I'll talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Yeah, we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. We be on fire, we be livin' lit.     Name another podcast like this. One of my favorite songs. Check it, check it, check it. It's your boy, E.C.O. And I'm Money Modes by the way, and we creating content every damn day. Yo, yo, yo, man. Hey, it's going down, man. Y'all already know what time it is, man. We back, man. Money Modes, what's up, baby? Having a good time, bro. Man, hey, man, we got this guy today, guys. He don't need no introduction, man. He showed up, man. We didn't know if he was gon' show. He showed up, man. This boy is here, man.  My boy Supreme, man. Bob McGriff, man. Check him out. He here, baby. What's going on? What's happening? Man, hey, man, you ain't been on here since you co-hosted this thing, man. Yeah, man, I had to take a break from the, from the public interviews and all of that. Yeah. Yeah, the thing I want to just say, man, thank you for coming on the show. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, check it, man, check it, man. So, man, God, dawg, man, hey, man. So, you was on here, man. And last time you was on here, Melvin Farmer was on here. OG Percy was on here. It was a lot of rumors going on that was the night that everything transpired, man.  The bloggers was talking. The internet went crazy the last time he was over here. I don't know what happened to make people feel like there was some altercation over here, but it was a thing where you, you was on blog sites after that for days trying to clear this thing up. It was somebody talking too much. Something happened, man. Say something happened. Something happened, man. He got off where we even left him there. Not for real. It was Niggas talking, man. Niggas was talking. It was Niggas that was here that was talking over there, man. I know who it is, too. But at any rate, man. Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? And they think it's a brief flash. I know it's gonna be problems, but I don't want the problems right now. Yeah, we got too much work, man, right now. We're doing, man, to be getting caught up in controversy. Yeah.  I know it, anytime. It can be controversy on camera, not on camera. That's right. Get it understood. Let's do it. So, man, let's talk about it though, man. Like you one of those guys, man in Fort Worth, I always tell you, man, that really, you know, when it comes to the Go-Yeos, when it come to the, can it be been on here, man? It spoke highly of you and how you influenced, you know, what he was doing, you was a part of it. You might, you know, you might have to say, oh man, I did this, I did that, but just feminine knowledge there, man, the way people be, you know, doing, that's dope, man.  You know, it's been a lot of people come on here that show- Kay Breezy. Kay Breezy, man, why do you think people, you know, sometimes try to downplay what you've done in the city?   From now or 10 years ago or ever, 10 years in the future. So it, you know, it's just, it's always a good versus evil, you know what I'm saying? And I'm the real deal, and they know that.  So that's why I get caught up in the, you know what I'm saying? But the real-life ways prevail, you know that. So you and, like, last time you was here, you had brought, actually, break down what happened because you brought OG Percy on here. OG Percy said on that statement that he had never really met a real crib from Los Angeles till that day. And he said he was pretty much, he was star stuttered, star stuttered. Yeah. He even said, hold on, he even said on camera, they don't try to put, like he didn't see it. Like it's on camera. Yeah.  I got it on camera, go look on my, listen, go look on my YouTube pages on there. He was stuttered, he even said it. So when you brought him over to introduce him to Melvin Farmer, what was that conversation like before it all, you know, happened? Oh, it was a, so Percy understood two, three days before when me and Melvin spoke on the phone, I got off the phone with child and I let Percy know what was going on. He knew then that this was an opportunity for him to expand his brand. This was not a monetary situation for him. Cause just like when he came previously and was paid for his service.  When we had, we had Melvin Farmer here, that was our main guest for that day. Yeah. How did he get that, how did he get that sideways? How did he get that to his company? You never discussed no price. Exactly. But when I bought him the first time, did we discuss a price? Yes. And then he was paid, correct? Correct. So why wouldn't it happen again if that was discussed? I get it. But he seemed to feel like he was. No matter what he seemed or what he talking about, he making up stuff. So he made that up. Oh, a thousand percent. Yeah, of course. Okay. So I have you guys work together anymore since that happened. We haven't worked together, but he apologized to me a few times. He apologized. He hated how? Yeah, he, and he, cause I ain't never, what he, what happened after that, what he had to deal with, with Charleston. Okay. He had to call me and apologize or text me or whatever, cause you know I didn't do nothing to him. I gave him, that was the opportunity that he messed up, not me. Yeah. But that was my last time. Yeah, I apologize to you? Yeah, for sure. And not nobody else. A few times. They didn't call you here? No, I ain't heard from him. So I didn't call him and apologize to the staffs where he did it. I apologize to you too. Yeah, you did. We ain't ever, he did it, not you. He did it. He a grown man. Well, there was a thing where they both had contribution to doing it cause it happened in the store, man. Yeah, no, y'all both were, y'all were both pretty active of, and y'all knew like pit bulls in there. He told his man to go outside. We can go outside and talk about it. He didn't want to do that. He wanted to show out. Yeah, he did say that. I'll give you that. So I don't want to hear that. He want to show out. We don't want to hear that.  Now you know first, OG Percy got people, fans that they don't like you, behind you and them having that consultation. I don't care that you brought them on me. Don't pull up on me later. See what they do I got to deal with.  They want to know what some weird is all. Yeah, y'all was just talking. You said that. Just talking. Yeah, because people be giving you a bad rap.  There's some people being that comments be messing with you. That's cool. It's all on the internet though. I like money moses. You're not like it's in the- It's all on the internet, bro. I love this dude, man. This dude, he really one of them star players over here, man. And I love the fact when he show up, man, he going to make shoulder. He speaks his mind. I can tell you that much. It didn't have, it's just the internet though, bro. All they do is talk on the internet. When you see them in person, they like fans. They fans? Yes, bro. I had some of them yesterday though. So- Oh yeah, they were at that pool party. That pool party, that was crazy, bro. Man, you one of them guys, man. But listen, there was some people there. I'm not going to say their name. But they was saying, I'm the most famous person there. I'm like, bro, no, I'm not, bro. These they got money, like I have to ask money. I'm like, bro, this nigga- Bro, they like your style, bro. It's your star power, man. You a bad boy, man.  Hey, that boy, that boy, that boy, hey, that boy one of them guys. So when you think about it though, when you think about just the fact that that happened in that night, what did that do for you? Like, how did you feel about it happening? Bro, it was crazy. I had the same bag on. I put the same bag down on that table over there. And so he had to go. Like you had to go, because you're not going to disrespect this seven like that, bro. And he's trying to tell you, you can handle it a different way, but you're not trying to handle it a different way. You're trying to handle it your way, your way only. So where it comes with that? Yeah, yeah. Exactly.   I still, he'll be back on here. So y'all gonna get to talk.  I told you that the other day. I just ain't talked to him yet, but I'm gonna set it up. I'm gonna get him back over here. It's all good. It's ain't no love lost with Percy. Would you be willing to sit down with him and talk on the interview? We're gonna talk about it. Just, just, hey, man, you know, just this interview, just mending the gap. He apologized to you formally or did he, have you seen him in person?  Yeah, I like to set you guys down, talk to y'all, man.  You did it. I'm busy. You busy, yeah, you got time to even work, buddy. Yeah, yeah, I ain't, yeah. I get it. It's for a purpose? You can sit down and talk to him. I promise you it's for a purpose, bro. It's for a purpose. That tense is gonna be out for you. I promise you that. It's gonna be out for you. You gonna be here? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be right here. You know what else? You know what else? So you one of those guys, man, that basically, man, when I think of you, man, I think about the different interviews, but Ryan would have been on here a few times. He wanted to manage this out here in Dallas. You know, you and him, y'all have y'all ever really worked together at any point? How I even know that dude, he used to call my phone and try to pick my brain, like at least, if not three times a month, at least two times a month, he would call me from Yeo to Jio to Kenny B. I've talked to this dude for a lot of occasions. And so working together, like me giving him pointers on a few little things, that's about it, but like working together, never. So would you say you kind of influenced his career? I made managing cool out here in the D.L. Dougie career. So basically before you was doing it, it wasn't cool? I mean, I don't know what was going on. I just, I came around and I did what I did. Why was he calling you? I mean, because you was the link to the people. I mean, hey, I don't know why he was calling me. He didn't want nothing. He was wanting to pick my brain. That's all it was. Okay, all right. So when you- This is a true story. Ryan was smart though. He's smart when it comes to stuff like big stuff. He tried to figure it out. Because he- He's going to figure it out. Yeah, that's the way he do it.  Oh, this recent. It's like this thing a week ago. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What, explain to me what happened on it. So right now I'm working on a monumental project with my guy, Hollywood. It's a documentary on the Latino culture in Fort Worth. And it's huge. So somehow he saw us in a neighborhood in Fort Worth on the North side, you know, doing what we do. And he dimmed the guy. He was like, I don't fool a Supreme. Which- How did he find out you? Tell him what the guy- Man, I don't know what this dude got going on, man. I don't know if he watching me. They all watched my page from fake pages. This is what they do. So he say he didn't deal with you. He say, I don't fool a Supreme. And the dude was like, oh, for real? He was like, yeah, he's a rat.  He said, man, text message. You got the text message. Yeah, you got them. Give me those texts, man. Yeah, get them to me. I looked at it. I didn't see it a while ago. Make sure I get them though. Cause I'm gonna put them up on the screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.  I've never been in prison before at all. Damn sure I ain't never told on nobody. Well, you know, what would make him say that? Cause you and him was, y'all was, y'all talked before. We wouldn't, have you ever been friends? Why would y'all talk on the phone? First to even have a conversation on the line, we were friends is a strong word for a guy like that. You dig what I'm saying? But I'm not a, like at the time, he wasn't how he, how he is now. Check your phone too. He wasn't like that. So when he calling my phone, it's a, it's an admiration to it. You dig what I'm saying? Yeah. And I'm not going to turn them down. Just, you feel I'm going to give them the game. That's what I do. And that's what I did. Well, I would, I'm reading text message. You said to me, you said, I don't F with Supreme. Yeah. He a rat. Yes, he worked for the FBI. The FBI. That's why he bringing them cameras to y'all hood. Yeah. Say, why would that thing do that? That was the Hispanics. Yeah. This was the other day, man. It's recent. So, so basically, did that put you in, any kind of altercation? Cause if you call somebody and rat, and they go. And these guys ain't playing over there where we was at. They serious business about their business. Man, you making me think of training day when they dropped that white ball off, man. That's where we was. That's where we be at. That's where we be at. So then on the flip side, if we're being funny, let's think about the safety. No, that's real. That's real. That's real. You dig what I'm saying? Able to, when you guys able to, how did y'all figure it out so that it didn't become something that could have escalated? What you mean? How could we figure it out? How did y'all figure it out because those guys could have took that literally and it could have been a bad situation. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I'm saying how did y'all figure out how to defuse it? I mean, when you dealing with the type of people that I deal with, it's like they know the real and the fake. So when the dude sent it to me, they already knew that I ain't on that. They ain't on over like FBI, Ray don't know me. You dig what I'm saying? He know this entertainment stuff because I'm the opposite of what he talking about. So it was funny, but it ain't funny. Yeah, I mean it.  When you do this and he do other kind of shit that's weird as hell, but that was just like really dry and weird to try to stop something I'm doing. I'm not even messing with our people right now. I'm messing with our people, but I'm not messing with our people. You dig what I'm saying? I'm doing a whole documentary on a Latino coach in a city where you can't even come to, man. Why are you and these people damn telling them how you feel about me? Like it's gonna matter.  Like, come on, man.  Do you think it's because you and him both had dealings? Well, more three had dealings with Kay Breezy and then you managed Kay Breezy. Do you think that caused y'all to have some pressure? It's all of that. He, Ryan, think that he is, well, I don't know what he think he is, but I know who I am. So there's gonna be a good versus evil. You dig what I'm saying? Well, who is the good and who's the bad? I'm the good.  So, yeah, so, and I'm just messing with you, but I really am serious about the fact of this cause he spoke a little bit on Kay Breezy and heard the, you know, being around. She wasn't even around. But then she wasn't, you know, when she started doing certain things, that's why they kind of backed off for her. They didn't back off. She left because of him. He just ain't... Okay, break that down. You got a lot of people who come on these things in front of these mics and put these earphones on and they just lie. They get up here and tell lies, man. We're gonna get to the other lie in a minute, but that was a blatant lie. She was there because of mode three. She left because of rain and the situations that they were getting put in. You dig what I'm saying? Okay. That's the real truth. So rain was, you felt like he was influenced things. Nobody is around rain because of rain. Even Dundun and Seven Pink Press was there because of mode three.  He is nobody to nothing. He just in a position like other guys has been out here and they are stuck in those positions. There hasn't been any growth. So when y'all pop out with Boss Talk 101, he got all this other stuff popping out. Y'all come across a Supreme or rainwater, say cheese or had pain or y'all.  It's just people that were thrust into positions. You dig what I'm saying? And some of us still, we're pretty much all of us are still who we are.  It wouldn't be like this. Dig what I'm saying? What? He has a platinum artist that's passed away now.  Well, he was managing him. Yeah, all right. And this here caused him to be in that whole algorithm where he ends up on the Billboard Awards. That's the first time I heard that. That's the proper way to put it. Yeah, he ends up in the house.  Now he know what to say or he got to go to for advice. He ain't none of that.  So, but he ends up on the Billboard Awards. He ends up on the Grammy Awards. He's representing really to me the Dallas area because he ends up on these bigger platforms because of what Moe3 done. Did you, you seen all of this happening in real time or you didn't know? Not at all. Yeah, he ends up on that. Well, you just told me something that I don't know anything about it. He ends up on that because of his artists and nominations and all that good stuff. So, there are some things that went on with him that are really positive toward a brand. What is he doing with it though? I don't know. Well, artists that you had come a pretty he signed. Where he at? I'm pretty sure he's trying to get the hell away from him. It was baby C. Baby C came over here. One of the young guys. He signed a girl too. That's the girl he talked about. She gone. She gone. No, no, no, no. The deal was just recently. He did another girl. Yeah, she black. I mean, I don't know if she signed him or not. I like baby C a lot. That I do like he very respectful. He from North Carolina though. And he did come up. Because he don't know. He don't know. He don't know. No, he don't know. So, do you think, okay, cause you wanted the guys that left here, went to Atlanta, did some dealing down there. Matter of fact, I think Kenny B told me he came down to Atlanta. Was it Kenny B? They all did. And also, not so allucy, but Goyeo, he came to Atlanta. Yeah. How much did that influence their career? When they started, you know, blossoming, when they started to grow and develop? Well, people don't know is that those artists, the city of Fort Worth popped those artists. Atlanta, that was just a perception move. You dig them just like going to New York. Something you came over. For sure.   Like, I ain't bragging, but this is the truth.  They was kids. You feel me?  We're gonna go to Atlanta. We're gonna go to the beach and do this. We're gonna go to LA with Sololucy and do this. And we're gonna do all, it was a perception thing. And it worked. So how did you, cause I had Sololucy on here. How did you end up dealing with Sololucy? Period. Like, what type of way are y'all connected? I came across Luchi through Yeyo. And that was like Sololucy's baby mama's who put the blonde streak in Yeyo's head. You feel me? Sololucy's baby mama put the blonde streak. Before he had the blonde streak. Yeah. It wouldn't have been a blonde streak except for he came through. That was, yeah. For sure. Where you at? Well, me and Luchi was at. Both of them forwarded. Luchi was there before me. What made him do it? I mean, like, so. So I put the blonde streak? Yeah. But I was doing it. No, but I wanna know, he got his first blonde streak. And that blonde streak in Yeyo's head was monumental in her story.  That's right. You know what I'm saying?  And it was from Luchi, them and all them. Luchi already had it. Yeah, for sure. Luchi had it. Johnny Damn D had it. A few people. It's a four-work thing. Spoilboom. But that boat was something different. Okay. The blonde boat was something way different. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no. The thing I know about is his brand flourished. He blew up. That's how I met Luchi, though. Do that. Do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. That was your first time meeting Luchi. That's dope. Cause you were with Go Yeyo. He was with me. He was with, I'm sorry, he was with you. Yeah. So, so. Yo, I ain't been doing no more playing no more. I get it, man. So when you think about just, what made you get into managing? Man, Yeyo was having dealings with one of my homegirls and of course I'm older than Yeyo and she brought him to me in Atlanta.  I didn't know nobody. I was in Atlanta. I had already, I had deal with what I was gonna do and I was done. Wow. And so I was in Atlanta. So y'all end up making that decision to work together? Yeah, he came to Atlanta and that's what happened.    Give money to the runnies who gave me Sean Cotton half pint and dark skin and plug. He gave me they phone numbers and said, Supreme, this who we need. I said, say less.  That's what happened. That's what set forth the whole DFW because none of these people were who they were before buddy gave me their number and we made that happen. Wow.  So Yeyo had paint shooting his videos. I was managing them. Give money to the runnies, helping them with his lyrics. Dark skin, the plug.  You know what I'm saying? And Mozo, I was doing the graphics.  Like it's a whole thing going on. And we didn't even know we was doing that. You did what I'm saying?  Like literally everybody became who they are because of that situation. So y'all had a team before you knew y'all had a team. For sure. We didn't know what we were doing. For the things that you have accomplished in your career, do you feel like you get to just do? Do you think you get the proper respect and recognition? What does that mean? You paved the way for a lot of different artists that we speak on. You had your fingers in it. I'm not gonna, you had your fingers in the midst. And these bloggers, these bloggers, a lot of these bloggers. Bloggers too. But I mean, I'm talking about the, from Kay Breezy, you've dealt with her from, I can answer a question. All of the solo luchi, Kenne B, all of the different people, you know, go yeyo, do you feel like people give you the proper respect for all the things that you had? I feel like my name come up enough and it's heavy enough because I get a lot of love. Like I literally, like now I can't really go places and people don't know me.  So now that I'm here, like people know me, like everywhere I go, Dallas, Fort Worth, Allenton, but when it comes to getting to just do, that ain't something that I really care about anymore because it's not real anyway. Okay.   You dig what I'm saying? How is it fake? I mean, if people recognize you and they like what you're doing and what you've presented, if that was a movie to come out about the Fort Worth artist and some of the Dallas artists and that you've been influential in life, you would be in that movie.  The people that you would want to get your just do from will speak on the fans. They don't know that these people ain't who they think they are. And the people that's out here portraying these who they are, they fake. So I don't, you know, what's going to happen with me? The Lord got control of it. It's going to happen anyway. Cause they know if I was anything like people ever made up about me, I wouldn't still be in these positions. I wouldn't still, this is a nice place. You got about seven cameras in here. It's about $200,000 worth of stuff up in here.  Yeah, correct. Do you get what I'm saying? So exactly. So that's what's more important to me. People that just do from them, they know what's up for real.  They just, then they got a problem because now I'm talking. Okay. You feel me? I get it. Now let's get to this, that guy that was so happy to talk about it. Yeah, you talking about the son cotton. When son cotton's on there, your name came up. Now, before we talk about that, let me just say this. When this happened, I called you.  I said, look man, your name came up in an interview. You really got mad at me.  He hung up the phone. Nah, nigga, F that, nigga. Why y'all tag me and bang, nigga. Hung up on me.  The nigga got upset with me because of what had happened. But I was doing it because I wanted to respect you because I wanted you to know this stuff is about to come out. At first I was like, should I put this up? I even asked you. Yeah, you asked me. And you were like, nah, then me and my wife were like, nah, I'm gonna go and put it out.   You called me and said it out too. You probably don't remember. But I still wanted to respect you. You know what I'm saying? Because you my guy. And I was like, man, this is the culture. Yeah. And I was like, man, this happened. So I don't, I want you to know that this song went down. When I asked Sean Cotton about you, he had a lot to say. He was very, he was adamant to say, hey man. He was adamant. He said, whoa, you know, my boy, man. I'm like, and he was like, he never ever even met Kay Breesy in his life. He said, and we, I think you even asked him, would you even know her if she even came? Can't you see him? He said, no, I would know her, but I never knew, I never met her. And so it's almost to say, what you even thought to say about him stopping her career, just break down to me.  So Sean is a guy that I met when I was managing Yeyo. And like I said, we was all in the same, he was the same pot together, you feel me? So he know I know him.  You dig what I'm saying?  Just say he hasn't talked to me since Yeyo, that's a lie. He's, I think he said, why would he want to hate on him? Or why, I don't, he don't know why you hate on him. Oh man, just explain to me, but explain to me. He's nobody to hate on.   So you saying Sharon Cotton got Sharon on this? At least, well, let's be, let's be specific. Let's say maybe I know of least five, I can say right now that he didn't got down on, you dig what I'm saying? But that's neither here nor there. Y'all do your research. You dig what I'm saying? That's these as facts, though. But I see it. Wait a minute, let me say this, that nigga got a brand over there and it's moving.  But it's fake. All of them got him, all of them got him. These guys always be trying to attack this guy after the fact. Rod Wave said he gonna slap him.  Rod Wave said that? It's on the internet for sure. Yeah, everybody know that. There was another little artist that came out. All the artists come out, man. The guy there was just on the, what little town he was in, but he hopped on the internet. I seen that. People try to, try to shun him like he lying, but he not lying. That's what he said is literally how that dude is. What did he say? Do you remember, I don't remember what he said.  And the nigga came lying into my mama.  There was this fact though, that's what he do. What did you think when you see like, damn, he got him? It's another one. It's another. Who is it? I forgot his name.  The little dark skin, I seen him going in. Maybe from Georgia, maybe. Yeah, he from Georgia. But the thing, but the fact of the matter is, when this thing starts to develop, you know, as far as these artists that he had. I would say he's in position, man. As of Yeyo and Sauce Walker put that page in position. And like I said, there's been no growth in those guys.  And that's why this place is how it is. So you think that because from what's going on now, what's really going down is a sports agency and a label, a record label. I mean a, you know, he is a full fledged label now according to what I'm hearing. Okay. What does that mean? So what does that mean?  Yeah, he ready.   That one came out his mouth. Like, but how is that possible though?  I don't know, them words came out his mouth. Those are lies. Well, you're about to tell lies. Yeah. So you gotta pick them out. So you, when he, when he said that basically he didn't know Kay Breezy and he didn't stop her career, explain to me why Kay Breezy went for a three day rent on a guy that she never met one day in her life. That messed up her career. That messed up her career. Cause that's exactly what he alluded to. Of course he's met her before with A. Tony Films. He'll act like he hasn't, but he has. So he did meet her with A. Tony. He's met Kay Breezy. Like that's a damn man. Who is A. Tony Films? She shoots all the videos for Kay Breezy. She shoots a lot of videos out here. Oh, that's the little girl that be with her. A Tony shot, she shoot for Spottum, got him.  I didn't really kick her out. So that's how you know she know. So, and they met each other. They were with Tony. And so they do know each other. Like far as, they've seen each other, been in the same room. They shook each other's hands. What did he have to do with her career though? Like how could he have stopped her career? We signed the deal is with Sailor V, which is Stan and Stan is Sean Cotton's partner in the business. In the partner. You dig what I'm saying? Let me say it.  That's how we even came across Stan was through Duffy. So when he'd get up and lie and say I wasn't around when Breezy signed the deal, I was at the table, me, Mr. Johnson, which is the city girl's lawyer and King Von lawyer, her brother, the producer, Kay Breezy and Supreme. You dig what I'm saying? Like he was there hiding. He never showed his face. Even Stan was trying to get us to, cause he would, he tell people, I don't have a problem with Supreme. You have to say that though. That's the politically correct answer because you really don't have a problem with me. You're just a hater and I'm the truth. So just like when he told people that he told, yeah, you're not to take the QC deal.  We hopped in my Jeep in my house in Atlanta and drove Coach K sent us the address and P buzzed us in. Well, nobody there but me and Yeyo. No, and Yeyo wasn't even in the meeting when we had the meeting. It was Coach K right here and P right here. You dig what I'm saying? Yeyo was in the studio doing a Zaytovan beat. Dig what I'm saying? So it just to be a lot of lies going on, man. Cause when we left there, we went to Warner Brothers Atlantic call, the guy who signed Charlie Pugh and Kevin Gates and Kalani. We went to 300.  Me and Yeyo and I didn't spend a lot of money. I ain't spending a lot of money with none of my artists. That's how I know this is a blessing.  So now we doing this documentary on the Larassa and you here come rainwater with this dry Hayden.  You dig what I'm saying? But it's out there now with me. Our publicity is good publicity. Why do you think they keep coming at you? I think they come at the movements. It ain't me. They don't really, they don't have a problem.    So I can't tell you it's a tricky question, but I don't think like them so I don't know. Wow. When you say that these guys, okay, Sean Cotton never, I'm going back to him because I wanna understand how he said that these guys pretty much that was using that you guys met with would use him as a plot to get people to sign to say that they could be on say cheese. He said what? The guys that you guys met with in Miami, the Miami people. He says, hold on. Okay, let me say this.  None of that, the weed, shit, all of them.  That's a, man. Okay, but he said. He said that was his business partnership. Correct. But he said that they, but that's why he don't do business with them no more because he said they would use say cheese as a, as a, as a like a springboard to get people, which makes sense. No, but he's lying. They get people to sign because they know they would have a say cheese plate. You know what I mean? They get to play their videos. They get the interview with say cheese. They get the, they get to open that gate up. And when that didn't happen for Kay Breezy, you guys felt like y'all was let down. This was, this, this the thing. We only went over there with them for TikTok. We had everything else. Kay Breezy was the only artist in the Metroplex going, getting paid to come to the middle schools, high schools and elementary schools. Nobody was doing that, not nobody. So when Stan and reach out to us, to us, to DJ Duffy, we get down and we don't know Sean's involved. When we find that he's involved, we're like, okay, whatever. We still trying to do business cause business is over everything, right? So you, so now think about this, y'all. You signed to this company. I told you this before, E. So your best interest is to make money, right?  So he posted a one time cause Stan made him and he posted it again and we're trying to clown her by the hairstyle that we did on the album cover. It didn't work. It backfired. So he- What didn't work? The fact that when he tried to clown her? He tried to clown her. But it didn't work. No, it didn't work. No, it didn't work. So those are two posts that he made for her. You did what I'm saying now.  Why not post her to make money? This same thing not gonna happen. Do you have different boundaries? We have paperwork aligned for- Cause you and Tune had, I looked at that project and it wasn't just a, it wasn't a bad project. It was actually, I enjoyed the project. I went over, I watched it. I have my first time really locking in and seeing an OG person cause I wasn't tapped into him like that. When I seen you guys as documentary, you guys were working together cause you put me on the phone with Tune that day and I met Tune at the Lennox Mall in Atlanta and you guys was real tight. You guys- He was staying with me when you met him. He was living with you. Yeah.  All the time. Sean Coyne used to live at your house there. He didn't live with me but whenever he came to Atlanta he, you know, come on, you good.  There ain't no problem. So you let him stay there for free? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I didn't even know. I didn't want no posts. I didn't want none of that. When they deleted this page the first time he called me and I called a guy that worked for Grand Hustle and we was on the phone and he told him how to get his page back. These are true story facts, man.  That's crazy. And he involved, man. He ain't want to tell this out. What? I don't want to tell you this out. They don't want to tell this out. I didn't know you and him knew each other like that. And he wasn't broke. That's what I'm saying. It wasn't no broke shit, it involved like he. So he wasn't broken and he just like being around you. Those guys look up to me, man. Right now they watch my page from fake pages right now. You say so. Sure, Cotton. You think Reign sent a message to people. Reignwater. Toon all the way in. Toon, they look up to you. Yeah, for sure. Here you go.  They admire my mind. You deal with what I'm saying? That's what it is.  They admire you. The ideas and yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That's crazy. That's paint doing the music review now. That's literally my thing. So you gave Half Paint that idea? Gave it to him. And you and him know that you. I paint my guide or I don't got no, you ain't never heard me get on here and try to down paint for them. No, no, I ain't nothing wrong with that. I just didn't know, but you gave him the idea. He didn't tell you that. To do the reviews. Most definitely a thousand percent, a million percent. He got it for me. He came then. I pulled up on him to do it with him. This guy sitting behind me is one of the guys we did it with, one of the first people we did it with together. Me and Paint. How do you be coming up with all these ideas and helping the city like this? That's why I say everything that's going on, he be involved here. You gotta put it in. But you just like to give your input. No, it'd be so the situation we manage in an artist, that's me solely.  Yeah, correct. Everybody that I work with was creative. So this the thing, I'm not taking nothing from a Sean Cotton tune, those are smart guys. You did what I'm saying. Rainwater not smart at all. But those other guys. You ain't letting Rain make it. He ain't, he ain't. A lot of people like Rain to say he's smart. In that category though, those niggas are different. But he's the only one out of them.  He ain't smart as tune. Yeah, but the numbers stay different. The numbers of, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. When you're in Rome, homie, you do as Romans do, bro. Do you understand what that mean? Yeah, you say it, it's cloud chasing. You do as Rome.  But now you didn't figure out how to get your numbers up to 100,000 with us. So now you in Rome, nigga, when you're in Rome, you do as Romans do. You feel me? If everybody in there is pimping, then it's gonna be a pimping area. You dig what I'm saying?  You think that these are out of a lot of fake followers? I know, it's not, I think, I know this. I know this. These is 1,000% facts. He ain't the only one, either. So you saying that you think there's a lot of guys? I know for a fact there's a lot of them. Fake followers. See, the follower game, they know how to match that now, but the views and the comments, man, I know the guy who, man, say. That's funny to you.  And he's a blue-checked artist. Hell yeah. So these guys are fabric, is it a fake-to-you-make-it type of situation?  So I don't wanna do what Romans do, so that's why I don't get what I'm, you feel me? Yeah, you're not gonna, you're too real to be fake. Exactly, but I still get to do what I do because I'm a real guy. So you just not gonna buy into the buying and making the blue-check happen, buying the views?  I wouldn't raise like that before this, so I ain't finna do it now. So that's to answer your question while I go. That's why I don't get that, because I ain't like that. Wow, so you definitely opened my eyes, you know, it was a guy named K-Twan Thame came on here and he had a million subscribers, bro. K-Twan.  No, because he said Drake had texted him and stuff like that, that when you start saying, like people were saying that he fabricated all his views and followers. I know K-Twan ain't cool guy, uh, I don't know.   But you know for a fact that certain one of these high profile. Yeah, man, these bloggers too, man. The bloggers do it? Man, they do it the worst. Come on, you start playing games, man. I don't know. It is a real interview question, though you've been for real right now. No, I'm being real, because I'm being honest with you. A few of them, I look at their views and they follow us and they subscribe and I be looking at all of them. And they'll add up. No, some of them, a lot of them do. No, so a lot of them don't add up. The ones you probably look at and add up but a lot of them run and it's not adding up. And I said them watch the dude get his pay deleted, I said them, I said them watched him bump 40,000 in two minutes. You hear me? What? I ain't playing. Yeah, I did. I said there and watched it. Bump 40? I said there and watched it. How much he paid? I don't know how much he paid, but I watched him do it. But you seen the nigga, in the same date? What? In the same hour? Yeah. I did. These are facts. Bro, all mine is organic. I can promise you that. Stay like this. I ain't touch nothing. I don't even know what. I ain't touch nothing. I ain't got it with the house. No, I'm out. No, man. So, do you think you would? So, cause, Kate Breezer. I ain't working with none of them, Esa. Don't ask me. What about Kate Breezer? Ask her your question. The artist, yeah, yeah. But those other guys. What's she doing? I mean, I'm trying to get her back on the show. She lovely. She lovely right now. Is she interview open for interview? Can you get her back on the show? I can get her up here. Okay, man. Come out. Kate Breezer. I want to interview her again. I love her, man. She lit these mics up. Nigga, I want to get a freestyle. I had a girl came another night. I can't wait to get hers out. She was there. I don't forgot it. What is her name? What's her name? Nichelle. Nichelle, lit this whole up. What? She lit this whole up, man. Hey, man, I gotta get Kate Breezer back in here, man. I need a fresh, at least 16 bars. She gotta give me something. I love it when she came in, man. Y'all came in here, man. She went down through there, man. I got T-shirts now. Oh, yeah. I'm for show. Come on, man. You got the jacket on already, man. You boss talk affiliated, man. You come through with these interviews, man. You see, I stayed away. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're more, that's probably one of the more vocal interviews.   Cause the first time you came on here, you want to get loose. You want it to get loose on nobody. But now, you know, since your name have been spoken on the show. When I asked yourself this, why do they keep saying my name? Like, why, like, like, why do you keep, why my name keep coming up? But you have a lot of hands and a lot of things that happen in the city, man. Yeah, I understand that. So, I mean, and you niggas is competitive, man. Damn, like, do you think Dallas is where I need to be with the music? Is any hits out here? What's going on? Cause I remember I talked to you before and you was kind of like, a little until it was some good music out here. So it's always good music. It's always talent. It's always movements and waves are gonna come about now. What's gonna happen for it to get to the mainstream? I can't tell you that no more. I don't know. Cause it's so, it's not a, it's not a one problem situation.  It's the people that can help them also. I've told you this before too that it ain't just the artist, it's everybody.  Cause you got people, like I said, old buddy get to speak now and get to not, well, he gets listened to a little more now because his artist passed away. That's not proper.  Artists did pass away. What was the name of that guy that passed away? Mode three. No, I wasn't talking about him. I'm talking about didn't, what's the name of that artist that, I thought it was all the sign to say cheese that passed away too. Oh no. It was a little dude that passed away. Oh, Lil Lode. Lil Lode. Yeah. So let me tell you this. So just how you know that Sean Cotton is lying. Stan Lil Lode was at my house in the studio with me and Breezy at the house though, right? Stan asked me to manage Lil Lode. He said, Supreme, once you managed Lil Lode, I looked at the message and I didn't respond. Lil Lode was sitting where you at. I was like, I was like, you so Stan? I said, don't he, don't, don't, don't Sean manage him? He said, no, he don't manage him. He said, you can manage him. No, I hook it up. I said, I bet. So when I asked Lil Lode that I said, hey, man, are you full with Sean? Yeah, I'm full with Sean. Yeah, yeah, woo, woo. And I left it alone because I already knew that when the word got back to Sean, he was gonna shout. He was gonna throw, that was gonna hate. That's what they do. They make up shit, man.  And just think about the stuff that I don't catch because I don't catch it all. You know what I'm saying? Let me ask Lil Lode, you knew this guy. He was at the house, yeah. Man, I know all these people. Yeah. So what were you doing dealing with Lil Lode? Man, what you mean? I'm Supreme. I'm trying to figure out what. I'm Supreme. Why was Lil Lode at your house? Recording, he came to record. And you used to let him record there? Yeah. Facts. Rest in peace. Cool Ladoo, man. Cool Ladoo. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like I said, it seemed like he was just going too soon, man. Then he was a friend or something like that. Yeah, he did a lot of, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he went through a lot, man. But just, man, just a lot of, just a plethora of different things that you've dealt with. And I make movies, man. You hear me? We really into the film world. So y'all doing movies now? Yeah, man. I'm on my second one. Now do documentaries? We doing it all, man. Filming, we in the film world. What you wanna get in? When you ready? We doing it. All right, man. You hear this? All right. You playing all right? I ain't playing. All right. Do you see he just got my drop? Why'd you got a drop from him? Yeah, you did a drop with dope, too. All right. So, man, how's the movie thing going? How did, what made you get in there? Man, I see, see, I thought I was escaping these niggas. You weren't getting away from the wrappers. You was trying to get away. Yeah, and it didn't work. They came and found me. And they shot you away from the wrappers, yeah? I'm not even messing with black people right now. They sure come, this nigga drain water. Drain water? Yeah, drain water. Cocaine rain. That's cocaine rain, man. Wow, man. You know that? No, man. They ain't never heard of a talk to him like that, man. So, I mean, It's like dealing with internet supreme right now. Man, rain water, like I said, he come over here. He always have a lot to say, man. He talk a lot about the different things that he got going on, done, done, done.     You can't tell it.  I mean, I made a million dollars. Boy, stop lying, boy. Stop it. Wow, man. It becomes comedic. But could you and rain ever sit down and just talk and kind of hash things out on the things that you guys are doing? Sit down where? Like, wherever, like have a conversation. Could it solve like the issues that, where things are being said behind, you know, each other? That question I already got answered. Yeah, I can sit down with rain. I'm a man, I'm cool, you know, and I was cool. You sit down with Terry Blue, and it went pretty good. That was a mistake.  Why was that a mistake? Man, that was a mistake, man. You did what I'm saying, but I would sit down. I thought it was dope to see y'all sit down together. So, BZTV, shout out BZ, that's the only reason I wouldn't did that. You did what I'm saying. I don't know BZ, I know Terry. I don't know BZ, I never met him. Yeah, you messed with the wrong one then. So, because Terry, I was gonna call you in, he never did nothing to me, but I mean, I don't know what you guys have, but y'all, y'all do it. When that's how you talk to him? I talked to him in a little bit. Since when? It's been about a couple of months. He been on here. So, how many months though? About two, maybe. Probably maybe longer. No, about two months.   You need to change that name. I don't look at him as something. That was global to some other type of name, because don't nobody know him in Minnesota, Atlanta or Iowa or LA. They don't even know him in Louisiana. So you and him, I thought y'all had straightened everything out? No, no, no, no. I seen them the other day though. Y'all seen it, so y'all were rockin'. Hell no, he was walkin'. Damn, they're runnin'. The nigga runnin' from you? Man, come on, y'all be trippin', bro. Y'all, I thought y'all was cool. Nah, y'all ain't playin'. I'm one for nothing to do nothing to them, but I seen them and, you know, they be on the internet, like I was telling you, they be really be doin' all of that.  So when I seen them, he act like he ain't see me. I stood there, I said, okay. Man, I don't wanna talk about the E, what else you got, man? We ain't got to do all that. Wow, man, I thought y'all was cool again, to be honest with you. Nah, we not cool at all, man. Cause you had to do the show, it seemed like y'all, when y'all did that show, it was just- He tried to come with some little, I had to check him on the show. Y'all had a little, it was a little spice, but that's what Money Moses do on here. Nah, not like that. Yeah, Money Moses do it, not like y'all, but I'm just sayin', he talk with people- Nah, Money Moses would've seen that, he would've been like, okay, yeah, you upset, nah, nah.  You can't do that to him, you Money Moses. I'm just sayin' that, but I'm still, I'm glad I feel it, I'm getting pissed off.  You can't do that?  See, this is why they gon' be talking about Money Moses in this whole truck. No, Money Moses is real aggressive and they be like, I don't know about that nigga, listen, that thing I be playing like, I'm not like this, bro, I'm like this everywhere I go, so if you ever try me, just watch it, just watch yourself, bro. I'm like this everywhere I go, bro, just not no actors, not no, none of that. This is real. If you set up with something, I don't wanna sit down with none of these dudes, I really, really don't, but I would do it for the cause of the Metroplex and Texas. I'd love to see y'all get things, but it'll never happen because they scared. You know, I've been telling people about the We Are The World movement that Michael Jackson did. You're in the wrong for that, my brother, hold on. Listen, now I go, Chris Brown could never be, could never just be Michael Jackson, cause he never did a We Are The World to bring people together, to try to bring a cause together. We need to do that, Bob, and you need to be, hey Supreme, you need to be on the front line of trying to bring this city together with a Almost We Are The World type movement. He just threw it up about the ground, you didn't catch it. What? He didn't say what he just said. He just said he didn't say that he can sit down with them, but he don't think I already, he already cut himself out. He don't think they'll do it. No, and I ain't like that. He's like, he'll do it for the culture. Go on ahead and just keep it like that.  Bro, you can't sit here and say that. Yeah, but I just, I do it for the big picture. You dig what I'm saying, but, See, there with the butt, don't do that. Look, look, look, look.  I said, no, you not. I said, what you want? I don't got time for that, nigga, what he talking about? He said, man, we're now Supreme. This is how we, I went to go sit down with Terry Neil. He said, nah, man, we got, I said, all right, click me in. Soon we get on the phone, this nigga gonna talkin' crazy. We was on the phone for 30 seconds. Is it gonna happen? He too much, man. I gotta say this about you, about the Rainwater, I ain't gonna lie, he comes on the show, but I wanna say this, man, you was doing an interview and you prayed for these people. I prayed for Percy. You prayed for OG Percy? I thought that was dope, though. No, man, that ain't worth it. Bro, you prayed for the whole, they all was on there and you took him to the church. That make the nigga be quiet, too. Yeah, you prayed on there for these folks. Why did you pray for him? You felt like he needed to pray? So that came to me the night before and I wasn't playing when I did that. He did, you know what I'm sayin'? I was serious. So I take that back. I don't feel like it was a mistake because I did it genuinely, you know what I'm sayin'?  Already? After the fact. But you still prayed for him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. I'm a good guy, man. I ain't down with all of that, man. Man, listen, man. We love you, man, supreme man. Dope interview, your energy, right, man? See, man, how can people get a hold to you if they're tryin' to link up with you, get that good management?  You don't want them to contact you? No. What about managing their music career? No, no.  Yeah, but if you ain't doin' no vlogs, no films, no movies, no videos, don't contact me, but you can find me at Bob McGriff on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. Go check out my YouTube channel blowin' up right now. Yeah, yeah. That'll get you truth. Y'all subscribe to my YouTube channel. You subscribe to my YouTube channel? We gotta subscribe. Yeah, I'm comin' on up, man. I love it, man. Thank you so much, man.  Say, man, you don't get mad at me no more, is it? No, I can't promise you that. That mean I love you, though. You feel me? That's how I feel, cause I be gettin' mad at everybody now. Like, you still gettin' mad at nobody, but then around, you can get mad at me and talk to me. Yeah, you can get mad at it, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, you know? Yeah, I don't count much you get mad. Already, man. Say, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, what a boss is, though. Sure.


I'm Rebecca, and I and my co-boss, Rick, would like to welcome you to Nerd Night East Bay. Thank you for coming out here this Thanksgiving week. We've got some really great talks for you. We've got kind of a sexy, sex theme going on. It's pretty safe for work, but it's still kind of sexy. A few things before we jump into the talks. We've got the Oakland Public Library here. Yes, check out the waiting notes back. So if you haven't yet, during the break, please go over, say hi. We have book lists, resource lists that tie into the talks provided by our wonderful speakers. We have the opportunity to sign up for a library card if you don't have one yet, which is sad and shameful and should be corrected immediately. We also have the Berkeley Science Review here. So if you want to get a copy of that, it's available at the same table. So let's talk about our first talk. It's going to be about the spiders. Now, we're all nerds here. We're scientists. We love spiders and all animals. Of course, they're rad, but they're also kind of scary, okay? We can admit it, some of us find them to be so. If you don't think that they are, I just wanted to present a few examples. Yeah, the Goliath bird eater. Yeah, this is the world's largest spider by like total mass. They're very large and come on, it's terrifying. I'm sure they're very friendly. And this one is the largest spider by length, man. Yeah, yeah, the giant huntsman. So I had to put this away like pictures so you could get a good perspective. We are scientists.  We study it, but it did make me wonder why are spiders particularly so creepy sometimes? And so I did a little minor research on it to try to figure out if there's any understanding of why spiders particularly creep me out anyway. And there have been people looking into it, but there's no definitive answers. What I found is that in one study that found it's probably conditioning, meaning people had bad experiences, people who have arachnophobia specifically had bad experiences with spiders at some point, got bit or something like that, and it sticks with them. This study, however, also found that when children were given an open-ended question, what's the thing you're most scared of? Spiders was the number one answer. I think it's kind of interesting. But other studies have sort of indicated that maybe it's not about conditioning and more just genetic, that people have it running in their families, arachnophobia specifically. Yeah, and some people hypothesize that the specific characteristics of the spider just really activate something that we're hardwired to be terrified of because of their angular legs and scuttling motion and unpredictable movements. And there's also this hypothesis about the nature deficit disorder. Oh, is that making noise? That's all right, let's turn it off. Okay, sorry, that kids don't spend enough time outside enjoying nature, interacting with nature, and therefore become uneasy with things from nature, specifically insects, but I guess I also could apply to spiders because they're also creepy and crawly. But again, we're scientists. We are going to dispassionately study, no, we're going to passionately study spiders, but we're going to have a positive, enjoyable experience because these are cute spiders that dance and do awesome things and have sex. So I know you're dying to learn about the sexy dancing spiders, so I will not delay any further. Here's Erin Brant to tell us all about them. Thank you very much. And I suppose I should take a minute or two just to address what was said about the scary spiders.  Those are like some of the favorite spiders of tarantula keepers because they're so friendly. And the huntsman spiders similarly. They tend to freak people out a lot. They live in Australia, but they are absolutely totally harmless, much like all the spiders we have around here. So there's no brown recluses here. We have black widows, but they haven't killed anyone in 40 years. And in general, spiders around, especially in this area are totally friendly. So without further ado, I will begin my talk where we will be talking about sexy spiders. So here is an example of one such sexy spider.  So today we're talking about sex. Yay! Sexual selection menace. So when we study sex in a biological context, we put it in an evolutionary context. So sexual selection is half of the evolutionary forces that drive animals to evolve in certain ways. So if you think about natural selection as survival of the fittest, so on sex, intersexual selection. So intersexual selection favors traits that cause one sex to battle with each other for access to the other sex. So we have examples like these chickens battling for the lady chickens. These elephant seals battling very bloodily for the lady elephant seals. So we also have between sex selection. We have intersexual selection. And this is where you have elaboration of traits, frequently called sexual ornaments. It's not a Christmas tree thing. It's just some characteristic that is attracted to the other sex. So you frequently think of things like birds. Look at that male bird, how goofy he looks and he is going to attract the lady birds. Or look at that monkey who is evidently attracting the lady monkeys as well. So this latter part of selection, this between intersexual selection is my particular subject of interest and what people in my lab study. So why are females choosy? Why do males do these ridiculous things? What is it about the females that they're choosing these things? So there's a few different hypotheses and they're really difficult to tell apart. So for instance, the male might provide something into the female. So the male might say, hey, if you mate with me, I'll provide you a snack. Or the male has good genes.  Or sometimes the females like males just because. So in some cases, literally the cases happen where in certain fishes, the females like the color orange. And if the males are orange, the females will like them and it's not really connected to anything. That's just the case. And finally, the male could be manipulating the male. The male could be manipulating the female, rather, such that the male knows that the female likes a certain thing so he manipulates her to mating with him even though he's not a very good male. So this is kind of a complex body of research and it's difficult to tell these hypotheses apart. So how are we going to investigate this? Well, we're going to use a model system. And when you think of model systems with sexual selection, you're gonna think of birds, maybe fish, maybe birds or some more birds. But I'm going to make the argument that jumping spiders make a fantastic model system, in particular this genus hibernatus. So these are all examples of jumping spiders in the genus hibernatus. These are all males and this is about a quarter of the number of species that are found in this genus. They're found all in North America and into Mexico. And the males are very brightly colored, they do songs, they do dances, we'll get to see lots of that, it'll be really exciting. The females look incredibly unremarkable. So when you see them on the ground, when you're looking for them, they're indistinguishable from closet dirt. And I actually have some live animals next door, if you guys wanna have a look at some point, you can see the difference between a male and a female. Okay, so what's interesting about these, why are they good model systems? Well, first of all, the males have these dynamic visual ornaments and they do these songs. So they're visual and then they do these songs. So these are just three sounds as examples of one species of jumping spider in the genus, hibernatus. Multiply by that by 150 and you'll get an idea of the diversity of the songs that these guys sang. And we'll get to show you a little bit of that. So here's an example song. These are the different sounding. Like the males? Or we don't like the males. So we are going to use the natural selective force of the applause meter to determine. So, male one quality of dance, applause. Coordination of dance and song. Male number one. Coordination number two, vigorousness of dance. Number one, vigorousness number two. Hibernatus plain Jane has won this. So hopefully we've had a practical demonstration that has brought home a few of the basic principles of doing science. So, in summary here, first of all I think the most important thing to recognize with us is that females are incredibly powerful in these systems because the males are not going to evolve anything unless the females want it to happen. Second of all, complexity is everywhere in nature, everywhere not just birds or birds or more birds but you can find really interesting and fascinating model systems in lots of different places just like studying sexual selection in jumping spiders for instance.  So I will close with a picture of, okay, questions. Yes. How did they first discover that these spiders being sound if they can't potively hear them? So this was actually something that my advisor discovered and it was known that these jumping spiders do these crazy dances. So my advisor actually said, I wonder if they do vibrations? So the very first setup that they had was basically a record needle that they had that could detect the vibrations and very analog transfer them to recording media. And we have much more advanced techniques now but it was very much just, I wonder if they do this and why would they ever? Yes. What was the outcome in the videos we saw that those males mean success? That's a good question. I would say that, oh, did the males have success in the videos? I'm not entirely sure. Most of those were my advisor's videos from his grad work and I would guess that probably about half of them had females that were not in a position to be accepted or rejecting. However, usually, at least in the species I study, there's about a 30% mating rate. So chances are pretty good that the female found him acceptable. Also, sometimes if the females don't like the male, she'll cut the whole thing pretty short. She'll kind of lunge at them or eat them. So didn't the males, did the males? No, so there's kind of a time limited dance that they do. So some species is one to five minutes, others will go for two hours. But at the end, they'll mount the female and you have to get the paint brush out. No, no, that's not a real female. It's not for her. They can't figure it out. Yeah, Natalie. Are there any capital gains breeding programs or do you always have to cut them in the wild? Well, I have a kids breeding program going on that consists of a box of spiders in my lab right now. They're very, very difficult to rear. So my lab mate reared some and she had about a 75% mortality rate. You pretty much have to collect these one by one in the desert. The babies are just very delicate and they're incredibly difficult to rear. Yeah. Have you found yourself generalizing to... Have I found myself generalizing these principles to humans perhaps, in general or specifically? So studying animal behavior, it's really, really difficult not to anthropomorphize absolutely everything. And I think we kind of tend to have a bit of a barrier there. I personally don't ever, ever, ever want to study humans because they're so complex and you have to file paperwork and all these sorts of things. So I tend to not think of those things in those terms. It's kind of challenging not to when you see certain examples of behaviors like different courtship and like, oh, that's a courtship behavior, ha ha ha. But in general, no, because animals are so diverse but so specific to their species. It's difficult to draw generalizations. Yeah, that's it. What is the capture process like for jumping spiders? It involves a vial. It usually involves someone very dirty and covered in bruises from falling off cliffs and you do this. And when you see one, you drop to the ground and gently nudge him into the vial. So if you capture it 25 in a day, you're doing pretty good. So it's, so when you're looking at female preferences, so you're trying to figure out what females are interested in, you need sample sizes in the hundreds. So, and they all have to be immature females because once they're mature, you can't know if they've made it and they only made one time. So if you shoot to get three or 400 immature females, that could be probably three to four weeks in the field at least every day. So it's a challenging system to work with for that reason. Okay, one. So are females the only choosy sex? That's actually a really interesting question and that's a big area of research right now. There's the idea that there's choosiness on both sides and I think it would be ridiculous to say that that just doesn't happen at all because at the very least the male needs to make sure it's the right species, otherwise he's just wasting his time. So because we know so little about the choices that the females make, we haven't really been able to look at the other side of that yet. But I think that would definitely be an awesome direction to go into after we have the female end of things work out a little bit. Yeah, I can't really see you guys. Yes, with your ornaments. You mentioned the novel male earlier. So like gummies will go for the least common color of gummies in the pond. You mentioned the petapult moment. Are there like remixes to like different songs sometimes? So as far as we can tell the dances are pretty genetically determined. We don't see a lot of variation and usually if there's variation that means the females aren't gonna like the male. That said, you do see hybrids of these guys in the field occasionally. We see them rare enough that it's difficult to find them and look at their dances and figure out what's going on with that. But definitely just, you know, those two different mountain ranges change their dance with, and they haven't been separated for that long like tens of thousands of years, which is a blink of an eye in evolutionary timescale. So these things are definitely changeable and we think that it's primarily genetic. One more? Yes. So the only plasticity or do the males change their dances at all is the question. The only plasticity that we've seen is sometimes, so some of these males have like an hour or two hour long displays and every once in a while you get one that kind of jumps the gun and he'll skip steps and he never has success with that. The females do not go for that at all. So other than that, everything seems pretty stereotyped within a species. But that's definitely something to look at. Again, because we have such small sample sizes because these guys are so hard to find, it's difficult to get a good sense of what the variation is like within the species. I think that's nice. One more one earlier, I was very excited to tell everyone that during the break you got to sign up for a library card. We're gonna have a 15 minute break and when we come back, we will have brain science stuff.


How are you today? High five. Are you ready to learn how to swim? Okay. Okay, remember to learn how to swim first. It's to be easy, huh? Can you show me the bubbles in the water five seconds? Okay, put your eyes in the water and blow the bubbles slowly. Okay, one, two, three, four, five. Excellent. Hey, you did your bubble five seconds? Yes. Okay, now you can try to fly like a bird.  Okay. All right. Come here. Open your hands. Bubbles and let yourself fly. Good. One, two, three, four, five. Wow. Excellent. Yeah. We fly again. Show me how you do. And go. Two, three, four, five. Very good.  Okay. Yeah. Okay, let's go. Big bubbles and top. Go. Bubbles fly there slowly. Wow. That's nice. Can you feel you are flying in the water? Yes. You can fly. Can you show me again? One, two, three, four, five. Stop. Wow. Okay. All right. Elizabeth, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Okay. We go for five second bubbles where you fly. After the fly, what you can do with your hands, imagine you are like a big tiger. So you do one, two, three, four, five bubbles. And then after when you want to look up with your head to breathe, right? What you do with your hands is a tiger. Tiger, tiger, tiger. Like imagine you work inside the water and in the same time with your mouth, you take a breath. Listen. Let's go. Breathe. And bubbles. One, two, three, four, five. Tiger, breathe. Oh, bubbles. Okay, do the bubbles. One, two, big bubbles. Three, four, and five. Tiger with your hands. Breathe up and bubbles again. All right.  Elizabeth, go slowly. Remember? One, two, three, four, five. Bubbles and breathe. And again. One, two, three, four, five. Okay. Let me help you, but go slowly. Yeah. All right. Let's go. So look at my hands. One, two, three, four, five. Tiger and bubbles. One, two, three, four, five. Very good. High five.  So you can breathe, okay? With the tiger, your head goes up, right? And show me the tiger after your bubbles. Come. Five seconds first. And bubbles. One, two, three, four, five. Tiger with your hands. Yes, and bubbles. Big tiger. One, two, three, four. Big tiger. Move your hands and bubbles. That's good. There you go. Relax your legs. Relax your legs. There you go. Bubbles, bubbles, bubbles, bubbles. Elizabeth, are you okay? Remember, hey, if you want to look up with your head, right?  Are you sleepy? Are you sleepy? That's why you're doing this because you're sleepy.  What have you done, huh? Okay? Show me this goggle. Wow, you look like a mermaid with this goggle, you know. Are you ready? All right, five second bubbles. Come. Go. One, two, three, four, and five. Tiger with your hands and bubbles. That's good. See? One, two, three, four. Tiger with your hands and bubbles. There you go. Okay.  When I hold you with my hands here, your head is near to the water, so you need to paddle if you want to go up. Okay? I maintain your body horizontal, so only you can paddle to keep your heads up. We do the last one and we are done. Okay, Elizabeth? All right, show me how you can swim. I will help you. I will help you to breathe. Okay, go get your flower if you like. All right, give me this one. We take it from Mommy, okay? All right. You don't want this one? Okay, we got another one. We will get another one later. Come. Come here. All right, all right, all right. Okay, so five second bubbles. Tiger to breathe. Five second bubbles again. Okay? All right, show me. Go, go, go, go, go. Slowly. So one, two, three, four. Tiger bubbles. No, no, no. No scary. Always slowly, okay? And go. One, two, three, four, five. Tiger bubbles. Very good. One, two, three, four, five. Wow. Did you do your tiger to breathe? Yes? Is it easy? Okay, swimming is simple. We have to do this until I don't need to help you anymore. You can do it alone, right? Okay, high five. Let's go get some prayer from Mommy. Say goodbye.


Discover the exquisite beauty of Islam with our exclusive poster collection showcasing the 99 names of Allah. Each poster meticulously presents the Arabic name, pronunciation and English translation, embodying the essence of our Creator. Elevate your surroundings with these high quality designs that not only serve as art but also offer a glimpse into the profound beauty of Islamic culture. Immerse yourself in the collection and unveil the magnificence of the 99 names. Links in the description box. Alright guys, welcome back to the channel. If you're new, my name is Bobby, guys, different type of video today. I'm going to read you something from the book The Alchemy of Happiness by Imam El-Razali. The reason I want to read you from this book aside from Imam El-Razali being one of my favorite, if not my favorite, Islamic scholar of all times is because it speaks about naturalism. And this is a topic that is debated nowadays, especially in the online sphere, which is kind of contradictory because we're discussing nature online with technology after all. But you have a growing camp of people, some of them neo-pagans as well, that want to return to a more natural way of life. And within their worldview, essentially they're describing hardcore materialism, that what you see is what you get. There is no mystery behind anything. There are no miracles and of course there is no God either. The only thing that truly exists and reigns supreme is nature. If you go out into nature, you are subjected to the laws of nature. There might be a bear that will eat you.  After all, we all fall slave to nature, but they do not understand, of course, that there is a hierarchy that it goes higher than that. They're limited in their outlook of life. They want to limit everything to physical occurrences. Very similar to the Darwinist nowadays that claims that everything started with the big bang. But anyways, let's jump into the book. I want to read from it because El-Razali can say it way, way better than I ever could. Guys, before we jump into it, however, leave me a thumbs up if you enjoy my content. Subscribe to the channel if you haven't already and check out the links in the description box to further support. And now with no further ado, let's read. Know, however, that there is an immense distance and wide interval between perceiving the beauty of the Lord and understanding that which constitutes its soul, marrow and essence. O seeker of the divine mysteries, those important astrologers and physicists, he's speaking basically about the scientists of his day, who shut out from the knowledge of God, ascribed changes and events to the stars and to nature resemble an ant. That seeing a pen making marks upon paper should be overjoyed and cry out, I have found out the secret of the effect. So here he compares the scientists to an ant basically seeing a pen and attributing the mark of the pen to the pen alone, but not seeing who is actually holding the pen. It is the pen that causes the marks. This class of men in another point resembles the natural man, who ascribes the influences in nature to heat and cold, water and earth. So a second ant, looking on with attention, sees that the pen does not move of itself, but rather by the will of the hand. And he turns and says to his first ant, You were mistaken, you did not perceive the real nature of the thing. You thought the marks and movements were caused by the pen. It is not so, the whole influence proceeds from the fingers and the pen is just subject to the fingers. So here he speaks about the natural man. This is the whole reason why I want to read this out to you. The natural man is of course the naturalist.  It is simply evolution, Darwinism, et cetera, et cetera, you name it. But moreover, we have paganism, neo-paganism nowadays as well, where people want to return to nature and tell you that as long as it's natural, therefore it must be right. There is no higher force than nature in itself. And this is why yet again I want to read this passage out to you because this has been written basically 1000 years ago and those people already discussed atheism, naturalism, et cetera. This is nothing new, but nowadays on YouTube people find out about naturalism and they believe it's the new holy grail. Believe me, it is not. Beloved, this ant resembles the astrologer who ascribes effects to the constellations. He does not know that he also is mistaken and that the stars and the constellations are subject to the angels and that the angels can do nothing without the command of God. So this is of course a theological perspective here where you simply go higher and higher into the hierarchy. You do not draw the end line at nature. Quite the opposite, now we enter metaphysics, we enter a supra-rational realm that the naturalist would deny of course. In the same manner as there is falsity in the way in which the material world is regarded by the natural man and the astrologer, there is also a diversity of views among those who survey the spiritual world. There are some who just as they are upon the point of entering upon the vision of the spiritual world, seeing that they discover nothing, descend back to their old sphere. There is also a difference of view between those who do succeed in reaching the spiritual and invisible world by meditation for some have an immense amount of light veiled from them. Everyone in the sphere to which he attains is still veiled with a veil. The light of some is as of a twinkling star. Others see as by the light of the moon. Others are illuminated as if by the world effulgent sun. To some the invisible world is even perfectly revealed as we read in the Holy Word of God and thus we caused Abraham to see the heaven and the earth and hence it is that the prophet says there are before God 70 veils of light. If he should unveil them, the light of his countenance would burn everything that came into his presence. And this is a sight of El-Razali that many people nowadays especially on YouTube do not describe. They shy away from it because it sounds a lot like Sufism. Yes, El-Razali here is describing spiritual experiences. El-Razali was surely not a stranger to spiritual experiences because here I want to read a quote to you. He said, I knew verily that Sufis are the seekers in Allah's way and their conduct is the best conduct and their way is the best way and their manners are the most sanctified. They have cleaned their hearts from other than Allah and they have made them as pathways for rivers to run receiving knowledge of the divine presence. So I believe it is fairly obvious that we cannot deny that El-Razali especially in his later life was Sufi. He proceeds, still the miserable naturalist who ascribes effects to the influences of nature speaks correctly. For if natural causes had no operation, the art of medicine would have been useless and the holy law would not have allowed to have recourse to medical treatment.   Ass means donkey by the way. The astrologer also says that the sun is a star which causes heat and light upon the earth. If there had been no sun, the distinction between day and night would not have existed and vegetables and grain could not have been produced. The moon also is a star and if there had been no moon how many things connected with the requirements of the law of the Quran would have been impracticable such as fasting, alms and pilgrimage. Since there would have been no distinction of weeks, months and years. The colors and perfumes of herbs and fruits exist also from its influence. The sun is warm and dry. The moon is cold and moist. Saturn is cold and dry. Venus is warm and moist. And the school of astrologers is to be credited in these representations. But when they ascribe all events to influences proceeding from the heavenly bodies they are liars. They do not perceive that they all alike a subject to the almighty power of God as God says in his word. And the sun, moon and stars are subject to his commands. There is also an influence exercised by the stars which resembles the control exercised by the earth that comes from the brain over the finger in writing while the force of nature is like the control exerted upon the pen by the finger. So as you can tell El-Razali makes very very long sentences describing it from all kinds of angles. I'm sure it would be very very beautiful to read this in Arabic but after all he's simply describing that nature does not do anything by itself. That there is a creator behind every reaction we see here. Action, reaction, causal chains are observed within our universe but the question becomes of course what was the first cause. The Big Bang cannot be the first cause because the Big Bang has to come from somewhere. The Big Bang cannot create itself out of nothing. So what was the first cause? The first cause of course in El-Razali's opinion and my opinion here as well must be God. When the health of a person undergoes a change and he becomes the prey of melancholy and suspicion and the pleasures of the world become distasteful so that from disgust with it he withdraws from all society. His position says this person is diseased with melancholy. Nowadays the doctor would say you are depressed. He must take infusion of daughter, of thime and bark of endive as a medicine. The naturalist says as this person's melody is of a dry nature it arises from a predominance of dryness which has settled on the brain. So yet again he's describing the naturalist and the scientists. This can be translated into this day and age as well. The psychologist would diagnose you with some sort of depression some sort of depressive disorder and then would give you medicine for that. The naturalist on the other hand would tell you that naturally something is wrong with you because you're not engaged within a natural life. Maybe you're not eating raw meat. Maybe you're not getting enough sunshine. Maybe you're not getting enough sleep. So both camps want to find the reason within the physical world from two different angles. The occasion of his having a dry temperament is the season of the winter. Until spring comes and dry weather predominates there is no possibility of a cure. The astrologer says this person being under the influence of melancholy which arises from a hurtful conjunction between Mars and Jupiter there will be no favorable change in his health until the conjunction of Jupiter with Venus shall have reached the trine. Now you know beloved that the language of all these persons is correct for they all speak and believe according to the degree of reach of their reason and understanding. These circumstances can never be understood in this sense either by medicine or by nature or by the stars. One may however learn to understand them by knowledge and the prophetic power combined for they embrace the whole kingdom of the universe with its deputies and servants and possesses the knowledge of the end for which everything was created. They know to whose command all things are subjected to what man are invited and what they are forbidden to do. Alright, that's it for today's video. I'm gonna cut it off here. The book is yet again called The Alchemy of Happiness by Imam El-Razali. I highly recommend this is not a complicated read and as I said it is thousand years old by now but it's still so extremely applicable to our day and age. Alright guys, but this is it. If you liked it, leave it a thumbs up. Subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. Check out the links in the description box to further support and as always may God bless you all. Much love and peace.


The challenge of the Yukon. A king! A new manomute! The Wonder Dog King, swiftest and strongest of Eskimo lead dog, plays as a trail through storm and snow for Sergeant Preston as he meets the challenge of the Yukon. Sergeant Preston Sergeant Preston was typical of a small band of Northwest knotted beliefs who preserved law and order in a new Northwest country where the greed for wealth and power led to frequent violence and bloodshed. But in spite of the odds against them, Sergeant Preston and his Wonder Dog King met that challenge and justice ruled triumphant. Sergeant Preston Sergeant Preston stood in the bank in Seahart, talking to a young clerk. And you say, Dave, that he was about 6'1", dark-haronized, heavy-set? Sergeant Preston, I'm not likely to forget that man of the day I die. I never before had any one pointed gun at me and ordered me to turn the combination of the safe. Had you seen him at any time before the robbery? Never lay dyes on him until then. Where, Sergeant Preston? I didn't know you were here. Oh, hello there, Mr. Everett. The sergeant was just asking me about our bank robbery, sir. Oh, about the robbery? Well, in that case, Sergeant, you'd better come into my office where I can tell you the facts about it. Certainly. They've told me to choose to with the only ones in the bank when the thief entered it. That's right.  Yes, sir. Right this way, Sergeant. Sit down, will you, Sergeant? Thank you. Now, if you'll just tell me what happened. Of course. It was after closing. Good night, Dave. Goodbye, Mr. Everett. Get back in there, Mr. Look here, we're closed for the day. If you want to come in in the morning, back in there. You over there, keep your hands in sight. This is an outrage. You can't get away with walking in here carrying a gun.  Go back to the safe and start turning the combination. Very well. Mr. Everett, I better do as he says, Dave. Well, that's being smart about it. I start to work on that combination. Come on, hurry it up. He means business. Come on, hurry up and get the last of it in there. All right. Every bit of cash in the safe is in that sack. Good. That first man that tries to follow me gets his head blown. I see. From the description Dave gave me, I think the thief is the man I've been after for quite some time. Who's that? A man named Joe Farrell. He's wanted for a number of robberies. Farrell? Yes. In Melville, a man died as a result of a shooting scrape with him, so murders have been added to his record. Farrell. Joe Farrell. That name's familiar somehow. I can't seem to place it. Why Joe, Sergeant? I remember now. Well, of course. Several years ago, that man bought a strip of land from the bank. I didn't recognize him the other night. He's changed. He bought land in Seahorse? No. There's about six miles north of town. He'd cash for it. There was a well-built cabin on the property, as I remember it. He didn't dig her about the price at all. You handled the transaction? Yes. That's why I remember it now. Sergeant, maybe he's using that place as a hideout. It's off the main trail. I'll look at that place. You can't miss it. If you go up Edgewater Creek and turn right off the main trail, it's the first cabin you come to. Well, thanks very much for your help, Mr. Rabbit. Not at all, sir. I'll be glad to do anything I can. Good luck. A short time later, King and Sergeant Frustin were on the trail, heading toward the cabin Clinton Everett had mentioned. The malty in his dog covered ground rapidly. That must be the place ahead of his king. No smoke coming from the chimney, but these tracks look fresh. Now let's see, boy. Anybody in here? Been killed within the last hour. All right, buddy. Your cover. I'm up there in the loft. Your door can't reach me. So that's it, eh? I guess what's daylight through you if I have to. But I got another plan.  There. Henry Barber, all you can? Yes. I'll walk to the middle of the room, keep your hands up. I'm coming down. Just so you don't get any ideas, malty, the excitement will be on you every minute. All right, sir, calling the cards now, but there's one thing you forgot. King! One point! One point! They were too late. He's gone. I should have dropped that dog when he walked in here with you. But he ain't going to do you any good, Frustin. Not for years, though. No. No.  There's nothing to stop you. You're holding the gun now.  As soon as you get here, we'll get started on it. Then you're expecting someone else, I tell you. Yeah, yeah. A little surprise for you, malty. You can start counting a minute. But believe me, you ain't got many of them left. A good time later, the door of the cabin where Sergeant Frustin was being held prisoner opened. The banker himself, Cliff and Everett, walked in. He walked right in just like you said he would, Mr. Everett. Well, we'll need some light in here. Did you know you surprised? Not at all. When I realized this was a trap, it wasn't difficult to connect you with it. And maybe you can guess what's in store for you. I know that neither one of you can afford to let me live. Yes, that's too bad. I'll get the rope, Joe. There's one thing you overlooked. What? That window. It was broken when my dog jumped through it. Jumped through it? Joe, did you let that dog get away? I couldn't stop it, boss. He was out of here before I came in. I warned you about that dog. Bing went for help, Everett, and he'll be back here with it very soon.  I told you that dog was poisonous dropping before it could start any trouble. I couldn't do it until Preston was disarmed. You either got me or I got the dog. Well, never mind. Well, we've got to work fast. I'll hit him over the head. You tie his hands and feet. Preston, we're going to set fire to this cabin and leave you in it. You'll never get away with it, Everett. You won't be here to know whether we do or not. King arrived in Seahorse. He went directly to the office of the town constable. You two were never very far apart. You came from the outside. Now you're scratching the doors. If you want to get back out again. What's the idea, huh? I thought the sergeant taught you better manners, fella. Trying to sink your teeth into me like I was a hunger. Hey, wait a minute. Preston was coming here to been here by now. You want me to go with you, King? I should have known something was wrong. Wait. I'll get my mac and ball, my King. You let... Actively, King knew it was a cabin burning. A cabin he'd left a short time ago. The dog set an even faster pace for himself. His one thought was a terrible fear of his master's safety. He must reach him immediately. King never hesitated. The door to the cabin was closed and already flames were edging it, leaping hungrily with every second. But the window... The malamute jumped through the window, the same window through which he'd escaped. Smoke was suffocating. Momentarily, the dog dyes blurred. And in the fury of the fire, he stopped, trying to locate his master. Well, you'll have to leave me the door. That's all right, constable. Thanks to King. When the dog came in alone, I knew that there was something wrong. What happened? When Everett was working with Farrow, the bank robber I was trailing. I came out here and walked into a trap. They tied me up and set fire to the cabin. Oh, I've done murderous skunks. They ought to hang for this. We're going to see that they're bought the jail for it. And it's up to a miner's jury.  The cabin might too soon, Sergeant. Look at that. The whole thing's caved in. Well, if it hadn't been for King, I'd have been... Come on, constable. We've got a trail to follow. Sure, Sergeant. All right, fella? On King! On... King Joe Farrow, set by a campfire. Both men watch the glow of a burning cabin as it colored the dark northern sky. Yeah, I still wish we was where we could watch that cabin burn to the ground. Listen, it's safer this way. Soon as the glow dies out of the sky, we'll know there's nothing left for them. That's when we start back, huh? Yes. When we get back there, we'll start looking around. Just to make sure there's no sign of any rope in the room. By now, there ain't nothing left of the rope for a president either. Well, I'm not taking any chances. If another Monty would have browsed to those ruins and find evidences of sharp pieces of rope, that would blow the accident very sky high. Ah, there ain't another Monty in 300 miles of the place. You never know about Monty, but... Hey, it's like somebody mushing along the trail. Why, they must have just compacted the cabin. If any questions are asked, we just noticed that glow in the sky and we're about to start over. Hey. You see that lead dog coming? Free lead. I thought there was only one of those in the Yucca. Ah, I guess we're just a jittery. For a minute, I thought it might have ended up...  It can't be! Presto! Get away from me! You hardly expected to see me again. Hey, are there any of these with two scums who are half the sergeant? That's right. The band goes on him, Constable. Yeah, Yucca, shall I fly with? Well, I guess you win, Preston. I never expected to see you again. The loot's on the sled, Constable. We'll start back to town immediately. Sure, sergeant. Both of you are under arrest. Yes, fella. Thanks to you, the case is closed. Copyrighted dramas originate in the studios of WXY's A Detroit. And all characters, names, places, and incident views are fictitious. They are sent to you each week at the same time and reach you from our transcription studios.