Why is this because we now don't have to pay for the machinery or the harvest cost to get that forage?  It's one of my favorites To kind of talk about like integrated production and things like that the beef cow is a harvester of forage So when we think about cattle being ruminants They have a really good opportunity to be able to take some of these really low quality feeds and things like that Like Warren was talking about some of that like straw and corn residues stuff that's really low quality We're not going to use it for anything else and they can turn it into a really high quality nutrient products in the form of beef So I think it's our job as producers educators and consultants in the industry To do what we can to kind of capitalize on this you know, what can we do to Feed more of those byproducts feed more of those things that we're not going to use for other Production and things like that so kind of being innovative when you're dealing with production So this idea about making the cow do the work kind of thing about grazing management It's all about balancing what the cow needs and what you have available for forage So we know that cow nutrient requirements are going to change throughout the year We also know that our forage availability and quality is also changing throughout the year So it's kind of a constant balance of Adding those two things up So this is kind of complicated I'm sure a lot of you guys have kind of seen this or thought about it before But this is just a graph showing how nutrient requirements of a cow changes throughout the year So it goes up very high after calving during peak lactation Which is about six weeks after calving. That's when she's milking That's when she's going to have her highest nutrient requirements And then you can see this really steep drop-off later in the year That's at weaning time when we've cut off that lactation So her nutrient requirements are going to be the very lowest After you wean that calf. So for spring calving cows, that's going to be fall Kind of when the the grass is going dormant and when people start harvesting and things like that, so If you kind of think about opportunities That are low quality feeds they can kind of fit into her low nutrient requirements such as corn residue and things like that and Then this is just kind of a typical graph graph of some pasture grasses This is kind of their life cycle and their quality is going to be when they're growing So if you think kind of in the springtime our pastures And forages are going to be going up in their production and their quality And that kind of coincides when we have cattle at their peak nutrient requirements When they're lactating and that kind of drops off as it as it goes dormant So kind of the rule of thumb with grazing forages is that the the more mature the forages the lower the quality is So if you kind of think about color as that grass turns brown, it's going to be lower in quality So I'm going to just kind of briefly go over some of these type of strategies I'm going to talk about both grazing in cropland and grazing grassland because I think these are just Especially in this area of the world we kind of have limited access to pasture. I mean a lot of our pastures are more fragmented further apart, maybe not such big pieces in one area and then Yeah, to kind of just get you guys thinking about some potential strategies that you could employ So moving into grazing cropland Just show a hands in here is there a lot of people who do graze cropland or are involved in that awesome So I kind of just want to talk about some of the economics this was a survey done in 2019 Where they kind of looked at from the crop sector and the livestock sector how valuable grazing residue was to those industries And I just pulled North Dakota and South Dakota out of that because that's where we are But if you look at the top of the graph in our crop sector Only about 20% of the corn residue that we produce in these states is actually grazed And when you combine that with our rental rates in both the states It contributes a lot of value to the crop industry in terms of rental rates Almost three million in North Dakota and almost 13 million in South Dakota And then when you look at the livestock sector Again, we have about 20% of the cows in these states are actually grazing crop residue When you add a rental rate to that We come to about six million dollars worth of feed value to North Dakota and 17 million dollars of feed value to South Dakota So this is kind of just demonstrating that grazing crop residue is really valuable for both sides of the equation We get rental rates on the crop side and we get cheap feed for the livestock side And I know That 20% is kind of low and I just want to say that I do know That some of the problems is cows are not always close to the cropland As well as in the Dakotas. We typically have a shorter timeframe between when those crops are harvested But and when the when the snowpack comes in so with some snow cattle can still easily graze residue But it's more when you get that hard pack or any ice or things like that. They're pretty much done But some other reasons that people don't graze cropland 20% of people thought in this survey thought that grazing would decrease subsequent yield And so for example in a corn soybean rotation if you're grazing corn residue a lot of people think that their soybean yields could be decreased And along with that they kind of think that it that could cause some issues with soil compaction They think it can interfere with their farming practices So maybe they have cattle on there when they want to be in the fields working it or things like that and some other genuine concerns is cropland typically lacks livestock water sources And fencing of facilities. So that's kind of like added labor for the cattle producer But I want to address Kind of these two common reasons so soil compaction and farming practices University of Nebraska put together a study to kind of talk about This this soil compaction concern and kind of get an answer once and for all how it really affects soil compaction So what they did This may be kind of hard for you guys to see But essentially what they tried to do Which create the worst-case scenario for grazing how bad can we graze a field and see how badly it affects soil compaction and things like that So what they did on this cornfield they had areas that they left completely ungrazed They had some that were grazed at what we would consider normal And then we had like our triple extreme situation We waited until the spring actually and then waited until it rained and the field got muddy Then we kicked cattle out on the field extremely high stocking density just to see what would happen and For the record I'm not recommending this extreme grazing, but we just wanted to see what would happen to the soil. So You can see at the bottom about 90 percent cover on the ungrazed 30 percent cover on the normal and only about 20 percent cover was left on the high-grace field So I hope you guys can just visually see the drastic change in these pictures Looking at the effects on soil Penetration resistance, that's like how hard it is to like push into the soil and bulk density. That's kind of like how much Space is in the in the kind of like the soil structure um So we have our non-graze and yellow and are really high-grazed in blue So you can see that it definitely did increase Penetration resistance and bulk density By including grazing, but what I want to point out at the top of this graph We have this red line And that is what we would consider our negative effects threshold So as long as we're below that we are not Expected to cause problems to plant growth If you get above that then there can be concerns about the roots being able to push through the soil and things like that But even in our really high extreme grazing It's well below the threshold. So not saying it didn't increase soil compaction But it's definitely well below where we would consider negative effects And now looking at surface roughness, I think you guys can tell us from the picture too That the trampoline and cattle walking it definitely did increase the surface roughness Pretty drastically they actually had to slow down planting and increase down pressure when they planted their soybeans But then we actually saw an increase in soybean yield By four bushels per acre from the non-graze to the extreme grazing situation And you might be sitting thinking well four bushels an acre whatever But at today's soybean prices say like $12 a bushel That's an added like $50 an acre an increased yield So I'm not saying that that's a good strategy, but it is something to think about So kind of take home messages from that soil compaction was well below negative thresholds They did have to slow down their planting But that was kind of offset by an increase in soybean yield and the thought there is that cattle are pushing more of that plant material into the ground So they're actually increasing soil organic matter And feeding the soil microbes which then is increasing nutrient cycling which increases nutrient availability for that soybean plant in the next year And again the extreme grazing is not recommended but we can what we can conclude from this study is That normal grazing is totally okay for soil and any of those negative effects. We saw were Back to normal after the soybean plant was harvested. So I'm going to talk a little bit about grazing corn residue I'm assuming a lot of you guys do graze corn residue or at least familiar with it We know it's an economical winter feed source We know it can help extend the grazing season Which means we're making the cow go out and do the grazing We're not feeding her harvested hay And we know that both crop and livestock producers benefit from cheap feed and from rental rates There are some problems with grazing corn residue Each of the plant parts is different in quality and quantity The main thing that cattle are going to eat is the husk and the leaf They're not going to eat the stock. They're not going to eat the cob and in today's world. We don't really have that much minimal grain left So that's really not a big diet component. They might eat a little bit of it But primarily it's about husk and leaf. Those are the greatest in energy and crude protein The problem is that corn residue is also susceptible to weather So how many of you guys in the dakotas have driven by a fence line and seen all the the the corn leaves and the husk blown into it That is unfortunately not in the field anymore, which means the cattle don't have access to those nutrients We also know that snow cover, especially ice pack, can actually physically prevent the cattle from grazing corn residue And we also know that precipitation can be a problem. So if you're grazing in muddy conditions That can kind of affect the soil as we saw in that last study And mud is a whole different conversation in terms of calf health and performance and things like that so things to think about The other problem with grazing corn residue is that our cow nutrient requirements are typically increasing throughout the grazing season But our nutrient availability in those fields is decreasing as weather loss and things like that occur So again, if you think back to that graph of the cow nutrient requirements They're going to be increasing as she advances in gestation talk about spring cows here So you may have to start supplementing and things like that later in the season as she gets closer to calf So some of my recommendations Um is to begin grazing shortly after harvest because we have a shorter window In the Dakotas before the snow comes Even if the ground's not frozen, I say get out there and graze those nutrients while you have access to it And wall cow nutrient requirements are really low um Because mature cows can actually easily gain condition on corn residue um Especially after you cut off that lactation Younger cows can kind of struggle on corn residue because they're so growing So they have higher nutrient requirements. Um, so I say with young cows Maybe it's a good idea to move them to fresh cornfields faster Um, so that they can get more of that high quality husk and leaf out of the field And again husk and leaf are what they're going to eat So pay attention to availability of husk on the field if there's a low amount of husk on the field That is low diet quality for those cows Um, so now moving in to talk about cover crops Um, I'm sure you guys have all heard the spiels about cover crops and soil health Um, I'm not here to fight that battle, but we knew we do know that benefits soil health. Okay I'll talk a little bit about that um, and we also know, um That cover crops can actually grow when our pastures are dormant Um, so that gives us an opportunity to have higher quality grazing for those cattle When our pastures and other things are actually dormant And we also know that some cover crops, um, can give us more options So maybe we have a chance to graze them And then we actually can mechanically harvest them later for silage or hay or things like that That's going to increase some of your stored forages And potential income so Um, just kind of want to highlight some of the good for soil things about cover crops Um, the First principle of soil health is soil cover. Um, so we want to keep that soil covered Um with plant residue that's going to reduce erosion and then that plant material is actually going to help capture some of that moisture Um, which is going to help, um, increase soil moisture, which helps with our spring green up and later crops and things like that So, um, the other thing is you don't want to graze if you're grazing corn residue You don't want to graze too much that you have a lot of bare ground Because that can actually have the opposite effect on the cover Uh, the second principle of soil health is limited disturbance. Um, so I'm not going to fight the no-till battle or the tail battle here Um, but it is a good thing to minimize physical and chemical disturbance on your soil Because we want to maintain that structure And maintain the microbial biology in the soil. So, um, the great thing about cover crops is they can actually be Drilled into existing crops or flown over, things like that. There's a lot of options The third principle is keeping a living root in the soil for as long as possible Um, the root is actually going to be feeding the the soil microbes and things like that Um, and it actually increases water filtration So the roots actually act like almost like little slides for the water to go down into the soil That's what we want. Okay And then the other great thing is that living plants Offer much higher nutrition to cattle Rather than dormant ones. So I don't know if you guys can really see this picture This was at an agronomy conference this summer This kind of just showing the the length of the roots In multiple cover crops this one over here on the left. Um, it's actually pseudan grass. You can see how Pretty crazy those roots are um, then we have oats turnips peas I can't read that sunflower and buckwheat or something like that. So, um, but really this is just trying to show off the root structures. So The fourth principle is diversity. You can kind of interpret this how you want But in general the more diverse your ecosystem is the more resilient to this So if you think about a cover crop with multiple species, maybe some are more drought tolerant Some can grow more with less rain things like that Um, that way if you have variable growing conditions, maybe You still have some of those species in your cover crop that are going to come up and and be useful Um, and then I always have to plug the multi species grazing um A lot of people have been having a lot of success with um grazing small ruminants, um or Chickens or pigs things like that. Um, in addition to their main paddle crop And then the other the fifth principle of soil health is integrating livestock. So, um Not only does grazing um Living plants give a higher plan of nutrition to cattle Um, but cattle are going to help increase that microbial activity and nutrient cycling on those fields Um through their waste and trampoline um So integrating livestock is a really good thing for crop land In general cover crop options are endless So you can kind of think about what works best for you and don't be afraid to start small You know if if there's like an 80 that's planted to something you want to experiment and see how it goes um Don't don't be afraid to just kind of dip your toes in and see how it goes The other thing is assess the cat assess the cash crop situation So if you're in a corn soybean rotation, that crop's only growing for half the year. Um, so think about ways to Keep a living root opposite of your cash cash crop Um, and then assess your cow nutrition requirements So think about when you're feeding a lot of those harvested forages Other opportunities, you know, even a couple weeks or a month That you could replace harvested store it harvested forage Um with a cover crop or something like that to make your cattle do the work to graze um And then specifically within cover crops annual forages are a pretty good option um because you have the opportunity to graze them plus hay them and sile them um Terminate them for a cash crop or stockpile it which means let it go dormant And you can actually graze it in the winter also um So with annual foraging you kind of have um some options you can plant them after cash crops um You can graze them in the spring before your passion is really green up. You can graze them in the fall. Um There's a lot of different pathways kind of talked about this already. Um Yeah, you can chop them for silage after you graze them you can cut them for hay um You can stockpile them. This is kind of what i'm talking about um, there's been a lot of producers that had success with just letting it mature in their field and again that kind depends on the cash crop situation um But annual forages can hold up pretty well in the snow in the winter um And people have had a lot of success with grazing an annual forage like sudan grass or something like that I'm just letting it mature and grazing it in the winter um, so again many options exist. Um, so think about things that will work best for you um, and again, we talked about this plant maturity concept So as the plant matures its quality is going to decline Um, but its tonnage is going to increase So think about what you need um for to be able to meet your cattle nutrition requirements Um, and that's going to tell you when you should graze it or when you should harvest it The other thing about annual forages, um, is tetanine and nitrate toxicity Um, sure you guys have all heard that before. Um, so potentially, um You should be testing for nitrate analysis in annual forages Especially in drought situations that can make it worse um But feeding a high magnesium supplement to those cattle and waiting until the forage is at least six inches tall Those are going to help combat some of those issues Um, so moving away from crop land, we're going to talk about some grassland ideas here um And I know that a lot of grassland around here is kind of fragmented in and pieces um These are some options that can be really successful even on a small scale Um, so just kind of think about how these options could fit in with what you're doing Um, one of the first things I like to bring up is targeted species grazing um So cool season grasses are the first ones to kind of green up in the spring um But invasive cool season grasses, um, which I'm going to talk a little bit more about Um, they're actually not as good for us. They're not as nutrient dense They're not going to give you as much tonnage and actually decrease your adaptability on these fragmented grasslands So, um, if we can target graze some of those cool season grasses while they're green while they're good Um before they kind of mature and lose their nutrients um That can help make way for more desirable species and also help um Give us a boost um in our cattle diets. So Again, I want to show this graph. Um I'm on the range side. So this is like second nature to me, but for those of you who haven't seen this graph before um This blue line kind of depicts the cool season grasses and how their growth curve goes um, so cool season grasses like cool temperatures and moisture Um, so they're the first things to green up start growing in the spring But then they're going to drop off and kind of mature when it gets hot in the middle of summer Um, and then they might have a bump again in the fall. You know, we see some of those cooler temps and rainfall in the fall Um, that can kind of green up those cool season grasses again Then this yellow line is our warm season grasses. Um So they like more of the hotter temperatures Um, so they're going to start start growing kind of like mid-summer Usually in this area kind of like july 1 is a good time that like we really see those cool seasons start to mature We start to see a lot of growth from warm seasons But this is going to change depending on weather conditions every year. So Um, so what do I mean by an invasive cool season grass? Things like smooth brome grass, kentucky bluegrass, crescent wheat grass and sheet grass Those are all invasive annual grasses That are not not as good In terms of tonnage and quality when we compare them to our native grasses. So um basically This is a picture of cheat grass Um, and you can see how it's like kind of green and lush like cattle cattle will eat that And it's high quality while it's great The problem is is that it turns brown and matures so quickly Um, and when it turns it's going to be really low quality. How to learn going to eat it Especially after it seeds out. They don't want that I I wouldn't want to eat that either But that's kind of this concept that as the grasses mature their quality really drops off. So um native grasses Actually helped maintain a higher nutrient value for much longer even after they go dormant They do decline in quality, but they're going to have a much higher quality than those invasive grasses Um, so some of our native cool season grasses these ones are also going to green up first in the spring Um, but western wheat grass is really great. Um needle grass and prairie dune grass um And then some of our native warm season grasses that are really great indian grass switch grass Prairie sand reed and big and little blue stems. So basically what i'm trying to say If we can target species Grays some of these invasive grasses While they're green We can kind of go in and hit them hard in the spring It's going to knock them back and let some of these native species come up, especially our warm seasons And what's the benefit of doing that? These are much higher quality They hang on to their quality longer And they're more beneficial as a dormant grass Especially in hay and things like that if you hay any of your grassland These are the desirable species Not that the invasives don't have a benefit because they do while they're green This whole concept is that once they mature they're kind of done for So I kind of wanted to demonstrate the difference in tonnage also We know that our invasive species are only going to give us about 100 pounds per acre per inch of leaf growth Versus our natives are going to give us closer to 150 to 200 in our cool seasons and almost up to 250 In our native warm seasons. So what does that mean? You get more grazing out of those species as well as them being higher quality So again, if we can graze our invasive species our invasive species while they're while they're green and they're growing um, that's going to give a Give a lot more room for our native species to come in especially our warm seasons um So so the idea is graze your cool seasons while they're growing and then get off of the pasture if you can to let some of those natives come in Um, so now I'm going to talk about some rotational grazing. Who's heard of rotational grazing? What do you think of when you hear rotational grazing? polywire moving cattle twice a day Stuff like that. Yeah That is the extreme scenario. Okay, you guys can do rotational grazing. You do not have to be that intense. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you some easy ways It's all about managing the recovery times and the grazing times in that pasture. So What is recovery time? That's when you're not grazing it. That's when the grass can Come back and grow again and get bigger So if you think about Certain species will have different different growth curves, right? So our invasive cool seasons They're going to grow a lot early in the season And then they're really going to drop off. So Um, if you're grazing them really hard while they're actively growing You're going to prevent them from getting into their reproductive phase and things like that. Okay um And then depending on how you rotate You're grazing intensity You know if you're You can potentially graze a pasture multiple times in a season if you don't hit it too hard and you let enough recovery come back um And the other thing is that while you're grazing You're preventing those grasses from maturing because you keep damaging the plant. So it has to fix itself before it can mature, right? Um, but we also know that as grasses mature they decline in quality So if we can graze those grasses enough though, we're not beating them up But we're preventing them from entering the seed stage or their reproductive stage They're going to maintain a higher quality for longer because they keep putting out that leaf material instead of the seed material And that leaf is what we want to graze. That's the high quality part So some really really simple options Deferred rotational grazing that's kind of what we talked about with this targeted season grazing So if you cannot graze your pastures while it's warm season time And maximize your grazing while it's cool season time and hit those invasive That's a really good option to Increase those desirable species in your pasture Then you can hit those pastures potentially multiple times when those cool seasons are coming up Another option is restoration grazing. This one is super easy. I think if you have the pastures to do it This is so this is like the least amount of work All you're going to do is let one or more go completely on graze for the whole whole growing season And you're probably thinking how am I going to do that? Like I need the I need the grass to to feed my cattle, right? um It doesn't mean you're not going to graze when it's dormant But if you can just stay off a pasture or at least a certain area in the pasture During the growing season to let those species fully Go through their life stage and put down as many roots as they can Then you can go back in in the winter and graze it when it's dormant. Yes, it's going to be lower quality But it's a good option for winter grazing and you can still get used out of that pasture And you don't damage it as much when it's dormant Okay And then the other thing I just had to throw up there is that intensive rotational grazing that I talked about at the beginning um Really fast and intense grazing to keep grasses in their vegetative stage you can graze paddocks multiple times But it's going to be a big investment for fencing and labor. So kind of things you have to think about um, so again grazing management On cropland and grassland, it's all about protecting your pasture health and meeting your nutrient requirements for your cattle They are like opposing forces. You kind of have to find a happy medium um Fencing and water can kind of hinder some of this rotational grazing because obviously you can't put can't fence off a part of your Pasture that doesn't have water and make your cows stay in there um, so those are things you kind of have to think about and again Consider starting small like if you have one pasture you want to try some rotational grazing on just see how it goes Um, I think it's a really good idea Um, so now kind of mentioned stockpiling a couple times in this presentation um Stockpiling grass is all about letting it grow to maturity and waiting until it's dormant to graze it. Okay? um Especially for some of our cool season species they have that bump of growth in the fall when it gets cold and rainy again um And that can increase the growth in that pasture and actually increase the amount of dead stockpile you're going to have on that pasture So I know um the dakota is we we got some pretty good weather in the fall and some decent rainfall So there's a lot of areas and a lot of producers that were able to increase the recovery of their pastures Um, and then they actually have extra grass to graze this winter um And those are all grazing days that they're not necessarily having to feed a harvested harvested forage. So um This is a really good picture that I think kind of demonstrates my point. I hope you guys can see it This is a fence line dividing two pastures in the exact same location with the exact same Weather conditions and everything but you can see how differently they have been managed during the grazing season during the growing season One is protecting soil health And providing additional winter feed as a dormant stockpiled grass And one is not going to give us anything Until it grows again when we have rain and a spring green up This is another picture that really demonstrates how Stockpiled or grass cover left on the pasture can harvest that moisture um This moisture either blew away or is already melted and evaporated This moisture is going to hang around because of that grass. So Again, um, if you kind of think about those growing curves of different grass species Um, the earlier you graze a pasture in the season The more recovery it's going to have the more likely that you can graze it as stockpiled grass in the winter Using a rest rotation strategy is really beneficial for stockpiling grass The longer you can go to let that grass be ungrazed the more you're going to have as a supply in the winter And dry cows again, they're at their lowest nutrient requirements in their life cycle They can pretty well meet the requirements on native dormant grass Those invasive grasses again, they don't hold on to their nutrient nutrient quality anymore Um, so you're going to have to supplement a lot more on those invasive grasses um But again stockpiling grass its dormant grass is not as high quality So as those cows advance in their gestation You're going to probably have to provide more supplement and again Winter weather conditions exist So even if they're out grazing stockpiled grass, you may have to provide some hay and things like that When weather requires it So some of my take home messages I covered a lot of strategies very briefly in this But think about ways that you can increase your grazing days Um Make your cows do the work to go harvest the feed they need right If you have the opportunity even adding a couple weeks of grazing Or a month of corn residue something like that that you're not having to feed hay That's going to be really impactful on your harvested feed costs Seeking collaborations on crop land Between crop producers and livestock production Um, there's a lot of benefits to this and again Even small windows of grazing can be really impactful. So if you think about ways that you can collaborate um, and again Soil health is really important on both crop land and grassland Um soil health impacts our plant health which impacts our animal health Which impacts our health? So it kind of starts from the ground up And anything you can do to increase diversity Again, you can interpret this how you want um increase your options Increases your adaptability give yourself options for grazing give yourself options for different species Maybe consider multi species grazing multiple plant species things like that not saying those are like the how to But just think about ways that you can increase diversity on your operation Um, and with that, this is my contact information um, again, I'm a range field specialist. So um With South Dakota State Extension Located in pier kind of centrally located in South Dakota So I'd be really happy to talk to any of you guys Um and answer any questions that you have Thank you


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They're finally on the leadership monthly deadline institute directs firms to remit value-added tax to FIRs All right, and then let's also quickly see what we can find on the daily trust newspapers How Boko Haram killed or how Boko Haram crisis killed? 300,000 children in northeast young boys used as suicide bombers many died of malnutrition 1 million others displaced in 12 years attacks on children must stop says UNICEF and an I swap intensifies recruitment army says reps demand reports of assets seized from ex-leaders an NNPC earns 366 billion nair from crude oil product sales in May Sheen by Joe most qualified most qualified rather to succeed Buhari in 2023 says a Nassar our state governor Platoon crossover reject compulsory COVID-19 vaccination. That's all we can find on the daily trust. Good morning to mr. Chris Wando. Thanks for joining us once again. Good morning All right, I think you can start with the conversation on zoning mohan as I says Presidency must come to the southeast the northern coalition is speaking once again about having the numbers to hold the presidency for a lot longer and White must also come to the north and of course there's also governor sully mentioned in the vice president Yamio Shimbaju So let's start off with that I I think it's a struggle, you know, here in Krishnamurti, here in Krishwando this morning, we might be having challenges with the network. So we're going to have to reconnect with Krishwando as a publisher of CKN News and get him to share his views on these stories. The first one, of course, he was speaking about is concerning zoning. I think there's a couple of people who have mentioned as a Northern coalition that say, of course, North has the numbers to hold the presidency for, you know, a lot longer. I think I also saw a story on Baba Med, you know, still speaking about the same zoning controversy. A lot of people would have the same argument that, yes, it is, you know, every section of the country has a right to vie for presidency. But of course, the idea of zoning, you know, really is to ensure that every single person gets a turn, gets a chance at the presidency, the seat of the president. But, you know, it also goes beyond just presidency. Even in states, in local government, there's also that same zoning arrangement where you hear that all this local government has had it for four years. Let's give it to this local government next with the public commentaries and some of all of that. So they always play those internal politics. The Polish parties themselves also play that politics and say, OK, whoever is going to be our national leader, you know, would be from the South or we're from the North and then the president, the person who gets the ticket for president will be from a totally different region. So there's that. Let's bring back Krishwando. Can you hear us now? Yes, I can. All right. Go ahead, please. Yes, as I was saying. So the North expressed me, since Nigerian constitution, that any particular parts of the country that we could represent, we could put a judgment agreement in the Polish party to try to align. I think it has been working effectively. Also, the last administration that brought in good luck did not turn. We are going to have a suddenly died in office. And we're going to have to go back. And also now run again as a candidate of the PDP from the South. But now moving forward. We believe we need to know that definitely our threat to come to play, which is why the people of the South believe that it is the atonement. If you can recall, since in Namda, Ziki way in the first public, no person from the South is a fashion help. They would make it to the president. And I just see that this is the period for the South to get the president. Good enough, the government of the South, the federal government, that they are the same between in a good state. Also can vast that the president should come to the South. Although they were not specific on which part of the South it should come to. So it is not going to be an easy task. Just for the South is to sit down and feel that the president will just be put on their laps or just be given a term like that. It means a lot of politics has to be done. A lot of negotiations have to be done. A lot of consultation has to be done with other regions. And so that whatever candidates are bringing forward, they can be accessible to all other regions. Anything short of that, sorry, on the part of the South is. So they have to make sure that they do, they consult widely, especially within the few men political parties, the PDP and the APC at its where. On the way to do that and be able to get the confidence of all other parts of the country, then it should be a mirage of an issue that they cannot just be bragging about. It is specific, it's about numbers and it's also about negotiations. But if you just feel that you sit down and say, oh, it is our right, it is our time to get the president in KTKT, my brother is under arrest and that will not work. Mr. Awando, I want you to also speak on the angle of dishonesty with some of all of this. Two points that I'm going to make is, in a couple of years back, when some of all the elections, or when some of these decisions were made, there were certain statements that you would hear back then, that this person would run and then it would move to some place because of that we need your support. And it was one of the things that the politicians used to gather support for themselves. But we always see that a year or two to the election, some of all those agreements are thrown out the window. There is that and also the numbers that the Northern Coalition claims to have. Do you think it's also unfair that the middle belt seems to be dragged into the north when these conversations are had and their numbers are pulled together with the northern numbers and also completely ignoring the fact that there's many, many Christian, I believe communities in northern Nigeria, that seem to all just be grouped together and called the north. Yes, I agree with you. Let me take you back to 1999. When Abbas Angel won the presidency in 1999, the fact was there's no vote for which to go on Abbas Angel. The fact was there's no support for Abbas Angel, but he won. He won with the vote of the north and some other parts of the south. That is on records. Yeah, secondly also, as you rightly said, yes, he's not had the number. But even at that, you also realize that when Abdullah won the election that was announced against Pufa, the people of the north voted heavily for Abdullah, even against their own son, who was a topa, the candidate of the NRC then, Abdullah was obviously the, and Abdullah was supposed to be whom, until that election was announced by Ibrahim Babangetani. What I might say in essence, there's a possibility for this kind of community, as I said earlier on, where if you're able to converse, your policies properly and be able to negotiate properly, even if not intended that it's not good for candidates of the south, then I want to say that yes, there are reasons in the north, especially some parts, the major part of the north, especially the middle part, and even the cardinal that I mentioned. So the tendency also is for them that they met, who are also good for a candidate from the south of Christian, such a place. The only or irrespective of whether the north is a bigger or the part, all address them, anybody that imagines as a presidential candidate what is, but we're able to make sure that all, that every part of the session of this country is carried along. Let me give you a scenario. There is also the tendency that the way it is going down, it's most likely that the presidential candidate will come from the north and probably the vice president from the south. That will be a great change in the most to come. That is virtually possible because the condition of the, if he's coming up in October for their approach, we're determining where they're going to send the president. If the chairman of the party comes from the south, that means that the presidential candidate will come from the north. Let's see how the sponsors are as it goes. Okay, many other stories across the newspapers. I want us to look at the one on the daily independence this morning. First of all, it talks about 30 state civil servants who are facing a bleak future in retirement. And the story in detail mentioned that since the Pension Reform Act of 2004, many states are yet to comply. And that means that the civil servants of this state face an uncertain future regarding what their pensions will be like. And we've seen time and time again Nigerian pensioners queuing up on the stories on the daily independence again, queuing up in front of certain offices in their state, asking for their pension to be paid. Since 2014 now, over 30 states yet to comply. Which way? Which way Nigeria? You remember the music by one of Nigerian legends? So no question. The music was which way Nigeria? Which way to go? I love my Pondaland. I want you to read that as a little bit. The song of every Nigerian as a machine. But the problem is that our social government at both the state and at the national level has paid me service to pension people. I remember in those days in Naguja, if you go to a place like zone 3, because I used to be a pension office or I didn't have a military officer. Any day you passed that area, you used to see them. All the people walking around, so we have, they just came back from their very own state and the sleeping house like some four weeks. You're for them to regularize for their pension to be paid. I think that as we do back then, they are able to try to get their own house together. But the issue that there is so much corruption going on in all the pension institutions. Don't forget that a particular man that was the mayor, that was appointed as the chairman of the pension, what do you call it now? I can't remember what that was called. Instead of making sure that pensions are paid, we must be an imbecile, decent and brilliant of mayor, that we are made professional. And at the end of this year, because this is a runaway, the John Deere, and it was reported that he was arrested in Nishio, thereabouts, and brought back to Nishio, so that has been the problem. The issue we have is that most people are paying me service. This is their entitlement. This is the instrument of this work out. They will leave for a little bit, when they are supposed to read the future of their network, and nothing is being done. It goes back on street, and it becomes very difficult. But you see these government officials, government officials, and the rest of them, even once they leave work, they put so much for their pension. Even when they are not pensioned, when they are not even retired, this government has a government. And most of the national assembly to become senators, and what have you, and continue to collect the salary here, and also collect the pension. So I think something that has to be done. What I believe that, that might be if the federal government and national assembly can enact a law, where this money can be deducted from source, directly from source, and paid directly to be pensioned here. I don't know how that can be done. Instead of just making a mistake of the government and the federal government to handle the issue of pension, most of them die for their pension. And it's not a problem that a lot of people just do that. And that is what we find out in Nigeria. You can also quickly share on the legislative governor signing the anti-open grazing bill yesterday. He has, of course, been commended for a few quarters. But quickly share your thoughts on how that is going across the southern states. Well, Governor, the agreement of the southern governor at the meeting that they held, I think it was in the government that they held the meeting. And it was agreed that open the bridge to be banned in the whole of the south. And I think, I don't forget when those states have done that and from other states, and from other states, but my own challenge, despite agreement by the southern governors, some states' governors have been signing that bill. And I don't know why they are doing that. With the governor, he must say that it's not going to be part of it. And then some other states are not going to do that. I think this is the way to go. The related piece we are having in Nigeria was due to the signing of the open grazing law. Before then, you could remember that people were being slaughtered on the daily business in dangerous states. That the government just said that the only way out of this problem is signing that open grazing bill into law. And what we did, that could be reduced, not to say it reduced practically, but I hope I am not of the stuff I am trying to do, is to be able to prevent that from happening in the south. It was already happening in a two-state, non-dose state, and other parts, even in a country state. There are people who were killed by so-called Pula Mihez men. So that is why I commend Governor Samu Lu for signing that. The issue of the open grazing law is also in progress. But the government has signed that and some other states have also to reduce it. So I commend Governor Samu Lu for that issue. Also on the Daily Trust newspaper, the headline there is about a report by UNICEF that the Bokorama crisis has killed about 300,000 children in northeast Nigeria have displaced many more and have caused a mental health crisis for over 5,000 children. This is also as the army released a report saying that ISWAP has intensified recruitment of jobless youth in northern Nigeria. When we look at attacks against children, Mr. Awando, does there really seem to be enough effort on the part of the government and the army to stop this situation? I would say that it's quite unfortunate. Let's look at it from the point that there are some countries of the world that have a population of just less than 5 million people. They can do a global. There are some countries that are just less than 5 million. Just many countries are not up to 10 million. Then the provides that on 300,000 people being killed in that particular country. That is a high rate of fatality. So, if you kill 300,000 people or children in that country, that means that it's close to about 10 to 15 percent of that population and eliminated. But here, we use this service to solve these issues. Probably because of our population of over 200 million, probably because of the sensitivity of our leaders who don't see anything wrong in what is going on. Probably also the level of leadership of the country, as well as our security against the homelessness plus our sense of continuity in tackling this issue. Feeling of children, that is in the north, 300,000 is not, we are not talking of animals there. We are not talking of chickens. We are not talking of goats. We are not talking of cows. We are talking of future leaders, not of people. One of those kids could have been a government. I can assure you. One of them could have ended up becoming the president. One of them could have been one who performed up with the solution to prompt them that Nigeria is foreign secrecy. They were killed. And some of them are still in the Georgia. Some of them are in the forest. They did not. Most of the children in the north cannot go to school. So, that shows the level of animal farm. Nigeria does not talk of animal farm. We are respected of human lives, don't think you can't any longer. So, it is that opportunity. I hope that the president comments we see that statistic. And the secretary of justice also we see that statistic. I can assure you that tomorrow, we will have very additional requirements. In fact, we should be aware of the UNICEF reports that they published anyway about the crisis. We will talk about kids. Let's move to the South East, where there's a story of the papers saying that kids over there would have to retake their West African senior school certificate examinations that they missed because of the citatome order by the IPOB. Share your views on that one. The IPOB has continuously said that they have canceled the citatome order, yet people stay at home on Mondays.  Personally, I was released. Let's say I'm from the Southeast and on the behalf of the people of the Southeast, I would say thank you very much to Waiye for that decision. We big thank you to Waiye, we are very grateful. I've been one of those that have been very, very worried about the disruption of this ongoing exam by so-called unknown gunmen on gunmen unknown, whatever you call it. The fact remains that education is key and if the children have missed this examinations, you take them another one year before they can be able to write an exam again. So the action of Waiye from this issue is very, very commendable. And it's a warning to those that are talking at the end of insecurity in the Southeast. So we also realize before that I thought I've come to say that they are not behind this case that they have cancelled the sit-at-home direct issues in their own and that they are not part of it. The question is actually, if I thought that initially they mocked with that direct issue, they are no longer interested in that and they have stopped that and they should go about their business on Mondays. Then why are the people of this country not coming in? I've come down to leadership, I've always said. If leaders see the right thing and assure the people and make sure that their lands are properly achieved, there are people who have to complain or forget that this has to be where they come from and they are attacked and some very good have been done in recent times by people. This is where the security system of their game who are those there? This I thought have come as categorically to say that they are not part of it. Then I believe the DSS, that is the top of the DSS. DSS, the spy agency of this country supposed to do DSB division. This is not just about the military. Yes, the army, the police are there to secure measure that people are not equal. But the DSS should be going through the situation and find out who are those behind it and who are those trying to make sure that they are arrested. If we can do that, then the issue of the struggle, some of them have not already tried to do something. So we have not came back to last week, walking down the streets of Anambra asking people to come and their lands are protected. Is that enough? Okay, Mr. Wando, I want us to also look at the story about COVID-19. On the Daily Independence, there's a story here that says the Nigerian Institute of Pharmaceutical Research, researchers and Kuba are collaborating to conduct clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines in Nigeria later in the next few months. So while that's going on, while there's about to be a collaboration between Nigeria and Kuba for clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines, and we see a story on the Daily Trust that says that cross river and river states reject compulsory COVID-19 vaccine, even though Edo, Ondo and Oshun states have made a compulsory for civil servants in their own states. But this one here, it is the Cross River State Commissioner for Health. Dr. Beta-Edu here that's saying that there is no need to make the COVID-19 vaccination compulsory for citizens and they don't need to impose it. And in Plata State, the same thing, the State Commissioner for Information and Communication really said the same thing. So how do we balance this? International collaboration for COVID clinical trials, some states making a compulsion, others saying it wasn't necessary. The first part of the question on issue of clinical trials, that is good. I've always been one of those that believe that there is need for us to domesticate the issue of COVID-19 vaccine equals the 19 vaccine. This is a policy for handouts from nations of the world, India, United States, United Kingdom and other western countries for us to have those vaccines. If they don't tell you to use them, that's not to be kept apart. I don't think we will have up to 60 million or more than 50 million vaccines through the period of this pandemic. Initially, it was three billion other vaccines, such place of what that was supposed to be. We're talking of a population of over 200 million. That means we are on that basis. And I don't know if I'm sure you must be hearing what the news are making around that. If you are going to pass to some parts of the world, I don't want to be specific now, they say that part of the vaccination that you had there, and they are not accepted in this country. I don't know whether the President, Minister of Health and the regular agencies have come out to be able to debunk that. And we need to hear from them on that. That has been proven that we go to that country and we've taken the vaccine manager. It is not acceptable. We know you have to take another one. We are back to the question on the issue of some space, saying that there cannot be a put-up. It is a fact to do that. Every state has a right to determine what to do. But what I want to say is that nothing could take their health, personally, not becoming a personal issue. If you think there's a need for you to get the vaccine, get it. I have taken my, I have taken the two jobs and the people that are still doing the necessary things I need to do, social distancing, washing my hands, it's the first matter. It is your life. It is not the life of the state governor. It is not the life of the state governor. It is your life. If anything happens to you, the super governor or the state governor that has no vaccine, that has no COVID, that has no need to shut down and they're supposed to get it. We know you're needing a vaccine.  So my own is that people should take their health personally. That's what I'm doing. And you go and get it. And that's the way to go. All right, thank you very much. As always on Tuesdays for joining us and for being a part of the discussion this morning. Yes, and I do agree with you. We need to take responsibility for our own lives because the ultimate decision really is up to you. Thank you very much again, Mr. Wendu. Have a great day. I think people are doing with me and do have a nice day. All right.


Hey what's up you two, I'm Zeke and welcome to the Dream Game Show. Today is week three of my AMD 52 week trading journey and so far I've made $9.30. If you guys like that intro, go ahead and leave a thumbs up down below. That beat was made by one of my old teammates I used to run track with in college. I'll leave his link down in the description down below if you guys want to check out a couple of his beats. Now I know $9.30 might not seem like a lot to you guys but I keep telling you I am the average Joe. I don't make a lot of money out there, I only have so much money to invest just like a lot of my subscribers that watch this channel. So slow growth for me is amazing as long as I don't take any losses. If I could go 52 weeks without taking any losses, this declared me the king of trading. But most likely I would not go 52 weeks without taking any losses. So as long as my win ratio outpaces my loss ratio to my risk and reward, I should be successful by week 52. Cross my fingers. But so far I'm up $9.30. Let me pull up my phone so I can show you the trades that I made last week that got me to $9.30 and then we're going to go over the news for AMD this week and then we're going to take a look at the charts to see what are my plays for AMD this week. Am I going to buy, sell, am I going to day trade, swing trade or call some options. In this video we're going to figure that out but let's pull up my phone. All right guys here we are on AMD we take a look at the week AMD went up 5.95% which is amazing. If I would about one share of AMD I would be up $3.14. This week in AMD alone I made $4 from doing a put credit spread on AMD. To remind you guys before I remind you guys what a put credit spread is I have 47 shares of AMD average cost is $30.80 I am up $1,180.98 that's my current position on AMD. So to remind you guys what a put credit spread is all you have to do is hit trade options and let's say for the week of July 17th. What I did was I did a sale put on AMD the price is at $55.93 if I do not think it's going to fall below $53 I would put in I hit the select button at the top and put a sale put on AMD and put a sale put on AMD 53 that means I do not believe the price is going to fall below $53. Even if it does fall below $53 I have to buy 100 shares of AMD but they're going to credit my account $61. A put credit spread is I also hit I buy a put and then you hit the strike price right below that means if I fall below I won't have to buy 100 shares of AMD I'll just be collecting the premium. So if I hit continue review and buy one put credit spread they will credit my account immediately $14 straight to my account and if I hit review they would use $50 for collateral. So remember AMD price right now is at $55 so for $50 I can't even buy one share of AMD but if I do a put credit spread and AMD stays above that $53 strike point I will be credited $14 to my account without having to buy any shares of AMD. So that is how I came up last week on AMD by doing a put credit spread. I recommend that you guys do it more out of the money than closer to the money so you guys can lessen your chance at losing. What I mean by that is if we take a look at let's counsel this if we take a look at the sale put it shows your chance of profit right there $52.50 the chance of profit is 81% of $52.83% but you'll make less money the further you are out from the share price. So that is how I came up on AMD last week. So to make our play on AMD this week let's take a look at the news and then pull up the charts. So I found a couple of good news articles over AMD so AMD and the video are going to be in the new Xbox in PlayStation 5 that's coming out. The consoles are going to be using their GPUs and also using AMD as their CPUs. So for all the new consoles that they are getting made and shipped out coming this Christmas season I expect AMD and Nvidia to see a boost to their company especially since they're going to be producing new consoles for the next 5 or 10 years or so so that's very good news for AMD and Nvidia. Since the Rona Rona news came out gaming has been on the incline so that has also helped AMD and Nvidia out at the same time. Some analysis says that the strike price of AMD the target price that they think that AMD will end this year is at $65 right now AMD is at $55 so that's a gain of $10 from now into the end of the year and they also see that Nvidia goes from $420 to $460 by the end of the year. So a $10 increase from AMD is that some of the professional analysis are saying that AMD will go their price target by the end of the year. And also some other good news is that AMD their latest GPU Navi their family has just been released a lot of computer gamers they're still using their legacy GPUs like the 1080 or the 2080 but they believe that the new GPU the Navi that's going to be targeted towards the high end gamers sometimes in the second half of 2020 and they also believe that the Xbox X in the PlayStation 5 comes out at a reasonable price that that will boost AMD share price and will also be a positive for the company. But those were a couple of the news articles that I found let's pull up the AMD charts to see exactly what I'm going to do this week. All right guys here we are on AMD the four hour 180 day chart I drew these lines during the week one and week two video if you guys want to know exactly why I drew these lines go back and check out those videos but let's skip forward a little bit and zoom in on the last couple of days I drew this line right here a very long time ago because it touched right here and it touched right here and I predicted that was gonna bounce off this line and then head back up so if we zoom out a little bit AMD this was the old resistance line right here and it was very near to the old resistance lines if this line was drawn out just a little bit more but it became super overbought so it sold off before hit the resistance line if we zoom in a little bit it could make a play back all the way back down to the 180 day simple moving average and if it comes right here I might buy back in I'm not gonna do any cause I'm going to just buy these shares because AMD is on the upswing if it trade if it continues to trade sideways I'll wait until it actually make a price move up or price move down but if it comes back in hits the $53.75 price point I will buy AMD for the upcoming week hopefully by Tuesday or Wednesday I could get in at a good price if it comes here and fall down to $49 I would still hold on but if it fall below $49.50 I'm going to sell AMD if I buy it at $53 I'm going to sell it at $59 just reading the charts right here that's my plan a week the Magdee is still high it looking like it's going to cross over pretty soon hopefully AMD just trade sideways but if you do pull it back I am going to buy in so that is me reading the charts this week there's nothing too crazy about the charts AMD did just cross the 180 day simple moving average last week right here so I'm seeing that AMD could possibly be on the uptrend or it could do the exact same thing it came right here bounced off the old support broke above the 180 day simple moving average and then broke down below and then all the way back down so I don't know where AMD is going to go this week but I do know that they did have some good news come out so I'm not going to just buy into AMD on the opening of the market Monday hopefully Tuesday I could get in on AMD for a good price but if it goes all the way back up I'm just going to stay out of it until it has a little pullback and then I'll be able to get back in unless some more big news come out and then I'm going to play the news so let's zoom in on the 20 day one hour chart to see if we see anything different there goes off the support it broke above the 180 day simple moving average and it's pulling back a little bit so if it become if it does come back to this line I am definitely buying back in okay guys point blank in the story I'm gonna buy back in if it comes back down to this line it trades sideways I'ma wait until it start having a upward trend again and then I'll be able to buy back in but what I don't like is that on D 180 day for our chart we zoom in and put an arrow on the end of this and zoom out it's just it's just trading sideways right now so it's not on the uptrend it's not on the downtrend it's just trading sideways so I'm waiting for some price action some volume and some price movement so I did pull up a question on my YouTube channel in the creator section I asked which company which you invest into 213 of your dreamers did answer this question thank you for being a part of the dream team if you want to join the dream team just hit the subscribe button down below it really helps out this channel a lot 63% of you says that you'll buy AMD and 37% of you said that you'll buy Intel and just looking at the comments along Intel because it has growth not right answer AMD has a lot of growth potential with their rising CPUs yes they do I want to say Intel only for the simple fact that they pay dividends don't just invest into a company just because they pay dividends okay and invest into some growth company guys don't only invest into companies because they pay dividends both are solid I don't think you can go wrong with either both are growing like crazy both are profitable that is by far the best answer to me being in it David 904 thank you for your response to that question all right YouTube there you go that is my play for the week on AMD I'm gonna wait for the price to pull back just a little bit I don't want to get greedy and get in right now and hoping it's gonna go up I want to get in at a good price point because I only have a limited amount of money I'm not I'm not rich I don't have a whole bunch of money to just play around with I actually I'm actually trying to make money from this so I'm gonna look for a good buying opportunity if I don't see it I'm gonna just be patient and wait because right now the hot the unemployment rate is at an all-time high and the stock market is at an all-time high and those two just don't it don't it don't add up so if there is a pullback I'm gonna have some cash available for me to buy the dip to help me figure out if you guys like this series I'm not going ahead and leave a thumbs up button if I get over I think the last video got 50 likes that lets me know that you guys like this series and I and I will continue to do this series but other than that hit the thumbs up button subscribe I'm Zeke bringing you the dream green show and I'm out peace


Unlike many people today, I'm an optimist. This strange condition began when I was 15 years old. That was 1996. I discovered that the future of human knowledge is on the web and my textbooks are all out of date. So I told my teachers I want to quit school and start my education on the web. Surprisingly, the teachers all agreed with it. Then I founded a startup working on web technologies and I get to join this fabulous internet community that runs with this crazy idea an anarchistic no one was in control political system that powers the internet till to die. Today, I'm Taiwan's first digital minister. I'm putting into practice the ideas that I learned when I was 15 years old. Rough consensus, civic participation and radical transparency. Surprisingly, it's working and it's transforming our society. In the spirit of participation I would like to ask you to enter this website on your phone on the browser. Slido.com That's S-L-I-D-O.com This website will ask you to enter an event code and it's the number you see here on the screen. That's today's date. Once you're in, you can ask me anything and if you see a question from someone else that you also like me to answer you can like that question. I will answer the questions right after this 10 minutes talk starting with the questions with the highest number of likes. In 2014, there was a live demo of mass participation. We occupied the parliament for 22 days. At the time, the MPs in Taiwan were refusing to deliberate a trade service agreement with Beijing and so the occupiers got into the parliament at night and stayed there. For 22 days, we demonstrated how to deliberate a trade service agreement with the whole society. There were over 20 NGOs participating, the Greens, the Labour, the Independence, everybody. We supported this whole deliberation effort with a radically transparent broadcasting, live streaming logistics system and it was powered by this community called GovZero. GovZero is a civic tech community with a call to fork the government. We also pay the government websites which are NZGOV.TW and make better open alternative that NZG0V.TW. For example, the annual national budget is 100 pages long in the PDF file and it's very hard to read. The GovZero community's very first project was budget.govzero.TW which shows the national budget in a way that everybody understands and you can drill down to each and every budget details. Today, the system is adopted by 7 city governments and it powers the participatory budget platform for the Taipei City at Budget.Taipei. Anyone can just look at this map, find a part of city budget that they care and type in any question that they want to ask and a career public servant actually comes forward and answer for that part of the question. So it becomes a direct dialogue platform not through the city council but through the career public servants to communicate with citizens. So why are there so many civic hackers in Taiwan like me who spoke to my clients during the Occupy movement saying, OK, I have to take a three week leave because democracy needs me. I think it's because, well, I'm 36 now we're the first generation that enjoyed freedom of speech after three decades of martial law and dictatorship. That freedom arrived in 1989. The year of personal computers. So for us, the personal computer revolution and freedom of speech is the same thing. Our first presidential election by a popular vote in 1996 is also the year that the World Wide Web got popular. So internet and democracy, they're not two things. There's one and the same thing in Taiwan. And so for the past 30 years when we see free software we always think of freedom of assembly, freedom of speech and never free of cost. We know that freedom is never free of cost. Our parents' generation, our grandparents' generation paid dearly for it and we need to use the software freedoms to keep it free as we did during the Occupy movement in 2014. And the movement caused a revolution, although a peaceful revolution. There was a radical transformation of social expectations at the end of 2014 and many occupiers just found themselves elected mayors when they did not expect it. And because of this, the prime minister resigned and the new prime minister and engineer said okay, from now on crowdsourcing and open data are just going to be the national direction. So the occupiers and the civic tech people who supported them were then invited as mentors as advisors to the public service to solve issues like Uber. Now Uber is very interesting because it is a meme, a virus of the mind. The meme was called Sharing Economy and it says that algorithms dispatch cars better than laws and so we don't have to obey laws. The meme spreads through apps from drivers to passengers to drivers and you can't really argue with a meme just like you can't argue with a flu. It's not in the same category. And so there's protests. The taxi drivers surrounded the ministry of transport and demanding negotiation by how do we negotiate with the virus of the mind? For us, the solution is through a deliberation that involves thousands of stakeholders. It's a scaling down of the deliberation we just did with half a million people during the Occupy and so we think we can do it. Deliberation, thinking deeply about something together is an effective vaccine against the virus of the mind and when everyone listen to each other and form a consensus, we become immune to divisive PR campaigns in the future. A proper deliberation with the focus conversation method involves four stages. The first stage is facts where we collect evidences, firsthand experiences and objective data. And then after that is confirmed, we move to collect everybody's feelings about those same facts. You may feel angry, I may feel happy, it's all okay. And after people converge on their feelings with everybody, we then talk about ideas. The best ideas are the ones that address the most people's feelings. And then we translate those ideas into legal ease and sign them into decisions. However, if the decision making process is not transparent, people on the street would speak a different language than people in the government. We need mediators, we need facilitators because otherwise people are not even agreeing on basic facts, let alone each other's feelings. In that situation, ideas become ideologies, virus of the mind that blinds people to new facts and to each other's feelings. And so our first step is open data that is making all the facts available, not just numbers, but also meeting record study analysis and ask the private sector and the civil society to share what they have. Next, we created an interactive survey on Polis to ask how people feel about those facts, we sent all the stakeholders a Polis survey at the same time to ensure a diverse group of participants. Four groups of people soon emerged, taxi drivers, Uber drivers, Uber passengers and other passengers. And the Polis system shows each group how well their shared sentiments are received by other groups, encouraging participants to contribute other more inclusive statements that show up as majority opinions. And the interesting thing is that it lowers people's antagonism because all these people on different sites are actually your Facebook and Twitter friends, you just didn't talk about this over dinner. So over three weeks of time, people actually converge on the center. At the beginning, the people were on the all the different corners, but because we say we only give fighting power of anything that people can propose that can convince a super majority, that's 80% of people, people compete to bring better ideas that resonate not only with like-minded people, but across the aisle. One of the things that resonates with practically everybody is now much easier for the government to meet with all the stakeholders and check with them one by one. Here is the consensus of the people. Do you agree? And if you do agree, how do we translate into law? They're bound to the words that they said during the live stream consultation and so the stakeholders agreed. When we ratified their agreements in August 2016, everybody knew that it's coming and everyone anticipated it. So today, Uber operates legally under the new framework, but so do the taxi companies who are now adopting the same model that Uber is using for dispatching its cars. So this method works. Now the next question is, can we scale this process of listening? Right after the ratification, I joined the cabinet as the digital minister to explore this possibility through PEDIS, the public digital innovation space. We're like policy labs in the UK at a national level. We have designers, programmers and we're automating away a lot of this chores of the public service. We're bringing radical transparency to the cabinet. By that, I mean all the journalists and lobbies get to ask me questions, but I only answer publicly. And it's not just to them, but also for internal meetings, for all the hundreds of internal meetings that I had since I was the minister, everything was transcribed and published. The written record was for everyone to edit for 10 days to publish it. The effect is very surprising. The bureaucrats actually become very innovative and risk-taking, because previously the minister get credit if things go right. But now, with radical transparency, if things go right, they get credit because their name was on the transcript. And because this is experimental, if things go wrong, it's all my fault. So under this condition, they become innovative and open to a lot of very interesting ideas. One of those ideas is adopting the same technology the FreeSoftware community is using as our internal communication platform. So we use EtherPAT, we use EtherCalc, we use a KanbanBorco weekend, we use RocketChat. Previously, the roadblock was on cybersecurity, but we were able to find the Sandstorm.io, a community platform that solves the cybersecurity problems through sandboxing. Our cybersecurity department audits it, and now all the FreeSoftware that runs on top of it doesn't suffer from the cybersecurity issues. And we have a lot of interesting systems written by young public servants that can opt for ordering lunch together or to plan travels together, and it's really good to have this choice. Also, we had an EtherPAT platform for people to participate online. It's like we the people platform in the US. It did not receive much attention because for cross ministry issues, people would just get those very blank, very bureaucratic answers that doesn't really solve their problem but just explains why they can't do much about it. And after I become the additional minister, we ask each ministry to send a team, at least one person, to serve as participation officers. We assemble this virtual team of 50 people online, using RocketChat and other tools for online engagement. So now in Taiwan, when people start a petition, they know that instead of just a dutiful response, they will actually get to meet with all the relevant ministries, either in Taipei or we will travel to those rural areas and islands if they are petitioning for local development. Together, we solve a lot of very interesting problems like this, without exposing any public service to risk. And so we relieve their fear, uncertainty and doubt around civic participation. The idea is that voting and collectivism is very easy. Everybody can do it but there's not much bits. And through open data, through having interactive Q&A forums, by setting up binding processes and by bringing the technology to people instead of asking people to use technology, we're building a deliberation system that scales to all levels of the society. And through this, we're building a unified democracy, not hijacked by ideologies and efficient democracy that responds to the demands of the society and an empathetic democracy that lets people take care of each other's feelings. And we do this just by listening and building technologies that help us listen to each other. Thank you for listening.


If you had one marketing dollar to spend, where would you spend it? One dollar wouldn't get me anything. Maurice Tabeli, co-founder of Ha Ha Tequila.  Absolutely. What inspired you to create Tequila? I drink Tequila, so looking at the back bar, we noticed that all the other products out there were land, and the actual category just seemed like it was ripe for disruption. Who came up with the name Ha Ha, and what other names were you considering? My brother Elliott came up with the name Ha Ha, and we were considering other Spanish words that we would convert to English to try to figure out something fun and interesting. What was the runner-up name to Ha Ha? You're going to laugh, but it was Despacito. Pink God, it didn't work out because that would have sucked. The reason it didn't work out is because the name was actually trademarked by a vineyard in California. Who did your branding? Emmett Shine, Alex Brands, Matthew Hasen of Gin Lane. What was your brief to them? A brief was that we wanted to create something that was disruptive and refreshing to the Tequila category. How much of the brand comes from you versus Gin Lane? I would say it's 75 us and 25% them getting what we told them we wanted. Did you see silly as a whitespace? My opinion is that the liquor category is like old and grandeur, and it was ripe for something that was catering to millennials and something that didn't take itself too seriously. So we kind of tapped that void.  Probably not.   I think Elliott's Game Company, what do you mean is more one-to-one? I would say this is a little bit small degree of separation from what his core category of humor is, but definitely there's a lot of synergies between the two. If you had to sum up the tone, feel, what would it be? Lighthearted, free-spirited, approachable, and fun. What's your social media strategy? Create things that are making fun of ourselves. Every other brand tries to become sophisticated and convincing that they're the best. In the top, we just say we don't know what we're doing. We're trying to make it the key to the brand, and people appreciate it. When did you have your breakout moment? You know, from the outside, it may look as if we are ripping, but for me, every day feels like a grind, so I don't have that Ha Ha moment where we broke out. It's still, we're continuing to grind every single day. What's your biggest business challenge at the moment? Marketing. We're trying to figure out where to spend our finite resources in the liquor industry. It's not a direct-to-consumer category. There's a three-tier system involved, so gauging your return on your marketing expenses is pretty much, it's not impossible, but it's very difficult because you're not the one making the sale. If you had one marketing dollar to spend, where would you spend it? One dollar wouldn't get me anything. What part of your brand still needs work? The brand, I think, is in a great place right now. What was the hardest thing you had to learn on the job? Being up against Diageo, Constellation, Pernod Ricard, et cetera. These brands spend a ton of money and cause accounts to take their product because of all this money, and we're fighting it with very little. What's been some of your creative workarounds because you can't go dollar for dollar? The differentiation is the key. We got a hold of another brand's deck. They're trying to raise capital for a new startup, Tequila, and in their Venn diagram, they had a section for brands effectively communicating to millennials. And ha-ha was the only one in that box. So I think when I read that, it was flattering, and it also was a reassurance that we're doing what we set out to do.  Honestly, we learned it too late. We knew about the three-tier system, but we didn't really see how it was gonna play out in real life. The disconnect between us and the purchaser is, it's not just one tier. We got our importer, and then our distributor, then the retailer. Scraping data is almost impossible. We do have small insights in various markets, but we learned that after we launched. And once we launched, it was no turning back. So here we are. What's one place you'd love to see the brand that it isn't yet? Stadiums. I wanna see people drinking our products when they're watching their favorite sports team and watching their favorite band. Which brands do you look up to? The Gin Lane brands, like Hymns, Smile the Red Club, which is one public.  Pre-launch. I said if we hit the numbers that we're at now, I would be extremely pleased. And now that we exceeded those numbers, I'm actually dissatisfied. Who do you consider your competition? I think we're dabbling in somewhere in between brands like Casamigos and then like Espelon, which Espelon's a tier lower than Ha Ha, and I would say Casamigos is a tier higher in terms of price point. We're situated right in the middle. So that's where we positioned ourselves strategically.  Maybe subconsciously. I think he did a great job with that, his bold branding and things like that really stood out on social media. You know, we never said it.  It might've come out in some way, shape or form organically just because he was, his launch was before ours. What makes you special? I think I have a good way of looking at things very quickly and making a calculation on a fly.  I think sometimes I put too much of a heavy load on myself and I become overwhelmed and anxious. Who do you look up to? I think anyone who has a team who's respecting and loving them and wanting to impress their leaders I think is who I look up to. What does a Sunday look like for you? Couple hours in the gym, couple hours of my kid, indoor, outdoor, maybe some tennis. Are you lucky? I definitely think I'm lucky. Sometimes it doesn't feel that way. You know, if you look from an outside perspective and see everything that I've accomplished I would say that by world standards even just living in the city is a lucky thing. Who is a person you'd love to have coffee with or tequila with, dead or alive? Eric Clapton. How much money did you initially raise? Three million dollars. What's the biggest lesson you've learned so far? Keep your expenses low, your overhead. What piece of advice do you live by? Don't sweat the small stuff.  Very little. Ha Ha's independent.   If someone said I want to be you what would be the first thing you tell him to do? Change your mind. If you could have one magical power, what would it be? Flying. How much of where you are right now is something you'd always visualized? I would never visualize this. Do you practice what you preach? I try to, but I don't always. Sometimes I say things and I preach things just try to convince myself and doing them. If you could start all over again what would you do differently? Nothing. What's your indicator of I've made it? When you see random people ordering your product and it starts to become a household name. What's the hardest part about working with your brother?  How has the market placed change since you launched? It hasn't really, it's only a year old. I think that we change it because we introduce something fresh and I think something like ha ha is unprecedented. What's after tequila? Is ha ha a platform brand? It could be. I think so many things that are related to the agave ingredient, like people use agave to sweeten their coffee or I think definitely a mezcal which is also made from agave is an obvious line extension for us. But it's really become a lifestyle brand and I see so many different ways this brand could start to grow into other categories. So far it's tequila and we're sticking with it but we'll see what happens. Maurice Tavelli, co-founder of Ha Ha Tequila. Thanks for coming on and answering some questions. It was a pleasure. I'm Ian Wishinggrat and we'll see you next time on I'm With The Brand.


ces grant. So moved. Second. Motion by Mike, second by Hal. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Thus brings us to the end of our agenda. I would entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second. Motion by Mike, second by Amy. All those in favor, please say aye. Motion carries. Meeting adjourned. Thank you everyone. Thank you.


helps if I turn the mic on, the way she can't hear me. We're here for Art Joy of Sharing and Art Joy of Sharing this year has started a project where we try to get the art and mixed media community to be more of a community and to talk and share and teach and I love that idea. So I'm here for you in January and this month we are going to be sharing five of our favorite small YouTube channels, inspirational places we go and highlight other artists, not myself. I love that idea. So I am going to go to YouTube. I've got my iPad down there and I'm gonna actually look at my library of things I've watched recently. And one of the first ones that comes up is my dear friend, Vicki Brown. Now I am not going to promote her channel because she's my friend. Honestly, yes, she's my friend. She's an absolutely hilarious human being. She's also a fabulous doodle artist and bookmaker and paper bead artist crafter like in her own right. She's wonderful. She constantly inspires me to be better with my doodling which she does a lot of Zentangle type doodling that I have like no patience for. And I admire her because she can do something I can't. I would like to be better at it. So she makes me want to practice. So her channel on YouTube is called Messy Table Studio. As at the time of filming this, I literally just watched her video for my creative year for prompt, the prompt tools where she talks about her favorite doodling pens and why they're her favorites and what the drawbacks of each one of them are. And I love that idea. So there's another one who I find interesting. Her name is Al John on YouTube, two words. And I'm going to link all these channels in the description below. She has a very unique way of creating embellishments and supplies out of inexpensive things that you probably already have in your craft room or you can get very cheaply and very easily. So I love to watch her channel. She has a series called Build Your Stash and Craft. And while I don't always, I'm not always interested in doing what she's showing in the video because some of it has strictly to do with paper crafting and card making some. I find it fascinating and it's very inspiring to see what you can do with very little. I love that. So there's another artist I really find inspiring her channel is Sharon Cohen Art. Now she does do a few haul videos which if you've been watching my channel for a while, I'm not that into haul videos, I'm not into bragging and I'm not into, you know, haul videos just make you buy things that you don't maybe don't need and don't necessarily want. But she has a way of doing her videos, even the hauls that, you know, she gives you good information about the products that she's showing you. But that being aside, why do I like watching her? She's a wonderful watercolor artist and I am a watercolorist and I love when she does her watercolor tutorials. Absolutely love them. Here's another one that I love and this is Draw Riot. And I love Draw Riot. They do have their own business and online store and they do showcase their products but they do have a really great channel and they do have a weekly drawing challenge, sorry, daily drawing challenge on their blog. And they also have good tutorials on their channel. I also love when they show how to use some of the products. You don't have to go buy their products but it's nice when they show you how to use them and you can take hints from their channel and apply them to what you already have. Does that make sense to anybody else? I do love their weekly, I love their blog especially, so I will say this. I don't watch their YouTube channel as much as I follow their blog and they have a daily drawing challenge once a month at the beginning of the month. They put out a month's worth of prompts and they encourage you to draw Riot daily and it is one of the two that I do do. I also do sketchbook school. So I love that and I love their daily drawing prompts. So again, I'm gonna link this in the description below. I just checked and their daily drawing prompts are also posted in their Facebook group and I will link their Facebook group in the description below. I'm gonna cut out these pauses by the way. I am pausing, you're not probably seeing that because I'm cutting it out of the video but yeah. Who else? How many is that? Does anybody know? Is that three? I think that might be three.  I watch it on a regular basis and by no means are these five, only five I watch. I watch so many channels. I have a huge subscription list but another one I wanna call out and bring some attention to, my dear friend Lisa Swank. She is a great artist in her own right and she is a member of my or has been a member in the past of my design team. She isn't this year but she is helping out with a few other collaborations. That's not why I'm calling her out. I'm just giving you guys the poop on it and being real with you. I love her art. I love her style. She comes up with ways of using things that I wouldn't even think of. She has her own unique spin on things and she has a way of expressing herself in her art that I just love and I love hearing her voice in her art. So Lisa Swank, I encourage you to go check all five of these channels out. See what you think. Like, share, and subscribe. And if you have five that you think I need to check out I sure would love to have you leave a comment below leave their channels in the comments below. I would love to do that. That's it for today. Don't forget to go out. Have a great day. Share your joy of art. Do something nice for yourself and maybe somebody else because they deserve it and so do you. That's it for right now. See you later. Bye guys.