Last year, Actress Eva Longoria was finally able to unload her massive Hollywood Hills compound after trying for 2.5 years, and it used to belong to Tom Cruise. Not to worry though, she bought her current Beverly Hills mansion in 2017 to upgrade to. Aside from the 11,000-plus square foot home she lives in, Eva has owned some of the nicest mansions you could imagine over the years. It's said her property portfolio includes everything from a spot in Malibu to a home in San Antonio, Texas, and more. In this video, we'll check out three of her mansions past and present. In these videos, we don't reveal any addresses, and even though I've done a house tour of my own place, please do not show up at any private residences because it's not safe for anyone. Eva Longoria Baston is an actress and producer who was first recognized for her role as Isabella on the CBS soap opera The Young and the Restless, which she starred in from 2001 to 2003. Then, Eva went on to her best known role in a show that I was obsessed with no less, Desperate Housewives where she played Gabrielle Solis. For this role, Eva received nominations for Golden Globes and more. After the show wrapped up, she appeared in some films and some other TV shows as well as serving as an executive producer on other series like Devious Maids. Eva has been named one of Hollywood's most beautiful women over the years and has amassed a net worth of $80 million or more. These days, she's married to businessman Jose Baston and they share a son. While for most, LA's high-end real estate market was halted due to the pandemic, last year Eva still managed to sell her huge compound in Hollywood Hills that once belonged to Tom Cruise. The sprawling compound hangs over world-famous Mulholland Drive and while she said goodbye to this place, she'd already moved into her contemporary mansion in Beverly Hills. This gorgeous family home spans 11,000 square feet but that's far from the only property Eva owns. Hey guys, it's Kara The Vampire Slayer and today we're bringing you another house to our here and famous entertainment. Be sure to hit that subscribe button and ring that bell, we post a new video daily. Today we're taking a look at where Eva Longoria calls home with her family like her current luxury estate in LA and more. As you know, here we talk about celebrity houses but have you ever wondered what Lil Uzi Bird is spending on his new face diamond implant or about Justin Bieber's one-of-a-kind new whip? We recently started a brand new channel, Famous Fashion, where myself and some other hosts are reporting on all things celebrity fashion and purchases. Join us and be one of the first to subscribe, you don't want to miss this. But that's not even the only watch McGregor picked up during his recent shopping spree. He also bought another timepiece from Jacobs & Co. This time in a more X-rated flavor. As always, don't forget to follow me on Instagram to chat and now let's get into this video. Stuff, let's take a look at a triple story home Eva sold back in 2018. This wasn't just any mansion, it was the longtime residence of the actress where she lived for over a decade and it was located in the historic Hollywood Del neighborhood. This area winds through the foothills between the Hollywood and the Hollywood Reservoir while the property is side hillside. At the time Eva was recently married to her now husband and expecting their first child so it was time to make a change asking over 3.7 million dollars for the home. The contemporary Mediterranean as it was described offered six beds and nine baths with an 8602 square feet of space. The three floors inside were linked by a circular wrought iron staircase while outside a thick hedge surrounded the property and blocked the estate from the street. Hidden behind that hedge Eva's former spot had a plunge pool, spa and stone tile courtyard as well as a terrace with outdoor kitchen and barbecue to round out the yard. All of this overlooked the surrounding mountains. Eva picked up the home for 3.6 million dollars back in 2008 and main living spaces sat on the middle level one of which was a combo living and dining room with two fireplaces and wood trimmed glass doors leading to a wraparound balcony. The nearby kitchen was spacious and well-equipped with a super-sized center island and a compact breakfast nook.  The partially underground lower level boasted a state-of-the-art screening room with a projection system and cozy sofas as well as a cave-like family room with massive wet bar that had a couple of windows looking into the swimming pool. While Eva bought her current home in Beverly Hills in 2017 which we'll take a look at really soon at the end of 2018 the actress was attempting to unload yet another one of her properties. This multi-acre compound located high up in the Hollywood Hills just above the sunset strip formerly belonged to Tom Cruise and Eva scooped it up around 2015 for 11.4 million dollars. While Eva optimistically listed the home for 14 million dollars at the end of 2018 it would take her over 2.5 years to finally get rid of the place and with a final price of 8.25 million it was at a 3.2 million dollar loss. The compound spanned three acres of land and boasted two houses with seven bedrooms and nine baths throughout. As I mentioned the estate has a pedigreed ownership because not only did Eva live here but Tom Cruise long owned it before her and fun fact they say he never used it as a primary residence who was suspected to function as some sort of Scientology retreat. The mansion resembles an old-world country estate in Tuscany and the main residence is a European-style villa with wide plank hardwood floors three ensuite bedrooms and a chef's kitchen with designer appliances. The guest house or second structure has another four bedrooms and impressively upgraded kitchen too. Aside from these two self-contained homes here the property additionally includes two detached studios and a small stone cottage with a completely tiled interior fireplace and high-end kitchen. Eva's former property was laced with stone pathways to connect the buildings and there are also stone terraces all over boasting panoramic mountain canyon and city views. A wooden bridge crosses over the impressive lagoon style swimming pool and elsewhere there's a greenhouse. Listing materials indicate the compound was offered with another parcel of land just outside the driveway gates as well as an approved plan for a major remodel of the entire estate. Designed by acclaimed architect Marc Rios the proposed plans showed a modernized version of the existing compound with an expanded main house and new pool complex. While I'm sure Eva was disappointed on the multi-million dollar loss when selling the Tom Cruise compound at least she could dry her tears in her new contemporary Beverly Hills mansion. In 2017 Eva spent 13.5 million dollars on a brand new home which is where she currently lives and the nearly 1.5 acre estate is located down a private lane of the Posh Benedict Canyon. There's a freshly renovated 11,000 plus square foot modern looking mansion boasting six family bedrooms, two staff bedrooms, eight full baths and two half baths. Interior features include soaring ceilings, steel custom doors and oversized windows throughout. Eva her husband Jose and their son have plenty of rooms to roam here with several living and family rooms one of which is located on the second floor and elsewhere there's a media room and a gorgeous office with private terrors. The home has both formal and informal living areas on the ground floor which feature high ceilings, rich oak floors and a muted neutral color scheme. One of these rooms is furnished with large plush sofas and chairs and is ideal for entertaining as it opens to the garden and pool area. Not only is there a spacious chef's kitchen but there's also a separate catering kitchen. The main kitchen is fitted with top of the line appliances including a double oven and dishwasher all offering beautiful views out into the garden. Therefore still is lined along the breakfast bar so even Jose can easily grab a quick bite to eat there if they don't want to go into the more formal dining room next door. In Eva's home there's also a wine room which features a wine store and two seats for tasting. The actress has spoken about her love of wine and even has her own range of wine themed t-shirts so it seems like this is the perfect room for her to relax when the mood strikes. Eva's luxury master suite has its own private den and bar as well as his and hers bathrooms and walk-in wardrobes. The bedroom also boasts a king-size bed, fitted fireplace and views of Beverly Hills. The bathroom is ideal for Eva to get ready for the red carpet offering a free standing tub, glass walk-in shower and large vanity area with spotlights overhead. It's custom-lit and protected by top-of-the-line security system. The resort style grounds surrounding the mansion have every amenity from the large motor court and four-car attached garage to the tennis court. Then the Baja pool and spa is located across from the full pool house with bathroom and the yard also boasts an outdoor kitchen. With gorgeous canyon views all around it's clear that no house guests would ever want to leave. Eva has one gorgeous property. Alright so I think that's all I got for the homes of Eva Longoria. After checking out three of her estates, two that she formerly owned and her current spot in Beverly Hills, what did you guys think? I think the actress has amazing taste in real estate to say the least and her classy home suit her personality. If I had to choose, I'd kind of like that former Tom Cruise rumored Scientology compound in Hollywood best. Whatever it was, the property was amazing with a gorgeous main house and a charming cottage ride throughout. I'd love to live there and if it were me I probably wouldn't even want to modernize it. How about you guys? Feel free to rate Eva's homes in the comments down below or let me know what features you like best. If you haven't already, like and subscribe to my personal channel will link you to my latest video.  Oh my gosh, 18? I am shook. I thought she was like my age. She's a Gemini like me. Thanks for tuning in. Don't forget to follow me on Instagram and I will see you all in the next video. Bye.


All right. Welcome everyone to the fifth installment of our fall speaker series thus far we've hosted leading social scientists computer scientists and legal scholars who are deep in the weeds on key, but often granular issues and each of their respective fields. We're hoping that this will be a bit of a different sort of conversation. We're lucky to be joined today by Malcolm Harris and Eric Baker. We're two brilliant thinkers and writers. Malcolm is the author of the best selling book Palo Alto, a history of California capitalism in the world. What she's here to discuss today. He's the author of two other books, including kids these days, the making of millennials and is working on a new project titled worth living strategies against disaster and despair. And Eric is a lecturer in the history of science department here at Harvard. He writes widely for magazine such as M plus one the baffler and the drift where he's an associate editor and is also working on a book project titled make your own job the entrepreneurial work ethic in modern America. We'll set aside a portion of the conversation for audience questions. So please feel free to drop them in the zoom Q and a box below. And Eric will be keeping an eye out for anyone that are relevant for follow up to just points of clarification. So please also use the chat function. And with that I'll hand it over to Eric. Thanks so much Nick. And thanks for for having me on. I'm really excited to talk about this. This is a great book. You know, I was thinking that one, the proper place to start might be at the beginning, because one of the things that excites me most about this book and that I think makes it so relevant, you know, not just to discussions of Silicon Valley and, you know, much wider range of political issues is your your decision to begin the narrative of the book with the acceleration of the Anglo settler colonialism 19th century. You know, I think that a lot of people picking up this book, you know, might expect a much more contemporary tale. But, you know, as someone who still holds that hope for the long array style of history and takes the settler colonialism is really useful frame for for understanding so many developments in US history. I'm wondering if you could start by saying a little more about, you know, why, why the book starts there and how you see those, those themes kind of continuing throughout the narrative. Yeah, I. So in some ways, I think I got really lucky with my object because you know I grew up in Palo Alto and I talk about that. And I was it probably able to sell this book as someone who doesn't have any graduate education. Despite being a pretty straight up history book because it's something that I have a personal attachment to. At the same time, Palo Alto is officially history goes from the 1870s to today. And if you look at, you know, American history and the work that's being done in American history right now. A lot of it is focused on this moment in the 1870s where you locate a sort of rebirth of the American project with the end of reconstruction and the post of a war era. And that's often told around the south and the north and the relation between the south and the north and going from slavery to Jim Crow and that this is constitutive of the new country. But it really leaves out the story of the West, which is absolutely part of that same period. And so you have at the same time in the 1870s that you've got the defeat of reconstruction going on in the south. You have genocidal militias conquering all to California to establish California as the other bound of this American coast to coast empire. And people think about this as like a, you know, eastward March or a westward March rather from the east of American colonialism. But when you really read about California at the time, that's not how it operated it was an over it was literally an overseas colony of the United States in the middle of the 19th century, and it behaves like one. And so read this focusing on Palo Alto as the object of this history allowed me to focus on this period of modernity that stretches from the 1870s to today. This is this second birth of the American project. So I feel really lucky that my object allowed me to focus on that period because it is very important and it is not as some people imagine ancient history. It's literally not ancient history. In fact, it's literally modern history that we're talking about. And I go through at the end. Five generations of people, literally five generations of people since the colonization by force of all to California by Anglo Americans. And so thinking about this as modern history and the world as the development of this project from the late 19th century, I think cast the whole our whole present situation in a different light. Yeah, could you say more about that last point, you know, in terms in terms of the, you know, what people like to call it conjunctural analysis or sort of present present moment. How does this sort of reminder, you know, as you said there's great riff at the, at the end about these sort of cycles of forgetting. You know, so how does how to sort of working to overcome the those sort of roll roll back those cycles of forgetting one by one all the way to this sort of original moment of settlement and genocide. In terms of, you know, sort of our understanding our current moment and the political crisis we can find ourselves today. Yeah. So on one level just in terms of the colonization of Turtle Island of North America, it's important for people to understand these as ongoing struggles that are that are contemporary right, whether that's Muwekma land in the Bay Area, where the tribe of over 600 people is still fighting to restore their federal recognition and restore a land base that this is something contemporary and they can count those five generations very very clearly. Or whether you're looking at the black hills right that the colonization of vast amounts of North America happens in this modern period and our disputes that are ongoing that are continue through the 20th century and now into the 21st century. And in some ways are the places where we see sparks right now politically. So when you see the Keystone XL protests and you think like oh you know this is a really where is this coming from there's this strange you know political eruption happening in this place that doesn't seem like a political flashpoint in terms of our understanding of the current array of forces like why why would there be a political clash there. But if you understand this history of modern settler colonialism like of course the course the struggle for the black hills has never ended. Of course the city so co and are still struggling for their territory and will continue to struggle as there are new encroachments. At the same time, I've been thinking a lot about it as we look at Palestine and the war going on right there that it's the exact same history and people. There's been the effort from from some especially on the Zionist side to say that the use of settler colonialism and the models of settler colonialism to talk about Palestine in Israel. Is an imposition of some other archetype or some some other conflict from the North American slash Australian slash New Zealand context. And to put it on to Israel Palestine so that those of us on the left can understand it easier. This is completely false it's historically illiterate anyone who's historian of this modern period will tell you as as much. The colonization projects, not just California and Australia and New Zealand, but also South Africa, also in coastal China that these are all things that are happening at the same time in Peru. And they're doing so with Californian engineering expertise that's forged in the era of gold mining and accumulates in places like Stanford University and Palo Alto. So, one historical link that people might not know about is this guy L would need was one of the leader of the first Bureau of Reclamation. He's the guy who's really responsible as much as anyone in particular for designing the West's water system. Lake Mead which is still the water source for California attached to the Hoover Dam you know they're like this is and that settlement right people need to understand that's 20th century but it's that settlement they're settling the land for more people to be able to live there. L would need in the in the 20s and 30s goes over to Palestine where he's doing the same activity there where they want him for his expertise having done this work in California to go set up a Zionist water system. And it's interesting that that he's credited by some of the early Zionist leaders with leading them away from communal design into individualist capitalist economy. And he comes out there and says like you guys don't trust me like communism like this all like working together living together thing sharing the land like that's never going to help you develop anything. That's what the Arabs have been doing for hundreds of years, it's never going to build anything what you need is capitalism. Okay, and then this becomes the dominant strain within Zionist settlement, as well as the structural building of the literal infrastructure of the colonial project. So these, these connections are not metaphorical. They're not like archetypical they're literal it's literally the same personnel who are involved in this global project of colonialism that again is within 100 years this is our current situation. And it seems to me that it really kind of recasts, you know, the in some ways the the central concept of Silicon Valley technology. You know, that you really sort of draw out, you know, the relationship of technology on the one hand to infrastructure and the physical technical remoulding of places and infrastructural systems that that goes into settlement. Yeah, and not just that when we think about technology, especially when we think about Silicon Valley technology, it's really easy to think about gadgets, because it's a real it's a real place of gadgets and these like gadget commodities really seem to crystallize all the like the historical development that's going on in these places the intellectual development the capital and they seem like you know like all of this came together and we produced the microchip or we produce the computer or we produce the television which also comes out of the same group or the telegraph you know triodes that they were coming up with the radar you know there are a lot of very important like gadgets that they come out that come out of there. What that leaves out is the way that these commodities also crystallize the social relations and in the history and so when we focus on science and technology in terms of the invention. In terms of the like the ideal the concept behind these things it's very easy to think about them as separate from labor as separate from land as separate from class. And so with something like the Apple to there is a I think a recent book about the Apple to the talks about it. A whole book about this object and the importance of this object doesn't talk about who built in practice doesn't mean no almost none of the histories of the tech industry made histories that a lot of people who are watching this might be familiar with industrial histories of the Bay Area. They don't talk about who builds you know Apple to number seven or number eight they talk about who wires the first one. And then they don't worry about the actual production process the actual production process was as much as the design, the important technological step that happens in the Bay Area. So when we think of the Bay Area now. And it was like oh they invented gig work like that was a really important like thing that they came up with but that was just an extension of these the phone or this object or whatever. It just naturally unfolded for that from there. That's not true at all like before Silicon Valley invented gig work Silicon Valley was the world center of temp work. It was a different kind of precariously contracted labor. And so and before that it was the center of different kinds of labor contracts of like transnational labor contractors and stuff so there's these innovations and all of this kind of non union, non union casual, you know, hyper intensified sort of form that persists even as the exact organizational details of all. Absolutely I mean even look at the the Fremont auto factory, which is going to be in the news soon I imagine there's currently a big Tesla factory but before that was the new me. When I was in high school when I visited it on a auto class field trip. It was the new me new me factory run by Toyota, which was supposed to bring back the like American auto union worker, even if it was sort of working for Japanese companies. It was supposed to bring back the, the union building that collapsed and is now run by Tesla which is a non union automaker, and the w is now threatened threatening to unionize the the Fremont plant. But one thing that's really interesting about the Fremont plant that gets left out of that. Most of the histories of California and of the auto industry is that that plant was one of the big winners of the tax reform proposition that is usually we talk about it in terms of individual home property taxes, and not in terms of the businesses that one huge tax reductions as part of this proposition. But one of those businesses was the Fremont factory that then went to put as part of the evolution of social relations that come out of the destruction of those relations in the first place right if you destroy the state that they with the taxes, then you can't support the auto worker social labor model. I'm glad that you that you pivoted there because one, one piece and again thinking about these these continuities that stretch back to the 19th century. The word that you use again and again to characterize this sort of ballot proposition strategy that a lot of the business class really adopts in the late 20th century in the US is vigilance is these anti initiatives. So I was wondering if you could talk a bit more about, you know, why you characterize these these ballot initiatives as a kind of form of vigilantism and you know how maybe that connects with some of these earlier episodes of vigilantism. Yeah, California has a fantastic history of vigilantism actually Mike Davis it's like somewhere between an essay and a short book. Mike Davis has one called like what is a vigilante man that is about the history of white vigilantism in California and someone really should put that out as like a pamphlet I think it's published in another book as a chapter or something but someone should really put that out as a pamphlet because it's really great history. And you can go back to the 19th century to the like very beginning of the labor movement in California the official labor movement where they decide to attack Chinese workers and the importation of Chinese workers as as their strategy and they look towards vigilantism as a solution. And really you could go back further than that to the idealization of the gold mining camps themselves, which was a formalization of vigilantism, based on the racial exclusion of non white non Anglo people, which at the time was did not just mean non racially white or whatever it also included like French people or whatever was you know get the hell off our camps or you have to pay a special So whiteness is really fused with these vigilante activities. And in the 20th century becomes a labor tactic that the growers use where they're building their own vigilante forces that they can rely on. And the California Highway Patrol really evolves out of these vigilante gangs that are used to attack at those point. I guess you could say mostly Chicano workers, but there's also Filipino workers and Korean and Japanese and Chinese workers who are being attacked by these vigilante groups as well. And so it becomes this like this racial labor tool that then when it be in more in the post war era looks for these legalistic solutions. In addition to I mean you do see a resurgence of the Klan activity in California in the 70s and 80s, especially around the border. So vigilantes and continues, but it is also really built into the California political system and the ways that those propositions. State propositions operate is definitely within that history of white extra democratic democratic domination. It seems that there's an analogy there as well, you know, talking about the evolution of anti labor vigilante some into the Highway Patrol. That one, one important piece to them for thinking about the infrastructural reshaping of California in this period is the growth of the explosive growth prison system, which we discuss a bit drawing on Wilson, and other scholars.  Yeah, and something I think that's really and I cite, there's a there's a footnote in the Gilmore book that I think is really important, where she says this is not tainziness that and she differentiates and she says that something had to replace the economic system that include found ways to include, even if on the margins, minority groups within American society, and then that this was the post war Keynesianism and the great society. And some people talked about the prison boom as sort of an extension of that and Gilmore is very, very clear, even though it's in a note that this is not the case and that this is a distinct mode. What does she think sees of population management. And in my research, I think it's pretty much impossible to understand that other than as a distributed revenge plot against black and Chicano people in the United States and in particular in California for the insurrections of the 60s and early 70s. And that you see that this is a that they are intentionally destroying the ability of the state to reproduce itself, particularly targeted around So if you look at California in, you know, the final quarter of the 20th century and the emergence of the knowledge economy and like the center of the world knowledge economy. The last thing you would do is totally viscerate your education system like that makes absolutely no sense if you're investing in your future as a place in the world, except that the authorities of California really understand stood what kind of world they were trying to create at the end of the 20th century and it was one that was based on the capital the total capitalist domination of labor. And so that was the you're going to grow not by educating people in the educating the masses into new computer skills, but by hammering people by hammering labor and forcing wages down and exporting jobs that were technically complicated to other places where you could attack those wages or importing technically sophisticated workers who would be dependent on the immigration system and hammer down their wages. But if you look at the descriptions of the California primary and secondary education system from, you know, the 40s 50s to the 70s 80s. Only be read as intentional I think you because you go from people saying like wow this is the best you know like multi racial education we're really learning to all the Americans and like the teachers really value everyone's culture and it's not at like supremacist sort of like Ernesto Galarza who's a great labor figure has this in his book barrio boy, really great account of what it was like to go to school in California for a young Chicano boy in the first half of the 20th century. And then you read about what education looks like for black kids in the Bay Area in the 80s. And they say yeah I go to school every day and it doesn't matter not going to teach me how to read so like what's the point. And it's it's I can only read that as a political attack on people. And this framing of revenge or retaliation as particularly sort of taking its as its object the education system reminds me of how much the, the university infrastructure especially at Stanford, but also just starting to really, in this area was was both the target of uprising and political mobilization in the 60s and 70s but also, you know, to a significant extent became kind of conscripted release was was threatened to be sort of utilized by revolutionary movements and that won the sympathy of least a minority of the whites generation population. You know, maybe people read an article in the, or an excerpt recently from Michael Cason's new memoir, or he talks about being part of SDS at Harvard and being kind of a feckless pseudo radical. And maybe that was the situation at Harvard I did research that campus very well. But I can say, say for sure that that was not the case at Stanford and that the, the movement which was really drawing its inspiration from the black panthers from street movements, and from the community college movement in northern California at the time which was really at the cutting edge of politics and uniting the street and educational politics. And they would they were drawing their inspiration from there and they were really serious people. And I talked about that I do a lot of research in the book talking about the 60s movement and the revolutionary guard and the would be communist revolutionaries the late 60s early 70s, particularly at Stanford. And these were these were uncommonly sophisticated thinkers who put their skills to work researching the relationships between their campus community and the war that they found unacceptable going on in Vietnam. And they found a lot of connections and they found a lot of serious connections. And they found that a lot of the electronics research that was being done on their campus, ostensibly for defensive purposes or whatever or essentially just for like scientific objective scientific purposes were in fact part and parcel of the war machine and that the war was being fought on their right around them at that building over there where they didn't know what they were doing in there. Well, it turns out they were doing calculations that were being used in Vietnam, and what those students decided to do pretty quickly. I mean, was insert themselves into this conflict and they start by trying to, you know, put their bodies between things they go sit outside of the military manufacturers. And it's a very interesting scene where the student left gets a person to person meeting with the CEO of one of the chemical companies that's making the chemicals that's being used in Vietnam. And it's a very interesting scene partly because both the the CEO and the student leaders are both Jewish, and the Holocaust is a really recent memory. And the student leaders are saying like, you know, you're working with the same companies that produce the gas for the gas chambers like this is that you're doing the same thing when you're producing agent orange or you're producing napalm. And the CEO of the weapons company says like look man, I'm just trying to end the war faster and like this is what chemical companies do and if I didn't do it then someone else would do it.  They realized that it is indeed an inhuman system they believe the things that they're being told by the CEO because they're true like if he squits someone else is going to do it. And so that they realized that it's not enough to object or to protest, they have to resist. And so what they do is they start bombing and setting fire to and sabotaging these campus systems that we're doing war work. They are effective they target every computer on campus and that's one of the the historiographical points about the book that I think was pretty interesting is a lot of the histories of Silicon Valley say that like oh the hippies were anti war and they created the computers because they were pro technology, and then maybe they accidentally didn't neoliberalism. But the actual anti war movement like literally was trying to blow up every computer in the country, like that was, that was their, their program because they recognize that all these computers will war machines. So I think that's something we need to understand a little more clearly. So of course stretches, you know, both forward in time from that moment as well as backwards and you talk a lot about the entanglement. You know, of, I mean, in some ways this goes back to the, the period of settlement. There was well through Herbert Hoover, who was very large in this book this pattern of, you know, association with the, with the state and the military and then you draw that forward at the end. And about talking about Palantir and contemporary Silicon Valley is cooperation with the NSA is revealed by various whistleblowers. And this is a sort of major theme and looking for areas of continuity up to the present day. You know, this, this narrative of, I completely agree that there was a sort of initial kind of utopian element that was that was used conceived of as sort of tools of peace that, you know, eventually sort of fell away and, you know, we're corrupted and it's sort of sort of gets repeated is sort of at each stage of this process, you know, but not just in the Cold War but it's exactly the same sort of narrative beats and people talk about, you know, the, on this, this social media was, you know, supposed to bring about, you know, peace in the Middle East or something and, you know, but it wound up these, there's this sort of element of co-option or, you know, sort of downfall. And I think that one of the things the book does effectively is sort of push back against that, that narrative of sort of initial purity, sort of repeated. Again, in this sort of almost like ritual forgetting way we forget that we've sort of played out the beats of this of the story before. Yeah, when people talk about the early internet, I mean, this is the best example of that kind of self flattering, historical narrativeizing by the industry, which is that when you think about the networks that preceded the internet that connected to the networks or whatever, when you think about early computer networks, you think of like hobbyists and enthusiasts and the like spread of information but also like artists and goofballs and hippies and like Grateful Dead fans losing like super, super large in this story. I had a few people who are mad that the Grateful Dead did not play a larger role in this book, but sort of fewer than I than I worried I might get because they're they play Palo Alto. They're from Palo Alto they are Palo Alto. Oh yeah, like 100%. Yet I sort of left that out of the book because who cares, because it is not actually because the, you know, because that those networks did not actually characterize, I just realized my whole thing's a little tilted here. That's okay. To the left. That there are the early internet networks, you know, for some people might have been characterized by this like sharing of information across distances or whatever. But in terms of their use in terms of like how what was really important historically, it was the use by the defense establishment. And so I talk about that the network one of the early computer networks was a network that Oliver North set up using the first laptops, which did not have a big market but the national security stuff you know this is if you look go back to like movies from the 80s or 90s or whatever you open up the laptop and it's the like orange types command line screen or whatever. Like the really really early, but very high tech at the time. And he used this to set up a shadow government like the Iran Contra scandal would not have been possible except for that they had these new generation of laptops that allowed like eight people to run a government that they didn't have to go through the actual communities like communication systems which would have involved many more people being involved in this plan and said they're able to set up the with plausible deniability for the White House, a different government, and that's done through this network that connect that's going to connect you know Nicaragua to Lebanon to Angola to Afghanistan to the NSC in the White House to Taiwan, you know where they create this anti communist international that's moving around guns and money and transformation in ways that are not under democratic oversight that are against the law, but that were crucially important to creating the world that we end up with at the end of the 20th century and into the 21st century. That for me that like that blows the grateful dead out of the water right like the ability capital's ability at that moment to put together a counter force to the global communist insurgency is absolutely crucial for the survival, especially for the unipolar survival of American led capitalism in the world like it's hard to imagine how that happens without that ability to sort of move resources around the world through its systems unaccountably. And and move messages you know information. I mean it's it's interesting. You know the in, in many ways, the, the, when you were enumerating the gadgets, you know earlier the, there's so much so much that's obviously broadly construed telecommunications is the sort of unifying sector that that these innovations that we all come come to know and are clustered in and, you know, to some extent there's like a sort of fun, you know, consumer facing in element that gadgetry but you know it's, I mean, your sort of description of the North network is a good reminder that, you know, the increasing importance of, you know, telecommunication infrastructure and in coordinating imperial projects and going back to the 19th century, coordinating the expansion of capitalism the creation of a world market, the annihilation of space by time and Marx's phrase. Yeah, you can look at I mean Hewlett Packard is one is one of the signature companies of Palo Alto going back to their radio era. So they precede Silicon in Silicon Valley right they were working with vacuum triodes back in the day. Total like conscious product of Stanford University of that milieu of even that military project to win World War Two. And World War One before it really comes out of the World War One orientation into World War Two. Hewlett Packard now has been in the news as one of the targets of the BDS campaign because of their military work on behalf of the government.  That's not the case like they were a military contractor like way way way before. In fact, like David Packard himself is deputy deputy secretary of Defense under Nixon during the Vietnam War he is one of the like real enemies of the student movement in the 60s and 70s we don't remember that that now because he's done a really good job cleaning up their image. But one of the things that David Packard was really really aggressive about was cutting export restrictions on communications technologies to governments that we were worried about that some people within the government were worried about having these technologies.  And so from from that time from the very beginning HP has been an important element in the like anti communist international. And one of the guys who sort of starts the the private facing firm that really runs the whole Iran Contra scandal is an HP distributor whose work is an Iranian guy who's working for HP out of their office in Switzerland, whose job was like bribing Iranian officials to buy HP technology. And then he gets coopted by North and the intelligence establishment into expanding that operation such that they're, you know, taking heavy artillery that was seized by the Israelis in Lebanon and bringing it to South America to fight Contras, you know, so it becomes a real worldwide scheme, but people don't associate Palo Alto or Silicon Valley or any of those tech companies with this stuff that was going on in the 1980s, which is very interesting because if you go back and watch all those movies like, you know, Cold War type espionage movies. It's very, very, very clear how crucial tech is to the whole thing like there's always some, oh, we got to get this chip like you know the chip is really where it's at you know whatever we got to get this information. And Silicon Valley during the Cold War is this real like global center of spy craft. And the show The Americans, and there's there's a lot of sort of vintage computer stuff that, you know, I mean, I think it was one thing that that show captures well.  This makes me think of one of the questions that's, that's come into us about ideology, you know, we've talked a lot about material infrastructure, the, the, you know, flows of capital of people of technology. But this person is curious about the role of ideology in Silicon Valley. You know, is this just a matter of, you know, deception hype, or is there something more than I could say about the kind of active productive role of, of Silicon Silicon Valley ideology. I would say it's overstated. And so one of the one of the reasons I don't look at ideology very much in the book is because in the official history, I think they really center on ideology. There's a funny essay called the California ideology that people might be surprised not to see referenced anywhere in the book. But that's because I think that essay is really bad and wrong, and gets the history wrong. And if you now look back on if you read interviews with the authors. They like, oh yeah, we weren't really talking about California and what was going on in California, we were talking about like our idea of California from our British media studies MA program that we were trying to recruit from. And that that has been like, describe people have confused that with like, what was actually going on in California. And that's how you end up thinking like, Oh, the hippies invented the computer or whatever and it was about neoliberalism, instead of being like, all over north invented the computer to overthrow the Sandinistas, which is like much more accurate than the first one, even though they're both simplifications or whatever. So as a Marxist, I don't think of the like ideology as the actually determining of history, I think it's a more of a secondary factor. And I think if you review the the actual history of California, you find that as well. And so a lot of people asked like, Oh, why don't you talk about all these cool ideas that Leland Stanford had about how like, everyone should be in workers co ops or whatever. I was like, because they're irrelevant, like some, some like fantasy that some capitalist had, and Silicon Valley of capitalists, you know, have a lot of fantasies, right. And if we focus on the fantasies that they have, we really miss like what they're actually doing all day. And they might not understand what they're actually doing all day, half the time at least half the time they do not understand what they're doing all day in terms of the like historical context. And so I really want to know what's what's going on behind people's backs, you know, like historically, rather than like what they think they're doing, especially because Silicon Valley is really, really good at telling its own story about what it's doing, and sort of bad at remembering its own history. Yeah, absolutely. It makes me think there's a question that just came in about Martin Scorsese's new film killers of the flower moon, which I think one of one of the interesting things that that film does which is also, you know, about the settler colonial genocide in different part of the country is is to kind of take the sort of like the suspense out of it, and to sort of show that, you know, a lot of this, which was, you know, the book, a lot of people were expecting a sort of very kind of style presentation of this material but it's, it's out in the open it's it's not a, it doesn't, it doesn't, you know, it requires to a certain extent, you know, less sort of detective work with all the kind of carceral baggage of the phrase and more just a kind of willingness to actually look in the face, the historical record. Yeah, I haven't I haven't watched it yet I have read the book. I'll be, I'll be curious. One movie I did see recently is a documentary called the Lakota nation versus United States, I believe that's what it's called, which is a really great history of the colonization of the black hills in through today, and it's exactly parallel to the show Deadwood, which I just also just seen some of for the first time, which takes place in the same in the same place exact same history but from the the colonizer perspective, and putting those two in conversation I thought was really, really, really interesting, because you really see how much work goes in even contemporarily into just not seeing native people and not understanding their history and not recognizing their perspective as a human one period, because once once you crack that open once you recognize the humanity of native people, then it's really hard to see the humanity of settlers like someone's humanity gets thrown into question because of what actually happened, because it's hard to imagine two groups of human people treating each other that way right. And so, from what I've read of the movie, I think that it sort of struggles with that right like how do you show both groups as human at the same time when the settlers have behaved. What we think of as with a lack of humanity. So, hopefully, it represents a step forward in that thinking and a step forward in terms of understanding the history of settler colonialism as a modern, thoroughly modern, constitutively modern history. Which is a good segue to another question about what is to be done which is which is where the book ends with the sort of modest modest proposal I think it's modest in the grand scheme of things of giving the Stanford land back. This question asks, what would you suggest to address the complexities and consequences of settler movements and settlements in the present. There's another related question about sort of more theoretical academic ideas about refusal and ideas of indigenous data sovereignty. You know, what kind of approaches do you do you find promising for kind of envisioning a path forward in our moment. Yeah, I think native leadership is clearly the path forward so I think people has been sort of pathetic conversations about how settlers in North America should relate to indigenous movements and this sort of like, if you believe in anti colonialism, then why don't you like, cut your own throat at the doors of the Bureau of Indian Affairs or whatever you know like why don't why don't you like sacrifice your own settler being to the native movement.  No one's going to say like oh no we don't want your help because you're a settler or whatever it doesn't mean that like you're not going to lead the movement for land back in the place that you're from or whatever. But there are absolutely 110% plenty of opportunities from people of all backgrounds to contribute to the native cause, wherever they are when they're from. So if you're watching this from the San Francisco Bay Area from Muwekma Land go to Muwekma.org M-U-W-E-K-M-A.org and learn about the campaign to restore recognition to the tribe, you know, like learn about what the actual campaigns are in the place that you're from or in the place that you're living and build up actual relationships to the people doing that work. And then there are a lot of answers right there are like as many answers as there are campaigns and as many answers as there are places that these are like place based campaigns and we need to understand them as place based campaigns as land defense as water defense as earth care. And that's that's a lot of what my next book is going to be about. So hopefully I'll have some answers for people about where I see leadership coming from in this moment and going on to the future. But yeah, like learn about what's actually going on where you are in as opposed to like thinking about these things in terms of like really abstract rights because that's not how this question in particular functions it doesn't work that way. And not just not just politically but in some ways also the kind of what the book shows the kind of embedding of or the very material dependence of current, you know, regimes of capitalist exploitation within the metropole of, you know, exploitation of some of the workers itself depends on this longer history of settler colonialism ongoing processes of dispossession and exploitation in the global south. And there's a question that alludes to the theme of bifurcation in the book and in the labor market. It seems that the, you know, not only is it is it possible not only is it a good idea on on political grounds but, you know, the, the idea that it's, it's that it's even possible to sort of address, you know, the exploitation of the labor aristocracy, so to speak, without engaging, you know, broader questions of imperialism and ongoing presence of settler colonialism seems to me to be quite naive. And this well it's I think it goes to this question of class abstractionism versus class dynamism and his class class membership and class interests something that just exists and we need to like ignore all the confounding elements of our work that we might suggest that we join some other kind of political collectivity and just focus on our existence as members of the proletariat as non capitalists as workers. Or is it is it a activity that we have to do do we have to build class forces by bringing those common interests to the fore. Maria Barker has a really interesting way of thinking about it where she talks about the common interest in the preservation of the earth that unites both industrial and what she calls meta industrial workers. Other people call care workers or other kinds of workers, non productive or however you want to do it. But that that interest in the preservation of the earth has to be created that it doesn't just it's not self evident to people. And clarification in the chat was Stephanie Barker happened to have her book right here, The Forces of reproduction by Stephanie Barker. Where she talks about that question very directly and I think does a really good job of of talking about how we need to build class belonging as a working element within society, not just sort of say, Okay, all all workers have worker class interest and therefore the things that workers do are the things that are in their worker class interest, which I think is leads people into some cul-de-sacs which we've seen where like, you know, if you say that the IBEW is the revolutionary subject that's going to build itself and build public power at the same time. And then the IBEW some comes out and says like, we think there should be more fossil fuel powered crypto mines. Those people should probably not be in charge of like planning the entire society right and so if you're like, if your model is question begging and it's not actually attached to what's going on in the real dynamics. Then that shows that we need to like be intervening in this that it needs to be a political process not something that we can just assume. I think that's one thing that the, again, the kind of laundry historical perspective of the book is really useful for for illuminating because class can look like this static abstraction, you know, from the perspective of of one can juncture. So when you zoom out and, you know, you take a look at these dynamic processes and unfolding in history becomes, I think, a bit clearer the possibility of sort of pinning pinning it down and saying, you know, there, there is is the kind of the real, the real class that sort of, you know, recognize strip away all the sort of, you know, whatever identity based baggage that sort of presents us from seeing this sort of essence. Yeah, I think it's not a coincidence that Mike Davis is both the great historian of class dynamism within the American context, as well as the great historical historian of California. That California just has so many examples of how that project can succeed and fail and the just the way that class is so totally variegated from the very, very, very, very beginning. And not just by gender though certainly by gender and not not just by race though certainly by race but also by language by immigration status by country of origin by like by region of origin by race slash ethnicity right like the first restrictive immigration law was the page act, which didn't just before Chinese exclusion banned Asian women in particular. Like from the very, very beginning like the formation of the working class in California. In this Anglo American history is so totally dynamic across all these other tons of variables that it's impossible to think of classes just something that you can extract from the labor capital relation. So that that leads me to my, my final question and we can wrap up the subtitle of this book is a history of California capitalism and the world. I'm wondering if you know thinking about, again thinking about our understanding of our current injunction, what's to be done as well as the history the sort of relative priority of these of these concepts. You know, is California the the the fulcrum, or is California a useful collection of examples, or is it a secret third thing. Yeah, so I originally I think that the original title was, I just had California capitalism in the world, you know, very much more like academic or whatever. The publisher was like not quite feeling it and I looked through a bunch of other like books that so I've sold a bunch of copies or whatever and I said what if we put in the word history right there and nailed it history of California capitalism world like you got it. It's a it's a like expanding right so California capitalism the world you get bigger and bigger it's a little like intentionally funny or whatever. California is this puzzle piece that completes the capitalist world as a world system for the first time. It really is this hinge that it allows the world capitalist system to exist and California goes from being the furthest hinterland as far as the world is considered California is the end of the world. As far as the world system is concerned and it goes very very very quickly from being one of the least developed places to being the center of this new system. And so, in some ways, capitalism and the world itself the world as a as a place that understand itself as such proceed from California. Partly just sounds nice. But I think it really does it does describe my my object. And people people have been interested in it seeing California in terms of world history rather than America notice that America is not in the subhead. A good good reminder of the possibility of everything to change very quickly. Well, thank you. I think that we're going to wrap up here. All right. Well, thank you Eric. Thank you Malcolm. As we sort of prefaced at the beginning we were hoping this would be a different sort of conversation. Look at the long delay help us take better grasp of the present moment and the fields that we study so closely so thank you both for the wine ranging the insightful the enlightening conversation. We will not have a speaker series event next week but we will finish up with three last events after Thanksgiving, focused on intimate privacy policies on platforms. The future of social media research with all the changing API policies, and then also a deep dive into the Facebook election studies as well. So thank you once again Malcolm and Eric and we hope to see you all on zoom or in person in Cambridge for our last couple events. Thank you guys. Thank you all. Thanks.


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some life a man alone walking along one of the approaches high up over the street below and unknown to him another man carl fabian higher up drawn back in the shadows of a support column watching waiting expectively and then as the two figures converge carl fabian steps out good evening mr evan who was it the name is fabian carl fabian oh mr fabian what do you want i'm just a little curious that's all curious as about you your friends are you enjoying this job here is forming i mean i'm getting along to know there's something in the paper about the crime commission asking you questions about the latimer construction company i'm not supposed to discuss that with anybody mr fabian not even with me the real head of latimer construction look ovens there are other jobs better paying you think you might be interested you're offering me a better job maybe if you've no objection to traveling i like it here in town there might be a sizable cash bonus evans in fact i'm quite sure it could be arranged i'm not interested well you should be i might say you better be evans it's important to me that you leave this job and get out of town i'm offering you money in a job well for your information mr fabian i intend to report this entire conversation when i'm called in by the crime commission really and what makes you think you'll ever be called again mr evans what makes you think you'll be able to answer their questions get away from me i haven't done anything so you like it here hey well that's fine because you're gonna be here a long time he went over the railing didn't he carl the simple clean cut way to be rid of the talkative mr harry evans it's the way matters like this were attended to in some of your less legitimate enterprises where you got your start before you moved in on construction work but now you know that you must get down there carl 50 feet below make certain that evans is dead at the end of the ramp you catch sight of them freezing your tracks as you see something else lantern the night watchman carl and coming your way you leap back into the protection of the tool shed crouch against its dark shadows the watchman calls out to someone ready get over here something's happened what is it matt who is it matt what happened to the guy he went over the rail still alive i think you better go for the ambulance oh gosh the poor devil harry mac the ambulance maybe there's a chance yeah yeah i'll hurry he's alive isn't he carl alive harry evans the conscientious foreman that your partner and frontman joe lathimer had hired the foreman so conscientious he made a habit of visiting the job every night it was this nightly habit that decided you to pay him this unexpected visit and now he's still alive and there's nothing you can do about it not now now you can only think of a state but even that seems impossible doesn't it and then finally the whale of an ambulance i assume the attendants join the night watchman employed by the latimer construction company and the man he called mac now yours he's done for accident huh yeah that's what it was you say he's forming on the job that's right harry evans he was in the habit of stopping by here at night looking things over and see if you two don't mind answering a few questions certainly not at all your name wagner address 44 20 east ellis it was terribly close wasn't a car the watchman reaching harry evans before he died you weren't even sure that he hadn't found out something mature sure you're in the clear his report to the ambulance attendant was simple and complete accidental death they'll call it and you're sure you're rid of harry evans rid of him forever the following evening your mind is on more pleasant things the occasion a smart supper party and a girl named leona to help put you in a pleasant frame of mine the attractive niece of judge victor mayfey and you seem to be practically the only man she cares to dance with you've come a long way in the past few years haven't you carl many people think of you as a legitimate businessman but despite your responsible front at heart you're still the same racketeer you've always been aren't you car well carl you seem to be enjoying yourself after all i didn't say i wouldn't leona i thought i was surprised at the judge putting an appearance so was he oh i'm used to having my own way perhaps it's best that you know that and i'm part of your plan why not an eligible bachelor perhaps one of the most sought after carl fabian 40-ish single tall rugged handsome sounds like a description more western now oh let me finish head of fabian enterprises a real political force in our fair city oh i don't know about that i do the judge does we also know you're the brains and money behind the latino construction company what about it nothing except that it's a distinction to be part of the city's great expansion growth yeah yeah it is well don't sound so somber oh sorry oh the music stopped sorry about that too yeah i really am come on meet my uncle who knows someday you might get a parking ticket and if the judge could do me any good what could i do for him you could at least be pleasant maybe even help him remodel his home isn't that what some of you big contractors try to do little favors for influential men leona you're quite a good oh i'm on good behavior tonight besides yeah you're quite a bullet well carl everything is perfect isn't it seems you're on top of the world and the following day after the supper party even the nervousness of your partner joe latimer supposed head of the latimer construction company fails to dim your optimistic outlook joe on the other hand is very upset as you talk in the privacy of your penthouse apart take it easy joe i tell you everything's going to be all right i hope you're right have you heard anything to the contern no but carl i've been meaning to speak to you we're writing too high it's dangerous but fun joe fun i'm not so sure i i don't sleep so good lately joe you'd better take a little brandy in your coffee you're shaking no no i i'm okay well good because you see joe if you're getting any ideas about pulling out i mean well remember this evan's thing doesn't stand all by itself let's remember how we built the latimer construction company how we'll go on building oh no carl i have no intention of changing anything good boy i just want you to reassure me that's all that we'll have no problem nobody suspects anything about harry evan nobody does joe there's no way believe me it's simple harry evans was about to talk to the wrong people the crime commission you and i knew he would have said the wrong thing yes yes i know you like evans work for me that's all i i'm not criticizing car we have to look out for ourselves now you're talking you see joe you expecting somebody no i hope we may have a room no need asking for cobble okay good idea job good morning mr fabian oh the tenant race good morning come in now just out by for a routine questioning i suppose you heard about the foreman on a latimer bridge job being killed that's very tragic accident we're not too sure about that accident part mr fabian huh uh mind telling me when you last saw harry evans the foreman only at the question you know the crime committee yes yes i know they start him again next week huh as i understand evans were supposed to be able to make it pretty hot for you mr fabian did you know that might no idea we weren't personal friends so i understand but he uh worked for a friend of you always did me oh i know joe latimer if that's what you mean that's what i mean okay mr fabian i'll see you at the crime hearings huh i'll be there later i believe all of us should feel at our duty to come forward and answer anything anytime yeah i'm sure you do okay good morning mr fabian are you sure you won't come in lieutenant have a cup of coffee yes i'm sure thanks just the same see you around where the cop wasn't caught a cop lieutenant race yes why the difference does it make how can you ask that how can you stand there not blink an eye when there's police around asking questions mild your simple because i'm a man with nothing to fear that's our you worry about construction job oh incidentally contact frank helsey for me to die frank helsey why i think judge may feel he's going to want some work done around his house around his house we're not interested in jobs like that but the kelsey construction company will be tell frank i said to submit a little bit on any work the judge requires tell him i mean low enough to be sure he gets the job i don't follow it's simple joe i'll be able to hold it over the judge is the later date just in case we need somebody on our side oh sure sure i'll talk to frank helsey this morning you do that joe and now you better run out the office keep things coming you know nose to the grainstone and all that sure sure carla i was just leaving joe is the nervous type isn't he called liable to go to pieces under pressure you on the other hand must see that no pressure occurs you must keep a tight rain on your operation a few moments later the door buzzer sounds again you wonder if joe's nerves have gotten the best of him and to be packed for more assurance but that isn't the case the man at the door is the last man on earth that you want to see right now hello mr davian uh hello i can see you don't remember me well it's understandable yes we never did meet face to face i uh seem to recall your voice oh you heard it that night huh where were you uh maybe hiding my the tool shed a night watch the night watchman really job mr davian nothing like this penthouse and all thought maybe you'd want to help me change it all change it yes you see um harry evans wasn't quite dead when i reached him remember he whispered your name no one will ever believe that it's it's fantastic oh come off it you don't really think you're going to send me away with a remark like that now mr davian i think you're 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our power to make your stops at signal stations as well as your miles behind the wheels happy one well carl until the night watchman in the bridge construction job dropped in you thought you were in the clear you were certain though it weren't you carl certain that no one can prove that you had killed harry evans to prevent him from appearing as a witness in the forthcoming crime committee hearing but now carl your visitor the night watchman at the bridge job heard evans brand you was a killer you could deny it all couldn't you carl or you could silence the little man who now stands before you in your living room twisting a battered hat in his hand i know what's going through your mind just about now mr fabian there i think you should know that i didn't come up here tonight without any uh protection i wrote a letter everything i know about that little accident in that letter i see now if anything wants to happen to me oh nothing well you need to worry about that mr wagner did you make call me urney all my friends call me urney all right any um sit down thanks thanks mr fabian i will uh tell me urney how do you like your present job fine just fine would you like it better at say you double your present sound well that sounds real interesting only if it's more money you want i wouldn't mind that mr fabian but then what is it well i'm sort of getting along you know time a man of my years retired of course i mean i quite agree i i think you misunderstand me i said double the salary i said nothing about you having to work oh well that's mighty nice of you mr fabian real generous i think so too well uh it's settlement sure sure mr fabian you've disposed of the threat temporarily at least haven't your car yes and that's all you wanted to do for the moment but you know a man like urney wagner can be dangerous because of what he knows what he can do and you know too that before long you'll have to rid yourself of him somehow permanently the following morning you call the latimer company mr latimer's office uh no oh hello carl how are you fine honey is uh latimer day uh no he went out some time ago but he'll be back this afternoon sure i haven't called you yeah would you do that we know uh any no yeah mr latimer had a visitor this morning the district attorney the district attorney they had a very long talk i see what about well i don't know i i tried to find out but when i walked into the office they climbed up they were in the office for about an hour and when they came out mr latimer told the da he'd think it over and let him know thanks honey buy yourself something and send me the bell as usual it's something to worry about isn't it carl the district attorney's visit to latimer's office it's possible that latimer is going to be called as a witness at the crime committee hearings isn't it and you wonder why latimer hasn't told you about it there must be a reason car yes perhaps the district attorney has offered him a deal latimer could double cross you couldn't tell him what he knows you decide to have a little chat with him as soon as possible but because he's delayed at coal town you have to wait till the next day to see him yeah good morning sir oh calm sit down oh thanks what's on your mind well first of all joe uh how about that kelsey bed oh it went through okay judge accepted it health insurance started on it this morning fine fine something else you wanted to talk about oh yeah i uh want you to double a man's salary Joe a man named wagner Ernie Wagner oh the night watchman on the bridge job what's the idea black male what he knows i pushed harry evans off that ramp he knows yeah harry was still alive and the watchman reached him i see now look carl about his salary what's wrong well couldn't you handle it some other way i i don't want to get me we do it my way he gets twice the money in retirement okay okay and stop worrying i'm the guy who's to appear before the committee not you i know carl but you haven't been summoned at him me why no no okay but if by any chance you are summoned you'll let me know right away won't you joe yeah sure i'll let you know carl fine well i've got an appointment i'll see him okay carl and i'm yes carl i want you to keep a very close tap on what goes on around here from now on very well carl i want to know every move latimer makes who is visitors are who talks to one the phone you understand yes i understand carl it's important you keep a close watch on latimer from now on isn't it carl until you decide what you must do he didn't mention the district attorney's visit so you know he intends to double cross shoot but before that happens you'll know about it won't you yes you know you can count on edna there's no word from her the next day but the following morning she called okay sweetheart what is it latimer just talked to judge mayfield on the phone mayfield what'd he say nothing much except he made an appointment to meet the judges at home tonight eight o'clock let's see then he called the district attorney's office ask the da to meet him at the judge's home the district attorney is bringing us tonight that's tonight over all right Edna thanks you know exactly what your partner joe latimer plans to do don't you call yes first you'll reveal the trap you set up to implicate judge mayfield and then he's going to file a written statement with the district attorney reveal all he knows about you and your activities but that meeting isn't going to take place is it because you're going to act first you call the owner make a date ask her to stop by your apartment first for cocktail you'll need a perfect alibi for what you plan what you call and who could prove a better one than the niece of judge mayfield and that evening when she arrives sorry i'm late darling only a few minutes i'm afraid i'm the one who's lately on i just got here a few minutes ago business appointment haven't had time to change it uh you will mention cocktails could the lady have one while she waits uh chairman house boy is fixing a batch of martinis now extra dry just the way you like good hey let me take you thanks i don't go away silly man as if i would you hurry into the bedroom then slip out onto the terrace down the fire escape to the next floor there you take the private elevator down to the garage in a few moments later you're racing toward judge mayfield house 10 minutes to wait you're standing in the shadows along the front walk to the judge's house a few minutes later a car stops in front then you hear footsteps approaching hello lettering car calling in the judge oh yeah oh yeah i don't think you'll make it joe well now wait car let me explain i'm that time sorry joe 10 minutes later you're back in your bedroom changing quickly into your evening clothes your little plan worked perfectly didn't call no slips and you're highly pleased with the way things have turned out for you i'm sorry it takes a long manner i'm a bit of a slow poke where it comes to dressing 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lieutenant yeah what's all this about joe latimer was murdered tonight mr fabian show murdered good lord inhabitant front of judge may feel house the judge heard the shot and found the body oh how horrible and get right to the point mr fabian where were you this evening highly on and i would be halloween club of course nine trimming me in on the time mr fabian no i'm gonna see him arrived here at the apartment shortly after seven thirty that's right somewhere around eight fifteen and went directly to the club mm-hmm joe latimer was killed at approximately ten minutes to wait where were you at ten minutes of eight mr fabian well don't you're right here the hornet can tell you are he with you all the time as anders well no he went into the bedroom to dress how long was he in there oh 10 15 minutes i suppose now but maybe he wasn't in the bedroom you could have slept out mr fabian drove over to judge may feel house and kill adamant that's interesting lieutenant i'm afraid you'll have to have some proof to get very far i think i have these your shoes mr fabian my shoes i found them in your bedroom you look closely you'll see traces of fresh cement on what the cement you stepped in was almost dry otherwise you probably would have noticed it when you change your shoes i don't know what you're talking about the killer left some perfect footprints in the cement a judge may feel new patio and if the prince match your shoes the judge's patio that's right the judges having some work done around the new house the cement patio had been put in just this morning by the kelsey construction company but i don't suppose you'd know anything about that would you mr fabian let that whistle be your signal for the signal oil program the whistler each sunday night at this same time signal oil company has asked me to remind you there's an easy way we can all help to make this holiday season happier for ourselves and others drive at sensible speeds be courteous and obey traffic regulations 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All right so I don't know if any of you have ever had any regrets in your life. I know there are like some people who are like oh man I don't regret anything that I do it's just a learning experience well that's not me there are things that I've done that I regret and this video is going to be about some things that I wish I would have done prior to PA school although I have completed PA school and I've graduated and that is great and all nice and dandy there's like one major major major regret that I have about like not doing this like prior to PA school and like while in PA school and then like the others are kind of like you know maybe like 2b 2a type of stuff so that's what this video is going to be about what's up you guys it's down and welcome back to my channel if you have not already done so please go ahead and subscribe join me on this journey take a look around my channel go ahead and leave me a comment in the comment section below if you have any questions on anything or any video ideas please go ahead and do that right now leave me a comment drop me a line all right so I'm going to be talking about some things that I wish I would have done prior to PA school there's a lot there's not that much but I'm going to list off three things like one thing I wish I would have done prior to PA school was travel a lot more and I'm you know I'm trying to do that now like well I have like free time but I honestly wish I would have traveled more because while I was in PA school like you don't have time really and truly to do that stuff like yes we get vacations for like Thanksgiving and Christmas and my school did give us like a spring break and some like little odds and ends vacations here and there but I mean you're like studying the majority of the time honestly really and truly and you're just kind of not in the mood like you're you want to go do stuff but like you just feel so inundated with like pressure that you don't realize like hey time is passing you by and you're not getting to experience this stuff so had I done that prior to PA school I think I would have like I don't know maybe enjoyed PA school a little bit more like had things to look back on I had a devotion this morning and it was talking about like remembering the good times right and so essentially like yes when you're going through like these moments of like oh I'm dying out here you remember the blessings that God has given you in the past and so I think if I had done that I would have remembered those good times throughout the process and it may not have been as difficult as it was emotionally I guess you could say but who cares right now right I've graduated I've gone through it and I'm good to go but this should be helpful for those of you who are thinking about going into PA school another thing that I wish I had done I know people ask me a lot about like classes and I typically am like oh man like there's not really any classes like nothing is going to prepare you for PA school and although that's like kind of true it's not completely true there are things that you can kind of brush up on so definitely your anatomy and physiology can brush up on that but one thing I wish I had a little bit more knowledge of was pharmacology and the farm drugs and so I didn't have to take pharmacology and undergrad um some people do but I didn't and so when I came to PA school I was completely like blindsided with these drugs like there are certain things that you had like familiarity with like your you know your NSA's because everybody takes like an ibuprofen but in terms of you know knowing like your antihypertensive drugs or hyperlipidemic drugs and you know the classes of these drugs the mechanisms of actions the generic names versus the brand names the contraindications like these are all things that you have to know when you're dealing with pharmacology because you need to know how they will affect your patient's body um you know any type of side effects that they may experience that may want them to not take the drug anymore and for me I was like what I don't know any of this but there were students that were like nurses prior or you know EMTs or they were in like the emergency room there were texts that saw like the use of these drugs like on a consistent basis and that necessarily wasn't me and so I felt like if I had taken like a pharmacology class or had known more about pharmacology prior to PA school it would have helped me a whole lot in my farm class because we had farm all three semesters of didactic years so that is something if you have that ability or opportunity to do that you know definitely take a pharmacology class get brushed up on those drugs at least get introduced to the material because it will be a benefit to you in PA school and my number one thing that I wish I would have done prior to PA school was learn another language and specifically Spanish so guys like this is like the bane of my existence not not being bilingual in something and I really wish I learned how to speak Spanish um you know I had to take Spanish in like high school and I don't remember taking it in undergrad um I don't think I needed it for my degree and so with that being said I feel like if I had taken like a year or two like I had some friends that took Spanish or did Spanish as a minor and they went off to like Argentina and Spain for the summer and words like you know kind of immersed in the culture and they came back and they were like fluently speaking the language I think man like I would be a bomb a PA like I would be so good because I would be able to communicate with my patients just more like fluid like you know I'd be able to talk to my Spanish speaking patients and understand them and understand exactly like what's going on with them instead of using a translator because although I don't speak Spanish fluently there are certain words that I still remember from high school and just in passing like you know I used to be a server and a lot of the staff that I worked with were Hispanics and so they would like teach me some phrases and words so I do remember some things you guys and I know that when I'm telling you something I'm telling my patients something through the translator and I know when you're not telling them exactly the way that I said it and I want it said like exactly this way and so if I could be the one actually giving that information I think it would be such a benefit to the actual like back and forth that you the rapport that you would build with your patients so definitely if you could like start from that if you're a freshman and you're watching this or you're a senior in high school and you're watching this and you're like man I want to go this medical route the PA route and P like because this will help you across the board in health care it's definitely learn another language I suggest starting off with Spanish if you already speak Spanish go on and try to learn French all right so if you have any other questions please leave them in the comment section below if you have not already done so go ahead and like this video subscribe and follow me on instagram and don't PA thank you guys so much for watching I will talk to you guys next time bye


Just in case there's somebody that's wondering who are these guys, I'll introduce the crew of STS-7. Commander Bob Crippen, pilot Rick Halk, mission specialist John Fabian, Sally Ride and Norm Thaggerd. Thank y'all, appreciate such a large group coming out today. We're looking forward to it. If we can keep weather like this, we're certainly ready to go on Saturday. I think the Kennedy launch team has done a super job once again and proven that they can turn around a vehicle faster than we've ever done it before. And we're looking forward to getting airborne just as soon as we can. Everybody say hello. Rick, step up the bike. Sure good to be back and look forward to being back in about nine days. Or maybe ten. Rick said that pretty well. I don't think I can add anything. Sure thank y'all for coming out. It's always been good to come to KSC, but I think we have special reasons for thinking that this is a little bit better than normal. Thanks a lot. It's good to be home in Florida and although I usually hate to leave it, I guess I'll be glad to leave it at least on Saturday. It's good to be here. Thank y'all very much. This is shuttle launch control, T-minus three hours and holding. The astronaut flight crew of Bob Crippen, Rick Halk, John Fabian, Sally Ride and Norm and Thaggerd are presently in the room in the astronaut quarters ready for breakfast. Commander Bob Crippen is in the center of the group, all of them wearing striped t-shirts this morning. Bob Crippen, commander of the seventh flight of the space shuttle, will be the first astronaut to have flown on the shuttle for the second time. He was pilot on the first space shuttle launch just slightly more than two years ago. Born in Beaumont, Texas, he grew up in nearby Porter. He's a captain in the US Navy, married and has three daughters. Crippen has also been selected as a commander of the STS-13 crew, which will be the first mission to recover an ailing spacecraft from orbit, the solar maximum mission. Seated on his left is mission specialist Dr. Sally Ride, who will be the first US woman to fly into space. Dr.  Seated at the end of the table is Rick Halk, who is the pilot on this mission. He joined the astronaut corps in 1978 after a distinguished career as a naval aviator. He served in Vietnam and was named the Outstanding Navy Test Pilot in 1972. A number of other people joining the astronauts for breakfast, which has a large cake with the patch which was designed especially for the STS-7 crew, which is always baked by the manager of the astronaut office here at the Kennedy Space Center, Nancy Gunner. This is shuttle launch control, T-minus 2 hours, 28 minutes, 15 seconds and counting. And our astronaut crew has just left their crew quarters, moving into the elevator to come down to the first floor of the ONC building for their trip to the pad. Commander Bob Crippen leading the way and everybody crowding into the elevator so that they can get down to the bottom. Just prior to that, the NASA test director said that there would be another checkpoint. He asked everybody to look at their criteria and that he'll be getting back to them prior to the actual time when the crew goes on board. But at this point, there are no constraints to the launch. A number of employees flashing their cameras as the crew comes out led by Commander Bob Crippen. John Fabian, the tallest of the group, once quite worried that he was just too tall to be an astronaut with a rumor of spacecraft that's not a problem. Dr. Norman Fagard bringing up the year has the distinction of being the first medical doctor to fly in the space. And the crew will be going out to the pad in a recreational vehicle or a tight vehicle this time. The last trip of the old Astro van, which has taken astronauts to the pad for many years, has been completed now. The crews are getting larger and there's no longer room to accommodate everybody that's necessary. The door being closed and this is an interim Astro van and will be replaced in the future. This is the largest crew. One of the first on the STS-7 mission is the size of the crew, which is at five is the largest one to have flown so far. But that number is going to be going up to seven and possibly more on future flights. A van pulling away from the O&C building where the astronaut quarters are located in the industrial area. Commander Bob Crippen now in the white room putting his Snoopy hat on and then he'll be putting on his launch and entry helmet. During the first few flights of the shuttle a full pressure suit was needed and so the helmets attached to that suit. However nowadays only coveralls are used plus a special harness which is used for restrained and emergencies. Commander Bob Crippen being brushed off with a whisk room and now his shoes being wiped off so that he doesn't track any dirt into the clean interior. He has just padded these suit technician on the back and is now entering the orbiter challenger. Pilot Rick Hawk moving into the area shaking hands with the technicians up there prior to putting on his vest. And he'll be the second one to enter the orbiter for the seventh mission of the space shuttle. The countdown clock at T minus two hours five minutes thirty seconds and counting this is shuttle launch control. First the focus of media attention around the world has been on Dr. Sally Ride who emphasizes that she's a mission specialist and a scientist who just also happens to be a woman. However as the first woman to fly in space on board a U.S. spacecraft history is undoubtedly going to focus on that as well as her accomplishments to date such as a doctorate in physics from Stanford University. She's married to Dr. Steven A. Hawley who also is an astronaut. She was also selected in 1978 and served as capsule communicator for the STS-2 and STS-3 missions. During this mission she's going to have a number of vital tasks to perform such as launching the Palapa satellite and deployment and recovery of the SPAS-1 spacecraft honors that she'll share with fellow mission specialist John Fabian. Dr. Thaggerd has the distinction of being the first medical doctor to fly and he will be taking a close first hand look at the effects of motion on human in space. Prior to becoming the starting of his medical studies he had been a captain in the Marine Corps and a naval aviator flying 163 combat missions in Vietnam. He then came back to the states and took his doctor of medicine degree from Texas Southwestern Medical School in 1977 and was an intern when he learned of the call for new astronauts and was selected for that program in 1978 also. T-minus 25 seconds and counting. The sequencer on board now controlling the final seconds. T-minus 17 seconds and counting. The body flap and speed breaker and launch position. T-minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. We go for main engine start. We have main engine start. And ignition and liftoff. Liftoff of STS-7 and America's first woman astronaut and the shuttle has cleared the tower. T-minus 221 nautical mile. Again, I need to be getting an absolute here in the dark but I could not get the stars right now. They sure are nice. Because we're taking out of thousands. Another space first. That's a beautiful shot. And there again you see Challenger with its tail pointed toward the earth. Here's the product of the sun's reflection off the radiators. There she goes. That's her shift over to the delta camera and you can see the two-year band antenna there very briefly. It is time to put on your socks and get into the day. And this morning... 45,000 feet, driving directly from the south at 10 knots. Speed 255 knots, altitude 34,000 feet. Touching the hack now. 18 miles to touchdown. 30,000 feet. 257 knots on the wide sweeping left turn around the hack. 25,000 feet. 260 knots. 20,000 feet. Final now. Right on the nominal track. Flight dynamics officer will just bolt reports. On glide slope and turning toward the centerline. 14,000 feet. 292 knots. Your energy looks good. Surface wind 180 at 10. 10,000 feet at 282 knots. On glide slope on centerline. 1500 feet. 281 knots. 87 knots. The unofficial touchdown time. In mission elapsed time. 6 days. 2 hours 24. Minutes 10 seconds. That time is unofficial. Roger, we see that. Congratulations, a great look in landing. And from the entry team, we've got some good news. The beer is very, very cold this morning. The bad news is it's 3,000 miles away. That's what I was afraid of. And I'll hand you over to the good guy Gardner here and he'll talk to you about your post-landing. Talk to that. Just a marking now. Crewman going to walk around inspection of Challenger.