I've been playing music my whole life and Larry for like the past 20 years has been coming into my shop and jamming just like this and a lot of my background is for Mediterranean music and I met these guys one by one and I shared my Mediterranean experience with a bunch of really talented artists that come from all over actually Slavic influence we have jazz influence we have soul influence Mediterranean and a twist of the Italiano anyways so beautiful was a song that Mike and I did actually on a TV show right here in the spot that we're playing and it was called the Steve Katz old show so it's fun for us to be here tonight but mostly I would say beautiful was about you're doing your daily groove in life you walk the same path you walk the same bus you go to the same bus stop you walk the same sidewalk and they can maybe always be someone there that you wanted to talk to and you have your head set on and and you just like but you don't beautiful was kind of the lyrics were inspired by that we said it like just kind of picture someone hanging and walking in the same path for a long time and they never talked to that person but they kind of go their way and they just they know they're beautiful and it's you'll you'll get it when we play but there you go that's a little backdrop thanks Larry but um all right called Karaguna it's a rhythm that I that I chose from northern Greece you know most of my rhythm stuff came from my dad teaching us these Greek rhythms so like I took this Mediterranean rhythms and I really love like obviously the blues and things like that growing up here so this one is a combination really of like our world sound but we really like took this groove and we all put our personalities in it it's called the tune is called Karaguna gonna continue the story about the barbershop because that's where it started the shop yeah because the shop Anthony's a very gracious person and at night he's playing music and lets lots of people who walk and buy curious invites them in talks around the neighborhood a lot he's talking to me the first time I got a haircut there probably over a year ago as you could tell and he we started talking music and he goes I gotta come by the shop gotta come by the shop and so he and I started playing just acoustic just the bazookie in the base for a long time like six months or something actually before we even had before Ali walked into the shop and and and Anthony kept saying we got to get the groove we got to get the groove we don't have to get a drummer we don't have to do anything till we get the groove and once we got the groove we got the drummer and he was thinking you Mike and but he said let's just get it together first so we did that and then one day he was I guess at the what do you call it the falafel store down the street and he bumps in at protrusion and he bumps into Ali talking probably music again the next thing we know she's a Berkeley student and she's in the music production but she can sing and she came and sang and blew us away we decided to do an album together while back it just happened and and of course like Ali is is we all love her so much she's been such a big big part of all this so Ken and I but between everybody Bill Ali Larry Mike and all of us we we went in the studio and recorded an album that we call Saklamara that's the name of our band Saklamara well and then in live at the Den yeah we with our buddy Doug in North Reading at a studio called the Den studio it was magical experience that we all experienced in Bill's wonderful guitar playing but also wonderful girlfriend made a nice candle at dinner for us that day we had a blast and now but so like going forward from here like those were all songs from that album and and you know as far as like you know Ken and I we we were talking about how we brought this like really high-pitched instrument traditionally it is paired up with a upright bass in a music called you know Rebecca and Greek music has many styles but like anyways this is really has been just a collaboration so thank you studio sessions for having us because we were enjoying it and we're gonna play yeah we got our studio we got our little studio audience here thank you guys that makes it fun but we're gonna we're gonna play a couple of more tunes you know we're gonna we're gonna do that but thank you for having us Jeff and we'll keep the tape rolling and we'll go into heavy G and thank you for the lighting crew and the crew that showed up today for this this has been it's been fun but like I said we're gonna we're gonna rock out on a couple more tunes but Ken you're gonna close this up this this conversation yeah cuz I took it from you so like I want to hit it back I think again very gracious anyway he's almost ready we're almost ready to begin but this has been a real journey I gotta say what I know is really true we're all good friends we really respect each other as musicians we're trying to find the center of the music when we get there it's a place we all love and that's what keeps us going well said behalf of the band I'm gonna speak Bill we had a good time we are suck Lamara hey Larry you want to give us that old soul beat in Allington studio Jeff and I and Katie the director today we all worked on the Steve Katzow show and here we are closing out studio sessions to a tune that I wrote on Monotomy Rock Park pond this old lady and everybody this time of year keeps walking around and she kept she kept looking at me I had to do that but she kept looking at me in a way where she just looked like she had something to say in a kind of a wisdom kind of way and I was just sitting there and she kept going around and she kept saying hi to me when she kept coming back around to me and it was one of those days where like stuff starting to grow at springtime and and that's what old soul inspired and of course suck Lamara put their art on top of this so thank you guys thank you that was great that was really great thank you wow Jeff here you are studio sessions welcome the band is amazing Tony you're very familiar with the space we're glad to have you back oh thank you in the studio Mike to create great to see you guys it's a tough genre to to to find the eclectic music that you guys are playing is really fun and we got to hear a little bit about the background of how you guys came together and who's you know kind of pulling in the these world-class musicians it is amazing to hear all of these instruments together and do you guys rehearse in the barbershop that's what I want we do but we like to have we like to have like we we'd like to have like a couple of tequilis and hang on play music and to and we're friends too so like we don't just rehearse we actually hang out now fun too but yes of course the barbershop lights go down and it becomes it's been a rehearsal space for like 28 years you know we're constantly making stuff up as we're rehearsing just new stuff well just all of a sudden do something new so we we're sort of growing out ahead of ourselves it's really fun yeah it's blast it's it's it's nice to play original music and be creative with the people while and have that experience it's different than just a regular GB gig like so like for us we've been having fun being creative but that you know it's not so much a conversation the conversations in the music wonderful can you introduce the man yeah so again Ali ended up we meeting next door you know Ali um Aliona Sorakina but man she has contributed in a big way say a quick hello hi guys that's all I can say in English that is not true by the way no Ali you've been like such a joy for all of us to have be around your energy is a gift and I feel like really blessed to be playing with you I think we all feel the same way I'm gonna say Mike can you say a quick hi hi everybody okay Mikey is is by far most solid beat you're gonna hear thank you very much man all right Mike there's never a day where he doesn't like deliver that that solid rhythm man it's just the groove is awesome and we're again just as blessed to have Mike Ali when we introduce you to this guy when they get going and start singing and stuff to we just understand each other on the stage we will you know when you guys get going and start singing together and playing together connecting like like Ken says when we get to that place I always enjoy that with you guys all right Larry a few words here just great to be here it's great to be playing with everybody here it's great to see you all here and thank you thank you thank you who's this guy anything else you wanted to say before we give it to the guy behind you over there this guy man Ken and Bill are friends and Ken really wanted me to meet Bill for a long time and I'm so glad we did he's just a megaton and a wealth of knowledge and an awesome groove or he can groove he can play lead he can play rhythm he can do something you've never heard before anybody ever do just awesome you guys say something I often do stuff I've never heard before it's a really it's a fun band to play with and I was doing a session with Ken and he talked me into coming down and playing with the Greek guy you got to hear this guy I'm just grabbing a tiger by the tail most of the time and trying to find a place to fit in but it's been a lot of fun that actually is the gift that he has to offer that he can do that absolutely we're gonna wrap it up here for studio sessions I want to thank Sakamaru for being here and it's been it's been a treat for the cast and crew everybody thank you very much for being here and I don't do this I don't ever step on the side of the camera but Anthony asked me to so here I am I really appreciate it so studio sessions thank you guys and that's a wrap thank you everybody


Welcome to Hawaii, the state of clean energy. Our guest today is Rachel James. Thank you for coming here, Rachel. And I'm Maria Tomei. I'm guest hosting while Jay, both Jay and Sharon are off doing other things. So thank you for coming, Rachel. And I'd like to talk to you today about what we were talking about before, you know, envisioning our communities, envisioning our energy and, you know, how people are involved or could be involved or should they be involved with what we do with energy in Hawaii. Many exciting things. Well, first, thank you for allowing me to be here. It's a topic I care very much about, so I'm happy to share a bit with you. So I guess to start with your first question is what are people doing? Hawaii is fortunate to have a community-based renewable energy program. I think that's a good starting point for how communities can engage with the current electricity utility infrastructure. Thanks. And this is, I know you mentioned it's very important to you, I guess, as an energy justice fellow, you're thinking about these issues from a community point of view. So the law school, William S. Richardson School of Law at UH Mānoa, has an energy justice program. And historically, our program focus has been to engage communities largely for the purpose of community capacity building. And so instead of kind of giving information that's broad and not necessarily specific, we've come to communities on the invitation to receive information about a particular energy topic. So the program started about three or four years ago, and those first couple of years, there was information that was shared about the next-era proposed merger because that was a hot topic. And so some program fellows went onto the North Shore. They did a lot of research. They met with community groups there, and they presented information definitely from a legal perspective, kind of policy-leaning, but just giving a comprehensive overview of what was being proposed to give community members an opportunity to be conversant on the topic. Yeah. So was there a lot of interest in those communities? There was. Again, we came on the invitation, so we came because a community group on the North Shore asked for information. So there was certainly interest already, but they just weren't quite sure where to get the information from, and I'd say the available pathways at that time, either one were unfamiliar to them, or two when they accessed it, it didn't really seem to yield the information they could understand. And so just being able to give some background for Hawaii's utility infrastructure, as well as how that interacted with the current concern, was helpful for the community to get a good handle on what was going on. Yeah, it does sound interesting. Of course, I'm an energy person. Yes. Very interesting for us. Yeah. Yeah. So was it just one meeting? Was it a series? It was a series of meetings. Yeah.  I wasn't actually on that team, so I'm getting this third party information, but getting to know the students, getting to know the community members, understanding the questions that they had, understanding kind of where their baseline knowledge was, and then doing the research to understand what was currently happening, if and how that could affect the community, if there had been information presented specifically about that community, letting them know kind of where to get information in the future, and really what a change like that could mean for the utility. Yeah. Wow. So was it evenings, weekends, during the weekday? I think they were evening meetings. I don't remember the details. Yeah. Like I'm envisioning the report in my head right now. Yeah. I'm like, no, no, no. Yeah. I can't remember if they were evening meetings. I'm going to assume so, largely because we have classes over the daytime. Yeah. So I'm thinking they were probably evening meetings, just because evening meetings allow community members who aren't necessarily in energy to participate. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Excellent. So that's just so this is continuing. Yeah. So the second project was one on Molokai. Okay. Yeah. And that's been an ongoing effort. So I think Molokai, again, on the invitation of the community, so sustainable or sustainable Molokai, they have longstanding, I'd say, engagement with energy. And they've worked with Hawaii Energy, but then looking more into community energy and community energy planning. They had a connection with the law school and so asked, could some of your folks come out and just kind of do a snapshot of what could be possible here at Molokai and what are some concerns that might need to be addressed if the community wanted to look at community energy planning. So some students went out. There's a report on that on the Energy Justice website as well. And then a colleague of mine and I, we were on Molokai last, I can't remember the month right now. I want to say last November, but last year we'll just do that. We were there, actually it might have been this year. Anyways, I'm sorry we were there and we met with some groups both from around Molokai and as well as around the world with a project that brought together community energy projects really from around the world from Australia, Japan, Denmark, Greece, a few other places. So I get the sense that you think that the community being interested in what's happening on the energy front is a good thing. It's certainly good for us. It gives us an in. So I mean from just outside of the Energy Justice Program. You hear what the community is thinking before planning and really provide an opportunity for collaborative planning. I think the energy transition that we're seeking to implement is one that is quite grand. And to the extent that we can make that a collaborative process where as many parties as possible benefit, and not strictly from a clean energy perspective, but really the benefits both in how a community develops and where things are cited, if there's monetary returns, if there's informational opportunities for communities, there's really a lot of ways that people can benefit from collaborative energy planning. So are the folks who participate in these, you know, how does this work? Do they go because their friends say, hey, we're going to get free food?  It's complicated.  You know, to have folks come out, you know, from, you know, from the law school side or from the developer side and from the community to discuss things, it seems to me that's, you know, that that's a good thing if you can get it to work. So what are the elements of success or that you've seen? I mean, I'm sure there are lots of models and it probably depends on where. Oh, certainly. There's actually a playbook. What motivates folks to participate? I couldn't speak on behalf of the community members who participated, but I can, I mean, there's a playbook for island community planning that the Rocky Mountain Institute has put forth and there's also, so the law school has also developed, well, not the law school so much, but the energy justice program has developed an energy democracy website where we talk about energy democracy and energy justice and what it means for community energy planning. But so some of the highlights is that we're very reliant on partner organizations. So those different pieces that you're mentioning in the collaboration and kind of herding cats process, that's not just law students doing that, but it's really identifying who in the span of people you have contact to or contact with, rather, are going to be effective in the discussion. And if you know that you can't reach the person that you think needs to be in the discussion, then that's when we lean on our partners. So as law students, we can certainly garner the legal community, the law students just to have people there for like note-taking and distillation and explaining things to people. But getting the broader community involved, we were really reliant on our community partner, which was Sustainable Molokai. Yeah, yeah. Now, just a quick side. Okay. So the way they write their name has the Okina. So it's Sustainable Molokai. Yes. So I was just wondering, is it, if you say Sustainable Molokai, it really sounds Australian. Is that correct? Or do you say sustainable? That is correct pronunciation. Yes. Yeah. Well, I've heard it pronounced both ways. But in creation, it was Sustainable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's neat. It's like, wait, how do we, what's the proper way to? I think they don't mince words about it too much because I've asked that question and they're like, as long as people are referencing us, I think it's okay. But no, so you're correct in Sustainable. Yeah. Yeah. So once they get, you know, folks probably come and listen to what's being thought about or, you know, if there's a choice of one place or another or one technology or another. Oh. But what about other areas of interest? Because I'm sure most people who are interested enough to come and talk about energy want to know what they can do, you know, not just to be there and give input for that moment. But are they also interested in doing things themselves or with their homes or their businesses? So I guess if I give you a framework for how the meeting goes, perhaps that will answer some of the questions that you've asked. So I can speak to Molokai because I was there and in the planning process, that was a day long event. So about 10 to four, 10 to three.  So if as we're sharing information about the subject matters that we are conversing in, a community wants to go on a, a community member has a question either about what we've shared or if it sparks something that leads in a different direction, they have an opportunity to bring those concerns to the table. And if the, if the capacity is in the room to respond, so we had for this meeting, Half Moon Ventures was there as well as Miko. And so some of the questions we didn't necessarily have a response to you, but the developer did and they stood up in the crowd and responded, which we prepare those community partners for like we hope that you'll be here and if questions come, we hope that you're prepared to respond. But of course, that's nothing that we can say you have to, but we hope that your participation is such that people feel comfortable and you feel comfortable in responding to questions that we haven't necessarily known would come. Yeah. So in answering, people asked definitely what they could do as a community as well as what individually could be available to them and what, what developers had experienced in other developments on the mainland as well as if they had other establishments here in the islands and also asking the utility just kind of community outreach and whom they were speaking with and if they had been there before, perhaps some community members weren't aware of it and like how is that information getting out. So it was really an opportunity both for community members to recognize that many efforts had been undertaken by both developers and the utility as well as sustainable Molokai. So different organizations had undertaken the effort of getting information out, but some community members hadn't known. So better understanding, how do we reach, how do we reach the community more broadly, more effectively? Yeah. So we were able to have a pretty good dialogue around that. And then the closing portion was really an opportunity for people to just share their takeaways for the day and not necessarily for the purpose of inspiring a response, but just to share. Yeah. Well, that's good. Yeah. And that's a, that's a long amount of time. It was, we did have food. This is, you know, yes, a lot of expenditure of energy. It is. So you need some inputs there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what other things do the environmental, sorry, energy justice program folks get involved with? I mean, so in our scholarship at law school, that's the energy justice program is housed under the environmental law program. So we do look at environmental concerns from like an energy perspective. And so myself and another student recently presented at the Hawaii conservation conference. And we spoke about the need for energy development to more inclusively engaged conservation environmentalists and just a broader spectrum of people who are doing efforts to conserve the land. Because I guess a broader effort, you would say, of renewable energy is to ultimately conserve the resources that we have here on earth. But speaking more locally into the things that we see each day and the degradation that people experience from just kind of human traffic, being able to speak with the community of conservationists and environmentalists as well. And to educate them on renewable energy development and how we can collaborate on more successful development, but also to learn some of their, I don't want to say tactics so much, but that's what the word that comes to mind is learn their tactics in really garnering community support for action. And so we spoke about things that are already in Hawaii's laws that are unique to the state that allow that type of kind of creative approach, as well as community based efforts that have shown success in conservation. Yeah, I like the examples of success. We have to take a break right now, but when we come back, let's talk more about that. Sounds good. Thanks. This is Think Tech Hawaii, raising public awareness. Tuesday at 11 a.m. about things that matters to tech, matter to science to the people of Hawaii with some extraordinary guests, the students of our schools who are participating in science fair. So young talents making way every Tuesday at 11 a.m. only on Think Tech Hawaii. Mahalo. Okay, we're back. Welcome back. Rachel James. Thank you so much again for being here on today's Energy Wednesday, Hawaii State of Clean Energy. Now we were talking a lot of examples of success. Yes. How do we define success? I appreciate that question. This is why I think it's so important to engage with communities because success from the perspective of a person who's developed a project or funded it or in some way has placed a project there might not be the same success that a community identifies with. So I think success can be determined in a number of ways, but it's important that it's a collaborative determination and that as many parties as possible agree to what that success is from a diverse interest group. Yeah. So what would be some success, success measures? Is it that nobody's complaining? I mean, I guess that's a great starting point. You know, I think certainly the the the ease with which the process moves forward. Outside of the permitting process, because that's that's something that I don't know can necessarily be governed by good community relationships, but perhaps, but certainly not protest throughout the development. And I remember speaking with I'm going to forget the person right now. Was this on Molokai or? No, it was I think on the Big Island actually. I think it was, I want to say it was Kelly King and if she's watching and I've misquoted, I apologize. But just mentioning the development of their of their plant was without protest and I remember her sharing that the reason for that was because they engaged in community early and one, it wasn't a surprise, but two, it also reflected something that the community thought would actually be well housed there. And so when it actually came about, she was mentioning colleagues asking like, well, like, where are your protesters and she's like, why would I have protesters? So certainly that seems to be one clear identifier of success. I think another is if there's an opportunity for the community to benefit monetarily. So sometimes that can look like a community fund. Sometimes that shared ownership. Sometimes that's communities develop cooperatives. Sometimes that's communities get community centers that have that are, you know, completely zero net energy and perhaps as a learning center for the community, maybe they didn't have one before. So really it can look a lot of different ways. But the primary thing is that the people who are making the decisions for the location have taken the time to speak to as many people from as many backgrounds. Yeah, from the people at the location. Yeah, I can imagine situations where somebody says, oh, I've got to come up with something that community would like, I personally would like X and they go do that. And the community is like, what they did that for? Yeah, no, certainly well intended, but sometimes just doesn't represent the community that is actually receiving the benefit. Right, right. Yeah.  To what extent should a community maybe determine for themselves what they'd like to see and what the measures of success would be, you know, whether it's the community center that folks want, or if it's, you know, somebody at least telling them what the benefit, you know, counting out the carbon dioxide emissions avoided or something like that. Is that part of the conversation or does that get too complicated? I think the basis of conversation is to just get I don't want to say just get input, but you can only dream as far as what you know. And so if a developer comes to the table and they have an understanding of what communities might want and the community has an understanding of what renewable energy can provide. And those understandings come from very different places. They may both come to the table and share something with the other. And the response from each is, gosh, I never thought of that. And it's not so much because either was malinformed so much as just they're only inspired by their own experience. So a lot of community energy planning and the Department of Energy did a report where they did a series of case studies on different community energy planning projects. And in that, I would say less measurements of success so much as things that they found helpful in the process of community energy planning. So they distilled out like nine steps that they felt were essential to having a quote unquote successful community energy planning process. Oh, that sounds good. Yes. And so one of those things is having diverse party input and then having that input early on and having that input sustained throughout the process. Funding is also obviously a large piece. But then having consistent information and having kind of focal points for that information. So not just posting emails or on websites or like, I did a flyer at a community center, but really making sure your information is getting to the constituency that you're seeking to inform and being available for information, responding to the information that you've sent out. Yeah. So talking about the different viewpoints of what is success, how do you get input? How do you measure success? A question also comes to mind. And I don't know if anybody studied this, but there seems to be a natural evolution. It's like we are thinking about the things we are normally thinking about. And so people, when you talk about energy, very often think, oh, my energy bill or what I pay for fuel or how much fuel I use or how much energy I use. And so they're thinking about it from a monetary, personal, or family finance point of view. And then you've also got the other view of, well, carbon emissions, and we need to have, you know, development of renewable resources to displace the need to be burning the fossil fuels. And so is there any measure of how that view of what your individual choices are or what your individual energy uses gradually gets informed by, wow, I'm having an impact on not only my local economy, but also the state's accomplishment of its goals and, you know, the whole global carbon thing. Is that something that is measured in any way? Because it seems to me that it's been happening.  And now you do. So something somewhere seems to have been changing that way. Do you notice that in communities too? Or is that something somebody could do a research project on? I don't know. I want to make sure I'm following your question.  You know, I may be paying less and doing good things. That's the best. Yeah, I think they begin to care. Many perspectives come to the table. So while there are certainly people who are concerned about what they're going to pay or how much they can not pay. You also have people who are really concerned about the environment, while they may not necessarily have the means to participate in what's readily available or programmatically or in tariffs with the current utility infrastructure. That hasn't lessened their kind of firm desire to be able to participate in the process. So when what's been exciting is for people who have that predisposition to then learn that there is also potential for monetary benefit. That's the two for one that you mentioned where it's like, wow, yeah. So that's, I think I certainly can't speak for others, but I can say many people do kind of think of the community like that identifier as though like it's very singular and that the community will have a perspective. And when I speak about community and when I speak about the success of those projects that are based in community, it's really because the fabric of the community has been represented in the process. I like that phrase. I like that because it is, you know, the fabric of it is. It's a bunch of different folks coming together from different directions together. Yeah, so one person may be aware of what several things are being discussed. But yeah, I like that. So what do you see as coming up? Can you say what? Oh, certainly. Well, so Hawaii, as I mentioned, has the CBRE program, Community-Based Renewable Energy. And so there are applications currently open for subscriber organizations. And what I think is unique about our program is that the subscriber organization is really kind of the space for creativity. And so that's the space where a developer, a community group, a series of community groups, nonprofits, where that can really look a lot of different ways. And I think that's a space where Hawaii can really be creative right now. The program has a pretty set infrastructure as far as how the utility, like how the utility is paying people and what your credit is going to be, but who that benefits and who is engaged in that development process of where the development is located, what size it is, and kind of who the players are and who's going to be benefiting. That's something that's fully within the sphere of the subscriber organization. So I'm interested to see how Hawaii plays with that. And I think there's some pretty creative folks at the table. Oh, good. Yeah, glad to hear that. I know back when we were looking at that originally, many, many years ago. Yes. It's been an effort. They're talking about the community-based projects. Yes. A lot of folks were like, oh, I got solar covered parking. I want shade for my car. Maybe it's an electric car or maybe it's an electric bus or maybe it's electric bicycles. But we want shady parking lots. It was funny. There was so much enthusiasm.  If you're going to have a parking lot, you know, it would be nice if the sun was being directed to some useful purpose. No, and that's that's where the community or as I said, the subscriber organization can really be creative. So the first phase is strictly solar panels. But we're hopeful and as identified by the tariff, there should be in the second phase opportunities for other not only generation sources, but pairing with storage as well. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. Yeah. So are those, if a community or a group of some sort wants to talk to folks at your energy justice center, do they send an email? You said you have a website. We do. And I should have brought the website to tell you what it is. But if you Google search energy justice program, William S. Richards in School of Law, you'll certainly find that website. Yeah. And then contacting the environmental law program again is what houses the energy justice program. So the email information there is also a ready contact. And people who are interested can also just contact me. And that's Rachel. Well, rjames9 at Hawaii.edu. Excellent. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess you're looking forward to seeing what folks come up with and working together to develop some good projects. Indeed. Yeah. So do you only focus on O'ahu? I know you mentioned Moloka'i. So it seems like there's something. Is it a statewide initiative? The energy? Well, so Hawaii's law school is the state's law school. So while we're focused, I would say on the state we're located in Honolulu. So by virtue of our location, our immediate access points are here on island. But to the extent that we have partners on other islands, we certainly look forward to that outreach as well. So Moloka'i, we have a strong partner there. We've been there. And a developing partnership with Maui. And then I'd say those are our strongest at present. But we've got a graduate who's working with some communities on Hawaiian homelands on the Big Island. So developing partnerships. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever work with the counties? I mean, we only have about a minute left. Oh, OK. But because I'm thinking transportation, you know, you probably got limited resources. And so could there be like a Skype or a Zoom type of meeting? Or something. That seems possible in one minute time. Yeah. That would be energy efficient on the transportation side as well. Yeah. No, that certainly seems possible. We've recently, a new director has accepted the position. So Richard Wallsgrove, formerly with Blue Planet Foundation, is now the Energy Justice Program. Well, that is not the specific title. Whatever. That, yeah. So he is now the director there. Oh, exciting time. Yes, definitely. So what he has in store, we have yet to see. But just historically, he's been super supportive of our efforts. So I figure we'll probably carry on the same vein as well as some new things. OK. Well, thank you so much. It's been very interesting. So you heard it here. Energy Justice Program fellow, Rachel James, telling us about some of their successes, how they determine success, and the importance of the community being involved in discussing what to do and how to do it and feeling a sense of ownership or at least appreciating the benefits that can come to the state as a whole when we reach our energy objectives. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Thank you very much.


Here's the process of developing a program in C. First, you use an editor to create the source code, which goes into a file that ends with .c. The compiler takes your source code and, if it doesn't have any errors, converts it to an object program with a file that ends in .o. If you have errors in the code, then you have to go back and fix those and compile again. The object file is in a binary format, but it can't be run independently. Instead, the object file is passed on to the linker, which brings in code from C libraries and possibly other programs that are necessary for your program to run. The result of the linking process is an executable file. On Linux and Macintosh systems, this commonly has the name a.out. Depending on your integrated development environment, it might create a file with the .exe extension or it might create a file with your program name and no extension. You can now run this program and see if it gives the desired result. If not, you go back to the edit stage. The compile and link process is often called building the program. Now that we know the process, let's look at a C program, which will save in a file called firstunderscoreprogram.c. Every course and company has its own style guidelines for writing C programs, and so does this course. One of our style guidelines is that we'll always use all lowercase for the file name and use an underscore to separate words in a file name. That means this is a good file name, whereas these file names with capital letters and spaces in the names aren't according to our guidelines. Another one of our guidelines is that every program starts with comments that describe the purpose of a program and that has your name and the date in it. Multi-line comments in C begin with a slash star and end with a star slash. This program demonstrates printing to the console, which is our screen. Its other purpose is to see if the C compiler and linker are installed and working properly. And my name and the date. You may have noticed that the IDE created the leading star on each line. If your integrated development environment doesn't do that, don't worry. As long as you have the beginning slash star and ending star slash, everything is fine. Remember how I said that the linker brings in code from other C libraries? One of the most important libraries is the standard input and output library. You need to tell the compiler that your program is going to use functions from that library, and you do that by including its header file. You say it this way, number sign include, and then in angle brackets the name of the header file, which is STDIO, standing for standard input and output, dot H. Let's save the program now before we lose our hard work. Now it's time for literally the main event. We're going to define a special function named main that has no parameters and returns an integer. We start with the return type int for integer, the name of the function, and then in parentheses the parameters. Because there are no parameters, we use the special keyword void. After this function header, we put a pair of braces. These braces enclose a block, a group of statements that belong together. And here's another style guideline. Our book always puts the opening brace on a line by itself. Some programming guidelines will tell you to put the opening brace at the end of the first line. But we're going to go with the books method for this course. Inside the braces, we'll call the printf function from the standard IO library. We give the name of the function, and then in parentheses we put the argument to that function. And we're going to print out the words, myc program works, exclamation point, and then backslash in. At the end of every c statement, you need to put a semicolon. Printf is the formatted print function. This backslash in is the new line character. If we were to use another printf to print more text, it would then appear on a new line. There are two style guidelines here. First, the last output of your program must end with a new line character. Second, the code inside the braces must be indented. Some integrated development environments indent eight spaces when you press Tab. Others indent only four or two spaces. Some integrated development environments insert actual spaces, and some will merely insert the Tab character. My preference is for four spaces, but this is really a theological issue, and I'm not going to take sides. Use whatever your IDE recommends and be consistent in your usage. We need one more statement inside the main function to complete our program. We said that main returns an integer, and we have to fulfill that contract by typing return zero and again a semicolon to end that statement. This brings up two questions. First, whom are we returning the zero to? And second, why are we returning zero instead of some other number? The zero is being returned to the operating system, which executes your program in the first place. When we return zero, that signals to the operating system that the program completed successfully. A non-zero value would mean some sort of error occurred. Let's save the program and build it, and luckily we had no typing errors, so the compilation finished successfully. When we execute the program, it prints out the message, my C program works, and as you can see, the operating system tells us that exit code was zero. The return code becomes very useful when your operating system lets you write scripts to automate tasks. In a script, you might execute several different C programs as a sequence of steps. The return code will let you know whether one step succeeded or not before you go on to the next step. Let's recap. Your source code gets compiled and linked to become an executable program. Your programs will always begin with comments. The number sign include line gives your program access to all the functions declared in the standard input output header file, stdio.h. The main function is the one that the operating system calls when your program runs. The body of the function is between the braces. The printf function lets you print information to the screen, and you return zero to indicate that the program concluded successfully.


Meanwhile, the senator representing Delta North, Peter Wamborshi, has defected to the all-progressive Congress, APC, days after his suspension from the State People's Democratic Party. President Mohamed Buhari also welcomed the senator to the APC. Senator representing Delta North. A member of the PDP, Mr. President, in line with the mandate and injunctions from Mr. President and the chairman of her party to go out and recruit the strongest of the opposition to assist in pushing the agenda of Mr. President and moving this country forward, I have been able to reach out to the senator who, by the way, has been working even doing PDP with the Senate president and myself in managing the affairs of the Senate. I have been able to convince him to join the party to assist in moving your agenda and the agenda of the party forward. Mr. President, I have the pleasure to present to you Senator Peter Wamborshi.


Recently it's been discovered that only one third of our DNA is fixed, the other two-thirds is in your control. It's called gene expression, so if you can alter your DNA with frequencies, just imagine how much you can change yourself or someone else.


Coming to our next question, and this is I'm sorry our last question Can you still have a class 10a shed on a farm? I? Had it. Oh up the front here. I've had plenty of moans across Australia, but oh, I like that Can you still have a 10a shed on a farm? Yes or no? Yes, no What why would you call it a 10a? Good point sir. That's what we're going to walk through right now Machinery shed hay shed, etc That I've got to go to the I suppose the heritage this question in that in NCC 2016 I think it was we introduced part h3 which introduced concessions for farm buildings and farm sheds on so basically these sheds were getting on farms and the problem was that Class 7s and 8s when they were plodule farm the buildings should have been a class 7 class 8 People thinking are too onerous. I'll just call it a 10a So we put in these concessions to catch buildings, which should be class 7 and 8 and give them some concessions based on the fact that they're low occupancy far from anywhere and They these these were appropriate concessions to people use part h3 We got something excellent. So there is some value in doing this I know here in the heart of Melbourne. There's not many farm buildings or farm sheds But Yeah, I'm glad that some people here. So this what this example here Is it a class 10a? Or is it a class 7 because what do you do with the class 10a shed? You store stuff What do you do with the class 7 storage building? You store stuff. So how do we make the determination of the correct classification when applying the building code of Australia? So we put in part h3 like I said and we've got all these warranted concessions now the thing to note is that the gateway into the part h3 concessions is The definite the defined term for a farm building or farm shed and each of those start with a class 7 or 8 building So the key to this is that you classify the building before you get to the concessions Does that make sense? You classify the building before you get to the concession So you have to determine is this a 10a or is this a class 7? Classify the building before you get to the provisions This is a class 8 building. No question. There's a process going on in here fruit packing You know goods goods are packed for trade sale or gain. It's a class 8 Building the building is occupied But occupied in accordance with the parameters set out in the defined term for a for a farm building And it's easy to identify because you know class 7 storage class 10 storage class 8 You're doing something in there as a process. So it's easy to identify that When we get to the 7b and are we storing things is it going to be a class 7 or a class 10? Some some judgment is required and we've got some help in the guide Farm buildings used for farming purposes We have to make find the most appropriate classification. We've got some help here. We're looking for What we're considering if it's a class 10 a storage shed or a 7b storage shed Take into account the building size its purpose The operations that it's placed in and importantly the extent to which people are employed in the building If employees are in the building 7b If it's not employees in the building, yeah I it might be a 10 a these are the questions that we ask ourselves when we're trying to determine if this storage building is going To be a 7b or a 10. I Happily call this a 7 This is a very large grain storage building in a very large weed operation It's not generally occupied, but when people are in there, they're not the it's not farmage. Oh, it's the it's the employees that go into that building to manage the grain storage It's a large building. It's presenting a hazard to occupants. So it is appropriate to call it a 7b shed whereas this shed I Call this a different story This shed is on a private farm in New South Wales. It's actually my sister's shed This is my brother-in-law. That's his tractor there. He doesn't employ people to go and drive it He gets in the tractor himself. He only he gets in there to get the tractor out There's no employees in there. It's a building which presents low hazard And so I'd very happily personally call that a class 10 a shed Not just because it's my brother-in-law shed But because it meets the parameters that we discussed there in the guide So the take-home message is that you need to in applying part h3 You need to classify the building before you get there. So you classify the building determine what is What's the use of the building? What's the size of the building? What's the hazard it presents? Employees going to that building if it's all low hazard. Yeah, you probably attend class 10 a if you're getting high hazard getting employees You're probably be leaning towards a 7a, but there's a lot of I understand It's a difficult thing to to determine but it's it's we're trying to help you apply that judgment that we need to


Dedicated to the strength of the nation. Proudly we hail... Starring Victor Mature, an exchange professor. A United States Army and United States Air Force presentation. And now here is your host, the well-known Hollywood showman, C.P. McGregor. Thank you. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, and greetings from Hollywood. Welcome to your Theatre of Stars. Where all the foremost names of the cinema join us in plays we know you'll enjoy. Our star, making a return engagement to our microphone, is the very popular Victor Mature. Our story is a comedy romance called Exchange Professor. We'll have the curtain for Act 1 in just a moment, but first, here is Wendell Niles with an important message. Young man, be a volunteer. Your army and your Air Force urgently need men right away. Take advantage of the many choices of jobs now opened to volunteers. If you're single and between the ages of 18 and 34, enlist right away. Get full details at your nearest U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force recruiting station today. Serve yourself and your country. Be a volunteer. And I'll back to your host, C.P. McGregor. The curtain rises on Act 1 of Exchange Professor starring Victor Mature as Dr. Philip Clark. At Gates College, seat of traditional learning in the sovereign state of Massachusetts, registration for the fall term was going on full-fetal. On campus, it was a general air of excitement, gaiety, and anticipation. But in the private office of Owen Cartwright, president of the college, there was considerable tension. Tension occasioned by the presence of Dr. Philip Clark, the rather handsome young philosophy professor. Philip Clark was agitated. Yes, yes, that's the word. Sir, you'll forgive me, but this is positively outrageous. What is outrageous, Dr. Clark? This order of yours detaining me. I had a brain stone. You certainly did. What? Sir. That's better. You must never forget your place with your president, Dr. Clark. Well, I will say that you make it difficult. Oh, come now. Philip, if you'll excuse the colloquialism, just what are you beefing about? I'm beefing about the fact that I have to remain here three more days. Why are you in such a rush? I had it all planned out. The Queen Mary sales for England Friday. That would allow me three exciting days in New York City. But no, no, I'm stuck here. What's so fascinating about New York? New York has its fascinating aspects. Grant's tomb? Oh, no.  Ha, ha, ha. That better? Yes, your frame of mind, Philip. That almost constitutes a yoke. Yoke in radio parlance for a huge guvah. But getting back to New York, why such interest? Couldn't be a romance. Of course not. Oh, I was afraid of that. Foolish question. All I wanted was a couple of days to myself away from academics and textbooks to do. Well, I don't know what. Ride the subway, eat in the automatic. Yeah, maybe even visit Grant's tomb. Phil, you are manifesting tension. Lonely. I am not, sir. All right, Phil. But let's look at things. What are you growling about? Look what you are. Exchange professor. Look what you've got. One year at the University of Bristol. The most sought after exchange this year. Every person on the faculty wanted it. And you got it, especially chosen by the trustees. Now, why the sour grapes? Because you're keeping me here. That's why? All I want you to do is to orientate the exchangeee from Bristol. But why must I do the orientation work? Just a courtesy. And because it works out. We matriculate earlier than they do. Great, great. You know, I could have insisted that you fly to England. There was provision for flying in the exchange. I could have kept you here a week. All right, I bow to the inevitable. Now, you are manifesting intelligence, Phillip, my boy. It's only a few more days. Besides, he's bound to be a nice chap. I've got his name here somewhere. Yes, here we are. Paul Wingate. Say, he's due to arrive on the 630 train. Yes, sir. Miss Beasley, check and see if the 630 train is on time, would you? Very good, sir. And find out what the television schedule shows tonight, will you? Yes, sir. No fail, you shouldn't mind giving us a mere three days. I believe I said I'm resigned to it. That's the spirit. Sir. You know, getting this exchange professorship hasn't hurt you a bit. You should have heard Governor Winton raving about you. We're indeed fortunate to have the governor, chairman of our trustees, and to think he almost went to Yale. I wish he had. Yes. The train's on time, sir. Thank you. Oh. No. Hoppe, tonight? Tomorrow night. Oh, sir, it is. Thank you, Miss Beasley. Get your hat, Phillip. We've just time to get to the station. Goodie. Phillip, everything is going to be fine. Prexy always knows best. Yeah. Now, remember, Phillip, you're going to extend every courtesy. Oh, I'll take care of the character. That's an abominable attitude. Say, I wonder where he is. Maybe he forgot to get on the boat in Bristol. I'll take your call. Yes. Oh, you seem to be looking for someone. Are you possibly from Gates College? We are. Yes, yes. Well, I'm Wingate. Wingate? Paula Wingate from Bristol. But you're wearing a dress. Will you, by chance, expecting me in muffler and great coat? Well, yes, I mean we were misinformed. Prexy, it's a girl. And a very lovely one, too. Miss Wingate, I trust it is Miss Wingate. That's right. I'm Dr. Clark. I'm exchanging with you. Well, I'm delighted to meet you, Dr. Clark. And this is President Clark by the Gates College. How do you do, Miss Wingate? I'm overwhelmed, sir, that you would be so very generous as to come to the station to meet me. Why, it's an honor. You'd excuse the seeming confusion we were expecting a man. Weren't we Prexy? Yes, yes. You see, your name came through as Paul Wingate. That's strange. Well, I daresay, under the circumstances, you were amazed. Amazed is out of the word for a day, Philip. What's that? Philip, quit staring at Miss Wingate and go arrange for her luggage. Oh, forgive me. Oh, I can do that. Oh, no, I'll be glad to hear. No, no, I'll sit. I'll only be a moment. Hubba, hubba. Does Prexy know best? Nonsense. You seem to be taken in by the landscape. Don't be absurd, sir. Ah, most attractive young lady. I should think you'd thank me for detaining you here and giving you the privilege of showing her the campus for a couple of days? I'm not interested in guided tours. I think I've made that plain in your office earlier. However, I will be obedient and do my very best to familiarize the young lady with her duties. This is our campus, Professor Wingate. It's lovely. Across from you there is the fine arts building. Oh. Chemistry building to your left, arts and science to your right. On this very spot here, General Howell drilled his troops during the revolution. Looks like a splendid drill ground. But I'm afraid the good general did not drill his troops quite as much as he should have. Maybe you're right. If history is any indication. Oh, Dr. Clark. Oh, hello, Quentin. My, it's a lovely day. Oh, Professor Quentin. May I present Professor Wingate, University of Bristol, my exchange. How do you do, Professor Quentin? Charmed, Professor Wingate. Charmed. Charmed. Careful, Quentin. You might blow a gasket. Oh, but I've been wanted to meet Professor Wingate. There have been some quite fabulous rumors concerning you, Professor Wingate. And I must say you confirmed them all. Why, how kind of you. Oh, yes, you do. Has he shown you Quentin Hall, named after my grandfather? Professor Wingate, I think we should be going. We have considerable ground to cover. As you wish. I enjoyed meeting you, Professor Quentin. And I. But... Oh, look at this, Cynthia Bush. Just like he said. Hubba, hubba. Not to you, Quentin. Oh, she is quite lovely. Every man to his own opinion.  Bon voyage, old chap. Happy landings. We're now approaching the student union building, Professor Wingate. Just call me Wingate, if you'd like. They all do at home. All right, Wingate. We are friends now, aren't we? Of course. Good. I do want to make friends quickly to fit in. But everyone seems to stop and stare wherever I go. So they do. But I guess everyone will soon get to know you, Wingate. I hope so. This is the student union building? Yes, well, all the undergraduates hang out. I thought you might like a soda. Oh, how nice. Isn't it lovely here? So completely equipped. All the tables, the soda fountain, and the piano. Keep playing, Forsythe. Yes, sir. I'm a music lover, Forsythe. Didn't you know? Yes, sir. And what do the drinks be? Yikes. Hey, you must be the new prof from London. Just give us some drinks, Wigan. Two chocolate sodas. Yes, sir. I say, what is this hubba-hubba I keep hearing? Oh, it's sort of an American slang of approval. Then maybe I'm doing OK, as you might say here in America. I'm afraid you're doing plenty OK, Wingate. Wingate, this is Phillip. Yes, Phillip. I wondered if you might like to drive up to the observatory tonight. Well, that should prove exciting. Why? I find Professor Quinton quite interesting. His family's closely associated with the college here. Yes, and he'll be the first to tell you. Perhaps tomorrow night we could manage it. Professor Quinton's also asked for that. Well... I'm terribly sorry. I suppose Quinton has also asked to see you the following night, my last night here? Oh, and... Then? That would be lovely. Oh, thanks, Wingate. You know, you'll like the observatory here. I'll call for you at eight. OK. Who was that? Possibly one of the undergraduates. He's quite a popular place for the students. I've been told. I can see why. A magnificent view. Quite reminiscent of Brandon Hill in Bristol. Yeah, well, tell me about it. Well, there's not much to tell. You'll see it. It overlooks the city, and you can view the Avon and the Fromme rivers, the cathedral, all the history of the town laid out below. There was history written below us here. Yes. Yes, we're not too far from Concord.  Concord is now that part of the universe which dignifies men with freedom. And the spirit that made those spirits dare is needed now more than ever before. That was quite beautifully thought. Thanks. And spoken. You're very kind. Emerson's words. I don't know where he drew his inspiration, but I have only to look at your silhouette against the moon to know where I drew mine. I think we should go now. Well, I bid you a very reluctant good night. Good night? I suppose goodbye would be more correct.  Yes. I suppose I could fly to England. Instead of going by boat, that would give me a few more days here. Whatever you think, Philip. What do you think? I would like to see you, of course. Then I'll go by plane. And this isn't goodbye, but merely good night. Good night, Wingate. Good night, Philip. We pause briefly from our story. Exchange professors starring Victor Matour to bring you an important message from our government. Attention, veterans. The U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force have a special message for you. Former servicemen with military occupational specialties like radio, radar, electronics, and other critical categories who are interested in returning to active duty on a regular or reserve status are urged to find out about the special enlistment opportunities now available. Get full details about these opportunities today at your nearest U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force recruiting station. The curtain rises on Act Two of Exchange Professors starring Victor Matour as Dr. Philip Clark. Dr. Philip Clark, Exchange Professor to the University of Bristol, has managed to salvage a few precious days at Gates College in order to be near Paula Wingate, the British professor with whom he is exchanging. The days pass quickly. On the evening before his scheduled departure for England, Dr. Clark calls to pick up the lovely Miss Wingate. As he approaches her apartment, he bumps into an extremely irate Professor Quinton who is going the other way. Well, Quinton? Joe? Is that a nice sort of greeting for a colleague? You're no colleague of mine. What's the matter? Did Wingate tell you she's going out with me tonight? Yes, she informed me. You've certainly monopolized her. When are you leaving for England? Tomorrow. Oh, thank heaven. You couldn't possibly make it tonight? And ruin Wingate's evening never. You're impossible. Good night. Good night, Quinton. Oh, hello, Philip. Come in. Thanks. May I say that you look enchanting? You're very kind. Or is there a better word? Did you see Professor Quinton? Yes, I run into him. Hmm. Roses again tonight from Quinton? Aren't they lovely? Yes. Must be three dozen. All these flowers every night, Quinton, is treating you like a coarse girl. Now, that isn't very kind. Professor Quinton has been most considerate. And I find his family quite fascinating. Oh. Why, did you know that Paul Revere stabled his horse with a great, great, great uncle of Professor Quinton's? Yes, and the stable boys used to look at Paul Revere's horse and Quinton's uncle and wonder which one to saddle. Philip, that is not nice, and you know it. Seriously, I mean no disrespect to the Quintins. They're indeed a formidable clan in our state. I just wonder... What? ...whether I should leave you to him for a year. He'll have you up to Boston, meeting them all. I just wonder what a poor, honest PhD will have after leaving you to him and to them for a year. That's a year off, Philip. Let's get back to the present now, tonight. Very well. What are we going to do? Why, I thought you had made the plans. So I did. Very elaborate they are. Tell me while I get my wrap. Well, I thought we'd have a nice, quiet dinner somewhere. Yes. Then drive up to the observatory. You couldn't have made better plans. Philip, I think you should... Gouse the lights! ...see what I mean. Okay. You always forget. So I do. One thing, however, Wingate. Yes. I will not soon forget these few brief days that I've known you. Nor I, Philip. You know, I kick like a Texas steer when President Carter, I'd insisted that I stay over a few days to welcome you to the campus. Of course, Prexy was expecting a man. I know. Just think what I would have missed had I gone. And I... Wingate, do you mean that? Of course. Look, the moon has risen. I'm not interested in the moon. It's so beautiful. You're so beautiful. Please, Philip. Wingate, whether you know it or not, you've got a poor but honest Ph.D. mad about you. Oh, Phil. Kiss me, Wingate. Wingate. I love you. I was born to you. Wingate, I love you. I was praying for you to say that. Say it again. I love you. That will have to last for a whole year. I know. I mean, no, I won't go through with it. What are you talking about? I'm not going to England.  Your plane leaves in the morning. Not with me on it. I'm not going to leave you here for a whole year. Where are you going now? I'm going to take you home, and I'm going to talk to Prexy. But there's no little time. I'm afraid it's impossible. Nothing's impossible, Wingate, to a man in love? Forgive me, Mrs. Carright, for calling at this late hour, but I must see the president. Well, this is the worst time you could call. Oh, here he comes now. Excuse me. What in the world do you mean calling on me at this hour? Why, it's 9.15. Oh, forgive me, Prexy. I can't forgive you. I was watching Hoppy, most fascinating episode so far. The villain had him clinging to a rock with his fingertips over a chasm 10,000 feet deep, and with a leer on his face, he was about to squirt lubricating oil into Hoppy's fingers. Prexy, this is a very vital matter. I thought you sailed for England two days ago. Well, no. First, I decided to fly, and just tonight I decided I'm not going. Come again? I said I'm not going.  Why? Because I'm in love with Paula Wingate.  I mean, it happened so quickly. You're telling me. Well, I'm delighted for you. Then you will send an alternate. Impossible. Prexy, nothing is impossible to a man in love. This is impossible, and I refuse to discuss it further. It would mean getting the approval of Governor Winton, the head of our trustees. There's the relationship of the two schools involved, and it's absurd to try anything so fantastic at such a late hour. But look, if you would like now... Besides, the years wait will do you good. You're so impetuous, Phillip. Please, Prexy, look here. The matter is closed. Good night, Phil. Dear, is the commercial over yet? Has he started to squirt the oil? Nothing is impossible, Wingate, except getting somebody on that plane in my place. President Cartwright said no, didn't he? Yeah, and capital letters. I knew he would. Oh, maybe he's right. It wouldn't necessitate the approval of Governor Winton. It's very late to be making changes. Still, I thought Prexy just might go to bat for me. I will never understand how the president could have expected a man, especially since I sent my picture. Just a minute. Do you mean you sent a picture of yourself? It's a requirement of the exchange. Didn't you send a picture? So help me, I did. Well, excuse me. I'm going to have words with Prexy Cartwright. Wait, Phillip. A great matchmaker, this Dan Cupid. Masquerading as a college president is going to give me out of the exchange. Well, I... Didn't Wingate send you her picture? Didn't she? Well, I... Didn't you plan the whole thing? Well, no, I... Oh, trapped. Yeah, you certainly are, and you're going to call Governor Winton right now. Why, it's nearly 2 a.m. No one ever calls him at this late hour, even to tell him he's been re-elected. Come on, come on. Start putting a call through. I'll get on the other line. Well, prepare yourself for an explosion. But we should send an alternate governor. Why should we? Because, Phillip, that is, Dr. Clark has been conducting a serious experiment here at the college. I want to keep him here. Yes, sir, I'm on another line, Governor. So, you've been conducting an experiment? Yes, sir. And what made you? It's an important experiment in human relationships. Been working hard? Oh, I've done considerable night work, sir. Does it look promising to you? Highly promising, sir, if I can but continue it. Where? I've got to send. Who are we going to send, Phillip? Why, the second highman, Quinton. Why, we can send Professor Quinton, Governor. Quinton? Yes. Well, it's a shame to do that to the University of Bristol, but perhaps the circumstances allow it. You have my approval for the change. Well, thank you, Governor. Now, all we've got to do is convince Quinton. Come right into my study, Quinton. Well, you certainly must have something important to discuss, getting me out of bed at 5 a.m. Well, you might want to get ready for a quick trip. There's good news I'm about to spring on you. Take a trip. I don't want to go anywhere. Hello, Quinton. What are you doing here? Oh, hasn't Plexi told you? I'm bowing out. I'm going to let you have the exchange professorship to the University of Bristol. I just obtained the Governor's approval. Oh, no, you don't. No, no. Phillip just wants to get me out of the way so he can have the field with Paula Wingate all to himself. Is that bad? It so happens, Plexi. I have decided that with careful training, Paula Wingate might be suitable to don my socks. Oh, no. To carry on in the Quinton tradition. Well, for heaven's sakes. Now things are in a stew. I wish there was someone here who would show some loyalty towards this college. Excuse me, Phillip. There is someone here who wants to see you. Coming. Excuse me a minute, Plexi. And are you bottle-bagged? Bounder. Oh, Phillip. Paula. I had to rush over to tell you. I tried to call you, but the phone was busy. We've just had a long talk with Governor Whitten. Phillip, I didn't tell you, but tonight, after it seemed hopeless for you to stay here, I cable the university to see if it wouldn't be possible to send an alternate to take my place. Yes. So that I could be in Bristol with you. Well, I got my answer. And the university has accepted the proposal. Wonderful, Paula. I merely have to pay for my alternate's passage and, of course, remain here until he arrives. Oh, darling, I knew we were winners from the beginning. Kiss me. Yes, Phillip. Now, excuse me just a minute. I've got to say something to them inside. Gentlemen. Magna est veritas et spray wallebit. Truth is mighty and will prevail. I succumb to the honor of the college and the integrity of love. I'm going to Bristol. The curtain falls in the final act of the strange professor. Our star, Victor McTour, will return for a curtain call after this timely message from Wendell Niles. Young man, volunteer today for enlistment in the U.S. Army or the U.S. Air Force. The Army and the Air Force wish to meet their manpower requirements with a greatest possible number of volunteers. Hundreds of jobs in a wide variety of career fields in both the Army and Air Force are open to volunteers who can qualify. If you are single and between the ages of 18 and 34, get full details at your nearest U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force recruiting station today. Now, back to our star and your host, C.P. McGregor. Vic, I just saw your new 20th Century Fox picture Stella with Anne Sheridan. Well, did you like it? I certainly did. And something else, I think all your fans are going to like the new Victor McTour. The press is going to have to dig up a new tag to substitute for that hunk of man they hung on you. Maybe something more in the romantic department. Well, that's kind of their problem. My problem is I'm in a romantic slump right now. How's that? Well, when I first came out here, they had my emotion picture romance mixed in with wrestling a dinosaur. Yes, I remember. That was in 1 million B.C. That's right. Then in Samson, Delilah, my romance wound up with me wrestling a lion. And in my last picture, I wrestled Anne Sheridan. You call that a romantic slump? No, C.P. What I call a slump is that there was no catch to it. I have a job on a mass. Oh, say, C.P. By the way, I remember that this broadcast goes overseas through AFRS. And I'd like to tell the boys that my old uniform still fits, and they'll know what I mean. I'm sure they will. Incidentally, Vic, we're going to have a fine star coming next week, Brenda Marshall. Say, she's great. So is her husband, Bill Holden. What's the story about? Well, Victor, and ladies and gentlemen, Brenda Marshall will star in an action drama called The Gold Digger and the Minor. This is the story of the West in the never-ending search for gold. A girl graduate mining engineer desperate for a job takes over a geology assignment to relocate a lost vein. She not only rediscovers gold, but a plot involving theft and murder and learns that the bottom of a mineshaft is no place for an ambitious girl engineer when a potential murderer is at the controls of the elevator. That's one I won't miss. Well, so long, CP, and thanks for inviting me over again. Goodbye, Vic, and thanks for joining us. We'll see you there next week, ladies and gentlemen, when Brenda Marshall joins us to star in an exciting story, The Gold Digger and the Minor. The next week, then, this is CP McGregor saying thanks for listening and cheerio from Hollywood. We're here for the courtesy of the Hollywood coordinating committee which arranges for the appearance of all stars on this program. That script was by Rich Hall of the music of Eddie Dunstetter. This program was transcribed in Hollywood for release at this time. Wendell Nile speaking.


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Not everyone, Sam here with late in sports cards, doing 22, 23, Panini Prism Collegiate draft hobby and 21, 22 mosaic, fast break, basketball hobby, five box mixer, number six random team style. There's a look again at your random results. As always, you can find these on the website under the results tab as well as the link that's in chat. Hi, there you go, Michael. Let's do it, guys. Yeah, thank you again. We're going to run a full sellout promo tonight. Top three winners will each get $100 in break credit, so not too bad. Not too shabby at all. All right, guys, we will start with prism draft. Again, any, what's it what I'm looking for? Guys who are still in college will be a random to all at the end, so I'll have real GM next to me, ready to go. Silver, Jabari Smith for the Rockets. Purple Ice, Justin Manea. He was somewhere. That's sensational signatures $2.99 for Providence. Let me look that up really quick. Justin Manea. I think it was like Minnesota or something. Real GM, real GM. Charlotte, Charlotte, that's going to the Hornets. Going to the Hornets. That's one there. We got Lonzo, as well as a red Larry Bird to $2.99. Walker Kessler Rookie. There's Devin Booker, widescreen on the hyper, I can think of that for a second. Wendelmore, and play Thompson. Christian Coloco, Ron Harper, Silver, Chris Paul, nice one there. We've got Zach Eadie. I know for a fact he will be a random to all at the end, he's still at Purdue, 7'4", Purdue, Center, Zach Eadie. Johnny Davis, Evan Mobley, both on the hypers. Jaden Ivey, horizontal, widescreen, Jaden Hardy, Max Christie, and Zach Levine. Yes. Wade, there's a Silver Orlando Robinson. We've got Silver, Evan Batty for Colorado, let's see, Evan Batty, undrafted, play to Colorado, play to Colorado, play to Colorado, international, international, international.  Silver, Jerry West. There's a Blue, Peyton Watson, I think he's in the NBA, it's a 149 for UCLA, that's a color match with UCLA. Yes, yeah, I got the giveaway info, yep, yes I did, for the Nuggets, Denver Nuggets, Peyton Watson. So top three in the giveaway, I'll get 100 credit each, Kawhi Leonard Hyper, David Roddy, and Jason Tatum on the Purple Ice, horizontal to 149, nice one there as well as a Jason Tatum 2013 throwback, very cool. Jaylen Brown and Brandon Ingram, so I will also do a random at the end for all of the autos as well as an additional random that will be for, yeah, I should be able to add the credit, yeah, if not I'll just figure it out. That was Nuggets, Nuggets, thank you sir, sorry guys, waiting on Forrest taxed exactly how to do it, but I know exactly, I know what you're talking about, know what you're talking about, yeah, through the Glow app, yeah, Cortese ran me through it once, so I should be able to be all good with that. Back end of the site, yeah, Silver, Deer and Fox, as well as a Purple Ice, Jordan Hall for St. Jude's, nice one there, St. Jude's, that is Jordan Hall, good God, I think this is St. Joseph's, yeah, this is gonna be the Spurs, this is going to the Spurs right here, customer email search it and then add points to the account, perfect, thank you Sean, there's Jaylen Durand and Pascal Siakam on the orange, nice one there, 249, Joel Embiid, Hyper Joel Embiid, Osemein Zhang and Peyton Watson, Sean Bochang, we got a gold Sean, Silver, Andrew Nemhardt, come on baby, be a big gold, gold, Colin Castleton for the University of Florida, chomp on baby, see where Colin Castleton is rocking here, oops, oops, what happened, okay, Colin Castleton, Florida, let's see, still in college at Michigan currently, or no, still actually at Florida, fifth year guy, that is gonna be numbered, seven of ten again, that'll be a random to all at the end, I'll explain exactly how the randoms will go as well, D-weight, we got a Mojo 2013 prism, that's gonna be Christian Braun, what a pack this is, Mojo, Palo Ben Carro, boom, 16 of 25, 2013 throwback for the magic, there we go Orlando, it's going to Alex P, congrats buddy, it's a big time card right there, big time card, let's go, that's the Yaniset right there, Chet Holmgren, Clyde Drexler, how we going Rich, later Rich, Rollins, Shaq, Silver Zion, nice one there, we've got a Purple Ice, Savion Flag, I think he was, I think he's overseas, I don't know if he played anywhere in America, that's nice, yep, no NBA affiliation, so that'll be to 99, Purple Ice, go and rent to all at the end, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Purple, Dominique, 275, Jamerant, Instant Impact, Paolo, Paolo's sick dude, Bajie, Jimmy Butler, Silver, Chuck, got a Blue, Bryce McGowan's, nice one there for Nebraska, forgot exactly where he is, right, Gowans, Hornets, Bryce McGowan's going to the Hornets, nice one there, Jake Laravia, Steph Curry, there's a Chet Holmgren Orange to 49, man what a box this was, rats on that there, Thunder, Donovan Mitchell, Jaden Hardy and Paolo George, me one sec guys, I want to filter out some of these inserts, inserts and base, oh perfect, they're all inserted out, wait who went first, Trey Murphy, oh Brawny stuff's going to be insane when it comes out, shorts, it's going to be a crazy sec again guys, oh that's cool, that's funny, Silver, Charles Barkley again, there's a Darren Sebron for NC State, Darren Sebron or Darien Sebron, Pelicans, Darien Sebron Pelicans, that was cool, he just did the double honey dip, Scotty Barnes, Snake Skin, Chuck, nice one there, Malkai Branham, Fireworks, Silver Jaw, Paolo Rookie and Wendelmore, Silver Zion, we've got, Blue is David McCormick for Kansas, David McCormick, David McCormick, Minnesota, Timberwolves G League, let me just double check, make sure he wasn't anywhere else, Minnesota was his summer league, Jeremy Sochan, John Morant, Fireworks Trey, double honey dip is pretty impressive, he is, I think Timberwolves, yes Timberwolves summer league, Silver Andrew Nemhart, we've got Grant Golden on the red auto, that is 26 out of 199 for the Richmond Spiders, Denver Nuggets, most recently signed a contract with the Denver Nuggets, that'll be Denver, unless he is Grand Rapids Gold, let me just double check, that sounds like it would be, yep Nuggets, there's Anthony Edwards, Red, Jalen Brown, to 299, that Edie, Devin Booker, face, Edie will be randomly split, Silver, Kyrie Irving, Alondes Williams for Wake Forest, 36 out of 49, nice one there, John is just a hater man, Long Island Nets, that'll go with Brooklyn, going to the Nets, Jake LaRavia, Steph Curry, Blue, Johnny Davis for the Wizards to 199, Devin Booker, yes, Charles Barkley and Terry Eason, Sims, Mosaic fast break, let me just double check, yes, 21-22 Mosaic fast break, yes, he's like a strong guy, he's jacked, so base is technically for prism randomly split, so that's all the base, these are just a few inserts that were in there too, Disco, James Book Knight, Russ Thiermasters, Josiah Williams-Russon, Dave Yon Mitchell, Nikolay Yolkich, Silver, Luca for the Mads, Chris Middleton Disco, Franz Wagner Rookie, Cam Thomas Rookie, and Scotty Parnes debut, good pack there, here comes Mack MacLung, oh boy, G-League Rookie there, all NBA is Bradley Giel, Cam Thomas Disco, he's gonna dunk over two people, Josh Giddy Rookie, John Linkominga, that's impressive, look what he's trying to do, Blue, Chris Boucher, 285, yep, oh man, Keon Johnson that was impressive, Greg Brown, wow, that was really impressive, oh my god, oh my lord, through the legs, dude, Dave Yon Mitchell National Pride, Book Knight, Zach Levine, yeah, Dame won it, Dame won the three point, wow, that was impressive, oh man, what's up Kenzie, there's James Harden, Gold, use of Nurkitch, Gold Disco, that is one of ten, big Nurk for the Trailblazers, from Junior, Scotty Parnes, let's see the Cam Thomas Disco, oh is it over there, let me see it, yep, variation on the Disco Cam Thomas, that was impressive, that was wicked impressive, Disco, Devin Booker, Moses Moody, Duarte, Steph Curry, yeah, There was a bunch of endorsements and he went off in the last, dude, yeah, over basically one and a half people, Shailen Green Rookie, Evan Wobbly Rookie, Donvin Mitchell, where's Pascal Siakam with the camcorder, I want to see that again, there's Nicola Yokech, Stairmasters Disco, Josh Christopher, that was really impressive, that was like, scarily impressive right there, Blue, Franz, nice one there for the magic, it's gonna be numbered 47 out of 85, Gratz on that Orlando, there you go, Alex P again, got Russ, and Fast Break Auto is gonna be Marcus Camby for the Nuggets, I love that, that's so sick, congrats Dustin, there you go, Marcus Camby, Nuggets Auto, that's sick, Romelo, Dallin O'Binton, dude, Mac McClung's nuts was, or dunk was insane, it was absolutely nuts, they should have, I agree, they should have, absolutely should have, fire, disgusting, filthy, nasty, insane, Greg, insane, Jalen Suggs, Remo Lebron, there's a Blue Kelly Ubrej Jr. for the Hornets to 85, Santy Aldama, Jalen Suggs, Johnny Kominga, Chris Duarte, nice one there on the base, Disco, Rising Star Suggs, Luka, Trey Murphy, Silver, Jalen Suggs, National Pride, Disco, Jay Sean Tate, Moses Moody, Benton Grimes, Jimmy Butler, Trey Mann, Disco, there's a Mobley, I believe that's Variation Disco, yep, Variation Disco for the Cubs, nice, Miles McBride, Garza, Shengun, Miles Bridges, there's a Purple Malik Beasley for the Timberwolves, 46 out of 50, so there's Michael H, Bones Highland, Evan Mobley, Dane, Powered Moments in Time for the Magic, Trey, Io Desumu, Jalen Johnson, Joel Mb, Allambia, Terry, Murphy, Josh Christopher, Richard Jackson for the Clips, Jared Butler, 3 to go guys, good luck, there's a Blue Staff, nice one there for the Warriors, 40 out of 85, that's on that Golden State, Royce C, there you go Royce, Noice for Royce, Kate Cunningham, Frans debut, D-Wade MVP, Jared Allen, there's a Serunis Marcellonis for the Warriors on a fast brake auto, I like how they have a different checklist than those students and know how do they always do, not know how to, you know what I mean, Janis, Shengun, Kisvert, Lamello and Dallin O'Benton, I'm gonna do it for the break guys, do a quick recap here for, or no we gotta do a random first, so we have four cards to random, we have Zach Edie, Evan Batty, Gold, Colin Castleton, and Savion Flag, so the top four, gonna put all the names, the top four we'll receive again in order, so number one we'll get Edie, it was the first one pulled, number two we'll get Batty, three we'll get Castleton, and four we'll get Flag, just in the order that it was pulled, so let me get these teams copied in, all right guys gonna roll the dice and we're gonna random, six times, one, two, three, four, five, and six, got Jazz getting Edie, let's go into the Jazz, we've got the Nets are getting Evan Batty, Pistons, Colin Castleton, and next we'll get Savion Flag, all right let's do a quick recap here, got Savion Flag, Colin Castleton, Evan Batty, Zach Edie, we had Serenus Marshalonis for the Warriors, Marcus Camby for the Nuggets, Alandes Williams, Grant Golden, David McCormack, there in Sebron, Bryce McGowan's nice one there, Jordan Hall, Peyton Watson, Justin Minaya, and a Palo Bancaro, 2013 throwback rookie, Mojo 16 of 25 for the Magic, I'll do it for the break guys, thanks again for the fill, next up we got another one of these.


Hi, it's Doug Balshaw, MoodleNet Lead here at Moodle HQ. It's the start of August 2018, and this is some work that we've been doing without Landish around UX Milestone 2, and this is Screencast 3. So we're gonna get started and have a look at the sign-up process for a new user called Frankie. She's gonna click on Create New Account, and she's gonna fill in just the minimum amount of information that she needs. So she's going to fill in her name, her profile image, and she's gonna select her emoji ID, which if you remember from the previous Screencast, this is your permanent identification, visual identification to other users. So you might change your profile image and or your username, but this stays the same. So she shuffles until she finds one that she likes, clicks, accept the code of conduct from MoodleNet, and then presses Next. The subsequent screen for Frankie allows her to find things which are gonna be useful for her particular subject or discipline. So she starts searching for sports science, she finds the tag, she clicks on there, and then she's presented with other tags which might narrow down her search. So she clicks on Fitness and some other ones just to narrow down the things that she might find useful, and then she scrolls down and presses Next. She's taken to communities. Communities curate collections of resources, and this community that she's come across, BTEC Adventurers, looks inviting. BTEC is the qualification that she's teaching. So she goes to there and she goes down and she sees a particular collection, BTEC Outdoor Adventure Sport. Well, that's what she's teaching. So that's perfect. She goes into there and lo and behold, Will Metropolitan College is where she's teaching and these are actually her colleagues. So this is perfect. This is what she wants. So she follows that immediately. That's what she wants. She goes down, has a look at the resources. That's great. She notices that there's a notification. So she clicks on the notification. Yes, the Moodlebot tells her that she's followed the collection BTEC Outdoor Adventure Sport, but also it tells her that her profile is not yet complete. Well, she wants to complete it. So she clicks on there and she sees that, oh, that's quite sparse for other users who want to find out more about me. So she clicks on the Edit Profile icon and she changes her banner image. She can't change her emoji ID. That's now fixed, but she can change her role, the organization she works for and her location. So she updates those and she goes down to Save and there we are. That's Frankie's profile. And even though she hasn't joined a community yet, she hasn't added any social profiles. She has got a list of tags which are telling other people what she's interested in but also surfacing collections and communities which might be of interest to her. So it's a simple workflow, but hopefully one which is going to be useful. If you've got any comments on this, please do let us know either in the comments section of this YouTube video or anywhere where it's embedded, either on the blog or on the Moodle.org forum.


The approval of a Bitcoin spot ETF in the United States has never seemed so close, and that would be a massive game changer for crypto. Financial advisors manage about 30 trillion in assets. That's why it's a big deal, is what the ETF represents. It's a bridge to all this wealth. Last month, the world's largest asset manager, BlackRock, filed an application for a Bitcoin spot exchange-traded fund with the SEC. That triggered a major crypto rally and a new wave of applications from other major firms. Still, the SEC has so far rejected all applications for spot Bitcoin ETFs. Its chair, Gary Gensler, has spearheaded an unprecedented crackdown on the crypto industry in recent times. So, how likely is the approval of a spot Bitcoin ETF in the United States? What would be its impact on the market? And would it be beneficial for the long-term goals of crypto? To find out, I talked to Eric Balchunas, a senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence. I'm Giovanni. On this show, we challenge the ideas that shape the world of crypto. In each episode, we assess a crypto narrative, a macroeconomic outlook, or a potentially disruptive technology. Only the most solid ideas will make it to the other side. Why would the approval of a Bitcoin ETF be such a big deal? Yeah, the big deal is that an ETF is the platform or vehicle that so many financial advisors prefer. It's like back in the day, millennials prefer getting their music through iTunes or digital, whereas the boomers still use compact disks. People just like things delivered in a certain way, and the ETF is the format in which the boomers and the financial advisors prefer their investments delivered. And this matters because financial advisors manage about $30 trillion in assets. And a lot of that is the kind of people who are a little on the more wealthy side and who need help, estate planning and taxes. And this would open up all that money.  But even like 1% or 2% of $30 trillion is a lot of money, right? And that's a big deal. That's why it's a big deal, is what the ETF represents. It's a bridge to all this wealth. The big game changer seems to be the move of BlackRock, which is the world's largest asset manager. It has around $9 trillion worth of assets under management. So we know that the SEC has a very bad record in terms of its relationship with the ETFs, ETF applications. It rejected around, I think, 30 applications in the last decade for Bitcoin spot ETF. The first one was filed by the Winklevoss twins around 10 years ago. And so why would this time be different? Well, that's a great question. And our odds of approval within the next, we'll say this year, is about 50%. But that means 50%, it won't get approved, right? And that 50% note won't get approved is because the SEC hasn't said anything new.  This is purely something BlackRock is seeing. So BlackRock, this is why this matters. They're very smart and they don't just throw filings out willy nilly. They are a very high level, not messing around asset manager, right? So they clearly see something out there that they think they can get through the regulators. And so the original flying from BlackRock, if you read it, said NASDAQ and Coinbase will be working together. And our ETF will be the one that's listed. So when I see NASDAQ and BlackRock clearly having some Zoom calls on this, I'm sure, and going through their checklist, they're not filing unless they really think this has a really good shot. So that's what's different this time. Everybody else kind of is just jumping back in line. There's nothing too new there. It wasn't like fidelity or wisdom trees filing raised our odds. We went from 1% to 50% basically on BlackRock. But now that we've talked to ARC a little more, we've had some work discussions, we're more even at 51. Like if we had to pick 49 or 51, we would go 51. The only question is timing. Well, I still think it's 50% odds this year. It goes up dramatically if we go into early next year. Because the way the filings are, the SEC can delay and delay and delay. And their final decision, the first final decision they have to make is in early January with ARC. The next ones would be like March, April. So if they punted, punted, punted, and then approved that final decision, that would put us into next year a little bit, but not by much. So I, like I said, I think the odds are good that we get there. Okay. So ARC has this basically time advantage over the rest. But BlackRock has the big name behind it. Yeah. I mean, that this is, this is like an ARC Surils, you know, small company, indie, independent. BlackRock's the big behemoth. It's, you know, a lot of this is just so fascinating because there's so many unknowns.  So like Bitcoin will get all these new investors, but the asset manager who offers the ETF, if you're out first, or maybe second, you know, if you're early, it's usually very good. It's hard to penetrate the first couple to get all the liquidity. And so they know that this is a almost near lock of a successful product. So they're all scrambling to be first and who will win? We, you know, we don't know. We saw that a couple of years ago when the Bitcoin future ETF was approved, that brought in, in a very few days, if I'm not mistaken, billions of new capital into the Bitcoin market. What would be the potential here in terms of capital inflow that we would see in case of an approval? So I think, A, because of the SBF FTX scandal, it wouldn't be as big of a launch as I think it would have if it was before that. Like in the, you know, 2021 era, if the spot Bitcoin went there, I think it would be, you know, 10 billion in the first week. I think this will be a slightly more measured launch. I think because of SBF FTX, it could take years before some of these boomer types are really going to get over that. Over time though, I have no doubt that spot Bitcoin ETFs will crush the futures ETFs in assets. Remember gold ETFs, I think they're somewhere around 70 billion, but they've been around for a while. So I can see crypto ultimately getting up to about where gold is after a couple of years. When we saw that BlackRock filed this application a couple of weeks ago, the price of Bitcoin spiked up. And since then, it has been quite stable around the 30,000 benchmark. Do you think that was it? That was the market reaction? Or we're going to see a bigger reaction in case it gets approved? That's a great question because, you know, there's that whole phrase on Wall Street, which is buy the rumor, sell the news, right? So people are buying the rumor, obviously, right? When Bitto launched the futures ETF, that marked the top actually. This is actually before FTX, but right around then Bitcoin went down a little bit. So there might have been a similar situation of buying the rumor, selling the news with the futures ETF. Long term, if you have more of the mainstream money, if you have Bitcoin in a vehicle or platform that a lot of people prefer, you're going to get some adopters, and that's obviously going to mean buy orders for Bitcoin. If you buy the ETF, the ETF market makers have to go buy Bitcoin. Could there be like a sell the news drop after the ETF comes out? Sure. But certainly over time, if I'm a crypto person, again, I would just look at this as a long-term view, and I would go watch Larry Fink's interview yesterday on Fox Business. Listen to this guy talk. He's the guy who runs the biggest asset manager on planet earth. It's not just the ETF. He's very bullish overall. And he tends to set the tone with a lot of other wealthy managers. I wouldn't be surprised if we see, we've already seen fidelity sort of get involved. And so you get these bigger mainstream companies, the amount of money that they run, have access to and are trusted by is just massive. Coinbase is playing a big role in all these filings. The SEC sued Coinbase not long ago together with Binance. So it seems to be in a bad position here. And why do you think they picked Coinbase? Don't you think that Coinbase could actually decrease the chances that the ETF is going to be green-lighted at the end? Yeah, it's a good question. I get this question a lot. Two things on that. First, I think the SEC, I think they view Coinbase as the least dirty shirt. It's not like they love Coinbase, but relative to Binance they do. Now Coinbase also is working closely with BlackRock, not just now, but they're in a partnership with them to custody other assets for them. So BlackRock must see something in Coinbase. That's legitimate. And then NASDAQ comes in, NASDAQ must see something. So NASDAQ and BlackRock are well aware that the SEC suing Coinbase, and yet they're still going to work with them. My guess is BlackRock, NASDAQ see how they can help Coinbase of all to the point where the SEC is comfortable with them. A lot of people are concerned that the original ethos of Bitcoin would be ruined or affected by this. Because what they say is that Bitcoin is created to be a self-owned asset. So people should take ownership of that Bitcoin. This was the original ethos of the technology. By introducing this spot, people are going to be incentivized to delegate ownership to basically these custodians. They won't own directly Bitcoin. They will just get exposure to it. So in that case, the whole ethos of Bitcoin will get a bit lost. What do you think about it? Yeah, it's a fair point. I mean, you see some of these people who are real, they would be trashing Larry Fink two years ago. Now they love him.  And here comes literally the system. And now you're cheering this on. There's always been this tension between the ethos and just the price going up. And I think ultimately, if the price goes up, that cures the ethos internal dilemma for a lot of people. Even if Larry Fink went nuts and BlackRock went bankrupt, your Bitcoin is safe with the custodian. Those are the checks and balances with a regulated fund like an ETF. That's why the custodian is picked and the custodian stores it. And so that's really great. It's physically backed. And that's what makes the ETF different than something like an FTAC. And so I would almost consider just the ETF, just almost like another exchange, just one that's way more legitimate. If I had to put a number on it, three-fourths of people like it. It seems like 25% are skeptical. There's maybe 5% that purely hate it. Thanks a lot, Eric, for being on our show. That was a cool conversation. Thank you very much. It was great to join you.