Before we start, I'd just like to address one thing, and I always like to recognize our outstanding employees with the city of Sheboygan. And tonight, we have one that works down in the IS department. Joanne Decker, and she got the US Air Force E-Award for her outstanding work with the Army. She's been out for, she's back now, but she was out as a reservist, correct Ed, for a year, and we got a letter from the Pentagon. Addressing the medal. So if anyone would like, take a look at it, come on up and read the letter, look at it, and this will be put in her file. I think that's a great accomplishment that they do that for our employees, so give her a hand, Joanne, if you're watching. Oh, okay. She's out of town. Okay, with that, we'll start the 19th regular meeting of the Common Council. Pat, what'd you call the roll? Eberg, Doyle, Manny, Moody, Perez, Ports, Schultz, Steffen, Devin Akron, Teevin Akron, Vanderbilt, Longerman, Warner, Winninger, 16 present. Corms present, Alderman Van Akron. Thank you, Your Honor. I would move that we approve the minutes of the previous meeting and as entered on the record. To move to the second that we accept the minutes of the past Council meeting, the same stand approved under discussion. Here are none, all in favor? Opposed? Motion carried. Pledge? Almond. Alderman Baldwin, would you lead us in a pledge, please? Forgot. And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I'd like to just recognize one of our Alderman, Alderman Van Akron's wife, Nita, is in a hospital, again in Milwaukee, correct, Don? She's doing better. Don told me this evening she possibly will come home this weekend. Possible. And everything's going all right now. So I hope everything works out well and she's home with us soon. Thank you. Okay, next thing we have the hearing. We have a hearing tonight to rezone property located between New York Avenue and Wisconsin Avenue between North 10th Street and North Water Street and North 11th Street. Any interested parties wishing to be heard on a hearing? Any interested parties wishing to be heard on a hearing? Alderman Schultz. Thank you, Your Honor. Make a motion to hearing be closed. Move to the second that the hearing be closed under discussion. Hearing none, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Public forum panel. Okay, consent agenda. Everything from 19-1 through 1914, Alderman Van Akron. Thank you, Your Honor. I would move that we accept and file all ROs, accept and adopt all committee reports and all resolutions and substitute resolutions be put upon their passage. Move to the second to accept and adopt all RCs, accept and file all ROs, pass the resolutions and substitute resolutions. Under discussion, Alderman Warner. I thank you, Your Honor. I would like to poll 19-8 for a separate vote. Alderman Warner. First, Your Honor, I would like to read what this resolution is allowed so the public is aware of what it states. And then I have some comments. Okay. This is a resolution reaffirming the October 7th, 2002, unanimous vote of the City of Sheboygan Common Council to forward the City-County Coalition proposed agreement for Ambulance Service to Orange Cross Ambulance. Whereas it is in the best interest of the City of Sheboygan and its citizens and visitors to ensure the provision of emergency ambulance services through a written agreement and whereas the proposed agreement is similar in scope to the contract honored for the past decade which ensured the provision of dedicated, verifiable and guaranteed ambulance service. And whereas the provision of quality ambulance service requires the guarantee and agreement provides to maintain a prescribed availability and level of service across the entire City of Sheboygan. Whereas without a legal binding agreement, the citizens of the City of Sheboygan will have no guarantee of continued ambulance service and without set agreement, the provider may discontinue service without notice for any reason at any time. Now therefore be it resolved that the Common Council of the City of Sheboygan reaffirms the need for an ambulance service agreement and views set agreement as a necessary component to ensuring the health and welfare of its citizens. Be it further resolved, the Common Council of the City of Sheboygan directs the City Attorney to forward the proposed contract to Orange Cross for further review and make the document public. Under discussion, Your Honor, this resolution does reaffirm the October 7th decision of the Common Council to move forward with and enter into agreement with Orange Cross Ambulance to provide emergency ambulance service to the City of Sheboygan. We believed then and I believe now. It is very important to the health and safety of the people we represent that this city have an ambulance provider that is legally bound to provide service. There are many reasons why an agreement to provide service is essential, but foremost is the very lives of our citizens. We need an agreement that guarantees ambulance service. Not one that simply says, oh yeah. By the way, we will provide the service for you just like always. What kind of dedicated and guaranteed service is that? If you say you will, then you should have no problem putting it down on paper in a way that legally binds you to do so. In the proposed agreement, the provider could not simply discontinue service. They had to provide advance notice allowing us to prepare for their departure. Without an agreement, they can discontinue service at virtually any time. In the proposed agreement, the coalition was guaranteed the use of the ambulance's and equipment for six months if the provider decided to discontinue service. This is the same as in the previous agreements. In the proposed agreement, response times for emergency 911 calls in the city of Sheboygan were to be six minutes. The same as the last 10 years. Without an agreement, there is no response time requirement. The provider can respond whenever and however they want. A major reduction in service. In the proposed agreement, there was a review process, a process to address quality of service. Issues and a way to solve service provision problems. Without an agreement, we will get whatever the provider wants to give us. I believe we need an agreement that provides the same benefits and level of service that the contract of the last 10 years provided. This council agreed with that last October 7th. And I asked for your support in sending the proposal to Orange Cross, asking one more time for them to reconsider. Let's give the proposal to the public and the media. I hardly believe we are wrong in wanting to guarantee the existence of reliable ambulance service for our city. Thank you. Alderman Schultz. Thank you, Your Honor. I don't know what Alderman Warner's point is in making all those comments right now. He just came from a meeting where the contract or a proposed contract was talked about and Orange Cross did agree to take it back and they are going to review it and come back and respond to the city. So everything that he said, Orange Cross is hopefully going to address and hopefully we will get a contract. It's unfortunate that it has dragged out this long. It should not have, but we can't turn back. Hopefully, I agree, we need a contract. It's in the best interest of the city and for our citizens. We do need a contract with the ambulance service and hopefully they will come back with it. I think we need to, again, as I've stated before, we need to look at our service providers as partners, we can't look at them as adversaries and I think in the past, some of that has happened and we need to get away from that and I hope we will, we are and we will and I hope Orange Cross also does look at us as a partner as we look at them as a partner in providing good ambulance service for our citizens. Thank you, Alderman Schultz. Alderman Doyle. Thank you, Your Honor. When that vote was taken last fall or whenever it was, that followed a committee of the whole meeting and perhaps I'm hard of hearing, perhaps I was led down the Primrose path. At that meeting, I read the contract after Steve explained it, I was reading through it and it was clearly that the language was, I felt highly unfavorable to Orange Cross and lay down parameters that they couldn't meet without great difficulty. I raised that question at that meeting and said, is Orange Cross really buying into this contract? And I don't wanna quote people because that was quite a while ago but the gist of the reply was that yes, Orange Cross knows about the conditions in this contract and it's largely acceptable to them. Well, in the events that followed, I found out that Orange Cross largely wasn't in the negotiating room that much that invariably they were in the hallway and second, they turned down that contract which means that it was not acceptable to them and so I certainly agree that we need a contract but I don't think that the proposed contract is necessarily fair and that we need to get back and negotiate fairly with Orange Cross. Thank you, Alderman Doyle. Alderman Orner. Thank you, Your Honor. First, I would like to answer Alderman Schultz. The reason that I felt this necessary is because I think the public has missed some of the factual things that have taken place over the past year and a half and it actually has been that long that we've been talking about an ambulance contract. It didn't really pick up steam until last spring but that's natural as it's getting closer. I guess it was a surprise to many that Orange Cross decided they did not need a contract but it was not a surprise to everyone. They have made statements in the past that they would provide service even without a contract as at least as long ago as last June.  I kind of think it was. It's my belief that their goal all along was to get out of the contract and to do so by splitting the coalition in two. Thus making it look like we the coalition that could not agree, which we did, we came together on it. Orange Cross knew right off that the contract was virtually the same as the one that we lived under the last 10 years with some verbiage changes and some improvements in service that they had agreed to all along and up to that point. I believe we need to have an agreement that guarantees that ambulance service will be provided to the people in the city of Sheboygan. Not one that just says that we'll use your 800 megahertz radios and we won't and we'll hold you harmless if you drive our ambulances for us but we need one that says you will be here to provide service to us. So I think we should send this back to them. That doesn't mean that they can't be changed or negotiated but I think they should take another look at it. Thanks. Thank you. Alderman, Stefan. Yeah, speaking on this, I do think that we've got to send a message to Orange Cross and to the community in general that we want this contract and yet we haven't changed. We're not asking for anything like Alderman Doyle thought.  We're not asking for the sun that stars in the moon here. Like Alderman Werner said, cost containment, guaranteed times and locations of the ambulances. I mean, I have two teenage sons. I compare this to them coming home from school one day and say, dad, don't worry, we're gonna go to school tomorrow. We're not gonna tell you what school we're going to.  And by the way, leave your wallet on the desk because I don't need an allowance anymore. I'll just take whatever I think is fair and I need it. That's what Orange Cross is telling us. We'll take care of things we're trustworthy and they have been, but you can't judge us. You can't control the costs. How many citizens out there watching tonight know that if Orange Cross has their way, they make their own prices. There's no control. They can charge whatever they want and what's the alternative to the guy with the heart attack? I'll argue about it later on. I just think we have to come to an agreement with Orange Cross. They have to see that we want a deal. They want a deal. I apologize. Comments earlier on, thinking the county wasn't with us. I've been very impressed talking to people from the county. They're on board. They're on our side. They see this as a joint thing with Orange Cross. And I think they're with us. They understand the problems. I think we need to get Orange Cross on board and see if we're done playing games. We want a contract. Thank you. Thank you. Alderman Van Akron. First of all, a question. Steve, a lot of the discussion we had about with Orange Cross and the contract proposals that they gave to us were in closed sessions. Are we able to talk about that now? So yes, and it might be a long night. You know, I don't know about the details of what took place in the meetings, but certainly the document itself, I think, is out there. The proposal that the coalition submitted to them. I don't see any problem with discussing that. Their counter proposal? Even their counter proposal. I don't think that they've ever said that that's not public information or not for us to share that with anyone. You know, that's their counter proposal, so I'm somewhat hesitant to talk for them, but they submitted that to the group in a closed session discussion. And I guess, I don't know that I can answer the question as to whether or not their counter proposal is something that they'd be willing to share with the public. I don't see why not, tell you the truth. Could somebody tell me what he said? Can I talk about it or can I talk about it? I think you can talk about it. All right, thank you. Much to what Alderman Steffen said and Alderman Warner said, and again, for a long time we've been sitting relatively quiet about this contract because of the closed session issues, and I'm concerned about that, because we should be discussing these things in closed session, but I think since the contract negotiations have been broken off and literally have stopped, I agree, but I wanted you as a lawyer to say that, that this should become public than what we've been talking about. Alderman Doyle, I disagree with you that the last contracts that we've sat down with Orange Cross, Orange Cross has been in those closed sessions. We went line for line, right down every line of the contract with Orange Cross. They came back with a proposal of what they thought those lines should be, and then we went through line for line again with what they had thought and what the coalition, again, not the city, the coalition, the county and the city group, thought to their response to our response. That's called negotiations. They were sitting right in there with us, so there is no myth out there that they weren't involved in this. This is their document that came back from our proposal with their concerns, and we addressed those concerns, which ones we thought were worthwhile, which ones we didn't think were worthwhile. What we wouldn't agree to is just what Alderman Warner said, is we were trying to protect what we felt was important in this contract being response times, which is one thing they were walking at and did not want to have to be held to the response times. We felt that was important. That's quality of care. Also the locations of the stations. The locations of the stations, they came to us saying they wanted to be able to put those ambulances in any location, any site, whether it be one site, two site, or three sites, that was their option. We didn't feel that was right. We thought the people in the south side still needed protection, like they've been doing for the last 10 years, and this is why I disagree with you. All these things aren't new. These were all in the contract, in the last contract, correct Steve? The last two, the last, we've had two five-year contracts. The last, well, that's 10 years. The last two five-year contracts, we addressed the location of these, because that is important. Why do we put fire stations way on the south side, way on the north side? Even I can figure that out. It probably got better coverage by doing that. They didn't want to do that. They came to us asking for that to be removed. We wouldn't do that, because of what we felt was that was important to us. The response time was important to us. The rate increase, we weren't saying they couldn't increase the rates. What it says in that contract is, if it's going up, you have to come to the coalition, and they've done this for 10 years, come to the coalition, and just explain why you need a rate increase. They have done that every year and have never been turned out. They have always been able to come and explain their rate, and they've got it from what I understand. Some, is that correct? That's what we were asking. We've actually sweetened the pot on our side, saying for the, I think it was the cost of living, up to the cost of living, they didn't even need anybody's approval, or to explain it, they could just do that. And anything above that, they then would come to us and just explain why they needed it. And if they could come and say, this is why I need it, because our costs here were reasonable, we've been reasonable for 10 years in doing this. So that's what, from my understandings, and I've been in every one of those, those were the major hang-ups that we had in the major differences. Those differences weren't anything that wasn't already in that contract. The major differences in the wording of this contract was making up the city and the counties and who represented how on the board. And that board is just, isn't even a binding, it's just recommends back to the city and the county. That was the only major, that I saw unless I missed something, major difference in this contract, but when it came to actual things that Orange Cross had to live up to, they signed that same contract 10 years ago. And five years after that, with those same stipulations in there. So I was surprised in the fact that this didn't happen. No controls, as Oliver and Warner said, how do you now, we don't have the right to even question. If it takes them 35 minutes to get an ambulance, believe me, that can happen. If it takes them 35 minutes to get an ambulance to do, what do I do about it? Right now, I at least have a board that I can go to and say, I've had a problem here. I called an ambulance and somebody didn't show up for 35 minutes and we've called them three times. Can you look at that? You don't have that now. You have absolutely nothing that can look over that. They have total control of whether, now they have a EMS plan. I think the EMS plan says that they have to respond to most of their calls or within two minutes beyond the scene and that's hard to understand. And 25 minutes to be there. So under their EMS plan, they have 25 minutes to respond. If that's reasonable for you, allow them to follow the EMS plan. I think it's to our, and I agree with continuing this, not just a little bit earlier as Alderman Schultz said, strategic planning, voting unanimously to reinforce that we think it is important to have a contract. What that contract is, we have to sit down and negotiate with Orange Cross. Alderman Schultz is correct. We did give Orange Cross some language again, but that's negotiations. If they want a negotiation with us, we're willing to do that, but you gotta have two people at the table to negotiate. So if they want to negotiate a table, and no negotiate a contract, we're willing to sit down and talk to them about that. We were willing a few minutes ago, we've been willing last month, we were willing a month before that. But not having a contract, I don't think is acceptable because the people that we represent have had a contract that's exactly what we're talking about here for the last 10 years. And it's worked well because we've been able to hold them to those times and to the things that we thought were important 10 years ago, the things we thought were important enough five years ago, and the things that we're reassuring today that we still feel are important. And that's all we're asking for. We're not saying we're gonna move it or anything, we're saying we want, we think as they say, they don't think they need a contract, we as city aldermen are saying, we think it's important to have a contract, and we wanna work something on it. Whether with them or whoever, we think it's that important. That's all we're asking. Thank you. Alderman Schultz. Thank you, Your Honor. I don't know how much you wanna discuss this evening because Orange Cross is taking it back, they're going to re-evaluate it and then come back to the city. I disagree with almost everything that Alderman Ben Akron said except when he said that I was right. That's the only part of it. If we had the same contract and was given it to Orange Cross and said let's extend this contract for five years, I think they would have done it the first day that the first meeting we ever had. Orange Cross has been at several meetings, closed session meetings, but there's been numerous meetings, closed session meetings where Orange Cross has been excluded. And I don't think that was fair. I think one of their concerns, and it's a major concern, and I think it's a realistic concern. As the contract and as discussions went on and as the contract was worded, I think the Orange Cross had the fear that the city's goal is to have a contract with Orange Cross but train our fire department and at our convenience move the ambulance service into our fire department. And I think seriously, I think that is the agenda of some folks up here on this council floor. So the Orange Cross is looking out for their welfare and the city's welfare. We're looking out for the city's welfare, not necessarily Orange Cross's welfare. And that's where the conflict comes in and I think we have to give them a fair shake. I think they understand and realize, recognize that we need a contract and hopefully they will come back with something that's agreeable to both of us. It's not as negotiations go, nobody ever comes out with exactly what they want. Everybody has to give a little. And I think we do have a chance to do that, Jeff. Thank you. Alderman Vanderwillen. Vanderwillen, Will. Thank you, Your Honor. The Orange Cross publicly said that they didn't want a contract, that they were too good for a contract. So why are we still negotiating with them? If they don't want this contract, then game over. They don't want a contract, we stop negotiating, we stop talking. And that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Alderman Doyle. Thank you, Your Honor. Well, I'm sympathetic to Alderman Van Akron and Warner, their stories sound wonderful. I am bothered by the fact that we were offering them exactly word for word, the same contract and they rejected it. That doesn't sound feasible. There's three perceptions out there in the community. The first one is the community wants Orange Cross. There's absolutely no doubt about it. The second perception is they believe that the common council is trying to give it to the fire department. That's the second perception. The third perception that's out there is that the city is writing a contract that Orange Cross can't meet so that the city will find some reason to reject the contract. I think if we're serious about doing what the public wants, we do have to negotiate with them, but I think it has to be in the open so that the truth comes out. Thank you. Thank you. Alderman Warner. Thank you, Your Honor. This is the third time I'm speaking. I know that. So for a lot of order, I ask your patience with me. As far as Alderman Doyle's comments, it is true. We did negotiate with them in good faith and the points that they brought back that they had concerns within the contract are points that were all approved in the last two contracts. The things that we added in as changes, the major things as far as training our firefighters to work at a higher level on scene, especially when the ambulance takes a while to get there was things they have agreed to. They approved that. They didn't even question those facts. And as far as the fire department, and there are a few of that, this common council on October 7th voted unanimously to send the contract to Orange Cross Ambulance, not to the fire department, not to Peratec, not to Gold Cross or any place else. So I think that's a good point. Thanks. I'm still in order. I disagree with Alderman Sholes and Doyle again. Did I say that we had to word for word? No. I said the important things like the response times and the station locations and the things that we were asking for, the things I believe they're walking at are exactly word for word for what we had in the past. That I think is correct. That I think we haven't changed in how we've asked for those locations. So they've signed that contract. You saying that we're trying to set them up to fail, I don't believe that's true. I think we're doing something. And if they feel that that six minute response time, I heard them again tonight saying that they respond in most cases in three minutes, a three and a half or something they said. If they feel that some of these aren't reasonable, you know where they can address that at the committee and say, we need six and a half or seven and talk to us about that. If that's their concern and if that's what they are publicly thinking is that they can't meet some of the things we're asking them of, tell me what they are and let's talk about it. But I haven't heard that from them. In their requests that I have that Steve so eloquently said I can talk about now, those aren't what they're addressing. Isn't the response times and the locations, they're addressing other things that are. So that's not what they're, in most of the cases they've adopted that same language. There's a few other things that they're looking at that are trying to change. I think like Alderman Werner said, we haven't been negotiating with I don't know whoever Manitowoc is, Gold Cross, Blue Cross, Red Cross, whoever they are out there. We haven't been, we have as a coalition, I thought for the first time in the long time I've been up here in the city council, the city and county have really worked hard together and have come up with a good work in relationship. Probably one of the best ones and I think you'd agree, Bear, that we've had in a long time with working with the law committee and we've gotten that same respect from the law committee as Alderman Steffen said and the same feeling from the law committee that we have done this jointly in the best interest of what we thought was best, negotiating with Orange Cross, not the fire department, not outside people, trying to make a contract work with Orange Cross.  We could discuss this to death tonight if we wanted to but I do wanna say two things. We did have a good meeting tonight, probably one of the best we had in two, three months with Orange Cross and I look forward to having more meetings and moving forward and I think we will but we all have to keep cool heads on it. Had good discussion from Chief Zier tonight, had good points, Ed Sirick, Mike Hutts, all the Alderman in that meeting, it went very well. I think we're on the right road but we just have to take our time and make sure that everyone's comfortable when we do sign a contract. You're right, there will be a contract. What city should we go? If not with them, with someone. So we did agree on that tonight. So with that, Pat, would you call, you don't need a roll call? I think you're gonna want one. Okay. Suggested. D-Berg, E-Berg, Doyle, Manny, Moody, Perez, Moody, Perez, Ports, Schultz, Steffen, Deven Akron, Teven Akron, Vanderbilt, Wongerman, Warner, Wenninger, Bowman, 15, I is 1-0. Motion carried. All right, everything, oh, maybe not. Alderman Doyle. Thank you, Your Honor. I'd like to pull 1911 and make an amendment, please. On the backside, Taxicab driver's license, the bottom 150, 864, we'd like to have that removed and held for future meetings. It's moved in second. Are you referring to that back or are you just holding it? Referring back. Referring back to committee, right? That particular person back to keep you asked. That license number would be referred back to committee, under discussion. Hearing none, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. New motion to accept. Now I need a new motion. Alderman Doyle. I need a new motion to pass it as amended now. Yes, sir. I move that the ROB passed as amended. Moved in seconded that the ROB- RC. RC be accepted and adopted as amended. Under discussion. Hearing none, all in favor? I need a roll call. Eberg. Okay. Doyle. Aye. Sorry about that. Manny. Aye. Moody. Aye. Perez. Aye. Portz. Aye. Schultz. Aye. Stefan. Aye. Divenakren. Aye. Tivenakren. Aye. Vanderwheel. Aye. Wongerman. Aye. Warner. Aye. Weninger. Aye. Bauman. Aye. D-Berg. Aye. 16 ayes. Motion carried. Through 1914, if you put up on this passage. Hearing none, would you call the roll please? Sure. Doyle. Aye. Manny. Aye. Moody. Aye. Perez. Aye. Portz. Aye. Schultz. Aye. Stefan. Aye. Divenakren. Aye. Tivenakren. Aye. Vanderwheel. Aye. Wongerman. Aye. Warner. Weninger. 16 ayes. Motion carried. 1915 to be referred. 1916 through 18 to be referred. 1919 will lie over. 1920 through 35 to be referred. 1823, NRO by City Planning Commission, recommending rezoning property located between New York Avenue and Wisconsin Avenue and between North 10th Street, North Water Street, and North 11th Street. All of them done by NACCEN. Warner. Warner, excuse me, I'm sorry, but that's great. I thank you, Your Honor. I make a motion to accept and file the report of officer and pass the attached ordinance. I move to sign the file, I roll and pass to general ordinance under discussion. Under discussion, Your Honor. This is relative to the rezoning of property located between New York Avenue and Wisconsin Avenue and between North 10th Street and North Water Street and North 11th Street from Class UI Urban Industrial to Class UI Urban Residential Classification. This is the former Kingsbury Brewery property, which is owned by the redevelopment authority at this time and the redevelopment authority is soliciting proposals to develop the property of single family, condominiums and or apartments. And as a former industrial site, it's zoning classification needs to be changed. Thank you. If there's another discussion, would you call the roll please? Manny? Moody? Perez? Ports? Schultz? Steffen? Dieven-Akron? Teven-Akron? Vanderweal? Wangeman? Warner? Weniger? Bauman? Bauman? D-Berg? E-Berg? Doyle? Sixteen-Eyes? Motion carried. 1833, a resolution by Alderman Teven-Akron, Schultz, Perez, Doyle and Steffen, transferring appropriations in a 2002 budget. Would you like to take the next two also? Sure, thank you. 1834 is also a resolution by Van Akron, Schultz, Perez, Doyle, Steffen, transferring appropriations into the 2003 budget. And resolution 1835 is a resolution 223-0203 by Alderman Van Akron, Schultz, Perez, Doyle, and Steffen, transferring funds to establish an estimated revenue and appropriations for sale of a fire truck to a fire department, vehicle maintenance account. I would move that all three resolutions be put upon their passage. Move a second to three resolutions be put upon their passage under discussion. Hearing none, Pat, would you call the roll please? Moody? Perez? Quartz? Schultz? Steffen? Deven-Akron? Teven-Akron? Vanderweal? Wangeman? Warner? Weniger? Bauman? D-Berg? Doyle? Manny? Sixteen-Eyes? Motion carried. 1636 by Alderman Warner and Teven-Akron, amending the municipal code relating to room tax to increase room tax from 6% to 8%. And on that document, Alderman Warner and Van Akron, we do not have a starting date. He's gonna make an amendment after he makes a motion. He'll make the amendment? Okay. We need that. Make a motion to pass first. Thank you, Your Honor. I make a motion to pass to General Ordinance. Thank you. Moved in second to the pass to General Ordinance. Under discussion. Under discussion, Your Honor, I would move that we amend the document. On section two on the back page of your document, in the last sentence, it says, all ordinance or parts thereof in conflict with the provisions of this ordinance are hereby repealed to the extent of such conflict, and this ordinance shall be in effect from and after its passage and publication as of April 1st, 2003, and the as of April 1st, 2003 is what we need to add. Correct, Steve? Your Honor, I'd recommend having a start date that provides a little lead time and also the payment and the reporting for room taxes on a quarterly basis, so April 1st would be the start of the next quarter for the room tax. And Rich isn't here, but discussed this with Finance Director also, and he recommends April 1st as a start date. I'm not, Your Honor, I'd make a motion to pass the General Ordinance as amended. You don't need it? Amendment, here you go, thank you. Been moved in second for the amendment under discussion. Hearing none, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. On that, Your Honor, I would make a motion to pass the General Ordinance as amended. Been moved in second to pass the General Ordinance as amended. Alderman Doyle. Yes, Your Honor, that room tax was going to be designated for a certain purpose, certain business purpose, and I was 100% behind that. What would happen in the event that that business situation would not work out since this tax was going to be used for that purpose if the purpose no longer existed? What would happen to this tax money and so on? Because my concern, it would just be going into the general fund and would not accomplish anything for development. Address that, Mayor. We have a current contract with the Chamber of Commerce on having a certain amount of money go to the chamber. It goes through 2003, 2003, 2004. And provides that the chamber gets 6% room tax. If we raise it, the city could retain the difference between the 6% and 8%. And that would be what we'd be able to do. We'd be able to retain that, but still under the statutes, have to use most of that money, roughly 90% for tourism promotion purposes. Even if the city retains more money, we still have to use it for tourism related and promotion of tourism related purposes. Statute provides that we can use a certain percentage. Basically 10% in our circumstance for administration and non-tourism related purposes. That percentage would be the same as it currently is. We'd currently retain 150,000 of the total we collect. We still have to use a total of 90% of all we collect for tourism promotion and development. All right, Alderman Dyle. Yes. Thank you. Pat, would you call her old, please? Perez. Ports. Schultz. Steffen. Deven Akron. Teven Akron. Vanderwill. Wongerman. Warner. Winninger. Bauman. Dieberg. Eberg. Doyle. Manny. Moody. Sixteen eyes. Motion carried. Okay. That D, I forgot to get back to you on that today about starting in April 1st. I apologize. I know you were thinking January, but like Steve said by late time, it's taken a little while, so just so. 1746, General Ordnance by Alderman Warner, Doyle, Vanderwill, and Manny. Add stop signs on Alabama Avenue and Kentucky Avenue before entering South 15th Street and South 16th Street. Alderman Warner. I thank you, Your Honor. I make a motion that General Ordnance be put upon its passage. Moved in second to Ordnance be put upon its passage. Under discussion. Under discussion, Your Honor. This is an ordinance that relates to stop signs so as to add stop signs on Alabama Avenue and on Kentucky Avenue before entering South 15th and South 16th Streets. This actually came to our Public Protection Safety Committee on November 27th and with the holidays. It was held up a little while before it got through the council. But at the present time, there are yield signs on those two streets. And this keeps them in line with the streets to the east and west of it. I drove by there today just to refresh my memory because I haven't been over there since early December. And this just replaces four yield signs with four stop signs. It's a very quiet pocket, quiet area, but it would keep it consistent with what's all wrong on the rest of the street. So we recommend passage. Alderman Mooney. Thank you, Your Honor. Since this is our district, I was just wondering if there was a recent accident history or something that this is being changed? It seems just from Sergeant Tarkovsky, it wasn't a communication from one of the citizens, Betty, but it is something that community policing unit driving around in that area just recognizes as something that would benefit the neighborhood. Okay. Alderman Warner, Sergeant Tarkovsky, do you want us to see if you need him to address that or? Do you have anything to add? We move back to the second floor, second. Move to the second to open the floor under discussion. Hearing none, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay, thank you, Your Honor. The reason for the stop signs is it brings a little bit of uniformity to that basically four to six square block area. One of those intersections in particular is uncontrolled, basically came to our attention both through community policing and Mike Hotz's office and concern from one of the residents there. Although there is no accident history which would warrant the actual installation of the signs, it just brings some uniformity to that general area. And as a neighborhood which does not affect any basically heavy traffic or anything, Police Department felt that this would be a good change for that area. Thank you. All right, there's no other discussion. Would you call the roll please? Quartz? Schultz? Steffen? Aye. Deven Akron? Aye. Teven Akron? Aye. Vanderweal? Aye. Wongamon? Aye. Warner? Aye. Wieninger? Aye. Bauman? Aye. Deberg? Aye. Eberg? Aye. Doyle? Aye. Manny? Aye. Moody? Aye. Perez? Aye. 16 Ayes. Motion carried. 1936 will go to Public Protection of Safety and we'll go to Finance. 1938 will go to Special Committee on Risk Management. Steve, other matters? 1939 is an arrow by the City Clerk submitting an application from Miranda and Leon Schleider for a change in zoning classification property located on the south side of Superior Avenue, west of North Taylor Drive from UR Urban Residential to SO Suburban Office Classification. Plan commissioned. 1940 is an arrow by the City Clerk submitting an application from Great Lakes Physical Therapy, LLC for a change in zoning classification property located on the south side of Superior Avenue, west of North Taylor Drive from UR to SO Urban Office Classification. Plan commissioned. 1941 is an arrow by the Finance Director, Treasurer submitting the Harbor Center Marina Balance Sheet from operations dated November 30, 2002 as submitted by Skipper Marine. Special Marina Committee. 1942 is a resolution directing a public hearing to be held in connection with change of the City's official zoning map for property located on the south side of Superior Avenue, west of North Taylor Drive. Alderman Doyle or Bowman. These are your two, 42 and 43. 42 and 43, they can be passed. They can be passed tonight. They can be passed tonight, 42 and 43. Could you make a motion, please? Yes, Your Honor. I make a motion that 1942 and 1943 be accepted and adopted. The move to second to 1942, resolution 1942 and 43, we put upon their passage under discussion. Hearing none, do we need, no, we don't need a roll call. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Thank you. 1944 is an ordinance amending the official zoning map of this Oregon zoning ordinance to change the use district classification of property owned by Rhonda and Leon Schleider from UR Urban Residential to Class S.O. Suburban Office. Plan commission. And 1945 is an ordinance amending the official zoning map of the Oregon zoning ordinance to change the use district classification of property owned by Great Lakes Physical Therapy, LLC, from Class UR Urban Residential to Class S.O. Suburban Office. Plan commission also. Move to the second to adjourn under discussion. Be right over here. Hearing none, all in favor, don't. Opposed?


Welcome, I welcome you all to this lecture in the course Sandhi in Panimian grammar. So far we have studied parts of the process of speech production and we continue to study this process in this lecture as well. We have studied this source, Panimian Shiksha and the verses therein and they are and we said that the process described in these verses can be shown in the form of a diagram in this particular manner in which Atma with Buddhhi collects the meaning and then enjoys the mind with Vivaksha and then the next process happens and the mind strikes the Kayagni which propels the Maruta up which comes in the chest or Urus and then it is thrown up in the oral cavity from which it is thrown out and then the audible speech is generated. This particular process described in the verses that we studied can be stated to have these eight stages. The first two Atma-Buddhya-Samet-Tyarthan and Mano-Yumte-Vivakshaya they are marked in red ink in this particular scheme on this slide primarily to mark the difference from the rest of the stages. The first two stages are primarily the cognitive stages and the rest of them they are the physical stages of the speech production and we shall study them one by one. The third step is Manakayagni Mahanti. Before that in the first two stages we have seen that the Atma collects the meaning and through the intellect and then enjoins the mind with the desire to speak. After this is done the mind becomes operational and then this particular stage comes into being Manakayagni Mahanti. Now in this particular sentence we have three words the first one is Manaha which is in one one Kayagni into one and Ahanti is the verb the verbal root is Hana together with the proverb A which means to strike. Kayagni is the Agni the heat in the Kay that is the body. So Kayagni is the bodily heat. So in this particular stage the mind strikes the bodily heat taken together with the previous steps the mind enjoined with the Vivaksha takes the next step and strikes the bodily heat. This is the third stage of the process of speech production. Let us proceed this is the fourth stage of the process Saperayati Marutam and here also there are three words Saha in one one and this Saha is a pronoun it refers to the Kayagni mentioned in the previous sentence namely the bodily heat. Prayayati is the third person singular of Purplus eeri meaning to propel and Prayati means propels. Maruta is wind Marutam is to one of Maruta. What this means is that the bodily heat which was struck by the mind as described in the previous sentence that bodily heat propels the wind. Now this wind is in the form of the breath that is inhaled and it is propelled in the lungs. So this is the next important stage in the process of speech production. Now the next fifth stage is described in this line Marutas to Rasi Charan Mandram Janayatis Varam. This has got the following words Marutah one one the wind two is but Urasi seven one of Urasi means chest Urasi means in the chest Charan is one one of Charat meaning moving Mandram is to one of Mandra meaning base stone and Janayati is three per third person singular of the present tense of the verbal root Jani to generate Janayati means generates Swara Swarai Swaram is the two one of Swara meaning the sound. This line means that the wind thus propelled moving in the chest generates the base stone sound. This is the beginning of the production of speech sound. This is very important and this Marutah the wind thus propelled by the bodily heat this wind moves in the chest and generates a base stone sound. After this comes the next stage namely Sodhirna Murdhnavi Hatha. This sentence has got four words Saha once again this Saha which means he refers to the Marutah which was mentioned earlier the wind Udhirnaha is propelled up Murdhni is the seven one of Murdhan meaning the roof so Murdhni meaning in the roof Abhihatha is struck one one of Abhihatha. What this means is that the wind after having generated a base stone sound in the chest is propelled further up up the wind pipe and from there it strikes the roof of the wind pipe. I repeat the wind after having generated a base stone sound is propelled further up up the wind pipe and it strikes the roof of the wind pipe. Then we have the next stage Vaktram Apadhyam Arutah. Vaktram is to one of Vaktra mouth Apadhyam is the form derived from the verbal root Pada with the proverb A. Apadhyam means having reached. Marutah is the wind. Then having reached the mouth from that roof of the wind pipe this wind enters the oral cavity which is inside the mouth. This is where wind enters the oral cavity and then finally in this particular oral cavity there is tongue which shapes this particular flow of the wind and then together with various places of articulation where the tongue moves the sounds are generated. Varnaan janayate. Varnaan is to three of Varna the sounds and janayate is the third person singular of the present tense of the verbal root jani which means generates. So the sounds get generated. So the atma generates the sounds and through the wind which generates the speech sounds but it is the atma which has kick started this process and thus it generates the speech sounds through this particular process. This is the process described in the Paniniya Shiksha. If we summarize this entire process we can say that the first two stages are the internal cognitive stages and they can be called the cause of the remaining stages. The remaining ones are the physical or biological stages involving various physical or biological entities like the wind, the bodily heat, the chest, roof of the wind pipe and oral cavity etc. One thing to be noted over here is that throughout this physical or biological process the internal cognitive process holds itself together. This internal cognitive process is the backbone of this entire process. In fact as we said earlier that is the cause of this effect in the form of the audible speech. What this entails is that clarity in that stage causes clarity in direct proportion in the physical speech production and confusion in that stage the stage of the cognitive process may cause confusion in direct proportion in the physical speech production. Let us look at the diagram once again. It is this atma which collects the meanings together with the Vuddhi and then enjoins the mind with the Vibhaksha. This is what is described also as Arthakasha and Shabdakasha together which plays an important role, the role of the program of what is going to come out in the form of the audible speech. So this is bracketed to indicate that this is the cognitive stage and from here onwards the mind strikes the bodily heat which propels the wind and then the wind comes in the chest and moves around and creates the sound, base tone sound from where this sound is this wind is further propelled into the oral cavity and there it is processed and shaped and thrown out with some pressure which generates the sound. This is how the process can be described diagrammatically. Let us look at the process once again with the help of these diagrams. So it is in the intellect a human being an atman first of all collects the artha in the Arthakasha. So this is the semantic space, this is the Arthakasha and as you can see these circles they stand for the arthas various arthas and these arrows indicate the linkage between these arthas. So these arthas are interlinked and several arthas are interlinked some of the arthas are not linked they are stored at such but some arthas get interlinked. It is this interlinkage which is termed as Artha Sandhi and it is this which gets translated into the form of the Sandhi of the Shabdas in the human intellect. The purpose of describing the process of speech production in some detail over here is to highlight the fact that this cognitive process is the cause of the Sandhi the topic of this particular course. So the base of the Sandhi lies well back in the form of the cognitive apparatus although as far as the studies are concerned the studies of Sandhi they primarily focus only on the audible speech and the substitution that is carried out in this particular audible speech of a particular element. We should not forget the fact that this change in the audible speech is not haphazard is not random but it is a programmed change programmed substitution and the program exists in the human intellect. The program exists in the part of the Artha Kasha initially which gets reflected in the corresponding Shabda Kasha and it is this because of which it then gets translated it get it then gets converted into the speech symbols in the way we know them and this and this is why we have studied this process to some length. So this the point to remember over here is that even though you might not see direct correlation of this with the Sandhi there is correlation of this with the Sandhi because it is this which gets corresponded in the form of the Shabda Kasha where words are combined and words are joined together and it is this joining this combination which gives rise to what is known as Sandhi and that is the reason why these are termed as Artha Sandhis which then get converted into the Shabda Sandhis which then converted into the audible speech together with the Sandhi and we shall study the precursors of the prerequisites of the Sandhi to take place in the audible speech as well but this is what one should remember. Now here we are talking about Artha Kasha in which Arthas are linked and also not linked some of them are merely stored some of them are brought out and are linked and even in the structure of the lexicon the Arthas can be interlinked in fact they are interlinked in the form of some hierarchical structure as well. Now this Artha Kasha is correlated with the Shabda Kasha and Shabdas are also arranged in the similar fashion as the Arthas are and it is this process which happens after the collection of the meanings first and then these Artha Kashas these Arthas in the Artha Kashas they have correspondence with the entities in the external world as well. So these Arthas in the Artha Kasha they are also linked with the Shabdas but they are also linked with the external objects as are experienced by the human beings. So the Arthas and the Shabdas they both are interlinked and even the Shabdas then are linked with the objects in the external world. Similarly the process of sentence formation also takes place in the Shabda Kasha as well as the Artha Kasha in which the sentence meaning appears as the cause which generates the sentence in the Shabda Kasha in the form of Gramah, Gramam, Gatsati taking Gramah, Gramah and Gum from the lexicon stored in the mental lexicon may lexicon stored in the intellect to take a relook at the same diagram but with slight difference where we note down the formation of the sentence where we say that Tatma having collected the meanings. Now these meanings are of the form of root meanings and termination meanings and word meanings in the form of the sentence meaning and also the roots and terminations the Shabdas. The root meaning and termination meaning is part of the Artha Kasha and root and termination they are part of the Shabda Kasha. So both of them are collected and then this Atma enjoins the mind with the Vibhaksha which then strikes the bodily heat which then propels the wind upwards and when it reaches the Urus it creates a base tone sound then it is further propelled up and enters the oral cavity and then it is thrown out and then it generates series of words or what is known as sentence and sentences. This is how the sentences get produced but remember the sentence meaning in the form of root meaning and termination meaning is at the base and also the roots and termination in the intellect they are at the base of these audible speech sounds. Similarly the plus signs over here which indicate the combination in the meanings also consist of what is coined as Artha Sandhi which is also in its turn creating the Shabdas Sandhi in the Shabda Kasha which then gets reflected in this entire process and when the sounds are thrown out of the oral cavity and the series of words or sentences are generated they are together with these Sandhis the Sandhis that are already there in these places in these parts of the cognitive process. This is why it is very important to study the cognitive process also when we learn something about Sandhi. Now in this case you can also discuss the mental lexicon in which the words are interlinked. This is an example where the Artha Sandhi takes place where the meanings get interlinked and then there are polysems words in the mental lexicon which then get disambiguated with the help of several other means. So in a nutshell what we can say is that the cognitive stage involves the Artha Kasha interlinked with the Shabda Kasha. The interlinkage brings about the combinations of Arthas as well as Shabdas. Then these combinations involves what is known as Artha Sandhi in the Artha Kasha. So interlinkage or result is called Shabdas Sandhi in the Shabda Kasha. This cognitive Sandhi gets expressed in the form of speech signals. These speech signals are audible and from them the cognitive stage is inferred. The cognitive stage is closely linked with the physical stage. The speech signals are analyzed further and the properties of sounds are noted. Sounds which match with other sounds in terms of features becomes the scope of Sandhi where a particular substitute is selected in place of a particular substitute event and then the Sandhi gets formed. Thus in today's lecture we studied the very important part of the process of speech production and we saw how it is interlinked with the process of Sandhi and we said that the Sandhi which is generally studied only in the form of the change that is brought about in the sounds in combination needs to be probed further and the further detailed and deep processes that define the Sandhi need to be understood and these processes lie in the cognitive apparatus of the human being which are directly reflected in the Sandhi that is seen in the audible speech. We introduced the concepts like cognitive Sandhi, the concepts like Artha Sandhi and then Shabdas Sandhi. All these three they are part of the cognitive process, they are part of the program of the sentence which is part of the cognition and we said that it is these Sandhis which get reflected in the audible speech. So this is the cause and effect relationship and this is what we tried to explain by explaining the process of speech production. Now in the next lecture we shall study the features of these sounds which form the base of the Sandhi that happens in the combination of the sounds. Thank you very much.


Hello and welcome to a new season of Fort Worth forward. Thank you for joining us for what is going to be an exciting episode here at Archies Gardenland, just off Camp Buoy West. Let's go. And now I'm joined by Randall Archie, who is owner of Archies Gardenland here on the west side of Fort Worth. Welcome Randall. Thank you Michael, great to see you. Great to see you too. So this is a family owned business, I think been around for how many years? So 89 since 1934. 89 years. Yes. Who started it? My great grandfather. Great grandfather started this. I'm the fourth generation. Fourth generation, it's an amazing little pocket over here of West Fort Worth that I think some people don't know about and discover it. And so tell us that story, how did your grandfather decide he was going to get into this business? Do you know that, or great grandfather? Well, yes. So they specialized in planting large trees where they would go out, field dig, like a specimen live oak and bring it into properties that we're working on building here in the Metroplex. From there, you know, it slowly started to evolve with a brick and mortar, I believe around 52. Okay. And moved to this location here on the west side of Camp Buoy in 56. 56. Yes. And so when did you get involved with the business? I've been. Since birth. Yeah, pretty much. I've been here quite a bit. Many weekends spent here, you know, at the garden center for sure. So I've been in this full time now for close to two decades, I'd say. Okay, yeah.  Your... Very much so, yeah. My father's super involved.  My mom and aunt are heavily involved, you know, and it's a fun dynamic for sure. Sure. Well, it's January. And so we're sort of in a slow period maybe, right? Right. So we talked to that we're sitting in one of your greenhouses here where you're having the plants and then eventually you'll get to the point where you put them outside. Tell us as, what's sort of the process that you go through here with people and when do people kind of start getting into the gardening? What does that look like? Sure. So right now it's kind of the calm before the storm. We'll use January and February to, you know, really just kind of work on planning what this spring's gonna look like for us and, you know, kind of future cast.  It's a lot of back and forth. If we have a nice weekend, we'll roll a lot of this plant material from these greenhouses that we're sitting in now out to the outdoor retail while being vigilant and watching the weather really quickly we'll have another cold front and that comes right back in. So it's a lot of back and forth and while preparing for what kind of space we need for mid-February, that's when we'll really start to stock up heavy and then come March, it will be full throttle. Yeah, seven days a week. Seven days a week as people get prepared. I guess there's a planting culture here, a grain culture. What is that like for you? Well, we're fortunate. I think a lot of, you know, our fans and customers are extremely loyal but they're also really focused on having a good curb appeal or, you know, their indoor house plants they want, you know, always looking the best. So really blessed to have an audience that, you know, is seasonally attracted to coming in and shopping us.  So we're either replacing things or adding things. I don't know about you, but if something at my house stays for, you know, about 10 years worth of, you know, somewhat stagnant and hasn't changed or been repainted, me and my wife are doing that. We're changing it. So it's always evolving. Yeah. With people like that. Well, we've done a lot, I'll say it kind of fits into that culture, I think. We've done a lot of the city with open spaces and investing money in open spaces. And I know you're involved in a lot of different organizations too. Camp Buie District being one of them. Yes. Give us a little bit about that. What you think about from the business perspective of running a business, what that means for you here as a business? You bet. Well, recently past four, five years, you know, being involved with the Camp Buie District, I've seen it evolve and change. It really in a positive light. The Camp Buie District's focus on, you know, beautification was kind of phase one or pillar one. And it helps, you know, kind of create an environment that seems more retail friendly. And it really is once you, you know, begin to explore off of the bricks and, you know, see some of these small businesses where we can compete and offer something different. Camp Buie District has really helped improve that. And it's nice to see and get to witness firsthand, you know, driving up now in the Boulevard every day. Yeah. For sure, yeah. Well, that's part of that. How has, and you kind of answered that a little bit, but how has it contributed to the garden center itself being a part of that? Sure. We'll have folks that, you know, maybe pass by like the red yuccas when they're in full bloom or maybe the pink mealy grass to go with a real, you know, kind of physical approach to that. They'll come in with- That's the beautification part that you're bringing up on Camp Buie Boulevard, right? Yeah, yeah. They'll come in with a photo from the median plantings that I recognize, you know, pretty quickly and say, you know, what's this beautiful grass? Yeah. Along with that, I think it just encourages- So it's good marketing for you as part of that, right? That people see that and go, oh, okay. I want that for my own place. Yeah, I think it kind of sparks, you know, other local shops, too, to maybe step up their curb appeal. Sure. You know, and it definitely permeates- People like pretty things. Yes. Constantly. Well, I get that too. Do you have, you know, worked here for a long period of time, some sort of outstanding moment or moments that you would be cool to talk about? You bet, yeah. Hard to really, you know, compare what it's like being able to work so close with your family, you know, every day. Sometimes you want to strangle them, probably, though. It's certainly tough, yeah. In a retail environment, too. My wife wants to strangle me all the time, but we don't even work together, so it's different. Yes, it's tough. But it's, you know, I think that's real rewarding. To be able to work, retail, you know, you get to talk to anyone and everyone from every single neighborhood. And really quickly, when you add plant material or landscape discussions or talking about a vegetable garden, you dive into a personal connection. And I've got so many customers that, you know, I'll see out and about while I'm getting groceries and we'll talk about how their perennial bed's doing or, you know, different things that we've helped them with or even seeing a tree that we planted, you know, two decades ago at a local school and to see it finally given shade to some kiddos. That's pretty fun to, you know, here's where I'd add something cheesy and say, you know, we're planting memories. But it is really fun to kind of see a tangible actual plant doing well. Well, I think it's fun. Our old house, as you just talked about that story when I first growing up, my dad planted an anniversary tree with he and my mom. They're divorced now, so maybe they didn't work out so well. But we've watched it grow as I still drive through the neighborhood and see it. So that's, that is true. You're really planting sometimes for tomorrow. It is pretty neat. Yeah, we found an old receipt on the wall. My brother actually found it on the wall of a small museum at the Dallas Arboretum that was signed by my great-granddad. And I forget the date, but they had, they had transplanted the bald cypress back in like the late 30s. Okay. All the way to the Dallas Arboretum and to find the cypress here locally, knowing that they had to camp out on a job site, you know, and probably somewhere down in South Texas dig this thing and bring it up. Right. Very big feet, yeah. That is great. It's still there at the Arboretum. It's still there? Yeah. It's a great legacy. So I've read, and you and I haven't talked about it. I wanted to throw this, you're, you've created an atmosphere here. Yes. And now you want to bring a restaurant in. So tell us about that. Kevin Martinez is a great friend of mine with Tokyo Cafe. Yes. So I'm excited about this. Tell our viewers what's going to happen here. Sure. So coming in March, we're going to have heirloom. It's going to be a garden, fresh bistro cafe and mainly soups, salads, sandwiches, and everything that's tied together with a, you know, very fresh and aspect where we can team together a recipe that we'll be able to give to the customer of heirloom with an option of, you know, maybe a plant material here that we could grow as well. Wow. So if it was real like, you know, a strong pesto kind of break down the ingredients and how they could grow it back home. Wow. That is an interesting concept. How did that come together with you and Kevin? So Kevin has- Are there any other partners that I'm not mentioning? Is there- Yo, sure. Jerry and Mary Ho. Okay, of course, yeah. Yeah, from Tokyo Cafe and along with Kevin Martinez. I shared with them the kind of our desire to bring food in, which has always been my granddad's dream to bring food in here. And now finally being able to, you know, to move on it and grow on that opportunity. Exclude on a great idea. They really quickly, you know, the three of them said, let's do it. And now we're kind of along for the ride and holding on. And it's going to be a lot of fun. That's great. So March, March 2023 is what we're talking about. Yeah. Okay. It'll be heirloom Fort Worth on Instagram. Okay. Yeah. Okay, well good. Well, I'm looking forward to it. Thank you. It's a great concept too about giving a recipe and here's what you can do to grow it at home. I hadn't really thought about that. It's kind of fun. So we've done a big focus on small businesses. I personally invested a lot of time as a small business owner myself, making sure that we at the city are doing the right thing through our permitting process, through any other incentives that we can give to grow small businesses. Cause I know that they are really the staple of America and Main Street. We talk about that as a thing, but it's really true.  Tell us about what that's like, what you go through and what advice you would have to other small business owners. You've obviously been in operation for a long period of time doing something well, but I know you have your challenges just like anybody else. Sure, yeah. I think challenges, they come up daily. With retail sales, I think you're always in competition with a very saturated social media market and a saturated schedule. No one seems to really have free time anymore with kids. I don't. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, everything. So I think some advice I could give would be you've got to create an environment that folks plan to make time for and come to. I mean, that's tricky. That's changing things up. We'll try not to leave a display or an end cap sitting for longer than like a week and a half. Knowing that that repeat customer has something new to see really helps them come in more, I feel. So yeah, it's tough and knowing that it's gonna be tough.  Those are obviously challenges for a small business. What about just the staffing, back of house? I mean, how have you worked through that? So we are very fortunate right now to have probably one of the best teams we've had going forward into this spring and it's been a good curve up in growth. When you've got somebody good, you've got one, to let them know that and two, you've gotta spoil them a little bit because we couldn't do this without any of our team. So really focusing on them, while trying to keep things fun and fresh, not just for the customer, but also for my staff is one of our goals while it's tough. We're at, I think, 36 full-time employees and most retail garden centers don't operate with that many folks to a degree. So it really helps. But there's this customer service oriented focus. So it's important to have that. Yeah, everything from the unloading and processing team to the final sales team, we've got a really great crew. And keeping that team element is huge. Great. Well, with any business that's important, taking care of the people that are taking care of you, for sure. Well, we joked earlier that we're in a live greenhouse. So there were drops that were coming out of that as part of it. So that's proof to the audience that we are literally sitting in one of your greenhouses. I love it. I love the authenticity there. But Randall, thanks for being with us today. Thank you for telling us a little bit about your story and appreciate all that you do. Thanks for sharing your time with us, Michael. Thank you. Great to see you. Great. Now I'm here with Lauren Anton, who is the executive director of Saving Hope Animal Rescue. Welcome, Lauren. Thank you. How are you today? Great. Well, I'm not gonna start off this and be awkward and not introduce the other person. Who did you bring today? This is Frisco. He's a little scared from the drive over, but he's super sweet. Super sweet. And how did he come to be with you? Well, one of our volunteers, the mother and her babies were all being euthanized, and so we went in and took them in and mom's been adopted and most of the siblings have been adopted. He's still available, so. Okay, well, that's good to know. For people that don't know Saving Hope Animal Rescue, how did you get started? What did you do on a regular basis? Well, I started as a board member on the foundation board, which is Saving Hope Foundation. And that was started by Kit and Gloria Moncrete? Yes, and that was probably in 2000. It's been at least 15 years, I think, since the dog was found and that foundation was started. And then we were meeting with the city, meeting with the Humane Society, Spay & Neuter Network, TCAP, a lot of nonprofits, and I started seeing the need and I offered to foster, and then friends started to foster, and then we started pulling a lot of animals and we've saved over 6,000 since 2017. Wow, wow. Yes, so then we started our own 501 because the foundation is now focusing on Spay & Neuter, mainly in education throughout the schools. Okay, so what your executive director is on rescuing these animals? So they're not euthanized? Right, and I'm still a board member, but my focus, I mean, on my phone is for somewhere 10 to 14 hours a day, probably. Trying to find homes or place these animals? All of it. So even if it means going into the shelter, picking 10 or how many ever, like some groups say, can we do this and go to the shelter and save 15 like we did last time? And then we have to find fosters. We have to make sure they're vaccinated, washed, tagged, collared. Then for the fosters, provide food. We provide everything for fosters. And then it's an ongoing communication with each foster about how the dog is doing, whether it's ready for adoption. Usually it's 10 to 14 days. And right now I'm focusing a lot also on our Alito property, which is almost 15 acres in Alito. And we're breaking ground on the senior sanctuary this coming month. So, and that will help us not only save more, but save more animals, but also save more animals by saving and vet bills because we'll keep them quarantined there 10 to 14 days. And then they go to foster care to where we don't have as many that are worried about, you know, the animal sniffling and things like that. Since in the last two years, things have really gotten worse. They, if a dog goes to the shelter, it's most likely going to either get really sick or be euthanized. The live release rate was 93% by three years ago. It's, I would say 70% right now. And maybe even less. I haven't checked lately. Let's break that up a little bit because you talked about going to the shelters. And right now you're going to shelters and finding puppies, I believe, is that right? For the most part, folks own puppies with some of the foster, but then you brought up the senior. So let's break that up for you. You go in because our shelters cannot hold the populations that come in, right? Right. And they can't properly, you know, take care of all of them. Care for them, sure. So, and really we have over 1,000 animals in our care, all in foster care, which is like a shelter, but it's individual homes. And so they can properly care, make sure they get to vets and- And love on them. Right. And there's a lot of sickness going around right now. I don't know if you've heard about it, but influenza, which most vets don't even vaccinate for, is all of a sudden has a resurgence. I'm not sure why. And then distemper, which is super deadly. Sure. Parvo, you know, the sicknesses, and I think people are surrendering at an all high, but we take all dogs, it's based on our foster base. So if a foster is a senior foster, we have hospice fosters that just want to get them out and give them even sometimes a few days, few weeks, sometimes a few months, and then we have puppy fosters. So there's for certain fosters, if I get a poodle, for example, I know who I call. Right. And we have an adoption coordinator, a foster coordinator, a medical coordinator, several people that, I mean, we have hundreds of volunteers, which is great. And I know. For a second. But so you'll find fosters and all, and then you brought up the senior center, and I was at the event where a big fundraiser, raising funds for that. And so that's really focused on older dogs and giving them, as you said, maybe a few more days of life in a nice environment, not in a cage, or it may be rehabilitating them in some ways so they can be. Yeah, okay, so. And some people, you would be shocked, adopt senior dogs. Sure. And some, we had one recently that had cancer and this guy adopted her, her name was Juno, and she was fostered by a lady that works for Bank of Texas, and who's amazing. And she, I thought that dog was stuck with her and this guy wanted a dog that was, you know. So they're. Termally ill. All ranges of people that, and dogs that would be available, maybe someone doesn't want a puppy that's might trip their shoes, but they want to care for something. That's wonderful. It's a balance. What, you've talked about this a little bit. What's your favorite part about being involved in this sort of rescue care? You know, I've talked about this a lot lately. I feel like it's the only thing, and I never knew this to begin, you know, in the beginning, but it's an immediate reward. You know, so many people volunteer and you don't see that. I mean, you can recognize your difference in an hour. Sure. If you pick up a dog, the difference that dog is from the shelter to even the car. It's a smile versus facing the wall. So it's, it's, we have transporters that just transport. And it's because of that, it's a reward. And you can, you know, you're making a difference. And with a lot of charities, I think it's hard to see that. And it's more long term, you know, to where you're giving, but you can't see it as quickly. Sure, sure. You can hold a puppy or hold a dog and understand. And, you know, being in politics, people say if you really want a friend in politics, you get a dog. Yes, yes. It's true. Dogs are very... And I believe that for sure. For sure. Owning a pet's a responsibility, right? It is, and you see around major holidays, people would buy them, but it is a responsibility. People need to understand that. And that might, maybe, I don't know, does that contribute sometimes to some of the pets that you receive? We make it very clear with, you know, our foster guideline package, our adoption package, but you would be surprised about how many are uneducated and people that you wouldn't think. We had one lady fostering the nicest person, but she thought vaccinated meant vaccinated once for their whole life. And, you know, that's a question for the foster out, are your dogs vaccinated? Right. That means yearly. Right. And do y'all provide those services for foster care? We do for foster care. But she was saying her dog was vaccinated. And so, education is huge. Heartworm prevention, spaying and neutering is absolutely mandatory. People don't understand. I wish everyone could go to the shelter and see how many are there. One female in a lifetime can produce up to 67,000 offspring, unwanted offspring. I know, I keep being, I'm shocked by that number. And every time we have a, we have a graphic of it.  Right. Right. That's a lot. That kind of care piece of it, making sure they have their vaccination, et cetera, is one sort of piece of advice. You have other advice for pet owners that are? Another huge thing is a lot of people, there are a lot of surrenders right now. And a lot, or I don't have enough time. I don't have the money. I don't have this. There are a lot of resources. I spoke to someone recently that called and said, we need to give this dog to you because he's too hyper. They were creating them during the day.  Also, putting in a kennel is probably, I mean, it can be a good thing, but we have to realize that, you know, they say a tired dog is a happy dog. Sure.  So they started using doggy daycare. Dog is a different dog. Their household is calmer. So there's always, you know, options. You've got to wear the kid out. And you just have to look at, like, there's don't forget to feed me. They give food to people that. We've interviewed them before. Okay, yeah. And they're wonderful. Great resource. And, you know, even rescues, we've given a lot to people in need, especially if it's food. Or if it's, even if it's an apartment complex that won't allow them, we'll call the apartment complexes if they are really, but some, there's a lot. And I think. So you have a lot of resources to help people to get pets in homes, make sure they know how to care for them. Retention, and retention, and spay and neuter. If, for example, we get calls, my dogs just had babies, can you help? And I said, if we spay and neuter the mom and dad, we can take the babies. So a lot of times they want to keep the mom and dad. And we're not opposed to that, but we cannot keep having babies and babies and babies. They're euthanizing for the first time in years. They are euthanizing full-term pregnant moms and babies. We just save one with two torn ACLs that was being euthanized, three months old. There are a lot that are, and I don't blame the shelter, but we have to start enforcing laws. And, you know, people want change. They just don't know how to help make this change. A lot of it's education. And, you know, for example, we have several cruelty cases we take too. There's two, there's warrants out for the arrest for these, you know, and they haven't been caught or arrested. So there's no accountability. Even if the laws are there, they're not enforced. So, which is another huge problem with spay and neuter too. And so it's very complicated. Yeah, very, very, very complicated. Well, Lauren, thanks for all that you're doing. Thank you. How can people find you? SavingHopeRescue.org. Okay. And they can email savinghopeorg at gmail.com. And we would love volunteers, especially at our new facility in Alito, or even if it's towels, blankets, fosters, adopters, any thing you can think of, we're open for. Any needs. Or those on your website too. People can go and here's how I can help. Even if I can't foster an animal, I can give blankets, I can give other things. There's always something someone can do.  I mean, there's tiny things that take 30 minutes, but it makes a difference. Definitely. Well, thanks again for all you're doing. Thanks for being with us today. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Now I'm here with Lauren Rashard, who's president and CEO of Campfire First, Texas. Welcome, Lauren. Thanks, Michael, it's great to be here. Thanks for being here. So Campfire First, Texas. I think people have heard of it, but may not know exactly all the services that you provide. Tell us a little bit about the organization. Sure, so I think most people know us originally as Campfire Girls. Yes, yes. Bluebirds back in the day. Yes, yes. And today we have morphed into primarily after school and out of school time programming for children and youth, both in schools and at our camp out in Granbury, Texas, Camp El Tesoro. But we also work with early childhood educators. So one of the ways that we scale our impact is by working with educators who then work with hundreds of other children. Okay, okay. So. And what do they do? What's the interaction that they have with them? With the teachers? Yes. Yeah, so we have an early education apprenticeship program which is brand new. It's backed by the Department of Labor and it's really intended to help elevate the field of early childhood. Okay. And help educators kind of do an earn as you learn program. So one of the barriers to becoming obviously an early childhood educator and retaining them is wages. Okay, yes. And we also want to increase the quality and we increase the quality by training the teachers. Training teachers, yeah. And that's something that I think that's interesting for people to know. I know the numbers flowed out there from childcare of sorts that a Bucky's employee makes more than most average child care here in Tarrant County. And also this fact that for a long time and even when I was growing up, kindergarten was pretty new. I mean, you did maybe half day and then, et cetera. And that expanded to full day kindergarten. Now we have pre-K, but there's been a lot of emphasis on this zero to six, like really focusing on that you learn more in zero to six.  So giving that education to them, I think would be important to the educators, right? Right, and that's one of the things I think that differentiates campfires. We really focus on those two times of really explosive brain growth. Which is zero to six. But also early adolescence is another time when your brain is just making so many connections. And so we work with teens as well. Okay, yeah. Well, I've got two teenagers right now and there's a lot of hormone explosion. There's a lot going on up there. There's a lot going on up there.  Tell us a little about that for people that don't know. Cause you do things here in Tarrant County. I mean, and then Camp El Tesoro. What's special about that? Camp is one of the most special parts of us. We have a 200 acre camp out in Grandbury, Texas. And we provide resident camp, day camps, grief camp for kids who have lost a loved one. And then we also do outdoor education groups for schools. Sure, sure. What's your favorite part of the camp? Oh gosh, so many things. I think it's, you know, we talk a lot about finding the spark at Camp Fire and thriving. Okay. And those are the two things that really, you know, I don't know, growing up, I didn't really have teachers talking to me about like, what's your spark? What's your... So like being aspirational. Yeah, like what's your gift? What's your, what are you interested in? Like nurturing that, helping them figure that out. And camp is a great place to do that. And how many years has that camp, I mean, how long has that camp been? Well, we were founded in 1914. Okay. And that was a staple from the very beginning where it's some of these camps. Yes, yeah. Okay. My girl's favorite part is the stick at the end. Yes, the walking stick. The walking stick, I think after three years, and then you can pass it on and bring it back. Right. When I, when I Greek family's coming in, I always know if they're returning or not, if they have a stick in their hand when they come up. That's great. What do you think makes Camp Fire First Texas so special in North Texas? You know, I literally can't go a month without someone coming up to me or if I've been a speaking engagement saying, you know, I was a campfire girl or I was a bluebird or I was speaking with leadership for it worth recently. And one of the attendees said, you know, my brother really wanted to go to camp, but it was all girls and then y'all integrated. We were one of the first ones to go co-ed. Wow. And she's- What year was that, do you remember? That was in the fifties. In the fifties, wow. Yeah. So very early in that, yes. Yeah. And so she, you know, she said that he had that experience and we were able to share it together. So I think we're always trying to be responsive to the needs of the community.  Adapt. And that's one of the things that I think has been most special about our organization and why we've lasted so long. That's wonderful. What, do you have some special projects planned in upcoming in North Texas? Oh, yes. Okay, let's tell us all about them. So our new early education apprenticeship program, we're actually taking that statewide. Oh, wow. Because during the pandemic, we figured out how to do virtual mentoring as well as education. So we're serving, we actually serve a five county area. Terrence is the most one people know about. But we're, you know, we have clients in our EAP program in San Antonio and Glen Rose and all over the state. So we're working on expanding that and reaching as many educators as we can. We're doing really significant improvements to camp. We just built a new lake last year. So the water, water. In Grandbury? In Grandbury, yeah. So we didn't have really any water activities. So now we do. Okay, wonderful. We are also building a new art. It gets hot out there in the summer. It gets hot. And we have a new arts village that we're building. So kids can explore their creative side. So we're doing a lot of enhancements to the camp. And then we're also. I know you've improved the dorms too. Oh, yeah, the cabins, yeah. My daughters, the older daughters are very jealous when the younger daughter went and they're like, we did not have this. Yeah, that's not fair. That's not fair. And then our teens in action program, which has been really kind of beefed up by our new VP. She's really looking at college and career readiness. So we help them find their spark and figure out what they want to do. But how do we get them there? How do you get them there? So taking that next step. One of the most fun events I attend every year is your artist Christmas. Tell our viewers about that, how you source the art. We've got several art pieces in our home. From it that we love and end up using. I think I put one actually at our office too. So it's great. So tell us a little bit about that. Well, yeah, it's our signature fundraiser. We have artists from all over who come to showcase their art. And we have a panel that judges the art and decides who gets in. And then we do a best in show and that sort of thing at the event. But it's really a fun evening of great art, great food, really good company and for a really good cause. And it's been going on for 30 plus years and people are still attending it in droves. It's normally in the fall, November time frame. Yeah, November time frame. November time frame. And then people can purchase the art, right? Yeah, it's all auctioned. That's right, they can purchase the art. I've had some folks tell me they're like, I don't have any more wall space. So we're actually trying to get new folks to come to the event that haven't been exposed to it before. Yes. It's a younger crowd too. So it's been really successful. Well, it's a great event. I appreciate what you're doing. You've talked a little bit about this. I've got three daughters. But what advice do you give as part of this? And I guess it's children in general, but it's Campfire Texas. Just you talked about Spark, et cetera. What can you leave our viewers with about what's important about investing in children? Oh yeah. So I think after school time, or out of a school time really, is sort of an underrated piece of how we help develop our kids. We're all focused on, that's right. We've got to cook dinner and do all these things, but. Right, we're focused on the school day usually and what's happening there. The licensed educators have that covered. We're here to help with the rest of it, right? We're here to help with social emotional learning. We're here to help with helping them find their creativity, find what they like. It's supposed to be a fun time, right? Not a real highly structured time. And so I would say, go to our website. We have 10 locations for after school. We have 17s in action programs. We have four day camps during the summer and then everything that happens at our camp. But I would say also make sure that you're looking for licensed programming because a lot of after school sites are not licensed and that's one of the other things that we're really committed to is being high quality. Do you pick the kids up from school or if a parent wanted to have after school activities, how would they engage? We do have a couple of buses where we bring kids to the site, but we also do it at elementary schools. So they're already there. Except for some sites like Diamond Hill, which you mentioned earlier. But yeah, we do do some transportation. I wouldn't say it's not. We don't have a fleet of buses. It's every school, every school. It's good. Well, thank you very much for being able to say thank you for all you do for the community. Really appreciate it. It's a great organization and I'm glad you're helming it. Great, thanks for having me. Of course, thank you. Surprise, thank you for joining us for this episode of Fort Worth Forward at Archies Gardenland. Zach Galifianakis has his version of Between Two Verns. This is my version with the corn plant, dressena here at Archies Gardenland. Stop in, they can help you with all your needs. If you have ideas for our show, please share them with us. We love doing this for you, bringing great stories, great people, great organizations to tell you a little bit more about Fort Worth. Send us your ideas. We'd love to feature it if you keep watching. Thank you.


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