The brilliant, the most poppy, the most poppy, the most poppy, the most poppy, the most poppy, the most poppy. Yep, Charlamagne the God. Andrew Schultz. We are the brilliant idiots, live and in the flesh. Okay, things a little different today. I don't know how I feel. Do you feel anxious? A little bit. This is a little socially awkward because I've really been cooped up in the house since March. I have not been in New York since March. There we go. Go wrong. I had a COVID test this morning. So you're good. Yeah, but I don't know if y'all are. I told you I went to the wedding in Florida. Besides that, I did have a COVID test and I passed my COVID test. After the wedding in Florida? No, before. Jesus Christ. I went into the wedding very healthy. Everybody at the wedding seemed very healthy. How long ago was it? When? It was last weekend.  Yeah, I probably got it. If I don't have it, it doesn't exist, put it that way. But I think you should take that mask off. You look crazy. I'm going to try. And it sounds crazy. Just six feet? Yeah, we're six feet. We're good. Taylor and Wax behind me, Wax just came from Florida. Wax ain't had no COVID test. He said he had a mask on. I do have a COVID test before. I think you're good. I think it's six feet. It's five weeks ago, that's fine. And I just not came from Florida, so that's why I got the mask on. Taylor was in Mexico, allegedly. Taylor's been everywhere, man.  And he's never had a COVID test. I don't know what's going on. He hasn't had a one. And no mask. And no mask. What's your mask got? God damn. So look, I think you should take off the mask.    Is that true, Taylor? Yo, people get turned on by weird things, man. Sometimes it's masks around your chin. Sometimes it's pets. You just never really know what it is. It's going to make somebody get horny. The only reason why... Imagine you got me tooed by a dog. Would that be a weird thing to happen to a lighter? One of the different ways to catch a me too. I had a lot of pets, yo. I had a lot of dogs. You know I had a lot of dogs. I still got dogs. I never even thought to even take care of them. Take care of the dog. You gotta say take care of them. Y'all coming out to gate shooting, huh? Yo, you gotta say take care. What did I miss? What happened? Oh, you've been busy starting companies, bro. Yeah, I've been... Listen, man, the dog days are somewhere along, so I just be sweet, you know what I'm saying? Who said that? Y'all are tripping, yo. What's going on here, man? Listen, some people love their dogs enough that they just, I guess... I love my dogs, bro.  I get to talk every time they come out.   I talk to a dog like that. That's his penis.  I get it, but you could actually dogs understand everything you say, so they just can't talk back to you.    Put it up? Put the pink thing back up. Yeah, it go right back in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.  Not only around me, though.  Yo, they're crazy. Yo, they have a male dog. They just go horny for it. That's how Melz is. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Now, don't they do that to horses? Don't do that. Don't put it on all of us. Don't they masturbate to horses? I think I've heard that before. I don't know if they physically do it with their hand, but don't they masturbate to horses? Nah, they masturbate dogs, too, though. Like, I do a lot of trainers who actually masturbate their dog if the girl is too short or whatever the case is. You can look that up. A lot of bullies do that. They do it for the bully dogs. It's not strange. Exactly, but they usually do it for, like, reproduction purposes, not pleasure. Yes, not for pleasure.  Yo, and I'm just saying that, though. They're like, that's weird, right? I see my dog and be like, oh, he needs a walk or he needs some water or some food. I say he needs some pussy. When that thing come out, I say he needs some pussy. He needs some pussy.  Well, maybe we're looking at this wrong. Maybe we need to open up puppy brothels or something. Listen, dog brothels.  That's it. A dog run. Dog come. A dog happy ending. Dog happy ending. Did you say a dog come? A dog come. Oh, I didn't know if you were just cutting companies short. And you were just like, what?  Yes. They just have a dog come where dogs get their come out.   Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not how it works.  See what I'm saying? I know you heard that all the time.  The dog's always horny. Yo, so next time a guy asks for a hand job is a woman going to say that?    Jesus Christ. That's interesting. Yo, but maybe we're looking at this wrong.   I mean, it's a different level of love. I mean, it's not a crime, is it? I don't think it's a crime.  A lot of breeders who do that. A lot of breeders do that for sure. Yeah, look it up. It's a normal thing. If somebody isn't giving you consent to give them a haircut, you do it anyway. The dog's not giving you consent to wash them. Your dog may not want to wash. Dude, like let's go. You literally force your dog to do everything. Sit. Fetch. Eat. We don't even know if dogs are really man's best friends. Dogs could be indentured servants and we don't know it. Seriously. Fetch.  Everything. Yo, that's true, man. But they be happy. You know when they dog, dogs got a lot of emotions. They tell you what's going on. So that's how they keep coming to you. Tell me. I don't know. I really don't know. Dogs tell you everything. All that. Yes. I know they're protective. They're protective. They do love you, man. My little, I have a dog, a little wasabi. You guys have probably seen wasabi on Instagram. No, she. She. That's why you kiss her.   I do kiss the dog. That's nothing. I kiss the dog.  I kiss her in the mouth. That's a white thing though. White people, we do that. I thought white people had the closest relationship to dogs. I did too. Wait a minute. I did too. It stopped today. I think my girl would be more upset if a girl gave me a kiss me, then gave me a hand job. Now, if I kissed that girl, my girl would be upset. But my girl, baby, she's gave me a hand job. My girl not going to be that upset. That's interesting. Because if you go to a happy ending massage parlor, some wives will not consider that cheating. No. Some wives will be like, you're just getting released. If I'm mad to the dog, then I heard somebody was drinking. I don't know who it was. Well, you're massaging another body part. I don't know who it was. Yeah. But it is no different than a muscle. You're massaging another body part. And can we just say one thing? What do you do to a dog constantly without ever asking? Pet it. You just pet in another part of the dog. Okay. Y'all asking the wrong questions though. What do you do with the dog? Come, what's the dog exactly? You have to do something with it. Where does the dog come go? Yo. Come on, bro. And who controls it? What does that mean? Like who controls it when it comes out?  No. Yes. Come on. I literally have it. It's a lot though because it gets stuck in it. Yeah, it goes all over the place. Yeah, it gets stuck in the girl. When have you all been seeing the dog? Oh, I've seen that a lot. I've seen that a lot. I used to watch my man breed his pimples. Okay.  He was just so excited. No, not even before you got stuck. Sometimes before you get in, he'll get on and be humping. Uh huh.  And there's nothing wrong with that. We shouldn't judge people that have... I'm just saying. Who controls it when you're doing it? Right. When you're doing it to the dog, you aim it on the floor. You know what I mean? You should put a sock on it. Or put a condom on it. Put a condom on the dog. We're going to do it all the way anyway. If you're going to go all the way, use protection. Use protection is what you're trying to say. Yeah. That is interesting. That is interesting. I mean... Less sloppy. It's a lot less sloppy. You have a lot more cleanup. Look, these are questions that we have to ask. You know, it's one thing to like make fun and make jokes on Twitter, but like we have to get to the bottom of this. I'm happy for all the dogs out there. You know what I'm saying?  We don't even know what that means. Now we know. We know exactly what it is. Hey.  From my owner. Especially a guy. Yo. A heterosexual male? That's a win. Yo. You think the dogs don't talk? Dogs definitely talk. You think the dogs... You think the dogs don't keep in school? Listen, this person might have a penis. Oh, you humped a leg? What are you doing? Please. Your owner just kissing you in the mouth? That's all. Come on, man. I do like this around the house. That is a deal. All right. All right. I'm serious, man. This is a wild time that we're in, bro.  He probably had breeders in his family or something like that. Somebody told him that just like does something. He saw that somewhere. He had to. No, you saw that somewhere. That's not just in your mind. No. Yeah. Yeah, you saw that somewhere. He saw that somewhere. He realized that he could do that. And he loves his dogs. And listen. Does DMX love his dogs like that? I don't... Yo, we got to talk to action. We need to talk to everybody who's ever named himself after a dog. Snoop. Snoop. Bow wow.  Okay. There's some questions that need to be asked around here for the dog lovers. Yo, that's a great one. I just need to know how much everybody loves their dog. We know what the bar is. Yup. And I have plenty of dogs. We know what the bar is. Dude, and I'll tell you no. I haven't even kissed a man. You don't love your dog enough to do that. Not even kissing him at all.   Don't pull your meat out around me.   What if wax pops up and it's a girl checking? Checking? The mic got tough and a lot is happening right now. Shit. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Look, look, look, look. Canine semen collection and evaluation. There we go. How to collect canine semen by manual stimulation. Wow. Does it look different? Go to videos.    Collect canine. There we go. There we go. Wow. It's something that happens regularly. This is for breeding though. This is what I was telling you about. This is for breeding. So, hold on.  Look at him. He's jacking. There you go. There's another dog there though. There's another dog there though. There's another dog there though. There's another dog there though, right?   Right? My God.  Is it going faster? That's really how fast he's pumping.   What is that? Is that a penis? Bro. This is neat.  Yeah. It's in a condom, right? Yeah. Bro, that is... Oh my God. That's torture.  Why is it not coming out fast? That's torture, bro. You gotta hit that 57, bro.  No lube on his hands.  What? Grabbing a man, grabbing a man meat. Man, that's wild. Yeah, but he's doing his job.  That's torture. How do you know he didn't lube him up? Nah, that's kind of odd.  How many legs? You trying to check off?    He's selling it anyway. He's probably getting the rest out. What do you use dog comfort? To make more dogs, Taylor.  I'm tired of it. I know. Enough. Enough, Taylor. Here we are. What do you use dog comfort? Great coupon. This girl's out of control. Mommy, what is this? Mommy, what is sperm? Do you have any ideas? What is sperm? Do you have any ideas? What is sperm? What is sperm? What is sperm? What is sperm? What is sperm? What is dog comfort? I think you're breathing. What are you thinking, Taylor? If it's weird enough for me that someone's jacking off the dog, it means they're doing it for something else, not for breathing. Listen, humans do that too. You got to put sperm in the cup to see if the sperm is fertile. Yeah. Humans. I didn't know they did that for dogs. Do you know how babies get here?  I'm just asking. I don't know.  I just saw a torture. I really don't know what the hell's going on. But we shouldn't judge. I think maybe that's one thing that we learn. It's like, maybe this is something we should all be doing. Maybe it's a practice that we can all learn from. Maybe. Harrison might have done it. Listen, we always say dogs are man's best friend. What are we, the dogs? That's what I'm saying. I've never heard nobody say, hey, man is dog's best friend. That's the fact. You know what I mean? What are we to do? If dogs are man's best friend, what are we to do? Companion. Companion. We're a companion, but maybe we could take it to the next level.  That's right. Maybe we can be a best friend. That's right. Maybe we could be a lover. That's right. Why don't we be more progressive? Also, who knows what that dog identifies as? And I'm serious. How do we know that's not a dog who identifies as a human? It wants a hand job. There we go. You know what I mean? Oh, yo.   The dog's got paws. Humans got hands. That is a different sexual assault. It doesn't have a thumb. It's got those long nails. Man, come on.   I'm serious. Wow. Yo, y'all playing this wrong.  Maybe that's what it is. Maybe they're projecting their own insecurity that they're not treating their dog to the best. Well, look at my hands, you.  Well, it doesn't have to be from you. Yeah. So I said, I'm hiring somebody that crazy. Yeah, you can hire some with a softer hand. You hire someone who's really strong to move a couch.  By the way, you can never say paws ever.  I'm saying, you can never say paws ever again.  That's what I'm saying.  I'm not mad at the progressiveness of it at all. Yeah. It's just, you know, I'm just not an animal. I got to be involved. You got to evolve into that. That's not something like you said, you don't want to just do that. That's nothing that you just want to do. I don't think you meant evolved. I don't know what that means. You said involved. I said that? Yeah. That's the most involved you can be. There's nothing more. Well, they always give each other a head and stuff like that. Dogs actually give each other a head. So, leave that alone.  That's cool. Dogs always eat each other out. They always give each other a head. That's cool. Let the wreck issue.  That's also a thing. You don't want all that licking, licking, licking. Yeah.  Yeah. I say that when I'm about to nub. I lick it real quick. To the dog? No, man. This guy. Great dog, bro.  This guy is wild. This guy is wild.  Yo, talking about coming, bro. Congratulations, man. Congratulations. Yeah, bro. Everybody. Applause. Look, we've got a lot of things to celebrate this episode. Wax is getting married. Wax is getting married. Wax is having a child. Wax got a child on the way. Bravo. Boy, at that. So that's how you know that I really wasn't a scumbag to these girls. I always told them the truth. First one, he's claiming from the beginning. That's beautiful, bro. I've seen it. SMC. Yeah. One, two, three, four. This is fifth. This is your fifth child. Second he's claimed. Got you.  You see my hands? There's no way. These hands are like for like... Jerking off dogs. No. Jerking off rhinos. No.   That's what I'm saying. You see these? This is like a rock-rollin'. The other kid's hands is like a Chihuahua hands. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was looking at the hands. I'm like, that's not my hands. That's not my nose. He was just like too skinny. He had like a meathead. What did the judge have to say about your... Exactly.  The skinny fingers lets me know it's not mine. That's not mine.  Yeah. It's a total difference. Anyway, well, I just want to congratulate you.  Salute to Carla. Carla, I know what you did. He's a trophy. She's everything. Yo, Carla got the sunshine, bro. Yeah. He must have been. I'll put something in the food. Something. Something happened. I'm telling you. She's a terrorist. I can't even... Tell us why. No, for real, why. Explain to us what love feels like to you. Yeah. I've never seen you like this since the white girl. Tell me. This guy is so crazy. I don't even know. Are you about to cry? No. Yeah, you almost got emotional, bro. No. No. No, no. No way. No, listen. I don't even know. You just see him talking to her. His eyes get like... I see it. Carla had him in a tight-ass button-up for the gender reveal. That's when I knew it was real. Yo, y'all did a gender reveal? Yo, he had a size-medium button-up.  He kept pulling it down. He kept pulling it down. It's nothing. Everything else was loose up. This is my arm.   It was Target. Target.   I'm only going rip up and playing around with the dog.  What do you mean by playing around with the dog? All of this has to be defined now. What? After playing around with the dog, he does like this?  Just make it show, man. When people say play around with the dog now, you have to really define that in 2020. Anyway, we're very proud of you. Another massive thing that we have to discuss today. And this is very important. Odell Beckham? We can talk about that too. I mean, there's some very big news. We can get to that. Well, Odell is interesting for one reason and one reason. Okay. Do you want to break down what the Odell thing is? I really don't know.  I think it was on the NoJumper podcast. I think there are these girls. It's a new slut podcast, lots of slut podcasts. And the latest one is that Adam, I guess, is producing is with those girls that were on his podcast before.  And athletes.  I think it's podcast. That's the name of the podcast? Yeah, Thoughts Next Door. And they just bring on, I guess, other thoughts. And they all talk about their thought adventures. So, I think on the podcast, there's this girl named Slim Danger. I guess it's a famous thought.  Thoughts on that. What's his race? Yeah. 44. 40. I don't know. Because a lot of people in Afghanistan, they be doing that, right? What are you talking about, bro? Dubai, same thing. No, man. That's what girls go over. Girls, it was a period where girls would go over to Dubai.  Yes, for a free trip to Dubai. Here's my thing with that whole situation. We don't even know if it's true. But everybody runs with it. You know why? Because I always say nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining.  They just want to run with the story.  Odell Beckham Jr. plays with the Cleveland Browns.  Well, the jerking off dog, things was different. It was. But we fact checked that. They watered it down. Yes, that came from him. He said that. Right, right, right, right. With Odell, I don't understand why people run with that and act like it's just automatically true. I said that in the group chat yesterday when Michaela was like, oh, so this is what Odell likes.  I'm like, why do you even believe her? Exactly. How about that?  Nobody's, nobody's texting that. But here's the thing. What if you texted that as a joke? Like, what if you're like, yo, I need to make sure you're real. I need to make sure you're down to do this.  And then this dumbass actually did it. But I'm not going to do that for a joke either, bro. I might do it.  Absolutely.  It's a medium. It's a difference. That I can understand. If Andrew Shoche says I'm having a shitty day and he sends me a picture of him on the phone, I get it.   Why didn't she come out?  Yo, there's another thing that people say that these athletes or celebrities are so over sexualized that they don't feel anything anymore. Nah, you don't buy that. He ain't been around that long. Odell ain't been around that long. I mean, he was in the LSU. He was a star. He played for the Giants. He played for the Browns.      Yeah. No, even when Biggie said that in a song, that was not one of the rap lyrics that influenced me. Wait, what did he say?  You know what I mean? I'm like, nah, that's not something I ever wanted to duplicate. A lot of things I wanted to duplicate in rap songs, that was never one of them.  Yeah.   And you love it. I don't like it. That's why I see it. That's right. We are too many stars. I don't like it. About you and Doodoo, bro. I understand that. That's why I know to put on somebody.   I cannot believe it. Mario.  As in rapping. It's protecting your nostrils. What's going up your nostrils? Another COVID test? Listen, I know exactly what I hate so much. That's why I know what to put on somebody. That's why I do it.  I can't do it for myself. I've walked in the bathroom with wax, wax going on one star, going on another star.  No, no, no. Did you flush the toilet? No, nothing.  I've seen it. It might be a smell. I'm probably like whoa. No, no.  I got nasty. Yo, y'all are wild, man. I didn't know what to say right now. The moral of the story is though, I want Odell Beckham Jr. and anybody else. Yo, start suing people, yo. If you feel like you got the time and the energy and the resources, some of you got to start filing some lawsuits from some of these people. I'm gonna tell you why. Slow them down.  But if they say allegedly, can't they get away with? I don't know. Allegedly don't always work. I've been doing radio for a long time. You can still say allegedly and still get hit up. Trust me, take it from somebody. I've been sued by things that I thought were totally legit. You know what I'm saying? Insiting my sources, everything else. But since I got a big platform and I might be spreading misinformation or spreading something that's not true just because I saw it somewhere, I'm the one that ends up getting sued. Well, you can always sue. That's the thing. You just can't win. You can't win. Sometimes dragging someone through a lawsuit will cost them so much money. Oh, I love it. I love it. The litigation alone is going to cost them so much money. They're like, man, I don't want nothing to do with this. My bad. Blah, blah, blah. Listen, I got three drawn up right now. Really? Who's getting hit up? I mean, I've had it for a while. I'm just like, you know what? I'm just waiting to push the button. That's all. I got three ready to fly right now. How big are we talking? What do you mean? Money-wise. Nothing.  Wait, but why? You just trying to be petty? Yes. I love it.   I love it. Yes. Now, one person I probably could get money out of, one individual. But you know, that's a whole other story. But that's the moral of the story. Start showing these motherfuckers. Stop letting them get on podcasts and YouTube and using you as clickbait. Because that's all they're literally doing. It's all content. Okay.    Then it's boom. Like, yo, that's super head air. That was one time. Yeah. One time.   Why is that? I don't have that fascination. We as human beings, like caller daddy was the most popular podcast. It still is. Is it? Yeah. That should still be like top three. Boom. There was tons of these podcasts. There was a podcast.  We've done it before.  Shout out to Christina Corrine. But what is the fascination with people just listening to girls talking about getting fucked? It's human nature. Right? But if there's porn that exists right there, you're already on your phone or computer. But why do we value the talking over the action? We could see exactly what they're talking about. For me, honestly, it's because you learn things. If you're a man and women are really having conversations about what stimulates them sexually and what they like to do in the bedroom, what they don't like, it's kind of like a cheat code. Well, that's the thing about, like, Christina, I think Corrine's, right, is theirs was focused more almost like had educational value. I think you also see how horrible decisions there's like this education. Slut the horrible decisions. Shout out to the girls. Black Effect Podcast Network. I Heart Radio. Get it up, bro. Go ahead.  I've been trying to big you up for the whole fucking... We got a whole podcast. Don't push back on me. What minute we on, Alex? What minute are we on? 30.  We might have to get to it this. That's what I'm saying, bro. Let's put our paws on this. But... Don't be like that, show. As you never know. You know that picture of the dogs playing poker? Ooh. They're playing poker on the table. Tables turn. Always. What does this mean? What are we saying? Nothing. I'm going with it, guys. I feel like the energy's right there. I don't know. The vision of the dogs playing poker at the table, that's all. I see the image. But that table, those dogs are playing poker, is that? Yeah. That table always turns. You mean it could turn on me? Absolutely. So if I start jerking off dogs, then people can make fun of me. They'll make fun of you. Absolutely. So I gotta make sure... Every dog has its day. We always talk about that in terms of success. But that should be in terms of when you're going through something as well. So that you should also think, wow, people could be poking the fun at you. It's only a matter of time. That's true. It happens all the freaking time. So I think maybe the lesson here is work diligently towards not whacking off dogs.  You know what I mean? So I got you. So we're just going to act like we did. If the shoe was on the other paw. Do that. If the shoe was on the other paw, they would be over there dogging us. Right, right, right. No, no. But I would be okay with that. Me too. I think that's the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this is jokes. This is what we do. This is jokes. Right, right.  We go low. When they go low, literally low. Yeah. We go high. We go high. Yeah, you go. But what if I like low? I enjoy the trenches. Well, just watch where that's come. K9 Cum is coming when you're down there. Easy, easy. That they go low, we go high.  Low is fun. She's overrated. I need you to go high. I need you to have your networks and all this stuff. And I just want to be out there shooting. I might be shoot, baby. Don't they just want to be killers? Just jack me, dawg. Oh my God. It's content, though. It's content. 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I need everybody out there to know that it's two type of people in this world you're going to listen to. You're going to listen to the people who've never done it, try to tell you how to do it. Or you're going to listen to the people who are doing it, tell you how you can get it done. And even if I tell you, it still may not happen for you because you're not me. And that's not a diss. You know what I'm saying? That's just the truth to the matter. Look at everybody's circumstances. Everybody's circumstances. But in and everything. Absolutely. How to deal with that. The ingredients. Absolutely. So it's just like y'all to sit back and just observe the landscape of what was going on out here in the culture, the podcast world. I looked at what Bill Simmons was doing with Derringa. You know what I'm saying? I looked at what Gimlet was doing. You know what I mean? I looked at what Anchor was doing. I look at all of these different networks.   How long have you been doing Brain It Is? Five, six years. Five, six years. So I think I was owner with Loudspeaker for like, Bordos. Right. Maybe. You know what I'm saying? Just gave Chris his 10% back last year. Because I knew what I was about to do. So to my god, Chris Monroe loved Chris. What I gave him back is 10% last year. But Chris, but to that note. Chris is a person who was in on the network thing early. He was in the network thing early. Rest in peace to Combat Jack. I thought you were going to say rest in peace to Chris. No, man. Rest in peace to Combat Jack to lose to Chris. Because he might kill himself when he hears about this. No, man, Chris has been in cahoots the whole way. Like this is going down. Right. But my point is. But Chris is involved? No. But there is a situation. LSN is going to be fine. Right. But my point is I've been sitting back watching what LSN has been doing for years. LSN grew a lot of name brand recognition. Absolutely. In this podcast space. There was a time. Huge podcast. Let me see. Was that three years ago when these companies started to really want to partner with these podcasts? Loudspeaker was one of the number ones. Whether it was Luminary, whether it was Endeavor.  You know what I mean?  Just like nah, we're going to stay doing what we're doing for a while longer.  You observe the game from what's missing in a podcast network. And also what's just missing in the podcast space. You look around. You see all of these different podcasts, especially podcasts that have black hosts, they're just kind of like everywhere. And that's cool. That's great. But what if we can all partner together and have a home? You know what I'm saying? And we can have a home to where we can utilize each other's resources on both ends to just make whatever it is we're doing even bigger. Yeah. You know?  I am not just the face of the Black Effect podcast network. I'm a 50% owner of the Black Effect podcast network. Me and I Heart Radio have a partnership. Right. You know what I mean? Yes. So I don't know what to tell y'all other than God bless. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not that type of person. Like if I hear certain people saying certain things. Like I'm not the type to just jump out there and tell you what I'm about to do. I'd rather show you. I'd rather show improve through actions and deeds. Right. Then all of that words and lip service. I can get on the podcast and you know, inflect my voice and throw my words and let veins come out of my neck and tell you about what I want to do. I'd rather do it. Yeah. That's better, right? Well, yeah, I think so. Yeah. Because anybody can say it. Anybody can say it. But are you doing it? Execution is tough. Execution separates you from 99% of the people. Everybody got ideas. A few people got good ideas. And even fewer people actually do them. Got to be a finisher. And you can have great ideas and not have no way to execute them. Yeah. I can't find a partner to execute. For me, I Heart is the perfect partner because I've been with I Heart Radio for 10 years. Right. They trust me. I trust them. They're the leaders in the audio space. Right. You know what I'm saying? Now they're in the podcast business. Right. It seems like a good partnership. It makes perfect sense. Yeah.  They're like, oh, but you're Mr. Independent.  And obviously I do. I love independence. The whole point of independence, at least for me and the platform that I've tried to like, at least, you know, give other comics so they can go out there with their content is to gain enough leverage so that if you want to do a deal with a network, you get your worth. Yes. That is the importance for me about independence. So I don't have to do any deal with anybody. And if they do want to do a deal with me, I can make sure that that deal reflects terms that are beneficial for both of us.  Absolutely. That is the point. Absolutely.  If there are people out there that want to pay us for stuff, great, pay us, but you're not going to own me. That's why you license your content. Like, I don't know why people are asking like... Well, explain licensing to people out. Licensing is when you own your content and somebody pays you to distribute your content. Right. So they don't own you and what you do. No. They simply own the rights to your content for a specific amount of time. Absolutely. And let's say you do a two-year licensing deal. Yeah. Right?  You, that company might own that content under that two-year window. And then afterwards you get it. Everything before, everything after that's yours. You know what I mean? And you might have licensed it for a freaking few million dollars a year. Yep.  All somebody wanted was your audio. Our vice versa. Somebody just wanted your video. You know what I mean? Like, it's so many different ways to finesse this content space. And I'm sorry for those who haven't figured it out. And boy, I'm going to tell you something. Motherfuckers on Twitter is so crazy. People literally were sending me my trademark for Black Effect.    I'm serious.   I promise you, whatever you're on, I'm 10 steps ahead of you. I've thought about it already. So we can either think about it together and figure it out together. I'm going to go do what I've been doing, which is maneuvering with me and my people. And I'm happy to have the Black Effect Podcast Network. There are a lot of great partners on the Black Effect Podcast Network. These are podcasts that don't have to partner. You understand what I'm saying? Drinks Champs don't have to partner? You know what I mean? 85 South Show don't have to partner. And it's a partnership. I'll let them tell their own stories, but all I'm simply saying is they don't have to do that. That's the thing I liked about it, because when you hit me initially, you said you were talking to me about this idea and everything going on. And you were like, yeah, you should start something, blah, blah, blah, same thing. I was like, I don't want to own anybody because I've been in negotiations and stuff with networks and prior. And what their goal is is essentially to restrict your freedom to create outside of their box.  But you are in a very different situation.  So now you could tell whatever network you're negotiating with. I'm very fortunate to be in a similar situation, not as big as you, but still I have a career. No, Andrew, you're cooking. Knock it off. Andrew's cooking. We're in Andrew Schultz's studio right now. It's not bad. In Brooklyn, Andrew Schultz got his own studio. And one point, how many YouTube subscribers? I think we had like 1.4 now. 1.4 million YouTube subscribers. That's just on my personal account. That's just on his personal account. That's on Andrew Schultz's page. All right. Okay. One thing I know for sure, I will never sit in a room and say, if I don't take this, I don't know if Andrew will be okay. All right. Andrew. I'm hitting Andrew. Go Andrew. Can I get something? All right. We're both doing well. Yes, thank God. I think we're both doing well. Thank God. Thank God to make cool decisions. And I think one of the cool things I see about it is, especially with your deal, and what you were saying to me is, you're like, I'm not owning anybody. I go, what do you mean? He goes, I'm partnering with people. Partnering. And I don't want to give again the details of your relationship with these people or these different podcasts. But the idea was, and this is something that I always thought was really cool. If I was ever going to do some sort of business within the space, it's how do I provide value for you?  Wow. And so few people want to do it, but the people that do do it, I think you have good karma that comes your way. I think that if you look at a company like I Heart Radio, I mean, just use me for an example. I've been there for 10 years. I feel like I'm free. So here's the other thing. You have built enough leverage within that company where they got to keep you happy.  They got to make sure you are happy. I think we got to keep each other happy. They got to keep you happy. Let me put it that way. They got to keep you happy.   Never been happy. I've never not been happy though. Because they know, but now here's the thing. You've been at radio stations prior where you did not build up that leverage. I've never worked at a radio station this long ever in my life. And I never, ever. I think that's what happens when you build up enough for leverage where all of a sudden they understand their success is dependent on you. No, I think... Well, here's the thing. I don't ever want to get to that point because I feel like this, right? Our success is dependent on each other. And I think sometimes we miss that when we partner with these corporations. Sometimes we get into these corporate buildings and we think it's all about us. Look what I did for you and look what I did for you. I'm like, these people over here are putting a lot of marketing dollars behind you too. Right. You know what I'm saying?  You didn't have access to these multi-millions of people that's on our platform. So it's a fair... It's a transactional thing. Yeah. You want to be in that... You want to be in that relationship with them. Yes, 100%. It's a transactional thing. And I think that's what I like about the deal. And again, I don't want to give it too much, but what I like about it is a lot of times there are these podcast networks, right? Mm-hmm. And as far as I can see, they don't offer any value to the podcast outside of just being on the network. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And my understanding from what you've explained to me, correct me if I'm wrong, is the iHeart PR machine is involved... Absolutely. ...in promoting these podcasts. So that's important, right? Like, we know that from not only just being brands and entities. That's what you need. You know what I mean? Like, listen, we all have the blessings of being on certain platforms or creating our own platforms. Right. We're able to market and promote ourselves. Right. But come on, let's not act like it's the difference when the machine gets burned. It depends on the machine, but yeah. It depends on the machine. Absolutely. 100%. If the machine is giving you billboards and, you know, placements on phone booths and TV commercial knowledge, then it's worth it. Yeah. You know what I mean? In the case of iHeart, we've got 800-plus radio stations throughout the country. Right. That's going to be running commercials for your podcast. Right.  Yeah, it could definitely, definitely help. And there is the first time I'm like, oh, this is valuable. That makes sense? Yeah, yeah. And trust me, man, I'm not going to say too much, but you know, yeah, I've seen the landscape. You know what I'm seeing? I've seen what other people were doing, you know? And I saw value in saying, no, iHeart is absolutely the best place.  You can definitely go get the huge, huge bag somewhere else. But, yeah, they're going to want to own everything. Well, that's what comes with the bag.  You don't get the bag and then you don't get it.  And you get the leverage. Not just Rogan. Who else? Who else? Kylinard. Who else? Who else? Who else? Tell him that. Tell him that. Who else got that? Who else got that? Who else? I'm just saying, no, it's something to that, but you know, you said something earlier that I wanted to talk about, man. You talked about a wharf, right? Yes. If we're being honest, there's no cooperation. There's no entity that can truly pay you what you're worth. Because if they paid you what you're worth, they'd go broke. Yeah, they'd go broke. What NBA team could literally pay LeBron James what he's worth? It was worth a billion dollars a year to a franchise, probably. Probably more. When LeBron left Cleveland, the economy of this city dropped down. That's why they have to have a max 300 million for whatever years or whatever it is. They were ready for the Wuhan virus.  Everybody just at home sat in the press.  People was already wearing masks. The Hodges sadness. The Hodges. After LeBron left, they wanted to go. There was already, no! The Brains weren't wearing the bags. Remember the Cleveland Brains just the way the bags were? They didn't win. Yes, 100%. So I'm telling you, that was the first Chinese virus. Oh, man.  You get what you negotiate. Say that again. That's important. That's very important. You don't get what you deserve. You don't get what you negotiate. Nobody's going to give you anything. Correct. You have to approach these situations with a plan already and say, this is what you want. If the said person is not able to execute, then you move on to find somebody who can execute your plan.  And I'll tell you why. Simply because these companies could never pay us what we're worth. So you can look at all of these different analytics and say, man, I should be getting 250 million dollars. You can say that. What they'll look at you like. Then how can I make money off of you? Yeah, it's literally everybody wants to pay the least amount of money they can so that they can profit everything that comes after it. And by the way, you're right. That's it. That's the goal of any cooperation. Right. I want to, I think I can make. I think Lenard can make $100 million a year. Let's just throw it out where that ran out. If we offer him 50, that means we get to keep $50 million a year. Now, Lenard might come back and go, I know I can make $100 million a year. I'll give you 10. It's 90 million. You keep 10. They might go, you know what? That's worth it. I'll do my 90-10 split. And now you know they're getting 10% over on you, but you get the security of that 90 million.    You don't know what people are into, bro.   This is what it is. I get what you're saying. Hey, man. You want this 90%? You want this 90% or not?  All you can do as an entity is negotiate what's fair. Exactly.  But they're gonna, if they pay you what you're worth, they're not gonna make any money. So the nature of the business is they have to exploit. The nature of capitalism is exploitation. Say whatever it is, it is.  That's what it is. You have to decide what your number at exploitation is.  What's the incentives? Yes. Boom. So when we were doing... What's the other way we can make money? Nah, we're talking. So when we were doing the MTV stuff and we already had these conversations, this was both your same thinking as well, we weren't worried about the overall deal that they were paying us, which was okay money. It wasn't life-changing because we're like, put me in front of the people.  Absolutely. So if you're doing a deal, if you're a young podcast going on your platform, be like, whoa, there might be way more ears and eyes for me. I'm gonna come up. If I'm doing a deal with some company, I'm thinking about what's the multiplier. Okay, you pay me this. I know I'm worth more, but you're gonna pay me this. I'm gonna make sure I get my freedom, but you might be a three-time multiplier.  How can you build around it? And let's just say you do that for two years. Now you done used this partnership to help you get here. Now somebody, you might just want to get the bag after that. Somebody might just want to come. And you're probably already... I know you're gonna make money, but then somebody else might just come in with the bag and say, yo, let me get that for such and such amount. But now you got a whole different leverage because you got a whole different type of proof of concept. You know what I'm saying? Leverage is everything, bro. It's very interesting how you don't understand that until you own, though. Real quick, but I want to get on that. But why do you think they don't release the numbers for shows on a lot of these TV streaming networks or even why I think Spotify doesn't release the numbers? What do you mean? What numbers? They don't say exactly what something hit. I think Netflix doesn't release their numbers. You can get it, though. Can you? Yeah, yeah. We can't probably as the public, general public. But if you're in the private... Yeah, if you're in the building, absolutely. I'm just saying that'd be a great tactic on the company side. I won't tell them how well they're doing. And then they can't use that against us when it comes to negotiation. Well, that's what you got to do your own research. That's what you have agents for. That's what you have lawyers for. That's what you have a manager for. You got to have the right team around you. I'm not sitting here acting like I got it all figured out. You know what I mean? But the people that I've studied in my life are the JZs, the Bob Johnsons, the Robert Smiths. You know what I'm saying? I've studied and I've tried to model my game after. You know what I mean? But it's funny when you don't... Talk about the ownership. Yeah, everything we're talking about now, you don't realize until you own something. When you get in these buildings and you're a partner, like I've been a partner with iHeart for a while, just do national syndication.  Like I'm my own production company. See the God world. But producing my own shows and stuff, you start to realize all of these line items. You start to see where the money goes. You start to see why certain things are spent, why certain talent gets a certain amount of money. And these executives will tell you straight up, like, yo, we can't afford to go over this number. That's why they have this thing called best and final. Yeah. Because you've pushed them to the... You know what I'm saying? You've pushed me. We can't, man. We just simply can't. It's not worth our while to do it. Like it's not worth anybody's while to do it. And that's just something you know when you are under the hood. Yeah. When you know it's like, a lot of people don't realize this because they maybe might be in like their first few negotiations or they don't even really understand like the ramifications of a negotiation. But something I always consider is precedent, right? When you do a new deal with a company, especially a big company, the deal points that you make, set a precedent for other people. Absolutely. And they can't afford to do that with everybody. Exactly. Because once again, like I said, I can tell you how it's done, but you might not get it done because you might not mean it. Because you're not you. Because you're not... You don't have all that leverage. So you know what you gotta do? Build up your leverage. Absolutely. But when I go into these negotiations and I've been very like open, like everything that I do, my model, my blueprint on everything, I'm given to comics. I want them to do it. I want them to build up enough leverage where they can get deals that are more fair, right? They can make more money. I want that. I think a more equitable relationship with media is better for everybody in entertainment, right? But I know when I'm going into a company with a deal and I'm sure you know you're going into a company with a deal, you know that the deal points you make are setting the standard for the creators that are following you. So when someone goes up, now they can ask for 50%. That's what... They can ask for these things, ownership when they couldn't have done it in the past. Pro tip. You know when you signed the great deal? When they make you sign an NDA about it.  Run the clip! I'm just saying. When you... But I'm just... That's what it is. And also too, when it comes to like the joint venture thing, you know, don't listen to people when they say, you know, just because you can't partner with corporations because you don't own anything.  Don't let people make you believe that if you're not a 100% owner, then you're not an owner. That's not true.  So, y'all don't respect Rihanna's Fenty deal with LVMH? Right. Like, you don't respect when Rockefeller and Def Jam was 50-50, joint venture partners. You didn't respect Puff when he was with Bad Boy. You don't respect Puff in his 50-50 deal with this disparate company that puts out Sorak and the daddy on the couch. Like, what are we saying? It's a very common... What are we saying when we say this? Yeah, it's a very common way of doing business. It's THE most common way. It is, because most people...  They use their fame, they use their leverage, and they understand the value of that. When George Clooney puts himself in front of a tequila or an espresso, he knows, motherfucker, I don't got to put up a penny. I'm George Clooney.  I love Casamigos. Never heard of it till George Clooney started pushing. Boom. I love Sorak. Never heard of it till he started pushing it. Let's be very real. Some people here, maybe they can tell the difference. Most of us cannot tell the difference between alcohol. We can give pushback in terms of what it is, but for the most part, alcohol pretty much tastes the same. Like, vodka tastes the same as other vodkas. You know, whiskeys, more or less the same as more other whiskeys. Why do you think so many famous people are in alcohol business? Because it's all about brand. Of course, Diddy can make vodka hot, because Diddy's hot, so he can make you drink the same tasting shit as something else that doesn't have Diddy on it. You mad at Michael Jordan for doing Jordan brand with Nike?  Yo, because think of now, because think about this, what they don't understand. It's like the brand needs awareness. The awareness doesn't need money. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't. But the awareness is like, hold on, if you need awareness, you put up the money, now we have a company. Now, you both have limitations in terms of what you can do, because now you have a partner. Just like anything else, if you're a partner in a restaurant, you've got limitations in terms of what you can do. This is partnering in business. Fenty Beauty is a $3 billion company. And I think what, four years, five years, that doesn't happen without reality. It doesn't happen without Rihanna's cultural cashing. And it doesn't happen without the LVMH machine. Yes. Simple as that. That's how you get a company to size and to scale fast. Now, is the goal ultimate ownership? Yeah. Because eventually, at some point in my life, you want to be the person that's the financer. If that's your thing. Charlotte, even if it's ultimate ownership, everybody I do business with, it's regularly employed by me as a partner in my business. Absolutely. Literally. A percentage owner of my business. 100%. Okay. From Alex, Aakash Mark, whatever it is, everybody owns a percent.  So even then, you're giving up pieces. Nobody is 100% owner of everything, of anything massive. Yes. Yeah. Everybody is not, I mean, I'm sure that there are, but most people have investors.  Absolutely. And now the people are owners of part of the company. This is a very normal thing. It's so normal.  Right? Which you earn by showing and proving that you're already a great creative. So I don't need you for that. But if you can bring it, if you can bring some more creative juices over it, let's do it. And other than that, all I want is the leverage to empower the people that I want to empower, to partner with the people that I want to partner with, with no hesitation. That's the problem that I saw at other companies. Other companies, they want to do a lot of red tape. You know what I'm saying? Like if I say, y'all, I want horrible decisions. Well, you know, what are they doing now? What's the analytics? What do they bring to take? I ain't got time for all of that. You know what I'm saying? I want to be able to say, I want horrible decisions. Let's get them. Let's make a deal. Let's partner. You want them to trust your decision. Listen, I launched with 18 podcast. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? As a matter of fact, let me shout out some of these. Let's go. Some of these great people. Listen, man, I just want to salute, you know, leave that like that. I like that. I want to salute, you know, just all my partners with the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio, man. First of all, salute to the legendary the culture shifting. They definitely didn't need a partner in no way shape or form, but they decided it was something they wanted to do. N-O-R-E-N-D-J-F-N with Drink Champs. Appreciate y'all so much. One that I'm very excited about because the network reflects a lot of my interest, right? So it reflects hip hop, of course. It reflects comedy. You know what I mean? It reflects sports. It reflects mental health and mindfulness. You know what I mean? It reflects politics and social justice. So on the sports, all the smoke with Matt Barnes. You know what I mean? They definitely didn't need a partner. Great. They could call their own shops any way they wanted to. So salute to them. Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. Horrible decisions. Horrible decisions, Mandy and Weezy. They been rocking with Loudspeaker for a minute, you know? And yeah, it's just one of those things. Like, I feel like it's their time. Like, it's really just time for them to take us to the next level. Yeah, man. Like, why are we not talking about horrible decisions?  You know what I mean?  No, that's what it takes.  How bad do you want it? But that's not what... How bad do you want it, bro?  They proud. No, no, no.  That's how it started.   Yo, I mean... They do? Yeah, I think so. I think they got to take it next level. I think you got to get defecated on. Their shows are wild, though. I've been to their live shows. It's great. It's great. So good. What's the Matrix shit? Dominatrix. There you go.  Matrix. But thank you for being my partners. Dropping gyms with Debbie Brown. My sister Debbie Brown. Debbie is in the Mindfulness Race. That's a great name for her podcast. It's amazing.  That's it. She's into mental health and mindfulness. Me and Dev have been rocking with each other for 13, 14, 15 years now. We're not Dev. Dev is a person that used to... When I first met her, it was Chuck Taylor's and her telling me about the dopest new West Coast hip hop. Right. Now it's her telling me about Deepak Chopra and mindfulness and Stones and whatnot. You know, got me hugging trees. Dev got you. What's interesting with Dev, Dev introduced me to this next person who I love. He's my partner.  Glasses Malone. I love glasses, bro. Launching the No Sealings podcast with Glasses Malone. I love. The West Coast has been severely, severely undeserved when it comes to the hip hop podcast. You know what I'm saying? You look at the East Coast. East Coast got Drink Champs. East Coast got, you know, Joe Budden. East Coast got Rap Radar. Just no jumper? Oh, no, that's what you said? Yeah. I didn't know that. I'm talking about black. Say again? I'm talking about black. What? What'd you say, bro? Say black like that one more time. That's what the Twitter comments for me are always. The YouTube comments are, show, say black like that with a capital B. Unlike how he says that. But no, No Sealings by Glasses Malone. He's my partner. And another one, man. Gangsta Chronicles, man. Gangsta Chronicles with my man, MC8. Okay. James McDonald. All right. And Norman Steele. Okay. Those are my partners. I feel like they're going to really, really make a lot of noise. They're already making a lot of noise. I actually enjoy that podcast. I used to watch their podcast on YouTube. That's why I wanted to partner with them. But also in the sports world, man, Steven Smith Sr. Yeah. You know, he's got a podcast on the world called Cut To It. That's actually available right now. What do you mean, Steve Smith, the wide receiver? Steve Smith, the wide receiver used to be for the Carolina Panthers. Come on, man. This is Baltimore Ravens as well.  Absolutely. I'll listen to that. That's great. Absolutely. You can go check Cut To It out right now. Yeah. In the mental health mind from this space, Michelle Williams. Yes, that Michelle Williams from Destiny's Child. She has a podcast called Checking In. Me and Michelle have been friends for, man, Lord have mercy. She told me, she was just literally saying this the other day.  You know what I mean? So it's good to be in business with her, partnering with her. Somebody who I find extremely funny, Flame Monroe. Oh yeah. Shout out to Flame, brother. Flame has a podcast. She's been on this podcast? Yes. And she has a podcast on the Black Effect Network called Laugh and Learn, Executive Produce by my sister Tiffany Hattish. Okay. So y'all can check that out. As far as the politics and social justice, I got Queen Tameka Mallory and My Son. They got their politicians Crete politicians. Oh wow. Yeah. Hot happy mess. Not hot. Well, I'm gonna get the hot happy mess. Hello, somebody with Senator Nina Turner. Whoa. Yeah. And a straight shot no chaser with Tesla and Fagaro. You know, so the social justice political aspect is covered. I'm happy that they partnered with me. Ebony Kay Williams who will handle all the lost stuff with holding court. Ebony's been a guest on the Brilliant Nittiest Podcast and the Breakfast Club several times. Hot happy mess with Zorie Hall. You know, Zorie's family. Zorie's family. Zorie, man. You know, when I heard that she was out shopping a podcast, we just so happened to be at the same agency. So I'm like, yeah. Shout out to Zorie. Yo, Zorie, you still owe us money for the RV for Burning Man. That's why I let you know. What happened? She just never paid us. She was like, I'll crash with you. We're like, all right, cool. But we didn't think it was like real crash. How much do you owe you? Huh? How much do you owe you? How much do you owe us, Al? I don't know. I don't know. A couple grand. Damn. We'll take it out of your paycheck. You might have to take that out your ad revenue. Yeah. I got a first couple brands coming to me. All right. Who am I missing? Oh, Bonon Matiba. Oh, big time. Shout out to South Africa. What's happening? Zuzella or whatever. Bonon. What's that shit? What's that thing? Zuzella or whatever. Remember that instrument that they were doing during the World Cup? I don't know what they're barely talking about. Y'all remember that? No. I don't know what you're talking about. It's just like At football games? Yeah. We're doing it at the World Cup. No. Stop looking at me like I said racist things, bruh. Y'all are the ones that are angry at me. I know these things. I know these things. What about your people? What about your culture? I don't know. I'm just making sure. Why don't I teach y'all about black shit? When you hear Andrew say something you look around everybody else and say, should I be offended? I don't know. I don't know what's happening. Vuvuzella, bruh. Bonon's podcast is untitled but she'll have a title for it soon but I'm happy to be partnering with her because she definitely don't need a partner. Bonon is an international superstar. Okay. The Vuvuzella. What is that? Plastic horn. About 65 centimeters long. That's two feet. Maybe that should be the name of our podcast. This should be called Vuvuzella. Posted by Bonon Matiba. Exactly. Which produces a loud monotone note. Typically a bead mine.  Everybody knows about Vuvuzella.  I don't even know what a Vuvuzella is, bruh. I'm excited about this one too. On the Kuduhorn Vuvuzella was used to summon distant villagers to attend community gatherings. It's not racist, Andrew. You prove the point. It's not racist. It's not racist. We get it, Andrew. It's fine. It's not racist. It wasn't racist. Vuvuzella is commonly used in football matches in South Africa. Africa. South Africa. In case y'all wanted to know. It's become a symbol of South Africa in football as the stadiums are filled with it's sound. Okay. There you go. Vuvuzella. Learn something. A.J. and Tam Bam. A.J. is from Charleston, South Carolina. That was close, bruh. That could have been bad. You clean it up nice. A.J. is from Charleston, South Carolina. That's a lifelong friend. Taylor's going to be executive producing a podcast too. Really? Oh, yeah. Taylor works for the Blackfoot. Oh, it's just this thing called Jobs. All right. Two more. Go. We get it, bruh. You got a lot of podcasts. Jeff Hilarious. Oh, you got Jeff. Jeff Hilarious. Her beautiful problematic self. She has a podcast called Carefully Reckless. I know this is a good sign because I just saw it. I just got to send her album artwork even though she been had it because we've been working on this for a long time. Yeah. And last but certainly not least, man. Man, three brothers that I am such like literal fans of. Like I really love what these brothers do individually. I love what they do collectively. These brothers definitely did not need no partner in any way, shape or form. And trust me, it wasn't easy. All right. It wasn't easy. But I get it. And I'm so happy that they decided to partner, man. 85 South show. Carlos Miller. I love those guys. DC, Young Fly, Chico Bean, Snoop to my guy Chad, man.  So yes, we're launching with 18 Podcasts. And we got some other specialty podcasts for like specialty ones. Tell me about these. This is actually a really good idea. I'm surprised people haven't done this in a while. That's why we're going to show people how to do it. So what's going to happen is these artists are going to come out and these artists, when they put out their albums, they may not want to run around and do the radio circuit. You know what I mean? So do a four to five podcast series talking about your album. Talk about it at length. You don't have to do it in between. Same thing with actors. You know what I mean? They got movies coming out. They can do the same thing. I got two lined up right now that I'm going to let those press releases come out later. No, they'll be out real soon.  You know what I mean? I'm going to shoot a little bit. That's a little bit of it. That's it. You didn't even work, bro. That's a little bit of it. But please, thank y'all. Black Effect Podcast Network. I hope we didn't oversell it. We just here to do the work. And you know, I want this to be to the audio business what BET was to television in the 90s. You know what I mean? I want it to be a place where you can come and get entertained, educated and enlightened.  You know? So salute to all my partners in the Black Effect Podcast Network. All the podcasts that we partnered with and I Heart Radio, of course. 50-50 Joint Venture. If you don't know what a Joint Venture is, go Google it. You know what I mean? If you don't believe it's a Joint Venture then just sit back in five years. You know? We on the Forbes list. Ooh! That's all I'm saying. Ooh! That was good.  I would. But you do to celebrate. In South Africa. It's an African thing. You guys probably wouldn't know anything about it. What do we want? What do we got, Taylor? What are we doing, Taylor? Hey! There's some stuff from what you're not going to care about. Oh, what we got? What we going to not care about next week? Shit we won't care about next week. What we got? Well...   We forgot all about that.  Positively brilliant was learning a new way to care about your animals. And a new... Very true. Yeah, like... Very true. Stopping the limitations of affection with your animals. And I thought that that was absolutely, positively brilliant. Based off perspective, it could be either one.  Thank God I didn't. Literally, that is the beginning. So now retrofit that. We're good. We did positively brilliant.  Okay. So you all want to talk about the Dr. J's wife, two million a month temporary spas... I can't say the word. Spousal support. Spousal support. Thank you. I was looking at that all wrong when I first saw it. Okay. I was... And a listener actually, I can't remember her name. I think her name was Sandra. She called the breakfast club and she said, we're looking at this with regular eyes. So it's... And we are. Okay. I want to hear it. When we look at the two million dollars a month. Ouch. We're not looking at it from the perspective of a woman who was married to a man who's worth a billion plus. Can I say something? Yes, please. Is it possible that the same thing that we were saying earlier applies? You don't get what you're worth. You get what you're worth. You negotiate. Yeah, man. Yeah. Maybe two million a month to a billionaire isn't that bad.  Bodies are buried. And she threw out a body already. I think she's just dangling it. What'd she say? Not really a body, but she threw out a little information. Yeah, I was a little... I didn't understand. I mean, listen, I don't know. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Here's the thing with that too though. There was only certain things on the list. I'm not mad that she wants those things. I just want to know why. I think you're absurd. You can't ask... $900,000 in entertainment?  Nothing. There's $900,000... $900,000 a month in entertainment? No, no, no, no. How? The most hilarious one was... Where is it? $125,000 a month in charity. Charity! You can't ask someone to give you money to give money. Somebody else. Your charity. How do you feel good about that? Seriously, how do you feel good about that? Who gets that blessing? Who does the universe reward if I give you $125,000 to give away? And you're already getting $2,000,000 a month. Wow. Is that not enough to give away for charity? Maybe if you cut your entertainment bill to a reasonable $50,000 a month. I mean, that's hilarious. You would need $900,000 for entertainment, only $125,000 for charity.  And then $135,000 for clothes? Yeah, you don't need to do laundry yet. You should be throwing away everything you wear for $135,000 a month. Yeah, it seems like twice. Nah, that's crazy. And then look, this is the funny part. Think about it. Really look at this guy. Yeah. $900,000 in entertainment, $60,000 in education, $125,000 in charitable, only $100,000 a month in mortgage. Why do you have a mortgage? Maybe if you didn't spend $900,000 in entertainment, you wouldn't have a mortgage. Why do you have a mortgage? Is there a reason for a mortgage? Why do you... Yo, come on, man. Look at the cell phone, though. The email. What is email? So what is this? This is alimony? I don't know what the fuck... By the way, this is just in the interim.  This is robbery. This is robbery. This is a placeholder. This is robbery. Nah, this is crazy, man. You only ask when she's like this if you don't... What? Too what? If you did fingers and booty holes? Yeah. She must have gotten on to take... I'm not saying that to happen. I don't want nobody to sit here and say, I'm saying that to happen. I'm just saying to beat this ball... You gotta have some leverage, bro. You got a lot of leverage, bro. You got a lot of leverage. Absolutely.  You really gotta decide, man. That's a wild thing. You really gotta decide. You let your wife do that. But that's why I was talking about it. What? That's why I was talking about it.  Ain't no leverage? Interesting. Interesting. Wow. Interesting. What if she said she... What if she said...  What's that? You try to put your finger up in my butt.   It's probably not gonna go in there. It's probably not gonna go in there. What do you mean it's not gonna go in there? What if it just goes in there super smooth? Just like... What if it's just mac and cheese just sliding the spoon in? What if that's... What if that's how easy that is? Number one, you're gonna have to lube something up. You're gonna feel something being lubed up down there. What if she pre-lubes, dude? You don't know. You are turning on some dogs right now, right now. There's people listening to this with their dogs right now and it's just pink penis is just getting hard.  My God. She's Jesus Christ. Shit, girl.  Come on, bro.   What if she goes like this? What if she makes a little beak, like a bird beak and then just goes in like that? She don't even want me to... What if she knew the beak and just peck at it? Yeah, just a little woodpecker. Like little seas. She's telling you she don't even care for it. She don't even want that for it.  Alex, let's see what a Voo-Voo Zella looks like. Let's go! Let's learn today, guys. Let's just learn. That's what I'm talking about.  He spelled it right. Yeah, that's it. At least someone's black around here. At least someone knows. Man, he just started spelling it in the sound Spanish. What?  That could go up in an anus, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd go right up in an anus, dawg. Voo-Voo Zella. Voo-Voo Zella and listen to the sound of it. The sound sounds like flatulence. It sounds like flatulence. It does. What else can it? The Canelo and... Golden Boy. I don't know his name. I don't understand what's going on with this man. I gotta talk to Akin Barak about this. I don't know what the fuck's going on. Because he's not suing for past money. He's suing for money that he didn't make in 2020.  Ah, interesting. I think for what I read. I couldn't be reading this all wrong. Did you notice he's bringing in his podcast? I don't know. But I thought I read something like that. Well, they signed that crazy contract with DeZone. 360 million? 360 million. That's to fight in order to get it, I guess. Yes. And they're probably not doing the fights because there's no people in the stands. And that affects the gate. And that affects how much Golden Boy could make. Oh, yeah. That's my assumption. Yeah. And now... That pay-per-view though. That's... But I guess Golden Boy is like, yo, we just put it all in a pot. Why am I gonna give away $8 million?  We got him signed. That's the other thing. When you're signed, you're owned. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah.  He took the bag though. He took the bag. And that's why I didn't get it.  Because you're not looking at your freedom in front of you. That's why you got to respect Money Mayweather. See what you got? That motherfucker. He figured out business. You know what he did? He bought himself out of his contract with Bob Aram for, I forget exactly how much money. He bought himself, paid his own cash. I imagine his own, maybe it was his business partners, but still. And then he went on and made a billion dollars or $850 million. He said on Drink Champs, your podcast on the Black Connect Network. I thought Al Haim was his guy. Al Haim has always been his guy. His business partner. Yeah, but then he has another guy as well. Leonard Ellerby. Leonard Ellerby. Yeah.  But you got to get to that point. That's all. It's just about getting to that point. Yeah. And he got to that point. What else tell again? The Kardashians are finally leaving air. I'm happy with that. Don't care about that this week. Okay. I mean that makes sense though, right? What are they going to do? Their whole show is about lifestyle and like going out to fancy places and enjoying dinners, that kind of stuff. It's Corona. What you going to film? You're not going to be able to film anything fun in terms of reality show for another year. So you might as well just cut it down. I don't think they can catch up anymore. I mean, I don't think they can keep up anymore. What you mean? I don't think they can keep up with how fast life goes. So by the time the show comes out, it's like, yo, we've been there. We've done there. We don't care.   You know what I mean?    You know what I'm saying? So that's like hard to beat. Yeah. What else are you going to do after that? Hard to beat? What they're going to do is they're going to wait for their children to get a little bit older and then just re... You think the next generation? Yes. If Chris don't die. If Chris stay alive, yeah. Why didn't he Chris? Because Chris, he's like the brain in this whole thing. I think the rest of them know business. I think Kim knows business way better than we give her credit for. Kylie definitely knows business because let's be for real. Nobody else had a makeup line. You know what I mean? Somebody connected the dots with her and she had the way I thought.  You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. What else Taylor? The vaccine that should be ready in October. I called this. I called this. What do you mean? I called this. I said... It's a flip shot. When I heard that Russia was making a vaccine, I said, Trump is going to come with this vaccine. He's going to give it to you on November 2nd. November 1st, November 2nd. Yeah. And you'll be incapacitated. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I promise you. What does that mean? What? Incapacitated.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I don't take that side. That's why I don't take the flu shot. I don't trust nothing. So you don't drug off the dog? Yeah. Okay. Listen. What do you think a flu shot is, bro? I don't know. I never try to take it. I don't want to take none. I don't have vaccines.  Oh, you don't believe in vaccines?   That was wild. She's a school teacher. She never had the flu shot. Not a vaccine. She just didn't have the flu shot. Really?  For what? Get the flu. Okay. All right, guys. Why do you want flu shots? Why do you want flu shots? I got a flu when I got the flu shot. What's the point of the flu shot? That's the whole point of the flu shot. Then what? Well, it gives you like a small dose of it that you can handle.  And that was like years ago. All right. How about this? Are y'all going to take the vaccine when it comes out? No. Hell no. Why not? No. Why not? No. Yo, they just stopped it in New England. I think it was no. Whoa, bro.   It's vising. It's vising. It's vising.  No, they put with crazy shots.  We don't stop coughing. Yo. That's what you need to stop doing. Stop coughing it. He look like he want to be Mickey Mouse, but you don't want to commit. You know, you put the nose on first. He look with the nose on, and he'll put the ears on. I don't have it all looking all crazy. I don't know. I'm not taking the vaccine when it first comes out because... Take the mask off, bro. No.  I'm not going to say his name because I don't know if he's supposed to be giving this information, but maybe he does. He said he puts out a newsletter.  You don't want to be the first motherfucker to take that virus. Yeah, you got to let... It's like the new iPhone. You got to let all the kinks get worked out. He said February is the latest. Yeah. He said February when it goes... He's like, wow. Yeah. Too late by then, though. Trump's too late by then.  So the thing is, is not whether Trump pays you. It's whether the government and Republicans wouldn't do this. Probably Democrats would do this. Will force you to take the vaccine or to have the vaccine in order to go to a job in a regular place, go to parks, go to grocery stores. They're like, if you're not vaccinated, you can't come in here because you get people sick. If I'm a politician, if I'm a Democrat, I wouldn't want them to have a vaccine. That helps. Oh, of course. Just in Seattle this week, the lady was like, we're staying in the lockdown until November 3rd. Oh, until the election day? You just want everybody locked in until the election day? Oh, my God. Come on. Yeah, I'm just simply not taking the vaccine until... I'm probably not able to take the vaccine, to be honest, would you? Yeah. Like why? If everybody else gets it, they cool. Yeah. If you get old, maybe the right thing to do. Yeah, when you get older, you know what I'm saying? If we can fight it off now with CMOS, we good. Bro, if you're not fat, you're good.  Why are you looking at me? Why are you looking at me? Because it's staying inside your body. Yo, that... Joe, why are you looking at me?  What? That's... As soon as he said that, he looked at me.  Yo, I thought you were coming home. I was talking to Wax. You might have to swing on him, you know? You might have to swing on him.  Scared you. You might have to swing on him, Taylor, for real. That's crazy, Taylor. That's my... Say again? My gun you have. Yeah, get that Nerf gun. Why? Because what you did was disrespectful. I didn't do nothing. You did. I said... I didn't do nothing. If you're fat, you could die from corona.  No, I didn't.  I looked this way. Wax was talking. You didn't look at Wax. No.  And then Taylor looked up and made her face. I was looking to see what she was making her face at. What she was making her face at? You looking at her? No. What? What are you talking about?   Yo, you gotta beat him up for that, dude.  What are you talking about? What? She got corona? No, she don't have corona, bro.  Yo, Wax is... Yo, have a mask, yo. Yo, son. Wax is really crazy, bro. What? She does not have a corona. No, that's not what we're talking about.  Charlotte's saying that she should have been... Why did you look like that, Taylor? Seriously? Um, what are you talking about? Oh, okay. Did you think that Charlotte was implying that you should be concerned about corona? Yes. And that would be disrespectful. That's what I said. What?  Looks like Black Zorro. I can't. I can't do this right now. Wax, I can't do this.  I just said about the corona, and now you're over here talking about...  Wax, it's all good, bro. Wax, it's all good, dawg. It's all good, dude. I'm lost. I don't know what's going on either. Neither do I. Anyways.  Hold on, you guys have two more ads. Okay, my bad. Two more ads? For real? Yeah, we out here balling, bro. Yeah. Do you want to do them now? All right, we can take a break for a second. Look, we got to pay some bills. Let me tell you something. Get that food delivered to your crib. Okay? You don't want to be out in the grocery store catching that corona. I don't care if a vaccine is there or not. You don't want to be there. Okay? 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That's BetterHelp.com slash brilliant. Now let's get back to the show. So. All right. What was we about to do?    And get up out of here. All right. I like the studio. I like the energy in here, man. Thank you, bro. That's dope. Thank you. I think we'll warm it up and put some more things in here. No. Congratulations. Congratulations. All right. This is dope. Thank you, man. We're doing some work with their studio. And then we got the monologue. We're doing cool things over here, man. I don't think that I'm being honest with you. I don't think Andrew gets enough credit for just being an entrepreneur, but just what he's built.  This is his. Thank you, man. Not his man's apartment. You know what I'm saying? Like you know what I mean? This is his. Like this is a studio he built in Brooklyn.   Yeah, it was cool.  Yeah. And now, you're doing all right. You got more YouTube subscribers than some of your favorite podcasts. Yeah, it's been cool. Yeah, man. It's been cool, man. Thank you, bro. And I can't do it obviously without Alex.  Don't you forget it. Don't you forget it.  You know what I mean. Shout out to Akash, shout out to Mark, man. Shout out to everybody that's helped us do it. That Mark out there? Uh, no, no, that's Robbie. Robbie. Yeah. What we got, Taylor?  All right.  Wow. A classier meat beater. Why would paying for porn be cheating? I can see why. Make the argument for me. I mean, it's just kind of like you're paying to see another vagina. But if you're not paying to see the vagina, then it's okay. It's probably a bigger argument if you get caught paying for it as opposed to just looking at it. I think your girl will be more upset. Yeah. Taking something away from us to do something that you know I'm not going to like. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you're, yeah. If I bet a girl would be furious if she found out you were paying for porn. If you're just whacking off to porn that's free, this is just being a guy. It's like going to have beers with the guys.  But yeah, if you're paying for porn. I'm not going to be drunk with my friends watching porn, Andrew. Say again? That's what you're saying? He's drunk. Nah. I don't know what you're talking about, bro. I'm not drunk with my friends watching porn. Like, what are you saying? I mean, I'm not sober with my friends watching porn. Hell no. What's wrong with watching porn with friends? What? I'm watching porn with my guy. Man, knock it off, man.    I don't call my boys to come over, do fantasy football, and then watch fantasy porn. But what's the difference between being 15 and 16 and watching porn with your boys and being... I'm not going to get hard on my boys. Is there a reason why we're watching porn? Nah, I wouldn't be hard on my boys when we're all watching porn together. What's going on, bro? I don't know. Hey, bro, I was watching porn. I was watching porn with my boys. My parents... I remember my mom did a classic immigrant thing. She got some... This is high school. She finally got some money, and then she bought the complete cable package. You know how, like, when you first get money, you haven't had, like, real money before?  And so she got the whole cable, but she's like, I want all the channels.  So we'll come back, me and the homies, you know, go back to the room, watch the porn. There were probably times that I was erect, and my friends were around. They might have been erect, too. We were sitting on each other's laps. It was just watching porn as friends at a safe distance. We were socially distanced. I showed girls playing with themselves on the phone, or...  You showed... You showed her. I was hard every time. Every time. I was erect. You was? Wax. I'm mad as hell to know that. Hey, it is what it is. Okay? When the internet first started... When the internet first started, you watched it like bang bros. With your boys. Legendary. Come on, man. H3, Latinas. Yo, bro, we never did that. We never watched porn together. That's a lot. No, you guys said...   But you don't look at it. No, no, no!   Let the record show I've never completed any of those train rides.  Well, if you did, more than once. No. Once I was in the room, right? Because... Wax was in there. So what happened was... So I went, uh... I don't remember how it started.  Because Wax was doing... Wax was doing too much. Wax was making me feel uncomfortable. He got his Tim like this on the bed. He's just like, you're broke. Come on, man.  That was the first black effect. He put that Tim on the table. And then I'm short. So if I'm short and Wax is tall and the woman is in front and say Wax sitting in it from the back and then she's doing something to me... Oh, that's his Wax! She's a table and you're having a little picnic with Wax. That's literally what it is. You had dinner with Wax.  Dicks out fully hard. Nothing could be gayer than that, yo. I won't hear no judgment, bro. I'm so glad. Nothing could be gayer than that. I thank God. I thank God we grew up. Amen. I swear to God, man. The 20s was a wild time, bro. No reason. God have mercy, man. Jesus Christ.    Give me another one, Taylor. Thank God for growth. Okay. Well, I don't know. This is so much growth.  Oh, sorry. This is for insensitive culture.   I guess so.   Fire in your back.  Yeah.  Yeah. Then you could wear a shirt. Yeah. Vagina on my forehead. Oh, you mean like a tattoo? But then again, you could wear a hat. I bet you mean like a girl sitting on your fucking, on your forehead and the guy's putting their meats on your back. That's what I'm thinking. The segment of the show called Ask a High Question. Like what? Like I'm trying to figure out why.  That was wild. What you just imagined was wild. I was tattooed. I didn't know it was tattooed. I thought it was girls. Just put a vagina on your forehead.    Go, go, go, go. Give us another one, Taylor Gang. Jesus. I have two more. Who do you think, or this is to pistachio underscore circus. Who do you think should play the next Black Panther? Now this is a good question. I was thinking about this. Yo, I love Chadwick Boseman. Rest in peace to Chadwick Boseman. South Carolina all day. You know, you have to recast him. You have to. Black Panther is... Well, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, you know, people are saying things like, sure he played, sure he played, sure he was Black Panther for two seconds in the comic books. You know what I mean? Okay. Kilmonger was even Black Panther for a brief moment in the comic book. Like, you have to let... You just got to recast. Like, I'm sure from what I was told or what I read, Ryan Coogler just finished writing Black Panther 2. I actually think they were supposed to be start filming Black Panther 2 this year because Black Panther 2 is supposed to be released in 2022 if I'm not mistaken. Wow. So, and I think I read somewhere Chadwick was just about to start shooting but then he got sick. I don't remember. I don't know. Maybe I'm getting this wrong. But my point is, you just got to recast. You got to recast. Yeah. You have to. Like, you can't just throw that story away. Throw that rich story away. Like, you got to recast. Black Panther. Are you Black? I'm just saying. Like, I'll do it.  I would think being Black is probably something they're looking for when you want to play Black Panther. Black Panther, I don't know. He had an accent. Yeah, but you got to recast. I saw somebody say Lance Gross. Lance Gross? I saw somebody say that. What about making Killmonger, like, switch his character and end up being the good guy and then he becomes the new Black Panther? Somebody suggested that along. Yeah, but if you've already written a whole script, you know how long it takes to write these movies? You know what I'm saying? Like, Ryan Coogler has devoted so much time. He's probably got a storyline. I think you just got to recast. You know what I'm saying? They should go get somebody from Africa. You know what I'm saying? Go find an actor from Africa who can play that role. I'm sure there's somebody. You know what I mean? When Chadwick was on Breakfast Club, God Bless the Dead, Chadwick was talking about his tribe that he's from. I think it's the Yoruba tribe if I'm not mistaken. Go on the hunt. See if there's some actors out there that are part of that tribe from that region. Yeah. Chadwick, Yoruba. Yoruba. So it's that region. If I'm not mistaken, he's got some Nigerian in him. It's crone in this room. But yes, got to recast him. What else, Taylor? One more. Taylor? Yes. He got one thing to do. Partial. What did he just say? Cardio? Nobody said that. Nobody said that. I knew you were going to do that. I knew you were going to do that.  What did he say? He's just mad because my hips are breaking and hit. That's all. No, you hear what he said. That's what you should punch. This guy's crazy. What? I didn't hear you say that. What is it? Throw that. Throw that. You know what? We're kind of built similar. Yo. Yo. Yeah.  Who? You. Me.  We're built similar. I don't even say nothing. I'm sitting over here texting. Yeah. Listen, Taylor, you have a great body. I know.   Who want to put on some porn? All right. I'm going to just do this one. All right. One more. Let's go. From Villarreal16. What's the dream of yours that you have yet to reach? You're about to see. A little bit more time and you're about to see. Put it that way. That's it. I'll do a little tease. Yeah. Honestly, my dream has always been to be able to empower people, empower people, employ people, you know, partner with people, put people in positions that they can win. I think we, I mean, yeah, I've been, I'm doing that. I've been doing it for a while. Like my dreams aren't like crazy, crazy. You know what I mean? I just like to see people win. Like, you know what I mean? Like I like to throw more assists than I do score points. So as long as I'm in a position to throw assists, I'm dream fulfilled. That's all. Beautiful. Want to, want to close us out, Charlotte? Yeah, man. Listen, as always, thank you for joining us in this wonderful studio, the brilliant idiot. Thank you. Studio, short studio. This is really short studio. When you ring the bell, his name pops up. When you walk down the hall, it says short studios. Got some branding, bro. Branding is important. Branding is important. So as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant.  You're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Thanks.