It's just a freesome today We do normally have raggers Is he is unavailable? I'm afraid. I mean, I'll probably mention that again He hasn't been uploading much either. Oh, he's working on stuff. Why the according to discord I'm peaking like crazy not discord. Oh, yes. Why is this? People gonna be like you sound too loud, but Do I sound any different to you? Pull up the stream what chat thing you don't sound any different on the stream either Concealing I'm like hitting the red on the uh, on the OBS detector thing. It's like, oh god. Well Apparently I sound fine. So that that is just I got the chat on my window. So I'll monitor it for you. Very well, sir Yes, hello everyone and welcome to eFap number The foreroo we have a very wonderful special guest mr. The act man. How'd you do? Mr. The act man, I believe that's how they say it. Yes That is how they say it. You know some say mr. Act man Some say performing dude, whatever your preference. I accept it all Indy I believe you have me on the show here Oh, well, of course we like people from all walks of life and you know what?   I was like, oh my god.  I Still I still Stubbles battlefront 2 is yeah, I was so fucking Not only was I so hyped about the release of that game, but I was also hyped that trailer because um, I Remember vividly or may or not the trailer, but my bit in the in that video that I did I have this vivid memory and I can't remember if I mentioned it in the video But this was like sixth grade the year is 2005 and we're all in music class and I remember there's this one nerdy kid I'm not gonna say his name, but The music teacher asked us like does anyone know what day it is and the nerdy kid And of course I was a nerd too, but the nerdy kid's hand shoots up and he's like the day Star Wars Battlefront 2 comes out and just like Like shouting that in class and I just remember thinking like God I can't wait to play it either like I Spent way too much time with that game. I think I bought it on like how many platforms did that come out on? Cuz I definitely had it on PC and game It was on PSP ps2 Xbox PC was it on Gamecube or is that a false memory? I must have had it on PS2 on Xbox because it had a higher player count second that PlayStation fans well, I remember the the I Remember buying it on multiple things, but I never actually got to play online with all other people or at least not much I was mainly just playing Galactic Conquest constantly as every different team different Different maps different.  It's like my favorite.  It's like oh, it's so cool. Yeah mad respect Mm-hmm I always played on moose to far and I always want to be Obi-Wan so I could have the Anakin versus Obi-Wan music play in The background That was my favorite thing to do Some people in the cheddar saying me an act man are too quiet too quiet too quiet That's gonna bump us up a little I guess like I'm gonna double you both. I'm gonna hear about complaints by you too. Oh Yeah, they go chat. They have been doubled now. Let me know if you want to push it further The fap is a rip off of Fern golly. Just so everyone knows. It's not the one with Medea was a different one Sure, there is a big black thing in there Yeah, I'll catch it it is offensive. Uh, I was Just be like, yeah, we stream them boys. It's like the most topical thing right now So I was just talking to Wolf about it earlier We will mention it just because it happened and it's hilarious. Well part of it is hilarious part of it is tragic But does it act bad? Do you know anything about pro Jared? Um Yes, there's something on my Twitter feed about that trending in USA. Oh You do not know what it is He's massively trending.  He's posted in the last year or like, you know, very infrequent upload So You know kind of not a good position to be in and then I think he's focusing let's plays He had like a second channel. He's doing that on Yeah, the quick version is he cheated on his wife and he divorced him via Twitter allegedly. Yeah But he divorced her via Twitter Well, that's what I've been hearing and I know that he blocked her as well. It is the most build. This is the thing Go and search for yourselves.  I've never seen a channel take this kind of damage this quickly Yeah, that's some serious battle damage And yeah millions people just make more subs than are active on Monday Matt's channel. That's not fair He lost more than five subs. Okay, well I know that was that was so cool. Anyway, it's probably worth mentioning rag is is not here today He is unavailable at this time. I believe he's possibly on another stream I'm not 100% sure however and think of this as a weird two-parter in which Wolf and an eye get to have a guest and talk about all things video game ease and other things and then on Monday It's gonna be me and rags with a very special guest talking about other things And so you get like two halves of a hole and I'm in both of the holes because I'm obviously I'm the best character on this This TV show I have the best arc Mmm, I love the most I feel like you get the most screen time. I do typically Yeah, there's he's just so long that he can't have most of the screen time. Yeah But speaking of which with the whole podcast thing I'm actually this is actually gonna be my last show until June Because next week I'm not available and the week after that I head out on a two-week vacation. So Yeah, which means mean local furry convention.  Or is it a different one? Yeah, well, I've been doing the same trip the past couple years. I just go camping out in Colorado I was gonna say like that. I believe that was the same time being ranks did like double guests last year, right?   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like he's gonna be the villain of EFAP season three Well, this is remember we just had the mid-season. So this is the second half of season three now First episode so good start. I reckon It is a very good start Introduced as an innocent happy friendly character and he's gonna stab wolf in the back right through the spinal column Me in the back. Why not you?  Oh, yeah And then I go into like am I going to like, um, I don't know abandon my pet without even giving him a goodbye pat I like this is really great right in whatever you guys are talking about. I'm loving it Yeah, and you know my pet that got shot through the neck it happens because I forgot Oh Yeah, I forgot about the person who might be able to do that.  It's not worth it. It's like stay away Stay away from the board We could we could talk about that first if you guys want to if you guys want to talk a bit about Awful everything inspired to like Make a video on it and like Um, just just like real quick. I haven't really ever Gone into like tv or movie territory content on my channel. Um, maybe like here and there but Uh, been really thinking about doing a game of thrones video And like Yeah, well like talking talking about like what the real tragedy of the show is Everything you're talking to the right people Because yeah, yeah, I've been watching religiously since season two was released. I think that's where I started But it it's not gonna be what you think it is Well, no and fun enough mel's just highlighted in chat a year ago literally before this season released I told mel you need to watch all of it so that you can see the end and It wasn't a couple of days ago. Maybe a week ago.   It depends on what they want if I was like, yeah, you'll get some good tv out of it then Is is it because of two particular episodes? Yeah Episodes two general directions. Well, yeah that and we can clearly see where they're going with certain things For example, sir, she's obviously going to be the bad guy who gets killed um But I I think Daenerys is going to be the the secondary bad guy who gets killed I think that bran is going to end up on the iron throne and his advisors are going to be terry and brawn and uh Who else tavos I also think that john is going to be very regretful about it and he's going to go back to the wall Hey, you'll see ghost there destroyed wall. Uh, you know, hey, that's not a not a bad See the thing is um I've seen a lot of videos And uh, you guys would probably agree that a lot of shade is like being thrown at the writers uh db weiss and David benioff, right? Yeah Yeah Yeah, so how how much of the criticism sent towards those guys would you guys say is fair? all of it Okay, so have you seen the quote where they explained why Daenerys didn't see the iron fleet coming? Uh, I didn't see that so they say uh, forgot you forgot about the iron fleet Is that what they said they said that one for one word for word what he said pretty bad That's pretty bad. There's a lot of evidence that they have no idea what this show even is anymore Um, there's a couple of things i'm prepping for my video, but uh But i'm gonna i'm gonna be i'm gonna be doing that's my next video now I need to make a patreon post about it. It was supposed to be moving on with tfa and then I got bumped up by Game of thrones episode three I was like, that's it. I'm done I'm gonna leave alone then episode four happened and I was like you kidding me And then I checked the leaks and I was like, okay. Okay. All right It's got to a point where I actually checked the leaks and I usually try to avoid that at all costs But at this point my investment is so out the window that i'm just like, I don't even care anymore Just tell me what happens and then I see it and it's like, oh Yeah, and so I'll definitely be making another video at the delay of tfa, but this has to be done game of thrones I need to lay it to rest Because god dammit all those years I've I've watched that show like over again in prep for the coming season for like every season It's not the worst part is it's like I've been I've watched all the episodes multiple times. I've read all the books And at this point because let's be honest. We're never going to get the last two books Where there's like a zero point zero one percent chance that will get the winds of winter But we're never getting the last one ever So it's like well, what's the point of getting up to those conclusions? well There's a lot of supporting evidence I wouldn't I wouldn't hold out hope for getting the rest of the books, but it's awesome But I think that's really like the main issue like obviously you can you can Throw shit at the writers which you know they deserve a bit of it I think for the direction they've the overall direction they've taken it and the difference in writing But at the same time it's like imagine going into this huge project this huge project and thinking That the the person who is coming up with this story is going to be like writing it alongside you the whole time Like remember when um the first harry potter movie came out And I think jk rellen had like maybe just finished order of the phoenix or goblet of fire Like how would the last three or four movies have gone if those books just didn't come out and like you know They were on a schedule, you know, so I think a lot of this You know really has to go towards george for not getting his shit together and and like Buckling down and actually finishing The story he's created. Oh, yeah, I don't think people give enough criticism to george because he's People always say george has always been a slow writer and that's just patently incorrect Because the first three books which come out to like over a million words in total. They like the best Yeah, I mean they came out in the span of five years. So roughly one of moller's series Roughly Uh, but then the the two books that came after that which were supposed to be one Come out over the span of 11 years And they're real the drop in quality is Enormous compared to the first three books because the first three books are incredible The fourth and fifth ones are just bad And then he wrote a night of the seven kingdoms, which is okay at best He wrote blood and fire which takes passages out of another book Completely and it's a giant waste of time And he just goes to all these talk shows and all these Conferences to talk to fans and shit And it's like george you're just lazy I don't think you can give him enough criticism Like that's I I really think this is all just like a big series of unfortunate Events there we go. We'll have that lemony snicker. I know that reference. Yeah. Yeah Good have you seen have you guys seen that meme? It's like a picture.  Did you give it credit to the person who made he doesn't know that meme? We're getting into inception here. There's too many memes but um, uh Oh, what I was getting at is it's like you you can It's not any one person's like fault at the series has more or less like Uh degraded in quality, which I think it undoubtedly has um because like Okay, the writers don't have any more source material to go off of george is pretty much like at the point where he's just enjoying The spotlight and and the fame and everything and you know Can you blame him for you know going on all those talk shows? Um Well, I can't blame him but at the same time it's like if I was in his position I would Finish them Yeah, and like you show my fans a little bit of respect now. I want I want to say Just because george didn't finish the books doesn't excuse the fact that dave and dan are like two of the worst writers If I could bring an analogy here, right like let's picture them They're just they're running across a track and george is building the track by putting bricks down And then you know around season six ish Let's say he's run out of bricks and they're just running on like thin air But you reach season eight and instead of watching them attempt to run across this thin air They just pull out a gun and shoot themselves in the head and you're like, uh Okay, you didn't have any track but I mean You didn't really help yourself that he kind of did Um true I was impressed with season eight like and this is the thing I've survived a lot of bad writing across game of thrones And this I was just like wow Like this is the first time where I was like It broke my immersion to the point. I had to look up spoilers because I just don't care and I made it through season seven That's a low bar I made it through the last jedi for that matter Didn't we all didn't we all For one for that speaking of which moller we need to ask him the the episode nine question. Yes Okay, so act man, uh when when approaching episode nine Who do you think will be the character that is written most inconsistent with what we understand about them up to that point? Oh, that is a good question. That is a really good question um I kind of wasn't done talking about game of thrones. Oh, we can come right back. Don't worry just if you Yeah, I would love to come back. We will come right back.  Okay Who will be Written the most inconsistently With what we know so far about the series. Is that the question? Yeah, so your choices would be like fin po, hux ray, luke, bb8, r2d2 layer that sort of thing You can't choose kylo. You can't choose lando and you can't you can't choose. Oh, why not? You can't choose palpatine We know that they're going to be the most inconsistent ones It was three or off the table you go choose something more interesting Well, I think it's really cool that Or at least the idea of luke coming back as a ghost is like Cool in its own way.  You're in good company. ER voted for luke as well Nice nice Two two major guests in a row voting for the same guy. Maybe it's They really will be luke Maybe it'll be so inconsistent. He goes back to being normal luke again. It's weird The votes for the rags and wolf did no one else has voted them You guys are a lot of rags go for rags went for hucks huh But I mean honestly it could be anyone hucks is the the general of The long guy. It's a bit.  I don't know.   I don't even know his name Oh, all zeal Roll all zeal This is the notion to that ancient religion.  There's like this perception. I think that um When things are going good, you know, you give praise But like when something goes bad, whether it be like writing or you know, even in sports or football there's like this attitude of Uh, what have you done for me recently?  Did you like? Well, first off, have you have you actually read the books or No, oh, okay, so he might not know how that was adapted. Yeah, okay, right, but um, the point of like Like season one through four.  I uh Yeah, I just think they don't care anymore. That's my assumption about all that It could be and they've lost interest. They want to move on to star wars Yeah, the producers too like and now being on time constraints, you know, like So you have no source material You're getting like little to no help from george and now you have time constraints that you've never had before So like I think no matter who it is Someone's gonna no matter who the writer is Even if it was george with these time constraints, I think you know It would be impossible to have like a truly Satisfying resolution to the whole series Given the circumstances, which is you know, which is more or less like my main point and what my uh Video will probably be about I mean I look forward to it. I just you know be careful because everyone hates those two right now And out of curiosity Um, are you aware that uh, one of the directors dave? Is it been off van hoff or any off? I think yeah, yeah, bennie off.  That's a plot Hey He actually could tell the future he didn't get killed in the walls Well, what if it was like it's the oracle bold thing it was just like it shows the killing of himself and Just as he realizes ackman's like shoe comes down He saw it in the plant here Also, sorry if my voice is like weird because i'm like moving all around But don't you hate when you squish a bug with something and then it just like keeps moving like nothing happened like What the fuck? I don't know man. He said no not john I Pull spider what did it do to you sir? It came into my house, you know, that's unacceptable We have so many spider memes on the show. It's kind of insane So the chat's like sad that you're killing the spider. Yeah, I think that's Well, he got away. So who's the bad guy now? It's me. I guess He'll still the back Um But yeah, I mean so do you do you think it's hyperbolic that episode four is the lowest rating?  That was really cool. Wow.  Wow. That's really cool Like, you know, and then we'll talk in like Jorah Thoros of mir, you know, um Uh, what's what's the guy's name with one eye bar barrick? Oh, uh, barrick. Yeah, barrick, you know And the hound and like seeing all those guys talking john snow and tormin You know really great characterization. What happens after that?  You know Like uh, yeah, I think the concept is really good, but the execution is horrible. Yeah Like the thing is cool about how we got there. It doesn't make any sense sort of Yeah, and so like to add on to that episode uh season eight episode three Malisandre coming out lighting all the dothraki swords on fire.  That's really cool Them all charging forward and just like dying. Wow.  You know Yeah, that episode is just full of that. This is the thing episode four Um on my first watch through I was mostly okay with the first I want to say half on rewatches I'm not because I've been prepping my script for it. There's more problems. I've found um, But you know, this is the thing the thing with regal was so stupid that like It just yanked casual viewers out of the episode um, I was talking about this before uh to I think Alex and fringy know this um, so I went for my dentist check up my my my normal annual check up today And uh, I didn't realize I'd put on a shirt that had gamer thrones on it because I have one of those And my dentist was like, how are your choppers really good? They're just wonderful. Well, he's british, you know the answer to that I know that's that's why uh, sorry.    And then they were like, well Uh, not been enjoying it as much as the other episodes and I was like Really, they were like Yeah, the battle episode a bit silly wasn't it silly I said, oh, what did you think of the the next one with with the dragon getting uh, getting getting killed? She was like, yeah, it's another dragon gone for no reason, but You know, my god, you have the best dentist. Oh, this is the thing. I was like even dentists don't like it What have they done? Yeah, of course because dentists aren't people. Nope, not people Well, obviously the point I'm making is that when you're average audience Just people who casually watch tv In the moments of the the nights that they have an hour free Those people aren't having fun What have you done? Yeah, I I feel like I always have to dial back my opinions when I'm watching Movies or shows that are terrible with a friend. I don't think they said They should yeah I mean, it's funny when my friends are like laughing at it because then I can be like, all right We all know this shit, but sometimes my friends will be like, oh, that was really good and I'll be like Yeah Nine out of ten dentists hated season eight Then I have to come home and either hope that you were fringier online so I can The dentist I don't like They're like the fight scene as a whole It take was silly You're in trouble guys Yeah, may the dentists turn against you Dentists of America knows what they lose next could it be the librarians? They won't lose interest Like you you uh, you didn't like the new ones. Did you hack man or you sort of Ella with them Uh, the new seasons and episodes Specifically three and four because I think I think liking one and two is totally forgivable for anybody because they're pretty they're pretty tame Oh Dude the end of episode one Like when jamie comes down and sees bran.   We haven't seen since then. Um, I mean, I I also totally melted when uh when ire hugged john in episode Oh, yeah Because that's I really care about those both individually and I care about the relationship they had being like they're both the runs of of the stark litter They both and and it's the thing it's almost cheating because i'm like you're almost banking on things that I Been invested in from before you're not necessarily creating something here Uh Through your own writing. It's literally you put ire and john in the same place That's enough for me to go. Oh my god. It's perfect and to be fair like that You know a lot of those character reunions haven't happened and you know when it's when like a Series is coming to a conclusion and those things like haven't happened It's you know, I think part of it is in service to the fans Uh and and the other part is like yeah, you know, these characters deserve like some time together to talk like Uh jurin denaris and uh What was they going to say so I like for the most part Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm mixed like episodes three and four you know I the plot holes are Pretty much unforgivable and like uh the way they kill the dragon. It's like oh you're on just showed up again like he's literally a plot device who like Is motivated by wanting to have sex with the queen like Like that's it. Yeah, that's as far as it goes. That's it. You know, so some of that stuff I think like overall I'm I'm still enjoying watching it with like my family and my girlfriend. It's like It's still entertainment at the end of the day and it's kind of goes back to what I was talking about like wow That was really cool. Wow.  You know, you have these like these two ends of the spectrum and it's now like Um, whereas for the first four seasons it was more like wow, that was really cool. Wow, that was really cool Wow, this is still really cool. You know Yeah, for me, I I'm pretty sure I told wolf the second after it actually happened But when regal got hit with the first Thing especially with the way they shot it basically my immediate reaction.  There's happy music She just smiled at him and then they zoom out nice and wide.  But then before you have a chance to like absorb it the second one hits him and you're like, what?  Just You were flying above the rocks Even worse though, I can't get over how much I despise John not saying goodbye to ghost Yeah, that's pissed off fans explanation for it more than most things and I don't think the showrunners ever saw that coming Can I uh, just give a shout out to eclipse 21 for this his killer reference our plot armor We'll blot out the sun If only so we would have to watch the shit Good man Yeah, as as cynical reviews just said she forgot about them It makes sense.  It's like, why did they even have cannons in those days? just Shreds it I feel it's the overall plot is just like too convenient now. That's that's the main problem. Everything is too convenient it's The main Powerful force sir.  It's like oh, he's really He gives morale boost. He's best on the ground.   Like I don't know why when Because you remember she's like they suggest that she'll burn any ships that try and give resources to king's landing And it's like, yeah, I could just picture the writers being like, oh, we should throw in a line where denarius goes What ships from who? Just go Makes sense. She's forgotten about God Yeah, someone pointed out john not saying goodbye to ghost is like leah not hugging chubaca at the end of tfa I'll give you another comparison, dude John announcing his real heritage to his lifelong family members and the film the show cutting away. What does that remind you of?  Is he no, but he was like, uh Damn it.    Have you seen the last jedi? This is the thing I think the only way they could have made it worse is having the night king fall over and then they go Oh, you had a heart attack Like, oh no It was pretty funny that that they had him smile Uh, that was hilarious So a lot of people thought that was like an uber badass moment The thing I liked about the white walkers personally was that they were essentially a force of nature It wasn't much about them that was very personal So the idea that he smirks at someone I'm like, um All right I can when I first saw that like before it really went into my head how much that That episode sucked like when I first saw him smirk.   It's like now you have no cavalry Why why aren't their arches like on the walls? I mean there were but and then like why they have their trebuchets In front of the guys rather than behind them. Not even that it's like I can I maybe understand some type of uh Positioning argument, but like why do you only have one shot of them like being fired and then they're never used again? It's like can we keep the siege going guys like the second the dothraki dead. It's like fire the trebuchets now And they just don't use them anymore The one good thing about the long night episode is that it's reminding people that lord of the rings still exists And people are like hey remember this remember how awesome those movies were let's watch those movies again Yeah, uh a lot of comparisons are made to helms deep especially. There was a boast that they beat helms deep's record for longest battle like in length Really? Yeah, which Yes, for sure. If you slow down loads of portions of characters getting overrun by zombies and don't die Yeah, you can make a longer battle than helms deep That's was it was it longer than the siege of gondor plus the battle of the pelot or fields though? I assume they separate those out I don't know though. Maybe not. I don't I don't know I would not well. I mean, I honestly if you told me if you asked me what's longer helms deep or that episode of Game of Thrones from the start of the fight to the end. I probably would have been like helms deep But apparently not I'd have to just check the numbers, but I I don't care like a lot of it is just Like I said slow motion people going And you're just like they dead or Mm-hmm like as as many people have commented Sam died like seven times in that episode Oh Battle for the wall episode and seeing how much of a better character Sam was just four seasons ago. I had man I feel like it's really upsetting I feel like me and you are the only one just really and this is obviously other people have talked about it Probably about check discussions looked at reviews.  He ruined Sam. He completely destroyed his character. Like if you watch episode eight Or episode three of season eight and then go back to Was that episode nine of season four? Yeah Yeah, episode nine of season four Like look at what happened to Sam. It's a different character youtube Sam defending gilly Yeah, that works.  It's And it's the thing if you if you present this to d&d, I imagine they'd be like Well, there's this was he was he was very scared and he forgot his development He forgot that the zombies existed They need to stop doing those inside the episode things, man People have started to watch them as like comedy sources now It's supposed to be awesome and epic to get the insider knowledge on things, but they just keep saying stupid shit They could probably get uh Some pretty good youtube poops made out of those videos then That's someone else I call that you guys would love.   I can't fathom how they could have possibly done that On these uh inside the episode videos the like dislike ratio is woof Well on uh that one that one was all right It's getting worse and worse. This is the thing. They've they've breached second for they've broken into the the normie view You upsetting, you know area Once you upset the normies, that's it. You've lost the war When you get when you get when you annoy like the hardcore law critic people you can survive that I think But when you've actually like pissed off people who just want to have a nice sunday night sort of thing Right that's trouble You can you can mess with the hyper critics because we're hyper critics But like the people who aren't hyper critical once they can start finding huge flaws and yeah, I think you've significantly, uh Damaged the show and the fans one thing that was hella funny is uh So we watched the long night and then episode four It's like my family and my girlfriend and my girlfriend was telling me about um How she was texting her friend about it and her friend was like, yeah, why was Why was Daenerys just flying up in the sky just frolicking through the sky? Like why was she just La la la life is good with her injured dragons, by the way Yeah, I I just loved the frolicking through the sky I can't believe thinking back on it now that she just had every single person pull out of um Dragonstone like there wasn't any of her forces there and it's her only fucking Uh seed of power aside from winterfell Yeah Like let's just all leave and all come back It's nothing can possibly go wrong The whole thing is bizarre than what you think about it and it's such a shame because um A lot of people are calling the correct ending of the entire show is the end of season I think they're going with first six Where you've got sir sees just taken the throne and completely Solidated sort of thing John has been made king in the north and he's controlling the north ready for the white walks approach and danney's crossing the sea With all of the armies and your dragons. It's basically Just just end there and we can all imagine what happens next You've got so much potential. It's through the roof Everything is all you know there's so many different ways you can end that story. I just so what we got is like The instant I found out like after season six ended that there was only going to be 13 more episodes I was like there's something something real wrong here And can we just mention like they've had two years to make this last season What yeah, what well spent season I mean like really you look at this season It's like what what did they do in season eight that they couldn't do in one year Why did it take two years for them to do that?  This is the thing.   Oh in the new intro Yeah What is that So this is the intro for game of thrones. I'm guessing a comparison of season eight to one of the other seasons and King's landing used to be original the right is the season. Yeah eight And yeah, it's a bizarre like what the hell is happening here and and this is the thing king's landing hasn't changed up until this very season and the assumption is that they did this because The way they shoot king's landing in this season is different from like any other season.  It will be it'll be infamous well It'll be remembered the same as lost Yeah, see I think Yeah, probably about the same as lost because I was going to say like maybe it'd be better or worse what it would probably Would it be fondly remembered because I think it'd be like it's just the last season of game of thrones Even though that's not true, but I think most people will probably say that Yeah, I don't I never watched lost. I've only seen the comparisons with lost everybody's gonna pick a different season for his downfall But everyone hates the ending Well, not everyone but you know Either way, yeah, we can we can kick on um I feel like Since it is act man and since wolf likes that A whole halo thing. I feel like we should probably just talk about it a little bit The whole halo thing. I am I'm done for whatever I've I've I'm gonna be the the weird one out of the group because I've only played Halo 3 halo reach halo odst and halo wars. They are that's my career played odst I didn't play it for long.  I mean, I was planning on just playing through all of them on uh when they re-release for pc.  I can play with wolf make him happy Well, he'll be like, oh, yeah. I have friends Yeah, do it But uh big combat evolved has the best campaign don't at me Does it wolf? I I don't agree with that. I love halo one but I think halo three has the best campaign Maybe halo reach In terms of its level design and well, I guess it depends on which And on what we're grading it as because if we're talking like, uh enemy intelligence and level design As much as I don't like reach reach is probably gonna win that because reach has a phenomenal design and really great enemies I'd say pure from pure gameplay standpoint I like I like combat evolved the most and I think uh, yeah, I would say Combat evolved in three or probably the two that I play the most halo two If we're grading it in terms of story, I think halo two is the best. Yep. Yep. All right. I'll shake your hand All right, I'll shake your invisible hand too whenever we go What about the best forge? um Probably five I mean, yeah five five as bad of a game as it is five has the best forge indisputably, but yeah by far I figured that forge should just go to whichever the newest one is because they just keep adding features, right? You would hope Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say It went like it was pretty solid as a level editor in halo three reach really up the bar four was an Unbelievable downgrade An unbelievable upgrade. Yeah, seriously. The only thing I don't like about five is how all the parts look like plastic Yep, that's just the general art style when you go tea for teen man When you go tea for teen. Oh, you know, uh, I forgot I should have told you about this wealth But uh, fringy actually showed me Um, I'm guessing a tailo five could be four. I'm not sure but when master chief fights like a random dude In a place where there's like floaty teleporty platforms. Oh Chief versus so genuinely like A layman's perspective on what because I have a fucking, you know, I ain't got no Thing on this but wow like I was just like why why any of this there's so much wrong with this The best thing is that a lame fight or what was that lame or what? Yes.   Um as two fat dudes fighting over a pancake Yeah, pretty much. They were just so slow clumsy It was it was embarrassing The obelisk thing I was actually like even from like a lore perspective. I was just like Is that how that works? You could just put it on somebody and it just fucks them up Yeah, that was just made up in halo 5.  Why would you show him?  You're just like If you want to hear about some really magically bad writing in halo 5 mauler There's a scene in act man. You'll know what i'm talking about It's the first guns down mission in any halo game and they happen to you have to go around this settlement and ask people Questions to find clues to find out where master chief is gone And you go up to one guy and you're like Hey, what are you doing and he's like, I don't want to tell you about the pelican I saw flying over the mountain Oh god And and one of the characters is like did he say something about a pelican flying over a mountain to the east and they're like Let's find out some more and so they go to another guy and he's like Hey, do you know about a pelican that flew over a mountain to the east and here's like I don't want to tell you about the the spartans that went into a factory And another guy's like did you hear that they said something about spartans going into a factory? Yeah I'm like i'm paraphrasing a little but it's the exact same. It's the gist is there. That's what it does That's they like unironically accidentally tell you exactly what you want to know It is some of the most magically bad writing i've ever seen Yeah I think the focus of this this podcast so far has been bad writing Well, what is the worst indisputably is halo 5 then is it or? Oh, yeah, um You could probably like story wise. I'd say yeah Oh, yeah, if we're talking you could probably make in our gameplay argument like um, I didn't think halo 5 was you know All that enjoyable gameplay wise, but you know, I mean gameplay wise it was solid It just wasn't halo is the big problem with it My most of my problems with halo 5 stem from it's not a halo game and it really destroys the story If we're uh, every halo game kind of does something a little different So which I at least quite great of all the same way Yeah, which you know at least at least the halo series has that you know with call of duty, you know A lot of it just all looks the same and plays similar and they've got the different little Uh gimmicks and whatnot so I like to reach Reach was fired, dude Except for armor lock except for armor lock I mean, this is the thing. I was always such a casually halo fan. I was just like, oh, is this the new one cool? Like I uh, I was never invested, but this is the problem. I just didn't start early I think if I did I probably like it a lot Because man, there's a halo fan base, you know And uh, oh, yeah a lot of them passed over to destiny and they were like, this is great.  I don't really trust bungee. What's your take on it? Um I feel like Who did they sign on with or no, they got some Funding from some like chinese company, didn't they? I have no idea. The last thing I heard about it is that they split from activision I don't know what they signed with after that. Yeah, I did a video on it And I I'm pretty sure they still have like a huge amount of funding coming from this random chinese company, but I I feel like um If they don't start going into like shitty mobile games, I think they'll have more creative freedom You know because the chinese they love their they love their mobile games um They'll I think yeah, I think they're gonna be better off, but at the end of the day it's like Who really knows um And for me, it's like I haven't really seen bungee Care about a game they've made in quite a long time and a lot of the people that used to be at bungee Aren't at bungee anymore. Like a lot of the talent has kind of gone Even like all the dlc is like that's that's you know, I've been Kind of working on this video for like revisiting destiny 2 and I put it on the back burner for a while But I just remember like playing through the two dlc's It was like curse of osiris and war mind and I'm almost through uh forsaken but those first two it's just like It's just like why is this a story? Is this am I supposed to care? Who's this is this? It's just like an exposition stream and it's like Who's that? Oh, that's that's osiris. He was the guy who did the blub blub blub blub, but yeah, but why should I care? Why should you care? That's osiris. He was the one who split and it's just like that's the writing I feel like writing's failing everywhere Yeah It was just being more aware really hard to find any competent writers Well, and we're also pretty critical. So that is true Maybe if we were just a little less critical, we'd be like, you know what writing's pretty good these days I still think uh, yeah, there's always going to be good and bad writing out there and everything in between So which is the best halo game? three Best multiplayer, I'd give it to three best story. I'd give it to halo two Best campaign gameplay. I'd give it to combat evolve best atmosphere. I'd give that to odst Best overall content I'd give that to reach And best overall I would say best overall is three because it does everything Really well Like if we're going to go off of I mean, obviously it doesn't have the best forge But what it does with it is still effective Whereas like halo four you can give it like some credit for a couple different areas, but for most of it you can't I think it probably comes down to like three or reach depending like really comes down to preference because they're both like Super filled with content and reach has firefight on top of it as well as a better forge.  I really don't like reach Fight fight if it wasn't for how broken and unbalanced the armor abilities were then the multiplayer in reach Could have easily been the best and if it didn't have bloom for that matter Well, I didn't have dual wielding. So And that's no halo game after after your three action. No wait did odst. Do you have dual wielding?  I don't remember what they were called There was the skirmishers and then there was the dual wielding skirmishers. Oh, yeah with plasma pistols Yeah Yeah, we agree that halo five is the best Agreed What what what are the assumptions about halo infinite? Is that like is there anything other than just it's announced or? Information they keep saying we have the slipspace engine and it's like what does that mean? that like It's just a new engine. Yeah, I was okay. We have literally no information on it beyond that I feel like I've heard like little tidbits of info, you know, I would hope there's some kind of like Compilation of all of these like like what we know now sort of things because I don't think there's been like really any big official discussion by 343 um I do remember hearing a rumor that it was going to be like one of the most expensive video games ever made I don't know the validity of that but Well, we don't have that kind of goes with like destiny Just because you have a big budget doesn't mean it's going to be good by default This is true. This is very true And I I don't know I can't trust 343 because they haven't really made a great game I mean the best game they've come out with is halo wars 2 and that wasn't even really made by them Yeah, I've had a lot of like outside help Yeah I suppose it's I mean Be a hopeful right both of you I mean, I'm kind of interested in what they're gonna do because they've pretty much disavowed halo 5 from the canon because it's like Destiny kind of did that with the darkness, you know, they didn't bring up the fucking darkness at all in destiny, too Oh, yeah I mean you look at the steam description for the mcc And it's like master chief's legacy spans over six games And two of those six games master chief isn't even in They count reach and odst more than they count five, which says quite a lot So I don't know what they're Sure, but I wonder what they're gonna do because I mean halo five isn't on pc I mean custom games is but that doesn't really count right So I wonder if it's gonna be like a total retcon of halo five or Or what I don't know I'm curious Yeah, it'd be strange to put every halo game except for five on pc if they were doing that though Yeah, that's true, which actually I mean if if they did put if they did put every Halo game including infinite onto pc Do you think there is still reason to have an xbox one? Like really? Oh, yeah, I do Mostly that's just because I I prefer it For a variety of reasons Not exactly trying to go into the console pc debate Well, maybe we are but maybe Like Xbox for sure needs like way more exclusives, you know, if you look back to the original xbox Shit was just loaded like crimson skies, you know, you had a boating game with guns blood wake There is brute force of four player third person co-op shooter You had fusion frenzy is like your party game amped snowboarding I don't know if you guys were huge original xbox fans fusion frenzy was great Yeah, it was knock off mario party, but that was fine Hey, it appears to not an original xbox Totally fine. Um, at least for me. I feel like the xbox and like phil spencer and microsoft Like the console has just such great quality of life and all the like little features they're doing But as like a main selling point. Yeah, they need more exclusives Yeah, I mean ps4 it hasn't had a I mean it's been it's had a lot of Exclusives they've been kind of hit or miss depending on which ones you get but at least they have exclusives Yeah, whereas the xbox. I mean now that halo is on pc even gears is on pc at this point So it's like they don't have any exclusives which i'm not for exclusivity, but If your console doesn't have anything then well, I don't really there's no reason I would buy a console unless exclusives because Why would I want to the pc is just? Categorically going to play the game better if it possesses the game as well as the console With that I want my games on pc anyway because they'll last on there I mean you wouldn't be able to play the ultimate doom on the xbox one right now Because it doesn't have a player base, but it still does on pc even over 20 years later Yeah, that can be a halo will last a lot longer now that it's on steam That's like access to mods usually is not only easier, but also like a stronger community Also and vice versa like really keeps games alive the uh The fan base Or population count for all the call of duties are or way stronger on console. I know that at least so Yeah, I think that would be a call of duty guy, you know Look, how's cool do you do in these days? Like is that is there another one coming out soon? Act a man would know better than me on this one. I mean black ops 4 like I did way too many videos on that game. There's so much to talk about and just like I was gonna do a video right You know, I was playing a modern warfare 3s multiplayer for that video I did and even though like it's not my my most favorite It it like made it so hard to go back to black ops 4 and the main reason is like the maps like like unique maps and like the call of duty's biggest problem is Just making maps small and then having it every piece of cover be a block on a grid Like that's essentially what the game and the maps are or blocks on a grid, you know Do you think of strategic cover in other games how it might might be like cut off at certain angles or you know Just it's it's interesting. You might have like Murder holes or whatever It's in multiplayer ways. I don't care for I think blackout and zombies is still really fun.  It makes like been really hard I mean it makes anything really hard. It's extremely Irritating because once you take out that jumping penalty Then that's all everyone is going to do and it works in a game like halo where the gunplay is centered around something like that But call of duty isn't So it really breaks the flow of the game And then there's also all the guns are just remasters of guns.    That was my favorite card Yeah, black ops one is a really great game really world of war as well Oh, yeah, remember when we were playing keynote or toton like a few months ago. Yeah And then I had to remind you that the thunder gun was useful Well, this is the thing I No, no, my point was valid the the thundercut the you can talk about the wound of offer, right? No, the thunder gun which one wasn't on that map.  Yeah, I didn't I it's funny.  I think because you forgot how to use the thunder gun.  Well, I had to save you.  Did you ever Play willed at war shinonuma and get infinite weapons Um No back in the day. I was all about dareese Yeah, no that I love that map too. The reason I love shinonuma is because I hope people in chat know about this too Uh, there was like little glitches you could get on all the different maps but if you Would get you had two weapons at max obviously If you drink a perk and you manage to pick a weapon off the wall or through the pack a punch while drinking it It would literally just add a weapon to your roster Really?  You didn't get the um the upgrade machine in shinonuma So you literally would be plowing like everything from the mg 42 into a zombie Like when you get to that level of like level But shinonuma was great. So it's so open. You could just drive an entire horde like around in circles and stuff Interestingly, I didn't play the correct version of world at war until like black ops 2 came out Because the world at war I played was on the ps2 which didn't have multiplayer Didn't have zombies and the campaign was incredibly censored so it could be rated t Oh god, it was really bad That was my first call of duty game too. So I had a really bad impression of the series at first People who play on playstation. Am I right folks?  I haven't played enough of the cooler duties to make this statement But was black ops's campaign the best one or is there company? I was there's competition. I say black ops 2 is the best Oh, I disagree with that Because there's a lot of issues with black ops 2 your subjective opinion is objectively incorrect Because I played all three mom warfare's and I like them but I always thought black ops was better than all three mom warfare's stories And I love captain price, but I mean, you know Yeah, I mean I I liked modern warfare 2's campaign the best because it was a lot of fun But its story is really fucky Yes, it's a bit hit or miss in some places.  You remember that one on the psp or uh, ps vita rather I never played that. I heard about it though. I never played it, but I saw like videos of it and it's just tism incarnate I've always wondered what those just like Mobile call a duty games play like I've never had The courage to buy one and let alone play it um I I would really like to check that out someday You guys ever played the psp vision of battlefront 2 your og? Oh, I did.   Yeah, like it would just show like a gray Flat of nothing in front of you like imagine going on kashik you get out of the the siege wall And you literally can't even see the water because it just looks like there's fog there Yeah, I remember that being like one of the biggest problems of the og battlefront even on like console and computer Oh, yeah, you can uh fix the The og battlefront was speaking of which did you uh hear that it's actually on steam now?  No, that's like are you talking about the old one or the new one?  Oh the ea battlefronts you call it. Yeah, it's it's frankly insulting because The og battlefronts are way better. They have so many more maps so many more characters so many more custom classes and Are of hot some classes but classes in general like yeah, they they genuinely are good games And battlefront 1 and 2 from ea are just terrible I think the difference is like gameplay. They are definitely dated Um, they're still fun. It's more so like the features they had like like the first battlefront game Is is very dated.  That was another really great one But oh yeah, the maps are cool, but they're way too open Like there's not enough cover for most of them which battlefront 2 fixed a lot Yeah, that's true just like uh, you know from a technical standpoint the new like battlefront 2 the new one the ea 2017 it like It certainly is more refined in terms of gameplay I I just love that the battlefront 3 leaks from like 2000. What was it seven or so? They look better than anything we've had from the ea games I mean even uh elite squadron on the psp is a better game than either of the ea games Literally, we should have just had battlefront 3 and then and then just kept going from there. That's the timeline I want to be a part of yeah We'll always have og battlefront It's just that we just had to go out of uh business So anyway, you guys want to look at memes We got pictures or videos there's a couple of pictures and then one video We'll have to set up a watch together link. You know the thing you always In a moment, we'll just I'll get pictures done first They're just these things you gotta you know, you gotta see wolf because you won't be able to see a couple things for a while now Oh, yeah, it's gonna be a few weeks before I can see any memes. That's like the first one Oh, uh, the context here act man is that um, there's been a couple uh, a couple shows Where I've left to go get pizza And now the meme is that every time I turn off my mic. I'm going to get pizza Uh, I did a stream that's pretty great And uh, I was invited to go on geeks and gamers show And so I left and I went to the bathroom and people in the chat on geeks and gamers channel were saying that I left to go get pizza Yeah, I don't know if you saw this one, but it's still it's cute. It's cute I'm starting to think this bill bow baggins fellow didn't actually say That is a disgruntled fan right there who isn't believed that's lie Yeah, we we constantly make valuable baggins memes too This one might be tough to read, but it involves you so I had to have it Okay, oh it does.   Maybe I don't know.  They made something films because people are idiots wolf that's well I think we mostly got it It's a pretty great sketch there. I'd say we love all uh that comes in The photoshop ones with hardstone cards Vacuum soul. Oh god. Yeah, the ifa movies meme There's uh, there's a point and all the good stuff here. Yeah. Have you ever heard of the movie unicorn store? No, it's a it's a brie larson movie where she's trying to sell vacuums and she there's a line in the movie Where she says this isn't a vacuum for your home. This is a vacuum for your soul Vacuum soul And on that note boys Think it's about time. I hit the old dusty trail. Oh, well, I mean just before I there's just a few more of these You should totally this one. I'll just quickly get out of the way for wool. I can do that's real by the way No way.  Wonderful. Oh my god. Now we need to actually sell this. You just sell rino milk thermoses. Oh, just be yeah That's I wonder if we could get that done through some kind of mitch and dicing sort of website I love the the comic sans font.  Did you see the avengers one? Oh, yeah, you showed me this. Oh, well, it needs to be done live. I guess to make sure beowyn sees that you've seen it Yeah There's a new one. It's freakishly talented. Oh boy. This one the detail set up a star eight packer is that four sets of tits It's whatever you want it to be look at this one though look at this ryan johnson.   They have a total picture. Yeah, this is an artificial barriers of blockage Oh my god. Okay. I'm gonna really good.  Yes, you do.  This is too good. Oh, yeah, there is a little ori. I love it Um, but yes, uh, that is I mean as I see that Nice detail beautiful. The whole thing is beautiful. And this is the thing. I feel like that Almost like they're getting more detailed as they go Because this is beowyn's rise to uh fame It's kind of terrifying how good of an artist beowyn is how much effort he puts into pictures of of this Wonderful, uh, but yeah, uh, obviously I don't know I don't want to keep you for longer than you can but I really appreciate you uh You coming today, mr. Of course the act man Would you like to maybe I don't know talk about your channel just a little bit so I can I can throw The link in the old chataru and uh people can consider subscribing to you Sure. Oh, by the way, I love that you just changed your profile picture to that Fucking face that that's a really good profile picture. I might keep it honestly Well, my name's the act man, you know, I do all sorts of videos and by all sorts of videos I mean about video games, but um Yeah, you know old games new games why they're awesome why they're bad Maybe mediocre awesome and bad, you know, just kind of a review channel and as far as like how how much I go into the videos and I feel like i'm describing this in a very bland way, but you know Like just very by the book's description I do abnc I mean you do abnc. Well, so isn't that just a sale right there? Yeah Um, yeah, abnc. If there are don't just do them. I do them well As Zach Gilbert just said there's there's super chat questions potentially for for the acting male Um, if there are I'd have to go through them first and so The I'm afraid I don't think he's going to be able to get to them Specifically, but I can always There's so that you know, we usually read super chats at the end of the show and um There may have been questions for you amongst them Um, okay.  So there's that Indeed I can find any question a lot of just memory, you know Uh memory. Oh act man. Have you seen dragon ball super brawly and any Gundam? Nah, I haven't I'm I wish I could give you a better answer than that.  So Act man, love your videos dude. We're still waiting for a public commando sequel Damn right we are And you know what we're probably never gonna get it, but we might get a mod here and there that you know fills the void Broly not brawly. I wouldn't know because I'm not a wheat I would never do such thing I mean, I I have a katana like We do you like but yeah, well you get it when you get a first degree black belt So that is awesome. I'm not um, I found a lot of so there's a lot of super chats that are like You know, I love you act man. And uh, will you marry me act man standard stuff? Um, I couldn't find any questions Do you want to have you got like maybe five or 10 minutes if you want to just ask chat if they want to ask Any questions quickly and maybe answer a few like quick five. Hey chat go for if you've got the chat up Do you want to pick them yourself or uh? going to read them out, um You can pick them for me. All right. Go I'll pick it out if I see one I really like There is a closet. We know I think you might be Molly Do they call you that molly? I I have seen a few animu. This is true And it's malsey. Thank you very much emulsely usually Holy beowen act man is a badass Act man thoughts on adoption.   Have you guys played those? I have not I have not Okay, um Well, I I don't want to live in the world that you're in right now. I'm sorry It's a tough one. We get by Yeah, no those ace attorney games are like some of the best Written story games I've ever played.   Not I wash it Curious about that Oh, hey, there you go act man. What what made you interested in martial arts? Wow, a real question. Would you look at that? You did it adam high five adam Uh, I actually didn't get interested in it. Uh, I was kind of a real shithead kid And so my parents were like, how do we reach these kids, you know, except it was singular with me and uh They just brought me to a martial arts dojo one day when I was in like eighth grade I had previously been like expelled from my school But I went back the next year Because my parents like were able to convince the principals and whatnot anyways So the year after I'd gotten expelled in seventh grade.  So A lot of things get me interested in martial arts Yeah, it's awesome Yeah, I I've never been interested because uh Moving and exercising those things kind of like terrifying like I just don't Risk that you have to talk to people too like go outside like these things I used to instruct kids there like kids five to like 16 We used to have uh fight instructor kelly day So kelly is my first name and I wasn't a black belt at the time So sir had to call me instructor kelly my master We'd have fight instructor kelly day where I'd put on these pads and they'd give these kids these like foam swords And they'd all just wail on me. Oh god. That was fun. Shit. Do you ever like accidentally beat the Maybe yeah, I was gonna say the silent A little bit I just one time I was showing them how to do like sidekicks And I accidentally Like hit a kid just a little bit and he started tearing up and I was like, oh god. No, there's parents here. Please don't Um parents watching the class I'm not sure how you want to respond to this because uh, how do you feel about receiving review keys for games? Um, do you mean like from like companies or like hey review my game and I'll give you this key or something I would I guess that's what they're asking Oh, like review copies. Um, you know, I got one for halo or is two back in the day And it was it was a really cool experience. You know, I really liked that game And uh, that's pretty much the only review copy. I think I've gotten of course I you know hardly check like my emails and stuff I more or less just focus on like doing content and you know stuff like this and you know interacting with fans so There's that whole like business side to like being a youtube channel and I don't necessarily like pursue that as much You guys know what I'm talking about. Yeah Kind of like want to the lack of a better team keep it real Yeah, like sponsorships. I mean, there's a you know Kudos to people that do that and can do it. Um, I would certainly love review copies and whatnot Uh, depending on what type of game or series it is, but you know, I think it's I think it's cool um I think there's something to be said about like the type of person that gets a review copy From who they're getting it from and like is like is this person going to just like say good things about this because they're getting the review copy Like I feel like that that's a separate issue. You know, mm-hmm. I cannot rise Um act man, which of your adopted children do you love the least? Oh the ugly one Good answer Um, but yeah, uh, I mean, you know, I don't want to keep you know So, uh, thank you very much and a lot There's still more questions though. I would oh, I mean if you want to if you want to go ahead and jump into any more I'm totally yeah tour The british animated netflix series called hilda.  Um I feel like they've already asked you when they asked which of your adopted children.  That's the only answer. They're really intended suicide. That's wow. That's a good one You do I take in a leap of faith there. You're like, I know act man is going to kill himself But you have a date in mind just rest of us Yeah, it's after game of thrones ends Oh, at least that's how it is for me Well, if you remember the season one where a robert brathian talks to net stark for the last time and then he says, um They get maester comes back in he goes Get me something for the pain and let me die People have been quoted that about watching game of thrones season eight Yeah, accurate side note though. I will say robert brathian was one of my favorite characters And I think he's Yeah, he's One of the best actors on that show.  So I'd say you're definitely an honorary member of the toxic brood at this Yeah, we're technically the hate mongers of the toxic brood What's that toxic brood? Sounds like a star craft thing like a band deep reference Oh I'm sorry. I'm not cultured. Oh, here's one from the salad king himself Greetings, your grace my salad king How does it feel having lived long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames? You know Oh, damn. I should compile a list. There's like paper mario banjo kazooie halo to a certain extent called a duty. Um That's the same time. It's like I've I don't think so much about like Or at least now I don't think so much about like, oh the the negative direction. It's gone and I'm more so like Cherish what I've had and what I had and nothing lasts forever sort of thing.  So play with paper play with real adult things.  Why don't you build a shelf like a real man? Yeah Rubik's cube the video game. I would play it.  I haven't done a podcast in like a year So the the thing about that. I mean not gonna Uh promote another podcast on a podcast you are welcome to if you want to Well, I haven't done we haven't done it in like a year well So there's nothing to promote but it basically the reason I stopped doing it and you know If I ever did it again, I would obviously love to have like both of you guys on but the reason I stopped doing it more or less is it Didn't really fit in with the rest of the content on my channel. I felt like and it just It would distract from other videos and I felt like the performance of those podcasts didn't do all that well It it definitely had like a lot of people really loved it Which I'm so surprised that you know, even a year later people are like, hey The podcast you did did you just forget about it asshole? It's like no, I didn't but you know, I have my reasons So maybe someday And uh, what are your thoughts on our lord and savior medea? Um, well, she's been to prison she's uh That's the only movie I can remember as any good lord and savior should have You need to know that they're fallible so that they're relatable It does All right boys. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I was gonna say if there's any more interesting questions I Running out of paper mario is for the true intellectuals The intellectual gaming community Oh, oh strategy games.  Those are like the three big ones. Oh and halo wars.  Nah, no age of empires two all the way, man No, I mean Well, because it's like I was kind of tempted to play because I heard charles dance was like voicing a little bit But then isn't it like a microsoft store exclusive or whatever? Or was that age of empires three? They don't have age of empires four out. Do they?   Maybe they're making it in progress Oh, is the what am I thinking of hey chat? What is charles dance voice? Maybe he voices a character in the witcher three. That is true That's the only game character I know of I don't know what else he's done though But all right lads Thanks for having me on I appreciate it. Check out the channel and subscribe if you want to Go for it. You can find a link in the top of the description. I believe and uh, what will you be covering next? Give them a tea. Um, I actually got uh Avengers end game video that I'm going to be uploading Today, I'm pretty sure if everything checks out, you know if monetization is all good What's uh, what's your take in in in a tease way? What are you gonna be talking about? Um It's pretty good. It's pretty good It's more so like a Overall review, you know and and like me trying something new with a movie review So I'm kind of more or less playing it a bit safe And uh because the movie's not out on like on dvd. I don't have the footage and so kind of you know got scraps to work with Which is all right, so Makes sense.  Peace man. See you around see you around buddy Yeah, we're a loser Couldn't even stay the whole seven hours. Well, I was gonna say so uh, well that was that was the intro to today's episode Um, but we will be get I'm afraid. Well, it's not just gonna be me and you I've we've got we've got fillers, you know People who are gonna I'm in here and ruin everything I see. Oh, sorry Uh, I don't do it to torture you. I just bring them in because you know Why not?  Oh, it's a j a man with an ice pack on his head. Sometimes I'm here. What's up y'all? I'm new guests What did you just say j Oh, what kind of person would invite the same people on their streams for every every stream This isn't I don't do that. You two are brand new. This is carlton. Say hello Hello carlton Jay carlton, I Didn't want to be carlton bank's and then and then carlton bank's carlton's brother joesiah Say hello. Fuck. Can I still be carlton? We're both carlton banks, and I'm wolf jones. Yes, I'm just regular mules lee Orinal um my my chat's still frozen by the way, so this is great, but uh, oh, I got the chat up They're all asking for frog old but frog old's not online. He is He's a sleeping man. He's an australian You don't know nothing about being awake at reasonable times so We can move right along to good old watch together because where's your guest regs This is the we we have him on too often. Okay that is Uh, did we have another meme video to watch we do but it's a meme video Which means everyone's got to jump into watch together Yeah, that that would be why I said a meme video that that's why I said you got to jump into watch Oh, you tizm. I'm in the wash together. You just joined it. You liar All four of us did yeah, because I just posted it I mean sometimes looking at pandas is just what needs to be done Like people say it as if it's some kind of like hateful thing to look at a panda, but you know They want to be looked at but can we discuss this for the next 10 hours? Yes All right, I have I got I got a tizm link for this Um, let me just eat fab feet pro jared next.  Have you guys heard about that? I'm guessing. Oh, yeah.  I don't know what you're talking about. Like I woke up to it.  We talked about it briefly at the beginning, but it's like, oh my god Frogled actually was the one I was discussing it with it was it was You shouldn't laugh. Hey guys, it's very serious and has a thing happened Truly serious a thing has happened. Give him give him the quick vision.  No Okay, so pro jared is a dude who makes gaming videos, I guess I haven't seen his channel But his face looks familiar. You probably know That looks like a little bit like an alien just a little bit. Yeah, just a little right um And I guess basically he Started cheating on his wife and he filed for a divorce with her on twitter by blocking her I wouldn't all I know people were saying he broke he divorced her on twitter I don't know if it's a meme or if it's like straight up like he didn't tell her And he just did it through twitter like this that was bizarre together But what I do know is that it wasn't like discussed And so she was like shocked to see that I guess and he also blocked her on twitter Well, yeah from what I understand like he he got the divorce He didn't like divorce her over twitter But like he had posted the announcement that they had divorced But his wife couldn't see the announcement because he blocked her Which is odd Yeah Yeah, especially when he says, oh, I'm all about the well-being of my wife And I love her so fucking much but like um, but you blocked her Yeah, and then she uh, she spilled some stuff onto twitter and it's caused havoc for his channel Mm-hmm. So much like 56,000 subs worth of havoc. Oh climbing Yeah, it's still going I looked at it just before we started the show and that was that was like what an hour ago Yeah, I think we're sitting on Bro Now Oh my god, it's raised by almost 20,000 in the past hour Yeah, Jesus Christ He's lost almost as many subs as monday matt has You'll comparison every time Some man's dude because this is the biggest youtube mess since monday matt At least that I know of Well, yeah, I and yeah, so among other things like dms nudes and just big Dirty laundry has all come out and it's made a lot of people not like pro gerry Steve molly He went from being a real big youtuber to uh, he ain't gonna be a big youtuber anymore But oh, I If he's got a side to the story he needs to get it out now like The first thing that comes up when you search him is uh, pro gerry is beyond saving Well the thing though the evidence stacks up like against him very badly I haven't looked into how like secure all the evidence is but like oh my god Don't do a monday matt and just not talk about it for three months and then finally go, you know That wasn't a great thing don't go on a stream and say that you were picking up boulders with your child Yeah, that's just some good advice to not do that Oh, yeah, people are also mad at peanut butter gamer for defending him. Uh, who's that he's someone who works at normal boots I believe my history with all of that is I need a historian the channel that started with jon tron Because like jon tron and then a few others were a part of the normal boots crew including peanut butter gamer and Pro jared and a couple of others not entirely sure. I haven't followed them very closely for a while, but uh, yeah Um, and Yeah, there's there's a lot of because jon tron got trending as well and apparently it's related to the fact that Like these people distanced themselves from jon tron the second the destiny debate came out Or at least the quotes from the destiny debate came out and uh now it's sort of being looked at as a um How can you like moral Iroids jon tron when you're doing stuff like that. I think is the narrative right now again Look into this stuff for yourselves.  Anyway, is everyone ready for a meme video? indeed Fresh off the presses it was linked in the discord and I think on my twitter Feel bad because it's unlisted. I hope this guy's okay with this showing it But anyway, yes Obviously gonna have to do some pausing but this is the new episode of game of thrones Uh game of thrones is a very good show and everyone should watch it, right? Well No, all right. No, not at all tlj Since we know what happens and this is like, oh Do you do you know where this is going jay? I have no idea. All right.  Absolutely. This is poetic.  Um, I don't remember that So the channel is All but oh you mean for the episode or yeah, where was that quote from? Uh, that's probably maybe that's one from one of rags. It's kind of sucks I'll have to show him this video when he's on monday just so he can tell me where that's from Um But yeah, uh He should take this off of unlisted. That's beautiful Yeah, that was all the dark link. Um, but yes, I The description is at least one good thing about the doucey Oh, I love it. I haven't seen any of these episodes. So that was a that was pleasant I forgot there was a meme to show that was This is the thing. I actually I lost Is a picture there's just one I missed you're gonna love this one.  This is a weird because we did like conversation then memes and now we're actually going into the main event here Um, we're revisiting tonal cloak once again Now we have a choice of two videos We're probably gonna get through both of them considering I'm two hours into this e-fab yet Um, but I'll let the the the guests vote on which one they'd like to see first So is hate culture a problem in the game industry? or The truth behind the next video game crash Oh gotta be the first one And jay, I agree. Yeah, I agree All right hate culture it is so this I believe the context Well, because me and wolf wanted to cover this a long time ago Wasn't it to do with the fact that he got like a really bad backlash to reviewing battlefield 5 positively? I think it was well. He's got really bad backlash from a lot of things So it could be like it could be multiple different videos. I wonder if he references the toxic brood Hey, what's going on? Um, yeah, I think I think he provides some context. So let's just enjoy the musings of one tonaled house. Locue Hey, what's going on guys? I didn't want to talk about a very important issue I guess not just in the gaming industry, but I know he's Is I didn't want to make this video sigh Do you capitalize the v? It's got like the same tone doesn't capitalize his name. Why would he capitalize the v? It's like this video so far has got like the same tone as those charity adverts about the dying children Oh god. No, it's like the the pet adverts with the in the arms Uh Great game choice tonal. This is uh, what is this? This is a shadow of the tomb raider. It's really bad. Oh for some reason. I thought it was anthem No, I guess not just in the gaming industry that's coming from me and I like the first two tomb raider reboots I didn't like this game at all. Oh, this what was it? What was it called? Shadow of the everyone's demanding half speed fine fine Rags seem to be the one that couldn't handle half speed totals Hey, what's going on? A very important issue I guess not dude. He's jared now industry, but pretty much anymore you look This is just totaled in hands someone said slow and old less Dude, I'm pictured like slow poke with totals face I I feel like that would be like uh, tonal but with his eyes looking in different directions Anyways guys here it comes you wait But pretty much anymore you look on the internet YouTube reddits are any of the sources of I love the the slow down music The communication between people Wait, did he just establish the reddit youtube and whatever else are places in which people can communicate That was the qualifier for them just to clarify internet YouTube reddits are any of the sources of communication between people Any other sources of communication between people? Yes in the world while this is an issue that I definitely have to deal with Quite frequently on my channel. It's also an issue that's many other people Have to deal with too and that is the issue of people hating on people critiquing games negatively I guess you can call it hating on the hate He said hate on the hate Well, I think this is a fair topic to go We've all heard thunder, right? I've never experienced hate. Everyone loves my work We've all said bad things about things and got Bad things said to us because of it What about I heard I heard thunder so if you hear thunder, that's me Oh Don't die. Okay. No, I'm on battery backup. I'm good You can tell it's bad because of the fire Oh, yeah, that was gonna say that does I like the thematic element of destruction fire burning I guess you can call it hating on the hate even though that the hate's in the first place may be Some valid criticism What about if the hate of the hate is valid criticism? I think that as the internet has grown and people are becoming more accustomed to being able to speak out on social media platforms and youtube comment sections across the globe It allows more conversations to be had but sometimes those conversations are not particularly good particularly good What i'm referring to specifically and I guess i'll stay on the course of the video game industry is on the cost Anyone else catch that? I'm confused now I think he wanted to say he wants to stay on course with the video, but he said cost I'm crazy particularly good What i'm referring to specifically and I guess i'll stay on the course of the video game Stay on the course tea and course to buddy There's no what is cost like I'll stay on the course Even i'm pretty sure he's trying to stay on course, but i'll let it go. Yeah, this is a very important emotional video Okay, this is just one take Yeah Industry is a person out there creating some sort of piece of content that is negatively critiquing Said game and this could be a youtube video. It could be a simple comment It could be a post on reddit. It could be a post on twitter anything like that. For example person a critiques negatively Like okay, we know what this means, dude No, he needs to explain this you understand. He's talking about very specific. It's gotta be 10 minutes Look, he's only made it like 38 seconds over the 10 minute mark. I wonder how much of that is outro. That'll be interesting Oh boy Name a but then all of a sudden person b comes around and starts calling person a names such as you're a hater You have no idea what you're talking about names You guys know the story.  Uh, you can't prove that with tonal Blessings, okay, you have to do All of a sudden i need to get the blessing of tonal to know if you're really a hater I thought you had the blessing of tonal. I was about to say don't we all Under the teachings of tonal we can't really be blessed by tonald until he comes on the show But that'll that's that's the last episode of e-fab Again if you get tonald on the show in the three weeks that i'm gone i will hate you forever He's like i wanted to come on once that awful man wolf was not here because he was very rude to me I Love you tol. I can see wolf crying. Listings that pocket My lord like genuinely it's like got him on when i wasn't there And b comes around and starts calling person a names such as you're a hater You have no idea what you're talking about you guys know how is you have no idea what you're talking about a name? That sounds like a valid criticism Like you're right. I have no idea what you're talking about The story quickly these conversations turned into bickering wars which then turn into name-calling Bad mouthing and sometimes racism or prejudice gets thrown in the mix as well And it's just not a fun situation for anyone the fucking frame is frozen for me, but the The audio still is playing so I'm seeing it fine weird for me And it's all because person a said something about game a that person Also the point of using examples is so that you don't have to say stuff like person a in game a and like An example. This is like a hypothetical. It's not an example No, I it's not like breaking it down so crazy like we understand the point, right? It's like person said a mean thing to you when you did something that was justifiably valid I mean you could literally get over what he said so for and and yeah like a few seconds like you just did Mm-hmm. There's a mean online. Stop it. Stop being the mean Yes Be compiling on person a and it just turns into a flame wars and it gets out of control really quickly. Hang on Compiling on person a is that actually how you're supposed to use that word? Compiling wait. Is that what he said read listen to again defense too Unfortunately, what happens next is that's more people with the same mentality of person b compiling on person Compiling on okay. Thank god And I'm turning into a flame wars and it gets out of control really quickly It's honestly something that I'm gonna compile on you guys some flame wars Like you know club penguin days.  You don't know what you're talking about. Okay? Don't be that This makes me sick and fills me with disgust when I see name calling bad language hurtful things being thrown around When you see bad language Oh my god, we're still stretching boys. I need all of that. I have to listen to get in slow boat Do it Do it You need to Donals It just turns into a flame wars and it gets out of control really quickly It's honestly something that makes me sick And fills me with disgust when I see name calling Bad language hurtful things being thrown around Just because someone said something bad about a game that person b Did not agree with You know what guys i'm gonna break down why it disgusts me. It's like please stop Couldn't have made more spelling errors trying to get that out quickly. I think I did it though It's honestly something that makes me sick and fills me with disgust when I see name calling bad language Hurtful things being thrown. What do you say and hurtful thing? What are you doing? Tony? tonal whoa You just doxed him. Yeah god What you guys don't think this true name is tonald No, no, his true name is obviously tone.  You should be respectful to one another as all humans should be Also, i'm pretty sure he's using a song he used in uh gadelp 2 really Yeah Beautiful. I think it was like the one you used toward the end The let's play in normal speed second I really like that he I really like the idea that he saw gadelp 2 and that was his takeaway like oh, these are some good songs I could use these in my videos It like leaves a comment good message by the way. I really enjoyed the breakdown Be because it's destructive Towards the critique of said game and the development of like games in the future in that genre and that game type Let's think about this for a second Oh my god, can we not let's think He didn't capitalize the hell like why not? I just I like that as a title thing. It's like my favorite trope of video essayist Let's put a word on the screen that I said all words to you If person ace critique was negative, but it was valid What could developers learn from valid? Valid Valid I think that needs a slow mo Stop calling you valid. Let's think about this for a second. If person ace critique was negative, but it was valid Whoa, what could developers learn from that? Well, they could learn a lot The only Great awesome What could they learn from that they could learn a lot Sloan old is definitely That's a bilbo bag is quote right there. What could they learn from that? Well, they could learn a lot Therefore tonal to is Loan old Get better in this industry is by accepting the critique It's priceless Sloan old pauses a double the length I need more of this Way games get better in this industry is by accepting the critique And sometimes it is valid even though it's negative didn't you say this like It's valid and it's valid Come on totals get to the next point. Yes, I'm on screen I understand that many people uh, sometimes bad things are true Now I forget is this the guy who uploads every day or is that downward thrust? This is down with them. They're the same thing. Oh, they are the same thing. You know what? Okay I'm sorry my lord. I'm very sorry my lord. You now you have blaspheme. Oh my god. I'm so sorry Someone said Sloan old poke They don't like to hear bad things talked about the games that they play But To accept their critique To make those games better Right, right Yes, you know, he's on point here. You need to accept criticism tonal fan art on twitter Oh Sloan old versus tonal who wins? Oh, this this I'm gonna have to collect all these up. Okay.  It's gonna happen someone's doing it right now somebody just opened photoshop They probably had photoshop open waiting for this moment just waiting exactly I'm so gonna draw spider draw in the declaration of independence One needs that to happen. Oh man.  I've got a show They're fast. So we'll drew up a slow poke total Yes I kind of I kind of want to put that on screen now just Let's just do it. Please do it. It's quick, but it's fun I Just picture this dude with a microphone in front of In my opinion We will get to oh, there's another one guys use valid attack Okay, we uh between the this video and the next one we'll totally have a meme break it Yeah, tonal use artificial barriers of blocking You don't know what you're talking about Don't respect each other Solonal discharging game bad words disgust me Don't be mean that's gonna be a valid right So going on the hate train bandwagon and attacking people who were simply critiquing a game negatively even though those opinions could be valid Is not good for anybody I thought he said this already like I love This is not good for anybody Don't it's like he's drunk I feel like and two years down the line, we're just gonna get a tonal video called it's bad to be mean what's cool is being nice It's like a musical and he just sings throughout the whole thing And then we could just slow it down How many long pregnant causes do you think would be in a song from tonal lv? 2089 said mola nex cadel needs to be at half speed at some point.    Oh god. Yeah, I feel like I just said I don't I don't know what the room is. Jesus christ I'm so sorry and then I and then earlier I said I didn't I'm my god.  It just makes them different Often the video that it sounds like a teacher like in first grade trying to explain why you shouldn't be mean to the other kids Because it makes them Stroud Your differences make you unique And we wouldn't want that Really insightful Makes them different Often the video that is negatively critiquing a game is just because the person wants to get it off his chest Because he has his own feelings too And he's got his own opinions This is literally the video leave me alone Oh, no, no beowen's mad at me.  I'm sorry Medea was it was the the the jeff in geeks and gamers episode, right? That's all you need to watch. I don't remember when we first made the medea memes Are you just look up tyler parry? You know who tyler parry is? Yeah, he is medea. Oh Huh I swear I was there for the origin of that meme Perhaps I don't remember the origin of the medea meme We need an efap scholar to be able to efap taught me Insin he wants to share that with the world The videos that do it, right aren't trying to personally attack anyone They're just trying to express the way they feel about the game But unfortunately a lot of people out there take it personally and this is where the problem really lies I thought we already established He's right. He is right. No one can take this away from him It is a problem when haters hate Otherwise we'll be here forever. We're turning it into a 20 minute video question as an attack On themselves personally, which sparks negative conversations and comment sections across the world And as soon as the first individual takes it too personally, he could spiral out of control I'm sorry. Did you just say the exact same thing three times? Yeah I'm going back because i'm pretty sure he's just said everything Again again and again as soon as the street fighter stuff comes up He wants to share that with the world the videos that do it, right aren't trying to personally attack anyone They're just trying to express the way they feel about the game But unfortunately a lot of people out there take it personally and this is where the problem really lies They take it personally and that's where the problem lies. Okay They see any bad mouth thing about the game in question as an attack On themselves personally which sparks negative conversations and comment sections across They take it personally and it spawns negative conversations Okay, yeah, it's kind of the same thing That's the world and as soon as the first individual takes it too personally He could spiral out of control and people start attacking each other And so people can take it personally and they spiral out of control. Yeah I'm I'm cat Literally, this is how to extend your video and you just not saying anything Just keep saying the same thing and slightly different. Oh, should we go at times two speed? Oh boy. Make up for it. Would this be speedaled? Myselfs personally which sparks negative conversations and comment sections across the world and as soon as the first individual takes it too personally I control and people start attacking each other It's just not fun for either side because all that happens is that we bicker until we get bored and tired of it And then we just ignore it no constructive conversation usually happens It's because people have a problem listening in this world listening is an acquired skill that takes a lot of practice and time Okay, let's let's recap Listening is in a school is an acquired skill That takes practice over time You need to practice how to listen So called the sending you're not listening right Someone said gotta talk fast Hey That's amazing. I just want to hear that again That's all that happens is that we bicker until we get bored and tired of it and then we just ignore it no constructive conversation Usually happens it's because people have a problem listening in this world listening as an acquired Skill that takes a lot of practice and time.  Oh wow Am you Okay fine tunneled you in no more speedaled If assuming that's the problem In the first place I find Wait someone else pause Huh The world is happening And shove opinions down people's throats regardless if they are listening to the other person in the first place. Hello I find this development of people Was my microphone not working though Uh, people said that you were going to get pizza. So yeah, you had a lot. You must have a lot I hang on. Have I how long have I not said anything for?  I'm just gonna push it back in and uh I mean just just before I just before I push it back in people going who paused and I've been talking.  I can't remember what it was anymore. It's because people have a problem listening in this world Listening is an acquired skill that takes a lot of practice and time And most people would rather talk talk talk and shove opinions down people's throats regardless if they are listening to the other person He said talk talk talk. It's narrative trip I want to make sure you guys saw that was very skilled and talented person in the first place I find this development of people attacking individual I mean, it's not wrong. These people definitely exist. Does that sound from his video or one of you guys? I think that was his that was the sound his title card made Yeah, I just want to hear that they are listening to the other person in the first place I find this development of people Oh, it's supposed to be like a flickering like me It kind of sounds weird doesn't it's got like a very stereo vibe to it. It kind of sounds like it kind of sounds like someone's Stepping on an egg from the other side of the Yeah Sounds creepy People attacking people for disliking a game they like That is yeah Wasn't okay.  Let's find out Well, this is that's what this video is is hating on hate on hate Well, he hasn't said any bad words That is true for hating a particular game in question Really interesting because if you flip the script and you look at the other side of the coin It usually doesn't if you flip the script and look at the other side of the coin Hey, the script was written in really tiny font on the Like the heads side of the quarter You needed a third one in there. What's the third one of that? Look at the other side You flip the script and look at the other side of the coin. How do you naturally fit in a third version of that in that sentence? flip the coin other side of the because this Turn turn the other cheek flip the Yeah, turn the other cheek is one, isn't it? I thought that meant like ignoring stuff Sure, someone in the chat on the other hand Oh, so if you flip the script if you flip the script Wait, should I say on the no way because if you said on the other hand if you flip the script that That is stupid, right? We're trying to make a stupid sentence here shoe on the other foot On the other hand Oh, yeah, we can definitely use that so on the other hand if you In the tables was it? Yeah, turn the table tables and flip the script Um To look at the other side of the coin there you go. We've done it On the other hand if you turn the tables and flip the script to look at the other side of the coin There we go tunneled we've improved your work And happened in the same degree for instance instead of making a video hating on a game person a made a video praising a game Of course, there would still be people saying you're a fan boy.  I think it would be even funnier just given how casual he's Yeah, he's no swoop On the other hand, oh, I'm so tempted to put that into gadelb 3 Oh see because gadelb is like Totally youtube friendly and I feel like I'm not allowed to use that word anymore because you can risk like getting banned Like on a like on a main video, but I mean it would be so funny though if the gadelb went through the video I could use massive, but I don't think it would be as impactful the the funny part is the impact No Just put it like way into the video so that you have to actually watch a lot of it to get there I'll put massive in the notes, but I will I will um Maybe I'll record both of them and test them when I get around to fucking april of next year Which is a little age of the way you excited for that desk bullshit Oh, yeah It's gadelb number three. It's gonna be best together Coming to you in 11 months.  Whatever I want to hear that slow I just like Oh, wow, this guy just likes this game Whatever And that is because saying something good about a product that someone does not like Is a lot less provoking Then it's a lot less provoking. I really thought he was gonna go into why I'm like no He's just saying that it annoys people more because he doesn't know why he's just like, okay He's just saying the thing that it is total just kind of forgot about the iron fleet.  Oh Wait, did he It sounded like he said massively. I know that's probably not what he said, but see Of the reaction of those people And because a lot of people out there act so defensively Really quickly It can escalate. I would have it would have been amazing if he accidentally just said because they act massively That's how we would know that he's actually watching our show and that he's doing this just for us And what this does is make people cautious Does about what they critique and what they do not critique especially on youtube and I think that's quite dangerous Go to thin skin. Yeah Yes, his point here is that if you be hating then people won't be as honest anymore Don't be hating You guys just can't take good advice when you see that's all this is I mean It's it sucks to say it but be having people call you names because you say bad about a thing They're like as part of the job Like what if they do it too many's? then It's like I mean that It's fine. You can think that's bad because it isn't a great. It isn't a great thing But it's still like That he spends he spent five minutes saying that now Well, what do you think the last five minutes will be? Because critique is really important for the development of our games The second someone thinks twice about putting out their arguments even though it might be valid Is the second that that criticism doesn't get heard by publishers all because person No, it's not So so I I think this game is bad because all of the enemies are bullet sponges someone else goes you're a cunt and then the developers go I'm not gonna listen to him.  We can't possibly trust him It's not Wikipedia that it says this charlie.  We had to talk about that again Didn't like destiny too because the end game just wasn't there But hey person b Wanted to attack that person because destiny too was his favorite game Even though he knows the end game is lacking just because that person said one thing bad about his favorite game It's time to why don't I just watch Not cool whatsoever.   This is assassin's creed origin Above the haters He just wants to vacuum up all the haters. Yep It's metaphorical for this video being a bad person in general for attacking someone Rag wrap so neatly around him. He was also sorting the potential It's a plot for that criticism to be heard and these conversations extend far beyond destiny too to any game You can possibly think of I've seen conversations about grand theft out of five Okay, so he's like Any game you could possibly think of I've seen them The gta five like whoa gta foe. Whoa like when you said any game. I didn't think you meant that one The best selling game of all time. That's he was using well. Yes. You gotta remember he made of videos Did it fail?  That was three. That was two old games mass effect andromeda gta five and overwatch Hang on. What was there's a way that he's delivered that though? Like yeah, there is a weird delivered to it This applies to all games like this one this one and this one like all of them Yeah, I think he gaps between two of them. Hang on. I gotta nail this like grand theft auto five Really doesn't belong with the other two even overwatch doesn't belong with mass effect andromeda Any game you can possibly think of I've seen conversations about grand theft auto five mass effect andromeda you name it overwatch You can't get away from this You name it overwatch It's like he heard himself saying you name it and he was like, oh, I'm supposed to name something Thank you for he forgot that he was the person making the video This will be the line and gdell this applies to all games any games you can possibly think of gta five mass effect andromeda you name it overwatch They were supposed to name it shit Yeah, well one take God it's like this is what I mean about like I couldn't have written that. Thank you total. It's so good Someone said he pronounces mass effect like a massive fact. I know that's what I was about to say We rewind it. I I would hear that drameda you name it I've seen conversations about grand theft auto five mass effect andromeda you name it overwatch How does he write I love this. There's a cap as well. You name it overwatch It's so awkward. I love it You can't get away from this kind of activity perfectly valid complaints from person a Get shot down by person b because they get defensive. How many times have you said this this is like the seventh type And I asked the people who do this. What do you possibly have to gain? I ask the people who do this. What do you possibly have to gain? You kidding me From trying to engage in these kinds of conversations, you're not gaining anything. It doesn't matter if someone doesn't like my opinion You like everyone has a different opinion. Everyone's not gonna like the game. You're gonna like because of that This is shadow of the tomb raider meaning he made this video like not even six months ago Is hate culture a problem in the games industry?  I think I don't think it's hate culture. That's a problem.  Is that what he just said? Unfortunately, just let people enjoy what they like. His people are just trolls and they are boys. Sorry. I mean No, he found that funny. Yeah Lacking me again I would encourage you instead to use your time and energy which is not infinite by the way to just go out And enjoy the things you like in life. What if the thing I like in life is telling people that they're massives.  That is what you And you discuss me are completely bored with their mainstream lives and they just want something to Do a tonal Can we listen to that we listen to that in super slow mo? You gotta rewind. Yep. Like it keeps like buffering for me. Okay, that should work To just go out and enjoy the things you like in life Of course, though many of these conversations and flame wars happen because people are just trolls And they are completely bored with their mainstream lives and they What i'm referring to is the people who are legitimately upset and once would attack people for hating We know that's what you're talking about So is that like i'm not even trying to be hyperbolic. Is that eight now that he's made a statement that is either that one for one or close to I think it must be at least you could super cut this video anyone could just the amount of fucking times He's either said or shown on screen the process of a person being mean to another person being mean to a game I just love how he was like mainstream lives Like he just started laughing halfway through it You're gonna have to put that in you know, someone brings up a good question in the chat.  I want to see detective pikachu.  That was just an example I I don't like it change it You haven't seen it yet. I know don't talk. Don't knock it till you've tried it. What are you in a mainstream life right now? I mean that board What would we do with that and that is a totaled I mean we don't we wouldn't have this podcast without tonal Yeah, that's the the first video covered. I believe or at least I can't remember if it was that we we did cover him for a second Then we went straight to jarred and then we came back to tonals, but tonal did definitely inspire the uh It was totaled and jarred that made this podcast the yin and the yang The the lord the yang unfortunately went crazy and had to be just shut down. So now we just have the yin and You're a placement Completely different story, you know, um without turning this into a dr. Phil. I'm 33 Oh, I didn't know that I didn't either. I thought he was like in his mid to late 20s Is it is it commonly accepted to refer to like I don't want to turn this into a dr. Phil rather than a dr. Phil episode or whatever I don't want to turn this into a dr. Phil. That's what I mean. That's what that struck me as odd But I don't know if that's how you guys say that in america Okay You know, um without turning this into a dr. Phil I'm 33 years old and I've learned a few things in life. Number one is to Be nice to the people who are only a few though be true to yourself You gotta be a good soul in life Except the fact that people out there are different from you that doesn't make them good and it does not make them bad It just makes them different like I said earlier People going out of their way to bad mouth people for saying bad stuff about games are no way you said it again I would count the last thing as I'm saying it again. Just like I've learned not to say bad All right, because people are different. I'm not even kidding Anybody out there wants to super cut it.  Well, it's a day you guys be good. Don't be bad Bad is bad good is better We're doing more harm than good and they don't even know it Not only are you cheapening yourself out on the most fundamentally vital and important thing about life Which is being a good person to those around you You're also creating an environment that scares off people from making valid critique about games that may need to improve in the first Place with that said though Not every critique of a game and not every video out there hating on a game is done right And I will definitely agree with you with that many of these videos out All right, that that's the he's progressing the argument Everyone has everyone has their opinion and that's fine But some games may need improvement because of these true critiques He spent eight minutes telling us that you should stop hating on people who are hating on a game because they got valid criticisms And he finally said Sometimes they don't though You're like, oh Okay, no totals may be 33, but he's got the mind of a five-year-old that is true Out there just want to get some clicks. They want to hate just because it's the popular thing to do You can often pick these videos out because I'm sort of pointed I know he's you can tell it's just the popular thing to do e-fap They just badmouth the game without saying anything good about it They literally make fun of the game in question, which is not the way you're supposed to do it What if the game is terrible like right then how rich should be? I'll make fun of the game. What you're not supposed to make fun of games. That's what the rules say That's the rule book of the critic. Yeah, it's the rules from uh, fairly odd parents Yeah, just on the first pages. You are not allowed to make fun of games You're supposed to say The declaration that you're allowed to like the last Jedi That's the second amendment. You're not make fun of that You know the line which says, you know the love the protect the things you love and don't make fun Just critique it. Don't make fun of it Don't have obi-wan turning off the movie. Okay. That's a that's a mean joke. You're supposed to take it seriously in These critics these days, man No, I find a lot of it They literally make fun of the game in question, which is not the way you're supposed to do it You're supposed to say what's wrong with the game and then offer a solution Why why can't we make fun of it though? Why can't we make fun of something that's terrible tonal?  Are you just hating on someone by hating? Uh, he said a bad word he said suck. Oh boy He needs to be put down. You know, he's mad now Not acceptable do it right and offer negative criticism in the proper light Should not be attacked by people on here never existed Then we would have had like so much We would have had to find so many different people to Watch this is the thing.  Is that just point was it? I'm not the whole thing.  That seems you shouldn't you should critique them Yeah, you should say what's wrong first. Yeah, you're you sound very bullying tonal I'm disappointed you in lord. Lord tonal. This is not a good Good Then a good example Don't stray tonald Who decides the difference between making fun of something and providing critique? Yes, like if you say only a total deals in absolutes Tonya sloan old would do that totals a different man so if you say like oh the hitboxes are Are not accurate to the models and then you say it would be better if they were that's fine But you say oh the hitboxes aren't accurate to the models.  You're making fun of the game Mr. Gently benevolent said total doesn't want to get too big more. He wants to keep it real to the mainstream life Total deletes his channel whenever he hits 1 million subscribers. He can't take it. He's he's about the little guy Okay, he doesn't want to get involved in the big stuff Is him in the proper light Should not be attacked by people on the internet If you don't like what those videos are saying then simply download the video and comment down below Wow, if you don't like it downvote it. Okay, that's worse. That sounds like a call to action to me Tonald what are you doing man calling calling to violence almost Tonald has definitely evolved as a critic Yes, if you don't like what those videos are saying then simply download the video and comment down below Respectfully to encourage some constructive critique. I would encourage you guys It's like this is an instruction for all the people that don't like him. Well if the fire's back help You're fired for a culture of hating people for saying negative stuff about video games critique comes in all flavor He's like why was the fire there that he went right back? I thought I was waiting for like a subtitle. He just put fire there and went back He Dude alia alia when he said Earlier when he said any games you can possibly think of gc5 sx drama you name it overwatch This is the visual editing vision of that.  Oh, yes. I'm putting a note for Maybe that was uh someone said maybe that's um a visual representation of the flame wars I still can't believe he says that I don't get why he seems to like flame wars. Jesus christ I don't get why he seems to like think it's specific to video game criticism Because that's how he phrased it the whole time as if like it doesn't think this issue has any more scope than I mean, that's the thing. It's like total. This is just people being dicks.  No people. I just mean sometimes totaled Both the video and comment down below respectfully to encourage some constructive critique I would encourage you guys not to be a part of this growing and weird culture of hating Critique comes in all flavors and just because it's bad doesn't mean it's bad Wait, what? Wait, what? I know what he means. I know. I know what he means, but why did he phrase it that way? Could you could you play it at point five? I can't Yeah This growing and weird culture of hating people for saying negative stuff about video games Critique comes in all flavors And just because it's bad Doesn't mean it's bad And sometimes it's incredibly vital to the lessons See like I'm gonna put that in my video Someone's gonna be like no one's stupid enough to say that it's like no they are no You haven't been watching Why did he phrase it that way You're amazing total comes in all flavors And just because it's bad doesn't mean it's bad Sometimes it's incredibly vital. What's the full quote with that like old games are not new games This man is a treasure We told act man that quote the other day and there was like a couple seconds of silence and then it was like Hey Praise loke To the lessons learned never need to grow this industry to a better place We need to grow this industry to a better place What and only you tonald can make it happen never stop my friend only you can stop tonald fires Like a certain points because I'm writing so much of his script into a notepad. It's like I may as well just take the whole thing May as well just like copy the script for this entire video and that's your gadelp Upload this for gadelp people like you went too far with this one. Well, this one just doesn't make sense So I think I kind of got my point across and I think Ended there if you guys enjoyed this style of video, which is definitely not my normal style of video It's kind of more of a general commentary style video.  This has a thousand likes and 500 dislikes. That's not great Oh, ow, I didn't even notice that what the top comment is. Oh the irony The one underneath that is press x to doubt title So basically downward thrust is person c and person a at the same time mind blown If you didn't like this video downvote him respectfully We all know that this video is talking about the backlash you and clean prince gaming are getting by every video The problem is not the critique itself tone Total The main problem is spreading misinformation and talking about speculations as fact is at least you had the courage to address your mistakes regarding games like warframe On the other side your fellow youtuber clean prince gaming still spreads information in his videos And let's take this video about spider-man downgrade as an take his video about the spider-man downgrade as an example Oh, this guy gets it. You said you did us at the same thing nine times Someone make that super good Just want to make sure you guys like them as well As always i'm trying to diversify my content and see what works and what doesn't Generally speaking i do discussion style videos on this channel regarding hang on hang on hang on This comment literally says look at that like to dislike ratio.  He tells you to dislike it. Yeah, he tells the orders. He gave us. We what can we do lord total Disagree dislike One of the most amazing I'm sorry Some it's it's an amazing skill to like have to to take the message Don't be mean be nice and turn it into something that's wrong Like he's literally like it's not a hate it's not a it's not hate culture in the games industry. This isn't no stop it It's literally just people are dicks sometimes also sometimes you have bad takes How dare you listen to the video the news thing recently too So let me know once again what you guys would prefer me to focus on so I can steer my content in the right direction He tries to do new content too I think he talks about trump in the white house and all that I think he's keen. I hope so is i'm gonna make the content that I want to make Regardless, so I hope you guys enjoy some of it. You're probably not gonna like all of it But I appreciate you guys for sticking around and continuing to support this channel because I've got some really cool stuff planned in the future You guys have a fantastic day and as I say always peace, love and happiness until our next video. Take care Does he always say that? Yes, actually, it's really sufferable In a good way. Um, I'm going to okay. So this is the newest video from tonald Uh It's called dragon age full problem that many are concerned with. Uh, just sort comments by new find mine and upload it. Okay Gotta Gotta bring no, I don't care about that. I just The message itself Praise tonald Leave the toxic rude to glory Wait, which um, which video? Oh, I'll put in the discord chat Um, you know be nothing but nice to this man. We need more of his videos To teach us more lessons. Okay comments on the one that you put in the chat because I can't see a comment from you on this Uh, so by newest does it not come up? Oh, so by now. Okay. Uh, I see it. All right. It should it should show Praise total leave the toxic rude to glory I want to see a tonal top comment with that has nothing to do with us. Like it matters just to take off I want him to start calling himself Like unironically Like can you imagine how awesome it would be if you could type in tonald into the youtube search engine and it would come up with him Like I do that like after every single show we cover him up Hoping hoping for the day that it happens or it becomes like the first search results that comes in suggested on google when you start typing and oh my god Let me look up google. I'm gonna type in tonald loak Oh no, it just comes up with ron lock Oh, no, you have to you have to search instead for because it thinks you're typing in ronald Oh, wait, wait. I just need to put quotations around it. Then it only looks up that No, no, that didn't work What about I'm feeling lucky tonal I'm feeling lucky Which channel is tonal look it's on reddit What? What? Yeah, it's on rmaller Oh, that makes sense So many tonal memes on twitter I got a collectible I wonder if it works on lgoog tonald loak Oh No, it doesn't do much of anything now does it We'll get there one day guys. Honald will embrace the brood He will become one with the toxic brood What would what would we talk about with him? Just just get him to say words. Yeah, I literally I would love to interview him I'll be like so tonal.   I mean you got you got to remember this is This is scripted. Yes I wonder what he's like unscripted Is he got any unscripted content if he's unscripted he speaks like slonal regularly Time to run through some memes we go Alrighty I believe this is hot off the press is the Valid Captain Val Valid Other um, I get this is slow Slow poke and slow king, right? I is that my pokemon is my pokemon, right?  Well I mean wolf you could feel that I don't know I don't know Oh, that's just why are his eyes? Oh, oh, right because I told that I said slow is like what his eyes looking at different directions So we got a bear in one two damn it. I gotta get it.   He was just gonna get me like who was that dude? I don't know That's the ongoing question team of tones It's like the photoshop's terrible if I still love it I love how the hair just looks like a horrible way Finding nino The artificial barriers of blocking Uh, I I love how rag is is just above the m It's just a random little thing As soon as I saw the art I just my brain filled in the exact quote with the accent from the dude Looked the script looked at the other side of the coin But people have been busy while we've been doing this. Oh, yes all sorts of memes It's perfect the same one bit different I love it still You know It's like a different tonal face Where do they find these? Yeah, that one's really clear. Yeah, this one was what I was like staring at on twitter for a while. I was like, what is what? This is wonderful What it's happening here Stainless steel wet rag is water Things I think the whole is it like a whole study of what makes oh my god I don't remember exactly where this is from, but I remembered stainless steel thing It's I'm trying to figure out if water is wet. I think that's the point.  I think in the background And That you've got solid gas in the back liquid that a question mark for the fourth state And then there's rhino milk or is that it looks like a butterfly drawn on there Butterfly milk in that case, I guess butterfly milk Yeah, we've had that meme. Is it ice? I guess it's ice. They're looking at All right Where did they get the Oh, yeah, this is like a god imagine the untapped amount of videos with tonal faces that we haven't seen Yeah, these guys have found so many more. Oh my god All dialogue from vamp blade season three episode 12. Oh god. I need to like zoom this one in open link the last What is that jedi totally sucks? the hell you say Like all the old I know I I know I just if there's one thing I could tell you about the future Don't waste your time being excited about that. Oh, I remember this I mean if ryan johnson is the one directing it here. Yeah. Well, then you're fucked I've been wrong about a lot of things here. I've tried to help you You've what is that you've been through enough.  It looks like it's part of the comic like Very much a true. So uh, this one the guy said if I relaxed I don't I don't get it That this is an early concept sketch of wall's character for a short film. I'm in the process of making I should have rags and you done any questions about it. Please ask um Short film like what format And shall the main villain be tonal Or will he be god? No, he's god because he was birthed from the cosmic chicken No, no, no, no, no, you're getting the lore In the beginning, excuse you was the cosmic chicken fred. He birthed the cosmic egg Which birthed tonal who created the universe in all of The adding all men are endowed by their creator with the Unalienable right to like the last Jedi yet. No man is permitted to make Making a list here and then I have a brand new beowyn piece. Oh boy. I can't wait You could learn a lot from the things you learn just because it's bad doesn't mean it's bad Okay All right, you know what hang on you no wolf. No, it's my turn. No. Oh, you're gonna do it.  Yes. Uh, so he made a video where he was predicting Something for episode nine or what's gonna happen with it? I guess and so someone's like superimposed Faces from e-fap on top of his disruption now. The only thing about this video is I don't know if this counts is like copyright or not Is this yatsi? I don't know if I have to do a lot of pausing Uh Honestly, I have no idea because I would have thought he's been around for like a decade Like totally he has like protections on his work by now But I guess we'll just have to treat it as like a um A movie one That's all now for an industry that never learns an official guide to special moments in filmmaking history Hey, don't tell me that those dastardly unpleasable fanboys who ruin Diablo Immortals big day in the spotlight have struck again How dare those horrible nerds make such spoiled entitles I feel like it's gonna ruin it because I have to keep pausing it and he's like he talks really fast We're gonna damage the jokes, but yeah Make such spoiled entitled demands for reasonably priced franchise installments targeted at the people who made that franchise popular in the first place I want you to honor this. Hey, there's no you in honor in this So that means this is an american honor and I hate that. I love your picture right now I It's just bullying really isn't it if only these dissatisfied consumers with very little action I'm drunk lost and forgot what we're protesting about Rewinding things for look. It's the whole cat. I've got gray sheep in Yeah All power and influence would stop bullying the poor innocent massively wealthy corporations and leave them in peace to hack out Inferior garbage designed to siphon money I Floyd what positive emotions remain unstrangled out of existence. Yeah, push that narrative disney real work for the ghostbusters reboot Desire is irrelevant Massive long man bad allows people to like the last Jedi that is the most important accolade A kind god Doesn't make fun of games to that English teacher good doggo bark diverse Turn to page egg Obviously the environment down here is all salty. The sea salt, the forest salt, the walls are forced to understand To an extent the air is salt And you breathe that in and you can constantly taste the salt Yeah, and that that leads us right into the finale video the truth behind the next video game crash The truth the truth and as far as I'm aware I will look out for it, but I'm pretty sure he stole something from a hoy in this video Oh That'll be interesting. That'll be funny.  It's pretty good stuff I feel like awkward. I'm like, should I promote him? And I'm like, why he's like got a billion subscribers? Anyway, let us uh See about this The thumbnail is is gaming about to crash this in red Is he no way is he using that? That graph that he always uses to know actually I haven't seen that lately Is he does he save it for did it fail alone or is he I think he's yeah I think that's mostly what it is That's um, how I found his channel by the way I Unironically looked at the thumbnail and thought oh, that's did that really happen? Like was it that bad that it actually like got negative sales? I was like, let's check it out I'm just glad that like we met each other and not only Been to be old school drunken peasants fans, but we also happened to both hate total Hate him. I'm afraid well We used to but then we we listened to him more and now we can just Now we know we've heard the word of tonald and we've been exposed to the truth He's a great youtuber. Also by negative sales. I'm almost referring to like what happened with the no man's skyway Like there was like mass refunds um And I was assuming that that's what the deal was but yeah, he just uses that in some nail because he's uh, He's a massive. I mean uh a worthy massive Great video game crash of 1983 Todd has an incredibly important lesson in the gaming industry that the wheels of a working economy. They need to keep turning I Wasn't ready yet total My god, that was like that jared video He's responding to rags and that two seconds in I've learned about people is we need to eat before we die. My god is he's one-upping himself Raising bags and peak totaled in the fist Point five video game crash of In the game industry That the wheels of a working economy They need to keep I was It's like he fell asleep The wheels of a working economy they need to keep spinning I Wanted years after the crash, but my dad was able to see the fall of it first hand I picture him looking exactly the same but he has like a great wizard beard But of course he's got like a little patch where there is Yeah It caused the collapse in bankruptcy of many publishers and it put a lot of people out of the job Yeah, I think that would be a natural progression My dad what are you supposed his dad's name is Total senior Don't Ironically said don't hold Did Plastic style competition From those that survived it and it rigged havoc to the economy that was left in its wake It took a long time for it to recover There's a lot of reasons for why it happened There's a lot of reasons for why it happened But I need to go ask my dad Putting the game's market is becoming flooded with low quality games that lacked quality control Low quality games the lacked quality control Wait go go back did he Did he say quality control or low quality control recover There's a lot of reasons for why it happened including the game's market Just becoming flooded with low quality games that lacked quality control Low quality games the lacked quality control, that's amazing That's what makes them low quality games You kidding me? Low quality games that lacked quality control There was also just too many games especially from new and often Unregulated third-party vendors and the rapid shift in popularity towards the home computer market Last year we had a wild year in gaming that had some worrisome indicators that many people are saying Might cause the next crash. I'd like to evaluate those today All right, you guys ready for this? Let's do it. I'm strapped in Someone said dad old versus pro Jared Oh my god Number one is a lack of overall innovation. Is that true? Well, there's a lot of stagnation in the gaming markets and many games that lack of innovation Is that true? That's not a This is a lack of innovation concept. Is that true?  Is that true? Well, there's a lot of stagnation in the gaming markets and many games retread the same turf But there's also been a pretty good amount of creativity on display too in the last few years So I wouldn't go so far to say that the games industry is without innovation either way though It's a pretty subjective criteria no matter how you look at it. Elaine. You're subject to real. Oh, all right That was pointless It all depends on you next. I like yeah, it's just like this is this thing. Well, maybe maybe not You can't answer that The reason for the downturn in creativity, I would say is probably due to a variety of factors including What you just said that you guys okay, so he's now like we don't know the reason that it is like that You went yeah, kind of no not really you can't answer it, but the reason it is The rising cost of video game developments and wages to those people who make them an increased reliance on shielding risk to protect against Substitutory games offered at discount Substitutory games. Is that a real word? I gotta toggle look it up Substitutory subsidiary Substitutory locomotion apparently that is a thing Substitutory Really a word that sounds made up. He could barely pronounce half the um