Oh my god, this is it. Hey, buddy. Brando! This is it. Hey, buddy. Little Snippers, Flyders, and Newbies. How are you? My name is Marlene McConan. Welcome to my channel. Today is the big, big day. It is. You guys are about to witness something that you've all been waiting for. I am bringing Brando home. Now for some of you, this is going to be the first you've heard of it. For my Flyders, you're going to have known about this way in advance. Because you get my videos early. If you guys want to become part of the Flyders Club, the link is below. Here's my dilemma. George doesn't know. I want to surprise him. And I've been shipping out all of your merchandise today. And I ran into some technical difficulty. So I'm meeting him for lunch so he can fix it. But I don't know if I should tell him there in case he can come with me. Or if I should just kind of like bring the bird home and not tell him. And then just like wait till he comes home and act like stuff is normal and then Brando's there. Because if he can't come with me, it's not going to be as exciting. You know what I mean? So I'm going to go meet him now. What's up? What's up? Why are you filming me? Because I feel like it. Your camera's dirty. Guys, I want to show you what a lunch for us looks like. It's your schedule for the rest of the day. I am going to pick up some stuff. Your camera's so dirty. Come here. I got something weird. Ah. Hey guys. Do you happen to have that? I happen to have everything. You can keep it. Do you have to go leave straight from here? Yeah. Why? I'm just wondering what kind of time you had. That didn't happen. So we're going to have to surprise him later. FYI, ignore my lipstick for the rest of the video, okay? You think I'm the type of person to kind of walk around with like lipstick to reapply, but no. Whatever I leave with is what stays the rest of the day. And that's it. I get one shot. Off to see the bird. Oh my God. So much traffic. I just want to be in the bird store already and see Brando. I have an idea. Wow. And it gave me a Starbucks. Damn. Guys, guess what? George went to his clients and they didn't answer. So I was like, come to the bird store. Come see Brando. So he's actually coming. The universe just gives you what you want, you know? He doesn't know we get to take Brando home today. Is he coming home with us? Mm-hmm. He is? I don't want to say it. Get him home. Wait, we're taking him home? Ah! When do you think we can get Brando? Like really, you want me to spoil it? Dude, babe. Are we getting him today? Okay. Is that what you did?  Yeah. What else would you want to be told to come here? I didn't know. I had no idea. So we're getting him today. Good. Excited? Yeah. So the first 24 hours when you guys take him home, you guys sit at the cage, you put him in there, don't take him out for the first time. Okay. Can you explain that? Because I always take out my birds right away. So I want to know your logic. So he's a baby. He has to adjust to your house, look at his surroundings, make sure nothing here is going to try to harm him. Or things like that. They look around, be able to find his food, look at his new cage because he's going to be different than me. And to make him feel comfortable, you know? So you're saying like he has to stay in the cage because you want him to learn where he's hiding? And also adjust to your house too. You look at his surroundings. What happens if he took a ride? Sometimes, first of all, problems eating. He could drop weight, you know, because he didn't give him time to, you know, make sure he knows what everything is. Second of all, misbehaving. That he could be like, you didn't give him time to settle and didn't give him time to look around, you know, make sure nothing is trying to harm him. So what happens is when you open the door, if you open the door right away and put your hand in there, he tries to bite you because he doesn't want to get out. He might be afraid of a couch, a picture in the wall that you didn't give him time to look at. You know what I'm saying? So in the first 24 hours, you're going to look around. Okay, what's that? What's that? Everything is new. Okay, that's not trying to hurt me. It's okay. That's not trying to hurt me. That's okay. You get it? Okay, I understand. What you're saying is like, for example, Vinny is terrified of ladders. But once I put a ladder in the hallway and left it alone, he knew it wasn't going to get at him. So he stood on the ladder. So you're saying the baby needs time to evaluate that nothing is moving around him. Exactly. You know, he could move, but nothing is going to hurt him. And if I move him, then he doesn't have time to analyze that. But a rescue bird already realizes that the walls don't move. It's not a baby. But this guy, remember when he got here, he was so little, his eyes were closed. He doesn't know what's out there, outside this place. You know, he's going to, it's a whole new world for him.  He could be with you all day and starving out to the head. And not eat his food if you guys don't put him to it. How did you do that? For the first like 10 days in your house, for every half an hour that he's with you, for out of the cage or playing with you, you guys need to put him back on the cage two hours with the darkeners, okay? Every half an hour, just for the next 10 days. Because you need to put us, how you're going to make him. Every half hour. Every half hour with you, he has to go back two hours on the cage. Time doesn't add up. Doesn't mean that we were working all day. We were out all day. So we were out eight hours. Let's stay come out an hour and a half. No, you know, if you guys have time to do every half an hour whenever you can, but if you guys are busy and all he gets is one half an hour before eight o'clock, that's his bedtime, okay? As a baby for like at least a month, eight, eight p.m. He should call. So if you guys are busy and you only get one half an hour, that's okay. For his first 10 days, he's very important. He's only 10 days. You know, after that, he leaves the door open. He'll go and come and he'll go once. You know, but as a baby, the first 10 days, you are like that, all right? And then you have to bring him. We're gonna weigh him for you. You have to bring him next week and we'll weigh him to make sure that he hasn't dropped any weight. He hasn't been eating baby for the last five days. You mean he's been eating by himself? Eating by himself. You know what, that actually brings up a good point because our first cockatiel was obviously a baby. It's not a baby like as a baby. It was already eating on its own. When we brought him home, my dad noticed we're kids, we're like seven years old. My dad noticed he wasn't eating on his own. So my dad had a hand feed him. Lucky my dad noticed that, but my dad like hand fed him and that's probably why we probably gave him so much attention that he didn't eat. Yeah, very much.  This is strictly advice for baby birds. Baby birds, huh? Yeah. This is a rescue. He doesn't apply. He's already, you know? Yeah. He knows what things are about a baby. I always had to get the bird out right away so when I haven't had a baby bird. Oh yeah, nobody's going against it. It's a baby, it's different. Okay.  Or only, the cage should be only sleeping purposes on when you are nothing. Exactly. You know? That's it. Give me five. Yeah. But that's a baby, it's different because he won't eat, they won't eat.  You have to make him eat. Same thing like a kid when he's having fun. A little kid when he's having fun and doesn't want to have lunch or screw dinner. Same thing, you know? You have to make him stop him and make him eat. That's how you're going to do it like this. Do you love birds? Of course. What do you think? I love all animals. What do you want? You got three more muskash pair of feet? Yeah. And they're wings? But I can't even take them out because they're so baby. Is that in the income? Like they have no feathers? No, nothing. But how do you know they're muskashes and not ringers? Oh, because they don't know. She knows. I thought they were ringnecks when I saw them. Oh, my God. I was like, we don't know the colors and we just ring next to them and they just don't know. Oh, my God. What's that? Oh, so if anyone's looking for a Brando. We have them. Okay. Marlene's signature. Burn them. We cannot have these cameras. How can I help you? Oh, my God, this is it. Hey, buddy. What's up, buddy? Brando. This is it. Hey, buddy. It's been a long journey, guys. I'll see you in the next episode. Remember when we first came in and bought all that food and broke and all that? This is it. Came in close enough on Brando. Thank you, Brando. Okay, when do we come in to bring them? When do we bring them for the wing? Monday. Next Monday. Next week. Okay. Sounds good. Week. Brando. Oh. We're taking him home. I know. Are you excited? Yeah. Oh, he's so cute. Hey. He's peeking out. Hey, little buddy.  What should we do? We've got to take him upstairs to sleep in our room. We won't be disturbed by noise. Yeah. We also have to watch the cage. Yeah. Okay. Let's get to it. Oh, we won't be introducing him to any birds today. Obviously, he's going to be in quarantine anyway. George is going to go pressure wash the cage. I got to kiss him while he gets his cage to look. You know what I thought?  Like, I don't know. Weird things have happened. Like the universe cares about all its creatures. Maybe Picasso really needed like a mate. And this was the way it happened for Picasso. You never know. And for those of you asking me if I'll change his name. No, because if he is a she, if Brando was Marlon Brando's last name. It's not necessarily like a boy or a girl's name. Sounds very much like a male name, but you know, there's lots of females named male things. Brando had a sister. I don't know if he does or anything, but if he did, her last name would be Brando too. Sure, Brando's mom's last name was Brando. Or maybe I don't know enough about Brando and maybe that was a stage name. You got to know some more about Brando, Brando. What do you think? When I was on the phone today with Dawn, one of the store owners, she was like so sweet. She was like, thank you for all the excitement that's come into the store. And we really just want to show you that we appreciate you. So there's something I want to tell you guys. You saw me flight training Brando in a video. And then we came back and Brando's wings were clipped. Wasn't a decision on my part. The store did it. I didn't know they were going to do it. Somebody had noticed that and said, why did you clip the birds wings? And I didn't. Most importantly, what's done is done. I'm not going to make anyone feel bad or blame or anything like that. For me, relationships are extremely important. Would I have liked Brando to have been flighted? Absolutely. I have no reason to clip a baby bird's wings. This is what happened and I just want to address it because I know a lot of you will ask. I did speak to the store about it. Actually, she brought it up because she noticed that someone wrote about it on Instagram. And she said, we're sorry. We didn't know. And we try to keep the birds safe within the store. And if you guys get anything from me at all, it's that things happen. And when you can't change them, you don't attack people. You have to realize, appreciate what good has come of some things. And other things can be a little unfortunate. But Brando's wings will grow back and we will have a flighted Brando. And he will be confident, just like my other birds and just like Picasso was. And that's the story. And I guess the main thing I really want you guys to get out of it is how to handle relationships. It's very important that you approach everything with class and integrity. You just have to understand other people's sides because in this world, I know there's a lot of impassioned parrot people, myself included. But I never like impose my views on anyone without seeing like why did they do a certain thing? Because I'm open to hearing everyone's side. I don't know if that's the actor in me. I don't know if that's the diplomat in me. But it's got to be that way. And you have to like be able to put yourself in people's shoes and just see what it is. Just inquire, be educated, because you just don't know until you walk in somebody else's shoes. I didn't think I would have a baby bird, honestly. And it happened. And I don't think I'll regret it because anything that I do at this point is an opportunity for me to teach and show you guys. And if you guys learned something and learn how to have a better life for your parrots because of me, honestly, the only other bird I want now is Picasso. That would be the most beautiful gift I could ever have in this entire world.  Wouldn't they, Brando? I'm already in my pajamas waiting for George to get the cage done. Yeah? A towel? A towel? So, you need some stands? Okay. Hey, I only have that one moment. Oh, I need some stuff. Let me look what I have. One thing, guys, when you bring home a baby bird or any new bird, obviously, I've told you this before, but before you handle any of your birds after touching, a bird can always want to wash your hands, make sure everything is super clean. You know, disinfect your hands before and after. Just because, you know, baby birds could be susceptible to something, but also your birds could be susceptible to anything that a bird might have had being among all the other baby birds. So, I talked to the store owner about, you know, testing the bird for beacon feather disease, and she said that they're tested, so the bird is okay. But, you know, just to always want to inquire about those things, you know, you can always check for yourself, too. So, that's just one important thing. So, we have this little swing, but we don't expect him to swing on it yet, so that's why you put it close to the perch so that it's stable. And we put this right here. Like, Nelly, she loves to be storefront property, where she can see. And then this, that he can reach his food. This is just a small perch where his small footsies. And we put two toys. We'll find out where he sleeps, where he prefers to sleep. He's got to go to bed now. And another thing is that we can't change his food yet from what they had, because, you know, that's what he's used to eating, so he has to eat that. What puppy is this? Pooper. His first poop. It's okay, baby. This is your new stuff, okay? That's exactly what I was going to say. Like, when you watch them do this, you see where they naturally might need to step. So, that's why I think, like, this might need to be higher. So, by watching all this, you get to see, like, where he falls and where he stumbles and what you might need to add. He's floofing there, and that means that that might be where he feels comfortable. That's not covered enough. His cage has that thing on top. I'm just curious, like, how is he reacting to the cover? Is he still in the same spot? Oh, he's moving. Guys, I hope you enjoyed us bringing Brando home. I want to thank you guys for being on this long, long journey with us. I love you guys so much. I hope you learned something today. Don't forget to check out all my links below. Let me know in the comments what your favorite part of this video was. I love you guys so, so much. What a creeper. I love you guys, too.  Get some VIP status. Remember, my Flighters Club knew about this before everybody else. So, if you just can't wait to know what's going on, that's where it's at. And, of course, guys, check out my new bird food link below. I love you guys. Bye. Somebody's in there. Somebody's in there. Somebody new for you to meet. Are you interested? Maybe I'll show you tomorrow.


From Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, Massachusetts, it's theCUBE, covering VTUG Winter Warmer 2019, brought to you by SiliconANGLE Media. Hi, I'm Stu Miniman, and this is theCUBE at VTUG Winter Warmer 2019 at Gillette Stadium, home of the New England Patriots, the AFC championship team going to the Super Bowl, third year in a row, yet again, Randall, right? Yep, playing against my Los Angeles Rams. So, happy to welcome to the program Randall Hunt, who's a software engineer with AWS. Did a keynote this morning. I believe it was 100 AWS features in 50 minutes and felt like you added a couple more than 100 and went a little over 50 minutes, but... I think we probably hit 57 minutes. That was what the slide counter said, but yeah, I added in a couple of the updates since re-invent, you know, re-invent is not the end of our innovation. We continue releasing new stuff after that. All right, so our program, we're not gonna be showing JavaScript.  I tell you, this show, remember like four years ago, first time AWS presented, we actually had Microsoft and AWS here and people heard Cloud 101.  So, you know, Cloud, we've been there for a decade, but we're still, I believe, you know, day zero, day one is what Amazon always likes to say. It's always day one. It's always day one. So, there's no way we can shove the entire re-invent and keynote into this discussion. So, you know, let's start first. Tell us, Rand, a little bit about yourself, your role, what you work on and what customers you talk to. Sure, so I studied physics and then I found out physicists don't really make any money. So I became a software engineer and I worked at NASA, I worked at SpaceX and worked at this company called MongoDB. Back then it was called Tengen. And then I'm at Amazon. It's my second time around at Amazon. I'm a software engineer there but I'm also a technical evangelist and what that means is I get to travel around the world and make all of the demos and chat with all of our customers and kind of solicit feedback from them and then kind of try to act as the voice of the customer for the service teams. Whenever I can get them to listen. Yeah, so probably not going to go into open source versus software licensing of things with you because we want to make sure that we can publish the interview, but I tell you, space is one of those things. Oh, I love it. When I've interviewed people that have been in space, I've talked to lots of companies that have our code in space. Amazon, you have, I loved, you know, robotics and space are hard and we make it easy and I kind of laugh because I was an engineer as an undergrad. I studied a little bit of, you know, what it takes to break gravity and understand and I always love watching, you know, all the shows about space and track SpaceX, would you work for and things like that? Give me a break. You haven't made space easy. Well, I think space as a whole is getting easier. This industry is becoming more approachable. One of the things that we launched to reinvent this year was ground station and this is something where if you have an S-band or UHF satellite in Leo, which is low Earth orbit or MEO, which is medium Earth orbit, you can basically downstream that data to one of these ground stations, which is essentially attached to a region. In this case, USC's two, which is an Ohio area, and you can go and say, hey, just stream this data into S-3 for me or let me access this from my VPC, which is pretty gnarly if you think about it. You have an IP address, which is a satellite in space. Yeah, I love, I worked on replication technology 15 years ago and it was like, okay, can the application take the ping off the satellite or how do we do this? So, look, we're leveraging satellites a little bit more. I understand it's a great tagline to make those useful and more readily. Just, you know, it's amazing. You think about, when you think about my availability zones and regions, now, you know, things aren't just on the terra firma. Well, I'm looking forward to the first availability zone on the moon or on Mars. That'll be, you know, when we have Utopia Planitia 1A, that'll be, you know, the really cool AZ. All right, we heard of first blue origins working on taking AWS to Mars. No, but... Well, the latency, you know, you have 350,000 kilometers on average between the Earth and the moon. So, you know, you can go around the Earth with speed of light, 7.5 times every second. To go to the moon is a full, I think it's like six, seven seconds or so. So the latency requirements become a little bit harder there. Right now, where am I wrong pin? I have the Grace Hopper nanosecond pin. Which is the... Which is, you know, curled up and if you follow the white thing, it's how long light would take to travel that and it does it in a nanosecond. So, you got me, I'm a physics lover and love space as does a lot of our audience. So bring it down to the thing, one of the things that Amazon has done really well is I don't need to be a physics geek to be able to use this technology. We're having arguments as to, you know, if I'm starting out or if I want to restart my career today, do I go code or heck, you know, let me just use Lambda and all these wonderful things that Amazon have and I might not even need to know traditional coding. I mean, when I learned programming, you know, it was you learned logic and wrote lines of code and then when you went to coding, it's pulling pieces and modifying things and in the future, it seems like serverless goes even further along that spectrum. I definitely think there's opportunities for folks who have just, you know, I don't want to say modest coding abilities, but people who are kind of, you know, industry adjacent, scientists, app, you know, data scientists, folks like that who may not necessarily be software engineers or have the, they couldn't recite big O notation for merge sort and things like that from scratch, you know, but they know how to write basic code. There's a lot of opportunity now for those developers and I'll call them developers to go and write a Lambda function and just have it accomplishing a large portion of their business logic for their whole company. I think the, you know, you have a spectrum of compute options. You have, you know, EC2 on the one side and then you have containers and then as you move towards serverless, you get this, you know, spectrum between Fargate and Lambda and Lambda being the chief level of abstraction, but I think in a couple cases, you can, you know, even go further than that with things like Amplify, which is a service that, well, it's an open source project that we launched and it's also a service that we launched and it takes together a bunch of different AWS services, things like AppSync and Cognito and Lambda and it merges them all together with one CLI call you can go and say, hey, spin up a static site for me, like a Hugo static site or something and it'll build the code pipeline, build all that stuff for you without you having to, you know, worry about all the stuff.  Yeah, it's been interesting to watch too and, you know, I think the last five years, the proliferation of services in AWS got to a point where it was like, oh my gosh, if I wanted to kind of configure a server for my data center or configure an equivalent, something that I wanted at AWS, there was more choices in the public cloud than there was there and people were like, oh my gosh, how do I learn it? How do I do this? But what we start to see is it's more, I don't need to do that because what do I want to do if there's an application that I can run or services that will help make it easier for me to do that because the whole, it's not let me replicate what I was doing here and do it there, but I have to kind of start with a clean sheet of paper and say, okay, well, what's the goal? What data do I need? What applications do I need to build and start there? I'm curious what you see and how do you help companies through that? So this is a really common scenario. So this is kind of a key point here is enterprises and companies have existed since before the cloud was really around. So why do we keep seeing so much uptake? Why do we keep seeing so many customers moving into the cloud? And how do we make it easier for customers to get into the cloud with their existing workloads? So along that same spectrum, if you have Greenfield projects, if I were running my own company and I were doing everything, I would absolutely start in the cloud and I would build everything as kind of cloud native. And if you want to migrate these existing workloads, that's part of one of the things that we launched this year in partnership with VMware is VMware kind of interface for AWS. So you can use your native vCenter and vSphere kind of control plane to access EBS, to access Route 53 and EC2 and all the other kind of underlying stuff that you are interested in running. And I think he could even do RDS on VMware in my environment. So that line is definitely blurring between my stuff and my stuff somewhere else. And when people are talking about migrating workloads, you can take the lowest hanging fruit, the most orthogonal piece of your infrastructure and you can say, hey, let me take this piece as an experimental proof of concept workload and kind of lift and shift it into the cloud. And then let me build the accoutrement, the glue and all the other stuff that kind of is associated with that workload, cloud native. And you'll get additional agility. One ops person can manage this whole suite of things across 19, 20 regions of AWS and it's kind of global availability and all of this kind of good stuff that typically comes with the cloud. And in addition to that, as you keep moving more and more workloads over, it's not like it's a static thing. You can evolve, you can adjust the application, you can add new features and you can build new stuff as you're moving these applications over to the cloud. Yeah, and it's interesting because just the dynamics are changing so much. So there's been, there's still so much movement to the cloud.  So later 2019, we expect Amazon to have, you know, footprint in people's environments and then, you know, just to make things even more complicated. Well, the whole edge computing IoT and the like, which, you know, everything from snowball and these pieces. So the answer is it gets even more complicated. But, you know, your AWS, I know, is trying to help simplify this for users across the board. I think if I can say anything at all about AWS, it's that if a customer is asking us to build something, we are going to do our best to make that customer happy. We take customer feedback so incredibly seriously in all of our meetings, all of our service team meetings, you know, that voice of the customer is very strong. And so if people are saying, hey, I want AWS in my own data center, you know, that's kind of the genesis of outposts and it's this idea that, well, we have this control plane, we have this hardware, let's figure out how we can get it to more customers and customers are saying, hey, I want it in my data center, I want to just be able to plug in some fiber and plug in some power and I want it to work and that's the idea. Miranda, when I think of every company that I've watched, there's usually something that people will gripe about and what I've been very impressed with Amazon, Amazon absolutely listens and moves pretty fast to be able to address things. And if you see, you know, if I'm a competitor of Amazon, I'm like, oh, well, you know, this is the way that we get in there or, you know, where we think we have an advantage. Chances are that Amazon is addressing it, looking to, you know, move past it and, you know, absolutely the Amazon of 2019 is sure not the Amazon of 2018 or, you know, when you thought about it, you know, 2015 and it's a big challenge for people as to because usually I think of something and you never get a second chance to make a first impression, but it changes so much. You know, everything changes that, you know, I need to revisit it, it's like, oh, well, this is the way I do things. Well, Amazon has five different ways you can do that now, you know, which one fits you best. And I think that's important is different applications can have different characteristics that you want to be able to pull in and run in different ways. You know, honestly, I'm a huge fan of serverless. I think serverless is where a ton of different workloads are going to move into the future and I just see more and more companies migrating their existing, you know, everything from elastic mean stock applications to like, you know, VMware images into the serverless environment. And I like seeing that kind of uptick and someone recently, I can't remember who it was, someone sent me a screenshot of their console with their EC2 instances in 2010. And maybe it was part of this 10 year challenge thing on Twitter where it's 2009 versus 2019, but they sent me, you know, their M1 large and the screenshot of the console from back then. And they sent me a screenshot of 2019 and I was like, wow, things really have changed. You don't really notice it as much when you're using it every day, but I can imagine, you know, they're ops teams where they haven't logged into the console in three years because, you know, everything is done kind of in an automated fashion. They set up their auto scaling group, you know, three years ago and then the only time they ever log in is to update to new instance types or something for the cost savings. And I get messages on Twitter sometimes from people who are like, whoa, console got an update, this is so cool. And then sometimes we get messages from people where, you know, we changed the EBS volume snapshotting things. We had somebody who had, he was like 130,000 EBS snapshots or something and they were like, hey, you removed my ability for me to select multiple snapshots at once. It's like, well, you have 130,000. So we went in into the UI and we added a little icon that works better for large groups of snapshots. You know, if there's a customer pain point, we will do everything we can to address it. All right, Reddle Hunt, really appreciate you sharing with us your experience, what's going on with customers and absolutely that 10 year challenge. We know things change fast. We used to measure in decades. I would say now it's usually more like, you know, 18 to 24 months before between everything, you know, changes. AWS in 2029 is going to be crazy. I can't imagine what it's going to look like then. All right, well, the Cube, we started broadcasting from events in 2010. We appreciate you staying with us through 2019. Check out thecube.net for all of our programming. I'm Stu Miniman, thanks so much for watching theCUBE.


Question is from T Evans two two zero eight. Are there any benefits to carb cycling or can it cause a bad relationship with food? Okay, it can cause a bad relationship with food if it turns into restrict binge So if carb cycling for you looks like no carbs and then all the car the carbs at once Then that's a problem other than that. Here's the benefits of carb cycling that I have found personally I don't think it's going to Accelerate or maximize fat loss. I don't think there's any evidence to show that that is superior cycle Than to just have lower carb or just go higher carb. I think the benefits are psychological. I really do I think for a lot of people reducing carbs is a great way to eat a lower calorie diet proteins and fats tend to be more satiating But if you've ever gone on a low carb diet for a long time, you know how your workout start to suffer You don't get good pump is basing Carbohydrates like like adding that to when you're most active is that part of carb cycling or is that called something else? That is that is a type of carb cycle. Okay. Yeah, we're it's like targeted carbohydrate intake Exactly for athletic purposes like that's kind of where I would see, you know Some benefit in terms of how you utilize like accessible fuel like have carbs. Obviously being superior there Well, first of all any diet can cause a bad relationship with food. I don't care what diet, right? So that that's a tough one to answer, right? Like it would could yeah, absolutely could it could for anyway I I love carb cycling I use it Quite often I'd love to teach it to people and I probably agree with you Sal Like it's probably because of the psychological benefits. I just I think It kind of mirrors our natural our natural tendencies of eating and we don't even realize it If you were to take a snapshot of how somebody eats for three weeks consistently that wasn't tracking But you could track for them and see you would see they kind of have this natural ebb and flow probably of carb You're just managing it and controlling it and sticking to to boundaries around that where I think what a lot of people naturally do is they They stay in this kind of load of moderate and they do a bunch of activity They go a long period without eating and everything gets depleted and they get really hungry They get the cravings and then they overdo it like crazy and then they come back down moderately And so I think we kind of naturally do this anyways But doing carb cycling correctly you're obviously figuring out your macros and what a high day a medium day and a low day Would look like you and then you and you said and we should explain that right?  It just it basically means that you're going through periods of lower carbohydrate intake and moderate to higher carbohydrate intake for a specified period of time And I want I want people to know too because I get this question a lot Like how you do that as far as you know, how many days high low and what's the cycle look like? I've actually played around with this and and done it multiple ways and my advice is whatever you'll stick to right like I Personally used to like to have two really really low days a moderate day and then a really high day Repeat yeah, and then repeat I've done it all kinds of ways though where I do a low a medium of high and it's a three-day cycle and you repeat It's really and what I would do is just what felt best with me What how my workouts were going when I was running that way without that low of carbohydrates versus? Allowing a moderate and a high day and only running at three days like you know play with these things There's there are no rules. You just got to figure out how many total calories first your body needs then how many total? Grams of protein it needs so that's where you start and then you look at your your fats and carbohydrates for the rest The makeup of where your calories need to be and divide that and we talk all the time about you know What what exactly should that percentage?  Yeah calorie-wise right gram per gram Yeah, no no not gram for print gram for gram But if you look at I've got after I look at my protein intake, let's say for argument's sake I've got 2,000 calories left to spend I'd like to get about thousand that from fat a thousand that from carbohydrates Figure out how many grams that equals and then divide that over three days and cycle them that way And if you're trying to lean out so that's about a hundred grams of that'd be like 90 grams of fat 150 grams of carbs or something like that and that was just a random Yeah, it's not a real number just so people you know get an idea Yeah, yeah, but I mean so then and then from there you you run one day where you're you know That would be your what your body needs right so a surplus would be a little bit over that I would consider a moderate day kind of hitting hitting your maintenance and then a low day Being you know, maybe 50% less of carbohydrates and the way I would like to do it in the past was kind of what Justin was talking about where it's More targeted so I would have some carbs around my workouts and then on my Higher carb days I would throw in an additional carbohydrate. So I've later in the night I've done something like I love to do this which is similar to that Justin's thinking performance wise I used to think like what I was focusing on like a when I was competing So I would always Keep my either moderate or high days around the muscle groups that I really want to grow and build Yeah, so yeah, you have the energy to pump Yeah, the energy to pump and I have the refeed of all the all those nutrients And it just it felt good to have my moderate to high days around the muscle groups that I'm trying to develop and really push And stretch myself and then muscle groups that are like my arms a strength of mine that I don't I could skip and be okay with I would and when you because we know when you're on really low carb Sometimes you just don't have the oomph to train and so I would pick the days that I would be training You know muscle groups that are not a weakness of mine And then that I wouldn't care if I was didn't have the intensity or the ability to push in those training sessions