doesn't apply to work games some some have an end some games have an end guy i love maybe i love it when you your argument just falls apart it is like everybody on earth is male except for those who are female you're like what except for those or anything else what this doesn't make any sense why are you even making the statement in the first place it's like well i don't know there are some games that end like i don't know the last of us but that's about it there's not any of this what is what is he actually gonna say this is just some he's wanted and can successfully close the game for good now of course this doesn't apply to all games some like the last of us this doesn't apply to oh wait it doesn't build toward a conclusion but even in a game like skyrim which does have a narrative end people get lost in the limitless expanses so your argument means nothing oh yeah so you have a terrible argument and you're explaining us that your argument's terrible but some games end some games never end some games have endings but you can continue it's like congratulations you've played you've understood games you may as well have just said sometimes there are games you can play like a 12 year old that games don't have ends and they're like but imagine Alan sat there playing skyrim just going but but this is all the middle takes you back to the main menu and he's like well it's not over i can still hit play well yeah the credits haven't they haven't finished rolling so it's still the middle Alan just get the fuck out of the house no i'm stuck here as an audience member you know i'm not going slow me have her slowly pulls back and Alan's just in the estate insane asylum like it's the middle it's just the middle it's all middle he thought he was creating plays but he was just scribbling on napkins in the cafeteria at some insane asylum of middle side quests another way to view this phenomenon is there is a finite amount of i was going to say yeah well you would by definition they don't randomly generate uh quests in skyrim if you said fall out four then yeah because there's always bullshit stuff you need to go and do that that just indefinitely uh repeats yeah eventually generates a quest for you at x location yeah yeah but skyrim is finite i mean as long as enemies respawn i mean even if there were no enemies or quests just walking around it's just so wrong he's like he's talking about random genres of video games or trying to relate it to game of thrones when you have plundered a cave or a building or whatever it will show up on the map that you have done it it's finished it's empty you've taken the treasure so the so the middle you're highlighting there's a middle there yeah yeah so he's gonna knock out the old psychology look here's our scientific data even though psychology itself is a soft science but whatever uh i want to see what he says because i just researched this person's name this video is making me a soft science people get lost in the endless expanses of middle side quests another way to view this phenomenon is taking a cue from psychology in a recent wired article writer j david bolter argues that the phenomenon consumers experience when you know alan and his buddy bolter has great j david bolter j and david d d two names jesus everyone has two names these days for attainment how the video game aesthetic flows into all of culture ah get out your bagels and that's that's pretentious get out your bagels that's right yeah out on some bagels tonight j david bolter argues that influence other things congratulations video games are so widespread that they have an influence on culture like all right has this guy heard of things like religion that's gonna be a video that's all just middle though how the religion aesthetic flows into all of culture that the phenomenon consumers experience when engaging with modern entertainment is akin to psychologist me hi cheek sent me highs was that real wait what hi chi what was his name i'm sorry let's hear that again i'm sorry he doesn't look like a me hi if you get run with moderates here is akin to psychologist me hi cheek sent me highs concept of me hi cheek said me hi me hi one more time one cheek sent me hi he looks like the stock image guy but harold me hi me sent me hi he was just like really smashed and they asked him what his name was me hi me hi me said me hi when engaging with modern entertainment is akin to psychologist me hi cheek sent me highs me hi cheek said me hi is cheek the season better me hi me hi cheek sent me hi me hi cheek sent me hi me hi cheek sent me hi me hi cheek sent me hi me hi cheek sent me hi what would you like to name your beautiful young boy oh we've agreed that his name will be me hi like me hi cheek sent me hi i just like the idea that he's trying to explain it's like i am high my cheek it set me hi okay i don't know how to evolve that this is a thing right if i actually said on the spot he was just trying to make up a fake name because he didn't want to tell anyone who it was so they don't explain the article they just go into explain another psychologist theory this is the third guy now can you tell us why one of these might be correct or not can you like well for one jay dove balter released that article because he's got a book out so of course he's got some uh vested interest in getting his name out there and from what i can tell from my research he is other potentials titles the digital plenitude and the end of art oh fucking hell he sounds like someone i definitely want to listen to for another second experience when engaging with modern entertainment is akin to psychologist me hi cheeks and your mom's concept of he must have felt silly reading about it feels bad bad this is the thing before he was like wow make in front of a name that's not typically like you're west and i'd be like there are plenty of funny western names hilarious names there are funny western names yeah i can we get his name has anyone mentioned to get his name me hi cheeks i smell that me hi okay there was a guy me hi sent me hi yes there's a guy that went to my uh college who was called uh ugi abhi i've actually got it hey i actually found him i actually typed in that oh oh google didn't confuse that with the other me hi cheeks sent me hi uh it gave me that and i forgot his wikipedia there we go oh god that's not a name that's just great that's just they're posting it in chat word and just started walking around they posted it in chat do you see that like how it's spelt me hi cheeks and me hi that's what i typed in that is not actually typed it phonetically and actually picked it up well done google well done google yeah hallie it's probably because everyone else who heard that name did the exact same thing you did so google is intimately familiar his inbox is going to be filled isn't it i'm getting all these emails from people tell me i've got a stupid name what's going on he doesn't have you sound like he's sincerely efat listener 749 he's hungarian which is also where hard she's hungarian fuck it's from me uh and yes he's a hungarian american psychologist he's recognized named the psychological concept of flow a highly focused mental state conduct conducive to productivity what the fuck has that got to do with super mario in place you're trying to figure out why he's named to that right fucking hell his whole life his whole life which is a middle by the way this is a big his a mission to find out why he was named this me hi cheeks and me hi oh my but i it's hard to unravel where the what the main fucking point of any of this is it's an absolute mess a shit show of ideas of things not fitting we've gone from amphitheaters to people wearing suits at the cinema to video games but now psychologists who who talk about flow which is when your mind goes into that state of creativity and productivity but i call that just that's just being in the zone to mess to mess that's called focus that's called concentrating we have a word no no it's called flow that is quicker to say entertainment is akin to psychologist me hi he sent me hi's concept of flow bolter citing chic sent me hi defines flow as a state in which people are so involved in an activity that nothing else seems to matter oh so like 80 hd or something alcoholism yeah it's so enjoyable that people will do it for the sheer sake of doing it yeah that's very familiar concept i mean the human condition isn't it has many of those sorts of things i i think his greater point is we like things that give us highs and lows dragging on because we get really focused and into it except if that's not always the case um but people play call of duty but then they also like the sims but the sims has no end but people like the middles except for the times when they don't and then you never ends because war war never changes this is tell you just trying to find a roundabout way of explaining how you never could have ended game of thrones in a satisfying way and this is all bullshit oh wait this is all bullshit this is this is honestly this is peak video assay this is just bullshit i i genuinely had forgotten that that's what now basketball oh maybe that's how you'll tie mario back in we need mario explain this concept also gets used in italian philosophy activities if you've ever been in the zone you've experienced but basketball has an end though matches the end also i disagree i think all sports are the middle forever no one ever really wins simply pause yeah no one's ever really gone oh no nobody's ever really gone we prefer to lose ourselves in the flow of the viewing flow but you could call that immersion we have several endings throughout game of thrones several things are ending people get very upset because it's sad when characters die because it means you'll not see them anymore their effect is gone ned stark it's one of the like biggest things the show is celebrated for you're like yeah people don't like eddies people don't really want endings like the other two bullshit experience this is what perpetual middle offers it offers never ending world building never ending character but it did but it's finished you can't will build forever or i mean theoretically i guess you could you just run out of interesting or relevant things to talk about it's like there's a there's a mouse over there gonna go lots of mice live in this area mice are interesting sort of for development and introductions i always highlight in all the characters that lived not the hundreds that died as if the you know the story just keeps going for these guys like yep through the fact that they just did die as quickly as the rest to new plot points that promise to build to something great i mean new plot points that's the first scene in season one i hear that again this this stuff guy they never ending world build wait if there's new plot points is that not a beginning well this is the thing more middle that's the implication means the plot points can come to an end but apparently that's only middle in the grand scheme yeah i was like i feel like if you went to him and just asked hey what do you mean what do you mean end it would be just like short circuits you just mean when the company decides that the ip is finished so that they've closed it off like it's customary in conversations to define our terms of the beginning so can you tell me what 100 years stopping somebody in 100 years from buying the rights to that property and then making more stories in that world or with those characters or would he agree that the ot was an end until disney made it the middle would you agree with that i don't know he'd say that it was always the middle it was always the middle yeah it was gonna happen i think character development and introductions to new plot points that promise to build to something great that guy there that's their target audience he's like yeah let me tell you about your intersection feminine how this is fucking upside down head that is an upside down head that's racist upside down heads are a mistake um so like yeah the night king was a new addition to an ongoing plot line i guess that's what he meant by new plot point but we've been desperately waiting for the white walker storyline to mean something because it's throughout the show and the biggest awesome element to it was that it kept drip feeding it and we were like this is going to be the big payoff and then it wasn't it was great but that's just because nobody could ever be satisfied that's why because it's all middle because of by his logic then if if game of thrones had continued would everyone have been happy with game of thrones season eight because it's still middle uh what even if it was still the same if it was exactly the same but they go yeah season nine's coming out next year what does he think that we people will be happy it's like oh it's not over so we're happy you see how everything falls apart i mean argument is stupid no people would still hate it that's the whole point isn't it look we referenced psych don't think about it um i can just picture be like well what about what about alan the he's you know he said you know you guys not listen to alan you haven't heard about alan our lord and savior exactly this is adam kurtis style you make a point and then you go on this convoluted journey to the point where you actually forget what the original idea was and we for fucking we call this flow we just got nonsense yeah sorry he was just experiencing some flow and didn't realize that he won't come into work today i got the flow new plot points that promise to build to something great who cares if it actually ever does land at that something the build up is in itself this is something about game of her own and you're asking that seriously i don't believe he just said that like i was waiting for anybody else to just who really cares about it it's all about the build up it's like literally the opposite is he trying to argue it's not the end it's journey but it's both kind of like the journey to be satisfying you have to have an end otherwise without each other yeah otherwise there's just a perpetual trek that's why i liked the line in the trailer for end game that iamant said part of the journey is the end he was talking about how you know it's been a long journey he's about to die and that's a part of the whole thing it's like oh it's interesting to think about it's like the you have to take the end into consideration of the journey it's not like this it's not like you have beginning journey end it's the whole thing yeah that's that's kind of solid because disney's like okay we're gonna make several other films in phase four but i actually agree that it's the end of iron man's story you know like he's got a start middle finish whatever you want to say but like he's like no it's the end it's like it's not the end for the MCU it's far from it there's still not really the end for iron man either because still like mentioned and the effect that his actions has had is still being seen like he's still very much a part of the story i mean the character referring specifically to him like the man himself like what's doing new things his influence on the world will obviously outlast him but that's that's pretty standard with most important figures in there something great who cares if it actually ever does land at that something the build up is in itself extremely satisfying binge watching serialized tv and playing video games to quote bolter offers the viewer player or participant not only pleasure in the moment how many video games do you think bolter playing fucking no he's a pro gamer he was fucking playing the legends little bit of a fucking battle royale master after the weapon from warhammer so he's a super gamer it's over at a game he's sports he's surrounded by groupies he can you know 360 no scope like a fucking pro yeah he's playing them in league of legends or some shit i don't know benjamin in chat said it's over anakin i have the middle ground also the seductive possibility that the moment might go on indefinitely so oh wait i want to look at that quote let's go yeah that makes no fucking sense wait put the pro gamer back on and what does he know about seduction that's so awful so he just goes to do so game of thrones and video games offer the viewer player or participant not only the pleasure in the moment but also the seductive possibility that the moment might go on indefinitely yeah um that's so seductive the idea that i will never ever ever stop doing one thing forever i was gonna say that can totally go both ways the idea like sometimes it's detrimental for games to not have goals to work towards because otherwise people will be like why am i here and for the most part right now i prefer a more casual experience where i can like play a game that i pick up for like five minutes and just play it and then get on with my life i don't want it to go on forever that sounds like hell but it's a false equivalency video games and films and tv it's it's not the same well i mean that's the weird thing that he's applying into game of thrones a series that has ended i guess he's trying to say that's why people are unsatisfied oh yeah game of thrones has obviously already finished yeah yeah because he's about to argue i think the the reason people are unhappy with game of thrones is because nobody ever wanted to end they wanted to go on forever no no not true at all but but these people with two names uh sound important so i just love the idea that we had j j david bolter here right now and he's like but people play video games for a long time you're like yes yes j end of point yes j they do isn't that the funny thing when you when you actually break it down to layman terms what they're saying is is utter bollocks it when you break it down behind they hide behind big words don't they they hide behind their vocabulary to sound smart but actually when you layman terms go so what you're saying is people play video games for a really long time and that's like watching tv for a long time uh yeah go uh nobody ever wanted game of thrones to end and it should go on indefinitely forever for generation nobody wanted place to end well if you look at this quote he's got but also the seductive possibility that the moment might go on forever indefinitely if you were to try and cut it down you'd be like but also that the moment might go on indefinitely you can literally cut out seductive possibility it's not like why is it productive well that's the thing you just highlighted it's like it makes it sound more you know fleshy you're like oh he's saying things that's the seductive possibility this doesn't feel like academic writing well you don't need the word possibility and might in the same moment he's like it's gonna it's possible that it might go on forever it's like so pick one are you saying it will or not it's possible it'll go on forever or that it'll go on it might go on maybe all all be the middle and again no counterargument to any of this they say these names of media types as if it's as if it's true that the no counterargument is very superfluous there's a lot of filler and again a lot of it is very subjective stuff this is all very feelings based because it's psychologists and things like that but what might be true of one person's feelings it's not gonna be true of another's maybe i played it again we go i really can't wait to finish this level because it's completed and i feel like i've done something i'm confused as well that is not just watching a tv show is it you don't watch game of thrones going i can't wait for this fucking thing to end i've been sitting here all time i wish i could get through this scene and why is any reference soap operas like isn't that the easiest thing to go for they just never end they literally just go on forever because it's not a video game reviews castigate video games for too much grind like i could are there are there american soap opera oh yeah absolutely days of our lives how many seasons have there been days of our lives yeah i'm talking about someone so like over here we have east tenders carnation street uh first episode was november 1965 number of number of episodes 13 635 i remember sounds like alan's worst night yeah they are the true never ending thousand middle it's not even but that's the thing even i would be like well not really because they'll keep having stories that have beginning middles and ends and during them new characters get introduced new stars get set up you know like it's just an ongoing set of stories it was still just the exact same characters well in some cases i want to see if there's been a character that started as like a teenager on one of these shows and it's like it you know like like oap if you were born the day the first episode came out you would be fuck 1965 and it's 2019 you'd be 54 years old i remember someone did the math on how how many hours of the day you would have to if you wanted to catch up to days of our lives you like i'm really invested someone i actually read somewhere someone calculated how many how long it would take you to get caught up speed we're talking years you would have to be basically alan alan would be right in this occasion you would never be able to pause you would have to be staying in the screen for years no he supports the idea of posing with 13600 episodes the episodes are owing for commercials what 40 minutes each oh 40 is it not an hour long i don't know what are we talking about days of our lives we're talking about someone else we're definitely talking about days of our lives this is on this is efap but we're talking we're calculating uh days of our lives statistics so let's see let me go to the official official days of our lives the wikipedia 30 30 minutes and then it was 60 minutes from 1975 onwards all right so for the most part it was an hour long so for the vast majority of its time for like 80 it was 10 years of 30 minutes and then the rest is is all right we're gonna go with 40 minutes so 40 we're 50 did it have breaks over like holiday seasons or anything well we know five days a week i love that this is happening right now so uh so we have 13600 episodes fucking tv show okay 13600 um times let's go with 40 so that's 21.76 million minutes of days for lives that's a lot of middle now let's divide that by 60 to get hours so that's 362,667 hours of days of our lives divide by 24 well no that can't be possible i fucked up along the way need time to sleep no it yeah no i i fucked up all i i must not be thinking if there are 13600 episodes you can't get more hours than that no i must have done something wrong along the way 13 6 no i'm not good at math sue me um right so what was it 13600 yes i'm multiplied by 40 to get minutes which is 544,000 yeah which i was already a different number so i must have clicked a wrong number so divide that by 60 yeah so now you get 9,066 hours then divide that by 24 i must have clicked uh i must have clicked an extra button or 377 days so that's a whole year yeah it's just over a year all right all right awesome of constant watching so that's no sleep no food nothing you have to sit there yeah you can eat while watching yeah but how are you gonna prepare the food you can prepare food while watching you can hire someone to prepare the food for you and you could have a shit bucket so you could hire someone quite an investment for days of our lives let's do it it's worth it it's worth it to know what happens in the middle timothy de mera or whatever that's a long time to spend in the middle yeah that is man not if you invite your friend but also the seductive possibility that the moment might go on indefinitely point is seductive possibility all right so do people not feel that when they watched plays or when they're reading books because i know i sure as hell felt that when i was reading a book i didn't want the stand-in i didn't want the count of money crystal to end oh yeah 100% yeah he talks as if people go to the theater and then they immediately expect people to suddenly lock the doors behind them go no you're in this play forever like some sort of no people do i really think they're you could have either could have had a whole video talking about why we have to have endings and why human beings desire endings like we we love endings to stories the things never ended we would have no people because everyone would be perpetually having sex and there would be no cum exactly and that's very seductive it's all the middle it's just this this is just terrible and it ignores so many things just to make a pretentious video might go on indefinitely okay wait i think we might we've got something wrong here because on bingeclock.com it says that to watch every episode of Days of Our Lives it would actually take 470 days and one hour well like i said to rags you should have times about 50 instead of 40 and one hour yeah but but what you're not taking into account is you have to catch up with the year you've spent watching Days of Our Lives oh fuck you're right that's right so how many episodes are you watching it and then you would miss a year and so you've got to watch the year oh shit that wouldn't add that wouldn't add that time so it's like you know like when you're trying to measure the distance between the start and the end of something and then you half it this process will never end binge clock days of our lives like i said you averaged on a 40 minutes 50 minutes would probably been more accurate well it says one it says one hour and if you if you went to watch them you would buy like DVD box sets so it wouldn't have the commercials in there okay this is the fourth longest binge watch are you fucking shitting me i'm okay the longest would be coronation street no it says um it says the guiding light is that some christian bullshit is it still going i don't know um i'm actually gonna i've never heard of it got what about when did when did qvc as a channel begin the guiding light began in 1952 damn i bet they had no idea when they started that but but but it ended in 2009 oh so it's finished though it began before it ended there it ended allen won't it ten years ago allen will be like no the longest running show had an end how it's primitive anyway people want plays i know what people want none of this netflix stuff and after that we have the cbs late movie and then as the world turns is after that right i've never even heard of any of these fucking shows i haven't either well it's like when james charles was in the news i've never heard of him but he has like 10 13 million subs and never heard of the guy yeah at the moment might go on indefinitely point is if you consider this shift in media it becomes appropriate to ask could game of thrones have ever achieved a satisfying ending yes yeah duh of course a fucking course like what's the you haven't even presented an argument for why it couldn't allen said world of warcraft exists oh okay like ironically that's this video wasn't the other guy what cheek me hi i am high because of my cheeks this is really confusing because the bold guy with glasses who says it's all seductive was also working in the theory of another psychologist who was talking about flow that quote didn't really incorporate flow that was more about enjoying something whereas flow is more of a state of being focused on productivity yeah i think they just wanted to name drop one more like researcher i actually think it does help your video essay if you cite some prestigious sounding person because people be like oh you did your research one but what they probably did was just google some guy let's not think about it beyond that let's just assume that it's correct because you just quoted someone but like i love the lack of info he's given to relative to game of thrones like to talk about it as if just like he just concludes this like about game of thrones like why game of thrones why do we want to talk about the story of game of thrones as well as like no like oh okay it's such a broad topic isn't it because the reason people were the reason people were unhappy the consensus was the writing was bad it wasn't bad we loved it so much we didn't want it to end we were quite happy to give it a break for a year while they redid you know where they shot the next series the problem is it ended really badly had nothing to do with the middle with all its catharsis it was just really badly written and that's he's not acknowledging that but he wants to be this pseudo-intellectual contrarian oh no no no i have this i have this is why this is why you don't like it you're not smart you're not watching you don't understand he also hasn't addressed how how endgame escape this fate because it's not like video because it's allowed to end basketball yeah i'm really missing the point now that he's trying to make and look how much time he's got he's probably got another fucking ad so how many more times is he gonna say allen come on bring allen back in you can bring it home could a show built on the honeymoon period of extended middle ever really you've not established that this is this is a show built on extended middle that's even oh wait guys look there's some graphs it's got some stats it's got you there in the same way with a conclusion a quick look at this collection of graphs that chart oh fuck off that's not a good electric who gives a shit about user submitted reviews look at how that's not a good metric look at the sexism what does this conclude exactly we're really satisfied in the same way with a conclusion a quick look at this collection of graphs that charts the quick look scores of shows as they approach their series finale is telling most of the serialized shows tank when they arrive at their end okay so did house of cards did any of that have to do with like kevin spacey do okay yeah house of house of cards season one and two are really good season three is mostly okay and then it starts to fall apart season four is terrible season five is an absolute disaster and then season six i haven't even watched but apparently that's the lowest rated one yeah but it also doesn't have kevin kevin spacey is murdered at the beginning of it off screen yeah it's a spin-off because of external bullshit that happened that you can't use that evidence that's the thing these all have contexts that are really important yeah correlation does not equal causation and imdb is not a metric i can make the same argument i a survey company you have special companies that do surveys imdb is not representative of everyone's thought in the populace i will also i'll give an equally shitty argument and just use the exact same graph my whole assay is about how writers literally get abducted by aliens and replaced with poor writers when they get to the end of their shows look at this graph this explains it okay i don't know that that proves aliens this is like yes it does i mean you could look at the office and people really like that so it is possible he's about to argue that that's different because the office isn't intelligent people intelligent people only watch the beginning of shows and dumb people stay and watch them through to the end and that's reflected here by these graphs that i found both buffy and angel shows buffy and angels are shows that had long running storylines and they both ended very satisfactorily to audiences but let's not bring up any shows that ended in what about breaking bad that totally breaks this yeah and he even mentioned it earlier and now he's just he's got to ignore it for this while the he's he's specifically oh so yeah so his argument rags is that all the shows that start and end with every episode as then you could watch them all out of order and it wouldn't make much of a difference uh they end happily people are happy with the endings and it's probably because also they don't have a comedy they don't have a perpetual middle yeah but that's that's what i mean it's not even necessarily true like a lot of like community is a comedy that uh you could argue is self-contained but they still have a basic plot progression that goes through each of the storylines but funnily enough you'd be like yeah but that had a poorly rated final season it's like yeah the writing was shit the last season though or at least it was shitter i don't know about shit parks and rec can't really be counted either there because there is there is progression happening through the story big bang theory is the same constantly the office is the same constantly like nothing really changes everyone same roles and stability and it's just episodic but yes this is a really good example the things you would argue in every middle it was like it was like serious dramas and these are just fucking sitcoms basically i mean this is the peak of cherry picking to fit his bullsh** argument so just to clarify for everybody his argument is when you have a start middle finish in every episode like friends or shows like these everyone is happy for them to end at any point but when you have a show that has a running plot line that develops nobody wants it to end and therefore rates the last season badly okay fine show me a graph like this for the simpsons which is episodic but has seen a a definite decline yeah the ratings will be dramatically different but this is the thing i would rather attribute all of these to writing not to whatever the hell is made of do you know why that's happened to the simpsons because it hasn't ended because it's gone on for so fucking long and everyone's bored and they've covered every topic imaginable that it's just it's just run out of steam yeah which completely is counter to what this guy's trying to say that we want everything to last forever for some fucking because we're dumb neanderthal you know what i could argue people highly rated the endings of these shows because they mostly hated these shows everyone just tend to hate them so they were really happy when they ended as much fucking support evidence i just have to reference you know j joda car michael the scientist from under the ground that's his whole thing most of the serialized shows tank when they arrive at their end while the episodic shows maintain favorability much more gracefully this can't be a coincidence yeah it's not it's literally about the writing i love how the simplest answer is the correct one if it was well written yeah people would be digging it these very specific examples i've chosen to prove my point can't be a coincidence i still think there's validity to the alien theory i don't know it can't be that all the competent writers leave before the final season why no it doesn't you don't have to know that happens all the time it's one of the reasons sitting here for simpsons yeah because it made lost some of the writing teams who made some great jokes and it went it happens since when stuff changed since since when is it only possible for a person to either make good or bad things you can't that they can only make one look at ridley scott he made alien and he made prometheus explain that alan does he does he not remember the writer's strike that hit hollywood like 10 years ago that drastically affected shows and their ratings because the caliber of writing went to shit it and those shows didn't end how does he explain breaking bad in the middle yeah in the middle of some tv series they had a writer strike that to change up some of the writers and the shows went to shit and then maybe they got some of the rights back it's all these seniors and maybe it's harder to do one than the other doesn't mean it's not about whether it's possible and i would actually agree with that by the way it's harder to do one than the other it's way easier to end a self-contained episodic tv show than a one that runs a plot line from literally episode one up to episode 100 yeah writing isn't easy but when when people finish a video game do they go on meta score websites and then go i was enjoying it so far but now i'm gonna downvote it what it is it's not it's square peg round hole and it is just not fitting no matter how much you mash it against there yeah much more gracefully this can't be a coincidence it can't be that all the competent writers leave before the final season or that only episodic tv attracts talented artists as if anyone would make those arguments jesus christ i love how he he only tackles two of the stupidest arguments you could come up with like maybe all the talented people leave on the last episode i don't know what's more extreme than a straw man a paper a jelly man i came up with that one of the straw man yeah there was like episode seven of uh efap i think i said it about quinton taking my arguments and he turned he made a jelly man out of him it's like a straw man and then i think i said he he still didn't even count to the jelly man like he made a really bad argument so the jelly man like killed him the jelly man just kind of wobbled onto him and suffocated yeah he fell into his mouth and he joked on the jelly when you lose to a jelly man that's uh you're in a bad spot but there's leaves before the final season or that only episodic tv attracts talented artists it's not that we need to stop criticizing game of thrones again we made a whole video doing just that but media like game of thrones may not be built to end like cinematic universes so dumb uh and cinematic you just said it isn't built to end like a cinematic universe has ended what yeah the mcu is over it's still going what the fuck i mean but i guess technically the monsters universe is over after the only ones that ended yeah the only ones that have ended are the ones that couldn't make money to go on that's it the other ones are still going media like exactly and that's not a surprise is in part profit is this is stupid i hate it can end like cinematic universes are with serialized television we don't seek the catharsis that is perhaps implicit in a contained narrative experience one is built to end the other to keep on going the mcu hasn't ended argument is flawed what about franchises like star wars that that's going on for years if you told me one of my counter arguments today would be explaining that the mcu hasn't ended i wouldn't have believed you has a franchise ever ended has anyone ever announced the only end of a franchise they would yeah this the thing i'm pretty sure star wars ended like george was like i'm not making any more and i'm not selling the rights who's like it's added until it doesn't until someone buys it and then continues that's the thing it doesn't really everything is middle he was right alan was right nothing's ever really gone but but we don't enjoy the middle because you didn't enjoy fucking the last jedi and that's the middle of a trilogy yeah so no it's pretty it's full of holes pretty suitable that he said that all we ever do is full of holes it is just a big hole he is a hole well a hole is full of holes he is a hole yeah a giant hole is just lots of little holes put together one is built to end the other to keep on going means so what do you guys think we gave you should what we think it the ways in which we that means predated i'm sorry to drag that into it can you come on guys yeah well means memes were made to end well there ever be an end to a serialized tv show that's better than its extended middle what yes angel's ending was better than the majority of its middle wait what end to a serialized tv show that's better than its extended middle let us know what's thing in the car will there ever be an end to a serialized television show that was better than its extended middle that's his fucking question how would you even measure i don't know i don't actually know how you fucking measure that like is it literally just by episode ratings you go from finale an episode be better than like multiple seasons like i don't even what kind of fucking question is that well i think there was more character development in those 10 seasons of the show than in this one episode so i think that's better like what metric do you that would make shows what a strange question okay okay you're asking something at the end i'm curious if we go another ad coming what comments thanks to all our patrons who support the channel and our podcast is that it don't forget to hit that subscribe button and before you go i want to give another shout out to wicks and our we have to fight we have to find out about little little chin kin lee's oh yeah hi or whatever hi leah hi cheek you want to find out about him me hi cheeks me hi me hi cheeks me six me hi me hi cheeks sent me hi hi that was it cheek cheek sent me hi behind me what do you think of that video guys i ain't getting those two raised some very good points they get like hundreds of thousands to millions of views this is terrible this is awful it like they got a full career from just spouting bullshit it's just looking here let me regurgitate something i read someone else say i guess that's how it like removes responsibility to be like this is a bullshit theory it's like it was not mine it was it was jay well i was that was telling me how i was just giving out i made a theory i was just going to find out how it's not even real like he's just they just make up these guys it's a jelly man it's felt like an algorithm spunked it out because it has popular things in it game of thrones video games and the avengers these are all really popular things on the internet how can we fit that into an essay to help our youtube career um make it so give it an open-ended stupid question that will never be happy with endings because we've played too many video games or something like that that sounds like well we can have you seen with stats and nice sounding sound bites from academics there we go that's a wrap what a piece of shit austin mcconnell's video where he got this video sponsored he got an ai to write a script for a movie and then he got another ai to script that the ai wrote for a movie and it starts off kind of okay and then just descends into absolute nonsense i think i read what that was i mean that's what gondelb is it's supposed to feel like it's generated by an ai just says pretentious things but it's it's all built from actual quotes from real people that's what makes it so great you just go up to the wisecrack video machine and you just type in three buzzwords and it just mashes some kind of video to get from what i understand wisecrack used to be good a lot of people tend to say that like there's a couple of people in chat saying they used to like this channel i think they once they got super popular and they started to um you know like crank out content super fast yeah it's just like avengers endgame fucking game thrones uh one's hated one's like we come up with like a philosophical theory as to why it's like people like things that last long will the warcraft go like yeah i still don't see how mario ties into any of well there's no counter-argument as well it was all by it was stupid it was poorly conserved if you gave if you were if that was an actual written essay you would get very low marks assuming your professor didn't subscribe to postmodern too much which unfortunately is quite a lot of professors you would get marked down that is a poorly constructed less your professor was allen yeah i see you've taken inspiration from one of the better writers of our world you know like can you believe that a video game that relies on a subscription model in which you pay monthly never ends sanity in can you but oh we're kind of a force is driving that phenomenon this next one right so this is gonna be weeks we're not watching the full video but this is called the walking dead why do we love the zombie apocalypse it's pretty i watched the whole video because i was curious um it's pretty tame analysis it's just like a basic reason for why we might be attracted to watching zombie stories and stuff the interesting thing is and someone wrote this in the comment section that's why i've actually got these times specifically i didn't have to do this myself from one minute oh seven to one minute twenty there's an ad from five minutes six to five thirty five there's an ad and then from seven twenty seven to the end of the video there's an ad so that's wait five like a third a third of the video basically pretty much which is apparently why it pissed off a lot of people because it's just like such a limited content for anything but anyway i was watching it i was like i want you to guy i don't hope bizarre this sounds okay but we're doing this we're gonna go to the last portion of the ad i want us to judge the quality of this ad okay like let's pretend for a second that you were like let's let's let's watch some ads to see if we want to get some um some some products let's see if he sells you on this this thing because this is really what dystopic dreams are it's gonna start in like 15 seconds restart in a more simplified world thinly veiled by the apparent horror of dystopic collapse and it's not just the walking dead between bear grills naked and afraid and survivor man the shock of living a simpler existence provides the same kind of escape as space travel did 50 years ago so what do you think is our love of the walking dead a resignation to the hopelessness of it all or do we just love seeing zombies get stabbed in the brain speaking of stabbing zombies in the brain let's check out some more the walking dead no man's land here's my camp you can see how much time i've been put in meticulously organizing it no great build already i'm like well not really so meticulously organized you've got like five what vegetable things over there and then why would you spend gold to upgrade buildings that doesn't make any sense in a zombie apocalypse that is like is like do you want to upgrade your building yeah do you have gold ingots i'm like what a bizarre yeah that is a bizarre currency to do you have clean water because surely that building is going to be providing you a shelter and nobody's made of gold there's gold they're just zombie apocalypse so much gold playing around you just take it it's collapsed yeah i just love the fact that you're telling you to stockpile gold because of inflation you just build the golden house it's not worth anything also note he's like no it's like enthusiasm too but yeah just the idea that he's like look at how meticulous this is like i don't it looks like a mess on my screen but okay maybe that's the brain maybe if stabbing zombies in the brain but check out some more the walking dead no man's land here's my camp you can see how much time i've been put in meticulously organizing it you can upgrade buildings to get more resources i love all your equipment armor and people i've been dumping all my experience into daryl because he can mow down rows of walkers now i'm going to put him on my team for this story mission so it looks like i have to get into these supplies so clear this guy's out distance with your gun uh looks like i have to protect abraham while he opens it this is my favorite part this is my like this is an official ad thing like he has to actually sound like a kid does he not this is my favorite part this is my favorite part oh yeah that again is so good see how much i enjoy it so it looks like i have to get into these supplies so clear those guys out wow looks like i have to protect abraham while he opens it wow okay this is my favorite part wow now time to get out without dying unfortunately because i played this game i can't enjoy the ending michelle almost got killed yep oh but thank god i like the this is having the complete opposite effect he would have intended he's like please buy this would like no now time to get out of that dying favorite part and save that last this is my favorite value and they made a pretty fun game of opening boxes for some random rewards they also made a pretty fun game of opening up boxes yep for some random reward go and fuck yourself just look at go go and have the zombies just line up and fuck you one at a time look at it though it's it looks like you just tap something they open it's the most basic fucking opening system ever completing the mission and they made a pretty fun game of opening boxes for some i was in a fun game so fun game i don't understand people will do anything for my they'll just do anything i know right show the shitty game yeah fuck it why not this is my favorite part yeah here's the thing like movie tie-in video games are bad enough but dead ass tv show tie-in mobile game that's a whole new level garbage this week's special bundle unlocked in nine hours and 26 minutes i'm gonna go ahead and bet you could probably pay to get that at faster oh i'm gonna i would hope so that's how you know it's a quality game release you know this i'll bet after this video released they had to pay the walking dead because so many people didn't buy it in fact uninstall the they owed amc money after this let's play one it looks like you get to relive rick and company securing the prison oh i have to walk these entrances where walkers keep this is my favorite you know make sure they don't murder me in the process so i've got to get that dumpster blocking it why then this fence they can still clearly get i got this dumpster blocking it you sound like you want to kill yourself can you please right so maggie's got a i guess a machine gun rick's got a handgun fucking glens over there with a knife this is america and the zombie apocalypse there are more guns than people there's no reason i need to be walking up to zombies with a knife you can save your ammo it makes the game more exciting it's very exciting that's ton of walkers in my way wow i guess this is home sweet home now thanks again to next game i don't understand why using darrell's power was a favorite part when i think pushing the dumpster was probably my favorite part that looked really fun yeah that's actually pretty good yeah i look forward to unlocking the dumpster pushing perk that's going to highlight my fucking game you can upgrade the perk to either push small dumpsters further and faster or to push larger dumpsters this dumpster is going to take nine hours to push would you like to pay would you like to spend gold to make it go faster here darrell i know you have to push that dumpster but if you give this little goblin some gold he'll help you push it quicker hi i'm randy the goblin i'll help you push a dumpster to escape the zombies if you give me gold it gets like i just can't get over it look how casually a switch is from like the game footage just out of it it's like oh right we're watching something else and that's a ton of walkers in my way i guess this is that i guess they died okay thanks again to next games for sponsoring this video and be sure to check out the walkers in my way and on the app store or google play download it using the link in the description below before june 28th and you can unlock negan for free they're also wow you can unlock negan wow how much would negan cost otherwise i'm curious about that based on what i've seen what i've seen here guns are super fucking op i don't give a shit about a guy with a club quest frankly that called midsummer mayhem yeah but how quickly can you push dumps one billion walkers everyone gets a gold i'll sacrifice a bit of dumpster oh dude capability if we all collectively kill a million walkers we get a golden club wow million walkers just 12 people who play like this is rarity legendary and it's like yeah when everyone gets it it'll she'll be rare yeah heal and you can play with us join wisecrack's hyperion guild with me i'm salvo and tata's parking beseech which i'm gonna go ahead and guess these two never played the game again they they play it every day they love it well i think he calls himself slavoj zizek apparently as in the commie philosopher slavoj zizek the famous commie full of bullshit philosopher slavoj zizek yeah is that his in-game handle or his actual name i don't know i don't why i don't want to be associated with a communist philosopher it's called fucking bastige these just don't sound like real people's names told us a botched reference to some movie there's 17 slots left in the guild so hurry on up wow 17 slots i'm imagining there's a lot of slots now i can't make the play the laughing dead with my favorite youtubers i'd ring that bell thanks for watching wisecrack ask crack no i need to just i just need to get that bit again this is my favorite part we did that by accident great this is my favorite part this is my favorite part story mission you need you need to get like an efap soundboard this is my favorite part is like can you imagine saying that like right before you come in some bitch do you think anybody like proof this like someone watches like dude you sound like death you're just slapping it in there and then all of a sudden this is my favorite part get into the supplies to clear those guys out uh it looks like i have to protect abraham while he opens it uh this is my favorite part it's beautiful abraham is your favorite part you don't understand it looked like they were losing anyway there's just zombies everywhere amazing oh man so devoid of any enthusiasm yeah that i guess pissed off their audience quite a bit and uh yeah i can imagine why wisecracker an interesting beast but yeah the so there's something else i actually meant to do this before the videos but hey whatever as long as i do it at some point so um there was a you know the the stream the me rags and scenic snacks were all part of the goliath stream oh yeah the infamous it um that was an amazing stream it uh it got linked on the subreddit that doesn't like us and i wanted you to see three comments that are just amusing to read oh great this is in relation to the goliath orphan bow dead city cosmic chicken stream all right all right guys this isn't the first time this has happened they did something similar to cinema wins similar to patrick willams similar to fuck it i really think these twisted shells of men cannot be saved or redeemed in any fashion there is no way they'll stop acting the way they do no matter how many times reality fucks them in the ass they are an insult to film criticism they are an insult to the star wars fandom to the objectivity for subjectivity debate they are an insult to youtube hell they are an insult to the human race um so we just talked about movies i didn't i didn't know that we're an insult to the human race by talking about stars like whoa um um like it blows my mind that we would we would upset someone to that degree uh but the twisted shells of men it's like did you watch the stream did you see what we were talking about like really we're just having fun while cynic tried to survive in that alleyway so uh the next one up all right all right click the link here all right a whole lot of talking with nothing to say i'm sure they've sat on their ass calling people special snowflakes how much of an ego do you have to have to record yourself doing nothing for hours and call it content what do you want us to do people watch it funny memes mean doing nothing i was running away from dogs in an alleyway in the philippine that's something all right i like that they said calling special snowflakes it's like what what have we ever even done that we probably have at some point but yeah not not not not an often occurrence but patrick willams made a video about tlj that was really well made and talked about trying to enjoy a movie and focusing on the experience and not searching for plot holes these dirt bags did a multiple hours long video where they constantly paused it and laughed out loud through the whole thing that's where i decided that no one who watches these dicks is worth my time oh no we laughed at his hero patrick willams um but yeah this shit is gold to me i can't believe we make people feel this way this is insane it's like how do you get this from epham i'm sorry that you feel that much about anything it's it's hard didn't it people are so invested in fandom any criticism taken as a personal in different opinion silly you're cutting out a little bit i don't know sorry like random words sorry about that uh no i was just saying that it's it's strange how people are so invested in their fandoms that any criticism feels like a personal attack on them and not a difference of opinion which you're entitled to i mean i don't know anybody who can have you ever hit so we'll say you're not entitled to an opinion especially when it comes to movies i wish i wasn't such a dirt bag so weird will we live in there are some memes can i get them ready this is my favorite part it's not a huge amount but they're all related to this wonderful stream huh wow no momentum you know how it be with the memes sometimes people don't think it'd be like it is but it do people don't think it'd be like that but it do alan in the middle i like that alan in the middle oh i wasn't a woman so that's cool alan you're embarrassing me this is actually relatively deep rappers but i think we all know it alan alan this guy is just it's like his imaginary friend alan in the middle i swear how mario ruined the game of thrones he eventually got there i swear oh this goes all the way to the beginning spy tonight now he's shooting people in different ways tom bale samuel l canes and dyer ledger coby oldman john eckhart jake jill and hall wait actually oh damn oh yeah that actually works i didn't think about that the marissa free but and that is it for me marus um very good work guys very quick turn around oh yes obedient wonderful stuff um i guess i'll start uh reading the good old super chats because it's actually all of i mean i've got a backup tonal video but i always feel bad about doing tonal without wolf being here because wolf you know tonal's his favorite and i feel like it would be really evil to take that away from him yeah um but yes that video wasn't very good wisecrack might still be decent as a channel overall i don't want this stuff not a great first impression though i'm sure you guys would agree yeah definitely not um definitely not good i mean they've got videos apparently they're criticizing like the story writing or the analysis of the plot of game of thrones i'm like i'm curious if they actually ripped into it or if they tried to take like a weird middle ground of some kind and avoid uh take advantage of both sides of the argument but sometimes can damage your channel to do that so i'm curious but the idea was misleading though oh yeah it's the whole fucking video is misleading we had no idea where we were going it is opening this is about video games what it's not about video games it's actually about psychology and how you like the middle what no actually it's about roman uh greek ampitheaters what it's crazy um schizophrenic lucky benus 11 and have you guys seen lucky number 11 yeah a long time ago i like that move it's good it was fun anyway it was about all the loads of different uh assassins right to a degree trying to get one target like two big powerful people in a city trying to get each of the killed by accidents okay i think i can't well i remember is the this is a big twist and i remember what it is still so huge ensemble cast yeah i have seen it i do remember being like yeah it's okay about it it was a long time ago yesterday wisecrack released a video saying anime is fascist all right hi rags hi hey hello all my smelly niece that is a reference to they didn't put the last word on there ooh response to wisecrack good they've been really clickbait lately may the blessed pipe man and the dawn bless the stream if they did rags loves them being a sticked cumba bath water oh that's something we could ask hey cynic snacks if someone willingly purchases another person's bath water and drinks it do they deserve to get herpes um it really depends on their knowledge of the behaviors and hygiene of the person they're purchasing it from and if it is safe to assume that there's probably going to be some in the water then that's your own fault so you would define how much someone deserves a thing by how much is their fault that the circumstances take place well yeah because if they think there's a if you know you you can estimate i guess but on your knowledge of the individual what is the pot like percentage chance that the bath water is going to contain herpes and then you drink it based on that tell us how we'd find that out i guess just knowledge of their intimate personal life and how many partners they've had or how they behave so what so you're saying that if it was a random person's bath water that you decided yes i will drink this you don't deserve to get herpes well if you don't have any information to go off then that in itself is a stupid thing to make you you couldn't possibly figure out the so you're basically do you do deserve herpes let me let's uh let me ask you this if you are a doctor and you go to work in a leper colony do you deserve to get leprosy um you don't deserve to get it no but it is a risk of the job all right so you don't okay all right just all right just curious have to be willing to get it but you don't deserve it at all so we're talking about bell delphine's bath water now there was there was a debate you say bath water and everybody just assumes we're talking about bell i'm just saying because it wasn't there i think there was a smear campaign saying people drunk here and they got herpes and it was all fake clickbait oh yeah it was all bullshit yeah yeah and i doubt i i don't even think it's genuine bath water honestly just i think she would i think she would be putting herself in huge legal trouble if she actually sold that although she did send a parcel containing a Tupperware of a probably about a week's worth of spit oh my god she sent that to Ethan Klein oh yeah no way as a present yeah i would have opened it up on stream and looked at it and it was all like milky and thick and gross oh god that's her cum that's her lady cum but yeah the next do you think you you might do merchandise that caliber you're thinking imagine you can tell me cheese you're gonna put some cheese i'd never do i'd never do liquids but you do solids oh god hey i'm not saying anything so crumbs and pepperoni did you just assume that i'd make solids no he's assumed you have solids a part of you that you would rip off yourself and sell to people yeah maybe if they would regenerate mm-hmm um your law is really confusing snacks regenerating pizza i don't know it makes sense because he wouldn't last very long if he was just a sentient pizza like a couple days gotta fall the fuck apart he was a particularly greasy one he was like sealed completely and then you know there's a lot of other questions there with the biology so you're applying a lots of assumptions to my existence i am that is what what i does you you have a mouth so presumably you have the entire digestive system so presumably you do poo as well do you poo out the back or at the bottom of the triangle the bottom of the triangle is uh my weenis oh that makes sense but so much like how you humans can expel you humans liquids from your body through sweating i do that with all of my waist so all of it just comes out in the form of grease through my front oh i thought that whatever you ate became your topping oh no i'm always mushroom okay that's just my race should we wear a new race we will prevail that's a beautiful piece of fan art really oh where uh yeah with the classic it's it's just resurfaces all the time the it all started with uh it all comes down to bathwater leading to a discussion on what does it mean to deserve an event occur to you something to happen to you what does it mean to deserve something the very interesting one i like asking everybody i asked jeremy on geeks and gamers and he said they absolutely deserve to get herpes if they drink someone's bathwater i mean yeah what do you what's the best you can hope to achieve from consuming bathwater of a person i don't know what's your like what's your like best possible outcome they just get the nice taste that they're after and they get a sense of catharsis in mentally and physically a little bit of thirst quenching perhaps hello people it wouldn't taste no it probably wouldn't here's the thing can can so can something like herpes survive in water because there's no host i think people did actually say that you can't get it like that or something i don't know it's no you can't transfer that just through can't water contact otherwise everyone would have it surely like swimming parasites parasites color or thing waterborne diseases sure if she's a very dirty girl you could have those weird worms that call up your urethra so you drink the bathwater and then suddenly you've got a pain in your crank so piss worms yeah piss worms beautiful beautiful piss worms from bell delphin that's what you can put on your twitter and get validated by everyone that's a good uh video title you get a probably about a yep and i would and i would bring it back to super mario how super mario causes piss worms oh my goodness no you're gonna make it sound more pomo mario why did you make piss worms the intrinsic value of mario piss worms there you go gotta gotta have the big words gotta have the big way it sounds smart you gotta ham up the the snooty far tougher you know that's how you do it you can pull video i the amount of times they've been tempted to set up a satire essay channel with really obvious piss taking i've always it's it's ripe for for the taking there's so many of these pseudo intellectual assayists it's a gold mine to exploit and and you know i don't mean to kiss your ass here but thank fuck for efap to to pull the pull off the veil of these assayists and go guys some of them are a bit pseudo intellectual we're offering a counterpoint because there's not many counterpoints to these assayists everyone takes their word at face level it's just their opinion they can't be wrong if it's just their opinion no i'm sorry we're just twisted shells of man yeah i was gonna say that's what happens when we respond but hey we couldn't do today without you guys to you guys are doing your good work as well stopping these people um the next one says hi rags wish me a happy birthday you massive that's from cody opperman cody opperman happy birthday here you go cody yeah don't don't blow it go and do something fun and amazing and enjoy your birthday yeah just i don't know take a nap man just have a good wank and tell yourself you ain't gonna clean it up till morning just just sleep in that shit just let it get all crusty all over yourself and make sure you say this is my favorite part this is my favorite part you're gonna sound deader just goes dead as if this is my favorite part this is my favorite part this is my favorite part what if jesus was a commie how do we know that he might have been if you subjectively drank bath water could you objectively get herpes i think we just answered that in the entire discussion honestly several times clearly follow up question from that same person rags finger me until your brow furrows say what no no the first part but uh it's just one part really okay then the last part rags finger me until your brow furrows um oh there's your answer right there that's an agreement normally that's not normally that's not an action that would cause my brow to furrow mola what are your thoughts on phase four of the mcu unless i was trying to find your butt and i was like maybe squinting you know kind of looking for it but generally it's an easy thing to find i'm not going to encourage about phase four of the mcu the only movies i really want to see from all the ones that have been announced is blade out of curiosity and dr strange too because they said it would be a horror and scala which is in it which interests me they don't really care about love and thunder don't really care about the tv shows i might give them a shot but um and then that seems to be about it phase four looks pretty dull so far uh i want to see god in three there's gotta be some surprise announcements for phase four that they're like keeping because that that that initial announcement lineup is pretty bare oh blade is phase five okay fair enough um fun hypothetical how would you take the elements of Wakanda put into a medieval setting have them be imperialists and have them be an antagonist uh how would why i thought what the whole point of Wakanda was that they were only imperialist at the beginning and then they stopped for no reason you know because only white people would continue to conquer things at least that's what everyone told me a lot that sounds a lot like a great a comic series called green valley which started a few years ago where there's a guy who travels back in time to like the medieval times um and they all think that he's a wizard but he's actually just got like an ipad that can do cool shit but yeah so how would you take the elements and put into an medieval setting i would probably make them really terrifying actually as a faction remember that story we came up with there's like a just a ring of bones around their entire black walkers and every time someone sees like any one of that which means he's racist oh absolutely we're all racist year it's okay because um it means uh it means that you're honest because everybody everything is racist everything you want to know why you just got to point out why do they do that because they're so deadly and terrifying people like don't even see them so they just call them the black death because it's like the plague it just happens and sweeps through it it kills that sounds like you're trying to justify racism right it's disgusting also they're from africa an illustrator for the designing stuff for game of thrones fifth season mog park is gonna be at hawaii con should uh what question should i ask if i get the chance uh he was responsible for designing what stuff for game of thrones fifth season um ask what he thinks of the layers the how it ends do what he says i couldn't he design a better script but he has no influence on the script that paul yeah maybe should have should have burned it down hi all hope you'll cover tonal soon been a while oh i'm sure we will we got plenty of uh absolutely got plenty of things there's a couple things i've got to talk about at the end of when i get to the end of the super chest like fun things ahead i talked about it on someone's stream but i haven't talked about it you the only drag that's acceptable is behind a truck that's mean i just wait i was just watching the jack eric street no drag air drag like air resistance you get the the drag i thought they were talking about dragging bodies no no no not dragging personal uh i was just watching the jack eric stream in response to efab so much pain but anyway guys they did it okay the way that they did it rhino milk on me i'm glad they had fun and i'm hoping i hope their audience had fun as well they sound like a bunch of dirtbags they sound like shells of men yeah husks hello guys i'm very glad to see snacks and pikemen back on i unfortunately won't be able to catch efab live anymore because of my new job but i'll still try and get a super chat in whenever i can no problemo mr chip chibilly chip to be there just quit just check them out when they re-upload it'll all still be there this is for rags thanks rags wish you're welcome yeah i don't know what the thanks was full but yeah yeah i don't either um i'll be back i'm salad king all right see you wouldn't well two episodes ago i misspelled pat parick willams on sc and you pronounced it ever since then i've had night terrors panic attacks and have relapsed into my gambling addiction i feel dead inside also hi rags hello hi movie movie panic attacks movie binge update brave heart great but suffers heavily for one of the worst written romances i think i've seen in cinema wow both were so rushed oh yeah i know that's just that's just scottish romance scottish medieval romance they just didn't know how to do it back then didn't know how uh when will you guys do another efab gaming there's no real limit on it or expectation we just sort of jump in but there is one we've sort of been planning so again not like probably not within the next few weeks because we've got plans for stuff but yeah it's not something we don't want to do we do want to do i wasn't there talks of of efab and great british podcasts we we do a gaming session or something left for dead or something like that i don't work if there's six of us well it's got the the versus mode so we can get a couple of games rags hate this is not we weren't going to do it i'll play it for the set i'll play it for efab um hey the other problem is that versus mode doesn't work unless we actually split into teams like you know the idea that we can't plan anything if we're literally talking to the people who are trying to plan things against i no no that's that's the fun part i think you think play rocket league yeah i think rocket league would be better if everyone had that yeah we can do that i haven't played it but i think i've got it that you know what that could work i also want to do like an actual just you know we all respond to a video the six of us i think that'd be cool a big shouting match basically you would have to be totaled we'd have to save it we've got plenty of total to work with so yes uh more just started playing re4 any tips um not really re4 is very uh very rewarding to just playing in lots of different styles so you should be fine uh just be careful i would recommend playing on harder difficulties to increase the potential scare factor but if you just want to play the way you want to play go for it i love re4 he wants to play resident evil four apparently he's just started it he's saying any tips um honestly it's kind of just go through it as you go through it just look for stuff look for goodies keep looking around yeah look around um but you'll learn as you go it is one of my favorite games of all time i own it for four different systems i probably agree with that draw out every single level in that game in my head i've played it so many times uh me mento update bpm adoption question bpm in fact i need to install resident evil four i do want me to ask did i mean i'm pretty sure cynics naks was on the adult of the stream we talked all about it so i'm not uh sure who you're speaking to directly maybe uh you know vox just do you think orphans deserve love that's a no he's saying silent out of respect because he's an orphan too but he knows the truth uh disney star wars is the adaptation though source material is the original trilogy you could say that but that doesn't make it true second it's the continuity hasn't changed you got everything is the same um at that point it's like talking about what is canon and what isn't you can have head canon but the reality the only meaningful thing you can say about canon is just who owns the ip and then claims what is canon it kind of sucks but everything else gets is me um disney star wars isn't an adaptation just the continuation um the sequel yeah yeah it would be defined as a sequel while homecoming would not be a sequel to the comics masses you need to watch jojo's bizarre adventure is so unique you'll never watch a show like it plus each wait wait did you say jojo's bizarre bizarre adventure mm-hmm is that a motherfucking jojo reference i think so each part has different characters and tones you'll find a part you like oh yeah any e-fab can be 24 hours if we super chat enough technically well i can only stay for another maybe hour and a half i think we should be done in around an hour at most that would be my guest oh boy um oh boy hey wolf have you seen the two konosuba ova is they're good but one is so i will i will just copy this to save it for the if wolf is in the chat then this is a super chat towards the chat so someone in the chat i get it i don't think he is though maybe that man is working his everything's i guess how can i hate how can i hate fuck rags when i'm not gay but he's so lovable asking for a friend um maybe it's not the gay part it's the hating part you'd have to one get yourself in a position where well um you would have to be gay or just bite the bullet for a bit uh then you'll learn to like it but you'd also have to find a way to hate me which many have found a way to do but often for terrible reasons and you don't want to do that if you want it to really be a hate fuck then you have to hate me for like a real reason you know uh you guys should invite arch warhammer on efab i believe he is uh he's actually on board right yeah yeah yeah it'll happen eventually oh yeah you bet please help my siblings actually like the last jedi what should i do disown them forcefully re-educate them or just have them humanely destroyed uh the latter i mean tell him you know doesn't have to be humane though it's all right they'll get over it one day it's okay they'll recover it's like a it's actually kind of like leprosy you think there's just things keep falling off but someday someone cured it that's uh you know that analogy works perfectly now show me on the map with a bad man touched you oh no get it join efab here don being man-loved thumbs up i mean he is the dog blessed be the pipe man also high rags hello captain mom he sent a berculus is upon you oh no captain mar will touch his stan lee's mall rat screenplay i know and he could have killed it it would have been law lawfully legally lawful yep he didn't because he's a nice man he had all the right it's like palestinian slingshots are rock israel drops cluster bombs in retaliation yeah but it's as long as it's justified legally which we really topical we can trust legal legal right guys i'm he seems like a good guy he's a stand-up gentleman uh thanks for entertaining me on my 14 hour car drive oh no this efab won't be long enough 14 hours wait we'll be able to put out one that's going to be longer eventually lollipop man bad efab on trousers wait efab on trousers off milk rhino spiders mystic yep it's toxic time i can imagine cheerleaders doing that before the big game the efab game that'll be the little cheerlead us against great british podcast it's gonna be so awkward because i'll be betraying my british brethren but i have to i have no choice and the colonies are pretty cool guys check them out i'm mola rags pizza man and blessed pipe man hello band is back again oh good for you costume department i'm not even sure that's right the real hero of shazam is that stupid news report yes uh so i mean do you guys care about shazam spoilers no so far away so as you probably are aware he's like a kid and when he says shazam he turns into the adult superhero man who's like super invincible and awesome and everything and when he says shazam again he turns into the very vulnerable kid um so the villains chasing him and villains like doing a pretty good job beating the shit out of him and um he gets like spooked and so he goes shazam in the middle of the fight and runs off so like the villain doesn't know where he is because obviously he doesn't know he's like oh a kid what the fuck and he walks up he's just walking around like looking for him and then there's this news report that's playing this clip from earlier where shazam in his adult form was talking to a friend of his who knows him as the younger one calling him by his like name i think his name's billy i don't know if i remember and then the villain looks at that report like hmm that kid clearly knows who shazam is in kid form and then he literally just pans to the left and that same kid is standing there going hey billy where are you billy billy the villain is like and grabs him and yeah it's like the only thing that allows the villain to find the hero in the whole plot line it's like so bad when i was watching it because watching last night all the night before i can't remember with um with metal we had drinks and fucking hell we were laughing to that shit we were like one of the fucking odds that a news report plays the exact thing he needs and then the kid of the news report turns up to the left of the news report saying the exact same thing it was funny uh shazam wasn't very good i'm afraid i had fun with it but holy shit the right of the special when you um when you described it i thought it was like supposed to be a joke in the movie no it was just really bad uh very minor detail slash flubs like the ones that shazam director mentioned don't matter as much as contrivance his plot holes and character inconsistencies do yeah yeah agreed there are two different things yeah why are rags and vox is so much better than everyone else treat my prostate like a misbehaving ketchup bottle please we'll slap that we'll slap some discipline india um i told you i'd be back hi rags please spend this irresponsibly all right for 10 you know it uh dear efab would you rather get a tattoo of brie larson's face on your forearm or get a tramp stamp of quinton with his alternate facial hair behind mr man's where oh yeah um hmm i can i would i'd do the brie larson for on my forearm yeah yeah because i don't want to have to explain to people when they pull down my pants and they're staring at my ass i don't want to that's really not the ideal time to get into some kind of a excuse i'd have to come up with as to why i have a picture of a strange ugly mongoloid on the back on the top of my crack i would rather you know clinton you well the captain marvel what you could just say like yeah i lost a bet but with the quinton one you'd be like okay saying i lost a bet does not explain this enough i'm sorry this is just a disaster i mean i would probably be able to come up with some non humiliating reason to have captain marvel's face on my forearm and it could be like the back of the forearm or something like that yeah and then you could like add you could slowly but surely add all the other faces of the the marvel superheroes to it until you had a like a collage of all the superheroes so it wouldn't be a big deal if captain marvel was there because everyone was there um and then you could put like gandalf on there and you know blade and all sorts of other stuff you know i mean he didn't say we can't get it removed immediately after no i i think it's the spirit of the question i know but i like you have to know how to read you gotta poke the holes you gotta find them holes and poke them you do and when people poke my holes i don't want to be fucking be staring at quinton's face especially some of his uh his latest iterations oh man he look what an ugly person hey jesus christ uh rags you gotta make a video of wolf is tied youngblood um i am going to do a review on it yes probably my next review that i'll be out uh next week or so but now that my throat's a whole lot better i can you know do those which is good man yeah youngblood is kind of next on my list i want to get that knocked out oh and by the way since we're talking about wolfenstein uh the quake con sale on steam they got some pretty good stuff they got prey for like six bucks they've got um the new order for like seven dollars the evil within two's 15 there's some good stuff in there and if you haven't played if you haven't played oblivion yet you gotta you gotta play oblivion it's legit amazing um two snacks from my ass um ten dollars from salad king to to your ass i guess uh cynic snacks as much as you're muted i know you appreciate that um and toss pot you can only have this if you tell us what you're a profession professatism of a professatist of there you go what's the question what's the question what are you a professor of uh i'm professor toss pot um what did you say professor of what that's not wrong i'm professor toss pot that's that's that's all there is to it uh that's all you need these these day and age isn't it all right fine just me i'll be in i'll be in a fucking video essay talking about psychology soon and people will you will be cited um and found some way to shoehorn some postmodernist theory into some bollocks i don't know on the topic of how mario ruined game of thrones mario put the coffee cup on the table it'll make sense now i mean it's just funny that that's such a minor issue like the stupid starbucks cup they actually made fun of it the covacog cattle a canal panel they had um everybody had a coffee cup where they came out yeah a rags did you know any salad can be a caesar salad if you stab it enough i get that that's true that's very true don't forget to get dan and davon efab also i could be meeting tom hiddleston charlie cox and jake jillian hall soon in new york city cool hmm what for an orgy what's what's the context what else would they be being them for i've heard the rumors about tom holland tim larrow that sounds like violence towards my people i'm not oh because he said salad king i guess would be yeah if you stab salad king enough you'll turn into a caesar salad king that makes sense true skittles made a giraffe milking commercial oh what's wrong with rhinos kind of racist but all right molla please tell oof oof why the news report on the tv screen in the mall in shazam is contrived and stupid i think we covered it if someone wanted to say that wasn't contrived i would that would be the most like that's why when he explained it to me i thought it was supposed to be a joke and like the comedy movie and they played off as a joke that oh you just happen to be right there as any of you guys played gris if not used this to get it it's only about three hours long between the best games of 2018 in my opinion also high rags hello um i've heard of gris but i have not played it i have not here in america we have what is called grits and you can kiss you heard of it it's my grits that's a saying right uh no but if you told someone to kiss your grits i don't know how they'd react something bot says in simpson so it has to be related to america somehow kiss my grits yes okay it's simpson's never been wrong about anything they predict the future regularly also high rags hello the mcu is the cooked bagel of cinema yeah i think they proved that most modern tv shows are basically serialized movies with episode lengths of 40 minutes or more well this is the thing he didn't consider a lot of context to how media is being made these days but the fact that we still have contained episodics tv shows alongside like really long narrative ones like i don't know you can't really crush all of these informations into a 12 minute video trying to explain why endgame succeeded where game of thrones did not it wasn't really 12 minutes because they had the wix ad yeah it was more like nine i guess generous um did tonald ev end up making a video where he yells uh i checked it out he doesn't yell but he gets more passionate than i think we've ever seen him so we will become really i told wolf about it and he was very excited um it's about how fifa is starting to make more money from its microtransactions than the sales of its games and so they're gonna be putting more and more into it i guess and he's very upset because he loves fifa oh yeah i can see no i i can see why that really would upset him yeah yeah it's gonna be great it sucks to see things that you really care about i just kind of die like that or at least get turned into something else and gree slow and all down sorry i'm late wasn't notified because i left my house right when it started i guess it's okay what do you think about in the metal gear series i've never played it i've only played five and i really liked it oh there you go we're the worst people to ask a parent well close to it anyway uh because i know that people fucking get to all that series and i've like yeah i've missed out on it completely uh when something needs to happen you get the predator you get a lot of stuff like definitely one of them though the pipeman has blessed the toxic brood very true we are blessed i feel i feel blessed that name's never gonna leave me nice to why would you want it to it's not a bad name a powerful name and you have a high standing in the law you could probably make some executive decisions really you're all fired this is my show now uh could you look at those women um that's probably referencing something in the video uh when movies wait what was it i don't know when were the women in the video i wouldn't pay attention maybe in the mobile ads there were some women in there oh yeah yeah in the mobile ad looking at women this is my favorite part when movies first came out people would sit and watch a person sitting in chairs for hours what does this dude on um how does he explain something like empire strikes back where you know like the narrative is not finished whatsoever and yet it was one big middle yeah it's one big middle i'm all i loved your ea survey video also hi rags hello yeah i work really hard on that ea survey video tough one lucky yeah pizza man bad oh also a high blessed pipeman and pizza man hello pizza man is burping right now he's currently consuming uh one of his brother is recrusting oh i told you he's got a digestive system he's gonna eat something and then he's gonna poop it out i'm so curious where the poop comes out watching captain marvel with my parents at the dawn scene i felt a small tear in his struggle for which i was accused of massiveness no yeah it's kind of hard to i don't know if i if i for whatever fucked up reason if i watch that movie for another time i don't know how i'd be able to handle it i'd be emotional i'd leave the room at that scene i think out of out of in solidarity with dawn i would surprise they allow it like on screen like i don't know if there's a rating above r but you need to have it call it the dawn rule the dawn missed you guys past two while they were live so here's a bunch more for alcohol and wherever else is needed oh i can have lots of alcohol in this program now it'll make everything more coherent this way i mean i listen to efab 24 hours a day oh if taylor listens to efab 24 hours a day then that means efab is just one giant middle no ending there's no beginning oh no if you go back to episode one if you go back to episode one it sounds like it's not really the beginning it's just a continuation of like you could watch them all out of order i know you wouldn't be able to tell the difference no progression no learning it's all a medal here's 20 more for recuperation costs oh i remember that meme uh that means more than never stopped writing star wars critiques he merely pauses endless man bad also hi mom who's who's the most man bad yeah that'll be the doobie but people say like walla never finishes a point endless man bad well they'll find something except when when our guys say it's like a meme but to other people who hate us it's like their legit way of saying that we're bad we're with with shells of men laughing at patrick willom uh i love the word nightmare for those people because i put out a tweet uh that just said like i i enjoy the creature they've created on that subreddit the the villain that is baller and how horribly e-fab is just like what is this craziness like this is closely resemblance whatsoever like oh this guy he seems like a really bad dude i hope i don't run into him in a dark alley have you ever been tempted to hop on to it and say behold we are we are your arch nemesis bow before us you shits uh so i think they'd be like you know we will fight you we will call the police we'll stop you you're destroying film criticism why didn't you just mess with their minds and say well there's a reason i always wear a mask and that's because i am patrick willams and this has just been a massive ruse wait it's pretty cool to have that power though so like we've you know no one's no one's seen your face except for a select few i don't want to see it um am i real am i just a meme that came to be this is from the profile fred the cosmic chicken i think we just came to understand you yeah you're always there you're always there we sort of only recently saw a light lalin versus the dawn does lalin really stand a chance i don't know if that's fair you need like all you need the entire e-fab rose gallery against the dawn i'd say uh richard a's asshole aka alan the plots don't exist nope there's no there's only one big plot that's it the alan is the anti-dawn wait is it alan alan or alan chat i can't remember how they spelt it in the video but just go with all three of them i think it's the i oops i uh solving some water i think it's the pretension wave sink all in yep now i'm sure he has a punch we think a veg's mid game i mean end game isn't the end got another film already it's not over not everyone died the universe didn't get destroyed so it's not over never over uh me grog like boobies in metal chair story yeah that's what it used to be man but then but then we regressed again into primordial whose artwork repeating alan reminds me of jp3's talking raptor and someone made a meme for it yep you're on the ball that's the link to super mario brothers you skip the middle levels with the warp zones he's not obvious with a lot of the meaning behind it and we took that for granted this alan guy sounds like a massive bundle of sticks speaking of which high rags good to have you back if i've just isn't the same when you're not a special guest it's true you're you are gone for 7 000 episodes that's crazy luckily there's 13 600 episodes of efab and we recorded 2000 today at least so not bad uh this that's pretty good this alan guy's all ends all all beginnings and ends no middles no middles we don't like the middles around here um grog thinks alan sound like filthy woodlover does not get grog's boulder is best and alan doesn't understand a lot about boulders he'd probably say that you shouldn't um shouldn't criticize boulders as well like you know even prehistoric art it's a tough life to live as alan you're gonna commit to those principles everyone's a million terminators predators and alien movies i know and it's horrible and they should all be murdered unless they're good films in which case yes bring more but we have not a good alien predator or terminator in oh i'm not even sure which one was the last good word type line alien predator terminator uh polls sucked since the second iteration of all of them i mean with salvation that bad no but i still don't like it it fucked with the timeline a lot um and i didn't like this weird human robot hybrid thing they did and i don't know i don't love it i don't hate it as much as the others though um because i'm trying to just sort of trying to think because i mean avp was terrible but almost in like a meme way i can enjoy avp yeah oh yeah i could probably watch that again and just laugh my ass off that would probably be a goody fat movies two parents give baby up for adoption is later they adopt a child if they don't realize it was the same child could they still love it oh wow this is like the track question in a way i think they would be told by a cosmic element perhaps a chicken that it is their adopted child they need to know like the universe can't allow that to happen hmm it's very interesting massives in the middle i love hitchhiker's guide to the middle middle school was a big turning point in alice like kill bill three or star trek tarantino plus jj did fine you asking which do i want to see or which do anyone want to see i don't really i don't kill bill needs a third and i don't really care about star trek so tarantino doing one doesn't even sound like it would make a lot of sense but i'll watch both of them because i like tarantino stuff yeah all right probably get some good tense negotiation scenes and then loads of blood splattering gun firing action yeah phasers just cutting people into pieces and zapping people and vaporizing them yeah and i love the use the n-word as well oh yes they start tricky a healthy amount this time able to super chat get on the bridge and yoga this time able to super chat but if it's not too much trouble i'd like your thoughts on my tweet at you arie game of throne season eight twitter handle hey that's a strange one i'll see if i can find it quickly um i don't know when or where to send this curious what you think feel free to discuss it also we want to be pondering about something i've never heard two things uh there are two things presented as very significant factors for denarius in regards to her taking king's landing the first is her losing her second dragon i can't really remember much how much losing the first dragon is discussed as a relevant tactical loss but it's probably major too uh the iron fleet killing a second dragon is definitely presented as a huge scale tipping against her though second thing is the men of the north joining her army the scene of her demanding sense to keep her word and the sending her man makes it seem like the an integral part of the invasion after we see that dany takes the city with virtually no losses having only one dragon almost completely by herself every scene even discussing her tactical preparation for the invasion feels incredibly hollow yeah you could have taken king's landing with more ease if she had done it at the end of season six when they're all heading over she could have just jumped over with drogon because they didn't even have scorpions at that point though she could have annihilated it with even more ease and it really makes a lot of the middle feel worthless but what do you want yeah hopefully that yeah i agree i love the middle of lesbian nun movie lesbian nun's movie oh it sounds like a porno i think that was me talking about uh adam kurtis and one of documentary goes on this weird tangent about so yeah all right uh middle no the story doesn't end here the end is just another middle one we must all wear un unashed togas to unhashed and unsached allen the white donald allen loke is the superior commentator me toga stinks me toga stinks his pubes are what we've are what we've to see the future what oh that's from fred the cosmic chicken okay oh uh is the middle just our great god speaks in such a deep metaphor is the middle just a concept like goliath is it the thing that spawned goliath is the middle the true enemy of the cosmic chicken i need ads i i think cynic would let you know that um or sorry not cynic um yeah yeah cynic snacks yeah i think you tell you that uh coliath is not just metaphor he's very very real very real however the middle might be metaphorical we will we're yet to see that yes steve uh he's not completely wrong about the final conclusion of endgame have you see what coming after endgame he's not completely wrong about the final conclusion of endgame have you see what coming after endgame don't understand he's asking us if are you aware of what's coming up after endgame so he's not really that wrong well i mean did anyone think it was gonna end with endgame no hmm uh yay my two favorite podcasts together mostly fantastic looking forward to listening later blessed be the pikeman etc etc he's got to get everybody death is not the end only the middle agreed oh no i touched the sims one time does that mean i'm doomed to an eternity in purgatory well you you've permanently paused yourself playing it but the thing is you didn't even have to play it to get to that point before you played it it was on pause that works wisecrack is like the child of movie bob and tonal um i don't see how movie bob is in there really because movie bob's kind of a psychopath wisecrack didn't seem to be a psychopath but we'll maybe maybe other videos uh it's a typical bad video it's not like he wants to murder people the ba there is the shortened version of blake alan i can officially confirm as an alan the goliath exists in the middle of bagels oh that makes a lot more sense now this video amounts to me hi me see nothing but middle everywhere that's a combo okay yeah wolf last e-fap me hi cheek said me hi yeah he was very high last year um a song whatever gets you through your e-fap a song of ice and fire will never end because george armand will never finish it is he telling me it's all middle is that what he's saying jesus star wall fandom and when disney kill it so it's all right um don't want to buy it off disney but you never know and then it just goes on again forever so it sounds like he's talking about heroine when he was talking about getting addicted to this stuff so that having a bad effect on you mm-hmm it applies to a lot of things humans do honestly the never-ending story smoking yes alcoholism self-abused the never-ending story ended that's true you'd think that would be the one that wouldn't end wouldn't you that that'd be the sort of placeholder for like how stories don't end you'd be like that'd be the one we'll make sure but nope even that one ended uh meme our love because they end why is he showing jojo about things ending it's on part eight and still going started 1987 and still going i think he actually referenced it as something that wasn't ending but i'd have to check the editing again just because game of thrones had a story that could have gone on forever doesn't mean that it was impossible to end it well it wasn't an easy task but to satisfy most people they only needed to come up with something that made sense people have unironically said it would be a better ending if they cut off the end of season six just let your imagination run as to what would have happened post that moment instead of showing us what they did so yes i agree remember that awful series with no middle that one called she noble um the whole thing was a middle i love that noble still exists you're noble i watched it all that night i just went through all the episodes i love it i pitched it that i was like i'll show you just one episode all right you're like okay no two no three no no the rest and i just went through the whole damn thing good shit uh did trump build the camp i'm not sure what that's referencing relation to the video maybe it was the camp from the walking dead game oh i mean if he was alive during a zombie apocalypse maybe does this game even exist on the app store is a good sheds it's already stopped like being so unpopular like i don't know uh great to see you on here again pikeman and snacks you two stay classy you stay awesome too molar and rags slice and dice do my best ever ever actually being classy oh yeah pretty classy pizzas are typically very classy like high-class people eat pizza i'm just got some high-end shit right there doing some pizza soup eating it ain't just any old ordinary food that can string to z's consecutively um play my favorite pie and slowed old boat we could have done that actually playing that slow the cosmic chicken will redeem us maybe at the end but according to this guy everything's a middle so will we even make it there i don't know um i think insults the human race has dethroned toxic brood i don't know that anything can dethrone toxic brood i don't know toxic brood is like all of us beautiful like you out there you're part of the toxic brood you're with us second you guessed on here and agree with anything we say in any way shape or form or even talk to us you're part of the toxic brood yeah i kind of feel that way about being an insult to the human race like i've only really interacted with twice if you interact with us twice you are an insult to the human race as well that's just how it goes well i apparently don't even have to interact with people at all to be like their buds so they're god of scott free i'm just a blessed pipe he's got the word blessed in his name these guys didn't appreciate my defending of you people as human beings so they banned me for being a sad dude and so the guys on that subreddit banned meme repository they did yep they sound like fun well this is the thing don't disagree with them opinion yeah you have to agree that we're all the worst pieces of humanity otherwise you're a bad person these are these are people who pride themselves on their ability to be critics they've said about us that we can't take criticism it's kind of like i don't know like you want to come on our podcast and talk about it oh that would be fun no i mean in terms of taking criticism we read it we read out the criticism live well they were they were just insults they were rigorous angelo merkel illegal opinions meme oh we'll get there one day i'm one of the massives that have yet to see the avengers end games boilers don't affect me though because i'll watch it in some years when no one cares also we all know why rags his throat was sore any who time to catch up why was it sore i'm actually kind of curious how my throat did get sore i guess he knows and he must have erased your memory so you would never know oh my goodness oh my god hey malrus rag pipe man and pizza face man love you all there's a special place in in the middle for wolf in my middle beautiful rag shag mary kill long man blessed pipe man or dick cheese pizza man killed dick cheese pizza man fuck long man and mary pipe man oh the beautiful ending for everyone except dick cheese man well that happened to somebody i always get killed i always get killed in these scenarios maybe it was the framing of you as dick cheese pizza man i probably threw you off yeah maybe didn't sound very appealing does it um debate rhino milk or herpes bathwater oh god for what for what exactly what determines the winner i don't know yeah you're trying to contract herpes yeah if you're trying to contract herpes then the herpes water might win out unless the rhino had herpes and even then i don't know if you can contract herpes from its species contamination no but then if it's just you know which is just better overall it's like i'll take the rhino milk it's got well regenerative power is your nutrient disease i believe it cures all diseases doesn't it well the chinese keep chopping off their horns for some reason there must be something good in there apparently they turn them into dick pills so maybe if you drink rhino milk you'll you'll have a dick like a rhino i don't know there you go do rhinos have big dicks i imagine they would because they're big i'm gonna go ahead and say maybe milk's gotta come somewhere like horses or something right um you should end this stream by reacting to the cat's trailer who here hasn't seen the cat's trailer oh no no no i mean i've already seen it so it's like you know i have nothing i have no investment in cats i had no say in the production of cats i didn't create it i didn't make it i have nothing going on with cats personally but when i watched the trailer i felt embarrassed for watching it i saw it and i thought what has science done yeah i had cringy face the whole thing i kind of had like the exact opposite to that in that i couldn't give a single shit about the musical story like i don't really know anything about it care but the fact that it looks so horrible kind of made me interested yeah well it's it's this weird uncanny sort of like it's not like a like a zootopia sort of thing where the animals are you know more like animals but they're cartoony and they're yeah they got that disney sort of style and they can express and emote and they could be really cute sea and all sorts of stuff these are just as weird uncanny valley sort of are they people are they like weird animals oh they creep me out why do they have tits with fur on them it looks like a kind of like a weird fever dream like you've cut some of our disease and everything's just yeah it's like they should be wearing i feel like they should be wearing clothes and if you gave them little outfits with bows and vests and things that would be so much better but fucking hell they they should be they should be wearing clothes it's very inappropriate for them to walk around it's freaky i could i could definitely see it being in like a top 10 films to watch Win Your Stone by 420.com or something it's it's unintentional win they'll win a 420 award next year for Derek Savidge get a raspberry that's for sure wait have you guys seen that no i haven't oh my days you know you know Derek Savidge yeah cool cats he started his own award award body basically uh he won biggest award ceremony in America um and he basically hired some like comedy club for the evening and everyone turned up i presume was just expecting a night of stand-up comedy but he turned it into his own award show for movies uh and he had like a juggler i mean a magician uh like loads of just like crap entertainers come on oh my god really he presented awards to like avengers and like a bunch of major like hollywood movies and just had random people come up and accept the awards on behalf of the companies and then he awarded himself best picture for his cool cat movie it's like it's a it's a real mess but it's it's kind of funny like a nice like a nice car crash what's interesting too is that cool cats are such a basic bitch for sona yeah but yeah uh if i was just gonna say if people wanted us to react to it you you basically got our coverage of it right there the cats thing so you don't need to see us watch that trailer and then i gotta worry about copyright too and it's just this whole yeah but who would claim caught who would claim responsibility for that the people who think it'll make money actually i don't even know if it will who i don't i don't even want to guess it's horrible uh if someone's on a movie will will cream cats oh the sonic movie is gonna kill it like so many people are gonna go turn out to see that for just out of morbid curiosity um if someone had the power to regenerate a lost limb will that limb that was last regenerate a clone of the person no i don't think that's how it all i think it's whatever it's like attached to the brain or the torso maybe it's like it's gonna be the brain or the heart right that's probably what the fiction would do and then you're like what if you half the brain or the heart then what happens well then you're dead you just die easy answer die hello rags hello hi if someone kneels in front of you with their mouth open do they deserve to end up with a sticky face asking for a friend well if someone kneels in front of me then like height wise the way this work i get what you're asking no no because listen you just assume you're assuming things because you need to get your mind out of the gutter you could be down there for all kinds of reasons such as such as i mean there's there's so there's so many it's hard to choose just one you know because there's so many reasons um so like a wisecrack it's like name a constellation is like oh i know so many i just it's hard for me to just say one you know because i i like them all so much and there's so many of them that i enjoy uh but yeah hi uh thanks for the zoomer chat you bet i mean i could have named one i don't know uh fine or ryan oh i mean that's the one everybody knows fine scorpio cancer which is this chat that's racism uh okay uh where is the gray doggy you will be back on the following yep it's out of a fiat just want to give rags my two cents i guess more can have the rest haha that's what it's funny because because no i'm sorry more or i put a very important straw poll in your server on the efab channel so this this straw poll is who is the big gay and the options are out of us four so do you guys think i should encourage such a poll or is that toxic to the toxic brood i think that's fine there's nothing wrong about asking people who they think the big gay is they're not calling them the big gay all right where is the poll i've posted it now in the chat i'm spamming it spam this guy moeller he's spamming the chat the vote on who you guys believe to be the big gay i am going to have to for ethics reasons excuse myself from voting in this poll i am completely objective i was able to vote on the correct answer oh wow who'd you vote for well i can't reveal that because it would tell everybody who the correct answer is instead of letting us know what everyone thinks the correct answer is yeah i suppose so oh this poll is lighting up oh dear rags oh dear rags rags oh dear i'm actually upset that i didn't get more votes oh you got plenty of votes um your second blaze still still plenty of games how does the dig cheese pizza oh to get six percent maybe maybe they they need to have the topping specified what are the biggest gayest toppings you can think of pineapple pineapple is a pretty gay topping yeah sausage is pretty gay sausage and pineapple why pineapple because it makes your cum taste better yeah i didn't even think of that why did you stick with that mushrooms no mushrooms are cool i i'm interested to know i always buy mushrooms it's one of my the i never forget to buy mushrooms when i go to the store the interesting part is pulled with anything is seeing yeah you really can't put just steak and other veggies and anything and with eggs fucking anything people are bringing up how i've how i read gay donut fiction oh yeah it's a mechanic true yeah that doesn't mean that you endorse it though uh i i do you what's gay donut right uh you know if you remember the story it was all about how gay donuts were persecuted and if there are any gay donuts watching this you have nothing to hide you know be yourself sprinkle yourself across the world um you will you will not see any harm from us we we endorse your lifestyle as a donut as a gay donut so yes and and there you go we are not toxic bad people so for those of you on reddits or whatever the bad mouthing these people we endorse gay donut rights i don't see any other progressives doing that do you exactly um i like the box it has one more vote over scenic snacks oh now it's drawn they really do think you guys share the big gay like it to an equal degree good to know i wonder if cj would have gotten all those or not what if we put wolf in this as well you never know let's let's just be glad they don't see that fan picture of me and snacks oh dear molesley you're awesome raggers i sent you an email blessed be the pikeman keep it longman malcom is the Loki of the middle all right 45 episodes later i finally catch up i wish we could like uh see a super chat for like in two two years in the future and just be like what the fuck does any of that mean oh like a long one that references a lot of things yeah yeah it'll be good um 45 episodes later and i finally catch up and i have to leave my house when i see your life it's okay there'll be another one it's fine this is the wolf by the way i just got into red letter media god bless don wilson and his wildlife preserve in iowa yeah i love red letter media john wilson they might i've got a couple i guess but they're one of my favorite channels right now just because there's nothing else like red letter media on youtube i i rewatch their stuff all the time i go into their best of the worst and i just i can rewatch those i don't actually care if they talk about films critically i just enjoy watching them hang out because they're like the most bizarre people ever but also hilarious they really meld together well they just bounce off each other so much and they're just funny and they could just keep it going anything with rich avans as well as just massively improved i chose that word specifically yeah because you mean to a large extent i'm saving up money for switches for cj and tossball don't worry mola oh is he already got one for you cynic snacks i already am in possession of one james is going to get all of us to have them and then we can do we can all play super smash brothers and then it'll be me rags and wolf this is you three uh james more is gonna buy you one easy now that's his that's his plan he he literally bought a switch for me wolf and rags yeah he's kind of crazy insane he's actually a little nuts i'm part of he's worried about him i think he's a lovely man and just he's he's a sugar daddy for a lot of people no i'm not completely unrelated no i'm building a new pc there you go james nudge nudge and you know it's hard getting the hearts and money for it yeah so if anyone wants to help oh my goodness james james more is like the reincarnation of the entire medici family i still think he's a saudi prince yeah they have a lot of money speaking of a versus mode vermin tide two is getting one when i don't know it's true yeah so high rags i think it's coming out with the winds of magic expansion which i'm extremely excited for i love vermin tide two these are my favorite games gel man of the toxic brood gel men yeah we are all kind of just shells once we did that first stream on patrick williams or third stream i don't remember which one it was we sort of just gave up on life we became shells pretty sad but people enjoy watching us shells so it's weird that hanging out with your friends and discussing your opinions and trying to come up with better systems to criticize things throwing around jokes and hanging out with people who will support you it's it's amazing how much that makes you an empty shell of a human being if only we knew how to live fulfilling internet lives and not be an insult to the human race yeah that was not even human so i mean anybody watches this is an extension of that an insult to the star wars fandom near 2000 yeah that's the worst we've got near 2000 insults to the human race watching us like Jesus that's fucked up guys we should all be erased a bunch of alright nazis yep i don't know why people dislike the soprano's ending so much i think it's great uh-huh i get it he cut out got the black i get it uh stream snipe sargon stinky wang is he streaming i guess he's i guess he's streaming now yeah streaming while efab is on what is he thinking denoyed what a beard mean loads meme cannon by rags oh no oh no um anime captain marvel is better than mcu marvel that's probably true everything is better than mcu marvel yeah hey rags can you sing akbar's theme for us again please love you guys can i sing can i sing akbar's theme yes there's actually a pretty funny meme video that will be shown soon enough uh i don't know if you remember what you said tentatively then yes i will you remember what you said akbar's theme was um um oh yes uh gaza yeets rockets so israel yeets hellfire missiles israel can't help it if gaza sucks at fighting palestinians are at uh the bath water of the midwest mid east you should have said middle east i wouldn't put a palestinian in my mouth microtransactions will lead to games only focusing on the middle so they'll never end alan was right or he was right uh watching he was trying to save us all along we should have listened we should have listened he was the hero we didn't deserve watching jack sainte say that your fans don't watch his entire videos and imply that he is taken out of context is the funniest shit of as of late yes no right it's great um and the fact that reddit said he made videos that are too long i was just like oh my gosh we're in the best timeline for some stuff i'm telling you man you made your bed and you gotta lay in it now did simpson's prediction the future or brainwash people into creating the future oh they predicted trump would be president in like the 90s or whatever did they make that happen do you think what did they predict yeah but i wonder how many other celebrities depicted as being a future president in cartoons i don't know what you mean like what is just him okay yep yeah you can't we gotta can't engage in the sharpshooter's fallacy i'm coming for that booty efap oh no mr rach do you know if slash where i can catch up on arch's nazi zombie dnd campaign and what it's called on arch warhammer's channel is it as simple as that or is he like got him enlisted yeah it's on the oh yeah it's on his channel and so far we stream it on wednesdays so they'll the episode should be there uh also take this money you deserve it you good boy oh oh thank you and we have scala grim or metatron as a guest i don't know either of them i'd be totally down for having scala grim on i haven't really watched metatron that much all right there you go um they played us like a damn middle hey snacks i don't know if you have seven one one in the uk it's a store people buy snacks from they stole your idea of a living snacks and they now sell living snack plush dolls i think of you every time i see the pizza boy what no fucking way buy one and send us a picture yes and where do you live you said that uh it was silo 101 just just at cynic snacks on twitter with that same comment silo and then you guys can figure out getting some pictures and see this plagiarism um i just realized that in the mcu where is earth in midgard dun dun dun the middle oh no been rewatching old e-fabs why is quintin such a dickhead well i don't actually know like i think he's he's sort of a case study yeah very fascinating one i like that it was you could actually argue that his our response to him is the first event in a series of events that just made him crash and burn not that we caused it just that that seems to be the way it goes because the trump thing happens soon after that right and then after that lots of other things and and yeah he's just um maul it would appear that that chat is really angry at you for not realizing that the shop is called 711 oh i said 711 right yeah oh no oh my god you weren't referring to 711 right i thought that was a actual thing over there we don't have 711 oh my goodness maul or no no 711 i read numbers as numbers what am i supposed to do well from from this day forth it shall be known as 7 the 7 would one guys in the chat need to change your fucking tone rags it reminds me of um a shit you show me with gold bookdoll to wherever he refers to 911 what is 911 the like the phone number 9 what he's like 911 was a national reminds me of that tragedy no mcdonald is a national treasure um but anyways guys got to work now have fun destroying whatever massive garbage you're covering oh we did oh you bet why does rags diss the drunken peasants ben's cool yeah that's a cool guy do you want to answer the first part of the question or these are why did you diss the drunken peasants oh because we're on their show and i will poke fun of the drunken peasants we had fun on their show though yeah they've had fun on just the way like their ads and stuff are structured is really odd almost like it's a radio show in a weird way i think ben is very much inspired by radio shows actually he said this we're uh we're spending a lot of his younger life so he's inspired to make his own show like that and then video is like a bonus thing and there's there's there's definitely influence of drunken peasants in efab funnily enough and we've had a lot of um bleed over like a lot of people say they watch both shows and i was just we don't cover politics that much or that many quote unquote crazy people but i mean there's an argument to be made for movie bob i mean they're not like crazy i mean if you actually kind of listen to them they're sort of insane but not like they're like high functioning crazy people yeah it's a wonderful little thing you know what does fried cosmic chicken taste like no one's ever eaten cosmic chickens i'm gonna say that's pretty difficult if there was an instance of that occurring i think we'd be aware of it yeah it seems to be a catastrophic event um the audio from this video will serve the goliath saga well speaking of everyone say see goliath please see goliath please see goliath see goliath see goliath he probably wants that for a meme video oh wait oh he meant like see goliath not see goliath please so i should say see goliath does sound like it's like a goliath that is yeah like a like you could have a lava goliath and a sea goliath yeah see goliath yeah it's gonna be okay we'll do it goliath king of the monsters okay we'll do a dramatic take shall we uh well like you want to do a dramatic go for it see goliath once more with feeling go for it wait who's going i've already done mine oh see goliath see goliath okay okay uh can we hear pounded by the pound oh that's that's a chuck tingle no um i guess pounded by the pound yes there's pounded in the butt by my own butt and there's also it's called pounded by the pound pounded by the pound the pounded by the social economic uh something changes of england leaving the european union it's actually got a longer title but it's a chuck tingle uh chuck tingle story about someone being that's a different guy being pounded by a pound coin but if you want some chuck tingle read on your podcast i don't know if there's any time but i do have some of his stories in my library is rags familiar with chuck tingle i think uh yeah you didn't you read out some of his book titles on one of your early podcasts yes uh we i read the gay dominance yeah more love when he was on the great british book podcast he got subjected to some of chuck tingles i think it was the sentient gay plane that jerks off onto someone and they get covered in cum and also the plane is actually a card player as well a really good poker player oh there's loads of fucking weird stories right themselves the chuck tingle cinematic universe sounds pretty impressive uh but yeah i don't know if people want want a reading to them it's up to you uh you guys should check out the 1996 movie island of dr morrow it's a beautiful mess of a movie val kilmer is a big doodoo and malin brando is fun i think i'm familiar with that i've heard of this movie you'll like redlar medium might have mentioned it not actually covered it somebody's mentioned it and talked about it so i remember i didn't oh wow i'm just looking at some screenshot here kind of like if planet the apes made with a with no budget yeah was that term in brando's career when he was going off the pen he soon is insane and he kept making weird demands of the director and pissing off the director who's he got very loopy he's in superman he's in one of the super movies he plays um superman's dad and he was absolutely fucking nutty kept winding up the director saying uh i want to play this role like i'm a cabbage and the directors just says to just just play the fucking well malin but he he he he was insane and absolutely he just wanted to be a vegetable that's all he wanted i don't know man i don't think you should take that away from anybody you know i think that that's important and i think people want to identify as a vegetable and you should who are we to say no who are we to say no uh rags you look good today did you change your hair oh yeah i did i um no i didn't it's the same i that's that's the thing because you just sort of let it do what it does that's why that's the secret it's my secret i just let it do what it needs to do and it's never let me down people don't think it'd be like it do but it do also mauler if you've got the star trek reading order i sent you because sure to read the addendum at the end as i forgot tng season six and seven oh me and me and mel if we watch star trek if uh we're just gonna watch it in chronological order like everyone else people recommended a viewing order for um uh clomors and me and for two we're just like we're just watching chronological order don't worry we'll surviv