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And the only way to reach mastery is with practice. To master a relationship is therefore about taking action, not about attaining knowledge. Mockin' wise, let's take a look at it out here. We have the Dow Industries up $6.96. NASDAQ's up $3.39. S&P's up $101. Gold contract tradein' down $1.20 at $1,709. Flat, silver's off $0.16, $0.18, $0.67 an ounce. Light, sweet crude, up about $0.36 at $103.95. Notes and bonds. So, 10-year note down $0.166, $1.1731. The 30 are off $19 at $138.21 and $Kingdala. $Kingdala is down 652 ticks, tradein' at $106.714. The euros at $102, the yen is tradein' at a price point of $138 and the British pound is at $119 to $1 at U.S. dollar. iPhone number's<PHONE_NUMBER>. Give us a call, folks. Wanna know what's goin' on in your world and the world of the S&Ps? Let's take a look at them. What do you have? Well, bottom line, Mockin' wants higher price. We're coming up to the swing. It looks like the S&P's also gonna close above one of the swings, not the second one. So the first swing, which was the last swing that was established out here on the 6th of July, that swing is $390.64 or $392.06. The next swing, okay, is that $393.16. Hey, we'll see whether it attacks it today. Doesn't have enough volume. We'll see. If we close right underneath it, man, it's gonna be a big deal because that'll blow through this in about two seconds. That being said, let's get over to the end of the X100. For the cues, basically, I guess the majors are leading the cues. The cues are leading the NDX, and the NDX is dragging everything up with it. So what do we have? They're at the cues right now. The swing point on the cues, $296.57. You're $298.15. Well, we needed 54 million shares there. It's gonna be, we can very well get 54 million. We're at 40 right now, so you get the 54 million. That's telling me that we're going up to that 314.56 area right now. That's gonna be, your benchmark out here is gonna be the June 2nd high right now. That's how this baby shakes out. Gold, gold contract out here still hasn't caught a bid. Bottom line is that you get 124,000 contracts out here today. You're backing down, you're actually going sideways. There's no sellers either, but there's no buyers. So you're at 124,000 contracts. That's light contract volume. When we came down last week, those couple days, you came down hard and fast, man. I think it was 200, let me pull this up. Yeah, the first day was 301,000 contracts. The second day was 266. So the selling's gone. Now the real question is, are we gonna get any buyers? And let's go over to Kingdala. So Kingdala is ruling the whole deal. There's no two ways about that. And you get Kingdala. That's some follow-through out here. Now the number to keep your eye on the Kingdala as we come into this close here, and we're right at it, is the 106,792. What that is, folks, is this, is that when we, well, Kingdala's been going up for six months straight. That being said, on the, let me get rid of that one. There we go. On the 5th of July, that's when Kingdala took off like a rocket ship and went up 1,700 ticks. So the top of that is the 106,792. Now we're into it, but we're only into it by 92 ticks. If we can get into that deeper bottom line, that'll say it's gonna go on back to that area, then your next benchmark is gonna be the high that was established out here in May. That number is 105,005. If you basically, you know, if we get into this bar, now this'll be the really cool thing. If we get into the bar deeper, the bottom line is your probability goes much higher you're gonna get to the bottom line. Then you're dealing with the swing point in May. You get underneath that, and then guess what?  So if you're trading this market, I'd keep your eye on the Dala because the correlation is absolutely direct. Dala down, market gets breathing room.  We go take a look at, let's go to Twitter because what's happened here, Elon Musk is gonna be in for a shock, folks. I mean, it's gonna be really interesting. You know, he plays with the law on a continual basis. No doubt about that, but guess what? The chance we caught is a whole different animal and so what you get is it, so let's, I'm gonna go through this for you so you can actually see what came down here because the, and remember something, the chance record of Delaware, okay, is not your typical court. It's not even close, okay? They, it's all corporations are there. They're well-versed and all the legalese and they're also well-versed on Wall Street being sharks and screwing each other on a continual basis. So, here's what came down. Twitter can fast track its lawsuit against billionaire Elon Musk over the canceled $44 billion buyout. The Delaware, can't check, Chief Judge, ruled Tuesday that a five-day trial should take place in October. The decision is an early victory for Twitter. Lawyers for the San Francisco-based Twitter had said they needed only four days to prove that the world's richest man must honor his agreement to pay $54.20. The, let's see, under the buyout agreement, Musk is obligated to finalize the deal within two days of all the closing conditions being met. These conditions will be met in early September and the bottom line, the judge said that in asking for February trial, must lawyers underestimated the ability of this court to quickly process complex legal disputes over merger and acquisition cases. The bottom line, folks, this is how this goes, okay? It's specific performance. And what specific performance is, they can get you for the whole ball of wax, okay? And the financing, so check out how this is gonna work. That's why they wanted this trial in October because the financing is already in place and the financing is good, I believe, till April 23rd of 2023. My take, guess what? He's either gonna come up with a huge amount of money to bail out, he's gonna buy it, he's gonna make them buy it. And yes, they can make them buy it. That's the mindblower about this whole deal. So it's gonna be intriguing watching this whole thing shake out.  Because the bottom line, it is what it is. And yeah. Dow, Dow right now is trading up $6.98 and Aztec's up $3.36. S&P's are up $100. Stay right there, folks. Come right back. Time of booming inflation. We are purchasing powers eroded. There's no better place to protect your hard-earned money than in gold. This, the gold's flagship asset is the Monk Todd Gold Project in the Northern Territory of Australia. This is Australia's largest undeveloped gold project. We are talking a world-class gold project in a tail-one mining district. 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Bing! Right on you, you have a lien. That's how that works. This lien will be picked up. I mean, yeah. This is a whole different, that's why I was kind of explaining it. It's a whole different ballgame. So, yeah, if it goes against him, even if he doesn't pay it, guess what? They're gonna get his money, you know? So, it's gonna be really intriguing to watch this whole thing out. I suspect he's gonna have to make a deal and it's gonna be more than the, see that the way it's structured, everyone's talking about, yeah, you have a billion-dollar give-up fee, but that's not it. They're going for specific performance. They know they have a deal. They're going for the whole ball of wax, and so it's gonna be more than a billion, even on a settlement. That's how I suspect this is gonna go, but it's gonna be cool watching. It's gonna be cool watching specifically, because this is what's going on, which I explained a couple weeks ago, but in case, I'm sure we always get new listeners, is that a Musk attorney. So, check this out. So, the attorney, I mean, the judge that just ruled for Twitter, that was just a fast track, which is normal anyway, particularly on a takeover, because they know that the funds to buy are only good until April. That being said, Musk attorney, okay, is the attorney in 2001 that set this president. He was the supreme attorney, as this woman is the supreme attorney now, the chief justice of the Delaware Court, Chantry Court. So, his attorney is the one that set this president, so it's really gonna be wild watching it, because his attorney is gonna be going against the namesake attorney, him, of the decision that was in 2001, it was, I think, a Tyson Chicken deal, I went through it before. So, it's gonna be wild, man, that he's gonna be fighting, saying that no, my decision wasn't right then, and that's what they've used for 21 years now. So, we'll see where it shakes out. Market-wise out here, let's go take a look at some of the higher volume equities out here inside of this marketplace.  No way, Jose, that bottom line is that you gave it up in spades again, man, it just can't make it, you're back in the range, Big Blue will now make a rundown of 114, you're at 130, it couldn't get over the consolidation, the top of the consolidation was running up here, it kept spiking up, up into these 142s, just gave it up, and guess what? Can't bust them up, you're gonna bust them down, so pretty crazy, man. Netflix, let's go take a look at Netflix because we have with Netflix, Netflix is gonna be coming out with numbers after the close, this equity has got absolutely toasted, roasted, all the above, lowest 162, the high 700, they're gonna be coming out at four o'clock today, and what's that number right there? So the bottom of that's 212, okay, we'll see what gets 212, let me pull this back more and see what this is going into. Okay, so you're over 195, you've already tested the bottoms, yeah, Netflix is gonna pop, I mean, what you have here is this, okay, so picture, this has been a straight move down since 700, right? It was going into a breakout area from 2018, now when it first came into it, it was way too much volume, the breakout area had 238 million shares, well you come into it with 251 million, but then guess what? No, you come into it with 403 million, then you tested it though with 251 and rejected it. Now you're inside that big bar, which is 18560, so that's saying Netflix can get some traction out of here. So we'll see what the numbers bring, but that's how that baby is set up at this particular point. Inside the Dow Industries, let's go look at the strength versus the weakness inside the Dow, we take a look at the Dow Industries out here, you got, okay, so point wise, this is what you have, you have Goldman putting 115 points, United held 74, bowling 53, Home Depot 42, taking away from it, the big one is IBM, 51 negative points, Johnson and Johnson 22, inside the NBX 100, what do we have? We know the chip stocks could be in there, man, yeah, so look at this, match.com, what the heck's going on there, that's up 8%, you got Marvel Technology, chip stock up 7%, AMD up 6.5%, Align Technology up 5.6, there's only two stocks that, inside the NBX 100, that actually in the red, and that is Exalon, is only down 9 cents, and you have Dollar Tree is off 9 cents too, every other stock inside that NBX 100 is running to higher prices. This is, this is gonna be, this is a fun market, but this is gonna get crazier, because now what the deal is, folks, we've tested the lows so many times, that now the question's gonna be, okay, where's the turn? And this market is just DV enough, and we've tested those lows just enough that I'm gonna ride this thing higher, man, I mean, because the bottom line is that we'll see how this thing reacts, not at the swing point we're at right now, at the next swing point that, the next swing point in the cash S&P, so on the cash S&P we're at 39.32, 39.32, right? 39.45 is the swing, the bigger swing. The biggest swing that I suspect we're going for though is 41.77, and if that's what we get, now watch this, this is cool, take the bottom of this, because if you take the bottom of consolidation also, more than likely you're gonna get the same prices, let me see, 39.45, that's 300, so that would be 42.95, and it's 41.77, there's 42 up here, interesting, oh, look at this, what's that? Yeah, we're talking 42.00, man, yeah. 41.77 is the hip, I suspect what we're gonna see is that you're gonna get like 42.00 or something, it's gonna be, let's put it this way, it's gonna be something that's outrageous, that's the bottom line, and that's how markets move, man, that's particularly how bear markets move, and what normally happens is that I was looking at the, so what we did not get today also is this, so when you get spikes like this, hey, let me show you folks, if I put up the tick, what I was looking for, just, you know, in this run up, like, okay, man, do you have people that, you know, do you have the tick down so low and you don't? Would you have, when you look at that, it looks like 17, plus 17, 14, but it's not, you don't count the opener to close on any of the ticks or trends, folks, okay? Bottom line, the biggest tick reading that we got, now today you'd be looking for positive, it's a positive 12.84, now what that means is that even as you're running higher, people that are shot, well, they're not closing right now, because when they close, you see that tick explode two plus 16, 17, 1800s, and today, not on the open. Stay right there, folks, we'll come right back. If you wanna take advantage of this sector, now is the time to subscribe to my Gold Report. The Gold Report is a comprehensive look at the metals sector, as well as the markets that move gold, which is the currency and bond markets. New subscribers get a 30 day money back guarantee, so you have nothing to lose. Every Monday morning, I publish the Gold Report with coverage of gold, silver, bonds, DXAU, HUI, JDX, as well as more than 30 different mining equities. To see for yourself the types of profitable trades that are recommended within the Gold Report, sign up now by visiting tfnn.com. 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Right now, the dollar's going down, the euro's going up. Well, the ECB is going to raise rates, I heard, half a point. That's right, and the more they raise rates, the stronger the euro will get. That's how that works. Versus the US dollar. I think I got enough money for enough, enough euros anyway. There you go. Short-term, would you buy? Oh, you just cut out on me, but I think you want Nvidia, right? Yeah. Okay, yeah, Nvidia's a buy. Nvidia's a buy. It's up eight bucks right now, and look at this volume in Nvidia. Man, it's good volume, it started yesterday, man. It had the volume missed, they gave it up in price. You get up to 166 yesterday, it closed out at 161, you had 67 million, you're going to have 70 million today, your swing point only is 42. That tells me Nvidia's also going to go up to June 1st, which is 196 and you're at 169, yeah. All right. Cool, man. Well, you have a great time in Italy, man. Thank you, Tom. Thank you, lots of wine, lots of lemons, lots of olives, oh my God, yeah. Cookin', brother. The food is great. It is, it's amazing, I know, man. Have a great one, have a safe one. Let's go to man John and Philly. John, what's happening, brother? Hey, Tommy. How you doing, man? Good day to you, sir. So, copper, right? Yes, Tom, I wanted to ask, Tom, copper from the 2020 bottom to the top right after the Ukrainian invasion. It was like 195 up to 505. The food, 618 support mark was $3.14. The low last Friday was $3.13. I speculate, I speculate copper futures stopped going down there, likely bottomed, and now will rally, that's what I speculate. I'm wondering if you can take a look at things the way you do, and tell me if you think there's a shot of that happening. Yeah, let's take a look at it. Now, if you're watching Tiger TV folks, as John just explained this, I put the fib numbers up so you can see that, straight out, man, the 382 is 319.04. Now, to sum the continue, so bottom line, it bounced off that, you know, .618 retracement, there's no doubt about that. And the cool thing, so the, here we go, one second. The cool thing about your question, John, right, is that what I would do, and I'm sure you're doing the same thing, is take the trend down now, just the last trend, and say, okay, what's the .382 on the way back up? And that's 386, and that could be, no, it's three, yeah, 369, 369. And that could just be a dead cat bounce. You see it, I mean, so you don't have to be right in the context so you get a full turnaround, right? You know, if it's a dead cat bounce, you still got good dollars in it. Indeed, and as you look at price and volume, what do you see, if anything? Let's, let me put this on this contract. HG, the active contract. Okay, so we get, we're back to the active contract now, so we can get the volume characteristics. Okay, so, yeah, you get them running into trouble on the daily, at 340. You can see this, you know, you're off with the 62,000 contracts, you made a bottom with 80,000, you're coming into 107,000 contracts.  Well, if we fast forward to today, 2022, on the 19th of July, it has blown up. And the way it's blown up, though, is not how people, any of us actually thought, is it's blown up in the aspect, John, that if you and I had bought a pad, right, the bottom line is that you're gonna pay the mortgage even when the place is not delivered, and now that it's all changed. This is quite a dynamic change, man, that I think China's gonna have a hard time with, and I think, yeah, I just don't know where the end's gonna be, you know, because they're boycotting paying, so if they're boycotting paying, what's gonna happen is you're gonna have less developers, the China will have to come up with the money, that's the bottom line, for the banks. By now, if we're talking new build and a new crop, I don't see them doing that. You see what I'm saying, it's a double bang, I like. I do, yeah, Tom, that's an excellent point, if this does keep going lower and breaks under that 310 mark in the coming weeks and or months, that demand destruction, that's likely going to be one of the key factors, so thanks for bringing that up. And then, you know, I think what's on the table, this is really intriguing, but what's on the table, man, you know, I was thinking about this last night, so check this out, folks, this is pretty cool, actually.  So think about this, John, this is really kind of cool, man, that the market itself is bigger than Z, not UZ, but you know what I'm saying, the premiere, okay? Yeah, yeah, G, right, yeah, that's it. G, thank you, and the market is, and the market's going to take them down, man, that's the bottom line, that's how I think this is shaking out, that, you know, and this is what happens, folks, in markets all the time, it seems to come from somewhere that you don't realize, and I think that role, man, is there, and the role's going to be that there's so many retail people that bought houses, and when you're doing business, folks, in the Asian community, the way it works is this, and I've done plenty of business, and in the 80s to 90s, I did so much business with the Vietnamese, some believe it, and one of the reasons that they can accelerate so quickly is that they really are a family community unit. So what ends up happening is that, you know, and most immigrants are like this, we, you know, my family was like this, I saw one of the little kids, everyone puts the money in a pot, okay, and then you help each other, okay? That's what they have going on over there, and so that's blown up, man, so he's got some problems, man, and, you know, we'll see where it shakes out, but I think we're gonna be, you know, they're gonna be printing a lot of money, that's the real bottom line, they're gonna have to print a lot of money to get this thing straightened out, and I think that's affecting some of these commodity prices, that's what it comes down to. Thanks so much for the thoughts, appreciate it. Okay, man, have a great one, have a safe one. Stay right there, folks, who come right back. We have the Dow Industries right now up $6.88, NASDAQ's up $3.28, S&Ps are up $99, and Kingdollar, Kingdollar is down $6.51. Stay right there, folks, who come right back. Vista Gold owns and operates the largest undeveloped gold project in Australia, the Mount Todd Gold Project. Vista Gold just completed their feasibility study, resulting in a 7 million ounce gold reserve. 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Let's go take a look at Disney. So Disney, bottom line. When we take a look at the low for the year is 90. The high is 187. Next time they come out with their numbers is gonna be on the 10th of August. They had a couple announcements this week. That was strong, no doubt about that. I like the setup, let me pull this back. Okay, so well, first off, yeah, let's take a look at it. It's been a one-way route in the way down. Okay, so we've gone from 156. You hit a low last week out here of 90. Now let's back it down. Let's see what we came into. Okay, look at this, unbelievable. So when you look at this longer, you went from 203 down right into the March swing area. So the low of the March swing area. Now watch how this shakes out because this is gonna be really important at the end of this week. The low of the March swing area is 79. And we hit 90. The high of that is 98.28. Now, we're at 99.51. Once you get, this is gonna be a rejection. That's what it looks like. If it's gonna rejection of lower price, bottom line, then just start going up to the swings. The next stop would be 113. And let's get this closer now because the way to do this, just when I was talking with John from Philly, is that the way, this is what's cool folks, okay, when you've done such a vicious downdraft is that you can just take a .382 of the downdraft and see what a dead cat bounce would be. Now, in Disney's place, I'm not gonna take the high. I'm just gonna take the last leg down. That last leg down started at 140. So if we take the last leg down and just see what a .382 is, that's 117. So what's cool about doing something like that is that you don't have to be right on the full turn. It's inch by inch as you go higher and all low. And in this case, it's gonna be inch by inch higher. So what you do, first you take your downdrafts, right? You take the .382 of it because the .382 is a dead cat bounce. So we get a bounce going. If we start getting volume in as it starts climbing higher, bottom line, you get more confident in the position. But more than likely, you're gonna probably get a .382 of the leg that was established. And in Disney's case here, I'll show you, they, so just to get some context on this, right? Is that they, so what happens is this, in the media market, folks, right? What ends up happening is they call it an upfront market. And what Disney did on the upfront market, okay, these numbers came in yesterday, it's never been so high, okay? Disney said, advertised, agreed to buy $9 billion with the commercials over its various channels and streaming services for 22, 23 seasons. Now this is after, they already went up on the ESPN deal, okay? The bottom line is that this is the highest upfront and the history of the company. You know, bottom line is that this thing's going, man. You know, they don't have to, what happens is this, and trust me, when I sell advertising, when you get a big deal like that, yeah, you can lay back a bit, but the bottom line is that it accelerates everything else because what happens is that then the other advertisers understand there's only so many more places. When there's only so many more places, what do you think they can do? They can raise the prices. That's how that works. So I think Disney has some action going top side right now. That's how it's setting up. And if we take a look, let's just see what they claim they're going to do. So if we look at their revenue, oh yeah, look at this, man, look at this. Okay, so for 2022, next quarter they're gonna do 21 billion. For the year, 84 billion, but guess what? As long as COVID doesn't take a self again, next year, 94 billion. So you're talking about just a monster expansion, man. Huge expansion, 84 billion to 94 billion. And then they're going from a, you know, make it $3.86 for a year to 542.  The airlines, there's no doubt about the airlines, they have to get that end, but guess what, there's so many people in Florida, man. And they just keep coming. Why was down Clearwater Beach over this weekend? And it's pretty amazing how many folks, this is just what I call them, stay vacations just come from Florida and go to other places in Florida. It's huge. I mean, it's like insane, man. It's like everyone's on vacation, man. So, hey, we'll see where it shakes out. Let's go take a look at this E-mini, because this thing wants to run right into the close. So you got, we got 13 minutes here at 107 on the air. Let's just see, this is really, oh, look at this, you got me another ABC Up. Yep, it's gonna be, here we go. Okay, what do we got? So it's another ABC Up, intraday. Let me see if we can get the whole thing. Okay, so 39, 38, okay, 24. So I got 28, 38, 48, 52. 39, 52 is the number, man. You're going to 39, 52. You got another ABC Up. And folks, if you don't understand the ABC Structure's up or down, get over to Amazon, get my book. Yeah, actually, you know what you should do? Well, you can do, that's one way you can do it, okay? Another way you can do it, if you go to TFNN and you go to services, you can go through the whole workshop, the workshop's archive, do is about four and a half to five hours, you get the workshop plus my book. That's more expensive, of course, than just the book. But bottom line, if you wanna, we're in an ABC market, folks, up and down. When it, for some reason, what I've seen is this, price law and Fibonacci sequences, right, work much better in fast markets. They just do. That's when they just bounce, bounce, bounce, and whatever it is, it is. And I think over the course of the years, what it has to do with more than anything is that the markets are out of control. When they're out of control, it's a better market. Well, it's a better market for me. Let's put it that way. It's a better market for how Fibonacci expansion contraction works. Let's, you know, so we'll see where the rest of this is gonna shake up. Let's go into the oil market and see where this oil market is, where it's looking to go. Oil right now is trading $103.95. Okay. Come on, come on. Okay, so look at the, oh, no, wrong one. CL, active contract. Okay, CLQ. Okay, so we got 3,300 contracts. Yeah, it's not good. Okay, so oil's getting, this is getting weak in a big way. Yeah. So the next swing point on oil is $105.24. But bottom line is that that, as we're climbing into that, that looks to me like that's gonna be it. Kind of, that's how that baby is shaking out right now. The, if we go over to the Dow Industrial, we take a look at the Dow, because I believe the Dow's over the swing point. The first swing, it is. Oh, no, no, it's not, no, it's not. Look at this, it's so interesting. Oh, it's over the first swing. 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You got cadence design, the low is 132, the highs 192, you're trading 161. And you know, these chips, man, the bottom line, the chips get action. So, you know, you need a little more volume here, Jose, but I suspect this thing is gonna try to, you know, bottom line, take the first swing out, which is, you're right next to it, 163.19. So... Oh, boy. All right, so I actually sold them at about 161.50, or 161.60 about an hour ago. So you're saying... Oh, that's great. To the, with this new, with this ABC, well, you got a new ABC going, you said it can get to 163? The, no, no, you don't have an ABC here, but what you have is that, you see, you're coming into this 162.19, and you hit 162.13, and you don't, you only have like 890 million shares, but I suspect what's gonna happen is this, the broad market itself and the NDX in general, and of course, the chip stocks, folks, this company is one of the most important companies in the world because they design all these complex chips that Nvidia and everyone else uses, okay? So, the bottom line is I expect it's gonna take this 163 out and probably try to... But they report earnings Monday. Oh, they do, interesting, okay. Well, then you don't, particularly you don't, because what's going on is that, that's coming into that swing, the volume is lightening up, okay? And the bottom line, we know Cayden's gonna be fine in the longer run, but yeah, there may be light, do you know what I mean? And just hold on because the bottom line is if they back down, you know, on a back down, I'd be buying it, I believe. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I'm glad I'm glad I get out this afternoon. Hey, I'm up here in Spring Hill, Tom, there are trusses every street you turn down. There's trusses lying on the ground, new construction going on. Everywhere, no, I know. Spring Hill's turning into monster city and it's beautiful. I know, man. Yeah. Okay, man, have a great one, have a safe one. Thank you. Oh, as you remember, folks, the bank and client, excuse me, the bank and client out the book and run you over and thank God there's always another trade. Have a great night, folks, have a safe night. Come back and visit Tommy tomorrow morning, kicks us off, nine in the morning, great show, folks.


This study aims to develop accurate landslide maps using machine learning methods such as artificial neural network, ANN, support vector machines, SVM, random forest, RF, and deep learning convolution neural networks, CNNs. The authors used optical data from the rapid eye satellite and topographic factors to analyze the potential of these methods, for landslide detection in the highly landslide-prone Razowa district in Nepal. They created 20 different maps using ANN, SVM, RF, and different CNN instantiations and compared their results with extensive fieldwork through a mean intersection over union, MIOU, metric. The study found that the small window size CNN method using spectral information only achieved the best result of 78.26% MIOU. However, the authors concluded that deep learning is still in its infancy and more research is needed to understand the effects of different designs on landslide mapping accuracy. This article was authored by Omid Gorbanzadeh, Thomas Blashk, Khalil Golamnya, and others. We are article.tv, links in the description below.


Mike, with the way injuries just seem to keep piling up execution issues, how do you keep the faith in the locker room of now that the lead in the division has down to one game? Well, man, I think you have to be professionals. You have to come to work. You have to. We all have a job to do. You know, we have to excel at it. We have to do our job better and we have to, you know, continue to find ways to not, you know, not hurt ourselves in all three phases to continue to play complimentary to try to sustain, you know, those types of things and, you know, just get the guys ready to try to figure out who's going to be available, where the, you know, where the injuries are, where you have to try to bring guys in or elevate from the from the practice squad. Challenge, maybe increase the fact that you've got a short week this week and a shorter week next week?   Then, you know, we have to put everything into this week and make sure that we're ready to go, make sure that we're focused and that the guys that will be in the game will, you know, be expected to play up to a level and a standard that, you know, is going to help us win. And having that conversation about not making the big mistakes and things like that for a couple of weeks now, the offense goes out and you get a penalty from one of your key guys on the first series, end up in second and 22 or whatever. What's that say about kind of the message getting through and guys kind of doing, not doing the things that you've been talking about for three weeks? Yeah, that's going to be a quick answer to an incredibly terrible, long question. Just continue to stay consistent and focus on improvement and, you know, making sure that they understand where some of these penalties occur, you know, pressure and, you know, Nate kind of went back and, you know, I think Ben saw the backer blitz and so just understanding like in special teams where, you know, those guys, you know, you get blocks in the back out in space is just trying to understand where those occur, you know, Hooper's penalties at the point of attack, you know, it's, you know, those are things that set you behind. That's it getting through. Jimmy, you got anything here? Yeah, I guess the final deep ball to Mike Williams, I guess, was maybe in the good coverage and they made a play there, somebody supposed to go there maybe helped them. What maybe went wrong and allowed that late field goal. A quarterback broke in and made a play down the sidelines. Defense. Not good enough. Again, a quarterback broke into a guy made a play down the field. So, you know, whether they were on them or not, I mean, they made a play. Mike, a couple of sacks the last couple of weeks that Dailey's giving up, there was the chip first. Did the chip serve? Yeah, not very good. Not good enough. Did it almost send him around? We got to stop the charge. We've been trying to work through this through training camp and some really good examples of that getting done. And then, you know, unfortunately, you know, we chip one time and a couple of weeks ago and we flew out of there and gave up, you know, pressure inside.  You're getting help. And then the last two times, you know, we haven't done a very good job of chipping and then our tackle stayed inside out to help the guard. And then all of a sudden realized, you know, I probably am going to need to get out of here a little quicker. And so, again, we just didn't do a good enough job on that particular play. Right, moving around the day and kind of starting back at square one as far as rehab and trying to get over that. Yeah, I mean, he'll work, you know, extremely hard to get to get back and find a way to make the game like he always has. And, you know, again, we're never going to question his toughness or his willingness to get back and help us win. As those injuries, they continue to mount up. Like, do you ever look at it and kind of like chalk it up to the physical nature that you guys play with? I think everybody, I think that professional football is a physical sport. And then I would say most everybody plays hard. There's some guys that play harder. But I mean, I also, you know, watch a lot of the games. And I think that, you know, I understand it's a physical sport. So, you know, that's, you know, where we're at is where we're at. We'll have to find out who's available and try to get the guys that need to step up, get them ready to go. As they mount up a little bit more for you guys over the last couple of years. I mean, do you ever look at that and wonder what is the cause? Should we not play as hard? No, I don't know. No, no, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes with the physical style that you play, is that more conducive to guys having more injuries? Like I said, I think there's a lot of guys in this league that play hard and that play a physical style of football. You know, football is a professional football is a violent game. Mike, you said that you evaluate everything and everyone every week. So what's your evaluation of tie down and spike calling from yesterday?  I'm responsible for every call that goes in. Whether it gets executed or, you know, it's a good call or bad call.  And I just really, really always curious about play calling. You know, I think that that's again, I've said it in all three phases. I think it's not not overrated. That's not the question mark is, you know, making sure that everybody's on the same page that we find ways to play the game. That, you know, we were close, you know, and just sometimes where we got into drives, another penalty, started to play drives off with penalties and getting in third and long. You know, I thought that Malik was prepared and went in there. It was probably the most comfortable that he's been. You know, we didn't protect the quarterback again. You know, hit some runs there in the second half that I thought were that were good. You know, again, I guess when when Hooper was was wide open, well executed play by by Hooper and Ryan and the line. I think the execution and play calling, you know, all go, you know, goes hand in hand. That's what I think about the play calling. You said he looked the most comfortable he's been. Does that play into your decision making this week and see the strides? I mean, Ryan's healthy and Ryan can play. I mean, Ryan be our quarterback. But again, I think Malik has put a lot of work into the show team and in trying to play the game and command the huddle and do all the things that we've talked about how he needs to try to develop during the week when there aren't a lot of reps. And he done and he did that. And, you know, Pat's watching all those reps with them. And, you know, we talked about not making bad decisions in the jog through just because it's a jog through or, you know, he'd try to break contain just to, you know, give the guys a look maybe last week or whenever we were with with Trevor Lawrence and we kind of threw it back across in the middle of the field. And I think it was a good opportunity for me just to say, hey, I think we need to just take off or, you know, try to progress and try to find somebody on the sidelines, not make those decisions in practice because we would never, you know, want you to do that. So we're always trying to coach him. And I think he has learned from those opportunities. And I think he was ready to go in in the game and try to help us yesterday. Decisive. I'm sorry. Was he more decisive? He progressed through. And I think, you know, the one where he took off and and scrambled, he looked didn't see what he didn't like what he saw, put the ball away, made a really good move. Got a first down, slid, took care of himself. You know, I thought maybe one of the moves, the ball got, you know, a little outside his body, which we continue to work with. But, you know, I would say that decisive he progressed through on the third down and, you know, was able to, you know, pick up a first down for us. You give much thought to going for two after the touchdown. I think, yeah, I did. I just thought that where the clock was, I think it would have been down a little lower. You know, that I probably would have, you know, I figured that where it was then, they would have had a chance to kind of do what they did. Unfortunately, On a third and two, why have Derek off the field? Well, I mean, Derek rotates. We got a package, a pressure package to prepare a third down back. Now, there's times that there's, you know, in there on third and two, there's there's times that that he's not. There's times that he's in there on third and long. So, you know, we have a package that we practice and guys are, you know, prepared for those roles. And sometimes Derek's out there. How do you view like third and two? Obviously, third and ones are running down, right? But how do you view third and two as more of a passing down? And I think it's, you know, predicated on, you know, what you feel like you're going to see the looks that you're going to get.  And again, you have a lot of options where you are on the field and you feel like you can, you know, run it or you feel like you're going to go for it on fourth down. That may predicate, you know, or dictate some of the call. You've seen the Mark Walker improve maybe since he's been here. I just think he played yesterday. He played, you know, really hard. I think he had some good rushes, power rushes and play with a lot of energy. I was taking advantage of the more snaps that he's gotten and been productive. So hopefully he can help us. He's, you know, been very durable and he works extremely hard and appreciate his attitude. Now, somatically, when you look at the division right now, there's a good chance it comes down to that last game in Jacksonville. Considering that, is there a chance that you may be rest guys try and get more healthy in the next couple of weeks leading up to that game? No. When you see what Houston's done the last couple of weeks, they play some solid games against both Dallas and Kansas City. How have they, I guess, I don't know, stood out to you? Well, they've got a great group of veteran players that, you know, played a bunch of football, I think, in this league and have been successful, you know, other places, guys that I have a great deal of respect for. And they and they play hard and they compete.  They continue to be opportunistic. They took the ball away and took advantage of turnovers with with Kansas City. Took them to overtime, you know, so they're obviously the record doesn't mean anything. They've got veterans that, you know, have played well in this league and continue to play well and add some some youth and, you know, so it again, it'll be a huge challenge. They took Kansas City to overtime without some key players for him yesterday. Some faith that Mike. Well, I don't think that they've lost. Anybody's lost any faith.     But, you know, with four, four straight losses, what do we make your leaders need to do to keep guys? You know, we don't need to keep guys and we just need to play better. We need to coach and get them going.  This is figure out who you got and get 48 guys ready for the game. Like this isn't a, you know, rah, rah, this is go out and execute, you know, do the things that help you win and eliminate some of the things that that end up costing you. Because you can see when we do it well and we play complimentary that we have a chance to do things. I mean, we've got to stop on defense. You got, you know, sitting there at first and goal or not first and goal, but first and 10 on maybe the 20-yard line and then, you know, go backwards and miss a kick. So I would like to have some of those things over. Along those same lines, you got to preach so much about the work during the week, D-Ray, for Sunday. Have you seen that slip at all during that stretch? Or is this simply just about somebody needs to make a point? Yeah, I mean, we walk through. I mean, we walk through 60 reps.  So we try to come up with a plan that we feel like is best during the week, like the preparation is good. I feel like the energy is good. And I think yesterday was a much different game than, you know, Jacksonville. You know, I think that it was, you know, competitive.  We didn't we didn't turn it over and handed to him. We didn't give up the big plays. It was really cool to see our defense go out there and sudden change and and do something and keep fighting. I'm assuming last year wasn't much different in terms of the walkthroughs. But in your first couple of years here, did you get more practice time this time of year? And if so, how beneficial is that in the last couple of weeks of the season? Well, I think playing well is the most important thing. So however you have to structure practice, just playing well down the stretch is most important. Try the rotation again to get where you wanted to get yesterday. Oh, yeah, we'll see how it goes this week. I don't know. We'll see how Dylan's feeling. Like I was asking earlier on the on the injury front, how much have you in the last couple of years kind of looked at everything that you guys are doing and have you have you changed anything? Or have you changed a lot? Yeah, we have. I mean, training camp has been different. And, you know, we track all the injuries. You check how they occur. Some guys are repeat offenders.  But we were very conscious of the training camp schedule, practice schedule. Talked earlier about how we try to have done research on getting guys to 90 percent each and every week. So it's not, you know, just once a week on Sundays, sometimes Wednesday and Thursday, Frank will walk around with the iPad, track guys and say, hey, I need to get 90 percent. So they'll manufacture some sort of stride. So that's not just, you know, they hit 90 percent on Sunday, way to week. And then all of a sudden go out and hit 90 percent. So we're focusing on some of those things. And some guys are repeat offenders that, you know, have been, you know, showing up there more than once on some things that are maybe similar or maybe the same injury. Are you surprised given those changes that you're kind of in the same spot you were last year before you made those changes? Since where we're at right now. So we'll continue to evaluate and try to, you know, get everybody as healthy as we can. Not much of it for you, because you just need your guys back when you get to the finish line. Oh, well, we need everybody that we can get, you know, we need to, you know, try to get everybody that we can get back healthy, you know, see where Danico is this week, see where Zach is this week. Yeah, there's a lot of guys coming off that game that, you know, may or may not play in the game going forward. You mentioned you lose a day in with your injury situation. What's practice look like here as far as how much speed you can do? It would look a lot like, you know, last week's.  But I mean, I wouldn't say it's doing much full speed work till Thursday. I know you don't have much choice, but is it harder to sustain the next man up message when it's several next men up every week, all season long? Well, you don't have much of a choice, do you? You kind of have to, you know, put somebody in there.  Mike, with the Dunn-Troll earlier on IR, do you maybe rethink the way you do some of the rotations with Derek and maybe keep him on the field more on third down with, especially as productive as he's been as a receiver this year? Yeah, those are different downs. I think that the play pass stuff, you know, it's different. It's really, you know, we're not using the back to to create and win one-on-one in, you know, a choice route situation. And I hope that's not what you guys are alluding to, because that would be that would tell me a lot about what you guys think of and how you view football. There's a protection element to it that we've worked extremely hard on making sure that everybody knows what to do and Derek's included in that. And yeah, I mean, obviously those roles that, you know, when we can get him the ball, I do agree with you there. He's worked hard to catch the football. Ryan did a great job on, you know, after the play fake, they didn't go with him. You know, Ryan was decisive and hit the nice screen yesterday. So, you know, there's just some first and second down element that may not, you know, translate to some.  We hear a lot about rookie wall and to see Roger and Chick both ascending when you're past that point. How good I've just seen the look on, you know, Roger's face. He's so competitive. He wants to do so well. He internalizes so much that, you know, again, addressed it, I think yesterday is after the, you know, the mistake last week before half where the ball went through his hands to be able to know the situation and, you know, understand it. And that's a fantastic play. Challenged Williams. I thought the last two weeks have been really, really good for him as far as just overall consistency. And we need that to continue. And then Chick as well, just to, you know, kind of make some improvements, you know, at the line of scrimmage, but certainly playing fast and probably one of our better special teams players had an outstanding play on the punt team yesterday.  And that's been, again, I've said it a million times, trying to, you know, that's the most impressive thing I think from him or Hassan is that they are really good special teams players.


can tell you that when I was an intern that we had a guru that had kind of this little hippie community in New York and he believed that the the most important thing in life is to eat brown rice but nothing but brown rice and and then we brought in a very very sick person from this commune with severe vitamin A deficiency I'll never forget as an intern corneas were gone and the lens had popped out and the fact that they would just continue to let this person with this obvious sear affliction or just more brown rice more brown rice really brought to me how bad vitamin A deficiency can be. Alright so we set this is ready to go this is a series of projects that have been done a lot of medical students and residents who were involved in this and you kind of a little bit of an interesting story how sometimes very small things in cataract surgery can result in some pretty substantial you know I think positive benefits. So we're so used to those of us who are involved in cataract surgery a lot of talking heads out there and they'll sit there and they'll say well I think product A is better than B no I think B is better than C and you and I happen to know them well and I know they're getting paid by A, B or C to say and I hear them in the same in a different venue because now it's a venue they're getting paid by B and all of a sudden B is better than A and there's almost no objective information of what's better than another and it's certainly something that in my career that's always bothered me about you know we got to get some objective information so that we can really start saying what's better and what it means. Well Steve Dewey's a good friend of mine. Steve has been a very straight shooter and Steve came up with an interesting concept and what he said is is that when you take a FACO tip and obviously we know the risk for capsular breakages when we engage the tip with their FACO with the FACO tip when the capsule is touched he said we've always felt that that tip should be sharp and by sharp if you look at it what we mean is is that it's it's very tightly machined so that this little edge right here internally and externally is crisp and that's going to be important in regards to the overall cutting effect of the tip but his thesis is that also means when you have motion if you contact the tip you are more likely when you engage it to break it and the little modification that he did working with Larry Lacks at MST as he said let's take that same tip only we're going to radius and we're going to round both the internal and external edge of that particular tip everything else the same so it's really a relatively minor change and that that makes it much more capsule friendly and much less likely to break the capsule that's the thesis and he's talked about this he's even did a little work here where he did some video but really nothing objectively that showed that that made any difference now I'm a big believer in the law of unintended consequence and that is is that whatever you gain on one side what do you lose and on the other side if we think indeed that the tip edge is critical for its ability to cut and shave okay maybe we're being a little more capsule friendly but also we're losing a lot of efficiency we're losing a lot of the important effect that that tip needs to provide so we'll start out with any validity claim can such a small difference really protect the capsule what's the price so I'm going to take you through a series of experiments we've done to answer all of this and I think we've got a pretty good idea in regards to just what that minor change of that tip and what it really provides so this is kind of fun and this presentation I gave there was how clinical studies can be fun and how you can think about these things and how it doesn't necessarily need to be horribly complicated to come up with answers we know caps are to break you obviously this is this is a a significant problem lots of things that can occur in association with it and so we started out with you know trying to do a clinical study as just so many uncontrolled variables that go on how could you say it's just the tip that's associated with these changes and it would be a very large study to do so we said can we take some fresh human lenses just right out of the eye bank and and just try touching them because it's that initial contact it's the biggest risk and see if there is indeed a difference between a regular tip and a dewy tip so we started with fresh human lenses want a pretty good vacuum figure that vacuum the higher the vacuum the more likely you're going to have a greater force good bottle height good flow all the kinds of things that we know are more likely to cause caps that are breakage and then the idea is you just tap this intact lens and human lens and tap it until you break the capsule okay sounds pretty simple and straightforward biggest problem we had in as we ran it we ran out of fresh human lenses pretty fast didn't take long but we've got some interesting results here run out before we could test that box in that box but ellipse and ellipse is a motion of the tip which is very interesting there is some vertical and horizontal and actually the tip if you were to measure it over time will will subtend an ellipsoid so kind of think of it a football but it's a full ellipse you don't have those pointed ends that that's where the tip's going to be we know that Ozil will actually subtend an arc going back and forth an edge of an arc it's moving in shape but very much just wags from side to side so we found out that when we did the dewy tip we had to tap on average 47 times when it was sharp for 10 full difference in regards to its likelihood to break the capsule and that was highly statistically significant we did longitudinal 6 millisecond on 12 millisecond on fairly common micro pulse type and that also took 47 taps we didn't have enough to do the sharp Ozil at 100% power these both 100% power was 22 not enough to be statistically significant because the number we had was not large but suggested maybe there is a difference in regards to power modulation our likelihood to break the capsule so we couldn't do all we wanted to do and get lenses it was going to take us 30 years of how many lenses we get through to try to finish all that off so we needed a substitute we want to know a little bit more about this transversal and torsional which are just Ozil and ellipse who want to know what what tip bore size I always felt that most likely the larger the bore size if you contact it you're going to have a greater overall suction area holding it more like you're going to break it and can you break it without ultrasound that's always been a question of people had if you just engage it you also need ultrasound at the same time to break the capsule so this is result that happened from a very low-tech solution it's stretched Saran wrap on a copycat and it correlated fairly well with what we already had done with those human lenses and even though it may not be exactly the same at least the likelihood of breaking should be relatively similar so not perfect but the best that I think's ever been done and and for some reason nobody's repeated or looked at this this is probably the only study it's an American journal of ophthalmology that looked at this specifically came out about 2010 so here's the different sharp think the regular tip dull think of a dewy tip which radius along the edge and the first conclusion we could find is every time we did this the difference between a rounded edge tip and a regular tip was very substantial at least not twice as good it was usually 10 times better or more so indeed Steve Dewey's concept of not having a sharp edge tip seem to make a big difference every time we tested it and so we did prove that element of his hypothesis and that is it is protective of the capsule some other interesting things we found is that yes in general you're more likely to break it with a 19 gauge than a 20 gauge as you can see 92% 58 that was highly statistically significant and that you could see that as we move down and so what we've got here in the dull tip we're so small you can't get statistically significant differences that those are very very unusual that you're going to be breaking it and this is per 200 taps so we did 200 taps on each one of these to get a lot of numbers we also found that when we did signature and so this would be with a signature 6 milliseconds on 12 off micro polts we found out that 10% power it was not nearly as likely to break as you 100% power you were about the same ellipse and Ozil you can see at sharp were about 60 65 60% and then again it dropped off but something happened with Ozil it got more common with 20 gauge what's that all about so it actually answered some questions but left a mystery for us to explain why theoretically 19 gauge should be more likely to break which we were able to indeed prove but the somehow with Ozil it's flipping in both instances it was worth with it it's worse with a 20 gauge so all of these things were conclusions we'd had and come up with what's this going on here with torsional that for some reason that a 20 gauge was more severe and this is a long story and this is actually relatively long talk and I'm going to jump right to the chase on this what we found is is that the newer cartridges in order to try and minimize post occlusion surge which is a positive have a negative side effect and that is that the active vacuum at the tip unoccluded I mean I was taught long time ago that with a peristaltic you essentially had no vacuum at the tip until you occluded it but inherent in these systems to control post occlusion surge is enough friction that the measured vacuum unoccluded at the tip can indeed be as high as 245 millimeters of mercury now that's getting up the same as Venturi so that our thought that there's a I think part of the reason why these machines are acting more Venturi like is they actually are more Venturi like they are more vacuum based than peristaltic once you're getting that kind of vacuum in particular as you move from a 19 to a 20 gauge and you do the math all of a sudden the overall net result on the capsule flips and you're getting greater overall force on the capsule with a 20 gauge I think that explains that particular difference notice also that when we get more restricted in the system we're also going to get less flow so we're not getting quite what we need I think these are just examples of how you need to understand that everything that you do that may have a positive you got to look to see what the negative but the other side of this may be and that's what we found with that now in both the human lenses as well as the capsular substitute even with these aggressive parameters we never could break either without ultrasound so I do and I'm not saying it's impossible you know and looking at videos though it appears as though it's contact plus ultrasound is what breaks that capsule if you just if you just touch it I'm sure I'm you know if one of you residents is going to poke hard enough you can break it but if you recognize you just touch it and you pull away it it takes ultrasound but with ultrasound there's no question there can just be contact and it's going to break I do think a wagging with a sharp tip back and forth and how we use it we tend to use it at higher energy is more likely to break the capsule and I've seen a couple of clinical studies I haven't seen any published but I've seen some presented suggest the same thing that the risk with contact may be two to three times higher with that wagging horizontal motion I don't know we have enough to differentiate both whether Ozil and ellipse are different from each other but I do think in comparison the longitudinal there is an increased risk with contact and that's worth doing some additional studies which is frankly something I'm in the planning stage of right now so capsular contact with active ultrasound is risky business radius tip very protective we're able to confirm that in that late latest peristaltic systems can have been sure you like active vacuum actually use torsional and I don't know if we can see transversal or Ozil is different may increase capsular breakage risk but what are the downsides remember and this is the paper came out a 20 10 and now we need to understand but but what mechanically are we losing okay I mean we've lost sharpness and is that sharpness important for our ability to cut so this is a more recent study I got some of the residents here in the room involved in this and a nice paper and this is what price then is with sharp tip does this impact cavatational energy what about chatter we got increased chatter associated with us that's bouncing away from the tip when that fragment bounces away from the tip you got two problems one you got to go find that particle again I think searching around trying to find things that when you often get near the capsule so you're putting yourself at risk for contacting the cap capsule but we also showed in a in a very nice study that Jeff Petty and was involved in with some medical students that once you have gross chatter you dramatically decrease your overall efficiency so that the amount of time it takes in a control fast and remove these particles can take a lot longer and again a nightmare study to do clinically you just got so many variables and the numbers in order to do a power assessment is so huge because of all those variables it would be very hard to do looking at your regular cataract surgery so the solution start out with a couple of nice studies done and the first one is that we needed some fresh brinescent human nuclei and Jeff Tabin we told him we need it and he brought about 60 back from Africa so he's gonna be pretty hard these are gonna be on the much harder side that you normally have we need to make sure we've got something relatively controlled and then what you do for efficiency it's pretty simple how long does it take to remove a fixed-size particle you can do that in repeated fashion and then is it gonna bounce off the tip we call that a chatter event how often does that happen obviously you want efficiency means as short as seconds as possible to remove a controlled size but you don't want to do that with chatter where it's a bouncing off the tip it was a couple of students who worked over a period of time Griffin Jardine some of you remember him he's now at University of Oregon as a resident really did a lot of this work but came up with a pretty slick little system of using razor blades where you can take a lens you you've got to have a lens that's relatively hard can't just take a lens it's coming out of the the eye bank and do this but hardening either pig lenses which is something that later these are the human lenses that you put them in a little area that's kind of lens shape you cut them into fragments so you cut them in one direction turn them around cut them in the other direction and you end up getting cubes that are roughly two millimeters on the side then you can put all of these cubes together when you gonna do runs shake it up so you've randomized you can have some a little harder some a little softer you randomly pulling them out and now you've got a controlled experiment that can start getting you some data really comparing things to see what's better and what's not and you can do this in a very controlled fashion pretty simple set up set it inside of here and that normal little container we use wait till you've aspirated up to the tip and then once you've got it aspirated you hit full pedal down whatever your settings are every time it bounces off as a chatter event don't count the time you you only count the time that it's sitting at the tip for your efficiency but you also count each chatter event and Trent 10 to 20 runs for modality 10 runs is generally what we did with these human lenses because we had a lot we wanted to study in and somewhat limited amount of material in it's controlling parameters in a way that's very hard to do in patients so this is the DeMille study came out in JCRS 2012 nobody's ever looked at this in this detail you can see we tried to look at a lot of different parameters I just want you to notice because this isn't the main we're mainly talking about the Dewey tip is the broad range that you see here in regards to efficiencies looking at the same technology I mean look at Ozil IP which is kind of the latest variation we can go from 38.4 down to 4.9 seconds just based upon what the parameters are parameters are critically important I could design a study knowing the information here which I could make any technology look better than the other just on how I adjust the parameters so just because somebody shows that one thing is better in the other and tell you know what parameters and to me you have to show you've optimized the parameters so you're really comparing apples to apples and that doesn't happen and that's part of the reason why you'll get a saying I'm better than B and B better than a because they purposely I think have set it up to where they're gonna win they're not necessarily looking at what the objective site is anybody who says these these technologies that wag side to side cannot have chatter you can see there are ways to minimize it but you could also get a lot of chatter depending upon what your overall event is the cool thing though is is now we started having technology we could look at it even better this is a correlation between efficiency and chatter which was highly statistically significant remember we measured efficiency not counting the time when I had bounced off the tip and yet whenever you you're gonna have a chatter event you're also gonna dramatically decrease your efficiency and I think because you've got micro chatter that's where you watch that tip those of you done cataract surgery sitting at the tip but it kind of bounces you see a little bouncing around there until you feel it kind of suck in and then usually it disappears micro chatter is also a major cause of inefficiency in removing these particles so the second phase is because we can't keep expecting Jeff Tabin to come up with a you know 50 60 lens nuclei every time you wanted to test this is could we come up with a technique to harden pig lenses to get a similar effect overall that we were getting from these human nuclei and it's really a very nice piece of work that was put together it's a variable time soaking and formalin and then in BSS for 24 hours you get a consistent hardness then you got to use them cutely after that you can't wait very long or you can you'll start getting softening and changes in the lens again the same overall idea cut them 2 millimeter per side mix them all up together and now you've got a randomized way of doing some very good comparative information so beautiful piece of work here you can see that this is the pig lens itself they're hard enough you could cut them up relatively well and this is how hard they are and we just little test by crushing them to half their thickness and we had our results from the original human lenses with a standard deviation here and you can see two hours does it and and so now we've got a very easy way of actually duplicating with pig lenses human lenses in in order to study these things and there's lots of cool tests that have gone on and several other papers as Nick knows about that have come along I think it's a I think it's a great objectively look at some of these things for the first time ever so this is the results looking at ellipse FX that we had before and you can see that the two hour on that one and this is the human results were very very similar so a two hours going to be very close same thing with Ozil you can see there we are very very similar and this time we use exactly the same parameters we use the optimal parameters that we had discovered from the original test so we're trying to do what's the best of breed and then how well can we duplicate that with pig lenses but the more was done here also for the first time looked at longitudinal there's been a lot of studies have been out there that show that say torsional is better than longitudinal but what do they compare it to continuous longitudinal that's like saying I want to compare a nifty pistol I have with somebody else's pistol but instead of using their best pistol I'm going to use an old flint lock I mean longitudinal was shown a long time ago not to be the best way that you can deal with longitudinal that at least it would appear micro pulse these very short pulses may have some advantage nobody looked at it this is a very preliminary look more work has been more comprehensive but this is comparing 50% power to 25% power and then we use the same parameters that had been the best for Ozil and ellipse for those the best parameters for micro pulse don't know that work is now still ongoing but at least we're comparing the same thing and what you can see is on average at 0 1 in 2 hours very consistent results moving through here the harder they got that you certainly saw a larger difference between them and it was fairly it's not quite but almost twice as much so it appeared indeed that in regards to the overall time that 50% was a better way to go and and then we use that 50% on and said well let's compare it to Ozil IP and in spite of what people have said that is dramatically better it was actually not statistically better but it was actually shorter it was not too far off being statistically significant so this concept the longitudinal is old-fashioned and not nearly as good didn't bear up in this study and then compared to lips FX ellipse FX was a little better but again these were not statistically different so at least in the preliminary study best longitudinal does not appear to be worse than best of the other they appear to be very similar in their efficiency and as far as chatter is concerned they were all very minimal so the idea that one has a lot more chatter than the other did not pan out looking at these relatively hard chatter events were not statistically different and were very close to zero throughout so things get touted is better and nobody ever looks at it carefully I'm not sure if we were able to show that any of them using best scenarios were any different than each other but the beauty of this is now we have the ability to look at the Dewey tip and ask truly does it as a result of being protective the capsule does it result in less efficiency because now we can do a head-to-head comparison and these are the results as we went looking through this so this is out they put Alcon on here I need to get better slides on this but essentially this is Ozil IP and you can see that with a non-radius tip on average it was a second and that with the Dewey tip it was 1.8 second and that was statistically different so it took about 80% longer to remove a nuclear fragment with the Dewey tip than it did with a regular tip that's probably clinically important you know 80% longer this is for each time you're removing you know a certain size chunk of material but it would appear as though yes there is a distinct downside in association with use of Ozil it's probably clinically important so what about looking at the ellipse FX this this ellipsoid area looked at that did the comparison no difference in those you see the P I mean those are those are I mean you're talking less than 100 the second and everybody agrees they're not only not statistically different they're the same so interestingly a Dewey tip in regards to its overall motion for at least with an ellipsoid movement didn't appear to make any difference it was just as efficient now it's interesting to think about why that might be it's been surmised for a long period of time that because of the motion of Ozil where it subtends an arc that most of that overall cutting effect is a shaving effect and if you think about it that makes logical sense now if any of you have been involved who are woodworkers the rest you're trying to do shaving sharpness of your shaving tip is really important right you try and use a chisel if you want to do shaving that's rounded and dull all around the edge and you're gonna have a heck of a time doing any shaving so I think it makes logical sense that if shaving is a critical motion and you've rounded that edge cut off the sharpness you're gonna lose efficiency so it doesn't surprise me if indeed that is the main part of what the Ozil effect does that rounding that edge is less efficient now this ellipsoid motion there's a little difference in the cavitation that's probably gonna be created in association with that and there's a fair amount of longitudinal motion it appears as though shaving is not nearly as important and whatever there definitely there's the proof in the pudding right there those are not different those are exactly the same numbers so a dewy tip if you're going to be using ellipsoid type motion you can get at least a tenfold better protection of capsular breakage with no loss of efficiency that's clinically important right isn't the worst thing we run into is capsular breakage isn't that the biggest risk that we have if you cut that tenfold doing nothing else and not lose efficiency I think that's that's that's pretty important so what about looking at 612 micro pulse we do a six time micro pulse again exactly the same a suggesting that the longitudinal motion does not require a sharp edge those numbers again those those are not just not statistically them meaning they're the same as one that's about that's about as close as one as you can get those are exactly the same and therefore those who are using micro pulse or ultra pulse or a variation again the dewy tip does not result in any loss of efficiency whatsoever in the motion and association with that again I think interesting cool information to have potentially clinically important now it turns out that as we ran that batch and we looked at our overall times they were more on the soft side and we have found since we've now done a series of these that the amount of time of hardening very much depends upon the age of the pig lenses you get some pig lenses come in a batch are much much harder than others and neatly and therefore you need a little more time and so variation we do now as you get a batch you run it check about how long it's taking in a controlled way and then you may have to harden them a little more to get a consistent period of time that's more like your harder and this first batch we had was relatively short I said you know people are going to run the question we just ought to answer already let's make them harder and let's do a four what's like a four plus to a really brinescent cataract to see if this information holds because what I hear some people say with the dewy tip well I don't know if it and steve said this I like makes a difference until you get to a really hard nucleus and then I think the dewy tip is less efficient well guys we can answer this so let's go on let's get another run let's put this together so as you can see that these are harder because the amount of time remember we're down around a second now we've increased their hardness to their over two so these are roughly two times harder than what we've had in the initial set of experiments the results in regards to a torsional are exactly the same that's almost double so 80 to 90 percent longer statistically significant so indeed ozol seems to be very important that it has that sharp edge for the shaving effect and overall your efficiency is going to be about half of what it is take about twice as long to remove with ozol what happens when you go to lips FX those are again exactly the same see what your p-value is so confirmed it now time to removal here is actually about a little over twice as long and you can see that it does not make any difference and to complete the story six twelve milliseconds off on and frankly it was a bit leather radius was even a little last don't know what that's all about could just be sampling error those are not statistically different but again it only appears with ozol at a dewy tip results in less efficiency and it's roughly going to in about double your time for removal for the others there are exactly the same chatter I can tell you there was no difference in chat so you weren't getting an increase in chatter dewy tip doesn't seem to make any difference those were exactly the same for all of them only the efficiency was impacted so I hate the tip action is mentioned it's a shearing effect that longitudinal motion doesn't seem to need it and no difference in chatter is pointed out it is true that transversal in micro pulse have been shown by mark Schaefer an ultrasound engineer to induce more cavitational bubbles at lower energy so potentially cavitation is a more important factor and obviously the dewy tip doesn't appear to have any impact on that cavitational energy conclusions depending on if you're using ozol or not I think dewy tip is great I don't use ozol and I've gone to a dewy tip I think that if it's a if it's going to decrease my risk of caps that are breaking should I inadvertently contact the capsule tenfold with no other loss to me that's kind of a no-brainer so personally I thought dewy's come up with something fairly cool at least the way I'm doing it I don't see that I've lost any efficiency and this is what's fun about clinical research you know you can pose these questions you can sit and get some pretty definitive answers for the first time we're answering a whole series of questions both bryans are involved in this work we've done Jeff petty bill borla where's bill bill was over here he's been involved some of this and we're finding out what is the most efficient on and off time for longitudinal ultrasound and it's not exactly what a lot of people thought and we've got a paper that's just getting ready to be submitted and you know what what's the difference in regards to bore size and the overall size as far as efficiency it turns out it's not a linear relationship your your 20 gauge is far and away more efficient than 19 or 20 you know these are the kinds of questions that I think are going to be a lot of fun here as we move move on that's where clinical research I think really is couldn't be a joy and why I get as much kick out of it and getting these responses now as I did 30 years ago and so small change in the tip does it make a difference I think it does and I think it was actually clinically pretty important thank you very much questions yes Nick yeah I think Jeff what do we go get about 10 different studies lined up some more we just recently did and it's gonna be a lot of fun I'm just gonna have another example when Ozil first came out and I heard Dick McCool stand up and he said this modality a hundred percent protects against Wumber you put it a hundred percent power pedal to the metal the entire case you cannot get a Wumber and a lot of people took that up and I then I was hearing you know I got a wound burn and I'd never had a wound burn before and yet you were still hearing at the podium hundred percent you can't get a wound burn so we did it's a series of work but the most important is this this national survey in the United States in Canada and where we could get about a million cases and yeah there's always a bias in a survey but most people remember their wound burns pretty well net result is it turns out that Ozil was not protective against Wumber at all in fact it was right in the middle of the pack and it was it was probably better than continuous but that it was not statistically so in fact it turns out that power modulation wasn't important in prevention of wound burn far and away the biggest cause of wound burn was the use of Helan 5 and then it was how you how you use it if you're a divide-and-conquer surgeon you're much much more likely to get a wound burn than if you were a chop in that it was your approach it was important but the power that didn't know there was no protection for any of the different power modalities from Wumber so that's that's kind of fun stuff yes so I'm going to answer your question really really fast what you see here in a few things we put here is the only time this has ever been looked at by anybody and we're starting out with the very basics so anything that you talk about that that is slightly more esoteric exotic this the short answer is no and I'm not aware of anybody who's even trying to do any of this yet Nicky you get anything else other than our group I'm amazed at how many people who were willing to put their name and reputation who are almost like they're ignoring that this is getting objectively looked at at this particular time so the short answer is no but you know that that'll be 13 there you go we'll get Larry locks to make up some interesting tips and look at them but what we can answer those questions now so that that's that's going to be kind of cool all right thank you