Luck presents Hollywood. Luck's Radio Theatre brings you Ginger Rogers and Ray Malan in The Major and The Minor. Ladies and gentlemen, your producer, Mr. Cecil B. DeMille. Greetings from Hollywood, ladies and gentlemen. A star billing on tonight's program really ought to read Ginger Rogers and Ray Malan with Ginger Rogers and Ginger Rogers. The Accomplished Ginger plays three distinct and very different people, and half the time Ray can't even tell them apart. The cause of it all is the gay paramount comedy, The Major and The Minor, in which a unique script by Charles Brackett and Billy Wilder gave Ginger and Ray a delightful opportunity.  It's a story about a beautiful girl, that's Ginger, who runs out of money in New York and impersonates a youngster of 12, so she can buy a half-bed ticket home. You can see the possibilities when Ray Malan becomes our guardian for the trip, and, well, the story is full of surprises. And here's another story with more of the same, thanks to a lady here in California. I've been one of your audience since the inception of the Luck's Radio Theatre she writes, and I'm a Luck's toilet soap fan, too. My son is in the Army, and on the day of regimental inspection, he found himself without a first-aid kit, which fits in the first pouch of his belt. With true Yankee ingenuity, he substituted a cake of Luck's soap, which is about the same size and shape and hoped it would get by the eagle eye of the CEO. But as the general inspected the rear of the second rank, he stopped behind my son, pulled out the first pouch and remarked, Don't lose your soap, soldier. I'm glad he got off so lightly. Who knows, maybe the general uses Luck's toilet soap, too. And now, here's the curtain for the first act of the Major and the Minor. Starring Ginger Rogers as Susan Applegate, and Ray Malan as Major Philip Curley. You might have read about the Revigara hair treatment and scalp massage system back in 1941. It went something like this.  Is your hair getting just a bit thin on top? No need to be bald. Try the Revigara system. Call Maine 2000 and one of our skilled operators will call on you tomorrow. Have an egg shampoo in the privacy of your own home. The Susan Applegate is a skilled operator for Revigara, and a very handy girl with an egg. But in the wicked city of New York, a lot of a skilled operator is not always a happy one. There are, for example, slightly bald gentlemen, like Mr. Osborne. Mr. Osborne will call Maine 2000 at the drop of a hair. Mr. Osborne wears dandruff on his collar and his heart on his sleeve. Well, well, welcome in, young lady. I'm from the Revigara system. Yes, yes, I know. You're new with Revigara, aren't you? I just started this morning. Well, the Revigara system is certainly picking up. Where are we going to have the treatment? Oh, anyway, we can talk about that later. What might your name be, my dear? Applegate. Just Applegate? Nothing in front? Miss. Well, Miss, you make yourself comfortable. You know what I always say, no matter what the weather is, I say, why don't you slip out of that wet coat and into a dry martini? Dry martini, wet coat. Can I put the vibrator over here? Oh, the vibrator, yes. We're no hurry, are we? At least I'm not. You know, I really have a very lonely time here Wednesday evenings. That's when my wife goes to a first-aid class. I'm the only son far away at school. Not for a warm school, but I sometimes think it ought to be. Won't you sit down, please?  First, we're going to have a little drinky poo, and a little bitey poo, and a little rumba poo. No, no. First, we're going to have a little scalp massagey poo. Oh, now, please, we could make beautiful music together. We, too. About this temple? Oh, hey, that hurts. What kind of a brush is that, anyway? Hard bristles. Then we're going to get a vibrator treatment and an egg shampoo. I am not put that egg down? Certainly. Yeah.  What are you going to do now? Scramble it? Would you rather have an armor? Oh, now, Miss Applegate, listen. Let go of my hand. Oh, Miss Applegate. Let go. I have another egg here. Would you like a face massage, too? Now, now, Miss Applegate. All right, here. Why you... Why your chin? There's egg on it. Miss Applegate, I'm certainly going to report this. I suppose you'll realize what that'll mean. Yes, I know. The boot. And when you're making your squawk, you can tell them to pick up their vibrator with the rest of this junk. What's all the excitement? No excitement. I'm just bored. I take a two-weeks course. Learn all about hair and the circulation of the blood, and what do I get? An invitation to slip out of my wet coat into a dry martini. Well, by George, I think I will. Ah, that's the spirit of the problem. Keep away, Mr. Augburn. I'm through. After one year and 25 jobs in New York, Susan Applegate is signing off and going right back where she came from. Do you ever hear of Stevenson, Iowa? Of course. No, you haven't. It's dull. People there just walk around on two feet, and cars only have four wheels, and the grass just plain green. Who wants that? Oh, well, you... Who wants a fellow by the name of Will Duffy who runs a feed and grain store? Why not look around? Well, I came and I looked around from every angle, from the bargain basement to the Ritz Tower. I got myself glanced over, slapped around, pushed off, passed at. There's one thing they didn't get out of me. This envelope, sealed up in here from the first day I came, $27.50. What for? My fare back home. And if I miss the train tonight, I'll take the one tomorrow. Back to Stevenson. Goodbye, Mr. Augburn. Here you are, Miss. One day, Coach Stevenson, Iowa, in the 955, changed Chicago. With pleasure. Here. $27.50 on the nose. $32.50, Miss. $27.50, I know. I'm sorry, Miss. $32.50. Do you want the ticket or not? Listen, if it's $27.50 from Stevenson to New York, it's $32.50 from New York to Stevenson. It doesn't make sense. They boosted the rate, lady, last February. They did. Well, that's a fine thing for a big railroad to do. Okay, I'll take the bus. Good idea. Only the bus lines are on strike. Would you ever read the paper? Is this going on all day? Not just a minute. Step aside, Miss. Step aside next. Indian athletes. One ticket for me and one half for the little boy. Is he under 12? Well, certainly. Tell the man how old you are, Wilbur. No. Wilbur, tell the man how old you are. I won't. Nobody can make me squeal. I'm a corn crinkle secret operator. Oh, Wilbur. She's nine. Honest. All right, madam. I'll take your word for it. One fare and a half there. Yeah, but I'm not a kid under 12. Yeah, but what am I going to do about it? I mean, about your hair. All right, my hair. Well, that sounds okay, but what am I going to do about it? Well, I could go to jail. But I'd do anything to get out of this town. Station master, New York City to conduct your train number seven. Girl in daycoats traveling on half fare ticket to Stevenson, Iowa suggest you check age. I wrote a letter. Oh, here, sir. Half fare? Yes, sir. Would you kindly stand up? Yes, miss, you. All the way up, please. What do you think, Joe? I don't know. You're pretty big for 12, miss. Oh, yes, we all are. My whole family. Sweetie stock. My brother, Olaf is six feet two, and he's only in the second grade. When were you born? Next week. Oh, what year? Um... Oh, what year? Um...1949. 1929. What do you say, Joe? I don't know. Their clothes look okay for a kid. I'm talking about what's in them. He looks kind of filled out for 12. Oh, well, you see, mama says we all have some sort of grand trouble too in the family. Yeah, wait a minute. You say you're from Sweetie stock? Uh-huh. We're all Swedes in my family. Fine. Then suppose you say something in Sweetie. I want to be alone. Come back here. Come back. Cheetah, please. Come on, Joe. Just a moment, miss. Stop, stop there. She won't get very far. Stop, stop. What's the matter, child? Oh. Are you lost? Yeah, yes, uh, no, uh, sort of. I mean, you win the right card. This is card 64. Oh, is it? Yes, strong room G. Oh, G. There's no need to be upset, child. You see, they give each car a different number, each compartment a different letter. They have to give streets different names and houses different numbers so people can find out where they belong. Now, where do you belong? 78 North Elm Street. No, no, I mean in the train. I just think hard. What's the letter on your mother's compartment? Well, I'm not with my mother. I'm alone. Well, then where's your ticket? The man took it. The conductor? Then we'll have to ring for the conductor. Oh, no.  Well, but I don't need him. I know where I belong. I belong up in the daycoats. Only, I don't want to sit up in the daycoats. It makes me feel sicky in my tummy. Oh, well, well, maybe if I held your head. No, no, thank you.  Well, lie down, child. Quick, come on, lie down. Oh, thank you. But this is your bed, isn't it? Oh, that's all right. I have an upper.  Oh, no, no, please. I'll only stay five minutes. Oh, nonsense. You're going to sleep here? Huh? Why, certainly. How far are you going? Stevenson, Iowa. Well, you're all right for tonight. Anyway, I get off at High Creek, Indiana. Now, I'll just ring for the... No, no, no, please. Don't ring for the porter. Now, why, child? Because the porter will tell the conductor and I'm scared of the conductor. Why?  No, no, no, look like a woman. I don't get so excited. Tell me, child, what is your name? Susan. Oh, no, they call me Susan. All right, Susan. Now, don't you worry about the porter anymore. I'll make up the upper myself. Well, uh, I'm a very kind, uh...  Yes, of course. I know. Well, we can soon fix that. My name is Kirby, Major Philip Kirby of the United States Army. Major? What, Major Bowles? Well... Just about. You see, I'm a scientist and instructor to a military institute, teaching the young idea how to shoot. Well, I'm glad to meet you. How do you do? How do you do? Oh, that's all cleared up. Now to bed. Oh, just a minute, Major. Oh, look, Susan, please don't call me Major. Call me, uh, call me Uncle Philip, huh? Do you have an idea with you? Yes, Uncle Philip.  Do you really think so? Why, sure. Just sing out if you have any trouble with your buttons. Oh, I haven't had any button trouble for a long, long time.  Anything wrong? Uh... Stomach again? How do you feel, Susu? Susu. Come on there, Susu. Wake up, wake up. Good morning, Susu. Oh, huh. Good morning, Uncle Philip. Did you sleep all right? Yes, fine, Uncle Philip. Good. Is the train stopped? That's right. We're being held up. Held up? Oh, no cause for alarm. There was a storm last night and washed out a brick. Oh, where are we? Oh, about 30 miles from where I'm supposed to get off. What are you squinting at? Hmm? What are you squinting at? Oh. Well, that's an exercise I have to do. I've got a bum eye, you see, and I give it a 10-minute workout twice a day. Oh, I wonder about your eyes. You mean they're crossed? Oh, no. I wouldn't mind that. You see, as far as regulations are concerned, that wouldn't disable me. I'd just spend a week in Washington trying to get back into active service. Are you sure they won't let you? I don't know yet. So what am I thinking about? You've got to have some breakfast.  I'll get some coffee. Coffee? They don't let you have coffee. Well, just a few drops and a big glass of milk. I call it coffee. Ah! That's a nice cereal, huh? And I'm going to ask them in the club car to have a par-cheesy board. Then we can play it as plain goes again until I get off, okay? Well, about that, par-cheesy. You want to make a checkers? Well, after breakfast... What? Well, maybe you better go out and let me get dressed first.  You bet I am. Guess who came to rescue you?   You can't get him up in the morning. Philip, I'm coming in. Hello. Oh! Oh! I'm terribly sorry. I beg your pardon. I must be in the wrong drawing room. Or am I? Or are you? Why, that... That's Philip's coat. Why? Are you... Oh! Oh! Oh! I... You... Quiet, quiet. The conductor's not supposed to know. Nor I imagine am I. Oh! Hi, Pamela. Hello. How'd you get on the train? I was worried about you, Philip, darling. So Father and I drove 27 miles over suicidal roads to find out how my poor lonely fiancé occupied himself on his trip home. Pamela, what are you talking about? I happened to have been in your drawing room and seen that woman. Pamela. Well, don't stand there looking innocent. I suppose that's her breakfast you're carrying into her. Why, yes, I... Oh, how cheap. But Pamela, this is so insane. This is utterly... Yes, utterly, utterly. Oh! Pamela, come back! Pamela! Oh! Anything wrong, Uncle Philip? Yeah, a little nosebleed, maybe. That lady who was just here, was she your wife? Was she thank me in the nose? No, why? Good. I mean, I know what's good for a nosebleed. Oh, never mind, Susie. Well, this is what my mother does. I'm butting her collar. Some cold water down to back your neck. That'll stop her. This is all so silly. Oh, my fault, isn't it? Don't you worry about it, Susie. It'll straighten her. Well, now, lean forward a little. This may be a little chilly. Oh! No, no, stop! We'll be all right in a minute. It tickles! Stop playing! Pamela! I brought Father to... Oh! Oh! There. There, Father. You wouldn't believe it. Pamela. Well, look! My boy. My boy. My boy. My boy. I'm a machine. Wait a minute, please. I'll come along, Pamela. But Colonel! Shut! Oh, Jiminy Christmas. Holy mackerel. Oh, is that Uncle Bill? Just my commanding officer, head of the institute. I'd suspect your father-in-law. I was in hot water before, but now it's boiling oil. Oh, I'm so sorry. Don't listen, Susie. I've got to ask you a terrific favor. What? I'll have to ask you to come along with me. Come along with me? Yes, to the institute. Declare this thing up. Don't you see? The Colonel must be absolutely convinced that I... Well, you couldn't possibly understand it, Susie. You mean I'm too young? Yes. It's a sort of grown-up foolishness. Now, just accept it, please, and don't ask questions. Will you do it for me, please? Well, I'd love to. I'd love to go with you. I mean, you've been so nice to me. Oh, bless your heart, child. Now, about your parents? Well, it's just my mother. All right. I'll send her telegram. It'll absolutely put her at ease. What time? Well, how about, uh, let your daughter on the train and look out for her last night? Stop. We cannot proceed on account of high water. I'm taking her home with me. Stop. Stop. Uh, don't worry, sign curvy. Will that fix it? Well, it'll certainly fix mother. In just a few moments, Mr. DeMille presents Ginger Rogers and Ray Mulan in act two of The Major and the Minor. And now, here's Libby Collins, our Hollywood reporter, with a news item about a very special victory gardener. The gardener is Paulette Goddard, Mr. Kennedy. It may be news to most of our audience that Paulette owns a 70-acre farm in New York State. So just a few weeks ago, she took a special trip east to see about the spring plant here. And knowing Paulette, I'll bet that vegetable garden will be a success. Yes, the lettuce and the carrots ought to come jumping up fast just for a look at Paulette. And getting a look at Paulette Goddard is a project worth anyone's while. Don't you agree, Libby? I certainly do. She's a real beauty with her huge blue eyes, all-burn hair, and truly exquisite complexion. Exquisite is the word for it, Libby. And maybe we're not proud that it's luxe toilet soap that cares for her million-dollar skin. Yes, Paulette, the luxe girl. Incidentally, Mr. Kennedy, do you know she never uses any makeup before the camera but lipstick and a bit of eye shadow? Well, the effect certainly is gorgeous, especially when the picture's in technicolor. Now, Libby, why not be helpful by telling all the women in our audience just how Paulette Goddard takes an active lather facial? Well, it's very simple. She smooths lots of the wonderful creamy luxe soap lather well in. Rinses with warm water and splashes with cold. Then pats her skin dry with a soft towel. She never neglects these daily beauty facials. They leave her skin feeling soft as velvet, she says. Thank you, Libby. Remember, nine out of ten screen stars use luxe toilet soap, and the beauty soap has to live up to its name. It'll be the daily complexion care of nearly every famous star in Hollywood. If you haven't already done soap, why not make Hollywood's beauty soap, luxe toilet soap, your personal beauty soap, starting tomorrow? Now, Mr. DeVille returns to the microphone. Act two of the Major and the Minor, starring Ginger Rogers as Susan Applegate and Ray Merland as Major Philip Kirby. Susan Applegate, aged 24, alias Susu, the 12-year-old, has been conducted to the Wallace Military Institute to meet the faculty. In the conference room, she stands with her stomach turned out and her toes turned in as Major Kirby performs the introductions. Don't be afraid, child. It's quite all right. Very nice people. This is Miss Pamela Hill. How do you do, dear? This is Colonel Hill.  This is Major Dole. How do you do? This is the Reverend Doyle. Well, my dear. First, ladies and gentlemen, is Susu Applegate, who will be 12 next week. Hello. 12? 12 years old. What a happy solution.  Miss Hill is my fiancée, Susu. You know what that word means? Uh-huh. Can I go home now, Uncle Sela? Home all alone? All the way to Iowa with that stomach of yours, I should say not. But it'll be all right now.  We've got to make some arrangements. Please don't keep telegraphing my mother. Don't say the child was going to Iowa. That's right, Reverend Doyle, Stevenson. Listen, I've got to get home. I'm way behind in my homework and my teeth. The dentist has got to put the braces back. Will you let me make a suggestion? I'm going to Des Moines on Sunday to open a memorial chapel. You'll take Susu with you, Reverend? I have to. Well, that'll be too long. I... Do you see? My piano teacher. I'm just beginning my three-finger exercise. You're going to say at our house, Lannigan. I've got a little sister, just your age. But Sunday's three days off. It'll be three days. You'll remember all your life, Susu. This is a treat that doesn't come to one girl in a million. Does it have to come to me? Listen, Susu. You like boys, don't you? What boys? Nice boys, about 14 years old. Come out on the balcony. Come on. You see? There they are, Susu. How's that? 300 of them and all of them are yours. Mine? Oh, uncle. Lucy. What do you want, Pamela? Oh, Lucy. This is Susu Applegate, a friend of Philip's. She's staying with you. I know. Lucy'll take good care of you, Susu. I'll see you at lunch, dear. Hello, Lucy. Hello, you. I met Major Kirby on the train. I was awfully sick. Uh-huh. Oh, what a lovely room. Oh, look, goldfishes. Look at the ones with the flopsie-wopsie tails.  He wants his din-din. No, cut the baby talk, will you? You're not 12 just because you're acting like six. What? How old are you anyway? 20 or 25 or what? Why, Lucy, that's a funny thing to say. Is it? Maybe you can bluff the grown-ups. You can't bluff me. Bluff? What do you mean, bluff? That is what I mean. Your suitcase. I opened it when they brought it up here. Oh, the suitcase. It belongs to my aunt. And those clothes, too, huh? And a pack of cigarettes? Well, you see, save your breath. See all those books on that shelf? Biology. All biology. And they say you're no 12-year-old. Okay, you win. At least I don't have to play baby snooks anymore. Not with me, you don't.  Listen, I had to get home and all I could manage was half fare. $2? I don't want your money. Well, how are your children getting on together? Fine. Oh, Susu, your lunching at the office is missed. You'll find it too beguiling. Oh, is there anything in your suitcase you want fresh? No, no, leave it alone. She's gonna wear some of my clothes. Why?  Oh, glory. Well, I'm glad you two are getting on to life. Lucy, why didn't you tell your sister? Because she's a stinker. I got some cigarettes here. Smoke? Well, thanks. If you'll excuse me, I won't join you. I find adolescence makes you nervous enough. Say, is there a back gate to this school or a service entrance or something? Before. Well, I'm getting out of here as fast as I can. Oh, no, you're not. Why not? What is this? A house of detention? You're going to help me prevent a crime. A what? A systematic destruction of a human being. What are you talking about? Philip Kirby. He hates his job here. He's dying to get transferred to active service, but Pamela's seen to it that he'll never get it. Never. Now, now, I heard her say she was willing to follow him to Iceland, Trinidad, or any place he happened to be stationed. Ah, I suppose that's why she's moved heaven and earth and Washington to see he didn't get transferred. Pamela's picked out the husband she wants and she wants him right here at Wallace Military. Knights, cozy and beguiling. What do you expect me to do? I want you to help. No, sir. I got him into trouble. I've got him out of trouble, and now I'm beating it. I'm reporting to Miss Applegate. Miss Applegate? Yes, what? The cadet adjutant regrets that he cannot escort Miss Applegate to luncheon. The who? The cadet adjutant. Oh, well, that's too bad. There, um, there was some discussion about which cadet officer had precedent. It was finally decided by drawing lots. Oh, well, you didn't have to go to all that trouble. A winner was Cadet Lieutenant Anthony Wigdon Jr. of Company D. Well, you can just explain to the cadet lieutenant that I... May I assure Miss Applegate that she will find Cadet Lieutenant Anthony Wigdon Jr. a very amusing escort. And, uh, plenty good-looking, too. Lucy, do I have to? Uh-huh. All right. When will he be here? I am Cadet Lieutenant Anthony Wigdon Jr. Oh, dear. Hope you enjoyed your lunch, Miss Applegate. Oh, yes, thank you. Now, as I was saying about the Maginot Line, oh, excuse me. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Good afternoon. Miss Applegate may introduce Cadet Adjutant Babcock. How do you do? Cadet Captain Osburn. How do you do? Cadet Captain Shoemaker. How do you do? And Cadet Lieutenant Miller. How do you do? Now, uh, as I was saying... Say, what's the matter with those boys? Are they mad at me or something? Oh, no, just ethics. This is my time. Osburn gets you at 2 o'clock, Shoemaker at 3 to 4, Babcock 4 to 5, and Miller 5 to 6. Good glory. Look solid. Shall we sit down? How to get back to what I was saying. I always thought that the Maginot Line was all wet, didn't you? Well, kind of damp, anyway. The first lesson to be derived from this present war is the futility of stationary defense. Do you want to know how sedan was taken? How? Well, this is sedan. Oh, no. That's my shoulder you've got there. The weak point. I'll get your arm away. Now, a flank of the German army slung around through the Netherlands and Belgium. Then a Panzer Division smacked right through here. Hey, why you little devil. Hot stuff, huh? Then, of course, they took Paris. Do you, uh, want to see how they took Paris? Oh, no. Oh, come on. That was just kindergarten. Paris is a real thing. Let's go. I still got a minute. You had told me or I'll pinch your nose. Oh, don't be silly. Now, let's go. I'll start moving that German army again. I'll yell, Lieutenant. I'll yell, Miss Applegate. I've got a whole minute. Hey, hey. Easy there. Oh, hello, Uncle Philip. Playing games? Well, sort of. Where's your escort? Oh, yes. Where is he? Oh, maybe he tripped on his shoestring or something. Ah, youth, youth. Someone with a beard once said, youth is such a wonderful thing. It's too bad it has to be wasted on the young. Major Kirby, sir. Oh, yes, husband? Pardon me, sir. Miss Applegate, I was looking for you. Oh, yes. He's from two to three, Uncle Philip. Ah. And where are you taking her, husband? I had a little canoeing in mind, sir. Oh, that sounds like fun. Uncle Philip, you wouldn't care to come along with us. Well, you don't have to be polite when the elderly relative run along now. This way. Bye, sir, sir. Bye. Well, little lady, where have you been all my life? Huh?  Do you know what I see? What? Stardust. Lieutenant, you dazzle me. Captain! Oh, finally. You know, you and I could make beautiful music together, we two. Why, Captain, you make these things up out of your own head. Sure do. You see, I'm from New York. Oh. Yep. I've been kicked out of all of best schools in the East and won in Arizona.  Well, let's not talk about me. Let's talk about something else. Well, strategy, for instance. Fine. You know, I've got my own theory about the fall of France. Now, the first lesson to be derived from this present war is the futility of stationary defense. Now, here's today, and this is the Maginot Line. Here we go again. Well, it's about Susu Applegate. I'd like to speak to you about her. What's your idea? Well, I've been seeing her on the grounds of the boys and I'm a little worried. About the boys? No, about her. You can't suddenly throw a young girl among 300 cadets and expect... Pamela, I think you ought to talk to her. You know. Facts of life? Yes. No, thank you, darling. It's not fair to the kid. Somebody ought to talk to her, really, and I feel a lot more comfortable. Well, you talk to her, Phillip. After all, you're her own son. Look, Susu. Look, can I smell it, please? Oh, but look, you know, you're very cool. I mean, because I'm not interested in the ball, friend. It's so unfair. Wood can at least got to see Dan, please. No. Oh, Susu. Oh, yes, I'm comfortable. Susu, I'd like to have a few words with you. Can you talk to my officer moment? Well, I'd love to. Well, goodbye, Lieutenant Moore. And I do love the way you can wiggle your ears. It's not fair, that's all. Why can't I get to see them? Hello. Well, Susu, how do you like it here? I like it fine. Did you have a nice time this afternoon? Lovely, nice. Yes. Well, that's what I want to talk to you about. Sit down, Susu. Well, I suppose I should have spoken about all this before, but kids nowadays know so much, you know? Where's kids and all that sort of thing? No more than I do, really. About what, Uncle Phillip? You know about plant life and the laws of nature. I actually took your knowledge of such things for granted, you see? What things, Uncle Phillip? Well, vaguely boys, boys and girls. Does your collar hurt, Uncle Phillip? No, no, it's just a little type of sore. Where was I? Boys and girls. Oh, yes, yes. Well, you see, what I mean is, do you ever watch moths? Moths? Like butterflies? Yes. Not lately, I haven't. Yes, well, you know, when you turn on a light on a porch, they come at you from all sides, a lot of them, and then they bang their heads against it and cut their wings. We have screens on our porch. Yes, that's, you see, that's what I'm driving at, Susu. A light does attract moths, and all we can do is put screens and dim the light. Well, you can always go inside. Yes, you can always go...  What I'm trying to say is that you don't want to be a light bulb, now do you, and have moths all flapping at you and breaking their necks, pestering you? Now do you? No, it's never been a particular ambition in my life. No, no, no.  That is, if she's pretty. And with 300 moths in this school, well, they all just attract it, you see? And that's why we say a girl like you is attractive. Am I? Oh, yes. Yes, indeed. She has nice eyes and good straight legs and has a sort of bloatier hair. I was watching you in the mess hall this afternoon. Really? Yes.  Frankly, I'll tell you something else too. One day you're going to be a very charming young lady. When? Oh, six or seven years. Then you'll be a general and come to my graduation? Mm-hmm.  Kind of blurry, not a child anymore. Why, it's lovely. Just like a reflection in the water with a wind blowing.  I'm going to tell her. Ah, yeah.  No. No, no. Well, maybe if you made yourself a little less practical, or bit them or something. No, no, no, don't, don't bite them. Perhaps if you don't lose her long. Of course, Uncle Philip. Yes. Well, I, I think you've about covered everything, so why don't you run along and have a good time? Only, not too good. Bye, Uncle Philip. I'll try and be a well-behaved light bulb. Oh, brother. Hiya, Susu. Oh, hello, Lucy. What's the matter? You look all funny.  What's the matter with you? Nothing, I guess. Except now I know what you mean when you say adolescence makes you nervous. We pause now for station identification. This is the Columbia Broadcasting System. After a brief intermission, Mr. DeMille and our stars, Ginger Rogers and Ray Milan, will return in act three of The Major and The Minor. Well, here's Sally, and she has a touching little story to tell you tonight. Once upon a time, there was a young lady who thought she didn't have to bother about beauty care. She thought her skin would just stay nice, even though she neglected it. But one day, she began to notice that the confection was looking a bit on the dull side. She began to worry. And that night as she fell asleep with all the day's dust and makeup on her skin, she thought she was too tired to wash it off. She said, Oh, dear, I used to have skin as pink and white as the princess in that big nursery book of mine with the mother goose rhymes and pictures. Well, pretty soon she fell asleep. She was reading her mother goose stories again. Only now they were all different. Little Miss Mothick sits on a tusset thinking about her skin. It could look much brighter and pinker and whiter. High time her luck spatials began. And then along came Mary and her lamb. Mary had a lovely skin to help it stay that way. She bought some gentle luck soap and used it every day. And then a little boy named Jack said, Jane, be clever, Jane, be quick, and learn the active ladder trick. And all of a sudden, Jane woke up with these words ringing in her ears. There was a girl in our town and she was wondered why with luck the facial she became the envy of all I. And she said to herself, Oh, I can hardly wait for morning to come so I can get the muck's toilet soap and start my beauty facials. I'm never, never going to neglect my complexion again. And she didn't ever after. Thanks, Sally. I needn't point out the moral of that story. I'll just say to lovely ladies everywhere, if your skin isn't looking as fresh and smooth as you'd like it to be, why not get some of Hollywood's complexion soap, luck's toilet soap, tomorrow. Now, our producer, Mr. DeMille. After the play, we'll get up to date with the big careers of our stars. But now the curtain rises on the third act of the Major and the Minor, starring Ginger Rogers and Ray Miland with Leela Rogers as Mrs. Applegate. Susu the Minor has made a distinct impression on Philip the Major and vice versa. Outwardly, Susan may be an adolescent, but inwardly, a pulse is hammering an adult tempo. Briefly, Miss Applegate is falling in love. Listen, what's the matter with you anyway? I told you, Lucy, nothing. Then snap out of it. Here, listen, I want to read you something. What is it? A letter Pamela gave me to mail. I steamed it open. You steamed it? Oh, that's a federal offence, baby. It's too late now. Listen, Mrs. George T. McWhorter, Washington, D.C. Cornelia Darling, you beguiling creature. I understand your husband ran into my fiance in Washington. Philip is an impetuous soul who insists that war is impending and he must be in it. Such nonsense. The fact is he's essential here and I'm appealing to you to prevent this foolish transfer. Do be a beguiling angel and see to it that your husband knows the real facts. All of them. So much love, darling. Pamela. You see? Yeah. Got a match, Susu? What for? I'm going to burn this letter. Scorched earth policy. No, no, here, give it to me. Look, Lucy. What? How would you like Pamela to write Cornelia Darling another letter? You mean you write it? Or better than that? Why can't Pamela call Cornelia Darling on the telephone? It's an urgent matter, isn't it? Susu, do you think you could? Well, I could try. Oh, I always knew you'd help. Did you? I didn't. Hello, operator. I'm calling long, long distance to Washington. Yes. Yes. Mrs. George T. McQuaider, would you please hold the line, please? Hmm. Hello. Oh, Cornelia Darling. You beguiling creature. Of course it's Pamela. Cornelia dear, this is long distance, so you don't mind if I come to the point through you? Well, your husband has been an angel and promised to get my fiancé a transfer to active service. I can't tell you how important it is. Well, he's just disintegrating here. Oh, do talk to George and talk and talk and talk until he does it. Any transfer? Iceland, Trinidad, any place? May I depend upon you, darling? It's so terribly, terribly important. Thank you, darling. So much beguiling love. Bye, dear. All together now, fellas. Ready? One, two, three. Oh, Susu. Susu, Applegate. Yes, Applegate. This is the Garden of Honor calling your special convoy to the dance. You better call off the riot spot, Phillip.  Yeah, amazing the peel that kid has. Yes. By the way, I had a report from the telephone operator. Did you know somebody called long distance from you last night? A girl? You mean Susu? Well, it wasn't I, darling. Well, maybe she called her mother. No. No, not her mother. Quite a bit more peculiar. That's all I can say about now. Boy, Susu, the way you make with a feat, it's like dancing with a puff of wind. Thank you, Clare Dawson. Don't be so formal, Susu. Yes, dear. Yes, mother. Look, I've got visiting parent trouble. They're dying to meet you. But this is the third ball coming up, and I promise it to Major Kirby. Oh, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Oh, Mom. Mom meets Susu. We're that away. At least I am. Oh, Clare. That's good for Clare. How do you do, my dear? How do you do? And this is my father, Mr. Osborne. How do you do? Oh. I think I've had the pleasure before. No, I don't think you've had the pleasure. Have I? I could swear. Haven't we met someplace? Now, wait a minute, Dad. I saw her first. No. I'm sure we haven't met. I must have seen you. Maybe you're somebody's daughter. I don't know. I'm a sweetie stalk. Well, I sometimes eat smuggler's board. Oh, Al. Please. Well, excuse me, please. This is the third ball. Oh, hello, Susu. I thought you ditched me for a younger man. Oh, I'd never do that. You sure?  You shouldn't waste it on me. You don't want the stands? All right, but I'll warn you. I can't reverse. Major Kirby. Oh, big pardon, sir. A telegram for you. Excuse me, Susu. Thanks. Yes, sir. This is what I think it is. It's from Washington. Washington? Well, read it. Read it. Susu, I'm in. They've accepted me. Uncle Philip. What's that, Philip? Oh, bless you, Pamela. It came through. It's settled in the bag. Hold it. It's a transfer, and you get it for me, darling. You get it. I do think we should discuss it a little. It's rather radical. Well, how about a little damp night air? Come on. Oh, I'm sorry about our dance, Susu. Oh. You know, Pam, it's as if a great big stone had rolled right off my heart to plunge. And right on mine, Susu. Oh, not really. There was a little matter of our wedding plans, remember? I didn't forget that. Did you read that telegram? Report to Washington within one week? So we cance the elaborate plans, get a license in the morning, and the Reverend Doyle marriages around noon. Everything a little condensed is in the reader's digest for most parents. Pam, didn't you want me to get it? Didn't you help me? If I did it, it was a mistake. And I'm perfectly sure it isn't too late now. Oh, yes it is. My decision is made. Now, if you want to change yours as far as we two are concerned, well... Is that an ultimatum, too? No, Pam, it is... I guess it is. Good night. You're doing fine, Uncle Farrell. Well, thank you, Susu. You know, it's very funny. I've just been through an experience. I thought I'd break my back and weigh me down like a lad. And look at me. I'm filled with helium. I've got an aluminum heart. Oh, are you just reversed? So I did. Oh, if Miss Parrot could only see me now. Miss who? Miss Jean Parrot, my dancing teacher. I was 12 and she was 40. I had a terrific crush on her. Oh, that's an awkward situation. Ah, yes it is. I've always thought schedule about 20 or 30 is. Oh, nice. There was some kind of agent. You know, with different buttons for different inches, you press one and you're 40, just right for Miss Parrot. Is there a button label going on 12? No, Uncle Philip. Uncle Philip, this is my last night here. And there are so many things. I mean, there's one very important thing. Ever since I got on the train. Oh, pardon me. The next is my dance. Just a minute, please. Uncle Philip, do you suppose when this ball is over, at about 10.30, I can have a few minutes with you alone? Maybe right here. The guard of honor has to take me home, but I could sort of sneak back. Secret Zuzo? Please, Uncle Philip. Very well. 10.45 on this identical spot. You got it. The transfer at Kingham, Washington. It did? Yes, come on, help me. What are you doing? Getting a dress, a dreamy dress with some high heels, slippers and bright red lip rouge.  Maybe. Well, I hope he doesn't hate me when he sees me as I really am. What's worse, he may laugh, or even faint. Or he may say, you liar, why didn't you tell me in the first place? Well, it's better to tell him in the second place than not at all.  Where are you going? Back to where the dance was. I'm going to meet him alone there. Oh, Lucy, pray for me. My point would have made you curvy. I told him little Susu's stomach is upset again. And now maybe we'd better have a little talk. At your disposal, Miss Hill. But a lightning change. Let me see.  Let's drop the cat and mouse stuff, Miss Hill. I make a very bad mouse. All right, Miss Applegate. Briefly, Mr. Osborne remembered where he had seen you before. The, uh, Rivigera Company, wasn't it? Yes. He was embarrassed, but he thought he ought to protect his son. Are you protecting his son, too? Yes. I'm also protecting my fiancee. You don't love him? Leave that to me. The alternatives are very simple.  Somebody rather useful. Thank you for putting it on such a patriotic basis. There's a train tonight at 11.40.  No time for goodbyes. Well, I have no money. I'll advance it. Thanks. Any further orders? Just pack your things and go. Taking good care that nobody sees you. That's a rather foolish costume for a child of 12. We should be very glad I'm not 12. I was a very straightforward child. I used to spit. This is Catherine Applegate, Stevenson, Iowa. Mother dear, arriving noon Wednesday, love, Susan. I can't understand what happened between you and Will Duffy, Susan. I thought you were coming home to marry him. So did I, mother. And all you've done since you've arrived is lie there in that hammock and stare at the porch light. What in heaven are you looking at, Susan? The malls. Did you ever notice the malls, mother? Malls? Now, Susan, I've had enough of this. Another time. Oh, I'll get it. Hello. Who? Susu. Susu Applegate? Well, who's calling? Oh, oh, Major Kirby. Well, this is Mrs. Applegate. Yes, Major Kirby. Yes, my daughter's told me about you. Oh, I'm terribly sorry, but Susu, mother, oh, I'm terribly sorry, but Susu isn't here. Well, uh, well, where are you calling from? The station? Oh, I see. Well, I don't know. You see, this is rather awkward. The house is all upside down, and no, no, I don't think you'd better come, Major. I... Hello? Hello? Well, welcome to the world, Susan Applegate. I couldn't understand a word you were saying. Mother, now listen very carefully. A man is coming here, a major. He's going to ask you a lot of questions about your little daughter. What little daughter? You have a little daughter. What do you mean I have a little daughter? Mother, this is just something that happened on a train. On a train to me? No, to me. Susan. Now, we all came from Sweden.  No, it's just a little gland trouble, and we're all very tall. Oh, Susan, I'm going to call Dr. Taylor. Oh, mother, this is something... this got something to do with Washington. Don't try to understand it. Susan. Just do as I say, because it's going to be an awful mess if you don't. Susan. Listen, you're going to be the grandmother. I'll be the mother. Have you been married? Of course not.  And your glasses. Susan, Kathy, Applegate. Quick, darling. He'll be here any minute. Who? The man, of course.   I'm going up to the attic to find your grandfather's horse with. I am major, sir. Good evening, major. Mind your step on the porch. The light bulb is out. Are you? I am Mrs. Applegate. Oh, yes, of course. It's amazing. On the way over, I kept wondering how Susan's mother would look. I knew the dear resemblance, but this is amazing. The way my daughter described you, I thought you'd look rather more like General Pershing. Only eight feet tall. Won't you sit down? Yes. Thank you. Mrs. Applegate, I have only a few minutes between trains, but I had to stop by and see you. You don't know how fond I became of your daughter. Did you? Oh, yes, yes. What a wonderful kid. Those three days she spent with us, it seemed as if... well, as if spring had enrolled at the Wallace Military. We were all very sad. We had to take her away so abruptly. So, you're going west, major. Yes, San Diego for embarking. Going far? Overseas. Tell me, major, how was the wedding? The wedding? Oh, magnificent.  How nice. Susan will be heartbroken to learn that you were here and couldn't see me. Yes, I'm sorry too, but it is. But will you tell her that everybody sent they love? Lucy, Colonel Hill, Cadet Wigdon, Cadet Gold, just say companies A, B, C and D. And Mrs. Kirby? Mrs. Who? Your wife. Oh, Pamela. Oh, she didn't marry me. But that wedding you were just talking about. Oh, no, no, no, not me. You see, Pamela avoided making a great mistake. She married somebody much more stable. Oh. Yes, as I see it now, Pamela was absolutely right. No man in my position has any business to marry. Going away, goodness knows how far and who well is what I believe will be war. And yet many soldiers do marry. Yes, don't they? There was a young chap from my outfit on the train and second lieutenant had his girl with him. Going to stop off in Nevada. You can get married there in five minutes, you know. You can. Oh, yes. Then she'll take him to the troopship, goodbye kiss at the dock. Then a letter from him will be two weeks, maybe. No, no, no. That's too much to ask of any woman. I think you underestimate us, Major Kirby.  If there's only to hear what you've just said, Mrs. Applegate, I'm terribly glad I came. You will give Suzu my love. Yes, Major. I will. Goodbye, Mrs. Applegate. Goodbye, Major Kirby. Station Master, when do you say that train is coming? Two minutes. Thank you. The westbound due, Mr. Higgins. I beg your pardon. Uh, yes. Uh, what is your name? Applegate. Mrs. Applegate? Miss Applegate. Suzu Applegate? Susan Kathleen Applegate. You see, there are a lot of Applegates these two reasons. Yes, there are, aren't there? Oh, uh, where are you going? To the west coast. Only I'm stopping in Nevada. Nevada? To marry a soldier. That is, if you have none. A soldier? An officer. He's going to war so that this country will be spared what happened to France. You know, I have my own theory about the fall of France. Now, this is Sudan, and there was the Big Maginot Line. Suzu. And the German army swung through the Netherlands and Belgium. Suzu Applegate. And the Panzer Division smacked right through here. Suzu. For making the nation a little gayer tonight, our gratitude to Ginger Rogers and Ray Meran as they stepped back to the footlights with Ginger's mother. I believe this is the first time we've ever had a mother and daughter in the same place. CB and I talked it over beforehand. We figured it a good way to keep Ginger in line. You should be able to do that, Ray, for all the work you've done together. Working with Ray is getting to be a career in itself. Right after the major and the minor, I thought it was very shrewd and paramount to put you two in Lady in the Dark. But our audience may not know that that picture has been in work for four or five months. Four or five months? What do you mean? When I started Lady in the Dark, I was just a young lad. My arm was old as... Well, my arm was old as... Keep your eye off me, sonny. Why did you... Why did the picture take so long, Ginger? Well, there were a lot of creepy facts in it. Rainy picture with a photograph of a dry ice cream so that it would look as though I was floating on clouds. One of the dry ice numbers was a wedding with hundreds of guests and a 30-foot wedding cake. So Ginger went out and married a marine with two witnesses. I don't know about the cake. Oh, it was a small one, right? Marrying a marine is very popular these days. Where is he, Ginger? San Diego. And where are you? San Diego, as soon as this broadcast is over. But I'd like to say long enough to tell those who haven't heard about Luxoap that they're missing something really good. Or does everybody know that, Mr. King? They will sometime, Ginger. Luxoap gets around. Now, Mrs. Rogers, I want to ask you just one thing. When you and Ginger came to Hollywood, were you sure she'd become a star? I just assumed she wouldn't hear this, Mr. King, but I was probably the only person in Hollywood who thought she'd let it change. I wouldn't want another to hear this, Mr. King, but I didn't think so at all. But just between you and me and 30 million others, see, do you watch the play next week? Well, Ray, it's one of the screen's current hit. The 20th Century Fox drama, My Friend Flickr. And our stars will be George Brenton, Roddy McDowell, and Rita Johnson. It's a very simple story of a boy on a western ranch and a friend he loves most of all, the little horse Flickr. You'll hear Roddy McDowell as the boy, and George Brenton, Rita Johnson as his father and mother in this drama of the great outdoors next Monday night. It's a very beautiful story, Mr. King. Good night. Good night. The major in the manner was the major event. Our sponsors, the makers of Lux's toilet soap, join me in inviting you to be with us again next Monday night. And the Lux Radio Theatre presents Roddy McDowell, George Brenton, and Rita Johnson in My Friend Flickr. This is Cecil B. DeMille saying good night to you from Hollywood. Ladies and gentlemen, last week our fighting men lost many pounds of smokeless powder here in California. In New York they lost some anti-aircraft shells. They're losing such things every day, everywhere. And it isn't sabotage, it's just waste. The waste fats that housewives are throwing away. So save all the waste fats from your kitchen to make glycerin for high explosives. Take these fats to your meat dealer to start them on the road to victory. 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Has your crush been acting a little different around you lately? But you can't decide if it's good different or bad different. It can be difficult to figure out if someone is into you or not, especially if they're not saying it outright. A 2015 study found nonverbal communication has a huge influence on social interactions. Basically, it's like what Hitch says. 90% of what you're saying isn't coming out of your mouth. Nonverbal communication is huge when you're talking about your crush. So, what are you missing? If your crush likes you, let's talk about these six things they might do. This video is based on personal opinion and previous experiences. Everyone is different and can show affection in different ways. If you think someone is into you, always be sure to have a conversation with them. Let's begin. 1. They use protective gestures when they're around you. Have you ever been driving with your crush or partner in the passenger seat and had to slam on the brakes? Your instinct is probably to keep hold of the wheel and throw your other hand out in front of the passenger to help keep them safe. This is called a protective gesture. But they don't always need to be huge acts. It can be as simple as opening a door, walking on the street side or even handing you coffee while warning you it's hot. These small gestures show a special level of care and that they not only like you but they're also looking out for your well-being and want you to be okay. Most likely your crush doesn't do this for everyone. So keep an eye out next time you're in a group of friends with your crush. Do they doubt on their other friends too? If not, they probably like you. 2. They become a little bit of a copycat in the best way. Some say imitation is the best form of flattery. When you like someone or something, say a celebrity in their style, you tend to copy it. Does anyone remember when Avril Lavigne first wore a tie? So all the girls did too? It works the same way with your crush. If they like you, they might mirror the way that you speak, your energy level, or they may even start using the same words you do. But they're not trying to make fun of you. Subconsciously, they like you a lot.  3. They gaze into your eyes, but not too much. When you and your crush are talking, where are they looking? Eye contact is one of the most telling signs that someone is into you. Eye contact shows that you're interested and it can also make the person who you're looking at feel loved and attractive. As long as they feel the same. Now, we don't want 100% eye contact staring contests happening, which can actually be related to aggression or being territorial or possessive, and can make you feel super creeped out. But a little eye contact here and there can be a great sign that your crush likes you. 4. They laugh with, not at you. When you're talking with your crush and tell them a funny anecdote about yourself, their response can reveal any hidden feelings they may have. If they don't really respond to the story, they might not have been listening, which may mean they may not like you. If they use your story as a way to make fun of and belittle you, they definitely don't like you and don't sound like they have your best interest at heart. Now, the third reaction is what we're looking for. This is when they laugh with you at how funny the situation was, maybe with some lighthearted teasing and use this as a way to bond and know you on a more intimate level. 5. They don't use anything to block you from them. They actually keep pretty close. Whenever someone feels uncomfortable, a polite way to create distance is to use an object. This might be something like holding your books in front of you to avoid an unwanted hug, or maybe holding a backpack close to you as a shield in situations where a level of tact is needed, such as being at work and not being able to tell someone to get away from you. But your crush will do the total opposite. They'll want to use more open body language and remove any obstacles between you two. You'll notice they sit close to you too, which is a sure sign someone has a crush on you. 6. They call you with big news. It's 2022.  A text is usually preferable. But when someone you know calls you with big news, good or bad, that's totally different. They not only wanted to physically tell you, but they wanted to hear your reaction too. It can also mean that they wanted to tell you before anyone else, or posting it on social media. Do you do this with just anyone? Of course not.  It can be hard to put yourself out there when it comes to revealing your feelings, especially when it's a 50-50 shot. But hopefully you now have a few tools in your toolbox and can spot some signs that your crush is into you. If you spot some, let us know in the comments below. What do you do next? We want to know. As always, the references and studies listed are in the description below. And remember, keep an eye on site for more Psych2Go content. Until next time, thanks for watching.


But best of all, you're still there and watching the breakfast on Plus TV Africa. And well, we're in an age of technology about how far we're exploiting and exploring that sector of our economy. And we know that there are some challenges that are being faced by startups and all that. So today we're going to be looking at the development of technology, especially in Africa and the availability of funding. That's a very, very important thing. How can people who want to, how can startups draw funding and from where? And what criteria do they need to meet before they get all this funding? And we're being joined from Johannesburg, South Africa, the CEO of Founders Factory Africa in the person of Bongani Sittole. Good morning and welcome to the program. Thank you very much. And thanks for having us on the program. Okay. Well, like I said, it's an age of technology, but we don't seem to have exploited that section or that sector maximally, even though we have the brains in Africa and all that. So we'd like to start with a background on why you think there is a challenge at all to this technology, harnessing whatever potential are there in technology in Africa here. Thank you very much. I wouldn't necessarily frame it that there's a problem with technology per se, but I'd rather say there are a lot of challenges in Africa that needs technology. We strongly believe that employing the services of technology in the challenges that we see across Africa, that can help us to scale quite quickly and of course impact the economy. If you look at the development of China in 30 years between 1972-2000, the employment of technology in how they transformed China, we strongly believe that if we can take that path, particularly baking technology-led businesses to essentially drive growth and scale across the continent is one of the paths that we strongly believe that we can take as a continent to be able to unlock growth. Yeah, but anything that needs to grow needs to be homegrown as well. How would you rate the level of homegrown technology that we have in Africa? I'm not talking about the one we import to come and help us solve the problems that we have in Africa. So homegrown technology, how would you rate it? 100 percent, and that is really what we should be driving because plug-and-play in Africa doesn't work, and the reason for that is you can see how West Africa can cooperate with South Africa or even East Africa. So for that matter, we have to develop local solutions with local founders to find innovation that is relevant to that local market. So and that is basically a thesis of existence as far as vector-afric. We strongly believe that locally you need two things. One, the skill sets that understands the local market, understands the users, and backing them with capital to be able to help build those solutions. And that is the, you know, to support your statement, we need to be able to do that as Africans across major markets. Let's look at these issues in debt that are central to the development of tech and availability of funds for that sector on the continent. So if you look at the startup sector, we strongly believe that it's underfunded, right, in many ways. To be able to back these founders, you need to have a lot more capital. If you look at last year, we had over 8 billion that came into the continent to support tech-led startups. But when you think about the magnitude of the continent, 54 countries, you think about 8 billion. It's not enough, right? We need more capital. In comparison to emerging markets, and you look at the global capital that is coming to the continent. There's 1.2% of capital flowing into Africa in comparison to the rest of the markets. So the question that we need to be asking ourselves is how do we increase that pie, right, by having more capital to be able to support a lot more grassroots founders, to be able to find these challenges and build solutions, bring innovation to be able to increase the size of the economy through technology. So you are right. We need a lot more capital. And I think we're starting to see a lot more VC growth because of the innovation that we see across different markets in Africa. Yeah, but who should drive this process of this funding? You talked about funding coming into Africa. Do you think it's something that should be left in the hands of government? Or is it a private sector thing? And how should it be done? It should be both. Let me start with government, right? So firstly, if you look at the four major regions in Africa, which is West Africa, driven by Nigeria, Lagos, East Africa, Kenya, and South Africa, and also Cairo and Egypt, one of the things that governments should be doing is to create what you call startup acts. So a startup act is a way in which a government is formulating processes to enable and support innovation in their local markets. So I think if a government can be able to channel capital through creating regulation on how they support startups, I think that is the first thing that a government should be focusing on. On the private sector side, I think we need a lot more capital coming from corporate, including companies like ourselves who are investing and building trust into local founders to be able to bridge the gap between overseas capital and local markets. One of the challenges in Africa as an emerging market is really trust, right? So if you have companies like Founders Factory Africa who can be able to bridge and break the barrier of trust between local founders and overseas capital to be able to direct that capital to weights needed the most, is really what we need to be able to drive, of course, with the support of government and private sector. Well, we are in this part of the world, with the advent consumers of tech services and products. Unfortunately, most of them are packaged and imported. Is that the case where you are in South Africa? There are solutions that I can say, if you look at them overseas, you can definitely figure out how you package them for local markets. But for the most part, what we're seeing is groundbreaking innovation that's driven by local challenges and local nuances. And we want to support those type of technologies. I mean, there are a few businesses, especially here in South Africa, that have scaled where it was literally an entrepreneur who saw a technology somewhere in the US that can be packaged to the local market. But in order for that to work and scale, you need to be able to figure out how you're going to package that for the local market because it's definitely not a plug-in play. Because how Africa operates is completely different to the rest of the developing markets. But what we want to advocate for is really driving new innovations coming from Africa and figuring out the way or ways rather to be able to package these solutions in other regions in Africa. And hopefully we can export it to global markets. Okay. Well, you did mention something just before this response that you just gave now. You talked about your own company, for instance, aiding startups. So forgive me if we zero in on what activities you do in your company because everybody would want to take advantage of that and see how they can get some kind of funding. So when you say you support startups, what kind of startups do you target? Are they specific ones that can access the kind of funding that you give in Founders Factory, for instance? Yes. So Founders Factory Africa is a pan-African, early-stage investor alongside our studio support. What that means is that we focus on early-stage, meaning that we start from a founder having an idea and they want to be able to build a solution that can be scalable to self-customers right up until Pre-Series A. So that in the world of VC is what we call early-stage and that's our focus. So how we're supporting these founders is through the department of capital and hands-on support. Hands-on support essentially means that we deploy people to work with these founders on a day-to-day basis to essentially find a scalable business model that can be able to be exported into other regions. So as a founder, you come in, you get capital, you get product support, you get growth support, you get partnership support to be able to find a path to scale your business. And we are currently about 60 people across three regions. We are HQs in South Africa. We also have an office in Kenya and an office in Lagos. The reason for local presence is, again, what I said, bringing local solutions to local programs through local understanding. And hence, that isn't why we hire people in these local regions to support these local founders. Okay, so you're not targeting a particular country. You're not targeting a particular region. You're not targeting a particular kind of tech. It's general. So there's two questions in what you've asked. One is we're targeting, so we're a Pan-African company. So what that means is that if you think about West region, whether you're in Ghana, you're in Nigeria, we are able to help you as a founder because you've got presence in Ghana, sorry, in Nigeria. If you're in East Africa, whether you're in Tanzania or wherever, we have presence in Kenya. We are able to support that entire region. So the Pan-African presence means that we are able to support companies across Africa. That's the first. The second in terms of our target market, we started over the last four years in three sectors, which was fintech, health, and architect. We've just recently gone a little bit agnostic, which means that we're taking opportunities that we think can scale across Africa beyond the three sectors that we have mentioned. So if you are a founder building solutions that are scalable in Africa, talk to us. We could be able to look at that and perhaps find you. What sort of development are we talking about with your agritech? I'm very excited about that because agriculture is something I have a passion for and I know that we can do more in the continent with regards to food security. What sort of tech are we talking about in agriculture? There's a couple of challenges in the agriculture space and maybe let me start by saying that most of the African countries, the contribution to GDP in some instances, 40% in some instances, 60% contribution by smallholder farmers to their local country GDP. If you think about that, it means that we need to be able to build efficiencies to support local funds to be able to produce more. Secondly, there's a lot of wastage because there's no efficiency in how you move crops or produce rather from harvest to market. Number three is that we still struggling to figure out how to connect local exports to global markets. So what we are looking to do first and foremost is to be able to one, digitize the smallholder farmers to bring them into trade and connect that end to end journey. Secondly, to provide capital that is needed to these smallholder farmers because one of the challenges the smallholder farmers don't have data. So if they go to a bank and asking for capital to be able to produce more, the bank cannot support them because they don't have data to back their credit line. So we build solutions like that to be able to solve those type of challenges. One, to give them capital to produce more. Two, to reduce wastage. Three, to be able to build that end to end journey to bring produce to market in a faster pace. And fourth, lead to figure out if we can be able to bridge the gap between local produce and global markets. When you talk about supporting startups, to what level do you support? I know you've talked about giving them support but where do you get to before you say they are independent, they can stand on their own or do you monitor them for life? So again, referring to the stages that we focus on take into conversation BC landscape. So we focus on pre-seed up until pre-seed is A. So that is our lifetime spend that we focus on. Post that we continue to monitor their growth and should they need us to help them with expansion into other markets or they need us to connect them to additional investors both locally, meaning Africa and global. We are able to do that. So our goal is to provide that support end to end but the actual hands-on support of building product and finding path to scale that business. Typically we do that in the stages that I've mentioned. So we provide things like, they could come to our office, they have access to about five to seven people in different areas of the building startup and literally it's hands-on support is not advice. Okay, so what has been your level of success like so far? So the way in which we evaluate success is to, well, let me put it this way. We have invested in about 55 startups in our of the last four years and then it's growing when you're keen to invest into more business in African. And over the last five and a half years we've started to see success and how we evaluate in that is the growth of valuation of businesses. So if we see that your business was valued at five million as an example, two years ago and our support has pushed your valuation up to 15 million, 20 million, that's how we are evaluating how we are supporting these businesses. Secondly, we look at customer growth and retention because a business is not a business if that revenue line is not growing. So if we're able to see that increase of retention and customer growth and also an increase in valuation that is a signal for us that the support structure that we provide into these businesses is actually quite favorable to the African farmers. Okay. Well, the tech sector is booming and so is our youth population on the continent. How excited are the youth in tech as it concerns agriculture? Are they involved in it or are they just more interested in tech as it relates to? Robotics. Robotics, cell phones, computers and all of that. Are they interested in tech as it relates to agriculture? So let's talk about what technology means, right? For us, the way we think about it technology means to an end, right? What that means is that you have to find a problem, you have to figure out what scale would look like and how to support more customers. Then you employ technology that is relevant to that problem. In some instances, AI could be a path. In some instances, it's digital transactions. In some instances, it's being able to connect agro dealers to farmers. In some instances, connecting farmers to the market. So when you talk about technology, it's a path to scale. In itself, it means to an end, right? So you have to find a right technology for the right problem. So in some instances we see founders trying to employ the buzzwords like AI in wrong problems. And the challenge with that is you never find a path to scale because you are employing a different or rather an incorrect technology for the problem that you have found. So what we strongly advocate for is one, figure out the problem, understand the customer's needs and figure out which technology would help you to scale. Right? So we employ technology in that lens as opposed to technology in itself being a driver. Well, you are Pan-African, but we are interested in Nigeria right now. So tell us the experience you've had in Nigeria and tie that, sorry, I'm giving you double barrier questions as it is. Tie that to, if you were given an opportunity, for instance, to talk to policymakers in Nigeria to make tech grow more than it is right now. What would you tell them? Interesting question. So if you look at the growing markets in Africa, Nigeria, probably followed by Egypt, they are the leading markets right in terms of that option of technology. Also in the VC space, if you look at number of tech-led businesses across Africa, Nigeria is one of the leaders, right? So that means that Nigeria in itself has seen a need to be able to bag, you know, tech-led businesses. And there are 55 businesses that we have over 30% of our portfolio is actually Nigeria. So in coming back to your question in terms of how we can be able to support a lot more founders in the Nigerian market, we strongly believe that a tie to the government and enabling policies for, you know, for startups to be able to thrive from techs to how you open up bank accounts, to digital transactions, to how we provide digital skill sets to unlock growth for these founders is actually quite important. And if you look at on the Nigerian market, there's a couple of activities that we've started to see where the Nigerian market is actually creating pathways to collaborate with, you know, policymakers in the technology sector, including companies like ourselves to find a pathway to unlock growth through tech-led businesses. So we're excited about what Nigeria is doing and hopefully can be able to be or rather at least build a blueprint across Africa in terms of how to support tech-led businesses to unlock growth. Okay, well, I'd like you to talk to startups in Nigeria or in Africa because they could be watching from any angle. Okay, so startups in Africa and, you know, things they need to look out for, things they need to avoid if that is possible because this is a lucrative sector of our economy right now and the future is tech. And so we need words of encouragement, words that will guide the people rightly when they want to venture into it. There are some people with ideas that are just under their pillow, they've been there for a long time and they don't know how to go about it. So just a word to them. So that's why we are here, right as Founders Factor Africa and I strongly believe that we need a lot more support structure like Founders Factor Africa across the continent that can, you know, build platforms to enable these founders to be able to build solutions. So in answering your question, as a founder, I think first and foremost, if you have found a program that you strongly believe that you can be able to solve, then look for companies like ourselves, right? Come in, you know, come share your ideas with us and let's figure out if we can be able to support you shape that into a viable business model.  So founders have to look for opportunities to essentially build their businesses. First and foremost, do they have to make sure that they don't necessarily employ technology to grow, they need to understand their customers, figure out what their customers needs are and then look for technology to be able to support. You know, that vision to unlock scale for that chain too, to solve for that local market. So in dealing with your startups, across the places where you are site situated, may I know the number of girls or women who are enrolling or who are getting involved in this? Are they sharing enthusiasm in tech? As they're... So, yeah. Yes, so that's actually a good question. When we actually look at the VC space just globally, right? We see that less than 5% of women founders are being supported. And as founders of factory Africa, we are making it intentional to actually support women. If you look at the space that you love, which is AgriTech, a lot of it is actually driven by women in the continent, right? There's a lot of participation in Agtech space. And it is our goal to be able to support women across the board and increase the participation. Our current statistics in our portfolio with the 55 businesses, in comparison to global statistics, we are over 20% in our women led founders. And that for us is exciting. And we want to look pathway to actually double that number over the next five years and how we can actually bring a lot more women into the space and supporting them. We know that across Africa, there's different limitations, challenges, cultural barriers that actually prevents women to participate. And we want to be able to find ways to break those barriers and be able to provide a lot more capital to women and support them so that they can be able to be in power with their male counterparts. Okay, Maureen, you've heard that. You had to bring women into it. It's suspected. We'd like to thank you, Mr. Sitole, for coming on the program today. It's really enlightening. And for the startups out there, please just look for Founders Factory Africa. Or if you have opportunity to get in touch with another company or another group that can give you the opportunity or that can give you the funding or can guide you, then do that. Which means, from what Mr. Sitole has said, which means there are opportunities all around. You just need to tap into it. But today, we found Founders Factory and we're hoping you are going to take advantage. Mr. Sitole, thank you so much for coming on the program. Thank you for having us. I really appreciate it. And before we go, we leave you with our quote of the day. Yeah, okay. The technology you use impresses no one. The experience you create with it is everything. The technology you use impresses no one. But the experience you create with it is everything. That's from Sean Garrett. Okay, we'd like to thank you for being a part of our show this morning. The last guest there was Bongani Sitole. And we're hoping that you have learned something and you are going to take advantage of that. Let's do it again tomorrow. My name is Nyam Gulu. I'm Gaji. I am Martin. I'm in no music game. Join us again tomorrow.