A very good entrepreneurship Tuesday morning to you. You are watching Why in the Morning, only on Y254 channel. My name is Hilda Wadidhi and I hope you did catch that interview with Juan Barrymore and Dream Adventures. So if you do have plans this Valentine's Day, you'd like to go somewhere special, I hope you were listening in. And all right, it's about time we delve into the Artrepreneur's life. If you do want to participate in the conversation at Y254 channel, the hashtag is Why in the Morning, hashtag entrepreneurship Tuesday, partly Twitter. And on Instagram, you can find us at Y254 underscore channel, on Facebook at Y254. And on YouTube, in case you miss any of the valuable insight here at Y254 channel. Now with me in studio, I have a very interesting group under My Tribe is Art. However, Light and Shades modeling agency is also featured here and we will tell you why shortly. But it's about time I allow my guests to introduce themselves. My name is Salfa. Sayama, good morning. Good morning. Good morning Kenya. Good morning Y254. My name is Salfa Akari and yeah, I'm part of the team, My Tribe is Art. I am an artist and I'm the campaign manager. Oh, great. Yes. Good morning. My name is Jeri Kinuthia. I'm a visual artist. I'm taking fashion design and I'm part of My Tribe is Art. Great. Good morning. My name is Sidwin Arianda. I'm the CEO of Light and Shades Models Academy and agency. And I'm also part of the crew and the coordinator for My Tribe is Art events planning. So I can understand, from what I'm seeing here, Art brought you guys together. Can I understand? Where did you guys meet and why did you decide Art is what you wanted to do as a group? Edwin? Well, I'm a fan of Art. I'm an enthusiast of Art. My Tribe is Art began in 2017. It started back in Coast, Voi, where we organized our first art exhibition. And it brought together artists from different parts of the country. It was surprising because majorly it featured artists from Nairobi. That's where we first met Jeri Kinuthia among other artists. But first forward to 2018, we did different segments including Dancing Savanna. We did a cultural festival that's done at Voi. Then we're coming to 2019 whereby we're organizing another art exhibition that will be in Mombasa at Allianz Fonse. And it's dubbed Safari Asana. Safari Asana. Yes. Jeri Kinuthia, I'd like to understand from you. This is actually your artwork that we are displaying over here. And I can see you have a special interest with ladies and animals. Sorry. I'd like to understand where this intriguing interest came from. Okay. I started drawing back in 2017 after I was inspired by a friend. And I started with portraits. And I really love drawing women. I love their beauty in them. And especially with an African touch or a print or the aphrods. And here are some of my pieces but I've done so many commission works including Michelle and Talaami for Marini Naturals Re-Launching. And since then this has been my style. And I'm doing a series of paintings inspired by Kesehri Harri head wraps which are going to be exhibited in Mombasa. Head wraps. Is that why you're wearing one today? Oh yes. Yes. So that's going to be part of my series in Mombasa. And then I'm now a love jewelry. So I'm coming up doing jewelry art too like what we have here. These brass coils on canvas. So it's one of my styles that I'm doing soon. Yes. I would like to understand. This is actually a question I'm going to direct to all of you. What message is it that you'd like to give with your work? What is the aim?  Because we are going to be seeing a sample of the art pieces that you've done. What is the message?  What are you imagining you'd like to send out there? Well, I am an acrylic painter. And my artworks revolve four themes in particular. I have Tell Her Dark Skin is pretty. And that comes from being inspired that... Love your melanin. Yes. Just love how you are. And then there's a cultural heritage whereby I look at different countries, Ugandan culture, Kenyan culture, Senegalese, all those people, and I see what makes them stand out. What are their cultures? And I draw maybe them doing a peace negotiation, something that is very... in particular uniquely about them. Then there's one I call Animal Paradise. I also paint animals. But in their paradise, if it's the jungle, if the lion is seen in a cave. And I do it with a lot of texture in my paint works. And the last one, which I came to learn I can do, was in 2017, whereby I am given a poem. It started out when a friend gave me a poem and told me interpret the poem into paint. So, yeah, that's what I do. I change poetry into paintings. Interesting. So you change the wording into an image. Ooh, I've never seen image poetry. I think that's what we would call it if it had a name. So you're passionate about culture, spreading the message of culture and being natural and ABCD. So for you, the aim of your work is to send that message. Interesting. Self and Yambura. Okay, Edwin, I'd like to hear from you. Your art is very different, because now you focus on actual individuals. Yeah, actually, times have changed. And most recently art was incorporated into the curriculum. Like in the past it was in the curriculum and it was scrapped off from 844 system. But you are glad it's back. We're just trying to show the world, or rather the future that art also has space, fashion has space, talent has space, and people can make a living out of their talents. They don't have to be smart in class and to be able to make a living. They don't have to be doctors, engineers, or other scientists to make a living. Also, art can pay. That's the major initiative of my Trebis art. And we are pushing so that at least artists can be able to sell their art. Yeah. Okay, okay. But you haven't exactly told us about your individuals. You know you have an agency where you manage people. I saw even an academy for that matter. So I'd like to understand even why they name light and shades. Like what was the message behind this? Okay, they name lights and shades. It was inspired by the highs and lows of life. We go through a lot of darkness, we go through a lot of light. Yeah, so that is the origin of the name, lights and shades. How many models do you manage? Because he and Jerry actually use them as ham use in some of our art pieces. We started way back when I was in school. We started with 20 models. By then we... 20 models. Yes. Those are a lot. Wow, ambitious. And we just handpicked them. We see a lady walking, we see a gentleman walking while you are in school. Would you have picked me? Just ask him. Anyway, carry on. Well, we identify talent and we tell them, yes, you can do it. Can you join us? We started that way. Then we trained them. We at least organized shows for them. And lately we've done different shows and we are growing with the marketing, with the digital appearance. We are still growing. We have come from Mombasa. Now we are moving to Nakuru and now Nairobi. Yes. Okay, I like that. All right, Jerry. What is your message? What do you think about? What saturates your mind when you're doing your art pieces? What do you want people to know? Okay, mostly I do women. I've done a lot of women. And I'd like to pass a message that we are beautiful in all shades and all their appearances.  And that can be seen in my paintings. I used to have these bias towards Africans loving the dark skin too much and having kind of a resist attitude towards the white. But it came, I thought of changing that and I thought I could actually do a series where I can incorporate everyone. So you did not declare a war on light skin? Okay. No, I didn't. I didn't. Actually, you can see from that and another painting here. Yes. I got a collection of models and I, from the internet including some of them are not here. But I got Chinese. I got a white. I got really, really dark skin and some are still works in progress. But that's what I want to pass a message that will be my message that all shades are beautiful and you should appreciate women even in their natural hair like this lady. This girl here, Don, who was declared the most beautiful. Yes. So she inspired my painting. I love her Afro. And yeah, so instead of being biased towards Afros and the African look, I decided, well, I can do everyone. You know, you're so interesting because you're actually dressed accordingly. Your earrings even an Afro comb. Anyway, I want you to ask a question. I'm sure someone at home is curious about because it also picked my interest. In one of your art pieces here, I can see a lady and I can see some very detailed and colorful makeup. Can you do this in real life? Just ask it. Because these things are not easy. I get that a lot. My friends always ask me because when it comes to drawing, I love intricate designs and if it's makeup, I love the details. So can you do it on my face? I cannot do it on my face. Actually, I have trouble drawing my eyebrows. Mostly one will be higher or longer or thicker than the other one. But when it's me, my brushes and with my canvas, I do it so well. Okay. So I like the story and I like the fact that now the fans can understand the message behind the work that you guys are trying to do. But today is the spirit of entrepreneurship. So I'd like to understand how you guys built a career out of this and how sustainable this is. What was the plan? When you guys sat down and decided, okay, my tribe is art. We are going to do this. What was your plan? What was the strategy? Who can speak on that? Edwin? Okay. Well, as I've mentioned earlier, my tribe is art. It's just a language for the artist. We speak for the artist. We give artists a platform where they can at least showcase their talent. We have a very wonderful lady behind all these projects. Her name is Rachel. She's from Voi. She also lives in Norway. And she has been overseeing all these projects. And because of her support, at least we can be able to do some things for the artist. Some things that we will not be able to do as the youth population. What are these things we are not able to do? We would like to understand. Well, much of the things require finances. For instance, to look for money, you need to have money first. To put up that website up there, you need money. So you need someone to support you before you bring that website or rather that platform so that the artist can sell their art. To organize an event, it needs money. To bring people together, it requires money. So what is this plan? What is the strategy? Does Rachel do everything and then you bring the art? Not really. Actually, when planning an event, we try as much as possible to plan a zero-budget event. Oh, you really try to minimize the cost? Yes, because in the platform, we have a lot of talent. We have event organizers. We have photographers. We have videographers. We have every sort of talent in the platform, many of which are not here. So the people that will have been hired to bring people together to organize an event, that costs our channel to something different. The photographers, that maybe the money will suppose to channel it to doing photography or videography, we use that money to do something else. So we are minimizing the cost. Another thing, Alliance Fonsec came through for us, because suppose you are to hire a venue, it's also expensive. So we're just trying to use our talents to sell the other talents that we have, that is art. So you're actually doing a lot of lobbying with a lot of conversations and what is butter, butter trade? Yes. Okay, we'll make sure you use them. Yes.  Aside from only finances, I think what he has talked about is also the fact that we have a lot of connections. What she has brought Rachel Wally is networking. And not only for, it's giving a platform for upcoming artists and also the practicing artists and also those who are high up in the ladder to be able to connect up and down the ladder so that the one who's above can be able to mentor the one who's below and the one who's below is able to see how I can make something out of this. Because it's actually a very common question about whether emerging artists should be allowed to showcase their work in a place where big, or what can I say, known artists are showcasing their work. It's actually a big question in the world of art and I can see you've already answered it. You're trying to bridge that gap when it comes to those who have made it and those who are just joining in the market. So speaking of those who have made it, before I go back to your mentor, who are your biggest influences? Sorry, like in the art world. Jerry, you've been quiet. Let's start with you. Okay, I have some mentors. When he started painting, a very good known artist in the country gave me materials to start with and really inspired me. His name is Antoni Mwangi and he really mentored me. I also have another one called Kinutia. He has also exhibited in Kenya and beyond. He's actually international and he has really helped me draw and also to expand and try other styles and my parents have really supported me when it comes to art. My dad used to draw when he was younger and they've really supported me. Honestly, art materials, they cost pretty much. But they've supported me and really encouraged me and I told them I want to do art and it's going to be part of me. They were really supportive of me and I'm so grateful to them. So, they also inspire me. Okay. At least now we know a couple of your influences. What are your influences when you're handling your models when you began your academy? Who are your biggest influencers? Well, I can say much of the influence because I do much of fashion and modeling. I can say Victoria's Secret. Victoria's Secret? Selva, why did you make that face? Are you shocked? Continue? At least other models like Adele Ball. We have great artists. We have great models. So, apart from just exporting the talent to Europe, we can also have a platform that can give our inborn or other local boner models a platform to do their thing here in Africa. We cannot really export them to the international world. Brain drain? In this sense, talent drain. There's something that is going on on the screen before I myself have our biggest influences. Whose work is this in specific? This is one of our artists. His name is Mutahi. I can see Obama. Does Obama have this many wrinkles? We have many. Yes. He'll reach there. He'll get there. I think I've seen this on your website on MyTribusArt. This is just a sample of artwork done by various artists. Selva, can you tell me who are some of your biggest influences while the audience is taking a look at the catalogue here? Okay. I've been in the painting arts industry for five years now. My first teacher back in 2013-2014 was Mrs. Mary Ogambo. She used to teach me at Go Down at Centre. She's a very well-renowned artist. She has been painting in Abu Dhabi, UAE and just to find someone who is motherly and just will give me my first canvas, my first paint, my first everything. Yes, completely. And introduced me to my first exhibition. Aside from her has been Mr. Patrick Mokabi who has been featured in many places as CNN Africa and he has been emerging as one of the painters who almost has his style in the dictionary, Mokabizi. Mokabizi? Yes. His paintings are revolving women and their beauty, their curves and it's everywhere. It's in Java, it's in JKA and what he has provided for me is the ability to just go into his studio and work with others and so I got to learn from him and even other artists, so many artists and down the road it has been also music. Oh music? Yes, I'm a music critic of jazz so when Diana Reeves came to Kenya I felt like I have just met Beyonce so I was very I was very excited. I also do music and I feel like art is so broad and music is art and people don't it's art is divergent and convergent at the same time it has a lot of spheres. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about a bit of your work we go back into the serious things. Is there anything Jerry let me start with Jerry because now you are the least talkative in this particular scenario.  Actually when he did this, those are painting before this and I actually was frustrated and had to paint it off and start this. So it happens at times you paint something and it doesn't come out as you want it happens and sometimes you paint something and you're so in love with it you don't want to sell it. That particularly happened when I was doing art talks for Marini Naturals I was in love with Michelle and Talami's painting because it was inspired by the natural hair Caroline she has and I was so in love with that painting I didn't want to part with it but I had to. It happened. How much did you sell it for considering it was your best? 25,000 Wow Yes Okay, let me slide over to what happened to the one that she didn't like or you said you repeated it. Yes it was actually here. It was painted. So you actually wrote one of your worst stroke transformed Yeah, yeah, yeah, transformed and then this one of my favourites. Okay, that's good. But upon that there's something else going on. Story. There's some journey up in there. Okay, let me find out from you. Was it a certain model that you interacted with? Was it the right of your career? Well there's this event I organised I found myself in a lot of trouble. Why? You know, when you do events maybe the community around you might do a lot of disturbance because a lot of disturbance to the society, to the community. Was it loud music and what was the problem? Well that was the time I decided this time I'm going big. So I had the best sound system. I had the best DJ in Mombasa. I had the best MCs. I said I'm doing it this time. So unfortunately at the restaurant we organised it was surrounded by residential plots. So they complained to the police but lucky enough I had the license to do the event. So I was Licensed to do events very good Yes. So the event organiser was arrested Oh. Yes. So even despite having the Oh goodness. We are in Kenya. Okay. I was arrested but fortunately enough we were almost at the close of the event. So there was not much interference to the program. As much as I was in the police cell deep down I was happy that I had achieved whatever I wanted.  Yes. What was the name of this event? Because I can see some of your work running on screen right now. It was called the Red Affair. The Red Affair. The kind of danger. Maybe that was the reason. And what about your best? Is that a mixture of your best and worst? Well I can say that's my modeling career. Because I I was known because of that. My friends talked about it. A lot of people talked about that event. Blessing in disguise. Yeah sure. So it was the turn of events. Yeah. Okay. I like that. Let's hear you as now it's your turn. What was the highlight of your career or is it something that you do that you sucked? Or something that you did that you really loved. And how much did you sell it for in that event? Mine was not for selling. I actually didn't want to part with it. Oh you experienced the same issue in the journey. So there is one that was inspired by Alicia Keys song Super Woman and I painted African women going to Kuchota Magi going back home during the sunset. So what happened is that aside from art, I used to do digital marketing. And one day we had as a team from Kenyatta University we had won some google online marketing challenge that made us go to Netherlands. So from an email I was requested to you can bring your art pieces and I brought it and now it's hanging on the google offices in California and just being sent that photo was the best thing that ever happened to me and still is the lowest moment I scrape off a lot of the stuff. I can't do it anymore. You get another canvas yes it happens. I like that. It's so good for us to hear these stories because people at home when they do things things go wrong and things go right. It's good to celebrate the wins and the fails and the fails that turned into wins. So for someone at home who is interested in this line of work do you have any words as we conclude? Jerry? Oh yes, first of all a lot of times I get this question if art can be sustainable, if it can sustain you in terms of your pocket and let me tell you yes it can I was taking fashion design and marketing and I'm clearing this semester and I decided to switch to art. As much as fashion and jewelry still inspiring me I decided I'm doing art and since I started in 2017 I promise it's been such a good journey in terms of money and it's great especially if your work is quality if you try and observe quality, if quality is one of your values you'll always get clients and I'm so grateful to the clients I've had I also do a lot of commission works and yes it helps a lot So your message is it's sustainable and you can make some money so they shouldn't fear. Okay I like that Jerry and we can define you on social media real quick. On Instagram it's Jerry Artista, on Facebook Nuthya Alright Edwin let's hear your parting shot Well to that young kid, to that youth to that someone who is struggling with something whatever you're struggling with is something that gives you contentment push on with that because I personally studied industrial chemistry but I've never been passionate with this course and I did like with what I'm doing the fashion industry and something else when you're down don't feel shy to ask for help personally I've been down very many times and I'm very grateful to some of the friends I had I remember one of my friends his name is Clenses I asked him bro I want to quit point of quitting he told me bro in this show business industry you have two options go big or go home I like that so I chose to go big so where can they find you on social media we have social media handles, licensed models across all platforms Twitter, Facebook and Instagram okay thank you I like passion don't be afraid to ask for help go big or go home what I will say is for me I have been in the painting industry for five years it hasn't been all milk and honey hasn't been canna there are two years where I was like it's desperate I have over 60 paintings and none of them when I go to exhibition they say ah nice that's what happens and what I came to understand is that the art industry do not confine yourself in a box the best thing my canvas can do for me is sell for me, give me money your painting can do so many things it can give a statement can give a political statement it can give economic statement it might end up in the hands of someone who might connect you to another person so don't box yourself you might be doing managing of art, you might be directing art, you might be the creative in art yes you might not be the artist yourself so I enjoy the journey I like that enjoy the journey and get out of the box yes I might they find you on social media my home is curry artist that's for my paintings and then sell for curry for my jazz and soul music oh great jazz and soul music, alright I think it's about time we conclude this segment we have been talking to the art refinuers and my tribe is art my name is Hilda Wadididi please do not go anywhere but Remosis is coming up next interview


So guys, I'm going to share with you in this video something that someone wrote here and I think it's so great. It's so many useful insights from a person who has been practicing inquiry, self-help, both sorts of techniques in order to deal with a very difficult, challenging thing that a lot of us have, which is anxiety. And a few questions in this. So I'm going to just read down through it and let's see if we can take anything from this because I think there's a very, very important takeaway message from this. Maybe you've been practicing inquiry or challenging some of those negative fear-based thoughts for a while and this person seems to have run into an impasse. They've got to a certain point and their progress has stalled. So I want you to see what you think of this and I'll see if I can add anything helpful to the discussion on it. It's a great, great piece here. So this says, I'm a lifelong enthusiast, practitioner of self-help and spirituality. An anxiety has always been my predominant emotion and I've been working for years to move past this. For me, it's mainly social but other forms come up also. Okay, so mainly social anxiety. They're for years and this person has been practicing self-help, spirituality for quite a long time. So other forms of emotion or other forms of anxiety are coming up also and says, I find that doing inquiry or questioning stressful thoughts about social situations brings me relief if my mind is anticipating the situation. So public speaking or socializing. Okay, so it's helpful when maybe the speech is tomorrow okay, or the social event is tomorrow and the do the inquiry and the stressful thoughts that come up and in that moment before it the person is saying that it's very helpful that those calm me down and it makes me think or be in a better mindset, which is great, right? However there's a however here and it's such a great however. I love it however, I always run into an obstacle. It says when I'm in the social situation my hit rate is about 70 30 so that means 30 of the time I can remain relaxed. However, 70 percent of the time my anxiety comes up with a vengeance this as I've said is after years of practice so if you're reading this if you're listening to this video right now you're probably thinking to yourself oh for god's sake is it going to take years and then all that's that's going to be 30 percent and 70 percent of the time I'm still going to have this anxiety even if I do all the inquiry the CBT the challenging negative thoughts. Well, let's read on and see but it's a fair question so my question is does this mean that inquiry or questioning is ineffective? Does it mean I'm doing it wrong? I don't think it's that you're doing it wrong put your mind at ease on that. I think if you've been doing it for that long it's not complicated some people do make mistakes on it and you can sharpen your process but I think there's something else and I'll get to that in a minute so the question really from here on is is it ineffective? Does your success or failure rate here of when you're in this situation the anxiety still flares up happening 70 percent of the time does that mean this whole thing is ineffective? Shouldn't I have moved past this by now? I'm so frustrated with this I'm close to the point of packing all this in and just avoiding social situations altogether or as much as possible. I feel I've been lied to somewhat in terms of how effective inquiry CBT or questioning really is in fairness I'm doing slightly better I used to get anxious all the time now at least I have some experiences where anxiety is not present however and she ends on this shouldn't it be gone entirely by now giving the given the time I've put into this I think that is a fantastic, fantastic piece of work by this person so let's see if we can make sense of this because you know if we're talking 70 30 percent at a time my anxiety my whatever you want to call it my fear still comes up I think this comes down to how you define success in all of this and what the goal of this is because it's fantastic that the inquiry the tools the cognitive therapy and everything is helping you feel better before the event now in the event what happens is your nervous system has been conditioned from the past from from it could be anything right it could be various traumas from the past social traumas or bullying it could have been neglect it could have been being ignored so all of those are very complicated emotions and if they're prolonged over time that goes into your nervous system and now your nervous system it's on a cellular level that trauma or that fear is sort of encoded into your body so that it becomes a conditioned response and that is very very the cognitive therapy is great for getting you into a better mindset helping you move to those situations but what I want to tell you here in this is if fear comes up in the situation the social situation maybe does that mean that you've failed in this it's a great question and I don't think that's what it means at all there's another you know tool you can use here in this and it's a reinterpretation of what should happen when I'm in a social situation you can go back and you can dissect the past sometimes that's what hypnosis is for sometimes that's what cognitive therapy more like psychoanalysis is for understanding where my trauma comes from and why when I'm in these situations do I get so aggravated and afraid and really that's an understanding and that'll help you get rid of feelings of shame and guilt and things like that but as I said as it because it's a conditioned response on a cellular level now it's no longer cognitive and oftentimes it'll be it will flare up when you're in those situations your nervous system is trying to keep you safe and it is learned in the past that people certain people cannot be trusted they're not safe they've hurt you in the past and that's gone right down into the body and the body now just gives you that response right back up so the tool you can start to use now in in addition to those those tools I think you should keep doing those those those approaches especially inquiry and challenging but the other tool is to allow the goal at that point of your work is to realize I'm someone who gets anxious sometimes and is that something I need to fix is it something that makes me broken or is it completely understandable and not something I have to get rid of or put myself down if I do feel nervous or anxious in these situations maybe it's supposed to be happening for me our our attention then shifts to a different way of categorizing success in terms of how you handle it because okay my body is learned in social situations it should freak out a little bit well now what success means is okay how do I how do I handle that how do I soothe myself before it happens during it and afterwards the goal is now about soothing relaxing and calming the nervous system when it you can say inevitably if you want to say inevitably if it happens all the time just accept it and do not see it as a sign that there's something wrong with you at all because it isn't your fault these things always come from the past they're not even your thoughts these thoughts okay it's it's conditioned it's it's from an ancient time in the past usually as I said it's not it's it's it's well it's sometimes but rarely it's about an isolated traumatic event like something horrendous like even sexual abuse or or an assault or something like that although that can happen far more likely is this ingrained conditioned response happens through prolonged difficult psychological situations in which maybe you're ignored as I said or you're yelled at or you're you're told that your needs don't matter or you're bullied and that goes on for a long time the body has just learned that now with time and allowing it does get less and less but it's not something that has to happen because you do CBT exercises necessarily right so it's not that you're relied to about that I would say because CBT and inquiry and all those things are very very helpful it's just that if we can just start to work with the body rather than trying to manipulate a new response from the nervous system this whole thing the healing process speeds up immeasurably much much faster and much more enjoyable experience enjoyable is the wrong word but a much more peaceful experience so the one word I want you to take away from this is allow I'm in a social situation I'm in a meeting I mean I'm going to give a public talk I'm going I'm in a group of friends socially new strangers socially anxiety okay there's anxiety there does it mean I'm broken does it mean I've failed in my self-help efforts not at all not at all it's brought you to a point now where you're taking it out of this and into the soothing exercises and that was what was always required anyway in this both are required but now it's bringing this into understanding the nervous system the nervous system will never ever respond to anything other than soothing it will never respond to force to try to change it to demand that it change because it only perceives that as another threat and it gets even more entrenched in its in its stance defensive posture so I want to thank the person who wrote that because I think it's a fantastic question a fantastic insight from person who has done this and really tried the work I want this to be a motivational video for you do the CVT do the any self-help books that you you're interested in do the inquiry never stop that ever right that's so helpful and then add I'm just I'm talking I'm adding a tool to your your tool belt here if you like add that tool of allow your nervous system to respond exactly as it does at all times okay with more awareness of what's going on and soothing allowing is soothing but there are various techniques you can do there's ETF and there's I'm really in tapping and things like that there's just human touch can actually be very very soothing for the body to understand what's happening is a big big part of that so I hope that was helpful and whatever the tool you're using keep using it keep using it and don't stop guys because it's such a healthy thing to do for yourself you're never a victim of any of these things whatever happened to you in the past however challenging it can be healing is possible for everyone and you get down to the later levels in it and you begin to realize wow healing is not exactly what I thought it was but when you when you bring in allowing like that my god everything changes you know it's it's such a relief to feel huh I don't have to get rid of this I don't have to fix this broken thing thanks for watching guys and take care of yourselves out there and I'll talk to you next time


Today we are going to talk about doctor-patient conversation.  So we will role-play, she will be the doctor, and we are all the patients. Okay, let's start. Patient one. Hello, Mrs. Tanata. Sit down please. Thank you. How are you? How can I help you today? I have terrible cough. Okay, let me examine you. I will write you a prescription used to medication twice a day. Thank you, doctor. Bye-bye. Very good. Patient two. Hi, doctor. Hello, Mr. Brown. How are you? I am very good today. How can I help you? I have terrible throat. Let me examine you. It's terrible. Yes. I will write a prescription you used to medicine twice a day. Okay, be careful. I didn't slept before and I can't eat anything. Can you help me please? Okay, I think your temperature is high. I bought a medicine for that. Thank you very much. Thank you. Patient three. Hello, Mr. Khan. Hello. Please sit down. Thank you. How can I help you today? I have terrible heat age and it isn't getting any better. Is there another symptom? No, but heat age very much. Okay, let me examine you. I wrote a prescription you used to medicine. I have a condition twice a day. Thank you. Patient four. Good. Hello, doctor. Hello, Mrs. Lua. Okay. How can I help you today? I have terrible back pain. Yes, it's very so bad. This is a common pain. Pain, this one, yes. Everything is pain. Your neck pain also? Yes, it's a pain. It's a heart attack. You must rest. I will write you a prescription. Use the medicine twice a day and rest. Please. Thank you, doctor. Bye, see you. Don't drop it. Hello, Mr. Hans. Hello, doctor. Thank you. How can I help you today? I have terrible heat age and it isn't getting any better. When I was sleeping, I feel very good. Yes. Let me examine you. Please open your mouth. It's terrible. I wrote a medicine for you. You used medicine twice a day. Bye. Do you accept it? Thank you.


For the first exercise, think about one possible story at your project site. First, write down the who, when, where, what, how and why. Second, write down a possible beginning, middle and end to your story. Practice setting up your equipment before going into the field. You have to test your tripod and add your equipment and also make sure that you recharge all of your batteries. If you are working in an area where it rains a lot, then pack waterproof bags and cases. Find a nearby scene such as a building or trees and shoot it at different times of the day under different light conditions. You will be amazed by how the photograph changes and what it conveys. Explore and test the focus and exposure functions on your camera or smartphone, outdoors and under different conditions. Familiarity is the name of the game. In harsh outdoor daylight conditions, a simple maxim for exposure is to expose for the highlights and the shadows will look after themselves. First, take three photographs using the rule of thirds and then take three photographs using leading lines. The photographs can be of landscapes, animals or people. Then experiment and have fun trying lots of different compositions. To practice, develop a photo story on someone you work with or a community representative at DSWM project sites. Photography character with the following four angle in mind which I am illustrating with the example from the Guyana project site. Landscape, show your character outside their home or in the landscape where they work. Portrait, this is where you can get up closer and show the face of your character from waist upwards. Try taking the portrait from below or above. Action shot, try and capture the tension, movement and energy involved in whatever your character is doing. Close up detail, here you can move in on important details. It could be their hands, a piece of hunting equipment or their food. Try and film these six shots with a colleague. A wide shot, extreme wide shot, mid shot, a close up of hands, a close up of the faces and over the shoulder. Remember, each clip should be at least 10 seconds long. It's also a good idea to look at some of your favorite videos and write down the order of shots used in their sequences. From the wide shots to the extreme close ups. With a colleague, set up a simple interview with one of you working the camera and asking the questions and the other responding. Try and follow all the suggestions given here. Then switch roles so that you both practice being the interviewer. Make sure you print out at least 10 consent forms before you head into the field. Once you're back in the office scan the consent forms so you also have an electronic version.


A fiery horse with a speed of light, a cloud of dust and a hearty hyacinth silver, the lone ranger. In the early days of the western United States, when the red man still ruled vast sections of desert and plain, the establishment of settlements with the whites often caused dangerous conflict. But there were those in that pioneer period who believed that Indians and white men could live peaceably in the same great southwest. One of these, the greatest champion of justice ever to ride the plains of western America, was a masked horseman mounted upon a great white charger, a figure who inspired the pioneer of long ago. Return with us to those days when the west was young and the ringing hoofbeats of silver sounded on the outlying trail. The lone ranger rides again. In the eastern bank of the Rojos River, squatted the century old adobe huts of Ororico, home of the superstitious Zunyi Indians. On the western bank lived Dana Sturgis and his small but determined band of pioneers. These men with their families had but a short time before been attracted by the fertile soil and had founded a farming settlement. One day in the new general store operated by Dana and his wife Mabel, the pioneers talked to the strange seldom seen tribe across the Rojos and Eriki, say them engines is called Zunis, not Zunyi Tom, Zunyi, Zunyi, Zunyi, huh? Sure Tom, ain't you ever heard Dana talking about them? There's a wide sound in it just before the eye and them red skins are just as strange as their names. Yeah, I know that, Mrs. Sturgis, because just before Dana went down the river's edge to fish, she was, well, she was saying something about what mighty funny superstitions them engines have. Well Tom, I don't know much about them myself, but I guess Dana does, because he told me this tribe across the river here is an officer. Well, Lordy me, I just now noticed you, mister, were you looking for something special? No thanks, I just dropped in to pass a little time. Riding through this way? Yes, I'll be heading north again soon. Well, make yourself at home here, mister, if you see anything you want, let me know. You say Eric them engines is an offshoot of some real old tribe? Yep, that's what Dana told me. Why hasn't Dana told us this before, if he knows to blame much about them? Why ever since we first settled here, them doby huts across the river has been a mystery? Now, just a minute, Tom, don't get the idea Dana knows all this and know about Zunyi engines. He don't. Well, what did Dana tell you? He said no prospector told him that the original Zunyi is controlled all this land around here, but that the Spaniards came in and tried to drive them out. And did they? No, but they stole plenty from them and made the engines forever plenty mad at sight of any white man. Eric, you ain't telling it all. Well, how's that, mister? The old prospector told Dana about seven cities of gold. Oh, sure, now I remember. The seven cities of Sibala. That's it. It seems the Spanish explorers imagined a lot of that gold business. Yeah, they saw the sun shining on doby huts like the ones we can just see across the rojos here. And thought they was made out of gold. Oh, so that's how it all started, eh? Yep, and I suppose that's why we ain't seen much of them Zunyi's over there, because we ain't never crossed the river to their side. No, Dana's got enough sense not to try it now either. Always say, leave well enough alone. Them redskins don't come over here.  Oh, shucks. Dana can take care of himself, Mr. Sturgis. He's likely is not busy hauling a nice mess of river fish. Yeah, I hope so. You never can tell about engine. Hey, listen, what's that rumpus? The engine. Look out there on the river. By thunder, you're right. They're coming in canoe. The whole tribe up. Eric, get out of my way. I've got to find Dana. He's down there by the river. Wait a minute. Here comes Bob Force and all the other men. Eric, Tom, get your muckers going. The engines are coming. I can see they is, Bob. But where's Dana? She's a fishin' down at the river, says. Where is he? We don't have time for nothing except to get our muskets.  Get ready for a fight. The Red Devils are paddling plenty, plenty. Unnoticed with the pioneers, the stranger had left them at the first cry of danger. Made his way to the Great White Horse, hidden a short distance away. Then astride Silver, the lone ranger raced along a slanting trail toward the river. Come on, Silver. The Indians are attacking the whites. We've got to find a way to stop them. Head for the river. The river, old fellow. Come on, Silver. Resting the summit of the by-trail, the phantom rider shot down the slope to the bank of the Rojos. Lined six across and six deep, the war canoes of the Indians got swiftly over the river. The first flank nearing the western bank in the White Settlement. The lone ranger sighted by a short distance ahead of Silver, another horse and rider, as he shouted at the top of his voice.  Dana, Dana. Oh, oh. Keep us up. You bring news? You want to scour both stripping, what? Indians lose big God, Rhonda, from Dobie Temple. A Zuni idol stolen? That's right. Somebody take it last night, and they think it was the white man. That's why they're attacking now. Already, two war canoes up there. Yes. I see them now. They're almost out of sight around that bend. Indians capture one white man. Dana Sturgess. Take him back to Puerto Rico now. We can't wait longer. The first flank of canoes is almost ready to land the warriors. But now I know why the Zunis have come across the river. Now, if a plan that may work, come on, Kimosabe, and hurry. Get them up, Silver. Come on, Silver. Rattle on the river banks. Come on, old fellow. Come on. Kimosabe, those Indians are armed only with bows and arrows, and the whites fire upon them.  Ride up the bank to the whites. Tell them not to fire at any cost. Come on, Gold. Come on, Silver. The life of a white man depends on you, Tunnel. Come on, Silver. Our plan will only prevent bloodshed. Come on, old fellow. We're running between the red men and the whites. Come on, Silver. Suddenly a single war canoe shot ahead of the others. Nearly touched the river's bank as the Zunyi chiefs took a wreck at the prowl to command his men. You, right now. I'm Tula. Ronda. And high up on the western bank, Eric shattered the command to the pioneers. Raise your mask. Get them out of here. Take aim. But even as he cried these words riding to the midst of the whites, came Tonto. You stop. You not shoot, Mosquit. Wait. What's that? A red skin. A red skin already on outside the river. You not shoot, Indian. You not shoot. Or, Indian. Kill white man. Kill, Dana. Kill him. We know that Zunyi already captured white man. Then what are we waiting for, Eric? Look down at the river. They'll land any second. Tom, Sam, Eric. Come on. Wait. You shoot, Indian. Indian, sure. Kill white man. You wait. Eric. Tom. Maybe this red skin's right. Tom, look. That fell on the big white horse. What's he doing? He's a mask man. And he's riding right along the river bank. Right out in front of them war canoes.  They'll drop him in no time. He ain't a chance. Him have plenty chance. What? Him, friend Tonto. Now, you look. Indian have both. Mara. Him have guns. Indian, you're right. Look. Look at the mask man. We don't have nothing left. Before the amazed eyes of the pioneers bet a phantom figure on a great silver horse that raced before the very prouds of the advancing warcraft, but his bows were sprung, caught, and deadly arrows poised. Another kind of weapon. A white man sys gun roared a language any man could understand as terror struck at the Indian. There's one, old fellow. The chief's canoe and there's another. And another. And there's sinking silver. Turn the tide of battle. Come on, Silver. Keep close to the river's edge. And with the tide of jumble, bouncing war canoes now turned back toward the huts across the Rojo's River, the white men dropped their loaded muskets, hardly able to believe what they had just seen. Eric, Sam, all of you, did you see what the mask man did? He rode right up to them drawed bows, crossed in front of a whole tribe of engine warriors, and scared them out single-handed. The mask man, here he comes. I'm told no one can come. Those of a common family.  How unblazes, Jevitt, do it. Mr. Maskman, I suppose we ought to be up-feared, have you? You look just like an outlaw. Outlaw? But I guess we ain't, not now. I have my own reason for wearing the mask, and I'm not an outlaw. Of course, even if you are, after what you did for us, well, we can forget most anything now. Yeah, but where and thunder did you come from? And how did you ever scare them red devils out so quick? It doesn't matter where I came from. But when I saw that those Indians were armed only with bows and arrows, I had to protect them. Protect them? We thought it was us you was protecting them. It was both the Indians and you I had in mind. But I don't savvy, Mr. Then perhaps you'll understand this. You men were greatly outnumbered. We sure was, Mr. But even if you had opened fire on the Zunis, who know nothing of bullets and powder, their bows and arrows would have been almost useless. Seems like you proved that mask man with only two six guns. Yes, but you men would have aimed to kill. I only sunk their canoes. And if you had killed, that tribe would be your everlasting enemy. I see your point, Mr. But you can't tell us them redskins ain't our enemy right now. Just a minute. Not a one of you is going to cross that river. And why ain't we? You ain't our boss, mask man. But Dana's our leader. Yeah, it was him brung us here first. And I say help Dana. Listen to me, all of you. You want to get Dana back alive? Do just as I say. Are you in league with them redskins? No, but I've learned a few things about them.  And at the same time, weld a lasting peace between you whites and those Zunis. How do you know your plan will work? I don't. But I've good reason to believe it will. And you men are going to do as I say. What makes you think that? Because what you want more than anything else is Dana's sturgis alive. We do, we do, Mr. Miss Minna. I'll do anything to get Dana back. Then listen. And I'll tell you why the Indians attacked you today. You know that? The reason they come after us? Yes. Someone, perhaps white men, perhaps red, has stolen an idol from the Zunis. What? You mean one of the guards they worship? Exactly. But how do you know that? Tonto know that. Tonto tell friends. Indian, you mean you've been over there in the Zuli village? Ah, Tonto know that Ronda, guardian guard of Zuni, gone. Well, sure. Eric, Tom, look at his horse. He's blipping wit. Come swim in the river, don't you see? Well, happy to go on. Well, that's why we must try my plan, to safeguard the life of Dana Sturgis. Don't attack the Indians if you would save him. You think the Indians are holding him as a hostage? I do. Now, Tonto and I are leaving you for the present. We've got work to do. In the meantime, keep guards posted along the river bank, just in case the Zunis come here again looking for their idols. But, Mr. We ain't got their idols. I know that. But the Indians don't. And when we find out where it is, I'm coming back for some of you.  Get him out of the way. They're going. Look at that white horse that's rambling. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The curtain falls on the first act of our thrilling Lone Ranger drama. Before the next exciting scenes, please permit us to pause for just a few moments. Now, to continue our story, the Mashed Rider and his Indian companions scoured the country across the river, even to the very borders of the Zuni village of Ororico. But no clue to the theft of the idol could be found. Then on the fourth day, the Lone Ranger and Tonto returned to the Western Bank of the Rojos, where we find them picking a slow trail northward along the river's edge. Oh, the Zunis are superstitious. But I'm convinced we're matching our wits against the tribe more clever and superstitious. And I think you're right about them wanting the Zuni idol for their own guardian spirit. Mm. You'll look. There. Tracks, Tonto. The clue we've been looking for. Oh, so long. Oh, Scott. Tonto, look over here. Heavy hoof prints. Too heavy for light Indian ponies. What do you make of them? Maybe them carrying heavy load. The idol, yes. Still, how could horses carry it? Its weight might not be too much, but its size would make it almost impossible to handle with horses. I wonder. Wait. Look at these marks here. Them long marks go way off there. Cut ground. Two parallel lines about three feet apart, leading out of the reeds along the river back and heading inland. Come on, Tonto. Into these reeds. Tonto, think this end our trail. It's here, Kimosabe. Hidden in these reeds. All right. Me, me see. This is what brought the idol up the river. Here it was unloaded onto what was probably a crude sled. Perhaps two poles for the runners. Then horses dragged the sled away. That's why hook print plenty deep. Same way mark goes. Yes. The horses dug the feet in because of the weight they were pulling. But come on, Tonto. You ready now for plan? Yes. The idol will keep. Wherever it is, it's too bulky to hide. When I get back, this well-marked trail will lead us to it. Here's the risk out. Stay there. You want Tonto go now? Yes, Kimosabe. Back across the river. Finding the clue on this side, the pioneer side, changes our plan but little. You can still carry out your part. Tonto know what do. Hurry, Kimosabe. Be ready by daybreak tomorrow. Hail, silver! Southward along the riverbank raced the lone ranger, while Tonto and Scout recross the row host to the Zuni side. Several days had passed since a masked man had left the pioneers. And even as he sped toward their settlement, they became increasingly restless. To Mabel Sturgis, wife of their captive leader, the few days had seemed an eternity. Just look at poor Mabel. She ain't no nerve. Aiden Mabel, listen. Tom and Bob and me and all of us told the masked man we wouldn't go attacking them engines ourselves. You didn't, Eric. You just said... Just said as much as a saying, Mrs. Sturgis. The masked man told us Dana'd be safe as long as we kept ourselves. That's why we're waiting for word from him. Sure. And when he comes back, we're going after that their idol of the redskins in order to save Dana and make peace at the same time. Oh, I'll be blasted. What good's that to Mabel Sturgis when she don't know what's happened to Dana? She's fed up on waiting. Waiting for a masked rider who may or may not be our friend? Well, it's been 10 days. Now he ain't showed up yet. Fellas, part of what Aida says is right. There's no arguing a masked man's been gone a long time. Too long, maybe. You're weakening, Bob. No, I ain't. But listen, it's about five hours till dark. Suppose more for Mabel Sturgis than anything else. We wait till sundown. Then if the masked man don't come, take our boats and go look for Dana. Bob, Bob, you will? You will do that. If Tom and Eric and the rest are willing. Oh, bless you, Bob. Bless you. Listen, fellas, the boats we got could take us all across the river in about three trips. Then we'd have a chance. Yeah, bullets and powder against bows and arrows. The masked man himself said the engines wouldn't have a chance. How about you, Tom? Well, I don't know. Tom Crawford, if you ain't man enough, we'd get out. Wait. Look. Come right toward us. The masked man. Bring in the word we've been waiting for. If it only means I'll get Dana back. The boats are just noble to it. Mask man, what'd you find out? Where's your engine part? Are you ready for us to help you fetch back that blamed idle? Yes, I am ready for you. I want four of your best men. Mr. You can have all of us if it'll bring back Dana's churches. I can use only four, but hurry and pick them. Tom, you and Bob and me are as good as any of us. Sure, and I'll go after Sam for the floor. Choose your best horses. Get guns and ammunition for the long trip ahead of us. And danger when we get there. But success is ours if you all have the courage to follow my plan. Yes, sir. There's the raft I told you about. Mr. This horse of mine couldn't stir another foot. You can all rest your horses here. But I'm going in and out to follow that trail leading west. You mean them two scratch marks there in the ground? Yes. Those marks will lead me to the stolen idle. Well, wait a minute, Mask Man. How do you know that? Never mind how I know. But I expect to find an Indian village not far from the river. More engines? Yes. The thieves who took the idle. Over there in those reeds, you'll find a raft. Huh? It was used to get rummed away from the Zuni tribe. And it's going to be used to take that same precious idle back home. And you ain't even been trying to rescue Dana all this time? I've told you, man, that Dana is safe. Saving him before we return their guardian rumder, but only send them on the warpath again. They'll keep Dana alive until they're convinced their idle won't be returned. But suppose they've already? I've no more time for talk. It'll soon be dark, and I've got to follow this sled trail to its end. Come on, Silver. Oh, what is he? A raft. A sled. Who's that? Never mind, fellas. The Mask Man's trailing down an Indian idle. And we're taking his orders. I don't see over how I know. The deep-rutted, double-lined trail led the masked rider to an Indian village some two miles from the riverbank. Once he was sure of the landmarks surrounding it, he swung Silver about, ready to carry out the rest of his plan. Darkness had fallen when he rejoined the four men near the river. Oh, oh, Silver, come on, folks. Men to your horses, then hurry. I know what you were saying, Mr. I did. Now ride with me. Let's go. Come on, Silver. Back over the same place.  Through the night, under a cloudy sky, the pioneers rode following the Masked Man, until at length not far ahead, they saw the fires of the Indian village. But here, the command from their leader, they reigned in their mounts.  Follow me.  Yes, the temple. Rum does sure to be inside, but there'll be a priest, too, a medicine man. How are we going to pull this stunt without waking up all the engines? The medicine man will make a fuss. We'll handle him. If the idle's our big problem, we can't drag it away. They will make too much noise. It'll have to be carried by hand the full distance back to the raft. Gosh, near two miles. We'll make it somehow, Mask Man. You lead us. We've got to make it back to the river. Our horses are no good to us without the sled these Indians used to bring it here. They can follow like, Mask fellow, after we get that blue and idle back to them. Yes. Now, don't talk anymore. We're getting close to the temple, and the medicine man's chatting half aloud. He's inside, facing lambda. Careful now, but keep on coming. Against the background of an Indian ritual fire, the medicine man knelt. His back to the approaching whites. Beyond the fire squatted the huge head of Rumda, a crude wooden idle but mighty to the superstitious Indian. Then at the very door of the temple, the moon slid from behind a dense cloud.  Bob sprang forward. I'll fix the fireman. There. That's one painted devil won't bother us. Now, all of you, get a hold of the idle at his base. Go through the doorway. Now, hurry before the village waits. Burying the heavy idle, the masked man and his companions retraced their steps even more quickly than they had come. Hours dragged by, as five weary men charged on. The moon paled. The stars flickered and went out. The sun began to rise golden in the east. At last, they reached the row host. Stumbling feet plowed through modern reeds. A final desperate effort in the Indian idle Rumda was placed upon the route. Mr. Maskman, in my whole life, I never worked so hard or guts a scared all in the same night. How's the dog on the toilet shaking? Listen, the engines from the village. Then we're done for. Come on, climb aboard the raft. Out in the river, we can make a fight for a spell. No, we'd be worse off there than here. The sun's up. We'd be in plain sight. Duck low on these reeds. Maskman, they're getting close, too close. But they've only got bows and arrows, like the Zunis. Fire to stop them, over their heads. That's done it. Look, they're pulling right up. Keep firing. We've got to make sure. Hey, who said Zunis? Look, right behind you, out on the river. There comes them walking up the game. Conjuration, Maskman. Now there's two tribes that can get after us. Oh, no, don't you see? Dane is with them in that lead canoe. What? He's going to land in a minute now. An air saddle from the across and the other side all scouted. Hold fire. Hold fire, men. The attacking Indians are scattering, and our friends are here. My gully, the Maskman's right. Fellas, just look at them red devil's ride, the other way. Turn and tail like scared rabbits. And over here, landing on the bank right now, it's Dana. All right, Dana? Dana Sturges, come here. Come on, it's your wife, glad to see you. Right glad to see you. Over here, Taddo. Moscaf, Moscaf, Moscaf, Moscaf, Moscaf, Moscaf, Moscaf. I knew you would make it, Kimosabe. We had those other Indians stopped, but the sight of Yampo and these war canoes turned them to flight. Say, them canoes full of engines settle matters all right, but who emblazes Yampo? Hm? Me, Yampo. Ah? That's right. Yampo, big chief of Zuni Indian tribe. Neela, Rokat, Lure, Titoho, Ronda. What's that? What kind of lingos is that? Yampo say, pale face save great god of red man. Now, red man, brother to pale face for all times. Say, peace last all time. Well, that's fine as far as these here Zuni's are concerned, but what about the other tribe of red skins? Ruh, mona, mona, Zuni, Sula, Ragnar. Hm? Oh? Don't you fellas worry none about no other engines now?  Me, Yampo. See? And now I ain't never met up with a mask man yet, but aim to this minute so I can thank him. You're too late, Dana. There he goes now. Well, of all the strange acts and fellas, that fair mask man. Here you have just heard as a copyrighted feature of the Lone Ranger Incorporated.


the internet which you could tune into now on Mothers Channel. Take this very seriously I don't think there's ever been a joke on EFAP. EFAP is a joke. The meme section is an account of the history of EFAP. We're just watching clips from recordings live. We get up to a lot of stuff off of podcasts. We run around in lots of environments close to getting killed. It's very interesting. Glad I was finally around for an entire live EFAP. A lot of the super chats are about how people are catching this EFAP. It's weird. I guess this one was caught a lot by people. Well it's Sunday so maybe everyone's kind of like hanging around on Sunday. Maybe the weather's bad and so everyone's staying inside catching up on the EFAP. Hey hey criminal gaming issue. He said can't confirm no jokes on EFAP. He's the sausage doom man. He should put the sausage doom on screen for him. The sausage doom man. No sausage raider. Put sausage raider up on the screen. All right yeah give me a sec. I'll have to find it. Oh my god I have to cycle up so far. Wolf rags we have a deal. Can I cuddle with you afterwards too though? I don't know about that. I don't know not all crowds are bad. Not all crowds are bad unless you're fat. I don't know maybe if you warm us up Wolf and I could spit roast you. There you go. Yeah it all works out. I work out. Hey Wolf do you work out after all your pizzas? I do. Do you take your pizzas and roll them up and down hills and then when you get back you can put it in the oven and cook it and eat it. No actually this week I started doing the paleo diet so it's been working pretty well for me. Did they have pizzas back in the day? Surprisingly enough no they didn't. Oh okay all right I didn't know so you can't eat pizzas with a paleo diet. No. Oh okay so what you're saying is you're shitty at diets. What I'm saying is I haven't ate any pizza this week.  Proof me wrong. I don't prove you right. You prove you right. How am I supposed to prove that I haven't? How am I supposed to prove that I did a thing that I didn't do? Stool samples.   Yeah I was going to say we've gone pretty good with it now.  Chunky or smooth peanut butter? Smooth. Thanks. Huh? Oh smooth. All right. Smooth. I don't want the last thing I need when I'm when I've got peanut butter over what I'm eating is to get like little bits and I just don't know. I love peanuts but I don't want like the peanut bits in the smooth peanut butter. I agree with that. Oh yeah I hope you enjoyed Sausage Raider. It was beautiful. And yeah I like both. I don't really mind either. I was gonna go with both. Maybe that's a British versus American thing. Who knows? My diabolical plan to make Wolf too fat to escape eFap early is going according to plan. Brings more pallets of pizza. See? Proof. Wolf is eating pizza this week. WolfxRagSpitRos adds two to-do lists. Oh lord. Oh god. Oh. It's all over. I'm actually autistic. I know you're shocked looking at my pfp so I have my authority to give all of your tizism pass and add it to your r and a-word passes. Nice. Autistic. You know it's like it's like aww. But that could that could be used in some way shape or form for some memes. I don't know. Theo sounds like Sean and Jen. Sean. You don't want to know. You don't know who Sean is? No. The most autistic Sean is. The most autistic of the SJWs. He's like one of the dumbest human beings alive. Oh is he that weird guy with the skull avatar? Yeah. Yeah Theo you should say hello everyone. Hello everyone.  It's not actually too bad honestly. Oh no. I'm not like Mella. Yo embark massive sausage rhino milk. Do you prefer the first two Raimi films or MCU Spidey? I adore Spider-Man 2 and I adore Homecoming. I'm not sure which I think is the- Yeah that's tough to pick between those two but I think they're both better than the first three films. It's not the first time this has been asked of us either. No. I think we discussed it on the Raimi stream that we did way back when. It's a tough call honestly. I might have an affinity for Homecoming because Tony Stark's in it and I love Tony Stark. Yeah I'm not even sure what I picked for a personal preference. I'm really not sure. I'd have to watch them both back to back and then really think about it. They're both amazing.  All right I guess his writing is consistent. I can environment he sticks to his guns yes. Also rags game suggestion for Zelda for Switch Zelda Breath of the Wild Mario Kart and if you like JRPGs Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Final Fantasy XII and Octopath Traveler.  No Bayonetta 2 on that list. No. I heard a lot of bad about Bayonetta 2. It's not as good as one from what I understand but it's still a Bayonetta game so I hear it's pretty good. Every time Wolf and Rags get into a fight I'm happy and Wolf you are wrong you're massive. That's true. Wolf is wrong. Well the audience 68% of the audience says I'm right. Wolf is correct. I'm sorry but I believe that's a logical fallacy called the appeal. Well you know. Well wait but Wolf didn't say that he is right because of that he just said well that amount of the audience agrees with me. He simply took comfort in it. We know what he know. Yeah Wolf is correct. I the Mexican dawn to create and the name of the profile is El Don. Discount Don what? Name is El Don. El Don. El Don. Now I'm picturing that he will put it up in the memes and he just has like a sobrero. Yeah. They call me senior Don. They can have Don and Don meet and Don can be like who are you and he'd be like I am Don but I understand you are the Don from north of the Rio Grande. Rhino Bathwater greater than Belle Delfine's Bathwater obviously. It's not really a competition is it? Rhino's don't give you hippies. Is that the name of the chick? Belle Delfine? Apparently. Okay because I don't actually I know the story about the bathwaters don't know who it is. It's just some internet thought. She looks like a trap. You could say that they earn it rather than deserve it. Oh not this again. Rags. Well earn is I know I think that's interesting you know earn and deserve. I mean are they interchangeable? That's interesting. I have to think about that. Rags bought Delfine's water but it's too much of a coward to justify it and doesn't want to admit he deserves the hippies he got from it. Wow I didn't know that was the case. Do we add the Bathwater herpes question to the list of things to ask us now along with the episode 9 adoption question. Bathwater herpes.  Wolfen Movie Pop. Hey I clarified by saying I wouldn't kill them all. Yeah you'd fix them. They're all smart. Yeah I would. Are you saying it's bad? I'm suggesting that you're thinking this person would choose to vote on this or do this. This is like I will make them correct and I will force them to do the correct thing. No no no that's not what I meant. Do you mean you'll raise their IQ? What are we talking about here? Yeah I mean like just make them more intelligent. I don't mean like make them think a certain way. I don't think we can trust these guys. Sounds like a eugenicist to me. Movie Pop what? Maybe eugenics were a little bit bad. Oh Zach actually wants a legitimate answer to the question of do we add the Bathwater herpes question. Do you know how embarrassing it'll be to ask people like who are brand new to this stream? Do they think someone deserves Bathwater herpes from drinking it? I don't think we should ask that question. That's horrible. I think that would tear people away from our show pretty quickly. And yet there will be people in chat saying whatever we have a guest now.  One minute you're on Team Wolfen suddenly you're Thanos. Yep. I love you guys here's a bit extra money from build. $5k PC build. Frack you that's why I'll sit on rags and wolf slap given the opportunity. Yay. Or you could just lay across both of it. Both of it. Are you two an item? I corrected and said ours. I mean we can be an item if rags wants. An aggressive family friend looked for a fight the other day and got shot and killed for his trouble. Did he deserve to die or did he have it coming? Wait what? An aggressive family friend looked for a fight the other day and got shot and killed for his trouble. Did he deserve to die or did he have it coming? He looked for a fight? Isn't like he was instigating it? I guess. I mean if someone had like reasonable suspicion to believe he was on brand and he was trying to fight him then well like I mean just like yeah I want more context for this but for example if you swing at someone and miss like you got to punch them and you miss and then they pull out a shock and blow your head off I'd be like whoa. I need to know like does he have a weapon?  He's kind of asking for it. If you shot someone under that then you would be found guilty of murder if that was your reason. Really? Yeah reasonable suspicion that's not going to cut it for shooting somebody. How do cops get away with it though? You're not the cops. Now reasonable suspicion is different now you would have now reasonable suspicion you need that if they would like check your car like if they smell weed then they have reasonable suspicion to believe there's weed in the car and then can search it but yeah yeah yeah so that would be a difference there but if somebody but if you have like a gun like you're carrying concealed and you tell a courtroom I had I felt that I had reasonable suspicion but I mean if someone's coming at me with like a knife or something uh yeah and a lot of cases that would absolutely be just you bet then yeah that I mean like in that case absolutely it depends though I should have worded that differently but I mean like yeah I mean like if someone was coming at me with the intent to kill and I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that was what was going to happen like would that legally yeah for the most part yes for the most part yes then almost date and stuff like that yeah but there's but this where it gets really really weird because if you're in a state where you don't have a stand your ground law or a duty to retreat law like we have oh yeah that's true because it's different laws on this and what let's take it let's take it this example let's say um you have somebody coming at you with the intent to kill but they were in a wheelchair right well then well I mean if they have a shotgun or something well well yeah it was a knife it was using what that's just how interesting it gets you know that's how crazy intricate the whole thing can be that's why you know it's a serious business yeah and the guys the guy clarified friend had no weapon friend had no weapon but beat the man to a pulp friend was the one who instigated so if you beat up a person to a pulp and then I guess got shot and killed yes you can yeah that sounds pretty justified to me yeah I mean that's what the essentially the grounds was for the Trayvon Martin case because if you beat someone up enough then you can absolutely be shot dead in self-defense because though depending on how you use your fists that's absolutely potentially a deadly weapon from chip chiply 70% of the voters are wrong rags if the ball says don't drink and they drink anyway do they not deserve whatever ailments they get temporary or permanent if the what so if a ball says don't drink and they drink it anyway do they not deserve whatever ailments they get temporary or permanent uh depends depends on the element I think for instance if you have a if there's a door that says employees only but you open it and there's a guy on the other side who shoots you dead you know like obviously they you don't deserve to get shot right so it's a matter of it's a matter of the extremity not not extremely the it's on the spectrum right of whatever their whatever the the consequences because to a degree sure you know like if if you walk through the if you open that door that says employees only pulling on your side that says hey asshole you're not supposed to be back here then yeah you probably deserve that right so it's on it's on a scale it's on a spectrum of what the consequences are and that's in here's think that's why it's such a comp this is why it's a complicated discussion that we've been having essentially the beginning of mankind you know what do people deserve to have happened to them for the actions they commit you know how do we figure out what the best justice is yeah like a complicated subject once people would find easier for example would be like a guy like i don't know tries to poison some water to kill some people and he ends up drinking it because he's i don't know idiotically chosen the wrong cup or some shit like that it's like well you reap what you sow you kind of deserve that that sort of thing yeah it's it's a complicated it's very very complicated and there's not one real i don't think there's really a set of a standard set of rules that you can apply to generate yes it's a tough interesting long-term conversation and when morality comes into it that's when you know it's going to be a long man conversation yeah i mean let's put this way let's say you um let's say you are a monk in the medieval ages and you spend your you dedicate your life to helping to ease the suffering of people who have leprosy do you deserve to die of leprosy well you know it's it's different then isn't it just all it's all about what the scenario is what what the situation is a fascinating conversation interesting yeah uh let's get our gamble freak on no time for just right but can we strawpull and debate herpes water for half an hour no herpes water don't drink herpes water oh they said like no time for just right but we can't strawpull debate herpes water for half an hour sad face like yeah well this is the thing just right deserves his own episode he'll get it it deserves his own episode i would say that yeah i'd say he brought his urn so when is the next episode anyway i guess we'll figure that out when the next sunday a whole week before we get to just right that sounds just wrong that that would just be the spider-man one so it'd probably be two more weeks oh yeah well we will be talking about far from home but we might be it depends on what what guests are looking like the thing is yeah we're probably going to have to delay the just right one otherwise i'll have to have the one again that's the same guest twice in a row who would want to see that well we could have a fifth i guess we could yeah yeah we could have a fifth hmm i'm trying to i'm trying to start myself from saying fifth in the same fifth fifth i mean i'm not very talkative so i can't like half a person he's as christ would you stop talking for five seconds yeah calm the fuck down the uh wouldn't you just shut the fuck up shut the front door and the back door and the back door no my back door is always why do you even bring this fucking massive faggot on here whatever does is don't say that about mauler i know man like well she makes the memes come up on the screen what have i done uh mauler you should make a notify dot me account so people can always know when you upload instead of relying on the youtube algorithm still in beta launching soon i mean hell if a bunch of people start adopting it it's really useful sure well for you saying rags his dad has down syndrome oh yeah he likes the last day no i think that he's just one of those he's very much one of those turn your brain off when you go to movies okay kind of guy everyone kind of let's you know a little secret god i'm being hyperpolic you're not supposed to take me fucking seriously no you just sound like a lawyer vending rules okay you you you're not you're totally serious right up until someone asks you if you are okay yeah that's how i determine whether uh whether i've been too serious or not is when the first person asks are you serious oh no no well you're not listening to audiobooks right unless you listen at 3.5 speed get on my level oh god lord uh your t i mean yeah that's pretty fast fuck your take on ec's vid was pretty good thank you boggles my mind he doesn't know what iron crosses are ec's series about auto von bizmark and gym and unification from two years ago was amazing well i'm afraid the times have changed i heard you didn't know ec's content at all so i can really recommend the both bizmark series from two years ago one about auto and the other about battleship bizmark is with a watch this thing i'm sure there is good content on uh on extra credits this channel as a whole and it's a shame they do history stuff as well apparently which is like wow you know it's like you guys do history huh and you and you said all of that okay stop normalizing bizmark yeah doesn't that make them nazis kind of they've ever kind of if they put the iron cross on screen on that video so yep uh i promised that after endgame i was done with the mcu if black panther and captain marvel are indicative of future quality i think i'm better off indicative well you know we may see you know better things or worse things you never quite know with this uh wonderful adventure a rule is just a weird law bilbarian bogodumble bongo dumble bongo dumble bongo dumble levy bag and bilbarian bongo dumble yeah i like bongo i'll put that word in the duke tell if i like it it's very unique bilbarium bongo dumble it sounds like an actual character um i have a hard time accepting that post civil war tony stark would want to leave the keys to an arsenal of wnds to a horny teenager uh well i think that we were supposed to accept the element that uh he gave it to peter for peter to decide how it would be used or who would be able to use it the fact that is the protocol on there to allow him to you know gift uh things it's not it had to be i thought it had to be um are we talking about the training wheels thing actually well technically it's it's in the new film so it may as well just we'll have to wait till next week once they've seen it all right yeah i haven't seen a new one if it's a new one then i thought rask would get triggered by me writing me and rags instead of rags and i hi rags hello hi no i just i just got i got out of my system you just gotta let listen man sometimes you just gotta let it go you just gotta go with a flow you know you gotta you have to be like you have to be like water you gotta curve with the bend and go with your flow molla knows how to get me excited big and long bio i'm disappointed by your lack of references to nichy oh uh that's an in-joke kinder from the discord server why'd you guys hang on on that server so lame it's my job now hey wolf i don't even get paid for it i know it's it's practically slavetisms slaves with jobs slavetary slavetisms hey wolf is oy the number one doggo who i don't know oh why oy oy oh oy from dark tower yes wow you want to run that by me again okay well he's the best fictional doggo yay wolf rags we have a deal can i cuddle with you afterwards too though yeah probably we have to pay extra for that with all that depends on how much you weigh how i what if we could cuddle with him he might be like a big beanbag and we could just yeah but if i have to like sink into his fat folds yeah that's you know that's exactly we gotta we got a limit here hey maybe that's comfy yeah and no no it isn't because it gets all sweaty and i don't want to taste like the skin crust if he's like one of those people on my 600 pound life oh no no skin crust please yeah let's uh no skin crust get back to you when we know your weight no no no no no no was gonna use today's super chat money to buy a farm for all my n words but you guys could probably put the money to better use like pizza farm for all my n words christ a cotton farm for all my like pizza and bathwater diseases which you would absolutely deserve rags this will go on they said they they decided to they'd prefer to spend the money on pizza and bathwater diseases which you would absolutely deserve all right then you ask me for no reason i guess i accept this challenge in relation to the cuddling i suppose hashtag pizza gate wolf would said no skin crust just thin crust say no to skin say yes to thin crust indeed wolf x ragged spit roast adds oh yeah you read that one how i mean you know that's something i could tuck it out to other people are you uh you guys should check out the skyrim mod vigilant i'm currently playing through it it's pretty good fair enough skyrim wolf trim wolf have you seen the breath of the wild sequel trailer yes it looks interesting although there wasn't really much shown um so it was it was breath of the mild yes nice el don ring with george are our token and tonal software wait wolf the height of a person matters too like there's a difference between someone that's 200 pounds that's five foot and 200 pounds at six foot that's true absolutely weight and height i want a big studly minotaur of a man absolutely yeah then we mine at all that's another different job on you we say minotaur over here you guys say minotaur actually i don't know how you pronounce i've heard it i've heard it pronounce both ways i said mino right i i always pronounce it minotaur because of crisis too i've always known it as minotaur but i heard it pronounces minotaur in an american game i think it was i don't know what game was the point being i was like huh i think minotaur sounds cooler than minotaur by the way i that's just my you know that's something like personal subjective objective opinion in my personal subjective opinion i think minotaur sounds a lot cooler all right well here uh it's called the minotaur because it was from the island of minos right or is it minos is it the island it's the island minos or minos if no idea yeah fuck no it's probably easier to find it okay um how to pronounce minus so if it's in greek minus main uh may what mean it's minus so dictionary.com says minus which means minotaur would be probably correct because no minus wasn't my dad minus wasn't the island minus was king he's the one who ordered Daedalus to build the labyrinth because his wife gave birth to the minotaur minotaurianopolis minotaur the crete is the island uh minus was the king of crete so when his wife got pregnant with the minotaur minotaur he ordered Daedalus to build the labyrinth god how fucking shitty if a person wants that event with the horns and everything oh yeah not the horse more than just the horse also the horse body the horse but wait no way no not horse body just well the whole body or whatever well i would probably be the size of a normal human baby but it's so much bigger one but it didn't have a bull's body it had a it had a man's body this is a bull's head that's yeah this is interesting the three videos i found on how to pronounce it our old minotaur but they've all got a really low approval rate and like they're all at 20 to 24 49 33 kind of like a combination of a bull and a human body yeah monster body of a man oh and the head and the oh that's weird because it's got hooves all the images that pop up show it says it had the body of a man in the head and tail of a bull yeah that's what i thought yeah and all the pictures have was a man's body bull's head it's basically it's basically a cow themed furry i mean you can't really deny it all themed one but it's like a yeah it's like a guy with a bull head you're like a guy with a bull head i am a guy with a bull head bull all right then uh theo i know this may seem random but as an e-fab guest does someone deserve herpes from bathwater bought online they earned it they earned it wow would you rather he paid five million dollars to eat a turd sandwich once per month or be paid two million to watch the last jedi once per week so really mr massive who's he what you know say that one more time would you rather he paid five million oh maybe supposed to be be would you rather be paid five million dollars to eat a turd sandwich every month will be paid two million to watch the last jedi once per week two million to okay so five million to eat a turd sandwich once a month or two million to watch the last jedi once a week i would definitely take the two million yeah and especially because i can manipulate the crap out of this i can be doing a lot of things like oh yeah i get it sorry i wasn't actually paying attention the uh the the fact that i could be like doing anything i want while i'm watching quote-unquote the last jedi you know i i could be i could have some food i can hang out with a friend you know there's lots of things you can do maybe do some exercises in the background they didn't specify anything i'm gonna monkey pull this and just just do whatever i want a monkey's paw oh i don't know man if it's the monkey's paw then that two million that you get is gonna because of some fucked up oh i mean like i'm the monkey paw in the scenario is in like i'm the one who takes you're just one yeah mauler you're a monkey paw that's all you are you're just one you're just a stinky monkey's paw thanks dude i appreciate that from the bottom of my table the worst yeah it's not the the oh shut the hell up wow someone paid money to see that damn you guys missed my first super chat oh no we i read it out it was the one where you ended it and saying hop at hippocrot who hippo hippo cross i think it was hippocross i remember reading it and saying hippocrot just to make sure yeah the only one hippo you know hypocrotical unless there was another one let me load them let me load up uh the rest of today is to make sure nobody likes to miss these things you know yeah any of you guys watch the first episode of dr stone no i've never heard of that yeah i got the hippocrotical and the new one someone said minotaur is the greek pronunciation while minotaur is latin so they're both technically correct wait that's not acceptable two opposing things cannot both be no it's absolutely not we will vote for it on the next efab very well i will give everyone a week's time to decide give this to decide to give this thought give it a thought thought give it thought there is a wrong answer um we will determine what the wrong answer is we will literally use this poll to determine what is correct and not correct and we will tell other people in the world that we meet in our day-to-day lives that efab voted upon it and so it is it is it is decreed and if you don't think that an efab poll is good enough for you then okay because they were wrong on the deserved one so who knows what else they'll be they were right on the m&ms though so they're a little you know a bit of a toss up but we'll see almost now we'll re-watch the upload tomorrow at work just wanted to give you some money just saw spider-man far from home i personally loved it i think it was at least as good as homecoming all right but wasn't homecoming bad that was the following super chat where is my review of gay world rags gay world i i actually i let me actually check and see if that's on steam i could i it's not i already looked fuck i don't believe you um i refuse i i tried to get it because i wanted to spike your gay well oh yeah here it is yeah here it is oh it's 50 cents it's not it's on sale review it rags review gay world uh adi it's cart special promotion gay world it's there is a multiplayer efab gaming gay world multiplayer no it's just single player but it'll be worth it since man i i oh i got it he's so funny if i have multiplayer it's like we create like we get everyone to buy it and play it we like revive its player base oh no but you could buy the gay world ultra edition install game eight seconds it cut well here let me see uh how how much is gay world inside um okay more megabytes i think need more vids with dancing rags it's pure asmr pran 49 megabytes i believe there's going to be more along the way more vids of you dancing right rags um maybe i've got i'm in i'm in some talks with some very skilled animators within certain themed communities so i think i might have to hide the contents of my desktop because i don't know i don't think i want anyone to walk in and see gay world in my front you know it actually took me less than a second to download gay world because i can download more than this game size in a single second my max right now four megabytes i think it's downloaded really quick for me my peak for downloads is 57 megabytes a second so i could download this game in less than a which means that in a minute i could download like a hundred gay worlds and that's really philosophical how many gay worlds yeah yeah um i'll be a big minotaur of a man for you if you want me to be rags yes please daddy but not for me a bathwater drink is a herpes earned benjamin baggins i agree it was in the constitution i don't know what to tell you it's like hey thomas george i want to add this one little thing at the end it'll make can you can you copy paste that and put it in the discord chat i think i might have to put that as one of the quotes of the efat book i can do that a bathwater drink is a herpes can we watch the mulan trailer real quick i have actually that i've seen it it's not um i mean wolf is all right yeah there's there's not much to comment on it's like it's standard stuff uh as lame as that sounds i don't know it's it's not going to be much for us to work with and then we at risk of copyright stuff as well uh good job finding the clever way around the terms i would expect nothing less from you why thank you if that's directed at me or anyone else thanks regardless wait rags this is important and we'll raise slash lower my opinion of you depending on your answer how do you pronounce the leader of the legions name leader of the legions the lead i guess it would be the leader of the legion and his name or her name i don't even know which legion i don't know which one was from james morse i guess if he's in chat which legion is he referring to a um let me uh what's give me a second um uh legatus uh legionis i believe is that answer acceptable it depends there's not latin pronunciations are kind of lower the place there's like classical and italian then there's church latin pronunciations it's it's uh new vegas chas oh leader of the legion um uh there's new bay when our i'm oh i think in i think in the game they pronounce it leg at lanius at least the ncr pronounces it like that um but the legion would probably pronounce it launius oh for launay vegas thanks so right hopefully that answer was acceptable we have two memes because like the the ncr pronounces it caesar but caesar himself pronounces it caesar which is the original latin pronunciation which is also helpful for remembering how to spell caesar as you pronounce it caesar that's how we got the terms caesar and zah fun fact yeah they both also also the man could make a great salad no one denies it the man could make a great salad and to this day we remember how good his salads were in fact i'm probably gonna make myself one after this the bale in peace stream because i've got this step yeah i deserve this jesus christ i guess you did snap all of the stupid's out of the other thing well if you went ahead and did it oh you have seemingly been getting i'm glad i'm not this you've been getting fatter with each of these drawings i uh man is it gonna be like a violent bale in drawing when you've popped and it's just intestines everywhere oh no no no legit please no i don't want to see that um but yeah that actually wraps it up it's been we got seven hours and 11 minutes holy fuck uh so thank you all extreme much for the for the incredible evap memes both imagerous and videos they were wonderful and i i managed to get that many in the course of a week like i don't have a lot of memes that's a lot of me and i like the whole point was you know it's like memes once per three episodes or so so i can build them up but when it got to that me i was like no you have to get rid of these you have to do it you have to have a whole burst of memes a square of memes i think in what i'm gonna do is is there a place where i can put some of the original assets that i use for my channel into a place so if people want to make memes they'll have some of the original images to use and they don't have to like cut out ones from videos if you upload them in like a big pack to imager and then just give me the link i can put it in the description uh yeah i could probably do that yeah not all of them of course oh well yeah whatever once you want to do yeah i could i could probably do that yeah get their sources for the evap memes that would be good because i want to give because people really do put in a lot of effort so i think it's good that you know they might be able to use the good stuff use that good stuff they said is to keep wall from escaping early i came back didn't i maybe that's that was that was the way reason why i can't escape and zack said salads are for rabbits and the gay um and yeah thank you for the incredibly kind donations on top of the the the memories i hope you had fun with us looking into extra credits and everything else that happened um theo plug your channel exactly you're gonna you're a loser you're one of those people that has to be encouraged to i guess make one go on chat do it you like oh dude it's called to you know ringy you bring some stuff frog old should just team up and make a channel together do it i mean i'm writing stuff gay together and everything yeah don't don't expect anything he's writing things but don't expect any things i like talking about video games what can i say thank you mind but yes thank you for casting and assisting us with extra credits i'm so sorry you didn't get to see your hero just right today um but there's always next time he will be see what have happened if not why did extra credits have to release tizmy video you know it would have been fine if they hadn't done that yeah they fall um but yeah next defab more than likely will be sunday but who knows what's gonna happen and who knows what guests will be and who knows what the topic will be no promises so we don't disappoint other than all the things we promised about episodes to come you know how it works it's been a wonderful night it just works i'm glad that we've had so many ups and downs the that 3d effect though i mean two two months crazy i'm sad things are getting weird on this show but yes uh is there anything else anyone would like to say before we hop off um thanks for thanks for all the memes like seriously some of them are really really great the art the memes uh it really is something that we look forward to to watching i can't wait for the fucking godzilla efap movie jeez the effort you guys put into that into like the memes and such like is again honestly fucking crazy it is unbelievable the effort that goes into it it's like a whole sub genre on youtube videos now this kind of network there's how many have we covered videos it's probably over a hundred right oh i couldn't it might like be around about a hundred at this point i don't have a literal website with a whole page dedicated to the memes it's unbelievable and i think that the biggest blast of them all got started with kylo ben i believe that was that was the first one that i actually yeah it was the first one where i was like oh i better start storing them because they're actually like art pieces that deserve to be remembered instead of actually i think beowyn may have started it with that fucking creepy alien thing from the last jedi that was the that was the first beowyn drawing wasn't it yeah thank god i'm good to know that was your inspiration that weird floaty ball sack thing what a weird web we spin upon this channel and with that good night everybody we shall see you next time good night