What does to get under someone's skin mean? Hmm is it a to accidentally hurt someone or B to annoy or bother someone or C to Change someone's opinion Hmm It's B to annoy or bother someone


We are claiming that it will be much more than 25 crore people who will be participating in the strike on each other. And this estimation we are able to give because last time it was round about 20 crore workers who came from the states. And this time because the farmers and culture workers have given a cramming power call by more than 175 organizations. And students community also which is facing tough time, campus after campus attacks are happening on students and teachers. And last night we saw the ghastly incidents what happened in Jollanary University during several students and teachers. So they were already on their agenda of fee hike and on the issue of no commercialization of education. They were already agitating on their students demands, education demands. And now naturally they are very upset the way after Jamia, Aligarh Muslim University then all the campuses came on street when there was vandalism there and they were attacked. And yesterday JNU students and teachers were attacked. So the student community had already taken a decision about I think about 10 days back when they held their press conference and they announced that they will continue their campaign on their agenda. And on 8 January they will give solidarity to the working class and they will observe strike action in the campuses also. So while student community and now the kind of pressure on them and the beatings and brutality happening against them. So the campuses we will have support from the teaching community, we will have support and the people angry because of policies of the government. We will get all that support and that is why we are underestimating when we are saying about 25 crore it will be much more than 25 crore people who will participate. This estimation is also because we succeeded in having conventions in all the states and most of the sectoral federations they met jointly and notices of strike have been served. So including state government employees, including some places solidarity from central government employees and then of course the strike overall in industrial areas. We did all that for patients and propaganda has been immense, post-treeing, wall writing, pamphleteering has been immense. Not only among our constituency workers we have gone beyond that going to people and the besties. Also there is lots of anger as mentioned by our friend also that Indian labour conference is not held, tripartism is being crushed, bipartisan is not being respected and ignored. In that background the way codification is being forced upon us that adds to the anguish of the formal as well as informal economy workers. So that is an issue we have raised in our campaigns also. And government is on the sale spree selling all our natural assets, our natural resources, our indigenous industry, our infrastructures. It may be roadways, it may be railways, it may be an oil sector and it may be defense they wanted to corporatize it. And you already know they have already decided about selling BPCL. 100% they are talking Air India to be sold fully, already 12 airports have been sold. Then platforms, railway platforms are being auctioned. About 150 private trains are supposed to be run, Tejas is already running on our railways. We also know that trains like Rajdhani are stopped and Tejas is given priority. So these private trains will be having huge profits. They will be given priority and common man's trains and other people's trains to be run by the government of India. They will not have priority, services are suffering over there. BSNL, MTNL merger is already announced. 93,600 as per date the people have been forcibly made to leave jobs. It is where as they said we say that you have taken away their jobs. And railways some more facts will be told by our friends who will be speaking. Banks they didn't listen, merger has been followed, insurance sector is under pressure. Many places the power sector under privatization, roadmap, roadmap for road transports also in several states this is being pursued. So in the face of all these policies where codification means taking away our hard-won labor rights for a struggle of 150 years. I should say we began in 19th century. We got factory act in 1881 from 1881 onwards whatever through the struggle of working class in India. We had the legislations and we got several of the rights in Indian constitution through that. And then through legislations in parliament and assembly we had several laws in favor of workers. They all are supposed to be snatched through this forcible codification. Code on wages you already are aware has been passed. Now rules are being framed and in the rules they said 15th Indian labor conference they said ILC will be taken note of. But in the code they haven't said. But if they have said in role then that means not what Santosh Ganwarji said in the parliament about 178 rupees per month will be the wages which comes to 4628 rupees. We have been demanding 18000 which we upgraded as 21000. But if you look at present day price index it goes much more than that. So then if ILC is to be taken note of then it can't be 4628 rupees which Labour Minister while announcing code on wages he said. But it will be naturally as per price index and ILC it should be 21000 plus and not less than that. Code on safety is already in parliament standing committee. We trade unions have already represented our viewpoints. There we will be on streets also. Code on IR and code on social security is also in the end when our other friends will speak about that. That is also attack on the safety and security of workers and social security to be snatched away whatever existing social security we have. So it's not to give social security to everybody it is to finish off whatever the social security we have to weaken that social security. So we are placed in such a situation and that is why every section is facing turmoil and that's why farming community farmers and agriculture workers also have come on the streets. And with their Grameen Bharat it will become really we are hoping maybe 14 to 15 states will be complete Bund type situations. And rest of the states it will be successful strike action with lots of mobilization on streets. Mobilization will be there in almost all the states but Bund like situation nothing moving. We are expecting 14 to 15 states will be in total Bund like situation where markets will also close. And the rest of the states this is this I am saying from our ground reports we all have been travelling all of us and all of our colleagues who are not present in the press conference today. All of us have been on toes since 30th September and we are telling you the ground reality. Unfortunate part is that the government of India instead of addressing this issue is diverting the attention of whole nation in the name of debate on CAA, debate on NRC, debate on NPR and bringing a fear psychosis in the minds of the people. They want that debate to continue and continue with the people's fear psychosis and similarly the way they have attacked the students and all. They are trying to change whole narrative in the country. They are trying to avoid all those bread and butter issues of the people. But we the trade unions whereas we are aware CAA is against Indian constitution and NRC and PR is also nothing different than CAA. All these three will be clubbed together and the government documents and the government statements have been very clear on this thing. So that is causing great anxiety in the minds of people. We trade unions also have given our statements as far as these issues are concerned. We had unitedly given our statements on that also when all that episode happened when Jamiya and then AMU and then attack in UP the way the things have been happening all over India. We understand that. So they want only that discourse. They do not want to discuss with us. Group of five which was constituted during Arun Jaitley being finance minister that met us only before our first general strike 2nd September 2015 and that was also to make us appeal don't go on strike and he didn't address our agenda and so we went on strike. After that no group of minister nothing ever happened. So that reality we know very well. So we know that the diversionary tactics is being applied by the government and fear psychosis not only in the minds of minorities. Fear psychosis is in the minds of general common poor people of all communities of religious group all cultural groups all geography in the country. That kind of fear psychosis is being created by this government and they don't want people to talk about their own issues. But we want to assure through you the media we want to assure the people that we trade unions while we'll be opposing divisive politics and polarizing politics of the government. Exposing their designs of attacking Indian constitution, disturbing its plurality, diversity or centuries old great civilization of our country. They have attacked all that while we will be definitely we are and we will be addressing that issue. But we will not let the government to lose the focus of what huge majority of Indian population is asking for. Control recession, handle economy, give us jobs, no joblessness and all the issues related with us on our labor rights, on our pensions, on our social security. All those issues are dear to every common man to whichever community and religious group they belong to. We will not let the government to lose the focus so 8th January will be made as a memorable historic strike and then after 8th January we will review how the things have to go. We are very clear this government has to change the policies if the government doesn't change the policies people will do which the people have been doing. But whenever the chance comes they will have to bundle their clothes and go back from where they came. They can't rule this country by attacking constitution as well as not addressing the issues of people Indian citizen, rural or urban. This I want to say and now I give floor to Harbhajanji on this. As I told you before, 8th January will be made as a historic strike and we will support the union of farmers, workers, workers and students. I have kept this press conference in the middle for you so that you can understand why we are going to Artal. I have tried to clear this from the previous time. As you all know, last year in January we did Artal on 8th and 9th of two days. And on the 8th of two days we have been asking for a long time. We have been asking for 12 days. And we have been asking for 12 days from the government. In simple words, the unemployment rate in the country is increasing so much that it is a commitment in the UN Assembly that we will create a decent job for all the unemployed. When will we create a decent job for those who have decent jobs? You are constantly losing those decent jobs from our hands. And because the unemployment rate is increasing so much that the country is in such a state that the farmers are not able to do anything. They are not able to do anything. The workers are starving. They don't have a place to live. They don't have a place to eat for two times. So we say that you create a decent job. You are not creating a decent job. The jobs that you have done, you have done the same. You are not able to control the amount of money that they have promised for the next 100 days. You are not able to control the amount of money that you have promised. You are not able to sell the profit making products to foreign and foreign companies. So our two days of Artal in January were very successful. And our report is not about the country. The employer's report says that more than 20 crores of the country's workers had taken part in it. But no matter what the government is doing, the government has only one agenda. On the ease of doing business, they are trying to create such a conversation in a country that foreign and foreign corporate houses have such a conversation for them that no labour log should come into their business. Before and after the independence of the country and after the independence of the country, we have obtained the 44 law after the Shankar's and after the sacrifices. The 44 law has already been promised to change the government in four codes. And they have also kept it on the parliament table. One of which has passed the wage code to Lok Sabha and Rasubar. Its budget notification has also been made. The remaining three codes are already on the parliament. And after the amendment, when the codification is done, no work in the country will be possible to make a union. And if the union is formed, then the employer will request the employer who will refuse to accept that his last weapon will go to Artal. He has also attacked the last weapon that he will not be able to do Artal. And the day he notices it, he only gives an essential category. Now both the categories have also compulsorized non-essential people to notice. And the day he notices it, then the reconciliation has been started. And during that reconciliation, there is no upper limit to how much time he will dispose of it, whether the committee is formed or not. But during reconciliation, no union will be able to go to Artal. And if it goes, then they will have a 6-month gap of Rs. 20,000 to Rs. 2,000. And both of them can be united. That this was not the courage of the British at the time. This was not the courage of the British at the time. But this is the government that we have chosen by our own hands. It is said that we are the government of the poor. This is working for the corporate house, for foreign companies. After all our country's freedom, the public sector has developed the government sector in this country. Whether it is the railway department, whether it is the defense department, there are so many 91 factories of the defense, which make guns and guns to protect the country. The 25,000 people in the country who transport 25,000 vehicles on a cheap basis, and there are roadways, airways, airports, all the oil companies, O&GC, who were running in profit, the foreign companies in the context of all the crores have taken 100% decisions for foreign investors in our country. And we are trying, we have never asked for all the labor unions to change such laws and surrender the working class in the future. Without the blood and sweat of the working class, the country has never developed, nor will it do in the coming times. And there is so much unrest in the country, not only in the workmen, but in the farmers, in the students, in the whole city, in all our citizens, such a thing has been created by the government that whatever it wants to happen in the country, one musteraj will become their party, and they will also push the coalition government for their next plan. And they have made such a thing in the country, that the people of the country have started doing such an emotional blackmail, they have started spreading it in the name of religion. And the main issues of the country, which are some poverty, it is expensive, and there are still children in schools, there are no masters, the government schools are being closed. As you can see, hospitals have been sold in private hands. All these things that the government should do, after choosing their responsibility, that all these fundamental demands of ours, should be fulfilled by the government on top priority, by giving them a lesson, such a thing has been created in the country. So for this, we had done a very big Jalsa on the parliament in Delhi, we had announced that we would go to the parliament one day, if the government would not talk to us. But you will be sad to know that the Labour Minister called us to his house on the 2nd of July, in the new year, and at that time he said, what do you want to say? So we have kept all these issues in front of him, that he is sending PSI to which he has the money of an employer, he doesn't have any money. But those hospitals, those dispensaries, those poor people who get treatment in that, they are going to hand over that to private hands. The money that the employer has to pay for his blood, he is not even paying 1,000 rupees for that, it is very difficult. And the Prime Minister has already announced before the election that he will get 3,000 rupees pension for 43 crore workers in the country, he will get it after 40 years. After 40 years, which government will stay in the country, nobody knows about that. We have made people stupid and blackmailed them emotionally, and have made such statements that now the country has started to share the religion base. Hindus, Muslims, all over the channels, we are very surprised that for us, this was the biggest conspiracy for the poor people, print and electronic media, which used to make our voice reach the common country and the world. Because in that, Pakistani India keeps going. So the channel has stopped seeing that this Pakistan-India, what can I say, the government is not ready to listen to the news spread in our country. So in this conversation, we don't have a plan, we are not going to do anything professional. We don't want the country to be thrown behind like this. But the government is ready to listen to us. It is not ready.   And the government does not want to resolve this issue. Now there are two more requests, and we have added that in our country, people are starving, there is no place to stay, they are dying in the cold, they have left this new issue that they have taken the city and amendment act. From that, in all our other countries, near by Pakistan, Bangladesh and in Afghanistan, Hindus, Sikhs and Jains we will call them to our country. Where did this issue come from? There was no mandate. Where did this issue come from? No government is serious about it. And now, how do we get into JNU who is paying the debts of his parents with website is so treated that he has left the history of the English. So in such cases, we have to say that we are going to Erdal on August 1st, and because they have also approved the railway in the speech of the Fana's District which is not yet available in our centre they are reading in the speech of the Fana's District in the name of development, It was sold for 99 years on lease, and a Habib Khan station was sold for 300 crores, first it was sold for 40 years, then it was sold for 99 years, then it was extended, it has terms of reference, and it is said that it will be sold for 150 vehicles. Those vehicles that we have, they should be run more timely, they should not increase the cost and its rent. It comes to the point, but if you look at these private vehicles, if you look at their rent, as if there is loot in the airline, it is increasing in an hour. Similarly, it will increase in trains as well. There is a poor man in our country, who has a cheap salary, who is a government employee, who has made that transport for the people. He is ready to sell the railway in the last budget. He has done a disinvestment of Rs. 1.2 lakh crore, he is selling all the coal mines. The government that he had rejected in the last budget, he said that there is corruption in the coal mines. He said that there is a big problem in 2G, that is why he is a government employee. But right now he is selling the coal mines in the open market, he has started selling all the PSCs. Like my sister Marjit told me, that by merging the BSNL and BSNL, there are thousands of employees on VRS. Similarly, they have shut down the 91 factories, they have also surprised more than 90,000 employees.  So in this way, the government has made the talks in the country. We have the right to vote for the government, but if the government doesn't vote, and they start working for the people, then we have no other option. We as a protest, in front of the common people of the country, and the country and the world wants to tell us that the government is working for the elderly. They are attacking the rights of the people of the common country, they are trying to save it. The government always used to be a custodian, a labor worker, who is the weakest stakeholder in the country's development. But now this government has become a facilitator. The husband and wife of the country are on the ease of doing business. So with these words, I have kept my words in front of you. I hope that from you, we will be able to reach the people of the common country. And by the end of the 8th day, it will be very easy. And now, they have started a new job at night. They came out of the jail, and tied a tie on their face. They attacked such children, who had a student and a girl present. Her head was so badly injured that she had to go to the hospital.  She had to go home and sleep. Her head was injured and she had to stay in the ICU for a week. This is a head injury.  They have created such a conversation in the country, that they are trying to revive the conversation of the British. So we want to tell the citizens of the country. The citizens of India were neither afraid of the British, nor the government. Now the 8th day of the 8th day will be successful. We will sit there again. We will bring you back to your work. Thank you very much. Now we have come to the point, that you are a labourer of the country. No one is outside of the country. This is a government union outside of the country. And this is the one. No one is outside of the country. These people are fighting against the destruction of the country. And they are fighting against the destruction of the country. Mr. Sindhu, Mr. Amarjit, and so on, will tell you in detail how to end this. There is no end to this. In the last 70 years, the ones who have been created, are selling them one by one and ending them. And in the same way, the country is taking the responsibility of being a labourer of the country. The daily life is a burden to the sky. There is so much unemployment. It is a big problem. But the daily life is not a burden to the sky. You yourself, as a leader of your government, are struggling against the destruction of the country. The government's advisers, the first-gen advisers of the BJP government, are also saying that the economy is in ICU now. And in order to improve the authority, the way you should follow is the opposite of the government. This is not what the government doesn't understand. What to do? Then it can be written as an economic problem. Understand? But the agenda of ending the economic problem is not there. They want to fill up the pockets of the people who give them money.  And that is why, look at the investment that is happening in the country. But where is it coming from? The foreign post polio has increased and there won't be any employment. But in the share market, people will earn money by playing with the government. And in earning this money, the person who will earn the pass will have someone else's pocket empty. This is the rule. No one will benefit from it. This is a destructive policy. A country like India, such a big country, which we have created in the last 70 years is being destroyed. This government has been chosen by the people of the country. But it is working with the foreign post and its Indian corporate as their junior partners. So, it is getting worse on the labor market. The labor market is getting worse on the labor market. That is why, the society is suffering the most. That is why, it is in the field. And we are doing everything. There will be a lot of work. And this work is going to be done in a different channel. Today, we have come into this situation which is not going to happen by making them understand. What are they doing right now? They want to say it in a very difficult way. Now, people are understanding. So, they should think about it. They should think about it. So, they should do this. So, it is going to be a lot more than a year without any bad news. They should be convinced about it. And they should think that this will work. Now, people want to do the same. We will do the same. So, a lot of work is going to be done on the labor market. The job market is coming to a higher priority. and it is not only available for labour, but also for farmers, scientists, and all the other parts of the nation who are on the road today. Those who are on the road announce that they are going to show the 8th generation. The people of the country will do the same. It is available all over the world. And with the help of the help of the government, we have set out to change this myth and change it. We have requested that the labour issue should not be subject to the normal media. What do you have to do? It is difficult for you. As much as the law is changing, there is an attack on the law made for you. Working journalist, newspaper, and employees are also changing. What you have brought in the court, your profession-specific problem has not even been attended. What they want is for the media to be in control. They want the labour to be in control. They want to have a close relationship with the media. So, change the law. So that the big corporations, the foreign companies, can open up a common loot spot in the country. This loot spot has become very popular. And it is called Khylaap. And it started working in Shandarsh in 1991. But it is a welcome city. The farmers of the country are also on the road. The students are also on the road. The youth and the women are also on the road. So, it is a positive city. It is a positive city that is the foundation of the labour movement in the country. It is a new state born. And it will be reflected in the 8th century. We want you to cover it as much as possible. The press was called for this request. Thank you. If you have come, at least let us know. If you have not come in the newspaper, then we will see. At least let us know. We are going to celebrate the 8th century. This is bigger than all the past. From the last 39 years, which was brought by the Globalization Police in the name of Artic Sudhar. And to whom all the governments have put their hands on our country. Bhajpa Modi's government is very strong and very strong. We are working hard on the working people. Today, their policies have failed. And in any sector, in the trade sector, in the government sector, they are not worthy of working. Today, 45 years ago, all the workers were unemployed. Their priority, Modi's government's priority, is only one big sector, corporate houses. For them, the common people of the working class, they do not care. The result is that today, what is on the ground, is in the public sector. And it is not that in the public sector, the money is also in the hands of corporate families. Bank, RBI, all this is happening. So this is the situation. They are not working. They have refused to give salary. And the 8 hours of work, all the rules in the world, the workers who have taken the rights of the workers, are also waiting for the people to come. And the reality is that they have not given a good job even after giving 12-12 hours of work. Higher in 5, fixed-term employment. So they cannot give salary, but they can give salary. These rights, the rights we have earned from our great sacrifices, they also have a 4-logger code, which is bringing it to the corporate houses of the rich and the rich. So this is the situation. It is asking for the role of this case. This is the role of this case. So this strike that is going on, till now, I have said that it is the biggest strike. There is a great anger in the working class, that the farmers are running away from their jobs. So maybe they are talking about us, but they are going down from the double. So this situation is talking about the development of the people. Today, the development is the same where the workers are working, they are making their voices heard. That is the only difference left for us. This strike, we are not just for the benefit of the earth, but for the fascists in this country. The way the English ghost, Hitler's ghost, Nadir Shah's ghost, all the ghosts in this government, in every place in the JNU, the way the movement is suppressing the voices of the people, against this strike of the 8th January, we have only one way, which is to make pressure on the government to protect their rights, to protect their daily lives. We want to protect the society in this country. This is a new struggle, it will continue to progress. So we all want the support of our friends, that tomorrow the working class of the country will be in the middle of you. And we are very deep, in the states, districts, units, in the villages, we have taken the message of this struggle. But through your help, this message came to us in the channels and print media. It is our hope and the process. I thank you for that. It is very strange. The main reason for this is that with the help of the government, the Modi government, the first thing that came to mind was the temple. The temple that was on the top in the last 45 years, was to be bought by the people. Instead of putting money in people's pockets, the benefit of this temple was to save the country. On the other hand, after coming with great power, they did great work on the rights of the workers. After that, they got this code passed in the society. All the work was done by them. They are doing more. As you can see, what happened in the last few years, before the NRC and the CA, the movement that was taking place, the whole process of the movement has been established. The government that is talking about the last few years, the government that is being criticized, has sold all the national property in the last few years. You have seen how the 100% FDI, the rail defence, like Mettupung, Rastri and Jogo, they have also been criticized. So, what we are going to do in January, it has been a very good time. In the last 6 months, you are seeing that the workers are on both sides, the first movement of the whole sector is going on, the scheme workers are going on, all the administrative workers are going on. On the other side, the movement of the fey high, the movement of the farmers are going on. And now, when we are doing this press conference, we are seeing that in India, against the NRC and the CA, against this package, all the women, all of them are going on. It is true that at such a time, the NRC was brought, the CA was brought, when already, the workers were going on, and they were trying to get rid of them. But the government, which is taking away our rights, is also taking away our people. And even for the workers of Nagpur, the NRC and the CA, asking for their return, these are the preparations for our struggle, and that is also possible. So, our struggle is, this whole movement, from last 6-7 months, the movement of the various parties, to make this whole movement more advanced and more effective, a new stone in it, this struggle will be achieved. And once again, through this press conference, all the parties, we know that the government has been shut down, the government has been shut down, the university has been shut down, so all of them, from the section of the society's hard work, through this press conference, we will appeal to the government to participate in this struggle with full strength. And to make this struggle a historical struggle, and through this struggle, we will appeal to the people, and through this press conference, we will appeal to the government to participate in this struggle. Thank you. From now on, I will present the struggle of the government's hard work, and the struggle of the government to make this struggle a struggle, and to make this struggle a struggle, and to make this struggle a struggle, and to make this struggle a struggle, and over the four� four prosecutor's offices, We all have decided to make dialogue and this dialogue will be in the entire nation. And in this dialogue, in at least 25 to 30 crore workers will be on the brink of destruction. And in this brink, the people of our every sector, whether they are from the gold mines, whether they are from the railway, whether they are from the bank or from the LIC, they will be with us, they will be with us, the farmers, so this is going to be a historic brink this time. And the way this government is being attacked on our brink, on the brink of destruction, the way it is being killed, beaten, bullets are being fired on it, like what happened yesterday evening in January, it has to be a historic brink, but this government is not able to take any step forward. The situation is that in the country, the environment has been created. Ever since this government has come, this government has no work. It has to be committed to the law. And the workers' issues, the work issues, the education issues, they have to be separated from those issues. The government has taught us to bring the workers to other issues, religious issues. And today, the only thing left of this government is to trouble the people of the country, to bring the CAA, to bring the NRC, to bring the NPR, to bring them to other issues. In the name of proving the negative, to bring them to other issues, to bring them to other issues. The situation is very bad. The government does not talk to us before. And when the law is created, then our Debar minister calls for a meeting. After doing everything, the meeting is called and we are asked in the meeting. And after that, no response is received from them. Only the meeting is called for the government that we have called for a meeting. The government's cry is a very bad cry. It is a very bad cry. That is why all of us together have decided that we will make the 8th January celebration successful. I will finish my speech with this.


Now, well to California. It's theCUBE at Pier 2.0, brought to you by the Pier 2.0 Foundations. Learn, connect, and grow. Now, here are your hosts, John Berger and Jeff Frick. Come back, everyone, if you're here live in Silicon Valley, this is theCUBE, I'm John Furrier, the founder of Silicon Angle and Cove's theCUBE with Jeff Frick, our next guest at J. Allison, serial entrepreneur, luminary in the social media community, founder of multiple companies, also involved in hosting way back in the day, we're here at Pier 2.0. Welcome to theCUBE. It's my pleasure to be here. Great to have you. I'll see, you're certainly familiar with TV, you're the third founder of, got that funded back in the early days. I'll see you dig one of the first crowd sourcing communities of its time, really kind of changed the game for social media, really established social media.  Thanks, yeah. I mean, it's sort of shocking, giving a presentation today, just talking about the history of stuff, thinking about the fact that the internet was so not robust only 15 years ago. Now, everyone depends on it for everything. And yeah, there is a lot of folks who had to work really hard to get it to this point. You remember the days back when you had to buy like $25,000, you know, DSU for router, you had to buy a sun server, now it's DevOps, you just pop it into the cloud. It's ridiculous. I mean, just talk about from your experience, how much of a magnitude of order of change is that? I mean, a lot of the new guys come in, they've never even loaded a Linux batch before. I mean, just to give you and your viewers a sense of just how crazy it was, so in order to get an enterprise connected to the internet, which by the way predate the web, so the only purpose they had was to email themselves, because there wasn't anyone else on the internet to email, we would literally pre-configure a router and a DSU CSU or a modem if you know, depending and box it up ourselves because there was no way that we could expect a user to go on and configure a router and ship it to them and then have to talk them through on the phone how to get that stuff live. And then they connect to the internet and the next question was the deadly one. Okay, what do I do now? Why am I here? But we just kept doing it. People were paying like $2,000, $3,000, $4,000 a month for a T1 in 1994. And there was just the enthusiasts and then yeah, the problem was, as you pointed out, you got these carriers, well, you got these carrier hotels that were, for lack of a better word, central offices. Like try to imagine like a wet, concrete, dark, ugly, not very friendly location and all of the internet was basically dependent on these buildings. In fact, the largest exchange point in the world was in Tyson's Corner, Virginia in a parking garage. I'm not kidding.  In 1995, 96, and so yeah. So Equinix, yeah, people, they still pay per month, but it's a different universe. You know, in the Aussie software, it was bought by IBM, you saw the bare metal movement still kind of going on. You still have the enterprise needs. You started a company recently, we'll talk about it in a second, but Peer 2.0, this isn't a grassroots organization of internet engineering dudes, right, who have actually built large-scale networks, you know, from scratch, we're talking about the old DSUCSU days now to full-on big network where there's a lot at stake, you know, net neutrality, you got the innovation of things like Netflix, which came out of all this greatness, you know, you involved the dig. What is this group of these internet engineering industry guys? What are they doing? What's the purpose? What's going on? Folks, what's happening with Peer 2.0? I think there's two important categories of people attending something like this. One category is, of course, the traditional peering engineers. These are the guys who literally guard the gates. They're the ones who configure the routers that allow a network like, I don't know, like Google's network for Gmail to connect to AOL so that emails can travel from one to the other, right? These guys have been the same guys for like 10 years, right? And so part of the crowd are those original folks, and I know them all from the years of doing that. But the other group, since we've gone all virtualized with cloud services, now there's this whole other group of people who want to connect directly, not necessarily for that purpose, but to Amazon Web Services, say, or to any of the SaaS services that make up an enterprise. And so now interconnection is no longer just for that, you know, 100 people who are doing it. For now, it's any enterprise cares about this stuff. It's much bigger than it used to be. And also there's security involved, so you talk about, you know, there's also traffic issues like this quality of service has always been the big debate of, okay, I got to traverse different carriers, different networks, who's doing deep packet inspection, U.S., foreign, this is all huge issues, right? Well, the more diverse you are, the less of a single point where a person can monitor you, you know? And that's always been true. I think one of the challenges right now politically is that there's a bit of a confusion between network neutrality, this issue of the last mile to the home and, you know, preferential treatment, and network interconnection, which actually hasn't changed. Companies like Netflix have been connecting to companies like Comcast, that's how the internet works for like the last 20 years. It's just that now it gets attention because it gets conflated accidentally with this, you know, fast lane issue.  Smokes on that free internet. But the reality is there's some business to be done here. IAX just got funding $10 million from NDA. So there's obviously business to be had, there's still innovation happening. Obviously, you know, you started a company around SaaS. We have our CrowdChat application, all DevOps. This new school of startups are coming out where they don't need a zillion dollars to get started because they don't have the tax, open source, and cloud combined give the entry startup ability to get going. So what's the business model? Where's the innovation? Well, it's, okay. So it's true that it costs less money to start a company. And that's awesome, believe me. If I had that freedom to start a company for so cheap, I would have started twice as many companies, you know, and it would have been great. That also means, though, that there's a greater percentage of companies that don't make it. The good news is there is less at stake. So if you test an idea with your market and it doesn't work, you know, there aren't people who have lost tens of millions of dollars on your attempt. The other thing is the speed of deployment is insane. I mean, what's happening now is a typical company, like I walk into these businesses all the time in San Francisco, they're deploying code every hour. And if it breaks, you know, it regress back to the last version. It's not that big a deal. You know, it's like, it is a completely different universe of speed and innovation. And that's awesome. It creates a little chaos in managing all of that, you know, and the company I started a year and a half ago, OpSomatic, I co-founded it with Jim Stoneman and Mikhail Benchenko. It's basically around all that chaos. Like if you've got all of this, you know, rapid deployment and so forth, how do you manage that? How do you keep an eye on everything at the same time? So it's born of the cloud startups. You're targeting folks that are doing development in the cloud. Yeah, you know, theoretically it could be anywhere, but is anyone developing anywhere else? No, I mean, under their desk, on a local host, but I mean, outside of that, you got to put it somewhere. I still have a rack at Equinix and I get laughed at all the time by like developers in the city. They're like, like, really, you have a rack? Like, do you have a router?  It's a nice badge of honor. It is cool. It's cool. So Jay, talking about, you know, kind of the changing expectations of the people, you know, the young kids that just sat through your presentation that have no idea of the reality that you described only 15 short years ago. I mean, how is the expectation and the behavior of the applications and connectivity and speed pacing against the reality of the old guys that are trying to keep up, as well as the new people that are using software and some other tricks. Has that completely flipped and are we able to keep up the guys kind of down into the engine room? Well, the good news is automation, virtualization, the ability to like, you know, attach a bunch of resources to a problem is not instantaneous, but I mean, just to give you an idea, if I had to increase bandwidth between Comcast and Netflix, you know, 15 years ago, that would have been a multi-month operation and investing millions of dollars in new gear. Now, even on the telecom side, I can deploy services incredibly fast and, you know, ethernet. I can just deploy another 10 gig interface, you know? I mean, so the technology has gotten to the point where we're not waiting for technology. I think that there's bureaucracy, there's regulatory, there's other kind of friction in some of this. There's, of course, the negotiation. That has not changed, right?  What are the big issues technically in terms of the discussions here? I mean, there's some real alpha geeks here.  What is the big technical issue in your opinion that people are focusing on? You know, that's a great question. I think, honestly, it's less of a technical issue. I think it's more of a architectural, you know, sort of strategic one, where you're going from a world where you have been a consumer of traffic exclusively, where you sit behind a service provider, like, I don't know, AT&T or something, and you just throw all your traffic through that port in the wall, and you say, okay, there it is, you know, good luck, to one where the content provider, the consumer of that traffic, is now stepping into a different architecture where they are in control of those relationships and those interconnections and, you know, that whole sort of backbone level of engineering. So that leap does require that the person at the enterprise who, it doesn't necessarily have to know how to configure that equipment, but they have to understand the sort of the qualitative security, economic constraints and realities around that world. And, you know, I think that's a good thing because it makes us all more secure and, you know, we want that clue inside of all these companies, but it is a leap. It's not something that needed to exist before probably a couple of years ago. So I want to switch gears and talk to you about some of the things that are happening kind of in the current event. I see cloud mobile and social's been big trend. iPhones, you know, 2007 launch, changing game, obviously mobility is a big part of it. The app craze is seeing all the valuations around control. Social media has certainly changed significantly now. You're seeing almost a trajectory. Some say it looks like the web or the early days where, you know, you were part of with dig and, you know, I was at Pontech in the early days where there was the first generation of kind of tinkering around with social, then it became the hype phase. But then, you know, Facebook, LinkedIn, all the other infrastructures in place and you're seeing the trend towards social business where you're starting to see web presence. Then back in the days, you know, people had to have a website. What do I do next? These were the questions you mentioned that. So the web was put a website up and then it was kind of laughed at. People did business on the web. Digital became primary. Social was kind of laughed at initially. It's just, you know, for PR or for kids. Now you're seeing more systematic infrastructure. Yeah. So what's your take on that evolution? Do you think it's real? Is it going to happen sooner than later? Is there a bubble bursting? In what's your take on social media as it tries to get mainstream with the business impact? Well, I think us calling it social media is the first thing that's going to change. Like it's sort of like we finally figured out we were waiting for mobile to take off. Like when's the mobile market going to hit? And of course we all agree it's a mega trend. But what we finally figured out is it's actually not a category. It's just an additional screen. And once we understood that it kind of changed our way of interacting. I think social media is kind of the same thing. It's not that there is this category of social media that is now the new hotness. We're finally recognizing that it is simply that is what media is. And that is just the way we communicate. And that's the way we advertise our businesses. And that's the way we engage with our communities. It's just reality. So I don't think that like an enterprise today even has to necessarily do anything to make that real. It's just accepted as reality. I can tell you most of the companies I advise probably doesn't do most of their communication with their audience in places besides their destination websites now, right? On Twitter, for example. I mean just this conference where this is how we communicate with people. So it's different. So native, it's just basically no one's gonna talk about just it is what it is. It just is what it is. Yeah, and that's hard for me to, you know, when you fought the battle like building Dig and like, you know, establishing community and getting people to use social media and you're fighting and you're fighting. And now it's just taken for granted. There's a little grumpy old man to me who's like, get up, get up, I was there. We fought hard. But you guys found that, I mean, Dig was truly the first crowdsourcing dynamic. There was also tech forums and IRC all that stuff that we were familiar with. But then when you started getting into the dynamic where there was actually a forum and the dynamics, the crowds storming, the crowdsourcing. The crowds storming is sometimes very accurate. Storming the gates, take down that code.  And I always find it interesting with the kind of really large enterprises that have so tightly controlled their messaging, so tightly controlled their logo access, so tightly controlled these things that are they really ready to kind of let somebody say stuff about you when there's going to be always some percentage that you don't necessarily like, agree with, or feel comfortable. So. And you're not in control. And you're not in control. So you could tell that little story before and you were progressive and on the front edge. This is very different than some of the Fortune 500s that are having to face this every day.  So, and sometimes it's just from a corporate culture standpoint impossible for them to react to these changes.  Here we were a crowdsourced medium, you know, where buttons were on everyone else's website to, you know, dig stories and the actual homepage of the site was dictated by the users. That's the whole point of what Dig was, right? So to some extent it shouldn't have been a shock to us that users would start posting things that maybe weren't legal. And there was this thing with HDVD and Blu-ray. So I guess one of our users figured out how to crack the HDVD key and posted the HDVD key like the number code. So we're like, okay, that's whatever it's nerdy. No one's going to notice. But sure enough, you know, we get the DMCA. What is it? The cease and desist letter. And so we're like, well, what are we going to do? So we took it down thinking, well, okay, whatever. It's one story out of a million. Our users decided that wasn't okay and started resubmitting the story using the code as the title of the story. And then we would delete that and they would submit it faster. And then we create an algorithm and then they would create an alternative way of presenting the information. They had a guy who recorded himself on the video singing the code numbers. I love that. And this just, finally, we were getting like, I think two submissions a second and the whole site became 100% the HDVD key. There was no way to operate the business. Ads wouldn't load. Dogs and cats living together, a mass hysteria. And yeah, I mean, as wacky as that was, I mean, really the only way to solve the problem was to post a blog post that said the title of our blog post to our community was the code number and said, we give in, you win, you run the site, not us. And what happened on the legal side? Nothing because the reality is with any of that, you know, EFF guys will tell you this too. There's really nothing they can do, you know. The real solution turns out to be incredibly transparent. So communities will accept that you have legal responsibilities but you can't do it in a vacuum. You have to like, we ended up posting the cease and desist letters to this website called Chilling Effects, which, you know, the EFF I guess is involved in. And posting those things really made a huge difference because then when you consider users, hey, this thing we removed, here's why. No, complain about it with us, we're on your team, we're in this together. And that was probably the skill set we developed. Jay, talk about the current social network situation. I see Twitter had great earnings and they're trying to shift the game a little bit. They're starting to talk about words like producer, consumer, more traffic hitting their site that aren't logging in. So you're seeing people with the user experience for Twitter kind of struggling but they're changing.  And you got LinkedIn kind of doing the business thing, trying to be relevant there. Will there be siloed social networks continuing to come along? You see that trend. And then what do you think of Twitter relative to the crowdsourcing? Are they unique? Will they compete with Facebook? Give us your view of what's going on in the social network. Will there be a lot of social networks out there? Is there a long tail effect for networks? And then what about the big three? Well, that's great. That's a huge area of focus. Yeah, I do think that there is a place for different kinds of social networks that will appeal. If you go back to Gina Biancini and Mark Andreis and they co-founded Ning about, I guess, it's going to be like 10 years ago, the concept behind that business was, hey, there's probably a social network for everything. If you consider that, maybe product market timing wasn't quite right. I think that's becoming truer today. Now, can Facebook and Twitter own that? I think the majority. I think there's a certain inertia that's going to be hard to get by. Sort of like there were better search engines in Google that came out a few years after Google, but they couldn't beat the dominance of Google. Although they beat the ones that came out ahead of them. Well, that's absolutely true. They innovated. They chased the portal days. They chased the portals of the Google's estate through search. And I think there's a critical mass that you get to that makes it very hard to beat. Now, that being said, we've seen the rise of ephemeral applications, things like Secret and Whisper and chat applications So I think that there are sort of application specific opportunities for a while. That's where you're going to see innovations that I wouldn't say necessarily take share away from Twitter and Facebook, but certainly take airtime, particularly for digital natives and the growing teams. So take territory in a growing market. In a growing market. And then they get acquired, right? Right, right, right. Hopefully not shut down. Yeah, it'll be slow. I'm a big fan of Path, which is a sort of alternative mobile only social network. And there's room for innovation here outside of the big guys. Now, Twitter is kind of an interesting case though, because it's, I never really defined Twitter as a social network. The way I look at Twitter is it's more like, it's probably more akin to Sirius FM and Radio than it is a social network because everyone's got a radio station. Whether or not you happen to tune into their radio station is a whole matter. Vertical targeting media, very targeted. Country music is country music, right? That's right. And organizing all of Twitter into relevant ways is a whole line of business. There's all these companies that set up shop that basically focus on how to make Twitter interesting. And it's great as an advertising medium. I'm going to just say that I tried it. Like I was a total skeptic and then we rolled it out and we got a ton of clicks through conversions. So it's shocking how good it is. So there's, Twitter is to me like a communication medium that social networks use. It's almost like the replacement for email in a way. It is. Well, what's interesting is you can actually direct connect to someone via Twitter as if you had their email. Absolutely, it is, it's brilliant. You're broadcasting not radio frequency, but semantic data. Yeah, there's metadata. It's crazy and I love it for that reason. I do think that the noise on Twitter far outweighs the content and so I do think there will be a certain Twitter fatigue that happens over the next couple of years. And so I don't think it's ever going to go away but I do think that it's just not something that people are going to have running on their desktop 24 by seven watching the feed go by. And I think to me, my Twitter, I'm belly-bullish on Twitter, but to me my Twitter moment was obviously watching it grow up from the beginning was, watching how great it was as a medium, but when Susan made it on TV and they trumped Facebook, then that was when I had my URL moment like, okay, when it makes TV, you're on reach medium, then it's hard to displace that. So when you start seeing Twitter lose the TV position, I think then you're like, okay, then they're hurting, but until they're not losing it. But no one's trying to take it. You know, my co-founder of Revision 3, a guy named Kevin Rose, you may have heard of. Kevin actually launched a competitor to Twitter at Twitter's early days and arguably a better product called Pounce and it just didn't quite catch on. Anyway. So talk about your startup. Get the plug-in, we've got a new startup, Opsmatic, go into detail. What is it? Give us the quick. So Opsmatic, real quick version of Opsmatic. Opsmatic is a product for the DevOps side of your business. So developers and ops folk who are managing server infrastructure. And what it is, is an agent that you install in all of your servers that only detects change in configuration. And those changes are broadcast back to a central coordinator, which then basically has live state, real time of your entire infrastructure. So if you want to go back to last Thursday at three o'clock in the morning and see who logged in and what changed and what file dependency shifted when you ran this puppet run or the chef run, you can see exactly what happened. You're the drop cam for DevOps. Yeah. It's like drop cam and time machine for DevOps. Really, so you can go in and so from a troubleshooting standpoint, is that the primary thing or looking at optimization? Is that really the primary use case? Yeah, it's, you know, I think that any organization that is changing in real time, pushing stuff to production regularly, is basically in a position where entropy happens. Things change on machines that you don't expect to happen, which lead to things breaking. And the problem with that is that, that's expected, people embrace change, change is fine and entropy is fine and things break all the time. But being able to get to root cause and understanding sort of the situation, because in this world of managing Unix machines in particular, you have a thousand files on that machine, all that have some kind of impact.  So all of the dependencies and underlying file system, there's all these things that can go wrong and we shouldn't expect you to know to look. So for example, the OpenSSL thing that happened, the Heartbleed, just try and run a search across your 1200, you know, server instances for what version OpenSSL is running on all those machines. Our product, because it knows everything about every machine, you type OpenSSL into a search box, bam, it tells you the version on all of your machines and you can immediately go and localize this kind of stuff. It's, once you see it, do you realize that the opportunity as a platform is produced? Splunk has certainly got some success on the big data side with log files in a similar weird way, but not directly, but similar kind of advancement in terms of making it easier for folks to deploy and efficiently do stuff. Yeah, Splunk is fantastic. You know, the presumption is your log file has everything in it, right? And so our customers use both. Jay, great to have you here. We're at Pier 2.0 live here. This is theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, Jeff Frick. Jay, we have a final word for you. What's next for you? Will you continue working on the startup? Other investments? What are you going to work on? Starting a venture capital firm. Okay, we should have another 30 minutes. How about that? You got the scoop here. The resumes are falling. Any timing on that? And you want to announce? It's happening. Not quite yet, but. Can you actually talk about raising money? I think that's technically now. You can do that, some sort of like law. You can't disclose, but we'll put it out there. I'm, you know, it's going to take me a long time, like a year, year and a half, but it's a lot of work and I'm just starting. Jay Ellison, serial entrepreneur here inside theCUBE. We'll be right back with our next guest here. Peer 2.0, I'm John Furrier, Jeff Frick. We'll be right back. Thanks.


The second batch of 6A29 Super Tucano aircraft has departed the United States of America for Nigeria, and thus according to a Facebook post by presidential assistant on digital media Toluogunlesi, the planes are expected in the country within five days. The first set of six were delivered on July 22nd. The A29 Super Tucano is a light attack aircraft which carries a variety of weapons. It will be used in Nigeria's fight against terrorists and other criminals in the country.


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Hello from Embedded World in Nuremberg. Now ST recently announced plans to develop a complete line of STM32 microcontrollers using Semtec's Laura long-range wireless technology. With more details, I'm joined by Hakim Jafar. He is the STM32 RF marketing manager. So what was behind the decision to license Laura's IP from Semtec? Hi Chris. So today in IoT there is a lot of innovation to connect a lot of object and this activity is booming, right? So Laura is one of this innovation, bringing a real efficient low-power wireless IRRA network which is low-cost, robust, offering localization, offering a lot of new feature innovation and therefore ST has decided to move on with Semtec's Laura technology. Now I know you want to develop the STM32 family with Laura, so what are you targeting and when will it be available? Right, so when we decided to license the Laura technology, it was really to boost our well-known STM32 product, right? So what we are doing, we will bring shortly to the market an STM32 embedding Laura technology. Within this time, we will offer a lot of new features and a lot of solutions to the market and therefore we already have started showing things to our customers. And Hakim, I understand this technology is here in action today at Embedded World. Right, in fact at Embedded World we developed a network with our partner Semtec. So we developed five tags, the tags are based with a STM32 device, the Semtec device which embedding the Laura technology and a couple of sensors, humidity, temperature. We built five of them and we look at them in different places. One is at ST booth here, one is at meeting booth, meeting room from ST, another one is at Semtec booth, Aura booth and one is outside. And all of them are collecting the data, sending them through the gateway, going to the cloud and we can access through this PC to a cloud and we can see on real time in fact all the data collection. And so it shows that it works. And what we want to say is, hardware is there from ST, from Semtec, we provide the software so let's get started. Hakim and Sabri to talk to you and the very best of luck with the project. Thank you very much Chris.