Welcome to the first OEG, OE Global Live. I'm Alan Levine and I'm here to start the show with you and hopefully not fill up the space with me because it's really about the guests that we're having. But I just wanna say this is something that we kind of experimented during Open Education Week and it was really great to have these informal unstructured conversations online. And it's something that we wanna be able to continue going on. And just as it happened through the channels of OEG Connect or wherever, heard from our colleague, Judith, who I'm gonna bring on stage now, that she was working on this new OER about climate change and welcome, Judith. Like I can't believe you're making this your launch for your new OER, but say hello and whatever you wanna say, tell us about your t-shirt. Alan, hey, thank you so much for having me. I'm just so excited to be a guest on this inaugural version of OEG Live. And yeah, I'm Judith Sebesta and I'm based in Austin, Texas. And I am a fairly recent climate change advocate. Hence my t-shirt. I just made this last night advocating for planet over profit. And yeah, this has given me a reason to complete my passion project, which is what I'll be talking about today, which is an open educational resource focused on climate change depicted in narrative film. And so like I said, this gave me a chance, that really gave me a deadline so that I really got over the finish line to, oh, Karen, hey, how you doing? Good to see you there. I was able to take this resource over the finish line at least enough to publish it on press books and get it out in the world and use this as kind of my informal book launch. So thank you so much for the opportunity, Alan. Oh yes, and we're gonna start and we're gonna get a chance to see the new book, the brand new press books, which we're really excited to see and learn and share. We do have Brian Alexander coming on, a colleague of mine and good friend. He is actually just wrapping up his own seminar series. And so he's gonna be kind of dropping in late, but I said, that's how this show is gonna work. You know, people will come in and go out and we're just gonna wing it from there. So maybe start out why you said this was the relatively new idea for you to break up climate change. So what was the impetus to do this project? You know, Alan, I'm almost embarrassed to admit this, that I'm one of those cliche people who until climate change affected me directly and personally, I really didn't pay that much attention to it. I wasn't a climate denier and I'm a great believer in science and the ability of science to help better our world and help us better understand our world and the challenges within it. But it just had not directly affected me. And I have to admit also that my father worked in the oil industry here in Texas my whole life. So there was kind of a familial reason why my family supported fossil fuels and it's money from the fossil fuel industry. Oh gosh, my father actually might be watching this. I'm not sure. It's money from the fossil fuel industry that paid for my college, for my master's degree partly for support during my PhD. So in a way I owe quite a bit to the fossil fuel industry but let me tell you that two years ago, a little over two years ago in Austin, some of you might be aware that we had what I refer to and some others do snowmageddon or snowpocalypse. And we had this really on just unprecedented freezing event in Austin. I was without power for five days. I was without hot water for six weeks. It's a first world problem, I know. But it really shook me and shook my belief in my incredibly privileged position of not being directly affected by things. And that was really the beginning. And again, everybody that's here, I understand this is a really privileged position that I'm coming from. But it really just spurred me to start researching and looking more into what is the existential crisis of our planet and make no mistake. This is a planetary problem. It's a planetary issue because we all share the same earth and the same air, ultimately the same waters that are all connected. We are all connected like the force because it's made the force with you. I'm a big Star Wars fan. We are all connected. And this is a problem that we all share. So that's kind of what got me on the road to being a advocate fighting for solutions to human-caused climate change. Climate change isn't new. Human-caused, the problems that human-caused climate change have caused are just growing exponentially, exponentially. Something I think younger generations understand. And I think we all need to understand. I need to do something about it. So this, I also am very passionate about film. And this is kind of a way for me to harness that passion with something out there to help people better understand what we're dealing with and what potential solutions there might be. That's the whole answer to that question, Alan. That's okay. Do you remember like some of the movies you watched maybe growing up or that kind of included like these, like I know I used to watch a fair number of science fiction and, you know, and then of course you get mixed in with the novels that where the different climates in them were present. Like is there one that stands out for you that is memorable? Yeah, Alan.  But, you know, I saw Soylent Green with Charlton Heston. It's made of people. You're one of the scenery. Oh, you just gave away the... Sorry, I'm terrible. I saw that at a relatively young age, not when it first came out in the early 70s, but just dating myself. But I saw it at a fairly young age and it really kind of stuck with me more and more, not in my backyard climate activists, love it, yeah. But it wasn't, you know, and then it wasn't really until I got to be an adult and saw a film called Waterworld with Kevin Costner. And that, even though it's never mentioned explicitly, really is, you know, not very explicitly, is about the global warming and the effects of that. That's featured quite prominently in the book. Avatar is another that's featured quite prominently in the text. And probably one of my favorite Clifi films that I analyze here. And that really, even before the snowpocalypse that happened here in Austin, Texas, got me thinking about these issues with Snowpiercer. The Snowpiercer, if you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it, Chris Evans, before Chris Evans became the big Chris Evans that he is now. It's a really amazing film. Most recently, and the final film I analyze is Don't Look Up. And that coincided quite a bit with my personal experience and that was the one that really spurred me to write this book. It's not necessarily my favorite Clifi film, but because it's most recent, I think it really did affect my decision to create this resource. Okay, so I mean, well, this is the premiere. Should we show it and then we can talk about it? Or what does the audience think? Do you wanna see Judas? And I'll leave it to you to say like when we can put the link on screen, maybe after you show it, and then we'll let people get access to it. But you're getting here on OEG Live, the premiere of Judas' open textbook on climate change. Hopefully I clicked on the right things there, Alan, and you could get that pulled up. So yes, thank you. Funny that you ask, twist my arm, right? So here it is with great appreciation to Pressbooks and how user-friendly Pressbooks is to publish open educational resources. But I also, this is also now available on OER Commons. So you can do a search either in Pressbooks for it or in OER Commons, but we'll put the direct link to this. I'm not gonna take a lot of time giving you a tour of it, but I just like you to kind of have a general sense of what some of the topics are within the text here. I've got your usual front matter, including an accessibility statement and what I've done to attempt to assure that this is accessible to as many learners and readers as possible and viewers because it's quite video heavy. And notice that I've utilized some film terminology throughout here. I call myself an auteur, which is a film terminology or film term. I set the scene for it. I have opening credits. But then what I've done is I have organized this thematically, the films that I explore thematically. But I start because I myself am not a client science expert. I begin with climate change science, the facts, which is a chapter that is a primer on climate science in communicating climate change, a guide for educators. So I have to give a nod and give attribution to Ann Armstrong, to Mary and Krasny and Jonathan Schult who wrote that book and gave it an open license so that I could utilize it verbatim within this text. I talk a little bit about why narrative film, which maybe Alan, we could come back to as opposed to documentary film. There's a specific reason why I focus on narrative as opposed to documentary film. And then I just kind of talk about what are clarify films, give a little overview. And then I delve into my various topics of humans versus aliens or nature, post-climate apocalyptic dystopias, heroes and Deus ex machina to borrow a term from ancient Greek theater, psychological thrillers, comedies, believe it or not, because there are some clarify films that are very much comedies and humorous, don't look up being one of them. And then I talk a little bit about the future of climate fiction films because we are seeing these more and more, I would argue. And I have some closing credits there, including a badge that you can download for moving through this text. The other thing that I wanna mention is that there are interactive quizzes at the end of most of the chapters, but they're not directly in this press book because the subscription that I have as an individual user does not allow me to use HP5, sorry, H5P within press books. So what I had to do was create them on my own website and link out to them. So press books, I wish you'd make it so that we individual users if I might be missing something, but I could not have them directly embedded within the text, but they link out to my own website so that you can do these interactive texts. And the one last thing that I wanna show, Alan, is just how kind of video heavy, let me go into one of the chapters.  And you'll note that there are videos embedded within the text of trailers for the films, clips that are available, these are all on YouTube. And so they are captioned on YouTube, except, yeah, they're all pretty much available on YouTube.  But what I'm hoping that folks will want to do is to go and to watch as many of these films as they can, so many of them are available on DVD, Blu-ray, streaming. So hopefully you get a little taste of that. And along the way, I talk a little bit about myself and some of the things I've already mentioned today. So that's a little tour of the text. Alan, I'm gonna go ahead and- Thank you, yeah, and I'm gonna interrupt because I wanna bring on Brian Alexander, who is just here, coming off of his other forum. And I threw him in here and didn't explain, but hello, Brian. Where am I? What's going on? It's all climate change, right? Oh, it is. I feel right at home. Yeah. Even as my video tiles around the screen. Hello, Alan, and hello, Professor Sebetska. Or, I'm sorry, Sebesta. Oh, no worry, Brian, I'm here. Nice to see you, because I think actually we've met before, but yeah, nice to see you. We may have. Your class sounds fantastic. Oh, thank you so much. Well, and it's not a class yet. I would love it. And I'd like to just put out in the world. If somebody would wanna hire me to teach an adjunct a class based on this, I would love it. So I am a former professor. I taught theater for about 15 years, but I'm now more interested in film. Hey, by the way, Karen, the day after tomorrow is included. She just mentioned the Clifi film, Karen. Nice job. Oh, God. Not like the Clifi film, but it is one of them. We already missed the mention of Waterworld, which- Oh, oh. Oh, oh. My bolt. I didn't think that much of it when I first saw it, but on review, watch it again. On reviewing it actually, it's from a feminist perspective, it's highly problematic. Oh, yeah. Okay, it's traumatic on a number of levels, but it actually, it has some value, I would argue. I would. You don't want it to sink beneath the waves. No. There's so much I want to go into, but first I want to give Brian a chance to come on and talk about this book that's sitting behind him and how he got into climate change. But first of all, like do the intro, Brian. Tell us where you are and what you do. Maybe just what you just finished doing. I just saw you in your web bar. Sure. I'm a futurist. I specialize in the future of higher education. I'm coming to you geographically from Northeastern Virginia, right near Washington, DC. There is at least one cat trying to climb on me. So you may see a fuzzy invader occur any second now.  And hello, Karen. It's really good to see you. I, among other things, run a weekly video conference about the future of education called the Future Transform. Just now we had a great discussion about generated AI with roughly 200 people going frantically, talking about everything from hands-on tech to faculty support to politics and robocologists. My previous book was called Academia Next and it took a look at the next 25 years of American higher education. So it was pretty narrowly scoped. And after it came out, people read it, I was happy with this. I wanted to do a bigger book on a broader subjects. I wanted to cover all of higher education globally and to look ahead to the next 75 years. And as I was working on this insanely huge project, I realized that, among other things, climate change was looming larger and larger in the world but wasn't appearing in most of higher education. I saw very little discussion of it anywhere, scholarly literature, the periodicals, conferences, and it was beginning to just really frustrate me and make me concerned. So I ended up focusing on that and producing Universities on Fire, which takes a look at what climate change may mean for colleges and universities worldwide. It looks at that from a whole series of perspectives, including what happens to physical campuses, to how our research mission may change, to impact on our teaching and learning mission, to how campuses interact with the community around us. It just came out a few weeks ago already. It's gotten some attention. And I'd be happy to talk about it all the time, but I'd also like to learn more about all of you and what you're all thinking and the connections of climate change and higher ed for you. That's fantastic. And one of the things Judith sort of mentioned about some of her, an event that happened, the big storm that happened in her area in Austin a few years ago, it's kind of a wake up call. This is something you've been monitoring for a while, but what was it that finally clicked for you, Sissette? It's time to do this focus on climate change and higher education. Was that for me or for Judith? For you, yeah. Partly there was no one tipping point. I mean, partly it just seemed staggeringly obvious. In the futures community, we now think that you have to include climate change as part of any forecast. And then not doing so is a kind of malpractice. So looking and seeing faculty, staff, administrators, not encountering this or not speaking of it just became very, very weird and unsettling for me. And then the more research I dug into, the deeper the problem got. And I can find people in all fields from athletics to libraries to technologies to student recruitment and all academic disciplines from philosophy and art to atmospheric science. We're already starting to talk about it, but there didn't seem to be any larger discourse or conversation on it. And then when I've raised the topic, I've gotten some really strange pushback. I asked a group of faculty what they thought about the idea of flying less. One of them told me I must be a Trump supporter. One called me I was openly anti-intellectual. One said I couldn't be a real academic for posing the question. And I've talked to a bunch of presidents and deans and trustees about this. And I find almost no climate deniers. What I see are people who either think that the subject is so explosive that to mention it is too risky politically or that they just don't see any traction. They could look at small steps, right? We'll teach an extra class, maybe we'll do more recycling on campus. Beyond that, they just don't see what they can do next, which I find fascinating. And on top of that, I mean, you have a lot of faculty and staff who are exhausted. I mean, we're right now in years of a huge pandemic. We're coming off of, among other things, economic wildness and political stress. A lot of faculty and staff, not to mention students are hosed. I mean, it's really difficult to say, by the way, we need you to help grapple with the biggest problem facing human civilization. And it's gonna take a hundred years to get a handle on it. And we may not have that time. Well, that's the thing. I'm not seeing that sensibility, Judith, anywhere in academia. When I talk to people over 50, over 40, they're like, well, this'll be an issue for my descendants or this is something to worry about in the year 2090. Like, no, you're not seeing the science here, right? I mean, this is, we have to act now. There's a fun, I don't know if you've seen this and Judith, this would be a great one for your syllabus. Have you seen The Age of Stupid? No. Grab a copy. It's a little, I don't recall it.  And I think the entire cast is the actor, P. Possilthwaite. British Ag, British Ag.  And he says, well, we think things started to really go wrong around 1990, which is what we call The Age of Stupid. And whenever I show this to people who are like, oh yeah, that's credible. But the immediate goal of being able to do stuff now when I talk to students, traditional age students, they're all over this. They grew up with Captain Planet, right? They grew up with all the science. In fact, I've given presentations at big academic events where the tech staff, the media services crew who are under 50 will come to me and thank me because they think this is such an important topic. But the presidents, the deans would be much slower to respond. I call the book The University is on fire because it is that urgent. Yeah. Oh, Brian, I could not agree more. And I'd love Karen's comment. What if all higher education was focused around addressing climate change? It needs to be taught. And as you mentioned, Brian, across the curriculum. And part of my reasoning for creating my resource is that often film can be a way in for folks who otherwise aren't that interested. And I argue that it sometimes can be those blockbuster films that we might dismiss like a water world, like an avatar that can reach vast amounts of audience members.  Oh, thank you for sharing that link, Alan or Mario. You just never know. And the numbers of audience members and minds that you can reach through blockbuster films alone is huge. Now, I go the range of blockbusters which are little independent films. You've not been taken away from my best point.  And you can read about it in my book. But as you said, Brian, I mean, it is the existential crisis of our world and it's that important. But Brian, I try to be an optimist but I'm just unfortunately a little bit of a pessimist enough to know that or to think that a lot of people know they're just not willing to change. They just don't want to give up their comforts, their air conditioning. There was a thread on the Austin Reddit about somebody who said, my air conditioning bill is so ridiculous right now. I'm going to move Austin and I keep it at 65. Why is that? Like because you keep it at 65. Yeah, straight up. That's crazy. Also, come on. We've all got to do our part with these little things. Anyway, oh, I could just go on and we're probably preaching to the converted somewhat with this, but you never know. And Brian, I just purchased a copy of your book. I've not had a chance to read it yet but I'm very much looking forward to it. Well, my publisher and I both thank you. Alan, can I jump in there? Yeah, absolutely. First of all, I think Judith that there's definitely a real stall and I think one of the reasons is as you pointed out that people will have, they see this as something that will cost them. The solar punk idea of a fine Anthropocene is just really not out there yet. I've actually thought about making my next book and calling it Solar Punk University but the real advantages, I mean, just learning to have a warmer temperature, to not have your thermostat set to 65, but at 72, is a plus. I mean, I'm extremist in some ways. I shifted to a completely vegan diet a few years ago and I'm really happy with it. I think, I mean, I know I'm healthier. My, in fact, my current primary care physician told me to give him advice on dietary stuff which is pretty goofy, right? But I think we are afraid of loss. I mean, if not flying enough, that's gonna cut down travel straight up.  I think, yeah, I think people don't wanna sacrifice and they don't wanna sacrifice for a goal they can't foresee right now. But to go back to your point and to Karen's point, I love this idea of a whole higher education unit focused on climate change. But we have now our classes, we have some majors, some minors, some graduate programs, but I'm waiting for within a university to have a whole college of climate change. I'm waiting for a standalone university of climate change. And in the meantime, we should just think about this as liberal arts.  Alan, I'm sure will be able to have us talk about not just technology, but also about geology. If we're trying to think about political action, polyscience, sociology are there for you. And of course, to understand the basic science, we've got a stack of natural sciences for this. I mean, in many ways, thinking about the climate crisis has to be interdisciplinary, interdisciplinary. So we need to be all over this right now. Liz Yada also says something that's really, really important, the plan will still be here. In my book, I have a, except for one chapter, it's based, I base everything on the IPCC's median scenarios.  But I have a chapter called best case and worst case scenarios. And the worst case scenario is the darkest thing I've ever committed to print. And that includes the possibility of humanity dying out. But of course, we do have the opportunity for the earth to continue to exist for other life forms and for evolution to keep going. Absolutely right. But I will argue that Liz, that it's not just an existential threat for humans. We are already affecting flora and fauna through humid cause climate change. And it's a domino effect. And I think probably the one that's really out there in the public mind, I would hope it is somewhat cause you see on the news is polar bears and their habitat being, habitats being destroyed. But there are so many others from minute creatures in the ocean to plants to, we're destroying. We are destroying other forms of life on the planet already. Like, no, like we're the asteroid, the asteroid that set out the last extinction. And of course, you know, no one really remembers the world of the trilobites. I mean, they had a great thing going on before the planet shifted around. And so there's a lot of history that's been lost down the wash. I kind of, this is great, but I kind of want to get back to again, like we talked a little bit about the potential for narrative to interest people, but can you both, and that's also why I wanted to ask Brian, cause I know Brian has an in-depth knowledge of film as well. Like what is also the things we can learn or the ways we can jettison. And maybe it's not because of film being about climate change. I mean, there's a lot of ones where it's just the setting and it's sort of sets the stage. So it doesn't always have to be the point of the movie to make an impact, right? But what can film do or what can narrative do? What was that? There was an incredibly bad Hugh Jackman movie. I mean, I kept falling, I don't normally fall asleep during movies, but man, I kept falling asleep. But climate change was the background.  It's not the focus on, I don't think. And mine is not meant to be comprehensive. I've selected films to focus on so, but I'm not sure which one that is. It was really dull, but they had some nice visuals of Florida underwater. I, Judith, have you looked into this Apple TV series, extrapolations? I've not seen it yet. I do mention it in the final chapter of my resource, but I've not seen it yet. Well, that encourages me to finish my blog post about it. I thought they did a couple of things that were interesting. One I thought was good and one I thought was pretty cynical in terms of storytelling on, because this is a huge complicated problem. There's actually a philosophical concept called the hyper-object involves in trying to think it through.  What extrapolations did that was good was they made it into a family story. A series of family relations of husbands and wives, parents and children are conflicting along these lines of what to do. Should we do geoengineering, yes or no? Should we migrate away from an endangered place, yes or no? What's the value of human health versus animal health and that kind of thing. But the cynical thing that I thought was absolutely hilarious and was bugging me when I was watching it and Aaron Boddy did a great article critiquing me so that all the characters except for in one episode are all wealthy Americans. And that's really dumb for a global story, right? Why do that? So I read an interview with a showrunner and she said, well, someone asked her about that. She said, well, we're doing a show for Apple TV. We thought their audience is mostly rich Americans so we'd focus on them. Thanks, that's cynical. I can see your point, but I think family stories is one key part. Judith, I have other ideas but I want you to take over, please. That movie that I mentioned Take Shelter is one that is very much centered around a family of three and the effects of the fathers and the husband's paranoia over climate change. But one thing I wanted to mention. Good movie. This is directly answering that, Alan. What I believe is so powerful about narrative film. Narrative film, by the way, is also known as feature film. Again, this is as opposed to documentary film. Narrative film allows a creativity to come into play that envisions solutions that otherwise we might never think of. I believe in the power of artists and their creativity to come up to imagine solutions that we otherwise might not imagine. So that's the optimist in me. But I just, as I was finishing this resource and writing the conclusion, I came across an article that was published in The Atlantic in 2014 and the author argued, it was in relation to the movie Interstellar. He argued that film is never going to get it right and that narrative film is a problem because the solutions to climate change are never going to be that dramatic. That it's based in science, in math, and it doesn't create a wonderful dramatic ending for a narrative film. I'm not so sure about that. I'm not sure I agree. I just, I think that perhaps our filmmakers haven't quite gotten there. And some have suggested, just like with geoengineering that you mentioned, some have suggested some, what could end up being some viable possibilities. But that's what, that's a criticism that is put out there in regard to more of the films that it's just the real solutions are just never going to be that dramatic. What about, did you include the road? Cormac McCarthy? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I have a whole section on, and I hate to give this away with the road if you've not seen it, a whole section on cannibalism and depictions. That really, there's some filmmakers who said, here is, this is the worst of humanity that happens when we are faced with these challenges. And cannibalism is one of the worst taboos and if not all societies. And boy, that movie, who don't, if you're looking for a light film on a Friday night, that's not the one for you, or book based on McCarthy. Yeah, it's a great book. It's not a good film, but it's still, oh boy. Judith, I think that critic speaks for about 90% of Hollywood film and probably 90% of Bollywood film as well. But I think there are openings, there are ways of doing this that we've actually seen, not just from independent films, by the way, Take Shelter is brilliant. I saw that in the theater and it was just brilliant. Lucky you, I only saw it about three years ago. It's so cleverly balanced. I don't wanna spoil it, but I would think about, this is gonna be a weird direction which Alan will appreciate. I would think about the David Fincher movie about the Zodiac killer called Zodiac, which is, it's a very well done, interesting movie and they don't catch the killer. That's not a spoiler. I mean, it's a historical film. It's a docudrama basically and it's true. We don't, the Zodiac was never caught. But the movie just kind of staggers to an end as the investigation more or less disintegrates and different, they follow different paths and none bear out and it's done. But the movie does a fantastic job of reproducing the time period. There's some unbelievable reconstructions of San Francisco downtown, for example. And it gets the passions involved really, really clear. I would, if I could be faithful to the spirit of that article though, I would say computer games are a great way to be thinking about this in games in general because games are system creatures. So they let you simulate a system and they give you player agency to different forms. And also they can be fun, which is a good way to get people engaging with potentially dry stuff. But also they let you have the possibility of different futures open up. For example, there's a tabletop board game called CO2 which lets you simulate the production of CO2 in the world in the 70s and 80s.  There's a satirical game from Moley Industries which lets you play an oil baron and you get punished if you don't do enough climate change. There's a game called, I'm sorry, I'm blanking the name of it which is about rebuilding the world after climate change devastates it. The Economist, the conservative economics magazine published a kind of choose your own adventurous style game where you're in charge of the global response to climate change. And you have to see it through for the next century. I think there's a lot that you can do with that. You know, and I love coming back to the topic of universities and education, Brian. You know, any way that you could harness gamification in pedagogy I think would be incredible in this capacity and simulations and virtual reality so that not only are you studying it but you're in a way embodying helping to come up with solutions and embodying living the effects of it without the danger, the physical danger like I felt whenever I was without heat and you know, five temperatures for five days. Oh, creativity, Karen, yeah. Yep, that's. So it sounds like, and I know this is part of Brian's teaching is I mean, we're discussing like understanding and using produced narrative but there's also the flip side. We're talking about students and learners creating and exploring these same digital creative tools to play out future scenarios. Any thoughts on how people interested in taking on that strategy can go about it? Well, of creating scenarios. Yeah, or just like teaching no matter using these games that you're talking about. Well, there, I mean, one of the quick ways is to grab a game and play it. And I'm not trying to be flip. It's just that it's a bit like the matrix, right? You have to actually do it rather than be shown it. And this gives you the, this gives you the chance to try to explore the different form of thinking that's involved. So you can really try to, you know, see how it changes your understanding. I'd also recommend games that are very creative. There's a wonderful game. I can put this in the chat called The Quiet Year. And we put this in, which is a, this is going to sound weird. It's a collaborative drawing game where every person takes place, every person is a person in a community after a great disaster has happened and they have one year to rebuild the community. And the play is mostly done by actually, by drawing on a shared huge sheet of paper, what you're doing, you know, you're working on building a bridge, you're trying to grow crops, you're trying to, you know, raid a nearby community for food or whatever you do. And it's all collective. There's a whole structure to how people get to argue with each other. My students loved this. They wouldn't stop playing it. They found it very emotionally powerful and moving. It's also modifiable. You can take and add parts to it as you go. I'm waiting to see more role-playing games in this field, which is a very different way of thinking about systems. But also I think just the sheer amount of play and creativity is vital, especially when you're tackling such an incredibly daunting subject. Alan, can I, that's such great points, Brian, and daunting, isn't that the word? To just point out, Una put, and we're so glad you're here, Una, as always, a great comment about here. Many non-industrialized countries are experiencing climate trauma, triggered by actions of the industrialized countries. The global South, those in poverty, rationally marginalized individuals are disproportionately affected by climate change. Climate change that, as Una alludes to, has been caused disproportionately by industrialized nations. It's a reason that I've embraced open education and that I have published this with an open license in press books because I very much believe in the power of open to be able to reach global audiences and to put out information that's accessible to all. Because again, we're back to that notion that we are all affected, but Una made such a great point that there are many who are disproportionately affected by this and open education for me is one way that I can try to do something about that. I agree, and that's a wonderful thing, especially since we have such an uneven, shall we say, distribution of knowledge. We have so much of the global South, which is locked out of the for-pay academic scholarship world. And Una points out that Chow up earlier, was talking about this, both in terms of global thinking, but also in terms of thinking about justice. Thank you, thank you. And Una, thanks for mentioning Chow, thank you. So I talked to some academics who say, well, this isn't going to hit me because we are protected for certain reasons. So they'll say, okay, Florida will go under water and this somehow makes everybody happy, but I live in Colorado or I live in central Pennsylvania, I'll be safe from that and it's not going to be too hot, not going to be too disastrous here, I'll be fine. Or if it's a wealthy institution, of course, those are overrepresented in these conversations. They'll say, well, we have money, we can pay for things to protect us and we have insurance and that kind of thing. So one of the points I like to bring up, and this is Chow, my first thought when you're talking about global was that among other impacts, we are going to have a refugee crisis, the likes of which humanity has never experienced before. As we have parts of the world that become unlivable due to excessively high wet bulb temperatures, also parts that are inundated by terrible, terrible storms. So you look, for example, in Sub-Saharan Africa, you take a look at Central America, you look at the Indian Ocean coastline, especially Bangladesh and India, you look at parts of Southeast Asia and think all of the scholars in this field are talking about millions or tens of millions of people on the move, which should reconfigure our politics right now since a few thousand immigrants from Central America and a few tens of thousands from North Africa and the Middle East through the US and Europe for a loop, right? So here's a question. If you're a university in, say, Northern, excuse me, Central Norway or in Switzerland or in Seattle and you think you're gonna be fine, okay, great. Is it your responsibility to house, physically house some of these immigrants or is it your responsibility to educate them, which might be online education because immigrants need all kinds of education in order to be able to survive and succeed. And by the way, I mean, I'm talking about Central America, I'm talking about Sub-Saharan Africa. For people in the United States here, wait for the climate immigrants to come out of the American Southeast and out of the Southwest. Yeah, sorry, Brian, sorry to interrupt, but we already have climate refugees in the US, which people often don't realize, not to make it again about the global North, but sometimes it does help to make people understand in the United States that we already have climate refugees. I highlighted one of my chapters, the movie Beasts of the Southern Wild, which is just an incredible film that is set on a coastal island in Louisiana. And it's based on an actual island where over the past decade, the residents have been having to leave and be relocated because of the rising, rising waters there caused directly by human cause climate change. It's already happening in the US. And it's so easy for us to, I think, say, well, in India, yes, of course, the coast, and we're gonna try to do some, but it's already happening here. That doesn't lessen the seriousness of what is happening across the globe, particularly in the global South and how disenfranchised those populations are. I believe that the Louisiana government, as well as some federal funds are being utilized to assist those in Louisiana and want to minimize what they're going through, that they are able to get some assistance, I believe. Well, thank you. That's a great one to find, thank you so much. That reminds me when many years ago, we had the book reading club and you introduced me to the water knife. That's a novel by an author whose last name I had to teach myself, I would pronounce, Paolo Bacigalupi. Bacigalupi, I was gonna try it, I was close. He was a marvelous author and yeah, I read a couple of his novels, but do we think also about just the crisis of lack of drinking water? Like water? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you'll appreciate this, Ellen. I teach a class at Georgetown on the future of higher education. And so I built a matrix game for them, which a matrix game is a kind of like blend of tabletop and role-playing game. It's an interesting design, I'm happy to talk about it, but they got to play a university community. So one of them was university president, one represented all the humanities faculty, one represented all the students, one was college sports and so on. And every year they had to make decisions and do different things. And I had a stack of random events cards and one of them was global warming makes your water quality degraded and how they had to respond. And it was fascinating because they all scrambled. The students offered to build DIY water analysis and filtration kits. You have people saying, well, maybe we should make a big deal of this because of the suppressed enrollment. It got very, very interesting to see how it unfolded really quickly. But water, yeah, absolutely. Well, when do you decide if you're in a place where the water quality is terrible or there's simply not enough of it? Or conversely, there's far too much of it. When do you decide to move? I mean, if you're in Miami right now, you'd be foolish not to plan to relocate your institution either to another physical location like the Adirondacks perhaps, or move it entirely online. I'm saying that, just run your eyes along the coastlines of the world. Some of those places are going to be facing the same. If they stay in place, are they ready to spend a lot of money to import a lot of fresh water? I mean, this is a, and even if you do that, the minute saltwater infiltrates your groundwater, all of your trees, all those plants are going to die, right? And you're going to be replaced if you're lucky by new forms of life, right?  I mean, the more you look at this problem, the more levels there are to it. You know, Brian, speaking of locations like that, I read a recent article that argued that the city in the United States that is least likely to be affected by climate change or will be affected later than other locations is Duluth, Minnesota. There are apparently literally folks who are moving to Duluth because of that and it's having a renaissance. Now that I could not take the winter up there as climate change affects Austin and in spite of snowpocalypse I mentioned, of course we like everybody else have increasing higher temperatures more often and sooner. Maybe I will welcome Duluth, Minnesota at some point, but... Well, sure. And it'll be the winter will be less ferocious, right? I mean, I lived in Vermont for almost 20 years and people were growing wine in my community. You know, it was ice wine, a particular kind of grape, you know, designed for the Alps but they were growing it, right? No, I mean, Duluth, the whole Midwest, both the Canadian part and the American part have this wonderful advantage of a gigantic freshwater aquifer and they have soil, they have agriculture and they are not too hot. So yeah, this can definitely be a destination. Oh, I'm so Beatrice, I'm so glad to see you there Beatrice. You know, when a lot of people don't realize that if you look at the science and this is really rather horrifically but beautifully depicted in the book, Ministry of the Future, it only takes like four degrees Fahrenheit for the earth's average temperature to raise like four degrees and that will make it our planet uninhabitable. It's like that. So that, you know, like to the water that you were talking about, Brian, I mean, don't quote me on that science but it's something akin to that. But Brian, you know, you're talking about the water. It's, you know, these little changes that at what point do you say, oh my gosh, this is, I gotta get out of here because humans, you know, won't be that long before I simply can't exist here. It is, I do recommend the Book Ministry of the Future. It's, it particularly focuses on India and how India fills the effects really before many parts of the planet does and to just some horrible, horrible effects. It's a great read. It's, I mean, Robinson's a great novelist and this is a book trying to figure out how we could fight climate change. So it's ultimately very optimistic. And so it takes, it's a big book and it takes you in a vision through this all, you know, using different kinds of geoengineering, rearranging the financial structure, different political moves, some of which are shady, some of which are not, cultural changes. I mean, it's a rich book. It's possible to stop reading. Oh, I mean, that authors got parent knowledge of so many aspects of science, of culture, of society, of humanity, of the psyche, human motivations. It's, it is mind-boggling how she managed to write that. And we started with Waterworld and we ended up with Flooding Florida and then all over the place. I guess maybe for some, oh, I would wanna talk for hours but you people have things to do. But like, okay, like we know we have to do something. Like, and what are the things that we can and should be doing? Like SFNB has the answers, but like what are the, you know, the, I don't even wanna say a top list but where should people start making steps if they haven't already? I'm trying to tell my publisher this should be my next book, right? Is a how-to guide. And there are actually a few how-to guides. I recommend the book called Drawdown which is just a wonderful, beautiful book too, physically beautiful. Basically every two pages is something that we can do. And then at the end of the book, it ranks all of those things we can do by their impact. It's incredibly readable and I recommend it.  I'm happy with it. I mean, I don't have a lot to say on the subject, Brian. It's cliche. I believe education is the key. And globally, we have to ensure that we are giving our young people and beyond opportunities to explore their creativity to come up with solutions. Because I do think creativity is a huge part of where we're going to be able to find solutions, envision solutions that we have not come up with before, that coupled with science. We have to make sure that everyone has the opportunity for education in this manner. And it has to be across all levels of education from K through 12 to post-secondary to lifelong learning. You never know who is out there that has the key that we need for the solution to this crisis, this existential crisis. It's not easy, but Brian, go ahead. Oh, shoot, I agree. And that's one of the reasons why people under 30 are passionate about this is because they have been educated. They know this is a real deal and they want to take steps. So when I talk to educators, one of the things I point out to is, look, if you don't care about this, if you don't think this is a big deal, fine, but your students do. And to some extent, individual academic institutions exist to serve those students. So give them what they need, give them what they want. So we need more classes. But before I get to that point, I think it's important for every educator to work together at their institutions and in their professions to start planning and thinking hard now about what they can do and then take steps. And the steps are manifold. I mean, you think about, for example, a physical campus, right?  Do you, for example, ban that from, or find it or disincentivize it? Do you switch your entire campus fleet to electric? Think about as well where you get your electrical power from. Most campuses outsource it to someplace else. I think UT Austin is one of the few that actually has its own power plant because Texas. But otherwise, I mean, think about where that comes from. Most people don't know. It is it come from people burning coal or fossil fuels? Then switch it. Berea College in Kentucky bought shares in a few hydro power stations so they could then switch their powers to that. Perfect, right? Or do you start generating your own power on campus? It depends on where you are. If you have enough wind for wind power, if you have enough sun and so on and so on. But then think about as well your buildings. And buildings generate CO2 in their lifespan. They do it by the construction process, especially the ones that rely heavily on concrete and cement, but also in their operations. Because as we were talking, Judith has mentioned before, the guy who is trying to keep his Austin home with polar levels of cold. Because of air conditioning, because of heating, because of electricity, because of water, all this stuff. So we know how to design buildings that are carbon neutral or even carbon negative, right?  So how do we change our buildings? Well, we should start doing that now. But there are a zillion ways the physical campus. In our teaching, do we teach more? Yes, how do we support that? How do we support students who are climate refugees or have climate trauma? That's an issue. In our research, how do we do interdisciplinary, multidisciplinary teaching? But beyond that, you think of the biggest possible picture. Humanity is struggling with something that's kind of like the Industrial Revolution happening in fast forward or even reversed on a top speed, right? Or it's something as big as say the struggle against fascism in the 1930s and the 40s. So we have to think, what is our commitment to that? What is our ethical responsibility? Do we actually think we can't contribute or we should not, because this is somebody else's problem. But also as we rethink all of this, as we rethink everything, our electric, our power systems, as we think our politics, as we rethink how we use food, as we rethink our physical presence on the earth, the whole species is rethinking that right now, which is why you can see ideas rippling across the world, things like degrowth economics, donor economics, zero growth economics. So what's the role of educators in thinking about this, to offer new ideas? Is the solar punk idea a good trope to follow, right? What kind of building strategies? What does this do to gender? What does it do to religion? When, for example, your Pope says climate change is a major concern. Or if say in India, the Ganges River starts to dry up, which it's doing, what happens to your belief? All these ideas educators can contribute by thinking through this, sharing this through research and through teaching. But I think this is something which is the biggest crisis facing us now. How can we not ask? How can we not take steps? In the chat, Charles Tran said, the young generation of students are more aware of their parents. Absolutely. And I think that parents can be aware. The light bulb just hasn't gone on, right? There's a poster I see a lot in climate protests which says, it's always a young person holding this. It says, you will die of old age.  And I love that. It's powerful and it makes the hairs, the back of my neck go right up. And you think, all right, so there's that 25-year-old thinking that, right? Greta Thunberg, she's what, 21? If you look at the just top oil people in Europe, they're people who are college students, right? I mean, they've got this. Do we want to just let them go and do their thing and ignore them? Or do we want to work with them? And support them and provide them with resources? Exactly. Yeah. Wow, well said, Brian. All right. This was so good. I really want to thank you both for coming on here and engaging in this unstructured format. I think we need Judas T-shirt design for planets over profit. And out of that, we need to start acting that way and thinking about it all the time. And I just want to thank you both so much. And also, thank everybody out there in YouTube Land who've been listening in and chiming in the conversations. As soon as we stop broadcasting, the archive is instantly there. And so we're looking forward to having more of these in the future and looking for topics and conversations. So again, Brian and Judith, thank you very much. You're both generous and wonderful people and educators. And I'm just so thankful for you all. And I am going to play a little music to fade us out and we'll stop the broadcast and just wish everybody wherever your climate is, hope it's good, hope it's comfortable. And don't turn your AC down to 65. It's really not necessary. Thank you, Alan, for being a great host. Thank you. Thank you, Brian. Thanks, Bobby. Thank you, Judith. On called Mystery Mammals. Mystery Music Archive and we'll just go out to a little bit of update music. And thank you, Chow and Karen and Paul and Beatrice and everybody else who's been part of it. So take care, everybody. Have a good day and OEG Live will be back sometime in the future. Definitely end of the month and we'll have more after that. Bye now. See you soon. Bye bye.


Hi folks, it's Dr. Don. I'm going to start with a quick apology. I tried to help some one term before last showing her how to use named cells to help her understand her model and I forgot that I left that in the worksheet that you now have. So when you built your model and you followed the instructions from the last video, you've pasted it into the goal-seek cell. If you try to do the goal-seek problem where you're trying to get this different cell to 100,000 by changing these cells up here, nothing happens. And if you click there, I'm going to click in that cell. I'm going to put in 10, hit enter. The difference delta did not change. The reason for that is that I use those named cells. I click in this total manufacturing cost and you look at the formula that's in that cell. It's fixed cost plus unit variable cost time-demand volume. Now my fixed cost is up here in B6, but you don't see B6 in this formula. You see fixed cost. Unit variable cost is B7, but you don't see B7 times B14th demand. You see these names. Now where are those names coming from? I'm going to go back here to the first tab where you built your model and here if I change this to zero for an update, you can see that my difference delta and everything downstream updates properly. I'm going to click in that cell for fixed cost and you can see instead of B6 it says fixed cost. That's the names. I named these cells. They can be very helpful when you're trying to analyze your model, but it's not helpful when you're trying to copy a model from one worksheet to another because the model is referring to that name cell, which is B6 on this tab, not B6 on this tab. You've got to be aware that one way you should do this thing, probably the cleanest way, is to get rid of all these name cells and you should go up here to formulas, look for name manager. There you can see the five names. I'm going to hold my shift key down and select all five of those, then just click delete. It says, are you sure? Yeah, I want to get rid of them. I've gotten rid of those and now, of course, it shows me all of the cells that are tied back to those names. It's looking for those names. I'm going to go ahead and put 50,000 in there again so we have a value. The easiest way is just to get the practice rebuild your formula equal fixed cost plus unit variable cost times demand hit enter. Now I've got the total manufacturing cost equal the outsourcing unit cost times demand hit enter. Now everything works here properly and if I go back and I can copy this model, control C, go back here to goal seek and just paste over what I've got there. Now it works. If I change this to 10 again, you can see the the models work again. I apologize. The name ranges are really helpful when you get into more complex decision models, particularly when you're doing Solver and Monte Carlo, using name ranges on a worksheet and not copying that model to another worksheet works really well. But since the equations are remembering this specific cell that has the name, you don't want to use it just willy-nilly like I mistakenly got you to do. So I hope this helps.


Alex, I just strongly disagree until we get some clarity. Hold on. Hold on. I get your point there, but that's not real either. I mean, everything you're saying is true. So you don't put together the other pieces that you're talking about with 9-11.  We've been at this for 17 years. And who thinks we're going to get to the bottom of 9-11, or someone's going to come out and tell the truth. That guy that I don't, I haven't researched it enough to know if the guy is for real, but that YouTube that was making the rounds in the last couple of months of a inside operative CIA guy who says, yeah, here's how we brought down building seven. It was a controlled domination. And it's a deathbed confession, which we know in the court of law carries a lot more weight than a regular confession. So I don't know if that's been debunked, folks. If it has, I apologize, but I've been meaning to research that, but I haven't. But like you pointed out, the Pentagon thing, anyone who just goes and looks at the Pentagon, it's like game over. But come on, we're never going to get to the bottom of that. So why not? No, I don't. Why not? Well, I'm not talking about, I'm talking about from a pragmatic, practical standpoint. I'm saying we have to try and navigate all this stuff the best that we can. And I'm just, I'm just uncomfortable with the assume that they're all dirty thing. Because I think it can, that can also lead us down a path where we're just create an echo chamber of confirming our own beliefs. So do you have something out until we find out what's inside the government? This is all, you know, angels dancing on the head of a pen. Who knows? I just, I don't have a clue. I don't know if Strassman is dirty. How would I possibly know that? I don't know him. I've never studied his work. It could well be that he's not. But the point is, we cannot go forward at this particular time with the developments of these. But we're all going forward all the time, Joe. We're all going forward all the time. We're all trying to figure out- Well, let's go forward, Alex. Let's go forward just in clarity of what exactly the government's doing. Because here's my point. Look, this was all used against us once, right? It was all used against us. The sex, drugs, and rock and roll culture was artificial. It was used against us. It really debased and damaged our culture. And so now, as we sit here, we have this new era, new drugs, new research, new government involvement. We just aren't in a position until we know what is controlling the government to trust these things. They hurt us once. This time, let's put a little scrutiny and sunlight on these things. And it's like with Strassman, are any of the people that are advocating the psychonauts that are wanting this, let's go into this area and try to do more research? Here's what I would say to them, Alex. If you are really ethical, then what you should do is not put the cart before the horse. The first step should be, we've got to really understand what the tradition of this psychedelic movement is. That's the first thing we've got to do. We need informed consent. So before you start promoting all of the advantages, right, and spiritual development that these drugs can bring, you've got to give the public the truth about the history of all of them and the truth about what the government did and what it was trying to do and what sort of influence it was trying to have. If we get there, we will have informed consent. But if we don't get there, if we're sitting there saying, let's try it again, I'm sorry, to me, it's completely unethical. Until we get to the bottom of what happened and who did it and how it was designed and what the purpose of all this stuff was, we shouldn't be trying to move forward with psychedelic drugs and particularly drugs like the business with Strassman where he's getting government funding. Matt, I would just say that on its surface is just a really bad idea. So let's stop, pause, and spend a little bit of time getting an understanding of what happened to us and then we'll know how we can move forward.


why is everyone down here monkey monkey today we're gonna try cup noodles stir fry the Korean barbecue flavor stir-fry style Asian noodles and sauce so this is what we'll be trying okay so let's go ahead and get into this we'll check the nutrition facts out and we'll go from there stick around okay guys so what we're gonna do if you watch my last video she had mentioned something about soup so here we are we'll see you in the next one I came in and we're doing soup she said you need change your shirt you're soaking wet I said no I told him go right in to make soup and here we are I stay tuned for a soup video okay so like I said this is stir-fry it does have a fill line on it right there there's the instructions I'll read to you here momentarily and if you would like to pause and read the nutrition facts I know a lot you guys are interested in that alright so should be pretty much the same as any other noodle remove lid add room temperature water it says 6.4 fluid ounces to inside fill line so I don't know what says ounces but I guess that that way you can kind of know how many ounces but if it's got a fill line I'm just gonna fill it up to the fill line right mama mm-hmm then place a microwave center microwave uncovered four minutes on high that's a thousand watts so if you have I think ours in 900 I don't feel like you have a 700 water something what you know adjust for that it may take five minutes but ours usually is pretty close the 900 was to a thousand watts 1100 watts you may not have to go as as much you know you may only have to go three and a half minutes so but four minutes isn't normal and then you're gonna let it stand for one minute and then stir and enjoy cooking times vary with microwave wattage like we just said so we're gonna do is did it say uncovered place them microwave center microwave uncovered so let's go ahead and pull this off here we've got some water right there like I said these cups they are recycled I do believe and they're strong they are strong whoa all right I like the other one too and nice aroma very nice the other one was very good okay the line is I can't ever film and get light that I need see the line it's right there there you go right there anyway we're gonna fill up that line we have some water right here it's cold it's room temperature yeah you know what room temperature means the temperature of the room let that soak in a little bit oh I forgot to look does it have a have a gauge on the spiciness some of these have gauges on them this one does not so it just says Korean barbecue flavor all right so this should be pretty good so we're gonna go ahead and put this in a microwave for four minutes let's set for a minute and we'll be back with you monkeys got her fork there I got us two of these and she said where's my fork and it was this is right here and she had that lip out what that do what you did that's like what and then I was like oh I had to get her she loves these forks you guys so you know Marlin Brian sent to us they said I was supposed to get something else but she's I don't know where those things come from but I said it's okay because she loves them all right let's eat this up okay guys we cook and microwave for four minutes we let it set for exactly one minute because I set a timer because like I said before I always like to do what the instructions say to do first that way if something happens my haters ain't they're not gonna be all like well you didn't do it exactly the way it says whatever so I'm doing it exactly the way it says now we're gonna stir it up oh that's hot yeah stuff in there was that cabbage Kirby I don't know got a little stuff in it stuff in it maybe I don't know there's another piece they're pretty good size too they're not little all right so salary I don't know taste taste of that take a piece of that off of it looks like happening yeah no this white one get this one she don't know okay it's good whatever it is all right get you up here we'll give this a try cabbage yeah okay go ahead and get yours month I'll go and take a nap where you're getting that old tiny fork really are you recording yeah let's go you recording yeah that's what that red REC up there means it's getting a shot cuz she's never in the shot I'm trying here okay I laugh too much I'll fall off spork spork ready yep thank you dog thank you don't that's very nice not spicy at all no but it's very flavorful yeah so even the people that can't handle spice or you know a lot of people it's a sweetness you know physical issues or not that I'm making fun of they can't handle it that's not what I mean guys I mean you know the people that can't eat spicy stuff that's not spicy at all I recommend it you could eat it no problem this is yeah very there's a lot of flavor in here sure is who hot it does have a chili flavor to I know people go well no kidding it says chili well barbecue no kidding it says barbecue well you know sometimes things don't taste like the set like sometimes barbecue chips taste nothing like a barbecue you know that's good this tastes like it almost tastes like you cooked it on the grill I like it you know I mean it does have that barbecue flavor like a barbecue sauce flavor that you know when you put something on a grill it's got a hint of that to it this is very good very nice I buy this one again oh yeah yeah I could stock up on this one and the other one the first one too because it was good first one so far is my favorite out of these ones yeah yeah okay so you're rating mm-hmm I don't know what means people eat something mm-hmm what's it like mm-hmm okay what's your rating um I give it a two a two well okay two thumbs up and out of five I would probably give it a four because I like the other one better but I like this one too I think the other one I like better than this one but I'm still won't give it two thumbs up and this gets four and a half star for me mm-hmm it's hard to get a high rating out of me because I'm you know well they're up there both of them I would pick especially if you not into really space when you gave the other one a four didn't you or did you give it for now I think you gave the other one a four I think so too but they're both up there I you know if you had you could eat both of them if you're not into real spacey stuff and it and still enjoy these four and a half stars for me and two thumbs up very good awesome okay guys there you go stay tuned for more of these videos and very good you didn't do any filming yesterday did you really it was a flop doesn't matter I still uploaded it because you know well you uploaded because you did you did some filming on the boats and stuff like that but I didn't even do that I started feeling nauseous because it was so friggin hot and so yeah and I'm not doing this every day and we didn't get no fish that's alright because like I said yeah any bad day of fishing is better than any good day at work well yeah I mean at least we were outside enjoying that's fine and stuff like that you know that's why it's called fishing and not catching you know it's like those those fishing shows that's all they do is show them catching fish if they don't catch any fish they don't upload me but but well look at the sun out on them you know like they're they're fishing next thing you know oh number two already well the sun's clear here it's been two hours I can tell you that you know the shadows are different places I'm wondering too if they're really coming out of the ocean because I mean like I said like I said it's because you know like they're they'll be like oh yeah son's getting ready good now we had a great day we've got five fish yeah but you've been out for ten hours they don't tell you that yeah I'll tell you you know when we you know when I catch a lot of fish I'll tell you how long it's been you know like they'll be like look at that second one already just cast it back out no you didn't because you know that's funny because the shadow was right here a minute ago now you just cast it out in the shadows clear over here I'm not an idiot why why fake the stuff I mean show the real that's why we're real you know that's why I uploaded it because you know that's part of it you're not gonna catch fish every time you know that's why in the tournament it's called a tournament right you know yeah because some guys might catch one one basketball another guy caught four well they also use to see what I'm saying okay well alright that's another story but you see what I'm saying it's it just all part of it yeah you know or as she calls it tournament all right guys so anyway thanks for watching I appreciate it we'll see you next one month bye y'all have a good day that's monkey 1000 check her channel out she never plugs herself you should I do every time I do for you and you need to upload more I do I really wish I get more subs so I could monetize we ain't gonna get subs if you ain't if you don't have any videos up you actually I was hoping to have one yesterday you actually lose so even though it's a flop put it out there my beginning we're all fishing have a good day just threw throughout the throughout the day that while we're fishing turn your camera on well still haven't caught anything talk to them for a minute and then you can upload and then at the end of the day or when we get ready to say well you know as you can see we caught nothing right but that's part of it that way you're real you're not gonna be one of them ones that only upload if you catch 10 or 12 fish oh heck no I've never caught you see what I mean well it was a flop well some people want to see that like you know I watch it was will it run videos sometimes I like to see them hit that button and nothing happened but you know here's a thing on that real quick and I'll mention again another video that I'm gonna be doing but those guys think about it alright this car has been sent for 57 years in this field so what do they do new new spark plug wires new spark plugs new cap new points new rotor button change you oil you know all this to rebuild the carburetor and then go all right we're gonna try it now will it run well it should because you pretty much rebuilt the damn engine I hate that and then you'll see us hey alright this guy's you know got an old Buick engine he's gonna start it for the first time and you click on it first time since he rebuilt it right it's gonna run well if it don't you screwed up you pretty much everything's new on it it's not locked up something should happen right that's why you know like most of the time like like that old my John Deere you know we blew the stuff out of it hosted off and cranked it crank it you know I mean I cleaned the points but I didn't yeah I mean I could just start putting brand new brand new carburetor which eventually I did but you go start putting all that new stuff on it it should run of course if it don't then there's something I'm not impressed I like the guys that go out in the woods I know you're supposed to change you all first and all I'm not putting $300 in a car that I don't know if it's gonna run or if it does run it's gonna start up knock and smoke and you know got a burnt piston night now you got $300 in a piece of crap right you know start it up if there's some wall in there it's fine to start it up start it up let it run a minute boom that's all you need now now you can go putting your new points and plugs and all that stuff in but when you do that it's been sitting here it pulled out on its own power after 40 years it should you put all new stuff on it it should you know yeah I mean come on that's why I like dragging out that born my barn finds on dear right out of that shed brought it over here and you're full of stuff blew it out and had it running that night fired it up you know then I proceeded I bought a carburetor and you know I'll get a new plug and I'll get new points and stuff like that but it ran yeah that's what I like to see I still have it they're all I still haven't changed all of it no it still got to I mean it's oil come on yeah it sat there 20 years that he knew well so all right guys anyway we'll see you in the next one bye bye and take care Monk again that's telling her it takes 20 minutes to say goodbye y'all take care


Thank you for joining us tonight for the Summer Creek and Southside Flow Transfer Station Virtual Community Design Meeting. If you have questions now or during the presentation, you can put them in a chat at the bottom right-hand side of the screen. We will take those questions first and then we'll take in the call of users. And if you want to go to the chat right now, the link to the project page is there and you can copy that. And I'm going to pass this to your project manager, Susie Abbey. Welcome everybody. We're going to start with some introductions and then do a project overview.  So your project team includes myself. I'm the project manager. My name is Susie Abbey and my phone number is<PHONE_NUMBER>. And my email address is susanne.abbey at Fort Worth, Texas dot GOV. And our engineering design consultant is Frisa Nichols and Olivia Kurz is also on the call today. So what are we doing this project? This project is one of two in this area that will supply higher pressure water to new development in the southern part of the city. This will increase the level of service to customers. Part one of the project is the Southside 4 booster pump station and hydropneumatic tank, which is under construction at 5800 Stewart-Feltz Road. And this is the link to the project page for the booster pump station. What we're talking about today is for a transfer station. It is part 2. And it will support the operation of the new pump station and will transit from the area to the new pressure plane created by part 1. This summer Creek drive and Southside 4 flow transfer station project includes new water lines valve improvements and a new flow transfer station. So the project area is bound by Cookstown lane to the north summer Creek drive to the east forgot a lane to the south and Kavanaugh drive and Chisholm Trail Park way to the west. Summer Creek Middle School is 3 blocks to the north of Cookstown. The project is in Council District 6 and will impact the Panther Heights Neighborhood Association. So the design phase calls for a pressure plane valve near Cookstown Lane as well as 5 proposed water lines and connections within the project's boundaries. More specifically, this is the location of the pressure valve at Cookstown Lane. We have a proposed 8 inch water line along Rancho Verde Parkway from Jamison Lane to 150 foot east. We have another 8 inch diameter water line at Kavanaugh Drive from the north end of the street to 500 feet north through the Encore right of way. There is a proposed 12 inch water line at Summer Creek Drive right away from Posada Lane to 350 feet north to the Encore right away. And then another 12 inch water line. At Summer Creek Drive right away from Fogato Lane to 650 feet north to Posada Lane. Finally, there's an 8 inch water line on Fogato Lane from east of the dead end to 150 foot east. So what is a pressure plane? A pressure plane is an area of the city that operates within a certain elevation range to maintain a constant water pressure. This project is in the south side 3 pressure plane and the south side 4 pressure plane. The project will transition parts of the Panther Heights Neighborhood Association area and McPherson Village development from the south side 3 pressure plane to the south side 4 pressure plane. Areas transition to the new pressure plane will see an increase in water pressure. The water system pressures are expected to increase 10 to 15 PSI. In the existing development areas within the south side 4 pressure plane. All of the south side 4 pressure plane will see pressures ranging from 40 to 80 PSI, which is typical service in the city of Fort Worth. The flow transfer station will be located in the Summer Creek right of way in a 31 by 35 foot area east of Fogato Lane. The flow transfer station maintains water quality in the area by transferring a continuous flow from the south side 4 plane to the south side 3 plane. And the flow transfer will also keep the water moving and fresh and will stabilize water pressure in the area. The part 1 booster pump station is just south of the some country elevated elevated storage tank near the intersection of Stuart Phelps Road and Stuart Phelps Road. Construction of part 1 is expected to wrap up by late fall of 2022. This particular project is still in the design phase and we expect to finalize the design advertised for bids and select a contractor by fall 2023. We will host a community construction meeting after we have a contractor on board. To get more information, you can go to www.fortworthtexas.gov and type in the project number. 103 116-2 in the search bar on the homepage and then click on summer Creek drive and south side for flow transfer station. To get project page updates, you can scroll down to the bottom of the summer Creek paid. And click on subscribe to this page. The link to this meeting video, the project map and the project summary and frequently asked questions will be linked to this project page. Once again, here is my contact information. My name is Susie. My number is<PHONE_NUMBER>. My email is Suzanne at Fort Worth, Texas dot gov. If you need to report an emergency or non emergency, you can call<PHONE_NUMBER> and select option 1 for water main break sewer backups 24 hours a day. Or from 7am to 7pm. You can talk to somebody in the call center. You can also download the my Fort Worth app from the app store or Google play. You can report sewer overflows leaks and water main breaks. Missing or broken meter lids, water theft, water violations, no water service, water pressure issues and other sewer concerns. There are other ways you can make a report. You can text. Hello to 817-835 my FW and type in one word like streetlight out. And the request will go directly to the specific department or to the specific team or department for quick response. Or you can go online to this link. Scroll down to the report online easily tab. Scroll through the topics and select the one that fits your situation. For example, water pressure issue. You can click on that and in the street address, then follow the prompts. Thank you. Okay, David or Linda. Yes, ma'am Sally. Thank you so much for resetting this for us so we can ask questions. Are you welcome. I think David has a few questions. He's a lot more well versed in this area than I am. I think he's muted. David, I hit. I am muted you. Oh, okay. Thank you. Okay. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. Well, and I see we have a couple other people on the line to that. I don't know if they belong to Panther Heights or over in that other subdivision. But thank you all for taking the time to set up this meeting and go over this project with us. Thank you, Olivia for attending. I just want to be sure I only have a few questions. I want to be sure I understand the project. It looks like it's broken down to two phases. The first one being the hydropneumatic tank and the booster pump station. And then do I understand this correctly that all the piping that you're showing that the eight inch connections and a couple of 12 inch lines and a flow transfer station. And that's all going to be part two that is still in design. And the plan is to get a advertised for bids roughly fall 2023. Is that right? Yeah, that's right. Okay. So Panther Heights, there was a map Susie that you had pulled up that was help me out with the colors here was a purple and green. Yeah, so that pan so it looks like Panther Heights is essentially being divided between these two pressure planes. And is all of Panther Heights right now on 3 and then with this project. What's over in the purple is essentially 4. That's right. So this the part 1 of the project creates the south side for pressure plane that doesn't really exist right now. And so this part to extend it extends it to all the necessary areas. Okay. Is that portion down there at the bottom where that flow transfer station. And I don't know help me out with that. I'm thinking that flow transfer station is sort of like a, maybe a pressure reducing valve. And I'm saying that because the information is that, you know, it's going to be a higher pressure for the new pressure plane that's developed versus pressure plane 3 that already exists. Yeah, that's that's the type of valve that will be in there to allow that transfer flow. Okay. So, there's a there's a eight inch line that looks like for connectivity and then that flow transfer station and then a 12 inch. So I'm guessing the 12 inches probably closer in the line to the booster pump station and then coming out of that flow station that eight inch water line. Is that still in pressure playing for or would that be three right there. I'm focused out of lane. Olivia, I might have you answer that I want to say is the 12 inch line. What. Yeah, so I can answer that. So what we're doing is we're essentially there are some gaps in the system because it's all certified in the South side three system currently. What we're doing is basically filling in the gaps where there are no water lines and we're looping in those water lines so that all of South side four is looped together. So forgot a lane. There is an eight inch line that ties into an existing 12 inch along forgot a lane, and those right now are both outside three. So what we're doing is we're taking that existing 12 inch and we're keeping it. I'm sorry we're moving that existing 12 inch to South side for and we're adding a new South side three 12 inch line that will take any flow delivered out of that South side line is a South side for eight inch water line that feeds the pressure sustaining building the flow transfer station, and then any flow is delivered out of there into the new 12 inch line on the South side three system. I see. Okay, so I was looking at it I think I had the flow reverse but that makes sense. Phase two, I heard you say it's still in design. So, is it premature to talk about any kind of potential street closures with that come up later. The one area that I think is really congested is, there's a cul-de-sac at the inch of Rancho Verde Parkway, where it actually joins in with Summer Creek. They opened that up I guess a couple years ago and that has just gotten crazy the amount of traffic that goes through there. So, if you're not aware of that, and I don't know what it would require for construction activity to pipe in and join that new eight inch water line with whatever existing line is there. I don't know if it's in the street or right away or whatever but that's a busy area right there. And by allowed to share my screen, I do have an exhibit that shows where lanes we don't have any road closures. I cannot share content. Unless you make me a presenter. Okay. Thank you. All right, let me know when you can see my screen. And I apologize if this comes through a little small. Just first off note that north is to the right. So it is sideways based on how we normally view maps. David, I believe, can you see my cursor? Yes. Okay, so this is the cul-de-sac you're referring to and then this is the roadway that was opened up recently between Summer Creek, Drive and Rancho Verde Parkway. The areas we did try to place the water lines outside of pavement as much as possible, but just because the water lines themselves are outside of pavement doesn't mean the contractor won't need to close some lanes down to fit their equipment in there and actually make these connections and build these lines. So while we don't anticipate a full road closure in any location, we do anticipate a couple of areas where they would temporarily close a lane. So this entrance into McPherson Village is one of those locations. We don't anticipate impacts in the intersection based on where the record showed the water lines to be. That's of course not the end all be all because we never know where water lines actually are until we dig them up, but the best we can, we don't expect any impacts in this intersection. So this highlighted blue areas where we anticipate a temporary lane closure, it'll be reduced to a one way traffic on the north side, entering the subdivision, but there are two exits to the north of the subdivision that can be used as alternate exits. Yes. And then this is another location crossing this on poor easement we are in an attempt to reduce easement acquisition we are in the right of way here. But we are very close to the pavement in this location so a flagger, because this is the primary entrance from the north of flagger will be set up here for two way traffic. So we're going to start for entrance and exit into the Panther Heights subdivision here. Okay. Well good. Looks like you've given some thought to all this before so that's great. And so we won't see any fluctuations in our pressure until you line up a contractor for phase two and, and, and they take off and start putting in pipes and then. Would there be any sort of. Interruption in service or should we and or do we. Should we have expectations of any sort of fire hydrants that you might have to open up and flush water lines with. Or is that all going to be determined later. Basically about the clean lines would they put them in service. Olivia, do you think they're so I think that this area allow allows some of the work allows for looping but it should be do anticipate Olivia that they could see an interruption of service. The only time they'd have an interruption of service is if a valve cannot be operated. We do try to set these up so that areas are can be backfed and basically when a small areas isolated it can be backfed and so you wouldn't see it an interruption of service. But I do know over time sometimes valve to get a stock. If they're not operated regularly. So, we don't anticipate an interruption of service at this time. But the city does go. I believe they do go in and check their valves before. Would they try to isolate them. Correct me if I'm wrong. Okay. I think that was all the questions that I had. Anybody else. Had some questions or issues. I think he has covered everything for me and that's why I insisted on him being here. Okay. He knows what we're talking about. So he's very helpful in this instance, but we're thankful that you were able to coordinate this for us. Can anyone hear me. Yes. Great. So this is down in rough and I'm excuse me, member of Panther Heights. And I tried the WebEx and it says the password is wrong. I finally tried on the phone and it appears to be working. Is there anything being shown on a screen. Well, we did show some things on the screen. We, we shared a. The presentation, which you should be able to see on the website if you have an interest in seeing the full presentation. And then we had a map of the traffic control during the project. Okay. So you showed the same stuff that's already available in the other. The maps and the pipes where they're going to go. Yeah. Yeah. So is the password summer or am I typing in the wrong password? Can anyone tell me what we sent out. I know Linda, I sent it to you. That was the correct password. Now, the meeting we had prior to this, we did have an issue with the password, but this time it was, it should have worked for you. If you were looking at the August 10th Mailer. Yes. Give me your name. Give me a favor and put it in the chat. We can't put in the chat. Can you. I can't put it in the chat. No, that's the key. Sally, I can email that to you. Sally. I can give you his name. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. So that's it for me. Okay. And I can send you the link to everything. So that is the same as the previous links, Linda. It is, but David asked some questions. So it has a little more information in it. So you would want to see it. Okay. Great. There's a little more information than last time, but it is basically the same information, but Olivia offered a little more. Informational road possible road interference. Okay. Since you're here, I do want to ask you a quick question and I'm asking us on behalf of everyone else. Who's texted me that they couldn't get in. Is the password somewhere. I didn't have to use the password because I have WebEx on my computer. Me too. And I don't know why it didn't work for you. I'm sorry. Okay. That is one of the concerns in the past. So you don't know what to do in the future. That is one of the concerns with city generated meetings that sometimes people can't get in. Now, great. A lot, a lot don't want to do. But the ones who do, and they can't, they kind of just give up. Okay. And that password was summer, but yes, I understand we've, we've had some trouble with teams as well. Okay. I got right in. This is my first time using WebEx and I didn't have to put in the password. Somebody spoon fed me, I guess. Yeah, it's making me. It's a video up on a project. By, I'm going to say. There's going to be a YouTube video and actually, if you guys want to do that, subscribe to the page. If you get on your project page, you go all the way to bottom and subscribe to the page. You'll know when I load the video. I'll send it to you, Linda. Okay. Thank you. And I'll share it with everybody. I'll share it with everyone so they can get to it. Thank you. And I might add in this information packet that was sent out about this meeting today. It says that there'll be another community construction meeting after you have a contractor on board for phase two. So it will be another opportunity, I suppose, for people who are affected by this to attend a meeting and ask questions. Yeah, that's right. And you know, if you have any follow up questions, you can always reach out to me. You can email or call. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, really, really appreciate everyone's time. Thank you. Absolutely. Have a good evening. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.


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