interact as well in that sense just come in there as well around and and I guess it's the whole intersectionality conversation and in Scottish disability sport we have an inclusion model that really can be used for anybody but it's about that participant-centred approach and it's bringing you know it's about listening to people it's bringing into the table all the ingredients that they need to participate in physical activity in sport and we also have a regional team who provide that bespoke support so should anyone who wanted to take part in physical activity in sport or come in through a physio referral to us and you know no matter their background or socioeconomic background or you know if they were if they were gay if they were from an ethnic diverse background or if they had poor mental health then we would work with them individually to support them into an opportunity of their choice and if changing places was it was a consideration that would need to be looked at if it was equipment if it was kit then our regional manager would provide that bespoke support and I guess that's something that we're all going to see across the board here is that it's about having that participant-centred approach it's about looking at it through intersectionality and not just in individual silos around you know different protective characteristics because we don't want to get into that that pecking order or you know bun fight for for status or whatever so for us we simply use our activity inclusion model and obviously when it comes to competition that's when other considerations come into place but in terms of general participation it's about having that participant-centred approach and using the model to bring to the table whatever that individual needs to access physical activity in sport and remove the barriers Sandish Gilhane has a subject thank you actually Lynn I would agree with everything you said there about ensuring that we try to get everyone in sport because we know it helps mental health we know it helps so many things and I think with the stigma that comes it puts a barrier in the way of people wanting to participate in sport from the LGBTQ plus community can I turn Heidi I've got direct questions I would like to ask in response to test white one of your responses said when necessary so where is it necessary so you'll you'll see from from guidance around gender affected sport and you'll obviously well I'm assuming you'd be aware of some of the UK sports council's guidance and we are under no illusion that there might be a competition and sports where you would need restrictions however we would always say that sports governing bodies should be making these restrictions based on the evidence available and make sure that they are based on actual information and research that would make make sure that the impact is is considered and my question was where necessary so yeah the the response you gave to test white you referenced where necessary could you give me some specific examples when necessary I'm afraid I can't because I can't give you any specific examples of specific sports so I think and apologies that might have been me broad-stroking an answer in that sense what I meant was making sure that we aren't just blanket banning trans women from a sport however we are potentially putting restrictions in or putting in supportive measures that mean that if you are able to meet specific levels for example to testosterone however I don't think that that's always necessarily the best measurement that if you are able to meet some of those you are also able to participate so that's my apologies if I've used language that's not completely clear however I'm not going to be able to go into specifics about where restrictions would be would be necessary however I do believe for supporting and inclusion and highlighting participation of specific trans women of specific people that it would be useful to have supportive guidance and measures in place okay so so for example if we look at anyone wanting to train to be a runner or an athlete there should be no barriers and training but when it comes to the competing side of it world athletics have said that trans people can't compete in women's categories so would that be an example of where the governing body has said something and that is a something that is what needs to be put into place at the more junior levels we are unfortunately seeing a trickle down effect of policies that are being put in place at a at a world level or a competition level however in many governing bodies that doesn't necessarily mean that the home nation so for example Scottish athletics or British athletics needing to follow that exact policy they can still in place their own policies in that sense however because of the focus on this at the moment there is a worry that the individual grassroots sports or the competition levels within the individual countries are being influenced by these policies that are coming on the world stage and I don't believe no that because of a world athletics rule set that a competition levels will be directly affected unless put into restrictions or rules within Scotland okay and my final question if we look at participation in sport for everyone who plays on whatever level that you play at so it's you know if I want to play squash I want to be playing that against somebody who's sort of at my level and I want the playing field to be level in everything that we do because sport inherently isn't fair you know there are categories in everything so do you think and I suppose this might might not be this might be your personal opinion might be your leaps opinion but do you feel that trans athletes have an unfair advantage in participating in competition compared to biological women no I don't thank you thank you we're going to move on to our next theme ethnicity and religion and I'm going to come to Emma Harper thank you convener it's kind of similar to what I was asking about earlier but I'll come to that as far as uniforms as well but I'm interested in what you think the particular challenges are for women and girls from ethnic minority groups to participate in sport and I think there are obviously real challenges and when we look at some of the statistics that have come out it's it's quite apparent that ethnic minority girls and women certainly don't either have the opportunity or even engage I'm I suppose Evelina I might come to you first on this one thank you definitely when we work with the female from ethnic minorities we need to understand the culture we need to understand religion and we need to respect what is linked to be who they are in terms of sport activities very often we receive very upset voices of young girls saying that having a hijab or scarf may affect their participation but they are okay with it what is not acceptable is the response from the peers and coaches who trying to encourage them sometimes they actually cannot understand this is a part of their being we need to understand that we can't change somebody's existence somebody's values based on the needs of the sport activity when we talk about changing rooms or same sex activities as as much we do support transgender women and we provide the therapy for them we need to follow the needs and requirements of let's say Muslim community where transgender is a table when it's very very hardly to understand which doesn't mean there is lack of respect or acceptance no in terms of sport or physical activities especially our Arabic clients our Pakistani girls they really need to be safe having same sex activity having opportunity to be surrounded by women only it is crucial for them to be heard as well and accommodate this when we look at other ethnic minorities it's not only Muslim community or Arabic community this is also Eastern European community which by engaging in a sport will look at things differently I'm a Polish person so I can really tell you that being a woman is a kind of dignity I would like to protect and I could not really feel free of not having opportunity to go to female toilets this is very basic need human need but I would like to be heard and understood and I love everyone I love human and I'm happy to support everyone who needs the support but ethnic minorities women needs to be heard as well and they rights they religion they beliefs cannot be violated by pushing a general agenda just because we need to be general so we getting back again it is very hard to find a gold solution for everyone but I believe by providing person centered approaches we are able to come to great solutions so in terms of the question that you asked there we also worked with on our partners Scottish Athletics and Jogh Scotland to create a project called community strides that aim to increase participation from people from ethnically and culturally diverse communities but also blend in mental health awareness because we knew there was massive stigma around mental health for for that particular community some of the things that we identified through working with community champions and community leaders from culturally ethnic diverse communities was the influence of religion the belief about clothes and how you wear clothes so short sleeve clothes to take part in sport sport or physical activity was a big issue and we had to address that we were really lucky that from that voice of people from that community helped us then to work with others to actually get sports clothes that actually covered the arms covered legs all this kind of thing that that meant that people the women could participate in that even the environment was something that we looked at so we had to look at a closed environment because the idea of people watching was a really big issue and a real barrier so we had to think of those particular areas within it but again what I would say is one of the really big solutions was about community leaders and community champions from from those communities who came in and helped to influence and shape the approach that we took so we have to do much much more of that where we are involving people in the co-production the co-design of projects that recognises those barriers and then finds the solution to it that means people are then far more engaged and to give you an example of that particular group of women there was about 12 women and because there was a champion within that group because of these activities they then went on and joined jogscotland networks so 12 of their women went in and joined the local group because barriers were broken down they felt included they were you know they were involved in the whole design and they were involved in what it meant to go elsewhere so that was really really important and again that voice is so important to listen to that recognises all those areas what you're saying about the environment about having the ability to participate without others watching I know there's a women's only gym in Dumfries and it's and the music coming out of it when I walk past with the dogs is amazing and I think that do you think having you know recognition of what we're talking about today is about how do we encourage women and girls to participate in sport having the ability to participate in a safe place without fear of being judged without fear of somebody criticising you for wearing a hijab for instance we know it's really now easier to buy sports hijabs and so do you think that would be part of the progress towards more awareness of and accepting of women from ethnic minorities participating in sports so get the rock music on and have a women's only gym I think I think the reality is that you can have a fantastic venue and you can have fantastic equipment in that venue or fantastic individuals but you have to reach out to people to help people to reach in so we have to listen to what that what that is and hear what is going to support someone to get to that particular place so we talk about three areas within environment about the culture of that environment as well it has to be safe it has to be secure that recognises the point so we covered windows that that meant people felt safe within that particular space and it has to be supported so as as my colleagues around the planet and buzz was talking about if we educate and we help people to understand ways in which they can bring those environments alive and be supportive we are going to see more people engage in them because their voices been heard and they're coming to spaces that have been designed and developed to take all those things into consideration and it's about choice as well and it's about choice in a way that people can engage, participate and achieve within that space. It's also as you mentioned when we think especially about a Muslim community we have the girls cannot do sport because of but in sterling we have extremely busy role-skating group and every session is fully booked and there is over 20-30 young people skating and you would not believe how great it is why it happened because we heard the voice because there was a need of organising this. We provide walking therapy, a group walking support and this is a beautiful act of inclusion it's not very heavy sport activity but this is the promotion of healthy lifestyle and we have groups sometimes of three women sometimes 14 and we go for a walk and we do breathing exercises and we do the grounding exercises and sometimes the 40 women are coming from 14 different countries so there is a lot of opportunities we can bring by the listening to the voices as Robert said. Just a wee final one so inclusion is an absolutely great way to tackle racism you know when we live in the same communities and work in the same communities we learn from each other what specific things do you think could be implemented to tackle racism in sport whether it's religious related or just the fact that some people don't understand certain cultures? It was looking at the hate crime strategies and I believe that was really great time and very meaningful documents created. There is still a lack of understanding what is a hate crime maybe if we could start from it raising awareness it's not only the verbal abuse we can fall into the hate it's not only the physical violence which creates the hate bringing awareness bringing a knowledge again as a part of education understanding what is a hate crime help us to understand all the aspects of racism and brings the importance of learning about other cultures and religions. I think what everybody is saying here is absolutely spot on but we need places for people to go and participate in sport and where you have smaller groups taking part there's a whole as you'll be aware you know the leisure facility crisis that's going on at the moment but we need places for people to go and play sport and where there isn't you know we need to we never get massive numbers to begin with but if if programs don't wash their face to begin with they're not allowed to grow and develop and we don't hear the voice of the people and that's where at the moment we're facing great challenges as we cannot find facilities for people to go and participate in sport and that's going to get even more because of the challenges faced within leisure facilities at the moment and you can understand their challenges but as a result of that and it's the wider health inequalities that are taken place at the moment people with disabilities in other groups as well have been the hardest tip by Covid we know that people with disabilities are the direct correlation there around affordability and employability and again it links back in to people from ethnically diverse backgrounds as well because employability is a real challenge as well so affordability comes into it there and you know we know that Muslim women and men were hardest tip with Covid as well so the health inequalities are getting greater we need places for people to go and participate in sport we're finding challenges with that and it's just really to make everybody in the room aware that that if we don't do something these health inequalities are just going to get greater and greater and it's a plea you know it's that income versus and and if you get two or three women together with disabilities in the want to grow program that's cut short because it's the programs the the facilities aren't working their face and that's that's a barrier that is a barrier thank you my first question and I just want to one word answer if that's okay and I might just go down the line do you hold data of the ethnicity of people who are in your organization so Heidi can I participate in sport in your organization not across the board no Lynn I assume that you don't worry you don't have that same it would depend on the program that are delivering and whether it was part of the processes the evaluation that we were doing so yeah we will have elements of that within the work that we do you do you do so you know I've asked many different people the same question from elite sport through to other areas and the answer invariably is no they don't hold records so if we don't know the ethnicity linear groups exceptional if we don't know the ethnicity of our women who are participating in sport how could we how can we know how to do better I think the basic information is a key for providing the right response part of our work is a something called intake assessment process when we need to gather basic information to provide a safe service getting to know the ethnicity as an integral part of bringing trauma sensitive person centered approaches we do not offer only free counseling in 26 languages but we follow the individual needs the intake assessment doesn't give us only information about the family status social inclusion ethnicity but it identifies the individual needs after the process of provided service is it advocacy befriending counseling therapy walking therapy no matter of what the person will define is needed we will follow up the feedback and the feedback is just bringing a solid evidence of how well we did but also how the service has made an impact of every individual person but then when we put the statistics via ethnicity let's say for Ukrainian ladies we can clearly identify which kind of activity works the best which kind of service is the most accurate for this certain group so I believe gathering basic information should be a part of every organisation work and actually something you said earlier but I don't think I want to highlight again you said that the culture is different so you highlighted Ukrainian women you highlighted Muslim women but we're also talking about different types of Muslim women you're talking about all the different ethnic groups are different and the data you collect will help you one of the things that there are two big things that I would like to ask about one is encourage how do we encourage more ethnic women into just doing some sport whether that be the gym or participation but then also how do we then get these women to be elite women so Lynn because your organisation has the data can I ask you first yes sure yeah it goes back to the voice it goes back to the opportunity it's that supported participant centered approach and working in partnership with agencies so that we can increase the reach but it goes back to the imagery the language the relatable opportunity you know whether it's the gym that people go to and it's women only so and it has to be fun that's the biggest thing it's fun and social and I think that's something that's been missed from the conversation today it has to be fun it has to be social and then it's about that opportunity to then dip your toe in a club or an appropriate competition in disability sport we support people into to access and competition access and opportunity and we've had some good examples in the past where we've worked with Scottish women in Scottish athletics where it's female only camps we bring people together and then what comes from that is peer support and then there's also an element of rivalry there as well in terms of progressing within the sport so for me it's partnership working it's participant centered approach it's listening to the individual and putting in place what they need to progress there's there's I think I think there's a whole variety of it's a very complex landscape to look at and we have to understand as we've said earlier about the needs of particular groups and how we engage and we need to start young you know we need to be thinking of it not sometimes we have to react to situations because we become aware of a need and we respond to it we need to start to be much more prevented and much more proactive at earlier stages so that that is a focus of where where we go the other aspect I think is is also recognising what is that need and what are the barriers to participation for particular groups because we can't take a blanket approach to that we have to be very specific with particular groups and see where their need is and respond to that appropriately and as part of that we also have to empower young women women to see themselves in particular places as well I think that's really important because in our research and in the feedback that we've received from women is that that sense of impact on self-belief self-confidence and self-worth are huge markers so the stigma that's associated for mental health for women and that experience of that are barriers that are preventing people young women and women seeing themselves in particular places so if we are going to really empower that we have to think at earlier stages we have to think about being proactive about that we have to think the language that she is we have to think about how we create those environments that are exclusive that are beyond just as I said earlier a policy that is intentional in your approach to do that and again if we look at what others have said in the panel how we educate how we connect and the way that we design programmes by the people that we are trying to support in this case young women and women has to be a big player in that and earlier on one of the things that was spoken about was that was the idea of role models we have to shine a light on role models that people can relate to and see and help them to understand not just what their story is but how they then got to a place that they are so that more young women and women can see themselves in that space as well so it's a very complex area but and there is work that's going on and we continue to need to enhance that work and we need to grow that work and we need to involve people in that space. Thank you. I just want to go back to data there for a second great question thanks for much for highlighting it. I want to clarify as well it's not that we don't care about that data at all that's not why we don't collect it and we do collect it when it's relevant so I suppose that we come from a place of trust you know we work with groups of people who are not always out in their sport settings or who aren't out to to the people that are around them or they maybe have only shared their sexuality maybe not their gender identity so we really come from a place of trust and we don't want to always ask lots of questions for the safety yeah sorry can yeah so what I'm saying is that we aren't asking questions that aren't necessarily always important to that specific piece of work so as you say often you're ethnicity is out there so therefore in the terms of our delivery it's not always important for us to ask that straight up however my point in that is that I don't always think that it's our responsibility as third sector organisations to have all of that data and have the relevant data of course it's important for us to ask it and we use it for lots of different pieces of work that we do ourselves we're just starting a project that's for lgbtiq refugees and asylum seekers and in that project it's very important for us to know more about the background of the people that are participating and we need a bit more detail in that sense however for someone to come join a volleyball session on a monday night it's not always important because they don't need to give us lots of information actually sometimes it's enough that we just get their first name and maybe a contact detail and that's it so therefore there are some instances where asking lots of information about their demographic and characteristics isn't relevant however i think we need to put more onus on governing bodies or sport scotland for example to bring up that data and making sure that they are asking those kinds of questions so that we know that they are recording the participation levels of different groups and therefore we'd be able to benchmark it against the percentage that maybe takes part in our groups or in others as well we also in terms of sorry who wants to come in with a brief supplementary which might tie in with some of us thank you thanks convener it actually might just tie in with what you're saying Heidi about the data the scottish government does have data it's the active scotland outcomes indicator equality analysis data and when you go through it it is very complicated because it lists seventy thousand seventy seven thousand people in scotland describing the religion as muslim sixteen thousand hindus other religions fifteen thousand buddhist thirteen thousand and i won't go on but it basically says when you combine them all that's still less than three percent of the overall population so it is really difficult to kind of take apart all this aggregate data but i think Heidi's point about how important is that when it's at grassroots level that we need to engage and develop folk is that what's important is getting out there and getting in about the communities and supporting people to participate in whatever sport they choose providing services for female survivors of trauma safeguarding comes as a first especially when we focus on ethnic minorities woman if we are meant to work in a partnership we need to make sure we share information about other partner organisation which are safe for our beneficiaries if that makes sense so i believe that transparency and detail gathering of basic information is vital for your for all of ours credibility trust recognition and quality of services and the three percent shown on the statistic i believe maybe the the percentage would be higher if more information could be gathered i'm i hope that makes sense is there anything you want to add when you can keep it brief just just quickly i will just two things sport scotland are starting to gather information around equality statistics and ethnicities included ethnicities included within that and just to say and this is an area where we're trying to do better and we're working with a consultancy called livestream consultancy he's coming in we have 14 member branches we're gradually working our way around about them and it's about coming in and educating our branches and their volunteers around different cultures and how we can engage better with with different groups across the country and some of that is is they are giving us the connection to the local groups and some of that's housing associations where we can go in and make connections and because sometimes they're the one stop shop for lots of different communities so we are trying to make a difference in this space so it's just to to make sure we do that okay thank you we're getting a bit tight for time so we've got two more themes to go on so if people can keep their answers short please and questions caram walking thanks thanks thank you very much i mean links in my question is about sort of social economic factors and social economic deprivation and learn i think your points were well well made so i just wonder if there's anything that yourself anything else yourself or other panel members would maybe want to highlight to us in order that we can maybe put some thought into how we help with this yeah we we know there's that natural correlation between disability and poverty we know that 47% of households who are living in poverty have someone with a disability living within it and so for the school the school is crucial for us and trying to access kids and go back to jillian's point earlier about you know where do we we reach different groups it's not just real chair users and we have to work with education we have to work in partnership and it's about that activity inclusion model bring to the table what that individual needs and sometimes it's about finding equipment it's about accessing funds so that they can access physical activity and sport is there anything particular to women and girls do you think or is it more a general point but do do we find there's some social economic factors that specifically affect women and girls yeah after you okay yeah well i think you know obviously benefits as well so we're females who have left school and we know that the drop-offs 14 but sometimes there's two things there's affordability once you're a female and you've got responsibilities and the other thing is around opportunities to come back into physical activity in sport aren't always there for women with disabilities so yeah and the affordability comes into it as well i think it's also to look at the place where there's a woman residing so all the rural places also places like more deprivated than others there is a massive restriction not only about the finances but also about the public transport the ladies very often are either scared of the safety or are not able to access so when we focus on the rural places there is just simply no accessibility provided when we look at the ladies we work with women in east at Easter house in Glasgow we just had a conversation the vast majority of the women do not participate in any sport activities they do not allow the girls to participate in sport activities because that is necessary to use a public transport which after darkness is not the safest moment most of the classes are held in the evening in a summertime is not an issue but the summer in here doesn't last for long so obviously very often giving a time like six seven eight o'clock for a mother for a child is unacceptable because the risk is too high so maybe by um i have no idea but maybe about creating a kind of safety of transportation gathering the communities together on the on the community level maybe that could bring a bit of higher participation in sport activities so helpful thank you to highlighted three particular areas that was significant in that area around poverty and barriers was the lack of available for an affordable childcare that enabled them to engage in sport and physical activity when that would be available and so forth affordable sports equipment and memberships to particular clubs and gyms and all these these particular things became a big area and again the transport particularly around safety you know leading a very busy life in terms of looking after children and then having to get public transport and that public transport being available and the safety of that going at certain times made it really difficult for women to participate in physical activity and sports at the time so there was that correlation between poverty and those other areas just last one for me care provision is that a huge factor for women with disabilities at the moment and we know the challenges being faced by health and social care partnerships across the country and it's absolutely vital to enabling women to access and children to access physical activity and sport thanks as wanted to come in briefly on this point can i'll come in very quickly I just wanted to say that there's picking up on Lynn and Robert about starting early and how there's a gender play gap from the age of five in girls and boys so girls girls move a lot less than boys do and they don't learn how to move their bodies in time and space so they're not rough and if you if you look at a playground that girls are not rough and tumbling they're not running they're not landing they're not throwing they're not and so they don't have they they are less mature physically in terms of their ability to move and so if you've got girls that their bodies don't feel good moving you then put them into puke world they then go into puberty and their bodies get longer and lankier and and they can't and it just feels even worse moving and this really exacerbates the the gender gap so the fact that we we it's not we have to really make sure that within the school setting we are specifically and we are intentionally teaching girls how to move their bodies well so that they then enjoy movement and then they have that they get much more of a desire to learn sport and I know that you know got all the social economic stuff layered on top of that but in terms of their physicality we can do a much better job within school teaching and coaching movement patterns we're going to move on to a final theme looking to the future and I'll pass to Stephanie Callaghan hopefully to fit in so looking to the future I need to mention the community approach that North Lancer Council are taking so they're looking at community hubs that are alongside schools early learning childcare they're looking at actually having them located alongside different activities like libraries cafes exercise so it's like keep the mums here afterwards and actually bring them in and get them involved and also in developing new activities that are around their own interests there and I think Evelina you mentioned about developing sessions like for example the roller skating that came from people who had an interest in doing it there so I'm wondering you know we had Rudy our back as well from Scottish Rugby in one of the previous sessions that we had to and he was talking about actually changing the rules to suit and work in with women and what they wanted to do and I'm wondering if perhaps that's something that really needs to start in schools and how do we stop those women and girls dropping out early in secondary schools and specifically those affected by other inequalities too? When we learn the most when we are a child this is we are like a sponge and I believe if we focus on the youngest and on the right approach if we will bring the model rule of the coach of a people who becoming a walking evidence of what we talk about if that person is well trained fully aware of the importance of a young girl participate in a sport sharing the benefits I believe it's much easier to make the young population be happy about participation and when you are passionate about something it's hard for you to resign after first mistake so I think the approach is very important if we do not come as a something what becomes mandatory but you actually show this is not because you have to do this is something what you may love with the giving a time for the young girls and your females to get to know if they like it so what Robert said what Lynn mentioned listening but not only listening prior providing the opportunity but giving the opportunity with letting them to withdraw from it without any consequence consequences by providing different opportunity no fits everyone but sometimes the trial period is great what I love I love the taster sessions why because that led me to really specify if I like it or not and sometimes young girls they have different expectations they join certain activity and they don't find it really enjoyable or they found it not what they would like to be and they feel gilded they feel embarrassed they cannot really feel comfortable to share their feedback because they don't know so maybe if we could just ease the pressure just bring some excitement passion so the passionate well qualified people is a key I believe so if I can just stay with you there and then maybe others can come in with my second questions there as well it's great to hear you talking about fun and enjoyment because really that's where it all starts and that's where the motivation is there and we have focused quite a lot on sport but health activity out with sport is incredibly important as well and in Vienna for example all government agencies are required to have a strategic plan and initiative that's about equitable policy and they have a gender mainstreaming model and the research has found for example that girls age nine and upwards barely use parks at all and that's been adopted as well by lots of other countries like Berlin, Barcelona, Stockholm and Copenhagen so I'm wondering if you think this is something that we should really be looking at and considering having that type of model that's about a holistic approach there that focuses on gender alongside race, disability, mental health etc is well there so I'm happy for you to answer until I can open up to anyone else. Building diverse equal community I don't believe exclusion is something what should happen holistic approach has a special power reducing any tenses of lack of understanding so providing equal approaches is definitely important. I believe this is again about creating the inclusive community and if there is a voice mentioning the the need of full inclusion I would say why not of course but if there is importance of creating sub community which would maybe not find comfortable everything it's it's worth to listen to them as well but holistic approach is a great tool definitely. I think having a material point keeping people involved it's about education it's about we know policy as everybody gets included within PE but does that actually happen in practice we still unfortunately hear instances where that doesn't happen for people with disabilities but to answer your second question I think it's that we need to go across sectors it's not just sport we need to work across health education local authorities trusts third sector organisations and for us to achieve our vision in Scottish disability sport of a welcome and inclusive Scottish sport and society to paraphrase we need to work across all sectors we need education across all sectors and we need the policy and strategy to back that up. I'm mindful that we've not got much time left there at all we tend to design for the default meal because of who's in positions I suppose about that I'm really really interested in is the fact that there's actually a gender mainstreaming policy that all the government departments have to use for the strategic plans etc there as well and that includes wider inequalities too is that something that we think that we should perhaps be centring on that could be helpful yeah if you don't have it in policy you don't have it in the strategy it gets lost in the operational plans then the resource doesn't even come in to back it up and make things happen so. Great thank you. On this question as well. Baz did you want to come in? Yeah sorry thank you. Yeah I absolutely think that we'll have to have a holistic approach and a comprehensive approach and you know Sport England said that they that to get Sport England funding you needed to work towards 30% female representation on boards and now all governing bodies that get Sport England funding have 30% female representation on their boards and it's the same happened with the research in America they said you know you're not going to be getting any research money unless you are studying females as well as males and suddenly everyone is now studying females alongside males which up until that point they were like oh it's too complicated to study females we'll just kind of apply what we've learned from the male population female population. So there isn't one fix we talked about kit we talked about facilities we talked about education we have to look at this whole we have to look at it as being a systemic change and really looking we call it through the female filter and looking at looking at sport and exercise participation through to podium or performance through that female filter and applying it to all aspects of this work and not just thinking there's a there's one thing that we can do so I think without a doubt in my mind we have to be holistic and comprehensive and mandate things but also you know do all the little things as well and sort of the carrot and the stick approach. Just before we finish up Tess White had a brief supplementary on one of the issues that we discussed earlier on. In fact it follows on what Baz was just saying so so Baz you've touched upon boards we've explored today the importance of role models whether they're role models female role models with disabilities or BAME and the importance of data. So in relation to coaches you said that most coaches and men how in your view do we shift the dial on this so we have more women and BAME and disabled and the cross section as leaders and coaches. Thank you. It's really how I've been a coach isn't it because it's generally weekends and it's generally evenings and that's often when you know if you have caring responsibilities you will be caring for those people that you are responsible for which predominantly is females and so I think we have to be looking at how can we support our workforce as well as those people as well as encouraging girls and women to be doing more sport and physical activity. So we are working with governing bodies to make sure that there is menopause policies in place that we are supporting that that that that we are creating supportive networks for females and and and you know giving them the leadership programs etc but actually it's creating the environments in which it's not it's not expected that they need to stick to this rigidity of the sporting structure so that kind of like well we have to train on a Tuesday night and a Saturday morning and you have to commit and you have to do everything it's being much more flexible in the approach to make sure that we've got more female volunteers and coaches supporting girls and women. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. For everything that you've been talking about participation in getting women into sport how much does social media play as a role that stops them and the reason I'm going to give that is take your eyes of women's football every image you see on social media and every young woman uses it tick tock and everything and they could name one Aston Villa player which is always on it right it's an image that you are not portraying just now to encourage women into sport and even the equipment they're wearing like 250 pound predator football boots which in areas of deprivation young girls and women are just not going to be able to afford so how much is that social media play a role in discouraging women into sport and in some levels I think I was back to the point about some of those solutions that we were reflecting upon across across the panel and the importance of who those role models are the way that those role models recognising that they don't play a further part in driving the gap of inequalities across across our communities so I think those are significant we have to be able to tell different stories alongside those stories because some of those social media images actually do encourage other young women to take part because they see it and they have a dream and they have a hope and we need to nourish that and we need to empower that I think we need to work with role models and able to look at the message that is there and how that that comes across and to recognise that whilst that idea of what have taken your your your point about 250 pound boots for example yes that might be there but other images have different experiences in there where we take imagery we were working with public health Scotland recently on a campaign with sport Scotland and one of the things that we looked at was imagery and we looked at photos that were in places across the country that represented different places where people lived and that was a really concise and decisive decision that we made to do that so I think there's a real opportunity for us to find real solutions where we can share imagery that is representative of the diversity of of Scotland and represents different groups across our country thank you and can I just ask one final question because we didn't quite cover this when we were talking earlier about lgbtq plus participation in sport so I suppose it's specifically to Heidi so do you think that sport and physical activity are welcoming for lesbian women for for bi women and how do we ensure that they feel included within a sports and physical activity environment I really want to say yes they feel really welcome and they feel really included however that's not always what we hear we hear that about half of lesbian women aren't out in the sport that they play but we also hear that only a quarter of bisexual women that are out in the sport that they play so that's actually not very many and the reasons for that is simply that the stereotypes that come alongside being out in sport is that you are that you must be a lesbian if you take part in specific sports and we hear from women in the groups that we work with that they weren't out when they were younger because they didn't want to be branded a lesbian or they didn't they were worried that people would assume that their sexuality that they'd been turned or that people if they joined their team knowing that these women were lesbians that they would then also become a lesbian if they joined the team so I think there's a there are some clear barriers in the stereotypes that follow physically active women in that sense and that doesn't just affect lesbians and bisexual women it affects those who are potentially also on the teams of these women in that sense and I really want to come back to some of the comments about coaches and how we could get more women to be coaches and being those sorts of roles and we've heard from some of the people that we work with there's a woman we'll work with who's a football coach for young girls and she really wants to do this job really well because she's aware that there aren't very many like her she's a woman with a diverse sexuality and she she wants to do really well and she doesn't want to make sure that people are aware she doesn't want people to necessarily know that that she's got a sexual irritation that's not straight however the girls keep asking about it and she's getting complaints from parents saying you don't need to shove your sexuality down our girls throat because they are already at danger of becoming a lesbian for taking part in football so it's those sorts of instances that aren't going to make women more likely to become a coach and if they are already feeling like they can't be out in the sports that they play then why would they ever become a coach because their whole life would be centered around those sorts of stereotypes and escaping those can be really really challenging so there's definitely something about the media and the social media that we use and the imagery that we use around the people that are coaching. Women's football is coached by men for the majority of it you know we see great women leaders who are who we're doing that but there's definitely a lot of work to be done in the inclusion of LBTI women in that space. Thank you very much to the panel today and including Baz online. You've made a very valuable contribution to the committee's inquiry and you can now leave as we continue your meeting. You don't need to wait. So at our meeting next week we'll continue your inquiry into female participation in sport and physical activity and undertake further scrutiny of NHS boards and that concludes the public part of our meeting today.


All right, so the question is which of the propositions are forced? So the proposition rationality requires That you eliminate known contradictions. Yeah, that's forced against rationality does not require That you resolve known contradictions, right? If one is true the others false those two are forced against each other Okay, there is a moral order is forced against there is not a moral order So far so good, right? This is pretty straightforward if there is a more order well It's possible. There is no more order if there's no more order when then it's possible. There is a more Not so hard Next one though, so we have rationality we have morality Some things that exist are physical Well of the set That we have so far nothing is forced against it It can be true and everything else can also be true Have we seen so far? It can be forced against nothing is physical. All right, Barclay right Barclay's vintage, but we didn't I didn't put that on the list I don't think we seriously need to get said So some things that exist are physical. That's not forced against anything Some things are Non-physical is forced against nothing is is non-physical or another everything is physical So some things are non-physical is forced against everything is physical. These two are forced against each other Okay, what do we have next? There is some sort of divinity and there is not divinity these two are forced against each other There is some sort of a there is not some sort of divinity. Isn't it nice that I put the forced ones right next to each other All right next one knowledge requires consensus versus knowledge does not require consensus right these are forced against each other There are some absolute truth versus there is no absolute truth these two are forced against each other Some minds are non-physical Versus all minds are physical these two are forced against each other and the last one's a little tricky right, so we have There's an existence before physical birth there's an existence after physical death right the disjunction of those two right either at least One of these is true that disjunction of those two is forced against there is no existence outside of physical life There's no existence inside of So those are the forced ones. All right, so we've gone through live. We've gone through forced Next we have momentous


Fellow St. Lucians, the Cabinet of Ministers has taken the advice of the COVID-19 Management Centre and a wide cross-section of the St. Lucian Society on the COVID-19 protocols. We have taken a decision to review all aspects of the current protocols in order to bring normalcy to our activities while at the same time protecting the health and well-being of our nation. You may recall, on January 30, 2020, the World Health Organization, WHO, declared the COVID-19 outbreak a public health emergency of international concern. St. Lucia implemented border closures, increased surveillance at the ports and healthcare facilities, the setup of quarantine facilities, the procurement of supplies, early detection and testing capacity, and access to care was provided for at the various respiratory centres and the respiratory hospital. As of August 26, 2022, St. Lucia has diagnosed 28,730 cases of COVID-19 in our country, with approximately 117 active recorded cases currently. Unfortunately, we have recorded 391 COVID-19 deaths to date, and St. Lucia continues to register new cases on a daily basis. The COVID-19 vaccination rate remains below standard at 30%. Children can access vaccines at all of the wellness centres, and they are also available for children from five years old. The Ministry of Health led a national effort with other sectors and partners, both public and private, and together managed six waves of COVID-19. Three years later, the country has strengthened its public health capacity to safely manage COVID-19, and the response has been integrated into the regular infectious disease programme. The following changes to the protocols will take effect from September 5, 2022. General protocols. The physical distance and mass crowd limitation protocol is removed. The capacity restriction on public transportation has been removed, but mask wearing is required. The hand sanitation and temperature checks on entry of business establishments is optional and at the discretion of the service provider. Full authorization is granted for the importation and use of rapid antigen tests. Business establishments reserve the right to implement public health measures as required. The face mask mandate. In general, the wearing of face masks is optional, but remains highly recommended to reduce the transmission of COVID-19. Face masks are mandated in the following circumstances, however. If one has tested positive for COVID-19 or has respiratory symptoms or is a direct contact of a positive case, if you are accessing general health services, if you are accessing police and fire stations, correctional facilities, elderly homes, if you are attending religious ceremonies where there are large crowds of people in close contact, educational institutions, in enclosed crowded environments, and accessing public transportation. For the educational sector, all school activities have been re-established with the strict enforcement of keeping sick children at home. The mask is mandated during assemblies and activities in schools with large numbers in enclosed spaces. They enhance cleaning and sanitation of schools to be maintained. Travel protocols. The testing and vaccination requirement for entry into St. Lucia is removed. Passengers would be required to fill out the health screening form for arrival into our country. We remind the public that although the measures are relaxed at this time, we want to encourage the return to normalcy. However, COVID-19 is still circulating in St. Lucia and remains a major concern. Given our low immunization rates and the growing evidence of long COVID, COVID-19 remains a public health threat. With the general relaxation of measures, personal responsibility becomes paramount. On behalf of the Prime Minister and the Cabinet of Ministers, I want to thank all the healthcare and other workers who continue to make tremendous sacrifices to keep our country safe. Thanks to the people of St. Lucia for your patience and cooperation during this difficult period. We have overcome adversity before, and we will come out of this challenge a stronger nation. I thank you.


So everyone today is Monday July 13th at 816 a.m. I'm gonna do a video watch this day So a couple things to make note of is it's Monday guys. Everyone has FOMO over the weekend Everyone's excited to trade. We got a lot of fucking crazy runners again So the key as always is to let the stocks extend pre-market Let them form their charts and we will attack when the top is set The fastest way to get fucked up in this market on the short side is to be shorting these stocks very early pre-market We have stocks are up 200 percent 300 percent 400 percent It doesn't matter if they go down one or two dollars in pre-market because they're gonna go down five dollars at the Open so please use this advice to stay calm be patient and Remember that your goal as a trader is to trade when there is an edge not just because you are at the desk So let's start. W. I. M. I. This easy to borrow stock that we mentioned to avoid Did a perfect zombie move and just went straight up to heaven, right? Early pre-market it blew up everyone that held overnight went from 19 to fucking 38 and now back down to reality This is the type of stock that could wash out under 20 and go back to 30 if it really wants This is the type of stock that is above my pay grade This is the type of stock that is for the experts only I know what ballgame I'm a part of and that's the type of stock that I don't want to mess around with it is too risky and It's just not my cup of tea.  I don't want to get white hair I don't want to be stressed not not for me long or short avoid EQ this is easy to borrow stock, right? So W. I. M. I was easy to borrow last week as well This is easy to borrow to so I mean if I just want to keep this very simple, right? If I want to keep it a very simple 1250 line, right? probably 12 line 1150 11 and 1050, right? So I'm using the whole and half dollar marks only on EQ. So in a perfect world This EQ washes out under 10 bounces 1050 1150 121250 whatever I'm gonna scale and then my stock obviously is gonna be high the day So this is the type of stock that I want to nail and bail only I don't want to stay around long on this because it's an easy to borrow stock Ecore very similar. This is a potential hot chick of the day Let it extend pre-market. Let it show its trend if it gets pumped Let it get pumped all we're doing is we're waiting for this to tank and then we will short the bounce The bigger the tank is the less powerful the bounce will be B.O. XL.  Hopefully WKHS Had a price upgrade today. I guess I mean if we look at the resistance You can see that 16 line and 1650 are the levels to watch. So I'm gonna be watching 16 and 1650 to short PSV. This is a broken chart again. Very simple 190 $2 a whole dollar mark and two to 10 So I mean it's pretty straightforward day guys as long as we stay safe as long as we avoid the hot chicks of the Day we will be fine again EQ is easy to borrow so do not be fooled if it washes out to seven and thinking it's gonna go to five This has the ability to rebound WMI shorts are stuck. This has the ability to rebound look for the broken stocks B.O. XL is broken WKHS is broken Look for the broken stocks and short the pop guys So that's it at the end these videos I do a secret word to make sure that everyone is watching till the end today's secret word is gonna be Monday So that's it guys. I will see you guys in the room and that's it


Robert Hansen, a former FBI counterintelligence officer who spied for Moscow, was found dead in a maximum security prison in Florence, Colorado on Monday. Hansen 79 has been serving a life sentence since 2002 after pleading guilty to 15 counts of espionage. He had received more than 1.4 million dollars in cash, diamonds and money paid into Russian accounts. His case was investigated by 300 agents, according to BBC. Due to his role in counterintelligence, he gained access to classified information and began sending materials to Moscow in 1985, becoming an FBI officer on 12th January, 1976. The investigation into Hansen was initiated after the arrest of spy Algrik Spyhason Ames in 1994 when the FBI released the classified information was still being leaked. Hansen was caught red-handed in 2001, one month after he began working at FBI headquarters, where hidden cameras and microphones were installed.


She has do not have a unique opinion towards the companions of the holy prophet of Islam, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and his purified progeny. Based on the relative authenticity and interpretations of the transmitted traditions, some arrive at different conclusions. Which tradition is more authentic and which has the correct meaning is debatable. However, tonight's episode is an attempt to provide what is considered to be the typical Quranic position in this regard. Respect the viewers, brothers and sisters in Islam. As-salamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Welcome to the ninth episode of Life from Karbala Ramadan series with Amir host Ahmad Ali. This very controversial topic will be examined by my dear guest and my esteemed guest who has joined me once again in tonight's episode. Sayed Hussain Al-Qazweeni. So, talk to him. As-salamu alaikum Sayedina. How are you? Alhamdulillah, Rab ibn Al-Alamin. A juma'in, may Allah SWT, great in your reward, especially in the month of Ramadan. Sayedina, as-shi'a we divide the companions of Prophet Muhammad into three categories. Number one, we have the companions who are obedient and they followed Allah SWT and the holy prophet to every letter, not every word. To every letter, to that extent. And gave everything they have for the sake of Allah, for the sake of the prophet, and for the sake of Islam. And were always supportive of the prophet. Number two, we have those who were Muslim but not sincere in their acts. And the third category, we have those who became apostates after the prophet's death, after the prophet's demise. However, some believe that all of the companions were perfect, pious, righteous, noble, and all are in heaven. While others believe that all companions were doomed in hell, oppressive and evil. Now, how does the Qur'an view Sahaba objectively and biasly? How does the Qur'an view that? I seek refuge with Allah from the accursed Satan. In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds. And peace be upon our Sayedina Muhammad and his family, the good and the pious. The topic of the Sahaba and their virtue or their vice or their vices. It's one of those topics that has been debated for centuries. And I could say that many battles were shed because of this topic. Up until now, many people were killed, many people were persecuted on both sides. Whether you say that the Sahaba were bad or you say that all of the Sahaba were good, this has always been a controversial topic. The problem is, I think, is that many of our research papers or our books or our lectures or our discussions are not objective. They're not objective. They are very much biased. Many Sunni scholars, namely Salafi scholars, when they begin talking about Sahaba, immediately they feel they have to take the defensive position. Sahaba or a red line, I will defend them no matter what. Even if history proves to me that some of them drank and committed adultery and killed, I'm still going to defend them. Not just the Sahaba, but the Tabe'een, the second generation. You have the first generation which are the Sahaba, the first generation of Muslims, the second generation are the Tabe'een. Those who follow in the footsteps, which would include people like Yazid. There are some people that are willing to defend Yazid. On the other hand, you have some that will condemn all of the Sahaba, all of the Sahaba. They will say all of the Sahaba, after the Prophet, they became apostates. They left Islam. They abandoned Islam. They were oppressive to the family of Rasulullah and so on and so forth. So we have two extremes. And I think both groups are not being objective. They're not being biased. And I believe that the best way to develop a theory and to reach the truth is to see what the Quran says. Definitely, that's the best solution. And one of the topics that the Quran discusses thoroughly is the topic of the Sahaba. Because they were there with the Rasulullah, many verses were addressing them. A lot of verses mention the qualities of the Sahaba. Why don't we come to the Quran? Yes, definitely. And let the Quran be the best of judges. As with the previous topics, I won't mention any hadith from Al-Kafi or Bihar Al-Anwar. Because these narrations are good for me. A person who doesn't accept Al-Kafi will not accept. And I won't bother bringing narrations from Bukhari and Muslim and others, even though I can. And there's plenty of narrations to bring from those books. Let's stick to the Quran. Let's stick to the Quran. Let's see what the Quran says. If you want to go into the Quran, there are several verses in the Holy Quran that praise the companions of the Holy Prophet. Take, for example, Chapter 48, Verse 29. Where Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala praises the companions due to their unity alongside the Holy Prophet. And He promises them forgiveness and great reward. Now, the question is, how do we interpret such verses? I mean, in the first part, it's good to keep in mind that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, in the first part of the verse, He says that all the companions are good. That means that they're pious, that they're righteous. The prostration mark is on their forehead due to their prostration to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. That's a good thing. Yet, in the second part of the verse, we see Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala making an exception from Him. So, how do we interpret these verses? Sure. The verse that you just mentioned in Surat Al-Fatih, Verse 29. The last verse, I believe? The last verse. Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those that are with Him. This is, let's stop here. Some scholars, some Sunni scholars, and mainly Salafi scholars, Salafi scholars will bring this verse.  You disrespect the Sahaba. Yet, the verse is saying, All of these good virtues, they are soft with the believers. They are tough with the non-believers. They prostrate, they perform sujood. They go after the reward of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. You can see in their forehead signs of sujood and prostration. Their signs have been mentioned in the Torah and in the Anjil. A great group of people. How can he disrespect them? First of all, we don't disrespect anyone. We follow the Zahil Bayt. We give each person the value that that person deserves. We give each person the respect that that person deserves. Absolutely. We don't humiliate or disrespect. We give each person his own value. But let's be honest, some do disrespect a lot. Well, let's see why do they disrespect. Maybe it's not disrespect. Maybe when you call a janitor a janitor, is that disrespectful? No.  Why don't you call a doctor a janitor? Because a doctor is not a janitor. He cures people. So if you call a janitor a janitor, you're not disrespecting the janitor.  Now that's a different topic. Let's come to the verse. We don't mean any disrespect or humiliation. Let's see what the verse is trying to say. Okay. Muhammadur Rasulullah. And those who were with Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. There's two kinds of being. This is those who were with Rasulullah. What do we mean by they were with Rasulullah? There were some Jews in Madinah. Hippocrates. There were Hippocrates in Madinah. Were they with Rasulullah? Were they with? This Ma'iyah is a special kind of Ma'iyah. That means those that were with Rasulullah day and night, during the good times and during the bad times, during hardships and during ease, they were with him whenever he wanted them. They would not abandon him. At the tough times, they stood with him. Who were they? In the battle of Ahud, we see that all of the Sahaba ran away, except five. Except five of them. Is this Muhammadur Rasulullah and those with him? And the battle of Hunayn, they ran away. Rasulullah is in the middle of the battlefield. We'll mention a verse regarding that. Didn't he get injured in that battle? I don't know if he got injured or not, but he was in the front lines. They left Rasulullah. And this is one of the greatest sins. Definitely. By both Sunni and Shi'a scholars. Both schools of thought agree that believing the battlefield is one of the greatest sins. Let alone leaving Rasulullah in the battlefield. Yes. Is this with Rasulullah and those with him? I don't know if that means... Yes. The ones that were with Rasulullah all the time, we accept. They were great people. Like Ali Ibn Abi Talib. He was always with Rasulullah. But the verse is not saying day and night. It's just with him. But this is what is understood. Muhammadur Rasulullah and those with him. Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. And those with him are such and such and such. Who is the verse trying to talk about? Those loyal companions. It's not a broad term. This is one. Yes. Two. These are specific qualities. They are soft with the believers. They are tough with the non-believers. These are general qualities. These are qualities. These are qualities. They're not general qualities. I'm sorry. They're specific qualities. Rasulullah had over 100,000 people that saw him. And the Sunni school of thought, they say that anyone who met or spoke to Rasulullah is a Sahabi. Wow. That makes over 100,000 more. A minimum of 100,000 people are part of the Sahaba. Abu Sufyan spoke to them properly. Abu Sufyan, others, do they all have this quality? That's logically not possible. For over 100,000 people to have these exact qualities, impossible. Impossible. That's not logical. That's the verses talking about a specific group. Not everyone. Plus, some of the Sahaba, they were easy. They were soft with the believers and tough on the kafar. On the contrary, we see the opposite. We see the opposite. We see that some of the Sahaba, they were tough on the believers. Read about Uthman ibn Affan. And what he did with Ammar ibn Yasir. Yes. With Ammar ibn Yasir, he beat him. He beat him in a specific spot. He almost killed him. This is a Mrowuj al-Dahab. And inshallah, I plan on doing a biography on Uthman ibn Affan, as I did on the life of Abu Bakr and Ammar ibn Khattab. Allah should do a biography on Uthman ibn Affan and mention some of his deeds and actions. Yes. He was tough. What did he do with Abu Dhar when he sent him to Al Rabada? He punished him. He punished Abu Dhar. One of the greatest companions. One of the greatest companions. Is this, He found it and turned away. In one of my discussions at Muharram, I proved that this verse is regarding Uthman ibn Affan. Not Rasulullah. While some believe that this is Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa alaihi. And the verse, Al-A'ma is Ibn Ummak Tum, a blind man. One of the companions of Rasulullah. Uthman found and he turned away. When the blind man came to him. Is this Rahama'a between them? So who is the verse he is talking about? All of the Sahaba? Some of the Sahaba, they definitely were not Rahama'a between them. They were not merciful with the believers. Did all of them have this quality? The place of prostration is on their forehead. Did all of the Sahaba have this? Let's look. You know, I'm astonished to see some, they used this verse to say all of the Sahaba have this quality. Historically look. How many of the Sahaba they had these qualities? See mahum fi wujuhim min athar al sujood. That you can see the place of prostration on their forehead. Go look and then come and say this verse is talking about this person and that person and that person. The verse is not saying all of the Sahaba of Rasulullah had these qualities. Some of them, some of them had these qualities. That's fine. We accept. We accept that some of the Sahaba plus, and then as you mentioned, there's an exception. The end of the verse is very important. I don't know why. They don't read the end. They don't read the end of the verse. Allah has promised those who believe and done good deeds from them. That means not all of them believe. That means not all of them did good deeds. Some of them did. Aamun wa aamun us-salihati minhum. Naqfiratun wa ajran al-azima. That means some of them did not believe. Some of them did not do good deeds. Minhum, this is min tab'eeziya. Some of them, those who believed and did good deeds from them, from the Sahaba. From those who were with Rasulullah. Allah has promised them forgiveness and great reward. It's very clear, minhum. This is one verse that our friends use to say that Allah swt is pleased with Allah swt. And this is a testimony that Allah swt are great. Another verse, possibly one of the first verses that are used to try to justify that all of the Sahaba are righteous, is this. Surah Al-Hadeed, verse 10. They say that the verse is saying, before the conquest, there are some people that fought. And spent money for the sake of Allah. That spent money for the sake of Allah and fought for the sake of Allah. And there were some that fought and spent money after the conquest. The verse is saying those who spent and fought before the conquest, are better than the ones who fought and spent money after the conquest. Which conquest is this? There's various opinions. Some say the conquest is Surah Al-Hudaybiyyah, Al-Fatih. Because the peace treaty Al-Hudaybiyyah was considered a conquest. Either that or the conquest of Mecca. The first is trying to say that before the conquest, Islam was still weak. Those who came and fought and spent and things didn't look so good for Islam. They were better than the ones that came and fought and spent after the conquest when things were looking good for Islam. Your friends, which friends are more loyal to you? Before reaching a big position or after reaching a big position? Definitely the ones who helped you. Before you became a president, those friends who helped you reach that position, you're not going to forget them. Because they were friends with you before you reached that big position. Not the ones that came to you now that you're president. They're less sincere. So the verse says, But both groups, Allah has promised something good. So does that mean that both groups are in heaven? They say that the verse is trying to say that Allah has promised both groups heaven. Do we need to take a break? Insha'Allah, we'll continue this and see if all the companions are pious and noble. But that's after the break, Sayyidina. So respected viewers, do stay tuned after the break for we will, insha'Allah, prove the nobility of the companions of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. That's after the break, stay tuned. But before the break, we talked about and discussed examples from the Holy Quran regarding the companions of Prophet Muhammad and regarding their nobility and faithfulness towards the Prophet. Back to the discussion with my dear guest, Sayyid. Sayyid, welcome back. Have you said anything? Thank you very much. Before the break, we brought an example from chapter 48, verse 29. And we said that not all the companions are included in this verse because we do see that also hypocrites attach themselves to the Prophet. Yet no Muslim ever named or entitled those hypocrites as the people who are included in this verse. So we moved on to a different verse, which you were mentioning regarding both the people or the companions who before the conquest of Mecca or the Treaty of Arabia are the same or they have the same reward as the people who followed after. So if you can continue. The verse was saying that those who spent and fought before the conquest, before the Fatiha have a greater reward than those that fought after and spent. However, وكل لن وعد الله الحسنة. So one has more greater reward yet both? Both. Allah SWT has promised good things. They're both rewarded, but they're both. Allah SWT, both of them, Allah has promised good things. This group is better than that group, but both will be rewarded. وكل لن وعد الله الحسنة. They say see. وكل لن وعد الله الحسنة. Allah has promised all of the Sahaba a good reward, meaning paradise and jannah. However, they are overlooking something very important. Are they? The verse doesn't say that everyone fought and everyone gave and spent money. وكل لن وعد الله الحسنة. Yes. كل لن وعد الله الحسنة. But not all of the Sahaba spent and fought. Some of the Sahaba they fought. Some of the Sahaba spent money. But if we look in history, we can say that all of them, not all of them fought in all battles, but some did fight at battles. Yes. And those who spent money before the conquest and after the conquest, Allah has promised both of these groups. وكل لن وعد الله الحسنة. But not all of the Sahaba spent money. Some of them were poor. Not all of the Sahaba fought. Many of them did not fight. Many of the Sahaba did not fight. Those who fought and those who spent money, كل لن وعد الله الحسنة. Whoever fought and spent money, Allah has promised a good reward. Proof that not all of the Sahaba spent the same exact words in the beginning. Why do you not give and donate from your money? Although Allah swt owns everything on the earth and in the skies. Allah is rebuking them. Why aren't you spending? Yes. This means that a great deal of Sahaba did not spend. They did not go into war. Okay. They're not willing to risk their lives. They're not even willing to risk their wealth. So Allah is rebuking them. And then Allah says that some of you who spent before the conquest are better than those who spent after the conquest. However, both of you will be greatly rewarded. Yes. So not all of the Sahaba. Before that, in verse number seven. This was verse number ten. In verse number seven. Again Allah is ordering them to spend. He's rebuking them. It's as if you can tell some Sahaba were not willing to fight. Nor give money. So if you're not willing to fight, at least sponsor a soldier. Let's let someone else fight, but sponsor him. Tell him I'll take care of you. I'll take care of you family members. Go and fight.  Some were neither willing to fight nor spend. Allah is rebuking them. It shows that it wasn't all of the Sahaba. Definitely not. Was some of the Sahaba that spent and fought? Yes. These people have a great reward. We agree? Definitely. And we do see that in the narration. I mean these nights we commemorate the martyrdom of Lady Khadija. It's good to mention the narration. That she spent? She spent everything. She spent more than anyone else did. I don't know if someone spent that much. I don't know if someone spent that much. I don't know if someone spent that much. I don't know if someone spent that much. I don't know if someone spent that much. It was Khadija's money that God Islam uplifted. Yes, absolutely. Thank you for mentioning this. In another verse that they use to say that all of the Sahaba are great, is in Surah At-Tawbah verse 100. Yes. Right there there's an exception. They use this verse to say that all of the Sahaba are great, they're purified, they're noble, they're righteous. The verse is speaking about a handful of Sahaba. Not all of them. A group of them. A fraction of them. The early pioneers. Not all of the Sahaba. The early pioneers from the migrants, those who came from Mecca, and the helpers, the early pioneers of them, and those who righteously followed in their footsteps. Righteously followed in their footsteps. Who followed righteously in the footsteps of those Sahaba? These are signs. We leave that to the viewers to decide. Those who followed in the footsteps of the early Sahaba, those who sacrificed, those who left their homes, those who did not come to Islam for power, for inner motives, they didn't have a hidden agenda. This is what taba'uuhum bi-ahsan. Definitely. The early pioneers, they sacrificed everything for Islam. They didn't come to Islam for power. This is what taba'uuhum bi-ahsan. Those who, the righteous followers, رضي الله عنهم ورضوا عنهم. Allah has satisfied with them and they are satisfied with Allah. See? Another verse they mentioned. Surah Al-Fatih verse 18. لقد رضي الله عن المؤمنين إذا يبايعونك تحتل شجرة. فعلم ما في قلوبهم فأنزل السكينة عليهم وأثابهم فتحا قريبا. Allah has pleased with the believers when they gave you a legis under the tree. Is it al-sahabah? What is al-sاحabah? We gave a legis under the tree. Was it al-sahabah? Was it al-sahabah? Was it al-sahabah? Was it al-sahabah? Was it al-sahabah? Was it al-sahabah? Was it Al-sahabah? Maybe a couple dozen. Not in a half. A couple dozen of the Sahabah. Not many of them. This is one. Second, The believers. The believers. Not the followers. Not just whoever was there. And we know from the Sahaba there were believers and they were non-believers. Hippocrates. Hippocrates. As we shall see in a couple of minutes. Yes. There were Hippocrates among the lines of the Sahaba. You cannot deny this. This is in the Qur'an. And we shall see this in a little bit. And the believers. The believers. Allah is pleased with the believers. Tell me which one of them were the believers. I'll accept. If you buy a yawna kitah shudder. Furthermore. Let's say that Allah is calling all of the Sahaba believers. Even though this is not right. This is not a correct reading of the verse. Let's say the verses calling them all believers. If you buy a yawna kitah shudder. When? When. If you buy a yawna. When. Allah is pleased with them when they gave you allegiance. This is not a please. Eternal please. An eternal please. That they pleased Allah forever. No. He was pleased with them when they performed this act. When your son does a good act you're pleased. It doesn't mean you'll be pleased with him forever.