Okay, it's like this. Who gonna bring it to the table? Boss talk, who your girlfriend favorite? Boss talk, we gonna do it how you want it. Boss talk, yeah, everybody on it. Boss talk, it's a unique hustle. Boss talk, yeah, we came from the struggle. Boss talk, say you looking for the best? Boss talk, we ain't worried about the rest. Boss talk, yeah. Tell me who's hot, who's not? Who really on top, who got they on shopping?  You know it, nothing changed one bit, it's a unique. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique house. This is your boy, you see yo, with the lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica was going on.  Man, hold up, I done never been done it. You know what I'm saying? I gotta hear, she hear a man.  Taylor B is in the building. Is it the shade room, man? Yeah. You got the reputation, the shade room. They told me, they said, man, you know your show on the shade room. I say, what?  And then she said, I told her she could do it. It just came up to me. So I want to say, man, what's going on, man? Are we doing a good job over here, or does that mean you're doing good?  Everybody was sharing. And everybody wanted to know what happened, you know? And so I feel like we don't really see her speak out a lot. And so I feel like that was a good clip to share. Now, I want to go back because people need to know who this is. Yeah, we just skipped over some stuff, because they never met her yet. We did, but they didn't. Okay. Okay. So tell us a little bit about Taylor B. Growing up, were you from all of that shenanigans? Yeah, so I'm from Frisco. Well, I'm from Chicago originally. I grew up in Frisco, Texas. How long you been here compared to in Chicago? Yeah, I've been here way more long than I've been in Chicago. I was in Chicago when I was like eight. Okay. So, I mean, what? Go ahead. Siblings raised your mom and dad. I like to say, I don't have no siblings, so yeah. You're small. You're small.   You ain't running around with an attitude for no reason. I need to get that. That is princess, get everything you want. I feel like it's like both parents, like pretty even. Really, yeah. It's not even at all. I can tell you that.  That's what it is. No, no, dads never get, they just do. So she's saying it's even. That nigga on 130. Yeah, man. Yeah, daddy don't never get treated right.  You don't keep all that. When I was younger, I like, we give him socks and stuff. But like, the older I got, I made, like I got him a gun case recently. That's hard. That's hard. You know what I mean? So yeah. That's better. Yeah, it's better than the socks. Yeah. But then, but you know what though? Fathers, they know how to come to daddy and ask for all the money and then go to mama for something else. No, you keep the money and everything at the house. I don't have nothing. But it's still come to you for the money. For the card. Ain't the money no more. You know what I'm saying? You niggas taking the card now. I take both of my parents' money. No, when I was younger, now I got my own money. All right. Yeah. Now you should be giving them money. I tried like, I just took my mom to her birthdays in a couple weeks. And about a couple of months ago, I took her to a Mary J. Blash concert. Oh wow. She was a huge fan and she had never seen them. And she always used to take me to concerts. So it felt good to be able to like. That's the best part. Take her and it felt good. Man, so growing up, I mean, was it a thing where you was able to fit in or did you feel ostracized in any way? Going to school, did you feel like it was easy just flowing through life or was there challenges? I would say high school was pretty like cool for me. I was on the cheer team. I was like, you know, I was pretty known. I too. Yeah, I was pretty active in like other clubs, choir, DACA, all that stuff. But I would say college was hard. College was an adjustment because it was an environment I wasn't used to. I was in Oklahoma. I wasn't used to Oklahoma. What was it about Oklahoma that was so different? It's like something weird. Like they make you get in the car with them when they pull you over. Like you got to get in the car with the police officer. Like it was just some like in the college I went to they had like an abortion like set up and like pictures of babies like that have been gone through abortion and like trying to get people to like be pro-life or pro-choice, you know, like they want you to sign a petition. Where did they have that at the college? In the middle of the lawn in like this, like where the studio union and the library and all that was like it was every year. Like, So you were Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State. Damn. Yeah. What year was that? I graduated in 2015. Damn. Yeah. I mean, it was a great school, but there was some stuff that was just like, yeah, I was ready to go. Did you experience racism over there? I would say I experienced microaggressions.  I had somebody, I had a- Even being a female, cause I know that police usually hard on men and profile men more than the ladies. I feel like they didn't know who was in the car. I think they might have just saw a black person in the car. And so, yeah, they pulled me over. They checked my car. I've had someone, it was actually here where he pulled up next to me and was like, hey, we got the same car. And I was like, yeah. And he was just like, okay. And he pulled off. White guy? Yeah. And I was just like, that's weird. Yeah, shout out to the white guy. Like he don't expect you to have that type of car. Yeah, it was weird. It was really weird. Don't you think there's something to this year, nigga? Cause she got something in store. I mean, right here. God for to drop this blessing.  I'm in a helicopter. Next thing, next thing he gonna pull up, be like, how you got one of those? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, the thing, I just gotta ask you this. Cause I don't wanna get back to the shape of them. I'm headed right on back there. You know what I'm saying? I've asked a few people about you. Is it a thing or how do you, how do you even know if you're gonna get on there? Just got to be an interesting topic. I think it just depends on the individual teams and depends on what they're looking for. I don't feel like there's like a one for sure way to get on the shade room unless you go through advertising. Who makes the calls? As in like, as into what goes on shade room? Yeah, it depends on the team. So like it depends on if it's the website team, the shade room team, the teams team. I'm over the teams, but like still my individual editors are able to like pick and choose what content. It's just, they've learned the audience enough to know what they like and don't like. How is your audience compared to the shade room? Cause I know the shade room, like my daughter, she's 17. And when we told her that, oh yeah, we were on shade room teams, she's like, I don't be watching that.  I would think that that's where you would be. But she's on, she know everything that goes on the shade room, but not shade room teams. So what is the shade room compared to the shade room teams? I would say the biggest comparison to your point. It just skews a little bit younger. So like the teams is more of like the YouTubers, the influencers, celebrity kids, things like that. Where's- Like what age group? I would say like 18 to 24. That's a whole lot. Yeah. I guess my daughter just thinks she's older than what she really is. And some people, it just depends on what kind of content they into. There's some people that are younger that tend to maybe not watch the YouTubers and stuff like that. So, mm. I think you can't really scale it. I think it's some people that watch both of them. Yeah, that too. You see what I'm saying? So it's hard to really gauge it. Because shade room? Especially not on my daughter, because my daughter is different. My daughter, you see how I say that? She's a different type of person. Like yeah, you just never know. You want to get in there? She, I ain't gonna put a business out there. Boy, I could really blast you right now. Boy, I could tear you up, but I'm gonna let you make her. You're the home girl, be following us. I don't really know what's going on. But definitely, yeah, don't even be surprised at what she might do. So shade room, they mainly do celebrity stuff, right? I feel like it's a mix of content. If you look at the page, I mean, you will see roommates on there. You will see celebrities on there. I think it really just depends. Because that's what I'm trying to see. So do they ever post things that y'all would normally post sometimes? Or do you like not cross that barrier? We definitely cross promote. It depends on, like I said, it depends on who it is and what the content is. But my interview with Armand Warren, that was cross promoted on the main page. So yeah, it depends if it makes sense.  You know, that it has like a kind of incognito.   You ever think about it?  A lot of people Google. You see, you don't really hear Google. So you gotta, okay, now which one I'm pushing the button? You know, I'm nosy. You know, I'm full school too. Yeah. I know it's a lot of different ones. Well, who run the Facebook? Meadow. And see, she know all this because she's a job. But I'm just telling you how normal dude do I hear thinking about it. It tick tock still in China. You know, I'm over here like that.  But I'm just on that pushing buttons. Right. I'm not investigating. At some point, somebody calls, oh yeah, you got a team partner. I get it. But right now, I just like not knowing. It's a different place for people. It's not my job to know. I'm sure you probably if you Googled or YouTube. That's your thing. But search for a person who had gotten an interview who worked there, they probably spilled the beans and said, oh yeah, this is what goes on in the back end of Facebook and this and this. No, I don't think so. It had to be with somebody. Do you think they signed something to say that they can't talk about it? I just think in general, like people don't really get into the weeds that they company because like somebody, I mean, people be watching. So if you couldn't get into the weeds of what your company got going on and people might try to take you. Yeah, but it's one person.  Or just run to an employee, somebody they fired and they don't like them wrong. Oh my God, wrong Chinese guy. Oh my goodness. You know what I'm saying? He don't rent. You know what I'm saying? So what's the, what do you feel like the one of the, one of those defining moments since you've been with the showroom? Like something that sticks out to you that, that happened. That you can talk about. Of course, you know, y'all be so hushed.  So I've met him. What? Yeah, he actually came to the Dallas show. He had got off stage and gave me a hug when during this concert, like he shows so much love and like that's like a surreal moment. Cause it's somebody that is, like I said, in my top three. So that, that means a lot to me, you know. Yeah. Well, I wish you hadn't said that cause I'm going to ask you top three again. Cause they bought the first top three. But that's all right. We're still asking. Yeah. No, you can still ask me. It's probably changed a little bit. So I know Lucas is your number one. I mean, I don't have an order, but he's definitely in top three. Okay, who else? Wayne. And I'm going to have to get a little of the Dallas right now.  I'm not going to lie to you. Ty Harris? Yeah. Who is that? Oh, right. I don't know. I mean, I see a guy. Yeah. I think I know that guy. A little bit. I feel like. Ty, come on, man. Come on, man. Ty, come on, man. Come on up, baby. You know what I'm saying? Ty is here. He got his piano to tonight, y'all. He about to play a song. Are you playing a song? No, he did not know he was even going to be on here. He's just hanging out, man. But you can't come over here and not come on bars.  Push on, push on, push on. You've got to be. I tell him he's mine. What's going on? He knows he already know where he's coming from. Certain people can't. Oh, it's been something. I'd be like, just sit right back there until she get done. I do that. We like get fly. Well, I wanted to ask because since some of our viewers don't might not know, how did you get on to working with Shader Room? Yeah, so I was actually at TDJ's Ministries before I got to the Shader Room. And I had, went on LinkedIn and the job had been up for like three months that I was looking for. And it had like 300 applicants. And I was like, I told my recruiter, I was like, they probably already done with the process. I'm not even going to try. And she was just like. And was this your dream job? I would say in the social media realm, yeah. My end goal is to own a record label, but in the social media realm, yes. But. Are there any females who own a record label in? Well, there's only two record labels in Dallas right now. Right. And I don't think either one of them are females. I just want to go back to TDJ. You quit TDJ. I didn't quit. You know, this is my mind over here. So you quit TDJ, son, to go to the Shader Room. That doesn't say how does that sound, you know? I didn't quit. She just say, I'm going to jump right in, you know what? I gave TDJ's ministries four years of my, you know, dedication and helping build the platform and the team. And they showed nothing but love. And they still show love. I still can pull up and, you know, see the team and stuff like that and see what we've all like put together and created. So nothing but love, like I have nothing. I didn't quit. It was just like time for me to move on. So how long did it take for you to get on over there? You said 300 applicants. You didn't finish your story. Yeah, so I applied after my recruiter said if I didn't apply, she would. And about a week later, I got a call and when it comes up, it says the Shader Room. So I was like, this sounds like some spam. Yeah, I was like, this can't be real. And then, yeah, I would say it took about two weeks. It took about two weeks. And next thing you know, she is in the building. Over here quiet. I don't want to talk about anything just yet. But yeah, I got it. But we ain't gonna say that. I enjoyed you know, you can tell your spirit is right. That's what I go by energy. I appreciate that.  I appreciate that. I knew that, you know, you was a woman who loved her man. I remember that. I do. Loved her man. Oh, he's just starting and we've been, yeah. We were talking about that part. You know what I'm saying? So we, hey, Ty Harris is in the building man. What's going on man? What you been up to man? I mean, I know you, yeah, you been with Snoop Dogg and all kinds of stuff since you left here. I seen you, nigga. You didn't think I seen you? Nah, nah, I know it's all fair. It's all fair. I see you too, nigga. Yeah, I see the plaques come in and everything. Yeah, they coming. They definitely coming. No man, I just been, you know, working and praying. That's all man. So just every chance I get, talk to the Lord, every chance I get, keep working. That's all I do. The Snoop Dogg thing was crazy. How did you even end up with Snoop and just do it? And how many shows did you do with him? Like y'all did a tour or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a couple of legs. Oh, I can't even remember how many, but definitely a couple of legs. We did the Midwest leg, which was amazing. Shout out Sioux Falls, South Dakota. That was my first time ever being in front of, how many was it, 15, 18,000? I can't remember, but oh man, they showed me so much love. I got up there and I had my ears in for the first time. Really couldn't hear nobody. And I asked the crowd if they knew anything about food stamps, 10,000 plus white people scream to the top of their lungs when I asked them about food stamps. And I was like, it really changed my perspective on a lot of things because I thought black people was the only people on food stamps.  They were amazing. Man, yeah, that was amazing. The whole Midwest leg was just amazing for me. Wow. For sure. I just, did Snoogie that, hey, what's up nephew? Y'all on God. No, man, that was crazy too. That was surreal in itself as well. That's up there with meeting Ice Cube. That's up there and I got to perform before them while I got to open up for both of them. That's crazy. Like all that, even Warren G, the whole West Coast, like it was amazing, bro. Man. It was amazing. So yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I didn't get to make the show, I didn't get no tickets or nothing. So, okay. Everybody was like, dang, when you gonna go, I said, well, he was on the show, that don't mean I get to go with him. Nobody ain't called me yet. I was waiting by the phone when I said. Nobody ain't called me, but I know I read, I said, baby, did anybody come? She said, nah, they didn't call her. Nah, nah, look, next time I got you. Because this time, the first time, it was hard to give my big brother in.  I'm waiting, I'm saying, man, who's gonna buy the tickets? We just fly up there whenever he told us we can come on that night, you know, shout out to Bubba Dub, who always invited us to all the stuff and all these other niggas in last place. Come on, man. Come on, man. I'm just kidding. So, that's hard, man.  E-40 gave me too much game. Like, we was in the studio for a minute, like all night, one night. He gave me so much game on a lot of things, on everything, like. Did he know you was with Snoop on too? He didn't know, he didn't know. Really? I met 44, I met Snoop.  Yeah, yeah, totally. Nah, E-40 definitely gives me a lot of game on a lot of things I ain't know nothing about. So, E-40 definitely gave me a lot of game. And one other person that don't know about it, give a lot of credit to, and homegrown in Dallas, is D'Rose, he gave me a lot of game as well. D'Rose, man, you wanna do it. You rock with him too? I forgot, yeah, y'all can do it. Yeah, that's how I got my stand. I can't believe y'all, y'all showed a new watch for show, cause him and Cash and all them. Yeah, Cash, too. They all partners. Yeah, definitely.  He don't play that. No, the dude that he was talking about early. You know he don't even know Cash, you know he don't even know Cash. No, yeah, we both know Cash. Yeah, he know Cash. Yeah, I know Cash like motherfuckers. Yeah, that's the homie. For real? We talking about the same Cash. Yeah, he's Mike. Mike is Faith. Why did it just go off? You talked it out.  It's cause his voice so deep. Damn, he did that. You brought the whole back on. Yeah, you know, that's just it. We got to get that other Mike over, too. Man, you know, I just want to say, man, man, thank you guys, man. Cause you guys are, you and Dallas and, and we need all like the other guys to the content is so, you know, we, he said something earlier, gone to music when he was on here. Cause I said, man, what, how do you think the music doing in Dallas? He said, we just got to keep working and be consistent. And I agree with that. Cause when you look at it from that perspective, he's like, cause I'm like, where's this big hit at? But the consistency is going to pay off. And I agree with that. And people look at Dallas and when they see the music, you don't think we got a lot of big hits? I feel like having the right team matters though. You talking about within the last year? And last year? Okay. I see Dallas getting spoiled now. We're getting spoiled now. Because of that. No, that one time, I'm looking at the last, with me coming into this game, the biggest, the bigger hits, the, I mean, of course you got. Almost two years. So within the past three years. Yeah, but you had, you had outside.  That's what I said, about 2022 to your point.  Give me, you see what I'm saying? Okay, so. But then you got, you got. Those came out in what? 2021? Post Malone, them too though, but you can't count them. 2020, I was before that. You can't count that in here. I see where you trying to go. You try and take this back. I mean, we can really do it though. Britney Spears and what's a man, what's a man? We can do all that. We can do all that. I mean, you can't talk about cash page and I think we ain't got nothing brewing. She hold it. Oh man, she's rolling live. She hold it. Oh man, America, all kinds of. She can't go anywhere right now. She hold it. Come on, man. I can't lie, we got it, but do we embrace it? That's another thing. Do we really give it the credit and the support that it deserves? Dallas don't. But you see what I'm saying? Yeah. Oh, are you real? But now, you know, that's, I liked the way she came across and told the truth. See, the truth will set you free. It'll make you miserable at first, but it'll set you free. For sure. I feel like Dallas supports who they want to support sometimes. She from Chicago too, don't forget that. I'm going to rip the city all day. When she was eight. Yeah, all day. Megan Stallion, San Antonio. I don't know her. You know. I don't know her, I don't know where she from. According to, according to the call, I don't know where she from either. But it's, I don't know if I was talking one on one, baby.  So. Wait, you actually don't know the full story. I don't. I don't. How does he not know the full story? He knows how we. 50% of the story. Right. He knows how we linked like from a social media perspective, but like, well maybe we know two different stories. Okay, tell your story first. I interviewed Cash for TSR teams and I asked her, her favorite artist in Dallas and she had said Ty. My dog. And I had seen Ty, but like I hadn't really tapped into him for real for real. And so when I actually like tapped into his music and like I hit him up and told him like, I had like really messed like really liked his music and I wanted to get him on my podcast. And I feel like that's the, that's the part. I know. What part do you know? So I ain't know about that. You right. About to say. You ain't know about that. I didn't know about that. Shut our cash page. See his penis. See his penis.  When you talk, I hear that song. It's a song when you be talking on it for a second. What's that? It's a song, man. Which one is that? I don't want to be no street nigga. It might. I wasn't talking on that one. That was somebody totally different. No, no, no. It might be the one with, it might be blood brothers. It's just a conversation that's all. One of them things. One of them things. Yeah. The boy got a nice voice, you know? It sounded like a smaller version of Big X to Plug, around this house. What's up? Big X to Plug, hard to. That's even boys and Dbz, oh yeah. He sit right there, just like, what's up, brother? You know, I thought about it. I'm like, what the hell, brother? My mother, their voices be so deep. They bringing back D-voice music right now. And I'm wrong with that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Now, shut our cash page, though, because that's one of the only people out there. She stays showing love.  Like, cash person. She was just in town not too long ago. Yeah, with her home commander. I talked to her people, too. I was gonna get over it, but we had just come from out of town. We'd be so busy, bro. Hey, just to Plug, she gonna be back in town for a tour, so. When? February 1st. Okay, well, you gotta hook that up. I ain't even think I'm supposed to talk about it. She just posted it. Oh, okay, man. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, she's coming back. You know, I'm the secret D-boy. I'm not a secret D-boy. Oh, buddy, that's even to the, oh, I think it's right there, oh, yeah. I'm just chilling. I'm chilling, man, I don't know, so. Shut our cash page, though. So, how does the podcast work for you? I mean, how did you even get started podcasting? What's the name of it again? Give me that plug.  Ooh, what is that? I gotta check it out. Come up with that name. You know what? Like I said, I started it back in 2017, and so I was, I had got, just got in my relationship, and I realized, like, I was like, what can I call my podcast? Like we talk about relationships, and I realized, like, I dealt with a lot of fuckboys in my life, and I just felt like it was fitting. And so, we did the podcast for about two years, had great people come be him, and me. Shout out to Be Man. It's Lil' Be Man, KBZO came through, and just, you know, a whole bunch of, you know, Dallas just really, really showed love, but we didn't have that video component, which I felt like we really needed. It wasn't really set up like that. We did it on DFWRIRadio.com, and then, like, I got pregnant, and then my other host got pregnant, and then the other two wanted to focus on their careers, so we just stopped. It was just too much. It's contagious, you know, pregnancy is contagious. Yeah, no, seriously. It just got to a point where we were just like, we can't do this right now. And so, I actually had someone call me and was like, hey, somebody wants to, like, take your brand and do it themselves.  Like, you know, this actually gave me the push that I needed to start this back up. I knew I wouldn't be able to do it with the original host, so I just, I found some new hosts, and shout out to TraGy, shout out to Jay, shout out to Thomas and our boy Juice. They've been really... So there's five of them? It's four hosts, and then Juice is our photographer. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we've been, it's more like a talk show now, though, really, because the way it's set up, it's not really, like, relaxed like this. It's, I mean, it's relaxed, but like... Damn, we relaxed, ain't we? Yeah, like, up and down. I was like, it's relaxed, it's chill, but it's also like... None of that, babe. It's produced.  And, like, the chairs set up and, like, you know, stuff like that. Y'all ain't that professional, it's hell. Yeah. They did, and that whole, we called for you, and... Yeah. So who came up with that idea of switching it up like that? So we just, we had a plug of someone who knew of a space to check out, and we just checked it out, and I was like, they were like, well, it's not as, you know, chill as you wanted it. And I was like, but that's the goal, is to do something like a talk show. So let's do it. So that's what we did, and we wanted to see if it worked and it vibed, and we were still able to be ourselves and not be stuffy, and Chai's been on the show here. No podcast. Man, that's super dope. You know what I mean? Got a TV, say, we got over here. See how you gon' be... Y'all over here, y'all over S-L-I-N, gunna know, y'all, y'all, y'all, the bougie hood. You know what I'm saying? It's two sides to every hood. It's messing up again, ain't it? A bowser. I don't, I can't hear it. Sounds good. Now it comes back, it only happens to me. No, it's back on. It's wild, man. It only happens to me. That's all right, it gon' be gone tomorrow.  No, it's running though, it's running up.  So you said you wanted to do a label. Are you taking steps to start that label? So right now, I'm going back into PR. So I have some clients that I am about to start representing, building those relationships. I feel like that's first and key to me doing the next steps. And then yeah, right now I just wanna build my contact list and build my relationships and kinda see what goes from there. But you know, LLC and all that, I got it, but it's just waiting on. Are you one of those that do vision boards and say, okay, by 2024, I'm gonna have this and da-da-da-da? I feel like I'm my vision board. Okay. I feel like, well, I just think of it in my head and I'm like, I'm gonna do that. Okay. Yeah. I've done vision boards, like, it's not something that is fun for me. Yeah. It's what, but some people make it look so good when they show it. They make it look so good. It looks so good. But when you try to do it, you like, why is it? It's not for everyone. It's not for me. Well, I'm gonna be honest with you.  I do what I do. Yeah, that's what I say. Yeah, I just go for it. When I think of it, I go for it. And I'm good at it too. Yeah. I don't know if I'm really to y'all, but to me, I'm good at it. That's where you gotta feel me. Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be.  What am I getting when I go to the teams? What am I getting? Like I said, it's just the daily updates on like celebrity news, YouTubers, influencers. It skews younger because it is the teams. I would say Gen Z-centric content. Yeah. Do they jump in your inbox when they say, man, why you post that? Anybody ever jump in? You all ignore them, don't you? I never ran into it. I never ran into it. Y'all don't get crazy comments or crazy inboxes. I mean, I haven't seen anything super, super crazy. I mean, like for the most part, I find people to be pretty cool, honestly. And then even the people that DM me personally, like I haven't had any crazy situations. That's hard. So what do you, how long do you plan on, where you taking this to?  I just, I just want to like, I just want to focus on my podcast. I want to build my clientele for PR. For sure. It's working. Oh, you will mess it up. You feel so.  But, and my 30th is coming up. Okay.  We got a headliner right here that's gonna pull up. And I've been working with the nonprofit to try to create a program for college women, black women in college. So that in PWIs and HBCUs, so that when they go through a mental health crisis, they are set up with the right tools instead of, like, I don't feel like they're all, yeah. Cause how bad is mental illness? Because even like, you know, everybody's seeing it on the news right now about Twitch, Rest in Peace, you know, cause on social media and everything, he look like he's happy, everything is fine, whatever he got his wife, everything is great.  Yeah. Like, I don't know what he was struggling with, you know what I mean?  And so I feel like people just need to check on their people.  I hate that it happened right before Christmas. You know what I mean? I hate that his kids have to have that memory of Christmas with him. It's really sad. Even his wife having to explain that to their kids, I have a three-year-old like I couldn't even imagine. You know what I mean? So just prayers because it's, people are surprised about Twitch, but there's probably so many of their favorite celebrities dealing with that same thing right now. But the thing is that, okay, cause I know people who've dealt with depression and still even maybe going through it. And what I know about people is that no matter if you check on them, people don't let you in all the time. It could be your best friend. It could be somebody who you always talk to. Some people when you're depressed, you want to be left alone. You're not going to answer your phone even if you're not going to the door. You just want to be, and even if you do enter the door, you're not going to tell them what's going on if you don't want to. You understand what I mean? I had somebody that, it was similar to that. Like they didn't want to be bothered. They didn't want to text. They didn't want, we just like left stuff at their door. Like we still thinking about you. You know what I mean?   Sometimes like, you know, a phone call in a text is not enough.  Sometimes you got to pull up multiple times because sometimes people just, they don't see that people there for them. And they're like, oh, it's just a text. It's just, you know, it's just a phone call, but like sometimes you got to be in their face. And also the pandemic took people to some dark places. That isolation was no joke for some people. And I'm going to always put God in it because for the main fact that, and I'm going off of this awful, people that I've dealt with. And no matter how much you give advice and you try to talk to people because you know that they're going through something cause you know that's not them, the regular them of how they normally are.  And when you care about somebody, you want them to just snap out of it. You want them to come right back. But you have to realize that everything works in God's time. So you can't get stressed and depressed yourself over somebody else not doing what they, cause it can bring the other person into depression as well, because especially when you love somebody and imagine his wife, this is not just a random thing that just happened. I guarantee you he's been going through depression and going through different things. And she might could not have reached him, you know? And her self could be going through something because of him, you know what I mean? We don't know what people go through. And when you love somebody, it hurts you to see them going through certain things and it can bring you down as well. But I always tell people, just say what you need to say and do what you need to do for that person. When it's time for them to snap out of it, if they ever snap out of it, they're gonna remember your words. They're gonna remember, yeah. You know what I mean? You just really don't know what their business was. Exactly. You don't know. What they going through. You don't know what the heck that family was going through. You don't know what him and her were going through. Right. You don't know, we just talking because you don't know what goes on inside somebody's but they know. Yeah. I'm being real. It ain't like he just all of a sudden, the day just walked out. I think things are, it's a calculator. I mean, you think he could hide it from her and the kids? All I'm saying is we don't know. Is it a possibility? You know what I'm saying? We don't know. I think black men, sometimes a lot of weight is put on their shoulders, you know what I mean? It's a possibility. So they feel like, what? You look on his face, that's why you laugh. Black men. Yeah.  I don't need you to explain. No, no, no, no. Wait a minute. No, I'm in the sense of like. What's up, step up baby. No. No, I just mean in the sense of like. I'm just noticing what you're saying. I feel like sometimes we expect our black men to be invincible. We expect them to do so much.  That's a whole other conversation but since we're talking about Twitch, I feel like, and again, I don't know his situation but I do feel like we kind of, we don't really listen when they might be asking for help because it doesn't, they might not say help. And I think that stems from men feel like I got to be a man. Right.  I shouldn't be crying on your shoulder. You know, type of thing. I shouldn't be opening up and saying, I'm talking about feelings. They're laughing because. Go ahead and say what you need to say. Your mic out again. That's what I'm saying. It happens in God's time.  I'm just keeping my mouth shut. No, it's all good. Y'all tell us about how to. Put your mic down. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that's why we laugh. Cause that's usually what happens. No, but they, y'all coming from, am I on? Yeah, you on. Y'all coming from the perspective of watching. So it's the outside end, the exterior looking in. So you know, I don't think, I don't think y'all, I don't think we, we're not going to let y'all in. I don't think so. Some of us might. I don't think so either. No, I'm not for real. But then if you don't, it can go to the point where. Damn, if we don't. No, but if you don't, I understand where you say damn if you do, because then women, some women will take it and use it against you. Not all, but some women do use it against you. But, but if you don't, it can happen where all of that build up and you feel like everything you have to carry on your own and it can lead to something like what just happened to him. Okay. So let me say this, let me ask this. If you are witnessing a black man going through something stressful, this is gone. I'm gonna use the A word real quick and I'm not talking directly to you. I'm talking to everybody out there in YouTube laying watching this. What A word? The A word is accountability.  I know. See, that's the problem right there. Mind set.  It's whatever. See, I hate to do it to you, but I'm gonna do it. You're not asking me, you're not asking me. Amen. You're not asking me.  Do you look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, am I a problem? Is there anything that I can do to help? Or why he going through it? Are you one of the people that says, snap out of it. You're acting weak. You're sassy. I've been here. I've been seeing these words a lot and on. See, I'm a mental health nigga. I'm a mental health advocate. I go to churches all the time. I talk about it all the time. So, you know, I see the repetition thing amongst our people, especially our people, when it comes to the mental health thing.  This is the first time I've talked about it in a while. And I see a lot of the, when a man has something to say, it's not taking the right way or it's taking the wrong way or it's not even taking serious. And, you know, personally, I see a lot of people close to me go through it, come home and you know that black man, he gonna stay in the car after work for about 30 minutes or he gonna stay on that toilet for about 45 minutes. What you doing in there? You texting the mother, bitches? No.   I ain't gonna even be with you. And then that ends up being a whole another deal. So it's more about, I think, being considerate of everyone's feelings.  That's just human nature. And you know, from a woman, like I can't talk from anybody else's perspective, I can only speak from mine. So whenever a man is going through it or you see them going through it, especially if you didn't just have an argument and you know that the explanation is why he looked like that is because y'all just got into it. But he looks stressed or whatever and you say, you know, what's wrong? But some men won't tell you what's wrong because they feel like I'll deal with it. It's on me, I'll figure it out.  And be like, okay, at least I know it's not me, but what can I do to make you happy?  Most men don't tell you. What you got? Do you have something you need to say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not really. Not really.  I'm gonna let y'all keep on, you know, living. I mean, I think you don't resolve what mental illness do, but it's really just, it's just problems. It's lifestyles, come on, man. We've changed and fancied it up to word and we think we got a somewhere, but it's really just life, man.  So I'm not gonna even go there with y'all most of the time, when you do try to do right and you do the right thing and a lot of times that looks boring. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. People be more excited, man. Me and her married for 20 years. You know what I'm saying? You gotta switch it up. You gotta figure out ways to keep it exciting, keep it going and just being a man that love God sometimes ain't enough. I'm being real. Yeah. That's some real. Well, that's hard right there. But I also wonder why. It's hard, yeah. Man, that's hard, man. I'm the bar, yeah. But do you think a lot of these will be solved with black men? Like if they don't want to talk to their wives and they don't want to talk to their homeboys or whatever, like a lot of them still don't want to talk to a therapist either. Yeah, a therapist slept on. Well, you can talk to your, who's a therapist first of all? I mean like a licensed counselor and therapist. I've never talked to a licensed counselor. Right, that's what I'm saying. I don't need one. I ain't got no problems like that. You say that, but once you talk to them you might realize you got some stuff that you want to talk about. I talk to God. I'm gonna be real with you. God too. I don't go by that. I don't feel like they gotta be mutually exclusive. You can do both. I feel like for me, I can dump with God and prayer and I have a relationship that I don't think a counselor could even, God is my counselor. And there's been things where, I've been through a lot. So it's a difference for me where I know what he did for me. And if you don't even know what you said they're looking at, you know what I'm saying? So I don't think no, I don't think no man could have done it. I feel like you need both though. That's your feeling. Right. No, I'm just saying that. Because everybody's different for different folks. Every individual is different.  Everybody's different. So when you, and what we do is a lot of time we put things in a box. So if we think if it works this way for one, it works this way for all, it's not like that. That's true. So I really don't, I don't never tell nobody what to do. Yeah, well for everybody out there in YouTube land, it's a few things.  That's real. That's why I rap.  There's like, you say therapy, somebody need to work out, somebody need to go a worse route.  And you know, I just put all my problems in that pussy. That's awesome thing? I think it, like I said, I think it depends. It just takes out the frustration for that moment and then come back to reality. I think it's all camera waves. It's all camera waves. It's like, everybody's different. Even counseling, some people that I spoke to who have went to counseling didn't work out good for. And I've asked them, I said, what do you get out of counseling? Do they give you like practices, feedback, you know, exercise or whatever? Some people, they get that. But some people say, it's just somebody to talk to. Like it's without being a friend. It's just knowing that this person legally cannot go and tell my business compared to you telling to a friend, they might go social media, tell your business, do this, do that, whatever. Go into a therapist. They just go to the dump everything and how they feel. It was a little girl over here, that girl that was on here said that she kept talking, really living the same thing over and over again without their license therapist. You know what I'm saying? But I would say therapy is like finding the therapist like dating because like no, no reason I'm being for real because like sometimes that therapist don't work for you. And like, I found therapists that did not work for me and they did not give me what I needed. And I had to find a therapist that worked. So sometimes you got to I'm not saying you have to go to therapist, but if you're looking for a therapist, that first person might not work out. I've tried a therapist before. And? Let's go see it. Um, you really want to go there? Yeah, and? I did bring that out of my mouth.   You got me, I'll tell you. I went to a CBT doctor, the cognitive behavioral therapy. Okay. Okay. Um, and I was on two mood stabilizers. I was on Syracuse and Selexa, the thing they be saying Kanye on. I was on that. A Lexa pro con stuff. And I went for about a month and I thought everything was cool. It was good. Everything was good. But I realized I stopped making music. And another thing that happened that upset me.  And boom, when it was time to get when it was time to go there, it was time to when the lightning struck and the thunder clapped. I'm like, yeah, it's time to handle my business, right?  Dig didn't get hard. No, because it doesn't matter to me. I went back to my CBT doctor. I told him what happened. He said, well, that's the part of the, the, the medication. And at that moment, I knew. You weren't comfortable. I wouldn't feel to be on that motherfucking medication.   I ain't, I ain't going to care for my niggas. So that was just it. I just been documenting my feelings. I was just put this in the music.  That works for you. No, for sure. So. We're going to talk about that a little bit more later. It's all good. It's all good. Like if I went through it and somebody else going through it and they feel like this is not the right because it's niggas out here killing theyself. It's women out here killing theyself. They don't know what, you know, and I understand the mental health thing. Like I understand and maybe if I, even if I don't understand and I still want to be in a fight, you know what I'm saying? Because I have some, I have some classmates that lost their life to suicide. Yeah. I have some, some friends, some rapper homies. Yeah.  Just like they say, when you're down, the only way you can come after being down is up. It has to come back up. It might take a year, might take two years. Nobody knows how long, but you got to come back up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like I said, it's something that everybody faces, even. Everybody. Everybody. People been killing. They said, since before y'all was born, bro, I've been seeing this, man. Facts.  Well, they didn't go to counseling. But some of them did. Yeah. Yeah. It happens. It's just you have to. I'm not saying that counseling is a fix. Like a fix it. Like, you know what I mean? No, I just say that you just got it, man. You better be putting God on your table. I'm telling you right now. Out of curiosity, which I don't know if anybody knows the answer to this. But how many people who have actually committed suicide actually was going to counseling? I don't know. You know what I mean? Who was actually getting help. Man, I think it's life, man. I feel like I know a few. I ain't going to tell you business, but I know a few for so. Oh, so they have been. So they went to counseling. I know a few of them. And they still. OK, that's just a part of man. Life is something else. It does. It hands you and you just got to go with it.  It gets heavy. Your mind is where the problem starts. OK. If you really want to be real, it starts with the mind. You know, everything starts. You start thinking things up. You start creating images.  Satan starts with the mind. I'm just going to be right. I don't want to go there with y'all. But I'm telling you, when you start making it something else, then you can do that on your own. I just know the battle is very spiritual. And you better be ready to fight. But you have to just recognize it. You have to recognize that who's messing with your mind. But you won't ever do that if you're trying to figure it out through all these different avenues. But that's for me. I can't say what's for everybody else. That's the whole game. Everybody want to put their situation on somebody else. And I think that's weird, man. Everybody's different. Everybody. You come up in these homes, your mama's spaw you. You don't have your daddy. Your daddy pass away. All this stuff is going on. And we saying, you need to do this. Come on. I was talking about that. You ain't got the answers. But I was talking about that. But we were talking about that earlier. I was talking about that earlier, how people go through traumatic situations in their life, whether, say, music deal. Oh, I was the one who should have gotten that deal. But he stole that from me. And he got the deal and he big now, whatever. And all of a sudden, now you carrying all of that hate and frustration and stuff like that. That it's like, it's like, you can't, you don't know how to move on, right? You know what I mean? You don't know how to function. You haven't been able to, I'm like, if, if. And to me, I'm just talking about that situation, but you can relate that situation to anything. Yeah. And it can be, I feel like everybody gets hold, though. Like, I feel like everybody has something.  Like, sometimes stuff happened because God trying to remove you from that situation completely and you need a wake up call. Right. And don't blame other peoples for your downfall. Turn around and, and come back up. If you did it once before, you can do it again. You understand what I mean? That's how I look at everything. Yeah. Well, that's how I look at everything right here. Yeah. That's how I'm going to be looking at everything from now on too. You know, I think a lot of time we have changed the way that life itself, that was some rules given. And I think a lot of times the rules have been broken. I just put it like that. And when the rules get broken, people start changing the way things are. And then they wonder what's going wrong. Why you don't want to go there? I can take it. I feel like you want to go there, but you're trying not to go there. I know I want you to go there. But I'm not going to do that. Because we, it ain't going to be enough time. But I'm just telling you, there's a lot going on with people changing things. Yeah. To make it the way, yeah. It's the way you want it. Spiritual warfare. Do it the way you want to do it. And yeah, I'm going to let you ride with that. But over here, we're going to do it this way. If you want to ride with me, get in the car. Close the door behind you. Put your seatbelt on. Thanks. Real talk. That's cold. So check it, man. Hey, man, thank you for coming on the show.  Well, I shut that hole down. Thank you for coming on the show. Ty Harris, man. Taylor B in the building is going down. I'm talking about, man, thank y'all for Boss Talk 101, man. This more likely is, yeah, it's going to be talked about a lot of the millialnesses that was talked about on here. Wouldn't mean. You see how he said that? You see how he said that? Right there.  Right there. Check it, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. I do want to plug real quick. My guy, he got. What y'all didn't say nothing. Hey, hey, hey, my guy. I've been shut this whole day. Wait, wait, hold on. He got a video dropping next month. Oh, for sure. Hey, we're going to plug that in real quick. Probability dropping in January. January when? January. January. We don't got to release it. January question, Mark, 2023. Did she plug to the end? Who was going? Is it an album or is it a record? I already dropped my project. I dropped a project called Thailand Elba Pakni in probably October. That shit's so hard. Thailand Elba Pakni, man. I know it's hard to pronounce, but Elba Pakni just spelled incapable backwards. And that's what it is. One side is a love story.   And I will probably be dropping the second one. No way. Yeah, we're going to, we, anyways.  He's trying to drop his like, I'm like, we got it. Anyways, but yeah. If you a fan of asphalt and concrete and beg and plead, it's on that, it's on that album. Asphalt and concrete beg and plead. And I think a lot of people like emotionally unavailable. Emotionally. Lovers to let the beat. Lovers to let the, the potential. Y'all too, like like, y'all really running down some business together. You must be fizzling in and out of drugs. Yeah, I was saying, I was saying, y'all working together too. Y'all are my big sister, man. There's something going on here. I just say that you already, you already, she going to do all of it right now. I'm going to take off some clients. Hey, what up, man? I'm the artist, and Claire is trying to start. You are her client. I'm, I'm, I'm there. That's my dog for sure. Man, well, I'm going to do this again. Check it, man. Spent another great segment of Boss Talk 101.  And we out.


We have Ben Gordon talking about best practices for formal mentorship program. Ben is Fedora's program manager But does at least 10,000 different things because he is three parts in a trench coat I'll pass it on to you then. I believe this is great. Hi Thank you, Vipple, and I want to thank all the other organizers and volunteers who made this happen I know this is something we've talked about in Fedora for a long time I'd also like to give a special shout out to Mike McGrath for his keynote yesterday Which caused me to go back and edit some additional content into my slides. So thanks for your leadership there, Mike Usually when I give a talk, I like to start off with some housekeeping. So we'll do that here You see my pronouns the license if you have kind things to say about the talk There's my Twitter handle. If you have unkind things to say you're welcome to keep those to yourself I hope we have time for lots of questions and interactions, but I would like to keep questions at the end Just so we can kind of get through it And of course the disclaimer here is that I am not an expert. I have done I've participated in a lot of mentoring programs formally as a mentor and as a mentee This is a collection of the things that I found that work really well I have not put a lot of academic study into it And I'm not necessarily the best at practicing these sometimes it's a little aspirational The talk was sort of the title was sort of given to me I might have said okayist practices for formal mentorship programs the word best practices always puts on a lot of pressure But here we go. Let's get into it. So I wanted to start it out with a few principles These are not really things that you can act on exactly just things to keep in mind As you're participating as a mentor in a mentoring program and the thing that has been most important to me Is that it's not about you as the mentor? I always tell my mentees like look if our meetings are you just sitting there staring blankly at me and me staring They're blankly back at you because that's what you need out of the meeting. That's what we'll do So You're you have to be flexible and meet what your mentee needs from you You're not there to shape them into a smaller version of you which I think most people don't do that intentionally You know, they're trying to be like, oh, here's the things that you can emulate from my success but your mentee is a different person and It's tempting a lot of times to try to make them into You but smaller But that's not how really it works and You don't have to know everything that your mentee needs from you But you should be able to find the resources for them get them connected to the right information Sometimes it's just that you've got more experience doing Google or Bing or duck. Go or you know, whatever search is And so you just know how to find the thing that they've spent some time looking for One thing one story I like to tell in the it's not about you framing is I had a mentor or mentee in red hats mentorship program and He was pretty excited. You know, he was fairly early in his career. He wanted to build his reputation internally He wanted to really make a name for himself Both in red hat and out in the community that he worked in And so as we talked a little bit I was like, hey, are you interested in like writing articles for open source calm? Because that's something I have a lot of experience with and I think I'm actually pretty good at and if that's interesting to you Then I can really be a good help with you for that and he said yes He was really excited about it. So for our first few meetings, we started working through like, all right What are you going to talk about? How are you going to explain it? You know, what message are you trying to convey some of the basics of, you know, writing articles for a website? And that was in early 2020 and So, you know what comes next, right? The pandemic happened And all of a sudden everybody's sent home basically just sort of trapped in their their little houses and this gentleman in particular What was living in the Boston area? But his he was from the Middle East and so most of his family was an ocean plus away And he had no opportunity to see them and granted it wasn't like he was going home every weekend But all of a sudden it seemed a lot more stark, you know, he'd only been in the US for a few years He had some friends but not, you know, didn't have a well-established social network and he was scared And we were all scared but I think for him it just felt a little more acute because All the things he used to do he couldn't do anymore And he had no like no safety net around him And so basically the last few months of our mentorship cycle was Me being sort of a therapist for him and I'm not a licensed therapist and I wasn't pretending to be But basically he just needed that reassurance that it's going to be okay Um, and I still you know, he I don't think he wrote another word on for the articles We were trying to get done And we were both okay with that because that's what he needed at the time You also need to trust your mentee Um People don't like having somebody hover over them I think it's really important because meant, you know being um Having a mentor is supposed to be a learning experience That you give them some space to go out and learn and you know make the mistakes and figure things out for their own So let them ask for help But also you need to notice when they're struggling and then step in and be like hey, it looks like you need some help um because some people Especially if they're new to a community or they're you know fairly earlier in their careers They just feel really nervous about asking for help Because they feel like that means they don't belong or that they're not good enough Which we all know is completely untrue But it's scary to just be there and publicly saying I don't know what i'm doing. Please help me I had a failure with that with um, it was actually a direct report not a mentee in a company I used to work at he Was good enough at Making me think that he had a handle on things. I just left him alone. We were a very small company We were all overworked. So I was focusing on the stuff I needed to get done and I figured he'd come to me when he needed help And then we go back later. It's like, oh you spent four hours on this It would have taken me 15 because I basically I could had enough experience where I could look at it and say Oh, yes, I know the path to take maybe Give yourself half an hour or an hour on something and if you aren't making actual progress Like if you're not getting a different error message now then come to help and so establishing that sort of you know That trigger mechanism for Hey, this is when you need help and also having me Just sort of checking in on his work. Everyone's well not all the time It's just it's a hard balance that you have to strike Speaking of balances, there is a power imbalance Um, you know an open source projects by and large we're all peers You know, I have a fancy important title And certain responsibilities within the community, but I also can't make anyone do anything Right. We're all equals essentially But just because we're equals on paper that doesn't mean That there aren't relationship dynamics, you know, some people have just a ton of experience in the community and You know, they're well known and people like oh, I know who so and so is and they're really cool And I wish I could be like them that creates a power imbalance And when you have a mentor mentee relationship that also creates a power imbalance You might not perceive it And your mentee might not even be aware of perceiving it, but it's there And it's important to be aware of it You have to create a safe space for your mentee and mike touched on this in his keynote But if you didn't watch that video, I want to repeat some of that here You know, first of all, I I almost hate having to say it But I have to say it like if your project has a code of conduct like fedora does You absolutely need to follow the code of conduct Like that's non-negotiable But it's also important that your mentee can trust you Um, just in the way the same way I was talking about you need to trust your mentee Your mentee has to be able to trust that if they tell you something about A bad experience they're having Um That doesn't rise to a code of conduct issue or whatever, especially You know, if there's a relationship like a formal relationship between your mentee and the person they're talking about like You're not going to go up like so so and so told me that you know, like that's not okay They have to know that the things they tell you unless they are, you know, illegal or You know unethical or you know things like that like They need to be able to confide in you Um You need to offer suggestions and not commands and this one is really hard to because in a global project like fedora there are people from You know all inhabited continents that participate there might be somebody from australia or sorry Antarctica and australia is an inhabited continent. I promise um People from all kinds of different cultures and backgrounds And when you say something that you think is just like I'm from a culture that speaks directly. Okay. Like i'm not Being aggressive or mean about it if the person who hears that is from a culture where things are generally softened They're not going to understand that what you're saying is advice and not a command But I think it's just in general even if you're from the same cultural background and so you don't have that disconnect there You're not there to order your mentee around you're there to offer them suggestions And that goes back to the letting them make mistakes giving them the space to work and learn And of course you need to make sure that they buy into what you're doing Which goes back to the suggestions not commands and leads into the slide. I'll have here in a moment In the meantime, I do want to say that it's okay to stop A mentorship is not a lifetime commitment It could be you could be friends with that person and offer them advice forever That's awesome It does not have to be an informal programs It's generally a very defined period and if you want to continue beyond that you're welcome to but there's no obligation But also there's no obligation to go through the entirety of the defined period And most of the time stopping is not a reflection on you If your mentee says, you know, I'm just not getting the things I wanted out of this, um, you know, maybe I actually am way more interested in this other thing and it happens to be something that you don't have any expertise in That's okay If it's just that you two just don't quite know how to to talk to each other, you know, there's no ill will But you just don't communicate. Well, that happens and it's okay Um The mentorship experience is supposed to be valuable And if it's not then it should end like there's no point in Continuing on another three months when nobody's getting what they're supposed to out of it And again, like it's not that you're a bad person It's just recognizing that hey, this isn't working the way we thought and it's okay to stop Okay, so we talked about some of the principles and stuff Um, the title is best practices. So we should probably cover practices at some point If you take nothing else away from this talk, um This is the slide That I want you to remember And partly I'm so just enthusiastic about it because I was recently introduced to the concept and I was like, oh, wow That makes a ton of sense The most important practice that sort of underlies everything else is to have clear agreements And the word agreement there is intentional because it's about agreeing and not expecting So an agreement is a mutually acceptable the outcome of a mutually accessible acceptable negotiation Um, it's where you say, hey, I think we should do this the other person says Well, what if we did this slightly differently and you go back and forth and you come up with something And like in all negotiations it may not be exactly what you want, but it's something that you both bought into There's an expectation is an imposed demand.  Well, I never agreed to that and it's a funny thing about people is that People will be really Self-motivated to keep their agreements. Most people really want to feel like they're trustworthy Like they um, like the word means something like they're not letting you down if they agreed to something They'll do it people will often Reflexively recoil against expect expectations like oh, we expected me to do this. Well, I'm gonna go do the opposite instead um It's just a way that our brains at work apparently um And so when you're starting that relationship with your mentee Having those clear agreements Really helps make sure that it's not. Oh, well, I expected you would do this. Why didn't you and they're like Oh, well, I must be terrible because I didn't do this thing The expectations sometimes aren't even spoken right Um to participate in most mentorship programs. You have to you know, there's some some terms you go through and you click I agree There's not really a lot of negotiation there although. I don't know that most people have tried but Just entering the program you have to agree to these things So you've created that agreement even if the negotiations a little one-sided So what are some things that you might want to agree about? Well goals What does the mentee want out of the relationship? What can you provide to meet those goals? I found that it really helps having specific projects to work on Even if the the outcome isn't that important just having something to sort of focus around Um has been really beneficial in my experience um For example, I had uh mentee most recently Who was wanting to learn a little bit more about project management and also trying to develop her professional skills. She was very early in her career and So we're like, okay. Well, let's set up a project plan to get this certification that you're looking at So we started working through that and like all right, you know, some of it's Sort of a silly exercise because like it's a basically a one-person project and you don't really need some of this formal documentation, but for practice, let's do it And as we work through it see there were some organizational changes and she's thought about her career a little more She's like, I actually don't know. This is the direction. I want to go and I said, that's fine We'll switch to other directions, but we still had that that project to sort of keep the conversation focused and directed So like I said, the goals can change Even over the course of a three to six month mentoring relationship People have external events that happen to them or they have self-realizations.  Cool. Let's do what we can to help You be a llama farmer another really important expectation or agreement to have In my experience is the agreement of how the mentee will show their work Um Using the repo committing frequently using a pull request flow for feedback. Like this is a really Important agreement to to have sort of like hey, I propose we agree to this Now, why do you want to show your work? Well, because this is an open source project, uh, but You know, there's a lot of value to working in the open especially if part of the goal of the Mentee is to learn to have better perspite participate in open source projects Because doing acting like they are in an open source project is a good way to get that experience um It also just really helps because then you can if you're looking at code or you're looking at documentation You can point to the exact line at the exact point in time that you're talking about and so there's very clear Understanding what it is that you're talking about Um, it also gives the opportunity for others to step in and help So let's say you want to take a weeklong vacation over the summer because you're burnt out and you just want to go to Vipples house and hang out on the beach for a week Some, you know, it's not it wouldn't be okay to just sort of leave your mentee To just sit there and do nothing for a week But somebody else could step in and they can see what has happened and what the current state is and they can help Or if you just get busy one day somebody can step in and help Or if you have multiple people mentoring the same project, they can all step in and help You're seeing a theme here And also someone could pick up the work later So, you know, we talked I think marie talked about it yesterday in the panel session Sometimes you just over Schedule what you think can be done in an internship period That happens all the time that is the like number one problem of uh project program management is optimistic schedules And that's okay, or maybe you're intending it to be a multi phase thing Well, how is somebody going to step in and pick up the work later? If it's not in a repository or somewhere where people can access it And I explicitly didn't say like get repository on the last slide because repository could be you know a shared You know cloud file storage for design assets or things like that like it's it is repository in the most general sense But showing your work Allows for better communication and interaction And it allows the community to benefit from that work later on especially when it's if it's unfinished another thing that's important to agree to is How to provide help I really like the idea of answering questions with questions You know, if somebody asks me well, how do I do this? I really don't want to immediately tell them Because You don't really figure things out. You don't retain it when you're just told like if you go through the process and you Figure it out on your own you get that deeper understanding Um, but ask if somebody asks you a question you're like, well, I don't know what would happen Not helpful, right? You know ask directed questions as the mentee or mentor. Hopefully you have the domain experience where you can say Yes, I I have a pretty good idea what's going to happen um And so you kind of direct lead them down the path, but you uh, just like a horse you can't make it drink And of course you can find resources and make introductions to other people. That's a super helpful thing Um, it helps your mentee learn the project better You know the who's involved and it just you know saves them the trouble of having to you dig through stuff when you know Exactly. Oh, this is the link I need like I'm not going to tell you to go search for it And then have you can like well, which are these and I say well, which one do you think no? Uh meetings I think you should have them But again, you should agree to them. I do think that um Having a high bandwidth meeting So ideally video or phone of some kind is good um, obviously if The technology setup doesn't support it or if you're mentee or you are uncomfortable with that That's not a requirement, but I think it really helps because part of what you're looking for in these meetings Is less a status update point by point of what they're working on in more of a sense of How are they doing? Like are they feeling comfortable with the work or do they sound scared? Do they sound uncertain and that's the kind of stuff that you can't really pick out of text Um, so having that in a regular meeting is good I say regular because I uh If you say, oh, we'll meet when we need to you won't meet um in a regular cadence kind of provides a little bit of a forcing function for Hey, let's you know, I think you could have this done by the next meeting. Yeah, sure You get to the next meeting. It's not done. Okay. That's fine But it kind of puts a deadline on the table so that things can get done Um, the cadence is entirely up to you. It doesn't have to be a daily stand-up um in a lot of my um Red hat mentorship relationships. It's been two a two week meeting. It's a six month Uh process every two weeks. We will meet um in Like outreach and gsoc. I think something a little more frequently is good. Maybe once a week again, this shouldn't be your only communication um But just that sort of short 15 minutes just check in and make you see that they're actually Doing well that they're thriving Um, and it's important to take notes as well Um, I know it can be kind of distracting. You know typing and trying to talk But having notes one helps you remember Did something happen last week that you either should not ask them about or you should ask them about? Um, it helps you remember. What did we agree to do with the last you know for this meeting at the previous meeting? Um, don't try and keep all of that state in your head I didn't put it on the slides, but I should add the word confidential take confidential notes Um, you know, don't put all your ment your mentorship notes in a hack md file or on a you know gist on github Put keep them somewhere safe or only you can see them because again, you're creating a safe space for your mentee Some of those meetings should be checkpoints I think at a minimum do it at the halfway point at the end And these are things where you just sort of talk about the meta work of mentoring Are the goals still valid if they are are we on schedule? Did some of the agreements we have need to be modified? Obviously at the end it's too late to make changes, but then you can kind of see You know treat it as a retrospective and you know what worked and what didn't so the next time that you both participate in a mentorship program You can do it a little better And so let's talk about doing it a little better Um, I did want to explicitly call out the word failure here I had what I'm not sure is a hot take or not the other night um I feel like there are only a few ways that your mentee can fail you and I maybe instead of you I should say the mentorship program But there are many ways that you can fail as a mentor in almost every case that I can think of like every scenario If the mentorship relationship was a failure I'm likely to say that it was the mentors fault no pressure but You know unless the mentee just never decides to never show up just disappears off the face of the earth um Not what you can do about that but everything else You know, you're there to guide the mentee and to provide The the structure and the The information they need the guidance Maybe this is obvious. I don't know. It seemed like a hot take when I had the thought But the good news is that even failure can be success because the goal is Learning and development. It's not the end result of whatever the project you're working on um I'm running low on time. So I'll get to this. This is my last slide but um, I had a Google summer of code intern a few years ago who was working on a project That was going to make my life so much easier And it was going to reduce a lot of the copying pasting that goes on into the fedora change process and it was just make things More visible more uniform everything would be great So he's sitting there coding away. We had a really good relationship. He was getting a lot of stuff done I learned some things from him. He learned some things from me We got to the end and we realized that tiger requires you to click the save button on each Of the individual custom fields that you create and we had created like 20 custom fields and Yeah, maybe we could have discovered that sooner. I'll take the blame for that But We kind of got to the end like we had made the presentation. I had talked about here's what's coming And we realized this is not something we could subject the community to And we just discarded that entire summer's worth of work Do I see that as a failure? Absolutely not. I I hope that um, it was a successful project for him I think he learned a lot. I learned a lot We accomplished what we wanted to in terms of mentorship. We did not accomplish the project we meant to But that's okay And I have left myself about two minutes for q&a or commentary or bananas I do see One question How would you address the mentee not following through even if they seem to agree with the expectations you've negotiated? That is a really good question And that's a hard one and that's something that I personally struggle with a lot Because I try to be a really nice guy and I just don't want to confront people um I think the best way to address it is to ask questions like All right, I've noticed that you're not doing xyz that we agreed to Why Do we need to change our agreement? um Generally, it's not the mentee Intentionally being like forget this, you know, the mentee really wants to be successful here Especially in a you know sponsored program where they get paid based on whether or not they're successful in it So usually it's just about sort of doing the like the asking the asking questions until you get sort of the root And then you address it, you know, maybe they thought that they could agree to this thing But it turned out to be way harder to do than they thought cool We can deal with that. I think I've answered the question. I'll stop rambling


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Item number SCP-108 Object Class Safe Special Containment Procedures SCP-108 is contained entirely by Subject-108-1. Subject-108-1 should be contained in a standard containment cell, measuring 3 meters by 3 meters, furnished with whatever items are requested unless said items compromise security. Subject-108-1 is permitted to leave the room, wander freely, and eat in the main canteen. Medical examination to be performed on Subject-108-1 daily. Filters to be changed as necessary. Description SCP-108 is accessible through the nostrils of SCP-108-1. Subject is an African-American female who was previously employed as a cashier at a small town hardware store in Kentucky. Since then, SCP-108 has been housed at Site-17. Endoscopic examination of SCP-108 reveals that the area accessible via the subject's nostrils is not the human nasal cavity, but rather a bunker system of Nazi German construction, dedicated to the production and maintenance of World War II-errim as a Schmitt-Me 262 fighters. Exploration via robotic endoscope reveals that the bunker system has internal dimensions of approximately 2 km by 4 km, with the long axis parallel to the main entrance-exit portal. While the exploration is by no means complete, SCP-108 is believed to contain hundreds of airframes under construction on its assembly line as well as three completed aircraft. There is also a large quantity of human remains in the complex, particularly concentrated around the entry-exit portal, with the corpses of Nazi officials, military personnel, Hitler youth, and civilians, possibly Ukrainian slave workers, in an advanced state of decay. Evidence of a firefight near the entry-exit portal supports the hypothesis that the German military personnel were swarmed by the civilians and were killed in the ensuing struggle. Some corpses show signs of cannibalism. Robotic endoscopic exploration continues, and high discharge LED lighting, assembled piecemeal using the ship and a bottle technique, has been deployed. Endoscopic examination of the interior of SCP-108 reveals a large hangar door area, with a kind of double airlock, with blast doors large enough to admit two fully assembled fighters. A production line exists, which would allow damaged fighters and deliveries to enter on one side of the hangar door, and finished fighters to exit on the other side. Turning the endoscope head 180 degrees reveals the open doorway as an area of total blackness, with two nostril-shaped penetrations in it. One nostril-shaped penetration is connected to whichever nostril is admitting the endoscope, and the other is connected to the interior of a human nasal cavity. DNA testing reveals the nasal cavity belongs to the subject. The black area is impenetrable, and absorbs all wavelengths of light that the endoscope can carry. The black area is elastic, and yielding when probed. Apparently, the portal system is a unique three-way arrangement. If the outside world is designated A, the interior of the Me 262 factory is B, and the subject's nasal cavity is C, then traffic is as follows. Anything, including gases and light, going from A end up in B. Items going from B end up in C. Items going from C end up in A. Presumably in 1944, it was intended that C and A were to be the interior and exterior of a double hangar at Tempelhof, based on the architecture of the hangar doors. Addendum 108-1. Subject claims that she was training to perform the human blockhead magic trick in preparation for being a clown at a children's birthday party. After hammering a four-centimeter-long galvanized-iron nail into her nasal cavity, she lost her grip on the end, and dropped it inside her nose. Immediately, she noticed a god-awful musty stench, and experienced nausea and disorientation. Blowing her nose had no discernible effect, and left no residue on tissues. She was able to breathe normally through her nose.  Approximately a week later, after ignoring numerous complaints about the smell of her breath, subject was diagnosed with pneumonia and placed on a course of Roxythromycin. Pneumonia responded to antibiotics, but it recurred a week later. Her general practitioner also noted that nasal examination with an autoscope showed simply blackness, rather than the inside of the nose. After admission to the hospital with chronic pneumonia, examination with a one-meter fiber optic endoscope allowed the endoscope to be threaded in almost the full meter. The attending ENT noted that he appeared to be seeing a Nazi eagle badge through the endoscope. Specialist examination notes were kept in a digital patient management system, and intercepted by the foundation in a routine sweep. The subject was recovered without incident by Task Force Epsilon-9 disguised as high-risk warrant team officers in a pre-dawn raid in June of 19... By the end of the cleanup operation, the GP, ENT, 11-hospital personnel and two civilians were terminated. The subject was examined by foundation staff and provided her with air filtration units, which could be passed through her nostrils piecemeal and assembled like a ship and a bottle. The filtration filling must be removed on a regular basis when it gets expended, roughly once a week, as the subject is essentially inhaling the atmosphere of a formerly sealed Nazi mass war grave. Although initially hostile toward the foundation, the subject has responded well to enhanced psychological conditioning protocols, and now accepts her situation. A plan has been proposed in line with the backing up of all critical foundation data at Site-62 and SCP-108. Data could be written onto micro-SD cards or similar compact non-volatile media and inserted into the subject's nostrils, provided some way to house the subject in a safe location is assured in the event of an XK-class scenario. Research continues to find a way to move the entrance of the dimensional portal from the subject's nostrils to another location, and to discover the physical location of the bunker to determine if alternative access is possible. The original galvanized iron nail has yet to be found. Lesson complete. 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Hi everyone, Joe for Jaspy's casebreaks.com. Happy Monday coming at you with a quick little two-box break of 2023 Bowman Chrome University football. One breakers the light box and one hobby box. This is random team number three All-card ship. Big thanks to this group for making it happen. Thank you. And there are all the universities right there plus that big college combo spot. And let's roll it and randomize names and colleges four or two six times each. Your names first one two three four five and six. Four or two six times. There's six times right there. We got Richard down to Brian and four or two six times for the teams one two three four five and six. We got Washington down to Notre Dame. All right, so here's how it shakes out. Richard you've got Washington Tristan with Clemson last Bob Mojo, Shane Wisconsin, Kevin with Texas, Ryan with Miami, Zane with Ohio State, Michael Ole Miss, Tristan with Oregon, Ryan with Duke, Tristan with LSU, Michael with the combo spot, which could be pretty lucrative sometimes. Tristan with USC, Omar with UCLA, Omar with UNC, Michael with Tennessee, Jan with Oklahoma, Tristan with Michigan, Allen with Florida State, Brian with Penn State, Michael with Florida, Kyle with Alabama, Tristan with Georgia, Ryan with Colorado and Brian with Noreng. Notre Dame. All right, let's get all these on one pager. It's alphabetized by University and we're gonna pause the video just for a little bit and see if there's gonna be any trades. When we come back we'll have a break as well. Sit around, BRB. All right, welcome back. No deals are done, so that list remains the same and now it is officially printed out. Thanks everyone for getting in. Appreciate you. Let's see what we got in here. We'll do this last. We'll do the hobby box first. And remember this break is part of that that break credit promo we have going on. So whether you hit or not, you'll still be part of that break credit. Possibility, possibly win some break credit for a pretty inexpensive entry point too. A quick little two box break and they're doing the Hemi Awards on Monday Night Countdown on him. That's that little little statue they got kind of hilarious. Is there hair on that thing? People are talking that might be another Eagle's Chiefs. Another Eagle's Chief, scuba bull. When has there been a time after I know at Bills and the Cowboys must have met back-to-back Super Bowls at one point or was it Bills Niners? Whatever that was in the mid 90s. But has that happened since? Have two teams met again in consecutive Super Bowls? Let's start here. Good luck. There's a Shadoor Sanders and we've got for Notre Dame, there's Audrey Esteemett. 5 out of 50. Gold shimmer that's going to go to Brian. The Ryan will get Colorado's stuff, including the Shadoor Sanders. Drake May for North Carolina. Early risers Caleb Williams. Travis Hunter. UCLA putting the hurt on USC. Weird season for USC. Let's see here. There's Cade Kluvnit. Purple shimmers which are not numbered. And our autograph Joe Milton for Tennessee. Michael Gulucci of the Volunteers. 8 out of 50. Nice. I'm not super uh... I don't pay super close attention to college football but I don't know. Is he going to get drafted? I'm always good to see quarterbacks in the draft. It's good for the hobby. There's Mitch Liegberb, 399. Purple mini diamonds. Got Josh Williams, X-Fractor. This is for the combo spot. Stand for not on the list. Bo Nix, he's supposed to be drafted probably first round I think. I think that's what the people are saying. Oregon that's for Tristan. For Kentucky 66 out of 99. Dane Key. That will be for the combo spot. And there's our second autograph Raheem Sanders, Arkansas. We'll go to the college combo spot. That's for Michael. There you go Michael getting both autographs out of the box. Nice. Has not declared a major. Most of these guys are declaring majors though. Got to work on that because you got to talk to your advisor. This is the Breakers Delight edition or HTA edition or however you want to call it. I think all the cards are refractors. More numbered cards. And I still got two autos in the middle of this pack too. End of the pack. Forget where they are. I think at the bottom of the pack. All right there are your two autos right there. Refractor, refractor, refractor, refractor, refractor. That shockwave pattern. It's because this guy's doing agriculture. I like that. All right and there's Rome Adans. Adunze? Not declared a major to $3.99. Eli Holstein to $1.99 has not declared a major. Shadour Sanders? I don't know if he's declared a major or not. That goes to Colorado. Holstein goes to Kyle in Alabama. And the Washington Rome Washington for Richard. Malik Benson, Purple Mini Diamonds. It's going to help us with the autos here. Let's try to grab one at a time here. That one wants to pop first. There's Tyler Buckner. Kyle, Alabama. $1.29 out of $4.99 has not declared a major. He's a junior. I kind of have to get on that at some point. And behind Malik Benson is a quarterback for Doom, Riley Leonard. That is for Ryan Storpe and Duke. Undecided. All the other ones has not applicable. He's just undecided. So maybe he has some majors he's choosing from. And the Malik Benson to $3.99 that will be for Kyle in Alabama. There you go, gang. That was your quick little Bowman University football, two box, little mixer, quick little mixer right there. Thanks for getting in everybody. I'm Joe. I'll see you next time for the next one. Bye-bye.


Oh my god, what is going on guys? Realistic gaming here today. We are here in puppet as we can see it's another granny Pig I mean piggy granny inspired game whatever you want to call it man, but it's with elbow as we can see Oh my god, we got elbow and piggy monster. They're like crazy in the head or something All right, so let's begin with the first chapter. They are on chapter three by the way Which I barely found out about this game like a day ago something like that So that's why we're here on chapter one Maybe we'll try to beat all three chapters in this video. We'll see how we do Please isolate it. Okay, it says player or bot Let's go with the player I suppose because we want to see Elmo, right? We want to see how evil Elmo looks and he's dressed as granny. He has a granny dressed on Well, he's actually called the mole in the game here not Elmo. Oh Great wait what I was about to say is that me? Oh So this is a party. Where's everyone? My god, that is okay So it seems like we have arrived at a party of some sort I guess I'm the first one here.  Oh my god, right? Oh, this is like exactly like piggy chapter one Okay, we got elbow pictures hung up all over the house. We'll check those out. Oh my god. They're slendy tubbies That is so cool, man. They look so scary creepy and huggable. All right. Oh, we got the well out here There's nothing great. Oh a blue key. Oh, let's grab this. Aha Okay, I think the blue key was back here actually yep Okay, let's use this here. Oh you get points for unlocking stuff. That's pretty cool Because that actually makes people want to participate in the game, you know Like actually tried to unlock stuff. Oh my god. Look at this evil elbow picture right here Oh, all right, let's keep on moving Wait, isn't this the car we came in that was outside Kind of looks the same Well, we know somebody just got caught up I am hearing harpies Okay, this cannot be good Okay, have the green key Working the green key go Oh, there's a red key right here in the hammer Oh my god, what? We got out we got moe and he is going to reverse What? What is he doing guys? Why is he playing in reverse? What is wrong with this fella? Maybe his whole life is backwards, huh?  No But did we just get killed by reverse moe? That was not cool at all. All right, so we are back over here.  We need to find the green key or the green lock should I say and and um You can also respond in this game, but it didn't let me respond for some odd reason But nonetheless, we are back here and we're here to take this w in the bag Hopefully I don't die again Okay, let's go. Oh, that's a gold lock Oh my god, you guys hear the harpies Sounds so epic and scary Okay, very spoopy by the way My god, what what is elbow doing? What in the world is going on over here? At least like elbow is having a little fun time All right, and everybody's dancing with him All right, there you go elbow.   Is everybody partying over here? I'm a dance. Oh my god. Everybody is dancing over here So like we're having a dance party with elbow Oh my god. All right, you know what you guys Monkey around and I'm gonna escape out of here. I'm taking this very serious epic elbow right here I'm taking this very serious because my life is on the line emo It's an emo elbow All righty. Oh finally someone put the plank Okay, we need the orange key My god, there's so many like doors in this game Okay, so right now I feel like I am totally confused in Oh pizza I feel like I am very confused right now like I'm all over the place On the map and I can't find a single item that is useful.  No He didn't get the key. Why?   Well at least to me it is Okay, no guys Please put items where they belong Because I think they have some of the items that we actually need to escape But they're over here parting. There you go. Come on get to work everybody He has a hammer. What do you have? Do you have anything useful? Oh cookies? I might just want a cookie or two, man. She has a purple key. Oh my god. Okay. We need the red key Oh, no somebody spilled their coffee, man. That is not cool Okay Wow Oh the red key. Wow. That's exactly what I was looking for. All right. There you are Okay, nice. What's in here? Oh, okay the gold key and the orange key would we which we do need Okay, the gold key is up here and I think the orange key is in the third floor with the laser room is at So let's get this open and open this bad boy. What there's nothing in there Just gave me points Well, you can never be thankful for some points, right?  Okay, the orange key Now we got to run all the way back up to the fourth floor or third floor Wait, wasn't it? What wasn't it up here? There you go. My god.  This is the last one we need and then we get the key. I believe from the well Oh my god, come on. This is our shot to escape Let's go I really want out of this place. Okay. We placed this bad boy right here. Boom. Bada bing bada bop Yes, and he got the key. Hey, let's go buddy. All right. Let's get out of here blazer We shall crawl we shall kneel to our escape My god, this is going to take way too long. Isn't it? Oh while we're here already Let's go My god Hurry before elbow comes this way bro.  You can never trust an evil person Phew good thing. I got out of there. Oh the police Police hands up get on the ground now Dude, we're on the same side Wait, you got the wrong guy Oh my god, they arrested me instead of elbow or moe. Are you kidding me, man? Do I look evil to you?  Come on Go escape Now Now or Or I will take your cookies everybody loves the cookies man All right, nice. Oh, we got a badge too All right, so now we did chapter one. We managed to escape that was pretty easy I'm not alive, but I like the game overall even though it felt quite easy I like the concept of elbow being evil and chasing us Oh no, who died only one person died All right. Well two shade of him and you will be remembered Okay, so now we are back And we're gonna do chapter two now since we did be chapter one pretty quick That's me out of here. Oh my god, we're in a cell locked up right now Maybe there's a way to escape the prison. There's always a way To escape anything or anything I was gonna say something or anything or anyone. Oh my god, I'm elbow Dude, I didn't want to be elbow. I wanted to escape this place Come on I mean, I know being the killer's awesome But I wanted to escape. I wanted the badge man Okay, I guess we're elbow. We have to enjoy this Because you don't get to be elbow all the time Why does he move like that? Hey, come back here.   Oh, no, he's not trapped. Come on. Yes. Our first victim Yes, max. Yes Oh my god, you guys heard this scream Oh, no, I got shot. Oh, he shot me.  Jeez What did she just respawn?  Well, you better think about that twice, buddy Stop running now. Come back here.  Moe is super slow. Like how is he so slow? This is just too painful. Oh my god, this is not fair. You just had a crawling to the little vent Aha, there you go. I got a troll for him. Well, I got a surprise for you, buddy Hey, he said how? Wow, I don't know, but I go oh, I ran through the what? Dude, that made no sense. I went through the door and they still got me I'm gonna be elbow forever. Aren't I? I'm gonna cry. I don't want to be elbow I want to escape His crayons too Oh my god, I still remember this. I'm gonna start over Man, hey, I see your shadow. It's not his shadow up there. Uh-huh. I see you down here squirming Hi, you trapped yourself. Oh no, I thought they got trapped, but apparently not. Don't stop How are they running faster than me? I was like right behind them. This is just torture Hey, I see you up there Come back here. Oh Oh my god Hey, you know what it's time to go escape mode Okay, one thing I don't like when your ammo is that every time they close the door he stopped to open it like why does he stop? Yes Got him I got him. He was typing. That's what you get for typing man. Okay. I know they're back there still Let me open this Okay, he's right there No, I could have gotten her if I would have waited That's exactly what I was trying to do. Okay. This guy's right here surprise Nice Okay, this guy coming this way Okay, no, he's not he knows I'm gonna wait for him Okay, he's coming this way.  Yes Yes, you try to get me there, huh? Okay, so where is this last guy? Yes, get up. No, we were right there Dude, we were like literally right there.  I know he is I mean he has to shoot me right That's the only option he has really Dude, please don't do this. Please don't go down there Oh my He just had to go down there I think this is just what it's gonna consist consist of Just me chasing him and him running back and forth Okay, now he's right here Rio's probably going to leave before you get here revenge I should probably leave he is correct Dude, he's just gonna keep going through the beds This is gonna be impossible to get him What if I time to come? Oh Yes That's what you get man. You shouldn't just shot me buddy. I don't know why you did it And we got them all Yes We didn't escape though Oh no All right, I'll escape for the next video. I'll do like chapter two and three I was gonna do chapter one and two escape, but I ended up being uh Moe on chapter two instead of being able to escape So I'll definitely escape down the next one chapter two and chapter three and hopefully they'll be chapter four by then Well, this was Puppet and roblox if you guys enjoyed the video and you got your childhood ruined on my channel for like the hundred time We should have slapped the like button If you enjoyed the video if you're new to the channel make sure to subscribe and turn that notification bell on And I will see you guys in the next one. Yeah