Welcome everyone, thank you for taking this night to share this beautiful presence with us. We've got a nice little cozy clubhouse, courtesy of Jen, who's our host, and Chris and Bao are here living pretty close in this area with Serena and so we just feel we are so among friends and Anna has traveled here from Chemis, Utah, bringing her guitar and her presence and joy to share and collaborate. Maybe I saw some collaborations with Charles coming along here too, a lot of music. And Helena and I have not joined together in a gathering for a year and a half and we have traveled all over the world and we did it for years so it's very very precious time for us to come together and spend these days just in the presence and out of deep meditation and then to just come out and share with you. And tonight too I just feel like it will be a celebration we have so much amazing music here to share with you this evening and also just to join with you in the deepest prayer of our heart to let this be a blessing to God and a song of rejoicing really that we share. And it's the first time I've been out here for a while but I recognize a lot of familiar faces and it's just so precious for me to come out again to this area as I've been doing quite a bit of traveling and Helena's come all the way from Sweden a long way. Do you want to just breathe everyone or share anything? Yeah it's so nice to be back here. Yeah it's been so joyful being here in this area and I know sharing music here has just been enjoying my heart and I'm looking forward to do that tonight too. Yeah and I'm just so happy to be here with David as well. We traveled for or we lived together for four years 24 seven and traveling around the world and so it feels wonderful to be here again and so yeah thank you. And this we've chosen this site to kick off we're calling a quantum love tour. So that's a song that came through Kirsten and it's something that we all feel it's such a huge expansive love sometimes it goes for agape love or unconditional love but here now we're getting a little scientific to quantum love. Put those words together. We were talking about technology earlier it's going smaller and smaller it's going into rings and watches now and we can put quantum love together. It's bigger than the two of us. Love radiates undefined because we all know that love can't be defined and God can't be defined and so this love is so huge and so expansive it goes way beyond any concepts we have in this world but happily we're opening to it we're coming into this experience of it as a living presence and so that's something to really rejoice with. So as usual we just really come in and ask that the Spirit use us and join with all of you in this deep presence and and then open it up just to be given over to the Spirit to be used so it's a big collaborative effort in a quantum way we've all chosen this and tonight I pray that this will be a great expression of the love and the joy that we have that we keep sharing and extending and we're so grateful that you could be part of the kickoff of our quantum love tour. It's gonna go all over the East Coast and so this is kind of our West Coast launch and I think there in the early days I was doing a lot of what I called Hippity Hawk travel and yeah I had one that was part of a lot of that because we were literally sometimes going from place to place night to night sometimes from country to country even skipping around and then we went through a phase of doing more deeper retreats you know like three days five days seven days then four weeks and then a six week retreat we kind of went the other direction people go six week retreat my god it's like a little mini community yeah that's the way people felt they were ready to just kind of have a little community there when we ended that one so those were very precious and then now it seems like after kind of hosting people so many people that have come to live with us and community and practice these principles including we say no private thoughts and no people pleasing it seems to be swinging around more to an extending phase maybe to use a technological word a digital like we're a digital community we just like to share and extend but it seems to be going and swinging more so that's what this quantum love tour is kind of kicking off so yeah how shall we open it up tonight with with a song that would be nice we've got so much music tonight I think it's a good only right to kick it off with this song is about saying yes saying yes to be in the bliss saying yes to be with God which is the same thing being with him and his heart together being God's heart living breathing in it I say yes it's a journey of clearing out the mind emptying the mind of everything that's unlike God yeah turning with Helena we were just reminiscing to talking a bit with Jen the other night at the dinner table that this journey seems to be through the darkness to the light and I think that's something that most everyone can relate to the intensity of the darkness coming up and and in order to really have a consistent experience of reverence and devotion and joy takes so much clearing away and so much faith to really hang in there and yeah feels good we've really hung in there through everything that's what the mystics call the dark night of the soul and if you really go for it and just live your life in such devotion then the darkness will rear up back you were sharing those experiences from recently in Sweden where the spirit was ripping through so strong but then you might call it ego backlash or ego whiplash whatever you want to call it comes up because there's such a terror of the light and yet that's so essential using relationships using everything all the reflections of this world and not avoiding anything and so that's been something that we've really looked at and gone through the in this experience of coming to to clarity and a constant state of clarity really requires an empty mind you can't really hold on to any kind of grievances or idols and that's what I've been saying recently it's like even going on tour you you have to experience yourself as that presence in order to really extend it's not about words or anything else it's just about that so I thought yeah we're here to just as transparent vessels and an open book to join with you tonight and I think after that song maybe we'll just open it up a little bit if anybody has any topics or areas that you'd like to explore deeply we're here to join with you in that I know there's always these little thoughts whirling around and it's great to just get some depth and clarity so you can get underneath them and really sink down deep so just to start off are there any questions I know I lack nothing but I feel like I lack these relationships that y'all have with someone who can be to talk to and share with because I have relationships and I my stuff comes up with them the best I can but and I know I'm under no laws but God so why am I so fat you know it's not about what I eat and I exercise I'm under no laws but God's I practice practice I love this life that I'm living today through understanding and just growing but you know what why do people get so fat is it because my ego needs to learn some humility and give up the vanity and pride so I mean I'm sitting like a journal and I make progress I don't understand it intellectually too much it just gets revealed to me in the way I can't like verbalize but I'm very attractive to your no compromising and I'm never anywhere but accident I'm always right when I'm supposed to be at the right time and my life is so different and I'm in this journey and I have complete faith that I'm gonna get through and I want to not care about my appearance or what I look like it doesn't matter it's not who I am right that's nothing to do with who I am it's just an image everything here's just an image but I mean don't talk about the fat I mean it might be suicide or someone I mean but good gracious that's one of the worst things you could possibly be right but now look at me I just go more and more and more it's got to be just the lovely of the pride right thank you for letting me share it's just a listening I mean last night I showed a quantum physics kind of relationship movie and and in the if you get a broader broader perspective you start to see that the thing that seems so magnified and important in this world you know around the body and the life style and many things I was telling the group last night that there was a point where Helen Schuchman was like flying with Jesus past time so quickly that they almost missed her through past her entire lifetime as Helen Schuchman and she almost missed it is so insignificant because it was in the overall context of things but but the ego just blows things way out of proportion and it's the thing about form and content you know love is content and and the ego made the form it made the body and the ego is self-hatred so it hates the body even when it tries to control the weight of the body or or control the shape or the beauty and all these different things in many ways it's it's still the self-hatred is still in the mind and it's just has to be raised up to awareness that to the light and released and so it's good to start to think more of the body as a communication device and like St. Francis prayer Lord make me an instrument where you start to focus more on what is it that I would convey what kind of attitudes what I share what kind of attitudes and thoughts and ideas what I extend because ideas are strengthened as they're shared and it starts to take the focus off of the body and how the body looks and the form of the body and it starts to focus more and more on the purpose what is the purpose of the body it's just a communication device is until the mind becomes so whole and healed that it doesn't even need the body at all anymore it's just a temporary communication device and so to me that was very very important as I began just answering my calling was to be spoken through to let the Holy Spirit speak through me and laugh through me and smile through me and hug through me and you can start to feel your heart warming up and you get the warm fuzzies from getting into that purpose and then it just slowly pulls your attention away from the body in the world because the ego has used that as a way to project you know we've all heard of psychosomatic kind of illnesses and and really the mind is sick and then when that torment is not relieved then it seems to do the trick of trying to project it out to the body and then there's a lot more attention paid to the body even more attention to a sick body or a body that feels uncomfortable and it's just like a trap of keeping the mind so distracted and so caught up into the form that it doesn't pay attention to the thoughts and the beliefs now you were saying you would love to have somebody you could really talk to like that well with our communities and also even with online stuff like our mystical mind training program we have mind training partners sometimes they're different time zones or different countries sometimes they live very close as you've got Rebecca and Jen are maybe five ten minutes away and they do mystical mind training but but the spirit really helps bring people together in a way that you can teach and learn and relate to what you're teaching and learning so even people that live in remote areas can get paired up with people through Skype or through the phone or through ways where there's a real sense of of growing together learning together being able to express things and and even when trust builds to help help each other out sometimes even to point things out I'm sure that happens occasionally you can see to that where you there's enough love and trust in that little relationship that you can start to help point things out or remind and then it starts to really speed up the mind training in a big way so I think that just speaks to what you're saying that's where the focus comes and then the more you get focused in on that then other things you still you know will do things to help bring about some some comfort things that the world would call it a practical I've had friends who you know they had to watch their diet watch their blood pressure exercise those kind of things that come in those are all still magical because really only the mind is causative but the spirit works with the mind where it believes it's that and so you can start to get intuitive feelings of things that that you feel more comfortable with and more helpful in your life still you need a sense of purpose really answer your calling to build that momentum and start to feel that confidence in the spirit for the journey because it's going to be a very deep journey inward and it's just great that you come here tonight just to be among your your mighty companion yeah yeah from North Carolina you took a bus huh yeah from North Carolina that's a lot of persistence easy chair and everything's careful like yeah trust God he takes keys give me everything you know now I need to I don't know I gotta do something different why really interesting you know I'm like I really got just I had I live like a queen on a tiny bit of money and I'm sure I'm proud of how I stretch my money and I save a little money and you have trusted him that I've been here and right now I don't know where I'll be staying tonight but I will not regret doing this like I said I sit in that home trying to figure it out on my own it's just I have to go I have to follow his lead and trust him in and just get more of that experience that's what I'm doing that's great you know Molly wrote me an email she said okay I'm gonna connect with you and that's how it starts just just the willingness to connect you know we connect over an email and then all kinds of miracles have come in just through that connection and the spirits that spirits so wants to lift us up so wants to connect with us you know doesn't want us to stay trapped or feel confined feel limited wants us to take us on a journey and I've shared you know in my life you know the David character was very shy voted most quiet in the senior class a wallflower and and kind of you know they didn't like travel absolutely did not like travel and all these things and and everyone knows the story Moses stuttered you know and he was to deliver the ten commandments I mean it's not so much we don't have to have like a spiritual resume to say to God okay you know can you use me the spirit knows us better than we know ourselves and can work with us and lift us higher and higher and higher if we're just willing if we're just willing to take the steps and I think you are willing from North Carolina for this gathering I see tremendous willingness there so there you go shaking a little bit there whoa watch out she says these this I already have my ticket for when you come to the East Coast in May and green squirrel that's close to me okay one of the tour you're going to be at both ends Santa Fe all in a group yes in the back way in the back I love it so much when I was there I never felt so loved in my life I was there one hour I was talking like I lived there my whole life I'm entering this new phase of life I've got my children raised up and I have a home God has he pays the bill he's his house he lets me stay there and I learned to like turn it into a place where other people who say the course can just come come and stay there it's not mine it's his and me this is my the next thing this is all I want to do anymore is grow through the course of miracles and the interact with other people and shine like and get brighter and heal heal the mind yeah thank you thank you for bringing that up there it is right there it's just bubbling miracles cascading and rippling and the ripple effect yeah yeah I think the beauty of night is the the trust in the faith take that step take the first step fear who said that yeah can't climb well unless you take that first step yeah well we've got so much great music to share I'm thinking do you have the song that relates to this yeah and you need collaborators for it one Charles when I look at how our lives that seem to go that that really stands out for me in my travels and then recently Helena took some travels with her band the open heart and in Europe including buying a used motor home and all these adventures and it reminds me of my days really days of travel because we're having to learn to let go of our past learning and become more focused on the present moment and the trust of the guidance is within us as opposed to our past learning that wants to tell us how we have to do things all the time I thought maybe you had such glee enjoy taking that trip with such a walk of faith and trust but there was so many miracles like so many every day that it starts to give you the feel of practical everyday miracles and then that's what leads you in your life that's what helps build the confidence about maybe before we open up our next question you could just share a little bit about that tour you took yeah it was the most amazing thing we were given a motor home my mother she donated a motor home and it was from 1987 so it was it had many years on it and when we were going to drive on this one month long tour throughout Europe the first day we were going to pick it up we came from Spain to pick it up in Sweden and it's it it stood there for like a month in Sweden during winter time and we could not get it started first of all and I was like oh not a problem we'll get started in and yeah we get started and we got all the help and then we came to the cabin where we were staying and the guys in the back they were like hell no we didn't really dare to say this but it rained in here and we thought that maybe it's okay you know inside the motor home because they were sitting in the back right they had rain coming in and we were like oh and Alan and I went back in the motor home and we looked at the ceiling the whole ceiling was filled with water the whole ceiling and the walls and it was like literally gripping and we were like whoa and we're gonna live in this motor home for one month but you know what I feel so calm I feel so peaceful it's like it just feels good you know and so out he just took a towel and he just dried off and the ceiling and on the walls and and then they were like having a they had an expression session there when he was doing the towel and it was like this beautiful joining it was just like this that nothing can touch us it's just unless we choose to have that touching us that's like our decision if we just want to be present with whatever is this is like our choice so that was just the first night and then it just continued I mean I don't even remember all of the things now but I do remember when we came to England and we were stopping at a gas station and all of a sudden when we were going to start it again it didn't say anything the car literally didn't say anything it didn't even say nothing happened at all so we were like whoa okay let's see here with what it is and straight away Ludwig he heard what was it called motor starter he heard motor starter he knows nothing about car he was just like motor starter and maybe it's not called that and and so we were like okay and then after some time these guys drove up right next to the car and they were like in such a joy and they have like music going on and he was like so resonating with them and he was like I think we're gonna ask them if we they can help us and and and he was like hesitating I was of course let's go out there and ask them you know can let's trust this and so the guy was like asking three questions and then he was on to it he was like dog dog and on the right spot and everything and of course we could just drive off then and I mean it was just like all of the time these things that when we actually arrived in Sweden we'd had so many miracles for this car on and on and on and on and Ludwig he was going into it in the middle of the evening very late and it was dark and he opened up the cupboard and he saw it sparkly inside there it was literally sparked inside of the the closet with all of the water with all of them paper plates standing there right right next to the sparks and he was like whoa what's going on I mean we'd had the heat not working for them for like half of the month that we've been traveling but we were like oh well a little fix somehow we didn't know what it was and then it was this thing we took it to the car place where we had this guy that have helped us with all kinds of things I mean literally it's just he's just been jumping right in putting in a new stereo for us not needing to pay anything putting in a new sound system like loudspeakers not needing to pay anything and so he said let me have a look at it and he was like looking at it and we had had literally a fire going on in this motorhome and fire without not it we didn't even know it was like a fire within the cables so we just felt so carried that it doesn't even matter if it's like a fire if we're like totally clueless right we're just so safe in the hands of God and that's just everything that we can trust on and then whatever else can happen in the form and it can look however it is but every time we talked about the car every way every time we had a miracle about it became the spark in our heart so we started actually calling the motorhome the spark so that was the name of it many many more miracles with it but I can just tell you some of them and just this of the convincing job of the spirit that there's nothing else that we can lean upon but him and that he cares as to everything really you're right by a microphone do you want to know you're just helping okay you're just listening very good okay is anybody else have anything else you'd like to explore yes back on the couch hi there well I know for me working with a course of miracles for over 25 years that one of the lines that is in the course of miracles from Jesus is beware of the temptation to perceive yourself unfairly treated and because it always involves a lot of stress and a lot of anger and you know it's almost like the ego starts building a case as soon as there's the misperception of of being unfairly treated so we know that it's a very high teaching that all things work together for good but to actually go through the experience we have to allow those feelings that you're feeling to come up and we have to get into a practice of my call of mind training of learning to substitute other thoughts in place of the thoughts that we have where the grievances are and the hurt and the anger so the practice I did when I was doing the workbook lessons I'm thinking of one particular lesson which is I can be hurt by nothing but my thoughts it's a really good initial thought to start to begin to train ourselves that that nobody else is upsetting us nobody else is is harming us there's nothing of the world no people no places no things but it's our perception our distorted perception that's coming from our distorted thoughts that needs the healing and that's why in Buddhism they talk about emptying the mind the same thing with of course the miracles but you have to have the allowance first to let those thoughts come up into awareness and it takes a lot of faith and trust to do that and then it also helps to have witnesses mighty companions around you when the temptation comes in to start building a case or start you know holding on to that grievance or that perception that there's been some unfair treatment to start to loosen that up in the mind little by little so one of the things that you're talking about in terms of the court systems and so forth we could just talk about justice whether we're talking about criminal justice or any type of justice in the world there's a section in the course called the justice of heaven where Jesus comes right out and he says there is no justice in this world and that helps even to hear that because when the mind is so riveted on on being treated right or righting wrongs and trying to turn things around and use the court system or mechanisms of this world it's almost like being on a treadmill where you put all this time and effort in and it just starts to spin faster and faster and I have had people over the years that that told me almost their horror stories of kind of spinning on a treadmill until it just started to feel extremely insane like they just their anger and their frustrations got to be more and more and more I had a one friend from Michigan who was a lawyer who he was a divorced lawyer and when people with a couple would come in to get a divorce through him he had sayings from of course the miracles on his wall about forgiveness and I said oh some front a lawyer who's pointing to these forgiveness lessons when they would come in because he could feel in his heart that was the most helpful thing that he could do you know he was there really listen but he was there to point to forgiveness so it does take practice and yet the more you are determined to really turn things around and really let things go then you start drawing for more people more witnesses in the world more support for this big turnaround in the mind and it's you know you could say it's a lifelong devotion a lifelong process to that and but you're in really good company you really have really good company here you've come to a great place you meet friends you have support also just we just had a movie night in Sundari was saying that she was joining what you say riding the energy of when we flew into town and actually you settled a lawsuit that had been pending for I guess some time I don't know how long but it was like there was an energy to it where a couple years and then and suddenly the guidance started coming in where you start you knew just what to say just what to do and you kind of went through a guided negotiation process and then boom it was done so that's just a good symbol that's just something last night that Sundari was telling me about that just how when you really work it in your mind and you do get the reflections of that somebody else yeah I have a question I'm kind of like sensitive to my environment so it's like hard to read kind of being the world because I feel like I kind of take off on different energies and I feel like if I'm really in a happy like high state of mind then I can really deal with the world in a happy and peaceful way but if I'm going through a hard time then the world kind of feels like a battleground so I just want to figure out how to get to this high state of mind on a more consistent basis yeah well I remember you just came down I saw you in Mexico then there yeah that was a good experience for that do you have anything come to mind for that do you ever have any sensitivities to the world yeah it's so beautiful it's I feel like again like even private thoughts that they don't like we talked about you know expression sessions and that and and just even being in a room without even talking you know you can feel it when you're going through the process of watching your mind about everything and there doesn't even have to be expression sessions really you can pick it up and just that when we're going through that process it's so important to see that it's actually our own thoughts it's not other people's thoughts because it's so easy to think oh they think this and that but no no what do I think about that or them or you know that they even exist that there is even an ego because it all brings us down into this heaviness of thinking that it's real more than just watching them like clouds that go in the sky kind of a thing where it just like comes and we watch it can I stay do I dare to stay in the love here do I dare to stay in the love right there okay I and then it comes next time and it's like okay so it's a beautiful watching just of that and just use everything in the way that comes in things that we think are in the environment and surrounding us are really just requiring a little tweak in the mind and we get we need to get into a good habit of turning inward for that tweak because we're so preoccupied with the problems on the screen so to speak the movie screen of the world and this little one it first came through rest and then how I did a real catchy tune to it and it's one of those things you can just you could be you could be washing the dishes and you know clean in the house or whatever and then your mind's getting washed with this happy tune and to me I like these kind of tools we need really good tools that are catchy happy that we can go go right with you know they don't seem like such a struggle maybe we can sing it together even okay here it is you haven't really lost your problems aren't out there no secrets can be kept hold all things to the light for secrecy in that it left the dark the high not to be survived the words that seem different are all and that's for you that's not the reason why like make the feeling the healing fun you know we can make it fun we don't have to think of it as a drudgery that we have to work through and struggle through the more lighter we can keep it the more playful we can keep it then I think it just we start to build a confidence and a momentum like I can handle this I can be lifted lifted up and it turns the corner it really does and then you start drawing more support you know it can be people you know friends start contacting you books movies we're coming up with so many great movies over the years we've got our movie watchers guide to enlightenment which is fun it's a maybe like it's fourth or fifth edition and something if we just keeps expanding and expanding we have an online movie watchers guide now it's at mwge.org where we even take the emotions that you work through and we index them so if you're going through anger rage and the jealousy you know whatever guilt shame we actually you look up your emotion imagine you know you're going through this emotion you're trying to deal with it and you're trying to mantra you're trying to meditate but you can't meditate because you know you're so stirred up you're in the thick of the emotion and then you go well let me try this movie watchers guide to enlightenment you go through your emotional index and you find your emotion and then you are guided to the movie to watch that while you're sitting back and watch the movie it will help you break through that emotion you know how it works with certain movies you happen to find yourself with just a certain movie it it's a catharsis you cry you laugh you heal and so I call movies the modern-day parables Jesus taught in parables why not let him continue to use the parables like Groundhog Day and all these Truman show and there's so many and some of you might have seen Frozen the Disney movie just recently we were we were seeing a bunch of them there's it could be children's movies like all this the one the Lego movie was really deep I'm glad somebody took me off at the Lego movie was that deep it's it's animation but it's all about coming to see that you're the one and that your part is essential and at the very end of this animation movie suddenly it shifts and you've got a father and the son will Ferrell and the son and is it that what the course is about saying you know all your problems are an authority problem because you think you've separated from God you can make up a separate identity and you've got an authority issue going on with God that needs to be healed but it seems to play out in your daily lives in all these interpersonal ways but it's really a question of can I create myself as I wish to be or am I as God created me perfect spirit and that's what's being rinsed away so I was delighted to see at the end of this animation Lego movie there was a father and son the father was trying to control the son wanted to be more playful and have more sense of freedom and innovation and the father was using crackle glue to keep all the Legos stuck together and son wanted to come up with some new formations and that was what the whole movie was about the struggle to find harmony and to have freedom of expression that comes from within so you know it's a really amazing thing there are so many tools and if you find your spirituality still seems kind of methodical and dry and repetitive and struggling and challenging then that's what I've been doing I know our whole life has been spent making music doing videos putting together little worksheets instruments for peace doing experiential kind of things anything we can come up with that will be helpful to the mind as a tool to make it more fun and that seems to be huge thing okay from Dari well try to ask the question okay so in listening to the music the movie last night I came the basic question is there's a screen going on I know it's my own thoughts projected and all of a sudden last night I saw that judgment and time were the same thing and that you made a comment that the future and the past are identical and so and Helena told this beautiful story it was like you're almost answering about the van and the rain and where we tend to judge what's on the screen and you've said to me before that there's no origin of what's on the screen and yet I go oh but that's all my own thoughts and and like when I what I learned from your story was it's all about your feelings and the emotional state one decides to hold holding the light constantly is a the perfection of everything unfolding kind of moment by moment miraculously the feelings of synchronicity is happening the thing is I seem to be judging even in the synchronicities looking at the screen and making judgments about it and judging how I am from what's happening out there as if it's reflecting my true my value and and my mind goes back and forth on that say well that really isn't my value and yet it gives me a reflection of where I think I am so I make judgments about it which puts me in time and so I'm lost in that little loop of something happening out in the world and thinking my thoughts created it and yet knowing it's totally meaningless and I don't have to judge it at all but I get in this loop of but that's how I know where I am so I'm asking how to pop out of that and where to pop the bubble lady's getting there yeah this is a question for us this is the core question yeah well the dynamic is projection makes perception and so what is projection I mean you know we've heard about it in psychological terms you know Sigmund Freud and projection as a defense mechanism but what Jesus says in the course is projection is a way to get rid of something that you do not want while keeping it isn't that a bizarre thing we've got going on with this world is that attempt to get rid of something you do not want by but yet keeping it by keeping it it's a trick from the ego to seem to make it seem like it's outside when it's just a thought and that's why as you go along you through the healing process you start to like I always think of like a fishing rod start to reel in the projections it gets pretty intense because it goes from there to blame or they did it wrong and they they they they they to I I I and it gets really heavy I have done this thing and it is this I would undo and this is where more and more turning the thoughts over to the Holy Spirit more consistently more transfer of training handing the thoughts over it starts to loosen you from this habit of thinking that you are the thinker of those judgmental thoughts you are the thinker of those attack thoughts how could you feel anything but guilty if you've got all this attack going on in your mind a lot of it's pushed out of awareness but a lot of us know that it's just simmering down there and even when you try to get into the power of positive thinking and be positive the attack breaks through sometimes it explodes through it bursts through in the Lego movie there was one character was what was the name Unikitty was so was pink and positive and then underneath Unikitty has a real rage going on under there because you can't cover it over you know it has to be healed so as we were talking about that story of trust like with the motorhome and we've had a lot of stories you start to realize that that's why it's called a course in miracles that you can literally become a habitually miracle minded you can learn to align with God and have so many miracles that you become more consistently miracle minded and more consistently miracle minded and then you undo the belief that that your source comes from outside of you from from jobs or even from the government or from economy or all the things that are believed to be the sustainers of the body you start to realize that there's a light in you that sustains your very being and is not plugged into any of those things you can start to loosen from them more and more and more we call it divine providence you just live there and after a while this happy tune you're singing this happy joyful light way of being that you're tuned into you start to realize is that you don't need projection there's there's no value in projecting anymore you wouldn't even have a thought of blaming somebody even if somebody seems to be angry growling or whatever I know when I went to China I the first time I went there there's a hundred and some people there and there's too many people to break it up into small groups so they just would put a chair there and they would bring people up and Chris was editing some of those old channel videos he was reminding me today at our afternoon lunch that one of them was a screamer she just got up and just she said just she just screamed at you screamed in your ear loudly and Jason was the one who went around he was kind of touching the ones and saying you'll be he was like thinking I had to pick a screamer I mean David comes all the way across the Pacific Ocean and I have to pick a screamer out of all these Chinese people but but when you're in a state where you so go within and you've so healed your mind and you've let go of the belief in attack that even what seems to be a screaming person with a red face in front of you two feet away there was no sense of defense there was no sense of reaction to it you know you you let go of all interpretations not because you should let them go but because you never really were capable of judging in the first place it was an unnatural thing to judge and the world that got projected out to try to get rid of this unnatural thing was just as unnatural as the judgments themselves they're really the same so when we learn to stop judging and we just follow divine guidance we then could be a blessing to everyone regardless of what their behavior is it doesn't mean we're not trying to change behavior at all we're just seeing that there's no world outside of our mind that takes a lot of mind training to start to realize there's no world external to your mind we know we're not trying to sugarcoat it and just say you can twinkle your nose or click your heels together it's a course that requires practice it requires vigilance it requires you know mighty companions showing up to help you when you feel like you're really knocked down low and the ego's got you down in the dirt you need helping hands along the way and that's been really the story of how our life has gone and and really even in our lives you know to hang in there and have the faith over these years of whatever the ego intensity would come up it really was not capable of stopping the peace of mind especially when the light comes through then the ego just want to roar so it's beautiful and I actually had a song coming through recently that is called to see and it was this beautiful thing I listened I was in Sweden and I listened to David on spree on the speaker talks he has several beautiful beautiful talks on speaker that you can listen to for probably hundreds and hundreds of hours and in the course it says do not see error and he was given a talk on that speaker saying that when I heard Jesus saying do not see error that was just it that was like if I you know I'm not rephrasing but that if I cannot see any error that's it and that's it and I just felt to sing that part of the course you can see where innocence goes along with that if you if you never saw an error you couldn't experience guilt that's really what this is about a curriculum in innocence pure divine innocence and being guided by the spirit that guides you in everything that you're to say to do you don't have to react and respond to the world to the images you let it source through you you let it flow through you from that place of innocence so you're just teaching innocence by your attitude by your words by your actions you're never trying to call attention to error trying to call attention to mistakes most of us were raised of course in the ego system is don't do this don't do that here's the rules don't break the rules if you break the rules you get punished that's been a curriculum in guilt and punishment and we're being called into a curriculum of innocence which Jesus calls do only that if you stay aligned with the source then you radiate that innocence and you teach that innocence and the whole world will reflect that innocence as you come to the purity of that and that's the way out of hell the way out of thinking you're just so concerned about making a mistake that you get all frozen all tense all stressed and and coming into that innocence starting to really feel that and flow with that so that's leaving the correction of error to the Holy Spirit not trying to take it on personally as if you would know personally what that correction would be that's just not possible and it works that's the thing we're discovering in our communities there's a harmony there's a flow there's a synergy of collaboration and there isn't competition the conflicts fade away and in the end there's no desire to point out error because innocence is too precious you wouldn't want to blot that innocence out of your mind you want to keep it in your heart to keep it flowing through so it's that's the way we're going it's a fascinating topic and the thought I had came to mind was I guess it's a beautiful concept to try to apply to our lives but live it that way but how do you if you draw in or project a vision or an experience where an error is causing perhaps someone's physical life to be in jeopardy I'm not going back to my father's situation just creating an image here how do you not how you accept that or not bring that to someone's attention for correction and because it would be and I guess in some ways a personal judgment that there's a problem well I find that what in my experience it's that the whole problem of this world is is concepts and definitions that have been covering over the truth and that God and love are undefined and therefore even an experience of the definition of life being biological you know biological life human life and so on and so forth you know we go from human being and the emphasis often is on the human part not the being part and yet all the prenu wisdom says live in the now be present be the one that you are that you were created one with God that's the focus so I found as I follow Jesus down into my mind deeper and deeper and deeper I started to realize that that the world that I was defining this human life and life on planet earth wasn't what I thought it was not too long ago Ken Wopnick great teacher of the course passed away and I remember many years ago listening to a cassette tape way back in the days of cassettes when somebody asked him a question what does the course say about life on other planets and Ken didn't even pause he said well the course is there's no life on this planet great humor and right on because because what we would say is life on planet earth is described more as the course would say it's like image-making or adultery you know the Bible said make no images before the Lord that God we thought we were talking about you know gold tone poles and things like that he was talking about the whole cosmos all the cosmic images you know that make up all the galaxies and the quasars and everything are all idle images that were made to veil the face of Christ the cover over this divine love and light and we're we're asking that that they all be lifted through forgiveness so experientially working with that working with that somebody told me the story near the end of Ken's life you know he just matter of fact we said I'm not dying it's like I'm not dying you know really Ramana Maharshi great Indian saint you know he said to the followers who started weeping and crying around him with his glowy eyes even though his his frame was getting very skinny and and more skeleton like he had his glowy eyes and the words that came out very softly was where would I go you know it was just have you not been listening what I've been talking about here you know as if there was a grief of passing like he was going to pass away where would I go he said just a very simple question so to me the experience it takes practice and I've had to practice with the people in my lives with my cat my three-legged cat tripod at one point she looked like a little pirate of the Caribbean you know or one eye got real pussy and glossy and looked like she needed a little pirate patch to wear but through inner practice you know of not putting meaning onto the things in form there was a time when tripod was very young and we had this deep telepathic connection and I was getting so into the miracle that I didn't really what's the needing like medical attention and so on and so forth and and we kind of made a pact or covenant we would leave you know doctors and veterinarians out of this this and really go with the miracle really practice and so when she had her eye that was turning all these colors and everything I just didn't buy into the appearances and they did go away turned into a forgiveness lesson for a friend of mine who was an animal rescuer and was desperately trying to bring in medication and different things and I said no this is all just a lesson in forgiveness it's nothing harmful going on here at all you know and it was a lesson in letting go of appearances so the deeper we get into this mystical experience and mystical union with God we feel that life in our hearts we feel that joy we feel that love it's so so deep and it draws us in away from the attention on the body and on the belief that that life is in form or that life is in time and it's more like Sundari was just saying after watching Mr. Nobody last night the very quantum movie that you start to realize that judgment and linear time are the same that as long as we think that biological life or life you know in form is really life then we are deceived you know we're we're into adultery and image-making and we're coming into that sense that life is eternal and if we don't know life as in turn as eternal then we don't know life at all and we need to be humble and and open our hearts and say show me God you show me take me to eternity instead of show me the money show me the eternal take me there you can take me there beyond it but you see it takes a lot of humbleness and a lot of letting go to even let go of those definitions yeah I have a very fresh example actually the ones that I'm collaborating with right now with the band the open heart that you could hear here a little bit again now we actually stayed in the house in Sweden that had a cat in it and right before we're going to move into it I said to literally you know there's a cat right and he was like yep I'm aware of that because the thing is that he thought he'd actually died before when he was like in a house because he couldn't breathe he had such a bad allergy and he could like feel it for like at least two weeks after he'd been in a house with a cat and that was like his story but he said I need to go to that house and I need to look at my thoughts about this now and so we said okay okay we'll do it then so we went to this house there's this beautiful cat Kotek who also was all smashed up when we came there that's why the other house suitors they couldn't be there because they were like oh my he's like suffering he's suffering we were like oh he's he was really beautiful and we didn't see that at all and actually that was just one part of the story actually that just disappeared very quick when we came to we didn't give false empathy to that at all we were just like oh Kotek and just cuddled with him and but the thing is with Ludwig he had like a really hard asthma it seemed like he could hardly breathe and at the night he almost felt like he was dying every night and he was praying so deeply and he was saying I really want to get rid of this I cannot have this anymore and I have to go beyond I cannot think about the body and that this is about the body and these talks about that if we want God more than breathing then that's something that we can apply literally in a situation like that and that's what he went into and he started embracing it and actually he had days when he was totally clear and then he came back again and then he was totally clear and then he came back again so it was this thing that in the end Kotek he actually laid in his lap and they were cuddling and he just fully let go of his thought but that there was anything external that that could actually cause you know some kind of ripple effect of his breathing so that's another beautiful example and I've come to see myself actually being threatened to death by a boyfriend he was I never seen anyone so crazy in my whole life so angry actually he threw himself literally at the steering wheel having the gas down the pedal down on the floor and I just and he said you have to forgive me for what I'm about to do and I just as I spoke it was just getting worse and worse I was just like I'll just resign that's the one only thing I can do I just want to be with you good I don't want to blame him I don't want to think that I have created this I just want to be with you so I went in and I was so present that that was my one and only desire no outcome of anything other than that and we got home and he said how can you love me after that now this is a question how can you love me after that and I started listening to that question and I would like I just felt so much love first but then I was like oops and I bought the bait I bought the bait I thought I must be crazy I might be I must be put in a mental institution probably because this is a nutcase okay the course is talking about you know forgive no matter what but you're nuts you're like feeling the love for him here you should not feel alone you just went berserk because it was so much love that I embraced the presence of God so deeply in my mind and I saw it that's where I saw what it says in the course that we're not most afraid of dying or death or most afraid of loving it did because I bought into the fears about it I didn't hold on to that that feeling that I had in the car I actually bought the bait but I can say that I did not buy the bait at all with Ludwig I did not have any false empathy when he was breathing or anything I didn't even notice actually he was the one telling us and the thing is with that true empathy where you're just watching everything and you just feel all the love and you're just joining the love that's what you were talking about that you you don't see the eye that is gooey you are the breathing or whatever it is of the form because we just embrace that this knowledge that is beyond everything if we just want to be with that it is fully possible and that's what we're being taught in the course I can go into it I can go into it a little bit deeper because one time in the early years of my travel I was down in Florida and there was a philosopher that came to the Course of Miracles group and he he was his name was Fred and and they just they pretty much chased him out of the course group because he had so many philosophical questions and nobody in the group felt they were at that level to answer him and so we were having lunch and I was inviting everyone to come to my gathering I and Fred was sitting across from me and I said oh Fred why don't you come to my gathering and the whole table groaned and I said what's wrong with Fred why why everyone's so resistant to Fred while he you can't answer his questions because he's there just too deep and all this and this no no that's going to spur us on that's going to help us all he's got some good deep questions it's it's kind of spirit will come through and Fred asked that question to Fred said because I was traveling with it with a woman at the time and Beverly and Fred just said now listen I'm all for this defenseless and turn the other cheek and some of these teachings of Jesus but but the practicality only goes so far he said if you were walking down the street and somebody came up and started to to physically attack Beverly whilst you're walking down the street with her don't tell me that you're going to turn the other cheek or be completely defenseless because that's he said you're not going to do that and everything this and this and I said to Fred I said that's that's an interesting question but it's a hypothetical and he said well yeah it's a hypothetical so for some of you have followed my teachings over the year you start to realize when I go all the way down into the depths of what I call enlightenment you start to realize that that this entire world is a world of hypotheticals and actually we watched a movie last night that really showed a lot of hypotheticals it's called Mr. Nobody of different relationships and not in any particular order like the Wachowski brothers cloud Atlas you know just a hodgepodge of of little snippets and scenarios going on and and the reason when we ask that question about practically speaking if someone you know was harming another you know how can you not intervene you know this whole question of hypotheticals come up because whenever we we look at problems in terms of attack and defense or protectionism and so on and so forth they're really all on the timeline I always tell people no one has a problem right now right now there's never a problem really if we're honest we can start to see that we don't have any problems right now but problems are always remembered or anticipated then you start to read the course and he starts to say things like at no single instant does the body exist at all it is always remembered or anticipated hmm the problems are remembered and it's paid the body is remembered anticipated in fact we start to realize that all of our thoughts of time and all of our questions about practical things in time are all time-based or I have sometimes I in South America I'll talk about quantum physics versus Newtonian Newtonian of course is all linear it's all based on empiricism the scientific method what we learn from deducing from measuring things and collecting data and quantum is saying it's all that's all out the window it's all consciousness and everything that you perceive as a reflection of consciousness so it's your thoughts that you have to work with don't think that you know anything about anything in time it's your thoughts that are making up that hallucination so you know I found that showing that movie last night I felt was very practical I know Jen was telling me she said I'm ready to take another ride because I was giving Holy Spirit commentary on a two-hour 20-minute movie we were probably there for over four hours going through this quantum journey together with the Holy Spirit and pointing out pointing out pointing out things and there's something about the way the movie unfolds it starts to dislodge your mind from concern I mean it starts off the movie starts off with a corpse you know not a typical way start a movie you know and then it goes you know through different drowning sequence and and sequence of the body going through all kinds of things motorcycle accident all kinds of different directions relationships these three little girls sitting on a park bench and he ends up having like in one sense of relationship with each one in a quantum way and and all these life death things and things with the body and things that we would we would categorize maybe put them on a timeline we start to feel like oh this is not linear the problem is not linear and then there's something going on underneath that we have to get in touch with because as long as we are not in touch with what's underneath in our subconscious mind we just keep interpreting things in cause effect relationships in terms of the world including harming a body including those like Fred's question your question the hypothetical questions so I would say that in my own life for people that seem to witness the character David in the parable of David I just became more and more and more defenseless until I tell the parable of David was one point where I was visiting a friend and I was just basically visiting her and meditating her with her most of the day but she didn't tell me that she had been divorced for like two years but she had insanely jealous husband who would go berserk go we're talking like Jack Nicholson red rum red rum you know absolutely berserk if a man even came close to his ex-wife and I would sit in there watch metaphysical movies with her meditate with her and and his eyeballs would come around in the windows you know glossy kind of eyes like saliva coming out of the mouth could have been Jack Nicholson for like but at one point you know in my mind training was the course it got to be so deep that at one point she was back on the couch watching one of my metaphysical movies from movie washers guided alignment I was on the floor watching it with my hand like this and watching the movie and he came blasting in the door just blasting in the door he came right over to me the man the enemy and I was watching the movie and he just is salivating and his eyes were bulging out and he was just in a fit of rage and you know veins and just ready to destroy something and and I was seemingly the man but not really I was in such a state of bliss and I was watching this movie and he grabbed my my sweatshirt he started to pull on it and pull on it and I was still in the same clothes not not a defensive move being made at all as I'm continuing but I am looking up at him probably with a smile on my face as this shirt switches such and then at that point you know I've practiced the course for many years you know if I defend myself I am attacked in my defenselessness my safety lies what did Jesus say about turn the other cheek what did he say about the meek the meek shall inherit the earth he didn't say the strong will inherit the earth he didn't say that the warriors will inherit the earth he said what the meek I was in my perfect meekness actually I mean divine meekness and the shirts getting a little stretched and just then his ex-wife who's like working on Stairmaster and she's like really fit come shooting off the back couch and she hits him like a linebacker in the NFL and drives I couldn't hold on to the shirt it drives this guy across the living room across the kitchen and out the door and the door slams behind and I swear there was some blood flying too I mean this was a hit like not even in the NFL she had adrenaline to the max and I and I still there the shirts a little bit stretched but I'm still in the same haven't even moved because it's my training it's the defenselessness it's really taking that to be literally the truth from Jesus that if if we are defenseless if we don't have any bit of attack or defense in our mind there is nothing more invulnerable than a mind that refuses to judge you know like the Bible says if God is with us who can be against us but we have to really give God a sentence in our mind and so this has worked for me over the years even even taking a walk having a growling dog come charging at you it's just a volunteer I remember I went down like on one knee and my arms went out like to invite the dog and dog almost like hit an invisible wall because there was no defense and when there's no defense there can be no attack they go together and so we have to really apply that and we only learn it experientially by applying it and applying it and and we don't judge how extreme the situations are you know the first principle of of course the miracles is there's no order of difficulty in miracles and then he goes on to say there's no hierarchy illusions you shouldn't tell yourself well these are these are times to be defensive and these are times not to be he's saying no apply this lesson in my defenselessness my safety lies you will never try to win an argument you will never confront your very being will be a maybe a confrontation to the ego but not to the spirit and you can be completely uncompromising in this and unswerving and you can make an unequivocal decision to stay in meekness and everything will shift cancer will disappear from your perception heart disease you know very big already there were Christian scientists who who famously would have like like an entire arm eaten away will say by cancer or something and go into the Christ mind and the whole arm gets regenerated we have sci-fi movies where that happens you know like the one with Jeff Bridges tron where the ISO you know her whole one of her limbs just completely is regenerated we call that science fiction but actually the form is is not where the causation is it's when the mind is invulnerable then the form will just be used as long as it's necessary and we can go so fully into that and then it actually works so for me I tell a lot of parables because I've Jesus told me early on this this course is not a play and ideas this is about going for an experience an actual experience and he said make your invulnerability manifest and I thought well the only way I'm going to do that is be extremely meek and and not have a shred of confrontation in me and that I found is very very effective yeah and actually the continuation of the parable that I was giving of course I mean I didn't live with him anymore after that but what I wanted to say was also that I mean he was calling in the middle of the night once at the monastery and and it was like all of this love just pouring through the spirit just opening up like so fast and it was this oh thank you it was like no words you know it was like that presence just coming through again and everyone recognizes that and we don't even have to be in the same room for that even it's just beyond thank you because I was wondering to be set earlier you're talking about being confronted with a screamer in China and what tools that you develop to handle a situation and pretty much answered in your purple. Thank you very much. If there's another song trickling around this is a song all right I kind of felt like my sister is like my other half and when she was 18 she actually ended up dying in a really random seemingly tragic house fire accident and in the world you know there's just so much like oh this is a tragedy this is tragic and I remember when I it was I was so weird because it's such a telepathic experience that I already knew something and happen but I remember when it was like uttered the words like I don't know how I'm gonna tell you this but your little sister died it was like this moment of being the dreamer in the dream and I was like wait a second this isn't real and I didn't really know what it meant but I was kind of lodged into this mystical experience for a while of just I didn't sleep and I was so happy and I loved everybody and yeah just this remembrance that it's that only the love is real and it's and it's an experience it's something to be experienced and it's really just a falling way of everything that that's in that's blocking that so I had no context really for what happened after she died and then I kind of got lost and then I kind of was like I got to the point where I was like oh my god I'm so lost I'm gonna get on my knees every day and pray to who knows what cuz I'm just so lost and I ended up finding the course and I found David and I was like oh my god somebody out there just is speaking of this experience that I had and so when that that time came through this song came right through and it was it just speaks to that really what we're into is you could say it's like practical spirituality so the more you you tune your mind into the spirit then the first of the spirit comes through songs many many songs for both of them and and things just become involuntary so that's why I say when I show up that's all I'm required to do is just kind of show up and then the spirit gives the words the spirit speaks through it's joyful it's light it's playful it's animated you know the spirit loves us so much and so much does the doer you know songs coming through in a flash like the idea of writing songs that sounds a little more like Mozart used to have concertos come through in a flash just showing us it could be done it wasn't a long process you know he's talking about this his favorite part of the music was this the gaps of silence between the notes well that's going quantum that's going before there was a quantum most are was going quantum we've got great examples of that and really what we have felt that that the spirit is so practical that the spirit will will take you on an into an experience using what you believe in and loosening the limitations of your consciousness so that you have more and more transcendent experiences and it happens seemingly gradually at times just so you can adapt and adjust nothing's ripped away nothing's taken away there can be some times on a spiritual journey like it's more like Dan Milman's book the way of the peaceful warrior which is kind of accelerated for most people they would say that was kind of an accelerated undoing you know motorcycle crashes and extreme you know leg having to be shattered and then kind of rebuilt but actually if we're willing we can give ourselves over to the spirit follow that guidance even if you don't hear the voice you still get your intuitions your feelings you get signs and symbols around you cues and clues and if you start to follow then that helps you feel more harmonious with the spirit more in alignment with purpose and your life just will get lighter and lighter you may have egoic reactions to this where the ego is trying to tell you you failed you're going to be a failure if you continue on you're gonna end up in some kind of failure scenario but the deeper you loosen your mind from these judgments you start to realize that that failure is just a judgment and that even in the course of miracles Jesus says you can't judge your advances from your retreats and that's where we are mighty witnesses to each other where the world would be tempted tempting to say we're failing at something our peace of mind is showing that we are advancing in maturity in our experience of being the Christ being the one like in the matrix so that's one thing that I've enjoyed about traveling and sharing so much is because we come together with our sincerity our questions and our answers and and we do gain in experiences we open our hearts up we have more broad vaster experiences and they really show us there's something beyond the everyday perceptions of the world that we're really not stuck we may claim that we're stuck but we're really not stuck we're just on a pathway of opening and and even though the ego will try to even judge the progress you know we're not really capable of even doing that and when we stop for an instant we realize how how joyful it is so to me I'm very very grateful for these kind of gatherings because we come together with such openness and sincerity and every single time we are blessed every single time we're a little bit lighter we're a little bit looser and ultimately we know that that it's going to there's going to be a conversion a transformation which is going to transcend the ego entirely and it's inevitable you know it's we might as well not fight it because we're being lifted up into that it's right in alignment I believe with what you just were sharing there yesterday I was in my office and I was working with Val and there was all kinds of stuff happening for those that you don't know I am a children's entertainer I work with bubbles I'm the bubble it okay that's just one part but and there's a I think another company coming up and there's what you might be considered in the world is competition and and you know where there wasn't anymore before and I saw my mind have this thought of an oh no it was just an instant of a oh no what if but then I was sharing with Val it's okay because I'll have whatever jumps I'm meant to have whatever anyway because the script is written so we were laughing and going on and all that but today I had a show at a school in in doesn't matter where it was and there was about 130 kids between five years old and ten years old plus the teachers it was a very very joyful experience and everybody joined even the kids with attitude at the beginning we all had such a lot of fun and at the end um a few ten-year-olds came up to me and they were expressing expressing their joy and how they loved it so much and they said you are the greatest bubble lady and nobody could ever take your place I am not kidding that and I got it in that second I laughed and laughed inside myself oh my god I that that was the whole thing and I said I how did it go I go yeah it's a dream and I made that up and it just happened and I saw my mind it was so clear and so perfect and I just had where it's in the past I might have go oh isn't that nice and the ego would be pampered and all of that stuff but it it wasn't that at all it was just a real moment of like you said the loosening the undoing the seeing it all and just getting the pure joy and chuckle out of what was really going on so I just want to share that we're saying your part is essential and no one can take your place no one can can play your part that's actually what I want to say I invite you in to see whatever there is to see so the invitation is here thank you yeah it's beautiful yeah you start to see everything that's in your awareness is a is a message to yourself yeah and you really could you really got that one like oh my gosh this is the answer to my trickle of it now but yeah and I just had a laugh I got so instant it was so quick you know like the next day and I did it and said okay well I'll just keep doing it whatever you want Holy Spirit you show me yeah I'm here to serve yeah yeah well thank you thank you Rebecca that's the invitation to the Holy Spirit too like we all can do that all the time which is just hand it over Michael I mean you do get the answers straight right it is miraculous yes let's hear this is a question I don't know I don't even know what's gonna happen come out it's like you're saying yes I'm surrendering to the Holy Spirit right and uh so the ego's not saying that all right so whoever or whatever probably better description attitude is what whatever saying that is so joining with the Holy Spirit that whatever said that is is melted into so there's no more subject an object it just is the Holy Spirit right and that's the process we're evolving as one this into this so whoever says I'm surrendering God eventually nobody's even doing that yeah