We'll give fix. Oh, hey, Nikolai, just dropping me under the channel. I'll give it a few minutes, let people join. Did you attend the FIS summit last week? Nope, I don't know that it's happened. Was it a virtual one? Well, it was virtual and in-person. I didn't go in-person, but I did attend it virtually. No, they're here for recordings. I hope so. It looks like the recordings have been uploaded to the wiki page for the event. They have one recording per day. So like 12 hours worth of recording and then they have timestamps by the different talk areas in the wiki. So you got to scroll through or whatever to the specific time. There's some good stuff. TELUS was there talking. Orange did a, I think it was a virtual talk. A lot of stuff on Oran interoperability. Speaking of recording, this call is reported. Seeing a working group. These meetings. Recordings will be posted on the CNCF YouTube and the CNF working group playlist. You got any agenda topics, Nikolai? Nope, not really. Let's see, upcoming events. KCDs continuing. Have you attended any of those, Nikolai? The local regional. I think Tom is going to be at KCD in UK, London. I don't know how you get those on. We had one that was going to happen pretty close to myself, but it. It got canceled right before it was up, unfortunately. Let's see. We're going to be in. Cube con and Claudio. Coming up in November. And guess we do have. That one's virtual. We have a stream, I should say for that. Are you read? Are you. Connected remotely for that one, Nikolai? Are you going to be in person, Chicago? Chicago, no, nothing personal. Yeah. I might. Remote it, but might consider. All right. Trend to ramp up interest to be able to communicate for the EU. What needs to happen there. So a lot of changes. So you didn't see at an FAO. I guess I'll just say it here, but since it was. Announce there and it's now at least public on the wiki. There's. And I think more announcement specifics will be happening at cube con, but. There's been. An effort between CNC F and. Elephant. Try to provide some type of unified. Testing and certification and a bunch of other stuff, which would be related to the CNF working group and. The test suites used by Aniket RC two already, and by Silva, Silva project and Linux, Sonish, Europe is. Using both Aniket and the CNCF. Test suite and best practices as parts of what they're doing. So I'm trying to find a way for the elephant and CNCF domain specific stuff to be. More unified when people are looking to work on them or. With where they should go. So. There'll be more of that like during clad in telco day and keep con announced and trying to figure out where that should be. So it'd be good to get feedback on. Stuff like the. CNF working group home where it should land. What makes sense. There's been some. Feedback from CSPs about having. Continue to have. That I guess the horizontal across all domains. Input and collaboration from CNCF. While having the domain specific stuff in elephant. So. I think it would be good to figure that out. I've been back and forth myself. It seems like something like the CNF working group would be good to have within CNCF though. For itself, even if maybe. Telecom specific challenges would be addressed directly under elephant. The best practices that were maybe even just if we just talked about cloud native best practices and not just. Networking and telecom specific, there'd be some type of working group to feed back in. Maybe have. Expand what happens in this group. We have had some people note that the best practices that we've been working on and publishing are applicable for any application. So you could just say cloud native applications running in Kubernetes and. And then talk about. Platform stuff. If you look at things like Deutsche telecom and. Chef. For deploying doing deployments and they're using flex. Well, they're using get ops patterns and those are not specific at all for. Telecom, those are. You know, would be good for anybody to pick up and. Even nephew. They're their use cases and stuff are really focused and the networking world, but. What they're building on, especially like KPT is not networking and telecom specific KPT is usable by anybody. So anyways, we need to figure that out. Where that goes. And I think that would relate to stuff like coach your nominations. If the work, seeing if this working group stays under CNCF. Where does it fit? Does it just keep floating at the top? Do we do something like put it under. The app delivery. We were kind of staying separate because we thought it was a little bit of tag networking a little bit of tag. App delivery and several other things. If it goes, if this group ends up migrating over to. Then what do we do about coach your nominations? Does that make sense? You have any immediate thoughts. Yeah, I mean it's interesting to see how something like this evolves over time and as you said you said it at some point you realize that. I'm not that specific as one kind of thought in the beginning, but I think that that's more or less what was the point of the whole effort right that. Whatever the cause require. I'd like is raising the bar for overall like require months towards the infrastructure, the reliability, high availability and so on and so forth all of this actually can benefit the rest of the ecosystem as much as. And the other way around all the practices around specifically around deployment, you know the flexibility that the cloud native is bringing. It's definitely benefiting the telco so I think that the ultimate goal. But what I'm hearing here is more or less like we're close to it and it's like that that there's not that much difference between the telcos and the regular enterprise type of workloads. Okay, of course, the differences are there and probably will stay, but they're kind of shrinking. And as you just said about that does shift. In the end, the practices are just a regular application practices not not anything that's not new and if you if you look about it I mean the version of the telcos like 20 years ago. There was still all these crazy specific protocols going around. And now we're talking that even the way that the applications are being deployed are more or less aligned with the rest of the world, which is which is a huge huge huge step forward. So, where should it live. Yeah, maybe as you said, being part of the hub delivery probably makes sense. I don't know what the other options are there I mean specifically within CNCF. Hey Victor. Hello Taylor. What happened during the FIO as far as the discussion about CNCF and LFN and then where would that put this working group, you know where should it land. And that would be suggestions and recommendations for CNCF and LFN on that and that relates to like the co true nominations. If we have a something like this working group, whatever it keeps the same name change name or whatever but the season CNCF fine for nominations if it doesn't then doesn't matter. And there is a request from hearing from like some CSB to have something overlapping so it's fine to have a unified front and wherever it should be so the domain specific stuff maybe the testing and certification under LFN but where does where do you have other stuff. And there are people that are happy for the adoption that next I was talking about where are the general purpose cloud native practices that are the same everywhere are being used the same in telco space. And it's where telco is no different than try to use the same practices. So, where should this working group go. Would you put something like the chef, if it was a. You know, I mean it's, you know, specifically for the show telecom. What if you had a version of this that was just take the engine and the ideas and not say it's for telecom it seems like. Okay, this would just be a get ops based. deployment thing, kind of like an FIO is really general purpose capability. Yeah. So, so I think, like, I think that there is like a more DevOps adoption and I'm going to try to expand that idea I mean, we have been saying that for years and it is not something new but the way that I see the things is like. If we see in the past, usually operators, try to build the infrastructure and provide whatever, but it's available like they have a free devices or any special other features. So, and usually developers didn't have like that knowledge like even in the way that we validate that certified workloads. Like, I mean, I can check out. Think about it like in the past where we have programs which were certified. Just infrastructure like using an okay and that all the efforts and all the initiative people are just focusing in just infrastructure. And later you have to certify your, your workloads like with our problems. I guess, like the major difference in FIO is, I feel like it's more like application driven, like, who is going to dictate what you need from your infrastructure perspective is obviously going to be the, the app. So, so now the CNF the vendors has to dictate like, okay, this is my app and the things that I need for my app. And the infrastructure has to provide that like that. And I guess that that's a major difference like that, because in the past, yeah, you have to do different rules for a different two different things, and no one was showing things. Yes, that's a secret sauce for me like an FIO is like offering like saying, well, this is my, my package, my KPP package, which is provided in this particular CNF application and the CNF application requires these cluster requirements. And if those things are provided or not provided, or you have to create like a new cluster just for this single app. I have to create it. I guess that that's major difference compared with the other applications and other ways to do it in the past. I mean, maybe it's my just perspective for So, so in that sense, I guess, coming back for like what we have is trying to combine the, the, the, the certifications programs like, like the, like the LSN certification program with the CNF, CNCNF program. I guess I didn't make sense because I guess now how mainly the application is going to dictate the requirements and we need to think about different ways to set side workloads or provide like a secure way to provide certain level of certainty for the, for the consumers. And are you referring to telecom workloads still? Like, like, like, or just workloads in general. No, just, well, in this particular case, yeah, I guess, I mean, so that there's still a does a request to have like cloud nativeness for the telecom workloads. It would be how do you help with those additional ones and FAO is trying to cover those with what are the practices for using operators and other things for operator pattern and other stuff to provide additional capabilities for CNS. On the other hand, I don't find that to be make make a very strong driving motivation that telecom workloads are so different from everything else that you're going to need operator patterns with a framework like FIO that would never be used anywhere. The very first place I think of would be similar to telecom edge deployments where you may say we need this type of performance. We need this, you know, whatever capabilities and it's different from other applications. But then think about manufacturing on edge and not the not the communication standpoint, just the capabilities for, you know, near, you know, instant performance or whatever, you know, real time performance. When you say real time, it's always, what do you mean by real time but you AI models push to the edge and having to do decisions that are near real time to run manufacturing things that have nothing to do with potentially that the communication side so you may still want that you may need to have like high speed networking capabilities, but that can be in addition to say a AI models that are pushed down and then run locally on the edge and then are making decisions and you need to make sure that the processing power, maybe you have specialized chips or something like that, or you have sensing data. You have specialized equipment and you need to interface with that. So then how do you do that and think well, you should have a, you could still have a modular application and something is focused on the AI model and something is focused on gathering sensing data. So I still think like a lot of the same challenges are going to be in other domains. Yes, like, I mean what what I was trying to say, like, like, maybe in the past, like, I mean, I can take, for example, I don't get an example. We were trying to model or expose as many about this as possible, like, okay, the infrastructure has to have support for multiple weeks, and you have a, I mean, just the model or the reference you have to have like maybe or genus or anything like that, but probably your CNS never required that, like, I mean, it was super, it was great, like with a single interface, it was working fine and it had to, and there is no reason to think about an extra network interface. So I think that's, I guess, the major difference like in the past we were like trying to expose as much as as much as possible, even when we probably know that the, the, the workloads never going to be as a model them or are just a portion of them. So I guess I think now that the difference is like, okay, well, maybe as you said, like, this is a traditional workload, like, that doesn't require like anything special like high performance and anything like that. So, I guess, who has to dictate how the infrastructure has to be mostly like the application per se and who is going to express the intent like this is my intent of infrastructure. I know that I have all these capabilities, but I just need this working. It really makes sense, as far as communicating that intent, intent driven, integration and deployment and all of those things that those type of patterns are not specific to telecom. We're telling the telecom application developers and, you know, whoever's doing deployment and the consumers that this is the practices. The, how you should actually do it. That's what we're trying to say, and that's not telecom specific. We are trying to help the telecom take on practices, but we also want other people to do the same thing. So then when those application developers for networking apps are trying to inform the platform or destination, wherever they're going, what they need that they're doing in a cloud native way. So that I guess this gets back to, you know, the question and we're not saying today, but we need to be thinking about it. Where should this working group go, you know, when it says a CNF right here containers should handle single concern and service. We really are just saying any application, any application running in cloud native environment. Should try to have each of its containers handling only a single concern. So you break your services. This is related to microservice patterns. And we want to encourage that. We were targeting with the use cases in the language we were targeting. The. Helco domain and networking. Application developers and trying to communicate that. Because we're saying this domain is behind really is why we're doing it. We're saying you're not taking advantage of DevOps patterns. You're not taking advantage of. Microsoft is micro service architecture patterns and practices. And if you're running in those environments where. They were designed. These platforms Kubernetes was designed to run micro services. So, if you're not running micro services. Then you're going to be limited in some ways on Kubernetes. Because it was designed that way. But where should we go. Do we do we try to encourage that there's a CNF working group equivalent to what we're doing here within elephant. Victor. The, you know, I've, I've been on the project along with you for years and it's not the same as the CNF working group, the way that we've been doing it what we've been trying to get through. And should this group move under elephant. Should this group. Stay under CNCF. Should we change it to make it more generic put it under. I think next slide you were saying maybe under the app delivery. What do you think Victor. Talking last week with Oliver. He's about like. They asked. Consumer of these particular programs. Are the occasion. And you think about like a from the consumer customer point of view like. They have if we have two separate programs where they have paid for everything with a membership and in order to get the batch and all the things. Yeah, you're putting basically the, the, the bar more higher, like, okay, I'm going to pay two members sheets. I'm going to apply for two different programs and I'm going to get the double of the batches. I think the double thing, so the double benefits. I'm not sure if you are providing that particular double benefits. So, so probably the answer is like, if we are offering the double of benefits, the double of customers or double of income for the participants. It makes sense to keep them separate. I mean, just trying to be more like some empathy for them like that. The other thing is also regarding try to coordinate efforts. And usually we are the most the same people working in both places. So maybe that can reduce the number of disconnection. So I see more reasons to try to unify efforts instead of keeping them separately. Of course, like that, complete different two topics, different domains, one is obviously more for infrastructure for people supporting these cloud service providers and just more for seeing offenders. So obviously the expectations and things are more, more different. To keep it separate. Well, we have been doing this for years and maybe we have seen the trends and the benefits. And also we have seen the trend that is going to be done okay. The last few years. It's time to rethink about it and maybe change a little bit. An experiment new new ways to improve it probably probably it's going to be fine to try. From the vendor side, I guess, you know, I don't I don't know what that would look like. Someone like Intel. They're contributing directly to Kubernetes. Multis being a CNI and they're part of the network plumbing working group and their Kubernetes and they're part of other things directly in CNCS. They're also part of elephants so it seems like the company.  So they are domain specific when you think of them as a company like, okay, it makes sense that, you know, Linux foundation networking is helping to drive and listen. That's their domain or just telecom is under networking. It's within networking. There's a lot of different areas on networking. On the other hand, you have them using flux and psyllium and, you know, multis and of course Kubernetes so if they're not part of the Kubernetes community, then how are they going to have their feedback and their challenges directly heard. You could say that they haven't heard by say elephant and elephant is going to go listen and elephant is going to be part of the community, but now it's indirect. So the end user is not. Giving feedback directly to this project. So in my opinion, that doesn't make sense. And I know that at least some of them aren't going to separate.  They are, you know, using flux, they're going to stay part of the CNCF and Kubernetes community, but they're also doing stuff with, you know, there's projects within all of them. And I don't know how that should fit. I have suggested in the past that maybe Linux foundation should have some type of dual membership for groups that really want to be part of everything. You know, I don't know what that look like. Yeah, more than a single membership but less than having two memberships or whatever. As you add more it becomes cheaper. I don't know this is me on the outside just thinking but those that are trying to take on cloud native practices so if you look at say tell us they're running networking applications serverless on AWS lambda. They, that's not traditional telecom practices. They're not running some of the traditional applications for them to be able to do that in production right now. They should tell calm launched a production version of their Kubernetes on bare metal that's deployed from get ops a few weeks ago and that's in production running 5G, you know, traffic right now. That's also not traditional, and it seems like there should be direct feedback into the cloud native CNC F community for the projects that they're using directly in the Kubernetes. But they're also needing staff, I think, from projects like nephew which are going direct moving migrating into LFN from LF. I don't know who's using VPP based networking applications in production, but I know that there's vendors that are writing VPP so. And they're running among Kubernetes. So now we have, you know, definitely networking focus at FDA so elephant project that running in Kubernetes so they're there needs to be something. Victor there needs to be some type of something where we can have them collaborating and continuing to work together. And what I think that we cannot continue doing the same thing and expecting some results like. Yeah. That makes sense. I don't know what it that looks like though, so that you know if that potentially like the word, I think we're still we're still trying to figure this out and by the time we get to cube con cloud native day then some of it will be decided and some of it still be decisions because there is a workshop happening during cube con to continue these conversations but the test suite and the certification that are domain specific seems like it makes sense. It's really where did the different things go. And that's the question. Where should something like this working group go, which was trying to get best practice feedback. And maybe there needs to be a change. And, you know, what we're talking earlier and Nick, I was saying maybe under the app delivery or something like that maybe if there is a change Victor but it's within CNC F. And getting behind something specific would be good, or maybe it does need to make to the elephant. Okay, yeah. By the way, Nikolai, are you expecting to, are you coming to the Chicago, the cube con. Sorry, no, no. No this time. Okay. No shooting for parties. Okay, well. All right. Well, anything else. I'm still interested in writing at best practice stuff. And if nothing else will take content and try to put together some larger paper like this issues by adding the practices we have. I still think something like this would be useful wherever this group goes whatever the future. Victor we were talking about looking at best practices from FAM. Now that we're through the technical summit. If you have some thoughts or ideas on that. Let me know. Okay. Yeah. Do you have any best practice ideas somewhere where people aren't talking about them and we should try to push them forward. Nothing comes to mind in this point but I might think of is this the list of the categories. Yeah, just think of it as areas to inspire. Yeah, probably is going to need a another round of adjustments based on how people are currently talking about stuff. But observability and diagnostics of course these are big topics that at least I have kind of came across about I mean I don't I don't know what we have added here but I mean and it's. I don't think anything yet. There's no best practice proposed we might have like GitHub issues about observability or there's definitely discussions but there is no published best practice. So if there's like a specific challenge to put forward. So here we need to have. I guess specific maybe to the telecom network and domain. Here's here was one that somebody put forward I guess the observability. And then I wrote it down and put push the issue. But if something you're thinking of. You might want to mean you, you have at least two kinds of viewpoints one is for the process or you know the application itself and the other one is the outside like the communication and focus are at least legally required to be able to observe, you know, and to monitor the external traffic so that's one thing that's kind of, you know, to do so essentially the infrastructure. That's there should should be able to to provide these capabilities and what this is kind of best practice but kind of have to provide it in any case. That sounds like something we should have put in to this practice, we, we did talk about observability for how this practice. If you have everything like as a monolith, then you aren't going to be able to see what's going on between the services that are talking is related. To what you're talking about. So I don't know if, if you're talking more of like a non functional observability requirements and then we'd need to break down what are functional requirements to meet that, but think about it and then maybe come back and write that up. And Victor, if you come up with something that you think is relevant for the nephew, KPD configuration stuff or get ops or whatever, or could be the operator stuff you're talking about. All right. Thanks everyone. Have a good day and a good week. Thank you. Thank you.


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the ABCs of deep northern survival and one fine snowy day found himself standing at attention before a hard-bitten major that is McWilliams captain Martin tell you anything about this no sir he just said to get over here on the double so I got well from your record it appears that you take to this kind of duty I like it fine sir you've never been on skis or snowshoes before you came here no sir I'd never seen snow neither all my life I've been wanting to see some snow well seems like you've got your wish in a big way tell me McWilliams did you become a medic by preference I most surely did sir my papi always used to say I had the gift of the heel in hand well I've got a job for you as rugged as they come I don't mind telling you we've only got top men on it sounds real interesting sir come over here this is the territory you'll be going to base headquarters is located here in the valley see and your post is up here on top of this mountain from what I gathered the accommodations are not exactly palatial it was begun last summer now that winter is closed in all building has ceased you'll be the only medic there'll be no doctor unless there's an emergency then you can have one flown in you'll have 24 men to look after in between times you'll be doing guard duty anything else it comes up how's the sound to you my major sounds like I'm gonna find out what it's like to be a polar bear I wouldn't doubt it now as you know the outpost perched on a mountain top overlooked a vast corrugated sea of quite it was no more than a small cluster of tents and odd-shaped buildings huddled close together against the Arctic winds but amidst the cluster were groups strange-looking radar nets patiently fishing the sub-zero air and revealing the outposts purpose one of many it was a small but vital link in the defense system of the Alaskan command here's that report lieutenant oh thanks sergeant you got a brand new medic fixed up yes sir don't sound so sad so I he's green sir awful green to be up here just out of indoctrination look he wouldn't have been assigned to us if he didn't know his stuff the only thing he's green to is this weather and he seems to like it you'd hardly figure a man who had lived where it was so hot all his life would want to live where it was so cold especially with the name Lucifer Lucifer son of the morning yes sir all six foot three of them hey come on close the door that glass of door can't you ever come in the right door Lee boy a little fresh airs best thing in the world for you all sides the winds just as tunnel strong around the other side Lucifer you learn any more Eskimo talk well I'm picking it up a might at a time but you know Dan that is the most peculiar way of talking I ever did here yeah I sometimes wonder how they mess the most got to know it themselves my papi told me once about an old Indian used to live a way back in the bayou you mind if I ask you a question huh why why sure sure you go right ahead Dan Lucifer where'd you get the name Lucifer well when I was born my papi took one look at me and said I don't know what he is but he sure enough looks like the devil naturally after that there wasn't anything my mom could do but call me Lucifer yeah it's kind of a nice name don't you all good morning sir I think it's going well going just fine lieutenant this living up high in the cold must be right good medicine hasn't been a sneeze around here and I don't know when my papi always used to say there wasn't no place more life preserving than the deep bayous but I got him one beat I'm glad to hear it you like it up here I most certainly do sir I must have some icicle in me somewhere but where I got it I don't rightly know well come spring we'll be enlarging the post you'll have a chat mark just picked up an SOS playing down somewhere north of here they couldn't get it up on scope before it hit come on marks now we're trying to get a fixer they're still sending it's awful weak and tough to locate hi coming Lee I don't know yet have they identified themselves civilian planes are four men aboard what kind of shape are they in I don't know signals very weak getting weaker we don't get a fix it won't matter what kind of shape they're in very luckily I'm so blasted fate I'm gonna pick it up they didn't know their own location I weren't sure sir got lost in the storm we didn't pick up their call until just before they hit no chance to get them on the scope I can't hear them anymore Dan did you get a fix great I got one sir but I wouldn't bet on its accuracy could be way off let's have a look somewhere right in here I make it out certainly picked himself some rough country to go down it about 50 miles northeast through the air sir yeah I know how far off could you be on this thing I had to say maybe as much as 25 miles it's awful tricky to try and nail down a signal like that sir but if anyone could do it Lieutenant he could all right you two stay on it maybe you'll be able to pick them up again keep trying come on sergeant we've got to get a call through to the main base sit down man this is the pitch there's no telling how much longer this storm will last that means air rescue is out until it's over we happen to be closer to the wreck than any other post and the only possible rescue will have to be made on foot with dog teams now I've gotten permission to make a try but it's strictly a volunteer detail it'll be a five-man party with an Eskimo scout as guide I'm leading the party and sergeant Stuart will be in charge of the post while I'm gone well I need three more of you to go along with me go ahead but we'll just make a snappy there's four fellas down out there somewhere and to be sure they must be banged up some now if you had a doctor here he'd be going along with you but you don't none the next best thing to it and I rightly think I should get the pleasure of going I can break trail with the best of them and I'm no slouch on skis or snowshoes I can even talk some Eskimo how much as good as our Eskimo guy can speak English I'll bet maybe not quite sir but the point is you've got 20 men here that you're responsible for every one of them fit and fine you ever set a broken bone lieutenant you know what to do for fellow if he's busted up inside or in deep shock if we find them fellas they're gonna need the best we got when it comes to patching them up I'm the best you got not meaning anything disrespectful but Williams you missed your calling you should have been a lawyer what do you think so I didn't a point sir I can take care of things here all right look Williams you won your case make sense get yourself ready on the double listen to that bird I think he was going on a picnic this is one picnic a polar bear would turn down what you want you to go for them I'm not a polar bear me there my stop your grown in and get that stuff ready hey Lucifer how you coming yeah one we can take turns making ourselves why didn't you know son that I'm the best little old trail breaker from here to Louisiana you guys cut the game come on March you'll be responsible for the radio equipment it's to be packed here on the number two sled McWilliams your supplies will be packed there to hold another equipment will be evenly divided between both sleds now gather on this map according to the guide our best bet is to cut down this ravine till we hit the river and then follow it to here across at this point and head northeasterly the going shouldn't be too rough until we hit the foothills here we're going out in the worst possible weather on the worst possible kind of trip we've got about a 50 to one shot that we'll find what we're looking for survival depends on knowledge and coolness and courage and somewhere in it is a wrecked plane and poor men waking hoping pray Bob you think anyone heard our call Bob you think somebody hurt us Bob they could easily sure take it easy they hurt us sit here and wait that's all wait Bob I can't wait long I tell you I can't an inching along the frozen waste five men heads bowed to the lash of the storm searching searching we found a good place to make camp cave how far just a short piece sir the wind is picking up again as a cave empty yes dogs fine lieutenant get sleep ready to mush what are you looking so sad about green how can we ever find them in time sir what do you suggest that I don't suggest anything sir except that we keep going well then stop feeling so sad about it we've covered 10 miles that's 10 miles to the good that's 10 miles closer to rescue maybe lieutenant but I'm not betting on the position that's the chance we take all we can do is take it and hope that we're right it's possible this storm will blow itself out tonight but does the planes that go out and find them cooking up my my all the comforts are home Lucifer fixed the covering let's keep the wind out where it belongs I beg your humble pardon sir I remember one time I'm a quick williams well lieutenant I didn't want to go too far and that wind out there didn't want me to go anywhere's at all and my papa used to say yes sir appears like there's a draw running down all the way to the river shouldn't be hard to get down through it you go as far as the river I got down to it but I didn't go on across all set lieutenant good give them a call Baker 05 Baker 05 easy 3 calling easy 3 calling go ahead Baker 05 over okay lieutenant this little tenant bond we're holed up in a cave just above the river estimate our position approximately 10 miles northeast of you request latest weather info over to you Baker 05 notify headquarters party in a one shape moving out at 0400 hours we'll call you at 1800 hours if unable to make contact by voice we'll use key over thanks Baker 05 odd now let's get some chow and hit the sack we've got a rough road ahead we are listening to the proudly we hail production Lucifer heads north we'll return in just a moment for the second act a man with money to invest doesn't splurge it wildly on the 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two take only a certain amount of carefulness but when you're breaking trail when you're fighting your way through blinding snow you not only get overheated you become exhausted and then every bitter step of the way becomes a battle all right we'll take a break your sledge no shelter here let's squat down here by the sleds get our wind and then go on I'm gonna make camp here please get your pocket tightened up you take care of your clothes I'll take care of mine son you do as I'm saying or I'll do it for you green doors he says you know better than that keep your clothes tight when you're not moving Joe Mike what do you think not so good lieutenant dogs they don't stop soon for good rest them and me both gather around while I get out the map any change in the terrain ahead with Williams I don't reckon this is where we were this morning once we get in the lee of these mountains that should give us some relief and I do declare I must have some eskimo in me somewhere don't worry about your ancestry lady my papi always said I was part bird dog when I should go ahead lieutenant now you broke and trail more than your share green and I'll go ahead I want to keep in visual contact at all times I don't want anyone getting lost and one thing to remember that might help if you think that we've got it rough think of how those guys at the wreck must be wind seems to have died some where's Phil and John getting more wood waste of time I just as well all the way down and go to sleep sleep from cut that kind of talk show we're all still alive aren't we after how long you saw my leg pretty ain't it how much food left Bob no one will find us here except wolves shut up sure I got more faith in you ain't faith it's fact I got facts been laying here for how long I've been laying here you got the facts and look at you with your arm all busted up and look at me what dead in the lion no and all this earth ever if you want to give up you go on right ahead if you don't want to stay alive go crawl out there in the snow I won't stop you but I want to live all right well then stop belly aching stop belly aching about dying do a little praying about living here you're a real one Bob you're Jim dandy I'm not giving up not right to the end which ain't far off well I'll make it as far as I can I'll knock it off and try to sleep you need your strength lieutenant yeah what is it Mac what have you got in mind fellas we're looking for somewhere on the other side of the mountain if green's fix was accurate either way quicker we find out the better troll you hear that Bob windshifted it's gonna clear soon then you and Phil and John can strike out don't talk nonsense none of us could walk 10 feet when the woods gone this time that'll be the end I was not going yet regular bulldog ain't you Bob well I can breathe I can hope I don't rightly think that snow feels very friendly to us hadn't been for you Mac we'd have lost a second sled I think I had some help lieutenant my papi always said it's the help you can't see that counts the I'll buy that dogs all right too much okay lieutenant ready too much let's keep going according to greens fix the wreck should be somewhere ahead in the valley undoubtedly it's been covered with snow and there's no telling how long we'd search before we could find it storm about over yeah let's not waste time playing weatherman we'll move through the valley I'll fire my gun every so often there are hunters they'll answer it if they're there sure sure yeah I heard something Phil John wake up done for I tell you I heard something wake up you guys come on you can't quit now I didn't hear nothing nothing to hear I can see where the valley ends down there all right we'll keep moving and shooting till we reach the end see anything too much nothing sir give it another try hey was I hearing things from somewhere up trees I can see smoke come on let's move on you'd come I knew you'd come I kept telling him I kept telling sure sure sure wake up no no you just you just rest easy mr everything's gonna be how many grits from here on in lieutenant soon as we get the fire hot enough we'll rig a tub out of this top a tub three of them are suffering from mostly shock and exposure best treatment is to get him into the hottest water they can stand what about him this fella's got a broken arm not too bad put a splint on it about the one called sure he's bad lieutenant leg all tore up full of pieces of metal gonna give him plasma pulses mighty weak you're the doctor here Mac you tell us whatever you want us to do I'm gonna try and get a call through the home plate holler when you need me you better sit down take it easy sir you're fair tuck it out what about yourself well it's funny thing about me sir I just don't tucker come in Baker 05 come in Baker 05 this is easy three calling Baker 05 easy 3 calling Baker 05 it takes a good man like Marx to make this thing click all we can hope is they're receiving us even though we're not receiving them clear sky lieutenant planes come soon sure hope they get to us didn't apply as my help I'm gonna give him more right away it's his leg lieutenant those pieces of metal should come out could you take them out Mac I'm no doc lieutenant just a medic never mind that could you do the job I think so sir I need your help you'll also need his permission you got it soldier boy you go right ahead and do what you think best okay let's go with the aid of a camp light a tall Mikey stone-faced medic goes definitely to work the lieutenant who holds the light watches the hands of the man move quickly and surely only the sound of heavy breathing fills the tent outside the stars gleam weakly in the cold darkness a wolf cries a man sighs another cough but for the rest it's silence as PFC Lucifer McWilliams does what he can to save a life the odd stacked heavily against him and later when it's done and there's nothing left but to wait through the long night hours the call keeps going out over and over this is easy three easy three have located downed plain in position established by fix request immediate air rescue request immediate air rescue this is easy three we can't wait any longer lieutenant guide says it'll be snowing in another hour I know but can he last through the trip back I don't know sir but I know he won't last long here even if they didn't get our message you think they'd be out looking we'll start getting things ready lieutenant my pappy always used what's mine well I don't believe that this is the place for mosquitoes but I could swear I hear one look look they're coming over the hill well I do declare two of the prettiest looking helicopters I ever did see hey you fellas you hear that you're getting out of here fast what do you think of that Bob as you all go I always told you we'd get out of here so you did so you did hey son you come here what can I do for you all what's your name son Lucifer Mack Williams private first class your first class of my book boy hey what you say that name was again Lucifer Mack Williams Lucifer hey hey you hear that Bob hey John Bill here with this boy's name is Lucifer you may be Lucifer to everyone else on this earth you'll always be Gabriel to me what your interest is it radio photography motor mechanics metalwork if you'd like to learn a highly skilled well-paid trade like pharmacy watch repairs photography motor mechanics or electronics there's no better place to learn than in the United States Army the Army offers training in dozens of highly specialized jobs jobs it will pay you well for the rest of your life many veterans have already used their army training and experience to build profitable careers for themselves out of the skills the Army taught them you can do the same visit your local United States Army and United States Air Force recruiting station today talk it over and find out what's in it for you when you serve your country as an American soldier this has been another program on proudly we 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Good morning everybody. How you guys doing today? I hope you guys are doing good. It is September and I don't think I've ever mentioned this But September is my favorite month in the entire year and most people's favorite month is their their birthday month Not me for me. I just love the weather the way this zone is in the sky the freshness It's almost like you're starting a new year and I think that really kind of comes from probably a school year It's like you can do stuff in September, you know, so I'm back with my Friday favorites This is what I usually do on the first Friday or the last Friday of the month So for my Friday favorites, I typically do five categories I have a home favorite a hair favorite a makeup favorite a beauty tool or a hack Which is a new thing that I'm adding in and then a book or a tv show So like I always try and stick to those five. Oh, and I also share something new that I am testing out as well That's kind of how I like to do my Friday favorites. So let's jump into it My favorite thing to do and this makes me sound so boring, but you know what? Everyone has their thing but my favorite thing to do is to deep clean my house. I am really messy I'm naturally a very messy person and so my house is either a complete mess Which is everything in front of me right now. It's complete mess or it's squeaky clean. There are my two things It's like myself. I'm either like super calm Or I don't get out of bed. It's just one or the other and so getting a new product that I love I'm like, oh, yeah, this is the doctor power.  It kind of smells, you know, like clean-y citrusy That's what it smells like and then it has a sponge which apparently the sponge has a smooth side and a rough side They both feel the same to me. I don't understand what they're talking about I especially love it for cleaning the hob. So I have a glass hob right Listen, Davey loves to cook and I love that man More than anything he is amazing and he is an amazing cook But the hob is always getting messy and I wake up in the morning and I'm like, oh, here we go again I gotta clean this hob. You have a glass hob. You know how difficult it is to get it clean not now Not with this stuff or pink stuff saves me so much time And I actually enjoy cleaning it because it gets so sparkling clean as if I've just bought it Like it looks brand new every single time I use this or the pink stuff and it's not in the cleaning area It's like in another separate area because it's as seen on tv So you might have to kind of look around for it, but if you can't get pink stuff this stuff works So that's the home category the next category is a book or a tv show I haven't really been getting into that many books recently But I have been watching a few different shows. I've been watching desperate housewives again and I finished it It's weird to watch as an adult because you pick up on things like so differently I think when you're younger and you're watching it you're kind of just seeing what it is and seeing it play out But when you have experiences as you grow older You kind of experience the show differently all the dynamics between the like the different people It's so ridiculous, but I love it. You know, like it's it's like there's so much It's like a murder mystery drama filled thing, but it's just so easy to get lost in so I loved that I I watched the whole thing again. Let me know who your favorite character is because I Oh, I'm sort of like I love susan. I think she's probably my favorite character But I love the dynamic between carlos and gabby. I feel like their relationship. Oh, I love it I feel like they have like the strongest relationship if you've ever watched it Let me know who your favorite character or your least favorite character. Davey doesn't like brie very much I don't think brie likes brie Another show that me and Davey been watching actually is x-files. Oh, I love x-files It's so easy to enjoy without feeling too scared even though one night I got really scared after watching it So there's a couple of episodes that are a bit dicey, but other than that It's a it's a it's a wonderful show and we watch as a couple I have a whole alien story actually because I want to talk about that in another video But I think I saw an alien spaceship once and I sound crazy saying that but I have my suspicions that what I saw Was an alien spaceship. Anyway That's a whole other thing the show that I'm currently watching though is frankie and grace or grace and frankie I love that show. I want to be them these like 70 year old women Who are like taken on the world and and I love it and it gets better with time Just like just like the actresses do they're two of my favorite actresses. Have you seen nine to five? They're a nine to five. So I feel like that's why I'm drawn to that show so much. So those are just a couple of recommendations Oh, I also watch clickbait On netflix. I I hate being negative about anything. I'm just not that type of person But I found that clickbait was like just off the mark if that makes sense It had all the elements, but they didn't mix together if that makes sense the only way I can describe clickbait It's like carrot cake. It's it's carrot cake. Yes, it's still cake But it's made of carrots and if I want to have carrots then I'm going to mash them up with some parsnip And if I want to have cake, I want to have like chocolate cake You know, it's good. It's just not great moving on to my favorite Makeup product. I want to talk about a convenient product that has really helped me with With my chronic illness, which I I talked about in my previous video and this sounds really strange Well, let me just explain it spring water Can it's a very fine Mist but it really soaks your skin But what I use it for is when my sponge is damp We're like not wet enough to kind of like really bounce off the skin And I I can't get up. I can spray it onto my sponge and it dampens it enough to make it kind of bouncy This is the man canvas sponge by the way It's great if you've forgotten to wet your sponge or you just can't get up to go and wet your sponge So I keep it in my my makeup case Which has everything conveniently laid out for me applying makeup is so therapeutic and relaxing for me Particularly when my illness is really bad So I like having tools in there that help make it so much easier And this is this is one product that does that moving on to my favorite hair product of the month. I actually just um Bleached my hair a little bit. I don't know if I'm doing the right thing And so if there's any hairdressers watching, please correct me if I'm wrong But I have like highlights in my hair But my hair naturally has like kind of orangey Kind of yellowy tones in it. This is the purple oil So basically you put two to three drops in your hair use it on your damp hair And then you blow dry your hair your style your hair It's supposed to neutralize the yellow and orange tones in your hair It means that I can really pinpoint the areas that I have highlighted That's one thing that I've really learned about bleaching my own hair is it's a lot about toning Like you can dye your hair until you're blue in the face Blue in the face unless you use the correct tone or like a purple toner You won't get that right effect And toning is just one thing that you can really do for your hair that makes such a difference I'm talking like I know what I'm talking about, but I don't know what I'm talking about I'm loving having slightly lighter hair again Which is nice because I finally got rid of the black out of my hair That was a very long process to get the black out of my hair. Hair dressers wouldn't do it I literally were like we can't help you. I'm sorry. Goodbye So I did it myself and it worked. If you want a video on that, let me know Moving on. So usually at this point I do a makeup tool. I also wanted to add in a hat So this is going to be like a makeup tool slash hat that I found that I really like So this this month it's going to be a hack and it's using tan for fake freckles and on your lip line I don't have it done today because it doesn't fall today doesn't fall on the day that I usually do my tan I use the moose tans because they develop quite quickly and it means I can kind of control how dark it goes You know your your white line that you have around your lips You use fake tan on that area and then you can also add in like freckles using like a little Lip liner brush So I do like my lip line and then I add in some freckles And then I might do a little bit of contouring with a two, you know And then I kind of rinse it off and what you end up with is almost like fake makeup It doesn't last that long. It only probably lasts like three days, you know, especially like the lip liner, but it looks amazing I love it so much. So I'm going to do a video on that really soon. So that's my favorite makeup tool slash hack for this month I love it. I think it's brilliant. And you know where I found it on tiktok Didn't think I'd like tiktok as much as I do, but I like it and this is also one of my favorite tans This is the sun kissed expressed hand and I love it because it is golden and beautiful And it makes me feel great and I only leave it on for maybe like 15 minutes because I'm I'm so pale So if I leave it on for 15 minutes, that's enough for me Which with my chronic illness really helps and finally I always like to end my videos with something that I am trying Which I will review for next month. So these came in PR the Kiehl's retinol skin renewing Daily micro dose serum. It's a very long name of the product. If you're over a certain age Then you should probably start using retinol if you're in your 30s like me I was using one from another brand for a while and I loved it and my skin loved it But I haven't really been out doing much recently going shopping or anything like that So I haven't picked up anything. So this came in pure So I'm I'm excited to try it because it's retinol I love retinol and then I ran out with my spf recently, but it's actually the Kiehl's one It's just the other Kiehl's one But this is the new ultra light daily uv defense and it's the spf 50 got to protect our skin What I love about Kiehl's is that I never feel like it's a heavy product on my skin They're shower gels. They feel so clean, but they don't feel like they're stripping your skin of anything I love that. I just looked at the camera and it looks like I'm not wearing anything. I am I have a I have a sweater on so that is it for my kind of august favorites I might do another video kind of my favorites of september because I love september I just I just think it's like the best month when I look outside. I'm just like everything about september I just think is so wonderful. So I'm excited for this month. I'm hopeful But let me know if there's any favorites that you have had maybe over the summer or since the last time that I talked to you I'm sure you have a few favorites or things that you don't like as well only here from you I hope that you are doing good. If you are having a bad day I'm sending lots of love and remember nothing stays bad forever because that's the thing life is always changing Even when we have something good it changes. So if you have something bad, it changes too And that's what I always tell myself. I'm having a bad day. I'm like nothing stays the same forever The world keeps going it keeps turning when something's bad It's not going to stay bad because everything changes all the time. So I'm sending you lots of love if you're having a bad day I'm sending you lots of love if you're having a good day And I hope that you spread that all around and remember to be kind to yourself be kind to others You're doing the best you can and I'll see you in another video


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