It's theCUBE, covering Sapphire Now 2017. Brought to you by SAP Cloud Platform and HANA Enterprise Cloud. Okay, welcome to theCUBE, everyone. We're here for the special exclusive Sapphire Now 2017 coverage from Palo Alto Studio. I'm John Furrier, three days of Sapphire coverage. Our next guest is Jessica Stoffus, who's with Senior Director Database Solutions at EMC. Who came in from here in Palo Alto. You guys have some news down there. Full team down there, I know. Not only we cover SAP, it's our first year we're doing it from our studio, but EMC's always been on theCUBE. You guys had a great relationship with SAP. I think our first year we've done theCUBE in 2010. That's right, yes. We were at SAP Sapphire. You guys were, you were on theCUBE. You've been with us for a while, but the relationship within SAP and EMC, now Dell EMC is pretty significant. What's the big news you guys have going on? Yeah, I mean, it's a huge relationship for us. We've been, even before we were merged with Dell, one of our top partnerships. Now it's even bigger. We've been amazed at how much Dell had been doing with SAP and we're bringing the best of the two companies together right now. So yeah, we have a huge presence at Sapphire, as you mentioned. We saw Michael Dell do a brief speech at the show and I thought that really helped set the stage for not just Dell and EMC with SAP, but even some of the words he said were a good microcosm of Dell and EMC talking about the importance of bringing together people and processes. And we're going through that right now and we're going through how we're going to merge the portfolio to go after cloud, to go after HANA, internet of things, data center transformation, all of those major things. Well certainly SAP, the theme is cloud. Multi-cloud is a big message. SAP Cloud Platform, we had Dan Law on theCUBE. We also interviewed the HANA Enterprise Cloud Group. They're also got a huge alliance with Amazon Web Service Terry Wise there. We also saw CenturyLink. So you start to see the industry formation going on. The fog is lifting, you start to get some clear visibility on swim lanes, tactics, how people are settling in, whatever metaphor you want to use, people are finding it. Dell EMC is just absolutely just a monster now. I mean, I mean that in a good way, I don't mean a bad way, but it's so big. EMC was already very powerful in winning in the storage business. Great enterprise jobs, obviously sales force, the culture, really well, great culture as you know we know them. Dell has been lean and mean like the speedboat. Great with channels, great with operations, very lean and efficient. EMC, the direct selling, you bring them together. Now the supplier relationships have changed. I was talking with your team. Dell brings to the table deep Microsoft Intel relationships. Not that you guys didn't have them, but they have deep relationships. You guys bring deep relationships. How has that new culture, Dell EMC, changed your relationship? And specifically, what's the impact to SAP? Sure, I know, great question. First of all, it's been very complimentary and we felt that going into the merger. I've been at EMC for 21 years, right? So I had worked with Dell 10, 15 years ago and very, very complimentary and you nailed it. They're very good at one segment of the market. Historically, we're very good at another and for the most part, I think it's been a really, really good matching, made sense from a merger perspective. If we think about SAP for a second, one of the first things that we've been bringing together is we have two very complimentary HANA portfolios. So HANA is obviously a huge focus for SAP customers. I was just at Dell EMC World last week and every single customer that I talked to, whether they were running Oracle or Microsoft, they're all asking about HANA. And we had a great focus at EMC with our enterprise HANA systems and at Dell they have very good packaged appliances and scale up bundles and right now we feel like we can address the whole breadth of what people may want to do with HANA, whether it's TDI, scale up, scale out. Very, very strong and HANA fits in because I want you to just take a minute to explain this because it used to be a blanket word, even when they were kind of getting it out early, it was great marketing from the beginning. It has a legacy to it, but as the market changed, HANA changed. And as EMC or SAP changed, they changed some of their positioning, specifically they used to call it HANA Cloud Platform and they have HANA Enterprise Cloud. Now they renamed it to SAP Cloud Platform which is the platform as a service, the cloud native stuff. And then HANA Enterprise Cloud which is really the managed service. Right. So from your perspective, how do you define what HANA is today and where is it settling in? Is it just the core engine of SAP, but how does it relate to all these new things? Yeah, for us it's really a platform. So if we think about where HANA began when we started working with SAP, it was all about analytics, collecting data, analyzing data, making better business decisions. Now with S4 on the horizon and the inevitable cut over to that from all the other enterprise applications of SAP, we really view it as a platform. And it's going to have big implications if we look at our own SAP install base at EMC, there's a lot of customers that run Oracle underneath their SAP apps. So as part of the HANA transformation, we're going to be getting them hopefully on the road to not just take advantage of HANA today but as they go forward, how are they going to get ready for S4 and have hopefully a smooth migration path to that? Obviously their cloud platform, I mean their cloud strategy or cloud direction, I don't know if you can have a cloud strategy as Michael Dell said, clouds like the internet, it's everything. So there's no real strategy, it's just the way life is. They're going to be on-premise and off-premise. And they're clearly targeting multiple clouds unlike SAP Oracle for instance. But neither here nor there. The point is is that on-premise is still going to be a 10 year plus journey, nothing's going to be disappearing overnight. So the on-prem cloud at Dynamic is interesting because they use the word mission critical. That was a big buzzword with when I talked to Michael Dell, he banged home mission critical. A lot of the themes that Dell EMC world last week was around mission critical workloads and choice. Yes. So you guys have that same mojo going on with SAP. How is that translating for you guys? Sure. For their new business and new opportunity. Yeah, great question. So one of the big things that we've acquired and focused on in the SAP space is VirtuaStream. So they've been a really big off-premise cloud provider for us but at the same time, when you look at what we've been building for ADMC and before that, we had our own enterprise hybrid cloud offering. One of the things that we're talking about this week at Sapphire is actually bringing those two together so we can have people have an off-premise and an on-premise experience, a single view of their data, a uniform way to manage SAP in the cloud. And to the point of mission critical, like you said, as much as we've seen people moving to the cloud, there are still people that want to have for certain production systems, they want to control that. They don't want to give it off to the cloud yet. They may not want to control the hardware but they certainly want to control the data. And with this new relationship that we're blending in, the EHC and VirtuaStream, we can actually allow them to have that choice to your point. What's the EHC? The EMC Enterprise Hybrid Cloud. So that's our own self-service automation software framework that we put around the cloud. Which cloud, your cloud or other people's cloud? It's right now, it's our cloud offering. So you have a public cloud? We have a cloud offering that's a hybrid cloud offering. Yeah, that you can deploy on-premise or off-premise and VirtuaStream has been historically used off-premise. So you use VirtuaStream as your off-premise component of that piece? Correct, and we had to bring the two together and that's been a big new step for us. So in that regard, we think it's very, very complimentary for SAP, that's one option we provide, right? We also work through SAP's own offerings to make sure we give them the right and the best infrastructure behind what they're trying to do with their own cloud. I was at a large partner of ours recently, OpenText, and we were talking about content archiving and all the things that they do there. And they're very deep in the SAP cloud, so we're working with them to start to potentially build the right archiving and capabilities behind that. So what's the big news for SAP this year? Obviously we saw the coverage, we had some folks calling in and we had some folks down on the floor giving us some input. But from an SAP EMC, now Dell EMC relationship, what's the big news?  What are you leading with? What's the announcements can be specific? Yeah, the big news is they're all around the cloud. They're bringing together of the On-Premise and Off-Premise EMC Enterprise Hybrid Cloud Virtual Stream, giving them that uniform way to consume SAP in a cloud-based model, whether it be On-Premise or Off-Premise, that is absolutely our biggest new highlight. Did you guys release, was it news, hard news that went out for you guys? Or what was the story? Yeah, it was part of an EHC evolution story that we brought out. The other things that we have that are not necessarily formally announced, but are more things that help the day-to-day administration of SAP applications. We often forget about that. We're pushing people to the cloud and we're all talking about the cloud. So there's no big splash in the pool. Hey, we're releasing a new VX rail version of whatever. Correct, yeah, there's no news. Momentum specific. Correct. Okay, what are the big momentum to your point? I mean, you can look back now. You've seen a lot of the evolution we've seen, the relationship with SAP Grow, we've seen the converged infrastructure movement now going to a whole other level. Hybrid cloud and converged infrastructure is happening. Yeah. What's the new wave that you guys are riding with SAP together besides the cloud? It's generically the cloud. What specifically? Yeah, I think. The customer pain point that you guys are selling. I think you just touched upon it. It's the whole build versus buy model. So historically, if you look at where the SAP customers spend the most of their money, it's the OPEX. It's the operational expense of administering and maintaining the SAP landscapes. And through down. You mean like total cost of ownership stuff? I mean like. Using some of the pain between deployment and cost. Workflow automation, copy clone refresh, backup recovery, performance automation, disaster recovery. All the things that you got to do to keep the SAP applications generating value to the business is heavy operational cost to them. That holds them back from doing innovation and investments.  Yeah, we've done some great studies with you guys on this. And one of the things that there's different ways to go about tackling that. One of the ways that we believe is good is to simplify what you can. And so one way to do that is, well, from an infrastructure perspective, you should have the ability to basically buy the infrastructure as an outcome, not have to build all the components and put it together. All the provisioning pain that goes with it. Yeah, and so when we were just EMC, we had one choice. We had what was called a VBlock, right? And then we built VX racks and VX rails. VBlock was so successful, really was. Yeah. We had a good job with that. From SAP. Now that we're Dell though, we have the PowerEdge family and we've been bringing that into not only racks and rails but looking at that in terms of building what we call ready bundles where we can actually deliver as a single. I think about that's ready solution because the thing that got me at EMC world was two things. The purpose built mission continues. I mean that in a good way. And two, the disruption of data protection and backup and with the cloud. The cloud is a new disruptor. Right. For some reason, backup and recoveries completely different in the cloud than it is on-prem. So we've seen a lot of action in there too. Those are the two ready areas and then also dynamic changes going on with backup and recovery. Yeah, ready systems, ready solutions was a huge thing. And this was part of the merger. We rebranded our solutions organizations into one. And so our whole, as the name implies, the whole goal is to deliver a ready infrastructure to the customer that they can just deploy so they can focus on their applications and their business and not worry about the server, the network, the storage. Which ones do I put together, for what reason? We want to give them that menu of choice whether it's a single node, a bundle of components or an actual system and deploy that in any way they want. Okay, what can we expect from Dell EMC, from your team vis-a-vis with respect to SAP? Next couple months, next year, what's the plans? What's the continued momentum playbook? Yeah, so some things that you'll be seeing more of if you go to the, there's a Dell Blueprints page where we have all of our solutions. You'll be seeing some new and refreshed offerings around HANA. You'll be seeing some new things around SAP landscapes and you'll be seeing much more, I think, formal communication around the cloud offering I talked about. Got it, yeah, and cloud seems to be, again, cloud is taking it outside the four walls, which is different. I mean, great capabilities, people going analytics, putting a lot of analytics in the clouds. You're seeing that being the first wave beyond dev tests. So dev tests, even though Oracle says dev test is really going to be around for a long, long time, people are already moving to analytics in the cloud. That's interesting, instrumenting for backup and recovery, what's possible. Quick thoughts on the changes there and the landscape between the old way of thinking about backup and recovery. And by the way, you guys have some of the best solutions out there, that whole data domain, stretch record, just a history, but now it goes to the cloud. Yeah, yeah. What's the tricky parts that you guys are watching? I think, yeah, on the one hand, I think there'll be people that want to worry about their mission critical and we, like you said, we have integrated offerings to the workload. So you can have a backup team handle it or you can have your workload team handle it. It's really up to you. As people go into the cloud, I think they have to decide what's the tiering strategy they want to approach to that, what's the retention data strategies that they need, and how is that going? Where the hell's the data going? Where is the data going? Yeah, I mean. Is it safe and secure? And how does that relate to how they're protecting their on-premise data? So, I mean, from our perspective, and back to the SAP example of where we have this uniform cloud approach, we have the backup capabilities built into that, whether it's long-term data retention, short-term backup and recovery, and yeah. So question for you. This is a test with a real-time CUBE test. Sure, you'll pass with flying colors. What are the biggest two waves that customers should be surfing in the enterprise? Two most important waves. I think one of them we've already talked about, which is certainly cloud. I think if you look at the whole digital transformation, which I know is related to cloud, but the whole digital transformation wave, I think is separate than that. So if you look at big data and analytics and machine data, every customer, whether it's a traditional, you know, RDBMS environment or what have you, they're all looking at how to harness that data. And I think when you get into that and look at all the data in your data center that you may not be using today, you may not have been trying to take advantage of with technologies like Splunk and other things that are out there to help you do that. That's a great thing to look at. We're seeing heavy transformation. So data, basically, cloud and data, the two big waves. Yeah, digital transformation and data, and taking advantage of that data. Well, there go hand in hand, because you get the scale with the cloud for compute and other things. Data drives digital, just digital is data. Digital assets are data, right? So everything's data. Yes, yeah. At the end of the day. So you would agree, cloud and data, two big waves. Yes. All right. Jason, thanks so much for coming on the CUBE. Anytime. And final comment, I'll give you the last word on SAP Sapphire. I know you've got a relationship, so you've probably got to be like, oh yeah, SAP, everything's great. Be straight. What's going on with SAP? What's the outlook for SAP from your perspective? I think there's a great opportunity to your point. There's also a good challenge because we're going through a merger. And I think we're making great progress to bring the two portfolios together. And SAP is being a great partner, helping, working with us. And you're cool with them now. You guys feel good about SAP. We feel great about them. We use them in our own environment. And, Dal, as Michael talked about, to run our own business. So it's a great relationship. And McDermott's been on remote telecast for former EMC world, so. Yeah. As you know, these partnerships in the industry go up and down, right? We talked a little bit about Oracle and over the years, that's fluctuated. I was dating myself the other day on a CUBE gig and I said, oh, it's a Barney deal, which in my language was no real deal because Barney was a character that kids watched, my kids watch. I love you. You love me. I'm not a fest but nothing happens. Right, right. It's called the Barney deals. But I need a new meme now because most of the people in the industry don't know who Barney is. Oh, I remember this. We used to joke about him when I was in Alliance as we called them Barney meetings. We'd have a good meeting with a partner, you'd all talk, and nothing would happen, right? So, yeah. You guys do not have a Barney deal with SAP. It's pretty deep across the board. Correct. And SAP has good relationships, I gotta say. They tend to do really, really good. They're either in or they're not, and it's pretty obvious. Right. Thank you, Jason, so much. Yeah, thank you. Who's with Senior Director of the Database Solutions Group with Dell EMC, joining us for our special three day coverage of Sapphire Now from our studio. Great week. We had Informatica, World in San Francisco, Google IAO going on today as well. We got live coverage today with Rob Hove, and I'll see Veeam on. It's in New Orleans, Dave Vellante's there, and I'm in SAP separate. A lot of coverage, four events for the queue. Stay with us for more live coverage after this short break.


And a proposal to pursue a potential 15 field sports, sportsplex, let me say that again, sportsplex. That's a new word. Tony, you put in these things. Yes, we're coining terms now. In North St. John's County, it just got a green light this week from the County Commissioner. Jack's USL has proposed a public-private partnership with St. John's County as it seeks to bring a professional United Soccer League franchise to Northeast Florida. And my good friend who I've not seen it forever, Tony Allegretti of Jack's USL is here now with the details. Tony, my man. Yes, sir. How you been? I've been awesome, man. And you have too.  I don't know about that. We are so fortunate to have you back in Jack's for some amount of time. And so really, really blessed to see you again. So happy about that. Dear listener, before he came on, I slipped him a hundred dollar bill. So sportsplex, explain what it is. So we've been working for a couple of years, actually, with St. John's County. And we have been working on a public-private partnership to bring more fields. There's unmet demand for recreation space and soccer space, but all kinds of sports spaces for kids right now. And it's an acute need in St. John's County, especially North St. John's. And so the idea was to come up with a way that we could have a training facility for our men's and women's pro soccer team, which we hope can kick off in late 25 or early 26. And that would give us a training grounds, but also create some soccer fields for our youth in the area to grow up and play. And eventually, right now, if you're really good at soccer, which we have a tremendous amount of very good young kids playing, you got to move if you want to play pro. And so we're we're hoping to fix that. And this is a good step in the right direction. It was a unanimous vote from the St. John's County commissioners who we loved and we love working with. But it's really just to pursue the deal. So we've got there's some there's some milestones that we have to to do. But now we've gotten the approval for them to for the staff in St. John's County to help us and to work on it and, you know, do all the development stuff. Yeah. So tell me about the economic impact. Yeah. So the economic impact is really tremendous. And it's mostly around soccer tournaments. So if you're a lot of parents are probably not in their head right now, they've got to go to travel soccer, travel baseball or travel, you know, sports. And we don't have a lot of facilities like that. So we do have good tournaments here in Jacksonville in the area. But the big ones, the big regional tournaments that have regional impact are driving right past Jacksonville to go to Atlanta or Orlando. This allows us to do a lot of tournaments. The the early numbers on economic impact is about 150 million over 10 years. So it's 15 to 20 million. Those numbers are probably improving now. And it's about 13, 1400 jobs. So and that's over 10 years, too. So it's about 140, 150 jobs, too, that it will create. Yeah, I was just about to ask, so what's the whole timeline on this? Yeah. So if everything happens in a perfect world, this facility can open sometime in 2025. And that would be really fortunate for a lot of different reasons. But it would allow us to to get some on the field on the field work with our technical side, which is the soccer side at while we work on the stadium and the actual showcase place. This is not the stadium site that we're also working on in parallel. So I think of you as Jacksonville's soccer ambassador. And I know nothing, nothing at all about soccer. I know the shotgun owns the team. And so with the team that you're bringing here, would that be in the same league? Like, how does that work? No, no, that great question. Shad's team is in the sort of biggest, most famous league. That's that's the the Premier League in the UK. His his team is doing great. In fact, their mid table, which is really kind of good for. It's it's not a huge club, but it's it's outperforming. Jacksonville hasn't had a pro soccer team since the Armada has gone to NPSL. They're playing really well. The Armada still a thing. We're really hopeful. And I know all the Armada fans are really hopeful that they'll come back in a in a pro capacity. And we feel like they will the the soccer market and all the research that they've done and that we've done really shows that there's enough soccer fans, there's like 300,000 soccer fans in our market. And so thank you for, you know, thinking of me as an ambassador to that. But I'm just one, you know, real zealot for it. I'm just calling you the ambassador because I want to go to the game. Yeah, of course. I want tickets, man. Yeah, we'll be behind the goal for sure. All right, Tony Allegretti, my friend and the soccer ambassador. I'm like, I'm literally giving you that title. The soccer ambassador of Jacksonville. Thank you so much for coming in and talking to me. Appreciate you, Al.


Are you someone that's been using Linux for just a few weeks, maybe a few months, maybe a year or two? If you are, you've probably never really considered that the Linux distribution that you're currently using, maybe you currently love the Linux distribution you're currently using, have you considered the fact that that Linux distribution probably won't exist in five, 10, 20 years? The Linux distribution you're on will probably one day die, and I think a lot of especially newer to Linux users have never considered this, as somebody that's used Linux primarily for the last 15 years or so on my PCs, I've seen dozens of these Linux distributions crop up, become very popular in some cases, and then overnight disappear, and sometimes leaving the communities that they built kind of in a lurch where you've got all these people that were using this distribution and overnight they have to figure out where to go next. And today's video is going to be a little bit of a nostalgic video because the topic for this video is I'm going to do my top five Linux distributions that are now dead. These are discontinued distributions that were once very popular. These five Linux distributions I'm going to talk about too. The reason I chose them is not just because they were popular, it's because they were unique. They did something very different than other Linux distributions at the time. That was part of the reason why they rose in popularity. And then overnight they were gone. So this is my top five dead Linux distributions. And the first in my top five dead Linux distribution list is going to be Crunch Bang Linux. And I'm not ranking these in any particular order, but I wanted to start with Crunch Bang because Crunch Bang was one of my favorite Linux distributions that ever existed. Crunch Bang was Debian stable with the open box window manager and had a really cool customized open box with a tent tube panel and some conches. And in the right click menu for open box, you had all of these custom dynamic menu scripts that you can script with open box where the right click menu can dynamically display information like your most recent files that you've used or web information. I remember they used to have like latest form posts from the Crunch Bang forms that would populate the right click open box menu. And it was just really cool. It was really unique and it was one of the most customized Linux desktops at the time. And this distribution has now been dead for about 10 years or so. The last release was May of 2013. And again, it was such a popular distribution. The website still exists. And this was one of those distributions that really caused a very large community, a lot of heartache because it's like overnight. The person that was maintaining it, the person in charge decided he was done. Boom, it's dead, right? And so you've got all of these thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people I don't know what their numbers were that were using Crunch Bang Linux. And then they had to go somewhere where the great thing with free and open source software is free and open source software doesn't necessarily die. You know, it can never die as long as there's at least one person willing to still take that piece of free and open source software and make it continue. And Crunch Bang because it had a very large community around it.  There were like three or four forks of Crunch Bang that sprang up almost immediately. Two of them still exist. You have Crunch Bang plus plus and you have Bunsen Labs. And they are essentially continuations of the old Crunch Bang project. So Debbie and Stable with open box with all the custom Crunch Bang scripts and everything. I've done videos on both Crunch Bang plus plus and Bunsen Labs in the past. So check those out. So Crunch Bang was a very influential Linux distribution because obviously I've already mentioned all the forks of Crunch Bang, all the Debbie and forks of Crunch Bang. But also a lot of arch based distributions that sprung up in recent years because arches really become popular, I'd say, especially in the last five or six years. But I remember one of the very first arch based distributions that kind of made Arch installable through a easy install, right? Was Arch Bang. Arch Bang was essentially Crunch Bang in Arch form. And then you've got projects like Maybox, which is Manjaro with open box. And it's got a lot of the same kind of customized scripts. And it's got the same kind of look and feel as Crunch Bang. But again, it's based on Manjaro. So you've got several of these open box distributions that are with us. There's probably like 10 or 12 of these things, these open box Linux distributions that really kind of mimic Crunch Bang. And some way they are a continuation of what Crunch Bang started many years ago. The next Linux distribution I want to talk about is Damn Small Linux.  So the last release of it was again, very similar to Crunch Bang. It was August 2012 was the last release of Damn Small Linux. What was DSL Linux as it was commonly referred to as the acronym, right? So DSL Linux was a 50 megabyte sized ISO.  It was very stripped down. It was designed to run in RAM. So you didn't even have to install it. People typically ran DSL Linux off of a CD at the time. That was back when CDs were very popular to run operating systems on. And unfortunately, Damn Small Linux for whatever reason just disappeared one day. Kind of like Crunch Bang Linux, they still have a website that's up. It's never been updated since the death of it. But you can go back just for nostalgia sake and read a little bit of the website. Now Damn Small Linux, we do have other similar projects.  That's another thing DSL Linux was a 32 bit. So that was nice. This is something we don't have a lot of, especially now for those of you that still have 32 bit computers, you know, that's getting increasingly more difficult to find a 32 bit distro. Puppy Linux though is still around. Tiny Core Linux is still around. So basically they're just doing the same kinds of ideas trying to have a really minimal distribution that can be run on a live USB or even optical disks for those of you that still have an optical drive. Now like Crunch Bang, Damn Small Linux was also a Debian based Linux distribution. Actually, it was based on Debian and the old Nopix distribution, which is another dead distribution that honestly I probably should have made a mention of yet honorable mention in the list. Matter of fact, when we talked about ArchBang a minute ago, I thought ArchBang is another one that I don't know if they've had a release in years. I haven't heard about it in a long time. If it's dead, it's another one that probably does need a mention. Now the third Linux distribution that has long been dead that I think deserves a mention on my top five dead Linux distribution list, of course, is Hannah Montana Linux. Now for those of you that were alive like 10, 12 years ago, this came out I believe in 2009. So it's about 13 years ago. Now Hannah Montana, that particular TV show that starred Miley Cyrus was extremely popular. So obviously you had fans of the show that wanted to create Hannah Montana themed Linux. And what they chose was to base this off of Kubuntu 904. That's right, Kubuntu. Kubuntu 904, 904 was not an LTS release of Ubuntu, so it only had support for nine months. So the repositories for this thing have long been dead. I mean, it was pretty much within a year of its release. So this distribution was already dead. The repositories no longer worked. Another interesting thing with Hannah Montana Linux being based off Kubuntu 904 back in 2009, that was the very, very early days of KDE4. KDE4 was a complete train wreck. It was an absolute nightmare. It was slow. It was bloated. It was extremely buggy. The version of KDE that Hannah Montana Linux ship with was KDE4 .02, I believe, which is like the second release of KDE4. And it was just so bad. And for those of you that want to take a look at Hannah Montana, you can still go download the ISOs. Of course, again, the repos don't work. But if you just want to spin it up in a live environment and get your Hannah Montana wallpaper and especially if you want to take a look at just how bad KDE4 was compared to modern day KDE5 Plasma, you know, go check out Hannah Montana Linux. Number four on my list of now dead Linux distributions has to be the Ubuntu Satanic Edition. So Ubuntu comes in a lot of flavors. I don't know how many official flavors they have these days, probably like seven, eight, maybe nine official flavors. In years past, they had other additions as well. I remember you had MythBuntu, you had Edubuntu, which I don't think either one of those exist. You had the Ubuntu Satanic Edition. I think you also had an Ubuntu Christian Edition. I'm pretty sure somebody's, it was probably not an official flavor, neither was the Satanic Edition, but there was an Ubuntu Muslim Edition, I believe. I could be wrong on some of that, but you had a lot of these community respins of Ubuntu and one of the more unique ones, because again, these are not just dead distributions, but they're very unique, each one of these. And it doesn't get more unique than having Ubuntu Satanic Edition, which was basically trying to be a combination of of course, free software on an Ubuntu base, but with a metal music kind of theme to it, because so much metal music, modern metal music has kind of a Satanic theme, Satanic overtones. And that was kind of the idea behind this. It had a lot of kind of dark imagery as far as wallpapers and theming, you know? It was kind of, it looked like, you know, like a rebellious teenager made a Linux distribution, right? It was just, again, it was kind of weird. It was kind of kooky and kind of like, you know, things like Hannah Montana is kind of weird and kooky. It didn't last long, you know, it's one of those things that sprang up and was popular for a very brief amount of time. It got a lot of press and then, you know, eventually whoever created it probably grew up a little bit, you know, they just no longer had time to develop this. So unfortunately, this has been dead for seven or eight years. You can see this was posted here in 2015, the last release of Ubuntu Satanic Edition, November 15th of 2012, actually, so it's been dead 10 years. Well, 2012, 2013, it seems like it's when all of these Linux distributions died except for Hannah Montana, which was pretty much dead on release in 2009. So these were all within the first, I would say, three or four years that I used Linux. That's probably why I find these so nostalgic is because, you know, when you're kind of new to something, because I would have still been fairly new to Linux in the first three or four years of me using it. That's probably why I gravitate to some of these so much. The next one I wanna talk about, number five on my top five Linux distributions that are now dead is Cynarch, which many people, most of you guys have probably never heard of Cynarch because it's been dead for many, many years. Actually, it was forked twice. Cynarch, many people don't know this. It was, of course, Arch with the Cinnamon desktop. When it was created, it was kinda early days for Cinnamon. Cinnamon was created by the Linux Mint team because GNOME 3 was so bad, nobody wanted to move from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3, which was a complete train wreck. So the Linux Mint team, they created Cinnamon. Cinnamon kinda only worked on Linux Mint in the early days, it wasn't, there was no like Arch spins with the Cinnamon desktop environment. So people wanted that Linux Mint Cinnamon desktop experience on Arch, so somebody created Cynarch. And it actually gained a pretty good sizeable popularity, like it was kinda high on the distro watch list back in the day, people talked about it. It was a popular Linux distribution. Eventually, they renamed it because they started offering more desktop environments and window managers other than just Cinnamon. So Cynarch actually eventually was rebranded and renamed to Entergos. You guys remember Entergos or Entergos? Who knows how to actually pronounce this thing right? But then, it lived on as Entergos. And Entergos was a very popular Linux distribution with a unique installer. It was a live installer, pulled things down directly from the internet. So you always had the latest up-to-date packages and you can pick and choose what desktop environments or window managers, tiling window managers you wanted to use. So Entergos was really neat.  And it was kind of a shock to the community, very similar to what CrunchBang did back in the day. Overnight, Entergos was gone. But kinda like the community, this had such a large community behind it, kinda like CrunchBang had all the forks that sprung up. Entergos also had a few forks that sprung up, the most popular being Endeavor OS. So really, Cynarch slash Entergos, even though they are dead, it does live on now as Endeavor OS because again, free and open source software never really dies. So that's just a little bit of me walking you through a little bit of the past. Some of the fine memories I have of long-gone Linux distributions that I wish were still around. Again, these particular distributions were again, very unique. They served a real-world purpose. I think that's why I also like them is because so many distributions kinda all do the same thing. Where the five distributions that I highlighted today were really kinda doing something that nobody else was doing at the time. And I like that. I like when people travel a different path than what everybody else is going. Now before I go, I need to thank a few special people. I need to thank Brian Gabe James Mett, Maxim Mimit, Mitchell Paul, Royal West. I'm your bald homie, Alex Armoredragon. Chuck Commander Rangary, Diokai George. Lee Marstrom, Methos, Nate Erion, Alexander Paul. Peace, Archon Fodor, Polytech Realities for Less Red Prophet, Roland Steven, Tulsa Devler, and Willie. These guys. 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