Love it Hi, this is Debbie dashing or welcome to dare to dream. I've been on air and on podcast for 13 years This is an award-winning podcast both from the people's choice awards as well as the webby awards Which makes me very happy and proud to say and I have you absolutely to thank for that So what do I do out in the world? I'm a visibility media shaman. I help you to write a page churner book I take authors to a guaranteed international best-seller status and I teach you the ultimate visibility formula How you can be interviewed on a radio and podcast and get mad results So I love working with my clients and I work love working with my groups. 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He wrote the book leading him perfectly and he speaks internationally about authentic leadership vulnerability and storytelling His clients include amongst many mx and jit g e as in general electric He is also a life coach and host his own event called living and perfectly live His goal is to help attendees start living the life We say that we want to live you'd like to find out more go to his website at his name Except it's a little bit of a robo. It's James T robo Com James welcome to dare to dream. It is so wonderful to have you here my friend Debbie, how are we doing today friend? You look enigmatic today? What does that word mean? It sounds good You're an enigma you look it's just you just you just you're a ray of light I always love spending time with you Debbie From when we met just just a few weeks ago.  Thank you. Yeah, five healthy weeks ago We met Right, but you know you were you know same right back at you James because you're Riveting on stage and I have so many questions. I want to ask you I think of where I want to start first is what as an author as a speaker as a coach So somebody who majors if you will in storytelling, how did you make a shift? What allowed you to go past any experiences when you were younger and maybe felt some Expectations and say, you know, that's not my path. I'm gonna carve this path instead. What helped you do that? Yeah, for sure I'm very fortunate that I have parents that are super supportive of me I'm very very grateful for them and and the opportunities that they provided, you know, it's interesting when I went to college I thought I wanted to be a marine biologist and I actually have my BS in marine biology. There's a fun fact for you And but around my junior year, I realized I was putting too many jokes in my scientific papers My teachers are like this may not be for you and it's like I think I agree with you So I actually went on to get a master's in counseling and I worked in higher education for a while developing leaders both students and professionals and it was in that time where I realized I love helping individuals Do what they say they want to do. I think I have a gift of helping people point out of helping point out to people where they're getting stuck now and and so for me I left that job on a win to try to be a professional speaker and I said, this is it Let's go and let's try. I think what helped me is that I didn't have at that time I didn't have that time anything crazy responsibility wise, right? I was in a relationship, but we were young and in love and I was also I wouldn't have any kids And so you could take risks and and feel pretty good about it And there's part of me that was like listen if I don't do it now, I'm never gonna do it I'm just gonna keep making excuses and I'm trying not to do that So as a speaker, these are really weird times, right? I mean because most of your events have been canceled like every other speaker So what are you doing to sustain yourself? Do you have anything new that you're working on any projects and any places you're exploring? Yeah, for sure. Now. Are you asking that before or after the fetal position Debbie, which Before after shortly. Okay. Good. So post tears. All right, great. Yeah. No, you're right Debbie Yeah, I mean, I make a living getting in front of large crowded groups of people and and trying to move and trying to move them And so this has been very interesting. I have pivoted to some programs doing them virtually It's been nice to have some clients that have wanted to do that And then also I did use this opportunity to to start something new now I've had a Something on my brain and actually go to the New Media Summit helped me with this I've had some of my brain for about six years and just didn't think I was good enough Just didn't think people would enjoy it didn't think you know all the all the just you know things that we put in our way I wrote it wrote myself a lot of stories, but I started a brand new thing. It's called diner talks And it is a Facebook live show it'll also be a podcast sooner than later But it is an opportunity I think the best conversations that we have in our lives occur after the hour of 10 o'clock at late night eateries at your diners Denny's I Have over a BLT over a BLT or or a gluttonous stack of pancakes and Yeah, I love those moments because you have really cool conversations with people that you love And so I wanted to try to recreate that that's what this show is is having deep conversations with laughter with people that care about each other Now have you recorded any of them because I'm wondering about the pancakes and the food and how you're how you're making that connection at this time Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so it's a little bit weird going Facebook live right now because I can't go to a diner So the goal actually what I'm using this opportunity as is like let's let's work it out Let me work out the kinks and I mean ultimately you can get all the production behind it and put it into a diner and put it Into some of those places, but the show itself has to be solid first And so let's just get the show out there and start having a conversation So I do it like you live streaming type stuff and I put a diner in the background But that's about as close to greasy things as we get You have to have a really bad cup of Joe sitting in front of you as well For sure. I got my diner mug, you know as a talk show as a talk show host. You still need some sort of a mug That's one thing I learned so Yes, really important product placement for yourself exactly those storytelling like I really love that and that's something that I continue to explore also as a speaker and I find that every time I work with well certain people they add they really add something To the mix that I never would have known before never would have thought about I know this is your expertise So what is it about storytelling like if you could give me one thing that is germane? To really telling a story that can not just move an audience But maybe move them forward to want to work with you like really create that connection. What would you recommend? Yeah, for sure I think one of the biggest things is that a lot of people approach speaking approach being on stage even in front of meetings They get can they get confused between credibility and relatability Incredibility is your degree. It's your job title. It's how much money you made in Q4 It's like that kind of stuff But relatability is what you learned from that degree and how you're applying it It is how you got to that job It is your slips in your struggles in your entrepreneurial journey things like that and Relatability is where we see a lot of power in speaking and storytelling because when we see ourselves in someone else We believe that we can So by creating that relatable moment It's really powerful. So it's it's truly coming at your audience is like hey another fellow human being here I got something that I've been through that I think maybe you are going through could have gone through that will relate to you I want to share a little bit of my story What about emotions when you do that?  Maybe maybe not but I think if your voice cracks a little bit at a at a at a point Then there's some real people want to see real you can recognize fake from a mile away We know what fake feels like and so authenticity Breeds community. Yeah, that's great. That leads me to wonder you also coach and help people leadership leading imperfectly Leading authentically words that I really love which is very much like what you're saying right now. It's about being real That's the component there. How do you help people to? unpack themselves or Lower their barriers become really transparent so they can still be very profound and powerful leaders and yet They're showing you something that sort of makes you fall in love with them And it's imperfect, but you're following their lead or they are Being really authentic and it's something you can say like I really appreciate this person That seems to me a gift like a charismatic gift Yeah, yeah for sure. I mean ultimately I think we as humans learn things from people who are imperfect We don't learn things from people who are perfect Just because there's so much value in that story in that journey. And so that's why That's what good leaders need to do that you need to own who they are so they can be real to other people But when it comes to this I think I guess a question that I'd almost throw back at you If you if you're willing to dance a little bit is in your eyes What's the difference between being a hero and being a role model Debbie? Oh? I feel like energetically. It's a light-years difference. I feel like a hero is somebody who Overcomes ridiculous obstacles hero or shiro and has a quest right? It's a little bit of a Don Quixote and they're not going to end until they want obstacle at a time and There is a benefit to them and usually to other people for them achieving whatever that goal is a role model It doesn't have the same energy to it for me and I would say a role model is somebody that people look up to Maybe they're they've got a paradigm going on and people say oh, I'd like to be like that, but they feel more untouchable Interesting I'm so glad we have this conversation because I think that I think that I almost flipped the two But I still use the words in a slightly different way So for me and I'm so glad that I asked you that because this is such a cool thing to think about Because ultimately when we teach leadership I think we want more role models in the workplace and less heroes because when I say heroes I think heroes save you, but role models help you save yourself And heroes are trying to be like this perfect individual that we see right up there with the cape And they swoop down and they save the day, but we don't need saving. We need community and so So in that space like heroes are kind of up here on this pedestal Whereas role models are down amongst individuals the people that I consider role models I consider role models because I see what they do for others. They make me want to do better They lead by example But I also see the times where they slipped and they struggled and they made me realize that maybe right now where I am is okay That I'm enough and that I can grow and that I can go And so that's a lot of what I think leaders need to see is not like hey cool slap a title on me now I have to be this thing you weren't hired because you were the most perfect no one puts that expectation on you You were hired because you're the most trusted and it's very different when we think about how that that kind of an individual would attack Leading a team. And who would be a role model for you? Who's somebody who really carves out a path that you just think? Wow I I would love to be somewhat more like you Yeah, for sure. I think when I pick my role models, it's interesting. I pick people that are like three years ahead of me Because the breadcrumbs that they dropped haven't disintegrated, right? Like they're still there As opposed to some of these hallmark individuals like as a professional speaker I can look up to the Tony Robbins and Gary Vaynerchuk's Eric Thomas like some of these, you know, incredible individuals And and I certainly do look up to them, but they're more like heroes They're like almost like untouchable where it's like, oh man, they're just they're just way up on this pedestal I mean, so I have individuals that I look up to a guy by the name of Tom Kregelstein Mr. Jeff desk a couple of individuals like that or they're just a few years ahead of me that the way that they think is Causing me to be better and the fact that I can watch them try and fail and try and win It's like, okay, maybe I can keep trying and just and kind of encouraged me to keep a movement. Yeah, that makes sense So these days I imagine you're sort of your own role model Quarantining and all of that what are you doing right now? That's unique besides your diner series What what are there ways that you are picking up new habits or making new choices that feel really positive? Things you are wanting to bring forward and that are actually creating a lot of change for you. I Think one of the most powerful things to do is something actually that we're doing here at home It and my wife and I it's so simple But we go for a walk every day and the walk is an hour long and in the middle of my wife It's also a professional speaker. So in the midst of zoom calls and writing curriculum and like trying to record a video and post it to youtube We'll check in with each other of like, oh, what do you want for dinner later? Or how you doing? You good? Or hey, can I run this by you? But it's not intentional and so taking the intention Making the intention to spend that hour with her every day of going on a walk and we have some of the We have some hard conversations during that time, but we also have some really cool conversations It's been a space to dream. It's been a space to check in on our relationship I think that's been one of the things that's made this Quarantine a lot more special because we live in an apartment. So we don't have green space We don't have so many places we can go to hide And and so that's probably been one of the biggest things and then I would say as far as work wise As far as work wise what I'm trying to do What I'm trying to do is as much like you said in your intro is how can we serve right now? You know finances are weird Budgets are getting cut people are getting furloughed And so I've been offering a bunch of free things And also a couple of like pay what you can things right like I'm hosting my A virtual version of my living in perfectly live. It's gonna be a day long thing on may 16th And it's a pay what you can and you can pay anywhere from $10 to $100 and whatever you feel like paying You're gonna get the same exact experience And so you know those kind of things is just shifting a little bit Like you mentioned kind of shifting some of your rates around for this The for this opportunity that people can have to really try to make something different of their lives Yeah, so important, right. Thank you. Um, and that's so great.  So I can relate You know, I do the best I can I'm in a nice area, but you know, yeah, I'm not out in the country Right, sure. I would be the bomb right now And you told a story when I first met you About Shania Twain and I just thought it would be really lovely for people To hear this story. It would you share? I'm now for something completely different So, uh, yeah, no happily happily. So, um Uh long story short friends at my senior prom I dislocated my right knee dancing to Shania Twain's man. I feel like a woman Now here's the thing it's come out. There's some other details you need to know first off that actually occurred during dinner Okay. See, I don't know who the dj was at my senior prom But dude was dropping straight fire all night and you know how you know normally at formal events at prom's weddings Receptions things like that. Normally during dinner, they'll like drop it down and play like some smooth jazz or some Billy Joel. No, my man just kept coming with the hits And so me and my friends were standing around being like, yo if he's going to keep the dance floor hot We got to make sure it doesn't get chilly.  I popped my own knee back in I then proceeded to drag myself to the side of the dance floor My principal rushed over to me and handed me three ice cubes I still don't know if those three ice cubes were for my inflammation or for my water But either way very sweet, man That's it. Yeah, my friends dragged me to the summit friends dragged me over to some chairs He helped me get up. They gave me some chicken parmesan. I cried into some chicken parmesan you know, and some of y'all call those Tuesdays and uh, and uh, so yeah But I got back out on the dance floor later because I told myself I said james This is your senior prom bro. This is like the biggest day of your life basically You have a hot date. You need to get out there And uh, so later on in the night we were out there that played this song just bust a move Only everybody my senior prom was like hey, y'all y'all know y'all know this song, right? You want it and you got it So I played the track only everybody my senior prom was like hey just bust a knee Debbie that's that's disrespectful what they did to me I gotta say your date is so lucky. I am amazed the lengths you went To be there fully present that night and not be dragged out on a stretcher That is impressive james. It's funny because we were both lucky But neither of us got lucky. So, you know, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? But did you ever have to have surgery? I have had surgery. Yeah, so it turns out bad knees run on my family And so I've actually I've dislocated my knee a few times and I wound up having surgery About halfway through college to try to tighten it down a little bit. So Yeah, that's two surgeries myself. I know good times. I said, you know, I think the running career is over I'm not gonna I'm not going that route anymore You gave it a shot though, and I respect that that's right I can handle it. I can handle it. So dare to dream james. This is dare to dream What are your future dreams and goals? What haven't you done that you'd really love to create? Absolutely So a little bit of this diner talks with james is a start to that dream I want to get on I would love to be on television and whatever television looks like at the opportunity they get on whether that's streaming whether that's You know, who knows what it'll look like, but I would love the opportunity to have Be in front of bigger audiences and and having really cool meaningful conversations with a lot of laughter and getting people to pause My biggest goal and I think one of my biggest gifts is to get Individuals to pause for just a moment and and and whether it's to pause and think about their own lives their own patterns Where are they stuck? What are they doing? and And so when you pause You can create that space But if you never pause and you get caught in the hamster wheel of life and our patterns just repeat and we can never pivot and so That's really what i'm trying to do is ultimately I want to I have one book I want to write another i'm gonna write another book at some point Is well excited to hear about the resource that you have around that debbie and uh, and and so Yeah, so so i'll be writing more books and the goal is just get in front of more Get in front of more cameras and in front of more people and really start to spread this You need to we need you we need to we need to laugh more and to be sucker punched really I'm up for that any day And tell me if you could say Because you coach people and you speak from stage So this is part of what you do around leadership and helping attendees But if they're and and I guess what i'm taking into account is For all of us with our expertise. I know it's so for me I see things that people let's say do around books or interviews that I just think Mama mia, it's such a waste because if only you would knock out one two three And instead put on x y z. I promise you just that You will stop sabotaging yourself and have enormous success and get there quicker So in your world james, how is that so what is it that you just wish you could either tell people please stop or Please implement this and you will be brilliant Yeah, one simple thing is to stop shooting on yourself Uh, right. I mean we should on ourselves left and right.  I'm like james. Don't go talk to them. Don't approach them Don't ask for that. Uh, you're not cool enough. You're not funny enough.  You're not successful enough You're not rich enough whatever and and you tell you write you write yourself these stories That you're not enough and then you lead through imposter syndrome Now I mean I try to act through imposter syndrome because you're like if i'm never good enough to be in the space And all i'm doing is faking things right we all know the phrase fake it till you make it But let's be honest if all you ever do is fake it you never really make it And so that is why we've got to start rewriting the lies and the stories that we are telling ourselves And recognizing that maybe just maybe you are enough you are right where you need to be And so that's that's a big heady concept that I try to get people to wrap their brain around Is that you have the tools you have the skill set to start So many people put barriers in their own ways like well I need to do this before I do this right whenever you talk to someone who wants to be a speaker They're like oh, let me write a book and then I can be a speaker. That's not true right People want to start a podcast. Well, I gotta buy a microphone before I can start a podcast.  I have to say Because along the lines of you teaching about being imperfect. It's the most beautiful place to start I could tell you when I began in radio 13 years ago this june that I was terrified talk about We're going to get to you in just a sec Eli In the beginning when I first got started I was so scared It was like a real a radio working all the Equipment plus I got cans on my head plus I have people calling in plus It was a lot and I didn't have formal training. I came from being an actress and a singer And so for me what was really interesting was I had to let go I actually had to Just say You know like for today This is the best I'm going to do and when the show is done I'll listen back and I'll know I'm good. I've been around the block. You know, I'll know what works I wasn't shooting on myself. I'll know it doesn't work and I'll improve So I started out. I'm sure if I listened back to my original shows They would be someone who really was trying and wanted to be liked It was probably adorable and had a lot of good stuff and talent too But I kept at it week after week after week and honestly every time I went to a new station because I did and when I got offers I went through the same thing. It was all new equipment a whole new station a whole new studio new management I was so scared But I would just show up and imperfectly do it and then here I am today, you know, you could I could be sleeping and doing this And you know, that's how comfortable I feel today And I think it's like a great memory or reference point to bring forward Into everything we do Is just just do it really just start like you have enough right now You are enough right now and if you'll just put one foot in front of the other What will unfold will be perfect Perfectly imperfect Yeah, absolutely. I mean we know that even in sales one of the greatest things is differentiation And your imperfections are what differentiate you from everybody else And so why wouldn't we lean into those beautiful things those stories that you have the experiences that you have I love it and I'm and I'm grateful that you leaned into your imperfections debbie because we all benefit from it Thanks, james. Tell us again where we can find you Absolutely. I'm james t robo everywhere over the internet James t robo on instagram but post some meaningful content there and on youtube You can just look up my name there james t robo.com if you want to hear more about my living and perfectly live events My speaking my coaching it'd be special to connect with you folks. Awesome. Well worth it. Thank you so much for being on the show today Appreciate you. I appreciate you friend. Good to see you new to james. Hopefully soon again I love it. You take care debbie. Bye diner man. Bye. Bye Well folks, uh, here we are. We're heading into The second half of the show And as I am gearing up to let my next guest in This is going to be Eli Adelson he'll be here in a moment and uh I'm just going to ask you the question as we get started. How can things work out in your favor effortlessly? First of all the vibration of the word effortless is so beautiful to me. So just I want to like Be felling in that right now. How can things work out in your favor effortlessly? My guest Now is the co-owner of peace and harmony company Eli Adelson who built the company up to a high Six figure business while traveling the world living abroad in europe and asia and finishing a degree from umas while in Thailand while not everything works out perfectly. He lives a life Most people dream of i'm also friends with his dad and he as well So it's really great to have him here and his dad will be on uh in a month So how does it get in better than that than the adelson family? So when Eli is Passionately helping others live in flow. He's all about letting people experience their synchronicity more success more joy more often In both business and life and you can find out more about him at peace and harmony co dot com You're here It's so good to see you. Eli. Welcome to dear to dream. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me Pleasure, it's so great to hang out with you. You know when I first heard you speak We were in a van together and you got up and honestly I think I blacked out at some point because you Literally described my life my dream life Not the life I live my dream life But here you are a young and and you were basically saying I've traveled What it's over 24 countries and I've done this and I've done this But you also had such a presence about you It was not an efforting and it was a real um Like i'm living a damn fine life kind of guy And I was like I remember giving you my card and it's like okay. We need to connect because this is a beautiful thing so Gosh, there's so many places I can start with you, but Let us start with peace and harmony company awesome And I just want to let people know That while Eli and I are talking there is something actually playing in the background that you cannot hear But I'm going to let you explain it Eli because Your dad recommended that I run the youtube video version as well as the podcast version So we have two going up Hello Yeah, well, I mean not to complicate things, but I've got this little one running as well. So We got three going on. That's beautiful. Okay so Again, thank you so much for having me here and taking the time and speaking to me and and thank you So much for playing the program on your podcast and I'm so happy that you enjoy it and get a lot out of it so thank you yeah, so The program is called peace and harmony and basically What it does is it it helps bring in all these positive energies to to get rid of stress and negativity and any tension And kind of uplift you and and uplift around you as well Which is absolutely perfect for this time of of year when We're kind of cooped up and and whatnot So in terms of actual tangible results, it'd be less arguing arguing with your family your your spouse Thing is kind of just working better.  It's free. You can you don't even have to opt in it's available at peaceandharmonydownload.com And I highly recommend everyone try it and all you have to do is go to the page hit play and make sure your sound is up So that's an amazing project that we're working on now and we're going for a one million pockets of peace in the us and It may have been a little bit over ambitious for that call, but we're shooting for July 4th Everybody's at home. What else could you do except get uplifted? You know, no, it's for real and I'm I am a sensitive if something's flatlining and I'll just say it doesn't work for me. I won't say for everybody. I know it I turned it on and it wasn't I was like, what? This is immediate. This is so powerful and I actually spent an hour with your dad yesterday David and He said I feel strongly. I want you to see something He turned his entire computer around and said I want you to watch the tv because I'm being told you need to watch Like this is whatever the six thousand seven thousand dollar, you know entire tv set 65 inch screen and you know the whole Right I think maybe for five minutes. I watched it and he came back and tried to have a conversation with me and he said Debbie you need to lay down. I did What? That was so powerful Yeah, are you around this all the time? Yeah Yeah, and uh, I I don't I don't know. Maybe I'm not as sensitive as other people Or maybe I just don't realize the effect it's having or or not But um, yeah, and I'm staying with him right now because I'm unable to travel versus with everything that's going on So he's got that one 65 inch one and then two other laptop units and then Between the three of us Him his wife and me we have all these hand we have Uh two or three handheld units each that are running and they're all running different programs and but this is the environment that um That i'm currently residing in Guys All right, and the inspiration behind all this peace and harmony. What is it? That's a question for david. I can kind of speculate but um, I we've never actually sat down and had a conversation Uh, basically he Is super compassionate and super kind and and really wants to help out the world and one of his missions here was Was helping out the world to a certain degree And through that came these programs and some more Asciteric divine connection download type thing. I don't entirely know how it works, um What then these came about and and for the last um We work together about nine years now around nine years we've been working at getting these programs out and and uh From a marketing standpoint when you keep coming out with a big program every couple of weeks. It makes it pretty hard Upgrade upgrade upgrade. Yeah Uh, so his thing is just creating more and more programs and I think he's over 700 programs now And we don't offer it all 700. You don't definitely don't sell all of them. Uh, it's Last I checked it was over 300 on the on the store she Well, if you need beta testers, you know, you know where I am because I'm totally in thank you so much. I so appreciate that So I hear an accent. I didn't hear an accent when we met. I'm hearing an accent a little bit english What is going on there? Yeah, it uh it fluctuates it comes and goes uh probably from traveling for so long and being away for so long and Um, so what it was my first start traveling. Tell me. Yeah, please I went to japan and I stayed there for three months and and explored a lot of japan And I didn't really speak japanese and they don't really speak english there And most of the people that I met were english iris australian, so I started hanging out with them And so a lot of the time I was either speaking them or I wasn't speaking or I was speaking like broken english and and trying to get by And so that happened for three months and then I went to australia for a couple of months and then australia hanging out with irish scottish And australian and then I I guess it just kind of Picked it up along the way because I wasn't used to speaking english so much Amazing And so you have the bug Is it just like traveling is your thing or tell me about that and how do you know where you're going to go next and how Do you know how long you're going to stay or where you're going to stay? Yeah, so I I had the bug I I have like a mild version of it now, you know Like I've calmed down as I've I've grown up a little bit But uh, basically it was I want to go out and I want to see the world and I want to learn About all these different cultures and see how the world works in these different places and Japan it's uh, like I was always kind of interested in in that and that I did aikido when I was a little kid and Was was into anime and whatnot And and so I figured that'll throw me so far at my comfort zone I don't speak the language and and everything is so different there from anything i'm used to So I figured if i'm gonna start I may as well just go completely out my element So I did that and then um I thought Australia would be fun and I went there and And it was fun, but it was a little bit too much partying at the time and And then basically as I as I progressed I and I knew what to look for and so I ended up living in in thailand for Six years actually Yeah, and so from there I had a lot of jump-off trips for for visa runs and things like that and And how I would pick countries is uh more recently I would just go to this website called air asia And it's a budget airline for asia And I basically just see what what travel deals they had what was What seemed interesting What what was cheap and didn't take a crazy amount of time to travel to so any like under Three hours under four hours is kind of the limit. I said and then And then I just randomly pick amounts of time and say, okay I think based on all my other experience traveling that if I want to get a really good culture and and See a sense of it Then 10 days is is pretty optimal 10 days the two weeks will give you enough of a taste And I don't know why but i'm thinking about a trip to Sri Lanka that I went to recently So I was living in Malaysia and I needed to do visa runs every Every few months or whatnot. Basically leave the country and come back and renew for the 90 days and so I you've talked to David a lot and I don't know if you know, but he's really big on I'm on Vedic literature astrology and and that and like there are mine and whatnot So I grew up with all these stories about it and and there's one story where Hanuman jumps from the tip of India to Sri Lanka to look for Sita Which is Rama's wife that was captured by the bad guy Robin Ravana depending on it. And so I saw these Tickets to Sri Lanka for like a hundred twenty dollars And I'm just like, yeah, I'm going there and and then I'm gonna go and look at these places And and there's a there's a footprint of Hanuman when when he landed from the jump And so I really wanted to go to that temple and and see what that was like And that was the whole reason I went to To Sri Lanka is basically to go see that and then planning that trip I don't really plan. I just kind of have a loose outline And and so it's like, okay, how much time is it going to take to get to to this area? It's called Nirvana Halia It's in this in the tea plantations in the mountains. So it's so lush and so beautiful and and it gets cold actually and And so, okay, so it's going to take a couple of days to get there Then I want to spend at least a couple of days there and then I want to kind of explore more the country So just adding it up and it's like, oh, okay, so I think 10 11 days will Get me to where I want to go and it's not going to be overwhelming and and I'm not going to start to miss everything in my home in Malaysia and And so it was a good balance. So at this point, I prefer these shorter trips and having a home base somewhere versus just like Taking a bag or a backpack or a suitcase and just kind of going for the long haul and seeing how far you make it Hmm And so did you see the footprint? I did Yeah, it was uh I mean, it wasn't it was a little bit anti-climactic But the temple there was amazing and and I was the only foreigner there. They had tour buses, but it was uh Indians and other Sri Lankans And I it wasn't any any foreign tourist Person like any white tortoise Which was really cool to see and then I got the blessing from the monk and I left the donation and And then I found out that there's four places in the world that Hanuman has left the footprint And now I kind of want to go see the rest of that That's an awesome quest I so get that, you know, I was once looking in a magazine I don't even know where and doesn't matter I saw a picture of Chinquaterre, which is in Italy And I lost it. I just was like, I don't know Where that is in that country? I have to go there That was literally what got me to Italy And I booked a 16 day trip by myself Very fluid, right? You know, I just knew I'll be like here for three days.  I set up for myself and um Eli, I remember probably 65 percent through the trip. I was staying in this beautiful hotel in the Liguria. Oh I really love Italy. I know you can't tell I love Italy Yeah, I had no idea I took a train To Chinquaterre by myself I had my little, you know, my hiking boots and my backpack for the day and my little food I was going to eat And I remember most people take Three to five days to do Chinquaterre, but this is so me. I did it an entire day. It's perfect And you know, it was so beautiful doing it that way. Like I was 100 immersed And the hike along the cliffs And at one point I stopped I think somebody took I was able to find someone to take a picture of me And it's like all of a sudden I breathed and looked around and went, oh my god, I'm here like I can I you know I'm here in the picture the picture that got me here that pulled my energy my being forward into this particular moment I'm living it right now And so I understand the profundity of seeing something or learning something and knowing I need to experience that Whatever that takes I need to follow that quest And it's a beautiful thing, you know to go from idea and inception and imagination to reality Definitely Sure, and and I know you went to Costa Rica a few months ago in November or something like that, wasn't it? October, yeah, October. Okay. Yeah And I'm sure that was such an amazing time as well Yes, it was beautiful. I mean I went there to do ayahuasca and to stay at a resort for a week and do some very deep Excuse me healing work An exploration and I went to a part I've been to Costa Rica before I was this was I'd never been To this side of Costa Rica really lush and beautiful and very beachy and a lot of surfers and And I had an amazing experience and it's interesting you would bring that up Eli because Honestly, the first time I went to Costa Rica. I sort of had judgments about it and I left and I went well It's very peaceful. It is one of the most well read Smart countries very interesting beautiful fruit and coffee and and the people It's you know, sort of switzerland. They're not going to get involved in a war and I liked all of that The terrain is spectacular. The people were wonderful, but I just didn't resonate. I tend to be a european gal And so I was like, this was great. I was here for three weeks. I'm glad I did it But because I went back for this experience and I got to experience a whole another part of Costa Rica I got to tell you I'm kind of in love with it now And like looks like you were talking about vetic astrology, you know Sometimes part of astrology is your astro cartography, which is the lines of your astrology and where you would best live Be in love career money being health all of that And it turns out I've got a line in Costa Rica. So Uh, it it's now become a place like oh, I would consider having like a second or third home there I loved it that much That'd be awesome, right I've never been so I I don't know but I've only heard amazing things about it and And uh, it's on my list for places to go and hopefully Soon, I'll be able to make it there Yeah, well worth it and just get your timing down for weather Because it sure can rain in the office. Yeah All right, I'm used to I'm used to rainy season Yeah, we went what we woke up one morning really really early because we wanted to go ziplining I'd never been ziplining and they said don't worry the rain doesn't hit till about 12 o'clock So if you do like an 8 a.m. Run, you'll be fine. Well, uh, the gods were not they were like, no We don't know the whole shuttle ride for 30 minutes It was like cats and dogs We got there and had a coffee and a laugh and a video and we're like, it's not gonna happen so Next time Next time and so I understand that you have a theory or a story about bamboo And I would love to hear what that is. How is bamboo prevalent or what kind of lessons are there from bamboo? Yeah, great. So I I really like Japan. I don't know if you were able to tell at all But I've been there multiple times since the first trip And they have this bamboo forest in Kyoto And basically you just it's like a long corridor with bamboo on either side And and it's just so lush and so tranquil and it's just beautiful to walk through and I don't know if if your listeners are aware that but in in Asia bamboo is used for scaffolding a lot when you're building something because it's really strong and and durable and and so when you when I was walking down through the bamboo It uh Did I Did I lose you? I'm still here. Oh, I think we're frozen. Well, I'm gonna speak until Eli comes back, you know in these interesting times when everybody's on a a cell phone a computer a iPad and I everything. Yeah, it's like sorry about that. It's okay. My love But you were saying you were walking through the corridor of the bamboo Yeah, and and then there's just a really gentle breeze And the bamboo is just swaying and and if you're lucky, there's there's no one around you The first time I went it was winter and nobody likes to be cold Including me. So I don't know why I was there but It was really cold and there wasn't really anyone there and just seeing all this bamboo just slightly move And and then you look up and you realize it's moving much further than than you thought just from this this little breeze and So it's like, well, that's that's really interesting, but it's still it's still strong It's still durable. It's it's it's flexible And a lot of times people are a little bit too rigid for what's going on and and they think that their goals their plans Whatever their the desired outcome is that it has to go a really specific way in order for them to get what they want And that's not the case at all. It's uh, you have your your intention to desire outcome and and you keep that in mind and then you you move forward to To solve it to fulfill it by by taking the steps that you think are necessary But if at any point it starts to divert or something else comes along that kind of sidetracks you or maybe even leads you to something better It's do you want do you want what you were so focused on? Would you want something better? so it's it's that whole thing is that um Being being still strong willed in what you want and and flexible and being open to more things that I think is so profound that It's one of the things that I took away from walking through the bamboo forest hmm, how beautiful and so is it like um Taking control versus slowing down. Is it Being rigid as you called it versus being in flow. Are those different principles? Well, uh, so being in flow is basically inner and outer alignment and that nature is working for you and and with bamboo It's it's you can just look and see it's still it's still growing up. It's still it's still getting the wind feeling the wind and enjoying all that that offers and um Sorry, I just lost my train of thought for some reason and so Uh Being in flow is is helping move forward to this point and and sometimes we were too focused on On the goal too focused on being in control that we lose sight of what's really important. So For for me, I I'm supposed to be in Malaysia right now because that's where I was currently living and all of this happened And basically the whole world shut down And it was actually really frustrating for me and it took me a couple of weeks to get over But now I'm realizing that this is a really good thing for me in order to accomplish my goals and desires with the business with getting peace and harmony out there and getting all these these pockets of peace everywhere And I don't think there's a better place for me to be in order to move that forward Oof Sorry, what are you saying? That's big That is I mean I understand I really understand and I love the fact that you are able to surrender enough somewhere inside of you that The clarity came up and said wow if I had been where I said I needed to be and should be Malaysia I would not be having the space and the capacity in order to accomplish that which is so important for me right now and for the company So it's really a blessing and when you say nature works for you. This is a perfect example Yeah, so It was it was uncomfortable at first it I was a bit stubborn and hard headed being like oh no like I I need to be there and and Having that story play in my head and then once I was finally able to calm down and come back to it It's like okay. Well, actually this is all supporting what I'm what I'm working for and there's This is the optimal environment for me because I don't have many distractions here and I can really just focus on on all this work. So That's what we talk about when we're being in flow and and kind of letting go of control to to a certain extent that it's We focus on what it is that we really want and not the the short term of it Does that make sense? It does make sense. Yeah, it's I call it widening back Because awesome in the face of something I'm myopic and it's like no, I want that I need that I want that I need that It's completely widened my being back You know, I can see a matrix and if I can't see a matrix something will come to me It always does and it's really like important principle That's my flow if you will for me to remind myself Because I'm a creator I have to remember some of my most potent creations come when I let go of the reins When I let go just let something happen And it may end up more magnificent than I could have dreamed Yeah, that's awesome And that's what we're talking about when we're saying to to when you get in flow and into Why letting go of control or slowing down can actually help speed up your progress is because if you're if you're constricting all your all your creativity being like I need to take this graphic this certain way And and now it's getting frustrating But then as soon as you let go and and then start to explore Into all these avenues and then things kind of just start to work out and and you come up with something even more beautiful Than you had imagined before Yes, I love this letting go of control to speed up progress. Whoo. That's some that's a Right there like a right if you can yeah If you can do that, it's it's it can be difficult It can be difficult One of the ways to do it is just We have this red balloon technique. Do you mind if I share it real quick? Please? I'd love it So we're we're big on the meditations and and that sort of thing, right?  You have this big red balloon this empty red balloon and you just start filling it up beating up all that all that garbage all that energy that you think you need to be Constricted in an act in a certain way and you just keep breathing all that up until the balloon is full It may take a couple of minutes. It may take a couple of seconds It depends on how you're feeling what's going on with you and then once that balloon is full you just close up the top And and let it drift away and let it slowly start to drift away And it just gets further and further and further and starts to fade away and just Keeps going until it completely disappears and and it doesn't exist anymore and then you just Take a minute or two and then open your eyes And come back and and see how you feel and then you can approach whatever activity in that new way And then it's like it's it's okay That it doesn't work out exactly the way you want it to I love that. That was really nice. Yum. Yum. Yum and very simple. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Wow Um Yeah, this is such a good conversation. It's such a relevant conversation right now And one of the things Eli that you do out in the world that you also help people with is how to Align ourselves with our true calling Which I really appreciate Because we've got goals. We've got visions. We've got decisions and then we've got this unique calling And so sometimes they're aligned. Sometimes they're misaligned I actually feel like people right now are feeling that more than ever There's the people the contention of people like I hate my job This is it sucks that I don't have money right now. Maybe I'm not worrying that job But I really hated that job. So it's great to have this time and then there are people like You know, I'm really reevaluating. I mean, I love everything I do, but I'm a major reevaluation Not like I'm leaving the podcast. I don't mean that but I know there are Really deep frankly healing principles. I want to bring into my life As as even regarding being a healer stepping way more into that uh shamanistic aspect of who I am and so That idea of aligning with aligning with our true calling or releasing our earrings in real time That works too Right I'm really widening back. Um, how can we make that happen? How can we align with a true goal? And um, how can we yeah, I just would love some guidance there like what do you do? What do you know? Yeah, I got another meditation for that so What what I I do is intention based and and I know you've talked to other people about intentions and about how important they are And I I definitely agree with all of that Uh, so lately what we've been doing is you can do this by yourself. You can do this with your team It doesn't matter. We've been doing these team intention meditations every day For about 15 or 20 minutes And and what we do is we set our intentions. So For that meditation, it's more business Intentions, but then if you're doing it on your own any any personal intentions you have like like so What kind of impact do you want to have on the world? How do you want to how do you want to show up for people? What are the experiences that you want to have and whatever whatever your goals are? I suggest writing it down because it helps solidify it and then you can always look at it for reference And then once you have those You say okay so For example, one of ours is the one million pockets a piece for the us by july 4 so now we meditate on that attention and we focus on on I'm pulling that and and creating that and one of the ways we do that is by Framing it as if we already have it and feeling how we would feel when we already have it So when we have these one million pockets piece with us, how is that going to make us feel? And and for me personally, that's that's huge. I get excited thinking about it I and and then there's so many other possibilities that come with it if we can do it in in this country Then why can't we do it in brazil in india in europe? There's no reason we can't so it opens so many avenues out that you can go and explore And you just focus on that for a couple of minutes and put your attention on how it feels when you already have that and then After a couple of minutes you come back you open your eyes and starting your day like that is is so profound It's so huge because you're already excited. You're already motivated about what it is that that you want to do That's beautiful. So now we've learned the red balloon technique and then we have learned the intention setting meditation Which you can do with your team for business That's fantastic. And especially, you know anybody Who follows gosh, I want to get it right, but i'm quite sure it's lin mc taggard who did the intention experiment Genius the power of eight where she got eight people together to pray for somebody and hold an intention for somebody and miracles happen I have to say I became part One of her workshops I was in one of her groups and they held an intention for me and things literally changed when I walked out of that room So there is great potency here And so you can do it alone, but you could also do it as a team And what I also like about the team piece is that even though you're meditating independently on a group decided intention You know look energies everything. So there's got to be a synergy that gets created amongst people And I would imagine people get along a little better when you've got that going on and you're not even working at it Right and and it's part of work. And if you're someone like me who doesn't really like working it's perfect But no you get together you're doing this every day for a few minutes and and you just start to appreciate each other so much more and and the value that that everyone can bring to Your common goal and and just the value of them as an individual and and I'm I'm so I'm so grateful for it This morning. I'm doing it and one of the things I'm always thinking of is like I'm so I'm so grateful to have this opportunity to to be with with these people And and to be all working for this and and for this to be the perfect time for all of this to happen Where can people find you where can people work with you or know what you're up to? awesome pieceandharmonico.com is our main website. It's it needs a little bit of work It's supposed to be done by now, but you know how that goes And then if they want to learn more about flow and And all that then we have a quiz they can go to you at takethisquiznow.com And I think it's like 10 11 questions and it'll give them a level of flow and alignment that they are And and then give them some helpful Some tips and little tricks and then if they want to schedule a clarity call with one of our one of our team members they can do that as well and pieceandharmonico.com for the The free piece and harmony program and to have their own little pocket of peace This is dear to dream Eli. What are you next year to dream? Oh, I've got I'm big goals a million pockets of peace for the us and then I want I want the same for Brazil and India and I wanted to spread all around at a viral rate and definitely create a more harmonious world And it starts with Just being at home and being with the ones you love and and having at least the amount of friction as possible I appreciate you so much. Thanks for coming on the show today. 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Good morning. So, let us continue with our problem like we had stated a problem last time if you remember the is a spherical particle that we have and there is some data given about a concentration. So, the diameter of the particle is 2 into 10 raise to minus 3 centimeters and the external concentration C A S is equal to 0.001 moles per dm cube right. Then it is said that the diffusion coefficient or effective diffusivity is 0.1 centimeters per second the data given and moreover it is like also given that at half way distance that is r is equal to capital R by 2 right. The concentration is or C A by C A S is equal to 0.1 right. So, from this they have asked what would be the concentration when r is equal to 0.0 by capital R is equal to 0.7 or in other words if the distance is 0.3 into 10 raise to minus 3 centimeters from the external surface. The radius is radius is 1 into 10 raise to minus 3. So, 0.3 so remaining would be 0.7. So, r by capital R is 0.7. So, what is C A by C A S and we have solved this problem and we arrived at a answer C A is equal to 2.36 into 10 raise to minus 4. How did we do that? Because we know the concentration relation for the concentration profile. We know the relation for the concentration profile that is C A by C A S which is denoted as psi is equal to 1 by lambda right sin h lambda into phi phi that is Thiele modulus sin h phi ok. So, from the given data we can calculate phi which came out to be 6 and then again we substituted for the distance lambda dimensionless distance and we calculated C A. So, C A was equal to or C A was equal to 2.36 into 10 raise to minus 4. So, that is a quick revision of what we have learned last time. Now, the next part of this problem is that what should be the diameter to understand this? What should be the diameter so that eta that is effectiveness factor is 0.8. So, it is very. So, let us stand and learn from this just solving a numerical problem is one thing, but at the same time let us understand what they are trying to say. We can manipulate the diameter of the particle and get effectiveness factor that we want. What is the importance of effectiveness factor? Effectiveness factor is going to decide a rate because actual rate is nothing but the effectiveness factor into the intrinsic rate ok. Now, if the effectiveness factor is close to 1 that means there is no pore diffusion resistance. So, I can manipulate I can design the catalyst particle have a catalyst particle size in such a way that the diffusion resistance is negligible that means effectiveness factor is close to 1. In this case they are asking no do not go for 1 that will be too much I will tell you why, but then 0.8 is good enough. Let us see what happens, but before that we need to understand what is the effectiveness factor otherwise like for the given diameter. For the given diameter what is the effectiveness factor? If the effectiveness factor is already 0.9 or 0.95 then there is no point in bringing it down ok, but anyway they have asked it then we have to solve it all right, but it is quite likely that effectiveness factor is much lower compared to 0.8 and that is why we need to play with the diameter ok. So, in the first part of the question we just looked at a concentration right from the concentration profile. We calculated the Thiele modulus ok, but let us try understand what is the effectiveness factor in the first part itself and then we will see how to manipulate or how to get a value of effectiveness factor to be 0.8. So that there should be a required diameter for it all right fine. So, what is the effectiveness factor in the earlier case when the diameter is 2 into 10 is to minus 3 centimeters which is given rather ok. So, dp is 2 into 10 is to minus 3 centimeter is earlier case phi is 6. So eta i is equal to 3 divided by phi 1 square phi 1 cot h phi minus phi 1 minus 1. We know this ok, we know this. Now, if you substitute phi 1 is equal to 6 here and this is the value ok. You are going to get a value which is much less than 0.8 you can verify that ok. It would be of the order of 0.4 to 0.5 ok that low I am not calculated it, but you can you can do it yourself or it can be somewhere close to this range right. Now, this value is lower. So, the rate is lower, but I am not happy with this rate look at a particle diameter 2 into 10 is to minus 3 centimeters right 2 into 10 is to say 1 centimeter is this much ok 2 into 10 is to minus 3 ok 0.1 centimeter is 1 millimeter. So, this is going to be less than millimeter small it looks like powder ok, but still the effectiveness factor is 0.4 to 0.5 which is something that I am not happy with ok. So, I need to play with a particle diameter can I play with a diffusivity. Now, I have prepared a catalyst ok diffusivity depends on the pore diameter, it depends on the porosity, it depends on the tortuosity, it depends on the constriction factor remember. So, with this now I cannot play with that ok I have prepared a catalyst. Now, only thing that I can play with is a diameter I can grind that catalyst I can grind that catalyst ok, but I cannot change the internal morphology. So, diffusion coefficient cannot be changed the only thing that I can change and get higher effectiveness factor is the diameter ok. I always remember that diameter is something that you can quickly play with right. I can always grind the catalyst if I want to reduce the value of diffusion resistance or increase the value of effectiveness factor that is what we are learning through this problem ok. It would not take much time to numerically solve this problem, but I am trying to convey like what is the meaning behind all this that is more important right. Now, if I want to take this value of effectiveness factor to 0.8 this is d p I need to vary fine. So, in order to vary d p I need to vary d p what do I need to do? First of all what is phi? phi is r root k 1 rho c s a divided by d e. I do not need to buy out this equation I know the proportionality like if you increase r resistance is going to increase if I increase diffusivity resistance going to decrease and relatively if I increase the value of intrinsic rate constant again the diffusion is going to be important ok diffusion resistance is going to be important. So, that is how I remember this equation and what is this numerator? Numerator is numerator is nothing, but the rate constant per unit volume ok. It is per unit volume we already looked at that right. So, this is nothing, but a rate constant let us not get into detail this is the rate constant fine. Now, let me just denote this as r k 1 v divided by d e ok why v because per unit volume the numerator what do I know in all this 6 is equal to 1 into 10 raise to minus 3 k 1 v divided by the diffusivity or diffusion coefficient that is 0.1. So, I get a intrinsic rate constant I get a intrinsic rate constant which is 3 6 0 0 0 0 0 ok you can do this numerical calculation and check ok. What would be the unit? It is a first order reaction unit is per unit volume ok is a volumetric rate constant. So, it is going to be second inverse we already seen that. So, I have determined the value of intrinsic rate constant which is not going to change this value of rate constant is not going to change even if I change diameter ok. So, if I want higher values of effectiveness factor I am going to change the diameter, but rate constant is going to remain same remember that ok fine.   So, for 0.8 phi 1 becomes is going to be less or more is going to be less why because effectiveness factor is increase of phi 1 value is going to go down ok right. So, phi 1 becomes 2 just take that ok when I substitute when I do trial and error just assume the value of phi 1 get this see whether it is equal to 0.8 or not if it is not then go and change the value of phi 1 is trial and error method ok and get a value of phi 1. Now, with this value of phi 1 now again I go back to the expression for phi 1 is equal phi 1 is equal to r root of k v divided by d e. What is that I do not know in this of course, this is a new value of phi 1 earlier it was 6. So, I say phi m new value ok. So, I will have a new r these 2 are not going to change because d depends on the catalyst morphology pore diameter and inside structure and this is again something to do with intrinsic rate constant ok which may have adsorption desorption also like what you have seen before. So, these 2 that is k v and d e are not going to change only r is going to change such that I have a new value of phi 1. So, for the new value of phi 1 if I substitute for k v d e and all this is not r raise to n this is a new new r just do not get confused this is superscript and not the index. So, the new value of r you have substitute for phi and k v that I have calculate 36 whatever 1000 lakh order and diffusivity I am going to get r is equal to 3.4 into 10 raise to minus 4 centimeter which says d p is equal to 6.8 into 10 raise to minus 4 centimeter. So, this is my answer. So, what is happening look at this diameter and the one that was given earlier the diameter given was 2 into 10 raise to minus 3 2 into 10 raise to minus 3 now the diameter that I have calculated is 6 into 10 raise to minus 4. So, diameter has gone down further and that is the reason I am able to increase the effectiveness factor. So, that is the meaning of it. So, I am playing with the diameter to increase the effectiveness factor. In general if I just do a reaction at different diameters and calculate a rate for a given concentration then the graph is going to be like this in general I am not talking about this now the problem is solved. Now, I am talking about a general case a diameter of the cactus particle and a rate at a given concentration. So, say initial rate or inlet rate you know how to measure this rate. I am doing experiments in laboratory say I am using a differential reactor I am probably using a spinning basket reactor you already spend some time discussing what is spinning basket reactor I may be doing experiment in a slurry reactor and calculating the rates at given concentrations throughout and just changing the particle diameter. So, what kind of behavior I expect here you plotted on log log or possibly what will I get a what kind of relation will I get this relation is going to be quite similar to the relationship between eta and phi. Why because the diameter has something to do with the phi and the rate observed has something to do with the value of eta. So, the relation is going to be like this. So, at lower diameter you are free of internal mass transfer diffusion resistances. So, I get maximum rate and as I go on increasing the diameter the molecules have to travel or diffuse over a long distance long path because of which the rate is going to go down resistance would increase that is why it is going down that is the meaning of it. So, if somebody does experiment and gives you the data like this you should know the meaning of that and of course, remember all this rate is for given concentration and this is what I have observed for different diameter you are not changing anything else only the diameter. In that case I see something like this means definitely there is a possibility that diffusion resistance is playing an important role I am using a word possibility. Now, what is that with why will the rate get affected because change because of change in diameter here you know the reason. But is that only reason if I change the diameter and the overall rate is changing is there any other possibility. Now, what have we looked at so far adsorption chemical surface reaction desorption and internal diffusion. Of reactant and product apart from that there is something else that will play an important role in the overall rate or govern the overall rate possibly you already mentioned about it, but not discussed so far in detail is the external mass transfer resistance external mass transfer resistance which has nothing to do with the particle morphology nothing to do with the pore diameter nothing to do with the internal structure of the particle. It depends on something that happens at the exterior surface and in the bulk. So, we will see that in detail now, but then before that just remember probably I have not stated it explicitly that I am talking about this rate constant every time intrinsic rate constant say here or wherever I have used the expression k c a and all that k here I have just used it say for first order reaction r a is equal to minus k c a or if for nth order reaction can be c a raise to n. Now, this k or this expression I have used it for as a normal rate equation, but sometimes it can be complicated or in the sense it can have something in a denominator as well why that will take care of the adsorption term that will take care of the lamur initial would mechanism illeradial mechanism. So, I am not considered it deliberately because then our derivations would become difficult and the interpretation is a problem. So, I have considered very simple case where the rate is given by k c a and that happens even if you have lamur initial adsorption predominant there when does that happen I told you like if you have very high temperature if you have very high temperature then the adsorption is insignificant. So, the denominator becomes 1 and then the expression boils down to a form of a normal rate expression that is r is equal to minus r a is equal to minus k c a raise to n. So, always remember that whatever analysis we have done here is but considering a simple equation, but there is a possibility that you may have adsorption constants desorption constants of the species involved in this particular expression if you really want to get very close to reality right now the purpose is to understand it. So, that is the reason we have use a very simple equation. So, there are so many problems in assignment shades or even at the end of text books like Fogler, Levenspiel and all you should attempt and solve this problem. This is where we are closing this chapter of internal diffusion, but anyway we will be referring to that because not that like one studied and then forgotten because it will come again and again later in our discussion whenever we try and design a reactor. So, we will talk about external mass transfer now it is a different phenomena or other the step than reaction adsorption desorption and internal diffusion what is happening external as a name says the external mass transfer. So, you have a particle you have a particle and fluid is flowing over it. This is a catalyst particle now what is likely to happen at external surface of the particle the fluid dynamics knowledge transfer phenomena tells you that is a boundary layer here there is a boundary layer slightly non-spherical in nature because of flow patterns here it is slightly thicker compare to of course, this can be equal here whatever now how do I define a boundary layer how do I define a boundary layer I define a boundary layer is a thickness of a layer in which the velocity is changing the velocity here near the solid surface is ideally 0 there is no slip and the velocity would go on increasing and will become almost equal to the velocity of the bulk that point and that velocity and that particular thickness at which it becomes a say 99 percent of the external because getting it exactly equal to be a problem. So, getting 99 percent equal what is the length that is a length or thickness of the boundary condition we define it for momentum balance momentum transfer based on the velocity. Now, there is another boundary layer for mass transfer the similar like your velocity is changing here in the case of component concentrations there will be a concentration changing here why is it happening because this layer is a stagnant or close to a stagnant layer that is why the concentration will change the concentration here may not be same as concentration here and that has great implications on the reaction rate. So, far we have been assuming that a concentration at the exterior or external surface of the particle is same as a concentration in the bulk C A B is equal to C A S right. So, far we are not really looked at a difference between these two, but now we are going to look at a possibility that there is a resistance offered by the external surface the boundary layer is thick enough. So, that the concentrations are different C A B is not same as C A S C A B is bulk concentration C A S is a surface concentration this is because the resistance offered by that boundary layer. So, the concentration is going to increase. So, typical profile in the boundary layer of the concentration is this this is the concentration boundary layer earlier I mentioned about the velocity boundary layer momentum balance right. Now, I am talking about the concentration boundary layer now let us make certain assumptions and try and quantify the resistance. Now, this boundary layer thickness is not very large in fact, it is very very small compared to particle diameter most of the times right and this boundary layer if you look at a particle particle is very big and I have a boundary layer small boundary layer around it. So, at any given point a curvature can be neglected as far as this boundary layer is concerned. So, I can say that I have a particle and there is a boundary layer now it is quite possible that you have something like this the curvature will start. So, this is this is surface I can assume at a given point I can assume it to be flat and this is a boundary layer this is a boundary layer. Now, there is an assumption that this boundary layer is stagnant enough and whatever resistance offered by the entire this is where you have bulk right and this is where you have solid. So, whatever resistance on this side for the mass transfer to take place mass transfer to take place is offered by this bulk the conditions here may be velocity whatever ok then all number and all that. So, that particular condition is going to offer certain resistance and that resistance we are going to assume that that is concentrated in this boundary itself or it is called as film ok. So, all the resistance is is concentrated in the film this is a very hypothetical case that I have a film that takes care of all the resistance. So, in terms of a concentration profile now it looks quite it becomes very easy for the analysis you have a film in this the concentration is going to change how it is going to change we will see, but there is one concentration here and there is one concentration here. Now, for a reaction to take place say A is going to B. So, A is sitting here in the bulk now A is going to diffuse through this film and go here and B is going to come out of course, inside you have pore diffusion adsorption desorption that is occurring and then B is coming out. So, if A has to transfer from bulk to here the profile has to be like this and for B it would be other way round.  There is a reason why we are considering this reaction as a first step if you have non-equimbal reaction you have some different things to be considered, but let us now talk about a simple single reaction which is a symbolization reaction, equimbal reaction A going to B. So, A has to diffuse through this layer and go there to the surface inside we already seen what is happening once it is here this is your CAS this is your CAS and this is CAB. Now, I need to know the concentration profile inside what is the nature of this concentration profile whether it will be a straight whether it will be linear non-linear. So, let us let us stand look at this and it is simple we already done this exercise for inter particle diffusion. So, let me consider a differential element like what I did before also, but now it is going to be little easy because I do not have spherical coordinates and working Cartesian coordinates. So, this is at x is equal to 0 and this is at x is equal to say delta. So, delta is the thickness of the film. So, this is x plus dx and this is x and diffusion is going to take place in this direction for A for B it will be opposite. Now, can we write equations here for the flux. So, flux at x flux at x say d A minus d C A minus d C A minus d C A by d x at x minus d C A by d x at x plus d x flux here minus flux here by minus sign because d C A by d x is negative flux has to be positive. So, flux here minus flux here is equal to what earlier what did we do in the case of inter particle diffusion if there was some reaction that was occurring here. So, coming in minus going out plus is the plus reacted is equal to 0 right, but now we have coming in going sorry going out coming in is no reaction reaction is taking place here and not here is only non reactive mass transfer that is taking place. So, right now if you simplify this for dx going to 0 you what you get is a very simple equation a second order differential equation which has a solution and now you will determine A and B by applying proper boundary conditions. What are the boundary conditions x is equal to 0 C A is equal to C A as x is equal to delta C A is equal to C A B right. So, determine the value of A and B first of use this boundary condition x is equal to 0 C A is equal to C S. So, B. So, that implies B is equal to C A S. So, let us calculate the value of A. So, C A minus C A S is equal to A x for x is equal to delta C A is equal to C A B. So, C A B minus C A S by delta is equal to A and if you substitute now this A and B if you substitute here what I get is C A minus C A S divided by C A B minus C A S is equal to x by delta. So, what does it say it is a linear profile inside it is a linear profile inside and we know the boundary conditions and this is a delta the slope is known right. So, it is a linear concentration profile that makes my exercise quite easy. So, it is you have C A B C A S right. Why I am doing all this because I want to get a rate I want to get a flux see mass transfer and diffusion if I want to get a overall rate I have to go through the flux equation flux multiplied by a cross sectional area is going to give me a rate for reaction we already know R is equal to K C A and all that is a rate, but that depends on the unit of K whether it is per unit volume per unit area and all that there is so many possible units. So, be careful about units every time flux is equal to D A right I am not using effective diffusivity here or is a normal diffusivity in the bulk diffusivity into D C A by D C A. So, this is going to be linear. So, substitute for this. So, this is going to be so this is going to be D A by delta right into C A B minus C A S right no delta x is equal to delta right and delta C A is equal to C A B minus C A x linear. So, this is a flux what is the unit moles or kilo moles per meter square second per unit cross sectional area area for flux which area are we talking about by the way we talked about area before also in inter particle diffusion, but do not confuse that area with this area not the area inside it is the area here which is almost equal to the external surface area for the mass transfer to take place. So, this is that area cross sectional area for the flux flux. So, here that area is nothing but the particle external surface area because that is where the mass transfer is occurring, but let us keep the same units right now and go ahead. So, before we go ahead now this flux is equal to normally it is denoted by J A is denoted by J A is one important assumption that we have made another assumption rather we have right we call this assumption because we say that this is A going to B reaction that means it is an equimolar reaction it is an equimolar reaction that is why we have written the equation for flux as flux as J A is equal to D A D C A by D x this is fine, but we have equate it equal to W A normally this happens when you have the many situations possible now you have a surface on which A is going there is a reaction that is taking place B is formed so B is diffusing back what is a net flow it is a equimolar reaction. So, molar flux the net molar flux net molar flux is 0 here very important because how much ever going in same amount is coming out in terms of moles right that is why this is equal to this very important you might have learned that in basic theory of mass transfer W A is equal to J A otherwise W A is equal to J A plus plus what Y A the mole fraction W A plus W B plus whatever total this net flux if it is going to be significant or finite then W A is not equal to J A, but in this particular case for equimolar reaction A going to B right this net flux there will be signs for this plus minus whatever and then there are no other components W A becomes equal to W B, but negative sign. So, this becomes 0 and that is why I have W A is equal to J A this is very important again I want to avoid complication that is why I am considering A going to B reaction, but once you understand this well it would be easy for you to rather extended further for more complicated cases here idea is to rather how to incorporate external mass transfer resistance, how to show the important external mass transfer resistance in the overall rate equation that is the main motivation that is why we are considering a very simple reaction this will happen W A equal to J A will happen for other cases also even if the net flux is finite even if the net flux is finite if Y A is 0. So, you have a very dilute solution then I can neglect this right. So, W A is equal to J A happens in the case of equimolar reactions it happens in the case of dilute solutions as well, but otherwise for non equimolar reactions or suppose your medium is stagnant otherwise no equimolar diffusion that is taking is for only mass transfer say no reaction taking place in that case we have to be careful always remember that fine. So, let us go ahead we have J A or W A is equal to J A is equal to D A by delta C A B minus C A S constant in the bulk the concentration varies only in the film hypothetical film a stagnant film that is what we assume. Now, this particular parameter D A by delta is called as mass transfer coefficient K C let us denote it as K C alright. So, W A is equal to K C into C A B minus C A S again this is flux moles per meter square second and this is called as mass transfer coefficient you have you already learned this probably mass transfer coefficient depends on diffusivity bulk diffusivity and delta film thickness. So, let us spend some time understanding what is this film thickness and all this is the film thickness right. Now, this film thickness depends on which factors this depends on what is the condition here if you have intense agitation the boundary layer thickness will go down the value of delta is going to go down thickness is film thickness is going to go down intense agitation it depends on the properties also say viscosity. Density and diffusivity as well. So, we will talk about the correlations for calculating K C later let us first complete our analysis when the reaction is taking place how to incorporate effect of K C right. How to calculate K C we will see later or look at a correlations and all later, but right now let us try and put this in our rate equation in the overall perspective where you have so many things happening right fine. I have a catalyst particle there is a resistance here I am not going to neglect it now like what I did before and a is going here. Once it reaches here what is the rate the rate is given by eta into intrinsic rate. Once it reaches here, but before it reaches here is the experiencing some resistance. So, these two are again the steps taking place in series and relative importance is going to decide which is the governing step which is the rate determining step and all again the same logic fine. So, let us assume that eta is equal to 1 let us assume that eta is equal to 1 again but we can always incorporate effect of eta later is not a big thing I just multiply it to the rate. And I say adsorption and desorption they are not really important or probably that we are doing it at very high temperature entire surface is available for reaction most of the sides are vacant. In that case what I say is r is equal to say k now I am using k r I will tell you why I am using k r here into C A again a first order reaction r A is equal to minus k r C A. Now, I want to bring these two effects together. So, this is a reaction when this goes inside. So, that is why it is expressed for the concentration at the surface that is C A S. Why C A S is going to be same everywhere why because eta is 1. So, wherever the reaction is taking place it is at C A S concentration inside a particle. Now, this C A S is not same as C A B and we are going to incorporate the effect of external mass transfer. So, this is when the component reaches the external surface. Now, what is the unit of this? This can have many units. So, one unit would be the normally that we use it is per unit volume of the particle provided this is per unit volume. This can be per unit surface area provided by the particle everywhere then in that case this is per unit surface area per unit surface area. This can be this can be per unit weight of the catalyst. So, this would be per unit weight of the catalyst. Now, we are defining one more unit this is per unit area, but not the internal area per unit external area external surface area moles per meter square per second which is same as the unit is same as the external mass transfer. So, that I can marry these two things they are the same platform. So, this is this unit is moles per meter square per second this is external surface area do not confuse this area with the internal area S A that we have used before. So, this is S A, but it has nothing to do with this this is the external surface area which is for a spherical particle it is pi d p square. So, now this rate is expressed in the same unit as that of mass transfer flux that is why I am using k r here. So, k r is defined as the rate constant per unit external surface area for that I need to know the shape of the catalyst I am assuming it to be spherical here external surface area. So, that I can now bring this same platform as that of the external mass transfer. Now, at steady state at steady state r is equal to or say I will now r a is nothing but w a now because I am talking about a flux here per unit external surface area is equal to minus k r C A S and is equal to what minus k c right C A surface minus C A B also. So, this is the surface area sorry it should be other way round should be B here and surface here both are negative negative the magnitude would be equal. So, what I get here is k r C A S is equal to k c C A B minus C A S look at this these two are equal now right. Now, I get these why they are equal because there is no accumulation at the external surface see at the surface surface is two dimensional accumulation is 0. So, whatever going to the surface is leaving the surface how much ever is going to the surface and is same as that is there is no accumulation there is no source term at the surface there is no sink term at the surface. So, that is why is the surface whatever is going external surface whatever is the mass transfer is getting reacted. So, both are equal that is the meaning of this why we are equating now because mathematically we want to go further and get a simpler rate equation in terms of the external or bulk concentration because it is the bulk concentration that I am going to deal with as far as the reactor design is concerned can I can I measure the surface concentration can I sit on the external surface and measure it no I am aware of the bulk concentration only ok. So, my rate equation the overall rate equation should be in terms of the bulk concentration again the same logic what did we do for intraparticle case there again the internal concentrations I did not know them or rather I cannot measure them rather that is why I finally got a expression for the in terms of the external concentration at external surface. Similarly, for adsorption desorption do I know the concentration I adsorbed species I do not know the concentration do not know and say I cannot measure them ok. So, I always express them in terms of the bulk concentration the same logic here ok. So, at the external surface I cannot measure concentration and since I know that this external surface concentration is not same as the bulk concentration I need to do this I need to express this external surface concentration in terms of bulk concentration ok right. So, let us go ahead from this what I get is C A S is equal to K C C A B divided by K C plus K R K C plus K R ok. So, I got expression for C A S now I go ahead and substitute for C A S in the rate equation R A is equal to minus K R C A S is equal to K C K R C A B divided by K R plus K C and what is the unit here again do not forget moles per meters per second meter square per second and which is same as W A. So, this is my rate equation this is my rate equation look at this rate equation this is again something similar to what we have got for adsorption desorption case of course, the expression does not look similar, but the procedure is quite similar that I eliminated the concentration at the interface at the external surface ok and I have got this final expression which is in terms of bulk concentration I am able to measure this. So, again similar to what we discussed before as well now if I have a C A S T R I want to design a C A S T R I am dealing with the bulk concentrations. So, F A minus F sorry F A 0 minus F A plus R A W is equal to 0 and if I convert this into concentrations say and R A is again a function of concentrations these concentrations are bulk concentrations and that is why I need this expression R as a in as a function of C A B and not C A S and that is why I have got this equation. This equation I am going to use this equation in the design now look at this equation this is so much that we can learn from this equation relative importance of K C and K R the smaller one will govern the overall rate ok right I can I can convert it to this form R A is equal to C A B divided by 1 divided by K R 1 divided by K C same one. So, K C K R I have just taken it down now you can see if K C is very large this becomes 0 sorry negative sign yeah K C is very large this becomes 0. So, it boils down to a normal kinetics for K C very large R A is equal to minus K R C A B intrinsic kinetic control that means which is nothing but C A B is equal to C A S this situation no external mass transfer resistance K C is very large diffusion resistance is negligible mass transfer coefficient very large either diffusivity is very large or delta is very small ok. Other way round K R is very large now come relatively always related large means what related to K C ok K R is very large related to K C then R A is equal to minus K C C A B in that case what is C A S? C A S is almost negligible 0 here C A S is equal to C A B whereas in this C A S is equal to 0 you can think about it will continue this discussion in the next lecture, but this is the meaning of the rate equation. If K C is very large then mass transfer resistance is negligible I can ignore it right if K C is very small compared to K R that case I have to consider it ok that reaction becomes instantaneously is a overall or intrinsic reaction becomes instantaneously overall reaction is controlled or governed by the external mass transfer. So, we will continue this discussion in next lecture.


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