And the trend. Cool. And so Pete, oh, thank you. Yeah. How can we best set up newsletter information stream? Thank you. I appreciate that question a lot. I think the main thing is if we go to the if we go to the inbox document and write up whatever we know about OGM, at least, it would be super helpful. Which inbox document do you mean? There's a document where I kind of this one. Oh, good. I'd miss that one somehow. Cool. Google Doc. So especially I can't believe that Google Doc doesn't have line numbers. But anyway, one of the first things we can talk about conversations, we can talk about, I don't know. Now you and I created a page on OGM, actually on the OGM website for current projects. Which I was showing Stacy yesterday. Do we want to ignore that? Or do we want to post to it in some way here? Or what's possible? I, let's see, let me find that page. Now, that's clearly open global line projects because it's under the OGM umbrella on the OGM website. And you're publishing mostly about the flotilla, I think. No, this is supposed to be whatever. Well, by flotilla, I mean the various allied groups. Well, yeah. So if you look down, the pretty guys you folks have got actually, I think, a really good update. So, you know, there should be an OGM section basically in OGM. Here's what's going on with OGM. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's kind of what I mean. So then I don't see the not current projects. Cool. I'm not going to copy over Chove. So here's what's on the current projects. And if we can fill this out, that would be fun. Flotilla, we've already got two. So I think maybe we can say something about build OGM. I don't know. The conversations thing is something that is kind of new in the past couple of weeks. And most, you know, not everybody would know about, if you weren't in the mailing list, you wouldn't know about the conversations going on there. This is also an opportunity to kind of stood the conversations to Mademois channel as if we want to, we could set those up now actually. Which has not worked at all, has it? Like our request to shift the conversation over to Mademois, just... Well, we, well, it's different. We haven't really requested it. So I think we talked about setting up a maybe a money and value channel. And we talked about maybe setting up a different one, which I thought was the Civil War. I don't know if that was, but anyway, I don't think we set up channels for this. I don't think we directed channel, directed people specifically to a channel. Specifically into the topics. We haven't, we haven't killed the mailing list, but I know that happened to do that. I just want to say something about the Civil War thing, because I think what's happening is what there was something within the Civil War thread that happened to be what Sam Rose was talking about. And I think that so those two conversations are getting confused into, you know, because it's called Civil War, but that particular conversation that led to a pop-up call wasn't about the Civil War. And when I typed Civil War into the, into the stock, it was a couple of weeks ago, and we could have to go or something like that. And we, I, I, the Civil War, Civil War conversation has kind of stalled out, I would say probably. And we could replace that with the sense making conversation. Well, that, that's where I created the Sense Doing Channel on Mattermost and said, hey, let's carry it over here. And that, that's the fail I'm referring to. Is that no, like, pretty much nobody went over there. Actually, Kevin made a couple posts over there in the channel. And then Johan apparently stalled trying to build a Mattermost ID and just log in to the server, which is now fixed. So thank you for that. So, so if, if we wanted the conversation to move, then just a quiet request isn't good enough, right? We'd have to have a barn raising thing, you know, probably email individual people directly and say, you know, can you move over to Mattermost? And then you, and then on the mailing list, you can, you know, once the conversation is going a little bit on the, on the channel, you can go to the mailing list and say, hey, look, this is what we've just talked about. You're missing, you know, this stuff. But also, I think copying the mailing list and pasting it in to the Mattermost, it might be helpful, because then it's like, hey, look, we just copied everything we've said here, and it's over there. Keep going over there. And then probably, in addition to what you just said, giving everybody a little bump when they post on this topic back to the mailing list and say, it's over there. Okay. And should there be a different channel for the money conversation, which we haven't set up? It depends on, let me look at Mattermost real quick. And maybe I'll show my screen while I do that. It depends. It depends how much we feel like we can support, you know, if it's, if it's, if it's a conversation that, that's kind of a small conversation and time bound, then, then I'm not sure I would make a separate, separate channel for it. If it's going to be, if we're going to pump energy into, into the channel, and it's going to be an ongoing conversation, then, yeah, it makes sense to do it. I've got, for what it's worth, Rob, Rob and I are starting to talk a little bit about reorganizing a bit. Mostly actually to Rob's idea was to use the prefix, the prefixes for more things to organize, to organize this better, the list of things that aren't prefixed. I've got, I've got a really good post for a money channel. So if OGM doesn't want to start a money channel, I think I probably would for CSC, basically. And then OGM could have a money conversation in that channel if it wanted to. Another thing that has gone on is that we've got a bunch of channels that are not, not well used. And so Rob's observation was, you know, my sidebar is getting long. And part of that is just channels that, that, you know, got started, but haven't really, really thrived. And I, I think maybe we should start trimming those and, you know, so I guess it's not OGM's responsibility to do, do the rest of those channels. But foreign beat reporting should go away, probably co-coaching maybe go away, or we should try to revive it. Partly if, if, if Mademois had a feature that said show me, don't show me, don't show me channels that haven't had any activity in the last two months. If it's just had a feature like that, we wouldn't have to worry about this because the things would sort of naturally sunset themselves. And then every now and then you could browse the wall. Yeah. A newer version of the mobile one already does this, a new version of Mademois will sort. Right, which is how, which is how I catch up, which is how I catch up. There's, there's just, you know, there's, there are channels that just don't need to exist. Like foreign beat reporting as well. Yeah. I guess I haven't really thought about, about archiving news or whatever, but, you know, I think it's hard for me to say that there should be an OGM Wiki channel. The Outreach channel is, you know, the Welcome Wiki channel. You know, there's just channels that there's, there's no reason for them to be around, basically. So even if they were sorted someplace, you know, it's, it's just cruft. So on the money conversation, it feels to me like there's sort of at least two conversations there. One was the broader umbrella, one was Grace's specific project. I invited Grace to create her own channel around the project, which feels like a good idea. But I don't know that she's comfortable in the matter most chats yet. And she hasn't taken us up on that. But we could ask and figure out if she'd like to do that because that feels like a good place to coordinate what she's trying to get done. Go ahead, Stacy. The sense I got from her is just that she was really busy right now and she needed a few weeks, but she was interested. I think she was interested. Cool. And then, and then the other one feels to me like a really big, broad conversation that cuts across our different projects and maybe doesn't need to be held in any one of the entities about money, value, wealth, abundance, all those kinds of things. And it's like, I think there's, there's a rich conversation there that certainly like is channel sized. So maybe we start one for that. And then say, hey, Grace, ping whenever you want and we'll help you start your own project channel. But for now, let's take this conversation over there. Does that make sense? I would, it does make sense. To start that second channel, I think I would, or the other channel, I think I would ping some of the usual suspects and ask them if they would participate or not. So creating a channel out of whole cloth and then hoping people attend is we don't, we don't have the, we don't have the kind of the volume that makes that happen. So the thing to do is to construct the channel a little bit socially and then launch it if we can construct it socially. Which we could also do by picking a topic and making a call around it and saying, okay, here, we're going to do this and curate it and guide that conversation over onto the channel, et cetera, et cetera. That would be one, one thing that would help. That would definitely help. It's important to get personal commitments from at least a few people or maybe commitment is even too strong of a word. But instead of having a thing that says, here's a discussion we're having and here's a place where we could have it. That's not enough to draw the link, right? Here's a discussion we're having and here I've asked three or four or five or six people, I'm going to make a discussion. Can you be posting it this week? I'm going to make a channel. If we start having conversations here, would you attend? Would you push things? Would you bring up stuff? And making it personal, making it a personal ask rather than a group ask that nobody feels, everybody feels like somebody else is going to be making, you know, making stuff. Let me ask the question backwards. Aside from coffee shop type, whatever, you know, anything goes kind of channels, which are the most successful channels right now in your eyes? The weirdest thing, I'm very super pleased, but I'm super surprised off topic. It's got the most people in it. And it's probably got a large amount of traffic. But off topic and town square and coffee shop are all sort of similar. Right. Of the focus channels, are there any that are actually thriving? Because maybe this community just doesn't use this medium in that way. That's what I'm wondering. Yeah, the, well, it's almost a different thing, right? So any community conversation social stuff is long tail. Preto, what's the best word for that? So there are one or two people who are the anchor posters. Right. And then, you know, it trails off from there. If you don't have an anchor poster, the rest of the people won't think about posting into it. If you do have an anchor poster, you get people that post along because, oh, it looks like there's activity here. So I used to see my screen, right? Yeah. The green bar is one away for some reason. So that whole anchor poster thing is leading up to, so Block Cheney has got some reasonable stuff. Books is new, actually, I think by Rob. Game based sense making, Jack's doing anchor posting, I think, and it's got some, you know, some traffic. And Stacey, that might be interesting for you for the idea you were suggesting at the beginning of this call too. I didn't even know it was there. Yeah. Mass mapping is active. And there's a, this one is kind of interesting. I think there's, it's not quite, it's got enough, it's got enough volume from a few people that it's kind of self-sustaining that tools and technology is a really good, that's an active one. And then for their, I'm the anchor poster, tools and technology is a good example of, of an active channel. Didn't even know there was UX of knowledge. Yeah, I think this is fairly new. And I don't think it's got, it doesn't, yeah, it doesn't have critical mass at all. So, so, so instead of saying, I think this community is there, you know, maybe this community doesn't, doesn't converse that way. The way I, the way I look at it, we haven't, we haven't set up the conditions for the community to use, use any of the channels well.  And well, some people like Jack Park is really active in a bunch of places on it. Rob is active. Charles has sort of come back in and is posting and, you know, he's not, he's not in our zooms, but he's on the, on the Mattermost. There's a few people who kind of like it and frequented and bounce around to that. But as a community, we're not using it that well. And I just, what's going on here? I just restarted Mattermost because I rebooted my machine last night and it's only showing me like one channel. That's weird. I, I had a weird thing the other day, last week or something like that where it was, it was really confused and I actually uninstalled the app and reinstalled it. Really? Yeah. Cause I'm, I'm, I'm only coming back up into free jury's brain, which was the last channel I had active. Everything else is gone. My direct message history is gone. Everything's gone. Yeah. Are you using the app? Yeah. I don't know what that is, but I would uninstall it and reinstall it. Okay. I'm just going to restart it and see if that helps at all. You can also hit it on the web browser if you want to see what's going on. Yeah. Wow. That's weird. So Pete, I think you're absolutely right about the anchor posters. And I'm, I'm just wondering if we had again a conversation because we have people that like to talk about which channels to even have. Like I'm just thinking like with kids, when you want to get them to eat, you help, you have them make the meal. I'm just wondering if we spoke to those main people that are putting all the posts and the emails and we said to them, what channels do you think that we should, you know, divide into and would you be committed to, you know, at least get two people for each channel to, to like sort of monitor it. That might be a good idea. I like that idea, except I think I would make it even simpler than that. And to use the kid, kid eating analogy, we learned with our first kid that asking, asking them what do you want to eat wasn't, wasn't a good question. It was, do you want to eat pizza or, or noodles today and force the question, right? There's one difference. Kids have to eat. People don't necessarily have to take the responsibility for posting. So, so I wouldn't even have the conversation about what channels do you think we should have. What I would say is, hey, we've got a conversation, we think there's a nascent conversation about value and money. It seems like we've had some success with that. Would you post to a channel called OGM value, value, money and value? So don't even say which channels do you think because that's a big universe of possibility, right? It's like just a binary thing. So how about, how about which ones might you want to help take responsibility for? Yeah, that's okay. I would simplify it even to that from that, you know, it's like a binary choice. There's a value, money and value channel waiting to happen. Are you in? And then if, if we get no, even if we get crickets, then it's like, okay, build OGM call next week is brainstorming three more choices and we narrow it down to one. Would you post in a, in a conversation about soil health, would you post? Actually, the other thing is we've got some generative comments that is a place where we've got a little cul-de-sac that we built that nobody, nobody attends, right? So we should also try to fill in conversations we think we want to have that we've kind of gotten started and, you know. And where is, I'm sorry, I kind of, where is that place where we would put in conversations that we want to have? In the build OGM channel. I think I, to the, to the general population, I would ask a binary question.  And, and then I wouldn't ask that in plenary until I've asked personally and gotten a positive answer from a couple of people, right? Right, got it. So, so then if nobody rises to the bait on money and values, then next week build OGM the channel and gets to talk about, you know, okay, I guess either we either we need to double down on our outreach or we need to kill that idea and come up with the next one, which is social justice and, you know, and, and global equity or something like that, you know, whatever, right? Is there a channel just for collaboration, just for information regarding collaborations? What kind of collaborations? Anything like just, you know, getting, you know, any kind of information about getting communities to work better together, any channel related to that? Tools and technology, oddly enough, is, is pretty good at that. So Tilla does some of that too. Okay, I kind of dropped something in the new sense doing channel. Yeah. So maybe in this conversation, what we've come to, come to is that OGM is kind of meh on, on Manamos in general. Maybe it's a good, like, place for people to belong to so they get announcements and stuff. And maybe, well, the way I think of it is we haven't done enough to foster conversations here. But another way to think of it is that OGM, however it's set up, you know, doesn't, doesn't want to have conversations here. So I really, I really like the Manamos server. I think that we've had multiple really interesting conversations there, but they kind of, you know, spark and die. And we don't, and we have a few people who are stalwarts, but not really the community over here talking. And I'd love to do that, to have us like over here, rather than over on the, on the Google group. And I don't, and I, to make that happen, we have to facilitate it. Yes, exactly. And one alternative also is to like kill the group group. And I just don't really want to do that. But that means we have to light a fire over here and get people over by the bonfire. So instead of, instead of a topic based thing, maybe we could start building volume in an OGM general channel. So I think calls should get renamed to something like general. However, if we, you know, we want to language that and then, and then we could actually even do money value conversations in the general channel. I think the facilitation team would want to have kind of a public topic, topics calendar. And purposely, you know, purposely start conversation there. And, and again, drag people into it by the lapel and say, okay, this week, we're going to talk about, you know, since string, we already have a channel for. So I guess we would have that conversation there. But maybe if a topic comes up, a new topic comes up on the mailing list, then, you know, drag that person, the main person over and plop them down in the general channel. And then announce the fact that it's moving. So should I start an email or should one of us start an email right now to six people asking about money and value? Um, I think maybe, um, I think, let me share again, to keep bouncing back and forth. Or should we ask, should we invite the six or eight people we think have been most active on matter most and like it the most and contribute the most and have a strategizing call with them and say, Hey, here's, I like that. Yeah. I don't, I don't, except I don't think we need to um, there's a little bit of analysis by paralysis there. Um, we did three of us or quorum for doing, you know, deciding what and I'm thinking that it's the same thing as the email asking them, Hey, would you participate if it were called this that like, if it's going to, you know, we could send an email and wait for responses or we could just say, Hey, let's, let's get together. Here's what we're thinking. That's all I'm thinking. Um, so I like the idea of sending email. Um, another, another, another proposal I've got is to take the calls channel and call it the anchor channel. Um, and then rename it to something better than calls. This section, this channel actually has, you know, a decent number of people and it gets decent traffic. Um, and people know it's here. So we name this to OGM main. Yeah, something like that. Um, let's see, CTA actually had a general discussion. That's a really good one. Anyway, yep. Yeah, I just want to say I think the reason that people, and we should ask, but I think the reason that that has a lot of things that people go there to look at the recordings of the calls. Yes. And, um, we purposely, uh, Jerry did a human's job for, um, for a couple months saying, okay, um, please stop talking in the zoom chat and go to this channel, this particular channel. Um, so we, you know, and that's one of the reasons we've got 74 people in here and one of the reasons people keep coming back to it. It's partly for the, the call posting for me actually partly it's because the link is here. Um, but it's also because we push people here a lot. Um, so we need to rename this main or general discussion or whatever. Um, and then have the money conversation start here and then if it gets critical mass and needs to be spun out to its own channel, we do that. Um, but we might want to market this channel by having the money value conversation here rather than starting a separate money and values channel. I kind of like that, but I kind of don't because I sort of, um, it would swamp, you know, it would, it would kind of push out people having other conversations. Right. Right. Um, and, and in a strange way that channel now serves as the archive for the videos and the chat files and whatever else if somebody wants to find them. And that would, that would actually get harder to do if it was, if this was an active channel about some other topic. Um, go ahead. What about if it was like, you know, build is after the call. So you go there to watch the call and then you could talk about the call there and then you see what conversations come out. But like, you know, there would be the, you know, you would, you're expecting to go there to talk about the call. So it's there, the zoom link is there and any conversation you want to have it. It's a good idea that the promise, the, the calls are like a different modality. So when people leave the call, they don't think they want to discuss it more. They're like, it's like after Thanksgiving, right? Wow, that was amazing. And but I'm going to, and I want to ask Jerry if he feels the same way, because I know you feel that way, but I think there are a lot of people that really, I mean, that really want to go back to the fall. I mean, Jerry, how do you feel? And I like the idea a lot of the conversation continuing in the channel.  They're like, no, no, no, this thing didn't feel right. What about this? I mean, so maybe a way to do the transition is to start the like screen share manner most. It's like, okay, we've had some amazing stuff about blah, and get a couple posts going so that people can see it.  People are like all jazzed and they're seeing all the faces and stuff like that. It's like, oh, this is amazing. It's really different to go, okay, now I'm going to go over to this thing where there's no faces. There's, you know, there's, there's no voice. There's, so at least getting the, I think getting the conversation starting to move over during the call, pick a topic at the end of the call, do like a 90 second or two minute screen share, you know. So, oh look, Pete's already posted something and Stacy's already posted something. Let's keep it going over here. So, so a couple different things. One, trying to get people to use matter most again during the calls instead of the chat. The only way I see that actually working really well is if Zoom had a feature that lets you swap out the Zoom chat for your favorite chat on some other server, in which case it would just show up in the interface and we'd be, we'd be gold. Short of that, I don't know that we're going to be able to shepherd people over to the call, the chat during the call. I think we did a good job of it before. I think we tried really hard and it was just like hard. I think we gave up. Well, I think because it was like hard to keep shepherding. Like, you know, the dogs had to keep pounding the sheep. Or yeah, of course it's hard. That's, you know, but that's. But do you think that would be worth the effort? Oh yeah. Okay. And then the second thing is really, there's three or four people who've been posting a bunch lately about whether it's money or the civil war topic or whatever else. If we get, if we just stay on those couple of people to go post on the channels, that moves the conversation. You just get the frequent posters to move and the conversation has to move. And that's, that's Kevin and Ken Homer and a couple of the people. So. Gil, maybe Grace. Right. Right. So we just, we just like address them and say, hey dudes, we really want this thrive over here. That'll work. I have a matter of observation. One part of me is going, is, is, is, I was racially going, crap, we're not doing the inbox document at all. The other part of me is going, yay, this is what, this is what the violent community dispatch is supposed to do.  But I guess I am right. So it's, it's the, the plex dispatch is doing its job, even though we're not talking about it at all. I'm cool. And we can go back to that. And also, I'm being a little cranky about stewarding people over to the matamos chat during calls only because, only because it didn't seem to stick that well. Not that I wouldn't love that to happen. I happen to think Jerry's right, because there are two different kinds of personalities. So yes, I know you think Pete that, and there will be people that will do it, but there will be other people that are more like the way Jerry and I think. I totally agree. There's two different kinds of personalities. My, can I just add one? I just want to say something because you mentioned before about seeing the faces. So here's my point. If there is an after conversation, people going there are going to first be the same people that were in the call. So it is almost a continuation of seeing those faces. And maybe even a second call will be planned within that area. So it is a blend of the two approaches. Michael, a channel, a channel is probably only going to be as good as the people who are in there posting. So sorry. So yes, Stacy, you're totally right. There are two different kinds of people. And my point is that unless you show the people who are never going to come to Mattermost that there's something happening in Mattermost, they're really never going to come. So my, and Jerry, I get it. It's totally fine to be cranky about that. We collectively haven't put enough work into facilitating moving, shepherding conversations. And when it feels hard, that's not because we should give up. When it feels hard, that means that we should maybe talk about why it feels hard or maybe sometimes just double down and do it. Facilitating is hard work. It's not, it's helping people do things that feel not natural. Like in-person facilitation when you're in a room, it's like the facilitator is bugging us again. All I want to do is have a cocktail party. And the facilitator is trying to get some, to form the cocktail party into a world cafe or something because, and at some point, the reason people nowadays will, back in the before times when we actually had in-person things, the reason people will sit still for a facilitator and do world cafe is not because world cafe is a natural thing. It's because they've done it a couple of times before and the rest of the community is doing it around them if they haven't done it before. And everybody knows that the world cafe is going to be a productive and generative discussion. Even though it's like, all I really wanted to do is come and gossip. I don't know, but when the whole herd moves over to world cafe, it's like, okay, let's do it. And then afterwards, everyone goes, wow, that was super generative and super productive. It's the same thing. We don't have a, we don't have a culture of people understanding you and why you would chat in Manamos, right? So if we just observe that people don't chat in Manamos and follow that, then we're never going to build the muscle memory and the culture and the memories of positive things that means that, oh, I want to have a conversation and I'm going to go to Manamos because it was fun last time, right? We just don't do that yet and I think we should. And we could. Michael, two things. One, your image is coming through really crisper than usual and you are well lit.   That's some work done. Yeah, actually, I do have a better light on and that's probably the difference. And that's it? Like because you're fed up? I mean, I'm in a different place than I often am. But this is a place I've been before without you saying that and what is different here is the fact that I've got a better lighting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sweet, well done. And then the second thing was a question. I think you were in our OGM Thursday calls when we were pushing sort of trying to hold the chat over on Mattermost, correct? Yeah, yeah. And I was just I was actually just typing into chat, you know, if we're talking about fostering Mattermost over Zoom chat and perhaps over email and other disparate things, I was sort of sorry as somebody who like at first grudgingly because it seemed unnatural, but then, you know, more in a more satisfied way, went over to Mattermost and tried to be in Mattermost, but then the floodgates opened in Zoom chat and that turned into the place to be.  I mean, during a call. And I it's not because I don't wish that were the case. It's just because that's not what the conversation is. Yeah, that's not where the conversation is. And and you I think you and everybody were more concerted about, hey, the chat's not here, you know, just posting that and pushing people over to Mattermost. And I know some people just refuse to go. But What's the value in having the chat in Mattermost or does it not? Totally. No, I thought it was better because, you know, it allows you to attach images and links and those good things. It keeps it persistent. It allows it to go on beyond the end of the call. It allows you to immediately read back if you mean I mean, there's everything. Everything is better about it, honestly, except that it's another window, except that it's another window. But even that is sort of an advantage because I'm so trying to work out not having share screen hijack my zoom into full screen, which I think I did manage to do in one browser and then walk. Yeah, I found a trick where if you right click over the arrows that over the widgets to give you screen thing, you can do split screen right. And what I was doing was I was splitting the screen between Mattermost on the right and zoom on the left. And that worked out pretty well because then I had a then I had a big Mattermost chat and I could still see everybody in the tiles and gallery view. Yeah, the only problem is like making anything out when the screen is being shared, you know, you it's too small. Yeah, meet as a horizontal image in a vertical pane. But yeah. But anyway, aside from that minor drawback, I did think there was value in Mattermost. And beyond the immediate value, like, you know, getting everybody in Mattermost and with its capacity for, you know, asynchronous direct messaging and, you know, searchability. I mean, it's not quite slack, but it's pretty good. And then certainly zoom chat is so ephemeral, you know, and I save the chats, but like I barely have the energy to go back through them to find the stuff that I think very few people go back and consult them. Okay, so an easy thing to do is to make another effort to move the chats during the calls over to zoom. The second thing to do I think is to, I think we create a money conversation channel, money and value or something like that, just let's go create it. And then let's go take the three or four instigators on that thread on the Google group and say, Hey, there's a nice new fresh plot of grass for you. It's yummy grass. It's really good. It's tasty. We planted like special tasty grass and carry it over there. And then come back into the group and say, Hey, everybody, there's like good stuff happening over here. Come follow us, etc. So let's do a little architecting. And then maybe a fourth thing is going back to our moderator group and saying, Hey, can you help us? What do you think? What else should we do? How's this working? Yep, sounds right. I have one question about the Google group, which I have just, I don't know. I'm sure Pete, you were the one to like notice, Hey, there's a new application for being in the OGM or the discourse. Yeah, the forum. The forum. I just joined the forum. Maybe I was auto responded to, but I figured I thought maybe somebody saw, Oh, God, we've got our first new membership and, you know, over many years. But I was looking around there and, you know, I know that Pete, you said it wasn't a valid force of action to like keep it there. I are privately because of privacy issues and all the work that we're doing. So that, yeah, I mean, Stacey, it is being closed down.  We're going to keep it the the information. We're not going to. Oh, okay. It'll be we don't like there's no privacy stuff. That's that's a problem. Okay. Okay. It's just going to be static. Okay. Okay. It's still viewable. Yeah. My, well, my question is only partially moved. I mean, the other thing I was, I was wondering about was, and this gets into the conversation that Pete, we were having in CTA context about chat slash communication in which every message was a file, which I also might have partially misunderstood. I'm not sure. But that is very interesting to me in the context of like these forum posts and, you know, ones that would be, you know, there are posts that are something like, you know, what he said, you know, or what she said that nobody's going to look for.  The forum posts, you know, you could more or less do that with a forum post. Like just as a URL, as a link. You could do it as a link. Yeah, if to take massive wiki for an example, I would actually copy the whole post over as well and then put a link to the original so that you could find the thread and stuff like that. Vincent might do that with trove too. In fact, or you could do that too, Yeah, I mean, it would be manual unless there was, you know, an OSS. Yeah, I think there isn't any automation that does that, but it's, you're totally right. And that was kind of, there was some intent to do that a little bit with the wiki, to use the wiki as a place, OGM wiki, to use the wiki as a place where you would construct, you know, since make the stuff that's turning over in the forum into something a little bit more the funny thing is, the forum is actually already kind of it ends up being an archive of good stuff pretty much. So it would be another good way to do it would be to have a post or a thread, I forget what you call it, a thread on OGM forum, best stuff, right?  I've got need for, we've got need for things more metamaskized as individual files. And that's going to be a good thing to use in massive wiki with syncing. And that's why that's coming up. But it's interesting to talk about those things kind of together because the way Bill and I are starting to use massive wiki, we, you know, it's, we don't have the git cycle, it just flows, you know, you just do the massive wiki and it and it flows. So grabbing stuff like this post off of the forum and putting them in a wiki and then having that kind of filter around the network of wikis that are connected together is, is kind of a thing that could happen. And I mean, I think, sorry, Jerry, we'll get to you. All right. It's fun to see you in the role of thing that I would love to crack is that, you know, figuring out a way for massive wiki and trove and factor and to like, if you're adding a tag in one interoperate to the extent that it like can help people find stuff in another because the tag appends there, which I know is a tall order and I have no technical knowledge of how that can come. One way to start it is for somebody to stamp a UID on that post unique identifier of some kind and then as it floats around, you know, trove could have or a factor or a massive wiki could publish a thing or it's like, okay, we've just added, you know, the tag energy policy to UID, whatever. And then it's a good idea.  And then of course, before that, there was like Usenet and and that was doing a bunch of that work that now we just don't even know about and, you know, we don't pick up the technology. It's really weird how that happens. Jerry. Oh, thanks. So several things. And I've got a bounce at the top of the hour to a different call. One of my longtime frustrations, one of the inspiration, motivating forces for OGM is I've been on way too many private mailing lists where brilliant things get written and float on by and they go into the bit bucket because it's a private mailing list that's not searchable by Google. And I created a policy I didn't promote way back when for Wrex, which was, hey, let's post outside in, which means if you're about to have a really nice idea, don't write the whole idea in the damn email and send it to this private mailing list, go make a blog post or whatever the present technology is of that time and then send us a link to that thing. And then we can have the conversation in semi-public and that benefits you, that benefits everybody, gets the idea, et cetera. I didn't really promote the idea of post outside in and nobody much does that, although a bunch of people are busy writing posts and all that kind of stuff. So that's one of my frustrations. So given that occasionally a bright little nugget floats by in the stream, I not infrequently will copy that nugget and then post it on a private thought in my brain that says Michael's thoughts about sense making, right? And I'll just put it under you and I might connect it to the call where it occurred and then I'll paste the text that went by into the notes field of that thought in my brain and that's just like, it dies in obscurity in my brain, but I'm busy trying to curate those and bring them out. Then another, an aspect of what we've been trying to do in our GM is try to separate the data layer away from the apps so that as anybody's busy tagging, curating, improving some node, it's better for everybody and it's improved for everybody and we can all just kind of point to it and refer to it and the curation just happens in whatever tool anybody happened to use. That's a nice idea, but it doesn't really work yet. In principle, it's one of the reasons why I think markdown is interesting and why Pete is sort of over, you know, using markdown as a foundational structure for massive wiki, et cetera, et cetera. But we don't have like meta data layered on top of that properly and like we fail at it, it's more complicated than just, hey, there's a bunch of markdown files over there. And then also we're busy drowning in flows and we don't have enough stocks. And then there's this whole conversation about, okay, so what should the stock look like? What does the big fungus look like? What is this scaffolding or infrastructure for the long-term shared memory? In particular, when we're using a variety of exotic tools, more or less, to curate and to create these nuggets of memory, right? And we don't have that question answered really well either, but it's a really nice and dearing question that, you know, that if we manage to separate the data from the tools, I think that answer gets better somehow. I think that having a healthy layer of soil, of data as soil alone, is maybe metaphorically closer to the big fungus and also like maybe a place to aim. So for me, like I'm in frustration, I'm busy curating those nuggets when I see a good one float by, I'm like, damn, I got to capture that and put it someplace where I'll find it. And hopefully somebody else will also find it here too. But if that were an easier way to do that in common, that would be fantastic. And last thing I want to say was, in some sense, this is like live crabbing of good conversations, whether they're happening live in the zoom and in the chat, or whether they're happening on some mailing list or whatever, but you know, the active crabbing or context weaving or whatever we call it, is this and we should all more of us should be busy being practitioners of that in a way that is easily shared. Yeah. I love that, Michael. And I'd like to put that matter most, but I don't see a matter most chat for this call. So there is a build out here. Yeah, but I looked and saw that it was not called yet. So I'll stick it in there anyway, out of context. Yeah. And I must bounce. I'm happy to leave the call open or we can we can fold anyone. Let's fold. Okay. Yeah, I got to my doorbell anyway. So cool. Oh, wait, wait, wait, one thing, one thing. You can turn off the recording if you want. But I got seven responses to what I asked you guys for. However, and I don't know, well, two people, well, yeah, that's another thing. Two people though, didn't fill out all nine. And I really need all nine. The other thing is, I don't know if two of you are some of the people I know I have Wendy and Ken. Yeah, I did. And well, I don't want to know if you did nine or how many he's going to go. Yeah, I gotta go. Go ahead, Jer. I'm sorry. But anyway, yeah, how do I so okay, I just want you to know so you put something there. If you're one of the people that didn't put nine, I'm going to ask that you please do that. Michael's gone. So I can't ask him. He's going to come back to answer my door. And I did answer and I did answer all nine. Okay. And you didn't have to tell me that because I don't want to be able to figure out, but I really want. So how do I? Okay, so I know you sent out that email already. Just send it out again. The one that says, by the way, we have Pete, we have Michael, we have Ken, we have Wendy, we have me, we have Jerry, there's one more person that I'll just put the list up. Okay, I know what to do now. Cool. Thank you. All right, I'll see you at one. Well, my time one. Sounds good. Bye.


Hey there, Psych2go family! Welcome back to another video by Psych2go, made possible only through your love and support. We aim to explore everyday situations through the classes of simple psychology. Have you ever met a very nice person in your life? Who are they and what makes them nice people? We're not talking about the fake nice people though, that we've covered in another video, but you probably pictured someone who is agreeable, easy to get along with, thoughtful, caring, and polite. They do favors for their loved ones without ever asking for anything in return, and are happy to help everyone out with their dilemmas. While being nice is a wonderful quality we should all aspire to have, there are certain drawbacks that come with taking it to an extreme. Perhaps you might relate to the points in this video, and that's why we made it, so that you can know when you're being too nice for your own good. Are you starting to worry you might be too nice for your own good? Well here are eight signs that can help you figure it out. 1. You don't prioritize your own needs. Are you constantly putting others ahead of you, and selflessly devoting most of your time, energy, and attention to them? Do you go out of your way to make sure all of their wants and needs are taken care of, but never once ask them to do the same for you? If you're not careful, you might end up being exploited and taken advantage of by a lot of so-called friends. It's important to take care of yourself, and prioritize your own needs from time to time. Anyone who actually loves you will understand and wants what's best for you. 2. You're constantly saying sorry. It's great that you're humble enough to admit your mistakes and apologize for them, but don't overdo it. You don't owe anyone an apology for things that aren't even your fault. If you're too nice for your own good, you may suffer from a guilt complex that compels you to say sorry every time you feel like you've let somebody down. You're so preoccupied with making sure you don't hurt anyone else's feelings that you're quick to offer a hasty apology and take the blame for something you shouldn't. 3. You agree to things you don't want to do. Being nice and doing favors for other people should make you feel good about yourself, not worse. Do you find yourself agreeing and going along with what everyone else wants because you feel like you have no choice but to say yes? If so, you'll probably start to resent others for asking so much of you, but you'll never once speak up about it. You'll let them walk all over you and blame yourself for not being brave enough to tell them how you really feel. 4. You often say yes immediately. Are you often quick to say yes to everything, especially if it's someone close to you who's asking for something? Do you often agree without any hesitation because you worry others will judge your decision? Do you care about their opinions so much that it means you'll sacrifice your own needs? It's important to only say yes to things that you want or are willing to do. It's okay to have other priorities. Don't let other people's happiness come at the cost of your own. 5. You never tell people what you want. Are you afraid of coming off as bossy or demanding? Is this why you don't express your opinions or share your preferences with others? You never suggest where to eat, where to go out, or what movie to watch, so everyone else ends up making the decision for you instead. You might feel hurt that they don't take your feelings into consideration, but when they ask you what you want, your default response is usually whatever you want or I'm good with anything. Being so flexible to accommodate others is detrimental to your self-esteem as well as your image. People may begin to take you for granted, so it's important to let others know your mind. 6. You have a strong need to be liked. People who are too nice for their own good often act this way because they think it will make everyone else like them more. Do you think this is true for you too? Be honest with yourself about where this compulsion to be overly nice comes from. Do you define yourself according to your relationships with others? Have you made your sense of self-worth too dependent on their approval? While it's normal to fear rejection and crave acceptance from others, you shouldn't let this need control your life. People should like you for who you are, not because of what you can do for them. 7. You're very conflict-averse. Are you afraid of a little confrontation? When a friend or family member is upset with you, do you just avoid them and hope they'll get over it soon? Of course, nobody likes to argue or fight with other people, but being too conflict-averse isn't good either. You want to keep the peace, so you just give in to what the other person wants and agree with the things they say, but how can anyone ever respect you if you never stand up for yourself? You can state your side of an argument in a calm and reasonable way, and others will appreciate your honesty. 8. Others often take advantage of you. Have you ever been in a codependent relationship? Do people always turn to you for help fixing their problems? Do you have a long list of favors you've promised to do, even if you didn't actually want to? All of these things are definite signs that you're too nice for your own good, and other people are exploiting you for it.  In the end, while there's certainly nothing wrong with being a nice person, it's just not right for you to sacrifice so much of your time, energy, and emotional well-being for the sake of others. Set healthy boundaries for yourself, and don't be afraid to put your foot down from time to time. It's not selfish to take care of yourself, and you deserve to be happy just as much as anyone else does. Do you often find yourself putting others' needs before your own? Could you relate to the situations explained in this video? Please let us know in the comments below. Also, share this video with those you think might benefit from it. Stay tuned for more psychology.


So you just started your new YouTube channel. You want to get subscribers. You want to get eyes on your videos. We're going to go over some strategies of how to do that here on the journey. All right, so you're an entrepreneur who's finally decided to start investing in YouTube. We all know video is just a powerhouse, right? Definitely. About 33% of all online activity is spent watching videos. I know I watch a lot. Do you? I watch it basically the whole day. Exactly. Even in the US, an estimated 85% of all US audiences are on the internet watching videos. But of course, if you're watching this, you already knew that. Right, so we're not going to sell you on the merit of video. Instead, we're going to talk through different strategies to increase your YouTube subscribers. So in getting more subscribers, you want to make sure you have a channel. So you want to first, of course, create your channel. Think of focusing on something unique and an engaging experience, making, for instance, an icon that's identifiable, unique, and recognizable. Yeah, definitely.  Now this trailer is typically 30 to 60 seconds that will essentially tell your potential subscribers, even existing subscribers, what it is that you do and what you stand for. So when creating your trailer, we recommend basically creating a little bit of a highlight reel of all your best content. Because this is typically what people are going to see first when they come to your channel. Now Brian Dean of Backlinko has a bit of an acronym that he uses to basically create that killer channel, and that's called Top. So starting with T, that's your target audience. So when you basically introduce who you are and what you do, talk to your target audience. If you create killer content for service-based providers, introduce them and talk to them directly. That way, when they see your video and they hear it, they're like, OK, cool, this is for me. So they feel like they're included. Absolutely. And then O is your origin story. What makes you unique? What is it about you that's really going to compel your audience and what's that story look like? Then lastly with Top is P, and that's for your pitch. With any of your videos, especially your trailers, you really want to basically just give a pitch, whether that is to subscribe to your channel, watch the first video, whatever that looks like, have a pitch in your video. It's your call to action. All right, now that you've created your channel, you want to start thinking about how you can customize your page. For instance, you can have a unique header. So for me, I'm a public speaker, so I may want to have something where I'm talking. See people, see me on stage. But then also, another very important about who I am is my wife. So have a nice picture of her and I together. So it shows people how unique you are. Also, different things on your page can be moved around. Your playlist, you can have some of your most unique and intriguing videos at the top to encourage people to click on those as well. Yeah, ultimately, you want to be very strategic about what you do with your page, since many people go to your page first to see what you are and what you do. So you want to have basically pictures of what you're doing, those most prominent videos, everything there strategically. So next is writing a channel description. It's just the opportunity to tell them a little bit more about yourself. It's like a bio. You talk about who you are, what you stand for, what you're going to be talking about. And you can even put some calls to action. You can add links to your other social media or maybe a website. So next is your channel description.  Also, you can add a call to action, like going to your different social media links or even your website. Yeah, a pro tip with your About page or your description here is also talk about how you help that visitor, right? It's not always about me, me, me. It's really what can they get from your channel? So in the same vein of answering pain points, you want to make sure that your videos are optimized to actually speak to those. Making sure to know that YouTube is a search engine first. So YouTube wants to make sure that its users are finding relevant information for whatever they're typing in. So another tip is making sure that your titles have certain keywords that are searchable, meaning what is your audience searching for? Put that into your title of your video and your descriptions. Yeah, and YouTube actually makes it pretty easy.  So your title could essentially be that because that's what other people are searching for. So another little tip, add a transcript. It may be a little easier for some of your audience to just read through or also some of your audience could be speaking a different language. This makes it a lot easier for everyone across the board. Other things to add are thumbnails and also, what would you say, Nellie? Yeah, definitely make sure your description is on par. Add some content there in case they want to get the synopsis of the video itself and have a call to action in that video. But you mentioned thumbnails, so what a lot of people struggle with is they'll create their video and then try to capture a thumbnail from within the video. It's really hard to do. Maybe you're making some weird, awkward faces. I know I do when I talk. So what I would recommend doing is take a separate photo for your thumbnail and then use that. Don't just try to grab one from the video itself. Pro tip. So building YouTube subscribers is all about building connection with them. So the way to do that is to actually respond to each and every comment that you get. Yes, definitely. And on top of that, take the opportunity to actually keep the conversation going. It's more than just saying, hey, thanks for leaving a comment or thumbs up emoji. Ask questions, make it conversational, let that person know that you are really interested and you're appreciative that they reached out and left you a comment. That's going to be beneficial to let people know that you care about them and also encourage people to continue to subscribe. So if you think about some of the YouTube channels that you watch, even if they're super popular, if you've added a comment, has that person ever replied back to your comment? How did that make you feel? You could essentially do the same thing with your fans. As we said, subscribers are people too. Well, this might sound counterintuitive, but we do recommend you actually go on other people's channels and other people's videos and add comments and add comments to other people's comments and continue those conversations and show that you're an authority in the field. Somebody has a question that they asked and no one's answered yet and you know the answer, give them the answer, right? Or just have some value to that conversation and keep it going because they're gonna see someone else comment on that post and go, hey, who is this person, right? They'll maybe check out your channel and then find out that you do X, Y and Z that helps them and now you got that new subscriber. Exactly and another tip is competition, no, collaboration. Don't think of actually helping someone else out as you're just helping out your competition, but think of it as a way as introduction to potentially collaborating with that creator and you're both able to grow your audiences at the same time. Yeah, there's definitely that cross promotion aspect there. Now the next thing you need to do to really boost your YouTube subscribers is to use your video real estate. This is everything from the end screens to the watermarks, all the way to those info cards up above. Oh, look there, oh yeah. The real estate on your video can be a useful place to entice people to subscribe. So don't remember the watermarks, info cards while you're creating these videos. And also the end screen is a good pop-up that happens over your video that can also entice them to subscribe or click on other videos to view later. Yes, and when you go ahead and add those videos on, make sure whatever video you're recommending them to watch is similar to the video that they've just watched. That's a good point. They're watching something on how to increase their YouTube subscribers like this. Cool, make something next video, something about YouTube, not about digital marketing strategies for your website. It just doesn't make sense. It's not that good transition that you're gonna want. Truly entice them to keep watching. So next, ask for subscriptions. Speaking of, subscribe now if you haven't already. The time for subtly is gone. You have to let people know what you want them to do. So asking for subscriptions is completely normal. Yeah, and our attention spans are nothing, right? I know it's bloody all over the place, but 20% of people actually balance 10 seconds into the video. So you wanna have those call to actions early and then also at the end of the video, subscribe now. So next tip, use social media. It's great to be able to cross promote on other channels like Facebook, Twitter, but do know those sites don't necessarily like for other links taking you off of those pages because just like YouTube, they want people to stay on the platform. But do know, native video is actually encouraged. So instead of just sharing a simple link on a Facebook post, you wanna share some of your own native video from your YouTube video on that post. Say your video is say 10 minutes long, a good two to three minute segment of that video in that post and in the caption, then share the link. Yes, we said they don't like links, but having that native video will still help out with your organic reach and encourage people to click on that link to see the full video. Yeah, and it'll definitely entice them, especially if you're creating killer content. They'll see the first two to three minutes and they're like, wait, I do wanna see more, so they'll click that link and they kinda counterbalance each other, right? It hurts if you link off, but it also helps if you add those native videos so it washes out. Figuring out how to really grow your YouTube channel and subscribers takes a ton of time and commitment, but I promise you it's worth it. Well, that's a wrap. 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The rating system, which is a Debian-based derivative, bringing open-source technology for sailors, and we also built a lot of software for that. To do that, we started building a framework called Isomere, which delivers basic stuff for that. We'll come to that later. So the history is pretty old already, like 10 years almost. We were founded shortly before the camp back then, and since then we've been organizing hackatons. There was one big one for the Euro Python, for example, or some maneuvers in the Baltic Sea where we tested our prototypes and developed maritime concept and technology. Open-source is always a must. I've already mentioned it, and it's kind of like what sailors do. Sailors love open data. They all have lots of reference manuals and data on atmospheric conditions, for example, and it's open-source because otherwise it would be difficult. There's some problems with proprietary stuff in this market because, for example, sea charts are often commercially only available, and we're trying to change that by developing something to actually make the open-sea map better. That's one of our purposes. It's one of the most driving things, so we try to optimize things here. Then there's the isomeric community, which is a small GitHub organization which is aimed or was founded to promote the development of the application framework which we're using, which I'll detail later. So I hope if you join the organization and maybe see my other lectures which are revolving around isomer again. So what are those things, actually? I'd like to start with a Hecker-Frieder operating system because it demonstrates what isomer actually is capable of, and for that, I've made a few slides to describe half us. Yeah, it's a German pronunciation unless somebody comes up with a better name. We had lots of acronyms. This one just stuck too long. Okay, to give you an overview, as I already mentioned, the Debian-based operating system with pre-installed modules and isomer system, which offers a user interface and it's optimized for low cost, low budget, low power, what sailors need. It's kind of ruggedized. We often build Raspberry Pi units that you can easily mount in your ship. It's comparable to something like OpenCPN or SignalK or various other programs and you can combine them, actually. So core functionality is sea charts and navigational aspects, but we also do data logging and analysis, crew information, management systems, and we'd like to integrate external data sources. As I already mentioned, it's all about open data after all. It also includes a few utilities for ships like an anchor manager, anchor watch, or crew registration systems, information systems. You can document your travels or organize your imagery, your pictures you took while sailing, and lots more. Let's have some screenshots to see what actually is in there right now. This is the boot menu. There we have some basic functionality. It's just open street map with a small dashboard. But here you can see a little more complex example. This is a prototype screenshot of the AIS system, which we integrated, where you can see other vessels around you and see your own position on a satellite hybrid map because this is actually not only satellite, it's also open street map overlaid with it. Here we have a real dashboard application where you can actually see the course that was sailed and some performance parameters up here. Here's another screenshot, which demos off the dashboard and AIS functionality. As you can see, there's these red lines, and those are five-minute markers of those vessels where they will be, if they continue sailing for five minutes. As you can see, some of them would crash into land, so they're probably going to change the course. You can observe all this in the AIS view. We also came up with the idea of combining Freifunk with maritime technologies, like every sailor should have a Freifunk installation on his boat, so you can share your Wi-Fi with other people. For that purpose, we built a radio range display, which shows you where other sailors with network access might be in your region, so you might actually grab some internet coverage where your own antenna won't really be able to help you, but you can use other people's mesh network nodes. We also integrated some small tools for classical sailing materials, like raster charts. Vector charts are really problematic right now because they are encrypted and it's a very proprietary format, but we're trying to change that as well in the long run, especially by integrating open data sources like Open CMAP and other available data. So for that purpose, you can combine layers and have very sophisticated setups for various data sources that are available online. You can also take these data layers with you by downloading them, at least with some it's possible, and you can always cache tile imagery data, but it's not perfect, so another reason why we want vector data. These are some weather maps. I don't know if they are still existing. These screenshots are a little bit older, but you can see that there's lots of interesting stuff to do. We also have some rather uncommon visualization. I'm not even sure what this was meant to visualize, but I thought it was a nice screenshot, so I added it. We also have responsive in our mind. So classically you have one board computer on your ship, and maybe it's in your navigation corner. There's a screen, keyboard, mouse, and you run some Windows software on that mostly, and we thought, let's bring your own device concept to Sailors. Why can't I use my smartphone or my tablet? I mean, almost every Sailor's got some of these sketches on his ship these days. Why not use them for navigational purposes, for communication with crew? Maybe they are in the harbor or somewhere. It brings a lot of interesting aspects, combining these new tools we have with a rather old trade, such as sailing. There's more like we have a switchboard, which you can use to turn off and on your 12-volt supplies. Also, Night View, this is an early prototype. You can still see some white elements, which are not supposed to be there. And that brings me to the end of the screenshots, and I hope I'll be able to present some more new ones next year, because right now I am in the background working on a new front end, which has been overhauled, because what you've seen here is mostly a very old version of Angular, and right now we are modernizing this to be compatible with most modern systems by upgrading to Ionic. But these were the Hackerfleet operating system screenshots. Let's head over to the ISO application framework, which you've been kind of seeing already. It's the common functionality that was developed in a modular way to enable operations like sailing, and the data aggregation we do, and the user information services. And at some time in development we noticed that the framework itself is pretty versatile and has mustered up to a lot of other tasks. So I started splitting out the Hackerfleet operating system call functionality from the framework functionality, and that way, Isomer was born. There's a few very interesting features or technologies in the framework, which you can see in other frameworks as well. But I think the combination of them makes it pretty somewhat pretty unique. We are focusing on rapid development. Like, I don't want to be harassed by a platform specific, for example. That's the reason why we use Ionic for the front end, because you build it once and it works everywhere. There's a heavy focus on collaboration with synchronization. I'm investigating three clocks and interval clocks and other stuff to get data synchronized between clients so you can collaboratively edit any data object. There's no cloud necessary, because while sailing, you usually don't have access to cloud infrastructure. There's only the wind. Data clouds are far away from your ship usually. So this has to run offline, off the grid. Also, obviously, geodata is very, very important for sailors. So these are first-class citizens, and along the way, I came up with a proposal to not only treat geodata as first-class citizen, but any data. So it's driven by Shimata, and it's constantly validating data, and allows to, for example, take diffs and patches from data structures, which you then can seamlessly integrate with synchronization methods. There's also a lot of general functionality for your general website or application that you necessarily need somehow sooner or later, like an enrollment system or a gamification module or notifications for users, these kind of things. And I constantly see them being developed new and a new, and they're being rolled all the time, because people build those on a daily basis for their own projects. And the idea was to take all this functionality that's being redeveloped unnecessarily and combine it into a functional and working framework, which is open source, and I think we're on a good way. So what's it built with? It came to my mind that Python 3 is pretty nifty, and in general, the scientific community has taken up Python quite well. I don't think I need to explain its popularity much more for the front end. We decided to use HTML5, because as I already mentioned, it just works everywhere. The general communication between front end and back end has been overhauled, because REST is kind of like, it feels like an ATEEZ technology. It hasn't seen much overhaul. It's probably solid. But if you are aiming for low energy, very efficient radio communications, alone thinking about the overhead that REST imposes on your data communication is kind of like, no, I don't want that. So we decided to move on to WebSocket. And in the last few years, you may know things like Swagger or other API definition protocols. And recently, there's been this new maneuver, which is called Async API, which is meant to describe asynchronous APIs like you can do over WebSocket. And I've started integrating this into isomer, so you get nice data sheets about your API and auto-generated documentation. And yeah, for objects persistence and management, because that's one of the core aspects of every back end, back then I chose MongoDB, because it allows to store objects, not only tables. Some of the data objects we are handling in the marry team setting are quite complex.  So we decided to pick MongoDB not for its sharding functionality or all the stuff people are always complaining about, because when you're running it on one Raspberry Pi, you don't need sharding functionality, strictly speaking. So it was a good choice back then. I'm starting to regret it a little bit, but because of you may have noticed the license changes they opposed on their community, which are not so nice for open source projects. So I've started investigating into exchanging the MongoDatabase handler with the Postgres system, because you can do the same things in Postgres these days and there's no loss at geographic information functionality or anything. And also you can use JSON Schema very nicely with Postgres these days. JSON Schema is the core pillar of our data structures. Every data structure needs to be specified as JSON Schema. This helps us validate for one thing, which is the core functionality of JSON Schema, but there's also very nice front end libraries for rendering very sophisticated forms automatically without the developer even needing to touch any design specifics. I know this is often not perfect, but if you think about Django's admins views, for example, it's a great tool. I also use the click library, which is a very, very sophisticated and extremely powerful command line tool interface. So we have a Rappel interpreter and automatic command expansion in that shell, et cetera, et cetera. I hope that made you interested in the Isomer project and also in the Hackerfleet project. If you want to try it out, I'm always here to help you. You can find me on the contact channels I will be posting afterwards. I'd be happy if you reported any installation bugs or anything you stumbled upon or have any constructive critic. I would be happy to receive it. Maybe you can find something in here and realize your own projects with the framework. I'd be happy to welcome you in the community. So then there is this other topic, what is Hackerfleet doing on other fronts? And we've been busy, although we couldn't sail this year, not a lot at least, most of us, but we've come up with other things that might be interesting for the community as a whole. So let's dive into that. Some weeks ago, I came up with the idea of a virtual sailors club. It's kind of like a normal analog sailors club, but it's virtual. Yeah, maybe there's interest there and we actually have something similar. We started, when did we start? I think it was three or four years ago, maybe five. We started the Maritime Hackers Meetup, which is a small round table of interested community members gathering at CCC events. We'll also host one at this virtual RC3. It will happen tomorrow afternoon evening. I'm announcing it hopefully on some more channels by then. There's a GitHub issue on this task and our repository tracker, but I'm gonna send out more information on that. You can also join the mailing list. I will be announcing it shortly. And this is a low volume mailing list. You might be interested in what we're doing and sometimes we also organize hackatons on boats. This is the first address to talk about it. And some members also have ships and we do organize sail crews now and then for trips around the world. And another thing that I'm excited to present or to announce is that we're going to produce hardware very soon, like you may have seen previous hardware designs of ship boxes and mast boxes. And I'm proud to announce that I'm currently in the process of procuring a new bill of materials for a new product which will be available sometime next year. And it's a board computer with a little bit of Wi-Fi but you can extend it. It's open hardware, most of it at least. There's some tiny bits which we can't really have open source, but we're working on it and the community is always working on it. If you'd like to be informed about these movements, you might want to subscribe to the list that is mentioned in the slide. I'll be announcing the start of this campaign sometime next year. Yeah, I have another slide here for the MIT Makersmeeder. There's the issue I was talking about. This will be the final discussion point or announcement point. I just didn't find Vicky at the RC3 this year. It's maybe it's hidden away. I haven't found time to dig in, but maybe you want to watch this issue on when the MIT Makersmeeder will be started. But I'll announce it as soon as we have a final date. I'd love to see you there and discuss the international maritime topics with you. This may range from technology over social aspects, but we're also talking about economic things and ecological things like the overfishing of the oceans or the maritime rescue scene and activities in the maritime and Mediterranean Sea. For example, this can be a topic as well. There's been very interesting discussions been happening these last years, so maybe you want to join this. So that pretty much concludes my talk. I'm now looking forward to any questions from the intertubes. Maybe you have something. I would be glad to answer anything. Oh, wait, and did I? I'll stop. No, no, not questions yet. We're doing something we tried out on the 2015 camp, and I think it was at that time it was pretty much revolutionary. And I'm going to try it again. Crowd management, please give us your input on how we are supposed to proceed. What are your current wishes? Maybe you have some. How would you want to see technology evolve in the hacker fleet context? Yeah, I'm getting funny notice here. We had some technical issues, and we need more better hardware, definitely. Is there anything from the internet? Oops, we're looking for the community manager? Well, I think we're going to do this asynchronously because asynchronous is always better. You can just join the hacker fleet channel or join the contact methods that we have here, and then just post them virtually, and I'll be answering them. I'll be here all day. My next lecture starts in half an hour. I will be proud to present the obvious shoot, which is something very different than the hacker fleet operating system, but it's been built with Isomer. It's a multimedia suit for mixing or managing mixed media sessions, and it was meant to showcase the performance aspects of Isomer, the framework itself, and Python, especially. Yeah, getting still more funny messages from them. So yeah, that pretty much concludes it. I hope you enjoyed it. I'd also like to greet the hacker fleet community. My flat and sea base mates, it's a breeze to work and live with you. I love you all and my family, of course. Greetings, go out to my family. Yes, world peace, please. Let's have the contact details a little bit more so you can know where to, oops, that didn't work. File, click in. And no, next, I need to catch myself. Thank you for your attention. All right, thank you very much, Wright. And thank you very much, Wright, the sailor, and I think you'll be back in half an hour with the next talk. Yes, looking forward. And that's about? 1400. Yes, that's the time, 1400, and? And it's about the avios suite, which stands for Audio Video Input Output. Audio Video Input Output, okay. So stay tuned, in half an hour we'll continue with the audio framework. Thank you.


Welcome to Church of the Chair where we celebrate all the things we do while seated. I'm your host Dee and today I have a channel update for you. So I got some good news, some really good news, and maybe some bad news for you guys depending on how you feel about the current state of the channel. The first thing I want to touch on is probably the bad stuff. So I'm going to be putting the Stephen King videos on hold for one simple reason, and that is they're not doing too well. I was shocked to see that everything was just on a steadily downward trend and that's perfectly alright. I have other content I can do. Also, I do understand that it's probably because of the daily content. There's at least three Stephen King videos every single week and most of those are the Redux series. Sometimes I do a list here and there, but moving forward, which brings me to the good news, possibly for those of you tired of the daily content, I'm going to be changing the schedule from Monday through Sunday to four days a week. I, tentatively, I want to do Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then game nights on Sunday as per usual. That might change here in the future because I'm going to be busy on the weekends. So if you guys will let me know when you would like game night change, what day you want it changed to down there in the doobly-doo, I'd appreciate it. So bad news slowing down the King content because it's just not doing that well. Second thing, semi-good news because we're going to be pulling back from the daily videos.  And if you do want it every day, I'm going to need you to sound out down there in those comments because I'm not seeing the attention to the videos. Also, discussion videos have been doing extremely well. So I'm going to focus more on discussion videos and the unsolicited advice videos, things like that, just fun conversation type things, mainly because of this comment I got that really truly made my week. When I saw this, I was smiling for hours afterwards. So I appreciate you, Rev. And that's kind of what I want the channel to be. Now, the discussion videos are also easier to make. I find it funny that the more effort I put into a video with editing and all of that that, you know, goes into like a redux style video, the more effort I put into it, the less you guys seem to like it or pay attention to it. And I'm not complaining. This is all a test. This is all an experiment to see what you guys like watching. And right now, the discussion videos and non-Steven King stuff are doing far better than any of the other content, even the book reviews I've been doing. I was surprised to see that Our Share of Night, my review for that one, didn't do better because so many people voted on it in the poll for which book I was going to be reading next for time for a tome. So again, if you guys want more of a certain content, you need to engage with the content. You're already watching the content, but engage with it. Give it a comment, give it a thumbs up. I don't care about subscriber numbers. That's not what I'm here for. But as far as the thumbs up or even the thumbs down, the thumbs down help, even though you can't see it, I can see the dislike button. I don't know if you guys know that or not, but the dislike button does show up when I go to YouTube Studio. So I can see what you guys don't like. And if the majority of you do not like something, I will not do it again. Also, in the comments, I need input. Like what do you want to see, especially in the comments of this video right here, what you want to see more of and what you want to see less of. The last thing that I want to mention is the really, really good news. And that is projects are finally starting to roll back in for me. So I have less time to work on the YouTube stuff. If you do not know the reason why I had to step, well, I stepped away after January 1st, the reason why I came back is because my industry pretty much shut down. And now things are starting to kick back up with other jobs that are not related to, you know, SAGAPTRA and WGA and all that stuff. So I will be busy doing other projects. So there's gonna be fewer videos in the future. And I hope you guys don't mind. But if you guys want to see daily videos, you need to let me know.  So please get down there and vote, have your say, all that good stuff. So moving forward, next week, you're only getting a video Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I'm doing an unsolicited advice video. I'm doing a review of this wonderful little book in the house in the dark of the woods. Look for that on Wednesday. And then on Friday, you are going to get another discussion video. I really enjoy this idea of the unsolicited advice series. And I don't wanna come off like Rev said in his comment. I do not wanna come off as condescending, but I do wanna try and help people enjoy the process of reading more than they already are maybe. So definitely check out Monday's video. It's entitled, Let Fiction Be Fiction. Again, I'm not trying to tell you guys how to do what you do. Do whatever makes you happy. I'm just trying to get people to enjoy the process a little more using some advice that you may not have thought of before. And if you have, that's fine. The video is not for you. But yeah, sound off down there in the comments. Let me know what you wanna see, what you don't wanna see.  I do, so get down there. But until next time, I'll hail the chair.