Good evening and welcome to episode 324 of the Private Property Podcast. I'm your host, Uzaman Doha Kumalo. If you're joining us for the first time, welcome to the only Daily Property Podcast in the country helping you on your property needs. It doesn't matter where you are on your property journey, whether you're looking to buy, to sell, to build, or of course your property investor, this is a show that helps you along the way. To all our regular viewers on Facebook, on Instagram, as well as on YouTube, welcome back. You know how we do it every single weekday. You and I have an appointment at 7pm when we tackle a hot property topic and certainly that helps us make better property decisions. I know you can't see me this evening having a few technical camera issues. I do promise you that I'll be back on your screens tomorrow evening, but I know that you can hear me very loud and very clear. 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If you know that you've entered the competition, whether you've shared that pinned post, whether you have tagged some of your friends, then make sure you watch us until the end of the show so that you can claim your prize of that 500 grand in cash. Last week, we had the winner claiming the 2500 grand that was in the money bag. So this evening, we're going to have 500 grand that's in the money bag. And hopefully the winner will be watching us live in order to claim their prize. Well, this evening, we are looking at a conversation that I'm very excited about, especially when I was even telling our guests off air that this is something that I have gone through and I'll share with you just now. We're looking at special general meetings in sectional title communities. And my guest this evening is Zalinda Fanamadavam, the co-founder and director at TVDM Consultants. Zalinda, good evening and thank you so much for joining us. Hi, Zalma. Thank you so much for having me again and congratulations on one million followers. That's absolutely amazing. Thank you so much, Zalinda. And I mean, absolutely couldn't have done it without, of course, even yourself, the different guests that we have on our shows from the private property podcast with myself every weekday at seven to the other great shows that the years at home are able to watch every single weekday at 8 p.m. And so Zalinda, you and I were talking off air and I was telling you that when it comes to SGMs, I hadn't attended an SGM until I think it was about three or four months ago. I attended my first SGM and it wasn't long after an HGM that this HGM was called. And I recently attended another SGM and thought, you know what, I know that this is one of those things that don't always happen. But we are seeing it happen bit by bit. There are certain issues that owners want to bring up in an HGM. And I think during the course of our conversation, we want to look at what an HGM is, the kinds of issues that get raised in an HGM, and what's so different between an SGM and an HGM. So that's some of what our viewers at home can look forward to. And I think Zalinda, you know, let's get straight into it. When we talk about a special general meeting, what is it and how is it different from the annual general meeting? All right. So we're going to be focusing this evening on sectional title schemes, obviously governed by the sectional title schemes management act, which refers to general meetings of the members of the body corporates. One meeting being the annual general meeting, which happens once a year within four months of the financial year end. And then as many special general meetings as the members or the trustees want or need, that was something that you asked off air. Is there a limit to the amount of special general meetings that one body corporate can hold? And that's, there is no limit. So a body corporate can hold a special general meeting technically every 14 to 30 days if it needs to. Obviously, that's a little bit excessive. A lot of body corporates like to hold a special general meeting, perhaps mid-year point is a bit of a catch-up in between the annual general meeting, or perhaps they want to hold a budget meeting where the budget is informally tabled for member comment. Alternatively, there might be some other type of project that is needed to be raised or attended to, for example, conduct rules or management rules in a body corporate that need to be amended. Or even if a meeting is needed to be called by the members, that's a big one. And a lot of the special general meetings that we attend to at TVDM consultants is ones that are called by a group of members. And in order to do that, a member or a group of members need to get 25% support of their fellow owners calculated in participation quota. And they need to request that that meeting is arranged by the trustees. The trustees then have 14 days to call that meeting, and if they don't call it within 14 days, the requisitioning group of owners can call the meetings themselves, obviously ensuring that all the checkboxes are ticked with regards to formalities, and that's something that we'll deal with as well. And then, of course, that meeting is run by that group of owners, and notice periods still need to be complied with delivery methods of notices, et cetera, et cetera. So there is no limit on the amount of special general meetings, and I think the biggest difference between a special general meeting and an annual general meeting is an annual general meeting has prescribed business items as per the Act, which you don't deviate from. You can add to, but you can't delete from. Whereas a special general meeting can either deal with informal items or formal items and are sometimes called for a very specific reason and perhaps even just for one agenda item. So I think that's the biggest difference. And I want to reiterate that difference, Zalinda, because I'm sure with many of us at home who are still coming to grips with being owners in sectional title schemes and getting an understanding of our rights and responsibilities as owners, there's so much that we need to catch up on, because unfortunately, we don't typically find in our welcome pack everything that has to do with sectional title living. So the core difference between an AGM and an HGM is that in an AGM, there are certain prescribed issues that need to be addressed and you can add on, but you cannot subtract any of the issues. And that's a very important thing to note, because in the event where your AGM doesn't have certain issues that are prescribed, these potential recourse and Zalinda will even speak to us about it shortly. And then, Zalinda, you were saying that with an HGM, there can be formal and informal agenda items and sometimes there could even be only one item on the agenda. Perhaps take us through some of the issues that owners may want to look at or certainly have addressed in an HGM. Sure. So very often, like I mentioned, a special general meeting is called by a group of owners and the one that we deal with the most often is the removal of a trustee committee member or members. So in other words, your trustee committee is appointed at the annual general meeting, the chairperson is appointed by the trustee committee members and they manage the affairs of the body corporate on a day-to-day basis with or without a managing agent. And very often the members are unhappy with either the people that are chosen, alternatively what those people are doing or not doing. So very often the item of business at a special general meeting is the removal and the replacement of one or more of the trustee committee members. We often find that at the last moment, those people that are going to be removed actually step down. One can imagine that you don't really want to be on the firing line at a meeting where people have the intention of removing you unless you are 100% convinced that you've done the right thing and there's absolutely no grounds for your removal at all. So that's something that happens quite often. Another item that we deal with in singularity in a meeting is the amendment of the governance documents of the body corporate, so the conduct rules or management rules. And the reason that it's often dealt with at a special general meeting on its own, either at the same date, perhaps a bit earlier than the AGM or after the AGM, alternatively on a different day, is that that can be quite a lengthy meeting in its own right as the members are wanting to pull apart basically a draft set of rules and deal with every single issue, one on one. So from a time perspective, it might be a necessity to hold a special general meeting to deal only with that item of business. Something else that happens very often is the removal of a managing agent or the appointment of a managing agent. And then of course, special general meetings can be held for less acrimonious items. For example, when the trustees are actually able to take a decision but they don't feel comfortable or confident in taking that decision and therefore reverted to the members. So many people think that a special general meeting needs to deal with special business in other words special resolutions or unanimous resolutions but that's not the case. A special general meeting can deal with ordinary business items or ordinary resolutions that need a simple majority. For example, something that wasn't dealt with at an AGM can be dealt with at a special general meeting like the approval of the maintenance and pairing replacement plan or the appointment of an auditor or something along those lines. Alternatively, like I mentioned, there isn't even a need for a vote. It could simply be a bit of a discussion and an indicator to the trustees as to where they should be going on a certain project or a certain item of business that the trustees simply want the members input on. I am this evening in conversation with Zarenda Finna Madra who's a co-founder and director at TVDM Consultants and we're looking at special general meetings in sectional title communities. I want to find out from me at home if you are in a sectional title community what have been some of the issues that you've discussed in AGM, in SGMs rather. Have you ever had an SGM? Seeing earlier that I attended my first ever SGM a couple of months ago and it actually was about removing a particular trustee and we'll talk about that a little bit after the break in terms of how do we go about it? What are some of the do's and don'ts and procedurally? How do we ensure that we do it the right way? Because I think it's very easy for certain trustees to also have issues with a particular trustee and all kinds of alliances get formed. So by the time you attend that SGM it gets quite heated. So we also want to get a good sense of how procedurally should that happen and what kind of voting, the outcome of the voting, what should it be looking like in order for that removal to actually be valid? We are taking your questions and comments on our social media platforms and I see all the love that we're getting on Facebook. I see you Justice Samuel, I see you Seleni Pellea, also see you as well as Obalesa Selani showing us love there on our Facebook page and of course do keep the messages coming. We've got a Megan Fanskogbec saying sending all the love to us females with those green hearts. Of course we're still in Women's Month and part of how we're celebrating Women's Month is only having women as guests on the private property podcast with myself as I'm going to come along and so throughout the month of August you're only going to be seeing women throughout the show and I think one of the other things that I want to actually read as I was saying to you earlier that we posted on our Facebook page that we want and I've got some of the great posts that so many of you shared and we absolutely love the love that you are showing us. 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I'll be reading more of the great posts that you've shared telling us why you love private property and some of the things that you love about private property just after this break we're going to go for a quick break and here we're going to see who is that potential winner of the 500 grand in cash and I hope that you're watching because you know that in order for you to claim your prize you need to be watching live and text us down here below let's see who the lucky winner this evening is and the lucky winner this evening is you potentially going to be walking away with that 500 grand in cash make sure that you drop us a message before the end of the live we have 500 grand in the money bag so if you want to walk away with that 500 grand you just need to drop us a text but I'm still in conversation with Zalinda Farnamalva and as I said you know after the break let me go through one more post that you shared with us at home and this one is from one of our top fan Geng member Zubomani Kirin B. Mamunda saying my 1 in a million reason why I love private property is the everyday learning from the podcast and the other programs the beautiful houses at the the beautiful houses at the websites make to look to work triple as hard I can write a book about what I have learned here from the competitions winning the property guard and making friends and that's of course the one million reasons why you love private property that we are writing on our page so do make sure that you drop us a text and let us know what you love about private property now Zalinda before the break I said you know the first SGM that I attended was dealt with removing a trustee and it was quite a heated one because it's it's spilt over from the HGM and during the HGM it was an issue that was said you know what we'll deal with it in an SGM because it could very easily sort of derail the you know the HGM and the they needed to best prepare for that particular SGM and we had requested certain information and didn't want to vote on it during the HGM and so the SGM was called in order for us to address to address that particular pattern when we look at the removal particularly of a trustee because I'm seeing increasingly more and more people complaining about their trustees or sometimes even certain members who are trustees procedurally what has to be done in order for a trustee to be removed because I think this is one of those very contagious issues sometimes it's the chair who's been a chair for many many years and doesn't want to you know be removed so when we then do call that HGM procedurally how does it work in terms of removing a trustee so interestingly the trustees are responsible or are able to remove a chairperson they don't have to go to the members because the trustees elect the chairperson but you won't be removing the chairperson from their role as a trustee only from their role as chairperson so they would still remain a trustee until they resign or until they're removed by the members so that would deal with the position of a chairperson if you're wanting to remove a trustee or group of trustees you can't wait until the annual general meeting where the trustees automatically retire but can make themselves available for reelection then the process that I mentioned earlier about getting enough support together to call a special general meeting will take place so that is 25% of the members calculated according to participation quota so 25% of the total participation quota of the scheme so the larger units obviously would mean 25% a lot quicker than a whole bunch of smaller units and they would need to requisition the current committee of trustees to call a meeting the current committee of trustees has 14 days to actually put that notice together and send the notice out and if on technically the 15th day they haven't done that the group of requisitioning owners can put together their notice and send it out because it's an ordinary resolution not a special model unanimous resolution you only need 14 days notice if the trustees are going to call it the trustees by a trustee resolution with the grants of urgency can call it for a short notice period for example seven days but if the members are calling it they need to send out a further 14 day notice so basically from the date of the request for the meeting 29 days or 30 days later you end up actually having the meeting the meeting can be held physically or remotely or it could be a combination of both a remote attendance obviously being on one of the 110 different platforms out there you know Telephone, Skype, Zoom Microsoft Teams provided that it's a method that everybody is able to access everybody can participate and then of course the chairperson of the meeting is able to actually identify and allow to speak the relevant people the quorum at that meeting depending on the size of the scheme if it's four or more units it would be 33.3% of the total participation quoted needing to be at that meeting and then off that quorum there would then need to pass an ordinary resolution a majority decision as the removal of the trustee an important procedural item is that the agenda for that meeting when it is sent out via email only provided the owners have specified that they wish to receive the notices via email it doesn't have special business so not pre-paid registered mail actually specifies the intention to remove a trustee or a group of trustees interestingly the notice doesn't need to say why you don't need to air all the dirty laundry and say I want to remove the trustees because X, Y and Z that is dealt with at the meeting of course if someone is not able to attend the meeting and is wanting to instruct a proxy they would want to get that information beforehand now if the meeting is called by the trustees alternatively if the group of owners had to call it the members ultimately are going to decide who is going to chair that meeting and the chairperson of the meeting doesn't have to be the chairperson of the trustees and imagine how awkward it would be if you were trying to remove the chairperson as a trustee and he was the one or she was the one sharing the meeting obviously they'd be expressing their own opinion from the podium type of thing so you'd want to avoid that the meeting formality we spoke about it in line with the meeting that you mentioned that you had attended is that the vote has to be done via voting cards it's not on a show of hands like it used to be under the sectional titles act and it's also not done verbally even if a meeting is being recorded either audio recording or audio and visual recording like zoom or microsoft teams you still have to issue voting cards the act speaks about rather the management or speak about voting cards interestingly that's the only place in the act that it speaks about voting cards nowhere else but voting cards essentially means that the vote has to be recorded in writing electronically as well and form part of the records of the body corporate for people to come and inspect and request copies of later on there needs to be a quorum there needs to be an attendance that is kept if the meeting is being dealt with remotely it can be recorded as well and then of course it needs to be monitored and when it comes to voting you know there's very limited resources that we're able to use in sectional title schemes or community schemes in general I've been to quite a few successful meetings where a voting act for example meeting poll is used for the purpose of recording a vote if you're going to use the chat function or the poll function of zoom for example you need to make sure that the calculations are done correctly according to participation quota so in other words on the back end you're going to have to do all of those things correctly so there's quite a few formalities that need to take place when you deal with meeting like that which makes it even more difficult if it's going to be acrimonious and I think it's such an important one to note because we're increasingly seeing people wanting to remove trustees perhaps sometimes even the chair but certainly trustees thinking that they're not part of the they're not making decisions that put the best interest of people to corporate and they have their own agenda and so increasingly wanting to remove a trustee because sometimes of certain decisions that they've previously made contractors that got recommended and did work in the complex there's so many different reasons why people end up finding themselves wanting a trustee to be removed we're going to briefly also then look at the removal of the managing agent because that's another contentious one that I've been getting quite a number of questions about but before we get to that we're taking more of your questions and comments at home as we look at special general meetings in sectional title communities and I asked you early on in the show if you've ever had an SGM in your sectional title community and if you have what were some of the issues that were on the agenda and how did the SGM go for you in your sectional title community we've got a comment here coming through from Facebook from Farhanan Siddiqui saying we had an SGM regarding the lack of security in our complex it went well with the voting and we voted to get a new security company and once interviewed five companies one was chosen and our complex is safer and running smoothly and it really is that easy right you identify a particular issue that cannot wait for the SGM and safety is such a huge issue you know this is one of those issues that you don't want to have to wait a full year in order to address so many things can happen in the interim and so you're able to call for an SGM and have it resolved as soon as possible now Zalinda would you look at then the removal of the managing agent I've had people reach out to me saying they've had the same managing agent that's running their complex they're not doing a very great job or they are unhappy themselves and a couple of other owners are not particularly happy with the service that they're getting they also feel as though the trustees are in cahoots with the managing agent and that's why they haven't been able to remove them some don't know how you would even go about you know removing the managing agent what procedurally again in an SGM how does or how would a body corporate then remove a managing agent so it's a topic that's very often has a very unfair outcome I speak from my experience as being a managing agent previously that sometimes you are removed without there really being a cause in law so I think the warning to any trustees or any owners that are thinking about changing the managing agents is just to do so carefully and to make sure that they do so in accordance with the management agreement and that the expectations of the managing agent are actually in line with what managing agents offer you know a managing agent or rather a portfolio manager at a managing agency is you know a person that might not necessarily jull with a committee of trustees or a group of owners at a particular point in time and very often we're asked by clients you know how long should a managing agent or any service provider actually offer a service to the body corporates and there isn't any specifics you could be a managing agent or security provider or an auditor for years and years on end without anything actually being wrong of course if the service provision isn't up to par or not in line with the fees that are being charged or the needs of the body corporates that's a different matter completely so a managing agent can be removed by a trustee resolution or an ordinary resolution if it is the contract is terminated in terms of their contract so if there's a breach clause or a termination clause and that is followed to the T then it would simply need either a trustee resolution or an ordinary resolution taken at a meeting of the members if it is not going to be terminated in accordance with the contract or if there isn't a breach or a termination clause or perhaps even not a contract then it would need to go to a special general meeting either called by the trustees alternatively called by the members like I explained and a special resolution is needed and then two months notice is needed to be given as well so because a special resolution is needed the notice of the meeting must be sent out via prepaid registered mail and via email so as archaic as it might sound you can't simply just send the notice on via email when it comes to special or unanimous resolutions the notice has just been sent out via prepaid registered mail as well and when I was a managing agent we're very often used to get 90% or 95% of the returned unopened underlivered registered mails coming back to our offices a couple of weeks or months after the meeting so it is unfortunately a flawed system but the managing agent or the trustees have to prove that that in fact was done correctly interestingly in the normal course a special resolution or unanimous resolution has to be taken at a special general meeting called on 30 days notice whereas in a certain number of cases there can be an exception to that where it is called on a shorter notice period and interestingly the removal of a managing agent is one of those as well as the removal of the trustees that we spoke about and there are instances for example the installation of prepaid water or electricity meters where the meeting has to be called on a 60 day notice period and it can't be called any shorter than that so that's the process should one want to remove or terminate the contract with the managing agent if of course the termination is justified in terms of the level of service in terms of the contract in terms of what the members are reasonably expected or reasonably able to expect from the managing agent and of course as with any contract you wanting first to try to resolve the dispute or resolve the breach give the pot is the opportunity to resolve the breach because changing a managing agent can be quite disruptive to the body corporates and very often you have to compare apples with apples and see what you're getting in all those fun things and there are a couple of naughty managing agents out there that are not going to accept the termination of their contract and are going to hand over the records of the body corporates or wanting to fight the body corporates a little bit so it isn't always a smooth process but one must definitely make sure that it's done correctly in accordance with the relevant provisions of the act we are taking your last bit of your questions and comments at home this evening as we look at special general meetings in sectional title communities we've got a great comment we've got a comment here from Saleni Pellei saying we love you Zana with green hearts thank you very much there Salani and a really great question coming through from Umenzi Boutilesi on Facebook asking are we able to request an audit of the body corporate? Yes definitely so the body corporates finances are audited once a year as part of the preparation for the annual general meeting so once your financial year end you know comes upon the body corporates the members appoint an auditor and the appointment of the auditor is actually one of those prescribed agenda items for an annual general meeting of course that auditor that is appointed at the annual general meeting is for the forthcoming financial year if the financial statements are tabled at the HGM interestingly audited financial statements are no longer needed to be tabled at an annual general meeting it can actually be dealt with at a general meeting so in other words you can appoint your auditor at the annual general meeting deal with the audits and then come back to the members by a special general meeting but because audited financial statements only require the consideration of the members as opposed to the approval most body corporates still try to get the audited financial statements in time for the annual general meeting noting the four month period in which the HGM needs to be held so the body corporate is audited every single year except if all the sections are owned by one person and some of who were chatting about that before then the requirement of an audit is not needed anymore but if there are multiple owners then it is a requirement and it is also possible to appoint a forensic auditor if there is a need for that of course I've heard that a forensic auditor is exceptionally expensive and one really only wants to go that route if there is genuine cause for concern of mismanagement it hasn't been properly identified in the audited financial statements and then of course the body corporate can afford it so it is definitely possible to have that audit Great to squeeze in the last questions and comments on our Facebook page we've got Colin Janssen showing us some love there with the green hearts and Balisa Solani asking in the meetings do you vote anonymously or do we raise our hands? Let's take it with both physical and of course the digital ones many of us are obviously doing virtual meetings but how does the voting effectively work? Okay, so voting at a meeting no longer happens by a show of hands and one cannot say are there any objections or we assume nobody objects or unless you say something we're going to take it that nobody objects you have to at a physical meeting issue voting cards which is either a hand written document or an actual physical piece of paper or a card or a booklet of cards whatever process you follow that is completed and handed back in alternatively it can be by means of a voting app and then of course if you're going to be holding the meeting remote you a combination of physical and remote attendance then you need to use either a voting application I mentioned meeting pal for example or you could use the chat function on zoom or Microsoft Teams I think Skype might have something like that as well alternatively you could use the polling function but the calculation of the votes is very very important because an ordinary resolution of votes are taken by participation quota which obviously the chat function and the poll function doesn't cater for and if you're passing a special unanimous resolution it is both in number in other words one member one vote and participation quota so then very often the managing agent or the trustee that's running it or the platform operator that's running it actually on the back end has to have a separate spreadsheet put in place and overly risked from start up and this often was busy working on a spreadsheet like that that I'm sure all the managing agents are very very good at to actually then basically convert somebody's vote to their participation quota representation in order to give a proper outcome of the votes bearing in mind that the outcome of the votes has to be announced during the course of the meeting of course it can be confirmed following and needs to be recorded in the minutes as well the minutes also need to specify how the votes were taken who voted what and it's definitely not anonymous it's actually part of the body corporate records that if anybody has any debate about whether or not a vote was legally or correctly taken they're actually able to go and see who was at the meeting who was represented call room participation quota and actually have a look at how people voted and even compare how a proxy was supposed to vote versus how they did vote so it's very important that all of that is actually done properly and recorded either in writing or electronically for this investigation to happen afterwards if needed so Linda as we wrap up any final tips for views at home when it comes to special general meetings so interestingly I've been going to quite a few meetings obviously remotely and some of them have obviously dealt with call room issues so I find it very difficult to ensure that a call room of a meeting is maintained when everybody's cameras and their mute buttons are on and very often we are sitting in our PJs or having dinner or something along those lines and don't necessarily want our cameras on but it's very important to remember that a call room of a meeting has to be maintained for the business of the meeting to proceed and for voting items to be taken it's not just the call room at the start of the meeting but the call room for the duration of the meeting so if people are not going to participate in a meeting they're not going to have their cameras on their audio on it's very important for whoever that is running the meeting to have a constant check in to make sure that they still have a call room to make sure that people are still there you mentioned in your situation that somebody had technical difficulties and we went off the meeting that would affect your call room so you need to encourage participation even if you're going to mute people because of background noise and all that fun stuff you still want people to be able to participate just to ensure that you've still got your call room and we're going to leave it there this evening Zelinda thank you so much for joining us on the show thank you so much for the invitation have a fantastic evening further and that is Zelinda Fernamarva who's the co-founder and director at TBDM consultants wrapping up the Monday edition of the private property park cast with myself unfortunately William Delaney did not message us in time and so the money is going to roll over into the money bag so tomorrow evening you can stand a chance of walking away with 1,000 rands remember if you know that you have either commented tagged your friends or shared the post that is pinned on our Facebook page you want to make sure that you watch the show because if we call your name then you need to text us down here below to claim your price well that's where we're going to leave it this evening with my samples I'll be back on your screens with a camera we're going to sort out these technical glitches tomorrow evening at 7 p.m. until then hoping you're staying home and staying safe


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Think Tech Hawaii. Civil Engagement lives here. Welcome to Likeable Science. I'm your host here, Ethan Allen, on Think Tech Hawaii. Thanks for joining us. Likeable Science is all about how science is a vital and interesting part of everyone's life. It's not something just that scientists do. It's something that we all do. We all practice every day. We make decisions. We make choices. We figure things out using our science. But a lot of people don't appreciate that. So on this show we talk about why and how science is likeable to be appreciated. And with me today is Rob Kinslow. Welcome, Rob. Thank you. Rob is a sustainability consultant. But it's a very interesting career track, basically. Rob has done a lot of things with a farmer, was a high-tech engineer for Northrop, I think, doing weapons research or something. And now has a company, Ola Hawaii, Life for Sustainable Hawaii. I think what you said it means. So very interesting track for new sciences and something that not a lot of scientists do is moves we're in and out of science in that way or shifts so radically. I've made a few shifts myself in my scientific career but nothing quite this dramatic. So Rob, why don't you tell us just a little bit about sort of how you started. How you started as a rural Maryland, right? Yeah. And started as a farmer. Yeah. I was born and raised on an organic farm in western Maryland. And my dad was a farmer and a kind of technologist because he also worked at Mack Trucks building these, you know, high-tech trucks at the time.  And then, you know, when I got 18, 19, 20, I went off to and self-funded my way through the University of Maryland, became an aerospace engineer, mostly because I had a choice between archaeology and aerospace engineering. And they both begin with A? They begin with A. I don't know. Never got no further. One was in the earth and one was outside the earth. And so I guess that dichotomy or that, you know, right brain, left brain side of me continues to this day. And once I became an aerospace engineer, I worked for Northrop Grumman for 12, 13 years. For them, you did some very, some very cutting edge, weird, weird thing. Yes. For that matter, the technology that I worked on 20 years ago is just now coming to operational, you know, the JSF, the Joint Strike Fighter, which is now the F-35.  And so I was deep in the black hole, the belly, the beast, doing design and analysis. Truly industrial complex. Truly. Very much so. So there we go. I mean, that's, that's harder to get out of, I would think. Well, I can tell you a story about that, if you'd like. Please do. I can tell you how I get out because I remember the very moment that I made the decision to get out. I was in the building I worked in on this very highly stealth, so called special access project technology. I would go through a locked gate, I would walk to, I would park my car, I would go to a building, I'd walk through another guarded gate, I'd go in the building, I'd go through another locked door with a guard, and I'd go to my own little cubicle which had its own wall around it. And I'd unlock that, I'd go in there, unlock my documents, pull out my computer, sit down in my computer and start my day. But I was walking down the hall in between these multiple facilities, and I saw an older man coming at me, and he was shuffling, and he was gray, and he was bent over, and he'd look like he had been there a long time. Turns out he was the original YB-49 flying wing engineer. He had been with Northrop for 50 years at that time. And I was walking down the hallway, and I looked at him, and something came over me, and I went, that's me, if I don't get out of here. And so I made a promise at that time to myself to break out of there. And it took me three, four years, but I did. And that's where, that's how I'm here today, is because I got out of there. Right, but so, okay, great. So you decide you're not going to work for Northrop anymore, you don't want to be in that end of things. But it would have seemed that maybe you go off and join a high tech auto firm, or something like that where you could keep sort of that same set of skills moving along, but you obviously made some different choices. I did. And I guess it was because of my farming background and my right brain kind of coming into maybe its own focus or power. But I have often thought, why didn't I do that back then? And I don't really know the answer to that other than to say that I got swept along by traveling around the world and becoming a documentary filmmaker on travel show and coming to Hawaii and learning about the culture and the people and the art of lomi lomi and practicing that and then getting into community development, which is really why I quit Northrop was because I didn't want to kill people anymore, no matter what kind of people they were. I wanted to help people. And so that's why has really given me that fertility to create these seeds of sustainability, as I call them. Excellent. Excellent. So what is it that Ola does? Well, I have to give lots of credit to Jane Yamashiro for giving me this project. She had a project called Ola Hawaii. And the tagline for the project is living a sustainable Hawaii. And so there's a lot of unpacking there to do. First of all, living. It implies consciousness. It implies practice. It implies some set of principles, practices, prints and behaviors that then bring us into a place called Hawaii. And so for me, that really attracted me. And after she retired, I continued this work in in my own project based life. Okay. So did I answer your question? Yeah, yeah. No, it sounds interesting. I was just she was telling me that I was just thinking, I wonder what his old colleagues from Northrop Gremlin would think if you could hear him talking like this. Well, they're all, you know, they're all have houses and kids and and BMWs and maybe Teslas these days. And I still say in touch with them. Many of them, you know, they're a good group of guys. And there was very few girls in that group. I think one woman, one woman engineer. But I think they respect me. I haven't ever asked them that.  And you've gone on, you've done a number of different projects over the years here. Maybe you could enlighten us with a couple of your early ones and sort of how they've how they've then brought you. I think we started some back in the States, actually. Yeah, I began my I began my first sustainability project when I was working in Northrop. I was walking through this open space between Marina Del Rey and Los Angeles Airport called the Biona wetlands. And because I was looking for a place to kind of get away from the concrete jungle. And I laid down on the ground, which wasn't very wet in this area. And I had an epiphany. And it seemed to me at that time that all the animals and plants and all the voices of the wetlands kind of rose and came through me. And it was very kind of unsettling at the time, being a science based engineer, you know, very rational, realistic base. But it it caused me to create a land trust. And I created a land trust called the Biona wetlands land trust with a team of people. And we went on to work with others in a campaign to save 640 acres in which Steven Spielberg wanted to build his DreamWorks studio. And it took us six years. And we eventually wrote a conservation easement. And we wrote a $20 million bond issue that the governor of the state of California signed to purchase the land. So that was my first big win. And it was done because I had an engineering job. I was able to fund that project with my engineering money. And I've always self-funded all my projects. So that was my first project. When I came to Hawaii, I worked for a while for the Hawaii Ultimate League Association producing a bunch of sports events videos as a volunteer. And then I began a group called Facing the Future. And we were a group of people who brought experts in sustainability to Hawaii, like Dr. Steven Schneider, Climate Change, Richard Heinberg, Francis Moore LePay, people like that thought leaders who could educate and lift up the discussion in Hawaii about sustainability. This was 2004 through 2008. So, and then in 2008, I guess, you know, it was, there was a big, you know, the 2007 through 2009 of the crash, you know, financial crash really affected a lot of people in Hawaii. But in 2007, I was watching Oprah interview Al Gore on her show. And I saw him provide an invitation to have people come and train with him in public speaking and climate change communications. And I put in my application and I got accepted out of 16,000 people. Me, a little me in Hawaii got accepted and I went and was trained and that began another whole trajectory of public speaking and community education based on science, the science of climate change. And I've done about almost 80 presentations around the world, as far away as Africa, California and in Hawaii, but mostly to government and businesses because I believe that we should be talking to people who aren't in our agreement circle, who don't agree with us, we should be talking to them first, rather than to the people who do agree with us. I think it's the fatal flaw. Right, you don't need to sing to the choir. Why sing to the choir? You know, it's most effective and so that's what my campaign has been here in Hawaii, is mostly that. Well, that sounds very exciting. I'm going to take a little side trip here and tell them a little campfire story. It sort of sort of fits. So there's a little beast called the woolly bear moth and the woolly bear caterpillar, basically a little fuzzy caterpillar up in the Arctic, quite ubiquitous there. And so it's born from an egg when it finds spring day in the Arctic and of course Arctic spring and summer is very short, right? And so it frankly goes and eats and eats and eats and eats as fast as it can, but by the end of the summer it has not gotten nearly enough food into it to go undergo metamorphosis. So it basically crawls under a rock, spins a little silken row as it were, just lies there, freezes over the winter, very under the snow. Next spring comes, snow melts away, warms up a little bit, sings thaws out, wakes back up, transitions. Eats and eats and eats and eats and eats again all summer long, but typically at the end of the second summer it still hasn't gotten enough food. Wow. Goes and wraps itself up in its little silken robe under a rock, freezes again. Now maybe if it's in a fairly warm place down in southern Canada it might by the third summer have enough energy and growth to turn this bit, but far north these things will go for 12, 14, 15 years. Wow. 15 transitions, 15 cycles before they actually finally get to pupate, go into hanging out as a chrysalis for a bit and emerge as a moth, live for a few weeks and die. You know, hopefully having made it in laid eggs by the, but again just that kind of transition that just, you know, you talk about that and just put that to mind. Well that's very interesting because I was struck by just the length of this dormancy, so-called dormancy, preparing for this one moth event that happens in the course of a summer. Exactly. That's incredible. Yeah, it's an interesting thing. I just, when you were telling me your story, it just hit, there's a real parallel. That's a really a late bloomer. What do you think about late bloomer? Persistence, right? Get you there. Keep moving ahead, moving ahead. That's what you've got to do, right? Thank you for that. Yeah, okay. I think we're about ready to jump out to a quick break and so Rob Tinslow is here, a Sustainability Consultant and with me Ethan Allen, here on Likeable Science on Think Tech Hawaii and we will be back in one minute. Aloha, I'm Keeley Ikeena and I'm here every other week on Mondays at 2 o'clock p.m. on Think Tech Hawaii's Hawaii Together. In Hawaii Together we talk with some of the most fascinating people in the islands about working together, working together for a better economy, government and society. So I invite you into our conversation every other Monday at 2 p.m. on Think Tech Hawaii Broadcast Network. Join us for Hawaii Together. I'm Keeley Ikeena. Aloha. Do you want to be cool? If so, watch my show on Tuesdays at one called Out of the Comfort Zone. I sang this song to you because I think you either are cool or have the potential to be seriously cool. And I want you to come watch my show where I bring in experts who talk all about easy strategies to be healthier, happier, build better relationships and make your life a success. So come sit with the cool kids at Out of the Comfort Zone on Tuesdays at one. See you there. And you're back here on Likeable Science. I'm your host Ethan Allen here on Think Tech Hawaii. With me today in the Think Tech Studio is Rob Kinslow. Welcome again Rob. We're talking about Rob's very interesting transitions from being a farmer to being a Northrop engineer working on surfaces for high-performance jet engines to shifting over in the sort of epiphanies he's had that helped move him to really helping people develop self-sustainability mindsets and providing the tools for self-sustainability, right? Yeah. And you do this, I gather through we've done it in different ways at different times and currently sort of what's your big focus right now in terms of is it still a climate change stuff for you going out and promoting that? Are you talking more locally now? Yeah, so I stopped talking about the problem so much and talked much more about solutions as I broaden my focus beyond just the specific problematic of climate change because really the problem of climate change is really a problem inside of us and with our the way we see the world and who we are and so much of my work today is with talking directly to people I have a project called Sustainable You in which I teach individuals how to be more sustainable. So what do you mean by more sustainable? So a footprint is like the number one kind of thing you can think about to be sustainable what is your footprint? What does footprint mean? Footprint is a science-based metric for measuring what your energy, your food, your water, your carbon, so you seek to reduce your footprint on the earth. That old adage about take only photos and leave only footprints. You want to leave a small footprint on the earth as possible in terms of your resource use. In terms of your influence or your ability to help others you want to leave a large footprint. So we talk about these when I'm coaching we talk about these various ways of looking at sustainability and how you can be conscious about what you're seeking to do on this planet. Sure you really need to live in your 4,000 foot three car garage house you know. And so one of the things I do is again speak to business leaders. I actually actively seek out business leaders and another thing I do is I speak to entrepreneurs. So I'm a mentor over at Shamanad's Hogan Entrepreneur Program and then I reach out to business leaders through my own self-funding and my own initiative to talk to them about how they can make their companies more sustainable. So because business and I believe business is the largest influence on the planet. And if you look at the aggregate set of behaviors that could be called business. We so why not start with business? Another big network because I'm a systems guy systems engineering another big network is faith groups. So I spend a lot of time talking to faith books faith groups in their language about stewardship about how they can green their churches about what it means to be a good steward of these islands and of land in general. But and it all really comes down to an inside job. Who are you? What do you prefer? And how are you going to get there? Yeah I mean it is interesting for I think it's very true for us here on Hawaii we have a lot of choices to make we can do a lot of things. I was just reading a very depressing article that basically was looking at the multiplicative nature of wave action on top of rising sea levels and and that's and it's impact on Pacific Atoll Islands and basically pointing out that the wave action aspect has not been incorporated in earlier models and what this suggests is that rather than being habitable until around 2100 a lot of these places will become uninhabitable around 2050. Very very sad and very very troubling for these people what do you do if you're a family living there now and bringing up your kids there you know and it's here too I mean it's not just out in the Marshall Islands or out in the Pacific it's here on the North Shore. One thing that is being questioned a lot is the use of hardening of the shoreline and how and I'm not I'm not for hardening the shoreline but I'm not I'm not a great proponent of just saying let nature take its course and just let's retreat from the shoreline there are things we can do to work with the coastline with the wave wind and water action to to protect our people and to protect our lands. Absolutely absolutely they're actually investigating a lot of those in the Marshall Islands although they are still building seawalls yeah but they've got you know huge huge issues they've got nowhere to retreat to basically except probably here you know here in mainland they can and where are people going to retreat what happens to the nature in the conservation zone when the beach starts receding inward at a great rate those people are going to either leave the islands or go upwards right and that's going to leave less room for the species that are already there right no there is a huge so conservation is going to be affected right yeah and you're right I mean businesses drive a lot of this and so somehow the issue has got to be to help businesses see it in their long-term sustainable stable interest to live as sustainably and operate as sustainably as possible right and leave a small footprint and and that is playing out directly again this year here we're heading towards 10 million visitors per year are we going to have to cap the number of beds we have in hawaii for tourists at what level can we be sustainable is infinite growth on a finite planet a still a viable metric for success it's not yeah I live in Waikiki and just a block less than a block from where they they just built two large condos and you just look at this and say did anyone think about impacts I mean this is huge amount of water use huge power use that's getting more cars on the street yeah it's more wear and tear on the roads there's more just people around walking using the beach yeah oftentimes I think the sort of long term and more subtle impacts are not fully considered well because we're law we're rules and regulations are for today they're not for tomorrow and so this is what chip Fletcher and those folks at the office of climate change sustainability and resilience are doing is they're trying to look out into the future look over the horizon and seeing what we need to do now here for them right and that that's not what rules and regulations have done to date right right so they didn't have to comply with anything to any consideration of those ideas yeah it's very very uh but that being said we still have plenty of things we could do that other islands and other lands are doing raising the roadways uh you know we're going to have to get that gravel and all from somewhere but we're going to have to raise our surfaces in order to adjust and adapt right and again we should all be doing much more with conserving water and being sure the water fresh water gets in and recharge our aquifers rather than just pours out as the recent storms so vividly get just pours off the island and ruins the bays well that's another thing I do is I help people design rainwater catchment systems for their homes and so but then we have a big water problem because fresh water floats and as the sea water comes in and inundates the porous rock underneath of us it's going to push the fresh water up and out right and so what and then what where do our aquifers go so these are big problems that I don't think we maybe just be starting to address yeah and and the and the challenge is what are how do how much do we care do we really care I think we do but then how we're going to implement solutions to these actions and problems that we have right and how can we best prepare the youth of today to really deal with what they're going to end up facing because we've sort of we're a little late to the plate here basically right well I think we have a good cohort of youth behind us we don't have enough we need thousands and thousands more teachers and of of sustainability in the state and agents of change but there are hundreds of I'm embedded in the in the non-profit community and there are many many people working on teaching youth so I'm highly encouraged you know that's why I don't talk about problems anymore because problems get me into a state of depression solutions get me into a state of optimism right so I stay focused on the solutions we refer to as asset-based thinking you don't you don't think about the deficits you think about the assets oh yeah another way of looking at yeah all right we've we've now worked with the Pacific Islands a lot of our languages had to change help us realize these people bring tremendous amounts of strengths resources to bear that's right to develop their communities better and we just have to be aware of it and make and it's inside of them it's not exactly something that in their culture it's not like money or homes or anything it's their strength absolutely absolutely so that's one of the one of the great things so if you had five sentences to tell to tell youth or tomorrow what they need to know to be sustainable to lose sustainably what would your advice be to the youngsters of today oh that's uh well I just say figure out who you are who do you care are you interested what's your life trajectory look like think of your life as a trajectory not so much as a series of dots think of it as a continuous curve and figure out who you really are and then from that go what's my preference what kind of future do I want to live in what kind of place do I want to live in how do I want to express myself right as you vividly demonstrated you can you can make those choices you can turn corners and go off in very different directions and you thought you were going right and then how do we get there and I look to nature you look at murmurations they're these huge flocks of starlings they're pods of fish you watch how thousands of fish can make a turn on a dime and that's what we as humans need to learn how to do and so uh but they're all thinking together we're not all thinking together so so we need to all start thinking together and I would urge the the youth of tomorrow to band with people who think like you and work together for social change right excellent and now before we wrap up I'm gonna ask a completely off the wall question oh that wasn't the question no no completely off the wall question if as a superpower you could either fly or become invisible which would you choose and why fly as in fly in the atmosphere right or become visible um in order to do anything I would probably uh become invisible and uh why the reason is because I'm a kind of a um a background guy I I'm a farmer by training and experience I like to plant seeds and planting seeds is invisible mostly right uh farmers are invisible right so I would have to say that I as a farmer planting seeds of sustainability for sustainable leadership that would be my uh choice would be invisibility excellent that's that's uh because we all become invisible at the end of this life right exactly and our we can live on only through our deeds that we've done through our impacts on other people how we've made other people think differently right the seeds we plant are the only things that um take us forward yes indeed indeed so thank you so much for this conversation thank you you know it's it's been a really rich talk here with Rob Kinzlo who has moved from the farm to the cutting-edge military industrial lab to the world of sustainability climate change and resiliency and made that transition look smooth and flawless I assure you thank you so much Rob it's been great having you here I've learned a great deal from you as I leave from well my guess thank you I'm sure you've taught our our viewers much more much more too I appreciate you so come back and join us again on likeable science next week uh until then I'm Ethan Allen host of likeable science we'll see you on Think Tech Hawaii


All right, good afternoon separate traders welcome on back here this Tuesday afternoon as always on Tuesdays our post traders talk edition Here of our afternoon meeting great to see Chuck still with us I'm sure a fan of this cold run up here KOLD Natural gas ETF great to see Lita still here with us loud and clear from them Hopefully good to go across the board and for all of us in social media Facebook live or YouTube welcome on back as well So the down market I always love I always love it down market actually not for like any sort of swinging trader investment side of you know What I do but well it goes to show with what we do with day trading Not every stock is gonna move with the stock market, right? Not every stock is gonna drop off there could be some stocks to go off on their own on their own accord So, you know not as much cold because actually quite frequently when markets are down this natural gas ETF Tends to make a nice move up not all the time not like UVX Y as correlated with that But natural gas ETF colds been on a huge run up at least the last month or so so Nice run up here And I wouldn't mind putting this on our watch list at least to begin just breaking multi weak highs at least multi month highs Just jump back to the daily chart actually while I'm at it I wanted to jump right ahead to the Jasper trade JS PR Of course, that's what I was referring to as far as you know following some moves on their own accord going completely against the grain But you know looking at cold only you could see it's not multi-year highs at least ended up making this big squeeze up Seemingly to this peak back in late June of last year It seems to be where like right around 44 bucks that's still a ways away from 33 25 So I'm not expecting for it to you know Go parabolic once more and run all the way up another 11 points But historically speaking you would assume 50 to be a psychological level coming up as resistance Well, certainly 44 ish will be good to compliment that price. So, you know, at least for right now as a day trade We'll see if this could run higher But Jasper and JS PR right So we talked about this trade earlier in our trader stock workshop for all of a sudden social media Facebook live or YouTube That's our weekly workshop. We conduct inside our live room every Tuesday morning So from a to Z at least up until 12 o'clock Eastern time. We went over this move The disappointing part about this move for as much as it ran up It got halted over and over to the point where it barely offered any one of us like a real chance based off of strategy To enter like if you're entering you you're just trying to throw a dart on the wall and hope it lands You're praying and hoping it continues, you know, like we talked about in trader's talk earlier today No, not every stock is gonna be calla. Not every stock is gonna be Pali or I mean, you know Hey, we'll find one a day perhaps but not every stock is gonna be that, you know, 500 600% gainer So hey, this was running up by the time we finished up traders talk broke higher For as much as it got halted going up It got halted down and that's what made it very scary to try and even think about Trading when it's up that much percentage wise But if you take a look on the daily chart and I'm not out of the doghouse on this trade yet Although it did sell half my share position just a moment ago. I had to take the money and run really but On this trade there were a few historical levels to follow 171 was at first blew right over that. Well next level ahead, you know Historically speaking roughly around that three area 291 and the whole number of three So just a moment ago and even 280 was a bigger volume more meaningful volume based level But 291 we had this level in our trader stock workshop We're talking about this as a point of resistance and right over here. It did top off right there I was expecting for that to be the end of the run at that time Well, hey blast above it So when a stock breaks above resistance and it runs off of it, you know The hope would be to at least initially see support So I was looking for that even beginning heading into 1 o'clock going into the mid-afternoon And I've had my eye on this price since so going into 2 o'clock to 15 I just set a stop limit order to buy if it were to break above it I was watching it the whole time so it's not like I was like away from my desk like the second I got filled I ended up setting my stop order up right under me You got halted right away. So you know like what we talk about Much more often than not at least when you jump into a trade you want to see a big move shortly after That that reaction so if you don't get that reaction right away Not to say it's not going to be worth it, but it's a start of a red flag So once it popped and got halted just a moment ago I had a feel like this would look to continue heading into this meeting So Jasper long story short too long didn't read We'll put this on our watch list here so far for the afternoon in hopes of this making another higher or low and for this to You know really blow the roof off that last Historical what is that right off at three sixty three I put there three seventy three So basically hit there just earlier and then pulled back I do have my stop set on this trade right at ninety one actually so if it stops me outbreak even on the second half Just to be transparent I'm happy with how this trades going because you know one of our new students had brought it up earlier Right now two thirty Eastern time, you know much before that time, you know from like 11 o'clock to right now This is not where we should be gunning to make our days pay So yeah, if you're here if you're at your desk Then you know if there's any stocks that are still moving and then prep up your big levels And then see if the stock can make that move for you So I ended up taking a couple of losses on Jasper off the 291 at first It didn't make for the greatest trade, you know just before but I kept my eye on the level Just kept focused on what we always preach in class, you know when it breaks through the level on the way up So, you know, I ended up taking half my share out right off of three thirty four And with that if it ends up pulling back so be it right? I have my stop set of my entry price if it ends up exploding from this point forward Then we'll move the stop up accordingly All right, so we got cold We got Jasper and that's on a down market actually I did pretty good as a short really briefly I want to see how it's doing right now because coin base was like. Oh my god. What a gift I it normally doesn't work out as smooth, right? You know if it if it always did that work out that smooth then You and I wouldn't be here, right? So, you know, I turned over to coin base as it was already right off the lows here roughly off this 3430 price It was perfect timing just fell right into my lap I'd called it out right away as a short just right in front of us saying hey coin base looks pretty weak Looks like it could be a good short broke down right from that point down to 34 led to another entry from 34 down towards 3350 For mid-afternoon not not terrible right not terrible and if I had missed out on that who cares It's not really the best time the day to be treating. So, you know, I was there It fell on my lap. God bless cookie doesn't always crumble that way So I still left some money on the table for this coin base short, but now at this point looks more flat Who's turning down at this point right now as I'm talking then I'd be more interested in putting it on our list I'll maybe come back to this by the end of it all, you know, keep it on our side list for right now All right got Jasper up on my other screen though. So what we'll do is go from top to bottom I'm gonna keep my other, you know, I on a Jasper see what that's up to as we go through I shouldn't have even clicked on this I forgot about this because when a buyout is you know made official stock does nothing So I actually remember this from the morning, but yeah, we didn't really trade this Now one that we did trade looks pretty crazy right now RSLS by we I actually don't mean me I did not jump in on this one. I wish I could say I you know It was able to jump in from like 10 ran it up to at least 12 12 50 But man this thing ended up just keep on kept on giving and giving ended up running up much like Jasper trade got halted a couple of times a few times over at that and even off the down halts You would expect for the stock to gap down to which it did a little bit But for it to move lower if that to be the end of the ride end of the show and it ended up giving us an even bigger squeeze Up later on so, you know now at this stage this trades all over the map, you know Up and down lower highs higher lows, you know, it just looks like a wedge So I'm not too interested in this right now looks just way too much like a gamble stock now at this point Let me keep it going MSgm if you're able to short this stock, maybe you know, this is normally what happens when a stock gets halted on the way down After a big run up, you know, typically that's a wrap that's game over ATNF, I don't know if this got halted down. This has been a really nice trade today So I ended up following this one from earlier upon the market opening up led to a good squeeze from that point But I took my eyes off it after and when we were doing traders talk It was beginning to make a subtle bounce not like the best, but it was grinding up and heading into like one o'clock blew the roof off of resistance off of 475 if I'm not mistaken. I deleted the line here at the time, but 470 ish. I had as a key level to complement the five We had a low the day back here from December 15th 477 and then the close here right off of 480 So roughly around 477 480 it was No I felt like there was a historical level to follow at that point and really was holding underneath it that and five bucks But blast above both led to another run up as high as close to six Now at this point, it looks like it's making a lower highs, but I'll tell you I mean it's active enough It's active enough for right now You know just if it ends up making a lower low obviously will look to move forward from it move on from it But I'll put this on our main list for right now 18 f still I lag il ag the stock we ended up doing really well on back from early to mid-october You could just see this big spike day like 40 plus million shares, you know is a pop and drop So it's not a swing trade. These are all day trades that were really calling out You know, even if like day over day the stock ran up unless if we told you beforehand We were focused on it as a swing. It's easy to say in hindsight So, you know, if anything what's easy to say is for a stock as like low float low volume normally as il ag is This is the expected type of move pop and drop ended up pulling back down You know, hey if this stock can make a fraction of the type of run it made for us back in mid-october I'd be really happy and it ended up doing a good number today You know ran up pretty nicely had an ugly shake here. So now at this point, I think we'll definitely move forward from it All right now This is the point where I will say there's not a whole lot else that expect for there to be looking good just in a down market You know, you had a few up at the top of the gainers list and there might be like one or two gems here in a moment, but Sift through it here pretty quickly ATTX I mean if the spread and if the order book looked any better I actually would put this on our list right away. It's at the highs But it's just not really trading a whole lot of volume per minute You know, if it ends up making a better pop or more volume joins that order book I'd be more interested, but See if there's anything else looking better like volumize if anything this looks great as a chart If anything, it looks like a fowl stuff legs building to the upside, but let's see if there's anything looking better Chuck on his Billy trade from earlier today Billy just a good sideless stock Really over the last month and a half two months, you know one of the China stocks that have been moving up pretty nicely for us Time Billy xpev Billy probably the sharpest of them an IQ, right? So right now not a whole lot too much happening on Billy But nice pop from the open had a good good little bounce off of like 2675 earlier 2625 I should say but you know, we'll focus on it come tomorrow morning. I'm sure it's a good one To follow going into the market opens Billy All right, so I think that just about wraps up the gainer side the grom trade. This was nasty I was looking for this to hold support off of 195 it ended up breaking under and over it It led to a nice pop But man this thing dumped back down as fast as it popped So that's where I say like hey, you know, if you want to see the stock run It's got to make a pretty strong reaction off the level it did here And I had my feet kicked up to a great degree not literally but you know when it pops up near 20 cents from your level Okay, you're on the right track But when it comes back down as fast this could be easy to say because it already happened But this is experience talking to you folks You got to get out, you know, you can't hope and hold then at that point, right? It was off to such a good break off that 195 again looking for the run up close towards 230 ish 235 And then perhaps up to 250 maybe Well, one one can only dream right one can only hope and with that once I broke back under 195 I went break even and I never really looked back at it. I mean I looked at it But unless it's flipping this into support wasn't gonna work out That was more of a level from the like five or ten minute chart here briefly So just to show you know, it was like holding this pretty nicely is like a little top going into the open So that's where I was looking for that to get flipped into support just never happened All right, so with that a little squeak up here. I see off the lows on the spy S&P ETF Let's just check out what's on the loser side for right now folks seeing if there's anything looking just as good if not better Yeah, TS LL. That's the Tesla bullish ETF. So We'll check out TS LA. Obviously Tesla equity here, you know, pretty expensive You know still to a lot of us most of us myself So I'm not going to be as keen to follow this comparative to the others that we've covered But it's as volatile enough of a stock for us to re-put back on our list So, you know if you want to day trade some calls on it looking for a squeeze up higher into the close You know that that's one idea Or vice versa if you think it's gonna pull back off like 110 and shake back down again heading into the close either or however You want to play it. You don't need to trade the stock. You could trade the option on it too. All right What else we got here PDSB it's shortable. It's down big right within our price range Not like looking too attractive though. I mean it's squeaking back up a little bit You know the order book doesn't look that great. I Don't see much else that stands out here folks. How about that? I mean, I'm sure there is definitely a lot more that's down that illustrious 5% or more that we look for here at this point So if there's anything else looking good, just type it in the chat Neo not looking too great either way G you little spike up on GM there. I mean, I know it's going with the market a little bit But that's a strong little reaction there Going through them all folks going through them all myself right now. I was taking a look the airlines the cruise lines the gaming casino stocks all of them mlco Chinese mlco Chinese gaming company Macau gaming right here mlco This is actually big been a good sideless stock of late to looking at the daily chart the screen in line for a really nice Pop looking at the resistance there that it's been building and today like breaking above You'd want to see a close above that resistance though and hold above at the following day, but I You know what this is low risk to put on our watch list still It's obviously not near the highs just right now from the morning But making a higher low nice little trends liquid enough Michael and Grant talking about PBR That's a crawler. It's a crawler Warrant says RSLS bedspread. Yeah, I mean, that's the type of stock I'm not looking to trade really that RSLS trade Let's see what else we got though just from Benzinga Pro then we'll call it Got AT&F already on our list So hey, we don't need to build up too big of a list folks when this is still looking pretty strong at least as of right now GSPR is still hanging around for me But you know just I'd rather see it break higher soon It did technically make a higher high off this last local peak But really hasn't done much since so if it ends up pulling back to my 291 Then it wouldn't shock me So I took half out at 334 Happy with that Coinbase not a whole lot happening a little move up at the market right now, but that's all there I think that's just about it folks last one here Sorrento SRNE. That's going nowhere last one for real C Kpt I don't know what I'm looking at here folks. I think this is where we're scratching at the bottom of the barrel right now Tim saying TQQQ We talk about this quite frequently folks unless if you have book map It's going to be extremely difficult to apply our trading strategy to an ETF So, you know cold we have on our list because that was at the time breaking highs This thing just pulled back quite a bit with the markets beginning to squeak back up So I might look to scratch the cold Off our list right now as is but you know my stance on ETFs unless if you have level 4 and trade it very well Then, you know, I wouldn't look to follow it So if you do well on the TQQQ daily there Tim, then I'm sure you'll be more inclined to trade it yourself. That's it I think that just about wraps it up folks not a whole lot else out there for me to go through really We have four stocks in our watch list and one of them is Tesla So if you don't tend to trade a more expensive stock then really start on those three the JS PR the ATNF and even that Macau gaming I like that MLCO looks really strong over the last week and a half So that in particular, you know, just keep a small eye around the VWAP area, too You know, it's been trying to tease a pop over the VWAP price right off that 1212 and we'll see if it can make that move All right for all of us on social media Facebook Lover YouTube I appreciate your folks sticking with me each and every day each and every afternoon happy new year Hope everyone enjoyed their you know holiday season and hope everyone has a happy and healthy year coming up Actually for all of us inside our live trading room I sent out an email to a number of us just last week in regards to New Year's resolutions folks Not just in terms of life, but of course here in terms of trading So, you know, of course, we always like to say, you know, make sure that you attend class make sure that you're journaling your trades Make sure that you're studying and not just journaling to journal just you know actually studying from said journal, right? You need to put those extracurriculars in but Even before that we need to have intent with what we're doing like why why why in the hell am I even here right now? What am I looking to do for the next 362 days now before the end of this year comes? So I'd sent an email to a large number of us and if not then you know, just think of it yourself as a trader What am I doing right now for the next 362 363? You know days this year. What am I looking to accomplish? That's where it all begins folks So I just wanted to make that known before we finish up this meeting for all of a sudden social media Facebook Live or YouTube if you wanted to join our live trading room continue the audio broadcast I know that Rich will be on the mic coming up in t-minus eight minutes Make sure that you go right down to the link on the green banner below the stream just to get yourself started But for all of us inside the live trading room right now later Tim Mike and all of us there live right now Best of luck trading heading into the market close. Talk to you all soon