Family Theater presents James Whitmore and Gene Raymond. Work in Cooperation with Family Theater presents James Whitmore and Adam Waswell from San Antoine. And now to introduce the drama, here is your host, Gene. Family Theater exists to bring to every listener's attention a practice that must become an integral part of our daily lives if we are to find peace for ourselves, build peace for our families, and win peace for the world. Family Theater sponsors the greatest commodity civilization has provided for the soul of man, his contact with God. Family Theater urges you to pray, pray together as a family. Family Theater takes great pleasure in presenting Man was El from San Antoine, starring James Whitmore as Blake. The major leagues are beginning to worry about television again. It's nice to know, but it's certainly not news. Say, is anything of that second night late yet, Jimmy? Not a line. Oh, it should have been an hour ago. It must be some big deal. Well, what about it, news editor? I've got to give a 15-minute newscast in 51 minutes. 51 minutes. Well, I'll write a couple of lines and you can ad-lib around them. Some of that stuff, but the nature figures, how about that? Here's a good one, incidentally. Date Line Hollywood. Marjorie Du Bois reported to be feeling much better today as she recovers from a strained back which was sustained yesterday at Point Morrow, California. The beautiful actress who was currently appearing. Blah, blah, same old stuff. Don't tell me. The scene called for her to hang from a cliff and some rock gave away. She was saved in the last minute by an aging Indian or a quick-thinking cameraman. No, as a matter of fact, it was wild horses and she was saved by a lighting technician. Yeah, that's bunk. Jared's bunk, but it's exciting and that's what the public wants. What's this? You've got new typewriter now. That's what the people want? I hope so. Great, I'll use it. Over my dead body, you put this on the air and I won't be able to get a copyright.  I'm a cell from San Antoine.  Well, the most interesting part of it anyhow. It's around an incident in the last war. Why'd you wait this long to write it? Well, Jim, it's like your nature figure story. It might be true, but... But it doesn't sound true. That's about it. That's why I'm writing it as fiction. Well, come on, let's hear it. What about your newscast? I'll use the same copy I used on the last one. Change a few adjectives. No, don't get caught on them. What about your story? Oh, yeah. Do you want me to read it to you? Whatever you like. All right, brother, I'll tell it to you. I might think of something I forgot to put in and it'll help me a little with the revision. Go ahead. Well, to begin with, I was a sergeant with a machine gun crew, and one day four of us got lost. Hopelessly, miserably, and very unmilitarily lost in a frog-shrotted battlefield in France. Before that fog came in, we'd been advancing through the hedge rows, and going on that particular day had been pretty easy, because the enemy had pulled back to new positions. But with that fog, everything changed. Suddenly, we ran out of hedge rows and into a forest, and, brother, what a forest that was.  Huh? Yeah. Nah, I mean it. Look at the size. He's been carrying an heavy tripod for three hours.  And you two boys with that heavy ammo were rightful, strudging along, never complaining.  So why should I get better when all I got to do was carry this little old measly 12-ton, 30-caliber machine gun? Hey, maybe we ought to pull in and wait for the fog. That's a lot of time. And it might be a good idea to mount the gun. Oh, mount the gun? That is merely the sergeant's way of saying he needs sure if we're behind the enemy lines. Well, it's possible. I can't read my map without being able to see landmarks. Can I? Well, we know it sounded like it's that thing. It digs into my shoulder, my shoulder digs into my neck. And you dig into whatever's close. Hey, no kidding, Sarge. Really might be behind the lines, huh? Maybe we ought to hold a conversation down to a nice polite roar. Good idea? Good idea. Oh, cool. We better dig in and eat before we think about sleep, all right? Maybe behind the lines. Who can sleep? Well, here's my spade. This'll be my 26-fox hole. I'm thinking seriously of going back and collecting all the foxholes I ever dug. Use them to store souvenirs. Tell you there's somebody out there. I heard them. Relax, will you, Benny? Yeah, I suppose there was somebody out there. The four of us ain't no army, you know. Don't go ask them for no trouble. What are we supposed to do? Sit around waiting for them to start taking pot chats at us? In this fog, they can't see us any better than we can see them. There. Did you hear that? I told you there was somebody out there. Get the dirt. Benny, slide me your M1. Here, take it. Tell them to come out. Yeah, yeah. Tell them there's a million of us. All right, quiet, you guys.  Yeah, government issues. But what government? Well, if there are not guys, they know the password. Who goes up there? Password. Hank, what's today's password? I don't know. What's some about bridges? I don't hear anybody answering. London Bridge, isn't it? Yeah. Give the password. I don't like this. Let's not shoot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get on the car. I'll tell you when.  We didn't remember the password either. Well, whoever it is, they all speak English. Any of you guys know any German? A little French dude? Yeah, try it. Tell them there's a million of us.   Yeah, try not to sound so scared. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, go ahead. The ribbons tell them we've come to ribbons. Okay, you guys, not to get ready on the gun. It might be a trick.  Oh, brother, will you look at that? Well, I'm looking at it, but I don't believe it, baby. Oh, baby, oh, baby. They'll never believe this back home. What a doll. What a doll.  Remember, you were the guy who wanted to fill woods with bullets, cut them to ribbons. Oh, I changed my mind. Uh, aren't these boo, ma'am, Zell? Hey, Will, what did I say? Are you going to shoot me?  She wants to know if you're going to shoot it. If you're not, I think she might like to put her hands down. She thinks we'd shoot her? Holy cow. Um, this a boo man down, ma'am, Zell.  Stay away, uh, Benny. You want to scare her away? You are Americans? No. We are Americans, yes. Any of you guys got any rations left? For mine, I got everything. Well, give them to me. She looks hungry. Here, miss, want some food? Food, uh... My name's Janine. Thank you. I thought you were the boss still. Why have you taken so long to get here? Oh, this is very good. Kay rations? She thinks it's good. She must be hungry. Okay, well, toss me that canteen. You want some water, miss, uh, Janine? Water? Yeah. Water. Water. Thank you. And for after dinner, I got a cigarette for you. Oh, you are all so kind. Won't you sit there? Here, let me spread this coat for you. Oh, but it will get so dirty. Oh, it's all right. It's a sergeant's coat. Oh. Yeah, it's all right. You must be very brave, so far behind the lines. What did she say? I couldn't make that one out. She said we must be very brave to be so far behind the lines. Oh, yeah, yeah. Very brave. I think I'm going to fight. Say, Janine, uh, how far behind the lines are we? That is a very good question. You don't know? That is very funny. Yeah, so what's so funny? Search me. I thought you were brave, but you are not brave. You are lost. Well, it's possible to be both. I'm getting back to the question just how far ahead of the rest of the army are we? Oh, 10, maybe 12 kilometers. Not much more. What's a kilometer? It's about a thousand meters still. Holy mackerel. So how much is a meter? About a foot and a half, maybe? 12,000 foot and a half. Look, we got to get back. Miss Janine, could you tell us how to get back to the lines? Oh, monsieur, it would be very dangerous for you to try to do it tonight. Better you wait until morning. The American army will come up to meet you. They are advancing, no? They are advancing, yes. Well, then tonight you spend in my father's house. How did you hear that? Sleep and a half. No, no, no, no, no. I don't think that would be such a... Oh, come on, sir. Gee, 12,000 foot and a half. Be safer than me and caught outside by some German patrol. Patrol? We're far enough behind the lines to be caught by the Jerry replacements going up to the front. He's right, monsieur Sarge. Yeah, yeah, come on, Sarge. All right. All right, pick up your gear. Lead the way, lady.  I mean, helping us? After all, this is still German territory. No, no, monsieur. It is not much chance. The Americans will be here tomorrow. Yeah, well, I hope so. But suppose you're caught. Then we will all meet in Evan and have a big celebration. But we will not be caught, sergeant. Yeah, say, uh, call me Blake, will you? Blake? Yeah. Blake. Blake. He's a very pretty name. It is a very lovely name. Wouldn't you say Blake is a pretty name, Ben? Will? Hmm, yes, grumpy. Hey, uh, ma'am, cell, uh, what do you think of Benjamin? All right, all right. Close it up, close it up. Kind of a misterful name. Wait, there is an... How you say it? What? Water here. Yeah, she learns fast. Yeah, hold it, hold it. Oh, we got an irrigation ditch to get over. Well, my foot's lagging, sergeants. Walk on through. Oh, no, no. Better you jump. All right, so we jump. Sure. All right, give me your hands. I'll help you. You'll, monsieur Blake. All right. Over you come. You got a broken leg. Come on. I'm out of cannon. Uh, time walking through. My feet are hot in here.  Ben, come on. Let's get them. Oh, you should have trapped it. You might have been drowned. I forgot to. Are you all right? Oh, no. You did not hurt yourself. He's all right. Be as good as no. Oh. I should have tell you it is deep, no? Yes. It's better that he should find this way, ma'am. Now he'll never forget it. How would you like a hot in the snoot? All right, all right. Come on. I'll take the gun. Ben, you carry the tripod. It might be lighter, sergeant, if you poured the water out of it. He's not far to my father's house now. Just over to him, near the town. He has been waiting for the Americans for a long time. Let's go. I'm going to be tickled at that. Let's see him in a fireplace. Wait. We don't want to push you to a lot of trouble. Wait. It's not trouble at all. It is a privilege. Oh, that fire feels good. Boy, this is the life. Man, it feels pretty good, huh? Stop hogging. Will you move over a little? Well, will you give me a hand with the machine gun? We'll stick it over by the fire, dry some of the water out of it. We're really ought to police it up. No, ma'am. I will do it after a while. Come on. Move over, you guys. Good to see you. We have waited so long for you. I don't think you are coming. But it is no matter. Now you are here. Papa, this is Sergeant Blake and Corporal Henry and Privates Benny and William. I do not know their last name. I'm glad to meet you. My father, Alberto Marais. This is very nice of you, Mr. Damary. My house is your house, my friend. Jeanine, go with your brother. Kill the chickens. We have a big party to celebrate. Mr. Damary, you see, so we're now. In a sense, I have been planning this celebration for a long time. The chickens are old. They too have been waiting. But we make up for it with the wine, no? We make up for it with the wine, yes. Callum, we're not the whole army. It's still...  Why are you supposed to have fun? Come with me. I get to wine and wait my brother. I hope you're right, baby. I sure hope you're right. It's quite a party. I like parties like that. Everybody having a good clean time, singing songs. It isn't much fun. Everybody enjoying everybody else. Yvonne and Lucille were very good, yes? Yvonne Lucille. The chickens. Oh, yeah, very good. Is that what you call them? Yvonne Lucille. Papa had two great worries about him. He was afraid first that he might die from old age before the Americans came. Second? And second, he was afraid your Americans might come on Friday.  That is a good thing. Oh, look. Where? It's so strange to see lights on in second one. It is our town and it has been so dark for so long. Yeah. Hey, there seems to be a lot of activity down there, doesn't it? Yes. I don't know what it could be. That's it. The Germans are moving out. They must be pulling back all along the line. They are. I'm so happy. I think I could kiss the first American soldier. I think I almost joined the Navy. Oh. But, Blake, I know you for whom he's such a short time. So short a time? I don't think you're so happy. I don't think you're happy at all. Oh, but I am. You are not. I am too happy. Well, you don't show it. All right. You see? Well, not too well. You better explain it again. Blake, I think we go home. Yes? All right.  Watch to get excited a rooster. Rooster. You know, a heat chicken. All right. Hey, we're going to get that gun. Pull these stuff and get back to the line. Why wake up the whole house? Well, sorry. I was just going to say the big, weak one ought to be good and dry by now. Hey, Benny, come on. You grab the barrel. I'll get it out of the other end and we'll pull it away from the fire. Okay. Yes, sir. But there ain't a bit of waste you left on that thing. Come on. Oh, fella. Boy, that was the stupidest thing I ever saw. Were you with him?  Oh, who's wrong, Mr. Emery? I'm sorry, Hacker. Okay, kid. You got a handkerchief? Yeah. Gee, you're bleeding. Yeah. It's nothing. It's only a scratch. I'll wet it at the pump.  Oh, Ben and I tried to pick up the machine. It was a little hot, that's all. Gee, let me see, Sarge. Good. That looks like a bad burn. Let me get my aid kit. Anybody remember me? I'm the guy with a cut lip. Golly, Sarge. I will fix it for you. Hey, put some of this stuff on, Mr. Emery. It takes a soreness out. This will hurt a little more, Sherry. Hey, hey, Sarge! Sarge, you're coming in. I can see him off in the woods. Ben! Who's coming in? What are you talking about? The whole booming line. Us. We. The United States Army. Oh, yeah. You see? I tell you. Listen, honey, you got any old rags, grease? Old rags? Yeah, we got a clean-up of machine gun. Well, I'll have the kicker span out of the Army or what's waste promoters. Oh, no. We've been lost. It's bad enough for getting caught with a rusty suit. It's no use. They'll be here in a matter of minutes.   All right. Come on. Now, look. We'll set it up on the other side or he'll be got nothing to lose but ammo. This is very exciting. Look over there on that road. See through the trees. The road leading out of San Antonio. Where? I don't see anything. The bush. There are some left. Doesn't that look like a good target? I'll bet you that's the last enemy caravan to pull out. Shall I pour it on him? No, no, please. Wait till they have left the village. It won't have long to wait. There they go. Long range. Now, Sarge, now? Are they far enough? I'll get you then. I think so. Remember then, he aim height to compensate for the distance. I got you. Okay, then he pour it on. Boy, now try for that command. Yes. Just stop working. Maybe it jammed. Open a breach. Let's take a look. Now it looks kind of foopy going. A boiled up blasted rotten luck. It's frozen solid. What's wrong with that? Oh, brother. Come on. Give me a hand here. Uh-oh, Sergeant. Well, I think we got company. Yeah. Cheap. With three stars on it. What is it? It's a general. Put the charge here. I am, sir. Sergeant Blake Legler, sir. Aren't you a little ahead of the rest, sergeant? Yes, sir. What's the matter with your hands? Oh, it's nothing, sir.  What's the matter with your hands, sergeant? I burned them, sir. On the weapon? Lieutenant, inspect that weapon. Yes, sir. And you, corporal. What happened to your lip? Uh, well, it's like this, your one. I mean general, sir. Ah, hand-to-hand combat, eh? Don't much to say so, sir. They are very brave and good men, Mr. General. I'm sure they are, young lady. How long have you been here, sergeant? Uh, since last night, sir. The weapon is completely burned up, sir. I'd say from the look of it, it's seen almost continuous action. We expected heavy fighting here at Silent One. Do you happen to know why we didn't get it, sergeant? Yes, sir. The enemies pulled out, sir. You got here last night? Yes, sir. When did the enemy start to withdraw? Well, last night, sir, but you see this had nothing to do with it. Remarkable, remarkable. Huh? One machine-gun crew. Sergeant Blake. They are very brave men, Mr. General. Indeed they are, young lady. Lieutenant, five of these men back to the A station immediately. Yes, sir. But, uh, how about you, sir? I'll walk back. Oh, no. I'm going to get a first-hand account of this action from this young lady. It will be a pleasure, Mr. General. Come on, man. Give me a hand inside. Uh, just a minute, Hank. I mean corporal. Say, sir, may I have a word with the young lady before... Of course, sergeant. I understand these things. Yeah. Say, look, honey, I just want, uh... Yes, Blake? Well, look, I mean, look, we've known each other of pretty short time. I know that, but, well... Is that what you wanted to say? Yeah, only louder. Coming, sergeant.  Yes, sir. And about the general, honey, I don't... I will only tell him the truth. That's all I can do. The truth? Well, okay, I'll... I'll be back, honey, even if it takes me ten years at hard labor. This is William Marvel Miller. And for services above and beyond the call of duty for extreme valor and battle, and for selfless actions in the... All we'd hear was nonsense, you boys. Oh, sure, send her back, please. You can see what you mean about writing it as fiction. It might be a little embarrassing if everybody had to turn in all those medals. No, that's not exactly it. You see, Ben, it just sounds phony. It sounds like something a newsman just dreamed up to make copy. Sounds like something where the dreamers of this business, the ones we call a nature fakers. I don't know. I believe it. Oh, hi, baby. About ready to go, dear? Yeah, say, Jim, I don't think you've ever met my wife, have you? No, I never have. How do you do, Miss Legler? Jim Hardman, my wife. Janine Legler. So nice to meet you, Jim. You still believe it, Jim? Well, maybe you better write it as fiction, Blake. Yep, you better write it as fiction. Come on, honey. Let's go home. Gene Raymond again. The chances are you begin the day by reading the morning paper. And much as you reach for the news, if you're like nearly everyone else, you often wish you hadn't heard the latest. Science is expanding the universe of physical knowledge to terrifying proportions. At four or five global points, war can and may explode momentarily. Tragic, bewildered thousands are displaced from their homes. Prices appear to be rising to astronomical zones. The polio season will be over and the pneumonia season will take its place. And there's the chart, the chart telling you what to do if an atom bomb makes your city a target. Are you safe and sound any place at all? Most of us keep reading and wondering and worrying. If you're past 50, you're nostalgic for the old days of peace, plenty and certainty, but you may even wonder if such a time actually did exist. If you're young and healthy, you may see the panorama of your far horizon blurred by near hazards. How does a thoughtful person keep his points? By escapists, distractions from too much thinking, perhaps? By building a philosophy, perhaps? Only one thing is certain, as has been proved by those who understand or who are beginning to understand the providence of God. They know that it must be God's will that they live in the exact age into which they're born. By we were given life without asking for it, we'll be given the courage to meet life only by asking for it. Just as it's weak to evade reality, it's strong to meet it, meet it head on, and God must truly love those who meet it squarely. It's the poise to understand that every age has its own hazards. At what you might have died of in an earlier age, you are now saved from by a new medicine born of normal research, the research to meet the emergency of war. There is an equalization. The poise know that, and they know the seed of poise is true and stalwart faith, faith that humbly unites in prayer with God. This faith and the prayer keeps families together, keeps the nation safe, for the nation is safe when its families are rugged and solid. Remember, the family that prays together stays together.  The script was written by Robert U. O. Sullivan, with music composed and conducted by Harry Zimmerman, and was directed for Family Theater by Joseph F. Mansfield. This series of Family Theater broadcasts is made possible by the thousands of you who feel the need for this type of program, by the mutual network which responds to this need, and by the hundreds of stars of stage, green and radio who give so unselfishly of their time and talent to appear on our Family Theater stage.  This is Charles Arlington expressing the wish of Family Theater that the blessings of God may be upon you and your home. And inviting you to join us next week at the same time when Family Theater will present Jean Lockhart and Scotty Beckett in The Funny Man. Join us, won't you?


Welcome back to my channel guys. It's your girl Coco styles and on this channel We talk about beauty fashion lifestyle and styling as a tall girl guys So today I wanted to get into a few I guess you can say effortlessly cheek outfits that are tall girl friendly and that you are going to absolutely love and can actually achieve with minimal effort So let's get into it starting with outfit one. All right guys. So here's outfit one and These are some Zara shorts. These are actually really nice and great quality like trousers shorts And as a tall girl, I think these are a perfect length for us. They're not like super tight And they're not super short or super long like a cool-out shorts Um, I have on some black Zara slide. This is a Gucci trunk bag I got this from Sawgrass Mills a few years ago Man probably like three years ago and it's in great great condition the retail price of this bag I think was like 3,800 and I believe I got it for like 16 I believe But it's a really nice bag so for those of you girls who like Shoulder bags. I think this is a good length bag for tall girls now listen I'm gonna say it some Tall girls I see They wear bags that are just entirely too short for us It's just the reality of it. We cannot wear everything that all the other Girlies are wearing because we are tall so we have to find bags that have straps that we can actually adjust So that they can fit us properly if we decided to wear it over our shoulder or even cross body I don't think I would wear this cross body, but it does have Like two other hoops that I could actually bring it down and then for the girlies who do not like to wear Shoulder bags you can definitely wear it like this and keep it effortlessly chic And this is what I would wear if I wanted to go to like shopping or something And I was probably going to have brunch with someone and I wanted to be You know chic but yet very very comfortable the top is from coals It's an old top, but you can find any crop white button-up shirt Anywhere and very affordable white button-up shirts.  Um, I have on some simple Then amen jewelry Valerie earrings Fendi shades and keeping it very simple today guys. So this is outfit one All right guys, let's get into outfit number two Effortlessly chic tall girl friendly I have on the same shorts and this top is from theory. It's an old top Most of the items here are old guys and I believe I've said this a ton of times. I like to invest in pieces So I can have them for a really long time. I have on some sam not sam edamon stewart wiseman strappy I think they're called Bailey nude and these are the ones with the like block heel I can't do it's a lot of all the time guys. I'm gonna take my other black frames these are Balmain And I actually got these from Sawgrass as well I'm just gonna grab a black bag And this is what you call effortlessly chic tall girl edition And let me tell you guys the shorts. I love them a lot. They fit really nice These are a really great quality pair of shorts from zara I've said this before zara is like a hit or miss for tall girls And they actually hit it with these. I got these in two different colors And like I said, the top is from theory. It's an old top. I absolutely love it And this is a besachi bag Keeping it very chill guys eventually one day. I'm going to Have a ton of bags like black bags That I can wear because I wear this like all the time And I don't mind it because the strap again Is tall girl friendly As you guys can see where it hits I'm gonna say it again Sometimes some tall women will wear bags that are just entirely too small for us Okay, we have to make sure that the strap is long enough even though this doesn't have a adjustable strap It is still very long for us and Looks really good on us Even cross body. Let me show you guys really quick So even cross body this fits very well These bags any bag that has a chain Or a strap for tall women. So the bag should not Fall Here it should definitely fall a lot lower if you are a tall girl So I'm going to make it a conscious effort to Point certain things out that I know that some of us do that we shouldn't be doing So this is outfit two same as our shorts theory top Stuart white's men Bailey nude Shoes sandals strappy sandals and a black bag guys. So outfit number two effortlessly chic tall girl edition Here's outfit number three guys. I have on a Zara top. This is like brunch outfits as well But um, I wanted to use effortlessly chic because of the color combinations that I'm going to be using And if you really think about it, most people who think of chic They think of like neutral colors and things that can be worn like Every day and people always associate the color black and neutral with chic and like elevated So the pants are from Zara My Zara slides the bag is from a brand who's black owned. I'll come closer so you guys can see it It's a black owned brand by Tina co It's a teal color bag with tortoise shell at the top portion of the handle And I kept it really chill. These Zara pants are really old And these are very these are like a men's style. So they're not necessarily tall girl friendly Um, I may end up getting them cut I probably will to like shorts or like shorts trousers or something But these are like a men's style. They do have like a pleat in the front Not as deep as the other pants from favorite daughter Um, and I kept it real chill. So I would wear this to brunch with the girls honestly If it's early in the day Even if it's going into nighttime, I would wear it and just throw in a pair of maybe like I don't want to say kitten heels But a small heel maybe like a mule and keep it really really Still chic very comfortable and chic guys. So that's outfit three effortlessly chic for tall girls All right guys. So here is outfit number four. I kept it very Simple and I'm saying simple because I have on just a basic tank top from Eritia My Gucci Ophelia bag some Zara shorts my jimmy true Mules if you guys can see that Um, I have on my key glasses. Let's come a little closer These are some key glasses. I believe these are the sweetie the sweetie um collab And Eritia top I kept on the same accessories of course And hoping you guys can see everything This is the outfit. So these are the other shorts from Zara that I absolutely love They just fit really nice and Like I said, I believe I got a size I think a 12 or an extra one of the how I'm not sure how they have it Uh number but yeah And this is another effortlessly chic outfit Definitely brunch friendly guys for my tall girls. Um, the Eritia tops are not tall girl friendly However, this one does come down where I wanted it to hit Not super long. I didn't want it super long. So you can definitely give them a try When it comes to your tank tops, they are expensive for a tank top But I had this for about three years now and I just take it to my dry cleaners And that's it. It hasn't shrunk or anything like that. But definitely I would say Tall girl friendly, I guess Uh But oh, let me say this It's very thick. So sometimes it just like I don't know if you don't want like a waist trainer or anything like that It'll definitely like sink into your little rows But I don't care So this is the outfit number four Effortlessly chic as a tall girl All right guys. So here is outfit number Was that five? number five guys, so I Had the same top that I wore a few videos ago. This is a express bandeau top Um, it's it's not from the tall section. However, it does fit really well. I got a large I could have sized down, but you know your girl be trying to keep her her rolls intact I don't want anything pressing on it. The skirt is from mango This is an oversized um What is this? This is from Banana Republic This is a men's oversized shirt And I wanted to wear this bag again because it's a pop of color Black Zara slides and this is effortlessly chic for me as well because of the colors And it has like a mix of masculine and feminine because of the shirt But I definitely think this is considered effortlessly chic in my opinion So it's definitely tall girl friendly if you do not know where to buy slip skirts that will fit Your frame if you are tall Definitely check out mango Check out anthropologies They also have like nice midi ones and maxi ones and also I keep seeing nasty gal pop-up. So check them out as well. They're a lot cheaper than Anthropologies guys So this is the last outfit that I would say is effortlessly chic for a tall woman All right guys, so that is the end of this video. I hope you guys enjoyed make sure you are hitting that subscribe Button and tuning in for the next video. Definitely going to be bringing you a lot more tall girl friendly Fashion because the struggle is real guys and you guys know it So I am here to help and show you guys how I style Regular brands and make them work for my body I do not shop tall girl brands not that I don't want to it's just that I am accustomed To making these regular brands work for my body Now if I do come across a tall girl brand and I really love their stuff I'm definitely going to buy it. But as of today I really do make regular brands work for my body and you could too. So if you are five nine to like six Feet maybe maybe six one You can definitely make a lot of this stuff work for you if you put effort into it It'll definitely work out in your favor So if you stay to the end of this video, please comment Coco We see you and don't forget to follow me on instagram at Coco styles NYC and Coco styles NY And my style blog you guys know my style blog is specifically for tall women And I give a lot of style tips. I may start bringing in some lifestyle to that blog as well and definitely bringing more lifestyle to this channel, especially when it comes to struggle guys And for most of you guys who who do know I am a plant based vegan And some of you who don't know this is how I've been eating for the past five years And I don't know it's just something that I absolutely love But that is my style blog Coco styles NYC dot com and my personal style services Coco styles NY dot com and I work with all women guys So thank you guys for tuning in and I'll catch you guys in the next one. Bye guys


What is going on everybody? My name is John Hammond and here I am, in the back of my car, I hope this is cool, I hope this is fun. I am realizing that I am not doing a very good job of actually recording when I'm home.   So here we are. Maybe it'll be better. Maybe I'll actually be able to produce stuff. What are we doing? We're doing Girls Go Cyber Start, which is a capture-the-flag activity exercise training content produced by SANS. So I have a lot of respect. I really, really love SANS and everything that they do and those guys are freaking fantastic. Girls Go Cyber Start is kind of oriented towards, in order to be eligible for prizes, you should be a girl in high school. So I am neither of those things. I might be able to pass for one of them. You can decide. But anyway, I think it's awesome. I think it's really fun because it's so granular in how it's teaching you and training you to do some things. So I wanted to cover a little bit of it and just enjoy. I should already have an account. Can I just play? How do I go? How do I do the thing? I already have an account. Sign in. I should just learn to read. That's it. So let's see if I can log in. Storefront. A little capture. Is that a storefront? No, no, that wasn't a storefront. Oh, I ruined it. I'm sorry. Now I'm going to have to, like, do it all over again. Click verify once there are none left. There are a lot, man. Why are you giving me so many storefronts? Come on, Google. Oh, that was 7-Eleven. Oh, or 7-Up. Yeah. I don't know why I keep calling it 7-Up. 7-Eleven. No, that's a car. I'm awful at this. Am I just stupid? Okay. Oh, God, I'm back to the storefronts again now. That's a billboard shell. That's a brand. Is that a storefront? I can't tell. Oh, my gosh. We're back to the buses now. Just fade out and don't give me anymore. Oh, my gosh. I'm just tethering right now because I'm kind of in a parking lot in my car. I am just using my cell phone to tether and connect it to the internet. Oh, goodness gracious. Maybe, oh, God. I had the wrong password all along. Had to go through all of those things. Had to go through all those captures.  Any more crosswalks? Of course. Take your time, Google. Just load. That didn't work. What was it, man? I forgot my password. Let's see how this goes. Oh, my gosh. Why do I need to do a capture for this? That's not a crosswalk at all. Traffic lights. Crosswalks. Yes. Am I bad at this? Am I doing this all wrong? That's another traffic light down there. Excuse me? What? I don't have an account? I knew I had an account. All right. What are the terms and conditions? Do I have to be a girl? Consent. Sign up. Gosh. This is just a video of me doing captures. This isn't even entertaining. There's a bus. There's a bus. There's a bus. It's so slow. It's like painstakingly slow. Another bus. Are you done with the buses? Nope, we're done. No more buses. All right. We were unable to verify my submission. Please try again. Is it because of my username? Now I got to go through all this again. Oh, my gosh. That's kind of a truck. No, that's a bus in there. That's a truck. Do I consider that a bus? That's a bus. Some traffic lights over here just to haunt my dreams again. Verify. Thank you. Okay. I'm going to check my email on my phone. Maybe it'll load ideally. Verify your email address. Yeah. Do it. Hit the go button. Okay. Now I have to give you all my information. How do you know which schools you're? I need to say what school I'm from. Again, I'm not in high school. Choose a school. Save extra information. Why do I need to do all that? Sorry. Oh no. My password, my normal password did not meet the criteria. Hello. Okay. Can I play now? Will it let me do it? Girls go. Sign in. I feel like it removed my account. Oh, my goodness. Gracious. It's getting pretty warm in my car. Not going to lie. Those are bikes. That's not cars. That's a car. Keep going, Google. That's another car. Those are cars. More cars. That's gotta be it. There can't be any more. I'm done with cars. Thank you. All right. Yeah. Finally. Here we go. Sign it. Congratulations. Registration for cyber start access. Assess. What is that? Okay. So I think assess is what I need. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Is it the same credential? I have to go through a friggin' Google capture again? Of course I do. How many of these have I done in this video? Is this even something that I want to put on the internet? Probably not. But am I going to do it anyway? Probably. Okay. Okay. Okay. We're doing it. We're playing the feud. My name is Agent J. Thanks for trying out cyber start assess. Over the next few pages I'll be giving you a small challenge to tackle. Oh, there's a tutorial video. Go to the first challenge. Let me do it. I don't know how long this has been quoting for. Let's check out OBS. We got another minute and a half. Let's go for 10 minutes here. Our agents are investigating a hacker who really loves her drag racing. She's been running a drag racing fan site where she hides secret messages using images of drag racing cars. We've replicated her technique below. Can you figure out what her secret code is? Okay. I just had to drag. That was the bit. I had to do some drag racing. So awesome. Fast. Sweet. Let's take note of these, man. Let's get some get flag scripts going. Challenge one, a total drag. Make directory GGCS. Make directory 01 a total drag. Flag.txt, dude. That's what I'm telling you. Let's move that 01 to B completes. Quick on the trigger with that. I dig it. Submit code. Yeah, of course I'm right. All I had to do was drag a drag racing car. Reversal of fortune. Our team of agents have been tracking. Let's actually, let's call it. Let's call it a video. Let's call it good. No, never mind. I'm not 10 minutes in yet. I'm reaching for that stretch. I'm reaching for that 10 minute stretch. Our team of agents have been tracking a hacker that sends cryptic messages to other hackers about what he's doing. We intercepted the blow message he sent recently. Can you figure out what it says? This is just reverse. This is just straight up text that's reversed. Make directory 02 reversal of fortune. Reversal of fortune. Let's say that's complete already. You know, let's make a bold statement. Let's do this in Python. Let's do nano get flag dot pi. User bin. Sorry. User bin environment Python. Let's say Python three just to make the people happy. We want to print this out, which is our string and have it be reversed so we can index just like that. A little CH mod. Oh, let's just see get flag go double qual. So that's the name nano flag dot text. And that's what we would submit. That's the code that you need. Okay, sweet. We got that done. Moving on to the third challenge. I'm having a blast. I hope you are too. Super, super cheesy, super fun. That's the video. Yeah, we're about 11 minutes in. I hope that was tolerable and a little bit enjoyable when I suffered through way too many Google captures for no reason. Here we are again in my car. I'll see you in the next video when I'm still in my car. If you did like this video, please do like comment and subscribe. Leave a comment, press the like button, and then also click on the subscribe button. That's what I said. Join the Discord server if you'd like to. There are lots of cool people that are always smarter than me. It's a cool party place. We talk about cyber. We talk about programming. We talk about all the other things that are related to those technologies. Get out of this video. I'm closing. I'm stopping recording.


Greens from the National Archives flag ship building in Washington DC, which sits on the ancestral lands of the Nacotch tank peoples. I'm David Ferriero, Archivist of the United States, and it's my pleasure to welcome you to today's conversation with Nathaniel Philberk about his new book, Travels with George, which retraces George Washington's tour of the United States shortly after his inauguration as our first president. Before we begin, I'd like to tell you about two programs you can view next month on our YouTube channel. On Wednesday, November 3rd at 6 p.m., we welcome Steve Roberts, who has written a tribute to the extraordinary life and legacy of his wife, legendary journalist, Cokie Roberts, in his new book, Cokie, A Life Well-Lived. Steve and Cokie's daughter, Rebecca Boggs Roberts, will join her father in conversation. And on Thursday, November 4th at 1 p.m., Philip Bigler, the author of Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, will share the history of the tomb, which marks its 100th anniversary this year, in his America's most cherished and revered military shrine. In Travels with George, Nathaniel Philberk both recounts the historical journeys made by George Washington through the new United States and describes his own experiences he followed the same roots in the present day. As Philberk's progress and thoughts are recorded in this book, Washington's own words are preserved in his diaries. Transcriptions of those diaries and his correspondence are freely available on Founders Online, the searchable website hosted by the National Archives, through the National Historical Publications and Records Commission. Founders Online has transcriptions of thousands of documents written by and to the nation's founders. There you can find Washington's letter to this cabinet written before setting off for Savannah, Georgia, laying out his itinerary instructions should any serious matter occur in his absence. You can also read entries from his diary which record the places he stopped, the conditions of the roads and lodgings, the weather and the terrain, and major crops of the area. While following Washington's paths, Nathaniel Philberk came to know our first president, not as a monumental figure of our history, but as a man, a traveler like himself. In reading the words preserved in traditional and digital archives, we too can become more familiar with Washington and the other founders. Nathaniel Philberk is the author of award-winning books including the New York Times bestseller Mayflower, which was a finalist for both the 2007 Pulitzer Prize in History and the Los Angeles Times Book Prize. His book in the heart of the sea won the National Book Award for nonfiction and was adapted as a film in 2015. Joining him in conversation is Evan Thomas, the author of numerous books including The Very Best Man and Robert Kennedy, The War Lovers, Sea of Thunder, and John Paul Jones. Now let's hear from Nathaniel Philberk and Evan Thomas. Thank you for joining us today. Hello to the National Archives. We're both, Nat and I are delighted to be here. Lots to talk about. Both of us are veterans of speaking to the National Archives and know a lot of you are history buffs and so glad to have you. So, Nat, this is a bit of a departure for you. You've written all these great books, but haven't gotten in your car with your wife and written about that before. Tell us about your thought process, how you got into that, how you went down this road metaphorically and literally. And maybe you could start with the chariot. Yeah, well, really, and that's where it began. And Evan, so great to to hang out with you for this hour. It's to see you in this post, well, in the midst of the aftermath of COVID. But well, yeah, it all began for me, really, during a research trip for my last book about the American Revolution in the Hurricanes Eye about the year of Yorktown. And I had a late inning research trip to Providence, Rhode Island. And I made my way to the John Brown House. Now, this isn't John Brown, the abolitionist. This is John Brown, quite the opposite, a slave trader and co-founder of Brown University. And in the back of his magisterial home is a little annex where there is what is known as John Brown's chariot. And it's to our modern eye, tiny. I compare the single forward facing seat to the back seat of a VW bug. It's this tiny little thing. And according to family tradition, when the newly inaugurated president, George Washington, was visiting Providence, John Brown gave Washington a ride in that chariot down to his shipyard where he was building a ship named for the new president. And that got me to wondering, because I, in the book I was writing, Washington visited Providence several times, but I had no idea he had come to Providence once he was president. Why? Why was he there? And that led me to realize he went on the series of presidential trips in an attempt to create a sense of nationhood among 13 former colonies. And so I was finishing up this book of straight history. It was one of close to a dozen books I had written in the last 25 years. I live on Nantucket Island, which is all of 14 miles long. I grew up in Pittsburgh, a sailor in that maritime capital of the universe, and where I needed to travel just to sail. And I used to love putting my sunfish on the top of my VW bug and traveling all over the country for sailboat races. And I was getting itchy after 25 years, hold up on Nantucket, where it takes all 20 minutes to drive from one end of the island to the other.  And Washington went on these series of tours across this country. And as it turned out, my wife, Melissa, had just retired. And hey, she could join me.  And they head out in search of the meaning of America, you know. And I thought, well, what if we had a new puppy named Dora, not a sedate 10 years old. She was a, this is a mouthful Nova Scotia duck tolling retriever, you know, pretty hyperactive. But what if, you know, the three of us went, you know, did our Steinbeck imitation and followed Washington across this country, you know. It's been said over and over again that we are in the midst of unprecedented political division. And I thought, well, it would be kind of interesting to get, you know, what historical perspective would I get on to where we are today by following Washington in his attempt to unite this country at the very beginning of our history? And so off we went. You know, you're a very warm and sunny guy, and your basic message is one of unity and how did Washington do it. But I was struck just when I started to read it, that you were drawn as you put it to moral ambiguity in mayhem. Yes. And, you know, that's where the dark side of history, if you will. So talk to us about that. I mean, both sides.  I know you're writing this to inspire us to be more unified and it succeeds on those terms, I should say. But also talk to us a little bit about your being drawn to the dark side. Yeah. Well, I am a big Stephen King fan. You know, I have, as my wife will attest, and our children, I do have a dark side. I'm fascinated by the darkness of life and, you know, one of my books in the heart of the sea is, you know, that light-hearted tale of survival cannibalism. And I just love this stuff. And for me, you know, even my story of the pilgrims, I had only interest. I did not want to make this an inspiring story that climaxes with the first Thanksgiving. It seemed to me that other things happened as well. And one of the convictions I've had in writing history is that, you know, there is this tendency to look on the past as a simpler time. You know, when people knew what they were about and seemed faded to make the journey in life that has led to where we are today. And that's hogwash. You know, the past was just as conflicted and terrifying as the present is, if not more so. And that's what interests me because I think we learn a lot more about who we are as human beings when we look at the dark side. And yes, there is light there. And I have to say, Travel with George is one of my few books that, you know, where I really, you know, I wanted to purposely go out there and not focus on the divisions. I mean, we all know what's going on with the divisions. What I wanted to know is what is still holding us together. And so that's what I was looking for. I wasn't looking to, you know, to, you know, go into the depths of that discord. I mean, that seems so painfully obvious to me. What I wanted to know is what kind of historical perspective could I get on a time when Washington tried as desperately as he could to pull us all together. So set the stage a little bit for those who don't know what federalists and anti-federalists are. What were some of the divisions? What was he faced with? Yeah, well, I think it's a surprise for a lot of people that we did not invent partisanship. It's been around from the absolute beginning. You know, when there was the revolution, it was patriots and loyalists. You know, this was a civil war as much as it was anything directed against Great Britain. And then what I think a lot of people don't realize is how much the Constitution divided this country. It was a very controversial document. There were no organized political parties, but there were two factions. There were the federalists who were fans of the Constitution and the strong national government it created. And then there were those who distrusted the very neat fact that there was the strong national government. These were known as anti-federalists who believed the states should retain the power that they had had under the Articles of Confederation, which the Constitution had supplanted. And so, you know, when Washington was inaugurated, two states, Rhode Island and North Carolina, had not even ratified the Constitution. They hadn't participated in his election. And so there was a deep divide already in America. And then there was another overlay, which is that there were these profound regional differences. You know, when the governor of Virginia said, my country, he did not mean the United States, he meant Virginia. And this held true in all the states. And so Washington felt a real need to try to create a sense of nationhood and also attempt to include both sides, those that were for his government and those who weren't so sure it was a good idea. And so off he went. So I was struck when he gave his inaugural address, we think of the great mighty George Washington confident guy. He was so staggered by the whole thing, he fell back in his chair. Right.    He sincerely did not want to become president of the United States.  He was a hero bigger than anyone else in the world, really. And all he had to do was lose when it came to taking on the presidency of the United States. And so, you know, his diary account of his journey from Mount Vernon to New York, which was the temporary capital of the country, is one long lament of, you know, everybody's applauding me now, but man, they're going to get on top, you know, they're going to be tearing me down as soon as I try to do anything. And remember, this was a people who had rebelled against the strongest military power on Earth over the issue of taxation. How was he going to tax these people? I mean, he, you know, he knew that all the divisions that had been there from the very beginning were latent. And yeah, they all, everyone loved him. But as soon as his policies came into clear focus, he knew those old divisions were going to come back.  She's on the roof of a house across the street from Federal Hall, where Washington is about to be sworn in on the second floor balcony.  Everybody's excited. And Washington is not excited by this at all. He's terrified. And at one point, it so staggers him before he takes the oath of office. As you've referred to, Evan, he staggers back and falls into a chair, and everyone goes silent. They know he's on the brink of what looks like a nervous breakdown. I mean, this is not the Washington most of us grew up with. And for me, you know, I've had some people say, well, you know, that's not why. Well, this makes him all the more heroic in my eyes. You know, if someone is blindly brave, they're not experiencing the inner turmoil that goes with someone who knows the risks, is completely aware of them, and goes forward just the same. Yeah. You know, I had that experience a little bit following politicians on the trail. Some of them, Bill Clinton, every crowd, he got a little, he loved it, you know? He loved the people, and he drew off, and he fed off of it. But other politicians, it was hard for them. Richard Nixon, not a hero to many people, was actually a brave guy. Every time he walked into a room, he was brave, because he didn't want to be there, he was shy. Yeah.  A more recent figure, John Kerry, was not somebody who loves crowds. I remember traveling with him, and I could see him mustering the courage to go out there. And I kind of admire that. One of the things you really get at, and talk to us about it, is this interesting, you can be a guy who projects confidence, like Washington, but be insecure. Right. And those things are not necessarily a contradiction. But talk to us a little bit about Washington's mix of insecurity and great security. Right. Well, you know, he had spent eight years as commander in chief of the Continental Army. And those eight years had been, I think, probably the best training anyone could have in putting a good face on a disaster. The war effort, I mean, Washington did not win the war. He survived it, as did the United States. I mean, anyone who thinks this was fated that we would throw off the chains of British tyranny, that's baloney. I mean, he knew better than anyone that it could have been lost countless times. And yet he also knew that everyone, not only in his army, but throughout the nation, looked to him as the symbolic presence of their name. If he should crack, if he should show a lack of optimism and strength, everything was done. And so he had spent eight years doing that. This guy knew how to make an impression. He knew how to hide his innermost feelings. He knew how to, you know, he loved the theater, you know. He, and he was, you know, he wasn't an outgoing guy, but he had a sense of the dramatic, the theatrical. And he knew that, you know, the, you know, I wonder sometimes how many, how did he look at a mirror and just try to say, what's the pose I need to have here? You know, you know, even though I'm dying on the inside, how do I look completely decisive? And, you know, and I, he had that.  And he has to somehow get through the crowd to his new residence and, you know, it's packed. They're unable to go by carriage because nothing can fit down the road. And so he gets off the boat and there is the head of the militia that's to escort him to his quarters.  And then he looks around and he says, but the people are the only escort I need. I mean, that's theater, but that's not what, as his diary reveals, that's not the confidence he feels.  And so he saw these people as, you know, a force that, you know, could go either way. And so, you know, this is Washington, this was Washington's great gift, I think, to hide that insecurity, to project this aura of absolute invincibility. And yet, not audacity necessarily, but he was able to, and you hear people, people refer to it constantly of, yet he doesn't come off as a braggart or whatever. There's a certain almost modesty about him as well. Tell us about the brown suit. I was struck by his brown suit. Right, well, you know, Washington was, of course, a general from the revolution and people were used to seeing him in his general's uniform. In fact, that's what he wore during his pre-inaugural journey from Mount Vernon to New York. And that's what he was wearing when he entered New York amid this huge crowd. But when it came time for his inauguration, he realized that, you know, I am now the leader of a republic.   I wanna be seen as one of the people. And so, Washington, the great role-player, realizes he needs to dress differently. And so, you know, and he was great with symbolism and there was a new, very embryonic cotton cloth manufacturing, textile manufacturing in Hartford.  And, you know, it's as drab and nondescript as you can have, and I think it must have been kind of a shock for the people when he stepped out of the carriage in front of Federal Hall to be inaugurated to see him suddenly, not at resplendent with golden epaulets on his shoulders, but now in this drab, you know, suit that was, as Washington admitted, not of the greatest cloth whatsoever, but it was American made. And that was his point. You know, and that was the Washington from the beginning realized it was a, he was tiptoeing a line where he wanted to project this aura of being in command, but he also wanted to make sure he wasn't accused of being a king. He had to be of the people. And I think presidents to this day are flirting with that edge, you know? And this is the nature of what was created in America is, you know, how you project this aura of command and yet are one of the people. And Washington, I think, established, you know, played that role beautifully. And thank goodness he was our first president because, you know, I think there were a few people who were capable of just that kind of, of, you know, seeing it so clearly, that dichotomy. I mean, he was a federalist, but he was willing to, of course, had to deal with the anti-federalists. And to be, he was a believer in compromise. That too was important. I mean, we think of the era we live now, people have not big compromise. I mean, maybe they're thinking about this right now on Capitol Hill, but, you know, we live in an age where people are morally superior and I'm better than you and I'm not compromising with you. That was not Washington, but that was some of the people around him. Absolutely. Talk to us about how he sort of fit in on that. Yeah, you know, Lincoln did not invent the cabinet of a team of rivals.  I mean, there was just no one like him, but he also brought in Thomas Jefferson, fellow Virginian who had been an absolute disaster as a wartime governor, you know, basically said, I can't do this and abandon the state at the worst of times, but also a brilliant man. This is the guy who wrote the Declaration of Independence.  And so, you know, what he thought, he had not participated in the constitutional convention, but his good friend James Madison had and had been a huge supporter of it and actually worked in concert with Hamilton in promoting the Constitution. And so Washington, you know, so Washington decides, you know, he brings in Hamilton, but he also reaches out to Thomas Jefferson, whom he'd had a kind of a prickly relationship with during the revolution, but he recognizes his obvious gifts. And, you know, typical fashion, Jefferson takes a while to respond. And he's turning from France, you know, it's not, you know, it's not until March, almost a year after Washington's inauguration that he becomes a part of Washington's cabinet. And from the start, he's very skeptical of what's going on, you know.  For him, you know, Hamilton's looking to the British model when it comes to creating an economic basis for this country.  And that's what would, you know, would have ultimately given them superiority. And so that's what Washington wanted. He wanted a strong, you know, economic basis for the country. You know, after his time in France, Jefferson is seduced by the French revolutionary fervor. You know, he comes from the opposite side. You know, that's not what a republic is about. We don't want to be like England. We want to be, you know, passionate and idealistic. And, you know, we know where the French revolution would go, but that didn't even bother Jefferson. He was, he was someone who was an idealock. He really was. And he was willing to ignore reality if, you know, I think he would be very happy today, you know. And I thought of that really bad. He's so all in. He's all the way over for the French revolution. He'd fit right in on Twitter, you know. Exactly. Social media blasts away. And shame people. And shame people for it. Shame him. Yeah. Yeah. Which he did with John Adams accusing him of monarchy. You know, John Adams didn't want to create a king. You know, come on, but you know, it was the tagline that worked.  You know, the kind of code words we have today. And sort of reassuring that they were just as vicious with each other as we are today. They didn't have the internet to do it, but they had pamphlets. They had way of getting their message across. Oh, and they were just as unreasonable and mean as we are today. Absolutely. And underhanded. I mean, in Jefferson's case, here he is serving in Washington's cabinet, getting increasingly alienated by Washington and Hamilton's economic policies. And he decides it's, he's going to do everything he can to secretly undercut Washington's administration. So what does he do? Yes, he didn't have the internet, but remember the internet of the day was, you know, the newspaper. And so he hires a guy supposedly as a translator for the State Department, but his job is to start a newspaper that is critical of the government. And, you know, it makes Washington life miserable, this paper. But, and Jefferson betrays, you know, absolutely no knowledge of what's going on when he and by this time, Madison are the ring leaders in organizing what will ultimately be the opposition party, the Republican party. And so, you know, this is going on in Washington's cabinet. And it baffled and infuriated him because he had no stomach for this kind of ideal log, you know, because Hamilton was just as bad. You know, he was on the other side. You know, he has this letter to Hamilton that I quote in the book where he says, you know, basically, dude, when you are this far on one side and another guy, Jefferson, is that far on the other side, maybe a middle course is the one that is best.  This is where Washington was. He didn't care who was right, who was wrong. He just wanted to make things work. My favorite song in the show, Hamilton, which I'm sure a lot of our viewers have watched is where Hamilton comes in. He's all hot about Jefferson, you know. Jefferson's, I think he's quitting and Hamilton wants to get him, you know. Come on, let's stick it to him. And Washington says, calm down, son. Let's sit down and have a drink and talk about this and let's show them how it's done one last time. Let's show them how it's done. I'm going to, I'm resigning or I'm not going to run again. I'm going to, you know, we're going to peacefully turn over power here. We're not going to have a fight. We're going to show them how it's done that democracy can go on after I've left the stage, but we can still have a country. And it made me cry listening to this.  And it made me wonder what made Washington so wise and so selfless that he could give up this lust for power that animates most politicians. How did he do that? Where did that come from? You know what I mean? You know, it seems enigmatic, but this is my take on it. I think Washington was the most ambitious person we have ever seen, but he knew how to hide it. He was swinging for the fences. He wanted to be remembered as he is largely remembered today as someone who was above the fray, who always looked to what was better for everyone rather than himself. And I think he honestly wanted to be remembered as that.  And it is the high, you know, and so you can say, yes, he is being selfless and all of that. But I also think at some point in his life, he said, you know, I want to be remembered as that person who, you know, who'd never wanted anything.  Washington was hugely ambitious. And he was playing the longest of games. He, it was posterity. He, you know, he didn't need to have the power now because he wanted to be remembered in future generations. And, you know, that's a deep game. Most of us want, you know, want it now. You know, we don't have enough faith in the future or in ourselves to do the right thing because, you know, it's right. I mean, so I think with Washington, yes, he is doing it for all the right reasons.  I need people to ask me to do it. Well, the long game, I mean, that all that experience during the revolution that you've written about so well, of playing the long game, he's not winning battles, but he's stand a lot. Yeah. And he's, you know, he's playing kind of a rope-adope strategy with the British of just standing one step ahead of them, waiting for his moment, waiting for the French, basically waiting for the French to arrive to be around. Yeah. Whatever, you know, he stays alive and keeps his army together. And it's this incredible patience when, you know, a lot of others wanted to fight the big battle and come on, let's have it and he, you know, be patient. And he learns that way. I wonder, he had to learn how to be modest. One thing about him that interested me was he's the one founder of framework who hasn't been to college. And he's a kind of modesty about that, intellectual, he's insecure about it, but there's a kind of modesty he gets from his minor attainments in the intellectual field. I wonder if that helps him. I'm just thinking a lot about it. Absolutely. I mean, you know, what he would, and you know, you see people, Abigail Adams has this wonderful description of him soon after she met him when he came to Boston during the revolution as the new leader of the Continental Army.  She even says love him. And I think that really comes back, I think people who incite that kind of response in people do not, you know, they project an element of modesty. And I think it comes from Washington, you know, his father died when he was 11. He did not go to the finishing schools in England that his stepbrothers went to, you know, so he has this sense of not being kind of abandoned and he had a very strong mother which he had a very conflicted relationship with. But, you know, it was one of these things where he's, you know, he has that sense of not measuring up.  Oh, yeah, the chip on his shoulder for the rest of his life. I think Washington had some of that. The British, you know, he desperately wanted to be, you know, a part of the British regular army, that was denied him. He didn't go to college. People like Jefferson and Adams really, you know, would refer to that in all sorts of ways. He doesn't know his Latin and Greek, you know, that kind of thing. And yet Washington was a, as, you know, we don't think of him as, you know, he wasn't brilliant the way Hamilton and Jefferson and Madison were, but he was a great thinker. There's, you know, I remember in one of my books, Valiant Ambition, where I'm talking about the Battle of Monmouth. And, you know, it all goes very well for Washington. And that night he sleeps on the field of battle with his men, you know, with his cloak under a tree. And an officer at midnight comes up and hesitates to, you know, wake him.  I'm not sleeping. I'm here to think. That's Washington. Washington, you know, he would just think about things. I think it has a lot to do with how our cultures have changed.  Washington had this incredible ability to dial out the static and just figure out what is the most important thing for me to do.  But I think it gets back to his lack of formal education. This is a guy who, as a young surveyor, spent countless nights out there in the wilderness just thinking.  Now, towards the end of his life, he's retired and he's able to go back and sit under his fig tree and you would think it would be all great, but it's not. Talking about thinking, you have this scene of him thinking at Mount Vernon towards the end where he's troubled and talk to us about that. What is he troubled about? What do we think he's troubled about? Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I think we, I mean, throughout this, throughout my, the three books about the revolution in this book, I kept wanting Washington to have a high five moment, you know, where he said, yes, I did it, it never comes. It never, he never gets that sense of satisfying accomplishment because always there's another catastrophe looming. And for Washington, you know, I said earlier he was swinging for the fences when it comes to posterity. One of the things that bothered him more than anything was his involvement with slavery. He had come to realize that, you know, it was a pernicious institution. You know, this is a guy who became a slave holder at age 11 when his father died and he inherited several enslaved people. You know, he had befriended Lafayette, the idealistic Frenchman who would later say if I had known I was helping to create a country of slavery, I never would have lifted my sword in the cause of America. Washington, you know, overheard, and this is recorded in Jefferson's, Jefferson writes it down, overheard saying at some point during his presidency, if slavery should divide this country, I will go with the Northern part. I mean, that's a pretty extraordinary statement from a Virginian who, you know, and there are 300 enslaved people at Mount Vernon. Half of them are owned by Washington. Half of them are owned by the estate of Martha's dead deceased husband and will become the property of their grandchildren. And Washington is responsible for all this and the two groups of intermarried. Washington has decided that he is going to free his slaves, but you know, by that time the groups are, it's a very complex situation. And so, and there are these accounts of Washington at the fireside with his family at Mount Vernon after, you know, the presidency. And he's not there sort of looking back with a benign smile on his face.  Because, you know, he didn't want to create a situation for Martha where, you know, it was just so complicated. And, you know, and I think he recognized that this would be the biggest challenge for his legacy in the future would be his involvement with slavery. And one of the things I want people to get from this book is the sense of how far Washington traveled, not just in terms of miles across the country but as a human being. I mean, he, you know, he's almost, he's born into this institution of slavery. He comes to doubt the assumptions of his childhood but he's not able to completely free himself from them given the entangled nature of his personal life.  He's the only slave owning founding father to do that. I mean, it's pretty extraordinary. And yet in the final year of his life, he is actively pursuing own a judge, the enslaved servant of Martha's who has escaped from Philadelphia to Portsmouth, New Hampshire in search of freedom.  You know, he is not consistent like all of us.  You know, the concept of the union that would inspire Lincoln to issue the emancipation proclamation was what Washington was working so hard to create during these travels and during, in his presidency. You have a line in there, the past is not always a pretty place, present isn't either. Talk to us about Washington's teeth. This is a little grim, but.  One is Washington slept here, you know, that whole sort of ha ha ha, he was sleeping around, you know, but Melissa and I, following Washington came to realize, you know, each one of those stops was not, you know, this was not fun for Washington. He was working tremendously hard to pull this country together. And then the other, you know, joke is Washington's teeth, you know, that he had dentures made of wood. He had dentures, they weren't made of wood, they were made of teeth from, you know, various animals from, you know, ivory of the hippopotamus.  He was back at Mount Vernon and there was a new technology and dentistry of tooth transplants. And the way it worked was a dentist would extract the tooth, the diseased tooth and then a person would be paid enough to donate their healthy tooth that was then extracted and then stuck into the jaws of the person who was paying for the procedure. And it almost never worked. Sometimes the tooth would hang in there for a year, sometimes five years, sometimes it would be rejected from the beginning. But Washington at some point, invites a French dentist to Mount Vernon. And this is really just very recently, have we become aware of this? Mary Thompson, who is a fabulous researcher at George Washington's Mount Vernon and covered this evidence of where he paid several, and it seems clear they must have been enslaved workers to donate their teeth, nine teeth. And you know, what happened? I think the scenario is pretty obvious. They were probably inserted into his jaws, which is just one of these scenarios that is just awful, awful to contemplate. And yet, I purposely include this in the book because this is where I come from with history. I think you have to look into the deep, dark recesses of the past to put what happens in a positive way in the proper context. And so this is part of Washington that speaks to the original sin that is still plaguing our society today. You have, there's an interesting moment when you're driving back with Melissa and she says, you know what? We got this diary, but I'm not sure I know what he's really thinking. And we've touched on this a little bit, but this is an interesting question about the, to me, he was a fellow popular historian, the writer's craft, you know, when you don't really know what they're thinking. And the diary just says, well, I slept here, or I ate here, but it doesn't really reveal thoughts. What is that like for you? You know, what do you do then?  Right, and you know, and you can't make it up. You really can't make it up. You can't make it up. I mean, I need to interrupt you for a second because I think a lot of people don't quite understand that. Yeah, because there is historical fiction where people do make it up. So there is another genre that does do this, but in our trade, you can't make it up.  And you know, one of my books in the heart of the sea, I mean, and that's the thing with history. It's all in the evidence.  And you know, there is a plot and often there just isn't the evidence to fill in what must have happened there. And so, you know, what I would do in a lot of my books is I say, well, we don't know what happened here, but in a very similar situation, this is what happened. And you know, and try to insert that into the narrative without breaking the historical period in which you're writing. It's a challenge. Those are the kinds of challenges I enjoy. And when it comes to a historical personage, such as Washington or George Armstrong Custer in my book about the battle of Little Bighorn, inevitably, you know, what the heck were these guys thinking? And so you can't make it up. And so what I, you know, I find myself doing is saying this is what was happening around. This is, you know, this is what they would do. This is what perhaps they were thinking. And you know, you have to have evidence to go on.  You know, we both come from a journalistic background, you know, where we're writing, we're creating a sense of life as lived today as a journalist and the way we both tell history, I think we're trying to create a sense of life as lived in the past because for me, the past is only as relevant as it can be related to by us now in the present. Of course that's tricky because things were different back then. It's, you know, they thought differently. I mean, if you're writing before, I never have, but if you're writing in the 13th century or whatever, totally animated by religion. Absolutely. Their thoughts are infused with God and that's the way they think. And that's, you know, that is true for some of us, but we live in a secular age, obviously, or more secular age. And that's an interesting translation problem. So you've written now about the 18th century, obviously, and the 19th, what are some of the challenges of conveying to us moderns the way they were thinking then?  I mean, that's why they got on the Mayflower and sailed across the Atlantic. It was this sense of spiritual destiny, you know, that very few people in the 21st century have experienced firsthand. And how do you get into that world? How do you write about their actions and do justice to what is the most important aspect of their lives? And so for me, it was, in that instance, you try to use their own words. William Bradford's of Plymouth Plantation. He's constantly translating what's happening into terms of a New England Puritan at that point, who sees everything in terms of God's judgment. You know, if it goes well for you, it's because God is on your side in this instance. If it goes bad for you, it's a judgment upon you and perhaps a test and you were left trying to interpret this kind of thing. And so it's a huge challenge. And you know, for the past to be relatable, there has to be some common ground between then and now. And yet to do justice to the then, you have to push it to a point where most of us go, what, you know, this is not anything I can relate to. And so that is, that's the trick. More fortunately, human nature hasn't changed too much over the... No, exactly. No, and I think that's where I think that can be lost. You know, it can, someone can, you can sort of deny the fact that we have any access to that past. But I think an historian who claims that they, you know, just through sheer archival work are there, it's, you know, you need to have both that in some kind of sense of our common humanity. We have a few questions, good questions from the audience that I wanna run by you. Here's one, how would Washington use social media if it was available during his time? Try to imagine Washington using social media. It's a hard leap, but give that one a try.  So that would not reflect well on Washington. You know, I think this, I mean, the whole page, this is where I think we're treading on difficult ground because Washington lived in just a completely different time with a completely different pace. In talking with Dean Melissa, who is now the retired Washington interpreter at Mount Vernon, he talks about how what a pleasure it was inhabiting Washington because you're in that past where there is no, what he describes as bubble gum of the mind, Twitter and social media and all that. But, you know, Washington was very sophisticated in his time. He used the technology of his day to his advantage, you know, particularly when it came to the industrial revolution, he saw that needed to come, you know, in his New England tour of Massachusetts, which was already the tech capital of the world, you know, he saw that and he loved all the technology, you know, was all over the place when it came to his Mount Vernon, farm of Mount Vernon. So, you know, I think, you know, if he was here today and had was grown up in this whatever, he would have been a very highly functioning person who would have, you know, figured it out. But that's not the Washington who is then. And so, you know, to plant someone from that age here, I think probably blood would start coming out of their ears at, you know, what has happened to the country we started doing in 30 years ago. But that, you know, I think Washington might have been a professional athlete if you brought him here today. He was incredibly physically gifted, you know, powerful thighs from writing it. Yeah. Another question was Washington's shyness and humility part of the reason he declined to serve more than two terms, not just because he felt he shouldn't be a president for life. Yeah. I think it was exhaustion more than it was anything. He really didn't want to run for a second term.  But, you know, so, and by that end of that, it just was, I can't go on any longer and I refuse to and now it's time for someone else. And, you know, by that point, I don't, I think he just was done with it. I mean, he was really done with it. And so the shyness and humility at that point was, you know, he was exasperated, exhausted and wanted to just get back to Mount Vernon and hang out with Martha. I mean, I think that was really where he was. And, you know, he didn't leave with, as I referred to early, any sense of, you know, yes, I've done this. It was, I just got to move on. Yeah. One thing on your travels, you were constantly running into myths and fables about Washington and Washington slept here, you know, just the man, all that stories that were useful but made up. It does raise this interesting question to the degree to which we need fables, you know, history or your history is true history and you go to the dark side when you have to and you're fascinated by it and it's useful. But there is also, I mean, we're talking to us about whether there is a place for mythology, if you will. Cause we live in a funny age where people are making up a lot of stuff. And I have to say I'm a little torn by it. You know, some that make countries do need myths. They just don't need completely fictional one.  Tell us what you think about it. Yeah, well, I know exactly what you're getting at.      I just have no stomach for that. And yet I really think we cannot hold historical figures to a level of, you know, a litmus test derived in the 21st century that is, you know, tolerates absolutely no deviation from what is now considered, you know, acceptable behavior. That, you know, 100 years from now, they're going to be looking at us and saying, what were they thinking? You know, no one measures up to this.  And so I think we need to give our, we need to look at our past with as much clarity as possible, but you also have to have us, you know, be able to recognize the times in which they operated and give people, you know, they were doing the best they could under the terms they had and give them some credit for that rather than, you know, expunging them from the record for not towing, you know, the line. Yeah. Well, a few people, maybe nobody does it better than you, Nat. I mean, telling these stories that are true and meaningful and moving and helping us get in touch with our past. So it's been a delight for me to have an hour to talk to you. And I know our audience has enjoyed it too. So thanks everybody for tuning into the National Archives and to Nat Philbricks. And I'm sure he'll be back. Well, thank you, Evan.