103.9 FM, WZO Radio, Knoxville. Ladies and gentlemen, Digital Freethought Radio Hour. Hello and welcome to the Digital Freethought Radio Hour on WZO Radio 103.9 LPFM right here in Knoxville, Tennessee, Sunday, today is Sunday, March 28, 2021, and I'm Larry Rhodes here at Doubter 5, and as usual, we have a co-host, Wombat on the line with us. Hello, Wombat. Okay, a lot of rain out there, that's for sure. Didn't know you were a witch, though. Our guests today are Doubt Fire and Boudreaux and George, Brooklyn, and Dreadfire at Higgs, and all. A Digital Freethought Radio Hour is a talk radio show about atheism, freethought, rational thought, humanism, and the sciences, and conversely, we'll also talk about religion, religious faith, God's holy books, and superstition. And if you get the feeling that you're the only non-believer in Knoxville, well, you're just not. There are several atheists freethinking in rationalist groups that exist right here in Knoxville, and we'll be telling you how you can connect with them right after the mid-show break. Also, did you know that there was a streaming atheist call-in video show broadcasting here in Knoxville?  Ty, did you know that? I love it. I don't know if it's technically a musical, but I do like it. My favorite part is when the lion gets courage and the pin-bang gets a heart, because it's like the best thing possible, because everyone needs a little bit of a heart and a little bit of courage. That's all you need. If I only had a brain. Yes. So, was that a musical? We have brands. We have brands on our show. Yeah. He doesn't have a nervous system in here. He has. It's amazing. Yeah. We'll tell you more about how you can connect with the show right after the mid-show break. Also, if you'd like to interact with us during the show, go to Facebook and search for a digital free thought radio, our Facebook page. Use the messaging function to send us questions or comments. Wombat, what's our topic for today? We're talking about sipping loudly in cups today. It's going to be a really, really great hour-long discussion where we're just slowly slipping, sipping into the microphone. Everyone get it out. Yeah. Nice trick. Yeah. Welcome to the ASMR podcast, APS Podcast. We're talking about karma today. And before we get into the meat and potatoes of karma, I'm going to throw it up to our own Dreadpower Higgs for our weekly invocation. Hello. What's your name, Captain? I shall not warrant. He may give me to float in salt water. He steereth me through glassy seas. He filleth me bowl. He steereth me through the straits of newliness for goodness sake. I, though I sail through the heaving of tempestuous waters, I will not fear not sinking for an hour with me. I must, and I ready, rather, they comfort me. They'll preparest a feast before me in the presence of new mates. I'll quencheth my thirst with grog. orazhey, you've grown to God whith me and struggled It's over. poz tested grog she'll abide with me all the days of me life and I will shelled well in the galley of our classroom forever. Ram may I want to do a quick review on how everyone's been over the last week Dawg. Dub shine. Igottoremember. Use your full name here. But Dub shine. again over the last week, actually a couple of times. You mind telling me about it? Because it was pretty cool. Oh, cool, man. Yeah, it's a remix album. So it's just taken a few of the tracks off my album, the Collapse Reality. And it's just remixing it for the DJs. So I sent about 400 plus DJs the remix so they can play it on their internet shows and radio shows and stuff like that. Yeah, it's like real vibe-y, real. It is. It stood it out. Yeah. It's clean. That's what I get the vibe from. It's like it's very, very clean. If you remember, so this is my personal take. If you were ever in high school when I was in high school and Den Stenz Revolution never came out, it was just like clean track after clean track after clean track, just like this electronic, but not about crunch or synth, just about clean, precision beats and a clear vibe from beginning to end. And I really, really liked it. I'm glad you liked it. Eric, it's good to see you. How you been since last week? I have been good. I gave my garage a complete overhaul. OK, that was needed. That was fun. It's cathartic. OK. Yeah. Are you getting more into the whole being outside, spring cleaning sort of thing now that COVID's over? Or is that the cathartic part? Or for, I wouldn't say over, but like, vaccinate, post-vaccination. No, I mean, now, month and a half after the second shot and just feeling a lot more open and willing to do things, especially outside, playing some volleyball outside. Nice. Yeah. Eating restaurants, just opening up slowly more, but still conscious, still caring about people that aren't vaccinated or can't get it for whatever reason. I would say this. I'm a little wary about going to a restaurant myself still, but I am planning on doing a picnic with some friends. I think that'll be kind of fun, yeah? Yeah, especially with the weather out like this. Not so rainy, but when it is out and about, it's really nice. George Brown, how have you been since last week? The last week in my mind is a blur. I can't remember anything except. You're lovin' crazy, that's the problem. Yeah, here halfway between Knoxville and Chattanooga out in the boonies, I've noticed, I went for a walk in the city park and the health department was vaccinating a lot of people. Thanks. Like the number of people being vaccinated has exploded. Good, that's a good thing. And the age range is lower, of course. And I got my second shot three weeks ago and I did have a reaction to it. I won't get into the specifics right now. I would even say that's a good thing too. It's good to have a reaction to vaccines. That's showing that it's working, your body recognizes the problem and is going through the set to fix it without actually having the disease. That's a good sign. And I'm seeing, you know, if I go into the store, it's the same pattern, the old people are wearing masks and the younger people, a lot of them are not. You know, and I don't know how to interpret that exactly. I don't know.  Just letting you know. Did I point?  It's just like all these old people in the grocery stores, they're coughing in my face. I can't wait to tell them. I can't wait to tell them. I got younger people who are coughing. I want to do the coughing. It's my turn. Jared Pirate, how have you been since last week? Just checking in on you.  It looks like until the summer. So come to the US, please. I'm glad you guys are all getting vaccinated. But yeah, I know my mom, she's 75. She only just got her first shot a couple of days ago in preparation for surgery. So yeah, but other than that, I'm doing good. I'm getting lots of work down on the coast there. And I just had contact with the administrator for the local college here. If you recall, I was setting up a critical thinking course. Right. And unfortunately I had only received one, while they had really mislabeled it. So I had only had one person sign up, but she asked me if I was now interested in doing maybe a teaser course. And so I thought of a couple of things, one of which is doing a dowsing demonstration like Richard Dawkins did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there are a lot of local people here who do dowsing and believe in dowsing. And I think it would be a great opportunity to get some people out and do this double blind demonstration of the efficacy of dowsing.  You bury that and you say, hey, dowsing rod's pointing here, there's a magnet at the tip of the rod, magnet underneath the paper. You can make this work, Dread Pirate. We can make it work for you. Yeah, awesome.  My, what, what?  Oh, she's about five hours away. So she's out in Maple Ridge, which is just a little closer to the coast. Cool. Larry, how you doing since last week? Doing fine, just staying in and staying safe. Got my second shot a couple of weeks ago, did have reaction to it, had a full day of flu-like symptoms. Waiting for the weather to warm up so I could get my motorcycle back out. Nice. Started riding. Nice. Won't be long now. Dogwoods are gonna bloom here in a week or two and that'll be real nice. Are you getting the same rain that we're getting? Yeah, that's terrible. We got a lot of rain last night and it's taking a break right now, but I think it's coming back. Oh yeah, definitely.  Like, Thursday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, you're like, oh my gosh, this weather's so great. Let's plan a picnic, let's have fun, let's go skating, this is gonna be amazing. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, torrential rains, thunderstorms. You're like, what are you doing? Is this the cosmos punishing me for bad things I've done in the past, maybe? Yeah, could you be interested? I mean, and what is it? Injecting the topic at this point? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm thinking, we're gonna talk about karma today, but it will also be nice to talk about what we mean when we say karma because there's a lot of different understandings of it. And I find that to be one of the points that needles me when people mention karma as a thing. But I don't wanna bias the conversation, I would like to understand what people mean when they say karma. So round table, Scott, if you have an impression of karma, why don't you give me a definition of it? And before you do, George Brown, think of a definition of karma. So that one, you're like, hey, I got something, I got something. So Scott, what do you got? What's your definition of karma? Yeah, so I'll be, I'll try to be as quick as I can, but I wanna kind of let the audience know that there's different, of course, we're already talking about different definitions of karma. And so there's a more traditional where it originated from. So there's two kinds, they're Sanchita karma and Prarabdha karma. And I learned this from listening to a guy named Saad Guru. I don't know if anyone's familiar with this guy, but he's like a yogi. And he talks about how the West has kind of bastardized the definition of karma that means some sort of supernatural type of thing, which is different from the yogic or Hindu traditions of karma. So his whole thing is that karma is simply about information. This is information that's kind of similar in terms to what we call software. So there's a certain amount of life energy that is charged with a certain amount of information. And this sort of becomes, this causes a certain kind of character that you are because of this type of information that's gone into you from, so from the moment you're born to this very moment that you're living now, the kind of family, home, friends, the things you did or did not do, all these things are influencing you. Every thought, emotion, action comes only from past impressions that happened within you. But then there's different types of karma. There's Sanjita karma, which is a warehouse of karma, which goes right back to a single-celled animal and even inanimate substances from where life evolved from. So all information is there within you. So it's kind of like a warehouse of information going back into different life forms and creation or whatever you want to call it. So this is your Sanjita karma, but you cannot take your warehouse and do retail business with it. You need to have a shop to do retail. And that retail shop, which is for this life is called Parabda karma. And so that's about a certain amount of information allotted for this life. So depending on the vibrancy of your life, it allows how much information it can take on. So the creation is very compassionate, for example. If it gives you a whole lot of karma that you have, you would be dead. Right now, many people are tortured by simple memories from like 30 to 40 years ago that they've kind of accumulated through their life. It's kind of like if you were given like a hundred times that memory, you would not survive it. So nature allots Parabda or an allotted memory that you could handle. I'll just know what... Yeah, could you condense that? What does it mean specifically just to you then? Like, I don't doubt that there's many different definitions of it that we can find on the internet. But when I say karma, what does it speak to you in like a...  So if I was to take that on seriously, I would just say it's just what you were... It's kind of like the cause and effect of your life. Like, different causes cause you to be a certain way.  And it's kind of like a drop in the ocean that... You're making ripples. And there's more ripples under the surface even if you can't see them, right? That's right. So that's what karma is to me. It's just cause and effect that extends beyond my mortal coil. It sounds like most of this, you're saying it's just the environment, more or less. Right. That you're in. And that's what Sai Guru says. It's just your life and how you affect the environment vice versa. That's all that really means. I'm gonna take that. I'm willing to go the next couple of extra steps. I think I've heard the case and we'll go to Eric next, but like the idea of karma being an actual force that corrects injustices, that says, Hey, if you are being out of your way, me and to people, we're gonna, me as this corporation or agent or force, I'm gonna find a way to get me back at you cause I need to balance out all the good and the bad in the universe. Eric, have you heard anything like that? Yeah, no, that's your take. That's a little more of the traditional or the more familiar take that I was thinking. I thought the show would be based on that. I guess to me there are two types that are commonly talked about.  But I think the one that really strikes true in kind of conversation is what I like to call what people call instant karma.  It happens the next day. The weather turns or you stub your toe or, so if you do bad things, yeah, there's this force correcting the world to get you to do better things, which I would love for this thing to actually exist because- I would love for this to exist. We should talk about that in the second half of the show. I have some objections to that. If this force actually existed and it had been running for hundreds of thousands of years, I bet everyone would be a really good person. Well, based on what standard, that's what I'd like to know. And instead of punishing me, just tell me the standard to be good and I can follow that. Don't just keep punishing me blindly while I trial and error figure this out. Just have the list. If you are a force just to communicate to me, this is a bad thing. This is a good thing. Do these things and you'll be okay. I'll be like, okay, fine. Now I know. It seems like you're personifying it though. I think if it worked just like evolution where it's not, it doesn't have a goal in mind and agenda. It's just, oh, this didn't work. Let me course correct, course correct, course. And if you just keep course correcting, it doesn't really matter what the goal is. It's just, you know, people would be better, I would think. Okay, okay. I'm gonna keep beatling Eric for just a little bit, but I wanna talk more about this in a second off the show. Eric, evolution is one of the worst judges or heartless things in the universe. There's just so many branches of unsuccessful living organisms that just die just because they're a little too blue or they're a little too tall or a little too heavy or they didn't make enough feathers. Evolution doesn't care about people. Evolution doesn't care about humanity. I want a system that if it is gonna guide towards people being nicer, so they have an interest in humanity or empathy or respect or like anti-racism, these would all be great things. I wouldn't wanna force as blind as evolution to control that. Are you saying Karma has no agency in this whatsoever? It's just nothing but counterweights moving up and down on ropes? I guess what I'm saying is if it worked like evolution, then I guess I disagree. I think evolution got us here. So it's maybe not the most efficient thing in the world, but the fact that we are here, we evolved the things that worked were successful. So if that same thing was true for, again, you have to factor time in here. I mean, if Karma worked over billions and billions of years, I guarantee there would be, but again, if we can't... No, that's so fascinating. This is great. This is great. We can't give agency to it because then we're now we're talking about something spooky and magical like having it anti-racist that like who would pick all this, right? Who's gonna be the judge of all of it? Where's the standard? Right, right, right. I love this. We gotta come back to it for sure, but I wanna make sure everybody gets a chance to weigh in. Dred Pirate, would you mind talking to me about Karma? What do you think it is? What does it speak to you? Well, the most common form I hear is essentially a balance sheet in the universe. And I think unfortunately what happens is people conflate luck in Karma. So Karma is just essentially luck with agency in it. You know what I mean? So I certainly don't hold that Karma exists because again, it's in my definition anyway that there's someone keeping an eye on this balance sheet and making sure that over time, justice is mitted out to the people that deserve it or don't. Now, when you say that, do you phrasing it in the form of luck? Are you saying luck is also happening naturally or is this force also introducing luck into people's lives? Well, I just think luck is luck. I mean, coincidence has happened.  So Karma's not responsible for luck. Karma just punishes the bad to make sure it balances out with luck that naturally occurs. Well, I hear people speak of, I did something wrong and I'm gonna have to build up my Karmic Bank account essentially. And so it's like that's a savings account that doing good needs predisposes the universe to treat you in a better way. And I think it's this sense of agency that people attribute to Karma or their actions that they think it's like going to the credit union, putting your card in the ATM to get some good Karma. You read, you're almost phrasing it like it's a mafia that's coming room to room and being like, hey, it would be a terrible thing if something happened to your car today. Why are you paying me with some good deeds? Cause otherwise we're gonna come and pay you a visit. That's right, you can find no horse head in your bed. Okay, that's very scary. We're gonna go, Larry, you're gonna get the final word, but we're gonna go to George Brown. George Brown, what do you think about Karma? What does it speak to you? Well, first of all, I don't believe in it. My view on Karma is very simplistic. I don't believe in it. But as I understand it, it's very childish almost. It's the reincarnation version, I guess, that if I step on a snail, I'm gonna come back as a snail. Mm.  You know, Donald Trump Hitler. I mean, this is gonna be interesting, but I don't believe in it. So it's all academic to me.  The funny thing is, I think Trump's already one of the lowest forms. I think someone did something terrible and came back as Trump. Larry, Larry, can I get a point of view on Karma for you? You get the final word. Yeah, I get the final word as it should be. Get the final word on our definitions. What is it? Yeah, no, any supernatural definition of Karma, I think it is false, of course. I don't believe in any supernatural entities at all. And I believe what George was saying about agency out there in the universe is, you know, with him, I'm in agreement, it's false.  And there is no punishment after life. We have to take care of the justice that has mitted out ourselves, among ourselves, to make sure that it's real and it happens. However, I think we can live in our own social bubble. Like on Facebook, we create an environment around ourselves with people that agree with us, people that like us, people that we work together with. And it's the same in real life. You can treat your neighbors good or you can treat them badly. You can make friends or create enemies during your life. And that creates the bubble around you that you live in. And that's a form of karma that pays you back during this life. Sometimes it's immediate and sometimes it's not. But I think that's the only form of real karma that exists. But of course, it does exist.  But that's about it. I do feel the what you put out in terms of vibes. So I'm not a believer in karma, but I am a believer in vibes. And what I mean by vibes is the attitude that I put out in display tends to be the one that's reciprocated back to me. And so the only reason why I'm having a good time with all of you guys right now is because I'm putting out, hey, I want to have a good time with you. I'll show you guys respect. I'll have a good time. I can guarantee you if I was a jerk, for I was more mean, I wouldn't have as many good friends on this call as I do right now. So what I'm putting out is what I tend to get put in. But I wouldn't call that karma. I just call that input-output, I-O. Like we already have terms like for that first stuff like that, tech, the computer tech guy Scott gives me a thumbs up. Yeah, that's a great analogy, actually. And that's exactly like when I was telling you, I was watching Saw Guru on YouTube. And he said, that's the real definition of karma, like traditionally from his conception. That's really what it means from that tradition. This whole supernatural sort of definition, number one, Saw Guru says it doesn't even make sense. And it's not even true, number two. And it's not even what is taught. And it's just a Western idea. Maybe it's kind of like a mix between Christianity and some sort of yogi tradition or whatever. He says that maybe brought that kind of idea, but it's very popular in the West. Oh yeah, definitely. That karma is this supernatural thing. So I think that comes from the same idea of, hey, I don't like the Christian idea of God. I don't like what's being sold here, but I still need to fill the God hole, right? And what fills that God hole? Well, here's this idea that like, hey, if I'm good at people, I'll be treated good. That's sort of like a more, a loose moral system I can put. And it fits perfectly in here.  And if I die, I can come back. Oh, that's perfect. We're just gonna put some cement on here and now smooth it out. And boom, I got a new, not a religion, but it is a religion and it's spiritual. It comes from the East. It's valid. George Brown, what do you think? Well, are we into the discussion now? We are about four minutes away from taking a break and then we'll roll. Okay, I wanna, well, considering that I'm here in the land of the evangelicals, I had a little discussion with another neighbor than the one I usually talk about, his brother, who laid, he laid a trip on that you tried to that if I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, I'm gonna go to heaven. So that to me sounds like there's no common bulb where this guy's coming from. No more L.O.V.E. either. Sounds like heaven's gonna be a really dangerous place to be sometimes. Yeah. I don't wanna go there.  I don't wanna rally too much, but maybe a future discussion would be like, do you actually wanna go to heaven? Cause I feel like our idea of what heaven is is not actually where we would wanna be. And I feel like there's some disconnect there. But, hey, we're coming down towards the half of the show. Larry, you wanna take us out and come right back? Sure. So this is the digital free thought radio hour on WOZO Radio 103.9 LP FM, right here in Knoxville, Tennessee. And we'll be right back after this short break. 103.9 FM, WOZO Radio, Knoxville. What are we talking about today, karma? We're talking about karma, but we're gonna quickly do some fan mail.  What a fan. What a mighty good fan. Fan. Brad, I feel bad for you. Let's share one more time.  What a mighty good fan. What a mighty good fan. Nice, nice, nice, nice. You guys can get excited about it now. It's spring. We're out of the winter. Let's get happy. So Patrick Madden says, have you guys ever considered moving this show to a podcast format? Y'all have a great format. Thank you, Patrick. We do have a podcast. It's on Spotify, iTunes, whatever have you, whatever your podcasting search is, search for Digital Freethought Radio Hour. That's the name of this radio broadcast as well as the name of the podcast. And I just take our live videos and put it up on my YouTube channel. Dada's Trading Room said, you guys were talking about Goosentite, or I'm sorry, you guys were saying about Bless You. How about Goosentite? In fact, in Nolan, in Port and Poland, we say, oh my gosh, na zwarde. Na zwarde. Which is just saying to health, which is often used on other occasions like a toast or before a podcast shot. And then there were a lot of other comments too, including from what we call life who says, why say anything after someone sneeze? You don't say something when someone else farts or burps, do you? I think that's a good question. Good point. I want to get back into the karma discussion. Eric, I have some hot topics for you. Hot topics for everyone else too, but we'll start with Eric. The idea of, do you want to live in a world where karma actually does exist? And if it was a system, not so much like evolution, but more like osmosis where there's just, hey, there's, I'm evening out particles so that there's reverse osmosis where there's like this distribution, fair distribution of particles across a certain, the realm of supernatural and reality, whatever you want to call it. There's a force at play that's making things balanced. It's like an entropi, it's like almost like an entropic force. And it's measurable and we can learn from it. And it's, if over a billion years would guide us towards what you believe is a better society, is what you say like, is that a world that you would want to live in compared to the one that we have now? What are the benefits? What are the disadvantages? I'd love to know. Pedro, what do you think? I think we have the prefaces. If we're going to talk about this, we have to admit we are talking about magic. Like, yeah. I wasn't talking about real. Okay, okay. I can't imagine a system that is based on physics that we know it as we know it, that would be beneficial. But if we were talking about a little bit of sprinkle, a little bit of magic in here. A little bit of magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got space. And if the only kind of rule that this thing operated on was just improving happiness, you know? Then it, or just adding more, less suffering. If it was less suffering. Less suffering. That's good. That was like the thing it operated on. Yes. I think that over billions of years, we would be in a much happier world, I would think. Okay, so system plus magic plus overall less suffering would make us happier. In what way would it be better than the system we have now? Like, how would that manifest in a way that actually would be better? Well, I think you'd be able to control things. Cause we can really, like you talked about earlier, we can really only control things that we see. Like we saw someone do something bad. We put them in jail. We can't control bad thoughts. We can't control the things we don't see. So if you had this governing force, right? This karmic force that was course correcting there, honestly, hypothetically, it could be a really interesting world to be living in. I don't know that we would even exist in the way we are right now. I wouldn't agree that we would. I think if there was something governing our thoughts over millennia, like who we are today would just be a product of this, you know, force that's guiding our thoughts. And like, and telling us what to think and when to think in and curving us away from maybe interests that don't interest the system itself. Something to think about. I want to get your thoughts. Scott, what do you think? Yeah, I was just gonna say it seems like it would just end up in the same position we are now because we're in a causal chain and karma kind of implies causation. And then, you know, it kind of goes into this whole free will thing. It's like we're sort of assuming. Triggered Eric, I thought. Yeah, it's like we're assuming that we have this will, you know, and if that's the case, well, some people don't want well-being. Some people want to do other people damage. And so we're kind of just doing the same thing anyways, right? We're kind of like ending up in a mixed bag of good, bad, evil, you know, virtue because there's so many different people with so many different wills. And then we got to, and then even with determinism, the same thing exists. We still have people that want to do bad things and good things and all that stuff is determined beforehand because we're in this causal chain of priors. So I don't know if it really gets you anywhere. I'm not sure. Boudreau, I'll fill one thing back to you. We'll get right prior to way on this too. But here's my monkey's pause situation where if we rely on a system that says less suffering, an island with 100 people will have less suffering than an island with 1,000 people. So this system all has to do is get rid of humanity. And it solves the problem. And I feel like the idea of like a system that isn't human, determining what humans should do is problematic because a system that needs to be humane necessarily needs to be in service of humanity or at least have the perspective of humanity to understand what it's governing, right? Which is why I like governors who are humans and not dogs or robots, right? But you're personifying the conversation. I guess I'm talking about a system that exists before humans. Yeah, I don't want that. I want humans to be the system. I want humans to determine what humans should do. Sure, but we're having fun with the conversation. So I was just kidding. Yeah, I'm just poking. I'm just poking. You know me. If we had a universe that had this kind of golden rule, so to speak, that was ingrained in everybody, I would be really curious to kind of visit that world and just see, I bet it would be a pretty happy place. I just think it... Well, last question. Would you visit in the Star Trek format or Star Wars format? Well, Star Wars was a long time ago and Star Trek is in the future. So I'd have to go into the future because then I'd have to... Yeah, okay. Yeah, because there's more rules than what you're supposed to mess around with or not. George, what do you think? Well, you started out, I think, you said the not... The way it is now, right? I think something like that. And I was thinking, well, that means not karma. What's the definition of not karma? And then my head started to explode. So... I would say the system that we currently have is a non-karmic world. So what's the definition of not karma? Look out the window. I'm looking. Yeah, that's karma. It's not a non-karmic world that you're looking at. It's raining. The bubble we were talking about, so there is some kind of karma.  So you're gonna have that kind of thing with you no matter what. So that at least exists. Dredd, I got a question for you. Would you want karma to be a real thing, regardless of whether or not you believe in it right now? What do you think we would benefit from if karma was in fact the thing that actually existed? I wouldn't want to live in a karmic world. Or even the idea that only humans are subject to karma. I mean, if karma is a real thing in the universe, then it should affect animals. It should affect bacteria. It should affect everything that lives and moves and slithers.  You know what I mean? I don't know, it's all this idea that humans have souls and animals don't. I mean, it's all tied to this sort of magical and primary place in the universe that humans would put themselves in if things like karma exist or souls exist or hells exist or heavens exist. I mean, it's just, I don't know. It seems like a silly notion to me and I wouldn't want to live in it. Is there any benefit that you could see if we did live in a karmic world? What would it be something that you'd be like, oh, at least we got this? Well, I mean, if karma existed, we would need laws and penitentiaries and punishments and all the rest because the universe is taking care of all that for us. The universe becomes our prison cell. That's right. Yeah. And if karma exists, it's like, and laws exist, it's like double jeopardy. You go to jail for murdering someone and then you get karma on top of that. It's like, eternal punishment for a finite crime. What would also suck is if someone got punished and you don't think the punishment was justified or met the degree of crime and you're like, can we make an extra law to punish them more? It's like, no, we already got karma to take care of it. The universe knows what needs to be imbalanced. That's right. Larry, I'd like to get your throat before we go to Scott's. Larry, what do you think about a karmic world? Do you want to live in a world like that? And do you see any benefit that can come from it? Well, I assume you're talking about like where the universe itself takes note of every single thing you do and then punishes you for the bad things and rewards you for the good. The universe handles justice. I don't think so, but I could understand why some people would.  I think it would be okay, except are you also going to be punished for mistakes, things that you inadvertently hurt people with or do without malice, you know? That's a great type of thing. So if that was the case, if they took all of that into consideration, I don't think it would be a problem that would make people act better, especially if they knew it was going on. But if it's just random and nobody knew, why am I getting kicked when I kicked that guy? Yeah, that's a fantastic point. If I gave someone a chocolate cake, because I thought they liked chocolate cake, but they actually turned out to be allergic and they die from it, should I expect repercussions from that? Or does the intention make it good? And if intentions can make potentially objectively bad things, good things, what do you say about someone that's in a mentally impaired state or someone that might be drunk at the time or someone who is genuinely in love with someone that's way too young for them and they try to maintain a relationship? It's like, you can't do that. Carmen's gonna be like- Or masochists who enjoy pain and then try to give that joy to others. So much great. Scott, I'd love to get your opinion. Did I ask you the original question? Then give me all your thoughts. What do you think? Well, I was gonna say, I heard somebody talk about this reincarnation, this karmic reincarnation thing a little while ago. And they were saying that the belief system in that is that if someone does bad things in this life and they go to jail or they get punished for it in this life, that now they're better people so that in the next life, they kinda graduated to the next level. So they kinda look at this life as a schoolyard. Like kinda like- What if they don't get punished in this life? Yeah, and if they don't get punished in this life and they didn't learn anything, then they have to start over. It's kinda like they didn't graduate to the next level. So it's always life is going through to the next level, to the next level. It's like an evolutionary process. Is that a tenet of Buddhism? Sort of like, yeah, Buddhism, yeah, that's what one of the mystical Buddhist interpretations will say, that yeah, it's like a school. You go to school and if you didn't learn anything from this life, you gotta start over in the next one. But if you get punished and you kinda get rehabilitated and you kinda got wisdom during your lifespan, then in the next life, you've gotten better. And they said, overall, the plan is that life for humans gets better. I like the hopeful aspect of it, because there's not a lot of hope in a non-Karmic world. But I feel like Karmic world has like, hey, things can get better. Things aren't as bad as they seem. And sometimes you really do need to have, you know, at least that as a voice. I know and I've had some dark times too. So I do appreciate that from the Karmic world view. Eric, it looked like you had a question? Yeah, yeah, I guess maybe just for the record, since you kinda got my silly answer to the question. Okay, give me your graded one, give me your graded one. My real answer's pretty short, so we can get back to everyone else. That was a great disclaimer, you said magic. We were like, okay, we're talking about magic. All right, we're good. So taking magic aside, I really, the one thing we kind of teased on a little bit here that we haven't really brought to light is understanding most of our thoughts on free will and the fact that we don't have free will.  I told you you got them. Anyway, you wouldn't let it go. It's fine. I knew we were gonna get them. All right, the whole thing is preposterous then. If you don't have free will, then why are you getting punished for anything? You didn't even do it. So I'm not gonna do it with George on it. Karma's just ridiculous. Eric, I like to get your feedback on this because this is actually my point of view on a Karmic world. It's more grounded. It's more in the sense of, I don't actually think karma's actually real, but I do believe really that people actually believe in karma. And the problem with that is, if they believe I get punished for my bad actions and rewarded for my good actions and they do something bad and they don't get punished for it, it's very easy for them to interpret that they did a good thing. And that can start a really bad spiral where they continue to do bad things because they're out of a realm where they can get punished for it or not observed. Their crimes aren't observable and those bad things get worse and worse and worse. And I think to, I can only think of cases where someone actually got caught. But for every Harvey Weinstein that didn't get caught or for every corrupt politician that didn't get an expose on or for every robber that got away from it, these are people who are going to think of the worst thing that he can do or more harm they can do because they don't have that feedback because they believe in a system that watches them all the time is always this invisible force that helps whether it's an agent or not, it's corrects them. And if they aren't getting that response or feedback, they think they're doing a good thing. And I feel like that's the same problem that religious people fall into. And when you look at, I'll throw the Pope under the bus, but we don't have to keep banging on Christianity. There's definitely religions where it's like, hey, we're in, we've been a religion for the last couple of thousand years. We've never had a woman as a leader. We don't have to have a woman as a leader because we are clearly blessed by our God who gives us all these advantages. So women can just continue to be substandard to men. It's like, if you're not trying to improve your culture, if you're not making that effort, it's gonna die hopefully, you know? And if not, it's not gonna be, you know, representative the best of what you could be. And that in its own right is a bad thing, but not a cosmically punishment. It's just a bad thing we all have to deal with. Yo, I'm gonna throw something out. I'm gonna throw something out. This is gonna be a little random. If George is bored with the idea of karma, we'd have to talk it. What do you think of the idea from what we call life? He says, why do you say anything after someone sneezes? Why don't, you don't say anything when someone else farts or burps, do you? George, I want you to be part of this conversation. What do you think about that? Do you think you should say something after someone farts or burps?  Ask what you had for lunch. Is that the takeaway? Yeah, yeah, yeah.  Do you think we should just stop saying bless you all together or should we have? I don't care. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. I try it, I try it, I try it. You did, but really it's a convention, you know, and I'm getting, I'm looking at a lot of situations in my life where people are doing things because they've always done them that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, let me give you an example of this. Sure, yeah. I get statement, I go online and I look at my bank statement online. It shows me the transactions in reverse order. You know, we've always done it that way. I call up the bank and I say, hey, I don't live this way. I don't, I don't die before I'm born. I don't buy things backwards. I don't buy things backwards. I don't have to, why are we doing it this way? I don't know, we use the service for this. Leave me alone. You know, it's like, we've always done it this way. So I just want to know, I can't, of all the things you could have brought up from argument of tradition that are actually bad. You brought up bank statements. It's like, because I had a deal with this guy. That's the top of the list. That's, that is, for me, for me, that's the top of the list. All right, all right. It's the top of my list, it's not the top of your list. I know we were going to go silly for a little bit. We're going to go a little bit back more serious. Eric, I'd like to touch a little bit on that free will statement that you made. If we don't have free will, how can karma even be justified in anything that it's doing? Cause clearly it's punishing us for things that we had no control or religion over. I would argue, and I'm massaging the term free will here, that even if free will did exist, karma in no right has a position of authority over us anyway. It has to be something that's consensual or deserving. It can't just be a, I'm okay, free will exist. And I get to decide how to punish you. It's like, I never agreed to this. I don't know who you are. What right are you coming from to punish me for taking an extra cookie? Like, that's not cool. Just let me do what I got to do. I'll tell you something you can update, right? Has to be something you can update or have some like feedback on this. It's like, Hey, I agree. Can't just be. Yeah. I've been trying another good quick, quick point. What you said about someone doing something bad and then not having something come at them and that makes them do that bad hit behavior more potentially, the opposite can occur too. Or someone could do something really good and then coincidentally, something bad happens. So I'm like, well, I'm never doing that again. Or they do something good and nothing happens. And there's no like, oh, I thought this was a nice thing. It's like, nope, everything's normal. Just like, oh, well, that kills my motivation and go out of my way to try to do these good things. Yeah. Yep, good point. Yeah. Dread. Yeah. Well, karma really is in essence, like believing in Santa is that he's watching you. He knows who's naughty and who's nice and right. You will be rewarded accordingly. You'll either find a lump of coal in your sock or a nice present to a new bike on your Christmas tree. Again, I think it's just an appeal to this universal authority that's going to make everything better. And further to Scott's point there, this idea that reincarnation and moving up levels. I mean, who's to say that humans are the pinnacle of creation of the universe? Like, is it really the best thing to be a human? Scott, what do you think? What do you think? Oh, I got the perfect simulation for that one. Oh, I hope it's short. We're in a matrix that we're in a simulation simulated by our future selves. So it's an ancestor simulation. So they say that the karma is a way to move up this little video game. Not that I believe that, but I'm just saying that could be an argument someone could produce. Sure. It is human-centric. Larry, I wanna fill something out at you. I'm seeing a lot of parallels between karma, God beliefs, and even Santa in terms of figuring out like this ambiguous being, I can't see the terms whether I do good things or bad things as a inhibition for me to do bad things or at least hopefully a carrot stick situation where it's like, if I do good, there's some bigger force that watches all my actions will reward me and if I do bad, there's some bigger force that watches me or keep me from bad things. Do you have thoughts on that? Do you think that's a coincidence? Well, I think that if we're working from a human objective and for the betterment of humanity per se, all we really need is empathy and compassion. We can guard ourselves. We can monitor ourselves and do what is right for ourselves and our society. That's simply from the golden rule, as it were, what was it? Confucius used to say, don't do unto others what you wouldn't have them do to you. But you want the best for yourself and if you care about your fellow man, then empathy and compassion would kick in and you would do the right thing. However, we're pulled in many different directions in this life and sometimes we have to choose priorities. But I don't know, it's a really hard question. What are you gonna do? Now, I'll throw this out as my last point. If we can, right now in this grounded universe actually make a karma system that is a human-centric model that says, listen, instead of all this court cases and scheduling appointments with a judge and lawyers and all these fees you gotta pay, we just made a list of rules. We have Google Glass now and we can just update you on, hey, you're doing a bad thing. Hey, that intent was wrong. Change it or now that we can see what you're doing all day long, we will dock your account a certain amount of fees that we've all agreed to as human beings on this planet. I would be like, you're getting closer to something that I would actually prefer more than this cosmic magic stuff. Larry, your raise your hand, what's up? Well, aren't you reinventing the Ten Commandments? And that's not morality. Am I reinventing the Ten Commandments? You just said we need a list of rules and we all have to live by them. Morality isn't the list of rules. I like that. That's a good counteract, that's true. The vanilla sky, I think, was a movie they made about that. Yeah, Larry, you're gonna do the future. All of my fun is gone, so much for that. I had a zillion dollar idea ready to go. I'll throw a little bit back into it. We could get a little bit back to where you were talking about, a list of rules and then the universe automatically corrects bad behavior. We may be getting closer to that when you think of it as close as we're getting to artificial intelligence. I mean, and somebody was saying earlier that if we could have non-humans determine how humans should live, we wouldn't want that. We'd want humans to determine that. Well, humans program machines and program artificial intelligence. We would just have to program the human priority into it and then turn our enforcement over to the machine world, as it were, and have them monitor our conversations, our actions, our interactions with people. Basically, what they do instead of selling us stuff, though, they instead just help us correct our behavior to be nicer to each other. I think there's some promise to that. You don't want a set of rules about don't do this, do that, but how our interactions should work for the benefit of humanity ourselves, that type of thing, to make humanity healthier going forward, not put it that way. Is it possible to leverage what people really want to do selfishly into the betterment of all? I like it. That would be kind of cool. I mean, yeah.  Larry, we're at the bottom of the show. You can catch everyone at the links that I'll put in the comment description, and I'm gonna put a Dub Shines album link in there. Boudreaux, hey, if we got time, we'll play your music. We'll also link to the YouTube channel where you put music at. Dread Pirate, you can find them, mine, P-Y-R-A-T. Pirate, and we got some cool stuff coming out of you. In the future, stay tuned. This is Let's Chat. Feel free to subscribe. Larry, why don't you take us out? We definitely have run out of time. My own content is at digitalfreethought.com. Be sure to click on the blog button. If you're having trouble leaving religious police behind, visit recoveryfromreligion.org. This has been the Digital Freethought Radio Hour.  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Yes girl. Look at my skin my skin looks like someone who's credit scores in the 700s We're gonna claim it right now There's a lot of stuff in front of me I'm gonna show you a Lot of products for protein sensitive slash low porosity hair Now disclaimer all the products I'm gonna show you are not protein-free, but a good 80% of them are protein-free and y'all I went old school I went to the long hair the long hair care forums to pull some of this information But this is a regular chit chat with some hair stuff And I will pull that pulled down a twist and show you what my hair looks like I've been moisturizing with this Okay, Camille Rose y'all honey hydrate y'all My husband get on my nerves. We're gonna talk about him in a minute though. It has to deal with this Cuz it looks like honey Right. Okay, we'll go back to that in a minute. So y'all know how we do this We talk about personal life we talk about what's in these YouTube streets Which is a bunch of fullery and we talk about what I've been watching which is not a lot I've been watching a lot more movies than I have shows Um, so yeah, let me just first off say oh, and we're gonna be talking about hair stuff But the hair stuff will mostly take the place of personal stuff cuz I ain't doing nothing ain't nothing going on at home So y'all I did wash my hair a couple of days ago, it's been four days and I rinsed out all washed out that texture ID when I tell you my hair felt like My wash day took forever When I first went to wash my hair I use or s I Love all shampoo shampoo. Excuse me. It immediately started to ball up in I was like, oh hell I stopped I completely rinsed it out. I apply like a swabs coconut conditioner To rinse it out and then I apply the Eden body works A conditioner with honey left it on and it felt okay. It's still felt funny It felt okay. Okay. All right my wash day took a couple of hours because I took my time to detangle in all that All right, so that happened. Oh, and I didn't I did an ACB rinse, which I absolutely do know that that really doesn't do anything is not as Effective as using a legit detox clarifying shampoo. I did use a little bit of a detox shampoo still I need to really really, you know strip my hair, which I'll show you some stuff here in a minute. So anyway Hair felt like trash when I first did it I did a second wash with like I say using the Eden body works deep conditioner set under the heat cap for a while Yeah, I did two separate washes in one day because it just wasn't feeling right So once I did that second wash with the Eden body works deep conditioner rinsed it out Immediately put on the tgin twist and define cream because I heard that's great for a little porosity Still felt like you know, whatever. So then I went back a couple of hours later and I added the onion The Camille Rose honey hydrate leave in felt fabulous. Okay, so that's what I've been using So yeah, I know that's what I did for the wash day, but I still have not really Clarified my hair, which is why I'm going to show you all this madness So what I'm going to do is show you everything I have do not judge me some of this stuff already had Some of the stuff I bought the only thing you won't see here is I accidentally bought the kinky tresses. I Know you're thinking accident. No, listen to me I accidentally purchased the kinky tresses Collection moisture bundle because I was trying to do something else and I accidentally hit submit order But it's okay. You know, I'm gonna. Yeah, it's okay. So let's just go right in you guys I have stuff here. I probably should have done this by product. Let me organize this a little bit better you guys This is a dang on shame and Deep conditioners leave in here's another shampoo Leave in leave in leave in clenching. All right. All right. So first up cleansing products. All right We have the Aztec secret Indian healing clay Definitely definitely would be detoxing my hair in like a couple of more weeks. Okay We have swabs daily Clarifying shampoo this stuff is bomb.com. I didn't have any my wash day. That's why they or I would have used it So I purchased this the day after my wash day I would be using this my next wash day and I'm gonna try my best To fill my video y'all, but I'm in my feelings right now. So you have to bear it with me um Protein friendly or protein free and sulfate free allocate matchels Caribbean coconut milk shampoo now you guys there's a lot of Not a lot, but people who are protein sensitive There's a lot of discussion on whether or not you should stay away from coconut or products that have coconut My suggestion would be to look at the ingredient list if it's further down on the ingredient list. It's okay Watch out for words like keratin hydrolyzed wheat protein hydrolyzed protein amino acid stuff like that I Used this once or twice before and it's okay And from what I understand, please correct me if I'm wrong from what I understand coconut oil does not have as much Protein as we really think but I don't use coconut oil anyway So I was using fenugreek oil, which we stopped using. All right Um Another one that is not necessarily protein-free, but it's protein Great for protein sensitive is tgi and it's moisture real rich sulfrate free shampoo. I didn't use this last watch They I don't know why I didn't use it When I do use is I will be diluting it though going for it now I will say one thing when you order to use something like this shampoo I know there's several other companies Shay moisture has a low porosity protein-free shampoo, by the way You want to follow up with a moisturizing shampoo and you want to follow up with a moisturizing deep conditioner? All right moving on to rinse out conditioners. There are there are several affordable look I'm trying to find stuff that is affordable because I have to use a lot product because I have a lot of hair I'm not trying to spend a lot of money you guys so both swap vl 5 Aussie and Tressa may offer products that are protein-free or protein sensitive. So swabs apple Conditioner is supposedly protein-free. I don't have an example here, but Tressa mays color conditioner and Tressa mays botanique nourishing conditioner Aussie's moist is protein-free and their three minute minute miracle Wife's is protein-free. All right. So now as far as deep conditioners eating body works natural deep conditioner This is a staple of mine. Actually, they just so happen to be protein-free. I don't have an example here But tgi ends honey miracle is also Protein-free and albaya's that Baba Sue oil is protein-free now Ironically newly all of the products from the African pride moisture miracle is protein-free So here we have their Moroccan clay and shea butter detox heat activated mask. We have the pre shampoo Okay Which is protein-friendly and we have their curling cream with shea butter and flaxseed oil I'm not sure if the leave-in cream though is protein-free. I'm not sure at all because that's coconut oil It has a couple of different things that make me suspicious of it. All right, so I Don't have an example here, but the lot of body curl milk is coming in I ordered a couple of those that's protein-free, but cream of nature Leave-in curl milk and their shampoo. They're Oil yarns honey do I know y'all got a lot of stuff here as far as styling aunt Jackie's curl la la curling curl custard and Tgi ends twist and define cream and Of course the honey hydrate by Camille Rose the leave-in honey honey sticky now I'm gonna take down a plaque so y'all can see what my hair looks like this has been working, baby When I tell you my hair feels awesome with this stuff still not there because I need to Going with this still not there But I had this on the table Getting ready to use it right and my husband's like why is there a honey? It was like in the living room So he's like why do you have honey in here?  He's like it's all sticky Why do you have honey? I said that is a hair product and he's looking at it Y'all they're reminding me of a time Let me go ahead and take down a twist They're reminding me of a time when I had made a deep conditioner and had placed it in the fridge Why did he go in and almost was trying to eat it because they had avocado oil not avocado oil I had avocados in it and other stuff. He even smelt it.  He's like, you know what you need to buy yourself a little mini refrigerator for all your little hair products I'm actually that's not a bad idea, but no no So I'm gonna show you tell y'all what I'm gonna be using and doing But let's take down a twist it to because I did moisturize my hair yesterday with the honey hydrate. Oh, yes It feels really really good I know the coloring is a bit off, but My hair feels good now. Unfortunately for me with this honey hydrate It is sticky and it has this film residue It's a product that I would use only if I wore my hair like this I honestly probably wouldn't use it. I'm gonna use it along with a wash and go I put my hair gel for a wash and go that would be amazing, but It's just too heavy So y'all those are all the products I have that are protein friendly and for protein system of people But let's just be clear I would not be using all of these products because honestly that will you know defeat the purpose of making sure I don't have product build-up. What I plan on doing is pre-pooing with oil I used to use swabs coconut conditioner. I'm not gonna do that anymore pre-poo with oil I'll be cleansing my hair with this and With the organ oil shampoo, I can just purchase that at Walmart. I'll go in between these two, but yeah I'll stick to one or the other And then I will be conditioning my hair with you I think I may skip conditioning and just go right into deconditioning. Let's just be real If I'm gonna you know put on a conditioner It'll be something very cheap really, you know like the swabs or whatever But I will more than likely be deconditioning with Eden body works or the TG I in going in between those Another thing is that I could use one of these like I was a add some honey add some oil and use this as a deep conditioner All right for my leaving it would definitely be the Camille rose honey hydrate along with the lobby body Cross-style selling in with oil and that is it. I don't plan on styling my hair doing this time I don't plan on doing a flatter in August. Yeah, I'm giving my hair like a good two to three month Love and condition. Yeah, that's what we're gonna be doing. So yeah, that's the hair y'all get that at the way family life It's okay. Everyone's getting on my nerves. So they're okay One of the things that I signed JB up for and those of you who have young children And even if you don't have young children, I think this is great for anyone 12 and under we went through Out school is it called out school y'all? I'm sorry. I'm I'm losing my memory Outschool.com and so it's basically where teachers or educators go online and you could take virtual Virtual classes no matter what subject they have history English Legos Minecraft You know math with Legos and so the teacher create the class and they have a little discussion Excuse me a little description of the class and the teacher even has some of them Not all the teachers have a video an introductory video. So I love that to keep JB busy throughout the summer So they even have camps virtual camps that you can sign your kids up very affordable the class that JB taking is taking next Monday, it's only $10. Okay, I can understand if you have multiple kids If you get a little a little pricey, but if you have one or two children looking to it, okay? It's called out school comm you can sign your kids up. They want to know their age and yeah Especially with JB being an only child. I think this is great for him. So yeah, besides that y'all We're not really doing anything. We're staying and staying put with counsel all of our plans for August my my big birthday was in August We were going to California. That's not happening anymore The cases in Phoenix are going up My husband sent me an email. I'm like, yeah, don't be sending me this stuff He sent me an email of all the cases not all the cases, but some data that they received and I'm like, uh, you know I'm him and all his co-workers or everyone at the hospital have to get tested Come to find out two people came back positive in the entire hospitals hundreds of people that work there Okay, two people came back positive, but they were asymptomatic meaning they were not exhibiting any symptoms So that's very alarming very interesting because they're scanning people when they come in, you know Making sure that their temperature is normal and these people had a normal temperature and still test the positive Alright, yeah, and that's what's going on. Yeah, I really don't want to get into the discussions of what's going on in the country Because when I tell you I am I cannot go in there as someone who is an empath. I Am very sensitive. So I don't even my husband has the news on but I try to tune it out I try to unplug. I'm not on Facebook a lot right now I'm on I post like every three days on Instagram and I know what's going on I'm aware of what's going on with the riding and the looting and the protests in general Which in my opinion are three that three different things with three different agendas. I'm gonna go there and that's you know For my understanding they're saying that he he tested positive for the coronavirus a Hard side I hard side I own that information. That's all I'm gonna. Yeah, the media you really got to be careful on You know, how much you take in and whether or not you want to believe some of that stuff I don't believe that Just just saying I really don't so I am very careful of what I watch what I see I'm very careful what I let my child soak in right now because he's so young so Impressional right now. He still does not understand the the Complications of the coronavirus he understands bits of racism, but I don't want my child. I Want my child to be a child right now He's only seven years old and I kind of mentioned this briefly in my vlogs We will we will have to have those discussions age appropriate discussions as he gets older Honestly in a couple more years That just breaks my heart y'all and Like four or five more years We would have to have these discussions that he will be treated differently because of what he looks like Unfortunately, he will have to proceed with caution when he gets pulled over by a police officer Um Jb's pretty with it. He's pretty smart. I think that he won't I think he won't be a question of why me when we have you to Have these discussions, you know, I mean But one thing I encourage y'all to do is pray for your children pray over your family Let me tell you something.  I pray over my child daily I pray with my husband daily. I pray over my family daily. You have to cover your family Okay, and we're gonna move on from that. All right, y'all. So Girl what I'm watching on YouTube. Let me tell you something First of all, I did watch African I was actually in African hair gods last video Last life. I wasn't in it. I was participating in it And by the way angel a couple of people asked to see your messy naps a couple of people Recommended your videos just to let you know girl. So y'all um What was gonna say he was looking at That family the interracial couple she's married to is he is he Korean you guys? I don't want to get it wrong.  I was like, where's my bra control? They have serious to like seven or nine children Beautiful family. I've watched some of their videos before I will say this I feel like especially when he tries to introduce the mixed children to his Asian side I feel like a lot of that Solely based on how he's wording. He's definitely click bait.  I think their reaction to your children. Do we really need to see y'all? I mean, it's just it's interesting, but apart of me. It's like, why are we doing this really? What why are you really doing this? So But anyway, the video I saw was her I Think video is titled wash day with seven different hair types or something like that seven what they're seven different hair types anyway, girl Again, beautiful family and y'all y'all talking about them the amazing. What are they named moselly mazee l mazee Y'all know who i'm talking about So she was doing all the kids hair different hair textures. Yeah, but I feel like She was one very heavy-handed especially when it came to the oils You don't need all that oil in the babies here if she was very heavy-handed when it comes to the oils and she was tearing through their Hair the the kids. I know they tend to hit it They were you know, some of them were screaming out in pain and let's just be honest Some of us went through that too as children But our parents didn't know any better and our parents weren't filming it and put it on youtube reviews Yes, I said it so She has so much information at her hands that I don't I don't understand why she felt the need to Use incorrect products and tools and doing the baby's hair. I really I didn't I will say her only saving grace was styling She did a fabulous job at styling all of the children's hair.  Hell. My family came from a big family My mom was the youngest of 12 kids. My dad is the middle of 10.  So it's a beautiful thing Okay, baby, I'm gonna be done in a minute. Okay, let's see. I had someone recommend me to watch I didn't see all of it, but I saw some reaction to It's her name Makai Micah Micah Micah Stauffer Their channel is the Stauffer family stack safer family. I don't really watch them. I'm not subscribed to them.  First of all, I didn't even know you could do that Apparently she adopted this little boy when he was like Basically a baby like a year old or a toddler Had the child for a couple of years. He's special needs. He's Autistic and they can't handle it apparently apparently and so They went through the process of re-homing him y'all The child is only four years old Where I I saw like two minutes of their video and I couldn't take it. I was like, this is too much for me Even my child was behind me and he's like mommy. They really gave him back. I'm like, yeah I Get it special needs. Well, I don't get it because I don't have a special needs child But I understand it could be frustrating to have a special needs child And how draining it could be on you With this child and the patients that you have to have But those are you, you know, when we have a child, we don't know what we're gonna get Okay Well, you you have your baby. You hope that everything's gonna be well You have no idea how this child is going to turn out mentally physically well emotionally You have no idea but you deal with it. You don't say okay.  Well, the the father dropped off all his kids at the fire station that was even that is horrible So I really I you know I don't sympathize with the parents all my sympathy. It's going towards that child because He cannot help that he cannot help his situation So not only did y'all ask his go over to china to get him you had him for a couple of years Oh, and I think that went ahead and had another baby. They had a baby So why would you have a baby knowing you already have a special needs child?  I was subscribed to this young lady and it Oh my god, I'm really I'm trying to make this video be that way We're going to get into some fun stuff in a minute here. I promise Sorry y'all. I just did the cold a little bit now look chocolate. So anyway nap queen I was subscribed to her. I first saw her a couple of years ago like four years ago She did this beautiful style curly style on her four type hair beautiful Saw her most recent video and y'all like literally that one of the top comments was like Congratulations on you going through this transitional phase And she responded to it. I almost started crying. She responded to it just a couple of weeks ago Saying, you know, thank you and it was almost as if it was in the atmosphere that something was going to happen Because she was on the verge of going through this change in her life Her living living boyfriend and ended up killing her Anyway, y'all enough of that. I will say if you're in a domestic situation, it it is hard. It is rough, but please get out Please please please get out that situation. It is never never never a good thing to stay. So y'all Let's lighten it up. I know how I'm getting teary-eyed girl. Let's lighten it up What I've been watching child. I've been watching more movies than there anything really I'm trying to stay uplifted trying to look at some more feel-good movies and just feel good shows I did end up finishing sweet magnolia. Y'all I loved it. I love the series um The ending was good a great cliffhanger for season two So y'all I got a recommendation to watch hostela got her groove back child First of all when this movie came out, I was only 17 years old So like I say to you in one of my other videos when you watch a movie as a grown as woman Watch it again. You totally look at things differently So I know most of y'all have seen hostela got her groove back And isn't it based off of homegirl's situation and he turned out to be gay because they were on oprah a couple of years after It was child. So anyway, um Watching it now And she's talking to the young man. What is his name?  I was like, oh, he's fine Like she just she's better go ahead and push up on me because he's fine. He's looking at her got that dark skin Those pretty teeth. Yes Now with me being almost 40 years old a couple of weeks shy of turning 40 and the character is like 40, you know, um angelo, uh, bassid is playing a character who's 40 years old now. I'm looking at it like he's way too young for her I'm like, there is no way there is no I don't think I would even talk to someone who's 30. Y'all know I like my man Up there a girl like when I saw I saw obama last night speaking and obama talking about he's turning what he's he's 59 I'm like, oh, yes, obama.  So yeah, now I'm looking and like no, he's way too. I stopped watching it I'm like, I can't watch this. He's she's a She is so thirsty I started to watch what else I'm looking at my thing y'all. I watched this scary movie called elie Really good really good twist. It's a scary movie on netflix. Not what I expected at all I'm starting to watch what is that altered carbon Was that and it has to got from the killing but he got real But that's another one if you have not seen the killing. Oh, that's up there with one of the top series crime Up there, but the actor is also in this altered carbon. It's good. You guys now will say The first episode i'm only on episode two the first episode reminded me of that movie the island Have you ever seen that? I think that's on netflix too. It really really did remind me of that movie I'm gonna stick with it. I heard it's good. So yeah, altered carbon. I started I was looking at blood and water It's on my list. I'm gonna watch it. It's on my list So I went ahead and also add it for a go, which is on hulu And there was something else I added look look at my list y'all Saints and sinners Did I add that I added that I added that I watched that movie that won the oscar parasite Child it was good, but it didn't deserve no damn oscar. Was it did it get movie of the year? That was no movie of the year. I don't think so. No, uh, uh peppa pig episode was better than that. So I It was a good movie, but in my opinion it didn't it didn't deserve a oscar. It was an oscar worthy. Yeah, so That is it you guys.  Um, you got some comedy It's something for everybody. You shouldn't complain. Okay. All right, you guys. I will see you later. Take care. Bye


Step four is reviewing those DMARC reports. Soon after publishing that DMARC record, mail servers that have received email from your domain are going to start sending reports back to the email address that you have specified in that DMARC record. And those emails are going to contain XML files that contain delivery information about emails that appear to have come from your domain. And like in this example here, we can see that we've sent some emails from our protected trust domain and they've gone to the email provider email server dot com and we can see that everything passed DMARC. So it passed SPF, it passed DKIM, passed DMARC. So we can see this is a good report. The issue is actually getting this useful report because the reports that you get sent to that address are just going to be XML files and those XML files you actually have to run through an online like parser. You'd have to go out to a third party service to basically parse that XML data to get it into something that's human readable. There are some services that do that for you. I can't recommend any, but there are some services that you can use to automatically do that for you. So you could sign up for one of those services and have the email address that you specify in your DMARC record be a special email address that would just collect all of that XML data and parse it. If you're interested in doing that, I'd recommend looking it up on the internet.


Okay so right up front before we jump into the review here's your content warnings or triggered warnings what what what have you I have absolutely no problem offending people or seeing people offended but I do have I do take issue with triggering people so your content warnings are rape cutting death of a child suicide and I'm sure there's a lot more just know that you're going into this one there's going to be a lot of triggers for some of you and also there's going to be spoilers sprinkled throughout I will try to tell you where they where they are and let you know flash a spoiler warning or say a spoiler warning at some point in the video but there are two stories specifically that I could not talk about without spoilers so there you have it there's your warning on with the review hello everybody E here welcome back to another book review today we are talking about the follow-up but not quite the follow-up to Mediana and in any cases things we lost in the file fire but not the files the fire the dangers of smoking in bed now why I say kind of follow-up not quite follow-up because I was informed by a friend of mine on Goodreads that this book was actually it was published before things we lost in the fire but it was translated afterwards and it is is a is a Buenos is an author from Buenos Aires and writes almost exclusively about that area of the world I'm gonna go through and talk about my favorite stories this one wasn't a perfect experience for me like things we lost in the fire but for those of you who like to click on here and get my my rating and just move along with your lives I'm giving this one five stars also I do have one minor criticism about a story later on in the book but we'll get to all that without spoilers so let's jump right into the review now I won't be talking about every single story in this collection there's 12 stories and they are all middling to fantastic I am shocked that some of these stories came before the stories of the things we lost in the fire just because they are so good does anything in this collection compare to under the black water which is my second favorite short story of all times only beating out in the hills the cities by Clive Barker no nothing in here even comes close to that and that story and things we lost in the fire is leaps and bounds above everything else if I could give it 10 stars I would that's how much better that story is than anything else but it speaks volumes to the quality of the collection that I still rated the entire thing five stars because it's that's an amazing collection this one is a very very good collection it is not amazing I can tell that I can tell in some of the stories that they were earlier stories or they might have been earlier stories but with this one I did have some questions later on with one of the stories I had an issue with but we're going to start with our lady of the quarry this is the second story in the book it is a fantastically dark subtly creepy story about a group of kids who go out well teenagers who go out to the quarry to swim and just all around mess around and they come across the lady of the quarry which is a statue dressed in red it's just it's very very creepy it reminded me a lot of another story but there's a I don't even want to tell you what it is because if you know that story it's going to spoil this story for you but this is where a mediana and he has really shines with the subtly creepy that's not to say that she does not do gory balls to the walls brutal horror well also but this is a perfect example of her doing subtle work okay so one of the themes in this collection a very heavy theme in this collection are curses the dead coming back to life that that kind of thing hauntings you know your typical horror but in any case does a fantastic job putting her own special blend her own special twist on these stories the next story I want to talk about is the cart it's about one of those food cart vendors comes to the street bad things happen and the residents of this neighborhood end up becoming cursed is something it was something unlike anything I had read before the overall plot isn't anything new or original but I love how how much time passes in such a short period of time it's a it's a very short story I think it might be 10 pages long 12 pages something like that and most of the stories in here are that short except for the one that I had an issue with but we'll get to that I'm actually going to talk about that one next even though it is toward the end of the book but I want to balance this with my positives and my negatives so the cart I really enjoyed watching this this story play out it had a lot of my favorite tropes and instances or you know it had a lot of my favorite horror tropes in it and I really enjoyed next up we have a story that should have been great for me it should have been utterly fantastic but I'm really tired of this type of story I don't know why I just am and the story went on way way too long and that is kids who come back I should have loved this just for just for the I don't know man the I guess the the creepiness of the and I mean kids who come back you you know what we're talking about here I should have enjoyed it more than I than I did but I didn't quite see for such a long story I saw the point but I didn't see the point and what I mean by that is I have a feeling I I don't know there was there was LGBT well there was specifically there was a lesbian in the story and the themes seem to be this I'm gonna try and try and compartmentalize my thoughts on it it seemed to be an allegory for gay kids coming out to their parents and parents not supporting them because these kids there was a very I felt it as a very LGBT QIA plus theme to it that one of the characters was a lesbian one was bisexual but the story had to do with these kids and this is spoilers for this story so if you don't want spoilers I'll try and remember to leave a thing so you can skip ahead to the next thing so spoilers in three two one they're these kids who run away disappear whatever these kids die even if the family doesn't know they're dead and then all of a sudden they start appearing in these different parks around the city and then they end up going back home once they are once the authorities figure out where to put them or if the family finds them whatever because some of the families come to the parks looking for their lost kids they get them home realize that they are not the same kid that they thought they were I think that's important here and then they end up kicking them back out on the street or sending them off to hospitals or what have you I think that's what it is but it seemed like that was a good thing in the story and that's what I had issue with I don't but I don't know I'm so I'm conflicted I don't want to believe that in any case it was saying that you know the kids should be shunned I'm not sure but toward the end there is an idea that they're going to get their payback and so on and so forth so maybe it's a positive message overall the story just didn't work for me and it was so long and tedious to read this is nothing like any of the other stuff that I have read from Median and Nikkei's uh there's um there well she doesn't do a whole lot of dialogue anyways this one was really really narrative heavy and I didn't enjoy reading it so on top of the themes being a little bit convoluted and I'm not sure exactly what she was trying to say maybe she wasn't trying to say anything at all maybe it was just your basic basic ass basic ass horror story you know the old joke and the teacher asks what did the author mean by the uh by the curtains are blue and then it says the author I meant the curtains are fucking blue you know there might not be any underlying tone there it might just be a story of you know zombie kids but they're not zombies they're more of a ghost kind of thing because they walk through walls at one point um it's also that was a little weird it's like they could walk through walls but sometimes they were tangible sometimes they weren't I don't know the world building it didn't work for me um so this is the that's the only complaint I have about this story that that one story was too long too convoluted the author's message got lost or even if there was a message I couldn't even tell um so that's my one complaint and now we're going to move on with the rest of the amazing content in this collection next up we have a story kind of came out of nowhere for me this story is where are you dear heart uh this story was absolutely freaky um I don't want to spoil too much for you but this is one of the most unique stories I've heard I've read because it has to do with a woman with a heartbeat kink yes you heard that right her kink what gets her off is abnormal heartbeats um so she ends up finding someone and just like you know the the the true story about the cannibal who found the man who actually wanted to be eaten um she finds somebody that will allow her to you know listen to the heart and all of a sudden I love the way it ended uh the last couple paragraphs of this story is absolutely fantastic it might be my favorite story in the collection which is very weird because it is heavily heavily horror erotica um there was some there was some points in there where I I got a little aroused and I'm gonna be completely honest with you I usually don't with stories I'm a very visual person when it comes to things like that um I like looking more than I like reading um so I don't care too much for erotica the only erotica author I've ever read um that did anything for me before this story is Sonora Taylor um with a erotica piece that I read from her about Krampus hey look don't shame anyways but this was this was one of those stories man that came out of nowhere for me because I started reading and I was like this is a little too erotic for me and I was like I'm glad it's as erotic as it is but if anybody else reads this one and thinks I'm weird for getting turned on in certain parts none of it had to do with like blood or guts or anything it's certain things that the woman does um that was like wow that's that's hot but um if anybody else read this and is like god he's just just too weird for me I would love to hear from you I don't care if you can't shame me but it's I would I would love to hear from you because this one I felt was really really sexy and if I'm alone in this I'd love to know if that's just me you know anyways onto the next story okay so the next story is called Meet MEAT not to be confused with Patrick DeLacy's I think it's DeLake Patrick it might be might have said that wrong but the the author of Meet who anyways it has nothing to do with that um this story is about a I love stories about cults I love stories about music this is about a pop star who releases an album called Meet and then right afterwards kills himself um there is there is a scene of necro cannibalism in this story that really got underneath my skin um yeah if you if you can't put two and two together necro cannibalism is human beings eating dead human beings uh there's a bit in there that really really disgusted me um I hope that's not too much of a spoiler uh it probably is so apologize I'm gonna put a spoiler alert at the beginning of this thing uh just to let everybody know uh and I'll put a content warning too so I'll go back and do that this is to remind myself so E go back and and do those things but uh this story by the time we got to the end of it I was like this is this is a fantastic fantastic idea and I would my only criticism here is I would have loved to have read an entire novel about this pop star who who commits suicide and creates this cult following afterward I really really think that that would be something that I would like to read fleshed out even more I find that to be an issue with all short well all short stories that I really really love and I think you guys have the same problem too I hear this a lot it's too short that's a compliment you know more people want to stay in your world longer it's a hundred percent a compliment at least at least for me it is when people say hey your books too short I take it as a compliment um unless they're like it's you know you didn't wrap up in if that's a problem then then we have issues but um if they just wanted more of the same content that's awesome that's a win um for me and I feel it's a win when I say it I wish this story was longer okay now we're going to talk about no birthdays or baptisms uh there is a very disturbing line in here that uh made me stop reading um Mariana Enriquez describes girls from the ages of six to nine in very sexual very sexual language um I spoke to my friend Nat about this uh TC Parker that's she Natalie Edwards or TC Parker she writes under both names um I was talking to her about it and I asked you know should we give should we give should we give Enriquez a pass because it's a woman writing about little girls I don't know I really don't it did disturb me so if that was the point it she got it I mean it's it's language like water you know trickling down an ass crack but it's literally like trickling down her ass instead of like butt or butt but cheeks or buttocks something a little more neutral than than ass and also the reason why it's being explained is because the the video that is being taken is going to uh maybe a maybe pedophile I mean I'm just got a pedophile because it's somebody who wants images of a child of a little girl under the age of 10 you know not naked but with more flesh shown that's that's literally from the book um that really really bothered me uh it got under my skin like I said uh so before warned when you go into the story man you're going to read some stuff that you probably don't want to read I hope it's on purpose I'm thinking it's on purpose so I'm not going to give Enriquez a pass I'm going to tell you I enjoyed the story in so much as the story disturbed the hell out of me so I'm going to take it with a grain assault uh that that language and I'm going to say that it was there to disturb and it did its job now we're going to talk about the titular story uh the the dangers of smoking in bed this one was so well done it is a second to last story um the I think it should have been the very last story because I I think it ended with a much stronger punch here's what I got from this uh and once again spoilers in three two one here's what I got from this story the person who dies at the beginning of the story smoking in bed burns down they fell they were under the possession of an entity that then possesses through the smoke that she's constantly smelling the main character of the story so there's this thing in this apartment complex or whatever that is going around and possessing people and making them smoke under the covers smoke in bed and they that's how that's how I felt it is not it's kind of implied but it is never fully said um and most of the stories in here you're gonna have to do the leg work yourself the the the crumbs are there it was the same way with things we lost in the fire um their bed breadcrumbs strewn everywhere you had to piece together um and it's not so overly obtuse that you get angry about it that you dislike it at least not for me um not as much as like a jock jimps um that's her stuff is much much more ambiguous and obtuse like the grip of it um and then I forget lucky lucky number so I can't remember what her short story collection was but um it it's more you get more um from an or you kiss then you did jimps uh I I recommend both of them very highly but the uh with this one I don't I'm hoping I got it right you know I'm hoping that I that I found the breadcrumbs and that I followed them to completion I may not have but I'm hoping that I did so that's it that's like I said I didn't talk about all of the stories and that was on purpose because some of them had less of an impact for me but I highly suggest you read the entire collection because there's nothing as strong as under the black water from things we lost in the fire but every single story in here is worth a read even the one that I had issue with but that story shouldn't have been that long and that obtuse that vague like what what's the point of this is just straight horror you trying to be deeper because all the rest of your stuff is deeper so I'm sitting here trying to trying to find your I don't know I guess your intention uh the if I can talk to the author real quick um if I could find your intention for that story maybe it would be better I think it might be a better story to read more than once and that's kind of the problem because it is the longest story I think it's longer than anything in things we lost in the fire also but have you read the the dangers of smoking in bed with it's absolutely it's upside down absolutely gorgeous cover um let me know down there in the doobly-doo whether or not uh you loved it whether or not you hated it and let me know why you loved and hated it definitely tell me your favorite and your least favorite stories down there in the doobly-doo I love to read those uh I'd love to read other people's experiences so please do that down there um but until next time I have any you have been you this has been another book review I'll talk to you guys later bye


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