inventive step. If you are not able to assess the novelty, how do you want to assess the inventive step? And novelty is very difficult to identify in software and in business methods because novelty or previous technologies or inventions are not always codified or might be hidden. So these are the reasons why I think that software and business methods is very dangerous to enter into patenting. The second point for all other technologies, low quality inventive step allows easy imitation. So if you have a low quality system, you reduce the appropriability mechanism and hence the incentives in first hand. And third, because we heard about ex ante disclosure, of course, it's very important for an efficient standard setting organization. But when you look at standard actors and you look at their patenting behavior before and after the start of the standard negotiation, you see a direct and a logical, a natural strategic behavior. So what matters, of course, is ex ante disclosure. It matters not only for standard settings, but for a high quality examination services by the patent office. And this, yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wrap up. It's over. And by the way, that was my final say. So thank you very much. Is this microphone working? Thank you very much, Bruno. And I'm sorry if I buzzed in. I just kept quiet. Just ending up there. There's some thought provoking things there. It's a real wake up call for Europe. What you're saying? Bruno, unfortunately, is not going to be with us for the Q&A at the end of this panel. He has to rush off. So I'm going to invite the audience to ask him a question. If there are any burning questions that you would like to ask him. I have one, but we have one from the floor. Also, could you introduce yourselves when you asked your question? Someone had the microphone. Pila, could you? And please keep the questions quite short because we are running a little bit behind time. Basically, I don't think I have to take one of your slides very seriously, not just under how you use what kind of metric you use to measure innovation, and especially in the software field. If you try to measure innovation with


And welcome to Move It Matters on ThinkTechHawaii.com as we enter sports and fitness injury prevention month. Today, we'll be going through the most common sports and fitness injuries associated with poor postures and lack of strength and flexibility in your body. I'm your host, Christine Linders, a board-certified orthopedic clinical specialist in physical therapy. My mission in bringing you the show is to teach you the best evidence-based techniques to help you and your body feel your best to enjoy the activities you love without pain. Two questions. Can faulty postures and lack of flexibility in certain areas of your body be setting you up for injury in your sports and fitness routine? The answer is yes, and you'll be learning expert tips today to alter those postures and regain flexibility to prevent those injuries from occurring. Also, what other types of pain are in your life right now?  Here's what I mean. We have two types of pain in life, pain that is nagging and dull that we tolerate because it's not bad enough to take the risk or the time to take care of it. Sore shoulder, a nagging bad habit, or lack of motivation to get things done. It bothers off, but not enough to take action to make a change. The other type of pain is more severe and sharp, a recently sprained ankle or a new back injury, or a newly broken relationship. With more acute types of pain, we're compelled to take action. Ice that ankle, see a doctor about her back injury, or try something new to distract the pain of a recent breakup. Does this pertain to you and your body or where you are in some aspect of your life right now? If it does, I'm here to help you take that action, make that change and achieve your goals without injury. I'm happy to introduce you to two women right now who have. I'd like to warmly welcome my two guests, Michelle Sherman, Beach volleyball player and surfer and works as a dental hygienist and Katie Olja, holistic health coach. Thank you both so much for coming on to movement matters today to share your successes with our viewers. Hi, Katie and Michelle. How are you guys doing today? Extremely well. It's a beautiful rainy day. Good. Good. Well, thanks. It's a perfect time for us to do the show. So for the viewers, Michelle was having neck and shoulder pain and she noticed it after work and she's a dental hygienist, so she spends a lot of time. We've all been to the dentist spends a lot of time kind of hunched over using those fine equipment in a very small space and so is interfering right with your ability to play volleyball sports and surf and play volleyball. And when my pain was enough, it motivated me to get some help with it, which is which is great. So I saw Michelle and we were looking at, okay, so why is this happening? What are the injuries? And we noticed that from being so hunched over, she was starting to develop that forward posture in her upper back and also her shoulder, her right shoulder, her dominant arm, her hitting arm was pushed way forward. So when you hunch forward and in previous stocks, I've mentioned how the humorous the shoulder bone sits on the shoulder blade in the socket. And so when you slouch forward, that ball moves forward on the socket and your biggest restraint that's a muscle and a tendon is your bicep tendon. And then another one is your supraspinatus tendon, which is a rotator cuff muscle. So when you are forward or always using your right arm, like doing what she has to do for work or someone that has to reach for a mouse clicker or something like that. Or talk on the phone all day long that creates a message to the bicep tendon to hold the ball on the socket. And so you start to get pain when it gets bad enough. So we came up with some exercises that I wanted to show for you. So in video number one, this is my favorite. I tell everyone to buy a foam roll. I would just roll the blanket at home because my foam roll is living in Connecticut and I have one at work.  I was using a pillow because it wasn't long enough for me and put your arms out into the T position so they're directly at shoulder height. Your arms might not meet the floor when you do that. I love this one because when I'm at the gym in between sets on the row, I'll just lay back on the bench. On the row and I will just stretch out my arms. Sometimes use some five pound weights or even two pound weights and let my arms hang to the side and stretch all of these tight ligaments and tight muscle and fashion really releases a lot of pressure for me. Oh, that's great. So Katie, do you have any tips like that that you've used or had any of your clients use over the years? Yeah, so really I focus on strengthening. So in addition to, you know, loosening all that stuff up, you really got to strengthen your back muscles because when you're always hunched forward, your chest is going to be tight and your back is going to be kind of elongated. And so really focusing on widening that opening that all up, you can use the cross ball in your chest. Yes, I have an image of that. Yeah. And really when you're focusing on back to just make sure your shoulders are always pulled back. So when you're doing that strengthening motion. Yeah, there's one. So the lacrosse ball is behind my shoulder there. And you can see that's going to help kind of loosen that stuff up. So all those muscles and everything that's pulled forward. When you're leaning over, just being able to open all that up, open your shoulders up and all of that kind of fun stuff. It really helps with posture as well. It's great. And I think the one that you were talking about too that we don't have an image of is putting it in the front, right? And doing the same photo, but yeah, but like rolling that out on the front. So along with the strengthening, we have video number three, which this is strengthening without a TheraBand or without a cable cross that shows you pulling the band straight down. I always tell people with this one, it's really important to lift your chest and squeeze your blades first down and back and then pull the band to your hips, but not beyond because you don't want your elbow to go beyond your back because then it's pushing the humorous forward again. And in the in the video just before that, there's one where it shows something that you can do if you are sitting at work or if you are like Michelle, you're hunching over or like me and I do all the time at work. I just pull my shoulders back and that's without a band. But Katie, if you were in the gym working out, I mean, it's great ones that I've done in the gym to like holding a cable cross to stimulate this motion. Is there other ones that you love like that are favorites for this? Yeah, for posture specifically, I really love bent over row. So if you're, I don't, I wish I made a video of this one, but if you're on a bench and used single arm row, those ones are great. So I'm kind of demo for you here basically pulling back. But when you do this specifically if your arms are rolled forward or your shoulders are rolled forward, just making sure you open that chest up really wide first and holding that position while you row and that's going to really strengthen those muscles and actually help you with posture. Yes, that's such a great tip. That's such a great tip. The get your shoulders back first. I actually had a friend who was starting a fitness routine and she was telling me that the trainer that she was working with didn't want to get into the heavy weight so much right now because they said you need to focus on scapular retraction. We need to get that first before we start loading those muscles. So yeah, so now let's talk a little bit about, you know, we mentioned surfing and volleyball in the upper body, but let's talk about people that are just doing a general fitness routine. They're, they're walking, they're doing the elliptical, they're starting to do running or things like that. I like to focus on lower extremity fitness because I noticed that people with tight hamstrings, tight calves tend to get problems like low back pain, plantar fasciitis, Achilles tendonitis, anterior knee pain, which is like patella tendonitis in the front of your knee. And so Katie, you have a great picture of rolling out your calf. Do you want to tell us a little bit about what just kind of you went through last week? Yeah, so for anybody watching, I work out probably six times a week. So for me, I have been working out and all that fun stuff. So for me, I get kind of overuse problems because if I'm slacking at all doing my mobility or stretching, I will get kind of an overuse injury. And so what was happening to me last week is that my calf and my Achilles were so tight from running that it was actually pulling on the nerves of my feet and it felt like my foot was going to break when I walked on it. So not fun at all. I had to take a day off. And so what I'm doing here, if you want to show the picture again, basically when I put that ball right on my Achilles, it puts it pushes on it to where it's almost like a massage like when a massage therapist pushes into a knot. So that's what it's doing there. And I'm just flexing and pointing my Achilles. And then the one in picture, in the middle picture, you can see it's a little bit higher up. So I'm also getting my soleus and my gastrocnemius up there in my calf. And really just working out this huge knot that I had in there. So what kind of ball is that? It's a lacrosse ball. Oh yeah, well, you were going to finish. I interrupted you. You were going to say and... Basically, it just worked out that knot and I have no pain today. So that was four days ago from not being able to walk to being totally fine. I love it. So I was talking to Michelle earlier about the things that you can use and I asked her, you know, have you ever had Michelle any Achilles pain or plantar fasciitis and you were telling me... I had tightness all in my right side of my body, all the way down my hamstring, to my calf, to my Achilles. And I just sit on my bed, my one leg up and I use my knee and I rub my Achilles right on the knee. And I focus so much on my upper body that I do forget about the lower body. And just last week I did a lower body routine and I was amazed at how much tension was released in my back and even in my tight muscles and my legs. So I think my next goal is to balance my workouts because I've been doing a lot of retraction, a lot of scapula work, but I really need some balance now. Excellent. No, that's good. And I was thinking of all the cheap ways that you can release your calf, your body, your shoulder, your hamstrings. And so we were talking about the lacrosse ball. Michelle's talking about crossing her legs and using her knee. I've used my fist. I used to tell people on the East Coast when I was living in New York, do you have a rolling pin?   And pull your foot up and down and use a rolling pin or something, whatever you have to try to release that muscle. Because as Katie showed, you just get, you get rid of it when you focus on getting the proper mobility and the proper fascial and tissue tensions. I actually have had a very painful achilles after coming out of the boot. I fractured my ankle in November playing Beach volleyball. I was actually playing with Michelle. It was an awesome game. I'm sure we would have won it had that not happened, right? But I was using, I was loosening up my calf and one of my patients let me borrow her fascia blaster, which is another tool that is she's actually black is using it for a different purpose. But physical therapy and massage therapists for decades have always tried to come up with tools to save their fingers when you have to get up into an area. And I actually really love the fascia blaster for my calf. I've used many different tools to try to play around with myself. I use my hands on my patients, but when myself, I try these different things and that worked really well because it has these prongs that kind of go right on either side of the achilles. And when your achilles gets inflamed, the scar tissue forms in a haphazard format. And that really helped me. So let's go to video number five, where I show a hamstring stretch. I think Michelle, you were referring to getting a lower body workout, having all these muscles releasing and then your low back felt so much better. So you just want to make sure that when you do this hamstring stretch, you could do it a variety of ways. You just want to make sure both your feet are pointing directly towards the wall. You don't want to have one foot turned out or turned in. So look down when you're doing this stretch, make sure that your feet are pointing straight towards the floor. And then the previous video where I'm lying on my back is a hamstring stretch.  And if you try this, if you have back pain, you're not going to get your legs straight like that in most cases because there's a direct association between tight hamstrings and low back pain. So ladies, we have about one minute to the break. And then when we come back, we're going to talk about mindset and attitude and all that. Is there any final words you want to say before the break? I guess I'll just add on to your low back pain. Another really common cause of low back pain is actually tight hip flexors. So for anybody who sits all day long, they a lot of times will get back pain. We can show the picture after the break, but I do have a picture of the cross ball in the hip flexor. And that is a really great way to release your hip flexors. Oh, that's great. Okay. Well, so for our viewers, I'm talking with Katie and Michelle, holistic health coach, beach volleyball and surfers who have successfully achieved all their goals and gotten back into play in their sports, doing mobility and flexibility and mining their posture. Stay tuned. We'll be back in a few minutes. We're going to be talking about how you too can change your mindset and your attitude to get whatever you need out of your fitness and sports goals. I'm Winston Welch, host of Out and About. It's a show that we have every other Monday on Think Back Live here. We explore a variety of topics that are really interesting. We have four organizations, events, and the people who fuel them in our city, state, country and world. We've got some amazing guests on here, like all the shows at Think Back. So if you want to catch up on stuff, tune into my show every other Monday and other shows here on Think Back Live. It's a great place to learn about stuff, to be informed. And if you have some ideas, come on my show. Let's talk about it. See you later. We're back. We're live. This is Movement Matters. I'm Christine Linders on ThinkTechHawaii.com. I'm speaking with Katie Olja, holistic health coach, and Michelle Sherman, beach volleyball player and surfer, about how to prevent injuries in your body so that you can achieve your fitness and sports goals without pain. So we're just wrapping up talking about the different upper body stretches, strengthening exercises, posture, and lower body flexibility and mobility and workouts that you can do to release the tensions in your back and be able to decrease pain in your body. Katie and Michelle, do you have anything else to add on that subject before we dive into mindset? So just what I was saying before about releasing the hip flexors, I do have the photo here. I'll just show you on my phone. Okay, so you can see here. Let me get it right in the screen. So that's just me laying on the floor. Yep. And so right in here, you can see if I can point to it. Oh, there it goes. Okay. Oh, there it goes. So you can see whether the cross ball is right in my hip flexor. Let me get this here. Yep, that works. So right in my hip flexor. Yep. Okay, so just laying on your stomach, literally putting it right in your hip flexor and you can flex and release the quad. And that's going to basically put that right into that pressure point and release your hamstring and release a lot of low back pain. That's a great stretch. And I lunge and I use the mirror to align my hips properly because usually my right hip is tilted down and I'll use a mirror lunge and use a few weights to kind of stretch that out. It's really a great stretch. That is a great stretch. So I have done both of those and it's funny. I was just doing lunges with a patient yesterday at work and telling him when you do the lunge, I have them drop the back leg straight down while they're standing straight up. And so he was saying, am I working the back leg or am I working the front leg? Because the stretch that you get in the front of your quads and a little bit of your hip flexor when you do that is it can be immense if you're tight and he sits all day long. He's a principal. But another thing too with that lacrosse ball that you mentioned, I've done that before, is if bending and flexing your knee for sure is awesome, but I also will rotate my foot in and out. So I'm like, this is my knee. I'm bending and flexing my knee like Katie was saying. You can also rotate it side to side like that just to go crosswise on the tendon and you can do circles with your legs. There's so many three dimensional ways you can move your body because our muscles do work and they function three dimensionally even though when we're doing some weights and exercises, we can be doing one or two dimensions. So those are great. Those are great tips. So now Katie, let's talk a little bit more about what you do because I know Michelle and I and all of my friends, all of my patients, we all talk about these things. You're frustrated. You can't get to that next level. Something's holding you back. You're afraid. You're tentative. You don't know where to start. What do you do? Yeah, so this is actually part of the reason I stopped being a personal trainer and moved more into the holistic health space because I noticed so many people, whether they have fitness goals or financial goals or business goals, whatever it is. They typically have something that they just can't get past. And so I would see that a lot with my clients with weight loss goals. They actually would hit a certain point and not be able to progress past it. And so I would run into sports as well. And so what really it came down to was they had either a limiting belief that taught them that they were not capable of succeeding past that point, or they had mindset issues where they just didn't think right or they had negative thoughts that would hold them back, things like that. And so really what I started to do was take fitness, nutrition, and add in mindset and add in like belief work to really help people get to the next level. I think that's awesome. Michelle, have you ever needed any mindset work? I'll throw myself under the bus in a minute. It's very depressing and long term pain is very depressing. You can start to believe that it's not going to go away, but these problems don't start overnight. It takes a long time to feel this extreme pain and it takes a long time to rehab into recovery. So I think just knowing that it's going to take a while, but recovery, rehab, physical therapy, chiropractic, massage, keep with it, take your time. Don't expect results overnight. And that mindset can go a long way. Those are great words. You're giving me goosebumps right now. I have chicken skin. I think that's so true. It can take a long time. I used to tell some of my patients, the cliche, Rome wasn't built in a day. There's these layers of issues and biomechanical faults that we need to correct. And I think the thing with the keep with it, you can do it. You can change your mindset. If you want to improve, you need to improve. This is our body. This is my body. And in order for me to make my body better, my mind better, I need to work on me and my body. And a lot of it is that mindset, that belief of knowing that you can do it or identifying the self limiting beliefs of something you were told when you were younger or teased about. I know I was teased when I was very young because I was 5'11 at 12 years old and the guys were about 5'4.  And I was really self conscious about it. And I didn't really know any better, excuse me, because it was me. But some of myself limiting beliefs became evident later in college when I was, I guess, starting to date. But I didn't think I was dating. I just had a million guy friends and my friends were like, don't you know he's interested? I'm like, no, he'd never be interested in me. And all of my self limiting beliefs were coming from being teased by boys exclusively in 7th grade, 8th grade, freshman year. And then of course by junior year they're all 6'3 and I had no problem. But by then my self limiting belief that I didn't even know was there until some of my friends hit me over the head in college and said like, what are you doing? I'm like, no. But they were interested in me and I couldn't see it. I couldn't see it. And so when you want to make a change, if you want to stop drinking Diet Coke or get to the gym 5 or 6 days a week in your case or do your physical therapy exercises, right, Michelle? I mean, it's hard. My patients have a hard time with, wait, I just, I can't find a way to remember. Like, Katie, do you have any tips? Like if someone's saying to me, I can't find a way to remember. I know I need to do these things. They come back four days later. And I know I should be doing this, but I just can't, I just can't get myself to do them. Help. Yeah, I think one of the biggest issues is that people think that they have to be motivated to do things. But I actually don't really believe in motivation, because the problem is you'll get excited to do something. You know, like excited to get better. It's excited to heal these problems. And then the motivation wears off very quickly. And so if you don't have discipline or routines or habits put in place, then you're going to basically stop doing it as soon as you don't feel like doing it. So really, I would just encourage you to set up routines and set up like, if you need a reminder to set a reminder on your phone, you know, twice or however many times a day. And just know that it's not going to feel great all the time. And if you want to heal and you want to get through that stuff, then you just kind of have to keep going, even when it doesn't feel great. I play tricks with myself because with my diet, sugar really spikes my mood and then I drop hard. And that's also a mindset thing, but it's also a physiological thing where sugar actually makes me feel bad. So, you know, tricks like don't even buy it, don't put it in the house and, you know, stick with it. Like you said, determination, not motivation, just discipline. Discipline is a big word. And I like how you said the determination, not motivation. And Katie, you don't even use motivation anymore because that's right. We get all gung ho at the beginning of the year to get fit, go to the gym, but that fizzles out very quick. That's why gyms are super busy like in January and February. And people that go to the gym don't like those months because the machines are taken. Now, I listen to, and then discipline, I listen to Darren Hardy. He does a daily morning blurb on YouTube, which is so inspirational and it's for like entrepreneurs and entrepreneurial spirits. And he's tagline is better every day. And he talks about the habit of listening to his video every morning to jump start your day and how it's so important to have that discipline like work out in the morning or whatever you do, eat this breakfast, whatever you do, get on a routine, get on a discipline because when we learn to brush our teeth as kids, we got in a discipline. So we do it every night. There's that habit that you form in being disciplined that becomes harder because we're humans, we're habitual. It becomes harder to break, but when you're having trouble baking through those boundaries, which you see way more than me on a different level because that's what you do for your profession. It's important to try to get people to get on a routine. So I will work on my patients. Thanks to you all. Yes. If I can just add to that real quick. So when we're talking about mindset to your thoughts actually become like engraved into your brain. So dive in really deep into the science here.  And so that is like a very tangible way to recognize that mindset is so, so, so important. And even just shifting mindset from being like, Oh, I can't do this to saying I can and I'm able is going to have like a dramatic effect, not just in specific goals, but just in your overall wealth, like well being and stuff like that. I love it what the mind believes the body achieves.  Dwayne wire wrote a book there's so many books on it like the power of intention, keeping your words your words the landmark forum talks about vocabulary using the right vocabulary the can versus can't will versus won't. There's those those words that you need to say to get your body to perform to get your mind to perform and I think that's something that I'll definitely focus about so we got to wrap it up ladies. Thank you so much for coming on the show to join me to movement matters and think tech Hawaii calm and thank you to our sponsors and underwriters for allowing us to be here with you today. Stay tuned in two weeks as we talk with Dr. Daphne Scott a sports physiatrist for the hospital for special surgery in New York City about common athletic injuries prevention and treatment. I hope we helped you learn something today. If so please subscribe or send us a review and as always life is better when you listen to your physical therapist aloha.


Hello, and thanks for joining. So this talk is about, well, serverless and power. So we were kind of curious to see, is serverless actually powerless? Like, if you scale it down to zero, does it not use energy? So we're going to find out in this talk exactly how that works and how we came to some interesting conclusions. So my name is Kevin Dubois. I'm a developer advocate at Red Hat. I'm based in Belgium, so I didn't have to travel too far today. And I also speak some English, Dutch, French, and Italian. So if you have questions afterwards, I can talk to you in those languages. And I'm a really big fan of open source, of course. Yeah. Thank you, Kevin. And I'm Jose, Gomez said yes. I work as a product manager at Red Hat, mostly in observability for products like open telemetry, distributed tracing, and Kepler. We will be discussing a bit on those, some of them. I'm based in Madrid, in Spain. And despite what the White House is saying these days, I love programming in C++. And also, I've been playing heavy metal for quite a long. I should be better, actually. And simracing. So if you want to talk about those things afterwards, I'd be very happy to. So I did a PhD in materials engineering for which we were trying to find new materials for, to find new semiconductors to perform better so we can make better transistors so they get more efficient. This was like 10 years ago. And trying to find some material for this talk, I found that I failed miserably and everybody's failing. And you might think, well, this is a talk that you can check later. We will upload these slides. And very clever people, IBM, MIT, Google, whether you think this is important or not, doesn't really matter. Because the rate that we are producing more energy and noise lately is higher than the capacity we have. So this is happening, guys. The good thing, if there's a good thing, is that we are not alone. If you care about the planet, if you care about anything related to sustainability, there is someone that can be an ally that is someone who doesn't want to spend more money. Yeah, exactly. And that's what we're seeing, right? We see, on the one hand, we care, of course, about the planet. I think most of us do, hopefully. And our CFO, he might also care about the planet, but he also likes to look at what are some of the financial factors into all of this. So the CNCF did an interesting interview in December. And they were asking what factors are leading you to overspend. And we can see that there's quite a few that kind of have a relation with the power usage, with the actual resource usage of your applications. So you can see that 70% are reporting that they're over-provisioning, that they're using more resources than necessary. And then you can also see 43% says that resources are not deactivated after use. So they're just sitting there wasting energy and then fluctuating consumption demands and poor planning and prediction on cloud consumption. And those are all factors that, of course, affect not only the pocketbook of your organization, but those things are sitting there consuming resources and energy, right? So if we take a look at how our traditional deployments work, we'll over-provision, right? Because we want to make sure that when there's load coming in, that we can handle it, right? And then so you can see that most of the time we're actually having too many resources. We're spending more money and more energy than we should. And then still we run the risk that at some point we get, ideally, we get a lot of requests to our systems and we have happy users. But if we get too many requests that we end up in an under-provision state, even though we try to be safe and over-provision, so that's not so ideal, right? So what would be better if we can scale based on the demand of the moment and use only what you need, right? So you can do that more or less with regular, let's say, Kubernetes with horizontal pod auto-scaling and stuff like that. But with serverless, you can actually scale all the way down to zero, right? So if there's no requests coming in, if you have no pods running, you use no, well, we would assume that you're not using any power, but that's what we wanted to find out. So a project that does this in the CNCF landscape that works with Kubernetes is Knative, right? So Knative enables serverless on Kubernetes. It provides auto-box auto-scaling to zero. So it basically looks for a request coming in. If there's no request coming in, then it'll scale your pods to zero. And if there's a lot of requests coming in, it's going to scale it up. And it can be very flexible with the scaling, which is pretty cool. And Knative is not just about auto-scaling, right? It has a bunch of different features, like eventing and logic and stuff like that. It has this built-in load balancer as well to make sure that all your pods are using the resources efficiently. And the idea with serverless, of course, outside of the scaling itself is that your server complexity gets abstracted away, right? That's kind of where that name serverless came from. It's not that there's no servers. We always have to mention that when we're talking about serverless. And so you would think, auto-scale to zero, that means there's no power usage, right? This makes sense. I mean, if there's no pods, then how are they using energy, right? Well, of course, there's a little bit more to it, right? So we have the pods themselves. But they need to be scaled up and down based on the demand that's coming in. And like I said, that happens based on the requests coming in. Your usual Kubernetes auto-scaling happens based on CPU and memory. But that means that there needs to be a pod running to collect the usage, right, the CPU and memory. And so with Knative, it's kind of an inverse situation. It does not look necessarily at CPU and memory. It looks at requests. But so you need some way to know that requests are coming in or not. So the way that this happens in Kubernetes, basically, there's a control plane. So you have traffic coming in. It goes through an HTTP router. And it's going to send traffic by default to this activator, which is going to notice, like, oh, there's traffic. So we need to auto-scale. We need to scale our application up or down. And then if there's a lot of requests coming in, it also has this burst feature, in which case it's going to send traffic directly to the pod and skip the activator to increase the performance. And there's this Q proxy sidecar container inside the pod that will also report back to the auto-scaler then to determine whether it needs to scale or not. But so, of course, there's a little bit of overhead to this, right? So it's not just the pods that we need to look at. It's the whole K-native control plane. So that's what we wanted to measure. So because we can guess that the pods are not using anything. And maybe what is the control plane using? Yeah, and if we only had a tool to do that, how many of you know Kepler? Let me try. OK. I would say, like, 10%? Yeah, we need to. So actually, there is a booth there for the community. Please pass by. There are very nice people. So Kepler is a great acronym, actually. And it stands for Kubernetes-based efficient power level exporter. But let me explain to you about or give you some introduction to it. The cool thing about it is that it's able to, for the first time, give you granular power consumption metrics. So it's able to tell you how much energy and power your pods, name spaces, nodes are spending. So you can take a look at, uh-huh, this guy is spending a lot, right? It uses eBPF and Rappel. I will get into that in a second. And just for you to know, it was accepted as a sandbox project just a year ago, right? So we will be celebrating next month. So how does it work under the hood? Just a few notes. This is much more complex. But I try to make something easy. You know, I am a product manager. So every time you want to tell your CPU to put this example to do something, you will end up calling the kernel, which will end up calling the hardware itself. So what Kappa does, it installs a program that hooks into the scheduler and says, hey, every time you finish a task, let me know, right? It will do it asynchronously, but it takes no. So what it can do now is say, uh-huh. So it was you with this ID, cool. And you were spending this many CPU cycles. OK, and you did these cache misses. Not that good. OK, and takes no. So please, store this one in your brain for a second. And let's put it back. So we had EBPF doing that thing. Now let's talk about Rappel. Rappel enters the chat. And what it does is that it's able to, we are in Linux. So yeah, it's in a file, right? But that fancy, the technology is fancy itself. But then you will have available the amount of energy that is coming from different components, so CPU, RAM, other anchor components, and so forth. So we have these two things, right? So clever people thought, hey, let's try to make a ratio because I know that this guy is spending these many cycles. I know all the energy that was spent. So I can do a ratio. So this 20% of this energy is because of you. And then we can point fingers, which we love. So then we love modern observability, so we put them in Prometheus. The end of the day, what you will be doing is you install Kepler. Kepler will install this program into the kernel, the EBPF program.  Kepler will be watching you. And then you will be able to see it in a cool dashboard, right? But then, OK, this was a lot of theories for that. There won't be more. We were wondering, is serverless power powerfully powerless or not? Yeah, exactly. It's funny, we were kind of rehearsing this talk before. This powerfully powerless is quite tongue twisters. I like that. You were the first one to trip over it. So OK, so we created a different scenario to test, right, to see what is the power usage of applications using both serverless and non-serverless. And we were thinking, OK, how can we do this in a fair way? Because Knative also has a load balancer. And so we were thinking, OK, well, so it would be fair that the application, the serverful, the non-serverless application, would use kind of a similar system. So we're thinking maybe with Istio, it's comparable. So that's our first deployment, right? So we have a traffic generator. So that's going to send traffic in over a certain amount of time. And then we're going to not send traffic for a while and then send traffic again to mimic fluctuating traffic. And so you can see here our deployment one with our pods with the Istio proxy inside, so with the side container. And then we're collecting the metrics from Kepler. And then we're going to see how that behaves. And then our second deployment, of course, is the serverless deployment, where it's a similar setup, right? So we're going to generate some traffic, send it to our pods. And they're going to scale up when the traffic comes in, things to k-native. And then we stop the traffic, and then it's going to scale down to zero. And so let's see what happened. So we had this couple of deployments, and we just need a setup to set it all up. So we just created a couple of Kubernetes Chrome jobs. So just remember, we will be sending in name space one traffic 2,000 requests per second from the traffic generator to six instances of this very thin mock server. And then we will rest for 10 minutes, then another 20 minutes to k-native. k-native will be upscaling our deployments up to six. And then there is a concurrency factor that is not very relevant for this, but it's just there. So we just press play. And we, of course, Kepler is watching. I told you, Kepler is always watching. So we build this dashboard based on the data coming from Kepler. So I was very happy because I saw a great difference between energy. And I will explain those. No, I'm throwing a lot of colors and things here. But they look really fancy. Yeah, I love Grafana. So what I first found was this overlap. But then if you look at the labels, the one that is consuming more energy, so I'm showing now in that red box at the top, real-time power consumption in watts, the big one is serverless. So I was very sad. And then the other one is the one we call serverful. And then we have this amount of energy that we are also seeing at the right. Those are the numbers of the energy consumption over time. And so we had this observation. We also observed, you see there is a small box in the big box that says this small overlap. That is something that happens when we are idle, when we are not sending traffic. So we wanted to understand what's there. So there is also this panel telling a breakdown on the different namespaces that are contributing to the serverless experiment. So the big one, which is the red one, is the total, which is the addition of the serverless namespace with our experiment plus the key native serving namespace. So we have now these two contributions. And that's the one to blame here, right? So there's something in the background doing this stuff. What happens with the Istio part or the serverful namespace is that the Istio namespace is not contributing to the overall energy consumption itself. It's contributing inside our serverful deployment. That's because we get the Istio proxy sidecars, and that's the one doing the load. Then we can repeat this one for three hours and for six hours. And it's more or less the same, right? Like more or less no, it's the same. So just for you to know that this is not just we took a look for one hour, and that's it. It's also remarkable that we can also check the amount of the different contributions from the CPU, from RAM, and so forth. And we didn't find any noticeable contribution or difference. So this is a summary of that. So just, OK, we saw that more energy coming from serverless in this case, there is this idle power that got us thinking. So we continued. We jumped into experiment two. We added a third deployment, which is just, we called it plain. OK, let's forget about load balancing, about throwing requests through six instances. Let's just deploy a server and a client and put it together and see what happens. And no surprises. So now we have created a stair, right? If we are plain, not load balancing, not anything, we don't spend a lot of power. If we put Istio, then we have a contribution of power like 2.5 times. And actually, everything is inside the bots with the Istio proxy sidecar doing this contribution, which makes sense, right? Because we have our traffic generator plus the Istio sidecar, which is more or less doing the same. And the servers that are doing nothing, they are saying, hey, hello world, 200 back. Cool. OK, so I was starting to get nervous because people, our friends from KeyNative, were helping. And we were telling them, or we were finding out that now. So yeah, I got frustrated, like that guy. And I started to add more load and more load. So OK, 4,000 requests per second. I did more experiments, like, hey, what if we change this burst limit so we don't bother a lot KeyNative? What if we, like, playing around just to let you know that those things didn't work? So I will not, I'm collapsing the results here, but the trends are the same just for you to know. 4,000 requests per second, the same. Going back to 2,000 requests per second and changing these parameters, no. So again, I was a bit frustrated. And then I called Kevin, like, I was, yeah, not crying, but yeah, we needed to talk here, right? And then Kevin had this great idea. Right, yeah, so I was telling Jose, OK, so we're trying to send more and more load and we're getting the same results. So what are we, like, what can we do to change the scenario here? And then I was thinking, well, the applications that we're using are, you know, a really efficient application. So I was using this Quarkus application. So it's like basically a Java implementation, but I was compiling it down to a native binary. So it was, like, you know, really fast. And using not very many resources, but for our use case, that actually didn't quite make sense because we were trying to, you know, get some real measurements.  And so, yeah, I just, like, made up this, you can laugh at this, but I just basically created this little endpoint where we pass in a parameter for you need to run for this amount of time and then generate some load, right? So do some calculations increasingly more and more, and then append to a string. So we also have, you know, the memory building. And, well, it worked surprisingly well, right?  Yeah, and actually, this was doing some, like a lot of stuff, like what happens with an efficient code that is, like, filling a lot of strings, right? And all of that, that we couldn't load the system with, like, 2,000 requests per second, 4,000 requests per second, because all the pods were having, like, yeah, I mean. So in this example, which I think it was good, we came to six requests per second, but now our servers are doing stuff. And what we found now is that a case in which, actually, when we compare a use case with server full and server less, right, is the aversus generative, which, by the way, you can combine, but just we want to try to understand what's going on, then we get more or less the same numbers. And this was exciting because then we got to understand that it really depends on what you are measuring, what your workloads are doing, what they are doing when they are running, what they are doing, what they are idle. And then with that information, then you can take actions, right? And also, in this use case, the main contribution that we had for the serverless use case, it's only coming from our serverless name space with our experiment. It's not coming from all the other serverless name spaces like a key native serving, which was the one that was contributing too much energy or power, in this case, to our experiment. So we actually found some situations in which it can help. And we will tell you why. Actually, coming back to our question, we are close to wrap up, is serverless powerfully powerless or not? Right. And so the answer, as always, in IT is, it depends, right? I mean, on the one hand, we could see that if we have very small workloads and limited amount of workloads that are running, you're not going to get much gain from scaling down to zero, right? And especially if our pods that are running aren't doing much, if they are not getting the request in, like just like with serverless where they scale down to zero, if they're not getting any requests, we found that those pods really are not consuming much energy. So that's one interesting outcome from our experimentation. But on the other hand, we could also see that in certain use cases, serverless definitely did save some power. And then, well, what we didn't measure is what if we actually have different kinds of density in our nodes, right? So on the one hand, if we don't use serverless, we have to schedule a certain amount of provisioning. Even if we can autoscale with Kubernetes, we still need to overprovision. So let's say these are representations of nodes. And on the left side, you see this is kind of a non-serverless node where we need to overprovision. And then on the right side, you see that we can actually use our resources more efficiently on this one node. So when requests are not happening, we unschedule some loads. And then if some requests are coming in, it kind of fluctuates a lot faster and better so that at the end of the day, we can use our nodes more efficiently and potentially use less nodes. And I don't think we really need to measure with Kepler the difference between a node that's up and running versus a node that's shut off. I mean, even in the cloud, you could say, well, the cloud providers, they still have those nodes running for other workloads or something. But it's kind of like the less power we use, the less power they need to provision, right? So we definitely can save energy by using these kinds of serverless scheduling. Yeah, so actually, that's the whole point about this talk. The important thing is about measure. We can now measure these things. And for those challenges that Kevin was sharing at the beginning of this talk, which were about overprovisioning, then you can measure, do I need that or not? Then you can measure what's the overhead of serverless, what's the overhead of Istio, whatever you have in the background, and then understand the price it has. Every time you add something that is doing stuff, it has a price. There are also a constant contribution to these energies that are also important. So don't only measure when you are running traffic under load. Also, take into account those things because they don't scale linearly, right? We found out that the contribution to the energy from in our naming space was more or less the same for 6 requests per second and for 4,000 requests per second in terms of traffic, right? So really, it depends on what you are seeing or what your workload is doing. And so there's one size that's not fatal. And again, if I were to tell you to take away from here is measure and provision accordingly. And maybe a third one because this is something I'm always thinking and I miss from my programming days. Now you have the superpower. Whenever you have a pull request, you are reviewing code, you were looking, hey, I'm more a space guy, so I'm more like a top guy, and then you will get your pull request rejected. Now you can actually measure if that one is efficient or not and tell your colleague how they're you, right? So coming back to feature work. Yeah, so I think we're still experimenting. It's a really interesting project, so I think we're going to continue trying with different services, maybe trying with different topologies, maybe add those scaling nodes with machine auto-scaling and seeing, I mean, again, we can assume that turning a node off is going to save you energy, but maybe we should measure it too, I don't know. And then seeing what the actual relationship is between the requests that we're sending in and then work that the application actually is doing. So I think we can continue with some work, and I think we will continue with that. Yeah, that's very important. We will continue with the backup of these great people that we really want to shout out. Vibu was helping me a lot, so Vibu, thank you very much. Sunil, Vimal, Kai, Huamin, Parul, Marcelo, everyone that is contributing to this great project. I saw a lot of, I didn't see a lot of hands here knowing about Kepler. Please pass by their booth. They are very nice people. This is a great project, so please go there. And also Keenative, they were helping us a lot. Yeah, and they have a booth here too. And thanks to Roland, who has a talk at the same time. So we asked him to come to this talk, but he couldn't. Jerk. No, I'm just kidding. Anyway, so thank you for joining. So please, we would love your feedback. So if you go to the sked of this talk, you can leave the feedback. You can also find the slides for this talk. And then Rapazer is right there too.  It's like, wait. But if you registered for this talk, you can also just access the slides there. And then just a quick shout out to our friendly employer, Red Hat. But they actually sponsor some of our books and then make them available for free to download. So if you're interested, we have a whole bunch of different books available that you can download. And again, we will share the slides, so they'll be in there as well. And then one particular note of interest for me personally. So we're working on this serverless Java in action book.  It's coming soon. And I think I saw Daniel here in the room, my co-author. But yeah. And with that, thank you. And if you have any questions, let us know either through all these channels or here in the room, because I think we still have a minute or two. We have five minutes, yeah. Thank you very much. If you have any questions, you can walk up to one of the microphones, I think, so don't be shy. Or you can also be shy, and then we can talk afterwards. We'll be at the Red Hat booth, I think, afterwards for questions. And if you want to see, I think you can probably show at the demo, or at the Red Hat booth, how Kepler works, right? Quick. Yeah, I think so. Out of the pocket demo. Yeah, yeah, I can do that. OK, we have a question. Thank you. My question is, did you ever check out if C states, like, we all know that a lot of hardware just has deep C states disabled for dubious reasons? Did you ever check out how much of an impact that enabling that actually makes in a whole fleet of thousands and billions and trillions and nodes? We didn't check that, not at all, but noted. And we want to take a look at more stuff, so that's good feedback. Thank you. Yeah, you can add it as an issue to the repository. Yeah, that's a good one. Thank you. Yeah, that's a good one.  Going twice. Thank you. Thank you very much.


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Live from San Francisco. Extracting the signal from the noise. It's theCUBE, covering Oracle Open World 2015. Brought to you by Oracle. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here live for day four coverage, day three, day zeros on Monday. This is theCUBE, our flagship program. We go out to the events, we start with the signal and noise. theCUBE is powered by SiliconANGLE Media, which is SiliconANGLE.com, publishing SiliconANGLE.tv, the CUBE, web TV, and of course, wikibond.com research. And we are on Howard Street where it's closed down, with 60,000 attendees at Oracle Open World. We just heard the post keynote coverage here. We got the keynote from Dave Donatelli. I'm John Furrier with Dave Vellop. They're Stu Miniman and Brian Casey, all analysts from wikibond.com. Dave, good to see you. First take on Dave Donatelli's first keynote as an Oracle executive, EVP reporting to Mark Herd, really has the DNA from formerly HP, formerly EMC, really laid out a bold statement that the end of the era is here. It's a big picture phrase, and then drilled down with speeds and feeds. We had Juan, then we saw John Fowler, really going into the meat on the bone. Dave, your take, Dave Donatelli's first keynote. Well, you know, it's interesting. Dave Donatelli said, I've been there before. I was basically alluding to the fact that he was at EMC for a number of years in HP. He's seen mergers. He talked about a number of companies that have died. I want to step back, John, and just point out that when Oracle bought Sun, I would say, I said at the time, it was one of the best acquisitions in the history of the computer industry. I'd put it right up there. Well, maybe behind VMware, and perhaps right up there with IBM's acquisition of PwC. What Oracle was able to do when it bought Sun, everybody thought it was going to jettison the low-end hardware business, keep Java. What it did is started on the journey of engineered systems. The interesting thing about that acquisition is Oracle was able to get back to its revenue multiples, its profit multiples, pre-acquisition. So if you look at Oracle, it is from a valuation standpoint as valuable as it was before the acquisition. Why is that important? It's important because Oracle is a software company. So it's getting valued as a software company, but it owns hardware assets. Cisco can't do that. EMC certainly couldn't do that. HP is trading at 45 cents on the dollar. Dell, before it went private, was under a dollar for every revenue dollar that it brought in. So Oracle is a powerhouse getting software evaluations, but it owns hardware. Guys, we're getting some commentary and engagement on CrowdChat from Phil Dunn, who's brought us up to the point we were talking about while Kino was going on. Is it a build-it-yourself generation, or do you buy or build, certainly in the tooling market we've been covering here in theCUBE for multiple days, people will build their own tools, but will people build their own platforms and where's the competitive advantage? And he also comments, as he talks to a lot of Oracle customers, he says for the thousands, hundreds of customers he meets every year, customers are tired of being integrated and don't have the R&D to acquire, assemble, and keep the stack running efficiently. That's why the engineered systems is booming. Thoughts, Stu, Brian, start with you, Stu. Yeah, so John, absolutely we agree in the movement of systems. Wikibon was very early talking about converged infrastructure, and if you look at how hybrid clouds are coming today, I want to build that stack, and customers have told us many times, I'd like to kind of have the same management, I'd like to have the same operational model, both what I do on-prem and what I do in the cloud. I mean, Oracle takes that to the extreme. They have the full stack from the silicon all the way up to the application. They want to really control it and they can really hyper-optimize it. They're not the only one hyper-optimizing it. People would say that Amazon is a commodity. Amazon hyper-optimizes. They know their applications, they move forward, and we said it's kind of a continuation of the stack wars that's going on. It's a big ecosystem here at this show, John, been talking to them all week, and there's a good battle for kind of Oracle versus everybody else. Brian, obviously this is the engine of innovation, John Fallow, Dave Donatelli. It's in the engine room, it's the speeds and feeds, but really it's power in the applications, ERP, CRM, HCM, and then a slew of ISV or building solutions. The past layer is critical there. Is this relevant? Does it all hang together? Is it just the same stuff that Microsoft's been doing and VMware's been touting? Does this hang together? Well, I mean, they made a lot of bold statements this week. A lot of the industry's saying software's eating the world. Oracle's kind of zigging when everybody else is zagging and saying we're doing software to hardware, chip to application. It's going to be interesting to see if the new application developers buy into that model or if this is really just a great chance for traditional Oracle people to move to the cloud. Dave. I think the other thing you got to remember, too, is a two trillion dollar business and Oracle's got 40 billion of it. So you can look at that as half full or half empty. The good news for Oracle is there's a ton of upside. The flip side of that is there's a lot of places where Oracle doesn't do business and those horizontal players still have opportunities. Dave, we had the opening keynote of the Golden State Warriors were on there and it was a sports metaphor. Obviously they won the championship last year, they did a big event last night, but it really is sports that takes the IT approach now. Managing your team, managing your company, managing your fan experience, that's an IT culture now. You had made a comment on the build versus buy as Scott McNeely's quote.  You really can't be both. Maybe you can. What's your thoughts? Well, I mean, you're right. You want to be a car maker. Oracle clearly wants to be a car maker. Now, in the case of Scott McNeely, that didn't really work out that well, right? Dell was the example of the car dealer, but at the same time, look at what Dell's doing. Both models can work. Car dealers can make a lot of money, but the real big dollars, the barons of industry are the car makers and that's what Oracle wants to do. Just a comment on that. I mean, Oracle has one of the crown jewels in IT. They've got an application that is super sticky out there. Customers aren't just going to leave it. Migration costs are so high and this is what runs customers' businesses. When we talk about why do I buy infrastructure or why do I even do applications, it's about business outcomes and Oracle's great at doing that. Guys, they have to power a lot of applications on top of that, so the database is core in memory. Back to the car analogy we saw and then Dave Donato's comment about the end of an era, EMC, IBM and all those guys kind of fumbling and is Oracle trying to position this as the Tesla? What Tesla did to the automotive industry, a whole new car, whole new engine, whole new way of doing things, is Oracle kind of the Tesla of the IT? Well, to me, the bottom line is cloud. Everybody knows that homogeneity accelerates cloud. The problem is it's hard to do homogeneity unless you own the application stack and that's Oracle's unique advantage. So yes, in a way, they are. If Oracle can win this platform, they have a broad set of Oracle on Oracle. If they go beyond the red stack, and the final two minutes we have here, I want to get your thoughts, if they go beyond the red stack and then can win the ISV explosion of apps in this new modern era, can they take winner take all, winner take most share in cloud thoughts? To me, the one, so a lot of bold statements about has and sass, the one thing that might worry me if I'm an Oracle executive is, you've got CIOs coming on stage saying, those applications are no longer business differentiated. They're commodity to my business. The things that are going to differentiate my business, I'm building my own platforms for those. So that's got to concern Oracle a little bit in terms of their platform strategy. Stu, final comes, we have a few seconds left. Anything you want to share? Yeah, so it's great to see strong executive team. As Dave mentioned, the piece of Oracle coming together, the enterprise has been a little slow to get to the cloud and Oracle's intersecting it right at the right time to be ready for this next battle. Okay, final comments from you. This is with the crowd captain on Twitter was talking about the management team wars, how the big acquisitions, the big consolidations, the team with the best management team will win. You're seeing Oracle stacking the Dextron price, new executive, got Dave Donatelli, obviously Dell just acquired all the EMC talent. Is this a new normal? Well, Oracle's consolidating from a position of strength and it's going to be there for quite a long time. And you know, it's got a ways to go before it can go outside of that narrow value proposition. 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I think this actually is towards Exodus Black strike I could be hung I normally am but yeah anyway you want to get up go up there so yes avoid all these enemies jump on your spell probably save you a little bit of time but oh well now why everybody else is playing iron banner and grinding them faction tokens and here's me making videos for you guys because that's what I like to do okay so it's just literally around this corner right there okay so let's see what we're gonna get and I'm gonna get nothing now how is that and why is that why do I keep getting nothing from these chests I don't get it I keep getting dud chests and now I know people say well there's a there's a time out and chests if you loot so many in a certain amount of time that you won't get loot from it but I've literally not looted anything today that's the first thing I've opened but it is what it is okay so on to the next one okay guys so the next one we're gonna get is this one right here now you think you'd have to spawn into Exodus Black to pick this one up but oh no I've been searching for the past 20 minutes to try and find this one and you don't go to Exodus Black at all so what you want to do is you want to spawn into Watchers Grave just like so once you are in you want to simply jump on your sparrow and head back on yourself so you want to head in this direction right here now there's actually two down towards here but we're gonna get this one first so it's probably the hardest one to find within today's video it is a bit of a pain I'm not gonna lie to you guys so yes just want to follow this route right here you're coming to this kind of cave system and there's two paths you can take in here you can go right or left and we're going left here forget about the public event if that's in here because it just well you know you can do if you want to really but yeah just remember which way you got to go it's left once you're in that cave so yeah come up in here and it's a things get a little bit tight which is all good and just follow your way all the way down and be careful here because you can just go off the edge on your sparrow so once you are here you can see that the chest is right there so you just want to make a way across by simply scaling these floating rocks which is pretty easy to be honest you'd be even harder though if they did move or disappear like the ones in the water glass that'd be pretty cool but yeah well that's bright that is super bright so let's go I know it's this way yeah this one took me so long to find oh almost fell off then yeah this one took me so long to find stop what you do what you're slinging me the wrong way damn okay so let's see if I get another dud chest hopefully not and it gives me five exotics oh god that's so one day if that's what happened with the first chest I didn't see anything pop out I didn't see anything pop out okay so until the next one okay so the next one we're going to grab is this one right here and again you need to spawn into watchers grave once you are in you simply want to pull out your sparrow and again head back on yourself just like so now we're heading to that kind of cave room again but this time instead of going left we're going to stick right now there's a few different places you can get to by going right so just make sure you follow my route exact and you will find this chest and my phone is vibrating like crazy now but yeah don't worry about that so come to this room and you want to go straight through and you want to aim for this little passage way right here now follow this around and you'll eventually come to this part right here which is where you need to jump off your sparrow because the chest is located up there so we simply just want to run and jump up and grab that also precious loot and I got a house of exile banner okay so until the next one okay so the next one is located right here so simple to get to you just simply want to spawn into a watchers grave just like so once you are in jump on your sparrow now this one's literally right you can't miss this it's literally right in front of you and the enemy is moving against each other and we can see it is up there under enormous branch so you simply want to jump upon to this tree I'm not even sure how you get up here but we will find we will figure out I'm guessing you go this way or not okay so you don't go that way oh this way there we go there we go you go that way almost lost a lot of lost there people excuse my noobness there we go and what's it gonna give me oh I got two blues and I got a weapon mod and a little fragment okay so on to the next one which is the final chest okay guys for the last one we're gonna get is this one right here now you can spawn into either artifacts edge or the watchers grave but we're gonna go with the watchers grave this time around so once you're spawning as I do right here right now you want to simply jump on your sparrow and follow the route I take now this one it's not difficult to find but I mean the place it points out to you on the map it's like not there so you're like well what have I got to do where I've got to go but it's actually in the left sector underneath which is actually located in a little sneaky room in there so I'll showcase it to you guys right here right now anyway so no worries if you can't find it but yeah so I just want to follow the route I'm taking you will come to the tangle I think this place is called whatever then you want to come down here I keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going and you'll see right here on your right there is a left sector this one right here so you just want to go into this and you'll see there's a little sneaky room somewhere here on your right right there little hill and pathway you go through here and the chest is right there in front you as simple as that people and this is the fifth and final cage six chest and I got two blues and a mud woohoo nice but guys they are K6 treasure 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My name is Raka Ardian. I'm from Indonesia and I'm studying Forensic Science at the University of Technology Sydney. The best thing in studying at the University of Technology Sydney is facility. I love the facility and the system of education. My favorite experience in Australia is about the transportation system, especially in New South Wales, and since I can travel anywhere easily. My motivation to studying in Australia is to improving my skill in Forensic Science, and secondly, I want to participate in strengthening the relationship between Indonesia and Australia. I would encourage another student to apply in Australian Awards because if you join with Australian Awards and you have opportunity to study in Australia, you will have strong advantage, especially about the network and education systems. Since I study about Forensic Science, I can implement all of my experience in Australia, especially about the new technique in Forensic Science, and especially the networking between Forensic expert in Australia and Indonesia.


I'm going to give you a name and you're going to tell me if it's a horse's name or an athlete's nickname. Mr. Frisky. Horse's name. That's a horse. That'd be a bad sports nickname. It is bad sports nickname. Horse. Horse. You're right. It's a horse. It's a horse. Super saver. Horse name. Horse name. Smart lady. Ringer of rain. Ringer of rain? Nickname. That ought to be a horse name. Athlete. Josh Donaldson. Galloping ghost. It's got to be a horse name. It's got to be a horse. That is an athlete. Bold. Orbs. I'm going to say horse. Horse. Horse. I'm looking for a horse. That's a horse. Oh yeah.


Today, welcome to Boodlosophy. My name is Tech. I'm recording on Wajah country in Perth, Western Australia and I recognize the traditional custodians of this land. Now I've received this parcel, so it's going to be an unboxing and this parcel is from Bandung, Indonesia. So all you boot lovers out there will understand what it means when I say Bandung, Indonesia. So here's this box from Bandung which I've received. It's totally well wrapped. This is a box from Santalam, handmade bookmakers in Indonesia. Let's get into it. So let's start opening up this incredibly well wrapped box. I mean it's wrapped in plastic as well as the box itself. So let me just get rid of the plastic first. There's going to be any damage in posting to this wrapping. Now let me talk a little about Santalam. It's one of the most well respected and slightly I think older bootmakers in Bandung, Indonesia. Bandung is the centre of Indonesian bootmaking with a lot of tradition that they inherited from the Dutch colonial masters and have carried on to this day. So that's the Santalam box. Quite an impressive little logo. Santalam on there. And let's open it up and see. Nice waxed paper. Shoe bags. There's one on top. Santalam Ferama Spiritu. I don't know what that means in Latin but I'll have a look at it. Established 2010. So it is one of the older bootmakers in Bandung. They are handmade made to order boots. Two types of laces. Round cotton waxed and flat cotton waxed. Oh, actually they come with three laces because on the boot itself are some leather laces. So these boots are wrapped in plastic. Another shoe bag. I'll take them both out of the plastic and show you the boots. So this is the milestone model. A Cacto service boot. You can basically use the basic model and design it in any way you like. So in this case I chose a local Indonesian veg tan leather and I asked them for a rough out makeup of that Indonesian leather. I wanted this to be as locally produced as possible to help out the Indonesian bootmakers. The third laces they come in is warhide. And as you can see the smooth side of the laces on the inside and this is the rough out. And it's quite a rough rough out. Because they are made to order you choose the basic design and then you can really change it up. So in this case I asked for a partially structured toe because I like that to collapse over time. You can choose the hardware. How many eyelets, how many hooks, what types of eyelets or hooks. I asked for a Veltron designed construction which is a form of a stitch down construction, 270 degrees Veltron. I chose the threads and I asked for it to be red threads just to show a bit of contrast. So you can basically, once you've got the basic design, choose almost any type of makeup that you like based on the boot. I asked for a Dr. Soul cork half sole which is the first Dr. Soul sole I've ever had. So that's going to be an interesting tryout. You can see it's a double leather midsole. One, two pieces of leather there and the actual Veltron itself. And I'm not sure this is actually a very thin welt. The heels are stacked leather and then you get the Dr. Soul cork. The construction as far as I can see is pretty good. The stitching on this very rough Indonesian rough out is pretty good. The sole is hand stitched on. This is machine stitched but guided by hand. And the other boot also looks pretty impressive. I think some of the nap on the rough out is quite nappy but I think it will eventually settle down and burnish with wear and use. Brass tacks tack on the edge of the sole there. The stitching on the sole is very impressive. Alright so let's get these on foot. Try them on for fit and sizing and comfort. So here's the tryout. Partly gusseted up to the eyelet. One, two, three, fourth eyelet. I asked for a seven inch boot so it needed an extra hook at the top. Let's try it. So the process includes first contacting them which is not the easiest thing in the world because they don't have a website. And the contact is usually made through direct messaging on Instagram. I'm talking. I'm pulling on these raw hide laces. They are very thin and I'm not sure they're going to last that long. So I'm probably going to change to one of those cotton laces that they also give you. Yes on first contact you tell them what you might be interested in. There's an exchange of different photos and talks about style and you get to do the design. They'll ask you to take some drawings of your foot and some certain measurements and then they'll tell you sort of what size it is. These fit alright. I think they're actually a bit wide for me but with thicker socks I think that might be fine. Proper boot socks. Let's try the other one on. So we ended up at a size European size 41 which is kind of my normal European size and I know that I bought say Echo boots and other European style boots in that size. But these I have to say once they're on foot feel actually slightly bigger than what I'm used to as a size 41. The leather is an Indonesian leather, veg tan and it doesn't feel as tough as other veg tan leathers but in fact quite supple. Do quite like this. So after you've completed your discussions about design and so on they asked you to pay 50% upfront and it's promised to take 10 weeks. But in this case there was a religious holiday in the middle so it ended up being about 8 weeks. I might just roll up my calf seat and see the top of the boot. So a 16 week turnaround for these you know that's quite a long way and in the middle of it was a bit of radio silence which A annoyed me and B really worried me and stressed me out. And I think you have to be prepared for that because they definitely do not have a back office system to keep you informed. Yeah these fit pretty good but I think they are wide and I'm going to have to wear them with thicker socks. The leather is nice and supple. I can feel it does need breaking in. The veg tan midsole is pretty tough and I can also feel that needs breaking in. There is a bit of a push up in here. I'm not quite sure why. I can feel it pushing up to my foot. That may be the shank and the build up of the arch support. And as usual what I'll do is wear these for a while and then I'll bring you a longer term review. So there you go guys my unboxing and initial thoughts about these boots from Santalum. I do think that the leather is a little rough and ready but I chose Indonesian leather because I wanted to keep everything as local for them as possible. But I think it will actually breaking quite nicely feel supple. So it feels like it needs breaking in but it will be a supple journey. They are a bit broader than what I'm expecting despite my measurements. So I'm not quite sure why that is. They are not hugely long. They're just a wider fit. So I think I just need to be reconciled to wear these with thicker socks. So as usual what I'll do is I'll wear these for three to six months and then I'll bring you a longer term review about the boot maker. What I can tell about the leather, the doctor's soles and how I find them fitting and if they're worth the bet. Until then take care and I'll see you soon.


Rwy'n f bastion dda gutwch o gyngorau'r loglehau? A oedon ni'n goll i gael i'r ll Dunedot. I'm very proud of myself but proud of my mum as well. I look as if I do all but the main work comes from my mum. She does most of it. I smile, speak but my mum puts in the hardwork behind her and I can't go very far without her so she's helped me get here and I think she helped me get even further. Felly yw'r ffaith fawr. Mae wedi cael ei ddweud o wneud hynny i chi'n gweithio'r bod y fawr i ni yn gymryd i chi'n gweithio'r fawr. Felly mae'n gweithio'n gwneud.