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There are many games that we would love to show but no longer have. If you have a copy of a game that you think could be a classic, please get in touch with WSCS-TV at<PHONE_NUMBER> and maybe we can get that game into our next classic series. Green Bay Southwest came to town ranked number one in the state, but would they leave Sheboygan still number one? This game was provided by Rocky Bergaman and begins with me interviewing Southwest coach Casey Zekowski. South coach Dan Koopman told me years later he used that interview as motivation during the pregame talk to the team. The game was played in the old gym. Check out all the familiar faces in the crowd. The game was a defensive struggle but still proved very entertaining. The post-game interview features Ryan Stubbe and Nate Bergaman, Rocky's son. Bergaman's comments are classic Nate. Stu Hoffinsberger does the play-by-play and I provide the color.  Sheboygan's out on a little bit of a roll and they gave the Southwest team a tough time on their own floor losing by just eight, but South's really going to have to find the range, I think, from three if they're going to have a chance in this one tonight. Let's talk about South West, what they got to do. They got to shut down the awkwardness of South and South is really very quick, I think, hopeful in Rogers. Plus it's a home court and that can be a big advantage if they can stick close and get this game tight in the second half. These rims are the tightest in the conference and you know that. You played around through the league and so have I. And that's a big home court advantage, the way the rims play and the South fans are going to be behind their team and that again is going to make it tough for Southwest. When we come back, Mike had a chance to talk with the coach of the number one rated team in the state, Casey Zakowski from Green Bay Southwest. Stay with us. Joining me is Casey Zakowski, the head coach of the Green Bay Southwest Trojans. The number one ranked team in the state coach. I think there's two ways to look at being number one. You can talk about being a monkey on your back, which is a negative kind of thing. Or it can be something that you can enjoy.  It's been a real thrilling season for our kids and for the fans, too, to be ranked so high in that Associated Press poll. The kids have done a very good job of handling what I would call a nice distraction. They've stayed pretty focused in practice. They're still very attentive and working hard. And we really don't talk about it much with the kids. I think with the fans, it's a little different. I know around school, there's a lot of talk about the state tournament and this and that. And sometimes maybe the fans can be your own worst enemy. But overall, I'm really proud of the way the kids have handled this. And hopefully we can just keep things going. Now, going into the season, you and Manitowoc and North were rated quite highly in the preseason polls. Have you been surprised by the success of your team? I've been a little surprised. I didn't think we'd be undefeated at this point. We knew going in, we had a veteran team, a lot of seniors back. And we thought we could contend for the conference. And we knew Manitowoc, North, South would be right up there, too. So we expected to contend and compete very well. To be where we're at, though, I guess I'm a little surprised. I didn't think we'd be undefeated at this point. Now, I had an opportunity to see your team play at North. And you really took a tool with a 20-point victory. And one of the things that surprised me about your team was the pace at which you played that night. Well, we are playing a little faster this year. We've been predominantly a half-core team over the years. And we feel we have the personnel where we can look to push and take advantage of the opportunities in the open court. And the way North plays, too. North plays a very fast game. They press the course and push the ball themselves. And so on a game like that, there are going to be more opportunities presented to push the ball yourself and take it to the basket. And we were successful doing that. We've had some success against other teams doing that, too. So we're still not a real high-powered, fast-breaking team. But when the opportunity is there, we'll look to push it up. Now, yeah, you're going to have a tough game tonight. I think Salt will give you a good run. What do you guys need to do to be successful in the game tonight? Well, I know it's going to be tough. And the kids better believe it's going to be tough tonight. Over the years, we've come down here to Salt. And we've had our shirts of ups and downs. Last year, they beat us pretty handily. And they have pretty much the same team back. And I know this year is a different year. But we expect a tough game.  And we obviously have to mark Stubbe. Stubbe's going to get his points. But we can't let him go wild and have a huge night against us. And their inside guys are kind of sneaky. I think Wallful and Rodgers can score a little bit inside. And they have some other kids that can shoot. Kerwin, leader. So I really think we're going to have to win it on the defensive end tonight and try to keep them in check. And really focus on Bergamann and Stubbe. Who can we look at as the fans watch the game? Who can we look at from your squad to do a lot of scoring and do some of the important things that you need to have done to win the game? We've had very good balance. Really the whole season. We have three or four kids averaging between nine and 12 points a game. We've had different kids be leading scorers every night. So I think you can see the Sorenson boy, Gertz, Kowalski, one of the Alcox probably do most of our scoring tonight. Coach, I want to thank you very much for stopping over. I appreciate it a lot. Good luck the rest of the season and especially in the tournament trail. Well, thanks for asking me. We'll be right back with the tip-off of tonight's ball game. Announcements were just moments away from the opening tip. Green Bay Southwest tonight will start Jason Alcox. Number three, Nate Sorenson, 21. Jason Nolan, number 15. Along with Nick Gertz, number 51. And Justin Kowalski, number 45. Sheboygan South will answer with Nate Bergman at one guard along with Ryan Stubbe. Josh Kerwin, Mark Wolfel, and Chris Rogers. Stu Hopkinsberger here along with Mike Martin. And Mike, hopefully, I'll repeat performance from South from something they did before Christmas, taking Southwest all the way to the wire in a game played in Green Bay. One thing you got to give South is they play awfully hard. They're a little under manned, especially underneath the basket, but they play awfully hard. They gave Manitowal quite a run here. That was Sorenson with the ball. Alcox on the drive and he's fouled by Stubbe as he beat him with a quick first step. The perimeter players for Southwest are extremely quick and they have another Alcox that comes off the bench. That's very good also. He's very quick. That's Tom Alcox. Southwest, very patient, offensively play great defense. They're only averaging about 55 points a game. Yet they have a perfect record. This is Alcox out front. Nolan goes to the corner, touch pass inside and another foul as that was Kowalski going to the hoop. One thing Southwest doesn't do a whole lot of, Stu, and that is shoot the three-point shot. They're going to like the work of all inside. A foul went against Chris Rogers, his first personal. Second team foul against the Red Wings. Nick Gertz likes to pull stuff inside. And another foul, this one I believe will go against Bergamon. Three fouls on South in the first 31 seconds of the game and that does not bode well. I was going to say this is getting to be an expensive possession. Sorenson inbound, knocked away by Bergamon at the other way, goes coast to coast. Bank shot rolls off the rim, no good. Now Bergamon strips the ball away, fouled no call, Wofle misses a short bank shot Alcox with the rebound. Bergamon's the one guy that can more than keep up with the quickness of Southwest. As a matter of fact, he's quicker than most of their guys and we saw it right there. Bounce pass inside for Kowalski and another whistle. This time I think Kowalski is going to be called for the push-off. They're right there. This first personal, the first team foul whistle against the Trojans and South will bring the ball the other way. Just a minute gone here in the opening period of play from South High School. A man defense by Southwest. This is Bergamon with the basketball, tied up. Now to Rogers. Stuby open. Stuby trying to pose, Kerwin couldn't get it to him. That's Bergman. Southwest is very sound fundamentally on their defense and a lot of what Coach Kowalski uses is what Dick Bennett used at Green Bay, South, or at Green Bay, UW-Green Bay. Kerwin's jump shot, no good. Alcox with the bounce pass for Nolan. Now the quick touch pass inside. The big man missing was Gertz, rebounding us out. We're still scoreless, two minutes gone. A couple of real good looks at the basket, but haven't gotten it in. This is Ryan Stuby in the corner. Tried to go inside to Woffel, taken away by Gertz. Alcox brings it the other way. Three point shot on the way. It's short of it's mark. Gertz with the rebound. Not good block out that time. You got to mark him, keep him off the boards. Nolan into the corner. Kowalski couldn't handle the pass. Rogers comes up with it for the red wings. Great health defense by Chris Rogers. Gertz down inside from the weak side. Stuby winds his way inside. His shot, no good. Maybe intimidated a little bit by the big man, Gertz. Alcox out front. Chris Rogers has Gertz on the inside. And Woffel has Kowalski. We've gone almost three minutes. We're still scoreless. Bergman just missed the steal. Sorensen now throws it away and Bergman comes up with a loose ball. Lead pass ahead to Kerwin. Too much to save. He's not loose to southwest. Alcox on the drive and scores. So the first points of the game come at 4.52. Remaining in the first quarter. More than a three minute drought for both teams. And both teams playing very hard defensively. You mentioned on the opening, Salt has to make their shots. Kerwin out front. Very vocal on the southwest side. You can see him in your shot right there. They're going to have to hit a couple before they get quiet. Rogers in the lane. Jump shot good. Nice little turnaround over the taller defender. Rogers is a kid's do that's really come on as the season has progressed. Averaging just shy of six points a game. And we're halfway through the first period tied at two. Gertz with position inside on Rogers and hits the bank shot. That's a mismatch right there. Rogers giving up about six inches. The other thing, the way they moved the ball at times through there was no health defense. And once Rogers, once his man got the ball it was one on one. And like you said, it's a mismatch. They got to try and eliminate those situations where he doesn't have any, where he does have health. Alcox whistled for the foul. That's his first personal, Bergamon inbound. Throws it off the back of the defender. What a great play by Bergamon. And he ties the score at four. Heads up thinking there. Gertz out front. Kowalski was camping in the lane. He had good position and kind of surprised Gertz didn't get him the ball in there. Alcox with a quick step to the left. Now dishes back out. Kowalski will try to pull up jump shot and scores. His first points. He's a good short range shooter. You got to keep track of him. Rogers on the drive. He's fouled by Kowalski. And that will be two personal fouls on the Southwest forward. Bergamon trotting off the floor, getting rid of his gum. I think it was two. Either that or it was a major league luger. It is the cold season. Bergamon will inbound. I think maybe the Southwest defenders have figured out they better turn around and look a little bit when Bergamon is throwing the ball in. Rogers whistle for traveling a South turnover. It looked like they had Chris Rogers scouted right there because as soon as he caught the ball he wanted to go to his right and the defender Jason Nolan got right there and forced the turnover. We have an Alcox tandem in terms of the guards right now. Zero who's checked into the game is Tom Alcox. This is a drive and a block from behind by Bergamon. South comes up with a loose ball but Kerwin lost his balance. He throws it right to Alcox. His shot blocked with a foul call. Again, South really playing good defense just to misfortune of losing his balance and then Kerwin had to get rid of the ball and threw it right to the Southwest player. Josh whistle for the foul, his first. And that's four team fouls already here in the first quarter. Jason Alcox at the line. He throws in the first. You'll get another. Soft touch on that free throw. It's real important. There you see Coach Kasey Zakowski in the middle for Wolfe to block out big number 51. Second free throw missed. Rebound by Rogers. All stolen by Tom Alcox. Passes to his brother who overlays but Guertz follows it in. A few years ago it was still you didn't see Southwest running a break like that. Trojans with the lead is off the mark. Southwest controls the board. Tom Alcox on the drive. He was blocked. And then I believe a blocking foul is going to be called. They're going to get Bergaman on the block attempt and that's his second personal foul. It's very important for Salt to keep him on the floor as much as possible. He's going to have to play under a little more control now. Not pick up that third foul. They've only got one listed on the board but I'm pretty sure that is two for Nate. Aline and he misses the first free throw. Hits the second so another one for two trip for the Trojans and they lead 10-4. Their biggest lead of the game at 2-10 here in the first quarter. Scooby with the ball tries to shoot over the big center. Wolfe with a nice play knocks it off the Southwest defender so it'll stay on this end of the floor. We saw this when Salt played Manitowox through the height. He's open. Good time out by Coach. Very good time out and I'll tell you if Salt needs to hit their shots I thought in the first five or six minutes of the quarter they got some really nice looks at the basket but they just weren't able to get it to go down. They got to start hitting those shots. And if they don't the Southwest proddle will continue to be loud and louder. A couple of three-point bombs would certainly quiet them down. It's been a tall order this year though. Steal by Tom Alcox ball loose and picked back up by Scooby. South has some numbers now Scooby will hold up and look to set the offense. Kerwin on the drive scores. Nice pass that time by Ryan Scooby to the cutting Kerwin. Kerwin's first basket of the night. In the interview with Coach Takowski he used a soccer term. He said we got a mark. Scooby and what that means is get up on him not long to shoot open three-pointers. Zorkson missed with a long outside jumper. Alcox with the board. He missed but then a foul called inside. That's going to go on Mark Wolfle. And if they got him for two still that's where that's right. The foul that we thought was on Nate Bergman was actually tagged to Wolfle and this is going to be his second foul so Bergman does only have one according to the book. 102 remaining first quarter Southwest put an eight-point run together here and now lead by six Kerwin's basket just moments ago put an end to that streak. Jason Alcox with the basketball tried to go inside to Gertz knocked out a bounce. Eric Cosenstein on a nice catch there in the first row of the bleachers. Alcox in bounds to Jason. Gertz inside misses the air and air bunny. That was an air bunny. He should have had that one. Maybe it was a little too open. 30 seconds to go. Bunch of fresh faces in for South. Hemsing and your favorite player Zach Leiter in there still. Back to you had the ball there. This is Iskin outside Chad Iskin. Hemsing Leiter South playing for one. Smart move. They're only down by six. Six seconds to go. Iskin will drive, takes it all the way, draws the foul on the big man Gertz. It looked like a blow out into making and you called it coach Coopman calling that 20 second time out to help stem the tide and they've done that. I have a chance to pull it to within four. Iskin hasn't been to the line a lot this year but he's a 61% shooter which is the exact shooting percentage for the team from the line this year. Bangs in. The first one hit the front, the back, the glass and the net. I think you ought to get two points for that free throw. What you'll get is another free throw. You would have gotten that anyway. Let's see if you can put this one down and then South has to play a little defense for two to three seconds. First point of the night for Iskin. Second shot is to the bottom of the net. Quick inbounds. This is Jason Allcox. Got a pretty good look at the basket from about 25 feet but it's no good. We played one quarter at Sheboygan South. It's Green Bay Southwest 12 and the Red Wings 8. Everyone rated Green Bay Southwest Trojans, leads Sheboygan South 12-8 but South has the basketball.  Iskin had an opportunistic drive, got fouled and hit his two free throws. Cut the lead to four. Wolf will hit Rogers cutting inside who is fouled by Adam Dudek. First personal on Dudek. Dudek's the kid you got to keep an eye on. He's a good long-range shooter off the bench. He had a couple of threes at North two weeks ago. Had to get it in. Kerwin did a nice job of handling the basketball there. Rogers has it knocked away but saves it to Stubbe, the three-point bomb. Ryan Stubbe hits the three-pointer and South is within one. A great effort that time. Kind of lost the ball but he was able to tip it out and the defender was slowly reacting. Stubbe's first points of the night. He's South's leading score. Bergman with another steal. Stubbe. He'll drive fouled. Reach and called on Tom Alcox. You can't say enough about the quickness of Nate Bergman but you got to keep him on the floor. Great shot there coach Dan Koopman. Bergman averaging about four plus steals a game and he's already had a couple here tonight. Stubbe with a long bomb just short. Rebound by Joe Poles. Polesky turn around. Jump shot. No good. Rogers last touched it but they'll give it to Southwest. Well caught a break there. It definitely looked like Chris Rogers hit it but not much complaining by Poles either. He just head back down the floor so maybe he did knock it out. Southwest on a run of seven unanswered points as they climb back into the ball game and bounces it off Alcox to allow South to retain possession. Well he had the backdoor screen and the lock play set up passes a little bit off its mark and Bergman made a good effort to get a little double hitch there to get it off. Shot didn't go but Kerwin tracks down the loose basketball on the right side into the corner it's Rogers dishes back to Bergman. Hits it. Same spot as last time to stop the left wing. He said two from the left missed one from the right but South has the lead at 14-12. And a turnover as Waffle comes up with the basketball and Bergman is then fouled by Nate Sorenson. Well that was excellent defense on the post by Waffle. He was able to fight around the posting up poles on the way. 10 straight points reeled off by Sheboygan South and they have their first lead of the night at 14-12 with 5-51 to go in the half. And surprisingly enough to Southwest leads in team fouls 7-7-6 and Bergman is going to go to the line shooting the 1-1. You think over 30 seconds of that first quarter to the beginning South committed three fouls on that trip. Bergman rolls in his first great throw. He started out shooting terribly from the line this year but he's really come on strong. He's over 60% now on the season. Well remember that one game he shot up an air ball and then we had him a couple of games later he did it again. This time he's led her perfect. Hits two for two there. He has four and South's lead grows to four at 16-12. Cox on the drive Kurtz misses the Bunny loose ball Stubbe comes up with it. I think the official had a fist made which is a foul call but he changed itself out of time. And it's going to be a 20. Possessions will loom important today and so that's probably a wise call as South gets the turn over and now has the basketball. Well the four point lead and the ball they're going to have a great opportunity here to lead up to six possibly seven points. There you see Jason Liederman Dan Coopman in the background. Southwest has gone four and a half minutes without a score. That's a little surprising South has played really good defense on the interior and Southwest is not a real good perimeter kind of team. This is Kerwin out on top ball loose Jason Allcox comes away with it. Russell of Shroyd and Salt I mentioned before Stu that Southwest really plays good fundamental defense we'd have to label Salt in that same vein because they really play a good hustling fundamentally sound defense. Pull up 15 footer short off the rim Jason Allcox with the rebound for Southwest Allcox will take it to the hoop and I think Josh Kerwin might have caught a stray elbow definitely down. Chris had the right idea to get in position and take the charge he was just a little bit late getting there. Kerwin's going to head off to the locker room and Iskin's going to come in for him hopefully not too serious an injury wiping up some perspiration which is a good thing Allcox lost his balance on the block and as he was falling to the right side his arms were flailing out I just happened to see it happen it was an elbow or forearm right to the head first free throws missed by Allcox Stu that's how I normally play defense flailing away Southwest does not shot very well from the line 0 for 2 there are 2 for 6 on the night and South with a chance to pad their lead Rogers will drive shot no good ball knocked out of bounds by Southwest Chris Rogers had a great drive to the basket if it wouldn't have been for the Nick Gertz coming over and disrupting him I think you'd add 2 points Bergman inbound to Iskin Stu be double teamed on the right side they're playing a 2-3 zone right now and Bergman doing the right thing trying to get penetration Stu be might have got away with a walk shot was short Jason Allcox on the other end a layup by Bergman but they'll call a foul like to see that one again it's only number 2 but look like he got a lot of ball on that one did he get up Stu Lake Owl I really thought that was a clean block we had the perfect angle on it although we were a little further away other end of the floor well I was smiling Hamer were making a call I know one guy that wasn't smiling about it no that's for sure Jason Allcox it's his first free throw John Hamer is his real name Stu he's done quite a few games here in Cheboygan over the years he's really a nice guy plays baseball for West Bend during the summer and the 2 free throws end a 5 and a half minute scoring drought for Southwest and Allcox now has 5 points Cheboygan South upset minded lead by 2 here in the first half that's what you call fighting through a screen I'm Allcox second personal foul that's actually his second foul the quarter and Kerwin a pretty good free throw shooter I believe is going to be on the line 43% I don't know if we call that a good free throw shooter sure that's not his 3 point shooting that's it 43 oops he'll jack it up right here first one is good and he'll get another sometimes it's like a hitter in baseball you just got to get enough at bats to get the BA up there Kerwin averaging over 7 points a game for the Red Wings this year he probably has a better field goal shooting percentage than he does a free throw shooting percentage field goal is at 46 almost 47 a little bit of a delay a little player maintenance going on out there here you get a shot at Josh Kerwin 3 points tonight looking for his fourth this one short and Gertz with the rebound good defense there by Josh to cut off the baseline that was Nolan now with the sorenson he'll take the long jump shot 3 time the game at 17 first 3 point basket of the night for the Trojans you got to keep track of him he's their high score they're going to call a carry and a turnover for south might have a shot at the basket if he wouldn't have lost his balance because he got around the defender and there was a little bit of a lane but then he slipped Nolan on the right side very patient on offense Roger's playing the post defense on Gertz Sorenson with another 3 point shot this one no good and south comes up with a loose ball very good hustle there by Stuby to track down that loose ball Stuby will try to drive and he's fouled that's 3 on Tom Alcox Stux came in off the bench he was one of the first substitutes and he's going to have to sit out probably the last 315 and a half Stuby will get a chance at the line his first free throws of the night and he's a 74 and a half percent free throw shooter on the year South's leading score at just under 15 points a game shot is hard off the rim and Gertz with another rebound Well these missed free throws are big it gives you an opportunity to grab the lead back and Southwest has kind of helped out South in that regard too so far so good and we'll see what happens we're tied at 17 at the 3 minute mark of the first half well this is more the pace that Southwest plays at they value each possession and South does the same Chad Wyman in the game for Southwest Trojan's working the perimeter now tried to get the ball inside and it's knocked away but the visiting team will retain possession for the Southwest player Gertz outside with a head fake pull up 15 footers no good Rogers nice block out and a rebound Bergman ahead to Wolfe Wolfe with the layup and really should have gone to the line as a little bit of a hip and a thigh there on his way to the hoop what he did do is he kept his balance on the shot which he didn't do the time before and another good pass by Bergman South has been very balanced tonight Wolfe will his first two points Stuby with a strip and a steal ahead to Kerwin Kerwin cross court to Bergman Bergman from the quarter in and out Southwest controls the board Wyman out to Alcox his shot short Gertz rebounds he's got to have at least 10 boards already good pressure on the shot by Alcox by Stuby and Bergman's got a big assignment on Sorensen don't give him any open shots Gertz post a double team ball knock loose Rogers came up with a loose ball Bergman looking for an opening Stuby in the corner South by two they have the ball minute ten to go Chris Rogers out to Bergman he'll take the long shot it's no good rebound controlled by Southwest Nolan out top Sorensen setting a back we look out for him to be the shooter that was Sorensen on top there's a little axiom and another steal for the Redwigs Kerwin with a bust out layup ball was blocked Alcox with the block he'll bring it the other way ball's not loose and out of bounds it'll go to Southwest there's a little axiom in basketball Stu that says the best way to get open is set a screen and what happened there the time before this was Sorensen set a back screen and he stepped out and was open for just a second but with Bergman's quickness he was able to jump back and cover up the shooter One arc that's been lost in the 90s is a reverse layup and that would have served its purpose pretty well that time on that break up by Kerwin Southwest right now with ten seconds and looking for the last shot of the half Sorensen will take it 15-4 rims out no good he gets his own board and scores with just under two seconds to play Green Bay Southwest is tied with Sheboygan South at 19 each back early for a change if you're just joining us you've missed a pretty solid first half of defense definitely defense played well by both teams because the number one rated Green Bay Southwest Trojans are even with their host Sheboygan South Red Wings at halftime 1919 scoring as you can imagine has been pretty balanced six players scoring for South in the first half led by Ryan Stubbe who hit a pair of three pointers in the second quarter Nate Bergman has four Josh Kerwin three and then baskets from Wolfle free throws from Iskin in a bucket by Rogers lead up to 19 Green Bay South leading all scores was Green Bay Southwest, Nate Sorensen who had seven Jason Alcox with five Nick Gertz four Justin Kowalewski had two points and Tom Alcox a free throw and that adds up to 19 and that's where we are at halftime well you had an interesting stat there still about the last five minutes of the half Sorensen was the only guy that scored any points out of the half as a matter of fact he's the only guy that scored a field goal in the second quarter for the Trojans and they haven't had a basket from anyone else since about the midway point of the first quarter was an outstanding defensive effort by South in the second quarter holding Southwest only seven points Southwest has the ball open and Rogers knocks the pass away and South has the basketball with quickness shown there by Rogers what he gives up stew and height really makes up for his quickness stewby looked at the three decided against it Wolffles passes batted away and now Southwest has the turnover considering the intensity of the defense has been a relatively clean game as well not a lot of fouls Kowalewski works his way inside shot no good Gertz and offensive board scores right at the end there Wolffle had a solid defensive effort on Kowalewski not the ball inside to him was really tough for South to match up with the two big guys it's the first Trojan lead since early in the second quarter South running their motion offense looking for a bad shot there by Rogers he had contact and really there could have been a foul called on that but no whistle and South gets a break and keeps the basketball and worked himself free inside and then he's fouled actually what Kerwin did is he started up at the elbow slid down set a screen for Stubbe and then slid off of the man he was screening to get it open but again the taller player was able to block the shot however he was fouled Jason Nolan called for the foul and it's a two shot foul Wolffle was one for two in the first half and it's not very often do you see a kid with a better field goal shooting percentage and a free throw shooting percentage sure he's going to be happy that you've mentioned that twice last night but he's improved his percentage both trips to the line a one for two trip and Kerwin brings South within one at 21-20 only the facts please only the facts all right Joe Friday Wolffle trying for the steal wasn't able to get it and you don't want to leave Kyle Lesky open he bangs in the short jump shot his first point since early in the ball game and he has four on the night Kerwin finds him with the pass great cut great pass great catch in the basket this is Kurtz out front Sorenson will take the left corner jumper rebound fought for and then controlled by Stubbe Kerwin with the drive and he's fouled on that last defense of possession by Salah they actually had a double team on Kyle Lesky they were leaving Nolan pretty wide open to prevent Kyle Lesky from getting the ball inside big center Gertz called on that one and Stubbe does the same thing Bergman did in the first half bounces the ball off the defender didn't quite get as good a bounce but another good idea we got a great shot here and again the defenders not paying any attention to Stubbe whistle and a foul Southwest having the same problems that South had early in the first quarter a quick rash of fouls this one going against Nate Sorenson in his second we got four across the free throw line nice play by Kerwin and again Stubbe he was a screener on that play and he released and got himself wide open six points for Kerwin South has the lead back at 24-23 little high little action Bergman ties up the big center Gertz and it's a jump ball possession arrow favor South what Southwest is doing is they're bringing Gertz up to the free throw line they're leaving Kyle Lesky low and looking for a high low feed South has defenced it very well so far here in the third quarter the Red Wings by one it's been a tight game throughout Kerwin's pass was not loose he comes back up with the loose basketball while swings into the left corner to Stubbe now Bergman out front South being very patient with this possession Bergman inside the wall fall that was really good offense to a lot of ball movement and South perhaps a three point lead and Southwest takes a 20 Bergman has scored one and distributed two great passes to lead to six point South run well what South did on that possession is they didn't force things we've seen them earlier in the game try to force the issue that particular possession they were very very patient and played really good offense 4-46 remaining in the third quarter Sheboygan South upset minded as they're playing the number one team in the state Green Bay Southwest credit the South they have made Southwest look anything but the number one team in the state so far in this ball game well they've done that before with Manitowoc also because they play such good defense this is Poles with the ball now into the game 6-6 player for Southwest Kawaleski 12 foot pull-up scores I know Sorensen is a high score but the two games that I've seen Kawaleski has really stood out he has 6 South lead this by one is Bergamon drives and scores well he spotted an opening and with his quickness there was no way that Jason Alcox is going to stay with him it's been Nate Bergamon's third quarter Sorensen with the drive answers big hoop right there cuts the lead to 1 Sorensen with 9 for the Trojans Sorensen was open momentarily on the cut didn't feel comfortable going to the basket Stubbe with the drive left handed shot no good and then a tied up jump ball goes to Southwest if he goes to the right which obviously couldn't do that time but if he goes to the right with that kind of shot it's going to be in important possession here Southwest trailing 27 to 28 there you see a good shot the offensive temple is definitely picked up here in the third quarter Jason Alcox with the basketball Kawaleski again this shot no good but Tom Alcox with the rebound and a foul called on Bergamon that's going to be his third 3 on number 3 good defense by Mark Wolfely stepped back to help on the back cut and he recovered on Kawaleski to put some pressure on his shot which he missed polls with the ball now Tom Alcox inside cut Sorensen and he'll call Wolfely on the foul Nolan's a starter Stu but he's not much of a scoring threat and the south really hasn't been respecting him on the offensive side with the other Alcox in the ball game Tom they have to put a little more respect on his production than they do Nolan Sorensen and Southwest leading score and he's shooting two nothing but court on the first and the game's tied at 28 Brian Hemsing checking in for Bergamon coach wanting to give him a rest he can stay in the ball game I mean a cell stay is close maybe give him a rest these last couple minutes and have him start the fourth quarter with only three fouls Sorensen hits both free throws he has 11 and Southwest regains the lead at 29-28 Kerwin 17 footer notches it having a big quarter with five points eight on the night Stu be playing tough on the defense event Alcox to Alcox to Alcox Jason Alcox on the drive Kawaleski easy hoop there's another axiom in basketball Stu that whenever you help on defense you have to recover help is no good if you don't recover and that's what Wolfle did there he didn't recover Stu be long bomb outside no good Kerwin with the rebound and a foul on Tom Alcox his fourth so Masperin's going to be in order for Mr. Kerwin after this one's over he got knocked in the head in the first half now he catches a finger or something in the eye he's going to be okay he's a really a tough kid really nice kid too Stu I had a chance to meet him around Christmas time at my relatives and kind of a tough move for him he's raised in Watertown for the most part and had to leave his friends to come to South but I think he's really enjoying at least his basketball experience and I'm sure the rest of his experience here in Sheboygan Ryan Hemsing in the game for South you'll inbound Rodgers with the balls knocked away by Chad Wyman and now Southwest with a chance to add to their lead a really good patience here by Sarnsino's wide open from about 17 or 18 feet Kamalasky in the lane scores again 8 points in a quarter you got to get a body on him they double teamed him earlier he's starting to burn him here in the third quarter 33-30 Southwest lead Stu be for three he started off the rim tracks down his own rebound now in the lane tried to pass knocked out a bounce to Southwest he spotted Hemsing underneath and tried to get him the ball but Ryan wasn't able to handle it and went on a bounce off of him substitutes here with a minute 19 to go in the quarter excellent crowd here tonight very vocal Eric Strandberg in for South as is Zach Leiter well this is an important minute 15 seconds with Bergman out of the game Gertz works free underneath misses the lap well he got the wrong guy there Leiter was the guy that caught him pretty good but Iskin's going to get the ball I'd love to see the replay on that I know you hate it when I disagree with you Marty but Leiter had the jump ball and Iskin really came across with a chop big chop on that one I don't think so I think you're blocked out by the monitor there watch that replay we talked to Kerry about the replay he said the rebuilding machine isn't working about 10.45 tomorrow morning you'll be able to catch that one well the replay will verify that I'm right again looking forward to that soda you're going to buy again next week Southwest the inbound minute seven to go in the quarter Nolan went deep to Jason Alcox Southwest has their big lineup in a duo of 6 6 6 7 on the floor right now Gertz and Poles Poles at the top with the ball didn't even look inside that time Stu you might have had the lap pass 40 seconds to go Poles jump shot no good ball knocked out of bounds by Gertz and so South won't have a shot with 36.6 in the quarter well this is a long time for a high school team keep possession of the ball let's see if they can do it 30 seconds to go Wolf will with the basketball looks like South will play for one here that was a hard pass Strandberg with good hands to hang on to that one Hemsing just about traveled now Alcox with a steal Ennelea under 10 on another turnover Wyman before the buzzer so a 6 point 35 30 Green Bay Southwest the top ranked team in the state trying to hold off Sheboygan South South trails and has the ball stewby launches a three in and out Rogers rebound inside scores good little pump fake got the shot up and over Gertz I believe it was that was a huge play for this juncture of the game four points for Rogers Nolan goes inside to Gertz Coleski getting an extended rest here so he set out the last minute or two of the third quarter and a foul will go against Jason Alcox and Southwest with their fifth team foul make that sixth team foul and now Alcox is second personal South with a chance to tie a correction on the foul call that was Coles that was nailed for the personal stewby on a back cut but Nolan did some good defense but didn't recover to the corner stewby shot just short Cox couldn't control the rebound tried to throw it off itself defender and missed and it's Red Wing basketball I know a stewby is out there trying real hard and he's got some great looks Boy it would be huge to have him nail a three pointer long inbound pass in defense looking at a two three zone and Bergman recognized what was happening and now they're getting their offense set Nate Bergman for three and it's a tie game at 35 640 left in the quarter with 11 on the night plus a bunch of steals and assists Wolf will tough inside on the defense I know you can't see it on your screen but he's really playing hard knocked loose by Rogers Bergman comes up with a basketball and they're going to call a travel Dan Coopman not happy about that call at all we were screened there's Smiley Hamer talking to Nate Bergman telling him to bold your composure score is still tied 35 all 610 to go in the ball game knocks another one away and South comes up with a basketball Bergman thought he had a long pass to Wolf will but passed it up and rightfully so Nolan just about had a steal going the other way Stuby in the corner will bring it out Southwest back in a man to man Stuby now on the right side South being very patient with this possession last time they did this they wound up getting a nice layup by Wolf inside pass was knocked eventually mishandled two South players were open and knocked it out of the other's hand I was going to say that was the problem right there Kerwin and Rogers were underneath there and they mixed each other up an empty possession for South and Southwest brings it the other way 520 to go Stu Hoppensperger along with Mike Martin it's been nip and tuck most of the way the biggest lead either team has had has been 8 points Stuby inside scores and is fouled he's got 10 points and a half 12 for the game and he's a person inside all of his points have come in the paint I figured the 6-6 and 6-7 guys would be doing most of the damage there but that hasn't been the case he's a good player hits the free throw to complete the 3-point play he has 13 points and it's a 3-point Southwest lead because he makes those short jump shots and doesn't take it to the basket very much he doesn't shoot a lot of free throws that was his first tonight and he only had 3 in the North game a couple weeks ago Bergman got hung up now a long shot by Stuby good for 3 and a tie game third 3 of the night for Stuby he said with 9 points let's hope we can get him hot down the stretch Sorensen tries to answer from 3 short Stuby with a rebound one of the few 3-point attempts by Southwest here tonight Sal's spreading the floor looking for cutters inside Rogers out to Stuby fakes the 3 nothing on the drive he'll bring it back out Bergman in the corner long shot no good rebound Kowalski you can credit Sorensen with the big part of that defensive effort by staying on his feet by the on the shot fake from Stuby Kurtz got away with the travel but comes up short South with another rebound they've really cut off the offensive rebound into Southwest in the second half they really have and a lot of that goes to the fact that South is quicker and they're really doing a good job of blocking out Irwin out front not a waffle and a timeout called four by Sheboygan South three minutes 21 seconds remaining in the ballgame we're all tied at 38 one remaining in the fourth quarter 38 38 the score is the number one rated team in the state Green Bay Southwest having all they can handle tonight in Sheboygan South and regardless of what happens tonight another big game looming for Southwest next week Friday night if they are to prevail here tonight they could basically clinch a conference title with a win at Manitowoc next Friday however with a loss here that would be a game that would decide first place in the league so anyway you look at it next Friday night Manitowoc will be another big game that's a game worth driving up to watch in the field house in Manitowoc I know still you've talked about possibly going up there I know it's a huge game in the conference and two really good teams we have a large crowd here tonight watching a couple of good teams putting in really good efforts and a foul called on Sorensen will be his third personal foul that's a sixth foul the next foul on Southwest is going to send Sheboygan South to the line Bergaman inbounding oh yeah he had Kerwin open for what looked like a 15 foot jumper but didn't get it to him soon enough just over three minutes to go against South being very patient trying to get a good look on this possession clock now under three minutes Bergaman cut hard to the basket that time looked like he was open momentarily Rogers 15 footer scores Rogers had six nice little pop back jumper and nailed it two point lead Welleski inside short but call for a foul is Wolfle and that'll be four on Mark Wolfle Welleski's really been a force this half they were double teaming him a little bit in the third quarter they kind of got away from that here in the fourth quarter and he's hurting him rolls in the first free throw player that scored for Southwest here in the fourth quarter well they had a bad first half of shooting free throws four out of eight but so far they're four out of four here in the second half a two for two trip for Cowaleski and we're tied again at 40 all 225 on the scoreboard clock Stubbe will try the drive jump shot from 15 good Stubbe has 11 field goal from inside the arc Sorenson for three no good Stubbe strong rebound under two minutes to go South by two they have the ball what a game Stubbe with a great shot that last possession Bergamot double team lost the ball call for the travel well he got jumped at time by Alcox Jason Alcox number three and he wasn't expecting it that's what forced the turnover Casey Zacowski will take time out minute 40 to go at South 42 Southwest 40 I guess we're staying with it Mr. Martin might as well take a look at the South Huddle well that was a big possession it's just unfortunate that South wasn't able to get a good attempt at the basket or run clock another good point because there's only a minute 40 left and really the entire contest every possession has really been huge having both teams only score 82 points and now at the minute 40 those possessions will be even larger South has a couple things going in their favor they have a foul to give and they are in the bonus and they're in the lead most importantly the only thing they don't have is the basketball right now the last with the ball the number one ranked team in the state they're playing by two late in the ballgame Tom Alasky's been money in the second half and ties the game at 42 he has 17 we've seen this time and again from Southwest they look for the screener and that's what happened there he set a back stream for Sorenson and he popped open in the low post 115 to go tie game at 42 better do something blocking foul on Kerwin don't get a technical call you're in the ballgame Nate Sorenson or I'm sorry Sorenson was a player who was involved in that but the foul call goes against Kerwin a tough call to make with a tie ballgame that's for sure under a minute to go Sorenson from three in and out Kerwin with the rebound Well Sorenson helped out Pergamon because he slept down he helped out on Tom Alasky and he didn't get back on defense and that left Sorenson wide open we got a whistle Saul takes a timeout still barking at the rep we'll keep it right here 44.6 seconds to go and Mr. Martin what do you do here play for one, a lot of time left I think you play for the open shot look for something down low they had real good success like that in the third quarter when they ran a lot of clock and they wound up getting Wolfle wound up getting Wolfle on a back cut for a layup they had an opportunity with Rogers and Kerwin on a similar thing but they lost it out of bounds I just think that 44 seconds is too long for a high school team to run out the clock especially playing against a team that has been very strong defensively all night long really challenges the passing lanes and as we've seen a couple of different times have converted on knocking the ball away or stealing passes and then getting the easy lap we saw a lot of that when Coach Kupman had taken some of his starters out of the game and they just weren't used to playing against that kind of quickness with the five he's got in right now it could happen obviously because Southwest is good on defense and they're very quick but these kids seem to come to the ball a little harder and have a little better sense of what to do Jason Alcox pressuring Bergamon not letting him get the ball on the inbound now Bergamon at 40 seconds Stubbe for three Goal Stubbe from the right side at 33 seconds South by three and Green Bay Southwest wants time out he popped open off the baseline and was wide open he squared up beautifully and took that shot and he nailed it he's talking to my brother Tim former coach at Nina High School just the other night and something that he said makes a lot of sense concerning that play right there you got a letter shooter keep shooting Stubbe had a little bit of a cold second quarter he hasn't had a real great shooting year but he's been money here in the second half tonight and one of the things is when you got a kid that can shoot it and he certainly can you got to make plays and get him open and there was an excellent example of setting screens for your shooter and getting him open Stubbe has 14 on the night four of them on three point baskets and perhaps the biggest shot of his career at the 33 second mark here at the fourth quarter has given south the 45 42 lead he's been huge here in the fourth quarter with eight points he finished the first half with six on two three pointers play the tough D boys that's what you got to do with 27 seconds left there's a lot of things to remember south west to inbound the basketball we're under 25 this is Jason Alcox in the lane travel called on travel Alcox south has the ball with 21 seconds to go great defense by Gerlin he cut off the driver and forced to travel and Hemsing checking in what they're doing there they're taking out a big guy for a ballhandler with 21 seconds left and a better free throw shooter you got to get the ball in right now 21 seconds to go Stubbe breaks free he has the ball and he's fouled with 18.5 to go fourth ball on Sorenson and we got to have a couple free throws here he's got to make the first because it's the old time one-on-one and Hemsing checks out and they're bringing a rebounder defender in in Wolfville good substitution pattern right there by Kupman 18.5 seconds away from the biggest upset of the season and probably one of the bigger victories at this gym and fans in this gym have ever witnessed Stubbe's free throw hard off the rim now good, rebound by Rogers Gerlin knocked out one loose Rogers came up with the loose ball and now Bergamins fouled now we saw the same thing happen when South played Manitz's walk and that rebound went over Gerlin's head this time it went over the South West players head and South was able to capture it you remember all the times from the time you played a cool ball on how coaches said free throws are going to decide games Nate Bergamins will go to the line he's shooting about 60 percent on the season well coming in for Southwest and I mentioned this in the first half he's number 23 Adam Dudek he's a good long-range shooter you got to keep an eye on him but I'll tell you Bergamins can make at least one here it's a two-possession ballgame be fitting to see him put a couple in he's really been the architect of this upset he's done it all tonight but short on the free throw loose ball Bergamins saves this is Stubbe we're at 10 seconds and another foul I'll tell you they're playing with fire school I wish I could get a couple of free throws in well I guess if you're going to miss miss some log that's two consecutive offensive rebounds off the free throw and another time out by Southwest now nine seconds to go 20 second time out so we'll keep it here you know it's amazing studio coaches go through the whole week analyzing how players play and how they're going to design their defense and what they're going to run an offense with X's and O's and then it boils down to something as simple as a free throw I almost get a sense that I don't think they would do it or talk about it because you want to be positive and get the mid free throw with nine seconds to go on a miss free throw a foul on South Park but almost make more sense I don't think I don't like that because then you bring the ball down here on the offensive end you also can't allow a tie two free throws doesn't tie the game well not right away let's make the free throw and then it'll be a mute point there it is Stubbe hits his first you'll get another he has 15 and South leads by four you still have to play solid defense there you see nine seconds left exactly second is also good South by five nine seconds now eight under five Sorensen good defense no good ball out of bounds one tenth of a second to go can you say upset Nate Bergman played great defense Sorensen did the pump fake to get him off his feet and he never left his feet he just hung tight on him and that's the ball there it is ball game over Sheboygan South with the biggest upset of the year knocking off the number one ranked team in the state of Wisconsin Green Bay Southwest the final South 47 Southwest 42 Mike Martin is heading over to find a few players to interview and we'll be back with a post game wrap up right after this Sheboygan South stunned the number one rated team in the state of Wisconsin Green Bay Southwest the final score 47-42 Mike Martin standing by with two of the heroes from tonight's ball game Mike joining me over here is Nate Bergman and Ryan Stubbe and a great win tonight Ryan that was a great win we played a lot of good defense and we held so much 42 points so I mean we came out and just knew we had to play defense we talked to Coach Sakowski prior to the game and one of the things he said he needed to do was to stop the penetration by you well that number three Alcox was something he's a great defender probably second best in the league I think I'd probably be the first but yeah he stopped my penetration but our 5-0 really opened things up for us our new offense what did you guys do on offense that was different than what you used to do because I know you played a blocker you kept two guys inside what about the 5-man motion is that what that is yeah we tried to spread out the floor so that we can idolize our quickness and that's what we kind of did you know we spread out the floor let our shooters shoot and let me penetrate so we can spot up and shoot now you nailed some three pointers tonight you've had a little trouble with the three ball this year yeah I've been working on my shot in practice for a long time I've been in the weight room I think that's helped me I get a little more aggressiveness and stuff and at the end in the corner I just felt it and I let it go we talked towards the end of the game with 44 seconds left and you guys had the ball what should you do I mentioned I think they should take the first open look they got and they worked to get you open Ryan what do you think about it did Coach talk about it that last time out there well actually Coach kind of wanted us to work a little more about a couple passes and he was feeling it so he stroked and he came up big for us tonight now Ryan mentioned before about the good defense and that's really what won you the ball game tonight yeah prior to the game Coach Lierman repeatedly said that our best offense that would be a great defense and it was clearly a battle of defense tonight whoever played better defense was going to get the win and I think we did it I know both of you boys are looking forward to the North-South game coming up next Saturday but you have a game on Friday don't forget about that one you've got to win that one first that's the more important one right now yeah he's going to be tough and they beat us here obviously coming into our South game and playing tough guys I want to thank you for stopping over great game great effort by both of you boys and all of your team mates we mentioned a little bit about Rogers and Wolf will before we came on the air they played good interior defense but thanks a lot for stopping over and we're going to send it back to Stu congratulations fellas 47-42 the final tonight Sheboygan South with the victory with the win the Red Wings now go to 8-1 in league play 8-6 overall the loss for Southwest their first of the year they're now 8-1 in league play and 12-1 overall Ryan Stubbe leading the way tonight for the Red Wings he had 16 Nate Bergman added 11 Josh Kerwin with 8 also Chris Rogers scoring 6 Mark Wohlfels 4 and Chad Iskin added a bucket to total 18 to lead all scores and then Nate Sorensen with 11 but a huge win for Sheboygan South they don't get any better than this and that will about wrap it up I don't know what more you can say about this one it was a great one congratulations to our crew another fantastic job I want to thank you all for joining us for my partner Mike Martin I hope you enjoyed this WSCS classic Sal's defense really made the difference and Stubbe making some threes the Red Wings were able to defeat the No. 1 ranked Trojans they did not leave Sheboygan Rank No. 1 also isn't it great to see all those familiar faces at the game you still see many of those same people at the field house today as they are loyal South followers our next classic will feature women's bowling from 2001 it is a classic 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Lately we've been talking a lot about the adjustment brush inside of lightning and today I want to continue that conversation With one more tip that I think you'll really really like and this one is something that I don't use a lot But every once in a while it does come in handy and it can make for a really dramatic effect and basically what I'm trying to do in a photograph is create this sort of ambiance or This kind of candlelight or atmosphere look to the feet to the photograph and It doesn't matter whether you can see the Sun or not see the Sun It really doesn't matter if it's a landscape or a portrait this trick will work with any of those things You just have to use a little bit of imagination But I'm going to show you a few different ways or a few different photographs that you can use this trick and then You can take it and run with it as you will So let's jump into Lightroom and show you exactly what it is. I'm talking about so for starters I think I'm going to begin with what would probably be the Easiest photograph and the one that's most obvious because in this photograph. I actually do have a light source there is a sunburst in the top of the photograph and whenever you have An image where you know where the Sun is actually coming from whether there's a burst or you can just see The Sun peeking up over a mountain or you know that it was in the corner of a photograph or something like that This trick becomes a little bit easier So we're going to start with this one and it's really simple. The first thing you want to do is Make your photograph small. So I'm going to go to maybe about one eighth You know if you need to make the image smaller You can definitely do that then we're going to jump into our adjustment brush And the idea of this trick is to make your brush really large. So that way it makes for a really nice soft light The other thing you want to do is make sure that your feathering is All the way up to a hundred percent and you want to make sure that the automask feature is actually turned off on This trick so once you have dialed in those settings if you're curious you can play with flow or play with density That's really up to you The ones that are most important is the size of the brush and the feathering on the brush So I'm going to start with a really large brush and I'm going to just put my little Center of the adjustment brush right where the Sunburst is and I'm going to just click one time and that's going to apply The adjustment if I turn the show Selected overlay mask button on you can do that by hitting the letter. Oh, you'll see that pretty much the entire photograph is Going to be affected here, but we can control kind of how much that effect is or isn't so let's turn that Overlay off and here's where the magic happens What we're going to do is we're going to start by Lifting up our exposure a little bit and just by doing this you can start to see that glow happen Another thing that I want to do is introduce a little bit of color to this So I'm going to go up to temperature and I'm going to pull that up and warm this up it's optional whether or not you want to apply tint or For some green or red effect you can kind of play with that and see what you like since there's a lot of greenery in here I will add a little bit of Green tint to this glow and the other thing that I that I typically like to do is I like to go to the dehaze slider now usually you find people going into the plus To remove haze, but I'm actually going to go towards the minus to introduce haze Because if you've ever looked at sunlight, especially when it's coming through trees or things like that The light actually creates this sort of atmosphere Because of the particles or dust in the air the more light there is the more atmosphere there is and we can Intensify that to add even more ambiance to the photograph, so I'm going to go and maybe just add about a negative You know two three you don't really need a lot. I'd probably say no more than negative five is plenty Once you've created these settings. We can go to the opacity by holding down our Alt or Option key hovering over the pin and Dialing this back a little bit if you don't know how to do this or you need a little bit more We've created a video on how you can control the opacity of your adjustment But we're going to do it here just by holding the Alt or Option dragging left or right and you can see how that really Gives us control as to how much of this ambiance do we really want and if I just toggle this adjustment on and off You can see what a nice glow that adds to the photograph and you can you know play with the settings and dial this into Perfection, but this is the trick and you can apply this to a number of photographs So let me show you how this works when you have a photo where there isn't a sunburst so Here I've got this road and At the back of the road I want there to appear as though there's some ambiance or some glow happening in this photograph I'm going to just make my brush slightly a little bit smaller and I'm going to do the exact same thing I'm just going to put my cursor where I want the radius of this Glow to begin and I'm going to just click one time on the photograph and From here I can go and dial in my exposure. So I'm going to I'm going to pull the exposure up I'm going to add some temperature to warm that up maybe even add a little bit of green to this and then Reduce the haze to add a little bit more Glow or atmosphere there. I could also, you know add a little clarity or anything else that I feel is necessary But here's a quick before and after of what that looks like in this photograph here Really nice. I like I like how it adds that light and as a last tip I can always go and dial down the opacity so that it looks a little bit more natural and even with this being nice and soft If I toggle this adjustment on and off you can see how Effective this trick really is one last one since we're on it. We're going to go to another photograph I know that the light source was coming up over the mountains You can see here in the very very back. This was a sunrise You can see that glow starting to happen right behind the mountains back here So on this one though I'm going to make the brush size a little bit smaller because I don't want the glow to be so dramatic I just want a little kiss of light happening right here where the mountains kind of me and merge right there at that Center point so I'm going to go up here and click one time and Then I will dial in my exposure. So we'll pull the exposure up That looks pretty good. Maybe add just a little bit of warmth I'm not going to do anything with the tint on this one but I will dial back the haze just for a little bit more of atmosphere and then I'll go into my Opacity and I'll just dial this back just a little bit So here's a quick before and after of that adjustment and like I said, you could use this on portraits as well So I don't have a portrait here But I do have a picture of this bobcat and I could do the same thing I could make a really big brush and this is just for creative effect. This isn't really For anything other than just adding some kind of mood or drama to this portrait And again, I'll pull the haze back and Reduce the opacity just a little bit And there you have it So if we do a quick before and after another thing is that you can always reposition this This brush so if you feel like it's not in the perfect spot You can just click on the pin and kind of move it around and as I do you can see how the effect Begins to change So if you don't feel like you clicked in the right spot Don't freak out you can just click on the pin and move it around and get it right into the place You want the one thing you can't do is you can't expand or or make the brush larger after the fact So if you wanted to make a brush bigger if you decided that you needed it larger and softer I would just delete the pen and then expand it To the desired size in Photoshop you have more flexibility with that kind of stuff But in the sense of making this as easy as possible We're just doing it in Lightroom if you're curious to see How this works inside of Photoshop and the other creative Options that you have for using this trick in Photoshop. Leave us a comment down below We'd love to show you this trick in that platform But in the meantime have fun creating some candlelight and some mood Hopefully you enjoyed this video if you did give it a big thumbs up And if you haven't already done so subscribe to our channel where we'll have a lot more content coming to you soon As always, thank you so much for your support. We'll catch you in the next episode. My name is Adam This is photo nerd University. I'm out


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Hi, this is your host of LimbHartia and welcome to a brand new episode of our series, TfHire topic of the month, AKA T3M. And this month's topic is platform engineering is DevOps there. And who is better to talk about this topic than Austin Parker, head of developer relations at LightStep Austin. It's great to have you back on the show. It's wonderful to be here. It's been a little bit, but it's always great to talk to you. How would you define that from engineering? Because when we were at KubeCon, there are some companies who had DevOps is that I don't actually look at the labels that much. What I look at is that modern companies are embracing modern technologies and they are trying to solve some problems internally. And there are some ground realities versus what I be here and what we see. So let's hear from you. Quite simply, I think that platform engineering is, really it's a specialty of engineering, right? Like you might be a back-end engineer, you might be a front-end engineer. I think you can be a platform engineer. And a platform engineer is someone that is building tools and platforms to help developers do their job more efficiently, help them unlock sort of the potential that exists within the cloud and all these really cool abstractions that we've built over it. And it's someone that is really laser focused and sort of that experience of developing, right? Making it easier for other people to do their jobs. Talk a bit about this discussion which started already and then, you know, media was also covering, you know, that platform engineering and DevOps is gone. How do you see that once again, not only because Lightest of Youth, for example, yourself are tech company, but not only company like this, but also your users and customers. What actually is happening within these teams? Why are we talking about these labels? I think there's a trend in software, especially, you know, kind of in this bleeding edge cloud native world to try to get ahead of sort of terms, right?  And we're making this sort of fundamental attribution error, right? Like DevOps isn't dead, DevOps isn't gone because you can't kill what is really sort of a cultural thing, right? Let's think about where DevOps came from and let's like look back in history, you know, 20, 30 years ago, and I say 20, 30 years ago, but there are still places that do this today where if you walked into your job as a software developer, as a backend engineer or something, you sat down and said, okay, I'm gonna write code today and I'm gonna write code tomorrow and that's all you're really doing.  And what we've realized as professionals trying to build products to help people to improve customer experience, whatever you wanna say, we've realized that actually, no, you need to know, you need to like think about that deployment side, right? You need to think about like, where is my code running? What are the capabilities of the underlying hardware and databases and so on and so forth? And as a developer, I need to own my code beyond just like writing it into the IDE and saving it. And that is what DevOps is. DevOps is really that shared responsibility. It's that shift left of moving things that formerly were someone else's responsibility more towards the place where we write the code so that we have more ownership over what we're actually doing in production. And that lets us not only be more efficient and effective because now I don't have to have, I don't have these silos of knowledge and experience and whatever else. Now I can actually take advantage of all of these cool things we're building in the cloud, right? I can take advantage of really neat database abstractions or external APIs or whatever because we're being able to pull sort of the development in the operations world closer together. And platform engineering is a compliment to that, right? Platform engineering is me saying as an engineer, well, I'm gonna work on building a better platform to do DevOps on, right? To enable or to accelerate DevOps culture inside my organization. I do remember, you know, we had a discussion where you were saying that, you should not even have DevOps in your title. So if once again, going back to the ground reality, should you have platform engineering in your title? And if yes, why? I think, yeah, no, I think, you know, you can't have DevOps in your title, right? Because DevOps is this cultural thing, but platform engineer, sure, right? You can be a senior platform engineer. You can be a junior platform engineer. I think there's a lot of overlap there with sort of site reliability engineering. And these are, you know, not quite two sides of the same coins, but certainly if you are interested in SRE, platform engineering is going to be like very appealing to you as kind of a, you know, area of focus. But absolutely, like platform engineering is a crucial part of unlocking, you know, more productivity, better end user experience, just better, like more happiness, really, I think. You know, if we look at the categories of stuff that you're supposed to deal with in platform engineering, like how easy is it to really deploy code? How easy is it to understand what my code is doing in production? How hard is it to profile things or to kind of get this end to end understanding what's going on in prod? You know, these are features that platform engineers can deliver to sort of their end users, right, to their developer audiences. And that's all absolutely crucial stuff if you're trying to make it, you know, make the actual practice of programming better for your colleagues and coworkers. So absolutely, like you can be a platform engineer and you can go and build these cool platforms. I think the interesting thing, and this is what I see a lot of our customers, you know, grappling with right now, is that it's the rate of change of technology and this idea that how are you going to build a platform that's kind of better than the off-the-shelf stuff, right? And that's a whole other conversation, but it's something that you need to consider on your journey towards platform engineering. Let's just look at it from a different perspective that are these like platform engineering and DevOps, like opposite pools, is it platform engineering versus DevOps or is it like one is just a subset of once again cultural thing? How would you look at that? The way I like to think of it is that DevOps is sort of a foundational thing, right? Or I also, I say this about observability as well. Like it's a, you know, it's kind of like sand or water or air. It's something that fills in all the gaps and fills in around everything else in your org. So if you think about DevOps as being sort of this this ether almost where it's just like, this is something that we are doing as an organization or as a team, as a company, then platform engineering is a concrete realization of that. If you have a DevOps culture and you are, you know, have an organization that's focused on DevOps, then you can build platform engineering in that.  Like you can't build like really, and there's a lot of like hand in hand here, right? Like if you're platform engineers want to say like, okay, we're gonna build this cool portal or this really neat continuous profiling system for you and make it very accessible to developers, then that's also gonna start pulling in from all these other things.  You know, that's the engineering aspect of this, right? Is that you're building up this kind of set of layers almost where someone, and then building like a really nice UI and UX on it for your developers to come in and say like, okay, when I deploy, now I get all this stuff for free rather than having to kind of build it all myself every time. But you don't get there without having that commitment to DevOps. You don't get there having that commitment to observability. So this is the fundamental thing. You know, we need to flip our thinking and stop thinking about like DevOps as a product or observability as a product.  These are states of mind more so than products or features. And then things like platform engineering and you know, unified telemetry and open telemetry and stuff like that. Those are what is on top of that foundation. Since you have a title developer relations we also talk about developer experience because if you look at ops team, security team there are certain teams who are very calculated very methodological, very mechanical or mathematical but then there are also teams, I mean, we used to call developers as poets or artists because they are creating something new. So the way they look at things could be different. So how much important should there be when we do talk about platform engineering or DevOps or move to these teams to also kind of create that developer experience or is there a such thing as developer experience or the culture which kind of promotes that whole because innovative because that's you're creating something new you're trying to solve a problem there. That's interesting. I think one thing, you know, to pluck on one thread we talk about developer experience and a lot of times I've seen this in organizations that's saying like, you know, we expect you to come in and we think our developer experience is so good for you know, internal platforms that you can make a pull request in your first day, you can ship code to prod within 48 hours of starting and that's great. But I also think that like an important part of developer experience is how easily can I find information about something, right? Like how good are the docs? First time that I, you know, I go into somewhere and the first time you're on call, first time you take the pager like and you do get an alert, you know, how easy is it to actually understand that alert and to find the right dashboards or find the right documentation that helps you understand like what's going on and what do I need to do to fix it? I think it's very easy to kind of get caught up in this mindset of, you know, we're talking about developer experience, we're just talking about like lines of code or we're talking about, you know, efficiency and performance, but there's a whole, you know, there's that creative aspect you talked about. There's also like the, being a librarian, right? Like you could be a platform engineer and you're, I think there's like tons of value in being a platform engineer whose entire goal is just like improved developer documentation for internal users. I think there's parts that are improve the accessibility of platforms, right? For people with varying, you know, not everyone is the same type of learner. Some people are going to come in and they're going to be very, like you said, very focused on sort of the math and the algorithms and they're going to have a mind that works one way but you're probably going to have a pretty diverse team and how do you make the developer experience accessible to people on your team that aren't, you know, that don't have the same background as you, right? Both in cultural or educational or whatnot. So there's a surprising amount that can go into the concept of a platform and what developer experience actually means. And that's something that we should keep in mind as we think about how to grow these teams and how to grow this practice in the industry. Austin, once again, thank you so much for explaining things so beautifully as usual and talk about this screen and I look forward to our next discussion. Thank you. Thank you. It's great to be on.


From Austin, Texas, it's theCUBE, covering Pure Storage Accelerate 2019, brought to you by Pure Storage. Hi, Lisa Martin with theCUBE, Dave Vellante's Mako host. We are at Pure Accelerate 2019 in Austin, Texas. One of our CUBE alumni is back with us. We have Rob Lee, the VP and Chief Architect at Pure Storage, Rob, welcome back. Thanks for having me back. It's great to be here. We're glad you have a voice. We're challenging these events are with about 3,000 partners, customers, press, everybody wanting to talk to one of the men that was on the keynote stage. Yesterday, four announcements came out. Really enjoyed yesterday's keynote, but let's talk about one of those announcements in particular, Pure's Bridge to the Hybrid Cloud. Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, no, I mean, I think it's been a really exciting conference for us so far, like you said, a lot of payload coming out. As far as building the Bridge to the Hybrid Cloud, this has been, I would say, a long time coming. We've been working down this path for a couple of years. We started by bringing some of the cloud-like capabilities that customers really wanted and were able to achieve into the cloud back into the data center. So you saw us do this in terms of making our on-prem products easier to manage, easier to use, easier to automate. But working with customers of the last couple of years, what we realized is that as the cloud hype kind of subsided and people were taking a more measured view of where the cloud fits into their strategies, what tools it brings, we realized that we could add value in the public cloud environment, the same types of enterprise capabilities, the same type of features, rich data services, feature sets, things like that, that we do on-premise in the cloud. And so what we're looking to achieve is actually quite simple. We want to give customers the choice, whether customers want to run on-premise or in the cloud, that's just a choice of, we want to make an environmental choice. We don't want to put customers in a position where they have to make that choice and feel trapped in one location or another because of lack of features, lack of capabilities, or economics. And so the way that we do that is by building the same types of capabilities that we do on-prem in the cloud, giving customers the freedom and flexibility to be agile. But you mentioned economics, and you were talking from a customer standpoint, I want to flip it from a technology supplier standpoint. The economics of a vendor who traditionally sells on-prem, you would think would be better than one in the cloud because you pay on Amazon for all their services or I guess the customer's paying for it. But you kind of saw your way through that. A lot of companies would be defensive. And I wonder if you could add any comment to that. Yeah, no, I mean, so look, I think the hardware is only one piece of it. At the end of the day, even our products on-prem are really, they're really priced for value, right there. We're delivering value to customers in our capabilities, our ease of use, our simplicity, the types of applications and workflows we enable. And basically everything I just said is pretty much driven by software features. By bringing those same capabilities into the cloud, naturally we, naturally most of that work is really in software. And then as far as comparing the economics directly of on-prem versus cloud, it's really no secret as the industry's gotten more understanding that the cloud isn't the low-cost option in a lot of use cases, right? And so rather than comparing apples to apples on-prem versus cloud, either on performance or economics, right? Our goal is really to build the best product in either environment. So if a customer wants to run on-prem, we want to build the best darn product in that environment. If a customer wants to run in the public cloud, we want to build the best darn product for them in that environment. And increasingly, as customers want to use both environments hand-in-hand, we want to build the right capabilities to allow them to seamlessly do that. Well, I think it makes sense because, as you know, we're talking to some customers last night and they ask them what they have in their data center and they got a lot of stuff in their data center to the extent that a company like Pure can say, okay, you've got simple, fast, et cetera on-prem and that we've now extended that to the cloud, your choice, they're going to spend more with you than they are with the guys that fight that. Yeah, absolutely. And I think if you look at our approach and how we've built the products and how we're taking them to market, we've taken a very different approach than some of the competitive set. In some ways, we've really just extended the same way that we think about innovation in product engineering from our existing on-prem portfolio into the cloud, which is we look for hard problems to solve. We take the hard road, we build differentiated products, even if it takes us a little bit longer. You can see that in the product offerings. We've really focused on enabling tier one mission-critical applications. If you look at the competitive set, they haven't started there. The reason why we did that is we knew that we had customers telling us if you're a customer and you want to use the cloud and you want to think about the cloud as a DR site, well, when something goes wrong and you have to fail over to a DR site, you need to be sure that it works exactly the same way there as it did on-prem. That's everything from data services, data path features to all the workflows and orchestration that go around it because when your primary site goes down, it's not the time when you want to be discovering that, oh, there's a footnote on that feature and that's not supported in the cloud version, that sort of thing. And so, like I said, the focus that we've put on the product development that we've done towards cloud block stores really been around creating the same level of enterprise-grade features and enabling those applications in the cloud as we do on-prem. We don't make the Amazon storage, we make the Amazon storage better. What's that commercial? That's essentially what you've done. That's essentially what we've done. And the great thing about that is that we've done it in close partnership with Amazon. We had Amazon on stage yesterday and they were talking a little bit about that partnership process and ultimately I think why that partnership has been so successful is we're both ultimately driven by the same thing, which is customer success. In the early days of working with Amazon as we started coming up with the concept of cloud block store and consulting them on, we're thinking about building it this way, what do you think, what services should we leverage in AWS to make this happen? It became pretty clear to them that we were setting out to build a differentiated product and not just tick off checkboxes. And that's when their eyes really opened and said, hey, we really would like you to do a differentiated product here. Hey, if this takes off, we're going to sell a lot of EC2, S3. What are some of the things, sorry, Dave, that you've been with Pure about six years, what are some of the things that have surprised you pleasantly that the customers have catalyzed from an architecture perspective, that the customer feedback coming back to your team and the guys and girls engineering the product, where customers are demanding a certain thing that maybe wasn't something that was an internal idea, but really was catalyzed by customers. Anything that just really, you think is just very cool or very surprising? Yeah, no, I mean, I think a couple of things. I think personally, one of the things that surprised me was when I joined Pure in 2013, we're all about simplicity, right? You talked to Kaws, who I think you had on the show earlier, in the early days who tell you our differentiator is going to be simplicity. And I got to say, when I first joined the company I was a little skeptical. I was like, all right, I get it. Simplicity is a thing, is it really a differentiator? I very quickly was surprised based on customer feedback that no, it really is very, very meaningful. And that's something that we take all the way through engineering, right? Everything down to how we design features and put them in the user interfaces. If there's an engineer that wants to put a configuration hook or a knob or an option in the user interface, we kind of stop and say, well, gee, how would you document that? How would you suggest a user make a decision to set that value? They'll describe it and say, okay, well, gee, we can make that decision, can't we? Why don't we just make it simpler? And so that's been a big surprise. I think from a customer catalyzed point of view, what I'd say is we've been really surprised at a lot of the use cases that the FlashBlade product has been put into play for. And I think AI was one of them. When we first set out, we had really targeted FlashBlade at addressing a segment of the commercial HPC chip design, hardware design, software development market. And it's actually a set of customers, very large web property customer that came to us with an AI use case. They said, hey, we've got a ton of data, video, images, text postings, and we want to do a lot of analysis of this, right? We want to do facial recognition, we want to do content and sentiment analysis. We've got the GPUs, we think you guys have the right storage product for that. And that's really taken off. And that was very much a customer-driven area. We talked a little bit about that within video yesterday, about some of the customer catalyzed innovation where AI is concerned. Absolutely. What do you see as the critical, technical skills that Pure needs in the next decade? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but you kind of have a networking background, internal networking, I guess. You got guys from Veritas, right? That obviously strong software file system. What do you see as the critical skill? Yeah, that's a good question. We have a very diverse team. We in engineering typically hire and look for people with strong systems backgrounds that are willing to learn and want to solve hard problems. We typically haven't hired very specific domain areas. My background is in language runtimes and compilers, distributed systems, so a bit all over the map. You know what I'd say is that the first phase of Pure, the first kind of decade, was really about reinventing the storage experience. And for me, I look at it as taking lessons from the consumer experience, bringing them into the storage and enterprise world. The iPhone's example that's used a lot, there's a couple of examples you can think of. I think the next phase of what we're trying to do, and you heard Charlie talk about this on stage with a modern data experience, is take some lessons from the cloud experience and bring them into the enterprise. So the first phase was about consumer simplicity for a human. I think the next phase is really about bringing in some more of the cloud experience for enabling automation and DevOps and management orchestration. So what kind of work, I mean you got a lot of work to do to get, we envision this massively scalable distributed system where you have that cloud experience no matter where your data lives. That's not there today. And you don't want to ship your data around, there's going to be too much data. So you want to ship metadata and have the intelligence to bring the compute to that data. What do you got to do? What's the work that you have to do to actually make that seamless, that there's that over used word again? It's not seamless today. Yeah, so look, I mean, I think there's a lot of angles to it. And we're going to work our way there to your point. It's not there today, right? But you're starting to see us lay the groundwork with all the announcements that came up today, right? Under the umbrella of, hey, we want to end up creating a more portable, more seamless, more agile experience for our customers. You can see where as we bring more storage medias into play, different classes of service, different balances of performance and cost, bringing those together in a way so that an application can use them in the right combinations, you know, bringing AI into play to help customers do that seamlessly and transparently is a big part of it. You can see multiple location kind of agility that we were bringing into play with Cloud Block Store, enabled by Cloud Snap and Snapshot Mobility, things like that. And then I think as we move beyond the block world and we look at what we can enable with applications that sit on top of file and object protocols, there's a lot of greenfield there, right? So we think object storage is very attractive and we're starting to see that as the application vendors, as the applications that sit on top of the storage layer are really embracing object storage as the cloud native storage interface, if you will. That's creating a lot of ways to share data, right? We're starting to see it even within the data center where multiple applications now are able to share data because object storage is being used. And so, like I said, there's a lot of angles to this, right? There's bringing multiple discrete arrays together under the same management plane. There's bringing multiple different types of storage media a little bit closer together from a seamless application mobility perspective. There's bringing multiple locations, data centers, clouds together from a migration, a DR perspective. And then there's bringing a global namespace type of capability to the table. And so, it's a long journey, but we think it's the right one. And what we ultimately want to do is have customers be able to think about, be able to provision, be able to manage to not just an array, but really more of like an AZ, right? I want a pool. I want it to be about yay fast, but I'm willing to pay about yay much for it. And I need this types of data protection policies for it. Please make it happen. And anywhere, so you see it as technically feasible to be able to run any app, any workload, on any cloud or on-prem without having to recompile the application, make changes to the application. That's what I really kind of meant by seamless. You see that as technically feasible in the next, call it five to 10 years, I'll give you. I think it'll take a long time, I'll get there. And I think it'll depend on the application, right? I think there are going to be some combinations that, look, I mean, if you have a high frequency, low latency trading database, there's physical limitations. You're not going to run the application here and put the storage in the cloud, right? But if we step back from it, right, the concept, yeah, I mean, I think that a lot of things are becoming possible to make this happen, right? Fast networking is everywhere. It's getting faster, you know, application architectures are making it more feasible. You know, the media costs and what we're able to drive out of the media are bringing a lot more of those workloads to flash. AI is coming into play. So, like I said, it's going to depend on the application, but I think we're entering a phase where the modern software developer doesn't want to have to think too hard about where physically, what six sides of sheet metal is my data sitting on, they want to think about what do I need from it? What do I need from it in terms of capacity? What do I need from it in terms of performance? What do I need from it in terms of data service capabilities, right? And, you know, and I need to be able to control that elastically, I need to be able to control that through my application, through software. And that's kind of what we're building towards. Last question, Rob, as we wrap up here, feedback that you've heard the last day and a half on some of the news that came out yesterday from customers, analysts, partners. Yeah, you know, I'd say if I were to net it out, I think the one piece of feedback we've gotten is, wow, you guys have a lot of stuff, and it's really nice to see you guys talking about stuff that's available today, right? That, you know, a lot of GAs on that screen. A lot of GAs on that screen. And, you know, I think I had an analyst say to me, you know, it's really refreshing to kind of see you guys take A, both, you know, the viewpoint of the customer, what you're delivering to the customer, what you're enabling, and then B, you know, I go to a lot of tech conferences and I hear a lot about like way off in the future and vision, and the feedback we got was you guys had a really good balance of reality today, what you're helping customers with today, what's available today to do that, and enough of the, hey, and here's where we're headed, so. We actually heard the same thing, so good stuff, Rob. Well, congrats on the 10th anniversary, and we appreciate you joining us on theCUBE. We look forward to next year already and whatever city you're going to take us to. Me too, me too, thanks a lot. All right, for Dave Vellante, I'm Lisa Martin. You're watching theCUBE, thanks for watching.