Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-CEO, and I'm here with the lovely official, Miss Jamaica, what's going on, baby? Not my dad.  She's not new to being in front of cameras, I'm pretty sure she used to that too. She's been around for a while, the people know her. Ladies and gentlemen. I ain't never said that before, ladies and gentlemen. Tell your legs, how you doing, baby? I am great, how are y'all? Man, you here, you in the building, man. I'm in here. So, yeah, it's good to meet you. Nice meeting you too.  Yes, sir. Little lady, is she a lady? Lady. Look, I'm a little girl though. You know what? Girl! You find out. No, you ought to be happy about that. I am. For real. I think my parents, I think my parents, too. Are they like that too? Yeah, they look pretty young. Wow, that's dope. Where are you originally from? You from Dallas? I'm originally from Columbus, Ohio. Whoa! A lot of people don't know that. I didn't know that. I'm originally from Columbus, Ohio, and then I grew up in Fort Worth. Oh, you from Stop Six? You know, I mean graduated from Dunbar. Well, it means you would do something to you. You better put your purse up. Don't walk down the alley late at night. Look, I don't do nothing unless I'm alive. She takes her lessons on the move.  I'm with you, I know. For real. So, okay, let's go back. Yes, let's go back. How far back? As far back as you can remember. Damn. Okay. You about to be really talking about something. No. Go ahead. We ain't got nothing but time. Okay, let's do it. Let's do it. How was it growing up in Fort Worth when you were a kid? What about Ohio? Ohio, I don't really remember because I was still very young. That's why she asked as far back as she can remember. It would be Fort Worth for me. That's where I was raised. Okay. How old were you when you got to Fort Worth? Three. Okay. I think I was about... She's straight, Stop Six baby. Let's go. I think it was about three. So, I was raised in Fort Worth. But growing up in Fort Worth, I was always the sore thumb. I was always stuck out. Yeah. I was always very different from everybody. Yeah. Small town, but like I was one of them kids that like I always watched a lot of music videos. I was always like into like music. So, it was like my escape from everything. So, I was the different one. I was the one that kind of was cool with everybody. I'm still like that. I had friends that walk all different walks of life. So, that was me in Fort Worth. I was kind of like the person that was just like neutral to everything. I was cool with everybody. Like I could be with the hood. I could be with the suburb kids. I could be with everybody. Yeah. So, that's how I was raised. And my parents are originally from Michigan. What part? So, my dad's from Jackson. Okay. So, not too far from Detroit. And my mom's from Ann Arbor. Okay. So, we were first generation South. So, being the first kids like in the South, like I was still raised like... Like, you know, like parents of North, it was like a little different. Right. We weren't taught to say like yes ma'am and no sir and stuff like that. Like that's unheard of. It's more looked at as like, this ain't no slave.  That's the way it went down. Yeah. So, we were just raised very different. But then it's like we were in the South. And that's so funny when you said that because I remember my mom moved here from Jamaica. And I would always tell, and the kids would answer her and say, yes ma'am. She's like, don't call me ma'am. Don't call me ma'am. She called me ma'am. But back home I remember when I was a kid and my mom would call me and I'd be like, yes. And my grandma would be like, don't answer how to say yes ma'am. Yes. That's how we, yes ma'am or yes mommy or you know, whatever. Same way. It wasn't just yes. Same way. You know what I mean? So it's just the same thing here. It's just that you can't just be as a child saying yes or no. Yeah, exactly. You have to say it. I was raised the same way. You need to like, like y'all really, let me just be honest with y'all. You niggas man, you know, you niggas better say ma'am and sir and all that. We are in America. Oh, that would make me want to cry. Really? What? She was cringe. Why? She didn't want to be called ma'am. She was like, we are not in the south. Why are you serious? So the south is the only one doing that? Yeah, she felt like that was like a thing. Because of slavery, that's what she was saying. Yeah, she was like, I don't want to be called ma'am. I never thought of that. I thought it was a sign of respect. Right. But you say it's not. It's not. You still think it's not.  I just want to know what you think. Because when you watch a movie. So you vary, you vary just, yeah. I mean. No, you're the young type person. No, I say yes. Yes. It's the same thing. Real flado. I already know you're not really that. No, no, we couldn't say yes. So it's an old, did you go to school here? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You going to talk to me? Yeah. Yeah. We're on boss talk. You know what I'm talking about. So, you know. Yeah. So it's like, so in school did the teacher say yes ma'am? Because this was a thing. Yes, it was. How did you get around it? How did I get around saying that? I was very quiet, actually. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I was a quiet kid. If you was very quiet, you were quiet so you wouldn't have to say yes ma'am. Yeah. I was quiet so I didn't have to answer nobody. I hated being questioned and stuff like this. I was one of those kids that was very much so like to myself and my imagination was like. So you weren't a trouble kid then? No. I wasn't like really a trouble. Or a teacher's pet, which one? Kind of. I was kind of like the teacher's pet, but then I was cool. So I was cool with everybody at the same time. But like my teacher was like, ooh, we just love tater. She's so good. But teenage years was just a little bit different for me. I was, whew, I was wild. What was the wildest thing you did as a teenager? Let me just tell you. She was fast. I can tell what she said. The wildest? No. She was fast. She said it. No. I was fast. Let's talk about wild. What you do? You had a 38? Fights. No. No, I did fight a lot though. Okay. I fought a lot. Boys, girls, anybody. Like you were getting, was it because you were smaller? You were like, I got to get with you. I think it was just like. They'll test you. Yeah, they tested me. Did you ever have a knife? No, I ain't carrying a knife. Well, I got a knife put on me when I was like 11 in Las Vegas. We had just moved up there. And I was, I was bad. You know, I whipped somebody. Yeah, he was bad. So I had a fight with this boy at school, right? I had just moved to Vegas, north side. And I was at school. And Vegas? Yeah. And I was walking home, me and my brother and sister. And the same boy I had fought. I don't know why he lived on my way home. He jumped out with a knife. And was like, what? I was like, whoa. And we were country. We had never seen it like that. And I never walked that way again for about six months. What did you do, your aunt? Yeah. I had to run. And what do you do when somebody put a knife on you? Right. What do you do? You knocked on the bottom. I had no gun or nothing. I already whooped him. See, in Jamaica, you have rocks everywhere. Just pick up a rock and start throwing it. And run. And run. So what did you do that caused you to feel like you was bad? Like the craziest thing that you can remember having? Oh, I moved out of the house when I was 15. Really? You don't look like the type. And you were raised with your mom and dad? I was typically, yeah. Well, my parents lived in two separate homes, but I spent the same amount of time with my mom and my daddy. My daddy was very much so in my life. So you didn't feel like he was absent, so to say? At certain times. How old were you when they broke up? Five. So... Yeah, so for the longest, I felt like it was, you know, like my fault. You know, I blame myself a lot. Why? So that's when you became a troubled child. Yeah, I was a daddy's girl. So when my dad left... And then you stayed with mom? And I stayed with mom, so I felt like, was it because of me? Most kids always feel that way. I didn't feel that way. Are you an only child? No, no. How many of y'all? There's six of us total. And you the youngest? No, I'm in the middle. You're in the middle? Okay. I'm in the middle. So you really, you were basically feeling like, okay, he left because of me and all these other jokers? Well, at the time, it was only me and my two sisters. Okay. And my little brothers came later. Okay. My older half brother. Okay. Okay. And so, yeah. Yeah, I felt like it was, you know, my fault because I was the closest to both of my parents. I'm still like... Did you used to visit like your dad? Yeah, yeah. We spent like summers there. He lived in Fort Worth? No, my dad actually lived in Dallas. So you get to come to the D. What part? Carrollton. Oh, that's the good part. Yeah. So you went from one style of living to the next? Exactly. So my life was always about duality. Right. So like, with my mom, we lived in the projects. We lived on Section 8. Which is dope? We lived on food stamps. Me too.  It made you versatile. No, no, no. It made you strong. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was on food stamps. But then my dad's house, it was totally different. Like, we lived in North Dallas. Yeah. We shopping at Sam's food court. We learned how to sell candy. Like, we doing all kinds of stuff. Entrepreneurship at an early age. Exactly. Stuff like that. But it was different, you know? But back to the projects you go. Yeah. I always had to go back there. I asked your dad, why do we have to live over there? Why can't I live with you? Yeah. And he, yeah. That was a big thing, actually. Like, that was a big question.  He was like, I can't. Like, I'm over here. I have another family as well. Yeah. So, you know. But as a kid, that made you feel probably like an outcast. Yeah. So that's why I was a rebel. Right. I might not good enough to be over here with your other family. Exactly. We about to pull up out of there. But, but go back to. I know what you're trying to do. No, go back to the reason why you say that you, um, as a high school kid, what was the biggest thing that you did? Yeah. And it was living on my own at 15. Well, not necessarily like living by myself, but typically I was alone. Like, I was living with different people. So did you just tell your mom that I'm deuces? I'm gone? Yeah. So what happened was my mom was dating a guy. Like my brother's dad, he was 20 years younger than my mom. So it was almost like having like a bigger, like an older brother in the house. Wow. He wasn't mature at all. He was doing all kinds of stuff. And I was the person that always seen everything. Yeah. You know, and one time I remember I came in the house and he was doing something to my mom. I'm like, yo, if you don't let my mom go, like... Yeah, I'm a kid. It's gonna go down. And you had two older sisters. Where were they? Yeah, so my oldest sister is actually 12 years older than me. So they left. Yeah, so she's gone. She has her own family. Yeah, so she there by herself. Exactly. And then my youngest sister, she's three years younger than me, but she was so young. She don't remember much. So it was me. Right. You know what I mean? So did you jump on him? But my mom was like, no. Of course she did. Yeah. Yeah, and she was like, just leave. And I'm like, just leave. That's like Baby Boy. Yeah, and she was like, just leave. I'm like, for right now. Did you cry? She's like, no, I'll get up out of here. Like, you need to go. And you did. And I left. Did you cry? I did. I cried a lot. Did you... Just like Baby Boy. Just like Baby Boy. He cried too. He cried too. When he was like, you... You picture him. You picture him on me.  Right. Right. Yeah. There you go. It's a great moment for real. Wow. When you see the movie, did you think about it? I did. My cousin did too. Because he called me. He was like, man, that movie hit like home. I was like, damn, I remember he was going through that. He did hit home for me. Like, for real? He was crazy. He was thrown out. I knew he was... I knew it got him. Because he was like, this is the best movie I ever watched in my life. Yeah. He was watching his life. That's right.   Was there ever a time when he tried to hit on you? No. You know, that's a question that my mom still asks me until this day. She's like, did he ever try anything? I said, no, never. If anything, it was more like violent type of things, like trying to discipline us and taking it too far, you know, something like that. It doesn't be the worst one. You know, but it was never nothing inappropriate or anything like that. I see that on... I think it was growing up hip hop where the dude comes in. Just crazy. She was dating Palpa and he was going, all right, we have the family meeting, but they don't know this nigga. Right. It's like, and who were you? They don't know him. He just pulled up on the blind. And that was me. Like, who were you to tell me anything? I got a daddy. So what did your daddy say whenever she put you out? He wasn't trying to hear that anyway. Well, when I originally left, I went to like my godmother's house. I went to her house and she was by herself. It was cool. It was cool. She was by herself. She had a foreign exchange student at her house. She was from Laos. My godmother is from Puerto Rico, like straight from Puerto Rico. So it was like, I had that part of me too. You know what I'm saying? Like I had so many different parts to me. Like when I was in that house, that's how I was raised. You know, like I was raised like... But don't you know that it's only God that was molding you? No, for real. That's the dope part about it. Because I can relate to so many people. Right. He opened up so many avenues to give you that imagination of know how to deal with, as you said, all those... Diversity. Right. And it was always thrown at me. It was always thrown at me. And you dealt with it very well. Yeah. I just dealt with it. I didn't back down from it. I was just like, hey, this is my situation. So... Really? Let's keep it rolling.   I definitely was. So you just really just shifting around town with a bag and a stick. You know what I'm talking about? You ain't lying. Y'all in the gym, man.  Did you finish high school doing all of that? So that's crazy. I dropped out of high school. Get out of here. You don't know that. Yeah. I dropped out for three months. Wow. And I came back into school. It was one of my friends that convinced me like, yo, you need to get back in school. You're too smart for this. You need to graduate, all that. So I ended up getting back in school and... And you were living with your godmother at that time. I don't know where I was at that time. Baby, no. She was shifting and moving it. Yeah, I shifted. Oh, matter of fact, it was a family that took me in. It was a friend of mine that was on the step team. Her mom took me in. That's how you started liking the music? It was how I started liking everything in entertainment. She taught me everything. She taught me how to hustle. That's what I'm thinking. She taught me how to get in the clubs and sell a table to somebody. Oh, really? She taught me all of that. Shout out to what's her name? Oh, I call her Mama. Mama. Shout out to her. Mama. You have so many mamas. I do. I have a lot of mamas. So when this happened, as you started getting into this, okay, you dropped out of high school for three months. You dropped out for three months. Then you come back. I went back to school. I went back to school. Number five in my class. Don't. Awesome. Yeah, with a 3.8 GPA. My daughter needed to be here to hear this. Which she makes straight A's. But let's keep going. Yeah. So you really just went back and was like, how did you shift and get it right? In the midst of all this moving around? Honestly, it was my track coach. Wow.  So you did track. You did step. Could you wait a minute and stop? Dang. Yeah. I didn't let her stop me. What did you do in track? I did four by one. And open hurdles. Seriously.  That's what I'm trying to say. You know, everybody, that's not the arm. You're not going to come on here. You didn't do anything you want to be up in here. I could run. Listen, man. You're not going to do that up in here.  So you can do the hurdles and everything. Yeah. But you like. I actually did. And how tall are you? Five-six. Wow. Yeah, I could really run. That was like my little escape. So my track coach was the one that was like, she see me as a troubled teenager. And she was like, oh, I'm saving this one for real. Like she kept me like up under her. She gave me my first journal. She taught me how to do all that. Like she always kept up with me. Did she have other kids? No, she didn't have no kids. Do you keep up with her now? So I haven't been able to keep up with her because she bounces around a lot. She's still a track coach still to this day. Like she ran with Marion Jones and everything. She went to OU. Okay. She had a big name. Like she's still doing her coaching and yeah, she's still doing her coaching and everything. But I ran into her not too long ago after a gig at a field city. What did she say? And she was just like. She over there getting some taco. She was getting some taco. I told you. I knew what she was doing.  I already know who you are. Oh, wow. He knew exactly who I was and everything. He's like, she always talks about you. Wow. So you know that's God. You know me. I'm a God man. So I talk about God on every situation when it get good is God. When it was bad, it was the devil. So listen man, that's dope. I like it. She saved me. So as a child. Okay. So when you were in high school. Yeah. What did you want to be? I didn't know. I was one of those people that was confused. I didn't know what I wanted to do, but I was good at a lot of things. So I had like a very artistic background. My mom always sent us to like a art school during the summer. And I was the one that had like my stuff on display at the Fort Worth Art Museum and stuff like that nine years old. Did your mom support you as she was going through all of these different things and she seen you going through? Did she get it right somewhere in the midst of it? I can say that she was always super supportive. Although she didn't always know how to show up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She would do what she could. But what about her mama? How was she? Oh, very kind of. What? Standoffice. Yeah. Very standoffice. Not very affectionate. That's what I'm trying to tell you. He doesn't want to worry. I know it's stemming from something. But that's a conversation we've had recently. Yeah. Like I said, it was like that. And not like exactly like you were going through. Yeah. But he had his issues, but I couldn't blame him after I looked at, you know. Not knowing. Well, yeah. Because his father, the way their relationship was. So you have to have some compassion for the people who go through stuff too. I think a lot of times we get angry. And angry, you know, pretty much it expresses itself in out of control. Yeah. And our parents are everyday people too. Exactly. Just people. That's exactly right. And you know all of these things.  Yeah. Because a lot of us were raised where you, you don't talk to your older parents, your parents, grandparents, anybody older, you don't have those discussions. Yeah. Because you're still a child, no matter how old you get. Yeah. But if you don't bring awareness to certain people, anybody older, younger, they don't know that what they're doing is incorrect. Right. And there's no such thing as too old to change. So that's what I always say. I totally agree. Let me ask you this. Let me ask a couple questions. Yeah.  Do you ever ask about some of the things concerning some of the things you were challenged with when you was growing up? Yes. And that's the reason why I said that. It's from experience. Because like from my personal experience, it was a case. That's why I always say, no matter how much when you're raising kids, no matter how much you are trying to do everything you can, there's always something you're missing. You know what I mean? Because as a parent, we overcompensate for something that we were missing in our childhood. I do agree. And by doing that, you miss on something else. So my mom would always tell me, would always give me hugs and tell me, I love you. But she would never say, I'm proud of you. So that's something I was missing. I felt like, you know, it's three of us. I'm the only girl, but you never said all the things I've done. You never returned to me and say, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of what you did. You accomplished. You know, so as I got older. You know, that was my dad for me. My dad was the affectionate one. He was the affectionate one. Of course. He's a baby girl. But when you think about it, you know, we can find excuses at all times on things that parents didn't do. But you have to bring it up because if you bring it awareness, then they can correct and start to say something. I agree with that. If you get the opportunity to bring it up. But also you got to, like my dad, he wasn't affecting. I told you, he never hugged me until I graduated high school. But at the end of the day, he taught me how to work. He taught me how to be a man. You know what I'm saying? He taught me how to instill that work ethic in me. So if I look at it and scale it in certain things I didn't get, but certain things I got too much of because of the way he was raised. I feel it. So you got, you see it. You see it in both of your parents and what they went through. So I blame them for something. When you get older, you learn to forgive, right? That's crazy. It's like when you get older, you know, it is in a certain age and you got that type of knowledge.  Yeah. Right. Exactly. You know, like my parents come to me. It's so true. They come to me all the time. They're like, so like, I'm helping them figure out things with themselves. They said once a man, twice a child. Yeah. And like helping them unpack some things that like I've already addressed myself. How do I make you feel? I'm just like, wow. Like they really look like in a sense look up to me in a sense. Like my mom is like, you understand this. You understand that. I don't get it. Like help me understand. Beautiful. Like I was telling her like, you got some shadow work to do. You need to work on some things from the past. And she's like, how do I do that? Wow. Like you got to open your heart to refill those feelings. Wow. But for me, it was God. That's the only way. I mean, you have to read and research for me. For me, I don't push what I do on everybody else. But for me, I have to open up the word. I have to, you know, put things in me that pretty much builds integrity and morals. I can't just go by all I'm going to do it. You know, I got to read. I got to figure this thing out. I got to pray. I got to have a relationship with God. I got to pray with my wife. I got to pray with my kids. That's the way I. Enforce the human. That's the way I get it. And go back to what you said. You don't blame them for anything that they do. You still forgive. But it's just that in order for you to correct certain things. Because we all supposed to strive to improve our life. Right. In order for us to know that we do anything incorrect. The way how we say things. Because everybody have communication problems. Nobody has perfect communication. So in order for that to be fixed, somebody has to bring something to your awareness and say, this is how you say things. I perceived it like this, whatever.  Maybe next time I'll try to say it in a different way. I'll say this though. Even when you do that, it's like playing the seed. You don't know when it's going to grow. It's up to God when it happens. So you just can, even if it's your parents, even if it's your friend, it's still the same rules apply. You're just planting a seed. You're telling somebody something that can help them. But don't you go getting mad or discouraged when they don't change when you want them to. Because it's up to God when that change happens. But the problem is a lot of people take on other people's issues as their assignment. There you go. And they feel like that's their assignment to help someone heal. You know what I'm saying? But like you say, you plant the seed and keep moving. Yeah, yeah. And dust your feet if you have to. Yeah. All that apply. All that energy you hold on to. That's right. Yeah, it affects you. And that's dope because now when you do that, everything that God shows me, it's like he's showing you a way not only to help and affect others, but to help yourself as well while you're doing it. Yeah. So all that stuff is going to heal at the same time. At the same time. But people don't understand that though because like I learned how to be vocal now when I say certain things. So a lot of times when I'm telling somebody advice or something, or I'm telling them something, my personal experiences, what I've been through, and I'm looking for that to help them. And I said, the reason why I say all of this, I'm not just saying it for you. I'm saying it for me because the more I say certain things, it reiterated in my mind and keeps me on the straight and narrow. Exactly.  Spread the word. Tell everybody because you don't know who you're helping. Never now. And it's not your job to know that you're helping the person. Yeah. Plant the seed like what you say and don't worry about it. Just leave it to God and know that it will work itself out. For sure. And then a lot of times, also I was just thinking about David for some reason when you was talking. A lot of times God let your lifestyle be an example to others. And you may not tell nobody your testimony. I don't remember him doing them but crying out to God a lot. And he was a man after God's own heart according to what I read. But his lifestyle and the things he done is what made him so courageous. You see what I'm saying? Living in your authenticity. There you go. So when did you figure out you wanted to be in the radio industry? All right, here we go. You two gonna skip over college later, man. I don't want to go there. Oh, no. You don't want to go there, man. Oh, no. This is what we want to talk about. I want nobody to be there. So how did you get into prison? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're going to take my everything.  But lately, when I first started dealing with you, you wouldn't even talk hardly. She says that she has quenched skin. When I'm about to ask her, let me end that with you and throw it over there.  You want me to just check it out? I'll sit back and check it, man. Go ahead. So how did you end up going? What year? Who went? All that because this was a whole movement down there. Man, Prairie View was a home of Prairie View. Yes, it was a whole movement. I got there in 2006. So that's when things was kind of like, oh, what's going on out here? Midday parties are at a wisdom. We give me class, cut class classic. We cut class and we end the yard party. So did you get a scholarship? So I did. I actually got a scholarship due to my academics, being number five in my class. I never really talked about it, but I had the scholarship going there. They offered me a partial track scholarship because I was originally going to go to OU. And at last minute, I was just like... So glad you didn't. I was just like, it just didn't resonate for me. And I chose Prairie View without ever seeing the school. Beautiful. So what was it about Prairie View, that why you chose that? Well, I went to Dunbar. So, you know... All your friends were gone. All my friends from band were going to Prairie View. And then you always hear about it. You always see it. We went to the games at the fair. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, that's where I'm going. Wow. I remember pulling up and I'm like, this is where I'm going. Oh, this is man. Whole love, right? You like, man. You know, Williams chicken on the corner, you know. And it ain't nothing else, but country road and so on. That's all right. That's all right. You kicked it. And my dad was like, all right. This is where you go. Oh, he went with you down there? Yeah, my dad. Me and my dad went together for orientation. I'd never seen the school until orientation. Oh, really? Yeah. And so... I went to orientation. What was your first, like, you know... What was your first thoughts the first month that you was there? What did you feel? Can you remember? I can go all the way back to the first day. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. How was it? I remember we were moving in. I wasn't even sad. I was like, ooh, I am ready. You know... To be honest, I'm going to have some fun. To be honest, I'm going to have some fun. We went to have some fun. It was crazy. Our moving day, there was a whole, like, yard party, like... We went on a Wednesday. While we were moving in, period. What day was it? It was... It was a Saturday. Everybody had moving on a Saturday. Oh, yeah, they jumping. They jumping on a Saturday. And there's a party. There was a party moving in. I was excited. I would have told my child to decide and say, you better not be a pet party. You better get that school work done. She was like, you should have looked. I did feel to be jumping. Yeah, for real.  It was a whole barbecue, everything, like a welcome, fresh room welcome party in the yard. I was like, oh, this is what it's about to be. I knew it was setting the tone. Wow.  Like, I got myself in the school. Like, my parents didn't help me. They didn't want to sign off on fast food. They didn't want to do none of that. Although I had lived at the place, I was like, can y'all just sign off on this? They would not. And all they had to do was sign. They wouldn't do it. They didn't want... I don't want it on my credit. I don't want... Right. But it was a scholarship. But you know, like, when you... We get loans and stuff like that. They didn't want that in their name. So I was like... How'd you do it? I'm gonna figure it out. I applied for all these scholarships. I had so much free money coming in. Wow. Teachers helped you? I never... No, I did it myself. I just did research. I never really had to come out of pocket for anything. That's good. But you see, if they didn't sign... If they had signed, that wouldn't even happen. Right. Everything happens for a reason. Yeah. So I had scholarships from all... Just random scholarships from all different places. They paid for my school. I made it. I took out $10,000 the whole time I was there. And that's nothing. Okay. Is this why you found your love for the music? You see, he keeps... Okay. Yeah. So, PV was... You already loved the music before. Yeah. I always loved music. My daddy is a big, like, big-time vinyl collector. Okay. He's always listened to music, like, blasting. So that hit. You know, he always had his little sports car blasting music. Yeah. That was, like, always our thing. And then I played instruments in middle school. Of course. I lived until high school. Okay. But then PV, it was just, like, a breeding ground for music. I met so many people that were like... But, like, who? Yeah, name them. Well, I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Look, I would be with Cash, Darrell, and all of them. Yeah, name all of them. I would be going... The primetime click. The primetime click. I would be in the... What kind of car was it? Those guys was kind of rowdy. It was an expedition, something. We would be in the expedition. I remember one time we went to Texas A&M, Darrell performed and everything. And I'm just there, like, had no clue what I was actually like. Doing there. But I was, like, with the crew. Like, you know... Wow. So you really... You're one of the guys. Wait a minute. Do you got primetime click? Yeah, TJ had it on his backpack.  TJ had it on his bag?   I'm like, damn! You did it!  No! But I was, like, always cool with, like, all the DJs, all the upcoming artists. I was just one of those... Can you dance?  No. No. But I was, like, always cool with, like, all the DJs, all the upcoming artists. I was just one of those... Can you dance? So were you, like, a dancer or something? No. She's just cool. I felt like I was always, like, one of those people that could put the pieces together. You know what I'm saying? Connect people. That's what I felt like I always was. I was a promoter at a very young age. I had a fake ID when I was 15 years old. That's good stuff. I used to be a promoter at Therapy Lounge in Deep Ellen back in the day. I think that was a thing back in the day. I think almost everybody had a fake ID. You could get them right down there by the police station down there by the loose stairs.  You could get on that brooding. Yeah, all them places. I was getting my own... I was every minute 16, but I was 27. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kick it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could get you that fake ID.  And I was promoting and, you know, selling tables and doing all that. So I was always one of those people that... You was one of the people that bone with somebody on here. You know what? No, bones. I'm done. I had a prime time click. He don't know how they was doing what they was doing. But he seemed like there was everywhere he wanted to be. Yeah. He was like, that must be me. I even had friends that like play instruments. They were just creative beings like behind the scenes. I was like automatically drawn to these people. So it wasn't like nothing that was really forced. Like I had a friend that like literally would write music and play guitar. And she could play keyboard. But she didn't do anything with it. But it was like I was always attracted to like the creatives. You know what I'm saying? So it kind of just molded like I say my tribe. And it really gave me the confidence to do what I'm doing now today. Just being around them, seeing people do different things. It taught me how to go after, like go get it. So what do you do actually? Let me ask you. I do a lot of things. So I started out as a model and actress. So I did that for many, many years. Really? I was signed to Kim Dawson's agency. Really? At 18 months. That's a good agency. Yeah. I started in entertainment at such a young age. So it was just in me. Like I couldn't get away from it. Because that's the thing I was wondering. Because when you were jumping from house to house. Yeah. You didn't have a part-time job or doing anything like that. Yeah. I always worked. I always had a job. You know how to get to it. Yeah. I always had a job. My first job was. That's what make you dope because. At the Allington ballpark. Oh, that was your first job? I used to make the baseball bats. That's networking right there. Oh, I met so many people there. Like still to this day I can walk in restaurants. I'm like, y'all like they own that stuff now. Like the people that was working there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.  But I did that. Worked at finish line. Worked at YMCA. The story's so dope. I just like the way. I braid a hair. 15 years old. Get into it. Oh, I did all kinds of stuff. I love it. I think everybody in college, if you're black. Everybody braided hair at some point. Oh, in college? I had three jobs then. I know. Like I had a full schedule. I still had three jobs. I was right there. And part of that same time. Okay, I knew it all. You really part of the reason why the Primetime click you made it. There you go. Let's go and get it. Who would just jump all the way out there? Yeah. Yeah, I'm so glad. We're just jumping all the way out there. I'm so glad. Promotion and all that. I see what's going on now. You came over here. You didn't tell me everything. No, but what I'm glad about is the fact that when y'all always talked about a Primetime click, it was always all these males. You never used to hear about any females. You never heard about me. Yeah. I was like, it was so funny. I ran for, what was it? Homecoming Queen or something like that at Prairie View. I actually recorded.  Right? So I was like, y'all, I'm gonna get in the booth. I'm about to rap a little bit. Who wrote that rap? Some, I think it was Mike. I think it was Mike. And then our friend Jorge George. Yeah, we all linked up.  And I made a song called, Vote for Tejas September 18th. Hey! And the whole campus saying this. Every time they see me. And yeah, so I was always, you know, with the crew just kicking it. I was always kind of like in the shadows. I never really was like that person like at the forefront. I just kind of kicked it in the shield. I was cool with everybody. How many of the females were around? I don't think there was anybody around. Probably randoms. Okay, yeah. I'm gonna say it'll probably be like random people. But like when it came to like having like real friends, like those were the homies. Wow. You know what I'm saying? I love it, man. So I was cool with a lot of people though.  Yeah, I'm a part of K-104. So how long have you been there? I've been there for three years now. Three years now. So two years into me actually teaching myself how to DJ. Wow. I got signed to radio. Really? Mm-hmm. I got discovered. You taught yourself how to DJ? Yeah, I taught myself. So where did you play during that time? No, somebody had played part in that. Nobody. Nobody taught me how to DJ. So what were you serious? No, serious. What was the biggest gig you got during that time? Stop, stop, stop. So I had a friend's house. She was like a DJ a couple years back. Okay. And I used to go to her house to use her equipment just to teach myself in between my jobs. Okay. And she would just tell me like, oh, that sounds good. Or this and that. But nobody physically taught me how to DJ. Really? I like that. So you self-taught. Self-taught. What was the biggest gig you got during that time when you was DJing? What? Like at the beginning? At the beginning phases. Oh, I DJ with Manny Fresh. What? For, um, yeah. And that was before the radio? For Fact Tuesday. No, it was, I got. I'm talking within that two years you said you did before you got signed to radio. Oh, before I got signed to radio. Okay. That was my first big gig though. Like with radios with Manny Fresh. Manny Fresh. We did Fact Tuesdays. House of Blues. I'm gonna ask him one day. Yeah, it was dope. It was dope. I promise you I'm gonna ask. I got pictures and videos. I ain't tripping. I'm gonna ask him. Okay. I'm gonna find him then. Okay. Yeah, KLC was on here already. I'm close. I'm close. I'm done. KLC was already on here. Beats by the pound.  Yeah, I rock with these phones. I'm gonna find that nigga. It's coming. It's coming. I'm gonna ask that nigga with you. You funny. So I know it's real. Like I need to know from him. I wanna get it from the horse's mouth. House of Blues. Fact Tuesday. I'm not gonna forget. You don't have to worry about that. All right now. So I'm trying to figure out how did you get signed to that. That's why I'm asking about the Big Gigs. I wouldn't necessarily say that I had like big gigs, but I'm also very hard on myself. So asking me that is just like, was it really that big? There you go. I did different events with like Victoria's Secret, you know, stuff like that. Makeup Forever. I did gigs at North Park and stuff like that. But I actually had got really, I wouldn't say I got cool because I was always cool with a lot of everybody in Dallas, although I'm not from Dallas. I was cool with everybody, you know. And from being a promoter once, I just reached out to the promoter homies and I was like, yo, I'm DJing now. Everybody's like, girl, get out of here. Like, attention. No, you not. Wouldn't even pay attention to me. But it was one group co-op. They actually, I sent them over like a little mix that I did and they listened to it while they was just, you know, chilling. They was like, it's you. Like you did this. And I was like, yeah, I've been, I told you I've been DJing. They was like, shoot, when you ready to DJ then? I'm like, I don't know. I ain't ready yet. But I really was. I was just, I was so afraid. I was so nervous. I was so nervous. So I waited a whole year while I was teaching myself and they actually gave me my first opportunity to take on a residency. So from there, I just, I just grew from there. I was all over the place. I was in all of the nightclubs, all of the bars, like all of the major parties and stuff like that. But they gave me my opportunity. That's how the radio saw you. That's how the radio saw me. That's what I was trying to figure out. Like, how did, how did that opportunity open up? You know, the spot over there off of Ross called the ranch. It's called XOXO now. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. That's where I was discovered. Wow. That's dope. And who discovered you? DJ Steve Nice. That's what's up. So on a random, I think it was like a Wednesday or something like that. Nobody was in there. So you was working? I was working. That's what matters. And he was like. How did you feel when he came to you with that opportunity? Me? Like, am I ready for this? No, no, no, no.  Yeah, I know you did. I'm new. Like, I feel like I was something. You should have just been like, I'm from the prime time clique. Oh, you know what? I'm done. I'm gonna take this thing over you. I'm done. I'm the first lady of the prime time clique. I'm not the first lady. The first lady. I am. Now we can get it started over there. Done. I'm done with y'all. Not the first lady. So you, Bill Bellamy's cousin? Yeah. That's my cousin. Wow.  I actually do talk to him. Like, whenever he comes in the house. Let that nigga know. He lets me know. Let him know. Like. Boss talk is a thing. You know what I'm talking about? Just let him know. Boss talk is a thing. Yeah. That would be kind of dope. No, I'm working with a lot of people.  Okay, tell him. Get in while it's hot. Okay. So what you think about? What you think about opportunity? I love it. I like that it's real. It's genuine. It's authentic. It's just having conversation. It doesn't feel forced. It doesn't feel like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I've been on plenty of podcasts, but it feels like it's so like, it's so to the point.  You know what I'm saying? I'm a talker. So like, I can talk. I don't want to be put in the box where it's like, this question. But you miss so much good because one thing I've realized by doing it the way how we do it. Yeah. We hear some stories that have never been told. I know you'd be like, what? And then the funny thing is that some people will call us back afterwards and say, I don't know how y'all got that out of me. Oh, don't put that part in there. For real? For real? Yeah, don't put that part in there. I'm real with you and I'm true to it. Like, for real. Like, I am who I am. Yeah, I've heard, I've had some people but kind of like, this is about to happen big for me and I don't want to put that out yet. Don't put it out yet. I don't understand that. Because sometimes you can pull. You can pull somebody out or somebody. And they don't know in that moment. When we do it, it's not like we know what we're pulling out. It just comes out. And I think that God gives us the spirit of, I want to make people feel comfortable, welcome to feel like they're a part of the family. Well, you really is welcome. And if you're not, we have had somebody that was kind of in, you know, tightened up and I didn't put the video out but it was, they was depressed and I knew it and I didn't want to pull it out. But at some point I'm going to drop it. You should. But because. That's somebody in real time. I think, I think it would do him, he probably was what you know that. I don't know. You never know. But it just seemed like he was going through a lot. Remember that? You know exactly what I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about, but you know by putting it out too, it might make certain people reach out to him to, you know. Yeah. Help. Shout out to Young Jock. You know what? I'm done. He's going down. Yeah. No, I'm tripping. I'm done. I'm done. You know, yeah, yeah. It was some things that went on. But it's not him. He was involved in though. He was involved in. Shout out to Young Jock. Hollad me. I'm at Boss Talk 101. We will be back down in three months. We just went to Atlanta. We just started traveling. I lived there for a while. Really? Yeah, we kicked it down. Her brother lives there, so I said. How do you like it? I do like it. I actually miss it a lot. What? You're in Dallas. You need to calm down. No, I do. I miss it a lot because it taught me so much about entrepreneurship. How long did you live there for? I stayed there for two and a half years. When made you come back? What made you go there in the first place? What made me go there was chasing a dream. Okay. I wanted to take a leap of faith. And I felt like, yo, I've been here for so long. Like if I need to come back, I can come back. So I left and I had a vision. How old were you? This is after college. Yeah, this is after college. I was 25 when I went to Atlanta. This was before the DJ. This was before DJing. That's why God had something he wanted to do with you. Yeah, this was way before. Yeah, yeah. DJing wasn't even a thought. I had went out there. I was like, I'ma just move. Like I'ma just take a leap of faith. I knew I wanted to get into acting. I knew that I wanted to be on the gang. Like I knew everything that I wanted to do. I wrote it down. A month after living there, I got signed with BET. And I was on the gang. I worked on there all the way until they closed it out. I worked with Brandy. Did Bill help you get that job? No. My cousin helped me get no jobs. What? He was like, I want to see you do it for yourself. He's taught me that before. Wow, I like it. And I was like, on some respect. Like, I'm cool with it. You should be proud of me. He's like, build yourself up. That's why a lot of people don't even know my last name. I don't use my last name on purpose. Your last name, Bellamy? My last name is Bellamy. Oh, damn. So this is your daddy's brother? Well, he is a third cousin. Okay. With our family that's like on the East Coast. They've talked about it before. I don't know the exact, you know, major thing. Yeah, but you know, it's okay. We'll get him when we get him right now. We wrote it. Yeah, my last name is Bellamy. You have done a great job with your career.  And, yeah, you from the prime time clip before that. Yeah, that's what we want you to always say. I am so done. Yeah. Yeah, that's the part I want everybody to give. I am done. Yeah, Bellamy's stand up. She's from the prime time clip. Oh my God. But how did it feel when you got that position with BT? I was just like, whoa, like, that's a big deal. Yeah, I dreamed of it. Did you know what's the woman name? Who? The one that I always talk about in reality TV. What's her name? The one that, what's her name? Mona Scott? Mona Scott. Yeah. Yeah. You knew her? I never met Mona. Okay, I forgot. I just met her. I heard her name a lot. You probably know Salima Kill. Yeah. Mara Brocka Kill. Okay. They did Girlfriends and all of that. Yeah, yeah. I know them like first thing. That's what's up, man. So I worked with them. They were the producers of the game. But you look like you could do that stuff. Thank you. I loved it. Yeah, I could tell. Yeah, yeah. There were so much opportunities like that there. So why move back here and not just jump to another show? Man, please. Yeah, so it was crazy. I went through a pretty bad breakup.  And a lot of life changes. And so I was like, you know what? Let me go back. How long were y'all together for? Two years. So I was there for two and a half years. Yeah, two years. He missed out on something special. And you just wanted to get away with it. I never missed out on something better. That nigga kind of Dallas D knows it. You know he knows it. Oh, God. I missed up. Oh, God. But yeah.  I came back home. And I was actually homeless. A lot of people didn't know that. What? I was homeless. I came back homeless. What did you say? You have time to click this back up. Hold on, but hold on. Wait a minute. You're the type of person that you have people you could stay with. You have people that you can... Okay, I feel it. But you just... Right. I don't want to deal with nobody. I don't want to... Right. I can feel that from you. Yeah, I am like that. Like let me just get it because I don't want to owe nobody. Well, let me answer this. Homeless woman. Where did you... I ain't homeless no more. Where did you stay when you was homeless? I actually stayed in my car for a while. That's dope. We used to for a while. Two days. A couple weeks. Two weeks. It was a good like three, four weeks. All the greats staying in the car. Yeah. You in a good place. Look, look, I used to find like safe places I could park. Yeah, yeah. All the greats. All the greats staying in safe places. I would park in apartment parking lot. Yeah, you didn't watch Mr. D. You didn't watch Mr. D. You didn't watch Mr. D. You didn't watch Mr. D. You didn't watch Mr. D. You didn't watch Mr. D. You didn't watch Mr. D. You didn't watch Mr. D. Like... You remember that? I remember. Yeah, it gets real. You have somebody come and knock him, but like, hey! Yeah, they do it. Homeless civilians are there. I slept in my car for a while. I stayed with friends. I was couch surfing. You know? I was staying in hotels. I like you man. Did you get a... What was the job that you got? So, what's crazy was when I got back, I was like, yo, cause I did like a lot of assistant styling when I was in Atlanta. So I was like, when I come here, I'm gonna just style. I'm like, I'm here, I'ma just style. So I did a Southern Dallas magazine. And that was my first gig when I got back. So I was like, I'm a stylist. You know what I'm saying? I just came out and asked that. So I started doing that and I was styling people. A lot of people didn't know about that. And then I just started getting random jobs. I was a manager at UPS. I was a manager at a hair store. Which one? The one I was saying to you? The one and four words. Oh yeah, cause I was talking about the one and four. So you were standing, went back and forward. No, I was actually standing in Arlington at the time. So I had a job in Fort Worth and I had two jobs in Dallas. That's what's up. So I would go back and forth, back and forth. UPS would be at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? So I had the two jobs in Dallas. You don't have no kids. No, no kids. Yeah, but what kind of car was that you were sleeping in? Ooh, what car did I have? Oh, I had a white Honda. Yeah, yeah. I sure did. You could let the seat all the way back. All the way back. So I'm telling my name. No automatic seat. You know, let it down yourself. So where did you go and take a shower? At the gas station. Friends house, like friends house and stuff like that. Like a lot of times, like I say, I was couchsurfing. I was going to different people's house. No, but I'm talking when you were living in your car for those two weeks. Oh yeah. Where did you go? The gym. The gym. Gas station. Yeah. I had a gym membership. I would go to the gym. Okay. It's hard when you're homeless. I know you can't understand. Well, because when I think about somebody homeless, I'm thinking about you can't even afford a gym membership. No, no, no. She got a car. Yeah, you know, like. There's levels of homeliness. There is some level to this, you know? You see people in LA, they be living in tents and going to town for 24 people. We're a double apartment, got a two bedroom gym. Right. Yeah, it go down. You know they can only afford. You know they can only afford. What they got? Yeah. Yeah, it's all good. You know, when it comes to housing, they ain't got it. Can't get up there. I mean, I wasn't homeless for very long. It was about two months. Two months. Yeah, but then I got right back to it. Yeah. Because I left on abrupt. You know, I just left. Yeah, we ain't talking about me, but I went through a spell too. Yeah. But I was robbing. Yeah. You was robbing. Yeah, I was robbing. Young. You know what I'm saying? But I wasn't feeling to be, I was homeless, but I couldn't tell, cause I was too busy bringing in houses and stuff. And just doing. Right. I'm done. I was in everybody else house. I didn't feel homeless. He's like, you know, we gon' be all right. We gon' be all right. No, you do go through things when you young. And that's the part about growing up, right? That's so dope, right? Cause you can look back on the things that you went through. Somebody else that's homeless that move from house to house may see this video. And they be like, are this podcasting or here at on Apple podcasting. And next thing you know, they find a way out of this situation because of you. Yeah. I'm being real. That's what it's about. I'm not ashamed of where I came from. No, I love it. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't wanna share their story because they haven't really dealt with themselves. They haven't really faced themselves. They haven't looked at themselves in the mirror.  And a lot of people run from themselves. That's true. I would say your story is a testimony for somebody else to help somebody else. It's not for yourself. Yeah, for real. It's for somebody else. But I love the fact that you've been, cause when I think about BET working over there and all, are you up here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they ain't down here. And a lot of people who come all the way down be like, trying to hide, don't want nobody to know that this is where they ended up. Yeah, I didn't hide nothing. But your story is dope. You could be a co-host at Boss Talk 101. Okay, just in my bag. Yeah, yeah, every time. Cause that backstory is what makes the thing work. And that's what people don't realize. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah. If I start telling you mine, you might not come back. Sure. Yeah, I'm one of them type dudes. I'm doing.  Ooh, Kanye West. I wish I could meet that nigga, but I ain't stopped, man. I met Kanye West in Atlanta. Oh, how did it go? Tell me about it. It was dope. Look how people say, we ended up chopping it up in the back cause we were back there for some reason, but I'm really cool with a lot of people from rock nation and stuff like that to work with rock nation. So when I started talking about Jay-Z, you failed sometimes. No, no, no. You didn't do nothing about it because we were in the south. No, no, no, no. So we were back there in the back and Kanye, he was just chilling and doing something. I can't remember, but I went up to him and I was like, yo, can I just take it? He's like, come on, take a picture with me. Everybody's like, how was he so? Cool with you. And he smiled in the picture and everything. I was like, he don't be smiling. No, God gave you face. And there was, yeah, it was one of them things. It was just like a, it was a moment that was just so cool. And we all went back there and drank Duce and did all the things. So that was like, yeah, that was one of the highlight moments. Yeah, highlight moments. Of course, working with Brandy was like so good. You working with Brandy? On the game. Yeah. Yeah, you met, you met Ray Jay, did you? I didn't meet Ray, look, Ray Jay never got out of it. I love Ray Jay. You know, Brandy, I just gave the right person. I love Ray Jay. But no, Brandy was an amazing person. She seemed real cool. She was an amazing person to work with. She used to always pull me inside and she'd be like, you don't belong behind the camera. Really?  She's like, I don't know what you gonna do?  She's always telling me that, yeah. She's like, you don't belong behind the scene.  So she easy to work with. Very easy to work with. So cool. That's why she always getting gigs. No, seriously, that's why she stays booked. Exactly. Amazing soul, yeah, amazing soul, like for real. So, yeah, them to do that. But there's something that sticks with me too. Her telling me that. But that's why it's very pivotal for us to touch other people's life, even it's just a sentence you say to somebody, something positive. It stays with them forever, you just don't know cause she doesn't know until she listen to Boss Talk 101 to know. Brandy, we gonna send this up to you. See what I mean? I'll let my boy for me, but Ray J, you know, we just, we gonna fan out right quick. I'm good. So, top three artists of all time. No, I wanna ask for a hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. They don't have top three artists of all time. Annie Johnnera. Annie Johnnera. Annie Johnnera. Top three artists, not everybody's been on the show and done it, so let's go. Male or female, anybody. Ooh. I ain't can put Bob Marley in it, that's cool. What? You know what? You better not put it. I love me some Bob. I do love me some Bob. Okay, so top artists, let's go. Damn. That's so hard. Number one. I'm gonna go with Prince. Okay. 27th Instrument playing Prince. Let's go. Turn up. Number two. Prince. I said, I coulda picked that.  I love Prince. You look like one.  I used to lie to everybody like, Prince is my daddy, y'all. You know what you and that new comment from Prince. You love Prince all of my friends?   Prince ain't your daddy. Okay, number two. Number two, I definitely gotta go Kanye West. I'm a Kanye West fan. That's dope. I'm a Kanye West fan. Me too. Me too. Me too. Especially after meeting him, right? No, I'm Kanye West. Or even before they like. All layers, all layers of Kanye is I'm down with.  I'll be listening to Spaceships over and over and over and over. They're like, Tasha, turn this off. I'm tired of listening to it, so definitely Kanye West for sure. Kanye West, number two. Ooh, number three. You know, everybody normally goes with Beyonce, but I have a very favorite artist of all time, Amy Winehouse. I like her. I like her. She like her. I like her. I love her. Her best friend named Julia Ashby. So she actually has like a reggae sound. You need to look her up. Her name is Julia Ashby. And she actually recorded in a lot of the studios that Bob Marley recorded. How much music you got in that head of yours? Ooh, it's too much. It's a lot. It's a lot. I listen to all types of things. I know, I can believe that. My favorite. Me too. Which one you like, girl? Did you listen to him when he was with that first group? What first group? Switch, wasn't it Switch? No, my daddy has those records though. I need to go here and steal some of those. I call your name, girl.  I know that. I know that. That's how I play it, man. Yeah, it's Switch. I didn't know that. She don't know. I thought you were on this.   Keep it on. I know songs I don't always know who's singing it. But I know songs. I'm the same way. I play Switch a lot. And she don't even like the song because I play it so much. For real? But let me tell you about him. I don't know. But let me tell you about him. Like, okay, if you play a song, it takes me a minute to figure out what the song is. You can play the song for two seconds. He already know what it means. Yeah, I know. You play one beat. I mean, just a beat. You don't hear the words. I ain't got to hear. I'm like, hold on. Let the song start and then I can tell you what it is. Okay, now this is doing it the other night. Look, this is DJ Ear. Just knowing. I just love music. Like, it's been that way for me. Like, I ride before rap started, when it ended. It ain't ended yet, but there's a lot of garbage out here that these niggas doing, but there's some good stuff. I do agree. But I said, when it ended, hip hop is not dead. Let's stop playing. Hip hop is not dead. It ain't going nowhere. It ain't going nowhere. Because it's not trying to be funny, but these white folks trying to steal it from us. Not only are they trying to steal. They are stealing it. They are stealing the culture and everything. They're not going to be able to do that. You can't emulate us. I could say something, but I'm going to let Eminem make it tonight. I love that. I'm not trying to tell you that. Because these niggas would say that. Look, after I done said, Amy Winehouse. They're giving me a torch. Like, Eminem is the best rapper ever.  Okay, yeah. Maybe he's doing that though. A lot of people do that. And it's a lot of people. The people, you'd be amazed at the music and the people that they've met and they still say that. And I'd be like, how could they say that? That's just so difficult to like narrow down to the bestest and the bestest. Because everybody's so special in their own uniqueness. But it's your personality. It's your preference. Everybody has a different air. Eminem can rap. I ain't taking that away from him. But he's just, when I think of people like even Lil Wayne or anybody. Oh no, Wayne is one of my favorites. Yeah, you can't compare it to him. But he wasn't in top three. He wasn't in my top three. Or, of course, PymC is my favorite ever. Yeah. I don't even play like that. Really? I don't even play about that. That's like almost his number one. I don't even play about that. Don't play with me about that. Let's just move on. Okay, I love it. Because this is not nothing to play with. You do not want to go down that road. I like UDK too. I gotta have it. Okay, so my next question to you is being in the industry that you're in, as I said, you meet a lot of people. In the radio industry as well, you hear a lot of stories. What is a person you've met that was like so heart touching when you heard their story? Oh, heart touching when I heard their story. Maybe you haven't gotten it yet. Yeah, maybe I haven't gotten it yet. Yeah, I got enough questions. Because that should come in the top of your head. Yeah. You know, something that's just like, because you meet so many people. You do meet. Yeah, you do. I mean a lot of things when I'm trying to think.  I definitely would. Yeah, but. I think a lot of times I'm more so the person with the story that. Your story's dope. That's why I'm glad. I didn't know all this. You know what I'm saying? Like putting it out there for people and people always come back to me and they're just like, yo, like. I didn't know.  And it's so funny because people look at looks. Yeah. And writing that. Yeah, y'all looking good up in here right now. You know what I'm saying? Don't even know what you mean. I'm loving this vibe. I'm not even sure what you're doing. Y'all doing y'all thing right now. Looks have nothing to do with what you don't have or anything like that. But some people feel like if you have looks, you should have an upper hand. Just like some people think that people are saying, if you're white, you have that privilege over somebody who's black. That's true. The same thing as if you're pretty, oh, you should never have to do it out. You should never have to, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. I couldn't see you look cute. You yourself just running around homeless. Man, look, I didn't act like it. You ain't about to see me homeless. Yeah, you don't know. You ain't about to know nothing. I'm about to keep it together. Oh, I love it, man. So how hard is it for a woman, a beautiful woman like yourself to be in these industries and dealing with these people and the difficulties of how- And to keep it professional. Sometimes opportunities are missed, maybe, behind certain situations. I mean, I'm going in right now. I'm just all in because it's happening. Yeah, you are about to say, I know it. It's in there, boy. I can answer this from like my earlier years and I can answer it now. Go ahead, go ahead and answer both, yeah. Okay, so earlier years, yes, it was tough. It was tough.  But give me my money. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like learning how to work with so many different types of people and personalities and all these things, it took a lot of patience. So I had to say, even with DJing, DJing has taught me so much patience, like just how to deal with people. But one thing that helped me, like in my younger years, was going back to like thinking in my corporate mind, you know what I'm saying? Like the problem solving part. You know, like going back to that is what helped me get through a lot of those moments. And it was really, really hard because it's like people trying to flirt with you or come at you or hey, can you do that? Like they want favors from you because they feel like you need them in order to work and stuff like that. So I can say, yes, it was much difficult starting out because it's like you almost have to prove yourself. You have to come with something. They gotta see that you really are about what you're talking about or what people are praising you to be. So now that I'm in this space, years later, I've gained that respect just by always showing up as 100% myself, one. Two, people know I really do not play. Like don't play with my money. One, I'm one of those people that when I show up, I always do a little extra. I always do a little bit more.   And it was just learning how to put my foot down without having to be aggressive. You know what I mean? Like just, and it just, it comes with, how can I put this? After you show people who you are, your clientele is based off of like what you put out, like the energy that you put out. So I don't really have to put up with too much craziness or anything like that. Now, do people try to talk to me? I mean, I feel like that's gonna be something that happens all the time, you know? I wish more women was like that. Cause they don't, that's the part where they still trying to figure it out. A lot of women back down, like they feel like, they don't really know their worth. You know what I'm saying? Like they don't know it. So they back down or feel like they have to take less money and stuff like that. I've never been that person. I've never been the DJ to undercut a DJ. Or do anything like that. Like I came in, I knew my worth. And I was like, yo, this is this. But I also have a tribe of people around me that keep me in check. Yeah. Like know your worth, Tasia. No, you need to be charging this. You need to be doing that. So when you have the right people around you, it's not hard to maneuver and navigate through the entertainment business. You know what I'm saying? I built those relationships over the past probably like 12 years. So if you could go back to that 15-year-old girl who had to move out and had to go on her own and had to go through everything that you had to go through, what would you say to her? To help her to prepare for what she was about to face. Yeah, so many things.  Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. I remember so many times I would just be afraid to even speak out, speak up. Or show up as my true self. I knew I was different. I knew I wasn't like everybody else. But a lot of times my exterior, I had to put on a whole different, you know. Trying to fit in here, trying to make people accept. In a sense, like make people accept who I was. I've always been. But as a young girl, a lot of people don't really know who they are. That's true. They're searching for themselves because even like you said, you didn't know what you wanted to be and all of that. It's when you got older and really left college that you really, everything started coming to you like that. What's crazy is though, it's like even with what I'm doing now, I feel like I still always had the idea of what industry I would be in. I just didn't know what I was going to do. You know, like I always said, well, I'm a design close. I'm gonna have a music group. Or I'm gonna do this.  I'm gonna do, I always knew I wanted to be in entertainment. I just didn't know what it was I was supposed to do. I remember in college, I used to always wanna be in like the pageants and stuff like that. But I never had a talent. I'm like, what would I do? Like what would I show up and do? I'm not about to do a poem. I'm not about to get up here and dance or you know, nothing like that. I was like, what is Tasia? And I remember asking myself that then cause I could get up there and answer all the questions all day and probably blow you out the water. But I had no, I didn't have a talent that I could showcase. So that was something I was always in search of. Wow. So what time do you go on when you DJ on the radio? So I'm on there on weekends for the weekend block party on K-104. Friday I'm on 12 to two. Saturday I'm on, hold on. Fridays I'm on 10 to 12. Saturdays I'm on 12 to two. And then Sundays I'm on six PM and then 12 to two again. How can people get a hold of you? You can contact me on IG. That's Tasia Alexa. A lot of people say it wrong. Tasia Alexa. It's Tasia Alexa. Tasia Alexa. It's T-A-Z-I-A-A-L-E-X-A. I don't know, when I first heard Tasia, I'm looking up T-A-Y.   Hey, Tasia, we love you. We thank you for coming on Boss Talk 101, man. It's going down, man. Anytime. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.


Hi everyone, Joe for Jaspy's casebreaks.com coming at you with a quick little one-box break of Bowman Draft Baseball sapphire edition With a shot at getting a transcendent spot ladies and gentlemen, which is pretty awesome But let's do the break first. We sold 20 spots and every spot gets you 10 players so first of all we're gonna for the purposes of the Transcendent spot will be a different dice roll at the end of the break and we'll randomize the original 20 names For the break itself obviously let's multiply this by 10. There's one already two three four five six seven eight nine and Ten and there's 200 players on this list right here. Let's roll it. Let's randomize it three and a four seven times for each list one two three four five six and Seven and final time after seven times. We've got Matthew down to Diane s all right seven times for the players and Seven and final time After seven we've got Brewera Hicklin All the way down to Bryce Turan All right, so I'm not gonna read off all these names, but I'll go through the list slowly and Then so you can keep track of your names just as is and then I'll alphabetize by your by your first names And then we'll have the break. I don't think there's gonna be any trades All right, man, I'm almost there If you're watching the replay of this you can just fast-forward pass this to the break or to the transcendent spot randomizer Which I'm assuming that's what everyone really wants to see anyway All right, and once again there there are the names right there Adam Brian Chris Chris s Christina Craig Diane Josh Kevin Matthew Mike Quinton Robert Zach all right, let me know if there's any trades or if you need to see your names again All right, no trades. No one else needs to see their players All right, TWC trade window closed and all cards ship in this and everything will be sleeved and top-loaded too just because of the The immense value and even these so-called base cards for sapphire. This is where the big value is right here Kyle McCann 34 out of 50 and That'll go to where does Kyle McCann go That goes to Christina Carson with the Kyle McCann and the Ryan Nelson will also go to Christina. That's a blue Parallel which is numbered nine out of 99 nice all right plenty more so These are all pretty great Travis Waggerty for the Pirates Victor Victor Mesa a Lot of big prospect names if you're into baseball You'll probably know a lot of these names and their potential There you go. All cards will be shipped now. Let's see who wins that transcendent spot giving away one in this one Let's go back to the original list again Let's roll it. Let's randomize it three times name on top after three and three Congrats to Brian Allen. There you go, Brian. Congrats to you. Thanks everyone for giving it a shot There's more opportunities to to try to win more spots and you can try to buy spots straight up too if you're feeling spicy Congrats again to Brian. I'm Joe. I'll see you next time. Bye. Bye


OK, so let's recap a little bit what we learned so far and what the purpose of it is. So what we've been talking about recently is we know if we know the energies that a system can have, the molecules in a system or the energies of the particles or whatever the states of a system are. If we know the energies of the states of a system, we can use those energies to calculate the probabilities with equations like the Boltzmann probability distribution. Probability is e to the minus energy over kt. And recall that in order to do this, we need to know q. If we want to know the actual probabilities, we need to know not just one energy. We need to know all the energies, and that will give us all of the probabilities. So the brackets mean, if I know the set of all the energies, I can calculate the complete set of all these probabilities. Boltzmann's probability distribution helps us do that. If you think back a little further, the reason we're interested in the probabilities is because those can tell us something about the larger state of the system. So for example, the entropy of the system or the energy of the system, we have seen equations like entropy. The intensive entropy is minus k sum of the probability log probabilities. And we've also seen that the average energy, the intensive energy in the system can be calculated from the probabilities and from the energies by summing up probability times average energy. So we have equations that, once we have the probabilities, will tell us what is the entropy of the system, what is the energy of the system. This collection of techniques equations is essentially what we refer to when we talk about statistical mechanics. And the whole goal of statistical mechanics is to be able to stop talking about individual microscopic properties of the system, the individual energies, and which particles have which energies, the microstate of the system, and instead be able to talk about collective properties of the system, the entropy of the system as a whole, the energy of the system as a whole. Those are things that help us describe macro states of the system. So statistical mechanics help us move from microstates over to macro states. Those macro states, things like the entropy and the energy, those themselves are useful for calculating other properties. Once we know something about energy and entropy, we can calculate things like enthalpies or free energies or pressures, other thermodynamic properties. So those are terms that are familiar from earlier chemistry courses, but we'll learn a lot more about how to calculate those from the entropy and the energy. This calculation, the relationship between all these different thermodynamic variables, that's what we're talking about when we're talking about thermodynamics. So once statistical mechanics has helped us turn microstates and individual molecule energies into macro states or descriptions of the system as a whole, the relationships between those properties tell us how to predict other properties of the system using thermodynamics. On the other side, however, before we can do all that, we need to know what the energies are. And it's possible to not just measure, but to predict or to calculate what those energies are. And that's the next thing we'll focus on. This part of the process, being able to predict what the energy of a molecule or a system is, that's the domain of quantum mechanics, where we'll use different starting points, different equations that we haven't discussed yet for how to calculate the energy of the system. And we'll use those as input to being able to predict entropies, energies, and other thermodynamic properties. So this is sort of a roadmap of where we're going. But on this roadmap, we're going to start at the beginning. And the next thing we'll do is start talking about quantum mechanics and how to use that to predict energies of molecules.


अजकल चटनी किषाद रोटी काने परते हैं इतने महगाई होगे हैं जहां देर बज़ो के लिए श्पेसल खाना वनता था वहां एक जग रोटी सब जी में ही सुबमें बना दिया जाता है की फीजी में काम चल जाएगा दो बार चाइपी ते एक बार्टी हो आप दीजल मेंगा होगा तो इसका प्रवाग किसाना पर पर पड़ता हैं नो तन is a resident of sangham vihar a sprawling locality in south delhi inhabited largely by the cities poor शी अंज six to eight rupees per day as a home based worker the rise in fuel prices has affected her daily course adversely आप से बले तो गेशी के परही है फिर में लक्डी बर बनाती हुए रोटी तो गेशी के पहरे सानी है फिर में लक्डी बर बना दीविग बना दीविग हमें equation उसी के बज़े से दिखच से अंख से दिखाई ने देरे चस्मलगा ग़ाँ के बनारे हैं नहीं सरकार ने गेस पे तेल पे गरीबों के लिए दाम ब़़ाया है वो बहुत गलत किया है किंकि गरीब जन्टा क्या है, जिद दिन बल खमाती है शाम्खो कंष्से कम रोती बनाके कान ने कहने के लिए मित्ती का तेल तो सब च्यां न तरीका था गज्स ने ہیں थो तेल ले आोगफाईद के अप तेल पवी दाम ब़ग़ा जम, न प्यक मेए प्यसा ब़गया अपन् रे खणा में, को तो तो टी करेंगे खाना तो बनागे खाने हैं बगर खाय तो जी नी सकते हैं प्योल प्राइसे से अगए अगएन लास्ट मुन्त दीजल दीजल बाई रुपीस थी पर लीटर केरोसीन बाई रुपीस 2 पर लीटर और लपीजी बाई रुपीस 50 पर सलन्दर अभी रीटर बनागे तजी कि लें बेजा सद तो टीए गर्ग तब दीजल दीजल देखता और वाउल्ग नहीं कि लिए घरान्डीन ताक्स तो थी रीटर खो तो तो वहग दीजल मिक सकते है या लक्री आजकल महंगा हो गया, तो उ खाने के लिए भी, खाना बनाने के लिए भी किरासन तेल का इस्तमाल करते है। दे रीजन्स गीवन फर जस्टिफाइंग दे प्राइस हाएक्स आर दे अन्दा देखाऊरीज अप ओल मारकेटिंग कंपनीज, लिए दीख ऐस्टिख किराइस खाने के आढ़ प्राइस रुग, जो वौग प्रूईँन क्या आजएड़्द्टिद प्रूएड़़ा लग्प्सिया जवाँआचाऊँ। आद Ocean is not a loss with as if somebody has lost money cuz there is an under recovery Under recovery is simply the difference between a notional prize, which is calculated based on a formula which was crafted on an import parity prize. download The formula includes freight pooling, it includes import duties, it includes a loss in transit, so many other things so you get an import iversary price ologie price ologie price at the point of sale and against that import parity price if the company is getting let us say the import parity price is X and the company gets X minus 2. 2 is the under recovery. It is not that X minus 2, the company is loosing money. At X minus 2 also the company may be making money. So under recovery अप्राक्टार कराटी करते है, सब दो तो चोपनागन लोगा सोम करटाते। तुभ वर्शिः, है क्राटाते ड़नाजा उ Cooper is simply a difference between a notional price which is a meaningless number and what the actual realisation is, its not a loss. अग्ड़ी ताकषों के है। थो ता था ये की सब अछ आप सब ज़ैंगे दा हैं। ूए ूओिट्टी ूओिटि ूओिटि ॐ ुए ूओिटि ुट्टी ॐ ैज आजा ूए ूऑज़ा ॐ ुटूए ूऍथ ॼ। ूओिटि ।ूओिटि ृप्रन्य ूःदर शेकलत. ूए ॐठाटि ॄझफ बनना था।iahscomission sexiesduty alone accounts for nearly 15 cash in the case of diesel production cost is 25.11 rupee after adding 11.88 rupee as taxes the retail price comes to 37.75 rupees thusthere is a strong case for reducing tax on petroleum products for reducing tax on petroleum products. While international crude price is indeed high, diesel and gasoline prices in developed countries are lower than what is the case in India. In fact, gasoline prices in the US is lesser than the diesel price at pump in India. The logic of high subsidization is flawed too. During financial year 2010-11, petroleum sector contributed Rs 1,36,000 crore to the ex-checker of central government and Rs 80,000 crore to the state governments. The total comes to Rs 2,16,000 crore. On the other hand, the subsidies were Rs 40,000 crore. That is only 20% of the taxes and duties collected by the government. In other words, for each Rs 100 paid, Aam Aadmi gets Rs 20 in subsidy. There is no subsidy on Indian energy. If anybody tells you that the Indian energy sector is subsidized, they are not telling you the truth. And I am talking purely the energy sector. Food is a separate issue and fertilizer is part of the food chain. Now, if you look at the total taxes collected on the entire energy sector, not just the petroleum sector, I am also including the power sector. Because I treat the losses in the power sector, which are cash losses are running somewhere between 40-45,000 crores. I am including that also as a subsidy, because the cash loss is nothing but it may be theft, it may be whatever, but the fact of the matter is that the state electricity board loses that money, loses cash to that extent. Now, even if I include that, the total taxes collected on the energy sector far exceed the total subsidies. So, to say that there is a heavy subsidy and that is causing a fiscal issue is simply not correct. The energy sector is still a net contributor to your fiscal revenues. It would have made more sense for the government to reduce the indirect taxes on fuel and raise revenue through higher direct taxes on the rich. But that is not to be. Whether you price it internationally or price it in a different manner, energy will remain, it is a merit good. A lifeline level of access to energy is a merit good in this country. The fact that two-thirds of the population has no access to commercial energy should be a bigger problem than how we price this. Fuel price hike has been justified on the basis of high international crude prices. This is insensitive to the concerns of the common people whose wages have not increased in real terms. If this should not happen, then the salary should also be increased. First, this was a four-rupee rate. And we used to get money from time. But now this is half the price of the piece. And we don't raise money for six months. We have given them a high position. And if they do this with our people, then how long will this government last? Surely, a government sensitive to the concerns of the common people should have avoided burdening the people further with fuel price hike even as inflation rate is high.


Boris, a nice win against Gopal today. Can you tell us what happened? Well, we played quite a rare line of anti-Grunfeld. Okay, playable positions. Some games we played. And right from the opening, after the opening, a lot of finesses. I spent a lot of time because of an accurate move and he could equalize immediately. But then he blundered this d5 breakthrough. And then we get to the best he could get this end game with a pwn down. With some chance. But I think I played well. I found some good ideas here, how not to allow his counter play. And that's how it went. But of course, also psychologically, it's much nicer to play when you have a pwn up and your opponent be demoralized by a blunder. He actually had a good result against Hikaru yesterday. Did you see that while you were preparing against him? So yesterday, it's a great game. Beautiful idea. At a certain moment, I even thought he could try it for something better than DRO. But probably Hikaru understood it. And when he visits, his exchange job has to be careful and locked on the board. Right now, Boris, give us a little bit of an insight on how one would repair in such a situation where you've got the white pieces. You're playing against a young talent who's having a good tournament. How do you really prepare before the game? Well, I take all the games from the database of my opponent. Look, first of all, on his openings. Also look how he played with the strong players just to have an idea. Yeah, if he plays just defensively or he goes through his style or he goes for a full game. And then I decide what is the best idea for me to play against him. Okay, it depends. Some players have a wide repertoire. With Gopal, he normally plays Grunfeld. He's a very big expert in it. He has a lot of interesting ideas, so I decided to play anti-Grunfeld today. Right. Now, you've been here a couple of days. Your first time in Gibraltar. How's your experience been so far here? No, I really enjoy being here. It's a really great place and the tour I had on the day of the opening ceremony is incredible. Well, really. And yesterday Seagal came to my balcony. No monkeys yet in your balcony? No, but as I told this year, they don't come. But I saw monkeys upstairs, up to the mountains. But Seagal came and yesterday it was a horrible rain. But it's a very good atmosphere here and the tournament and the place is beautiful. I'm very happy I made it here and I'm playing this great tournament. We are very happy to have you here, Boris. Good luck with your remaining games. Thank you very much. Six interesting games lies ahead. Thank you.


Pratik, you would argue that the only way to counter falsehood and fake videos is to actually circulate the truth. And the answer to such fake news or the ecosystem of fake news is to also get a set of people who can react immediately and responsibly, not through counter fake news, but through actual truth. And alt-news is really an exercise of that kind. Yes. In alt-news, the exercise essentially is that, I spoke about internet literacy, the exercise is essentially to try and instill a sense of doubt in a user. Because we want to tell them that yesterday you forwarded this, this was fake, day before that you forwarded this, this was fake.  Is this true? Because I have been told so many times that what I posted yesterday and for so many days, a lot of it has been fake. So is this true?   You know, to think here is the other point that you talked about the filter bubble of the Facebook that people tend to stay in groups which are closed and they only therefore see what their friends and relations are seeing. So, you get a certain kind of ideological conditioning which is reinforced. Well, Google is not very dissimilar. Yes, it's a little better than Facebook perhaps, but as you know, the filter bubble came out, the book called Filter Bubble came out at a time when Facebook was not even really important. Right. So what you are seeing is the digital platforms tend to segment viewers and you tend to therefore get caught into this kind of filter bubbles. Now, how do you think therefore the critical conditioning that you are talking about can take place when a certain set of people will always believe what their ideology tells them to believe and they also tend to be much more close-minded and shall we say pray to emotional conditioning rather to what I would call as objective truth. So, yes, there will be people, you know, there are people who you will give them every fact in the book to show that X is fake, they would still doubt it and there will be that section of population. But you know, this exercise is larger in the sense that what I personally believe is that you know, there is a large portion of neutral population who are making their electoral decisions. They are already starting to make the electoral decisions based on fake news, you know, because that is constant conditioning.   So, you know, all the news is essentially trying to target that area, you know, where who are not blind to facts anymore. Obviously, those who are absolutely blind to facts, who have been brainwashed, you know, in different institutions right from the start, irrespective of which political ideology they may be, it's impossible to reach out to them. And there is a whole section of population which is beyond them. Now, the almost bitioric success of alt news, and I must say, since we run NewsClick, we are quite jealous of you. The bitioric success of alt news would show that there is really been that population which is willing to critically look at the phenomena of fake news. And therefore, what you are saying is now partially proven by the kind of response you've got? I think so. For example, we have this email address contact at altnews.in, and we keep getting emails. Is this true? Is this true? Is this true? Is this true? So, you know, there is a lot of traction on Facebook, on Twitter, etc. We keep getting tagged. Is this true? Is this true?  But there are other people who when they realize that they have forwarded something fake. You know, there is a sense of guilt. And so that thing will, you know, come into play and, you know, people will start sort of asking themselves, you know, let me first sort of, you know, at least do some validation.  You know, should I believe in it or not?  So, you know, I usually say that, you know, it cannot be left to the common man to decide what is fake, what is not fake. Because after a 9 to 5 job, you know, they have a couple of hours for entertainment in which, you know, they check the WhatsApp. Many do not have the technical capacity to actually figure out what is fake or not. And many do not have the time. So, you know, these are the people who are now going online and they are asking, you know, is this fake? Is this fake?  Apart from the success of all the news, which I said we are quite jealous of, how else would you see this war against fake news? Let me term it as that. Has seen some success? Do you think it has worked? Apart, as I said, of course, you've been able to successfully expose some of the worst elements that have been there. But do you think the number of sites which won't face such kind of Facebook pages or who promote such fake news has dropped? Do you see the number of people becoming more cautious about fake news? Do you think there is a growth in this respect? The number of fake news sites have actually increased. They have not dropped. Because fake news sites, people have realized that there is a business model in there. There is a way to make money. We have written a story on alt news where we found this website called newspoor.in, which was run, you know, there was a Twitter trend called I support Rohit Sardana, which was a fake trend. People were sort of trending that because it was claimed that Rohit Sardana had five fatwas against him. Rohit Sardana in the evening comes on Twitter and says, there are no fatwas against me. It's a fake news. So then we tracked who actually put that out. And there was this website called newspoor.in. I think they've taken it down now. I mean, the person who was running it has taken it down now. That had put the initial fake news that there is five fatwa. And it became a trending topic for the day. So I wrote that piece. And I said that this is the guy who runs it. There was a Facebook post on his Facebook timeline, which said that he has earned 20,000 rupees that month from advertisement. I put that post. Then three days later, this person contacts me via VIP call, VIP number, and says, I am the guy. And how did you find me, blah, blah, blah. And in a very respectful, very cordial man is calling me bhaiya, et cetera. So then we exchanged phone numbers. And I called him. And it turns out that he was a 12-standard boy who was doing this, earning 40,000 rupees per month. His father was a farmhand in Ranchi, earning 6,000 rupees per month. And he said that I am doing this because I need to study further. And if I put out anything other than fake news, nobody's going to read it. So I put out fake news. He had an ideological leaning. But that was not the driving factor. If he had a different ideological leaning, he would have still done it, according to me. Because he was doing it for money. If you look at a beat reporter or a stringer, and somebody who's new and just graduated, they would probably earn, what, 14,000, 15,000, 20,000 maximum. But here is a boy from 12-standard who runs a website and makes 40,000 a month purely based on fake news. So there's a business model. And this business model has been replicated at various levels. We have put out stories of websites like insistpost.com, I-N-S-I-S-T, et cetera. And they have a full-fledged office, somewhere in Noida, where there are people, proper desks, people working on laptops, creating content, and things like that. We all know about postcard news, et cetera. They also have a staff. Hindutva.info is another website where the guy who runs his name is Rajesh Jindal. He went on to boast about how he wants to create this ecosystem of blogging. While he's himself running a site which puts out tons of fake news, he wants to create an ecosystem of blogging. And in that video, there is a passing screenshot which shows the money in his advertising account, which was $32,000.