Welcome to the Vitality Stadium, or if you prefer the old name, Dean-Court, for the Premier League match between Bournemouth and Liverpool. Just the third time these clubs have met in league competition, Bournemouth, of course, have spent the majority of their existence in the lower leagues. Liverpool, with 44 major trophies to their name, are England's most decorated club. Referee today is Bobby Madley, who's come all the way from Yorkshire to take charge of this. The Bournemouth team this week, significantly stronger than that last time out at Arsenal. Arta Borrex returns from a back injury in goal. In front of him, Adam Smith reverts to right back. Nathan Ake moves to left back. Charlie Daniels, still an absentee with a hip problem. In centre midfield with Andrew Sermon Hamstrung, it's the trusted duo of Gosling and Arta. And in the number 10 role, Jack Wilshire is restored after being ineligible last week. Josh King and Junior Stanislas providing the win. Callum Wilson is the main striker. He has four goals so far this season. The cherries have only scored three times in the last five outings. Former Liverpool players Jordan Ibe and Brad Smith are both on the bench. 27 goals in seven Premier League games yesterday, seven outright victories. Today a brilliance and a bad behaviour. All part of the regular Premier League soap opera. So, away we go. Bournemouth in the black and the red. Liverpool in the psychedelic mixture of greenish-yellow. It should make them stand out on a dark night, but in fact, it's a very bright afternoon. An early word about the Bournemouth formation. Looking at it, Simon Francis has gone right back. Steve Cook and Nathan Ake. The left side is central defender Adam Smith on the left side of that four. It's been re-digged a little bit. No problem for Simon Francis playing there, of course. Adam Smith would rather be playing there as a right back, but he'll, I should think, be more than capable of coping as a left fallback today. A slight adjustment there from their point of view. Here's Josh King. And here is now Simon Francis. The game being played in glorious but wintry weather. Very much a chill in the South Coast air. And the Sun also a problem as we saw there for Sadio Mane. He's fairly low in the sky and shining right into some of the players' eyes. Lucas, who is having to fill in at centre-back because Joel Matip held a late fitness test. Firmino. And now Emery Chan. Re-kick Liverpool, given by the match referee Bobby Matley. One of the interesting parts today is how Bournemouth play. Can they play through? Can they play round that Liverpool press? Another crop seems out of possession. After the ball, high up the field and really threatening pressure teams in possession. Well, Bournemouth love that. They want to have the ball. They like to play. I think how effective Bournemouth are today will be very much based on how well and how quick and sharp they can play through that Liverpool press and start really getting at that back four. Which, as you've mentioned, John, has had changes. Lucas has vastly experienced as he is. Won't anybody want someone like Callum Wilson running at him? Bournemouth have never beaten Liverpool. This will be their tenth attempt. Wilshire. James Milner. Firmino. Stanislaus back to the returning Arta Borrex. Francis. Callum Wilson. And then Divock Oregi turning into Nathan Arkay. The former Tottenham player. Oregi. That's the difference for Adam Smith today. Just running inside on his right foot. Particularly for him with the sun right in his face. Easy. Just make the right pass selection, or indeed take the right option. Milner. Firmino. Liverpool's squad slightly stretched by the absence of Sturridge, the absence of Coutinho. Milner only fit for the bench today. Nice and composed in possession. Inviting that Bournemouth press. Managing to play their way through it. Good play there. Firmino. The reliable Milner. Lucas. It's the fifth time he started at centre-back this season. First time alongside Dejan Lovren. Yeah, seen him a couple of times. In the left side, the central defence, because he made that mistake in the game at home against Leicester. Sloppy one. All the time he's got plenty of pace and legs around him, he's fine. Firmino. Chan down by Cook, away by Francis. And Wilshire for a moment getting the better of Henderson, but not winning the battle. So it's Lucas to play it forward. Firmino. Liverpool come here unbeaten in 15 games across all competitions. One aberration this season came at Burnley in the second match. The last two-nil. Manet. And now by Naldum. And Milner. Liverpool dominating the possession. Smith away. Lucas. Origi. Manet. Testing it with Wilshire. Firmino got a foot to it. Well played, there's no foul. And Josh King for Bournemouth. Just trying to draw breath at the moment. Bournemouth sitting around after the Liverpool shirts, trying to pinch the ball when they do. Looking it forward, but invariably it's straight to a Liverpool shirt, it's coming straight back. Going to go long when you're clearing it. Go long, go right in behind Liverpool and give yourself a chance to get up the field. Wilshire. Gosling to Arta. News of Andrew Sermon, another cog in the regular Bournemouth midfield. He's got a hamstring problem and is out for a number of weeks. Stannis Lass. That's how to beat the press, brilliant. Milner stood firm. And rattles Harry Arta and gives away a free kick. Showing that, Josh King just over, running that, running in trouble. Four or five good passes. Stannis to Liverpool. They've made that threat from Liverpool and they've pitched the ball high up their own field. Then they've got to make it tell. He's got to take a little bit more care with that, Josh King. Henderson. Kline was on his way early and is well-found. And in for a Rigi. What a score. He should have scored. What a ball that is here. He just doesn't get his feet sorted out. Stumbles and hits the floor.  You've got the Rigi there nose. But that is as good a chance as he's going to get all afternoon. That should be the visitors in front. What a brilliant, brilliant play. A great ball from Nathaniel Kline. Junius Stannislas. For the cherries of Bournemouth. This is Harry Arter. Bournemouth have only won one of their last five in the Premier League. Francis Willscher. And to Bournemouth Rowe. Adam Smith by now them. Beans from different sides of the financial tracks. Bournemouth's major purchases in the summer were two Liverpool reserves effectively in Jordan Ive and Brad Smith. And they paid a total of 21 million pounds. Neither of them making the starting 11. That's poor. And it's rescued by Ake. Henderson. Kline. Nathaniel Kline. And up and away off Smith for a quarter. Yeah, sloppy one from Harry Arter. This time in possession. It's a square ball, plays it a little bit blind. Not quite sure where it's going in the end. That's the ball moments earlier. Nathaniel Kline. What a fantastic delivery that is. He just doesn't get his feet sorted out. Divock Origi there. He knows it. Don't need telling him. Should be planted firmly in the back of the net. Liverpool's captain with the corner. Met by Lucas. His last Premier League goal came in 2009. Practice makes perfect. This should be better. Henderson. Interesting actually watching the way Bournemouth defend. So many teams different ways of setting up. We've seen so many goals going in from set plays from corners every weekend. The Vikings poor. Pretty much Bournemouth going man for man. In and around the penalty spot. Just a couple of players zoning across the six yard box. Bobby Madley. Heals the need to intervene. Jocelyn. Fourth corner in a row. Henderson. The keeper started to come. Good work by Chan. Here's Lovren. Good skill again for Minho. He's got the picture as many people running in and around him. In behind him. He knows exactly what's going on. Just a run from Van Eldom.  I'm not sure you're going to get there first. Down your feet. Welsh King just dives in a little bit rash. I think James Milner's going to hit the floor. Again a chance now to be a little bit more accurate. The Sun is certainly an issue here. Bournemouth players lined up in defensive formation. It's Milner. Francis. Vinaldo. Chan. And it was for Minho with the effort on goal. James. Hits it well enough for Berta for Minho. But Bournemouth's shirt just blocks it. But they're back to the wall at the moment. Some ominous signs for Bournemouth. Promising ones for Liverpool. Vinaldo. Pick casual. He's got to do a little bit more, Karen Walsson. He's got to try and get his body in between. Lovren on the ball and just buys team a little bit of time at the moment when they clear it. They can't get any respite Bournemouth. It's just coming straight back. Walsson is up there on his own. Just looking at Jack Wilshire. He's actually certainly his team mates right now. Come on. We're going to play. We need to play away at a trouble a little bit better than we are at the moment. They're patronising to the home club. The remains an air of wonder and great excitement about the big Premier League visitors coming to Bournemouth to play. That's the club that has only spent seven seasons in the top half of the league structure. And then the Premier League. This is their second campaign. The club that bumped along the bottom of league life for so long in front of crowds of a couple of thousand now selling out every week and playing against some of the biggest names in the world game. Taken quickly by Wilshire. We'll watch that. Lovren, good ball there. Supported by Jack Wilshire putting that one down, looking to find Karen Walsson. He was on his way. He's good defended. It isn't easy. It's difficult, John, when you're pressed and you're under pressure, you just need to make a couple of sharper passes with Gosling, with Wilshire, Harry Arter. Two or three passes in there and they'll get out. They'll find a way to maybe hit Stanislas or Josh King. Vijnaldum, all played. Mane, Simon Francis. Mane, clever. Decisive. Sadio Mane, pilfer to goal for Liverpool who've dominated the opening 20 minutes. Great goal from this perspective. Brilliant. Never gave it up. It was too quick for Nathan Ake, but I'm just looking at Arter Borax and thinking, usually in this sort of situation, when a goalkeeper commits, he comes flying out, but he came and stopped. Came and just hesitated. He may feel because of Mane's plays, he's never getting there. But Nathan Ake's not strong enough and Borax doesn't really know whether to keep coming, flying out. In the end, he just stands his ground. And that is just the opportunity that Sadio Mane needed. Once he sees Borax standing, he knows he can go for it. He knows he can get there. And he just toe-ins it past the goalkeeper. I think if Borax keeps coming there, I think he ends up getting that. Certainly gets a block on it. The worry for the goalkeeper is he can concede a penalty. Red card, you name it. In a situation like that, I understand. But it just came so far, stood still. That was all the invitation that Sadio Mane needed to put his team in front. Another parochial nature of football supporters is such that there is additional pain in that the goal has been scored by a former Southampton player. Local rivals along the coast. We've also seen John there. Nathan Ake has a centre half. He's a lovely footballer. Very talented young man. Not the biggest, not the strongest guy. Mane was just too quick for him initially but had a little bit too much body strength as well. Francis. Here by Lovren. Harry Arter. Adam Smith. Here's Henderson. Now it's Divock Origi and Borrech has come again. He's misjudged that too. That is a great finish. Almost defied the laws of geometry to score from that angle. But what has Arter Borrech done two kilometres moments in as many minutes? Back to me, he tells me that he knew he should have come for the first one. So he decides to keep going for the second one.  Now that's the one where the goalkeeper doesn't need to come flying out. But you know what, he's got so much to do once he goes past the goalkeeper from there. He knows he's got to hit it hard because of the defenders getting back on the line. He's really got to go for it. And he does that beautifully, Divock Origi. That is a wonderful finish. That really is. Two minutes and four seconds between the blunders. Or should that be the goals? Great goals from a Liverpool point of view. Decisions. Decision making for goalkeepers is everything. The first one again, as I said. I think he just got caught in between. He made Mane favourite. That one there, he's made his mind up early that he's going to go and try and get it or at least boost Origi wide, whatever. Bad decision. Bournemouth were first promoted at the start of last season. Borrech's had a couple of shocking appearances and was taken out of the firing line for a while. But he recovered well. He's 36 after all. He's played 60 times for Fohlen, but he's been exposed twice here. King. From this perspective, this has been turned into a handicap race. Firmino runs for Wilson. Liverpool only scored three times in the last five games put together since bagging six here against Hull. Now reestablished themselves with those two goals in rapid succession as the Premier League's leading scorers this season. Flee usurped by Arsenal after yesterday's five at West Ham. It's Origi. It's Cook. It's King. He will bring it back to the earlier foul. Francis. Wilson. Was declared by Lucas. Calum Wilson takes them second in the table. A point behind Chelsea. Cavalmer side is tied. Gosling. Really impressive start. Confident and composed with the ball early on. Very, very comfortable up to now. Two good goals from their point of view. Two outstanding goals from their point of view. Great running and purpose from Mane. Origi one was special. I'm going to see it again here. The ball up the line from Henderson is a good one. Goalkeeper. Once you start coming out beyond your 18-year box, you're in big trouble if you're not getting there. I just think Boritz has made his mind up. Fueled by the one a few moments before the first goal. Liverpool have a problem here. Just required attention for Emery Chan. Divica Origi will have enjoyed his moment. What we've seen yesterday as well, John, we saw with the Arsenal game, the stronger teams in this league. What they're able to do now, it's the intensity in their game for a sustained period. We know that Bournemouth are going to have their moments this afternoon and they'll have their time when they can perhaps get involved in the game and create chances. But in the main, the better teams are able to keep their foot to the floor for longer periods. Ben Woodburn on the left, who became Liverpool's record goal scorer on Tuesday night against Leeds in the League Cup. Trent Alexander-Arnold set up a goal for Origi in that same match. Ovea Ajaria also on the bench. Three teenagers in reserve for Liverpool today. Stanislaz can't able to continue for now for Liverpool. They've had all the best-made plans for this game. Thinking about the best way to set his team up before it's really got going. They've got a mountain to climb. Keeperu's had a lengthy but slightly checkered career. Tends to be either absolutely wonderful or absolutely blunderful. You're right, he can be exceptionally in his day off before it's he really can. There's in two minds there as to whether he would be building a back cast. Nathaniel Klein, the free-match talk was could Bournemouth exploit the fact that Liverpool have two midfielders in their back four. We've not really had any semblance of an answer to that because Liverpool not really been put under pressure. Can't find Jack Walsh here, can they? Bournemouth haven't been able to get the ball into him and he can turn and try and thread. They're clearing the ball Bournemouth. They're just knocking it a bit aimless and Liverpool picking it off and coming back at them again. Two options in and around him. Run from Nathaniel Klein, Mane to his right. Talented player and he's a very clever individual. Brings others into the game, can drift in and around, can play up with his back to goal almost as a nine.  Liverpool win today would equal their best ever 14 game start to a Premier League season. Stakes back some eight years. Chan. Francis. King. And this is Mane. Origi. Hitting casual there.  Drive at him, sprint at him. Pick Origi out with a 30 yard pin delivery. He needs it. Once they break that through the midfield line, Bournemouth and start running at the ACA and Smith. Worrying the life out of him. Gosling. Francis is looking out of Bournemouth sales such as it was by two goals in as many minutes. The moments of goalkeeping indecision. Maybe the second one was too much decision to go kick. Awesome focus that the backers will live up so far. Nothing sloppy from those defensive minded players. Just a really thorough professional performance up to now. I think already Eddie Howell be thinking about how can I change this? How can I add something to what's going on out there? Pose a problem or two for Liverpool because at the moment they're beating his team always up physically with the ball. Without the ball they're hunting it down and getting it back quicker. Wilshire. Stanislaus. Neat. Josh King. And Paris it was a nervy moment as he ricocheted off one of his own men. Good football. Well played Jack Wilshire. Was this did he Fed? Stanislaus. Great ball to Josh King. Fires it across the 6-yard bottom for a moment from Aaron. We looked at that, squeezed into the goal at the near post from Karius, but he did enough. Wilson. Ake. Was he tripped? No, says Bobby Madley. And Liverpool can break here. It's a Reagey. Manet is in the middle. And Harry Arte gets a foot to it and Bournemouth a furious. It's a big call for Bobby Madley that is. Certainly Nathan Ackie stepped on to his left foot. Much contact there was I'm sure we'll see him a replay. The referee wasn't convinced, if you're not sure, don't give it. Bobby Madley had an unobstructed view and was not distant from the incident. Huge appeal from all the Bournemouth players. Why wouldn't they, of course. It's a real way back into the game if they can get the decision like that and see it now. Here we go, steps it back. I think there's a penalty. I think Firmino dangles the leg and he catches him across the knee. Another look at that in a moment. The next breaking play. Certainly had genuine claims for one, that's for sure. Of course players get frustrated. We see yesterday what happened at Spurs and the Delhi Alley one. Pretty genuine shout and claims like that one there. Nothing given. Cuck came flying in, actually apologised for the tackle made the referee's job straight forward. Built by the Bournemouth centre-back. I think he's probably apologised. He doesn't want the card. The bigger issue in the context of the game is that lingering penalty claim. Here it is again. Catches him on the knee, doesn't it? It's whether or not you feel. Didaki instigate the contact. Watch again here. Firmino's leg is dangled out. I don't think he does. There's definitely contact there and he's entitled to go down there.  Just trying to get it in. He's left foot and maybe have a shot. Milner. Chan. And out by Cuck. Only as far as Henderson. Oregi. Lucas. Miss Q by Gosling, puts Bournemouth on the back foot. Wilshire. Archer again. Lucas halting that Bournemouth charge and Firmino finding Chan. Oregi who scored for the third game in a row. Oregi who scored for the third game in a row. Fine again. Mane. Simon Francis. Junior Stanisthas. Josh King. Francis, the block by Milner, but back to Francis. Karius will gather. Just trying to stand it out there. Simon Francis, but just a little bit too big. Just a little bit too big. Just some passages of possession for Eddie Howe. Just in the flash, the game. Just drifted out of their hands almost. Just drifted out of their hands almost. So interesting that penalty call. So interesting that penalty call. It's a big moment there because as dominant as Liverpool have been. Back in again if you can hit one of those. Simon that Liverpool surrendered a two-goal lead by the way and the Premier League was down the coast at Southampton last season when Sadio Mane scored twice for the Saints. Sadio Mane scored twice for the Saints. Liverpool colours. Smith times his intervention well. Good challenge, better that. Nice dummy initially from Mane. Looking his head up, looking to see who's in the box and just gives Smith a chance to recover. Henderson. To Mane. A couple of extra minutes to play. Good start from Klopp and his players. Got the goals, got in front. A little bit more conservative since the second goal. Playing within themselves now. Born with a trying to press and trying to push, but just can't seem to find a genuine spell in the game. We're on the front foot. By Naldum. Henderson. Milner. Firmino. Arta with time to assess. Not plentiful. Wilshire. Taken down late. Born with free kick. The time this has been taken there won't be a great deal more in the first half. Stanislaus. Wilson denied. There's the whistle. Liverpool lead by 2-0. And Bournemouth's goalkeeper Arta Borrex has contributed to the cherry's problems on home soil. Two misjudgments. Punished first by Mane, then by Oregi. Halftime in the sunshine at the Vitality Stadium. Bournemouth-Nil, Liverpool 2. Welcome back to the Vitality Stadium. Both sides have returned to the pitch and there is a change to report. By Bournemouth, Josh King has been replaced by the former Liverpool winger Jordan Ibe. Ibe who moved for 15 million pounds in the summer. Having had a limited number of chances at Anfield. It was expected he would be a main man at Bournemouth, but he started the season in the team and is now on the periphery of it. Bobby Madley, the match referee, looks at both wrists, both watches and puts his hands on his hips. Jordan Ibe is being introduced by Bournemouth as a halftime substitute, but he's rather bolted the gates by jogging on, taking up his position on the right wing without actually getting the say. So for many of the officials, he's replacing Josh King and now he is formally introduced. And that slightly delays Kinkoff to this second half. At last the whistle, Bournemouth with, in the mountain, then a sizable hillock to climb. Problems partially self-inflicted by a rather eccentric goalkeeping display by Arthur Borrex in the first half. He wasn't the only one, but these were the most noticeable mistakes. The other thing we should perhaps point out is that in the multi-million pound, sometimes billion pound world of the Premier League, the starting lineup for Bournemouth today is less than four million pounds combined. That differential has been rather smashed by the introduction of a 15 million pound substitute. But even so, for the entire cost of the Bournemouth team, you can have nine, or nine Bournemouth teams for one Sadio Manet. And you can make of these figures, I know what you will, but it does emphasise the gap. Callum Wilson, Adam Smith is up in support. Here's Arthur lending himself. Obviously Eddie Howes made the change, John, at half-time, bringing Jordan Nive on. For light change, I personally felt that might have needed something slightly different than that. Maybe even a phobie up there alongside Callum Wilson, give him a little bit more support, get it up to them a little bit quicker a bit earlier. Just bypass Liverpool's pressing game a little bit, and their ability to smother all of Bournemouth's attacks. Just going behind Lucas a little bit more. I think you're also quite sceptical about Eddie Howes' decision to line up defensively the way that he has and not use Ake as a left-back. Yeah, again, that's something that, unfortunately, hindsight's a beautiful thing, and we're able to do that. He set up his initial way, but I'm not sure that Adam Smith's particularly come towards a left-back. I think Francis and Cook might have been better off as the central defenders. Ake go left-back and try and deal with the pace and the threat of Marnay. And Lee Smith in his accustomed right-back role. Here's Wilshaw, and has gone and seek to get on with it. He's in the mood to retain it. But for how long? Well, there is that side, which can be a bit chippy and a bit lippy, and it's her to the yellow card. He's calling the skipper over here, as he did lose his head there a little bit. Jack Wilshaw got caught on the ball, didn't like it, and referee pulled him up, and I think Bobby Madd is just saying, you go and have a word with your player and keep him in check. There's any more of that, and he's going to be getting another yellow. Again, if he'd have made the change with maybe a foe bit, I might have just dropped Jack Wilshaw back a little bit and let him come onto things, let him see things in front of him, drive into space a little bit more. Sometimes as a number 10, he gets hit a lot, and he doesn't always evade and avoid that sort of contact and onto things, and seeing a bigger picture in front of him, better at that than playing with his back to goal and receiving the ball as a sort of standard number 10. I can't quite see him there for me. Last time he was the victim of the foul. If Bournemouth could get up ahead of Steam, they're capable of it, particularly on home territory, then this could yet be an interesting second half. One, and they're back in it, John. Back in the game, no question.  Francis Gosling, the former Everton player, Firmino Milner. That was ill-timed by Francis, and he'll be booked for that. Good play, James Milner. He's given him a lot of credit. He's gone into a left-back role for Liverpool, and he's played so well there. He knows that role, he knows what it's all about, taking ballbacks on and driving to a byline. That's not a problem for him. Interesting angle for Milner to try to exploit. Like the teasing ball in, wasn't it? I'm talking about a clip there, I think, from Steve Cut. It's making sure he gets something on it. Henderson has gone across. He's taken all the right-wing corners so far. That's Milner. Henderson, Firmino. You just mentioned James Milner a couple of times in an attacking sense. Obviously joined the free kick for the foul, but what's your view on him at left-back? Clearly he's done a very good job filling in, but can Liverpool go the distance with him playing at left-back? I think they can, actually. I wouldn't normally say that about a wide player that you're playing in a full-back position, but I just think he's the sort of diligent type that will get on with it. He's very reliable in everything that he does. He's always been criticised over the years, but not perhaps being skillful enough, but it's a full-back job, very good. Yellow card there for Jordan Henderson for the ankle tap on Stanislaus. No players in today's games on the disciplinary precipice of four yellow cards. That remains in place until the 31st of December. Anyone accumulating five gets a one-game ban, having repairs for Junior Stanislaus having been caught. Well, seats are not plentiful in the stadium. Sometimes advertising hoardings have to do, but he's not your conventional manager anyway. I do like him, though. I like the way he works, and I love the passion he's got for it. He'll be pleased. Kenny Dalglish, of course. I'm sure he's enjoyed as well, Kenny, watching the Klopp team and the emergence of this Liverpool team. There's some good players there, we know. They've played very well. Let's hope this isn't as serious as maybe it looks. A tremendous amount of contact, whether or not Junior Stanislaus has rolled his anchor. Clearly a change is going to be necessary. Eddie Howe is going to call upon Scottish winger Ryan Fraser. This is a particular issue for Bournemouth, unlike many other Premier League clubs. They don't have huge depth to their squad. Each injury absences grievously felt, and that's a nice touch from Liverpool's manager. Ryan Fraser bought from Aberdeen for £400,000. Here's the man to come on. Then Fraser. Ake. Wilson. Fraser goes over. This time it's a penalty. Ryan Fraser's only been on the pitch for one minute, and he's won a spot kick and possibly a lifeline for Bournemouth. Wow. He's talking about James Moore as a fullback. He's dived in there. It's just called Ryan Fraser. I think after the first one in the first half, anybody going down in a situation like that, you're always going to get it. No surprises that Bobby Madley eventually points to the spot, but big moment in this game. Huge moment for Bournemouth. So there is potentially a way back for the home side, but it rests on this. Kellan Wilson back in business. Good pen. Kept his head nice and cool. Lovely when you see the goalkeeper going in the other direction. Now we've got a game, John. Well, they've finally got a penalty. They will argue they should have had two in the game. But having gone two down in two mad first half minutes, they are now in their pitching again. You know, actually, for the ball through for the goal, it was a better ball down the line. It was one that Kellan Wilson was closer to Lovren. The header from him put the Liverpool team in a bit of trouble. Jürgen Klopp has just talked his way into some. Stuart Atwell is the fourth official on the right there. Jürgen Klopp's mood has changed from one of fury to one of apparent benevolence, but... I think he's probably saying to himself, you stay in your technical area, if you're going to wander outside of that, you can don't have a sit in the stand. He's offering his hand to Jason Tindall, the assistant manager of Bournemouth. He's not shy either. It's Manet. And Oregi couldn't quite gather it in. Expression continues with the fourth official. Stuart Atwell just explaining that those white lines by his feet, that's the technical area. What else is there to say? A couple of clean sheets in their last two in the Premier League, but they don't keep that many. Of course, wonderfully exciting to watch. The odd crack does appear. Sadio Manet. Here's Clyde. Locked by Ake. That Bournemouth back four. You can see Cook and Francis now playing as a pair. Adam Smith, the right side. Nathan Ake is now in that left-back position. Since Fraser's come on, he's over on the right side. Jürgen and I are over on the left, but I do think the back four has a better look about it like that. All three efforts on target in this game have gone in. Manet and Oregi in the first half for Liverpool and Helen Wilson's penalty in the second for Bournemouth. It's handballed by Adam Smith. James Milner. Ryan Fraser is a busy player. An occasion between Wilson and Wilsham. He's done that and Fraser posited. Wilson should have done better. It's going to be a little bit more selfish there. Gather that and find half the odd and get shot away. Milner. Chan. Vivalous help to lift the crowd. Never mind winning the penalty. It's Firmino. Clyde. I'll waste that. Your decision, that one for me and the one you're playing there. Good play for Mino. He needs more out of his players. Liverpool have just been coasting for a little bit too long. It happens. You get to and up in a game and you feel that... You don't need to go crazy. You need to just be a little bit more conservative. Protect what you've got. Just drop off the intensity, the pace goes out of your game. The position you've got to get back in it. Emre Chan. That's a good response. Chris clean. Perfectly steered. What a strike that is. Beautifully hit. Good run again from Sadio Mane. Does well. Chopping back and rolls it to Emre Chan. Look what a hit. Blaming Boruch maybe for the first couple. He can't get near that. That's hit so well. Starts it outside of the post and then he's hit with such accuracy and such pace. Not a Boruch, no chance at all with that. He did that. Because Bournemouth have just got under their skin a little bit over the last 10 minutes. That maybe just calms things down once more. We've got to stop to the Bournemouth revival movement. Chan's name being sung by the Liverpool supporters. They're even being cursed inside the head of Eddie Howe. You'd be delighted with their goals. John Jurgenclaw, great goals from a Liverpool point of view. He mentioned the sheer persistence of Sadio Mane. Great effort from Eurydia and that one from Emre Chan, which will do his confidence the world a good. Firmino. Gratis. Now it's Chan. He's got an injury problem. He just pulled up a little bit there, didn't he? Yeah, he did. Liverpool are without Coutinho already. He's OK, I think. Just might have felt something in his ankle. Jurgenclaw is off the bench showing concern and Mane has now sat down. Sadio. He picked himself up again. Because he was ignored. Poor love. Adam Smith again. Pushed over by Henderson, who's on a yellow card. Unfortunately for Bournemouth, the referee wasn't ready. Can you see them take that free kick? It looked like they weren't either. It's Wilshire. Arta. This is the Emre Chan goal. Beautifully controlled, struck powerfully with the instep. So accurately as well. Great hit. Sadio Mane is being withdrawn. Limping slightly as he goes off. And he's been replaced by Adam Lalana, whose last visit to the town of Bournemouth hit the headlines for the wrong reasons. So you don't need to expand on that. But he paid a visit during England's duty to an establishment that seems to delight in nocturnal entertainment. And it was all over the papers the next day. No suggestion of wrongdoing on his part. But it was at the height of the Rooney Ferrari. I think he's made the news. Lovely player to watch Lalana. His games improved dramatically in the last 12 months in the Liverpool shirt. Physically stronger. Certainly more decisive. In around the last third, adding a few more goals to his game as well. Big prayer for Liverpool, he is. It's Wilson. Fraser! Good hit, goalkeeper just about got the job done. Nothing convincing about what Loris Cariusz does there. I think he tries to catch that. He ends up slipping through his fingers and thankfully for him going over the bar. But a good strike from Fraser. Fraser takes the corner too. Stooping Vine Alden. The thing that's not generally known about Adam Lalana is that when he was making his way as a young player with Southampton, he had a loan spell here. Nine years ago now, Bobby Madley didn't see it that way. To Henderson. 20 minutes or so remaining. Liverpool on route to second place in the Premier League tonight. If they can see this through comfortably. Lucas. Vine Alden. Lalana. Lovely flick for Klein. Milner, working like a dervish to keep that in. That's what you get from James Milner. Let's get that 100% by Lutow commitment. Lots of players wouldn't even bother chasing that. The second favourite, he keeps it in and he wins his team a corner. They're appealing that Boritz carried that over the line. Lutow an interesting replay or two. Yep. See, better here. It was clipped in. Obviously we have the goal line technology now. But that is desperately close. Just to put out. Yeah, it's OK. That really would have completed Boritz's day. Oh yeah, that would have been the full set then. Bournemouth preparing to send on Benicaphobe. Centre forward. Wives the attempt to chair him to bring him down. The referee's going to bring it back because Smith was hindered. He'd have preferred the advantage. I think you've got to let that go a little bit there. Bobby Maddy's got to just see where that develops. If he gives that to Fraser and he gets to the byline and clips a cross up, Liverpool are stretched. The fact that Emery Chan is hurt are respect. This is the Boritz one again. See the GDS there. Wow. Is that... My goodness me. That is a hair's breadth. That looks... The referee's expression is better than a hundred words. What odds he gets done for speeding on the way home? Right, here is the third and last Bournemouth change. Benicaphobe formally of Arsenal. £10 million signing from Wolverhampton Wanderers on for Dan Gosling. He's quick, he's direct. You've got to give him something to run on to. Taken by Wilshire. And it was a fober who swung on it. Smith, Ibe by Naldum shepherding it out for a goal kick. He hasn't really got his career going yet. Jordan Ibe and a Bournemouth shirt, has he? Started a few games at the start of this season, but he's found his way out of the picture on the bench and having to be a bit of an impact player like he was at the club. He left. Liverpool. Divaker Regi. Wilshire. Apobe. Fraser. Wilson on his blocks and onside. Callum Wilson back to Apobe. And Fraser! What a good goal, son. He has made a difference. You want an impact, Sarve, you're looking at one. One Fraser has been terrific since he's come on. He's just... Instinctively, whenever he's had the ball, he wants to run up. People take them on, make something happen. Regi's careless pass there. Jack Wilshire does well when he picks it up and then once they allude that tackle from Emory Chand, they're in business. It's a good run from Callum Wilson. The cutback is perfect. That's a really sharp finish that is from Ryan Fraser. Excellent stuff. First Premier League goal for Ryan Fraser. I think in this situation the ball might find themselves in now, Jordan. How long have we got? 15 minutes, probably. 15. Turn them round. Turn Liverpool round. We've got a FOB out there with just behind Callum Wilson. Everything's got to be in front of Liverpool now. It's only turned them round. They'll start a panic running back towards their own goal, pulling the likes of Lucas and Lovren out of position. In nine previous meetings, Bournemouth have only mustered five goals ever against Liverpool and never more than won in a game before today. Three-kick in range. Set this one up because you're right. The one thing they haven't done enough of for me today is to keep the Liverpool team as work, lowest career. So goalkeeper that we're still not entirely convinced of. It's a long way out. This one may be a little bit too far. Fraser. That's why we love this league. That's why we watch it. That's why everyone's come out here today just praying for this. Praying for an opportunity, a chance to get back into a game to get a point off of one of the big teams. It's Fraser again who stands a brilliant cross-up. You know what? And credit Steve Cook. centre forwards proud of that one. He pulls it out the sky and then hits it. That's a tough skill that is. Don't ask him to do it again. But I'll tell you what, he's done it when it mattered. Wow, what a moment for Bournemouth and for Eddie Howe. Lots of cheering, cherries now. And Ryan Fraser has come off the bench to set up two and score one for Bournemouth. And I suppose the other thing to say, as we see as an exasperated clock, is in the last five or six minutes, have we seen the reason why Liverpool might not go all the way in the title race? Getting the job done, getting over the line. Whoever many goals we concede will score more. It's great, wonderful for us neutrals to watch, but occasionally it will go wrong. Liverpool have to do it again. Firmino by the Brazilian. Interested now the Bournemouth mindset. They've been chasing a game for so long. But you know what? Now they're back in it. Will they continue to put their foot to the floor? Will they continue to hassle and worry? It's Liverpool team for the rest of the game. What a chance. Hey, you mentioned the goalkeeper might have to make a save or two to see what he's made of. That's a brilliant save. That is from Karius. Comes flying out there, narrows the angle down. A bogey should score. He really should, but ought to give the goalkeeper four marks. Final of... Wilshire. You'd be frustrated with that one, but wow. What a moment that was. I've seen some crazy games recently. There were tonnes of goals yesterday. The 5-4 last week between Swansea and Palace. 3-1, I never saw this one getting away from Liverpool. Not at all. It could be behind. 33 goals in eight games in the Premier League so far this weekend. And this could, as Geoff Mostyn, the Bournemouth chairman, watches on. Could be the first draw. Who'd bet on that? He's young, lucky there, Callum, if he keep going. He's got the burto for Mino alongside him. Just keep running into that box. A minute to go. Liverpool led 3-1. Cuny, Vijnaldum. Henderson, Milner, who came in. Fraser, who mocks up. The chasing. And the hoping. Legend to sound like a multiple of that number. Vijnaldum. Lallana, full square. Liverpool will remain third. Bournemouth will stay 12. And a legacy of a richly entertaining game. Particularly in the second half. Split second. Yes, Henry Chan did grab, in the after, but Adam Smith's got the ball at his feet. The wind to run into. So seeing as neither of us would have got remotely close to predicting the narrative that you see. Now, what is going to happen next? I'd like to say genuinely. They didn't put it past Bournemouth, finding another one. They put it in that box. Liverpool central pairing out of Lovren and Lucas. So we'll be panicking every time it's delivered. You don't need to lose it.  Adam Smith just did there. Question that lingers in my mind. Will I spend four and a half million pounds on a very experienced reserve centre-back, Ragnar Klavan. And then not playing. He played a few times at the start. He played in that defeat at Burnley, I think. Henry Chan high. And a player who's not very tall. But it's yellow for the German. But it's been everything you could ask for with substitute. There are some substitutes that when they get on the field they mope about a bit because they're not happy at not starting or unhappy at not playing enough.  Bright-eyed, pushy, tall and just wants to get the ball at his feet and make something happen. He's been great. Jack Wilshire. Not the best. Adam Smith. Ibe. Ake. Simon Francis. What are you thinking now when you're taking this corner, John? Give them a chance.  Give people a chance. Well, it's super sub. Ryan Fraser to Harry Arter. To Benny Gavobe. And then Cook. But the flag was up for offside. Did well there, Loris Carrius. And flying out there to make sure he got something on that. And he did. The flag went up for offside as well. Yep, it's a good call. News that former supporters May Relish and Liverpool fans May Winsat is that we're heading for five extra minutes. That's enough time to create one last opportunity. Well, Jürgen Klopp is pacing the technical area. He will be because he'll wonder where it's got away from him. Why? Momentary lapses in concentration for the very reasons that they got 2-0 up. For the very reasons that it's now all square. Just take your half a game in this lead for a split second and you can get away from it. Camino. This time the referee does play advantage. For Milner. Milner's cross. Origi for the Lana. Keheim by Nathan Ake. And the fourth official is now appearing and it will be five minutes signaled by Stuart Atwell. It's great skill, you know. From Lovren. He's got his back to goal, Origi. So he's got to come up with something special and he very nearly did. Lovely first touch and he's fallen away from it. He just doesn't quite flush it, doesn't quite catch the volley. As sweet as he'd like, just off the top of his boot. He knows it. Thought about it, now he does it. He's a run there, Adam Lelana. Either it's off his left side or his right. Pretty adept at both and hits it well enough but just not on target. Liverpool control most of the first half. If it ends all square, is that going to be round about fair? They're going to have to take it, John. They're going to have to live with it. They'll be furious, they'll be so disappointed that they've not been able to see it through because they'll know that question, that nagging question everyone's got about Liverpool when it comes to it. Can they get over the line? We know when they're playing well. They can just literally pull teams to pieces. It's this sort of match, this sort of game in this sort of environment. Steve Cook off his long run. Wilshire and Lukas stretching. Book asking the crowd for one last bit of vocal support. The end of a turbulent day. Lukas, this is George Knight. Space for Cook. It's coming into range, Steve Cook. Oh, and it's again! Oh, my goodness. The cake. There is the cherry on the top. Absolutely incredible, you know. Give Steve Cook so much credit here because most players here, John, one touch, put it in the box. Actually, see Space, he thinks I'm going to drive at it, have the shot myself. You know, and I've been asking questions all afternoon. I'm on the way down here today, thinking about this goalkeeper. You know what, this is a tough league if it's not quite happening for you. And today, we've seen a few blouties amongst Loris Carras there. For Eddie Howe and his staff at Bournemouth, they're in dreamland, they can't believe it. What a comeback, what a response. And what a lucky goalkeeper. Yeah. Having given away two goals in the first half, Arta Borrets looks likely to end up on the winning side. Nathan Ake has scored. What may well prove to be the odd goal in seven. Just amazing. Again, not enough Liverpool shirts following in on the shot there from Steve Cook around the goalkeeper, trying to protect him, trying to help him, anticipating that he might spill it. Wasn't an easy one to deal with, but it's one you'd expect a top-class goalie to get and to hang on to. A foe bait. Liverpool free kick. With 30 seconds remaining, Bournemouth on the brink of beating a team in the top four of the Premier League for the first time ever. Cook with a towering header. Wilshire, Firmino. Referee looking at his watch. Wasted high by Lovren. And Borrets makes the catch. And that may well be enough for Bournemouth. Anyhow, the architect says to Borrets, kick this as far as you humanly can. Find the cherries. It's a night for Caviar and Champagne in Bournemouth. They have downed Liverpool, coming from free one behind to win it in the 93rd minute with a goal from Nathan Ake. Ryan Fraser, an inspirational super sub. In microcosm, we've seen why there are doubts over Liverpool's challenge. We've also seen what's so very special about Bournemouth, who've risen from the lower divisions to trade blows with the very best. Scenes of great joy here after a Jurassic classic, which ends Bournemouth four, Liverpool three.


Hi everyone, my name is Vessa Bolesky, I'm the director of admissions and recruiting here at the Ford School. Thank you so much for taking time to come and meet with us today and to hear from our graduate career services team. They do a tremendous job for our students so I'm really excited that they get a chance to talk with you about their work and and the support that they provide for our students in our master's programs. So I want to introduce Jennifer Niggemeyer who's our director of graduate career services and alumni relations, as well as Peter Vasher who's our associate director of graduate career services they're going to chat up for a little bit and then there will be time at the end to have questions so feel free to, as you think of them drop those in the chat or we'll have time at the end as well so we'll turn it over to Jennifer and Peter thank you very much. So welcome everyone, we're actually going to do this as an interview, Peter and I are going to interview each other about our services, and hopefully that will set the stage for you to ask some questions as well as we get toward the midway point. So, as Beth mentioned I'm Jennifer Niggemeyer, the director of graduate career services and alumni relations, and I'm going to pass it to my colleague, Peter, who's going to start off the interview today. We're really excited everyone's joined us. So I'm Peter Vasher I'm the associate director of graduate career services here at the Ford School of Public Policy coming at you live from 735 South State Street, right here at the corner of State Street and Hill. So to kick things off, Jennifer, I hear the Ford School has intentionally invested in a robust career services and alumni relations team, specifically for graduate students. So can you tell us a little bit more about the team and kind of give an overview. Absolutely. So, Ford School does take its commitment to graduate career services really seriously both for the MPAs and MPPs and for PhD students. And we have a team that includes a staff that work on employer relations side of things establishing recruiting contacts and connections. We have a staff that work on the counseling side, providing one on one and group support. And, and then we also have an integrated approach where our leadership initiative is integrated into some of into our office with some shared responsibilities across staff, and as well as alumni relations being integrated into our office. So just a little bit about that, moving forward, but we talk about our service delivery in general as providing you with information connections, strategy and support. So that information about the world of work what can you do with a policy degree we know sometimes students come to the program and their career pivoting. They don't necessarily know range of options that want to do with a policy degree. And so we definitely have programs and services that focus on connection or on on that information. But once folks do have a sense of what they want to do, connecting with those that do that work is really important. And so that's where the connections aspect of our office really comes into play. So I think I will stop there and ask Peter maybe to unpack that a little bit, particularly about what's maybe unique about the Ford school in the ways in which we get to know our students in our, in our service delivery approaches. Absolutely. So I know you can kind of see the other teammates and colleagues on the screen right now so we are I think one thing that's very important the Ford school is community and that starts with getting to know one another. We are self contained to one building on the Ann Arbor campus so we're one of these small schools on the Ann Arbor campus so I think a really nice benefit of the Ford school too is you're a part of the larger you have on community. But you really have the individual focus of community here at the Ford school in Wild Hall, kind of overall and the ways that we get to know our students so we get will be reached out to you if you decide to come to the Ford school. And the summer of 22 so before you even come to campus, we get to know you. So we start with programming over the summer before you come. So we do a little bit of strength work in the summer to kind of help inform and your own values in your own strengths that you're bringing with you to the community we know that people are coming back, potentially to school after a number of years of work experience. So we just want to kind of help with that reflection piece as you're starting on a master's or PhD program here at the Ford school. And then we get to know you individually so we meet with every single students that comes through the Ford school, one on one to get to know your interests, where you want to go, are you making a career pivot, are you looking to move to California or are you looking to move to India. What is it that what is your why, and that's something we work individually with you on, and we're accessible site and we have 230 master students at the Ford school, you can see our team that we have available. We're here reaching out to you. So really get to know those interests and one thing we do is we meet with every student in August or September. And that goes in October, depending on midterms, anything that the students may have, or really to kind of get to know those interests that you're bringing what's your background what are you hoping to accomplish here at the Ford school. And then it's really that full life cycle journey if you're getting the MPP we work with you on your internship search. You're the MPA, and we'll work with you a little bit on the capstone to, but what are you doing here in your year or your two years to kind of set up that internship and then set up what comes beyond. And then everything that goes into that full life cycle of the career search will work with you on. We know that many of your bringing robust experiences with you and bringing a lot of expertise with you to the Ford school and we tap into that in the community to. We have a number of different workshops will work individually. We have one of our programs that maybe I'll let Jennifer talk a little bit about that we really enjoy is internship and job search groups so where we leverage the community and the expertise that you're bringing to my family talk a little bit about that Jennifer is one of our options. So we do lots of individual one on one but we also think it's really important and we know students have found lots of value in this to have accountability with each other. And so we organize internships groups in the fall for students that want to get a head start. And these are like between eight and 10 students that commit to four or five weeks of one hour a week getting together to focus on aspects of your internship search. And often students decide they want to continue on with their accountability and they self organize and keep meeting after the formal structure the program's over. We'll do those in the winter semester as well we also will do job search groups for those that are second years and PAs that want that type of small group accountability and and focus, and there really been a strength of the office. Lots of schools on on on Michigan's campus have replicated what we've been doing with these and many of our peer policy schools as well, because we have we found them to be really successful and really hard of building that sense of cohort and community for the school. In addition to search groups to we do, you know, we'll work one on one with students on, you know, interview prep, interview practice, we'll have different workshops. There's, you know, Casey solans our employer relations manager, we have a number of different employers that are coming virtually or to campus when public health guidance allows to connect with you. So there are a number of different opportunities for connection that build upon that individual and group support that you're going to get as a part of the community. Another really nice benefit to have kind of the gcs our team is the opportunity for every single student to get individual leadership coaching at the Ford School. If generally you want to share a little bit more about the leadership initiative to. Yes, so I work very closely with morella Hernandez as a faculty member, new to the Ford School, who is the director of the leadership initiative. And part of the piece that I'm responsible for is for students that are on internship. We, through the wonderful contributions of donors, we are able to provide each every master student with a leadership coach that is paired with you during the time of your internship. And so it's an opportunity to really lean into. How are you showing up at work. So not so much like it's not the career counseling, it's about how am I growing as a leader, how am I showing up what's my leadership presence how am I modeling the way, what am I seeing about good leadership in the workplace. And students found that really valuable. Last year was the first year we opened it up to all of the MPPs on internship. And this semester we have just launched for the master of public administration or public affairs students where they're going to be paired with a leadership coach. Currently with the time they're taking the core leadership course that is taught by Dr. Morella Hernandez. And so we're super excited about it and the coaches absolutely love working with Ford School students they have said it's their favorite clients. And, and that the issues that students are bringing to coaching are really similar to what the CEOs that they work with bring to coaching. And so the fact that you have access to this so early on in your career, we really see it as a game changer, and how it will help you advance your growth and development and your leadership developments. So, super excited about that offering. Yeah. So, Let's see, Peter, let me ask you a question now. We have let's see we talked about strategic. We've talked about information connections and support as part of what we've offered and we talked about the programming on the individual one on one. Can you talk about what we mean by helping students strategy side of their search. So, as we said earlier definitely working with each of you individually to see what is the best choice for you. And we know, you know, the experiences that you're bringing are going to be very they're going to be different and we, like I said we leverage that. We kind of will work with you one on one to make strategic decisions as as you like we're a resource here for you, and that can at times be pursuing opportunities that might be different from past experiences so it's what is the why that you're here what is the strategic choice you're going to make with your degree. So you're here you're going to have academics that are going to be challenging you and taking up time, but what else are you going to do strategically to connect with our large alumni base that's around the US around the world. What are the opportunities that you are going to be intentional in your own strategy to kind of explore different pathways so that could be connecting with an alum to do a mock interview. It could be going to an alumni office hour. But what are the ways that you want to explore pathways or sectors, while you are here at the Ford School. And in terms of your own strategy we recognize that a number of our students might be exploring parallel pathways, and that's absolutely okay we encourage that we want you to get into your own strategies from alums from employers so you can make a strategic choice in the last couple days I've talked to students that are weighing multiple offers, and we talked through the strategy of what is the right choice for you, knowing, you know, it might not be the one that pays you the most amount of money, but what is the right fit for you in your career. I would like to have those individual one on one conversations with students and kind of build a plan of during your time here at the Ford School. What is the right choices for you to explore or to make so you can get experiences and some of that will be I come from the private sector I really would like to get a local government experience, but I also want to get exposure to the federal government. How can I do that. Okay, I'm going to work part time, either for the city of Detroit, or doing a project with, you know, faculty member with the Detroit neighborhood entrepreneurs project so I can get some exposure at the local level and then my summer internship I'm really going to focus on either being in DC or Chicago and I really want to work for the government accountability office will kind of talk through that strategy of okay how can I achieve those goals. What do I need to do during my time here to make that happen. I'd say another strategy piece is, we learn from and talk with you about your experiences, we've had students that will go off on a summer internship or get a capstone experience the mpa level like, I am thankful that I have had this experience, because it is validated that this is what I don't want to do. So I'm going to look in a different direction, and that's okay too. But that's a strategic conversation you can have with us. And it's one that we're certainly happy to have with you as you're figuring out what is it that you want to do here and what is it that you want to do next as well. And with that too I mean we definitely leverage our alum network and Jennifer I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about how alumni relations is a part of our team here in graduate career services. Yep. So, about 10 years ago we made a very deliberate choice to pull the alumni relations function which generally in most schools is connected to development. And we pulled it physically out of that space and moved it on to what we call the second floor which is where student services is career services is. And so that alumni or alumni relations person would be very much involved in the life of the school and get to know students, often alumni relations picks up after graduation. And this doesn't seem like the right model like we alumni relations is it's a continuum. And so we wanted our alumni relations folks to know our students from the get go. And that includes playing a role in connecting those of you that will be admitted into the Ford School, you will have the opportunity to be paired with an alum to ask questions, what we call our admissions ambassadors program. So, so alumni relations is very much embedded in the life of the school, both in terms of an admissions focus in terms of fundraising our alumni board is very active they, they actually raise funding for internships. We'll talk about that a little bit. And so they're involved in increasing the visibility of the Ford School whether they're they're connecting us to potential speakers, or they themselves are receiving awards and they're acknowledging that they're graduate of the Ford School. But part that is most salient for Peter and I is the part that alums play in the career development of students. And that is from pieces of being employers themselves right so they graduate, they go work for a Deloitte and they come back as a recruiter, or they're they're working for the US Department of Transportation, and they know that they have some presidential government fellowship openings, and they're connecting back and asking, who are your finalists in this, this program that is sort of a fast track into the federal government. And then they play a really important role in just career advising being we do office hours with alumni where you can sign up for half hour with an alum of interest to you. It's available and then in the winter semester we do mock interviews with alums to help you prep for interviews that will be that certainly will be happening as part of your internship and job search. And then we have a series of programs where we bring alums in more formally through 40 Fridays which is an informal like a coffee chat. But it's structured where we'll have two alums come in and just really field questions from students here a little bit about their story. And then sometimes comes in and just do career conversations, or career conversations that are tied with recruiting for their specific organization. So, it would be you would be hard pressed to graduate from the Ford School without having had some significant alumni interaction. And, and, and they're just like they're giving back because people gave to them when they were students and that's culture. It's built into the culture from the start. So, um, yeah, and Peter anything else we want to say about alums, I guess that about their amazing careers and where they go and the impact that they have. Yeah, we can definitely talk about that. Our alums are really making a policy impact across, you know, the many different states many different countries, and it's, they're very connected to us. Yeah, the Ford School is we talked about that community piece. You know when they're coming back to attend an athletic event or something on campus, you know, they're dropping by like Jennifer said, it's, it's a place that, you know, people want to return to and pay it forward as they can. And they're doing that and their actual policy impact is in a variety of different places. So, but before I talk a little bit about the full time I just want to mention a couple things about internships is that's a great place to make an impact to for those that are potentially earning the MPP degree. And just super quickly, we, then a number of different ways that students will get that kind of internship experience. And there are a number of different employers that will intentionally recruit at the Ford School, and we have Ford funded internship opportunities for students to so just have no in the last two summers we've been in a pandemic and we've strategically worked with our students to ensure an internship experience that's either, you know, in 2020, that was 99% virtual and 21 majority virtual. So we have roughly a quarter that didn't go on and pursue in person experiences because that's what the employer wanted. And so, and we will see what public health guidance allows for in the summer of 22, but one thing the Ford School remained kid admitted to was maintaining funding levels so that's just one thing we want to note is we did not diminish any kind of funding that we provided funding to all students that requested it. So we have different levels of funding. We have Ford funded internships that are at the 7500 already 500 level with a number of key employers, whether that is different organizations and units from around here I can share a little list that we have here. You know employer paid internships certainly as well so there's a number of different opportunities at the internship level to get kind of that experiences are building to full time as well. And so this is kind of just showing levels of funding about a third of our students are going to get employer paid internships such as government accountability office, Deloitte guide house. We have the Chicago mayor's office, any number of places, and then also we have different Ford funded internships do some recent examples of some of our internships at the MPP level that students about the opportunity to engage with. Certainly as well and this is not exhaustive. You know in any given summary of 11010 students on internship at 108 different organizations. It is vast and varied and again it gets back to that strategy piece of what do you want to do, and where do you want to go, and that that global impact, and is is real, you know the block M that I have behind me, you're going to see that when you're traveling you priority met someone who said go blue to you about five times too many but we are proud and we're proud in the Ford school of where we're going and what we're doing. We have even more employer connections, but just getting to postgrad where students geographically are going. So we kind of have a historical top six. In terms of specifics so Michigan, DC, many different places internationally California Illinois New York and then any number of different states represented across the US and then across the world to. And specifically there are a number of different places yes we're based in Ann Arbor, but we do have that reach and impact kind of across the US, and the world to. And this is the same case for internships that people are going to many different places, and many different organizations. I'm a student learner, such as myself, sometimes like maps to represent different things these are kind of by destination worldwide recently in the last five years or so, where students have ended up on the international perspective. In the US, Japan, Indonesia, South Korea and China. And then if we were to look at this domestically the last five years you can kind of see so the blue states there are top five in terms of numbers, just in terms of representation in the last couple years and again, this is a cross sector so federal local state government, foreign governments, international organizations, consulting private sector government relations and a vast vast range of different nonprofits students are making an impact in a number of different ways. Here wondering if you want to share a little bit about the bonnet fellowship and the weaker fellowship that both have applied policy impact components. So we have two of the fellowship side Jennifer just listed there so the bonnet fellowship which will have an upcoming application in March of 22 for those that are admitted to the Ford school, and that has a built in internship component to it so our bonnet fellowship is partnered with the city of Detroit mayor's office so for those students they receive tuition support and scholarship for their academic pursuits, and then they also will receive a $10,000 stipend to pursue an internship with the mayor's office in Detroit so we have three fellows each summer. And that internship component is in a policy area of interest to you so it varies in terms of what department it might be within the mayor's office in the city of Detroit but it's a great opportunity, and our fellows have gone on to continue to work in the city of the local government in other areas, or in a variety of different spaces so it's a nice network as a part of that fellowship to you will join fellows who are at NYU and UCLA, and become a part of that broader network and then you can have the opportunity to attend the the reaker fellowship is a six month long fellowship we were directly on Capitol Hill in DC, working either in a Senate office, or a member's office in the house representative, doing policy work. And so that is an opportunity that's open to students in their second year of the MPP programs after they've done some policy coursework. You apply it typically in the fall of your second year or depending on if you're a dual degree student, and then you will spend from January to early summer in DC, directly working on policy in the Senate or in the US House so we have to Yeah, supporting a member of the Michigan delegation. Yes, sorry. It's focused on that so for instance this coming January we will have two students on the hill one will be supporting the work of Senator Gary Peters, who is the chair of the Homeland Security and governmental affairs committee, and the second student will be on the house supporting the work of Dan Kildey on his work on House case of needs. So to definitely positive experiences there in both opportunities are very competitive, but nice experiences that are only open to forward school students to Yeah, so we said we take half the time and we did. And so we'd love to open it up for your questions. Peter, I mean, maybe we could take the spotlighting off so we can see everyone and feel free to raise your hand or to put your question in the chat but we would love to hear your questions. If that wasn't clear anything you want more clarity on anything we didn't cover. Don't be shy. We're here. We love questions we love talking. We love listening to. We like getting to know you and your interests. It's actually something that we will do. We know who the class is for the coming year and who is admitted and accepts at Ford. We send out a survey over the summer and we will ask you what you know at this point about your career interests, and the organizations that might be of interest to you. And that becomes a basis for our employer outreach. Yeah. All right, I see a question Casey on mute ask away. Thank you. So I actually am hoping to start the program part time as I work. I work at the U of M already as staff. And so I really the bond fellowship seems very interesting but my question would be, is that, is there a restriction on when you have to apply for that so like I wouldn't want to apply for it next year. But I would say in like two years, or I think the, it's going to take me about four years to complete the program so could I in your three or four apply for that fellowship and still get it. I don't know the answer to that. We've not had that question before, but I would say that that is maybe a question to talk with Beth about. But in general, the students that have been the bonnet fellows have been full time, often dual degrees and so there is this juggling with another program. But we have not had somebody who's been juggling with full time work. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen. Yeah. But we just haven't encountered it yet. All right, other questions. I'll just add to that that we have a number of students that will work for the city Detroit outside of the fellowship to whether that's for part time during a school year or for the summer internship component for the MPP degree as well. Yeah, other other questions. So can I can I pose a question you guys Jennifer. Yeah, please. So, you know a lot of that, you know bonnet and recur is more domestically focused but I'm wondering if you guys can talk I mean we definitely have a lot of students that are interested in international work and international opportunities. I'm just wondering and obviously it's been a little different difficult during the pandemic but just wondering if you could highlight a few sort of, you know, places that we have really great relationships with because I know we have students that go all over the world. Yeah, and actually someone just dropped that might just drop that same question right in the chat. So, um, yeah, certainly we have developed lots of opportunities abroad. And some of our employers have been challenging in terms of the, in terms of travel right so where we have worked with our employers is to still offer those positions but to do it in a way that's remote. Obviously it's not ideal it's not really what students mean when they say I want to do an international internship but it is still international policy focused in its connection to those organizations so for instance. Last two summers we've had somebody work for the international organization of migration out connected to the Costa Rica country office, but that student has been in the US, not traveled there this year that could open up and it could be possible that they're traveling so you know we've had folks at the UN High Commission for Human Rights. I just learned yesterday about an alum who took a job at UNICEF that I am already on him about what do you think about internship possibilities this summer. And, and certainly students have found positions at the World Bank.  Obviously there are lots of resources that we make available. But I find that a lot of the best internships are ones where students develop it on their own because they have a very niche interest you know I want to work on water and sanitation and I want to be in Francophone Africa. Well, chances are we're not going to have an internship that specific because it's not going to be as like it's not as widely of interest to the larger audience of students, but working with you one on one to help you develop a strategy to create that internship by reaching out to the organization is it's really super fun. And we actually have a template that has worked numerous times where students have have adapted the template emailed it to, you know, a UN office in Bangkok, Thailand and within hours got a response saying we would love to talk with you about the possibility of an internship. So, you know, you can take a path of least resistance of relying on our resources which are great right I don't want to diss them. But if there's something that you really want to do that is you'll hear me talk about that in the bullseye of your career interests, then sometimes that means you're going to, you're going to want to create it yourself to get all of the different pieces lined up as best as possible. And then another question about international students at Ford and completing internships and yes our Ford School international students complete internships domestically in the United States. They'll complete them abroad in their own country it really just depends on what their interests are. But at the internship level. There's a lot of opportunities to mean it depends on what visa you might be on. In terms of the ability to complete internship we have a number of international students that do. And that that is with nonprofits with private sector organizations. Also, you know, local state government. There are any international organizations any number of opportunities for our international students. So there are some companies that will put restrictions on there. So there are some barriers that they will not hire international students at the internship or full time level. And that is a choice that they are making that we disagree with. But it's a choice that they are making, but a number of international students are finding very exciting opportunities that align with their goals for summer internships as well. And that's going to be your federal government in general is is not going to be a path for international students but but all other sectors are. Yeah. And then certainly students have also wanted third country experiences that again a little bit lower than in recent years because of the pandemic. Yeah, so professional development funds. So this is a pool of funds that are available for students that want to develop a skill and this year we actually expanded it to a leadership competency. You can request up to $500 in support for something that isn't already available on campus, and not just a networking like because because there are plenty of networking opportunities like it needs to be something unique. I would say in general students have often used them for conferences or for workshops where there is a new skill being developed. It's been underutilized obviously because of the pandemic lots of things on zoom have not had a cost, but we have had students that have used and access those resources to just expand on what is available to you. I think a big couple of years ago a big one was case competitions that were led by other schools and students needed to travel safe to Chicago or to upstate New York and they requested support from the professional development fund and that was a great opportunity. There are experiences where it's been an interactive experience to develop some sort of policy training not offered at U of M that students have have done as well. We're presenting at some sort of conference presenting at a conference for sure. Yeah, and there are other funds at the university available for that as well. Questions. Have we answered everything.  But honestly, the more we know about you and your interests, like we will say this over and over again but it's true the more we know about you and your interests the more we can assist you. Yes, Liz go for it. Is that a hand up Liz. No, oh sorry, sorry it was my machine. I thought your hand was up but it was my cursor. Okay, so I had another thought I wanted to share the more we know about you and so let me give you an example. A student was in the office just the other day and talking about they want to do health policy and they want to be in Sacramento. And so, you know we had a good conversation I suggested a couple of organizations and alums they might want to have conversations with. And as soon as they left the office I'm not kidding you I got an email about an internship and a health policy organization in Sacramento. Right, so I just bought it right to the student I'm like oh my gosh like this is serendipitous. Maybe exactly what you're looking for. Obviously I share it with other students as well through our online system, but you know it's like knowing what you are interested in helps us help you. Any other thoughts or questions folks have. Mary. You're muted. I'm sorry I put it on myself. I appreciate all the information that you've shared. I'm wondering if students often become involved with the Michigan League for public policy, or other state priority partnership groups that kind of focus on fiscal policy. Yeah. Your answer is yes. The follow up answer is yes, and which of those do you want to get involved in. So we've had students work with MLPP through our program and practical policy engagement through like a practical learning project. Or some of those organizations through our strategic public policy consulting class, or just doing, you're not just doing but doing some sort of part time research or internship experience during the school year. So yeah so you mentioned budget and we've had, there's a lot of different budget policy opportunities for sure here at Ford, you might work closely with our close up or the Center for local state and urban policy here at the Ford School one of our research centers. I have a meeting tomorrow about a number of different Michigan state policy organizations looking to connect with our students. So, so yes, absolutely. We have a lot of alums at OMB, the Office of Management and Budget, the White House Budget Office, City of Detroit Budget Office. So, certainly, experiences on the fiscal side, you know, California Legislative Analysts Office, it's a lot of fiscal analysts work. And then on the monetary policy side, certainly connections with the Federal Reserve Board, as well as some of the regional banks. Okay, great, thank you. Yeah, lots of interesting organizations and employers. Other questions. So, we talked about, oh Casey was that a question. Okay, go for it. We can unmute you. Yep. So, I had a question about the MPA program versus the MPP program. I feel like I, maybe this is just an imposter syndrome kicking in, but I feel like even though I'm applying for the MPA program I feel like I benefit from a lot of the kind of leadership support and educational things that come with the internship associated with the MPP program. If you guys could talk about ways that MPAs just clarify that interaction. Yeah, so the MPA program is really designed for mid-career folks that have several years of work experience and is definitely a little bit more conducive to people that are staying in their jobs and wanting to do it on a slower track. The leadership coaching is very much still a part of that, the summer strengths assessment, which is part of our leadership initiative that's all open to MPAs as well. You still have access to the coaching and all the policy talks. And the capstone is not really an equivalent to an internship, but it is an applied experience where it's kind of the summation of your year in the program where you work with a client on a project. It's more of a research project that you'll identify with an organization and we encourage people to use those very strategically to position yourself for the kind of work you may want to be doing next. And so there is a lot of support. Liz Gerber right now is the faculty member who is leading out the capstone course for the MPAs and we work really closely with her. She's incorporating strengths into the capstone class. I'll be doing some career related work in the capstone class around your pitch. And we'll be doing a panel of MPAs that use the degree to reposition themselves in some different ways in their career. So we're very much invested in the leadership dimensions of that program as well. I think that where you would lose out, well, one is it's a longer program to do the MPP. And it tends to be a little bit more early in career, and you do lose out that summer internship experience. But if you're working, if you're working full time, you may not need or want that. But you know that's a question that we can bet or I can talk with you about. So on the MPA side for those of you that are thinking about that program. The way we structured it beginning this year is that I work with all the MPAs as your career coach, because it really feeds into how much I know about you helps me to best match you with the leadership coach, based on the conversations that we have and the things that you identify as where is your growing edge in your own leadership development. And it doesn't mean you can't use the services and participate in everything GCSE does absolutely can, but at least initially I want to meet with all of the MPAs. I work with MPPs as well, but that is, that's just one of the ways that we structured it this year and it seems to be working really well. I'm happy to touch base if you if you want to talk about your specific situation. Just shoot me shoot me an email. Okay, I'll do that. Thank you. Yep. So I do see another question Peter you want to take that one around examples of environmental organizations for interns. Yeah, so we've got a number of different options there's thanks for the question Aaron. But recently you know we've had students directly go and work for the EPA actually have another meeting with one of the offices in DC on Monday. And actually one of those is working with an alum of the Ford School, and then they've made those interns have made such an impact that there are other units within the EPA that now want to have for school interns. So, EPA, the governor's office here in Michigan the Executive Office of Policy, focus on environmental policy leads for the state. And then there's intern there the Michigan Environmental Council Eagle or environment relics and energy within the state of Michigan is another example too. We've had students that have gone on to work on the hill specifically focused on some environmental issues and students that have worked in DC at think tanks focused on different environmental issues. And then also the environmental consulting space, we've had a number of students kind of go on to different firms as well to work in that environmental policy, and then a number of other nonprofits. So I think the question of you, Aaron, where and how do you want to work in environmental policy, the EDF climate core, we've had students complete that internship fellowship recently to partner with nonprofits think the most recent example for that they were over at sustainable New Jersey working just outside of New York City. There's a number of different environmental policy opportunities. And a number of our students will also be involved in environmental policy at U of M where there's a number of different collaborative opportunities to work with our School of Sustainability too. So a lot of options, depending on the interests. And at the MP a level to we've had environmental policy at one of our alums is now that chief sustainability and resilience officer for a major city in the US. And so that, yeah, their environmental policies definitely top of mind right now any other questions. Any other questions for the group. I don't see any. I just want to say that the support side of our office hopefully you felt a little bit of that through all that we do. And you know what there's a support that we just provide in the highs and lows of a job search. There will be jobs that you are a final sport and you don't get and we are there to help you vent and help you redirect and, you know, acknowledge how difficult those can be, and we're there to support you as you negotiate salaries and make decisions between offers. And just to be a sounding board is you balance the multiple factors your career decisions do not happen in a vacuum there are multiple factors, family dynamics commitments responsibilities that we have that impact on our graphic mobility that impact on some of the choices and, and that's why we are where every story is different right there. There are no two students career path is identical.  So we hope that you complete your application to the Ford school and that we will see many of you here in the fall in person. I think there's cross that we stay the course on all of that. And I guess we'll turn it over back over to Beth now, but thank you all great questions. Thank you. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Jennifer. Thank you, Peter. This is all really helpful. Hopefully, you all got a chance to sort of hear the great supports that are provided by our graduate career services office. And I'm confident that they would be happy to answer any follow up questions if you have them. So just wanted to remind you again that the last webinar in the series is going to be on January 6 with our dean Michael bar. So if you're able to join us for that, that would be terrific. I just wanted to make a quick reminder that the application deadline is January 15. So, thank you so much again for coming and have a good afternoon. Thanks.


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Hey guys, welcome back to my channel. My name is Sonali and today I'm going to be reviewing these two new palettes from Dose of Colors. We have the Sassy Siennas and the Blushing Berries. In this video, I'm going to be sharing swatches of each palette and one eye tutorial for each palette as well. So to start off this video, let's get into some swatches. So we're going to do the Sassy Siennas first. So this palette has an array of just corals and warm browns to dark browns. So it goes from light to dark starting with Oso Sassy, Bossy, Foxy, Brassy, and the darkest color Stay Sassy. So for Blushing Berries, it obviously has a lot of berry colors. It has some mauves.  From light to dark, the colors are Berry Chic, Rose Berry, Berry Pop, Mixed Berries, and the darkest color Berry Black. So before I forget to mention, these palettes are cruelty-free, paraben-free, and talc-free. So that's really awesome because I know a lot of people are only starting to use cruelty-free brands for their everyday makeup looks. If I'm not mistaken, these palettes were around $32 each. Honestly, I love these palettes because they're so small and compact that they won't take much room out of my makeup bag. And between these two palettes, you'll have like every color that you would probably want because I know I'm super into like the mauves and the corals, but I also love the classic browns. So as you will see in the eye tutorial, these colors are very pigmented. And honestly, I don't really use glitter that often, but I think that a glitter on top of these looks would be so perfect and just add that finishing touch. Unfortunately, these palettes do not come with glitter, but that's why I think these palettes are so great for beginners because I always recommend starting off with mattes, and then once you feel comfortable with mattes, then go into the glitters and the shimmers. Each compact does come with a little mirror, and I think it's a pretty good size too. So let's get on to the tutorials. We're going to be starting off with Sassy Sienna's and then moving our way into Blushing Berry's. So for this look, we're actually only going to be using these three colors. These two are really pink. I know it kind of doesn't really come off in the camera, but this one is a really hot pink coral, and this one is kind of a muted down coral. So I'm going to go in with this foxy color and put that all over my lid. You first want to pat the eyeshadow down onto your lid and then start to blend it into the crease. So my first impression is it's super pigmented. I mean, as you can see, and this color is gorgeous. It reminds me of like all the really pretty colors in like ABH palettes that are like that reddish brown color. Now I'm going to start blending that out. I'm actually going to bring it up a little bit more into the crease and then blend that out. Next, we're going to take this color Brassy and actually put it on top of that color on our lid. I'm really into like a smoky eye, so like the darkest color on the lid. I love that look, but obviously you have to start off with the lightest and buff that into the crease. Last but not least, I'm taking Stay Sassy, this dark rich brown, and putting that on my lid as well. And once again, blend that out. We're going to go back in with the lightest shade Foxy and buff that back into our crease. So that's it for the lid. I'm going to go do this one and then come back to do my lower lash line. So my face makeup is pretty much done. So now we can move on to the lower lash line. We're going to just go in with this dark brown. So now we can move into the second palette, the more colorful palette, Blushing Berries. This is what the palette looks like. It is gorgeous and I'm so excited to play around with these colors because normally I do go for a brown smoky eye or like a warm tone smoky eye, but today I'm going to do something different. I think I'm going to try to use this brush and see how it does. I'm going to start with Rosemary and put it on my lid. Look at that pigment y'all. That is like two swipes. That's crazy. So first I'm just going to pat it on my lid. Then I'm going to use another brush to blend it out. So when I tried to blend it out, the pigment did kind of like disappear a little bit. Kind of got muted. So I'm just going to add a little bit more color and then blend it out again. I'm going to try this color out and buff it into my crease. So I'm going to take this color, which is mixed berries, and put it on the inner corner and outer corner. All right. I'm going to blend this out a little bit. I'm going to go back in with Rosemary and put that on the middle part of my lid. I'm going to use the pencil side of the brush and take this black. Okay, this pencil brush is amazing. Look, I feel like I could do a better wing with this than like actual liquid liner. So I think that's what I'm going to do. I think I'm just going to use this black as a little smoky eyeliner. So just try to smoke it out on your lash line. But I'm going to do a really thin line. Going back in with the lightest shade, I'm going to take that and blend out my crease a little bit more. I really do wish I had like a warm brown or like a light warm brown to blend it out because I feel like it's a little pink for the crease. So I think I'm going to have to like clean it up a little bit. So I'm pretty much done with my face makeup. Now we're going to move into the lower lash line. I want to make it super dark. I want to go in with the black and buff it out and make it really, really smoky. So I think we're going to take the two darkest colors and just smoke that out onto my lower lash line. I also cleaned up the wings a bit with some concealer. They're kind of pointy, very skinny. I don't know how I feel about them, but we're going to roll with it. I'm going to take mixed berries and start with this one. Be careful. There is a little bit of fallout that I see that just went on. We can deal with that later. Then I'm going to take this brush and buff it out. There is a little bit of excess of like the lighter color. So it's kind of mixing in. It's giving a really pretty color. So I ended up not using the black. I think it looks pretty dark even just using the second to darkest color. So I'm going to keep it like this. Let me go do my mascara and I will be right back. Okay guys, this is the completed look with the blushing berries palette from Dose of Colors. So I hope you guys enjoyed this video. I will have direct links to each of these palettes in my description box below. So I will see you guys in my next video. Bye guys!


Okay, so let's come up with a compound that is composed of only silicon and chlorine atoms, okay? So how do I do that? Well, I've already done the chlorine part, let's do that again. So the first thing I would wanna do is write out the two atoms. So silicon is Si, and then write out its Lewis structure, okay? So one, two, three, four. So from what we said, how many bonds do you think silicon is going to be making? Four. Four, okay? And chlorine, remember, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. So how many bonds is chlorine gonna make? One, so how many chlorines do you think you'll need for silicon? Four. Four, okay? So what I do, and again if you can do this in your head, you don't have to count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven every time. But I like to keep that lone electron next to the other atom. So now we're gonna make a covalent compound by attaching these two electrons together. So we're going to essentially make them get into their own orbital together, all the hybridized orbital, and we'll talk about that more later. So notice the arrows here, we call them fissure arrows, okay? They're half arrows, you guys see that? So half headed arrows. So notice they're all meeting in between. They're not like being donated to the silicon, okay? So they're sharing these electrons, remember? Sharing. So when we draw the structure, it's gonna be silicon with a covalent bond and chlorine with all of its valence electron still show. The thing you wanna know is that, can I erase this? The other thing you wanna know is that this drawing is on a two dimensional surface, but it's a three dimensional molecule, okay? It's a three dimensional object. So the Vesper theory states, so we'll be talking about Vesper theory a lot, the Vesper theory is valence shell electron pair repulsion, okay, Vesper. And I know that's not how you spell Vesper, but that's what they say, okay? It's like the separate or something like that. But anyways, we call it Vesper. And the valence shell electrons repulse each other, okay? That's the theory of Vesper. They hate each other, okay? So they wanna be as far away from each other as possible. So in order to do that, on a two dimensional surface, it might appear as 90 degrees being as far away from each other as they could possibly get. But these aren't two dimensional objects, okay? They're three dimensional objects. So in fact, they can get further away from each other than 90 degrees, okay? So the furthest four things can get away from each other is 109.5 degrees. So that's a number you're going to have to memorize, okay? You haven't memorized it already. So we're gonna draw what the actual structure of this molecule looks like. And again, this is still a three dimensional representation on a two dimensional board. But whenever you've got bonds that are just straight lines like that, that straight line, those mean that they're in the plane of the board, okay? When you've got something that looks like this, we call that a wedge, wedge bond. So that means it's coming towards us. And then there's another type of a bond. It's called a hashed bond. So you see the hash marking like that, okay? So hopefully you guys can see the three dimensionality to that if you can't. I'm gonna bring some models in next time and I'll pass them around and stuff, okay? So the thing is, is like I said, there's a bond angle here. Bond angle measures from the angle from bond to bond as you would imagine, okay? It's not a measurement of here to here. It's the bond to bond, okay? So this bond angle is 109.5 degrees and hopefully you guys can see that's bigger than 90 degrees, okay? So that's better for electrons because they don't wanna be near each other, okay? So again, three dimensional shape, best for theory, we'll get into it more more and more and more, this next one, okay? So any questions on this one? I know we're just starting out with this so I wouldn't follow you for not having any. Okay, cool.