What he represents is patriarchy. We're here to do work as men, as patriarchs. There's nothing more natural than being a father. Welcome back to the 21 convention in Orlando, Florida. 2019 Patriarch's edition. Our next speaker has been around since the inception of this organization. From the very beginning, he's been here. Every speech, a multiple keynote speaker. From the very beginning of Anthony Johnson's building, what it is that we're seeing today? Socrates. A man who you can find him on YouTube at Manning Up Smart.  Again, a multiple keynote speaker. Someone who's been here and seen the entire evolution of what it is that we're doing today. You don't accidentally become an architect. He didn't accidentally become a patriarch. He's written the book, The Map. He's had discussions on all things man, from the pickup to being a father. And he's one of the few men that I will ever say has made me a better father because of what it is that he's done and the conversations we've had. And I don't say that lightly. And I hope he passes that on to you as well. So welcome to the stage. Socrates. Thank you. I'm Socrates.  But today, I actually get to do something more. I actually get to give a full-throated roar in support of masculinity, fatherhood, and the parental governing system we call patriarchy. I do this because I believe men and women should be met together. The genders are meant for each other. I believe we are compatible in complementary to each other.  I wanted to do something about that. And I have been. It has been a challenge to get to this point. And I am terribly grateful for the opportunity to speak to you today. I believe that the challenges we face today are not environmental. They're not survival-based. They're elements of our own construction. They're man-made. They're social and cultural in origin. And because of this, we have the opportunity to amend that readily or simply discard it. If feminism isn't working for you, if it isn't keeping women and children safer, if it isn't building more robust and vibrant, healthy communities, discard it. Ultimately, I believe we have a prime objective based on Darwinian standards, scientific standards to survive and to procreate to the extent that our children have children of their own. Texas DOM talks about the importance of grandchildren and how immediately unimportant your children become when they enter your life. I think that is a testament to this ongoing natural system. It is appropriate. When we look at these institutions, we need them to survive. Any philosophy that does not put relationships, marriage, and child-rearing first among social orders is objectively wrong. Wrong to our human nature, wrong that is continuously antithriving and wrong in them if it was persistently applied, it is self-extinguishing. I objectively stand opposed to those ideals that don't support relationships, family, child-rearing. That is the bulwark of civilization and anything that demises that is a saboteur to our species. Ultimately, knowledge should be utilized to your gain, to your thriving and success. Where it doesn't, it fails you. Ultimately, nature just doesn't care. It doesn't care about your fears, your concerns, your failed marriage, failed relationships. It doesn't care. It doesn't care about the challenges that you have to overcome to meet and exceed a woman's hypergabist demands. It doesn't care about hypergamy. It doesn't care about your thousands of YouTube subscriber rates.  It simply doesn't care. Furthermore, nature doesn't care about the fact that how much money you may have saved by switching to MGTOW and going your own way. It simply doesn't care. Nature is a ruthless, ruthless system that demands results. Either you will meet our prime objective of surviving and having children of your own or you won't. It's as simple as that. Nature doesn't care. Hypergamy doesn't care. Hypogamy doesn't care. Ultimately, it is going to have to be a choice, a choice you make. And that's going to be a tough decision. Whether you do or you don't, that burden rests on you. I also want to sit down and stipulate that you're an evolutionary success. Your result of over 3 billion years of evolutionary history, the living, breathing end of that legacy. Here's a graph. This is 14 million years showcasing hominid evolution. That's a considerable increase. It's a remarkable graphic setting. As an evolutionary success, you are at the living end of over 150,000 years of human development. That's over a quarter million generations before you. I'm going to tell you, you have everything you need to succeed right now. Your challenges will not be biological. They're going to be social. So let's take a look at this really quick. And as we kind of look in perspective, when we look at this 14 million year track line, and we're looking here millions of years on the bottom, 14 million, and brain volume is an indication of intelligence as kind of a baseline. When we start looking at the very far end, we see primate development coming up and through and about halfway across. We actually separate out from the chimpanzees. Chimpanzees go their own way. We can say biflecia. She goes off on their way. We have gorillas next, then orangutans, and we come up to africanus. Interestingly enough, we're progressing slowly. Not really remarkable. Nothing really special.  So we're not talking a remarkable increase in intelligence here. There is, but it's not significantly something we're going to notice. But something interesting happens about four million years ago. It starts up tick. And we went from scavenging and foraging to a little more meat consumption. And that changed things. Nutrition matters. And nutrition spurned growth and development in ways in which we can see reflected in the fossil record. We can see it in our own evolution. Interestingly enough, as you cut with a about two and a half millimeter where it starts to really start to arc up, there's a major behavioral shift. This is an indication where honest to God, meat eating started becoming a major staple of our focus.  They started becoming bigger creatures. It became more predatory rather than prey. Interestingly enough, where it really starts to tick up is when we start discovering that animals savaged by predators, we could go over and use tools, stones to crush the bones to extract fresh bone marrow, which was incredibly fat and nutrition and protein dense resource. That spurned other evolutionary strategies. Once you start utilizing tools, start implementing those structures, you start seeing a big up tick. And what that's truly indicative of is now we're going after bigger and more consistent prey, animals larger than us. We're making our mark on the predatory scene. To the extent, we're now also doing it collaboratively. We're hunting in packs.  We're still primarily on all fours. We had the ability to raise up. We moved out of the branch and tree area. We're now crossing grasslands and savannas and we're primary meat eater. Ultimately, what ended up happening is we got good enough on our skill that we started using specialized tools. And those tools allowed us to actually get a considerable amount of meat. And you are the man when you do that.  In case in many cases, you actually can lift your head up, throw your shoulders back, take pride in what you're doing and do your strut, right? You are Homo erectus. Take a look at that. Look at that. You see that bipedal? Two feet. We're now standing on two feet. That starts happening here. And it is a remarkable exchange. This continuation upward, diet plays a role, obviously. Technology plays a role. It helps us even more. We have more refined tool points. We now have spears. We have other hunting, implementing clothing, things that make life easier, things that make survival easier. But that line going almost vertical like that, that's not the only thing that happened here. The remarkable thing that happened here was the degree in investment in childcare and parenting skills. Previously, we were a primate. Previously, we'd usually maintain infant care until about two, three, four years old which would explain our mammalian reflex for serial monogamy, okay? And the serial monogamy typically would rotate for during the birthing seasons every five to seven years so that you have to maintain a child and once a child's able to actually maintain itself, integrate into the pack or the family storage group, it's kind of fending for itself and in a sense, an operational adult at five or six. This is starting to change here dramatically. Gestation development is extended much further out. Probably eight, nine, 10 years, all right? When we start to see Homo sapiens Neanderthalus take place, the Neanderthal, who was a thinking, breathing, relic of ours that had many of the attributes that we recognize today as human, all right? But ultimately, we're at the top because of the things that make us human. Much of that, tremendous amount of that is going to be culture. Societies. How we organize and structure our lives in families. One of the defining characteristics. And there we sit. It's a great story. The only problem with that story, it's not complete. We're not Homo sapiens. We're Homo sapiens sapiens. That's us.   Smaller than the Neanderthal. I don't feel particularly smart right now. What are you going to do? Interesting enough, we actually coincided with that species, subspecies. We roamed the Earth while they were there. So let's take a look at what that comparison would be, eye to eye. That's Neanderthal on the left. And that's us. And that is a beast. If this was an MMA fight, game over, dude. He's got us considerably. Larger, more robust, stronger. Larger brain capacity. Toolmaking. It's incredible. This is a language capable, toolmaking, fully developed hominid that lived in clusters of family packs. They didn't operate alone. You're not going to come across one like an ally not in the wild. You're going to come across a group of them. What makes this even worse is we didn't evolve parallel to each other. I know we evolved separately and we migrated into their lands and territories. We're the interlover. We're going into their territories. How well do you think we were received? Let's just put this in relative context. If you think today we have racial issues, I would tell you right now, we had some really significant issues with Neanderthals. Naturally, conversely, I think they had some serious issues with us. Now, I'm not saying that there isn't an element of empathy and humanistic behavior associated with them. They're still from our genus. They're still part of our historical human lineage, all the emotions and everything else. And if anyone's ever seen a dog land a grave of its master, understands a million reflects to a death or a loss. I can guarantee you these were living, breathing, feeling, loving, affectionate individuals. We know it. It's in the fossil records. You don't do burials the way they do unless you care. They did. You don't adorn yourself. You don't create pigments and makeup and tattoos the way they did and we know they did. But the bottom line is this is a direct competitor. We don't just have the challenges of living day-to-day survival to survive. We have to compete directly with that. And by the way, here's the spoiler. We kind of know how this ends, right?  You still had to answer hypergamy. Women still had to respond to a man's hypergamous interest here and compete with that. And the interesting thing, this is kind of the real fascinating part, we know there was crossover. We know hypergamous demands for women would look at that and say that could protect and provide and shelter me and my child. That's a viable option. And we know it happened. We've got their DNA. If you have my skin complexion, it's not a small percentage. It is a percentage or two that still exists. While they may be extinct, they exist in our genetics today.  It is absolutely worthy remark. Now honestly, I don't think hypergamy was the real directional flow on this one. I think it was hypo, historically, that's always been true. Where we go in and invade and take over resources, we murder, plunder, rape, and we take them into account. I think it was far more likely early humans absorbed Neanderthal females into our family structures into our clan base.  Can you imagine proto-proto-human females bringing and having been confronted with an interlopter of a female Neanderthal into the collective? I don't think they were well-received to the extent that the genetic makeup transfer is remarkably less than 2%. If it was a value and they were absorbed naturally, you would see more of it. We don't. We see separation of the species, subspecies, and separation of our kind, even though we do have some of that genetic legacy. So ultimately, a Neanderthal or early human that could not resolve the issues and challenges, both environmental and threat-based, predatory threat base, and could not resolve those issues and navigate that context, their children didn't survive. Either today. This is where the part nature doesn't care. It's why Neanderthals didn't survive. Likewise, where I said most of our challenges were not theirs. Ours are different. Ours are cultural and socially based. If you cannot successfully navigate and provide successful answers to the environment we exist in today, socially, culturally, politically, you're going to end up like him. Nature doesn't care. Hypergamy doesn't stop and hypogamy doesn't quit. Ultimately though, you have everything you need at your disposal right now, genetically. It's ingrained and encoded into you right now. When we talk about the Neanderthal brain structure and size, I want to talk about why some of the changes took place. Why would a smaller brain size be more advantageous in the same environment? The reality is that there was an overall reduction in brain size. That results also because in some part we are physically smaller frame-wise than they are, even though we are technically taller. We don't carry as much muscle weight. We're not as robust. Our bones are not as stocky as they were. What that leads to is several different issues. The fitness guys can talk to this one probably pretty well.  But requires 20% of your caloric demands. It is a thirsty organ. It wants and demands and needs calories if you're going to be a thinking creature. All right? That places hardships if you're trying to live hand-to-mouth out in the wild.  When you combine those two elements, their caloric need compared to ours for baseline survival is remarkably different. There are consequences to that. We're able to out-compete them because we were required less. We were leaner and meaner. Secondary element, which is another really interesting one, is when you look at the eye orbits. In comparison, it's subtle, but it's there. Neanderthal actually had much larger eye orbits than we did. They had a larger eye structure. Additionally, the back of their brain was much larger than ours. And that's the area of the visual cortex. That's the brain processing center for everything visual. Now, imagine what it would be like to be in Neanderthal with better vision. Range, depth, perception, your ability to spot shapes, figures, silhouettes, movement, peripheral vision, night vision, subtle things. These guys were highly, highly attuned to threat provocation and also predatory skill elements. These were serious hunter and gatherers that needed those resources and brain structures to survive. We didn't... We'll kind of go on that in a little bit. When you have better ability to have toolmaking and other food resources, you don't need that. But it is something that is worthy of a remark because it changes the equation. Secondary one, this is kind of one of my favorites, is the nasal capacities here, nose structure, everything else. And also the sensory and brain perceptions within it. The ability to smell is a enormous benefit if you're out in the wild trying to survive. We know game animals have terribly heightened sense of smell. You know, we're talking yesterday with Ken Curry about bow, honey, and elk and their elk's ability to kind of circle around looking for a threat based on smell, not just sight. Okay? I don't have a particularly good sense of smell, but honestly there's a crispy cream a quarter mile from my house and I swear to God on winter nights and it's calm air.  I think he had that ability on a regular basis, stiff wind or not. Want to know a really fascinating one? We have concealed ovulation. We can't tell when women are in estrus when they're ready to breed when they're ovulating. Most primates actually showcase that. It's called estrus. There's an engorgement of blood.  Okay? We don't do that. So if you have concealed ovulation and procreation's a challenge and an issue and you want to know, smells pretty decent. That's why dogs kind of greet each other the way they do. There's all sorts of things to issue. You don't have to walk up to a woman, hold her in place and do the Joe Biden. Yeah, not this one. Okay? All right. Now, that guy at Cronk, he can sit there and go, oh yeah, you in the corner. Let me fix my eyebrow. All right? I think there's some advantages to this, particularly when we talk about your prime directive of surviving that trait and procreating. We have that as well. The interesting one is our brains didn't shrink just overall or in specific areas. There's a significant change. There's this exception to this rule. And it is this area right here, the frontal lobe, that arc right in here. You see how shallow this is. And that does several, it actually does four things for us. It's a remarkable one. That's what truly makes us human, really, really makes us human. The frontal cortex primarily deals with a lot of movement, dexterity, our ability to kind of do this. Okay? Small flying motor skills. And if you ever want to drive a chimpanzee or an ape crazy at a zoo, and I did this as a child learning anthropology, let's do this. Get a chimpanzee to mimic behavior, you know, and they'll mimic and then start doing this. They physically can't do it and they'll drive them mad. They get upset. I get thrown out once as a kid out of the ape section. So that was my introduction to anthropology and archeology. So, of course, which just fueled my desire to learn more. So, but what does do for us, it allows us to move on to other tools, refined tools. Neanderthals use spears. There's no doubt, they grabbed a sharp stick, burnt it, go stick a woolly mammoth.    They learned that they could fashion spear points and they did it out of stone. Resin, wrapped it, did all that. We, however, advanced that technology. They didn't. We started using flint and obsidian that has razor and surgical-like properties. That allows that spear point or arrow to penetrate deeper. It's almost like an armor piercing round into the thick-hide, wall-hide bone structure of a much larger animal. Ah, but we took it much further than that. Something they didn't even come close to. We understood the idea of a mechanical lever, okay? And we implemented that in a monstrous display of technology called a spear thrower. It allowed you to take a spear, a suspiciously designed spear, and be able to cast that further, more accurately, delivering tremendous kinetic load, stronger than you can ever thrust with, utilizing advanced technology and spear point penetration. And because of that, we ate better and we ate more consistently. Further fueled decision-making. Remember, evolution is based on a change driven by selection. It needs to be chosen for in this particular case. That's fabulous. The secondary thing that happened was the frontal lobe is also responsible for our understanding of visual orientation, our idea of our physical being in space, and in particularly in relation to other things or other individuals. Doesn't sound really interesting, but let's just kind of take a step and kind of what would we be looking at here? Now, this is going to be perhaps theoretical. I don't think Neanderthals ever did yoga. I don't think Neanderthals ever did Tai Chi. I don't think they wrestled. They didn't develop combat out of arts, whether it's wrestling, whether it's, I don't know, caveman doing kung fu, jujitsu. These are human traits and characteristics. There's no doubt they tried to wrestle. There's no doubt that's a physical combat development. Their hominids are going to do it. I think we understood joint manipulation and weighing which they don't, which made us a lot more dangerous. Not only hunting, but in regards to other hominids. And remember, warfare is advanced skills as of hunting against our own kind. The most dangerous predator to walk the earth. Combatism. That's a skill set that the brain can foster, understanding your position in space. The last one, socialization and communication. All up here. These are your relationship skills. These are skills that allow you to have larger family structures, larger organizations to coordinate that. These are relationship skills. And relationship skills do what? They reduce tension. They reduce violence. They reduce conflict. It's kind of important if you want to take your long-term interest at stake.    He'll get you. There's a difference. Which leads me to the last one. McNevelli was no Neanderthal. We are the ability to strategize, plan, to conceive short-term solutions, push forward to attain our long-term objectives. We just didn't become a better hunter and gatherer. We became murderous, highly effective killing machines. And we weren't satisfied with just the other animals. Think of how much, even today, we value combative arts. That's still a legacy issue. Even though we have a smaller brain, our areas of brain growth hugely improved our ability to thrive and succeed. Now, this is all combative. A lot of those same skills, particularly dealing with the social and communication issues, grew our ability to parent, which really allowed our ability to survive and make sure that the investments we had in our offspring succeeded us and had children of their own.  If you don't have highly attuned social skills, that's not likely to happen. Ultimately, your challenge is to understand you have all these terribly advantageous traits and capabilities already ingrained with you. You're a superior species from everything we've seen before and currently have. And the challenge you have is getting over the constructs we're stumbling over ourselves. I don't want to take it lightly because they're serious, but let's put it in perspective. His challenges aren't ours. He faced significant challenges, environmental, a world that was dangerous and ruthless and he had to live day to day to day. Every day, that individual had to get a paycheck. He also had a competitor that was fully capable, robust and natural killer. And I can guarantee you there was conflict. Guaranteed they're actually finding evidence of armed conflict in the fossil species. We don't face that today. Our challenges are manmade and we need to address those. Ultimately, patriarchy is a calling. Patriarchy is a solution to the things that early man faced. It was the answer to the challenges brought by his world and the predators that he had to defend against. And patriarchy is primarily interested in the family structures of base unit because it is the smallest form of governance you can have two individuals that have interests beyond themselves. You can self-govern, but your interests are singular, primarily. When you have a relationship, you have your needs, you have their needs, and you have the relationships needs and you need to be able to manage and maintain all that. The fabulous thing about all this is we know that it's also masculine in nature. These are not feminine traits. The ability to survive, protect and to provide are inherently masculine. These are our roles. The fabulous thing is we have 10,000 years of human combined collective experience to show that this method works across time, across continents, across cultures. No other form of family structuring works better than this. This isn't an academic exercise. This isn't a sexual political theory. These are proven tried and true over time and have been successful. If we want society and civilization to survive, we need to make sure we have a culture that functions. And to have a culture that functions, we need to have a society that nourishes. For society and inertia, we need a family structure that endures, relationship structures that endures. And all that is predicated upon individuals who are thriving. If you don't have those, everything beyond it's going to collapse. Society, culture, civilization, all of it's at risk.  It is diametrically opposed to success and the historical proven record of success. And it is not measuring the results. It's not taking into account that feminism is more dangerous to women. Feminisms and the results of it are due detrimental harm to children. It's diametrically opposed to this, and we should fight it the end of the year. I'm kind of often challenged with the idea of how do you then kind of approach patriarchy? How do you kind of explain some of the other merits and benefits and try to persuade the other sexes and say, what do you tell your mother who doesn't understand? What do you tell a spouse that doesn't understand? And I simply ask, what has feminism done for you today? Show me honest results that feminism owned, created, and developed on its own that's benefiting you in a significant, meaningful way. Then honestly compare that to alternative systems. I'm not saying that there isn't room for improvement. There really is. But let's be honest about it. Let's measure those results. Let's have an honest discussion, pro-ing con, and work at this. This does work. And if it's working, don't torch it on the ground because you want to get rid of the weeds. It's foolish. It's insane. It's irrational. Oh, and by the way, those behaviors didn't get us here. The next step I would like to talk about is it's a multi-parts, primarily two parts. And it's a call to father ship. It's essentially the first five years are the most critical. We know that the children that have the brightest and most potential prospects in life are those that are most thoroughly parented. I don't think that's a startling statement. But it would surprise some. Based on that, we should be looking at those first five years as being terribly critical elements to our child's success, to our family's success, and to our personal legacy. In the first five years, your child's brain will be 90% developed. Personality, brain development. We should be taking particular care to note to handle that, be prepared for those results and do so appropriately. When we talk about a child's needs, we talk about in the first 18 months, you're an infant. And the importance of stabilizing a personality during that time frame. You are completely dependent upon the care to feed, shelter, protect, and provide affection during these years, right? 18 months. The most important thing you could do during this time period is no harm.  Hit them. Hit them now. Hit them hard. The hand you wield does not just hit flesh. It literally hits not only the child's psyche that's going to resonate for the rest of their lives.  The human brain will not wire itself properly if it is abused or traumatized here. You want to know what a psycho comes from externally? Here. Narcissists, sociopaths, all here. And I'm not saying sometimes they're genetic component, they're external ones. This is where it comes from. And by the way, I'm talking to you guys. Are you guys really the offender? You know who really is the offender?  How's that one? The most empathetic sex abuses children between zero and 18 months of age. A child that cannot talk, cannot walk, is completely dependent upon you and the mother for support it needs. And their solution, when tried, when stressed, is a result of violence. And don't be misguided by the good-meaning grandmother who says, well, that sometimes they just need discipline. Sometimes they just need to shut up and behave. Totally cool with that, grandma. Because I'm going to treat you the same way.   And you will have adversely affected your relationship with her. Grandma does not want to be hit, understandably so. But it's cool to hit a toddler, an infant. She's okay with that. I wouldn't be. Do no harm. Do what you can to make sure you're prepared, whatever that is. That violence isn't the resort you drop down to. Prepare yourself, train yourself. Use other tools, abilities. Make sure that your spouse isn't overloaded. The primary caregiver isn't overloaded. Because you're going to do irreparable harm.  And here is a remarkable growth period. They're starting to move. They're starting to talk, communicate, socialize, and provide self-care. And it's our job to make sure that happens appropriately. Ken Curry, yesterday during his workshop with Dr. Tashon Smith, was literally talking about how do you develop confidence in an adult? How do you develop confidence with a child? A strong, stable personality and independent identity, combined with capability, develops confidence. And this is what we're trying to foster here with child development in those preschool years. Your job is to make sure that happens. And there's a number of ways in which we do it. We know that during this time period, parental demands have dramatically shifted. For example, we explain face-time parenting. The time in which parents need to be involved, face-to-face with their child, communicating, engaging in structured and unstructured play. One of the most important things you can do to create creativity in your child's brain is actually engage in singing and song. That's why Disney does all. It's already kind of baked in the cake and they do a wonderful job doing that. It helps the neural pathways form and develop. We need to be doing this. The problem is how? We have to navigate today's world. We can't navigate the world we want. We have to navigate the world in which we live in. And I understand the fact that there are challenges meeting our needs to provide shelter, to clothe, to feed, all in a terribly challenging, demanding environment. As a patriarch, your job is to map out a plan. If you can, restructure your life for these first five years. Do what you can to make sure that there is a single, sole-source, parental-based caregiver that's providing nurturing, support, and encouragement that is actively engaging them on a regular basis that they can rely upon for the first five years of their development. You do that, you're 90% of the way to a healthy human being. The issue is, biologically, those demands are feminine-based. Historically, they have been feminine roles. Today, that's very much negotiable. It really doesn't matter whether it's male or female led because we can learn these skills. You can learn those skills. You can be a phenomenal stay-at-home primary caregiver. In many instances, the men I see who do this are vastly superior than the women who are doing this these days. They're task-focused, more managerial, cut-throat as far as getting a job done, what they have to do, when they need to do it. And they stay on mission. They don't get emotional about it. Doesn't mean you don't get overwhelmed. But the bottom line is, when you're structuring your family and your household, you need to understand the structure and the organization of it. I don't care how you do it, what the arrangements are, but make sure you arrange for that. A secondary component to that is understand the challenges involved with FaceTime Parenting. We are putting a tremendous burden on the primary caregiver because they're also primarily the domestic support individual, right? My mother never had to do FaceTime Parenting, very little. There was no exception to that. She cooked, she cleaned, she maintained the household. We got up, we got dressed.  And we did. We had a great time. Okay? I learned to be self-amusing. I entertained myself. We talked about that yesterday in a workshop. But bottom line is the demands today we know have greatly increased. It is unfair to place all that burden on one partner.  Don't do it here. This is where you live.  Look at it. Understand that you're going to have to overcompensate for this increase in demand in some manner and regard. And there's several things you can do. You know, my personal home, my partner is staying with the kids, doing the whole thing, but I also understand she gets absolutely overwhelmed. And for the life of me, I don't understand men who say the following things. They don't change a diaper. Let's put it in comparison. If this was an external threat, you'd man up to the point of giving your life to protect your child. On the other, you have a child that soiled themselves and this is a biological health hazard imposed upon your family if untreated. If unmitigated, you're too much of a man to handle it. I hear this from guys and I just shake my head. My head may not actually move, but inside I'm like, damn, do they understand what they're saying? This is an opportunity. This is an opportunity for bonding, for care, for display of values. So for example, I know that when my partner gets overwhelmed and you can see it because I'm reading her, I'm taking her temperature on a regular basis, seeing where she's at, I understand the difference between fine and fine. And I don't wait. I'm a force multiplier. When I see my partner struggling, I'm like a quick reaction force. Usually it's centered around the diaper. Totally cool. Never knew how to change the diaper in my life prior to having a child. And actually, interestingly enough, trying to learn how to change a diaper was really interesting. The hospital had a three-page listing front and back of all these freaking amazing courseworks that mommies could take to get prepared to having a child. There was Daddy Lamaze and Karen from Mommy and all sorts of other fun stuff. Really not a whole lot for the guys. And so I was in the fun of myself that I said, I know I'm going to do this. So I took it as a challenge. So I learned how to do it. Then I got prepared and had the tools involved to actually be prepared when the time came to actually do the diaper change, which is remarkable because actually you watch most moms, all the shits everywhere, they don't have what they need. It becomes even more stressful and of course they're overwhelmed already, right? How cool is it to have an actual toolkit? And I took it just like a medical trauma bag. It literally was modeled off of it, shoulder harness flipped out. Everything was in place. I had everything I needed, diapers, covers, wet ones, wipes.  I had changes of clothes. I had toys. I had just anything you could possibly imagine.  I don't know what I'm going to hit, so I got to carry it all. I had formula. I had bottles of water. I had, you know, and this is going to be something my partner doesn't like this. I actually had those glucose little things to give babies some energy just in case, you know, baby loves the sugar. So I had some of those in there too, snuck that in there.   If you want to operate mine, put yours and maintain yours that way. I also had a plan.  I knew that any time I could actually do it with one hand, anything I needed to get, I could operate. I knew how to handle things. Okay. Yesterday there was the workshop on self-defense and probably guns. I know the guys, the range guys, really love some of the stuff that they did, but there's ways in which they manipulate a gun. How to handle a gun would be most effective, how to bring it up.  I didn't, by the way, I orientated the diapers so they came out the way I pulled them so they're oriented. I didn't have to worry about front, back, everything else. I knew when I pulled it out, it was already the way I wanted the set up to be.  I actually was showing, you know, my partner had actually had guests over, family members, everything. He said, God, watch him change the diapers. It's remarkable. He's fast. He gets it done. It's amazing. Okay.  There was. Didn't matter. Bigger the mess, better the job. Higher the value, right?  But it wasn't about the diaper. My technique was not about the diaper. It was not about changing the diaper. What I was doing, I was caring for a patient. First thing you do is about the individual, not about the task. I had a baby that was in need, stress, crying, upset. And you have to maintain visual contact. Hey baby, we got this. Absolutely leveraged some of the skills I learned in pickup. Change a woman's mind by changing her mood. Strongest frame wins. Kids crying. Are you going to just come to that frame? Or like, come on kid, we got this. And by the way, the kid's looking for the out, right? The kid is looking for a parental response. It's crying for a reaction. And when she gets the appropriate reaction, you are able to soothe her before you change the diaper. Kids wailing, screaming, crying, upset. Don't try to change the diaper. Stabilize the patient. You do all that. You work it through. You constantly engage. The other thing I learned too is maintain physical contact constantly. Never let the kid go. Okay, and this isn't about pinning the kid down in place. Absolutely essential. But it was not about pinning him down. It was about constant touch and reassurance. We've got this. Take her hand, wiggle her hand, stroke her hair. Give her a high five. We got this. Talk her through the process. What are we going to do? As I'm walking her down the hall, I'm telling her, babe, we got this.  We're going to change it. You're going to be wonderful. We're going to get you a new outfit. We're going to pick it out. You're going to look marvelous. Who's got you? Your diaper daddy does.  Guess what happens when we come out? Baby's happy. Mom's kind of relieved.  I didn't have one casually. I had two. I had a distressed parent. I had a distressed mother. I have to also deal with this.  But she's now still overwhelmed. She now has a changed kid and is overwhelmed. Not enough separation to decompress to get out of Olympic thinking. And by the way, this is where mothers hit children. Okay. So I'm protecting my child. I'm protecting my partner by soothing and making sure to decompress the situation. And you do that by picking low-hanging fruit.  Pick the quick, easy and fast stuff. When we're taking the close combat training with the range guys, they're talking about house clearing and that you're constantly looking for a job. Parenting is no different, particularly here. If you are reacting, look for a job.  Ask mom if she wants a glass of wine. Hey, take it easy.  Learn to do that while the kid's up on your shoulders.   What's your partner going to do?  You'd be surprised.  The baby's no longer crying. Doing the dishes, the baby on him.  Make sure you're preparing yourself for these sort of things. First five years is your responsibility. There's a litany of skills if you put your mind to it. Prepare. This isn't a life sentence. It's five years. It's a military tour of duty except you're not serving your nation. You're serving your family.  And that's a cornerstone to your nation and civilization. Treat it as such. Change your perspective a little. See what that does for you. The next is the next 15 years and there is no greater social indicator for failure than a single mommy raising a child. How do you change that? Make sure she isn't one. We know men are responsible for cultivating. Make sure you cultivate. Make sure you're present. And the only thing worse than a father that isn't there is a father who physically is is emotionally detached and not available. The ugly thing is that an absentee father has more negative impact than any other external factors other than physical abuse and trauma. Not race. Not class. Not income. And if we understand the concept that being wealthy doesn't eliminate problems but provides you opportunity and choice. Make sure you have it here. Make sure you are so wealthy emotionally when connected with your child that you have opportunity and altitude and choice. But it is going to be your obligation to make sure this happens. In those 15 years we know children are apprentices to their experiences and expectations. You've heard this in the last three or four days extensively. I don't want to cover a whole lot more because it is all there. But they are learning from the get-go. Their imprints. What we do as mammals is our primary source for knowledge gain of how we learn is by imprinting our experiences. What we see and experience and the feelings that we take away from it. We remember how you made us feel more than what you said. Leave a pause of impression here. Structure your life to be an available and present, dedicated father. Cultivate. And if you want to be a patriarch over cultivate. All right. I'm going to kind of go really quick on the next one. One of the challenges we have as parents is that how do you teach? And it was a conversation that came up literally six months ago. How do you teach the under father people that do not have a father in life? How to father? And it becomes a particularly interesting challenge. You can tell people to do these. But you can't necessarily always show them. Like I could tell you the story of the diaper thing. It would be a hell of a lot better if I physically did it with you. So how do we do that? How do we give the tools and resources to the under father to father appropriately while they're fathering? And it became kind of a challenge. And one of the things we talked about and we knew was storytelling and connection with your children spending 20 minutes a day dedicated to your children listening and engaging, developing the lines of communication, developing an emotional bank account with them is so vitally important. And one of the easiest ways you can do that are by rituals. You heard the guys talking about bedtime rituals, storytelling, okay? Have you gone into a bookstore recently and looked at any of the children's books? There's quite a few. You can go to a public library and there's a lot, but publicly what the market's providing is rather startling. Good luck finding one with a father. When we kind of independently kind of pulled it that weekend actually went to a couple of stores. We actually found one. Had a male. He was a grandfather and he was a buffoon. How do you find content that matches your value system? Now, in all fairness, you can find a lot of content that has a lot of value-based content that may not align with your values. For example, you can find your baby's first feminist book and on mommy blog's galore, you can see how proud they are to share that with their sons, okay? Like Tanner said yesterday, you cannot send your child to Rome and expect them to come back opposing Caesar. So the challenge was let's provide a content. Let's do something contrary to that. So we're not using she persevered, the story of Hillary Clinton, okay? Or the ethics version of it, she persevered, Elizabeth Warren's story. So we came up with the kind of an idea what would that kind of generally look like? And we had a project where we sat down and said, how do we express a positive masculine viewpoint, family-oriented, family-centric? How do we convey stories like Esop's table that have values that can engage not only children but speak to the adult? How do you parent and teach someone how to protect their child from being bullied if they don't know how themselves? And they can do it by having this conveying system of a ritual with a storybook that does just that. We also sit down and utilize parental resources in the back that communicate directly to the parent on how to maintain and do these sort of communication efforts, how to engage, how to prompt more questions. And the benefit of using fictional characters is it's safe now for the child to discuss it. It also, you can enable an adult to ask a question. Have you seen bullying today? Have you witnessed it? What was that like? What did that mean to you? What could have been done? How did that happen? Okay, then you can result in bringing it closer to home. Did you get bullied today?    You have to be engaged. You have to be there and present. You have to develop the lines of communication before you need to rely on them. There was a moment after changing my diaper story that all those things that my daughter came up and pointed, and this was when she was young and pointed that she wanted her diaper changed. And it struck me that she came to her father for help and assistance when her mother was right there.  At that moment, because of a year of conditioning, behavior of being there, she came to dad for assistance and help when she had me. I want to make sure I carry that forward. I want to make sure you men have that ability and capability as well. And so we created this project in a book. We'll see how it goes out. And if you want to hear more about that, we'll be discussing it later on. But ultimately, the great catastrophe of life isn't that we get zeroed out of our finances, of our businesses, of our house, of our homes, of our wives, our families, and marriages. The great catastrophe of life is that we played it safe and we lost the opportunity to live a life of meaning that was fulfilling and that was filled with joy. So much so that our own cup not only overran, but it filled the cup of others by our own example. Patriarchy works. Patriarchy is embedded into your genetics, but it only works if you're aware and you actualize on it. And when you do, everybody wins, starting with you. Thank you. What represents is patriarchy. We're here to do work as men, as patriarchs. There's nothing more natural than being bothered.


my brother you asked about an alliance my presence here signals that we want to work together it also signals that we have worked together it also sends a message to the adult position party that we are supposed to work for one common goal and that is resummoned how we are going to work out this and how we're going to work together depends on how we are going to be meeting now in private before we come and tell you that there's a birth of a child so right now these are propositions why is normal in politics it's very normal yeah don't take it's like it's a witchcraft it's not and that's why we're doing it in the open and for us at Zambia and during the day and for Zambia must prosper we have announced to the nation that we are going to make overtures to all the opposition parties that we think we can work with that we believe have the same philosophy the same ideological thinking as us so there's nothing untoward for this kind of so once we agree on the fundamentals I'm sure the nation will be taught uh the directive that the Vxs must be so you know we must distinguish development to agenda yes from meritory and just platform shopping for populist pronouncements you must understand that when the president speaks sometimes it's trying to make headlines and trying to distract the nation from what is really hurting them this Vxs for us at least speaking for Zambia must prosper I'm not an issue yeah they are not an issue at all this country is 752,000 square kilometers is a big country so you can't compare this country to England England is six times smaller than Zambia the simple geography social studies actually great seven social studies so when you so when he says that in developed countries some of the leaders just drive small cars it is true but they drive small cars to go and park them and some of them get into what they call tubes my train to take them to work others they ride bicycles to go to work it's true because the distances are shorter now if honorary bonarumango the vice president has to go to Caputa you wanted to go in the Vxs I've been there I've been there I've been there I've been there I've been are you honestly telling me that the mp for Xangombo will have to go and drive a Yango or a Vxs or a Rion let's be serious the terrain in this country is not the same as the terrain in Europe the size of the countries are different so let's not mix the two but I'm glad that it's making this plan because somewhere along the line the MPs and some of the ministers are getting hurt because they are thinking so how are we going to visit our constituents not every country is like Zambia so we must make our judgment based on the local circumstances this Vx story for me is one of those stories where we want headlines and you people who go and report the president is being economical no the MPs and the ministers who live in far flanked areas and constituencies are in far flanked areas are going to be hurt have you ever been to Zambia I've been there have you ever been to Ikeling I've been there when you reach Solway just to educate you to get to Zambia is 540 kilometers it's like going to Livingston from here now you have to Solway then from Solway to Chavuma or Zambia is the road the same there is the same road from Solway is it going up to Winilunga Ikeling the same the terrain it's not how unfair is this president being to those MPs and ministers who want to get to their constituencies and visits same for people who are going to be going to Lundas have you been to the Lundas road it's the same minister of infrastructure who was telling the nation that's not an economic road so we want to repair that road so how does the MP in Lundas in Chasafu in Vubu get there with those bad roads if the roads were repaired the infrastructure was taken care of then he could argue to say drive because these smokers can reach there then would have said our president well done because you've taken care of the basics but the roads are not yet done and there is no plan for the infrastructure that is why you've seen Honourable Milu to go quiet we are still talking about the Lusaka and Dola geocourage road are we hearing anything and yet people even here it used to take me three hours to get from here to go and see my parents when they were live in Mufliu it now takes five seven hours to get to Mufliu why the road is bad now this is a couple of boats Lusaka road what about the rural system when you turn off from Kapiri going to Nakhondi can you drive my brother these pronouncements must be realistic and taken so for me this is wishing I want to buy the permits on Akupua let's stop telling this story development means you take care of the basics and the basics means the infrastructure must be taken care of and as a president the basics of economics when people are hungry no matter what you do they will tell you and that's what the problem is now the Zambians are complaining about hunger yes and that's where the president is feeling they've sold the maze they've sold the minima we have a crisis we are back to lining up for me to me those are basic simple economic theories and the both of us are lawyers he's the economist so who knows the economy the lawyers or they don't but we are thinking better than him correct and that's a problem here this is why I agree with the president of it and our history will tell you that okay thank you very much we will take another set of two questions set of two questions like I indicated the area on you tell us the media house you are representing and your full names yes my brother thank you my name is George from Fox newspapers my question is the related to the copper belt KCM as well as in Japan it's been one year six one year seven months the current regime has been talking about bringing in the investor and revamping KCM as well as a Mopani and the voice on the copper belt is growing what plans do you have as a board by alliance to address the issues of KCM as well as Mopani and do you think the UPND has the capacity to address the challenges that is facing these two big economic lines in this country thank you very much George any other question good afternoon president my name is post on Wanga from KDMT mine is just to get a clear more more explanation on what should be done to recover the economy indicated that the IMF has not yielded results up to now so as the opposition political party just want to get your advice on how best the economy can be recovered and to president I would like you to help me to give me a comment on what the UPND government is doing we have observed that many opposition political party leaders and members are being arrested in in a view of fights or fighting corruption so I'd like to get your comment on that thank you very much Boston from KBN TV just to set record straight you've caught Zambia Maspou's property president as Kelvin Fuwe Wadia the initials are KBF but when we write in the full it is Kelvin Fuwe Wadia he's not Mr Fuwe he's Mr Wadia if you say Mr Fuwe not answer you say you are talking to a different person a wrong person all together yes I know it's once happened that Millennium TV and someone said Mr Fuwe that man called and the the president said no no no not answer you are talking to a wrong person me I'm Mr Wadia not Mr Fuwe yeah so we have two questions maybe the first one to do with KCM Mopani I don't know who takes it um this is a very very important question that you've asked because it borders on the real economy on the copper belt I have been born raised and I grew up on the copper belt to point and to coming to visit their parents basically work for the mines so I understand the geography of the copper belts I also understand the economics of the copper belt the truth of the matter is the UP and the government does not have the answers to resolve the copper belt problems Mopani and KCM today are suffering the simple reason is there is just no plan there is no rescue plan the operational costs from Mopani and KCM cannot be met with the levels of production which are going on on the copper belt today that's number one number two the contractors who are the majority of the employers who work but feed off the mines also are not being paid by the mines because the mines are not producing enough so there lies the problem the mines can't produce enough to pay the contractors and therefore the contractors are laying off the weapons what is happening now on the copper belt is shameful more so that the UP and the government condemned what the PF was doing and then they're going to do the same thing by appointing a receiver sit the receiver at KCM and we're doing the same thing which they said was wrong today as we speak three quarters of the contractors subcontractors subcontracting themselves with the mines are not working which means the majority of the people who generate money around the copper belt are not there what is the solution the solution the solution is very simple you must find an investor who is willing to fit into the profile of what your developmental agenda is we at least speaking for myself as Zambal mas cross I've taken a study and we understand that that copper belt needs to be revamped but some of the investors who are coming on board today the president is talking of negotiating with the Vedanta Vedanta but these negotiations have taken how long and today what are the answers he was on the copper belt I think it's been there two three times now and the people on the copper belt were expectant he has come back no solutions the truth of the matter is those negotiations may not yield the results who owns these mines perhaps that's the starting point the mines belong to this country and whether you like it or not you have to make a political decision are you going to let your people keep suffering because you think you must be negotiating forever no a political decision means that ZCCM IH and other investors must come on board discuss and say we are taking over the operations of the mines after the mines are in Zambia what would be wrong with first of all saying the mines become operational then we provide an investor later because this government can find the money this government can put up collateral for that mine so that the mines becomes operational we've got enough people in northwestern province running the mines get some of those people to come and grind the KCM and the Mopani arrangements whilst you negotiate with the Vedanta to me that would be an immediate solution whilst you look for a long-term solution but if you don't have the mines operating there is no production or the production is very low there will be no answer to the problems on the copper belt further what the president and the UPND will not tell you is that they've got operational problems the operational problems are these one machineries are breaking down underground don't be surprised if there are floods in one of these mines because we don't have enough pumpings i mean the pumps to pump out the water to get that water into the kaffir river we don't have enough of the line to stop that pollution of that water and that smoke which we used to inhale it means there's no mining going on you go and see whether chambesh is producing anything even that economic zone around chambesh is there i've been there i've seen so what they are doing now is getting the black mountain from the black mountain to go and start the new leaching which they're doing so that mining takes place now with acid but the actual digging of the copper it's a problem because the machinery is old there's been no replacement of machinery how are you going to start mining when the machines are old everything that you see on the roads by well machinery is going to the new mines in northwestern province the copper belt is dying slowly and the upnd has no solutions for us we have a plan but i shall wait until i launch the manifesto for this but i'll tell you what plans we have about the copper belt because we've been there we've studied that situation and we have a solution but right now that's just an overview of some of the solutions which are capable of sorting out that problem on the copper belt but if you don't mind the contractors are not being paid the copper belt dies once the copper belt mining is not taking place the contractors are not being paid where's the money coming from from the copper belt everything dies this is what we mean when we talk about production cities in zambia must prosper production cities identify an industry which will be an anchor for the economic activities around a town once that is functioning then the other subsidiary companies move in trade commerce banking you also have residential homes being created you have hospitals being created your banking keep being created then marketing trade and commerce comes in banana market here they will not sell anything no one is buying even if the teachers on the copper belt are paid today it's not the same as wash mining a lot for i've been there wash mining a lot for the country i mean the town shakes because they're the major contributors to the economy the others feed off the mines i hope you understand so we shall give that a bit more discussion when we get to launch the mine first who's the other brother who asked me personal question kbem maybe the question should be do we have a plan at least i will not answer for the economic front but i'll speak for myself as zambia must prosper we do have a manifesto which we are about to launch so perhaps before i go two steps ahead or is it three steps ahead around allow us to launch the manifesto so that you can look at it dissect it read and then you see where we're coming from but for us as zambia must prosper we're about to launch that manifesto about how the economy will be attacked and we shall attack it left right and center to ensure that every area and every sector is going to be talked about so that zambians get some hope that there is a future to look for but with the upnd one thing i can tell you is i worked with my good friend daga in the hlm during the alliance the upnd alliance leading up to the elections in 2021 the truth of the matter is there is no vision on the economy there is no economic plan that will help this country revive itself or get itself from where it is so from the upnd perspective i see no solution but there will be a lot of talk and you'll be told it's very important very important that that one will come but as to solutions could it be so for me that's where i live with me thank you very much you call upon president kavimba to tackle the question to do with the arresting of opposition political party leaders by u p and the government of president aga in the hlm every day we hear an opposition leader is arrested and so forth what's our take okay let me just give another dimension to what the president is going to say about the economy it's very important that as an example we understand the history of the world economy including our economy these are economies that have been designed structured by our imperialists from a colonial master not to be productive economies for their people this is what is known as a new colonial economy an economy that is on the back or designed on the back of what we call independence i laugh myself when i read it was now i'm able to to read the national anthem very well when i was at prime minister and so on that's cool i just used to stand up proud and free you know i didn't even know what it meant to be proud and what it meant to be free now i understand now i understand this economy was designed to be an economy that will produce raw material for the west and the americans that's the purpose of this economy nothing else nothing else so when you listen to up and the ministers and i remember a few colleagues in the media uh have the same memory as mine and you follow the first standard interview that is to make most water in the heart as minister of finance after up and one this is what he said we are going to ensure that we produce copper in this country and we want to export this copper in its raw form we're going to have value addition to copper to enhance its value that's what he said over two over two years ago now i want you colleagues in the media to do some research whether or not there is any form of value addition that you have seen in copper that's what i'm going to do some research even just kawaii kangono come in the mangy and we're able to do it here in zambia the answer is zero the zambian copper is only ours when it is underground when it is mined and it comes you know to the surface it belongs to vedanta it belongs to first quantum and the church and musokotani have no control and no claim over that copper the price for the copper is pegged that the land and metro exchange in london by fellows that don't own the copper poor countries there's no copper being produced in in london there's no copper that is produced in france but the only the copper which comes from zambia and even peg the price that is a structure of this economy so when you think that the the imf as the fish in the pond is going to empty its own pond you must be a fool you must be a fool it's no way the imf which was designed to keep african countries in perpetuity in poverty in perpetuity is ever going to redeem with this economy that is nonsense i know those are the are the textbooks that is to make musokotani and the hh and others read at the universe of zambia i know but surely when you tell me the age of 60 there is nobody who turns the age of 60 who is described as intelligent they describe us as wise okay there's nobody who's going to describe me now and say me so that women are intelligent i must be a wise man now because of what i've seen in the past hh is 60 to make musokotani is over 60 surely they must begin to turn into wise men but they don't seem to they don't seem to so the whole of this imf thing is a hoax nowhere in the world has the imf ever redeemed a third world economy nowhere and these two guys know that very well so somebody said you always like this statement you're saying if they do come and take my last dollar how many how many dollars do you have so i can also challenge you if this economy improves come and get my last dollar because it won't it won't arrests i don't think that the president kbf and myself here and i'm sure any woman in zambian would have a problem with anybody arrested for offenses that they committed i don't think so i don't think so what do we have a problem with as political party leaders and even as lawyers yes is the due process of the law of the law that's all that is our problem if somebody is arrested for a bondable offense give them bond if somebody is arrested for a billable offense grant them bail that's all that we're saying and this is what hh himself said as we're swearing in the let me catch over this i g i didn't i didn't say i'm sorry that we the current i g maybe has changed his mind but do you the catch over that's what he said that's all that we're saying you can't be arresting people causing trauma to their families you know to their friends and then at the end of the day they are acquitted no mpd is a case in point hundred and what four hundred and seven days at the quota at the court four hundred and seven days in prison and when she's about to be acquitted because there was no evidence against her the entire knowledge that is criminal that's criminal the part of the state that's not the due process of the law that's all that we're asking that's all that we're demanding and he promised this himself i've been arrested 15 times oh my god i spent you know and you know he's a very bad public speaker as the economics are very bad speaker very boring there was in mcoveco hundred and seven days we went to see him with this bag to mcoveco just to see how healthy he is we went to visit him in mcoveco even as people think that i don't like him mcoveco has done four hundred and seven days so between the mcoveco and the hhv you ask me who is the hero it's mcoveco it's a woman where church was at mcoveco hundred and seven days like i said last time we must now shut up we have a hero in the now don't want to listen to that boring voice hundred and seven days so colleagues that's all that we are demanding due process of the law that's all because he himself complained about these things when he was in the opposition what is good for the goods and good for the gander must be good for the gander too thank you we call upon the zmp president kbf to comment on the harassment of former political party leaders and national leaders in this country um i just want to make an addition to what my big brother said here um you see as lawyers we have a certain thing and uh the first thing is due process must be obeyed as been explained but also the investigations have to be done before you actually knock on someone's door and this is what they change from a stress and we're not saying anything that he didn't say exactly this is what he said because of his own experiences i'll give you a case in point um former president longwood home was raided i guess and this is the former head of state whether you say you're going to see mama estalungu or you're going to see another person in that the point is this is the form of president's home you go with grinders you go with a pantheon of policemen and things like that this is what we call psychological harassment we don't do that one in a democratic country to in a civilized country which has laws what would have stopped this government of the u p n d for example to simply said we are sending two plain cloth c i d officials go and drop a call out mama estalungu tomorrow report yourself at the police station what would have stopped your estalungu going to police station in a very civilized man all that drama we saw there was not going to take place all that manpower the waste of government resources was not going to take place but there it was in full view of even those that supported the church the embassies the western embassies especially they saw what was going on there have we seen that kind of harassment before on a former head of state at his home no but here's the question what was the aim no we are looking for vehicles how many vehicles came out of that yard one little bit how many man hours were wasted how many police were mobilized that was an operation planned until the former head of state came out and said what is it that you want there was going to be war there and if we're not careful people have been saying no the police conducted themselves professionally people can know the gentleman the point is the professional police would have simply said two c id officers send a call out mama estalungu come to police station end of story what we saw there was not professional what we saw there was intimidation and psychological warfare on the mind of the former head of state because if you're going to touch his wife technically already in his bedroom you're already attacking him you wanted him to leave the wife and say no no no do you have a phone i may not coming out which man does that so when we talk of the rule of law when we talk of good governance these are some of the issues we're going to observe this government on how are they attending into those things how are they conducting themselves how are they using the police the investigation wings are they just using them like trash dogs and saying go and back and make noise on people's doors until we get them out even to the police we are begging we are peeling the police force please try and be as professional as you can because one day what you're doing will happen to you and you don't want that to happen to you and the most disappointing point in part for me as a person who was quite close to the president during the alliance video was that this is the same thing he kept drilling into my ears no more now this won't happen i will not allow this these kind of promises we can see now they were just talk for the sake of talk i think we have a president in state house who's not very conversant with the law so we appeal to those that are supposed to advise him on legal matters let them give him the proper advice so that the police are used properly and indeed himself doesn't make unnecessary pronouncements yesterday we saw honorable window on his birthday being thrown in happy birthday being sung on the behind the scenes but how unfortunate but you see you ask yourself what kind of offense was this a breach of some parliamentary rule of some kind and stuff like that are we honestly going to be throwing each other in prison back and again look at the amount of police man i was being wasted on such a simple arrest what would have stopped them from simply saying this is the vice president or acting vice president of a political party send the call out two policemen again would have been enough we want you to report us over to woodland police end of story are you honestly telling me citizens that's a given moving that would have refused to go to woodland police station i don't think so so why get that again but for me it's a panty panty anyway masambians we are promising you that the day is coming when all this will be a thing of the past at least we want to ensure that the rule of law gets back to what is supposed to be not just pokemon but in reality thank you should we take the last two questions and i see before we close if we are done i will call upon the post president on our winter cabimba to give us closing remarks thank you i just want to thank everybody at that time particularly my dear brother here present kbf vice president of corona plant all of you colleagues you know media fraternity and i think that this this should not be should be the first meeting but not the last one yes it goes now be some of the seven no no no not now not now okay so we shall continue to confer and the to interact with you as media so that you know exactly what is going on that my brother said some of the things we can disclose them now there will be time but i can tell you that that news you'll be juicy i know how you like good news for me but that news especially three steps ahead especially to have a parade you know that so thank you very much my brother again for coming thank you mr. president great honor for us in the economic front thank you and you have a big thank you very much