Postphysik Så där så där får de gå in to progress in the main exercises in the gym Then some other guy might be, you know, more inclined to do parkour or something like that, you know, a bit lighter guy He focuses on Calisthenics etc. Then you have, you know, a stockier guy who wants to go into powerlifting or strongman So I would say you will eventually gravitate towards the thing you get the most results from But main point, main point of the philosophy of taking the glories pill is to get better continuously Then what you get better at is of course up to you, what you like, what you see the most results in But, you know, getting that confidence from continuous improvement That is what we're about, so I don't necessarily want everyone to look exactly the same way I just want you to be the best version of yourself you can be And, you know, get that joy, happiness and confidence from the continuous progression From Chris, when can we expect the launch of jute name nutrition in Germany Also, have you ever gone hunting or have you considered getting a hunter's license Hopefully it will be for my birthday, so in 10 days actually So on the 31st of July I aim to open the webshop for Germany and the rest of Europe And I will keep you updated on it in regards to hunting license that was on my to-do list But for this year but then Nurgle sent the Covid pandemic and cancelled everything So I will have to postpone it but it's definitely in my, in the future plans to get a hunter's license From Alex, will you be continuing your history videos? Yes, I will most definitely, I have at least two cool enough videos I suppose one Viking Age and then one medieval type video incoming So, yeah, they are not, the series is still alive but as I said before in a recent video I've had a little period of lower intensity here on YouTube But more will come I assure you Then a question regarding music which I respond to in a private message as well But it's in regards to music and how music can help the greater struggle to revive Europe And of course music is hugely important, music is a great way to, you know Elaborate on a political message in a more digestible way so to speak I like more about this in Dauntless for anyone who is interested But yes, definitely the more music on our side the better Then from Ron, what's your opinion on creatine? Yeah, it's one of these supplements I recommend to basically everyone who trains martial arts or in the gym You know, plenty of evidence behind it And it's been a popular supplement for decades for a reason because it works It's not magic but it's definitely something I recommend that you should take I myself use a teaspoon a day, swallow it directly with some water I don't use any load up face but because it messes up your You need to go to the bathroom quite often it's not so pleasant So yeah, just take one teaspoon a day and I use creatine monohydrate Because yeah, most studies behind it so from my man Joseph Will there be a return to the Legeocheltica shirt And when did you get the idea to start Legeochloria The origin story or something is what I would find interesting Yeah, so basically first and foremost yes the Legeocheltica will be back I don't know on what sort of garment but we have a cool design for it at least So that will be incoming sometime during the autumn In regards to the origin story I've always had an interest in style aesthetics And also clothing and it was a quite natural step for me to take To create a clothing brand because ultimately I want to I'm quite picky when it comes to most things, supplements, food, clothing, what I wear So if I can determine that myself so I don't need to have some Thing made in China by a slave laborer or something Of course I want to take the opportunity to be the captain of my own ship Provide good clothes for myself and then to all supporters as well So it was always in the pipeline ever since long time ago So it was always in the back of my mind to someday do it Then an opportunity presented itself and yeah I took it from there So yeah and it's been a hell of a journey, a glorious journey indeed Come quite far I'd say we have good launches still to come So good times, good times And again thank you to everyone who has purchased anything It allows me to continue to develop things making it bigger and better Then we have a question from Raphael from Brazil Who is of Polish and German ancestry And is from the south of Brazil And you have a larger German population, European population And they still have more European traditions than the rest of Brazil And since they have those traditions They get criticized from other Brazilians That they are larping as Europeans Or that they are ashamed to be Brazilian etc And then Raphael wonder what my question is Since I was born and live in a nation different than the nations which my ancestors came Am I wrong to identify with and celebrate their culture and traditions You know if I was from Polish and German descent Or I'd come to Brazil later than the original settlers I probably too would celebrate more the German ancestry The German traditions, Oktoberfest, everything like that I don't see why you would necessarily want to go up in the mainstream Brazilian culture It's not if you compare Polish and German culture to Brazilian culture Yeah it's probably a better culture That is more in tune with your nature If you're still, well the majority of your ancestors are from Europe So I don't think there is anything wrong with it And ultimately if you can choose between two cultures Choose the one that is a more congruent with your soul And be the one you like, the one you feel more comfortable with So I don't see anything wrong with clinging to European tradition at all From Ozarkar, greetings the golden one Checking in from a scenic mountain road I was wondering what you thought of building physical spaces As well as political infrastructure in order to promote the welfare of our nations and our countrymen I know many are against this because feds and the risk of infiltration Especially in the US However these spaces could just be invite only gyms, your friends barbershop, etc Very innocent on the surface and simply allow like minded men to meet Yeah I'm definitely for this You know we have in Sweden the house of sweds We can have gatherings, we can have events there without being cancelled, etc And it's all in the open anyway We're not discussing anything illegal That's ultimately the best way to ensure you don't get into trouble Don't plan anything illegal, don't say anything illegal Then it doesn't matter if you have a fed there or something Because what will you do if you only talk about Roman history Or European traditions I mean they can't really do anything What they want is for you to say something that they can then take you for So they might throw out like oh we should totally do this to that minority group And then they gauge ok what guys says yeah we should do it And what guys say you know what this is not the rhetoric we use at all This is not what we're about So be more mindful of the actual people you are surrounding yourself with So I'd say physical spaces are important If you're against it it's better to just set the tone, set the social How you talk to each other, set a high standard If you don't let any looser nationalist come in and have a bad tone Which will get you all into trouble So I'd say if you're afraid of feds etc It's more important to distance yourself from dodgy individuals And there are a lot of dodgy individuals who are attracted to right wing ideals etc That's why we need to post physique So you know they are legit Theo, greetings golden one Do you recommend using belts in the gym for novices If so, at what weight approximately would you recommend it Thank you for the wisdom No I would say that you should train without the belt for as long as possible Then you will probably get to a stage when you do squats and deadlifts Where you can feel on the lower back that it would be a good insurance to have a belt So that is my advice When to start using it, it will be up to you You can feel it when you get to a point where you say better safe than sorry Then it can be a good idea but try to do it for as Try to do it without a belt for as long as possible From Matthew, great lion, what are your thoughts on HP Lovecraft I don't know because I haven't read anything from him but I intend to do so There is a cool compilation book called The Necronomikum Which looks absolutely epic So I might read that someday I've heard good things about him I've heard good things about him So yeah it's definitely on my to read list at some stage From Sven, hello lion of Sverige What advice do you have for young single vikings who want a wife Well I sort of responded to that in the previous video On how to optimize your chances of getting a wife But basically the absolute first thing everyone, every young viking Has to think about is to build yourself up And from a good position of attractiveness Then you can start looking for a wife so you don't start looking for a wife The first thing you do is to look yourself in the mirror and say Am I an attractive match for a good woman So but yeah you can check out the former video I made From my man Helvetik John, greetings high elf I know that my present question is a wide topic and I will try to keep it short Over the years I noticed that most right wing in nationalist people Which I personally endorse do believe that man induced climate warning is a scam However an overwhelming majority of the experts and scientists in that field Disclaimer I am also working as a scientist in a closed topic Highlight the actual negative impact of man kind on the climate With data which are hard to deny Note that I'm not blaming anyone for forging his own opinion I'm just trying to understand this split in opinion And I would be highly interested in your thoughts about this global skepticism Keep up the great work Well I would say that a lot of right wing people Especially in America you know these conservatives They see leftists having one position Then they take the opposite position just for the sake of it Sort of same thing in Europe But we do have a longer tradition at least in Europe For actual nationalists to also be quite close to environmental issues The difference is that how the leftists are doing it Or how the globalists are doing it They are only pointing to certain things White middle class and working class men are driving cars And that is you know causing carbon dioxide emissions So therefore they can't drive any cars They have no problem importing you know food Kinoa from South America or cheap products from China That you know pollutes much more So it's more how they are approaching the problem That I you know take issue with But if you're being honest with it It's a completely different question So what I would say is that the left takes a problem From air boom and then places the blame on their usual suspect Which are you know guys like us You know regular guys is trying to make ends meet Instead of placing it on themselves You know some of them are vegans So they import food from halfway across the world Not particularly good in terms of CO2 emissions etc Then also of course they import a lot of products From cheap labour in China And you have China also polluting a lot of rivers etc So I would say that the reluctance of certain right doing individuals It comes from acknowledging that the leftists have a point Now of course as far as I see it I have you know promoted a more local A more sustainable economy for quite some time Especially when it comes to food But also the powers to be They use the climate hysteria for their own purposes Which is to tax and reduce the power Of white middle class and working class That's my take on it at least From Jacob How do you recommend meeting people who share your ideas on European biodiversity in an environment That is outwardly hostile and malicious to the thought of it For context I work and live in a tech area of the new world And any pro European ideals could cost me my career While I work towards financial independence and self employment I'd like advice on how to know where to meet pro European people And how to confirm they are trustworthy I think a lot of guys are a bit too paranoid when it comes to people Again if you're talking about this paranoia Most individuals aren't malicious informers Who will tell your boss if you have said that you like the beauty of European women Or you think that white lives matter Most people, normal regular people That you can sense on them that they are decent individuals It's quite easy to figure out if someone is a wreck Or if someone is a decent individual Yeah they won't inform on you to the authorities Or they won't inform on you to your boss etc Now of course you don't need to say anything controversial When you meet someone you can use gage Okay what sort of interest does this individual have And usually when you meet other guys You can probably sense what sort of individuals they are Do they like training, do they like history Do they like art, do they like beauty Do they like to be out in nature Yeah they're probably on our side So you know you can gage how a person is In his views just by talking to him about his interests That is my experience at least Then of course you don't need to be 100% aligned In terms of ideology, you know that can come later So don't think so much about the purely political I'd say focus more on the personality aspects of it So yeah I don't know if that was much of an answer It's one of these questions that very hard to respond to Because of everyone is in a different situation But as with all things just present yourself in a wholesome and good manner And then you will probably attract similar people From my man Peyton Greetings golden one I was wondering what advice or sources you may have For those wishing to pursue lifting coaching Of course experience is a part of this But if you have any recommended readings for coaching knowledge It would be useful I wish to one day do my part in training our brothers That is an absolutely saluted and worthy motivation First and foremost experience is the key to all enlightenment I would say or to most enlightenment So what you should do is for yourself train as many different setups Schedules, programs as possible Take notes what worked, what worked with what other program What worked during a bulk, what worked during a cut How did your body respond Then if you have a good friend Or someone you can coach for free to try things out on It's absolutely perfect Then of course also it comes down to experience with your own Later on clients For me personally I like to follow up if it's a training schedule or something like that So you sort of get feedback on it Then also I would recommend that you go to different places Perhaps different gyms, a strongman gym Or a powerlifting gym or something Get some pointers from the people there Even if you know that you have the basics all set for yourself It never hurts to get some insights in how they explain things Because then you might say ok this made me really understand How to properly set up a squat position So therefore I can teach my own clients this So the more knowledge you gain and also think of it In the sense that you're not only gaining knowledge for yourself But you're using the knowledge onto others In regards to readings except for my own book Dauntless I don't really have any particular to read lists But you know there are so many resources on the internet Blogs, YouTube videos, pages etc So read and read more And also something to read up on You know sports specific training Some guys they train MMA Tie boxing Then they want to focus on different things in the gym Other guys are only out for you know building as much muscle as possible Some guys are out for only getting strong in I might make a separate video on it later on From Thomas Have you ever tried your hand at calisthenics I've been working on my frontal lever and plunge But these are probably the most difficult workouts I've ever tried Only those with the tightest physique can hold this So I was curious if you could do it I haven't actually tried those I might do it thanks for reminding me And I will post it to Instagram Or to Gains Kitchen video or something But I've done plenty of chins and dips Over the years at least Because they're so accessible From Shane What do you think of parlor Will you be creating an account I have created an account But I probably won't post so much there Because as I've seen Now it's populated mostly by Semi dodgy trump people I'm not all too much aboard on what you're doing You know use the column alt light Not the most trustworthy of individuals So I don't think I'll be posting much there But who knows Hopefully it will be a good platform anyway From my man Paul Clark Other than myself naturally Who is your favorite historical Anglo and why Yes indeed Favorite historical Anglo Tough question A lot of glories Men from Albion Definitely I'll probably go with Alfred The Great Just because the You know the foundation of England He of course fought the Vikings quite a bit But if I had been English myself I'd probably say Alfred The Great And someone I can respect In terms of you know building A nation From Pugja Gupta Mohamad Thoughts on black on white Violence in America Ja absolut horrible situation Absolut nightmare For a lot of white people in America Need to stop I can't really say too much about it Here on Youtube But it is a problem It's a huge problem Trump doesn't really seem to Care all too much about it But horrible situation And for any American Just get a gun So you can protect yourself and your family From Patrick Do you plan on introducing any Mjöing slash Joa exercise To your child in the future And the importance And the importance of nose breathing To ensure proper jaw and skull development Ja, most definitely Most definitely indeed It comes down to good nutrition First and foremost You know good traditional nutrition So we're trying to keep A strict policy of no sugar To start with And then just feeding Our daughter and coming children For good solid traditional food A lot of meat A lot of fat A lot of these sort of things And then of course If she or her siblings For whatever reason Would breathe through their mouth Unless their exercising Would tell them to You know proper nose breathing So yes, definitely something I am keeping in mind From Sora What do you think of this situation With China and Hong Kong Ja, I'd say If I was living in Hong Kong I would probably not want to be Subject to the Chinese regime So of course I'm all for Hong Kong liberty Can it go back to Britain all the better You know I'm not a fan of The British regime either It's not the freest or most glorious But if I got to choose between Britain and China I'd probably choose Britain At least if I lived in Hong Kong So yes I'm all for it And I genuinely feel sympathy For the people in Hong Kong Who are struggling for freedom From Ryan Hello golden one What are your thoughts About pre-workout supplements Such as C4 for example Do they work? Are they worth it? And if so should you take it Before every workout? Well of course I do have my own Beloved Varlsbryggd Which all Swedish guys love I'm sure if you haven't tried it You will probably love it I can't say too much For everyone but keep in mind And this is my recommendation For all pre-workouts They contain a lot of caffeine If you take them too late in the day It might interfere with your sleep And sleep is more important than caffeine For long term performance So if you should take them every day No not really I take Varlsbryggd every once in a while A few times a week maybe Because it's so damn nice It's just a thing that increases the quality of my life But in terms of needing it for optimal gains No you absolutely do not You need a good diet You need a good sleep And you need to continuously progress in the temple So I wouldn't necessarily recommend it For anyone who is Titan cash Or someone who trains late in the day If you have the opportunity To train earlier in the day And money is not a problem Yeah definitely it can be a good idea But I sell it myself But I say to everyone It's not something you need for ultimate performance Then you can go with creatine It's much cheaper And actually does something For the long term results From David How are you ensuring your child Is growing up with wholesome values And isn't consumed by degenerate media etc Do you have any other thoughts On how to raise a child in the modern era Very good question And something I will probably Make a separate video on later on But basically My wife and I of course both Are setting good examples for the children By being wholesome ourselves You know Keeping a good clean diet Not partaking in any questionable behavior Then also of course Having good friends with Families and children themselves And we are on the same page of What is good for children to do What is not good So the social setting Is absolutely everything So make sure If you have friends yourself Ensure that you are on the same page When it comes to raising children So I've said to all of my mates Who will have children Or already have children That no sugar whatsoever Because it's bad Same thing when they get older You're not supposed to spend time with These individuals for example If it comes to a stage When a school starts doing Questionable things You know indoctrination of I'm wholesome values I will go into the school and talk to the teachers Maybe I can get with me some other fathers To do the same So main point Create a community of like minded men And you're on the same page When it comes to certain things When it comes to your children From FIPS How much muscle did you gain from lifting I don't exactly know 15 kilos Or something like that From my man Eschanu Do you think somatotypes are real Mesomorph, ectomorph, endomorphs And if so which one do you think you are They are real to a certain extent But it's not something I think anyone should Dwell upon You know you have lanky guys You have stocky guys You have athletic guys And everything in between I don't think it's useful to To Identify as anything Because the rules of lifting Is the same anyway You need to get your bench press up You need to get your military press up You need to get stronger in your deadlift You need to eat enough to ensure progression So it doesn't really matter what sort of Somatotype you are The rules of lifting and gaining muscle Are the same anyway Whomever you are From Gregor There is low reps for strength And higher reps for hypertrophy At least for most people In what rep range do you train For mass gain For myself and for clients And as a right and dauntless as well You know you should do both You should train both in the lower rep range And in the higher So I usually split So I have one day for clients This is one day is heavier So bench press for repetitions For sets Then the other day Bench press for sets of Ten repetitions for example So you work the progression In both ends of the Of the rep range So I would say for optimal muscle mass For a natural at least You should train both in the lower And the higher rep range From Spencer How active are you in a given day And what do you eat to maintain a body With such legality Så At the moment I am training for Maybe 45 minutes Then I go for a Power walk in the forest Listening to some podcasts I am trying to train quite hard now Not only for aesthetics But also for the highest And greatest purpose Which I will elaborate on later on But I am trying to optimize my health As much as possible both in terms of training In terms of nutrition In regards to the nutrition It is I will make some sort of more Full day of eating videos For the physique manufacturer So it's easier to show than to tell So stay tuned for that Then from David again What supplements do you use Creatine, magnesium, zinc etc I will make a separate video on this Later on Sink, magnesium Every once in a while Creatine every day Fish, oil and vitamin D Depending on the weather And of course summer So I don't take vitamin D Then I also experimented a bit with glycine Which is some good stuff Amino acids also before training But I will make a separate video on it later on From Dylan Thoughts on animal stacks I've heard from many that it's a sort of legal How well did they work I have no idea about it So I can't really comment I will have to read up on it It's not something I've ever used So I don't know Moving on to subscribe star From boom golden one As someone who treasures tradition What is your opinion about the revival Of the beautiful traditional latin mass That is happening in Poland Italy, Slovakia, France, US etc Again To betray my ignorance I have never attended one So I can't really say All too much about it But if it's beautiful and if it inspires greatness I suppose it's a good thing But yeah I can't really say too much From Greg How has the free sweden project Been getting on during the COVID-19 Well we can't have Gatherings over With more than 50 people So we haven't really had any good Events but the renovation Of the house is going Absolutely brilliantly Massive shout out and salute To everyone who is working on it So the organization is going Full steam ahead But in terms of events etc We haven't really had any But I'm looking forward to When the COVID is over So we can get back to having good events It will be really fun Always nice to be there And still figuring out my career What is your take on What is a good option To keep oneself economically afloat Either long term or short term Is entrepreneurship working for Is entrepreneurship working For a company or freelance Any options you recommend Too hard to say It depends on where you are in life It depends on if you have any special Quality that might Lend itself well to being But otherwise For a younger guy It might be good to get an employment And then you have a side hustle Or use the time you Are not working for someone else To develop something That you might turn into a career yourself But staying afloat You of course need Maybe some sort of employment At first While you develop your side business From the daytion After the army I went straight into university Actually Army ended in december And in january I started my first course Final question from my man Bryce I'm having a son in a couple of months And it tips for couples on remaining patient With each other First of foremost massive congratulations Highly joyous to hear In regards to advice on staying patient That it will be a trying period And if you actively think of Staying more patient Especially if you have a poor sleep You tend to be a bit more on edge etc But if you practice some stoicism And actively tell yourself That no it's extra important That I'm extra patient With my wife Because she has probably slept even poorer Than I have and it's not easy for her Because she will probably be a lot more stressed Than you are because you know how women are And you know You try to be extra supportive And keeping those things in mind Will probably make it easier For you to be a bit more Helpful, a bit more patient As well So practice some stoicism I'm sure all will turn out well So those were all the questions I hope they were good answers In retrospect I probably should have Just picked a few questions And given more precise answers But I hope it was a good video anyway So thank you for your support And thank you for watching XXO Boom!


OTAN, Outreach and Technical Assistance Network. Thank you for joining us, everybody, everybody here. So what we're gonna do is talk about our pilot program and some of the success stories and what some of you guys did during the program and how you were successful and what you did differently. We've also got some student success stories as well. So what we'll do is we'll start with Rachel, who's with us at New Readers Press. So she's gonna do a quick overview of what we're talking about with New Readers Press Online and what it is. And then we'll go to Dr. Baller and then we'll go to Dr. Gonzalez. And then we're gonna kind of make it like a free-form discussion. So we've got some questions up. And then if anybody here or if online has questions and Kaby, where are you from? I am one of your friends from Mount Diablo Adult Education. We're in Concord, California. Mount Diablo, yes. Yeah, hi. We love Mount Diablo. Oh, I know where that is. You guys have snow? Yes. Of course you do. Oh my gosh. Yes, it's gorgeous. Yeah. Do you guys have sun? It's super sunny here today. It's a good day today. Yeah, it's beautiful here today. The sun is shining. It's pretty cold, but beautiful views.  So it's a nice change. Yeah, we've got some beautiful snow-capped mountains here today. So, okay, cool. We've got some more people joining and as we go, we'll just keep it blowing. So I'll turn it over to Rachel. You can share your screen. As people join, we'll just keep going. All right, can you see my screen okay? Yep. Yes. Great. So this is New Readers Press Online Learning. I'm just going to very quickly show you what we have to offer currently and what this program entails. So at the top here, I'm going to do a quick dropdown to show you that we have GED courses in all four subjects, high-set courses in all four subjects, pre-HSC courses in all four subjects, as well as TABE courses now in levels EMD and A for reading, language, and math. So lots and lots of content available. I'm just going to jump into the platform because when you get into the platform, what you'll notice is that it's the same for every course. It has the same format. So it's really easy to use one or the other depending on what you have able to share with you because she's using many of these courses, how easy it is to navigate once you kind of know how to navigate it the first time, how easy it is to navigate the other courses. This is what the course itself looks like. So for our adult ed learners, it's very user-friendly. They can set up a course calendar that allows them to sort of make their own personal plan where they can follow their knowledgeable points and their progress at the top. There's a full introduction in the course that allows them to learn how to use the platform first and then they have a full structured plan that starts with the introduction and a pretest. You could take that pretest and design a specific curriculum for the student or you can let them work through the full structured plan. So as you can see, students work through each unit, has lessons, each lesson is incorporated typically with three components, a lesson, vocabulary flashcards, and then practice questions. At the end of each unit, there's a unit review. So this is very, very similar to many of the New Readers Press print products that you might be using. If you use our pre-HSE course skills books or our Highset or GED skills books, those are also very similar. There's a unit review test. And within each of the lessons, there's built-in tools. I'll just kind of show you a little bit of content here as an example. There are some videos built into the content. There's a toolbox in our mathematics courses that includes calculator, formula, periodic table, formula sheet. All of this is built right into the platform to make it very easy for students to use. If you're working on those college and career readiness skills, there's a highlighter. There's bookmarking and there's a note section where they can type in their own notes so they can take notes as they're learning. You may notice there's a little audio component here in our lower-level courses that allows you to have the program read aloud. Rounding numbers. The round means to change a number to a certain place value so that it is easier to work. You'll also notice we can switch that to gradual. I hear Eva chuckling. With. Click the image to watch a video about what a round number is, why round numbers are used and how we use place values to round numbers. Hope everyone can hear that okay where you are. The other big component within online learning is that we had this confidence level rating. Now this is great if you're using it really explicitly because the student is self-evaluating using that metacognition and saying, how do I feel about the content I just learned as they mark confidence levels that information is tracked and it's available for them to see for themselves so they can identify where they have low confidence levels but it's also available on the teacher's side so you can actually identify the lowest confidence levels with certain things in your class or with an individual. The flashcards are super simple. They've got just like what you make at home except that they're technologically advanced. Yes, no or kind of as your answers, students can review as they respond. That's also tracked. And so each question that they respond to it's going to keep track of their responses. You can even create your own. That's absolutely cool. Within this, so if you do reading circles and you want to include your own vocabulary words for that text that you're using, you can actually build your own sets in here. There are even community sets that are available. So if you decide to share something you might find a community set in one of our courses as well that someone else has built that you can use. I made one with Klingon, which was fun. The practice questions are much like small quizzes. So you're quickly able to see how the student is performing on those units and individual lessons. You can quickly see their scores throughout the entire program. And then tests are the same way where you can get pretty detailed information. We're working on really improving our reporting dashboard. I'm excited for the upcoming changes that will be happening, but you can keep track of how a student is performing on each individual test. And it shows a way for you to review not just how they're performing and what they have right or wrong, but also where that falls so that you can remediate and put them back into the units and lessons that they might need to review. The other favorite feature I live in here is a search feature. So if I wanted to look for something specific, like ratios, if I'm teaching and I know that's my subject matter, I can search for something and quickly find a lesson and a unit that coordinates with my own curriculum and class. So just to share overview, quick overview, hope that helps. That's great, thank you. You're welcome. Any questions so far for Rachel? Or we move to the next? Cassie? I have a question. Yes. Rachel, when you're looking at this screen, is this the student screen or the instructor screen? This is all the student screen, but every instructor has access to a study dashboard, which is the student screen. So it's kind of like having a teacher edition of the student courses. So you can even build lesson plans in which I personally have done that for myself. I've gone in and when I was teaching, I would literally go into this lesson and I would use this note section to say, hey, number one, we're gonna do this activity. And then number two, this is the PDF that I'm including for this or I might link to a video or a website that I want to go through with my students so they can have some interactive online work. And so that's totally, you can use this in a different way for yourself, but this is exactly what it looks like for the students as well. Okay, thank you. Sure, great message. Okay, let's move over to Dr. Baller. You wanna share your screen or if you wanna... Well, let me talk a little bit first maybe. So we're in adult school, I think probably pretty typical in the sense that we have students, at least for the purpose of this conversation, who come in with the goal of finishing high school. And they usually come in and say, I wanna take the GED that is kind of the default. And then it's on us to counsel them around if that's actually a likely goal within the next 20 years or so, or are they better off for us to look at their transcript that they already have from high school, identify the gaps in credits that they have. And we are actually still teaching real classes. So we're, we have teachers in classrooms that teach US history one or that teach algebra. And so the first reason why I actually got involved with this was we had the core skills booklets when booklets made sense. And then the pandemic came around and having paper materials made no more sense. And that kind of coincided either with you guys developing this or me becoming aware of it. But that's when I realized that all these materials actually exist online and that was stunning. And then we've kind of bought into this hook line and sinker in the sense that the same long list that Rachel just showed you, we basically shelling out for all of these courses as well. We don't have the GED, I just realized that. But the point is that I have such flexibility with this material to serve a huge range of students and their learning needs. People who coming in with really, really low skills, I mean, true ABE, adult basic education level, they are served with the tape, the early tape materials. Students that come with kind of medium level end of ABE beginning of high school do really well with the PhSE materials until they move into true high school materials which are represented to us with either the upper tapes or then the high set and the GED materials. So that's a stunning range. And what Rachel was saying earlier is once they learn the system, all these pages are built the same way. So I've actually decided early on that I don't know about your students, but when there's something called, let me just click on it, when there's something called an introduction to the course, right, students will skip that unless you make them actually go through it. So course outline, what is flashcards? No students, no self-respecting student would do this unless you make them. And so we filled slide decks to go with this where we're forcing students to engage with these pages. So that was our initial reaction to students basically just going to the practice questions right from the start, not even reading and not taking advantage of all the built-in materials that Rachel was just showing off. So we made these accompanying slide decks where we're forcing students to react and we're also building in some other materials just for more practice. We kind of have moved away from that as the site got more advanced, I feel. So we're not doing that as much anymore but it was really, really helpful in the beginning. And to force students, I love my students so this sounds worse than it is, but to force students to try out the highlighter function, to comment back, did I use this? How do I use my flashcards and have guided practice around the study skills? That is a really rich material to guide that conversation. And for my adult learners, that is a very necessary thing to do. And I'll compare it with other, I don't know if you've heard of I Excel or other things that are con, that are, they go straight to the content. There's not a lot of conversation around how do I access content? How do I learn? How do I study? How do I remember something? And my adult learners don't come with those skills. I don't know about other people but that is executive functioning and study skills is not a strong suit of most people that come in. So the other way we're using this now, so there's two, I would say two basic ways we're using it as a standalone material and as a component of courses that we're writing. And it serves both purposes. So it's a very well done self-contained material like Rachel was just walking people through and it's leveled in the sense that if somebody did pre-HSE math and now they're ready, they showed us with the post test, they're ready, now they can go into the, let's say the high set math so they can go into the tape D. It's also really cool, I have to say as a building block material and I thought I was gonna focus on that more. So we're using Canvas as an LMS at our school and I've built many a course with the materials out of New Readers Press. I was gonna show you a range in the sense that our local community college is Berkeley City College and we've developed both a math and an English course that is the transition course to the community college. So we did an articulation pilot with them and we're back designed our ultimate courses in English and math to be curriculally aligned with the first course that our students are typically placed in. And it just so happens that in math, that's a statistics course that our students get placed in because that's kind of the beginning math course at BCC. And so we built a course that that includes all the statistics, data representation, probability components from the New Readers Press materials. And it's, I probably find it very cool but I'm a curriculum instruction geek so that's better to everybody else. But I'll just show you and I'm not gonna click on it on the shelf. I just want to show you how we did this. So we take advantage of, so this starts early, early, early, right? So let me see if I can get my annotation going on here. So this is the lowest ABE level you can think of but the way California writes its framework there's statistics and probability in the kindergarten level, right? So you can find second grade materials or the equivalent to second grade materials that have measurement and data in them, for example. So we assign the tape E2 entire data unit. That's one of the units. So I don't assign the whole tape E2 in this case because I'm focusing on one specific strand within. So that's my really, really low people. They're already doing work here. I should probably delete my little markers. Then similarly, they're moving up the levels then I'm assigning the M2, the tape M2 and pull out those two units. And we're always deepening the practice opportunities with we have a license for my Excel where there's just a hundred more ways to practice with line plots if someone needs it after they've gone through the unit on new readers press. So this is a mix and match. Then we're moving up to D2. It's gonna get more serious. There's a statistics unit in the D2. Then we've made it to algebra level. So now we're deep into actually credit bearing high school level work. And then probably my favorite is that there are summative assessments already built in that are standard aligned because the tape is standard aligned and that are true to life summative assessments for these components. So that's the use that we do for the math course and for my English capstone course, we're doing a similar model. So the community college tells us that writing an argumentative essay is the English skill that our students need to have when they come. And we're using different materials but there's a good chunk in the new readers press that is really, really useful for this. So I meant to scroll without making you dizzy. So unit one starts with really simple you know, writing, topping sentences and all of that. And then I can literally pull assignments that make sense to deepen that work and to give them the beautiful sequence of guided practice and independent practice that is built into each of these units. And then I'm gonna make you dizzy a little bit. So this goes on for a while. Close your eyes and try to make it to the end.  Grammar mechanics that just provides them not just with practice but with explanations which is really nice. And then there are in the high sets reading and writing is actually a full high set essay that you can assign that has scoring in it and some comparisons. So that is a beautiful, beautiful thing. This is for our upper end students. This is right before they graduate and go on to college. But I wanted to just show you, I don't know how much time I have but I'll just show you one more course. No, I'll show you two more courses because I can. One is our lowest, really our incoming students that really have a hard time adding three numbers together. And so there's two ABE courses that we build around using NRP as one of our building blocks. And again, I have such a variety of things to choose from here. And we're really using the assessment opportunities here. So we're getting a baseline by giving them the lowest pre-test there is and then we're building the course on top of that. So in this case, they go through the entire course and then they do some extra practice if they needed out of I Excel, we can have a conversation during our panel discussion later why we're doing the I Excel piece. And then at the end, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. There's a lot. We end up using the assessments. So if somebody does really, really well on the pre-test and on the units and the practice questions within NRP I might not even publish the I Excel pieces. I can also be very, very intentional if they struggle with a certain skill I can give them additional practice on a different site. And then there's the post-test and then I have actual quantitative data that says they are finished with this part and I can move them up to the next one. So there's post-test for the tape E1 separate, the E2 separate and then there is a cumulative test that is truly a summative assessment for that level. So that's really, really nice. And then I want to show you one more thing and then I'll let somebody else talk. We've built a bunch of science courses here and that's truly kind of a Frankenstein type of course. This is Earth and Space Science just for kicks. And here I'm pulling together an actual textbook where I've done the old fashioned scan in the textbook and do the activities. There are some I Excel materials and then I'm gonna scroll just because the bottom is more interesting for you here. There are NRP practices very specific to certain topics and that where the search function comes in nicely that Rachel was searching. So I was looking for something specifically about pollution sustainability, renewable energy and conservation. And there's a pretty nice chunk. It's a series of probably five pages within the science course that you can pull out specifically. It's really a building block opportunity and then same for the solar system. So just to, oh, one more thing I wanted to show you because we have students, like I said, who are going the HSE route. So their ultimate goal is to take a high school equivalence intense test, but we also have students that are just filling in holes on their transcripts. And there's a pretty nifty way you can use, I think it's nifty, you can use the new readers press material for that in that the tests are both cumulative for the whole subject. So I picked pre-HSE reading and writing. It doesn't really matter. But there are also individual units that have review tests. So let's say, let's say I'm using, let's say the social studies, right? So our students, if they have a high school transcript, most often have their world history under their belts because they still were there as freshmen. They often have maybe one semester of US history under their belt because when they dropped out of school was junior year. And so our job is to give them the most direct line to those missing credits and not overexpose them to stuff. So they don't need to take the whole high set social studies piece. What they need are specific content materials. So that student I just talked about can seriously skip over unit one. They don't need the credit in world history. They do however need the credit, let's say in history or maybe they need the American government credit. Most of our students don't have American government or economics because they dropped out before senior year. And so then I can do one or two things which Rachel I think alluded to. I can give them that test specifically to that unit. So my student who needs five American government credits can take the review test for unit three. And if they sail through that get 100% life is good. I give them five credits, they move on. I can also then analyze if they don't get a high score which lessons they should review. Maybe they know the branches of government but they don't remember, I don't know the role of the president or something. So I can really tailor to the students need what they need to do because all of our students are on the clock. They wanna get out of here as quickly as possible. And I want to be justified in giving them credit because we've accredited in the same California. So I can just say you're a nice person, usually American government credit but if they can pass the high set section on American government, they're good to go. And we, because we know how important writing is always then build an essay at the end in where they do some sort of a research paper on government in that case. So they don't get their credits just by taking a test but it's such a good clean standard aligned way of knowing if they know what they need to know to be considered a high school graduate in that area. That's it. That's it, wow. That's so pretty, wow. I have a question for you regarding Canvas because K-12 has been doing Canvas for a long time and now it's really coming on strong. How have you guys migrated Canvas? How is that like, can you talk about that a little bit? Well, you should ask, Rachel. So initially we pulled it in as an external URL. Each page in New Readers Press has a standalone web address and so you can drop that into Canvas as the assignment, right? I don't know how much people know about building Canvas but that's an easy way to do it.  Rachel and our instructional technologist and your guys as coders are actually currently working on a more direct integration where New Readers Press will be one of the clickable things of outside, what is that called? Outside platforms that are integrated. Yeah, so it's fully integrated so that you'll be able to actually have the New Readers Press content within Canvas and just quickly select what you want to put it into your module as opposed to copying a URL and bringing it into Canvas and putting it into Canvas as a specific hyperlink. So it's just going to be a much easier way to navigate Canvas and NRP together. Right, so the integrations in Canvas if people have built Canvas courses, if it's integrated, you can literally just click and pick the skill off of the site and it just makes magic and then somehow it appears right there. The advantage of that is that the links are stable because what we first discovered is that as New Readers Press is developing their materials, the links change. And so a student would click on the link that used to go to adding fractions with unlike denominators and it took them to the beginning of the math course or something. Yeah, we had added some audio pieces to the course and it made some small changes that we weren't anticipating. And so now this should be a much more seamless approach and thank you Eva for being the pilot program for us to work out the TI integration because I think it's going to be so beneficial to so many programs. Yeah, and I have to say it's been a pleasure to work with the team because literally they're real life people. I mean, it's really Randy and Rachel.  I feel like, yeah, I texted her this morning. It's not just, oh yeah, we'll give it to our coders. Maybe something will happen. She actually jumped in and she's working with my instructional technologist on fixing this. And that's, I have not experienced with any other program that we have licenses to. So that's pretty awesome. That's cool, thank you for that. Other questions from anyone here or online before we turn it over? Okay, we'll turn it over to Dr. Gonzalez over at Santa Ana College. And I just learned something about them that their department is one of the fastest or is the fastest growing department in the school, which is pretty, so they're doing a lot of them. We get to hear from her and what they've done in their programs. I'll let you share what you've got, Dr. Gonzalez, tell us your stories. I'm going to be formalized. Finishing up that last chapter of my dissertation. I'm at the tail end of this, you guys. Thank you so much. That motivates me, Randy. And I will start off with where Eva, thank you Eva. That was such a great learning experience with your presentation.  I mean, honestly, like we have also dealt with just robotic answers and just, you know, looking and looking for support.  So thank you, thank you for that. And so that leads me to, you know, just being grateful for being part of this pilot. Santa Ana College, we are the non-credit side of the college. We have 20,000 students just on the non-credit side. Alone with our high set program, which is the fastest growing program in the entire college, we have 2,300 students. We grew about 44% during the pandemic. And when everybody was just, you know, trying to just figure out how to get people through the door, let it be just the blessing, you know, the silver lining of the entire situation, but we were having the opposite. Alexis Alevia, who's my co-partner in this, the coordinator of the program, and I just couldn't find enough days in the week or hours in the day just to keep afloat with the workflow and registering students and all the amazing things that come with an increasing program. But with that said, one of the biggest blessings that our department had, and again, our program is just the high set GED. I also oversee the ABE component of it. So what happens with our students is that if, you know, we do offer the high set and GED in English and in Spanish. So we offer both components of the exam. And with our English students, many of them come through the ABE pathway, just like Eva was describing. And our Spanish will come in through the Spanish ABE. We do have a Spanish pathway that leads our students right into our high set GED courses. So to that extent, when, you know, when speaking just the high set GED component of what we do is we have seen a growing, and again, it may be the region, but our growing numbers have primarily been in the Spanish arena. Our English is great. However, you know, we have seen an increase and about 80% of our students are taking the high set in Spanish and our classes are geared in the language that they're taking it. We do have a team of about 20 teachers and we do offer our classes on Canvas. We offer them in-person labs as well. So when it comes to the usage of the software, our students are using it at home as homework or they're using it with the teachers to review materials together as a team. So one of the primary ways that we are using it is in the classroom, the teacher will have access to using these questions as practice questions. So they're reviewing them together and what's something really fun that we all do as a team here is we will project the question on the screen on our Canvas page or even in the classroom on our Elmo and we'll have the students, if they're on Canvas or on Zoom, they'll chat into the discussion, like what their answer is, okay? So we'll say, okay, and the question number one that's read it together, ABCD and then they will type into the chat what their answer is. We have one of our teachers, Mr. Ortiz, who's super tech savvy. He presets his material ahead of time and then he just has the students answer on their Zoom through a quiz. But we do this jointly with the software, something that the students love to do. So especially as we finish a unit, like let's say US government under the social studies exam, we will go on and use specifically those questions because as you guys described, they're very easy to find, they're very easy to access and again, they're formulated, very similar to the exam. So our students love the exercises, they love the interaction, they love the practice and the fact that they're structured so well and so similar to the actual exam. So that's one aspect of how we've been using it. The other aspect is that we do give our students access with their passwords and login and they work from home, okay? So then from home, we will assign homework. We'll say we just finished such section or this is the homework for tonight, go home and work on such unit or such lesson.  So all in all, there was a lapse of time and our students were so disappointed, our teachers were so disappointed. Where's the software we needed? Because there was one teacher who specifically used the software in her classes and she had to go back to using the books which was not her preference. But now we are back on board and everybody is happy. I do have something that I'd like to share. The program is, and you may wonder, how are you using this with your Spanish students? Well, the program is written in English. However, we use the Google extension translator and we can vary easily. And look at the magic of this. I mean, we so easily change the language like in a click of a second.  And you don't even have to just... I apologize, I thought I would jump in and just show how easy it is. Oh, please Rachel, I appreciate any language. Again, if your students are of any other language, background, they can do this and they can do this so easily. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Persian. I mean, you name it. This is such a beauty. All right, Latin, can you do Latin for me? Just for cakes. I think the high set in Latin would be funny. Wouldn't that be phenomenal? And it's just such a gift, you guys. Like, yes, we do use the New Readers Press high set GED series and they're wonderful. We love them. They're such great books. However, especially in the pandemic, this was such a great, you know, saving grace. I did my math, I'm not a math person, but we did graduate 33% more students the year that we were using this. And so again, we're back on the bandwagon. We're using it again and we're just, we couldn't be more excited. I do have a testimonial of like three, two minutes. It's Sochi Rodriguez. She's one of our Spanish students. It is in Spanish. You know, I'm happy to present it to you guys. However, I can simply summarize what she says and that is that she loved using the software. She used it in preparation of her math exam. She passed that math exam with the help of the software and using it both home and with her teachers. And she was getting ready to take her reading test. And I am so happy to report to you guys that she took it yesterday. She came back to me today, she goes, maestra. She goes, I felt so comfortable taking my reading test yesterday. Cross your fingers that I passed it. I should hear, you know, quick, you know, soon from it. This is a lady who has struggled with the reading test. She, this is her third time taking it. First time using the software. So she just felt a world of a difference. So I'm happy. And I just had that conversation with her this morning. I'm happy to present her testimonial. But, and it's in Spanish, but I'm also just happy to summarize what she had to share. That's awesome. Quick question, Dr. Valdes. You said that you had a 33% higher graduation rate and this was during the pandemic. Yes, ma'am. That is just incredible. Just, it's awesome.  And she was just like, how in the world are you doing this? You know, and she's struggling just to get numbers for just general classes and you're doing this for the high set. How did we do this? Social media, word of mouth. I came out on, on, on local radio stations announcing our programs and, and just reaching out to the community is what made all the world of a difference. And, and we were just, we had students as North, as San Francisco and as South, as San Diego. And again, our school can service anybody over the age of 18, so long as they're California resident with an address, with an address in California, which is I'm sure the case for also, you know, Berkeley and other community colleges. But yes, you know, it was a real surprise to us. And, and we were just like amazed by the, by the results, but we couldn't have done it without the software, honestly. Dr. Gonzalez, I would strongly recommend that, you know, they're, and, and Randy, you guys can do this too, but having some kind of white paper or write up on this. I didn't, I didn't tell her to say that. Honestly, because the California Department of Education needs to understand the value of this and help the agencies in me and the courage agencies to understand the value of using these online tools, because it does make such a difference. And I'm, you know, you, what you've done is just incredible within the situation that we've been dealing with, with the pandemic. It's just amazing. And I really want you to get the recognition for what you have done and what New Media's Press has provided and the support that they've provided because nobody else is getting this done. So you're going to be pretty famous, you know. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yes, no, you know, again, it's, it's, it's a team effort, you know, and, and I just feel like in a weird way, all the pieces kind of came together and at the point where we were most distressed.  But, but again, you know, it was just, I guess it just, you know, it was a, it just all came together at the end. And honestly, working from home, students had access to yet another skill, another, another, another, what is it, another tool at their disposal. So, you know, I think it speaks volumes. Right. Eva, did you? Yeah, I just had a question. Are your numbers steady now, or did they go back down? You know, it's a, it's a really good question.  That's the experience we had too. We had, we actually had an influx in student, in certain students too. Our ESL program had a big influx and our ABE student program had a big influx, but those are in central workers. And when they had to go back to work, all of a sudden we lost them again. We had the latest data point that we just pulled, which is we're in the middle of a self study for, for re-accreditation.  And what we found was that women who checked Arabic as their dominant language, the increase in enrollment participation and persistence during the lockdown and online mostly instruction was through the roof for this subgroup.  And we're right now struggling to come up with programmatic changes to get these, to get that group a meaningful experience of education. They will not come to school for a million different reasons, but they're clearly interested in working towards, you know, attaining higher educational levels. So anybody, any ideas? But basically that was the most astounding of all data points that we saw. So specific to the gender and so specific to the home language and remote learning was the answer. I'll tell you Eva, our community, mainly being machista, machismo, I had so many women open up to me during the pandemic and say, thank God, Maestra, for the online classes. Because when my husband, and with all due respect to my own culture, when my husband closes that door to go to work, I open my computer and I log into my classes. So let me go to school and I would never be able to do what I'm doing now if it weren't because the classes are being offered online and you guys have these softwares that I can work from home. Exactly. And they're doing this conversation when the husband's out to soccer practice and they're having this conversation with me when the husband's not home. Yeah. Exactly. And that I'm documenting in my dissertation because it is a true catastrophe that these women, because of ethnic rigors, let it be one ethnic group or another, do find themselves in these situations, unfortunately. But fortunately to them, there's now these additional tools that they can use, prepare from home, even from their own phone, and be okay and get ahead, something that they've always wanted to do. Wow. Yeah. Isn't that, it just breaks my heart, but it's the reality. We've got, let me stop it for a minute. 10 minutes.  No, it's too long. Oh, okay. Okay, good. I know you've got some of your success stories and before we do that though, I do wanna say, this wouldn't be, we wouldn't be having this right now without OTAN, setting the stage for all this because they led the way to put this all together. And now we're peeling back the onion after the fact. So this is, it's like you said, Adriana, like this was a team effort with everybody coming together, so. Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, we would have never had the funding to even embark on such a discovery had it not been because of the pilot opportunity. Right. And just to reiterate, it's very difficult to find materials that are low level academic and don't look like they're made for second graders. Yes. And they're insulting to adult learners. And we have, like I said, we have licenses for all kinds of different stuff. All of our students say, finally this looks like it's made for me. This is not a little cartoon character running around adding fractions together. This doesn't look, even the video you were showing, it has a grown up talking, right? So if you're looking for materials and they're really hard to come by that are made for low skilled adults, this is a real good place to go. It's respectful, I would say, respectful of the adult learner. And that's really hard to come by. Right. And it's hard to find stuff that's solid to things that the students need to know for the exam. For example, the scientific process, are you kidding me? I've done, I've looked everywhere and the new readers press has such an amazing coverage step by step with practice questions that I just direct my students to that and I say, you need to know this because everything in the science will be scientific experiments. They take that test, they take out those modules or those lessons and they're like, I get it now, teacher. Yeah. We actually built a science course, a two and a half credit science course based on that unit. It's beautiful. So there's one in pre-HSV and one in high set and if you combine them and then you can adjust and supplement with other things but it makes for a very solid pre-science course because like you said, it makes no sense to delve into physics with someone who's still learning about the scientific method and scientific thinking and it's not done like you're six years old and you need to learn this. It's made for people who are adults and have to get the background. So it's, I can't reiterate how important that respect level is. It's really, really, really good. I completely agree with you. Do you wanna play those stories? Oh, sure. Yeah, I'd love to. You guys will meet Sochi. You guys will meet Sochi here. Yeah, I just saw her this morning and she was ecstatic.  You got this. All right, so let's meet Sochi. And granted, I'm happy to then also answer questions after.  Sound. Did you turn on sound? And she's gonna. Is that better? Yeah. Is that better? Okay, I'll start it again. Yeah. All right. Muchas gracias, Sochi, por estar por nosotros el día de hoy. Sochi Rodriguez is one of our, one of her high six students. She's obtaining her high set in Spanish. We're gonna conduct the interview in Spanish and we're, and she's gonna cover a little bit about her experience with the program and also how, how the software has helped her, the new readers press software. Así que gracias, Sochi. Nos puede decir un poquito por qué estás con nosotros en el programa que está sacando tu high set. Primero porque me gusta estudiar y se me hizo muy interesante el high set. Nunca había oído de este programa cuando me empecé a involucrar me gustó y me gustó más que nada porque obtenemos un certificado y es como una meta que nos, bueno que me forso, me forso yo para, para sacar el certificado más que nada. Exactamente, muy bien. Y tú fuiste es una de nuestras muchas estudiantes que usaste ser software, ¿verdad? Nos puedes dar un poquito sobre tus impresiones de the new readers press software y ¿Cómo es que te ayudo? This is what she talks about how about software. Nos comentaron en una clase, creo que fue en de matemáticas, que usáramos ese, nos dieron ese privilegio de mandarnos el software y me gustó mucho porque te da la idea de las preguntas para el examen. Este, y vas identificando paso a paso y si te ayuda mucho el, el estar participando en ese programa y pues mucho lo hacemos, no nada más yo hay varias personas que lo hacen, pero sí me ayuda mucho y ahorita estoy en eso de volverlo a intentar con el de lectura porque me ayudó en matemáticas para el examen y voy a volverlo a intentar con el de lectura. Perfecto. ¿Y cuáles son tus futuros planes con tu high-set? Ya que lo hayas obtenido. Mi, esa es una buena pregunta mi, mis planes va a ser continuar y continuar con lo que yo estudió anteriormente. Este me va a dar como una, un soporte para continuar estudiando y querer estudiar psicología o sociología. En el colegio. Bien la universidad. Primeramente Dios. Excelente pues muchas gracias Sochi. And that is my interview with Sochi. In the interview she shares how the software helped her pass her math test as mentioned, how she's now using it to retake her reading exam which she just took yesterday ironically enough it's just all happening again with the timing and how she and other students in her classroom benefited tremendously and she just calls it such she calls it a gift un regalo like how she was able to receive a password and a username from her instructor to be able to do this from home and her dream is to become a psychologist or sociology major in the near future at the college. So there you have it you guys. Thank you for allowing me. It's such a, it's such an honor to share a little bit about our students who we endlessly and just worked so hard for. I appreciate the opportunity to share her story with you all. Thank you. We love this. Thank you, yeah. This is why we're at UPS and it comes with you guys and everybody here that makes this happen. So thank you and if there's questions we'll kind of knock it up with some questions. Anybody here or online have some questions before we we call it, any questions? I need the wheel so I can spin the wheel to ask. Okay, Kathy, you're on. It's you, no, I'm kidding. Oh, look, she turned her camera on right when I said that. But I just want to thank everybody unless you do have a question, Kathy. I didn't need it, you know. No, I just want to say thank you so much everybody for presenting because you really are kind of giving me a different framework. We've just been talking about pulling in that the pre-HSE core content into ours. We use the high set materials and really, really like them. So it's nice to hear how other programs are successful in implementing. Yeah, so we've collected a little bit of data on how long it takes people to get through the high set material and it's becoming very clear. And I think I didn't say that earlier that it's easier to convince a student that they have to start at a lower level than they think. They all want to just get the high set done if you have the level below. So if you have the pre-HSE material that they look the same and they're clearly leading up. If I put the two side by side, it's very clear that one is the earlier version of the later. If the buy-in from the students is much greater and the time it takes them to actually get the high set level completed is shorter. It's a little counterintuitive, but it's true. By going through the pre-HSE materials that are intentionally structured a certain way and have these built-in assessments, it actually prepares them so much better for the high set material that they have less, fewer experiences of frustration and failure and having to do it over and over again. It's much smoother and they pass at a higher rate with less having to repeat. It's pretty astounding actually. Well, I'm not, it's not. We know as educators why this is happening. But to students, it's so much cleaner if the material teaches them the foundational levels than us looking at them struggling with a high set lesson and then having to do all the backtracking ourselves. Does that make sense? So it's psychologically it's better for them. And from just an efficiency standpoint, the data are showing, at least in all case, that they get through faster and with a higher success rate. I'd love to see that data, Ava. If you wouldn't mind sharing with me at some point, I would love to. Okay, truth be told, the sample size is at this point so small that I'm not gonna share this. Okay, okay, fair enough. Both students, no. Just let it, CCAE, you guys will present your data for the next conference, so. There you go. Yeah. So more than that. All right, well, thank you everybody. Thanks our speakers. We appreciate you and to OTAN and to Trula Vista Adult School. So we're signing. Thanks for joining us. Thanks to you guys. Bye. Thank you. Thank you.