Hello, welcome to Top ETV today. We are ranking Everton's Premier League goalkeepers. We're doing a top 10. Thoughts about a top five, but you know what, we'll do a top 10. Now the criteria to get into this list, they have to play 15 league games or more on the Premier League. Now that rules out Sander Westervelt. It rules out Espen Barton, who once wore training trackies, on top them with the gwsr down by his knees. Robbie King got a hat-trick, so he's out the picture. It rules out Stefan Vessels, Carl-on Nash, those kind of goalkeepers, Jan Mucka. I know a few people would have wanted Mucka in there, but it's taken those goalkeepers out of the equation. So we're doing the top 10 and we're going to begin in 10th place. 10th place is Paul Gerrard. Paul Gerrard, 90 games for Everton in the Premier League era. 22 clean sheets, bought by Joe Royal, bought as Neville Southall's replacement, I think, was the idea. It was very, very highly rated when we got Paul Gerrard. It started off, I think, but it never quite went the way it should have done with Paul Gerrard. It didn't help that he was rubbish. No, he was rubbish. I think a couple of moments that I remember him was Manchester United. It was a very close game. I think we were getting beat 1-0, and Paul came over from the main standside and he just came out of catch. He completely missed it, and then Canton and I got a tap in. At 1-0 we were massively in the game. It was a 0-0, but it was a key goal. I think the other one was Middlesbury in the FA Cup, the 3-0. Walter Smith's final game, I think, Estowney played a back pass, and he just never went in. I thought you were going to say Aston Villa in the last minute. Paul Mason sort of fell over. He just fell backwards. I mean, the ball ended up going in at about that height.  Which is incredible, just because he'd come out and just put, never would he just come out and go in. Shout me over this.  Now he was saying. He had those moments. He had games where you looked and you thought he's on it now, he's got it right for it. It just, he never ever put. He just looked like the confidence went down. It's one of those, I was going to say, he's a goalkeeper who has confidence issues. Anything any goalkeeper who has confidence issues can't be a goalkeeper. Not forever. No for anyone. You just can't be a confidence. You can't be a goalkeeper if you've got confidence issues. You just can't. You have to be, you have to have it mentally. It's an unforgiven position. You make a mistake. It's a, most times it's a goal, isn't it? So you can't be that fella. So Paul Gerrard is number 10. For us, number nine, a goalkeeper we bought from Tramia for £3 million, apparently, when he was young. Yeah, some, some, what I would say about this player is, if he, if this happened today, there'd be some, yeah, spotlight. The spotlight would be on us. The book would be thrown at us. But we bought them. Come in. It is Steve Simonson. He played 30 times for Everton at eight clean sheets. I'll be honest, right? I always like Simonson. I thought he looked like a really good goalie. He had some brilliant gains for Everton, but then he's just, I don't know, he's just never really, he's another one that I don't think fulfilled his position. My career went down hill faster in his hairline, and that tells you how fast it went. Life came at him faster. It did. He was one of those where he came in, looked brilliant for Tramia, everyone was after him. We had a slight advantage. Multi club. I wouldn't want to say any more than that for legal reasons. DJ's for those. But we got him. And again, another one that he just too much maybe too soon. Never, he just never got a good run of games with any consistency. Before, you know, he was moving on. I remember going to Bolton. He was in Gollum, Pair Flants, and took a free kick when he was organising the wall. We were getting beat. Things like that. But he did have seen him have some good games for Everton, but yeah, just didn't ever seem to be able to command that number one spot for Everton, but he is number nine. This wasn't either of, for us, of tabulance, wasn't it? Tabulance wasn't it? In the goal? No, we'd had Neville Sheldor for so long that everything after him was always going to be a down step on it, a down grade. But I thought, we thought him and some was better than Gerard in that. Number eight, a goalkeeper Everton bought David Moyes. It was his first time, a job always his first, but bought this fella from Arsenal. Very highly rated, been a Ripswitch. Gone to Arsenal, Everton bought him in. I was really pleased when we got him. Young English goalkeeper. He's going to be tremendous for us. It is Richard Wright. Richard Wright, 60 games for Everton, 17 clean sheets. Not terrible. Seem to have an issue with shots. Shots as one. Warm-up signs in goalmots is another one. Keep off the grass. Jump back onto that sign, don't his ankle in, meant he was ruled out of an FA Cup game. Haven't been named in the start at the level. The loft didn't agree with falling off the loft, it's a shoulder. It's debut for Everton, top number home. Les Ferdinand, it's a P-roller and it somehow went under him. But he did go to Sunderland a week later and make a brilliant save as we beat Sunderland. He was capable of making great saves. Again, a very Moyes like signing in terms of what we learned about Moyes afterwards. Going after someone who had gone into Arsenal, I think he was going to be Siemens replacement. He never quite worked out a little bit like Simonson and Gerard. Not immediately after Neff, that one's still on the list. But coming in to fill a spot that we always had huge standards for and I imagine Arsenal did. He came in and I think it just never ever made anyone feel entirely comfortable. He was in England international as well that time we got him. But he just never made it his own. It didn't take long for Moyes to realise that, which is good. It certainly didn't. Full of promise but just never played out. Number seven on our list was one of Ronald Cuman's first signing for Everton, I think. Massive goalkeeper. He came in tremendous hair. Tremendous hair. Started off absolutely brilliantly as Everton created. By the end he was a bit of a hologram in the end. He just dropped off quickly. It is Martin Stechlenberg. He is number seven for us on our list. 19 games for Everton. Four clean sheets. I'd say his Everton display is peaked at the Etihad. Two penalty saves. One from Kevin De Bruin. Evan Drew won that day. Brilliant performance by Romelu'r Carchys. He showed a cracker. Stechlenberg had been unbelievable for him. Tremendous saves everywhere. And then there is scrappy equaliser there in true Everton fashion. I think this will be... Chelsea killed him away the five mil. I think this will be one where there will be a conservation one. Where people will go, nah, you're not having any there. Those are the goalies. I've got an interesting story about Martin Stechlenberg. I went to watch Holland vs France. I think it was one of the first qualifiers for the 2018 World Cup. In the now-Creef stadium in Amsterdam. I'm sitting there and I've got an evidence train and zip up top. I've been sitting there all proud Everton. What's Everton's goalie? Easing goal. Paul Poggedy won from about 30 yards. It literally just went under him. And I honestly felt like the whole stand turned around and looked at me. To look at you? Like it was my fault. It was your fault. I felt every eye on me. I felt every eye on you. Every eye was just like... It's on you that makes it your fault. And France won 1-0. I obviously went through the qualifiers and ended up winning. A few couple of years later winning the World Cup. And I feel like it all started because of me. I think it was... I think Stechlenby... You're going full-jancer today. You're claiming a victory. I think Stechlenby... Without you being involved. I thought too much pressure. Does it ever sound you? Evertonian water. It'll start booming me in a minute. Too much pressure. These only Dutch I can cope with. That one Evertonian up there. Can't deal with him. Couldn't handle it. Yeah. I mean what Martin Stechlenby came in. I think we all thought he was your backup goalie. Good backup goalie. Because Coomham was... I was in that thing where he'd just come in and Everton seemed to be going in a new direction far up my shirri. He'd just taken over. There was talk of a director of football. He was trying to get Monty. And Stechlenby just felt like, yeah, in for a million quid. Just a backup keeper, you know, whatever. We had Joel Robles still there at the time. He should have been the number one, yeah. And he was in the side straight away almost. Coomham just went for him. What do you think happened to him? Cos he did start the first couple of months. He was quite solid, wasn't he? I think he just, again, once again, it was just an issue with people taking shots on him. Probably became a little bit too much for him. Okay. He was always a backup keeper everywhere he'd been at. He followed him. I think he played 19 times. Roma, he'd been into. He just wasn't ever a good enough number one, but was a really good number two. And yet, left heaven and ended up, you know, back of that number one and playing home well for Holland again. So, that's a great career. As a backup. No, we did, yeah. So fair play to him. Yeah, fair play. Okay. Next goalkeeper was brought in again. Brought in and took Nadal Salpo's place. He did. Leed United away, I think. Made his day. I was there. I was there at that game. I was there. Put in a good solid performance and got in the side. He came in from Norway. We were Viking Stavanger, I think he come from, didn't he? And there was just talk.  But he got put in because I didn't need it. Havar Kendall felt we needed a change coming in. Did really well. And again, this is another one. He come in. Big goalkeeper. I really liked him. I really liked him. I really liked him. It just fell apart very, very quickly. It was weird, but it is. Thomas Mayra is number six for us. Seventy games for Everton. Twenty-one clean sheets. What did you make at times? I really liked him when he first came in. As I said, that was at his debut. And there was a lot of shock that he actually took. We bought him that week. But I don't think anyone thought he was taking Neff's place. I think it was a case of he was coming in. And again, he was seeing as the player was going to take over from Neff. And when he was named, it was a big shock. And Neff has come out and basically said afterwards that he was told by Howard. And that was the end of it. And that's all he wanted to be told. He was told we got a nil nil. We've been on a really big losing run, I think. Came in, got a nil nil. That Ellen Rowne done really well. Which was a tough place to go. And I think for me it was a case of for a while he was really, really good. And then the odd mistake started creeping in. I think one that stands out for me. Billy. Billy in the FA Cup quarterfinal. But again, Coventry. The big game at the end of the season. I think he was one in that. And the Villa game was huge. Tel Avivars quarterfinal of the FA Cup. He was a clangor in that. And I think he was another one. The weight of expectation just got too big. Taking over from Neff and our expectations of what a goalkeeper would be were huge as well. So he wilted under the pressure. I think he was obviously Joe Royla bro Paul Gerrard in. And obviously Joe Royla left the club and then Harvard coming. But then Harvard had a look at Gerrard. He did have issues with his knee as well. Of course, but did then go and get Thomas Marra as well. Neff had three goalies and Neff was pushed out Marra went in. I thought we've got our replacement for Neff. Cos we knew Neff was coming to the end of his time or everything. And I thought we have got this big. No we've seen goalie who's great and he loved it. I remember that Villa game at home. Cos Joe Max Mosco did it at the park end and it was a game. I think everyone was the favourites going into it. Obviously he'd be on the room, he'd be at home. And he made a couple of that. One was a header wasn't it which he should have saved. And he dropped it on the line. Even the other goal I think it was Benito Carbon. He scored for Villa. It was a shot that he pushed back out when he should have saved. And it was two mistakes where you just thought we hadn't seen him do that before and then he did. And then Coventry that the game you mentioned. Dion Dublin Zedau wasn't it. Slipped through his hands you know in the last minute. And I'm okay. Luckily it didn't matter but I might have never had a matter. And then I think Walter Smith was just like not sure. And yeah he was out for a good start. Number five for us was brought in as a backup goalkeeper. By Roberto Martinez. He was. I've put in a sensational display in an FA Cup final for Wigan. To win the FA Cup. I think he'd made 10 saves that day I think. Against Manchester City. It is Joel Robles. He came in 42 games for Everton. 17 clean sheets. And I thought I still look back at Joel and think you were treated a little bit harshly. And he was never. Don't get me wrong. I'm not sat here going. He was amazing because he wasn't amazing. But he was a good solid goalkeeper I thought. He had a couple of ropey moments as goalies. I thought in general he was always. I thought he was always alright for Everton. Yeah. He was a spell towards the end of Tim Howard's last season. Wasn't it where Joel got in and should have stayed in. I think Howard was out for three games. Wasn't he? Was he sent off or? He was out for three games. He was out. I think it was a suspension. I think it was. I think it was a suspension. Wasn't it for Stoker out and gone was it? I think it was. He gave the pen at anyway. He should have. He was in and he done really well. And it was like one of those sliding doors moments that everyone can see Howard was getting worse. And Joel took his chair. I think we got three clean sheets in a row. He played in the Derby in 3-0-0. It was one of them. He brought them back and that was basically the end. It just felt really harsh because everyone could see Howard was a problem. This lad had come in and he bided his time. He'd done his service to report out like that by Martinis. Martinis obviously felt Howard was a really important key figure. It just felt really unfair and that was the moment you sort of thought well that's the end of him at this football club. He's not really going to establish himself. Fans did like Joel. It wasn't the greatest goal in the world but as I said it saved his time. I think he was a really good goalkeeper and you've seen since leaving everything. Going to Spain did alright. He's come back to Leeds. Never would have never been like a long team goalkeeper. You'd always probably been thinking you won a little bit more. But you do wonder if he'd been brought or left in at that moment. Where has Evan Craig could have gone? It's mad back when he brought them back because he had had the three clean sheets on the run. He brought them all the back with Chelsea away and Howard dropped across in the 94th minute and Chelsea scored and we got beat one. Everyone was like why have you changed it? He was dead out and then he got back in under Cumin. Evan had a great second half to the season under Cumin. Evan had won nine out of ten home games at the end of the season and he went and bought the open picture. That's the thing wasn't it? The true times he probably should have gone on and gone this is mine. I'm number one. It didn't quite happen but I thought he was done well enough. I liked him. Good personality. He seemed a nice character. Did he go off to Athletic Omens Red? No. Did he come from Madrid? He went to Bethes. He went to Bethes. There you go. Joel Robles is number five for us. Number four. American goalkeeper. Bro from Manchester United. On loan. Love that Evan was a brilliant goalkeeper for Evan for a number of years. Probably should have gone the year before he went there. Because he was thinking about it at that time and he did a few offers. We stayed loyal for another year and then by the end of it he got a bit sad. It did because he was such a tremendous goalkeeper for us for a number of years. It is of course Tim Harvard. Secretary of defence of course. Of course. 354 games for Evan. 117 clean sheets. I mean that's one in three isn't it? He would have had 150 if Martin is a dream member to defend. But he was brilliant. He was coming from Manchester United like I said. David Moyes brought him in. And he was fantastic for us. He had the odd moment where he had gone. He went he should be doing better than that. But then he produced lots and lots of amazing saves for us. There was a goalkeeper that Evan were always in the top six seven. When he was our goalie. He was excellent. Brilliant in Martin as his first season for Evan as well. And just a really, really good goalkeeper for us. Just a really good guy. Good ambassador. Solid professional. Leader. Spoke really well. And was a big part of obviously what we were trying to do for those years. Another kind of Moyes signing who found them. Found a player who wasn't quite doing as well at the club he was in. And brought him to Evan. Straight away you could see he was an impressive guy. Was for many people the reason why they support Evan. For a lot of people will be the Evan and goalkeeper of the Premier League era. Because he was here for that long. He was a big part of what Moyes was doing as well. Felt like one of those key people within there.  And at the time that can damage your legacy. But I think the further you get away from it the less you look at those moments. But I think Evan really should have sold them around the 2014 World Cup. After he'd come back from that World Cup. I think Evan should have looked to have really cashed in on that. Because he wasn't that goalkeeper for us. We needed someone then at that time. And we didn't do it. I remember him saying that he wanted to retire from Evan. And America after the 2018 World Cup. And I think he got one year into after the 2014 World Cup. And everyone knew it was over. Even though we had those lofty ambitions. He just couldn't keep going in the Premier League. I think that should have been the summit. Because he did have, we had a couple of offers needed. And I think if he had gone. I understand the 2014. But I also understand him. He was that until the record. He was the most saved in the game when he played Belgium. So I understand him playing one more season at Evan. Because he still looked like a top top keeper. But at the end of that 2015 season. He did have a few offers. And I know he was really home on an iron. And maybe that would have been the summit for both parties. But he was a great goalkeeper for Evan. He was a really good solid goalkeeper. Wasn't great from distance. He was called out how far too many times from distance. Now he was wasn't he. You think about Drogbe. You think about the one he conceded at Wemphrey. Think about the one he conceded down at Portmouth. He wasn't particularly good from distance. But he was a really, really good goalkeeper. And as I said fantastic ambassador. So many people support Evan from America. Because of Tim Howard. And obviously listen. This is very subjective isn't it from us. You know we're just making personal opinions. You might have a different line up. But he's in our top four. The next goalkeeper we've chosen. There's been a little bit of back and forth on this. I have to say it's our top three of course. We've eventually, I think, Peds begrudgeonly settled on this. Looker o mi still doesn't look convinced. But I've pulled rank basically. Cos he's got the goalie top on it. I think he's here to be higher up. But it is a goalkeeper that Ronald Cewman signed. We brought him in very, very highly rated. Brought him in from Sunderland. He is still our number one all these years later. It is Jordan Pickford. Jordan Pickford has won 245 appearances for Evan. 66 clean sheets. He's been Evan captain at times. Being a very, very good signing from Sunderland. He's had his moments, another one. Over the last three years now, in general he's been really consistent for Evan. He's England's number one like at just seven. And there isn't a better English goalkeeper at the moment anyway. Forget about all the arguments from the fans. He's still England's best goalkeeper. And he's a big part of Evan at the moment. And he's been a really, really good signing for Evan. Yeah, obviously a good signing. We went out there and it was in that summer, wasn't it? When we spent all that money. We obviously put 30 million down for him. He's been number one ever since. A couple of moments where he's gone out of the side, but only for very short periods. Sometimes just for his own good. Obviously we all know that he's had the wobble after Anfield, which I think was a big setback to me mentally. He's confronted those moments. It took him a while. Carlo anti-Lotty really saw that. Yeah, I think so. And he went back to Anfield for the only time we've beaten him in 30-odd years. And put a lot of ghosts to bed. Remember to say from Jordan Enders in the first half. Second half was unbelievable. And a big wobblin salad in the second half. So he's a lot more rounded now. Still makes the odd mistake like any goalkeeper does. I think there was a while there where just so many soft ones were going past them. And he'd react silly. But I think he's turned out for them to be a really top goalkeeper, a big leader. Tremendous warcha. Tremendous professional. By the way as well. He's always switched on. He's always doing the work. And I think he's obviously certainly in the top three. I think a lot of people might have him in a different order.  Not a definitive list this by the way. No, it's just what we've got. Jordan Pickford's been a really good goalkeeper for everything. Hopefully that continues. He loves it doesn't he? He's a goalkeeper that is very firmly established at everything. He's happier at everything because he's England's goalie. He loves playing for Everton Football Club. Being happy to sign new contracts. Never agitated to get away. And I think he just enjoys it. Everton Football Club has been a great goalkeeper. And like Pedd just said, you're younger. You're 20s over everything. You probably have Jordan Pickford and the same. However there's your top two. It's just different from what you've seen. Number two for us. Again this was the flip between Jordan Pickford and this person. He was bought for £150,000 from Berry by Howard Kendall back in 1981. Pedd has got the goalkeeper top on. In my opinion the greatest goalkeeper ever to play the game. That I have seen. Unbelievable goalkeeper. Just amazing. One of the titles I've ever had in European Trophy FA Cup charity shields. It is of course the amazing Neville Southall. These are just his Premier League games. He played 600 odd games for Everton. These are just his Premier League appearances. 207 for Everton. 63 clean sheets. Amazing. The reason why I had him above Jordan Pickford was even though he was coming towards the end of his Everton career he still had a huge role to play in Everton staying up under Joe Royal. And of course we went to Wemleam on the FA Cup and he turned in. An unbelievable. There was a double save from Paul Scholes in that which is amazing. And he performed at such a high level for two or three seasons in the Premier League. That just beyond and above like what you would or above and beyond this direction. Amazing goalie. Only can see that one goal on winning the FA Cup in 1995. That was a penalty in the semi-final. These are like the lost years of Southall. You don't tend to always remember the Premier League years. And of course famously in the second year of the Premier League came out in Saturday post at half-time when Everton was 3-0 down in the opening game of the season against Leeds. He was a huge, huge figure. Very much still by the end but he had some huge performances. And was just Everton, wasn't he? Just part of the thing to maybe Everton's greatest ever player depending on how you look at it. And obviously everyone is aware of who Neville Southall is. For those who's the greatest ever goalkeeper. Not everyone sees it like that but they're wrong. They are wrong. And we're right. He's come from humble beginnings and just dominated the number one. The number one position of Everton for so many years. So many goalkeepers never had an opportunity. Never had a chance because of how great he was. And yeah, yeah, he was just brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.  Bobby Minns went and played for Sparsen and won the league with Blackburn. But he couldn't, he got into Everton when Neville was injured and couldn't get back in. Once Neville's fit, he was back in. That is, of course, in the 80s. He was unbelievable. You know, people have run through one-on-one. And probably with the exception of Ian Rush, you'd know that he'd save it. And he did save it many times for me in Rush as well. But he was just a savesy mate. I always say to you, Coventry City away in 1987 was probably the greatest ever goalkeeper in performance that I'd seen for just ridiculous saves. And he carried that on. And we had moments like that in the Premier League era. He was brilliant. And again, it is your age and things like that. But it's really difficult because, you know, other people will do this list differently and go, well, who's played the most games at the Premier League and that will be Jordan Pickford or Tim Howard. They will probably be people's top two. But Neville Southall, just because he did combine that. Some really strong performances in the Premier League with an FA Cup. And also, though, you'd look at it today and think to yourself, what would he have been like with... Cos he was such a hard worker, incredibly hard worker. To him, it was work. He was going to work. You just wonder if he had all of the benefits that plays have now in nutrition and knowing how to train. You don't know all those things. How many more years we would have got out of him. And how better he would have been because he would have been more agile. Yn fwy gyrdor fel e, you should get into a bell field at eight o'clock on the morning and do a training session.  That's how he'd be in the sand pit, smashing balls. There should be a sand pit next to a wall of a bell field and he'd be smashing a ball up the wall and diving it. But that's just off his own thing. Even modern goalkeeping techniques and things like that, it would be... It would have been even. Incredible, incredible fellow. Still an amazing fellow now. And number one, again, this would be controversial. And this is where to chat this, definitely, because why is he number one? Well, this is a goalkeeper that David Moyes brought in from Leeds United. A goalkeeper that should have signed for Evan eight years before Evan did actually sign him. He was at Godderson, got told to go to par campers on the Whittle and then got told to go and speak to Leeds United and then tell us what they said and then we'll sort it later because the fellow you've come to see is just on the phone trying to sort spud out. True story. He went to Leeds and Leeds made him feel like a king and he stayed there playing the Champions League semi-final. Everything for Leeds. He was amazing. It is Nigel Martin. He came in. He is our number one. He played 86 times for Everton. 32 clean sheets in those games. Everton's best ever Premier League finish. He was in goal for it. He finished fourth. He was brilliant and Moyes, we got him in, I think for 500 grand when it looked like he was coming to the end of his career Leeds at that Paul Robinson Martin come out into Everton. He was the closest thing that I'd seen to Neville Southall in Neville Southall's heyday. Pickford's been great, Howard's been great but to me this fella was another level to those two. There was just an assurance about him. He came on with that. Obviously Richard Wight got injured and went off and he had me in the club very long. It was just one of those moments where everything just changed and he never looked back. He was just brilliant. He was just... He wasn't no fuss about him. No fuss, ultra professional. You'd never let anything go past him where you'd go, how's that happened? But then you make saves where you go, how? How did he make that save? We drew Nill Nill at Ampfield and he made seven saves. There's two or three where you've gone. You've seen the matter and you've gone to goal. And he somehow hasn't gone in. You just said, how has that not gone in? He was just one in the derby when we beat Liverpool in the season we finished fourth, the Carsley derby. And he was one that went to the back post and I think it might have been Nill Mele. He's literally got an open goal because Nigel Martin's at the other post and somehow he's got from that post to that post to stop it going in. At the street end. There was about five minutes left when that happened. There the kind of saves that that season got us to where we were. He was unbelievable and people might look at it and go, how? But anyone who watched him knows he's number one. Just absolutely knows it because they watched a couple of seasons of pure perfection from a goalkeeper. Believe in his numbers there, it's almost one in two games. He played a few games with an ankle injury and he remember we drew one one with Chelsea at home and he had a fake up. In fact, the replay was the game that bit you right. It fell on the sign and the warm-up and then we had to put A and C in the ring goal. But in that home game he was injured but he played and we were winning one Nill and he made four or five brilliant saves and I think Lampard equalised with about 15 minutes left and took it back to the replay. But even in that game he was unbelievable. He was limping, making saves and he was just knackered for the replay so he couldn't play. He was just amazing and it was the ankle injury that stopped him wasn't it? He had two seasons, he would have gone on. He said himself, his body felt great apart with his ankle and he would have done another season. He was unbelievable and he was right. People might look and go, but then the numbers alone kind of tell you're almost one in two clean sheets. Everton weren't like Sam Allardyce or Sean Dyke. Like we're all back in the Fender and we try and knick Nill Nills. We were attacking and he was just absolutely phenomenal for us and brilliant, brilliant goalkeeper. The price and everything. I love Neff, I absolutely love Neff. We talked about Pickford, he's been great. We talked about Harvard, he was excellent. But for me this fella is, it is a clean number one. There's no doubt in my mind he's number one. Why for you would he be number one? Because he was perfect for two years. He was perfect. You couldn't fault him for anything. He made this kind of saves where you go, wow, how did he save that? Not saves where you go, well you expect a goalkeeper to save it. The kind of saves where you go, how did he make that? And he was making them all the time. What that means is your team can be braver on the pitch. It can be braver, it can go up and know that you've got this goalkeeper who's going to keep you in games when you need it. And it's what all the best teams have by the way. All the best teams have the best goalkeeper because it means they can be braver. It means that they can bank on the goalkeeper to make saves that they shouldn't be making. And for me that separates them from everybody else in the Premier League. Never did it before then. But this guy had two, three years where you were just like, we'll be fine. Nigel Martin is in goal. He's unbelievable. I agree, I agree. Absolutely superb. That's our, that's, we've ranked the top 10 in our opinion goalkeepers in that order. Let us know what you think you agree with. I'm sure there'll be lots of people who disagree. That's part of it. That's all part of it. It's just an opinion-based thing. But Nigel Martin is the best goalkeeper we have seen play for Everton in the Premier League era. We're sticking to it. It's our opinion, we're sticking to it. Let us know in the comments section below. Give the video a thumbs up. Subscribe if you haven't. Bye later.


So, anyone who would like to start off with any questions to us? Yes, sir. My question is for Rupa, Daniela Ryan from the Manson Unit. Rupa, is there two questions really? One, what was the penicillin sensitivity in keftroxen for the strep pneumoniae? And the second thing is that is the sensitivity testing an automated testing machine or is it actually just done by disk diffusion with plates on a desktop? So, disk diffusion? Is it one of the things we put in a culture and then you get a readout of sensitivities or is it a much more manual system? It's manual, so it's a disk diffusion. And for... So 100% sensitivity to seftriaxone and I didn't include it here because it wasn't part of our routine analysis. We're still working on it for penicillin MICs. So, more to come. And to differentiate bloodstream and CSF. I think you've actually got something online, have we? Yeah, we have one question from online, from a nursing colleague, Steven Flanagan for Josie Gilday, to say what practical steps should MSF take in order to increase the quality of nursing care in their projects? Okay, well I think steps are actually already being taken, so now every MSF section actually has an individual nursing advisor. And I think one of the struggles really with the practical steps to take is that they're quite a lot of them. But first it would be that nurses really in the field should just be nurses. Now I loved being in the field and being the pharmacist and in charge of the kitchen and the nutritional kitchen and I thought, wow, this is a great challenge. Woohoo! And you know, I'm not just nursing. But then it made me realise that I was starting to neglect my nursing role and I don't know if you would have noticed but on that theoretical framework I developed I missed out meeting the needs, the basic needs of the patients because I'm so used to having the caretakers and that really shocked me and so I think that's a really practical thing we need to look at what is the role of a nurse and what isn't. Because so many times we end up running the pharmacy and other things like that. I think one of the other important things as a nurse that I'm talking is you're very much in the field helping people to help themselves. So as a nurse if you are going in there but you're not just doing the individual nursing care of the patient, you're training the caretaker to do the work. So it's helping them to help themselves so important. Yeah. Hi, this is another message for Josie as a NHS nurse at the DTN. I just wanted to ask if an overly systematic approach do you think potentially takes away from a holistic nursing care expert? Yeah, I think it's really difficult to find that balance but what I really think we need to look at is currently there are limitations to our organisation and systematic structures and in this case in the study I found that nurses were really task orientated and really only around the administration of medication but what had happened was they were also mini-pharmacists so they were counting the drugs in the morning they were then making an order for them to go into the pharmacy to collect them and actually so this system had narrowed their view of nursing care and prevented them really from having that holistic view. So it's definitely difficult to find that balance but I think it's something in MSF we need to explore more and I think the starting point is really let's base our care around meeting the needs of the patient and work out from there to create our systems. Thank you very much. Lady in red at the back. I hope the microphone works as time. Hope it works now. Marta again infected this is Doctor this question is for Charles thank you very much for your talk I was wondering which potential predictors dropped of your model. Did you look at splint size or malnutrition? Thank you. Yes indeed we looked at other predictors and the splint size was dropped malnutrition was dropped weakness was dropped and I think that was it age young age as well but nevertheless I also should say that most of the predictors we had in this call are some of the predictors we commonly collect in settings where we work. Hi I'm just a medical microbiologist in the NHS. Question for Rupa thank you very much for your presentation very nice. Just a couple of questions I wanted to ask you. It's very interesting you were mentioning that such a high rate of SPL positive and not actually you haven't found any MRSA positive bacteria. Is he common finding as well in adults or it's just something that you have noticed in kids or you might find some bacteria. And the other thing is that you were saying that you were trying to review the first line choice for antibiotics moving from cataracts and I mean have you thought about something with regards to the sensitivity most of the strains of enterobacteriasis were fully sensitive to the case but you're thinking about revising your choice. Thanks. Thank you. So in response to the first question about rates of MRSA and ESBL is it a common finding? I guess this speaks to a bigger issue about documentation of rates of antibiotic resistance. So the short answer is I don't know. I think nobody knows because there is such a poor city of good quality data particularly I mean I think this is problem across much of resource poor settings but certainly in places where MSF works I mean there is some data coming out of West Africa Ghana reporting that 70% of their Klebsiella isolates were ESBL producing. I didn't look it up for Staph aureus I didn't look it up for Staph aureus I can and there was a second part of that question comparing adults to kids so we only focus on the pediatric in this project so I have no information whatsoever about adults in the population and with regards to seph triaxone as a first line yeah I think we are not yet in a position to change seph triaxone out of our first line I think where there is a role in considering a second antibiotic as you say like potentially gentamicin or amicacin just a broadened spectrum I would try to reserve that though for those patients that have identified bloodstream infections with a gram negative or Klebsiella and or E. coli in particular thank you very much ladies black and white thanks very much we will continue in with the UK department of health and I just wanted to follow up on the antibiotic resistance issue at the bigger picture level where you are just going firstly to ask is there a place where you can log that data at that kind of global or national level maybe with WHO or some kind of database and secondly just to note that in the UK department for health there is a planning stage going up capacity specifically around antibacterial resistance so AMR but only for the kind of bacteria you are talking about so it would be great actually to follow up later and to make sure that we can join that up into the planning phases thanks so in response to the first question I think there are several initiatives to try to improve surveillance of antibiotic resistance globally the WHO led glass initiative is meant to be a world wide surveillance system and in theory that is great in reality there are still many deficits most of sub-Saharan Africa remains a gaping hole in terms of microbiology data likewise the Middle East so I think there is increasing enthusiasm and desire to have these structures be more robust and actually do the job of surveillance so hopefully that will and MSF is actively participating in those discussions hopefully that will become more robust with time the other caveat that I would add is that surveillance data is really difficult to use to inform guidelines for sepsis so that's a slightly annoying nuance but I'd be happy with better surveillance data and yes building life capacity I mean for me you can't talk about antibiotic resistance without having access to microbiology I mean we can wait and we are waiting for adapted rapid tests for the field but in the meantime we're building labs and we are trying to partner with external laboratories that can ensure some quality so that's been our approach in OCP my question is to Marwa I think that the focus on male sexual violence is quite welcome but I just wanted to ask whether you looked at knowing also that with MSF projects we recognised that even for female sexual violence we are not actually doing well enough did you look at whether what you were concluding on is it a relative situation as in it's as bad in males as it is in women based on what potential is happening out there and kind of the second part to that is if you make adjustments as in your recommendation is there a risk that then the women women's access is reduced so this is a study it's still new it's still ongoing so we are still adjusting for a lot of factors but right now we are really considering the main factor which is the access of male victim to care according to the setup so as I have explained earlier that some of the setups only offer MCH access from the field that those are areas of active conflict so we are expecting a higher percentage of males presenting to our services compared to females and this was actually not a true scenario because we only found like 3% out of the whole victims that we are receiving and again still we are adjusting for a lot of factors while the study is still ongoing but yeah it's still we are not capturing and the reporting is affecting both gender males and females Javed from MSF Charles I am really excited by your presentation can I extract with Kieran's permission promise for you to come back next year and give us an update on implementing that tool and what you find and secondly Marwa the question was half sort of covered actually a little bit by this last question can you give us an idea of sort of the general setting is the setting where you think we might be able to it was the easier point of entry for male victims of sexual violence do you get an idea of or do you have an idea of what question we can ask for you know as a clinician in those settings having been there in these projects is there an opener that we can just use you know we are famously taught with suicide it doesn't you know ask are you feeling suicidal it doesn't bring up those ideas in the person you should feel safe that you can ask that is there such a question that we can extract you know to help this person volunteer that they've suffered that abuse okay so I haven't been in all the context but I can speak from some of them so and I can relate to one of the patient's story that he accessed one of the services for a totally different reason and it was actually one of our mental health services and we didn't know that he is an SV victim and he was not improving and he refused to like talk to a lot of the people providing care and when like I remember after maybe four to five consultations of mental health consultation he finally declared that he was an SV victim and that was the primary reason behind his mental illness so I know that it's a very there is no like ideal question to ask the patient to encourage him while he was an SV even though but what we can offer is that we can develop more or less sensitive tools and offer more options or more opportunities for a male victim to declare SV while receiving different kinds of care through MSF. This is a question for Marwa as well following up on the question. What were the main reasons for consultation of the men accessing these services? Do you have an idea of that? Okay so it's according to the setup so for like a vertical SV project it's clear from the start he is an SV victim but if we spoke about like a general care facility which is this tuition here he can access for like mental health consultation or any other kind of violence like to say he's a victim of tuition but it's not necessarily an SV and he can declare SV later on. Okay so he can access our service and he said like he's one of the victims of tuition or he's suffering from certain mental health disorders like PTSD or just general anxiety because the general care setup that we classified here in the project is basically clinics that has been set for mental health disorders or any kind of violence not necessarily sexual violence and we offer several opportunities for disclosure while the patient is receiving our care. Hi my name is Nora from MSF Germany I've got a question for Marwa as well so I'm wondering about the entry points. Is there a way to tell if people are the victims of sexual violence regardless of the gender are using tend to use the general care facilities more than the specific SV facilities? Sorry I missed that point. So is there a way to tell whether there are more victims of sexual violence accessing the general care facilities or the SV specific facilities and if so there's a difference between is there then a difference in gender and if so how do you prioritize? Yes so as I've discussed earlier this one is an limitation because unfortunately we don't have the three kinds of setup in a single context or in a single country because like one setup is in one country and the other in the other country and we really are trying to adjust for contextual factors but from what we have seen that like let's say MCH or SV clinics are based in areas with a very high or active conflicts and we know from the ground and from our HP work that people there are experiencing sexual violence so we are expecting like more people to attend our services. Hi my name's Kobeng and I'm from a charity let's go forward and we work on FGM, my questions from Marua and I'm interested to know how this study could be used to develop programmes with male victims of SV and if it's used alongside a programme that engages the community to break down any stigma attached to men who have gone through SV or even females as well. Thank you for this because this is actually under discussion right now because we are trying to implement qualitative components into the study and to reach people in community and to know actually the perception of people living in those communities and actually we are also investigating the integration between SV as an incident and let's say psychological illness so based on the results and we hopefully want to use this on operational level to implement it to improve the access more so far in this study we have like two out of the eight projects only offering these kind of setups that offers a victim to declare SV at several points and it's relatively huge numbers so we are currently undergoing under so many studies to investigate whether like how we could develop the programme more to improve the services and secure for the patients. Last question one last one Katie from MSF I'm struggling to really formulate this question actually so I'll try and keep it as brief as possible I'm curious MSF isn't regularly engaging patients or caretakers or staff in analysing or understanding whether our quality of care of the services that we're providing is good and my question I guess is mostly for Josie did you experience any resistance within the project from the staff about this study that you did and if you did can you talk a little bit about that and secondly do you have any ideas of if you did have some resistance how we move MSF forward in sort of trying to move beyond the test and treat relationship I actually was expecting some resistance with the project but actually I had very little from nurses and caretakers and the nurses especially were very eager to come forward and have their voices heard and so actually a few of them turned up with a list and I was a bit like oh I hadn't quite thought about this happening and actually the patients and the caretakers every morning I would go in and reintroduce myself and explain what I was doing and they were also very eager to explain to them what was important and what was really interesting was they also wanted to explain the importance of the nurses and the nursing care and how important it was to them so I received very little resistance and I think that's possibly maybe to do with the setting and the way people are in Sierra Leone happy to talk to you but I think if I did receive resistance then yes you've lost a very important channel of knowing how to improve your quality care because it was really only through understanding what the nurses and caretakers defined quality medical care as that we were able to see the gaps that were occurring so I'm not quite sure how you would deal with it if there was yeah those problems very short provoked presentations thank you Charles Rupert, Marva and Josie and those stimulation discussions so thank you very much


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to inquire to the organization to see if that's going to be something they do within their normal policy. We may well have debit balances in the, in the accounts, payable accounts, and then we're just going to reclassify them from debit, you know, negative balances of a liability to asset balances. And then we have separate short-term and long-term payables. We want to make sure that we're separating out the short-term and the long-term payables. Make sure that different types of payables are properly classified. So we have different types of classifications of payables. We want to make sure that they are in those proper classifications. Next, we're going to take a look at the assertion of presentation. There are two disclosure items of primary importance for accounts payable and accrued expenses with regards to presentation. Auditor needs to make sure that all related party purchase transactions have been identified. So remember, whenever we have this related party transactions, we could think of a related party such as a subsidiary or something like that. Then we have a, we have issues because we're not, we're concerned that there's not an arms length transaction. We don't have market forces to help us determine that the transaction is at basically market prices. Therefore, we want to identify those for sure and look into those types of transactions. If material, the related party purchase transactions should be disclosed. So if the related party purchase transactions are material component, we want to disclose those because again, that relationship kind of makes those transactions a bit suspect in terms of whether they're market validity of those types of transactions. The other primary concern is purchase commitments. When the entity has entered into a formal long-term purchase contracts, proper disclosure of the terms of the contract should be provided as a footnote. So when we have long-term basically contracts, we want to make sure that we're clear on what the commitment is in the contract. If we have a very complex contract and we're dealing with something that's going to be material, that's a problem. We want to know exactly where we stand in terms of the long-term obligations of a contract. Now we're going to take a look at accounts payable confirmations. Now when you think of confirmations, you're thinking about a third party verification and normally, if you hear confirmation, the first thing that pops into your mind is probably accounts receivable confirmations. That's where we are most likely to do confirmations. That and the bank, you know, we'll send confirmations to the bank. We'll send confirmations to accounts receivable most of the time. Some of the customers to confirm the balances owed to the entity by customers accounts payable. We can do the same thing, but it's usually not as necessary a process. So we're almost definitely going to do it for the cash, some type of confirmation. We're probably going to do it for accounts payable at least to some degree, depending on the entity we're doing. And then accounts payable, we may do it, but it's a lesser degree of likelihood that we'll do confirmations, meaning we're going to send confirmations out basically to the vendors now that owe the company. I mean that the company owes money to the company that we are auditing owes money to the vendors. So they're going to be used less often than accounts receivable confirmations, partially because auditor is able to examine externally created source documents related to accounts payable. So notice an accounts payable, we have other type of source documents that are not generated from inside the organization as opposed to accounts payable. When we're looking at the things that generated the accounts payable, the source documents are generated by the company. So that's going to be less reliable type of information. If we just look at the invoice, that's going to be less reliable information with regards to accounts payable, we're looking at bills and things that are going to be given from outside of the organization. Therefore, they are more reliable and possibly then we can rely less on things like confirmation. When confirmations are used, they are usually positive in our generally blank confirmations. In other words, notice what we're not doing here. We're not saying, we're not saying, hey, here is the balance and you tell us basically yes or no on it or we're not even saying, here's the balance and don't send it back if you don't agree with it, which would be a negative confirmation. We're having a positive confirmation saying, hey, we would like you to send it back either way and they don't really have the option because we're going to send it blank, meaning we're not going to say, here's the balance and do you agree with it or not? We're going to say, we feel that this company that we are auditing owes you this much money as of this date or owes you money as of this date. Would you confirm the balance? We're not going to give the balance. We're going to give it blank. They're going to show us the balance as of that date. Now notice that even a lot of times when we think about these confirmations from the accounts receivable side of things, notice the person that receives it, if you're talking about receivable confirmations, the person that receives it is owing the company that we're confirming the money. And therefore, they have less incentive to be cooperative there. They might see the thing and not want to deal with it or say that I don't owe the company money at this point in time. However, if you're dealing with a vendor, typically that means that the company that we are auditing owes them money. So if we ask them, do we owe you money, they're more likely to know exactly what that is and maybe have incentive to look it up and check it out and send it back to us. So they're more, they might be more likely and more incentivized to actually to have a higher rate of return of the confirmations. In other words, to accounts payable people because they're the people that the company that we're auditing owe money to and we're asking them how much money the company that we are auditing owe them. And so they might be more likely to take it back. Now also remember all the rules with the confirmations are pretty much, you know, the same here. We, the auditor are doing the confirmation. We're not going to do it on the company letterhead. We're doing it outside of the company. We're going to send them directly to the vendors. And then the vendors going to send them directly back to us, the audit firm, not to the company. So we're keeping the company out of it. The vendor is asked to provide the balance owed by the entity. So then we have the audit findings identified misstatements with will be aggregated. So we're going to take the misstatements, we're going to aggregate them. We're going to have the projected misstatement is then compared to the tolerable misstatement. So the projected misstatement that we get from our findings, we compared to the tolerable misstatement, the level of misstatement that we accept that would be acceptable, that we're going to basically accept. If it's, and then if the projected misstatement is less than the tolerable misstatement, the auditor has evidence that the account is fairly presented. So then we're going to say, okay, if it's less fairly presented, however, if the projected misstatement is greater than the tolerable misstatement, the auditor will conclude that the account is not fairly presented. So if it's greater than the tolerable misstatement, then of course we'd have to conclude it's not fairly stated.


Welcome back to the tea of the day today. I have one called turmeric chai from totem teas and it has Cassia bark ginger root turmeric root, of course Licorice root to orange peel and clove in it. Let's see what we got. Hmm. Okay Now if you remember back when I did The two turmeric tea two merc to Merrick to Merrick to Merrick to Merrick Now if you remember back when I did the tumeric tea just by itself I found it rather flat and like it needed some friends and this Definitely does help because the tumeric is still very light and it isn't a very punchy flavor It definitely has to be with other things to make it really Have any effect because it is so light. I can definitely taste it in there But it is helped by having the other bits in there as well Yeah, I would say with this one That it needs a little bit of honey as far as chai's go. It's not very sharp, which is nice I am not a fan of a sharp chai But overall this is what this one's just fine the way it is as far as the blend is concerned I like definitely like the blend But let's talk a little bit about Cassia bark otherwise known as cinnamon bark may have heard of that one But anyways cinnamon bark is good as an anti-inflammatory It's good for your blood sugar and it's mostly good supposed to help regulate insulin levels and also supposed to help with diabetes That's supposed to be good for various new urge neuro neuro deep I'll get it neuro degenerative diseases like Alzheimer's and such it's supposed to be good with helping with bacterial and fungal infections It's also a good anti-inflammatory. It's supposed to help with things like gas Flatulence and such and it's also supposed to be good for muscle spasms. So Cassia bark Or cinnamon bark very very good stuff for you Lots of different uses It's not an anti histamine. It's actually kind of the opposite. It's a histamine So if you are very sensitive to things like that, it's might be something need to watch out for But otherwise, it's generally quite healthy for you and doesn't have any things that you run into problems with as far as it's concerned. So Cassia bark yay this tea. Yay I guess that brings us to the end of our program for today. Y'all have a good tea day


Live from San Diego, California, it's theCUBE. Covering Cisco Live US 2019. Brought to you by Cisco and its ecosystem partners. Welcome back to theCUBE, day two of our coverage of Cisco Live, we are live also from San Diego. I'm Lisa Martin, Stu Miniman is my co-host and one of our alumni is back with us, Eric Herzog, the CMO of IBM Storage. Great, thank you for having us. Welcome back. So, lots of buzz, we're in the DevNet zone. This has been, I hear one of the busiest expos at Cisco Live this year. The community is, I'm hearing, approaching 600,000 strong. Yesterday we were talking a lot about the big waves of innovation, one of them being GPUs everywhere, AI, but also some of the challenges with respect to data that companies are generally getting less than 1% of that data to really extract insights from it. So let's talk about what IBM is doing with respect to AI and big data and really helping customers really tune that dial up on getting more value out of what they have. Well, so we're doing a lot in that space. First of all, when you're running AI in particular, if you're really going to do something like run robotic factory, you better make sure the storage doesn't fail. But that's sort of the checkbox item, just the way a car always has a spare tire. So the real differentiator from a storage perspective is what do you need to help the data prep? What do you help to do to make sure that the data is always in the right kind of pipeline? For example, just like a human always learns, right, smart humans always learn. So you learn certain things when you're seven or eight. They might have changed by the time you're in college. By the time you have your first kid, they might be different again. And by the time you're getting ready to retire, but it could be still the same topic and the data is recycling and then you learn new things about that topic. So in the case of a data workload, what you need to do is make sure you have data prep along the entire pipeline. And that's what we've done with a whole bunch of software that we offer for the big data and AI workloads and applications. All right, so Eric, we've talked with you many times about what's happening in kind of a multi-cloud world. It feels like IBM and Cisco are on similar parallel paths as to the move from traditionally we think about boxes and from a Cisco standpoint, it's ports and more and more it's about the software. So talk a little bit about that software defined world and where IBM and Cisco are going together along that journey. So one of the things that we've done from a storage division in perspective, we do what we call the VersaStack.  So we can use that to transparently move block data out to a cloud, any cloud, IBM cloud, Amazon, Azure, we can move it out to a block store or to an object store. Now obviously move out to an object store that can help you can prevent ransomware and malware. And it's all automated. We've done the same thing with scale out file where we just see cloud is just a tier and we've done the same thing with object storage. So the big thing we see from a hybrid multi-cloud perspective at the IBM storage division is everything needs to be able to have the data easily portable, easily migratable and easily replicable and constantly moving back and forth, not just going out to the cloud and staying there. So we've done that from our software defined portfolio, but we've also done it with our Martin Data Protection portfolio, Spectrum Protect, which is one of the most award winning products in the backup space. We've got over 400 small medium cloud providers where their backup as a service offering is based on Spectrum Protect. So if they go to Wikibon and Wikibon says we want to back up to the cloud and you're using tech trade or cloud temple or I virtualize all those cloud providers, the backup as a service they sell you is based on IBM Spectrum Protect. So for us cloud is just another tier, just like hard drives and flash and tape, cloud is just the new tier. So in this pivot towards software defined everything with say VersaStack for example, give us one of your favorite customer success stories that really highlights the value of what IBM and your partnerships deliver. Sure, so one of them would be tech trade. So tech trade is one of our public references. They only do PCI data. So Wikibon couldn't be a customer, IBM can't be a customer, theCUBE can't be a customer, Cisco can't be because we don't specialize as you know in financial centric data. So they back up about, they do about two million backups a day, all of financial data across Europe and into North America. And they've got a VersaStack that happens to run Spectrum Protect on it. It's all flash so they're not worried about performance and then they back up to giant hard drive farms that they've also bought from IBM. But the real thing on the VersaStack is having that very fast edge and then having the software that allows them to a control the storage side but then run Spectrum Protect to do backup. So if you were a bank, if theCUBE was a bank, then you guys could use tech trade and they use a VersaStack for backing up data as a service. That's a perfect example of what we've done with the VersaStack solution in this case in a hybrid cloud scenario. What are some of the business impacts that they have achieved so far? Like are they finding new revenue streams? Are they unlocking more valuable data to be more competitive? Well so what they do is obviously in the PCI world they're very centric, you can't lose anything for the financial data. So for them it's all about the security of the data, making sure the data gets there, the data's encrypted in flight. They know that the customers can do a lot of different things because Spectrum Tech is very much a big enterprise package that's very strong in the global fortune 2000. So they like it for that. Now we've had some other customers and there the value has been things like the return on investment. For example, the second largest dating site on the planet uses VersaStack and they got a four month return on investment. They bought it and in four months they paid for themselves, they bought like four or five more. We had another customer who saved, and this is also a cloud service provider by the way. So they saved the equivalent of five full-time employees that were writing custom code and managing stuff and they used Spectrum Protect also for back, but in this case you and I could use them because they're not specialists like tech traders and they'll back up anybody's data and they saved five full-time equivalents so they've now redeployed those full-time employees to do something else. So those are just examples from three different companies of ways that they've saved money and been really driven of business value, not just about the data and yeah, the data's fast, but really if you're a storage guy, been doing as long as I have, the data is always fast and it just gets faster every generation. Okay, it's fast, right? And in this case it's really about business value, about the value of the data, not about the storage. All right, Eric, you mentioned security. Of course, security is one of those topics that's hitting all lots of environments here at Cisco, but bring us inside, especially from a storage vision, modern data protection and how that's getting involved in the security discussion. Sure, so what we've done across the portfolio, even in primary storage, is made sure that we've done all sorts of things that help you against a ransomware malware attack, keep the data encrypted. I think the key point actually, I think SiliconANGLE wrote about this, is something like 98% of all enterprise are getting it broken into anyway. So it's great that you've got security software on the edge, whether that be IBM or RSA or BlueCode or Checkpoint, or who cares who you buy the software from, but when they're in, they're stealing. And sometimes some accounts have told us they can track them down in a day, but if you're a giant global Fortune 500 with data centers, it may take you like a week. So it can be stealing stuff right and left. So we've done everything from, we have right once technology, right? So it's immutable data, you can't change it. We've got encryption, so if they steal it, guess what, they can't use it. But the other thing we've done is real protection against ransomware and malware.  And I'm going to steal every video I've ever created and hold it for ransom. So the way I would do that is I look at your snapshots, your replicas, and your backups first. So what do we do? We can actually snapshot a replica out to an object store and ransomware and malware, at least today, doesn't attack object storage. So that way, when I'm talking to you or Stu and said, I want $10 million, you start laughing, I go, wow, we replicate every night, okay, we lose one day of data, he can't get up to $10 million. So that's ransomware or malware protection. We've also built that into Spectrum Protect because what happens is when you're starting to, if you will, look at that data to get it wrapped up in the ransomware or malware, you have a whole bunch of extra activity around the backup data sets, so we send an alert.  Why is all this activity going on the backup set? Because the backup's not scheduled, let's say, for tonight. And we would send you a note now at two o'clock that there's all kinds of activity and you would go, what is going on and you'd check it out. So we can help with ransomware and malware, encryption on primary data. So we've really integrated across the portfolio, whether it be primary storage or secondary storage. And by the way, almost nobody thinks about storage. They always say, whose securities package should I buy? And they never say, okay, I'm going to buy that, but I might buy some security for the storage to no one ever talks like that, which is why we're bringing it up. And we actually launched a sales play for the field all around storage for cyber resiliency. And how's that going, if you're saying it? It's actually gone incredibly well. We started with a product called Safeguard Copy on the mainframe, and we actually got, in the first four months, almost $60 million of pipeline in the first four months of the product shipping. And now we've got it all over the whole portfolio. So we tried it just when we first got started, and now we're now talking about the ransomware and malware stuff, which by the way, we've had for three years, but we never were emphasizing it to the end users. Never saying, by the way, has it happened? Are you worried about it? Well, guess what? If you're backing up a spectrum tech, we'll warn you. Why don't you go out to tape an air gap? Or why don't you go out to the cloud and we can do essentially a cloud air gap to Object Store? And we weren't really talking like that until really, we started doing it in Q4 and then really expand it in Q1. So it's been very, very successful. The end users love it. Our business partners who sell the end users, they're loving it. And by the way, no one else is really talking about it. It's all about the security software company. So we're going beyond that. Yeah, so Eric, you talked about some of the products when, with Cisco and IBM working together. I wonder if you can up level a little bit.  Chuck Robbins now four years into his tenure as CEO. Wall Street's doing well with the stock on there. Finances look well. You know, IBM and Cisco, two of the bellwethers in tech out there. How's Cisco doing? When you talk to your customers, what are they liking about Cisco? What do they want to see more from Cisco? Are they aware of the transformation that Cisco's going through with just? Well, I think there's a couple things. First of all, IBM and Cisco have a mutual relationship that spans billions of dollars. Whether that be, for example, as they publicly have disclosed, IBM is the biggest customer for WebEx on the planet. And they talked about that, okay? There's products that we sell to them that they're one of our biggest customers in the world as well. But then beyond that, whether it's common end users or common channel partners, we make sure that we deliver the right solutions together. So I think the feedback I get from both the end users and the partners at Cisco's back, right when Chuck came in, oh, what's going on with Cisco? They're still big, but the big sometimes fall over big, right? Like in, you know, the beanstalk. The giant falls over, right? So that's what I think people were thinking four years ago. I don't think people are thinking that now. From our perspective, we've always kept working tightly with them between our relationship with them as a customer and us as their customer. But more importantly, it's really the common customers we have in the common channel partners. And we've never wavered for that support from a Cisco perspective. But just sort of off the cuff when people make a comment, it's like, hey, those Cisco guys are back. And four years ago people were saying, what do you think about Cisco? You know, and my wife works at Cisco and my ex-wife works at Cisco. So, you know, it's a little easier for them to ask me that because I'm a Cisco shareholder too. So, but now you don't hear that question. It's like Cisco's got their act together. They're doing all the right stuff. So that's very good for me personally with my stock, but it's also good just for the industry.  And the valley's little with that deck. All compact, they're all gone, right? They're not the only guys that are gone. So, you know, Cisco's not going to go the way of other big companies have. They've made the transition and are transferring to what the end users really need. And I think the DevNet community growth is a great art. You know, it speaks to the pivot that Cisco's making. DevNet has been in large part an accelerator of Cisco's transition from network appliance provider to more of a software services provider, but that community symbiosis with their end user customers, with their partners and with the developer community is really a driving force here. And I think just being in this DevNet zone and how big it is is a great example of how they're leveraging that those other feedback channels to not just persist, but be successful. So here we are, their Q3 2019 results were really strong. We're at the cross, all three business segments. We're in the middle of their fourth quarter. So for Cisco's FY 2020, what are some of the big bets that you can share with us that IBM and Cisco will be working on? Well, the one we've done together has been one on security. So we have joint security products that we've done. We have the joint product on the system side with the versus stack. We've done joint products with them also in the cloud solution area, both if you think about hybrid cloud, but also in private cloud. So IBM cloud private, for example, is available on their HCI box, right? So their hyper-converged infrastructure solution includes an option for IBM cloud private. So IBM has made many bets with them in the security space and the cloud space. Also, by the way, one of the biggest providers of service on Cisco solutions is actually IBM. So our services divisions do tons of business with Cisco without servicing the physical gear or servicing the software. And we've been doing that for years. So whether it be service, whether it be cloud, whether it be infrastructure, IBM is doing joint solutions across the board with the Cisco community. Going to ask you one last question, Eric. You've been in this industry a long time.  What keeps you excited about storage? Storage always change. Storage is not boring. Storage is boring for the uneducated. It is the most exciting thing. It changes all the time. I remember one of the good things about IBM was not like just an array company where we only don't do backup software. We've got high-end storage arrays. We still do tape. We're by far the dominant player and we're having a huge resurgence there with hyperscalers and cloud providers. We're going crazy with tape because for them, they're all about saving money, right? For backup and archive and we're critical to that. We are the number two storage software company in the world. All of our software works off of our gear. Some of the other guys that sell lots of software, yeah, they sell lots, but it only works on their products. Our software works with all of our competitors products. So that makes everything exciting. And I've done this now for 35 years. So I've seen hard drives that were the size of a dishwasher to now flash that fits into your phone, right? Or my MacBook, I've got five terabytes of flash. So, you know, to me, that's all exciting. And the software is where it really matters. And you know, we've gone from bare metal to virtualization, now to containers and cloud. So there's always new stuff going on, but I really think part of the problem with storage is everybody takes it for granted and doesn't realize if your storage doesn't work, isn't performant, isn't reliable, and isn't available. Basically your entire infrastructure caves in.  The storage doesn't work. You're shutting down your company until that storage is back up and running again. So it is the critical foundation for every application workload and use case in any company, big, medium, or small. And it always, always evolving. So to me, it's very excited, although some people think storage is boring. I'd say networking is boring. That to me is boring. Storage is exciting. Don't say that too loud here. That's true. Well Eric, it's been a pleasure to have you back on theCUBE once again. We very much appreciate your time. Great, well thank you for having us. Our pleasure. Of course Stu Miniman, I'm Lisa Martin. You're watching theCUBE Live from Cisco Live in San Diego.


Hello, this is Roger Burley for CTN Member Highlights and the non-profit member organization is Oceanside Conservation Trust of Casco Bay and we are holding our annual meeting here in July on Clefion on a property we call a meadow, which is going through the process of receiving a conservation easement so it is protected and will be even more protected. And now I would like to have a few words from Chris McDuffie, Chris is the Vice President of Oceanside Conservation Trust of Casco Bay and a very long time board member. And so Chris, what are your expectations and thoughts about being here in the meadow today? It's always a great pleasure to be on Clefion because it is a magnificent island. I see it every day from our cottage on Long Island and it's my most wonderful view. But I'm particularly proud of this organization and the good work it does to protect properties for our future generations. That's what I care about and what wonderful properties we have protected all around the Bay and this new property I'm particularly excited about. It will be preserved forever when the conservation easement goes into effect and our children and grandchildren and generations beyond that will have access to this property. And you will see I'm sure what a beautiful property it is right on the shoreline with a beach and vistas that go all the way to Harpswell. So Chris, coming with this property is an exceptional item, 1100 feet of beach. There's hardly any beach in Maine and we've got over a thousand feet of it right here. So that's a great attraction for the community here both on Clefion and from off island. So tell us a little bit about conservation easements and how these people can feel comfortable coming to this beach. The conservation easement will protect this land from development in the future. There will be no high rise condominiums on this property to be seen from land or sea so that and that really is a permanent protection. So this will be the way it is now for the foreseeable future endlessly and isn't that a powerful thing to do. And the public is guaranteed the right to visit if they mind their manners, right? And don't abuse the property and its respectful use is welcome and these opportunities for using this kind of property are being progressively closed off from the public and for future generations and this will never be. So aren't we fortunate? There will be no trespassing sign on this property and on this beach. That's right. The public will be welcome. Thank you very much Chris. And now I have the pleasure of standing with Ted Reiner whose family has owned this property, the Meadow here on Cliff Island for a very, very long time. And Ted, tell us your feelings about coming here today and talking about this land which has been I think very close to your heart for your whole life. So talk about it a little bit. Yes, that's very true. Well, Roger, this is to me a red letter day and I'm very happy to be here. It's kind of a dedication of the property to a new purpose. Over the years I've been the steward for this property and now the whole island can be a steward for this property. I've always thought it's important that it be preserved and so easily properties become developed and then the views change, the land becomes private and the history of this property is that it's been used for generations for the swimming beach and picnics. And I'm very happy that today this will be preserved as a natural area. The animals, the birds will be the same in generations to come and people will enjoy it. The whole island will get to enjoy it. So to me this is an important day and I feel honored to be here. It will be a rededication to preserve and protect this island forever. Well, one of the things, thank you for that Ted, one of the things about a property under consummation easement is that you can still use it as if it were your own and along with everyone else in the community. But there'll never be a no trespassing sign here and nothing will ever prevent you from using it as if it were still your own. And if I know you, you'll still be out here mowing the lawn from time to time. You do not have to anymore. You absolutely don't have to, but since you have kind of a vested historical interest, I think it's very special that you can take pleasure in the fact that nothing else is going to happen here other than what you have decided you want. Well what I've been swimming here since I was a little kid with my family, cold water doesn't bother me and just most recently I like to launch my kayak here and I envision other people launching their kayaks here and kids who will be fearless in the cold Atlantic.  Well, it is fun and again, anyone who wants to store their kayak for a few hours or a few days on this property will be able to do so within reason and because it's just open to the community and we like that. So Ted, we look forward to hearing your keynote talk today. I'm ready for that and again, I feel it's a special day and I'm very honored to be here. Thank you, Roger. Thank you, Ted. Nice to see you all today. It's a red letter day for me and the island too. Very happy to be here. It's nice to see a lot of familiar faces and some new faces too. I'll start by saying a few things about the property and myself and then I will move on to my more formal remarks. After college I became a lobster man here but my family had come here for a long time since my grandmother started coming here. This property has never been developed but I believe it was under the plow at one time. It was a meadow, there's probably some gardening here, probably animals grazed here. We know that the pet and gill farm had the animals and their boundaries came over and included this. And we had the Anderson dairy farm over here where as kids we found milk cans still. So besides fishing there was an agricultural basis to life on the island at one time. In the bushes over here in the Golden Rod are two boats that were mine. They're rotting hulls and it's kind of amazing that they have come and gone and I'm still standing here and they're doing pretty good. The white boat was over here was my first boat and it was built by Ward Bickford who was a cliff islander. It was built in Pine Point near Old Orchard in 1952. I was born in 1950. I was the last owner of that boat but it was Ward Bickford's last boat I believe was built in Pine Point and it was Wardy Cushing's retirement boat. Cushing lived in Eric Anderson's house with Molly and Wardy's a lot of lobstermen who have gone hard. At the end they just pull a few traps and this is his 18 foot boat, it's carvel planked and one of the interesting things about its construction is it's like Bubbie Anderson's boat. Bubbie being tall asked to have his boat built a plank higher than the most lobster boats. The sheer line was higher and Wardy not wanting to bend over as an 80 year old lobsterman asked Ward Bickford to, while it was already mostly built, to put it up another plank and I don't think the builder was really happy to do that. He had to scarf in a new stem and the boat ended up looking more like a bathtub than he probably wanted to but the main thing was you didn't have to bend over as much it had more free board. So there's two old boats over there and I've asked Roger and Leslie if they wanted them to go into the bonfire or be landmarks forever and I think that's up in the air at this point. But just leave it as it is for now. My mother started coming here with her mother in 1936. My mother was 15 years old so that was the beginning of an interest in coming here. My parents bought their first cottage here in 1946 after the war. They owned a cottage before they owned a house. They bought it for back taxes at about the same time they acquired the meadow from Ben Hall who owned the Pettengill farmhouse. What else? In 1959 my grandparents decided to buy a place. It was the Baybury Cottage over here as my grandparents were Ben and Meena Hartman. This house, that house was originally Miles and Inez, O'Reilly's, their honeymoon house. They quickly outgrew it because they had 13 children so there's a lot of history here and I'm not going to go much further than that. But I think that most people who have been here long term know that this is a special place to be preserved and that this is a red-letter day so I'll just switch from speaking off the cuff to what I have prepared to say today and I'm thinking of this as a rededication of the meadow to a greater community purpose. I feel honored to be standing with a group of people. I'd better grab my reading glasses here. I just feel very honored to be standing here with a group of people who have taken a stand to protect the islands and natural places they love. You have strong values and you have chosen to act on your love and reverence. There's a Buddhist teaching in protecting others we protect ourselves. We are only slowly coming to this understanding. We have a lot to be grateful for here on Cliff Island. Our sustainable community project at Fisherman's Wharf is well underway. The baseball field and Blackledge Marsh have been preserved. The Belknaps Bluff is everyone's link with the wild Atlantic. Much of the north and south points of the island have been preserved. The Griffin Homestead is now Parkland protecting the island's best swimming place. And today we stand on the meadow and beach that is passing from the private ownership of Ned and Carol Reiner and now to be protected by the stewardship of Oceanside Trust. This is truly a red letter day. Those who already love and use this land will begin to see it as theirs to protect, cherish and enjoy. The war on nature, the drumbeat of modern consumer society that eats up the land and its resources will have to take a detour here. Our success in all our conservation efforts is the result of strong community support, unflagging leadership and an admirable number of visionary thinkers. We cannot stop change, but we can learn to skillfully shape it. I think most of you gathered here will agree that every island in Casco Bay is a gem. So why do we feel this way? Is it in the drinking water? Or has something happened to us that has tuned us into loving this place? Our sensibilities have been fine tuned to love everything about this island. The sights, sounds and smells, the people, the boats, the rocks, the seagulls, the changing weather and colors of the day. We have a depth of feeling and intimacy that the casual visitor wouldn't understand. When you come to know a place, your experience and memories are multi-layered. You actually see differently than the casual observer. It's like seeing your mother's face. Many moments of recognition and appreciation are there within you. What this means is, if you draw away the veil, this meadow and beach are a paradise, if we can but see it that way. I'm thinking of two lobstermen that are departed, Carlton, Cushing and Bud Vortish, refer to it as the Promised Land, which is right out there, over there is where they found the July Shedders. But they weren't just referring to a potential lobster bonanza. It was dear to them. They saw it in a light that painters have struggled to put on canvas for generations. This land's value is not in dollars, but what it means to us to have it preserved forever. When we come here, we can drop life's struggles and worries. Our need to become something other than what we are can be suspended. Instead of becoming, we can settle into being, just being. This is the peace that many people seek through religion. The people who regularly walk here have found the beauty that's here in every moment, but especially so at sunrise and sunset. They have learned to walk in beauty. Something that Native Americans still try to teach their children. They teach what we have forgotten, that we are connected to all others and that we belong here. This place does not so much belong to us as we belong to it. When first you step into a meadow or woods, the animals and birds go silent. Then after you settle in and get peaceful inside, life resumes and the birds and creatures present themselves. They trust you as an honorable emissary who can take a message back to your tribe. They hope you will tell the other humans to live and let live, to come in peace and to feel the peace. They know that humans can be dangerous and destructive, but they see you have come to join the stillness. In this very spot, right over here, I have seen deer browsing with turkeys at their feet. There is no fear, they are comfortable with each other. In fact, the turkeys may be eating the ticks that bother the deer. Our challenge is to join with the symbiosis. As we simplify our lives, we can become more responsive and generous human beings. Our values become clear. What we hope to pass on to our children is character and knowing how to be happy. We hope that they will enjoy Cliff Island as we have. We know we will not be around forever, but living bright within our children and grandchildren will be our legacy. This land is now to be held in trust forever. We can pass on the torch as a gift and blessing to the young ones. We want our children to have this legacy even as life on this planet seems to be getting harder every day. Armed with courage and a moral compass, we stand with big hearts, hoping and praying that the beauty of this world with its natural landscapes, its birds, trees and animals will go on much as it is today for many generations. Every sunrise and moonrise will bring nature's renewal. We can stand in that light. Each new Cliff Islander will be given the opportunity to walk in beauty. I have just one more thing to share with you. It's a poem by Wendell Berry that echoes all of my words in just ten lines. It's called The Presence of Wild Things. When despair for the world grows in me and I wake in the night at the least sound in fear of what my life and my children's lives may be, I go and lie down where the wood-drake rests in his beauty on the water and the great heron feeds. I come into the peace of wild things who do not tax their lives with forethought or grief. I come into the presence of still water and I feel above me the day-blind stars waiting with their light. For a time I rest in the grace of the world and am free. That includes what I have to share with you. Is there some way that that will be reproduced for those of you? Oh, yes. Absolutely. Woo! Time to back to follow. Alright, a little more information. Sorry about that. I'd like to welcome Representative Janice Cooper, who represents Shabee in Long Island. You don't look like you've got a lot of scars on you. We've been defending the LMF program and not succeeding very well. We're not done yet. Okay. Keep working on it. We need LMF money, and all you main residents contact your representative, your senator, and if you dare, your governor. It's not a pretty picture, but we need the land-formance future money to continue work such as this. LMF funds are not required for the preservation of this property, but they are required millions and millions of dollars worth to protect other properties around the state, which have been submitted for conservation easements and purchases. Do you want to say anything about that, or do you? Please. Oh, sure. We'll give up a chance. So Janice Cooper. Well, as you probably all know, we had a bill before us in the very last day of the session that would have limited the government discretion about when to release bonds and to purely financial issues rather than political gamesmanship. And we had the two-thirds vote. We needed the first time we voted, and virtually all the Republicans who supported it, the first time flipped their votes, and we lost. So that's the bad news. The good news is that the bonds that were issued in 2010, that's the ones we're talking about, have now effectively expired, but under the Constitution we can renew them for another five years, which we will do come the second session. So we'll have five years to get them issued. So maybe we'll have a new governor. Eventually we will. Within that five years we certainly will, and maybe who knows. And all I can say is LNF is one of the most popular programs in the state, and it's just mind-boggling to me that we're in this fix. So I think eventually history is on our side, and we will get it. And we have supported people across the state, and it will happen. The program was initiated in 1987, and I forget the numbers. I was on the LNF board for four and a half years, when times were better. And we had no trouble spending money and preserving properties. So it'll happen again. But $120 million, roughly, I think something like that, has been spent to preserve property in Maine, and thousands of acres. Some are huge properties, way up north, and some are very small, and everything in between. So it's an incredibly important program. What is Maine? If it's not, it's an environment, and it's people who care about the environment in Maine. This is us.