Live from San Francisco, extracting the signal from the noise, it's theCUBE, covering VMworld 2015, brought to you by VMware and its ecosystem sponsors. And now your host, Dave Vellante. Welcome back to Moscone, everybody. This is theCUBE. theCUBE is in its sixth year at VMworld. We're here at VMworld 2015 in Moscone North. theCUBE goes out, we extract the signal from the noise. Our friend Rob Stresche is here. He's with HP. We're going to talk hyperconvergence, Rob. Great to see you again. Thanks for having me back. Really appreciate it. So Stu, we've been covering this whole space. We came out with a server sand forecast a couple years ago. You guys came out right at the top of the list. So let's start with sort of what hyperconvergence is to you guys. The thing we like about hyperconvergence is, unlike software defined, hyperconvergence kind of came up out of the community. One of the alpha geeks, I think coined it. So it's not a vendor term. Something that came from the community. But so what does it all mean to you and HP? Yeah, so I think at HP we look at it as an extension of ease of management, ease of deployment. How do you get something up and running where I don't need a specialist? And for us, really that takes the form of our CS250 store virtual product, which is our four node and one appliance product that comes up, it's pre-integrated with VMware. By the licenses you light it up in 15 minutes or less. I think what it means is that there's a new design point and I think a lot of people across the industry are really looking at it as, I don't want to have a storage specialist anymore. I really need to understand and how to bring a cloud admin, a VMware admin, a virtualization admin in general, and they need to be able to deploy all the way up to almost the DevOps layer, like the nice talk about Ansible and Puppet and Chef and how can I integrate in with those? So people don't even need to know what the infrastructure is. And I think we also talk about composable infrastructure and how it's CPU memory and storage and used in different ways to solve application use cases or workloads. That's kind of where we look at it, playing is it's a piece of the puzzle, it's not the whole puzzle from our perspective. So it's coming, you're saying the driver is coming from the customer base standpoint, middle out, middle up, not really top down or even necessarily bottoms up. It's that mid-level company that has it big enough to have problems but doesn't have the skill sets to be able to just have these separate silos of expertise. Yeah, exactly. I think a lot of where we see hyperconvergence being adopted mainly is Robo. So I don't have IT people in Indonesia but I need a product that I can put in there that can quickly come up with people just plugging it in, plugging in some ethernet cables and I'm up and running. How do I get to there and have the data services that stretch back to my core and may not be hyperconverged back in the core? Because companies are sweating their assets a lot longer these days and they're looking for how do I bridge the gap between hyperconverged and non-hyperconverged or traditional infrastructure that they're having there. So talk a little bit about what you guys announced a couple of weeks ago leading up to VMworld and what you're showing here and what the reaction is for customers. Sure, so about two weeks ago we announced the next version on our Gen9 ProLiant hardware of our CS200 family and it's our CS250 store virtual and what it is doing is bringing VMware's 5.5 or 6.0 pre-integrated into a three or four node configuration so a lower price point for the three node obviously. We also put in there as part of the package three four terabyte licenses of our software only product and the reason we did that was customers had been telling us for the past six months how do I get DR quickly and affordably without having to buy yet another box to put somewhere else. So part of what we did was by putting the VSA software our virtual storage appliance software in there it allows us to help them get higher ROI out of existing infrastructure back in their core they just put those VSAs there. Yeah, so Rob one of the things people have had a little bit of difficulty understanding in this space is you described it as an evolution. Some people say no no it's a revolution. These new companies coming out in the valley even in our neck of the woods up in Massachusetts where I'm re-architecting and I'm taking the old way I'm putting it together and VMware's VSA didn't do great in the marketplace and therefore there are some that look at that oh well that was a failed attempt. The history of the software product that went into the announcement I mean been along for a lot of years I mean those of us that have been around remember it was left hand that was a great I SCSI solution HP bought it it was the first VSA when we talked about software define it was there so can you walk us through a little bit about the what's been re-architected what's still there and why does it have a right to be in the discussion with all this cool buzzy new stuff. Yeah I think that's great I think it we've all been around the industry for a while and everything that's old is new again right I mean virtualization is not new where we're going with software defined data centers isn't new composable infrastructure isn't new I mean a lot of this has been there from the main frame for decades I kind of look at our VSA technology being eight years in you know as the grandfather or somebody called it I believe James Brown of software defined storage which I like better than grandfather and you look at it and say well why is it in the conversation well you still need these robust data services and I think storage technology is difficult we've had eight years of working with our customers on this and getting it right I think that what did change and I think what the people who are out there startups that are out there capitalized on the change of operations and they got simplicity really well and they get it so how fast can get up and running how easy is it to manage day to day they did a good job with that and I give our competitors really high marks on that I think what's different now is we've simplified that so using abstraction layers like VMware's vCenter so that's where you go in our one view for VMware vCenter plug-in and you're able to now have that single pane of glass in there and do your day to day management because what we found is our customers didn't want to move context from VMware into our management consoles and then back again they want everything to be in one spot yeah so what would you say is it a virtualization admin some of the VMware is it that simple do I just use vCenter is this an extent to what they do and kind of compare contrast to how if this was two years ago the solution looked yeah and I think that's exactly where we're headed I think that we would like a lot more of our stuff to be exposed through there and we're going there and that's with each release we do about four releases of that software a year and each release it gets simpler not only for our hyper-converged systems but for our three-par systems as well so what we've found is that people just want to abstract it down and I think that as we keep going each release that's where people want to be they're not looking to have us yet another single pane of glass and I think that's where some of the hyper-converged people forcing you outside of vCenter or if it's in a Microsoft environment being forced out of their operations management framework with SCOM and VMM it really doesn't play well in those so it leads me to the next question which is you got all these megatrends you got cloud, you got open, open stack you got containers now popping up what does all that mean from the hyper-converged standpoint and what's HP's strategy around those yeah so I think you'll see us part of the reason why we've leveraged the store virtual underlying technology is that right now today it already plays on Hyper-V it already plays in KVM we have it as a standard feature of our helium open stack so if you go buy a license of helium open stack you get a license for that server of store virtual it's part of the solution there's no, and then we do a lot of integration we'll probably be for Liberty and about a month now we'll be one of the top contributor if not the number one contributor in lines of code and you'll see we'll bring new things for Cinder and Manila which are the APIs I think that's really the key is the API economy as Meg started to talk about it's more the workload economy and how do we keep moving that forward it's really gonna change things and it's how do we keep that in mind for our customers because they don't care about Hypervisor as much they want to know it's supported 5.9s available and cost effective and I think that's where our focus is on how to make it more cost effective so Rob, we talk about use cases you know, does the, you know, we look at hyperconverge is this a robot solution is this the on-premises version of my hybrid cloud all the above, you know how do you see that playing out and how does HP solutions that fit that so we look at it as being really nicely set for things like VDI which has been one of the main use cases we also see it for departmental databases manufacturing and oil and exploration production has really because these things can go into areas that are hostile environments so we have people who run things like SAP for their manufacturing but they need 5.9s and they want to do a stretch cluster across their manufacturing facility because if one side of the factory if they're doing stuff that is volatile blows up they need to still be able to run the control systems on the other side so that criticality is really some of the use cases we're seeing for it. All right, so here at VMworld last year you know, the VSAN EVO family announcement we're really big everybody was talking about hyperconverge I fast forward a year and VSAN is important I've talked to some VSAN customers most of them are taking VSAN not a ready node not an EVO they're kind of building their own stack EVO rail, I don't hear it discussed as much and the EVO SDDC is coming out next year so bring us up, what's the HP relationship there what are you hearing from customers at the show? Yeah, so I mean the elephant in the room that we discontinued EVO about a month ago and we're really focusing on our relationship with them and the pre-integration that we do do still with ESX and we are building on that relationship which is a 15-year relationship we still resell VSAN as you know and we have more VSAN ready nodes than any other partner of VMware still Any commentary, I know you've got the solution set customer adoption of VSAN in general? I don't, we don't comment on specific sales numbers for specific product lines we have a lot of VMware certified people around the world that are helping customers with it so I think what we've seen is that just in the hyper-converged space and in the storage space it made more sense for us to focus on our intellectual property from the store virtual side it also allowed us to have a little bit more configuration leniency based on it rail was a reference architecture whereas we can focus on needing some more flexible needs of our customers quickly So I know you don't share numbers from the VSAN but from store virtual, I mean you've got thousands of customers that have been using it years our estimated revenue showed that your hyper-converged segment grew over 50% revenue wise and had you as one of the top players in that space Any numbers you can share? I can't share any specific numbers about it I can say that our sales of the hyper-converged platform have been very robust and I think that we're looking forward to revisiting the numbers in the hyper-converged market over the course of the year here and we've only been out for six months we're on our second generation platform already and I think that it's really hitting that inflection point And Robert, it sounds like you've got pretty clear swim lanes between the hyper-converged and so the rest of the portfolio Is that, well I think that's fair to say based on, but from a positioning standpoint do those swim lanes start to get some gray area and clouded? Or how far can it go? Yeah, so it's naturally, I think that if you look at a good customer example was I have a SQL database that's 24 VCPUs with 50 terabyte data set Do I do that on hyper-converged or not? And where do I do that? Everybody else is going to say you go of course you do a hyper-converged or you do it this way we can look at that and say, you know what really that should be on blades or on a DL platform and an all-flash array and I think part of what we try to do is really make sure it works for the customer versus trying to force-feed hyper-converged even though I'm the hyper-converged guy I still know in reality our customers are going to look at where does it fit? Okay, last question, Rob so what should we be watching, you know I mean you guys are on a pretty fast cadence of announcements, we've got HP Discover coming up at the end of the year without given specifics what are the things that observers should be paying attention to indicators of success, momentum, progress? Yeah, so we'll be rolling out and discussing and having a lot of our customers out there talking about the solutions that they've done both in the build your own space with software-defined storage as well in the hyper-converged space I think you'll see us with a number of product announcements between now and Discover including Discover that will take where we are today to the next level and I think there's some indicators about bringing the families closer together across the storage portfolio that will be announcing as well over the course of the year. Awesome, well Rob, thanks very much for coming to the CUBE HP we're seeing the evolution of the portfolio and a lot of success so congratulations on that and really appreciate you coming on. All right, keep it right there everybody we'll be back with our next guest this is theCUBE, we're live from Moscone 2015 VMworld, right back.


Welcome in ladies and gentlemen week one of the 2022 NFL season is not over yet We've still got Monday night football here tonight with Russell Wilson's revenge game against the Seattle Seahawks Happening on ESPN, but we welcome you guys into the week one recap show that we do every Monday on this channel That we like to call time to football. My name is a song on the host of this channel Glad you guys are a part of it. Listen. 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This is what we're gonna do on the show We're gonna have fun. We're gonna relax. We're gonna talk about football talk about your favorite teams What happened in week one of the 2022 season this past Sunday? We're gonna talk about teams Whether they were fluke victories, or are they actually the real deal before we get into which teams are flukes and which teams are actually legit I actually have Something for you. Okay. Well Not quite something for you. It could be That you don't win this. It's actually a prize. I have a surprise for you That's we are sponsored by man scapes. Okay for real for real Man scape is one of the sponsors for this month. At least they're you know, we might resign another deal after this month We have to see but what man scape decided to do as a gift to us is Reward us with the lawnmower 4.0 package. 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That was an actual All right, here we go week one first question The Colts and Texans game ended in a tie what other game almost ended in a tie in overtime Eagles Lions B Browns Panthers C Saints Falcons or D Steelers bangles Steelers bangles. Is that your final answer? That's my final answer Well, Anthony. I mean for the first question you are correct. You move on Question two Which quarterback through the most passing yards yesterday is it's a Joe burrow be Patrick Mahomes C Derek Carr or D Carson Wentz. Are you going to use that lifeline? I think I am Okay, he's calling a friend calling a friend Yes, he picked up Put on my speaker bet. Yeah Travis right now. I'm trying to get this man scaper, right? And I just need to answer these questions correctly So I'm calling a friend for this one question. Here's the question Hassan meet Travis Travis me Hassan Nice to meet you Travis. So here is the question Which quarterback through the most passing yards yesterday was it a Joe burrow B? Patrick Mahomes C Derek Carr or D Carson Wentz I don't get this man scaper who Oh No, no, no, no No, I disagree strongly Okay, okay I don't know. That's why I'm calling you Travis. I thought it was I thought I was Patrick Mahomes All right, hey That's that's gonna be our final answer. That's why we're going with Patrick Mahomes That's my home's final answer. Yep the correct answer is Patrick Mahomes Yo, appreciate you T that was two questions in and you already used a lifeline, so that's okay question three you got three more Let's do it Which team Had the biggest margin of victory so who beat their team by the most amount of money points a Ravens against the Jets B Vikings against the Packers a Hey, bro, 27 to 3. I think it was go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry. That was rude. That was rude. See what was that? See chiefs versus Cardinals and D Buccaneers versus Cowboys dang it. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say the Ravens and Jets I'm sticking with that one Ravens and Jets final answer Yeah, that's my final answer Well, Anthony May have to Stay ungroomed for a week because the final answer was actually chiefs versus Cardinals Correct answer. So unfortunately Yeah, Ravens Jets margin of victory was 15 points they won 24 to 9 Chiefs Cardinals 44 to 21 Was the final score So unfortunately Anthony you do not win the Manscaped lawnmower 4.0 But you guys can get the lawnmower 4.0 if you click that link in the description use the promo code t2f No, and you get a 20% discount We're disagreeing with not with you being wrong You're just gonna give away my Manscaper like that. You have a chance to win every week We're gonna do this so you have another chance But the questions are gonna get, you know switched up. So you don't know What's coming? That's what she said. Anyways Moving on now, let's get into the NFL portion of this show where we talk about which teams are Legit and which teams are fluke So I sent you a list of teams that pulled off an upset victory a lot of them. Yeah, it's week one There are sloppy games, but we're gonna go one one by one with all these teams And you tell me whether they're gonna be a legit this year or it's just a fluke So first off, let's start with the Minnesota Vikings. Do you feel like that they are legit or fluke?  It's pretty bad The defense is trash Their offense is a very explosive, but I'm old school defense wins championships.  I said Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what that's exactly what you said Okay, well you think that there are fluke I say they are legit I think that this defense and we feel like it got better in the draft. It got better. They added key pieces like Zadaria Smith and You talked about the Vikings offense I think everyone knew that this Vikings offense was gonna be legit. It's crazy. Like it's crazy good Justin Jefferson almost 200 yards receiving like that's incredible, but Yeah, I'm gonna say legit and I know that what we talk about which teams are fine or in trouble. We're gonna talk about the Green Bay Packers But I know it's just week one and I know that Packers. No, maybe it's just an off week, but The Vikings showed what they're capable of and I think that yeah, they could make a run if not the NFC North Championship at least a Playoff spot Rodgers look lost without Adams.  He looked lost It was pretty bad. I don't know if you saw the drop by Christian Watson. Oh my gosh, that was a TD That was Devonte Adams rookie would have broken that would have caught that Yeah, you're right. You're right. Talking about the next team the Pittsburgh Steelers overtime victory last second against the Cincinnati Bengals Upset victory Steelers legit or fluke. It's like a relationship, right? Okay? You either have a good relationship and Have some bad days or you have a bad relationship. It has some good days. I just think the Bengals had a bad day I mean they need a new kicker He's trash Whoa, he you heard it here first ladies and gentlemen Evan McPherson McPherson Who's gonna be the next Justin Tucker? I'm a big Evan McPherson. Yeah, I'm a huge you are last year Last year he missed three field goal attempt like it was there's like 20 yards out He missed three in one game Hassan. Yes. I understand. I get that Bengals Packers game was crazy But dude, I was I was on the Evan McPherson train before anyone knew Evan McPherson I don't know if you saw that highlight clip of McPherson when he was at Florida Kicking the football and it hits like that Gatorade bottle on top the railing. Do you know what I'm talking about? It's a But that was in Florida, but that was that okay in Cincinnati He's missing three field goal attempts game winners, bro, and then he missed it yesterday You know, it's funny I was watching the game on my dad and he could change the channels It's like no son. He's a field goal range. This game is over You would think I know that the bangles kicker. This is my word the bangles kicker is a choker Like he's well gonna miss it to his defense one of them the extra point I think was blocked and then another field goal It was a high snap put it down the laces were towards and didn't have time to turn it So I okay. Well, but anyway, you know anyways, but the Steelers like you think that they're they are a fluke Yeah, I think they're a fluke. I think they're fluke and I think I think Joe Burrow needs to go see James Winston's eye doctor Yesterday because Winston had a great game. Yeah, I had his eye surgery and then burrow out of a Super Bowl debut Those four interceptions a little bit of a little bit of rust it looked like but I mean He he posted on social media a countdown until the season opener and did not work out for burrow with that countdown What are you doing over the summer burrow? Yeah, thanks Um Have you seen that clip of Najee Harris were a reporter asks him It was the most fun thing you did in the summer and then Harris is just like Like looking around trying like not to answer. I'm like, oh, there's probably a lot of like You know things too many things ran through his mind. Yeah. Yeah, like which one is TV appropriate nine of them And then he just said yeah, he said something like training or whatever. It's like a safe answer. Yeah, that's just that's a safe Now with my guys is great. I'm gonna say that the Steelers I Don't think they're a fluke Can I put them in the middle? No, no, all right, then I'm gonna say legit Seriously, I'm gonna say legit you beat the defending AFC champions, which we Discussed last week I said that we expect them to take a little bit of a regression just because everybody else got better The Steelers are one of those teams that got better and it was week one There's a little bit of rust I think if the suit was faced the Bengals any other week besides week one Where you're in mid-season form? I think the Bengals would have lost or the Bengals would have won but You still beat the defending AFC champions I'm gonna give the Steelers credit because I'm a positive guy unlike Anthony. So there you go stealer nations I got your back. Yeah All right, we can agree with this one Chicago Bears flu Yeah, it's a fluke. They tried to dry the feel off with a towel that didn't that ain't where you see that Yeah, there's they got a flag. They throw a flag on them for that I saw the yeah a lot of pregame stuff They're using like the squeegees and like the I saw one picture were like the rain messed up like the chalk on the sidelines So like ten minutes before the game.  They did that looked like fun. Yeah little slip and slide. That was cool That was cool. Yeah, but fluke I think a lot of people thought that this was gonna be the one of the worst teams in the NFL And I still feel like that it's it's like that but you know, not rookie quarterback, but second-year quarterback pretty much First game starting as a full-time starter for the 49ers Yeah, there's gonna be some mishaps and the Bears Maybe they're maybe they could prove us wrong But I think you know, I agree that they're flukes but the Houston Texans now they didn't win But they stood toe-to-toe with the AFC South Projected winners that a lot of people have in the Indianapolis Colts are the Texans legit or they a fluke You mean like are they gonna do something this year?  Okay? Fair enough, bro. Have I had a legit yet?  Never make them a sponsor next chicken salad chick come to Football please so that Anthony can answer five questions in a row and win a sandwich. I don't know. I've never been there What did this sell is great? You gotta check it out. It's called a fancy Nancy. It's really delicious. Dude. I'll buy you lunch Check it out Houston Texans for me can't choose in the middle. No, it's fluke or legit Hassan Stop being lukewarm fluke Dang it man. There we go. Dang it. Yeah, I agree. I gotta I Mean that was good. That was good that they stood toe-to-toe with the Indianapolis Colts, but Yeah, I don't I don't think that they're really gonna they're gonna play spoiler with a lot of teams Like they're gonna be that pesty little team that's like dang it. I shouldn't have lost to them, you know Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say the Texans are a fluke, but I will give them credit. They did have a good game My immediate offense is this gonna be the first legit on your list? Yep Miami Dolphins ain't nothing to play with none to a hill. That's it. That's like Madden That's all you're doing all day to it a hill, but what is to us throwing power in Madden? This is the ice squint for me. I don't know. It's like a 86 Might be it might be that's what I would rate him. He looked great No, Tyree kill eight receptions 94 yards jail and water got a little bit involved. I Say the Dolphins are legit as well. Yeah You know, you don't beat the New England Patriots Bilbao check lead Matt Patricia calling the offense. Oh but No, the Dolphins I think are gonna make some noise with the new head coach and The run game eventually is gonna start getting better and better and then that's gonna be very very dangerous So the Dolphins I agree are legit now The last team that pulled off an upset the New York Giants in dramatic fashion. How about that? Very ballsy. Let's go going for two. Let's go. That's right going for two You know why cuz we're winners. Okay, that's it at the end of the day. We're winners There's nothing else to it. There's nothing else to it. We try to change a culture Up in that franchise and how we do that is by winning So no, we're not gonna go and tie it up. We'll let the rest of the NFL Tie it up. No, how many who tied Houston and Colts so many ties going Yesterday, no Giants were like, listen, we're going for this thing Give it to give it to thighs Say quad Barkley say quad say quad. Yeah, you brought it in there. Yeah for two the Giants I'm gonna say we're a fluke dude. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You don't want me on this show. You don't so I They're legit. I'm just here. So I don't get fine. Please stay Tell me what I want to hear is on So the Giants Not what you want to hear. I'm gonna say they're a fluke just because They almost lost it When the tights the Titans were moving down the field after that two-point conversion, which was ballsy, which was like, oh my gosh, I love it but The Titans Joe down the field Randy Bullock the Titans kicker just blew it at the end We're gonna be talking about the Titans, but he blew it and that's what matters almost doesn't count in football Yes, but is it more of a mistake by Bullock or The Giants making just being amazing and taking the W Legit legit legit, we got Anthony saying legit on that and I'm saying they're fluke. So to recap the the teams that pulled off an upset when Vikings this is just for me Vikings legit see was legit bears fluke Texans fluke Dolphins Dolphins legit and Giants fluke Anthony has Vikings fluke Steelers fluke Bears fluke Texans fluke Such a positive guy Dolphins legit and the Giants legit going to teams that we expected to be good but lost and dramatic fashion or You know, we're good last year, but lost to an underdog this week So first let's start off with the Green Bay Packers. Do you think that they are fine or they are in trouble? No, they're fine. They're good Okay, they're good. Like I said, I think last video Aaron Rodgers got a chip on his shoulder Packers are fine Okay, he's good. He's good. They'll just make some adjustments as long as that rookie starts catching those balls wide open That was that was brutal. I was tragic, but I think they're good. Yeah, I'm gonna go and agree with you and say that they are fine I don't think that there's anything of Too much to be concerned about It's gonna be worse a little bit this season without Devonta Adams We all expected that but for Matt LaFleur to make the NSC championship three years in a row without getting Aaron Rodgers much help That says a lot. So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say, yeah, it's it's fine It's it's gonna be okay. And I think last year week one They lost big time against the New Orleans Saints James Winston threw five touchdowns and everybody was like, oh the Green Bay Pack Aaron Rodgers went on to win an MVP that year So I think they're completely fine Cincinnati Bengals losing to the Pittsburgh Steelers in overtime. Are they fine or in trouble? Come on, Joe Um, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say they're gonna be fine though. Okay. They're gonna be fine Yeah, I'm with you. That was bad Terrible, but it's fine. I it's okay when you talk about the teams that are gonna be competing competing in the AFC the Bengals always come up and Will they make the AFC championship with the bills around with the Chargers around with the Chiefs that looking good against Cardinals? I don't know but as far as AFC contenders. Yeah, they're up there. So I'm gonna say it. Yeah, it's okay But burl you need to call up Winston and ask him for his eye doctor's information And get that handled as long as you have insurance which for I'm sure you do. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure What about the 49ers? They lost 19 to 10 against the Chicago Bears in a very wet game Yeah That was bad. It was very bad, but I'm gonna say that they're fine Okay, I'm gonna say that they're fine. All right. I think I think Lance is gonna lead that team Really well your Lance believer. I'm a Lance believer and at what point I know that this was a report that Jake laser on Fox came out with saying that Kyle Shanahan the head coach called in 15 team leaders that were part of that 49ers team Before the season started and said hey if trail ants does bad There's gonna be a lot of people in the media asking you questions Like do you feel like Jimmy Grappler should go in like are you a believer in trail ants? I want you to always back up trip trail ants on everything and the team leaders were like, yep I got you so they have faith in Lance and when he performs poorly, they're gonna continue to keep Lance in there so Grappler, I think is being talked about Being traded to the cowboys now like just rumors Speculating just because of the injury to Dak Prescott. That was crazy. Yeah, but I fell asleep and then I woke up Yeah, he the king being over. Yeah injury. I was like what dag is gone again, man So Jimmy Jimmy the cowboy is I'll probably be smart 49ers for me. I'm gonna say they're in trouble I'm gonna say like against the Chicago Bears who we said worry fluke And if you lose to a fluke team I Mean I'm not saying that the 49ers can't be Playoff contenders. I think they can yeah, but if you lose this early on I know it's week one things are sloppy It was a wet game things are sloppy, but It was one of the worst teams in the NFL and the Bears There has to be some sort of reason for concern With a new quarterback you got to be like, okay, what are we doing wrong? We got to fix this before something, you know, it just ruins our season. So I'm saying I'm saying they're in trouble The Indianapolis Colts they tied it against the Texans Fine or in trouble Trouble, let's just move on Yeah, I mean Matty ice look good. You know, he was running the ball. He was running the ball a little bit out of the pocket Out of the pocket? I'm like, who is this? Who is this? I'll tell you who it is the guy that I said is a runner up for MVP last week You did say that Did You did Okay, so you say they're in trouble I'm gonna go with I wonder what they're fine Still very talented team. I still think that they're favorites to win the a of c south I know that the Tennessee Titans, which we're going to be talking about in just a bit our contenders as well, but um I'm gonna say they're fine No panic here, but for the New England Patriots, are they fine or in trouble trouble Patriots aren't what they used to be no It's uh, I agree with you. I mean Matt Patricia calling the offense it did not look good against the Dolphins Dolphins defense is pretty good but I mean, we expected a step up and the second year for mac jones Didn't show it. Yeah, two good running backs. Damon Harris from ronjer stevenson Didn't look like it was a run first team. So I'm gonna say They're in trouble as well And they got to fix some stuff before their season goes to waste And the last team we want to talk about the Tennessee Titans Losing to your new york giants. Are they fine or in trouble? um They're fine I would say they're fine even losing to my giants go g man Um, but yeah, I think the titans are fine. They always pull it was I think they're gonna be though I think the titans to me are houston to you like the ones that upset Or like oh, I shouldn't have lost To the titans, you know, but derrick henry is amazing I I like their offense a lot a lot and I like their coach too. Yeah, I think the tennessee titans are fine They were the number one seed in the a of c last year Somehow some way they always get it done Some people would think maybe you need to move on with ryan tanahill to each their own But I think tanahill gets it done enough to where Yeah, you know, he's a part of this, you know the system and the offense and you know, he's completely fine um, all right, so that is going to wrap up our show One more thing before we go I didn't take a moment at the beginning of the show to do this But I'm going to be doing injury roundups just real quick getting you guys updated on all the injury news That's happening. Uh covering all the bases all the bases right here on time to football Guys you can't get this information anywhere else not even google no come on Please subscribe That's how you do it right there. This is uh, yeah, you just beg um And so anyways injury roundup tj watt Very talented player for the stealers. He has a torn pectoral muscle He's gonna be out for quite a bit.  No, but it sounds like you have no, I haven't oh continue But yeah, I don't like I'd imagine it would get like purple and like yeah Can't really do anything Uh t higgins left the game with a concussion For this insanity bangles. He's probably going to be in concussion protocol We still don't know whether he's going to be playing next week or not Elijah Mitchell suffered a knee injury. We don't know the extent of that knee injury just yet Uh, but that is a big blow for the 49ers who probably are just going to go with Jeff Wilson Or jordan mason or whoever At running back now keenan allen looked great against the chart or against the raiders early on But then he pulled his hamstring. He was out. We don't know his status chris godwin came back unexpectedly after tearing an acl Had a hamstring injury was out for the remainder of the game. We don't know his status for next week But then dak press scott. We do know his status for the next six to eight weeks He's gonna be out cooper rush. We expect he's gonna be the quarterback for that time period He suffered a right thumb injury And he had to have surgery on it. So that is your injury round up, but Monday night football, who's your pick? Broncos seahawks who yeah broncos easy by how many points all of them That's it zero points for the seahawks and then we'll give them 69 points for the broncos. I'm gonna go. Yeah broncos by 20 I don't think the seahawks have any chance to stop them 20 Yeah, I think 20 is a good one 25 25. Why not? Just because broncos go to show off Hey behind the back passes But you know the falcons gave up a 25 point lead in the super bowl Um, and they gave up a 16 point lead just yesterday Dude, alana sports god. I love it. You know what? I uh, you know what I do love though the consistency I love consistency. You know what? Like oh, they're up by 16. You never feel okay You never feel safe or we got this in the bag as a falcons fan I agree with you and I wasn't disappointed at all because I knew what to expect That concludes our episode of time to football. We thank you guys for tuning in To this week's week one recap anthony. Thank you again for joining us. Thank you brother Appreciate you always a pleasure to have you So make sure you guys subscribe again If you guys are fantasy football fans and have been missing those starts and sets on this channel Click that link in the description T2f fantasy football that is a channel you need to go to For your fantasy football advice, this will cover week one or weekly recaps and weekly previews So make sure you stay tuned for the show coming up this thursday when we have Jansen Harris on giving us a preview of week two With all that said thank you guys so much for watching this episode and I'll see you thursday


We will now begin to look at how nuclear safety is ensured at the design stage. So we will see the different aspects from beginning with the risk, the concept of safety function, a very important principle which is defense in depth, and then the two different approach of the safety analysis, which is a deterministic approach, and the probabilistic approach, including the treatment of hazards. But first let's look at the main risk from nuclear power plants. Of course the first risk is linked with the efficient reaction, but it's important to say right here that nuclear plants cannot be transformed in a atomic bomb because of the physical arrangement of the elements of the core that render that impossible. Then there is the risk from radiation, and we will have a look on the risky normal operation, and of course the risk of accident, which is the major one. So what are the risks from the efficient reaction? Of course the immediate risk is that this reaction goes out of control, so there is the need to control the efficient reaction. That's the immediate risk, but there is also a different risk because even when the efficient reaction has stopped, there is a lot of efficient products, which are radioactive, even if they are decaying in terms of radioactivity, that it remains what we call the residual power, and so there is a team, the need for long-term cooling after the shutdown of the reactor. And another element very important to control is confinement in order to avoid the radioactive products to escape and get to the environment. So now the risk from radiation. Radiation has some biological impact on the cells, either destroying them or modifying their structure. So there are two kinds of consequence of that, an immediate consequence, the destruction of the tissue, that it's exactly like when you got a burn, but there is also a different effect, and the modification of cell could lead to some cancer or some hereditary anomalies. There are two ways of impacting living material from radiation. We call the first one irradiation. It's a situation where the radiation comes from the outside and this could occur without any contact with radioactive products. The way to be protected against irradiation is by putting some screens or increasing the distance between the source and the living material. Another way of being impacted by the radiation is through what we call contamination. This happens when you ingest some contaminating products or inhale, pressuring, or if you are touching some deposit of radioactive products. So if the contamination is outside, this could be eliminated by washing and this is a reason why each time you exit the nuclear plant you have to wash your hands and if you are contaminated you have to go through a shower. And if you happen to inhale or to ingest some contaminated products, the elimination is done through the decay of the radioactivity or through biological processes. So the unit used for measuring the impact of radiation is the gray and the gray is equivalent to one joule per kilo. But the harmful impact on living materials depends on the type of radiation and the type of organ or cell involved and it's not the same for a neutron or a bata-gray. And so we use this concept of effective dose unit and it's the most used and if you hear the media you're talking about sievert or millisievert. So one sievert is equal to one gray for beta and gamma radiation but the impact could be much more important for the neutron radiation and in this case one sievert is equal to 10 or 20 gray. There are strict limits from radiation through regulation and so the standards. For the general public the annual dose is one millisievert per year but for nuclear workers who have specific annual medical follow-up the maximum allowed dose is 20 millisievert per year. We have to compare that to a natural average average radiation which for instance in France is 2.2 millisievert a year and but in some other parts of the world and for instance in some part of India the natural average radiation could reach 10 millisieverts a year and the impacts on radiation depends also on the quantity of the dose and the figure of five sievert is something important because this is the beginning of the point when you have some deterministic impacts that means that it's certain and there is a proof that this kind of dose has a specific impact. Below this value of five sieverts we talk about stochastic effects that means that for this low dose you have a certain probability of having an impact but it's not something certain. Let's have a look now on the the risk in normal operation. First to say that for the public in normal operation the the risk is completely insignificant because of strict authorized limits of both radioactive gaseous and and liquid releases and there is this principle of halera which means as low as reasonably achievable and this is a principle which is applied on all nuclear facilities where if there is something that could reduce the the release either in either form the measure that should be taken to make to implement these elements and reduce again the the dose incurred by the public. For the the workers and specifically for the maintenance staff there is some risk of irradiation and contamination because of course they were closer to the source of radiation so the measure which are taken to reduce the risk is wearing of specific crossing equipment in including some scaphandria. We use also screen lead screen around the piping when there is some contamination inside the the pipe and the the dose incur is also permanently measured through dosimeters. It is also important to limit the time of exposure and for instance before making some control in the steam generator tubes the operates the maintenance staff the persons who make this inspection are trained to jump in the box of the steam generator in order to limit the time it takes to make the job. So the main risk is the risk of accidents and accidents have happened and they could happen and the prevention and mitigation of these accidents is the very purpose of of nuclear safety because the consequence of an accident is to release potentially release contaminated water gas and if there is some fuel degradation there will be also the release of fission products. So we just mentioned here the three major nuclear accidents that have occurred in the world. The first one is the accident at Srimail Island in the US in 1979. There was no significant release and no health impact of this accident because there was a nice reactor around this facility and but this accident has had a large impact and on the way we see nuclear safety and we will come back a little bit on then on on the one of the next parts. Another big accident was Chernobyl in the USSR in 1986. These occur on a very specific design the RBMK. There have been a major release very significant health impact with a lot of people that died from from this accident and again we will come back on that later and the most recent one that I think most of you remind is the Fukushima accident in 2011 in Japan that was a boiling water reactor. There have been some important releases but thanks to a rapid devocation of the population around the plant the health impact of this accident has been very limited and so again we will see some more details in the section on operation.


Cool. So we got a question. And the question is, hey, Lloyd, I see you in your approaching system, which is going to be coming out September 10th, that you are talking to a lot of women on the sidewalk, beach, and in shops. Unfortunately, my area has a lot of things closed thanks to the lockdown and COVID. Can you do a video where you talk about how to approach women in these environments where everything's, a lot of stuff is closed and shut down? Thank you so much. Okay, cool.  Is it possible to start a conversation and have that potentially lead somewhere?  Yes. Okay. I mean, in the approaching system, I show you a video of me just walking on the beach for a couple hours and literally I had seven girls back at my hotel room later that night. Okay. In fact, that actually made it easier in a certain way because all the bars and everything were closed. Like that was during, that was, that was exactly when the second lockdown hit LA when they shut everything down for a second time. That's when I filmed all the infield for the approaching system. So yeah, it's absolutely possible. You can do it. So there's tons of women out there that although maybe, you know, indoors or grocery stores might be wearing a mask, they're going to be open to meeting a guy. They're going to be open to talking to people. However, you don't know that 100% for sure. So what you should do is obviously start out from a place to make them feel safe, you know, six feet away. In fact, I would recommend you stand six feet away when you first start talking to a girl you don't know anyway. The only difference is that, you know, sometimes you're wearing a mask. So sometimes I'll just take it down and I'll start talking to her and if she kind of backs away like she didn't like that, then okay, I'll put my mask back up. No worries. No big deal. Okay. Out of approaching, you know, 40 women on the beach and the sidewalk and all that stuff, I only had one woman tell me, hey, well, back away, stay six feet away. One out of 40. Okay. So that should show you that it is definitely, definitely possible to walk up and talk to women. And you do a lot of the same things that you would normally do, like I said. But again, at first stand six feet away, be respectful. And then if she is okay with, you know, you come in close shaking hands and doing a high five or a hug or something like that, then do it. But always ask. Okay. Remember, you're getting consent for, you're getting consent to hug people now, which is totally fine. Okay. So do that, respect people's boundaries. Now, if you were on a date or if you were on something like that, I would say just kind of do the same thing. However, there's going to be some women that you notice that are on the date that are, you know, a little bit more worried than others. Okay. So in these circumstances, if you're hanging out with a girl you don't really know, maybe you matched on Tinder, you meet up. Okay. You want to stay very respectful at the beginning to ask them what they're, what they're comfortable with is like, I would usually do a high five is like, you cool the high five or you cool the hug or an elbow bump or whatever it is. Okay. And if they're cool with it, then it's, then it's fine. You know, usually, I'd say most of the dates I've been on have been okay. Okay. However, sometimes you'll meet a girl where it's like she really is, she's really scared of all the stuff. So if you get someone like that, then you have to kind of, you basically want to like, be not more worried about, but just as worried and very protective. So like, I was out with a girl a while ago. She's super scared about the COVIDs. And so I basically was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We can't go in there. It's not safe. Or I was like, I was very like protective and making sure that she was, and she actually thought it was kind of funny. Okay. So the first time we hung out, that's what I did. And you know, the subsequent times after that, she was more comfortable with me because she kind of knew me. And sometimes it just takes a little bit of trust and that works. Now, obviously, if you meet somebody who says she's not going to be comfortable touching, you were doing anything until somehow COVID disappears, you know, then probably you should find another girl who is going to be willing to do that for you. Because I don't know about you, but it's very hard for me to date somebody standing six feet apart the entire time and having to wear masks. This is not my speed. So there's plenty of women out there that are going to be able to do that. But if you meet somebody like that, that's what I would recommend doing, you know, respecting their boundaries, being more about it. But yeah, you guys, I mean, this is definitely possible. I mean, just last week, I met a girl at a restaurant, she was right in front of me and we ended up hooking up that night. So like, you know, you can meet people out. It's very possible. Just respect people's boundaries. And you should do that anyway, whether or not there's, whether or not there's something involved, like a pandemic or whatever. Okay. That's my advice for you guys. Again, take this seriously, be safe, you know, do use your, be cautious and do what you feel like you need to do to keep yourself and your family safe. Thanks a lot, you guys. And again, if you are wondering about the approaching system, I'm going to be coming out with that September 10th. There's going to be a link in the description box below if you want to get notified about it. But check back. This is the most comprehensive product. This is the least. I put this at the most affordable price that I've ever put anything at in terms of services.  There's going to be a module on conversations, which is one of the things that I'm the best at. You know, I do demos with models and the thing in field footage and all that stuff. So, oh, that's going to be there. So thanks for watching you guys. If you made it, you can consider subscribing. Good luck out there.


I'm part of First Class Norse with a 1-2 SCR Bull Troop and today we are peppering our vehicles for immediate response 2012 with the Croatians and other Eastern European forces. We're going to be doing joint training with them and their training area here in Croatia. Today we pretty much put the miles gear and dice gear on there which is kind of like a big laser tag we get to play. They have it also so back and forth we know when our vehicles are killed if we shoot them or if they shoot us. Doing different types of exercises with their vehicles and our strikers. Their vehicles are almost just like ours so both the crews have kind of talked to each other to see the difference between both of them. Can't think of anything else.


Hey there, Psych2Goers, and welcome back. According to a report published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 7% of children aged 3 to 17 have been diagnosed with anxiety disorders. The types of anxiety which are commonly experienced by children include specific phobias or are more broad-based, such as separation anxiety, social anxiety, and generalized anxiety disorder. Want to know the signs that someone may have grown up with anxiety? Let's delve into them together. Number 1. You live in a chaotic environment. What exactly does a dysfunctional family environment entail? Does this increase susceptibility to anxiety? Children crave a sense of belonging. A dysfunctional family impedes that need with a perpetual absence of support, blocking a child's integration with family. You're faced with multiple forms of aggression or neglect, such as being belittled, dominated, lied to, and controlled by your caregivers. There's limited affection in the way of physical and verbal affirmations of love, empathy, and time spent together. Neglect and discord around other family members always keeps you on edge. The emotionally unstable and untrustworthy environment causes children to develop certain defense strategies to maintain their safety and keep themselves intact. However, prolonged use of this defense strategy in the face of overwhelming stressors for far too long may pave the way to develop severe forms of anxiety. Number 2. Constant worry and negative thoughts have been the norm. Would you call yourself a chronic warrior? Do you always report being tense and finding it hard to relax and switch off? It's actually normal to worry from time to time. Perhaps you're worried about things like your health, finance, or some family issues, when anxiety is the monster under your bed for a long, long time, and you find it difficult to fall asleep and stay asleep throughout the night due to your noisy brain. That's when your worry becomes excessive and uncontrollable, even when there's little or no reason for it to. This may indicate an increased chance that you may have anxiety, or more specifically generalized anxiety disorder. Number 3. You always find it hard to concentrate. Because your mind always tend to wander to the future, and you have to always ask your friends to repeat what they're saying. This might be due to your having developed episodic foresight. This is defined as the mental construction of potential events and the ability to flexibly organize action in light of such anticipations. When you've been faced with anxiety for a long time, you tend to think fast forward. You're constantly on the lookout, trying to foresee events, and so have fallen into the habit of preventing the next possible mishap. You tend to ruminate on minuscule details until they become the elephant in the room, making careful preparation for threats, opportunities, and circumstances to control important aspects of the future. Number 4. You have issues of separation. Throwback to the first day of school.  Or maybe you too? It's actually a normal stage in development and helps children understand relationships and master their environments. But separation anxiety is a whole other phenomenon. This term refers to excessive fear or worry about separation from home or an attachment figure. When a child turns two years old, separation anxiety will normally end. As they start to realize that the attachment figure may be out of sight now, but will return later. This situation dissipates with the developmental growth of the child. But when this level of anxiety surpasses the developmental years, it's most probably separation anxiety disorder. Being reluctant to sleep without being near a major attachment figure, refusing to attend camp or have a sleepover at a friend's home, or even needing someone to be with them when they go to another room in their house, are some ways this can manifest as opposed to other peers of the same age. Number 5. You experience bodily symptoms. Just before entering this stage, do you complain of tummy aches, nausea, and your muscles becoming tense? Or maybe you sweat profusely before a presentation. All this is regarded as normal in novel circumstance. But when such physical reactions constitute a major part of all your daily activities, it could be a nod towards a highly anxious self. Those growing up with anxiety can have trouble toggling their flight or flight state. Your body is ready to cry wolf at the slightest sign of distress. Their heightened vigilance is quick to translate into physical symptoms such as stomach pain, nausea, or digestive trouble. Insomnia, weakness, or fatigue, and shortness of breath are common experiences as well. And number 6. You are always tired. Did you just ache up from a good 8 hour sleep but still feel very exhausted? What? Yeah. Are you tired all the time, lacking the energy and motivation to do anything? I feel you. It's actually a very human thing to be tired and experience some form of fatigue, especially after doing certain strenuous activities.  You are highly alert all the time and your body is flooded with energy, causing a strain on your adrenaline supply. This condition is known as adrenal fatigue, causing it to feel drained. So do any of these describe your experience? Please feel free to share any thoughts you have as well. If you found this video helpful, be sure to hit the like button and share it with those out there with similar experiences. Don't forget to subscribe to Psych2Go and hit the notification bell for more new videos. And as always, thanks for watching.


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Veseli smo izvršiti faktor, ki se predivimo, kako se prišlo, je bolj nekaj, da je zelo, kako je zelo, kako je zelo, tako, faktor, ki nosi, metabolizovani, unik. Tako, imam zelo, Všeč, da se je uniki? Všeč, da se je uniki? Ja, imam... Ja, imam všeč? Zdaj, da se pridem v DNA, geni. Daj je deste všeč vse, da se predetem. Ne bo in dog geni, vočey da je, da je, da je. Tukaj moj아 je v konjemovom sprinu, tako, pa je naji, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je. Ja. To je, da je. Však so, da izvoji ni. Kaj bo tudi? A če ga pogomimo, da se moram, da te, ko je pošli, trajno ga se več. Pozirno, da biti naplito, So go ahead and don't worry too much. So now be ready for a shocking surprise. DNA wise, you are 99.9% similar to the person sitting next to you. So technically speaking, DNA can explain only 01% or what makes us unique. And this was one of the shocking surprises from the human genome project, which was completed in 2000. There are other two shocking surprises. The second one being that genes account for only 2% of your DNA. The remaining DNA was once called junk DNA because it doesn't contain genes. And there was the assumption that no gene means no function. And the third shocking surprise is that we humans have the same number of genes as mice, worms and fruit flies and 50 times fewer than an onion. So how we get along as a species with fewer genes than an onion? There must be something else that explains what makes us human and unique. And as many of you guessed here, these factors are our metabolites, the proteins in our body, microbes and lifestyle factors. Things like diet, exercise, lips, relationships, emotions that affect the way we use our genes. A process called epigenetics. And these are the factors that contribute to our metabolic fingerprint. And the factors that we are investigating in our study. In the next 20 minutes, I will give you an overview of the genetic and epigenetic component of this study, on which I am directly working. So a previous study from my group, the same one I mentioned you before, the A to Z study, identified, so found out that three gene variants, ADRB2, FABP2 and PIPAR gamma, might predict the predisposition of a person to lose more weight on a low carbohydrate versus a low fat diet. So might be good markers of carbohydrate tolerance. Now these three gene variants are technically single nucleotide polymorphisms, or SNPs for short. SNPs are what make us unique DNA-wise. Do you remember our first shocking surprise? So SNPs explain that 0.1% that makes you different from the person sitting next to you. And this is because, on average, different people have one nucleotide difference, every 1000 nucleotide in the DNA. So this is 0.1%. And now to understand how SNPs work biologically, they have a very quick genetics refresher. So the letters in your DNA sequence provide information to produce amino acids that in turn forms the protein that build up your cells. Now by changing one nucleotide in the DNA sequence, SNPs might change one amino acid of the protein produced by a gene. And these, together with lifestyle and epigenetics, can affect the way you look, your skin color, your height, your predisposition to diseases, and the way you metabolize food and drugs. Now, coming back to our study, we had identified these three SNPs that were very good candidate as biomarker to predict carbohydrate tolerance.  So we went and tested whether we could replicate the association between and carbohydrate tolerance in this new study. And actually we couldn't. So this reflects a general problem with genetic testing. Common SNPs have small effects on function. They can usually explain 1% of the variability between people. So knowing that you are carrying one SNP or a couple of SNPs usually doesn't provide any meaningful information about your visible traits or your health. And so, for example, according to 23andMe, I am 72% likely to have straight hair and the reason for that is that genes don't work in isolation, but in large networks. So a researcher at Stanford, Jonathan Prechard, published a paper a couple of weeks ago where he says that most traits are omnigenic, which means that they are influenced by thousands of SNPs spending the entire genome. So even traits which have a high genetic component like hair carliners or height are influenced by thousands genes. So height actually is affected by 300,000 SNPs and most of these shifted by just a seventh of a millimeter. There's no way you can predict your height just by looking at 10 SNPs. So, and this is the first problem with genetic testing. The second problem is that they don't account for environmental factors, which is epigenetics. So in the second part of my talk, I will introduce you to the field of epigenetics, explain how diet can affect epigenetics and give you an introduction about the work we are doing in our study. So epigenetics is one of the most exciting field of science today. In 2010, the Time magazine dedicated an entire issue to it. The cover story why your DNA isn't your destiny. The new science of epigenetics reveals how the choices you make can change your genes and those of your kids. And since then, epigenetics is showing up in more and more places in our kitchen, in our supplements, in our face creams. But what are the facts and fantasies about epigenetics? So let's try to disentangle these things together and start from the basics. So epigenetics from the Greek epi, which means on the top, means on the top of genetics.  Just like a dimmer switch can modulate lights up and down in a room. This process of turning genes on and off, up and down is called gene expression. And it can explain why there are different types of cells in our body. Fat cells, neuron cells, liver cells, all told 300 different types of cells that all have the same DNA. How is this possible? Think of the genome as a hardware. The epigenome is a software that tells each of your cells what to do, which genes to turn on and off. So, therefore, each single cell body has a different epigenome. And now scientists have sequenced 111 out of the possible 300 and more epigenomes in our body. And this was the result of another landmark project called the Roadmap Epigenomics Project, which is still ongoing. And another finding from this project is that most epigenetic marks lay outside genes. What was once called junk DNA. So they are hidden gold in the junk. And they can partly explain the paradox that we introduced before that we have 50 times fewer genes than an onion. We can make more out of our genome because we have a more complex epigenome. So epigenetics is not only what makes us human, but also can explain in part what makes us unique. And this is how. Lifestyle factors can send signals to enzyme inside our cells that write or erase epigenetic markers. And these in turn affect, can affect gene expression. Now you can think therefore of epigenetic markers as memo nodes placed on your genes. These memo nodes store information about your lifestyle, your environment. And this process is called epigenetic memory. Epigenetic memory can explain why, for example, identical twins with exactly the same DNA can start differing with time, not only the way they look, but also in their predisposition to diseases. And epigenetic memory is also key to understanding how our lifestyle can change our gene expression, thus affecting our health and disease. And this is because the notes, the memo notes that are taken before our birth tend to be written with a pen, to be permanent. That's why so important the nutrition of the mother and the prenatal environment. And the notes that are taken after our birth tend to be written with the pencil, to be potentially reversible. And this is where your lifestyle, your choices become very important because this pencil is in your hands. And diet is one of the most potent signals to our genes. There are many studies in animal models and human showings, but maybe the most famous example comes from a historic tragedy, the Dutch Hunger Winter in 1944. So in 1944, during World War II, the Germans imposed a food embargo in Holland, in Holland. And as a consequence, 20,000 people died. And the babies born during the famine were born under weight, of course, and had very severe health issues. And this is not a surprise. What is a surprise is that when these babies grew up, they were highly prone to obesity and to psychiatric conditions like schizophrenia. And even more surprising, when the famine babies had children of their own, these were also born under weight and with high presence position to become obese. Even if they were never exposed directly to the famine. So some scientists wonder whether the famine could have left some pen marks on the epigenome of the famine babies. And what they found out is that even six decades later after the famine, the famine babies had different epigenetic modifications compared with their same sex siblings who weren't exposed to the famine. And one of these modifications, Marx, was in a gene that promotes growth in the womb, IGF2. So this study clearly shows that you are what you eat and maybe also what your mother and grandmother hate. But also fathers should pay attention to what they eat because this might also affect the epigenome of their children. A study from 2015 shows that obese men have different epigenetic marks compared with lean men and these marks are in their sperm cells. So they could potentially pass to next generation and they are found in genes that regulate brain function and the appetite. So these two examples really show us that food is not only calories, but also information. It's information that can change the expression of our genes. And in our study, I'm trying to understand whether these changes of gene in gene ethics can help us understand whether, so predict whether a person is going to respond better to a low carb or low fat diet. And so if whether we can use these epigenetic marks as biomarkers for carbohydrate tolerance. So our approach is to compare the high responders and the low responders to high carbohydrate diet and then the epigenetic markers that will be specific of the high responders will be marker of high carbohydrate tolerance whereas those that are specific low responders will be a marker of low carbohydrate tolerance. Now, I have to stress an important difference between genetic and epigenetic markers in your journey to optimal health.  But because epigenetic markers respond dynamically to the environmental and lifestyle, epigenetic biomarkers can tell you where you are now in your journey to optimal health. And this is also what our data suggests. We are in the process of analyzing the data. I cannot share any specific details, but I can tell you that what we see is that your carbohydrate tolerance may depend on your carb history. So how many carbs are you eating now and you have been eating before? And this history is stored as an information in your epigenetic marks and these marks may be potentially reversible. So when you lose weight and when you do change your carb intake, these markers change and your carbohydrate tolerance can change as well. And there are studies already published that point to these hypothesis. For example, this is a study from last year showing that carbohydrate intake affects epigenetic marks that influence then carbohydrate tolerance. In this case was an epigenetic mark in a clock gene, the BMAL1. But this is just to say that science is showing that our carbohydrate tolerance is not something that is set in stone but is more dynamic than we used to think. And there are many studies supporting these hypothesis. I reviewed them in a recent open access review that I published just a couple of months ago in the journal Epigenomics. So you are encouraged to check it out. And so to end up this talk, I would like to leave you with two important messages. The first one is use your genes. Don't let them use you. And the second one is that we are truly unique in two ways, because of our genes, the book we are born with and because our epigenom, the book you are the author of. So I would like to thank you very much for your attention. I was on time. Great, great, so please. Yeah, thank you, great talk. Aren't there theoretical reasons to be a little bit skeptical of epigenetic programming generationally? We don't really know what the weather is going to be like next year. So let's list what the nutrient availability is going to be like in the lifetime of a long-leaving organism. Perhaps a shorter lifespan organism in insect or a rodent, the predictive adaptive response wouldn't make sense, because you are predicting less into the future. In general, generationally? So you are asking me what is the evidence of transgenerational epigenetic inheritance. Yeah, especially in long-leaving organisms. Yes, yes. Okay, so what, for example, the study I showed you doesn't necessarily mean that this was a transgenerational epigenetic inheritance. And the reason for that is that we have to distinguish between inutero effects and epigenetic transgenerational inheritance. The transgenerational inheritance is something that happens through the sperm or egg cells. Okay? The inutero effects can be direct effects due to exposure of the baby. So the baby, because the problem is that, especially for women, this is a problem, the egg that produced me is made by my grandmother. Okay? So if my grandmother was exposed to the feminine, I might have been directly affected by the feminine, not through the germline, so not through transgenerational epigenetic inheritance, but through inutero effects. So the experiment that I showed you doesn't demonstrate transgenerational inheritance because we should go to the fourth generation and test this. Right? So we don't have approved for that for human studies. And this is because we just need to go further and demonstrate that these modifications are truly permanent after the fourth generation. But there are studies, after the fourth generation and demonstrating that there is an effect, actually a professor working here, Michael Skinner, did an important experiment in mice showing this. And for humans, no, there is not a definitive answer. So we don't know if these are inutero effects. Epigenetics is surely involved. We just don't know if it's transgenerational inheritance this is a... On the low-carb cruise when I heard your talk. Yes, one thing I liked, I don't know if this falls under what you can't talk about now due to the analysis, but you discussed how having a low carbohydrate tolerance may be a benefit. Is that off-limits right now? Yeah, I was discussing an example. Yeah, so actually one of the SNPs that I showed you that that SNP actually was in ADRB2, I think was one of the SNPs that I showed you, the ADRB2 that basically makes the gene works better.  Plug respond to adrenaline but also to insulin. So and this SNP actually makes the plug work better. So it responds better to insulin and it was useful for us because we were going through period of starvation and feeding and so this was only to point out that SNPs, we think of SNPs as something that is pathological but actually they just reflect long-term adaptation of the DNA sequence to allow us to thrive better in response to environmental changes. So they're actually part of a natural mechanism that to prevent disease and not to cause disease. So I think this was, yes, the point I was trying to make and I think this is very important because we see this over and over, especially now with the raise of personal genomics. You hear about MTHFR, EPOE4 and blah, blah, blah. All these are gene variants and most of these variants are actually associated with protective effects in other. So sometimes they make you, they predispose you for one condition but they protect you for one other. And they are not rare. They affect 25% of the population, 50% sometimes. So they are not disease-causing genes. So, yeah. Thank you for making this question. Just something interesting what you mentioned about the, from the Dutch hunger winter and the thrifty phenotype hypothesis of Barker, which obviously you know about. Is that there is reasonable evidence to suggest calorie deprivation in utero triggers the baby's epigenome to anticipate a lifetime of starvation. And then when they get access to lots of calories like they did after World War II their metabolism was trained to store it and keep it and they developed all those problems in midlife. Well, oxygen is we call it a respiratory nutrient or respiratory substrate. Oxygen deparation in utero as is what's seen when women who are pregnant and they snore and have apnea. We're speculating that it's a similar sort of phenomenon that the metabolism is adjusted because the fetus thinks it's going to be born on top of Mount Everest and they're born shorter like mountainous, indigenous people are because of the largest reservoir of mitochondria is in the musculoskeletal system so it behooves them to be short. So I just wanted to bring that up that it might I know Gary Tubbs likes to attack new things so maybe. Thank you very much for bringing this up. I think that this is the beauty of the field is ever growing. I was not actually aware of this scientist that are studying how many, many conditions can affect epigenetics so this is actually exciting, I didn't know. So thank you very much for bringing this up. Are you working in the field? Thank you. Question? Hi. Hi everyone. Three years ago I went to the University of Camerino and took so they were talking about nutrigenomics and nutrigenetics. I wonder if that summer school is still going on and whether you are going to be a part of it or anyone from your team in the next summer school. Thanks a lot for telling me about it because as you may know I may imagine so I'm on one side I'm a typical scientist I work in the lab in my science so I'm not aware of these things but I just created an online course for the Stanford Continuing Studies Program in nutrigenomics so I would be very interested to be there and nutrigenomics and nutrigenetics is so what is speaking about is this even and take these conversations between our genes and environment nutrigenetics is how our genes our snips can affect the way we process food and nutrigenomics is the opposite process how the food we eat can modify the activity of our genes through epigenetics and this is a fascinating field I think although science is still growing we don't we don't know a lot yet but every time I give this course I I'm very happy to see that people are empowered because they to take action on their life on their life because they see that science is just explaining what we have known for years that you should like exercise and a good diet help but now that they see that this is evidence based they are really encouraged to take action and I think this is also one positive aspects of personal genomics so I told you that is not so useful yet but on the other side some people need to know that they have the MTHFR gene to go and eat their spinach it's sometimes it can be useful because and studies show that providing genetic information actually can enhance so diet adherence and people hit better so there is there is a good use for that so maybe you can tell me more about this program I would love to thank you I thought I heard you say that there are epigenetic markers that you are born with that you really can't do anything about is that true? so there's nothing so if your mother was a chronic dieter or you were born to a family who was multiple generations of junk food eaters there's nothing you can do about that except try to do better for the future generation ok, so first of all I tried as you to make also things simple in my presentation and sometimes this doesn't reflect the complexity of things so it is true that all these statements are based mostly on studies from animals and we do see that in general there are some epigenetic changes that occur before birth and they are not reversible we don't know what makes with an impen versus impencil of course one factor for that is that before birth we are more sensitive to environmental signals because after when the sperm and the egg fuse together actually all the epigenetic marks are erased not all but most of them are erased so you are almost epigenetically naked the embryo the stem cells in the embryo are epigenetically naked that is what stem cells are they are epigenetically naked cells that can become everything because they don't have the epigenetic marks they don't have the program to say ok, you express these genes and you don't express these genes they can express potentially everything because they are epigenetically naked they are stem cells but then once they start differentiating and form the tissues of your body they acquire epigenetic changes so I'm telling you this to say ok, these cells that are still epigenetically naked and they are they are forming their epigenome of course they are more sensitive but there are also some other factors that can explain why some markers are impen or impencil there are some local specific factors so some sequencing in our DNA because of their sequence or because of some DNA elements present in them are more fragile are more prone to epigenetic changes that are permanent so anyway there are studies in animals showing that these epigenetic changes are not reversible I don't know there is nothing like that that was shown in men in human so I don't know if we are more protected towards these or just there is no science showing this so I cannot tell you but I think likely there are some epigenetic changes and very likely they are anyway compatible to life but most of them their epigenetic changes are actually very very quick so quick that is very difficult to study epigenetic you have to control I may have different epigenetic changes and then if you measure my epigenetic changes after the talk so is this because I had a huge breakfast or because I wasn't at the talk we don't know right so epigenetic is very dynamic influence by lifestyle factor just take the pencil part of my talk and try to use that


Live from Las Vegas, it's theCUBE. Covering NetApp Insight 2018. Brought to you by NetApp. Welcome back to theCUBE, I'm Lisa Martin with Stu Miniman Live in Las Vegas at Mandalay Bay at NetApp Insight 2018, the third annual with customers, partners, and less-pressed NetAppians. We're excited to welcome two alumni back to theCUBE. We have Nancy Hart, head of marketing for Cloud Infrastructure at NetApp and Dale Deegan, Cloud Infrastructure Business Director. Guys, welcome back to theCUBE. Thank you so much, it's so great to see you guys again. Likewise, so we got back from a standing room only keynote, thousands of people here, and one of the interesting things, Nancy, that Stu and I both observed were today, no product announcements, it was really about concepts, you know, the first time we heard anything, architecture-related was really the data fabric, but George Curian, CEO of NetApp, talked about the four principles of digital transformation. I think we can unpack those with you guys. The first one talking about digital transformation requires IT transformation. Talk to us about that, speed is the new scale. What does that mean for NetApp as a company that needs to transform into your customers? So it makes for our customers this idea that speed is the new scale, right? That to create new businesses, to create new opportunities, to create new revenues, they have to be a lot more agile and agile in their ITs, right? So, at NetApp, what we're really focused on doing is how to break down the barriers between dev and ops, right? The days of silos, months of provisioning, all of that is now gone, because companies now need to help their teams build faster, build better, and that's really what George was talking about in this idea of speed is the new scale. And if our customers are not driving IT, agile IT operations in their own data centers, their competitors, certainly are. How does that, NetApp talks a lot about being data-driven, the data authority in hybrid cloud. George also said hybrid clouds do in multi-cloud or the de facto architecture. When you talk with customers, how do they digest? NetApp's going to help me be data-driven. Right. What's that conversation like? So it looks like a lot these days is we have, and our customers, they have their own users, their own internal dev ops teams who've gotten very used to taking their corporate Amix and running up to Amazon and setting up a new compute shape or new storage, right? The thing is that we see customers are trying to rebalance where they put their data, where they put their applications. Do some things belong in public cloud? Absolutely. But there's also this natural rebalance. Not every application should be in the cloud for reasons of data governance, perhaps cost, whatever it is, when they build that next new application, it may be in the data center. So to make that work is this idea of a hybrid, multi-cloud experience. And the key part of that is the experience. It's not a management experience, it's a consumption experience. It's a very seamless, simple consumption experience that you've got up in the public cloud, but in a private cloud in your data center. Nancy, I like that. We've been saying on theCUBE for a couple of years now, cloud is not a destination, it's an operating model. Yes. It's a way we need to think things. But Dale, when I talk to customers, when you talk about their cloud strategy, when you talk about what they roll out, every single one of them, totally different. How much they're doing SaaS versus how many different public clouds they're doing. And of course, they're still figuring out what they've got in their traditional data center. As you said, certain companies have been selling them multiple products. They've got their data all spread out. So are we getting away from silos? How architecturally do we build this? There's so much differentiation out in the marketplace today. It'd be lovely to have a magic wand and say, oh, yeah, everything's simple, but it really hasn't been the case in Enterprise IT. I think you nailed it the way you described it right there. You have enterprises that have built up a collection of applications. Some of them have been given a cloud mandate, and so that means something different to everyone. Sometimes they're going out all SaaS. Sometimes they're saying, I want to put everything, all my storage in the cloud. We're seeing an interesting moment in time where there's almost a reaction to that and finding out maybe there's silos within different public cloud service providers. Maybe the monthly cost is a little bit larger than what people might have expected on that. At NetApp, we've been working with our customers, and I kind of love being here, because in the last couple of years it's just been this huge transformation of the company around that. Taking a lot of our customers that viewed us as number one in storage, they're a trusted provider on that, and really expanding out to a more data-driven solution on there. Things we've done internally to address that is really focused on different business imperatives, because I think each of our customers has their data center that they need their rock solid applications on. They're thinking about this journey to the cloud. They're trying to innovate with acceleration in the cloud with different services, with the biggest public clouds, and along the way, they're also saying, I need some of that agility internally, and so we've really built that to build out your hybrid multi-cloud experience, and the company strategy is coming together. We're seeing investments, we're seeing growth, and announcements, and all of those. So, one of the interesting things that I observed in the keynote this morning was NetApp being 26 years young company, right? Massive install base. You've got a lot of customers who were not born in the digital age, and George Kearing, your CEO, seems to kind of address them almost right out of the gates. So, let's talk about the data fabric a little bit more. Let's unpack that, because some of the messaging seems to be reflecting that, and I think Anthony Lai talked about this a little bit this morning in the keynote as well. It's transforming from a vision to an architecture. For your customers, your incumbent enterprise customers who were not born in the cloud, what does being data-driven mean to them? How are they embracing this architecture idea of the data fabric and using it to use their data to identify new customer touchpoints, deliver new services, increase revenue? So, we're seeing a lot of our customers really transform their business to take advantage of these new services in the cloud. The value that a lot of them are bringing to us is they have a massive amount of institutional data that maybe was in different silos. Maybe, and they had different as-a-service offerings touching it. We're able to bring it together with the data fabric so now they can consolidate this into a large amount of tangible data. You can have multiple as-a-service solutions and services coming from public cloud service providers to do analytics on data. For example, we have energy companies that have seismic data from 50 years ago that is sitting on tapes. It's better than anything they could even get today. They bring it all together and now they're doing data analytics on this and they're finding new ways to really take advantage of that. So, we're seeing that across the board and our goal is to try to move them along that journey. Nancy, could you give us a little insight as to who you're selling to, where is NetApp getting involved in those strategic discussions? As I said, everybody's got a cloud strategy but I said usually the ink's still drying and it's something you need to revisit often. Where is NetApp seed at that table? You've got a lot of partners here. And how are things changing? A lot of things are changing in a lot of ways for NetApp. In the companies that we're selling to and the who we're selling to at those companies, we certainly see a lot of new buyers. And it's interesting to see now that the decision-making, who's sitting at the decision table when they make that decision of what kind of infrastructure to purchase? It's getting at a larger and larger group. And now we're really seeing the dev teams, their internal dev ops teams have a seed at that table who are having significant influence on the infrastructure and operations teams on what kind of investments that company should be making, right? So, working with partners, going to market through the largest public hyperscalers and reaching these new buyers in new and existing accounts as well. So even if there is a traditional part of the data center, I guarantee you somewhere in every company there's a new dev team working on new business models. And so we want to attack. Does the conversation, Nancy, start at the business outcomes level? Absolutely. And Dale, from your perspective, how are you seeing some of the more technical folks in an organization participating in a business outcomes driven conversation where it's more about, these are the things we need to do to compete to increase our revenue. How is that persona-based conversation changing? So actually I have a story from a customer meeting earlier this week, right? So we were talking with the customer about the data fabric and what we can do and how we can deliver a seamless experience between public and private clouds. And we walked out of the room and the gentleman from the customer, because I walked in that room as a storage admin and I walked out as a data fabric architect, right? It's happening. It is pretty good validation. It's happening right now, right? The personas, even the personas that we traditionally know are certainly changing. What are you saying? To that point, we're seeing some of the attributes that service providers are offering. We're seeing enterprises at the same time try to build those at scale. And it's really been amazing as we're seeing, you spoke about speed as the new agility on here. And it's really the agility to be kind of build those infrastructures quickly and take advantage of that at a business advantage level. And a lot of the most technical customers of ours are saying now they have a seat at the table to kind of inspire some of those business innovations. They see how they could make the company more efficient and all of a sudden they're getting a lot more attention at the sea level. All right, so a few years ago there was the wave of big data. And it was really what I summed it up and one of the key findings was it was that bit flip of saying, oh my gosh, I have so much data too. Oh yeah, I've got so much data and I can take advantage of it. What I want you to help connect us is when you talk about being data driven, NetApp at its core is there's storage, there's infrastructure, there's software. How do I then get the insights and the value out of the data that I've helped my customers get to? So let me give you an example of what NetApp is doing around this very issue. So we have a very large install base like you talked about. We have a new product called ActiveIQ and what it does is based on community wisdom, pulled from 30,000 or more installed systems across our entire customer base. And what we do is we use AIML to extract value and intelligent insights and then actionable plans for our customers so even if our customer doesn't have 30,000 units installed they can take advantage of all of that knowledge themselves. So we drink our own champagne and we apply the things that we learn but we can also help customers do the same thing in their own business as an extract value from their own data. I'm curious too from a company as history does NetApp, formerly network appliance, how is a NetApp drinking our own champagne example? How does that influence customers' perspective on NetApp's transformation and convince a customer to trust NetApp and go yes, this is a partner that I want to work with to help us be able to just do this point, not just amass a ton of data and de-silo but extract insights that are essential to drive business change. So we actually have some breakout sessions here where NetApp IT is speaking to that. Talking about how we have, that's NetApp on NetApp. We've got the active IQ data coming in to an all-flash-faz tier, being tiered down through e-series to object storage to the giant data lake of active IQ doing analytics on that. And so that's a great reference for us. We're able to have them speak to our customers directly eye to eye in our executive briefing centers and oftentimes that pushes them over the edge on that one. Because we're living the dream and we're making our own mistakes along the way and so when we have folks from our NetApp's own IT department come speak with customers it's very credible about, oh, we did this, it worked, we did this, it didn't work so much, right? But we're in that same transformation journey as our customers as well. Well, the failure I always say is my, it's not a bad afford, it's part of that journey. Yes. Well, finishing up Nancy with you, talk to us about the Mia customer example that really articulates the value that NetApp is delivering as an enabler of a data-driven company. So one of my favorites these days is we work with a company called Children's Mercy Hospital Kansas City, right? And they brought us new CIO in. He was really interested in transforming the IT experience for his clinicians, right? These are the people that work with kids in the hospital, sick kids, they're stressed out families. And I love this story because it's very easy for me to imagine if my child was in the hospital how stressed out I would be to have a clinician walk in, fast easy access to the latest data about my child, a happy clinician. That would be such an impact to me. And so to see what our customers are doing at Children's Mercy, and they're also multi-cloud. They've got their own private clouds, they're accelerating their VDI, they're working with public clouds all through NetApp product. In the end, to help those kids and to help maybe some mom somewhere via just a smidge, less stress. Are you helping them to use some of the emerging technologies, IOT, AI, to drive faster, better outcomes and decision-making for these critical, literally life and death situations? Exactly. So the first project we're working on them is about accelerating their VDI.  So whatever room that clinician is in, he has access, or she has access to the latest data about that child, right? And to make the overall just a better experience. So that the new CIO is very keen on just delivering a better experience, not better technology, but a better experience for his clinicians and for his patients. Nancy and Dale, thanks so much for stopping by on day one of Inside. We appreciate your time. Got to give you some cube stickers because you're double alumni now. We're alums. Thank you very much. We want to thank you. I'm Lisa Martin with Stu Miniman for watching theCUBE. Again, we're live all day at NetApp Insight 2018. Stick around, Stu and I will be right back with our next guest.