1999 other life a lot You're now tuned into me me me me me me me me me me made I was worth a game Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. You're tuned into me and I was worth a game man. That was hemo vibes, right? Hevo vibes Vo vibes 19 out on YouTube man. 99 official Spitin, you know, you know how that go but listen man You know, I'm right here with the one and only man. This is the West Side Edition, man.  Don't introduce me. Don't get tough cuz we got I'm just telling you guys Night depends on what I'm gangbanging the date nigga.  Don't get tough man Listen, we ain't we ain't gotta get we ain't gotta get tough man. Don't do that man Listen, oh man, you say whatever I go by the name of gilly the king. I'm a little two six seven got my man Tony the closer here. We got some special Special special guest today I mean, what you mean two two seven is two six seven No, I don't do that. Come on man. Don't do that cuz we don't get sad Yeah, but that what he got the name from that's what I'm saying see see this is come on you You got two special people today two special individuals to my my track mates in the penitentiary, man And two instant institutionalized brothers. That's uh Extremely institutionalized sit on the phone. I sit on four with us three us four together And all they do is have jail stories and I'm like All right, cool. That smoke salmon was a thing smoke clams Hold on before we get to that. Let's get into our first sponsor power barstool sports Me and I was worth a game is bought to you by Amazon music I've told you I've been using Amazon music for a while It's been amazing from the start as a part of my prime day prime members can get four months of Amazon music Unlimited for just 99 cents that access to 60 million songs on demand add free That mean you ain't got listed on commercials. You ain't got a listen to no ads For less than a dollar. Hmm. Oh, yeah. 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Thank you for all the 60s not from power room But if something's going on wherever it's going on we are we will be the same thing politics So big you I see you shiggy What that means you was I was born in the ghetto Thank you Okay, and I'm the king of R&B Yeah, I don't think so because I just you off right now. I just did that. Okay. I love it But I'm from the Rolando's and sent us I Have no idea what that means.  That's what I'm listening to us. Oh, that's previously Okay What you see, okay, we're on the same page yummy, okay, so When did the Bloods and the Crips Kind of start kicking it together. I Don't know when the overall bloods and cribs. I don't know what they do. I know what we do Well, the bloods and the Crips originally started keeping together because the bloods came from the Crips Definitely not so you was already So the bloods is Cripp babies definitely not Crips what it is, right? It's the same thing as the Obama thing and slavery in the White House right something been in no press and come up to be Stronger than what they thought it would be and they want to be associated with what the Dom moves like that, you know God damn well, right? You see, I'm letting you have a turn.  Where you get that from now you want to know now Let me get the floor facts in history. Let him give me history. That's what we're here for so the first thing in the planet was Crips The first star was a blue star so it was no bloods. No, it's no bloods First thing was Raymond Washington take it back to original form They started doing the way we do gangbangers There was always gangs businessmen journeymen's and all that so forth and then there came Raymond Washington And they created that new form of what we see now is Crips and bloods Crips came first in bloods came shortly after that, but before bloods there was pyros So originally before pyro street You know saying they was kind of like creeping over there, too And then the brothers of on pyro street took on that name and they took on the red banner So it kind of like we all said blood the word blood Like everybody didn't really have a connotation to red or blue because we all said it then somewhere about 70 I got to horsemen is 79 so 79 it started representing Blood was representing the red rag and then cuz representing the blue rag. So after about 79 80 It went to where the word BLOD stuff for the red side and so But the power rules Was a stiff there was a street out of Compton and they start forming that after the Crips to again Oh, listen, we won't take away from Crips was Here I mean it was really here. Hey, wait.  They was protecting the community man. It's some other shit, right, but Ain't no Crips came over there and preach Lord preach. Listen We won't y'all to be the power We won't y'all to be our right No Crips came over there who creates their opposition. I didn't say that no That's exactly what you said by so the bloods came from the Crips No A lot of That like if you go back like even for instance if you ever interview Nick Cannon he'll tell you His father them was original Crips It goes the same way Original pyro they're gonna tell you that was Crips for everything in San Diego. There was Crips Originated from up here. There's no 59th Street in San Diego Five nine brim come from your area, you know telling the truth skyline You are over talking the question branch from So whatever the hell they was doing down in San Diego primarily was totally we was oblivious to that You know that am I Biden he's Trump? Oh Y'all got something to come No Trump gonna tell you what's gonna happen get ready for it. Yeah, at least it's a devil Because Lucifer they say Lucifer look good and he was cutting mother's from behind By so let me ask you a question. So is what he said true if you go to the original parus They was Chris. No, they definitely won Chris what he's saying is like he said a lot of people said blood A lot of people said cuz too because in blood. He knows meant something totally different. It was a Cuz didn't mean you creeping no cuz still don't mean you creeping in a lot of places The original like the question the answer the question is if we got to be intelligent we will address these things What I don't mean all bloods are all Paruse I'm just letting you know the history of it cuz it started like on the east side Raymond Watson Then they started moving so then as different fractions Because it was wasn't everybody like saying Crip. So it different fractions like When it was you know, you go to different school and one thing is moving here This different group of groups everybody claiming Crip then naturally as it goes from school to school places and places People start wanting to be the opposition to that. Mm-hmm. So then as an opposition you start having people that I don't want to be a Crip So but those who were already Crips Start saying for whatever reason they start beefing with dudes whatever reason then they start changing it changed over to be other The history and I know whatever no no and I know it's some factor what he said Yeah, I do know it's a little factor Listen no because listen, I was listening. I was in the studio with a young in from Camden and he said New Jersey. Yeah Camden, New Jersey. Yeah, they turn where they got a lot of and he said I'm a boy. He was saying he a blood or whatever.    Hold on.  They weren't Pairu's like it was a day.  Mm-hmm.  They wasn't red No, no, but no you're saying like they was creeping and then we went that way Oh, no, I never said it's Pairu's a crib. No, you said we can't if I did I didn't play I'm saying we came from y'all cuz I was only referencing a Pairu to my side So I use Pairu Street. Give your history Pairu Street, right, but before any of that It was a creeper there. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fight you on that And wait and it didn't what it didn't mean but what charm would it mean to see one of 69 Anything after that? second It's second you mean Crippin Second no, definitely not Because in our world and our world we always gonna be proud man. He know that You know that one thing he know listen For five six to one when it started Y'all come on my nigga when a homie when a homie start creeping start Pairu and blood You niggas was all way already deep as a motherfucker was you not what you mean? No, no, no exactly my point. No, but watch this over look. Well, look here goes the point When they seen it evolve it They couldn't stop it. It was over y'all can't stop it over. What you mean? It's stronger ever did stronger than dating No, see, I'm not a part of that what you mean It was over out of heaven. Let it would have been reversed six bloods six power rules to one That's not true though. We wouldn't allow y'all to flourish It wouldn't happen How could y'all just it's easier than six to one nigga?   No, that was a long time before that I Start way on the igna stuff way before that when you had that Jerry curl now cut it off Wait, what was it? Listen, I could have Jerry curl off. I left all the Ignorance Bobby with his crimping and blood. Yeah, but his internal Cripping Crip beef.  No We went to the pen you read me Couldn't even walk a yard with more than four sixties on the yard. That's why do you think that was that's because I don't think they would say Do right here in this file can't be on the yard. If it's any more than four Confirm ignorance that because I was at the police. No, no, no, that is safe And a prison yard I had some I had majority of my cases was on officers starting from my Cross-race in 1991 all of my cases are officers because you really know karate though, right? I knew him I grew up with him.  I'm talking to you know karate Yeah, me a while. Oh, yeah, thank you.  No, no, no, no People know my name out here in the martial arts. Okay, you know that they told me in this prison They was told mommy and Tino and said Queen.  It's cool.  Well, yeah resting piece of nipsey house So that's the difference. So we're gonna get to that right now. No, what do we know the movie?  Yeah, yeah No, but I seen even got the movie the one yeah, V Shout out the wack up. So so, you know what meet big you know Kicking in here. I'm saying so I talked to a nigga, right? From Philly that live out here and the niggas say Yeah, man, I see you be you be hanging with draws. I said what?  He's over. No, you'd be withdrawals. I Said dog.    I'm confused.  Yo, he was a lifeguard in the prison showers Hannibal No, that's what I was. Oh, yeah, I forgot. This is other name.  This is the most funny part about it, right?   What's up? Shit, nothing much.    I had your mama waiting two three hours called you a bust.  Hold up.  Y'all had to get permission to come on side. I had the tax. Oh, your niggas had to get permission No, nigga, nigga. We don't have you lying. Hey, he on the grab Nigga we can I'm telling you niggas You'll tell you this I always take a day Man, I know he was running. I was running every goddamn when we was just out in Atlanta We run him We get to the room at five in the morning back up eight in the morning running again So when I get back off the plane Why don't you take a day to just So, okay, so let's get this right. I'm gonna hear because it's y'all because you was running and you that's why That's why I had to ask boss lady could you Could you damn sure turned that phone? Well, she was supposed to come up with an excuse for me not to come because I set it up for the morning And then once she said I could come out you could go. I had to get up and come down there You was laying. Oh, let me tell you about I was coming out of the honeycomb hideout We in the Dominican Republic, right? We weren't even supposed to come out. Listen. We in the Dominican Republic, right? No, matter of fact, we in st. Tom is me my wife Big you his wife big softy Ving rames. You don't break right down as soon as you say something. So We sitting at the table His wife Stacy tell him Yeah, nigga, because you're getting so I don't know what he was having a personal conversation. Hold on You know Stacy da Muto What? Whoa Yeah Come through a whole girl. Yeah, you don't marry in you go out. No. No. Hold on. No. No. Oh Oh, so yeah, come on. So you wouldn't gotta out of the yeah, he knew what He knew what I'm saying.  I went through it with a couple of them. I had to train a couple of them In the right way Hey, look his enemies too. He went to a he didn't go to like At a train of movies He go to his rota 60s direct enemies.  She said yeah nigga, because you're getting solved What and he say I'm instigating damn getting solved So now was out the whole table. She looked right at me. Yeah, gilly nigga getting solved So now he gotta say now he gotta speak up. No, no, no, no.  Yeah, she looked at me. Listen. She looked at him and said Yeah, you're I go to sleep now cast this analogy You remember how you called me about a little youngster or a little family?    What you acted off emotion You tell him you just beat on wherever it was with one like I don't do Okay, you didn't want me because I could have lost more by being physical one of the homies who did something wrong Or I could have let that go and let everybody else see that I show mercy Sometime and her mind is no cut his ear off. You should at least cut his ear. You should have got some But every time you don't use brah So it's safe to say that it was growth involved. It was growth. That's No, she was she was like, no, you getting soft. She's like you should have and I'm like, no, but look at where But then we don't do it that way never had another problem since then still doing everything But hold on oh, bro, if we don't do it that way and we taking count Then they telling us we should make better decisions and we being too mean You know, I learned from youngsters. Let me tell you something I had a situation having one of my homeboys and they pay a pay a debt And he didn't do something And I called one of my other homies said look bring him to me So when he got to me but before he got to my homie said my other homie said Uh, you like you like pops, you know, you like, uh Like man, you were having a scared in the world because we can't make one mistake And so every since my little homeboy said that to me And he was basically talking for simply for somebody else.  Here go the problem.  Here go the problem, right?  So we're coming up like that, right? We never gotten trouble because it was a problem Even if we was wrong We squatted up because we had to squad we was head on squads and we went at the problem Whether it was a homie some enemies some older niggas, whoever it was. So As you get older, right? You're not really used to dealing with We just gonna smash you. Right. So by him saying And he right Because while he mentioned in Dale dog You got to remember it's some young niggas in there that got some of your traits, right?  Right, right?  He had never learned how to sound out the goddamn word Right. He'll say that to me about my nephew a lot because I'll be on him. Yeah What you mean? I'll just be on him. I just because you you breaking him. No, no I'll be on him. He ain't in the streets and that but I'll be on him because I'm not saying that I just be I understand What's going on with the youth and I understand how A simple ride you could lose your life a caption a caption on instagram. You could lose your life Like it's different. So I just be so much Like just just proud knowing to just be up on him about a little move like no You get it and give it like cuz you gotta let him, you know, gill. He does that a lot. He does that one thing I can say because I can go to his house. They can be 12 kids over there Ain't none of these kids got his last name Have the kids he don't know how long they've been there But you know, they get in there going to school going to football practice, but I'm gonna tell you what's happening These little motherfuckers right because they in that environment they in the 60s, right?  They're gonna do all that but then whack a shoe up at the house Right walking the door And they know oh, that's whack from par rule, right? Right.  So then I become unc You know what I'm saying?  Exactly. He does a lot of that So so with that the colors, right, you know, being from the east coast. I see our real You know, real heavy on the colors. What's what's acceptable?  Yeah Oh my god.  I mean speaking. What were you talking about? But there ain't nothing you try to go to war with me. No, this nigga Did you not try to go to war with me? You try to go to war with me.   Do I show up this nigga has do I show up bro? This nigga do I show up beefs in his head. No, I don't I put a cap on this thing and text one night.   You know, I you know why I did that You know why I did that you know why I did that you bought because you bought polo. No, that's not why Was you a cell gangster?  Were you telling what that means, bro?   Listen to me. You didn't know that We're gonna pull the picture all workouts are extensive. We got high stars. High stars dies in there Who told you to answer?  I didn't do none of that And you didn't do that either.   He was out here. No, he was draw. I don't know It's bad.  All of us was athletes were football We're positioned. I was wishbone quarterback or we tell back You was wishbone. Yeah, we were in the boat. You know what the niggas wish you to get in You know I was we tell back a wishbone quarterback Your wishbone quarter your bone quarterback is really a it's a runoff in so the fast No, he was good. California got the best football players coming about the hood Or florida or florida california or florida, you know, we I mean, you can't send them Wait, let's get Before we can you can't take nothing from california at all. Who won the tights? We put our more we put our more um more athletes than any hold on. Let's get to our next sponsor We're gonna get right into that for $15 a month Listen simply safe. We'll protect your home $15 a month. I'm telling my day I'm telling you to set it up yourself. But uh, if you go to simply safe.com slash game You'll get a free hd camera. I'm talking about a free hd camera. I'm talking about simply safe.com slash game $15 a month $15 a month to protect your home.  What you're doing? While you're looking in my window I'm security guy I'm day-day uncle. I'm big you simply safe.com slash game $15 a month.  So you get one of these but I'm gonna say this though I'm gonna say something hold up simply say marion shug night, right? Okay, legend respectfully absolutely Did he give you the game? Um the introduction to the game. Yeah But he did he allowed you to be in the world up close. You gonna stay in the game Definitely was he was he all that they say he is on the business side? Did he understand this music game? Well It all depends on what kind of business he was doing. I would say he got a he got a bad, um Wrap for a lot of positive things You know what I mean? Like you may hear about vanilla ice or hear about this hear about that What people not talking about is The little young black dude who produced ice ice baby and was old for a million dollars What they're not talking about is explain what they're not talking about is How he attempted to get his business done with vanilla ice and his team and they wouldn't do it So it came to shirk for assistance shirk first step was to had attorneys contact him and figured out That didn't work. So he wrote this black guy wrote ice ice baby. He did the beat You did the beating never got paid never got paid and they was pretty much telling them.    So at the end of the day when shirk exhausted All of the means of trying to communicate with this dude, you know the right way The only thing got it done was the wrong way which made it right So, you know, um A lot of things he did marry jay. She probably got a story or two to tell y'all shirk not helped her contracts KC and jojo the jodesy hammer hammer It's a lot of people to where it's kind of like in school. So shirk was just hanging niggas out there No, it's kind of like no, no, no, no No, he helped get their money because at the end of the day He he's trying to turn away in this way and that way this way and they ducking and dodging I mean this man over his old four million dollars, right? So at the end of the day, you know, it's a by any means necessary He started the right way. It just went the wrong way because you think about it who who not won't Sign that contract when he hanging off the balcony Yeah, but he listen, if you know, listen, if you know this lift You gonna you're gonna crack even after you sign a contract like a melon Even after you sign a contract when you in that type of situation If you know that contract was by force and it this contract is fraudulent, right?  Mm-hmm Right. So I would say that she got a lot of he got a lot of bad. He helped he helped Way more than people. Yeah. He helped a whole lot of people. He helped turn 30 cents A album to an artist to 30 percent Yeah, we do that with no he did what everybody He changed the pay scale of the industry.  Oh, they signing these independent labels that have these artists He created that lane for us. Yeah, right. He did he did all that. I can't take that from him. So, um It's a lot of things he didn't do But I mean, you know that it's it's a you know It's give and take with this shit and draws no because we didn't been through a lot of so you call them draws Well, look, we didn't been to a lot of situations, right?  Yeah, well, he knows what one more question See, I think you think draw means one more question. Yeah, one more question One more question if you call him panties. No, you don't he know better than that. We'll be squabbling outside. You said You said I thought it was all through and I do have that video y'all wrestling that ain't never came out That should have come out on whack 100 instagram page. Thank you.  Yeah Yes, I got it. And what was I I seen the Top out.  You know, I'm saying that alone But but back to sugar but but when it came to sugar is cut, you know draws and sugar is They smile more than me and sugar Right, you know, it's six months out of year is love.   No, just before that been our our environment. What you mean? Okay, come on y'all from Philly You go to school you watching killings and stabs and prostitution and dope dealing you get to school. You got to fight come back.    He's just humble now.    Let me ask you a question off script off script. Yeah Growing up on the east coast when we was in juvia and all that we read books about This side, you know outside of colors. We the book that we had in jail was monster cootie book Yeah, yeah, yeah great book a lot of lives, but great book was exaggerated Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Wait nigga What do you mean? Dad's rated house. There was a lot of it exaggerated. Wow. Monster cootie was a dofin crack Monster cootie was hold on they talk about monster cootie like like like how they speak on big U But I'm gonna say this you can't be a dofin Right, that means you fell victim to the game right and still get the same credit in the same statute as somebody that didn't understand what I'm saying?  You understand what I'm saying? He don't need no money. No, that ain't what I'm talking about. But what I'm saying though, if you tell them up, but they only need $75,000 to $100,000. When I don't watch niggas go spend a million dollars and they do everything that you do, but they ain't you. Spend it where though? Where you want me to spend it at?  I'm gonna spend it in the right place. Tell us what a niggas are right now. We're gonna spend it right here. We're gonna spend it right here. We're gonna spend it $75,000.  You can go get your two teams. And not be wet. Hold on, hold on. You can go get your two teams, right?  And put them on a retainer. It might cost you $15,000 a month. Right? How many months? 10 months is 150. No, you don't need to, listen, we play and listen. If an artist shows any traction, if you go on in this show, this dude got 250,000 monthly listeners and he got three songs that then did 800,000, 1.2 million, 2 million. Then he got some YouTube views over there where one song is 5 million, other one is 4 million and 3 million. We just talking like that.  What are they gonna get out of this, just 200,000? Listen what I'm trying to tell you. You can take two teams and put them to work on all those platforms, right? Get your numbers where they're supposed to be and develop your fan base, right?  Believe that. That's possible. And I can take his kids and I guarantee you by the bottom of first quarter, motherfucker's gonna be banging on that door and get him a bag.    Listen, you're gonna be, first of all, I'm there. You're gonna be sitting there. Well, now we got it on order. We got it on tape. You're gonna be sitting there. We got it on tape, right?  What a camera. What camera do you get? They want this and that. Listen, he gonna be like, they want this percent of this percent of that percentage. You know what I'm saying? We got a whack on tape saying they gonna take mac and cheese and he's gonna put this thing down. Hold up, hold up, hold up.  They wanna give you a million.  They ain't a 360.   They only want two albums. So what you talking about? I'm just saying. How much? How much? How much would you need to do that? I mean, with them? 75 hundred. Oh, I'm a wire to you right now. 75 hundred?   No, he said 75 to a hundred. Whatever.  You don't gotta sit there. I'ma give them the game. I told you that. No, no, send me the video. You don't sit down long enough to get it. I'm right here. You don't give me no game? Shit. You don't sit down long enough to get it. Man, you know how you got one of them brothers who wanna just always talk about what he got? Hold on. First of all, I'm still in research mode.  Wait, wait, exactly.  You ain't a researcher. You ain't a researcher. He just said the whole story so he can't be in research mode. He just told y'all a whole game, right? Just like anything else, just like Radio, you know this.  So what I've learned is that you gotta have at least five different teams. Cause any given day, these two motherfuckers might not be off. I just went to Atlanta with two more teams. I'm four teams strong right now with this shit, right? And they all hitting, right? So what I'm about to do right now is test these other two teams with true card, right? Cause I got this project done.  And I ain't tested it. Now if you wanna test it at the same time I'm testing, I'll let you do that.  You know, I'm from the old rules. The motherfucker don't do what he's supposed to do. I'm gonna run him this change back and then I gotta deal with it. So I'd rather go in and make sure it's solid. Make sure these people are who they say they are before I pass it. Now, if you wanna come in with me at the same time and we both know we wrote on the dice, I'd know what these motherfuckers had and it's that then we can do that.  I'm gonna say this though, you're right.   Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I get him, I get, I get us in the door. The motherfuckers ain't, we ain't even had him in the room. They heard two songs, two different labels.  I told you that. So he was talking some, I already had, we had, I had two. Let me ask you a question. I had two. Let me ask you a question. We activated them yet. So, so they, they just hear the records. He wanna get talking his records. They hear the records. They see the look. He had too many deals. Listen, listen, listen, listen. They hear the record. They hear the records. They see the look, but we ain't put the traction in yet. So how much money, how much, they just didn't do the single deal. Wait, how much money they gonna get?  They sell merch right now. No, no, no, no, no, no. They cool. You probably could have did a single deal for like 300. No, but we gonna come back. I was on it. We gonna come back. I was on it. I bust the moves. So we get the traction. We gonna come back. Well, how long ago has it been since you came back? No, no, it ain't been too long. It's not too long. It ain't been too long. It's been COVID. How long? COVID kicked in a little bit. No, but see, COVID ain't stopping the platforms.  No, no, no, no, no, no. Stream is up. Oh, no, no, no. It is. And it's about to be up. Stream is up. Radio. Streaming went down. Then it went down. But what I'm saying is you could have did a single deal for those young men, right? They wasn't giving them 300 whack. What was they giving them? They wasn't giving them 300. What was it? I could have made it happen. What was it? He started talking that record. He started talking that plus American in budget.   Hey, Wacky, you're not ass-niggas. See, I knew y'all was too. I had these people. I knew all three of y'all was not ass-niggas.  Let me ask you a question. I'm the only mother that you're allowed to get in. This is the reason why you should have went that way.   If you have the plugs and if you have the people you can go do what the label could do at that time. Yeah. So why you ain't did it? The label services. We doing it right now. Everything take time, bro. No, not these days. No, no, no, it do. It do. It take time. The music done? See, I'm like this. First of all, they had to complete the music.  I'm like, go. He went a whole lot. No, no, no. They had to complete the music. He know too much about the music. I'm a go boy. Let's go. So let me tell a story. Wait, let me ask you a question. I got it. I got it now. I got it now. My turn to speak. So just in speaking for Gilly, first they had to get it in their mind that they mac and cheese because first they were single with solo artists. And then he want to sell dope. He won't get locked up for selling dope. Let me finish. Let me finish. Sorry, but no, no, I can tell it. I got it, bro.  Oh, yes, he does. This is uncle talking. He has never sold drugs a day in his life. One is getting. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. One is holding the case.  They put it on him. I got it. I like that. Gilly, I'm going to come to your aid, bro, because I'm living that situation. Good, good, good, bro. Sorry. I'm living that situation. Break it down.  These niggas is acting like nuts. Thank you. One of them might be straight one minute. And I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. And then you don't never know.   To these niggas get it right. Right. To them get they master. So Matt, can I ask you a question?  Nope.  But listen, listen, what? Damn right. How much money? Hell no. How much money?  I lost a lot of money. A lot of money.  No, but I wasn't.  No, you told me. Oh, no, you told me that they walked in the room together and they liked the looks. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was what up. He couldn't make it. You didn't say that. You said they plural. No, no, that's why I love talking. He we just took it. See, you weren't here in the whole story. Because listen, I'm here in the whole story. And I'm looking at them the whole time.  He wanted to be a bootleg big niche at one time.    We got to do a solo project.   So then now they back a group.  It ain't me. You could take 75 to 100,000 and create your buzz and plant your seed to where labels might want to do some business with you. Absolutely.  Because I'm going to get things done. I've got to pay for it. But what's priceless is knowing what to do and having a relationship. Absolutely. You don't know what to do and how to go about doing it. It ain't going to get done. Because it's not about who you know it's about. I'm not about what you know about who you know, how you know. Let me ask you something. Rest in peace, Nipsey. When you first linked with Nipsey, how did it go? Music, how did how did this come about? Which means like. Like the music thing. The music thing. Um, shoot, um, I was just coming off.  And I was really like in grind mode. So I had like all the connections. We both had to get in the trunks. Yeah, it was kind of like what WAC say about, you know, you really having a connection to everybody. So it was really like between me, WAC, because me and WAC was like one on one. So really kind of like to keep one hundred. It's funny how it's funny how, um, when people talk about Nipsey, I got a major push from Gain for Nipsey. Like a Gain was really instrumental. And Gain was that artist who helped put, give us that glow in LA. You know what I'm saying? It was Snoop did a song for us. Then Gain.  That can't be wrong.  No, but Nip said that in the song on, on, on, on Bo and the Rap. He say that. He said, he slid up on him with that tape. First time they met, I got it on videotape. I got it on videotape. Nipsey's- It was, it was that. Now that might have happened, but I'm going to tell you the first time they ever met where Gain knew who Nipsey was, bro, was remember when we was doing the video and I brought, Gain was doing the video. Was it the Keisha Cole one? Well, I'm, I'm with that mansion. And I got it on videotape. Y'all the Keisha Cole. When I first brought in there, Gain, I didn't even know his name. I introduced Gain. He did the song. Gain said- That's what I- Me and Nipsey going to be, exactly. Me and Nipsey going to be the next Dr. Grain, Snoop and Gil, and that was his first game.  That's what I put Bam on my ladder house, the ladder, um, I love an hip hop in the game. I put Bam, you know, Bam from Compton. I put her in the, in the, Bam, the one with a, what's the name, Scrappy? Yeah. Yeah, so Bam showed up and she just did a layoff of K-Slap. But no, it was a gang of work, though. It was a lot, it was a lot of work, man. And, um, really the- But that was different back in, though, bro. But I'm going to tell you too, like nothing. These kids today- These kids today don't, don't have a work ethic. Like that was a difference between Nick. Right. That made them stand out past all the rest of my homeboys. And the thing about Nick- Cause he wanted it more. And the thing about Nick, when I met you back then, you know, Nick wasn't knowing yet, I think y'all was in the midst of talking to Sony, trying to get him a deal over over at Sony. And the thing that always stood out about Nick was, his mentality was past gang banging at a young age. You feel what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? You know, he could really think for himself. You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying?    But if you notice that, though, a lot of my homeboys like that, especially ones that I had with me. Cause it really wasn't like he was gonna, like I wanted a certain crew to move with me. Cause you need to be able to move with everybody. Cuzz, Bloods, and I wasn't really on that. I wasn't, not really wasn't. I wasn't on that period. It was a whole, since you gotta have a sense on it yourself. Cause I'ma be around dudes that you consider wants to be your enemies. And if that was your mentality, I didn't want you around me. So when I came home, I was instilling that. So it was, it was about- Because you was just fighting in the yard with niggas that wasn't Crips? I was riding for, exactly. I was just fighting in the yard with niggas who was just black. Black men. Cause in the rides you was talking about, it wasn't a world of situations. I was the only one on that yard that would have been affiliated with that. But going to the mindset when I came home, you gotta understand when I came home, my little homies who came to mess with me already knew where I was.  They already knew I was dealing with wack. They already knew I was running. How my mindset was, you know what I'm saying? It was, if I bring you in, I bring you in to be a certain way. In the rapping, respect to the certain way. OSBS is the same way. My group right now, WhatsApp, Mickey. These kids are all the same way. They know my mentality. So they take on that mentality. I ain't going nowhere gangbanging. I don't care if I'm over to say, because, blood, what's up, whatever.   So when I came home, you got to remember before I even took Nip out, there was coaching and teaching going on. Because see that's what don't happen today. You don't get none of these youngsters with no cultural teaching. When I first started bringing them around job, we was already talking about what the video was going to be, what the songs will be. We're going to represent the hood, but we ain't going to diss nobody in none of these videos. You got to remember, I studied all the videos. I shot all the Nipsey first videos. You know what I'm saying? I shot them.  Bullets and I know they ain't Crips and all that.  I went through every video and made sure nobody hood was crossed out. Nobody was being dissed. You know what I mean? But we all got subs, because that's how we talk. You know what I'm saying? And he was the first one. You got to remember this. Nipsey couldn't have never became Nipsey unless he was with his big on board. Because Niggas didn't want him to be... First they didn't want him to call himself Nipsey. First of all... That was like it's already a dude named Nipsey Russell. Change that. Listen, the doors wouldn't have opened. Because one thing you got to respect about it is at that time on the corporate side of it, and the mainstream artists, the Bloods was in full control. And then he was a prince. We was not going to open no doors. Out of pure respect, a big you, the doors open. What you mean the Bloods was in control? Break that down.  All the labels, all the radio. All the Indians, all the big artists. Whether they were from Cali or they was from New Orleans or whether they were from the East Coast, it was a blood dominating system at the time. So when big you come through the door, it was a pure respect thing. Whatever he needed, we made it happen. You know what I'm saying? He shouldn't have changed, really, he can do it. No, he'll tell you.  Like we go back and forth, but ultimately, if he say, little bro, this what I need, we're going to do that. It's the same thing with me. I can go over there. Oh, he advised me against it.  So he kicked open a lot of doors. Man, Roller 60s is one of the most hated motherfucking gangs in Los Angeles. What, nobody looking to bend over backwards to help them niggas? But we do business, though. No, they do. No, this is real business because of the work they put in and the whole overall thing. It was, it was, we didn't, no disrespect. We didn't do that for 60s. We did that for big you from 60s.  Let me be clear. What he talking about is on the business side and on the music side.    Or we don't do business with you. And then a lot of those don't open. You know what I mean? And see, it don't be like when niggas is here and like, and let me give you a name. Like, say Birdman at one point is the top motherfucker in a, in a, what is it? In the scope? Universal. Universal.  And I'm gonna use him as an example because he a good friend of mine. He actually helped me too. You know what I'm saying? But now imagine if you're trying to go through E1, A1, a universal and you gotta go through Wackline. And you're gonna eventually gonna get through there because they don't say who making us money right now? Straight up. Who made us money? Right. So that's what he talking about. So at the time that I came in and I came in and I was coming in with Nipsey, a lot of the buildings we was going to was dominated and niggas was talking about send me the music. I'm talking about niggas was asking to re-hear the music who had, we had never got a music to. Right. Like we got a deal. Our first, do you know the first person they ever put Nipsey in the studio was Charlie Walk? I mean not on Charlie Walk, but what's the name of Warner Brothers? Who was at Warner Brothers at that time? That's the top dog that was over there. Ishaan was over there was Ishaan. No, the label that owned it on Warner Brothers. It was running Warner Brothers. I know you talking about. I'm gonna say Charlie Walk, but that ain't the one Charlie Walk was on. But anyway, it was him. He was the first one. And then it was a top dog, gave us the time. You know what I'm saying? Then it was game. He was still on the come up. It was whack. S.H.I.E.L. gave us studio time. Matter of fact, keep 100 S.H.I.E.L. gave us the whole month to for Nip to record and for the Sloths and Boys to record off of a tour. So when he's saying that, he's saying that it was a whole lot. It was a whole lot of love that was coming on because of the way I came home. The way I came home was inclusive to everybody. Like he said, bloods, everybody in my house. Sugar to come park his cars in my house. Just him and whack. Right there in my neighborhood. Listen, I argued with my wife.  I was engaged. There's an argument with my wife. I will pass up my neighborhood. All kinds of neighborhoods. It'd be 12 midnight. I go to that mother house, open the door. She called and said, is he okay? And go to sleep. And be sleep straight up in the hard of the 60s. And go to sleep like so. Is it true that you were sugar night driver? No, I wasn't. You just used to heat the car up and like? No, I never that. We're not sugar. If you know sugar drivers on cars. He got no car heater. Not sugar car heater. Sugar drivers on cars. And at the time, and drawl to tell you this. I was one of, I was one of, hey, hey, hey. He know, he know. Hold on, hold on. I was one of very, very few, right? Actually probably one of the only ones on our side that when I come through the back door, I'm in a Benz.  Yeah, yeah.  So what? I never wore a death row chain. I did business with the homie. I never was on a death row payroll. I've never called him.   Right? I called the homie shirt. That's it. Because there wasn't no sign. Do you still on the master's? No, never not. He'll on the master's one.  I came at the wrong time when everything was falling. Hold up, you heard this? Yeah, E1 owns a whole catalog. That's why I got a system control over the catalog, because I'm in E1. So I want to do a project with that catalog. The boss around the corner. I got one hour going in and just go through the door.    Dogfell.  Left eye when we changed her name to Nina. All that shit's in there. All the wheels is in there. So let me just say this before we get out of here. Can we be there for hours? No, we only been here for hour and 41 minutes, but we get out. But listen, and honestly, this is the longest episode we ever had, our episode was usually an hour, but you niggas is something entertaining to niggas. I just want to ask this question. I'm not a nigga, brother. Thank you, brother. I'm a nigga sometimes. Let me ask y'all this question. Matter of fact, I want to ask you a question. I want to ask you a question. Then we're going to end it off like this. Charlie. Who's the most prominent Crippa all the time? And why? You said, what is the primary? This ain't your question? Listen, you know, I got a factor in everybody, and I'm going to tell you why. The golden Crippa. No, listen, no. Listen, I'm going to say this.  Let me tell you why. I'm not taking nothing from the ones that started it, the two keys and all of them, right? The Raymond Watts, I'm not taking nothing from them, right? But what I'm looking at, the longevity of it, the achievements of it, right? And where they stand today, right? Business wise, family wise. We got one of the brothers on death row, right? It's only so much you can do. I don't even know if he had children or I'm not in tune with him like that, right? It's only so much you can do since I'm death row. He did a lot of children's books and things of that nature. But when I sit and I, because I know him personally, right? I know his family. I know his achievements. I know what his goals was, what he wanted to do. Before he did them, I watched him birth. I watched him come to life. I watched him take hits. I watched him be attacked by the law. You know what I'm saying? I watched him bounce back from it, right? I watched him be attacked by his own people and still stay positive through it and survive and bounce back from it, right? When he could have really shied or lied or did some other shit, right? So I say that to say this. Business wise, bro, mid 50s is 50 something, right? He's still here free. He's been free maybe what, 16 years? 16. 16 years, right? He's still free, right? Now as he's free, he's totally legit and he's legal, right? Now only that, he's stepped into our community and in his section has reduced gang violence by like 40, 50, 60% in his area. Not only has he done that, he's opened his doors to who I know is his arch enemies, A-Trade gangsters and cats over here and said, hey, come see me and I'll show you how to get set up so you can have contracts with the city of Los Angeles so you can help reduce the gang violence in your section. These are things that he does that I don't do, right? I've seen him take kids and continuation schools and take time out his day and sit with these kids.  I need this money, man, to buy these helmets or these discs or these cleats, right? I've seen him do these things. So when it comes to achievements and when it comes to giving, crippling, right? A positive light of showing where you can come from and what you can stand for, right? And still be here, standing today, all his limbs and of saying my and legal are not on the run, being able to move around multiple businesses. When they come to that right now to date in 2020, I gotta get at the draws. I gotta get at them based upon the stats. To the biggest blood of all time. I wanna come from, I wanna see it from a Crip standpoint, from a blood standpoint. Of all time? Yes, like who's the number one blood of all time? He was a crazy one, cause we ain't done yet. Yeah, I'm gonna say. I'm talking up to now, up to this point. I'm gonna say the biggest blood of all time would say we have to be sugar. The one that's moving and moving the pentium and representing it would be wack. You know what I'm saying? I haven't achieved all the things that he's doing right now. I haven't achieved the things that sugar had achieved. Yeah.  Even with him sitting in prison, the one time he's doing, he has knocked down doors and I'm on a verge of doing it. I got a few things, indie life. I got a few things coming. That's my own that's gonna help our culture. And I didn't have a lot to compete with as far as like a black man. No, he didn't. I didn't have a lot. I mean, you would say that the most famous, to me, if you asked me that question, I would say the biggest Crip to me would probably be. Well, you know what? Let me correct you. Turkey or Raymond Washington. But the most famous would be Monster, I would think. Monster Code. Let me correct you now. You got Top Dog. Top Dog from Bonnie Hunters. Oh, my bad. We got Top Dog. Top Dog. Top Dog, right now when it comes to business wise, being where he from, he didn't walk to yards. You know, that he one of my mentors that I'm one of them dudes that keep it real, right? I could be in a driver seat, passing a back seat, pushing a car, whatever it gotta be. So I would say when it comes to this red flag right now, Top Dog is probably carrying it a torch. But not only is that he's covered as a mother. Coming, yeah, you know, coming behind Shug and he's not too far off from reaching those accomplishments that Shug. You don't think he there already? Well, you gotta understand it was a difference. So it was a different thing. Shitload of records, bro. Yeah, it was a different thing. But it's a different era of shitload. Yeah, it's a different day. But that is probably streaming the shitload. But you gotta remember, Top Dog's still here. But no, we're going to streaming though. No, no, no, look, Top Dog's still here. Other records and streaming. Top Dog's still here and standing. I can only imagine movies and other things coming to work. T.D. Eastfield's thriving. That flow has been folded. So his company's still thriving. So, I mean. Yeah, he has a period on his. Yeah, he has a period on his with Top Dog. But I'm going to say this though. Between Kendrick and what's the girl name? Cesar. Cesar. And then the schoolboy, come on, man. Jay-Var too. You can't leave Jay-Rock out of there. No, no, no. You talk about Dr. Jay. Number one, Snoop. Jay-Rock is moving some serious numbers. Dogpal. All of them dudes want platinum, platinum, platinum, multiple platinum's. Man, you gotta understand. Skewered everyone platinum?  Double CD went fucking. Eight times platinum. Eight, nine times platinum. But there was no competition like that. That's amazing. But no, top. So if you went eight, that's equivalent to one doing 16. That's right, right now, like 39 dollars. So with us, my magic is coming out. They say January, March. It's a documentary we're doing. It's called Hip Hop Untold. And wait, and that's West Coast. Because you gotta remember. What's West Coast? You know, as far as Crips and Bloods will be talking about in the music game. Because Birdman got a flag in his backpack. Birdman the blood too? Yeah, he got a red flag in his backpack. Birdman got a flag, a red flag, in his backpack pocket. And he still standing each and every one of them. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Let me just say this.  Let me just say this. Birdman, listen. Can you hold on, man? I'm not sure what Birdman did. Let me talk. Let me talk. Wait, get it, man. Let me ask you a question, though, Gilly. You say, wallow on Birdman, Dick. But last time I could recall, you signed the contract. I didn't. He just offered me a deal. Birdman, you called me. Birdman said, wallow, he didn't want to do stuff with you. He respect me, said, wallow. You want to label, wallow? Let's not do that. I'm trying to get a label. Let's not do that. I'm ready to get a label.  Cast Money East.  Cast Money East. Artists, I'm telling y'all we signed a mac and cheese. Shit. Anyway, man, I got a documentary. Oh, it's documentary. Hey, what you mean? Documentary signing up for you.  Documentary. Documentary. He's talking about his publishing. Shout out to Cash Money. No, no, no. Let me say this, though. Big you. Cash Money West. I got a documentary coming out, man. 100NT. You know what I'm saying? And what is next year? Top of the year. I ain't coming out. Until I get my part in it, it ain't coming out. Me. Trick, trick. Hastin' Jack. Yeah, we got the great Hastin' Jack. Y'all gonna love this one. We got Deb. Walker Flockerman. And we got Bimmy. Oh, this one you blocked me out of. No, you in that one.    Hey, listen. This big bro. Like I told you, he's bipolar.  Check it out. We comin' out. Hip hop untold. You know what I mean? It's gonna be phenomenal. Now I remember. On that fix. They spent over five million on this document. He did a deal with a negative that I didn't get along with. Man, come on, man. Cut. Hold on. Hold on a minute. You, hold up. I ain't said no negative. One thing. I ain't said no negative. Before we leave. You don't get along with. Hold up. Before we leave. Listen, man. We'll come out of whack mouth. Until you get it right with bro.  We're not doing that. But listen. It's all right. Before we leave, both of y'all. One kids out here listen to it. They fascinated with the gang culture. What do you tell them? That they ain't in no gang. I will tell every gang member. No, they're not in a gang. Listen. They're not in a gang. Listen. Let me tell you ones that are. If you're not in the gang. You're 18, 21.  I advise you so we can have our people on our side. Go to the military or go and listen to the police academy. Because I would much rather have you pulling me over. Because you understand me than them. Because it's not in the gang. Keep doing what you're doing.  I don't have no regrets because of who I am today. It's star game man. Because in the day it really wasn't no benefits outside of what we cleaned it up and made it to be. What about you? It ain't nothing there for you.  If you don't have no felonies and you don't like what the police is doing. Go join them. Pull us over. They're not going to let you join anyway because they got the system in place.  But if you can, take over the system. Take over the system. And LA is so arbitrary to the truth. They gang banging on the police department. They got the Spanish out here. The Spanish out here is 18th street and white fence and all that.  Chefs and LAPD. So I would tell the youngsters, if you looking at that and you want to be a part of something, go be a part of something that's going to be inclusive of you.  Until we can see Bloods and Crips continue to do what myself and Wack have done and moved into an era of becoming pillars of our community and trying to do that.  And we just want to end it off like this, right? To all the youth out there that's watching this episode, you got a top flight blood. You got a top flight Crip. You got a top flight man grown as you. A top flight who grew in the top flight men.  I mean, you know sometime a conversation and getting to know somebody and understand where they're coming from.  Right. It's not needed. A lot of people the kids don't know if they really did the research on why they neighborhoods or why they sections is beefing.    He just so happened to be from that neighborhood. And it was in control. When they come to gangbanging and when they come to any kind of organizations not just Crips and Bloods. We tend to look at a black man. I was doing this experiment with his brother today. And what's funny to me is when it comes to gangs or anything. I don't even know I'm supposed to hate you until you tell me where you from. That's crazy. You know if you walk in the room fire dudes walk in the room right now. I got to ask you where you from before if I know I can like you. Right. You know me so if I don't know you I got to look for something. Right. That tell you right there where you right. That's worse than segregation. That's worse than the white folks looking at us and say oh he's this we can't we don't like him. Right. We looking at each other and it's cool.  And that's that's that's the that's we got to stop hating us. We got to get paid. Leave that.  Well listen man.  So we salute y'all man.  Each and every week man. Barstool Sports dot com. Get your merch. Get your merch. Get your merch. Another name of Gilly the King. I'm Wild'Low 267 Tony the Closer Joe Budden killer. Whack 100. Yo come on. Don't do that man. Why you throw Joe up there. Man listen listen. I'm riding with the homie on now. No but damn me we ain't beef with Joe man. I don't know.  And you going to say that about you is not positive he be attacking our youth. You know what he do. I'm going to stand down. I'm just saying till till Gilly saying it ain't on this. No it ain't on. It ain't on. Shout out to Joe man and he's just like that. Right!