And away they go from the start here and Hancock makes it look so easy doesn't he? He's got the lead early on and he won't be beaten from here, you just know that. Jepsen Jensen is second, Iverson is third and Kasperzak has gone to the back. Iverson will really wind it on in the dirt on the bottom bend, but Hancock has the lead. Second place is Jepsen Jensen and third is Niels Christian Iverson who won't give up. He's driving around the outside, super pass from Iverson and he's now hunting down Greg Hancock. I hope you don't have to eat your words, you won't be beaten from here because Niels Christian Iverson is coming on strong here. Really strong ride from the Danish boy to get in the second place. Kasperzak out of the back, the world champion, supreme out of gate three.  Roaring through that turns three and four, the pit corner, Hancock wide. Iverson coming out of here, Iverson. Time to go less than a lap, can Hancock hang on? Stational Speedway and Niels Christian Iverson just makes me look absolutely foolish yet again. Yeah, he's back too soon, son. He's back too soon. Here we go with the grand final here in Gorzhov. Who's going to hit that first turn? Hancock's made a beauty. Woffendom is going to try and go high into the dirt now and get some drive around the outside. But Zagar is challenging there now and Woffendom has no room there. No room there at all for Woffendom. Hancock has gone wide and has lost control of the Speedway back and Woffendom comes through into third. Hancock has a leap but Zagar's got speed. Mati Zagar is... He's getting into work on the outside as well when he squeezes way through in the second place, switches to the inside. Hancock covers that. What a ride from Zagar out in front. Fabulous move from him. Mati Zagar on the verge of a famous win here, only his third win of his career. Nificent! Mati Zagar! Mati Zagar of Slovenia. Penison has made a beauty there and Everson is with him too. Now Woffendom is trying the inside line and they're all bunching up now. Coming out of turn number two and it's a Danish one-two. Nicky Penison with the lead. Niels Christian Everson is second but Woffendom is going high and wide and he's trying absolutely everything now. Woffendom having it all on with Troy Batchelor at the back but it's Penison from Everson. Woffendom trying absolutely everything here. Well Nicky Penison took full advantage of the inside gate there. This time Ty Woffendom spun up and missed the start. Even so this second place is under a huge threat but Woffendom... Woffendom on the inside. How is he doing it and he's getting closer to Penison here. You don't need it here. Penison has the advantage. Woffendom is second but he's still going wide. He is really riding the wheels off the speedway back here. Here he comes. Down into turns three and four. He's after Penison. He's going to try the inside switch. Oh my God! And the final. What a sensational ride from Ty Woffendom. Can you believe what you've just seen? Down to the line. Woffendom from Penison. Look how he looks. He's studying here. Nicky tries to climb the inside line. What a move Kelvin. Absolutely fantastic. There's only a few riders in the world that could perform that well. That really was something very special. For at least two laps he was out. Evenson was in second place, had it under control. He was looking like a Danish. One, two. But that was something very special. You'd have to go an awful long way to see a better ride than that. It's all unbelievable stuff with Doyle leading and Kelvin second. Yeah, Peter Kelvin coming through after a really active night for him. Suddenly lost all his speed coming up turn four. Got himself in trouble and then the Danes pounced. Jepsen Jensen. What a ride from him. Penison that's desperate for him. Woffendom's just made the final. Penison doesn't make it. And Woffendom's been left standing at the start. It's Hancock on two. Magnificent, complete Hancock. As they're leading. Here comes Woffendom. Round the outside. And Everson is trying the inside line as well. Woffendom goes wide. He's going to try the inside switch. And Everson's come through. And now Woffendom the inside. So back into that second place. Water's out from the World Championship.


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This is stock number AT2B. We are here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. You're new and used heavy-duty truck headquarters remember we are the guys with the trucks on 41 Today we are checking out this super clean 2014 ram 2500 crew cab short box From this HD video you will be able to tell that for the miles on this truck. It is in excellent shape has a cattleman Heavy-duty grill guard that has been powder coated red To match the truck Speaking of the truck flame red is the color we shoot all of our videos in 1080p So if you have HD capabilities on your computer Tablet or smartphone device turn them on right now because it is like you're right here looking at the truck with me This one comes with the 20 inch painted Alloy rims with the chrome pockets. It has brand new general grabber LT 3 25 60 R 20 tires We put these tires on in our safety inspection, and they are brand new all the way around. I Didn't see any dents and dings on that front fender. 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We're live, I'm Jay Fidel. It's the 11 o'clock block here on a given Tuesday here on Think Tech and we have Catherine Norr. And we're gonna do what we do every month. We're gonna talk about our survey. Hi, Catherine. Hello, Audrey. So every month we do a survey. We open it on the first of the month and we go through the 15th, then we close it. And we ask about a dozen questions. We send it out to our mailing list and we put it everywhere we can because we wanna find out what people are thinking and doing, especially in the time of COVID. We will talk today, Catherine, and I about exactly what the answers were on this survey. We call it reopening realities and it's about reopening. Although right now we're kind of in the pause. And we'll also post the link for the survey so you can look at it probably tomorrow in the daily email advisory. So you can get it both ways and see what people are thinking. So let's go to our survey. I so enjoy doing this because it gives you a handle on what's going on outside. And when you're stuck at home, sometimes you don't know what's going on outside and this helps. Okay, the first question, let me see. What was the first question? Are you continuing to stay home in the reopening? Yes, okay. And it looks like the great plurality anyway is I'm still staying at home. I guess the next one, this is interesting. The next biggest, that was 34%. The next one is I'm still staying at home, but I'm not as much, but not as much as before. So there's the reopening for you. How about the rest of it, Catherine? Well, I'm out and about on Sundays, which is about 18% and I'm out and about every day, which is about almost 16%, which is like me. Okay, like you. Okay.  You know, I'm a lot of practicing lawyers I know are out and about. We had some odd responses. I shouldn't say odd, but you know, comment type of responses. And here's a couple of them. Only out to go and to and from work, that's all from that responded. Another one was back at work, but keeping pretty much to home. Otherwise, then another one is I'm staying at home except for essential trips to the doctor, to the post office, long mad live, and to a commission meetings. We don't know who this person is, but apparently this person is on a commission. And all these answers, mind you, were from July 1st to July 15th. So that's where we were. You know, things have changed a little bit in the last week or two. So that's the picture at that time. So the next one, are you working and select one? So what are the answers, Catherine? Okay, the vast majority is working at home. And then they're, well, not vast majority, 50, close to 58% are working at home. And then 26% are working in their regular place of business, 0% at another location and also 0% are working at multiple places. And there's only 13% not working, but we don't know whether that might be retired people. Looks like it is. Probably is, yeah. That explains that, yeah. Right, right. But we don't have those unemployed people spending their time on this. They're probably playing video games.  That's actually, that's an interesting, because it doesn't allow for that. You would have to fill in the comment to get that. Okay, I guess what, you know, the lesson there is a lot of people are working, of the people who are working, the plurality at least, what did you say, 58% are working at home. Correct. Working at home, which is good. Of course, we don't know the quality of work, I suppose we might ask next time around, exactly what are you doing at home? How many hours a day are you spending? And is there any accountability on that? Are you getting paid by the hour, eh? Would be interesting to get detailed. Sure. And the next one, how is your physical health compared to what it was like before the pandemic? That is interesting because, you know, we don't get younger. And that includes when we stay at home all day, we still at home, we don't get younger. So what were the answers on that one, Catherine? Well, 71%, it's about the same. And then we have this 18.42% that say it's actually better. And only about 2%, say it's worse and others about close to 8% say, it's not better or worse, just different. So, you know, I think it's interesting that this is Hawaii. If we were in another state like Texas or Arizona or Florida, I don't know, we might have a different response. Yeah, and furthermore, I mean, I'm not sure we'll do this because the next survey which we've already written does not include this, but over time, if you keep on asking this question, you know, just the normal nature of things, people's health is not gonna be as good as it was at a time in the past because as I mentioned, you know, most people get older and that's a good thing. And as they get older, maybe their physical health is not as good as it was. So it'd be interesting to see what happens if we all have to stay indoors, you know, for months and months and more months to see how the answer to this question changes. Although if we're out walking, then maybe, you know, to get outside, maybe we'll, you know, maybe health will even improve because I think people that may not have been walking have increased their walking based on other surveys or at least my reading of other surveys. Yeah, and that's a question. Are you exercising? Are you eating right? Are you doing the things you're supposed to be doing? Because if you do, then it's an ideal situation, isn't it? You know, you don't have as much stress except when you watch television and see all the things that are happening in the country. Right. That's how you reduce your stress is not watch it. Right. Okay, next one is how is your mental health as opposed to physical health compared to, how is your mental health compared to what it was like before the pandemic? So what answers do we get on that question, Catherine? You know, I think we have to look at this and compare it to physical. We see about the same, or it is the same. That's only 39% compared to, you know, compared contrasts that physical. Mental health is worse than their physical. It's better is 18%. It's worse is now 18%. And it's not better or worse is 23.68%. So I think that people are experiencing worse mental health consequences than they are physical health consequences. Yeah, and it's probably not the television. It's probably just claustrophobia for a lot of people just being shut in, not having the regular outside recreational things to do, not going to restaurants and bars and meeting their friends and going to events and all those things. Probably, you know, those things help you be in a good state of mind. You know, and I think an important thing that we have to consider here is that people thrive on hugs and person to person contact.  Yeah, I would agree with that. And Hawaii is a very hugged place, at least in my life anyway, in the ordinary course. I'm hugging people all day, it's like saying hi. And it's really too bad not to have that and it probably does affect you. I noticed by the way that this question, how is your mental health compared to before? And how is your physical health compared to before? We didn't have any comments. We just had the basic single choice. Find that interesting in itself. Nobody wanted to talk about exactly how their health was. Right, right, right. People have a sense of privacy about that, they don't want to tell you, which I wish they would. I would say in my case, and you can see if you're willing to discuss it, my mental health is actually, not the same, it's the same. I'm in the green, where are you? I same on physical and mental, I'm working out, I'm engaged with social contacts, doing a lot of things with people, but not in their presence. But it's different, I would say for me, it's a little different. It's different, good point. Yeah. There's a problem at home is that you eat too much and you really have to learn not to eat because it's so easy to work, it's compulsive eating and a refrigerator just a few steps away and that's not healthy. And the trick is to shut our mouths, right? Yeah, well, find a substitute for it somehow. Right. If you've lost your job, when do you expect to be working again? So this is about jobs. So what were the answers on that one, Catherine? Most people haven't lost their job and the few that did had no idea that would be 5.56%. So this doesn't really apply to us because those responding to this survey are not unemployed or mostly aren't. Let me take a sampling of the other comments that were left here on this question. Interesting, spouse's job eliminated. No job prospects to date. That's a rough situation. Here's one that says, got a new job. Good. Here's one that says lost job, but back to work now. So lost a job, got a new job and we got retired, also retired. Sure. That's an appropriate comment. Yeah, and I know plenty of people who have just recently retired or are retiring very soon but that tells you a little bit about how old I am. Not me. Okay, question six. If you're living on savings, how much longer can you last? Big question at a time when state and federal benefits are running out and it's not clear what the state can do or the Fed will do. Even in the morning paper, it's not clear that the Republicans and the Democrats will agree to a bill and it's become politicized as a matter of fact. So when you're asking somebody if they're living on savings, it's a really heavy question. What were the answers here? Well, about 5.7% will be okay for 30 days. And then there are 17% that would be okay until the end of the year. And then a vast, you know, a large number, 45% said that they can support themselves indefinitely. And then there are 17% that say, I don't know how long I can last. I'm kind of confused about this because I don't, you know, seem like a vast majority were working and only a small portion weren't. So I'm kind of wondering, you know, it doesn't seem like those responding that there were that many that were living on savings. Yeah. Well, and then, you know, maybe it requires more detail. Like what is exactly, what is savings? Now maybe savings includes social security. Maybe savings, you know, includes things that will dry up. You know, if social security gets cut and this president has said he would like to do that, that'd be perfect right now, wouldn't it? Then we, you know, then we get a different answer to this question because that I think a lot of people would consider that as part of savings in a broad sense. Sure. The retired people might have answered that. Yeah. Or if they have a stock account, if they're living on the, you know, interest or dividends from a stock account, I guess they're assuming in this question that that'll continue and that's enough for me to get along on, blah, blah, blah. But if the stock market falls apart, which is another show, another discussion, their answer will change. They won't have any cash flow from those things or it will be severely reduced. Yeah. Let's see, okay. Let me just see. Okay, we had some comment type answers. Let me run through some of them. Here's one that shows you how he handled the question. I'm still working. One says, I'm supported by family. That's good. That's maybe better than savings. The family has good savings. Right. Here's one says collecting social security, not dipping into savings. Good. And this guy says, what do you mean savings? I have no savings. I guess that means he's in real trouble. Well, and I think that that's pretty common amongst a lot of people because it's pretty expensive to live in Hawaii and to actually be able to survive and actually put something away is not easy for a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, it's true. And that is going to take a toll. You know, it was a bad prospect when we looked at this, you and me, first time the issue came up in these surveys. But it's more deadly now because we're in a pause and it may be that we have to pause for a long time. Despite the need to get the economy going again, people are really afraid because they're worried about going to group things and restaurants and events and all that. Sure. So the economy doesn't have a lot of jobs right now. Good for these people to say they got work but a lot of people don't have work and they're very thin and they're going to get thinner. Yeah. Okay, question seven. Do you believe the federal government has done a good job in balancing healthcare with the reopening? Oh, that's the question of the day, isn't it? How did the answers come out? Well, not very many people felt that they were doing a good job, only about 8%. And 76% felt that they were not doing a good job. And then there were those that don't know yet and that was about close to 16%. Yeah, that's an interesting category. And that's actually bigger than I thought it would be. So it's almost 16%, I don't... What are they saying? They're saying that maybe, maybe the federal government will do a good job in balancing healthcare with the... Well, it's fluid. We have new numbers every day in different parts of the country and the same way that you're gonna deal with one state, like, are you going to address like Wisconsin, like Montana, the same as you would Texas? I mean, I don't think so. I think each state has their own unique situation. Some are similar to each other, but you also have states that don't have the numbers and are not impacted as well as much. Yeah, and if you went to... This has been politicized. Trump's success or lack of success on dealing with COVID is a political issue. He has politicized it.  Whether that's true in the eyes of anybody in the blue state or not. If you go to a blue state, you're more likely to have them say what they said here in the survey. No, the federal government has not done a good job dealing with healthcare. I'm not sure how many people in our state are politicized on the issue. I think they're probably more rational about it. And I think this is probably an accurate statement. That's just my reaction to it. But I'd be interested in seeing, about the I don't know yet people. I mean, next month, the month after that, if we ask the same question, it'd be interesting to compare it. Because he's trying now as today, come back and do his Rose Garden task force meetings. If he's successful at that, more people say, oh yeah, done a good job or trying to do a good job. If he's not successful and he rambles and makes statements that are untrue and unhelpful. If he takes weird steps like he's been taking, then more people are gonna say, next time we ask this question, that federal government hasn't done a good job. I think one thing is clear, Catherine, when they say federal government, you're saying Trump, because he is the federal government on this issue. He's making all the decisions. Sure. Okay, there's no other on that question. We're into question eight. Do you believe the state has done a good job? This is more complex. Do you believe the state has done a good job in balancing healthcare with the reopening? Aha, what are our answers there, Catherine? Well, we have the same number of people said yes and the same number of people said no. 36.84% said yes and the same with no. And then we've got a little larger percentage that say that they don't know yet, which is about 23%. So it's quite divided. And that's kind of not on political lines, you know? Because we have the vast majority in Hawaii are Democrats. So for it to be divided that way, maybe it's maybe pro-EGAY supporters and those that are not supportive of them. I don't know. Yeah, well, you hear statements on both sides of it, don't you? I mean, in the street, we talk to people. I shouldn't say in the street, there is no street. Yeah, I haven't been walking around the street and asking people lately, but maybe. Very interesting, we did have some, here's a sample, and this is for the comments. The decision-making criteria have been opaque. I love a thoughtful answer. The communication confused and folks are doing a bad job of communicating to an anxious community. Where have all the leaders gone? That's a statement about leadership, isn't it? Yes. And when you hear negative comments, including, you know, these comments here where the answer for half the people is, no, I don't believe the state has done a good job, they're really pointing to leadership. Well, you know, one thing that I can point out though is if you're pro-opening economy, you're probably going to appreciate those actions that are taken to open the economy. If you're anti-opening the economy, you will probably find those actions to be inappropriate. So I think that that may account for some division here. Yeah, I agree. I think there's a large number of people in Hawaii who want to see the economy open because they're either business owners or they used to have a job that they can't go back to or they're involved in a hotel business, you know, they would want to see the reopening at all costs. And then the other side, since I don't care about that, I just want people to get healthy.  So that's the conundrum around the country. And it looks like we have it here too, as you say. Okay, question nine. How should Hawaii balance public health and the reopening? Okay, so this is an affirmative question. How should we balance these things? What are the answers? Well, we have 34% saying that public health is more important than the reopening.   Yeah, interesting that, you know, more than half say they're equally important. And that's consistent with the answers to the last question. Sure. But I guess most people, the majority of people believe they're equally important. I'm not sure I agree with that because I don't think you can have a reopening without people being healthy and confident of being involved in the business community. Oh, good, Jay, we are on opposites. I say that they're equally important. I think that's how I answered. Well, yeah, okay, we're good. I go back to the very beginning when I saw what was going on in Washington. Right, right. Not to dwell on this, but I said, well, how can you do reopening when you haven't solved the basic problem? And at that point when he was talking, Trump was talking about reopening, he's the guy that started talking about this. He was the one that sent the signal, we gotta reopen now. But at that point, we really hadn't done anything about the virus.  If you reopen, you're gonna enhance the possibilities for virus.  We didn't do that. Had we done that, you and I can agree or not. Had we done that, we would all be in better shape. And I think Dr. Fauci would totally agree with me. But that's just Dr. Fauci and me. You gotta get Dr. Fauci on your show. Yes, I think we will. We had a response worth mentioning. This is a comment response. It says, Hawaii residents no longer have a stable financial future absent governmental financial assistance. Okay, that's not directly responsive, but that's the balance. That has to be factored in. Okay, question 10. How optimistic are you about the reopening? Select one, what are the answers? Okay, I'm quite optimistic as a tiny 2%. And I'm somewhat optimistic as 26%. I'm not optimistic at all as 21%. And I'm a little pessimistic as 18%. I'm very pessimistic as 15%. And it's too early to say is 15%. Well, okay. I guess somewhat optimistic is the winner on that one. Certainly I'm very pessimistic. I'm not optimistic at all is the second one. I'm a little pessimistic, the third one. I'm very pessimistic. There's very few people who say I'm optimistic. I'm quite optimistic. But then you have to look at the population that are typically optimistic versus typically pessimistic and whether this would go along those lines. I mean, I wonder if it's personality type or is it solely the issue? Well, I think it's personality type. It's also, it's Hawaii. People in Hawaii are generally optimistic as they should be. Sure. Because things do usually work out.  But I find it very interesting to say I'm somewhat optimistic because, and by the way, I'm not somewhat optimistic. I'm less optimistic than I myself. I don't know what the evidence is to suggest optimism here. What do you think? Oh my gosh. I don't remember how I answered. I would probably say, because I'm an optimistic person, I would say I'm somewhat optimistic. And the reason I would say that is because every single time that there's some big catastrophic event that the media focuses on, like a, for example, a hurricane, I love to go out and prep and everything. And the drama that's created is never, it almost never comes to fruition. So, you know, I'm sort of optimistic that maybe there's, it's a little less dire than is reported. Understood. I studied history, my minor in college. And that did not make me an optimist. And right now I'm watching a series on, I guess it's on Amazon video. And it's called something about the Black Death in Europe in the 14th century by a woman named Doris C. Doris C. Armstrong, who teaches at Purdue. She's very good. And she talks about the Black Death and the Black Death is, it's a similar kind of, you know, social experience as we have now. And they didn't know what to do. And they became very disheartened. They as a community all over Europe. Right. At the end of the day, Europe was actually cut in half by the Black Plague. Well, if you name it the Black Death or Black Plague, it's definitely going to be a, kind of a pessimistic environment. Uh-huh. They never found a vaccine. I'll tell you that. This was the 14th century. Let's just hope we don't get that. Well, you don't know. I mean, there's a certain school of people that say, ah, we're going to develop a vaccine. It's on the horizon. You know, and Trump says, not just a sniffle. Send the kid home. No problem. You know, it'll be all right. Which I have a lot of trouble with that on many levels. But- Sure. I agree. You know, it could be that we don't have a vaccine. It could be that it just goes around the world. It could be that, you know, we get a vaccine, but it's not an effective vaccine. It could be that we- Sure. We don't really develop a therapeutic that will meaningfully save lives. So it's all open. Yeah. We should know some of this by the end of the year. We should know, you know, what it looks like going forward by the end of the year. That's what I think. Yeah, exactly. Okay, we got one more question, Catherine. When, this is a dynamite question. When do we want tourists to come back? Because that's intermingled with all of this. What were the answers? Well, what I have and first is, I am looking at what we have on the screen and what I have, and it's different. Okay, well, what I have is as soon as possible is five- Oh, did I miss one? Five percent. And in steps over time, 36% not until 2021, 18%, I want fewer tourists, 18%. I don't want tourists to come back 10%. I don't know yet about 8%. That's all over the board. And very few want them to come back as soon as possible. And I think those that, you know, kind of get that there has to be a balance with the economy and health. I think they are saying in steps over time. Yeah, and I think you're right. It's all over the board for a lot of reasons. I think some of the reasons that people are hesitant about saying, I want everybody, I want the tourists back right away because they would like to see the, you know, Hawaii reorganized, reimagined a little bit. I mean, it's a question of, did you like the tourists to begin with? Did you like having a state with a mono economy so fragile, so unsustainable in a time of crisis? And I think that enters into it. The other thing is, and I'm just related, is what about diversifying the economy, not only reimagining the level of tourism, but diversifying into other levels. And it's like the conversation at that point that has existed for as long as I've been aware, which some people say, yeah, we really got to do that, minority. Other people, majority say, we haven't been able to do it so far. We can't do it now. Stop jaw boning on diversification. We're never going to get it, which is, that's very discouraging and pessimistic, but that's a lot of people feel that way. I want to see if there are any responses here of interest. There's one of interest. This is not necessarily, maybe it is relevant. Six foot social distancing forces the tourist industry to rethink its whole industry. It will never be the same. That assumes that we won't have an effective vaccine and that we'll have to continue on these, these existing secondary defenses, like masks and social distancing. And maybe he's got a point there, or she, to look at this question, you have to figure that in. We cannot have tourism the way it was for medical reasons right now. We're not right now and we'll have to see. But ever since I've lived in Hawaii since 88, the discussion has been on diversification and diversification is a sound way to proceed in almost anything, any economic environment. So to not diversify your economy isn't sound economic sense. So I think you have to. And I think we should. Yeah, and this is a big message to that effect. And one thing to watch you and me and I don't know, people in Bishop Street in general, I should be watching to see what the government does about this, because there's clearly an impetus here. A driver, this whole crisis is a driver that we should rethink our economy. And the legislature didn't do anything so far about that. And neither did the governor, but as time goes by, we shouldn't forget the issue has been raised and we should see what they do. If they do nothing, that's really a squandered opportunity. They should do something. They should do something ambitious, as a matter of fact. Right, right. So any closing remarks you wanna make, Catherine, we've come to the end of our survey again. What do they say? They used to say this on the automobile show. You've squandered another perfectly good half hour. Well, I think the people in Hawaii are smart people. And I think generally we're doing well as a state, except we do have a lot of challenges ahead. And I think we're making those decisions when we vote in November. Yes, it's time for every citizen to take a position on things, to be aware, to understand our surveys, maybe. And... Sure, there we go. All the news and issues and do some thoughtful voting in November. In fact, in August too, we have August 8th, it's primary day. So, well, thank you, Catherine. It's been great. It's always great. And I'll see you next month for more. Thank you today. That was fun. That was fun. Aloha.


Lakeland PBS presents Common Ground brought to you by the Minnesota Arts and Cultural Heritage Fund and the citizens of Minnesota. Production funding of Common Ground is made possible in part by First National Bank Bemidji, continuing their second century of service to the community, a partnership for generations. Member FDIC. Welcome to Common Ground. I'm producer-director Scott Knudson. In this episode, Kenneth Wold and others celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Bemidji Area Church Musicians' Summer Recital Series. The Summer Recital Series is a series of programs that are going to various churches in Bemidji on every Wednesday noon throughout the whole summer, starting the first Wednesday of June and ending the last Wednesday of August. So, it brings the community into different churches and it showcases the type of music that they do at any particular church. One thing that I really enjoy about it is the visual part of it, going into another sanctuary and performing, because to me, the visual and the musical are very, very closely linked. And so, to go into another church and hear music with their stained glass windows and just in a different venue is very gratifying to me. I think it's pretty unique that we have it. For me, personally, it's fun just to see different houses of worship. Church sanctuaries often have a beautiful acoustic, so it's really fun to be able to hear the sound. It's often really live. It's also a gift for me to get to see different individuals share their gifts. It has primarily instrumental performers, people who are in the most part members of that congregation or involved in the music in that particular congregation, or others that are invited in to be a part of the particular program. I'm Kenneth Wold. I'm the chairman of the Bemidji Area Church Musicians, the group that sponsors the Summer Recital Series that has gone on for 30 years in various churches in Bemidji. The Summer Recital Series provides for each church an opportunity to let their musicians be displayed in a public way beyond more than just their congregation. I'm Carol L. Johnson, and I'm involved in the Church Musicians Recital Series. I am the treasurer of the Church Musicians, and then performing with Wayne Hoff as piano and organ duets, and then accompanying the hymns and accompanying my daughter. So, back in 1987, a group of fellow church musicians that had been friends for many years decided that it was time to kind of showcase the organists at various congregations. One of the organists said, when I play the organ, people are walking into church or out of the church or taking up the offering. I want them to just sit down and listen. And so it was decided that we should maybe just highlight the organists. And so back in 1987, we decided to start a Summer Recital Series, and we began with four different churches. And then at that time, back in 1987, people were told to bring a bag lunch because it was really geared towards people that were maybe working people and had an hour for lunch, and they could come in, enjoy some music, have their lunch, and get back to work on time. As this evolved, we started saying, well, maybe the churches would like to provide a luncheon. And it seemed like that worked out to be a really good idea. It was not only convenient for the people who came to hear the music, but it was also a fundraiser for individual groups in the churches. Sometimes the youth group did it, sometimes the men's group, sometimes the ladies' group, so a variety of people. And as the series grew, we started adding more Wednesdays and more Wednesdays. And that's how it evolved. I was one of the founders, I guess you could say. I'm Wayne Hoff, and I was in on the ground floor of this Recital Series. I think we started in 1987. I put on a recital here at Ordole Church the first year we had the recital, and it is pronounced Ordole. It's not Ardole, as you may have heard in the community. I was asked by some of the members of the group. I think there was a person in the church that was friends with one of the original members of the group, and they asked me if I was interested in being a part of it. And I said, sure, I'll give it a try. And we got through the recital, people seemed to enjoy it. And I guess I was pretty much part of every recital ever since, at least most of them. It puts you in touch with the community. I mean, there's a lot of community members that come to it, and it kind of keeps your performance alive. But it's nice to have something where you can actually do your own programming. Most of the other things that I play for are programmed by the music teachers, or the directors, or whatever. So it's nice to have something that you have control over what's on the program. Music in the church is a way of bringing praise to God. It draws people together, it draws people in the congregation together. It celebrates the things that God has given to all of us, and our churches individually have their congregation celebrate. Now people come in from different congregations to also be a part of that particular display of talents that celebrate what a particular church has had to offer. People really enjoy this one day a week opportunity to get out with others, perhaps not from their own church, to be a part of the concert and the fellowship time that takes place afterward. The organist is kind of still the staple in many churches, but music evolves, and people started adding more contemporary groups, and other instruments became more prevalent. And so we still had our organists as maybe still the foundation, but then we started adding other instrumental groups. We stayed away from vocal because we felt that choirs in every church were heard and seen, and they had a special part in the service, so we kept it as instrumental. And I think by doing that, it gave other people an opportunity to share their music. So now we have string groups, we have brass groups, we have hand bells, we have flute quartet, we have a French horn quartet. So it has really evolved that way, and it's showcasing other instrumentalists in the church. And I think it's maybe getting more people involved because they're seeing, you know, gee, I could bring my violin to church one Sunday in play, or my flute or whatever. You don't have to just be a singer or at the keyboard. We started with just the four, and it was just kind of a nucleus of those of us who knew each other. And then we said, well, this is going well. Maybe we should see if the organists from this church would like to participate next summer. And we usually got a yes, and it just kind of kept growing from there. And then as others would say, well, you know, we have this string group. Maybe they could play, oh, we would welcome that. So all of a sudden we have week seven. Now we have week eight, and it just kept, it was kind of snowballed from there because there were so many churches in our Bemidji area, and they did have other instruments than just the organ. So that's how it grew. It offers a variety of music that is presented to the community by the community. So everyone who's performing are local people, they're your neighbor, they're your relative, a friend, whatever. And they just provide that 30 minutes every week, something totally different, religious music that people can enjoy, and then the lunch that follows. So it's a fellowship and it's an appreciation of church music. And I think the longevity is there because people are just, they support it, they enjoy it, they look forward to it every summer. I'm already getting people saying, do you have the 2018 schedule ready to go? And if so, I need a copy because I schedule my weeks, you know, because I want to get to as many as I can. Well, they get a good lunch. They have a salad luncheon. The recitals are sort of laid back. They're not real strict as far as, you know, what you can or can't perform. So it tends to be kind of an easy listening sort of experience for the audience. They're able to just come and just enjoy something that might be kind of different that they might not hear at other venues in the town. They can get an idea about what other churches and other musicians are doing and maybe incorporate some of that into their own services. I do worry about the future of it because there are getting to be fewer organists and even fewer pianists, you know, because of, there's many factors contributing to that. But in any case, I really hope that this does have a future. My name is Andrew Ranovic. I'm a pastor at Calvary Lutheran Church. And I've been involved with music for a long time. I grew up playing the violin and I wasn't sure when I moved to Bemidji if I'd be able to plug in musically. And I've been able to do it a lot more than I expected. I started with the Bemidji Symphony Orchestra soon after I came here. I think it was winter of 2010. I'm not sure what summer was my first summer in the recital series, but it's been at least six years. And I've mostly played in a trio that's been supplemented by different musicians. John Romer and Sarah Carlson have been the mainstays. And this last summer, our performance was at First Lutheran. I've played with John and Sarah a lot. So there's a good comfort level. Lutherans love music and Bemidji more broadly certainly does. And we knew last summer with First Lutheran going through the renovation that we couldn't be in the sanctuary so that we would be in this smaller but still really good space. But it is exciting to have a full house. And I think John and Sarah are pretty well known in the music community. So people are curious to come out and see us. In general, our ensemble, The Turtle Island Ensemble, has tried to do global music. We really understand music to be a sort of bridge builder, a source of peace and understanding and communication and positive relationships. So for that particular concert, we got to collaborate with a couple of different people. Two, a Mike Tangin on guitar and Sarah Carlson's daughter Claire played Native American flute. And then we had a young woman who sang Panas Angelicus. So we had a wide variety of music and different tonalities and probably a combination of instruments that isn't often together. The initial work is usually done by John. John has a deep history in directing choral ensembles. So he's kind of our planner. He's the first contact person, but he gives me a call probably in April or May. He throws out some music ideas. He says, how does this sound?  All of us do some individual work with the music on our own parts so that when we come together, we can put the music together with just a couple of rehearsals. At minimum, we try to meet together twice unless we're doing music that we've done several times together. I think broadly speaking it strengthens and also portrays the already strong arts fabric that we have here. Obviously historically, theologically, sort of culturally different churches have represented really different traditions and sometimes that has been conflicted. Music is such a good bridge builder in this case. It blurs the line in good ways between the secular and the spiritual. So it brings us together. It gets us after each concert sharing a wonderful lunch together and it just sets a sort of inclusive and participatory tone. Like it's not just one soloist in Bemidji who can have the stage but that there are lots of gifted people. Well, there has been turnover of members in our group in the early days, Pat Kendall, Shannon Jones, Larry and Mary Jane Schroeth and Kenneth came on fairly early on. He oversaw the choral music program at Oak Hills Bible College for over 50 years. Very gifted musician and such a nice man and he is like our president right now and has served in that capacity for many years. He also has deep ties at the evangelical free church and the fine people and culture of music there and it's fun to see the people who show up all the time for different events and have sort of undiminished enthusiasm and Kenneth is one of those people who makes an effort to get to know the performers and I assume does a great deal of work behind the scenes to organize because there is administrative work to be done. Great organizer, great people person has such a connection in the community and such a strong supporter of this organization and of musicians and we want to see if we can't get more and more young people to go into music and certainly to go into church music and stay involved in your home congregations or in any congregation or on campus when you get to college. Well I think there were a number of highlights in our summer recital series in 2017. We had very good attendance. Excellent attendance for the summer. Average of over 150 people. The concert at Ordal Lutheran is always one that people look forward to. They pack the place. How many would seat maybe 75 people and there were 150 there that day? Ordal is just very special of course and I'm not a member there but it's a very special church has a lot of heritage in our community. Ordal Lutheran has their special musician, Wayne Hoff, who people in the community know pretty well and Wayne always does some rather significant things and has a lot of fun when he gets at the piano and invents for his own style. Carol Johnson of course is with him on that concert as well as her daughter Jennifer who's saying a couple of things. And then of course to get to share music and make music with Wayne Hoff who's been a dear, dear friend and he goes way back to the 30 years ago as well. So he and I have that connection very good friends and of course share our love of music. I love it. I absolutely love performing with other musicians. Most of the time it's just me playing for services so I love having people to collaborate with. I had two songs in the program chosen for the congregation to sing or the audience to sing along and Wayne at the piano gave it all kinds of drinks and excitement. And we did some hymn arrangements. Praise to the Lord the Almighty was one of them. That's always been one of my favorites. And we played off from some hymn arrangements but we both added some of our own features to it like extra notes and we also did some secular music. The Blue Danube Walls and of course that's kind of near and dear to me because I used to be involved in what was called the Neri Community Band which my grandfather Van or Tang born directed and the Blue Danube Walls was one of our main pieces that we would perform with that. So it was kind of fun to do something like that also. And it's been really a blessing to me to be able to get to perform with my daughter who also is a church musician and music teacher so she was brought up with music in our home of course. We had a very large crowd here. I don't think we could have fit another person in the building but I have been doing this for almost 30 years now so I was kind of used to that but every year it's gratifying because there's always a new face that maybe wasn't there before. People seem to say to me that they really enjoy this and that some friend invited them and they were so glad that they found out about the recitals and other times people come from out of town the state of Iowa, the state of Wisconsin farther away and are here for the summer and they take a look at the information, find out what are the recitals that particular time and come to the recitals and they tell me oh we always look for the schedule to find out when the recitals are. If people want to attend the summer recitals series there are several ways to get the information. All of the churches in town are asked to publish a schedule in their bulletins so it's available and sometimes online at the churches and the Bemidji Pioneer displays the information. We also put it on the radio, the television and it's available on the Chamber of Commerce website. We've got it out in a lot of places. The church musicians have received an offering at the door every recital throughout the whole 30 years. We decided early on that there would not be an admission fee for these recitals and so what we do is we just simply take a free will offering and then that free will offering goes to the Bemidji area church musicians. And as that fund had grown we talked about ways we could make use of it in helping people in the area. We used some of that money for a choral workshop for several years but as time went along people said you know there are high school students who are going on in music who have been involved in church music in their churches. We'd like to offer a scholarship to those people. And we have done that for all these years and we start the process in February and we have an application process and it is available to high school seniors that will be graduating in the spring and our main criteria that they be either a music major or a music minor and then we base the funding on their criteria. Our group has a meeting once a year to choose the scholarship winners. They have to submit an audition tape and resume and all of that and there's some really good talent out there. And we've been very fortunate through the years we've had so many qualified students that have received the scholarships. And we have subsequently given as many as five scholarships to commencement students going off to college. And then they receive it one year and then the following summer they are part of the recital series. So then the people that come and are supporting the scholarships can see the talent of these young people that they have financially supported. That's one of the benefits that the recital series has offered to the community is to provide for these students encouragement to go on to college and to be involved in church music actively both while they're still in high school and as they go on off to college to be a part of the church wherever it is they're located. I guess I would like to see perhaps something help the local churches more directly bring these people into their congregations to play church music because as it is right now or as it has been you know we'll give a scholarship and there's no guarantee that that person will continue to live in Bemidji or be part of the Bemidji area churches and so I'd like to see if maybe we could devise some programs to actually help our congregations because there is a problem with churches not having organists and pianists. It's getting to be almost crisis level so I'd like to see us address that issue. I think the model that we have is pretty good but one of the characteristics that I like is how it focuses on young musicians so the scholarship element and so I think that intergenerational relationship that is there where adults and elders can get to see these young student musicians and then encourage them. There's the scholarship element so I hope that we'll continue to invite new voices. I'm glad that I've gotten to perform regularly but I hope that other people who want to join in and share their gifts are able to as well. I think the goal is to just continue incorporating even more musicians, maybe some different instruments that we haven't showcased yet and of course we just want to continue to build our audience and get more and more people coming to hear the music. I think the summer music recital series is a communal decision to celebrate music, to spread it around to make a venue to try to understand other denominations and other church buildings. I think the commitment to church musicians is strong. Obviously we have access to wonderful recorded music but there's something about live music that simply cannot be replaced and I think there's a commitment to accessibility to having a concert in the middle of the day means that it's safe for people to drive. It's also a shorter concert, 30 minutes and it's free will donation so that makes music accessible, not just something that's available to the upper crust or the elite. Well I would like to see more young people involved in it because at some point we're going to have to pass the torch to the next generation and I would hope that our people attending would bring their relatives, their young children, neighbors, whoever to see how fun church music can be to put together. There's probably like a myth out there that church music is stodgy and stuffy and it's really not. There's a lot of fun that can be had putting it together with other instruments collaborations with other people singing, all of that sort of thing so I would hope that we could get more young people involved in it in both the performances and to be audience members so I would encourage our audiences to try to think about that and maybe see if they can interest some of the youngsters in their lives in it. To watch Common Ground Online visit lptv.org and click Local Shows. For episodes or segments of Common Ground call<PHONE_NUMBER>. Production funding of Common Ground was made possible in part by First National Bank Bemidji, continuing their second century of service to the community, a partnership for generations, member FDIC. Common Ground is brought to you by the Sincultural Heritage Fund with money by the vote of the people November 4th, 2008.


So, although I serve on a few committees with nominees from the ARC and Intermarcy and Universities of Australia, I'm not speaking on behalf of those August bodies, so any opinions I express are definitely my own. So, what I do to start off with is really talking about sort of the brass tacks when we're thinking about data. So, generally we're thinking about the way in which is access collected or generated. And that data can be in a variety of forms, so it might be documents or survey responses, it might be test results or some sort of audio-visual files, it could be a range of information. When we're talking about personal information, that might be individually identifiable, and these are the terms that the national statement uses. So it can be individually identifiable or re-identifiable, so we're talking about something that may be as coded where the researchers have got access to the code key. And then non-identifiable, so that might be coded by an agency that's supplying it to the researchers, but the researchers don't actually have the code key. Or all of the identifying information has been stripped out, so it's anonymous. And I think it's worthwhile pausing in terms of sensitive personal information because information is not sensitive personally if it's just because it's humiliating or embarrassing or might expose people to risk. Because the Privacy Act actually defines very clearly what's considered sensitive information. The Privacy Act actually closely defines what's considered to be personal information. And so when we're asking participants to give their consent, that consent might be specified for a particular project or a particular use, a particular group of researchers, or it might be extended in terms of future research by that team that's in a related area, or it might be unspecified, it might be a general consent for the research use that they were information. And we need to think about information both in terms of when it was access collective or generated. We need to think about then during the course of the research where it's being stored or how it's being communicated between collaborating with the searches and then after selling. And then finally in terms of how it's going to be disclosed or shared, whether or not it's going to be added to a repository or bank in some way, if it isn't actually going to be a feature of the output for the research. So a single project actually might involve sort of multiples of all of those settings in terms of things like the form of the data, whether or not their personal information, the degree of which are identified and then things like the type of consent that's obtained. So we might actually have multiple settings for different data across a project. But I think it's important to reiterate to everybody that just because research involves ethical sensitivities or risks, it doesn't mean that research is compromised or it's a problem. Quite often the fact that there's ethical challenges for research is actually being indicated that it's perhaps very important that it's going to make some sort of social or broader contribution. And so we should be embracing when that research involves those challenges, not trying to avoid them. So the fact that there are ethical concerns, that it's not a reason to say that the research isn't valid or to say that we shouldn't be accessing or sharing of data, it just maybe means that we require a bit more precautions or arrangements in place. And for individual researchers, you need to be prepared for the fact that the group with the revealing of research might not actually be that familiar with your research design or the topic area. So it may well be that you need to sort of engage with the reviewers to explain the reasons for the research, explain what the benefits are, explain about the data sharing and be ready to justify your approach and take an educative role in terms of those reviewers. And I'm not talking about it being confrontational, though it's been known to happen, but there should be that sort of engaged discussion between researchers and reviewers. But with some careful preparation, it's possible to avoid delays or problems with the research ethics review of a piece of work in the sharing of data. So when you're thinking about sort of research ethics and research integrity of your data, there's a few things to think very quickly. So the guidance in terms of human research ethics can be found in the national statement. And in terms of research integrity, it can be found in the Australian code. And both of those documents have got content on a particular point when we're talking about this issue. So matters like privacy, consent and risk, you'll find across those two documents. And currently, there's reviews underway in terms of both the national statement and the Australian code. And I should face up that I'm involved in the review of the national statement. So there are updates going on and there's public consultations coming. So as a group, it's important that you keep out. You eye out for that and you have inputs or reviews are going on. For those of you that may be a base outside of Australia or during a search outside of Australia, there's comparable documents in other jurisdictions. And in fact, over the course of the last decade, there's increasingly research ethics and research integrity of frameworks in sort of continental Europe in Africa, Southeast Asia and beyond. So you may need to actually refer to those documents in the other jurisdictions. So in terms of the frameworks, a couple of implications. One is the collection of the data and then the use of maybe sharing the data is, it will likely to be considered human research, particularly if it's identified information. And so require some research ethics review. And it may well imply to sort of existing data sources of material from the web or social media. And hopefully your institutional frameworks give you some advice in terms of whether or not it's considered human research. And so then because of that, you need to be thinking about the consent that you obtain and whether or not it's specified, extended or unspecified and what that consent allows for. You need to think about the degree to which that information is identifiable. So is it directly identified in terms of individuals? Is it possible that individuals could be identified by inference, including what within social media there's sorry, social science research increasingly there's reflection on what we call internal identification. So if for instance you were talking about a group of research ethics bureaucrats and you said that you spoke to a bureaucrat that gets around in the world chair and is in his 40s and is losing his hair, you may not have said my name, but people that work in the sphere will know that you're talking about me. And sometimes the internal identification can be more problematic than sort of a general population identification. So we need to be reflecting in terms of are there risks associated with the degree to which people could be identified? Are there risks associated with the release of that information? I think it's important to recognize that there will be groups of people that won't be concerned if they're identified. It may well be that there's a situation that is talking about people that are relatively senior that will be very able to look after their interests when they're concerned. But that's likely to be a project specific reflection. And tied to that, there will be some participants who will demand to be identified if you're talking about sort of activists on a particular issue. It may be a condition of them providing their information is that they will be identified. So that's something that you need to accommodate. So when you're seeking consent for the research use of information, there's a few things that you need to really cover. So there are things you need to include. So thinking ahead in terms of the sharing, banking, and research use, reuse of that information. So is it going to be added to a repository? And talking about the degree to which it's going to be identifiable and really anticipating in terms of and whether or not in terms of consent, the degree of specificity about how that information might be used for other research or shared for other purposes. Being careful not to embed research consent into other consent. So if you're doing research in an area like language support for international students, you don't want to embed the research consent into the process for a person volunteering to receive some support. Making sure that you provide details of a withdrawal mechanism. So participants know what they need to do to withdraw the consent later so that the data could be removed from the banking repository. And then thinking about the mechanism by which other researchers will access that data. So will it be that they're accessing it and identified form or what's the custodian's role in terms of that access? And really in terms of whether or not the other researchers will see an identified form, we're identifiable or not identifiable. Obviously it's really important to make sure that you're keeping good records. So the systems that we're talking about and the workshops in our area are examples of the ways in which you can record the information. So if you will forgive some showing the self promotion but you don't really have any choice because I'm the one with the mic. But along with a couple of colleagues of mine, so Colin Thompson, Mark Israel and Martin Tollett from New Zealand, we maintain a couple of free resources for researchers. So one of them is a resource library that includes a variety of documents and then also there's a research ethics monthly blog. So both of those talk about research ethics and research integrity. I definitely encourage you to drop by and have a look at those resources. Thank you, Gary. Yeah, there's one question. So thank you very much, Gary. And we've got 78 connections on the line at the moment. Just to let you, speakers, presenters know, a question of what is the timeframe for the review of the national statement and which body is overseeing the review? Okay, I mean, that's a really good question because first of all, it's important to stress that the review bodies are including people from the ARC, University of Australia and the NHMRC and various nominees. So there's a real attempt underway to make sure that it's an inclusive approach to speak to the wide gamut of research designs. The actual review of the national statement, it's an ongoing rolling review. There's material that's been released progressively, so that's why last year we saw the opt-out approach to recruitment and consent was released as part of that rolling review. The next block of material, which I've been involved in, hopefully will appear before the end of this year and public consultation will all happen well before that. In terms of the Australian Code, I'm not sure because I'm not privy to that conversation, but I think it's close to being ready for public consultation. And I guess just to reiterate to the group, you know, get involved in that public consultation. Even if you look at it and think you like what's being done, make sure you speak up to express the fact that you're happy with it because otherwise the only voices we hear are the people that aren't happy. So make sure you're involved and you speak up for sort of useful and constructive change. No, that was excellent. Thank you. The other question is, do you think researchers are better informed about ethical issues related to data management now than they were several years ago? Or do the same challenges remain? I mean, once again, that's a really good question. I mean, one of the things, if you're sort of watching the media or if you've got your Google set up, you will have seen in the last... I've just asked a couple of months, there was the emotional contagion, social media, I might say fiasco, but problem. And there was also, recently, there's the OKCupid one, which has sort of highlighted the fact that it's very easy for people to run into trouble. I think that there is a growing awareness, but I think that it's really important that institutions provide resource material to support researchers. I think that we all need to work a lot harder in terms of making sure those resources are available. And I think, you know, I'm not talking about rule books, I'm not talking about a rule book about how to fill out an application form well. I'm talking about things that support the reflective practice of researchers. And hopefully, that's something that we'll be seeing more of. But, you know, hey, there's a reciprocal obligation on researchers as well to abound themselves of those resources. Excellent. Thanks very much, Gary. That's all the question... Oh, sorry, there's a comment here. Can you comment on data governance? And whether you think data governance needs a national approach, what is your vision for this? And before I answer, I just want to reiterate again, I'm not speaking on behalf of the ASCAA and the ASL University of Australia. But, I mean, I think that there is an argument to have a national reference point. I'm not saying that we need a, you know, a national standard that we all have to comply with, but I think that there is value to having a resource that's informing our practice. So, you know, I think that that's a space that something can usefully be done. One of the reasons why the four of us set up the RX Web Resources was to try and encourage some of that conversation between them. Fantastic. Thank you. I'll just clarify that that question came from Dr Weeming Boone at the NHMRC. So maybe a conversation continuing there. Disclamer, disclaimer, disclaimer.


Plastico's mucho ahi, grande! Yo everybody, welcome back to the channel. Hope you're having a good one. We're getting packed and stacked and ready to whack em. Down in Mexico. Last video you saw my journey, not catching anything fish. This is about to change.   But not that kind of pack mule in Mexico. Don't get carried away now. I'm talking about goog and green pack mule. I can smell the 40% of niece in there already. I had a hunch that Trenchogs was going to be essential down there. So taking a ton of Trenchogs. Taking an assortment of everything but really went heavy on the trenches and we've got a bunch of hard bits back there. 25 pound test, 65 pound break, 50 pound break. We've got some grande bangers. We've got a little bit of everything. We know we've got them juicies in there as well. Singers, grande bricons. You've got to have your Lunker Logs when you're heading down to Mexico as well. So folks, I think we're ready. I somehow need to get this into multiple suitcases. We'll see if that can be done. We've got an Axis Deer all the loose. We're at the HQ. This little one isn't sure. It's not really sure what's going on. You need to be over there with your friends. Actually, I'll take that back. Those are Fallow Deer. Look at this Fallow Buck just running right now. He thinks the food is coming in hot. Either that or he's on the doe action. Gather your herds, sir. Gather your herd. Little Fallow Deer. Got some tasty meat. When I go back to New Zealand, I definitely want to get one of those. Put it in my belly. Wow. He's coming in. He's coming in. Probably thinks he's going to be fed. The Fallow Deer, ladies and gentlemen. Beautiful and majestic. One of the most majestic creatures. But I don't think they're really known for their wits. How am I going to fit all these baits? This isn't just for me. This is for everybody. Into a few bags. So I've got a huge duffel bag here. This is what I use on a lot of my big travel trips, hunting trips. This holds a ton. Not really a ton. But we're going to find out. This is definitely going to be overweight, I think. Justin, Lunker Logs alone. The weight is just, it's intense. These are like, you know, two pound bricks. So these are things of like six. There's usually like six to eight baits in every package. So let's do some math here. Six times eight, that's 48. Let's call it 50 for easy purposes. And then we got this right here. It says 96 packs in there. Not even going to act like I can do that. But 96 times 50, that's 4,800. That was one box. And then I've got even more boxes in here. So I'm estimating this is probably upwards of 6,000 baits. 6,000 individual baits. Are we going to get 6,000 bites? There's over a dozen of us going. This is over the course of like four or five days. Are we going to get that many bites? I'm sorry to think about it. I don't know. This is an awful lot of plastics. If it's on, I would say we could be getting close. Most of my experience in fishing, you know, take what you think it's going to be downscale about 50%. Yeah, we're not going to go through much of these plastics. But maybe we'll end up giving them to some awesome Mexican danglers down there. It's going to be a fun adventure, y'all. But right now, this is going to be a tight squeeze. Way down, Mexico. Okay, all after a late night of ponderance, I finally figured out how to get all the things I need into, well, it ended up being four containers. So here's my clothing suitcase that I ended up packing. And there's hardly any clothes in it. So I've got like three main big boxes. All my reels are in this bag right here. Six reels in there. I've got a couple for my boy, Andrew Flair, who's popping in from the farm. Three things of chartreuse dip and dye. We have probably 50 or so jigs in there. We opened this up. I convinced probably, I don't know, 50 crankbaits into one little nice box. This is a coffin box. It's very deep. It fits a bunch. I've got a bunch more jigs in here. So I've got casting and flipping jigs. I've got a bunch of the hammer hooks. This is meat and potatoes componentry right here. That's your 45 or 9 mils ready to attack. And then all the extra random stuff that I just kind of picked up from last minute tungsten and pegs and other stuff, what not. This is all the packaging I went through to condense what you just saw in the suitcase. I don't know how I did it, but I did it. This one is definitely overweight. I bet you this is 60 pounds of straight plastics. I ended up having to get another duffel bag just to put other hardbaits and stuff in. So this has got swimbaits, line, other hardbaits, scissors. Oh yeah, and a rod tube. You know, this rod tube. I need you to take care of my chickadees while I'm gone. I guess I need to lock them up every night.  You know, last time I went away. I let two go. That was not my fault. On your watch. The fox got them. Buenos dias from a goat farm in Mexico, ladies and gentlemen. So all our stuff made it here. Me, Flair, and Juan Carlos, a.k.a. Senior Bass are all here on a journey right now before the rest of the Googians get here. It's called Unchartered, and this is a series that we collaborate with Ketchco with. We play in these trips. We get a group of people together that have never been to a certain area, and they just thrust themselves into the wild unknown. And as you can tell from my current location, that is actually happening. We are in the wild unknown right now. So we are not even to the lake that we're going to be fishing yet.  We had some local food. It's like some travel channel stuff, but that's why we're out here to goat farm right now. But the lodge we're staying at is pretty cool. There's a lot of, like, Aztec memorabilia in here, and I just want to take you inside. I'll show you a little bit, so check this out. Someone from, like, an old Aztec community, I forget what they call it down here. I'm embarrassed. I can't pronounce it or say it, but they took thread and threaded this mural.  You know, you've got Jesus Christ right there. JC, shout out. And then you've got a whole bunch of other different things going on here. Different murals of different, you know, you can see the corn right there. There's some sort of, like, deer, god. Obviously, you've got the sun god over here. A bunch of different gods going on. A little bit, some creepy. Some creepies happening in there, in the woods there. A little bit of creeper Mickey right there as well, but there's just a lot going on there. I've never seen anything like that. It's a unique piece. And sitting above right here, we have the Mickey Wannos. Mickey Wannos deer, which is different than the Coos deer and the Whitetail and the Mule deer. This is a different species I've never heard of. It is a, like, a same size body as a Whitetail, but they're antlers, or a little bit smaller. Whereas like a Coos deer, it's just, well, he's pretty small. There we have the majestic Whitetail, as we know. So there's a lot going on here. Also a lot of ticote.  They cook right in here. And they have the meat right there. They just throw it over the hot coals. It's like having a little camp inside of the camp. Check that out. There's a mountain lion that was killed out here. Also apparently had a big bear here at one time. Took it down with the old shotgun. So I'm not exactly sure what this lake of Cachillo looks like, but we're going to go check it out together. And that's where we're going to be for another, like, four or five days with Guggen Squad. I'm just filming. I got to get my boy, Juan Carlos, in this video. Ford's over. He's munching down right now. But he's got buddies down here. He's got the fishing reports. And supposedly they're just starting to spawn. So the weather this week looks amazing. It could be setting up for an absolute Mexican bass massacre. Senior bass. He's the number one YouTuber south of the border. And he's a sensation. He's a sensation among all Spanish-speaking outdoorsmen. So we're going to get the fishing report from him. Hola. Senor, come over here. Buenos dias. I've already introduced you as the, you know, the bass fishing outdoorsman, extraordinaire. How do you say that in Spanish? Extraordinario. Oh, God, that's sexy. So you're actually doing a little bit more outdoor content, like overall now hunting as well. So you guys want to follow him. He's linked down below. But we got to get the fishing report, the El Cachillo. So I've been kind of telling the audience about El Cachillo. Fortunately, I have some friends here that have been fishing while we're in the US. So they've been, they've been saying fishing is good. Yesterday. Thank you. Got an eight pounder. One of my buddies got an eight. There's a tournament going on right now. Yeah. There's a tournament going on right now. So they put up about 22 pounds on four fish. So that's four fish tournaments down here. Yeah. And they can't have fish over. Over 22 inches. 22. Yeah. So not even one fish over 22. Not even one. So four fish under 22 inch, 22 pounds. That is. And they caught one over 22 inches. They should be moving up shallow. You know, jigs might play a good part. Bandito bugs. Yeah. This guy likes jigs. Bandito bugs, warms, you know, just the whole pre-spawn and spawn pattern. So hopefully we knock one or two out on this trip. We're going to wreck them, baby. Yeah. Yeah. I've been on a streak of terrible bites here lately. So I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it. But just don't watch it. Oh yeah. Or it just gets easy. For sure. Yeah. We're going to get him. We're going to go check out the lake right now. Plastico's mucho ahí. Grande. Grande. Verdes. Verdes. Plastico's masminas. Am I speaking the right language here? I think I'm doing okay. We have torn into our happy sacks. Got filthy into the baits. And we've given it an angle. You guys want to see the lake? Fong's wrong, baby. And we are finally here at El Cuchillo. Actually, I've already been out there on the water. We've been filming unchartered. First impression of the lake. Pretty good. I'm just going to say, eight big and was caught on our excursion out there today. We're staying at a pretty nice little place. There's like some villas out here. And there's also like a hotel resort scenario. And they allow, there's room actually for you to back in your boats and charge them and everything. So really cool. Also a lot of kayak fishermen out here. I even saw Wade fishing being done today. So it's all being done. All for the dangle, for the biggings. From what I've seen so far, y'all, they are spawning. We actually had some fish today where we were pitching into cover and we're getting repeated bites and like getting baits moved out of the area. And it's just a telltale sign. That fish are actually spawning. Thank goodness.  Plastic worms, jigs. I did catch fish on both today. I'm always happy when I can catch a fish. I want a jig. And it's not going to be just easy street. We're going to have to, it takes some skill, placing it into the cover.  You're going to be ready. 25-pound Tess Floreau, 65-pound Braid, must. Let me just flip the camera around so you guys can see here.  This is the lake. It's a big wide open lake with lots and lots and lots of mesquite trees. There is a river that has a ton of cover up in it. This little parking lot area probably isn't the best view of the lake, but it's just what I have to work with right now, y'all. But just trust me, we're dealing with shallow, aggressive bass and it's going to be a lot of fun. But we've got a lot of work to do on the Goo Goo Squad channel. Big group is all coming in. We've got Goo Goo Squad plus a lot of our partners and just our friends coming down. And me, Juan Carlos, a.k.a. Senior Bass, who's been a phenomenal help here, translating as we travel around. And then also my boy Andrew Flair. Out of the cornfield, straight white legs got scorched today. Well, stay tuned for the Unchartered series. It's going to be a good time. And always, guys, keep it locked right here by hitting that subscribe button. Hit the like button for international travel. And God bless you. Hasta la vista from Mexico.