Hi everybody, welcome for this new Jenkins infrastructure meeting. And today we have quite a few topics and we also have Victor who joined to do a small demo. But first let's look at a few announcements that we have. The first thing is we just noticed issues with the Windows package for the latest weekly release to the 294. For some reason we can't start the container that package Windows. So that really is a big delay, but otherwise packages are available for the other distribution as they be on Red Hat and Zeus. The second thing that I want to announce is we now have access to a discourse account. That service is available on community.jnk.io. At the moment we don't want to open it for everybody, so it's still in the beta modes. We are looking for people who can help us to configure it. So we would like to use that service to help and organize questions around Jenkins. So the first focus will be about the Jenkins user community and then we'll open it to a broader group of people. So if you're interested to help, just drop me a message with your Gmail account and you'll have an invite. And finally the third major issue that I want to share. We've been a little bit behind with this one. So we noticed last week that puppet certificate expired a few months ago. And so while we fixed the puppet master and few puppet agents, we now have to go back on every machine to be sure that puppet is in sync. We'll have a little bit more, we'll have more time in the coming weeks to fix that. So let's start with the first topic. So since we have Victor who joined us today to present how we can help with the open telemetry plugin or on Jenkins instances, I'm going to switch this topic at the first one. So based on discussion we had with Victor and other people at Elastic, so Victor has been working on the open telemetry plugin and so ways to visualize information. So in this case, it's not about monitoring Jenkins to know if Jenkins is working or not, but it's more how we can collect information and visualize those information to detect wrong behaviors. Maybe Victor, you want to share a little bit here. Sure. I'm going to share the screen first. Yeah, let me share the, let me stop sharing. So while you prepare the sharing, our objective is to use CI to Jenkins.io as a way to test this. Yeah. Can you share? Awesome. Here we are. Right. The very first thing I would like to introduce is the plugin is already available in the NKCI or has been released a few versions already. We are in the 0.x branch at the moment, so it's not yet 1.0 for the, basically, we need to standardize all the name prevention to be sure they can be used, won't change in the future. For such, we need to engage with different communities, you know, with telemetry spectrum and also in the continuous delivery foundation. So a little bit of context, the idea of this plugin is to enable distributed traces for every single build that happens in Jenkins. So it supports different type of jobs, freestyle pipelines, though the more information you gather is, will be always in the pipelines. So we just decided to focus more in the pipelines itself. And the point is for every single build, there will be a particular transaction if created as an APM distributed trace. So this particular plugin is completely agnostic. It does support different vendors because it uses open telemetry, it's becoming more like a standard from anything related with logs, metrics and traces. So that's why we choose the lead to use open telemetry to be completely vendor agnostic. So from the architecture point of view, you can plug to this plugin for any kind of backend. So the supported ones at the moment is any, but you can customize as you wish. But let's say you can plug to Jager, Promocers, Elasticsearch and the visualization as well. You can find which one to be in Grafana, it could be as one in Kibana as well. The idea is you install the plugin and then start collecting data such as every issue we trace for every build and metrics as well. Logs will become shorter than later. So I'll leave it more context. All the information we are gathering from the transaction point of view, from the build point of view, is the name of the job, the type of the job, whether it's a multi-branch type, how long it took. Any description, the build number, you know, traditional data that normally is in the metal of every build for the spans are normally related to you do a key checkout in a pipeline or you do a shell step. So every single built in step either provided by the core of Jenkins or any plugin that you use is going to be basically report as a span with all the details such as what is the plugin version, what is the name of the plugin that supports that particular step, the name of the step. If you use any label such as for shell steps or batch or power shell, they will be populated as well. Anything related with a checkout of the source control such as the deep ripple name of the branch, the user, these sort of things will be also information as a few views. And there are other things such as metrics, the number of builds, the number of failures, how big is the queue, how many items have been left, the queue, the disk space, related to the garbage collector and system CPU as well. So it has been added recently. So a little bit more of context as well. The only thing that you need to do to install this plugin is basically either you use G-Cas or using the UBIT interface which basically just specify the entry point. What is the credential that you need to use from the UI point of view which is the dashboard that you would like to use. And now a couple of examples how it looks like from the user interface. For every single build there will be always a link. You can see in this particular pinkie box with the link. This is customized. So you have your own ad-hoc. You won't see any reference to elastic as this is just an example. You can even customize this particular description. Then it will directly link to the distributed train. So this is probably the most dummy example of running a build. You just check out a source code called runmoven for building and packaging. So what happens is the entire transaction, this is the name, it took 10 seconds and then for every stage and every step you will start seeing spawns. So how long did it take to provision a machine? In this case just less than a second because it was a local machine. The time they took to check out the source code took one second. The time to build and package from scratch took four or five seconds and then these purely are eco. This visualization is specific for Laxity. You have different ones for Jaeger and Zipkin. All of them because it's open telemetry based. But yeah, so everything related with open telemetry is here. Feel free to ask any question. Anything about what is the roadmap or what are the things that we are planning to do. It's also in the discussion on any issues, but in the project you can see what are the different topics. We are interested to move further, which are the ones that we are postponing. So yeah, so it's public and you can access anyway. So a little bit more context. About distributed traces probably is more used for any application. So you have to monitor in real production environment, every transaction or everything that interacts with any microservices or third-party services. People use these particular distributed traces. So we thought we could apply the same for Jenkins. More specifically to troubleshoot and analyze how to analyze when something goes bad in the related with the CI ecosystem. So if I want to give you a demo, we already have a couple of Jenkins instances. The one I would like to show you probably is the one related to our production instance at the moment. So this is one of the instances that is probably accessible anyway. It's simply related to the ATM presently in the elastic organization. I'm going to log in and then from there I don't want to go deeper in details. I'm going to click a couple of folders to show you one of probably other projects that I'm more interested to show you because it's a real live demo. Please bear with me as well. So this is a multi-job project. So this is the serve library. We have an install again probably accessible. So in this case, as I mentioned earlier, there is a link. The link is here and we can click on that. How we can visualize the latest build from the distributed traces, how it looks like. So I'm going to open that one. Meanwhile, I'm going to go back to the previous tab and I'm going to open and build one of them, probably the previous one, like just finished. And I want to see how is the blue ocean for you. And then you get more like one-to-one how it looks from the blue ocean, how it looks from the distributed traces. So this is quite linear.  But in theory, it's more like what basically is a Ruby Java project like just sequence of running. Every, every, from the blue ocean, every step that you see here most likely a step in the pipeline that does something specifically. This is a print. This is validating if the machine is a Linux or not. Then loading a file and blah, blah, blah, right. So it's quite precisely. Well, it's quite accurate what it does every single step. So in the UI from the blue ocean, we see this. How does it look like in the APNB security traces? So this is one of the environments we have. So in this case, the certain granularity because obviously the UI view here is more collapse compared to this one. Even though we can collapse, you can just focus on the different stages. And then we can move forward. Probably would be easy. So in this case, what we have here is the entire view of a distributed trace. And this is a transaction. So this particular bill or job was executed. So you can see here certain metadata. Such as what's the name of the pipeline. I'm going to zoom a little bit more. What's whether it's a multi-branch type. On other things, the time it took, the URL. So this is the information regarding the transaction. Then for every single stage, we are going to see the same. We have the checkout, which is the default from the SCM, sort of from the clarity pipeline. The different specific one we have is the checkout, the check license. So you can see like this stage here are the one you can click back the idea. So those are spans.  We already have a slip, but that's something specific for us anyway. But what is important here is from checkout, we can visualize for the detail, what is the request story, what is the branch, what is the protocol that has been used, if it's a necessary or not. So these are standard attributes we are using. Others need to be standardized and that's what I meant earlier. So every single step that happens in the pipeline is a span. And there are meta spans to check out the stages, which are meta spans. The similar for how long it took to provision a machine. For this one is an ephemeral one and it took almost two minutes since the request of the worker was asked by the pipeline. So this is the idea.  We don't see any failures in this case and everything works out of the box, but then you can go deeper to any metadata or any logs regarding the build or the machines that has been used. This is not yet integrated much, that's in the future it will be. Other things that are important is how you can visualize metrics, how you can visualize what's going on in your CI. So there are a couple of dashboards that give you a sense of the healthy of your system and all of them are based on distributed traces rather than metrics. At the moment, all the metrics we gather from the plugin are not used much, but probably those are not the services that I want to show. I want to go back to the open telemetry and I want back to the dashboard. So there are a couple of them. I'm going to click on the provisioner and I'm going to click on the CI. So provisioner is about the build queue, how many machine has been provisioned, how long that you took, how much time you spent. So it's trying to, for every time you run a pipeline and there is a no request, you will see an entity and that's the idea. Gathering details from these particular transaction spots and show these details. So in this case, in the last 15 minutes has been requested at once at this particular peak, 11 workers, and then we can see the number of jobs that are queuing at the moment. So those are informational DPO sets of course going on. If we move to the traditional dashboards that probably you made with all the kind of tools, so we have a similar one where we monitor the queue, we monitor the status of the jobs, how they look like. This is in the last 15 minutes, the number of workers that has been requested, the number of agents that are alive at that particular time, all the things that are more precisely on the pipeline, the number of steps, how often they are called, the time it takes, the duration is in nanoseconds or milliseconds. And what is the top 10 of jobs that has been queued, the number of steps that are queued per minute. If we have any failures, we will see here as well. Failures such as there was our traditional Java stack trades, there is a connection issue. So this is some of the dashboards that are already public as well, we will be happy to show you that as you wish. So there is a lot of room here to do. We are in the transition of using this in our production instances, working with the community to help them to use this and gallery use cases or value a scenario that are important to show a lot of things here. We are trying to prioritize this, mostly this is how it looks at the moment. I don't know if you have any more accurate questions that you want me to answer, but in a brief summary, this is probably the demo I want to give. I don't listen to you for the moment. You have a sound issue again. I'm muted, I was muted, sorry. Thanks Victor for the demo, that's really impressive. What is interesting here is why monitoring Jenkins is pretty easy. I mean, you know if Jenkins is running or it is not, but really having information about how it behaves, if it can provision nodes, how long it takes to provision nodes, which protocol is used and so on. That would be really interesting, especially on CI, the Jenkins.io, because we regularly switch between cloud environment. We use different, I mean, we regularly test latest plugin and so on. So that would definitely benefit to the Jenkins community. So I'm really excited to see this. So another interesting, I think, area that we could work is to identify what are the different scenarios. Because I'm sure other people have other questions as well. And so if we can build generic dashboards that people can get inspired, that would be really nice to drive. So I think what we could try is to, let's say, focus once a month, something like that to report a little bit of the improvement we did here and the kind of question that we were able to answer. That would be really nice. Another thing, I don't think you're using the plugin metrics, the metric plugin. So by saving? So I don't think that you're relying on the metric, the plugin metric. No, no, not at all. So this particular information we are gathering is purely in the open telemetry spectrum. So all the information we are gathering and all the SDKs we are using to create these distributed traces is purely open telemetry. So all the information I mentioned about the Java virtual machine, garbage collector and so on, is not used in the metrics, but is used in the open telemetry that provides this kind of a whole coming over flag. But again, this is pretty much new. We just merged the PR a couple of minutes ago. Yeah, this is a really nice project and I'm really excited to work on that. So thanks, Victor, for that demo. Any question? No. So lucky for you, it was recorded. Yeah, I missed something, but I have a few good news from the CDF lens. So when you finish the management, you can discuss these topics at any time. Okay. So then I propose to quickly move on discourse. So I sent an email this morning to collect feedback. So as I said, we deployed so the company behind discourse offered the project to sponsor with the business here. So we have access to quite a lot of things. The service is available on community. The Jenkins radio at the moment it only work on invite me as we want to better understand the tool. So if you're interested to participate, feel free to reach out. So for me, the main question that I have to solve in the coming days is how we authenticate with that tool. Do we only rely on GitHub SSO? The benefit that I have about using GitHub SSO is we don't rely on the third service and everybody who contributed Jenkins already has a GitHub account. And the other question is, how do we also allow people to use their Jenkins account to connect on discourse because it's also not a possibility? Well, I commented in the middle increased, but actually my proposal would be to focus on the Linux foundation SSO if possible. Because we definitely don't want to keep our old app for long term as we discussed in previous meetings. So we want to have it, but not for every Jenkins user and ones who use Github, etc. But for people who don't need permissions to core systems. So for me, my preference would be to not use GitHub directly, but to use Linux foundation because in this case, you'd better also support for Gmail, G Suite accounts, none of these. Not everyone who would be using this code would have a GitHub account. Well, I think it's not to be able to create that unless you're based in a country where you cannot use a GitHub account. For example, if you're based in Crimea, Iran, etc., where Iran is no longer concerned, but having a foundation level account would be nice. Yeah, that's a good point here that you mentioned Jenkins user and not Jenkins developers. Yeah. So again, it's preference. I have no idea about technical feasibility. And the guest Andrew Guggenberg will eventually comment on that thread. I'll see whether I'm completely nuts or not. But yeah. So last time we had a discussion about using Linux foundation authentication system that was okay. I'm not sure if we have access to the groups, but those are technical implementation that I have to see with Andrew. Yeah, I guess our point is that we don't really want to use Jenkins sold out for new systems and services we deploy. Okay. So we kind of have an agreement that we'll try to avoid Jenkins accounts. Okay. Thank you. And the other, I mean, I would like to clarify is when do we consider that the discourse instance is really to be used broadly? What would be the acceptance criteria for this? I think we need some more group of champions who would drive the adoption and this group is already forming in the developer manifest from what I can tell. Okay. Then, yeah, once this thinks that you want everything to be more related, there can be just a proposal that Jenkins governance might include developer manifest that let's make it official. Then we just have like common process. So if there is a consensus, you hold for that, okay, it's official. I wouldn't really want to invent a bill there. So it might be there, but if you want to write a specification for that. But yeah, I think the main point for us is to just evaluate the system and see whether it fits our needs. Sounds we have an agreement there. That's perfect. So we cover all the point that I have regarding discourse. So I propose to move to the next topic that I'd like one to bring here. CDF news. Oh, okay. So one of the CDF news that they have brought up a question about transfer and KWS account. So generally, there is no concern from the technical oversight committee from tracing. Tracy is supportive about that. Tracy, you can like search, explore what would it take? Because we know that Spinnaker already has a AWS account, but if you are Spinnaker account and Jenkins account, you will be in the same situation like Colby's and Jenkins account in principle, in terms of billing. So we need to figure it out and Tracy will help us with it. There was no opposition. And yeah, I will be able to drive it on the CDF QC. It's kind of fear to be announced, but I will be joining the technical oversight committee because we're on the forum and we need four seats, so there will be no elections. This year, so effective July 1st, I will be a talk member basically replacing Kiki in this role. Which sounds really good news. So what else? Yeah, nothing else related to CDF at the moment. So we don't have any estimated time for the AWS accounts, right? Yeah, no estimated time and yeah, we agree on all sides. So what is currently happening is what I sent to the information list. We are leaking the cloud this account so that there would be an independent Jenkins account to which you will connect all sponsorships. So this account will be ready for transition. We'll be technically able to add more contributors at this stage. I believe so, but it won't be owned by CDF. So there will be somebody who's formerly the owner. Maybe it will be still cloud based. Maybe it will be some of the individual contributors if they interest the credit card from that, I'm not, but it's yet to be decided. But we are doing the initial transition stages and apparently we initiated the discussion with the CDF. But yeah, let's set the expectation. If we get it done by autumn, it will be already an achievement. So we didn't expect it to happen overnight. Yeah, I mean, that's regret because then that means that we would be able to invite to that accounts and then let these employees, which is really nice. But we should be able to unblock once the cloud this migration will complete. And thanks to Ben Walding, thanks to Ray Sullivan, another of these employees. So this is being processed quite quickly. So it is spring planning and other things apply, but generally it shouldn't be even soon. That's awesome. We are running over time for this meeting. So do you have any other topic that you want to bring here? So, yeah, then thank you for your time and I'll see you later on RSC. Goodbye. And thanks, Victor and Ivan. Thanks.


These go for much less on eBay. Poshmark is a better platform for certain items. Three, two, one. Hey, fellow buddies. Thanks for watching. All right. In this video, I'm going to talk to you about Poshmark. What sold on Poshmark? I sell on eBay, Mercari, and Poshmark. eBay is my main platform. What not is my new platform, which is creeping up to my number one. I absolutely love it.  So even if you don't want to buy, just come hang out in the chat. There is a link down below where you'll get $15 to shop if you use my referral link. So go join what not. And I hope to see you at a show. But like I said, I sell on eBay, Poshmark, Mercari, and whatnot. I start my items on eBay, Crosspost, Mercari, and Poshmark when I have time. I did a really good job. And I just today got a whole bunch of stuff on eBay and Crossposted it over to Mercari and Poshmark. So hoping to see those things selling. It's always exciting to see which platform it's going to sell on, because you just never know. Some things sell better on certain platforms. So in this video, we're talking about my Poshmark sale. So I'm going to tell you where I got it, what I paid for it, and what it sold for it. And let's get started. All right. So I do use List Perfectly to Crosspost. If you guys want to check out a video demo on how I do that, you can check it out down below. It will walk you through the entire process. For me, I like to see how things work. So check it out. If you think it's a good fit, you can get 30% off your first month with my referral, code, Bolo Buddies, all one word. So I don't know if you guys remember, I bought a Christmas mystery box at a thrift store. It was a huge box and it was supposed to be Christmas items and it ended up being a bunch of shoes.  I just don't really like to sell shoes, but I'll pick them up from time to time. So I was like, oh my goodness, I have a box of shoes. So go watch that video. Kind of funny. But I got some decent shoes. Here's one of the pairs that I got. They're Dr. Scholl's Men's Black Boat Shoes Comfort Loafers. I sold these for $25 plus the buyer paid shipping. Toys. Now I buy a lot of toys. I pick up a lot of plush at the bins at garage sales. I had a gal from the channel call me and say, hey, she messaged me on Messenger.  I need it out of my house by tomorrow. Can you come pick it up? If so, you can have it free. I think some of these items may have come from that or another haul that I had, but I sold these for $15 and the buyer paid shipping. So these are basically the items that I did comps on that were overly, let's just say they were flooded on eBay. There were a whole bunch of them or they didn't comp out well. And I decided to put them on Poshmark as the bundle because you get that discounted shipping of $7.97 for anything that's five pounds or less. That's one of the reasons I love Mercari. I mean Poshmark. I just did my video before this on Mercari. I don't care for the shipping on Mercari actually. So I use pirate ship over there. But anyway, I do love Poshmark for their shipping because anything under five pounds ships for the $7.97. So board games are fantastic. Those heavier items that are still five pounds and under that would cost you 10 to 15 on eBay. It's much cheaper on Mercari. So you can price your items higher. I said Mercari again, you can price your items higher on Poshmark because the buyer is paying less for shipping. Now they can also bundle their items.  And that's another thing that's great about Poshmark. All right. So let's move on. Here's a good example of a heavy item. I don't even think I put this on eBay. I just put it on Poshmark. It was a very long tail item. I picked it up at a garage sale. I want to say it was like a buck and I sold it for 10. It was not big money. I don't even know if I would pick it up again. It was very, very heavy. So great item for Poshmark. And it was made of recycled materials. So I thought that was kind of cool. So I picked it up. This is a Power Rangers Ripper Rat figure. It's a some sort of ninja thing. I don't know. I used a Google Lens to figure it out. Sold this for $10 and the buyer paid shipping. My cost of goods was probably a dollar or less. Now one thing about Poshmark is the buyer is paying $7.97 even for first class items. So that's kind of a downfall. If you're a buyer, it's better to bundle. So if you're going into a Poshmark closet and you're getting lightweight items, you might as well buy more so that you get that cheap shipping. Otherwise, you're going to buy this figure for 10 and you're going to pay $7.97 to have it shipped, which still isn't too bad. That is a really fantastic rate. Any more ground shipping. We've got ground advantage now. It used to be first class. I mean, you're still talking four to six dollars depending on the weight. So it's not that far off. Oh, why'd that happen? I don't know. This is a vintage 1977 Pacifica Steve Miller band belt buckle Pegasus horse. I sold this for $65 plus shipping. I got this at a garage sale. I bought a whole bunch of buckles. I think it ended up being like less than $2 per buckle. If you guys don't know about this brand, definitely be on the lookout. They have some that are kiss and those can go for hundreds of dollars, but this is what the logo on the back looks like the branding. Fisher Price Loving Family Dollhouse Twins. I believe this came out of a mystery box from auctions for you. Definitely check her out. She sells to resellers on her YouTube channel. She is also on whatnot. I will link her down below. These sold for $31 plus shipping. Handcrafted fourth of July pin. I believe I only put this on posh. No, actually, I think I had this on all three platforms and it sold fast. This on posh mark, which was not fast at all. This thing was so long tail and I think it sold after the fourth of July, which is really random. Soda for $7 and the buyer paid the shipping. This is a lot of quilting measuring rulers triangle stencils and bore and the feedback was hilarious. They're like, I didn't want to buy it, but I ended up buying it and I'm so glad I bought it because it was a great deal. They got all of this for $19. So what I did is I took all of these rulers and all of these different things. I don't even know stencils, stuff like that. And I put them in a box and I made sure the box was under five pounds and they got it all for one money. And there's some quilting things and really, really good deal, $19 plus the $7.97 shipping for all of that. So that was great. I picked that up at an estate sale and a big bundle of crafters items. These are two Lego storage cases, rectangle, yellow, and purple. What was nice about these is the purple case fit into the yellow case, so it really wasn't that big. So I was able to put it on Poshmark and I did not put this on any other platform. I only put it on Poshmark because of that shipping discount. This would have been so much more because of the weight on eBay. So yeah, it's great. And again, they fit inside of each other. I almost donated them and I'm like, Courtney, just take the time to put it in a box. Come on. It's not that hard. Put a little bubble wrap around it. Somebody is going to want these vintage storage containers. And it was the cases only. I got Legos in them. I parted out the Legos. A lot of them are sitting in a bucket to sell someday. So I probably made my money back just on the storage cases. I am horrible about buying Legos and not listing them. I usually will list enough to make my money back and then the rest just sit because I don't have time to sort them. But those mini figures, I mean the horses, the little people, all of the characters. I think I sold a bear recently. I did list a bear. And what else did I list? Some Ninja Turtle shells. I listed some of those. So some of the easier things that pop out that I know will sell quickly, I will list those. And then a lot of the bricks I'm going to sell by the pound eventually. So $27 buyer paid shipping on those. Cat's Meow village of three Lionel village pieces. These are little village pieces. They do say Lionel trains on the back. And I sold these for $55 plus shipping. I picked these up at a garage sale. I got a steal of a deal. I think it was three huge boxes. I can't even remember what I paid for them. But I probably had less than a dollar in all of these. Yes, Lula row. I fell into that trap about. I didn't fall into the trap. I didn't buy it from Lula row. I bought it at a thrift store, but I bought a bunch of them for $3 each, I believe it was. The reason I bought them, I kind of knew that, you know, the markets not real great for them. But they had Kermit the frog. They had Disney characters. And I'm like, these are going to sell because of the content. What is on the print? And this is Kermit the frog. It finally sold. I had it on eBay, Poshmark and Mercari. It sold fastest on Poshmark, which was not fast at all. You guys took forever, sold it for $19 and the buyer paid shipping. Glad it is gone. And it was new attacks. Vintage abalone pendant brooch pen alpaca Mexico. This is what it looks like. I've had this listed a very, very long time. It took a long time to sell. I did get a caliper and this is how I measure my items to show people the size. These things are super cheap on eBay, less than $15 shipped. At least when I bought it, that was the price. So definitely get one of these. They are great for showing small items. I mean, it's right there for your buyer to see. There's no question on how big this item is. It is right there. Digitally there. So check out getting one of those. I love it. It's great, great, great for jewelry. All right. So I sold this for $23 plus shipping. I don't even remember where I got it. Like I said, it's been listed a long time, probably a garage sale. This is a Spanx dress, Keeney. I got a whole bunch of these at a discount store called Gabriel Brothers. And I want to say these were marked down to I think three, three to $5. I can't remember exactly. I think three on these. Some of them I paid 10 to 12 for some of the one piece suits, but they sold like hot cakes. This dress, Keeney, a little harder to sell. Now these go for much less on eBay. Poshmark is a better platform for certain items. If it's new with tags and it's a higher dollar item, Poshmark, you're probably going to get more for your item. If you're not on Poshmark and you want to check it out, I do have a referral link down below. You will get $10 to shop with that referral link. And then I start on eBay and cross post to Mercari and Poshmark, my items. But you can list into the catalog directly, list perfectly directly in cross posts. So I think there's like 12 different platforms now. I can only handle three, but there's some people that are killing it by doing tons of platforms and they're just moving inventory. So check it out. It's a great resource. Again, Bolo Buddies is my referral code for list perfectly. That's going to get you 30% off your first month. Now this is a bundle and I sold all three of these items. They made me an offer. I can't remember what the offer is, but Poshmark takes 20% and my earnings on these three items was $36. And I believe I picked all three of these up at a garage sale and they were very long tail. Took a long time to sell. But look at my titles, bracelet earrings set, pierced earrings, drop earrings pierced, awful, awful, awful, awful titles. And that is why I sell jewelry on whatnot because I don't know how to describe anything. So anyway, come on over to whatnot. You might get a deal because I don't know what I'm doing. All right. And on whatnot, you guys, I start my jewelry anywhere from a dollar to $5. So it just depends on what it is. I do bundle things up. I do small lots. I do singles. I do a little bit of everything. And a lot of times I'm just pulling from bags and I don't even have a plan. So it's kind of exciting, kind of like an unboxing to see what I'm going to bring. So I'd love to see you guys over there. Again, use that link down below to get $15 to shop on whatnot. All right. I sold these two brawls. These were retail arbitrage. I bought these off of the Lane Bryant website when they were on clearance and I had a coupon. I did take a best offer and my earnings was $36. So whatever 20% off of that, whatever offer it was, $30. Cost of goods was probably between six and $7 a piece because I was buying them retail arbitrage off the website. A 36C is a harder size to sell in this brand. Most of the brawls in this brand are larger bust cup and band sizes. And those typically will sell for more.  I don't know why I lost my picture here, but I did. These I got from Gabriel Brothers. I want to say I paid a dollar each for these. They're like athletic shirts that have that stretch like fitted fitted feel. Again, these sold for way more than they would have on eBay. I ended up earning $20.16 cents after fees for these two items. Tommy Bahama shirts. I got these at a garage sale, or my husband did. I cannot, yeah, garage sale, dollar, dollar and two dollars. And these were cross posted to Mercari, Poshmark and eBay. And they sold fastest on Poshmark. My total earnings for these three items was $52.80. So I spent four and I made 52.80. So I'm really, really happy with that. I think I golly, I can't remember. I know I got a bunch of the garage sale, but I also know my husband brought a bunch home from an estate sale. And I'm just not sure which is which here. So they were listed for a long time. They were reversible, I think. Anyway, nice buy for the buyer, good sale for me. And I love that they can bundle. 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And now, tonight's presentation of Radio's outstanding theater of thrills. Suspense. Tonight, we bring you one of the great mysteries of the sea. A ship found drifting in perfect condition, but with no human aboard. We call it the mystery of the Merry Celeste. So now, starring John Daener, here is tonight's suspense play, the mystery of the Merry Celeste. On December 9th, 1872, the American Brigantine Merry Celeste was discovered adrift in derelict, close off the coast of North Africa. She had sustained some storm damage, but she was still an able ship. Her sails were set, her cargo was intact, conditions in her cabins and folks all seemed normal. There was no evidence of violence. Yet not a sign was found of the crew that had manned her. Officers, men and the captain's wife had vanished, and no acceptable explanation of their disappearance has ever been advanced. Perhaps this is that story. It would start in New York City's Harbor District on the night of November 7th, 1872. The eve of the Merry Celeste's departure from that same harbor. Stop or I'll shoot! What's the matter? Did you see a man running past this way? No, I didn't say anybody. I heard the shots. He just killed some people. I heard something, but I don't now. Who did the man kill? A young girl, and the man she was with.  He's a maniac that we've got to get. I'll look down this way. All right, four men from the force will be here shortly. I didn't remember killing her mother. Grace I killed because I couldn't help it. The man because he came after me when Grace was down. But I never meant to kill her mother. And when I heard that I had, I wondered if the officer was right. And then I was insane. It was not time to think of it then. Only time to think of getting away. And through that night I searched for a ship that was leaving soon. And one that was badly guarded so I could slip aboard. When I found her she was the Merry Celeste. And a drunken deck watch stayed in his sleep until I was hidden in number two hold. There I passed two days in a dream. Neither fully awake nor asleep but always thinking of the horror I had done. And I knew that escape was wrong. And then I could never be sane until I cleared my soul of it. On the third morning I proceeded to make my presence aboard known so that I can go to the captain and tell him of my crime and take the consequences I so richly deserve. I climbed to the deck and immediately seen by a crewman. Finally look who's that? Mr. What are you doing aboard? My name is Sam Newcombe and I want to talk to your captain. You'll talk to him right enough. Whether you want it or not. How'd you get on board? You'll be lucky if you didn't stand the 12-4 watch your last night in Port because that's when it was.  Better than a thief. I admit that. I want no trouble with you. Please. Take me to the captain. I'll talk to him and no one else. You take him bold. I'd better stay forward. Come on, Newcombe. You're gonna make the rest of the trip with us. You better drop your airs or there'll be trouble. I don't have any airs. And I don't think you'll be troubled with my company. Oh, you mean you don't think you're quarter with a crew? No. You expect to be with your officers like an honored guest? No. I don't know.  Don't you say that. I don't. You what? Nothing. I'm sorry I want to talk to you, Captain. Watch what you do. Say you'll be over the side. Watch your language. The skipper's wife is in the next cab on air. Who's this? He just came out of number two holes, sir. His name's Sam Newcombe. Tell Hubbard on the 12-4 watch are last night in. Hubbard's watch. He'll answer for it. Newcombe? Well, you have to save yourself. I'd like it if I could talk to you alone, sir. Well, that's all, Bowl. Tell Hubbard I want to see him as soon as he's off-watch. Yes, sir. Tell I, Newcombe, that you've committed a crime by boarding this ship without permission. And probably without passport or any other papers I suppose. I know, sir, but when I tell you why... I'm not a bad man, sir. Nothing like this ever happened before, I didn't know what I was doing. Another one who's always wanted to go to sea, I suppose. Oh, no, sir, I've been sailing for ten years. I'm an able hand. I came aboard because I had to get away. You're in trouble? Yes, sir. I don't think it was my fault, but I am wrong. What kind of trouble? It was a girl, sir, who I was in love with. I don't know what came over me, but... What'd you do to her? I found her with another man. And... I just had to get away, sir. Love, sir. Well, that doesn't condone... Again? Oh, yes, my dear. Oh, I'm sorry, I thought I heard you talking. Yes, yes, this is Mr. Newcombe. He came aboard illegally the night before we left. Well, where has he been? It's three days. In number two hold, ma'am. Have you had food and water? No, ma'am. Did you come to us before this? I don't know, ma'am. He was going to tell me why he came aboard. I don't suppose it's important to anyone but me. I felt that I had to get away, and... It was a girl. I almost guessed that. A broken heart. I thought it was. I know it sounds silly, but to me it seemed awfully serious, and I couldn't think of another way to leave as quickly as I wanted to. Yes, yes. There's no way I can allow an affair of the heart to influence what I must do in this case. By reputation, I'm a fair and lenient man. Well, I'm a seamen, sir. I could work my way. I'm not so sure you deserve the chance. Whatever you say, sir. Ben. Please, Grace. What's the matter with you? Nothing, sir. My name. Grace is the name of the girl. Yes, ma'am. It was learning that the captain's wife was a boy that made me change my mind about telling him the truth. When I talked to him, especially after his wife came, everything was turned about. It was as though I was the captain, and the stowaway was someone else. It was as though my wife, my Grace had come in from the next cabin, and together we talked to this stowaway. And we felt sorry for him, and wanted to be kind to him. The wife can't be more than three or four years older than I, and I feel close to her right away. I think that even if she doesn't know what I've done, she understands me. It is a good feeling to have one friend on the ship. Through her pleas, I am sure I am not restrained, and instead sent to take my place with the crew and their folks. What are you doing here? Couldn't you find a better place to quarter? I was told where to come. Ah, Hubbard. Wake up. Here's the one came aboard during your watch. What did you figure you'd be fined, Hubbard? A week's pay? That's right. Newcombe, huh? Yes. Why'd you come aboard? I wanted to get away from New York. Man's gotta have a better reason than that. Are you running away from the police? No. What then? I wouldn't interest you. It's not important. It's important to me. I want you to know how I feel about it. You gonna get up? No. I want no trouble with any of you. Trouble? You caused me trouble, haven't you? I'll be called up in front of the captain because of you. That's done. There's no way I can change it. We've got three weeks before we make Naples. You'll pay for it. I'll see to that. Through the following days I knew no peace. There were four deckhands and the first officer and although I had reason to fight because of the way they beat me and used me, I did not. I was afraid of my own violence now that I had killed. The one named Hubbard was the worst. His eyes were always on me and I wondered why. There was a night when I woke to find him bending over my bunk. He was smiling and from that moment on, even in sleep, I felt him watching me. On another night, I am on deck. I'm crossing from port to starboard and when I pass under the main yard a Marlin spike falls from a loft. Insticts in the planks beside me narrowly missing my head. I look up to see Hubbard smiling down at me from the rigging. I try to avoid him but he drops to the deck to face me. I dropped my spike. I know you did. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. You take more than any man I've ever known, Luke. I'm not proud of that. But why do you keep after me? Why don't you leave me alone? Because I'm a curious man. I want to know truly why you're on this ship. Your story to the captain about trouble with some woman just doesn't set right. It's the truth. Not all of it. Why do you say that? Anybody ever tell you you're talking your sleep? You are listening to The Mystery of the Mary Celeste. Tonight's presentation in Radio's Outstanding, Theatre of Thrills, Suspense. We all have treasured possessions, keepsakes and mementos which are irreplaceable regardless of cost.   Be sure all cigarettes are out before discarding them. Clear your house of old newspapers, damaged furniture and inflammable debris. Repair electrical wiring as soon as it shows signs of wear. These simple rules will keep your valuables safe. They could even save your life. And now we bring back to our Hollywood soundstage, John Daener starring in tonight's production, The Mystery of the Mary Celeste. A tale well calculated to keep you in, Suspense. I had never been told that I talked in my sleep until the one named Hubbard said I did. He may have been lying, but I could not chance that. Therefore I carefully abstained from regular sleeping habits allowing myself short naps only when I knew that Hubbard was at the helm or some other ship's business that he could not leave. The horror that I had done became a secret that pressed against my head, wanting escape. But I held it in and I took the abuse of the men aboard. The only kindness and relaxation I find out during the moments when I chance to meet the captain's wife. Off watch one night when it is not safe to sleep I am alone taking a cup of tea in the galley when she comes in. Oh, Mrs. Briggs. Sorry, Mr. Newcomb, I've been thinking of you. I haven't seen you. Well, you look ill. Is there something wrong? Nothing, ma'am. All my sleep has not been so good. And your cheek is bruised. What happened? Nothing serious. Some trouble with the other hands. Have you told the captain? No, no, ma'am. Why not? I shall. No, please, don't. I've caused enough trouble. I wouldn't want there to be any more. May I have some tea, Mr. Newcomb? Oh, yes, ma'am. I think you're a very kind man, Mr. Newcomb. Oh, you do? Yes. To protect the other hands for one thing. They're a rough lot, I know. No, no worse than most, ma'am. You're very unhappy, aren't you? This girl, Grace. I know this is hard for you to understand, but really, no one girl is worth ruining your life for. Not even losing sleep for. Yes, ma'am. I wish you'd stop calling me ma'am. Perhaps if you did, you could talk to me about this girl. I think it would do you good, don't you? I don't know. Tell me about her. I'm sure she's quite beautiful. Well, I thought so. And you plan to be married? Yes. But she changed her mind. Well, she was never sure. She was ambitious for me. That's natural. And I disappointed her like I did my family, my mother, everybody. I'm always thinking that I'm doing my best, but I always disappoint people. What did she want you to be, this girl? Or a ship's master, like your husband. We dreamed of the day she could sail with me like you do on this ship. You mustn't lose faith in yourself. It took my husband years to get his papers. There are no years for me anymore. She wouldn't wait. No. She wouldn't wait. You must have waited, but she wouldn't. She promised to wait, but she didn't. She never understood that it took time. She was ambitious, and she pushed me for my officer's papers, and I failed. My family pushed me, too, when I wasn't ready, and they made me fail. And I went away six months, tripped to South America. I tried to jump overboard, and they stopped me. And I got back and found her married to a ship's captain. And her mother was there, laughing at me. I tried to tell them that I was happy about it. Then Grace smiled at me, and something happened. Something happened.  I didn't even know the others were there. I hit her, and when she went down, the man came after me, and I hit him, too. And when you get in a mix-up like that, you just don't know what you're doing. Time means nothing.  I don't remember that, but she's dead, too, and then they blame me. Maybe I did. Mrs. Briggs, where are you going? Stay away from me. No, you've been nice to me. Why did it have to be you that I told everything?  Why did it have to be you? No, no, no.  I never wanted to kill anybody. So let me go. No, please, I won't hurt you. You've been nice to me. Stay away from me. I won't touch you. I won't touch you. But you got the promise. You won't tell. I don't know why I said those things. They aren't true. I get mixed up. I dream things and then they seem real after I wake up.  I always lie. Nothing I told you was the truth. Nothing. You believe that? Yes. Yes. You won't tell anybody what I said? I won't tell anyone. I'm glad. Now, come, Mrs. Briggs, finish your tea. We'll talk about something else. No, no, I've got to go to my cabin. Mrs. Briggs, don't tell. I knew she would tell and so I hid. I went back to number two hole who I had felt safe before. I don't know how much time passed. There they find me. I see their lantern as they come closer. The truth is out and there is no place for me to go. So I stand up and wait. I think. Yes, Hubbard, keep your pistol ready. We'll have to be careful. Yes, sir. There he is, sir. Come out of there, Nogo. Keep your lantern down. Keep us out of the light. He's dangerous. I won't cause any trouble, sir. Get him out of there. I won't cause any trouble, sir. It's all right, sir. He's down.  I am not sure how many days passed, but I found comfort in being locked up because I could sleep without the fear of Hubbard leaning over me, listening for what I might say. Then there was one night when shouting on deck woke me up. I couldn't hear the words being in the middle of the ship, but soon the shouting stopped and it was silenced. It was a new silence that I studied for a long time. I heard no footsteps on the deck. I heard no voices. I heard no creaking timbers. It was a dead ship. I wait for the one daily meal that they allow me. No one comes. And then I shout. Let me out! Somebody come! If one were insane, he would surely break at a moment like that. I was locked up and alone on a ship that was held motionless as if gripped by some great hand, but I did not break. I dismantled my bunk and from the wood and fashioned a ram with which I attacked the door. The task of freeing myself consumed most of the day. And such was my concentration that I didn't realize the exact moment that the ship began moving as if the great hand had released its grip and set her free. And I was free. I come out on deck to find a cloudless sky and empty sea horizons all around as if I am alone in the world. The wheels spinning idly with no one to attend it. I lash it after fitting a new course to the sail that she is wearing. The whole ship is mine. I am master and crew. And I have found peace and well-being as if I've been absolved of any wrongs I ever did. Because what if not Providence held the ship that night and sent the others to certain death in the endless sea? What if not kind Providence decided that I, I alone would survive? The meek and humble shall inherit the earth. This narrative I swear to be true. And on this second day of December the year of our Lord 1872 I hereby sign it and seal it in a bottle to be delivered to the ocean currents in the hope that someday it will drift back to the hated world from which I am forever parted. According to scientific theory a strange phenomenon takes place now and again off the coast of Africa near where the Mary Celeste was found. Great rivers of sand are swept out from the coastal deserts. When certain conditions prevail this sand is concentrated by the ocean currents. Millions of tons are masked until an island is born, lives briefly and then is swept away by a shift in the currents that created it. One such island formed under a small ship held it for a number of hours then released it much in the same manner that Sam Newcombe's Providence acted. A like occurrence could have caused the abandonment of the Mary Celeste but no one knows. According to some reports Sam Newcombe's signed confession did drift ashore many years later. If that is true perhaps another of the many mysteries surrounding the Mary Celeste has been solved. That mystery was a short length of line that reportedly was found secured to the stern of the ship close up under the transom where someone would hide. Attached to this line was a man's leather belt that had parted in the middle. Could Sam Newcombe have hidden there when the salvage crew was put aboard to sail the ship to Gibraltar? Could he have hung suspended there against the weakening belt until it parted and let him sink silently into the sea? Suspense in which John Daner starred in tonight's presentation of the mystery of the Mary Celeste. Next week the story of a murder plan that was discovered and which led to a double execution we call it the eavesdropper. That's next week on Suspense. Suspense is produced and directed by Anthony Ellis. Tonight's script was written by Gil Dowd. The music was composed by Lucian Morrowek and Rene Garagang and conducted by Wilbur Hatch. 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Our distinguished guest for this evening is the Honorable Price Daniel, Attorney General of Texas. The opinions expressed are necessarily those of the speakers. Mr. Attorney General, many of our Chronoscope audience know you, of course, as the vigorous young Texas Attorney General, who has been fighting the Supreme Court ruling in the Thailand's oil case. And then recently you've been in the news by announcing your candidacy against Senator Tom Connolly, who heads the Foreign Relations Committee.  Mr. Huey, I'm a candidate for the United States Senate from Texas because I believe that it is a time for a change in the direction in which our country has been going since World War II. And I believe that the change can be hastened by one who is not obligated to present federal officials. Now, what is your case against the present incumbent? Well, sir, I really thought we were going to discuss some other matters. I'd rather discuss my Senate race in Texas, not in New York. Well, you know, people of Texas will be seeing this program, so I think you're perfectly safe when it goes down there on a couple of leading stations, so you'll be talking to Texas as well as to the rest of the country. Well, that's different. If I'll be talking to Texans, I'd be glad to tell you that the main points in my platform for the Senate are first, a non-partisan house cleaning of all this loyalty and dishonesty in our present federal agencies, wherever it may exist. Secondly, a stop to excessive spending and high taxes. Third, a strong preparedness program, but one which will cut out the waste and extravagance in our present program and which will disappoint the communists by not spending ourselves to death. And the fourth plank in my platform is a positive and understandable foreign policy, one which will not yield to communism anywhere on the face of the globe. The fifth plank in my platform is opposition to socialized medicine, socialized farming, and every other form of socialization that our country has been following or trying to follow in recent years, and then the last plank, restoration of our tidelands to our states. Well now, which one of those points, sir, do you regard, do you think that Texans are most interested in? If you had to point to one issue between yourself and the senator, what issue would you point to as being most important or of most interest to Texans? I believe of most interest to Texans is the restoration of simple honesty and moral integrity in our government. I believe that they want someone who will speak out more firmly on the matter, someone who is not under any obligations to present federal agencies or present federal appointees. Of course now as far as a matter of particular economic interest, I would say the tidelands issue is of most importance to Texans. What would be your attitude, Mr. Daniel, toward Secretary Atchison, for example, on foreign policy? On foreign policy I feel that we would have more unity in our country, more unity against our enemies if Secretary Atchison would step down, would resign or be replaced. Well I'd like to ask you about your attitude toward Mr. Truman. Would you favor his renomination? No, sir. I oppose the renomination of President Truman. I'd do that for several reasons, but you've just asked me to do a favor or oppose his renomination. I'm opposed to his renomination. You mentioned corruption as being a vital issue in Texas. I believe you gained some attention from the Key Forber Senate Crime Committee for some of your fight against crime and corruption in Texas. Is that correct, sir? That is true. And have you been able to do away with such things as slot machines and other types of organized crime in Texas? We've been able to have some success at the state level. For instance, we led the nation in slot machines last year with 9,555 machines. In less than a year they've been reduced to zero with the help of the Texas legislature and our county and district attorneys. And then I think the most important thing we've done in Texas is to get the Western Union and telephone companies under injunction to keep them from bringing resource gambling information into Texas. That has shut down all of our bookie shop operation. Well, Mr. Daniel, I know this Tideland's case is very close to your heart. You argued this before the Supreme Court as Attorney General. What do you think of the decision of the court in that case? Well, of course, Mr. Hazelt, I think the decision is incorrect. The court refused to hear the evidence. For the first time in the history of the Supreme Court, that court denied a state the right to introduce evidence in a contested lawsuit. Could you explain briefly what the essence of the case was, what was involved in this Tideland's case? Yes. As you know, the Tideland's problem involves the claim of the federal government to submerge lands within state boundaries here to fore-recognize to be the property of the states. That's all of the states. In our country for over 100 years it has been recognized that the states own the lands beneath navigable waters within their boundaries. In addition to that, Texas had a special annexation agreement by which we specifically retained all of our unsold lands when we entered the United States. Now, after 100 years of recognizing that this property belonged to the states, in recent years federal officials came along and sued Texas, California, and Louisiana, and now claims the property from many of the other states. Now, Mr. Attorney General, let's see what's at state here. First, do just states fronting on oceans have Tideland's? Is it a problem that concerns only those states that are on the oceans? The immediate problem concerns those states which are on the oceans are the Great Lakes, 21 coastal and Great Lakes states. Now, Tideland's has come to mean the lands within the original boundaries below low tide, below the beaches, out to the states seaward bound. Now, it's great wealth at stake in these Tideland's. Yes. And what, in Texas particularly, of course, oil is what's at stake there. Oil is our most valuable resource in our Tideland's. And so essentially it's a conflict between the state and the federal government for the control of valuable oil lands. That is true with respect to Texas, Louisiana, and California. Other states now have just as valuable resources. Does New York state, New Jersey, states in the northern area, does that have... That is correct. New York and New Jersey have sand, shell, fish, and other things in that area which are bringing in considerable revenues to the states and to the people of the states. Also, I'd like to remind you that New York has millions and millions of dollars worth of improvements built beyond low tide along Long Beach, Coney Island, and a lot of fill lands have been improved, reclaimed and improved. The federal government's now claiming that property. And this issue is the issue to decide whether the federal government should have control over all such things as you've just mentioned, including the oil in Texas and other valuable properties. Oil in Texas, the iron ore under the Great Lakes, coal under the West Virginia streams, and so forth. Mr. Daniel, I just wanted to find out, clarify this question. Mr. Daniel, isn't the question also of private property involved in the way that the Supreme Court worded its decision? Many good lawyers, including members of the American Bar Association and the American Title Association, feel that the federal government could take private property as well as state property under the theory of these tidelands decisions. And therefore, I think you're correct. If ever federal officials had the nerve to go that far toward nationalizing property, I believe they could do it under the theory of these decisions. And your contention, one of your contensions also is that the Supreme Court in effect nullified a solemn treaty between the federal government and Texas when Texas entered the union. No doubt about it, Mr. Hazlett. Texas had a solemn contract saying, first, we offered to give the United States all our unsold lands if they'd assume our indebtedness of $10 million. The United States Senate in 1844 turned that down. They said the lands are worthless. You keep your lands and pay your own debts. Texas was the only state required to do that, to pay its own indebtedness. Well, then they submitted to us a written proposition to keep our lands and pay our own debts. We did it. We lived up to our part of the agreement. The United States lived up to its part of the agreement for 100 years until the land became valuable and until some federal influence peddlers wanted to get federal leases on the property. Then they broke the agreement. Now, has the federal government, the Supreme Court has said that these valuable lands in effect belong to the federal government. Has it not? Yes, they've used the term paramount powers. I see. And you're trying to go through Congress to get legislation re-establishing or redefining states' rights, state ownership to these tight lands. That is correct. The attorneys general and governors of more than 40 states have been sponsoring legislation in the Congress for the return of this property and clearly defining the difference between political rights and property rights. Well, Mr. Attorney General, as a final question, I'd like to ask you, what do you think is the most serious problem that the people of the United States face this year? I think the most serious problem we face is to get rid of some of this concentration of power in Washington. We have too much power centralized in our national sovereign. It's bringing on a lot of the inefficiency, plunder, graft and corruption. And I say that the big problem is to get our government back to the people. I believe that's the biggest problem facing us today. Well, we appreciate very much the light you've thrown on this problem and we appreciate very much the time you've taken to come up here with us. Thank you. Thank you, sir. The editorial board for this edition of the Lone Gene Chronoscope was Mr. William Bradford Huey and Mr. Henry Haslett. Our distinguished guest was the Honorable Price Daniel, Attorney General of Texas. 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