The following is a presentation of TFNN. Trade what you see with Larry Pezzavento. Call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER>. Now Larry Pezzavento. Okay folks, so we're going to answer an email today. We got from Tom C and his question was he was looking at TLT and he was interesting to say that he seemed a little confused on which direction it was going. Well Tom, welcome to trading. That happens to me every time I put a trade on. However, what we will do is we'll look at this from my perspective and maybe that'll help out a little bit. As you can see here that there's some things here. He must be a big fan of old known Steve Rhodes and of course you should be because Steve is really good at what he does here. I don't know what these supporting lines mean. They're a little different. I can see the ABCD stuff that's in here and I can see the trading cycle. But basically what I'll do here is I'll go down to TLT and we'll look at it together and see if we can find something that'll give us a rough idea of where we are here. Hold on a second. I had it right here. Where did I do with it?  And here it is right here. Here's TLT as we're looking at. You can see that big ABCD but this is what he was asking about was this particular move right here and his question was what direction is it's going to go? Well, the first thing I would say is it's going down and the reason for that is if you look at the swings from your high to your high to your high you're in a descending market. Okay? That's a well, a longer term of course that's come off of a bottom but nearby we have lower highs. Now all you want to do and he did a good job of this if you just measure with your pencil and go over to see if the high to high is measuring pretty good. There it is every 25 to 80 days it seems to be, you know, making a high. So that's what that's the one of the things that would be a 135 pattern fitting in purpose perfectly. Second thing you would do is to measure a ratio from your high down to your low and you'll see that we came in just a little above the 50% level of the high right back here and then on the high that we made back here in early February that one's probably going to be a spot on 61% retracement and of course there it is. So where do we go from here? So here's what we're looking at. TLT is an ETF trades quite a bit it's not for day traders I'm almost 100% sure that but that's what we're looking at. Where do we go from here? This is a really key spot. Now all we're going to do now and this is one of the things is one of our trades that we had for today. Let's just get this up here and we'll be able to see it together here is the treasury bond. I said this is the same chart basically that he was showing us that Tom was showing us this is that same 135 pattern but only with the treasury bond futures. This is the second largest futures contract. The first one is the treasury notes and as you can see here we have this pattern that is going here and that's what we were watching this morning. So what we did is we moved down to a 60 minute chart and showed the folks on the video that you want to be selling the bonds here at 120.04. 5 was 120.05. We're now trading at 119.28. 29. So as long as we don't get above that that tells us we're going to back off. Now the second question you want to ask yourself is remember this thing bottom back here on the 17th had another bottom here when the Fed was here on the 20th so we have a couple of higher bottoms in here. So the first point we'd be looking for some major support would be going down from this low up to your high right here and that should tell you that down about three quarters of a point right in here at 119.12 would be a 382 retracement. Now remember now we're looking at this on a daily basis, an hourly basis in a daily context and there's the 18th of March we rally up to the 20 seconds that's four days you want to look for about a two or three day correction into this area right about here. Now if it collapses from here like it did here you'd be expecting a move that would take you down to just about there. So there's your area of support for that particular trade because you put it on an hourly basis. So there's your area of support right in here between 119.12 and 119.04 that's a difference of eight ticks so that's pretty good but that's what I'd be looking for for that trade. Now in this particular trade here your stop would be up here excuse me, 120.15 because you don't want to risk more or 14 you want to risk more than 10 points because if you're risking just $300 at least two or three times that and that's what you're looking for because what we're doing here folks is a simple ABCD stuff that's really, that's the bottom line that I live and breathe by so let's keep that in mind. The video problem that we've been having first of all I apologize for having the allergies I couldn't talk because it wasn't allergies I had a sore throat which is due to infection related to what I had but that's all cleared up now and I think I'm doing pretty good so well, knock on wood but I'll use that one. Okay, let's move on to a couple of things here we talked about that S&P situation where we had a whole bunch of things happening so let's look at something else here we'll get rid of the TLT now because I want to talk to you just a second here about the Russell and it's right there I believe now here's Russell now remember folks we had that tremendous move here was the big move this is a weekly, okay now remember you see these highs right in here where it doesn't quite make the exact 61% retracement bike alley folks on that run that we had here on Wednesday and also the open interest was dropping we made a higher high here by three points and we went above the exact 61% retracement by three points the high was 2132 so that's two and a half points from the high and we're now trading you know 30 points under that but that's what's happening we'll look at it on a short term basis you'll see what I'm referring to there was your high right up in here okay and look at this this was yesterday folks I mean hello opera, oh wait does that say today? oh that was early in the morning sorry this early morning couldn't have been that early because there it is wow it's not down that much at all so maybe it's going to go higher I don't know all I'm saying is be really careful because it's really interesting here watching some of these things unfold now let's take a look at the crude oil market because remember in the newsletter I said be really careful of this stuff up in here let's just get the get the daily up so we can see it really easy because we had this ABCD pattern I know you guys get tired of hearing it but you know what I like it let's move on not only do I like it I like it a lot there's your ABCD pattern right here and you'll notice that it measured where this measured to $82.89 this measured to $82.92 and the high was $83.12 $0.20 away now you can see we're $1,500 under that but it's coming down very slowly one two three we're down three days it's not doing very much at all so the first thing I would do is I would go to that hourly chart move it over just a little bit so I can see where I am because now I know where I am there was your big move right here remember that one that was right here on the 11th of April March and now what we're doing is we're coming down really close to the 382 or the whole Gamilla we got to get back to that oh yeah we've hit it three times really close attention in here at this $80 folks very very important number here hey let's take a break<PHONE_NUMBER> and we'll be right back Steve Rhodes started his trading career as a student almost 20 years ago and the student has now become the master Steve won the prestigious Timer of the Year award in 2018 and barely missed that mark again in 2019 finishing at number two for the year an amazing accomplishment Steve Rhodes is committed to sharing his techniques and knowledge with anyone who wants to learn and he shares his vast amount of trading knowledge every day in his mastering probability newsletter Steve's award winning newsletter Mastering Probability is delivered every trading day with updates throughout the afternoon sign up for Steve's market newsletter Mastering Probability and you'll receive access to seven of Steve's educational webinars absolutely free at TFNN all our newsletters come with a 30-day money back guarantee so you have absolutely nothing to worry about visit TFNN.com and try Mastering Probability 30 days risk free today TFNN Educating Investors the stock market is a delicate interconnecting web of commodities equities and trader psychology when one string of the web is pulled it has a ripple effect across the broader market this is where opportunity lies but how are you to gather all of this information into one cohesive model when you're already spending your energy looking for any possible trade opportunities luckily you don't have to worry about that as Tom O'Brien has brought all important market news to you in one single newsletter Market Insights Market Insights provides a daily overview of what's happening in the indexes, bonds, gold and more follow along with Tom daily as he analyzes the components that affect the overall stock market giving insight into how each one plays either a bullish or bearish role Tom also analyzes specific equities that he believes has the potential to make huge returns and his track record proves his analysis right all first time subscribers receive a 30-day money back guarantee so what are you waiting for? don't let the market leave you in the dust are you ready to take charge of your financial future? 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3, 7, 6, 1, 8 okay folks I've had a question about the A word astrology and I done some work on that just enough to make me dangerous and believe me I shy away from it as much as I can for two reasons one is that it's over my pay grade and two it's like everything else it doesn't work all the time and it's a little too hard for me to understand so I stick with what I know the best now this is a S&P going over the last couple years last 18 months you'll notice from the lows to the highs was 20 weeks up lows to the highs 20 week up this was the key part right here was October 27th when we were looking at the Bradley Mall and all those things that were lining up at that time that happened to be a near perfect 382 of that move this is 0.42 but it's not set right it should been set there it's a 30 382 retracement that's when I became very very bullish and of course missed the whole thing now when you look at lunar eclipses and full moons and of course you have solar eclipses and new moons the first thing you want to ask yourself is does this thing have any predictability so you got a numbers guy working with you like I did with Mr. T Jimmy Tonyman I had I used to have all the statistics unfortunately Jimmy had him and you know I don't want to go back into it again it works about 70% of the time but when it works with the pattern that's a little better than 70% of the time now you'll notice here that there are some other eclipses over here so you went back into March we had an eclipse right in here around the 18th of April okay then we had a really big one right here on that low right here which was May the 5th that was right at that low now this is a weekly chart you can see the market backed off virtually nothing and then they continue to go a lot higher and if you wanted to you know defy human nature like Jimmy said and do the work yourself measure the A B CD move on that one and guess where it takes you folks right in here to this level right here so when I go through these things and say we're looking at a lunar eclipse in the full moon just like we were back in here it means it may or may not work all I do is I look at this pattern right here and at 52 94 I mean that was the high the previous week okay but we made a higher high so that higher high was 53 22 now the difference between 53 22 and 52 94 for all your statisticians and perfectionist is 0.005 five one thousandth of a point folks that's not very much that's pretty much spot on so the markets up next week guess what back to the 200 moving average no not quite that bad but that's what we're paying attention to okay let's move on to another one here that people have asked me about and that here is the British pound because we got a nice trade set up possibly here the British pound if I can find it the British pound where are you right there there it is right here get ready boys and girls get ready to hit the green line because we're almost there hold on we might even be below it but I don't think so this hold get this up here so shut the front door raise the red there we go we're almost here right now here stop the music stop the music there we are here's where we are now you recognize this pattern here folks I think so anyway here's where we were back here on the 8th okay that was several weeks ago there was your a leg right here all right okay and guess what this is not ever gonna be tested there's your b leg and there's your c leg coming in and one two five seven oh and here it is it one two five nine one okay that's an that's an a b cd coming in right at this level right about here so what we're gonna do now is we're gonna look at this on the daily and see if it looks like anything and by golly it does look like something we thought there was gonna be a low right in here which we did and there is your a b cd for me just as we speak we'll clean this out so we can see it on the daily and make it look a little better now the thing you gotta be afraid of are these big down moves here right well let me ask you a question boys and girls markets repeat don't they so let's go back and see the last time we had something like this we had two big down days look at that actually how much did it drop it dropped from 127 70 it dropped 220 handles during that move right there okay what did it do this time from the high to the low we're going a little bit below it and we have a little what's almost spot on look at that move it over just a little bit so we can see it that's almost a spot on tight move so we are at a major support just get this in one more time because all you want to do is make you see where you are you're through the 786 by just a little bit you're trading on it probably right about now yeah that's exactly where it's trading almost right now 2984 292592 so we're right in that ballpark see here I don't know if it's going to work or not but folks this is this is a ABCD pattern and it's still bullish because you haven't taken out these lows yet so your risk here is very little so your risk is only about 30 40 pips which is roughly $250 because if we go below this is how I try to calculate the maximum risk exposure like all of you that listen to the show each day get tired of hearing it over and over again I take this section right here okay because I know this is ABCD so I take this section right here and I want to expand it so you go from your low up to your high and look what the low was right here okay we go below that so I don't have anything to do with it so now I've got my risk quantified just about the easiest way I could possibly quantify it so that's what we're really paying attention to those of you that are involved in the soybean market and stuff we there's been a had a heck of a run and we're having a little bit of a correction today but not very much I had an order today to buy the wheat this is one of the things I really wanted to buy today was the wheat to buy it right here and as you can see I got the lows of yesterday by a penny and we've already rallied 14 cents I don't know when I'm going to get to buy the wheat but I really want to buy it I probably should just buy it at the market and not worry about it but that I don't do very well so I don't like to chase market so I'm going to have to wait and see what the next number will be on the upside but I'm watching it carefully and remember we're still in the down move this thing is only up from that low way back here remember this is where our buy point was right back here at 522 we only got to 527 so we missed it and that tells us that the way this is acting we've taken out all these highs here now alright and we took an out we've taken this low out that means we are going higher and we're going to do this you're going to have to guess what this pattern is but I'm sure you'll guess it right and that's going to take us up here oh there it is right there between there's a number 567 that's the 1.618 expansion just draw that in so we 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Great Larry, how are you? Thanks for having me on. It's my pleasure still above the ground living the dream pal Listen I have a question before we start to show it it'll only take a couple seconds over your many many years 50 years or so experience that you've got here with the astrology stuff Have you kept statistics on turns in the market on solar and lunar eclipses that was a question that we had from Peter out of Park City My research I haven't done it recently but back in the old days there I did about a 30-40 years study on lunar eclipses lunar eclipses seem to be much more effective for the stock market than the solar eclipses solar eclipses maybe 50-60% give you a turn but the lunar eclipses are probably in the 70 maybe 75% and what I found was on average the stock market does not like lunar eclipses and within one day of a lunar eclipse I think about 75% of the time on average the Dow Jones ESP will drop about 1-3 quarter percent Wow, okay That's the question so thank you very much my friend, please continue We've got one coming up here and we'll be getting to that before before my presentation is done Go ahead, please continue Okay, what I'd like to do right now is you might remember Larry I had requested to come on on March the 8th just ahead of a new moon and you had a schedule conflict and couldn't do that so we had to take a pass I went ahead and did a YouTube video to show a follow-up on the forecast I'd made on your show on February the 23rd just ahead of a full moon and that worked out where and so on the video you can request that sending an email and I'll be happy to send you what I would have said here on Larry's show on the 8th of March and shows you the results from the previous show's forecast and what I was forecasting at that time just ahead of that new moon I ended up hitting 11 out of 12 winning the signals for 91.67% and so that brings you up to speed and now you can see the forecast I would have made on Larry's show and it's all on video on the 8th of March so I can't make this up after the fact it's all on public record so here's what I was forecasting back on the 8th of March just ahead of the new moon you might want to take a screen shot of this because as we go through I'll be referring back to these points AC means after the close the 8th was a Friday so over that weekend we had a new moon at perigee in the sign of Pisces any time we have a new moon full moon we round up the usual suspects financial grains precious metals and because it was in the sign of Pisces that's oil so we're going to be emphasizing featuring oil for new moon and Pisces at perigee then we had Jupiter to the U.S. natal chart any time we have that the natal chart is taking a snapshot of the planets where the planets were at the time of the founding of the USA on July the 4th 1776 any time we do have that we look at stocks, t-bonds and U.S. dollar then that was also over the weekend then the night of the 12th we had Mercury at zero north latitude Mercury is one of the big factors for the grains corn, soybeans, wheat and by the way stocks potentially respond to all these events so all these events we'll be looking at the stock market then we had a really big thing this is kind of a general thing that's happening specifically we had going to the Jupiter-Uranus conjunction cycle and we're going to be having several related events over the next 8 to 6 8 weeks so forth with this this is a 13 year cycle and related to this I think I might have mentioned back in February related to this this was the sort of the cycle I stumbled on Donald Bradley's book back when it was about 1771 when I was a college student there in the University in Terre Haute Indiana and I stumbled on Donald Bradley's book they had one copy on an empty shelf and I was already studying the stock market already studying astrology and thought there might be a way to put the two things together but I didn't have a clue what to do and I saw this book picked it up and in the middle of the book we have a pair of two planets what period does it take for Jupiter to go around and catch up and line up with the Uranus and that's a 13 year cycle and then he talked about the different angles or different phases of that the subdivisions of that correlated with the 41 month business cycle and showed a chart that the stock market was going up and down on this cycle and I have a background of family background going back several generations in the scrap business and heard about my father talking about copper prices and I knew the economics major and knew the copper was probably on that cycle too when I researched it and I ended up being the first stock everybody bought a good old anaconda copper there back in the early 70s and I made enough money based on them doing that on the planets never traded a stock before in my life I made enough money on that that led to my buying a membership in 1975 on the Chicago board options exchange and I did that I was there for 12 years so anyway this cycle kind of holds a special place in my heart anyway we had the helio version that's from the point of view of the sun on the night of the 13th and both Jupiter and Uranus line up in the sign of Taurus the bull and of course then you would expect to look at cattle because that's a bull that's a you know Taurus and then we also have Uranus that's copper and also Taurus is cotton so we'll be looking at those markets then the night of the 15th we had Mercury perihelion we get to learn multiple languages in astrology helios is Greek for the sun peri means close so that's in Mercury's 88 days cycle around the sun Mercury is at its closest point there that night of the 15th and of course if we're day out Mercury we're going to be looking at the grains plus because the sun is involved it's related to the sun we'll also be looking at the solar markets which are corn and sun is corn because it's golden you know and then gold that's where it means wheat then we have Venus at the opposite point where Mercury is 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I'm going to do it real quick it basically projected a change in trend for the S&P for March 12th okay so we'll see how that when I get the S&P chart we'll see how that went here's and now we're going to review the charts for these forecasts we had the four points for the corn we had the first one is the full moon was that a full moon wait a new moon I'm sorry new moon over the eighth the weekend there then we had the next point was mercury zero north latitude then we had mercury perihelion and the last one was venus apihelion as you can see there we had three out of four winners green arrows winner red is a miss and if you see yellow that's a pass where the micro is going sideways here's the soy beans missed on the moon because it went higher we're looking for a turn right and the day before that high we took a little bit of draw down there and then if you sold there and these high in there eventually a few days later we had a winner over here so not a big winner but it was a small winner then the wheat was a little bit better you had the miss on the moon then that was a very nice top there on the mercury zero north latitude and then down to mercury perihelion very nice low there and then up there for the venus apihelion nice little top there and here's your cattle here's our one of our biggest most so more interesting points with jupiter lining up in the sign of taro sabal you would hope that that would work because it kind of speaks to itself you might say and so that's like a double hit there double winner there with a big down if you sold there on the opening as after the close of the overnight from the I'll turn my phone off there we go and then we're going down anyway that was a nice one there and cotton made a little bit of a top there and down and sugar on your venus point there made a nice low there and then rallied and copper you had a miss there on the first point copper copper copper was hold on let me fix that got a margin call it's not a margin call is it norm nope I know all right anyway so we got the copper there miss there but a little bit of a short-term low there on the venus point there so that's worked out so 5050 copper silver has been pretty reliable usually 80 90% accurate trading on the moon with your is it Mary Rivers is that right Larry yep nice moon is Scorpio that was right yep I look at the new moon full moon for silver and it works pretty well a little short-term top there that's good for about 50 60 cents which on the 5,000 ounce contract that's a pretty good money there you know right and then we got gold there making a top right there on the moon and right just pass that high there and down down down but this kind of made a low there but then it didn't go anywhere just went sideways and so I had to count that as a miss and then over here by the point we got here then you're just going sideways so that's a pass here the crew did really nicely on the moon in Pisces so the new moon in the sign of Pisces I told you that's oil and look at that giant rally we had off of that nice low there there we go that was that's something real money there that's 70 76 roughly to over 80 about 7 handles there $7,000 here's the S&P we had all these points here for the S&P added a double point here for the weekend of the 8th and we went up here for like a triple top here and those were all good and then we had a little short-term high there and then over here that we just had the one miss venus api healing and this is just going sideways here on the T bonds unfortunately so that was had a double point there over the weekend of the 8th but that was a double pass so we did nothing there a dollar had a very nice dip into the moon the currencies are in the work in the 70s winning in the 70s I would guess and there you go you had a double point there for the US dollar just off of that low there you're buying against that low and then a really nice rally there there's your Aussie dollar mirror image pretty much of the dollar British pound did the same and here's your Canadian Canadian dollar is the only one that didn't work very well you kind of missed the boat there was a high there and by this point you're too far off of the high there I bet the euros is a better closer to that top there so that counts and there's your Japanese yen that was really excellent really close to that high there over the 8th weekend and then down down down she goes here's a Swiss franc and same kind of deal so out of the 30 30 sigils oh I'm sorry we had 38 sigils we had 30 winners 8 misses out of 38 for 78.95% now here's what's coming up in the future immediately this weekend AC after the close today is March 22 and here's look at all we have here this weekend and these are only the top ones I'm showing you I got some minor ones too but we have Uranus lining up with the US Merckers that's the US deal a stock the bonds US dollar then we're going to have Mars change signs a sign of Pisces and I told you that's oil and then Saturn to the US chart again stocks D bond US dollar this is all happening over this weekend that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 points then we have Jupiter to the US chart again stocks D bonds US dollar then we have Mercury cycle for the grains corn, soybeans, wheat keep in mind that's also stocks and then we have a full moon lunar eclipse I think it's in the wee hours early Monday morning before the market opens I think like 3 in the morning something like that and anytime we have that we have financial grains, precious metals oil and because it's in the sign of Libra we'll be emphasizing sugar and wheat we're running a special on sugar and wheat so there's your forecast coming up here immediately and hopefully we'll be able to show the results of that if Larry allow me to come back again we'll have to work on that but I think we'll get to squeeze you in somehow listen tell the folks how they can reach you Norm let me just tell you real quick for anybody that doesn't know me been doing this a 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No sir, we're paying bills right now so we'll talk to you next time we have you on the air okay? 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Hello, my name is... What weird name over there when they listen to Neo. And if you know me, if you've ever deal with the Bigel Bone Black or the Bigel Bone, which is a really low cost open source hardware board by the BigelBord.org, and I'm here to talk about what it means to actually buy into the whole device tree thing and try to migrate from a platform device port file to a purely device tree architecture. As you see, we're going to talk about the world story, which is exactly what it was. It wasn't exactly easy because the big problem with the device tree is that it assumes that everyone has already everything ready to migrate to device tree. That means all the bindings are there, all the drivers support device tree. And as we found out, that's not what happens in the real world. And that led to many problems, but we managed to make it work. So that's what I learned out of this whole experience. So yeah, it's going to look pretty horrible at first, but eventually you can get it done and it will help you and you get something out of your troubles. So at first this was a bird of feather session, so I would expect you to participate and if you can share your stories. So how many of you here has done any driver development? Can you raise your hands? Pretty good. How many have done a platform device board file based platform development? Okay, how many have done a device tree? Okay, just a single guy. Okay, more. Okay, so I think we have a lot to talk about. So in the beginning we had the original Bigelbomb. It was named just Bigelbomb then, it wasn't named Bigelbomb White because there wasn't any Bigelbomb Black then. It's a very inexpensive Cortex A8 board. The latest release based on a normal board file platform was on a 3.2 kernel, but as you can see it was pretty heavily patched. It had almost 15,000 patches on top of the vanilla version 3.2 kernel. So as you can imagine that's pretty hard to mainline. It just wasn't going to happen. The thing is it worked. People sold it and lots of people used it on OEM products. There was a really big decision to actually try to support everything that Bigelbomb White did on the Bigelbomb Black and that led to most of the problems with the Black. So if you know about how a board file based platform works, usually you have a board file and on that board file you define everything that has to do with your platform.  The problem with the board file of the Bigelbomb was that it wasn't just for the Bigelbomb, it was for all the AM335X based boards of TI and it was pretty huge, something like 4000 lines. Obviously not on mainline and it supported besides Bigelbomb quite a lot of number of TI boards. So when we started doing the Bigelbomb Black support, we took a look at it and said, okay, this is going to be really hard. So we said, oh, that device tree thing is the new way to support ARM boards, so let's do that so that it's easier to get it in the mainline. So we sat around to do that. So what was the biggest problem of the original Bigelbomb support was that the Bigelbomb has a number, it's capable of stackable expansion boards which are identified by a square apron and you read that and you figure out what kind of board you have and you configure the drivers accordingly so that they work. So this is a fragment of the board file there and you could imagine that this was going on for a few hundred lines even more just saying, okay, if you have this board, then I have to do this thing but the thing is you can stack those boards so expansion boards could conflict and then you had to do some really complex logic about what to enable, what to disable and in the end it was just very hard to add more expansion boards and on top of that, if this board was sold to hobbyists and all these guys want to do hardware with it, they want to create new capes and they want to do something new with it so they had, in order to support it, they would have to hack the board file and do the same thing for their own board, making sure that nothing else was affected and everything else worked so that they could send us the patch and then we could support their board out of the box but using the board file just wasn't going to happen, it was just too complicated so let's start about what happened and Linus decided, okay, no more board files, we need to do something different I don't know if you have read that thread where Linus just exploded and said, okay, you should really get your stuff together and you should do something differently so at that point in time the PowerPC device 3 support was completed and a lot of PowerPC refugees were in the ARM kernel community and they pushed for having device 3 as the solution to all the problems that the ARM kernel had so that's what started the ball rolling and that meant no more new board files so the thing is ARM is really complex and if you have no board files, how would you go out and support every different board that you would create and this is what device 3 is supposed to be it's just a structure that describes hardware and really that's all that it is, it's nothing more, nothing less but the other stuff that's happening now in the community is just more self-inflicted problems by the community so it's not a problem of the technology, it's just that the way that we set out and implement the technology and the way that we did things led to many problems it was hard to get anything in the main line since everything had to be perfect because the hardware doesn't change so the binding in theory shouldn't change but that's not the case in the real world the hardware might not change but that's exactly the same thing as saying that the driver should be perfect just by writing it the first time you shouldn't make any changes to the kernel driver but we know that's not what happens so that's what should happen with the device 3 bindings, at least in our experience so I don't know if you've followed the device 3 for dummy session and you know how device 3 works so you have a source file DTS let's use device 3 compiler to compile it into a DPD device 3 blob and then you load the kernel along with the device 3 blob and when the kernel boots it will unflatten the tree and iterate over the device node to create the platform devices and that's it that means that in theory you could have a kernel that would support any kind of arm board well, this is a very distant target for us right now so it is possible to support similar boards which is something that we do with the big board and the big bone but it's really hard to do that on any arbitrary arm board at least now because there's still work to be done there so what's the difference when you use device 3 is that you don't use platform data so what happens is when you have a platform device the configuration of that device and all the things that you need to set up for it to work was defined in a platform data structure which was passed to the driver so that it knows how to configure the driver but this now is gone so on your platform device probe method when you check your platform data pointer you see that it's null so you have to use open firmware to iterate over the device 3 node and pick up the properties that configure your driver so another big change is there's no more board or architecture specific drivers well, or they shouldn't be so anything that you've used that was specific for a specific board or for a specific architecture should be a generic driver and you should use that as much as possible instead of custom drivers for example on OMAP there was a custom pin control driver OMAP MOOCs driver actually that allowed various things to be configured even on runtime like pinmoxes and all that but this is a duplicate functionality of the pin control driver so that had to be removed and the pin maxing had to be configured by device 3 now so many of the old customers of the big bone white had big problems there because they based their design on using that driver and that driver just went away so they were pretty unhappy about that and the final thing about device 3 is that it's just pure data it doesn't do anything related to callbacks so you just define data and then your driver should act upon it there's no callbacks to your platform, specific platform stuff if you need to do callbacks you need to use some kind of device notification mechanism which is not easy to retrofit on existing platform data driver but up to now we just talked about the stuff that's just standard for every ARM board when you go out and switch to device 3 but there's something really special about the big bone and those are the capes so the capes can be really really simple just be PCB that connects directly to some pins in the SoC packets and you just add a minimal amount of hardware so that you make it do something that the SoC already supports so you could have I don't know an audio cape you could have a CNC cape you can have whatever you think you can do by using the capabilities of the SoC so the target of this board was hardware hackers and hardware hackers doesn't mean that they are kernel hackers there was no way that just a hardware guy can figure out what's going on in the kernel and patch it and configure it escape to work without considerable effort so what we had to do we had to enable it we had to enable people to do work without recombining the kernel and just by combining a device 3 overlay which will come up to that they could support whatever hardware they need to without modifying the standard angstrom image that we used so another complication is that big bone black has extra hardware on it which is a non-board EMMC and that's the AMI framer and those use the same pins of the capes that the big bone white used and they were available before so there had to be a mechanism so when you plug in a cape that used the pins of the HDMI framer for example the HDMI framer should be disabled and then you could use the pin that you want to overwrite that functionality and the same thing with the EMMC it mostly worked but there was needed different hardware division so that the HDMI framer could work reliably some resistors had to be adjusted in value another thing that we really want to do is make that all automatic so if you design your cape and you programmed your eProm correctly that identifies the cape as a specific cape which there is support for it it should just work, you should just plug it in and it should work, it should load the drivers that you need and you should have it working and you pretty much done that and you need the cape manager to do that the cape manager is just a specific big bone driver that handles the reading of the eProms the reading of the baseboard eProms so that it knows if it's on a black or a white and load the HDMI and the EMMC driver and then it probes the i2C bus where the eProms of the capes are and then figures out which device you overlaid to load loads it and then you're done, it's working after that due to that this is probably the most advanced usage of device in a shipping product right now so now that's the easy part so now we're going to talk about the hard parts the hard parts is the driver problem so I don't know if you know how silicon vendors work after they ship a product and they release the initial version of working kernel 3 they pretty much don't care about it they will only care about what's in that chip and what the drivers do if they use the same hardware IP in a more updated silicon version that's the only way that it makes sense for the silicon vendor but to keep on working on the same SOC because there's no more money to be made there all chips are not that... they don't have much profit there so when we started the Bigel Bone we were under the impression that device 3 support is there we just need to take the drivers included in the kernel make some minor patches and it would work but that wasn't the case we found out that the significant amount of drivers had no device 3 bindings at all so we had the case where we had a device 3 only board but half of the drivers didn't work because they didn't have device 3 bindings so if you just care about the board booting and having a serial port and ethernet but that's not how you can sell product you need to have almost every hardware IP in the device support it and support it right out of the box and we also found out that some of the drivers didn't have working bindings so that's different so the way that driver development happens it happens on many different kernel trees or subsystem trees so you start with the mainline tree that's your base and then you start pulling patches from whatever other tree you need to do to pick up patches so that it works but even after that it doesn't mean that they work together so you had for example USB it's pretty much... was really hard to get it working because right at the moment that we started working on it the whole... there was this idea that you should use something called USB 5 drivers but right at this moment there wasn't anything available so they were just in the middle of rewriting everything so we had to do whatever we had to make it work a little bit then we have cases where the device tree bindings that were there didn't make sense all the time so for example we have a camera cape so that camera cape needs a specific clock to be brought out to the connector and then being fed to the camera chip but no one thought about this use case when they created the bindings so you had the case where you had to support something but no one thought about that something needed something from the clock driver to be configured so we had to go there and fix that as well I don't know also about what GPMC is General Purpose Memory Controller but that's the interface where you connect memory map interfaces like satirgrams and Norflash the way that the driver is written is like you have a GPMC driver and then you have various drivers that you connect only specific parts that the driver knows about so let's say you have the GPMC driver and you can only connect nonflash and you can only connect satirgram or something like that but that's not the right way to do it in device tree the right way to do it is to have a GPMC subsystem and then have a driver of that GPMC subsystem export it to the specific board driver but it can use it to configure the GPMC interface for whatever it needs so we didn't manage to fix that but we know that this is pretty bad so we need to figure a way to fix it in the kernel so a lot of the bindings that are there only make sense for a very limited set of evaluation boards that the developers of the bindings had at that point in time but a lot of these things have to be reworked in more general purpose mechanisms and the final thing is you had to hunt for all the bits about the drivers that you need support all over the place so you had the main land tree you had TI's internal kernel trees you had some bits that we had to pull from the DRM kernel tree we had to pull some bits from the USB developer tree so it was just all over the place and I think that's the problem of the device tree bindings acceptance because the developers submit the drivers and they end up in the special kernel trees of its subsystem and then when the subsystem maintainer tries to push it to the main line kernel some device tree guy would just say ok this binding is not good, this binding is not good and just bindings stay on those trees for a few months which is pretty bad when you have to ship something and of course there is something called booting mainline what vendor usually means when it says I'm booting on mainline means I have a serial port and I can boot over in ETRD technically that's correct but that's not what the customer expects when you sell a board to a customer that says I'm running mainline 3.12 or something they expect all their hardware to work they don't like saying ok I can boot with this kernel but I don't have audio, I don't have video, I don't have USB which is now the case I think so there's this Cuts22 which means the vendors cannot deal with turn which is constant changing in the kernel without any visible progress being made and visible progress means I finally get my driver into the mainline 3 and I don't have to keep after it but the amount of time it takes for drivers to be developed and the bindings to be developed and submitted and accepted it's close to 3 months at least it could be even more and by that time the kernel has advanced so you might have to do more changes and eventually you will converge and getting it accepted but that might mean almost a year has passed without any visible change to the management the management would say ok you said that you would mainline the driver but where is it and this keeps going on and on so there's no monetary incentive for the vendor to keep on doing that for a long time so everyone will have its own vendor tree, evil vendor tree and when a customer comes to the vendor he would just say ok use my tree but that tree is too far away from the mainline and afterwards the customer needs to do a lot of work to get to switch to the mainline and the customers really do want to switch to the mainline because that's where every new thing lands and you can use whatever new peripheral is there but you cannot easily do that on a vendor tree because you need to do all the back porting work or you can ask the vendor to do it for you but if you're not a really big company the vendor won't care but if we're talking about hobbyists I'm pretty sure that TI won't care about doing that work just for the hobbyist market and the final point there is that even huge companies have limited development resources so from a financial perspective it doesn't make sense for the vendor to keep his developers but making changes just to get something in the mainline he mostly cares about having them used in the new parts so he can sell more and make more money and that's it but on the other hand the community doesn't really like all kernel versions so who here has bought a development board and found out that its kernel was 6 years back so did you like it? Yes The thing is at the point in time that you bought the board and the amount of resources that the vendor needs or you need to get everything updated it's just too much and most people just stay with that vendor kernel forever even though they hate it they cannot do anything about it because all the driver support is there but since we're talking about just open source guys a lot of distribution just they wouldn't accept your board to be supported if it's not mainline I think Fedora is one of them and you know a big point of the Bigelbond was that you can use whatever distribution you want so while it was shipping with Unxtrum there is a port for Ubuntu but we couldn't get Fedora to include that in the regular builds just because it wasn't a mainline kernel and if you do anything if you do your own board and you want it supported by some kind of open source distribution most of the distribution wouldn't care as long as your board is on mainline and of course you understand that it's a good thing for you if you have your board supported on any big name distribution because it means less work for you and you can just point your customers download this Fedora version and it will work on your board and of course the community is an infinite so if you have to support 15,000 patches and keep them around basically no one is going to do it for you you have to pay them for it and finally it's just not fun you know if you do stuff for fun this is definitely not fun it's something for people that are getting paid to do it so what's the main point about device tree and why people are whining about it I think device tree technically doesn't have any big problems but it can be solved the technical problem is that there is no checking of the bindings so if you make a typo in your device tree you won't find out only after you try to put the kernel and it won't boot but that's pretty minor really it's something that you can work on the problem is that it was solved something different than what it is it was like something that would immediately solve the ARM kernel problems which is there's great many diversity in the ARM community there are so many different boards and it's really hard to support it device tree does help that it doesn't mean that it will immediately solve all your problems you have to do your you have to do considerable work to do it so the problem with the device tree is not really technical the transition was handled pretty poorly I don't know if anyone around here used to be a PowerPC developer so do you remember the transition from ArchPPC to ArchPPC that was handled pretty well but that's not something that happened on ARM instead of having an old ArchTree where stuff would continue to be supported the same way that it was I would try to move immediately to the new stuff and that doesn't really work it's just so hard and then we have some maintainer hostility because you do know that the ARM kernel maintainer doesn't use the device tree so the whole thing about moving to device tree is a few years old but we still have the main kernel maintainer they don't move to device tree they still work on their own platform and board based stuff so who's gonna we need to put our best people on that thing so that they can find the bugs and report them and get them fixed so if you're not using the stuff that you're telling other people to use how are you gonna fix it and finally it was really easy to do board support with board files because no one cared no one really cared what went in there you could do whatever you wanted in your own board file it would just pass a minimal review and you could do everything there but that's not the case with the device tree first of all there's no place where you can stick your driver or stick your stuff without anyone caring and secondly the device tree format is readable so someone doesn't have to be a kernel developer to figure out that this is not right so you can see bindings that are not really right but without knowing anything about the board it just doesn't feel right and oops what did we get by working with device tree well we lost a few months obviously but it actually works it's not something that is impossible to do and for our target market which was hardware hackers they can do all that stuff that I say here they can create a cape and they don't have to recompile the kernel for it they don't have to modify the kernel they don't really care about what the driver does they just can configure it by setting properties and the device tree overlay the device tree's syntax is a little bit weird but you can read it without really being a software engineer and we kind of did what the whole point of device tree was to support different boards with the same kernel image and we do the image that we see actually works on both the white and the black and all the peripherals work on both without making any changes and that's the last kernel that we used 8.3.13 and we only have about 750 patches on top of that which is much less than 15,000 so let's talk about it now so many patches outstanding for the big bone support most of those patches are driver patches they will end up in the main line when the subsystem kernels are pulled into the main line kernel so we had to pull those patches in so that the peripherals work but we don't really keep them around just for our own board they are TI patches that will eventually end up in there SPI up on the big bone black so the big bone black 3.12 or C with 60 patches gets you most of the way How many of those patches revert prior patches? Not for ourselves Ok The problem we talked about device 3 are the present work with the PowerPC? PowerPC is considerably easier because it's not as complicated as ARM ARM they do exist but when device 3 was done for PowerPC we didn't have this idea of device 3 as an ABI or that device 3 only describes hardware but we didn't really use it when we created it it was really more free form I didn't see anyone whining so much about device 3 on PowerPC we just did it it wasn't this much of a problem or are we planning to unify firmware API or whatever it is because today's device 3 maybe someone has come up with a great idea there are at least 3 versions but we know it's device 3 it's ACPI and it's also something called FEX but I'm not sure I'm going to use that it's a Chinese thing were you in Dave Hart's presentation about the Mino board? you know the answer probably it's going to be a unified firmware property access method you could either have an open firmware backend or an ACPI backend this is general Is that all going upstream? I'm going to repost them next week the thing is the device 3 overlay support will probably be easier to get in than the cape manager but I know that there are people that actually use that so it seems to work but we just need to push it the syntax might change but it's possible that other cape manager vendors can use the cape manager concept as a whole there's absolutely nothing big or bone specific so if you had a platform with the same I2C IEPROM access methods you could easily do that on whatever ARM platform or PowerPC platform whatever you want there's nothing big or bone specific but you could get another possibly simplified board file well device 3 is doing the work of the board files you cannot do what cape manager does with board files because it's completely dynamic at the moment that the board boots you don't even know what's connected but a firmware u-boot in our case doesn't even know what's connected on the cape connectors so it's a kernel that has to probe it considerably after the board init method has been called well in board generic it's a more general way to do the board files we can talk about that later yeah we did and I think there's more capable of answering that So I was born then bootloaders are evil everything and everything in the kernel we cannot replace bootloaders basically because they work with monthly hardware and then 2 years later at the bar street and we said oh we have this new board with even more things and they say move everything to the bootloader so we tried moving it to the bootloader but then you had to match your bootloader but you wake your kernel and that's how you work you don't have to match your kernel well but that doesn't work it's just you expect that everything will be perfect right from the start and that's not going to happen isn't it? nope well I can do it, if you can do it that's okay yes Well Well there's a big difference about your audience if your audiences are professionals they will be trained on working on your system that's okay maybe you can educate them to do that properly but if your audience is people that buy a development board for 50 bucks it's impossible to have them understand how to do that on your boot but you have considerable Linux and you boot experience so you end up with brick boards I'm saying for example the device tree before passing it to the kernel based on what's detected in the problem that's not something you leave with the customers that's something usual the customers make sure they have to do a bootloader and the kernel is booted but the thing is that means that everything that the customer is going to use is provided by you but one case is that the customer might want to create new boards new hardware In this case you can handle the case where somebody has a breadboard and they're plugging wires into the header they can have a device tree overlay for that breadboard and they actually can remove that device tree overlay make some changes, reload it without having to reboot at all We had it on a vehicle board and we had RMAs for people being unable to figure out how to edit a textile So that doesn't work out Russell King, the maintainer he cannot figure out how to refresh you on all his boards So even Russell King cannot figure out how to refresh a bootloader 90% of his users won't be able to and that is the problem we're facing If you ship with a bootloader and you do it 2 years ago people will be using that till the board dies and that's why I'm moving it to the bootloader if we can get everything working perfectly In one go for all future hardware then yes but the reality back seems different Well I think, I don't know if you follow the latest device tree thread and ARM Linux kernel Well there's a big master and Nicolas Peter said that you cannot hide complexity so if you have a really complex system eventually you have to do complex stuff to figure it out and make it work but we have a choice either we split things up and have some complexity in the firmware or instead of having a complicated firmware have a single firmware and then do everything in the kernel and I would prefer to do it in the kernel because I can fix the kernel I'm pretty sure I won't be able to fix a broken firmware easily or at all Ok there are people that Ok but I'm pretty sure people won't even sit with either uboot or barebox they might use their own bootloader which really isn't like barebox at all It's nothing, just boots, that's it The problem with the bootloader basically is that it's a boot time and we have very very many people tinkering on the big bones during runtime That's the biggest problem and whenever you put everything into one giant ttb block that gets parsed once they have to reboot over and over and over and over again and basically just judging from the support questions on booting things we see in hash deal and hash tanda once they get the system running keep them or make them keep it running never shut down again that's basically the bottom line And just on that we uncovered pretty a lot of bugs in the way that platform device removal works because up to now really it's impossible to remove a platform device after it's loaded but we found out that when we removed an overlay and we unregistered the platform device almost 90% of the drivers don't work correctly So that's another thing that we need to fix Ok you sir Ok so the overlay is a mechanism to augment running kernel's device tree with something else So let's say let's just forget about the big bone and everything and you have a kernel that's device tree and you connect something that brings out a new uR and you want this uR to be visible to Linux and applications You can load an overlay that just says insert this uR driver node in the running kernel's tree and apply it and it will be exactly the same as if you had that uR device node as part of the booting dTB and it will work exactly the same Yes We know because some both altera and xylings are thinking about it but they are thinking about it it doesn't mean that they are going to do it You mean like a very low to dT converter They will do it I'm pretty sure that's how they will do it because they have their tools and they generate So Is anyone trying to convert from platform device and board files to device tree right now or thinking about doing it? Okay Maybe it's easier at that point Okay


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