Today I'll be attempting the maximum difficulty rebuild. The New Orleans Saints.  They've got solid players and a solid overall. But the key to the difficulty here is cap space. Derek Carr is on a $144 million deal. That's a crime. In 2026, this man is gonna have a $56 million salary cap hit. Latimore deserves his contract, I'm with that. So does Ramchick, I like him. Tackles are hard to find. But Eric McCoy being the fourth biggest contract. Cam Jordan's 34 and he's hitting us for 17 million this year. Michael Thomas is 30. He's an 84 overall, he's not getting any better. He's expensive. Basically this entire team consists of incredibly expensive old players. And we don't have a franchise quarterback. But all hope is not lost. Let's focus on the good right now. Cause we're gonna have to rebuild this team to a Super Bowl before this video's over. So first and foremost, the Ohio State product, Chris Olave, such a good wide receiver and an absurd wide receiver and franchise. Olave gets really, really good. He's six foot with great speed. I expect him to be a Super Star X Factor 99 overall when we're headed into the Super Bowl.  I hope we can afford you down the line. Alvin Camero has always been one of my favorite running backs in the league. But unfortunately he's at the exact year where you start to regress. Once you hit 2930, the overalls go like that. So I can't really see us keeping Camero in the long run. Same with Jamal Williams. I don't know if we keep him cause he's the same age as Camero and he's just a little worse than Camero. But this game is flooded with good young running backs. Honestly, our quarterback room is atrocious. Jamus is not the future of this team. Derek Carr is not the future of this team. I also love how the Saints use Taysome Hill but this man is 33 years old playing like four positions. I don't really see the future of Taysome Hill here either. I'm happy about our offensive line. There's lots of star guys up there. Trevor Penning, young out of Northern Iowa. He'll definitely be on this team for a while. Andres Pete is actually getting paid a lot of money to be super mid. Defensively, there are a lot of good things to look at like Isaiah Foskey out of Notre Dame. I think I need to get my young guys involved very early on this team so that we can save some cap space and try to keep this team good. For example, like DiMario Davis, Cam Jordan, Tyran Matthew, they're great high overall players. These guys are either retiring or regressing significantly in the next two, three years. We just can't keep them. One guy I do really like though on this defense, Paulson Adibo out of Stanford. He's gonna be really good and Marshawn Ladimor is nasty. If I can retain anybody by the Super Bowl, I think it should be Marshawn Ladimor. I really wanna still have him. Hopefully, Brian Bresci out of Clemson can play really, really well and he can be a star interior delinemen. I'd love to still have Paulson Adibo and I'd love to still have Chris Olave and pieces of this offensive line other than that dude. I don't know who's gonna still be on this team. My initial adjustment is I'm gonna start Isaiah Foskey over Carl Granderson. He's certainly worse, but he is a power rusher which is good for the 4-3. He's hidden devs, so he's at least star. Actually, he is star. He's not super star. Also to ensure this is max difficulty, my draft class strength is staying on normal. I always go strong, but not for this one. And we will be changing the trade difficulty. By default, it's set to normal. We are setting it too hard. So there will be no cheesing the CPU with egregious trades, although honestly Madden's trade system is so bad. We still might be able to cheese a little bit. It'll just be harder. And that's gonna be the first thing I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get Derek Carr off this team. Derek Carr is not the future of this team. He's 32 years old. And I'm gonna trade with a team who does need a quarterback. I want this to be realistic. For example, I'm not gonna let myself trade Derek Carr to the Bengals.  But I do believe there is a team that would trade for Derek Carr. I think that team is the New York Jets. Whether Madden thinks so or not, I don't know. But the Jets in real life need a quarterback. There's no way I could get a round one for Derek Carr, right? I'm just gonna see. Derek Carr and Michael Thomas is about halfway towards the first round pick. The Saints don't have a third, or a fourth round, or a seventh round this year. They also don't have a second round next year. Yeah, we're kinda like pick depleted too. I found a team who wants Derek Carr. The Jets didn't want him. The next best team I could think of was the Panthers. They were willing to give up a second round pick for Derek Carr. I'm honestly so fine with that. Next guy I wanna trade is DiMario Davis. He's just too old. Let's get something out of him before he regresses or retires to be a family man. I think realistically the only team that would want a guy like DiMario Davis, a playoff contender, kinda like how the Rams picked up Eric Weddle before their Super Bowl. I'm gonna try and get their first and second round. This is probably way too much. I put the trade difficulty to hard. I guess they're late first and second rounders most likely since the bills should be good. He's a 34 year old DiMario Davis, really worth a first and a second round pick.  Those are gonna be the only adjustments I'll make for right now. Here's the Saints roster going into this season so no DiMario Davis, no Derek Carr. I think both of those were a good call. Low key I could trade Cameron Jordan too. He's just such an OG Saints player. I wanna keep this rebuild semi-realistic too. I don't think the Saints would be trading Cam Jordan. I think he's gonna stay a saint till he retires. Let's see how this season goes. It'll probably be a difficult season. I do need to change my team schemes a little bit. I'm gonna switch my offensive scheme to vertical power run and my offensive playbook to Dallas Cowboys. Rashid Shahid is our slot wide receiver right now under most circumstances. I actually really like that. I'm gonna make it Olave. I want Olave to get superstar ASAP. And honestly, this season is gonna be so bad for us that Olave might have a really good season. Like we'll be losing every game so we'll be passing every game. I'm gonna move Shahid to wide receiver two. He's really good dude. Rashid Shahid has the potential to be nasty. And Michael Thomas is gonna start to get phased out. I like Michael Thomas, but 30 years old, only an 84 overall, Stardev. It ain't gonna be too much going for him. All right, let's see how year one goes for these New Orleans Saints. How does this happen in these rebuilds, bro? I swear every time I try to tank, I end up nine and eight and in the wild card. So the NFC South shocked the world. And actually we're, I mean, the Falcons are 12 and five. That's what we've got in the wild card. We've got one last hurrah, which is making a playoff push for a veteran. We've got our first playoff game or facing arrival in the playoffs. Before I look at the league stats, I wanna know if I'm gonna make a deep playoff push. See, I kind of figured. Okay, so we lose to Falcons there.  Jamus had a not bad season. If Jamus wasn't old, I would consider this. Camara had 1,230 rushing yards and 10 touchdowns. This is what I'm saying, man. I really like Dallas Cowboys because you get a lot to your running back and then you get really like, look at this. 1,100 for Olave, Shahid at 1,006. Michael Thomas had 806. That's awesome. Looks like Zach Bon was our tackle leader followed up by Pete Werner. Our linebackers are really involved. And my linebackers aren't good. So Pete Werner is young though. Pete Werner is young and he's a decent overall. We might hang on to him. It wouldn't be a bad idea to draft a linebacker though, trying to get somebody really good or maybe somebody in free agency. We got to the quarterback a lot less than I would have liked. Cameron Jordan's still supposed to be good. This is a shockingly low sack count. I expected a lot more out of him. Isaiah Foskey, he had four. He's a rookie. A rookie with four sacks is actually pretty solid. 14 TFL, 68 tackles.  Oh, that wasn't so good, dude. And then Brian Bresi must have been solid too because he came in sixth. Our defensive rookies actually a very good season. Oh my God, the Falcons were legit. Dude, have you ever seen this? Chargers versus Falcons. Rishi Reiss, skits, offensive rookie, the retiree Wilson, defensive rookie of the year. Dude, that's weird. I literally have never even seen the Chargers win it.  Yeah, it's actually ridiculous. We have to trade Cameron Jordan. We can't even sign free agents, obviously. That's actually crazy. I've never been in free agency and legitimately not had the option to even attempt to sign anyone. Oh my God. All right, so year one's in the books. No dev trade changes. I lowkey thought with how good of a season Olave had that maybe he'd get a dev trade, but he does not. Camara does not, despite his good season. Andres Pete retired, so we're down a guard. So we need a guard. We need a quarterback, obviously, but that's been on my radar. Ooh, Marcus May, those six interceptions out of Marcus May, he does get a dev trade upgrade. So that's huge. Pete Werner gets a dev trade upgrade up to star. So he will be a linebacker on the team for a long time. Foskey is star, Bresi is star. My first pick is round one pick 21. I know exactly who I want. My pick is round one pick 21. Here's the problem. The guy I want is this guy right here, Dylan Graham on an Ole Miss. He's the third quarterback on the board and he looks solid. He's got elite strength, elite throw power, good speed, great jumping, poor acceleration, but his stats are solid, A deep, B medium, B short. This guy looks good, but the mock has the Vikings getting him. And then it has the Giants taking Keith Young right before that, but none of these mocks have Dylan Graham going anywhere but 20. So the thing if I want to secure getting Dylan Graham, I got to get that Vikings pick. There we go. All right, so it cost me my first rounder and then a fourth, a fifth, and a sixth, a couple of those in next year's draft to get the first round that I wanted. I only traded up one spot. Loki, I gave away a lot for that. That's where that hard trade difficulty comes into play, but I actually think that's gonna be super important. This is why this was so important because they were gonna take Dylan Graham in the next best quarterback is a day three projection. Loki, Chris Hand out of Alabama does not look terrible, but Dylan Graham just looked a lot better. I have a really good feeling about this, dude. I'm hoping this is my offensive rookie of the year. Yeah, oh, he's fast. Dylan Graham Ole Miss, whoa.  This dude's a beast. Vikings take Eddie Chapman. That's who we were projected to take if we didn't take him. We could take a guard. We could not really take a wide receiver. I don't see that being the move. Here's Ben Wood. I'll probably end up moving him to a guard. I'm really just supposed to decide about the great strength and he's got a awareness, a lead lock. I think this is a pretty high overall tackle. That's the hope. I'm hoping he's hidden dev, huge. I love how that's great speed for a tackle. 90s strength out the gates, hidden dev. We've locked up an offensive lineman. Okay, that's good. Next pick is round two pick 17. I think this is the one from the Panthers. Stanley Holcomb out of USC is an elite speed middle linebacker. I like this dude a lot. He's a field general middle linebacker. Exactly what we lost into Mario Davis except he's 21 out of USC. I love this dude. Please be hidden dev.  That's such a good pick. 91 speed, 88 Excel. Stanley Holcomb got a middle linebacker, got offensive line, got a quarterback. I still could use a guard, okay. I'm gonna take Tyler Wilkerson. He really doesn't look that good.  If he's hidden dev, he could be Cam Jordan's replacement. Yeah, I knew I didn't like that pick. Especially with that face scam, bro.  Who said, yeah, let's make a human being look like that. I'll start first with though. This is a normal draft class and I'm three hidden devs deep right now. I'm actually really excited. Okay, okay. I gotta remember that this is a normal strength draft class. Dylan Graham looks actually really good. 72 overall quarterback on normal is not bad at all. None of these guys are generational. Ben Wood, 72 overall. Holcomb was probably my best pick. To get around to pick 17, 72 overall middle linebacker is actually nasty. That's huge.  Joey Calloway, oh my God. I sent him through one of my own picks.  Who's a hidden dev? Joey Calloway, hidden dev corner.  Eddie Chapman, wait a minute. This is the wide receiver that the mock drafts had us taking and this is the like he took right after us. He's good man, 77 overall. You know what I like though? I'm not seeing a single quarterback in any of these. We may have gotten one of the better quarter rings. All right, here's the year two roster. There's a lot of weight on Dylan Graham's shoulders right now, I'm not gonna lie. But with how often he'll be passing, dude, if he puts up a James Winston-esque season, he's easily gonna win offensive rookie here. That's how I feel. He just can't throw that interceptions. Ben Woods looking good. So we made a good replacement on the O-line and then defensively Stanley Holcomb was a really good pick. We just need these two to develop. I don't know, we're gonna have to get more linebackers in the next draft because I can't even sign anyone. I can't trade either. You can't trade when you have negative cap. Like even if I wanted to unload Cameron Jordan, I can't. I don't wanna cut him because that's so unrealistic. When would the New Orleans Saints ever cut Alvin Camero? What are the, what, like I don't get it. I really don't get it. Sorry guys, I'm really sick, but I really don't get why we are nine and eight.  Actually, now that I think about it, this makes the most sense. This is why the Saints are such a tough rebuild because they're perpetually mediocre.  Actually, he was better than James. 27 for 11, James was 25 as well. Camero had an insane seed. Olave 1316, that oughta get him a dev trade upgrade. Dylan Graham's the guy, bro. Dylan Graham's the guy. This is our franchise QB. Stanley Holcomb, 124 tackles, two TFLs, one and a half sacks, an interception. Dude, and a force fumble. Could Stanley Holcomb win defensive rookie of the year with that stat line? That's really good. Kim Jordan, five sacks, Foske had three, two and a half for Breesie. If we got the offensive and defensive rookie of the year, offensive rookie of the year, it had to be. It was always Dylan Graham. Damn, I'm not nearly as close as I thought I would. So Marco McCord, that insane corner, the 80 overall corner, he actually got second to Don McGee. I don't watch these games because I kind of just assume I'm gonna lose.  I can't sign anyone in for agency. So we're headed to the draft. I finally got us in the positive for CapSpace. Here's what we had to do though.  Oh wait, duh, he got offensive rookie of the year. Dylan Graham is superstar. Dylan Graham has great accuracy, he's 99 throw power and he's superstar for winning offensive rookie of the year. Oh, this is so big. I'm actually gonna give him a field general upgrade. This usually gives you accuracies, which is I would prefer here. Oh, wait a minute. Offensive rookie of the year did not give him a dev trade upgrade, which means he was already superstar.  Stud, I love Dylan Graham, bro. That's the future of the saints right there. Camara is regressing already. Olave is certainly not regressing. We had to let Michael Thomas walk. Michael Thomas had to walk. In fact, he might have retired. I actually don't know. So we do need another wide receiver because Lance McCutcheon cannot be the third string. Offensive line is still the same as it's been and it's honestly pretty damn good. Joann Johnson is an 80 over O and it's progressing well. So that's great. Cameron Jordan is still here and we have positive cap. Paul Sinodibo is now superstar. So we have very good DBs. We've gotten almost 99 X factor. We've got Paul Sinodibo and then Alontay Taylor is actually a pretty good like depth guy. Tyler and Matthew is regressing fast. So free safety is gonna be a position of concern. Left outside linebackers already a position of concern. Marcus May looks great. And then Breesie and Foskey are getting really good. I'm so glad we had them. Without those guys, it would feel like this rebuild is actually straight up impossible. I'd like to get rid of Camara. I'm gonna go to the trade center. I'm gonna try and like offload even more here. Okay, Cam Jordan's gotta go. Cam Jordan's gotta go. Camara's gotta go.  I have found that drafting linebackers can be very difficult. Let's see if we can't get too lead to a pillow too off of the chargers. So it costs us two third rounders of fifth and Kendrick Miller, but we got too lead to a pillow too. I'm gonna be honest. I don't think I ever could have gotten outside linebacker in the third round. Who's gonna be as good as him? And he's 22, he's 22 years old, he's an 80 overall. Round one pick 19, our next pick is not till round six. So this is gonna have to be an amazing pick. Damn, this guy was not supposed to be available. This is why I traded for too lead to a pillow too. This guy was not supposed to be available. I will say though, this is a power rusher right outside linebacker. So it doesn't really fit the scheme unless I switched him to right end. I'm kind of thinking of picking up Marcus Foster and moving him to right end. We eventually, we really do need the Cam Jordan replacement. This guy is a 65-250 speed rusher. It's like a Michael Parsons build. That guy is going straight to right end. That guy is going straight to right end. I might even, I'm gonna try and trade Cam Jordan this year.  Let's go. Oh my God. And the computer got me a 70 overall wide receiver in the sixth round. Are you hitting death? Trevor Flanagan out of Georgia Southern. That's actually not bad, bro. This guy's a dog. Marcus Foster's a 76 overall. That was amazing pick. 86 speed, 89 excel and he's going, let's see what he looks like at right end because that's where he's going right now. That's the best linebacker available too. Next closest is Gary Austin and Rutledge. These guys are third rounders. What, where are the first round linebackers? You're year three New Orleans Saints. Olave Superstar. Dylan Graham is Superstar. We've got the new Marcus Foster who's already got plus one from Norel. Tully Tupelo too is now on the squad. Not exactly excited about getting traded. We got Holcomb. We got Werner, Foskey, Breesy, Marcus May with the Dev trade upgrade. A Debo with the Dev trade upgrade. Just be rid of Cam Jordan once and for all. I'm sorry, Cam Jordan, I love you, man. Here's what basically just happened. The Steelers said, we will take Cameron Jordan and his contract from you. You can have a second round pick in exchange. So they're going to go make a deep play out push with Cam Jordan and I get a second round pick out of it. I'm cool with that. I think this could just be a really big year for Dylan Graham and Olave to go crazy and then we can worry about wide receivers in the draft or free agency. Cause we actually have cap space now. So we can actually, this is the turning point. Season three in my defense, we finally properly sucked. We went five and 12. How does that hold up statistically? Dylan Graham, not a good season. 26 to 14, much worse than last season. AT Perry led my team. Chris Olave, 978, McCutchen had a lot. Yeah, I think, I think the wide receiver depth definitely hurt us there a little bit. Stanley Holcomb had 150 pucking tackles, ATFLs, half a sack and four interceptions. Werner had four sacks and four interceptions. Nine sacks for Marcus Foster.  Bresley with four, Foskey with three. That's huge, dude. Marcus Foster wins defensive rookie of the whole league. The Chargers almost won the bowl. And in 2024, it was the Chiefs. I forgot to check that. I apologize. We are continuously getting rookies of the year. No Dev trade upgrades, Olave. No Dev trade upgrades. Cameras only getting worse. Our wide receiver depth is horrendous. I have to do some other wide receivers.  We've turned this defense around so fast. My offense is just not there yet. Matthew has to get replaced. Werner's Superstar. Olcomb is Superstar. These dudes had 150, 130 tackles, respectively. They killed it. Marcus May is Superstar, but he's old. He's regressing now.  Did he get Superstar from this or did he come out to gate Superstar? So Marcus Foster was star Dev. But you can see right there, defensive rookie of the year gave him Superstar.  Talk about the camp Jordan replacement, bro. Oh my God, we got another 10 years of just elite edge rush. 101 million available in camp space. Wow, Mark Andrews is a free agent. Doesn't really matter to me. I need a wide receiver. So I'm on week two of free agency. It looks like my computer actually picked up Romeo Dobbs, which is exactly what I would have done. Low kick up. No, I don't even need to pick up another one because AT Perry is going to be third string. So Dobbs is great. I don't got to do anything drastic quite yet because my team is still like, team is still pretty solid. We can just hang on to this cap space and sign some nuclear free agents next season. I like where our team is and we have round one. Harry Zeigler out of Florida is a very high pick. He's projected round one. Harry Zeigler out of Florida, the best safety in the class, 92 speed, 91 excel. That was actually, that was truly a no-brainer. We had to go with him right there. And our next pick is a high pick in the second round. Evan Drummond's at a USC with some greats and some solids. Let's go. We are going to have so much cap space to sign a nuclear free agent. I don't expect this season to be that great either but I think next season, free agency, trade away some of our draft picks for a really good player and draft recap, 2026 rookies. Jesus. Oh my God.  Halfback to replace Camara. And they got me a wide receiver. Dude, I keep forgetting that these back to back. So I keep simming through my own pick. Dude, Zeigler's a 79. It was such a good pick and Drummond's a 74. Oh my God. Best player in the class, Carrie Zeigler. That's so amazing, bro. Let's go. Let's see what we can do about Tyran Matthew. Tyran is so old. He's an 85 overall. Yeah, maybe I could have gotten more out of that but honestly, I want this to be realistic.  So Marcus made 33 years old but he's superstar. We actually got him to superstar when he had that six interception season. I'm going to put him on the trade block. Before the season starts, I want a running back. An arm and a leg is what that cost. We got the Jaguars super good rookie running back. They have 99 overall Travis Etienne so I figured they would be willing to trade him but dude, cost me Jose Bell, Marcus Mayne, first, a second, a third, a sixth. We are at the turning point in this rebuild where it's time that we started to ball out. Take a look. My offensive line is ready to go. I've got a 96 over a wide receiver, an 89 quarterback. We signed Dobbs in free agency. We've got AT Perry. I think we needed a serious halfback. Get the 80 overall rookie out of this state. Six one, two, 31. That's a big boy. Got Zeigler, a strong safety. Drummond at free safety. Defense is looking really, really good. Uphill was an understatement. We climbed the mountain, man. We are 11 and six. Taking on the Lions in the wild card playoff must have been a spectacular season for us. Dylan Graham, massive step up, 36 and nine. That's so good. Frederick Claiborne, dude, he might've got an offensive rookie in the year with this. 12 touchdowns, 11, 82. Such a good season. Dylan Graham starting to use his legs a little bit too. Receiving, it was all Olave. That's how we like it to be. AT Perry and Joanne Johnson had by far his best season. 874 and 11. Dobbs was solid as well. Defensively, Stanley Holcomb once again leads 60FLs. No interceptions or sacks. All our sacks came from Foskey this time. Leads the team. Then Marcus Foster. Then Tyler Wilkerson. Marshawn Latimore with four interceptions, three for a Debo. We make it through this round. I might look in and watch. I don't know if this team's really ready to... D might be ready. 28 to 25 against the Lions. Graham wins NFC. Here's our rivals, dude. Our rivals at Falcons who took us out the first time. Let's, uh... Frederick Claiborne, what? Oh my God, that dude's an X-Factor.  He's an X-Factor. He hasn't won any awards yet. He must have came out X-Factor. Oh my God, he actually came out X-Factor.  Defensively drumming. Drumming the lower overall is superstars. Zeigler is star. This might have been one of my most smooth rebuilds so far. Like, it definitely is difficult. We're not Super Bowl material yet, but we're killing it. Our draft picks have been excellent. Trains have been good. This game starts out with a Falcons touchdown. Returns with a Saints turnover. Um, play a little bit of defense. I'm gonna see my boy Holcomb. That's a 99 overall, Bijan. We gotta stop him. Okay, they don't run it. Desmond Ritter steps up and the field goal is good. All right, one final clamp. One final clamp. Marshawn Latimore is over there. Pete Werner's right here. Wow. Looks like we're probably, yeah, we are gonna lose this.  They're in the NFC South and they beat us in the playoffs now twice and we're not supposed to be ready for the playoffs. We were waiting for free agency. This is fine. Pajae Spears is the best free agency available. Yikes, these free agents are not good. Michael Gallup is superstar. Michael Wilson's the next best wide receiver. Ooh, I want Jalen Hyatt, bro. Jalen Hyatt's 25, 96 speed, 96 XL. And we can sign up to a big deal. So he's on this team for a while. Hopefully he can maybe get a dev trade upgrade. I know he already wants to be on the team. Let's just go neutral, but give him a long deal. I want you on the squad. I'll overpay just a little bit. I really want Jalen Hyatt. I'm gonna pick up Byron Young as well. Beautiful, I don't have a detackle to right now. So I think I was gonna call. I'm gonna trade away my pick for this absolute haul of picks from the Raiders next year. I'll probably flip those into a really good player. I just don't know who yet. Got a first, a second, and a seventh out of that. See if you picked me up a 72 right guard, a 73 center. Not bad. Best player in the class was 83 overall corner. Next best was the round one pick one. Quarterback then the round one pick two corner. Had a pretty significant fall off after that, but I got a lot to work with here. Let's go see what edge rusher is available. So Foskey left in free agency, but Foskey is superstar. I'm gonna try and give my boy back, man. I'm missing. What about just a first rounder? That's actually insanely close. Oh my God.  Got my boy back. Let's go. Here is your 2027 New Orleans Saints. We still have Chris Olave. We still have Joanne Johnson, and we have almost all of our offensive lines. Defensively we're looking like absolute studs. I think my defense is kind of what carries here. I have too much cap space for this to be the season low key. Like it could be the season, but if I won it all right now, I'd actually feel bad. We have like 90 million cap. There's just no good free agents to sign. There's nobody. I thought for a second I had to buy? No, dude. The Falcons are really just dominated the NFC South right now. We go seven and 10, which is an improvement. But like I said, we didn't really use free agency yet. So I'm chilling it. And it looks like we got great overalls still. Whoa. Really bad season. Really crazy. Frederick Claybourne had a spectacular season. Olave was okay. I wonder why he had such a bad season. Defensively it's Holcomb all the way and then it's Werner Holcomb had a much better season than last time. Six and a half sacks for Breezy. Five for Foster, four and a half for Foskey. Glad to have him back. D-Line really did play well. Three interceptions, Lattimore, two for Holcomb. Yeah, that was just a really bad season, unfortunately.  So ended 2027. We have the exact same team that we walked in with and we have so much cap for free agency. I just got to hope it's a good free agent class. Last free agent class sucked. The best player was Tyjay Spears, followed up by a kicker. Deandre Swift is nuts, but dude, I can't get rid of Claybourne. Claybourne's actually a 97 overall X-Factor. He's actually better. Do I pick up a tackle? Just boost the O-Line casually? Yo, do we pick up? Do we pick up Stefan Diggs X-Factor for a? Yes, we do, bro. Yes, we do. Two year deal. He's lightly interested in the team. Let's give him a player friendly deal. Let's bump the salary, bump the bonus, make him an offer and let's see how strong that is.  Dustin Tucker's in free agency. That's not a bad one year sign. Not a bad two year either. I'm gonna give him a two year. He's not gonna get much worse. Kickers don't really regress. I actually have to pick up this dude, Johnny Claxton, because my left guard walked. I forgot about that.  I'm gonna pick up Ricky Stromberg. Diggs signs, Justin Tucker signs, Stromberg signs, huge free agency. This might be the season. I expect this to be the season actually. I'm gonna keep Jalen Hyatt in the rotation. I like Jalen Hyatt. I'm gonna take Dobbs out of rotation and Diggs will come in at wide receiver three. See, it doesn't really matter. I don't really know. With this playbook, they kind of all get reps. So I don't think this matters too much, but got an X factor wide receiver. Diggs is gonna regress though. Diggs is gonna regress fast. So we gotta win it this year or next year or we're gonna have to really continue this rebuild. Here's the new look offense. Only the really the only big change here is Stefan Diggs, but I'm so excited about it. We also got Stromberg on the offensive line. Defense is unchanged. Werner goes X factor.  God, he's been amazing. He's got run stuff for 92 overall. Dude, the computer went dummy. The computer drafted me a corner in the second round.  Oh, you're, you're normal Dev. Marquis Milstead is insanely good. And he's normal Dev. Then we got Joe Castro, the 76 overall wide receiver. Computer's going hard. The computer's ensuring that this team will be a dynasty for years to come. 92 overall New Orleans Saints with a 95 offense and an 89 defense. I think this is our year. Gotta make the playoffs first though. I'm gonna do my prediction. We're going 10 and seven. We're going 10 and seven. Ooh, I did a little better than I thought. 12 and five is our best record yet. Ooh, Dylan Graham's best season by far. Not as many yards as he's once had. I think he had 4,300, but 43 and five is like MVP. What about the whole league? Could he have actually won MVP with that or did somebody else go crazy? Bryce Schoenck 34 and no, dude, he actually could have won. No, I'm always gonna get it. 40 and six with 4,501. Through the most touchdowns in the league though, and a less interceptions than the home. Frederick Claybourne of 15 touchdown, 1,700 yard season. Beach, 1,315 for Olave, 905 and eight for Diggs. Probably not what he's used to, but that's okay. It's 62 and seven. Joanne Johnson a great season and defensively. It's all Holcomb. It's all Pete Werner. It's all Latimore. Every single time five interceptions, Latimore, four Pete Werner, one for Holcomb. Marcus Foster, yo! Finally in the double digits. 12 sacks for him. Seven half briefs, he's six Foskey. Wow, we killed it.  Tough, tough, tough. 93 overall saints, taking on the 86 Vikings. They've got Jordan Addison, Danielle Hunter at X Factor. And then it's that wide receiver, Eddie Chapman. We actually, we traded up with the Vikings for Dillon Graham so they could have Dillon Graham right now. I'm only going to play a little bit here and then we'll go into Sim. Just want to try out all my boys, man. We got so many studs out here. Clamping up, big, big hit out of Pete Werner. I tried to tell Tyler all year, somebody get home, somebody get home. Foskey, fourth and 18. And I'll play a little offense now too. I'm giving a pretty big kickstart here.  I really do want to get some reps in with the team. Juwan Johnson, Chris Olave, Stefan Diggs, Frederick Claiborne, Jalen Hyatt. Look at Juwan Johnson. Oh my God, wait a minute. Juwan Johnson, Juwan Johnson. I touched down. Juwan Johnson. I'm a student. There was a point in time where I was thinking about drafting a tight end. I'm so glad we didn't. Let's let Frederick Claiborne get the two point. You got three down linemen against one of the best running backs in the league. Probably the best running back in the league. What is wrong with you? Eight to zero. Let's see what the rest of this sim has in store. No scoring until the Vikings get three. Saints get another tutty. Vikings get one of their own. It's 18 to 10. We five to 10, 25, 13. And that's all she wrote. Our first playoff win. No, our second playoff win. We did beat the Cowboys earlier, but there's a first playoff win that we watched. And wow, did we have an incredible game. Almost a perfect pass rating for Dylan Graham. Three touchdowns. Anthony Richardson was actually amazing. 231 for 42, 300 yards. He threw the ball a lot. Frederick Clayborn 15 for 71 and a touchdown. Dude, I'm telling you, when you have these insane running backs, they really change the sim stats. We had a sack out of Foster. We had a sack out of Foskey. Big dub. And now we take on the 12 and five Buccaneers. Shit. Tristan Worfes is a 99 and Winfields a 99. Devin White, Vita Vea, Jordan Love. Ashton Hampton, Jamele Dean. Peter Rose. Travis Banks, the Angelo. It's a cool team, but if we don't get past them with all the firepower we have, I'll be shocked. K, three for the Bucks. Touchdown for the Bucks. Wait a minute, 13-0. We got a score, 13-7. Stop, score, 14-13. Second and six. Tampa base turned the ball over once. Except we're just punting. We're having some empty drives here. This is a really close game. Divisional playoff. Dylan Graham unloads. Caught by Jalen Hyatt. Ooh, little cut block. Dylan Graham rolls out.  Look at that. 14-13, all the starters are in. There goes Frederick Clayborn. There goes Frederick Clayborn. Unloads. Caught. Hit him. I don't like how it went to Clayborn, but it went to Frederick Clayborn. Oh my God. Okay, so still one possession ball game.   It finally happened to me. In my first ever rebuild, the Rams rebuild, I did that to the computer. And every single rebuild since, I've never seen it until right now. We've got the pass rush going on Jordan Lovey. He checks down over the middle. Nice throw. I expect so much more out of Holcomb. He just watched Jordan Lovey start to take off. But, but, but, the biggest play is right here right now. Two point conversion. We stopped this. We win. Hand off. They go for the outside. Cut, let's go. Jalen Hyatt hands team. Let's go. Oh my God, that's so amazing. All right, that's ball game. Solid QB play by both QBs. Another three touchdown game for Graham, but Frederick Clayborn nine attempts, 62 yards. 6.8 yards for Kerry. Honestly, like, you should have given them all more. Oh my God. We're taking on the Seahawks. Seahawks is who we traded for Foskey. So we poached Foskey off of them and we have a literal mirror matchup. 95-0, 91-D, 93 overall. They're gonna have like a 99 Kenneth Walker. And what else? 99 Jackson Smith and Jigba, 99 Witherspoon, 99 Larry Ball. Oh my God, that quarterback from forever ago. Jamaical Colbert, D Tackle. Oh my God, they drafted so well. 7-7, 14-7, 21-7. Seahawks score, 28-14, 28-21. It looks like we're basically one and off away from a win here. This is a close game. Come on, Freddie. Why are we running play action? Why don't you give it to the best running back in the lead?  Or can you hit that, Justin Tucker? In the rain, though. There's a 50-90 yarder in the rain. No, we're punching. Oh my God.  To the 99 overall halfback.  Punt laser beam. Maybe coach knows something. This is the game-winning drive. They have only one time out and they are on the literal one. It's gotta be a run up the middle.  Or, or somehow Kenneth Walker will run for 16 yards out of his own end zone. They gotta go no huddle. Clock is not their friend. We need a sack. Get to Larry Ball. Second and 10. Big heeve. Caught. Kenneth Walker's gonna get out of bounds. Okay, throws over the middle. We like that.  That's deep, guys. What are we doing? Right, right. We got the abilities. Somebody's gotta bust through that. Oh, he's in bounds, huge. Do they call the timeout yet? They do. There's the timeout. They got about two plays left. They gotta go end zone every single time here. Cause if they throw inside the field of play, they're gonna regret it. They gotta go end zone. Don't you check that down to Kenneth Walker. Don't do it. Throws it away. That burnt seven seconds. That's huge. I don't know how many plays they got left now. 18, 15. Throws it away again. Passers are just getting up through the S46 passers-ons. Third and 10. Get home. Get home. Clean pocket. No man's land. He's got one play left. They gotta go basically hail Mary. Cause you can't throw this in bounds. Please, everybody drop back. You know what they're doing. Pressure on. Could have been intercepted by Holcomb, but it doesn't matter because that's the ball game. Say, hang on and head to the Super Bowl. Play-Born really wasn't that effective on the crown. No offense. It was insane. We had a turnover though. Holcomb with 11 tackles. One sack from Foster. Interception pulse into Debo. That's what won us that game. Dude, what has gotten into the Chargers? This is their third Super Bowl appearance.  Dude, did they like draft somebody who's just, they drafted that one corner, right? Other than that, like Justin Herbert, Durbin James, Lissante San, Sean Slater, Joey Bosa, Kenneth Murray, Alton Garvin. Dude, why is this team in the Super Bowl? I don't know what's going on here, but whatever. Taking on the Chargers in the Bowl, baby. Come on. Come on, Saints rebuild. Let's end in 2028. I like this. We're so close. We're so close, boys. We're so close. We're right there. Three zero Chargers, six, seven, 14, six. Ew, it's getting ugly, 17, six. They have all, that's literally, they have all field goals.  They have not gotten in the end zone. There they go in the end zone. 34 to 20 in the big game. And I think Fredrick Claiborne can put this away. Oh, we're in the all black Unis. He's looks so sick. Hand it off to my boy.  Claiborne, third and one. Wait, how is it third and one? How did you just teleport to third and one? Claiborne owns your poverty fridge. Oh, that was second. First and 10, oh my God. Oh my God. Why are the Chargers in the Super Bowl at eight and nine? This team is mid. That Seahawks team was so much better. All right, second and 11. I don't, for some reason we're handed this off. I actually don't know why. We're just rubbing it in. We should still be in victory formation right now. Yeah, we're showing up rubbing it in.  We just wanted more yards. And the final play is a Bill and Graham Neil. He had 11 rushes, 45 yards and a touchdown in the bowl. No way we hand this off.  Do it, do it. One second left in the Super Bowl. Let's go. The Saints are Super Bowl champions. Dude, that is a tough rebuild. That is actually a really tough rebuild.  I honestly think this rebuild would have been, would have taken me at least one or two more years if we didn't hit on every draft pick. Cause if you whiffed, like if I'd whiffed on QB and he was normal dev or even just star, that would change a lot. But him being superstar progressed like crazy. Foster wins defensive rookie the year that was huge for him. Pete Werner got superstar X factor. We had a lot of things go right for us and it still took six years. Bill and Graham, you earned it, buddy. I'm sorry, James. I'm sorry it couldn't be you. Bill and Graham is geeked up on the podium. Look at those Super Bowl stats. Who's going to win MVP? So Graham's got 277, two touchdowns. He probably gets it. I'm so glad we traded for him. Frederick Claybourne, 13-123 in a touchdown. It should be him. It really should be Frederick Claybourne. I don't know if he's going to get it, but it should be him. Defensively, Werner had 11, whole command nine, Werner had an interception. He could get it too. Bricea had a second. Yeah, honestly, it could be Pete Werner with 11 tackles and an interception. It could be Frederick Claybourne and it could be Dylan. I have no idea what's going to be. Let's find out.   Claybourne, the insane rookie that we traded for. Dylan Graham, now with 99 superstar X factor that we drafted, digs out of free agency. Olavé, a true New Orleans Saint. Jalen Hyatt's even looking really good right now. Joann Johnson regressing, but superstar. Offensive line looks beautiful and defensively Holcomb hits superstar X factor. Werner hits superstar X factor. To a below two is really, really solid, but he stayed normal dev the whole time. Zeigler, Drummond, Lattimore, Foskey, Brian Bricey, Byron Young, Pulse and Adibo and Jose Callaway. Who got Super Bowl MVP though? Who got Super Bowl MVP? I genuinely don't know. I think it should be. It should be Frederick Claybourne. Dude, that's rig. Honestly, 280 yards and two touchdowns is nowhere near as impressive as 13 carries 130 yards of touchdowns. That's 10 yards per carry is a back. I don't know. All right boys, amazing. We got our bowl. I appreciate you guys watching as always.  Sorry if that was annoying. I love you so much and I'll see you in the next one. Peace.


The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said on June 15 that a number of measures had been taken to stabilize the situation at the Russian-held Zaporizhya nuclear plant in Ukraine, Russian state news agency RIA reported. During a visit to the plant, which is close to the military front line, Rafael Grossi was also cited by TASS news agency as saying that IAA inspectors would remain at the plant and that Russia and Ukraine's signing a document on the plant's security remained unrealistic while the two sides were still fighting. His visit follows a disastrous breach last week in the massive Kakavka Dam nearby, which jeopardized reservoirs from which the reactors get cooling water. RIA quoted Grossi as saying that the situation at Zaporizhya was serious but that the level of cooling water remained sufficient.


You can be forgiven and and actually change course and say like you know what? I was under I was under a strange delusion and I caused a lot of harm and I see that now and shift and if we don't hold That story about people. It's not possible and there's no chance. Yeah. Yeah, if we don't hold that story then the only chance is That good overcomes evil and pitched battle. Yeah, but you know evil is better at battle The only way the only way that it changes is if some of whom we considered evil stop doing what they're doing Yeah, where they they stop doing it so efficiently because they have doubts, you know and maybe they still go to work in their corporate office and and and But they start to go through the motions instead of to really aggressively Develop new, you know lithium mines, you know, they're they're they're just not efficient anymore They're half-hearted in their advocacy of the policies Maybe they don't have the courage to step out and say no, this is wrong. Yeah, but there's something stirring within them a protest even To a certain extent addiction depression mental illness is a form of protest it says it's it's that you're Being is not unified in It's expression Some part of me does not want to do what the rest of me is doing So that can manifest as procrastination a lot of what we see is a problem where the illness is actually health Seeking to express itself. Yeah, and so I think that that's a much more realistic formula for change That you know people have a change of heart and then the question is okay How do we create conditions for a change of heart?  Yeah, and and you actually pointed out you're like Yeah, but it's it's telling a story that's actually not helpful And the story is that the animals are gonna come together and the people with the bows are gonna come together And they're gonna defeat the destruction bomb machines by some act of they're gonna defeat the machine guns with their spears Right like this this Romanticized idea of good overcoming evil and pitched battle from sheer and it's a beautiful It's a beautiful thing like the warrior spirit and the connection to a while There's a lot of beauty in that as well and heroism and romanticism But I actually saw that and I was like, yeah, you're right You know, it's actually telling the wrong story and then I watched Avatar 2. I don't know Do you see Avatar 2? No, I was a forewarned, but they just doubled down On that same mentality. I was like man, what a miss Yeah, what a miss what a miss that they couldn't convince the whalers That these beautiful creatures that they were whaling We're like we're as sentient and magical and important as they were and like instead they had to they had to sink the ships and slaughter the Right slaughter the people like it's just not the film just encourages us to think the problem is these horrible people Right now what happens when that is applied to foreign policy? war war And and and the the whole machinery and agenda of war that's like the the the spiritual and philosophical basis for the neocon long game of first destabilizing and destroying Iran Then russia then china I mean if they've they wrote about these plans 30 years ago and have been executing it step by step Not with a lot of success, but you know that hasn't stopped them from trying Hasn't stopped them from trying and You know the I mean it could escalate into nuclear conflict And that in there like I can understand it from their view It's what I just described to understand a situation First identify who's the evil and who's the good Once you've started with that Okay, you're always the good right you're never evil so It's whoever stands in the way of your domination their evil Because your domination is good because you're the good guy So the more power you have the better for everybody. Yeah problem is everybody thinks that the good guy well everybody does. Yeah Yeah, so that mindset leads inevitably to polarization right and that mindset It ultimately comes from a faulty view of the human being Which is in christianity in the form of original sin That you are fundamentally evil. It's in biology in the in the idea of a selfish gene that you know At bottom everybody is just seeking to maximize their reproductive self-interest It's woven deep into the meta religion of our time which encompasses What we call religion as well as science. It's a very deep mindset. It's the mindset of conquest And so everything we're seeing in in global affairs today and in domestic politics This widening division and intensifying polarization All comes from what you might call a spiritual error or a spiritual Journey that we've taken into separation And so when you ask like what what does a kennedy administration look like For it to even happen or for it to be anything that I would support It has to tap into this transition Into a story where we no longer hold each other In that way.  Yeah, that's what we have to do for each other And I don't think that anything less than this kind of revolution will be enough To motivate into politics


What's going on everyone Sam here with late in sports cards rip in two boxes of 2022 tops formula one chrome sapphire for Chris s. Good luck Chris see what we got in here for you buddy I am excited man. I've not ripped sapphire in a minute like since last year sapphire Also, is this the first one What do you mean this is the first one product with sapphire was there one last year I think there I think there's been one since 2020 I think it debuted in 2020. Maybe not. I don't know Yes, we have Not the next personal but the one after has NT football like NT football hobby from 21 All right, we've got jq's future stars That is going to be Sergio Perez on the yellow to 199 for red bull yellow ice to 199 Joe Guan Yu rookie and valteri boats us Yeah, that'll be a fun one for sure Esavan Okon Logan Sargent for f2 carlin Charles Claire for Ferrari. We have an extra card here. John Duravala for f2 prima and Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin If you want to mind saving them I'll just send them over like back at a time because yeah, I got you singles. Yeah, I got you So like put them to the side you're saying. Yeah, then let's go with the pack to send them over Hey, what's up, Steven? That was sorry Max Verstappen yuki Sunoda Joe Guan Yu. We've got charles claire That's 299 20 or 299 29 of 75 forgot. It's a little different with sapphire. Nice one there Lance stroll and umari core deal I see what you're saying. Okay. Yeah, I got you my bad. There you go. It's just like when you have not with every card Yeah, uh yuki sunoda and daniel ricciardo. There's only two in that one. There was there was an extra in the last two So that's probably where you got made up There was an extra. Yeah, there's two extra in one pack. That's why the carlo signs 2199 is going to be on top for ferrari Nice one there. Congrats on that. Uh, chris Appreciate that j j-rock. Fernando Alonso the lance stroll Nicholas Latifi Uh, lewis hamilton Lewis hamilton again And frederick basour for alfa romano Marcus armstrong There's nice max verstappen teal. It's a 99 and 48 out of 99 for redbull Grats on that. We've got esiban okan and ali caldwell Sergio perez. There's roya nasani on the sepia. That is 81 out of 100 Nice one there. Oh, everyone wants guan. He's a good driver. He's a really good driver, steven Alexander albana and max verstappen. I'll do it for box one Good luck on box two chris Here we go, buddy. Hey, thanks wafus by Caleb clement nova lock future stars Uh, that is max verstappen lewis hamilton on the uh portrait and joss capito chen bullock bashee green Sergio perez nice one there to 75 wahoo is gonna wahoo is right Nice one there for redbull Uh, lando norse and marcus armstrong max verstappen nicklas latifi portrait Uh, yuki sunoda and max verstappen driver of the day netherland 21 Uh, lewis hamilton that is yellow. Nicholas latifi for williams numbered 63 out of 199 kevin magnuson lando norse I just have to have it I'm gonna have to topple it regardless active of things. I don't really matter. Uh, pure ghastly There's uh, endo fitapaldi got fregik vesti and daniel riccardo See a pat prasher come out of here Hey, thanks for the gifted sub there, uh for uh j-raw. There's lando norse Got max verstappen teal to 99 52 out of 99. Thanks wahoo's appreciate that buddy Followed by a sebastian vettel And lewis hamilton not the only collect who gets in the super bowl. That's pretty funny actually interesting. I didn't know that Uh, leon lawson, there's max verstappen on the sepia 36 out of 100 nice one there driver or grand prix winner france 21 george russell and charl lecler Uh, steven said that most people don't watch racing Uh, races same situation in football. They only collect who gets into the super leagues from china There's george russell got driver of the day italy 21 daniel riccardo. That's nine out of 199 Right yuki sunoda a nice one there and max verstappen grand prix winner in belgium That will do it for your break there chris. Thanks again for the support buddy. We'll have all those cars right out to you


Hello everyone. I am Dr. Saptarshi Sena, 3rd year junior resident, Topiwala National Medical College and BYL Nair, Charitable Hospital Mumbai, affiliated to Maharashtra University of Health Sciences. My paper is on the role of ultrasonography in detecting posterior ankle pain pathologies. The aim of the study is to identify the role of ultrasonography in detecting the various causes of posterior ankle pain. Complex anatomy of the foot necessitates compartmentalized evaluation of foot. Posterior ankle region comprises soft tissue structures behind tibial taller joint and calcaneus with achilles tendon being the central axis. Imaging helps in visualization of deeper non palpable structures. Ultrasonography is a rapid dynamic and cost effective tool for tendon pathologies and joint effusion. Study design, cross sectional, study duration 3 months, place of study radiology department of BYL Nair Hospital, sample size 30, methodology. Ultrasonography was performed on patients with age ranging from 18 to 60 years on Samsung RS-80A machine using linear array transducer 3 to 16 megahertz. Exclusion criteria, history of recent ankle surgery or fracture, PRP injection in past six months. Scanning position prone with feet hanging freely from the age of examination bed. Results. The study consists of 30 patients age ranging from 18 to 60 years presenting with posterior ankle pain. Out of 30 cases included in our study, 27 that is 90 percent showed a detectable pathological cause of pain while 3 that is 10 percent did not reveal any obvious abnormality. Pathologies detected were achilles tendinosis that is the commonest 41 percent, achilles tendon tear, achilles paratinalitis, achilles xanthomas, retrocalcaneal bursitis, plantar neurofibromatosis, plantar fasciitis and plantar fibromatosis. Ultrasonography was successful in detecting the pathology in 90 percent of the cases as shown in the pie chart. Out of which 41 percent was achilles tendinosis the commonest. Posterior ankle pain is a result of wide spectrum of local and systemic conditions ranging from degenerative to inflammatory pathologies. Ultrasonography is an easily available and less time consuming modality. Stress and dynamic ultrasonography can help in diagnosing tendon tear easily. Easy comparability with the contralateral limb in case of diagnostic dilemma. Doppler examination plays pivotal role. Wide spectrum of pathologies were picked up on ultrasonography in posterior ankle pain with good diagnostic accuracy. Coming to the images as we can see in the various images showing calcific achilles enthisopathy. There is intra substance achilles calcifications noted as can be seen in the various images. The next pathology detected was achilles tendon tear. Here is a partial thickness achilles tendon tear as observed in the longitudinal and transverse sections. Here is a complete tear of the achilles tendon with waviness preserved on the proximal and distal fibres. Again a complete thickness tear of achilles tendon shown in the transverse section. Both image A and B show retrocalcaneal bursitis. Here is a case of a left planter neurofibromatosis along with the clinical image as given. Bilateral achilles tendons anthomas demonstrated over here in the images. Now coming to the pathologies of the planter fascia, posterior ankle examination is incomplete without the examination of the planter fascia as planter fascia pathologies can cause pain in posterior ankle region. Image A demonstrates a diffuse thickening of planter fascia which indicates planter fasciitis. Here is a focal thickening of planter fascia showing planter fibromatosis. Now role of color Doppler in ankle imaging. Highly raised vascularity of achilles paratinum demonstrated in image A suggestive of achilles paratinalitis. Hydrogenous ecotexture with loss of normal fibrillary pattern of achilles tendon demonstrated in image B with raised Doppler vascularity shows achilles tendinosis. Image C demonstrates retrocalcaneal bursitis where there is highly raised vascularity around the retrocalcaneal bursa with heterogeneous ecotexture of the bursa and focal defect in the calcaneus. Here are my references. Thank you.


Helo, ddweud wedi'u wneud. A oeddwn ni'n rhoi'r gweithio, rydyn ni'n meddwl ar gyfnod o'r ddechrau ceroonovirus yng Nghaerhyn. Mae'n dweud i'r ddechrau i'w gweithio'r pari ddweud i'r rhain iawn. Mae'r ddweud dros yng Nghaerhyn yn gyffredinol yn fwyaf. Efo'r 5 yma, y 7 ar ein stradio'r gweithwyr yng Nghaerhyn yn cael 175 cysylltu bryd ym 100,000. Ond we have been looking at increasing some areas. The rate for blinding gwent has been sharply over the last week. We have been raising cases in the neighbouring areas of Caefili, Tawrfaen and Newport. Perhaps most worryingly of all, as you can see in the slide, is the growth again of cases in our under-25 population. Over the last seven days or so, we've seen a rise in the number of younger people contracting coronavirus in most parts of Wales. This slide shows on the left that all Wales under 25 rate. You can see how it's fallen during and after the fire break but has now started to rise again. It also shows the over 60s rate which at the moment overall is continuing to fall. We know from the pattern of the pandemic so far in Wales that infections in younger people quickly work their way through the community and into older people. Older people are more vulnerable to serious illness if they catch coronavirus and sadly at greater risk of being admitted to hospital and dying. The power to keep the spread of coronavirus under control rests in all of our hands. It's in the many decisions that we make every single day. Should I go out and meet friends after work or should I have a chat with them online or even in the old way on the phone instead? Should I work from home this week or should I drive into the office every day? Should I go out for a meal and drinks at the weekend or just go out for a meal? The more contact we have with other people, the more normal things we do and that's the old normal, the greater the chance that we either catch or spread coronavirus. That is why we are asking not only to follow the rules but to do everything we can to reduce our contact with other people as much as possible and this is how we can keep ourselves and our families safe. I want to give a brief update about the mass testing pilot which started in Merthyr Tydfil this weekend. There's been a great response in the first few days and people living in the area over the weekend with more than 2,000 people tested. The initial results suggest a positivity rate of around about 1%. I want to encourage people living and working in the area to keep on coming forward for a test and we will be opening new testing sites in Aberfan and Daolus over the coming week. I want to thank Merthyr Tydfil Council, Cwmtaff Morganic Health Board and our military planners for all of their work which has been achieved in such a short space of time to set up this pilot and ask the people of Merthyr to keep on supporting the Team Merthyr approach. I now turn to care homes. Since the start of the pandemic in March we have worked hard to protect people living and working in our care homes. People living in care homes are some of our most vulnerable people in society and we have taken extra precautions to keep them safe. Just under half of Wales adult care homes have not reported any confirmed cases of coronavirus in other residents or staff since the start of the pandemic. We want to keep it that way because we know just how devastating it can be if coronavirus gets into a care home, as we've sadly seen in Clangotlen recently. We have made a wide package of support available for care homes including free personal protective equipment. Around 225 million items have been provided to social care since March. Extra funding to help providers and local authorities to meet additional costs, extra staffing if needed, weekly testing of care home staff, advice and guidance about infection control, the flu vaccination programme and the enhanced statutory sick pay scheme to support social care staff who have to self isolate. One of the most difficult issues that we all have to deal with, but particularly families and loved ones, have been the restrictions on visits to care homes. Today we're announcing two schemes that could help to reunite families, many of whom have not seen each other for months. We're working with 15 care homes across Wales which we hope will take part in the UK-wide pilot to test visitors using the new lateral flow devices. These tests give a result in about 20 minutes and they're the same devices we're using in the Merthyr Tidville mass testing programme. These tests will go of home managers, extra confidence and reassurance that visits can go ahead without coronavirus also being imported into the care home. These tests do not replace all the other measures such as infection control, social distancing and hand hygiene which is so important to preventing the spread of coronavirus especially in care homes. The pilot will start next Monday and if successful it will pave the way for a wider rollout to more care homes on the 14th of December. The second part of our plan focuses on providing care homes with more space to enable visiting to take place. Many homes lack the room for visits with therefore providing £3 million to install temporary pods at 100 care homes. We hope that 30 will be ready to use before Christmas and the funding includes £1 million to support homes which prefer to make their own arrangements on a similar basis. We all know how difficult this year has been for people living in care homes and their loved ones. We're working hard to find a way to safely reunite families. I want to place on record my continuing thanks to staff who work in the sector for everything they have done over the course of this year and to local authorities and the independent providers for working so closely with us. Thank you. I'll now take questions from journalists and as usual all the articles we broadcast live on our social media channels. The first question from today comes from Felicity Evans on BBC Wales. Minister, thank you very much. I know that talks between the governments of the four home nations continue over the arrangements for Christmas and you explained yesterday that there would be more talks this week but nevertheless some details of what's being discussed do seem to have emerged including that there is talk of for being more generous in terms of household mixing that's allowed for a period of between three and five days. Can you confirm that that is on the agenda and if so what is the Welsh Government's position? Well we are discussing the potential for a limited period of time to have some relaxation in the current measures in place but also discussing what we hope can be common arrangements for travel across the UK. It's a big period for people to travel. We are talking about what household mixing might look like. I've seen some of the suggestions kite flying in some reports. We haven't agreed any numbers around that but I think just as important if not more so is that we're considering here in Wales whether we can have a more common approach to measures in advance of Christmas because as I've just outlined we're starting to see in some parts of Wales a rise in coronavirus cases again an increase in under 25 so we need to get to the festive season and that may mean that we'll look to potentially think about the measures that Scotland have introduced as well as England where they have a tiered system that largely complements each other. So we'll be thinking over the next week about whether we do need to have common approaches as far as possible in terms of how we ask people to go about living their lives and that may mean that there'll be some changes. We'll think about that as England come to the end of their four-week lockdown to try to give us all the head when we want to have the sort of Christmas we want to have together but to do so in a way that keeps as many of us as safe as possible. Of course those approaches in England and Scotland are on a regional basis aren't they so is that how you envisage that might work if you were to bring it in in Wales and on a related matter. Do you support the decision by Ceredigion and Pembrokeshire councils to close some schools around the Cardigan and North Pembrokeshire areas in the case of the Cardigan area for two weeks? Well my understanding is the schools have been closed they've moved to distance learning to online learning so education is still taking place it's important to be clear about that and it's important that local authorities make choices that they think are the right thing for their local population and I know they discuss these things with partners in the area too. When it comes to the potential for measures in advance of the festive season we'll have to think very carefully about whether we would have measures in different places in different parts of the country. We saw when we had the local protection areas across local authorities that initially that made some sense particularly into distinct action in distinct areas it was then less coherent as more and more areas had local protection measures introduced and we did say coming out of the firebreak we wanted to have a consistent set of national measures that would aid understanding and help the public into the guiding and supporting choices to reduce our risk and so I haven't to think about that and so I wouldn't say that we can expect to have a patchwork approach within Wales but we'll need to consider that discuss that here with our cabinet discuss that with our chief medical officer to get the advice from him and our scientific advisers and to then think about how can we have the maximum simplicity in our message to help people to make choices in their everyday life so all of us can take care of ourselves and each other. Thank you Felicity, I've now got Aidan Masters from ITV Wales. Thank you Minister. Could you say how could you assess the nationwide firebreak restrictions particularly the effect on the NHS in a large part the whole firebreak was aimed at reducing pressure on the NHS has that worked is the NHS now under less pressure? Well I think I start by saying the firebreak wasn't just about reducing pressure on our national health service the firebreak was actually about trying to yes make sure that our national health service doesn't become over topped but if our health service can't cope then actually you need to understand that in terms of the harm that's caused to people because our NHS is very busy at present we've got significant numbers of people in hospital beds in our national health service starting to level off and we do expect we'll start to see a fall in the numbers of people coming into our hospitals but all of those people in hospital beds are suffering harm because they're ill enough to need to be in a hospital bed and unfortunately that also means that a number of those people won't leave because we know that if we have large numbers of people with COVID in our hospitals some of those people will pass away and that's also the point it's not just protect the NHS it's actually protect lives and livelihoods too and within that it's really important we think about our staff our staff went through extraordinary measures to protect us through the first peak they haven't really had a break and now before we get into the normal winter period with the normal flu season circulating our staff run a tremendous pressure on already having to make choice about which services to run about expanding our critical care capacity too so in protecting our NHS we're talking about protecting the public but we're also talking about looking after our staff because we will need them not just for the next few weeks not just the next few months but the future of our health services is already here today in the staff we have and we need to make sure we're doing the right thing for us yes our families but also right thing for our health care staff too. Thank you and could I ask you a question about the practicalities of the mass testing that's going on in Murthyr and may get used in in other areas we've had some concerns about the cues for mass testing that people worried that that could be a way of spreading disease is that a valid concern if it is do you share it and if it is a concern what steps are you taking to try to alleviate it? Well it's been an obvious concern that's been taken account of in the planning so that's not just about social distancing in the cueing and in the messaging it's also why there'll be many more centres opened up around the county over the coming couple of weeks but it's also about the fact that where the current centre is for people who don't have symptoms, if people arrive and they have symptoms then there's a mobile testing unit for symptomatic individuals too and people are being diverted away from those cues if they've actually got symptoms so we're asking people to be responsible when they arrive and to follow the guidance about social distancing and for symptomatic people to identify themselves and they'll be sent off and tested somewhere else but it's near the same site so you've got the asymptomatic symptom free testing taking place and next to that you've also got a mobile testing unit run by the Welsh ambulance service trust to test those people too so it's it's as response one of the approaches we can provide to people to give them the assurance they want and ultimately we've managed to identify some people who didn't have symptoms already from the first 2000 tests or so so I'm really proud of the team in Merthyr, we've worked together at real pace to do this and I'm also really proud of the initial response of the people in Merthyr Tydfil too and we look forward to seeing that continue in the coming few weeks ahead. Thank you Adrian and I've got Thomas Evans from there with you. Si'n rhaid i'r prwn dych chi wedi dych i ddiolch yn fawr i chi. Just to start you mentioned the difficult decisions that people will have to make over the next few weeks. Many people will still be in two minds about whether to travel home for Christmas if they do decide to do that and if the rules allow for it what should they do or what can they do to mitigate the spread of COVID-19? Well this is about all of us managing our risk so it is about the number of people you see, the contact you have, if you're moving from one part of the country to another whether it's within Wales or in other parts of the United Kingdom. There may also be in particular to think about the length of time they see other people beforehand or other actually they can take a complete break from seeing other people before they travel potentially to stay with other family or friends because indoor mixing is the area of our greatest concern so the fewer people you have in your home the better and actually you can avoid going into someone at home the better as well. We know that there will be people who will stay with family and friends over the festive season so if you can avoid that sort of contact in advance of that then that will be you helping to do the right thing and again don't forget the basics about social distancing about good hand hygiene about wearing a mask whenever possible. If you get symptoms get tested because we do know that people are most likely to be at their most infectious immediately before they get symptoms and then for the next few days afterwards so that's the time when you can potentially provide the greatest spread to other people and I know that could be difficult people about getting symptomatic and if you like the wrong time they want to travel but if you do travel and you see people when you're symptomatic you're much more likely to give them coronavirus. I haven't been in my mother's house to be indoors and to give her a hug since March. I'd love to see my mum and go inside her house this Christmas but I want to see my mum on her birthday when it comes up again next year and I want to see her on my birthday my son's birthday and I want to be able to see her next Christmas too so some of our challenges are about thinking about what we need to do in a very different way this year to make sure we can still celebrate future life events with our loved ones. Diolch yn fawr am hynny. Students travelling home for the Christmas holidays will be offered asymptomatic testing. Is that something that you're considering to roll up more widely and do you have the capacity to do so? Well there's a particular challenge or concern about the student population because they're less likely to become unwell but we do know there's been circulation events in lots of our higher education institutions about giving people confidence they can travel back safely and not represent a risk to their own family and friends who they would see when returning to normally their parental home for the festive season in any event and that's important so if there is a challenge they can isolate and reduce that risk for other people because of course the traditional undergraduate in their late teens or early 20s may have a much lower profile of risk not zero risk but a lower chance of real harm from coronavirus but people in their parents or grandparents generation are much like it have different risks as well and so we're needed to think about not just that plan now and my colleague the education minister Kirsty Williams has been engaged in all in conversation with all the other governments in the UK about this too together with people in the testing program in the health department but also think you're head to what might happen when university term recommences in January and you know from the most the tidbil mass testing pilot that we are considering not just what happens in that pilot but the potential for further examples of that within Wales and we're also considering the potential for other groups of staff to have testing programs in the way that we currently do testing for care home staff as well this is a fast moving picture we need to be nimble and to make choices very quickly and I expect to have more to say on this area within the next week or so thank you Thomas I've now got Mark Smith from Wales online thank you very much indeed health minister during this pandemic the Welsh government has repeatedly enforced the message of making plans first and announcing them afterwards with regard to a four nations approach to Christmas and obviously lots of details and suggestions of things like bubble sizes have been reported widely in the national media this weekend of any formal announcements indeed at one stage it appeared the prime minister was going to outline the details of Christmas arrangements before the devolved administrations had had the chance to discuss the proposals at cabin level so therefore is the Welsh government satisfied with the way these discussions have been handled and is there any chance Wales could opt out of any immediate announcement and reveal its own plan separately well this weekend the first minister had a constructive conversation with other first ministers and Michael Goh for the UK government there was clarity and agreement that we want to have as common an approach as possible across all four countries because of the reality of people traveling but also the simplicity in the message so people can understand what's being proposed and we're hopeful that we will get to as common a position as possible within the next few days we're also clear they are following that discussion that there was a desire to have as common an announcement as possible as well so people don't go off in different directions now I can't speak for who's briefing around the UK government and when I know there's been speculation our cabinet meets today there should be another four nations meeting within the next day or two and that then may mean that we're at a decision point if we get there then we can have that common approach if at all possible and also as common an announcement as all that's still our expectation and we're working towards that and I think people across not just Wales but the rest of the UK really want all four governments to work together on this so people have the fairest prospect possible of understanding not just what the measures are but also understanding how you can actually reduce your risk and to think about what the plans you want to make to see people over the festive period in the lead up to it during the festive period and obviously there are challenges for order for that what comes afterwards thank you very much indeed and secondly you have mentioned this touched upon it briefly but what's your message to people on how to behave over Christmas in terms of obviously people seem to be expecting rules to be relaxed with more households being over five days or so does this mean they can spend five full days in large family groups or would you have to be saying instead that there's kind of a five day window in place but that's simply to enable families to meet in smaller groups for say one meal or a night at some point within those five days well this comes back to our challenge about just talking about the rules or asking people to think of what they should do and the first point is to get to Christmas because the rise we see in cases in some parts where there's a real concern and so it's important people think again about where we are now and that's why we're thinking about as common an approach as possible in the run-up to Christmas as well and as I say we'll need to discuss that within the government to consider what the new arrangements might be for England when they come out of their four week lockdown next week so we'll need to think carefully about that and to think about whether there's value and benefit for all of us to have if possible as common an approach as possible across all four nations in the run-up to the festive season then whatever the rules say we're still going to ask people to think what they should do you know we're looking to reflect the reality that people if the rules said you can't meet anybody else over Christmas people would do it anyway and we're not looking to have people pretending to commit offences for the natural issue of wanting to see people around this period of time but to help people to shape some of that behaviour and again think about what should I do and your point about we're not asking people to live in large extended household groups for five three four or whatever the period of time is that we land on it's more about this is enabling people to have some contact but it's still then about managing that conduct and reducing it as far as possible and reducing the length of time as far as possible as well so again to think about you and me and who we'd want to see over this Christmas but also think who would we like to see again and again and again in the future and not to have the unnecessary risk of losing those people if we're not prepared to be responsible and to limit the content we have in advance of Christmas during Christmas and afterwards too thank you mark and I've got Rebecca Miles from LBC thank you health minister so we have heard more positive news this morning about another potential coronavirus vaccine we know that with the Barnett formula Wales will get its population share you've previously said as a population in Wales we're older, sicker and poorer than that we see in England so potentially more vulnerable people here should the allocation not be based on a need and are we going to have enough well if we wanted to unpick and have new arrangements to agree the basis on which we provide vaccines and moved outside the population share that Barnett sets out I think we could very quickly find ourselves mired in difficulty that mean we couldn't have an understandable basis to have the vaccine provide in and of course if we have a series of vaccines that meet the regulatory approval and are safe and effective to use then we should have enough to have population coverage across the whole UK including here in Wales so we will get a fair share that's guaranteed the Welsh Government has already been clear I've decided that we'll use the expert advice from the joint committee on vaccinations and immunisation to help target who will vaccinate first to protect people at the highest risk and we should get to a point where we can have that population coverage to provide a significant measure of protection but the message for today has to be that hope is in the future and we have several months before we get there so again not to lose sight of our behaviour and our choices today on that behaviour we've heard super spreader events so-called super spreader events parties pub crawls have been blamed for a blame for a big rise in cases in parts of Ceredigion with a random dozen schools that are closed and in Pembrokeshire so what shall we action to this and you mentioned about potential more local rules what would they look like? Well we're thinking about whether we should have something that is more common to the approach that's been taken in both Scotland and England and to an extent in Northern Ireland as well so thinking about would would there be benefit for all of us in having a more common set of measures in advance of Christmas because I think that would really help with the message for the public and to get us to the point we have more headroom for the festive season when we know there will be more mixing between different groups of people. The challenge again for today is to not think that we can go back to the old normal whether that's the middle of the summer when coronavirus was successfully suppressed to a very low level or indeed before the pandemic at all because that has real consequences for the spread of coronavirus and the harm that it will inevitably cause and again if you're a young fit healthy adult you may consider that you don't have a great risk but we know that people don't live their lives in that sort of segmented way where only young people see only young people. We're talking about university students going back to see their families primarily over the festive season over the break at the end of university so people do mix across different age ranges and that's why we haven't gone for an approach to essentially ask older people to lock themselves away some people have said that's what we should do we said we don't think that's fair but also it doesn't reflect how people live and that's why we're not taking an approach or shielding people in the over 60s group and asking them not to live their lives in the same way we're asking everyone else to make choices about reducing your contact with other people reduce the time you spend with other people and it's for all of us to take on our own share of responsibility to yes look after ourselves but also to take care of each other and to recognise the choices we make will continue to have a significant bearing on how many of us are left to enjoy the future at the end of the pandemic. Thank you Rebekah, now I've got Harry Evans from the Daily Post. John, dda'r gwneud dog. Do you have any updates from the situation at Llangoslen Wychhan Kerrwm? Not a specific update but if you're looking for specific updates we can talk with both the local authority and the regulator Care Inspectorate Wales to see if we can provide you with a specific update if that's what you like. If you do then please get in touch with us here and we'll provide that for you in the Daily Post. How can you assure people that care homes are safe places for the family members to be over the Christmas period? Well that's why we're piloting some measures now so there'll be care homes in every health board area of Wales who will get coverage across the country. We'll be using the lateral flow devices that are being used in Mertha to identify new cases. People are asymptomatic and it's about giving confidence both to the providers and the staff in the care home but also to family members and loved ones themselves because a lot of them have not visited even though they've wanted to and not tried to visit because they're concerned themselves about potentially causing harm to loved ones in that environment and other people that they share that care home environment with as well. So the tests and the pilot will help us to understand not just about whether a safer visiting process is possible but also about how we could roll that out across the country if the pilot does show that it's safe to do so and we know that this is part of a really difficult challenge isn't it? On the one hand we're protecting people in care homes and we know that coronavirus gets in by staff or by visitors and they're the common ways that coronavirus can get in or by new admissions from outside the care home. If we're going to do something about that then we need to think about how can we have a process that protects people as far as possible and manages all of those different risks so the pilot is good news for everybody in Wales. We'll also have additional learning from the pilot that's taking place in England too so not just visiting to put people at risk but a safer possible way to visit and have some contact with loved ones and that goes alongside of course the measures we're taking to help care homes who can't do it themselves to create a different sort of environment for visits that could take place in the future. Thank you Harry I've now got Rob Taylor from rexham.com. Good afternoon. Two weeks ago the First Minister said he'd been told the latest outbreak at Rexham hospital was under control and small. The latest update on Friday had cases up to 49 from 20 a week before. Is it still classes under control? No there is an active infection that's being managed, an outbreak in the Myla so it has got worse where it was two weeks ago. We've seen another recent respite so we're looking to understand exactly what's happening and the measures being taken and again Rob this really highlights this pernicious infection. It's highly contagious and if you think you have it under control then a breach to our defences can lead to significant harm very very quickly and with community transmission rates as high as they are today in most parts of our country and that's what's so important for us all to take the right steps so the points about face coverings, about hand hygiene, about keeping our distance and it's also what's so important for people to make use of PPE in different settings and those really strict infection prevention control measures. Even with all of those happening but the level of transmission taking place it is still possible that we'll continue to see outbreaks in our hospitals and that's why we're all looking to see how far can we suppress coronavirus because otherwise it will cause harm in each of these closed environments. Thank you and given the rising cases in schools in particular secondary settings a new evidence suggesting it's more widespread than the first first thought we'll watch government look to closed schools early initiative for Christmas given a period of time before Christmas to create a buffer period. Well we think about the variety of different measures as I said earlier and we're having to talk about the harm that comes from school closure too because as I say we know very very clearly that not having schooling take place in the way that it didn't for nearly six months cause real harm in particular to secondary school learners and that's both the harm in the immediate period in particular the impact on mental health and well-being but it's also the loss of educational achievement as well and that has really significant consequences for people's futures. The good news is that of course even teenagers are less likely to suffer significant harm themselves and have seen the new measures that has been taken and announced by the Education Minister today on face coverings and you'll also see that the way that schools are organised it demonstrates that our staff are not in a high-risk profession that is because the the effect of social distancing that is taking place within our schools and will of course continue to look at the evidence and I'll be particularly interested together with the Education Minister to see what results we get from the testing around the three high schools and the college in Merthyr Tydfil as well there'll be lessons there for the whole country and we have a range of measures to consider in advance of the festive season as well as afterwards Rob. So rather than giving a running commentary we'll look to think about the measures that we think we need to put in place to protect everyone across the country and as soon as we're in a position to do so we'll of course make that clear to both the Senedd and the public. Thank you Rob and Andrew Nuttall from the Leader. Thank you Minister. What evidence have you got that sort of says the firebreak in Wales or has is there evidence that the firebreak in Wales has given the best chance of people to be able to see their loved ones over Christmas in a way that they would not prefer particularly given that the announcements that are due to be made regarding Christmas celebrations Well in the slide we had last week we showed a very sharp decline in the number of new infections and so we're starting to see that as part of the impact of the firebreak that will eventually feed through into what we expect should be a period of reducing admissions into our hospitals and we're starting to see a leveling off in the number of admissions into our hospitals here in Wales and we haven't seen that a significant and continued rise in hospital admissions that's really important to give breathing space for our national health service so we have got good evidence the firebreak has been effective. The challenge is what we're all prepared to do now to make sure that we can get to Christmas and have a period of some relaxation because as I say we know that even if we had rules in place to try to prevent people seeing their loved ones on Christmas, our reindeer people would do that anyways. This is the difficult balance in trying to help people to shape choices to reduce risk as far as possible but to get to Christmas that's why we're having to think about the potential for alternative measures and to think about a consistent way potentially to do that for choices we might make in Wales to have that approach that as I say Scotland and England have a broadly similar and common approach and so we'll need to think about that too. Thank you and it's been touched on not previously with Cason and Goughlin in the care home but we've been sort of inundated with messages from people sort of having similar worries about their own families in different care home settings and so what can your sort of message be to people with family in other care homes that have similar worries? Is it made for a bit of an unsettling read? Well it's a significant concern for ministers and officials here in the Welsh Government too. We know that as I said at the start if coronavirus gets into a care home environment it can cause real and significant harm and very quickly too that's why the focus on infection prevention and control measures on PPE on having the regular staff testing programme and of course on good ventilation across those environments is really important and it's then up to all of us to think about what we do because in the choices we make we don't necessarily consider the choice we are making how many people we see may have an impact in a care home and yet actually high levels of community transmission I mean harm is much more likely to get into our care homes because the staff live within the rest of community with all of us and so if you have high levels of transmission in the community there's a heightened risk of those people going into the care home environment too even with a regular testing programme so the choices we make matter for everyone that we've seen for people we may not understand we're having a contact relationship with who may work in different environments so all of us need to consider our choices we'll continue to do what the evidence says we should do we'll continue to write as much confidence as we can for the care home sector for staff working in that environment but also as I said earlier the pilot for visiting the rapid testing should enable some visiting to take place and we should learn a lot from that pilot in the 15 care homes will take part in it here in Wales thank you Andrew and I've got Tom Magler from Careers World thank you minister you mentioned earlier on about taking technical advice on who should be vaccinated first public health Wales has published an interim list of vaccine eligibility the viewers who've been looking through it say well it doesn't seem to mention unpaid carers it's simply a list of age bans getting younger shouldn't unpaid carers be ranked alongside NHS staff and care workers especially some suggest those unpaid carers visiting a friend or relative in a care home well that does depend on the risk profile of not just a carer but the person they're caring for as well and that's what makes it rather more difficult to have a whole categorisation for every single unpaid carer and so that's part the challenge we'll need to work through and there'll need to be conversations not just with public health worlds about the advice they give but then to look to give clarity to people that can understand that it's fair fair to those people who aren't carers but are nevertheless in a different risk group but equally fair to those people who are carers with their additional responsibilities and the risk not just for them but for other people they're caring for as well so I do recognise fully the point you're making Tom thank you very much for that one of our viewers in keridigion has come up with what may seem to be a radical idea about vaccine prioritisation at first she says obviously NHS and social care staff should be first naturally but then she says shouldn't the illegal party go as the super spreaders and those flouting the rules be vaccinated next in order to protect all of us I'd be interested in your thoughts well the couple of immediate challenges spring to my mind Tom are that for those people who are in higher risk groups of harm they may not think it's fair to deliberately look for people who are not being responsible provide them with a vaccine because actually the first iteration of the vaccine should really be about protecting people at the greatest level of harm to save lives and if we chose not to do that those people were potentially still be at risk with community transmission levels at the rate they are the second point also is that of course not just a messaging for those people who have it also may not think that's fair but if we ask people who are undertaking riskier behaviour and ignoring the rules come forward for a vaccine I'm not sure we'd have a significantly positive take from people who'd volunteer they've essentially been breaking the law on not behaving in a sensible way so if you could pinpoint some of this you'd have a range of different choices to make but I don't think I'm giving any secrets away to say that that isn't going to be the approach that we're going to take in the Welsh Government to help keep the whole of Wales safe as ever thank you for your questions not just Tom but everybody today and I look forward to seeing you again in the near future take care