Baydee Show! The greatest wild animal trainer, Clyde Baydee, with an exciting adventure from his brilliant career. The circus means thrills, excitement, snarling, jungle beasts. The circus means fun for young folks and old. But under the big top, you see only a part of the story. The real drama comes behind the scenes, where 500 people live as one family, where Clyde Baydee constantly risks death in the most dangerous act on earth. This master of the big cat has journeyed to Africa and India, hunting down his beasts in their native jungle. All of this is part of the Clyde Baydee story. Now here is Clyde's story of adventure in Australia. Following an expedition to Borneo and Samatra a few years ago, Clyde and his wife Harriet visited that strange land down under Australia. It was late afternoon of their second day in Sydney, largest and most beautiful city of the island continent, when they heard a knock at the door of their hotel. Yeah, I'll see you there, honey. Bye, bye, Joe. It's good to see you. Woody? Why Woody? I didn't know you were in Sydney. Come on in. Thanks, old man. Who is it, dear? It's Australia's leading explorer and sportsman, honey, Woody Sutton. Man. The same, Harriet. How are you? Oh, fine, Woody. What a wonderful surprise. Yes, we heard you were on an expedition in Malaya while we were in Borneo. Oh, that was a couple of months ago. I've been back here for some time now. Well, where are you going next? To Central Australia. What? You're kidding now. No, I'm not kidding. I've been commissioned to go into the bush and get some film showing what life among the Oruntas is like. And what prequel are the Oruntas? Well, Harriet, the Oruntas are perhaps the most primitive people left on Earth. Civilization has hardly touched them. It hasn't changed them in the slightest. They are the true Appalrigines, little more than savages. And you're going into their wild and woolly country to take pictures of them for the history books. That's roughly what it amounts to, Clyde. Matter of fact, that's my main reason in coming to see you two. Oh, what do you mean?  He won't be able to make it. When I heard that you folks were here, the thought occurred to me that you might like to take his place. But would he? Of course, I realized at short notice I'd plan to leave tomorrow. And there's another fellow who would like to... Clyde, would we have time, do you think? Well, I don't know. Our boat sails in a week. I plan to be back here in five days. You see, I've chartered the plane to fly to Alice Springs and back. Well, in that case, maybe we could make it. And we could take pictures, too. We have our movie equipment with us. I'm sure you'll get some valuable film if you're game for some excitement. Tell me, Woody, these Arunter aren't headhunters, are they? No. I understand they're not too friendly and most unpredictable and superstitious. I don't expect any serious trouble from them. My golly, Woody, you got me all excited here. Which means we will go with you. Good. We'll want to travel as light as possible, but don't forget to bring your rifles. They might come in handy before we're through. Blind Beatty will return in just a moment. Now back to Blind Beatty's story, Adventure in Australia. Here we are. The pilot gave me this map of the territory. Now, here's Alice Springs, just a small town with an airstrip. Well, it looks as if it's in the exact center of Australia. It is. And how far from this Alice Springs is the Arunter country? Well, over here is where we're going. And I could learn if we go down the Todd River by boat, we should run across one of their villages in a day or so. And then we trust they'll show us some hospitality. Right. Well, at least we won't have to worry about a lot of wild animals. They will eat right again. Except, of course, for crocodiles, these rivers have plenty of them. Oh, pilot, how soon will we be landing at Alice Springs? No matter now, Mr. Sesson, we are making good time for you today, now. Thank you. We'll have time to locate a boat and get it loaded so we can start first thing in the morning. By this time tomorrow we should be getting close to one of the Arunter villages. Woody, I'm beginning to see these Arunter as just only in your imagination. We've been going all day and not a sign of human life yet. Be patient, Harriet. We'll find them. Or they'll find us, maybe. Look, there's another crocodile turning itself on the bank there. Yeah. You weren't exaggerating about the number and size of those babies, Woody.  They're tough as they all are, Harriet. Do you ever shoot one? Yes, ever, love them. But it's not easy. Don't they slip into the water before you can get close enough to hit them? They try to. The best way is to come straight at them in a boat. They get confused for a few seconds, and if you're lucky you can get in the shot. Where do you try to hit them?  We'll have to go at it on the return trip. Hello. What's this ahead? Hey, some boats and the river bank and some people. Ah, at last. They see us. And they're all carrying seers. They don't look too friendly, do they? No, no, they don't. We'll try to get on the good side of the encotter, the headman. I think when we give him that mirror and hunting knife he'll give us the run of the village. Here comes the encotter. The one where the wooden spike through his nose. Good heavens. And he's covered with scars like there is. Yes, they're not exactly pretty, are they? I didn't expect much, but these people are even worse than I thought possible, while they're a little more than animals. Hey, wait. He's holding up his hand for quiet. Call her up! Who are the Paloma? That's the white man one. White man friend. White man come in peace encotter. White man, no friend. White man go. Ah, came out of all of us. Friendly devil. Encotter. White man bring gifts. Here. For encotter. Oh. I see. He saw himself in the mirror. That's enough to scare anybody. That might do the trick. He's fascinated by the mirror. He likes the knife, too. Keep your fingers crossed now. Hey, I keep. But white man go. No stay. But encotter. We want to stay just two, maybe three days. Then we go. Go now. Or won't us not want white man. White man go. But see here it's. Huck a willow for a darser. I guess it's no use. The beggar won't give us a break. Oh, that's a shame, Woody. Well, we tried anyway. No matter what did you lose something? No, no. Here they are. Wanted a cigarette. Woody, I just remembered. Your lighter. My cigarette lighter. What about it? Well, maybe if you show the encotter how it makes fire. And give that to him, maybe. Hey, that's a good idea, honey. I drove it nice work at that. Encotter. Look here. White man make magic fire. Yes. Encotter make magic fire, too. Again. Just a moment. White man give you a magic fire maker. If you let us stay. Let white man stay two days. We give Encotter a magic fire maker to keep.  So it was that a small cigarette lighter made the difference between success and failure. The Encotter turned over to us a crude hut and instructed the Arunters to let us have the freedom of their village. They were a surly, unfriendly people, but with the head man on our side they didn't dare make trouble for us. The next morning, the three of us got busy taking pictures and investigating the strange ways and customs of the Arunters. Come along over to this hut just ahead. I'm curious to see inside it. Why? What's it supposed to be? Calling to the Encotter, this is the Devil Devil House. Where they keep their idols and magic charms to protect them from the evil spirits. Well, are you sure it's all right if we go in? I see no reason, why not?  Wish they'd build their doorway. Oh my, it's dark in here. Let's see now. What do you suppose this thing represents? Looks like a wooden shield with a figure carved on the front. That's odd. It's the figure of a crocodile.  That must be what the Encotter was referring to a while ago. The God of the River. Hey, you found out a lot of things when you had your private talk with a head man this morning. What's with this God of the River anyway? It seems there's a small inlet on the bank of the river which forms sort of a pool. From what I could understand, it's inhabited by a giant crocodile which the Oron to believe is an evil spirit. They think it was sent there by an enemy tribe as a curse upon them. Isn't it strange what weird things they believe? But why the human head on this image, I wonder, that just supposed to represent the chief of the enemy tribe.  Well, have they ever tried to kill this crocodile? Oh yes, several of the braver men have tried, but they've all been killed in the attempt. That's not surprising. The spirit be worthless against one of those big cracks. Exactly. Listen, look, someone's coming in. Who is that man? Uh-oh, it must be the medicine man. You better put down that image, Woody. He looks mad. Hey, he is mad. Not just a minute, old timer. What's he trying to say? I don't know. He keeps pointing to that river God thing. Here comes the encounter. Uh-oh, he looks mad too. White man, you made me trouble. You died. Woody, what's he talking about? What do you mean in Qatar? We make no trouble. In Qatar, no white man sent my river God. Now wait a minute here.  We'll return to Clive Beatty in just a moment. And now, back to Clive Beatty and adventure in Australia. Clive and Harriet Beatty with their Australian friend Woody Sutton were deep in central Australia visiting a primitive tribe of savages called the Aruntas. But the day after their arrival, the head man of the tribe suddenly decided that Woody had been sent there by the river God to cause trouble and told the Australian that he must die. Clive, did you find out what it was all about? What the encounter meant by saying Woody had caused big trouble and it had been sent for the river God? Yeah, yeah, I found out. Seems the chief's house burnt to the ground and almost killed his oldest boy. Oh, and he's naming Woody for that. Yes, you see, honey, the boy was fooling with that cigarette lighter he gave the encounter and set fire to the grass roof. Now the whole tribe is convinced that Woody planned the whole thing that this phony river God they're so scared of sent him to destroy the village. But it's fantastic. They can't believe all that. They can't, but they do, and they want to kill him. Where are they holding Woody captive? Can we see him? I'm afraid not, honey. We're lucky they're not holding us, too. Fortunately, they don't connect us with the river God. Well, what do they expect us to do?  I guess that's about it. But I wonder... Tell me, what are you thinking, Clive? About that image in the devil's devil house, the one carved on that shield. The river God? The crocodile with the human head? That's the one. I was just remembering what Woody told us they believed about that crocodile in the river inlet. What good is it to think about those superstitions? None maybe, but on the other hand, it might do a lot of good. What do you mean? If we could kill that croc, wouldn't that prove to them that Woody wasn't an enemy? If they thought the enemy chief died and their troubles were over, they'd have no reason to take revenge on him. Of course. You're right, Clive. Only... Only what? Only killing that crocodile wouldn't be child's play. I know that, but it's sure worth a try. Where are you going, Clive? You wait here, honey. I'll be back in a minute. I'm going to see what the incata thinks of the idea. Why are you not going, White Man? Why are you staying? Listen to me, Incata. I'm trying to save the life of my friend. Your friend must die. My friend is not evil spirit, Incata. He was not sent by river God.   Yes. If you let my friend go. River God cannot be killed. Aruntas have tried. Aruntas always killed by river God. I know that, but I have magic to kill river God, Incata. No. You not kill. But you... A robber! Incata, make better things. You mean you have a better idea?  All right. He will do it then, but I help him.  You've made a deal, Incata. Now, where will we find this river God? Ah, you and friend not go alone. Get away. I get Aruntas men. We go see you kill river God. All right. Now, just let me talk to my friend a minute first. So, he agreed to let me go free if I kill that clock. Is that it, Clyde? That's it. I must say that sounds like a spawning proposition, but will it let me use my rifle? Oh, that's all taken care of. On the way over here, I told Incata you'd have your magic stick, and so would I. He agreed we could use whatever we wanted in killing the river God. Good. Then we should stand a good chance. From what I understand, this big crock has a small inlet pretty much to himself. Lies on the bank, sunning himself every afternoon at this time. We're going to have trouble sneaking up on him with the others around. That is a problem. Now, the Incata agreed to let us use a small boat if we want to. Of course, he'll have some of his men in other boats to keep us from trying to get away down the river. What if we'd try that without Harriet anyway? That may be another reason they wouldn't let her come along. Well, we'd better get going. I'm ready, Clyde. I'm grateful to you for thinking of this. Better wait for the thanks, Woody. I just hope we can do it. Yes, sir. Know what you mean. Woody and I, along with a dozen or so of the Aruntas, made our way through the brush to the river, then up its bank for a quarter of a mile to the inlet of the river God. Cautiously, we slipped from the brush at the edge of the inlet. There, on the other side, sunning himself a few feet from the water, we saw the most tremendous crocodile either of us had ever laid eyes on. There, across water, is River God. Clyde, look at the size of that monster. Well, he'll measure close to 30 feet.  Yes, Incata. We will. What do you think, Woody? I could never surprise him by going around from behind. We'll have to take that small boat and come at him from the front. Okay. Let's get started, shall we? Right. Come along. I just hope he's sleeping soundly. He'll have to be as quiet as a cat, Clyde. He slips into the water before I can get in a shot. I'm sunk. Yes. Well, you get in the boat. I'll take the stern and panel. All right, Clyde. Here we go. Head up the inlet a bit more, Clyde. Then we're right opposite that boat. It's straightforward. Okay. We'll have to speed it up once where Eddon taught him. I'll have only about three or four seconds to get a shot. I'll try to paddle smoothly. Boat's hardly a steady shooting platform. I know. I wish I had my big express rifle instead of this one. Would you rather use mine here? No, no. I'm used to this one. Better take my chances with it. All right, Clyde. Turn toward that bank now. Okay. Get ready. We're fine so far. Just a few more feet, and I'll have a good shot. Woody, look. Look, he's seen or heard us. He's going to try to get to the water. Shoot, man. Shoot. You hit him, Woody? Yes. But the beggar's getting into the water. He's coming right at us. Watch it, Woody. He's coming under the boat. That's Clyde. Watch out for that tail. He's coming out. Shoot, Woody. Shoot. Head out the sewer, Clyde. Woody, he's sinking. He's sinking. Wait, wait. What are you doing, Clyde? Get that rope in the bottom of the boat. Hurry. Wait, Woody. I'm trying to rope into the water. Here's the rope. I got it. Pull on it. Get him. Get back in the boat. There may be other crocs around. Okay. There's a gun. Good grief, man. That was a crazy thing to do. Maybe. Now we've got our dead crocodile show. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. It's not a crocodile show.  There it is, Encarta. Your River God won't cause you any more trouble. Ah, it is good. The white man kept promise white man friend. Are we all pleased to go now, Encarta? Encarta keep promise, too. Eruntas not kill the white man. Ah, that's the best news. I've heard it in quite some time. Let's get going, hurry it and be on our way. But everything's all right now don't you want to stick around another day and finish getting the film far as I'm concerned they can wait I say let's get out of here now. That's why I'm afraid these aren't as might dream up some more weird ideas For instance suppose they get word that the enemy chief didn't die when that river got crocodile did see that's right What do you think it happened then I've got a big idea, but you're right. Let's not wait around to find out Okay, you evil spirit. Let's move Here is the start of our show Clyde Beatty No time was lost in leaving the land of the superstitious or runters and putting an end to my adventure in Australia There'll be another exciting story for you the next time we meet All stories are based upon incidents in the career of the world famous Clyde Beatty and the Clyde Beatty Circus The Clyde Beatty show was produced and transcribed by Shirley Thomas written by Robert T Smith and Frank Hart-Pausig Music composed and conducted by Albert Glasses All names used were fictional and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental This is a Commodore production


We're back. We're live for the two o'clock block. I'm Jay Fidel here on ThinkTech and we're talking today about energy in America, but it's really much more than energy in America. It's about Farsilla and also ascend analytics and talking about energy in Hawaii, but they come from national, in fact, global perspectives. And we have for this discussion, Yusie Haikkonon, Gary Doris, and John Robbins. And let's see, I want to be sure I get the guy who is with analytics and that would be Gary. Okay. And Yusie and John are both from Farsilla.  It's huge. It's global. And it's been around 180 years. And although people in Hawaii may not have heard much of it, it is an enormous company doing enormous things. And in my perception anyway, it is moving fast to deal with global development. Yeah. Yeah. Farsilla is, like you said, over 180 years old Finnish company, originally. And during the last century, Farsilla was very strong in shipbuilding, in engines for ships. And since, I would say, the 1980s also grew very strongly into the power plant business. So at that time, of course, it was quite a lot of business with, I would say, applying the marine engines to the power business, burning heavy fuel, burning gas, etc. Virtualize about five billion, five billion euro, five billion dollar size company, global, really, like you said, Jane. In the marine business, I would say one third of the ships that you see when you go out there, they are surely having virtual engines on board. And in the power business, we've done close to 75,000 megawatts of power plants around the world. And recently, we have really developed not only products, but also the vision of the company. For example, on the energy business side, we are really having the vision today that we want to lead the world to a decarbonized future.  But we know that in the future, we have to develop along with the societies and learn to use those fuels that are available. We are also doing battery storage today, etc. Those things that we think will be needed in the future. Yeah, a moment about Finland. It was six or eight months ago, we had some of the city officials from Helsinki on the show. They were really impressive. And they have a thing in Helsinki called Cities as a Service, C-A-A-S. Very successful. I think it's an exemplar of how the Finns are these days. They're global. They're efficient. They're very advanced. They're pioneers in so many things. And certainly, Francella has done that. I mean, I've seen the pictures of the various ships and marine well ships that you make. And they are very advanced. They're all over the world, every kind of ship, every kind of floating ship you could ever see. They're all there and they're populated everywhere. And from this kind of marine platform, you have decided to go into renewables with a vengeance. You are really tackling that. How long ago did that happen? It sounds like it was a bit of a pivot, but a major pivot by a major corporation indicating a major direction by global companies. Can you talk about the decision and how it's been implemented? Yeah, I would say it started about 15 years ago already when we saw quite a lot of wind power being built in places like Denmark and Germany in Europe. And we saw how certain challenges emerged then when you started to have enough of wind power in the power systems. Gradually, we started to see that the power systems need to change when you add more and more renewables to those. When you add solar and wind, actually the generation will depend on the weather. So with the sunny shiny, you get power, but in the night, you don't get solar power. And the wind conditions, they also depend on the weather. So we saw that operating those power systems, they will bring new challenges. And the traditional power systems, which typically consist of large centralized, quite inflexible power plants that you start and then you run them a year or so. And then you do maintenance. I mean nuclear coal, large gas plants, etc. Those were not a good fit when you start to have more and more solar and wind power in the system. So a few years ago, we decided really that we changed the vision of the company. Like I said, then we have worked now already for 10 years in modeling power systems, using really top softwares in a scientific way to understand what would be the optimal way to decarbonize the power systems. So this is really a strength of Wärtsilä that even though we are an OEM of engines and power plants and ship engines and storage, we are also extremely interested in understanding the future and modeling the future. And we hope of course that by doing that, we would be able to bring forward such technologies, services, softwares, things that will be needed in the future and then maintain our good position in the business. Well, I looked at your website. It's very impressive. Of course, it's impressive on the marine end because that was your calling for many, many, many years and still is. Yeah, you're everywhere. But I looked at the energy side of your website and that's also very impressive.  You're in 50 countries. You have projects going on everywhere. And what touched me was that it's not that you have one single system that you drop in a given location. You're always sensitive to what resources are available in that location, what the needs are in that location, how you can put it together best for that place, which I think is really important. That's a secret sauce as far as I can see. So when we say that you're the Director of Growth and Development at Farsilla Energy, is that a global title? Are you the man you see? This is an America's title. I'm heading this function for the area of Americas, which is South and North and Central American Caribbean. So this is the title and this job contains all these modeling aspects. It contains market development, talking to politicians, etc. It contains the project development activities in the front line and marketing things. So it is more or less everything that takes place before we start actually selling things. So this is a kind of peeking into the future and talking to people about the future very much and this kind of stuff. It certainly is. Not only in the United States, but elsewhere. I mean, I saw your initiative in Europe. Well, it's really everywhere, but Europe has a green energy program. The EU, that's impressive. We talk about that in the U.S., but I'm not sure we can say we have a green energy program just yet. So John Robbins, you are a business development manager at Varsilla Energy. Do you know UC? Do you get to see him and talk to him once in a while? Not as much lately, but I live on the West Coast. UC is in Texas. So we don't cross paths very often, but we do talk from time to time. We see each other a lot on emails. I'm sure a lot of people do these days. Does the name Georgetown mean anything to you? Georgetown, Texas? What happened there? Well, I was thinking of Georgetown in Washington, D.C. when you said that. I'm afraid I don't know what happened to Georgetown, Texas. Okay. Well, tell me what's going on on your plate. So I'm in the power sector, not the shipping side of our business, but what we do, what I do most of my time is work with utilities, work with industrials, talking about the technologies that we have, both on the engine side of our business, as well as the storage side of our business. And more and more these days, as you mentioned, we're talking to people who want to maximize the amount of renewables that they are using, whether that be solar or wind, and are trying to find a way to make sure their power systems are reliable. And that's really where our technologies come in, because they really enable both solar and wind to be utilized more widely and adopted in much greater quantities on the grid. And both of our engine technology as well as our storage technology are both enablers of renewables. And so it's been pretty exciting, especially for me, somebody who's very much a forward thinker in terms of where I want the future to go and how I want the power industry to look. So for me, it's been a real pleasure to work with a technology company that's on the cutting edge of helping the whole grid, both in the United States and around the world, modernize and find a way to become much greener and also much more reliable. And you wouldn't think a company that's been around for 180 years would be on the cutting edge like that with technology in our internal combustion engine technology has been around for years, but it's extremely well suited for this entire renewables movement. So it's pretty interesting. One of the videos that are on your site, on the Farsola site, about energy systems shows three parts. One is a solar field. Two is a storage facility connected to the solar field. And the third is an engine, which I found very interesting because that supports the system even if there's no sunlight at the moment. And even if the batteries are depleted, now the engine kicks in and the engine runs on biofuel or a combination of renewable fuels. That's very interesting. Has that system been deployed in the U.S.? It has. It's becoming more and more commonplace. We're working with utilities in multiple states that are deploying exactly what you described. And there's even one very close to your home on Oahu, which I'm sure you know about, which was the first Vardsilla plant built in Hawaii in over 20 years when it was announced. Back in 2016, we commissioned the project at Schofield Army Barracks, which is owned and operated by Hawaiian Electric. But it was chosen by Hawaiian Electric. Our technology was chosen because they wanted to find a way to maximize the amount of solar, maximize the amount of wind, and make sure that the grid was stable whenever they did that. And they decided the technology that we offer was best suited for that purpose. And ever since 2016, there's been a 50-megawatt plant sitting at Schofield Army Barracks. Many people don't know about it. It doesn't it doesn't run frequently, but it's there as as a backup just in case it's needed, just in case the grid has an issue, or if the sun suddenly drops when they didn't expect it to, or the wind stops blowing when they didn't expect it to, and there's an immediate need for power, and the grid needs that resource to kick in. And that's what it's there for. So that's Gary, let's let's turn to you, Gary, just for a minute. Have you been involved in the Schofield project? I take it that wherever these facilities are being built by Varsilla, there's a need for programming and grid integration and analytics. That's that's what you do and tell me what is it exactly and what is the scope and whether you have any contact with the Schofield project? I certainly have contact with the Schofield project. Ascent is a 50-plus energy analytics company, and what we do is provide the analytic insight to support decision analysis, particularly as companies go towards this transition of higher and higher renewables. In the case of Hawaii, my company was one of the analytic firms Hawaii Electric reached out to to lead the integration effort towards 100% renewables in the resource plan, and the Schofield project was part of that plan and was evaluated in great detail. Is it fair to say that in any significant project, when you have this this kind of multiple multi-mode system, as we have described and as exists on the Schofield, you're going to need this kind of technology, the integration and analytical technology. I don't understand how to integrate all these renewables and have a reliable grid. You need to have an analytic lens, and that lens needs to be much more powerful in terms of how it looks into the future. Your old 35 millimeter lens needs to be replaced with the 300 millimeter lens so you get the depth of field that you need to understand the intermittency and dynamics induced by all this wind and solar you're bringing on. And we run the system and as was mentioned, the Schofield project really serves as backup and to integrate under extreme conditions where you simply can't charge batteries because it's not sunny enough and the wind isn't blowing and you can't make the island all batteries. That won't work either economically or aesthetically. So you end up using a little bit of renewable fuels down the road today. It's existing conventional fuels in the Schofield project. It's the perfect resource to address that gap in the very infrequent periods that occur. We need to firm up the grid because there just isn't enough natural resources to produce the energy. At the end of the day, you're going to make it more sustainable and more efficient. That's what it's about. Are you doing projects all over the country? Where are you working? Everybody's getting on with this bandwagon of let's go and renewables because the economics make sense and thermal generation that stays are very limited. Wardsilla uniquely fits in and fits in the Schofield very neatly into this transition towards 100% because you need some backup thermal just in case. It has to be highly flexible without a startup or shutdown cost like your car engine. Conventional generation just doesn't move up fast enough. It has too much cost. So when we look at minimizing costs for this renewable future, typically we're finding more flexible resources like Wardsilla's have a role. I'll be at a small but important role in this future. Let's look at this in the larger context. The Schofield plant is a backup plant. Yes, we have covered it, John. We have covered it here on ThinkTech. We've had shows with some of the people involved, including Hawaiian Electric, about that project some a year ago, maybe. I was very impressed with it, but where does it fit in the larger picture for Wardsilla's entry into the US market and its contribution to renewables in the US market? It is a perfect fit to that, not only to the US, but the role of the plant is exactly what we see that will be the role of flexible generation in the transition. And even after the transition, you need this component in the power system to ensure security of supply. So globally, like Gary said, many countries, nations, states, regions, even companies have set already goals to decarbonize. There's always a year, 2040 or 50 or so involved. And today they are then figuring out how to get there. And we can see that in this path, you keep adding renewables and you want to use less and less for self-fuse on the way, because that's where the carbon is coming from. And then during, let's say a sunny day in California, maybe you have heard of the duck curve that is there, you would need to switch off power plants because there is enough solar energy for the system. But if you have these inflexible plants, large plants, you cannot switch them off for an hour or two. So you keep burning for self-fuse while you would otherwise have enough renewable clean energy. And that's the role of the flexibility during the transition to switch off immediately when you don't need to burn for self-fuse and come back when you need more energy to the system.  And it is like already here discussed that when the weather then behaves abnormally, let's say there's a rainy period, a long time, and there's simply not coming enough energy from the solar and wind side, then you produce electricity with these plants. And like our plants today, they are capable of burning all these synthetic carbon-neutral fuels. And we have announced in May this year that we will burn 100% hydrogen, pure hydrogen in our engines soon. So we are working on that now in the laboratory conditions. And I think hydrogen will also have a role in the power systems in the future. So thermal plants, they used to burn for self-fuse. People think the plants have to go, but these plants can burn also fuels that do not produce any new carbon on the atmosphere. So then they basically have a new birth in a way. So is virtual converting old fossil plants into plants that use more renewable type liquid fuels? We can use both liquid and gaseous fuels and we can convert. Yes. Yes. Well, that would save a lot of money around the country for all these places that really cannot afford to just demolish the old plants and build everything new. But one of the things that interests me, and John mentioned it, is that this is a backup plant here in Schofield. It is not an online plant. You call upon it when you need it. But query, let's assume for a moment that we get real serious and we don't want to use the primary source, which is oil here for that area. And we want to populate the grid only with this kind of plant that you built in Schofield. So will this work as a primary source or does it have to be adapted to become a primary source? No, it would really work as a primary source. I think it is a question of cost. You can operate these plants as basal plants or as a balancing plant for the renewables. So definitely it would work in both roles. The decision needs to be made by you guys and what you prefer. I think solar power today is very cost efficient. So we should use it wherever you just have the physical location where you can put those panels. And it makes a lot of sense. And when storage, battery storages, there's a strong learning curve still for the next 10 years, at least on the cost of those storage plants. So I think it makes a lot of sense to overbuild solar and build storage and shift that daily excess production for the next night. So this way you get a totally clean system and then it is only to have a backup system for those weather conditions when you have cloud cover or you have some other reason like some countries have something like winter where I come from at least originally. And Denver as well. So of course you have solar cells. You have battery cells and you have this engine that will burn any number of different kinds of fuels and mixtures of fuels. Do you make the solar cells? Does Frantzilla make this battery storage cells? Does it make the engine? Or if not, where does it get these things from? The engines are our own design from scratch. So we have been making engines since 1942, I think, in Wärtsilä and the solar panels or batteries we do not manufacture. But we are integrating systems, then power systems, power plants, et cetera, to serve as balancing functions and even basal plants. In Africa we have had for many years in the sub-Saharan Africa a market share of 80% of all power plants. So there's a lot of Wärtsilä plants. You mentioned 50 countries. That's where the company has its own offices and locations. But actually we have built power plants in more than 180 countries. So there is only, I think, 12 places in the world where we have an Antarctic guys. One other question I want to ask you is that these engines, for example, just to take an example, are built in Finland and I guess they're going to have real quality steel and real quality engineering. But query, they're metric. And I know that the army at Schofield would be very interested in resilience and sustainability. But if a piece went out in that engineering, in that engine and its metric, how would Wärtsilä replace that over the miles? The engine is metric, yes. But we have 4,000 megawatts of these engines running here in the US only. And we have spare parts available in several locations over here. So parts are available with immediate notice. So metric or inches or whatever you like. Well, I mean, I'm sure that the army, there's a good project. It's a demonstration project, isn't it? Because the army is going to be very interested in sustainability and reliability and security and all that. And they were happy with it. Hawaiian Electric obviously was happy with it. And I think it's had very good press here, matter of fact. But query, what's, John, what's next in the pipeline? Do you know? Can you talk about other projects that are contemplated around the country? Can you talk about other projects that are contemplated in Hawaii? Yeah. Well, there's one I think that's quite interesting that's not too far from Hawaii, not in Hawaii, but it's in Southern California. It's utility that, like many in progressive areas, want to reach 100% renewables as soon as they can. But they also have a duty and a responsibility to make sure the grid is reliable. So they had a very old plant built in the 1950s, which was extremely unreliable. They've known for years it had to be replaced, and they recently decided to replace it with a power plant comprised of battery storage and Vartzilla engines to back up the battery storage, as well as all the solar power and wind coming off the grid from all over the state of California and the rest of the Western U.S. So it's another example, a newer example than Schofield is, of a utility that wants to get to 100% renewables, but in this case is in a very densely populated, one of the largest cities in the world, Los Angeles, and has a lot of constraints in terms of space, in terms of people they have to serve and make sure they're not only green, but they're also very reliable. So that's a pretty exciting project that we're working on right now. Gary Doris was also involved in that as a consultant to the utility there. It's the city of Glendale, California, near Hollywood. So that one has been pretty fun to work on lately. Gary, one thing we talked about, reliability and security and all that, and of course, in a world of computers, you are the computer. You are the integrator.  And in that sense, you're the one who has to worry about hacking, hacking from far away. I'm sure, for example, you could and do have computer internet control on these projects in some way to make sure they're functioning properly. So query, how secure are they? Should we have any concern about nefarious activities on the integration? Well, my company is actually more involved in the decision analysis of what to build and when as they transition to this higher renewable standards. We are involved in operations as well. But in a different facet, security is a big thing though for the grid and it's something that electric utilities and system integrators and controllers are investing heavily in. And everybody has to be very vigilant about this. In terms of decision analysis, you know, what I think is interesting is both Hawaii and Glendale are faced with the decision, we want to go to renewables, we want to get there quickly. Why should we build this internal combustion engine that sends us back in time? And it's not the case at all. It's a matter of efficiency and capital allocation to most economically improve the environment and reach these objectives. And Lucy said it earlier, the price of storage is declining precipitously and we're learning a lot. It's not a mature technology like an internal combustion engine. If an internal combustion engine can burn renewable fuels, frankly, that are created from the excess renewables when the sun's at its zenith angle, that's clean. It's a good use of that extra energy. You can't consume all the energy in batteries. There's sometimes there's just too much. And so that's a way of taking advantage of the surplus and making clean fuels and then using these highly flexible internal combustion engines to use them when you absolutely need them and the batteries aren't charged. And so when Hawaii was facing the choice of what do we do, the first choice was we need some flexible internal combustion engines as backup to integrate all these renewables. Yeah, Glendale's in the same spot. And it's really interesting to see how much more economic this is than any other choice. And we looked at this in a dollar per ton basis for carbon abatement and it turns out it's in order a couple orders of magnitude less expensive than any other solution. So it really makes sense. And if municipality like Glendale or a private entity is interested in doing the right thing for the right payers in society, sometimes the choice like these were so engines is the right one even though it might sound like they're not headed down the road of green. That's actually not the case. Yeah. You see, we only have a few minutes left and I wanted to just talk to you about, you know, the vision. It seems to me that Brazil is in this all the way. It has committed to do clean energy, 100% renewable energy, not only, you know, in the United States, but all over the world. And if you look at the various parts of its website, you are impressed with the dedication that the company has to making a better world, a world without greenhouse gases and carbon. It's very impressive. But I just wonder if you could talk about the future of Barcelona in the United States. What are you planning? What do you expect will happen? I know there's a lot of variables at play, but what do you expect will happen in the next five, 10 years in terms of Barcelona's participation in our new green deal? That's a really good question. Let me first say that as part of the vision that you mentioned first and that I spoke about earlier, we are part of a community called Path 200. So, if you go to the website, Path 200.org, you can see there those activities that are done we are doing. That's a kind of community where there's passionate people who want to help the world go faster towards the green future. So, you asked about the U.S. I think it's a really good question. We see a lot of states already having set the target, RPS, so and so by year, so and so. And there's always a 100% or so number connected to a certain year in the future. We see quite a lot of utility companies, especially during the last year, lots, lots of companies have come out with a target of their own to decarbonize their portfolios. And we can see clearly that this is the time when guys like Gary are needed a lot because there's a lot of planning going on. I sometimes use the comparison that remember when JFK said that I want to take a man to the moon and bring him back alive during this decade. You needed some science to get them there and get them back as well. And I think this is what is going on right now. We are learning how to do it. And over the next five years, I think many people will learn how to do it. Right now it is still quite blurry, I would say, because these targets have been set very recently. But I think in the next five years, people will figure it out. And for us, we can see a lot happening on the storage side already. There's a lot of real projects every week, something happening on the storage side. While we still need a few years, I think before the market is ready for the total solution where these flexible plants are kind of replacing the inflexible infracradually of the system. And then becoming those plants that use less and less fossil fuels over the years and later on then are converted to these carbon neutral fuels. So we see a storage business happening and when these strategies come in place, new portfolio plans, etc. Then we see a snowball effect coming also for the flexible plants. John and I talked about, we just touched on it, but where does Hawaii fit in all this? Do you see Hawaii as a special place for green energy? It's a special place for this kind of project, this kind of combination of energy resources? If you ask me, I think pretty much on top of the pack, because you have set targets and guys like Gary have really modeled in-depth how to do it, how to get there. So you have really already a plan. California is also moving very strongly forward, but the plan is still in the shaping. There's a lot of discussion of these fuels. You already chose that you have liquid fuel, which is bio-based fuel in the system. So it is already a solution for that. Well, now there's a lot of discussion whether it should be hydrogen or synthetic methane to put in the natural gas grid, etc. I think these things will be cleared out in the next few years, and then much faster movement towards the targets will start to happen. We'll all be watching. Gary, is there anything you want to add before we close? No, it's an exciting feature of this transition to renewables. I don't think they occur so quickly, but suddenly we see the cost of renewables is outpacing thermal generation, and we need to figure out how to take advantage of these economic and clean opportunities. And some of this is taking advantage of the technological innovations. And John, anything you'd like to add before we close? Well, I want to salute Hawaii for leading the country and reaching for high renewable goals. A lot of people are following you now, and thanks for setting the example. And thanks for coming on the show. You see Gary, John, really appreciate you being here. We've been hoping for the show for a long time. We are delighted to see you here and delighted to have this conversation. All the best to all of you. Thank you.


Hi everyone and welcome back. It's Vicky here with a new card making video. Today I will play with some new stamp sets by Altenew. This is from the previous release and I didn't go to use it. I absolutely love it, lovely open flowers that you can of course use with the layering stamps if you like or like I'm going to do today I will stamp just the outlines and I will use my pencils to color them in. Now at the back you can see the layering guide if you want to use those and on the inside of the leaflet you can see some ideas on how you can put together some cards. I think that these flowers look absolutely stunning and by the way the stamp set is called Fabulous Florals and there are also matching dies if you want to grab those as well. I will be working today with my Artisa colored pencils. I have the 72 set here great price for this for what you get and you will see that the pencils work great. Now they come in a tin with a hinge at the cup like how nicely organized they come and that's how I'm going to keep them in my craft room. Now you will find three trays in the 72 set. These are wax based pencils they are acid free and what I love about them is that their lid does not break so I'm going to take out the tray so you can see how they store them. They are in every tray they have kind of a rainbow color which is not very convenient for me so I'm going to take them all out and put them back again in a rainbow order where I have all the yellows together or the pinks together etc. So here is how they look now. On the last tray I kept some pencils that I can use for faces as well as my browns and my grays. Now this video is not sponsored by Artesia I never get sponsored by anyone however that it sent me the set to try it out and I do have a coupon code for you. You will see that these come in a great price and on top of what the discount that they have on their website now you can use the coupon that you will find down below. I am going to quickly review them so you know exactly what these are. First of all they come in a round barrel which means that it might roll around on your table and that's the only disadvantage to be honest that I found with these pencils. Every pencil is labeled with the name of the color the number of the color as well as the light fastness of this pencil. So this one for example is Mekons blue the number is a 104 and it has two plus signs for light fastness. Again these pencils are wax based they are acid free and they are fade resistant and you can see the fade resistance which is also called in the world of art light fastness. By the plus signs I look through all the pencils in my 72 set and most of them have three or four plus signs which is absolutely awesome and here is an example where you can see a close-up look on what I'm talking about and of course the white here is the less fade resistant which is normal. So these are professional great colored pencils. Now today I'm going to work on this pad and this is one that they sent me along with a set of the pencils. It is the premium drawing pad it comes with 50 pages and they are 8 by 10 in inches they are about 130 GSM or 80 pounds thick. So it's not a very thick paper it is quite smooth but it has enough tooth for the pencils to work on top of them. Later on I will try stamping as well on top of this paper and it works great but again keep in mind that I'm not expert in pencil coloring I'm just a crafter making cards and I know that for card makers it's going to be perfect the pencils work beautifully on top of it and you will see that it works with any blending technique. So here I zoomed in for you so you can see what I'm doing. I'm using blood orange and I'm applying very softly the color on top of the page and then I will switch to pumpkin orange a lighter shade of orange and again very light application and I'm going to overlap the darker shade so I can see if it blends nicely and I think it works just fine. The blending is smooth and I do get that pencil colored look where the whole paper is not over saturated. I can add more layers on top light layers without pressing too hard. When you don't press too hard wax doesn't build up so you can add more layers and saturate the color more. Now I'm going to press really hard and see what happens. I'm going to switch to my pumpkin orange add some of that down and then I'm going to try and blend them the two together. You can see I can get some blending and it works just fine. So both techniques light application and pressing too hard works just fine. Now I'm going to show you another technique which is the one that I will be working with for coloring my flower today. So I'm going to do some light application of both those colors and then I'm going to bring in gumsul. Now gumsul is an odorless mineral spirit. It is non-toxic. It's basically a solvent which is going to blend out the wax of these pencils and it's going to end up giving me a very smooth application. When you do this technique you will end up with a very smooth blending. It's not going to look as if you used pencils and depending on the looker you are going after you can switch from one technique to the other. So to apply gumsul over my pencils I'm using a paper stamp. These come in different sizes and you can use them again and again. And here is a close-up look on all the three techniques. The first look where you don't press too hard, the second where you oversaturate the paper and the third one with gumsul. So you can get three different looks with the same pencils and now I'm going to use this paper and start stamping on top of it a few of the flowers from my stamp set. I am going to stamp a couple of leaves as well and for that I'm using permanent ink just to make sure that when I will use gumsul over it I'm not going to smudge or smear it. And since my ink pad was quite dry I had to do it a couple of times and I'm going to start coloring the leaves with my two shades of green. I'm using spring green which is the lighter shade and basil green which is the darker one. I'm going to start by applying the lighter one and I'm not going to cover up completely the whole leaf. I'm leaving an area completely white. Now I switch to basil green and I'm adding the darker shade. I am applying everything with a very light hand. I'm not pressing at all and now with gumsul I'm going to start blending out the lighter color going all the way out to the white area which is going to remain whiter and now I'm going to blend in the darker area. So you see I end up having a very smooth blending. It looks as if I used my alcohol markers there and of course you can deepen up the shadows if you like and add even more layers on top. For my flowers I'm going to use the exact same technique. This time I'm working with blood orange and pumpkin orange. Now you can use your scissors or a sanding block to sharpen up your paper stumps or to clean them from the previous color and then I'm going to blend it out just like I did with the leaves. Notice that with my lighter color I didn't go all the way to the tip of the petal. This way I will end up with a very light shade there. So I'm starting by blending out the lighter color and now I'm going to move on and blend the darker shade and my petal is ready. Now the fun part is that you can go ahead and add color on all your petals, on all the flowers and do the blending with gumsul later on. I find this technique is really fun. It gives amazing results. It's super easy. It is a technique that I absolutely love. I did share it on my videos before and I go back to again and again and every time I use it I always say to myself it's so easy. Why do I use alcohol markers? And the result is really pretty. But in any case I feel like I have to switch from supplies to supplies just to give them all some love since I have them in my stash. I will continue doing the exact same thing on all the flowers and the leaves. Now this step is completely optional but if you want you can build up color and add even more shading on different areas here and there with a darker color. You can see that the paper is not oversaturated with wax just because I blend it out with gumsul so I can easily go on top of it and build up even more color and darken up some areas. Now if you like you can go with gumsul and blend out this layer as well. I kind of like that stroke look of the pencil so I'm going to leave it as it is. I think it looks more organic and more authentic but you can definitely go over it and blend it out one more time for a completely smooth result. Now I'm going to use the matching dies and start cutting out all the images that I have colored just for convenience and so that you can see what I'm doing.  It is so small and handy and it is easy to put on frame for you to see.  Sometimes I color and stamp and color more than I need to for my final composition just because I don't know exactly how many I'm going to need for a flower bouquet.  This one gives a lovely design on top of the paper it is very subtle but it is still there. It's really hard to see on camera right now but you will see the details in the photos at the end.  It is by Alte New and I cut it out from a black cardstock. I absolutely love this one.  I am using a nouveau de luxe glue at the back and I'm going to stick it down at the bottom. I like to have a big sentiment down before I do my flower composition. This way I know that it's going to fit nicely. I'm also going to stamp a secondary sentiment. For that I'm using a very thin strip of white paper and I like this stamp set by Simon's stamp. This is called you got this and it comes with a tone of smaller sentiments that you can combine with bigger ones. So for this one I'm going with the one that says sending happy thoughts.  Now I'm going to play around with my flower cutouts and try and decide where this is going to go.  For sticking things down I'm going to use my nouveau de luxe glue for all the layers that are below the main flower and for the bigger flower which is at the top I'm going to use a foam square at the back. It is a bright and happy card design. I absolutely love flowers on cards and of course by changing the sentiment below it can fit any occasion. I'm going to finish off my card by adding some crystal gems at some of the petals of the flowers. I always like to do that touch on big flowers when they are the focal point on a card just because they look like droplets and they make the flowers look more fresh and it kind of brings them to life. Here are some close-up photos on the card that I made for today. Don't forget that you will find links down below to everything I used along with a coupon code for the whole Arteza website. Thank you all so much for watching today. I hope that you had fun and that you got inspired and I'll see you all next time.