Good evening and welcome back to our continuing coverage of town meeting 2019. I'm Lauren Glendavidian here for channel 17 town meeting television And tonight we're speaking with two of the candidates who are running for two different seats in South Burlington for the city council We have Tim Barrett who is running for the two three-year term He is actually opposed by Frank Davis who is not here this evening And so because our two-year term candidate Dave Kaufman is unopposed. We thought we'd have them here together So you're not running against each other just want to remind everybody But you are both currently incumbents serving on the city council. That's right.  Yes Or we're given Pat now X since last May. Yes So why don't we start with you and ask you why you're running for this seat now and what qualifies you Dave Okay. Well, it's actually fairly simple When we had that most unfortunate situation of a vacancy on the city council Helen came to me and I've known Helen for 40 years and And Tom I know as well We're both on faculty at UVM and we've done some collaboration together They must have talked and probably talked with Tim and with Megan as well and came to me and said, what do you think? Actually, they didn't phrase it that way. They said guess what and I Thought about it, but realized that it would be a great opportunity to To get reengaged with the active Work of the city government. So I said sure and it's been very enjoyable. I think we've got a great council five really Excellent excellent people. We make good decisions. We listen. Well we we do good things for the city and so it's been a lot of fun and it's not like I haven't had time in in government before having served five terms in the legislature representing South Burlington and Then a founding member of the board of the cans recreation arena's Dorset Park skating Association 20 something years ago And so I'm running again because it's it's a great group. We've got a really strong city government right now We can do good things going forward. Thank you so much. I appreciate it Tim Barrett tell us why you're running for reelection for the three-year term because I had so much fun here three years ago with with Diane Meyerhoff right and that Discussion that we had so I'm a 26-plus year resident in South Burlington My wife Kate just retired from the Heinzberg Education District I've been at IBM slash global foundries since 1981 straight out of school I have a bachelor in science and electrical engineering and I've been working there For a long time and officially I'm an IBM retiree. I think I was when I was here last time And I have a resume of time that I've spent working with the city I was on the library board of trustees for six years and then I was on the development review board for about four and a half And last year I was chair So it was a natural transition to and at that time I was really concerned about some developments going on in city center And especially with the schools So I decided to jump into that that race and I was fortunate enough to capture enough votes from the public to Become the three-year city councilor and it's been a really interesting three years I would never have assumed that that you could spend that much time in meetings in in local government But you can you know and and when you come down to the stipend you're probably paid about 32 cents an hour So that's not why you're doing it Actually, so the reason I'm doing this is because I I do care about the city a lot And I try to show that in a lot of different ways from painting the underpass with cement paint that V Trans gave me to cover up the graffiti on Feral Street and Dorset Street, right to to making sure that employees of the city Understand what their employee assistance program is I've tried to make sure that people know that I do care about the people that work for the city and for the residents themselves So and in this race you are faced with by an opponent Frank Davis. Yes, just to clarify again for our viewers We're talking with two of the candidates for South Burlington City Council Tim Barrett is running for the three-year term Frank Davis is running against him He's not here tonight and Dave Kaufman is running for the two-year term You can certainly call us at 862-3966 if you have any questions. We'd love to hear them So Tim, why don't you just start with what's your position on the city budget and the ballot questions and yeah? The city budget I think represents the best compromise that this that Tom Hubbard who was here earlier You know and his crew could develop from all the costs of the city has you know health care is going up every year I think it went up between six and seven percent this year And they've had to hire three new People in the fire department in order to give some overtime relief. So if you look just at the city budget by itself I think it was a two point eight five percent increase and it was less than three percent My threshold for pain is when you get over three and I think last year when it was more like three Four five I was pining for three one and I actually voted against the budget last year But I was in the minority any of us four to one this year two eight five I was comfortable with and I think it represents a lot of good work hard work by the city to kind of Make sure that the capital improvement program Meets its expectations right as long as well as the salary growth and the the union contracts Which you can't negotiate with once they're signed right and then also health care costs So what's your view on the budget? Without without going to the taking the time to repeat I've basically echo echo what Tim had to say and and I think as I said our city management especially Tom Hubbard who was here earlier along with City manager Kevin Dorn in the various department ads done a really diligent job at putting together the best budget they can and that ensures that South Burlington Continues to have the money it needs to do what we need to do to make it a great city What's your view of the ballot questions? The ballot questions are interesting. I think you know on the on the 1% options City the city has been in desperate need for a long period of time of recreation indoor recreation facilities Recreation is one of those things that the city is charged with providing We've got a recreation department and yet for years. They've had no way to program indoor recreation in the inclement weather in winter and the schools are totally tapped out with school programs and so You know we started with an idea that we would build an indoor facility That would be a few million bucks and now we're at 12 to 15 million at Veterans Memorial Park Adjacent to the Cairns arenas, which the preliminary design is really exciting, but we have to pay for it And then there's an arts group that would like city involvement in one way or another in a new art center Which also has excellent merit it would make South Burlington a magnet for people from outside the city and bring money into the city and And then you've seen mention of a bridge over the interstate To enable pedestrians and bicyclists to get across that miserable wide stretch of the interstate Between the campus and where our new city center is my feeling is that will those funds will come predominantly from a mix of federal State and and some local funds I'm not sure ballot item is going to be relevant to them The biggest thing is our is our rec facility and we need to know what what the residents think before we can go forward with That so my position on it is I hate taxes But we do want a recreation facility. This is one way to do it. Let's see what our residents have to say Can I just ask you that overpass that's that wouldn't be improving the current one we have from staples plaza? No, this would be there's a whole new whole new overpass that would go from kind of where quarry hill residences are over into the University mall area kind of the the narrowest portion that you can get because overpasses are expensive But it would be a it would be pedestrian bikes only and it would eliminate that horrendous situation We've had forever of trying to enable people to move safely from the campus district over to where Adorcist Street area and and and I think I think that will happen within several years And it'd be exciting when it does okay, but first the question to the people are is Do you support making a charter change on these two? Yeah, and that doesn't in any way mean that the people are approving one project or another This just says can we make a charter change to potentially add a penny to our local options tax? That would then have to go to the legislature for approval And then it would have to come back to the voters for whatever project we designate So it's got it's got a ways to go and the residents will certainly have ample say before anything is finalized Tim what's your view on the charter changes? You know we you know we have you have two basic ways you can you can raise money You know within a city you do with property taxes you can do it with sales taxes or rooms and meals taxes and So when you do with property taxes, you know It really hits the homeowners first and only right but if you propose that you use a sales tax You're also taxing money that's moving through the city through retail and their hotels and restaurants and Bars and breweries and things like that So when we're talking about the types of projects that we would like to do Including a rec center, I mean these are distinct investments that we want to make for the long term for a higher quality of life within South Burlington You can't do that for free and so this is our opportunity to say we think There is this list of Projects we like to do and in order to get the money for that we would like to present it to the voter You know, would you feel okay coming to South Burlington or if you live there spending an extra one percent? You know for your restaurant meal and and actually that would make it equal to Burlington's meals tax to be quite honest So it you know people have been eating in South Burlington getting a 1% break Wow on their tax Right, so that would make it equalized, but it would bring us to an 8% sales tax which Would be I believe it'd be the first in the state So one of my concerns is that if and this is a long process right because first of all the public has to vote on it And then it has to go to legislature and be approved by both the House and the Senate and then go to Governor Scott and I did contact the governor's office and ask is this something that you would Okay or sign because I mean a while back. He was all about affordability, right? And then they responded and said this is the type of thing that that he prefers to leave up to the communities So I'm assuming that he would sign that if it got that far And then it comes back like Helen said earlier that that then we'd have to get approval from the public on those distinct projects For which this money was to be spent so that voters get two chances to vote on this right And then when it comes time to actually raise the money, we could pick and choose a city council What which tax we want to raise right? Is it the 1% rooms and meals only or just the 1% sales tax and Play with it so we could meet whatever the cost is so I support going to the voters for that because I think it represents the the type of Investment that we want to make long term for the city indoor rec is really badly needed and we had several people tell us at the meetings That it's a facility that could be utilized by people not just in South Burlington But by other groups as well and they would be willing to pay for that that time. Well, it's like the hockey arena, right? I mean people it's a skating arena. We allow figure skaters to sorry The skating arena it's utilized by it's regional. It's a regional asset. It is it's it's tremendous regional asset And with that with the recreation facility if you think about it because it would have basketball and any knitted sport It would be able to be converted It's gonna have an indoor we'd have an indoor turf field to have a small fitness area but also have a walking track on the second on the second deck and that means there is really No resident to South Burlington that can't make use of it To stay, you know physically in better shape and have a good time and that that's that's really neat And and as Tim said we really need it badly neither of us suggest the rental car tax Did you want us to talk about that? Yeah, let's talk about well just point five percent if did that was that clear in your previous one Yeah, half a percent and the reality of that is the majority of the rental cars come out of the airport they drive on our roads our roads are As we all know are not in great shape. They're not in great shape in any community statewide after the winters that we've had in the past couple of years and There's really, you know, no reason that for for that little bit which I think helped me Tim What's the what's the annual contribution of a half a percent? I think they were estimating there could be like a hundred and twenty found I mean that that would go directly towards road maintenance and we certainly could use that So I think we'll see again. We'll see what the residents have to say about that Tom Hubbard said you're spending about six seventy five right now on road maintenance and it's projected You need about a million a year to maintain your roads Just drive around here and you'll see that all these cities need about a million a year to take care of the potholes, right? I think given given the weather that we've seen the last couple of years and that from all long-term projections from weather experts is likely to continue Overall locally and statewide we got to come up with some magic to figure out how to how to better Save the roads So Tim do you support that as well the tax on the rental cars the half percent? I think it's it's worth trying for yeah You know the it would it would levy this extra a hundred and you know some odd thousand dollars and and And it's another one of these taxes that is sort of tucked in and around South Burlington either You know on Wilson Road Shelburne Road or at the airport So and a half percent is is a very small amount I want to just remind our viewers that we're speaking with candidates for the three-year and the two-year term for the city council in South Burlington Tim Barrett is running for the three-year term He's opposed by Frank Davis who is not here with us tonight and Dave Kaufman is running for the two-year term And he is unopposed and both Tim and Dave are incumbents So do you think I'll start with you Tim Do you think that you'd like South Burlington to have more control over the decisions that the airport makes? Well, we of course would love that The airport first of all let me just say right that I think that the counselors pretty we all agree that the BIA is An important economic asset in Chittenden County and and all of northern Vermont, right? I mean it it generates the ability to travel To Boston and other points and we need not to Boston Sorry, but but to all those cities right that that represent hubs to get Vermonters to other places in the country They need to go so I think we understand it and and the funny thing is that when I was here three years ago I had no inkling about how much controversy that the airport is going to inject in the city council for the following year and a Lot of that had to do with the noise exposure maps the decibel lines the F-35 noise, right? And the fact that you know the the city joined the amicus brief right in the F-35 lawsuit So we would love to see some change in Governance that gives the surrounding towns the ability to have a true voting voice as opposed to just an advisory voice And we do have a seat on the on the Commission and also on the sound committee and but they don't really represent any power You know it's a it's a long-term issue that needs to be solved by people committed to trying to understand How to best get the local communities to be represented with without hurting the asset, right? But also keeping in mind that we've already knocked down over 200 homes in the Chamber of Laborhood And those were really affordable homes that shinnon County can't do without because we have a real darth of affordable housing, right? So we would love to be able to to make sure that you know the that the noise exposure maps We're hoping that the new one that comes out in April with the F-35 Modeling doesn't push those lines, you know out further to make more homes, you know possibly be purchased by the FAA What do we see? What's your opinion on this question? Well echoing what Tim said and we generally do have the same View of viewpoint on most of our issues. I Hadn't realized it actually until Tom Chitton and brought it to my attention earlier this this last year Was that I actually chaired a study committee in the mid-1980s to regionalize the airport obviously that that never went anywhere, but I would I would certainly be happier if we had a broader governor into the airport But we don't Helen does a great job representing us on the airport commission We have our say as best we can and I think it'd be wonderful if some Something could change in that operating format into the future I mean if you think about it the airports in South Burlington Burlington controls it that just you know all the way back from almost a hundred years now Doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Is there any prospect to I mean what would be the way forward to change the governance? Well, the various communities that surround the airport would have to agree when Uski Williston South Burlington who else? Well Burlington would have to agree Burlington would have to agree governance first of all I think that'd be receptive to that and right now. We're not there So we'll have to we'll have to wait and see in the meantime We make our best cases and do the best we can and and as Tim said the airport is a critical resource to the to the region And we just want to see it operate as efficiently as possible to serve the needs of the of the flyers So this this next question has to do with them interim zoning bylaws in response to development of the southeast quadrant I remember I think it was the southeast quadrant that we South Burlington decided to set aside for open space and Kind of plan development careful development So are you satisfied with the development that's going on in that region and also in the city as a whole? I guess I would say well hey you gotta look at you look at the city as a whole overall looking back on many years Generally broad statement. I've been relatively satisfied with the development in South Burlington There are few spots where I'd like to think I wish we hadn't have done that But looking ahead the pressures on development were increasing fairly significantly and the southeast quadrant is the area of the city that is targeted to preserve more open space and And we felt as a council With tremendous input from the residents residents in many many locations throughout the city But obviously in the immediate area of the southeast quadrant that we needed to take a harder look and make sure that what we were Planning for the future was in in lockstep with our comprehensive plan and that indeed We were going to not get 15 years down the road and say oh my god what a mess we've made And so I think the interim zoning as I think I said in something I wrote Was something that was favored by many many people and not really and not vilified by anybody including the developers They weren't happy with it, but it wasn't like oh my god You're gonna ruin our ruin our economic futures, and we put a tight nine-month time frame on it and From what I what I know from talking with well Tim chairs one of the committees you do right you there I was the interim chair and Alan Strong who's who's the associate dean in my school at the University? Chairs the open spaces committee and you know the intent is to get this work done in nine months and have a better plan going going forward You know the irony is if you think way way back the biggest mess ups So we were allowed to we allowed Shelburne Road and Williston Road to develop the way they did We'd never ever do something like that again So you know you look at those and look at the rest of the city and we haven't done badly and the city center The city center district and the new community center is is something that I think is fabulous. I think People forever have said why doesn't South Berlin can have a real town well now we will and I think that's the beginning of something really good And it'll be a mixed-use area affordable housing market value housing Commercial retail the new community center of the park is going to be terrific So I think interim zoning was needed right now and hopefully we can stay on schedule So Tim can you describe to us what that interim zoning plan means in the southeast quadrant? Can you draw a picture of it for us? Well, so There so from even from the time my time that started the DRB in 2011 right there have been Projects in the southeast quadrant that have been proposed that been designed and have stalled You have one that sent spear meadows, which is near the corner of Swift and spear that Eric Farrell originally started And that's sitting waiting for a court decision on transferable development rights Which is one of the committees that we have as part of interim zoning to look at that That land development regulation and see if it is applied If it can be applied better and in order to preserve open space in the city you also have other plan developments like cider mill 2 which has not broken ground yet and and a lot of these these developments were Have been gone have gone entirely through the DRB process with planning and zoning and have been approved But what happens is that when they actually break ground and start cutting down trees? Even though these have been advertised in the other paper Repeatedly and been reported on by their excellent reporting People see trees going down and earth being torn up and dynamiting as they did at hillside farm You know and they they they feel this this this kind of fear that you know We're we're losing all this natural area and and I understand that feeling and I relate to it The problem is that you know the land villain regulations allowed this they went through the parties developers went through the process They purchased the land and they're getting ready to try and create a community of a certain density and You know if you're a developer the more density you can get on the land that you purchased Which cost you a lot the more profit you can make and I mean and these are just typical business equations that that people have to go through so with the advent of the Dorset meadows proposal which is off of no one farm road I think that the immediate neighbors there knowing what was happening at spear meadows seeing what has happened it at O'Brien hillside farm and especially in city center even though that's been planned since the 70s to Develop that area. I think everybody got a little bit alarmed and so this group SOS formed and they came Then they talked to city council repeatedly about their need to see that we pause the development And they're really concerned about the southeast quadrant and how can we best take care of the remaining open space? It's there and make sure that it's it's preserved while balancing that with a need to build homes It's a really good question. That's why we're doing this nine month pause on any new developments like you know the Dorset meadows is grandfathered because the You know the application went in before IZ was implemented. So that will move forward, you know, but it'll probably be Challenged in court. We probably should make clear there that that development will occur in the southeast quadrant It's just it's just we want to be sure that whatever development does occur is done as responsibly as possible and With a vision towards having ample open space in the in the future and don't forget I mean the council approved back in October Spending our open space fund of the tune of like $606,000 right to work a three-way deal between dirt capital and bread and butter farm and the city to preserve I think it's about 300 plus acres in the extreme southeast corner of the southeast quadrant and that land will remain agricultural Or have conservation easements put on it and that was part of the sales condition in the first place So I was really perplexed when you know when the you know That the community came to the city council was complaining about development when we had just spent this money to preserve a lot of land Which which granted isn't served by water or you know or or sewer and so it's not easily developed But there was a chunk of it that was prime developable land So this is again is one of these you know Perception problems of the public versus what's the reality and the other question is how much land is really available to be left In the southeast quadrant that you could truly put a PUD a planned unit development on in the first place And that's another good question that will be answered in the by the open space committee during interim zoning So Tim why don't you use this opportunity to give us a one-minute closing statement that sooner ready? well so when I ran three years ago I Was really passionate about those things that I was running for and Some of those things have changed but in the meantime. I've really come to know and respect the staff at the city and also my fellow city counselors and I I really enjoy this this Responsibility and I look forward to doing it for for three more years If the voters will have me and I'm asking for your vote on March 5th My name comes first in the three-year box Tim Barrett just take your little felt tip pen and fill in that circle with a black dot And I really appreciate it and you know people can contact me anytime if they go to this the city's Website they'll find my email address and my phone number and they can call me if they have issues and people do they contact all of us I'll five of us so So I'm asking you for your vote and I hope you'll consider me I've tried my hardest in the last three years to do a good job and I've attended almost every meeting All right, not only city council meetings, but other meetings as well And and so you know, I think you can see but by that the The amount of time that I've spent on this that I really am committed to trying to make South Burlington a great place to live Thanks. Thank you so much. Tim Barrett is running for the three-year term against Frank Davis who's not here this evening Dave Kaufman you're running unopposed for the two-year term your closing statement It's first before I forget. Let me say that as I said at the outset We have a very very solid council now. We don't agree on everything, but we discuss We listen to what the residents have to say listen to what the city departments have to share with us I think we make very responsible decisions and I too would encourage the voters to keep Tim where he is It's he's a great asset to the council Personally South Burlington we've lived there we lived here for 40 plus years brought up three three sons They've been through the best school system in the state Which it's important that we keep it that way and I think we're on track to do that but South Burlington is a wonderful city to to live to work and to play and If I can continue to contribute to that For the next several years that would be wonderful as I say I enjoy it I think my perspective which has a lot of history to it is helpful and That I understand what we're striving to be in the future And I think Tim Tim just said I think we have a really strong city government right now led by Kevin and Tom who were who are two great guys with a lot of knowledge a lot of experience and I don't think going forward we could be Other than the fact that we can't control mother nature and get rid of the potholes I think we're doing pretty darn well and I look forward to continuing to do that and For the next couple of years anyway. Well, I want to thank you both for joining me tonight here on channel 17 We've been talking with two candidates for two different seats for South Burlington City Council Tim Barrett is running against Frank Davis for the three-year seat and Dave Kaufman is running for the two-year seat, so we're glad you could join us Thanks for watching and stay tuned to channel 17's continuing coverage of town meeting 2019 and don't forget We have live election results next Tuesday the 5th of March Starting at 7 p.m. And everybody remember to vote. Don't forget to vote Thank you


We had her at the drawing quarter, really torture her, really, really make sure she feels the pain of it. Keep her. Meanwhile at a Nickelback concert. So I'm Cassie Wilson and I'm a co-president of the Fuji's and we are actually starting our second power at the 12 hour show right now. So we have 11 hours to go still. We've had a lot of stuff happen so far. The sun went down, Kira had a baby, and we ripped the sign down a couple of times. It fell through. It's been a long night, but it's been a lot of fun so far.  It's awesome to see so many people come and someone walked by and yelled how much they loved the Fuji's, but they would be back soon. So it's definitely going to be a fun show. We have a lot more people than I thought would show up. Hopefully this sticks around. We're doing jokes after jokes after jokes. It's going really well. We're getting a lot of crowd participation, a lot of excitement from them. I mean they're laughing really well so hopefully we just stick up with this. We keep going. It turns out really well. It's been great so far. We've had a steady crowd. We've had a lot of fun people coming in. A lot of fun suggestions. The fans only ripped once, so we are so good. Okay, it's ripped twice. So we have been going from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. and we just about reached the halfway mark and it's been really fun. We have gotten a really great crowd, which is awesome. So much support from the students, which is so nice because I know there are so many things you could be doing on a Friday night. Seven hours, about to hit seven and a half, but it's fun. I mean we wouldn't be doing it if we didn't like it. But yeah, 12 hour show, going great. Everyone's doing well. We're in the home stretch sort of. Only got five hours to go, which seems like yesterday. I don't know. I don't let magical powers like you do. I don't remember what I did before this, but it wasn't worth it. It's a lot of fun. We've had a great audience so far, which has been amazing. And right now it's almost 2 o'clock, I think. And we still have a pretty sizable audience, which is really encouraging for the rest of the night. I'm tickless here. 12 hours of improv and it is absolutely transcendent. There is nothing that compares to this. These people that you have coming in are wonderful. They're the best audience you can possibly have. Can you hear that scene? The game ending? That applause? There's nothing that compares to that. Now most people, when they ask me about the 12 hour show, they were like, so Kira, 12 hours, that's kind of a long time.  That is a long time. But you know what? You know what? No, we're not going to recycle information. No, we're not going to reuse the same jokes. You know why? Because we are the Fuji's. And you know what? We haven't done it once. Well, I did do it once because I was playing a game and I wasn't paying attention and I recycled the exact same joke that someone had just used about a lion. But we won't go into details about that because everyone else is perfect. We started doing jokes and then the bomb started to fall. And the fire alarms went off and we all got underneath the desks. And there was no hope for civilization. We thought we could make the world a better place, but unfortunately the end was too near. And so it goes again. At five in the morning, civilization is over. And thus, comedy is dead. I'm done.


He also knows deep in his heart that Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map if you had the letter you and a picture of an actual physical Crane next to it. He knows that this is you know an Administration defined by ignorance of the world and so that's partly him playing to their base and playing to their audience You know the the the credulous boomer-roob demo that backed Donald Trump. Donald Trump's a smart one in there Oh, y'all, y'all elitist for them You elitist with your geography and your maps and your spelling Yeah, well that illiterate rube secured better trade deals from Mexico and China He oversaw the lowest unemployment ever seen in the United States He brought back full-time manufacturing jobs that the supreme elite said couldn't be done. He remade the courts He's reduced illegal immigration hell. He's turned Mexico into the wall He's rebuilt the military and he's provided Ukraine with game-changing weaponry that will ensure that Russia cannot advance any further Welcome back everyone before we get to it I wanted to take a quick moment just to let you all know about the new bolo shirts over at the teespring store I was constantly being asked to bring those shirts back So I did head on over to my teespring store to check out that and other designs if you want to support this channel You can do so on patreon subscribe star or just send a donation over paypal with you too making it impossible to make money It's only thanks to my subscribers that I'm able to keep doing this today's clip is one of those teachable moments You hear so much about if you want to know how the Democrat Party media sees all of you and the rest of the country feast your eyes on this Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map if you had the letter you and a picture of an actual physical crane next to it He knows that this is you know an an administration defined by ignorance of the world And so that's partly him playing to their base and playing to their audience You know the the the credulous boomer-roob demo that backs donald trump Um that wants to think that that that doll trumps a smart one in there. Oh y'all y'all elitist or them You elitist with your geography and your maps and your spelling What is it with these people and a complete lack of self-awareness as they're moaning and whining about what was said to this npr Reporter they take it upon themselves to not only attack half the country as subhuman But they also start using a kind of southern accent to imply.  So if you don't know what this is all about They're outraged about an incident between mike pompeo and an npr reporter Pompeo claims that she lied to him twice saying that she would keep the interview off the record But then she ended up publishing it anyway during the interview Pompeo got into an argument with her and claimed that she couldn't find ukraine on a map His implication being that none of these so-called journalists actually care about ukraine They only care about how they can hurt trump with it We know that for a fact because it was never a scandal that brock obama refused to arm ukraine But the media elites are framing this as literally an issue about finding ukraine on a map as far as npr goes They're just as untrustworthy as the rest. Sure. They speak softly and they play smooth jazz bumpers But their content is mostly far left and the reporting is typically biased in favor of democrats I tried to find any articles about ukraine and obama from this npr reporter. Mary louise kelly, but I couldn't find anything She's been with npr since 2004. So I should have been able to find something I mean, she's the national security correspondent for f***ing fake But no it appears that her interest in ukraine started with trump funny She couldn't find anything to criticize obama about in regards to ukraine I found these same kind of partisan blinders from other reporters at npr Camilla domino's gay actually did an article about overcrowded detention centers during the obama administration But never mentions the obama administration I actually reached out to this reporter on twitter to find out why she neglected dimension obama and her answer was very telling I responded that it was his policy in his detention centers, but she never responded back So this is a tactic that they use to disassociate democrats or obama from negative news happening in the government They simply report it as the government. That's how they can now say obama was scandal-free Give me a second hold on hold on hold on That was good. Sorry so professional So journalisming if you're not familiar rick wilson is a republican strategist and a long time never trump her They just bring him on to attack his own side, which is standard operating procedure in the dnc media Have you ever seen a democrat in the media whose job it is to attack their own side? I'm guessing he's still feeling really triggered from getting destroyed by steve cortez saturday on msnbc Rick continues with these insanely insulting terms and by the way, I will tell you this I wear your scorn as a badge of honor I really do and and this kind of condescension from unlikable elites is one of the reasons we won in 2016 And a reason we're going to win again this time I was the last time I was on tv with you You called trump voters toothless rubes for you to continue to use all of these terms of derision only reinforces The need unfortunately in this country the need that we have for the electoral revolt of the america first movement And yes, we needed somebody to lead that movement who was a fighter and he is at times Indelicate and brash, okay, but and he can at times be offensive But he has also produced results for this country like we have never seen before in only three short years Hey, if trump were really as deeply unpopular as these democrat party elites pretending to be journalists Say he is then why have they given up any sense of credibility in order to destroy him? Why attempt to have him removed from office just before an election for completely bogus reasons? Why constantly attack and demonize his supporters as rubes and monsters and an attempt to pull support away from trump? The answer should be obvious to all of you at this point because they're politically partisan liars and hypocrites They lecture on and on about love not hate while they pretend to be overcome with laughter and portray half the country as slack job subhumans That's about all the don limon. I can take for one day. Thanks for watching keep coming back


Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States and Hector Barreto. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and the Latin Chamber of Commerce at the Tampa Bay, there's a great pleasure and honor for me to introduce to you the President of the United States, Mr. Ronald Reagan. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. And thank you, Hector. I appreciate the chance to be with you all here today. Over the last two and a half years, your President, Hector Barreto and others in the leadership of the Hispanic Chamber have been a tremendous source of advice and inspiration to me.  I can't do too much more in your language than that. But without you and the business community, where would we be? It's your decisions, investments, and risk-taking that make our country a miracle of efficiency in the envy of the world. There's a story, you know, about a fellow whose friend was so successful in business that he was opening up a new branch office and he decided to send a floral arrangements, nice flowers there for the grand opening. When he got there, he was shocked to find that the wreath that was delivered bore the inscription, Rest in Peace. Well, he was angry, and on the way home, he stopped into the flower shop on the plane and he was going at it and the florist said, wait a minute, just look at it this way. Somewhere in the land today a man was buried under a wreath that said, good luck in your new location. But you businessmen and women of Hispanic descent, you stand for much more than efficiency. I feel very much at home with you. There are people in this blessed land who feel that expressions of love for country and family are old-fashioned. They squirm and get uneasy when we talk about pride in neighborhood and work or speak of religious values. There are people like that. If you know something, you won't find them in the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. To every cynic who says the American dream is dead, I say, come to the Hispanic business community. Come see how entrepreneurs of Hispanic descent are not just building new corporations. They're building America's future for all of us. Inspirational examples of individual accomplishment abound. Your own president and my friend Hector Beretto has an inspiring story that I wish every school child in America could hear. 25 years ago, as a struggling immigrant, he dug potatoes for 80 cents an hour. Today he owns a piece of the dream. In fact, he owns several businesses, including a successful tile distribution company. And then there is Lord Miranda, born in Puerto Rico, into a family in which neither parent had a formal education. Yet with persistence and uncompromising desire for excellence, she went to college and then on to doctoral studies at the University of Madrid. She is now president of a highly successful media consulting firm in Bethesda, Maryland. There's another story of hard work and triumph about a junior high school dropout named Manuel Caldera, a veteran who later earned his GED degree. He went on to be an electronics technician and an engineer. And with money he saved and with help from a minority loan program during the Nixon administration, he started Amex Systems, a company specializing in the development and manufacture of electronic equipment. And today his company does more than support his family. His company supports 700 employees and earns some $62 million a year in sales. These few that I have mentioned and others of you right in this room offer us a vision of progress and hope. You prove that with freedom of enterprise comes values that make America more than a rich country. They make us a good country. I don't have to tell you that when Hector Beretto is not running his own business, he's overseeing a host of community service projects. If I could find out where he gets his energy, I'd package it and bring it back to Washington. Nor has Lord Miranda's success dampened her concern for others. Her company provides specialized training for young Hispanic women. Last year she helped train 40 women to qualify for job opportunities in today's market. In a fine example of a private sector initiative, Manuel Caldera's company contributes $500 a month to an orphanage in Tijuana, Mexico. And each year he personally gives to Whittier College for scholarships that enable students of Hispanic descent to study science and engineering. These are not unusual stories. They are instead examples of a byproduct of freedom that is always present but often unnoticed. Respect and concern for others. Businessmen and women realize that success depends on fulfilling the needs of others and doing it courteously and efficiently. And by doing for others, you are also achieving for yourself. This system of ours has produced the most material abundance, the greatest freedom and the most compassionate country in the history of mankind. Our people came here from every corner of the world, from every ethnic background and every race and religion seeking freedom and opportunity. Our history isn't perfect, but we can be proud of our country and Americans of Hispanic descent can be particularly proud of the contributions they have made and are making to the well-being of this nation. Today, it's my special honor to present your award at the Hispanic Businessman and Woman of the Year. So if Hector will join me, I would like to ask Manuel Caldera, but I can't. His plane was delayed and so instead Sergio Banyuelos is going to accept in his behalf and ask lords to stand up here with us and receive these awards. I've been mispronouncing it, haven't I? Yes, you have, Mr. President. It's lourdes. Thank you, Hector. I told you I wasn't too good in your hand. You're doing very well. Thank you. You know, maybe I've told this to some of you before, but there's whole matter of language difficulties. Some years ago when I was governor, I was speaking in Mexico City and I sat down to rather unenthusiastic and not very impressive applause and I was a little embarrassed. And then a gentleman, it was worse when a gentleman followed me and started speaking in Spanish, which I didn't understand, but he was being applauded about every paragraph. So to hide my embarrassment, I started clapping before everyone else and longer than anyone else until our ambassador leaned over to me and said, I wouldn't do that if I were you. He's interpreting your speech. But I believe that all of us share a sacred responsibility to maintain the opportunity and the freedom that we've enjoyed and to pass it on to future generations. Our task hasn't been easy. We're just now emerging from an economic crisis so severe that it would have robbed our children of the America that we all know and love. Three years ago, the ominous signs were everywhere. The world seemed to be counting us out, saying America's best days were past. Even our leaders were throwing up their hands, suggesting we were in a malaise was the word they used and our problems were unsolvable. Well, let's take patience. It's taken patience and hard work. Entrenched policies were squeezing the life out of our economy and basic change was essential. But I'm pleased to report to you today. America has made a new beginning. This great nation is moving forward again, and we're not turning back. When we got to Washington two and a half years ago, inflation was running at double-digit levels and had been doing so for two straight years. The worst performance in 60 years. But we've knocked that inflation from double-digit down to 2.6 percent for the last 12 months. The lowest it has been for 12 months in 16 years. And for all their talk about compassion, those who call themselves liberal gave us a terrible inflation that would have devastated millions had we permitted it to continue. And today, a family of four earning $25,000 has $600 more in purchasing power than in 1980. But let me just interject here that there is another figure that has just come out today that I think you should hear. One of the things that I tried to stress in those things we were doing, laying the groundwork for the economic recovery, was that this time we had to do the job right. A solid, sustained, non-inflationary recovery that would last. Well, today, this other piece of news is we are on the right track. The Bureau of Labor Statistics has announced the producer price index. Consumer price index for 12 months, 2.6. The producer price index of finished goods has risen only 1.4 percent over the last 12 months, and that's the lowest for a 12-month period in 16 years. We are launched into a solid recovery. Just before I took office, the prime rate hit 21.5 percent, and there were loud cries for a quick fix. Well, we didn't heed the hysteria. We followed common sense. Today, the prime rate stands at 11 percent. There will be slight fluctuations like we experienced this week. But if the Congress acts responsibly, with regard to spending, interest rates will come down more. When we took office, America was suffering from years of wasteful, uncontrolled spending and taxing. Federal spending was growing at a rate of 17 percent. We've cut that increase by 40 percent. Paying for all that spending had doubled the federal tax in just five years, between 1976 and 1981. Average working people were being taxed at rates that were once reserved for the wealthy, only a short time before. In these last few years, we have cut personal income tax rates by 25 percent, and soon they will be indexed so that the federal government can again profit from inflation at your expense. And I don't have to tell you business people about the burden of excessive federal regulation. Under the direction of Vice President Bush, we have cut 300 million man-hours off the processing of needless red tape and paperwork that was demanded by government. The cumulative effect of our efforts is just now being felt, and the signs are good. Consumer spending is up, productivity is up, industrial production, retail sales, auto sales, housing and construction are all up since the beginning of the year.  One of the last indicators to turn around is unemployment. I feel deeply about the suffering of the unemployed and don't let anyone tell you differently. I went through looking for a job in the depression of the 30s. Do you think that going back to the policies that dragged our economy down and set fire to inflation will really help the unemployed? Or would you agree that the best way to help all Americans is to continue the reforms that have brought down inflation, interest rates, taxes, and that last month gave us the biggest monthly drop in unemployment in almost 24 years? In these two and a half years, we fundamentally changed the direction of government in America. We were headed toward ever-increasing government control, toward a society where power and decisions would be controlled not by you, the people, but by a faceless, central authority. Permit me to ask you one more question. Is that the America you want to live in and leave to your children? Or do we want to live in a society where all people have the right to make decisions for themselves? Here again, the Hispanic Chamber is playing a significant role. You've provided a valuable resource to your community, bridging the gap between major corporations and government, making certain that your enterprises and business people have the technical assistance and the contacts they need to compete. In only five years, the number of Hispanic-owned firms has jumped 65% to some 363,000 businesses generating about $18 billion in sales per year. My administration remains firm in its commitment to expanding minority-owned business and through the strong efforts of the Small Business Administration, which has as its deputy administrator Eddie Herrera, and through our commitment to minority procurement, we've put our money where our mouth is. Let me answer some of the criticisms that are being hoisted and thrown around, and let's take one thing plain. Our goal isn't welfare or handouts, it's jobs and opportunity. You have just sent a message to some people that need to hear it in Washington, D.C. If we can prevent our country from bringing drawn back to the policies of tax, spend, and inflate, policies that knocked the wind out of our economy in the first place, we'll be on our way to a new era of growth and expansion that will help every American. With the energy and enthusiasm I sense in this room, I predict Americans of Hispanic descent will be leading the way. Let us join together today to accept a great challenge, and the challenge is to double the number of businesses owned by Americans of Hispanic descent and to do it in the next four years. What we are struggling to build, however, is much more than a society of wealth. We see the relationship between economic freedom and political and social freedom. Nations with government-controlled economies usually have government-controlled speech, religion, and press as well. Some of you here know that from personal experience. And, of course, some people believe that governments should dominate human action, and that individuals must live like sheep. Such people don't believe in the political and social freedoms that are contemptuous of the worship of God. That philosophy is alien to this hemisphere. It has brought deprivation and tyranny wherever it's gained a foothold. No better example exists than Cuba. Under Castro's rule, Cuba has become the economic basket case of the hemisphere. The Cuban government sells its young men a Soviet cannon fodder in exchange for a massive subsidy without which it couldn't survive. The Cuban people have been betrayed. They have neither freedom nor material goods. The only things abundant there today are slogans, weapons, repression, and shortages. Food and the necessities of life are severely rationed. You know, I have to interrupt and tell you something because I've just heard a little joke that I think some people in Cuba are telling. The Castro was making a speech to a large audience. And he said they say that I am accused me of intervening in Angola and a man going through the audience said peanuts, popcorn. He said they say that I'm intervening in Mozambique in the same voice said peanuts and popcorn. And he said they say that I'm intervening in Nicaragua. Peanuts and popcorn.  And everybody in the audience started shouting peanuts and popcorn. Cuba's repression and economic failure seriously are consistent with what has happened in every communist country. Jamaica flirted with radical socialism and it turned a tranquil, peace loving country with great economic potential into a bitterly divided, impoverished society. It's a tribute to the freedom loving Jamaicans that they withstood the totalitarian temptation and are now the country's prosperity with the tools of freedom and democracy. Today, our nation is confronted with a challenge of supreme importance. A far away totalitarian power has set its sights on our friends and neighbors in Central America and the Caribbean. If we don't meet our responsibilities there we'll pay dearly for it. The security aspect of this challenge must be addressed. Those who suggest otherwise are courting so we're helping our friends to defend themselves and we will continue to help them showing them we'll stand by them in their hour of need. But let's get one thing straight. Those who claim our support is only of a military nature are building a huge straw man. Security assistance is not the essence of our approach to Central America and the Caribbean. I don't know how many times it must be repeated before the message gets through. Three out of every four dollars we send to the region are in the form of economic aid. From the early days of this administration we've been promoting democracy, dialogue and economic progress in Central America and the Caribbean. When I got to Washington, one of the first heads of state to visit the White House was Jamaica's Prime Minister Siaga. He was anxious to build his economy and together we worked out a program to encourage private sector investment. By turning his country away from socialism, Prime Minister Siaga has ended seven years of economic decline that plagued his people. 162 new investments have been made to date providing the potential for thousands of new jobs. Our Caribbean Basin initiative is designed to bring the power of private enterprise, America's most potent weapon to help build Central America and the Caribbean. I was finally able to sign this important legislation just one week ago after too long a wait. As far as I'm concerned, too much politics has been played with what should be our role in Central America. When it comes to keeping our country safe, there must be no Republicans, no Democrats, just Americans. Our AID program continues to do some great work in developing the potential of the region's private sector. In Honduras a team of private sector experts sent by AID help that the country reorganize its forest management permitting it to protect its resources while reaping the benefits of valuable timberland. I had the honor of personally handing the report of the task force to President Suazo of Honduras. In the Dominican Republic in Haiti where swine fever disease threatened their entire pork production AID helped them eradicate the dreaded disease. In Jamaica AID helped finance an aquaculture project that when fully implemented will provide a new cash crop from fish ponds just as it's providing loans seed capital to numerous small business enterprises in other developing Latin American countries. In Guatemala AID teams with scientific know-how showed farmers how to use less fertilizer and still double their crops. Similar efforts are being made in El Salvador where AID finance technical assistance is helping tens of thousands of new landowners under the agrarian reform program to learn how to manage their land and increase their income. And there in El Salvador as is true in other countries in the region the AFL-CIO's American Institute for Free Labor is playing an admirable role both in assisting the land reform process and in providing guidance in the creation of a free union movement. I'm also aware of what the Hispanic Chamber is doing to strengthen our ties with your business counterparts to the south. I applaud you for your international trade conference held in Guadalajara and the initiative that you are demonstrating in the Western Hemispheric Congress of Latin Chambers of Commerce and Industry. But much more of this information should be given to the American public. We're in the midst of a long overdue awakening. A time has come when all of us in the Americas in the Western Hemisphere can and must recognize our common bounds. Most of us are descended from pioneers people with the courage to leave the familiar and start again in the new world. We came here in search of a dream looking for freedom and a better life. We worship the same God from the tip of Tierra de El Fuego to the north slopes of Alaska. We are all Americans a new breed of people. And what a mighty force we can be for good. If we work together and use our combined potential there have been mistakes made in the past but we can overcome those mistakes because what binds us together is far stronger than what divides us. I have a vision of a united hemisphere united not by the arbitrary bonds of state but by the voluntary bonds of free ideals. Today you, our citizens of Hispanic descent, can be a bridge to our neighbors in the south. We have much to do together as Americans and as citizens of the hemisphere. And with God's help there is nothing that we cannot accomplish. Thank you for having me with you and vaya cordillas. Thank you Mr. President.


It's time for the Lawn Jean Chronoscope, a television journal of the important issues of the hour brought to you every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, a presentation of the Lawn Jean Wittner Watch Company, maker of Lawn Jean, the world's most honored watch, and Wittner, distinguished companion to the world-honored Lawn Jean. Good evening. This is Frank Knight. May I introduce our co-editors for this edition of the Lawn Jean Chronoscope? Larry Lasser from the CBS television news staff and Kenneth Crawford, national affairs editor of Newsweek magazine. Our distinguished guest for this evening is the Honorable George A. Dondaro, United States representative from Michigan. In this reporter's opinion, if this 83rd Congress goes down in history for nothing else, it will be known as the Congress which passed the St. Lawrence Seaway Bill. A bill, a measure which opens up a 2,500 mile waterway through the heart of the United States. Now our guest tonight is the chairman of the House Public Works Committee and therefore was highly instrumental in the passage of that measure. Representative Dondaro, you've been a champion of the St. Lawrence Seaway for 20 years. That's correct. Now, why do you think it's a good thing for our country? Because it provides a new avenue or highway of water transportation and water transportation in the Great Lakes area is the cheapest transportation in this world. Well, do you feel it's a purely regional measure that it will help the Great Lakes cities and do harm to the other seaports in the United States, the Atlantic seaports like Philadelphia and New York? No, sir. I do not. I look upon it as a national measure of national benefit to all of our people. And I do not think that the eastern seaboard and the port that you've named will be affected adversely to any extent that they will even notice. Mr. Dondaro, this has always been so in your opinion, I know. Why was it held up so long? Where did this opposition come from? Well, it came from three sources. The coal industry fought it, the railroads fought it, and also the seaports along the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico. What in your opinion was the consideration that finally put it over, got around this opposition? Two things. The determination on the part of Canada to build it alone, in case we did not care to participate with it. And secondly, the discovery of what may be the largest deposit of iron ore in the world in the wilds of Labrador and Quebec. Well, that brings me to this point, Mr. Congressman. A lot of congressional critics say that the reason the administration has been so favorable towards the Seaway is because two of the most potent friends of President Eisenhower are members of the steel industry, and one of them is, as you know, Mr. Humphrey in the cabinet. Now, how much weight would that interest of the steel industries have because we know now that iron ore must come from elsewhere than the Masabi range in your part of the country? It had nothing to do with it. Whatever. The iron ore question did, because we have to admit that the iron ore deposits of the United States are diminishing rapidly. Because we're using a hundred million tons a year, and witnesses before my committee testified that by 1960, which is only six years away, we will use a hundred and fifty million tons. Our ore perhaps will vanish in the next ten to fifteen years, and it had to be provided from some other source. Well, this is actually true that there's a lot of ore in Latin America that we can get a hold of, and a lot of it is coming right into Philadelphia right now. That's true, and it comes into the port of Baltimore. But in case of war, or trouble with a foreign foe, we become a very vulnerable nation when we are compelled to bring that ore across the water. Just as what happened in the last war, when six out of eight ships were bringing ore from Chile, to the United States were sunk by the German submarines in the Gulf of Mexico. Mr. Don Darrow, I was going to ask you. Do you feel that President Eisenhower's insistence that this was necessary as a measure of preparation for war had something to do with overcoming the opposition ultimately? I think it was a major reason added to the other fact that raw materials in greater amount are coming to the United States from Canada every year. This provides one way to bring them cheaper and in larger quantities. Well, Representative Don Darrow, Mr. Humphrey, the present Secretary of the Treasury, was once against the Seaway until 1949 it was discovered that these tremendous ore bodies lay up in Labrador. And it's also true that the Hanna Company, which he represents, which controls national steel, has spent about $200,000 in lobbying since 1949. You mean against the Seaway? For the Seaway when he changed his mind. No doubt the discovery of ore in Labrador and their interest. They're one of the companies that are exploring and developing the ore in Labrador and Quebec. However, I don't think that entered into it very much. The steel companies of the United States are searching this world for new deposits of iron ore. Not alone the republic steel that's represented by the Hanna people, or George Humphrey, who was interested in it, but all the steel companies of this country have been looking all over this world in Africa for a new deposits of iron ore because we're using it in such increased quantities. The steel industry's expanded data. Mr. Don Darrow, the Masaba range is about worn out, is that true? Well, the best figure we get it'll last maybe 10 to 15 years. That's the open pit, rich iron ore. Then Labrador will become the principal source. It will become a source added with that ore before that time because the estimate is that we'll bring in 20 million tons of ore as soon as the new canal of the St. Lawrence Seaway is open from Labrador. Representative Don Darrow, one of the arguments against the Seaway has always been that it's closed up for three or four months of the year when the Great Lakes freeze over. Now what are we going to do when those lakes freeze over and we have no iron ore to get across? We've answered that for 75 years in the Great Lakes area by bringing down the ore that is required for the steel industry and stockpiling it in the eight months when navigation is open. We have no trouble whatever in regard to that and the same rule that applied in bringing ore from Duluth, Minnesota will apply to bringing it up the St. Lawrence with the same ships and using the same machinery. Speaking of Duluth, it seems to me that when Herbert Hoover first proposed Seaway a long time ago, he wanted it to run right up to Duluth. Now this isn't the same Seaway, it just goes as far as really as Lake Erie, doesn't it? As to 27 feet. And someday in the future, maybe not for 10 years or 20 years. If they want to deepen the canals, that is they're connecting channels of the Great Lakes like the Detroit River. To 27 feet they can do it. It's 25 feet now and on that 25 feet we have been able to, well we better say we've been able to do about 25% of the water borne commerce of the entire United States. Mr. Don Darrow, how much will this cost and how will it be paid for? It will cost the United States shares $105 million and it is the only project on the North American continent which will be paid for by tolls to be charged against those who use the new canals and the newer canals. And the new locks in the St. Lawrence Seaway. And Canada shares? Canada shares a little less than $200 million because she has four locks to build while we only have three and in addition to that she will be compelled to lower the well and canal by 2 feet. You mean actually the people who are going to use the Seaway will actually pay for its cost over in the long run? They will and the period of amortization is 50 years. Mr. Don Darrow, some people I think think of this as a project designed primarily to make Chicago and Duluth and the middle western cities great seaports that the Queen Mary will sail into Chicago harbor and so on. Well of course that's not true. The Queen Mary and battleships couldn't use the canal. It would take about 73% of the ocean ship if they want to use it. But in my judgment the major part of the commerce of the St. Lawrence Seaway will be domestic commerce. It will not be foreign commerce such as iron ore, wheat shipment, bulk shipment, petroleum and petroleum products. There will be some foreign commerce to be sure. Okay so as a matter of fact you now see a foreign ship in the Great Lakes do you not? Yes sir, the little 14 foot canal that Canada built and she had more vision than we did 55 years ago. Bring in little ships 250 feet long with about 2500 tons capacity. Representative Don Darrow, what ports do you expect on the Great Lakes will benefit most from the sea? There are 16 major ports on the Great Lakes such as Toledo, Cleveland, Ashtabula, Lorraine, Detroit. And then going up around Saginaw, Bay City, Chicago, Milwaukee on the Wisconsin coast, Duluth, Minnesota and so on. Superior Wisconsin. Of course they won't all benefit equally. What do you expect will be the great St. Lawrence port in the future then? I don't think you can say that any one port will be the great St. Lawrence port. All of the ports that wish to can use the St. Lawrence Seaway commerce. Now do you think that the actual passing of the measure under the Eisenhower administration will have a pervasive effect on the coming congressional elections in your part of the world? I doubt it very much. Perhaps those who were for it might gain something by it and I can say to you it's not a partisan measure in the least. It's bipartisan. Both parties supported it. Both in the Middle West, Republican and Democratic congressmen all supported it. Reverend Dondaro, you are very optimistic and you may well be because you have a right to be about the St. Lawrence Seaway. But what about the coming congressional elections? Do you feel quite as optimistic about those as a Republican? That's a political question and perhaps there are many people in the country who are disappointed. Nevertheless, the Eisenhower administration has accomplished some real things and this St. Lawrence Seaway that we're discussing in my judgment is one of the major accomplishments of the president's administration. Representative, when will it be ready? When will we be able to go down to St. Lawrence and go to Duluth? It will take five years to build it. At the end of that time, I hope and I said so to the president that he and I could take a trip on the first ship through it. And who's going to build it? Will it be the private industry or the army? The Corps of Army Engineers of the United States and the Canadian Corps of Engineers will have supervision and control of it. Some of the work will be let out to private contractors. The Army Engineers of the United States do that all over our country. Now, will we be able to get any hydroelectric power out of it or will this hurt the potential of the St. Lawrence to hydroelectric? No, the power and the navigation must be built together because the dams that will furnish the hydroelectric power are also the dams that furnish the water for the country. Well, thank you very much, Representative Dondaro, for some very informative stuff. The opinions expressed on the Laundry and Chronoscope were those of the speakers. The editorial board for this edition of the Laundry and Chronoscope was Larry Lisser and Kenneth Crawford. Our distinguished guest was the Honorable George A. Dondaro, United States Representative from Michigan. They say that everyone sees the watch on your wrist. To be really well-dressed, every detail must conform, including your watch. Now, Laundry makes a watch to fill every need to suit every taste. The choice of models and styles is almost unlimited. For ladies, Laundry creates superb examples of the jeweler's art, exquisite in taste and finish, and literally for every occasion. For men, Laundry produces watches for every requirement. 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