I came to Tacoma, Oregon in the early 70s. I had been living in the Bay Area in California in San Francisco. There was a massive march in Golden Gate Park to try and stop the war in Vietnam. And there were over a million people and it was an amazing demonstration. And as a result, nothing happened. Nothing changed. The war was endless. It went on and on. It was immoral. People were being killed on all sides. And I decided I had had enough. Even though I had been born and raised in California, I decided I wanted to leave the country. So I started hitchhiking at first and then I got an older pickup from my grandfather. And I started going north and came to the California, Oregon border.  And as we talked along the way, he said there's this great little community in Southern Oregon. You should really, not only can you drop me off there, but you might enjoy visiting that place on your way to Canada. So I said okay, well that sounds interesting. And so we went to Cave Junction and then went west from there out the Caves Highway onto a little side road towards Tacoma. And the last few miles of the road were not paved. It was a dirt road. We came to this little tiny community. It was more of a farming community. And there was a general store there and a gas pump. And I let my hitchhiking friend off there. And then I went down onto the riverbed and camped out along there. There was a whole community of people, probably I'm guessing about 200 people, of folks who had come from all over the Pacific Northwest and beyond. And there was a large swimming hole there and people sort of congregated there. And there was this whole little strip of cabins that the person who owned the land allowed anyone to live. You could purchase the cabin or you could, some were handed down from friend to friend. So they were fairly close together and they were not elaborate but they were very unique. Each one had character. And at some point I bought my little cabin for $800 and decided to spend the winter there because it was getting late in the year to travel onto Canada. Soon after that a lot of people in the community started getting really sick. We started turning yellow. Our skin got jaundiced and our pee got dark and people felt terrible. And we knew something was going on. So I went to the local Grants Pass Josephine County Health Department to get medical care. At that time in Cave Junction there were signs in the windows of many of the businesses that said we do not solicit hippie patronage. And you were not, if you were a hippie, usually self-identified or you look different than the general population, people assumed you were a hippie and we could not go into those stores. So when I went to get health care at the county the physician there was not very welcoming and said, you're already sick. There's nothing I can do for you. So I didn't really know what to do. At that point I went back to the community and a number of us were being refused treatment. It became clear that we must have something called hepatitis A which was communicable hepatitis that we had gotten from drinking river water without boiling it. In those days people didn't have water filters and we didn't have the knowledge that so many of us have now about safe camping practices. So we didn't boil our water and we got really sick. At that point when there were over a hundred cases of hepatitis A, the state epidemiologist from Portland came down to visit Tekelma in a mobile van and he and a health care outreach worker went door-to-door and gave us printed information about what's safe, how to drink water from streams and how to boil your water and where to put your outhouses so that they didn't leech into the river. All of that information was new to us and we didn't know. And so that was really helpful. And then he also provided gamma globulin shots for people who had been exposed. And that was very helpful. When he left and went back to Portland, this is where your part comes in from how you got to Tekelma. He was working with Jim at a clinic there and told him about Tekelma and what was happening there. Well, I didn't come from an urban environment originally. I was a farming community girl, but it was just a different time then. When we went camping, we drank from the stream and we didn't boil water. It's hard to imagine now that so much has changed, but there's just much more information available for people who are camping. I think when you drop out and there's no internet then, you're off the grid. You're on your own. You're figuring it out on your own. You're not sure who to trust. And so I think a lot of things that society has figured out over the years about how you build things, how you keep yourself safe in terms of preventing infectious diseases, etc. Those things are a bit suspended for the community for a while. I think you need to put in context the fact that we can pretty readily go to some resource and say, oh, that's how you do it. But as a community, I think we wanted to figure it out for ourselves because we really weren't trusting the authorities. As Heidi said, people were screaming, this war is unjust and nothing was changing. And you could look at everybody's little piece of the world that they came from with that same basic feeling of I'm dropping out. I'm going to figure this out on my own and mistakes were made. And I read two of the impacts, and this was new to me, the impact that something like the Whole Earth Catalog and I'm missing it now, the Firestone Fire. What is it? Firestein Theater? No. The Firefox. That wasn't so big in our area. The Whole Earth Catalog was the merc manual, the merc veterinary animal veterinary stuff was really popular. We didn't trust the powers that be. They hadn't steered us in a good direction. So as I was into Kilma, I was surrounded by people who had given up on our country, given up on the politicians. And as Jim said, didn't know who to trust. So we decided we'll create our own society based on love and peace and harmony. And perhaps a little naive, but we felt like we couldn't mess it up more than it had already been messed up. And our parents ascribed in many ways to those beliefs, not to the beliefs that we had, but to the beliefs of the government. And there was a huge rift between parents and children then. So a lot of the adult children that were into Kilma had somewhat separated from their parents. And they were out to establish their own social mores. As a result of the sickness that had happened into Kilma, we decided we needed to educate ourselves about how to take care of our bodies and how to prevent illness. So we started having community meetings and talking about how can, since we can't get medical care in town, how are we going to care for ourselves? And about that time, we indirectly interfaced with Jim via the state epidemiologist. And he came down to Kilma for a community meeting with us. And do you want to talk about how it was from your perspective? Any time. Okay, go ahead. That's okay. It was a psychiatry internship. So my journey was upper middle class, east coast. I kind of had my life all figured out as going to be a psychiatrist. And I eventually ended up on the west coast because it seemed more loose and relaxed and exciting than what I was used to. I was also very frustrated with the war. I was a conscientious objector. Well, I was repeatedly deferred and eventually became, you know, got my CO. But also, I was prepared to do whatever, go to Canada, whatever I had to do to not be a participant in the war. And I probably hadn't ingratiated myself to any of my professors in medical school. I was finding traditional medicine had a lot of flaws and didn't seem to have a direction that I was comfortable with. At any rate, I took a year off, kind of suspended my career, came to Portland and was doing odd medical jobs and kind of finding myself. So one of those jobs was working at the sexually transmitted disease clinic in Multnomah County in Portland. And one of the people I worked with had just come back from this visit to Kilma. And he said, you know, you keep talking about how healthcare ought to be different. This community wants to create, you know, its own clinic. You've got some free time. You ought to go down and check them out, which I did. Came down with Mike Garnier who was a medic in the Green Berets in Vietnam who now was working at a free clinic in Portland along with me. I was also working at that clinic. And so the two of us came down to check it out. We met with Heidi and others in a big circle into Kilma and they kind of, you know, we kind of talked about what they wanted, which was an appropriate part of the self-sufficiency movement, right? It's like, we're going to drop out. We're going to build our own houses. We're going to create a, you know, society for ourselves. Where's healthcare? You know, what are we going to do for healthcare? So it sounded exciting to me.  But I said I'd come down and if they could get a building and find some, you know, volunteers.  And a place for me to live. I'd come down and, you know, for the months remaining between early spring and when I started my residency in June. No, no. It was February that you came and you were going to go in the fall. Okay. February to fall. It was a short term. Sure, a period of time. Six months maybe. Yeah. And so in fact, got an old farmhouse on the main road.  Some docs in the community, you know, donated their exam tables. And, you know, one of the things that was happening, we're talking 1973, right? The war is still going on. That sense that something's really rotten here was pretty permeated a lot of people. I mean, not everybody dropped out. But a lot of the medical folks that I interfaced with kind of, you know, had a kind of a grudging respect for people that chose a different path. So one of the things they could do is give us stuff. So we got, you know, medications. We got equipment. You know, we got a lot of stuff was not useful, but some of it was. Enough was useful. Found ourselves with a microscope and some lab equipment. And we discovered there were people in the community that knew how to use it. What became clear immediately is that there was a lot of healthcare, there was a lot of people with healthcare needs who were doing the best they could, which turned out to be extremely inadequate.  At the time, hospitals didn't have birthing rooms. There was only one mode of delivering your baby. They shaved every woman her partner wasn't allowed in. It was very sterile and... On your back, knees up. Yeah. So women said, no, we're not going to do that. Yeah, we're not going to do that. Right.   I mean, it's hard to imagine now because most people will just go to the... First of all, we have the Affordable Care Act. You know, most people are covered. And back then, if you didn't have private insurance, which nobody had, it meant you weren't covered, you know. Few people were, but most people weren't. And so, aside from the fact that you don't really trust the healthcare system, you really have no way to pay for your healthcare. When people did come, they were pretty sick. So here we are with this ragtag clinic of, you know, folks that are kind of building it while we're flying it with whatever equipment we happen to have. And we're seeing, you know, serious medical situations. And we also, as a community, wanted to learn about how our bodies worked. So what we did was we started with the assumption that smart people who are altruistic can learn a tremendous amount, right? And that licensing is nice. But, you know, if that's not what you don't... If that's what you don't have, then perhaps we should train ourselves up. It's kind of like the concept of the barefoot doctors in China, which turn out to not be entirely as we believed it to be. But the concept was that the local people are trained to the best of their ability to take care of themselves and their neighbors. We worked on that principle. So we did a lot of education. We would meet after every clinic and talk about what we saw. We'd have community classes every week and talk about organ systems. What is the heart and how does it work? What are the lungs? You know, some people could be, you know, kind of informed about how their bodies work. It became pretty clear that a man who was moderately trained is probably not the best person to do women's health care. And so we took the expertise we had. We had Sudha, who had done births out of hospital birth. Everybody who lived at Duda had Da as their last name. So this was Sudha. There was Lu Da and Dug Da. Anyway, so Sudha, you know, had been a lay midwife in Santa Barbara. And so immediately she was the expertise that I was looking for. And you know, I knew how to start an IV. I knew about medications. I had access to medical books. I had access to consultants. And Sue had the actual, you know, in-the-weeds experience. And then we found other women like Heidi and others who wanted to learn these skills and be a part. So we fairly quickly developed a midwifery team and eventually ended up with a number of midwifery teams comprised of an experienced midwife, one or two training midwives, and myself to the extent that I needed to participate. And that's how we did our prenatal visits going forward and that's how we did our births. Eventually we got a birthmobile, which was this. Were there a lot of babies? A lot of babies. A lot of babies. What does that mean? What does that mean? Well, first of all, once we established the clinic in Tekelma, Tekelma was just one of many communities, right? You got people in Wolf Creek and Selma and Sunny Ridge. And the Meadows. And not to mention other, you know, all over the place. So now we have a counterculture clinic which is saying you pay what you can. You can be participatory in your healthcare.  You know, so people came to us and it became pretty clear that the phenomena we saw in Tekelma was happening all over southern Oregon for sure. And so we found ourselves traveling around the region. So we had, and that's the reason we had created multiple midwife teams. Because midwife team A, with all of its equipment, could be at a birth down by the river. And then somebody in Selma is now going into labor. And we need a midwife team B, right?  And that's the one that gets the birthmobile. And then I'm kind of going back and forth as needed, right? We got radios. No cell phones then. We didn't have individual phones. We had a party line for a clinic. It was called a ring down. We had one of the few phones in town. It was a ring down. And so you'd get a specialized ring and pick it up. And once I answered, and it was this man saying, my partner's having a baby. We're in the woods and there's this big bubble coming out. And I don't know what to do. And so I tried to instruct. Probably somebody else in the party line said, well, here's what I think. So that experience is what brought us to having regular prenatal visits. We had a prenatal clinic that met every Wednesday. And people from the whole region would come for prenatal care. We also started interfacing with the farming community there. Some of the older people who couldn't get medical care started coming. We had many pretty sick patients who couldn't get care other places. It was not just, it very quickly was not just a hippie clinic. I mean, if you can imagine, first of all, there was very little health care. I mean, between Crescent City and Grant's Pass, a 90-mile stretch, there was one other health care provider who'd been there forever. And he eventually retired as well. So there wasn't a lot of health care available. We charged people what they could afford, which was often a chicken or eggs. Got a lot of eggs. Nothing. So yes, so we saw a lot of local people. And so it was a real interesting place to mingle in the waiting room with hippies from far and wide and just the folks that had grew up and were living in Cape Junction. Right, right. It was a real bridging experience. So the births. We had a radio in the birthmobile. All of the midwives had radios. I had a radio. And so the way we worked it is somebody always was at the clinic. We created what we called an on-call system. And you can think of it as a prepaid health plan, okay? So you're living at the Kilmer with your family.  You keep the wood stove going and you answer the phone. And you stay sober. And you are the communication hub for the whole community for that night. And then if somebody calls and says, or comes to the clinic, you can radio me if it's a medical situation that I'm going to have to deal with or me and the midwives or whatever if there's a birth. But it must have been more than just health care at that point because you created a structure, an organization, a communication mechanism. It was more than just health care. The clinic became the community center. Right, so if there was a meeting, something was happening, we all needed to come together. We would come together in the waiting room of the clinic. That's right. There was a tree planting collective green side up. They would have their meetings there. There was a community, Tequila Community Association, that we bought an old house. After the clinic had been going for about a year or two, one of the old farmhouses in the community came up for sale and we were able to buy it by pooling all our money. So the clinic started working out. Then we built onto it an example of the integration of the clinic. There was an ongoing friction between the establishment of the county and the hippies, as you might imagine. Sanitation rules and housing. So housing was a big one. People wanted to build their own houses. They weren't planning to sell it or rent it, but they also weren't planning to get a building permit and get a septic tank and blah, blah, blah. That was a source of friction with the folks who were responsible for that, the building departments. If a group of unrelated people wanted to live on a piece of property, there's no zoning for that. So a commune, by definition, is a zoning violation. So those issues kept kind of coming up, but no individual had the clout really to take on city government. So the clinic... County government. County government. So the clinic built this addition and we purposely did not... We built it to code, but we did not ask... We did not get the permits to do it. So the county then came in and red-tagged the clinic, which is this important resource for more than just Tacoma for the whole southern part of the county. So we were pretty sure they weren't going to shut us down, but we used kind of that phenomenon as a way to kind of make a statement, which phase could it just back off? And start a conversation about reasonable ways to interface with people rather than adversarial, coming to meet us and have a discussion about what the codes were and how we could comply with them rather than a really strict punitive... It really changed the tenor of the conversations that we had with county government. So we could use the fact that the clinic was important and that we were all connected to it as a way to foster those connections. So to your point, the clinic was more than just a clinic in that respect. You keep down... We're introduced in February. Right. And it must have been kind of like an explosive. Intellectually and emotionally explosive. It wasn't yet. It wasn't yet. It was an interesting phenomenon. Oh, I'll do this. I had no real roots at that moment in time. I was rootless, you know, fortuitously. And so it was easy to come down. And then I started living in the clinic. So one of the waiting rooms was like my bedroom. And so I was always there, always present, always on call. And, you know, kind of segue to how that changed. But it wasn't until I had to make a decision. Months into this, I had to decide, am I going to go back, get back on the train, back on the track, I can see where it's going. That's all nice and comfortable.  You know, my parents will be happy, I'm happy. When I get off that train, I have no clue what's happening.  It was ego-dissentonic. It was not anything that I was prepared for. And it was a little crazy-making for a while. And I have absolutely no regrets about having made that decision. But it was scary. It was jumping off the deep end. It was, you know, it was trusting that this is going to turn out okay. And so a question you asked at the very beginning was, you know, was it lasting? You know, the lessons learned from that lifestyle? That was probably, that was the most consequential thing I feel as if I had done in my life up to that point. And the consequences of that decision were absolutely lasting in terms of kind of how I viewed other decisions in my life. Well, both of us started our conversations about the war. And I feel as if when something is so wrong, it kind of frees you up. It's like ripping babies from their mothers at the border. It's like you go, this is so fundamentally wrong. You know, some woman hikes up the Statue of Liberty to protest. I mean, anyway, my point is that... We weren't the only ones doing this. It was what we later discovered is there was a national movement. Hippies were one sign of it, but we weren't the only ones saying, this has gone too far. We can't live with this system the way it is. And it frees you up to try to make something different. But you sort of have to remove yourself from the main culture to figure out what you want to be different. So that kind of segues into the commune, which is... So Heidi was living on the riverbed in a collection of cabins. I'm living in the clinic. And what became pretty clear to me is that some of the movers and shakers of this community were all living in a place called Magic Forest Farm. And Magic Forest Farm people wanted the clinic to be successful and started coming and showing up and being integral to the formation of the clinic. They were in the beginning. And then Heidi and I met each other at this very first birth in a school bus. You know, my first day on the job, so to speak. And so, you know, she started hanging around the clinic. We kind of circled each other and, you know, we became a couple. And then it really, you know, living at your place was okay, but living at the clinic wasn't going to work. And so we started to stay at Magic Forest Farm, which was a commune that at that point was about five years old, had a lot of strong personalities. And kind of looking back, now we're getting to the beyond us part, looking back at other communes, it seems like they had personalities based upon what brought them together. You know, the funky egg, you know, where Robert was was one kind of way of doing it. Duda was another. And Magic Forest Farm was a, this is my perception and you see what you think, but it seemed more politically purposeful. That is, we have some political beliefs, you know, kind of a socialist fundamental view of how the world ought to be. And we kind of set ourselves up where we're sharing almost everything, right?  And it wasn't for everybody, but it was a group of well educated or not. But folks, I would say the principles of what made the farm work was working hard for the common good and kind of buying into the basic, you know, collectivist kind of principles. What about finances? How do people know that it was time for them to go that they didn't fit in? Those are all very easy questions. So this also kind of relates to your point about freedom. Hard to be free if you don't have any money. I had the freedom to do what I wanted to do because my parents had enough money that I wasn't sandal with phenomenal debt when I left medical school. Thank you very much, Mom and Dad, right? And so we had at least one person living at the farm when we got there who had a, I don't know, a legacy stipend of some sort, some money that freed her up and she gave that money to the farm. So we had that money. We had jobs people did. We lived on very little.  I mean, we had goats and we had cows. You know, we had chickens and we tried our best to repair our vehicles when they broke. We built our own houses.  So that money stood us in good stead for a while. And then at some point the clinic became like this, this job that many people, most people at the farm actually were employed in. And although we paid ourselves almost nothing, we didn't need much. There were thinning contracts with the BLM. There were tree planting contracts. I think I made the most money per hour at $10 an hour planting trees. I felt incredibly rich. So, yeah, people did different sorts of jobs. But we tried not to be gone from the farm for extended periods of time because we had a huge organic garden. We grew most of our own food and did a lot of canning and preserving food.  And so it was not an easy lifestyle. You had to work really hard. But it was joyous because there were other people like you surrounding you and you were working together. Give you an example. So here's what a woodrun would be like. So you have to have firewood. And back in those days, you could just go off into the BLM or forest service and find standing dead trees and go up and cut them down. They marked regions where you could go. Yeah, regions where you could go. But they didn't mark the trees. Well, sometimes they did, but yeah. I don't remember tree, Markle. No, that's a different story. I'm talking about firewood.  A couple people in the cab, three or four people in the back, chainsaws, malls. And we just drive down in the road off into California somewhere and spotting them.  We'd throw it repeatedly down the hill and somebody would be splitting it up. And we have this, what's the word I'm looking for? Henry Ford. What did he do? He had a... Machine line? Yes, assembly line. And this assembly line of... So the work all got done. We'd put it together, big pile of wood in the back of the truck.  And then we got back to the main house, back the truck in, and folks had already been making dinner and baking bread and then put, you know, Bob Marley on the tape recorder and playing it while everybody kind of throws the wood, one person or the stacks it up. And we did a lot of stuff that way. Very gratifying, solidifying. And those people that we lived with and worked with are still our primary friends, many of them moved here. And they're the people we see. And we'd go to parties with them. Became our family. Were there ever fights? Oh, no. We always got along. No, there were always fights. There were some actual fights. I mean, throwing fists and knocking people down. Yeah, there were fights. Looking back on some of those fights, I think some of them were like, you know, kind of archetypal, you know, who's the dominant male kind of fights and who's the dominant female kind of fights.  They just really are, you know. And so, you know, in terms of sometimes people would leave because it's like, I can't handle Joe. You know, I'm just tired of Joe telling me what he thinks I ought to be doing. I'm out of here. Or, you know, I mean, in my case, yes, that's who Joe was, but we had some mutual respect, you know. He worked at the clinic and he was willing to have me tell him what I thought he ought to do when he was at the clinic and when it came to, you know, sharpening a chainsaw, Joe knew, you know, maybe I didn't like to have somebody else tell me how to sharpen a chainsaw, but I'd swallow my pride and did it anyway. There were lots of dynamics and people would come and go and there'd be fights and arguments. And frankly, living in a commune, I'll speak for myself. I was young. I felt like I was a bit of a feral child. I don't feel like I had a lot of guidance. And I, you know, I think I needed some help in learning the ways of the world. And the commune was very helpful to see how other people behaved and interacted and raised children. Oh, that's how you raise children. Maybe I could do that someday. And learning life skills. My gosh, you know, I mean, I feel pretty comfortable now. I can build things. I know how to deal with my car. I, you know, I didn't have that growing up. But my point is that at some point, feeling like I had to ask permission of a group of people whether or not to take the truck. And somebody else was going to kind of judge whether it was a valid use of the truck.  You could take a car. I know that all the cars are gone, but I don't know that's good use for the truck. It's like, at some point you go, you know, enough's enough. I think I want to be more independent than that. Well, that happened over a period of years. Years. We were there for like 17 years. But those are the kinds of issues that you have to deal with.  It's like, this is how we do it. This is how we've always done it. And then, you know, gosh, the moment we stopped boiling our coffee and using molasses and goat's milk as a way to make it taste better, it's like, whoa, you mean we can dance? There we go. Perk coffee. Anyway, because we've done it like that, you know, that's how we do it. That's how you do coffee. So what drew me to the farm was different than for Jim. I remember, I was checking into the library in Cape Junction, and this van stopped and it was full of people from Magic Forest Farm. And they were all from the East Coast. They all had on plaid shirts. They looked dressed similarly. And they were very intelligent and well-read. And I was like, wow, this is great. I'm going to the library. These people, they have a lot of books in their space. And they invited me to come up and look at books if I wanted to. I could borrow books from them. They were just a whole different kind of people than I had grown up with. And I was really attracted to that. It was a very intellectual community. And each commune in the area was different. It had different kinds of people pursuing different kinds of ideas and structure. And I was drawn to that particular one. As an example of intentionality, every week there were, not every week, but every six months or so, there were what was called criticized meetings, where one person would be it and people, it would go around in a circle and people would talk about what was difficult for them with that person. And one person would take notes and you weren't allowed to say anything in your defense. You just had to listen and accept what was being said. I found that so incredibly helpful to my personal growth to understand how other people saw me and things that some things were painful. But it really created for me personally a lot of growth. So lots of different things happened over the course of 17 years and the structures changed. There was a whole women's movement and sort of a women's revolt. So women at one point, we decided we wanted to do a building project at the clinic, so we remade one of the rooms to be what was called the women's room and the remodel and the carpentry was done totally by women because it was very different for women who had learned carpentry skills from men to try and figure out how they wanted to approach, how we wanted to approach a project. And it was a lot of fun. It also became very near to making the commune split because the women wanted to change roles and yet it was really difficult because the men were so entrenched in their roles. It was a pretty chauvinistic time, really. I think people forget that. We married the greater society. So there was a women's lib movement. There was a back-to-the-land movement first, then into the war, then social justice and women's liberation. All the movements that happened nationally happened on the commune. I just want to mention that the way we did women's health care had some real political overtones to it. It really was women's work. I was the licensed person there, but the speculating exam and the mirror to see what your service is, the education, these exams go an hour and a half. A women's health care exam could include all of your friends and a lot of education. It was primarily done by the women to help other women, and the birthing was like that as well, where there's a lot of touching and talking and soothing, and that was trained women, helping other women to be empowered in that process. It became really clear when I was pregnant and nursing a child that what I could do in terms of taking care of my child was really different. I'm happy to say that now those strict, definite role stereotypes are really being challenged. I see more and more men carrying babies in front carriers, men staying home with their children. It's challenging to do it when you're breastfeeding, but you can save milk and milk banks and freezing milk, and dads can be just as involved as moms can be in mirroring children. But that was a long time coming, and for us, there was a lot of intellectual reflection on how can we make this more equal? Why do women have to be designated to stay at home and clean the house and take care of the children? Why can't women do more of the men's work? Why can't women do wood runs? When we did. I was just thinking about some of the things that we take for granted philosophically now we're sort of incubating then, but I'm thinking about the way we brought men into the birthing experience. So men were, you know, the ones that wanted to be, were often very involved in the prenatal care, were very involved in the birth itself, and so kind of fostered a sense of belonging to that. I have no idea what they did after we left them, but that probably helped create more of a merging or certainly around childcare. I can give you a personal answer and then I can tell you what I think is happening, but personally, what I've discovered is that as I go out in the world and I assume responsibilities and do different jobs, I am always looking around to figure out, you know, who has ideas that are really going to be important for us to make this decision. And I think that that's been really helpful for me. Is that collaborative style is appreciated by some and not appreciated by others? Kind of slows things down sometimes, but it's a part of the work I do. It's, you know, you take it or leave it if you want to, if you want me to participate in some task, you can be fairly certain that's how I'm going to do it. And so that's a lasting legacy of having both lived communally and really practiced medicine communally. And there's a lot of stuff now that people are going, hey, you know, let's have a huddle in the morning to plan out how we're going to do the day and let's get together at the end and see how we did. Duh, yeah. Or why don't we integrate behavioral health and why don't you empower your medical assistant more? So you can be, it's like, that was how we did it. And so I see it reflected in where I think responsible medicine's headed, but it's also just kind of a part of my work style. I grew up as a very private person and quiet and I'm a slow thinker, not a fast-speeding one. But I learned a different way of interacting with people by living communally. I learned that there are many different ways to approach a problem and approach the world. And even after I no longer live communally, in the work that I do, I manage homeless shelters here in Ashland, when I came to that idea, I started that process by saying, I know there are people in the community, if we all work together, I'm sure we can provide this service as volunteers. As our government is more and more dysfunctional, it really requires individuals to band together to provide some of the basic needs of a community. And I feel like that's a lasting value that I got from living communally and going through the process of building the clinic and the communes and the community.  And it's of great value because even in medical emergencies, now I know you need to act quickly, but I think it's really important to bring the patient and the family into the process to try and understand what's happening. And I just see that approach happens more in medicine, certainly. And hopefully, I wish it would happen more in politics. Next month is the commune's 50th anniversary. It's still there. Every 10 years we have a reunion. This will be the 50th. People coming from all over the country, all over the world actually, just to reconnect, people who've spent some period of time. Because if you think about it, some people were there for six months and they changed their lives. Some people were there for 40 years and changed their lives. And so it's a phenomenon, this cauldron. A living changing organism. Yeah, and it's different than it was. But it's still there. It's a beautiful piece of land. Some people have just beautiful houses. It's got an incredible garden. And there are other communes in the area that are also still there. And they've also transformed. Well, for one thing, we have a daughter who did not grow up on the farm. Our two older children spent their early childhood living communally and our two younger children did not. But she is now currently at our house, the house we built, the log house in Tekelman. She's currently there and she's doing her PhD thesis work. But she feels resonant with the community. It speaks to her.  And there were a lot of young people. I mean, the school, the community school, the dome school. We didn't talk about that at all. Oh, there's so many things we didn't talk about. But, you know, the community building that we all participated in building and the school is growing. It's bigger than ever. It's got more grades than ever. It's got more participation than ever. And young people who look very much like we looked, you know, they're just they're idealistic and they're healthy and, you know, they want to do it their way and they're confident and confident. And so I feel like the torch has been passed, so to speak. And I mean, society isn't talking about a back to the earth movement or a communal living movement anymore. It feels like maybe we've moved on, but for a lot of people, not at all. There's a farm to table movement. The words are slightly different. The appearances are slightly different, but some of the concepts are the same. It would not be healthy for it just to be, you know, the children of the hippies who never left home. There's definitely a rejuvenation happening. And, you know, we're pretty far removed from it. We just kind of, you know, dip our toe in from time to time. But there was a celebration for the Dome School. Were you aware of this? It was about three, four months ago because they just built this addition. And one of the things I did, so a sideline for me has been to take photographs of those years. And so what I did was I blew up a lot of pictures, black and whites from the old days. Enlarged. Enlarged, is a word. Didn't explode them. I enlarged them. And we put them all up around the Dome School. What was so neat to see was the parents of the children who go to the Dome School. Two things impressed me, how many of them there were. And the other was how much they seemed to really want to know about the history. You know, like I felt a respect for the elders, which in our society is sort of, you know, you become more and more invisible as you get older in general. And these were people wanting to, you know, I want to understand the story. How'd that happen? You know, who are you? And it's like, wow, that was pretty cool.


Many of the issues that you hear about Africa in terms of its future and the challenges that it's facing energy is perhaps one of the the key pillars and How is Africa going to meet the challenges of it's not only meeting its demands, but putting into place reliable generation technology to meet its demands and a lot of the excitement that's going into that is to looking in the area of renewables which means wind solar hydropower and What is unescapable about renewables is that it's controlled by climate. It's controlled by weather and you have to Provide methods you have to provide information that not only tells you The contemporary fabric of of wind solar and hydropower energy resources. Where can we tap into that now? But we also need to think carefully about where we install these Installations and whether or not we can rely upon them over the course of the next few decades under climate change Would one particular scenario present a sizable risk in terms of shifting key resources? one of the technical challenges is going back to the issue of models and The struggle that we the challenge that we always face with climate modeling and impact modeling is what is the appropriate? granularity of our models how Detailed do we have to really get? before we Can provide useful information and so one of the critical areas that we're going to look into is the appropriateness or the appropriate resolutions that we need to to run these models and also provide analyses of Again current renewable energy resources their intermittency how this intermittent behavior Can be predicted or not predicted and how this may change in the future Perhaps the most original and important piece of this work is to try to bridge a gap between highly detailed very detailed process oriented models and more efficient methods so that we can get we can obtain and synthesize and and provide a probabilistic or risk-based projection of of all of these resources and how they may change in the future as probably one of the key novel aspects of this research We refer to uncertainty in the what you might call the dependent variables of an impact model So say you're concerned about agriculture while agriculture relies on many different Variables most of them have to do with weather and climate temperature precipitation And typically in the context of uncertainty We refer to the uncertain inputs of that system as uncertainty the risk is the result you put all these uncertain variables together and you end up with a distribution of an agricultural stress or an agricultural need for irrigation and it's that Distribution of that outcome which we refer to or we think of as this is the risk that climate change imposes on a particular system We as climate forecasters modelers We have to be very careful, and I think very very honest as to the capabilities that we can really provide to people who really need this information and With the framework that we use by providing a Probabilistic distribution of outcomes what we are essentially conveying to anybody who's interested in this information using this information Is that you cannot rely on One Forecast so you run a model and you get one answer and you say well, that's the answer you cannot rely on a Forecast what you can provide is guidance Where is the central tendency of a large ensemble of future? Plausible outcomes. Where is that? Where is the central tendency of that going? Do you need to worry about the tails of that distribution? Do the tails become really wide where? Some of the less probable yet highly impactful Outcomes are really something that need to be paid attention to and that's that is really the essence of what we mean by providing guidance one key outcome is using methods that we have used before is to give Those that are interested Guidance in the futures of hydropower resource Will we see a substantial shift? In the hydropower resources will they become more intermittent are these are these issues that? Need to be planned far enough at advance so that you are either prepared to meet those challenges or that you can adapt to them another key outcome is Also looking at the deployment of wind and solar if Africa Chooses to take on this challenge and really become serious about deploying Wind and solar installations at a very wide scale a very broad scale You need to understand where those resources resources are How do they intersect with? Lands that we wouldn't be able to use endowed lands or lands that are unwilling to be given up For these types of insulations. How does that all intersect now? How that how may that intersect in the future do the wind and solar resources change in the future? They become more intermittent So an area where you may have thought right now as a prime candidate for deployment may not be as attractive in the future


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Going on everyone Sam here with late sports cards have been 23 Bowman baseball jumbo 8 box case break number 15 random team style There's a look again at your random results. Thanks again as always for the fill You can find these on the website under the results tab as well as a link in chat. So good luck here everybody So like there's two issues right now. There's like still hair from like the previous tenant in the drain So I was like can you just like snake it when you get here? He's like, yeah, yeah, sure. So then he's like, hey, what's up, SG Sean's here too. Yo I was wondering where you were. I know I know yeah, like literally Sean asked about you earlier SG And so every Wednesday now to SG me and Sean Stop inspire So like can you sneak it while you're here? He's like, yeah sure sure sure and then like we're already like So I come in I'm like like he comes in today and I was like, oh, here's the issue blah, blah, blah Like and I'm like, can you also snake the drain after and he's like, oh, we'll do one thing at a time right now I'm like, all right there then he just like rips apart the kitchen sink So the kitchen sinks unusable right now obviously and then after he like leaves to go and get the new part And I'm like, can you snake the drain and he's like, no, I don't think so. I'm like, all right, dude. Really? Let's go Max Meyer 250 Yes, sir, you know it JDL Sanchez to 299 in the white speck a lot of the angels back in biz baby. Yes, sir. Yes, sir Purple ray wave to 250 Simon Juan and they settle again. Oh, yeah Destroyed my Tigers for years to come. I know I know it's been rough It's been rough to be a Tiger sand for sure. There's there's no doubt about that sweet and base Let's see if you're doing super Vulpie base and base Marcel Meyer and base Jackson holiday on the back there Nuts nuts There's a will your abray you Base first auto nice one there. Yeah, that's true. That'll all that'll make some moves right there Gabriel and rena. Yeah, we've pulled two Drew Joneses. So I've ripped. This is the ninth case I've ripped today and we didn't pull one until case seven and eight. We pulled a refractor auto in both They pulled one in case seven one case eight. That's really been it for drew Jones. Yeah I mean we pulled like a purple lunar crater to 199 and that's really been about it to Shea Langleers Christian Hernandez sky blue paper to 499 Yeah, they are they are not easy not easy pulls at all which good I'm glad Yeah, it's rap 80 war. Yeah more of a chase. It was like cheerio dude cheerio and bowman chrome was like impossible to find Edward Julian on the Lunar glow is Josh John Carlos Comanara's Take bias in his contract. Hey bias is on a 10 game hitting streak though sweet I only know that because I have one in fantasy. So I've been like Trying to keep up a little bit. It doesn't start for me But yeah, that that bias contracts a little rough He's like a classic case of like played as hard as he could until he got paid and now it's kind of like yeah I have a hundred something million guarantees. Whatever. I'm done. That is one Karela To 100 on the atomic nice one there for the inks Yeah Yeah, right. I know it's like 70 million a year between him and just between two guys Yeah, but baby Smart Johnson and base Yeah, that's not that much insane Corbin Carol rookie Miguel please and base I'll do it for box one go on a box, too One Cincinnati top guys in the class would be The guy from America keep forgetting his name the guy from the Mariners Lazaro Montez For the Mariners Yosue de Paula for the Dodger Spencer Jones for the Yanks Junior Caminero for the Rays Justin Crawford Phillies Edward Julian twins Gabriel Gonzalez for the Mariners Emmanuel Bonilla for the Blue Jays Jacob Barry for the Marlins is really good Matt Mervis for the Cubs is pretty solid There's Corbin Carol nice Drew Jones on the Lunar Wave Or the Lunar Glow, excuse me Lunar Glow congrats on that one there Diamondbacks Who else I would say would be good Roman Anthony's pretty solid For the Red Sox, yeah, so there's some good names in there for sure Kyle Out of the shop, please I know Kyle Stores on the true blue rookie auto to 150 for the Orioles Plus like all the rookie autos Harris Adley Henderson Riley Greene Beatty Alvarez Rhett Beatty speaking of base Jones first in this year. It's like just hard to find your Jones all around rookie Gunnar Henderson Gunnar Henderson rookie that is prospects Marcella Meyer She's Green papers say a Suzuki the 399 the cubbies How you leap on the refractor to 499 nice one there for the Phillies Yasser Mercedes the 299 on the white speckle for the twins. Yes, sir Mercedes Curse me need for me on the cusp is Jackson Cheerio a Kyle Harrison. How you do that cruise? 5-2 potential drew Jones. There's Emmanuel Bonilla nice one there for the Blue Jays Very nice thing on that one. Grats Toronto one of the big guys you're looking for for sure young keel place James Wood Designed in rookies Vaughn chrism pink Marcos Cabrera 299 I'm not really consider that like a prospects card if it's not a first there's not the RC logo on it I don't really necessarily consider it like a rookie. I mean there they're they're monumentally less valuable For sure, there's Jackson holiday almost on the Lunar glow keep forgetting that Henry Davis the 125 teal shimmer Christian Veccharo spotlight Joshua bias and Christian Veccharo top 100 that is Nico gold shimmer first of all Nico poyaca Grego nice one there congrats on that Phillies Very nice gold shimmer to 50 Colson Montgomery. There's a yellow Ronnie Simon to 75 a lot of Ronnie Simon color, which is good Not a ton of autos for like one or two, but a lot of color of him Marcelo Marne Marr Johnson top 100. There's Francisco Alvarez rookie prospects pretty house here and Justin Crawford top 100. There's Adley Rushman rookie prospects and then a Rafaela Miguel Vargas Justin Crawford on the refractor to 499. There you go Phillies grats on that one. Phil Delphi a Nicholas S Grats, man. So then a Rafaela Samuel Munoz Anthony Volpe. There's Jordan Waller Juana Lanza bias holiday and Aurelvis Martinez for the blue jays on the top 100 woman scouts Here's a Oswald Paraza rookie for the inks Zach Jelloff to 499 For the AIDS sky blue paper Pull young Here's Brock Jones That is a base first auto for the race. Nice one there race Another like low key guy here as well Josh Jung and base Luis Angel Acuña box four Marne Johnson Austin Charles on the lunar glow first for the um Royce Here's Francisco Alvarez Jackson Holliday Take a berry first Nick Gonzalez top 100 woman scouts There's Roman Anthony. Nice one there purple 2250 congrats on that red sox roman anthony Purple for the red sox It's a Blake paper a blaper Nolan Gorman Garrett Mitchell. I know it's crazy Simon one Usually it's announced usually the checklist will come out like a few days before the product comes out Um, but a lot of a lot of times you could speculate who's going to be on it most of its speculation But you can make like educated guesses who's going to be in it like Most people knew that like adley ruchman was going to be in top series one And he was like Michael Harris guys like that Spencer troposon sky blue paper to 499 for the tigers. We've got a nice Josue de Paula white speckled a 299 First one of him there you go Dodgers or in w Josue de Paula finally Yes, yes, it was less confused fair fair. Yes, definitely Definitely and your pay or andy pages carlos colman eras Lava juky lbert to 399 daniel espino, uh rookie triton cossus There's lime green paper edwin arroyo to 399 for the reds like pro-settin score Yulber Herrera to 499 refractor for the twins There's leo for guero On the rookie of the year Uh Rookie auto congrats on that not rookie there, but rookie auto for the pirates leo for guero Miguel Vargas Ellie dala cruise All right box fun There's an invicta your donny de los sanzos for the pirates nice one there pittsburgh on the invicta Love that the invictas are harder to hit now So much nicer. That's good That's good. Shea langleers rookie to 150 blue paper Just no rookies. That's still though. Uh matt mervis face auto for the cubs Nice one there I mean, hey jordan stuff is jordan stuff, man. There's always going to be a market for that Blue shimmer page or a mirror. It's the 150 Kobe man Marco Luciano I know we have not pulled we haven't pulled a red today in nine cases, dude. I can't believe that Unreal dude Really no reds there Good god, dude Uh, henry davis Jordan lawler, I mean a ton of golds pull a lot of like no shortage of golds for sure, which is good Obviously no oranges in this but That's nuts dude Good god Justin crawford again.  That is awesome. We'll get that Magged as well to 150 Justin crawford big hit there Yeah, I would say so a secondary color match for sure What's your new covenants blackovers? That's pretty cool. Actually nice Adley rushman rookie. There you go, uh, sweet Purple pattern brock jones first to 199 For the rays on the paper oswald parraza Drew jones five tool potential and kevin alcantra The cubs still breaks my heart Not a Yankee Uh, trishon casas rookie prospects mahiya. I'm sure he's Yeah, I'm sure he is There's lunar glow kenny gomez for the Astros on the first colton kouser jet the met williams Gabriel gansalis that is atomic to a hundred. There you go mariners Congrats on that one. That's awesome. You like that one too. Trippy. Oh boy. I'm gonna get this bot out of here Bots becoming too smart Oswald parraza Coloss, we'll just uh Here jones first. We'll just give them our we'll give them our shirts. Yeah, that's how we get them out of here Here's my shirt. I don't need them anymore No Let's give them back to you.  Yeah Recycling boys Three boxes to go box six There's a green paper matt wallner to 3.99 for the twins Uh samile de la rosa on the base first thought of for the cardinals Mikey Romero to 1.99 on the pink crater pink lunar Ellie de la Cruz and Jackson holiday face that is uh Michelle de son to 250 On the purple ray wave That won't be until bowman chrome comes out That's a bowman chrome thing like this only has hobby which is one auto and all the base and then jumbo which is Three autos and all the base. Yeah, rally green rookie. So that won't come out until bowman chrome comes out That's usually a little bit down the road pink marsala meyer to uh, 2.99 Caden dana I swung there for the angels true blue to 150 Congrats angels Oswald perraza So then a raffaella and dylan. Let's go early still no Just getting started roger guys do another nine cases after this Simon one Caleb. Oh boy. Oh boy Joshua Baez. What up? What up? Lunar glow. What's up Caleb? Oh man Now it's a party. Yeah, everybody better get your band buttons ready though. Yeah, there's paden junger uh refractor auto to 4.99 Uh for the blue jays for the lauler laula Grayson roger 100 bowman scouts There's gabelor morano rookie the vbex semilimunios. There's a blaze lake base Jackson jove not to be confused with a blaper Yeah Francisco alparez rookie Uh, Jordan lauler league of his own and base. So tonight raffaella. I know. Yes, we do Yeah, you and shawn with the early morning tea time. Oh boy Yes, we do I'm gonna be out there before they put the tea markers in We're playing a go-kart so I know that's what I'm saying This guy's taking his time Yes, I'm getting him out. I'm kicking him out of here. I'm kicking him out of here And Caleb's gone as good as gone at this point There's jackson holiday Jackson sharia Lunar, uh, blue is khalil watson. That's christian mccaro Yes, gee. We got an 8am tea time. Oh man Yeah, true. You're not working I'm clean for the draft. Oh, yeah Moncy No, I'm with you brother 100 That's fair That's fair We've got willier abray you on the blue crater to 150 for the astros I just went there houston to 150 Adley rushman rookie Miguel blaze and kevin parata. Wow 78 or 79 and 80. That's awesome Francisco alvarez. Wow Geez, dude. That's that's Congrats that's strong Yeah, if you've got nothing else that day makes even better. No rush. Very true. That's exactly what's going on tomorrow Wilmer florets Base first auto for the tigers membership is worth it. Yeah, if you play the same course like definitely the membership is worth it uh christian serda to 125 on the teal crater So then i raffaella and marcella mire There's trey sweeney Uh, marcella mire blue shimmer to 150 Ooh, it gets you eight golf courses. That's awesome Yeah, that's totally worth it then one membership gets you access to eight different courses Paparaz makles the dove What are you rocking the visor out there sg? Yeah Paparaz always walking in double shoes. Yeah. Oh, yeah Always uh as walled paraza. That is green paper. Elijah green to 399 gold shimmer come on big name That is andrew taylor nice one there for the stroze stroze having a good break Uh, 250 gold shimmer first auto Josh jung rookie A blaper there's a blank paper. Okay, the blaper See you like that one last box of the night guys. Good luck Thanks again for hanging in here with me Appreciate it. Just did nine cases of bowman tonight 2023 bowman nine cases of it Not too bad. Not too shabby for sure. Here's gary coal lime green paper to 299. We've got a brandon walter first base auto for the uh red sox I know it's like a True blue drew jones or give us a red dude. Just give us any red. Any red Just want to see a red. I know I bet they look cool this year too and edgard quero biggest hit of the night um true blue cam collier or Probably the drew jones refractor autos. I would say Andy pages. We have two drew jones refractor autos. That's it for drew Yeah, I'd say those are probably through biggest j blades and A couple of gold sprinkled in here in there too like some decent golds Michael arroyo is pretty solid true gold a few others as well A lot of cruise Last box magic. I thought that was a res of fuchsia. Damn dude trolled right there Future paper jefferson rojas to 299. That's true. That's just the market though. Yeah The market the declares that That's manwell belcher on the purple to 250 for the blue jays Manwell belcher miguel varks It's all paper uh francisco alvarez rookie real deal jonathan mayhia smart jackson holliday There's dylan friasz on the lunar glow Or day on friasz. I keep saying dylan dude It looks like All right, last auto of the break is Ronnie uh, ronnie simon nice way to end it right there refractor first auto for the raise 376 out of 499. That's tampa. So we've got a red base now Red red or super Last three packs I did not know sean was there. Yeah, sean was there with forrest. No, I was not there. I broke on monday. I had yesterday off Forrest and ibay essentially switched monday and tuesday garret michael I watched a little bit of it. I was pretty cool. Yeah, it was pretty awesome I was lurking for a bit drew jones first. I didn't go in and really say anything But I would check in every now and then just watch for a couple minutes Last pack guys. Good luck nolyn gorman rookie simon juan yankeel And refractor vincent poroso to 499 the quick recap here guys We've got brandon walter wilmer flores simile de la rosa matt mervis leover peguero rock jones a manua bonia willier abray you hayden uh younger Ronnie simon Howie lee jadell sanchez manuel belchray roman anthony kyle stowers caden dana willier abray you won karela niko poyaka grego andrew taylor we had a refractor jesson crawford and a blue crater jesson crawford For the filly a couple of nice firsts there uh gabriel gonzalez atomic 200 And finally was able to pick up a yosue gapala 156 out of 299 for the dodgers That'll do it for the break guys. Thanks again for the fill. Uh, that's it. That is it for the night


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the newsroom for telecom professionals, and JSA radio, the voice for tech and telecom on iHeart radio. I'm Jamie Scott of the TIA joining me here today is my friend, Mr. Simon Lee. He's the director of St. Terrace, as well as the managing director of Sapiens Capital Partners. Simon, thanks for joining us. Good morning, Jamie. I really love taking off the new year speaking with you, so I really appreciate your time, Simon. I see you and as many do as an industry thought leader, a visionary. And so I love getting a sense from you to kick it off 2017 of what you see is coming in the world of technology. So what do you see as the necessary infrastructure that we need to support IoT? Well, this notion of software defined is coming. And we've been seeing that in the communication space. And certainly all of the technologies around IoT have been under development for quite a while, and they are starting to happen. So the standards are being set. The hardware is becoming available. The communication systems to support it are becoming available. And there's no question that everything that frankly uses electricity ultimately will likely have an IP address. And the result of that means that the ability, the requirement, frankly, to be able to communicate and control securely to those devices is going to be incredibly important. So from an infrastructure standpoint, edge development is incredibly important. We have to be able to reach those devices. That might mean Wi-Fi. It might mean new standards like Alora or SIGFOX in order to reach everything from a home, a plant, or a connected or autonomous vehicle. All those things are required. But a couple of things that we just mentioned, security is incredibly important. Nobody needs their car hacked because that's a potentially life-threatening issue. Nobody wants a physical plant hacked in any way. And people are scared of having their cameras like we're using now infiltrated by someone in Sidious. So security is incredibly important. And that will also require greater knowledge of the network, not just from a security standpoint, but also from a performance standpoint because these devices need to be online at all times. And even though some of them can probably deal with a lapse or two, at the end of the day, there are mission critical activities, certainly for an enterprise, or if we're talking about an autonomous vehicle, where maintaining that connection is mission critical. Talking mission critical, what do you see as the trends right in the data center space as we ramp up to accommodate all this data? You know, some of the things that have been happening the last few years will continue. And what I mean by that is that some of the big will continue to get bigger. That means that these large-scale developments for hyperscale computing aren't going to turn around anytime soon. So the largest of the large will continue to build bigger and bigger. And yet at the same time, distribution will be incredibly important. So larger campuses near major metros will likely be a continuing trend, especially where power is relatively inexpensive and there are high populations. As an example, ideally you can find that intersection. But edge data centers are here. There have been a number of companies that have been very successful in doing that. As a new business model, there are incumbents like the equinexes of the world that have refocused on their edge. And even this notion of having somewhat containerized data centers even further at the edge will take root. It's a matter of time and perhaps those business models haven't been worked out. But I fully anticipate that that will continue to happen because we just need compute and resources and that data closer and closer to where people are. Yes, that old real estate mantra, right? Location, location, location. Same is true. So putting your crystal glass ball on the display here, what do you see as the predictions for the new year, for 2017 moving forward? It's interesting. You know, the beginning of the year in particular is interesting because announcements come out. So recently a CES is an example. We heard AT&T, you know, certainly a large telecommunications company announced Indigo, which is their software-defined effort. And there are other large carriers that are starting to partner with software-defined companies because they find it faster. Perhaps there are additional services that they didn't develop themselves. So it's what was sort of the land startups is starting to migrate into the land of the established. So I very much see enterprises increasingly having access to companies that they've worked with, not just emerging companies anymore, but their established providers implement models which allow them a tremendous amount of flexibility in how they provision, purchase, and use telecom services. But that will also increasingly penetrate into how systems are managed and run. So the cloud has been a big story the last few years. We've all kind of maybe exhaustively talked about it, but implementing these software-defined architectures into the cloud such that your compute resources, your storage resources, all the things that you need to run an enterprise are very easily, flexibly, reliably accessible. And that is a trend that's been happening, but I think, you know, technology never moves in parallel everywhere. Certain things advance. We had the cloud advance and then we had the communication systems that had to kind of catch up to support it. Well, that is starting to happen. And now we have IoT and other things come along which are increasingly going to push sort of the technical boundaries out even further. But I do see IoT adoption happening. I see a lot of activity in the autonomous and connected vehicle space. Some of these trials that companies like Tesla have made where they run cars, you know, fully autonomous from like up, you know, from California to Seattle as an example have happened already. BMW has an effort where they're going to deliver some percentage of, you know, autonomous vehicles through their Reach Now program. A lot of major companies, including our domestic car manufacturers, are spending a ton of time, effort and energy into these programs. So I don't know that we're going to see a ton of these vehicles on the road, but these tests, what we are going to see is that the application for cars is going to lead the test bed and start to become commercialized. We're talking about driverless cars and SCN coming at us quickly. Can you tell us how we're getting there? It all seems so science fiction and a little scary, especially in terms of security and how we're going to prioritize all this data for really critical life-threatening decisions, like stopping a car before a crash. Yeah, that's a very good point. And it was science fiction, not that long ago, but the good news is that a lot of advancements have been made more recently in things like machine learning and artificial intelligence that are really helping us. And it's not just about cars. It's about how do you, in a universe where there are going to be billions and billions of devices, and there are going to be many of which are going to control things that are that are mission critical. How do we set priorities? How do we make sure that the key functions occur? And how do we make sure that application thresholds are maintained? And it's not going to be human-controlled. It is going to be via machine learning. So the network has to become more intelligent, has to become more aware. And we've been talking about this awareness for a long time, but in the past it was only a QoS discussion. Now it has to be a security discussion. Now it has to be a prioritization by application or even sub-application, such that the machines, the cars, whatever they may be that need the data can access the data or be able to communicate effectively. So fortunately we're seeing lots and lots of advances out of the likes of IBM, Watson, out of the Amazons of the world and Google. And we're even seeing it applied in the home as a lot of people now have these Amazon Echoes and the Google Home, which are fairly intelligent devices that will only learn more and more as they live with you. So that's the good news. We do see lots of advancements that are bringing science fiction into reality, and the application of these are no longer something for movies. We're seeing them applied in our world today. Certainly a brave new world. Thank you my friend for joining us here and being so gracious with your time and predictions and insights. And thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA Radio and JSA TV.


Okay, definition for ego. To me, ego is a belief system that is the denial of love. It's an attempt to deny the awareness of love's presence. And so it sets up like a cover or a shield to cover over this experience of love. And for everyone who comes to this planet, you know, the ego is there in awareness. No one comes to earth without the belief in an ego. And we could say by definition nirvana or heaven is the love. And that this is an attempt to run away from that love, to hide from that love, to cover over that love. And so even the ego is a belief system that invents substitutes. So it's invented things like romantic love to take to place of divine love. And it's invented electric light bulbs to take to place of heavenly light, you know, wisdom. And it's made up all kinds of substitutes to take to place of love. So it is just a belief system and of course in miracles, Jesus talks about it. He says, you made the ego by believing in it. And you can dispel it by withdrawing your belief from it. By unplugging the power of your mind from this erroneous, faulty belief system that is attempting to deny love. And in the end, when you have this experience of the peace, then, you know, it's an awareness that the ego isn't. That love is all that there is. That's the whole point of the spiritual journey is to have an experience that love is everything. It's all and all and there is nothing but love. The Beatles were on the right track with All You Need Is Love. You know, everybody resonates for that song because they were really on it. And this world is just an attempt to deny that love. It seems like in this world, recently with tsunamis and earthquake and radiation and so forth, things like that, there seems to be lots of things in the world that human beings are afraid of. But that's all part of a distracted device to cover over the sphere of this divine love that's deeper inside. That's deeper, deeper. Beyond the subconscious beliefs of fear, there is a sense of love. It doesn't make much sense initially when you hear the term sphere of love. It's like, afraid of love. I'm not afraid of love. I love love. That's usually the experience people have. But all the projected fears about survival of the body and earthquakes and plagues and tsunamis and so forth that involve the body, that's all part of a distracted device. And it's really part of what we could say a fear of intimacy, a fear of really knowing who you truly are. The power of the magnitude and glory of the spiritual identity is hidden or covered over by these distractions of the world. So in one sense, Jesus said, I'm calling you out of the world. He didn't mean like calling you away from the cities into the forest or something like that. He just meant calling you to transcend these ego beliefs and to recognize and remember your spiritual nature, which is just pure love and light.


All right. I gotta take a break from digging and I'm gonna do something. I've been meaning to do for a while Okay, I've got this this boat right in front of me this boat here. Let's just take a good look at it That was a good-looking boat. Oh Yeah, that is a good-looking boat man. Look at that thing I've been driving this boat a lot. So right now I drive this boat a lot and also This this little guy here, I'm going somewhere just by myself. I'm not getting much cargo or anything I'll take the little fast boat But I'm often with a pile of kids or picking up some junk or whatever. So I've been driving this boat a lot and I did a time trial in this boat a little while ago and Okay, this is this is the boat I was driving before it's just chilling right now in that boat I made it to where I pick up packages in three hours and 20 minutes and then and I was hoping to Match that time in this boat and then I could get there and back in the same amount of time With like five times the amount of cargo weight space whatever not space, but maybe even five times. Anyway, I can hold a lot more cargo in this boat But when I went it took three hours and 40 minutes in this boat So 320 and then 340 now since then I've Carved off some of the barnacles on the bottom of the boat Because you know every time I take the boat out and I go for a swim. I'll grab my little scraper here Pick a little section on the bottom of the boat Just move it out a bit. So I'm pretty sure I've increased the speed on this boat some But there is another thing that I want to do Okay, let's go back to where the motor is back here, you know, we can see it well enough from here. No, let's go back. Okay So this is this is Just ignore my super fancy motor cover just a bucket so This bottom part is from like a 15 or a 20 horsepower gas motor and then I made this and Put an electric motor on top of it. So This actually came from a broken motor, so it was already pretty used and I Think it's starting to leak oil a little bit and it's starting to make funny sounds, you know, it's still working, but I Don't know. It's also I'm pretty sure Not optimized Because this is just a motor that I got and push just put it on this thing I didn't I didn't do any kind of scientific calculations for Rpms versus power or whatever. It's just it's just the motor I put so I'm sure it's not, you know Optimized for this propeller size and blah blah blah whatever There is another motor Let's just go back over here a bit This motor That's on on the other boat. This is the boat. I was driving a lot for a while um This motor here I'm pretty sure Outperforms the one that I currently have on this boat And I think that for a couple reasons. I mean one I just kind of get that feeling but also This thing is all, you know engineered at some place. I'm sure they put The appropriately sized motor with the right rpms and whatever for this propeller and whatever whatever Anyway, I'm pretty sure this this Motor outperforms the one I have on the boat currently and since I'm not using this boat I want to steal that and put it on here However, it doesn't currently fit Because this motor has, you know, the standard clamp onto the transom of a And yet back here, I've got this fancy thing that makes it easy to raise and lower the motor so uh Right here. There's the there's this Fiberglass pipe thing that I made right and this thing can slide up and down and it's got some pulleys and ropes So it's easy to pull the whole thing up and out of the water So I have to decide if I want to try to make that other motor fit into this somehow or if I want to like I don't know maybe Maybe you can just clamp right on to right on to here somewhere Is this thing strong enough? I don't know it's Yeah, it'll probably be all right Okay, first thing I should just get that motor off and bring it over And just just take a look. Uh, it should be enough. Hopefully I'll be back in a minute with that thing over Okay, that was a bit of a struggle, but I got it As uh As expected These things are really corroded in here and they didn't I couldn't loosen those so I just had to like wrestle the thing off the transom Luckily I had the foresight to put a few little pieces of wood here and there so it wouldn't damage the transom just those garbage pieces of wood. Okay Well, let's let's see what I do with this thing. I love these propellers. Look at the size of that thing. It was great All right, I gotta give this thing into the shade Oh man the sun has been brutal lately I had this string on here to prevent this thing from steering because on the other boat Uh, this didn't do any steering. I just needed to stay straight So let's get this off because I will use the steering features on this boat How am I gonna attach it? I don't I don't know Tie it on.  Then we can Do it I know I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to look at it and see what ideas we can come up with Or I can come up with maybe you can give me some ideas too. All right, I got the string off now the steering Basically this part rotates. Well, this part really stays stationary the rest rotates Oh man. Oh wow is that? that's Yeah, that should be able to oh wow that is really stuck All right, so maybe just Maybe that does not rotate anymore All right, this this whole section is like seized on and I tried pretty hard to get it moving So I think I'm just going to angle grind Down here and then on the other side and then hopefully just take that right off Without damaging, you know this this part that goes through there Yeah, I can do that Yes, the spark saw not not the angle grinder. Sorry the spark But I barely touched the middle part Did get a little bit Kind of impressed with this This wheel it went through the aluminum pretty well Because these get gummed up really easily All right, there was a collar here. I cut that off too. So now I've got a just a tube here and I measured on the other motor From the top of the propeller Up to where it bolts on to the you know the next part And so it's from here to here and that part is like somewhere out here So basically if I can make something that fits around here comes out then has a flat part here That's you know right at this level Then I should be able to bolt it on to the existing stuff And then you know if I make it kind of loose then it can rotate here And that will work well for the steering I don't even know if I have All right, let's go look in my pvc Scrap zone here This is not too far off All right, I'll have to melt this a bit to get it to fit However, okay the purpose of this Is to basically just put something on here that this can rub against and kind of wear against a little bit That's not going to cause any more corrosion the this is aluminum aluminum. I'm pretty sure And against plastic it's fine Um now if I make this other part out of metal I would not want that in contact with this Because then it'll they'll have corrosion issues. So I definitely want a plastic sleeve on here All right, so what I need to make Is not that complicated Okay, and then over here Let's see what kind of perspective. Yeah, that's basically that this has some kind of thickness of course and uh So the the motor part that pipe goes through here And maybe I'd want to make this in two pieces. So this Is disconnected and you know can bolt together so I can take it off and on Maybe I don't know if I need to do that Okay To be totally honest I'm sick of fiberglass. So I want to do this out of stainless steel The only concerns I have with stainless steel is if I have two thin sheets of steel here Then this part might might be too flexible. It might be too easy to bend There are a few different ways I could deal with that I'm thinking oh, let's see. This would have a Okay, so basically one piece we go across here and then fold out the other piece we go across here and fold out Yeah, so like One piece like that another piece Like that and then bolted bolted bolted and then bolted all the way Okay, so this part here. I want to make sure it's not too flexible and flimsy So maybe there's a some kind of sheet of something And I could put in there, you know kind of like a board but not a wood one because I don't want to make something that's gonna rot Of course, this would work great. However, there's no way I'm using that on this particular thing It is too valuable Even though I have a whole other piece and that stuff is so nice. I save it for really nice stuff Where I really need this strength But this particular piece does not need that much strength. It's just gonna be sandwiched between Two sheets of metal to just kind of give some rigidity I mean I could almost use like a piece of foam or something, but it's got to be stronger than that Oh, if I remember correctly Oh, yeah, there it is. Okay Is that what I think it is? I think that's what I think it is Yeah, okay So this is very similar to that other piece of plastic that there's no way I was going to use it But this is Way crappier and old and has been used and has cracks Not nearly as strong, but this does not have to be strong. I can definitely use a piece of this on it Okay, I went out and did some measurements. This is like two and a half to three inches across here And the thickness here is fine if I've got That chunk of plastic in there's plenty of space for it. So I think I think I've got a plan Well, obviously here's my new material. I've preferably don't have to use And over here we've got the garbola Yeah Should be able to get something out of here All right, I just took a hacksaw and cut that to the right length. Yes, I did good and then Cut a slit down one side And now what's next? I heated up the pipe Wrapped it around here and I was really hoping to have these ends Flare out and then the other one flare out and then they just match up Uh, but it was it was just too hard to manipulate. So I just wrapped it around It's overlapped And it's overlapped by that much right there So now I'm thinking if I cut this top layer off right there, then this should match up with the piece there Someone was asking a while ago what discs I'm using that are going through aluminum aluminum pretty well So this is what I used yesterday See how we did there. Oh, that's that shut That is about perfect. Oh, I don't want to change that at all. Yeah It's a tiny bit snug But easily rotates Well, I found this in my scrap metal and it looks like it might Be the perfect size. Oh, wow That is yeah, if I cut that right down the middle, that'd be perfect And it looks like it's about the right size to wrap around there and have the right distance All right, let's see how far this is Okay, eight and three-quarter noodles Okay, eight and three quarters all the way around So if I take one of the pieces, it's four and three-eighths Halfway around I'm going to put the chunk of metal in which is Three quarters all the way across so half of it would be three-eighths. So I can take that three-eighths off. So I've got four Imperial noodle units there to there I probably want to take off like an eighth just to make sure it's not too loose Because if it's a little bit too tight, I can just put a washer in there. I'd rather Okay, so three And seven eighths, okay Noodles Okay, say we use this lip As the part here that bolts it together at the end And then let's measure how far Oh, I love this thing. Thank you to the person who sent this to me. I also have a A sheet metal bender And a pipe bender. I have to set up still Stinky brains Okay, now we're getting somewhere. So I want to do here Some more between two and a half to three inches. All right, two and three quarters Oh, wow That is a good-looking piece of hardware right there Man, I hope it works All right, hopefully I can leave those two bolts in at the back and just So enough force it on how many bolts do you want over here? I guess three three left More space than I needed Which isn't a problem. That's fine All right, just need a spacer in there All right, let's see these nuts fit on there Okay, yeah, that's about right Why am I going through from the bottom to the top? Because all of these went through that way. It totally doesn't matter, but I want to keep them all the same And this one's got a lock nut Just because I think these ones are most likely to come loose Oh, that looks great And I probably should have put some grease in there before I Just Then I can stuff a bit up there So just put a bit of oil in there and it'll drip down Okay, I got the old motor off and the thing I noticed about this is it is way heavier The motor ends about the same But down here all this stuff. Oh so much heavier than this All right, it looks like I made things about right Yeah Oh, that looks about perfect. It's just held on with my vice grapes right now So all I have to do is put a few holes in And my bolts All right some good All right, I guess I better check that this motor actually works. I haven't used it in months. It should be fine I hope Okay, I'm just kind of resting those on there I'm not gonna bolt them in yet. I don't even know if they're connected the right direction but let's Oh, whoa That is awesome. I'll tell you what's awesome in a second So right now it's it's sprinkling. It's raining. There's hardly any sun out And when I when I move this switch forward When it contacts right here that connects a couple solar panels And it doesn't get to the batteries till I'm connecting way up here And I already turned on the battery switch because I presumed Based on my last motor that it wouldn't do anything on the solar panels in this low light, but It looks like it looks like this motor has a way lower startup Amperage So that's great Um That is really good. Oh man. All right, uh Let me screw those in the propeller was turning the right direction Um So I can screw my wires and everything and I have a little motor for the cover. Let me put the red Move this a little bit and tighten it on here Oh, you gotta see this. Okay, look I might have to use this to help clean out my canal because watch this I gotta go for a test drive now Oh, that came out so good. Oh, okay. Let's go. We got a test drive Uh, where am I gonna go? I don't know. Okay Wait a minute. I still have to connect the steering. All right. Hopefully it's really easy to connect Oh, this is already got a hole right here put a bolt through I kind of want to trim some of this off though Yeah, that would be good It might even be good to put a hole a little further up. Oh hacksaw. All right I got it. I probably don't even need to screw well. Oh, you gotta stick your spot. Come on Doing with my steering is I just slide that on Call it good enough All right, I want to I need it to be easy to get off Uh, because I don't want to leave that on when I lift the motor Right now this hole is a little tight Loose the upper bit. Well, that's what I call some steering right there Well, man, that was great. Now it keeps my wires up there. I should have done that ages ago No, I just wiped off my camera lens. I had some grease on there. I think that's better Right ocean Hey, let's see what's going on Doing a bit of reversing back there


So could the furan cleavage site have been a, could it be a result of a natural mutation? Yes, it could. There's no question that that's true too. There is a case of a virus, not a very closely related one, that appeared to evolve a furan cleavage site in the laboratory. What happened was that there were some very rare variants that had it already. And you know, this is right in the middle of the spike gene. The spike gene mutates a lot, but it is an insertion. That is to say, it's a chunk of text that got put in somewhere. It's 12 base pairs long. So it's 12 letters of text in the genome.  You know, it's not a question of just changing one letter here and one letter there. You can get a furan cleavage site by changing one letter here and one letter there. But this didn't happen this way because you can see the sequence. It's exactly the same in all the closely related viruses or pretty well exactly the same up until that point. And then suddenly there's a gap in all the other ones. And there's a sequence in SARS-CoV-2. And by the way, you could put such things in without leaving any trace. I mean, genetic engineering of a seamless kind has become routine these days. So to what extent, what would somebody who thought this was a natural occurrence, what would they say to counter that? I mean, this is not because this is not obviously definitive proof that this was tinkered with. Completely right. There is no definitive dispositive proof either way. I mean, all we need is an infected animal from before the outbreak and suddenly the story changes or a laboratory experiment report that shows that this experiment was done. Either of those things would be dispositive. We haven't got either of those things. Yeah, we're now just going to say what Christian Anderson said about the furan cleavage site when it was first raised as an issue was, don't worry, we'll soon find relatives out there in the wild that have this. Come on, we only know of a few of them. Well, we now know of a whole lot more. We know these Laotian ones, we know a couple from Cambodia, we know one from Thailand, we know others from southern Yunnan. There's even one from Japan, although it's not very closely related at all. And none of them have this yet. So the more we discover that don't have this, the less good a prediction it sounds that don't worry, we'll find one with this feature. One of the things that struck me about what the evidence you presented in the book is the extent to which both the Chinese and the EcoHealth Alliance seem to resist A, providing information, B, when they provide information, it seems to be partial.  It seems like what do you think the motivation is? What is going on here, particularly for a US-based group who should be accountable, that gets obviously grants from the NIH and from other government entities, you'd think they would be accountable or somebody would hold them accountable? Well, it would be pretty devastating for their reputation, for their funding and everything. And I understand that. Just imagine, the purpose of the work they were doing was to avert the next pandemic. That was the job. They said, give us lots of money, and we will go out there and sample viruses from bats all across Southern China and Southeast Asia, and we will find the ones that threaten to start a pandemic because they're on the brink of being able to infect human beings. And that will be very useful because then we'll be able to test for them. We'll be able to tell you when an outbreak is happening that can turn into a pandemic. We'll be able to stop it in its tracks. Now at the very least, that project failed. It did not predict or prevent this pandemic. At the worst, it may have caused this pandemic. And that is something that is simply unthinkable to these people. It's not impossible that it happened, but it is unthinkable. They don't want to think it. And I understand that. But it's not our job to worry about how they feel about it. Our job is to find out what happened. But you would think that they know, right? At least the Chinese know one way or the other what causes it. If three people in the lab got sick in November, if that's true, then somebody knows that if they had been working on a virus and doing these gain-of-function research, we'll talk about that in a minute, then they would know that they had done that research and were trying to tinker with it. But we're getting nothing. Well, there's a database with 22,000 entries in it, 15,000 of them from bats. These are samples and sequences of viruses, mainly collected from bats over several years. It exists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. It was accessible online, although some of it was password protected until the 12th of September, 2019. And at two in the morning on that date, it went offline. And it's never been accessible since. Now, the purpose of that database, as I say, was to give us a bank of information that would help us in the event of a pandemic. Well, which pandemic are they waiting for to bring that back online and tell us? Now, when you ask Peter Dazak, the president of the EcoHealth Alliance, whether he has asked his close colleague and friend, Xi Jinping of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, to release that database, he says, oh, I haven't asked her for that, but I know what's in it and it's of no relevance. And then all the more reason to release it. If it proves that there was no virus in that database that is at all closely related to SARS-CoV-2, fine, show us it. What are you waiting for? Is it because you want patents on the diagnostic tests for future viruses or something? Thank you for listening or watching The Iran Book Show. If you'd like to support the show, we make it as easy as possible for you to trade with me. 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