Good good. I'm glad that Roger's exasperated. I'm so tired didn't quite make the broadcast Actually, I'm sorry about that. All right, here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news show Definitely for Thursday December 29th 2016. I'm Tom Merritt alongside almost the entire DTNS crew assembled here. I'm gonna break down the illusion really early on a Sunday morning, honestly So I want to just first start off by saying how impressed I am that all of you made it and thank you Thank you very much. I'll answer it once. I mean That's right, you're on the East Coast So it's a little a little easier for you Well, the one person who hasn't quite made it in here and we think there may be some technical difficulties Scott Johnson Hopefully we'll join us at some point But we're gonna go through on this show and look at the things we predicted last year in our predictions show I love to do this and we've been doing at Veronica And I've been doing it since back in the Buzz out loud days because everyone makes predictions But nobody ever goes back to check and just see and it's such a great perspective setting To see what I thought was going to happen last year and then realized how far or maybe how close I was Sometimes the ones I get right I get right for the wrong reason. Anyway, it's all very interesting So we will start off with you Ms. Veronica Belmont We have Your prediction that the virtual reality industry would fix the motion sickness issue that keeps you out of vr gaming It has gotten better, but it's still a problem So this was this was not true. I did not I did not predict so you're not going to give yourself Credit for this one I I know no, I'm still pretty bearish on this. It's still definitely an issue I've read a bunch of articles recently saying that, you know, people are still having trouble It's still like the playstation better. It has definitely gotten better But I don't know if there's ever going to be a fix for it Uh, all the things people tried to do in second life will start happening in virtual reality in 2016 What did I mean by that exactly flying pieces? I don't know Um, oh What do you guys think what does the panel think do we feel like we're seeing some second life styles things? I think I think that that you can pay out Out the on that in linden dollars Our prediction is and I don't know if people are really using persistent Uh, uh social interaction, which is what second life right persistent and and sort of recreation of existing representations of existing brands that people could interact with in that persistent world and Yeah, I think I think if it's playstation were to do a a home like Scenario with vr. You know in the last month of this year, uh, then maybe but I don't think that's that's going to be the case So I'm going to say wrong on that. Yeah. Yeah, uh, the next one personal Smart software bots will inhabit every platform and piece of software now if we take this literally Then you're not going to get credit for it But because that would be impossible to inhabit every single piece of software But I think what you meant was hey all the major platforms are going to have this people are going to be using it More and more inside of software I'm willing to give this to you especially because it infected you yourself as you started working for a I started working for a bot company. Um, so I think that's you know I think pretty much every chat platform at this point with the exception of maybe what's app Has bots built into it. I think we're going to see it on We're seeing it in messages. Um, I think we're seeing it in a lot of Uh, facebook messenger is huge slack is huge. Um, so I'll give myself this one All right everyone any objections to that from the panel anyone want to fight me? I just feel like can serve and next serve kind of deserve the credit for being og I just want to throw that out just a little honorarium.  Yeah, you're right.    They're still not wearing helmets So be safe out there people in 20 in 2017 The one thing I will say is they have a lot like amazon stopped selling them if they're uncertified There've been standards enforced on them. Uh, so it it has Become a safer arena than it was even if it isn't entirely safe But now we've got those skateboards with the pushy things and the guys riding around those and in the Birkenstocks and the what-nots And i'm not okay with it. Yeah the motorized skateboards Oh, those have been kicking around since the 70s. Well, you can hold on to your ghoulish prediction for that one for the Oh, I will. All right, uh, jenny josephson You had one uh from last year that blank rooms will start to be a feature in some homes with only the monitor And the vr hardware blank walls for sensors. No other furniture It would basically a vr room and your metric for success was there would be a new york times article about it So sadly and I put this failure squarely on the new york times. There has not yet been an article Uh extolling the need for an extra room for vr, but that's not to say it's not happening I did like a little wider search To see if there was any like, you know The thing that the new york times looks, you know, the blogs that then trickles up to the style section And I still haven't seen it. So i'm gonna call myself a little too ahead of the curve Uh, and uh, uh, I bet you it'll there'll be one in a couple years from now Yeah, that's always my problem with predictions is I make them too far in advance Not for the coming year. I make predictions that might come true five years down the road I don't even think this one will be five years though. And like you said, I mean technically it It is starting to be a feature that could be offered to you in your home It just didn't meet our metric for success. So I I'd give you a half credit for this one for sure All right, I'll take it easily No You can't give the super dumb style section easy three like source trend piece Either that happens or that doesn't I'm gonna I'm gonna be a stickler on this one. All right I'm just gonna say that uh, I don't care and I've got to know in my heart that I got half credit for my Roodle under under uh under dts rules. No credit under current gig scoring rules have Patrick major we move to you facebook will launch a vr chat app will probably suck at first and people will not use it at first So So technically no, it didn't happen. We did however get a preview of the facebook Things that they're trying at the oculus connect Conference back in was it september earlier in the year? Yeah in the fall Yeah, and and I think that is what may ultimately become that but it's still very much in the demo stages And it it didn't come out So it didn't launch but then they introduced if you had had but one word different here Yeah, possibly and and the thing is I think if they had just introduced it and it was whatever it would have been fine But it's it was really cool. Um, I think it was something really interesting in in exploring what can be done in vr and especially with the The touch controllers So yeah, it didn't happen But we it might not be too far off any credit for that because I mean facebook totally did announce that they just did launch it Ask the grinch What is it? It's a vr chat app Yeah, do you remember when they showed off the avatar chat using your oculus rift and you could you could have your telepresence There was a zucker. No, I think that's that's legit. That's legit. All right Uh, and he said launch Yeah, I did say launch and the thing is if you just imagine that facebook will do something like this Obviously, they're going to so just predicting they will really is doesn't amount to any kind of prediction So the real prediction is that they would launch it. I feel so I'm burying myself Patrick, don't don't sell yourself short. Just say it was a paper launch Yeah, no, I don't know I'm a lot less passionate about it when it's not involving making fun of the new york time style section Well, and also we want to be nice to patrick on that one because man, did you blow the next one?  Yes, I feel it's really our world the patrick. No, okay fine. I feel it's really the geeks Uh, uh, okay. The way I will put it is it didn't it didn't burst definitely didn't burst But I feel it's still very much into the geeksphere and it's not so far so much farther ahead That it was, um a year ago, you know, it was Yeah, if your prediction had said slack will will rule the world and be a mainstream product that your parents and grandparents know about and are using I would say that definitely would have been wrong. It's definitely still a very much in the tech space kind of thing I think it's there. No. Yeah. I mean I work with I work directly with slack They would agree like they are still like they're trying to move into the enterprise space But it is not a mainstream product yet And I think microsoft teams especially is going to give them a big run for their money because they're already implanted in so many Enterprise offices like throughout the world. Yeah, but but that's the validation, right? The validation is that microsoft had had to had to try to head them off But it's not slack. It's another way of approaching the of solving the same issue. It's definitely doing, you know Influencing the business world in that sense, but it's not slack itself again Take the L and I would I would also just add it's not just tech companies That's one sector of the economy It's media companies like I work for a rather traditional radio station Turned radio network that started in 1967 and they just shifted their entire company over to slack So I kind of think maybe it's off By a by a year or two because it's usually is tech companies media companies and then enterprise solution, right? I'm going to say that there was one that actually predated that which was open source projects and hackers who have been using slack Since the early 90s. I've been slacking on irc.dall.net We've got we've got a slack running on irc.hack5.org. My favorite slack client is probably xchat or maybe m irc Yeah, but those those are yeah, those are irc though. It's they're not like no, I know I'm trying to I Understand but like I mean what I'm saying they're coming from these are bottom-up approaches Like these are like even at media companies slack is there probably because the engineering team or the geeks at the company Like wanted to use it and other people saw how popular it was. It's not coming from the top down yet It's not too late It's not too late for patrick to get into the french election I think with that amazing pivot away from talking about his entirely wrong prediction that the slack bubble would burst Into evaluating our joking reaction. Are you kidding? It will rule the world and then evaluating it I mean well your next your next Prediction there will be a serious instance of non state sponsored cyber terrorism I would argue is is is true with the d-doss against Uh, the against dine and the the takedown of several domains like twitter, etc It right terrorism is the is is is arguable about whether that's what that was But it was definitely a serious instance of non state sponsored attack Yeah, and and the thing about the key word being I mean one of the keywords is terrorism and we don't know that It was specifically terrorism and to be quite frank. We don't even know if it was non state sponsored. Um, so I don't know. I mean it was the morai botnet and it was likely from a hacking group Yes, it's a potential that a state got them to do it. Uh, but it's not necessarily Assuming it feels like it was more of a test for a potential subsequent attack with Because here it just didn't have Significant results beyond the fact that the internet broke for a couple of days, which is big enough But it wasn't like it coordinated with something else. So again, I'm not sure I would give myself this one I'm being am I being too modest. Am I being too after that amazing slack pivot? No No, yeah, yeah Daryl, how would you rule on this one? um I'm gonna I'm gonna save that one for uh for len because that that was a riff off of len's prediction about uh other hacking Okay, we'll we'll we'll we'll evaluate those together the final patrick one is the nintendo nx will launch before the end of 2016 and we'll have zelda as a launch title.  So so so So we went back and listened to the uh episode when they announced finally the switch and I did mention Something like fiscal year 2016 like I specifically said before The end of march 2017 and that was my exact prediction.  So again I feel like I'm half and half. Zelda's gonna come soon and it's gonna double launch like Oh, I just really want to give it to you. Oh, well, then you can okay. It's fine, but I Let's go to darin. Uh darin said we will see the emergence of not quite game Not quite movie entertainment products like the star trek hollow novel Uh, we'll also see the first ever ip lawsuit regarding vr including some kind of dmca take down I Didn't see it. Did you I didn't know anyone And I don't know what a hollow novel-esque experiences outside of maybe the recreation of zork in the You know what I'm I'm actually going to give this to you because I think products like foo And I know of other company other companies that are making not quite game not quite like Media stuff that are like experiences in vr that are on in line with what you're talking about kind of And I'm gonna Yeah, I mean, I will say right now, especially the steam vr space is very very Um Even the games are kind of demo-y and they're they're kind of experiencey in story telling like things So, I mean, I don't know. I'm more inclined to give darin that All right, there you go. Do you get the hollow novel? I mean Close enough. Yeah, that feels like one will look back at in you know, 20 29 and think Really? Spectacle fest will be cancelled But we knew that so I don't know if we can really give you the Did that as a prediction? I always have hopes. Yeah me too. I'm with Veronica on this one I I think you definitely called no vr from apple in 2016 And a lot of people thought apple would come with vr in 2016 So it's not as crazy as it sounds in retrospect Because they can't meet to it They've got to apple it up and I don't know how Patrick doesn't want to give that one to you though No, no, I'm just I'm just did anyone they didn't come out with it I don't know that anyone on this panel did but there were lots of buzz of like, oh apple's going to develop vr And we haven't seen any we we've seen that they have some research in that arena But nothing that would indicate they're coming with a product Finally department of transportation in the faa will accept recommendations of the task force And we'll have a registration exception for 250 grams or 8.8 ounces until there's an incident with an unregistered drone centered around size and thrust Well Half right. You got you got the first you nailed the first half The first half was kind of obvious because the recommendation from the special task force was already submitted to the faa and they just adopted it There hasn't been an incident, which is great. I why was I making morbid uh predictions like Veronica? Because you wanted to be right There's there's always that not like this is a competition whatsoever Although i'm going to go back up in the dock and make this one bold Oh, yes, please do. Please do. You're correct in doing that You did get the uh the star trek holo novel one, right? You just you can't build the spectacle. I'm just gonna start Uh export control will be put in place on quantum encryption I am actually well on the one hand. I wouldn't want such a thing to be done On the other hand, uh, I'm saddened because this means that quantum Computers aren't at a place yet where uh the powers that be feel that they need to be Uh place on export control list, which is we're not even having a discussion about it. That's unfortunate We wish quantum encryption was good enough that we'd be having an argument about whether it should be controlled, right? Right, right. I want the play stations that can't go to iran. You know, I want I want that happening Not that I don't want them to get play stations I mean, I just want to know that we have play stations that are quantum computers Yeah, that would just be too far ahead. You might still be right on this down the line though I hope I hope next year Uh, just a robber young we turn to you. Uh, uber will lose their class action lawsuit Uber's reaction will be to press more state legislators to pass laws in their favor This will become a presidential election campaign promise to fight for the little guy Elements in here. They settled the lawsuit. They didn't lose it. They definitely are lobbying legislatures and and Things about writer rights did become a bit of a campaign issue It was about to actually become in in an alternate rick and morty universe where uh, where this was a normal Presidential election and not the craziest thing anyone's ever seen in their lives Uh, there was a initial kind of battle lines being drawn Like jeb bush was making a big point to take an uber for a campaign event Hillary clinton had uh, some talking points about uh, you know, sticking up Like maybe being critical of the gig economy and stuff like that And then of course 2016 happened and and you know, literally any and everything kind of went out the window So what I thought was kind of a layup Uh, uh, certainly wound up not panning out in terms of the presidential issue You also said we will all be making vr predictions next year meaning this year Because none of these that we made in last year's show would come true But since we gave darin his That sort of took away yours Well, Justin, I know I know well technically. Yeah, I guess his his prediction was not necessarily vr Focus we gave him credit for the for the win because of a vr product, but uh, I think the Well, we'll see when we do the prediction show Whether or not I was right the people will still be making vr predictions, uh, you know into 2017 I think that's a given we will be making vr predictions in 2017. Well, there we go. Like, you know Making predictions next year Why don't you sign off first justin I just need to talk to the rest of the crew I think I think the larger the the larger issue is that this was Thought to be kind of the year that vr broke out and although there have been certainly Promising signs Specifically with playstation vr and all the money that's going into there and the vibe has had a tremendous year I don't think that this might have been the embryonic year that vr Kind of grew up a little bit and got ready to be a mainstream thing, but it certainly is not So if you hadn't argued against half credit earlier, I'd be tempted to give you half credit here Oh, no, I'm I'm I'm fine. I can take my all right Uh, batman versus superman will be considered the worst comic book movie of all time Sub 20 on rotten tomatoes and someone at warner brothers will lose their job It's 28 on rotten tomatoes 27 27 now, I think oh is it down 27 already. Yeah, so, you know, the it's going down the the year is not over yet Yeah, we still got time But you know what I would probably you know had you added You know, it will be considered one of the worst comic book movies of all time I would definitely have agreed it is a terrible movie and I know people are contentious about this It's bad. It's it's a bad movie. There's just nothing redeeming about it Other than maybe you get to see potentially what the justice league looks like but even then you feel kind of like that Wonder Woman is the best part of that movie And she's not even really in it all except, you know for the for the 10 minutes at the end Hey, we got to find out that Wonder Woman has email, which I was very excited to find out Have you been also has She also has some questionable Cognition on the fact that an attachment is not an actual picture Which maybe she's she's just kind of getting getting up to speed on that. So Uh, listen it in hindsight it was the most I've laughed in the theater. Um, so I In 2016 so I personally have very fond memories of going to see Batman vs. Superman, but the head of DC's The the DC movie franchise did wind up switching over and now they have new leadership there So, yeah, technically somebody did get reassigned Uh, because of how bad that movie was All right, let's go to Len Peralta Len you said there's going to be a major cyber attack on a major city next year transportation communication or basic services Now Of the San Francisco transportation system over there was also something over Yeah, there was also something overseas earlier in the year, but it wasn't as as dire as I has I had predicted here Yeah, this was one of them. This was yeah, this was this did not affect the actual transportation portion It affected the ticket buying. Um, so I don't I'm not sure like how how bit picky we want to be about this Well, Darren, you wanted to weigh in on this. So, well, you know in hindsight I maybe was a little bit wrong and right about what I was what I had said in response to uh, Len's prediction was that uh, no I don't think we're going to see anything that's going to be shutting down trains and turning off power Although I think in 2016 we will see cyber attacks that affect like politicians things like leaks of emails And things of that nature that can sway popular opinion And we made you predict that last year really I did actually predict email leaks. Wow You said that in response. Yeah, you're right. It wasn't part of your main predictions, but You should give your credit for it. That's crazy prediction about data breakages Yeah, no, Darren Darren gets uh, Darren gets gets retroactive points for that I think that that one might be like the prediction of the show like you you get a crown or something That is almost too good, Darren. Yeah, how did you know that? Well, you see uh, yeah, there's a team and we collaborate on the slack like thing It's an ETS mission of Tobus, you know what Darren if you could abstain from making predictions for next year, that would be awesome Um, actually in the same vein along the lines of uh, talking about how slack will rule the world I uh mentioned that we'll see the emergence of an encrypted hosted slack alternative and we did it came from spider oak It's called semaphore There you go. Hey, um developed by Darren kitchen. No, I'm just No Lens other predictions, uh, Tony Bennett lady gaga and Justin Bieber will team up to do a netflix special from the moon through space x Sadly did not happen. Yeah, it's not true. Although we did get the white rabbit Uh, uh, project with gran and mohara Kerry Byron and tori belichi. They're they're kind of like my Tony. They're the Tony Bennett lady gaga and Justin Bieber of myth busting Exactly. Yeah Yeah, uh, there's so much there's so much coming out in netflix You know anything could have could have happened that next last year. So it's throwing spaghetti against the wall Uh, a certain artist who works on dts will have multiple games out for steve jackson. Yeah, I think that came true. I hit that it did There seems to be some insider knowledge involved A little bit a little bit unfair, but yes, but that did come true though All right, uh, we're gonna still give scott johnson a little time. Although we're we're not seeing any signs of life from him this morning I'm sure he's fine My predictions I said virtual emojis Will happen and they didn't There's just what does that even mean? I was I was thinking in vr again That there would be like these emojis that that would actually animate and smile and things. No No, nothing, uh, there will be a magic leap development kit by the end of 2016 I think I should get points for having the most wrong prediction I I wrote the ha On the document.  I think like you definitely get paid out on that. Yeah, uh, for sure That was my plan the whole time Uh, and finally some phone company will market their faster service as 5g Even though it's probably carrier aggregation or just lte u That did not happen. However, we did see atnt making a bunch of marketing hay Overlaunching 5g as a test service that intel is helping them test. Do I get anything for that? Well, is it actual 5g? Yeah, it's actual 5g unfortunately Uh, well, there we go. All right in absentia, uh, we will return to scott johnson's predictions And he said one day that artists like himself and len will be able to draw in 3d space walk around their drawings paint with hands Create a virtual palette and canvas to work on hit a button and have it print or be sent to a client Becomes a virtual maker space which is then translated in the real world. I mean len It's not there this year. I think he just shot too far ahead Yeah, and you know what it's interesting to think I think we're probably maybe not a year But maybe about two years ahead of there And and my prediction on the on scott's prediction is that when it does Come out greatest thing Wait, hold on. Wait is it won't be the greatest thing? Is is I think I saw something where people used So it's like at the disney level right now. It was a demo. Yeah, yeah No, there is there is a I can't remember who does it but there is basically a 3d paint Software for vr, which is yeah google. Yeah, yeah Can't remember if it's yes, so need google someone Um, but you can't quite I don't know how it works if you want to put it out in the real world I thought I saw that somebody pushed google paint in vr stuff like to a 3d printer. I thought I saw something like that So maybe scott's closer to being right than we thought there was also there's also the microsoft hollow paint Stuff. Yeah, I think the consumer level of this stuff when it finally hits is going to be underwhelming That's my prediction on that. Yeah, scott had said that it was going to be something, you know coming out of the likes of adobe Oh And I think what you're thinking of justin is If not what microsoft's doing something similar where you can create an object in vr and then print it Uh, but that's different scott was saying you'd be able to like just paint by walking around in a virtual space So, yeah, I mean both. I mean that basically is what google paint is right is is hill brush, right hill brush. Yeah, that's it Interestingly happened in the sense of augmented reality. Just not virtual reality products from Autodesk like 1 2 3d catch and remake allow you to take photos for multiple angles of a real world object Import them into using photogrammetry techniques as a 3d mesh and then export them directly from that program to a 3d printer If he changes one day to the first programs that start to allow He nails this That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, if only we could write the predictions and word them after This is the lesson right make your prediction as as as least specific as possible Make them patents. Yeah Yeah, absolutely a method for drawing elements in virtual in virtual space And then something drawing will happen Scott also said I believe that in the next year facebook will have some sort of search product that encourages people to stay in facebook But also gives you information from the outside world Nothing Yeah, they didn't go that way They're including more and more of the outside world inside facebook, but not search yet And finally he absolutely nailed this and some people were still laughing at him at the end december of last year Mad Max gets an oscar nomination Wait a second. Who was laughing at that? I want the names right now. That was a shoe in at 10 movies Of course, it was gonna get one. Yeah, there were people mocking him though. Who this is no This is his straw man, man Like he he always has this this persecution complex for that movie like he was the only person who ever liked it Oh He really wanted it to be an indie film that no one know about I liked it before everyone else. It was an indie movie originally, but at this point, I don't think he counts as an Oh my god, this is a great movie. It's gonna get an oscar nomination Yeah, you know and he's like no, but for real stop making fun of me All right, uh, finally our vr lawsuit was a consensus prediction By the way, all of us agreed that there would be some sort of lawsuit around virtual reality, whether it was tripping or nausea or this or that, um I can't say for certain there hasn't been some lawsuit out there that that involved vr But we haven't had a big one that So wait a second the zenimax, uh, suing oculus. Does that count? It's not what we were talking about user But maybe wait, wait, wait. Maybe it could be All right You can make that prediction tuesday Yeah, exactly what we did It was not a lawsuit But what we did start to see a little bit of that You know real world element to kind of make its way into vr with that whole sexual harassment Uh a story that kind of blew up So we we are we are starting to see that although i am shocked that somebody hasn't just totally tripped over their five chord and died Because as much as I love that thing a literal death trap Come on, what's up with the morbid? Yeah. Yeah, let's oh no I'm just I'm just surprised because I've definitely fallen over like You know twirling around and shooting people in vr and then realizing that like my entire leg is wrapped around the chord I think this is an instructive moment Where we all see these things and say well somebody's definitely gonna get hurt and sue and it didn't happen It doesn't always happen. I would say well, I think it's too early I think I think the level of ambulance chasing on this is still too early And what you need for being a bringing an element of rational pessimism into this You know, this is the thing it's like oh Early adopters are always willing to to accept Certain penalties including physical ailments just to be the first ones on the block to try it But once it becomes a more widely accepted product I'm sure you'll so you're saying it has less to do with people being more responsible than we imagine and more to do with Adoption rate. Yes. Yeah Have you or someone you love the injured in a vr accident, you know it just and you have the perfect name for your law office contact jury Exactly has a You could you could do your own law hoc commercial that'd be great Or you could join kitchen and howl because we laminate litigate All right. Well, that is it. Thank you again to everybody for listening throughout the year and supporting us and Big thanks to scott johnson for his predictions from last year. We're sorry. He couldn't make it in here Let's go around the table real quick before we get out of here and and head back to our holidays because it's december 29th Then we need to start preparing for new years Darin kitchen working folks find you jk the number 5.org where you can learn how to Exfiltrate documents from your friend's computers. I like to call it an involuntary backup It's important to back up your files folks Learn how to do that back up other people's files H aka 5.org. It's great for systems administration and white hats stuff too. I've got a white hat on I understand Jenny josephson. Where can people find you? so We have a new tell it anyway out after so many months of failing to do so so that's exciting tell it anyway dot com and also If it's december 29th We have just finished doing a bunch of mini preview shows for a new podcast launching in january called make me smart With kairiz doll and mollywood If you want to go check it out do uh, what's in marketplace.org slash make me smart sign up I don't think you'll be terribly disappointed. Go check it out. Justin robber young. What do you got? Everybody can go buy the contender the contender dot us uh until The end of the year. I think we're going to keep the special 1776 pricing on the base deck and You can get it for a little bit cheaper on amazon too. So head on over there. However, you like it We will ship it to you the contender dot us Lemparalta. Thank you for all your drawings all year long Go check it out lemparalta store.com and what else you got to tell people about With only a couple of days left in the new year. Well, jeez if you want to actually hire That certain artist who works on dts who had multiple games and comics out for steve jackson games Just go to lemparalta.com. Check out everything there and you'll go down the rabbit hole and figure out how to get in touch with me So Patrick veja about that yourself You know, I was really glad to wake up so early to be with you all on this Sunday morning like seven in the evening where you are something like that But if you want to have a little bit of fun with gaming or with International politics and news go to frenchspin.com. You'll find a show for itch for each Maybe for itching as well. And and they're both excellent frenchspin.com veronica belbot. How about you? 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I love y'all team keep it clean I appreciate y'all so much Let's do these questions first question came from a patron my god more and he said I don't know why Ravens fans are Freaking out saying we aren't gonna make the playoffs so the Ravens are done We go through this every year with the exception of 2019 the Ravens are literally playing for the playoffs till the last possible game I just accept this from the Ravens plus We I think we play better when we are underdogs Yeah, this is the this is normal see for us as Ravens fans If you've been around for even a little bit if you've been around before 2019 Even a lot of Joe flack old days. This this is what normally happens. Of course, you had the whole Steve Smith I'm not Steve Smith or Steve McNair. Yeah, what they went I think 13 and 3 and then you had 2019 where they went 14 and 2 Anomalies that's not the norm for the Ravens. They usually got a fight and claw and kick their way into the playoffs But they get there So hopefully this year is no different next question came from a boy David and appreciate you being a patron as well He said engraving was good. Hope all is well with you and the family My question is do you think the Ravens should take a flyer on form of Viking Bishard Breeland? Everyone knows all too well how the Ravens feel about practice altercations I Would I know the Ravens had interest in Breeland in the past and I also believe he would have an immediate impact on our secondary My apologies if this has already been asked as I missed the latest episode of question from subs Anyways, like the 20 plus players on the Ravens injury report. I'm out. Yeah, it has been asked But it's it's all good. Um, he yes, I think Raven should like Why not try to be as strong as you possibly can heading into this stretch where it's gonna be tough It's gonna be tough. You got the bingles. You got the Steelers. You got the Rams.  So hey Ravens they it's gonna be tough But it's doable, but yes, he certainly would help a lot next question came from Lynetta She said I ain't great man and appreciate you being a patron to Lynetta. Thank you. She said, how are you in the family doing? We're good. I have a few questions. Do you think that the Ravens giving Tyson Williams the Gus Edwards treatment? When they picked him up, they didn't really use Gus the first couple of years that he was here I hope they keep him. Tyson. It's not bad. He just needs a little bit more practice. I Don't even think it's that I don't even think it's that I just it's something other Then that something happened. I don't know what happened, but something happened to where they just like alright Tyson We're giving you even less than one chance people have messed up way worse than you have and we gave them plenty more chances And we've even seen a spark from you. You have been the most explosive running back on the squad But you know what now we're good. So it's something deeper. I don't know what it is I think something happened behind closed doors, but it's the weirdest thing She also said do you think that the way that our fans are acting now when the Ravens lost or a player messes up How the fans act? Can you imagine if the fans were around and when Kyle Bola was here? I don't think that they would have made it. Hello. Well, I'm sorry for the long questions. I'm just wondering What do you think he said? Thanks for all that you do and I appreciate you know, I appreciate you and yeah, um, I mean it is frustration. It is what it is And I know I hear a lot of Ravens fans say that if y'all frustrated now y'all y'all were here for the Kyle Bola years So, yeah, he was uh, it was rough. I hear a lot of fans always call him Kyle I should have been a Bola Because it with it was rough it was rough and I didn't the Ravens trade up for Kyle Bola But a not every draft pick always works out especially at the quarterback position This question came from Aiden. He said in Graven. I don't know if it's too early to talk about this But what do you think the Ravens will do for the draft? That's how you know like what that's how you know a season is going rough for a team when people start asking about the draft and then It's three weeks left in the season But people have been asking about the draft even before they've been asked about it Like especially when Ravens continued to face injury after injury after injury after injury after injury People been asking about the draft for a while. So this is not even anything new But he said anyway, he said most specifically with the first couple of rounds It is clear that the offensive line still needs some work, especially since McCary and Bozeman are said to be free agents While oh, so with Bozeman, it all depends on what happens with him if they let him walk Which I could see happening and they just be like, all right, Tristan Colón can steal you take over It'd be nice to keep both of them, but I just I don't see the Ravens keeping him right now. I don't But a you never know till you know But if they keep them cool if they don't keep them, okay, they I could see them doing Tristan Colón can steal as far as McCary He I forgot how because he undrafted rookie free agents They have these weird deals and I forget exactly how they work. How many years there for I forget So I'm not sure what his situation is gonna be. He said while on the defensive line We have a lot of older veterans with Brandon Williams likely leaving a free agency We have Justin Mada BK who I think is a very solid young lineman. Yeah, Justin Mada BK He's solid. That's a good way to describe him. Sometimes you can get a little bit quiet But he he has these splash plays. It's like, okay, there he goes And then sometimes you just you don't hear from them too much, but it's all part of the game He said a Broderick Washington though has gotten some reps. I feel he's not quite ready to be Playing starter reps. Ah, that's it. That's an iffy one I don't know because he um, he failed in well when I think that week when Autumn boys were it was early on in the season. I forgot what maybe it was a little the Lions game I think I think it was a Lions game But anyway, he said the secondary needs more debt with Averitt set to hit free agency. Yeah, he's gone Anthony Averitt is gone. He bought a cash in and there's no telling what happened with the Sean Elliott You described that perfectly and finally like last year edge rusher We got away, which is a very which is very Positive of this stingy and aggressive Ravens defense, but who after that we have an agent Justin Houston Who's also gonna be a free agent? Yep, and Tyus Bowser who last I checked. No was in a contract year No, no, he he resigned this all season. So he'll be here Basically, we have all these guys who are contributors leaving because of free agency with not enough draft picks to replace them all Apologize for the mouthful, but I wanted to hear your opinions on this I hope you have a great day and please keep up the great content and Ravens news Appreciate that That's what free agency is for as well. Everything can't be gotten in the draft I mean you would like that and I mean Ravens got like 50 draft picks so they they could get like every position But everything is not gonna be had in the draft. That's why it's important That that's why it's a whole offseason the offseason is not just the draft and it's not just free agency It's everything their trades. There's all that good stuff. So Ravens got a lot of work to do They got a lot of work to do now You you would hope that Ronnie Stanley.  But at the same time I feel like Going into this seat like those are two starters. Those are two starters and they could be your left and your right tackle now you got a hope that they're healthy and With Ronnie Stanley, I especially with Ronnie Stanley. I hope the Ravens I just feel like the Ravens need to go into this offseason as If Ronnie Stanley is not coming back even though they expect him to he'll have had all this time in the rehab But they need to go into this offseason and expect him or not expect him But act like he's not coming back and address Left tackle and they also need a swing tackle to somebody who can play both positions Next question came from a boy Sean Smith He said do you think we are tanking it for this season to acquire better draft picks for the upcoming 2022 draft That's funny because um, somebody said this somebody suggested that the Ravens are doing this when they go for all these two-point conversions That they're like, okay. Well, what's the worst that could happen? We lose. We didn't we didn't convert the two-point conversion So they like like they were almost like playing with house money or something like that Um, but I don't know. I don't know. I would hope not. I would think not especially how they fought this season um, but Yeah, I would hope not That would be so sad. Oh, that would be so sad. I don't think so. I don't think so You never know, but I don't think so because Ravens is not a tanking team even when they were again 5 and 11 They they were fighting they they fought every single game. Um, except for two where they got absolutely destroyed Uh, but they were in literally every single game and they only lost two games by more than one score And that's when they already knew that season was over. Um, but this year their season not over They could possibly get Lamar back even though it seems like I don't know that maybe that That injury could be worse than what they're putting out there to the public Because you yeah, because oh, I don't know man It's just it's so much questions that we still got this late in the season and so much big questions But as far as them tanking I would lean to the side of no But it's a possibility that it's on the side of yes, but I'm hoping that it's more on the side of no Next question came from Ravens flock. He said what's good in graving hope the family is doing good This is less of a question of more of a rant I hope Lamar sees the disrespect from the flock and decides to grant the ungrateful ones their wish and leave I believe Lamar brought so much to the Ravens not just on the field but off of it too Fans free agents wanting to play with him media attention, etc. Now they want to get rid of him So ungrateful also wanted to point out that when Huntley was in a lot of short routes were ran So the ball came out quick not saying Lamar does not hold on to the ball Sometimes what G roll usually calls deep routes with him. Dare I say sabotaging him? See, this is something that I've heard a lot from people too That they feel like the the Ravens are sabotaging Lamar But how would that benefit them at all? How would it benefit them to sabotage Lamar? Well The only way that that would benefit them Would be when it comes to money Because they could be like look Lamar. Look at these numbers. What are you doing out there? While all in the back of their mind. They like We got them Hey, hey, yo EDC. I got you. I got you. I got you. Watch this. Watch this Lamar. Look Those are your statistics. Those are the numbers that you put up. How what's going on, man? What's that about? We can't pay you top tier money. We got to give you something lower That's that's the only way that aside sabotage would make any sense Um, I would hope that they wouldn't be doing that, but uh, no business can be really nasty sometimes Especially in that fail. Anyway, um, he said the flock makes the mistakes of pushing their 30 plus win QB out Oh, he said if the flock makes that mistake, it will haunt them until he retires I don't even know if I even made sense, but I had to let the frustrations out And I think some of these And he put ravens fans are really fans of other teams stirring up the pot. Oh, no, no, no, it's ravens fans, too Trust me. It certainly is whoo, it's This all season don't be crazy, man. Lamar is on the contract next season. Oh, they got the fifth year option So he's on the contract. Um Tyler honey's on the contract too so that they got both of them on the contract Um, we're gonna see how this thing turns out in the long run. We may not find out the answer next year, um, it may be and they won't may not be until next off season um, or unless lamar signs a deal next year so that could happen, but Say for instance a scenario Uh, where lamar jackson is done for the rest of this year if he is Then the raven if they it would be smart of them To try to sign him This off season because they could base it on what have you done for me lately Now, uh, it would be smart of lamar to be like, nope. I'm gonna ride this out I'm gonna play that fifth year option. I'm no, it's not gonna be this year That will be smart on his part, but on their part. I'm sure Uh, if he is done for the year Then I'm sure they they may try to ramp up them contract talks this off season and be like, oh, okay Hey, let's try to take advantage of this bad season that he had And try to get him for cheaper. So we'll see next question came from jt Say what's good in raven jt here baltimore fan from rhoda island Long time listening the first time sitting in the question. Hope all is well But you and the fan appreciated jt. He said I don't really do this But I just had to vent being a fan of the ravens has been tough this year Especially after these last few weeks I just watched a video of the fonti Adams about the of the packers to show screenshots of our db's double and triple covering him And I'm just over here like so like guy our team is depleted So, uh, we're gonna have to adjust and it's not like he had the biggest game He did get his teammate single coverage looks and that's to be expected. Obviously I'm just like bro relax. You didn't even hit 50 yards and y'all had to battle a depleted secondary Just a depleted team overall and struggle. I don't know why that really got to me I just wish we would have won this game. Oh, yeah me too. They had an opportunity But yeah, we even gotta get into that. I hope these last three weeks go Well, I still believe in this team and still believe we can compete. I hope this finds you soon You and the fan be easy. Hashtag team keep it clean. Appreciate it jt. Yeah, man. I um I didn't really think it was a big deal. I know the media was like that This is why you got to have context You got to have context even if the ravens had uh their starters in and they were double team and devante Okay, like this is one of the best if not the best receiver in the league right now What you you want us to be upset that the ravens were doubled in triple team? Of course not This dude isn't he's nice. He is a beast And the ravens ain't want him to go off And he didn't he got a touchdown, but he had like I think 44 y'all or something like that So, I mean like I said, this is why you got to have context because a lot I saw a lot of media being like Oh, man. Yeah, look at the vante. He circled the plays with the ravens with double triple team and him Okay, cool. But do you know who was out there for the ravens? Like Do you know what second down we had left that was playing for the ravens? It was rough, man. So no It wasn't a big deal. Next question came from a guy job. Oh, he said which player are you looking most to see healthy next year? Uh any player that got a ravens jersey on because literally this this has been like bad Before I know uh one of my guys in the comment section he would ask hold and this was early on in the season He was like, oh man, does this remind you of 2015? Because the ravens are winning and the ravens still have their quarterback But then now like at this point in season, it's like, oh, yeah, like we can keep losing everybody We even lost the quarterback temporarily. So they say we'll see temporarily though. So they say I don't know but um Like we even lost the quarterback, but they've been competing still but and they still in the thick of things So it is very similar to 2015 but very different at all at the same time Obviously similar with the injuries losing everybody But ravens are in a fight for a playoff spot and that is something in 2015 that they were absolutely not He said, I know we want to we want everybody back in full strength But which one player are you ready to see next year? Um, I would say lemar I'll say lemar because throughout like I'll say 90% of this year He has not been healthy because lemar has not been running the same that he he hasn't been running the same way He has he's been looking a lot slower a little bit more lethargic and whatnot His cuts haven't been the same. He's just he's not the same lemar that he was before Um, he said also who you got going and winning the super bowl I got the packers winning it all and beating the chiefs or the bills. Oh man. I don't even know I really don't even know. Um I have no clue if I had to pick somebody right now, uh, I would probably say like I was about to say I was about to say packers over bucks, but that's both NFC. Um um I will probably say Packers especially because they getting ready to get uh, jaya alex hand it back to getting ready to get sardaria smithberg um, I will say packers and chiefs been on a roll They've been a little shaky, but anything pop like I have see I feel like it's just such a toss up NFC is a much less of a toss up I mean, obviously anything could happen any given sunday or saturday or wins any day, but um I feel like in the on the NFC side in a super bowl either packers or bucks uh, then the afc side either chiefs uh, or bills Steelers could go on the run um I mean, I would hope ravens, but I mean that that's looking a little bleak right now They they they still trying to get into playoffs Um, but still is all too, but uh I don't even know man God, I just I got no clue next question came from my boy. Dave disco.  I appreciate it I'm a huge advocate of planning for the future. So i'm always looking ahead to next season and beyond I also believe that the running back attack is critical to the raven success after watching what has happened To the dynamic run talent of seiquan barkley as acl Would you agree? Excuse me. Would you agree that knee injuries can take years off of a running backs? Career wow, well this gas comes from I don't know. Um Well, anyway, he said would you agree that knee injuries can take years off of a running backs career? you could say that but They play a very demanding position, especially if a team runs runs runs runs runs um, and But then you could be like a agent peterson But he's like an anomaly. But anyway, uh, he said, um, I'm not a doctor But I personally believe that one year is not enough time to recover from a torn acl for a football player Uh, specifically a running back. Maybe marcus peters can prove otherwise I told all my giants fans friends that they were bringing barkley back too soon And what do you know? He was back on the sideline with more injuries and ankle and a knee Are you have the same mindset that the costa should not put all his eggs into the baskets of gusts? It was in jk dobbins Would you agree that rushing running backs back from injuries can often lead to re-entry and even new injuries like Hamstring or ankle injuries due to overcompensating and likely decreased leg strength. Um, I'm I don't think you should rush anybody back from an injury Not just running backs, but uh, and this is something that we talked about a lot this year Like with a running Stanley, uh, with a derrick wolf with a nick boil With a nick boil rave was like, all right, nick boil activated. He's back.  Where's nick boil go? Oh, uh, guys. Sorry. He's injured But so yeah, but yeah, certainly we're running backs too Uh, he said, have you seen the running back kevin harris out of uh, sc university? No, I haven't because I don't I don't be watching college like that He's not ranked among the top five college running backs But I haven't believed that he is a natural born raven This running back has a very very similar height weight and speed of jonathan teller whom we could have easily drafted before Dobbins we could have had them both Now that would have been I don't remember what Ground he was drafted in but we got to think about the situation though We already had a mark ingram. We already had a gust there was we had already had a jk dobms They're gonna draft another running back I and we had a justice hill too So what they they're gonna have a five running backs No, that that just it wouldn't have made sense All right, so in order for the ravens to dominate the nfl the run game must be exceptional and stout Uh, Lamar needs a stutter runner who has not suffered injury gusts and jk will come back But let them fully recover let them regain their football strength and mentality Do we want them to end up like say say kwan barkley? Yes, we would desperately need a revamped and younger offensive line But wouldn't you agree that green bay hasn't been without an elite quarterback? Because they draft quarterbacks even when they don't have a pressing need Uh, they strengthen their strengths green bay once had brett farve and rogers and kurt warner at the same time Shouldn't we take that same approach with our running backs as long as lamar snoop our quarterbacks Lamar lead our running backs are safer and less often injured our quarterback Yeah, having a good running back doesn't alleviate a lot of pressure off of the quarterback and um Chemistry is huge too because we saw like I really thought that okay. We picked up the vante freeman lavian baile Latavius murray. Um, I feel like I'm missing somebody But I'm like we picked up those running backs. All right, cool Oh, we'll be straight as long as Lamar back there. We'll be straight in the run game. Nope wrong Uh, running backs. They definitely do still matter, especially when it comes to the ravens Um, Lamar didn't have chemistry with those guys. They don't do the rpo's nearly as much Um, it's just it's different the run game is much different And then and it's gotten better over the period of the season, but it's still not the same as it used to be uh, so it would just um It would help a lot if uh, if we had those guys back But yeah, ravens got to be smart about it now Both of them were gone before the season even started so that helps with their recovery time Um, and then just getting back in the groove of things But this is why I think the vante freeman. I think they're gonna keep him around at least for the preseason Um, and I don't I don't think that gust edwards or jk dobbers are going to see one snap In the preseason I think hardball is not going to take that risk. I don't think he I think he's going to be like nope I i'm not going through this again And I think that he and the ravens, they're going to be scarred from this season Even though something to think about Uh, the broncos their head coach He said that the ravens with uh player safety that they that's not their thing They don't care about player safety It's like man, he just hating because ravens ran for all these yards on I said they that ravens broke the record for 100 rushing yards and broncos ain't stopping. Yeah, ravens did it on the very last play Oh, man, you're just talking and as a matter of fact, he was somebody that in the fourth quarter of a game last year against I think the dolphins he was still throwing the ball, but the game the game was already over So I'm like talking about player safety. What? But he was somebody that used to work for the ravens. He's somebody that used to work on the hardball um, and if we recall We were don't it was it used to be like every year if y'all remember it used to be like every year where hardball would get fined For not following the rules for practice. It used to be like every year He would get fine. They were fine like a hundred thousand Have a much to have many hundred thousands of dollars that he would get fined so Vic or Vic Fangio, I think He was just trying to let us know. He's just trying to give us a nice little reminder like, uh This this is who he is. This is who this guy. Hey Player sake. No So that's something to think about too When it comes to these injuries and whatnot when it comes to the player's safety It's just something to think about but anyway He said his final statement in reference to the question that I sent my main point is that I believe putting 100% faith In the return to form of jk and gusts could prove to be very unwise with the exception of his special teams play Just as he wasn't bringing uh in the return on investment At least not enough to hope that when healthy he could carry the load Strengthen your strengths like the packers like Ozzy did with the ravens defense for years Yeah, I understand what you mean Uh, because you you want these guys to come back and you want these guys I feel like I got an eyelash in my eye, but you want these guys to be 100 when they come back um and Both of them. Yeah, too. Both acl injuries here is two top running backs And that would be a lot to expect the eye y'all come back and be who you were once before right away That'd be a lot to ask Especially if they don't play in the preseason, which they're not um, but That's what that's why I really do think that they that they bring them back to vante Freeman to try to Like help them Come back and not put everything on them not put as much pressure On them and unless they bring in somebody else too Next question or comment had to take a little break because pookie decided to eat something that some food that dropped And she ended up throwing up and so that was not team keep it clean anyway She is fine Uh came from shadow badger cat. He said I have a feeling we are either going to blow the bingles out or have a Really disappointing game. I mean that really that covers everything that could possibly happen Uh, like if the ravens get blown out, it would be very disappointing if the ravens lost a very close one It would be very disappointing and if the ravens blew out the bingles, then okay, they blow them out So I feel like that covers like three out of four things that happen because the fourth would be if the ravens win A close game next question came from the andrew saying engraving. What's up? I got a couple of questions today Do you think project pat holds this offense back? Everyone is talking about how good the offense is without them all But no one is talking about how good it looks without project pat The run game has also looked better with that being said, what are the chances the ravens release trade or put him back on a D line next season. Well, um, he is a free agent. He is in the last year of his deal so Gonna be an interesting offseason this this ravens offseason is just gonna It's gonna be filled with a lot because we got a lot of questions on some key guys That could or could not Be back with the ravens. Um, and the offense. Yeah, I haven't heard many people talking about that I think with the with patrick card out Nick boy was there and ben cleveland was there too, then But on with patrick card out, uh, the offense was able to Have receivers and more and do less of the stuff that involved him That's not a shot at patrick card at all, but it more so praise for the ravens being like, okay Whoa, so we we can we can run some offense would actually wide receivers running wide receiver routes not patrick car running wide receiver So just every time we see it. It's like, oh We love project pat But we also love when ravens use their wide receivers as wide receivers and not their full back As a wide receiver Anyway, um last one not a question just a couple of thoughts sharp looked really good at right tackle He certainly did but now he's on covet list. So yep Um, if lemar could help out the offensive line how huntley did he could really be dangerous true I saw a couple of plays with the tackle. It's about to get beat around the edge But huntley stepped up a little was showed I was slowed down the edge rusher And allowed our tackle to get his hands on him then huntley stepped back That little move gave him a couple more seconds to find someone open downfield It also kept everything in front of him and he didn't get flush out of the pocket like lemar does Yeah, yeah for sure. Um Tyler huntley, I'm sure he's taken plenty of tips from lemar jackson And now lemar jackson can do the same thing in reverse take some tips from tyler huntley They can help each other out. They can have the offensive line out They can help the offense out and boom everybody's happy speaking of tyler huntley and gregg roman Next question came from seed the sloth from ice age. He said hey and graven. Hope the family is doing well This is my first question of subs. So here it goes Has snow proved himself to be traded to a team or do they start using him in special packages Or is that in the vault also despite all the injuries this year? I think gregg roman is going not just because of this year. I just think his lack of adjustment And I wonder how much influence keith keith moin and t williams had If they if he if they proved enough to earn the opportunity. Oh to be offensive coordinator, you're saying um We won't know till we know as far as snoop. Yeah, I think he's done He's shown enough to prove that he could be traded Somebody could take a chance on him because one he's on a cheap deal He's on an und not even a rookie but an undrafted rookie free agent deal um And we've seen guys show less and get traded like, um, jimmy garoppolo Jimmy jimmy garoppolo He played in like I think well it was like three or four games Then he got traded for like a second round pick something like that. So it snooped boy like Yeah Yeah, he he's shown enough. Um, but ravens could also keep him too And they could have that guy that they know is ready and willing to come in Just in case something happened with lemaw um, and as far as gregg roman Man, I don't even know man. I don't even know because I know hardball ain't gonna fire gregg roman.  Oh, no, I don't want it and then okay, boom He's out next question came from my guy benjamin. He said ain't graven What do you think about signing free agent safety quandary digs this offseason? Uh, he is having another standout year with the seahawks and I don't think that they are gonna Pay him this offseason. He's also making plays on the ball, which is something that we've been lacking interested to hear your thoughts I don't think they're gonna go in a different direction. Uh as safety, uh other than um Uh, I can't brandon stevens.  He's been doing all right Um, but I don't think they're gonna come up come up off of him at the free safety position Uh, so I think they're gonna be locked in to him and I don't think he's going anywhere So I don't think that uh quandary digs would be coming to the ravens Ex question came from a boy terrell b He said he believed that if the play calling and predictable play calling does not change Will edc and ollie decided to go with t williams to keith moin uh to take over uh the helm and get the chance to be offensive coordinators uh, and I mean, um I don't know man I uh I don't know. I know ravens. They do like to promote from within They really do like that. Um, so maybe But for some reason, I just I just feel like they're gonna get overlooked if the opportunity ends up coming up I just feel like they'll get overlooked I'm I'm we'll see though. But that's just my gut. Anyway, he says, well, and that's a big gut too, by the way One more we love we love the role of the dice for going for it on fourth But what's your thoughts on going forward after marching downfield after eating up clock and having nothing to show for Yeah, are you talking about the first drive at a packers gang? Um, I thought that they should have kicked the field goal But I understood why they went for it on fourth because they felt like all right, we've been moving We've been moving the ball. Let's get a touchdown instead of a field goal And and I could I could understand that so I wasn't the maddest that they went for that second fourth down on that first drive Like I said, I thought they should have taken a field goal. So you have something Uh, but what I was more so upset at Was not even that they went for it on fourth but what they went for it with And I feel like we're not talking about that as much. I hear everybody talk about oh, yeah They should have took the field goal, which is right, but The plate you you call a cubie draw A cubie draw and it's like with the cubie draw. They save that for the worst time They say they bring that out at the worst times every time Every time I feel like they need to just delete that out of the playbook man. Get rid of it Because whenever they have lamar do it whenever they have tyler huntley do it. It just always is so bad It's so bad And that's what you do on fourth and and goal With them Come on, man He said that it's always I hope All is well with you and the family in these crazy times. Have a go. Appreciate you man. Shout out to you and your pops too, man Next question came from my god, terry. He said, what's up in graven? Hope you in the family doing good Just wanted to ask you do you think that the raven should get rid of greg roman now during the season or off season? I mean It's three games left I feel like I feel like they just just ride it out like you could get rid of them now, but Just ride it out Ride it out, but have um Have somebody else step in for those fourth down plays Because again, they like you saw what they did against the packers. There was a great They called a great offensive game for the nominal offensive game except for them Except for the fourth down and except for the critical plays the crucial plays except for that The two-point conversion terrible call and and the fourth down on the first draft the second fourth down on the first draft Well, it was all or nothing. The all or nothing plays have somebody else call those But like just just ride it out with him at this point He said in my opinion I say now the reason out why I said that is because I feel as though we haven't even seen the best of hollywood Lamar and rashaar babing and honestly I think we can utilize davante freeman more in the passing game for you to be an offensive coordinator and not use Your first round pick rashaar babing that much besides the browns game is a little sketchy I feel as though Keith Williams the passing game specialist would do a good job But Lamar and his weapons and to put Lamar and his weapons in the best place to succeed Which nothing but the best to you and trust appreciated terry um I just I mean I I feel like you you could do that now, but I feel like at this point Like I said, you might as well just ride it's three games left and um It's three games left So you hope that things get better, but if not, I mean the offseason is so close. Oh, that's so sad Wow after I'm recording this on saturday, by the way saturday december 25th after tomorrow It's only going to be two games left in the regular season That is so sad man. Next question came from my guy ejon. He said, what's up flocking in graven? Hope all is well My question is what do you think the ravens offensive identity is they don't have one? One year we're running it confidently breaking and setting russian reggers on everybody with a three titan set Hurst boiling andrew now we have three wire receivers bateman hollywood and walkins to throw to and ironically Enough lamar gets injured on the passing play while his interceptions go up Oh, yeah, ravens don't have an identity. They don't know who they are. They haven't known who they are all year he said our greg roman and Hardball smart enough to change up the scheme week to week like bill bellichick Again, what is the offense's identity? They just don't they don't have one. They don't have one They're not the passing team.  Let's have some down to the wire games Um, but they they don't have any one thing that they specialize that on offense except uh heart attacks And the last question for the week On this episode a question from subs came from my boy droid 209 He said how's it going graven hope all is well and everyone is healthy So I understand what you were saying when you answered my question I was just trying to add some positivity, but I can see how my statement can be misleading We can't go for moral victories when at the end of the day it's all about the chip So i'll be man enough to say my take is wrong. My question is how would you grade every position? Including coaches and what needs to be changed? Thanks again First what needs to be changed, um I When it comes to I know everybody like offensive court need offensive court need offensive coordinator, but It is I feel like the if hop up higher somebody I feel like it's gonna be end up being the same stuff What what I feel like the the biggest change should be Uh, it should be that the ravens They do what's best For the ravens and they don't do what's best For Individual coaches and what I mean when I say that um I feel like okay, they could bring on an offensive coordinator, but Don't be threatened if it's somebody that is trying to be a head coach Or don't be threatened if it's somebody that could possibly take over as a ravens head coach I I feel like they bring in guys that are decent But guys that are are decent enough, but that don't necessarily have the brightest future And and and as far as coordinators and and stuff like that like greg roman He's right now. Has he been a bad offensive coordinator for the ravens overall? No No, he's he's obviously been part of the good. He's been part of some bad too But there's been a lot of good with greg roman and we appreciate that so much He's been a great introductory coach to offensive coordinator to lamar and ravens offense bunch of young guys and they he was His running game is just amazing amazing passing game But amazing very efficient offensive coordinator But it's it's time to take it to another level, but greg roman been around for a while Even worked with the ravens back in I think 2007 as an offensive line coach. I want to say but anyway Greg roman offensive coordinator buffalo greg roman offensive coordinator was saying friend greg roman offensive coordinator with the ravens He ever been a head coach He been a head coach before That's he got an offer to be a head coach Well, how come greg roman's never been a head coach before it's something that you just you think about even after coaching the the 49ers to a super bowl, which they lost to the ravens by the way Well, how come he how come he didn't what he was able to do with with tyron taylor with with collin cappernick with lamar jack Why is he never been a head coach? And this is what I mean when I say I feel like they they bring in guys that are good enough but that are almost peaked peaked in their careers As caught in now with gary kubiak It just so happened to work out for him with uh, what's the name with john elway because they friends They got big trust for each other And he wasn't even ever expecting to be a head coach again, but he and he said like he was a head coach for the texans Then that went haywire And then he's like no, no, I'm gonna just be offensive coordinator. That's that's it. That's all I want Oh, I'll be back next year as offensive coordinator for the ravens but His boy he he was like a come through from a bronco with me We just we just got rid of this dude. We got whipped and so we just got rid of this dude Um, I forget his name But come through man come through gary boom We got a gary. We got the team ready for you and everything you can bring over a couple people What not bring in a couple people from your staff whatever but we we we got it pretty much covered as far as personnel Whatever yeah, we go through the draft and all that free agency. Dada, but we pretty much got we got the core guys So you'll be straight boom um, but like who else Jim Caldwell, uh, because he took over after they fired cam camman cam camman was never A head coach. Anyway, he's offensive coordinator a couple places, but All right, it worked out for Jim Caldwell. So shout out to him. Um Jim Oh, no, that was a qb coach though. I'm going way back. Um, because when flacco had a qb coach I think was jim mora not jim mora. Oh, who's the guy he used to coach For the washington football team. Oh, I cannot think of his name not jim mora Oh, he was a ravens quarterback coach Oh, but marty morning wake marty morning wake, um He he was a head coach. I believe for the jets, but that just they flunked out So he's peaked already. But anyway, my point is they and we can go through more offensive coordinators, but They uh mark tressman. He was a head coach for the bears, but that went terribly wrong. He peaked already They they they they bring in guys that have peaked already They don't bring in guys that are on the come up They bring in guys that have peaked already and are not like getting ready to elevate to another level So that's why I feel like the ravens should do us best not for individual coaches not to all right This guy peaked already. All right, we could bring him in no do us best for the team so you can maximize this team That's what I feel like they should do in my opinion And but I do I feel like they'll do that. No, I don't I don't Now he said grade the coaches. Did you say players too? I think he might have said something crazy like grade the coaches and the players like i'm a teacher or something Uh, he said, how would you grade every position including coaches? Okay? um Quarterbacks this year Lamar hunt. Hmm. I give them a c Probably yeah, probably like a c-plus.  You can you can look at the numbers and be like, oh, yeah gross Uh, also look at the context uh with who his offensive coordinator is who who he is what he's done um All the players that we have left over all the players that we lost uh his play um his decision making Uh, what he's been able to do uh what he hasn't done Then you look at Tyler Huntley what he's been able to do when he stepped in So overall, yeah, I say like c-plus b-minus offensive line I would say uh Maybe like a d-plus And now this is where I feel like coaching Um, it's big right here too. Uh, but maybe they feel like hey, you know what? Maybe we don't have our best five out there I don't know. Um, it's been rough. But yeah, I'll say probably like a d-plus c-minus wide receivers um, I feel like the wide receivers have been better this year uh So I give them probably like a uh Maybe like a b-minus For for their opportunity give because this ain't like Ravens since Ravens don't have an identity Sometimes they'll be past happy. Sometimes they run a little bit more and they just like We don't know who they are. So the receivers. I don't think the receivers even know who they are So and this sounds really sad and it kind of is but tight ends um a b-plus Maybe a minus and and what that's not b b-plus mark angeles a he gets an a but um Nick Boyle, they rushed him back so He hasn't been himself He hasn't really been able to contribute much. You know, it's three games left, but they suffer right here right now Josh Oliver, they got him for cheap. Um Very they traded a conditional pick for him. He didn't make the team So Ravens end up having to give up a seventh round pick or a sixth round pick one of them two to the Jaguars for him Uh, but it just hasn't contributed like Harley at all. Um So they haven't really like used him like that uh Yeah, eric thompson he's been around, um So and I they were smart to not cut him because they they knew nick Boyle wasn't back all the way Because I remember saying that oh, yeah, they're gonna keep eric thompson initially for the roster and put nick Boyle on injured reserve and um And when he comes back then they probably cut eric thompson But they brought nick Boyle back and they said no eric thompson. You ain't going nowhere They knew nick Boyle wasn't healthy rushed him back. Then he got hurt again. Anyway, um, so yeah tight ends.  That's really crazy Now when you talk about pass rush, ooh yikes, uh, that's a little different, but I think that's more scheme than anything uh linebackers, I give them a uh I get him a b Patrick queen started off rough, but ravens they call for reinforcements again with josh bines They said a boy's up big head and he came through again and saved the day just like he did two years ago in 2019 came through Save the day for the ravens. Um, so I give them a b probably a b minus um, because they had they had to call for help again and I'd say they're not allowed to call for help but Uh, they just they I it wasn't going to be getting done if they didn't get help. Um Um outside linebackers bowser daffy away Justin houston uh I give them probably like a b and again Scheme is so important man scheme is so important because They're not in a scheme where they're gonna produce like that They're not they are not going to put up these sexy sack numbers like that. They're not this scheme is not built for sack numbers I think that's why wink said it. Hey sacks are overrated because he knows his scheme is not built for sacks Just doesn't happen like that But anyway, so I give him a b Cornerbacks. Oh, how can I even grade them because everybody's going everybody's going Everybody is going um, so I'll probably say like a d secondary Uh, probably like a d. Yeah Uh special teams kicker jesson tucker. Whenever he does get used He gets an a sam cook. Uh, he gets an a um Uh, yeah, I guess that's it, right? I feel like I'm missing something. Yeah, I guess that's that Shout out to graven


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