It's the second movie we've seen this year with the Roman Centurion playing a key role. I don't know if you saw it, but I show a lot of movies and the man that played the Roman Centurion, he also played in the island. He was Dr. Merrick. It was the ego character in this movie I used for teaching awakening. But in this movie, in that movie he played the ego straight on and basically it was the main character who had to rise up in the end. They were always at odds. The main character, he used a reference to an American president who freed all the slaves, Lincoln. He rose up at the end. My name is Lincoln. You might remember the first Matrix movie. My name is Neo. Mr. Anderson with the agent and Neo rises up. My name is Neo in that subway scene. But in this movie, the first one we saw recently was a very powerful movie but the Roman Centurion actually had a conversion experience. And in this one it was a little more like if you were talking at the lunch table with Diana. It was almost like the little Jesus was just looking at him head on and twice. He said, you were there before. How do you know that? You saved me. And at this point he was like noticed in this movie there was a lot of those scenes where like when they said what is your name and the man next to him just said he doesn't speak. There's a lot of those kind of scenes where it's good to know that as you wake up to who you truly are the time and space will be arranged. You don't even have to defend yourself or figure it out. It's a little more like Lucy where everything is orchestrated. Just the way is made clear when you are sure of your destiny and sure of your purpose. Which is just really, that's how the movie ended, to be a child of God. Mary says, you know, and he says we're all children of God. But she said, but you're really here to live it. Not conceptually or not, you know, more like the cliche we're all, but actual and actual experience. That was very good, I thought too, the way it ended. That was a really powerful scene at the end of just his face and that whole point of living it, which is what Sarah was talking about this morning at the service too. Just living it, really living it, really feeling it. There comes a point where you, whatever concepts that have been helpful, there comes a point to toss them. Because you're really tossing aside all intellectual concepts and just saying, okay, it's time for an experience. And you don't know how the form of that experience will come to pass. But you do know that it's just a destiny. There's nothing to stop it from coming because it's the truth. And all you have to do is just stay so authentic with your feelings and so authentic with what you know deep in the core of your being. It seems crazy in this world that you can actually take no thought for what you shall wear or what you shall eat, take no thought for the morrow, take no thought for anything in form. Because it goes against all of our conditioning where we're supposed to take lots of thought, plan it, figure it out, analyze it, ensure it, you know, make it happen, work at it. It's almost like a craftsman, you know, work, work, work. And then it's like, in the end, even practice has to go because practice still involves time. The last to go will be the practice. What's your spiritual practice? No, I don't. What's your spiritual pathway? The pathway has to disappear. The practice has to disappear. Everything has to disappear. We were talking last night and Stephen was just saying how he, when he first felt he was to, you know, start recording and doing these videos, but there was no way that you couldn't do it. It just happened. There wasn't anything in the mind that was debating. Shouldn't, you know, all of that. There was some compelling. Compelling, yeah. I just started talking. It's the same word I use when I first started to travel. People will say, why? Why would you just leave everything and go out? And I say, I was compelled. I use the exact word, but that's, you could really see it in this movie. He's a seven-year-old and yet he was compelled, even though the whole context of being a seven-year-old child and that day and age and everything, even going on to Jerusalem, and his older brother finally, James finally said he has to go because he's got to get answers. That's why he's gone because they were like, I couldn't imagine that he would have left that cave or walked away from them. And they couldn't imagine that somebody actually found them and took him. It was almost like neither of those make any sense until James spoke up and said, oh, he has to find answers. That's why, and they all were like, they knew it. They knew that he was speaking the truth. That was great. What a blessing that movie. And then what was the one we wrote? Rizm. Oh my gosh, Rizm and the young Messiah, because I'd seen the trailers for both of them and I was like, something's up this year. We're starting to have Jesus movies that are really hitting home now. It's like his very presence gives everyone he meets the opportunity. Are you going to go for Christ? Well, the ego now, like what's your call? Isn't it? In each one of us encounters with the Romans or everyone around him, just because he's so clear in that they hit the ear cold to make. Yeah. We had a pretty good picture of the younger Jesus through, some of you know the Eurantia book. Joseph in here, the father, played a big role. But then according to the Eurantia book that he died, it's this book that... Yeah, I've got a friend who studies it. Yeah, according to the letter... The first time I've heard anyone mentioning it. Yeah, I've met people in groups around the country and all over the world that have studied it. And actually the president of the Eurantia Foundation came to Judy Scotch, the publisher of the course, and said, how have you got the course all over the world? And what's your business plan? We don't have one. We pray every step of the way we have no business plan. So they were interested. But in the Eurantia book, Jesus' father dies when he's 15. So this was when he was seven. So he went on... He had a lot of things that he had to face as a teenager during those years because for most children, male children at the time, 15, 16, 17, 18, he literally had to face all kinds of things that most people don't face until much later in their life. You can imagine a parent dying at that age and with all that we just saw here. So it's interesting with this movie and the Eurantia book and everything, it's starting to piece the puzzle together that he had a destiny. He was always aware there was some kind of huge destiny but he had absolutely no clue of what that destiny was, nor could he. Now we're starting to see it and certainly with the Course in Miracles we've got a whole bigger context on that this is a dream world and that it's not our destiny. Our destiny doesn't involve ending up anywhere in time and space. Our destiny is to wake up from the dream but in order to do that we have to play our part which is given to us moment by moment by the Holy Spirit. Only the Holy Spirit and Jesus know that where we're supposed to go, who we're supposed to meet, what we're supposed to do and it's been great because what Steve has been sharing is just coming here with Vicki. You can feel things getting activated like there's a whole plan that's really all prearranged. It's already written but we haven't walked through it yet and then we meet and we feel this energy and we feel this activation and we feel it's huge. It's way beyond the human understanding. No human could possibly comprehend the context of that but we feel it for sure and Jesus definitely felt it and felt it and then had some temptations when he was in his late teens and then in the Bible it talks about him being tempted by the devil 40 days and 40 nights and it was kind of interesting that they had the devil seen in this just like they had the devil character in Mel Gibson's movie. You remember Mary and the devil kind of when Jesus is walking carrying the cross the devil and Mary are on each side of Jesus and they're both looking at each other and that's kind of an interesting parallel and then with this one I really feel it's like all these movies are coming in we're just getting more of a bigger context to how important our lives are not so much in form but in a much broader context in terms of the whole cosmos like Jesus is such a symbol it's such an amazing rare symbol and the Orantia book basically says that what we would call Orantia or Earth is on a range of evolution of waking up to God it's a very crude planet so you have something like a Christ which is everything manifesting on one of the crudest planets in the cosmos and that's why we have these huge ripples that have been going on for the last 2,000 years because that light is completely transcending time and space it's like you were talking about the one beyond the fifth stage or whatever it was like manifesting that beyond whatever that is and yet seemingly in flesh and in scripts and scenarios of this world which is like a golf that we can't even imagine how far that golf seems to be but we're facing it dealing with it and we were talking at lunch those signs and symbols are just they start flooding into our awareness more and more of those little little synchronicities those little nudges those little reminders of the purpose behind everything that we do even if you're talking about the Arranche book the guy I'm going to see from here in California is a devotee of the Arranche book he's the one who, when I stayed there last time about a time before that he told me all about Arranche he came out of Vietnam, we had messed up he went around to friends and that book was on the table he said, what's this? they said, I don't know, someone left it here you can have it if you want he opened it, read it he's been devoted to it ever since and I was saying to Vicky I was telling Vicky about it I don't know anyone who's ever heard of it apart from him and the story of Jesus is in it and then you start speaking about it this is the second man I've ever known he mentioned it this is 2016 and I had very very devoted students in the early 1990s and I came across the Arranche book when I was in 1991 when I was on my first travels around the United States and Canada I was at a creek bed in Sedona with one of those little pop-up camper trailers and this man and woman who were studying the course and the Arranche book and all of these kind of real esoteric books 20 some 25 years ago they were like very deep into it and they introduced me to it and then about four years after that I had all these people showing up telling me you are my teacher you know we are your students and I was like okay it was quite startling but the biggest like I mentioned about that book in the office the mystical teachings of Jesus most of them were all raised in Christianity but they couldn't comprehend what the course was saying it just was too far beyond what they could comprehend so I made that book The Bible Course Companion but I also made this book that people talk about where I took passages from the Arranche book The Last Section The Life and Teachings of Jesus and the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ by Levi and Absence from Felicity Ken Wapnick wrote where Jesus describes the crucifixion and the resurrection in great detail and I took huge amounts of chunks from the course and I made this big book that had all these kind of amazing teachings in and I put a pink cover on the front and a pink cover on the back and I put a fish sign on it and it was called the Fish Book and so people have heard me for the last 20 years talking about the Fish Book there was a composite book that the Holy Spirit built for my students that had all those teachings together in one place because the Arranche book is full of parables too also Jesus did a lot of praying not just the Lord's Prayer but he had these big long beautiful prayers they're all in the Arranche book and so that was to be the bridge for the early students who couldn't quite grasp the course they needed something they said what did they do for a bank account and how did they handle lodging and how did Jesus interact with each one of the apostles because they were just human beings struggling and so I described through reading that last section that whole section of the Arranche book I could see how patient Jesus was working with everyone how he would work with Thomas who was always doubting and doubting everything how he would work with Peter who was very articulate but he was so impulsive he was very impulsive and so how do you work with impulsivity in this realm that's what I found that's why I put that in that book for all the students because they said watch how he does it learn from not just his words and his prayers but look at his actions how patient he is how friendly how loving how he just regardless of what they're going through he's still connected he never holds it against them so yeah it's good it's synchronistic that you're going out to visit that man and read the Jesus I've looked through it it's a big book I've seen him Jesus yeah the last section the life and teachings I'll read his book good thanks for telling me that I'll do it with the goats me to read it unless you've just pointed that out you know I've suffered it it'll work once again it's all in place it all just clicks in and it all drops in our lap all we have to do is desire it and then everything else comes like a magnet comes rushing in the people were supposed to meet the books were supposed to read the movies were supposed to watch the lives were supposed to lead the lives were supposed to lead it's all scripted and given to us yeah it all happened at once anyway didn't it because it happened in a time this environment in an instant the books we trapped inside the dream there's no time outside of it so Jesus being outside of it you can see it from A to B you can see it from beginning to end in a way we can't comprehend but he can see what obstacles in our path we let him as he shows the way around them we don't let him we'll bang into them it's as simple as that I was just speaking at a course gathering over in in Colorado and I was saying you know it's like when it says Jesus is in charge of the plan of atonement because Gary kept recognizing that Jesus he kept emphasizing in his talk that Jesus wasn't a leader he was a follower and he just had to follow follow follow Holy Spirit and then when I got up to my talk I said yes that's exactly what he went through in his process of awakening but let's not forget he now is the leader of the plan he has completed his part perfectly and so I flipped it around and did my whole talk on he's the leader meaning if he's the leader and he says I can perform miracles through you I will arrange time and space for you if you will perform miracles but that means that everything that seems to be happening in all time and space even down to the tiniest nuances at the electronic at electron level or the subatomic particle level all of that is is audibly being arranged by by Jesus just for the atonement experience and what's even better is there never is a mistake that that the Christ because the Christ has completed his part perfectly is a is arranging time and space which is just really a past script that's over and done but he's literally using the symbols to bring the mind into that perfect alignment as the Christ and therefore that means all things do work together for good for those that love the Lord and the Bible and the Course it says there are no exceptions except in the ego's judgment and everything is in perfect divine order and it's only the ego that tries to add something to the script or take something away or say wonderful wonderful but it wants to throw a button in there things would be better if something was different and it's not the case things would never be better if they were different things are perfect exactly as they are always have been and always will be it's the divine order so that's but that's the state of mind that's in the mind you can't have that state of mind and keep judging the script all this it would have been a perfect meal except you know when you go to a restaurant no it is a perfect meal they didn't have my favorite oh no no no that don't be judging favorite things you know all the things that would make it less than perfect are the illusions it's always perfect it's amazing some of you remember Sam who was with me but she's down in Mexico where I just left and she had a quiet day yesterday and then she was stirred up and she went to the balcony and she watched from the balcony as this man group of men and this man as they put this they captured this puppy and they drug this puppy along and they began torturing this puppy and the more she just watched from the balcony and as they tortured it and tortured it she could just she was watching the whole scene before her and then they tied the puppy to a tree and that's when she just started screaming screaming but this was across the street in this Mexico they couldn't hear it was if she was just watching that whole scene for a purpose and she screamed and screamed and stop it stop it and then they took the pistol out and shot the puppy and she called me then she ran down to find looked for Lisa and she couldn't find anybody at the center and but it just it was one of those things that brought up so much intensity and then she just sent me a big long, long, long Facebook message like what is the purpose of this you know she loves animals and this whole thing of victims and powerlessness and helplessness and torture and cruelty it just brought everything was gushing up like a geyser from the unconscious because of that scene and so that's she's still dealing with it it was just one scene she just finds her mind so drawn to interpreting that what we were just talking about there has to be beyond the veil of these images of these past images there is that light that's still shining there and that's really that light is all there is to see the body's ears were made not to hear some of you have heard that acronym for fear false evidence appearing real it's a big trick to keep the mind stuck trapped in guilt and pain and fear and so what's the purpose of that scene that scene has only one purpose is the spirit using it in this timing to bring up the unconscious darkness so it can be handed over and seen to be impossible it has no other purpose that scene if you try to interpret that scene from a linear way it's shocking she kept saying to me I'm shocked my knees were quivering I was just quivering while I was watching it and then she started thinking you were just here and nothing ever happened like that my face was just here and then you all went off to your next places and why did I have to see this scene now and I said well it's just coming up into awareness because it's time the mind is giving permission saying okay it's time for me to face this belief in victimization this belief in powerlessness this belief in helplessness this belief in cruelty and it was doing it all of her projections onto men for her whole life her father any man she's ever known was all there brought to the surface just in watching that one scene and also the screaming and screaming and not being heard that was a pattern in her life of not speaking up and disconnecting and fear of speaking up and feeling like that none of the men in my life have ever listened to me they've never listened to me ever you know this was like screaming and it was like they just continued on with the whole scene without even hearing one word that was screamed and then boom with the pistol at the end that was like you know at the end the intensity around that but when you start to think of it that's whatever comes up into your awareness it's just that your mind is ready to forgive it you're reaching a point where it's been pushed out of awareness it's been buried and that's what the unconscious mind is it's just a bunch of assumptions and beliefs but the mind is so terrified of it doesn't even want to raise them to the light it doesn't ever want to see those thoughts or memories again but they have to be you might say overlooked with the light of the Holy Spirit and they have to be allowed up because they aren't going to get healed if they're pushed down and if they're pushed away from awareness they won't be healed that way so it's just whether we go through physical symptoms whether we seem to witness a scene like that people are watching nowadays I think Sylvester Stallone was just over and niece vacationing with his with his wife and his three children and just after he took a little self photo was when the whole the truck over there and the shootings and 80's some people killed and scores injured and everything and it was kind of on an idyllic southern Mediterranean French day fireworks going off celebrating the fireworks a summer day one of the most idyllic kind of settings this truck you know big truck going down the street knocking people over rolling over children people bodies flying like bowling pins and gun shooting gun and all this stuff these kind of things we were talking last night where it used to be it happened every once in a while but it seems like every day every week it's somewhere on the planet every day and it's just coming it's just this unconscious coming now coming into awareness and people have forecast earth changes for a long time well there's plenty of earth changes but there's a lot more going on than earth changes with suicide bombings and twin towers coming down and planes taking off from the Netherlands getting shot down just disappearing with missiles all kinds of things happening and you might say that's really part of our wake up call right now there's a soft voice inside saying my beloved child choose again it's just asking us to see the world differently and asking us to forgive the attack thoughts because if attack is real then pain is real then guilt is real then fear is real if attack is real and the whole belief that the mind could separate that we could pull our mind away from God and take on a whole perception that has nothing to do with God is the belief that God believes that separation is real and it's being acted out really in graphic terms now for us we even did a I don't know if Stephen and Vicki got a chance to see it but we did remember that video with with all those we put together a video of a lot of the seeming horrendous tragic scenes that have been going on and then we inter-spliced it with teachings from me speaking on the course and used it in combination with the graphic seeming violence to try to bring a bigger context like this is a wake-up call it's the only meaningful way to interpret our experiences now is a wake-up call the racial things that are going on in the United States you know I used to when I would travel to all these 40-some countries occasionally the State Department would issue warnings for travel in other countries for American citizens now when I was in Mexico for the first time there were countries in the world that were issuing warnings for travel to the United States because of the racial things police killings, riots you know protests that was targeted for that there really isn't racial situations in Dallas up to the point that that happened yeah the ego was like a place where the police worked together so much with the community Black Lives Matter and then the ego was like yeah well we'll just make that as an extreme point but that's what was happening here you can see this ego character in the movie like with the boy it rolls the apple it's eating the apple it rolls the apple out the boy falls over dies and then he goes it whispers he did it you see it's a total setup and then it's projected back on to Jesus right and that's what the ego does even in Dallas since that happened they wanted to cause separation but it didn't work they're all it was a great sign they'll start to hug each other I saw that video the police going out obviously what they wanted to happen happened and it's just so good it's a real start of a turn around the miracle that's why we're here we're here to demonstrate those miracles yeah that's a pretty intense video but we did another one on addiction all addiction is the desire for connection because addiction is so widespread with all the around the planet so we showed in graphic terms the addictions acted out all kinds of addictions and then brought into teachings because more and more we're getting people that are collaborating with graphic skills and things like let's put together teaching devices that show the intensity of the ego acted out and then offer the relief and offer the solution side by side let's put them side by side so those are that's part of our calling too is to make it if we have to learn through contrast then let's learn through contrast if it takes even extreme contrast then there's something going on in the mind saying bring it on we need to heal we need to face whatever whatever's been pushed away we have to face it this one movie reminded me of the line in The Matrix from Morpheus when he says to Neo, Wayne you know you're the one you won't have to dodge bullets like the whole thing was a demonstration of complete defensiveness it just made it so attractive to be constant like devotion to this firmness like you will not touch me I'm going to put back this thing that was a conductor not having to dodge a bullet so I can stop her in front of him yeah that's the one that's the one I sent to Sam so she can see it because there's a powerlessness, helplessness victim and it ends in that state of mind do not touch me where you have dominion over the world that's a workbook lesson from the course my capital self is ruler of the universe even in this world it is I that rule my destiny what happens is what I desire and what does not occur is what I do not want to happen that's very clear in the course we have dominion over the world we also have dominion in heaven because that's our natural state of oneness but even in this world he makes it very clear you're never the victim of anything you can choose to perceive yourself as the victim but that's not the truth not the reality it's a decision really isn't it decided to be that decided to be decided to take offense decided to be upset decided it wasn't you've always got a choice here because in oneness there isn't no choice there's just oneness what can you choose between oneness it's just oneness there's no judgement in oneness there's nothing to judge anything against it's just one thing like God has no name because when you're the only thing that exists why do you need a name we're in this opposite existence where everything is split and everything because it's opposite there's conflict in oneness there's no conflict there's no oneness there's no conflict so it's perfect please yeah there's one part in the course with all the talk of forgiveness where he says awareness of dreaming is the function of God's teachers so you can't be the dreamer and a dream figure you can't be the Holy Son of God and a human being you can't be both it's one or the other and it's that causation thing you mentioned that if you are the dreamer of the world of dreams no other cause does it have or ever will so it's like the dreamer has to come back to the dreaming position and that's where from that position it's that say to mind don't touch me because we know that with nighttime dreams it doesn't matter if it's a fire breathing dragon if we're in a lucid dream ha ha ha I'm not this I'm not this character oh yeah you can throw all the flames you want because these bodies, your body is not real none of the bodies are real so that's that's it and to do that again is to have no investment in anything in the world that's why we're called like Buddha said too also to empty the mind of attachments because as soon as you think you attach to something and if you identify with something then you will defend it and if you want to be defenseless then you have to be detached from appearances there can't be any appearances I know for Sam that that was a big step I mean that's almost like her worst nightmare is what she saw they just saw her worst nightmare just acted out in graphic colors you know just from a balcony watching yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's it she's watched this she's been on that balcony before but this was like the scene in The Godfather or something where it's like here we go the horse head in the bed you know whatever the worst nightmare just got completely acted out and it can only be for forgiveness it can only be for this deep purge of all these thoughts it's the only purpose anything could have and that's that as extreme as that seems I still always quote that part in the course where Jesus says the dreams that you think can hold you back just as much as those in which the fear is entered so when you start to think of all the happy memories maybe with family and friends and whatever that shows you how sneaky the ego that thing that she watched is now a horrific memory that she's facing in her mind it's like a bright honor but the dreams you think you like can hold you back as much as those in which the fear is entered because dreams are dreams there aren't good dreams bad dreams we've got the Star Trek episode that I show over and over that we labeled it's called the emissary but we call it time's end because it's you know everybody knows the Star Trek the Klingons, the Borg, the Romulans you know all the different ones they pierce they go through a wormhole and they pierce all the time and space and move into a complete abstract light they come encounter with the light cannot understand opposites it cannot it's always you know it's he's protesting he even tries to talk about baseball how how exciting baseball is and and basically the light's response to as he describes how the pitcher pitches the ball and the hitter swings and the ball could go anywhere inside these lines and he's talking about how he values not knowing what's coming next and the light says you value your ignorance of what is to come that's the reply from the light to all of his enthusiasm about baseball and it goes on with his relationship with his child everything that's valuable seemingly to the ego in this world this little episode that I show is 35 minutes and then my commentary coming in even down to romance where he's thinking of the memory of how he he's watching a memory of him kissing his wife on a picnic on a little picnic and then and he's got this face like oh he's missing so missing that and the light's right there going like this because the light doesn't know what lips are and the light doesn't know what a kiss is it's deep because most of the time you're always facing different species but this takes you actually to abstraction of just pure light beyond duality beyond opposites completely and that's why I keep showing that little 35 minute clip over and over and over because it's a spectacular teaching device as far as for Course in Miracle students it's top of the line it's a spectacular Was that an episode or part of the film? It was part it was an episode from Deep Space Nine and it was called The Emissary and I put it in my Quantum Forgiveness Book too for people to watch as one of their exercises when they're going through forgiveness but you know most movies don't ever have the light as the contrast it's always just images battling and thriving, fighting, trying to win you know all the even Star Wars the light and the dark force and everything and there's some big battle this was just pure abstraction beyond all of the images so yeah that's a good one if you get a chance to see that one that's really good it's amazing I get really animated when I teach using really deep teaching tools too I get like a child and get really excited and that's what our movie watchers guide to enlightenment about we put a lot of movies really good teaching movies but with lots of spliced in commentary to kind of penetrate even deeper through what the movie is teaching you know I think Jesus is having fun with the movies right now he's like these he's my latest or wait till that one comes out with you and McGregor and be like ha ha ha it's all over and done for the ego the war is over it never began it never began


Hi everyone, Joe for jazzycasebreaks.com with a quick little hobby pack break, our last filler to unlock that hip parade break. Big thanks to this group for making it happen. There are all 30 basketball teams in there right now, and let's do our first dice roll. Names and teams, three and a one, four times. One, two, three, and a one, four. Different dice roll for the giveaway part as always. Why my Lakers are down six to the Spurs in the third, two minutes left in the third, don't like that. Three and a one, four times for the teams, one, two, three, four. That's where the Bears go, well, remember the Bears are the ones, although that front office group is no longer there. I was going to say the Bears did trade up for Mitchell Drabisky. Here's the first half of the list right here. I think the guys in those front offices are no longer there. There's the second half of the list right there. We'll rip this pack and we'll re-randomize that list. See who wins those hip parade spots. That's coming up in a couple videos. I think the full spot sold a little bit later. Got a one box break coming up right after this and then got that hip parade break done. Oh, got an autograph. Is that an autograph? It is. Wow. Nice. Clyde the Glide Drexler. That will be for Dilo and the Portland Trailblazers last spot mojo strikes again. And a one pack break? That's usually harder to do, but there you go. Not bad for a filler pack.  Gather everybody's names one through 30. New dice, new list. And let's roll it, randomize it, one and a five. Top 10 after six, one, two, three, four, five. And fingers crossed, sixth and final time. So from 11 on down, Daniel, not quite, 11 through 30 sad times. Thank you, everyone, for giving this shot. We'll get him next time. Top 10 though, you're in that hip parade break. Craig, you're in. Daniel, you got in. And again, and again. Steve Burch, Tristan, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel. Steve Burch. I wasn't too worried about Daniel not getting in. There you go. Top 10. There you go, gang. I'm Joe for jaspeescasebreaks.com. I'll see you in the next break. Bye-bye.


Okay, so we ask him pedigrees how many forces, you know, what causes change? What causes particles to come together and fall apart? He says love and hate, two different forces, love and hate, harmony and disharmony. We ask Gana Xagoras what causes forces to come together and fall apart, objects to come together and fall apart. He says it's one force, mind, right? It causes the vortex and we get the spin. All right, we ask Lusipus the Democrat is what causes atoms to come together and fall apart? And they say, random, there is no force. It just happens. There is no force. It just happens. So we ask what causes all these objects to exist and they say nothing. It's random.


f clientele ones so i'd build a good clientele with a lot of ones so and just build an experience from there on you know yeah and it's not like you and the passengers i mean you you you build relationships with them don't they i mean you're short time with mangan tours uh you made a lot of friends yeah i met a lot of good friends a lot of good people too as well and uh it was a great time there when i served there and a lot of people appreciated my time and effort put into them and did a few lovely things outside the box you know for valentine's day i used to buy flowers this year for every every female on the bus like you know going in my way but i'll be a bit extra too as well you know there's kindness and in that job as well it's just not a bus driver like you're you're more than a bus driver kind of i see mangan tours put out a post looking for customers to post any photos any photos they had of you any what was your favorite any favorites there or anything embarrassing no uh no uh well there's uh joseph had a few ones here uh i think he put a one up there one time the first way come back from manchester we were and um we was having for the dinner you know on the ferry across and we seen the sort of sauce you know i thought jeez this looks quite nice you know and uh put over the spuds with the pine all of a sudden i found it was just custard like so but uh he laughed at them thinking it was funny but it tasted well he don't give it a shot to anybody like okay uh you did a few airport runs did you for people gigging in this region anyone interested in the vanguard boys done a bell fast run the whole way down from bell fast the whole way down the uh down the dairy bag there did a bit of uh busing so literally the vanguard boss was coming yeah we were fairly through we made it happen that night so we did it anyway like so with a good crack or just they were good or chilled out they were nice people had a talk and and things like that we played a few tunes and had a couple good laughs and stuff like that so it was definitely entertaining on the day it was like so and do you like it i think it depends on what kind of bus work you do you know there's the school bus work there's the tour bus work and there's the bus air and mcginley's coach kind of stuff work you know the longer haul stuff uh do you think it takes a particular type of personality to do the longer runs because you know i mean obviously you're fully focused but you're for a lot of the time too you're alone in your own head as well yeah yeah because if you're normally really chatting what i kind of do is um whoever sits in the front of the bus and stuff like that i tend to have a chat with them but you're still concentrating on the road at all times um but there's nice and draggy people at brexit on for you too as well um but there is a level of concentration on that job yeah uh day-to-day basis um because it's it's tiring it's a little a little bit like this job and i'm not comparing our two jobs but you you know like you use a lot of energy in concentrating all the time yeah you know what i mean you do so people are thinking all right you're sitting on your backside it's not really like that because it's a i don't know if it's a nervous energy or whatever but you tend to use quite a lot of your energy just with pure focus and concentration yeah when you're driving especially a coach at size like a 13 meter coach you know and you're thinking you're always two steps ahead in front of yourself you're always on the lookout around about people walking kids leaving school the level of concentration there is that you need to be up there with the best you know it always takes takes a split second and it could be an accident within one of the last seconds i'm thinking that you've been mistaken for a celebrity yes that's right don't tell me about that uh well we did me and joseph we did the trip to paris last year in france two of um of different parts of france is beautiful beautiful country to see and um we're heading to paris today and i'll be whining people up in the boss and having to crack with them and saying i'm a big i'm a big star here being over here a few times now they know they know me quite well and they're like i patty whatever you think yourself we got on to the ferry on the way boat the way you want for a trip down down to chansley's a and stuff like that and we went back to the back of the boat me and joseph and um he said sort of the back of the boat there patty we got a picture you know you make it a few pictures for your facebook page i said sure why not all of a sudden i was back at the boat taking a picture all of a sudden all the chinese ones were coming over to us i mean so they were like so they thought you were something you are something but you know what i mean so they must have something else and uh i joseph he did some laugh and so he did i don't know he has a buddy with me he said i don't know how the phone and there are family pictures kids pictures the whole lot they were so yeah but i mean like there's a there's families in china now like with with a picture of you uh and them in a frame the famous patty gambler from europe like what uh on the on their uh on the kitchen table or even better again maybe up on the the bullet boards around uh china somewhere you never know who's to say right that was some of the highs what was the low points low points at driving um you know the days are long and fairness you know but um you take the good with the bad and these jobs and and stuff like that but what you take the good things more than the bad things sort of like your people the people you chat to every day you know on track with you know it makes the day a lot easier but um apart from that i was really there's no really low days in the job because you're getting to travel around like manchettes or liverpool different traps meeting new people and having a crack we fuck up guys and stuff like that's nice and stuff like that so more good than bad great did i hear you accidentally once tried to deliver a bridge down in dublin oh no that was uh people said one accident you had i said none so far touch wood like but the when you're gonna double all low bridges over in dublin like you know you always get nabbed with low bridges down the road so you're trying to turn a 13-meter bus and there's a bridge on this end it's only a 3.2 and your bus is 3.6 so that's not gonna squeeze it that's not gonna squeeze it today and but apart from that uh it's funny at the time you're trying to turn and the people's laughing and having a joke about you said i took a wrong turn and but i used to get a you get a good laugh out of it too as well like there's always there's a huge demand on for drivers at the moment both drivers um would you encourage people to get into it i think you know for the younger people now it's uh they haven't you know it's not coming through but i definitely would recommend any young person to go for this uh you know it's just more than the drivers they're great like you're meeting a lot of people you're interact with a lot of ones uh there's good points in the job people think and those of it let's come in on 21 before you can do the coach and softly get there's not one lord every 18 you don't have that opportunity like but i would highly recommend the job to anyone yeah it's a great because there's already a shortage and it seems with the way they're digging up the schools somewhat have you the shortage is only going to get uh is only going to get greater and also too we have depending on on who you drive for you know this limit that you have to sort of retire i think particularly with the boss air and runs at 70 would you do you think that needs to be changed i'd be honest with you i think you don't want to drive i think um in your late in your years to drive you could drive 30 years i think you know 60 is more more than enough of driving within one period of time you know um and i just come from myself i'd love to retire when i'm about maybe 60 they can you know put the feet up and relax you don't your time you know it's i think 70 your concentration you have to change your license every three years things like i think 60 will be more than more than enough to get it finished so it's the fellow a long way from 60 or 70 but yeah that's it what what age are you now i'm the 37 right we'll come back to you in in uh 33 years and see if you're ready to hang up the steering wheel i'm hoping that fingers crossed i'll be able to hang up very shortly let's see uh hi my name's david gala her paddy gamble is my first cousin and a longtime friend could you ask him for me how uh how we're getting on and does he have any pumpkins for sale he will do nothing but love oh that's the story with the pumpkins uh if it's okay yeah we will like um well the whole thing about the pumpkins was i was selling anything to be honest with you and halloween came around you know i'll be dressing up for halloween stuff we had done actually this year i had a halloween outfit trained around the coach of me and sweet letter candy there's a video of me and that too as well there is but i do hang for a laugh and as the pumpkins came up and uh i thought jeez i might you know make a few point here make a couple of good ones like and i started making them sell them well you were cutting them out and all i cut them out the whole lot and i put the lights on them and uh the whole lot that's how david the sell david if you saw it did like did you make any money out of it no nothing nothing like a penny well anyway uh david also said i want to wish him the very best he's one of a kind and has touched the hearts of everyone he's ever met tell him i'm very proud of him and to keep doing what he's doing he's the best all right which is quite nice so you are going to europe are you i'm gonna head to europe greg i'm gonna give it a give it a go so where did you know where you're going yet uh there's uh it was two months of training first greg yeah involved so i'm heading off down saturday uh to get the flight to london and take off from london the end of two months training and it's over there's like uh there's istanbul not there's uh barcelona nice venice um florence uh athens it's a full full variety around europe so i've seen the opportunity i thought rather do it now than later in life and yeah you get to see a lot you get to see a lot and you know and learn all the ones i've you know met here in ireland and stuff like that and you know you use their jokes and on they travel down the next time around that's the that's the plan greg and i saw that's a plan to use all the the the the the dad jokes you've heard from foreigners over the last couple of years turning back on them over and that's that uh definitely uh and you know what kind of bus driving you'll be doing will it be like you know fixed runs tours just all tours greg every tours um there's uh like 45 day tours and 12 day tours nine day tours all different different regions and stuff like that and this i'm not asking anything personal here but do they actively seek you guys out or did you just research it and say right i could i'm just wondering about the act because if we have a shortage here generally there's a shortage there's gonna be shortage you know so for short nurses they're gonna be short nurses elsewhere we're sort of doctors lorry drivers bus drivers so are they actively recruiting the likes of yourself they recruit fairly year and year right there you know people come and go and every every job and that's every expect so i think um i see it online and i thought you know have a go yeah i'll have a go and if i pass it i pass it if i don't i don't you don't know if i'll die you know um i suppose is there a big difference sitting on the other side of the bus and driving on the other side of the road i've done it once so far but haven't drove on the left side driving yet but i've drove on other side of the road like of course you have an european one there with joseph and um that was good i really enjoyed it people say around about but you can't go off you can't go off the list around but once you figure it out you're good to go then yeah right you know but it's just to keep keep you aware uh can you say hello to paddy gamble from rosalie mcdate he's a gentleman and will be missed oh that's really i know rosie from larry kenney i know about a hundred and every person gets my boss about a hundred and fifty people i know all about their first name yeah the whole lot of my first day of life i think it's a i think it's a nice touch i think people should learn people on your bus they should know there's nothing uh for some people there's nothing nicer than hearing your own name and that's not an ego thing or nothing it just means that the person cares that's that i think you know we do have these small but if they say hello good morning russian or at least our stuff we get to make say geez he knows me like in stuff like that so it's nice what's the most popular name on that run then if you know 150 of them um good question so good i'm trying to thank you i see uh market is a bit good five markets on it's a good five markets on it's like all right margaret all right uh you finished with mangan now are you mangan first i've been mangan there last week there we kind of had to be small get together once on the bus came out there in a seven we had a good laugh and a good couple of jokes and stuff like that and you're heading to london on saturday morning all right well listen come here we wish i mean obviously it's a it's a loss to the people that think so highly of you and for for mangan tours as well but it's you know it's a new horizons for you who would uh who would um who would deny anyone that uh tell parry said hello he's a lovely fellow pure gentleman sarah gallagher oh she's from fucker that's exactly yeah i know of every stop every location the whole logic and name any person and i can name where they're from so you do that in germany we don't know yeah we'll give that a go that fair is that well listen come here we it's not something interesting get you in time for we chat and learn a little bit about the work that you do and uh the life of a bus driver you'd recommend it is he's how do you recommend how do you recommend the job like it's it's a great job debilion it's the best it's the best job i've been in a long time like so uh i've been through if you're good job like so it's the best job i've been in all right patty we'll listen best to look with your career as you go forward and as i say you'll be sadly missed on the route that you're on and the people that know you but as i say onwards and upwards uh and it's been lovely having you in thank you very much and nicola da hearty says yes patty has things you know where nicola is nicola dordy the tests run she probably has you she's probably on your bus probably not like a problem probably just saying hi maybe uh no i'm not too sure i'm trying to think there's a lot of people texting me they're going saying oh what time you on what time you on it yeah so there's a lot of stuff coming through there really all right listen it's been great having you in as i say uh continued success to you and uh thanks no more great thank you the county's number one talk show the nine till noon show on highland radio the nine till noon show is brought to you by letter kenny credit union digital loans now available apply online or via our app today and get your loan transferred directly to your current account make real savings at supervalue with great special offers like this friday and saturday only pop in for selected small and medium cadbury and nestle easter eggs any five for five euro exclusive to real rewards members only plus money off vouchers every week on the app pop in store online for real savings at 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now you're welcome it's good to be here how uh how big of a decision was it to lay up lay it all out on the table you know because this is kind of a subject a lot of people might want to bury their heads on pretend it doesn't exist focus on something else because this is too unimaginable too painful and i'm only on about readers let alone the the victims of of this one of the worst crimes that anyone could perpetrate so how difficult was it sort of say right i'm gonna put it all out there um it has been extremely difficult it wasn't an easy decision to make um initially after his death i consulted my sisters before i'd even spoken out about it to make sure that they were happy enough with me speaking out and you know the reason behind speaking out was because of victims like myself you know and not just his victims but all victims out there you know just to have to have experienced what we experienced and what was published in the the media before whenever he was you know going through the court process and convicted um it was for other victims to you know not have to sit on watch that you know their abusers would then be you know be lauded and you know in death and and everything that they had done wrong was forget forgotten about and and also to in telling this story it's obviously the abuse that you will put through from the age of eight by your stepfather but it's also everything else that goes on in the house you know what i mean it's you know you know there's an awful lot to this story yeah um on top of the you know this the abuse that i suffered there was also the domestic violence and the domestic abuse that occurred you know the various elements of course of control and um do you know i wanted to try and describe that as best i could so that people could understand and i know myself from personally reading books whenever i was younger and and going through certain stages and you know my healing process that reading some books helped me and i wanted this book to be the same for other people who were were experienced in their own like you know putting my son to bed last night and it's that safe space you're talking about is in bed and he's happy now and you put the monitor on and make sure he's happy and safe and content and when he's younger you check to make sure he's breathing and all that stuff you go through i i'm so sorry um amanda that from from the age of eight to fifteen going to bed for you must have just been you know instead of it being your safe comfortable space for people to love and care and protect for you it was a nightmare for you almost every every night and it's it's so so hard to even comprehend what you've been through yeah it wasn't even just that going to bed wasn't safe for me it was just generally the house that i lived in wasn't safe and that was from the age of about four um you know so i understand what you're saying because i have a son and he's free to be and and you know just he's safe here at home and he can be and feel whatever he needs to where from i was a very young age i was walking on eggshells you know trying to manage this man's mood through fear that he would kick off and either hit my mum or you know that whatever would happen to us just before we talk about i want you to sort of explain to the listener how you tell your story rather than me trying to interpret it because i think that's really important that you make that direct connection with them i'm also sort of conscious in this day and age and it kind of often comes back to this now that if this book was written 10 years ago you know i think you'd be generally exposed to to people who are sympathetic to you or what have you but we do live in an age now on social media that some people seem to derive pleasure from maybe further victimizing you or there's two sides of the story or all the stuff that you might see on social media have you been exposed to that do you do you keep that out of your life is it something you're conscious of or maybe hopefully it's not something you've experienced um after his death when i first spoke out there was you know a lot of pushback i haven't been paying attention this time around because i've been aware of there will be people who will still not want to believe that he was who he was you know and you know for some people regardless of whether it was 10 years ago or or now there are people who will always not want to believe that this kind of stuff happens um on their own doorstep practically so i haven't been paying attention to any of that i haven't you know haven't been made aware of it and you know i just i'm not interested in anybody who wants to try and say that there were two sides to any story the message is out there for for victims and it's not for anybody else who wants to further victimize or abuse people yeah very good okay so tell us how you tell the story in this book and how you wanted the leader the reader to sort of uh you know go through that this journey with you um well the way that i had written the book was um i was writing it whenever i was writing it was writing you know the memories as they come up for me um and i did have a fantastic editor who helped me fill in the you know just add color to it because where i was sort of like putting the building blocks of the actual story down she helped to pull out you know the the finer detail you know in terms of what were you were and what was your granny's house like you know things like that to help immerse the reader that way a bit more and bring them on that journey with me because that's what i wanted to do is it's not that i want to traumatize anybody or make anybody feel sorry for me i want them to walk that journey with me to show how awful it has been and have been as honest and open as i can be in terms of um how palatable it'll be for people to read um and i just wanted to pull them through that journey to where i'm at now in terms of you know as well as in terms of where i'm at now on a personal level it's it's also that whole idea that society perceives victims and abusers you know as they're portrayed in the movies and you know abusers can be charismatic um outgoing pillars it's a community community and then you know victims can also be strong assertive you know people too so it's about helping to change the narrative and the ideas of her you know around that and i also want people who have experienced any of these issues to see themselves in this book you know to be able to relate and see themselves and also you know there was this time 14 years ago was whenever i was planning well i would have been dead by now if i had of went through with my own suicide and i felt you know reading a book like this might have helped me hang on in there yeah because it is a it is a story of your recovery as well and that's also a journey that you invite the reader on and uh i kind of get the impression that you hope that someone at your lowest is reading the book and it they hold on and and find their own path to recovery yeah i do i hope that you know the the purpose of this book has been that it will help people um as i said they'll maybe see themselves and this you know within the pages of this book that they'll see themselves and they'll face seen and you know with that then know that there is a path to to the other side yeah and how difficult was the the trial for you it was it was incredibly difficult it was so challenging um you know stepping into it without ever having been in a courtroom before in my life i'd only ever seen you know court stuff on tv and movies and you know programs um so i'd never been in a court before in my life it was really daunting um but as well as that you know there was a there was it was an open court and you know i had the press behind me i had people who were there supporting him um you know i obviously there were people there who were supporting me and witness support were fantastic and you know coming in and out of the court with me as well but then you do this jury of peers and you're talking about something that is that people don't want to talk about you know it's one of the most difficult things for anybody to to discuss and delay yourself so bear and to be so vulnerable um and at a point in time when you're not actually properly healed from either you know you're not even anywhere near you know healing from what you've experienced and you're just there to like just open this this wound it was incredibly difficult mentally and emotionally and and then he um died in a motorcycle incident in october 2021 um after the trial what was the emotions at that point when you heard that news because i mean it's kind of maybe hinted at in the in the title of the book but yeah well initially there was a bit of disbelief initially i didn't want to believe it until i had actually seen it in black and white for myself um and it was because i didn't want to let my guard down you know i didn't want to can we take that that breath out you know when you you realize you've been holding your breath for a while and you just let your breath out i did i didn't want to do that until i was sure um and yes whenever i was sure there was the initial concern from my sisters and how they would feel about it being his daughter their daughter you know they were his daughters um so i had concern for them and you know how it would impact them and how they would feel about it but you know once once i had spoken with them i knew that they were okay that's when i just you know i i took my breath do you know it was a relief it felt like you know there was peace now yeah and there's a lot of chapters uh there's a lot of chapters in the book that people will relate to in different ways and i think one that i haven't had an opportunity to read yet by myself what i think will be interested in is is chapter 15 the burden of guilt yeah um the guilt that i have carried and i think this is with any kind of sexual trauma it's not just exclusive to me um you do carry a tremendous amount of guilt with you especially upon hearing about you know other people whenever it was just me i was able to hold it inside this wee box and you know compartmentalize it and put it away and just build my life around it but whenever other people started speaking up that's when the guilt really really took over and i went to a place of you know if i was that child again i would have just ran into my mom screaming and let her know what what had happened and then all of these other people wouldn't have been hurt but like as my counselor in nexus had said to me at the time you know you're looking at this through the the lens of an adult you know but you were a child acting on you know what you knew at that time so you know but like i still hold a lot of guilt and it's not not as much and it's not as um heavy as what it used to be but it's i still do hold some guilt you know you're a qualified reflexologist and aromatherapist and your business is registered as a safe space for victims of domestic violence why is that important and do we need more of that i wonder i think we do need more of it it was very important to me um i to make sure that i was registered as a safe space i work within the community so you know my business premises is within the community and it is important to me that there are more places like this that you know primarily these places are like in churches or you know schools and you know places like that and and that's that's great that you have that opportunity but um if you're as a person who is suffering from domestic violence you know if you're being watched um you know when your school is a safe place you're not going to have the time to go in and talk to anybody um you know in terms of something like that because you're probably your time's being monitored so they'll be you go to the school and you come back again you should be home by this time but if you're coming for a treatment like i think more hairdressers should be registered safe places um and so if you're coming for a treatment here and you know you want to open up and tell me you have got the time because you would assume that you've told your partner you know where you're going to be and how long you're going to be away for so you have that time you know to talk to whoever you need to talk to you know i i will sign post and what i can help do as well is you know plan you know along with the appropriate services and agencies i will help plan you know the exit strategy so to speak one amazing um service to be able to help uh help with so of course just in relation to to the type of book this is it is obviously um it's a tough a tough subject it is harrowing but it's also hopeful uh as well uh there's that hopeful element to this and it is also about your path and i'm sure it's an onward journey it's not you're not at your destination now uh fully at your destination now maybe you never might be but it's about your path to recovery uh as well and and you hope it helps people as well as informs people and listen we can't hide away from from the sub tough subjects because it because it sometimes it's hard we have to know we have to understand uh because we have to try as much we can present prevent this ever happening again okay um thanks so much for your time i really do genuinely appreciate it amanda and best wishes uh for you and uh all take care of yourself yep thank you bye that's amanda brown her book is out now it is called no peace until he's dead my story of child abuse at the hands of davie tweed and my journey to recovery watch the show live now on youtube facebook and at highland radio dot com the night until noon show with letter kenny credit union now offering mortgages from 40 000 to 600 000 euro with no hidden fees or transaction charges letter kenny credit union 9102127 this mother's day go all oudy to spoil your mom's silly from 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wednesday the 6th of march that is tomorrow it's between 11 a.m and 1 p.m the events being held in conjunction with and to raise funds for bonkrana community first responders group everybody is welcome to come along to learn a little bit about first aid while also enjoying tea coffee and treats that's tomorrow between 11 a.m and 1 p.m at bonkrana garter station so just to mark your card down hi greg i just don't understand what a durable relationship is and in what time frame does this relationship become durable two weeks two months a year confused and not voting says the listener another no ordinary person has a clue what they're being asked to vote for and on it goes uh right okay get to more of your comments as this morning wears on but i want to welcome on to the program now uh councillor reena donahoe of the finafall party uh confirming to us yesterday evening that she does not intend to seek reelection this june councillor donahoe very good morning to you thanks so much for joining us good morning greg thank you very much how tough a decision is this for you to make reena yeah well i suppose um we're now approaching the the during the election greg and after careful consideration with my family and friends uh i have reached a significant decision regarding my involvement so i suppose with a blend of emotions i have decided not to contact the local election however i firmly believe that it is the right um decision for me at this juncture in my life a job i feel that a job can be replaced great but precious time what the family cannot be so as you know the passage of time is a relentless force uh and i was as a reflect on the future i recognize that the fleeting uh nature of certain moments my grandchildren who are now in their infancy will inevitably grow older and i'm determined to cherish and prioritize these precious years with them we have a new wee baby in our house at home we molly and it's hard to go out every day and leave her so um at the next election she would be five and i would have mustered on those precious young years so i have just decided that it's the right time for me now to bow out and hopefully my party will get somebody uh younger and with fresher ideas and fresh blood and we can move on yeah i think it's it's a lovely reason too um and you framed it so well there reena who would begrudge you uh that precious time with your grandchildren and also 30 years of service to the people of inichown and donigol having been first elected in in in 1994 in 1994 do you think you would ever have imagined that you would end up with 30 years under your belt that you'd be the kahirlock of your municipal district or the town council on numerous occasions that you had the top seat in donigol county council as kahirlock of the council did you imagine that ahead of you i wonder in the mid 90s no to be honest and and i never ever would have imagined myself going into politics either um it wasn't something that i had thought of um i had been working on social welfare for almost 13 years and then i was asked to run for um election in 1994 and i thought oh my god i know nothing about this i know nothing about politics i know nothing about roads or sewer or housing or all of those services that you need to know a lot about but anyway um they came back and they asked me on two or three um different occasions what would i run and eventually i did and it was a funny situation because i i i did run to put one of my own party members out a party member god rest dermith mclaughlin lost to seek because i ran and it took me a long time to get over that to be honest because i thought oh my god they have asked me to run dermith would have asked me as well to run and then i got him and he was put out so i i that didn't lie well with me to be honest so then in uh 1999 um i was canvassing before that for secinct evening with woolly o'dean and i remember woolly o'dean said to me what are you doing in mcdonald town council you should be in the county council every door that that i go to you're you're very well known well i would have been well known simply because i did walk on social welfare and at that time it was very different than social welfare because the people from within a six mile radius radius all came in to collect the money and the office so i would have got to know one awful lot of people and i would have did volunteer work for the community advice the information society there was no paid person there then so i did that for about five years on a volunteer capacity just given information and that so i suppose i was kind of fairly well known and that was why i was asked in the first place but as i say woolly o'dean then mario carlin mario carlin came along and 99 as well and she asked me to to go for the county instead of the town no it was a big leap leap because to get elected to um wonkland town council you probably would be elected was maybe say 200 folks but to get out to the county council depending on how many would be running you might need 2000 votes it was a big leap but uh the people put their trust in me and um and i was elected and there i am since from from then until now but no you're right i never i never would have envisaged a day one going in i mean my family would have been always been a fall but that was kind of as far as it went but um no something there's something about politics when you're in there and when it comes to the next election you're eager to go again i don't know why it's just something that gets into your blood and you just say no i'm one in five years is up i'm not going to go again and then under five years comes up you definitely do go again and that's that's just try to explain but that's how it is no i get you now so um regardless of political background uh we've you know had very strong women in in in the council uh sadly obviously we still mourn the loss of noreen magarvy marita raise gala her say she's not running again uh you're not uh contesting it again which leaves neve kennedy currently is the sole female representative um it's important i think that as much as is possible a council reflects its public you know uh it's a you know that's a loss to politics obviously with noreen said very tragic and um far too soon passing but also your decision of marita raise um you wonder the makeup of the next council yeah no no that that doesn't lay easy with me the fact that that marita raise has gone marita raise was a fantastic uh public representative and then uh noreen's demise was an awful awful awful shock and um now that i am going and there's poor neve as as as there on our own and i just i'd love to be honest i would love to see the gender balance improve greatly uh on the council you do need women there is absolutely no doubt about it and i'm not saying that women make better councillors than men but they have a different outlook uh you need them there um but at greg it's not a 95 job it's not a five day week job you know um people have families and children although things have changed now men play a bigger part in rearing the children than what was what what i would have started and i have to say my husband was very good and very supportive and so was my family and that's what allowed me to stay there but um we definitely need a gender balance on the counter at the council and we have to do something about it we have to change things but do you know what it's very difficult to get people to um put their name forward yeah that's it you know it's got names on and especially you know um i think to the established parties they have a job to do in that regard as well because it can be particularly hard for independents or those from smaller parties to get over the line but listen there's there's going to be there's options there now because there's a lot of people including yourself not contesting the next election again um over the like it's a thankless task to some extent really because you know you don't get the credit for often for when things are going well but you get all the blame when things going bad it's tough tough life elected politics or sticking you had above the parapet i mean is there a political low point for you um rena uh because i want to finish on the high point you see so i don't want you think i'm being overly negative but i mean what is there a something that jumps out at you maybe at the beginning it was displacing uh displacing um displacing another counsellor but i mean what over the course of the 30 years what what has been the low point for you the things have always been fairly good um i don't think there was any low points as such um no there were many very good points and very happy times but there's nothing that was a low point that particularly jumps out to me apart from the demise of some of our our work colleagues and that you know you see a lot of annoying memories sometimes yeah exactly that was tough yeah but on the on the on the positive side i mentioned uh what you've achieved previously in terms of you know chair of the town council the admissible district kirik of the council chair of etb as well i know you have a strong interest in education uh chair of the advisory board of the digital hub in boncranatou uh which is a a recently new initiative uh is what what is the highlight then or maybe it's just the the 30 years i don't know it's up to you rena what's the highlight of your well i suppose i yeah i suppose um getting getting the entry of office and the and the garter station to boncranatou this is going back a wee bit in time but we this was this was when we talked about decentralization when decentralization was a big thing and we worked very very very hard um to get a social welfare office until and the garter station to boncranatou now by god that was not easy but we fought tooth and nail and i remember um there came a deadline when it was said no we talked about this for a long time about deafness to boncranatou and deafness sight and all of this then there came a deadline then uh out of the blue which said any sites that are not already bought will not be getting the decentralization from Dublin and other parts of the country but because we thought so hard and we had the site bought not an awful not that much before that deadline we got not only did we get the entry of office but as part of that we have the national child benefit office in boncranatou if you had a baby in cork you have to contact boncranatou to get your child um uh registered and all of that we also have the national record section in boncranatou and with the headquarters of the garter station which is brilliant okay in more recent times we yeah we've got the new cocktail bridge and i remember myself and others going to a meeting in Dublin to meet the minister pascal donner who at the time who had the poor strength and at that meeting at the end of the meeting uh pascal had said we would get a fuck bridge now there was a lobby group at the at that time and i'm not going to mention any names who only wanted a fuck bridge for coca to get the children safely over to school so he alluded then that that we would get a fuck bridge and i remember and the rest of the councils that are listening would be able to tell you this i stood up at the meeting and i said pascal i really appreciate the money for a fuck bridge in coca we are the entrance uh to north and if you own we have the parish church there that's where the females are we have a very large school there we have uh four football pitches we need um a proper bridge and coca yeah and three weeks later we got the money for the bridge and that was fantastic and it's working terribly well there were backups there right out to coca every day in the week a fuck bridge was going to be no good to us so we got that and we didn't then we got the swan park which is fantastic the football there every day not just on a good day but every day that is that is brilliant and that was walked on by a lot of concerts not just me nobody should feel themselves thinking that they can do all this and they're all at needs to be done collectively and the councils have always they've always worked very well together worked well rena listen thank you very much i'm sure i'm sure many within fina full have been campaigning for you to try and uh to try and change your mind but i presume the lady's not for turning you've made it well they do want me to rethink it and they do want me to rethink it and please change my mind but no i think i have to put family force this time and just to um thank thank you i have a lot of people that i need to thank particularly the electorate who kept me there for all this time and uh my family as i said and all the great camaraderie that we had in leford the country concerts and i cannot forget the media yourselves in highland and the dunnig all papers who have always been fair and balanced in your reporting and the photographers who attend up so many events and we'd call them to take one more photograph and all of that so we just must remember all of that so people were good to know many good times or yes there were some lows as well but it was mainly mainly good times and thanks very much for everything no problem and listen um as i say it's you're making the decision for all the right reasons who would begrudge you spending time with your lovely family have a uh well we'll chat probably chat between uh now and then but in any case lots of good wishes coming in for you and uh we wish you all the best in your uh retirement from elected politics thanks very much rena thanks very much great care cancel arena donahe there wish rena all the best from marion and pious who says you've served your community well and we hope you enjoy your retirement uh greg what great sadness to hear cancel arena donahe used to retirement what a wonderful person and canceler as a whole will be sadly missed best wishes to her new venture another rena is bowing uh i'll come back to that one it's a bit negative i will allow it to be said but uh just want to focus on the positive just for the moment best of luck to rena on her retirement you've done great work for the people who've been shown over the years i wish you well from mary in remelton and just uh one uh rena is bowing out because she knows that feeling full will not do well because of uh my cable that remains to be seen that does remain to be seen okay listen um we'll be back with the weather the night until noon show is brought to you by letter kenny credit union with monster loans available up to 60 000 euro for all occasions visit letterkennycu.ie if you need a new laptop enjoy super fast performance and seamless multitasking with the vita laptops at ben swinney ironix the vita laptops are equipped with advanced processors and ample ran so they handle everything from work to entertainment with ease they come with a two-year warranty 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