dhiyay li 250 ne me me  Airlin As your president, I shall serve you with prejudice towards none but compassion and enmity towards all. Today, permit me to adline in broad terms a view initiatives that divide our concept of progressive good governance and furtherance of the Nigerian idea. We shall remodel our economy to bring our growth and develop the GDP much better, achieve the GDP much better than we have today. I assure you, on first subsidy, unfortunately, the budget that have glimpsed before I assume office, and what I've had is that no provision is there for first subsidy. So first subsidy is gone. Desender bank must walk towards a unified exchange rate. Absolutely, so thanks for staying with us now. Most Nigerians suffering from adverse economic hardship, poverty insecurity and poor living standards view this new era as a ray of hope and an opportunity to start afresh. I assume office, they must recognize the enormity of the weight of the hopes of millions they are carrying. It is now time to put behind us whatever views, disenfranchisement or even praise that we have for the Buahari era and build on whatever successes he achieved while fixing the areas where he failed. Mindful of the fact that no leader is infallible. In his speech, the newly sworn in president mentioned that he would govern and not rule, serve with prejudice towards none but compassion towards all. He outlined the principles that will guide his administration and promise to increase the GDP through job creation, food security and an end to extreme poverty. Now adding that women and youth will feature prominently in the administration. He said that the 2023 budget made no provision for fuel subsidy and more so subsidy payment is no longer justifiable and fuel subsidy is gone. Now he concluded his speech by adding that the central bank must work towards a unified exchange rate. Today we are analyzing this new era, the Tiananbu-Shatima era. What do you think the challenges will be and what are your expectations? Please let's hear what you have to say. Remember you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or WhatsApp to the red one 803-4663. You can also tweet at us at Weishu after one with the hashtag Weishu. So quickly let me hear your thoughts because I want to bring in Kunle Lawal in a minute. What do you think? What are your expectations? What do you think the challenges will be? Immediately one is this first subsidy because there is a lot of drama happening. I was talking with my sister, they said why didn't these people just let us take out subsidy ten years ago. Now we are coming back to the same circle, it's full circle and it's the same drama. It's happening all over again, right? Do you think it's something that can be sustained? It's almost like a hit at the beginning of the era. What do you think? Well I think if we truly want change sometimes we need to make the tough decisions and tough decisions means that everybody must... We all agree. I mean so again I also think that misinformation, misunderstanding, when people do not understand. So I think one of the things that this new administration needs to do is to quickly sensitize the people. Absolutely, communicate. Communicate, that's very key because when people know what to expect, then they know how to manage themselves or position themselves in such a way that the blow is not too terrible. But I mean it's like ripping the bandage off one. Sometimes it's absolutely necessary. Absolutely. Let me come to you Unoma quickly. Your thoughts and then I'll bring in Conelawau. Yes, I agree with you all. There are certain measures that need to be taken and taken very quickly to help the economy. I think for the new president there's a lot of opportunity to unify the nation. And I like the fact that you brought in communication. Communication is very key to helping people to understand what your plans are and to direct them towards what you want to be able to accomplish. So for me I think another very important aspect that might be important to consider because I didn't hear it in the course of the speech is the aspect of the debt crisis. We already are owing to the tune of over I think 100 billion or so dollars. And these crisis is also something that we need to pay attention to. The area of insecurity, the aspects of communal conflict, ethnicity and divisions amongst people. Already a lot of citizens have their concerns about the new administration as to how things are going to flow coming from the back of the way elections were carried out in the country. So I think there's a lot of trust that would need to be built for the Nigerian citizens. Absolutely. The direction that they want to take is very key as well. Absolutely. So Kolela Waal is an entrepreneur, idea generator, third-ex-speaker and a patriot. He has a keen eye for opportunities based on his experience in politics working with non-governmental organisations and the federal government. He's very passionate about Nigeria and is what could be termed as a de-trabalised Nigerian. Now he considers his boundaries to be limitless and is really focused on changing the Nigerian narrative in political participation and currently serves as the executive director of Electoral College Nigeria and is also the country lead for World Chat Nigeria. Kolela Waal was once an acting national publicity secretary of Coa Party and I asked for new Nigeria's secretarial candidate at 2019 and has since transitioned to a non-partisan influential player in politics and the electoral matters as regards Nigeria. And he's joined us live from Abuja. Thank you so much Kole for joining us this evening. Kolela Waal, are you there? Thank you and it's a pleasure to be here. Now you're looking very... Thank you very much. And you're Abuja. Hi Kole. So I mean let's quickly just jump into this conversation because sometimes when we start this conversation we think we have time until we start to talk, right? I mean you've heard Deola, you've heard Noma. I mean what Noma raised the debt issue. That's a big issue, issue about insecurity. So we're looking at challenges and expectations, right? There are current challenges right now. This immediate subsidy issue that the president has announced that the end of subsidy is not part of the provision then the amount of debt that is tied neck-deep on the Nigerian... What's it called? The shoulders that the burden of our debt and all of that. What do you think first of all in your own summation? What do you think would be like the immediate concerns for this government in terms of challenges? And are we going to see the same old thing that oh no it was the previous government because this time around is the same party transitioning into another same party because what we've seen in the past is blame game. Are we going to have those kinds of issues with this new transitioning, with this new era or is it going to be just, you know, let's just take on the go-by-the-horn and just work with what we've got. Kule, are you there? Okay, can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you now. Yes, I'm here. Okay, so first and foremost I'd like to congratulate Nigeria on its first servant inauguration and, you know, the continuous law of democracy which is in kind of stifled if you look at other countries within the western African bloc Kodilboa has these issues. A few other countries might lead to has these issues with military and would like to welcome Nigeria to this position. Now that said, it's critical to look at, you know, there's a transfer of power when do has been the same part in the situation. I do not necessarily think it will be the same perspective. The commander-in-chief was different in his own direction and purpose or whatever he wants to do it will be totally different from what already existed. I heard you earlier while you were making mention of you know some things that were going to happen and at this point I need to say this. I don't think it was booby traps from the previous government which is forcing the hand of this new government I think it's us dilly-dallying about necessary decisions which we should have taken a long time ago. Absolutely. Okay, I think Kunle's network is a bit hanging. I think he was going in the direction of the fuel subsidy. Yes, because people have all had you. Kunle are you back? We lost you for a second there. Okay, we lost you for a second. So you said you don't think it was what's it called? You think it's a decision that has to be taken. Go ahead, you can pick it up from there. Okay, so as I was saying I think that presently when we look at it as regards to debt I think it will... Kunle if you can hear us maybe you should just leave the meeting then come back but where he's going with the conversation I really want to hear its analysis on how they intend to manage this debt because this is a huge debt burden on our neck as a country I mean I saw a creative that they had done with the previous government there was Yara Dua there was Abbas Anjou there was Jonathan and Buhari Omo the debts for present Buhari is way, way, way, way huge compared to the previous administrations So I mean I am looking at this is the first time first of all like Norma Reitli said in our Watson news that we are having a government that... sorry, a president that was never in the military he's always been in the space and he's done different things in terms of he was governor he was a lawmaker in lawmaker and all of that so maybe in terms of experience and understanding of the structure he might just... then again he's a businessman he's someone that has done different things he understands how to bring in the investors especially what he did with Lagos State another thing that people are not paying attention to with this government is his wife I mean all the first ladies they've never been like actively involved in politics because she has been a long time serving senator she's lived so even outside of just the fact that there's a president there's a wife that also when I was listening to her speech she said she's a silent worker in fairness it's true so I mean again with all of these scorecards I would call them we have high expectations that this would not be another business as usual for Nigeria we are hoping because again two things that stood out for me when the president was talking he talked about compassion and he said no prejudice he's going to live by compassion he also said govern because you are very used to leaders using the word rule so this was the first time I would hear someone say govern so which is good because again I've always said that this is not a and he said something around seeking people's opinion not just being a dictator to say this is what we're doing but you see Ute has always argued that our democracy is a bit flawed that we really do not need just clear called democracy we need something in between democracy and autocracy so whatever it is that we're doing as a government we must just really say you know what we have to do the rest let us just suffer once and for all and I think that was where Kunle was going but I don't know if Kunle is back now okay so let me hear your thoughts so I was going through his Mino girl's speech and one of the things that I like that he mentioned I mean he he was quick to touch on the human angle of it which is okay interest rate which is also the monetary policy you know you know trying to quickly address these issues because this goes to the very core of everyday living for people you know you want small businesses to try he said he want to buy a radio he said the lapis has gone exactly I mean he makes sense the truth is these are simple things that the people on the streets can understand they don't understand your inflation it doesn't concern them so but when you speak directly to what really concerns them it's quick for them to say oh okay he understands what we are going through okay maybe just maybe we would find some form of resolution he has said quite clearly that his administration would you know the the monetary policy that you know the change of currency and all that but we are still going ahead and both are legal tenders for now you know and that's what the policy in itself is good like we all said the implementation of it so I mean these for me are things that and then of course it talks about representation of women and youths in the government it was very very direct and clear about we are losing you you are in and out are you back now with us yeah it's great to be back I think in that talk it's a little stable now yeah go ahead so you were talking about the debt crisis that we are facing in Nigeria so look at Nigeria's debt ratio we must quickly say that most of the forex living in the country has to do with subsidising subsidising for petroleum products and so we make both spend more subsidising to bring in so taking out subsidy mean that we have a little bit more the fistful of dollars to play now that it puts into service in debt or that it puts into it could be sleeping to 50-50 because you are looking at approximately 1 trillion which is I think it will take about close to about 600-70 billion dollars and when you look at that you can now divide it into necessary how some things and you can now say let's put this into education let's put this into health and then keep the rest of the service in debt but now this will be left to the government deciding to make use of what it already has existing to take such actions yes we will be grateful to Nigeria we will be dodging a bullet in the future yes we will be dodging a bullet in the future coming from a new government I think if it starts on this note it means that it is fully focused on vitalising the Nigerian economy but that's not that's not a job too fast let's just hope that this step is taking us really hard for the betterment of Nigeria which I think we are okay so Nana alright so quite with what you've said I mean I want to ask in your expert opinion what will this administration be able to achieve there's a lot that is on how do I put it there's a lot of black blood so to speak currently both with the citizens I mean there are a lot of people that are unhappy and beginning an administration in that kind of tense environment is an opaque task so to speak so in your expert opinion what would you, what are the things that this administration would need to pay attention to apart from the subsidy dealing with that but what are some of the concerns that we might want to quickly also pay attention to respect to the Nigerian citizens and the mindsets of failed promises by politicians what can they do differently as well to salvage the current mindset of Nigerians well I wish I wish I could wear the crown of the expert opinion you are giving me in normal what are attempts for my direct thought process of how maybe I think the country should run and try to attempt this so I think first and foremost for this government I think a national unity directive should be given Nigeria is the most divisive as it has ever been in our sense 1966 we have fallen on ethically and religious lines campaigns to show those kind of thought processes that are deeply within the future of Nigeria when we used to think it was just a thing of older people but I think that is the first thing first job this government has to do we also have to take a very strong stand I think agitation within the country and by strong stand I don't mean a brute force approach what I am looking at is first some people should be called to the table and negotiate Nigeria everyone and keeping it on is the task of any president or any government we should also be very clear that any reasonable offence is not intolerable I think Nigerians the development have become quite lawless in the approach of doing things when we go especially in different places and even in four hour bro I think this country is the only country where you have people discussing matters abroad and the first thing they do is throw the land of the green white green under the bus and I think that this is something called to the development of people in this country if you don't be in Nigeria then what are you building your country for so I think we need to build that psyche and we need to respond to all these situations and then also keep to providing provision and security I think security with balance security is the foundation of which infrastructure which has been developed by parts government really focused on infrastructure will be very key and will be seen but let's go on a very short break because I know that the vice president according to what he said during the campaign his strongest boosting point was the fact that he had the solution to insecurity in this country so we'll go on a break when we come back from the break we'll continue the conversation stay with us alright thanks for staying with us and if you're just tuned in we're discussing the tenable and shatima era we're asking what do you think the challenges would be and what are the expectations we should have from this new administration and we have with us now please let's hear what you have to say remember you can join the conversation send us an sms or whatsapp to the rate one 80284663 you can also twitter that way this is interesting because when Noma is talking about division trust me like the mood in the country is not like the mood when president Muhammad in 2015 because in 2015 it seemed like the will of the people the everybody there was so much joy in the air it was only our parents that said you people have entered one chance but then we could care less but the mood in the air this time around was a lot different everybody is a lot more quiet everybody is reminiscing and I think again in fairness I like the spirit that Nigerians are not expecting too much because again I don't want you to be what's the word now when you say again so I was just even going to ask when I hear people say big statements like I would not disappoint you that statement is very very very very very vague as far as I'm concerned because sometimes what I have in my mind you are actually just validating so I'm not even disappointed because I expected this so when I hear statements like oh I would not disappoint you shouldn't we start to get better communication with our leaders don't tell us vague statements be very clear and be very specific because again clarity helps to define a lot of things it shapes a lot of things so how can we get our leaders to start talking more assertive this is what we're doing we will not disappoint you because disappointment is relative but let me come to you Kunle I hear your network is back now sorry this is our abuja network Kunle are you there I'm down there I think it will function a bit without video just to go ahead so did you hear this no I didn't hear the guy I didn't catch the question no I was just going to ask there are nearly one in leaders they come out and say oh I will not disappoint you and all of that shouldn't we stop those rhetoric and start to demand for more assertive or clear said goals and just be very very definitive in terms of what you're saying don't tell me you will not disappoint me because disappointment is actually very relative for me first and foremost the person asking not to be disappointed doesn't even know the functions of the executive and they realized the problem so are we going to really go into this and pick one side or we're going to deal with this from both sides so the general functions of the executive of course lies with the enforcement of laws appointment meeting security legislative functions they have the ability needs to make executive orders and with citizens haven't really fully understood that so are disappointments most of the time if you look at Nigerians is that the largest didn't reach me once the largest riches you have come on the government is fine regardless of what's happening to anybody else so are we going to have a collective response towards what we're going to demand for a account the demand for while demanding accountability or are we going to have the usual Nigerian personal response towards the government and if permitted use this language if government be me so key everybody else we enter one chance and that's one of the problems with holding government accountable in Nigeria for me I think if we follow the exact parameters of holding this government accountable I've always said you cannot engage a system which you do not understand and therein lies the biggest problem in Nigeria Nigerians try to hold a legislator accountable for not putting down roads or building schools that's not his job it's totally not his function constitutions are not even constitutional so what are you talking about and then you know you now want the president to do alpha and omega things which are totally out of his jurisdiction well the president can do it like in the last dispensation because guess what nobody reach the constitution nobody cares if president breaks the rules of separation of powers and for me that is where I find the problem with Nigeria so we need to first understand what exactly needs to be done then engage and ask for what needs to be done the import has has been held in one be pointed fingers so much the politicians the politicians they are from also so we need to stop responsibilities as citizens and actually act as we are supposed to act then we can get the desired results so it's not a government is only responsible for a democracy to work the government and the people have to be responsible and that's the birth of a real democracy this is interesting you wanna come in 100% agree with what Oleya has said like I always say the leadership is always sometimes a mirror of the followership if we really get our duties as followers and we don't do what we ought to do we don't know what we need to know then invariably we are setting up the leadership to fail it's just as simple as that but if we are invested in this change in this notion that Nigeria needs to work then everybody everybody has their responsibilities everybody needs to come to the table and say oh okay I know that I need to do this if I'm going to say that okay I don't expect corruption from my leaders then at the very lowest level I shouldn't be corrupt it's as simple as that but again Nigerians are used to we have a certain standard for people at the top and we just feel that well at our level okay it's expected we can do anything that we like and nobody can question us but that has to stop Nama you want to come in yeah I agree with Diola but I also want to take it from the angle of the leadership itself because leadership is a reflection of the people and if the people are not confident in the leaders that they have raised then it's because things have changed maybe the people are beginning to change they are beginning to see a different perception or have a different view or opinion or perception towards what a leader should be so I believe that the leadership has a very key role to play in guiding the people because the leadership is what the entire world will see and when we get things right at the level of leadership it can also trickle down to the members when we begin to do things by example so it's not just even though it's important very critically important for the Nigerians citizens to begin to hold our leaders accountable the leaders themselves should also be able to hold themselves accountable it's not just about giving promises or putting out promises that continue to be on met expectations of the citizens we need to rise beyond the point where we just have people that claim to have the solution to the problems and only compound the situation and this is where I believe the new government the new administration would have to really go and look inwards as to what we can critically begin to do to show the Nigerians citizens that we have them we have them as top priority and we are accountable so it's not just about promises it's about action that Nigerians can see and they too can begin to hold themselves accountable not just their leaders but themselves accountable as Nigerians citizens or very very poor communication even though you have very fantastic things that you're doing if you do not communicate it right you lose you actually it's almost like you're not doing anything so if you had one thing to say what would that be to the new dispensation to the new era what would be your counsel to them well I think it would be what I have pushed for the most which is build a law for country the most marginalized tribe in Nigeria is being Nigeria we have multiple tribes everybody wants to be Europe we have a fake team house in Poland what's the most marginalized tribe in Nigeria is being Nigeria everybody else that fights with you being Nigeria so I think we need to build up a Nigerian ideology and create a Nigeria and have the Nigerian tribe that rises above everything federal character rotational presidency and all other issues which we deal with I feel building up the real Nigeria will be is key to the development of those black mission alright thank you normal we have a message while you're trying to get out that message I was going to talk about this decentralizing of power Kunle just maybe a word or two on that but normal you have a message and Kunle will come back alright so this message yeah this message is from Daniel Illo and he says good evening my dear beautiful sisters of what are you saying hashtag ways continued bull and shatima era challenges and expectations we thank god for another book and chapter that has opened in Nigeria the challenges may have in this administration or the challenges this administration may have is that it may take time for things to change the expectations is that this administration must be better than the last one I hope this administration will not be easier said than done time we wear the shoe and know where it pinches if this administration is not ready to deliver then they have no business being in office the past eight years has been a waste and this present government must not be a waste thank you Daniel is a regular fan alright so Kunle okay I feel that we over discuss over flog this decentralization if you go to Nigerian constitution the powers are already decentralize if a state governor decides to kidnap local governments at will because they didn't use the word autonomy in the constitution while providing it's the same executive functions as state governor for me that is the citizen's choice is also us tolerating it from the governor things that have been decentralized already which we do not concentrate about like let's say state electoral commissions I can remember when last state governor allowed an opposing party we need local government chairman seat and you are talking about decentralization okay well we can as well decentralize the police so that nobody can talk against an emperor of the state so the truth is that the real question is the decentralization we are talking about all the decentralization the constitution provides I don't think we are especially with the emperors of state which are so on it about 28 new ones again playing out in my head because I believe that we are at a crossroad especially with the like normally at least the agitations that summed up up until today so it's almost like you know what I want them to prove a lot of Nigerians wrong because a lot of Nigerians are believing that oh it's really the young people they believe they are old first of all they coming into power they were just too many was it called abnormalities that happened around the elections and all of that so I mean if they say you know what I would prove to you people that I was the right leader for the job I was the right best map for the job that's fine that's good because again we are tired in this country or plain small several times and I'll say it again the kind of capacity that Nigeria has there are some things that we have no business with how do we start to improve on our economy in the way that we are the ones exporting and earning forex instead of just depending on imports only right how do we do what's it called how do we also harness the resources natural resources that we have I mean the amount of bitumen deposit for instance in Nigeria the amount of bitumen deposit in Nigeria we have no business having one single pothole on the roads we have no business with potholes with the amount of bitumen that we have as reserve that has not been touched it has not even been touched right so just imagine if we had a government that say you know what we have a plan we have a blueprint and this is where we are going and we actually start to see and this is not just white wash kind of structure where somebody comes and do the same project that the previous acquisition did look at a lot of our roads one rain and everything is just gone into the drains let's be really deliberate about fixing our countries and I think Nigeria is not even asking for too much Nigerians are not asking for too much let's sort out the power and let's sort out the infrastructure and security once those things are sorted we can take care of ourselves as a people your final parting comments to the new era what do you think what you want to tell them well I'm hopeful and I'm wishing them the very best I'm hoping that they do their very best I'm hoping that they put round pegs in round poles and it's not business as usual it's not political I mean it's where in like you said a cross road and this is not time for political yes political is part of governance but at the same time I mean right now we have to focus on governance you have to focus on governance you have to put people who truly you know who truly understand the vision as the president you know people who understand the vision of the Nigeria that you think we can we can be and people who are ready to work with you I mean no sentiments and let's just let's just work with them if you had the final thing to say what would that be well like Dela said I wish them the best and like Kunle said think Nigeria so for me it's just think Nigeria in your policies and whatever decisions that you are making think about the Nigerian citizens build Nigeria look for the opportunities to help to to push Nigeria forward to where she is supposed to be and be Nigeria well all Nigerians and there's so much resource in this country I think that if we really really like Napoleon he will say whatever the mind can conceive the mind can achieve it so if the new administration conceives the idea of a new Nigeria I believe that they have the capacity or they will have the capacity to achieve it absolutely I think on that note but thank you so much Kunle Lawal thank you Noma and thank you Diola we have a fantastic conversation truly want to say congratulations again to Nigeria there was a peaceful transition we didn't have any rank or whatever but we also want to wish the new administration success we really hope for a better economy honestly speaking some things are promising and we hope they are able to achieve it so before we go follow us across all our social media handles so that way so Africa you can interact with us further drop a comment and more importantly follow all our engagements on social media like share and invite your families and friends to watch and follow the 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Hello, everyone. This is Mr. P and welcome to Canada and to my class. So, in this video lesson, we're going to talk about obviously Canada and that's Lake Lorraine in Alberta. And we have a maple leaf. So, old Canada, first of all, is the anthem of Canada and we're going to do that later on. This slide is divided into maps, symbols, facts, cities, animals, sports and money. So, let's talk about the map. Canada is divided into ten provinces and three territories. The territories are in the north. Yukon, northwest territories and Nunavut. Then in the south, we have British Columbia, BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec or Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island of the coast of Nova Scotia. You may pause the video if you need to write the capitals of the provinces and territories. Next up is the symbols of Canada. So, the symbol of Canada is the maple leaf. It's also in our flag. The Queen of England, Elizabeth II, is also the Queen of Canada. Now, let's talk about facts about Canada. Canada is the second biggest country in the world. It is bilingual, so that means two languages are spoken officially in Canada, so English and French. Canada is a multicultural country. There are people from Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, etc. The Prime Minister is the head of the government. It is one of the richest and safest countries in the world. Canada's national parks are bigger than most countries. These are just a few facts about it. There are many more. So, the biggest cities. First of all, like I said, the capital of Canada is Ottawa, and it is in Ontario. The capital of Ontario is Toronto. Other biggest cities are Montreal, Toronto, we said, Vancouver, Quebec City, Calgary, Edmonton, etc. So, let's talk about Ottawa. That's the capital and that's Parliament Hill. So, it is the capital of Canada. It has a population of 812,000 people making it the fourth largest city in the country. Ottawa is also the centre of Canadian politics and industry. It has a lot of museums, government buildings, memorials and official residences. It has very developed high-tech industry and is known also as Silicon Valley North. Many well-known universities such as Carleton, Algonquin, St. Paul and the University of Ottawa are there. Next one, Montreal. It is the second largest city of Canada. It was originally called Villemarie, City of Mary. It has 1.5 million people. Most people speak at least two languages, French and English, so they are bilingual. The most famous spot in the city is Mount Royal Park, the largest green space in the area. Its economy is the second of all cities of Canada. Developed technology, culture, finance, world affairs, commerce, etc. Next one is Toronto or Toronto. It has a population of 2.5 million and is the fifth biggest city in North America. The most famous buildings are CN Tower, Royal Ontario Museum, the Ontario College of Art and Design, and also tourists like to visit Toronto Zoo, the Art Gallery of Ontario, etc. The city has seven major league sports in hockey, baseball, basketball, football, lacrosse and soccer. Next city is Quebec City or Quebec City. It has a population of 491,142. It is the oldest European city in North America. Nickname is La Ville Capital. There are a lot of great buildings there, Civilization Museum, Espèce Félix Le Clac, Chocomuse Édicot, Icarium Park of Quebec, etc. And every year there is a Winter Carnival in February and the well-known Saint-Jean-Vatiste Day. It's a festival that attracts many tourists. The next one is Vancouver. It has a population of 2.5 million. The famous University of British Columbia is located there. And the buildings there that we can find are Christ Church Cathedral, the Hotel Vancouver, the Vancouver Art Gallery, etc. Now these are some pictures of regions or provinces. In this case we have Newfoundland, then we have Nova Scotia. It's located on the East Coast, Prince Edward Island near Nova Scotia, New Brunswick. So animals found in Canada. We have obviously, I'm sure you saw geese. We have also foxes, bears and wolves. Then we have musk oxen, hawks and alks. Musk rats, squirrel, loon and moose. Popular sports in Canada. Obviously we have hockey and that's the Maple Leafs, the Toronto Maple Leafs. Baseball, the Blue Jays, Toronto Blue Jays. We have soccer, basketball, the Raptors right there. And now the last point that I want to talk about is the Canadian money. So these are $150, $20, $10 and $5 bill. And these are the Canadian coins. So we have a nickel for 5 cents, a dime, 10 cents, a penny, 1 cent, a quarter, 25 cents, a loonie, $1 and a toonie, $2. I hope you enjoyed the lesson. If you have any questions, please type them under the video. If you haven't subscribed to my channel, please do. Like, just click on the like button if you liked the lesson and then share it. So long. Bye-bye.


Hi, Jeff Rick here in the Powell offices of Silicon Angles theCUBE. We're here for a CUBE conversation. We like to do these every now and then, get updates from some of our friends, find out what's going on, and we're really excited to have Noam Shandar in. The COO of Zadara Storage. Zadara is really doing well, and we just saw you most recently, I believe at AWS Summit in San Francisco. So good to see you again. You too. So I was just joking, doing a little bit of background before the interview here. There's no such thing as an overnight sensation.  Yes, yeah. Talk about how the market has changed, really, as your product development has changed and your maturity, now you're going to market, you're getting a lot of customers, but talk about the change of the attitudes of cloud and the attitude about AWS specifically, and how that really has morphed over, was amazingly two or three years. Yeah, so a couple of things have happened, and it's kind of interesting. So one is, yes, when we started, it was very difficult to convince customers to move into the cloud. So we had to go into the cloud and find who's already there and sell to them, whereas now it's not even a question. So we as an industry have cleared that hurdle. Nobody's asking why cloud or, should you know, is it safe enough? Is it good enough? Right. But the other thing that's super interesting is exactly a year ago, we announced our on-premises service, and that's flying off the shelves, which tells you that as awesome as cloud is, there's still a huge market on-premises. It could be things that aren't allowed to move into the cloud, or it could be things that just aren't ready yet. And at least as far as we see, it is still a far larger market. So we see, I think we're hedging, because we are in both places at the same time, customers can choose and they can change their mind later. So we don't really have a strong opinion on which is right. Right. But Pat Gelsinger and a whole bunch of people hybrid is the answer, right? There is no absolute answer. It's all application-specific. Application will drive the requirements for the infrastructure, as well as the storage is being part of that. So that's not inconsistent. But what's interesting about what you guys do, and maybe we should just let you give a quick kind of 411 on Zidara for people that don't know the company, is you still use the cloud as a method, as a way of doing business, as a way to deliver your services, even if it's not actually in a cloud, if it's on-prem. That's right. We observed when we started, but like you said, it's not overnight success we've been at it well over four years. We observed in the very beginning that customers like the cloud business model and it's not just the business model. It's the ease of use and the simplicity and the lack of headaches. So all of a sudden the burden of ownership is gone. I don't have to worry about maintenance. I don't have to worry about hot fixes or firmware upgrades or anything like that. It goes away and yet the product gets better over time just without downtime. So what we saw as customers were realizing, wait a second, when I use Amazon, life is really easy, why is this thing that's sitting in my data center so difficult? And we saw it and succeeded in making a product that is as robust as the traditional data center product but offered with a pure cloud model, with the live upgrades and are taking care of things behind the scenes so that customers don't have the burden of ownership and magically, but not magically through good design, they save money. So we usually think of renting a car or even having a chauffeur car is being very, very expensive but our value proposition is it doesn't have to be that way. You can actually have the chauffeur car experience for less than buying the car. Okay, so you covered a lot of things here.  That's right. You find people like that. People love it. Again, they obviously love the concept. Their biggest question is, well, what is it gonna cost me? Because they're thinking about the rental car which is more expensive in the long term than buying a car and we tell them what the price is and we also now have commissioned a study that shows you say, obviously save money on day one because you haven't purchased anything but the longer you own it, the more you save. And even after 10 years, you're still at a 50% savings versus the traditional storage. And we get it done two ways. One is as commodity hardware. So we don't have any component that isn't manufactured in at least tens of millions of units and some in hundreds of millions of units. The other is we remotely operate these, call them appliances and we designed these appliance to be easily remotely managed by us which means that the marginal cost for us to add one more is almost zero. Whereas traditionally when you buy a piece of storage and storage array, you have to dedicate a person to that. So we dedicate a small fraction of a person and that's a savings, a significant savings versus the total cost of ownership and we pass those savings on to the customers. And that's the part I guess that you would say or at least came out of your study that most people miss about the rent versus own because like you said, classic kind of thought process would be yes, I can rent but at some scale, owning is buyer, I can amortize my cost over all this business I'm doing and all the utilization but what gets left off is the operating expense that goes and wraps around the actual hardware. Yeah, absolutely. And by some studies, those operating expenses could be half again as much as the cost of the product every year. Right, right, and they don't get cheaper like storage tends to do every year. That's right. Yeah, so that's great. So let's shift gears a little bit. We cover a lot of hot topics. We go to a lot of cool shows. AWS was super new three years ago, not so much anymore. We're looking forward to going back to reinvent here shortly but one of the really hot spaces right now is Docker. And we took the cube to DockerCon and it's all about containers and it's just kind of this next manifestation of the consumerization of IT in the expected way that apps are supposed to work and a big part of that theme is like you said, remove all the headache. My developers just want to get to work and build cool apps and deploy cool apps. You guys have some stuff going on with Docker. So I wonder if you can give us an update on what Zadar is doing with Docker specifically in containers in general. Absolutely, so in June, we launched what we call Zadar container services. And Zadar container services simply put is Docker running inside the storage. The beauty of that is that now the storage and the computer are in the same place. So if you need very low latency access to the data or very high throughput access to the data, this is one way to get it done. And it's using the same cloud business model as the storage. So you get what we call is ECS engines. ECS being the Zadar container services. And you can size that engine any way you see fit from very small to very large. The smallest one is free. So we want our customers to experiment with this because it's a new way of doing things. There's not a track record of running Docker inside storage. So we say, hey, give it a try at no cost. And then larger engines cost an increasing amount of money per hour. So you can use it for an hour or two or a day or a month or a year. It doesn't matter. We charge you based on the actual usage. You can dynamically grow and shrink it. So let's say they have a task that has a shifting need in terms of the amount of resources that it consumes. No problem. You can auto scale it up or down and you can shut it down when you're not using it. So just to be clear then, so what people are doing is basically writing their app as they would normally but then they're deploying it to a particular Docker container. That's the one that's sitting inside is at our storage. Exactly. And by running Docker with a full fledged storage system, you get some things that you don't get with traditional Docker because when Docker runs on the server, it gets access to the local storage but it doesn't get shared storage. It doesn't get persistent storage and it doesn't get high availability storage. So for those uses where you don't need those, fine. So there are certainly plenty of uses for Docker where you have an ephemeral data set and you don't need to keep it. These are sometimes called stateless applications but as soon as you're stateful, all of a sudden there's a question, how do I do that? And this is what we enable. So the data is persistent in its high availability and it's shared. So multiple Docker containers and also multiple Docker containers and multiple VMs can access the same storage at the same time. It's pretty crazy. This thing just keeps getting more and more virtualized, more and more virtualized. I wonder, so the other than kind of knock on Docker, there's some stuff on Twitter today is does it open up a new security hole? Some had a great, are you willing to bet your job on the security of the container? So how have you guys addressed that in terms of adding this new element into your kind of controlled system? Yeah, it's a great question and it's one of those things that we get because of our architecture. So the architect, we call our product the VPSA, the virtual private storage array and the P in VPSA is very important because the privacy is achieved through dedicated resources. Each customer gets their own VPSA, one or more VPSAs and each VPSA has dedicated CPUs, dedicated memory, dedicated drives, both SSDs and hard drives, and a dedicated network. So anything you do in the ZCS and this is our container services is inside your VPSA which means it's running on dedicated cores of dedicated memory inside your private network which means it's every bit as secure as whatever your network setup is and it doesn't open up any new holes because it lives within this bubble, if you will. Okay, okay. Do you have any customers that have put this to use to talk about? Yeah, a number of them and we've publicly talked about a company called StudioTac, they're out in North Carolina and they are in the architectural and construction space and they are a service provider to these companies that deal with a lot of drawings and plans and those come in many different formats and there needs to be a conversion from one format to other formats for anything that comes in and that used to be done in batch fascia with the server running these conversion processes and that's fine and good but there are sometimes as many as a million of these files and even one or two milliseconds of latency between the storage and the server add up to a lot of time. So this is where when we announced to this customer that we're doing Docker containers, they jumped for joy. They said this is exactly what we need. So they already used Docker so we didn't have to introduce them to Docker and they already containerized their conversion process and now all they need to do is upload this container into the storage and now the conversion is done both far, far faster because now you're not multiplying a millisecond by a million files but also it's automatic because it's event driven. The storage informs the container a new file has arrived, what would you like to do? Right, right, let's do that process, interesting.  You guys list 100% SLA, right? You're beyond the nine, is that accurate? So if the drive goes down in this unit that's in my network, how do you guys, how's it get fixed? So the very short and glib answers, it's not your problem, it's our problem. So the system is over provision, it has a lot of spare drives and in the event that a drive fails, two things happen. One is rate protection kicks in so you still have access to your data no matter what and then the other thing is a substitution of a healthy drive for an unhealthy one and this can be done completely automatically and transparently in a matter of seconds or you can do it manually with three commands and you can script it or anything like that. Most of our customers actually choose to do this manually because they don't wanna pay for an extra drive that's on standby because it's just three API commands to do a drive replacement so they say I'll just do that. It'll take me a minute instead of a second but I'm happy with that. But the beauty of it is to you, you have what looks like an infinite pool of drives, you can replace drives anytime for any reason. Maybe you wanna change drive type or maybe a drive failed and it's up to us to periodically sweep through, take the bad drives out. For those customers who want it, we shred those drives which is kind of, if you ever watched it, it's really cool. It definitely- Like a big chipper? It's like a big chipper. For those of us with an appetite for destruction, it's really cool and for other customers, we just wipe them. I mean, in fact, the customers have the option to perform the wipe themselves that's built into the system which is good practice before you return a drive into circulation, you wanna make sure that it's clean. Right. I wanna delve into another piece of the puzzle I don't think a lot of people talk about and you've talked about it before. When people are comparing kind of CapEx versus Apex and they're talking about having these elastic systems that really move with your application demands. And you made a really interesting comment on a prior interview talking about planning cycles. Right, everyone kind of forgets about budget planning cycles except the sales guy when he's trying to make it close, right? He knows that budget cycle pretty well but your budget cycles don't necessarily work with your planning cycles which don't necessarily work with the application uptake your application delivery cycle especially today in a world of agile where people are pumping code out like crazy. I wonder if you could talk about some of the experiences that you have had with customers potentially that really see now the value of aligning not only the purchase and the gear with the apps but that painful process called the budgeting cycle and the procurement cycle which is real. Yes, so as you said it's painful regardless of timing because with the traditional CapEx model you're buying something very expensive and you're stuck with it for years upon years so you better choose the right thing which means you have to do a lot of research you have to forecast your own needs and then you have to compare your needs versus everything out there in the marketplace it takes many months and at the end you're wrong anyway because it's impossible to predict the future and also you're so afraid of being caught short that you over purchase. One of the things that showed up in the TCO study that we did, the total cost of ownership is on top of all the other savings I mentioned there's also the savings of not having to over provision you only pay for what you use you never pay for idle capacity so that's yet another efficiency that we introduce so very painful cycles and you repeat every few years it's literally a Sisyphian effort you roll the rock to the top of hill and then three to five years later it's back at the bottom of the hill and you start over but on top of that is what you mentioned is the budgeting cycles we have one of our customers is Cal Poly they're a university, they're part of the Cal State system they're dependent on state funding which comes only once a year if they have a need in the middle of the budgeting cycle too bad, you can't so when they discovered us they said this is it this is the solution, it's only OPEX I don't have any upfront investment and I can source it whenever I need it if I need more during the academic term I use more, if I need less right now they're off, it's summer guess what? their system is idle and they're paying a very small amount because they're not using it it's perfect so they save money and they adjust to their actual real-time needs rather than to something that they thought they need a couple years back well and in a world where you had your SAP installation and you didn't really swap it out that often you could at least have a little bit more accuracy on your forecasting on your demands because your transactional growth your storage growth all those things had a much more predictable pace but now things are just going bananas and you just don't know and the demand for apps is just going crazy and then oh yeah there's this whole big data thing going on in the background as well so what if you've been at it for a while you guys are in the marketplace you're having some success what's kind of next? where do you see kind of the next big wave big challenge, big opportunity both versus it are but kind of in general as this market continues to move along this cycle so let's start with the market in general I think we've now proven that as a service is what customers want we prove it not through market share because we're still we're on a very aggressive ramp but we're still small by the larger scheme of things but we've proven it by the kind of customers that we've brought on board and by the companies who didn't win the very same bids when I would also add and also by the applications in which you're supporting correct probably really important we're talking about mainstream applications including mission critical applications at companies up to and including Fortune 100 and Fortune 50 companies so I think we can now state with confidence this is for real and the challenge for the industry is to get with the program there are companies who are resisting as a service trend and it's understandable it requires retooling everything so it's a monumental task and then there are companies who are service washing so they say we're as a service I'm not going to name names but a reporter in our industry wrote a recent story about as a service offerings and when you read the story all the companies mentioned do not offer an as a service offering they may provide some capacity on demand or some flexible pricing model but they don't actually provide a service so parts of the industry still don't distinguish what is true as a service and what is not and we talked about it in one of the previous interviews to me that's the litmus test do you have the headache of ownership if you do it's not as a service right okay so that's everyone's accepted it where's it go next I think it's going I think it's going to sweep across and some companies will adopt it faster but where it goes next is IT in general not just storage but IT in general will be consumed using a cloud model because that's what companies need they need to and by the way it'll cascade very quickly if competitor X has the ability to be very agile deploy new applications quickly and serve their customers better and sooner then competitor Y has to get with that program or else they'll be left behind so what we do is exactly that we enable companies to decide what they want to do and then just do it whereas with the old model is here's what I want to do but here's what I can do and they're not the same because I've locked into an IT infrastructure that didn't anticipate what I need right now right but then there's also kind of that locked in application in the stuff that runs on that infrastructure that for a lot of it's probably easy just to let it be, let it run I always go back to like the classical the airline reservation system when you watch the agent behind the counter tap into that system there's no reason to change that out that thing works just fine and then what about for Czar what's kind of the next hill for you guys to climb our biggest challenge is scaling so we're growing very quickly so I became COO in February of this year we didn't have a COO until then and so we needed to reach the next level of maturity and have the structure in place to keep growing at the pace that we've been growing so when we look at it is we're in such a good position and the customers are so passionate about the product it's how do we keep adding customers at the same pace keep and honestly it's really on us because when we go into a customer and they like the model we win, there's not a good alternative for that so that means we need to visit as many customers as possible right, right we just have to have the queue but this is our summit I saw you guys were all chilling out and looked like a very cold place to have a drink with your jackets all right, we'll give you the last word before we let you go what can we look forward to I'm sure we'll see you again at Reinvent you have some exciting news that you're working on some new things coming out we have exciting news all the time but we're going to focus anything takes time to adopt so we're going to focus on Zadar container services we're going to focus on backup test 3 both very popular features and we will I think you'll hear us talking about those features and the adoption and actual customers using those more and more until we're ready for another feature announcement so we try not to move too quickly for the market because then we end up with features that aren't being used right, well passionate customers are always your best sales force and we see that time and time again at the shows that we go to like at ServiceNow it's blank in a lot of these places where they just have a parade of customers that are really excited about using that technology because it's really delivering value to them so that's a good thing to keep working on awesome, well I know I'm shut there thanks for stopping by from Zadar Storage you're watching Jeff Frick keep conversation 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