I'm going to go straight on to Bruce Katz, the director of the Metropolitan Policy Program at Brookings, and furthermore, one of that rarefied select group of Americans who has a passport and has for some time, and particularly has worked on comparisons between American and European cities. So it couldn't be better placed to give us a perspective from Washington. OK, it's a pleasure to be here. And I think at Brookings, we like to talk about going from the macro to the metro. So thank you to Ricky and Wolfgang for getting Kamala and myself in the same city. We're going to try to do the tricky part now and shift the presentations, since we're now connecting my laptop to another laptop. Let's see if that works. While they're putting that together, what I'm going to try to talk about is a discussion of the Great Recession from the perspective of place. And obviously, this Great Recession has been precipitated by reckless lending and a housing bubble in the United States, which has dramatically disrupted the lives of literally hundreds of millions of people across this globe through lost jobs and foreclosed homes and diminished incomes and banished wealth. At some point, the presentation will come up and I'll sort of catch up with myself. But what we've tried to do at Brookings is offer a simple but somewhat radical proposition from the United States, since we've had a long history as an anti-urban country. What we've basically said is that the ability of our country to grow and prosper is at risk, unless our metropolitan areas are healthy and vital. And what we're trying to do in the United States is literally change the mental map of our country from a union of 50 states or a network of small towns to a network of 363 highly connected hyperlink and economically integrated metropolitan areas. The tagline of our proposition is that the US is a metro nation and it's high time to start acting like one. So I'm going to begin with an initial frame. The shape of the US economy, the next US economy in our future prosperity is slowly coming into view. It appears likely that the next US economy is going to be low carbon. It will be innovation fueled. It will be less driven by domestic consumption. It will be more export oriented. Now that economy offers the kind of productive, inclusive, and sustainable growth that has eluded the United States for the past several decades. It may be ironic to be saying that in the midst of the worst economic downturn in 70 years, we may actually have a go here or perhaps not. Oh, I think we're trying to reconcile Max PCs and something else. In the last year, what we've seen is the US employment rate basically moved from about 4% to close to 10%. The rate is much higher for African-Americans and Hispanics, not surprisingly given the racial and ethnic, oh, here we go, we're about to do this. I'm going to catch up real quick so we stay on time. This is my country, the United States. Small country. This is how I see the United States, again as a network of metropolitan areas. Again, the radical proposition, here we go. I think we're catching up. Perfect. As I said before, the proposition is we're moving to a low-carbon, innovation-fueled, export-oriented economy. Again, last year, we've seen dramatic growth in unemployment, much worse for Hispanics and African-Americans, and frankly, these figures don't really state the full problem. There are now nearly 15 million unemployed people in the United States. That's the highest number since records started being kept in 1948. Our housing sector is battered because values have fallen nationwide for closures of rich and sharply due, first to that wave of toxic subprime, now the ravages of unemployment and the loss of income. Good's production has taken a dramatic hit. We've lost half the workers in auto manufacturing in the United States since 2000, with 330,000 workers lost in the past year alone. As a consequence, we now predict that about 41 million people will be below the poverty line in the U.S., compared to about 31.5 million in 2000. Poverty will hit about 13.2% in our country. We won't go down to 27 levels probably for another decade. Now, we're a big country, we're a diverse country. The recession has varied considerably. The housing collapse has been felt very much in the sun-drenched bubble real estate economies of Vegas and Riverside and Tampa, Florida. The auto collapse has devastated the motor metros, Detroit, Grand Rapids, and Dayton, and by contrast, places like Washington, D.C., Austin, and other areas have fared fairly well, buoyed by health and education. The real issue for us, and probably for everyone in this room, is what comes next. With a specter of global warming, we're making that slow, and in our country, painful transition to a low and less carbon economy. But with that comes opportunity. This transition is gonna demand a step change in innovation, in renewable energy technology, solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, ocean wave, biomass, in state-of-the-art infrastructure, smart grid, high-speed rail, finally, rapid bus, electric vehicles, clean coal, in green building technology and practice, sustainable design, sustainable construction, energy-efficient appliances, approaches, water-efficient appliances, approaches, all of that is gonna create new markets in the United States for private investment and ultimately drive job creation. Now, alongside of that, and this is really critical, is going to be a rebalancing of our economy, Larry Summers said, so it must be right, the rebuilt American economy must be more export-oriented and less consumption-oriented, and he is being polite. As everyone in this room knows, the last decade saw a frenzy of consumption in the United States, driven by non-sustainable speculative increases in housing values and reckless engineering of new loan products and secondary market vehicles. The US economy went off course. Consumer spending stood at 75% of GDP in 19, in 2007, up from 67% in 1980. Our trade deficit soared, financial services went from 10% of S&P 500 earnings to 45% today. The next economy in the United States must return to sanity, to a semblance of balance, to making things as well as providing services. Now, here's the second proposition, which is still radical in the United States, is that the next economy will be metropolitan and led. The world may be flat, as Tom Friedman obviously has taught us, but the spatial reality of modern economies here as well as where is their intense concentration in a relatively small number of places. These are the top 100 metros in the United States. They've kept growing and growing, where they now constitute two thirds of our population and they concentrate the workers and firms that fuel our economy. This is obviously the agglomeration effect. Why is this happening? Because these places gather and strengthen those assets that drive prosperity. Whether it's innovation, the new products, the processes, the business models that drive economic productivity and sustainable solutions, whether it's human capital, the education and skills that then further innovation and are the ticket to the middle class here and elsewhere, whether it's infrastructure, state of the art, transportation, telecommunication, energy distribution to help us move people, goods and ideas quickly and efficiently and whether it's quality of place. That special mix of distinctive community, quality design, responsible growth that is ultimately competitively wise, physically responsible and environmentally sustainable. Those assets are the assets that matter, innovation, human capital, infrastructure and quality place and they come to ground disproportionately in our country and elsewhere. Top 100 metros only sit on 12% of the land mass. This is the energy efficiency issue. They house two thirds of our population. They generate three quarters of our growth and more importantly, they gather all these assets in an outsized way, whether it's indicators of innovation like patents or venture capital, indicators of human capital like graduate degrees, indicators of infrastructure like air cargo. These are our seaports or freight hubs or indicators of quality place like public transit. This is very similar to some of the slides Ricky put up around metros around the world. The cumulative impact of this is outstanding. Seattle, 51% of the population of the state of Washington, 69% of the economic output of that state. Chicago, where we'll be next year, 67% of the residents, 78% of the economic output. These places punch above their economic weight. We now have in the United States metro areas generating the majority of gross domestic product in 44 of our 50 states, including rural states like Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska and Arkansas. The United States is a metro nation. The real question again is whether we begin to act like one and organize and invest in our assets to achieve productive, inclusive and sustainable growth. So here's the final proposition, to realize the potential of the next economy because it's not inevitable. Metros can't go it alone. The forces that affect metros, movement of talent, drift of carbon emissions, obviously take place at the global scale and they have impacts that transcend parochial borders. We need a national government and in the United States as a republic we need state governments that serve as strategic, flexible and accountable partners so that metros can be all they can be. Now, where is Barack Obama? The question probably for some in this room. The good news is that President Obama gets this vision and most importantly because policy is derivative of paradigm, he gets it at the paradigmatic level. This is the White House website but you can go to many speeches that the president has given. He is talking about cities and metropolitan areas in a modern way. He is the first metropolitan president in the United States. I'm not counting Grover Cleveland, the former mayor of Buffalo. The White House website says bluntly that America's cities and metros are vital engines for economic growth. The federal policy must change to reflect that reality. That is a sharp departure from traditional federal rhetoric which for decades treated cities as reservations of poverty and centers of hopeless decline. Now beyond that conceptual frame, the federal government is beginning to put its money and its rules where its mouth is and make the kind of metro friendly investments and reform. We know that in February, Congress enacted the president's 800 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. This act, while imperfect, is just beginning to make the kind of game changing, market shaping investments in the next economy that has been long deferred. Tens of billions for advanced research and development on bio, on clean energy. Tens of billions for investments in education innovation in ways that leverage state and local reforms, particularly in troubled urban districts. Tens of billions for infrastructure investments, high speed rail, smart grid, healthcare information technology, water systems. Tens of billions in spending and tax incentives for energy retrofit, finally. Intercity business development, community development transit in our major metros, brownfield remediation. The Recovery Act is just the beginning. Since February, the president has put forward a series of initiatives to catalyze multi-dimensional, multi-jurisdictional solutions. To lead a step change in clean energy, he is proposing network of energy innovation hubs to turn advanced research and development into commercially deployable materials and systems to help remake the sprawling American landscape, the Euston's of the world, the Phoenix's of the world. He has proposed a sustainable communities initiative to develop integrated regional plans that link housing, transport jobs and land use and create more compact and transit rich communities. To help metros grow more inclusively, the president has proposed a choice neighborhoods initiative to couple the transformation of distressed public housing, which is still very centrally located in the United States as opposed to other parts of Europe and here, with systemic interventions on early childhood education and school reform. So housing not as a sole intervention, but coupled with these other issues. Now these are very early steps. The Obama administration comes in and inherits a legacy government. It is a shell of its former self. It is diminished in capacity. It is ill-focused and ill-informed. It is literally a fat free zone at times in Washington. Change in a government that is that large and complex takes time. But that makes it even more important that as the Obama administration goes forward, it becomes more globally fluent and it thinks not just outside the box but outside the nation, hard for America. China is building the most sophisticated network of ports and freight hubs in the world by trying to replicate the U.S. network of advanced research institutions and universities. Their stimulus plan on high-speed rail dwarfs what we're doing in the United States. Germany is strengthening rail and telecommunication connections between their major metros. Berlin, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Munich and the rest of their country. Spain, though devastated by this recession, has really become a hot house of alternative energy solutions. Wind, solar, spawning new specializations in finance, investment, legal fields. U.S. prosperity in short depends more than ever on us ceasing to be an insular nation but one that truly embraces, is aware of, translates, replicates the innovative brilliance of our trading partners. So let me end where I began. The U.S. enters this century and as far as I'm concerned, this century started 2009 with a new geography and a new phase. We are not Thomas Jefferson's network of rural hamlets in small towns but we still like to think of ourselves like that. The U.S. challenge is literally cultural. It's to get comfortable in our metropolitan skin, alter the way we govern so that metropolitan communities can achieve their fullest potential in our country as the engines of national prosperity. The federal government at a time of economic crisis, social challenge, unprecedented environmental pressure has to catalyze this move towards metropolitan governance and in so way pave the way for decades of growth and development that is literally smart and sustainable. We are, we urge a Metro policy for a Metro nation. Thank you very much.


Patriot Prime Reviews is a channel for adult collectors and may not be suitable for children under 13 years of age viewer discretion is advised Hey, what's going on guys? Patriot Prime here once again with another Transformers review, but before I get started I need you guys to do me a favor if you're watching this video right here and are not a subscriber of Patriot Prime Reviews Please hit that subscribe button right now. It won't cost you a thing Will help me and my channel out tremendously. Also, make sure and visit my sponsor toyhacks.com Toyhacks provides reproduction and upgrade decal sets for transformer toys from generation one to the latest modern figures Make sure and stop by the toyhacks armory where they can equip your figures with new weaponry in multiple colors and toy stages provides backdrops for figure displays and photography Each purchase with toyhacks earns you RoboSense that can be used for future purchases. You can check your balance anytime in your cart Toyhacks is a company run by collectors for collectors So check out toyhacks.com and make your collection stand out from the rest and tell them Patriot Prime sent you now on to the review The featured button this video is Transformers Netflix war for Cybertron Trilogy Sparkless bot I got this bot here as a gift from subscriber Brad Baluta Who hooked me up once again with a bot that I can't seem to find in my store. So Brad Thank you very much. Now. Let's take a quick look at the packaging first off You've got the sparkless bot, which is a repaint of siege barricade in this rust collar So I think I'm gonna call him rusty So you got transformers Netflix war for Cybertron Trilogy Side of the box you've got some art of the sparkless bot here And you got rusty in robot mode Vehicle mode and side of the box is the Netflix artwork and I believe that is the kingdom artwork So pretty cool can't wait to open them up and check them out But before we tear into the packaging for this bot I want to show you some other things I got today my little brother hooked me up He found a dread wind for me at a local toy store near where he lives Now I have a dread wind in my collection But his little power master tabs are broke off right there on the side So this one has them in great shape, but he has a bad stress mark there on the tail fin Where the one I own does not so I'm just going to Frankenstein the two together and make a complete Solid dread wind so looking forward to doing that And my brother also got me this this little read-along book which is actually surprisingly in really good shape and Includes the 45 So if I had a record player I can actually Go along with that. So that is really cool. I haven't seen one of those in years So enough of my mail haul. Let's get this bot out of the package and check him out and welcome to patriot prime reviews Now once you get rusty all opened up and out of his packaging You see he does come with a sheet of instructions that as usual Are very well illustrated and very easy to follow but considering this is a Siege Dotson brother mold you guys should know how to transform me He also comes with two weapons. These are his shoulder mountain cannons or you can Put them together like so for a handheld weapon He also comes with a light bar that is cast in a translucent brown So let's go ahead We'll put that on his back right there because you can attach that and don't really have to worry about it again and let's take the weapons And we'll go ahead and put those up here on his shoulders Just like so And there we have the sparkless bot all armed and ready for battle Now as I said earlier, this is a repaint of siege barricade Who is also a repaint? Of siege smoke screen now keep in mind both my smoke screen and barricade have been enhanced thanks to toy hacks decals But you see the similarities now the big difference with this guy, of course is The paint scheme and the paint scheme on him looks really really good. It looks like real rust and surprising He's got purple eyes. I didn't even notice that in the Online images when he was first announced. I didn't really think he looked that good But getting him in hand. He actually looks pretty sweet I really dig this paint job. He looks old and decayed and rusted just like he did in the netflix show So let's see can bury him here to barricade Bump the ring light there But as you can see Just the paint applications is the big difference All the molded detail is the same But it seems to pop a lot more on this rusted collar Then let's see the black on smoke screen here or The purple on barricade well purple that stands out pretty good But i'm really impressed how much the details really pop On this rusted paint scheme. It just looks really cool Of course, he does have the issue of having translucent Shins and they're that brown translucent plastic again So it doesn't look too bad since it is a darker collar He is gray right there on the toes same gray here on the arms the shoulders. Well, I think actually Yeah, the shoulders are a little darker gray But you can tell that's what the color the whole figure is because we've got that same gray behind the wings So that is pretty much it for Robot mode of course the articulation Articulation is the exact same As his siege counterparts So now let's get the sparkless bot transformed into vehicle mode My first thought when I saw rusty here in vehicle mode Is that he looks just like an old hot wheels car that you would find buried in the dirt in your yard That you forgot about from a few years earlier. I mean the rust carries over great. He looks dirty patinaed and I mean it really works Hasbro has really impressed me with this paint scheme. This looks so cool I don't even mind the translucent canopy which usually takes me off But with him you really can't see any of the robot junk hiding inside Now the light bar does kind of blend in a little bit But that's okay because the whole figure just It works this works with this character. I I love it. I think this is awesome. And if you want to compare Rusty here to siege barricade once again And as I said toy hex decals on barricade I mean they They look awesome together. I dig it. Now one thing I do wish that they fixed with this mold is these blasted Translucent wheels, but I guess he's a cyber trunnion vehicle They have translucent wheels on cyber tron Maybe a little paint applications there for the lights and maybe a little something here on the back would help But other than that, I really dig This character or this figure mainly just because of that paint scheme now, of course, you can take the weapons and Position the weapons here on the front of the vehicle Guy has that James Bond machine gun look or You can peg the two weapons together And peg them right on top of the light bar Like so So there you go guys. There is Rusty the sparkless bot in vehicle mode And now for some quick size comparisons. Here's the netflix transformers war for cybertron trilogy sparkless bot With netflix megatron Siege shockwave And once again with siege barricade The transformers war for cybertron trilogy netflix sparkless bot Really impressed me. I originally had no desire to get this figure Then he was gifted to me by my friend brad and I was really impressed with the guy Of course, I like this mold anyway, but the paint scheme really knocks this one out of the park He looks rusted for real and it's actually a really cool looking figure to have on your display So there you go guys the transformers netflix war for cybertron trilogy Sparkless bot a.k.a Rusty So does a netflix transformers war for cybertron trilogy Sparkless bot or rusty belong in your collection Well, this one is for the army builders those of you who love to collect multiple bots just so you can have this Army of soldiers for your collection or in his case an army of zombies So if you're into that, I think you're really going to dig this figure.  Now guys, if you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like don't forget to subscribe and don't forget to hit that bell icon To get notified when I upload new reviews. Once again, this is patriot prime signing out who


Can you think of an example today of a market failure that you would concede requires government intervention?  Almost every time you point me in the direction of a market failure, I see government controls and government regulations behind them or corruption in some way or fraud. And fraud, we know is wrong. There's 1,000 years of common law. We understand that. Suddenly, there are violations of property rights that are new that come about to govern hesitancy, pollution being one of them. Intellectual property rights, we didn't know really intellectual property rights existed. It's a relatively modern phenomenon, how we apply it. So I'm not an anarchist. I believe government is necessary.


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It is still a very very very beautiful morning here on hashtag social friday and by the wekta why do we even have hashtag social friday is that something special about the friday yes because one it's a friday a friday that's obvious obvious two the main important thing is that we are usually very social social yes it's where we go freestyle is where to najiachilia so it's where we also host uh content creators because they interact with the social public okay it's where we welcome everyone to watch the show including shows shows so close so close so close salafo aribu anyway this is where we regular weekend on a weekday kairusana the dj of the day of course is rajiz the dj he is the resident of infusion boys my name is valentine and you are masaikta that's katie in excess you can spell at my phone facebook my phone channel on x formally twitter white 54 underscore channel on instagram and all those are the wonderful places like threads tiktok youtube and them how do we find you um me on social media so we came up with google maps google maps just go search masaikta we can show you to my place okay there you go on all social media and at color me valentine and rajiz the dj naka kwaana kakitwa kana ngaivi some caricature of some sort that is he on what what mona aga le kwa profile photo then but it's true okay all right yes on social media we had asked a very important question uh and that's as a youth what do you have to say about the state of the nation as it is right now youth it by the yusha sangapi 35 according to the constitution and according to the un kwa maeli that is a 25 sorry sorry sorry sorry i did that to cut corners hi and what are the people said so the people are saying i can see whom uh camili and i say maia yahana maoni lakini ameka meme the meme of the president you know the president was uh photoshoped summer then liya dj so ameka the meme up i say maia yahana maoni uh but i la leonard kenyosa i say ma all the way from bomet east merigie uh yes thank you so much for watching nice to meet you electrobelli brown and i say hi guys i say nwa kenya da non america da i think basini do and i say ma maili nifika mhm nia kutafuta inchi ningine atahama toki rosafi that's olivia mhjelci tony rancada asemeya kukunfused um frances kimani salimiata sana uh ha hamka fitkida asemba akotiyun rezy roteach anasema uh aya na ta kutumu ahaiti you did not us iiii on that no keep on interacting with us uh on the social media platforms to ambe hapukwa comments una hisi ad but i would like to give val the opportunity akaribishi yemgeni kwa shambuna zigelegele kno gaji ume ui aya ma kofi karebo sana una aya na jpikigia ma kofi iiii what's your good name mmhum what do you do samanta mmhum you are a dance instructor no nina be taught um information strong hand you may attend ya Ya, ya, how do we find you on all these other platforms, Kabla, Twanza, Samanta, Dejra? Okay, is that your, I, to say many, jina, IDI, yama jina, IMPEST? Ni jina stay jina. Okay, be honest, why are you answering my question? IDI is very expensive, kitaka kujua jina ya IDI uta li piya? Do thousands? Did I do? Yes. Hey sis! All right, tell us about your, why dancing, why not? Okay, honesti tumetoka zai ku interview mungine, who lip syncs, so why dancing for you? We understand that you dance kitambo, so I think that if you give us a story dancing, you will say that. Wow, naskia kumuliza how old she is, but it's in miyambu yem tabi yambaya. Yes. It's very bad, miyata na ta kumuliza onongi angadweva. Ya. Oh, you don't shout? Yes, it's too kazaidi hapa. Now kitam, wukoto evo? Jamingi. Nga fanyamu nesa bisha na wewa dhi, 30 potre. Tukiaza kusha uti nivu. Tiba na. Okay, lakin woneza jari bukongezakidugu. Ya. So, kunatua na sema, manta kujua sauti ya uta mua sauti. Benja na juwani wewa. See, wutu na, I know your handwriting, I know it. Na kujua. Yeah, hey. I came to know, actually, when you came to the limelight, and when you did a song from Baizuchu, remember the song? Ya. And that was the time I saw views, views, views, views. I'm like, wow. How was that experience just jumping, pop all of a sudden? Haiku wa mba ya sana, kus first of all, miskona takale kujakua bimlet na iyo lookalike, kus people say we lookalike. Haiku wa mba ya sana, Baizuchu. But I thank God, at least, ilifanya nika tokale kama wewa, he came to know me there, so. Bono jajita kenyan juwuchu, siku na kenyan kadi, nua oile anitwe, druga, bono takikwenda na iyo. Takikwenda na iyo bimi. Muna za imba just Baizuchu? No. Muno me katae wa raka. Nisa uti na imba. Una tembe anga twana kukonfuse with Zuchu? Sa zingine, not all the time, sa zingine. All right. Laki nuna go with it, muna mbe wewe, mi nisa manta. Ni ulenga, kus mostly na kwa nga fans. So ukinita Zuchu kwa baranda assume, like, haven't had anything. But kwa comments ni ureplia, I'm like, na am not Zuchu. It sounds like it offends you a bit. Does it offend you? Na. Oh, okay. Ni bile 2 utaki kwa? Ya, ni bile 2 utaki otwa izoya, kus I want to be known as Samantadeja. Ya on salufu. I'm like that. It's the same way, uki tembe aprokuite kksks, unangali anga nyuma. How is being called Zuchu and kksks? Use na tubeba? How? Uki skia mta vise mawe, utangali anga nyuma. Kwanza lon me itwa binti, na ni wewe 2 tangali. Na ni wewe 2, binti tangali anga nyuma. Use na ni kito wemze, dangali anga, sukuna uze weinju anga tembe. Uki tembe aprokuite kksks. Ume ni masai, masia meza na kuitana kksks. Wekst. Ue ni. So, dangali anga. Okay. Sisi atu tangali anga nyuma. Ni me maili. Okay. Chala, about the question we're asking on our socials. We're asking, yesterday the president actually gave a state of the nation address and as a content creator, do you feel from the time the government took over, there have been changes in the creative industry? For example, sayu neza piga picha pa town, yusakajali fani le kitru. Amma income ima ungezeka in content creation? Let me talk about the positive side. Kama yae ni umesama ya government ku allow people to shoot videos in town. I feel like that was a big step for content creators because not all of them get the opportunity to live in locations and stuff because we do pay locations and stuff. So at least you can have a big free space where you can do whatever you want. So I feel like that was great. What's the most you've ever paid to use a location? Amma quotation, usha ipewa duka se mawa? Ni must. Ilkwa 2001 hawa. That's a lot. How many hours did you need it for? Just one hour. You used to talk as they shoot for hours and hours. No, su kwa na sejulia kwa plan yourself. Nwa na wa unafoko mi shoot everything you wanted to shoot. Is this something else you do? Uko shule? Uko ulma leza? Mi am. Okay, not mi am, but currently I'm not in school. Mami sumabi zudis. Mata mi am. So when a youth same was up. Okay. I'm old. Imagine, now that, okay, me volunteer kwa mze. So imagine in your times. Uliku onafkiria that mtu aneza fanya vitu on social media and make money out of it. Okay, I'm not that old. Sini om meditali a kwa. Because actually when I finished my studies, it's social media that actually brought me to where I am. Started managing accounts and everything, creating content as well. So when I built and posted on social media, it grew. But at that time there was no TikTok. Tukwatu na rely na YouTube and Facebook. Tukwatu na liza na why TikTok? Why is TikTok so big or why do people prefer TikTok to let it Instagram or X? Because I feel that TikTok it's more easy to look at Instagram because when I started dancing I was young. So I had choreographers who were artists, big artists. I was a choreographer. So I tried choreographing in staff. I was two behind the scenes. But I was not working and time is running. So I was like, let me try. Let me try. Okay. I was basically shocked. That's why I tried TikTok because it's so easy to talk. Sika ma Instagram you have to pay when they shoot when they need content branding and stuff. But TikTok it's easy. No na tuwata mtu na muka na fanya kumidi na na na end of viral. So I felt like TikTok it's more easy. Then I put numbers on TikTok. I can start now building my brand on Instagram. That's how it is. Yes. Meskia Dejavu. The same conversation here about building one platform and then platform in Asamba to the other platforms. How busy is your schedule? What does your day look like? Yes. Inna depend. That's it. And by the way do you sorry for interrupting but na muna kuna ten na muka na TikTok as for some time na na tuwata video, video draft, draft, draft. So do you record and then release dolly for one day, one day one day like that? Uki angaliya contenti angu mostly and you shoot na na simu. So na fanyanga like mimi na fanyanga niu kwa na two days in a week so I shoot content. So two days in a week I'm shooting content na post in two weeks. So I kwa drafti angu na drafta toa moza. Wow. So funny. So I shoot videos na cameras na eka na kaziya wiki tu niku edit niki post niki edit niki post. Do you feel that's more professional? Sorry. Na mani injig. Do you think it's more professional to use maybe equipment versus a phone? Yeah. I feel like it's more investee. So we'll invest. Musta na kwa na na do na investment. I mean invest so na we'll spend money. To make money. What do you think spending money is doing? What? Neza uliza kama na nanga live kumeku mania maakiniya brands. Tap tap tap tap na nanga not tap tap. It's very few guests that have come who are TikTokers on set and have actually admitted to doing the live tap tap. So na niki na nani wana tap tap? Exactly. How is she going to answer that question though? But if you have an idea ureza tuwambiania na nani wana tap tap na wana nari bujiniya TikTok kido go. Siwa nwi. Wisdom. Wisdom. Na very innocently answered. But wisdom uswa vegitoa powa. She has spoken akuna zero draft. There was a guest that we had here who said I think was that Kesh? Kest. Kest, yes. She says she has 600 drafts. Like ameshut, ameshut, but zimifika 600. She doesn't know actually a gun in a gun. Do you think content is over taken with time? If you don't post it immediately ma within a certain time frame. Sana sana these challenges? On TikTok when you may understand nama na na vodinge kushut na kukuna drafts mingi kus ita fanya kwanzo kwe lezi kus ita kuki jukuna content. Na ujwi trend zina isha. Trend zina isha. So mi nama nimi sema I always do trending songs na najiwa this particular videos I have to post them in wiki. Kus the song ita trend third week. So that niskupia nimi fanya jule me lipa videografa I don't waste my video. If any video you end up in a disappoint don't spend expectations pia. Wamanage the expectations. All right. Before nani patia ni wudaku moza nyanashinda ni kia mbu yu wudaku siche leweshe. She's supposed to after hapa there's a place you're going to teach people how to dance, right? Yes. Which place is that again? Skygirls. Skygirls. Ikawap ni open to the public. Ya, it's open to the public. xenani from kwa weqo yote Adi 17 Seven not neza. This is the way we end up. U na jaribuk u nianbea ni nisi is now is 17. U na weza, nikiisha niwa neza? Naa ma ni chek? Wewa un a kubeli у ama the suggestions for girls. Girls. Can you please tell us the social media handles? I confirm we everywhere Samantha Deadra. Snapchat, Tik Tok. Instagram, Facebook.  No, but it's true It's true, okay Yes It's our time Alright, I wanted to tell you something Tell me something Do you know the group called PUnit? Uh huh That's a PUnit wa kenda TZ TZ Wakengia hotel Inside Ili kuwa miaka kadhaya Ya li opeta Yes, yes Eh sasa diamondi Diamondi? Yes Platnamsi? Yes Ili kuwa platnamsi Balu Ili kuwa mianza bronze Eh, diamondi Where is the have to conversation? Aki but koteerio? Diamondi Eh, akeenda, aka wangoji wa kwa lobby Kwa lobby? Yes, lobby ni mahal watu wa nakanga koteeria poinje Wakengoji wa matu wa reception Onwe kichu wa mbekam Eh, aka kaha po Aka kaha Ananguja kolabo Kolabo Diamondi aka anguja kolabo Kolabo Ananok PUnit wa taki kufunguamu lango Dun, dun, dun Wananok PUnit wa taki kufunguamu lango Aka choka akaenda Akaenda PUnit wa kaulizo Sasa ambo na diamondi Amtaki kolabo na diamondi Wakasema ellipsi me parara ataribu brand Oh, good That's actually a true story In case unadani na tiana stories e jaba That's actually a true story Although I did know that Walikata But I didn't know that was the reason Yes, so the group They kept the musician waiting At the hotel lobi for 4 hours Since they concluded They say that he had dry lips And his looks did not appeal to them Aki pesa wewe Onave diamond na kangasiku hizi Akin mungu ni nani Mungu ni nani Mungu ni nani Mungu ni nani Yes Mungu ni maula Oh, yes Indio yu sasa But at least Iliwatoka They said it in a fun way In a insulting way So kwa tuana Wana fanya kumbu kumbu So sima ujongo So sayi watenda Kuitisha collab wa maa metulia I think wamesha tulia Washa tulia Oh, no Yes, kunakitu tulikwa tunafanya Tulikwa tunafanya Kwa simu ya Kwa simu Yes We were about to play again Ay, ay, ay Time in a Kimbe Mama, masai me share Peter Bado Bado I think we can play one Moja One Moja One Yes Mimidona, I guess Ay, ay, alright Ay, get ready Yes No, make sure we appear now Get ready Umayona, get ready Where? 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This is what you clicked on Best would cartel boss Nottingham David Gunn true crime podcast 305 I Told y'all want to get into these crime gangsta podcast They just super long So man if y'all could like Tell me like in the discord or somewhere Drop links to ones that y'all want me to do Probably in the discord maybe in the discord man. I am not subbed to his channel. So let me sub Let me like the video Practice what I preach man Get into it. If they'd have found you guilty how much time would you go? I had a died in prison I did when we've ever got a 35 Okay, this must be real video. Okay, cuz I guess for that for a month I skipped all this cuz I thought it was just like Ah Big desert eagle take for three years cat ain't for four years. I've done every top security every special unit Everyone in the country. I've done absolutely every every one of them violence on all of them Good cuppa good rich teas while I watch Robert Moore's they've done very we can you know a cat walk Kev Kev Lane Curtis Warren all of them killed someone with a single punch Outside boots in Nottingham City Center. We've got three and a half years for that for a manslaughter It's not a murder mate. Let me just beat him.  You did what bro?  We say oh Dave's we go gassing and put it back up I'll have to find out who's done it tech and ran where I'm in get the people to tread on the reds And all that or smash their hands in with hammers, and that's the sort of thing that went up Because was all iris cat easy So you're strapped up and cut them suits and we're prisoner on the back and I'm fairly copters cars guns All around the courts guns are drawn if they'd have found you guilty how much time would you got had it died in prison? I did when we've got a 35 had it got the same Today we have got a massive story Loads of viewers have requested this one over the years And if you have seen any of the news stories about the best wood cartel and the gun brothers Then this is the one you've been waiting for but the thing is a lot of journalists authors Clickbaiters are wrong with this and there's all kinds of myths Exaggerated stories and Dave gone is gonna put those to rest today when he tells his story and His brother is serving 36 35 35 break life here and and Dave himself has done over 20 years I've done about 23 yeah, I've done. I've done 11 out of the last 15 Just for nonsense, mate, but do you want to give the viewers just a little idea of a prison you've been On the last sentence, I did I was iris cat eight for three years cat eight for four years So I've done every top security every special unit everyone in the country I've done absolutely every every one of them and you know violence on all of them with staff and but So not only was you a minutes in the streets you was a minutes in the prison You was category a you was top top top tier gangsters Okay Make us the man. That's why I say you just have to roll with it That's some bad times some good times some good people in there About I've actually done a lot of make sure I didn't do a day because of different jails 16 on remand Which is caused so they can upset your routine and then it takes three months for your paperwork to follow you So you can't study your murder cases because they've got it for three months And it follows you it lands on you the movie again and again and again and it's just non-stop I know some of the more well-known characters you've served time with I've done it. I've been on the special unit with charlie Robert morseley Dunberg with Kenny noi Catwalk Kev Kev Lane Curtis Warren all of them everybody all the top security lads And your brother then Colin he's been cate for how many years colin's now it's still high risk cate But he's been it's the longest one in british history. He's been doing it for 17 years now And it's been exceptional three times as well Where you get removed to the unit on ten man unlock at belmarsh And um, it's just you're out on your end.   What was that like? Yeah, we had rough times We you know Single parents and never really had much very clean But my mom had to work every hour god sent just to feed us and everything so He started thieving and and trying to earn money for the family And you know you're doing all that to look after the family But growing up it was it it was a good time brilliant But got very handy with the fists and you know just throw your weight about and As children but as you grow up and get older you want bigger and better things don't you so you're just progressing You go from from burglarist robbing robbing garages and things like that and and then finally you're into drugs And that's where the that's where the money was at the time. What about the rave scene of that chilli rod? The rave scene were brilliant Yeah, it was brilliant Well, what was your first rage because we came down to we didn't get down to nothing and we went to burn He sounded like he was turd. I think I did a um A son at work Maybe I don't I can't recall From young rag market, we went to coventry the eclipse Shelly's stone and Sheffield They had them all up there and and they had the first massive one was at 25 000 people one at fantasia castle I was a brilliant rave when spoonie and top buzz and all them was on brilliant rave Absolutely and the flyers for all them from 89 90 and then the cops seized them and kept using them as evidence against them So what was it like taking ecstasy for you? I've never really bothered with drugs, you know in them days. I mean Before obviously it was called ease then it was then white white doves. They were called And there was all sevens went for 25 quid a pill and I says to our kid Let's get into this me. What's going off? I come these wankers again all the time.  There was there was good buzz though. It was a good buzz. Did I don't know maybe I didn't ever try We'll try today You had a good time on them because a lot of I like the violence like reduced because Liverpool versus Manchester They were scared to go each other's cities. Yeah, so I had mates involved, but then they get on the ease and they're all hugging and kissing You can eat you can eat them one minute and half hour later.  That's what you did But school was good. We had a good a proper good upbringing and my mom was How old is he? Because he he was as children. That's what you do with not all children do that do that I mean, that's what I did, but I'm just saying, you know Because she's when the coffers ready for it. She'd be hitting them with shoes and also I Not all the time. Yeah, he said some of his gangs what word again back there. Well, there was there was a best word like You know, it was known as the best word us. There was only 15 and 16 You know tosses really but you think the big men don't know that age Then you was fighting ed was laying on or war. Well, you're just going around all different schools fighting them Just to see just to show you're the cop of the schools and that you know, that's how it was And what were you on a path where you were never going to have a straight career? I did. I worked for I worked for the council as a gardener. Then I sent me on car business. So but You're constantly trying to do better and earn more and and you know, you stop Just start dipping into things and that's better than this and that gets put on the lay by and you move ahead with this one and You know, it's been horrific, but it's been brilliant. It's been a good ride. Yeah But would I do it again? I don't think I would know You all right to just elaborate on the ride because going from like being in your league teams The news reports were saying this cartel had like hundreds of people work from all this stuff. Yeah How does it go from that a teenager to that? Well from from say I was married at 19 Me and my wife have been together since was nine years old. So we're married at 19 You you gotta have been born in 1902 or something that what do you say? I'm sorry 1902 is great 1950 something because they don't make it like that no more They do not I wish I would have found my wife at nine. I would have been cooling by now You know, I'm saying relaxed And then obviously I did in the 80s I was forever doing forestal sentences yp sentences For doing what I do in town fighting and that then, you know, I killed someone with a single gun outside boots in nottingham city centre I've got three and a half years for that for a manslaughter Is that someone who started on you? Yes, my wife had just got married and someone's tried to groper And and he just went outside. I smacked him eat his head on the curb And I got nick for that remanded for that. That was the first one And then there's quite a few guys in prison. Isn't there for things like that? Oh, yeah, so they bang on one and behind there behind your ear is the weakest part of your school And if you land on it, you're a goner, right, but it shoots into your brain, right?  Was it upsetting or? Well, it was part of the course for me, but when you're young, it's upsetting But as you get older, you just get bitter and bitterer and, you know, it's hard for your family So when you're in the jail, you get you get drugs in, don't you sell the drugs to feed your family? And everybody was doing it in the 90s That's how it was.  Yeah, you just got visits and you... What'd you do with it, my boy?  Yeah, everybody, yeah It was prominent in 1920 He still looked young, though So maybe not fitties Maybe in his 60s, dude, boy Cause he looks rather young No, it was well known So when you got out on that sentence then, what was your life like? It was good. That's when I went back to work and with the council And things was nice And then you need more money than they can pay So you get people on your estate at the time who were selling drugs or absolute nones And you're thinking, what are these earning all this money? You know, driving around in the day, it was XR3Is and that But I said to our kid, what are these doing, these wankers? So we just took it off them And started doing it ourselves That's how it's been, but I'll talk about it, because I've done the jail for it But you've got to fill the cupboards Or call by crook at that age Your family need feeding, I have four children So Colin then back then, was he in and out of the Bostles as well? Yeah, Colin did a few But Colin used to be known as Knuckles Cause he's got massive hands that he just used to snore them Just used to put them to sleep in one punch at that So no one had talked to Colin Dave, can you sort this out?  No, no, we're just told them they're not doing it no more, we're doing it And you're off the scene And only people sell this around here is us Our firm's job and anybody else is going to be serious consequences So, and obviously serious consequences happened Are you able to elaborate on that? Well, people got serious beatings and... I would imagine like that kind of approach People did test the theory out Like, who is this dude? I'm going to do it anyway Testing that theory got people worked up Oh, God man, what's going on? Oh, here we go Makes sense People was put in hospital, you know But as far as I was concerned, I can't really elaborate any further Did you get convicted of stuff around that time? Yeah, I was always locked up Not the man of thought I was So what was your next sentence after the one you just got out? That one, what did I get then? I've done 15 months, three years I've done a four and a half, eight and a half Was that all drug related? No, no, only the last one was drug related So I've never been nicked for drugs Man, that's crazy, man First of all, look at this man's wrist This wrist going crazy This is tough But like, living this type of lifestyle Like, it's like It's really two, three ways it can go, man Like, really, when they be saying that That'd be real talk It's either you're going to be locked up, bed Or you might slither through a crack But that's rare And this man was locked up for a third of his life Just the last one The major one is where My daughter was nine years old in a bar She was having a Sunday lunch with my wife and the children And a man fell into the table Not the Coca-Cola all over She jumped up screaming He's belted her in the eye So I've got a phone call I've gone down to him My pulse got one of them And it's not a murder, mate Let me just beat him So I bit his eyelids off and his lips off And swallowed him But... Now the backstory to this is crazy My man's...  Or what you're doing to people Or who it is Like this man came through What did you do? Say it again?   It can't happen It can't happen I've got liquid courage or something else Four-year-nine month for it Yeah, you should've got a medal Yeah, and he come and give evidence as well I can't believe it He was locked up at the time It's always the way it is in these cowards It hit kids And hit him women Come and give evidence Wanker, but he's dead now I seen his wife the other day I said, what's happened to that wanker? Where is he now?  After that one I think I got a three for a violent disorder What led to that?  And do your best while you're in jail Treat people with respect It's all my old school rules, man Nowadays, we got gunners Six, nine It is not happening that way no more If they want it, they can have it And it's like that But no one wants it You don't really want it Because you want to get out But you just got to show yourself As somebody who's not bothered And just have it then What about run-ins with the guards? Yeah, I've always got on with them to be fair I've had a few run-ins I've had a few run-ins with them But especially on the special units But in them sea cats and that As a young kid You get on with them all Because they all want to smoke you off So the run-ins were later on? Later on, yeah Yeah What was the next sentence then? After the three Would have been I don't care About 27 months for another daft AVH Punching someone in the eye socket In a club I was always pissed up hitting people The way he described it Like punching somebody in the eye socket Not just the eye The whole socket is what you did it to Like that's different People Not bullying But in my head There's a reason for it It's man-on-man-on It wasn't, yeah And you know, because I've always had Medication for schizophrenia And all that sort of stuff So in my head I think I'm right And these come first And I'll unload a few of them And then after When you realise To see how come at me And before you know it You're getting led away In course I think my mate Wild Woman She's got like A tumour on part of her brain And she goes from zero To fucking psychotic That's how many seconds Yeah You can do that She's your mate Yeah Okay, when I was young, bro I used to be like that Any little slight thing That set me off And I'd get busy And think about it later Like, and I don't Corrify, condone, Sensation-wise Any of that matter of fact Before it gets critical And here we go But That was just the mentality I don't know what I don't know what type Of time I was on, man When you add To the equation Like, I didn't have liquid courage I had courage before any liquor Any liquid to come in And I was never an angry Like, I would never get angry I would see something Being done to myself Like, say somebody Getting out of pocket Rationalise what was About to happen Come to a conclusion And execute And then later Like afterwards You're not getting mad It's not good to, you know Throw these mugs When you're angry But nevertheless Like, I'm in a peaceful Zen place now I got a daughter Yesterday was her birthday And, you know, we just We good Peaceful God did So you got a string Of these offenses then And what led up to the bigger one Which one, the eight and a half one Yeah I had a massive I had a massive conspiracy To supply in England and Wales With amphetamine, heroin and cocaine But never dealt in class A's It was only amphetamine out of it I'm not minimising it It's drugs, you know He's playing out of order But I was dealing amphetamine Earning good money I was earning about 18 grand a week of it So I was having proper good Doe out of it But then When we all got bossed What they done We had a special branch And then my five on us Right, because we was getting That big all over the country But all the other lads Doing what they're doing And everything So they burgled my workers They burgled their asses And stole all the jewelry And that But why there was Is he from Liverpool? Because I heard him talk about Liverpool earlier The cameras in the televisions So there's videos of them With the misses on the set And, you know, the private Private videos And there's loads of them And they're talking Saying, ah, yeah Dave said to this And Dave said to this And it brings you under Conspiracy, doesn't it? And then they bugged my car Had the address Both the stereo bugged it There was all bugged How did you notice the stereo was bugged? Well, I was on my way to York one day And the person with me I'll say Private said Look, that's a different stereo, Dave That's got a big scratching Yours had a big scratching This is brand new I said, no, it's nice It's my stereo It's my CD He said, no, it's gone So I pulled over on the lay-by On the A1, ripped it out And launched it And I thought I'm going to sell this car I'm going to get back I went like shush But by that time The damage had already been done Because my pals had been sat there And we made doggies saying 22 years I've been dealing drugs And he got a five-year for that Just for the car being bugged It falls Just a minor admission Yeah, one admission Yeah, it got him They took out the whole radio And replaced it They throw that bug in there That's different Five-year And it locked me up Had the kids working for me They was all bugged And when they got raided I got raided I got arrested in a bistro In a place called Bulwul By an police I sat there with my friend Who's passed away now It's crazy, a bistro We call it a bistro Like the little pronunciations The little different The different The differential The different... Differentiations And they come in Guns drawn You're under arrest David I thought it was for them And charges, but it weren't And they come in For drugs I said, what are you all about, mate? Anyway, they didn't have a lot, mate So I was cateed For nine-kilograms of amphetamine Went to Wakefield prison Had two nights there And five in the morning Wist off to Manchester To Strangeways On E-wing there The cate unit Strangeways So I was there for about Two and a half months Then I got nicked for the murders They took me to a loud police station In armed escorts Helicopter and all that All armed police Then they brought me back And I realised that was Irish cate And then obviously I'm there now, I'm Irish cate So let's crack on with it It's a big fight on So you've got to roll your sleeves And get ready for it So you've covered a lot of ground Let's go back a bit So you had two days in Monster Mansion Yeah, yeah, on B-wing Oh, he was in Monster Mansion too? What was that like? Great!  It's not... That's... That don't even make sense It was all there All the Sidney Colk He married a 21 year old Scarce fellow there And they married him in the jail Just pure homosexuality in there Was this before Or was after Paul Sykes was there?  I think he got a liftoff in the end Yeah, but he got the... The colour deep in there Served him up in the showers Cut him up Yeah, served him up But good kid he was What was he like then? His side save Sykes' son Yeah, he was great He was odd He could have a good mate He could swing his face And he was a unit Yeah You know, in them...  Yeah But, you know, in jail You get the notoriety for a week Then you forgot about it Somebody else has it And then the thing is If you're the toughest Someone else wants to make the name Someone else will make a name Of you Never As life goes on And carries on You're getting older and older and older So people think And they always do it That's life I've done it myself Yeah I'll snore this fella And you just knock him out And obviously, yeah I ain't never heard that I'll snore at this fella Hey, man, I got into it with Old boy down the street I snored him Snored him You too? I'm just using it in a sentence That was not true What I just said I'm just using it in a sentence Seeing how to work with my little lingo Not condoned, sensationalized Or anything I'm here on behalf of the media Learning Time So you've got to be ready for it Yeah, it's one of our recent tour And a lot of people were telling us stories About Lee Duffy and plus Duffy, yeah, yeah Duffy Did you hear anything about Duffy? Yeah, I knew a lot about Duffy Through the Newcastle That's because Sunderland Weren't it?  The bouncers were just locked the doors Yeah, they weren't telling me He couldn't come in Just bolt off Bolt them all off Yeah Yeah Yes, if you're interested If you're watching this We have done the audio books The audiobooks The Whole of the Moon There's a whole series of them On Amazon If you wanna Viewers wanna Listen to them For some reason If you've never watched Sean I like myself The link to this Original visuals I edit that out The link to this Original video is down below In the description Check it out Hopefully we'll get your book out At some point as well Oh, so me? Yeah, it'll be a good book Alright, so Two days in Monster Mansion What was the next one? The next one was Manchester I went on Ewing there I was there about Two and a half months Got arrested for the murders So that's strange ways Strange ways there What year was this then? This was in 2005 Because we interviewed Loads of people that Had been in strength That was in high school That's a bad joke, you know You know, but The monks aren't bad people I mean, what's that like? He went from Monster Mansion To Strange World Most of the people were strange There's always been Because of the football and that But I've gone there And I've turned up about Half seven in the morning Because I've gone from Wakefield Street There, no court case So I've got All My Stone Island on And I've gone bowling Down the stairs When we blank it And they're all like That's it Who's this cunt? You've got to have paperworks So I've got Talking to a Scarce fellow Two of them Two brothers Porky and Willie Come really good pals of mine And they've said Are you a mate So I've told them They said Hang on, I made a phone call And they said Yeah, yeah, good as gold This lad's good as gold And I was in for drugs And all that Obviously they've phoned Somebody who's in the know From Liverpool And knows us in Nottingham So I got accepted then Without paperwork And then I just cracked on Made the right meal of it And I got knuckled down There's some good lads there They've made some proper Good pals Did you ever sell me?   I said yes mate Sound And just live That's what you've got to do Went up to 21 stone Come out at 21 stone I did Massive But no training Just eating Fat as if on So you should use A diabetic Yeah dad One stone is 15 pounds Right 15 times 21 is Hey Siri What's 15 times 21? Times 21 is 315 About Off the top of my head 15 times 21 is about 315 Something like that 315 If it takes something like that That's massive I bet it It's diabetic 34 years So at that point in your life Did you add that coma situation Or did you add it? Yeah I know I had the coma in 2004 I'd had it Yeah Let's go back to that Then what happened around then? Yeah Sean is from Liverpool I hear it So let's go back to that then Glad What's going on with you Sean? Honorary scouser here man You know what I'm saying? Please don't block my video You know I was at every drinker in them days And I'd gone on the session I was having an ale not food And I've gone to bed one night And my brother and I had to break in in the morning Because I'm unresponsive So they've broken They've booted the door off They've come upstairs And I've got up swinging So he's knocked me out He's put me on my chin and knocked me clean I phoned an ambulance Carried me in the back of the ambulance And then followed it in his Range Rover Got to the hospital I was asleep for six days Not because of the punch Because my blood sugars went below two millimoles And I went in a coma Did you have the coma before that? No that's the first one I had The first one? Yes But I was in it And when I woke up I've come around on that I didn't know where I was And I didn't know who was who All I could remember is my mom and Colin Didn't know so One of my best friends He got diabetes He was about He was about twenty one stone as well He got diabetes And he lost weight And he was real real skinny Not real skinny He was like Like the size he was supposed to be And then he started taking his medicines But before he started taking his medicines He would go out Turn up all the time And not take him And his foot started tingling And you know in Chicago We think everything is a joke So one day we was talking about each other Like joking around And I was like Okay sugarfoot I'm sorry That's it That's it Alright Didn't know my wife, Sandy Didn't know my children Didn't know nobody Arrendous So how long is the rehabilitation From that getting your memory back? Well it's getting fully back now And that was 2006 Now my short term memory is crap Long term I can remember years ago And my short term life What we've said I don't remember So I have to write things down So when you got to go from the hospital I always wondered how a short time Long time memory loss worked Is it just me or like Okay if you don't have trouble With your short time memory And I say something to you right now And you don't remember it Will you remember it Will you remember it six months later or something The long term memory cool That was six months ago I said it You didn't remember it on the spot But it's a minute ago now Did it come back? Like what's going on?   He claims he's a bad man Doesn't he You know but He's obviously locked So he's still an Wrong person And drenching them On my dad's Yeah to the parents Absolutely Absolutely So he hit somebody up But it was a mistaken identity Showed no remorse Didn't even care He was It is what it is That's tough It's terrible mate Isn't it? It's terrible Piece of shit I've never had anything So cold in my life Yeah that's cold and flooded No sense No feeling That's what they say isn't it Yeah Yeah Crash dummy Crash it out at every cause He can Alright So all that drama Was going on then And you guys You got the MI5 on you Well the MI5 was a special branch And the only reason I knew At the time I was going out I was going Where was I going Like that And I used to have a burberry bag When we're doing And I've gone through And they've snatched it off My car today And I knew you could take £10,000 out of the country At that time And they said Mr. Goan where are you going With this £10,000 I said What the fuck's he got Who are you So we're officers From special branch And that Right So anyway I've swallowed that I said I'm going to spend it What do you fucking think I'm going to do And talk my bag about it And just went Cause you could have that In those days And they're sat on the plane In front of me And they come to Spain With me and everything So it was them But it was good It was very good It was on your bum It was excellent mate When you go for your Police paperwork And you think From now Where's he come from I've never seen it That guy was on the next table And the Indian restaurant Yeah Taking pictures You don't even see them And you know That's before the days Of the drones and that But yeah It was on you It was good The photos they had God knows So there was Headlines saying Shotting them Now we've got A lot of American viewers Are not familiar Of a lot of this terminology Yeah Could you explain what Shotting them How that came about That name Well, Shotting them Because they were saying There was over 20 shootings A month from that I mean And not just England It's like Syrac I get it It's all over Black on black White on white And everything There was lots of it But it was called Shotting them Because this is not safe Because at the time The police didn't come up Best would We pleased best would At the time The police didn't come up Park or drive around Or anything We did it So could you explain All that If the viewers You saying you pleased it Yeah What does that actually mean Meaning People who Saved someone got burgled They don't phone the police They phone me and Colin Our lads have found out Who's done it Tech and Rand Where I'm in Get the people to tread On the reds And all that Or smash their hands in I used to be in a lot of hoods In America Until it got real Till gang got Till gangs got Too political I guess Or too Too money hungry I don't know It used to be for the people For the people's protection At least in Chicago You know I'm still like a don in the acts But I'm just saying That's you know With Amazon That's the sort of thing That went off in them Burglies went down There was no joy riding on the estate Because of the children None of that And they're playing football on the streets Anybody who joy ride They had their legs done Anybody who stole from us Had their hands done That's what used to happen So I think the Americans would relate That to the kind of like The mafia Don Colin Yeah it was kind of But we weren't no mafia Or out like It was just Just people looking after their zone And you know If someone's burgling your neighbors Let's get the stuff back And make them feel embarrassed And beat them And they're not going to grass you Because they're not They're going to grass themselves Yeah So you just used to put them to sleep So the next terminology then That we need to explain to you Is the burger bar boys What does that mean Ah Where is he from That's what Cartel Oh Nottingham Okay Burger bar boys I remember them They had a feud with the Yardies Or what gang What the hell the gang was in That was another gang With a crazy name I did a reaction on the Burger bar boys verse Burger bar boys They had the Birmingham lads They're relatively With the Johnson's aren't they But I know a lot of the burger bars And I've got a lot of good friends In the Johnson's So I don't get involved in the mix I wouldn't Although they don't like me For talking to one side from the other But it's all jail things You know But yeah There's some good stuff in them And it's all started In the rave days didn't it Where we used to Used to go drilling And slagging each other off On the mic And that's what started it Right Yeah that's what done it So you know Colin What he's written to us He said certain things That he wanted to get The record set straight on And one was There was an undercover cop Who wrote about infiltrating the burger bar boys And has he written about you guys as well?  Civil asset Forfeiture law I don't know what part of America You're talking about, sir No, they do not Maybe in Alaska No, not even Alabama Not even I don't even know What year was this shot? What year was it? But in most states Marijuana in America I am in America I'm in Florida Most states weed is legal If it's not legal recreational It's legal medicinal And you can carry up to 28 grams So I don't know where Let's go throw that out there And even if you Even if you have a smaller mountain Back when it wasn't legal to cops I don't know In Chicago at least I'm going to speak on behalf of Chicago I can't speak nowhere else They just going to throw it out Or keep it for themselves Allegedly Yeah, yeah Just have it now So your mam and dad lost the car Yeah, yeah, yeah A few tickets Fuck it all So there was a few other stories and legends That you guys wanted to address You and your brother wanted to address There was a journalist wasn't there? Yeah, there's a journalist We call him the co-caid journalist I'm not going to mention his name He's not worthy of it But he's wrote books on us Complete fabrication He's labeled my brother a police Y'all had a crackhead cop A co-caid journalist That's tough Former Which could Entirely put his life at risk In the prison estate You know And then what he's done then He's fed the information On to other journalists Then it gets It's repetitive It gets repeated and repeated And repeated But Colin's got no voice Because he's Iris Cate He's been Iris Cate For 17 and a half years now So now I've got all the information Here off the police You've had a copy Sean And yeah so All the information off the police Say Colin's never been an informant And he's never been paid for information And at the time Of the so called informing It was 2001 to 2002 Been in Spain for two year on the run For some afraid You know so you can't possibly be informing Especially on other gangs That ain't my brother Anybody who knows me And my brother knows That won't be tolerated You'd just be gone So you know I've watched these videos And these journalists Or YouTubers or whatever They're just like Same with authority And this year You know Colin became a police informant And that's how he was able to like Keep you know The cops Wouldn't investigate him for things You know what that is man Go investigate his competition And shit A lot of these little channels man They just go out here And they just try to get clicks Likes And they're trying to They're trying to say Whatever makes a club Get a like Whatever gets views man Whatever gets you reshared Oh Wesley let me share this So people know now man There's no factual There's no real journalism Behind it There's no real craftsmanship There's no real respect That they have for their own work You know what I'm saying I don't like when When people do that Shot journalism That ain't even That's not even True to the game You know what I'm saying I've been doing so many reactions Like That'd be my opinion man I'd be seeing it I'd just be like I don't know Work states you Like demand Man where Who said Where does this say that at This all This all come from the thing We had a pal who Who was the manager of the shop Limies One day I mean I don't have nothing To do with Old Bill or anything But one day The fellow we were running He's rang our call up He says Call Charlie is joining the Old Bill And he said He'll be good for information And that But Colin said I'm not interested in me But in the end Because you say you're in town And people would get whacked Or get whacked out Or get dressed up And you'll say Your phone J Or you'll say J That's Charlie Who's grassy and me And then People going around Having a word And all the chargers were Dropped You can't do it now But in them days That's what used to happen And then it's gone From that To Was buying him £1,000 Armani suits And all the Pollux It never happened Never happened I don't know If Colin Never gave him a drink Through J But you know They're buying scooters Right So a couple of the old bill Used to come down there They had an opening party And that Used to be there And they'd probably say leave it They don't say it They're buying scooters off Does David Gunn Have a Most dangerous man With What's his name? Danny Dyer That's where he may be That's where I might have seen him at We used to go to Vietnam Getting all the scooters Doing them all Vespers and lambrettes And they're selling them in his shop But you know But no informing And no payments You know But I think they all got Jay in the end Because of Charlie Jay Groke got free I think Charlie Fletcher So Fletcher's the one The dominant one in the news stories is That Colin Put this guy into the police force Yeah, nonsense Never met him Never met him Never met him And then The junkie author In his book He's saying that Colin was at school with him And all that Was either the author Or the crackhead one Was in his book One of them books Colin was at school with him And that Colin's a lot older than him You know, he went on to school with him People be saying anything Just to make their story connect Just to make their story make sense Like, I'd be listening Like, this isn't real life too I hurt like This is like habitual liars People just lie, lie, lie, lie Just to make themselves sound right Even be believing themselves sometimes Crazy No one knowing Never met him That's one of the other myths Then that we wanted to dispel There was a woman Wasn't there that was saying things About Colin Yeah, yeah, yeah Well, that one was I mean, the fella's doing life now I won't mention his name But he's doing life for a murder In Nottingham He was out with his wife at the time And her friend was out So she said she fancied Colin So he's ran Colin Come out for a drink with us, Colin His bird fancies you So Colin's gone out And he's met this bird And at the end of the night They've gone back to an hotel But she's sat up all night Sniffing coke and taking pills So nothing's gone off And then it's gone on for about Another two or three days And he's never done her But she's then gone to the police If she skits a friend of his Turned out she is Right, but she's gone to the police And they've had her for nine weeks And she's saying to him Yeah, Colin's told me about The murders of the Stirlands We've had gang meetings In basements with drug dealers Constant bollocks What she was telling But anyway, the information Was that reliable? She weren't even a witness On the murder charge You know, it was just total nonsense And they knew it were total bollocks And they had a nine weeks That's it I mean, I don't even know the bird's name But just disregard everything she says But then you get the offer Then jumping on it Colin had a penchant for teenage girls He didn't have a penchant for teenage girls It went out with a young girl at 19 Colin was 32, I think She was 19 And they lived together for a few weeks That was it You know, but You don't make your sex offender She's 19 for folks' sake Our married at 19 Between kids It's just desperation, isn't it?  It was on trial for the murders We started I was on remand I was on remand in January 05 I went on trial for the murders For four months in I think it was June Yeah, June June the 6th, 06th And then it finished in about October What was it?  Yeah, you select them Your QC select them So I think we had 50 odd And you just picked 12 out of them But, you know, you say You don't select them Your QC's and the judges select them On the clerk of the court But you turn around and say I don't like him He looks this or he looks this Or I know his face But we didn't know the faces Because it was the middle of Birmingham But you get rid of who you think You don't like Because some people have that Wrong look about them If they'd have found you guilty So there's like jury selection That's... They do that in America too, right? How much time would you got? I'd have died in prison When we've got a river got a 35 I'd have got the same This podcast is sponsored by Harry's Harry's is way more than a super sharp razor company They're here to revamp your whole Unfortunately, I can't do razor shaves But salute for you, my boy For getting your coin You for supporting Harry's Link is in the description box below this video So you're saying that They found you not guilty And they found him guilty That's what happened Yeah, because No one gave evidence Everybody who gave evidence for themselves Was acquitted The three who didn't give evidence They got potted So I've always said You've got to give evidence But they'll attack you And throw that much stuff at you You're in serious trouble And especially people like my brother And he just needs your temper He's still not offering them out When they're mentioning Jamie You bastards and all that He used to lose his temper by saying But you have to kind of calm down a bit Don't you?  What are you laughing at? Like take a spree Don't bring in the verdict What was it for you? What was going through your head? There was out for about five weeks The jury was out And we thought it'd be out a couple of days And the question was You swear to me? You swear every day You just sit downstairs Then the area Ring ring Court one Everyone's court one You think you're a verdict Up you go It's a question They want a question Five weeks of that That's torture Just questions it was torture me But you know me I 100% knew I've done nothing wrong And I've told the truth So I've got nothing to hide And my brother and them They're innocent But they've been found guilty Say it's an uphill struggle now Well even though you knew You were innocent The court is theatre isn't it And they've spent all that money They've put in the best theatre show Haven't they?  I was last, yeah How did it feel when they found your brother guilty? Devastated me mate Devastated because Really I should have been the happiest man in the world But I was gutted I was glad I couldn't be happy So that's it now You've got the downer at heart And the upper of you And the upper of you know You're gonna be going Clashing at me But they clashing and colliding And just imploding Because I'm thinking I mean man's gonna feel She'll be happy for me But she can't show happiness Because of me brother And all that You know how your family's gonna feel It was a horrible time mate But you know After being on remand for two years In the end Because of the drug charge and everything And getting found not guilty You don't get an apology You just get looked at Like you've got to leave with it Then they take all your dough off you Yeah That's what they do Yeah Even people are innocent On death row They don't get an apology Don't get an apology No apologies They'll give you a few quid And you'll give them But I never even got a few quid I never got folk all Like talk Yeah So you were released right away that day?    Yeah I had a few good stories in Spain I lived there for five years I had a few doing all the tobacco and all that Were you on the run out there?  They only don't mess with me Are they? The civil guard?  No mate Not me He lived in Yeah Used to do a few Never get in trouble Somewhere that's not Your homeland You know what I'm saying Like if I come to the Not if When I come to the UK I'm the model citizen I am Hey How are you Shaking hands Yes Please stop All the way at the stop sign Look both way You feel me Like I'm not getting in trouble In foreign land You have bits and bobs for people Just to get a few quid You know You have to serve a few up on that Who have been faced it But Get a few quid out of it To keep you going Yeah While you're waiting for your door To come in and that You've got a graft on you How did you been on the run end?    No, they're blasé mate They're on the one track mind They just want wealth And they want it fast And in the course of the wealth If people knock them And don't pay them they'll wig them Why do you think it's become so deadly? I don't know mate I don't It weren't like that in our day But then in our day There weren't many guns about it They're prevalent now mate They're everywhere They're re-boring them You know starter pistols again Reborn and filled in at the top But I don't know People say it's the rap scene It's the drill scene and all that But it's not It's the people themselves You know You obviously want to do it Or you want to do it You can say I listen to that And I'm going with the flow But you don't have to carry a gun You don't have to mate Or knives Knives are worse than guns for me Can't stand blades Yeah, interesting Did you ever get attacked at all Throughout your incarceration? No, never No, never mate Did you see some heinous violence Oh yeah Or what kind of stuff I've seen slashings with about 300 nature from the neck to the waist When it was going off with the Muslims in that From the neck to the waist? I've seen slashings with about 300 nature from the neck to the waist When it was going off with the Muslims in that It was going off bad Slow down on that one What do you mean he was going off with the Muslims?     I've seen it go off loads of times Could you give any stories on that?    The high and the low, the high was when I had all my money. What year was that? I had all my money up until 2004. Then I got lots up early 2005, then they were finding it and everything. Found loads, they did the work and we had them on as the top boys have been on, as the James Bones of the crew they've been on, so they know where you're going, the picture you're going and all that. And the serious low was my Jamie, obviously.  When your brother got guilty that was probably the worst. That was the serious low as well, but Jamie was the worst. Colin's a big man, he can handle it, but at the time I'd have given my life for our Jamie just to be the only young kid who had not seen life at all. Just had a boy, a heartbreak in me, sad. You just never get over it mate. You never get over it losing one of your kids and that. My sister especially, it's terrible. What about funny stories from your party days? Talking about fire. We've had some crackers, real cracker, funny ones mate. Obviously I've told you about Omar one, we've had some good ones with him. We've had some proper good parties mate. Funny, I was always into the football though of me. Just concentrating on the forest and going to all the games and having it on the terraces. In my young days, I was thriving off it, I loved it. So you found the rise of the foot soldier. Yeah, who Carlton Leach had that. Seeing it on Patreon, if anybody wanted to come watch it. Yeah, yeah, well he had a few words about his dinny on that Laura the gun documentary. I don't know. Yeah, Carlton Leach was on there. He bigged us up to be fair to him, but yeah, I respected him for it. Because a lot of them would come on and slag the obvious you hadn't done that, killing them. And all that being convicted of that, but he didn't. He'd come on and proper glorified it. He'd thought, yeah, good lads, and he was on there with me. But they both put good words in for us. It was nice to see somebody at least saying something nice about you because after all the media bollocks and all that, you're just getting assassinated every time. And it gets to the state where you've had enough of it. You fancy swinging at someone, but you don't know who they are, leaving comments because you get all the detrimental comments of wankers under pseudonyms and all that. And you're never going to find them. You could leave your number, they'd never ring you and say, come on, I'll meet you and let's have a straightener on the field. Just wankers, you want to shout out the window. Not ever one time, my boy.  They're putting different voices on. They're just tossers and they all know who we're on about. All people who are watching this now, a lot of you have done it. How did you become friends with Curtis Warren? Curtis, my good pal. I knew Curtis in 92 when we were doing a boar stall. No, 83 when we were doing a boar stall. And then obviously you've moved on and moved on. He's got big in the game and that cocky book come out in the early 90s when I've read it. And then I bumped into him. He was on the special unit with our Cole and I bumped into him at full certainly come there. I say, hey, I'll Curtis and colleagues brother Dave say, I know you lad and all that. And all that. I don't all get that. I've been just dead good pal since then. Good stuff. Good stuff. But if super fit went down to that, Curtis did. Because he was a big unit, won't he? But he went down to that super fit, tech padded tennis, badminton and the lot. Super, super fit. Love the guy to bits. And I hope he gets out soon, mate, because it's wrong what they've done to that fella. What did they do to him? Well, they'd get him another 10 for the proceeds of crime. He went to the phone asking about the price of weed. Got about 13 years. And if that ain't enough, they've asked for 200 million for a phone call and get him 10 year on top. What do you do every day of it? So he's trying to shake him down. Yeah, shaking him down. Because of all the media. They did them dirty. They set an example with them. You know, they portray him as the richest criminal in British history. He's billionaire and has killed someone in a Dutch jail and he's done this.  And you know, you get people who read it and they think, because it's been written by a reporter, it's got to be true. But reporters just want views. It's just false. Using clickbait. That's what I just said earlier. Remember I said that? People just be on here for clicks and views and whatnot, man. And that's why I like to go watch the real nowadays, man. The real stuff being podcast like these with the actual person sitting there that can defend himself and debunk a lot of the stuff that's being said. That's it. And the famous Chestnut used it. It's off a source but Wanko doesn't disclose the source. So you can't challenge it. You know, yeah, it's off a source Wanko doesn't disclose it. And that's the line they used. Complete tosses.  The one dreamer coming up and saying, I'm the reporter. I'm this and I'm this. I've had it all, I've had it for decades. So on your longer sentence then, did you work your way down from the Cate? No, yeah. Like I say, I went to, I went from Cate. And then I ended up at Ladham Grange for the last six months. And then I was being mapper three level three with the danger to the public. This said to me, you can't enter the city of Nottingham. You're moving from a straight away, get your kit back, took me straight to Woodhill. And then about a week later I was released and I was in an hostel called Fourplands in Northampton. Right, but there that's where I swore and got recalled after about two months. And to be fair, I didn't want to be in an hostel any longer. I swore. Bro, no you didn't.  That's a salt. Anyway, probably I'm with my kids in that. You shouldn't do what you've heard for four years and then you're stuck in the front. But I'm a rock out with you. You swore on my back. They did your bogus. Can I still win answers? What was your plan as you're in there until you're released? I was planning on just resuming what I do to get dough. I do a couple of bits of debt collecting here and there. No threats, right? Just going to say, look, yo, this doughmate, are you going to get it weighed in? Get paid, get good dough out of it. I've had a few goodings. And it helps you live, doesn't it? So no drugs. I said, I'm never selling drugs again. Don't want to get near them. Don't touch drugs. These mad drugs, I have a couple of pints now. I've had two pints today and that's the first pints I've had for three and a half months. Not even had one. Really? Yeah, just stayed off it all. And all these books then with all these legendary stories, is there any other stories that you need to put to rest?  I've covered that. Being announced for shagging a 19-year-old. But there's loads of stories, one point to rest. They're all in them books. I mean, I've got things in here. Is the stuff in your notes that Collie wants us to go over? Yeah, let's have a look. I mean, I've done that crackhead copper.  This is why I came here with a notepad ready. I go, yeah, it's my time. No one's ever seen that man in his lives, you know. And bearing in mind, he claims he's infiltrated and got all locked up. Was locked up by Lincolnshire Police. No, to do with Nottingham. Collie's never been nicked for drugs in his life. You mean Lincolnshire Police?  Wasn't there something going on with Lincolnshire Police versus Nottingham Police? Yeah, what they done, they got a test. You mean Nottingham Police? Telegram come through from, Nottingham she did, from Lincoln. No, Jones Stirland apparently had phoned the covering officer who dealt with them. He said, who had a move there? Phoned him and said, we've had a parlor in the garden. And the fella says, right, we'll send an email to such and such at Lincolnshire and they'll come and see you in the next hour, but it took him two days. And when they come, obviously there was a deceased person. Of course. He said, I'll send an email. At that point, he might as well send a carrier pigeon. He ain't gonna never see that email for a minute. Surrendous.  But then there was all at war over it. See, with Colin, right, it was on a trial. He's got another nine-year, nine-year three months. Right, a police corruption with the copper who worked at Limers and all that, right? He got that. But what he done, he went to court, sacked all his legal team and said, look, I'm doing a 35 wreck.  And he said, take me back to the Nick. So he got to talk back to the Nick and never went again. We got nine-year three months on top of the 35 wreck. Right, but on there, we then whacked that wanker calling him a grass in that. That is the time to say he was a police informant, and this is how he was getting information and that.  And that's the horrible thing about it.  But it's absolute, it's fuming, Colin is. And there's that paper in Nottingham. It's wrote to them. They took everything down off the internet. This has all come from Phelström. He's given the information, printed this story on Colin Gunn. So they printed a story. Anyway, I've gone and seen him. I said, look, mate, yeah, rage is here, pal. I said, there's no foundation to this. I've shown them all the paperwork.  I said, it's come off Phelström, David. I said, don't believe a word the man says. There's an out and out junkie. And all that, but... But anyway, they took it all down and apologized. They wrote him a written apology.  But there's lots of things, but they just wind you up, don't they? There's a whole bunch of clickbait, man. He got three pages full of clickbait from reporters.  And then... The best clickbaiter of them all, the best example for newspapers to do clickbait. Just watch Spider-Man. What's the... Jameson is his name? What's his name? The reporter? That's Spider-Man I work for? The best clickbaiter in the world. Hands down. Fictional or non-fictional. And this is Bird, who tried to claim he's told of things like folk. Probably won't talk to nobody. Won't even talk to my mates. Yeah, it was tight, wasn't it? Don't talk to people, yeah, tight. Won't talk to nobody, especially about business. Her business got mentioned. Nan again, he had a line of gear. But he was on steroids, yeah, you know, maniac.  Because us all, was all out of it and all buzzing. And you don't like to see laughter and people enjoying themselves.  That's like when I was dating my very mama. And I had no fun. Like, as soon as she heard fun. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So how many siblings do you have? I've got this me, Colin, my sister Julie, obviously Jamie's mother, and my young brother Andrew, who got kept clean out of it, said you're not going to get involved in our life. What does Andrew think about all this? Great, great. Because if they ever got needs for something, I'd have to swallow it and say I did it. Because my man would have gone, he's my young brother. I mean he's 50, but he's still my baby. He kept me and we kept him out of it. He's got his own business, tarmac in the dropping curves and all that. He does really well, bless him. Proud of him to be fair and he stayed straight out of it.  She swallowed it now, mate, but it's difficult. Because she's 79 in my business. So it's very, very, very difficult. But before she does, she wants this appeal to come through. Yeah. And this is what I was saying about the QC and what he's done with the main witness. Corrupt us for. Yeah. And does she go visit him? Yeah, regular. Yeah, she'll go once a month and the lads will go up. Now I can visit him now because I've finished my licence. I've had a GPS tracker on for 20 months where they've been following me without following me. So, and it's a bit obviously bogged so they can hear what you're saying and that. All right. So, Babe has got a ton of stories. We're hoping to develop a book with him. Part two. That's it, man. It's a salute to the rest, man. It's a long one. 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