For more videos on people's struggles, please subscribe to our YouTube channel. Hello and welcome to People's Dispatch. Today, October 9th is the anniversary of the assassination of Che Guevara. Che Guevara was in Bolivia where he was killed on 9th of October 1967. On this day, almost 20 publishing houses from Bharati Putakalam in Tamil Nadu, India to express our popular in Brazil, are releasing two texts of Che Guevara, his letter to the tricontinental and socialism and man in Cuba. They will come free as e-books in about 20 languages. As part of the launch of this book, People's Dispatch is very happy to be joined by Professor Helen Yaffe from the University of Glasgow. Helen, welcome to People's Dispatch. Thank you. Thanks for the advice. Well, I thought immediately that we must talk to you because the first book you wrote Helen, which is called Che Guevara, The Economics of the Revolution, is perhaps the most significant book that introduces us to Che Guevara as the institution builder, as the communist who built a revolution and not just the legend of Albert Corda's photograph. So Helen, could you walk us through a little bit of Che, the communist, Che, the institution builder? Yeah, sure.  He had a concept, a certain approach to analyzing the world and his surroundings, which arguably could be formed by his training as a medic. So not seeing the separate parts distinctly, but seeing the sort of metabolism as a whole. And it's very interesting how early Che Guevara was thinking about the process of transition that the revolutionaries would have to go through after they had seized power, well before Batista was defeated. So when Che's column arrived at the Escambre Mountains in 1958, he sent a message to try the PSP, the Socialist Party of Cuba, known as the Communist Party, that he required books about the Cuban economy. He was already thinking about that transition process. And then it's probably better known that when he arrived with his troops, Victoria, Batista had fled, they arrived at La Cavana, military fortress in early January 1959. He immediately set up workshops in La Cavana, convinced the young rebel army soldiers, many of them from very poor peasant backgrounds, many of them illiterate. He convinced some of the necessity of enrolling in education and learning basic literacy in order to be able to learn education for production, political education and education as culture. And he did what he could to convince them that actually, although the revolution was one, the real battle for control of Cuba was just beginning. So Che was involved in all sorts of aspects of the transition process, particularly in the very tumultuous years between 1959 and 1961 before Cuba is declared by Fidel Castro to be building socialism. He was involved in military campaigns, in establishing the intelligence services and in promoting overseas revolution. Some of that is better known about, but he was also involved on the political level with trying to bring together youth organizations in Cuba to create what today is the Union of Young Communists. It was first a rebel youth organization, and he was involved in the talks to forge together the free armed revolutionary organizations that had taken part in the struggle in the 1950s to create one United Party. And that's on the political and military aspect. On the economic aspect, I've already mentioned he was interested in how this transition should take place, and he immediately began to talk about the people who were revolutionaries who knew all about the sugar industry, because of course the whole of Cuban economy and Cuban life, politics, social, socioeconomic situation was dominated by the sugar industry, but also Che was very clear that this was an expression of US imperialism in Cuba. And so he was immediately thinking about how they could tackle this situation. And Che went quite early on. He first of all, he went to 1959. In summer, he went on a what was called a goodwill mission to numerous countries in the, which later became known as the non-aligned country. So he traveled around countries in Egypt and actually Yugoslavia, which was part of that sector, India and elsewhere. And he came back convinced of the importance of building domestic industry with Cuba. And during the trip, one of the people who was with him was a maths professor, Salvador Vilaseca, and he said to Vilaseca during the trip, when we get back, you must teach maths. Vilaseca said, you know, I thought he was joking with the amount of work that would face him and his role in government. But a few days shortly after arriving back in Cuba, he contacted Vilaseca and said, right, I will be waiting for you at seven in the morning for my maths class. And Che ended up proceeding from maths to higher maths and all sorts of complex maths until Vilaseca said, I can teach you no more. And the same situation happened when Che realised the importance of automation and computing and set himself the task of learning cybernetics. He was reading a cybernetics book one week ahead of his peers and he was sitting down and giving them a lesson. So he saw that computing was something that would be very important in the future. So Che came back from that trip and began a job as a minister of industry. The first ever minister of industries in Cuba, a country which was dominated, as I said, by the sugar industry. And Che was almost simultaneously named as the President of the National Bank. So he left his deputy, Orlando Borrego, who was a great person who I interviewed extensively, spoke to extensively for my research. Orlando Borrego was left at the Ministry of Industries while Che was in the National Bank and they were in those key positions when the nationalisations took place and basically the shift from what you could call a free enterprise semi-colonial economy to an economy under a state plan where 85% of industry was in the state plans and the state ends up with a monopoly on financial institutions, banks and so on. So Che was really key in that process of transition. He had a very clear vision of the direction that Cuba needed to go into. He was very clear and remember he had his experience of being in Guatemala during the coup against Chacrobar Benz that it was necessary to dismantle the old state and build a new one. And he also developed, as you know, a critique of the economic management system operated in the Soviet Union at that time, a critique of the Soviet or socialist political economy that prevailed at that time. He was very concerned about the impact of the clamour for opening up more spaces to market mechanisms and to use more tools of capitalism. He had a vision, as I said, a holistic vision of what socialism meant. He said, you know, communism socialism is not just an economic fact. It's not just a question of announcing that workers have been controlled of the factory instead of a private owner. It is a question of a transfer or of real power to the working class, but also a change in consciousness and a change in values and social relations. And as the minister of industries, and this is the focus of my book, which you just held up there, he set himself the task of answering this very tricky question. It's very simple to pass a policy. It's one thing to say we must now have a different consciousness and we are now the owners of production. But what actual mechanisms can you use to change the way that people think, to change their social relations and to make workers actually feel or know that they are in control of production and that they change their concept having worked for years by selling their labour power as a commodity. How do workers then come to a place where work is seen as a social duty and they identify their individual effort with social development. So these were some of the very complex tasks which he set himself. I wanted to find out what did he do because there were some great books already, like Carlos Tavlada's book on the economic and political transformation in Cuba, but there was much less detail about how he actually went about this endeavor. And also, I read the big fat John D. Anderson biography that came out along with many other books on the 30th anniversary of Ché's death in 1997. I had great detail about Ché and his escapades and his adventures as a child and teenager, his travels in Latin America and then subsequently as a guerrilla fighter in Africa and the Bolivia. But when it came to the section about what Ché was doing as a member of the Cuban government for six years, there was almost nothing. I mean, there were comments like, you know, Ché's light was seen on at four in the morning, but I wanted to know what was Ché doing at four in the morning. And I found out I had some really fantastic stories. So one of them, I was interviewing someone who had been a young man and he was in charge of accounts at a enterprise. They tend to buy his produced flower. And at two o'clock in the morning, he had a knock at the door and he was told that Ché would like to see him. There was obviously an issue for some of the accounts he submitted. It wanted to see him in his office at four in the morning. He got there at four in the morning and he found Ché standing there, leaning on the corner of a metal cabinet which he'd pulled out. And he said to Ché, Comandante, but why are you standing in this uncomfortable position? I remember it was four in the morning and Ché said to him, because if I don't make myself uncomfortable, I'll fall asleep. And I have these reports to read before the council, the management council meeting at seven in the morning. So yeah, it was incredible to see the multifaceted elements of this man and also to hear the very sort of rich human stories of the people, the men and women who worked very closely with Ché, the sorts of unsung heroes of the revolution. And I feel that in a way my book turned out to be as much their history as it was Ché's. No question, Helen, that it's a story of a lot of people, not only Ché, but Ché leading them. I mean, you're right that John Lee Anderson and others emphasize parts of Ché, which is the legendary Ché. In fact, even the motorcycle diaries is a misnamed book because the motorcycle collapsed in Chile and it didn't actually go by motorcycle up to Colombia and then eventually he flies to the United States, which is fascinating stuff. But the motorcycle was only the first leg from Rosario out to across the end. You know, they finally get, it's hardly defines every, but Ché is the legend. There's something that you raise, which Ché struggles with, which very briefly, if you could talk a little bit, you indicated it just now. This is the question of incentives. One of the things that a socialist society is often attacked for is the question of incentive. And Ché, I found in your book and reading Ché himself, he was very sensitive about how to move from material incentives, as you say, selling your labor power and then earning a wage and then trying to earn a better wage, et cetera, et cetera, material incentive, how to change to moral incentive or to a socialist incentive. So could you talk a little bit about Ché's experiments with different forms of incentives for a society? So yeah, I mean, this is a key question because a lot of people, including on the left, have totally mischaracterized Ché's promotion of the new man and woman or Ché's promotion of voluntary labor, as if it was just a sort of mechanism for getting people out to work harder. In fact, it was very much integral to his analysis or his appreciation for Marx's analysis of the commodification of labor. So how do you undermine the commodification of labor? Well, people have to be in a situation where they give their labor willingly as part of the social product, which they are the collective owners of. So is it that the combination between consciousness and social relations? The voluntary labor thing is interesting because it starts with a sort of national campaign over the sugar harvest. And that is a result of very rapid changes that are implemented. So pre-revolution, you have something like 400,000 Cubans paid very low wages hardest work imaginable under the searing Caribbean sun working with Ché's in the sugarcane harvest. And the harvest lasts for about four months of the year. And then after that is known as a time for the dead season because literally people were left with very little alternative means of living. So what happens is the revolution guarantees people jobs. It puts them in education. It builds them homes. And so it takes away the things that force them into these what's called slave-like conditions. And in fact, you know, slavery was traditionally in Cuba operated by sorry, the sugar plantations were traditionally operated by slavery until later the 19th century. So when they do that, there's an exodus away from the sugar plantations and they have a labor scarcity. So voluntary labor becomes a national mechanism for getting people to the field at the time of the harvest and the harvest became. I mean, incidentally, they did find that sometimes it wasn't so helpful because people with no training or experience could cut the cane in an in a counterproductive way and so on. But actually it was a man called Orlando Borrego who was one of the people I again repeatedly interviewed who was the first person to implement the idea he it is said in his own in the enterprise which he administered. And that was an initiative. He came up with the workers themselves and Jay went and visited. I should say that every week all of the members of the management board of the ministry of industries had to go and visit a factory or a workshop or another productive entity and do carry out what they call the factory visit and write a full report. And this was then very much a way of keeping in touch with workers, keeping their hand on the pulse of the workers and talking to them face to face in every corner of Cuba. And Jay saw the work that this guy Amhel Arcos was doing and said this is a great idea. Why don't we try to expand it? So voluntary labor took off through the ministry of industries and construction and in workplaces and so on. And they developed, you know, the administrators were given quite a bit of freedom to develop in different incentives. So they might have sort of newsletter with worker of the week and so on like looking for non-material incentives. And they also might have, you know, to discourage indiscipline absentee of the week where they would say this person misdrive shifts but they wouldn't say the name and everyone would gather around and work out, see if they could work out. It was and no one wanted to be that person. So, you know, people stepped up and so on. And they had awards within the ministry for, you know, best improvements and best output and so on. So they experimented a lot and Jay was not dogmatic. There's a lot of material. I was fortunate enough to get access to the internal transcript of their management meetings, their five monthly meetings of the industry where all the directors and administrators were. And that was some 400 people and it was Jay very much free talking with them. You see Jay in every different sort of expression of himself. So there's this Jay sort of writing and complaining and you know, why is it always up to me? Why do I have to solve these problems?  So, you know, and everything in between and just discussions. And I had access to that material and you can see that, you know, Jay said, you've got a good idea. Let's try it. If it doesn't work, we'll get rid of it. We'll try something else. And even with his budgetary finance system, which was this unique system of economic management, which Jay developed within the budget, within the Ministry of Industries, even in the, you know, his article on the budgetary finance system, he says, let's try it. Let's try something new. Let's try to carry out the construction of socialism, the transition to socialism with a different form that fits Cuba. Let's see if we can solve some of the problems that we criticize in the Soviet Union. Let's see if we can do it with more worker engagement, with a change in consciousness, you know, parallel to the change in productivity. And they experimented.  So, yeah, I mean, there were some fascinating procedures and ideas developed. You see, Helen, I have to say that generally when you have a legendary figure like Che Guevara, and, you know, who doubts the great legend of Che, when you go behind the legend, one is disappointed. One of the things that you have produced is, you know, your book actually enhances for people like me the legend of Che, because we see Che here grappling with the genuine contradictions of building a socialist society.  And on the other side, inspirational for your comrades, because isn't that what building a new society is about, being despondent and inspirational really at the same time. It's not enough to just be inspirational.  I want to end here for us with a question I want to ask you, Helen. We are thinking of making October 9th, the day of the assassination of Che Guevara, the International Day to Abolish the CIA. And I wanted your reaction to this new idea of the International Day to Abolish the CIA. Well, I mean, you've picked this day because of the CIA, while Felix Rodriguez, who was a Cuban, who had participated in the Bay of Pigs invasion and subsequently was an operative for the CIA, for his role in executing Che. But quite frankly, given the history of the CIA, it's just in Latin America, I think you could probably pick any one of 365 days, because really, when you teach on Latin America, the CIA's role, and I'm saying that in America, but globally, what is shocking, I think, is that actually, after a certain amount of time, the documents are made available. And yet, you know, there is really no accountability, there was really no change in behavior. So by all means, you know, anything that highlights the CIA's role, I think that, you know, let's not forget that the role played by the British in their colonies and elsewhere. So I think, you know, every capitalist states have institutions and structures which are there to protect their interests. And clearly, the CIA represents the most powerful capitalist country. But I think we could all look at our own states. Well, thank you so much for joining us at People's Dispatch. This is, you know, been a very enlightening and important conversation. We're going to, of course, give the link to the free downloadable text, Two Essays by Che Guevara. This is all, of course, part of the International Week of Anti-Imperialist Actions. And really happy to talk to you Helen. We'll have to come back and talk about your new book. Thanks for joining us.


Well, welcome to the session on Building Sustainable Community-Based Adaptation and the topic or experience that we would like to share with you. Let me check. Everyone hear me well? If you can raise your thumb up or any signal that I can see, that would be great. So in the case that you have any problem in terms of listening to a speaker, you can raise your hands. So the session that we try to discuss in the next 90 minutes, which is about the experience how to bring in the community forest-free to contribute to community-based adaptation. So I'm sure many of you have heard about community forest-free or some of you or only a few of you have heard about the approach on the community forest-free. But I'm sure many of you or I would say most of you understand the concept of community-based adaptation. So well, be aware when you talk about community forest-free that refer to the initiative that increase the role of local people in governing and managing forest resources, regardless in terms of the tenure arrangement. So when the local people are managing the forest for their own benefit, so that we call as the community forest-free. And well, I just want to share with you about one-third of the forest globally managed by community and a number of thousand local communities organize their own forest for their own benefit. Because we see these are the real incentive for them to take care of the forest for the global agenda. When you talk about the CBA or community-based adaptation, I assume that many of you recognize that we need to strengthen and enhance the listening of the local communities because they are the one who get affected by the climate change impact. And also they are vulnerable. So meaning that we have to get them engaged in any plan or interventions. And we talked about the expanding the social network, how to help scaling up the intervention to adapt to climate change, and also connecting to other institutions. I'm not talking about the government institution, but how can we strengthen their local institution to prepare and ready to respond to the climate change. And we have to ensure the sustainability of the community-based adaptation in our working areas, meaning that they need to be proactive, not just only responding spontaneously to the climate change impact. Let's give you some kind of snapshot when you talk about community forestry that can contribute to community-based adaptation. We're talking about the capacity development, having clear rise in tenures, because many of the community forests, they issue their land certificate, and that becomes clear tenure arrangement. Improved the effect of people participation and improved the governance, having a regulatory support in terms of the policy and legal instrument, and also responding to local interest. When I say local interest, that not always refer to communities, but also other stakeholders involved in particular landscape or particular areas. And then we apply their adaptive management. So just to give you some kind of snapshot when we try to make the connection between community forest and the CBA. And today we have opportunities to share with all of you the experience one from Bangladesh and the second one from Thailand and the third one from Nepal. So without further ado, I would like to call the first speaker to talk about community-based adaptation through a nature-based solution in climate vulnerable areas, the experience from Bangladesh. It will be presented by Kasi from Friendship NGO. Kasi? Yes. Can you see my presentation? Let me stop my screen sharing. Can you see now? Yes, sir. We can. Okay. This is from Friendship Bangladesh, founded by Runa Khan. We are implementing our programs, integrated approach since 2002, mostly in climate impacted areas. And we are now presenting Friendship and Grove Afrositation Program in South-East Bangladesh, which is community-based adaptation through a nature-based solution in climate vulnerable communities. You know Bangladesh is highly vulnerable to cyclone, storms, erosion, and this is locked by Himalayan North and Bay of Bengal in South. Our program is intentionally to adjust with the poverty and propulsion density and support people to be able to adapt with the situation due to climate change. And we are really invested our efforts for enhanced institutional capacity, at the same term raised environmental awareness. The project is very close to Sundarbongan, largest mangrove forest in the world. And as we already aware, the mangrove forest is stored carbon in large quantities to break wave strength, is act as a barrier against embankment erosion and soil salarination, is protect human life crops and buildings on the coast, and also is great alternative opportunity for livelihood like shrimp, crab, fish, food, fruits, honey. And just for a quick understanding the historical perspective, historical challenges, you know, because of lack of community engagement in plantation and management, the initiative actually in previous league was faced huge disruption. And there are some of plantation actually because of the low density is effective, very low. And as community is not really involved, that's why you know the growing plantation is really difficult. So you see the course destroy new plans. And very recently, Sikronam font reminded us our embankment and housing are not protected. Effective initiative of mangrove afforestation truly needed. And see our project friendship participative approach. The people you see around, they are engaged in plantation in nursery, they are very much from local community for the same community. And we engage them, we train them how to take care of plantation. And how to take part in nursery. And in the below, you see that we created plant zone with the fencing, maintain select local community care tickets we engaged. And at least five different mangrove species we planted to ensure biodiversity and resources. This is in the beginning, we form community group to make them understand why it's important and we build their capacity how to take part in plantation and nursery. And at the same time, we draw the social mapping and getting community to identify the areas to need awareness at the same time to make sure the protection. By monthly meeting taking place in community to keep them updated what's happening and what the challenge remains. And at the same time, we also ensure their alternate livelihood. You see the district agriculture officer conducting training for the alternate livelihood. And in the right-hand top, actually we have meeting, periodic meeting, quarterly meeting with the local government to make sure they are updated and they inform in the below local administrator opening new plantation. The lessons you learn, this is interesting. The new resources provided by planted mangrove forest yet to quantify but promising. One example, I know the cattle goers they are now difficult to get entry in the grazing land. So people can have some grass from the plantation area is abundant so they can take for their cattle. And funding limits the magnitude of plantation. But there is a learning. Nurseries can provide more saplings, replication is possible. The friendship has the largest non-government level of nursery in the country. We need to find ways for new funding, combination of adaptation by and for communities and mitigation at a global level. As you all aware, mangrove stores carbon four times more than tropical forest. So we need new stakeholders to be involved. And this is the actually way forward to take this initiative forward. Our conclusion, institutionalization of the climate adaptation mitigation as a catalyst friendship engage local communities, department of forest, and local government to be part of the whole approach. So that they take ownership and they are part of the growing trees and take care trees beyond the project time. So the government are very much enlightened, very much happy because this is aligned with their national plan of action. This is our at a glance the plantation area. There are many like this. The area actually a bit close to the Sundarbans. So that this is very much aligned with the biodiversity and ecosystem. That's all from my side, the presentation. Thank you so much. Okay, very good. Thanks a lot, Cassie and very concise. And I think I'm sure we can elaborate more in the small group. I think the purpose of having this kind of a case study sharing is just to kick off the discussion, okay? I request to visit www.friendship.ngo to know more. Perfect. Thanks a lot, Danyabat. Okay, so then the next one, the next case will be from Norton of Thailand. And then I will do the share screen. Matt, are you ready to go? Please, I'm ready. Okay, please. But I'm sorry, we still have a new presentation, okay? And then you can cancel it for, thank you. Okay. Yeah, so just go short, short, short sentence and then Guy can help you to translate. Okay. Okay, so well, I am a presenter, Kun Egg. And I want to share with you the experience that we have on the land and natural resource management for climate-based adaptation. This is Nampang model. So just give the general context within the area. We have three ethnic groups working together. We have been settled in the area for more than 100 years now with legal and not legal support. We form a network of 10 villages all together. And then from the photo, you can see that the condition of the area is the mountainous area, covering the areas approximately about 44,500 hectares. And then you can see the map on the left-hand side. You see the map of Thailand and the top corner in the red areas that is the area we are talking about. So this is a diagram showing the, the former land use or the land use in the past. People depend very much on the forested area, but anyhow, well, about 68% covered by monoculture, which is maize. And about 14% covered by upland rice cultivation. And then 7% covered by the paddy field. And the rest covered by the rubber plantation and also some fruit orchard. So that consists of the 3,000 hectares of farmland. So with the land use that we apply in the past, it stimulates the impact of the climate change, especially when we got the landslide in the area, very serious drought, such as flood, a long period of dry season. That become, that we got severe impact from these climate evidence. After they have some kind of discussion and talk among their village representatives, they try to understand the issues and concern and also their ways how to move forward. They identify key fundamental solution that they have to address, how to make the local institution stronger and how to make effective people participation in any management plan or any intervention to fight with the climate change. And also they need support from development agency, including government, civil society, and also other development agency in the area. 01. So in order to make it more… materialized. The Nampang model consists of three kind of a try, let's say like tri-parties. One from the local, one from the development agency, and one from the government. If you look at the diagram here, this is the local government that represents the sub-district administrative office. And then we have to work with the civil society or the local NGO, which is the Northern Farmer Federation, with some support from the, sorry, the Northern Farmer Federation is here, and also the Northern Development Foundation, which is linked with the Hak Muang Na network in the area. Well, I think the success that we have got so far, we have a number of community-based enterprise groups happen in the area. When we talk about community-based enterprise group here, that relate to natural resource management. And then we have fun to initiate more community-based enterprise because they are local people, they don't have a big investment or capital, meaning they're in store into their community-based enterprise development fund to provide some kind of micro-credit or loans for those who would want to initiate the community-based enterprise. Then we have fun to manage our forest and natural resource in the area. So that helps us to maintain the activities under the Nampang model. So the results from Nampang model, it happened that we have clear and strong land-use database. Well, without having the land-use database, it's going to be difficult to manage the landscape scale. Then we have clear forest demarcation and boundary because in the area we have two national parks, and it happened several times in the past that we had conflict with the national park. So it set up some kind of clear boundary demarcation. At the same time changing from monoculture, then we have more kind of a permanent mixed land-use. And then we can return the public land or public forest into the community forest at 1600 hectares back for the public use. And also we promote the, rather than using or applying monoculture, we have mixed crop applying the concept and practice on the agroforestry which is more than 42 hectares already happened in the area with both economic crops and also permanent trees. We also have the scheme for the community water resource management that provides regulatory support on the water and also the good quality of watershed. From the experience that we have in the past few years, we learned that we have to have a clear land-use planning and we have to have a clear tenure arrangement. Otherwise it would be difficult for us to see what we can do and what we cannot do and then it will create a lot of conflict within the area. The second one, we need to improve the effectiveness of people participation in any of the natural resource management intervention. So the core management needs to be more practices by getting local people involved in any decision making. We cannot just wait until the climate change comes in but we have to prepare and then we have to do active planning for the climate change adaptation. So meaning that the local institution must be strong and be mobilized and effective in terms of readiness for the climate change impact. They cannot do that without support from government agencies and also the private sector, so how the private can help them improve their capacities and link with their market opportunities. So these are the key conclusions that they learn, well the local people learn from the Nampang model. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Egg. Thanks a lot for you, Egg, for this experience. Sorry to take time because we have to use double languages. So I mentioned that in the case that any party span who would want to learn more, you can write on the chat box and then our colleagues who are sitting next to Khun Egg will help in terms of translation for the question and answer. So next one, we're going to share the experience that we have in Nepal, which is about trees and bee. Look, you will manage the screen, right? And Ramaji will be presenting from the south of Nepal. Ramaji? Ramaji? Ramaji? Rama? Rama? Hi, Mr. Ron. Sorry, I can't see her on the participants list. Maybe she had issue with the connection. Okay, all right. Yeah, I don't see. Look or Shambhu? Can I ask you to take that role? Shambhu? Sorry, Ron, I'm calling Rama. Okay, so otherwise look can present. Okay. Okay, look. Sorry for the technical issue because Rama is sitting in the countryside. We somehow have low connectivity. Look. So I share on Herbia. Yes. Okay, welcome everyone. So we are sharing this case like we call trees and bees. It is from southern part of Nepal and then where like we applied this community-based adaptation in one of the community forests called Bishnupur Community Forest User Group. So to give you a brief background, it is located on southern part of Nepal, like you can see by this red part. So it is located in province two and then Orion municipality. And then another thing I would like to highlight is this area is located on foothill of geologically fragile Turei Rains. It is the area like which receives like this eluvial which is covered with eluvial and then so which also press this drought and then the area has tropical climate and then it is not so far from international boundary to India. So this case is from Bishnupur Community Forest User Group, which is also a woman-led Community Forest User Group. And then talking about the community, there are 65 households and out of them 26% are poor. And then talking about livelihood of people there, then most of them practice agriculture and then so the significant portion of their livelihood come from agricultural related things like for example this paddy, sugarcane and so on. And then there are like many climate change related issue and then among them most like significant or like that effect most of the local communities are floors and drought means it isn't like drought like desert but it is like during dry period they don't have enough water not only for irrigation but also domestic condoms and talking about this community best time adaptation design then so we implemented the CVA through community forestry process and under leadership of Community Forestry User Group. So when we mentioned about leadership of Community Forest User Group it was led by Executive Committee of Community Forestry User Group which is completely comprised of women's and then we conducted this polar climate challenge, this polar ability assessment following Community Forestry process which is very participatory and then we followed same for adaptation planning and then implemented some so and then as in till by community forestry process then we work with local government and other sectoral government agencies for example forest offices they've got our office G612 condition office and so on and as also like stipulated by community forestry rules and regulation then so there were like targeted targeted program to support livelihood of poor that is where this program got the name trees and bees means to plant trees both in forest and their farmland or practice agroforestry and then have like bee farming to support in their livelihood so there were multiple lessons coming from this exercise and then first one is similar to those came from other cases so this strong institution is a must for community based adaptation and community forestry user group provides that strong institution because it is formally registered group in the district forest office which is called now division forest office and so it has formally status so it is it remains there for forever and then so it has this inclusive leadership so for this case it was completely uh led by woman but in other community first user group also there should be at least 50 percent position should be occupied by woman so similarly like community forest like provides like the resource not only from forest but also like from many different sources right from community and then from other stakeholders to plan and implement this adaptation interventions and similarly because of like huge size this community forestry network facilitated replication and outscaling so I would like to highlight that in Nepal there are more than 30,000 of like community forestry groups there are like many different model of community forestry so there are like so all together there are more than 30,000 so it provides that them using network to replicate this model or to scale out this community based adaptation the second lesson is community forestry through the community based adaptation through community forestry empowers women so as highlighted in as I highlighted that so this was led by woman so and then but I'd like to highlight that it is not only women who work on this it is just they provide leadership so but they work with all other people means other women men and then other marginalized group such as poor and other ethnic minorities so they work with all of them together and then so their engagement in this initiative not only give them confidence but it says to other network so this year their experience that in the beginning it was difficult so in lack of their confidence and then all their stakeholder were also like a hesitating but when they participated in this process and then demonstrated that they can successfully lead this kind of initiative then other partners like started so they are expressed their interest to work with them together and then they also inspired women from neighboring communities and then from other districts as well similarly a third lesson is that the monitoring and evaluation mechanism of community forest are useful also for community based adaptation so as many of you know that community forestry have like kind of different this oversight mechanism so the executive committee of community forestry group they have regular meeting and then for day-to-day operation so they have also like responsibility to make sure things go as planned so they track they keep track of implementation similarly the apex body in community forestry user group is like general assembly so every year the all the member of community forestry user groups sit together and then they reflect they are like progress like less on and then they it's their plan to move further and similarly because they have this formal status and then they receive support from other government and then other agencies so they have strong oversight from other agencies including Divisional Forest Office so there is like check and balance system and in Edison they have to do like this auditing and then submit report to other government agencies and then their supporters so yeah this is all from Vishnupur thank you all okay great thanks a lot look well we are a little bit over the time yeah so I think probably if we can just take one or two question if anyone has but from the chat box I could not see question yet but more on the complementary and as I said earlier I have to say apology for Amaji because she is sitting in the rural setting and then the internet become an issue especially when we get heavy rain our colleague from Nepal just write me an email and chat that she got the heavy rain and then the internet connection become limited okay I cannot see any question yet but you still have for the person you still have opportunities to discuss and probably bring in your own experience so as I said earlier we just need to bring these three case studies just to get off the the discussion and I'm sure you can have more interaction even some question and answer later on okay without any question we have one question from Dawn I see in the chat box a question something like how is the beneficiary scheme in that community okay okay anyone like to respond I can share in a minute from friendship side we truly help community to understand this man group trees if they grows properly they take care and they will find alternate livelihood opportunities I mean like crab, fish, beekeeping these things and some leaves are very much useful for them for roof and for different purposes there are some fruits and they are quite aware of those benefits and they consider Shundarbhan the man group forest is their mother I mean so they resource of everything so that made them convinced to be part of the whole thing in Bangladesh the tree man group tree cutting is forbidden until and unless proper permission so that keeping the trees as it is they find alternate opportunities this is the things they end up most importantly they find man group plantation forest is a safeguard from cyclone and some other things some strong weight that's why we are in progress okay well sorry for those who join this session if you are not in turn to speak may you kindly mute your microphone and then you will not distract the speaker thanks a lot Kasi I see two questions but I have to manage Tom quickly there are two question one from one about Thailand which is about changing the monoculture to mixed agriculture somehow it's quite challenge probably it can tell us a little bit more and the second one how do the community share profit from forest related project I think part of it Kasi already cover a lesson we're in government policy for policy influence okay this is about yeah how to integrate this kind of a local level experience into the policy level uh and also I see Shambu raised the hand uh Shambu you would want to cover some part of it but you have to do very quick Shambu Ji okay so I just would like to say about the benefit sharing mechanism that is happening in Nepal that by laws we have a forest act that says that okay now the 50 percent of the you know total of the benefit generated from the community has to be spent for the you know livelihood improvement of the poor women and disadvantage group that is one and another one is rest of the money 25 percent should go for the forest development and then 25 percent should go for the infrastructure development within the community there is no sharing of benefit to the government that is overall from the community forest product but the you can see the you know some of the picture of the beekeeping you know be you know be hives so so we have identified you know we have they have prioritized the people who should be benefited because most of the people from the poor family are prioritized to get those benefits and they are getting the you know this type of the hives in the subsidized uh no no fully subsidized uh rate for this beekeeping with the training and then not only beekeeping they are getting a lot of other support like for example vegetable gardening and then right cultivation and all these type of things thank you okay okay dania but uh should i said in 10 second that is one line that is the okay 10 second standalone forest project is truly difficult so that friendship integrate the program project with some other programs health education economic opportunities different other projects by friendship implementing the same area and connecting those benefits with the forest project so that people are you know they are getting their different benefits from different angles this is another way of keeping people you know convinced with that project all right thanks a lot for your 10 second all right i think i see number of question okay let's see how can we manage these questions but i would like to continue with the small group uh which uh somehow we i would note that down and then i try to come back to actually mandate the question that you put in the chat box again lope would you like to go for the breakout group i just want to remind you that you may have less minutes in the breakout group lope yes yeah so dear all you just hard experience and experiences and listen on community based representation from the grounds like mr ron just shared that the next part of the session is breakout group discussion we have noticed from the information you saw me data when registering that all of you have very strong knowledge and experiences in cba in that regard the objective of this breakout group discussion is to learn how cba can go further drawing from the lessons from the cases and your experiences for that we'll have three groups as some on this frame first this is institutionalization and financing second general inclusion and third monitoring evaluation and learning as you have guessed correctly the groups will discuss in depth focusing on those topics in about a minute each of you will be randomly sent to one of those breakout groups there will be a facilitator in each of those groups kaji in group one myself in group two and anjo nine in group three the discussion there will be for less than 30 minutes because we already use some of our time and the facilitator in your group will guide you through the process thereafter we will meet again in the plenary where session facilitators will share key points discussed in their breakout groups i hope all of you will actively participate in the discussion in your breakout groups thank you i know that tom is very short especially in a topic that many of us are interested here definitely i apologize for this one finish run right sorry i underestimated tom even though we expand from 60 minutes to 90 minutes but anyhow thanks a lot for all the contribution i observe in the smoke group discussion you have more interaction okay so do we get group one back kasi you got back and then look you got back i haven't seen the oh junei you got back yes yes okay and anyone from group two you got back anyone from group two they all of the room are close now so everyone should be back in the plenary okay thanks we are back beyond yes okay perfect okay well we are not we are running out of time and i would suggest that we ask each group to share with us so group one anyone from group one would want to share with us one can we can share if you allow yeah please do please do okay we have a very vibrant presentation sharing all the brilliant people and in the very beginning they recommended this napal experience that the they feel the induce need to be allowed allowed in the policy by policies and advocacy needed for other countries napal is already exist to allow induce to be part of community forest officially with role clarification number two recommendation came that is the benefit sharing and support in development exists there but they recommend decentralization of decision-making and action needed to promote community forest and three the the community engaging women with leadership role important as we know in most south asia region the men are away from the community for the livelihood part so women role is very important and they are have extraordinary qualities to take care of community forest number four actually important registered as a group organization with government needed to have financial support and assistance there are many spontaneous group at community level cbo the working but they didn't register themselves with the government so it's important five the product is really gaining from the forest harvesting selling market can be one source six national institution prefer to use community group that a channel can be explored there are many national institution they have community level intervention they prefer community group someone okay yeah i just mean okay then seven forest official can support for seedling training and other subsidy for enterprise development that can be part of government act and i mean now many areas even in Bangladesh and many other countries we are having the support from forest official but recommendation came that should be part of the government act and with the audit and other procedures need to be defined and ensured eight forest and community can find some mutually benefiting projects to ensure the finance forest meaning department of forest nine you know try to understanding is the Bangladesh experience from friendship that is engagement of local government community and forest department is really important and 10 one other important point that is awareness generation simultaneously mostly for women needed 11 provision needed to handle our potential forest areas to the community with certain conditions so that they feel ownership i mean the the recommendation actually the certain area is really potential for a frustration or a position need to hand over to the community with the feeling of ownership so that they can involve this in themselves with their rights last but not least that is introduced new technology will learn from West Bengal India that is Kolkata to protect river embankment the uh with along with the man group plantation these ideas came from the group they these are 12 points right that is wonderful okay we come back if anyone like to add more uh comment sure sure okay group two group two anyone would want to share with us group two group two on gender group two so yeah i'd like to share hello yes please you hear me right so yeah i'd like to share my uh screen so give me uh yes right so can you see my screen yes please yes yeah yeah so our group had very interesting discussion on two questions first was about the lessons from the cases that are applicable to the participants context in empowering vulnerable groups and including women right so you can see on the screen that like key points from our discussion that omens are women are interested in participating in the groups and then so yeah that would help them to like bring gender parity and then indicated approach with provide also access to health in terms of women to participate in cba and policy intervention for example that from Nepal is important for a gender inclusion and then next is like women's literacy in uh conserving man groups such as that so because that resource is important to them that's why they're participating conservation of man group and then so the benefit sharing like inclusive benefit sharing again case from Nepal so it is important for gender inclusion so that motivates or encourages women women to participate in community based adaptation so talking about challenges and then suggestions to every address them so yeah so the for example from the case of Bangladesh then most men go to city for work and then omens are left so that is the left like so there is like gap in gender and then so yeah the challenging gender inclusions and then similarly there are like uh right and tender issues which exclude landless people uh and then there is like high poverty and that also add on the challenge and then there like so sometimes there is like inadequate knowledge on gender roles and responsibility and similarly like climate change have differential impact to different group of people so to address those issues so we need to take integrated approach and there so before we design this community based adaptation so we need to have deep knowledge of the context so that what we design or like the approach we take yeah is suitable for that particular context and then when we're engaging with them so we for like gender inclusion so we so working with women only is not enough so we need to engage with families and then beyond them and similarly not just in projects so yeah we have to engage beyond the project as well and then to address issues of for example like landlays and others so means we need to educate a whole spectrum of society not just them and then so our while designing interventional approach so we need to assess differential impact consulting with the groups that are impacted and then finding the best option that support them yeah uh this is all from our group thank you uh wonderful okay i will ask for additional comment later on uh i think better to hear from group three yes yes i will say yes okay can you see can you see my screen yes yes okay so yes our group also we have a very good discussion and also we have a very limited time so that's why uh some participants uh we have uh they are you know funding you know the points so they like to share so in terms of the you know listening so what they have learned from the three cases so share with our friend so good from all three cases community participation and ownership so this is really very good for the community adaptation and also the community have a net capacity and also where and power in managing natural resources so this is also a good learning point for them and also in nipol case so the local community uh dam sign you know stranding you know that block they are lively so this is also good because they don't need to migrate to the other area for their lively so at the last point so someone shared the beneficiary screen so this is a very clear because one participant so he is working with indigenous people so he can practice this beneficiary screen for his contents so and also the time model nampang model so this is a good for one participant because here we can see uh well cooperation and coordination not only with the communities but also the government so this is a you know the good institutional strengthening approach and also the inclusive cooperation so this is also good learning point and also in the case of nipol a woman community groups so they did a great job and also good cooperation with government and diploma organization as well so in thailand case so they deployed the land use database so this is also very useful for monitoring and evaluation and also learning what they need to do in future so in the case of nipol uh they create you know job opportunities you know in their area by using their local resources so this is a you know very uh uh good for the you know the community so these are you know the learning point from our college so okay uh for for for challenges and you know the suggestion so one participant shared that so in quality you know baseline data and also climate related vulnerability assessment gender related vulnerability assessment so in this case so the development organization uh has a you know some issue you know to get the time dedication from the local community so this is you know the challenges for the monitoring and evaluation and also another you know uh college you know share so one cba community based adaptation approach is just only useful for the one specific community so rather than other you know the community so that's why you know the c subject uh later i want to share and also there are you know misunderstanding uh upon uh policy so due to limited asset information because the the local community has limited asset the information from the uh government policy level side so that's why there are some gap between policy and implementation level so this is also one challenge that's related to the MLE and also in the case of Philippines so the local community practice community based monitoring and information sharing mechanism so in this case sometime the local community cannot find a solution how to integrate the community practice perspective community data onto the government platform so this is also you know the one challenges so in terms of such suggestion so nature of a solution should be practice so so to to cover you know all community all junei okay and also you know yes please go ahead okay sorry because internet go ahead okay so uh because of the you know uh the the policy information gap between community and government policy community themselves should try to have a policy information actively not passively and also ngocs or government side should let that community know any update policy and instruction monitoring and evaluation and learning approach should be based on the local contest so rather than you know uh uh copy from the other you know the country or other area and also in the case of bnm so every year and we are roundtable discussion has been organized through inviting the mati stehua including the local community so in this roundtable discussion the local community can share their issues their problem and also they can discuss with the government center so this is also you know the good solution and also the community communicating with the local government should be considered from the government side the community perspective and data and also they should organize a chain basic a man community and also the between government and community as well so to share the information uh each other and also another solution point is uh community knowledge are always you know the neglect in the policy and uh legal framework development so that's why one participant suggested so in the government education and curriculum so community knowledge should be you know acknowledged or recognized so these are you know the suggestion to improve monetary evaluation and so thank you thanks again and all for this summarizing the group now we are little bit running out of time so I will take this moment to summarize summarize the uh session that what we discussed in the last 90 minutes that basically this session was designed based on the learning from the past cba piloting projects that most of the projects where there were the serious issues that uh that how cbs were not able to incorporate the meaningful participation of the vulnerable groups and continuation of the adaptation initiatives after the termination of the experimental supports so this was the main idea of the uh this session so I'm Rajaswari I'm a senior program officer of RECOF that I will summarize this session that the major two questions we raised for this uh session was that how community forest can resolve the challenges to institutionalize and financing cba and how community forest can offer leadership opportunity for women and marginalized groups in the cba so we mainly presented three cases from Bangladesh, Nepal and Thailand which were suggested that how community-based organizations particularly community forest user group can help to strengthen and implementation of cba this is because community forest and climate rakes are co-located must be co-located and the implementation of cba through community forest would provide a strong foundation to secure the finance since it can link adaptation initiatives with local development plan and also the community forest they have their own resources itself to manage the forest so the first case was about the community-based mangood plantations from Bangladesh which highlights how participation of local community would be helpful in plantation management which can contribute to reduce the rakes from natural disasters including storms and cyclones however it is also important to support them for alternative livelihoods livelihoods options to reduce their reliance on the forest resources therefore the cba can in cba initiatives can be more effective with establishing collaboration with local government and the forest offices so this can help to manage stream community-based adaptation measures into the local development plan the second case was from Thailand about the land and natural resource management for adaptation introducing the non-fam model the model is really interesting that because it has developed the tri-party institutions that include the community civil society and the government organizations so these institutions they interact closely with each other and develop the plan so based on that the the institution was successful to establish the number of community-based enterprises which are depend on the natural resources and establishment of the community-based community-based enterprises so in addition also that when we are talking about the establishment of the community-based enterprises then they require the funds so this model is also in help is also successful to establish the community-based enterprises funds as well as the natural resource management funds so they have also provide the some information and have the good initiatives that because this community-based adaptation they did not only implement in the small community level it was in the landscape level so they have prepared the land use database and also the forest demarcation and also community forest development which was promoting the agroforestry and conserving the water resources so so lesson from this non-fam model is that if we have a clear land use planning and tenureize with a strong community-based institutions and have the support from government and private sectors then local community can really fight against climate change and the third case was from Nepal which was about the trees and bees program which is led by women-led Bistukur community forest user groups and this community forest is located in the foothills of the fragile to the regions so in this area floods and water scarcity are the major issues and what the community forest user group did is that they did the adaptation they prepare the adaptation plan following the climate vulnerability assessment with community forest process and the main activities was to rehabilitate the degraded area by planting native species but they leave this native plantation with the beekeeping so from the beekeeping that people can earn the money and also they can rehabilitate the degraded area from the plantations and what we learned from this is that since the community forest user group is the legally recognized group it helped to collaborate with the local municipality and government agencies to receive the support and as well as to upskill the program so and also that this also provides an opportunity to improve common leadership in the community based adaptation and the regular institutional process of the community forest including the general assembly community meeting and the party secretary monitoring and evaluation help to improve the community based interventions so from these cases that we can see that community forest with a strong regulatory support can be an appropriate local institution to implement the community based adaptation from this approach community based adaptation can get benefits since community forest user groups have well-established norms and intensive experience in the forest management they have also the very good group mobilizations with the benefit sharing mechanisms leadership development liability implement and the equitable benefit sharing so implementing community based adaptation through community forest can help to diversify the climate rule of forest beyond the mitigation and also it is also interesting to see that this approach can integrate the community based adaptation with the ecosystem based adaptation so but for this that we need to have a clear land use planning and the new rights with a strong engagement of other stakeholders including the government and civil society which we see in the two cases that we need this try party at arrangements that can really help to sustain the community forest community based adaptation and this approach really helped to many stream community based adaptation into the local development plans so with this remarks I I would like to thank all participants and the presenters for your active participation we would like to also thank IIED friendship and the and also I would like to thank leticia and para for their technical supports we hope that you enjoyed from this session and have enough take home messages to improve the community based adaptation in the future thank you have a good day


all righty let's whoa hold on that was me yeah I don't know it still has kind of the same it's been a while since I've seen this and you know even a two or three week break it's still in this is definitely getting better but there's also moments where you could potentially bring in the legs to give it a bit more of an elegant feel to it this once you get into this this still feels like he just got shot bloods coming out and he falls down hate to linger on this but it just seems very out of control and not you know not as elegant as it could be it still has that that feel I think the timing though so you're saying here I track the arc of the hip and change the camera position camera's fine there's something a bit fast in your in your spacing when it goes down here you can look at the spacing here how we're kind of almost flat here lingering on this space and then suddenly it pops down and it feels like it's a pop that's this is your whole visual shape and it's almost the same shape going down it's not like you're that body up here kind of stays the same with the shoulders but it's the head rotates down first and then it takes the neck with it in the upper chest and then the body would still be up here with the legs and so on it just it's just not it still has that stiff feeling again I apologize for harping on this and just being so so picky but as this being the first shot it just doesn't have that deliberate smooth acrobatic feel and just given the overall timing I'm looking at this from a mostly realistic point of view it's not you know it's not super cartoon I just watched that new a spider-man trailer it's just a totally different style so I'm not gonna you know like if that's your beginning that's a fairly realistic pose and that's why I'm looking at it in terms of okay well that's your beginning and you're getting into this I'm looking at okay that's that's kind of the style we're gonna be consistent style-wise but even within that you can make it more more elegant and push the poses more into something acrobatic and deliberate this just feels a bit too out of control still I line the feet to swing in the right direction let's see here yeah that's better but it comes in here that's all cool and I still like that feeling of that is swing through here that's cool but a couple things here still right through here that's the moment where he really really swings forward no I can fall like full translation but like that rotation coming from up here but because of that this is where I would stretch out and bring the legs together at that point they were really this is the full-on stretchy point and in here you can start to relax so they're couple things a right through there I will bring those legs legs together it's just a bit more elegant looking at his trajectory seems like it going you know going this way but he still kind of pointed this way I can't draw looking at you know that line of the body here pointing this way but still goes this way so really really need to align that towards that and it's especially visible through here so at this point to me it seems like it's going this way but then we have the legs going this way instead of really going this way but in the body still point it this way as opposed to everything rotated over and straight going towards that direction so it's a little watch out for that part this feels better in terms of directions I wonder if we change something through here there's a weird hiccup right through there ish as you go forward there's a little bit of a weird spacing right through there feels like it just kind of goes forward just a bit too much but then here accelerates a lot and your arc just flattens like it seems to go as opposed to having a bit of a wider arc it's subtle and it's right at the cut but there's something right towards the end where it feels like it's just being pulled down arc wise and spacing wise and then something wobbly in this in this leg to going a bit left and right much out it feels like it's pointed this way but then the foot is rotated tilted over this way as opposed to this way and even through here you could cheat even though it's like this and you would be pointed this way body toward this way you know the legs are slightly out I think just for contrast maximum contrast you can bring those legs a bit more together there might be some knee hip spacing in the left but the legs here at the bottom would definitely be closer together so that when you bring them out here you'll have maximum contrast right now it has that feel still of there's space here and then there's space here and you know this a bit more here it just feels a bit too like there's not much going on in terms of post changes and you could potentially also keep that one leg up a bit higher and just to kind of push that posing a bit this light arc in the in the body and then you can always you know bring one higher one a bit lower just a bit might be exaggerating but then you end up being besides the forearm it's pretty twinned let's see so you're saying you animated the knees and he compressed also his feet and again I hate to be so super picky but they're couple things still as you push down here to me it feels like as this goes down you know there's more mass going in so the knees need to go out so yes there's an overall feel of upwards rotation which to me you would mean that the feet go actually out this way you have a rotation in right through there I would actually go out this way and then ease in a bit more over to two frames or so it's a bit sharp right now how the feet go in and to mean they should go the other way and this guy still has that I feel like that changed a bit it got harsher like as this arm comes down it's cool but once you hit this point here of that arm it just kind of stays put and especially that wrist this feels like it has changed where that wrist doesn't change rotation at all so you have you know the arm could still be lower but if a change in the wrist not that bent but it's just an impact that I think you have more last time and that feels like it turned into an IK arm even more over after this that wrist just doesn't change now we'll probably take that pinky me move over just a bit more it's a nicer hand pose than before but it feels a bit too complicated visually I think you can simplify that does that bit more I think that should be fine here so short and looking that isn't in the cut I think it's fine I'll be super picky you can see here how that wrist stays locked and the rest of the elbow starts to the arm straightens there's movement in the elbow but it doesn't affect the rotation of the wrist at all I know this is at the very end but that's why you're paying me so I can point things out it's gonna be very careful about IK arms just gives it that locked feel whereas this one feels definitely better and you might argue you could have a little bit more rotation of the wrist over this way right now it feels like that wrist and the arm just kind of one piece you can have a slight change a little bit rotation over this way so we see more the top of the hand just so we have a nicer silhouette with the thumb and the hands there gives it a little bit of a change again super picky but that's why you are sending this I pushed a band of poses and changed his timing and worked on Spidey's jump same with Spidey that's cool and I wonder at this point you can bring him in a bit more and then they can go back out and do what you have that's good you have a full extension then they come in and then you almost feel like well they would still have to come in a bit again it will make for greater contrast but then there's a bit of a sticky feel like you going up pretty fast and after that you hit this upper line here and it kind of sticks in the air it's in real time let's go back here so overall much better definitely more dynamic but again you can bring you know one arm is maybe more bent one is a bit straighter just for less twinning this gets a bit too similar you can potentially even push this one a bit more and this one a bit lower and further in just kind of pushing the posing just a little bit more but there's something in the timing where it feels like you're going up and then it's kind of it's kind of the feel it kind of flattens out and starts to stick towards the end and super picky that edge of that arm is right where the knee is and that arm and it's here and here as well forming it some unfortunate tangents even through there this is weird feel I know this is especially frame by frame but there's just something about this where you could you know and you can easily cheat venom and bring it a bit further back so that the head is maybe here and then you can bring that wrist a bit over here I don't think you'd really need to overlap this much definitely makes it more dangerous because then the wrist ends up where I where Spidey was oh I guess what you could do maybe you bring that wrist just over you might as well overlap more and then that part of the fingers there we'll leave that move that over and then move that elbow over you can try that it's either this way or this way venom still feels way too fast the couple things here you're bringing it up pretty fast and then you look at the nose here kind of stops and then goes up and then here the reversal is too fast over one frame where this would have momentum up and then he has to kind of go about it goes up so that change of direction is way too quick for something this big especially this massive mass here so you can see how your chest goes up and down over one frame making this really really light and then you have the spacing of your hands starts to actually it feels like it slows down this in real time feels very it's very soft I don't mind this I don't mind the compression but you can potentially do more with the fingers a bit a bit straighter and then the next frame like this where there's more tension in them but that's cool like I like that rotation over but you want to show that a little bit also in the compression the fingers so it's not just the block that rotates over but I would give this more time which it's fine for him to go up and then you have a bigger up and down that's okay but this is too fast and then at the end this spacing you know you could almost go from here then the hand is here and the next one is already here so you really want a they got pieces of stone breaking that just feels a bit soft same with the other hand there's something where it just feels fast and then slow and easy so you want to take frames out of that ending and put that in here to me it feels like you want to get this right where the weight is really working in the sense of scale and everything and once that is done then I would attack spider-man to see well now that I have more time or less than whatever it is now I'm gonna show that this looks really you know good enough that we buy the time it is no hang time through there I do like that he jumps this way because it kind of shows that he's going towards the creature and wants to attack it that's fine but you can easily go you know I might end up here which might be potentially more appealing as well you can push down and so it's just not going up it's full on yeah I'm invading this and I'm really attacking you that's something you could push potentially all right that's it thank you all right there's an email you can sign up you can start whenever you want you can submit whatever you want you get 16 submissions either way a like and subscribe would be awesome all right thank you


Hi everyone, Joe for jasmine's case breaks calm coming at you with 2019 2020 panini a macula basketball Random team break number two. This is first off the line edition FOTL first off the line edition So those are the exclusives that you can find out of that first off the line This is actually break number two not number one right there. This is break number two one. We did yesterday big Thanks all of these folks for getting into the action If you bought your spots, I think Eric gets last spot mojo star next to his name If you bought spots straight up, I appreciate that and if you won spots, thanks for giving those Those pack breaks a shot. All teams are in. Let's do it. Let's roll it. Let's randomize it two and a one three times for each list for names and teams one two and Three after three times we got Robert down to David two and a one three times for the teams one Two and three after three times. We got the pelicans on top down to the calves I don't know what happened in the box that Jason did yesterday, but good luck Robert Wolfe These don't really come in like cases They're all loose boxes. So you never know Robert pelicans Danny with the bulls con with the Pistons Townsend with the heat Chris with the T wools Jimmy with the nuggets Nick Casberg with the Suns Chris with the bucks Eric s with the whiz Kelly with okc Chris with the Rockets David with the Celtics Kelly you got my Lakers Michael with the Raptors Christopher with the Warriors Robert with the Spurs Michael with the Magic David with the Hornets Eric with the Nets Chris with the Sixers Eric with the Grizz nice Ron with the Hawks Chris with the Mavs Robert with the Clippers Eric Last spot mojo with the Kings Jimmy with the Jazz Townsend with the Trailblazers Lonnie with the Pacers Matthew Shearer with the Knicks and David calendar with the Cleveland Cavalier a little alliteration there Let's get all this on one screen and let's sort by column B And let's center those up now trade at your own risk while you're considering trades Let's consider which box we're gonna do so here are both of the first off the line boxes right there You can see the sticker on the bottom left We're gonna select a die. We're gonna select that one and We'll go one two three for the top box four five six for the bottom box And it's gonna be four one two three four five six So this we will save for the next break random team number three, which is already in the store And there's a couple filler packs that we have to do to knock this out But I've got a feeling we'll get this done tonight. There it is FOTL first off the line RT number three That'll be RT number two All right, we're gonna pause the video when we come back We're gonna see if there's any trades and then we'll have the break stick around All right, well Mac No deals were done a little bit of trade chatter But in the end no deals are done in one box random team to 2019 2020 panini macula basketball FOTL first off the line edition If you're not familiar with first off the line This is what I think panini sells these directly from their website a little bit usually earlier than when the Obviously first off the line right a little bit earlier when before the actual hobby release And usually they load these up with some some exclusive just not it's a nice preview It's a nice way to chase exclusive parallels Pretty exciting. Good luck, and we have another that final one box break is in the store right now To ask these case breaks comm check it out got a blank card right here. We'll use this to hide the hits a little bit we have 25 out of 25 Ricky Rubio for the Suns and Nicholas Casper I do Victor. Absolutely I'll definitely break tonight. All right, and the next one is D'Angelo Russell standout rally 23 out of 49 Timberwolves Christian art. There you go. G-harp exactly. I got Ty Jerome nice three out of six The R of his name name plate nobility That's another Phoenix son going to Nicholas Casper and we've got triple J Jaren Jackson jr.  That's for Eric and the Grizz This is why you get into this stuff folks We'll put an extra filler card in there before it gets shipped out so it doesn't rattle around but Protect it right away. There.  There's the back right there a little copy on the back nice Eric Very nice. Congrats to you and the final one here is wow a one out of five De'Aaron Fox a fox in the box two-color patch on-card autograph Sacramento Kings different Eric Eric K With that one So congrats to both Eric's Eric K all aboard the big hit Express Out of fives and under get the train whistle. What a box. We got another one in the store folks This is first off the line. This is the first offline doesn't mess around check it out on Jasper's case breaks calm I'm Joe. I'll see you next time for the next one