I was the head coach of the Punahou School Boys Varsity Tennis Team for 22 years, and we were fortunate to win 22 consecutive state championships. This show is based on my books, Beyond the Lines and Beyond the Game, and it's about leadership, inspiration, and creating a superior culture of excellence. My special guest today is the highly respected general manager of the Hale Kalani Hotel in Waikiki. He is David Barnes, and today we are going beyond leadership. Hey, David, welcome to Beyond the Lines. Hey, Rusty, it's great to see you. Thanks for having me.   We are so lucky to have you here in Hawaii, but can you share a bit about your background? Oh, sure. No, thank you, Rusty. I think you're an incredible person, too. My background, as it relates to hospitality, I actually got into hospitality by playing tennis. I needed money for school, so I would play a very different clubs that get different jobs and earn money playing tennis anyway I could. Most of my jobs, though, were in resorts, so I started to look around a little bit, and I really liked the environment and the operation, and I found my way just as I was graduating college. I went to school at UC Santa Cruz, and I was just graduating college, and I started working at the first hotel that I worked at, which is called Chaminade in Santa Cruz, and I fell in love with it. It's such an amazing industry, and I just learned as much as I could. I had great mentors, and from there, I worked a little bit in the U.S. I worked in Minnesota for a while. I worked in Lake Tahoe, and then I was fortunate enough to join Four Seasons. I joined Four Seasons in Philadelphia. They had me in Philadelphia, and then my big dream was to work abroad, so I transferred to the Four Seasons in the Czech Republic and worked in the Czech Republic and worked with them for about six years, and then I joined Shangri-La in China and worked in Asia after that, and then along the way, I worked for Apple for a bit. I'm kind of a tech nerd, so I just kind of filled that bucket, really helped me become a better leader, and then somewhere in between there, I owned a restaurant and then found my way back to hospitality, which is my true love, and now I'm here at Palo Colani, so I've been very fortunate to just have a really great career and land in such a great place in Waikiki with Palo Colani. Oh, for sure.  I mean, they're really good. They always have good depth, so that says a lot about you, and David, I want to ask you about Palo Colani because I love the location of Palo Colani. Palo Colani is an award-winning restaurant consistently. Why is Palo Colani so unique? Yeah, it's a special place. I, you know, it really, I think it's so unique. You go back to the roots of Palo Colani. I mean, Palo Colani has been welcoming guests and serving guests for over 100 years. It just has just unbelievable history, and it's, you know, it's really in our DNA, this gracious service and this sense of hospitality, and, you know, you fast forward to 2024, and, you know, it's just really, it's a part of everything we do. You know, it's not one person. It's the team. You know, it's the team has always made it happen, and we're very fortunate to have the team that we have, and, you know, everybody has that one thing in common, is, you know, that, excuse me, the sense of hospitality. It's just amazing. And, you know, we have, we have our new employees. They all spend about a week together in training before they start their new jobs, and we always talk about that one thing. You know, I always ask everybody, does anybody know each other? And usually everybody says, no, we don't know each other. And I said, I say, do you know you have one thing in common? You know, it's one thing that you like taking care of each other. You like taking care of people, right? And, you know, that's, that's the DNA.  You start there, and, you know, we're just able to do amazing things. I completely agree with you because it starts in the valet. I mean, they're so friendly. They're so caring. You can feel like, you know, when you arrive there, they're so happy to see you. And then that transcends into, you know, the check-in desk or just walking around in the area. And I love your restaurants, David. House without a key is, you know, very casual. I love it. Orchids is one of my favorites there. And why, why is orchids consistently, you know, one of the most popular restaurants at Hale Kalani? Orchids, orchids is really special.  You feel that, you know, gentle breeze coming in. And then on top of that, you know, we have tremendous chef, chef Christian Testa.  And then on top of that, it's, you know, it's one of our most tenured teams.  We're so proud of it. Oh, I completely agree with you. And right above orchids is one of my all-time favorite restaurants, La Mer. And La Mer is consistently winning awards. I mean, people love going to La Mer to celebrate special occasions. What makes La Mer extra-extra-special? La Mer is extra-extra-special. It is, you know, it's one of the longest-standing five-star, five-diamond restaurants in Hawaii for sure.   And they're always in sync. When we talk about the tightness and the closeness of a team, you could get no better.   And it's always, it's the same quality, it's the same creativity and, you know, it's just, you know, it's so special because of the teamwork.   It's actually, I think on a lot of TV shows, you know, you think you go into the back, into the kitchen of a five-star restaurant. Excuse me, and it's noisy. But it's not noisy. It's actually silent. And everybody knows what they need to do and they're just precisely doing it. It's amazing to watch. You know, again, like an orchestra, no music, but everybody knows their role and they're all striving for perfection, you know, every time. And yeah, it's just a fantastic team. I agree. It's so seamless. When you see the host until you leave, it is like a carefully orchestrated dance. I mean, it's really amazing what they do. And David, you also oversee Halepuna. And I was at Chef Vikram Garg's restaurant, Umi, a few weeks ago, and that was terrific. And tell me about Umi. Umi's very special. It opened last year, and Chef Vikram just so excited to get it open. And it's become, you know, it's the perfect complement to Halepuna. Halepuna is a boutique luxury hotel. It's one of the few in Waikiki. And the reason they pair so well is it's just, you know, the Umi has great energy. The creativity, you know, you think you're ordering loco-moco, and it's going to be one of the best loco-mocos you've had, but it's going to be different than any loco-moco that you've had. And, you know, and that's Chef Vikram's, you know, that's just what drives him is not only what you would expect is the quality and the consistency, but also that he just has this wonderful creativity and just keeps pushing the envelope.  It's been really well received, and, you know, we're just so happy he's doing so well. He's actually, he'll be celebrating his one-year anniversary next month, and it's gone so fast, but he's, Umi has done, you know, so well in such a short amount of time. We're really proud of it. Well, I have to say there's some dishes that Chef Vikram has created that I need, so I probably have to get back in a few weeks to celebrate that one-year anniversary, and David, one of my favorite places to be at, at Halakalani, is Lour's Lounge. I mean, tell our viewers about why Lour's Lounge is just so classy and just comfortable at the same time. Yeah, Lour's is, you know, it's kind of, some people call it the best kept secret. I don't think it's much of a secret lately. I mean, I don't think it's much of a secret. There's always a line out the door, which, you know, we wish it was a little bit larger so we could accommodate everybody, but, you know, it has the best jazz music that you'll find in the city, but you don't have to love jazz to enjoy Lour's. It just, it's a place to go, you know, to enjoy very high level, you know, entertainment in an environment that just, you know, it's just warm and cozy, friendly. We have a, you know, we have our regular artist, you know, Maggie Herron really stands out. She's one of the most popular, she's a Grammy-nominated artist that, you know, just, she never, it's never the same, it's never the same experience twice with Maggie. She makes it different and wonderful every time. And we also, we have a series that's called Live at Lour's where we bring in other very well-known artists to Lour's two, three times a year, you know, to make it extra special, but it's, you know, just, again, wonderful team there.  We also, we, Lour's just has, also has wonderful cocktails. We have a, our mixologist, Tuda, who actually, she was recently promoted to Director of Mixology, and she's just the cocktails that she's put together throughout the property that specifically Lour's are just, you know, phenomenal.  And again, yeah, just very special place for the entertainment and the team. Well, whenever I get invited to Lour's lounge, I always say yes. Good, thank you. Thank you.  I mean, what, what do you focus on really with your, with your entire team at Hale Kalani to really provide a special guest experience? What are your priorities? Our priorities, you know, it, your luxury, it's such an interesting word. And post COVID luck, the definition of luxury, I don't think anybody has a clear definition of it.  And, you know, Hale Kalani, we're definitely not inexpensive, right? I hope people have, you know, they have high expectations. And, you know, what we're, what we're looking for is really just, you know, our goal at the end of the visit, that people not only feel that there's value, but also that, you know, we've exceeded their expectations in every way.  But, you know, we really, you know, we empower our team to do the right thing. You know, we really focus on, you know, just giving them permission to, you know, take great care of the guests and to also encourage them to, you know, to give guests things that they're not even sure that they are, give the guest options that they're not even sure that they want, but, you know, to just really use their EQ to provide very high levels of service. And it's tough with new employees, you know, and it's, you know, it's a long journey for them to really be able to serve at that level, but we're just really lucky that they, they have a lot of mentors around them, you know, but it's, you know, it takes a lot of support, a lot of positive feedback, you know, a lot of coaching, you know, to really get them there. But it's, you know, we're just really proud of the team.   So, but, you know, it's a never-ending journey. It's, but we're, you know, we've been, you know, recognized again and again for our guest service for exceeding expectations, but we don't stop there. We always keep challenging ourselves, you know, to just keep taking it further. And even if it's a guest that's been here, been visiting us for 40 years and they think they've seen it all, they always, you know, try to find a way to, you know, to, to exceed their expectations. We had a guest who just, they celebrated their 200th visit. And, you know, she, she, she was sure she'd seen it all. She knew all our team and we had the 100, 200th visit. We did everything in increments of 200. So she had, when she arrived, you know, she loves M&Ms, so she had 200 M&Ms, proportioned out in her favorite colors.  We did, yeah, so many different things in 200s.  Wow, that's impressive. I mean, 200 visits, that's, that's amazing. And David, another area that I really like to go to, that you have live entertainment is right out, right at the house without a key, you have Hawaiian music and hula. Can you tell me about that? Oh, sure, Rusty. So house without a key is always been very popular, not only with visitors to the island, but also local guests. We're really proud of just how many, you know, just the mix of customers that are in the restaurant. And we renovated post-COVID, the restaurant, which included more seating and just, you know, just improved kitchen and larger service areas.  And as you mentioned, we've always had just very high level of Hawaiian music and hula, you know, every evening.  But we find that after you experience it one night, people, you know, they clear their schedule and add a couple more nights, you know, for house without a key. Yeah, just wonderful menu. Again, Tuta's done wonderful work there. We have just beautiful cocktail menu. And just the, it's the perfect, you know, just behind that kiawe tree is a natural stage. It's, you know, yeah, when you think of Hawaii, I think how could you not think of, you know, just house without a key in the evening, you know, enjoying the hula and a cocktail. And yeah, it just, it's just such a wonderful experience. And we've also added, we've extended the music into the evening with a second set, which has been very well received. You know, I just, you know, it just keeps the experience going in the evening. So yeah, just, you're so proud of the changes that we made and glad that we're able to accommodate so many more people and to experience house without a key. Well, I love it there. And it's so interesting because there's always a great blend of visitors and locals. I mean, and it's so comfortable. I mean, you just feel so relaxed there. And David, you brought me in this past year to do a keynote speaking for your leadership team. And your leadership team, I have to say, they're all exceptional high achievers. They're always looking to strive for superior excellence. And I love that. And what, what was the impact of my speaking with your leadership team?      And what your expectations are.   It was really inspiring to them.  And, but also, you know, I think, you know, when you, when I reflect back, my best mentors were coaches, right?  So, yeah, so thanks again. Yeah, we'll, we'll definitely do it again. But yeah, it was just so inspirational for them, you know, and it's really stuck with them. Well, I felt so great to be there with them and they have so much positive energy. And, and David, you got both of my books for, for all of your leadership team as well. Yes, thank you. And my, I have my third book, Superior, will be coming out very shortly. What are some concepts that stood out to you in the books? You know, I, I was hoping you would ask that question. So I, yeah, I wrote them down.  They're made. They're made through the influence of others. And I remember when I was reading the book, I referenced back, but, you know, I highlighted that section because I just really believe in that.  And, you know, and really this is what, you know, and just, you know, an hour, this is what you did for my group, right? You know, is you added tools to their toolbox, right? That they didn't have before or made them think of things in a different way, you know? So, you know, so that, I really believe in that. And I've been fortunate. I try to, you know, to make sure I can do that.  So that really stood out. And then one for me personally was, you know, I wrote down, it's your thought, control it and own it, you know?    I've experienced that on the, on the court and I've experienced that off the court and, you know, just, you know, that really resonated with me a lot. And I think it's, yeah, just really important for anything in life. Well, I love hearing those things, David.  And like you said, you know, great leaders build other great leaders.  My style, I always try to approach everything with balance.   So, you know, so I'm either, but you can't just, can't just do that.  Oh, I love hearing that. And I want to, I want to ask you about Peter Schoenlin, Halla Kalani, C-O-O. I had him on my show. Oh, sure. And you guys have a great relationship. I love Peter Schoenlin. And basically, I want to ask you, what makes him a great leader? What does, what does he do? What's the number one thing that he does that makes him great? Peter, wow. There are a lot of things that make Peter great. He, my favorite thing, we were just talking about this the other day, is he, he is so creative.  He, you know, so I think what makes Peter so great is just when you think, you know, that you've, you know, pushed beyond, you know, that you've pushed way beyond whatever obstacle you've set up for yourself, Peter as a complete, like sees it just so differently, right? Like, you know, and shares that with you.  It's this, like, yeah, the just, this inspiration and creativity. So that's my favorite thing.  And if you think you have a great idea, he's, you know, he said, go for it, you know, and how can I help you get to where you want to go, you know, and that's, you know, it just, yeah, just a pleasure working with him. I love what you said there about Peter, about his creativity, and then I feel his passion. I mean, he's, he's so passionate about what he does. So, no, it's just so great that, he's been there for so long. And Holly Kalani continues to sustain success, which is, which is huge. And Peter, David, I want to ask you one more thing before we wrap up. Sure. What gives you fulfillment? Oh, it gives me fulfillment.   And at the same time that I'm, you know, just a really good general manager for Holocaust Lonnie. And Holocaust Lonnie. Yeah, well, David, I have to say you are.  And I want to thank you for taking time to be on the show today. See, no, it's an honor and I really enjoyed it. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, David. And thank you for watching Beyond the Lines on ThinkTek Hawaii. For more information, please visit RustyKomori.com and my books are available on Amazon and Barnes & Noble. I hope that David and I will inspire you to create your own superior culture of excellence and to find your greatness and help others find theirs. Aloha.


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Hello and welcome back to theCUBE's live coverage here in Boston, Massachusetts for Red Hat Summit 2023. Also Ansible Fest happening now with Red Hat Summit. I'm John Furrier with Paul Gillin, breaking down all the action. Paul got a great guest here, coming in to talk about Intel and Red Hat working together. Christine Bowles, VP of Network Edge Group and the general manager of Federal Industrial Solutions at Intel, welcome to theCUBE. Big title there, I got two things going on. Yes, it is, it is, and thanks for having me here today. Daryl Jordan Smith, CUBE alumni. Senior Vice President of Industries and Edge for Red Hat. Obviously Edge, Intel, we're seeing where this is going. Let's get into, what's your role at Intel? Take a minute to explain what you do. Sure, I like to say I have the best job at Intel. Having the opportunity to work with some of the best people, partners in a transforming industry, and specifically, we can have the opportunity to, how do we apply Intel's products and technologies in the areas of aerospace, smart facilities, the manufacturing utility space, and what are those technologies that are really going to transform and digitally transform operations in critical infrastructure that we have around the globe. And it also gives me an opportunity to work with partners like Red Hat, as this world is moving to more software defined and ultimately on the path to autonomy. Daryl, what's your role at Red Hat and what's the relationship with Intel like? Well, I think Christine did a great job of stealing my thunder. She's a fantastic partner, and what we do here at Red Hat. My role at Red Hat is really focus on the industries that we engage with at Red Hat, particularly around telecommunications, industrial sector, automotive, health care, and financial services, the same name, but at least. You know, Industrial IoT, we've been writing that poll for like now, I could say 67 years around the opportunity, but also the challenges, national security to all kinds of critical infrastructure to just business. And it's a huge opportunity because it's the convergence of the two worlds, OT and IT, which we've been saying is going to be colliding for a lot of years. Has that happened? Is it happening? It is happening, and it has to happen. I mean, the real need comes from this infrastructure is limited in what it can service. It needs to be more agile. It needs to be more flexible. And what do you have? You have that in IT. If you bring the IT infrastructure into the OT world, it allows for that flexibility to happen and that transformation to happen. And then it allows for new functions like artificial intelligence and that intelligence at the edge to happen. I want to follow up on that because we were talking before we started the cameras, we were talking about what's happening in semiconductor manufacturing and the intelligence, the role of AI, and really you're out on the leading edge in that area. What are you doing in semiconductors now that other industries can look forward to in their factory floor environments? Yes, so you know, with the intelligence that you have in semiconductors, manufacturing that you need for the geometries we deal with, you have to feed forward information, you got to feedback information to adjust the processes. A lot of manufacturing doesn't have that today and you need that kind of intelligence and you need the ability to deploy that and manage those kind of operations at that level. So as the infrastructure of that IT OT conversions happens, it allows for that flexibility and that ability to bring those kind of workloads in and bring that kind of adjustment. What's the edge like these days? I mean, obviously we always talk about the edge and industrial edge really manufacturing and other things, telecommunications, you know, in Mobile World Congress, we were talking about the impact of cloud and hybrid operations. It just distributed computing is what we're seeing now is that this is the world, which is great. We all love that. Yeah, public cloud, on-premise and edge. You can have a data center the size of a couple of boxes out there. This is the new footprint. Well, there's many different definitions around edge. You know, from a core data center could arguably be in a country like Japan, long-thing country at the edge, by definition is very close to everything around it, all the way out to very large geographic regions where you might have technology that's interconnected in a very thin layer back into the core network and function. But the key thing is what you just said is hybrid. It is absolutely hybrid. It runs across multiple hybrid cloud infrastructures, on-prem, off-prem, through the mobile edge computer arena, back through the network into the core data centers. Would you say that edge is misunderstood or just too many definitions? I think there's lots of definitions. I think that people throw out edge and it can mean lots of different things. I mean, it could be a phone, it could be a car, it could be a data center. I think of you too when I hear the edge. Yeah, absolutely. They're like a great album. What, a question for both of you. What's an example of what you see a customer doing at the edge right now that really excites you? Do you want to go first? Sure, I'll go first. I mean, there's so many things that really excite me. The one of the key things I've seen more recently is in the United Kingdom where British Rail are using computer vision to not just safely monitor what's happening over a platform at the edge, i.e. if someone falls down, they might be hurt and dispatch someone to help them through to security, through to just tracking trains, leaving and arriving on time. There's a lot of economic benefits from them and actually doing that, ensuring the train station is safe and flowing properly. That's just one very simple application. Smart video. Absolutely. And what we're doing in Narita in Japan from curbside all the way through to the aircraft, not necessarily having to check anything, go through security because facial recognition allows you to flow all the way into the aircraft, all happening at the edge. Oh, I can't wait for that. Yeah, it's phenomenal. You don't want to be on those lines. What's the bleeding edge? It is. And those examples is really about that AI at the edge.  You need to process it and act on it local. I think one of the things that we are doing together and it comes out of the industry and this has been a journey. Some of these things in the industrial space has to be a journey. And we've been on this journey for about six, seven years with the Open Group and the Open Process Automation Forum that is redefining what process automation is and think of moving what happened in the telecom industry and becoming more software defined. The same thing is now through this standards is how do you do this more in the process automation space? And what we're demonstrating here at the Red Hat Summit in the Red Hat booth on the edge is an instantiation of that sitting on the Red Hat, a process automation managing an overall workflow, an overall automation system. And to think about where we have been with more closed systems to now more open systems, utilizing the assets we have from the IT industry, from the telco industry. For me, this is game changing of how we're going to ultimately be managing operations. Can you expand on that? Because this also makes me think about the trend around hardware is back and we're somewhat hardware again. It's like, don't talk about hardware. We have speeds and fees. We're not a box player, but everybody's got Silicon. They got the software convergence of chips and everyone is in the software business. It's on hardware. So that distinction of getting that level of performance at that core physical layer is the physics problem. You guys know that well. That's software now. So now you got open source and you look at some of the AI conversations where he's trying to squeeze as much software power out of the Silicon. Everyone's going through the network and to the chips. Yeah. That's pretty much an edge kind of dynamic. What is that all about? How do you guys react to that? Because this is kind of unpacking that a little bit. Yeah, it is. So I mean, ultimately, it is the hardware and the software interacting. You need the optimization. You need the acceleration in your chips, in your processors that can ultimately perform the software functions. And so we've been actually putting additional functions, whether it's for network workloads, whether it's industrial features to go into the industrial infrastructure to handle real time operations, or whether it's AI inferencing functions to make it easier. And then Red Hat can utilize those functions and optimize their software on that. And of course we work a lot in the open source community to make it happen. There was a leaked memo by Google a couple of weeks ago that opened up the Kimono, if you will, on essentially how open source got some leaked meta AI code. Open AI was donated, and the open source community ran with it. So if your software defined in the software business is now open source, which we all can agree has happened, it's the perfect innovation opportunity. How do you guys look at that? Because you want to write to the chips. You want the chip power. So we're doing much, much more to engage the open source communities, to light up if you want for a better term, the instruction sets and all these microprocessors. So we can actually get the maximum power out of them at the minimum sustainable most footprint. So sustainability is a big topic in this area as well, particularly as you move more and more to the edge, because there's a lot more compute that's happening at the edge with the AI and other machine learning innovations that are occurring there. The other thing I think from an open source perspective, which is really important is innovation. So a lot of the things that we talk about, oh, it's the edge, innovation is going to be created by software companies and businesses and individuals in the open source communities that's going to drive these applications and services. So really what we're trying to do together is expose a number of those elements for those software innovators to come to the table to look at the next generation of disruptive technologies. One of the issues of open source that sort of one of the black eyes recently has been the vulnerability of open source to supply chain attacks. Big initiative from Red Hat being announced this week about software supply chains. And just sort of the inherent vulnerability of open source projects to attack, manufacturers are nervous about that kind of thing. What do you tell them to reassure them? Really three things. The first thing is the amount of people looking at open source code is incrementally much more than a proprietary based traditional based model. So there's a lot more peer review of the code itself. So it's inherently arguably more secure in that sense and you've got more people looking at it. Big projects. Yeah, big projects. Second thing is that we're very focused on certainly from a Red Hat and open source community perspective we're working with governments to actually certify and endorse and actually secure our underlying platforms in that regard. The third thing is what we're doing with Intel in terms of connecting those things from all the way from the silicon all the way up into the application looking at security as a service. I think Christine you could probably talk more about that. Yeah, so we ensure that we're putting the best features into our silicon that can ultimately allow for the trusted boot, the trusted functions, running, operating in our silicon such that the assets of the software that Red Hat provides helps utilize it. Talk about the partnership with Red Hat from your perspective. How's it working? Give some examples of some of the things you guys done together. Yeah, well, I mean, it's a long standing. Yeah, well, you know what, I hit on a little bit earlier. I mean, if you take what we've done together in IT infrastructure, what we've done in the telecommunication and bringing those capabilities in now we're bringing that into the edge and that intelligent edge. And how do you bring that IT functions into a space that frankly has been more of a proprietary kind of closed system approach and more open it up and allow for it. And we have the know-how, we have the capabilities. Now it's just what are the specific things you need to have available in an industrial infrastructure with the lower latency, the more deterministic kinds of operations that you need in those types of systems. And security too. And security, which is foundational to everything we do. Yeah. Awesome, well thanks for coming on theCUBE. Really appreciate it and congratulations on the many, many years of partnerships. A lot of stuff you can borrow from the old generation, power management, energy, sustainability, but that integration with software, it's now open source and Intel better together. Yeah, and coupling those things together is what Intel and Red Hat do very well together. We've been doing it for many, many years. So we're really trying to drive that next wave of innovation, particularly out to the edge. Yeah, I'm really bullish on the data infrastructure, Paul. You know, as AI shows that the hype of the chat and the CPT is ubiquity under the covers, it's a lot of work to be done on performance. Compute, decoupling, the observability data. That's a theme we're hearing a lot here at Red Hat. And with Red Hat and Intel, we make it as easy as we possibly can for our developers and the ecosystem to participate. Christine Daryl, thanks for coming on theCUBE. We appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. All right, just theCUBE covered for Paul Gill and I'm John Furrier. Thanks for watching. We'll be more coverage day one, two days Red Hat Summit coverage. We'll be right back.


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Scream Queens premiered September 22nd, 2015 on Vox. The slasher comedy featured an incredible ensemble cast including Jamie Lee Curtis, Emma Roberts, Kiki Palmer, and incredible guest stars like Nisi Nash and Ariana Grande. Although the show initially received mixed reviews and its ratings steadily decreased throughout season 1, the fans that were gathered were very devoted. To much surprise, Scream Queens was renewed for a second season on January 15th, 2016. The second season, which switched settings from season 1's sorority house to a hospital setting, was actually more well received by critics. However, a lot of fans were not the biggest fan of this season. This could be due to the time jump, the setting switch, or the narrative focusing less on the who done it aspects like season 1 did. Ratings for the second season were unfortunate and to no one's shock, Scream Queens was cancelled at Vox after two seasons on May 15th, 2017. Fans, like myself, were upset, however given that the show was not a success when it comes to network television, we weren't surprised. Ever since the cancellation, Ryan Murphy has not spoken about the show. Its cast moved on to other projects and everyone seemed to move on besides the fans. That was, until, Sunday, February 3rd, 2019. Out of nowhere, Ryan Murphy posted the following post on Instagram. He writes, So many people have recently been asking me about the rebooting or continuing of Scream Queens, rest in peace, taken too soon. Emma Roberts, Billy Lord, Leah Michelle, and I have mused on it, but question, should it be a 6 episode limited series, a catch up movie, and who should I bring back? So basically what this post means is that Ryan has been given an opportunity to bring this show back in some way and I'll get more into that in a second. But basically the two options on his mind are a 6 episode limited series which would act as a season 3, probably on Netflix or a full on movie, which would probably also be on Netflix. I honestly have not experienced such a large sense of hope in a long time and if you haven't guessed Scream Queens has been and will probably always be my favorite show, so I was completely ecstatic. Emma Roberts, aka Chanel Oberlin, commented on the post saying Long Live Chanel. Leah Michelle, also known as Hester, or Chanel number 6 commented Long Live Hester. Nisi Nash, also known as the iconic Denise Hemphill, liked and commented expressing her interest in returning. Jerry O'Connell, who played Dr. Mike in season 2's flashback scenes, expressed his approval in reviving the show. Emma Roberts, Leah Michelle, and Glenn Powell, who played Chad Radwell, also liked the post on Instagram. Chanel number 2, played by none other than Ariana Grande, also liked the Instagram post. John Stamos also liked the post, but you know how I feel about Brock Holt, so let's pretend he didn't. So it's safe to say that although not all of these characters are sure to appear, there's still a chance that a lot of the original cast will return. I mean just look at all the interest on this Instagram post alone. It has become Ryan's most liked Instagram post since November and is still counting. By far this is his most commented on post of any that I could see. I looked back on his Apocalypse announcement, his Cult announcement, and this easily blows those out of the water in terms of comments. So it's safe to say that the cast is really interested and the public is really interested as well. Because you know it's been a couple years since the show last aired and it's been on Hulu ever since, so it's safe to assume that the show has garnered a lot more fans than it had in its original run. As SQ news updates on Twitter noted, Lauren Botte, a costume designer, reposted this post with the hashtag season 3. Okay so this post seems kind of like it's spur of the moment right? They probably haven't set any filming dates or anything, unless they have. SQ news updates on Twitter also pointed to an interview with Emma Roberts from January. In the clip Emma Roberts notes that she's doing something with Ryan Murphy at the end of the year. He's the best. I mean when he called me six years ago and was like do you want to be on one of my shows? I literally screamed and put the phone on mute and then was like maybe tell me more. I'm so happy that he's kept me around and it seems like I'll be doing something else with him at the end of the year so I'm really excited. You may think oh she's probably referring to another American Horror Story season and yeah maybe but doesn't this seem a little too slight to just be her hinting at another American Horror Story role? It seems like I'll be doing something else with him at the end of the year so I'm really excited. It wouldn't be completely shocking if she was to return in American Horror Story so why not just say oh I'm probably going to be doing American Horror Story because we know Billy Eichner and Sarah Paulson have been basically saying that on talk shows but that kind of makes me think that she is referring to this Scream Queens project. Also American Horror Story films in the summer so she isn't referring to American Horror Story unless she misspoke and meant to say later this year not at the end of the year because at the end of the year they've completely wrapped the ninth season of American Horror Story. So does this mean Scream Queens season three or a Scream Queens movie will be filming late 2019 for a 2020 release? That's what I think and I think this Instagram post was a clever way to build up hype and he actually does have a larger idea of how and when he is going to do this project. It appears that Ryan and the cast may have a complete idea on what they're doing and Emma Roberts, Lee, Michelle and Billy Lord are all but confirmed to return. Now let's talk what medium this reboot might fall in. So as you may know Scream Queens is a trademark of 20th Century Fox because that is who distributed the show and that's who produced it and all that. It was on their network. But Ryan is still friendly with 20th Century Fox. He has several shows still airing on their networks, which are Fox and FX.  But Ryan recently also struck an infamous $300 million deal with Netflix, which seems like the perfect place for television reboots and reunions. Fox still owns the trademark for Scream Queens, but given Ryan's relationship, I believe they can strike a deal for the production of season three. If Ryan didn't think he could strike a deal with 20th Century Fox to get the rights to Scream Queens back to Netflix, I do not think he would be posting about this. So I don't think this is a problem at all. But I definitely think this new project will air on Netflix. Personally, I hope they go for the limited series direction. I would love a full 13 episode season or even 10 like the second season, but I could see six episodes working, especially on Netflix, where each episode can be however the hell long they want it to be. They don't have commercial time to fill up. And so the episodes could be like an hour and a half long. And I'm completely fine with that. The more the merrier. So if you think about it like that, the runtime could actually be equal to the second season. But if they do go with the movie direction, I feel like it would be kind of hard to wrap all of these iconic characters. And I feel like that's all the movie would end up being. And that's not necessarily what I want if we're bringing these characters back. I don't want this little thing that wraps up all the character stories. I want another mystery. I want another serial killer to be after these characters. So this would be too difficult to do both tasks in under two hours. So a limited series would definitely be the best direction. And if you're thinking about budget, Scream Queens doesn't necessarily need the biggest budget. We don't need these large set pieces. We can we just really need these characters. And I know these are big names, so it does need budget to make that happen. But Netflix seems to not care about where their money goes. They're making these huge movies with these huge names. I think they can spare the budget for a Scream Queens limited series. I think Scream Queens was way ahead of its time. And I think Netflix is the perfect place to put a show like Scream Queens. It's got such a specific demographic and not everybody's going to like it. But the people that do like it, they love it. Like it's such a specific audience, which you may think is bad for a TV show, but it's great for Netflix, where there's so many different shows on Netflix for different types of people. And this show captures a certain group of people, as you know, because you're probably one of them if you're watching this video, that latch onto these characters and these campy stories and the serial killer aspect of it and the mystery and all the drama and the comedy. They latch onto it and honestly, it's like the perfect show for this people. And it's the perfect show for Netflix. Like I understand why it didn't succeed on Fox. It could succeed on FX, but it will have the most success on Netflix. But I have a whole video written about what I would want from season three if we're talking about plot elements, so I won't focus on the plot in this video. But just a side note, Jamie Lee Curtis needs to return, even if it's just for a cameo. Ryan Murphy made the show for Jamie Lee Curtis, so it would feel a little off if he continued it without her. Now, I know she's busy and I know she might want to focus on other things, but I do know she does have a relationship with Ryan Murphy. I don't know how sense of it is, but I think Ryan can convince her to come back. I'd be fine with a cameo, but I would obviously love for her to have a large role. I'd love for all of the original cast to have a large role and even some of the guest stars like Nisi Nash, she needs to be in it. But anyway, if Screen Queens really films late 2019, I would expect a summer or fall 2020 release date. You know, this is just speculation, but I hope with every ounce of hope in me that this works out. Even if it's not what everybody wants it to be and some people can't return in the plot, maybe not what everybody envisioned, I would be elated to revisit these characters in this world, no matter what. I know a lot of people don't like second season and I admit that the second season is a little bit of a drop in quality from the first season, but they obviously went two different directions with them. And I honestly love them both. So even if this isn't the most amazing thing in the world, I would be the happiest person to watch it because I honestly thought this would never happen.  It was like the perfect show that was made specifically for me. It takes every single aspect of TV that I love and it puts it into one show. So I'm honestly the most excited person about this. Like I thought it would be like impossible for this to even happen with all the cast members and I know it's just a lot to think about and I really hope it works out. And if Ryan Murphy is really interested in this show again, like he was with the first season, I think they can do some amazing things with it because you know, it's rumored that Ryan kind of lost interest and wasn't really all hands on deck for season two like he was with season one. And that could kind of be what caused the kind of tone shift and stark difference between season one and season two. But if Ryan is really all hands on deck on this, like he was with season one, it could be everything we need. All right, so I just wanted to update you all on the amazing news and speculate about the possible production schedule. Of course, there's still a chance that this may not work out. But with all of these cast members and Ryan himself interested, I think it's pretty safe to say that we have not seen the last of the Chanel's. All right, so give this video a like and make sure you subscribe for more Screen Queens news and theories.  But I think this news kind of maybe hopefully put a spark in the fandom and maybe repeat interest, but but I'll also, of course, be updating on American Horror Story season nine and every Ryan Murphy news that comes out. So make sure you subscribe. And also, thank you guys so much for sticking around during my two month hiatus. Honestly, only Screen Queens could pull me out of my retirement, but I'm so glad it did and I hope to be back for good now. All right, thank you for watching and I'll see you soon.


Hey friends today, I am hanging out at Epcot and we're gonna continue our food adventure around World showcase trying all the different sit-down restaurants and today we are in the France Pavilion to try Chef de France. I'm very excited. I've never eaten here before and I think it's gonna be pretty good. So let's go do this and Here it is. I've never eaten here before so this is actually gonna be my first time But I do know that they have prefixed like meals so you can get one appetizer one entree and one dessert for 4950 but that also comes in one glass of wine So I'm probably gonna end up doing that because it seems like it's the best bang for the buck Normally I like to give you guys a little tour around the Pavilion itself that I'm dining at but today I'm running a little bit late for my reservation. So once they do call me I'll probably have to go in but I'll show you around a little bit and then once we get done with dinner We'll come back out and I'll give you a little bit more of a tour. I Notice they brought out the Beauty and the Beast topiaries for the flower and garden festival that starts actually next week So I'm excited but also the Beauty and the Beast sing-along is actually going on right now So maybe after dinner we'll come check that out and get a dessert from the bakery. I love the bakery back there It's my favorite spot. I Just got a notification. So now our reservation is ready. Well, the table is ready and I'm hungry This is gonna be good It is so beautiful in here. They have another restaurant. That's not open yet Monserrat Paul's But it's actually closed and it's upstairs, but I love the inside of this restaurant Oh, we're gonna get a nice window seat. It looks like oh fancy that I Really like the table that we got here. This is always a good surprise when you get to have an outside view I don't know why it just meets good for the lighting and just the dining experience I like looking at pretty things when I'm eating and You can just see everybody walking about enjoying the France pavilion and look those are the topiaries with Beauty and the Beast before Like I mentioned out front They are doing a prefixed meal where you get an appetizer an entree and a dessert and a glass of wine or soda And it's all 4950. So we'll take a look at the entrees and appetizers and see what we're gonna get I'm gonna try to get things I normally wouldn't get you know I mean so like if there's a go-to option that I always get at different restaurants whether it be steak or chicken I usually tend to do something different for like these different reviews because it's about Experiencing new food that things I've never had before We'll take a look at the appetizers first and you see that they have some really good choices They have some salads and some charcuterie's but I think I'm gonna go with the French onion soup because I like soup But I'm not too big on the cheese So we're gonna see how that works out and then for entrees they have salmon steak But I think instead of just going with the steak like I normally would do because you know, I like steak and potatoes I might get this bail boine and it's beef braised in Cabernet with baby onions carrots and leguini pasta That sounds like a good idea because like I said normally I would just go immediately for the filet But mixing things up a little bit as a part of the experience and then for desserts we have to do the crème brûlée Have to I Don't think I've ever had beef bourguignon or beef brandy before I've had plenty of Irish stews And I just I do enjoy stews a lot now This one is made with the Chardonnay and it's served with linguine pasta So it's definitely a big it's a big change up I would say and I'm excited to try it They also serve some Cronenberg here. I ordered the Cronenberg thinking I could have got this with a prefix meal But you can't so I'm gonna have a glass of wine come a little bit later But I'm still excited to drink this you can't say no to a Cronenberg, you know This is so refreshing What are we got baguette Maurice the baguettes That is really cool so along with that prefix meal that's $49 you also get a baguette and it's hot like oh, I'm excited Need a little butter a fresh baguette. This is this is a really good deal I Think I'll hang on to my baguette from where my French onion soup comes because that'd be good to dip in the French onion Soup and you know it kind of like a French dip maybe and I've been trying to take my hat off You know because I'm gonna be gentlemen like but the Sun is really really bright So I'm gonna keep it on until the Sun just moves to the left there just a little bit You know, I definitely want to be gentlemen and you take off your hat and fancy places and I feel fancy in here But it is really blinding me right there soon. It'll go down a little bit. It's still a beautiful view though So I'm happy The soup is here and I had a switch seats because the Sun was getting too much So now I actually on the other side of the table and look at all this goodness in here I am so excited to try this if you like the cheese. There's a lot of it. I'm gonna try a little bit with the cheese I just don't know if I like the the you read that it is Usually, I don't like provolone cheese is I'm very picky, but we'll see either way. I know I'm gonna love the soup itself A little bit of soup. Oh, that is some hot soup, but now I want to try it with the baguette So we're gonna break the baguette Look at that now we're gonna dip the bread in That's the way that's how you do it This is gonna be amazing. I already know The soup is great, but when you mix it with the fresh baguette. Oh man, this is just dunk ability right here Let's make sure we get a little onion and cheese this time to try it. I Have to say that baguette is amazing and I probably will save a little bit for my stew as well I know I like to eat stew with bread and I've never actually mixed in leguini pasta with stew So that's gonna be a new combination for me. I'm used to eating like, you know, just you know Firehouse stew and stuff like that. So it's never a server leguini Well, and as we were enjoying the soup the beef bouillon actually came and this looks Amazing actually it kind of reminds me of a pop roast. What pasta? I'm I'm I'm excited. I am ready to eat this bad boy right here I'm not sure how I do this because I want to try to get everything in one bite So we're gonna grab a little bit of the beef a little bit of the carrots and then a little bit of the sauce Well, the noodles and kind of just get it all on one bite. I Think this is the perfect bite size and we got some of the sauce on there I'm very excited The meat is just like a pot roast to me But what really stands out is the flavor like of the the sauce itself and you can taste the Chardonnay or the burgundy in there This is this is a very delicious dish actually I wasn't expecting to enjoy it as much as I am right now like This is a sleeper right here folks. This is a sleeper and Of course, like I said, I kept a little of the been the been yay so that you can Kind of like dip the bread into the sauce So I'm gonna actually scoop up a little bit of the meat put it on the bread kind of make a little stew sandwich, you know what I mean add some carrots Oh, yeah, get some of that nice Arjun or the juice at the bottom put it on the bread and look at that a little stew sandwich. I Would definitely get this again. So if I come back here, I probably will try the filet But I mean this is right now as it stands my go-to dish now because I liked it that much And don't forget about the Cabernet. I'm not a big wine drinker, but it's okay. It's good It's funny because I probably know more about tequila than I do wine But you can still use all of the things that I've learned at my tequila tasting at San Angelo or at the La Cava and I can use it kind of towards tasting wine No, gonna get it to breathe a little bit and watch the tears actually come down a little bit to see that fancy and Here is the creme brulee. Look at this. I'm excited. I do love creme brulee I don't know if I should break a little bit off yet Oh, look at that Perfect and a little creme brulee to you This is much too good much too good It kind of is like a perfect texture and it's got a great toasted taste. I love this amazing. I Mean, I like creme brulee, but this is just really good. I really enjoy this creme brulee here. I Don't know why but this just reminds me of a perfectly toasted marshmallow. It is so delicious though I'm trying to get every little last quite out of there kind of scrape it all But with that it's the end of the meal so I think we're gonna go hang out around the actual France Pavilion a little bit Overall, this was an amazing experience especially for the price. I mean that prefix 4950 is a really good deal with the Wine the appetizer the entree dessert and the bread service. You get a big yet. So you can't go wrong with that That was a very delicious meal But like I said before I want to explore around the France Pavilion a little bit They have a lot going on over here and soon they're gonna have their own ride and that's gonna make it ten times better In fact speaking of it having its own ride. I was gonna use a restroom in there But instead I'm gonna use the restrooms. That's back at ratatouille who let the area ratatouille They have the restrooms open and I'm pretty sure the man himself Remi is actually out kind of like hanging out. Oh Yeah, there he is. There's Remi ready topiary ready for his ratatouille debut opening 2021 This is gonna be such an amazing attraction and I definitely think it needed it over here in the world showcase The whole reason that this whole entire back street opened up is so that they actually had a restroom because they closed the restrooms at Morocco and this is gonna be the main restrooms for the Pavilion So it's excited to just see this it's been here for a while But I wanted to come and just kind of walk down it and I can join it a little bit. I like the music too This will also be the first time you get this close to see the flower display over here Because any of the years before for flower and garden festival the only place that you can see it is walking over there By the International Gateway, so it's nice to see it right here I wish that they would have like a walkway that you could walk down there. Can you imagine just exploring down there They have the boat parked here Look at that.  I love it and this guy over here. It's getting some food Yeah, I see you. Oh, what does he got there? Oh lordy? Now I want to walk around and enjoy some of the shops and even check out maybe the show like I said I think Beauty and the Beast is running right now, but it does actually switch to the actual Frayette show I'm not sure what time though Looks like the Beauty and the Beast sing-along is still happening and the depressions of France doesn't start until 6 30 So during the day they had the sing-along and then after 6 30 is when they switch over to the actual Frayette's like Preview or movie and I don't know might as well wait three minutes and check out the sing-along I know actually it looks like we're heading in right now one minute to go to the Beauty and the Beast sing-along Oh, I love all of the different costumes they have in here This is really awesome French storytelling on stage and screen This is Cinderella right here This is a really cool Exhibit the Phantom of the Opera Wow, I didn't even know this was in here and then over here they have Beauty and the Beast Well, look at this is pots over there I'm really really like this We must get going though. We don't want to be late for the show Every day like the one before Little town people Walking up to Yes, to be our guest put our service to the test It was actually really fun I think it was only one singing though and I didn't put much in because it didn't come out good on camera like you really can't record the screen it kind of has those lines in it and also Don't judge me on my thinking and We exit into the gift shop and the bakery which is also good because I wanted to get maybe a coffee Depending on the line since the show just got let out. It's probably very busy over here But they have some amazing like items in there They've got the espresso they've got the cappuccino and then tons and tons of different bakery items But it is a pretty long line. So I think we're gonna skip it for today I've come here quite often. I do know another spot. I want to check out though I came back out to the front of the pavilion because I wanted to show you another spot where I can get some coffee And that's right here at the creep stand. They actually serve cafe espresso and then also cappuccino So you can actually get it without waiting in the big line If that's all you're looking for is some coffee and that's probably what I'm gonna do You can also get a crepe I know I'm a little full but a crepe sounds pretty phenomenal right now So I might get a coffee and a crepe coffee and a crepe. I like the sound of that As you can see they have tons of different types of crepes crepes with ice cream Oh, a homemade hazelnut spread that sounds pretty good And then there's the coffee you can even get the Kronenberger beer here as well But I just went with the hazelnut crepe and a little espresso coffee and a crepe. I Was very intrigued on the sign when it said Hand-made hazelnut like cream. So basically they have house-made Nutella. So first I'm gonna try the crepe That's good. Oh, yeah. Oh Yeah, that's the good stuff right there very delicious. I really like this and the Nutella kind of just tastes like Nutella I mean, it's just a hazelnut spread, but they make it themselves and it's not Nutella They just do a good job and I haven't tried my espresso yet That's just espresso. I like how they have it in this little composable cup. Equal choice And with my espresso, I think I'm gonna call it a day here. Hope you guys enjoyed the video I enjoyed making it. It was so much fun. I'm not sure what I have left to do I know probably Morocco is gonna be next China doesn't have any Sit-down restaurants, but I might do the quick service like the nine dragons that's not open at the moment so I might do their quick service and then Oh, the Rosencrown is temporary closed for a refurbishment on the dining room, so Yeah, I don't know what we're gonna do next, but we'll figure it out. I also think a Character cavocates on its way. So we'll see you next time. Bye Well, would you look at that? Hi, Bell. I just sang to you. Oh, thank you


My name is Ralph. I'm going to present a Kind of evening and night project of mine to you, which we call all mogo we're trying to design a Something like a cryptographically secure social network that can also be used as a private data storage that can be used as a chat system and That's designed for long-term archiving If there's an if there are any questions, please don't don't hesitate to interrupt Unfortunately, I'm not going to do a demo in the presentation. I can show you some of the prototypes that we have After the after the presentation, but I didn't feel it was it was right to show it here on stage already So who who is all mogo? It's basically a friend of mine and me the right ones me Ali is an Entrepreneur who sold his first software company end of the 90s and That was in in he was actually designing a hospital information system so he was handling clinical information and Sold that to a number of hospitals and then sold his company And has now other projects on his agenda and I'm in my public life I'm a I Lead a team of embedded software engineers and one of the large companies But when the kids are in bed, I'm trying to work on that project. Additionally, we have a few designers and Programmers with us that that help us implementing everything. But as I said, it's in an early stage So what do we aim at with all mogo? one thing that's on our agenda is to really put back the The users in control of their data. I don't know if you've been at the Privacy international talk. I I seen the speaker here. I think in the in the in the audience actually That was a very interesting talk about how companies exploit your data We would like to provide a platform where you can actually see what kind of data is visible by whom so that's That's actually the second point and provide a system where everybody can opt in or opt out in the usage of personalized data And offer transparent feedback on who can see what kind of data and That brings me to the other point. It's I don't think it it makes total sense to keep Everything in private but the border between Private life and public life should be clearly delineated So if I don't care in a certain circumstance about other people seeing my data or using my data That's fine. It's just about me knowing who is going to be acting on on my data Should be user friendly should have open interfaces to make the access to data and the administration of access rights easy One of the business aspects of it is that we that we want to offer companies a way of storing personalized data in accordance with the upcoming Legislation that means we're trying to store personalized data as your data So if a company we offer an interface that if a company acquires data that's Personally belonging to you according to the legislation It will be stored as your data and you can ultimately control who has access the company can give itself access to it while storing it but you can withdraw at any time the access to that data set and To provide a universal distributed data storage system With maximum security and resilience to attacks So what would interest me in the end is if the ideas I'm going to present you if if you think these ideas are valid and If if if you have maybe some some opinion on on what we're doing So let me introduce a little bit the problem setting I guess that's clear to everybody here But I still would like to elaborate a little bit more on what we think the problem is So first problem do we actually have control over our digital self and I'm not talking about the data that Maybe your car collects while you're driving, but actually the data you think you're in control of so that's me And if I want to share something pictures anything texts messages with my friends then personally Even as a technical expert I would think okay the data I send it to somebody so this somebody should be able to see it But usually I think I think most people don't really recognize that the data is also seen by others especially by the Infrastructure that you're using so obviously if you share some images via some system like Facebook or even by email or anything the infrastructure is a vital part of it And most people that are not so technically deep into the topic Don't recognize that that's that's one of the problem that to solve that There's a very simple prerequisite which would be that If you share your data with somebody you put trust in that person and that's okay You trust persons because you know them or you think they they are friends and they can misuse that trust or they can fulfill that trust That is something that we have been in the evolution be be like willing to learn how to cope with that But the problem is that the infrastructure you shouldn't be you shouldn't be forced to trust the infrastructure The infrastructure should actually prove that it's that it's secure and one very simple thing to do of course is in this case Complete client-side encryption if you send an encrypted email doesn't matter what the infrastructure does with it It will just be visible by the recipient at least if you can if you can trust the cryptographic algorithms other measures would be possible you could also scramble your data in some way or Make small packages of large data sets if you even worry about the fact that the size of the data could reveal something about the content of the data Apparently client-side encryption is something very simple to do but it's something seldomly done in in in large-scale systems for example, these these are the top 10 security risks in cloud computing as determined by a study from the European European network and information Security agency which you can download from there from their page actually the report and of these top 10 Issues in cloud computing which is loss of governance because the service providers in in charge of the security Lock in because you use proprietary systems that you can't where you can't move your data freely around Isolation failure that some other people can actually look at your data and things like that of all these 10 issues At least these four that I marked in orange are the ones that can be completely solved by client-side encryption while the other four that I marked are significantly reduced Just if you do encryption on the client side, which is actually a very simple thing to do in my opinion Just keep this this this in mind The other thing that normal users struggle with an I occasionally struggle with is if you do client-side encryption and let's say you use GPG or any kind of encryption system for your emailing It's still complicated. I mean definitely you have to use a passphrase for your private key That's that's obvious because otherwise the private key will be Very very vulnerable if you use the passphrase Well, I have forgotten mine quite a few times. I don't know how you cope with it. Some people write it down It's not actually the best thing to do, right? The other thing is that many people use a key that's valid for an indefinite amount of time. That's also not something Something something reasonable to do Key renewal and key revocation should be an essential part of the system these systems support it But in fact, I don't think many people have been using it And then if if you implement the cryptographic system, of course There's all these cryptographic pitfalls that you might step in where you have things that you didn't consider or that might not have been Publicly known at the time when you design the system, which is should you use authenticated encryption? I guess everybody uses authenticated encryption nowadays, although GPG does an individual signature afterwards You should also not you should also if possible not use a single single key pair for signing and encryption because you might be Vulnerable to some kind of oracle attacks and all these things that the the end user shouldn't actually be worrying about So one thing we try to do we try to think is there an alternative to passphrases especially if you want to distribute your private key among many devices and You want to still keep it safe on many devices and if you want to be able to employ an infrastructure to actually exchange it Between these devices and an infrastructure other than copying it on a USB stick and doing it yourself One of the ideas that we that we followed is well You could still you could split up the information in in your key in two parts by using If you have it available a cryptographically secure random number sequence If you would Soar that you would get basically two two sequences one is the original Sequence of random numbers. The other one is just the private key Exhausted by these random numbers if the random number sequence is unique and is Cryptographically secure then of course you you destroyed the information in Each single part of these these these results there so you could Share one part Safely if the other part is not known so if you keep one part on your system and you send out the other one To an infrastructure that keeps track of it That could help in reducing The the passphrase problem because the second system could then do some kind of Authentication against the password or passphrase of yours and if you actually lose that you would still be able to recover the key I know there are other mechanisms of key recovery if if you shared the key or if you shared information about the key between Between many persons But that's not the approach we would like to take And of course if if you're designing a client for the average user then the client system should should take care of all the complicated things like Renew intervals keeping track of your old keys to be able to restore the old encrypted information and also use every now and then modified algorithms with different key lengths with Updated block lengths and and and so on Another another problem that most people I don't think are not aware of is that encryption alone doesn't suffice to take Control of your your private data. Let's assume. I've taken an image And I would like to share that what what do I normally do? Maybe I send it by email to a friend of mine Maybe I send it via chat system Maybe I publish it even on the social network if I think that that image can be seen by everybody I don't care if if Facebook runs its algorithms against that image I can be free to share it and then maybe I didn't switch off the the iCloud synchronization And it's even it's even copied to another server the the problem with that is Normally, I would like if this is happening Singularly, I would maybe remember okay with whom I shared that information But normally I would say that people are not really in control because the data They're actually sharing is copied arbitrarily if you send an email. It's copied as an attachment if You if you send it by the chat system is copied into the chat system is copied to iCloud It's copied everywhere because it's digital information and copying is cheap So once you send it out actually that access has been granted you have no real record of The fact that you granted somebody access to that image to that particular image You cannot withdraw that access right because that information has already been sent to somebody else and So I would I would call it that the process of sharing is actually completely out of control Because we arbitrarily copy data when I think about life in my In my in the business. I'm doing during daytime then is it's the same thing people copy things on network drives They copied in different versions then they send it via email They put it on the cloud system and so on and so forth and nobody actually has track of where this information is being distributed So my opinion is that if you want to properly Bring data governance back to the owner of these data sets You you would have to first of all design a system where you can Grant and withdraw access rights, of course that that's clear if somebody has read access to your data This person is free to to download your data and then distribute it again It might not be legal if it's a company But of course you cannot prevent somebody from doing that But you could at least archive the fact that you gave somebody access and if that person hasn't access it yet Withdrawing the access would also suffice to make sure that data is not being distributed out of your control The second point is all these access rights with whom you shared information They need to be made transparent to the owner of the data, which is you If you want to achieve that then The access rights they should be connected to the data object and the data object needs to be a Singularity it shouldn't be copied. There should be a unique ID describing that data object a unique URL actually and you shouldn't share it by I called it sharing by value You should share it by reference actually you should just share that document URL There's a number of of systems out there Let's say for example mega that provides something like that They provide a cloud storage system, which is client-side encrypted and you can share URLs to the to the to the data stored in there Still The system I'm describing here is a little bit different in that it's not only designed to share large large data objects And the last point I already mentioned with the withdrawal of access rights Data obviously will not be deleted by anybody who copied it But it might state the fact that usage of this data from that point on might be illegal, which might be An advantage if if you're talking about data That was provided by by a company or used by a company That brings me to something that has been mentioned all over the conference as well The a new legislation that will be active from May next year. I think The European General Data Protection Rules as opposed to the US where the equivalence of these rules. I think had been Cancelled by the Trump administration in Europe. This will this will become the become law first thing is a right to be forgotten You you have the right if this is data. That's personally assigned to you. You have the right to request its deletion You should you you also have the right to request your data from a company in In a readable format. So not just the binaries actually it stated that you should be able to get it in a human readable form This is the the right to data portability. That's mentioned here on the slide Systems should be designed that they protect data By design and by default there should be no hidden Secret trap doors that you that you have to enable in order to to to secure a data They should be as a default setting Beactive and Actually, there will be I don't know if in practice, but in theory high fines will be that will be assigned to Companies that not that not that do not comply to these rules so that can be up to 4% of the annual turnover Which is I think a significant amount so again Before I I get into the system in more detail our vision would be that there is an open platform for all of your data where Data maybe even from your car is just not going to a company server, but it's actually going to to to the system That we call all logo which should be an open platform Should be independent of its source if you have a variable It shouldn't send the data to the company that produced a variable It should actually send the data to you or to a system where you can administer this data This platform should should allow you to share and also withdraw The rights to to for somebody else to read it so that you can regain The power over your data It should provide an owner URL for each data element made be just a GPS location From your GPS tracker made be an email made be an image or a complete movie And the system should be designed again With high security and high resilience against the text I'm not speaking about DDS or something like that which is clear That you should have some resilience against it But really a system where an attacker would have to gain control over most parts of the system to actually gain useful information Okay, so let's talk a bit about the the the concepts that we designed into the system One core concept is what we call mogos or mogo is a Artificial word, but we we like the idea about each data man being called a mogo and living in the in the all mogo So an encrypted data entity made be smaller large is called mogo And it can be as I said a picture or document could be a small comment on somebody else's mogo Which would then actually comprise it a chat or some kind of feedback system as you know it from from social networks It could be personalized data of the user In his role as owner or in her role of as owner that was created by a third party For example, as I said GPS tracking or the like Or it could just be an empty container where you like to collect other mogos in there Each mogo has a unique URL called the mogo ID Mogos are invariant And they're encrypted using the standard hybrid encryption scheme Why are they invariant? Think about a system where you would actually like to share your personal data share it with companies Maybe to gain some benefits or anything else If you want to have somebody relying on the data that you store there, you shouldn't be able to change it You should be able to delete it. You should be able to store it You should be able to deliver a new version But a single version at a single point in time should be immutable invariant And the general structure would be that mogos can link to other mogos You could call that child mogos, but actually it's not building a hierarchy It's just a directed a directed graph which potentially is cyclic So you have mogos that link to other mogos and actually the the process of today's Sending around data would just be the process of sharing this mogos somebody the process of commenting or sending a video reply or Posting a comment on a social network site that would just map to a new link from one mogo to another mogo As is the case with hybrid encryption with with standard hybrid encryption schemes and not Not I'm not speaking about those multi-user public-private key systems where you actually just need a Single key for encryption, but I'm talking about the standard hybrid encryption schemes Each user that may access a mogo, which is encrypted Of course need its own version of the encrypted symmetric key that was used for the hybrid encryption And that's the point I mentioned the space where all mogos live is called all mogo all right Why do we think this is kind of a Novel idea or novel aspect to what what is out there on the market? I think the novelty is if you if you think about Data just being connected as a directed graph You can map many of the current applications to this kind of data structure a private a File system that you store in And the private network storage a file system is a hierarchy a hierarchy is a subset of a directed graph So you can map the file system to all mogo you can just store the complete file system to all mogo, but then You you can also make sure that only you have access to that So that would be your private cloud if you if you may a private data storage consists of mogos only accessible by one user That's you If you want to share it you can just Append the number of Encrypted keys for other users and only those who have a key of course can access the data If you think about a chat system a chat system in the standard WhatsApp or messenger case. It's just one message after the other that could be a parent mogo and just Different child mogos underneath that So in the in the prototype system that we have as an app You just choose how to how to display for example such a mogo hierarchy If you say, ah, this is a chat Then you just tell the system to display it in the typical chat form if you if you say it's not It's not a chat It's actually a gallery of images that I created then it should be displayed as a gallery of images Doesn't doesn't matter for the application It's just how you want to look at it if you think about a chat in the reddit Sense where you can actually comment on comments and then a comment on comments further up in the hierarchy that can also be Realized with that kind of linkage And if you think about social network there you normally post something and people give their feedback that's also easy to store in that kind of system and When you think about designing a user interface for that, I know I'm not going to show it here in the presentation I'm happy to share the ideas of the user interface with you after the talk because actually the user interface is currently not connected to the Cryptographically secure core of a mogo. It's just connected to a test server just to see how we can how we can Realize the user interactions the user interactions are very simple You want to share withdraw shares or link mode of mogos to other links and you can actually Fulfill all these these use cases that I that I shown on this slide. So you just need to Slide your mogo on your app to to a person and it'll be shared with that person. You can just Remove a person from a mogo and it will not be shared any longer with that person So that's a very very easy very easy interaction system Okay Let's talk a bit about the programmatic Structure, I know it might not be readable that well, but I'm going through it So what are the components of that system? So that's the person of course who? knows but may also occasionally forget his or her Pathphrase and This person is allowed to access parts of the omogo though the parts where he actually has or she has in this case It's me Has the the appropriate appropriate rights then you have the different user interface user device devices and user devices You can store a device dependent version of the private key we I've shown this Method of splitting the private key into several parts You could do that Individually for each device that you have it would still resemble the same private key but if somebody steals the device and tries to Reconstruct the private key you could explicitly in the system Withdraw the access rights for that single device that you have here So it stores the device dependent version or part of the private key. It may also contain a cache of downloaded mogus for Performance reasons and then you have three types of servers that don't have to be hosted by By us they could be hosted by anybody one is the actual authorization server where all the profiles and Second parts of the keys are stored This one is responsible for authentication of the user because the As I said if you split the private key and distributed over the network infrastructure, you can't Use that private key to actually certify or authenticate against the system So you need to do another authentication process We have the the indexing server which is the directory structure Where all the links are stored the actual data content is not being stored But the index server contains all the URLs for all the mogus and if you want to access the actual data set You get a small small file from the index server That just tells you from which of the storage servers you need to recover what part of of the file So we also additionally split a file in several packets distribute these packets over different different storage Servers and even use a different ID on the storage service So you'll have a you'll have a certificate for all for each storage server that you're actually accessing that Certificate is not linked to your actual identity So in the end if somebody gets control over the of the storage server That person will not be able to reconstruct what kind of data We actually own there and would not be able to derive from the amount of data or the all Any kind of metadata or the the size of individual files what types these files actually contain So on the index server you reference a mogu using a URL that's composed of the index server name and a UUID for the mogu nothing more And what is stored with each mogu is a timestamp so that can actually order them in in consecutive order and the ownership Is marked inside what's possible is that you store additional metadata? But we're not quite sure about how far we go So if you put file name in there that would be vulnerable, I guess Yeah, but if you if you think it's it's it's not a problem you could add this So we have additional metadata support if needed Especially with file names you would I have to you would like to sort after the file name as well So then it needs to be indexed on the database for retrieval and that makes it so it's pretty much Open then if you open that kind of metadata To to to the server if somebody would gain control of that server these names would be visible They would not be transferred necessarily, but they would be visible on the server So so one point that we also try to make is we try to design a system where the Provider of the services doesn't know doesn't know anything about the data being stored if you store file names It's an issue. We're internally discussing actually Okay, the authentication protocol Just a quick wrap up. That's a variant a simplified variant of Kerberos Where you send an encrypted authentication request that contains your username and password Which is encrypted by a key that you know from the so basically with the certificate You got from the authentication server. Of course, that's not safe. That's only safe if you pin The root certificate for your infrastructure. Otherwise, you'd be Probably experiencing man in the middle of text What you get as a response is The second part of your private key in clear text and then an encrypted session key encrypted with your public certificate and an encrypted session certificate that states all the Identities under which you're known to the indexing server So the indexing server also doesn't know your new user name It just knows a number of identities that own a number of mogos and from the authentication server You just get a certificate stating which identities you are allowed to see Okay So that's another point that I'll quickly mention the authentication server Knows your nose and uses your username. It maps that username to a number of identities And different identities can be used for different purposes if you think the information is not so Neat doesn't have to be so secure and you'd like to like to share with a whole bunch of people you could also think about giving a number of people the same private public key pair Which reduces cryptographic Security quite a bit, but if it's a trustworthy group then might be a possibility. You still have device and person independent or person dependent Private key parts because you split it in different ways using different one-time pets The indexing server just uses the identities that have been given by the authentication server It doesn't really have to verify that you're allowed to access Mogos it needs to verify that you're allowed to Store new mogos or that you're allowed to delete mogos, but the actual content is still encrypted so even if you gain access to the indexing server you wouldn't be able to read out information and Last not least the storage server uses again other identities the idea behind that is The storage will actually create most of the Cost in the system because that's the actual data being stored So what we are thinking about is handing out like one-time tickets. So for example, I Request an identity a certificate for let's say 50 terabytes over 10 years I pay that in a single sum and for 10 years that amount of data will be stored there And if I don't extend that contract, it'll just be deleted. Nobody can use it anyways And with these with these identities, I just I just mark my right to store data on the storage server I don't give any connection to who actually stored data there and what kind of data is that? So the storage server doesn't know to which mogos this data actually belongs Yeah, that's just the storage protocol. I think I already explained it so in the beginning you you authenticate against the authentication server if You want to store for example a larger file such as a movie you would you would Split that in different parts that could potentially go to different storage server using different storage identities and you would Authenticate yourself against the storage server using your storage identity would store the data packets you would receive a URL How you can retrieve the data from the storage server that URL is actually not protected So anybody could read that URL although it doesn't contain Useful data because everything is encrypted and then you would authenticate against the index server and tell the index server Okay, here's a new mogo. It's distributed on that in that URL And this information where the data is actually being distributed. That's also encrypted So the indexing server doesn't know anything about where the data is stored in the end You can spread data over several storage servers these servers do not have to be hosted by us You could store them you could store your data on your private infrastructure if you want you would just have to Open up a port on one of your servers and and let the the client software do the rest for you and accept packets from from from your identity We we have a strict separation between the structure of your data. So Who are you connected with? How are the mogos linked to each other and what kind of data is actually stored in them? and The service operate as I said independent of each other Let's just talk a little bit about a resilience to a tax in such a system If we assume the encryption state of the art and we can actually because we're not using a fixed encryption algorithm That that's all configurable and changeable over time Assuming that the encryption is state of the art then if Somebody has total control of one of these servers This person could obviously always harm you in a sense that this person could delete data on the server You could if you have physical access to the server you could just demolish it if you have Virtual access to the server you could still delete hard drives or anything, but the adversary will not be able to to Decrypt any of your data stored in there If an adversary has control of a total control of one of the servers this adversary will not will not be able to decrypt It will not harm your security or privacy. It will harm the safety of your data Accidental exposition of memory data, which is probably one of the most common security leakages If if that happens you would have to have first of all the the key stored on the end user device and then by accident a Basically The memory data of the other part of the encrypted key and you would have to know that these belong together If this is the case you could restore the private key and then you could probably If you also know the the password of the user you could authenticate against against the system If an end user device is being stolen you could just Disallow access and you could delete the second part of the private key and so the the part stored on the device would be rendered And if somebody controls the indexing and the authentication and the storage server not the authentication server That would be considered uncritical Yeah, but end user device and authentication server that would render the system Vulnerable that's a point where we are working on But it's clear one one part of the system needs to be controlled a little bit better than the others another concept before I Rep up the presentation another concept that we have is the concept of agents So assume what I talked about now is sharing data with persons But sometimes we want to share data with the system may be a company or may be a system that actually provides for example Full text indexing for your documents if you want to do a full text search And still a safe full text search you would require to have an index and this indexing process Might take too long to be executed on your end user device. That's why we introduce the concept of Agents which are technical users that can get access to your data if you share your data with them What you could do with that if you still want to keep your old Facebook accounts and you would still would like to post occasionally on Facebook But you have data stored in all mogul what you could do is you just set up a Facebook agent that uses the graph API to publish data in your name and you could Actually share One of your moguls with that agent this agent would publish it if you want and you would still see that There is information that you shared with Facebook So if you have all of your images in the system in in all mogul you could do a search With whom did I share any anything with this kind of? Social social network and you would get an answer to that question And I think with a graph API it should also be possible to even delete a post If you withdraw the access to the agent so that could be to be synchronized not all of the Social network or messaging system support that but at least posting should not be a problem and keeping Like the information in one place seeing with whom did you share that information that would still that would still be possible Okay, some some details on the implementation What we've written up to now is written in Scala, which is my favorite language Although coming from the embedded world. I like to code Functionally in my private time. We're using for all the communication infrastructure. We're using a car And for database access we're using slick the encryption is provided by the standard Java cryptography Architecture which gives rise to a number of pitfalls. I know that But we we created our own wrappers to allow Proper initialization and and and things like that The web protocols for the client. They're based on The jason web signature and web encryption protocols And the client software is available as a as a jar that you could that you could use to access The the backend service and the client lip are pretty much in an alpha version If anybody's interested I can share information Information on that the app is under development. I actually wanted to present you the app, but unfortunately our app developers wife just got her baby a few weeks too early and he didn't have time to finish it in Time for the conference here And we just started developing Agents for Facebook and and also incoming mails that could be stored in all logo as well So there's more to come by the end of October. Hopefully if if you like the ideas that that I presented Then just just just contact me. We're happy to to to we have others Joining us and Yeah, I'm open to your questions if there's any. Thanks a lot Yes, please So the question is is the system fully open source right now, it's not We're not sure if it will be My idea would be to share it at some point when we are more confident on on how how the things work Especially because we would like to have that system for the average user available and and and and spread But I still need to discuss that issue with my business partner the company as Founded last week actually is a profit company It aims at providing these services for companies as well So we what we would like to have is a system that's free of charge to use for everybody But we'd also like to distribute that system inside companies to do Like their internal data exchange because I think there's a lot of things Going on in the industry that are Actually wrong like sharing data over network drives copying it via email and so on that's that's what I discovered my daily life And that's something we'd like to Exploit if you may if you want to say so further questions. Yes, please That's okay, so the the point was that how can you trust us if it's not open source and I fully agree With that with that point actually So what we'd like to if if there's if there's an interest in the community I would like to give out parts of it by now And when the time is right, I would like to open it up because I I fully understand that that's available point. Yeah Thank you. Yes, please Okay, so the question is how would that my company make money and the the one answer I already gave was we were trying to to aim at the Business area selling it as an own infrastructure to businesses The other way of making money would only be possible. I think by selling storage space So if if you look at the if you look at mega for example Which is I guess also not open source They charge quite a significant amount of money for storing data on their service and Ultimately, that would probably be the case What I can imagine is that if you share it with companies and companies actually currently make money with your data that this This money is then given back to you because in this system you could be following The usage of data for different purposes if you give data that you hand out your data to a company why not Gaining something from it and may just be that the storage is is for free then Yes, please Okay, so the question is there a way of storing data on your Personal servers that are then accessible through the system, right? and the way to do that would be to install the the storage server component on your private infrastructure and Then create just a single certificate with which you can access that storage server and and add that certificate to your Profile to your encrypted profile on the authentication server Then the software would contact that storage server of yours to store data on it. Okay Then share Yes But in this case if you want to share an account you're sharing a public private key pair and what you're ultimately Losing is The knowledge of who actually stored something there It'll just be that single identity, but that's possible. We distribute the private key over different devices using different One-time pads you could also spread it to different users Using different one-time pads so that every user can have access of that key But again, that's like it saves you some time to to store all the encryption information Because you have to store fewer keys that have been encrypted But it compromises security a little bit. Okay. Thank you so much and thanks for your advice. Thank you