What makes for excellence in hard care? It starts with one of the most amazing teams of heart surgeons and cardiologists that I've seen assembled under one roof and the region's leading technology in a new $40 million facility. This is the nationally recognized Heart and Vascular Institute of Eastern Kentucky at Pikeville Medical Center. On Wednesday, April 5th, the Child Abuse Proclamation Ceremony was held in Pikeville Park. City officials, first responders and other child protection advocates gathered to recognize April as Child Abuse Prevention Month. Pike County Judge Executive Ray Jones made the declaration himself after signing a proclamation in March. Today it being April it's the Pike County Child Abuse Prevention Proclamation event and it is put on by the DPP Department of Protection and Permanency and they organized the event to allow the judge executive to declare the month of April Child Abuse Prevention Month. So it helps spread awareness for child abuse and we have a lot of events and everything focused on getting the word out to the community. So today we had all of the community partners who deal with all aspects of a child abuse investigation. Child Abuse is a first-degree felony in Kentucky with a penalty of five to ten years in prison. If anyone witnesses or even suspects child abuse be sure to notify your local law enforcement officials. I would just want to make sure that everyone knows that Kentucky is a mandatory reporting state and if you see something and you suspect abuse it's your job to report that and it's not you have to have proof or you have to know for certain if you suspect it you should report it. I think it's a good thing for the community to see that there's so many people working together they think maybe only social services or social workers are one aspect of child abuse investigations but it really we have law enforcement here we had legal that's involved we have advocates and the children's advocacy center and it's really a team effort especially in Pot County when we work on these events to make sure that the child is protected and getting the best treatment that they can from the investigation. Reporting for Mountain Top News I'm Nick Collum


hi guys welcome back to my channel i'm sorry if you can hear the laundry in the back we're doing some towels we're a little bit backed up on the chores today it's friday i normally get this video up on friday but since i was working all week i worked out at night thus why i couldn't get the video up today like all my other workout update videos i'm gonna tell you guys what i did kind of give you a little update on my body and how the week went and then we'll get into the photos i know you guys all just want to see the photos but first i wanted to address this comment i got on my instagram which is so funny like i honestly i don't i'm not meaning to like address hate i think it's personally like really funny so if you guys like comment this i don't mind because it's just one of those things i think it's funny someone said they have like zero followers i think they just created this account to say this there is no difference honestly in these photos from last week to this week there is no difference i mean there's a very slight difference that i can feel in my body and that my mom can see but that's because she's my mom other than that there really shouldn't be a drastic change because if you lose weight so fast that's totally unhealthy i just wanted to address that because i thought it was funny and it's true there really isn't a huge difference especially for the average person just looking at these photos starting off it was saturday and i did the 45 minute workout which saturday i think that's the day that i did i get back from my trip i don't know but it was close to when i got back from new york and i was really really tired that day um after the 45 minute workout i convinced myself to do the abs so i did the ab workout the next day sunday the 23rd i only did the 30 minute workout which i'm doing right now and i'm just talking to fill up some space in this video so the b-roll kind of matches up with the talking and then on monday i did the 15 minute workout plus the abs i typically work out after i work at night because i am not a morning person guys like i can barely get up for work in itself so i'm definitely not getting up to work out i rather do it at night i'm still tired but i'm already awake it's not like i have to get myself awake to work out tuesday is my day off so no footage there wednesday i worked because it's a normal day that i work i did the 15 minute workout plus the abs and that was like a normal wednesday that's my normal routine then on thursday i do not work out because it's my other day off i love my days off but then i can totally feel it when i get back into working out i can feel when i haven't worked out so that's probably why a lot of people like to stay consistent and then friday today i did the 30 minute workout which i was like oh my gosh should i just do the 15 but i was like no i'll just do the 30 and i'll just push it because i want to you know kind of keep up with the longer workouts and then i also did the ab workout because i was like you know sherry should i just do it and she's like yeah just do it i'm like yeah it's 10 minutes out of my life not that long so i just did it the next part of this video i like to cover kind of like my updates and what i've been feeling and eating at the beginning of the week saturday sunday and kind of monday like those three days i felt so lethargic i don't know why i know traveling and when you're out of town everything can really take a toll on you because you're in a new place i was just so tired and that's why on saturday and sunday i just did one video and i normally never do that i hate doing that you know i didn't do any arms this week which is crazy you know like look at these things my mom's just staring at me looking mama over there she just like a sack of potatoes i didn't do any arm workouts so i was just really really tired and i just felt like all the energy was like sucked out of me also i was working out after work which work for me like i've said in the past videos it's not physically demanding like i sit at a desk and then sometimes at events i lift things like a fold-up table and like a tent but honestly like that's not very physical labor um probably when i was doing freelance and helping on like actual shoots i was doing more physical activity but my job now i don't really do anything like that but i still am tired when i get home from work like it's still like oh i just want to sit on the couch and stuff uh kind of like tonight but i didn't that's probably another reason why i didn't do a lot a lot of workouts but i wanted to keep consistent with my days and just doing something so my body doesn't like totally give out on me i also wanted to talk about working out on an empty stomach makes me less hungry so after i work out i don't eat as much is what i found or i get full faster i don't know if that's because like my abs are like more tight so it makes my stomach smaller i have no idea maybe it's just a psychological thing on monday uh your girl kind of had a little slip in the diet not that my diet's been great this whole week like let's just be real but monday was the worst day i'm just gonna insert the clip here okay i'm just capturing this because your girl just bought a bag of salt and vinegar chips yeah that's what we're dealing with right now yeah i just got done working out and i haven't missed a day of working out so i feel like that's why i'm just like treating myself because it's been hard this week especially being monday i work today not that my work is like physically demanding like don't get the wrong impression like i sit at a desk but like when i get home it's evening time so i just want to like sit down and stuff so i grabbed myself a bag of salt and vinegar chips on my way home and i also got myself some fun things at work but i didn't eat them because i was pretty busy so i kind of got distracted so i was like since i was so good and i didn't eat them they're in my desk drawer literally i got myself this whole bag i know it's not good not good at all but i've just been like not motivated at all but i haven't given up because we got to stay strong and it's like my reward for keeping up the exercising and yeah i know it doesn't mean i'm gonna lose weight because i'm gonna consume everything i just worked off i understand that but it's more like the mentality of like you know just do it and then you get rewarded i don't know it's just one of those things guys guys don't forget there's no excuses for things but it's okay to do certain things that probably aren't the best decisions as long as you're not hurting anyone yourself or like being negative then it's okay it's okay so as you can see i had some salt and vinegar chips also too speaking about diet and whatnot i get a lot of like treats at work so when i say treats it's not necessarily like chocolate i mean sometimes it's chocolate and cookies and everything like today they had insomnia cookies but i did not have one i did have funyons though because it's friday and i worked so i treated myself but on wednesday we had our meeting that's always catered obviously i'm gonna eat at the meetings so that was definitely a very big ish slip in my diet i had like a rice krispie tree a brownie and a cookie because those things are just so good and then i had some bread also my foot stopped hurting so i'm really happy about that it's getting a little worried because the workouts were getting hard to do with my foot hurting um because you're like jumping and everything and like there's a specific spot in my foot that i was hurting but luckily i think it's all fixed now and i'm not in any pain when i do the workout so we're all good here so how i'm feeling in my body currently to be honest not that different my lower stomach is still kind of like pudgy but the weird thing is guys like i can feel my abs like once i lose this like thermal layer of fat i'm gonna be like intensely strong at least i'll look more strong like on the outside because on the inside like i feel it is that weird to say i don't know but um it's just it's always been like really stubborn for me to lose so like i'm being realistic probably not gonna lose it until like i cut carbs like strictly i think the thing i wanted to end on for the updates today was the first night i felt like i had more energy back like my normal energy from my trip i was just so like i said earlier very tired lethargic is the best word i could put in that um but now i'm feeling back to myself and my energy so the exercises were a little bit easier every time i take that day off my tuesdays and thursdays off the next day it's always so much harder so i don't know maybe it's just in my head but now moving on to the real reason you are here to see the pictures so here are the pictures this is my front view on the left is alex last week on the right is alex this week honestly i cannot believe this is week six can you believe it guys i that's just insane now this is the side view alex last week on the left and alex now on the right it's so weird and i really wanted to address this because okay so it doesn't really look like i made any progress especially maybe i picked the wrong side you're looking right now at my left side and my camera is being held with my right arm so you're seeing my left side holding the camera with my right arm okay so it doesn't look any different okay it looks like normal like nothing's changed but look at this guys when i switch the camera and you're looking at my right side of my body and i'm holding the camera with my right side and i'm like posing in this specific location not location but like pose you can see a huge difference like i look so much better like this i have no idea why i think maybe i just picked the bad side to show each week for my updates but let me tell you i look good on the right side with like this pose i don't know maybe like everyone's body is uneven so maybe like my right side is just more fit than my left side because i can tell you like my fat roll on the left side is a little bit bigger than the right side which is weird but it's totally normal so maybe i should start taking my pictures on the right side but then you can't really see a difference so you know i just wanted to bring that up here in here the pictures before i even started working out so alex pre working out on the left and alex now on the right i always love looking at these because i do see a huge difference and then this is the side view of that so non working out alex on the left and now alex on the right i really like these and i do see a huge difference so it keeps me motivated hope you guys like these updates let me know down below if you can see a difference i completely i'm not offended if you can't see a difference i'm honestly doing these videos for you guys if you guys are on this journey but mostly for me to hold myself accountable and to just kind of document this because i like to because i like documented my life and it holds me accountable so i know like i got to work out because i need to film this and it just like keeps me motivated and i like seeing the results so anyway give this video a thumbs up don't forget to subscribe to my channel and i'll see you guys in my next video bye


Thank you, Speaker Bergkamp, speakers, chairpersons, members of parliament, friends, it is an honor to address you today in this historic hall. As was pointed out, every fall the tulip bulbs that you, the Dutch people, send us are planted in gardens and parks across Kent, Ottawa. In fact, they went in just last week. And every spring, no matter how long or cold our Canadian winter has been, and it is long and cold, those tulips come up. My friends, we have faith that what we do today will have an impact tomorrow, because if we sow the seeds of a brighter future, that better day will arrive. That's what Canadian soldiers believed when they landed on the beaches of Europe 80 years ago. It's what they believed as they fought their way to the Netherlands, as they pushed canal by canal, town by town, to vanquish the dark forces of fascism. Later today, I will visit the Bergen-Upsum Cemetery, where so many Canadian soldiers were laid to rest. And as I pay my respects to those who made the ultimate sacrifice, I'll be thinking of all that they were fighting for, of the legacy they left. Looking at names like Lloyd McDonald and Roméo Gagnon will, of course, also be a reminder that Canada is a bilingual country, so this morning I will be leaning on your famous Dutch multilingualism and staying true to my Canadian bilingualism. Our two countries are united by generations of people who have put everything into work to build a better future. People who have defended what was dear to them. I think of democracy and the right of people, of the conviction that all beings are ego and that the Union is truly the strength, and we should be proud of it, we should rejoice in it. But in fact, it's not what I want to talk about today. If our two countries are bound together, and I know that we are, it is not only by our shared history, but by our common future. As friends, allies and partners across the Atlantic, Canada and the Netherlands share a commitment to the brighter tomorrow we want to see and the progressive values that will get us there. The rule of law, belief in reason, the defence of human rights, multilateral institutions that serve the common good by promoting fairness and equality. Of course, you already know that. After all, we're in the home of so many of these ideas and ideals. I think about the fact that long before the Enlightenment swept across Europe, you here in the Netherlands were pioneers of progress, advocating for reason and science as the path forward. My friends, that is still our path. That is what I want to talk with you about today. Our generation faces real challenges, rising populism and extremism, a more unpredictable world, workers losing their jobs to automation, wildfires laying waste to entire towns and sea levels creeping up on entire countries. This is not the world of those Dutch thinkers from hundreds of years ago. It is not the world our grandparents stood shoulder to shoulder together against the Nazi regime. But if online radicalisation drives someone to hate their fellow citizen, is it really so different from the intolerance our grandparents sought to defeat? In the shadow of great power, competition and authoritarianism, isn't our path forward still the rule of law, universal values and cooperation? When workers are worried about their future, doesn't the solution remain economies that work for everyone? And as climate change threatens our world, aren't we once again called to step up and defend a brighter tomorrow for our children? The populism and extremism, the inequalities, the threats for the environment, these challenges are not new. These are issues we have known for a long time and that we have already managed to fix at other times. So we must say that solutions are perhaps closer to us than we think. Just 10 minutes from here is the International Criminal Court. When we talk about our shared commitment to progressive values, it's hard to think of a better example. After all, a team of Canadians played a central role in setting up this court that now finds its home right here in the Hague. This is proof that we can and have stood up together to injustice, to hate and to the very worst crimes. And it's proof that we continue to meet these wrongs with the rule of law and with a commitment to the rights of every person. That is the groundwork that, together, we have laid. This is the foundation upon which we can build. At home in Canada, we're cracking down on online hate and radicalization while keeping communities safe with measures that protect places of worship and community centres. There must be no tolerance for anti-Semitism, just like there must be no place for Islamophobia or hatred of any kind. And of course, this work goes beyond our borders. I could talk about the new immigration stream we're establishing to provide safe refuge for human rights defenders at risk, including from Afghanistan yet another place where the Dutch and Canadians have stood side by side in defence of peace and human rights. We're launching a new Canadian centre to promote democracy and good governance around the world, or the fact that we'll continue increasing our support for institutions and groups that stand up for democracy, for human rights and for international law globally. I could talk about all the work that Canada has done in terms of democracy, the rights of people and international law, but at the end of the day, it sums up. We know what world we want, and we know that we won't be able to build it alone. Our two countries stand alongside each other in the defence of human rights and the rule of law. Canada and the Netherlands are making a joint intervention at the International Court of Justice to ensure accountability for the Rohingya people who have been the victims of genocide. And we're cooperating to hold the Syrian government responsible for crimes against humanity it has committed against its own citizens. The points I've just laid out may seem so obvious to those of us in the room that one could wonder why we even need to say them at all. But in this age of unreason, of disinformation, of skepticism and cynicism, we need to acknowledge that there are those who would tear down what we are building, who stand against these positive values we share. And let's be frank. It's not just conspiracy theorists and marginalised angry people online. It's state actors too, using disinformation, propaganda and cyber warfare to harm our economies, our democracies and undermine people's faith in the principles that hold us together. So we must stand strong and united in NATO, at the UN and in multilateral fora around the world to meet the threat of authoritarianism with the hard work of democracy, to counter challenges with security and strength, and to show that societies that embrace difference, that welcome open debate, and that care about each and every one of their citizens, that those societies ultimately deliver a better present and future for all. We are not on the front lines of a world war as our grandparents were. That does not mean, though, that we can just sit back and assume that the work they started is done. My friends, our work is just beginning. In Canada, we must grapple with the injustices faced by indigenous peoples for far too long. Government has a real role to play, and that's why we're working hard on everything from clean water to making amends for historic wrongs. But individuals have their part too, because reconciliation or, for that matter, doing right by any community is shared work. And I know that our citizens are more than equal to the task. Just think of what we've all been able to accomplish just over the last 18 months. With COVID-19, our world has faced a challenge like we could never have expected. But countries like ours, like Canada and the Netherlands, we're pulling through. There are lots of reasons why. Let's not kid ourselves. We're fortunate that as part of the global north, as trading nations, we've been able to secure the vaccines our citizens need faster than most other countries. But there's another reason, too. And it has to do with the fact that we're places where we look out for one another. Places where we are willing to stay home to protect our neighbors, where we know that it benefits us all when the small business down the street stays afloat. With the beginning of the end of this pandemic and this global economic crisis, we're lucky to rebuild better. And to do so, our economies must, first of all, be strong, resilient, and profitable to all. As our countries take the liberalization of trade exchanges, it is clear that if we close our doors, we won't be able to create good jobs or let our businesses grow. If, in each of our countries, we want to promote shared prosperity and build a strong middle class, we must place our trust in just and progressive trade exchanges. There is no doubt that Canada and the Netherlands already know. Through CETA, we've boosted trades and goods between our two countries by 18 percent already, while trade and services have gone up by almost 50 percent. Working together as liberal trading nations pays. It means more good, well-paying jobs for the middle class, more opportunities and customers for our small businesses, more growth for the entire economy. That's why Canada has been leading efforts on WTO reform through the Ottawa Group, because an open, free, fair, and rules-based trading system can drive global prosperity and a stronger middle class everywhere. Provided we remain committed to ensuring that the system includes everyone and everyone can reap the benefits. Later today, I'll be sitting down with business environmental leaders to talk about the next chapter in our collaboration, green innovation and clean growth that creates new opportunities for workers and resilient economies for everyone. Dear friends, everyone deserves a good job, but let's not forget that it's not the only criteria that people have in mind when they think about the life they want for their children and their families. After all, what good is a strong economy or an open society if our home has been ravaged by forest fires or if our neighborhood is completely flooded? Climate change is the test of our generation. To meet it, we have to follow the science, to listen to reason, because if we do anything else, we will fall short. I know you get that.  My friends, it's an example we're following at home in Canada with historic investments in bike paths and walking trails. And when it comes to climate ambition, we're on the same page. We've both committed to phasing out coal-fired electricity. We've both put a price on pollution. We're both investing in renewable energy and moving forward on climate adaptation. The world needs countries like ours to stand up for what we believe. To say, yes, this is a crisis. And yes, we can do something about it. To follow the science. To develop new solutions. To lead for our kids. And this coming week, especially, we're going to be talking about climate change. And this coming week, especially, we all have a chance to do just that. COP26 is in a few days. I'll be there. I know Prime Minister Rutte will, too. Let's take this opportunity to keep working together. To rebuild good green jobs for workers and leave a bright future for our children. Climate change. Inequality. Radicalization. These are big challenges. Bigger than either of our two countries. So why does it matter that we talk about this here? Why am I saying all this to you in this historic hall today? This is the same hall where the Congress of Europe was held in 1948, as Canadians joined leaders from across Europe to rebuild after the Second World War. This is the same hall where they made the choice to work together instead of being divided. To embrace democracy and human rights against hate and injustice. To believe in reason and progress and reject fear and mistrust. That was their choice. And now, this choice is ours. Neither of our countries stands as the biggest or the richest or the most powerful. But building a better world isn't about standing alone. It's about standing together. My friends, let us plant the seeds and bulbs of a better future. And let's have faith in their promise for a brighter tomorrow. Thank you. Merci.


Live from Las Vegas, it's theCUBE. Covering VMworld 2017, brought to you by VMware and its ecosystem partner. Welcome back to theCUBE's continuing coverage of VMworld 2017. I'm Lisa Martin with my co-host Dave Vellante. Dave, it's been an exciting, almost two full days and we're very excited to be joined by Joel Reisch, the EVP of products and operations at NetApp. And NetApp is going to believe you haven't been on theCUBE before. I haven't been, I think I've, I'm sure I've watched a lot of the episodes, but I've never, I've never been against it. I apologize for that, I'm shocked. I mean, given our past history and relationship, but welcome. Thank you. And we'd like to hear that. We'll see how I do before you, if I can be back again. As a former NetAppian, I have high hopes. Okay. So Joel, NetApp is positioning itself as a storage software company for multi-cloud worlds. What does that really mean? So what it means is that, you know, when I think about it, when I talk to customers, the problem space about how do I manage my data has gotten so wide and so broad in the last three years. Because, you know, it used to include, you know, the walls, just the, you know, the space between the four walls of the data centers that you owned. And now the problem space is that plus other data sources you might need to take to grow your business. It might be infrastructure as a service that you've built in the cloud. It might be a software as a service application that you're running that's still your data, but it's in some other person's data center. So what it means is that we've really focused on the fact that the world is going to be hybrid cloud and that it's going to be multi-cloud and that the problems that the high-class problem to solve is how to allow people to manage their data in that world. And we've been talking all week on theCUBE and you see it now in VMware's results. There's a lot of tailwinds. But part of that is the customer reality that they can't bring their business into the cloud and reformulate it to force fit it into the cloud, rather they have to bring the cloud to the data. That's sort of your wheelhouse. When you think about multi-cloud, are you talking about being the data store that multiple clouds can access? And do you see it going beyond that where people are cross-clouding, if you will? Sure. Inter-clouding. Yeah, I mean, and the mechanisms vary by which people will do that. We see people wanting to still own their data. In other words, still have it behind their firewall. So one of the ways they can cross-connect to multiple clouds is they can put a storage system, a NetApp storage system in a co-location facility, let's say an Equinix facility and there they have access to all of the fastest, broadest pipes that you could find anywhere on the network. And you can do a direct connect to Azure. You can do an express connect to, or direct connect to Amazon or express connect to Azure and make a decision about who has the best pricing plan or who has the best contractual terms or legal terms for you to go to the cloud. So there's that way to do it when you're trying to manage really just physically own your data when you're concerned about the privacy or sovereignty of it. There's other ways of doing it also where our storage management software can sit in the cloud. We have a product called Cloud On Tap and you can buy it as a service in Amazon or you could buy it as a service in Azure and you could store your data in their infrastructure and because it has a built-in capability of moving from one vendor to another, you don't have to worry about format differences between the cloud vendors. So you can migrate, you could snap mirror which is a replication capability that we've had for 20 years and you could be multi-cloud in that sense also. You know what's interesting about that, Joe, is when I first started looking at NetApp and there was no such thing as cloud, but it struck me that you guys were early on with the concept of storage as a service. You had many, many services within your solutions, whether it was copy services or even data reduction services well ahead of its time that were bundled in to the platform and you would invoke those as necessary, very sort of cloud-like, or we would talk about serverless today, that's sort of the model as invoking services as I need them, kind of composable, if you will. So very compatible in concept anyway with cloud. So take us through kind of where you are today with the architecture, used to be so simple. EMC block, NetApp file, and that's changed dramatically and of course I'm oversimplifying. Where are we today with the portfolio and the company strategy, maybe you could talk to things like all flash arrays, hyper-converged, bring us up to date. So I mean, I think there's, we look at, you're right, we do take a service's perspective of what we're building. We look at that there's a consumption continuum that people actually want to buy those services in different shapes or forms. So when we think about it, it's not, we don't have a separate cluster data on tap roadmap for our next high-end FAS system that has different features than the roadmap for the version of on tap that's going to run on the cloud. It's actually one product that we build to be able to be consumed in different ways. And that, when you think about it, that's kind of like a microcosm of our strategy, which is that what we're trying to do is make that those data services available no matter where the data happens to be. So I'll give you an example of a new service that we've implemented as part of cluster data on tap. It was in a new release that we did this past spring called 9.2. So it has a feature in it called fabric pools. And what fabric pools allow you to do is, we have this idea that over time, storage becomes a service level based thing and you have a capacity tier and you have a performance tier. And over time, whatever that performance tier is going to be built of is going to be as flash progresses to obtain and things like that, that capacity tier is going to get faster and faster and faster. And it's always going to be a little bit more expensive than the, I mean, the performance tier is going to get more and more small, it's going to get bigger, it's going to get faster, it's always going to be more expensive than the capacity tier.  Well, so in essence, what we're doing is we're doing tiering between all flash and any S3 target. So that S3 target could be Glacier, the S3 target could be S3, I mean, the S3 target could be, you know, it could be any S3 target, it could be an object, anybody's object store. And essentially what happens is the system will manage secondary data and snapshot data into that capacity tier, but it'll manage it all together so that you're getting the most efficient use you can of flash. Now, so you look at that and say, okay, that's a consumption model, that's a traditional consumption model where you're buying controller-based functionality. Well, it turns out that cloud on tap and can run fabric, can use fabric pools also. So what that means is I can deploy, I could go to Amazon's marketplace, I can buy cloud on top for a dollar, I think it's a dollar 45 an hour, and I could run an instance, I could set up a cluster in the cloud, and I could use EC2 storage, right? I could use Amazon storage and I could run on tap on it, and then if I want to, I could implement fabric pools and I could tier to S3 or Glacier, right? Within the cloud. The point is the value of that is single point of control. Yeah, single point. And customers will pay for that value. My point is actually the point I was trying to make is that it's a consumption model choice. I'm not going to force someone, you know, I view the cloud as our friend, right? What we're trying to do is find ways for people to leverage either the infrastructure of the public cloud or their on-prem infrastructure to be able to manage their data in ways that they can. And discreetly selling that software as a service. Yes, exactly. Or as a feature of our standard appliance product. But a much different model than taking a Seagate disk drive, packaging it into a controller and selling it for 10x what you paid for. Right, exactly. So you know, that's really the exciting thing is trying to find ways of making what we have portable into the different ways that people want to consume data management services these days. So a couple questions for you, Joel. You mentioned the word friends. You've been NetApp long time friends with VMware. Yes. Since we're one year post combination of Dell EMC how has the NetApp VMware relationship evolved? One of the things we heard Michael Dell say this morning was it's very important to maintain the independence of the VMware ecosystem. Talk to us about how in the last year that relationship has progressed and how that's helping NetApp continue its history of being very innovative. Yes, there's always been co-opetition. There's always been places where our products overlapped and where you could do similar things with VMware at the server level that we could do at the storage level. But from the beginning, the integrations that we did with them I think were really helped move the market and really helped move both of our businesses. I think there's like three things that we're doing right now that are new in the last year with them. One of them is we've built another version of ONTAP which we call VNAS which can run on top of VSAN in a VMware and an ESX environment and provide NFS and SIFS file services on top of VSAN. So that's a really interesting combination of both of our software-defined products that solve a customer problem. Another thing we've done is we've announced our HCI product NetApp HCI and we have a really close partnership with VMware. We decided that that was the way to go, that we didn't want to build our own hypervisor and that they did a really good job on the management side and that our integration of those three things would build something, with our strength being at the storage management layer and their strength being at the hypervisor and management layer, that that would help us build a really effective competitive product. So I think those are two really good examples of that the partnership is moving forward. Lots of interesting integrations and we're working on figuring out how to bring value to what VMware is now doing with AWS, right? Because we have a very large install base. I came to the show and I asked, well, how many combined customers do we have with VMware? And it's 50,000 combined customers over the years that we've been doing this. So our customers want to know how to get access to that capability, how to move into AWS in a way that provides them an interim step. So there's some really good cooperative work going on between our developers in that area. And a couple of strong GTM routes right through, you mentioned a new version of ONTAP for VSAN. Yesterday Pat Gelsinger mentioned there's now 10,000 customers on VSAN. Talked about obviously with AWS as another GTM opportunity for you. Yeah, I mean, our teams work together great. There's no question about it. Yeah, I mean, you guys have always been right there in the inner circle of integration with VMware. I mean, in the days where EMC was trying to control the chessboard, NetApp was always able to have products like same day, as integrated as anybody. And that was important for VMware to show its independence. Well, Mountain View is much closer to Sunnyvale than Hopkinson. That is true. So you talked about, you chose not to develop your own hypervisor, others have. So maybe talk about that a little more, how you differentiate from some of the other hyperconverged players. Yeah, I mean, I don't, you know, there are other ways of dealing with, you know, when people don't want to spend money on a license, you know, there are other ways of dealing with that problem than building your own hypervisor. You know, for example, so in our HCI product, we can scale server and we could scale compute and storage independently. So you don't actually get locked into buying, you know, you don't have to buy another VMware license if all you're doing is selling combined, you know, combined HCI nodes. By breaking them apart and having separate HCI nodes, we don't drive people into consuming VMware licenses that they might not need, right, in order to meet the demands of the, you know, what they're trying to build. So, you know, I think we've taken a much different approach to HCI. We talk about it as second generation. The core, you know, there's a lot of value to it. The core value and differentiation is really ease of setup and use that people have grown to expect from HCI combined with an amazing amount of quality of service and workload guaranteed workload per workload performance and scaling to, you know, 100 nodes which, you know, we think really makes HCI a data center class technology. You know, not an edge technology, not a single application technology, but by, you know, adding data management features and having that really real ability to scale to very large systems. We think we've really, you know, come into the market at a time when HCI is ready to move to that next, you know, that next step of not just being single workload, single application. So we think we're there at a good time with the right product. How about all flash arrays? Bring us up to speed on that. You guys made an acquisition of Solify, great acquisition. Yeah. Picked it up at a good time in the marketplace, got it for, I think, a relatively good price. Really good company, true software defined, built for sort of cloud-oriented applications. So how have you integrated that asset? Where does it fit in your portfolio and maybe you can share some proof points? Yeah, so we've seen a lot of success with that. You know, what we were doing, when we bought SolidFire, there were a whole bunch of motivations for it. One of the motivations was, we knew we needed access to the new buyers. We knew we needed access to people who were making decisions about deploying applications independent of the infrastructure that they happen to have in their data center. They were trying to find new ways of doing things. So when we bought SolidFire, a lot of it was, we loved the technology. A lot of it was getting access to the new buyers and bringing them to the table. And it's funny, because I was noticing today in a bunch of customer meetings that I had here that in the past I'd have meetings and it would be like sort of the same IT stack. Here's the system admin, here's the server admin, here's the network admin, here's the storage person sitting around the table. And when I talk about, we talk about the data fabric, which is the way we tie together our hybrid clouds. When I talk about that, either people would start to yawn or they'd start to feel threatened because we were talking about something that was a new world for them that they didn't quite know how they would fit in. One of the things I'm seeing now, especially this year, is that customers are coming to the table with a cloud architect, and the person who's trying to figure out how I get to the next place, plus the person who owns the existing infrastructure and they're trying to figure out how to modernize it. So it's something, when we bought SolidFire, we had this theory, okay, we got to go, we have this new technology. It's aimed at a new buyer. And one of the things I'm seeing now was that the portfolio sale of the things that we're offering is starting to be relevant to actually, we don't have to go find the different people. We're actually starting to see them come to the table and talk to us together. So, you know, all Flash for us has been, that's been what's driving the company. You know, we went, we made a big investment about two and a half years ago. It started to pay off last year. We're still growing much faster than the market, much faster than companies who are a lot smaller than us. And the last, you know, market research data that I saw had us as number two in the world. After really not even, you know, being in the top, you know, single digits about three years ago. So that's been a really good thing for us both for our installed base, but also winning new footprint and winning new business that we didn't have before. We're displacing legacy competitors one a day. I think George talked about it in our last earnings call, right? We're replacing EMC once a day, right? At least an accelerating past that. And it's replacing the old stuff. And a lot of it is because of what we've done with Flash. A lot of it is also because it's a future proof. Okay, well, how am I going to, if I, so let's say I decide I want to move this part of this workload that's on here, one workload that's on here to the cloud next year. All right, how could NetApp, how could you help me do that? And we'll go through and talk about this is what we do with Azure, this is what we do with Amazon, right? This is what we do with IBM Cloud. Right, none of our competitors can do that. Right? Excellent, and Joe, sorry to cut you off, we've got a wrap, but I'm, you've got NetApp Insight 2017 change the world with data coming up in, you're going to have to come back to Vegas in October and Berlin, and I'm sure. Right here, I might even be sitting in the same place I hope you get some fresh air. Let's make that happen, it'll be the cube to Insight. There we go, thank you so much for joining. You're now a CUBE alumni, which is fantastic. Thank you, do I get a T-shirt? Congratulations, a pen, I think. Yeah, a pen, all right, well, for my co-host, Able, and to Emily Samartin, we want to thank you for watching. Come right back, we've got more exciting coverage from day two of VMworld 2017 right now.


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From Security Matters, back here in Lagos, the state governor, Babajdeh Songolu, has announced that the construction of the fourth mainland bridge will begin by the end of March or April. The governor stated this in his keynote address during the Lagos West Senatorial District Town Hall meeting which held in Ikeja. Our correspondents love Ikukuo Yodokon was there and now report. The East Town Hall meeting is a first in a series that will be done across other senatorial districts of the state. It is aimed at showcasing the works of the administration and also get necessary feedback from the public. The arrival of Governor Babajdeh Songolu signifies proper takeoff of the program. An openly remarked by the Commissioner for Information and Strategy, Benga Omotosho, set the ball rolling. The commissioner described the meeting as part of the open draw policy of Governor Babajdeh Songolu's administration and passion to deliver good governance to residents. If you ask of me, of the so-called chancellor positions at the democracy, for democracy to maintain its sections, the active involvement of the people in governance will be encouraged and at least what we are doing will make us. This is because the cities, they are the bedroom of democracy. It is there for the importance of this policy that we are going to get today to promote our agenda of running an open government, a transparent government, and all inclusive governments through its mentality of the things first agenda. Thereafter, Governor Songolu briefed the gathering on the level of major projects being undertaken by his administration. He explained that some discomfort would be experienced but however assured that composition would be paid to those whose property would be affected. Songolu also told the gathering that his government has completed 70 kilometers of new roads within the Lagos West sanitary districts set apart from the red and blue rail lines plans were also run to rescue the green and purple lines for Lagos East sanitary districts. The governor also said that the state government has budgeted the sum of 50 billion error to support the vulnerable residents of the state to cushion the effect of the harsh economy and take the people out of poverty. Love Ikuku Uyiduku plus TV News.


Hi, in this video we'll be demonstrating how to host Bitescout Cloud API Server in local IS. I already have the API Server Publish package downloaded and extracted to the www.routes folder. However, you can place it at any place of your choice. Once that's done, let's begin adding applications in IS. Follow the below steps in order to configure your API server. Open IS Server, and right-click on the Sites folder, and click on the Add Website context menu. Upon clicking on the Add Website menu, it'll open a window where you need to add website details such as website name, its physical path, port of website etc. For this demonstration purpose, I am adding site name as Bitescout API, selecting physical path from previous extracted location under www.routes as well adding port to 81. Again, please configure as per your requirements on the production server. And, it's done. We can start or stop the Bitescout API Server from controls placed in the sidebar, under the Manage Website section. With these configurations complete, it's time to test and check the output. Click on the Browse link placed under the Browse Website section. It's opening a browser window with an API server running message. It's this easy to configure API server on your server IS. Thank you.


In 2004, Brad Bird directed what many have referred to as a pure slice of Americana, combining both the ingenuity and know-how of a younger version of itself who traveled to the future to become the best movie ever made, and I am of course referring to the Incredibles. I truly believe you have no idea what you just said. But it was hard for me to pick my best Pixar film. I mean, I like the Toy Story series, but for me, Finding Nemo was one of the best Pixar movies ever made. Wow! From the art direction, to the voice acting, to just the overall feel-good story, Finding Nemo set itself apart from the rest of the Pixar films. Play the clips? That's not how this works. No! I got something to tell ya! Fine. Don't make any sudden moves up inside my mouth if you want to live. The Incredibles plays out as both a great action film and a fantastic suburban sitcom, and you get a lot of great scenes from both. We get the at-home situations such as Dash messing with his teacher at school, and the father gives his typical fatherly response where he's just proud that he was able to run so fast the teacher couldn't see him. He moves! Right there! We get the family life with the kids fighting, and we get a father who has to sneak away from his house to fight crime. All these things come together to encompass the overall theme, which is family togetherness, working together to become stronger, take on any obstacle sort of thing. Finding Nemo doesn't have any of that. Getting through obstacles as a family is pretty easy when you all have superpowers, but little Nemo's adventures through the ocean, now those are some obstacles. You have Shark Attack, who, Nemo being caught in a dentist's aquarium, he finds himself in some really troubleous waters. See what I did there? Troubled water, troubled script. The thing is paced poorly. I mean, sometimes it's firing on all cylinders, and at other times it's slowed down to a snail's pace, but you can always rely on one thing, and that's Ellen DeGeneres to save the day.  I mean, come on, give me an image of the seat the entire time, or just let me fall asleep.  Are you done? Yeah, I got it out. There is one point I'll agree with you on, that is that Dora, played by Ellen, really steals a show. I mean, to take her comedic acting style and to bring it into this film, that's just flawless. Run a clip on that? We got something to show? You keep saying this. Yeah, it went this way, follow me. Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. Ellen has to compete with some hard competition over on Incredible Side, and that starts with Craig T. Nelson coaching his way through this thing, because IMDb said that's what his name was, so we're just going to go with that. I didn't really know it, but then there's Elastic Girl, played by Holly Hunter, well, once again, not a huge name, but we do have the ever-reliable Samuel L. Jackson playing Prozone. I think what Adam's trying to say here is that neither film relied heavily on the cast, but more on the screenplay and the script for each actor. I think if you look closely in any film, you can find Samuel L. Jackson somewhere in the background wandering. That's right, that's a fact. And if you leave a dollar under your pillow at night, he'll come. Right then, the meeting has officially come to order. One of my favorite things about Finding Nemo is the personification of all the aquatic characters, like the shark who is in therapy for eating the fish. Change this image. I must first change myself. Fish are friends, not food. Except stinkin' dolphins. Dolphins, yeah! They think they're so cute. And how the school teacher, the stingray, acts as a school bus and all the little kids get on board and they go off to the school yard. Manta ray, but that's fine. It's a school bus thing. It's a stingray. I mean, you've got the tail. Pretty sure he's a manta ray. Manta rays are larger than stingrays. I mean, they're the larger portion of the stingray family. Stingray, I believe, part of the shark family, manta ray, not as much. The shark family. I don't recall seeing the manta ray or the stingray on Shark Week taking out a seal. The aptly named Seal Island is home to 10,000 Cape Farr seals. First at the kill means a feast. And some of the best parts of the film are when Nemo and Dory are just together and Dory, her forgetful self, is just running into him and they meet each other for the first time over and over and over again. Hey! Wait! A swim here. Correlate out a couple of piddly scenes and I did some earlier but if you want a little bit more, here's what I'm going to give you. Great action, great set pieces. Then, of course, we have the whole prison break sequence where we go into kind of a first person perspective with Dash out running a bunch of henchmen. I mean, the whole thing is just spectacular. I think there was a zebra somewhere in the background who's, of course, part of the elephant family. Oh, I see what you did there. I know a movie isn't required to have a villain of sorts but I think it takes it to a whole other level. I mean, Hans Gruber and Die Hard made that thing what it is today and we have Syndrome in The Incredibles who, I think, takes it to level 10 out of possible 10 levels. Sure it was difficult, but you are worth it. I mean, after all... I am your biggest fan. That's your scales, the 10 out of 10 levels. Yeah. We're going to crank it to 11 because I agree with Adam. A movie doesn't always have to have a villain. In Finding Nemo, the villain is really time and it's the adventure that somebody takes on you know, Homeward Bound style. And we sucked. Totally.  All by themselves? Jump. We've battled our two Pixar films together. Now, let us know what you think. Let us know what your favorite Pixar movie is. Just comment on the video page below. Getting through obstacles is pretty easy when you have superpowers but Little Nemo's adventures through the beautiful oceans of something different. Can we do like a tour? Come with Nemo as we go on an adventure through the ocean. We see Gola just call it reefs. Getting through obstacles is pretty easy when you have superpowers. I'm like getting through this sentence getting through obstacles is quite easy. Troubled waters. Troubled scripts. Troubled waters. Troubled sentence. That's your scale. There's just 10 levels to every movie. At least. Well, I guess that's max. At least. There's probably 50.


So thanks for all the wonderful talks we presented from the personal experiences and from the experiences of your companies. So I would like to start with, we are seeing three main models which are coming out in the infrastructure space. One is hyper-converged, one is multi-cloud and one is private only when looking for structures. So what do you think about how the way infrastructure... I mean there used to be a time where most of the customers or most of the clients used to have one single vendor for all their needs. But right now you see there's a diverse applications and people are having homegrown software for their own needs.  They go Microsoft, even companies like Red Hat or Apple don't seem to have a space here and companies like Netflix, Uber and companies like that have a name in infrastructure space. So do we see the transition going on? Definitely there is a lot of innovation happening from the tech space. And at this age there are a lot of open source coming up, right? So they are able to share the community and just work across the companies to deliver some product. Like I mentioned, Red Hat and White Hat. So it's been done by multiple companies. It's still been open source but a lot of companies actually can't do that. At least with this new product companies are becoming the new innovators in the space. And also they can talk about the multi-cloud, right? So there are some pre-built services for each cloud. Yeah, most feature range is AWS. But I say some things are better than the other public clubs. Like Google has a good RTA system where we can just modify and shift it forward. So you shouldn't say that we can just go and check with one public cloud because there is something which is offering at the same cost and doesn't get better. So we should just go and get to more software. Or you can say that, say, I'll just use your RTA, right? Why don't you need to use RTA? You just need to go and do it. When you patronize local workloads or the other guys are giving the system with a better performance, we should definitely go for it. And I think, personally, one of the things I would probably like to see in the morning sessions or probably in the next discussions that we have is SpotEx. So it's been one of the leading, let's say, the myth breaker into this entire multi-cloud. Essentially, you pioneer the entire spot system in AWS and say, look, here we are. We can help you make sense of the spot system, right? Again, a lot of people innovated with a lot of, let's say, scripts and so on just to figure out how to make sense of the spot system and reduce your cost and so on. SpotEx, sorry. So it essentially changed the game on its head. And it said, look, we can make sense of this entire spot system. And that was the initial task. And later on, what they did is they also said, we can take the same approach everywhere, right? You can literally plug in SpotEx to any infrastructure part. So that is one of the new thrust areas as far as this entire multi-cloud approach is coming out to be. And part of the reason is because of the stateless containers in Dockers and Rancher and SpotEx kind of people who are essentially acting as a multi-cloud broker, so to speak, right? They are essentially building in a catalog of services and you can run your multi-cloud app. So that has led to the support of this multi-cloud device. Whereas even a couple of years back, you didn't have this much, this many multi-cloud requirements, so to speak. So my concept also was exactly the same. So previously, when we were building the product, we were more focused on getting things to work. Then recently, about six months back, we increased the team and then we found out that we now have a separate team who can handle the scaling issues. All the client is sparking. So we use sparking to handle as well. So this kind of multi-cloud approach is now possible for us. And we are heavily into AWS, but we do want to start looking into Google Cloud or Azure for the features that they offer. Not only the equipment, it's not just the credits, but the features that they offer. So, for example, Azure's most TV right, so you can literally replicate your data across multiple systems. So those kind of features are, it is more useful for some of the products that we build. So those features are more important than when you have a better provider to provide those things. It's a big thing to shift. So this brings to an expression, what is the cost of this innovation? There's always a cost, I mean, most of the people in operations are developed in BC, across benefit lands and pros and cons. So what is the cost which the developers would take out the devops? So the cost is, to give an example, right? So I have seen a lot of startups have their own way of handling spot instance. I think Indix has their own method, and if I am going to write to Bangor, there was Mapo, so some of the startups have their own way of handling these kinds of spot instance management. And we also said, okay, it makes sense to build such a tool. But when we saw spot instance, it made sense, okay, this is so easy to set up. Why should we even worry building such a thing? We have spent a few months to build it and then test it and maybe maintain all those things. So that is the cost we want to avoid. And if this is just a program where devops guy was able to set spot instance ready and it was running in less than two or three days, right? So that is an advantage for us. So I think it's useful to have ready made things. But the important thing to note here is we are basically our primary IP belongs in this. And we don't use AWS machine learning tools or those kind of things. So we build our own models also. So our IP, we make sure that we develop it and we protect it. But these kind of infrastructure things, we are not too... At this stage of the company, we spend a lot of time on resources on that. That is a great problem. Yeah, I think I would like... I like that bit that you said in the morning that the first thing you guys were actually testing in a data setup was the noisy neighborhood problem. And that again brings me to that cost of innovation thing. So I have seen studies and papers and scripts. And people have written how to do predictable instance firing and they set the choice to figure out what is my ideal instance and add that to the cluster. So that to me is like a lack of focus on the fundamental problem that we are trying to solve. It's a cliche thing but Elon Musk has principles. He says like, what are you trying to solve is the first fundamental question that you have to answer. Now, there are very, very simple solutions. Like we just made a choice to go dedicated for that particular instance. You don't have to innovate for that particular context. And I can point out like literally not just on AWS. This is like cross clouds. There are people basically like innovate for the sake of innovating without adding any real value. And that can actually take your focus away from the actual problem that you want to solve. And again, coming back to the cost of innovation. So here's one question that we asked internally. It says like, what is the cost of finding cost? Right, so that's like a food for thought for most people. Like at what price do you want to save cost? So that if you were able to answer that it helps you with your product planning and so on. So the cost of innovation, you won't find on the money clock rate. So I don't think that we need to go on just to break down your app and put some part in your other code and some part here, right? As a growing company in anything. So you'll be keep adding the interest for this. So whether it can be your marketing services, maybe at the, say, in the certain stage of business, we don't have anything for big insights. So I don't use a very extensive experience solution. Where anybody in the company can see, it's like how many kids are growing, how many nodes are created, how many customers are there. Those kind of insights to do the capacity. So those kind of things we can have the workload and try it out on the other codes. So you don't need to essentially add up other cost incentives. I would say that when you're actually trying out a new code for the smaller project, it actually runs for free. Instead of writing in your AWS and putting up other stack, doing the same thing. You can very well try Azure, GCP and try out. So that if you fail it, so you're not going to do anything because you can just apply it. It's not a very critical service where you're running. It's a new service where you're trying it out. You can very well try it out. The next question. In this whole speaking world, of course, at what point do you think the company will be more away from cloud services and go to their private projects? So to be frank, maybe I will... When you have the sophistication of an R&D, an experimentation on the cloud, I would say that it will be the reverse. So people always want to come to the cloud rather than having their own data system. Even our competitors where they maintain their own data, they start going to the cloud now. Maybe they start before AWS is so popular, or GCP is so popular. But for the sophistication we have, it's easy to get a sophistication even for a company when you are running on cloud because they take care of all the physical checks on their side. You don't need to maintain all these things. And if you are building a company from India for the global market, it's like a first desk, not any particular region is on focus, you need to maintain two different things because building a data center in India is a bit of a challenge. So you won't have that gigabits of bandwidth available for free and which is reliable. Free is another thing, right? Reliable is a different story. So having two different buildings in two geolocations being there in India, I don't think it's kind of... I would never say no, but still I feel public cloud will be the future rather than keeping your own info. I think it will not be a one-size-fits-all approach for sure because we still see the big players again going back to the private cloud. So I think the private cloud it's actually a misnomer if you ask me these days. The private cloud is essentially a dedicated public cloud for you. That it is, right? So it's not really like you are lacking stacking servers anymore, buying and so on. So you are just going to talk to a big player and say, look, like, what is the private cloud doing these days? Mintra did some time back and so on. So they go to some providers and say, look, we need like a thousand boxes. They'll get that thing done. So it's more of a... essentially like a dedicated public cloud for you. But I think the good question to answer is what kind of workloads you want to be reaching to be able to justify the hybrid existence of your dedicated public cloud into a pure play public cloud? Because one thing is like, if you go to even AWS or Azure or TCP, if you get like a fairly dedicated public cloud, essentially an RA is a private cloud, right? In this purest commercial sense, an RA is a private cloud. You can't do anything with it. It's almost like you're signed a contract with a physical vendor. So it's almost like a private cloud for you. But I think the real question is, what kind of cost perth is there which justifies bursting into the public space and by definition, public as in the mighty cloud space. So that every organization will have to figure that number out. There are like you said, there are organizations customer facing which face like instance includes, for example, Netflix is probably one of the big examples of instance includes on his server all day. So you never have a dull moment in Netflix's operations life. This is what a lot of people blog and so on. So it will be different for different customers. It might be different for a company like Matt Street there. It might be different for everyone's profile. So I think the question would be to what percentage of your workload is going to be fairly static, which are going to convert it into either a private cloud or like a semi private cloud as in an RA or like a fairly dedicated instances and so on. So I think that is probably the question for a lot of us. So I also agree, 9th and 8th percentage of the time, share of the cloud if you want to do this. So that works 19th percentage of the time and unless you have very specific needs like any kind of performance you want to equal the transmitters performance or performance things then only you need to go there. But the flexibility that Amazon or DC those kind of things provide and the ability to spin up few hundreds of thousands of nodes immediately that is the thing that you can't get in your private cloud. But to say about the performance part, there are few use cases that would need this because we have been trying to do some benchmarking of our media processing on GPU and all those things. So there are few use cases where the virtualization layer has slowed down a lot of things and we feel that one of those specific pieces could make sense to move out of cloud provider into having its own dedicated boxes or things like that. But those use cases are very, very limited and any kind of, most of the other problems can be solved using Amazon or DC. So another question is we have seen a lot of change in the culture with developers and the operations of the last decade and now it's become, there has been some kind of a truce before it used to be all over the place almost fighting with sports or something like that. So personally how has the DevOps, I mean the term was also calling DevOps so how is the whole culture shift within your own organizations between the developers and the operations? So personally I have been involved mostly on both sides right from the beginning for more than a decade I have been in both ops and there and a lot of times I see people coming in and saying I'm a DevOps guy and I ask them what kind of developer have you done and I say I just handled the servers. So it's kind of a funny thing right so a lot of people say they are DevOps but they don't do the DevOps part of it they don't develop the tools or things that are needed. I think personally I have been doing both sides of the things so both DevOps and ops have been handling all the infrastructure and as well as building the products there's been a mix for me all along my life through all the startups. So for a startup with a startup rate so there is no other goal you will be forced to do the ops so there is no reason you can't say that I will do a recruitment ops, get your COE to queue so you need to, somebody needs to pick up the ops and start loving it but as I told in the talk right so now we can reach there is no difference between your code and your infra until unless you know how your infra works this is what is there in the infra where you can actually architect something like so you can't say that okay I would like to architect some key values too and say that you don't know radius you can't start creating radius so you know that the radius will be there radius will be on the cluster board it has the shatter, infra and it has a higher value all these things you need to know before you are in your code so now there is no difference between those two as I said there is like now with the DevOps there won't work so people just starting with the AWS instance so maybe it comes from an example but as it is you architect the code the code that actually works so you can only architect the code only if it actually knows how it actually has the infra lined up for you and that you see a sense of achievement or whatever right so because you are actually taking up the ownership of what's being sold to the consumers it's not like something wrong with the consumer it's not like some X-Gay is going to get caught or off-screen so the developers need to take care of what's really happening for them and start something I think Bannert Schwartz one of the people I met he is doing the startup program for this he I think recently went back to he said the DevOps as a term is dead you won't do it anymore but to be fair what I have seen let's say in the last five years is that there has been a tremendous improvement in understanding of operational concept from the developer side not necessarily the other way so that has been slightly a trend these days you have developers who are so interested in being first-ever wanting to know more about it and part of it is also that they are being forced to because you essentially have distributed components these days I don't think any fresh organization is coming up and doing the monolithic or the x-ray anymore so that's all legacy I think one of the good positive changes this has brought developers have a real solid understanding of how the ops world runs and so on but not necessarily the other way I think the other way it's still calling themselves DevOps and not really trying to figure out the programming paradigms what happens if this happens and so on so that has been kind of a slight shortcoming from the operational side in terms of no one has tried any real effort to understand how the world runs so although the other side there has been a tremendous effort so I think the CIS admin world the typical system admin needs to step on as well go to the the world more rather than just calling themselves a dev because they write scripts that is not a functional role anymore so they have to go deep into the better world understand how the latest tax works so if you were to pick real for technologies which you are really interested in solving a lot of a lot of the problems over the past the problems which you have solved and what would be like technologies like deployments, contributions contributions it could be anything like for the tools or you know for the tools which people might not have used in their stacks giving it to the devops yeah yeah so one thing we use a lot was Ansible basically we saw how Ansible previously I used to have a puppet and I tried to shift a bit and it was horrible to think in that kind of way so Ansible made sense for us also its decision it is the build here you can write here so of course one good thing that happened and I think it was a more in terms of wondering we personally use different kinds of things so Elkstack is one thing that we use a lot and we also have our interest to be cluster and static so interest to be and kibana and this is the two things that we use on the monitoring side but I have heard a lot of good things that are coming out in terms of for me just right so I do want to go into that and see how it is working but I haven't had the time to do that so this is our monitoring side and what about the container of the station system so for work we don't use Kubernetes we use AWS ECS but personally I have been playing around with Kubernetes and where it has been Elk project itself is amazing the community is also great and so easy to start your services and deploy it on the cloud and it is quite easy so I think we would want to have if AWS has something like GC for Kubernetes to be a great feature and maybe that could be one reason why we might just do GC to cut this so I think Kubernetes is a great project I think I have to second that Kubernetes is something that has made a massive difference probably like I said, slightly in-game there most of the head like from let's say your new source and so on there is a clear pattern there like Kubernetes is the better having said that I have been most impressed with two things in fact one is Lancer which is essentially a meta of the Kubernetes where you can essentially manage any container platform and make sense of everything that you need in the container organization platform and supports Mighty Cloud out of the park so that has given like a real boost to at least the stateless container deployments that I have seen and the other two important things that I have seen which has not been probably as much talked about is the cloud era stuff for the essentially the map reduce requirements and your big data requirements so not much traction but you see very good designs with people who abuse that that's again like a very very good open source project so a lot of traction and so on apart from that there is a small tool which always goes hand in hand with me when I speak of VLK I always say Elastalite so you can never run an organized VLK system without Elastalite so it's like one of the most underrated piece of add-on equipment for any tool so you can do like lots of analytics itself do like lots of regular expressions counting mathematical functions everything can be done in Elastalite itself and you can make sense of the data rather than just team close data that's for whatever so for us it's elastic search so we use for many many different things we use for monitoring we use for our own search and we use even as a data store where we can generate even the gash codes for our customers it's not for ops use tapes so because an army is going to have only scale and an army can have each other only for some level but if you knock up deep page nations elastic search can give you what role what not they argue so even ease of it and we are very thankful for Redis so Redis actually we use it a lot so without Redis having to store our state or to store the cash or anything so we use Redis so we use it in a cluster environment and I'm saying Terraform Terraform is actually scaling on the template inside it's pretty easy to write Terraform for it developer because it's easy to understand okay I want this I want this configuration this is how I like to look at this stack those things for the past 4 years I would say ops works so that is our predominant deployment tool for GCP we use Kubernetes but ops works is where we are running everything so we use that as a continuation service we use for our deployments for the management with all these questions so how do you guys typically manage your development investment for the development do you still prefer to host your dev infrastructure on your layers or anything or you prefer to have a platform setup which sort of mimics the production environment so I work for RCCM so what we typically do is we write wrappers around most of the common APIs that are available and we sort of have internal versions of all these things though they don't give the same performance levels or anywhere close to the one production environment is going to give us but at least that will help us to save a lot of dev cost when it comes to when it comes to the development what is the practice that you guys follow for your development so for the dev we don't keep the developers so we actually try to mimic as much as they do this weekend but there are spiked out of services where you don't need to mimic what they do so it's like say arrange a deployments it's like running on your bare metal if it is running on your map there won't be any difference whether it runs on your easy tool or runs on your mission so for those things you don't need to mimic but we mimic something like NSQS and DynamoDB those kind of things we can use a lot of open source by Netflix and also Spotify so where they have the same thing how do we express what they have with open source which does the same I'm slightly opinionated on this so as a principle nobody should be having servers with them so this is what we think so and faculty the cost of power, electricity and the purest state of running these racks and so on so I once saw like a conference room in Brigadier Magno full of servers to 3 racks right that rank for one month could have bought those servers for like one year fully so the economics of it doesn't make sense and you also need like a digital system and support and so on so you are far better off on the probably on the same cloud or at least like on an alternate cloud at least but it should be as close to production as possible so I've seen people like use a bit of background and so on and so forth on their local laptops that's the only thing that should run within your office anything you want to host and make it accessible my belief is that it should be on probably the same infra that your production run if you have your production on AWS using like 10 micro managed services from AWS, US states should exactly replicate that then micro services is what we have seen because otherwise it ends up complicating their cycles because there are so many regressions that can happen because somebody assumed something was there in which pre-existent production so a lot of such regressions happen and the cost benefits that you get eventually if you look at it as a holistic package is not worth it yeah so for me when I say it's local it's on your mic yeah exactly so that's the max you can otherwise though it should go to the details so our expense was similar like previously I used to use background now we started using Docker Compose to have all our jammer applications or those kind of things but when we need to interface with anything that AWS probably say is a desk use or DanmoDB we do put it on the cloud and then we do our dev run so we haven't yet tried those kind of I know that there are a few open societies which can mimic the space or DanmoDB but we haven't yet tried them out but putting it on AWS and running it is much more easier and we can just run it after so there's no cost associated with that but this is something that it depends on your style right so if you want to have everything on local and tested then you would want this but there are a few services that even our microservices itself there are a few pieces that are very heavy made and we cannot run that on local normal map so in those cases we definitely have a goal So couple of questions so do you guys who run production workloads in containers haven't you had any issues with Docker whatsoever hasn't it been causing any kind of panics or any sort of issues that brings down your infrastructure or does it just work out of the box like 100% of them all? So I've seen some comments on standalone talkers like even about Kubernetes and so on so in fact the last one thing I had there was a heated discussion on why the talker monitoring is not as good as it can potentially be and we started from that problem and which is how we came across Rancel as a piece itself so one of the things that it does is it treats every container which is obviously stateless as mutable so once you have the determination and once you are able to kill any Docker container at your own will then you solve the problem right? The first thing that can happen is like your Docker is not responsive and if you leave it it will eventually bring the entire machine down so if you are able to preempt that from happening and the first sign of that is that Docker stops responding to your HTTP or whatever API request that you have now if your orchestration solution at a container level is going to say look buy my health check this container is down that should be the first sign you kill that container or restart that container or just kill it and launch one more thing if you are able to proactively do this you will not face exponential degradation with Docker bringing other Docker and so on so that is one bit learning that we have had with this second thing is I think the limit setting with the latest kernel in terms of how much resources a Docker can use it's much more rigorous than probably when Docker stuck it out so you are able to essentially localize the problem to a local Docker now much better than let's say like a couple of years back so that has helped your experience so from our experience we don't use Docker for too heavy things so we haven't faced this kind of problems but to give you an example on the long Docker side if you remember Batman it is a memory intensive process and the actually it's going to have a mix and it's going to go and stop responding so it has happened a lot and it keeps happening and the easiest solution is what he said kill the mission and move on with the next mission treat your servers or treat your infrastructure as cattle and not quite straight so you have other missions other servers ready other containers ready and then you don't have to worry about the non-responsive state so that's the my primary thing is when you have such issues you can still get away with the resource limits problem by using SQLs I necessarily don't have to use Docker so that is why I feel it is a personal opinion me source is a very underrated tool because it helps you run non-container deployments with all the resource constraints at Docker for one of our primary reasons why I am not a huge fan of Kubernetes because I can't run non-docker container server Kubernetes whereas my NISO is not a concept I can do that and now for the latest version I have all the notions of pods I have all the notions of full deployments I have this increased control and equivalent there every all features a component of fancy comes with me with just the container abstraction I get everything with all the containers so I have I mean and also the other thing is there are containers we can say it's easy to package every deployments together and together but as an organization you don't change your stack so often it's it's only a practical thing that in a single organization you don't run like 20 or 30 different stacks that you actually need an option of an image that you need an option of a complete isolated stack and you would obviously going to use three or four languages maximum that it's it's going to go out of the family if you use four and your stack or the versioning will also be on par for most of the cases something like Heropoop it packs work most of the times this whole notion of containers I mean I understand I'm a huge fan of catons I'm a huge fan of research limitations that C-groups offers but not a huge fan of containers because they force me to use something especially a system that's running in production which has thousands of issues open on behalf of me and the common response I get is upgrade your kernel, upgrade your operating system as an office person that's not a feasible solution for me every time I upgrade you're asking me to upgrade my kernel version I'm not a huge fan of that so how do you sort of promote or how do you guys accept using a system like that in production of course there are good user stories use cases where Docker is successful but I don't know if everybody is going to have the same set of experience so do you guys have any thoughts of doing on that? Like I said it's not just about the deployment and the scaling up perspective in itself container the way I see it it's more of a paradigm for the entire dev cycles to run through and so on and I've seen places where there are about 70-80 microservices and so on in fairly large organization you might have one single language you don't even have to go 3-4 languages but I've still seen cross functional teams have better coordination localization of problems with microservices so that is one of the biggest pushers for change in the container world because let's take these examples of the let's say someone who's running a top 50 LXSI he has like potential 300 developers right now to achieve a certain sense of coordination and to ensure that one guy's commit does not break other guy's code but of course you can track them project management and stuff and so on but it's essentially localization of the problem via microservices which lends itself for much better auditing and profitability and I think that is probably the reason why Docker in itself is so popular but I think apart from that the newer generation tools like for example if you look at Rancher essentially doesn't care whether the underlying info is Docker right so I think it essentially becomes like a package to you you can even run a big binary like your Go and so on or you can run your resource infrastructure so I think Docker or the container in itself it's just another of those phenomenon five years down the line we might not have what it is today but I think the overall concepts of having mutable instances and being able to deploy them and package them in a very very proficient and basically like a rapid clip from zero to thousand so those are the fundamental paradigms which will stay and people will learn from Docker and it will just like any other technology probably like five years ten years down the line it might not exist the way that we see today but the learnings of mutable instances rapid provisioning of containers via bots or whatever those are the main concepts in a multi-cloud world that will stay rather than the actual like to say it's like a very tricky jet top issues page if you see right so but a lot of people do work with it and have seen like fairly top 10, top 50 sites run and Docker and so on so not major problems as such so it's not as bad as the comments or the issues page looks like but it's still something that is still a work in progress nobody can say Docker is so mature that's for sure so one of the things which I have observed is so we redistribute Kubernetes as open shift in the end so this is the thing the adoption of it is growing as in we want to try it out but if you take a look at the number of top applications that people are trying to run on container orchestration system are straightforward applications like your databases and all so there has been problems but also the thing is the community is pretty open and you're getting it's a growing community and people are trying to solve these problems together like if you take a look at the communities that have grown our own Kubernetes with CNCRF and there have been standardizing processes around what these interfaces need to look like and what's the response time from each of these API calls so other companies or communities can write their tools around this or adopt their tools with these tools yeah it has been a paradigm shift as Inran says because it's becoming more in the sense that you're not going to go provisioning these systems in this data center in this place it's more like this is my requirement what do you have give this requirement to me it's it's changing for the operations so yes there are problems but yeah even bigger companies are throwing their weight behind these technologies and for adoption also so hopefully it should be sorted and we will not recommend the latest kernel to be there in all the production systems but we do recommend having the most stable interfaces in their production systems if you don't need any more technology and stability makes more sense to you most of the governments or financial companies usually they say they usually say use the N-2 version of this one so it's more stable don't use the N-2 version of anything but if you take a look at it container operations systems are giving confidence to people for running the N-2 version itself nobody is packaging it into a Debian package or Arkin package anymore they are actually deploying their GitHub source codes to containers and then taking it to production so this is what I'm going to say any other questions thanks for writing thanks a lot thanks for sharing your experiences thank you


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