Yep, Charlamagne, the guy Andrew Schultz. We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. And today's episode of Brilliant Idiots is brought to you by Squarespace, from websites and online stores. The marketing tools and analytics. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform to build a beautiful online presence and run your business. There are no hidden fees or price hikes and all websites are optimized for mobile. And it's so simple. Start with a design template and use drag and drop tools to make it your own.   Let's start this show. Hezzy! What's up? How you feeling, brother? I'm good, my man, how are you? I am blessed black and highly favored, man. I had a very eventful weekend. How did you have an eventful morning? Morning, oh, this morning was kind of crazy. I wanted you to hear it, but per usual with Taylor, she took the best part out of it. You know? So, just so we can set this up. So many things are going on in this call, in the breakfast club. Oh my God. What is the call initially about? We were talking about paying sexuals. Okay, because Wayne Brady just came out and said that he's a paying sexual. Now, what is a paying sexual? What is paying sexual? There's pot sexuals. There's skillet sexuals. There's a... What else? Walk sexuals. Oh, walk sexuals? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a whole line. Yeah. What?  Yeah, definitely, definitely. Do you think it's possible that we have a walk sexual? Definitely, definitely. Wait till you hear why Chris didn't go to Taiwan. Wait till you hear why the trip got changed to Spain. Just wait till you hear, we'll get back to it in a second. Oh, I'm trying to say for real what it is. We've got some stories to tell, okay? So go on. So, a paying sexual is somebody they say that's attracted to everybody.  So you're attracted to everybody. Yeah, so you like... If you can't get laid, you just take what you can get.  That's it, that's it. Any hole that will let you in, you like. It is kind of like, it is kind of something, it's a level of greed there, right? Or desperation. I don't think it's desperation because that's a fine paying sexuals. Who? Chanel Monay, man. She's the first person I've ever heard say she was paying sexual. I need to see it to believe it. Chanel Monay, fine, bro. But wait, how many different things are there? Cause there's just male and female. The number goes, the number varies, right? I saw up to 68. But what else could you be attracted to? There's male and female. But then there's transgender, there's... Oh, Charlie. What? They're male and female. What do you mean? Whatever they identify, they are. Yeah, but they got different titles and labels, you know what I mean? There's no difference between a trans woman and a woman. So therefore, and sexuals... That's not true, but that's not my fight. Or just bisexual. Yeah, that's not true, but that's not my fight, right? So, yes, in the perfect world... I'm just saying, if... In the perfect world, it would be just bisexual. You'd just buy. Yeah, cause they, oh, and the other one is non-binary. They sleep with non-binary people. Non-binary means that you're not either a man or a woman. Yeah, which is fun. That's the easiest thing to be. That could be fun though. Cause you don't have to prove it at all. What do you have to do? I'm non-binary. Tell the time to oil up your ankles and let your limbs tap.  All I know is...  The funniest thing about the Wayne Brady thing is that Wayne Brady said...   I would think a pansexual is somebody who sexually attracted to pants. They are that. That would make more sense, right? That's what women should be. See what I mean? Like, we've been trying to marry pansexuals for centuries. Right? Now all of a sudden it's popular and they're misconstruing as something else completely. It was interesting that Wayne said he has to do some research still. Like, could you do the research? Didn't do the press release? Like, no? I want you to know you're pansexual. I like roller coasters. How many have you been on? I haven't been driving yet, but they look fun.  I need you up in the guts. Whoa. Yeah, and it's something about... We're summing up in yours. But it's something about the pansexual phrase that doesn't feel like a commitment. The same with the non-binary. It's all, it's like, come on, yo, be about it. What does that mean? I need a commitment. What does non-binary mean? You don't feel like a man every second of the day. Sometimes you feel like a woman. We all been there, you get your toes done. I don't know, but see, I don't like that either because I like getting my toes done. That's what I'm saying.  Come on, son.    That's why I didn't like, well, will I am, because will I am was like, yo, he got feminine traits because he was raised by a woman. Well, he didn't say traits, he just said he's feminine. And I'm like, well, what does that mean exactly? If he's just talking about mannerisms, that could just be sassy. Because there's nothing wrong with having divine feminine traits. Pull up the divine feminine traits. Nurturing, being caring, right? That's what, you know what I'm saying? That might be traditionally feminine, but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't have some of that in you as a man. You want to play with what I am? Where it's all in the same thing. Whatever you think, but we were on to something. Oh, so the Wayne Brady, so yeah, we were talking about the Wayne Brady thing, so we had actual paying sexuals calling up. A lot of people who identified as paying sexual didn't know. They called the breakfast club this morning, one called in particular. She drives, what's it called, one care?  But we didn't know, so she was talking to us about being paying sexual, and then I started hearing these noises. What did you hear in the background? I started hearing these noises, right? I mean, you could insert the audio. All jokes aside, this is not a joke. This is what it was. So I go, do you have one with you now? Like what is going on? And then that's when she told us she drives for one care, and it's the adult disabled people. Can I just ask you a question just because I'm a little bit of a detective here, right? If you're a pansexual, you might be in, one of the things you're attracted to might be people with mental disorders. So do you think that's what she was doing? Do you think that she was? No, I think she was doing a job. You think she was shitting where she eats? Oh yeah, that's not a gender, though. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it's a gender or not. No, I don't. It doesn't matter if it's a gender or not. You would have a good question. What I'm saying is, remember, it's not about the gender. It's pansexual. I'm everything. I'm attracted to everything. Is it? I mean, I don't know. That's a good question. No, it means you're attracted to all the genders, but disability isn't a gender, right? Disability is not a gender.  I identify as a gender. How do we know disability is not a gender? No, no, no, no. How do we know disability is not a gender? Because, bathrooms, men's bathrooms, women's bathrooms, disabled bathrooms. They have the, they have the disabled, disabled, disabled. I'm just saying, that's something you got to take into account. We don't know. Yeah. Pansexual. So babies are attracted to? Say again? Because they got the change in babies. Babies don't got their own bathrooms. Yes, they do. They change the children. They don't have bathrooms. They got a little thing to, to whatever. That's just a train to change them. Yeah. The table to change them. Yeah. That's not their own bathroom. You have a what? Oh, let's hear it. I know you got the audio. I just told you I don't want to listen to it. This is really good. Who cares? We're having a conversation. It'll make the conversation better. I know I believe it, but like I don't understand the inclination to interrupt the fun, to be like, oh, I have the audio. And I know you guys are having fun and being entertaining, but I'd like to put that to a screeching halt. Hey, do you know what gender she is? What? Cause she's top. She's top.  I went to y'all finish our little laughs and that's this one. Y'all little laughs, wow. The point of the show. It's shocking to me you don't have it ready to go. It's unbelievable. It's shocking to me that you're like, hey, I'd like to interrupt the podcast to not be ready for the thing I want y'all to listen to. Andrew, are you okay? Relax. I'm not okay. I was having a time of my life.  You interrupted it.  She called and she snipped on herself on her breakfast club.   Who knows why they were moaning? If you jack off all the time and don't have sex, you're technically a handyman. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You fix the feelings. You know what I'm saying? You fix the feelings. Think about it. You fix the feelings. Oh, I'm trying to fix it. That's another thing they got asexuals. What is that? That means you're not into other people. You're only into yourself. Really? I didn't know that. Listen. It's a lot. All I know is 68 genders. You know, it's a lot. Let's hear it, Taylor. How many flavors have you tried? Pretty much all of them.  You got one with you now?  No. What is that, man? No, I'm a transportation driver. So I have, like, I have, like, people with disabilities that I transport. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. No! Now, you're making sounds. Are you trying to talk to him? Are you trying to communicate to him? I'm trying to have a laugh. The noise. That's my job. Oh, my gosh. Ma'am, maybe you should tend to it in the bus. But let me ask you a question. Yes. Let me ask you a question. So what flavors have you tried? Break down the flavors you've tried. So, like, cisgendered people are like men, women, transgender individuals, non-binary people. Now, cisgender ain't nothing but original recipe women now. Yes, it is. I like this. Ain't no way, bro. Ain't no way, bro. Ain't no way. I'm trying to find a solution. All your endeavor, man. They call her out. They call her out, bro. They're hearing it. They're not testing it.  Imagine they were just hating on a bus driver. That's what it worked for.  We don't know nothing. We don't really, really don't. Let's hear what Will I Am got to say, man, because everybody is tree styling at this point, man. I used to do a father in my life to guide me through that. My mom did that, which probably made me even ultra feminine, which is, I have no shame of being super feminine. What is feminine? I remember in the 90s. That wrist look. That wrist. I didn't see that video. That wrist. That wrist. That wrist. That wrist didn't look a little crazy. We need some blue chew. That wrist looks like it's outside of a goddamn tax place. Why would it be a good question? Just do it. I'm still feminine. I sit the way I sit. I act the way I act. My mannerisms are my mom's. But it was a, it was a very, and I'm strong with my, my, my femininity. Who are they talking to? I think it's a superpower. But, um. Here's the thing, I've never looked at Will I Am and thought Will I Am was feminine. And I really was that the person who was having a conversation with him and maybe they did dug a little deeper because I would like to know what his definition of ultra feminine is. Pull up divine feminine traits Taylor, because I feel like we all have divine feminine traits. Like you have to have the balance of the sacred masculine and the divine feminine. Like, look, where is it at? No, put traits, put traits. You know what the divine feminine is, but put traits, divine feminine, feminine traits.  If you look up divine feminine traits. Emotional, right brain. Action is oriented to the experience of joy rather than an outcome. Emotional strength. Seek self mastery, but is more concerned with sacrifice for the greater, greater good. Extroverted, open, vulnerable and nurturing, cooperative. These are beautiful qualities. Beautiful qualities. Beautiful human beings should have. I don't think that's any, being any of those make him come across feminine. I think some of like the hand gestures and wrist gestures probably would be more so. But even then. We're talking about mannerism. You know what I'm saying? Like is that just sassy though?  That's true. Like you have control of the way. You know, like Italians are very, what's it called? What is it? Expressive with their hands when they talk, right? Yeah. And that's a cultural thing. So yeah, of course he's going to be influenced by, you know, what he saw. But I don't think there's anything wrong in having feminine qualities, bro. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I wish they would have dug a little deeper. Because the way he was describing it, he's literally talking about mannerism, the way I sit. You know, he's like the way I do. What did he say? Did he say the way I do my hand? I mean, he definitely said the way I sit. You know what I mean? The way I talk. That's just mannerisms. Like you can get those just by being around someone. That don't mean that you're actually displaying feminine traits. Exactly. Now, oftentimes you end up, you know, copying or being inspired by the mannerisms of the people that you admire. Yeah.   That is beauty. That is something that I would like to emulate. So they take that on. I think in a lot of ways.  Absolutely. I'm just explaining why a guy who grew up down the block from me in New York with straight parents and went to the same schools as me could have like, you know, the gay accent or whatever it is. Yeah.  And he just admires that and is going to copy that. Yeah. The same way we're like, I'm this white guy. I grew up in New York and I'm using slang. And then people who didn't grow up in these areas are like, oh, why are you talking black? And it's like, well, that's just the way that people talk here. And you grew up in a place where that wasn't the dominant culture.  So you're going to gravitate to whatever the thing you admire the most is or whatever the dominant culture is. Do you think that we have too much conversation going on right now? Meaning that a lot of this stuff that people are trying to work out, they should like work out in therapy amongst themselves first before they bring it to the public. Like when you hear Wayne Brady just come out and say, I'm paying sexual, but I'm still researching it. Or you see what I am, have these conversations about femininity. Don't you think that sometimes people should just work things out with their therapist or their psychiatrist first? And then if they want to share it with the world, they should. Yeah. No. No? Why? Because then we won't have no content. That's not true. We've been making up content for 10 years, bro. Yeah, that's a good point. Give me something to talk about. I can go right now. Water bottle. Water bottle. Easy.  It's soft.  Maybe. You got a pencil to get into your son. It's soft. It's all stuff. It's soft. It's soft. I'm making stuff fit in there. Yeah, you got to fill it up. You know what I'm saying? Why not? Yo, speaking of dicks and getting in a water bottle, Chris had a great vacation. But not to Taiwan. What happened, Chris? What? I'm not coming in off of that intro. You got to revive this. Okay, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. All right.    Now, here's the thing. Chris was supposed to go to Taiwan, okay? You were particularly going to enjoy this. Dr. Chris? Okay. No. Why didn't you end up going to Taiwan, Chris? What happened? Well, so a few months ago, we started trying to book our travel plans. Yeah. And my mother-in-law kept telling us we can't come because the COVID is rising. So I Googled COVID in Taiwan, and the COVID didn't seem to be rising or at least to alarming levels. So we kept saying, well, why can't we come? Can we come? She said, no, the COVID's too bad. Finally, my wife kind of pressed her. And about a month ago, my mother-in-law said basically what's happened is their apartment that she and my father-in-law living in Taiwan has been taken over by ghosts. And if we were to go to the apartment, the ghosts would be transferred from her to us and something terrible would happen to our family in Taiwan. So we said, okay, how about if we come to Taiwan, we don't come inside the apartment. We meet you outside. My father-in-law is very old. He's in his nineties. He can barely move. He's in a wheelchair. So we said, well, we just want to see him. We'll meet you in the courtyard of the building.  The ghosts can't transfer to us. What if the ghosts come with them? That's what she said. She said, the ghosts are going to come. They're going to transfer. And if we even see us, the ghosts will be transferred over to you and something terrible is going to happen. So under no circumstances should you go. Wow. You know, it's very, very difficult for my wife because I mean, to be honest, she's not sure if she's going to see her father again. I mean, he's not in great shape. So I said, look, we're just going to go. We're not worried about ghosts. And we'll just show up and what are they going to do? She said, we're not going. Like it's not happening. Your wife said that? Yeah. So then I said, well, then why don't you ask, can we come over Christmas? Will the ghost still be there? Yes, the ghost of Christmas past. What kind of question is that? What are you talking about? The ghost of Christmas past will absolutely be there. They will be. Well, that's what, no, no. My mother-in-law said, yeah, there's a chance the ghost won't be there in Christmas. Now, how can she tell the ghosts are there? Well, obviously it's all completely...  What are you talking about? Because clearly something's wrong.  Which was my exact reaction. We got to do an intervention. Yes. We got her over there. Something's not right. I mean, there's ghosts in the house, dude. You got to get them out of that house. My wife said, no, my mother has been telling me she's been communicating with ghosts since I was a kid. This is nothing new. So I said, okay. Hold on.  No, no, no. Apparently my mother-in-law has believed she communicates with ghosts since my wife was a kid. This is interesting. I've never heard like the supernatural from the Asians perspective. It's a big part of Chinese culture. I didn't. I knew about like the fantasy world, like with the dragons and everything, but I didn't know about like ghosts. I didn't, man. I'm dead serious. I've never heard this before. It's funny. It is true. They do. They love their dragons. That's what I'm saying. I've never heard this before. Yeah. No, they, like my in-laws believe in reincarnation. Like I sat down with them and their friends and they all told me, like what they had been in past lives. What were they? So my mother-in-law is like a very domineering person and kind of bosses my father-in-law around. Right. And they have a friend who apparently was able to see back into the past and he said what happened was many generations ago, five, six, seven generations ago, your father-in-law was a frog, right? I can see that. In a pond, trapped in a trap. And your mother-in-law was a little girl who came upon the frog and the trap and freedom and now he's indebted to her for, you know, 10 generations or whatever the case may be. And then we were talking to this other dude and he was like, yeah, I led the Chinese army in like 1540 and I was like very influential and taking over like, you know, certain provinces and stuff. And I was just like, okay.   It's not an intervention. I think you guys should go. How can exorcism should have happened? Like you're supposed to do something, going there with some sage, clear the place out. All these spiritual leaders and healers, you know here, Chris, you could have flew somebody over. I can send somebody over there right now. We'll run those spirits out of that apartment. What do the Chinese go afraid of? No. Just curious if we could brainstorm how to get them out of there. What are the Chinese go afraid of?  What if we had haunted wet markets? That's the thing. You know what I'm saying? That's the thing. Like we can really make this into something. This could be a TV show. This could be a movie. What are Chinese go afraid of? How do we get those spirits to pass on to another life? How do we heal their trauma? I don't have the answers. I don't believe in ghosts. Come on, Chris. Hypothetically. You've got to believe in ghosts. You don't believe in ghosts? Why? I've seen a million ghosts. Charlotte knows ghosts. You never seen a ghost, Chris? Charlotte knows ghosts, bro. You never seen a ghost, Chris? All of my piano teacher turned into a demon when I was a kid during practice. Really? I did have that experience where I looked over and her eyes were like fiery and like the entire room kind of went crazy. Really? What were you playing? Something not well. Chopsticks? That's too easy. Thank you. Another week of brilliant ideas. Thank you, Chris. I had to do it. It's just one of the things that had to be done. Yo, Yo Gotti said chopsticks are guns. Yo Gotti's new album, he calls chopsticks guns. Oh, the sticks? Yeah, chopsticks, yeah. Chopper. Oh, a chopper with a stick. Yeah, something called chopsticks. Damn. So what happened after she turned into a demon, Chris? Damn, Chris.   I said, look, we got to go. We got to see what's going on. I tried calling aunts and uncles to get their opinion and they were sort of like just let it go. There it goes, too. Yeah, there it goes, too. Come during Christmas. So we're going to go during Christmas. Why would you come during Christmas? Most haunted. You know what I'm saying? Most haunted. Like, what the hell? They don't celebrate Christmas. It's just another week for them. This is a sad story, man. Wow. This is really sad, Chris. Why is it sad? Because clearly something is wrong. They've gotten to that age where it's like, you know. She's, yeah, she's talking to imaginary things. Oh, no, I agree. I mean, look, they've been locked inside for two plus years since COVID. My father-in-law is essentially an invalid. He hasn't, they haven't left their apartment in two years. So it's not a, it's not a healthy situation. What do you mean they haven't left? How do they get groceries? They have a, like someone who lives with them, a health carrier who goes out and gets groceries. So they just, what? Oh, so they don't have ghosts. They have imaginary friends. Yeah. Like kids do. Like when kids start developing imaginary friends, which I think is so strange, especially when my kids have imaginary friends. I'm like, y'all got sisters. Like he don't say. Imaginary friends.  No, I never had an imaginary friend. I just, I really was those things though. I saw UFO in third grade. Okay. The flying saucer hovering over the trees. Yeah. I absolutely was about to turn into a werewolf. Uh, I forgot what grade that was. Uh, the thing from signs, I saw that standing over me. Okay. As I was sleeping, I felt like the hag was riding me and as I was waking up, I saw the thing from signs standing over me. Okay. Ghosts, seeing a million of ghosts, like please, you know what I mean? Please, Chris. Please. Ghost. Please, Chris. Come on, man. What do you guys suggest I do then? You should have went over there and you should get them out of Taiwan. You can't get them out of Taiwan. That's where they live. And I said, Are the ghosts human? I don't know about that. I don't have any, my wife doesn't like to, you know, I think it's upsetting for her obviously. So she doesn't talk about it that much.  Have you heard this before? Damn, Chris. Talk to them, talking to Mike Taylor? Yeah.  She has been. And I was like, you didn't want to mention that to me before. Why wouldn't y'all believe her? So exactly. Why are you saying that it's something wrong? Right. Cause I'm like, it's a mental illness and we gotta go over and we gotta do something. But then when you put it in the context of someone who's been talking to ghosts for 60, 70 years, maybe it is what it is. The scary part is not that she's been talking to ghosts for 60, 70 years. Now she don't want y'all around. If she's been talking to ghosts for 60, 70 years and had no problem with y'all coming and talking to them before. That's why we gotta take it seriously. That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about that part of it. You communicate with her? Does she speak Asian? Or does she speak English as well? She speaks Asian very well, yes. But does she speak Asian? Chris got a fucking... No, like, does she speak Taiwanese as a language? She speaks Taiwanese as a dialect, Taiwanese, and she also speaks Mandarin. Her English is like minimal. So I really... Right. I'm talking through my wife, which is part of the problem. What are you wearing, Chris? So last time we were over there... Those things work. Yeah. You asked, do I believe in ghosts? Last time over there, my mother-in-law gave me this... I'm wearing a red bracelet with a jade rabbit on it. I have no idea what it represents, but apparently my mother-in-law said, Chris has to wear this or else there could be an accident. Oh, my God!  And I'm not taking it off. I don't know. So you believe in ghosts, too? I'm hedging my bets. Yeah. I'm hedging my bets. I mean, you don't know. I am mad at it.  Who gave it to you? My mother-in-law. She gave me a car. They follow a, like, a Tibetan... He's not Tibetan. He's from Taiwan, but like a tantric Buddhist leader and he had a car. She said, this will stop you from having car crashes. I put it in my car. Why not? What's the... How much is her? That was depressing, man. They should all put it in their car. Bro, that's a good joke. What? What? How's this made a good joke? If that will stop your car from crashing, man, why wouldn't they all put it in their car?  You know what I'm saying? Or that's doing as much as it can There's almost so much of bracelet to do, guys. They're not doing their best. They're not doing their best. Bro... Bro... Yo, have y'all been hearing about all these shark attacks? Yeah, man. I can tell you about... You saw this? I tried to tell you about Fire Island. You were telling me about Fire Island, but in Rockaway, I think it was even today, or yesterday, a woman lost her leg. Yeah, a 50-year-old woman. And by you or different Rockaway? Nice. It's short for New York. Son, why are you saying that? Son, I spent my whole summers at the beach, okay? I ain't see a shark not one time. Sometimes you see dolphins. But literally, I'm in the water every single day in the summer.  I heard about a mako randomly down by, is it called, Long Beach or something like that? Or Robert even down there. Never have I heard of it. I'm hearing on the daily shutting down the beaches, can you go in? I read Wydo. Why? Pull it up to, I can't remember now, but it's something to do with... They're trying to say that water's warm. Yeah, something to do with climate change. Sam, the water been warm.  The water's warm. Let me tell you something, man. I was in Vegas. I think they're overfishing, bro. I'm being honest with you. I think they're overfishing. The sharks are coming because they can smell... It's not even humans. It's garbage.  People leaving stuff in the beach. No, it's the water's cleaner is part of the issue. I heard it's dirty. No, the water's clean. Rockaway is pretty clean. Look at why so many sharks attack the beach. So in Cape Cod, where the biggest number of attacks are taking place, what happened is they put in conservation measures years ago to help protect the seal population. Now, the seal population is all the way back. That's what I heard. In Cape Cod, right?  So the adults are all up in Cape Cod. The reason that people are getting bit on Fire Island, New York City, and not getting killed for the most part is because it's the juvies down here. It's the smaller sharks. But they're all... You're being seen to swim. I even know what he was saying just right now. I thought he said... I thought he said the Jews are nippling at him. Juvenile, bro. Wow.  Yo, come on.   Apologizing, bro. Now, you want to blame for shark attacks? Come on, bro. Goddamn, Chris. Listen, you said that with so many other things, the climate change is the blame. So here's my thing about the climate change thing. If I was big fishing or whatever that is, you know how there's big pharma, big whatever, I wouldn't want you to say that the overfishing of the seas is causing the shark attacks.  I don't think it's such thing as overfishing you. Bro, they... Maybe a certain type of fish. Son, there was that documentary that came out.  I know you're talking about... Exactly what you're talking about, fish. No, no, this is the one that was recently, it was on Netflix and it was about the overfishing and what the fishing community or what the big fish does where, like, they make you think that it's straws that are polluting the ocean where 90% of the ocean polluting is the wire in the line from these big fishing boats. And so they just basically, what I'm thinking they're doing here is just take the attention off the real problem on a tiny micro problem that we can all feel good about doing. Like, Dolphin Safe Tuna is another label, right, that you put on tuna when you buy it at the store, you're like, okay, good, they didn't kill any dolphins when they're doing this. The same people that run Dolphin Safe Tuna are the fishing industries. Right. So they're just creating this loophole for their business. The whole thing is forgazing.   I've heard about that. Yeah. You've never heard about that? Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Climate change is real as a motherfucker, yo. I was in Dallas on Friday and Vegas on Sunday and Monday.  And I thought Dallas was hot. Dallas was like... Now Vegas in the summer, bro. It's the desert. Bro, it was 117. But that's what it is. Yeah. That's what Vegas is. No, they say that's not normal. 117. Like, this was the hottest summer on record, but still Vegas in the summer. They was like, it's hot, but they was like, it's ridiculous. I'm one of the drivers that was driving me. I'm like, man, it's hot as a motherfucker.  He goes, only if I go outside.    It's not supposed to be that hot, bro. It's not supposed to be 117 degrees. And it's like a heat that literally makes you feel like you got to catch your breath. Yeah. You know what I mean? It makes you feel exhausted to be out. Yeah, you're suffering. Oh, my God. Who wants to be out in that, man? What were you in Vegas for? I went, you know, they do the magic fashion show every year. Oh, yeah. And I don't know, man. I just been like, my dude, Don Juan Jarrell, he's a fashion designer. He's been behind some like really big brands like PRPS. Yeah.   And man, I really just wanted to go see a different level of creativity. Because you know, when you in entertainment, you know, you see the same kind of creative a lot. You know what I'm saying? Like, especially in what we do, it's like personalities.  I wanted to see a different type of creativity because, you know, their attention to detail the way that they design clothes, everything down to like the zippers and the scenes and all of that stuff. I just wanted to soak up some of that energy and actually it was, it was better than, it was way better than I even imagined. You know what I mean? Just being around there kicking it with like, my man, Ty Mopkins was there. You know, he works at Starter. So he designs a lot of stuff with Starter and just running into all of these different designers. You know what I mean?  I think we pay attention to detail. I don't know if we pay attention to detail as much as people that design clothes. Yeah. Because think about it, I'm talking about like this shit, like the stitching in the pockets, the zippers and like, they're thinking about every little intricate detail and it was just very, very interesting to see. And not only that, man, when you have conversations with people like the Don Wands or like the, you know, my man Tony who used to be behind Aniche and Mecca, the money that these guys make when they sell these brands. Oh yeah, that's insane. Nothing like it. And you know, some of them sell to brands but still keep royalties. You know what I mean?  Everyone in the world has to wear clothing.  It's literally illegal to not wear clothing. It's kind of wild.  And everybody wants to be fly, right? To some extent. Self expression for sure. You know what I mean? So it's just like, just to see all of these people that can tap into like the human psyche even listening to them describe what sells and why. And how things sell and why people buy things and how like the biggest influences of fashion now are the athletes. It's not even like the rappers or the models almost the athletes. Like it's like, they said that dude from the Oklahoma city thunder shy. What's the last name? What's the name? Gilchrist. I thought it was Alexander or something. I can't remember the best name.  Canadian kid. It's like he's the biggest fashion icon. There's like anything he wears. It's literally just them walking in the games. You know what I mean? I feel like they take more risk with the fashion because I pay attention to what the artist is. Interesting. They take a lot of risk. They walk out for a couple of seconds. They either get praised for it or they get made fun of it. They get killed. The next game they just, hey, I got to do over. So if you had the project show in Vegas, go check out BOOF 83700 and 83800. That's my man Don. He's got the Art Meets Chaos and Legacy of Resilience stuff out there. Yeah, the fashion is so interesting to me because it's all hype. Like it's literally 100% hype. You could be the most beautiful designer in the world and design the most beautiful skinny jean that's ever been designed with the perfect stitching, the perfect color, the perfect everything. If skinny jeans are not in. Don't matter. Your clothing is worthless. That's right. So it is the most fascinating case study when you look into the success of brands because it is 100% built on the hype that you can create around it. Yes, there are items that can look amazing but if they're not in, people don't want to wear it. Because people don't trust themselves. Of course. Like you got to be able to, like the risk taker like Alex was just talking about if you see like a Russell Westbrook or a Shy or Dwayne Wayne people and you're like, damn, he did it. Now she look dope. Now I'm going to try it. But some people are afraid to step out on their own first when it comes to fashion. So 100%. And now here's another thing that happens that's interesting about fashion is that what makes something cool is that it is different and oftentimes opposite of what is mainstream and popular. That's right. So when skinny jeans are popular, right? Everybody's wearing them. You could buy them in every single store. Even the biggest stores are making the skinny jeans.  That's right. And then in order to be cool again, you need to reject baggy and then skinny jeans are popular. And if you look at fashion over the last 100 years, it is a literal circle. That's all the good. Skinny, wide, skinny, wide. When we were kids, Jinko jeans, the bag baggy jeans, those are back. I see young kids wearing these big baggy jeans now. So when I say that it's all hype, I don't mean that in terms of these people aren't artists in what they can create. They are. But you can create, especially streetwear, you can create hype around something that costs nothing to make. Nothing. It can be a t-shirt that has a little rip on it. $500. Yeah. Because that's what's in. Yeah. Kanye. Man, speaking of Kanye. Think he's back? No. Dita said they're not doing business with him ever again. Pull that up.  Pull up God's hand. Now you're right. After they sold all this inventory. I told y'all they were never back in business together. But they were saying from day one, they needed to sell the back inventory. Now the back inventory is sold. They're donating like 140 million to charity. Because that's how much they made off it. And the Dita CEO says 400 million year olds. How much money is that? A Dita CEO. Jesus Christ. I think they're dumb by not getting back in the business with him. Oh, a Ditas is. Because he's doing this slow launch.  Yeah, but that's different though. That's music. But I'm just saying. That's a slow launch back into the public eye. No, music is the one place where people cannot be canceled. It's like comedy. Music and comedy the same thing.  But when it comes to that music or it comes to getting on that stage, you can't stop that person. When it comes to getting in that studio, you can't stop that person. Once Kanye makes another hit, we gonna forget the stuff that he said before. And now he's going to have his influence back. But you know who's not going to forget? The people who create the bottom line for goddamn Adidas.  It's never going to happen. Oh, I think. Adidas CEO put Google that. Adidas CEO said, because you're looking at something old. It doesn't matter. The point is, the point is that I don't think any big corporation like Adidas will do business with Kanye anymore. I think it's going to be some corporation that's like really struggling and it's worth taking the risk or a much smaller version, or he'll put his own money up. Maybe international like care less about it. But still, I think that what those corporations would be concerned about is just how erratic his behavior is. So it's like, I don't know if I can go into business with somebody that's just going to behave in this manner. He's a liability. He is a liability. He's a liability. Because he wants to behave as if he owns the company, but he wants deals with all upside and protection of not owning the company. And when you're the company and you're signing somebody, you need them to behave in a way that's, you know, according to the morality or the virtues of that business. It's just what it is. And it's so interesting what you were saying just now about people saying, you said people can make your brand whack, right? Clearly it's not working with Adidas, but boy, Drake is trying. Drake has been trying to make the Yeezy's whack for a while. Really?  You know, that's another one. Or just recently at his concert, he was like, yo, I'll be pointed at the girl.  You know, even though you weigh in them Yeezy's. My man, I like this. I like this thing. Half of the blue tea. Yeah. I feel you, y'all. You look good. Even though you got those Yeezy's on, still look good. You know what I'm saying? So he's trying his hardest. Yeah. You know? He really is. Yeah.  Like, but yeah, Adidas not getting back in bed with Kanye.  You know what I'm saying? That's really all this boils down to me wanting to put that out there. Let everybody know. Yeah.  You know what I mean? And speaking of anti-Semitism. What did you think of the Jamie Fox thing?  I agree. I cannot believe that Jamie was pushed in any way. To apologize. To apologize. You should never have to apologize for someone else misinterpreting what you said based on their paranoia and anxiety. This is a commonly used term. The term is biblical in nature. That's right. For God's reason. God is saying, hey, it can be your closest friends that might stab you in the back. That's right. That's the messaging. The story is your best friend, the one that you love, the one that you cared about, the one that you fed, might be the person that gives you up. So be careful the company you keep.  So what are they going to do to you? They talked about Jesus. So what are they going to do to you? They even killed Jesus. So why wouldn't they kill you? It's inspiration. Have I ever thought to myself, oh, that's the day. It's the Jewish people. It's never been a thing. We're talking about haters. Also people. Also, also, also. Haters. They're talking about the Jewish vibe to the fact that this is meant to be about the Jews, right? Sure. And I'm assuming it's only Jews that think this, right? I mean, I read the comment and didn't even cross my mind. Of course.  Who's never given you any reason to think that before. It's just absurd. But if you're thinking that he's talking about the Jews, right?  Not the Romans, which is the commonly accepted history, which Jews often reference, hey, it wasn't us. The Romans did it. They did all the thing. They did the discipline, et cetera. So which one is it? Is it the Jewish people that are saying this anti-Semitic? Which one is it?  Because that's what you're implying. Right. Because if it's, if the Jews didn't kill Jesus, which is what these people are saying and what they're commonly accepted, it was the Romans, then even if he did mean they by a group, it would be the Romans. In no way could you connect this to a Jews. So I think that whoever made a big think about this owes Jamie a massive apology.  That's what Jesus would want.  That's it. Jesus would tell you when somebody throws some evil energy at you, reply with some good energy. Jamie is just a kind hearted person. Also the self absorption. Is that the word I'm looking for? To someone who just comes out of a life threatening situation. And then immediately after that, once to let people know, hey, those people that you think are with you in your camp, sometimes they're not.  And then he comes out of this life threatening situation. And then he's like, yo, I was just in it. Watch your back. By the way. Because you will find out. And then to make that about you.  Yo, 50 Cent and Junior got a song called They Hated on Jesus. Cat Williams had a song called They Hated on Jesus.  But you know who the person he was talking about? Judas. They're not talking about Jews. They're talking about Judas.  You know what I mean? So I think Jennifer Aniston got trolled. Well, well, I think somebody trolled her. I can't wait till we talk about Jennifer Aniston. I think she liked it.  I think she liked this post. Because she read it like all of us did. Like everybody else did. It was like, that's right. Mother fuckers. That's right.  Everybody trolled her. Either started tweeting her crazy. 100%. Or left leaving comments that made her just, dude, this is dangerous that what she did. And then she comes out and then goes, I do not support antisemitism in any way.  Come on. Right after he comes out of this life-threatening situation. This man is stressed out. That woman's evil, bro. That's an evil woman.  That's an evil woman. You know what I'm saying? He just went through something that could be considered fatal. Yeah. And you just going, mother fucking, put more stress on him. You know what I'm saying? Nah, bro. Jesus Christ. Where is Jamie's apology, Jennifer? Yo, Jennifer needs to give Jamie an apology. And any people that were saying that what he did was antisemitic and trying to like fan the flames of that, they need to give Jamie an apology as well.  No way did I mean this. Well, who was it that had a problem with it? That's my point. That's why I think Jennifer Anderson got trolled. But I'm saying he obviously reacted to something. Was it the ADL? No, Jennifer posted that. And I guess when Jennifer... What's the chronology? What's the order of the day? This is what I saw. I saw Jamie's post. Right. Which I read and it didn't do me anything because I've heard that a million times, right? And then I saw Jennifer's reply.  This isn't anti-Semitic. Bro, and you know what it is? I think somebody trolled Jennifer. This place is a wider frame, which focuses on Jewish issues, described Fox's post as horrifically anti-Semitic. What is a wider frame? It's a, I don't know, I imagine some blog or something. You've never heard of it? Nobody's ever heard of it. But the point is... In the Jewish community, it's probably a big blog. I know a lot of big blogs in the Jewish community. I've never heard a wider frame. Even if it's not a big blog, all it needs to be is a blog. And then it starts that momentum. Other people cover it. And of course, you want to see a celebrity go down so they're all going to attack him. But I guess what I'm trying to say is like pointing, calling something like this horrifically anti-Semitic.  That's right.  How can you even compare the two?  People are going to, when you call this horrifically anti-Semitic, you're going to start desensitizing people to the term horrifically anti-Semitic. The boy who cried woke. The girl who cried woke. You know what I'm saying? Because this is what's crazy to me. It says for some... Jamie needs an apology from a wider frame, y'all. A wider frame, you need to apologize today. That's right. These guys have called out another post by Cardi B, which is pretty outrageous. I'm not going to lie. What's the post? She said... I guess when she threw the mic and found out she wasn't going to get charged for it, she tweeted, lawyer's a Jew, he's going to chew up all the charges. But she posted a picture of like two acidic guys in the hats and the sideburns walking down the street. Cardi didn't do that. She didn't do that. She didn't do that. She did that? I can't defend that. I don't know anything about that. I don't even know a acidic lawyer. Thank you. So she just Googled a picture of some stereotypical Jewish people. She was like, what? They're reading the Torah and the Talmud. They're practicing all day. They're not involved in law. They're not involved in law like that. You've now, that being said, if you're going to have a good lawyer... You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? If you want a good lawyer... By the way... Listen, there are options for lawyers out there. But talk about what she wants. When Cardi's saying that, that's not even new. Right. There's so many people who have said that prior to her. What did 50 Cent used to call his legal team? I don't know. Jew unit. Oh, really? Yes. He used to say that all the time. That's what he used to literally call his legal team. This is not new. What Cardi even did and said is not new. Now, I don't think that's anti-Semitic. Would it be considered... This is what I would say. It's not worth defending what she did. If you're getting into the argument of what's anti-Semitic and what's not, what Jamie did isn't even close to anti-Semitic. It's not even in the same galaxy as anti-Semitism. It actually has nothing to do with the Jews. Right? This is specifically targeted and there is a stereotype that is used. The picture is crazy. And the picture doesn't even match up to what her legal team would look like.  You know what else fits me up about the genocide? I think what a lot of things that people realize is, if I was to make the argument, is when you come from poverty, the position of lawyer is admirable. It's someone successful. It's someone who is providing for their family. It's a citizen who obeys the law. So calling a group of people lawyers is like calling a group of people doctors. It's like calling a group of people scientists. Right?  You're going, I'm giving them a compliment. I only knew five jobs that were respectful. It was lawyer, doctor, teacher, whatever. But don't we do that with everything? With doctors, don't we say Indians? Exactly, that's what I'm saying. I don't think that in their mind, they believe there's anything offensive about it because they're using it as a compliment. Hey, look at the legacy of this group of people and how they have these high ranking positions in culture and society. McCarty wowed out with the picture, though. The picture's great. Inaccurate. She's met her lawyer. He probably looks like me. He doesn't look like Hasid. So to throw it all in the same thing. No.  See, y'all don't be reading. Click on the message. Click on the message, Taylor. Click on the message. It says, this really makes me sick. I did not like this post on purpose or by accident.  Why did not like this post on purpose or by accident? So Mark Zuckerberg liked it for you.  That sounds like Tory Lane saying, hey, or Tory Lane's lawyer saying, hey, he's got an alcohol problem and he had trauma as a child. But Tory, you didn't admit to doing anything. You didn't admit to doing anything.  I do not support any form of anti-Semitism and I truly don't tolerate hate of any kind of period. None of us do, especially Jamie. We got to stop doing this to people, man. It's like, yo, clearly Jennifer and Jamie have zero relationship. But it's just wack that we just keep putting these labels on people for nothing. It's also so selfish. If you're a group of people, like the Jews who have been persecuted for literally thousands of years, right? You would understand that doing something like this for clicks is only going to hurt that cause. And it's selfish. It's like, oh, we can get some clicks here. Us, this little blog, whatever it is, can get a little bit of attention. It's the cost of the attention. The cost of the attention is people going, oh, we don't have to take it seriously when they cry anti-Semitism. That's the cost. That's how selfish that is. If you were really concerned about the Jewish community, you would make sure to push your efforts towards the very real anti-Semitism that is happening on a daily basis. And please believe you do not have to look far. You do not have to look far.  It's wagging a fan. That's why I never watched Sex in the City. Why is a Jewish lawyer offensive? I don't think it is. I think putting a picture of his said. No, not in the picture.  It's tall black. Basketball player. You're like, why? Cause I'm tall and I'm black. I have to play basketball. Nah, bro, I thought it would be cool if you play basketball. I love basketball players. I admire basketball players. I didn't think calling you one would be offensive. And you're like, yeah, but just cause I'm black, that means I gotta play basketball. It's one of these types of like, I don't want to say like racism. It's one of these types of, and even hate is like a strong word, where the person doing it truly doesn't feel any hate. But the person receiving it goes, you know what I mean? You're making me feel away. I'm a proctologist. If I'm first class somewhere and somebody, somebody be like, you rap? People don't see people come on the plane and say, oh, what's up? You rap? No, I'm a world war non-proctologist. See, you do that. All the time. Did it yesterday.  So are you a rapper? That person genuinely is excited to be a rapper. But they don't realize that they're internal like racism. I wouldn't even call it racism. They're internal, what is it called? It's not bias. Stereotyping or prejudice.  They're immediately serving black wealth rap. Or sports.  It just sucks that they assume that about all the people that look like it. He's like, what you doing this weekend? You performing? And like, I can't even, I'm not mad at that.  It's a rich, affluent position that people admire just like a lawyer, but at the same time it's like, yo, we can do other things than that. We're not all just lawyers. I can see the frustration. I think if most Jews are being honest, I mean, within the Jewish community, being a lawyer or a doctor is what you're pushed towards in a lot of cases. So let's be honest. So it's probably a reminder that you failed.  Exactly. No, Jennifer Aniston need to apologize. We're boycotting it, bro. She's not my friend. No, she was on Seinfeld. We're boycotting Seinfeld. What else is she in? She was definitely on Sex in the City. I know she was on Seinfeld. Yeah, she was on Full House. She was Jesse's wife. We're boycotting that. We're boycotting. What's that, high school musical I think she was in that? We're boycotting that. She was Sue Storm in one of those old fantastic four movies, too. Definitely boycotting all the fantastic four movies. That's crazy, yo. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some bills, yo.  Salute to Audible, a proud business partner of Audible, man. I love Audible.  Respect the movement, respect the moment, celebrate storytellers. Hear brand new hip-hop memoirs, podcasts, and exclusive musical performances on Audible free all summer long. All volumes from Audible's groundbreaking words and music series including Snoop Dogg's From the Screech to the Sweets and Yassine Bay's a dynamic career in communications. 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Okay, depending on when this episode comes out but by the time it comes out it will be on sale. Go get them. The pre-sale code is Andrew. We're coming to Perth, November 13th. Adelaide, November 15th. Melbourne, November 16th. Sydney, November 18th. And Brisbane, November 19th. Very excited. It's been too long. I love you. Coke obsessed degenerates. They do so much Coke in Australia. It's unbelievable. More cocaine in Australia than any other place in the world. They're obsessed with cocaine. And they spend, and it's like if cocaine in America is like $100 a gram it's $300 a gram over there. So it's like they weed it over there? It is unbelievable the amount. They love it. Really? Where are they getting it from? I think it's hard to get there because it's so remote right and that's probably why it's so expensive. Where'd you get this from? I did a lot of Coke when I was in Australia.  You get over that jet lag, you know? You got you. Australia, I'm going to see you guys there. Also, more dates that we have or other shows are all up at theadreshows.com full lineup of shows that have been announced already are there. See you soon in a life tour. Peace. One more thing I want to tell y'all. This Saturday I'm having my annual back to school driving fish fry at Berkeley High School in the Student Park, Student Parking Light OK, 406 West Main Street, Montecorne, South Carolina. It is from 12 to 3 p.m. while supplies last. We got free food free backpacks and school supplies and free haircuts. OK, so this Saturday from 12 to 3 Berkeley High School, Student Parking Light my annual back to school driving fish fry and I do want to shout out my girl Angela, man. I want to salute my home girl, Angela. Let's do it. This is her brand Carviva you know and Carviva, I mean it's available on Amazon but now it's also available in a stop and shop. Oh cool. You know what I'm saying? So salute to her. What is it? It is a detox drink. I mean she has a bunch of different ones. This one right here is anti-oxidant juice. This is actually for detox and it's plant based you know? Great. So it has higher than three and a half cups of blueberries. So if you want to know people that like to do blueberries every day you know because you know it's a good anti-oxidant. You just drink one of these Carviva detox. This is the great Kiwi man and I just love what Angela is doing man. She's just a beautiful you know Asian woman who's out here hustling and this is in stop and shop right now and I can't wait until one day you know some company comes and buys Carviva for a couple of billion dollars you know? All you companies that want to do plant based juices Angela got it figured out so go support my people's. Alright now let's get back to the show. What we got? Oh that Montgomery Alabama fight. According to witnesses the bra started when a pontoon boat stopped at the riverfront preventing a riverboat from docking there and footage shared to social media several white people who were on board the pontoon boat are seen attacking a single black man who was allegedly a dock worker. Additional footage shows multiple black men and women coming to the workers defense Montgomery police said they responded to the disturbance at 7 p.m. and the rest of several of those involved charges are currently pending. What were your thoughts Schultz?   He jumps from the riverboat. Jumps in to help him. 16 That was so cool. What I really liked about that is once he got over there I like seeing the footage of him fight and I'm just sitting there thinking like bro I can't even swim. The fact that he swam all the way over there then climbed up on the dock and still had the power to body slam somebody. And the cardio. That's what I'm saying. You don't want to fight that man. You don't want to fight him. This was um this was very interesting to watch. Did it feel good as a black dude? Did it feel good? I'll tell you what felt good. Come into support of a person that they didn't even know. But they saw him getting jumped. That's what felt good. I thought it was pretty beautiful. The unity and the solidarity and the group operation that was showed that's what felt good. And putting yourself in harm's way it's like dangerous. These people are fighting. What? You don't even know the guy. And there's guns. White people could have easily had guns in them. Goddamn both. Black people too. I'll tell you who lost in this whole thing. Crocs, bro. Crocs are supposed to be very durable. Crocs are supposed to be something that people put on and they can go through any terrain. Can't fight in Crocs, yo. Pull up a still picture at those Crocs, yo. Yes, crazy.   That's a him. That wasn't a guy. You got titties, but it's him. Yo, the whole time I thought that was a girl. I know you did. So hold on, a girl threw him in the water then. There was a woman fighting him. Yep, probably did.  Like, Goddamn. And keep in mind here, if anybody doesn't know the story, hold on, everybody thought this was a white woman. Look, it says white lady gets beat out of her Crocs. I thought it was a woman. Could be a woman, you never know. It could be a woman. I guess just to let everybody know the context, especially people who are foreign, like the white dudes were on a boat, they were asked to move by the security guard. And then they refused to move and then they jumped the security guard.  And that's my thing, right?  You know he's drunk. Why would you allow him to just start swinging on the security guard like that?  They just see that guy fighting. Yo, my man throwing that hat. That hat was so fire. Why did they allow this dude to do that to the security guard? Like, at what point, like, you see, these guys just come out of nowhere. They just, like, no, figure out who's in the wrong here. My man who jumped in the water. Nah, but you see a man fighting, like, you just gonna fight. You don't got time to ask questions. It depends. You see a man fight, even if your man is in the wrong. That's not the first time that guy has done that, Alex. Alex, that's not the first time that guy has jumped on somebody like that.  That's that guy. Because there's no way you just start swinging on the security guard like that.  It's a one on one. I'm not gonna let my drunk friend even get to the point of fighting. I just pull up and they jump in my friend and I don't even know that he was... I don't even know what's going on. That's right. It's on. But if you know how drunk he is, you know you're in the wrong.  That's right. You caused all of this. That one dude, he's Peter Quillio. He's Peter Quillio at the end of the endgame.  They had it ready to go. The person with the blonde hair, that's a woman. The one with the blonde hair. You see her?   Look, she's swinging on him. The only thing I didn't feel good was... Look, look. That's a woman. That's fire.  You said the only thing that didn't feel good was what, Alex? The dude that hit a woman with a chair. He just got caught up. That was a lot. You sound like Travis Scott in Rome saying, There would be no utopia without Kanye. There would be no Travis Scott without Kanye. There would be no Rome without Kanye. It's like, okay. All right. There was Rome. This is what you don't want. This ain't no old man's friend, bro. You don't want them old men...  I'm telling you that right now. Those are sender blocks he's getting hit with.  Boom.  Watch how you just wax this woman for no reason. Why? And then cops like, all right now.   You just went too far down. You just escalated it for no goddamn reason. This is funny too.  Watch her. Watch her.   Back up, Martha Stewart.   And it's going to be a lot of arrest from this. I'm telling you all that right now. Because, you know, the reality of the situation is there's a lot of self-defense here. There's a lot of assault here. You know what I mean? There's going to be people that get arrested on both sides. All right? All right. Okay. And by the way, those are the consequences and the risk that you take when you're standing up for people. It's just that simple. That's not real, Taylor. I didn't think so.  Son of a... I would like to think that. Why, no, why is he not fighting? You are not helping? No, I've been helping. Nah, you'd have got beat up. You'd have got beat up. I definitely wouldn't have jumped in the water. If I had to jump in the water to help, I'd have just pulled out my phone. I'd have been that guy. Get him! Got him! There you go, King! Go, King! I saw Martha Stewart yesterday on the plane. What? She's pretty still, man. She's like 80 years old. And she's beautiful. Martha's interested because the Greeders hate her. Why? That was just the conversation the Greeders was having with us. One of the Greeders asked one of the Greeders they asked who they wanted to do. Me and Martha because he's on the same flight. And she chose me. Because she said I've worked with Martha before. And it ain't like that. She's so mean.  The Greeders was like the point of a Greeders to have great relationships with people at the airport.  She was like if you have somebody who's not nice to these people it makes you look bad. You know what I mean? Now you can't have those relationships at the airport. Martha was very pleasant on the plane. She was pleasant. She spoke to me and everything. I don't know if that's real or not. I think that's somebody playing. Yeah, I don't think that's real. That's not real. I mean... That's real good. How old would you know how old the person is?  I don't believe that's the guy. Click it. Well...  Let me tell you something, man.  You know what I mean? A young boy.   He was just chilling on the porch trying to drink mine. He kept flicking his hat. If he did it like three or four times it wasn't no words.  After about that third or fourth flick it was like a pit bull literally latched on to somebody's leg. Like the weightest old man dove on this young boy and just had him pinned to where the young boy couldn't do nothing but take the blows. Oh, it was bad. And trying to pull him off was like trying to lift Thor's hammer. What's not...  Nothing he could do but take that out, man. Nothing he could do. What else we got, Taylor Gang? No, I didn't go see Beyoncé. I was tired, man. I was emotionally drained from the Earl Spence Crawford fight. Still? Yeah, I was going to... No, it was the day after. I was going to go see Beyoncé that Sunday. It was amazing. You're going to see it, right? No, I'm going to see White Beyoncé. Who's the White Beyoncé? Taylor Swift. Come on, bro. You already know who the White Beyoncé is. Taylor Swift? You're right. That is disrespectful. She's way bigger than Beyoncé. Taylor Swiftie? You can't possibly compare Taylor Swift to Beyoncé. Come on. Taylor? That's a good one. That is a good one. Because Taylor sells more... I believe Taylor sells more records. Sells more records, sells more tickets, does more everything. I think the tickets have been kind of even this summer. Not even close. Yeah, it is. You sure? Yeah. The Fed commented on it. They're like... She has changed the US economy. That's crazy. I read something about Beyoncé's show with grossing big numbers too, though. Her show did gross crazy numbers, but Taylor... I know Taylor was killing too, though. How many shows did Beyoncé do at MetLife? Two. Two. Taylor will do four at the Dallas Cowboys Stadium. Yeah, her... She might be able to, but she's not doing it on this tour. I heard people are buying tickets for Taylor's show in South America. Because it's cheaper to buy a flight and pay for the tickets down there than it is to get a ticket over there. Oh, no. Yeah, Beyoncé. I don't even think Beyoncé... Ain't nobody flying in Brazil to watch Beyoncé. Come on, yo. I mean, they were. But yeah, Taylor... Taylor got the number one tour this summer. It's not even close. It's really not, because second... You know who second is? Bruce Springsteen in the East Creek band. Well, where's the... The Harry Styles in Elton John. No, the weekend. The weekend is crushing. Air is number five. Red Hot Chili Peppers is number six. Coldplay is number seven. Danny Yankee is number eight. Oh, Kevin Hart is number nine. This might be American artists. He's number nine. Bad Bunny is number ten. It's the top ten... Yeah, top ten highest grossing live concert tours. Oh, this is of 2023, not of this summer. But still.  The most people that have ever been out to a weekend in shows in London. Like, his show's crazy.   Yeah, let's do an ad then. Why do people like Taylor Swift so much? What is it about her? Taylor. She's talented at music. She's talented at music. She also speaks for a generation. Yeah, there's a lot of white people. Yeah, there's a lot of white people. I also think that... I mean, I've been forced to listen to her entire catalog. I don't think musically she stands out. None of the songs stick with me. But there's no denying the impact she has on... No, let me finish. Let me finish. I think what it is is she talks about young romance in a way that's so much different than a lot of the hip hop out there, which is all sex, like, super explicit. Which one? We did this on Flagrant. We could play 20 Taylor songs that you know every word to the chorus. Without even realizing you do. You as well. I don't think they're great songs. I don't think they're great songs. But there's no question that kids, teenagers relate to her in a way that's undeniable. Especially white girls. And I'm going to tell you something else that she did that we don't... I don't know if it's something to give credit for. But she absolutely played the sympathy card with that remake album. What she re-recorded all her her master's, you know what I mean? She really made it look like... Sympathy is her game. That's what I'm saying. When you redefine details of that situation, nobody stole her publishing. Not even close. Scooting them even gave her the opportunity to buy it back. Dad even got paid. They all got paid from it. But she re-recorded her songs. Put that album out. That's kind of what propelled this summer tour. If we're being honest. Because it had everybody reintroduced to the songs that they absolutely love. 100%. That has been flipped and shopped and screwed in a way to make Scooter look bad. And if you actually look into it, it's not even close. It's really not even close. Ed Sheeran and Elton John have the biggest tours on record. Here's why Beyoncé and Taylor Swift could beat them. That's insane. Damn. I want to see Ed Sheeran in the show. I saw him at the garden now twice. He would love for y'all to come out. You know you listen to Breering Idiots. Shout out to you Ed. You were fantastic at Madison Square Garden when I saw you many years ago.  Nah, he just left. He had the highest attendance ever at MetLife this summer. Ever. Today's episode of Breering Idiots is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform for building your brand and growing your business online. Stand out with a beautiful website, engage with your audience and sell anything, your products, content you create, and even your time. Squarespace makes it easy for creators to monetize their content and expertise in a way that fits their brand. 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The fact that she didn't even remotely try to stick up for her namesync.  I know. Your mama named you Taylor after Taylor Swift. Of course she did. Yo, it's the truth. Taylor Swift. Either my mother or father stopped because I was named after my great-grandma. So stop your great-grandma. Your great-grandma was named after Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift is a legend. Is she a clone? She's a time traveler. You think you just get that successful? She's been here before. Wrote all those songs over a century. Exactly.   Taylor, she's a very sweet girl. I might hear before, but... At the station. I never forget when Taylor Swift first came out and we were new to MTV and me and Duvall was up at... We was up at Times Square and it was all these kids going crazy.  And they were like, you don't know who Taylor Swift is. Just like you don't know who Gucci Man is. He's right though. And I know who Taylor Swift was at the time. What else we got? Let's do some asking nitty-nittys, Taylor. Let's see what we got here. Have you seen they clone Tyrone yet? No, good. I enjoyed it. I watched it a few times. Really? I need to watch it. Broker PJ said based off the movie we can move or kill it. Depending on what the purpose of the clone was. It depends on what purpose the clone served. You know? There's been a lot of movies about cloning recently, man. It makes you think it's not even just they clone Tyrone. Even what they did in Secret Invasion was very interesting. We can do it. We can clone. Oh, I believe so. We've done it with animals. We can do it. The ability to clone is present. Why did they stop after they did the shing? I think that that was the concern. Actually, I don't know if they've 100% stopped because you can clone your dog. I think Ellen has had the same dog three times or four times. Yeah.  Well, it dies. What did you think? I know. Did I think that? Yeah. What? What? What did you think? I don't know. Oh, Larius. What? She was telling him. I'll tell you what. It makes more sense if she clone her cat, right? Because if her cat died multiple times, you know why. Definitely want more pussy. She probably ate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. That makes more sense. Oh man, what is your favorite potato creation? Easy call, man. Come on, why are we even talking about this? French fries. That's it. It's not even close.  French fries is worth to arteries. What'd you say? No. French fries is hard to resist.  It's got crazy, yo. You're going to put the potato chip up with the french fry? No. The french fry got everything the potato chip got and it got stuff on the side. That's right. It's squishy. That's right. It gives you all the feels. It gives you all the flavor. It gives you all the warmth. Potato chips ain't even got any warmth. That's the hardest thing. That's the hardest thing for me to resist, yo. It's potato chips. Man, french fries, man. I know. I know. You know what I mean? Because we're dealing with coronary artery issues and shit like that. But how many arteries do you need, really? Man, man. That's what I think every time I ask you. Nothing make me feel like more of a sucker. Dan. Than ordering a goddamn beyond burger with a side salad. Shit. Yeah, that should sound super wack. Man. That should sound super wack. A beyond burger with a side salad. Nah, bruh. Asking my wife if she want french fries because she got a zero. Zero on her calcium test. You know what I'm saying? Just so she can fry, she can beat it. I can take one. You know what I mean? But you can't just take one, bruh. You can't just take one. Once that salt hits your lips. The best fries, though. The best fries? Ooh, now we're talking. Are we going with fast food or are we going just across? I'll be honest with you. I had Chick-fil-A fries Friday. I did. I had Chick-fil-A fries last Friday. I had Chick-fil-A fries. I was in the airport. You got to do better. I was in the airport. I was in Dallas, leaving Dallas.  I could have got a salad, but. Yeah, but you're in Dallas. I got 12 grilled nuggets and a side of large waffle fries.  Fast food? No. Fast food, honestly. I like Wendy's fries. Thank you. I like Wendy's. Come on, bro. Are you about to say what I think you're about to say? No, no, no. I'm talking about. You like McDonald's. McDonald's got the best fries. Yeah. If we're just going off the fries. That's what I was saying. I agree with you. What's the other fast food that black people like? Wendy's, man. You know what I like? Wendy's. I have a nostalgic feeling with Wendy's. Because when I used to take my grandmother into town, she used to always want to go to Wendy's. And she used to want her fries hot. So to me, Wendy's represents the ultimate comfort food. They changed it. When they don't sell the yellow bag where the fries used to come in and Wendy's. That's what I'm saying. They were McDonald's. Once McDonald's started stopped frying their fries in trans fat. They didn't taste the same. They used to fry them in the fat. I was listening to Malcolm Gladwell did a whole podcast about it. They still slap, bro. They still really good. What about five guys? I don't remember their fries. And they give you a lot. People think I'm really off with this. So I'm not going to push back if you guys don't think. But I like the In-N-Out fries.  They're soggy.  You never had In-N-Out before?  Oh my God. Next time we go to LA, you have to have In-N-Out. That's, I think, the best fast food burger.  What about Checkers fries? That's what it was. I've been making money a long time. I would never. That's what I'm saying. It's Checkers fries. Checkers fries.  That's what everyone always says. Give me, give me, give me. He's talking about popcorn. He said, y'all, he said your friends are poor. That's what he said. He said your poor next question. Don't act brand new. Don't act brand new. Don't act brand new.  Don't act brand new. I've never eaten that checkers in my life. Really? Never. I'm not a fan of checkers. Trust me. I'm just saying. You know, Adrian Ortiz underscore 12 says, what's the wildest thing you want to do before your movie ends? I don't like the way he said that shit, bro. What's the wildest thing you want to do before your movie ends?  I got a couple of years. Say what? Yeah, I'm about to hurry up. I got a couple of years.  When you're younger, you want to do this wild, risk-taking things, then when life gets good, enjoy and indulge in as much as you can. I'm not talking about like, yes, I do want to live super long, but the moments that you really like, if it's being on a Gwilla or being in a Malfi or being at the beach, how do I stretch these moments out as long as I possibly can? That's the beauty of growing up, right? That's the beauty of living. Yes.  It just gave us excitement. It gave us excitement. By the way, we had nothing else to do. We were bored. So we wanted that exciting feeling. But then when you experience joy and you experience relaxation. Yes. I think it's just about like, how can I sustain those moments as long as possible?  Me too. Were you in Barcelona too, Alex? Yeah. No, I wasn't. Ah, with the in-laws. Oh, all right, all right. They're not your in-laws yet. You're not married. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. But you just got to put that in perspective because people like to say, don't let them be slick.  Yep, exactly.  Are you jumping a broom? What's that mean? Jumping a broom. That's a black sheep. That's a black sheep. And Taylor is part of one care, man. What are you talking about? What's jumping a broom in? I'm asking if he's going to jump like a magician. No, he actually jumps the broom, do they? But what does it mean? Yes, they do. Really? Yes. I'm not thinking until when was somebody jumping the broom. My best friend.  It wasn't ghetto. It wasn't ghetto. Taylor, quick on her feet sometimes. I know. It was my best friend. I'm serious. She jumped the broom? Yeah. Wow, she's a witch?  We had to jump a broom when we were in slavery. You had to jump a broom? I don't believe that's it. No. Where were we? Taylor, are you sure about this one? I don't believe this one, Taylor. When we were in slavery, they couldn't... When we were in slavery, we used to play quidditch professionally. No. No, but I'm saying like it was supposed to be a secret. So that was... Huh? It says the act symbolizes a new beginning and a sweeping away of the past and can also signify the joining of two families are awful, a respectful nod to family ancestors. In fact, even after slavery ended, some descendants still chose to jump the broom to validate their marriage in lieu of having an officiant. She said thank you, but you were totally wrong. You said slavery though. You said slavery. You said act of slavery. No words. You said act of slavery. You said act of slavery. You were totally wrong though. That's it. What Taylor was trying to say is, the practice is documented as a marriage ceremony for enslaved people in the southern United States during the 1840s and 1850s who were often not permitted to marry legally. That's not still not what you said. Why? What did I say then? You didn't say none of that. All you said was they were slaves. That's it. I didn't say they were slaves. That's not what happened. You did say they derived from slavery. But you know what I'm trying to say though. So can I give an apology? No. Thank you. You even half-right.    What did I do? I was ignoring you. I'm like... Scroll down, Taylor. What else did you have? Just look at my phone. You was at the bro. Let's do two more. Taylor gang. Taylor gang. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Does Charlamagne still pay only the pass due on his cell phone bill? You already know.  I don't believe you still do that. I don't believe it. Educated Investor, you already know. You have a business manager that's paying your bills guarantee. I will. I'll fire her if she pays that whole bill. You know what I'm saying? You cannot do that. Why would you pay the whole bill? You know what I'm saying? No one ever assume I want my whole bill paid. Pizza Jones, this is a good one. How many glizzies do you think you could guzzle in ten minutes? Bro, I saw a video before. I saw a video. This is two dudes. And one dude is feeding the glizzy to the other dude. Right? Did you see his video? And he's like feeding it to him like overhand. It's super wild.  And the one dude starts to go, nah, nah, we're brothers. It's different. It's okay since we're brothers.  That don't mean nothing after seeing the island boys tongue each other down. So that's true.  How many glizzies did you think you could take out in 10 minutes? Yeah, two. What? Two. I could do 20 glizzies in 10 minutes. No. 30 seconds of glizzy? Nah. It's also about how much can you fill, Paul. Man, I was feeding for glizzies one day last weekend. Not last weekend, the weekend before last. Fiending for glizzies, bro. Okay. Man, I ordered nothing. I ordered just glizzies with the vegetarian chili. Oh, wow. Ooh, and the wheat hot dog buns.   Really? Oh, my God, man. Did you ever just go no bun? Nah. You never go glizzy no bun? I like the chili. What's the chili going to be on? You know what I'm saying?  But then that's just pork and beans. You know? What about on mine? What about glizzy no bun, no chili, little mayo at the tip? Ew.  Why not? Nasty. Nasty. Nasty. Um, Crop Caffella says, have you ever saved somebody's life? Well, define that. I mean, technically, I don't know. Yeah, I guess you could say that. You saved Alex's life? I saved Alex's life. But he would have lived. Fuck, all right. He didn't save your life. He was that boy Ray in my life. I did save. See how they forget, you know?  He saved your life. How would you have got out?     I'm the sweetest prison girl he locked out right now. He's short in my sentence. He was done, bro. He locked you up. They won't keep him locked up, bro. He was a political prisoner.  I was going to do one to three months. And he got it down to one. More motivation. He's a great guy. How long was he in there for? 28 days. 28 days. I swear it was like three months. If you know 30 days, you got a glass of gobble glissies. Sure. 30 days, they start making foreigners gobble glissies. That's right. You didn't know that? That is a fact, bro. Shooks got you out right and he took a turn.  Now you saved my life. I saved my life for your life in there, would you have done it? 30 days in? How? Wait, it's five on my life? Or which one? Hold on. You almost got me there. He hit you with the iron man, bro. Hold on. Scroll back up, Taylor. This is what I wanted to do. Let's do one more. This is a great one. Producer Omega says one's got to go along with all of their movies.  Easy call. Easy call. Easy call. Easy call. But you're still going to be upset that you don't have those decaprio books. Nope. Come on. Catch me if you can. Inception. Love inception. Love it. That's my favorite one. Love it. Love it. But you can't go without Forrest Gump. Come on, man. You can't go without Big. Come on, man. I can go without Big. Forrest Gump, I can't go without. You can't go without Castaway, bro. Castaway is crazy. Come on, man. You can't go without. You can't go without the Man Without Auto. Man Without Auto was a tear-jerker for me. I love it. Man Without Auto, but I can go without it. I'm trying to, like. Philadelphia, bro. You good. Big. Y'all don't like Big? Big. Y'all don't like Big, yo.  No. Pull up Tom Hanks' catalog, Taylor Gaines.  No, bro.  What are we talking about here, bro? Oh, good point, bro. Toy story.  Come on, yo. Come on, man. Come on, man. No, there's not many. There's a bunch.  The Vinci Code. The Vinci Code is fire. Come on, man. Pull up Leo. Pull up Leo. Hold on a second. Let me see if we got a couple more. Come on, man. Road to perdition. Nah. Come on, stop. Road to perdition. Green Mile. Come on, man. We lose. Catch me if you can. Sleepless in Seattle.   I ain't never seen that. You know what I'm saying? Splash is fantastic. Saving Private Ryan. Saving Private Ryan. Saving Private Ryan.  Come on, man. You're really saying the black ones loud. Yeah. You didn't like Splash? Just go over with me before you put the umph on it. Splash is fire, bro. What else? Let's also be clear about one other thing.  Get up, Leonardo DiCaprio.  I don't know about that. I'm talking about rewatchability. Wow. Not really. Wolf of Wall Street. Wolf of Wall Street, great. Love it. Oh, don't look up. Love, don't look up. Inception, crazy. Love it. Jango. Titanic. Jango, fire.  Oh, Jango. Yeah. The Boston one. The departed. The departed. The departed. Crazy. Gangs of New York. Gangs of New York. Fire. Romeo and Juliet. Nah. Yes, bro. Hanks, bro. Nah, I'm keeping it. I'm keeping Leo, so. I'm keeping Leo. How many old movies do you rewatch all the time? I watch this all the time. I'd rather rewatch some of these Leo joints than the time extra. What do you rewatch now? Wolf of Wall Street. The departed. Inception. I watch Mad Times. Departed. I love the Inception. You run it. Now, Wolf of Wall Street. Let it go. Wolf of Wall Street. Keep going. Jango Fire. Hanks, bro. Come on, man. I know. Yo, all I got to say is closer than when we thought. It's not. Catch me if you can. It's both of them, so we lose it. It's not. It's closer than when we thought. You got to get rid of Leo for Titanic alone. Oh, my God. Titanic. Hate it. Yeah, you hate it. Never liked Titanic. I think you would like that movie where the white people can't swim. Nah, I just never liked Titanic. I never liked Titanic. I never really liked Titanic. I just never really liked Titanic. So, the movie was a great movie. Come on, bro. Smoked her out in a model kit. I know. Come on, bro. Fogged up the windows. Y'all ain't like Titanic, bro. That's not your favorite part.  Y'all ain't like Titanic. He threw her in a dog, bro. He threw her in a dog. She threw her in a slash. She threw her in a back. That was crazy. When he was painting her. When he was painting her, bro. Y'all really didn't like Titanic, yo. It wasn't. Especially the ending. When he's painting her, like, come on, bro. That's good.  It wasn't. No, it isn't. Painter, then he painted her. Titanic was garbage. Yes. Titanic was garbage. Basketball diaries. Basketball diaries, bro. Come on. Hanks, bro. The beach. Yeah, nah. I'm going to leave. It might be Leo, bro. Well, what about who's the better actor? Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. But in terms of the catalog. Hanks. Yo, you don't even know. This is how great Tom is. You don't even know the directors of his movies, bro. That motherfucker can take a bum. And win a bum and Oscar. Leo is brilliant. Don't get me wrong. Absolutely amazing actor. But he does his best work when he has a genius director as well. That's right.  Tom Hanks is the... Tom Hanks also brought us Chef Hanks. Leo doesn't have that. Leo need a seed, bro. Leo need a seed if we're going to have a real conversation. Yeah, bro. But look at Leo's roster, though. Leo's roster? Leo's roster is bananas, bro. I bet you Tom Hanks is better. We just don't know it. No. He's been married for that long. Stop it. Stop it. You acting crazy right now. I bet you Tom Hanks roster is better. No way. No. So Tom was the first one to go down with COVID, bro. Like... Sorry. He kind of weakened me. He took it down. He's not ready now, bro. Leo's like the University of Alabama, bro. He was the best recruits going through Leo. He was the sacrifice. Yo, the money pit? Come on, bro. Stop it. I got to go. I got to get out of here. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right.  You're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Thanks.


Welcome to Consortium News. This is Cathy Vogan reporting on Day 4 of the David McBride trial at the Supreme Court in Canberra. In what was described at one point by the prosecution as a bizarre situation, Day 4 saw the public shuffled across different courtrooms and finally excluded, while a troop of men in suits dealt with the problem of national security information contained in the defence's evidentiary files. In an earlier discussion about what was to be shown to the jury, we had been advised by Andrew Berger, KC, from the office of the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions, that it was best if they were unaware material had ever been redacted. Rather than seeing blackened pages which would concern the jury, Trish McDonald, the lead prosecutor, said it would be preferable to remove the pages altogether and insert blank ones instead. It had become clear that the intended redactions and imminent removal of classified documents, including exculpatory evidence, would impede the development of McBride's defence. But just as David Mossop's ruling against a public interest defence had left accused in an indefensible position. Just as David Mossop had told the court, I will instruct the jury that there is no aspect of duty that allows the accused to act in the public interest, contrary to a lawful order. There could be no consideration of McBride's duty to the nation. A barrister serving with the military in Afghanistan who had reported the murder of 39 unarmed Afghan civilians by Australian soldiers and finding no remedy had finally leaked the information to Australia's national broadcaster. His duty was only to follow orders and the order was one of nondisclosure. McBride was now, in effect, gagged in the courtroom. His public interest motivation had been eliminated as a defence and his exculpatory evidence was scheduled to disappear. Leave was sought and obtained to apply for an appeal. McBride had left the courtroom on Wednesday expecting to return at 10 a.m. Thursday where the application for appeal and a possible stay was to be heard by Chief Justice Lucy McCallum. Around 9.30 p.m. Wednesday, however, McBride posted the following message on social media. The prosecutors, in my case, having yesterday claimed there were absolutely no exceptions to following orders under any circumstances at all, have realised that will be successfully appealed, so are backtracking. If that wasn't their belief, why did they say it was? Zero credibility. In a surprise move, Justice David Mossup had called the parties to open court at 9.15 a.m. in advance of the hearing with McCallum. Upon arrival, defence lawyer Kokisharian, who appeared irritated, requested this business be adjourned until 12.30 p.m. after the application was heard. But the judge and Crown insisted that he only wanted to be helpful by issuing orders. The defence lawyer said there was no need, not even for a temporary order. It would muddy the waters, he said. But there was no stopping Mossup. I will make orders, he said, taking the opportunity to soften what he had said the day before. The application hearing began with Chief Justice McCallum's announcement that she had indeed received orders from Mossup, but the defence did not want to address them directly. McBride's Chief Counsel Stephen Odger was simply issuing a plea that she call on a full bench to determine the scope and the meaning of duty. It had to be more than simply following orders. He told the Chief Justice, quote, his only real argument is that what he did was the right thing. There was an order. Don't disclose this stuff. But he bled. He did the right thing to use his language. And the question is, does the fact that he's in breach of orders mean that he's in breach of his duty so that he's got no defence? He went on. In this case, if that's right, and he proceeds to trial, it may well mean that the consequence is that he's got no real alternative, but to enter pleas of guilty. And that would obviously shorten things, but he seeks an opportunity to have that critical issue determined by a court of appeal. A jury, if they did have a public interest test, would proceed on the basis that there is a powerful public interest that members of the defence force do obey orders, but circumstances might arise in which that is not in the public interest. Hodges explained why Mossop's position is problematic. If our contention is correct, he said, that there is a public interest component to service, then we accept that in the vast majority of cases, the vast majority of circumstances, it would be in the public interest that a member of the defence forces obey an order. The effect of his honour's ruling is not that orders are relevant to the question of duty, but rather that they trump anything else so that you must obey. At this point, McCallum interjects and she adds that they proscribe the universe of relevant consideration. He says, correct. That's the matter that we seek to have the court of appeal deal with. Chief Justice McCallum saw his point, but nevertheless deemed the discipline was essential within the military and the application was refused. At least on that issue, the removal of McBride's exculpatory evidence may well be grounds for another appeal. Stay tuned. Thank you. 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Hey guys, you guys might be wondering why my sweaty and musty-lickiness because I was playing some basketball with shooting out there with Mikey. You know, we always like to shoot around in the morning. Get some exercise in so you can feel great overall throughout the morning. Oh yeah, over the weekend I was shaving my sideburns. And I kind of shaved one a little too much than the other. Let me show you guys. This is a normal one. Pretty sure you can see.  I'm not sure if you can tell, but there's a major difference there. But who cares, man? I don't care if people notice it or if they see it. Here's what other people think. Alright, and today we are on a cooler 2000s channel. Make sure to go check them out.  We're gonna be reacting to one of his videos, which is... Now guys, if you guys have a childhood character or if you guys want me to find some scary videos about or some .exe stuff, let me know in the comments down below. And let's jump straight into this video. Oh, it's been a while since we've been on a cooler 2000s channel. Oh, he has a motorcycle? Cool. Kind of want to motorcycle myself. Ooh, this is cool, man. I love zombie stuff. It looks like his animations are getting way more better. Rich Panchito Matrix? Dude, we know who Panchito Matrix is. Are they beefing or something? Maybe they're close friends, I don't know. Alright, I'm definitely getting creepy. Creepy vibe from this. Why, how is it raining underwater? How is it raining underwater, you guys? Is it at the Flying Dutchman's ship? Oh, Smitty Weaving. Man Jansen. Oh, my boy just came out of the grave. You guys know who Smitty is, right? You gotta know who Smitty is. I believe that is the guy with the hat that has the number one. He has the drinks on the side. I need to get me one of those hats. The Krusty Krab.  You animal. There you go, SpongeBob, he flexing out there.  Dude, I saw Plankton up there. I swear Plankton was up there. Tiktok for dummies. Oh, it seems like the Krusty Krab is about to get attacked or something. Oh, come on. I just wanna see some action. Oh, there you go. Oh, my God, they just bursted in there. There's a lot of zombies. SpongeBob, we need those muscles. Dude, that one is headless. Oh, Granny. Oh, he's going after the nerds. Not the nerds, leave the nerds alone. That is messed up. Everyone's terrorized by this. My God, our jaw is broken. Oh, Sandy's Patrick. SpongeBob, do something, bro. They got your boy and your girl, man. He just left them. Oh, my God. That is one big frickin' zombie. I would not want to get attacked by that thing. Now the damage has happened. Oh, yep, that's a lot of ketchup on the walls now. No, not the old man. Leave the old grandpa alone. It tastes like fart, dude. You don't want him. Dude, they legit barged in the Krusty Krab and they turned that place inside out. Oh, my God, it looks like a buffet out there. Maybe he'll learn how to love life more. Dude, SpongeBob has the trails on him. I don't know, it seems like SpongeBob has trapped himself. No way SpongeBob dies. He got my boy. Wow, come on.  I expected everybody out to die, but not SpongeBob. I wanted it to continue off or maybe he didn't die. Who knows? All right, well, we're not too sure if SpongeBob actually died there in the end or not because we will have to wait and see if he drops on episode two or something. Maybe there will be a part two. I'm not too sure. I'm pretty sure he is gonna make a part two because that would be the quickest series he's ever made, started and ended at a time. So I'm really hoping there's a second episode for this. Oh, yeah, look, Panchito Matrix. He actually has a full season of SpongeBob Zombies. So I guess that's why that ripped Panchito Matrix was in the tombstone right at the start of the video. All right, you guys, well, that was SpongeBob and Zombies. If you guys enjoyed the video, make sure to smash the like button due to the channel. Make sure to subscribe and turn that notification bell on and hit on notifications when you do so. And I will see you all in the next video.