It is now time for Member's statements. The Member for Kingston and the Islands. Thank you Speaker. Today I want to proudly bring attention to several environmental initiatives going on in Kingston and the Islands. Today outside of City Hall in our historic Market Square an exhibit titled Climate Changes here was unveiled by Sustainable Kingston. The exhibit uses photography to provide an informative look at the effects of climate change on the biomes of Canada and the Canadian technologies being developed to fight it. This is only one example. In March the City Council of Kingston voted unanimously to declare a climate emergency and have changed their strategic direction to ensure sustainability practices are a strategic priority in their planning. They are the first municipality in Ontario to do so and most encouraging is all the advocacy being done by youth and children in Kingston and across the province. In September a grade 5 student named Ryan Ferrand was spurred into action to write a petition to the City to ban plastic straws after watching a video online with a turtle and a straw-nose. Since then other elementary classrooms have taken up the cause and just yesterday they handed in the petitions with over 1,500 signatures. Mr. Speaker I am so proud to be a member of the community of Kingston Island and to see true leadership on environmentalism and the fight against climate change. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Speaker. I rise today with a sense of joy to speak about the upcoming Jewish holiday of Passover. Beginning this weekend Passover commemorates the 400 years of slavery of the Jewish people in ancient Egypt, their exodus through the desert and 40 year journey to the promised land. For Passover it is customary to host a Seder, a festive dinner with family and friends when we get together to recite the story of Passover and our journey to freedom. You see Mr. Speaker Passover is first and foremost about freedom. Freedom not just from slavery but freedom to live, to worship, to speak, to love. During Passover I often reflect on the freedom that my family gained after leaving the Soviet Union. Freedom that so many of my friends and constituents only gained about 30 years ago. Mr. Speaker more than 4,000 years since the exodus from Egypt, many in this world are still yearning for freedom. Whatever that freedom may be, freedom is a blessing. Freedom is the greatest human right. So on this Passover I wish you and everyone here their own individual freedom and I would like to wish the Jewish community of York Centre, Ontario, in Israel and around the world a happy and kosher Passover. Thank you. Member statements? The Member for London Fanshawe. Thank you Speaker. Today I rise advocating for more mental health support funding from the Government of Ontario. Organizations across Ontario are struggling to provide support and keep up with the demand for mental health care in our communities. DEA Counseling Centre is one such organization in London. DEA was founded to serve the personal and emotional counseling needs of individuals, couples and families and help people to reach their full potential. Their programming helps clients to address mental health issues that include depression, anxiety, addictions, abuse, trauma, family conflict, complicated grief and more. Regrettably, the demand is so high that the staff at DEA cannot serve every person who may contact them. Their local, their allocated weekly funding for free and low cost counseling will run out by Monday morning each week. People are often referred to them by family doctors, hospital staff, crisis lines and various community agencies who know DEA's reputation for service to their clients. Clients are often caught up in the referral loops, which each agency trying to refer clients to the next one when their own resources won't allow them to take on another case. It's clear that our mental health system appears to be relying on the availability of community services, but many of those community services like DEA are dependent on donations. Providing appropriate care in a timely manner benefits individuals and the community with direct and indirect impacts on hospital demands, emergency response services, child welfare needs, among many others. I stand today to recognize the value or organizations like DEA have in our communities and ask that the government recognize that value through the financial supports they deserve. Thank you Speaker. Member Statements. The Member for Mississauga East Cooksville. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this past week I had the privilege to attend the Third Annual Gala hosted by the Al-Khazaz Foundation for Education and Development. The Al-Khazaz Foundation is a not-for-profit organization that runs innovative needs-based education and development programs serving disadvantaged communities in our province, country and around the world. They turn to creative education technology to fill gaps, address resource shortages and increase accessibility of resources to individuals who have no education and language skills and to vulnerable communities such as refugees who arrive from war-torn lands to seek hope, home and future in Canada. The foundation was founded by UFD graduates Khalid Al-Khazaz and Sarah Atiyah. It was Khalid's and Sarah's passion for democracy, human rights and social justice combined with their professional experience in education and development led to the birth of Al-Khazaz Foundation for Education and Development. Mr. Speaker, the foundation's vision is to foster equity of access and outcome through innovative education and development projects rooted in the values of human rights, democracy and social justice. Thank you Khalid and Sarah for your shared dedication to serving the community and creating such an astounding organization with such a great vision. I cannot wait to see what great programs and projects the foundation will be working on next. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Member Statements and Member for Sudbury. Thank you Speaker. Today I want to express my support for the proud members of QP Local 4705 in Sudbury from the Ontario Library Services North in QB 3604 in Toronto for Ontario Library Services South. Yesterday both the Northern and Southern Ontario Library Services informed their clients and staff that their budgets are being cut by 50%. This is the fallout of the government's cuts to the mystery of tourism, culture and sports. It's a cut we didn't see in the black and white of the recent budget. The Ontario Library Services ensure equitable access to public libraries across the province and they help all Ontarians have access to opportunities for lifelong learning. And the North Library Services help us overcome the unique challenges of supporting library development in First Nations and Francophone communities. But today their attention is on the difficult cuts the organization will have to make to staff and will have to make to services. My thoughts and those of my colleagues in the official opposition are with these dedicated public sector workers today. We know that 50% cut of your budget will mean a significant overhaul of your work and a substantial amount of stress. I want you to know that we will stand by you, we will fight to protect your jobs and the jobs of all your workers affected by the government's cruel cuts. Thank you Speaker. Thank you Member Stevens, the Member for Lanark Frontenac, Kingston. Thank you Speaker. Speaker for 10 years Craig Wilson has been trying to build a subdivision off Highway 7 in my riding. He has faced 10 years of obstacles, moving yardsticks and increasing costs which have been perniciously reducing the scope of his project. Bill Katsulis owns a restaurant on Highway 7 and is having similar experiences. MTO bureaucrats continue to press a capricious interpretation of poorly worded regulations to obstruct the objective of vibrant and healthy rural communities. While the premier touts were open for business, it appears that access to fair and just treatment outside of Toronto doesn't exist. With schedule 17 of the budget bill, we are now headed for even further restrictions on access to justice, blocking the public from seeking remedies against the crown for failings, acts or omissions of its officers, employees and agents. I have two expectations. First, that the true government for the people will restore access to justice and the critical elements of checks and balances in our system by revisiting schedule 17 and that the Minister of Transportation will direct MTO employees that they are to facilitate development and growth in rural Ontario, not obstruct and hinder it. Member Statements, the Member for Carleton. Thank you Mr. Speaker. I want to take this opportunity to talk a little more about the budget that our government for the people unveiled on April 11th. The people of Ontario can sleep a little easier these days knowing that our province is on the path towards balancing the budget so that we can protect what matters most, our vital services such as health care and education. Mr. Speaker, I was especially encouraged by what this budget does for the city of Ottawa. Adding on to the $1.2 billion investment our government is making in the LRT, which was incredible news for residents in Riverside South, Finlay Creek, Manitouk, Stitsville and in fact everywhere across the riding of Carleton. Our budget included the word Ottawa 13 times Mr. Speaker. It included $2 million in funding for the Ottawa Police Services to help combat gang the gang and gun related crime. This budget will also mean great things not just for the residents of Carleton but for everyone in the city of Ottawa and across Ontario as well. And not only that Mr. Speaker, the province has also promised to contribute funding towards the Children's Hospital of Eastern Ontario's Children's Treatment Centre and it's committed to help the Ottawa Hospital with the expansion of the civic campus expanded to open, expected to open by 2026. With that I want to thank the Minister of Finance and his parliamentary secretary for their dedicated work as well as the Premier of Ontario. Thank you. Your statements, the member for Toronto, St. Paul's. Thank you Speaker. Christina Tomary is a member of our Toronto St. Paul's community. She recently had hip replacement surgery. Christina is 72 years old. The stress of her surgery was made worse when she learned that there was no home care, no physiotherapy and that she didn't qualify for publicly funded home care services such as out of hospital rehab. Christina like many seniors can't afford private home care. She didn't eat for three days because she couldn't get to the kitchen. Christina met with me recently and broke down in tears. She said I never told anyone how alone and scared I felt and if at 72 years I didn't qualify who would? One senior citizen falling through the crack speaker is too many. Ontarians deserve publicly funded health care and home care, not this Conservative Government's health scheme that rolls out the red carpet to privatisation and private for-profit service providers. The Government is failing our seniors. There's no standard eligibility criteria for determining how patients qualify for publicly funded home care surgery or services post-surgery and there are not enough publicly funded home care services to keep up with our aging population. So let's look beyond PC buzzwords of health system restructuring and modernisation. After all, there's nothing modern about a health budget that's funded grossly and dangerously below inflation. Our senior citizens have given their all to our communities and the least they can receive is the opportunity to heal with dignity. Thank you. The Member for Perry, San Mascuca. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Three residents of Mascuca have recently been recognised by our Lieutenant Governor. Cyril and Marion Fry of Gravenhurst received the Lieutenant Governor's Ontario Heritage Award for Lifetime Achievement on February 22nd. This award recognises people who have made an exceptional volunteer contribution to heritage conservation for 25 years or more. Cyril and Marion were instrumental in creating the Gravenhurst Archives in 1978 and have been involved in collecting, preserving and sharing the history of the town ever since. They were also involved in the Seguin Steamship Museum. On March 7th, Gene Pollock of Bracebridge was one of eight people to receive the Ontario Medal of Good Citizenship. This award recognises individuals for their exceptional efforts and outstanding contributions to their communities and I can't think of a more deserving person. Gene is highly involved in the community. She is probably best known for her work with the Rotary Club of Bracebridge for 26 years. She has been involved with the Rotary Club's annual theatre production most often as producer. This year I attended the Bracebridge and Huntsville Rotary Club's production of Mamma Mia and have to say it was a great show. Gene has also served on the boards of Mascuca Conservancy and the South Mascuca Memorial Hospital and volunteered with Community Living, South Mascuca and other organisations. Beyond our community she has been a member of the Chief Justice of Ontario's Advisory Committee on Professionalism and worked with the Advocate Society. Mr Speaker, I want to thank Cyril and Marion Fry and Gene Pollock for their contributions to our communities and offer my congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. Member statements? The Member for Mississauga Centre. Thank you Mr Speaker. Last week the Deputy Premier and Minister of Health and Long-Term Care and I had the pleasure of attending the annual general meeting of the Registered Nurses Association of Ontario. The RNAO represents registered nurses, nurse practitioners and nursing students from all across Ontario and this yearly event brings them together to recognise their hard work and to celebrate their achievements. The AGM is also an opportunity for Ontario's nurses to meet with stakeholders and elected officials to share their experiences and to engage in thoughtful discussions on policy recommendations. I'm proud to be a member of the RNAO since 2014 and in previous years I remember how excited I was to attend the AGM as a nursing student and then as a registered nurse. So you can only imagine how proud I was to return this year as an MPP, to return as that voice that represents nurses in this house as someone who can relate with lived experiences of my own. Every nurse has a story and every story has the potential to improve our health care system to achieve the best patient health outcomes possible. That's what the RNAO is all about. Speaking out for nursing, speaking out for health. Nurses are the backbone of our health care system. They provide an incredible amount of support to patients and physicians when they report for duty at the crack of dawn and in doing so they make a difference in people's lives each and every day. This year the RNAO's lifetime achievement was given to Julie Surridge who's been an RN for an incredible 48 years. Throughout her career Judy has never seen supporting the profession and Ontario patients. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank and to congratulate Judy on her award and years for outstanding service. Well done. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Thank you. That concludes our member statements for this afternoon. Reports by committees.


Good morning Hickets Tuesday. So almost all books get worse over time. Like the classic example of this is the work of John Dos Passos, who 70 years ago was considered one of the great American novelists, and now we hardly read his work. And that's not because his books weren't good then, it's because they aren't as good now. Times and people change in unexpected and unpredictable ways, and books that are useful to us in some moments are less useful than others. But occasionally, very occasionally, a book starts out good and then gets better. Alright, so let's look at two examples of this phenomenon. First we have The Great Gatsby, which was mostly forgotten within a couple years of its publication in 1925. Many critics felt that Gatsby was inferior to F. Scott Fitzgerald's previous work, especially The Beloved This Side of Paradise. Probably the most famous critic in America at the time H. L. Menken called Gatsby obviously unimportant. The New York Herald called it a book for the season only, and Fitzgerald was devastated that it only sold about 20,000 copies. By the time he died, about 15 years later, The Great Gatsby wasn't even for sale at most bookstores. And yet it turned out not to be a book for the season only, because Gatsby has a lot to say about class and inequality and the American dream, all subjects that would become more poignant and interesting in the context of the Great Depression and then World War II and then the post-war era. Another example, if you look at the best-selling science fiction and fantasy novels of the 1990s, you will not find Octavia Butler's Parable of the Sower. It did not make the New York Times bestseller list until 27 years after its initial publication and 14 years after its author's death.  Now Parable of the Sower was critically acclaimed when it came out, but I think it has gotten better over the last 30 years because it helps us to understand that much of our now wasn't just foreseeable, it was foreseen. Science explorations about how to unify polarized communities and collaborate across difference are profoundly instructive for us. Also, like Gatsby, it's just a great story. Anyway, Hank, I bring all this up because I have recently come to understand that your two book series, an absolutely remarkable thing and a beautifully foolish endeavor, are examples of books that are getting better over time. Now I want to be very clear that I am not comparing you to F. Scott Fitzgerald or Octavia Butler, Hank, but when I first read your books, like, I did love them. I thought they were incredibly fun adventure stories with a lot to say about contemporary internet culture and especially about fame. You articulated things about celebrity and the fracturing of attention that I'd never seen in a book before. But in the years since your books were first published, I've realized that they are also about a lot of other things that I just didn't know about yet. They explore for instance how certain wealthy individuals can form complicated symbiotic relationships with groups of people who feel angry and disenfranchised to create divisive affinity networks. You explored how sudden dramatic technological shifts can be overwhelming and disorienting and destructive even as they are also thrilling and promising. In short, at least so far as your books have gotten older, they feel more and more contemporary, which is pretty astonishing. God, it's just so weird that my brother wrote those books. Anyway, Hank, I hope that 2023 will be a year when you somehow find some spare minutes to write because I really love your writing. So I'll be taking next week off, meaning that this is my last Vlogbrothers video of 2022 and I want to end the year with some weird news for you. On January 1st 2023, Vlogbrothers will be old enough to drive a car in the United States. How strange and how lovely. Hank, I'll see you on Friday.


Hey guys, welcome to School of Calisthenics. I'm Georgie and I'm going to take you through the frog stand ladder. So this is a series of different variations of frog stand and it's going to progressively get harder as you go on. The most important thing that I want you to think about is one, make sure that you warm up properly. For most of the balancing you're going to need to make sure the wrists are super super warm and then as well for the majority of the pose it's going to require openness in the hips, rotation through the trunk of your body and then great to get into the hamstrings as well. So warm up properly before attempting any of these. Also really important just to remember if it feels good it is good, if it feels bad it's bad. So listen to your body and just take things at the right pace for you. So let's see how far up the ladder you can get and we'll get started with the first one now. Okay so the first one we're going to do is just your normal frog stand or crow. I'm just going to set my hands up and I'm going to think about gripping the floor. So when I go into crow I need to think about creating tension between the hand and the floor so not letting the hand spin out. So grip with the fingers, get the knees into the tops of the arms and then from there I'm just thinking about drawing the feet up off the floor. Controlling a lot of this through the hands and I'm also not just dumping my weight down into the arms I'm pressing down hard into the floor. Okay so the next one is really similar but this is now with straight arms so I'm going to set up exactly the same. Grip, control my body through the fingers, pull the feet up and now I'm going to start to press and extend the arms. I've got to think about the hips going high and pulling my heels to my bum and that is your straight arm frog. Okay so this next one is frog stand with a bit of a twist so I'm going to take both my arms over to one side.  From there all I'm doing is rocking my weight over onto the shelf and bringing my feet up. Same pose, slightly different variation, a little bit harder, take both arms away. So I'm now not supporting that back hip with my back elbow as much. Try them both, feel the difference. Okay so this next variation I'm going to look at extending my legs so I take the arms over to both sides to one side and then I'm just going to support my hips on my arms, create the shelf. Now from there I'm going to extend the bottom leg forward and the top leg up. Important point is to not sink this shoulder into the floor so actively push down into the ground just like you would for your frog stand. Okay this next one we're going to go into a flying lizard so I'm going to set up into a lunge position and take both hands inside my front foot and then first of all it's just opening up into the hips a little bit more maybe then just having a go at getting the elbows down to the floor. You can also do this with the back knee down. From here I'm just going to take my foot inside my hand so I can be my hand outside the foot, shuffle the foot in, come on to the toes.  In all of these poses always just slightly looking forwards. If you're looking down at the floor you're more likely going to end up on the floor. Okay similar to the last one I'm going to come into a lunge position take both my hands inside the front foot but this time before going into it I'm also going to check in with the hamstrings because it requires quite a lot of hamstring flexibility as well. So you can do this pose whether or not you've got length in the back of the leg so you just need to bend the knee so don't force it extended. So once I've gone into the hips and the hamstrings just a little bit I'm going to take the shoulder under the thigh or close to the back of the knee behind the calf and then from here I'm lifting the front leg off the floor reaching it forward as I look forwards and lifting the back leg up again looking forwards not down so that I don't fall on my face. Okay so next one's called eight angle pose. I'm going to start with one leg extended out in front pull the other heel in towards me and then from here I'm going to try and get the back of this knee as high onto the shoulder as possible or anywhere above the elbow but the higher you are better. So I'm going to take the leg over the back of the arm as high as I can place this hand straight back down on the ground kind of lock it in place. So you can also try and resist the back of the shoulder against the leg to try and keep it there take the other hand onto the floor same setup that you'd use for your frog stand. Cross the ankles and then all I'm going to do is almost like head butt forward but just transition the weight forward into that frog stand and extend the legs out again looking forward I'm not dumping the weight down I'm pushing up and keeping that tension between the hands and the floor. Okay for this next one which we're going to do flying pigeon we need to make sure that we're fairly open in the hips so just make sure you've warmed up really well before trying this. Have a go to begin we'll just bring the ankle just above the knee and flex the foot and then bend your bottom leg and just see how that feels we get a nice stretch in the outer hips begin with anyway. So from the side once I've set up I'm just going to start to bend the bottom leg reach the hands forward like I'm going to go into my frog stand and hook this foot on the back of my tricep push the foot into the back of the arm and push the arms against the foot I'm going to then lift the back leg up as high as I can. What you'll find in this one is if you're not getting the hips up enough and there's not enough tension between the back of the foot and the arm your hips will sink low and the leg will go straight back rather than up so instead it'll look more like this so we need to create tension push up push through that foot that's on the back of my tricep to get the leg up nice and high and then just always with these ones go in and out of these poses really really gently so the next one we're going to do is called dragonfly and it's a really similar way setting up to come into dragonfly as it was for flying pigeon so to begin with I take the foot just on top of the other thigh and then bend down all the way to the floor really important in these ones especially because when we want the hips to be open but also make sure there's nothing funky going on in your knees you don't want to feel any sort of twisting or any discomfort the next thing we want to do is rotate the body as far as we can across and I want to take this foot above the elbow as high as I can so the foot sits above the elbow from there I set my hands up into my frog stand shape lift the hip and then extend this leg out I'm going to look towards my extended leg and then come back out just carefully release the leg and come outside okay guys so this is the last one and this is called firefly it requires a fairly decent amount of flexibility in the hamstrings so please be careful when doing it and again you can also do this one with your legs bent so you don't have to extend the legs we're going to start by thinking about getting the shoulder behind the knee so you kind of have to fold yourself up into a bit of a pretzel once you've got your shoulders behind the knees we're taking their hands down similar set up to frog I'm then going to lift my eyes up and extend the legs I'm pushing the floor away rounding out through the back pushing up looking forwards bent leg variation just draw the legs in rather than extending them I can also have a go at the legs reaching forwards but just a bit lower so different different variations of firefly so I hope you enjoyed the different variations of frog stand let us know how far along the frog stand ladder you managed to get if you're looking to get stronger and more mobile then make sure that you check out the virtual classroom at school of calisthenics.com make sure you tag us in any of the progressions we'd love to see how far and how well you do with the different variations that's it for now class dismissed


Today marks my one month anniversary since becoming a in-person sewing teacher. I mean if you guys would have told me 15 years ago that I would be sitting around teaching people in Charlotte, North Carolina how to sew, I would have said you're out of your mind. It was what? But here I am teaching sewing classes at a local fabric and knit shop called Stash. I have acquired about 10 students and each one of them are just so near and dear to my heart. I had no idea that I would just love this truly as much as I do. And so today I'm here to tell you three things that I learned since becoming a sewing teacher because it has been quite eye-opening. The first thing is the variety of what people want to sew. I assumed that I was going to be getting people who wanted to mend clothes. Maybe people who wanted to make clothes. Boy am I wrong. People have such passions that they look to sewing to fulfill. I have one student. She is 11. Like how jealous am I of her that at 11 she is learning this amazing skill. I hope she sticks with it forever and ever. But she's 11. She and her grandmother go thrifting. They go to Goodwill all the time and all she wants to do is refashion. And I am just like, yes. You are a girl after my own heart. I love refashions. Every time she signs up for class I wear a refashion garment because I feel like I want her to look at me and think, oh cool. Like she's doing it. Most of the time she's kind of just like, yeah okay fine. But I'm excited about it. Her very first project that we sewed was a skirt that she designed. It was an elastic waist skirt.  And then peeking out of the bottom hem would be a white sheet. We made that. She put it on. She loved it. It was incredible. I also have a guy who I guess, I don't know what he is for real, but I'm guessing like late 20s, early 30s. And he wants to sew like, think of like hiking, rock climbing, fishing gear. Think of like nylon bags and waterproofing and things of that nature. Things with lots of clips that clip on to different things. That's what he wants to learn how to sew. He came to class with samples of things that he had purchased that he'd like to sew on his own. He had questions from a Reddit thread that he had been following. So he has already done like a deep dive into this as a possibility and then found the store and me to help him execute it on an actual sewing machine.  I've never sewn a bag like that before, but I can teach him how to sew and then we can figure out how to make the bags together. Another example is a woman who gets Ankara fabric from a supplier in Ghana, and she wants to open a Netsy shop. She wants to make Ankara garments. She's got like a like a grown on sleeve cardigan type of situation. Very simple, very basic, kind of like a robe-ish type of thing that we're working on together. She's got these super cute shorts she wants to sell. So she's got a lot of really fun ideas and just needs somebody to help her execute like how to learn how to do it. She was one of those who just hit the ground running on her own and then sort of reached a bit of a wall and was like, no I actually need to learn the techniques if I'm going to do this. So she came in with some knowledge, some things that she was like getting by with, but weren't the right way, but definitely worked in a pinch. And so people like that are also really inspiring to me because they just go for it, you know what I mean. And so that's actually a good segue into the second thing I learned and that is fear is real. People are afraid of failing and I think that because that's not inherently who I am, I am not necessarily someone who's afraid to try something new, who is afraid of failing. I will go after it and if I can't catch on, then I'll just you know let it go.  So in my sewing journey as well, that lack of fear enabled me to learn a lot really quickly because I was trying projects that were probably outside of my skill set, but I was learning so much from everything. But there are those who are truly afraid of failing and of even trying something new. I have so many people, men and women who sit down next to me at that sewing machine and go, I'm nervous, I'm scared. And I'm like, there's nothing to be afraid of, nothing about what we're going to do with this machine is permanent. All of it can be undone with a seam ripper, right? But there is that just inherent like I'm working with a machine. I'm doing something completely foreign. All of these words and terms are like another language. And there's a real fear there. Hopefully by the end of at least our first class, maybe a few of classes, they have let go of some of that fear, but I do have one student who says she will never be able to sew without me by her side, which we know that's not true because I can't just like follow her around for the rest of her life. But that's where she is, you know, she likes having me there as a sort of comfort to make sure that she's not going to go astray. So we're working on building up her confidence in addition to teaching her how to sew. So many life lessons are coming up in my classes. That's another thing that I'm learning is sewing is not just sewing, right?  But we're also talking about failures and if you fail or if you mess up how that's perfectly okay. And we're talking about how like I had one student, he's a high schooler who was trying to sew around a curve for the very first time and he was picking up his needle and his presser foot. So the garment is just like willy-nilly going everywhere and then resetting it and putting it back down. And I'm asking him, why are, why is your brain telling you that that's what you need to do? And he's like, because I need to go back. I need to go back a few inches or whatever it is and redo that. And I'm like, we can't go back like that. The past is the past, right? What we've already stitched down is stitched down and we can either stop completely and undo it and then go back or we just keep powering through and try and fix our mistakes in another way. But I thought when I said that to him, obviously I was specifically talking about sewing, but I'm also thinking about him being 17 years old, right? And like on the verge of like his whole life ahead of him. He wants to learn how to sew so that he can go to design school and like he has such a unique style, such a unique personality, but he's also got learning deficiencies and things that he struggles with in order to fit into the, you know, school structure that we have set up here in the United States. So as I'm saying that to him and talking about going back and fixing the past and all of that, I'm wondering probably for no good reason if any of that is like resonating with him in terms of life skills as well. Yeah. So it's just been so inspiring. I cannot tell you watching someone wind a bobbin for the very first time will change your life. We do that how many times? A few times a week maybe for some of us that are sewing a bunch and it's just become so mundane. I had someone who was using a rotary cutter.    And then of course, seeing them finish their projects, there's nothing like seeing someone hold up something that they have completely sewn on their own and just the amount of pride that they have. So it's just been a real pleasure and a real joy. And I just wanted to share some of those stories with you guys. I think no matter where you are in your sewing journey, hopefully you were inspired by them. If you've been sewing for 1000 years, maybe you like me are like, you know what, I need to stop and enjoy the little things again. And if you've been sewing for one week, hopefully you found a little bit of validation and some of the feelings that you're feeling and just know that it does get easier. It really does. And that fear starts to wash away and the pride starts to take over the fear and the confidence starts to take over the fear. And who knows who you will become one day with your new sewing skills. So I am just having an absolute blast teaching sewing. So we're one month in, I will keep updating you guys and checking in with you guys and letting you know as things progress. But yeah, it's been really great. I'd love to hear from you some stories about either when you first started sewing, maybe your first sewing teacher, maybe if you were a sewing teacher, share some stories that you have that are very memorable from your students. I would love to just kind of like be a little bit, you know, in the fields in the comments with this video. So leave those in the comment section below. But that is going to do it for me today, y'all. Thank you so much for watching. I will see you all very soon. Bye!


Welcome to the Wizards Forum 2023. I'm delighted now to be joined by the new chair of this whole event taking place. So you're now the chair, big responsibilities. What would you say they are and what is your expectations and plans? So first I have to say that it's a great honour and privilege for me and for my country to chair the Wizards Forum this year. So what are the expectations I hope to meet a lot of people from all over the world to exchange experience, to learn from their practices, also to share our best practices and lessons learned and to see how we can work together to make this world a better place for everyone. When you talk of best practices, what do you mean? Best practices, things that work in our countries, things that help us in the digitalisation processes, how we make sure that everybody is included in the digitalisation, in the digital work we are facing nowadays. But as mentioned, not only the best practices are the ones that count but also the lessons learned so that we will not make the same mistakes. At the end of this summit, what would you like to take away? What would be your best hopes? My best hopes for the end of this summit. I hope that we will come up with some new projects from new initiatives. Just watching at the exhibition now, I had several new ideas. But most of all, I would like to make sure that we are not speaking only about regulation but we are speaking about good practices by design and human rights by design and so on. So looking forward and very excited about this forum. The new chair of WISIS 2023. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you.


t said a good thing which is the when when the wind percentage is in that space Players believe that there's always a chance and it comes down to the dice and the player skill rather the inherent arm strength Perfect. Absolutely. It it minimizes feel bads, right? Where you feel like well, there's nothing I could have done Yeah Yeah, which by the way the more feel bads that happen the more players leave the game Like that's just how that works get your teeth kicked in long enough players will leave not every player Some people don't mind getting their teeth kicked. Some people have fun even on a lose I'm talking in the aggregate Yeah People you're always correct. You're always going to bleed players But you want to minimize the bleed, right? And having people have frequent bad play experiences is not a great way to minimize the bleed right, yeah, I've always thought like gristle gore and Etc was more of an issue for casual players Of course players Petra facts and more tech are a great example of something that's terrible for the casual Yeah competitive players will figure out how to crack that nut right and we'll know how to play around it Casual players will swing right into that 40 block of more tech and get obliterated Yep Yep, right. Yeah Um, there is another benefit to the fat medal as we're talking about it. Sure That um, and it's not just this like perception of hope Or this perception of equality There's also, uh, it prevents po the poisoning of the well Okay Okay Because what happens is is that when you get a skew right Something that is going to skew heavy one direction It is going to have a 70 to an 80 wind ratio What happens is is that the meta has to respond to that Yeah, and so the the well gets poisoned Because what happens is is that lists if they're not that They're anti they're anti that right This was the cycle in magic the gathering when affinity, right? Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, this is the affinity cycle So it's the poisoning of the well and so what it does is it It has nothing to do with Um with the viability of those other things right It's the presence of the one bad apple Ruins the entire data set, right? Yeah It puts artificial constraints on everybody else's Build slash play experience slash fun slash whatever you want to think about it, right? Because if you're not answering that thing you're losing, right? So like an example of this is like when I was building fire slayer lists earlier this year, right? Like this summer when I was looking at doing ash conf with my fire slayers Because of the presence of rat trap I had to run the the The banner of the world dragon like the four plus immunity to spells. Yeah, I did not have a choice Because of the because of that reality was so heavy in the meta There was no option but to run the banner sure I'll say for the most part I think now we've avoided most of that poisoning like I agree Because I think right now the game is largely in that space But slanesh was doing that. I I don't disagree I'm just saying that like I think this FAQ will solve that and slash was already trending down by the way And I think it will continue to probably trend down and settle somewhere reasonable You know like you're you're there's a couple still outside the the sort of range of where we'd want them, right? Um OBR like bone daddies are probably a bit too high that we'll have to time will tell I mean who knows. Yeah Like I but my strong belief is they'll probably trend up a bit too high and need to be adjusted Uh things like visa chaos are trending too low. You know what I mean like and and uh, so there's still there's still room to push But a lot of stuff is in that middle ground now like we're in a good place trending better Right, which is good like that's an excellent place, right? Yeah, that's interesting the the 40 to 60 I at kind of Definitely re-orient How I've been thinking about this. I'm trying to figure out why that feels Almost too broad of a brush to be painting with regard to an ideal So tell me well, here's my argument. Yeah, I'll say it this way. Yeah Stormcaster or 43, right? Yeah. Is that your experience with them? No, yeah, we talked about this earlier today. Not not even remotely I think they have some clear and very evidence issues But there's a huge but The reason I'm saying that is because given the stats we currently have and the source that like where we can pull them from Yeah, and we know that there's some cloudiness in that data That's not a judgment on llv or on anything like that. Please don't read me saying that I have nothing But the utmost respect for that man's tireless work at getting us the most awesome data set I'm just saying that there are invisibilities in there. You can't regress for right, right, right that like Drawing the fatter middle at 40 to 60 Is is is the right place to cut it? Reflective of what we can expect to actually have happen And by the way, if you when you chop off like slanesh assume you can like handle Assume that we can we can whatever happens something happens with with the bone daddies, right? And they don't become a sort of new person at that rate the less of those top breakers you have The more the people in the 40s start trending up just a couple percentages Yeah, totally Right because they stop auto losing to the current bad boy on the block Yeah, right because the 50 60 the the 55 to 60 people will have a shot against the You know like the the the the meta breaker, right, right But the 40 the 40s people just basically will get their teeth kicked in Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I There've been a number of examples like this over the years I tend to think corn Has that time's been an example of this where you look at At least when the lov stats existed when rate for corn It was a little deceptive with regard to General ship and what you could actually get done with that faction Yeah, there are a number of examples like that over the years. So yeah, yeah, that helps a lot Yeah, and I like I want to highlight something that alex is saying here and he says well, you know, how do we factor in The you know the the things that pull hobbyists and old hammer You know in the element that I would add to that would be the like newer players Like I know that sounds really funny, but like newer players are going to play the game more badly on average They just are because they don't have the experience Sure, they don't know and and if there are some armies that are just entry level armies That are going to pull people into them either because people like default to having those models And so they throw them on the table or that like their stormcasts are they're an easy starter army Those values are going to trend lower. They just are Yeah Sure, and and you can adjust for some of that like again lv does regress for some of this Like he's very good at looking at things like being able to filter out mirror matches He looks at things like like one of the things he mentioned today that I think is a great piece of regression Was he was looking at the performance of the bone daddies against other armies that were high Performing played by played by skilled players who had lots of five and ohs Yeah, right that's a great piece of regression and you can see that they're over performing within that cohort And does that make sense? So right because you can filter for like more experienced players by looking at players who have A list of who have a higher number of five and ohs in their record right with a particular force And so when and then he can and then he can find the subset of matches where they're playing bone daddies And if the bone daddy's are tending to win more in those matches Then they're over like if they're if they're still killing it at 70% nearly in those matches, they're over performing Yeah, right. Yeah, that's a great piece of statistical regression Because that doesn't eliminate things like the new player problem where somebody doesn't know how to deal with with Right with like what the bone daddy's doing and they just you know steam roll them, right? Right So you mentioned the the idea that a lot of us just want to have that feeling of having a shot If we're not necessarily we want to feel like it's not it's not just like this weird amorphous thing There's a real tangible value to it. We want to feel like our skill Yes, a good game is where our skill decides Some percentage of the outcome that is tangible It's never going to be 100 because it's still a dice game and they're still going to be in tangibles But I feel like that's a determinative factor right So I haven't played nearly as many games, you know people like shaw and jake they would It'd be much more interesting, but you know playing a lot of tournaments over the last four years and That's been my just overwhelming experience You know very like I don't know eight at nine out of 10 games played All reflective of this where even if you're going up against a quote unquote better list on paper the overwhelming majority of matchups tend to come down to Your choices player skill general ship Sometimes, you know, yeah dice actually can be a variable If things are really going wrong, you know skewing on both ends, but Yeah, in my experience at least it does have An enormous impact on outcomes in this game. Now, you know, you can run into those True rock paper scissors where you get out dropped by fire slayers on duality of death and good game You know because you have a list that just can't do anything about say two bricks of hearth guard sitting on the objectives with However many Volkite researchers that have tunneled and pinned you in your deployment, you know things things like that will happen But I've got it to be, you know where those true rock Crushes scissors to be very rare So that's that's all this is that a fair brief. I mean, what do you guys think about that? Yeah, I think that's right, you know, it's so There was a Jared in the comments just said where the best general should take the day And I in my answer that would be yes, where the best general tends To be the win. Yes, right Because there will always be a bad matchup.  And I was like nope. This is fine. And then he eats like six mortal wounds to the face, right? And I'm just like yep great. I took you know Like he got shot by laser beams out of a lumen arc in a hurricane And it was out It was something like out of all of the mortal wound shooting that I got hit with it amounted to I don't know I want to say it was like He rolled really hot. I want to say it was 11 mortal wounds. That sounds right something in that range And uh, I saved two of them on four up six up, you know, that's gonna happen Right like that's that's not the expected statistical norm, right? But sometimes that's what's going to happen Yep So One of my friends is He wants he's sort of a combination of johnny and spike, you know, he he likes to play unique things The worst he also was interested in trying to go. Yeah My mortal enemy Hey, hey Yes, Tom, that's your that's your psychographic profile. I know it is it is I am a combo johnny spike So he like he he likes to yeah, sometimes he feels like he's a jack one high personality so The story that he's at least telling himself is that he wants to have the feeling of you know being able to go being able to compete on top tables and But he wants something unique and snow flower smoke like exactly the best of both worlds and I get that I played worse Right, so let's take uh, we were talking about daughters of kane earlier Now they've had a very high win rate. Yep for a long time now Looks like they're 60 60% right now. So maybe the operational line of that that fat middle Let's say If you're a doc player and you think that going into 2020 Your reality is going to change greatly And that you know, you're going to be faced more with with more durability And more more of a hard counter out there Then then then what doc can can respond to you know, that doc has more built in Potentially limitations than some other books to adapt to uh to a meta This is not very well expressed But what I'm getting out here is like I hear all the time a lot of people talk about sort of this notion of rock paper scissors And that you know, some armies don't have the the capacity to adapt So how do you guys think about this notion of rock paper scissors? In a healthy ecosystem And like what is Yeah, the weighting on that like how much of it is just a necessary reality Some of it is a necessary reality Even yeah, so take something like the easy analog here is magic and because just to make it explicit Sorry Vince that like I hear often this notion of sort of the concept of rock paper scissors Aka this kind of this sucks like It runs counter to the idea of having a fair shot Like I'm just going to run up. I'm just going to run up against a lot of nergal slaves to darkness and obr And that's going to counter what I have been running while I would like to run Therefore and I don't have the money or the time to go out and buy another army or paint another army Therefore, why should I even care? Why should I even try? Okay, so let me see if I can unpack it Yeah, real quick. I'll I'll be I'll be fast. The answer is to do basically what magic aims for is when this gets right I don't know how saying magic always hits it, but I think it's what they aim for So in magic you have like control and you know, you have like You know like fast burn slide type of damage and various things mid-range and all this type of stuff, right? And These match very well to the to the types of these are the rocks and papers and scissors of that, right? like Burn fast burn speed burn will tend to kill Like control if it can get out ahead of it and bring it down fast enough Control will tend to outstop, you know mid-range or whatever in mid-range will tend to be Burner. I don't know if I'll have that right off my memory, but that's the kind of idea, right? Okay, so That counter other play stats That are stronger against it and that's the trick. It's okay when it's just a tilt in your favor It's bad when it is rock paper scissors When it is that game you're describing Rock always beats You know scissors, right? It always smashes them. There's not like good scissors. It's not like You know what I mean? Like it is a one-to-one if you're in that true scenario the problem is people use it to People use it to that term to uh Almost like unequivocally or correct If you're in the situation where that is truly the thing where when you set down and you set up Their list is such a hard stop to your that your scissors and they truly are rock And you have a the scissors has a zero percent chance to beat rock When it's not it's a bad play experience, right if we get to that point Then then that's bad Yeah, that's what I was trying to say is like at least in my limited experience over the last four years of a lot of tournaments tons and hundreds and hundreds of games The vast majority of the time that never happens. I agree completely. It very rarely happens very very rarely and trending much downward by the Yeah, yeah Because now but you're always going to have some soft element of it, right? Like there'll be times when Control is kind of in ascendancy and magic based on like the card pool that's available And so that makes you know mid-range or whatever it is naturally kind of weaker Good mid-range decks can still win. They're just kind of starting off knowing that they're playing against They're going a little bit against the tide Right, and I think that can be the same thing as long as we have that softly Like, oh, there's a lot of You know, like there's a lot of offense In the meta right now like where things are really powerful. So like Mid-range moderate armor blob control isn't a good counter Right because you're the offensive units will just plow through them and peel your whole unit. You'll have nothing to say about it. Yeah Does that make sense because like that's probably a strat like flood the board with four and five up dudes is probably a strat, right? Yeah, yeah Just kind of the meat strategy, right? right Fill the board with meat and and see if you can win it like if if offense is in ascendancy Uh, you're on the back foot if defense is in ascendancy You're on the front foot because they're going to be hard pressed to stop you. You know what?  So my point is like as long as it's just a I don't know how you define that percentage But if but my my argument would be if the fat middle is holding true in outcomes Then we're in the right place vis-a-vis rock paper scissors Because if it's not what you're going to see happen is those skew farther apart As certain armies who can only generate certain strats just lose outright and certain armies who are in the ascendancy strat just win outright right Right, so the fat middle is an emergent property of that not happening to a strong degree Yeah, that makes sense Tom's you anything to add to that or? no I got that one of the frequent discussions is this notion of a sideboard and And or two list formats and we're all generally a fan Two list you love it. Love it. That's the best format So what yeah, I wanted to hear your guys views on why you why you think it's such a good format From particularly from an ecosystem standpoint a healthy fat middle ecosystem standpoint if in fact it is I've also heard arguments that it that it runs counter that it can Increase that it can lead to the wrong incentives Now I don't necessarily know if that's going to be the case for The majority of your terminal players like if we look at the Nashcom player base There's a lot of people there who Are say semi competitive like yeah, you know, we want to have a shot, but we're not necessarily there We're not going to win the tournament. We're going there to drink beer. Have a good time with our friends It's yada yada yada. Oh, by the way, that's that's most tournaments. That's most tournaments, right? Even adept a con even adept con 90 of people there are just there to have a good time hanging out friends Enjoy the con and roll dice And there's 20 people that are actually competing for the podium Yeah of the 200 Right, but I bet I certainly have heard this argument from a number of people that those kinds of Formats sideboard to this format Can incentivize Greater skew that is it can increase the number Of games that are happening Where there's a harder skew aka More bad play experiences more of these what we've been calling an aberrations rock Rock smashing scissors. Yeah There is no way I agree like in my opinion Like the person with two skews loses to the person who has like two balance lists ready to answer the skews in the meta Right. And so like so the problem so the the problem is this so we talked about like the the poisoning the well, right? And the reality is is that what happens is is that if you have a skew Um, what it does is that if it's so strong that everything else begins to have to adapt Right. Yeah, um When you have a two-list format what that allows you to do is to build that silver bullet for that skew So you have a silver bullet that is a hard answer to that skew And then you build a generalist list And so what happens is is you play that generalist list and you can take most all comers Until you hit that skew and then you just knock out of the water Hmm And so what it allows you to do is actually customize your what you're bringing to deal with outliers Yeah To deal with things you can't normally deal with by building weird weird adjusted like weird skew lists There's also going to be some variants and factions due to well one main variable probably is Available model range sure worst, you know model range and rules with those models that You know Some factions people would say have less adaptability To counter certain skews. It's true. It's true. So what's going to happen is that in that meta environment? It will favor armies like slaves to darkness cities of uh cities Yeah In a storm cast it'll favor any of those armies that can have basically what we call transformational sideboards And so what And it would be like secondary lists that can completely flip your play style on its head Or go in directions that you don't normally do like so an example of this would be like even fire slayers have this fire slayers have like a heavy bodies like Rockhard lists and like there's some really good like shooting fire slayers lists out there Like the one list that I was looking like when I was building for nashcon Last year. I was building a hearthgard berserker Like death star list, which is the standard one. Yeah, and and I had a super heavy shooting skew fire slayer list Yeah So for to deal with the things like slanash that needed to be dealt with before I got into melee And he started firing depravity off of me Yeah Yeah, I mean my answer would be ultimately I like the two lists better than the sideboard because sideboarding It's just really kind of a hard thing to do things don't swap one for one like magic cards, you know Yeah Whereas the two list also locks you in and you play you get to play that fun blind man's beloved at the beginning It just and and even even armies like iron jaws with the most limited unit selection of the game can play very different armies on two lists right as As as what's his name showed I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I don't remember his name crap What was his name the person who did really well with iron jaws at at uh, nashcon Gosh darn it Oh, yeah, yeah Oh my god.  I know I know I'm so sorry.  I'm not talking about kale, right? No, it's not. No, it wasn't it wasn't kale No, it's oh wait. He doesn't play now. It's not it's not school Which is who plays ij all the time.  We're gonna be murdered for not remembering him I'm sorry it advanced your army was great. You did a great job. Um, anyway Uh too many things and too long of talking at any rate, um The uh, yeah, so like the Last thing I want to talk about Here, I mean we could go for hours and hours on this, but I don't want to bore everyone to death Uh, but here's one of the last things I wanted to talk about and we can hit a couple other issues If you guys have got some So did we did we cover did we cover the multi-list format tyler and why it answers this or did you want more discussion on that? Yeah, I think that's fine. I think we got it. All right. I want to talk lenticular design real quick Okay, all right Here's lenticular design Uh Lenticular design is this concept that mark rosewater came up with and it was the idea. It's an idea around complexity So here's the basic concept. You can take a single in his example. It was a magic card but in our example it could be a war scroll And you can say how complex is this and the answer you will get back Will be varied. That's not surprising, right? Right and One of the ways that could be varied is because a new player might look at a war scroll Like let's say the old plague monks Okay, right or whatever you can pick whatever you like. Let's just pick let's pick new archion That seems fair. Sure. He's a brand new scroll a new player is going to look at like archion and say that is a very complex war scroll Right. It has like 10 entries has like 10 things on it a um A uh an experienced player might look at that and go yeah, that's not bad Right because they they could internalize that data more easily. Yeah, let's be limited. Um, you can't do enough Okay, well, they can just look at it and say like yeah, that's not that they're rating the quality They're just saying like it's not complex by the standards of the information I can handle because I have internalized a huge amount of game Terms and and everything else. That's all second nature to me as an experienced player, right? So I understand what all this means. You can unpack it quickly. All right. That's not surprising Okay, right, right. The surprising thing was when the opposite would happen Okay When you show uh in the in his example it was a card to somebody And the new player or the less experienced player thinks it's simple Yeah, and the more experienced player thinks it's complex Yeah, okay. They see all the interactions because they see all the interactions exactly yes So this can happen often and with johnny type cards in magic one with nothing is the classic example Like pay basically a very small amount of black mana and you and the effect of the card is discard your hand That's it three words Right and like why would anybody Less experienced players are gonna look at that and go this card simple and stupid Right whereas an experienced player looks at that and realizes the various combos and things that can happen Okay, so wait. I can put this in my graveyard and yeah, sure I can just jump my only end of my graveyard and use it for recycling effects and blah blah blah Okay, tie if you're listening your name finally came to me. I'm so sorry. Oh, yeah Ty's been playing stormcast, right? He hasn't been playing uh, he had he had iron jaws at uh lesions on the gas Oh, I didn't see it. I know that's gone. Yeah, we're assholes, but I didn't realize you're talking about ty. Sorry ty Sorry bud. All right at any rate What's interesting to me when this discussion comes up in uh in warhammer Is I don't think it happens much on the scrolls because It's it's actually pretty rare scrolls that have like that kind of hidden level johnny-esque complexity to them Don't always battalions Yes, where it comes up in in in here is in the synergy and in the the The cross nature of the thing the Exactly where uh, a newer player will look at like marauders and go Marauders are very simple and probably not very good. They seem overcosted for what they are Right Whereas an experienced player will look at marauders and go wow Actually, I have a pretty complex set of decisions to make around all the different potential buff pieces I could throw at them and synergize with them and what's the right army I can build that utilizes that without me wanting to also use those buff pieces on something else Right, they they understand that there's like a high amount of actual complexity in the decisions there Because you can't just say like a lot one of the mistakes a lot of people make and I see in their list building Is they over They overcompensate synergy Right Yes, they overvalue Synergy well They think this unit's really good when it has these six buffs on it And this unit's really good when it has these six buffs on it And this unit's really good when it has these six buffs on it and I can generate all six of those buffs Yeah But you can't do it to all three units Right and yeah, and so what ends up happening is they build this army And then what they when they get on the table they realize that they can't actually like one unit is good The rest of your units that are actually fighting the rest of the battle are bad trash Yeah, exactly And thank you chris deal in the comments said furies From s2d are a great example furies, baby. Yes. I am completely. Oh my god, chris.  I'm trying to think uh, they cost a hundred points for six of them right and Uh, and and you look at them and you're like, okay that they can fly I guess their attacks are like meh ish at best But of course that sneaky little devil's ability where you can pick this unit to fight You can say it will cower instead of fighting So this unit must make a normal move and must retreat You realize like wow that is Uh That is like So ungodly tactically rich and powerful Yeah In the bad decisions it puts your opponent into the more mobile skinks Yes, yes 12 inch that flying skinks that can retreat back over the other thing you're trying to screen out that then opens the charge Yeah, yeah, or or you you ride you charge them forward get into combat And then retreat out and then leave over top of them Yeah, it's an objective or yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah.  They're an excellent example of that sort of hidden lenticular design where like the actual newer players won't or less experienced players I don't want to just say new people like people who less experienced won't see the hidden value, right? Yeah. Yeah exactly Yep, so thank you chris very much. No, I love furies. I it's a great example My only my only sad part about furies is that you can't mark them. That's truly what makes me sad I wish they could have marked I just I mean like furies used to be able to have a mark and I just wish they still could I think I think that as an aside we'll talk about this next week I think cultists and furies like all of that stuff from war cry Not only lacking a mark, but also lacking undivided was a huge missed opportunity. Sure, but we'll cover that next week Yeah, um, yes, uh bar tech said things that have a six inch pregame move. Yeah Yeah, I'm ten days. Spoilers a bit like Or like all of the spoilers uh any unit into spoilers the d three of them. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so like I think it's just it's a fascinating element of I like that kind of stuff and it can be it can be hidden I think that that's a cool thing that I I don't think people often think about And I love that existing in the game. I'm actually happy to see them exploring Stuff like that a little bit on stuff like furies and and I'll be interested to see what they do with like Thunders and ko that's probably another good example, right? Hmm. Um, so just like I think there's I think there's rich space here I wouldn't want it ever to become you got to be careful with it though Because that's the other point of lenticular design the kind of mark talks about that if it gets too heavy Yeah, it ends up being a big problem because the it becomes its own game Yes, and that functionality is a natural barrier of entry to newer players that will catch them out Yeah, right. So it's fun. That's not a good play experience when they get caught out and lose games because right It's fun and you want some of it you want a little bit so that experienced players can have that joy of discovery But boy is it on a razor's edge, right? Because if you if you go too far Then it suddenly becomes this sort of nightmare scenario for new people, right? And this is what I was kind of talking about. Uh, I mean, this is the language that would describe the black coach Remember when I was talking about in earlier at the beginning of the show That's talking about how like it brings utility that nothing else in the army has and what I was articulating in that Was I was talking about it? There's lenticular design and how it has been created with the abilities that it has that it has functionality that no other unit in that army has Yep, uh glave race stalkers by the way Also in that space interestingly enough And when was the last time you saw a unit of those on the table? The last time I played night haunt like two weeks ago That's I don't even know how to respond to that but And uh, and they all died horribly uh at any rate ogres had something to say as they should sure The anything else we want to touch on Like my summation would be would be I think we're in a good place trending better Most of the fat middle good design. I think there's some interesting elements We can continue to explore here and I'd love to see like development formalized as a as a role within the the Sort of shop Yeah, and you're and you're differentiating from the your understanding of the Current role of play testers that you think there's still correct. Oh play testers need to exist Sure, absolutely. They are your stress testers. Absolutely. Yeah Yeah, so like the difference would be in the events start about this like when we would design stuff Vince would just go hog wild And just make things go ham on and then he would and he would just go ham on it And then he would turn it over to me and I had documented every single bonus in the game And the exact range so I could look and see like the columns of abilities And see like what the range of bonusing is And to see if like what he has added has broken it or break it broken the actual like The range compared to other comparable things Yeah Yeah, and that's just one example of that type of testing another type of testing is like the blue ocean like building where you like This is where math hammer sits Like you need somebody that that that has a good sense of Of what things are capable of and can just go and just kind of like design lists in blue ocean format And really try to to aim to break the system Sure, and one of the challenges is a lot of this stuff is hard to math Some of the things we've talked about with some of these chambers have very squiggy weird abilities that don't sit neatly in math And that's where the challenges come up often, right?  I can do x y and not only that But ab and c right I'm not maybe I miss a time. I'm not sure if you explain the I don't people may not be familiar with the blue ocean strategy or blue ocean concept like you're like You're out in space That nobody else is exploring. Yeah, right?  Yeah In warhammer prior to that right and then suddenly alpha bunkering like the power Was realized and it became a thing. Yeah um And so what I would say is that you need does you need developers that are willing to explore spaces that no one else is in Mm-hmm and and and really like take what the designers have done and and Uh, and just run it through the mill and see what it generates Um, yeah That's what I would say. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Yeah As we've been talking about staring at lov's latest looking at these uh match wind percentages And yeah, when you look at it through that 60 to 40 lens Uh, it certainly gives me Uh, an even stronger feeling that we're in the best place or headed toward the best place we've ever been Yeah, exactly.  Uh, this entire list Is fantastic. Like I would happily play all the elo and I didn't that phones, but you know Happily and it's it's the it's like everything is in this range Of 40 to 60. Yeah, it's an embarrassment of riches in that area right now Yeah, right Sarah seraphon are underrated seraphon have great right even still Well, and the reality is we will probably see something from them in the new year, right? Yeah. So like absolutely, you know I I have that's such a rich range. It would be hard to imagine that not doing some good stuff. So It's uh, and that's even if we don't get new models. You know what I mean? Like in a world where they decide to to to Get rid of some stuff and add some stuff. That's even better for them But yeah, I agree. It's it that's always the lens I've thought of it as and I know that might seem kind of wide to people But I agree there's just too many other with something alex that earlier with like given all these other variables That's kind of how we have to to look at it, right? um, and that And and that doesn't mean by the way that we can't still continue to tweak stuff Maybe very let me be tom for a moment and be very clear about something Like just because somebody's at like 41.2 percent Doesn't mean we're like, okay. Well, we're done. They're in the middle. Yay. Who cares stop working That's not that's not at all what we're saying, right? We're saying there the game is an off kilter. Everything's happening within tolerance But that also means like what I would what that then says we look at Standard levels of deviations yearly things is we go. Who's at 41? Okay. Let's focus some more attention on them Where do we need to maybe tweak a little right? And the people who are it and they get a different sort of attention than the people who are at 59 Yeah, right. Yeah And you just use that to kind of guide how you're thinking and kind of just slowly you're always pushing Things are always going to be trying to get wonky But as long as it's in there games in a healthy place and then we just you know, things push within normals, right? I definitely think that's an important point about the the offense versus defense Just been an ongoing point you guys have made in the show many times and how overwhelmingly I think the For your span we've had so far supports that that perspective There's a reason why I good Yeah, no good. I'm done. Go ahead. I just said there's a reason why I choose defensive armies. Yeah Yeah Because if your pieces survive to do more things you win Right. It's that it's that easy Right and and if and if the needle isn't tuned just right on defense It just wins. Yeah Yeah, yeah, so definitely. Yeah, still room for improvement in that area agreed So there you go. That's uh, and I think like meta, you know predictions what we're going to see over the next couple Let's let's end this now on a little bit of a hard meta prediction Give me something about the meta you predict over the next six months between this FAQ and the next Ring a ding ding We'll predict a thing. Here we go Tom, what is your it could be anything. You don't have to predict the whole meta I'm just saying make a meta based prediction over the next six months Shooting and anti shooting is going to come back strong He's strong. He just stole mine. Yeah, that's um, and and what's the trigger for that? Uh nervel slaves to darkness On one hand on one end of the spectrum Um, which will be strong anti shooting. Sure Um, and I would also say I think that uh fire slayers have the potential to sit in this as well a strong anti shooting. Sure um and For strong on the other end of the spectrum, you're going to have ko And arguably zinge. I suppose who's doing shooting magic. Yeah Yep, and so and like the in the most powerful tools in this matchup will be line of sight blocking things okay So it won't be bonuses or it won't be penalties to hit even though that'll be strong It'll be line of sight blocking and so like in nervel slaves darkest Uh, the spoilers being able to shut off line of sight with terrain Um, we'll be really powerful and uh and with that uh Um fire slayers, I say both their wall and they can ally in wizards that can take walls that block line of sight Um, and so they have the penitential to shut off portions of the battlefield because of blocking line of sight. Okay Tyler Yeah, mine was going to be pretty similar, but definitely would be the ongoing love of the trees was was would add that I definitely could see a world where their numbers their percentage rate goes up Given the nature of how that army works and the the toolkit that they have I think that you know, there was this Someone initial consensus that that was a weak quote-unquote weak book When it came out and I bought into that a little bit too much initially as well And the numbers are supporting it And in the minds of a lot of people But I think it is a Yeah, it's a it's a faction that could have more tools than most to do reasonably well In this potential upcoming meta of more Durability and more range damage whether that's magic or shooting or some combination. Nice Uh Cities will trend up as people unlock actually the best combos out of this incredibly complicated Rich depth book the hollow heart. Oh, we didn't mention the hollow heart got it to fix. Sorry. I forgot. Oh, yeah Yeah, there was a number of those corn reapers of vengeance. Oh, yeah, that was really just Re-clarifying what was already there before but you know, yeah The yes hollow heart is now only the wounds actually suffered which yay. Good. How it should have been fixed originally. Um Fine to find fix to find fix. I still think they will continue to trend up Uh, and I think oh and no no bridge fix. Oh, yeah The lack of a bridge fix. I think we'll skew A number of shooting lists up Which is good, uh, and I think slanesh will trend down Coming to rest probably somewhere still in like I'm gonna I'm gonna say somewhere still in the the low fifties Hmm. There you go. That's that's right. I'd buy that especially as like a and I don't know how much ko or zeech would affect that they could they could knock it lower, but there you go City's trending up Slanesh trending down. There's my and and and I couldn't be happier Like to be clear, um, I'm predicting meta density I get you I get you what what do you mean by that? Like I'm not necessarily like To be clear, I'm not saying that those are going to be the like the king of the pile more of that stuff But but the meta density is going to get really high on either shooting or anti shooting Like they are going to have a poisoning the well effect that people are going to have to skew against Because you you have things like obr's catapults You have things like that that are going to begin that are going to have this Steady pressure to incentivize blocking line of sight or Or vice versa Removing key and strategic pieces And so it's going to it's going to push back and forth along those lines, I think So we'll see I mean we're on the edge of potentially two armies that are that could vastly do shake up meta performance Yeah, because they're both very orthogonal to how everything else lays right now, right? Yeah Yeah, and so like it'll be very interesting to see What that what the bird man and the boat people bring to the table Birds and boats. Oh, that should be the name of the box birds and boats All right, folks. Well, thank you guys for doing the show. It's really It should be the flock of a feather Right. It's like flying and shooting No, no, that's that's a no duck hunt I think it should be title. I think it should be called untitled goose game. All right, so Uh, for all of you out there watching, we certainly appreciate it. Give it a like if you like this Subscribe, of course, as always I should start saying that at the end. That's the thing you're supposed to do on youtube Uh, I I've heard good lesson to learn almost six years into doing this Uh, something about smashing some buttons. Smash some buttons somewhere all the buttons until the say the good thing happens I don't know. Oh, but at any rate. No, seriously. Thank you. Tyler. Thank you to all of you who are watching We very much appreciate it as always. We'll see you next wednesday