Fantastic and a warm welcome to why in the morning you're still watching hashtag why in the morning right here with me Brian Sakua and still remember you can still chime in using our hashtag which is why in the morning and we had asked your question a little bit earlier on before that we asked how much do you spend in a day and on what exactly keep your feedback coming by the way with the reading your feedback at the tail end of this broadcast at 1-2-5-4 channel is our social media platforms remember on Instagram there's an underscore and mine is at Brian Sakua 101 now on our segment entrepreneurship Tuesday today we are talking about car dealership how do you venture into it and if you if you are planning maybe to buy a car out there what are some of the policies the government has put in place that regulate the industry and maybe if you want to maybe partner with someone who is in the space we've got you right about now and joining me right now on set is a guy you'll you'll be interested to know us the show goes on he goes by the name Khalif Cairo and good morning to you bro thank you so much for joining us today thank you I'm privileged to be on this show yeah it's a blessing and I just like it to introduce yourself and maybe tell us what you do because I understand you're in the car dealership business and it's such an interesting field and it's massive as well my name is Khalif Cairo I'm the co-founder imports back arrow which is leading luxury car dealership in Kenya and essentially what we do is we help people buy and sell luxury cars and that also entails importation and maintenance after sale support that kind of stuff interesting interesting you spoke of importation because it's it's like one of the major parts in that business because half of the cars actually having in our country are from overseas yes and just in case somebody who is watching this show right now and they want to venture into that business like how do they go about and where do they start well I normally advise people before you go into any business you need to you need to have a passion for that particular field okay because passion is what keeps you going when your business is not making money and you know entrepreneurship if you ask me it's a journey of sorts and at times things are not typically well cut so first of all you need you need to have a passion for vehicles you need to actually enjoy doing the job and I normally tell people money should not be your primary concern initially you should first do it as a hobby or for fun and then once you feel like I understand this industry very well then you can now go to the serious aspect of it which includes understanding your target market knowing what products you can be able to push and basically just trying now to make money yeah yeah interesting you mentioned the aspect of money and before we come back to money yeah I basically love to know how you venture into car dealership how you got started what did you start how is the journey which year did you begin to venture into that business as well I started off at when when I was 18 been dealing cars since I was 18 right after I finished my high school I happened to get a job at a showroom in in Lovington actually Tamak and just in New York I wanted to sell cars always had a passion for cars yeah so these guys actually gave me a job surprisingly everybody was shocked and then I'm the showroom was called ocean crossovers so I work for those guys for like that was in valley arcade just right next to the Kenya Human Rights Commission opposite yeah so I started off there land the trade build some networks and I and after some time I left I left ocean cross and they went freelance yeah and then fast forward some many years of those some five years later I partnered up with a friend and we we founded Imports Bekero yeah yeah and I want us to come back to money because when you mentioned that you begin with first of all passion and hobby yeah but later on things started opening up yes yes your business is now like one of the biggest in in the car dealership industry yeah what what where did all that come from because I believe you said you employed first yeah as an attendant yes yeah how did that happen okay first of all as I've mentioned you you really need to be disciplined in anything you're doing because I normally tell guys if you want to go into big business even the richest guys on earth they have to get financed someone has to finance you you need to get an investor or a partner who has who has the financial muscle and in most cases what determines whether you get investors or even a bank loan is how disciplined are you can you be trusted with money can people work with you you know those are those are some of the aspects and then for me I also credit God for playing a very huge role in my life you know just keeping me in line keeping me in check ensuring that we play by the rules yeah just be a good boy and then things tend to open up by the way and once you passionate and you understand a certain field very well there's so many people there's so many firms that will want to invest in you as a young person you just need to get your stuff right yeah yeah I understand you have quite a number of stuff at your place and what is the criteria may be used to select the professionally to come to to come on board to work at your car dealership company well our company does not have in terms of our academics that is we don't have a clear cut standard that I'd say that maybe you need to have a certain degree in a certain field what we look for because I'm not in charge of the hiring process we have a whole team it's a whole company is another director and there's there's a department that normally handles the hiring but if you're getting hired at Imports Bequero we are probably looking at how passionate are you and how knowledgeable are you with cars there are things you can't really quantify and even even the confidence because you know if you're selling luxury cars it's all about personal selling you need to be able to convince a client to pat with their head and money on an expensive car so we look at how good these are candidates presentation skills how how well vast are you with the vehicles and if you're not vast with vehicles because some even the guys I work with some of them are not well vast with vehicles how passionate are you about learning yeah yeah do you have that extra drive you know yeah so you come as an open canvas and yeah that's possibly means that you can take the person to a learning process you can learn about your business and you have a website where maybe yes people can read about it as we continue the conversation yes you can head over to importsbequero.com okay yeah you can check out our website we normally list all the cars over there okay yeah interesting and then let's talk about money do you feel as an entrepreneur as a car dealer that you must have a good and we had mentioned that earlier how how much are you trustable when with the small list that you've been given how is your relationship with money is money attracted to you do you attract money that's quite an interesting question yeah I think we have a good relationship with money yeah I mean well it all depends on how you present yourself okay if you I'm a fan believer that if you struggle to look for money you'll never find it please explain please explain just do your thing that's what I tell people just do your thing yeah be good at whatever you're doing let money not be the primary objective you know money comes and goes they're going to make money they're going to score billions in a lottery but five years down the line the guy is broke or something but if you if you get it by by passion you get it by discipline and you have an objective that is not money but the money just finds you because you'll become so good at your craft that people will pay huge money just to just be a part of your brand yeah you understand yeah but that doesn't come if you put emphasis on the money you just need to first work on yourself work on your brand I I still don't believe I'm at the money level I'd want to be yeah but you see my focus at the moment is not getting the money just becoming the best in the country or the best in Africa or maybe the best in the world and then after that once you solve a few problems in the industry the money just rolls in automatically yeah yeah absolutely interesting and we can't have this conversation without talking about the pandemic the COVID-19 pandemic yes I'm interested to know what happened when the pandemic struck like just take us to that experience of how it shaped your company and even personally yourself as an individual and how it is right now I'd say we are almost heading to the post pandemic we are almost in the recovery period yes yeah so please take us to that experience actually we started our office we actually founded imports in 2017 but you never had an office we used to mostly operate on a Facebook page it was very funny those days but we finally got an address we actually set up the company properly formally with all the documentation and an address in 2020 January and then once we paid the deposits for the office the pandemic came for me I'd say the pandemic was a blessing in this case wow yeah how because because a lot of people affected businesses shut down employees employers sent employees home they cut down on the number of staff there was the issue of pay cuts please how is it a blessing to you because it's interesting right because it helped us to think outside the box wow okay at that particular moment you remember the country was shut down and we the industry the kind industry guys had to think about how we were going to do our marketing because before then we really had to rely on insta purchases where a guy has to see a showroom by the road and then walks in comes and selects a car but you see now the pandemic changed that guys couldn't move and we had to go heavy on on Instagram personally I started spending more time learning how to make reels learning how to post content on Instagram and I believe it's partly that the pandemic is one of the reasons why we have such a good presence online because we had to think outside the box to get clients so does that shift yes from the traditional way of doing your things in a company to digital yeah but on the flip side because also there's also the negative aspect of the pandemic shipping costs have gone up which is which is putting a lot of pressure on car dealers in Kenya in the world and then we also experience in a brand new car shortage globally which is pushing prices of the used cars up because if guys can get brand new cars they never they'll never replace the cars they're driving which means we get limited vehicles in the market yeah so there's also there's the issue of inflation inflation yeah as the as the economy is a start to research remember government spent a lot of money during the pandemic on welfare so there's too much money in circulation which causes inflation then there's the shipping crisis that's currently going on and then there's the vehicle shortage but on on the good side we learned how to make content which is a good thing yeah it is a good thing because everybody everybody right now wants to at least see something on you yeah and I love the fact that you're also using tiktok and you to be massively picking up and yes yes yes interesting and also talk about how the crisis part you mentioned inflation and the residing in the economy yes how has that affected also your business in terms of even importation of some of the of the machines that you've got at your yard well currently the dollar is trading at around on paper if you ask the central bank they'll tell you 118 but in real sense if you come to the ground guys are even quoting as high as 122 123 take note before the pandemic the dollar used to exchange at around a hundred shillings yeah so that's that's quite a marginal increase yeah and it's it's the fact that there's so much pressure on the ceiling and not just the ceiling even other currencies around the world yeah it makes it harder to purchase the cars because you see the cars are bought in dollars when we are transacting let's say with a dealer in Singapore we tend to transact even they don't even prefer their local currency they prefer transaction with the dollar is that is that reason as to why maybe they prefer the dollar well you know that the dollar is king everywhere I think I've never really understood why even in Japan they don't prefer they and they'll insist on you paying with the dollar yeah so I've never I've never really thought about why they insist on that but I think probably people find the dollar to be a more stable currency yeah and well-backed so the fact that the dollar is very expensive means that the prices of cars have really gone up yeah really really shut up yeah and speaking of that there's a way I think it could be a last year maybe but one the president issued a ban on importation of even second-hand cars although those those are those are low that was implemented and it kind of shook your industry yes how did that go and how did you survive and how was experience from your side as well yeah it was around 2018 or 2019 yeah I think that's in my opinion if you ask me the regime has done an excellent job on roads and whatnot but I think trying to ban used cars in Kenya has to be my lowest point of this but of this particular government I mean for for once I felt like we had people making policies and they didn't understand what what the market really wanted so at that particular point I almost felt like giving up honestly I was almost deciding you know maybe I should switch to doing something else but after a bit of pressure I think they decided to reconsider the CS was moon at a time yes yes yes yes yes moon yeah and then they they did we we had to compromise so recently if you check the news cabs has banned the importation of some of some prime movers and some trucks yeah so those are some of the compromises we we we had to we had to come to with the government because you see even in the most advanced of countries even countries like like Dubai countries like the US even the UK and Singapore yeah even Singapore you you can still import a used car you see you you can't force people to buy new cars it is it is the pocket of people that forces them to buy at the vehicle they want you I can't pass a law if it was the president and tell guys look everybody should buy Mercedes tomorrow it doesn't make sense it goes against the concept of our free economy the least the government can do is is actually empower us because used car dealers pay a lot of taxes in this country we employ a lot of people yeah so when when when then the government tries to fight you it's very demoralizing to any young person yeah yeah and and and how do you import cars especially maybe for person who is watching back at home and they want to just know if I want to maybe even partner with Calif Cairo imports by car or the name of your business how do I start to like go down in that direction maybe even in terms of the legal aspect of it yeah okay well first of all you need you need to have the right contacts on the other side and then I'm it depends you see their cars their cars that are easier to import like for instance the smaller vehicles they're pretty straightforward you know just buy get the invoice send the payment outside and wait for the car to be shipped gets to Mombasa pick your car it's very it's quite straightforward but with but with a with with high-end cars there's more work involved because if you're dealing with a with an expensive asset more checks need to be done you need to be more careful you need to know who you're buying from because some of these some of these cars have very expensive repairs so the advantage dealing with imports back arrow is we have a presence in all the major exporting countries we have people in Japan we have we have people in in Singapore we have a partnership with one of the leading dealerships in the UK so the fact that we have us we have such an extensive global networks means that if you deal with us chances are on 99% chances that we'll get the a very good car and in the event that are vehicle is shipped with a defect we normally cover the cost of the repairs yeah so there's the process just come to our office give us your specifications we will give you a quote yeah pay a deposit which is typically 60% of the buying price of the total landing cost of the vehicle including taxes we start the process the vehicle gets to Mombasa we pay the taxes and we hand over the vehicle to you wow yeah which is amazing yeah and I think on that note we are just about to take a short break but when we come back he'll be telling us what are some of the latest trends and even in technology and in an advancement even in the gearboxing of the cast the body chassis if you're back at home and maybe you want to buy a Porsche or you want to buy an Audi he's gonna be telling us that and even some of the cars in his yard so stick around for that remember hashtag is still why in the morning at Brian Sako 101 is my handle on social media platforms your handle at Impots Bakero alright when you come back we're gonna be delving into that stick around and welcome back once again you're still watching why in the morning right here on Y254 channel and still on the conversation today on entrepreneurship Tuesday we are talking about car dealership literally the automobile industry and whatnot and as we had said earlier on I just want us to actually understand and know if just in case you want to buy a first-class car or like they call it first-class concierge cars how much do you need to have to maybe get yourself a car from Impots Bakero and maybe what are some of the latest cars in his yard and thank you so much for sticking around so please just tell us what is the cheapest car in your yard like just how much does it cost and maybe what model and brand and also tell us the most expensive brand that you've got we the cheapest what's the cheapest we already had a BMW that was going for 800 a 320i e90 model MW yeah you know you know the thing with luxury cars is they don't really command much resell value which is a good thing to any person who's who's interested in getting a used luxury car he thinks just to ensure that you have the support and you know you're buying from a trusted dealer yeah we there's a there's a 320 that's going for around 800 which is a good deal for luxury car and it's in it's still in good condition yeah the most expensive we had a 2020 Range Rover SVR carbon was going for 35 million Kenyan shillings it's still there you still have it no it's already been sold yeah which which are the latest brand from you mentioned Range Rover you mentioned BMW we also stock in our 2020 Porsche Cayenne yeah 2020 Porsche Cayenne we have a 2016 2017 Range Rover Sport we have three Mercedes S-Class 2016 yeah and we also have the only BMW 435 Grand Coupe in Kenya yeah so we import actually stocks we we have an affinity to stock in rare cars a car that you can't find just anywhere else yeah interesting and we can't we can't do this without talking about even the advancement you've talked of the 2020 Porsche is it the Porsche car yeah yeah this is your Porsche Porsche talk a little bit about the gearboxing and even the adaptability on the road what are some of the advantages of even having a Porsche Cayenne and some of these runs well you know this there's a there's a misconception that most of these cars can't handle Kenyan road actually they can they are well German cars are well engineered any European cars those guys know how to make their cars it's only that at times they require they require good make they just require good maintenance but it does not mean that they cannot handle bad roads they're actually very good at handling all the bad roads some of the technological advance advancement we are seeing is the fact that cars are becoming more like phones if you if you go into a 2020 car you notice a lot of touch screens you notice a lot of user-friendly software interfaces you also notice that some can drive themselves and they adapt to your phone very well their technologies like the like it's called the Apple CarPlay the Android Auto that make it quite easy to to to sync your phone with a vehicle and even navigate through drive yeah navigate you able to access your emails from the vehicles infotainment system and what else are we seeing a lot of manufacturers are also switching to electric cars so as we as we go on probably in the next 10 years very few manufacturers will be making petrol cars or diesel cars the world is going electric that's the major trend right now if you look at the most expensive car car manufacturing brands in the world right now you'll find companies like Tesla yeah which didn't even exist 25 years ago but now with the advent of electronic cars they're some of the most expensive brands on earth yeah I understand also your I was just coming through your social media and I've seen you fly a lot yeah you're into aviation yeah yeah flying flying is one of is one of my other passions okay I tell you guys if I if I if I didn't end up as a as a cadilla maybe I'd be flying commercially yeah that will have been the other the other thing I'd have done yeah it's always been my passion since I was a very very small boy yeah there's usually that fear that when you're up there you don't know what's happening down here and let's talk about how that experience is you're flying through the the craziest terrain and maybe yeah how did you survive one of the craziest terrain up there in the skies because you know kids kids would be margin please just paint for us a picture well just okay just just to keep it simple okay there are two ways of flying you can either fly visual or you can fly instruments if you're flying visual you're using you're using visual cues to navigate so if you were to fly visual to let's say Mombasa I'd probably follow the SGR that's a visual cue if I follow it and it takes me to Mombasa again there's and then there's the flying for the big boys the the pure instrument flying where you can't see outside you just rely on your electronic instruments you're just looking at your GPS you're looking at your at your radio navigation instruments so it's actually I find I find we're flying to be quite thrilling to say the least yeah and I don't remember the time that I got scared I only remember one time when we had a small mishap sort of like a ninja in failure during training but it was just it was it wasn't something major that's the only time I got scared but all the other times I find it thrilling so interesting and also talk about some of the policies the government has put in place to ensure that you know importation of cars is flowing well especially for second-hand cars in relationship to the legal bond that had been is previously issued to you have there been any changes so far that you say you'd say they've made progress and things and yes I think one of the one of the most interesting things that that happened in the industry in the past two years was the was the introduction was actually not even the intro was the introduction and the revocation of the licensing for some two inspection companies that that had been contracted by cabs and unclear circumstances as an industry player I found that to be quite a step in the right direction because it we had already started seeing complaints from from dealers from end users you know saying these companies are letting through cars that are not clean so when when the government through cabs revoked the appointment of those inspecting firms I saw it as a step in the right direction because the whole point I belong to a school of thoughts that much as we import in these cars they need to meet a certain standard Kenya cannot become a dumping ground for for dirty used cars even if you're going to be importing used cars they need to be at the highest standard I think the only thing the government can do is just make it easier and cheaper to import newer cars because the current tax regime in Kenya tends to punish people who bring new occurs your cousin because the limit is eight years but I get a guy bringing a one-year-old car and a guy bringing an 80-year-old car not pay in the same taxes you'd expect the guy bringing an 80-year-old car to pay higher taxes but in Kenya it's the reverse so yeah so it's it's majorly massively affecting that yes yes yes it actually it actually affects the industry because most people will tend to bring the older cars the 80-year-old cars because you know you have to stay in business but if if the law was reversed and and they allowed people to bring newer cars yeah we would have better emission standards in Kenya and we also have newer cars on the roads yeah so I think that whoever the next regime because I do understand the elections are probably two weeks ago yeah so the next regime that is going to come into power needs to look at that and maybe just change that tax law yeah yeah and I hope they'll adhere to that I'm being informed that I have to wrap it up but before before we wrap it up madam producer and director there's a there's a term the Kabyo Jesus partnered with you and they bought an Audi yes posted on a billboard and later on the very time the Audi as in what was the drama because no people's attention no actually no actually get these quite a lot the truth of the matter is Kaby actually bought the car or Kaby bought the car yeah sorry it was actually a gift for me for the wife yeah it was a gift from me to Kaby so what actually happened was they bought an Audi A5 which has very low ground clearance and then at that point if you follow the Kaby's they were living in Tindigua yeah which has the roads are not very good so we advise them to just top up after after after she presented the gift we advise them to top up a million was it it was something close to a million and then get the Q5 yeah the A5 and the Q5 actually share they actually share a platform so we just advise them to get the Q5 yeah they topped up the money which they did which they actually did and Kaby drives around has been driving a Q5 for the last two years okay yeah so but of course guys you know people will hate online yeah say we did it for clout but if the people who follow Kaby Kaby still driving the Q5 to this day so it wasn't clout that's not clout chasing yeah now you've heard it from the horses mountain I think we'll end it right there just kindly what people can find you maybe the social media and the number for your business and yourself yes the business profile is imports back arrow at on all social media platforms that's our Twitter Instagram Facebook Tik Tok and then I'm if you want to follow me personally my name is Calif Cairo on all the social media platforms there and shoot you DM yeah all right a number company number for imports back arrow is 0 7 3 7 6 6 5 5 6 6 all right and and thank you so much bro for coming and respecting the time to be with us thank you so much you welcome thank you you guys are going to ask me again definitely will maybe you should try our sister station too if it's possible right okay and thank you so much guys this has been a great conversation about the automobile industry and car dealership just in case you had questions he has left his social media platforms and even the numbers just in case maybe you want to buy a car God has blessed you please reach out in that regard we are taking a very short break we are coming back with much more including my co-host Stephanie and yet so stay around on hashtag why in the morning


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Hi, I'm Jay Fidel. This is St. Tech, Hawaii, and we're talking about much more on medicine. This is a show I've been waiting to do for, I don't know, a week at least. Very important show involving two researchers here in Hawaii. There's Axel Lara. He's with the John A. Burns School of Medicine, and Dave Clemens. He's with Hawaii Biotech, and they are collaborating on some very important vaccine research right here in Hawaii. Now, you see, we do this. We are world-class. Welcome to the show, Axel. Welcome to the show, Dave. Thank you, Jay. Thank you. Yeah, I'm so excited to be able to talk to you. So this is a collaboration between an academic researcher and Hawaii Biotech, which has its own researchers in their alien part. And we want to examine how that works. We want to examine what you're looking at and how well it's going, what your anticipation is, and how this is going to fit in the global effort to do something on vaccines. So let's see. Axel, why don't you begin? It's only because he's younger, Dave, you know? Okay. What are you working on? Tell us about your research on vaccines. Well, maybe I should go and pull this closure and say that actually my post-doctoral career in research started at Hawaii Biotech. This was quite a few years ago. We're not going to talk about how many. And so that is actually one of the things why, of course, collaborations here. But then Honolulu are kind of a natural thing for us. So what I do mainly here at the John A. Byrd School of Medicine is develop vaccines. So I have, many years ago, started to work on filovirus vaccines, which is a very exciting topic. Now a lot of people are going to say, oh, what are filoviruses? I have not heard about those too much. But when I say the Ebola is one of them, that is actually what got us started on this. And the Ebola virus, as we all know, is a very formidable enemy of human life. And so through this project, what we're doing is we're developing vaccines for both the developing and developed world where we try to have a solution that can help everyone on the globe. And of course, as you were saying, well, we all were thrown into into a world that is a bit different these days. And so, of course, coronaviruses came up earlier this year. And that is also part of our ongoing collaborations. Well, you say that, you know, you're doing research in generally in vaccines, but isn't the coronavirus like different? It's different from other viruses. It's more challenging in some ways. Am I right about that? Coronaviruses are a little bit difficult because we all come from fields where we have viruses that are a little bit more exotic or vector born. Here we have a virus that is respiratory, the route of transmission is respiratory. And therefore, protection against it is a little more difficult. And we need to prevent the transmission also from person to person, which is, I think, the biggest public health impact that a successful vaccine will have. So how do you do that? You take an attenuated version of the virus and you inject it into somebody and let us, I know this sounds oversimplistic, doesn't it? And let his immune system, you know, find defenses. Is it as simple as that? It is as simple as that, Jay. But if we were doing this, then the vaccine would be about 10 to 15 years away. It's a conventional way of making vaccines. So a live attenuated vaccine would be wonderful, but I don't think any of us has the time to wait for that long of a development. So how do you speed it up? The speed that we build into our platform is by recombinant technology. So basically what we do today is modern vaccinology. That is where you very quickly analyze the sequence of the bug and then you identify the part that will most likely protect you. Now, we all were blessed in some ways that a lot of people before us have done the research on SARS coronavirus, the kind of original bad boy in the family of coronavirus. And basically we learned what the key antigen would be. Antigen is that protein that will make you immune. And based on this is where, well, I would say 95 to 99% of all vaccines right now are based on various versions of just this protein. So we don't need to grow the virus for that. That's what is really important. We can just take the genetic makeup of the virus. We can make recombinant proteins just using cell culture. Is that CRISPR? No, CRISPR isn't part of that. CRISPR would be more used for specific targeting where we might want to change the genome. We just use conventional technologies where we put a transgene into the cell line that is, let's say, is friendly to that new building. So is this safer than the classical way of developing vaccines? It is clearly safer because classical ways, you've described one of them. One is making an attenuated virus that would be making the bug less virulent. And that is, of course, going to give you very good protection. And the other classical way is to basically just kill the pathogen. What you do for that is you use a chemical like formaldehyde to inactivate the virus and then you immunize the person with that. So these are kind of the classic ways. The safety aspect that we have is that we only package the component of the virus that will make you immune without having all the other proteins and all the RNA and all the cell culture byproducts that you would get. Like as a good example, when you read the insert for a flu vaccine, you'll see that flu vaccines are typically made in chicken eggs. So there's always some certain components of that that may remain in a vaccine. Our approach is a very clean approach where we really just put the protein of interest into the product. Okay, last question before we move on to David. What's special sauce have you got? I mean, there's a worldwide competition going on. What is special about what you're doing there in Kakaako as opposed to all these other people around the world who are racing for the big bucks on a vaccine? Well, we're all racing for the same. And some people may be in a slightly more advantageous position for that race. But we have actually, this was really fortunate that we just over the last few years in this collaboration on our filovirus vaccine, we actually identified a almost ideal combination where we use this like a protein from a virus, in that case, for Ebola or Marburg virus. But you know, it's the same kind of class of proteins, those proteins form trimmers on the surface of the virus. We know how to make those proteins. What we also do is we combine it with an adjuvant, which is a kind of a that's the special sauce that you're talking about, basically, that will enhance the immune response. And then as a third component, we're actually also trying to lyophilize the whole mixture at the end, so that then the product will be thermostable. I told you earlier, we're trying to have products that could be used everywhere in the world, whether you have a refrigerator or not available. So this is I think that combination of three things, high quality proteins that we make here together with the technology that actually then give you a good immune response and stability of the product.  So what is the nature of the collaboration now? The thing that strikes me is that White Biotech has the ability to get intellectual property rights that is patents on things and also market them, you know, perhaps in a more leveraged way than Japson would. But what is the nature of your collaboration relationship with Axel and with Japson? Well, as Axel has already stated, you know, we're working on, you know, expressing proteins which represent the viruses of interest and that we take these proteins and we make vaccines. And as Axel has worked on his filovirus program over the years, which actually originated from Hawaii Biotech once upon a time, it shares a common platform. And that common platform is something that, you know, we work together on to further develop and to refine so that, you know, we have the potential to either react quickly to whatever the current outbreak is. And that allows us to move forward and to, you know, get into these, I guess you could say these races for various vaccines. And just as an example, when Zika came out in 2016, we were able to take our initial efforts and ramp that up and get all of our parts in place so that we could go to the FDA to ask for initial allowance to begin the process of going to clinical trials. We did not go there at that time, but it demonstrated the speed at which we could go from, you know, as Axel said, from the initial gene sequence to be ready to, you know, be able to go into clinical trials, you know, and there's a lot of moving parts in that. And so over the years, it's something that we've worked out and we've collaborated with the University of Hawaii and others to be able to put together this package that allows us to identify new targets, you know, whatever the virus is in this case, the coronavirus, and to move those quickly into a process that allows us to, excuse me, get to the FDA. In a sense, part of our secret sauce is that we have put together a package which the FDA is familiar with. So when we ramp something up very quickly, we can go to the FDA, we can say, look, this is sort of what we've done before. Everything's the same. The only thing we've swapped out are the genes. We have a different protein, but by and large, our process is the same. And they tend to like that approach. It helps to smooth things out because when they see something completely brand new, they want to dig down deep and make sure everything's right. But we've been to them on other programs such as Dengue and West Nile, so they're familiar with it. So that gives us some leverage when we get to that stage of having our vaccine ready to go to clinical trials. I read recently that the Chinese in Wuhan, same place, working on a vaccine, and they believe they have a vaccine. And in China, you don't have the FDA, not even close. And so they're actually skipping phase three trials. They're deploying the vaccine right now or soon. Yeah. So one of the key questions that is out there, we have these vaccines that are in the clinic, the warp speed process right now, but there's a lot of issues related to safety. These has actually alluded to, there's been previous work done on coronaviruses on the original SARS back in 2003 and moving forward. And there were safety signals that came up regarding what happens when you give different forms of vaccines to test subjects, in this case mostly animals, obviously, because none of those went to humans. And there's things that need to be caution, there needs to be caution about and, you know, how this all plays out. And, you know, when, when we, will we might see that something falls out because something pops up all of a sudden. And so, you know, talking about the different types of vaccines that can be used, each technology that use has its own set of risks to it. And so coming back to again, our collaboration, our platform, we think that we have quite a bit of a safety advantage over many of the other platforms that are out there. So, you know, that's something that keeps us moving forward. You know, you look at the field, the last number I heard that there's over 200 different vaccine approaches right now for a coronavirus. So, you know, it's a very crowded field.  And, you know, safety is one of the things that we think we have going for us, you know, in our approach to tackling this particular viral threat. I want to be clear, we are all so totally happy you're doing this. You know, it's world-class work needed by the world and you're doing it right here, right here in Hawaii. That is, it makes us also so damn proud if you want to know. Whatever happens, we care about. Thank you. Yeah. So, what is left to happen here? Put us on the time continuum, David. So, I mean, currently, you know, we're evaluating the products that we've produced. We're very happy with our current expression and the current candidates that we have developed thus far. We're in a stage right now where we're trying to sort through a whole lot of data. You know, we have to look at, you know, the quality of the protein. We have to look at the stability of the protein. We have to do initial evaluations on the immune response of the protein. And there's a lot of comparisons that you have to make. You have to ask, you know, what you see right now is when humans are currently infected, they have certain antibody titers. So, we have to ask, you know, the antibody titers that we generate, how do those compare to what you typically see in humans? Or the type of vaccine technology that we're using, we want to see stronger responses than natural responses. We think that gives us a comfort level to say that, you know, we're on the right track. So, we're sorting through all that data right now, trying to make sure that all the logic fits together. And once we have that in parallel, we're working to develop the manufacturing methods that are necessary to be able to take this forward. Again, you have to put your whole package together so that when you're ready to go, you go to the FDA and say, here's all the pieces I have. This is how I'm going to do it. You know, is this acceptable? And can you do a phase one trial before that, or you have to wait for that? If you're doing it in the U.S., you have to take your package to the FDA and have, they have to grant you allowance to move into clinical trials. You know, there are people who are out there actually doing, going into phase three. I don't know exactly what their approach is, but they, you know, there's been discussion from the White House, that doesn't mean it's correct, but there has been discussion about, you know, people who are ready to move into phase three soon. When does that put you in juxtaposition? And there are people for that matter that are apparently ready to manufacture the devices by which this would be injected and have virtually billions of them ready. Where does that put you? And can you, should you do the same thing? So, I mean, it's incredibly complicated at this point. I mean, this is totally unprecedented.  So it's hard to put everything into perspective. But one thing that I think that we have to accept at this stage of the game, you know, being that, you know, we're not a big company, we're not, you know, heavily funded at this point in time, is that what we're really looking at is second generation vaccines, because the ones that are in the clinic way ahead of us, those are going to be the primary out there.  And, you know, generally, safety is a key component of that. And so until they move along, we don't know. So we're looking to the fact that we can come in and, you know, potentially deliver a safer vaccine. And where that's really key is when you start looking at the elderly population. So all of these trials that are being done right now are what we call healthy adults, meaning 18 to 59. And so that's, you know, your healthy population. You don't get generally as good immune responses in the people over 60. So with our secret sauces, as you said earlier, we hope that that's an avenue that we can approach. And, you know, just for parallels, we have another program for alpha viruses, particularly chicken gunia. And again, it's kind of a crowded field there too. But again, we're bringing something that's different. We think that, you know, we can come into these populations that are either elderly or immunocompromised, where a lot of these traditional vaccines may not be applicable.  Well, I think that's really important for people to understand. At the end of the day, this is not going to be one vaccine. There'll be a number of vaccines and we'll need a number of vaccines. Absolutely. Let me turn to you, Axel, and ask you this. What is your target? Now, there have been various remarks. And again, who's to say whether they're accurate or not, because what the public hears is different than what you do and what you hear. But for the proposition that no vaccine is going to last that long, in other words, whatever immunity we can develop out of the vaccine, it's not going to be, we don't know how long it's going to be. We don't know if it's a year or six months or three months, you may have to be. In fact, I think people generally say you'll have to be vaccinated a couple of times for it to have any significant effect. What target are you looking for? What would you like to achieve? I know it's impossible to say exactly how this is going to work, but what are you shooting for on this? Well, as David has described so nicely already, I mean, so one of the things that we have to look at is that there are different populations that will get different vaccine candidates. That is the same in the field of the coronavirus vaccines as it is here with the coronavirus vaccines. About one third of the population in the US, for example, is pre-diabetic or diabetic. We know that those individuals are of particular accessibility for severe COVID-19 disease. So, you have a different population that you need to vaccinate. You may have to specifically focus that immune response to be as protective as a vaccine in the normal healthy adult that will and is the current subject of all the clinical trials that we're talking about. So, when we are talking about durability, that is a very important thing. So, we don't want a vaccine where you basically have to go back every few months to get revaccinated. So, I would say an ideal schedule here would be similar as for the flu vaccine with an annual booster vaccine. That is based on reality, on the reality that the immune response is waning and that we do need relatively tight immune control in this case. Coronaviruses are, like you said earlier, a little bit more of a different beast from other diseases. So, while a lifelong vaccination, like we could get, for example, with the yellow fever vaccine, which is an ideal life-attenuated vaccine, that lifelong protection is not something that seems achievable here. However, another marker that we need to look for and that we are actually very happy about is a very quick onset of immunity. So, let me give you an example here where, you know, the, of course, front runner in the vaccine development right now is Moderna, but their mRNA vaccine. This genetic vaccine does seem to actually raise the proper type of immunity. However, it needs for sure two doses at a minimum. We are trying to minimize the number of doses that are required, and even if you may not have full protection, if you have a significant level of protection already after a single dose, and that may actually start rising after maybe a week or two already, then that is an important marker that we're looking for. So, we're looking at these specific special needs and other vaccines that are front runners, like the Oxford vaccine approach also requires two doses. And one of the problems with that platform is that they just also happen to be in the Ebola field with that same platform is that immunity vanes very quickly. So, while we see partial protection in monkeys after one year after the last dose of our Ebola vaccine that we developed together with Hawaii Biotech, we are these, these adenovirus-vectored vaccines, you know, show a waning immunity and require another booster at about six months, I would say. So, it is that those are those kind of markers. It's great that you asked that question because this is one of the true benefits of the platform that we have developed, that we can fine-tune the response to that extent. So, Axel, what do you say to those people? And the last poll I saw was something in the order of 20, 24 percent of the people in this country, I think the results are different in Europe and Asia who are anti-vaxxers and would not be interested in taking any vaccine. What do you say to them about this vaccine, about COVID, about public health?  So, of course, this is a topic that we discuss a lot with our students or in my classes. So, it's a very, very important topic. Public health is not something that others do. Public health is something that starts at home. So, I can understand when people are afraid of certain vaccinations that may be painful or may have other side effects that are risky. But we are, and we're not alone in that because it is especially the FDA's role to make sure that the vaccines that reach the US customer are perfectly safe. And that is, I think, the biggest message out there. If you get a vaccine in this country, you can be sure that it has been fully vetted. Of course, in the history, you know, there have been other examples, but this is the 21st century. Technologies have advanced to a point that you are definitely going to be safe.  You have questions. This is the way how you learn about it. It is not about looking at some things in social media. The most important thing is to talk to your experts and learn about what it can do for you and what it can do for others. Yes, others especially.  And for hundreds of thousands of years at least, we have to share the planet with them. And they come for us from time to time. I'm not sure I should limit that to viruses either, remembering the Black Death and the plague in the 6th century and the 14th century, which continues in some places even today, you know, even with antibiotics. So, what you guys are doing, diseases you dealt with, is something that you're going to have to continue dealing with. And so, it's wonderful to have Hawaii Biotech and Japsum collaborating and working on diseases. But I have to say, my reaction is that you're going to have to keep on doing that. There'll be more coming down the road. You will be busy for a lifetime and a lifetime of lifetimes trying to save humanity. Am I right about that? How do you feel about that? No, I think you're absolutely right.  There's been so many programs over the last, you know, decade of identifying more viruses. So, we're aware of even more than that we knew that was out there to begin with, or knew 10 years ago. And so, this is something that's going to be coming at us. The real key and the lesson I think learned here is we have to do a lot more to be prepared for these. We can't do this on a reactionary level. And, you know, this has been an argument that's been, you know, gone over many times in the last 10 years or more about we have to be more prepared. And yet again, we're unprepared. And I think, you know, what we like to believe with this platform that we're working with is we're trying to refine it and make it as plug and play as possible. And I think that's what everybody has to realize at some level is we have to have a way that when the next thing shows up, you can, to the extent possible, just plug it in and run with it and ramp it up. And so, having all of the safety features built into it that you can, having all of the manufacturing modules built in it that you can to allow you to just, dare I say, keep it as simple as possible so that you can move as quickly as possible. But also to, you know, look at these viruses that we know that are out there and to develop, start developing those in advance and having all the pieces in place so that, again, we can move with them much faster. And that's something that as a company we've been arguing for it's hard to get traction over the years. We kind of have some of that in play right now. And we're hoping that we can take advantage of that. You think Hawaii can be a significant player in this even beyond Hawaii biotech going forward? It's always something that we hope for. We've been trying to do this for many years. The people at the university have been trying to do this for many years. And, you know, it's something that we need to keep, you know, driving forward and doing our best to put our best foot forward and to be a force within the vaccine field out there to be able to put new products out there that can help us all. Thank you. David Clements Hawaii Biotech, working with Elliot Parks there, a wonderful company, doing wonderful work for a long time. We have followed you for, oh gosh, it must be 15 years at least. A little bit more than that. Sorry, I don't want to understate. And Axel, they're working at Japsum and the two collaborating on the most important medical and public health issue of our time and our generation, maybe for 100 years going forward, the coronavirus. Thank you, Axel. Thank you, David. It's been wonderful to talk to you. Thank you, Jay. Appreciate it. Thanks, Dave.


talk about the best project management software to keep track of time and budgets and for scheduling and communication. But let's start off with what is project management software? Well, it's software designed to help people initiate, plan, execute, monitor and close projects of any size or type. These software tools and associated apps typically provide an overview of all projects while also allowing those involved in individual assignments to get into the nitty gritty details to move the work forward. The best project management software typically includes the following features, planning and documenting projects, tasks and activities, building schedules and timelines, solving project issues and establishing collaboration, communication and information sharing between project participants. Now let's dive in to how to choose project management apps. Well, nowadays entrepreneurs have a wide variety of project management apps to choose from, so many choices and the best project management software combines planning, tracking, measuring and reporting functionalities into a single tool. And additionally, some project management tools charge per user or number of accounts while other tools allow you to buy a license for an unlimited number of users. The best project management software will include the following functionality, so the ability to set dependencies on the task, the ability to create and manage sub tasks from a larger task, the ability to create recurring tasks so you don't have to keep doing it and the ability to add more than one user to a task. You'll also have to decide if you're content with the cloud or if you'd rather have it stored on your company's server. All right, let's cover the best project management software options that are out there because we've covered what they are, we've covered what to look for in a good one. So now I want to go through a few of the best project management software options on the market today. Let's start off with Basecamp. It's the best project management software for managing multiple team members in multi-step projects. Features include functionality for to-do lists, message boards and cloud storage. And recently, Basecamp announced a new tier. It's a free basic account. And this basic account is good for up to three projects, 20 users and one gigabyte of storage space, ideal for personal project use. Next up, we have JIRA. And I actually use it a ton as a product manager at GoDaddy with my software team. So JIRA is one of the top project manager tools used by software development teams. It enables software teams to plan, track and release software. Some of its features include scrum and Kanban boards, quick reporting, roadmaps and the ability to connect issues to code. JIRA also integrates with developer tools and more than 3000 external apps. I use JIRA all the time. And speaking of apps I use all the time, let's talk about Slack. This is how Neely and I keep in touch when we're not doing the journey. Slack is a collaboration tool that brings all your team's communications together. We use it a ton at GoDaddy. In fact, we even have our own little channel for the journey. So that's what's cool about Slack. It allows teams to create different channels to streamline communication and organize conversations into specific streams. Slack also allows you to perform voice and video calls. In fact, if you plan to use it as a complete project management tool, well these integrations will be necessary as Slack is more about communication than complete project management. Fans of spreadsheets will appreciate Smartsheet. It's the project management app that comes in spreadsheet form. With a no-nonsense design, Smartsheet is an app that gets things done. It can handle everything from budgeting and task tracking to resource management and reporting. It is a cloud-based so you can access it wherever. And last but not least, Trello. I think we use that briefly. Anyways, Trello is a project management tool best suited for more visual people. And it allows you to organize information through the use of boards, cards, and checklist. So much like a virtual Kanban board or a virtual wall of sticky notes. It's kind of how I picture it. And you can also upload file attachments to help keep project assets organized. And it is easily integrated with many apps, including Google Drive, Dropbox, Slack, and Evernote. Project management apps help entrepreneurs manage their teams, tasks, and projects. Various options include those that cater to different working styles, team sizes, needs, and budgets. The key to finding the best project management software for your business is to evaluate the needs of your business. All right, that's our app, but your journey doesn't need to stop there. We have 200 plus more videos for you to check out. Be sure to like, subscribe, and comment. Until next time, this is A Journey.


Hi everyone, Sean with jaspyscasebrakes.com here doing 2020-2021 Prism Premier League soccer, two box hobby break, random club number 29. Where all-card ship, 18 spots, and here are the clubs. There are two combo spots, Crystal Palace and Leeds and Sheffield United and West Brom. Here is the list of customers from Matthew Shearer down to last spot mojo Robert Runkel and the teams are clubs from Arsenal down to Wolverhamton. Dice will randomize both lists and pair them up five out of five, ten times. Tenth and final time, Will Hasch down two, Will Hasch. Ten times the randomizer, ten times in the dice. Now ten times on the clubs. Tenth and final time, Newcastle United down two, Manchester United. Ten times, ten times. Will Hasch with Newcastle United, Robert Runkel with Sheffield United and West Brom. Michael Eng with Liverpool, Brian Heyman with Leicester. Robert Runkel with Arsenal, Robert Montgomery Brighton and Hove. Montee Stibbeck with Southampton. Corey Shalick, West Ham. Matthew Shearer, Wolverhamton. Matthew Shearer, Chelsea. Ryan Case and Crystal Palace and Leeds, Robert Runkel with Fulham and Burnley. Brian Heyman, Aston Villa, Robert Runkel Everton. Mark Miller, Tottenham, Robert Runkel, Manchester City and Will Hasch, Manchester United. There you go. Trade window is open. If you guys are here and would like to potentially trade, here is your chance. I'm going to pause the video, give it a minute or so for trade opportunities and we'll get it going. So it looks like no talks of trades. So everybody's happy with their clubs. And here are our boxes. Re-modeled. I don't think so. The couch used to be up against this wall, but I mean, it's been like this for a while now. We've been talking about how in the store, constant changes always going on in the store. Refreshing, making it look good, updates on product all the time. We got a gold vinyl. That should be out of five. I can see it. Let's hope it's a big name. I believe it's called gold power in this, maybe. So it's not a one-on-one. I think the black is a one-on-one. But the gold power, I think, is, like I said, out of five. Greenwood, please, will say. That would be pretty cool. Saka would be really nice. I know you're saying greenwood for you. Saka would be a really good name. Jungmin Sun would be a good name. Phil Thorin would be a good name. Main Plastic would be cool. A little black, also. Good luck, everybody. Jungmin Sun. To start, let me grab my list for Tottenham, Mark Miller. Oh, Tottenham, Jungmin Sun, Otto, Mark Miller, Marcus Rashford, Manchester United, Wilhash, Jan Bidnaric, Southampton, Monti Stibbock, Vincent Vincente, Goethe, Crystal Palace, Ryan Cason, David De Gea, 2199 from Manchester United, Wilhash, Polisic, Chelsea, Matthew Shearer, John Fleck, Sheffield United, Robert Runkel. Still haven't seen a single numbered parallel of Jungmin except for Otto. Well, Robert saw another Otto there. Mason Mount, Chelsea, Matthew Shearer, Marcus Rashford again for Manchester United, Wilhash, Dwight McNeil, 299, 4, Burnley, Robert Runkel, Sully Marsh, a little red mojo to 135 for Brighton and Hove, Rob Montgomery, Semi Ajayi for West Brom, that's part of the combo spot, Robert Runkel, and Anderfrank Zombo-Anguissa, 149 for Fulham and Robert Runkel. That's nice. I like that. Kai Havertz, Chelsea, Matthew Shearer, Wukai Osaka, Arsenal, and another one, Robert Runkel, Jamie Vardy, Lester, Brian Heyman, Anthony Marshall for Manchester United, Wilhash, Fabian Delphi, 2199 for Everton, Robert Runkel, Trent Alexander Arnold, Liverpool, Michael Ang, and Tom Carney for Fulham, Robert Runkel, Jersey Number, nice one. Is that Rookie Rex or no? Harry Kane, Tottenham, Mark Miller, looks like we got some gold here. Timothy Castagne for Lester, Brian Heyman, and Dennis Adoi, that looks like orange now that I see it. That is out of 14 out of 25 for Fulham, Robert Runkel, Kevin De Bruyne, Manchester City, Robert Runkel, Mason Greenwood, Manchester United, Wilhash, Raheem Sterling for Man City, Robert Runkel, Wilford Zaha to 135, Crystal Palace, Ryan Kasin, Pierre Emil Hosberg, Pink Wave, Non-Numbered, Tottenham, Mark Miller, and Harry Kane Red to 149, or Tottenham, Mark Miller. That's box number one. No, but it's still cool. Somebody will like it. I mean, it's good timing on that too. Yeah, the Tiffany's are hard. Curtis Jones, Liverpool, Michael Aang, Allison, Liverpool, number two, 135, Michael Aang, Lucas Mora for Tottenham, Mark Miller, Kieran Tierney, Arsenal, Robert Runkel, for sure. Greenwood color. You asked so nicely, Will. How can you say no? Paul Pogba, Tri-Color, Manchester United, Wilhash, and Aaron Ramsdale, Sheffield United, Robert Runkel, that is to 149. N'Golo Conte for Chelsea, Matthew Shearer. Oh, it doesn't look like it's a player. It's an insert. It's a player. It's Callum Robinson for West Brom, two out of five. Combo spot, Robert Runkel, Scorer's Club, Gold Vinyl. Very nice. Fabian Delph Everton, Robert Runkel. Yeah. So we still should have one auto in this last stack over here. It is a very sweet card. It's not the base. It's an insert, but it's still very nice. Phil Foden, Manchester City, Robert Runkel, Cesar Azupuita, Chelsea, Matthew Shearer, and Fabio Silva, Blue Ice to 75, Wolverhamton, Matthew Shearer, Solly Marsh to 99, Brighton Hove, Robert Montgomery. I mean, I'd look at pricing and see what the other ones in different levels of grading are selling at, you know. Tom Mutino, Pink Wave, Wolverhamton, Matthew Shearer, John Joe Shelby, Newcastle, Wilhash to 199, Gokhan Inler for Leicester, and Brian Heyman is our auto. Leandro Trossard, Brighton Hove, Robert Montgomery, the Orange, I think it's the Orange. Willie Boley, Wolverhamton, Matthew Shearer, and Thiago Alcantara, Orange. Should be out of 25 for Liverpool to finish it off. Michael Heng, Jack Stevens, Southampton, Monte Stibbock, Miguel Almaron for Newcastle is our last hit, Wilhash. There you go. That was the break. That was 2020-2021 Panini Prism Premier League Soccer 2 Box Hobby Break. Random club number 29 from jaspyscasebreaks.com. I'm Sean, jaspyscasebreaks.com. Thanks for hanging out. I'll see you next time.


What we're going to look at is the Dow Jones Industrial Average, it's a daily chart just looking at the big picture for first off We've got a general uptrend line in place here And then we've got several horizontal resistance lines above us, and we're testing the upper one right right now at 34,600 and but how we approaching it here We've got the ROG lines not versus cash as we were looking at a moment ago, but versus the S&P Itself so it's not performing that well as we saw versus the the S&P S&P further to the right, and it's looking heavy compared to the S&P But from an absolute basis from a chart basis actually very key point We're at now this 34,600 level. I think is significant. We're pushing towards it. Every low is higher We have got the MACD has turned up again, and the RSI is looking pretty good So now looking a little bit closer. We can see that these points line up pretty well one two Three four and we're pushing towards it now every low is higher here We've got some good momentum we see in the RSI here And as I said we've got crossover in the slightly lagging MACD here But the picture is looking good and threatening to make a break to the upside I think a little bit push through 3400 could take us to quite swiftly towards 35,400 now moving to the S&P the Trend here is clearly up stronger than Dow Jones. Dow Jones has been stifled But we do think it might be on the verge of playing a game of catch up So what we look for potential there, but here we're moving along quite fluidly upwards We've got the latest level of support these two highs in here and before the gap breakout at 4,440 We're pushing forward here now strong upside momentum. We see in the MACD We see a rising RSI not excessive at this moment heading towards the longer-term resistance, which is at 4,640 this looks like it's onwards and upwards and The next level of resistance where it may have a pause and pullback like this is still above us to the The NASDAQ broke the very important level of 15,230 and that I Crash through it gapped up very strongly indeed It's moving towards an area of resistance now, which really starts around 16,000 extends up to the two tops here at 16,575 and then the high up here at 16,750 it's pushing ahead strongly here the MACD has just crossed back up So this sort of lagging indicator is shown the pause is over and we're on our way up and the momentum is strong as The gap widens here and the RSI you can see is up, but just hooked over very slightly here I think there is a slight of hesitancy here and we may see the edge come off this with this Lead that the NASDAQ has had not to say that it's going to lose the lead But I would expect the ROG to turn over a little bit it is beginning to turn over a little bit and just this Performance extreme out performance to slow up now as it approaches this resistance level


What's going on everyone Sam here late in sports cards? We are ripping 2022 Panini Chronicles baseball hobby 16 box full case Number two a random division style. Here's the look again at your random results You can always find these on the website under the results tab as well as the link that's in chat Let's do it three to go guys on select PYT. We have two of those tonight half cases All teams are now on sale as well and mark down all of the teams that were still left So if you're interested grab at your spots up clean Let's do it first box of Chronicles. Good luck everybody. All right, so for the recap.  So Yeah, so just know that I'll just we'll do the recap to hit recap. Just won't say the divisions It's a lot of talking Nicoladolo Mason Thompson Jake Myers Acunia Simeon, there's a Lucius Fox can be your first auto essentials not numbered going to the NL East by way of the Nationals And a Hans Krauss also the NL East brash. We've got Aaron Ashby. Oh No gaming Aaron Ashby to a hundred of a Chris. Well Wander rookie O'Neill Cruz crusade rookie Got a nice show. Hey, Ohtani That is going to the Angels. Oh wow Prism a world cup soccer first off the line or in soccer personals. Oh, wow That's uh, that's big right there. Oh nice one there. Hey, I'll West Walker view that Looky bets. What happened? Yes, I said watch watch next time Lane tries to walk in a trip over the box Yeah, yeah, since he on I like Andre Jackson Roanzee is an Alejo Lopez spectra labor Taurus and A Raphael Devers, that's gonna be numbered two out of ninety-nine Be watching in the morning for sure O'Neill Cruz They're in staff personals right now, too, that's awesome dude Any order tonight, you can rip those awesome Absolutely Wander Franca. There's a one Soto That is two thirty out of two ninety-nine You know, he's 13 months younger than Jeremy Pena. Is he really wild? Wow, yeah And then we've got a mini machado on the deep space auto going to the NL West silver ink. That's so sick, dude Not numbered. I love these deep space autos. These are so clean. Nice machado. Congrats. I know less. It's gonna be Dustin K Feels redemption. It is redemption II O'Neill Cruz on a pinnacle that numbered Pinnacle O'Neill Cruz Nick Alguyer Aaron Ashby to a hundred for the NL Central Deppmers Eli Morgan And read Deppmers not numbered on the obsidian Come on, baby, let's see something big rookie Jersey autographs card number 136 Shane boss. There you go. L East Bradley are nice one there on the boss the Wizard of Boz Congrats on that one. There you go. Al East That's If they lose there's an issue, yeah, maybe to the bangles for last week of the season I think we have the bills this year too, though No, we didn't play the bills. I don't think you have the bills I was looking at their schedule earlier today in the only game Oh, you might lose that is is the bangles. Yeah Yeah, Taylor Almanac is listed Friday Friday night. The first five cases are listed Saturday night. We'll be the second five cases And Bryce Harper Nice one there. I'll do it for box one. We're on a box, too. Oh, yeah, Almanac is listed here I can drop the link to that I'll drop the link to the break schedule. But yeah, it is um Tell me all the secrets. Oh Yeah, I'm Boppa in Prism World Cup Absolutely, I don't know Holland wasn't in the checklist Because isn't it roads in a World Cup? No. Oh, that's why that's why that's why Italy's not in it. It makes sense. All right. That's understandable Her personal breaks yesterday. I know honestly Alice there. Yeah. Yeah, it's just the teams that actually made the world Make sense. I wish I wish that Prism Number two ninety nine that's Jake McCarthy and I was in a decade. They'll be right Look at 2014 Prism World Cup right now $60,000 a case Really? Yeah on rail 2018 World Cup Prism is like 45 Spencer Strider silver Shane boss Nice one here sixty out of ninety nine ALS re-Depmers.  Yeah, the national landmarks looks so nasty There's a wander pinnacle Hell yeah Yeah We've got Matt Manning on the auto going to the AL central there you go Ryan Which one Yeah, I got a hat with a fire frog on it right now Tray Mancini even Kyle Go No, yeah, that's a good point honestly Castro Yachty to 50 AL or NL central Zika Harper as an Anthony Rizzo Nice 93 out of 99 for the Yankees and stripe on that one And just just Yeah, like this break right here. This is this is a group break Alice there. So it's a little different You buy like spots as opposed to buying the actual box Camilla Jonathan India and Wanda Franco I would Yes, I am Dylan. I will be doing personals tonight. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Got a lot last new bath 22 out of 25 NL central Nathan P. Nice one there and Jonathan India Dylan's the one to hit that paylay. Oh nice. Hey, let's stay in glass dude nuts man nuts guard right there It's got 10 bucks Tuesday coming up after this.   I sneezed out all the mojo before Rory's break last night Sorry Rory Ronesy Chasm a Cormac silver Silver a Brandon Lau and Matt Manning. I'm sitting in not numbered Scorpio, when did you order your box? So I just want to make sure gold rush cow ripkin on the case hit There you go again Bradley really feasting with that al e-spot man Purple won. Yep as the 49 NL central Louis heel. There's a Kevin Smith al West not numbered on the red foil limited Jersey Soto and Selby Because Matt might have read if you ordered it early Matt might have ripped it over on the baseball channel But if it's later, then yeah, I'll go tonight steel Gavin sheets Bryce Harper We've got reverse and Martin that's going to the NL central with the Reds nice one there NL central Anthony Rizzo Riley Adams manual Rivera Jaren Duran Meyers Shrout there is for the Cardinals Edwin Nunez That's gonna be cracked ice one out of 23 nice when they're NL central Nathan P Congrats, man. And can tell Marta. All right last box of our last pack of box three Mookie Blade Adams. There's a wander rookie crusade Sandy Alcantara and Jose Ramirez on the box for Good luck here again, everybody studio coming up on this one. It looks like that mirrors Durrani Marite There's a Hans Krauss 47 out of 299 another AL East it this time but don't rule on 10 out of 20 on the studio auto Congrats on that one Bradley R Redulfo Castro or Redulfo Castro Francisco Lindor and I have the same team nothing Not even close man. I don't even know how where I got that from No idea where that came where that came from Marsh, there's a trout nice 13 out of 25 19 out of 25 And our AL West Romy Gonzalez Jordan Alvarez Not numbered AL West on the jersey Bueller and Jaren Durant Well, what do you mean question marks Lane? This is a different Lane Different Lane Imposter Lane Lane Juan Yepas Matt Manning Joe Ryan Redulfo Castro, let's see. There's an actual Redulfo Castro Eli morning or Eli Morgan 29 out of 75 going to the AL Central on the draft ticket. There you go, Ryan Come on focus focus There we go nice one there and Randy Arosa Rainer What are the what are the questions for Lane hit the Qan baby? Zika blade blade Mookie bet silver and KB To go here props dole all Silver show head Barrios and a Joe Ryan rookie It's here kaboom. I think there's kabooms in this unfortunately, but an actual like a kaboom kaboom would be fun McCormick Torkelson rookie That's I'm gonna hit the wit one-of-one got your picture autos out of the way. We've got Luis Frias America's pastime rookie auto 50 out of 99 Going to the NL West and show hey not numbered box five. Oh, who do you contact send us an email latent sports cards at? Gmail.com sorry if I missed that comment originally Yeah, it'll be late in sports cards at gmail.com and Jake Meyers 74 out of 99 AL West Brera there's a Colton Welker jersey for The Rockies and a West Kareya Silver lindor obsidian Drew Ellis, Curtis Terry Kareya, Josh low Auto Mason Thompson and a least There you go National Shane boss not numbered the RPA coming up here spectra. I believe Contreras crannick the grom There's a Bobby Whit rookie We've got Jose Miranda. That is night or 13 out of 49 Nice prospect for the twins. There you go Ryan. Nice one there, buddy Jose Miranda on the spectra RPA that's sweet and Sharon Durant the wander rookie and flattie and hear the words Yes, we have insurance got a green coming up. That is not the green to five though Bobby Whit on the green nice. That's gonna be numbered one out of 75 There you go Rookie Jersey autographs are spectra. That's actually pretty cool. I did not know that. There's a wit Carlson and Cabrini's last talks or last pack here We got another spectra Hoy John Park There's a wander rookie certified certified hood classic trout silver We've got wow four out of 199 O'Neill cruise Oh There you go NL central Nathan P with the on-card O'Neill cruise Congrats on that one there, buddy. That is awesome Get that into a mag for you. Louise Heald looked when he pulled the the bed all brew on gotcha gotcha gotcha What are you watching tonight Vaughan NBA you and gonna be Knees deep and leak pass tonight. It's very thin looks like you probably have another redemption Should have bought in It's been good case so far. Yeah, I mean like one or two more bangers or something like a one-to-one or something Yeah Marsh the cruise rookie everybody just sit back and relax And watch the bangers. Oh, yeah Redemption right there. There's yeah, see there's no NBA games today Aaron Ashby will be watching hockey here. I think tabs versus Redwings recon autographs Card number 15 Jeremy Pena Oh World Series MVP Brandon H with the AL West.  Congrats again Brandon Is that you Brandon Ebi Jose Siri going back to the AL West to 199 Cal Raleigh America's pastime show. Hey, Ohtani Lindor on the spectrum numbered nine out of 75 and I'll East and Mike trout nice. There you go, Brandon This feels could like it could be redemption II again. It is not redemption II never mind Abrams Riley Adams. We got Joe Barlow AL West Not numbered on the elite auto Stop Joshua J rod on the rookie AL West again How you doing buddy Josh There's a wander crusade. I must miss that O'Neill cruise Titan a Rosa Rainer and Nolan Arnav Silver Seabold men as and Javi bias What's happening what's happening Joshua What's happening cat Soto silver We've got a CJ Abrams now and a West dude That's so cool, man Another nice hit right there not numbered on the Abrams Wow, we pulled a lot of heat so far. That's awesome, dude There you go and a West that is Dustin K and another O'Neill cruise rookie. It's case. It's pretty fire, dude Yeah Wander pinnacle and judge we've got Ronnie Dawson for the Reds. That's NL central Nice one there Gavin sheets. Oh, yeah, we're we're doing well for sure Joshua Thomas the puppy 20 out of 25 for the NL East. There's an auto Lopez Jersey auto or Jersey for the AL East It's all Marseille and the ground. Yeah, I saw was it a um, I Forget what super map pulled out of this Spencer Strider Cow Raleigh Josh Bell and Yachty. It was like was it mookie bets mookie bets or Harper or Soto is somebody like that was some big name Hatties. That's who it was. Yeah, that's a big name Spectra RPA coming up here Eli Morgan, there's a Bobby Whit rookie a trout super. It's pretty nasty Read death mirrors. We've got Michael McGreevy two out of 15 on the green Prospect auto go into the NL central congrats Nathan P on card Michael McGreevy That's kind of nasty to 15 and a hunter green rookie another spectra RPA coming up Elliott Ramos. This is Bobby Whit but all drew on Silver Shane boss Bobby Whit jr. Eight out of 25 What a case man. Holy cow. There you go Ryan. There's your Bobby Whit Heck yeah, dude eight out of 25 dude. What a case. This is so far. Hold it. We're not even halfway through There you go, Ryan last spot mojo, baby on the color match, too Wow, what a case man. What a case Jake Myers Unreal dude unreal case we got working with right now Silver Shoah, hey Well, you know last spot mojo, man. Oh, yeah, Sean Murphy There was a no-brainer. Absolutely Yeah, I mean you're just gonna get a ton of cards All right, here we go guys next the box box number eight Halfway through after this one blue Torkels into 50. There's some gravy for you man. There you go, Ryan Hans Kraus He said about full case for personals. Ooh Jeff Bagwell Nice one there for the NL East Game worn Bagwell. Congrats Brandon.  Love that card One of the killer bees Woodruff and Soda Bobby Whit rookie Bobby Whit rookie again Suzuki Friedel. There's a Zach short for the Tigers on the certified auto Nice one there and Alex Pregman silver Salvi and Lou Bob Yeah, there's manga and soccer prison, which is cool, too Those manga short prints those are so far That's east we got a redemption again, dude the doll brew, huh? Good luck everybody. There's fabric Card number 10 Tom Smith, that's gonna be pretty cool. Actually Believe he's Mets Uncle's group reek checklist Dominic Smith should be Yes, Matt. So that'll go NL East That's what I thought. I just want to make sure he wasn't traded or anything and at least on that one Those fireworks are cool, too silver Aaron judge Pete Alonzo And a coon yeah Yeah, for sure Kyle. I mean, he's good. It's just tough because like he's he just doesn't really fit in with that lineup is Gavin sheets. What's up?  Oh, yeah, nice torque, baby. Let's go Congrats on that one Ryan be picking up a lot of steam toward the end here Yeah, that's that's six man of the year for the NBA Spencer Torkelson It's confirmed NBA veteran Spencer Torkelson Locked up Yanis last night That's the trick piston Spencer Torkelson. Good God. I'm never gonna live that one down now. The hooks. Yeah, I like them the CC that they do Yep, that one's cool too Connor Wong, this is Salvy Perez silver and Freddy Freeman Oh, yeah, that's like Mount Rainier, I think so they have like the little Mountain in the back that one's cool. Yeah, I'm Hans Krauss We've got Reese Nair that's going to the NL West 12 out of 49 Mookie bets Do you want to drop in the link for selecting them really quick? Sean's gonna drop you guys the link for select basketball pick your team break in soon first basketball break of the day So that's some spots last time we checked First Terry, Drew Ellis, Bellinger and Reed Detmer's That one's thick right there. Only the spurs left Spurs are pretty heavily marked down as well It's gonna be Edward Cabrera to 100 Romy Gonzalez Say I there's a boba chef going to the AL East to the blue Jays Kershaw and a Mikey Stremsky Siebold there's an AJ Alexi AL West that is 30 out of 99 by pulling some heat And the next one you'll allow it. All right good as long as Kyle allows it. That's good There's a soda 83 out of 99 for the nationals. All right. We got a thick card in this one Really thick. It's a gold as well No, this is a personal Dean. This is a personal how much We've got silver Corey seager That is four out of ten one. Yep That is nasty going to the NL central Nathan P. Congrats, man Unless you can't fit it, I'd say we might be able to in a 180 Congrats on that one sweets gold right there and those specters are so nice and Bryce Harper Yeah, it's thick with like 12 cues on the end right there. Oh, yeah We got plenty of spots coming in some spots where black are coming in as well select spots more panini black Some origin spots coming into Let's go back here. It would be 2,200 you might just do it honestly It's a wander rookie spent a strier another wander rookie. It's not a cow Raleigh. Nice one there big dumper So 199 NL West or AL West excuse me Freddie Freeman NL West to 75 And Peter Lanzel cursed Harry not numbered sober Joe Ryan. There's a Jake Meyers that's 18 out of 49 AL West Astros nice one there Congrats again Brandon Josiah Gray Brian de la Cruz two out of five on the green Congrats there Brian K and L East Ruhon Spencer Strider wouldn't be a break if there wasn't a Spencer Strider pulled go into the NL East Buxton and Salvi Perez Torkelson Rookie. There's an O'Neill cruise Titan rookie Trout Thomas the pucky Seven out of 49 and at least again with the mechs They get those cards created probably smart Christian Yelich probably smart Kyle That dude, I know we got to do a PSA so at some point you and I Rice elder Matt Olson and Raphael Devers, which one now Peyton Henry Shorebirds. Oh, yeah, they're cool. Wanda Franca Pretty much. Yeah, let's go dolphins chain from Spreilly Adams. We've got Louise Frias NL West 28 out of 99 is the Roy Hibbert gonna be graded Vaughn and Tyler McGill Not number for the big perk on these All right, so it'll be a little behind guys, but it is what it is That one's cool. They're like Cubs colors. Yeah Yeah, true. True. True. It's a good point. Oh sheets Janderan is a Josh. Whoa one out of ten a L East on the gold obsidian rookie auto Nice one there. That is Brian Hayes Hello eBay 101 that'd be a kind of a sweet card worry Kevin Smith Marsh and Shane boss. How many trash cans do we fill up a week? God? Oh, man. A lot dude. A lot Who's that? Say it or Mzika. There's an Andre Jackson one of one Andre Jackson go into the NL West Congrats Dustin Holy cow, dude another one That's insane another will another big card dude one of one that time Vladdy What a case dude large new bar. There's a Chas McCormick Not numbered on the Origins auto Ryan belated Yeah, second Origins one of one Howl got the first on Sunday San Martin spectra Jimenez Luis healer rookie Yeah, we hit a wonder RPA redemption Jairan Durand to 199 blue Matt Manning to 50 Hans Kroos There's another Torkelson This time at Jersey car not numbered for the Tigers ale central the Jonathan India. She's no counteroffer option. That's brutal That's so annoying when that happens O'Neill cruise rookie NHL defensive player of the year Spencer Torkelson Brian Hates where thick card coming up here looks like a studio here Bobby Whit rookie silver Ohtani Chas McCormick on the Americas pastime nice one there 81 out of 99 going to the ale West by way of the Astros Louise heal Chas McCormick Tony Santill on NL central on the diamond ticket 15 out of 15 Nice one there. That's sick, dude Shane boss They are very very big for sure Taylor for sure Mookie bats there's a strider again that time to 99 for the NL East. Oh, yeah Charlie Blackman America's pastime Trevor story and Ryan Belade rookie There's so many Like a kid in a candy store Right O'Neill cruise rookie. That's what I always always have my parents give me like three for Christmas. I'm like that. Why not? slow Goldie Vladdie. Oh Yeah, strider magnet always dude always Wanda rookie Suzuki O'Neill cruise There's another wander rookie O'Neill cruise. We've got auto Lopez the 199 on the RPA. That's going to the AL East Nice one there at least and Jaren Durand Oh, yeah They have so many good ones right there That's a good one I've got there. They did like a Miami Vice night.  Oh, yeah, auto auto baby. You know how that goes Hunter green There's a Glenn another auto auto this time Glenn auto four out of 25 going to the AL West Glenn auto auto The doll brew huh Louise heel Kunya new bar Brandon Marsh. There's a Tony Santian and El Central 81 out of 99 Glenn auto auto and a J rod rookie AL West Tony Machado Nolan are not that one stick. We'll save that one to the end. There's a red Jake burger to a hundred Strider Walker Bueller America's past on Jersey for the NLS the Bueller Mike Trout. Was that a green gold Some sort of nice color coming up on this RPA Bobby Whit Abrams Glenn auto Aaron judge Rodolfo Castro two of five Wow, look at the patch on that Dude, that's part of the little pirate guy.  What a patch on that man Holy cow, dude Player one on that two out of five. Let's go It's her Dolpho Castro. Heck. Yeah, man. Oh and he'll cruise right behind it. His buddy It's been a nutty case, dude nutty case That's what I'm saying Joshua might as well pull another one-on-one at this point We've gotten every variation of cards out of this. We've gotten greens golds one-of-ones 25s 49s 75s 99s everything There's a pain your rookie bears Bruhan Achille Badoop and Sean Murphy first there Aaron Ashby America's pastime Shane boss on the autograph six out of 15 nice one there AL East was it a boss? You haven't sheets Nick Allgaier eight out of 25 Al central There's a yachty Jersey America's pastime and Al central Carlos Rodin and yada here Malina. No, it's a really thick one. We'll save that one as well. I'm a sepulchee They luck through silver Acunha and the ground Spencer Strider, of course one Soto not numbered Soto again, there's a Reese Nair NLS not numbered And Hunter green right not numbered as well Big patch on this one other spectra RPA love to see that Spencer Strider to 50 Josiah Gray Lars new bar nice 55 out of 99 three colored RPA Nathan P doing really well at that NL central spot. Congrats, man nice las newt bath and Corbin burns. Hey, Dan just came a member again. What's up, Dan? just the spurs left in Select number 23 Pick your team style break and soon. They are heavily marked down Got pulled some crazy stuff out of select tonight to green corkside rookies. There's a Bobby Whit rookie had one Soto Titan 82 out of 199 Austin Riley and Javi by us or that's Louise Frias 14 out of 49 on the studio auto nice one there NL West Diamondbacks Aaron Ashby their RPA coming up here wander rookie Frias silver Benny Montgomery nice 62 out of 99 on the prospect patch auto On-card going to Dustin K and the NLS nice Benny Montgomery and hell of a break right here Hunter green Kunya, we've got Matt Manning That is a rookie ticket not numbered for the AL central there you go again Ryan Corbin burns. Oh Bobby Whit this time 78 out of 99 nice one there Riley Adams O'Neill cruise America's pastime again O'Neill cruise on the Jersey card not numbered Bogarts and Sean Murphy Jose Ramirez not numbered Brash Kevin Smith Cal Robbie Welker JD and a ground. All right last a box of the break guys We got a quick recap and then we're on to 10 bucks. He said I think that's fine wander rookie 16 Dean 16 boxes in a case of this silver wander rookie There's a card behind there Silver Corbin burns and a Hans Krauss rookie J rod rookie The Mariners AL West Torkelson rookie yellow There's a John Keasley draft ticket or rookie ticket silver going to the AL central Ryan again And Trey Mancini to 99 Maggie Freddie Freeman.  There's a wander Silver Jose Siri We've got a Reed Detmer's very nice lot of peeling on the bottom there though We'll send you an empty box and wrapper 46 out of 49. Sorry about that there AL West Brandon Send you an empty box and wrapper on that one. Yeah, that is pretty good. Tell that is pretty bad right there Say that send that to the AL West. Sorry about that, man Sucks when that happens. Yeah, I know Mookie Betts said Red is Andre Palate Pilante to 199 cardinals Boba Shet America's pastime a least Joey Vado Reed Detmer's rookie and last pack of the break. Good luck here everyone looks like to be a studio potentially Rice Harper that is numbered right there. 67 out of 100 Should be De La Cruz, Kyle Muller going to the NLE 33 out of 49 on the patch auto And Hans Krauss That'll do it for the break guys gonna do a quick recap on your autos I'm not gonna say the division got Reed Detmer's Kyle Muller John Heasley Matt Manning Benny Montgomery Louise Frias Lars Newt Bar Shane Boz Tony Santheon Glenn Otto Otto Lopez Tony Santheon Chas McCormick Chas McCormick Josh Lodoten Louise Frias Thomas Sopucky Jake Myers AJ Lexi Reese Nair Nutty case dude five mags coming in after Spencer Torkelson Dom Smith Zach Short Michael McGreevy Ronnie Dawson CJ Abrams Joe Barlow Jose Miranda Mason Thompson Louise Frias Eli Morgan Vidal Bruhan Edwin Nunez Cracked Ice Reverson Martin Lars Newt Bar Matt Manning Reed Detmer's Lucius Fox, Manny Machado, Juan Yepes to 10, Shane Boz, Ridolfo Castro to five that thing's absolutely disgusting Then we had our mags cards one of one Andre Jackson We had a Bobby Whit jr. Eight out of 25 one off Jersey number O'Neill Cruz To 199 a Wanda Franco and a Jeremy Pena That'll do for the break guys. Thanks again for the fill next up 10 Box Tuesday


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