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And now with For Love or Murder and with the performance of Mickey Rooney, auto light hopes once again to keep you in suspense. Nothing could have stopped me. Nothing on earth could have stopped me. There were drums beating in my head as I left the taxi and started down 55th street. The moon was high over Jersey, staring. There was no one outside the building, no one near it at all. I walked slowly toward the service entrance and into the cellar. I knew where the back stairs were, we'd rehearsed the whole thing on paper a hundred times, more than a hundred times. It wasn't something you blundered into. Anne had taught me that. It wasn't something you did on the spur of the moment. Murder had to be a calm, organized thing. Murder had to be planned. If anyone saw me going up the back stairs, it might cause a little fuss. But if I were calm, if I were organized, if I moved slowly and acted as though nothing was wrong, they'd pass and ignore me. I was just an eccentric fellow who'd rather walk upstairs than ride elevators. New York was full of such people. But no one saw me. All the way up to the fourth floor, no one saw me. Then I stepped out onto the landing. I waited an hour or ten seconds or ten years. Time meant nothing. I wasn't aware of it passing. I slid the gun into my hand. It felt as hot and heavy as death itself. Oh, you're late.  I thought you weren't coming. Where is he? In there. In there. Who is it, Anne? Who is it? Well, quickly, darling. Do it fast. Yeah, yeah. Who is it, Anne? Um... Who are you? What do you want?  I see. I didn't say, uh... He looked like a little fish. Like a helpless, harmless, scared fish. And the drums in my head beat louder, and the wheels turned, the lights flashed, and that little man melted toward me. No, I see. I see. No. No! I hit him! I hit him! I hit him! I hit him! Wait. No, wait. He's dead. He must be dead after that. He'd only fought back or something. He just took it. No, he's dead. He's dead. Huh? Now, dear. Huh? Me. You've got to hit me. I... I didn't think it'd be like this, Anne. How'd you think it'd be? A tea party? So awful, dirty, and... What's the matter with you, Tommy? I didn't think it'd be like this, Anne. You can't weaken now, Tommy. No. Take the gun. Yeah. And the rest. Do you remember the rest of it? The other things you've got to do? Yes, I... I remember. Hit me hard. You've got to hit me hard. Hit you hard. You've got to be Marx. Mustn't look like I've framed this. Now, it must be hard. Yeah. And then the jewelry and stuff. Jewelry and stuff. I put them up on the dresser. And his wallet. Here. Take it. It must look good, darling. It must look good. Yeah. Yeah. And must up the room. Do you remember? I remember. I remember. All right. Now, quickly. Hit me. Hit me. I love you, Anne. I must love you very much. Hit me! She fell, but she didn't just fall down. She fell into a graceful little ball. Even unconscious, she seemed in perfect control of things. The room. The room had to be ripped up. Ripped up. The room had to be ripped. Ow! Took the stuff she had piled up on the dresser. Braceless rings, pins. She ripped his wallet into my pocket. Then I got out. I got out as fast as I could. The way was clear all the way down. Just a cellar. That was all that was left. One fast. Whoever it was came straight toward me. He saw me. There was no hiding. And he was between me and the street. He shoveled toward me. I lifted the gun. Good. You're just the second young boy. Let me get a little... I swung hard and spun back into the raw pan. I waited a moment. And then the street was still empty. Then I came out and I felt like running along it. I almost ran along it. Then I was cool. The air felt good. I walked away. I walked away. And I thought about love. About me being in love. What kind of love was this? What kind of love was it that made a guy behave like this? What kind of love was it that caused people to be hurt? People to be killed? What kind of love was it? I walked a... I walked... Finally, I looked at my watch. Ten minutes. The whole thing had taken just ten minutes. What was the rest of it? Yeah, I had to get back to the club before it was time for me to go on again. Before it was time for me to seat myself at the piano in the lounge and soothe away the cares of tired, sophisticated New Yorkers. I had to get back quickly. No one saw me. The back way. I used the back way, the same one I'd left by. Yeah. That was my life from now on, baby. The back way, sneak in, sneak out. It'd be hard to break myself into the habit after tonight. But it was cheap. The cheap price to pay for it. Any price really was cheap to pay for it. And that's all I had to ever remember. I was in my little dressing room for two or three minutes. Had a chance, even, to wash my face. Yeah, yeah, I'll be with you in a minute. Okay, Tommy. The wallets, the bracelets, the junk I'd forgotten to ditch and get rid of them first thing Anna told me. And I'd forgotten. I didn't want them around. They might make trouble hanging around. Hello, Tommy. How's the boy rock mononoff, huh? Hiya, Jimmy. Have your nap, all set to go? Yeah, I slept a little. I'll be right back. Sure, kid, sure. How are you, Frank? I thought I'd get a little air. Yes, sir. Nothing like it. One thing about being a doorman, I don't make much money, but I get an awful lot of fresh air. Fresh as you can get in New York anyway, huh? Right you are, Mr. Licky. Gonna take a little walk. Certainly hit it right that time. Fresh as you can get in New York. Moonless. Still high over Jersey. Staring. Sewer. That was the best spot. Just throw them in and let the East River take care of them. I had the wallet in my hand when I... Where's that at, Tommy? You look like you're in love. Officer, I didn't see you. Officer, is it? You're getting awful formal. Kind of jumpy, ain't you? No, no, no, Dan. Dan, it's just that you startled me, that's all. I startled you, did I? I was just standing there and you walked within two inches of me and didn't see me. It's you're in love. I know the symptom, you're in love. Love. Maybe you're right, Dan. That's a great feeling, lad. Dangerous. If you need someone to help you find your way back to the club, just tell me. In your condition, no telling where you'll walk. Yeah, I'll wait until his footsteps died out and then... Sewer. Sewer fast. And he gets... Gotta go to work, gotta... What's that? Now, there's boys with something on their mind. Yeah. Going down fifty-fifth looks like from here. Somebody's in for it. I gotta be... The customers are screaming for you. Come on, come on. I wasn't afraid. I wasn't nervous. The cops would be talking to Ann now. If she made a slip, the two of us would be dead. As dead as you could get. I knew she wouldn't make any slips. She'd be too smart for him. We'd plan too well for him. It was all so simple. He couldn't make anything out of it. A crook slipped into her apartment, killed her husband. Her rich, fat, tired, helpless husband. He slugged her. That was all there was to it. Happens in New York. Happens a lot in New York. Could she help it if the whole thing made her a rich woman? Could she help it if a housebreaker freed her from her husband so she could marry someone else? Could she help that? Set up was so perfect. What could go wrong? I sat and played Chopin. Strauss, Gershwin, Berlin. I sat and played the music of kind and great and gentlemen. I tried to keep that thing on the floor out of my mind. I tried to keep that out of my mind. You know that dame that used to come in here, that Anne Thomas? I don't think I... Oh, you remember the one? The brunette. The cute one. Used to have a crush on you. Lives on 55th Street. Anne Thomas? Yeah. I remember... What? A fuss down her house tonight. Somebody broke in and messed things up. Killed her husband, banged her around. Dan Ryan was telling me. It's too bad. You're never safe in these big towns, are you? You're never safe anywhere. You were safe if you were smart. You were safe if you had someone like Anne to think things out for you. You were safe if you had her to look forward to. To depend on you. I was safe. That was all that mattered really. I was safe. It was childish to worry about guys like Anne's husband. It was silly to get squeamish over a little blood. People died every minute in New York. They were useless and they were in the way and they died. But it didn't matter whether it was murder or something else. People died. Sure, sure, that's... That's what Anne would have said. That's what Anne would have told me. And that was the right way to look at it. That was the right way. But Olight is bringing you Mr. Mickey Rooney in for love or murder. 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And now Auto-Light brings back to our Hollywood soundstage our star Mickey Rooney with Lorraine Tuttle in For Love or Murder, a tale well-calculated to keep you in suspense. The night went fast. People came, people went. Stood in front of the piano. He smiled and frowned. Once in a while, someone requested a number. Once in a while, someone applauded. It was a night like any other night.  Uh, what time is it? Almost three. You sure can't tickle those keys, Tommy. You must have a beautiful soul. Well, what's the matter?  What?  Well, I didn't mean to say anything wrong, Tommy. What did I say?   Talk to yourself all night, build yourself up, tell yourself things were all right and you were a great guy, smart guy.   Made you feel like garbage.  Beautiful soul? My soul? So what?  I tried to sleep. Got up and tried to read words danced in front of me like they'd been hung on rubber bands. Nerves, nerves, nerves. It's just nerves. Anna could have talked me out of it in a minute. All I had to do was get some sleep or talk to Anna. Yeah. Yeah. All night, not a word. That's why I was jumpy. Suppose she was in trouble. Suppose something had gone wrong. Suppose somewhere we'd slipped. Operator, give me... No. If the wires were tapped, no, I wouldn't do it a call. But if I went to the apartment the way I went last night, no one would see me. The police wouldn't expect that. That's the last thing they'd expect. I had to touch her. I needed her strength. I needed her to tell me things were all right. I had to see her. I had to see her. I could get in and out again. No one would be the wiser. Four in the morning, the street was empty. The cellar was colder than it had been. The stairs were lighted. A thin red bulb at each landing. I didn't remember that. It's calm. Calm, no. Let me in. You shouldn't have come. I suppose they're watching. You think they're watching? I don't know. You know what I told you? Yeah, but... You know what we planned? You weren't to get in touch with me for days. For days. I know, but I had to see you, baby. Please, let me... Let me now stop. You shouldn't have come. Just a moment. I love you so, honey. I had to be with you. No, no. No.  You're really a sweet boy, Tom. You're not angry with me, honey. Did anyone see you? No, no. I'm sure of it. I was careful.  I feel strong again. I feel strong. I could do anything now. I was kind of mixed up tonight, but I'm all right now. I feel good now. Sweet boy. You're worried? Huh? Why? Didn't we plan? Didn't we plan good enough to fool anybody? Why were you worried? I don't know. I don't know. Please believe me. I knew they would. You sure they did? Well, of course I'm sure. They were sympathetic and kindly. They were nice. Well, suppose they were only pretending. Sometimes, you know, they pretended. Oh, when men are acting with me, I know what... Come on, baby. Come here. There's no reason in the world to think this is any different than a thousand other robberies. I told you that. I told you that from the beginning. We'll be happy now, huh? Won't we? Won't we be happy together? Now tell me that, baby. We'll be happy. Yeah, we'll be happy. I love you, baby. I love you. Aren't you a little sorry about the janitor? Janitor? What about the janitor? Oh. What about the janitor? See the man I met in the cellar? What about him? He's dead. What? He fractured his skull. No, no. I said you were a wild boy. You never meant that. I didn't know I hit him so hard.  He turned wild. I didn't mean to kill a man. I'm sorry I told you. You're going to worry about him all night. I'll be careful next time when I tell you. I wish I had a piano so you could play for me. I'd like to hear you play, honey. Be careful, baby. What? It's only the phone? Careful, honey. Yes? What? You've got the wrong number. Wrong number. Silly dog. What do you want, honey? I don't know. It's the wrong number. You want a drink, Tommy? No, no. You mind if I make one for myself? Go ahead, honey. You know you hit me awful hard last night. Look at the lump there. Look at it. I didn't want to hit you that hard. It'll look good. It'll look awful good. Oh, for pity's sake. Careful, baby. Yes? Oh, it's you again. You've got the wrong number. The wrong number. The way people annoy you. Annie. Yeah, Tommy. Annie. That janitor. Who? Who was he? Who was he? I don't know. Just a janitor, that's all. Did he have any kids? Two or three? Yeah. I think so. Why? You want to get some ice? I don't know why I wanted to know. I'm telling you. I'll get it. I'll take it. I'll tell you. No, Tommy. I'll get it. No, Annie. That's you, Anne. Okay, this is the last time. I love that wrong number routine. Who have you got up there? The young chick who rupped your husband out for you? Huh?  Get rid of him as soon as you can. And I don't want him hanging around after we're married, you know? That's you, Anne. Why don't you say something? Why don't you... Tommy. I sat down in the bed and I felt very calm and very organized. And I heard the drums start thumping in my brain. But delicate and far off. This time they had a sad, lost beat. What is it, Tommy? Was it that same silly guy? The janitor has three kids, huh? Who's going to feed them? Annie, who's going to love them? What's the matter with you, Tommy? Oh, Tommy. Come here. Let's sit down. What have you got on me anyway? What is there about you? Tommy. You're bad for me. You're awful bad for me. You could make all kinds of a sucker out of me. You could turn my stomach in 50 different directions a minute.  Why? I don't like it, but you don't like it. I don't like it. Why would I love you? Ah, you're tired.  Don't touch me! Tom, what? What is it, that phone call? That's a gag. That's someone playing a joke. I was a patsy, huh? All that horror and all that fright. I got black with two good men's blood helping you and that guy on the phone. Tom! Tom, put that gun away. Now listen, I'll explain. Tom, let me talk. You think I like to do those things, Annie? Tom, now listen. I killed two men to get you in. But I haven't got you. He's got you. The guy on the phone's got you. No, Tom! No, he hasn't! My hand, I did. I bought you. That's not fair. By rights, you shouldn't be mine. You're not mine, are you? No, Tom! No, it was always you.  I gave him up. I was only kidding him. I was only spitting him along. It was always you, Tommy. I wasted all that blood on him. No, Tom, please! Wasted two guys and three kids. No! It's gotta end, then. Tom, no! It's gotta end! No, Tom! It can't be love, can it? No, Tom! It couldn't have ever been love. Love doesn't hurt like this. It doesn't end! It doesn't! It wasn't neat, now.  Quiet! I'll walk down a corridor the night of December 10th, and I shall die. It's not important. They've let me play the piano here. 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Good day. My name is Vaan and here is Tigran. My name is Tigran Georgin. We're going to talk about HTTP time bandit. But before we start our talk, I have one thing to ask. This is our first talk at Defcon.  Be very, very, very gentle to us. Please. Thanks. So about us, Tigran and I work for QALIS. We break stuff for farm. Sometimes we fix them too. We are interested in time travel and we'll talk about that a bit later. And we both love to try. We do travel. So what we're going to talk about. The presentation short but effective maybe. You will judge by leaving the room or not. It's going to be about another application there, DOS method. And we'll then show you the tool. We'll go through some stats. And we'll talk about what are good or bad uses of the tool or method. And then we'll glance over the defense against this method. Why? Why do we do this? It's obvious because we wanted to have time machine. We couldn't buy any on eBay. We could but it was similar to what you see on a screen. And that really doesn't work. So we thought we will make our own time machine. And I think we succeeded. The time machine that we have does one thing and does it well. It can give you the future state of your web server given the resources you're going to push on it. About it a bit later. So we're going to talk about application layer, DOS tool or method. And for us, DOS tools in application layer are of two different kinds. There are some that are not that smart. And another group that is a bit smarter. Non-smart approach is just pushing the resource over and over and over hoping that the resource will die. And then you do that from multiple instances. And it works. But that doesn't have feedback sometimes. And load is near symmetrical. Smarter boats like things like slow-lovery, slow-estate test, PKI abuse and what not. They are smarter and they are asymmetrical in nature. Our proposed method is going to be striving to be asymmetrical. So how do we do this? So the point of this tool, the information from future, is picking the resources out of all the available ones, picking the ones that are most painful for the server. While people say all servers don't feel pain, we all know they do. So how do we do this? We spider the website, we collect a compiler list of the resources. And then we start measuring certain things. For example, the download speed or the start to download time. And what this gives us is a lot of data. And what deals very well with a lot of data. And that's statistics. So we use statistics to filter through the data. We calculate the average of all the download times. That gives us a baseline. What is a normal transfer time? And then we can tell, oh, these resources are slower or faster. So we use, to formalize this, we used mean as the measure of central tendency. And we calculate the standard deviation. The resources that have high standard deviation. That means that they are inaccurate in terms of they can be fast or they can be slow, but we can't really tell. So we throw them away. We select resources that have slower download times or start to download times. And we think that this is related to CPU load. And the reason is that all the transfer delays are the same for all the resources, the network related ones. And so if some resource has higher transfer time, that must be resource specific. And that makes it interesting. So this, for example, is a chart of resource download for a website. And you can see that the majority of resources fall close together in some middle range. There are some outliers, some fast outliers and some slow ones. And the ones that are interesting are the slow ones. The question is what causes these resources to be slow? Is it the CPU load or is it just a slip somewhere on the page? So a small demonstration and not to anger the demo gods, we did a video. Okay. So here the tool is running against a locally hosted web server. And when it's done, it generates a list of URLs with the measurement mean, the standard deviation. While this is nice, it's not very, very useful. Instead the tool can be instructed to output all this information in an XML. So here we see the resources sorted by their download speed in increasing order. So the resources, the HTML resources down at the bottom are the fast resources. And the PHP resources are near the top. And this is because PHP requires the PHP interpreter invocation which takes some additional time. And the resource at the top is some artificially made pie calculation which understandably takes a long time. And so XML is very nice because it can be fed into some other tools. And I have one example which is an XSLT that transforms this information into something that can be visualized. So you'll see a scatter chart of download speed and standard deviation. And there are four quadrants here. The top quadrants, two quadrants, they are the resources that have high standard deviation which means that the measurements were inaccurate. So since we cannot trust these resources, we throw them away. Instead we concentrate on the resources on the bottom half. On the right side, these resources are fast resources and consistently so. So they are not bottlenecks. Instead we concentrate on the resources on the lower left quadrant. And closer to the 00 point, the better, I mean the painful the resource would be for the server. So the tool also can be, can generate data for visualization in other means. For example, the next one whenever it comes, it will be, the tool is instructed to generate graph visis dot language graph. So here you can see a small website with transitions and it is marked with the transfer time. So slowly resources could be highlighted. I didn't do a good job here but the capability is there. So next, the tool is going to scan a real website built with concrete CMS. And so we give it the URL to start with how deep into the website to go into and how many measurements for each resource to take and write all that into concrete dot XML which will be processed later. So once it's done, it's crawling right now. So once it's done, it will generate the XML. And then what can be done with this XML is again feed it back into the tool which will correlate and find out which resources are slow in its opinion. And it picked some PHP resources out of that. And so it will start sending parallelized requests to these resources and measure whether some service degradation happened. And it will output what was the original measurements and what were the new ones. So by looking at these deltas, you can figure out whether this is truly CPU heavy resource or not. So now a bit about this asynchronous nature. So this slide shows three screens. The top one is the top utility output of the web server. The bottom right one is the client. So you can notice that the client has about nine, nine and a half percent CPU usage and this is mostly because of the recording software. And the server has zero. So on the bottom left, I'm launching the tool five times to request the most heavy resources. And the load on the client side, it was nine, it goes up to nine and a half percent. So negligible. But the load on the server side goes up to 80, 82 percent which is asynchronous in my book. So this concludes the demo. Now that we saw the tool, let's talk about what can be done with it. You can use it for the good of the humanity. As a QA tool, for example, or to figure out if you are vulnerable to attacks described a minute ago. By just going in and taking all those CPU hogs and debugging them or getting rid of them, rewriting them. Or you can use it for bad. Which is almost what Tigran showed two minutes ago where he paralyzes the worst resources and tries to see if degradation happens.   So that is what we have right now. And what we were thinking of on adding on the tool or method is a couple of tweaks. One would be the measurement of degradation, more precise measurement of degradation in parallel testing which will go into nuances like understanding load balancers.  Those things need to be worked out. Then we have a couple of other things that would be nice to add like a SQL white card, injection into forms that we think are search forms are in any way are fed to SQL query. And then another thing would be figuring out if state reset is pricey to see if when you are forcing an application to generate new tokens for session ID or whatever, it takes any CPU load. That has to be calculated, estimated, or guessed, or doctored. So now let's talk about defense. What can be done on the defense side? Load balancers are probably good measure here. Our guess would be non-sticky mode would work here. And of course use the tool or similar tools to identify and fix memory, DB, CPU, hogs, make your application work smoother and be less vulnerable to this attack. And a slide deck has a reference number one which has a link to a very simple mode security setup that most probably going to cover 90% of cases. It's bound down by some other guys but we find it's effective. And then there is one more thing that Tigran thinks can be done. So I'm lazy, right? If I can offload something to the computer I prefer that. So the idea here is to design a mode security extension that will keep in track of the website usage, meaning it will keep track of what resources, the chain of resources that was requested, the response times that were witnessed and all that. And it will track and tag out of place requests. For example, if a resource is requested all the time through some chain of events and this resource is requested immediately that would warrant some special consideration. Same goes for state coherence checks where a resource is always requested with some state and now a request comes in without a state. That's an indication to pay some close attention to that as well. So yeah, with that we thank you. We are in time. Thank you very much. Thanks to Sean for setting up the lab for us.


The clock and we're going live. We are going live I did not go this morning guys, we just let people come on as they come on As we were saying often is a great taco slash brewery slash tech that slash and you know But um Now guys, so Let some folks jump in as we get started, but As you guys know my channel here Entrepreneur strategies Always looking and learning and trying to teach and share what I do as you all know never financial advice. It's always Projects that I'm in whether it be real estate investment Scenes at the print shop, but today we have an opportunity to bring my buddy Chris on who I Let him tell you guys a little bit about himself and kind of his background Just kind of what you've done where you've been what you've seen and then we can get into More of what we're here sharing with folks today. So Chris take it away. All right, so I'm Chris I'm the other Chris spelled different Known Chris with an H a long time So I actually in real life IRL outside of the crypto world I actually am an information security engineer slash information security officer for Some small companies In one big company I do the engineering for so security wise I Happen to kind of know what's going on with it Crypto wise I've been playing with cryptocurrencies since probably I don't know 2012 Seriously since like maybe 2018 I've mined them before I've you know traded them I've looked at all the smart contracts and the real world uses of the blockchain So I'm into intimately familiar with how most of it works. Of course. I do learn something new every day It's uh, it's it's literally like the space program of the sixties Every day. There's something new. There's there's there's some new cryptocurrency. There's some new Contract out there. It's doing something. So Again, what we're going to talk about today is drip, right? Um, I I love drip. I'm pretty sure Chris loves drip Uh, it's it's a you know, it's an acronym for dividend reinvestment program Yeah, right. Um, it's most likened though. It is not it is most likened to a high yield certificate of deposit Right, like you would get at a bank, but no bank is going to pay you 1 of that, right? So, um, the 1 of day is magic and for instance, if I put a hundred dollars in And I pull out 1 of day Uh, technically I could do that and have you know Before the taxation structure, which we'll talk about later 465 dollars, right? So that sounds great. I mean nobody's going to pay you 365 percent annual percentage rate But that's not really where the magic is the magic is where you can every day say, well, I'm going to take that 1 percent I want to compound it Okay, and I can just keep compounding it until I get to a point where I can let's say take out $100 a day or $200 a day or $2,000 a day kind of want how much you start with so and and you know, and that's why they call it drip because Any one wallet or one person that can only take out 1 percent per day Okay And again, there's taxes that come out the taxation structure is what keeps it liquid Right, so um, and we'll talk about that a little bit Yeah, so not to cut you off But rewind a little bit because I'm sure some people that are watching this They might not comprehend what dividend reinvest means Is your definition So so dividend in the stock world You know dividend reinvestment is let's say I I actually own Campbell's soup stock, right? I love it. I call it the soup. It's a it's a It's a great indicator of how the world is going because the world's going bad people buy soup stocks When the world's going good, they don't really like soup stocks, but Campbell's pays a dividend right every quarter They pay 40 cents a share. So if I have 200 shares of it, I get $80 every quarter If a dividend reinvestment Says when I get that $80, I'm going to buy two more shares at $40 each of Campbell's soup, right So the next time that at the next quarter I get A dividend reinvestment. I get two more shares worth of dividends Okay, and when I get that I'm going to reinvest and buy I take that by two In some chain shares This time so it's it's kind of like a compounding simple interest Right dividends is kind of in the stock world where you know, you own a stock and they pay you dividends as part of their profits Goes back to their shareholders It's easier to think of drip like a certificate deposit where You earn let's say you have a regular old savings account You earn 1% a year if you're earning 1% your savings account That's probably pretty good right now. Although I think that will go up Um, if I have a hundred dollars, I will earn $1 a year. So after year one, I have a hundred and one dollars Right year two, I will earn that same 1% again except on 101 dollars So I will have one dollar and one cent at the end of the year extra. So I'll have 102 oh one So it's going up. So what I earn Is compounded Every year what drip does is if you look at the same thing as it does 1% It compounds daily Now some questions maybe doesn't do that automatically and it just happened now, right? There's there's there's always catches involved Right. So so you have to go in every day and they call the drip They had this whole um This whole kind of persona with the drip right while the drip means dividend reinvestment program It kind of had this whole water theme going on, right? So you have a faucet and you have a reservoir and you have um Um The swap the the swap, right? That's the faucet. I think and then the fountain. Sorry Um, so the fountain is where that that occurs.  Which is which is their term for compounding So basically what you do is you take what you've earned the previous day and you attack it onto your principal So the next day you're now earning that 1% on that increased principle So, um, it's it's pretty powerful because it's it's very slow at first Right, it looks like it's like, uh, you know, I'm making I'm making a dollar a day on my hundred dollar investment, right? And you know, and there is a transaction fee because this is all the blockchain Let's let's get a couple things out of the way too everything you do in the blockchain involves a transaction fee, right? Now This is all done on what they call the finance smart chain We don't need to know much about that other than that's where it occurs and the transaction fees on that are pretty relatively low for what we're doing Um, so they run anywhere from I don't know 50 cents to 80 cents of transaction Right. Well, that's what kind of what you seem to right chris. I mean it's it varies a little bit But it's always below a dollar So if you've only got a hundred dollars invested in drip and you compound that 1% deal You're going to kind of eat up most of that in both the taxes and transaction fees So but for for right now, we're not going to talk about taxes or transaction fees We're going to use the hundred dollars as the uh, the example to make it easy, right? of course, so You're you're doing then to let's not think about tax or fees. So I put a hundred dollars into Uh, your buddy address, which we're actually in this video description. We're going to put the our buddy address below Um for folks that are interested and we can kind of walk you through it But so let's say hundred dollars a day. I earned a daily compound of 1% so Today I put in a hundred Tomorrow I get to do what's called rehydrate. So I now rehydrate my Earned dripped for that day that previous 24 hours. So now tomorrow when I rehydrate Minus any fees and transactions. I should have around 101 dollars that I'll be rehydrating into the system Right. So that's compounded daily And that is up to three hundred and sixty five percent Return on your initial deposit drip Yeah, so here's the the the kicker with the 365 percent is is the The rules in the in the smart contract that runs the whole drip infrastructure is you can withdraw Right 1% That you can withdraw that 1% and they call that claiming right or 365 times Right, you can rehydrate as much as you want Yep, right. So because that kind of keeps everything liquid keeps it all in the system um So so the the strategy here is is we want to rehydrate until we get a nice You know number where we can take a daily poll that makes it valuable So if you were to rehydrate for a year technically, I want to say the actual annual percentage, right? You get is like 3650 right realize So and those are really for illustration purposes only because it doesn't take into account the transaction fees and the taxes, right? The transaction fees that's what keeps the blockchain running that it runs on the the taxes and such that's what pays everybody in the pool right so And there's also a reservoir that means take maintains what they call liquidity pool This is way more advanced than what we want to talk about but that liquidity pool is kind of what's in the background Maintaining the price of drip, right? So, you know what kind of the the barriers that most people see with this is well Where do I what do I put my hundred dollars to get started, right? Well, you don't just actually put a hundred dollars in right? We need to buy Buy a hundred dollars worth of buy-nance coin bnb is its symbol, right? And then we need to take that buy-nance coin and we need to go under the drip faucet The faucet the faucet and and buy Yeah, let me just pull up. Yeah pull that out But I think the faucet and fountain confused and I've been using it for a while right All right, so here we are on on the front page. So if you look here in the top you have the swap So this is where what chris was just saying and if you want to walk through this so Once they've gone and purchased the bnb, which is the buy-nance coin They would now send their buy-nance coin Over to what's called a metamask wallet, which is what you're going to need Right. I don't want to describe too many features to convince anybody But in theory, let's say we now have all that set up So we want to go in here and buy drip first, correct? Right. Well, so yeah, so what what we're trying to do is buy drip, right drip is a Cryptocurrency token it is the foundation by which this whole drip network runs, right? And the drip dot community website is where it all happens And behind that is a is what they call a smart contract that has all the rules in place, you know, how you compound How much you can pull per day? You know And you know people will be look at this and go well, what's to stop somebody from pulling all that drip out? Well, the smart contracts wants to stop it right once that thing is locked in It can't be edited. It's what they call immutable. That's kind of the beauty of the blockchain is once the transaction goes on on there It is 100 certifiably verifiable and it's what they call immutable, which means it's unchangeable Right that has gone down in history because if you were to change it you break the chain Right the block chains each block relies on on, you know The one before the one after in a link if you break that link it screws everything up So it doesn't allow you to do that Kind of the quick lesson on the blockchain that runs it So what you're going to do is you're going to you know, there'll be pieces and and we we can go over this in other videos and such And we'll walk it through Getting your dollar into drip, right and we have a complete set of written instructions. It talks about the metamask wallet And you know buying, you know buying the ins and easier ways to get it You know because there's some late times when you deposit dollar funds into these exchanges What have you so again buying it seems to be the the currency that is how you purchase the drip So once you have buying it in your metamask wallet, you kind of go into the drip fountain and you buy it I'm sorry on the faucet there and then you deposit it into into your Faucet now that's where the taxes start to come in and again We can go over this or this is just kind of an introduction on the 1% So we don't want to go too in depth on the on the 10% taxation structure and and all that fun stuff Right.  You kind of get the the water theme everywhere in here so And that'll show you what's your what's on deposit Is what you're earning the interest on this right now Yep, what's on deposit what you're in then you're available is what what you've earned since the last time you hydrated Right. That's right to the left And then the claimed is the amount you've either hydrated or pulled out They're both they're both considered claims when you hydrate however You claim it and put it back in on deposits so that you earn 1% on a bigger number Right and all these figures are in drip in the big and they'll show you u.s. Dollar The t means tether, but that's a a different cryptocurrency. It's pegged to a dollar. So that is one to one exactly what The value is in u.s. Dollars so So, you know, we'll get the referral awards and max payout and teams in a different session Uh, yeah, I mean just just to touch on that um drip Allows you to earn in multiple ways And we're going to do a series of different videos Moving forward on what the referral rewards are how they work You know what you have to have To be able to earn those rewards shall I say? um but this being more of a introductory to it to understand compounding interest in which you're going to Put in whatever you want to put in and I was actually I was trying to Let me Unshare this for a second. I was trying to find A calculator that I had used just to kind of give people a reference point as to the potential Of what this can do Yeah, well here. I'm gonna go ahead and see I can share the drip calculator I have. All right. There you go That's perfect slide share screen And you can share just that window then I want to share your little computer There sure It's gonna it's gonna want to be to share the screen, but that's okay. Okay Oh, you're right window. Gotcha All right, let's go start here and then we're gonna flip over here You see that? Okay Yep So this is this looks very complicated and it's it's pretty large and but it kind of gives you an idea, right? So let's say instance that we want to start with 10 drip at the current price right now. Last time I checked it was like $82. I'm gonna go ahead and change that down here We'll just call that $82 We're gonna put you know, roughly $820 in now Taxation wise we're just gonna go with 820. We'll talk about taxation later You'd actually have to deposit a little more than that to get to 10 drip. But let's just say we're gonna put 10 drip it, right? Yep um What's the ratio on on the faucet mr. Burke? Let me see Just give me like first four after decimal point I'm not logged into my account Sorry On my other system 0.204 bnb to drip okay 0.204 That's better. That gives us a drip price about 82 bucks. Yep. No, okay You happen to be in right the bnb ratio. So that that's all done So we're assuming that we're gonna hydrate every 24 hours, right? You can do it every 12 hours Or every hour the problem is the transaction fees start to eat away at what you're earning So you do earn a little more doing it every 12 hours. Um, I know chris and I do it every 24 So The the little bit extra does not does not equate to us having to go in there twice a day and do it so Anyway, so at 10 as you can see right, um And we'll talk drip versus dollars as well Right, so on a zero when you deposit you have 10 drip Okay, with a with roughly a $820 value right in us. Do you have not claimed any? Okay on day one. Let me highlight day one's realm, right You know your your daily interest between day zero and day one will be eight dollars and 20 cents, right? That is one percent So we're gonna assume you re hydrate every day Okay, there's a tax of five percent tax on the re hydrate. So you won't see exact One percent here. You'll see point nine five percent Right. So what you'll see is it deposits into your available drip, right? We see there's the nine five I spoke of right there. You can see my cursor. Okay And you've spent point o two because we set it at point o two Uh b and b on nutrients actions, right? So this day you notice now today. It's eight dollars and 28 cents Right because you're earning on the compounded amount Right and at first it looks slow. You're gonna earn eight cents there eight cents there eight eight here eight eight Right eight now it starts to gather up now. It's nine. Okay Um, and it'll start to expand a bit right So at first it looks very slow, but by you know 22 days in now you're making a whole $1.80 more every day All right, and and what you're re hydrating into so Um, and as you go up you can kind of see up here at the top It'll tell you what the value of your one percent re hydration or And in the in the case of it's time to start pulling money out That's about we're all here what you can claim right with this with this 10 drip $820 deposit So in two years if you rehydrated every day less than two years 700 days You can start pulling out $6,000 worth of drip every day Wow Right that's 700 days now. You know, we we never started this stream saying oh, we're gonna This is gonna be a get rich quick thing right in 50 days You're gonna be able to pull out $5,000 now in 50 days you could pull out roughly. Let's look at the spreadsheet You could pull out roughly 13 dollars a day Right, right So, you know, it's kind of uh, it's definitely a cumulative thing but The higher the numbers get the faster the numbers grow And this spreadsheet also gives you the ability to say, okay. I really like this drip. I've been doing it for 30 days I'm I like the rehydration. I see it growing at day 31. I want to deposit 10 more drip it Right. So every month I'm going to try and put $820 into this Now watch what happens on the right hand side when you add that right boom Now you're making it on that cumulative amount And you'll notice up top here too in the at the 700 days. It's now $10,000 So the best strategy we we've talked about, you know, chris and I've talked about this too is Let's figure out how much we want to pull out a day, you know If you could pull out 1500 bucks a day That would be probably life changing for most people, right? That's a that's a really great salary By the way, this isn't pulling it out every work day Right every week day. This is pulling it out every day. Okay for 365 days straight So, um, you know, so you look at let's say after 500 days or even 400 600 a day might be life changing for people That's 180,000 You know a little more than 180,000 a year before the taxation we we're going to talk about, right? Um, so that's a you know, that's a salary, you know, that's a pretty good salary Right, so You know, so what you're looking at is okay at 400 days. I could be pulling that out All right Well, let's say, you know, I want to I want to pull it out 1500 and I'd like to do it in 400 days Well, I'm going to add if I add what you know, what happens if we're placing what ifs Day 61 here, right every 30 days. I'm going to put in another 10 Watch the the top graph will move up. Okay Um, so now at 400 days, I'm going to pull 780. All right. Let's see what happens if I put another 10 in 90 days And again, you're not increasing what you can ultimately pull out what you're increasing is At at what speed can you get to the point at what you want to pull something out? Right. Yeah, do that again now. We're almost at a thousand dollars at 400 days Right, so You know, that's a little over a year and you can pull out, you know, pretty much a 365 thousand dollar a year salary Before taxes. Yep So, you know, you kind of see how just, you know, it's kind of what they call a dollar cost averaging and kind of see that Um, where you say buy and deposit more drip every time right Here in the google sheet And in our drip discord, we have this sheet available We also have an instruction seat set up to um Walk you through getting it from dollar to drip So it's while it's it's a little in-depth. It takes a little bit of time. It's definitely worth it in the end So anyway, go back to the dollar cost averaging. That's kind of what you're doing here You're buying the drip and when I say 10 drip, it may be 820 dollars If drips 120 dollars, it may be 1200 dollars because drip is a cryptocurrency and it does fluctuate Right. It's been on a pretty steady increase over the past year um On a nice, you know, a nice smooth transition up. It's not it's not real choppy So but just like everything else in the world, you know, it fluctuates with, you know, global things such as, you know Countries invading other countries and such which shockwaves your market. So Yeah, but it's only down to 80 bucks as opposed to You know, um other things so again dollar cost averaging kind of circumvents that you buy it when you know You just give yourself on an investment plan if you want to speed that up and and again this 10 dollar or this 10 drip Deposit every 30 days just an example.  So yeah No, and I mean full disclosure chris and I obviously this is not financial advice. Um, but I've had people ask and the easiest answer I've given them so they say well chris If I deposit drip When can I take my money back out? And my simple response and I'll ask your response as well as The way you get your money back Is 1% A day Right come And I don't want to make it sound too difficult, but When you buy drip You bought drip Right the only way to get whatever you bought back is 1% a day compounded right Right In you kind of think of it this way, um, if you're very, you know, we didn't really talk about risk tolerance any kind of investing Right, you have to have some risk tolerance whether you're buying Campbell soup Which is a low risk investment camels have been around for over hundreds on years They've paid a dividend since oh, I don't know and it's pretty consistent It does fluctuate up and down with the economy, but people always need to buy soup, right? So People will always buy soup no matter what the economy is so it stays pretty consistent That's a low risk investment, right? You're not putting your money at a very great risk If you are trading cryptocurrencies on the open market or you're buying NFTs, which chris and I also do That's a high risk investment, right? It could go to zero and be worthless in the blink of an eye Yeah, um, this is kind of in the crypto world. This is considered a low risk investment in the general overall Investment world I would consider this a medium risk investment, right? It's still cryptocurrency I wouldn't I wouldn't rank any cryptocurrency investment as less than a medium investment But in the crypto realm, this is kind of low risk So that being said if you're really risk averse and you're like I want to get my money back out as fast as possible and in doing that I want to you know, once I'm paid back. I'm good to let it ride forever You could start on day one and take out that 1% It would take you roughly about 120 days to pay yourself back Which leaves you 245 days to withdraw earnings So you could keep going for another 245 days and you would make roughly 365 percent earnings I want you to pause it a lot of people are fine with that and and that is fine as well I mean, we're not gonna we're not gonna knock you for making 365 percent The real power drip lies in the compounding now um, you know being able to compound that up and You know be able to take out life changing money later not that you know If you invested $10,000 in the drip and you could take out, you know, roughly about You know 400 that are 400 $40,000. That's a pretty darn good return on the investment, too Again, you're risking $10,000 Yeah, because we don't know what drip's gonna do in the long run. It's been pretty consistent for about a year now though So I mean we've had it for a while. Yeah, I mean it's like I don't want to say it's like any investment, but it's like any investment So when the when when this when this when this protocol was introduced not even a year ago It was uh april something of 2021 Drip was at $32. Yeah In the equivalent, you know, it's gone up as much as 160 dollars per drip, right? And I'll give you guys a perfect example Um, I currently have two different wallets invested in drip One of them is a small dollar amount. One of them is much larger Even though the prices of drip is down from when I bought it I'm still compounding 1% a day On both accounts, right? So I really don't In drip. I'm kind of on drip. Correct. Right. There is a dollar equivalent But if it returns back up or a but we've even talked about and I don't even take this in the account when I think about the returns Is if I bought it at 80 Okay, and when I go to start pulling it out it's 120 I've got a 50% gain just in the cryptocurrency price alone Right not not counting what I'm compounding overall this time, right? So that's there is that as well Right. So and on the flip side if you go down to 40 Right and you would lose 50% but um, that's that's not consistently been what it is and and if you don't like it You can always leave it there until it comes up, right and keep your compound. Oh, it's at $100. I'm comfortable So I bought it 100 so whatever I've computed on that spreadsheet is exactly what I should be giving, right? So again the figures we quote are based on On um, very standard and consistent numbers and that's not really how the crypto Uh ecosystem works, but in drip. It's it's pretty fairly consistent and solid Which you will always make 1% Of the drip you have on deposit Correct, right? No, and I just flashed it up there um For those of you that are even interested or have more questions if no one has questions on here Join our discord like we're transparent as can be We're not in there selling anything Uh chris will probably tell you just like I I hope that you see this opportunity, but it's not for everybody And you know all we're doing is trying to determine what we're doing and we see a project with this protocol called drip It makes sense. Um their community mostly lives on, um Telegram I don't have telegram because I'm on my phone all day But uh, there are some other channels on youtube, you know, take a look around that actually rebroadcast So like when the the developers are having what's called a AMA or ask me anything episode There's a couple other youtube channels that actually broadcast Uh, they're telegram live. So I found in the last two weeks Since I've been in this project it's great information and I can keep working and that That brand, you know, go and I learned from it. Um, you know, and you know, I've said to chris that uh The mind of the developer of this project I don't know how they think about it, but I don't want to get too detailed because I think to do a few but can you kind of give them a 50 000 square foot view of what deflationary means because most projects like this most investment platforms are based on You know centralized banks and it has to be inflationary to gain from it So can you give them like a synopsis of deflationary? Yeah, so right now when you go to the gas pump when you go to the grocery store when you go just about anywhere You're seeing what's called inflationary because federal government and the fed can print Coins tokens currency, whatever you want to call it, right? We call it in the crypto world fiat currency Um, we would we would do away with all if we could the only problem is is that's how we buy our groceries Our gas our clothes, right? So until we can take cryptocurrency everywhere So inflationary we increase the supply of it. It makes it less valuable, right? Cryptocurrencies also aren't have inflationary tokens, too There are cryptocurrencies out there that are inflationary, right? They will become less valuable the more that is printed especially ones And if you're looking into that ones that don't have a limit to how many are made Bitcoin Has a limit. That's why it becomes more valuable the closer you get to the limit Because once you hit the limit the more of it will be made Right, so in the world of drip what deflationary means is is when you deposit, right your drip It is actually burned and when I what I mean by burn is it sent to what they call a zero address Which reduces the amount of drip in the ecosystem? So you bought it out of the ecosystem and you've burned it, right? Now that doesn't mean it's it's gone away, but to you it's gone away Like you could never pull your initial investment out, right? You can only pull one percent out of debt, right? This is great for a couple of reasons one the deflationary mechanisms Make the drip more scarce by making the drip more scarce It either keeps the value stable or increases it every time. Okay That's the true deflationary the other thing about it being burned and being able to not allow you to take that initial deposit out Is because as that deposit grows nobody can drain that drip pool Right or that reservoir of drip, right? You can only take out one percent of a time at a time like out of a drip out of a faucet Now maybe you kind of see the the the analogy that they're trying to get right you could take a drip now that drip may be $5,000 worth of drip a day, right? That's great. I will take $5,000 a day all day long You know for 365 days absolutely somewhere in the midst of that 365 days I'm going to start another drip wallet so that you know when I'm done with this one I'm going to start collecting again. I'm going to pay myself, right? That's going to be my retirement so again The deflationary aspects keep it stable It's one of and you know the guy's name that created this is called forex shark and forex I don't know if you know it's called foreign exchange. It's the money exchange system So I imagine he did a lot of studying in the forex markets Inflationary deflationary and all that when I mean he sat down and did the math the taxation system With the inflationary aspect of the token Both of those kind of make this thing very much sustainable I think chris had looked up that if if nobody else joined drip No more drip tokens were bought that they would continue to pay out the 1% Okay for three years Before the before it was empty so That's pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing. So you'll kind of you kind of get the the hang of this and You know again, it's kind of just been an introduction to it if you're interested definitely want to reach out to us We can get you started First thing to do is absolutely join the the drip discord. It's called drip drip drop and You know, we're gonna start putting more stuff We have some tools up there already a link to that new sheet that I showed earlier You can make your own copy and play with your own figures to see what you want to invest Um, and there's a there's a step by step How to get your dollar to drip is as we kind of call it right how to take the dollars in my bank account I want to invest whatever dollars. How do I get into this this drip game, right? Yeah, I think it's It's gonna be a little nerve wracking for new people to the space But I also think it's worth it. So, you know, if you want to join our community on discord We're gonna be broadcasting, you know different live sessions on youtube You can always go back like to this video and watch chris go through that calculator Because it took me a couple times and I you know, I'm not a genius, but I'm I'm pretty smart, you know And I learned pretty quick But there are steps that are gonna make it a little frustrating. It's not hard. You just have to understand the steps That's all it is Yeah, and really just like any other crypto. There's a lot of exchanging going on. Correct, right? There's a lot of exchanging everybody This is like any other new thing everybody at every turn When when money changes hands, right or money changes types in this guy.  And it's the fees and the blockchain and stuff and and eventually as this becomes more mainstream Those fees will become less The finance smart chain has very low fees. There's some other ones like Avalanche, which is a different smart chain, right? blockchain where With its own currency have pretty reasonable transaction fees ethereum often gets dinged because It has high transaction fees. Yeah, it's the one that most everybody uses and it's worth, you know It's pretty valuable for it. It has not only high transaction fees. They fluctuate They do it's like I use the reference and I watched a video recently And it was around like 1999 2000 Because the world was about to be ended Because of the internet Right And I remember I remember sitting at a computer and I actually I've known chris this long He and I were working on a web development projects on dial-up Yeah Logging into aol and you're sitting there waiting your first of all you were jamming up your telephone You had you could you had to have a separate line just for your aol account You know, just imagine 20 years ago Everyone thought the world was going to end because this big bad demon called the internet came out, right? Where are we now? We have internet in our pocket Right, we have the internet in our pocket Exactly high speed internet 5g in our pockets, you know, so I think The crypto spaces give or take 10 11 years old And just think about how many people you know and how many people we know that know nothing about it So we are to my to my understanding and my belief We know more than anybody else But there are people that know a lot more than us And 99 of other people have no idea what we're talking about, right? That's how early this is It's a very early opportunity. I have to echo that and that's you know, I'm glad we kind of I've been reading about it for four months before I jumped in so I looked at all and I still learned some new stuff jumping in Luckily, we kind of worked all that out for the folks who are new to it It'll be a lot easier transition for you than it was for us Yeah, you know mistakes for me money was spent, you know, you could thank us for that later No, I mean, but like if you don't know you just don't know and you don't know Yeah, I mean you understand contracts more than I understand contracts, right? So I would I would take your knowledge and then go do my research I think everyone who watches this video and all of our videos. Please go do your own research Yes, right. That's that's the key to it because if you don't understand it and if you don't You know continue to Expand what you're learning in that space It's gonna not be worth your time like we're not trying to get you to sign up so we can make money I don't really care if you sign up or not, right? I think it's cool. It makes sense. The tokenomics are there The contract makes sense now I'm watching my deli hydrates Continue day after day after day after day It's consistent. It's consistent and then the math makes sense, right? So chris, I thank you man. We're coming up on almost almost 45 minutes here Anything else you want anybody to know learn? Obviously jump in our discord. We're in there The discord yeah jump in discord.  Yeah And feel free to reach out. I mean especially to discord I'm gn lover in the discord and chris is chris b in the chris b on the discord So yeah feel free to you know jump out ask us questions Um, you know, we can we have step by step We can help walk you through it from dollar to drip and then I can walk you through in my You know one of my wallets and show you what it looks like and we don't mind and you know again, you know full disclosure This is parts part of this is a team building thing too. So, you know, we anybody that joins We'd love you to become part of our team. There are perks to that right things like this Although, you know be part of our team to enjoy, you know our our chat and banter on here or be part of our discord Although we would greatly appreciate that The the perks of doing it though is at certain levels when you reach certain amounts of Drip on deposit. There'll be air drops to you, right? So all of a sudden free drip will show up in your account Right, maybe a tent and maybe a whole drip, you know The beautiful thing of that is it didn't cost you anything and oh by the way, you're earning your 1% now on that as well So Compounding free drip from Yes Free drip is always nice. So and again and you may think uh-oh I hear it comes, you know, there's there's a team thing I gotta build you know, you don't have to build team. You don't want to do that You don't have to if you want to do that. Let us know and we'll show you how to do that too There's some there's some caveats to that as well You know that we've learned and then doing it You know some things you have to hold there's some things you have to do You have to have at least 10 drip in the wallet that is your your team Lead so But again, we can walk you through all that too and and make sure you don't make any of the mistakes that we made playing around with it So um Which is good, you know, we're we're gonna save you some money We've spent a little bit to figure out all the caveats. So So that's really all I have and thanks for doing it Well as like a true youtube I have you mentioned don't forget to like this video, you know subscribe to my channel You'll get updates when chris and i by We're probably gonna be adding these videos into the discord as well. We'll create a channel in there So like when we start doing a training session on How to set up bnb how to convert it to or send it to your metamask We're gonna, you know, keep this content rolling. So it'll it'll kind of be in the community as well as on youtube So without that chris, I appreciate all your knowledge and Expertise in this space and I hope everyone Enjoys this and rewinds it And yes, your mind is going to be a little bit scattered because It took us a little bit of time, but this this project is There's something I'm really looking forward to. Yeah, it's definitely a jet. It's it's pretty good Yeah, cool, man It excited me enough to get on youtube with you. There you go All right guys. See you soon