfuckers. But by the way, this is what Chris was explaining last week. And when anybody who knows history knows this is what Jewish people are. Afraid of. They're afraid of a figure like a Kanye West riling up these anti-Semitic hate groups. Yeah. And anti-Semitism has been rising over the past few years here in America. That's what they're afraid of.  You know what I mean? Yeah, go back to the golf course and go in the holes and go live under the holes. Yeah. Oh, Chris, come on, Chris, come on. Here we go. Mask off.  I'd just like to start by thanking a lot of the listeners who left comments last week. This is the most Jewish I felt since I was a little kid. The anti-Semitism I got. My God, I haven't gotten that since I was eight years old. I've never felt this Jewish before. You was getting that much anti-Semitism? Where at already? That Jew has his little hat on too tight. That's funny, bro. I know, it's funny. I was like, what are they talking about? Oh, OK. Yeah, a lot of Jew hate. But that's true. I did. Yeah, we did identify you as Asian for the past five years. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Sorry to catfish everybody. But what you were saying? You were saying or not? I don't mind seeing that. I don't mind. I'd rather smoke them out. You'd rather know who the Jew haters are. Well, these guys are standing out in the open. But they already knew about this group, though.  I saw, I was watching one of the news programs and the Jewish people who were discussing won't even say the group's name on purpose. Like, they know who this group is. Yeah, this is a known organization. I can't remember. I'm not, I don't remember the name either, but they won't even say their name. They're a known organization. So I'm just saying all Kanye's doing, Andrew's point is emboldening people like this. Yeah, I mean, the reality is most people have not met a Jew. Most people have never met a Jew. Like, so it's like, they know nothing about Jews. I know, yeah, well, I guess. They don't. They just don't know anything about Jews. That's wild. I hadn't really seen the picture in detail before. I mean, they're giving the sig high along. Yeah, they're going crazy. Yeah, they're doing hail, hit, land, everything. So the reality is like the only thing that they know about Jews is they hear that they were on the banks or they see them in like positions of power and positions of wealth. And if you do not have those things and you look at your life and you're like, there's no way I'll ever get these things, that's an easy road for resentment, right? Now, all of a sudden, they're your boogeyman. They're the reason why you don't have these things, right? Sure. It's like, at least with black people, even if you haven't hung out with black people, they're so represented in media, maybe not in the ways that you want to be represented, but like, you can't turn on a basketball game. You can't turn on sports. You can't turn on MTV. You can't turn on the radio. They are, Well, I think it's because we blocked into American culture. That's true. You're not turning on a basketball game and seeing a Jewish guy unless he's in the front row. There's a perfect example. I think of your Jewish, were you offended by any of the things I'm saying? Because I'm making fun of the racist stereotypes about Jews. I'm fine. Right? The dangerous one is, no, they are in control of government. Right.    Oh, this is interesting. He's amplifying what people already existed. He's emboldening them. Yeah. Two percent of people who heard him say that were like, you know, I never really thought about Jews that way. Yeah. Maybe, no. They've been, like you said, waiting, waiting for their guy to give them and now they're like, thank you, let's run. These guys are ready.    It became the meme, became everything. Now they weren't lunatics anymore. All those conspiracy theorists during that Epstein time time became the most logical actors. Yeah, Pete's The Gate was, what the conspiracy theory, Pete's The Gate was justified. I understand what you're saying. Like you understand why they're what that happened.  Oh, I wasn't even talking about the shooting. I was talking about just the conspiracy of Pete's The Gate. Ah, yeah. Like so all of these people that believed, oh, like these people are trapping kids. That the Democratic Party is trapping kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see where the paranoia came from. Yes. Yeah. I just think, it was all an act. Kanye West has never cared about black people. He got on TV one time. You don't think that George Bush thing, that felt real to me. That was an, man, that was him. He was saying that because he knew that's what the moment called for. Y'all not understand this is who Kanye West is. Whatever the moment calls for, he will give you. I watched him in that Piers Morgan interview, say he's not apologizing on one side of his mouth, then turn around and say, yeah, I do apologize to the people with the death content. He judges this all the time. He'll try to be all things to all people. That's why he's so entertained. I mean, say what you want.   And just a week later, what we seeing? We seeing a plane land without the wheels coming up. Yeah. You know what I mean?  Yeah. You know? He was worth a couple billion dollars last week. Now he's worth 400 million. It's still great money. Yeah. But I'm just saying you lost everything for what? That's what I want to talk about when I talk about just self sabotage. What was all of this about? Well, I think that he's created the hero's journey in his mind. He has to free his people. He has to do all this. Here's what he's gonna learn about the hero's journey. Ain't none of these motherfuckers loyal? Well, I think he knows that already. They're laughing at him now. Well, yeah, that is true.  Oh, now you only worth 400 million. Oh, you're not worth a billion no more. Now they tie turns and you're the court jester now. You were their king two days ago. Now you're the court jester. I wouldn't even say that he was their king. I think he was also their mouthpiece. What's that trending topic right there? What is it? Damn, yeah? Oh. Because this is what people do.   Yeah.  Yeah. Well, guess what?  Okay.  And I don't, I just hope that, you know, I hope that he stays alive and heals. Yeah. That's what I hope. Literally. Yeah. That's what I hope. I hope he stays alive and heals at some point. Yeah. And I ain't even just forget all the professional stuff. Heals what? Whatever, you said he's hurting. I feel the same way. He's clearly hurting about something. Yeah, I think that he's, no, I think Kim sure as well. Maybe Dicksize? Maybe Dicksize, but like, yeah, I just think he's like a really lonely guy.  That's the other thing.  Yeah. How do you say me and Dame are assholes? Wasn't that a line in one? I think Dame is a way better human than Kanye West. Right. Yeah. Because Dame will never make a statement like I'm only dealing with you because of mutual interests. Yeah. I don't think Dame likes transactional relationships. Right. I don't, that's not what I get from Dame Dash when I've interacted with Dame Dash and spoke with Dame Dash. I think Dame Dash really cares about people. I think, I think, That's not what life is about, man. No. I mean, life is genuinely, you can break it down to like, to love, right? You know, that's what we're here. That's why we have relationships. That's why we have children. And like that love is what bonds us and kind of holds communities and groups together. And for a person that doesn't like to be used to your earlier point, you don't like to be used by these corporations, but you're letting all of these white supremacist groups use you? Not only white supremacist groups, like what, what you, and another thing that Lex Prestum on is like, if you're so upset with the system and you're this genius visionary, create a better version of the system. Like you had a record label and then he was like, but I was just in face only and they was doing it the way that they want to do it. And it's like, do good music the way you want to do it.  So it's like, you, what? What? No, I mean, that's that Akash brought up that point too.  And then you did the same thing.  You know what I'm saying?  Everybody wants to fuck, man. Yeah, I wonder who's, you know, that's the other conversation that's been happening this week. Who's really responsible for the content that comes out on these platforms? The what? I don't, please, please, please. The what? Please come on. Just keep it here. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I don't know what she. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kayla's not with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kayla, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kayla, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your hair looks fantastic. We're not, I'm talking about content as far as music and sneakers.  Yes.  I just want to let you know. Yes, it is.   Okay? Okay. I don't know if there's a board big enough. But listen, there's, there's, what do you think? Who do you think is responsible for the content? Huh? What's y'all laughing at? What's y'all laughing at? What happened?  What happened? This guy. This guy's a maniac, bro. This guy's an absolute maniac right now. What happened? What do you talk about? Ooh, that's a good point. What?  I said that a lot? What did you say a lot? What did you say? I thought that was in here. Did you? Did you think it was in here?   Who do you think is responsible for the content that artists make? Music? Really music. Let's keep it at music. I think there's mutual... Look, at the end of the day, like I want everybody to be personally accountable, right? I want that, genuinely, especially the older you get. I think you have the ability to be personally accountable. But that being said, it's like there's immense influence, right? So people are going to dress a certain way because of people that influence them. And we can't deny that as well. I mean, right now in Jamaica, I think they outlawed all music and TV shows that embraced like gangs and drugs. Now, they're trying to use censorship as a way to reduce influence.  But they recognize that there is an influence. You know, I think even Kanye is trying to say is like, I want to create songs that my kids can listen to and I want to get away from this kind of like gangster stuff, which is like he's never... He's never really been on it. Been on it, which is also wildly convenient. I did not have to deal with this in my life. So nobody should talk about it. I think that, you know, man, there's a phrase called power to the people. And I think that we keep giving these corporations, we give these corporations a lot more credit and we give them a lot more... We hold them a lot more accountable than I think we should because they're only putting out what they're given from artists and they're only putting out what's being consumed by the people. What they think will sell.  If you're upset about the music that degrades women and celebrates the gang culture and celebrates the drug culture, simply don't buy it. I promise you, if you stop buying it and don't consume it, no, the artists won't make it and record labels won't put it out. So ultimately it's on us, the consumer. I think so. I think all of this is about outrage of people. You're upset that nobody came to the defense of black people during the slavery with the choice comments and Harriet Tubman didn't free the slaves. Where are the people? We are the people that is supposed to come to our defense. We're supposed to hold somebody accountable for that.  I promise you, the artists will stop making it. The only reason artists have made this music for the past 20, 30 years is number one. Yes, the socioeconomic conditions do call for it, but also because it sells.   We consumed it. And not just black people, America. Because America, it ain't even just about hip hop.   What's the biggest thing on Netflix right now? Jeffrey Dunn. That's what I'm saying.  Pop culture is violent. You can go back to the old school Westerns, Cowboys, and Indian mafia movies. We're rebels. Everybody who's here is a descendant of a rebel. They left their country. They left their way of life. They left their people. They went out to have a new life, and they have to push back. And you got to fight for yourself in order to make that new life.  Ain't nobody came here back in the day and did everything by the books to make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody scraps. And they did a little. Look at the Kennedys.  Bro, every single. Not Coke. What is it? No, no, no, no. Bull legged. Bull legged. They were rum runners. Rum runners. Exactly. It's like you look at all these like refined, distinguished families in American history. You could boil them all down to selling either drugs or alcohol, which wasn't a legal substance at the time. And there was some murders that happened. There was some people doing. Yes. You can't, when they say you can't make an almond if you crack, if you don't crack a few eggs. Yes. That was derived from white people killing each other. Yeah. But that should sound good. Yeah, it is. You know what I mean? Because eggs and whites. 100%. But my point is we keep acting like hip hop is the only genre of music that profits off violence. That's not true.  We don't act like that. I mean. Well, no, no, no. I'm saying some people in. Rock and roll. Some people in the actual culture.  Oh, gotcha. You know what I mean? And they're pointing the finger at the record executives and saying, oh, the record executives need to do better and blah, blah, blah. I think that it really is on the artist and the consumer. Yeah, yeah. Like the artist makes these. And by the way, even when they say that, right? They talk about the record executives. What about these people that are independent? They're making the same type of music. You know why they're making the same type of music? Because that's the type of music that's playing in the club. That's the type of music that's selling. And that's the type of music that they feel like they want to make. And that's the cycle. That's the cycle. So you can't just point the finger at the record executives. It's like, it's not like record executives are sitting there saying, I need you to make a record about murder. I need you to make a record about killing. Having been, not a record executive, but having been somebody who's in charge of putting together a playlist at one time.  Right? I just was like, okay, this is what is playing. This is how we're going to rank it. I mean, it's, you know, and I think the irony is, I think consumers are in a better position now than they've ever been to make those sort of conclusions. Cause at least when I was growing up, you could argue I didn't have a control over what was on the radio, right? Like they were just feeding that to me. And then I get hooked in. You decide now. And when you give us the freedom to do it, we actually make decisions that are a little bit better for ourselves.  So they're like, all right, we can- It supersized me documentary. Exactly. So now we got to get a little healthy, right? So the more options we have, but you're right at the end of the day, it's like we decide what we consume. I'm old enough. I was born in the 1900s, 1978.  Late 80s, Rock Kim wasn't talking about that. It was there. It was just more balanced. I think it was a lot more balanced, but it's like Rock Kim, Sick Rick, the Big Daddy Kains, the Public Enemies, the K.R.S. Wands. And then you had N.W.A. The Goody Mobs, the Outcast. N.W.A. came in like late 80s, early 90s, you know what I mean?  When the West Coast took off with that gangsta shit, that's what everybody started doing. It's also like a reflection of like time as well. You know, like if you're rapping in the 70s, that's the end of the disco area. Everybody's getting- We're getting out of this war. Everybody's having fun. They're doing drugs. Everything's cool. 80s is the crack era. You get violence. Social economic conditions, that music reflects that. Exactly, 100%. Yeah. And by the way, there's always been balance. It's just about what you want now. To Chris's point about the era that we're in, the balance is definitely there. But if all you do is listen to maybe the radio sometime, you know what I mean? You might hear a little bit more future or whoever than Kendrick. You know what I mean? But it's not like Kendrick don't exist. It's not like over the past decade, the three biggest rappers of the past decade, three out of the four, ain't on none of that.     You know what I mean? Let me Drake on it a little bit. Not really? Yes.  And- Is that again? He's an album of 2011 Savage. My God, he's 12 years in the game. Can he make one killing album? I'm okay with him making a bunch. He's 12 years in the game, y'all. I'm okay with him making a bunch. He's giving us a bunch of love songs and reggaeton. And Drake is giving us every genre.   Like- He's up there. I'm not gonna knock all of them simply saying- This generation's undeniable. Like who's close to Drake? This generation. It depends. It depends what you call- I mean, it depends what you're basing it on.  Future, yeah. Future, right there. Future, yeah.  But- J Cole, no. Culturally influential? Future, right there? Oh, no, I think musically influential. I agree with Kanye.  And I completely agree with that. Yeah. I just want us to all stop self-sabotaging, man. Yeah, self-sabotaging.  All of these wounds that have happened to Kanye West over the past couple of weeks are self-inflicted. He didn't, nobody did this to him. He did this to himself. Those words were choices. Those actions were choices. Y'all can sit around and try to blame these boogeymen and say, this person did that and this person did that and it's because this person's in control and this person's about, no, he did that to himself. I think so with you. Well, let me, because you said something about the hero's journey, right? Like he's trying to... Slay the dragon. But the being a victim part of the hero's journey, because that's what I hear from him, right? I'm a victim. Yes, that's what he's doing right now. These things have been done to me. Yes. And I'm like, I don't know, where does that come from? Narcissism, because that's what narcissists do. They want to have self pity and they want to be a victim in a mess that... They want to be a hero and a victim in a mess that they created. Yeah.  Nobody's going to root for you as the bully. So he has to create... Even if it's like the Jewish media sounds like a bigger boogeyman than Dave Silverman.  Whoever, sorry, Dave Silverman. I don't know if you are a real person, but he sounds, that's way more dangerous, this ominous looming organization than just these two lawyers that might have fucked him. And here's the reality.  Jews, non-Jews. Everybody. Muslims, Hindus, everybody's going to...  And that's the lesson that you have to... That's why community is so important and friendship is so important. Because when you find those people that you truly believe won't, you got to hold them near and dear. Right, that's right. You got to hold them near and dear, man. It's interesting, because when you said that I'm thinking about it, like if you even go back to college dropout, which was probably like when I was most engaged with Connie's music, like that was the myth that he created about himself, right? Like I wanted to be a rapper. Nobody believed in me. I had to prove it over and over then. They wouldn't put me on. There was this force trying to... And I bought that.  Like you had direct access. He didn't have the best voice, you know what I mean? Like he wasn't the best rapper. Like the pushback, he had the best ghost writers. I can relate to Kanye in that way where it's just like I had a lot of success in like traditional TV, but I wasn't getting opportunities in comedy. Right. And then sometimes being so close to it and not being allowed is even more painful because you're like, wait a minute. I'm here. Right there. I'm right here. Whereas the person who's not even in the room. So I can understand where that starts to play, that journey starts to like happen in your head. Where like they're not gonna allow me. They're not gonna do it. And how motivational that is. Every boxer I imagine in the beginning starts to build this backstory about who the person they're about to fight is. We know Jordan would do that all the time. Absolutely. Oh, they really think that they could stop me. And I took that personally. And I took that personally. So maybe he's using his fuel for his fire. The Russell has a great album title. And his album title is, I Hate It When Life's Great. And you know, some of us deal with that.  Because when things are going really good, if you're used to, you know, if you have a certain level of PTSD and you're used to bad things happening all the time, when good stuff happens, you can't even allow yourself to enjoy it. Yeah. Because you're like, What's gonna happen? Something bad is gonna happen. Like, this is a mirage. This isn't real. I feel like that's where, that's what he was at. Yeah. It's like, my dad used to call it, I don't know if this is the technical term of besieged mentality. Yeah. And I have that sometimes. Like, I have a fantastic life.  You can't tell me, at the same time, I don't always feel like there are a million knives. You know, like I just constantly kind of see the world that way. And I think that's probably what he's suffering from. Like the sense that no matter what's happening, no matter how great it gets, I'm under attack. Yeah. The barbarians are at the gate.   I just, man, I just don't like the self-sabotage. And I think there's a lot of different conversations happening at once. But the moral of the story is Kanye West is a Nazi. You know what I mean?   I don't want to call them Hitler. Like, obviously, I didn't- I'm not calling them Hitler. Nazi behavior, though. Sure, sure. I did those jokes in the rant.   It's like a funny thing to say. But what I do push back on is when we get into this- How do we know he's not Hitler, though? Well- Because the thing about Hitler's origin story, which I've been reading about this week. That's what I'm saying. He was an artist that wasn't appreciated. He was not even an artist. What he really was, was homeless. No. For a long time. That's why Kanye been dressing like that. Now, now we're getting somewhere. Let's go, Chris, unpack. This guy was- But you get what I'm saying, real quick, because I'll do what he hears, but you get what I'm saying is like, if we start calling everybody a Nazi, nobody's a Nazi. It loses its impact, right? It gets diluted. Is this not Nazi behavior at all?  I don't think that's what Kanye is saying. Is that Nazi rhetoric? Yeah, he's flirting with Nazi rhetoric. Okay, all right. He's gotta get slapped and taken dead.  I don't think that Kanye's end goal is to remove all the Jews from the planet. I agree with you, but guess what? Is that fair to make that distinction? I want to be- I get what you're saying, but if you lead to the rhetoric of somebody that decides, yes, Kanye's right, now I'm gonna go start taking black people and the Jewish people out. Yeah. You sparked that? No, that's 100%. You sparked that? That's 100%.  You don't get to the real one. If you stop it out now and label it now, you'll never get to a real one. True. That's a good- Which is, for me, it's Trump, right?   Jews like Trump. Well, that's what I was about to say. There's a whole- Right now, Jews are very much on the same page, right? Like, Kanye's bad. There's a whole- Another conversation that doesn't happen too publicly within the Jewish community that needs to take place with the fact that there are- I mean, you can look, you know, whether it's Stephen Miller, Trump's speechwriter, whether it's the guy Lee Zeldin, who's running for governor on Reference Club. Yeah, I mean, these are guys who I think are getting in bed with fascist forces, and that's another conversation. And it's complicated. It's nuanced. Just the same way that, you know, what's anti-blackness within the black community is complicated. Like, where's the line? Like, for the Jews right now, the line is very clear, but if we're being real, once you go push beneath the surface a little bit, it's not everybody's on the same page. What you just said is very real about the line, right? Because when it comes to black people, we don't- It seems to not know what the line is because slavery was a choice that didn't seem to cross the line. Harriet Tubman didn't free the slaves, didn't seem to cross the line. Flirting with fascism by giving Trump a lap dance in the White House didn't seem to cross the line. You know what I mean? It's the truth.  That didn't cross the line. So it's just like- Can we clarify that a bit?  Did you watch it? No. First of all, and I was- That was that kind of time. I said this on, I said this on Flagrant, but like documentaries are more dangerous than guns, bro. Like, I would let every person have a gun before I let every person make a documentary. So this shapes your thoughts? Like a gun only makes you think something when you point it out.  Like, if someone's like, did George Floyd die of fentanyl? You'd be like, sure, as long as that gun is pointed and then when that gun goes away, he ain't dying of fentanyl. But a documentary will actually make you feel a certain way. Now, I watched it. The fentanyl thing is very flimsy, incredibly flimsy. He had low levels of fentanyl and meth in his system. It's regardless- Very low levels. It doesn't matter what the levels are because there's one person that said that he had lethal levels in the system, one of the corners. But you don't know what lethal levels are for his system. Okay, I was at Burning Man. Every person there is on lethal levels of drugs. They're not dying. This is also a user of the drug. So he might have a higher tolerance, okay? And I was trying to make this point on flagrant. I don't know if I did it that well, but basically, now all of a sudden, when something's in your system, that's the only thing that kills you. Because during COVID, the same exact people were saying that bodies were over-reported, right? They'd be like, just because you're old and you have COVID doesn't mean you died of COVID. Just because you're in a car accident and you have COVID doesn't mean you died of COVID, right? But now when there's a little fence in all the system, that's the only thing that could have killed you, right? The guy had an enlarged heart and most importantly, another person put pressure on his body, called his neck, called his back, it doesn't matter. While his lungs are on the ground, restricted his breathing by putting pressure on his body. Okay? Was he choking him out in that MMA way? No. But was he putting pressure on his body to restrict? No, he had his knee in his neck. That's why he died. He died because his disc got crushed. That's autopsy, he said. No, forget the doc.  Cardiopulmonary arrest is what they called it. Yeah, because of the pressure that was on his neck.   I think that happened to him for eight minutes and you just don't come back up. And he had an enlarged heart so he can't already pump the oxygen through his body that he needs. Either way, the cops killed him. Yeah, 100%. And for anybody to go out of their way and try to disprove that the cop didn't kill him when we watched it with our eyes. Well, what it was is...  Well, no, it's not only that, it's like there are people that are anti-black lives matter, right? And they see this as the start of black lives matter because it was, right? It was the reaction of this that blew up black lives matter. Now, the people that are upset at black lives matter, the organization have every right to be. Yeah, but you have a better case with that. You could do a whole doc. But you're asking people to be rational when they're not at all. By the way, George Floyd shouldn't have anything to do with this. You could literally say, hey... But it's fear and it's the movement because they're using his death to raise money. But it's because the cop killed him, the cops in jail for 70 plus years. And another interesting thing about... And the other cops displayed, one of the other cops displayed guilty this week, or last week. Oh, I didn't know that. But another interesting thing about Chauvin is if you look at what he was charged with because Mark went over the charges and the charges, after watching the Candace documentary, you wouldn't even dispute. They're not saying he premeditatedly looked and found him. It was involuntary manslaughter, murder in the third, and one other, one other one. But it's like, yeah, this is what happened.  That wasn't his first body, either, though. Interesting. Oh, no, no. He killed somebody in the line of duty before. Well, I mean, that is part of the job. I wouldn't... I don't know. I'd have to see what happened with the other situations as well.    What they did with that money is absolutely hysterical. Like hysterical. Spent two and a half million on like trans dancers. Makes the same impression, that I don't know if that's been proven, because she's... No, proven because the IRS reports where the money goes. So felt... I heard that stuff in the docket. I don't know, I haven't watched the doc, but I heard a lot of that stuff in the docket is liable. See, docs need to be... And that's why she... That's why, you know, remember Candice said last week, she might sue George Floyd's family for the distress that they're causing her over potentially suing her. It's weird.  Well, what's the larger play for the documentary? Like, okay, it's not... To make Black Lives Matter look bad. And they could have just done that. Black Lives Matter has given... There's enough things there with the Black Lives Matter organization where you could make a doc to show the fishiness of that organization.  That none of that means he should have been killed at the hands of the police. 100%. None of that means... And even if you do believe that he had fentanyl in his system, you definitely do not believe that the police have the right to kill a man because of that. That's right. And by the way, if that's the case, let's go to some of these white neighborhoods where the opioid epidemic is through the roof and these white kids is on meth all over the roof. Don't talk about my people. Let's go to some of these neighborhoods that just start taking people out and let's see if people say things like, oh, what they deserve?  Oh, they deserve it.  Come on, man. We know what this is and that's exactly why they have a Black Lives Matter movement. Yes. Not the organization. The movement. Yeah. Right? Yeah. But as far as the Kanye thing, man, I'll say it again, anti-Black rhetoric, anti-Semitic rhetoric. People are upset that people haven't been speaking out about the anti-Black rhetoric. I just think it's wild to blame other people for not standing up for us. If we would have raised hell like other folks and we would have held Kanye accountable, then some of those corporations might have moved the same way. That's a fact. You know? Who knows? But by the way, we'll never know. No, because you do it, not only we didn't do it and people are still defending him now. Everybody, he's a grown-ass man. He got to deal with the consequences of his actions. Kanye West don't need nobody coming to his defense. Do you think? You know what Kanye West needs? Healing.  I don't know if his dick is that enormous, bro. I don't think he got nothing on Medi Petey, bro. You don't? No, dude. I don't think. You know why? Because we ain't heard it in the streets, bro. Kanye been out here a long time. How long Kanye been out here, bro? I think he's been out a while, bro. Kanye been out a couple of decades, bro. Kanye had to meet, if Kanye had to meet easy, we would know, bro.  Salute to Tesla Figueroa. Tesla Figueroa coined the term Medi Petey when it comes to Pete Davidson. I don't think Yeezy got it. You don't think Yeezy got it? I don't think he got it, bro. He's claimed it. He claimed it all in college. Dropout. He's saying he got the biggest. Insect. What was it? You don't listen to lyrics, Chris? Now, all of a sudden, you can remember this. I said college dropout was the last one. What was it? Something about insects in Texas.  Last call. It was on last call. Somebody can go find it.  Yeah, in Texas, though.  Everything is bigger in Texas.   Yeezy. Yeezy. Yeezy. Yeezy. Yeezy. Yeezy. I really do hope. I don't know how this ends, man. How do you think this ends, man? Oh, man. Crazy. Yeah, no. I don't know. I think that he's... I think Kanye is entertaining enough where he can keep talking and people keep listening. And then I don't know if he'll get backing to do his own thing. He might have to put his own money up for it. And the problem with him putting his own money up for it is that a guy like Kanye who's like a true creative, what makes him great at being creative is what makes him bad at business. And that's why he needs to partner with these companies to be successful. The things that he does by his own, by himself, are not successful. The things that he does with other people who are businessmen are because the businessmen get to step in and they go, hey, Lunatic, you just made us make 100 different sneakers. Now you're saying... Now you're saying you don't like any of them. Too bad, we're gonna put some of these out. You know? So that's the thing. I think he's gonna be part of the conversation for the rest of my life, unfortunately. Better for worse. I just don't know who will give him the money and who will create the infrastructure. And if he does go on his own with Yeezy, it will have to be literally... Bruh. We're talking... All jokes aside, everything y'all talking about is like 10 years, 15 years down the line. Like these one of those kind of messages that it takes that long to clean up.  Like... What Yeezy? Like his brand. Bro, there is no Yeezy. What Yeezy? Adidas has stopped production. Only thing I hope is that those slides don't become a symbol of hate. Oh, no, those are the mess. That's the new Maggahad. Don't please, man. That's the new Maggahad.  I don't want to wear crops. That's how Republicans felt with that Maggahad. It was a great heart. That she wasn't fired. No, dude. Yeah, you're crazy right now. The Maggahad wasn't fired. The design was simple. The color was too bright red. The text and font was garbage. It was cheap. Yeah, that's what it didn't look like. Show what you're lying to yourself, bro. You know what?  Why nobody? We need Kanye to talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me tell you something, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I go back and I'll watch that Drink Champs episode where Kanye was like, you know, and Charlamagne got on the air and said, you know. Why are you talking about another man's me? He said it so calm.   He said it like, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Yo, can I tell you something? One of the funniest things he said in the Lex interview because this motherfucker's funny, bro. I don't care. He goes, he goes, he goes, listen. I knew that Kim could never love Pete. I knew that. Oh, but he's white. No, no, no. He goes, I knew that Kim could never love Pete. And it's not because he's ugly. It's because she likes black guys. Now, throwing in the, it's not because he's ugly.  I saw that clip on the academic page and it made zero sense to me. And I'll tell you why it made zero sense to me. It made zero sense because he named... It's not because he's ugly. It's because she likes black guys. This is how you know Kanye West wants to be white. This is how you know Kanye West wants to be white. I saw this on the academic page. He goes, Kim got it tight. Ray J. Ray J. Me. Oh, none of y'all look alike.  No, none of them look like, then he goes, like me, I got it tight.   You don't think they look similar? Yeah, definitely. I agree with you. Come on, man. They look like, they look like... Nothing alike at all. They look like before. Nothing at all. Totally. Like Kanye is before. He's the white. Totally different. Different. Right? And then Ray J. is the middle. Bring up Ray J. Kanye. And then Reggie Bush is the after. And side-by-side pictures. They don't look nothing alike. I agree with you. They look like before. I've been saying that. Working out after about a year. And then... You're describing... You're describing the same person. Before and after pics are the same person. Ha. Ah! What'd I say? What'd I say? There you go. They don't look nothing alike. Before, a middle and after picture. It's like, that would be the same person. Kanye looks like... Okay, I got it. I got it. Kanye looks like a Kardashian before surgery. And Reggie Bush looks like a Kardashian after surgery. Right? Well, Reggie Bush is a good shame. Yes! That's what I'm saying! He's a good-looking guy, right? Reggie Bush. Yeah. He's a different league. What? Texas Dickhead? Yeah. Chris, whatever the fuck? Insect Dick? Whatever you said. You think he got the monster, though? Yeah, the other lyric was, the lyric was, I have a buzz bigger than insects in Texas.  Okay, sorry, Kanye. Yeah. And then also, the charges were second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. You know, if we're Derek Chalvin? Yeah. Man. Let's pay some bills. I'm tired of talking about Kanye, man. Yeah, me too. All right, guys. We're going to take a break for a second. This is brought to you by Squarespace, okay?  You do not have a business. Online is the marketplace these days. It validates everything that you have going on. 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Thank you guys so much for the support. Thank you for spreading the word. What about you, Charles? What you got? Same thing, man. Hell of a week every Thursday night at 11.30 p.m. on Comedy Central, man. We just keep getting better and better every week, man. Cultural institution. Cultural institution building one episode at a time. How many more apps you got in the season? I think we're done right before Christmas. Oh, so you're going all the way through? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we got extended... I think we got extended after episode 8. I remember you told me they got the extension, but you weren't sure. Yeah, we got extended after episode 8. And so, yeah, we're there until the end of the year, because I know Trevor's last day is the 8th, so I think we might be the next week. Trevor's last day is December 8th. I think we're December 15th or whatever that is. The very next week. That's cool. And then we'll be back the top of the year. What have you seen have the most success from the show? Were there any parts of the show that you think have done really well? Man, it's interesting, man, because it's just like anything else that we do, right? It's just about the conversations, things like a lot of the panel conversations, the interview. It's literally the same thing as doing a panel. Is it the one-on-ones? One-on-ones go viral? Yeah, like both. Last week, stuff from the Stephen A. Smith clip went viral when he said he wanted Will Smith to play him prior to the slap. You know? But now he don't want Will Smith to play him because of the slap.  Like, you know what I mean? He said he had one effective week with black people. That's been a talking point for a few weeks. A lot of stuff, man. The Michael Cohen, we had Michael Cohen last week, Trump's former attorney, and just me talking about stuff. Like, when I do my act four and I'm just up there by myself, Fox News went crazy with the Hunter Biden thing when I was saying how President Biden didn't have that same energy and compassion for all those people that he got locked up in the 80s and 90s. You know, with Hunter and Crack, it was compassion and empathy, and he's fighting his addiction, but it was lock him up. Lock him up in the 80s and 90s. Just a little bit of everything. Good things to focus on, seeing what is resonating, because I think it's so hard to tell what resonates through TV, because most people are consuming content at their own time, so it's a cool thing to look at and be like, oh, wow, when I'm just talking straight to the camera, that's going viral. Okay, should we bring that up earlier in the show?  I start the show the way I end the show. It was just me talking straight to the camera for a few minutes, then we bring the panel on. The panel's on there for the next two acts and the one-on-one guests. The whoopee thing went crazy viral. It seems like those one-on-ones are... I mean, that's part of your genius zone. You're a great interviewer, and you can elicit information that people want to indulge in from your guests. Yeah, for me, I don't know. That's how I always look at those shows. Obviously with yours, I pay more closer attention to what's in constant parts of it. Be viral. I'm going, okay, there's something here. Absolutely. Put the finger on that. Absolutely. So, what's happening? I appreciate it. That's it. Let's get back to the show. I salute the van. I just saw a van post this and improved my point when I was talking about van posting this video. It says, for anyone wondering why it took anti-Semitism for Kanye to be dropped by Adidas this video is from June 2018. And this video who told me personally how lost Kanye was, they were less mad when the invitation came.  Big Sean is in that video as well, right? But they're having a good old time with you. It's unconditional love. Thank you. I'm so excited. Thank you. Thank you, family. Hip-hop is the first art form created by free black men.  There's nothing wrong with that. But you can't have it both ways. You can't stay. This is right after the month after slavery was a choice. So who held him accountable for that? Nobody. They're all in Wyoming. That's they're all in Wyoming. That's my point. Like nobody held Yaya accountable. So I'm not looking for to stand up and speak out for blackness and black issues. We got to hold each other accountable. Simple as that. Because trust and believe, they do. Those other communities definitely do. They hold their own accountable. So we got to do the same. This is a crazy story. New York City man arrested for fatally stabbing person who didn't say thank you after holding the door. A New York City man has been arrested after allegedly fatally stabbing a man. Taylor Wood put the picture right over what I'm reading. A New York City man has been arrested after allegedly fatally stabbing a man who confronted him for not saying thank you. That's all it was about. He opened the door for the guy. The guy didn't say thank you. So the person who opened the door said the least you could do is say thank you. The guy goes, I didn't ask you to open the door. They both getting into an argument dispute. The guy who said thank you ends up stabbing the guy. That's crazy. I didn't ask you to open the door. That's crazy. Whether you asked me or not, I did it, motherfucker. I don't owe you a thank you. It's so New York though.   I say you're welcome. That's rude.  I'm going to tell you something else.  You don't know what kind of day I'm up for. Who got stabbed here? The guy who held the door. The guy who held the door got killed. I'm never open the door. The guy who held the door got killed. By the way, that you're welcome can be you hold the door for somebody. They don't say thank you. You're welcome.   I mean you're welcome. I hope I open the door for you. No, no, no, no. Say it with the bass you said it before. You're welcome. All right. Now you tussling. You know what I'm saying? Now you in a person tussling. My thing is this. If you are going to do something for somebody don't expect nothing in return, man. You know what I mean? Yes. Common courtesy, somebody should say thank you. But open the door because you're just a nice person.  You know what I mean? No, I say thank you, bro. Yes, that would be good in a good, a perfect world. But this ain't a perfect world. You know the only people I tell to say thank you is my kids. Like when somebody does something nice for my kids, I do something for my kids. Like, you know, maybe like, hey, can I get this? Can I get that? What do you say? They say thank you.  Why are you watching this? That's terrifying. Okay, let's introduce Steve. Steve is a former NYPD police officer. So the guy that comes in with the white, right? He's arguing with the other guy with the black outfit. Who held the door? The guy with the white shirt held the door. He pushes him. Oh, wow. As he runs out, he tries to run out. The guy with the white shirt follows him. He's trying to get on his bike to leave. He rushes him again. That's when he gets stabbed. Oh, so the white shirt got followed him out. You'll see it now. They show the second part of that. They don't show it. I have the clip to that. I'll show you guys the second clip. So the guy runs away, tries to get on the bike. The other guy chases him out. So then he stabs him. I gave the wrong guy donkey today. I wanted his thank you. You got to take that back tomorrow. I gave the guy who got killed. No, I gave the guy who stabbed him donkey today. But that was really in self-defense. I didn't know. I didn't watch the video.  Damn, bro. Damn, man. Shit. Be like that sometimes, bro. Be like that sometimes, man. It really do be like that. By the way, if you start a fight with a guy after holding the door for him, how hospitable are you? You know what I mean? Why would you start to fight with a guy like that? Over him not saying thank you. No, I like that energy. Because you're from New York.  If I take something out of my day to help you, the least you could do is say thank you. What else we got, Taylor? Let's see here. No. Taylor said you want to talk about an elite chopper's meat. Taylor said you want to talk about more dick.  Dick segment.  What up? This is so funny. Glorilla responds to little Duvall making fun of her name. Duvall said nobody born after 2000 should be named Brenda, Linda, or Gloria. And Glorilla took that to heart and said nobody over the age of 45 shouldn't still have little in their name. I think points were made on both sides. But then Duvall goes, but I'm Lil. But she can say, but I'm Gloria. Yeah.  She didn't pick it. Just like Duvall didn't pick his size. But she picked Glorilla. This was God's plan. Neither one of them. Yeah, but rappers changed their names. Her name is Glorilla, not Gorilla. I said Glorilla. Gloria. That was crazy.  It's Glorilla. I didn't know that. Sorry, Glorilla. It's Glorilla. You were calling her something else? I was calling her Gorilla.   Salute to her. She on her way. Memphis native Glorilla. Gloria. Hallelujah Woods. That's a fire name. I don't know what you talking about. Did you see Black Adam? No. I'm committed to hating DC. What do you mean?   I like The Rock too, but not enough to go see Black Adam. Now listen, I will go see... And Mo Amher's in it too. They used to do the podcast with Neil, right? No, no, no. Mo is a... Comedian? He's got the show Mo on Netflix. I'm a way to Black Adam come to the HBO Max on some streaming service. Fair enough. It'll be on there soon. What else, Taylor? Maybe do some Asking Idiots, Taylor? Hey, let's do Asking Idiots. Drinking 21 Savage. Got an album coming out Friday. I can't wait to hear that. I really don't...  So I can't wait to hear that. Pull it up, Taylor gang. Pull it up, Taylor. Back it up, Tay. Back it up. What we got? What we got? Uh... Ooh. ABG underscore main code said what's the best business move you've ever made? The best business move I've ever made. Mm-hmm. That was the question? Yeah. A buying back to special. Without a doubt. No question. No question. Also the most risky. Also the most dangerous. But also the most lucrative. But by far the most lucrative. The most lucrative move I've ever made. I don't know. But that is how the most lucrative moves are the ones that are often the most risky. Some people get lucky by just like having a small percentage in a company that eventually blows up. Yeah. But if you want to go all in on something the reward of that is, you know... Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, right?  Yeah. So that's when you know if it's a good business move. You know what I mean? Yeah. So some of your seeds might be planted right now. They're planted. That's right. That's right. So the ROIs have yet to come in, but it's looking good. I would bet on me. So until that... So instead of that, what would you say the best business move was, man? It depends, man. Is there a breakfast club thing, decision that you made that ended up...  Yeah, probably. No, for me probably Williams without a paycheck. Yeah.  How did you eat? What did you do for food? Sometimes I didn't, you know? And... Yeah. And I just started meeting girls. Oh, you a munch, bro? I was a munch for lunch, bro. I know you was a munch like that, bro. Sometimes you got a munch for lunch, bro. Sometimes you got a munch for lunch, bro. You got to bring your munchbox to work, bro. Sometimes you got a munch for lunch. That's right. That's right, man. Do you think... Oh, this is good. Come on. Duffy17 says, do you think that women in comedy are as respected as male comics, if not, why? They're not as respected, and that's because they're not funny. That's his opinion? And he got to deal with the smoke of his opinion? I'm just saying, do I think women are not as respected in comedy? I don't think they are. I think that's because women as fans are not as big comedy fans. So in the same way the WNBA, you know what I mean? It's like, if women really value stand-up comedy and the female voices in stand-up comedy, then they would put them on the pedestal in the same way that they put other creative women on the pedestal and speak about them in that way. There have been women that are incredibly respected and people love. They're incredibly talented. But at the end of the day, if they're speaking to the female condition, it's up to women to say if they're speaking to that condition in a way that should be on Mount Rushmore. It's not up to guys. It's not a bunch of guys going, yeah, that woman knows women really well.  I got a few women that I put up there though. Joan. Joan Rivers. Some more for me. I think some more is phenomenal. Black female comics. Adele Givens. I think they're far more respected. I think maybe black women are more interested in stand-up and black men will definitely go support black female stand-ups more than white people are supporting white female stand-ups. It was a normal thing. I came up in the black circuit a bit as well. It was a normal thing to go see us some more. It wasn't like, oh, that's a girl comic. But we're also acting like the black comics that pop have a big white fan base. It's only a few that have big white fan base. You know what I mean? The spells, the rocks, maybe cat? Kevin. Definitely Kevin. Kevin got such a white fan base. I forgot. He's not being black. I can't wait until his new set comes out though. His new set is great. Rest in Peace to Kevin's Pops too, man. I think it's very cool to immortalize somebody that's that important in your life. Because so many people know Kevin's father that never had met Kevin's father. Because of the stand-up. You know what I mean? Because of the stand-up. The jokes that he said about his dad in the special. About the stories he's told about his dad in the special. It's interesting. How his set is going to be now because when I saw him at the garden a few months ago and I haven't spoken to him just because you send your condolences and send flowers and stuff and give people their time but it's like his new set has a lot of his dad in it but it's about his dad's health fading. You know what I'm saying? So I wonder how much that changes your set as a comedy. Because people haven't even seen that yet. That's an hour that he's been working on in the reality check hour for the past year and some change. But a large part of it I guess you know, I see how you can change it and not that I think about it. All you have to do is talk about the fact his father passed away and how his father was in his last days. Oh yeah, easy fix. Yeah, you can switch some stuff up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Healing energy.  What instantly ruins a movie for you? Easy. When motherfuckers tell me about it. Yeah, they give you the ending of it. Yeah, yeah. What is this? Ain't no way, bro. Ain't no way. Ain't no way, bro. There's just no way it's real. There's no way it's real. I don't know if this is real. Just Fabio Foran's real page. There's no way. Somebody just sent me a screenshot that says Fabio stands with Jewish people. Spelled. J-U-W-E-S-H. Fabio stands with Jewish people. No cap. J-U-W-E-S-H. Come on, man. Oh, really? Had. What Chris said? That's the original Hebrew spelling? Alright, let's do Chris Roberts in 34, man. Let's get up out of here. Uh... How long do you think you would last in? Scroll that down, Taylor. Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, fingers too thick. How long do you think you would last in the Game of Thrones of the Dragon's World? How long do I think I would last? Hella? Hella long? I don't even know if you've ever seen it. Oh, you gotta watch it. It's great. Why do you think you'd last long? That's what I heard. That's what I heard. That's what I heard. It'd be great, man.  Men give birth when... No, the women do, but it's hard, bro. I think it got easier since then. Really? You think?  What? Was it easy watching your wife give birth? Hell no.  Why do you think it's so high? I have no idea, but I know that... Well, I do have some ideas. I think it's because people think black women have a higher tolerance for pain. Like, with our third daughter, literally, they didn't have any epic girls available. And, like... What do you mean? Where'd you... Where'd you do it at? Think about that. I was already up. My third daughter. Were you in Anguilla or something? No, we was in Jersey. In New Jersey. That's what I'm saying. And I was up. It's my third daughter. This was 2018. You know what I'm saying? They didn't have any epic girls. The nurse was just like... The doctor was like, the head's right there. You just push it out. You know what I'm saying? And then after that, it was so much blood.   Everything isn't okay until it's okay. You know what I mean? And it's just like a high level of like... From the time that water breaks to whole... Well, no. Before the water breaks. When the contractions start. And you realize, okay, it might be time. It might be time. Like, oh, water broke. Man, bro.  Intense. He's in a baby out. God willing. God willing. What do you mean, God willing? God willing. If I have children, I'll be able to... You guys, you have a few. I know. But I have to... I don't think it's one of those things you take for granted. Oh, no, no, you're right. You're absolutely right. Okay, Taylor. You see the mic? Boom. Boom.       Tay. One wave. Okay, shut my head, Dresden. Tasha, Goddiva Trashes. She's amazing. No, but this is for Halloween's sake. I saw this question. You all both watch scary movies, right? Yeah. No. I don't think you've seen it. So you've never seen like Saw or... I think I might have saw it before. If you want to see a Fire Horror movie, it's called X by a director named Ty West. He has a new movie out right now called Pearl, but that this movie... It's scary, but it's also like beautifully done, and it is Fire. Like, he's like a real filmmaker, and watch it, watch it. Yes, watch it. X, it's called. All right, so what do you think... Or who do you think you will survive? Saw? The movie. Freddie. Jason or Mike Myers?  Yeah, but Saw, you can't win. You might. No, because aren't the things set up where... They are, but is this just sacrificing your arms and legs?    But Jason and Mike Myers can get smoked.  That's what nobody ever tried in those films.  I went to sleep on purpose. What's happening? I've been waiting for you. I've been waiting for you, Freddie. Okay, Jason, I know why you so stiff. You know what I mean? Michael, I know what you really want stabbed. Okay? I know what you really want to stab, Michael. He did used to interrupt. He used to kill people when they had sex, too, Mike Myers. I think he was upset about it. There's a couple in the last one. Did he? Yeah, I didn't think it was homophobic. I thought it was equality. That's right. Diversity in a horror movie means somebody's getting killed. That's true. What are we talking about? If you're going to have diversity in a horror movie, Michael Myers has to kill the person. And I remember they made a thing about that. They were like, oh, that's homophobic. That is not homophobic. That's equality. That's diversity. That's not even in horror movies. Not anymore. Yeah, definitely not anymore. But initially. They got rid of that stereotype. But why? That's a great question. I don't know. I don't know because why are we in the scare movies anyway?  Yeah. I think they killed them first because black lives don't matter, bro. Whoa. Yeah. That's the character though. It's mad black people in Texas. But they're not going to... J.Saw, Massacul, Starring, Trader Truth will be fired. You know what I mean? Did y'all see the Ludacris one with Queen Latifa? Which one? Y'all didn't see that movie? It's not good.  No, I thought y'all were going to see House of America. No, no, no. You see that movie?  Yo, have y'all seen... Yeah, have you seen... Yo, have you seen Cogniz dick? Have you seen Cogniz dick? It ain't biggest piece. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right.   Thank you for listening.