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They do beautiful energy work out into the world. And if you would like to become a facilitator or if you're interested in taking the classes, buying the books, products, go to Dr. Dane here or access consciousness.com. They are friends to the show. So I'm leading in to tell you about my guest today and he works with something that I'm fascinated by and have of all the many, many explorations I've done in the deep metaphysical healing energy world. I have not done this yet, but I'm still really fascinated because there's a lot of different ways people use NLP. So if you would like to receive today a special blend of neuro-linguistic programming better known as NLP, my guest is Art Geiser and he's the creator of energetic NLP and transformative energy work. He's an internationally renowned NLP trainer, executive coach, intuitive and healer and art is known for his miraculous remote energy work and his ability to help people release energetic and unconscious blocks and open up their abilities. Art's diverse background includes working with Fortune 100 companies to develop exceptional leaders and teams. 11 years as a medical researcher, NLP, spirituality, coaching, transformative healing energy work, and intuitive development. And if you would like to learn more about him, go to enlp in the number three dot com and it's right there in the notes. And I welcome Art Geiser to the Dare to Dream show. Hi, it's great to have you. I'm honored to be here. You have such incredible guests. You know, since we met a couple of months ago, I've been listening to some of the podcasts and you have you know, when we tagged her and James Redfield and just so many great people. So I'm honored to be on the show with you. Thank you and you're in great company and they're in great company with you as well. You know, you have a big presence out in the world and so let's talk with why you created your own form, if you will, your own brew of NLP called energetic NLP. How did that soup come about? Well, in spite of all the work I've done in corporations about people having goals and planning, my life has mainly been very, very synchronistic things to sort of happen. And I think a lot of people in personal development. Well, I mean, if I go back to when I was a child, there are two things that fascinated me. One was science. My father was from the early computer guys. I mean, nowadays, a lot of young people growing up around technology, but I'm like my father was in charge of running the third mainframe computer commercial one.  But the other side of me was fascinated with the powers of the unconscious mind and mysticism. And I just somehow knew all of that was true. And even though so many people think science and the mystical are opposed, I've never thought that. So, and I was a very adventurous person. And then I got stuck. I got stuck for years, years. I mean, it's embarrassing to me now, how long I was stuck. And energetic NLP really came out of what I did to get myself unstuck. And then what I've done with people over the last 35 years, but what actually happened for me is I went to a talk on intuition. It was just an okay talk. But during the break, I went out in the hallway and there was bulletin board with flyers on it. And I looked at one and it said neuro and lipstick programming. And when I read the words, it literally felt like a bolt of lightning hit me on top of the head and went through my body. And I was like, I mean, literally like boom. And the scientist to me was right. What was that? And the mystic to me was right. Oh, it's a sign. And then, and I'm not sure what to do with this. And at the top, they were selling a lot of books on intuition development and psychic development and things. And one of the books was an NLP book, which had nothing to do with intuition development. I thought, that's interesting. And then, but everything was like magical ever since then, I, when the developers of NLP became my mentor, I'll just sort of happened. And I loved it and it took to it very quickly. But because I was studying it in Marin County in Northern California, there were a lot of people into psychic development and healing and spirituality. And people started them, I had studied a little bit of it, but I've never gotten that far with it. And they began to teach me and introduced me to teachers. And one of them went, oh, this is incredible psychic. He's a friend of ours. He and his wife, and she's an incredible psychic too, are in town and they're doing a workshop next weekend. They come over Wednesday night and they're just doing readings on people.  So I show up and I got there late and everybody's sitting in the circle and this Lynn Martin has his eyes closed and everybody's getting to ask him a question. And I was really excited about NLP, but I didn't know what to do with it. Like, should I teach NLP? Should I work one on one? Should I take it into the corporate world? I had no idea what I was going to do with it. And when people would ask him questions, he would give them an answer. And sometimes the answer didn't sound that profound to me, but I'd look at them and you could see they were like, so I thought, that's interesting. But if they asked a decision question, he'd always go, you have free will, it's not for me to tell you. So sometimes I'm going to slow study. So when it came to me, I went, I learned about this wonderful NLP and I'm not sure what to do with it. And I'm thinking of these different things. And he goes, well, you have free will, it's not for me to tell you what to do. And then he goes, but there's something else. And he proceeds to tell me my biggest fear, which I had never told to anybody, but I still don't tell the people. And it probably didn't sound that unusual to anybody else, but it was my secret fear. And he said it to me. And then he goes, you don't have to worry about that. And goes on to the next person. And I felt like this weight come off me. And I cleared the decks and I took his workshop the next weekend. And by the end of it, I could do these amazing things. And then since then, I've stood with amazing, like, Philippine and South American and Western healers and had two impairments from the Dalai Lama. And this continuously learning and developing it. So then I had these two fields, NLP, where you could get magical results for people. And if people aren't familiar with NLP, the most famous person in our field is Tony Robbins. And he does his own Ra Ra Tony thing around it. But the core of his power to change people is NLP. And I found like NLP was incredible. And it had its limitations. And the spiritual energetic work was incredible, but it had some limitations. And when you put them together, it was like one plus one equal to 100. And so that that was the birth of energetic energy. So it all came out of my being stuck for years. And having a fear that got addressed. And I think that is so profound that you had that experience. And at some level, you're being must have been very willing to release that because 30 other people could have heard the same thing and not shifted. But you did. And you shifted deeply into this. And I, you know, I got a download while I was reading your bios. So I want to ask you, I have recently become fascinated with the idea of a blueprint that we live out of. And many times, well, obviously, sometimes a blueprint can be you make a lot of money, you have a great love life, you have the very healthy body. I mean, there's a lot of blueprints, right, that we can choose and create around. But also there can be aberrant blueprints that some people liken it to a groove of a record going around and around is like, why am I having the same experience? You know, I'm always getting crushed. I always feel abandoned. I always feel rejected. It's like, you can't seem to be loved. And I was listening to a shaman talk about this. And even though I understand the premise, something about the way he talked about it just sort of cracked me right open. And now I'm hungry. And I've even experienced so retrieval. And I mean, I've been around a lot of blocks, but this made me like, no, I want that. I'm tired of this. I want that. I want the light to pour in where the cracks have been. And I'm curious if that is something in your energetic NLP that you're able to access and work on? Yes. And if I can make a side comment before I answer that, I never just give talks. I always run energy. And one of my specialty is remote energy work, which by the way, anybody can learn to do. So it's not, I'm not bragging, but I have learned to do it. And so people are listening to this when they're driving, please turn it off. Because I'll start running a lot of high frequency energies and they're designed to get you to go inward. And not the way you want to be when you're driving. They're great for transforming your life. Not great for driving. So I know a lot of people listen to podcasts when they're driving. So it's like to tell people, don't listen to me while you're driving. But coming back to the blueprints. Yeah, there's a lot of ways you can look at it. So one is the karmic condition you're in. And I do a lot of work around karma. Another is what are called spiritual contracts. And their contract agreements that we may be on the level of our spirit, our soul, our conscious mind. And they can come from other lifetimes. They can come from this lifetime. And a lot of people believe, and Carolyn might, I know you've interviewed, she has a whole book on spiritual contracts. But they, I think of them not in a negative way. But I call all that spiritual cages. So there's always things that you're finding our lives and limiting it.  The catharsis. So your karma creates. There's a catharsis going on because if our soul had a contract, listen, listen, dear love. I'm really sorry to tell you, but you're going to experience X, Y, and Z. But there's a reason because we are clearing that out. We're clearing the karma out. This is what I hear you saying. We're also clearing out the incidents so that there's ultimately a deep healing. And we don't have to do this again. Is that correct? Yes. And what makes it even better though, is that a lot of the contracts can be changed. The karma can be changed. Because it necessarily have to be worked out. It's like that. And people have a lot of different ways to use the concept of karma. I use the one that Dolly Llama talks about. And there's a great book, The Universe and the Single Adam, where he talks about it. And in it he talks about karma isn't, because it's not some eastern version of reward and punishment in heaven and hell. Because it's just cause effects. Everything you think and do has effects that ripple through time, including from past lives. And you can, most of the karma, you can clear and change. You don't have to necessarily do, you know, it isn't like, so you were bad another lifetime, you necessarily have to be good. I mean, that's one way to work with it. But a lot of karma you can just release. I mean, I think it's in this new age that we're literally are coming into, more and more people are going, well, I don't have to work it out. So the example I always like to use is, let's say Hitler is reincarnated. Which would you rather, that he's having a miserable life and suffering, or he's this wonderful, joyful person bringing light into the world? You know, I'd rather, if he's being incarnated, be a wonderful person bringing light into the world.  You know, he says, and I do a lot of work with, a lot of the, I should say to everybody, I made up a term in energetic NLP, it's beliefs du jour, like suit du jour. And in energetic NLP, I make people take a pledge at the beginning of the training programs that they're not going to believe anything I tell them. And that they're going to explore and discover their own inner wisdom and spiritual information. And I know, was it Sean Carroll, is it that last thing that you had on recently? Sean Stone? He said, Sean Stone, I just heard that, I don't know where they tell. Yeah, he's someone, he was talking about symbolism and about everybody finding their own truth. Yes. I mean, a lot of his ideas are very different than mine, but, but in my work, it's always about my job is to help people connect with their own spirit and their own inner wisdom, and not to believe what I'm telling them. I want them to play with what I'm telling them. And, and so I encourage them not to take their beliefs that seriously. You've got to work out of them. But to me, like, if somebody said 10 years from now art, you're going to believe exactly what you believe today. I would find that depressing. It's like, well, what have I been doing for 10 years? Have I learned anything? Even if the words sounded the same, my understanding of the beliefs would deepen and change. So in my work, I'm always encouraging people to connect with their own inner wisdom and spirit. But my experiences, having said all that, is that karma can be cleared and changed. Spiritual contracts can be changed. And I do a lot of work with spiritual contracts, and they are creating blueprints for your lives. And a lot of people just end spiritual contracts. I don't think that's necessarily the right thing to do. Some you want to end. A lot of them, your spirit will want to revise them, not so much as end them. And others of them, your spirit will go, no, you can't change them until you've learned something or done something. And so in the way I work with contracts, which is kind of unique, we sort the contracts out and you deal with them in those levels, if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. Which one can you end? You do these in sessions personally or remotely with people. Yeah, that's just so important to me right now. I do a lot online with that. And you mentioned, and I think this is why I have that feeling art, is because you said this new time we're coming into. So let me be clear when he says that. Me too. Like I have been getting downloads, because I don't want to paint myself as something that fabulous. I want to be clear in the beginning. I was like, oh yeah, this is going to pass. And when I realized, oh, this is not passing, there's something else going on, I immediately started getting a lot of information. And the information was deeply spiritual. And this is as a collective, this is as an individual, which we all know is an illusion anyway. And this is the A, what have you not been facing? What have you not been dealing with? Who have you not been?  Yeah, think there's something to take a look at and feel and get through and grieve and whatever it is to become and fully step into. And then it is a planet, dear God, to stop raping the planet and the waters and the skies and the animals and politics. I mean, this is not just a reset and a back to normal. I know this and I don't even know what that looks like going forward. So will you address that? Because I profoundly am there.  Yes, yeah.  It's just getting rid of the unconscious program, the energetic program, the spiritual contracts, the ancestral program and the karma that keeps us from being these incredible beings. And and I totally agree. I mean, we manifested collectively this pandemic. But I like to put it in perspective to if you look at the 20th century, everybody seems to have forgotten where the 19th or the 20th century was.  I mean, there were people in trenches fighting each other for years, you know, and dying of the Spanish flu at the same time. Then they had a little break. Then there was the Great Depression. Then there was World War Two, the Holocaust.  I mean, there were just so many horrible things going on. So to me, it's like, it's fascinating to me. And I don't want to minimize the suffering that some people are going through the pandemic, because it certainly are. But when you compare it like during World War Two or the Rwandan genocide or something, I see this manatee moving up. And like we've created a crisis for our growth, what people call a healing crisis. But we've done one.  And this is huge. But still compared to things like the Rwandan genocide or the Holocaust or, you know, all of these things. I believe humanity is upping our game. And we're realizing we don't have to have those levels of horror for us to change. And then we're learning. I think this is an opportunity to realize we can get the messages we can work with them. And those blueprints can shift when we get the message. It's like, then there's not the spiritual forces trying to, like I mentioned with the spiritual contracts, some of them I call learn-dos. And when I would work with people, we couldn't change those until they, you know, their spirit would be going, you have to learn something or do something or both. And I think all of this is humanity. Like I said, this opportunity to wake up and go and look at everything from income and equality and racial, you know, the inequalities going on there and pollution and how we're treating one another.  And all of a sudden, my game, the toilet paper. And I mean, it's a great awakening. And I think that when we embrace it being that, then the opportunities are quite amazing. Yeah. And a pandemic, by the way, can only happen when there's a lack of balance. So we have as a humanity and so at a balance that we basically welcomed it in, right? I mean, we all have germs going through us all the time, but we don't always get a cold and a virus. We get it when our immune system is down and collectively, our immune system has been down. So in light of that and everything you just shared about almost the invitation of why we brought this on, if you will, what is so you have some terms like miraculous self and whole being permission. Pretty delicious art. What are those mean for right now and for going forward? Thank you for asking. There's central ideas that are unique to energetic NLP. The miraculous self, and I always have to tell people ahead of time, it's not the same as your high self. I don't know, people always want to make it the same thing. It's like your high self is a wonderful concept. This is something different. Your high self just exists. Your miraculous self is something that only kind of sort of exists. It's like a muscle in your body you've never used. And until you start using it, it doesn't develop. What I began to discover years ago when I've been working with people is there's a whole set of different agendas going on. So people would talk about, well, I'm visualizing what I want and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And there's a whole series of agendas that create this what we call whole being permission.  Your conscious mind has at least one agenda, often several. Your unconscious mind will have lots of agendas. Your body has its agendas. And then you have the limitations of spiritual contracts and karma.  And that's why so often in life people go, this part of my life really works, but these don't. Or like I start getting financial abundance and then it always falls apart. Or I start finding love, but it always falls apart. One of those areas will be out of balance or out of whack. And the miraculous self is when your spirit, with its cosmic great awareness, and your inner human wisdom are aligned. And you might think they'd automatically be aligned, but they're not. And people use words like spirit and soul to mean different things. A lot of systems talk about the person as an individual spirit and individual soul, but they use words in opposite ways. And so what I mean by it, if you think of the non-physical self, and then you get into the etheric where, and then into the astral and higher levels of energy, what I'm calling your soul is the lower frequencies of your non-physical self. Not lower as inferior, but they're closer to physicality and they're closer to the human condition. And you mentioned earlier, soul retrieval. You know, years ago I go, souls can't be damaged and they can't be broken. But I was thinking what I would now call your spirit. So this lower level of the non-physical you, it's like a click up from your personality. It has programming. It has issues. It has wants. It has needs. It has fears, desires. As you get into higher and higher frequencies, you get into your vast as well, what I'm called your spirit. And your spirit is kind of like the perfect parent. Within limits, it's going whatever you want here. You want financial abundance? Well, that's a valid spiritual path. You want to struggle to get by every week? Well, that's another valid spiritual path.  Fine. You want your heart broken?  And so you have your spirit, it's got this vast awareness, but it just sees so many things as being valid, where your human inner wisdom is just that. So when it's communicating with your spirit, it can go, yeah, I know that, that my getting sick is a valid spiritual path. But is there another way for me to do this? Or getting my heart broken? Is there another way for me to do this?  So they're informing each other. And then you connect it to your conscious mind, unconscious mind and body. So you're being guided, supported, nurtured, loved in everything you do. So, and in a little bit, if you want, I can help people start creating a marine console for themselves. Oh, God, let's say kind of sort of exist. That would be too kind. In fact, I'm glad you said that because I want to just interject for people listening, people watching, you want to stay with us because art actually is going to be doing some transmission, some very specific healing transmissions. I ain't going to tell you when you got to stick around, but do stick around because he is going to do it. And it is, I think it's a very compelling, I'm feeling it already, by the way, I'm a deep sensitive. So I already know he's running energy like I'm clear to stay very present right now. But I have to say at a time when a lot of people are not feeling safe, when they feel separation or anxiety or a lot of bummer about what's going on. And all the changes and the not knowingness, a tremendous uncertainty. At the very least, this is great for you for those who are even using this time to say, hmm, okay, cool, God, goddess, you got my attention. What else is possible? You know, and this stuff can also, if you're widened back enough, can also help some possibilities to come into your space. So art is already running energy and sensitives will know that. And then he's going to do some very specific things for us later. So just so you are aware of what's happening. So forgive me, I wanted to throw that in there. But I, I love the idea that, yeah, my pleasure, you were talking about you can run something for us to go into our miraculous self. And you know what, what does that mean, though? I heard your words, but still what give me like marketing benefits. Why do I want to be my miraculous self? Does that mean that I'm going to be experiencing miracles? Yeah. Okay, that's pretty easy. Yeah. And then I'll be my highest self, my best self, most magnetic. Yeah.  So it's something that gets better and better and better. But even the beginning stages of it, it's very powerful. And think of it like if you, you know, the old Disney cartoon with Pinocchio with Jiminy Crickets, they're giving Pinocchio advice.   It can help you be at the right place at the right time and not be at the wrong place at the wrong time. It can help you make decisions. It can help you. I believe, and I always had to put a caveat because I was a medical researcher. I can't prove this to you, but I believe it can actually work with the physicality of your body and guiding. So if you think of like the immune system, a lot of immune system problems are your immune system either isn't working on something that it shouldn't work on, or like with allergies and other immune diseases, attacking things that shouldn't attack. And I believe that you can connect your miraculous self in to improve those. I know it helps decisions and it helps. It really helps every aspect of your life. So it's like having this incredible guide mentor, but who can do more than that? Who can actually work with your energy, too, if you give it permission. And it's all, everything in energetic therapy is permission-based. So if you, the more you give your moracks of permission, not again to be in charge, but to work with you and to work with the energy. And you know, people in my program, should we laugh, because the synchronicities get hysterical. Like I was teaching in Paris and they used, I don't know if they still have it. There was a magazine called Periscope, and it was free. And it was like, what's going on in Paris that we gave them to show us our galleries and stuff. And they have whatever the cover is, they would have posters up all over the metro and stuff. And the first time I taught in Paris, my sponsor that goes, you're not going to believe this. And she that week's copy of Periscope on the cover goes, Art in Paris. And we're not going. And I went, she goes, you feel properly welcomed. And I go, all over the metros and all the posters, Art in Paris. That's beautiful. I love the very way it's actually communicated with. Okay, well, you know, yeah, well, I mean, I'll have some of that, please. I'll take a piece of that pie or the whole pie. So cool. So we're going to take a quick break here. And when we come back, Art will be actually taking us through something. So definitely stick a round. And for those of you who are ready to stand for your greatness, because there's plenty of people out there are saying, I'm so bored right now. I'm bored out of my gourd. Well, if you would like a way to channel your creativity, take action, you can join the visible visionary group. It is a membership platform to start writing your book to take your book from start to finish. And I'm going to show you how to write a page Turner. I have been doing free webinars on this leading up to the membership. 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Let me let you take it from here and let me know whatever we need to do. Feet on the floor or any kind of breathing or I'm your every man, every woman. Great. So the really hard part of this is just relax and have fun with it. In energetic NLP, we believe that, I mean, there are energy systems for people are very serious and concentrate hard and that's great. Energetic NLP is the opposite. I discovered years ago that the more playful we were, like in my workshops, if people get too serious, literally I start seeing old McDonald and things. And I go like, just be playful, have fun with this, do it wrong, don't try to do it right. And the advantages, so we're going to start building a miraculous cell for everybody. And then I'll just run some energy. And when I work with people, what everybody can do if you want is you'll put your miraculous cell in charge.  So again, the hard part of this is just to relax. The other thing I like to warn people is some of the energies are very high frequency and that's deliberate because that puts you into a state where it's really easy to make deep transformation. So if later I or Debbie are talking and you're going, I don't really remember what happened, that's fine. You know, people are always ready to go, I think I missed it. And I go, no, you were just off in another zone, another realm of reality. You might have even fallen asleep. It's fine if any of that happens.  Right now, just relax. I mean, how often in life do people go, don't work hard, don't relax, don't do it right. Take a deep breath. And what you do need to do consciously if you want this, and again, our primary goal here is that you start creating and strengthening your miraculous self, which is again, your spirit with its vast awareness, and your human inner wisdom really working together to create a life for you that's miraculous. It's flowing when you're guided, nurtured, loved and supported. And you feel that no matter what's going on.  When you really have your miraculous self there is underneath whatever experiences you're having, you feel solid, you have this core of spiritual joy that's still there. And you don't suppress the other emotions.  But under that, I felt solid. And that's what my students talk about too. So that's another really great things about it is whatever life throws at you, you can feel like whatever that is. There's some kind of like Facebook or messages, if you could turn that off. Just because if we close our eyes, it could be a little jarring. But I love, I'll just talk while you do that. I love that idea. Because that's a lot of what I've been feeling, what I feel called to, I mean, there's so much is sort of very intimate for me to share some of this. So I may keep it somewhat generic, although art you're probably feeling sensing anyway. Sure. Exactly matrix wise what the truth is. But I feel like, you know, some of the things that have been running me, and that is very much what it feels like in my life. It's like, I have this huge call to step into power. And I know that's bandied about, and I mean that, I really mean like there's a core shaman living inside of me, who's like, yeah, all that other that was child's play this is now. And it's like, I can feel that and sense that I have at times even been that, but definitely not consistently. And I certainly don't know what a call on it like a like a stake in the ground. And so I intimately understand what you're talking about all of it. Yeah.  You know, if I, if I run on the other end of this, I close my eyes or whatever people are comfortable with. And with your permission, I'll help you some with that. And if I could just say, you know, you said sometimes you are that you might try on the idea that you always are that you just can't always manifest that.   And we come into this lifetime of limitations and I think the opportunity is to keep opening up more and more and blossom more and more. And the other thing for people when we're doing this process, I would encourage you and they're great concepts, but in energetic, we don't usually talk about like highest and best would be your best self because of the perfectionism in that it's like my goal with people is you get you enhance your unleashed more you your life becomes more and more miraculous. So for the next few minutes of like people don't try to do it, right? Don't try to reach in a particular goal. Just trust if you're only in your wisdom and spirit and charge, you're moving on a wonderful spiritual path. And that, you know, you just keep getting better. So everybody take an easy deep breath. And I because once you mark yourself is is really strong, I will run energy and then and again, I want to make sure anybody can learn how to do that. It's not some mysterious gift that only a few of us can do that. I'll be running energies.  I mean, I've been doing this work for many, many, many, many years. And I'm always getting emails from people like, Oh, you said the recording should work. And I didn't believe it and like, Oh my God. Now I really felt the energy and things change. So just let the energy run. It doesn't matter if you feel it or not. If you feel it, that's fun. You don't need to feel it. You may temporarily feel discomfort, aches and pains. And that's sometimes when the energy hits blocks, it's uncomfortable. So if that happens, that's fine. You know, it'll pass. If emotions come up, just be mindful of them. Because sometimes when it's the energy is flowing, a lot different emotions come up, you might get irritated, you might get frustrated, you might get anxious. If that happens, just be mindful of it and go, Oh, I'm releasing old energies. And they're probably not even your energies to begin with. So just be mindful and let yourself have whatever experience you have. So easy, deep breaths. If you want to have a miraculous self right now, just say yes. I want a miraculous self. I want it to form right now. I want it to form right now. And then as a conscious being, you have a right to make choices in your life. So just go, I'm giving 100% permission for that to happen right now. I'm giving 100% permission for that to happen now. And notice the way I did it and Debbie did it. It's not like, I'm getting permission. It says I'm getting permission. Done. Okay, so let's get this going.  The same for everybody listening, your own guides, angels, however you think of these things, they're really ready to help you. There's no effort involved, just intention and permission.  I give 100% permission to connect to my conscious mind, my unconscious mind, and my body. Fantastic. And as your miraculous self is forming and strengthening, give it 100% permission to work with the energies that are coming in now to clear whatever your miraculous self wants to clear, heal what it wants to heal, open up whatever abilities, resources in you. I mean, I believe that every single human being is an embodiment of a vast powerful, beautiful spiritual being. And there's an opportunity to manifest more of who and what you really are in this lifetime. I give 100% permission for anything that is not of my highest good or serves me to be cleared, to be healed, for new energies to be brought in, and new abilities to be initiated completely right now. And for everybody, be comfortable with, don't, I used to always try to max everything out. It's really a bad idea with energy work. More and faster is not the same as better. So the wonderful thing, this is a podcast, it will be on Debbie's channel, it'll be on our YouTube channels. You don't have to do it all at once. So just let whatever is, I think it would be like Goldilocks, whatever is just right for right now. Because I can tell you from really hard and bitter experience.  And it isn't necessary. So just whatever is just right for right now, part of believing and self-love and self-worth is we don't have to fix ourselves, you know, and reach this magical goal. We're just removing into being more of who we are. So just let it be small and large, whatever you practice stuff wants for right now. You can always listen to this again and take it further. And normally I'd be a little quieter at this point, but Debbie explained to me like on radio, they don't like long silences. So forgive me if I keep talking. And I will say things that I think are helpful. And for those of you who don't want to listen, you can just turn me out. You don't have to do that. It just takes some ease and deep breaths and let the energy become stronger, more effective, more, when I say stronger, it can be this really elegant strong, like the light touch, I think of somebody playing a heart. The energy can work with your energy on somebody playing a heart. They're just plucking it here and there and then beautiful things are happening. We don't need to be the drum section. Just light, easy. And again, the goal is that as you go through life, you're consciously, unconsciously, physically guided, loved, supported and nurtured by your miraculous self. And when that happens, you're also more guided, loved, nurtured, and supported by whatever you think is beyond that, whether you call it God or spirit or goddess or deities or Buddha or Allah or Vishnu or Shiva or Brahma, whatever your beliefs are.  And that makes your life more and more miraculous. Not that you never have challenges, but that your guidance, support and help, no matter what's going on. And a lot of things just become incredibly easier. Easy to depress, remember no effort, no pressure, just allowing your miraculous self and the energy does all the work. And when you do a lot of different kinds of energy work and definitely energetic NLP, the processing goes on for days, even weeks. And while the other energies are continuing, we're going to start bringing in energies that will help you process and integrate this so that the changes you're making will be as easy and flowing as possible. In fact, sometimes they're so easy and flowing that people don't realize until later they go, wait a minute, in the past I would have acted differently or I haven't felt as anxious or there's an often it's maybe not so a friend goes, you seem a little happier than you did before you're calmer, you know, you have more joy. And for everybody, a lot of energy coming to your heart, you really get a great healing in the heart energy center, heart chakra in the center of the chest. We hold a lot of pain there often a lot of it's other people's pain. So let's let that release. And to the extent that your miraculous self wants it, some of the shielding we have around our heart that we put on when we were younger that we don't actually need anymore. If your miraculous self doesn't need that shield anymore, and it's actually in your way, let more of that clear. And then you can allow in more infinite universal love and more human love. And the infinite universal love has no judgments attached to it. It's not it has no well you can get this love when you've done something you changed. It's just spirit loving us just as we are. And a lot of you are quite familiar with the idea of grounding. I'd like you to try what will be a different way of grounding. Usually people ground themselves into the earth. Well the earth is more powerful than we are. So I like to let the earth do the work. So give the earth permission to ground you right now. And one way to imagine that and it's only going to ground your authentic energy into your body, not the other energies in your energy field. It's only grounding your authentic energy into your body. And one kind of a fun way to imagine is imagine every cell in your body has a point of light in your energy body. So every physical cell has a point of light that goes with it. And when the earth grounds you, every point of light pops in the cell it's supposed to be in because they get out of alignment. Just see them all like so that you're aligned. And let's let your miraculous self bring more of your authentic essence into your body and energy field. We're so quagged with other people's energies. We literally shove our own energy out. So right now let your miraculous self bring more of this incredible being you are into your body. Along and into the energy field in and around your body, your chakras, your energy channels. And it will also bring in earth and universal energies that will support you in your next steps in life and in having a more miraculous life. Okay, easy deep breaths. We're winding down the energy and just bringing in that energy to help you process it, integrate. And there's something we do in energetic NLP that I think you're all like. So we've all had the experience of somebody changes their email address. So we get an email going, this is my new address. You can't find me at the old one anymore. This is how I find me. Well, when your energy gets better, it can throw people, even your pets, your dogs and cats sometimes get a little weird because you're different and they don't understand it, even if it's different and better.  And this spiritual email is just saying, oh, this is my new energy address. I'm not at the old one anymore. And you're not asking for approval or permission. You're, it's just like getting a change of address email. It's like, this is my new address. This is how to find you. And this is how to recognize me. And you're probably lucky better, but nonetheless, this is the new one. Okay, so let's come back to it. Let's bring in energy so there's sparkling that will make you alert again. It helps to stop your feet, pat your body, touch the tips of your fingers with your toes. Oh my gosh. Feels like you're living. Yes, go ahead. That was so beautiful. That was so amazing. I can't believe how long we were out for. Wow, thank you. That was, that was a beyond gift. I had to remind myself, honestly, I had to go remind myself to be present where I was, because I could have gone far away. At one point early on, my God, I had a pain back right here. If you can see that I've never had before. Did I have to breathe through that? I just had to make the premise that something major was being removed. Then I had, it felt like I'd been chewing gum, almost TMJ like, and that I just breathed into while that was removed. Later on, I felt something, I didn't know what was going on. And then I went, Oh, this is sacred. I feel like stuff is being taken out of my sacred shop. And then just when I thought that was done, like, okay, that was great, we're done. Let's just breathe into this. This is beautiful. I'm freaking feeling amazing. Then right above both knees, almost, we have knock knees, but just above. There was something big going on there. And there was more almost extraction. And it was pretty profound. Like, I just was like, do it, right? Whatever, you get some boards going into that head, neck area that got got removed. And there's some a lot of programming attached to them, a lot of ancestral stuff. Interesting. Thank you. And some of it, you know, we have ancestral from our physical line, but we can have ancestor, ancestral from past lives. And just anybody's listening is not into past lives. You know, who knows what the truth is about it? All I know is that people have energy in their energy fields that are from other people, other lives, you know, so how that works. I'm very pragmatic. It's like, how it works, what it all means.  I just know it's there. And when you clear it, your life gets better. Yeah, without a doubt, you're not carrying all that baggage around. So, Art, people can reach you at energeticnlp.com. Yes. And so, and they can reach me at energeticnlp.com. And right now, I have a, I did a two-hour, I call them energy spas, energy spa session, all on coronavirus and everything around it. And we work on karma and contracts and all kinds of things. It's free. And it's at miraculous cell forward slash corona webinar, if people want. But if they just go to one and the other ones, if they get on my mailing list, I'll mail that all out to them. And then I have a program that's a whole extended program on really building up your miraculous self. And because of the so many people are hurting economically right now, it's 85% off. But if they're on my mailing list, they'll find out about any of that if they're interested. Okay. So I'm crazy about you now and your work. I'm like totally thinking it. So how else can they work with you?   So can you just, just a few, like give me a bullet point or two before we end here. I'm sorry, a bullet point about. Oh, yeah. Like what are the ways they can work with you, maybe become a facilitator, maybe be a student of and etc. Well, I'm going to be starting again. We have a program called the M Club that I'm really proud of that it's, it's both all of my programs are personal and spiritual development programs, but, but it's also a training program because everybody can learn to work with energy. It's a, I mean, my ego would love it if it was a special gift, only a few of us say out, but everybody, everybody's a miraculous being. And, and I love opening up that in people. But I also, for people that are experienced, a lot of people that work with me have been doing energy work from 10 to 30 years. And they take what they already can do. And one of my gifts is I help people take whatever they do to the next level. And that's one of my gifts is really opening up people's abilities. So that's called the M Club. And then I have discovered Murat himself was an online program. I have other online programs and we're starting again. They can find me on Facebook, your energetic NLP, I do Facebook lives. And I also do about something called the Transformation Accelerator Program, which is a one to one.   And I go, you know, I got to be giving my friend trouble. I go, are you guys getting on Zoom? I'm messing it up. But for those of us who have seen your, but 99% of my work is, is remote through Zoom or, or whatever. So I can work with people wherever they are. And if they get on my mailing list, we're going to be doing a lot of mailings lately, both for free and, and, and other kinds of programs. So people are energetic NLP.com sign up, they will hear all about it. And I do recommend again, and they'll hear about that coronavirus webinar, I've been getting really, really gratifying, wonderful feedback from people on that. So kind of, I know I'm on your list and that you've been giving a ton away, and it's so kind of you to serve like this at a time when it's needed. This is dare to dream art. What are you next year to dream? What are your future dreams or goals? Yeah, thank you. I want to take, I want to get my work way more out in the world. In fact, let me talk to you about your program, the visibility program. I'm really proud of what I've done and the people I've helped, but I know I could be helping so many more people. So that's my dream now is to, in fact, a number of sites, they'll just tell me they go, I see you in stadiums talking to stadiums full of people. And when they say that, it feels right.  I would love to be helping that many people at one time. So that's, that's my dare to dream. That's beautiful. I love that big exposure and mass influence. That is what it's all about, because that is positive, my friend. All right. Yeah, that's what you're doing. Yeah, my own humble way. Thank you so much for sharing your gifts, your brilliance on dare to dream today. It's really been a pleasure. Oh, I was, we met at this new media summit and Debbie was, and there were a number of podcasts there. Debbie was the person I most wanted to get interviewed by. So I was thrilled that you offered it. So thank you so much. Your miraculous self created it, but I have to admit, when you were on stage pitching, and I heard you say NLP, and I sort of checked you out a little bit, I was like, so we were meant to connect, my friend. And yeah, yay for that miraculous selves connecting. I'm so grateful for today. And I'm still feeling the beautiful influence of what you just gave us. And I'm looking forward to the next weeks and seeing how this all like just the river transpires. And what a contribution. I'm going to end today's show with this quote from Eckhart Tolle, which is life will give you whatever experience is most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness. You're ready to write a chapter in a book about dogs. I have the anthology, which is called The Ultimate Dog Lovers. And I'm taking you through the entire process. Just check out debbyd.net slash anthology and register because you definitely want to get one of those chapters if your heart is called to it. If you're an author and you would like to be coached on the platform for, you know, a very affordable platform I've just created, which is debbie dashinger.com slash visible visionaries. And I will help you write your book. Super excited about that. And next week on this number one transformation conversation. Gosh, I have so many guests coming up. I'm trying to follow, but Dr. Sue Porter, you absolutely want to listen to that conversation. I am telling you, we were talking about way beyond this planet and into the cosmos. I woke up this morning thinking about it. This is why I love this show. What art's going to do is going to influence me down the road. What Dr. Sue does influences me down the road. I am so deeply grateful to do what I do and I couldn't do it without you. And remember to dare. That really is the operative word.  And now you have a miraculous self to boot. Thanks for joining us today.


The Equitable Life Assurance Society presents this is your FBI. This is your FBI, an official broadcast from the files of the Federal Bureau of Investigation presented as a public service by the Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States and the Equitable Society's representative in your community. In these programs you may have noticed that we of the Equitable Life Assurance Society usually speak of the men and women who own Equitable Life Insurance policies as members of the society. In calling them members, we're being strictly accurate. For when you purchase life insurance from the Equitable Society, you really are joining a society. Your policy is your certificate of membership in a great cooperative enterprise which is run solely for the benefit of its members. Get to know the Equitable Society representative in your community. He is the never-failing source of all those benefits which accrue to members and those who were to become members of the Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States. Tonight's FBI file, the Pan American Patriot. During the past few months following VJ Day, many pages of your FBI's secret war diary have been made public. Pages which tell the thrilling story of your FBI's victory over Axis agents here at home. But until now the seal on a certain other chapter has remained unbroken. A chapter which might be entitled, Foreign Operations. Tonight we shall break that seal and bring you for the first time a story of your FBI's foreign operations in South America. Among the most vital points along America's line of communications and supply to the Mediterranean and Middle East during the war were certain ports and relay bases in South America. But in the fall of 1942 information on operations at these points was still getting through to Berlin by secret Nazi radio transmitters. Here was a job for your FBI and this particular story opens on a certain night in the capital city of a certain South American country. Brandly to America but not yet at war with the Axis. Easily the most striking couple on the dance floor of the famous Casa Managua nightclub this night is the very attractive blonde young girl. American or perhaps English and the tall handsome young South American who at this moment suddenly presses the girl closer to him.  I'll get you a dozen more. Then you can end me as a float in the flower carnival. Can't you be serious for just one moment. No I'm allergic to Vita for the millionth time. Will you marry me. No why not because for one thing you're a slave to that old shipping company.  I wouldn't have that on a bed. I feel I'm going out on the terrace for some fresh air. And if you will put your hands in your pockets now and leave them there you make up with me. What a girl. What a girl. Go ahead darling. May I have a cigarette. Sorry my hands are in prison in my pockets. Oh I'll grant them a temporary parole. Good. Here you are. Thank you. And a light. The moon is lovely. Yes. Do you know the lines. Yon rising moon that looks for us again. How often hereafter will she wax and wane. How often hereafter rising look for us through the same garden. It's beautiful. You see. I do have my serious mom. Oh darling.  That has to go. It's driving away. In a house in another part of the city. Special agents James Phillips and Stanley Douglas of the FBI. Working by permission of and in cooperation with the director of National Police. I've established a shortwave radio receiver for the purpose of locating and monitoring the illegal Nazi transmitter known to be operating somewhere in or near the city. Three days ago they had just picked up the transmitter for the first time when suddenly it stopped sending. It is now two nights after the incident at the Casa Managua. Douglas at the receiver keeps the listening vigil with the headphones.  Not a peep. Maybe they've been changing the location of the transmitter. Shouldn't take them three days to do that Jim. Maybe they've also been waiting to get a hold of important information. Like what. That I wouldn't know. But when they do start sending again we'll know what they're talking about. What do you mean.  And when he was confronted with the iron clad case filled up against him. He told all he knew. Here's the whole breakdown on the code the Germans are using. What a break. Yes. Want me to relieve you a while there.  Right. Is the antenna angled in the direction we picked them up before. Yeah it is now. I've been all around with it but I have. Hey wait. Wait a minute. That's something. I think so it's. It's awfully faint and it may not be them. See if you can bring it up with the antenna. That does it all right. Jim it's them. That's their call signal. Good. You spell out the message. I'll take it down and decode it right. Come in. Thank you sir.  Yes and thanks to your men getting that code we know what that something is. Yes. German agents have just transmitted to Berlin some very important information on American ship movements and cargo going out of this port. Shipping information. Yes sir. And there could be a connection between the two. I beg your pardon sir. Mr. Phillips. Not an hour ago we received a report here at headquarters that Rafael Corinto is missing. He's missing two days now. Rafael Corinto. He's connected with one of the Allied shipping firms here. Oh. And he would have access to information on all shipping that enters or leaves this port. Then I should say there could be a connection. What is your suggestion. I have an idea that if we find that German transmitter we'll find Corinto too. But finding the transmitter. The transmitter. That is the problem. A problem that my partner may have solved by now. How. Once a transmitter has been picked up its position can be determined with mathematical precision. I'll get back over to our house and as soon as my partner has the answer I'll contact you sir. Corinto comes to see you brother. Help him a little bit. No. Come. No. Please. Enough. Enough. You are sufficiently awake Corinto. Who. Who are you. One of your hosts. Where am I. That is not important. What. What happened to me. It's quite obvious isn't it. You are Germans. That's right. Nazis. Correct the answer. And in the name of our furor I thank you for having rendered us a great service. What do you mean. You have given us much valuable shipping information which is now in the hand of our intelligence in Berlin. Oh. I don't believe you. Oh you didn't give it willingly. After two days we had to resort to giving you the drugs Kapoloman. Two days. I have been here two days. Oh. What about the girl who was with me what have you done with her. Answer me where is Vera. Oh darling. Darling. Are you all right. Yes I'm fine thank you. What shall we do with him. Just let him stay here. Royline. Vera. He called you Royline. That's right. But why should he go. These men work for me. Vera. You see Vera. As I said on the terrace the other night. I do have my serious side too. Mr. Solano I think we have some good news for you. You have found the German radio transmitter. My partner here Mr. Douglas has determined its location on this map. Good. Where is it. Shones then. Right. I've checked my own calculations three times Mr. Solano and I'm pretty sure this is right. Show me please. I'd swear the transmitter is located within this tiny circle I've drawn at this point. In the mountain about 10 miles airline west of the city. Mr. Solano are there any houses or vacation resort buildings around there. Let me think. There is one small large hidden in a strip of woods and overlooking the valley below. That must be the place John. What do you wish me to do now senior Phillips. You have authority to arrest anyone operating an unlicensed radio transmitter. That is right. Rafael Corinto is missing and if he was abducted whether by German agents or anyone else. That is a crime. Yes and time is precious. They may decide to move the transmitter again any moment. And our work would have to be done over again. Then we shall leave immediately. Pablo. We are capitano. We have to leave in five minutes. Rene. Yes. Is the transmitter dismantled and ready to go. In a few more minutes. Good. I don't understand why we are moving only just established ourselves here. Can't take the chance of having our position located. But moving so often is a risk. Let me handle things please. Very well. What shall we do with your friend. I'm seeing him now. Let me know when the transmitter's in the car. All right. How are you Rafael. What do you want. Just come in to say goodbye. Don't talk to me. Darling. No pouting please. Leave me alone. That sounds like the voice of frustrated love. It's the voice of something that you wouldn't understand. You've made me betray the friends of my country. A Nazi would not understand that. Oh Rafael you are so delightful. I really hate to leave you. Please go away. Not until I've made our parting final. Sorry Rafael. The cars are ready for us. Oh thank you Brenner. It's a lovely day for a drive. The night's portrayal of your FBI's efforts to protect American security will reopen in just a moment. Meanwhile let's consider two qualities which have been fundamental to American security since our nation's birth. Thrift and self-reliance. This week at the Equitable Society we were talking of a young Virginian who landed his first important job when he was only 16 years old. In the year 1748 he became a surveyor in the backwoods of his native states. Within one year he'd saved enough money to purchase 456 acres of land. The name of this thrifty self-reliant young man was of course George Washington. And from his day to ours good Americans have followed his example. And their thrift and self-reliance have helped America grow from 13 all colonies to the most powerful and productive country on the face of the earth. For the last 86 years of that period of national growth millions of Americans who agree with Washington that thrifts and self-reliance are good qualities have joined the Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States. Yes every policy we write in the Equitable Society is someone's declaration of independence. By taking out that policy of his own free will its owner declares that he believes in personal independence, believes in taking care of himself. He declares that he doesn't want to be coddled or regimented, that he's not interested in paternalism or handouts. And here and now let me say that we of the Equitable Life Assurance Society of the United States consider ourselves privileged to be associated with men and women who feel and act that way. We're proud that this week and every week for 86 years the Equitable Society has been building security for you, your home and your country. And now back to the FBI file the Pan American Patriot. Agents of an enemy country differ from the average professional criminal in their objectives only. Both employ the same general methods in achieving them. Treachery, cunning, deception, surprise, violence and both leave traces of their crime. Traces which eventually make a trail leading the forces of justice to them. It was barely ten minutes after the girl Vera, the leader of the ring of German agents in the South American capital, shot Raphael Carinto, that FBI agents Phillips and Douglas accompanied by the director of national police and a force of men arrived at the mountain lodge. They have now just entered the deserted quarters. Well they've cleared out of here alright Mr. Solano. By all the science in your Phillips they seem to have left in a hurry. Ordinarily that would indicate they'd received a tip that we were coming. Well there was no time for that. I know. I guess they simply just decided to move again and unfortunately for us they timed it right. But Carinto, what did they do with him Mr. Yes Dan. In here. Look. That answers what they did with Carinto Mr. Solano. It was the work of an automatic Jim. I just picked up this empty cartridge. Small caliber too. Looks like it might have been fired by one of those little pearl handle jobs that women use. Say look in this ashtray. It's a great stuff. It's lipstick, isn't it? Yes. It's not an American blend of tobacco anyway. English? No. That'd be straight Virginia tobacco. And this one has a Turkish or Egyptian order. We can have it analyzed in the laboratory. Yes Miss Cartridge too. And the bullet in Carinto's body. Well I guess there's nothing more to be done here. Then I shall have the men take care of Carinto's body and we'll return to headquarters at once. Well and if the police should have determined the other location of our transmitter they will find Carinto's body. What of it? If the body won't tell them where we're going. But that is murder for them and the police may start a general roundup before suspected German agents. Is the risk of our job too great for you Brenna? Is this not bad? Perhaps you would like me to send you back to Germany to fight. What are your plans for them? Your orders are to set up the transmitter when we've arrived at the new location. Yes. I'm returning to the city to the hotel Esplanade tonight. You are to report to me there at noon tomorrow. Very well. Carinto has helped us to achieve one objective. Now we must move on to another. I must make a new contact Brenna. I wonder what you'll be like. Stan? Oh hello Jim. Get the ballistic report from Solano's office yet? Yeah, I just phoned it over. Twenty-five caliber automatic. American make. And I think I've got a lead on the girl who fired it. What? I've been tracking down the source of that Egyptian cigarette. Only one tobacco shop in the city imports them and he has only two customers for them. Well, one customer is an attaché of the British Embassy who spent some years in Cairo. That eliminates that one. And the other is an attractive young girl, a Miss Vera Morgan. Who's she? The tobacconists think she might be American or English. But I'm going to find out if she's German. How? She lives at the Hotel Esplanade. Oh. You think I'll look all right in swimming trunks, Stan? What do you mean? According to the assistant manager of the hotel, Miss Morgan usually takes a dip in the hotel pool every afternoon about four o'clock. And it's a quarter of four now. So long, Stan. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not. I planned it this way. I beg your pardon. I misjudged your last two dives and you didn't bob into me. Oh. So you deliberately plotted this collision. Do you mind? No. Well, shall we sit down here and talk or isn't that being done in 20 feet of water? Um, ratio to the size. Right. Oh. No good. It was a tie. Let me. I help you up. No thanks. I can make it. Now, uh, what time are we having dinner this evening? Did you say your name was Swift? No, it's Jim Phillips. Who are you? Don't tell me you haven't already found out. I'd rather hear you say it. All right. Jim Phillips. Who are you? Don't tell me you haven't already found out. I'd rather hear you say it. All right. Born in Connecticut, my parents moved to Paris when I was four to South America when I was 18.  My father's in France and can't get home. Now, how did your biography go? Born in Cleveland, went to engineering school. Came the war and here I am working in South America and looking into a pair of the most exciting blue-gray eyes in the world. And how am I doing? An engineer. How fascinating. If I'd been a man, that's what I would have been. Personally, I'm glad you turned out this way. Working in the mines down there? No, I'm doing a little stuff for Uncle Sam. They call it hush-hush, you know? Oh, sorry. You haven't answered my question. What time are we having dinner? Why don't you call for me about 8.30? It's a date. Well, I guess I just wasn't cut out for the job of tackling a matter Harry's tan. Must be pleasant work, though. It's two weeks I've been working on that girl now. Lunching, swimming, and dining and dancing and driving. I haven't tripped her up once. How about you? What do you mean?  What's she done about that? Questioning you, I mean. She's been pretty neat about it. Nothing obvious enough to incriminate herself yet. Well, maybe I've got some incriminating information. What? Solano's office called me just before you walked in. Oh? They found out where Corinto was the night he was abducted. Yeah? Where? Casa Managua. And he went there with Vera Morgan. And that was the last time Corinto was seen alive. Maybe we ought to go over there tonight and have a little look around and see what's what. Or have you got a date? Tentatively, but... Oh, excuse me. Hello? Oh, hello. Oh, hello, Vera. Yes. Why? Why yes, of course. I'd love to you know that. Where? Where? Yes. Yes, I'll join you there. Bye. Well, I've got a date now, Stan. She's giving a little dinner party for me tonight at the Casa Managua. You danced beautifully, Jim. Thanks for letting me hold you in my arms again, darling. I wanted to get away from those stuffy people. I know. Jim. Yes, dear? I'd like to go out on the terrace and get some fresh air. Wonderful idea. Let's go. After you, dear. Thank you. May I have a cigarette? Here you are. Thanks.  Do you know the lines? Yon rising moon that looks for us again. How oft hereafter will she wax and wane? How oft hereafter rising look for us through this same garden and for one in vain? You see, Jim, I do have my serious side. And I have my serious side, too, darling. Jim, look. Look out. Don't worry. We already have. What? What's going on? I'm afraid that means you do, Vera. What do you mean? We searched your suite, senorita, after you left to come here tonight. We found the pistol with which you killed Rafael Corinto. You will come with us now. Jim, what is all this? Well, then... It's like I said a moment ago. I, too, have my serious side. As a special agent of the FBI. Vera Morgan and her Nazi accomplice were tried and convicted by the local authorities for the murder of Rafael Corinto. You have just heard, for the first time, a page from your FBI's secret war diary of foreign operations. While your FBI humanly takes pride in the success of its work against enemy agents abroad as well as at home during the war, this story was presented solely for the purpose of reporting to those whom the FBI serves. 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from San Jose in the heart of Silicon Valley. It's theCUBE covering Big Data SV 2016. Now your host, John Purrier and George Gilbert. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here live in Silicon Valley for day three of wall-to-wall coverage of Big Data Week, which comprises of two events, Big Data SV, our event, the theCUBE event, and also Strata Hadoop, the big tent event across the street, and we are here live, theCUBE extracting the signal from the noise. I'm John Purrier with my co-host, George Gilbert, analyst at wikibond.com on Big Data. Our next guest is Scott Nowes, the CTO of OrtonWorks, and we're gonna be in Dublin in two weeks for Hadoop Summit. Scott, welcome back to theCUBE. Good to see you. Good to be here, thanks. So, you guys in Cloudera, obviously the pioneers, and you got MapR in the mix too, the big three distributions. And the center, Hadoop World, now called Strata Hadoop, and of course we call it Big Data SV. The ecosystem is certainly maturing in a big way. We've seen the big theme here about the ecosystem around Hadoop and how the expansion of analytics and with Cloud and with Spark, the pressure to have solutions, real applications with machine learning underneath and tooling and apps are still the focus, and that's still a priority for everybody, and the conversation around Hadoop is, Hadoop is relevant, and but some people are saying Hadoop is not as big given all the other things going on, and that Spark has taken the lead in the front end, and you got the cloud underneath. How do you respond to that? Because no one's saying Hadoop is dead, okay? They're saying Hadoop is gonna be a piece of a bigger ecosystem, and that seems to be some of the stories there. I know you guys have now an emerging products group that are doing some very agile development, and you have your core data platform. The good news is Yarn's still in the center of all the action. How do you guys make sense of this? Because you gotta be faster, you gotta adapt with the ecosystem, the pressure for digital transformation. What's your take on this narrative that's kind of, there's some noise in there, what's the reality, what's the real story going on? The way I see it is that we've really reached a tipping point as it relates to Hadoop and the ecosystem, and that has a couple of implications. First, I think with the expanding volume and variety of data, and I actually call it variety square because you think about all of the new IOT use cases that are out there, and mobile use cases where not only is the data variable, but it's variable variable because end user, you and I can change the data, and the consumer of the data and the applications that consume the data aren't ever gonna know about that. So requiring just a whole new way of looking at tool sets, a whole new way of developing those tool sets and deploying them, so it's really gotten to a point where it's more about a platform conversation than it is about this tool or that tool or the other tool. I think when you combine the- But there are a lot of tools. And there are a lot of tools, so there are a couple of important things that go on with respect to that. I think to be successful, number one, it's really important to be able to bring analytic tools to the data and not have to move the data to the tools. When you think about not for money, but just efficiency costs, data movement is very expensive. Bandwidth is cheap, but moving the data, keeping track of where the data went, all that kind of stuff can be very difficult. So being able to collect and land the data easily and bring different analytic engines together for those analyses is kind of where it's at. It's become a platform. And I think in many analytic environments, what I'm seeing and hearing in the industry, certainly at the show today, we've moved from the what the heck is Hadoop to, gee, do I need a Hadoop? To where does Hadoop fit? To Hadoop's kind of the center of my analytics universe. And it's got that critical mass at this point where there's just so much data and there's so much happening there that it's become a platform. That progression you mentioned, I was certainly over the course of 10 years and the past five in particular has accelerated that kind of life cycle of what Hadoop has evolved. But I want to take that point about Hadoop being essential because this has come up. There are significantly big costs involved in managing, say, a data warehouse or some other model-based platform for stuff that you guys call perishable data. So for instance, if I have IoT data coming in, I might not want to have to have a big data warehouse just to deal with stuff I need to refine through with Hadoop. So in that case, Hadoop is critical. It's actually the de facto standard and requirement. When you think about the process of how you need to consume those perishable insights, you don't have time to go through a traditional process and use traditional tools. Traditional process and tools is find a data source, define the requirements, define some ETL, go land the data, then build an application. So you go through that cycle, you've missed the opportunity, right? Plus, since the data are variable and changing constantly, that would invalidate all of the first three steps of that process. So you need to think about things backwards, land the data, use the data to actually determine the requirements, find those requirements, and then build the analytics from it. So the narrative you was talking about, Hadoop, so just kind of put that just to close that loop there is and kind of hear what you're saying and kind of tying it together is the platforms are hard, but the audience out there is getting confused between what a tool is and a platform. So if you got a zillion tools, it depends on what your view of the elephant is in the middle of the room, which is I'm a tool guy and I think I'm a platform, of course I may think something differently, but ultimately the zillion tools, that's a marketplace. The platform underneath powers the tool. In some cases, people might have ML libraries underneath and whatnot, that's not really a platform, that's just a little bit of a platform, but it still has to tie into a broader platform. Is that right? Absolutely, and when you think about that center of gravity shift where this Hadoop ecosystem, this Hadoop platform, and I'm talking, when I talk about the Hadoop platform, I'm really talking about data in motion and data at rest, which is of course how we positioned Orton Works last fall, there's an expectation and a requirement for common and consistent security, common and consistent data governance, common and consistent workload management, operations management, all of those things that come with that actually make the whole thing valuable and sustainable in the long term, into which then you've got that platform, can I plug in those new agile, closely developed tools and have them just perform and behave as part of the platform and inherit all of the security and governance and operational aspects. So let's talk about that because I think this is an interesting addition to the Horten Works plan, which is following Horten Works for many, many years since you started, you see, I've seen the evolution. When you talk about data in flight that really speaks to a whole nother value purpose and you have a plot prop here, I noticed, but I think and I see the IoT word there. You talk about really IoT or an edge type device, it could be sensor data, humans, what not, really high volume data in motion, data in flight. That's a different paradigm than traditional. Yeah, I think there are two things that, the first is it's a new paradigm as it relates to how do I manage this IoT opportunity, right? It creates some new opportunities that get solved and this is why we got into the data in motion business with the HDF. And the notion is, first off, that you've got sensors and devices outside of your firewall. So you've got this jagged edge of security and a different kind of perimeter to go manage. That's an entirely new problem or opportunity. The second thing is in traditional, even traditional streaming, which is data in motion, but kind of traditional streaming or ETL kinds of technologies, it tends to be a bunch of data moving from one place to another place, right? In an IoT world, it could be point to point, bi-directional, it could be sensors talking to each other and being able to manage that kind of a data flow is a significantly new issue. And as part of that, managing the bandwidth in collecting that data, because it's no longer fiber optics that you bought from your data center to your branch, you may be going over cellular networks or satellite networks that have different costs and different reliabilities, being able to hold all that together. And then finally, after you've secured it and you've managed the workflow, being able to guarantee that chain of custody or the provenance of the data so that you know that when you're taking action on that information that you can trace it back and that it's real and valid. So you wrap that together and that's a platform opportunity as well, which has become HDF. We call combining that with the traditional Hadoop platform, HDP kind of connected data platforms. Now, why is that important? It's important because it really enables a new class of modern data applications that we think are gonna be game changing for business because if you think about data at rest and the analytics created from data at rest, really great. I can build a model, I can understand what happened, I can use my understanding of what happened to build models to try to predict what will happen and make decisions of my business. Can I though, in real time apply those same models to data in motion as they're streaming through this network of communicating devices? And the answer is yes, and I can apply those models in real time to actually take action in real time. Keying off that. So you build the models with historical and rich context, then you apply them to data in motion, meaning the real time stuff, the perishable insights. But you wanna drive a decision. How do you do that? Where does that capability come from? Is that a traditional transactional database or what is that decision? What's the engine of it? The way I would look at it is it can be any kind of application that application can be driven from, sure it could be driven from an EW, it could be driven from an application that exists on my mobile device anywhere in between. I think it's really important to think about the world as containerized applications that can interact with these data streams. And so when I talk about modern data application, there are some architectural considerations, but there are also some architectural dependencies and certainly from a platform perspective, those dependencies are having access not only to a broad, rich array of data for model building, but the ability then also to execute against data that are streaming. And this is a fundamentally new thing because today when they're separate, you can build the model and then you create a rule and you apply the rules to the streams. But as you apply those rules to the streams, you change the behavior of what customers, what consumers, what they do, which can actually impact the model. So being able to have that real-time interaction is where there's some really big differentiation in combining the platforms. Do you need to own the sort of lifecycle of all those components? If you generate the model from the rich historical view, you apply it against the real-time data that's coming in. But that, as you say, it's sort of like as you apply it and you're gonna change the behavior of, let's say, the people if it's outward-facing. But as the new data land from the new transactions into the platform, those models can continually rebuild in a cycle and cycle back that decision again to the streams, right? So it's like a feedback loop in a thermostat system. Okay, so from an architectural standpoint, what do you guys talk to customers about? Because your customers ultimately what the end game is because you have customers that work with buy Hortonworks support and use the free open source. You have multiple business model constituents, but at the end of the day, there's apps coming out of it, there's something going on with the data. What do you look at as the key decision point for Hortonworks? As you look at the architecture, as you have all this new evolving dynamics, data in motion in flight, and you got the core data platform, and you got the push with Spark, and you got the cloud power underneath. The pressure at the end of the game is coming from digital transformation. People need more apps faster.  We see that not stopping for sure, but the pressure to get the digital transformation stuff out the door is what everyone's focused on. Yeah, I think a big thing that we'll lead with, with new prospects is here are the use cases and the business opportunities that we can go solve with this technology stack. And that is really appealing, right? Because to your point, and everybody's seeing it, right? There's all of this data coming from all different directions. It can be very hard to consume, it can be very hard to understand and manage, especially considering the new paradigm of how the data are created and how they vary so dramatically combined with budgetary pressure that everyone has in their business. So we'll open up with, here's how we can help you down this transformation. Oh, by the way, if you look at use case one, use case two, use case three, use case four, they all have some commonality in terms of platform. So here's how we want to look at the broader data architecture so that not only we can go build out the use case that you're thinking about, but we're ready when you're ready to go build out the next three. And we're also ready to future-proof your business in terms of how we see data growing as we enter into the IOAT space. And just, I know George got a question, can you see him getting ready to go in there? But I wanna just bring that point about future-proofing and also being use case-driven. A lot of integration now comes to the tables. Another key conversation that's come up on theCUBE here this year. Again, it's always kind of in, but more than ever you're hearing about integration. Coexistence, retrofit, these are the trending words if I did a tag cloud on theCUBE. It's Hadoop, retrofit, coexistence, integration. That's kind of that means this progression going on in the technology. Because when you get to the integration conversation that means there's real stakes on the table that need to be addressed. Yeah, I mean, when we talk about future-proofing, I think there are a couple of aspects to it, right? One is having the right technology stack and tools and all those kinds of things. But the key thing there, you know, from now for the next five, 10, 15 years, as far as my crystal ball is good, right? I think real future-proofing means that you've got an ecosystem of coexisting and co-resident technologies that are integrated and that are flexible enough so that as new analytics come along or as you change your business model, you can change your mind without ripping it all out and starting over. And that's really about future-proofing. So it's less, you know, where we were in the 80s and 90s of centralized systems. Take a little case and leverage out of it, basically. Yeah, it's not everything's coming into a centralized system anymore, but it's a recognition that there is going to be an ecosystem and success and future-proofing in an ecosystem means seamless integration, seamless operational capability, and the ability, frankly, to change your mind. The ecosystem is a very key word. Again, community drives everything. This is now community-driven. We talk about open community and it's open community as it relates to the Apache Software Foundation and development of software, but also open community as it relates to the ecosystem of partners and how they share and integrate and interact. And the role of corporate enterprises in this ecosystem is just off the charts.  Yes. So let's come back to the apps because I think everyone agrees that you've helped educate Cladera, MapR, you know, what is this data, new data platform. So, but what seems to be less clear is where are we gonna get the applications from? What's the scope of an app? Is it, you know, telco churn? Is it something perhaps big like cybersecurity? And, you know, that seems a little fuzzy in terms of because we haven't really had broad end-to-end cybersecurity apps. So where do they come from? What do they look like? Who delivers them? I think they can be delivered from anywhere. They can be delivered from any vendor that participates in the ecosystem. So, and even we can help, you know, co-invest at times potentially in helping to drive that application development. Where they're really gonna come from is they're gonna come from business use cases, business pain points and competition in the marketplace. That's what drives everything that we do, right? Analytics are important, especially in a world that's highly competitive where an analytic differentiation, they can maybe change the result by one percentage point where that's significant, right? In highly competitive industries. Certainly, moving the dial in cybersecurity, there's a lot of interest there. There's a lot of community backing behind finding different kinds of solutions. Having the capability to store almost infinite amounts of log data and with HDF having the ability to transmit and transfer and apply models to that. In real time, I think there's an opportunity for that kind of application. So I think you'll see a number of horizontal applications that are applicable across any industry where there's kind of a common problem. And I think we're already starting to see some vertical applications in vertical spaces, whether it be fraud detection in financial services, whether it be fraud detection and prevention in financial services, whether it be integrated healthcare, whether it be highway safety, even autonomous cars. You can think about our ultimately an integrated data application. Let me ask one. So it sounds like some of these are traditional ISVs and maybe some of them are SIs that become ISVs. Some were straddle, but if we have... And even customers themselves. We want to make the tooling easy enough that application development is not constrained to application developers specifically. I think there will be a whole range of different ISVs and folks are creating these apps. Obviously in the show floor, we see a number of folks showing up with some of these things. I think also the goal is to actually make it easy enough that it could be developed pretty much by anyone. Let's talk about now where the platform lives. Because some of our analysts, David Floyer, who's our sort of master of infrastructure, has looked at edge computing and talked about how with IoT we can't bring everything back to the cloud. And there are gonna be things that live at the edge that are occasionally connected. Do we need a data platform for some of these things like as an example might be a submarine or a truck or something that's not got a full high band with connection back to the center, but that's more than just a collection of a small number of sensors? Sure. I mean this is one of the things that we recognize with HDF and the technology we're delivering today is that some processing is gonna exist at the edge, some processing is gonna exist at the core and sometimes even midway along the way there may be tiers, right? I may have multiple sensors that report into an aggregator sensor that reports into another thing and so on. The notion here is that the topologies may be very deep and sometimes very complex. So it's important to build out a tooling that enables that flexibility for deployment and delivery. So it's your point. Simple decisions that can be made at the edge, great. Let me push that logic out to the edge from whatever analytic I've run and let it run there and then manage by exceptions as a way to optimize the bandwidth and the data communication. And maybe after I see a certain amount of summary information coming in from the edge, I look at that and say, wow, it changes needed. Let me go get some more detail which may still be stored at the edge up to whatever capacity is available there. Pull that in, run the analytic and actually send some information back that retools how those sensors actually behave. And that's where I get into the notion of point to point bi-directional communication being extremely important and being able to enable that kind of self-healing kind of network and application. Scott, I want to get your thoughts in the last couple seconds here of the segment is your thoughts on this year and looking forward to this year's show and looking forward to Dublin without kind of revealing all the cards for what you guys got going on in store. Are we seeing enough machine learning? Are we seeing enough tech? Are we seeing more outcomes? Are you happy with what's happening in the industry right now? Things that caused you to pause? Are there things that are popping up that are surprising? What's your general thoughts about the state of the market right now? You know, like I said at the very beginning, I definitely think that we've moved from kind of the origins to the curiosity to the more mainstream to the tipping point. I think that's a very important trend. And while that's happened, I think one of the things that we've collectively been able to do as a community and an industry is actually accelerate the rate of pace of change. And I think that's a first in technology because normally, as human beings, we mature, things slow down. As technology matures, it gets a little bit slower, more robust. I think the amazing thing that we've been able to pull off, which is going to continue to drive this market, is we've actually accelerated the rate of pace of change while doing all of that maturity along the way. Okay, great. A lot of stuff going on. The markets grow and it's big. Peter Burris yesterday presented, the market is just exploding and no one really has that 10% yet. So huge opportunity. You guys are enabling that at OrtonWorks. Thanks for sharing your insight. Looking forward to seeing you in Dublin on the 14th week of the, in two weeks, the Cube will be frothy with Guinness and Hadoop. It'll be drinking the data full in Ireland. Looking forward to being in Ireland for Hadoop Summit. Watch the Cube in Dublin in two weeks. We have more coverage coming up here live in Silicon Valley for day three of Cube coverage of Big Data Week, which is Big Data SV and strategy. We'll be right back.


Good morning, everybody. I'm Hatsumi Ino from Fujitsu. Today, I'm going to show you a new formation for H4Anybody. Thank you for my introduction by the question about me. So a little bit I add that I have been dedicated to the US for a long time since my DNA is in the optical businesses. And I'm a little bit sleepy because I have been glued to the World Cup recently. I enjoy it. Thank you. So now H4Anybody is our common essential target to the digitalization. As you know, its services are very complicated and expensive and not easy for now. We need to get rid of this hurdle. So we are working on SIP. This is the strategic innovation program at the cabinet office, not only with students from Litz-Mirkan University and Fujitsu, but also with the globally utilizing the power of the open community. That's the new formation, I say. So now let's take a quick look at the motivation behind each. SIP is challenging to eliminate the technical and cost gap for the H service deployment, especially for the earlier of the small and medium-based businesses. That is the core of digitalization. However, it is not accelerated because the business model is not established yet. So it has to be. That's motivation by SIP. Litz-Mirkan University is promoting the research and development of the robotics to compensate for the decline in workforce in Japan. So however, in order to maximize the effect of robotics, it is essential to be connected with the cloud and the application, especially in the both direction of the data collection and the actuation. OK. Robotics parts and the users who are not familiar with H just simply needs H services. That's motivation. How about Fujitsu? As I see debended, Fujitsu believes these challenges must be resolved by technologies. As you can see in this picture, H services consist of the variety technology in the right side and the variety of the roles, the left side, and the businesses up side. And they interact to each other. That's tough and complex. So Fujitsu created the concept of one-stop flat home. That flat home aims to remove the issues listed here in the back. And they try to enable anyone, everybody, realize and operate the H services regardless of their experiment or expertise. I will tell further in the booth, so please stop by. However, this is not enough to try. So we still need openness, reference model, place to be tested, bigger voices, et cetera. So that's where LFH comes in. LFH also has the affinity for H for anybody. I believe adding the power and the venue of community to typical, like side of the collaboration, private, academic, I'm sorry, public, private, and academic to increase and generate new value and mutual feedbacks and speed. That's my message. So finally, let me introduce the Fujitsu Heart, sorry, three blueprints in the LFH, a client. In addition, we can show you the demonstration of the usage scenario of the platform and robotics today, tomorrow. So please stop by and let's talk further. That's all from me. Thank you very much.