I welcome members to the fifth meeting in 2015 of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee and ask members to turn off mobile phones please. Gender item one is a decision on taking business in private. It's proposed that we take items five and six in private. Item five is consideration of a draft report on the Assisted Suicide Scotland Bill and item six is consideration of the committee's second quarterly report for the parliamentary year 2014-15. Do we agree to take these in private please? Thank you. Gender item two then is a instrument subject to affirmative procedure and we begin with the Firefighters Pension Scheme, Consequential Provision Scotland Regulations 2015 draft. Regulation 13 refers to an upper till upper tier ill health pension. That term is not defined in the regulations or in the Firefighters Pension Scheme, Scotland Regulations 2015, which were laid in Parliament after the present regulations and respect of which the present regulations make consequential provision. Those later regulations refer instead to a higher tier ill health pension. Terminology used in the present instrument is inconsistent without using the instrument and respect of which it makes consequential provision. The term upper tier ill health pension as used in regulation 13 is accordingly unclear. Does the committee therefore agree to draw the instrument to the attention of the Parliament under reporting ground H as the meaning of regulation 13 could be clearer? Further matter has been raised by our legal advisers. These regulations were laid before the Parliament on 14 January 2015. The regulations containing the new Firefighters Pension Scheme were subsequently laid on 26 January 2015. The lack of clarity in regulation 13 could have been avoided had the new scheme regulations been laid prior to or at the same time as the present regulations. The commitment given by the Minister for Parliamentary Business in session 3 to the effect that the Scottish Government would avoid staggering the laying of related instruments where possible has not been met in this case. I think that there is a patent error of process in that it makes no sense for consequential provisions to be laid before the instrument to which they are consequential is available for consideration. That may or may not have practical implications because you cannot determine that at the point that you are looking at a consequential provision. I make this comment in relation to the Firefighters Pension Fund, the current agenda item, but also the subsequent ones on the national health service pension scheme, police pensions consequential provisions, teachers pension consequential provisions are all caught with the same remark. I think that it is important that we communicate in an appropriate way with the policy committee so that if, at the point that they are considering these instruments, they are not in possession of the instrument to which they are consequenced, they should take account of that in their consideration. We should certainly make sure that the Government is aware of our concerns about us as a committee being asked to consider consequences of something that we do not have before us to assess what it is consequences to. I support everything that Stuart Stevenson has said. I agree with him absolutely. We are being invited in agricultural terms to put the cart before the horse and consider consequentials when we do not have the instrument itself. It may be that the lead committee will also find themselves in that position and I do not think that that is a proper position for them to find themselves in. I think that we should alert the lead committee to that possibility and indeed make the Government aware of our concern about this failure in process that is highlighted by Stuart. The committee agreed that I should write to the lead committee about the specific case, write to the Minister of Parliamentary Business about the General Principle and in this particular case write to the Deputy First Minister because it was his department to produce this particular statutory instrument. No formal reporting grounds have been raised by our legal advisers on the national health service pension scheme consequential provision of Scotland regulations 2015 draft nor on the police pensions consequential provision of Scotland regulations 2015 draft. However, as with the previously discussed instruments and the instruments just referred to this committee may consider writing to the Minister for Parliamentary Business and the Deputy First Minister to highlight the matter and to the lead committee specifically to point out our concerns on these instruments. Last session, the Minister for Parliamentary Business gave an undertaking to the committee regarding how packages of instruments would be handled. As mentioned, the Scottish Government undertook to try to avoid wherever possible staggering the laying of instruments that cross refer to one another and the Government undertook to provide the committee with a copy of draft or related instruments that are not ready for making again wherever possible. This did not happen in the case of these instruments. These two sets of regulations refer in many places to the new scheme regulations for the payment of retirement pensions to or inspect of health workers and members of the Police Service of Scotland, which are yet to be finalised. Regulations also modify how various statutory provisions apply to the new scheme. For example, regulations 14 and 15 of the Police Pensions consequential provision of Scotland regulations 2015 refer to the transitional provisions of the new scheme regulations. Better planning and preparation of the instruments could have avoided the potential anomaly of determining whether consequential provisions are satisfactory prior to the scrutiny of the regulations pertaining to the new pension scheme for which they relate. A timing and laying of packages of instruments was previously raised by the committee with the Minister for Parliamentary Business in relation to the Children's Hearing Scotland Act 2011, safeguard as further provision regulations 2012, SSI 2012, 336, and the Town and Country Planning and Miscellaneous Amendment Scotland regulations 2012, SSI 2012, 325. Those instruments also raised some general issues as to the programming of subordinate legislation. Does the committee therefore agree to write to those ministers and to the committee drawing their attention to all these instruments? I agree and could I just say that it's perhaps something that we should consider putting into our annual report this weakness of process. Failure might be too strong a word but nonetheless there is an opportunity for it turning into a shambles and we are only seeking to avoid that so I think we should highlight it wherever we can. No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the teacher's pension scheme, consequential provisions Scotland Regulation 2015 draft, nor on the land and building transaction tax, sub-sale development relief and multiple dwellings relief, Scotland Order 2015 draft, is the committee content with those instruments please. Item 3, instrument subject to negative procedure, no points have been raised by our legal advisers on the Plant Health Scotland Amendment Order 2015, SSI 2015-10, nor on the Revenue Scotland First Planning Period Order 2015, SSI 2015-16, is the committee content with those please. Item 4, instruments not subject to any parliamentary procedure, no points have been raised by our legal advisers on the Marriage and Civil Partnership Scotland Act 2014, Commencement No. 4 and Saving Provision Order 2015, SSI 2015-14, and on the Land and Build Tax Scotland Act 2014, Commencement No. 2 Order 2015, SSI 2015-17, nor on the Revenue Scotland and Tax Pires Act 2014, Commencement No. 3 Order 2015, SSI 2015-18, is the committee content with those instruments. Thank you very much. That brings us to agenda item 5 and I move the meeting into private.


Alright cameras ready. Hey, Mike.  What you been doing with this dog?  He's scared of the life out of me All right, and we are back with scary tick tocks number five. Wow. We've come a long way It's been a memory when we first started 1994 We're way old now. We're past our time Yeah, okay, so today um I actually grabbed a couple of like the lights are off videos Which are always fire and then we got some new channels that I found, you know We're trying out like some new stuff. There's some new heat out there That's pretty cool that you know like we should watch and also if you guys know of any other tick-tock pages that we should check out They have like co-animations and all that let us know in the comments below or you can tell them I'm tick-tocking all that alright, so go follow us that means that let's go ahead and begin the video Oh lights are off. Oh That's a chupacabra, bro. That's the goat. That's a chupacabra, bro. Oh my It's kind of cute though. I always wanted a pet goat like a baby goat Yeah, they're pretty dope like the jumping ones. Yeah, the door goats. They jump over the ones that pass out Oh, they yeah, they get scared Okay, I don't want a baby goat. That looks like Momo's dog or something. Remember Momo? That does look like Momo Look what the heck is that? That was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Oh, see that's a new channel right here. Oh shout out to Alexie Enzi Probably from New Zealand Maybe as I'm thinking oh, oh, so we're watching Fast and the Furious now No, so do like this guy does these animations and they're really good. They're really good Yeah, that look pretty cool. It looks like a movie scene Don't flip bro that's some GTA stuff right there. That's what I'd be doing on GTA. I wish I could do that in GTA Bro imagine that in real life Everybody dies Yo, so these type of videos like they give me the chills, bro Like imagine we were that close to like the moon. Yeah, and then like it would go that fast Be like, bro, let's go outside and look at the moon. Oh That would be cool Like it's just orbiting Super fast. Oh Okay, I see the details Don't keep going cool. There we go. Bye. Bye moon. See you later. That was a dope. That was pretty cool Stop going. Okay Now wait for the next rotation That the moon again Wait, it looks like it has a face Okay, no What is that? Oh, they're splitting up. What is that? Oh Bro, it's aliens brown top of the moon. What you mean? Well, they're landing on the moon, bro They're landing on them. Well, I wonder if you can see stuff like that. Like if you have a telescope Scary Oh He gets death, you know such a dark person What That got me like, I don't know. I'm going to expect. Oh, oh And I would have been terrified of us and now let's see if we would survive this crash So like right here, I'm gonna have to see my lot. Oh, I thought I was gonna keep going I'm gonna explain how it's gonna survive. Oh Oh But they go at it.   We're all you're in the middle of the ocean. All right. We got to square up guys blow them up Fight to death.  That's a space X. Hey, bro. Jeff Bezos going to space right now Yeah, I don't think that was Jeff Bezos. Oh, he made it back. I still need my discount My friend delivery We what oh It's collapsing This I could make it like a movie a game anything It's pretty cool. I gotta go follow him on this Oh We're not a space now this is Jeff Bezos, bro One small step for me, dude. How do you think it is to be yours flat the earth is not flat? Oh, that's a good drill It was gonna happen on this and I haven't seen this one. Oh It's a satellite. Oh And it's cool because there's no sound. Yeah, exactly. That's how it would be you can't hear sounds in space.  Don't like if this was real like that debris would be like just floating in space forever He won't be floating in space or every six days, bro Imagine you're stuck in space. Just like doing three sixties forever Okay, this was a lot of musk to see if he makes it to space Let's go Eli. Oh, that looks like it's coming back down It's going slow, huh? Oh Slowly push early. Oh, yeah exe mode There goes bye-bye Another one Houston we have a problem. Oh He made it he didn't make it Thought he blew up. Now you got off of the ship before it blew up. That's why he jumped out the window, huh?  Oh, I knew it. Oh Dude, what would you do if you were the astronaut, bro? I feel like you're gonna die either way cuz like all the debris Oh I didn't see that part Bro, just jump off the moon and float out. I don't think it would get there that fast though. Yeah, it's a little exaggerated Do a flip. Oh, yeah, I guess maybe baby crashes this time Or I probably put the video place I thought it was gonna crash Come on.   Yeah This is noodle and bun. Okay, so these ain't scary, but They're pretty cool though. They're pretty cool video noodle and bun That's for the cat people this is for the cat people Oh little mouse Why it's a cat like He escaped I want to do this with my camera But I don't want to shake them that hard There's a cat is so fat And I can't get all the mouse to It's just bouncing man feels no okay, so he said just random videos I found let's see Mascre's off bear I feel like I would be like this guy like I just wouldn't move And then like I probably try to pet him There for like you might die brother. You're scared. They'll attack you. Yeah, that's what I'm saying It's probably raccoon now do not yet see more bro. It's probably a raccoon, bro That pennywise The buzz do the T-pose He's gonna do the T-pose Everything's moving behind them Goes caught on camera, you know three out because it had a red arrow He just wants some Cheerios, bro.  What size is that? I'm out of the room. I'm out the window out the roof. I don't care. I don't care. I'm getting out of there, man Yeah, I'm coming ghostbusters Do go better not real bro. Come on. Excuse me. It's not real. I'm sorry to break you Ghostbusters There might be some people impersonating ghostbusters calling themselves ghostbusters Hey, those shows are pretty cool like the ghostbusters shows. Yeah They're pretty dope Probably all fake though. Maybe They still do the job though. They get too scared. All right, you guys won't know where scary tiktoks and funny and random ones Running out of videos guys. We watched all the animated ones It's hard to come across channels that post scary stuff that are good because there's a lot of channels or pages that post up But they're like not good, you know, yeah, they're like whatever I don't know man. All right, you guys. Well, thank you guys for watching Thank you all for the amazing support as always. We appreciate it for the bottom of our hearts That means so much to us Anything you want to say Mike go follow us on bootleg heroes and pixel game squad Which is our other two channels the links will be in the bio So go and support also because it helps us out. I support the man Well, thank you guys for watching and we'll catch you on the next one. Peace


All right everyone. Welcome back. It's Professor Howard. Let's go through the basic anatomy of a graph. In order to communicate with a behavior analyst, you have to speak our language and more often than not the language that we're going to be speaking is data. So let me introduce you to our first graph. If you've watched the previous videos, then you recognize that this is a comparison design. What I'm showing you on screen here is a kind of pre-post measure. I have a simple line graph here where on the left axis or the Y axis, I'm showing you the number of smiles that the client emits. Along the X axis, the horizontal axis along the bottom is typically going to be a time measurement. Now this one is blank, but it could be sessions or days or weeks, something of that nature. What I'm showing you is a baseline condition here, four observations and a no praise condition. I'm showing you one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight observations and a praise condition. And we see that in the no praise baseline condition, our observations are in order two, one, two, zero. In the praise condition, seven, nine, eight, eight, nine, eight, seven, eight. And we have these conditions separated by a dotted line, which is pretty common to clearly communicate to the viewer that the condition has changed. So in this design or in this graph, what you want to know is on the Y axis, typically this is the dependent variable. This is the behavior that we were interested in measuring. In this case, we're talking about the number of smiles. In the conditions that we report here, you sometimes won't be able to tell which one is baseline and which one is treatment. The way that I can tell is that if you have something here like praise, and the comparison is no praise, like the absence of this variable, then typically anything that says no is probably going to be the natural condition. And so this is probably going to be the baseline condition. Now it's not impossible, for instance, for these to have been switched around and for you to start with a praise condition to immediately start with treatment and then remove treatment. But for the most part, I can conclude that anything with no is probably baseline. And then from there, this looks like my independent variable, which is present during the treatment condition. What we're looking at to evaluate here is the effect of the treatment on the dependent variable to see if there's any change in the rate of the behavior after praise is applied for the behavior of interest, the number of smiles. So this was a very simple comparison design. Let me give you another one. What I'm showing you here is a reversal design. And you can tell it's a reversal design because again, we conclude here that the the one with no name waking is probably the treatment condition and behavior analysts abbreviate the word treatment TX. So this is the treatment condition. And then on either side of the treatment condition, we have no waking conditions. So in this first condition, we have a no waking condition. In the middle condition, we have waking. And then in the last condition, we have a no waking condition. So it looks like a nice little sandwich of conditions with waking being the treatment. On my y axis, the left axis, remember that y is high, we have the behavior of interest, the minutes weighted. And we don't know exactly what the study is. So we're not sure what the phenomenon of interest is or why they're measuring minutes weighted, but just that this is the dependent measure. And again, remember on the x axis, x is that horizontal one, it typically refers to the time or how often the data were collected. And in this case, we see that days is how often data were collected. So here I know my dependent measure, my dependent variable is the number minutes weighted. I know my independent variable or treatment is whatever waking is. And then finally remember that many of these are line graphs. So I'm showing you a baseline condition, a treatment condition and a reversal to baseline condition. And this is probably nine, 12, 14, 16, 14. This treatment condition is probably one, maybe five, five, five, four. And then finally into the no waking condition, five, four, eight, seven, eight. And that will be important when we come back to visual analysis. Okay, one super quick reminder, when we say reversal, what that refers to is the environment. It's the reversal to baseline conditions. It is not a guarantee that the behavior is going to return to baseline conditions. So don't anticipate or don't count on behavior going back to baseline levels. Let's do one more because so far we've had a comparison design, we've had a reversal design. Now let's look at the multiple baseline design. Multiple baseline design is different in that it has, like the name would suggest, multiple baselines. So in this case, we have a multiple baseline across participants. In this case, we're talking about Miguel and Carla here. I'm showing you two line graphs stacked on each other. The y axis, remember left side y axis, y is high, shows me my dependent variable, which is the number of books read. My x axis, the horizontal on the bottom shows me the time measurement, which is how many books are read per week. And then in going back to our condition labels, we can see that we have one that says no, meaning that something is not in place. And we have just a condition label here that is that description. So in the left condition, we have no book at program. And in the right condition, we have the book at program. This was a popular program in the 90s and late 80s to get kids to read. I think it might still be being done in various points or various places throughout the US. However, remember, if we have no, we can have some pretty reasonable belief that this is the baseline condition. And then whatever that intervention is, is probably the treatment condition. The other critical feature of the multiple baseline design is not only do you have multiple participants or behaviors or settings, but you have to have, you must have stagger, you have to have the stagger. Because if you don't have stagger, if you don't have stagger, you can't show that the behavior changes when and only when treatment is put into place. So let me say that one more time. Behavior improves when treatment is put into place, but it changes only when treatment is put into place. We see that for Miguel, in the period of time when Miguel has not started treatment, his behavior remains relatively unchanged. But for Carla, when she starts the book at program, there's an increase in the number of books read. Now, if you would benefit from having a visually impaired version of these slides, something that's going to show you all the data in the information point by point, let me know. In this case, we have many of the same features. We have that y-axis tells you your behavior of interest or your dependent variable. We have the condition labels. So again, we have the no something in the something. So this is the baseline condition. And this is the treatment condition. We have participants here that's something new that's in multiple baseline designs. The dotted line, as always, indicates when treatment begins. And we have to have a stagger of three or more observations. We see we have exactly three here. We need three or more observations because three points make a trend. Alright, so that is super basic, super simple graph anatomy. Let me know if you guys have any questions. Otherwise, I'll see you next time.


Live from the San Jose Convention Center, extracting the signal from the noise, it's theCUBE, covering Hadoop Summit 2015, brought to you by headline sponsor Hortonworks, and by EMC, Pivotal, IBM, Pentaho, Teradata, Syncsort, and by Atunituan Disco, now your hosts, John Furrier and George Gilbert. Hello, everyone, welcome to theCUBE. This is SiliconANGLE Media's flagship program. We go out to the events and extract the signal from the noise. We are here live in Silicon Valley in San Jose Convention Center for Hadoop Summit 2015. We've broadcasted every single Hadoop Summit since it's been in its inception, when Hortonworks spun out of Yahoo, and it's been a great industry conference. We're going to hear for three days of wall-to-wall coverage with theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, the founder of SiliconANGLE. I'm your host, George Gilbert, our big data analyst at Wikibon, and our guest analyst today, CEO, founder, former practitioner at Bank of America, Abhimeda. Guys, welcome to the kickoff segment for Hadoop Summit. Again, live in Silicon Valley on the edge, the big data space, we've got Spark Summit coming up next week in San Francisco. So much going on in the industry right now. Hadoop Summit is where all the action is. We'll be covering it to you, but guys, I got to ask you perspective. I mean, the analytics business. Hadoop has been created a huge innovation cycle, but are we stalled? Are we in transition? The word, transformations up on stage. Rob Beard, the CEO of Hortonworks, talking about transformation. Enterprise is ready. It's almost like rah, rah, you know, kumbaya, Hadoop. We made it, we're making it. It certainly has made it, but a lot's changed. Are we in a shifting of the tides, of the winds? Abhi, what's your take? You're on the ground floor, you're at a company you're running, self-funded triseta, doing very well. Thank you. No outside capital. No outside capital. As you're talking to customers, you're getting paid for your services, so you are getting paid for the value, you're creating value. What's it like on the front lines right now? With Hadoop and the big data ecosystem, are we in transition? Is it evolving? Is it growing? Is it shifting? What's your analysis? The sense we get, John, first of all, it's always good to be back. It's good to join a really cool crew, looking sharp as always. Thanks for dropping the tie. I get a hard time from my friends. Whenever you wear a tie, I get a hard time. I never wear a tie. The analysts wear the tie. I'm sure they can tell you. But what a seminal moment. We have known each other for almost six years now. And the first time we spoke Hadoop, there was one company trying to commercialize it. The second company, which has now since gone public, I think this is the first queue at Hadoop Summit since Hortonworks has gone public. And what a huge sense of achievement for them, for the ecosystem. Mancudos to Rob and his team to have taken a very, very interesting player all the way to the ultimate culmination of innovation as a new enterprise going IPO. We are definitely, I would say we've hit the wall. I would not say that we have hit the peak of innovation. I think we're shifting errors. We're shifting the errors of going from the building blocks of data analytics to what I call the new era of automated intelligence. It's a less scarier explanation of the term AI that a lot of people have since spoken about. So you're definitely seeing the early starts just like we predicted six years ago. We're seeing the start of the next industrial revolution, data being the raw material. I think this is the next era in that same revolution where massive amounts of automation will enable every single industry, every single company, and every single player in the ecosystem to automate hitherto complex, manual, and human processes. That is the ultimate pinnacle of this revolution. Well George is new to the team, SiliconANGLE Media, Wikibon, and also Big Data, but he wrote a really amazing paper around systems of intelligence, something that we've been ticking around. You put a box around it. IBM calls it cognitive computing, automating intelligence. This is the future. George, I mean the vendors here, I mean we've always been saying consolidation, consolidation, consolidation, but still growth. Not necessarily negative growth, consolidation, yard sale, it's evolution. So I want to get your take on one, systems of intelligence, what you mean by that. And then your outlook for this industry right now because it seems to me there's a wind blowing, there's a smell in the air of money and growth. Yet the vendors are jockeying for position as the NASCARs and the cars on the track. Who's got the drafting, who's leading, slingshotting back and forth. We seem to see players pimping themselves up to be bought, some are positioning for IPOs, some are trying to figure out their future. So talk about systems of intelligence, that vision, and where the players are, then we can discuss who's winning. Okay, it's kind of a perfect segue for me to paint a broad picture of systems of intelligence and Abby's a great guest because he can tell us about what he's built, which fits right into that. Systems of intelligence, the way we see them, are natural outgrowth of the original systems of record like ERP systems. That became systems of engagement when you had a consumer quality AI that sort of gave the user an immersive experience. The systems of intelligence come in when you can bring to bear the analytics in real time to anticipate and influence what the consumer might do. And you can also spin it around backwards and look at internet of things and respond in real time. But where we are in the platforms to support that, platforms always come together out of a fragmented set of pieces where one or a couple of vendors will bring those together in an integrated hub. And right now, we look at, let's say the three major distro vendors, MapR, Cladera, Hortonworks, and they all talk about having this data hub, but if you open the covers a little bit, it's really not a product, it's an ecosystem. And the way they're building out these ecosystems, all these Apache products, they're dumping essentially a lot of complexity on the administrators and on the developers. And that's retarding the growth of this. And it's companies like Abbey that's sort of curating the pieces. And to some extent actually opting for alternative platforms. Well, let's talk about that because Abbey's company, Traseda, okay? When we just last year, watching our segment coming in, driving in from last year, we talked specifically about enterprise softwares change. How it's developed, delivered, and sold. Completely radically changed. You addressed that. Go to last year's video, Abbey Metta, to get a real deep dive on that. But that is changing the application business. So one of the challenges that we see here at Hadoop Summit and through this past year throughout our many CUBE interviews is that the application developers, AKA the workload is in charge. So as an entrepreneur, you have investment in building software, enterprise software. When you walk in the front door, while you're cutting the line, if you will, right to the ivory tower, you've got the big banks and retails because of your software, you got to deal with a lot of legacy stuff to integrate. So do you write that software? Does the customer write the software? That's friction in my mind. So comment on that. And are we stalled waiting for cloud to catch up? So I mean, I love the vision of, that's automated intelligence, but if you can't get the data and you got to build connectors to some legacy systems, whether it's systems management, some storage. Now you got Flash and Spark. I mean, there's so much software being, that needs to be written. You can almost spend the year writing software just to get up and running. So what's your take on all that? Excellent point. Let's start with the vision. The vision at Triseta has been quite simple. In fact, I was reminded of it talking to the CEO of a bank here in the US a few weeks ago. And he said, why is it that when I was searched for a restaurant or a movie to go to, I can power up this very simple interface, type up a query that, exactly how I would speak out language and get an answer. But when I have to go seek an answer to, how much deposits do I have in a particular market? What was my customer service ratings from my customers for a particular region? I can't get an answer. It seems like an act of God almost for large enterprises to seek clarity from the mountains of data. Why can't I solve that problem? That in a nutshell explains the vision of Triseta. There are three underlying components that need to be enabled, created, curated, or put together depending on which part of the ecosystem you're in for actually making that vision happen, which is transforming enterprises into intelligence engines where anybody in the enterprise, anybody, the CEO, the person watching the gate when someone walks in knowing that this person could be a bad actor or not, that person in risk or fraud can get answers to their questions in a very easy interface. The first building block for that is what you call cloud. And at this point, I've stopped calling it cloud because I think there's a, as I was saying before we start the segment, there's probably a greater chance at this point to convince humanity that there is one God and there is to convince them there'll be one cloud. But infrastructure as a service, where I refer to it, to enable applications that have automated complex human process. Question you asked me yesterday is analytics a process or a product? I told you my answer. It is the automation of complex human processes. That's what analytics ultimate vision and ambition should be. You, it is very hard to your point, John, to deploy those intelligence engines, automated intelligence engines in large enterprises when the infrastructure isn't ready for it. It is not just friction. It is a, it is a cost, a tremendous cost to speed to market. You cannot deploy analytics and intelligence today or seek to deploy it today, wait for 12, 24 months for it to get deployed because by that time, the consumer's already gone. So that's the first building block. You have to be able to be able to an open intended dock your application seamlessly into multiple and viable environments. Both private infrastructure as a service and public infrastructure as a service. And it has to happen. So two questions for you guys. One, one came up from Courtney Anders who works for platformer yesterday on the crowd chat we had with Cisco at Cisco Live Analytics. And she said, how real is the concept of citizen data scientist? Is anyone seeing this trend? It's kind of a softball. So hold on for that for a second. Then the other one was when we dropped the word big data from big data. So thoughts on that.  Big money, big data. It represents something so fundamentally different John. Sorry to interrupt you, but that big data for me since day one represents two major changes.  From storage all the way to PR. And secondly, there is a voluminous trend around data that allows us to understand the citizen data scientist themselves much better and arm the citizen data scientist to take action very quickly. Which you cannot represent simply with the word data or BI or any new word we may come up with. I think people has become sexy and fashionable to bash the word big data, but 6,000 people wouldn't be here. But for that word, which fundamentally represents a Darwinian shift in the technology ecosystem we grew up in. So the cloud, you mentioned that's going to be there. This brings up the internet of things conversation. You saw Rob Bearden with Hortonworks. He looked like John Chambers up there. He was delivering really confident. He had spring to a step, really connecting with the audience. I thought Rob Bearden's keynote here this morning was fantastic. You know, you're seeing the internet of things. He brings that up with sensors. Is the internet of things important with Spark and other technologies around the corner? How hyped up is internet of things?  You got the eye watch, mine's on its way here, but you are seeing human aspects of internet of things. Humans are things, machines are things. This is a really big hot area. Yes. Thoughts? Trusita, I personally, you as well, we have never changed the buzzword. You asked me a question last month that was here on your show and you said, what do you think about machine learning? And I said another buzzword that everybody's chasing. Fundamentally, we all agree and we have to take it back to business value. There is tremendous business value waiting to be unearthed, unleashed, and discovered from the internet of things, people, devices, robots, and intergalactic equipment. Whatever you want to call them. It doesn't matter what label we put towards it. The question fundamentally becomes, is the question we ask ourselves at Trusita and other participants in the ecosystem, Clodero and Hortonworks together have done something quite amazing which we have never seen before in our evolution or my lifetime of technology. Not only have both of them become the fastest growing enterprise software companies in history, they have shortened the timeframe to lay down the foundations, the groundwork of a wave of innovation that still is yet to be unleashed, right? The Darwinian moment, the Galapagos has been built, but the reproduction hasn't begun yet. Why? The question becomes why? And the answer is quite simple. If you go back to business value, delivering business value, irrespective of IoT, IOP, data lake, data oceans, you know, a lake, a term I never liked, I liked data oceans a lot better, irrespective of the buzzwords, the terminology and the tooling, what I go back to is, you look at Red Hat, and Red Hat after 15 years is worth $10 billion of market cap.  IBM and Oracle were concerned and Red Hat emerged as a trap. What we all have forgotten is that the market value that IBM and Oracle garnered because of Red Hat's implementation of a vastly superior and distributed infrastructure dispersion model enabled them to create hundreds of billions of value. Hordeworks and Clarera, I'm sorry, Hordeworks and Clarera have already become billion dollar companies. They absolutely deserve the valuations. We have three minutes left. The question is, where are the $100 billion companies in this ecosystem? I know you want to say that. And that's what we come up with. So I want to get a couple more points and I want George to chime in on this. $100 billion companies, you mentioned Oracle, IBM, the big whales, I mean, Azure's doing great. So what are the stars? We were just commenting about Databricks and these other companies that are out there where, you know, it's hard for these guys to survive when Amazon's going to just replicate their features. So two things, guys, how does the startup survive when the winds are shifting? That's an opportunity as well. And two, there's a huge M&A boom going on right now. Oracle's going to be a player. IBM's already a player.  VMware is going to be running like the wind. Guys, startups, how do they compete? If not, consolidation certainly is going to be on the horizon. Thoughts, George? How did you go for it, George? Where we talk about the Hadoop distro of players as platforms and we talk about reaching sort of mainstream acceptance, crossing the chasm, if we remember, it requires that bowling alley success that one key economic application which we think is data warehouse offload. But we also recognize that that platform isn't fully mature and alternatives like Databricks are sort of appealing to customers who say, I want a much simpler developer and administrator experience that also happens to have greater productivity. Where do you see that in terms of affecting sort of the trajectory we're on with the platforms? John, I first have to say I'm quite disappointed. There are only three minutes left and I remember John Cleese getting equally upset. Yeah, get your water there. I've got my water over here. Too much to say in three minutes. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. That was one of the best ever interviews on theCUBE. Mine included, but what a good job you did with John. Excellent. That was so humble of you, yours included. Humility is overrated in the world, you know? Competition, only the best survive. So startups, M&A. Yes. Yeah, let's get into that. Here's my perspective. I'm a huge fan of any innovative ecosystem being developed grounds up, especially when it goes after enabling the delivery, the deployment, and the complete re-engineering. Actually, in some cases, rebuilding of insight in large enterprises. Databricks fits that mold. Huge fan of Databricks. And what they've done in Spark in months is what we so happen with Hadoop and Edge DFS ecosystem in years, which is just the base of innovation. To answer John's question, I've said this for a long time and I'll say it again. If you're building a company, if you're building a startup today in these tiers, BI, what was called BI, analytics, databases, ETL, and storage, don't. You cannot, they're free. They're tools and you cannot build companies on tools. You have to rise above the traditional analytics stack. Cloudera and Horton runs. That was true in the last generation for the most part. It was true. It was incredibly true for the last generation because think of it. What we're doing in this current revolution is automating the last remaining vestige of global GDP. Agriculture got automated, manufacturing got automated. This is the era to automate complex human processes, AK services, right? So the ability to go and sell tools is over. The ultimate BI platform is called a white page with a rectangular bar in the middle. You don't need more complex reporting or BI. So if you're building a company as a startup in those tiers, you're done, you're dead. Don't build a company in those tiers. So the advice you get is you've got to be able to find immense business value around human processes, everything from fraud to, you know, the internet of things to server management, transforming the way products are built, delivered and sold and priced in a way with technology and automation never seen before. And that is what we call advanced analytical applications. And we've done a very good job with it. So where are the hermaphrodites? So to your point about value, your company goes in, land and expand, you win on the merits of your product. You mentioned Databricks and the platforms of all the companies out there where they have great beach head in a narrow segment scope. And their goal as a startup is to sequence to a broader position platform, if you will.  So you're always at risk unless you're highly differentiated. Absolutely. Amazon Oracle, these guys just build that out over time. That's how it goes. So the question is how do companies in this market use the benefit of open source to get into the market fast, create some value, and land and then sequence to a platform and or a broader differentiated position? Excellent question. There are questions, every time we build something at Truseta, we ask ourselves the question, what unique advantage will we have if we engineer a certain intelligent feature in the product? And if the answer is within in less than six months if there's a chance for it to either be open sourced or to sustain itself in a more richer way in open source, we will not build it. I'll give you a great example. Seeker on a Hadoop, right? Leaving us out of the fact that I think it's mating in a rat with an elephant and the results will not be pretty, it has become the lingua franca of Hadoop as well. If you want to query data in Hadoop, not do analytics, you've got to seek on Hadoop. So when you start thinking around feature versus functionality versus automating intelligence, three pivots of building companies around it, if you're in the first two, you have a very, very low chance of survival. So if you're building a company for security on Hadoop, for Seeker on Hadoop, for running open source algorithms in Hadoop, you will be consumed by open source. You will not build a viable business model around it. However, if you're building an intelligence engine to solve anti-money laundering in Hadoop, if you're building a intelligence engine to go automate armichile marketing at Hadoop, you've now delivered Day Ziva when you go live into an enterprise, tremendous business value to unearth intelligence and convert insight for customers. There is no other way. It's not that complex. You don't have to boil the ocean to get in. You can come in on a very narrow value proposition, develop value like you guys do and a lot of other practitioners do or technologists do. Absolutely. And then, but you have to go to the next level. You have to. So I got to ask you as more of an historic industry, historic industry visionary, as well as someone who's been in the space, what's revolutionary right now? I mean, like, pretend that I'm a VC or we're at a board meeting, our own partnership. We have a VC firm and we're trying to pick the winners. We talked about this last year, our VCs kind of don't get this new model. Some do, some don't. Most don't, but it's hard to pick the next unicorn if you will or as they say. What's the revolutionary big play? What's the big push for startups right now? This is one area where I love the success and you think there's a bubble going on in the valley. I love the success of the B2C companies. The proof in what will revolutionize enterprise software, the blueprint for the revolutionary enterprise software companies is in companies like Uber and Airbnb. For the design of the apps or for the service itself? Yeah, so for the ability to decouple hard assets from soft service where the customer gets value but you actually don't own the asset. A great example for it. In enterprise software, anti-money laundering is a, we launched something at Spark Summit. I think I mentioned it to you where we became the first anti-money laundering engine in the market to take a complex human process. On average, a large financial institution having four to 6,000 humans looking at suspicious activity reports to investigate a false positive that is thrown away from some seemingly inept software solution around AML. If you can take away the hard asset which is in this case people, technology and the operational centers, split that up into a technology framework where you're delivering a service without the need to build or own the hard asset, that's the future. So ability to take the actual process, split up, going on everywhere, right? You look at networking, the same thing. You've split up infrastructure from the service, from the software layer. The ability to do the same thing in enterprise software is going to be the future. And the answer will go and rely not in the traditional stack where you might keep going. Database functions, ETNO. They'll be in business functions. Fraud, risk, pricing, underwriting, management. That's where you have to look to automate those processes. And you got to be an expert in the field. George, I want to get your take next on your view of the world. Also you got a research agenda. What are you looking for here at the show and put that across industry wide? Put the puzzle out. What's your mental puzzle and what puzzle pieces are you gathering to put the picture together for your research? I guess I look at, interesting that Abby brought up Red Hat, that I look at the Hadoop distros as potentially like Red Hat enablers. But because of the economic model, they're not going to be 50 billion dollar companies, but they enable these new class of applications and sort of that's where the value adds going to be. So synergistic impact, not so much direct P&L. Yes, enablers, literally enablers. And it's not the latest whizzy machine learning algorithm. It's applying it to a particular domain that becomes the value. And that's where we may not see huge companies, but we'll see a lot of very valuable companies. So what signals are you looking for here at the show and in the industry as we go to Spark Summit next week and a variety of other events, big guys and little guys, George, what are the things that gets your attention? That's a good move by that customer or that's a good move by that company. What are some of the things that you look for, for the companies that are really poised to break out and be leaders and the ones that might not be? Put you on the spot here. Okay. Sort of the things that Abby's doing where you build on a platform that enables you to do these, you said it more eloquently than I can, but where you're applying this intelligence at the point of interaction. So it might be evaluating credit card fraud in real time. It might be handling omnichannel retailing or banking, but you need a platform that lets you apply customer profile information, for example, at real time with the analytics that inform and influence the customer's interaction. Well let's go there with 360 degree of view of the customer a term that I actually don't like because the customer's 360 view changes significantly every minute they take a step in real time, not in real time. So Abby, answer that question that George was putting together in terms of what signals do you look for companies, your peers? Now take your CEO entrepreneur hat off, put your cube analyst hat on, identify, what are the right moves, what are the right signals when someone's got a certain outfit on, got the right running shoes there, are they running fast? And then two, talk about this 360 degree view of data. Don't like the term 360 degree view either. You're not agreed too much. We need to have a fight like you and John had. We call it total view of customer. We call it exactly what you said, understanding customer behavior. So three things we look for. And this is three things not thinking us, thinking of myself as just hard. Thanks for pushing me there about to say that. Deep domain knowledge. Extremely deep domain knowledge around specific, large scale human processes. It could be anything. It could be the process of making coffee. It could be the process of managing fraud. It could be the process of delivering an offer. Second, what I call are you from the BC or AD era of technology? BC being before cutting and AD being after dug. If you're in the BC era, which is, if you started a company before Hadoop, came onto the scene, you're done. Not worth it. Don't even look at them, it's a story that's very, very hard to tease out. And lastly, the ability and the starts to automate intelligence. And what that means is a science that fundamentally does what Google has taught us so eloquently, which is big data and simple algorithms will trump the most complex algorithms. So any company that comes around and says we have the smartest AI engine, throw them out. Doesn't matter. Big data of the Trump small algorithms. We have to wrap real quick. Last word is analytics, a product or process? It is a process. Analytics is the ultimate, ultimate business revolution that will automate complex human processes using a lot of open source tools and provide answers for humanity that could not have been provided before. And the application could be the product of the analytics. So process first, product second. Not product first, process second. Okay, this is the cue. We went a little bit long on Abhi Mada and George because the insight is amazing here in theCUBE. Again, this is theCUBE. We're here for three days wall-to-wall coverage. We'll be live. We'll be right back here in Silicon Valley after this short break.


Hello everybody, welcome to our Monday deep dive on Michael Ross and old Trinity Church. I did try really hard to make this video YouTube friendly, but unfortunately due to the context of this story, this video had to go on rumble. Now, when you follow the rumble link below and you start watching the video, you will see that the words are bleeped out. There's nothing I can do about it. That's how I edit it again to try to get it on YouTube, but it was just too much. So I do apologize, but hopefully you will enjoy the deep dive over on rumble. Thank you so much. Again, the link is in the description box. If you don't see it right away, hit the down arrow or the more button and then you'll see the full link to the description box. Link is always in the description box. So you just have to hit that button so you can see the full box. If you don't see it right away, it's because there's a button that's gonna show you the full box. Anyway guys, thank you so, so, so much and we'll see you over on rumble.


You'd been at this club as chairman and owner in the past and you said the last time that the changing rooms were redeveloped was back in 1985. And there's a funny story about this gentleman Ian Almond Royde sat next year. Can you tell us a bit about it? It's a good story. The changing rooms in 1985 were disgraceful.  And we don't know where we were going to come from to do them. A oedd, Ean Omenryd yn Ostonvilla. Mae'r oedden i'r oedden oedd Ean Omenryd. A'n amlwg i'n ymddangol i fynd i'r llwydd. Mae'n gweinwch i'r haf. Mae'n rhai gweinwch i £650,000. Mae'r rhaid i'r llwydd i'r llwg. Ac i'r hyn o'r rhoi'n gweinwch i'r holl. Ac rydw i'n wneud bod, ac mae'n bwysig i'ch gweithio'n ddiddordeb yn gweithio'n ddiddordeb ar y cael gwahodd. Mae'n bwysig i'ch meddwl i ddim yn bwysig o'r ddiddordeb, oedd yn cymdeithasio ddim yn ei gweithio, ac yn ysgrifennu lle iddyn nhw, mae'n rhai ddiddordeb. Rydyn ni'n ddiddordeb. A oes yn fy ngwneud ti'n gweithio i'w en. Ac mae'n gweithio'n gweithio i'n gweithio. Ond mae'n ddiddordeb yn gweithio i'w en, ac mae'n gwyfetio'n gwneud i fynd yn cael ei ddechrau yn 1985, fel bod y ddechrau yn ymryd i'r llun cyflym yn y ddechrau, i fod yn ei gweithio'r ddevraeth a'r ddefnyddio yn ei gwaith. A dweud yna, mae'n ei gweithio'n gwneud i ddechrau yn cael ei ddechrau a ydych chi'n dweud i ddychrau, ac mae'n cael ei ddechrau, i ddych chi'n gweithio'n gwneud i ddechrau. Cynnyddiwch chi! Gwych, mae'n ddechrau'n gwneud i ddechrau, I went back to the club and said I'm not sure I want to go and Jack and Moislin are the chief scout at the time so I said you don't want to go, you don't want to go. You've got to go to acting and the more I thought about it I knew it was a no brainer really that I had to do it and had to go. It was a massive step in my career as well and it was great to go at it and obviously we did really well there. The first year I was struggling a little bit but the second year we got into Europe and finished second in 1990 and you should have actually won the league that year. It was last time Liverpool won the league in 1990 and we were top with about seven games to go and we blew up at the end unfortunately but we finished second and got into Europe and ended up playing Inter Milan in the European Cup. So Ian got us out of the mile with it. I suppose you've been sitting almost with Bradford City for decades now. Football does repeat itself, history repeats itself. So new changing rooms will have a new scoreboard later this summer, slightly delayed but you were instrumental in the changing rooms and to some extent the scoreboard as well. I think that has something to do with the scoreboard. It might have been paying for it. I just can't remember clearly but anyway we're a good investment and it needed replacing and it's good again. We've experienced some changes this year with new owners coming into the club. You know better than anybody what it's like to run a football club. Have you got any advice you've met Edin and I think you've got in particular? Will there be any advice for the new owners? Well you've got to enjoy it and sometimes you get a lot of pressure. Unfortunately from supporters if you're not doing right well they take a dim view at times and they can upset the chairman and the chairman can think what we've done this for. Anyway we don't want that to happen. One is supporting it behind the new directors and the new owners and behind the team if we lose a few we lose a few and if we get a lot of wins that's all for them. Lastly we've just signed another deal with JCT 600 to be on the front of the shirt sponsors. Your support for the club is unwavering as an individual and as a company. It's unwavering. It's Bradford and we're a Bradford company and we've done very well at Bradford with our business and we like to put a bit back in. That's Jack, you're very welcome. Thank you.


A few days ago, our spotlight was on Hassan Mahdi during an episode of The Open-Minded Thinker Show. Our primary goal was to showcase his journalistic prowess in objective reporting and delve into why he lost his position at MSNBC for asking pertinent questions to an occupation spokesperson regarding alleged cases of genocide. Today, we turn our attention to a critical segment of Hassan's interview with Piers Morgan on his uncensored show, A Segment That Seemingly Vanished. Our dedication remains steadfast in delivering unbiased news and geopolitical analysis. We encourage interaction with our content through likes, shares and subscriptions to stay abreast of developments concerning Palestine. Before we proceed, it's essential to acknowledge Piers Morgan's extensive coverage of the Gaza crisis, often biased towards the occupation's perspective as it conducts one of history's most brutal military operations. While occasionally condemning the IDF's methods as civilian casualties rise, Morgan has shown more support for the occupation and its alleged plans to quell what it deems as a dangerous resistance from Palestine. However, to be fair, Piers has provided a platform for many pro-Palestinian voices amidst the media battle over culpability in the conflict engulfing the region. It was on his show that figures like Muslim apologist and creator Muhammad Hijab and the renowned Norman Finkelstein found a voice. The insights and humour of the Egyptian comedian Bassem Yousef became one of Piers' most watched YouTube videos, amassing a staggering 11 million views in its first two weeks. You're talking in a generalized way about people in the West who always talk about Arabs as savages. I don't. I never have. I actually led the campaign. I led the media campaign in this country against the Iraq War. OK, so I don't see people in the Middle East as savages. You are one of the good ones. I am not talking about you. You're great. No, no. It's not about me being great. We love you. It's about the way Hamas behaved on October the 7th was like savages, like a pack of savages. This virality underscores the broad reach of the message and lays bare the marginalised position of Palestinians for the world to witness. Therefore, we can assert that Morgan has played a pivotal role in amplifying Palestinian voices, shaping the narrative as they persist in resisting the occupation's attempts to stifle their quest for self-determination. Nevertheless, Hassan remained steadfast in his stance on the Palestinian issue while critiquing Piers Morgan's perceived bias. His eloquence dismantled Morgan's attempts to portray the occupation in Palestine favourably, drawing parallels between the actions of occupation forces in Gaza and the questionable tactics of Palestinian resistance groups. Hassan urged Morgan to speak truthfully and refrain from labelling an entire population fighting for survival as a threat to those occupying their ancestral lands. Hassan Mahdi even called out Western hypocrisy and cornered Piers Morgan for his partiality. This was indeed an open-minded strike. I want you to imagine, and it's a bit of a leap I admit, I want you to imagine that you are the Prime Minister of Israel when that atrocity happens in Israel. What do you do? That's a great question. So short answer is I resign because I'm responsible for that attack. I'm the one who botched security at the border. I'm the one who propped up Hamas with money from Qatar over the years and allowed them to be propped up as a way to divide the Palestinian people. I'm the one who's had millions of my own people on the streets for months protesting against my authoritarian reforms to judiciary. So I have some shame, I have some self-respect, I have some honesty and I say, I quit. Let someone else do this because I've failed for 20 years. OK, Netanyahu did not do that. And interestingly, although the majority of Israelis would like him to go, they also want him to finish the job in destroying Hamas. There's not much ambiguity in terms of how Israelis feel about the mission plan. But there's obviously a lot of concern mounting around the world about the scale of Israel's response. And that's really what I guess my question was alluding to. And I've been honest, I've said this a lot on my uncensored show, that I felt a real moral quandary. You know, I can go back over tweets I've done back in 2014 where I said that Israel's response to provocation by Palestinians at the time was bordering on terrorism. You know, I've somebody who, when I was editor of Daily Mirror, posed the Iraq war before, during and after, very vociferously. And I think that aged pretty well, that campaign. I'm somebody that when the Qatar World Cup happened, you know, I sprang to defence of Qatar's right to host the World Cup and exposed a lot of Western hypocrisy. And yet when it comes to this particular conflict, I feel genuinely conflicted for one of the better phrase. And the point of my conflict is this really, is that the reason I asked you that question about if you were the Prime Minister of Israel, it's very, very difficult to know how any Prime Minister of Israel could have responded in a particularly different manner to the way that Netanyahu did, putting aside all the reasons that you say you should have resigned. And by the way, I broadly agree with them. In terms of the Israel people, the Prime Minister at the time, the response to what happened that day was going to always have to be enormous, wasn't it? So you're right in terms of the emotional response. It was going to be enormous. And I would take us back to 9-11, Piers, you mentioned Iraq. After 9-11, there was an emotional response in the U.S. that something had to be done, right? There's, you know, there's the famous Yes Minister dialogue. Something has to be done. This is something, let's do it. And we invaded Afghanistan, which didn't solve the problem of terrorism, made it worse, punished innocent people who had nothing to do with 9-11. And you'll remember at the time, Piers, both parties in the United States supported going into Afghanistan only one member of Congress, not Bernie Sanders, Barbara Lee of California, voted to oppose that war. Two decades on many people would say she was vindicated, even though she was an isolated voice, and she was going against a tidal wave of opinion from liberals and conservatives said we have to do something. And I get that after a trustee happens, people want to do something. But the best leaders, the most strategic leaders, the most moral leaders are the ones who can take a pause, take a breath, and say are we going to make the situation better or worse? Are we striking out strategically or just for the sake of vengeance and revenge? And you talk about Israeli prime ministers having to do this, look, they didn't have to do it on this level. I think a lot of Israelis, despite supporting Netanyahu, would argue it didn't have to be done like this. There are different ways to retaliate against Hamas. The Iranese, no Israeli government has done it like this before. This is the greatest death poll for Palestinians of any war in Israel's post-1948 history. So the fact that he did it like this was unique. I mean, look, the statistics speak for themselves, Piers. You know them. You've said them on this show. The level of killing, the number of kids killed. You have one former UN official saying this is the highest kill rate in the world since Rwanda, right? Of any conflict since Rwanda. Do not tell me that the only response to a brutal attack on civilians in Israel on October the 7th was to produce a conflict that had a kill rate equivalent to Rwanda's. Sorry, I don't accept that. Here's what I would say playing devil's advocate, and you might think I'm literally playing devil's advocate, but I'm going to play it anyway, which is all that is true. The death toll is horrific. The percentage of children being killed is horrific. But I would say as a caveat to this, if you think about it from the Israeli perspective, you've got 35,000 Hamas terrorists and we'll come to whether you think they're terrorists or not in a moment, but you've got 35,000 Hamas soldiers, warriors, terrorists, whatever description you want to call them depending on whose side you're on. And they are embedded amongst a civilian population where half that population is under 18. How else do you get rid of Hamas if you don't go about it in the blunt brutal manner that Israel is doing? And if you do it the way they're doing it, how do you avoid the kind of casualty rate of people under 18 given that that's half the population? So through things very briefly, number one you do it by not deliberately targeting civilian targets and schools and hospitals and cemeteries and mosques and universities and churches. You don't have snipers shooting at hospitals or Christian women inside a church. That's how you avoid the casualties. Number two, I don't accept the premise of your question that this is the way to defeat Hamas. I think even if I'm an Israeli hawk I criticize Netanyahu and say this is not the way to defeat Hamas. This is actually absurd to think you can defeat Hamas in this way. We have countless episodes from history that show us this is not how you defeat a guerrilla movement, a resistance movement, a terror group, as you say whatever words you want to use. In fact you have Israeli general saying this can't be done in this way. And number three, look the reality is Hamas is a symptom of the problem. As long as you treat Hamas as a problem rather than as a symptom of the problem you're never going to get rid of Hamas. Or if you do by some fantasy means get rid of Hamas you'll just get another version of Hamas because now you've got tens of thousands of orphans. You've got people who've lost their kids, their spouses, their siblings. What? You think they're not going to fight back in the years to come? You think they're not going to take revenge? Well that's how I feel. It's absolute madness to believe. I feel the same way. Then we agree. So yeah I think broadly speaking I do because I think you can't kill the ideology and in fact all you will do is entrench the ideology. I think and that's what I don't think Israel have thought through to a logical end game which is you're not going to get rid of the thinking that inspired Hamas because a lot of people will have suffered such a Pauling grief with their close family in the way you described it.  I think you're being a little too generous to the Israelis here and with a greater respect I think your questions reflect a little bit of a naivety about what Israel's doing here. You're starting from the premise that Israel is trying to defeat Hamas. I don't accept that premise. Piers Morgan's current stance seems to revolve around justifying Benjamin Netanyahu's approach to handling the Gaza crisis. While we can't delve into Morgan's exact thoughts it's evident he grapples with the challenge of how the occupation can respond while safeguarding Gaza civilians. However what seems apparent is his attempt whether conscious or not to obfuscate the fact that there's little distinction between the Palestinian freedom movement and ordinary Palestinians. Any assault on Palestinian defenders effectively equates to a declaration of war against vulnerable civilians. It's a straightforward equation the defenders arise in response to the policies and actions of the occupation. For years Gaza has endured a suffocating siege its borders tightly controlled rendering it virtually isolated from the world. Such dire circumstances naturally compel a reaction in the name of self-preservation. As highlighted in a previous video the very presence of an occupation necessitates the existence of a Palestinian defense unit. Action begets reaction and for peace to prevail addressing the grievances of the occupied becomes imperative. Failure to do so would perpetuate the cycle of violence which ultimately sparked the October 7 counter-offensive. In the second segment Hassan served up some compelling food for thought. Drawing parallels to the United States post 9-11 responses the Zetio founder criticized the knee-jerk reactions often advocated by western policymakers in dealing with the Gaza crisis. He emphasized that an opposition intertwined with the Palestinian people themselves cannot be vanquished without harming the people. Such actions could potentially constitute war crimes under international law. Hassan's arguments intensified as peers pressed with probing inquiries challenging him further. Here's my problem with that why is that not applied to your Israeli guests? I would be fine peers if you had Palestinian guests and you begin by asking them do you condemn Hamas war crimes because what Hamas did on October 7 was a war crime but then you should start with Israeli guests and pro-Israeli guests saying do you condemn Israeli war crimes which have been documented by the UN every human rights group on the planet you don't you had Naftali Bennett the former Israeli prime minister on a couple of weeks ago I watched the interview your opening question was how comfortable are you with the way Israel's prosecuting the war right? A bit of a softball to start with you didn't ask him to condemn Israeli terrorism Israeli war crimes Israeli genocide in Gaza so a lot of people look at that and they say they get your intention but it comes across as a bit of a racist double standard. Well look I don't think it's a racist double standard and I think that nobody has given pro-Palestinian voices a bigger platform more consistently since October the 7th of me and if you go back and look at those interviews you know I think that clips get taken out of context and people assume they know what I've said and often it's completely misleading I've tried to be fair-minded about it people do ask me do you think Israel are terrorists and I've said no I don't think they are but I have repeated it well I have repeated it because I think they have interest why because they were responding to an act of terrorism so heinous it demanded a massive military response the question for me that's caused me a moral quandary is what is an acceptably proportionate level of response and I don't know the answer but I don't think you can call people responding to an act of terror on that scale terrorists for responding what you can do is hold them to a count the problem the problem is if you go to Gaza if you go to Gaza appears and you talk to Palestinians they will say that Hamas were responding if we play the who started it game we go back many decades well what we need to have is a consistent moral principle what we need to have is well hang on when did Israel kill 1200 of the Palestinian civilians when did they kill 800 Palestinian civilians in one few hour period right in the way that Hamas killed those the definition of terrorism how many hours you do it in I can mention many Israeli massacres going back to Sabra and Shatila which they oversaw going back to Kibbeh and Ariel Sharon going back to Deir Yassin where rape and violence happen the point is not to compare atrocities the point peers is have a consistent moral principle which is to say if you kill civilians for a political cause you are a terrorist on that basis Hamas have committed acts of terror and Israel have committed acts of terror I think that's okay to say that Piers Morgan's discomfort with being labeled as racist is understandable but his treatment of pro-Israel commentators on his show compared to pro-Palestinian guests is noticeably disparate this bias reflects a broader issue within the collective west which has largely ignored the ongoing plight of Palestinians while the occupation continues its brutal subjugation of the people the resistance in Gaza is a direct response to this oppression yet it's often misconstrued as terrorism this makes it challenging to appreciate the resistance's struggle as a legitimate defense against occupation in the ensuing debate an anti-zionist film producer criticized the complicity of the occupying government in perpetuating the crisis in Palestine a surprising perspective coming from a Jew the prevailing consensus has been that the occupation is necessary for self-protection but in reality its absence might have led to greater peace and security for the entire region including the Jewish Commonwealth you're perfectly entitled to say it of course you are at the Oscars on Sunday Jonathan Glazer won an award for best international film for the zone of interest a movie about the Holocaust and he's a director he said this when he was on stage our film shows where dehumanization leads at its worst it shaped all of our past and present right now we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people whether the victims of October the whether the victims of October the 7th in Israel or the ongoing attack on Gaza all the victims of this dehumanization how do we resist now that prompted a lot of reaction as you'd imagine New York Post columnist John Potter said on X Jonathan Glazer you can go bleep yourself and stuff your Oscar up your bleep to which you replied cry more Ben Shapiro wrote an X in Jonathan Glazer zone of interest you don't see one Jew these are the best Jews according to Glazer the faceless victims screaming in the distance ironically he's the villain picking up awards from the bodies of these anonymous dead Jews while ignoring the living ones getting sort of slaughtered in the Gaza envelope by genocide or murderers um listen you've seen the way that that debate played out interestingly to me before we get to what Glazer said been really struck by the fact that throughout the entire Hollywood award season be it movies television music I don't think it's been a single statement by a big star about the Israel a mass war which is pretty well unprecedented for the biggest bunch of virtue siglers in the world a what do you read into that and and secondly on Glazer speech was at the right time and place to say it and what do you think of the reaction from prominent Jews to what he said well let's work backwards uh yes it was the right time to say it why not and I've been depressed to see that the award ceremony season has not seen anyone mention an ongoing genocide in the Middle East in which 12 and a half thousand children minimum have been killed in the space of a few months so I'm happy he did it I find the controversy to be uh manufactured I find it deeply dishonest you're people like Megan McCain uh and others tweeting that he said he refutes his Jewishness just flat false I'm glad you posted and played the whole clip here because a lot of people have been very sneaky in posting a portion of his statement to make it sound like he was refuting his own Jewishness what he said as you we all saw is he refutes his Jewishness being hijacked by the occupation which is how a lot of Jewish people a lot of young Jewish people especially in the United States feel and that's why so many of us who are critics of Israel say let us disentangle the political ideology of Zionism being pushed in the occupied territories from Judaism one of the world's great religions which is not responsible for the crimes of Benjamin Netanyahu or Bizarro Smotrich so I think he's been completely smeared and I hope he sues some of these people uh number two in terms of Hollywood for four years of Trump Hollywood celebrities spoke out against fascism authoritarianism human rights abuses at the border and now suddenly they've all lost their voices which tells you a great deal about how this issue is so censored in the US to use a phrase that you like it's not uncensored we know that people in Hollywood in the media in politics elsewhere do feel a pressure not to speak out on this do get worried about losing career opportunities my good friend Mark Ruffalo was up for an Oscar I was hoping you'd win because he's one of those bold folks who does speak about Gaza and Palestinians I know he would have devoted his speech to it sadly he lost to his fellow Marvel character Robert Downey Jr but look it's a real problem that in Hollywood there is so much censorship at a time when people talk about free speech and artists for free speech and I'm glad Annie Lennox spoke out I'm glad Jonathan Glazer spoke out I just wish more people were were you fired by MSNBC cancelled by them because of what you said about the Israel a mass war as many people think you were so just to clarify I was not fired I chose to quit but after they cancelled my shows they did cancel my shows yes and I was disappointed who wouldn't be to lose my two shows you'd have to ask them why they cancel the shows they never said it was about Israel Palestine people can speculate I then decided that look it's an election year I've got a lot I want to say and I asked to leave and they very graciously allowed me to exit my contract you know about cable news contracts peers but could it be many the reason I'm asking is it could you have been a victim of the very thing you're talking about which is a censorship driven by big media companies in America most of whose tentacles end up in Hollywood I appreciate your questions peers but you're gonna have to ask MSNBC get them on and grill them I might do that um you also said about Joe Biden that he was the most impressive president of my lifetime as a guardian a calendar year ago do you stand by that uh so quick quick bit of caveat there I was asked by the interviewer yes many you know how do you consider no no I will clarify at the time I was asked is either great I said he's the best I'm surprised he's the most impressive president of my lifetime and then the next slide which is in the piece was but then again who's he up against Ronald Reagan George Bush senior Bill Clinton George Bush junior Barack Obama at Donald Trump not great competition the bar is very low but he exceeded that bar I mean Barack Obama's probably the only person Hassan Mahdi passionately dismantled western lies and justifications yet he also acknowledged some areas of agreement with them he recognizes that the issue of the occupation transcends party politics in the US blurring the lines between different administrations however Hassan isn't exempt from criticism as he like many may overlook the collective responsibility of the wider society in addressing the crisis in Gaza despite widespread recognition of the atrocities occurring there thank you for engaging with this perspective and we encourage further discussion and awareness about the situation in Palestine until next time peace


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I am just beginning to realize that probably every day, somewhere my voice is in a sleek, red Italian sports car. My voice, it's poolside in the most beautiful backyards in town. My voice is heard in banks and soda shops and cafes. My voice is having more fun than I am. Time for today's moment of duh on the Darren Marlar radio show, and imagine offering teenagers assault rifles as prizes. In Oklahoma Church, they planned to give away a semi-automatic assault rifle at a weekend retreat for teens, but they canceled it after one of the event organizers was unable to attend. The shooting competition has been canceled and the church says they are going to give the $800 gun away next year. The church said the gun giveaway was to encourage teens to show up. Yes, giving guns to encourage teens to show up. Do you really want to give semi-automatic rifles to teens?  Dang. What do you want to be when you grow up? Darren Marlar. I think he's cool. Cool. Finally, a connection to the real world. 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There are some unscrupulous people right now who are trying to steal your identity by pretending to be from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Office of Inspector General. Here's the ruse. These criminals scammed caller ID systems to make it appear that they are calling from an official federal government telephone number. Using what's been described as pronounced accents, well, they claim to be from U.S. immigration, and they tell victims that they have been affected by identity theft. And in a bogus attempt to quote-unquote help, while these scammers, they'll ask their victims to either provide or confirm personal information that they then use to really steal their identity. The phone number, by the way, that appears on a victim's caller ID is 1-800-323-8603. You want to write that down?<PHONE_NUMBER>. That is a legitimate hotline number for the Inspector General of Homeland Security. However, this hotline is never used for outgoing calls. Only incoming calls about reports of fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement with the agency. So if you get a call from<PHONE_NUMBER>, that is a scammer. Homeland Security, they were alerted to this scam by some victims who called the hotline, asking why they had been contacted and asked such personal questions. If you want to read a little bit more about this, I do have a link to the story at facebook.com slash Darren Marlar. You're pretty far out there, even for the guys who do a lot of this stuff. And Jury Bathers as the beaver. And Sean Mathers as the skunk.  I'll give you the story on that one coming up. According to a poll from Gallup, Illinoisans have the lowest opinion of their state of any American. 25% of people that live in Illinois say that Illinois is the worst possible state to live. Unless you're in Chicago, at which point you're not expected to survive at all. Okay, so you have somebody that you really want to do something for you. Well, how do you approach them? Well, if you want them to do something, talk into that person's right ear. Not their left ear, but their right ear. Why? I will tell you why here in just a few minutes. Jury Mathers as the beaver. Sean Mathers as the skunk. Cops have found the answer to crime right under their noses. The Los Angeles Police Department has a special unit that drives drug dealers and other low-lifes out of abandoned buildings by smearing their rooms with blobs of horrid smelling goop. While the name of the new urban heroes, the Skunk Squad, and their weapon is called Skunk Shot, and it sends criminals running for fresh air while gagging and holding their noses, and the odor keeps them away for days. Skunk Shot, it's been able to do what fences, gates, barbed wire, and multiple arrests have been unable to do, says Lieutenant Sean Mathers, the younger brother of, leave it to beaver star, Jury Mathers. Mathers engage, they surf the web and discovered Skunk Shot, a synthetic repellent, synthetic gel that is, invented in New Zealand, and each $12 tube, it holds enough to smear about five locations. Hi, I'm Darren Marlar, and if you want to get somebody to do something, talk into that person's right ear. People are better able to process information when requests are made in the right ear. According to Italian researchers, the left side of the brain, which gets its information from the right ear, well, that side of the brain is better at processing speech and language. The other side of the brain, that's more involved in things such as interpreting emotion. You can also see this tendency when people use the phone. Most will naturally hold it to their right ear. Each year, millions of deprived children in our country have to return to school without the latest technological gadgetry tethered to their pants. Just as generations passed, needed food, shelter, and clothing to sustain themselves, there's a newer crop of children who simply can't live without their iPods, portable video games, and most of all, cell phones. Like, hi, so I was talking to Ashley and she thinks that Chad is like so stuck up. Here at the Children Without Cellphones Foundation, we give a voice to those who don't have one by saying, please don't let them return to school without looking cool. The Darren Marlar Radio Show. That is the word in the street. Sign up to get Darren's newsletter on his website at DarrenMarlar.com. Caviar, hot sidewalks, and people you love. It's all coming up in our Weird Holidays up next. I'm Darren Marlar. The new trend for funerals is to pose the deceased in lifelike ways at the viewing, like sitting up watching sports highlights. You know what, when I die, I plan to be posed in front of a TV watching a Cubs game, because I'm usually unconscious during those anyway. Welcome to the Darren Marlar Radio Show, and it's time for today's weird, wacky, strange, zany, odd, bizarre, quirky, unusual holidays. Today is Tuesday, July 18th, you have 160 shopping days until Christmas, and today is Make a List of the People You Love Day. Today is Sidewalk Frying Day. It's a good time to fry something on the sidewalk. I don't know anybody who's actually done that, but every year, during the summer, you hear about people trying it. Today is National Caviar Day. When I first heard what caviar was, I got so grossed out when I found out it was just fish eggs. It was gross. I almost couldn't finish my omelet. Today is Perfect Family Day, not that anybody could celebrate it. In Spain today, it's National Uprising Day. Although you've got to wonder if it's such a good idea to have the government notice like this, to give the government notice like, hey everybody, remember now we're uprising July 18th, don't forget! And today is Presidential Succession Act Day. On this day, July 18th, in 1947, the Presidential Succession Act was signed, stating that in case of temporary incapacitation or death of the President, the Vice President is next in succession, followed by the Speaker of the House and President Pro Tem of the Senate, followed then by the most available Clinton, the most available Bush, and then most recent winner of America's Got Talent. Pope Francis doesn't want to hear no complaining from you. I'll explain what I mean by that right around the corner. I'm Darren Marlar and scientists have developed an off-switch for the brain to effectively shut down neural activity using light pulses. Uh, yeah, didn't they already have that? I mean, they called the invention television. Cable TV has a channel that's right for you and your needs, with several new channels such as the Time Channel. Okay, now we have 724 and we're about 11 seconds away from 725. The Stapling Channel. When I hold your paper straight, squeeze. Very good. Now, get another one. The Sanding Channel. Always move with the grade. See, they're going against the grade there. Come on back over here. And the Pope Channel. Call your cable company now and say, I want cable TV. Brought to you by Turner's Television and your local cable company. I want to hear it. The Darren Marlar Radio Show. Thanks for listening to the Darren Marlar Radio Show. Pope Francis, he recently hung a sign near his private rooms that reads, uh, Viettato Lamentare, uh, Lamentarcy. I can't speak Latin. Let me try it again. The Viettato Lamentarcy. Whatever. Anyway, it's Italian for no complaining. So it's not even Latin, it's Italian. That's how bad I am at Latin. I don't even realize that it's not Latin. So anyway, the sign essentially means no complaining. The sign was given to the Pope by a psychologist who writes motivational guides. And Pope Francis, he's known for trying to buck up believers by telling them to cast off their melancholy and stop grumbling. While the no complaining sign's small print, it warns complainers that they could develop, quote, a victim complex, resulting in a lowering of their capacity to solve problems, unquote. Identify yourself. You're listening too. It is a deal. It's about time. Everyone ready? Back, back, back. The Master of Ceremony. The Darren Marlar Radio Show. Listen. Cring up the radio. That does it for me. Thank you again for listening to the Darren Marlar Radio Show made possible by a flaw in the system. Good night, ladies. Good night, sir. Hit it, sweetheart. That's all, folks.