My name is David Nizavacha. I'm the president and CEO of the San Antonio Housing Authority. And the first thing I want to say is thank you for taking time out of your busy lives.  Talked about a project that we've been discussing for a couple years now. So I just want to say on behalf of my board, and I think I believe Commissioner Clack is here. He's in the back of the room. I want to acknowledge one of my bosses. On behalf of my board, myself and about the 500 employees that work at San Antonio Housing Authority, again, I want to say thank you and gracias for coming. We have an agenda that we go through, but I just want to give a couple of remarks before we get into the agenda. The first thing I want to say is that as a Housing Authority, we're very pleased and happy to be working with the community to have a new development come to the near west side. A community that has not had investment by the Housing Authority generations, by many other people in generations as well. A development that we'll get into specifics later that will bring the new first affordable housing and public housing practice community in 80 years. So we're very proud of that. I think we recognize the cultural history of the community and we're very sensitive to that and we want to honor that. But at the same time, we want to make sure that the way we honor the past is to go ahead and ensure that the people who live here currently have a better future. To some of us, what that means is to honor amenities in the building, such as potentially washer and dryers, air conditioning, as connectivity, because we all know everybody has one of these devices now. A lot of people don't have laptops or they don't have desktops and we can provide connectivity. Everything's going towards that world. So I just want you to know that we're very appreciative of the outcome in regards to the number of people here tonight. We're here to listen, we're here to engage, we're here to have a conversation. And again, I'm just very appreciative of you taking the time to be here. What I want to do is, I don't know if someone's got this presentation, but I think we're going to invite Adrian Lopez up next. To identify some of the SAHA staff that's in the room, Adrian Lopez is our director of community development initiatives. A lot of you know Adrian, he's a group that works with family, self-sufficiency, jobs, classes, actually. We're talking about sticks and bricks tonight, but one apartment is flesh and blood. It's people that we're going to be talking about and impacting their lives in a positive way. Adrian's department works in that regard. We also have Lorraine Robles that's here somewhere. She's in the back of the room. She's our director of development services, the neighborhood revitalization. She's in charge of the group that's been working on this project. I think I saw on the back Tim Alcott is here as well. He's the gentleman in the glasses. He's in charge of our legal team and also mostly our development team as well. And then we've got Michael on the back and many other SAHA employees. David Kosso-Bernie, and if I miss you, I apologize. We want to bring Adrian up to talk a little bit about this afternoon and then we'll get into the majority of the agenda. So we'll take questions when it's appropriate in regards to the presentation. We'll go from there. So thank you again. Thank you, David. Good evening, everybody. Happy to be here. I just want to take a real quick moment to recognize the residents. So those of you who are residents from Al-Assad raise up your hand. And thank you specifically for coming here. Earlier today we had a leadership training. We have up to 25 resident councils throughout our communities that represent nearly half of our public housing units. So these are folks that we bring on a quarterly basis to provide some training because they're the representatives of each of their communities. One of the things that we're very proud of and the work that we do is that not only do we provide housing, but we provide a lot of programs to actually help people spring forward to the next level. Last year, actually, David was mentioning our Family Self-Sufficiency Program. Last year we had just a little over, or almost 30 graduates who graduated from FSS. In fact, Xadra, you can raise your hand. Xadra is a case manager here. And last year we awarded, not only did they graduate from FSS, but we awarded back a little less than $200,000. This is money that these people earn that spent the time with us here that they're using to buy a car, to go buy a home, to move on to the next level. So we do our job, obviously, as case managers and as staff at the community development initiatives. But our job only takes it so far. If it wasn't for our residents and our resident leadership that take on the positions to take on programs and the outreach and the engagement, then we wouldn't have that success. There's many, many more examples of success that we have throughout the housing authority through residents. If it's one thing that I learned from this particular agency, having worked with the city of San Antonio for almost 10 years, having worked for county government, having worked for a council government, and for nonprofits, is that the thing, the best thing that Taha has taught me is that the work that we do is we always do it through the lens of residents, right? And what's in the best interest for our residents. So having said that, one of the things that I wanted to talk a little bit about today, given the amount of folks that we actually have here today, we want to hear everybody's input. We want to make sure that we hear what your support is, your concerns, or those types of things. But given the size of the group, I was asked to see if we can sort of limit the amount of time that people speak. So we want to be respectful of everybody's particular time, but we certainly don't want to be here to all the way to make that right, given the size of the group. So the reason I believe a sign-in sheet, if you signed in to speak, you would have upwards of two to three minutes, just like we have at, I believe, our city council meetings, as well as at our SAHA board meetings to speak, right? So you have the opportunity, so we want to be respectful again of everybody's time. So the other kind of rules, and the reason I'm sort of going to hand this off to Janet, is again, this is about resident empowerment. This is about sort of putting our residents up in the center, and some of the things that we cover, for example, in the resident training that we were providing earlier, is talk about things like, how do we respect each other? How do we sort of engage each other without sort of having a bad discourse and positive dialogue? So Janet is going to talk a little bit about the rules. Thank you so much for being a part of the resident council, and I want to welcome you guys to my home. I do want to go over some housekeeping rules. I want a piece to be considered. When someone else is speaking, be considerate in giving the chance for other people to speak. Don't speak over them. Just be respectful. And we all could agree to disagree. And I want to thank you for being here today, and I want to welcome you humbly to our home, and... Now, let's hear from Janet. This is out of courage, because I think when Janet first came to us, she told me, I don't like public speaking. I don't like being in public speaking.   So again, I appreciate your comments. So I think Lorraine, are you next? Okay. Good evening. I'm Lorraine Morales. Welcome back. We've got a lot of great, exciting things. We have been finding the revitalization of Alessane in this neighborhood for over two years. And I wanted to let you know that Southline NRP submitted the 9% tax credit application, the full application, in March. In fact, March 1st. So you remember all the work that we did towards getting this all together, and again, this is our second year in applying. We were unsuccessful in getting the tax credit awards last year. So we tried again this year. The Alessane residents, community partners, elected officials, Sahab, and our team, we all came together and made it because in Austin, at the Texas Department of Housing and Community Initiatives, our application, our tax credit application, was in danger of being terminated, which would have meant that we wouldn't have missed out on the funding. And so a group of the residents here committed to going with us to Austin for the day and went up to speak in support of the project. And I'm happy to tell you that on July 25th of this year, we were awarded our tax credit. Letting you know that it was a good project. It was good and a lot of time coming. It was with much work from our partners and our residents and our staff and all of everyone in the community. Being able to help support us and put this application together and bring the project forward. Let's go over a little bit of what we've done and where we're headed. So again, just to refresh your memory, fiscal year 2016, we went after a choice neighborhood planning grant, but we did not receive it. In 2017, we went after our choice neighborhood implementation grant. Again, we did not receive funding for that. But we said, as you heard our CEO speak earlier, that we were committed to revitalization of this particular neighborhood. So regardless, with or without choice, we were moving forward. So much so, it's not how committed $1.2 million in foreign property near us on ports for this particular project. Committed. Didn't matter whether we got the choice grant or not. 2019 now, we submitted our application. On May 23rd, as I mentioned, we had our meeting at TACA to defend the project, the Alizont locks development. On July 16th, we went to zoning. Right now, those properties that we purchased are zoned MF33. What does that mean? That means that under city code, we can build up to four stories and have 33 apartments per acre. What we did was ask that instead of MF33, that we're applying for IDC, a change, IDC 3. The only difference in this zoning is that IDC 3 helps us relax the parking apartment. In a moment, when Jason comes up, he's going to show you the site. He's going to show you the five locks that are involved in this particular neighborhood for this development. You're going to see it's a little difficult to construct and maneuver, but we found a way to do it. Again, I mentioned, on July 16th, when we went to zoning, we were successful. Again, the city was in support. The zoning commission was in support of the project. Again, because it's already zoned for that. All we're doing is relaxing the parking. On July 25th, we got our award of tax credits. The important part now is August 22nd. August 22nd, now that we've got approval from zoning, we now have to go to city council to get final approval from the city council to change that zoning. We're asking you to come out of the support of the project and support of the zoning's request. If all goes well, which we were praying that it does, then we will start construction in the summer of 2020. As soon as the city council meeting is over, we're going to resume. We're going to review our meetings for design. When we met last, we told you we committed, our architects committed to going back and looking at different designs and doing more research about the neighborhood to bringing some options that you felt were more representative of this community. So we are committed to doing that. We start construction in 2020, summer of 2020, and we should be completed by December of 2020. Again, this is just the first step in the revitalization of Al-Assad. We wanted to make sure that we built off-site first. That was something that we heard in our planning sessions over the last two and a half years. That we wanted to make sure that the residents of Al-Assad had a place to go within the community so that they so desired to stay within the community. So again, this is just the first phase of a multi-phase redevelopment project. Now I'm going to call Jason up and he's going to go over that specific project he tells me. Good evening, everybody. My name is Jason. It's a pleasure to see you out here this evening. I would like to go over a little bit about the development itself and then as soon as we're done with the development and some representative examples, I'm sure a lot of you all have some questions that you'd like to get to and then Lorraine and I can get there as well as... I just wanted to let you know that besides Mr. Al-Qaad, some of the other people that Mr. Nsibachi had mentioned, we also have our architects here this evening, Maneuvinios Architects. There's some specific questions that you all have. We can also address that too. Going to the proposed development, we're proposing on... We'll get to the site plan in a minute. 88 mixed income multi-family units of a mix of one, two, and three bedroom units. 80 affordable units, half of which are public housing units. I know that has been a primary concern of various people in the neighborhood when we're talking about potential displacement. We want to make sure that at least half of the units are reserved for those who are currently living in the courts to be able to move over without any change whatsoever and be able to move from the courts to the Alice on Lops. And that's, by the way, Alice on Lops is something that we are working on. We're looking for input further in that name as well. So there's also eight market rate units, and the total development will cost approximately 18 million. So that's a strong investment from the state, and that's what we had been seeking over the past couple of years, as Lorraine had said. Next slide, please. So we had originally submitted option A. That's a little bit different from what had been submitted. There was not as many as the landscaping buffer. We had added some landscaping buffers to that. A top lot of the community center, and building A would be a four-story building with building B being a three-story building, both on opposite sides of South Colorado Street. And the north side would be reserved for parking with the upper left corner to an additional amenity for the neighborhood. We had discussed at one time it being a community garden, but we don't. Again, we want to get more input from everybody in the neighborhood before you fully decide on what that's going to be. So that is the option that was submitted to the state with a few changes after the zoning commission. However, we've been meeting with the neighborhood, including the historic west side and Espadanza Peace and Justice Center, and they have asked us to make, if we could, some other changes that we are still next like this, that we are still trying to vet out. And we think we're going to be able to do this, but we are meeting with the city. We have a commitment to do this, provided that the city will allow us to do so. And that is taking the four-story building and tearing it down to three-story as it goes into the neighborhood, and then moving these two buildings right here, putting a building up here, and then moving this three-story building down to a two-story. So it's still the same amount of units. And it would just have, we would be tearing it down to a three-four-story building, a three-slash-four-story building as it's tiered, and then two-story buildings as they approach the courts and the rest of the neighborhoods. And then you can see where it's delineated, the three-story is glued out, and then the community center would be beneath that. I also want to mention with the community center, Adrian had mentioned that he had mentioned some of the services that will be provided. We'll also provide wraparound services for the residents. That's going to include our Homework First program, which is a great place for kids and no additional charge to the residents would be able to go after school and essentially participate in our programs there where we encourage homework, making friends, a lot of those other, a lot of other services as well, such as health and wellness screenings, potential food pantry programs, helping a whole host of services. And we also do that over the summer as well. In fact, just this past month, I was at the Capitol with a lot of our children from our communities where we went up and held a legislative session for, it was trying to pass a bill for all year school and I don't think it passed. But anyway, so that is something that we are also providing along with that. This one has 100 parking spaces, so 88 units with 100 parking spaces. Can you go to the next slide? Just for an idea of scale, we wanted to see, when they say the four-story building, three-story, we wanted to come up with an idea of scale of what was around there, there was approximately three stories. The linear is two stories, but it's a height equivalent of three stories, as well as a bodily weight equivalent of three stories. We just wanted to kind of give a scale of what's in around the neighborhood. Next slide. Additionally, some of the amenities we offer, this is at Senn One, down on Sasamwata Street. So we, the community center and then a business center that will also be existing in Allison. Next slide. Again, additional photos of the interior amenities. Next. More interior design examples. Again, we could amend this with input from the neighborhood. These are just examples of what we're thinking about sort of leaning towards for what the interior is going to look like. Next. Just final interior design examples. Please go. We also want to commission for public art in the area. We have set aside for public art. We do want to do that as well. This is some examples that we have previously done with previous and some of our other communities. Yep. Going. And so those were, again, no, that's fine, you can keep going. So besides the public art, those are some other things that we want to keep doing. Again, the site plan is still in flux. We're still trying to work with the city. We're still trying to take input. We've had other meetings with the community trying to scale it down a little bit as it moves into it. I guess the primary goal is to provide at the end of the day new housing options for certainly the residents and other residents who want to move in and at the same time provide it a high quality affordable housing. And at that point, at this point, I'll turn it over, I don't know, if you want to come up here to address questions or when you ask architects. At this time, I think we can open up to either questions or public comments. What's the next? I am a current Alizan resident. I am also single mother of five children. And I also am a current new home of a Section 8 voucher. And in applying at the San Juan squares, doing my research and also losing two months of applying process, I was finally denied and I had to make a couple of phone calls. I gave up a week later. I called again to find out exactly why. And so this comes from my concern about... And I'm going to ask all the right questions before I have a further concern. But, you know, the 88 units that will be placed, my question would be, is there... I can't remember at the top of my head how long it will pass. So is there current units sitting here now? Okay, awesome. So the current we have up to 502 units more than 100 and 1,500 people living in the units today. And so none of the current residents will be taken out of their homes in order to develop. Okay, and then so my next concern would be, do I qualify with a current... with a current criteria that denied me at the San Juan squares, would that be put into place into the units that are going to be the Alizan lots? No, it would be a... because we have the public housing units so it would be a different criteria. But again, without knowing specifically what reasons there were for, you know... It was my background criteria so I apologize to... No, no, go ahead. I did actually pick up a charge in the Casianos about eight years ago and after seven years I'd be able to qualify and so I have this awesome opportunity. I'm working with the FSS program so I also have goals in five years to be able to own a home or even get into the Alizan lots. I think even once I lose my public housing situation or my second encounter that I still am able to hold up the rent that is going to be affordable, right? And then again in five years to own my own home but I also want to do that here in the west side. And what does the zoning look like meeting the homeowner in five years from now? Against a single mother of five I have to put five kids in college that I'm working on now and I've qualified for so many other things in the past eight years I have not been denied anything, you know and me and my kids had our heart to set out in the someone's work but the criteria alone in my background that I qualified for housing but not to get into the someone's where it did a little harm in regards to our experience and looking for something better that I've been working for really hard and so yeah my question is that is it set in stone the criteria of who's able to move in in regards to background checks? The answer is it's not set in stone each property is different and then we certainly be able to address that I'd be happy to look into that in fact I can talk to you as soon as but yes the partner with SAHA and ALISON especially with the public housing units is going to have a different criteria I have one more question I apologize I also do I don't think it I also do start to participate in homeowners association meetings and will we currently be able to have maybe represent SAHA in our piece in regards to this final decision of making maybe moves just to someone to even if it's an observer somebody who's going to report back just in regards to all the plans that have already been in place that I see the plans that of here described by you in regards to plans that have been there for longer than the two years of all the going to Austin and you know when will those start being considered in regards to maybe even the multi-planning for this area so this is we get our zoning approved we resume our design meet so we can start on the ALISON logs and that will trigger a whole host of meetings and so we'll start we'll continue our planning now that we know that we have the funding and zoning in place and that we do get the first phase off the ground and everyone's welcome we made sure that we signed up and sent emails to everyone who's ever attended any of our meetings all the way back to 2016 so everyone is welcome I was thinking more like 2006 community members that's been attending meetings like this and so in regards to planning I'm thinking like way back in 2016 and also the job guys utilize a volunteer in regards to a resident to attend these meetings you know to have on the board again a volunteer just to be making sure that there is a resident and take into consideration that you guys speak for more than thousands of families that they've been absolutely and what she's saying is would she have the opportunity to volunteer or come to these meetings to represent the residents and our answer to you is everyone's welcome we already have residents that have been involved and have been included and we invite you to continue participating as well everyone's welcome you're welcome so I have to be there for the official time to be here so I'm just going to rewind thank you so much for your efforts to get word out about this meeting to the community I think we can see a lot of people came tonight and really appreciate it my name is Sarah Gould I'm director of the New Zealand West Side a forthcoming community museum located very close to here the corner of Colorado and one loop history located in the historic Woodlands Ice House some of you might remember going to Woodlands Ice House when it was open so we're still in our planning phases and I don't like you and I do have a question about let me ask all three of my questions and then you can answer so my first question is about how how will this development do you think impact the businesses and the residents around the world and how can we work together to have a great experience as neighbors so that's question one question two is about the illustrations here still not so far they've all been burned five views and I'm just wondering if we may be quick to explain now in the August 22nd we can look at the community some street level views because how do you imagine what that looks like walking by or walking to JT Broad so if you could get us some kind of street level illustrations of the proposal they'll be showing the adjacent existing buildings I think will be very helpful and then finally I'm hoping you can offer a little more detail on the 80 affordable units so you've set that 40 or public housing but if you could explain the qualifications for the other 40 units and also is there an expiration date how long they will be public housing how long they will be affordable units so first question how will it impact the neighborhood and the residents living in the neighborhood the businesses, the small businesses it's only going to help support residents in this community as well as the small businesses this particular development will bring over some of the old Alabama residents into the community that's important I need to make sure that we have quality affordable housing in this community in order for our families to have a place to go our kids who grow up and go on and move out if there's nothing for them to come back to then that's a problem and we want them to come back we need to support this community we need to support the small businesses all of our partners and cultural centers so it will only get better second question we'll get the elevations out right now they're just black and white they're very conceptual the reason why we left them black and white is because there's going to be a lot of input from the neighborhood on whether it's deciding whatever the case may be we've been discussing with the architect we were hesitant to show anything because if we show something it's not necessarily what it's going to be and so we can get you the black and white that we had submitted and that will give you an idea especially we just created new ones because of the 4-3 split that we were talking about and those were created as of today and yesterday so we can get those additional into the community at large perhaps with the same type of what we had done third question so the third question was the different income standards basically like how the affordable works the affordable units so those are going to be reserved as traditional public housing and I believe Warren can speak to that like those particular criteria as well the remaining 40 are still also affordable those are reserved for those who make 60% of area median income and come in below and by below we also have different years beneath the 60% there's those who make 60% area median income 50% 30% of area median income and you ask what's that mean the area median income in San Antonio of this past year is 71,000 so 60% would roughly be about 45,000 for a family of four it's tiered down to one person it would be it would go down to around the 20% and the 50% would be lowered and the 30% would be lower than that so it does so that's only half the affordable units the other half are public housing and then the other half have creating tiers up to that level and so that's essentially how and we can actually show that to the neighborhood too and how that's broken out but an answer to your question that's oh and that's your final question so in perpetuity we have extended affordability so for at least 30 years but Masaha being the owner that would be in perpetuity so we have Susanna Segura and I live right down the street behind Tafoya I don't live in the public housing projects but I work with a lot of community members that live there and my concern is that they may be displaced I don't want to lose my neighbors I don't want to see Tafoya have to shut down because there aren't enough students there I don't want to have to see any of them I don't want to see any students there I don't want to have to see a black and orange elementary shutdown because there aren't any students there I want to make sure that people know that there are options available to them and what y'all call opportunities which are the sectionate vouchers are not necessarily something that is going to keep them in the neighborhood because there really isn't a lot of sectionate housing so just so that people do know that I'm wondering what you're going to do when you're done building the Amazon box what is your plan for the older buildings are you going to retrofit them are you going to demolish them what are you going to do about that so with regard to your concern regarding displacement as we mentioned in previous planning sessions there's always been our intent to do everything in basis so that we aren't having to relocate a mass of individuals all at once because we understand there's not enough housing in the neighborhood but the other thing is please keep in mind bear in mind that some families do not want to live in the Amazon neighborhood they are in the public housing they're in only because that's what came up and that's what was available and they needed a place to live so please understand that as well we want to provide our residents a housing choice same choice we all have to live wherever we feel comfortable or our support system is whether it's formal or informal but it's important that our residents have that same opportunity that we give them everybody else your next concern with regard to schools so the 501 units that you see in the round are going to come back as mixed income and will increase the density which will also increase the number of students so not only will we have the students that are currently here but will also bring new students to the neighborhood which will also support our schools and that's important as well Angie Garcia my name is Angie Garcia and I'm the senior advisor for Lurac so yes and of course I'm a real excited about reading those books and of course you participate and this is it we need for you to come to all these meetings we will we will see what happens here I think what you need to tell us more or less what is the price the rate and I think that's what's going to bother all of us I don't live here but I know that's something kind of what's the rate going to be and of course according to the time that you have that I think most of when you're going to because this is about these five people are nearly less so I think that's the subject that we need to understand how you're going to do it and that's a problem and thank you very much for doing this because it's needed and of course housing is doing a good job and Mr. Alcott thank you thank you very much I want to put you at ease please understand that of the 88 units only eight units are marketed that means they're unrestricted rents and unrestricted income but of the 80 units they're restricted so we have to make sure that they're kept affordable now if the individual comes in from public housing or section 84 it's the same deal that they had before it's all based on their income it's not based on this brand new beautiful unit that may be at market rate might be going for over a thousand or three hundred doesn't matter they have the same quality unit as a market rate resident but they pay what they're 30% whatever their income allows it's the same rate there's no difference Jenna Garcia I just want to say that I'm very into part of this project because it's very unique that it's for my children, for my neighbors the people that I spoke in the 600 plus conversations that I've had I don't know if you are aware I'm also a resident here I live off of South Star Madness right behind the picnic and my human specifically doesn't have outlets for a dryer that's probably for me and I know for most of my residents not only that there's a lot of issues and Saha attends them in a timely manner does the best that they can because it's not just my human they're attending to all of our units and that's not to even get started we have special ACs we just don't need it some ACs from Mr Hartman and we're very grateful but now it's something that changes to happen and we need it and sad to say that we're facing these problems today in the 21st century and these buildings are very old back in 1940 and they need to be I need to be able to just because I'm a low income person I want to be able to provide a good home a safe home and be a part of other programs and opportunities so I can give my children a better education and not just giving them a little bit of what Saha can provide me and if the opportunity is here I'm definitely going to take it and I'm just very grateful for you guys doing this and I'm glad to be here for this planning so I'm happy to tell you that every single unit of the 88 will have washer and dryers in the year not just connections they will have washer and dryers which is huge for a single parent just taking care of kids a grandparent who lives there with their grandkids and needs to keep those kids in school every day so uniforms are expensive and so it's important to keep those clean hello I have at least two questions so number one I know that you've said that 44 people are affordable housing they're public housing is that correct? 40? ok thank you so when those residents move out what will happen to I know you all have discussed this but I've got to clear it in my mind what will happen to the other residents there's 501 families so that's question number one and the question number two I just wanted to go over these numbers to see if this is correct but if we could go over question number one question number one what will the rest of the families go? again this is only the first phase recently you heard in the newspaper that Sahaa is doing a lot of development deals because of the great need for affordable housing and so we have other developments that are still within the website that we can also relocate individuals to so that they can stay in the west side of that as their preference and again we'll be doing it in phases so that we have enough housing to do it so whether they go through public housing or they go on a section in voucher there's opportunity for them to stay in the neighborhood so that will occur in 2020 2020 2020 is when we begin the construction okay and then when the property is completed at that point is an opportunity for us to move some of the old dollars or some of the Amazon residents living in the old units over to the new units in 2021 December and then I mean figure it out talking about all 500 no ma'am little at a time so the Amazon apartments right now as they are still exist yes until we've got enough buildings that have been emptied that we've been able to relocate definitely safely and then we'll start the development of the Amazon ports okay so when you say the development does that mean we remodel that or and I apologize but no that we have done physical needs assessments on these buildings and they are way beyond their usefulness the residents can attest to this they need to be brought in and we need to start okay so so when they are demolished then by that time all the residents that lived there will be already have other homes right before we can start that but not all at once again in phases so we are not going to clear out all 501 units at once it's going to be a little at a time and so if somebody lived in the area where somebody choose to live elevations depending on what budget are available to your housing so with any revitalization effort we are going to demolish and all look at housing we apply to HUD for relocation factors and so they provide a tool so we can have it on one hand to be able to do that okay okay can I go with these numbers because I know that when you say 60% and it will be an income it's confusing so you said the area and you get an income in San Antonio is 71 pounds so we are going down these will be for the other 40 when you said that you will go by 60% different tiers that's awesome so it's different tiers but it's also based on family size so that's where a family of four so as you keep going down and for example a family of three that actually those numbers get considerably smaller and bear in mind that's the maximum too that's the maximum a person can make that's why it's affordable when we say 60% and under if you have a voucher or if you if you desire to live there that's again the maximum hence the affordable housing and it goes down to as you said the 30% 21,300 but those rents are not indicative of the 60% no those not even close to that we can provide the rents that are going to be but those are much higher than what they would be at 60% we were getting them from 60% so could you please provide the current monthly rent of course before we're done today before we're done today I can start looking it up right now why everybody you know the last time we spoke you said high-rise and it scared me high-rise and it scared me that was the character I was like yeah high-rise is scared and then after every other I don't see how a high-rise is going to be but that's what came out of him and then you said the reason that we needed to have a high-rise because other than that we wouldn't qualify for the price and again here at the Marseille the government of where it's not there we don't want to change the character of our new people I'm going to be here forever I have a third generation and this is coming in and this is where people from Lantan come to see the character the culture they cross the bridge and we're totally a different world you know you remove the tower that's sad to be on it so you change the character but we deserve it we're hardworking people and we deserve better 8 years ago like this nobody had inputs on the designs because the ports were terrible you know you're talking about concrete floors, concrete stairs restaurants upstairs I mean I wonder how many children didn't fall and break their head it was scary in their home and I just think that was part of the project building a jail whenever it was left over again so yes I really really want you to fight for the character of this new government thank you very much we wanted to now see there's ranges so the one bedrooms start at $310 no that's for the public house but if you wanted to go with the 60% they'd start at $710 and the two bedrooms would be they range from $355 for the public house so they're not the half of them are going to be at $310 and $355 so if you're doing the 60% then those go to $850 and the three bedrooms go from $355 $355 to $990 for the 60% so it's not $110 so we don't have four bedrooms and then so the 50% would also come that would also be significantly down from that as well oh yeah we're going to accept 50% AMI and 30% AMI too so those would be that's why they say the range 40% of that I can really break I can break it down to the neighborhood as well but at least half when I said are the $310 to $355 40 of them are at least going to be $310 to $355 so you can get a $3 better than $355 Marine Gallardo I've been displaced twice now my lifetime once in San Antonio a single mom with three kids both times we're equally as traumatizing losing my neighborhood and watching my community my neighbors just you know their homes and have to move away and I see that that's what I understand now is happening 500 units are being demolished a lot of ones right I understand the whole business and so for 44 units inside of the Alesson box so no buildings would be demolished for the 44 units so 500 units are being demolished in phases and 44 are being built in the first phase and so will all of those people can we make sure can we do it in a way in which nobody ever has to leave this neighborhood at all that they get to stay at the schools that they get to stay where their dance class is at and they're only so you're saying that at this point the way that the phases are planned to go and so that nobody will be forced to relocate if they want to if they want to stay in this community they have that choice if they want to leave this community they also have that choice and then every person who wants to stay in this community will 100% be guaranteed a public housing unit, Frenchman not a public housing unit, they have the choice to go public housing or section 8 voucher and that is their choice I can tell you historically in the past the majority choose probably about 70-80% choose to go on the section 8 voucher and do people understand in Sao Honduras the housing crisis going on and so it's getting more and more affordable closer to the inner city especially in the west side we see the highest inflated prices of purchasing values in the entire country and so are people being informed like back to you how can I get involved, how can I be a leader how can I make sure that all of my neighbors know what's going on what are you guys going to do to intensely engage the community in this entire process because I talked to a lot of the Alesson residents and they wouldn't know anything that's going on and so what is Sao Honduras going to do to go into those communities and get that feedback and make sure that it's part of not just community meetings in which everybody gets 3 minutes to ask a couple questions and then get some answers and some non-answers instead that they get to leave here fully informed and have a say in how these next phases go that's a great question I'm going to pass it to you because we have to go into it so when we started this process for the Choice Initiative back in 2017 we actually went house to house every single unit was knocked down we did surveys there was approximately a little less than 300 respondents and we collected a whole school of information on our residents not just about sort of what their housing needs were but as you probably could imagine families need child care they need education they need health services they need clothing they need food and eat all of these types of things so we took that collective data to try to figure out how do we actually provide those services if we went at some point in the future that we actually are fortunate enough to get dollars to start to actually demolish to potentially move people we've done this experience before we actually moved to another updated survey to look at those particular populations and those people to figure out what are their specific needs and provide intense case management Surveys aren't good enough quantitative data isn't good enough for stuff like this you need to be on the ground talking to people and engaging them in every single step of the process and getting them the opportunities such as child care such as pizza and food but I mean frequently we have these meetings and then people are going to start getting displaced so what's the next meeting going to be we will let you know time frame you can also follow us on this facebook we will keep you updated we have all of your emails and you signed in today and provided us your email will provide you with information will provide you with invitations to attend I think it's important to say because I know that there's a lot of misinformation in the community going on in the community we are not a soap works we are not a mission trail this is our mission this is what we do when we create housing it's not to displace our residents it's to build a new quality housing and that's important and I think all of you will need to know that it's what we do affordable housing is what we do when we have subsidized units we have to have a mix of income levels in order to support those developments but please know that it is our mission it's what we do it's for the long haul not short term thanks person is Gabriel Velasquez thank you I want to thank you all for coming to me I don't know what your association is that day showed up about 15 members address please remember house rules but I want to just for the record I stand with the residents of the Alasana Pache housing and with the resident council this young lady spoke a second ago I think it's only for us to listen to the residents live there that this is their experience there's a lot of people that were born and raised in the west side but not all of them were poor my father was born and raised in the west side in this area they were very, very poor it's a good job that the housing authority has done and it's had its bumps in the road over the decades but there was a time when the community found out and the slum shortage raised all the prices of the properties making it impossible for them to be public housing and Eleanor Roosevelt was called by and she came to visit him and she saw the conditions of the people living in the slums and there's a famous phone call where she tells her husband these people need housing and there's something happening in this community I hope all the leaders can take time to consider that today we don't think twice when saving a candina but when it comes to public housing for the poor we're saying not in my backyard there's something wrong, very wrong I think it's a time when we have the convenience of owning properties that we look around us and we decide what we want and we forget that we are in the poor's neighborhood in the city of San Antonio in 1979 the median household income in this community was $12,000 a year today it's $11,400 those are facts but it's to each and every one's conscience when you stand up you get this microphone and you take your PhDs and your public service and you know that deep down inside you have a self-interest as we're taught right that everybody organizes out of their self-interest but the people that are living in the public housing said they apply and they live where there's opportunity we can only support our residents of the Al San Apache because let me just close with this friends and neighbors when you add up all the houses and all the brothers and sisters that live in those houses those numbers don't come anywhere near the amount of single mothers raising their children in the public housing projects I appeal to your conscience set your self-interest aside and let's let our residents continue to empower themselves because if you go deep enough in your own family history you are them we are them we are the established in 1979 and 77 and all its different iterations we're with you the I grew up in this neighborhood I could dance classes here I'm a resident of the west side my concern is for the residents of the Al San and displacement welcome to 3D do you have a breakdown of the 1, 2 and 3 bedroom apartments the number of 1, 2 and 3 bedroom apartments and how many of those would be available for public housing he's going to look it up and we can go to the next one the other question is actually for the residents of the Al San courts how many of you have been promised or how many of you actually believe to be able to move into the new housing project the Al San Loft okay I mean my biggest concern is for if you want to be here you should stay here we don't want to lose anybody from the west side we don't want the number of students from J.T. Breckenridge to go down because you have to move to another part of the city what will you do for the Al San Loft project I'm just asking have you considered those questions because the reality is that there are 500 units and there are only 40 sorry public housing units available there are going to be people who are not going to be able to move into the new Loft project I want to say that I am totally supportive of public housing and new housing here in the west side we are all in support of that April and last year there is nobody here in this room that is against Saha working on a project to better the west side that is not the case at all we are just concerned that people are going to have to be the west side and we don't want that to happen can I do a minute answer and then you can answer I am definitely still for the third I am not trying to cut you off I just want to address a minute so the breakdown is building A just depending on you know what I am going to give you option B because that is an option we are shooting for so that is the four story building it has got 48 units it has got 8 one bedrooms 42 two bedrooms and 14 three bedrooms and then the other the other side the building B would be 16 two bedrooms and 8 three bedrooms they are just going to be divided in half they are all equally proportionate we are not slinging like to give more rent we are not slinging the 60% over at the three bedrooms but to answer your other question and I think you had a question and I know you addressed it to the residents to reiterate to the whole group this is on top of the 501 new ones so I think it is important to note that nothing is being replaced with Alizon Laws not it is again we are not trying to replace anything at this moment we want to build this and then move whatever residents are whatever residents can move into Alizon Laws so that is on top of the 501 so consider it 501 units and then 589 basically we are moving that and then we are going then at that point Saha will start with either a second phase maybe equally around 88 units that they can find the land to move it into or they will start phasing demolition so nobody would be able to be displaced the most important thing that we want to reiterate to the entire group here is that if everybody wants to stay in this neighborhood they will stay in this neighborhood that is the most important thing so I think you had did you have a third question too my name is Graciela Sanchez I also grew up in this neighborhood I went to Greece I went to Cooper I went to Lanier class of 78 and I'm tired of people saying that I'm not from the neighborhood I also now live off of Sarsamora and Monterey I don't live in the public housing but I'm with the Esperanza and we also own property the Rinconcito de Esperanza that will be right across the public housing and a couple of so I just want to challenge Gabriel Velasquez to say that we're not supporting the public housing when the first meeting was held about the lofts because that's different for us than the choice grant we understood there were more buildings and more apartments and most of those were market rate and we challenged that and to your credit market rate housing went down and public housing went up and that's because we challenged it and we said we want the Alhazan residents to stay here and we would say and we would love 88 units to be public housing we're not afraid we want people who are here if you want so I just don't want us to be pitted against you all we support housing we especially want housing for the people workers and so we're with you I'm concerned that and I want to challenge again that this is for me the first meeting about the Alhazan loft since February of this year and the same sort of slide presentation was done then as well as now and so again we're disappointed we're disappointed because you know I think you've learned but we also have a history with Saha I remember living next to the Victoria Courts and I remember marching with the Victoria Courts residents when they were going to tear them down and the people didn't want to move and they got pushed out and most of those people didn't come back and that was a few years ago but I was there marching but that was a Saha Hope 6 project and that pushed people out and the San Juan Homes although we've heard people came back only 2% of the people that lived at the San Juan Homes came back 2% and according to you Lorraine 20% of the people that lived at the Wheatley Courts came back so we're concerned when we hear that this is one phase one there are 501 units right now and they're going to only make room for 40 public housing units for you all and then when they tear down the other ones we want to make sure that there is housing here so you say there's going to be room where how many of those are going to be for public housing where else in the west side do you have right now or the next 2 years so when those 325 applications for Saha to apply for 325 units that just went before the Saha meeting on August 1st 325 so our concern is those buildings may be demolished before there's housing units for the people and so you all will have a choice to come back but if it's 2 years, 3 years, 4 years you may never come back so we're concerned those are the questions that we're concerned about okay so it's just we also have a history with Saha and the lack of keeping people in their places and understood and we acknowledge that and we're telling you that we are doing it better we've learned and we are listening and I think we've proven that we have tried very hard to accommodate everyone's desires but as you know it's not possible to do everything for everyone and so we tried to find the middle ground and that's as best as we can do as far as I want to make this very very clear we in no way are thinking we're going to put 501 people in 40 units please understand that it's been said over and over but that is a misconception there is no way we can do that and we know and that's why I'm telling you making sure you know that that is not the plan and they know it because we've been planning this for over two and a half years and they know that we are looking to build other developments so that we can keep individuals that want to stay in the neighborhood within the neighborhood and those that choose to move away that is their choice again just like we have a choice to live or we desire they should also next person I just need to respond to this issue about the percentages 30% AMI 40% 15% and 60% so when I started the meeting earlier I told you about those 28 graduates of FSS that went and got themselves educated they either got their high school diploma or GED got a certification and got employed that made their income rise so just this Saturday we had a partnership with Alamo Colleges and we enrolled residents into what's called a health professions opportunity grant so one of the residents said earlier I'm a single parent of five children here's what happens with those residents is they go and they get themselves educated and they get their opportunity to graduate from programs like that and get good jobs where they're going to be making about their family size they're still considered low income so when we're looking at these housing units yes we want to serve and have a certain percentage for people making 30% AMI or lower but we also want to provide opportunities for people who went back to school and got themselves educated and got themselves into training because many of them their income or increase but they still cannot afford to live that's what this project represents is not only opportunities for existing residents of Alassane who are making 30% AMI or lower but also for those who decide that they want to improve themselves and maybe they can't sort of at some point until maybe their kids graduate from high school to move on because their income while it may increase may still not be enough to be able to have them afford other opportunities somewhere else so that speaks to the 40, 50 and 60% AMI because when you crunch those numbers you look at an income even somebody making $25,000 a year 30% of their income is still about $7,500 worth of rent so I just wanted to sort of say that in the context of opportunities for existing residents who maybe rep to like elderly who cannot sort of are going to be on a fixed income cannot necessarily increase their income but we're also talking about opportunities for people who can increase their income we don't want to kick them out we want to give them an opportunity for them to live here Thank you Adrian Jaime H Thank you First of all my name is I'm born here in the west side I went to JT Breckenridge and I graduated from linear in 1980 First of all I want to say thank you for what y'all do and try to create affordable housing we know that it's a crisis across the city and it is across the country and we recognize that I want to make it very clear to others as well I didn't grow up in the other side I grew up right on the other side of the bridge in fact all of my friends that I hung out with I really wanted to live in the courts why can't we live in the courts and I couldn't but I spent all of my childhood right here on Golima street with my good friend Iris and on the fallen street behind it with my good friend Eleanor who's no longer with us and so I want to make sure that everybody here understands that the people that are here that don't live in the Alasam courts are only here because we care because it's in our heart because we are you and because I went away for a while and maybe I got educated and maybe I make more money now that doesn't mean that I forgot who I am and where I come from and that's everybody I don't know anybody here who we all know from this side I wasn't born and my friends would tell me hey you're rich you have a house you went into my house and saw all the political signs on the window because the window we couldn't afford to replace them or all the pots and pans everywhere and that like there still are in a lot of houses in this neighborhood you don't understand that no we work for and so I could choose to live anywhere anywhere in this city I could live in Stone Oak I could live anywhere but I don't want to I want to live here I want to continue to fight for people just like the ones that I grew up with I want to continue to fight just like so many people here have been fighting for decades for everyone in this community because we are West Side we are West Side through and through and so I just want to make that clear that we're fighting because like Graciela said we have to move a history and we want to make sure that things are correct or that things are done fairly and justly and the next thing that I'll say is that it's very and I get it I understand what you said about the design of this but people have invested so much of their time for years and going back to 2005 about what we wanted to preserve what we wanted to preserve about our culture about our community and people spend hours and hours and hours planning and coming to meetings and doing all of this stuff and then it often feels like that just kind of goes by the wayside because oh well we just got to do this and that's that they're going to have to live with it and I appreciate the fact that you've been working with this been on some of the other people here to try to kind of scale things down the frustration going through you've got the west side plan the Luba plan all of these plans and it seems like people just don't go back and read them and just stick to what it is that the community developed and so again thank you I understand that it's a very difficult situation to be in but I want to make it very clear to everybody that we are here with you and nobody here is on a self interest because we could be anywhere else so thank you very much after that I don't know what to say well I'm Henry Rodriguez, I'm the executive director for Lula and Concilio Zapatista we have a long history with the San Antonio Housing Authority not all of it has been good but then again partnerships can be good we can always come together again and do what we believe is right we had a horrible situation and this was one of the most egregious things that could ever happen and then it wasn't being a story those 20 million dollars for homes and everything that HB homes everything that they did was wrong from the I know because I was on the task force committee I was appointed by Patty Rayl when she was on console and there was a horrible thing and I think it did not have a very good ending either because those people that suffered there they should have gotten beauty damages and all they got was a little bit of money that's it I'm sorry, that's what happened I was there, I'm a witness to that so what I want to say is I'm also a member of the community development council it's right there in the west side across the bridge and that council we also build affordable housing throughout the state, not just here in San Antonio through tax credits and my executive director, Walter Martinez does an excellent job of keeping tabs and we know how hard it is to get those tax credits from the state so having said that again, I just follow up what get us in and that we have to be ever vigilant of anybody that comes into this community and tells us we're going to do this, we're going to do that and this goes for the residents and everybody else being very wary please read the fine print look at everything that's there things won't just go over your head or by the wayside and I read that again we really thank you for it this is a great program, we need it and I will leave in three addresses here at the other side Uncle Lima on Colorado and Aunt Milasol growing up and there was a lot of problems and I can tell you what, I was part of the problem at one time so I thank you very much this is great, thank you we do have to be vigilant because we know there are prospectors in the area that have property as well as occupied houses that's not SAHA SAHA is not doing that, please understand that we're not looking to purchase occupied homes we purchased vacant land in order to rebuild or to build new housing so I just want to make that clarification Jessica? my questions have been answered I am the president of the my name is Jessica Bowman and I'm a single mom and I'm on disability so moving isn't exactly the easiest thing for me I live here and this is my family I have zero in family besides my children in San Antonio so one thing that does bother me is knowing that the people who have grown to become my family is definitely non-existent I do strive to assist my daughter to a good school I didn't keep her in the area I chose to put her in a vansal and had to be downtown I walk two miles each way when my daughter wants to attend after school clubs on 100 degree weather just so she can attend the school clubs that she wants to attend so my fear is is that I'm not going to be anywhere close to my daughter in case to school because I can't afford to take the VA 30 days out of the month to pick her up and bring her home and I don't want her to miss out on her activities that she has in school by being placed even further away from where she has at school and then my other concern is construction how will that affect us as residents to live right near where you are starting the building I'll take your first question and we understand your concern and that is why we are being very thoughtful about how we go about this redevelopment process we're making sure that we build first again we're looking to build units within the west side in order for a division to be able to stay in the neighborhood those that want to so that it will be a smooth transition from an old public housing into your beautiful modern I've always supported the idea that when you went to speak about it it's just my concern is that all my doctors are downtown my daughter's school is downtown and this is my family I have zero family in San Antonio so the west side the good and the bad has become I'm not even from here I'm from Virginia in a small town but this is actually the best spot for my daughter to go to school and have an education because there are no schools like there are here in San Antonio you get one choice and one choice and that's it so I guess the west side is now part of me even though I'm not from the west side welcome to you this is your home and all you want to do is make your home good so Jason's going to have the construction question so the construction is going to take about 14 months overall but most of that is going to be interior work so again it's the site excavation and the exterior is it going to affect the outages the water electricity no it's not going to do that so it should not do that at all and in fact the dust should be kept to a minimum with all the new standards that we have to do for sub-screening and a variety of other things that should keep it down the only time that the noise is going to be an issue I think would be early in the morning and that's when we're going to be pouring foundation foundation just gets put forward early in the morning because it'll start around the summer and it's real hot so that's just poor transparency that's going to be five in the morning four in the morning when they pour that that'll be about the only time when it's going to be if you're going to be noticing that while there's still a lot of residents there but the rest of the construction is going to occur during the day and then certainly once it gets moved interior that should not be bothering anybody can I ask one more question so the units that are currently surrounding where you were building are those going to be the first ones that you consider demolishing that college? Not necessarily, it's probably going to be started on the, again this is the SAHA led initiative so it'll probably be a little bit more on the west side of Colorado but it's not necessary that is completely still to be done because I don't like change and I don't know how many people in here do not like change so this is all scary for me to become a better enrichment but at the same time we're with you to understand change is there and for a lot of us the change could be good and that's what we're going to accomplish and make your life better for you and your kids Francisco how are you? I am from the other side in those four or five blocks down the street and I just want to say for SAHA how do you guys have a story of how is it going to affect this one to the community and how is it going to affect the economy how is it going to affect the culture how is it going to affect the traffic all these kind of things and you put a big problem on this in my breaks I am afraid that this is going to start being the first stage of gentrification and my taxes they were starting up I see it with my friends on this side I see it on the south side I moved over here from Mexico City I was living in the roadway but in 10 years you see that change so I am just afraid that is why one of my questions if you guys have studied what is around how is it going to affect the community other than here it's important but also the community what is going to happen with this kind of thing with all these kind of things how do you do a study about this or is this a problem it's a problem that is my question so we did actually do a market study and that does take into account the neighborhood and the economic impact and the variety of other questions however it doesn't necessarily get into depth of the culture so that is a certain instrument question I would the idea of revitalization without any justification I mean to a certain degree you know that is really the goal is trying to you can see around this thing oh yes an example and we need to criticize ourselves it's happening maybe it's not the best way to go we need to ask them to do something because those apartments they look the same like the one on the south side it's just a big improvement over there so we need to start thinking I don't see any development on sustainable editing the traffic is the same the parking lot is the same a lot of parking lots nothing like sustainable energy nothing like this is just another project like the other ones this is just my concern and being our heroes how is it going to affect me because it's going to affect me in the economic way basically I am afraid I will get over there and I am sure it's going to happen to me so that is my other thing the community has the transportation all those kind of things and if you have not studied can I have access to see it my other question is you are talking about the ADA juniors over here ten days ago it was on the website a product for 5 units in the ala sun for the next $44 million funding for that one for the Tricorat 5 ala sun project $44 million you know so that means then we start with this one and you guys are going to jump to the other one the other one how far is it from this unit how far is it because I don't think this plan is just that we are going to Tricorat with the $44 million no it's a plan I think it should be right so we are looking to develop all of the ala sun project eventually so you are going to create these buildings this is what you are saying so we got three public housing developments in this website right ala sun project right now we are focusing on just ala sun our goal is to redevelop ala sun and then we can look at the apache we can then look at gasiano so this 325 we are going to manage the one so where are we going to go with this 325 so the 325 what we did is we are looking ahead planning for the future and in order for us to get in line for months we needed to submit an application by the 15th which is tomorrow and that's why that went to the board because we are planning for the future for the ala sun course actually it was announced it was for the 4 million dollars for that project it was for the 4 million they approved right like I said 325 I don't think I just said I want to 325 buildings I think it's a plan because the same I saw the plan over the Palavita the 24 floors the same high rise apartment complex the same as the tower I also phoned you for saha for public housing the same high rise and downtown so those other things it doesn't make sense to me so we are doing things that you haven't heard it before the same things I've seen the same things I've seen what is happening in the city okay so let me address the first one with ala sun right now I can't give you specifics because we are in the RFP process for a developer to redevelop all the 501 units in phases And so that is on the street right now. We're looking for someone to do that. Once we do that, then we start talking and planning on how we can develop that entire area and what it's gonna look like and how many units and what kind of units and the whole nine yards. So we're at the very beginning of the stage. We just needed to get in line so that when April, I mean August 15th comes, we're in line for bonds. We apply for what's called a carry forward and that gives us three years to plan. Okay. Basically, we're gonna have demolition, right? Eventually, yes, they will. I need, I guess you guys, three weeks alone, the zoning meeting, you guys were applying for the IPC-3, zoning, we went in for the MF-33 to IPC-3. And my question is, why IPC-3? Why don't IPC-2? I went to, maybe I homerun, and I started playing the code and everything. Because I was wondering, why IPC-3? IPC-3 is really open. It says the highest, you can go, the higher you want, you can do basically wherever you want. IPC-2, it has more units, right? So just double the one, my question, what was the decision, why IPC-3 and why no IPC-2? So that's one of your last questions, right? Do we have one? Yeah, just a second. We used IPC-3 for the setbacks and for some of the other accommodated measures, including the parking. And it was also for the four story, whereas IPC-2 was on the four. Huh? The parking, even IPC-3, even if the parking says you can go 50% of the time. No, no, no, I know, I just look for, it's just in general. Well, I just... But also for the height, too. Because MF-33 allows four stories. IPC-2. Say that again. IPC-2 allows four to go. IPC-3 allows an open time. It was for a variety of things, which I think, Jeff, can you speak to the IPC-3 for the reason why we chose IPC-3? Is that more of a civil question? Because I know it also had to do with some of the setbacks, as well. Did you... Yeah, I mean, Jason, I thought it had to do with the number of stories, I don't know. Yeah, I thought it had to do with the stories, too, because I thought IPC-3 was for four, I don't know. IPC-3 was for four. Okay, Caroline? This is Caroline with Ground and Ortiz. In addition to the parking, it's also the number of units. I'm not parking. It's that we needed non-commercial parking on some of those vacant lots across the street. And because of the separation, because of the right-of-way, we had to have some of that standalone parking as, and that's why we requested the IPC-3. It's not the amount of parking spaces. It's because it's standalone parking that we had to have a commercial use in addition to the multi-family use. Who's to move to the next? Yeneth Flores? Yeneth Flores? Hi, my name is Yeneth. I have a couple of questions. So really quickly, I know my time is limited, but I do want to clarify the notion that the courts are in bad shape because they just like, God, in bad shape, we need to acknowledge that there is a landlord, right? And the landlord is, aha. And you fail to maintain the court. So, you know, if my landlord doesn't keep up with my apartment, then it is on him because I am paying my rent in order for him to be back. Right, so that's the first thing I need to be clarified. Folks, don't let them put it on you. It is on your landlord to fix your home. Now, I do have a question that's very particular. How many people are currently in your waitlist for public housing? I feel like this is like a number that we've already had. Yeah, over 30,000. Over 30,000 combined section. Combined section and public housing. Combined section and public housing, perfect. So, how will you select the public housing residence for the 40 units in the box? So, first of all, we'll provide preference for the Alizan residence that will be affected first, yes, we're assuming that these folks are coming from the Alizan office, or the Alizan office. How will you select the 40 residents that will then move on to the office? Well, I assume that once applications open up, everybody is going to apply. Right, so it's, and it's decided in order. Okay. What, folks, take notice, take notice, y'all. Take notice. Man, I just have so many questions. It's open, I thought we needed more community meetings. What exactly does the next phase for this look like? And I want to add in there that there are 30,000 people in your wait list, right? So, I think that it is critical that in there you have two for one replacement, right? Because there's clearly a heavy wait list. So, in order to alleviate some of that, we should be doing all that we can to make sure that we are building more affordable housing. Because everybody in this room, right? Again, we should. Everything, we should stand together and make sure we're building as much affordable housing as we can do. Hell yeah, and we can do that. We agree. But how are you going to do that? Exactly. Well, two for one, right? Like that's a thing that we really need to consider. So, this is something that's us committed to. We will no longer have fully 100% public housing communities. We're not doing that anymore. We're not warehousing the poor people. That's not correct. We will always do against income or affordable housing, 100% affordable housing. And in order for us to do this, it's a financial thing. How can we structure this development? How many units of deeply subsidized units can we get into this development supported by the affordable, supported by the market? So, I can tell you really, yes, it is difficult. And we do need more. But Saha is not the only developer in the city. And we can't do the 30,000. But you are our developer. We can't do 30,000 on our own. And the city is aware of that, and that's why. We have that commission now that is pushing to make sure that all developers within the city of San Antonio are including affordable housing within the world. But Saha, yes, that's our mission and that's our goal. To do as many as we can. So, I'm planting the seed, two for one. Two for one. Can you commit to ensuring that everybody that currently lives at the courts has the right to return under public housing? They have the right if they choose to. We're going to record it right now. Again, following up on the first question, what exactly does the next phase of this project look like in stages of like, you know, you do plan to face it out, which I think is phenomenal. That's how it should be done. But what exactly does that look like? Because I am concerned as to how many of the 501 units that are going to be redeveloped, right? I'm assuming that you're going to make more than that. How many of those will be market rate? But most importantly, how many of those are going to be public housing? So, I can't tell you. I already explained that we have RFP. We're looking for a master developer to help us with this planning. So, what I can tell you is about Amazon Loss, which is why we're here this evening. It's a talk about the Amazon Loss. And when we get started on the overall master plan for the area, you will make sure you're included. Not a problem. And lastly, how many of the jobs are you? No, I actually have two more questions. Is it your last question? Okay. About five minutes already. Why did you ignore the community plan, seemingly from the beginning of this design process, and can you pledge to respect and follow the three existing community plans that you're designing? So, I'm going to let you know, and I, as we've said already, that we have tried and we have met, even without our residents, we've met with, which, you know, we didn't have to do, but we did, because we respect you. And we are trying to do what we can to find a middle ground. And that's all I can show you. We're trying to find a middle ground. Thank you. Yoen, Richard Costa with My City Is My Home. We help low income renters find homes and we help homeless protest at Papua, Texas. So, I heard your name, and so I wanted to just clarify one more time. So, the 500 units, all the ones that have public housing are set aside for public housing currently. Upon demoing everything, they will be replaced. The person that's in public housing today, when it's replaced, there will be a public housing, because there is a difference between a voucher and public housing with riots and things that come with that. So, for every public housing that's being brought down, there's going to be a replacement. No, because this is not choice. Choice requires one for one and provides us the funding to do that. We don't have choice to do that. So, there's no way to do one for one or even two for one. There's just not enough money to do so. But what we do do is do public housing along with section eight in order to provide opportunities for our families that want to stay in the community to come back to the units, whether it's public housing or section eight. And that is their choice. So, out of how much public housing currently exists and what's going to be available for replacement, how many is going to be replaced? So, that was a previous question. We can't tell you right now. Again, we're advertising for a master developer to come in and work with us and everything. Please understand this. Every phase, every single development is dependent on its financing. And when we go out there financing was acknowledged earlier, it's very difficult. We've been at this a long time and we're grateful for what we have right now. We don't know what the future is going to hold for us. And so, every development, every phase, how many units do you subsidize? Affordable and market will be dependent on what we can get. So, the problem with section eight, one of the issues of, all right, you work public housing, gives a section eight voucher, go ahead and find something that's finding something. So, our non-profit, that's what we do. We do it for free. We help section eight voucher holders buy homes. 2% of the market accept section eight voucher holders. So, saying that they're going to be able to find a property where they are. If you're saying that if I was a public housing person and I'm going to give you a voucher and then saying that they will be able to come back to the area, that's section eight. It's up to the landlord to accept it at that point. And so, that's one of the issues is- With the landlord. Did you know that the affordable units take section eight? Yeah. So, it's not just public housing. When we build and we talk about affordable units, we take section eight voucher. Why not do public housing? Because it's a different subsidy that's received. And it's all, again, it's all about the math. How many deeply subsidized units can we support and at what levels can they be supported by the other units? So, if I'm public housing, you give me a voucher, I can come back over here and my money's not going to change or anything like that. You're about to pay. What you're paying on your voucher is what you're paying. It just doesn't make a lot of money. So, public housing is based on the individual's income and their family composition. All right, well, then I'll put that one to the side and wanted to add. So, if I currently live here and then I'm being moved on to another location, is there going to be relocation support, like disabled? I need help to move my, is somebody going to go out there and help them move physically to the next location? Absolutely. Absolutely. Provide them with financial support, case management support. We help them move all the support that's needed. And my last question is, so our nonprofit helps homeowners protest property taxes for free. So, I just did a mile radius of this area. Majority of the homes are worth under $100,000 that are currently being sold. And so, on this revitalization of this area, a new development area came. Has Sahal, where there are any clients to reach out to the homeowners in the area and see by ensuring that they have their home set exemptions, there are senior freezes, because since there's going to be a city-induced improvement to the area and financially done, so, well, then the community, the homeowners, to stop displacement need to be notified that, hey, do you have your home set exemptment because all of a sudden your evaluation is going to increase a lot more than it had been the last two years? Well, we go into a community who work with our city council person in order to get that done. All right, I think that's that, too. Okay. We said we'd be too respectful, so let's be respectful. Devin Walker. I'm living in Salinas, in Colorado. I'm relatively new to the West Side of the group, and sort of like someone else said, you know, I could never before... And I absolutely love this community. I've never been welcome with open arms the way I have here, and I really love all of y'all, so thank you. Thank you. I'm super excited to see the opportunity for an increased quality of life. And we've seen a time again with neighborhoods that, unfortunately, have revitalized and in an inappropriate manner, which I hope is happening here. But the main concern is parking. You can address 100 parking spaces, but 88 units, the majority of which are going to be two bedrooms, so the map isn't quite out there. Add to the fact that we're putting a community center there. I'm concerned about cars being everywhere, parallel, part of limiting visibility, dangerous for the kids that want to play, dangerous for cars running around. Would there be any potential for maybe considering alternative parking, maybe like a two-story parking, perhaps, or maybe they can't fill out the love or something? You know, of course, with the design of the parking garage, it would be mindful of the neighborhood. So you took the lead, and that's a very good question, because we heard it during, and we've heard it again for now, we've seen it with a Spodontic group in the short preservation room and tier one. First, it was there's not enough parking. So we tried to include as much parking as we could, because it is a concern with our residents and they locked that up as well. And with the people living in the residential area, because we don't want all these cars on the street walking traffic. But then when we met recently, it was we don't want that much parking. We don't want these parking spaces. So we've tried to redesign to make sure that we bring down some of the parking but still have enough based on historical information on 88 minutes, what would be needed within that particular community. So again, I want you to see, this is the balance you have to do, because with every individual that's in this room has a different need or desire, and it's very, very difficult to meet everyone's needs and everyone's desire. But we are trying. So we're going to go on to the next question. Did you have another one? Did you have another one? Welcome. To clarify my last question, and it's my fault, I don't think I was clear enough. But the one thing that I'm quite concerned and that I'm going along out of conflict and my circumstances and my situation with my family is that I don't know how to ask all the right questions. I don't even feel like I'm educated enough to really be in here. You know, the entire process from being a knife from an NRP criteria before has created an urgency. So now, you know, it's not in peace. It's not healthy. I'm trying to figure all this in my head. So to clarify my last question was, can I be a part of meetings outside of community meetings? Can I volunteer? You know, to be here today, to be in a meeting yesterday in regards to Alizan Fafina, which I was hoping to see my city councilwoman there and, you know, she didn't come, but being able to go to that meeting yesterday and be here today with a sacrifice that I am going to see in my refrigerator. And so I have lost income, but I'm willing to volunteer. So in regards to, you know, animal colleges has a student on their board sitting at the table with chancellors, presidents, partners and programs. And I am part of the FSS program as well. And again, I think I sit in thousands of same shoes that throughout this community is that, you know, can I again volunteer my time to sit at a, I should know a developer's name. They should know my name by first name. You know, when I come into these meetings, try on them. And it's not to push back on any kind of planning, but just the consideration of what the residents here are concerned and their wants, but would also work, well, it's going to work for us to help us grow to be better, you know, the whole nine yards. Because I am for, I'm for redeveloping, you know, and even to a 75% of bringing the same numbers back into the area. But my question is, can I volunteer myself to the meetings that there's directors and there's developers and there's lawyers. And if it's for free, and I volunteer, then I'd sacrifice a way to make for my family and many other families who might not have the opportunity or even a mental capacity to be able to understand community meetings like this. I mean, my frustration is to hear, I'm not speaking for the other residents, but, you know, we do have people here who are in disability who are paying $20 a month. And, you know, that has to be able to carry on out of consideration. Again, I'm only hearing because my heart and my prayer was giving me the words that I asked them to date because I don't even feel confident to ask all the right questions. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'd like to answer a portion of your question, which is that you're asking to volunteer and then to be participating in meetings and those types of things, right? Yeah, so I would point you one because there's many opportunities to do that. So these folks here that are part of the resident leadership, they meet quite often. They provide a newsletter to the community. They host events. They do food distributions.  I mean, they're just close to the back to school. I saw them during for those for two years. I also was in the San Antonio fatherhood campaign. Oh, okay. So I go outside of my job every day. Community members have my personal cell phone number and call me at one o'clock when they're in a domestic violence situation or in a parenting crisis to get their kids back to keep their children from CPS courts and things like this. So I understand that opportunity and I've been taking those opportunities for two years now. I attended, you know, I spoke in the last where the last event that you guys just had recently on Saturday, I did that last year and it was so empowering and it was an awesome opportunity. But all of the opportunities that I've been given still have not allowed me to maybe sit at a table with a developer and I was also on resident council and it was a it was an experience and so I volunteer now instead of being on the resident council however I can assist even if that means when everybody's gone that I'm picking up trash and I'm full of content I should give it to my community. You're a perfect example of what we we try to uphold with our residents, right? So one is I want to give it to you and Jason to address your personal issue associated with what happened with some of our community to get to the bottom of that. So I'm going to assist to the guardians in relation to sort of the future meetings I think, you know, I'm going to defer to these folks but I'm glad you're already taking advantage of the other opportunities to provide resident leadership and I think I do remember we were at the education summit so that's when you participated in that so perfect you're doing all the right things and yes there's opportunity again it's important to everyone it's important to everyone it's a great opportunity to sit in these planning meetings outside of so behind closed door meetings again animal colleges have these boards meetings for all these different units and I personally got to sit on the board as a student as an intern and it was part of my my stipend was a part of those hours we don't have anything that exists right now but it's something that we can look into we don't have a board like that that exists what we do is when we plan we plan with the whole community because everyone has a voice everyone has a desire and opinion about what they want to see but we don't have a particular board right now that is just about to go and I mean wouldn't you say that it's a concern of yours that we don't have a resident that is not official meetings with people who are coming these plans that are going to go forward from the law you know because I'd like to see the Apaches board to come back and I don't know Apaches law So let me address that which we said earlier we have a board of seven commissioners they're all appointed by the mayor five of those are just private citizens that volunteer to serve on our board we have two resident services two resident service sorry two resident commissioners one that was here earlier Mr. Clack he's actually a resident there's on the east side WCY community so there's always an opportunity for you to serve in that capacity you know that's why we try to sort of build up resident leadership so that we identify people like Janet and others right so that at some point in the future if that slot comes up there's a potential that the mayor could actually appoint you to the board at that point and you're dealing with not only sort of the developer issues and all of that but also all of the operations resident services and all of the things associated with that so I would you know when I think the morano saying there's not an existing opportunity that doesn't exist but it does exist within sort of our structure with the board of commissioners just that those opportunities for example they'll come that often I think our resident commissioners have been in for about two to four years maybe but they do come up in the future so there's always an opportunity to do that okay can you over take this hello my name is Emilio Rojas and I do have some concerns I had gotten some years back before and what they had talked about was going away from my density and going more into the time at home how an example they gave was a board area it just so happens I did as if it was mid-eighties it wasn't under good conditions building this cost from different times surrounding area but my concern with this facility on the way in as far as going in is please consider stretchers does a stretcher fit for a heart attack for a ball or whatever but does a stretcher fit in the elevator as well as the the the grade as well as the the the the the height for some reason is I'm now we have a now I am I you They also need an area to assist and prevent somebody. Now you have to be in the 88 units. You have 88 kitchens. So you have to contend with them. They'll make a mistake. Another thing that's important to God is that we look through the names. So if you know these things, they're very important. And what if people do, they find shelves and they look for shelves. And you don't realize that this is very, very, very safe. Now, I don't know if you can have some free money. And when you can, you can go out there for some free action, as I've always been. You can go out to the winch. But a deep project in that design is not a bridge. Innocently by the people that live there. What I heard is that it's not just going to a place, because it's their home. So in other condos of higher level, like on Miltipran and Broadway, you can't go into their home. It's their home. So that's a concern, not a concern, but an operation that I hope y'all take into consideration is very, very easy access. Get the good structure in your house. You can't really relate as having people with a little bit of problems to win their first sport, because that could be a federal or whatever. But how do you have an evacuation? Thank you. We're going to do some type of capacity work. But that's one of the concerns. How do you get the right density, perfect access, how do you get the bullings? No, we can start looking at it. We will definitely address that for the emergency features. Every unit is fitted with a sprinkler. And so that's going to be different from the current courts. But additionally, the current courts, there is not fire truck access for hose leg in between them. So that's something that will be improved for the other one. We'll certainly look into the structure issues. In regard to safety measures on the unit, we can look at the units. And in fact, we're required to, because of our funding, we have to conduct inspections in the comments. And so we have to make, and that's part of the inspection process. And we'll get to you if someone puts a fin in front of a window, because it's a safety measure. So we appreciate your concern. And you can adjust. And the janitor is a lot of people. Okay. So again, thank you for coming tonight. We ask your support. I'm going to say that the resident council does work very hard. Right now, we are at four officers. We do have a newsletter that Michelle works very hard on as far as passing information. We are the largest Sahara community. So it is a lot of work as far as us passing the paperwork up to the windows. So information is passed out. You all know you guys were just here helping us pass out the information for this meeting today. We also have a Facebook where we're constantly posting events and information. So we can have that connection with the community and serve to end here what the community needs and wants are. And we're here for you. We have our monthly meetings. I welcome you guys to come. And we're here. Thank you. And we know that not everyone does social media. And not everyone likes e-mail. So we need to let us know what your preferences is, how to obtain information in order for us to make sure that you get the information. We're doing our best to get out into the neighborhood and to spread the word through social media and to do mailings. And we will continue to do so. Would you mind introducing yourself again and tell me what you're affiliated with? I'm with the City County Commissioner of Country Affairs and I'm attending this so we make sure that we do place to see you understand what else it is. We make sure that they have a place way in the back. I'm Lorraine Robles. Lorraine Robles, ROBLES. I'm the Director of Real Estate Development. Director of Real Estate Development. Yes, what's up? I'm Jason Arachaga. Thank you everybody for coming. You're welcome. So again, thank you for coming out this evening. We appreciate it. We ask for your support in August 27. Thank you for coming today.