This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network I am assuming this is in celebration of our second to Dinger Tuesday of the year But all 30 MLB teams are in action for this Tuesday So a lot of options across the bed slip over a Fandall sportsbook for today We're gonna dive in to the MLB action of Fandall sports But can let you know my favorite bets for a Fandall for today welcome on into covering the spread That's right here on the Fandall podcast network and Fandall research My name is Jim Sonis. I am a managing editor of digital media for a Fandall research here to break down Tuesdays MLB betting action. 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And I talked already on the solo shot about my favorite bets for Dinger Tuesday for tonight If you want full thoughts on not just today's slate You can get all my favorite props each day over on the Fandall research podcast feed by listening to the solo shot So talked about that there, but there is also another bet in that game that I like So I think we can do a same-game parlay at Fandall sports book for these two bets The Dinger Tuesday bet I liked the most was Matt Olson plus 3 20 to hit over on a Fandall sports book And I'm also showing value on the braids money line Currently at minus 1 90 perilous together at Fandall sports book the same game parlay is plus 374 The rational be an Olson is he's facing Adrian Houser who does let up a lot of hard contact good overall picture I think but Does let up our contact does let up five balls Specifically to lefties Matt Olson is among the best power hitting lefties in all the baseball plus 3 20 to me is a pretty good number Of course if that Olson goes deep that's going to increase the odds that the Mets win this game And I show value on that leg individually. That's minus 190 for the Mets The braids are pitching or minus 190 against the Mets. I should say braids running We know the Lopez who is Rebecoming a starter this year, which is a little scary because pitched pretty well in the bullpen But that he was in the bullpen for a reason back in the day Now the first half of Lopez did go well went six innings and allowed just one run But it was a revenge game against the White Sox So grain assault there given that the offense not that great for the White Sox With that said he's facing the Mets here Which is still a plus matchup frame as he tries to get his sea legs back underneath him as a start of the Mets Have a 93 WRC plus against righties on their current active roster since the start of last year now That active roster did put up a lot of runs in last night's game they won that one eight to seven and it's possible they Continue to outperform expectation to least based on my numbers going forward It's also possible that we're now the Lopez does struggle, but if we look at this matchup My model shows value in the Braves in general Despite the fact that I view Adrian Houser as being the better pitcher than we know the Lopez other factors Strongly favor the Braves the relief options favor the Braves the hitting favors the Braves as well So even though I think Houser is a better pitcher and my model thinks that too It does still show value in the Braves money line at minus 190 Now I mentioned before there is a correlation between The home run for Olson and the money line for the Braves Vandal knows that if you were to pair these two bets together kind of Independent each other it'd be about plus five seventy as the the odds and we're getting a plus three seventy four So you are paying a pretty heavy tax in order to pair these two bets together But again, that's there for a reason because they do correlate. Well, Olson hits a home run the odds of Braves When this game in general go up and I already have in this being pretty big favorites to this game to begin with So I think it's a worthwhile tax personally I think the same game probably a plus three seventy four does make a lot of sense And that's where I'll go for the first bet for tonight is Olson home run plus Braves money line But that is plus three seventy four That fan dual sportsbook for tonight The second bet that I have value on for day also relates to a bet We discussed over on the solo shot Olson was the primary Dinger Tuesday bet for me today But the other one that I should value in was Lane Thomas Lane Thomas playing in the nationals versus Giants game Thomas right now plus six thirty two good deep in this game this one I'm going to play individually but I think I want to go with the over in this game between the nationals and the Giants over is minus one fifteen it is a poor park for hitting and You have to take that into account But my model does and it still shows value in the over here over eight runs again minus one fifteen I'm in the process of developing a Run total model right now and that run total model has the scheme at eight point five nine runs It's not a big gap But it does help we get a push on an over and again It's harder for a game to land an even number of runs because if it's a four four tie or whatever It goes extras and they got to break that tie at some point so Couple advantages working in our favor when it comes to this total setting at exactly eight runs versus eight and a half The starters here have their flaws Josiah Gray starting for the nationals and we've got Kyle Harrison starting for the Giants both those starters let up walks and let up hard contact and fly balls Josiah Gray 13 earned runs across two starts Kyle Harrison Walks a lot of guys let's up hard contact and fly balls He does get strikeouts to compensate for that's not a bad picture But there's issues there and the the Giants bullpen is pretty good But the nationals is not and that's defense is pretty rough as well So there are a lot of factors pushing us towards the over here despite the fact It's not the world's best offense is not the world's best part now The Giants pretty good against righties 108 WRC plus on their current active roster since the start of last year. So That's that's a plus there too that total I mentioned of 8.59 Does account for the fact this park is below average and for a lot of park this time of year You have to adjust for a temperature as well because they will be at a lower temperature now than their baseline across the entire year But for San Francisco, that's not the case because it's 60 degrees for tonight And that's actually about average when it comes to Expectations for a San Francisco as you get into the summer months as well so I think what we'll see in this game is a lot of base runners with the potential for Crooked numbers via long balls because of the two pitchers in this game You could decide to lump in the Thomas from a home run if you wanted to again I like that bed individually and these bets do play well together because again We need seven more runs. We were to pair them together if you go With the over in plus 6 30 that's plus 8 54 for a same game probably a fan of sports But I don't mind that personally but prefer to play them straight up given that the Thomas from Ron is plus 6 30 It's a pretty good number to begin with and the fact that it is still San Francisco So if I hit the Thomas bet, I'd like to hit the entire bet and win that bet So personally, I'll play these straight over eight runs for nationals and giants and stick with Lane Thomas as The the home run bet over on the solo shop But if you want to pair them together you can definitely do so just on my personal preference for tonight The final bet where I'm showing value for today is in this twins versus Dodgers game and right now in faddle sportsbook the twins money line is plus 160 and I think that's a pretty good number Given the fact the twins are not a bad offense and they are at home for this game now granted They're facing a very stout Dodgers team So got a downgrade for that Tyler Glass now starting for the Dodgers looked really good as most recent star So there is a reason that the market is a bit lower on the twins I just think it's a bit too low right now the implied odds at faddle sportsbook for the Twins right now thirty eight point five percent my model has them at forty three percent and when you account for home field That's going to tell you that hey the Dodgers are a lot better team in this specific matchup than the twins are But we're getting compensated for that with where the market is at right now The twins are starting to leave Arland who had some better underlying numbers than his results last year They three point seven seven skill interactive era versus a four point six three era right now That's explainable you're not going to expect his skill interactive era to be in line with his era because he led up a lot of hard contact That's a skill and it's an issue. That's why it's expected the array is five four point five eight but it does seem like Varland's trying to combat that because He's adding in a curve ball this year. He's also using a sinker a tiny bit like three percent in his first start I'm not sure if that'll translate But he did get some ground balls in his first start this year the results still were not very good But the biggest issue for Varland was hard contact last year the bad at ball numbers of the plate discipline numbers are pretty good And if you can get the bad at ball numbers to be a little bit better He could ascend from being a below average starter to being okay as a starter And if you get an okay starter at home with a plus 160 money line for an offense that can hit the ball pretty well I think that's pretty tough to turn down So even with Varland being projected as a below average starter by my numbers I do still show value in the twins money line again and currently plus 160 Have a dual sportsbook. So I think the twins are good value here 43% to win by my numbers and I do agree with what the model is saying here So we'll take the twins as home underdogs against the Dodgers plus 160 the number on that right now over at Fandall sportsbook Didn't want to run through briefly the other bets recommended over on the solo shot this morning Just in case you don't get time to listen to both these shows. I understand that that's definitely reasonable Wanted to at least talk about the other ones in case you can't get to that show as well So talked about the Olson home run a plus 320 the Lane Thomas home run a plus 630 Other bets I like for today were a couple of strikeout unders a sunny gray Pitching for the Cardinals making his first start this year skipping a rehab start to make this one He's gonna go 65 pitches according to their manager And he's still a four and a half strikeouts at Fandall sportsbook under his minus 134 that has been creeping down It was minus 130 earlier on I something there's value in the under based on the fact that gray Will go just 65 pitches for this game for tonight again that comes to the manager This is not like conjecture, but he skipped his rehab starts They said okay will allow you to start this one instead and they're gonna restrict into 65 pitches So sunny gray under four and a half strikeouts minus 134 that is right now over at Fandall sportsbook Other one that I talked about over on the other show was Patrick Sandoval's under on strikeouts Right now the under for Sandoval at five and a half strikeouts is plus 102 This one's creeping against me was minus 102 earlier on today now to plus 102 But the thought process and being under on Sandoval is that he's throwing through fewer sliders right now Not as highest to strikeout pitch but still a pitch that does generate some whiffs So coming back on the slider instead throwing a couple more forcing fastballs And that's not a trade-off you want if you're looking purely at strikeouts He's also facing a raised team that is pretty good against lefties a 130 WRC plus for them against lefties since the start of last year Strikeout rate better than average for them against lefties to a 21.6% So it's a tough matchup for Sandoval. He's throwing fewer sliders than he was before letting up a Lot of walks as well and facing a tough team So I like the under on Sandoval five and a half at plus 102 So to recap all the recommendations across the entirety today Olson home run plus 320 Compare that with the Braves money line a minus 190 for a same game probably a plus 374 Like Lane Thomas to hit a home run at plus 630 also like the over in that game at eight runs minus 115 For the Nationals and the Giants sunny grander four and a strikeouts minus 134 Patrick Sandoval under four or five and a strikeouts at plus 102 and then the twins money line Plus 160 as they take on the Dodgers for today. Hopefully that's enough as you Take in a very fun slate for today as mentioned We're talking about home run props strikeout props total base props and stuff like that every weekday Over on the solo shot in addition to talking DFS if you want Strikeout props and home run props every single day check out the solo shot on the fan dual research podcast feed hit subscribe There but also find the solo shot on a fan dual TV plus That's all we had that here for today and covering the spread again back tomorrow talking about the Masters with Brandon Gadoula make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcasts to get that one as it goes live Tomorrow full in-depth breakdown of betting for Augusta If you have any questions for me, I am on Twitter at Jim Sonnis You can also find Fandall research on Twitter at Fandall research want to thank you all for tuning in for today Good luck with your dinger bets on Dinger Tuesday Enjoy the baseball and we'll talk to you once again tomorrow to preview the Masters This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network


And sometimes, this is so awesome. We are an open culture that is really, really, really cool. Everybody has something that they can tell you. It's on top of the Red Hat portfolio. Hi, and welcome to In the Cloud. I'm your host, Stu Miniman. You might notice I am not Chris Short. So first of all, I want to welcome the new people watching and the ones that have been watching the program before. Big thank you to Chris Short, who started not only the In the Clouds program, but the OpenShift TV that started about a year and a half ago when the pandemic happened. Chris has moved on to another job. I actually got to do a video interview with him before he left. And you can still see Chris, he's in the community, still on all the socials. But by way of introduction, if you haven't seen, I was a guest on In the Clouds about six months ago. I'm director of Market Insights with Red Hat, joined a little over a year ago. And before that, I'd spent a decade as a technology analyst and a host of a video program known as The Cube. So I'd done thousands of interviews, very familiar with Red Hat. Actually, back at Red Hat Summit 2014, I got this lovely Dev Nation hoodie. So no Red Hat, no the cloud ecosystem. And so I'm really excited to be able to come on as the guest here for In the Clouds. Just a quick level set on here. This show has predominantly been talking to Red Hat executives in the past. We will be adjusting a little bit. So we will still absolutely be talking to plenty of Red Hat executives. One of the things I'm always passionate about is the practitioners out there. One of the ways that you learn the most is hearing from your peers. So hoping to bring more of those customer stories. We've got a couple of those lined up for hopefully early in Q1, as well as we'll have partners, industry thought leaders, and the like. But in general, building on what we've done in the past on this show and the others in the Red Hat live streaming, which is we're talking about community. We're talking about open source. We're talking about some of the cool technologies. In this show, being in the Clouds is focused on all of those activities in the Clouds. So we're really excited to welcome. I have two guests for my first episode here. And we're going to be talking about developers. So we all know, I think, how important developers are. I always joke when we talk about this topic back into 2008, Steve Ballmer yelled it from a keynote stage. Developers, developers, developers. I mentioned back in 2014, Red Hat had had a developer show at Red Hat Summit. Back in 2013, I'd read a book called The New Kingmakers by Stephen O'Grady from Red Monk, talking about how important developers are. So I've got, as my first two guests, two of the leaders from the Red Hat developers team that is built out. So I want to welcome onto the program. First, I have Methune Dar, who joined Red Hat earlier this year. He's the vice president and general manager for that Red Hat developer business unit and a new member of his team, our organization, Ignacio Riesgo. He's the senior director of developer marketing and strategy. So I said, just joined weeks ago. So Methune and Ignacio, thank you so much for joining me. Absolutely. Happy to be here, Stu. Thank you so much, Stu. All right, so in the clouds, I myself spent a lot of time, as I said, in the Red Hat ecosystem, but cloud and cloud-native ecosystems. I'm looking forward to, in just a few weeks, I'll be going back to Amazon re-invent. First went to that back in 2013. Actually, it was the first time I got to interview Ashesh Badani, one of the senior executives here at the company. Ashesh is the one who we all bubble up to. Here at Red Hat, Microsoft Ignite just happened their virtual event. Google had their cloud event. So I've been to all of those. Both of you have some experience before you joined Red Hat, working for some of those cloud leaders. So Methune, maybe start by way of introduction. Tell us a little bit about your background, as I said. I dig back a little bit. You worked for Microsoft, a part of the Azure, and some of their developer activities. You worked for some of the SaaS providers. So give our audience a little bit about your background and what brought you to Red Hat. Absolutely, Stu. So I've now worked in the industry for over 22 years. And a big chunk of my time was spent at Microsoft, where I spent a decade. I was part of Microsoft Research, working on speech technologies. The first half of my tenure at Microsoft, the second half of my stint, I was in a division called as Developer Platform and Evangelism Division, PPE in short. We love acronyms. And as part of the PPE, I was in the Pacific Northwest leading developer relations and focused my efforts there. It was a cross-platform role, and evangelized pretty much everything that Microsoft platform had to offer. From there, I moved to Citrix, where I was in the office of the CTO, again working on platform efforts. And from there, I moved to Concur, again, building out an evangelism team. And post-Concur, Concur got acquired by SAP. I was there also leading strategic communications along with evangelism. And after Concur, I was with a company called Hear Technologies. Here is a location services company where we built location services. And if you have a car, guaranteed the map within your navigation system is probably powered by here. And from there, I joined Red Hat because as the world is getting modernized, and this has been true, especially now because of the pandemic, when everything is getting modernized and enterprises are moving forward and realizing that a hybrid cloud strategy and a multi-cloud strategy at that is at the heart of that transformation. There's no other company that offers the best of everything, and where you can have your cake and eat it too. And that's where Red Hat is. And there's a tremendous opportunity from an open source perspective as well, where we are engaging developers and bringing the best of open source into Red Hat through to our customers. And that's what I was passionate about. That's what I've been working on for over 20 years now. So I thought I'd be able to connect all the dots and join Red Hat. Awesome. Thank you, Mathun, for that introduction. Ignacio, you have lived many places throughout the world. You came most recently from AWS, but like Mathun, you also had some background with Microsoft. So give us a little bit of way of introduction of yourself. Thank you, Stu. Yeah, I also have been a while. I mean, I have been over 25 years in the industry. As you say, I started in as a director. Honestly, my background was a graphic designer, and at that point in time, I started working with technology. So I joined Apple at that point in time in Spain, in Madrid, working with the credit markets and doing a bit, since has been always a bit of the same that has been between the technology and communication. So I joined Apple, I stayed there for 11 years, working and starting to work with developers, teaching them how to use the technologies. At that point in time, it was completely new for a disruptive market like newspaper and creative production. Then after that, I joined Nokia, where I moved to London. And Nokia, as you know, probably Nokia was the leader at that point in time of the mobile industry, but they have a problem. That was the developer ecosystem. There were no applications for the phones. So I joined that in order to work on that area. That was a fun ride. Unfortunately, I was not even aware at that point in time that Apple was going to be the leader because when I was at Apple, the iPhone was not even there. So, but that was fun. I mean, we started in London, then we moved into Silicon Valley in order to make that transition to convince developers. And then after that, Microsoft bought the company. So I continue working with developers inside Microsoft. Again, about the developers, I've said everything about the developer ecosystem, what you were talking about. Balmer staying in the stage, developers, developers, developers. So has been kind of a mantra forever. And then after that, about three, four years ago, I joined AWS. At that point was when the Kubernetes was really starting. So I joined the team in order to launch EKS. Three years later, here we are with Kubernetes as a standard and EKS as one of the main products in the market. So that is the reason why very recently, one month ago, I joined Red Hat to work with Methune in order to develop the ecosystem here at Red Hat. Yeah, no, Ignacio, I love in Methune both. You gave a little bit of the history what's going on. Yeah, Ignacio, some people out there, do they remember Apple before the iPhone and what are the transformation they've gotten on there? Most of us in the tech industry, we watched the real transformation. I mean, Microsoft's been a leader in this space for decades, but was a little old and not the buzz of the discussion until the last few years, Satya Nadella really reinvigorated that company despite a lot of the underlying pieces happening there. So I guess I wanna talk a little bit about the developer team. So Methune, you run this organization, you brought Ignacio on there. I wanna get a little bit of kind of the personal as well as your organization. So if you can tell us, just philosophically, you both have been working with developers. What's the thing that kind of is driving your mission and how does that intersect with the role here at Red Hat? That's a great question too, and then the deep one at that, let me think about this. So let's start with the philosophical, what drives me to this job every single day. Look, I mean, for the 22 years, I've either been a developer marketing to developers or building stuff for developers. That's my entire career. And I think if there was one word I could use, that would be empathy. If we've all spent some time on the coding land all the way from C++ and using VI editors to now using some of the best tools in the world for developers, I think we have come a long way. So for me, making developers productive and having that empathy to understand what developers need and how we can make them more productive and effective, I think that's what drives me to be in this job and every other job that I've been at. So let me give a little, with that context, let me give a little insight into the developer business unit at Red Hat, developer and tools business unit at Red Hat. Between engineering, the BU, which includes product management, product marketing or developer marketing in this case, and then all of the finance people, all of the other supporting functions like documentation, advocates, all of them. We are a little over 400 people within the developer and tools organization. And we are primarily focused on developer productivity and developer engagement. So all the programs that we drive, all the tools that we build are aimed at getting developers excited about our platform. For instance, a big chunk of us were working over the last quarter to get REL9 beta launched yesterday. So if you guys haven't seen, head on to developer.redhat.com and learn about the REL9 and you'll see a small flavor of how we work with the various business units within Red Hat.  So we have the hub and spoke model where we have the hub and we connect into every other spoke within Red Hat. And it's, I love my job and I'm super excited with over five million developers between the Red Hat developers and the J-BOSS community. We have a tremendous engagement and a lot of developer mindset. And we look forward to continue working and getting our tools far and wide into the hands of developers. Yeah, Ignacio would love your take kind of on the same question. And I guess, looking back, you worked for Apple, for Microsoft, for Amazon, your initial oppressions also of Red Hat, which is a little bit different from some of the other companies. We're not as big of a name. We understand, we partner across those companies, open source of cross-driving, but yeah, your personal philosophy and build on what Mathun talked about there for the organization and your role there. Yeah, I mean, for me is, if I try to summarize it's about getting out of your comfort zone. After traveling and living in different countries, working with a lot of different people, it's about, okay, it doesn't matter what you know today, that is going to change in the technology industry. So for good or bad, if you like what you are doing today and you are pretty comfortable with the technology that you are working on today, be prepared, you need to understand what's going on because it's going to change. So be prepared for the change. And here, I know that people don't like to change, but change is mandatory, especially in our industry. So how do you handle that change? Basically what you try to do and a bit of what Mithun was talking about is, first of all, you surround by people that are even better than what you are.  So here in our team, we are surrounded by incredible engineers. I mean, they are super deep technical people with a lot of expertise. So what we try to do also in our team is compliment them, work with them much more on the communication needs of how we are going to talk about all of those technologies that they create, how we are going to explain all of that to developers. Also, right now we are in a very competitive industry where we have a number of players launching technologies. So it's very difficult to stay on up to date. So we are helping them in order to understand what they need to learn, help them to learn it, be prepared for what is coming next. So that's why the importance, a bit of what Mithun was saying about the importance of open source, the importance of collaboration, and then the innovation that is happening in the industry. I mean, that has been always happening. So this is not something new. That's why I always say, well, if you don't like what you are working today, it doesn't matter, it's going to change. If you like it, it doesn't matter, it's going to change. So looking forward for those changes coming. Yeah, there's just some great points there. They're absolutely, you know, the only constant we know in our industry is the pace of change. Look, I wanted to share just from my personal standpoint, you know, that was one of the things that drove me, you know, to look at and join Red Hat. I've worked in the cloud and cloud native ecosystems.  And really, if you look at what Red Hat has done for more than two decades, it is dealing with the chaos and that pace of change.  You know, there's so many thousands of lines of code that get updated every month. You know, who helps put that together and make sure that enterprises can take advantage of it. Well, that's what Red Hat's been doing for decades. You look at the Jboss space, you look at the Kubernetes space where I spent a lot of time. It's the same kind of, you know, chaos out there where so many people are contributing and putting the pieces together. There are so many options out there that who can help bring them all together? Well, that's really been Red Hat's strength in what we've done. And personally, I love to, you know, I think Ignacio, you said it, pulling together some of the technology and the business type of pieces. You know, that's where I've loved being that it's conversations like this where you wanna understand the strategic pieces and then there's a lot of cool tooling and technology and things underneath that we'll deal with. So I wanna, when we talk about developers, one of the things anybody that's been in this space is developers are not a monolithic culture. There are so many different types of developers. So the person that might care about the REL9 beta, you know, might not be the same person that's, you know, building the new applications. I saw Red Hat has a lot of connections to various developer groups. So, Methune, help us understand a little bit, you know, what is the developer landscape look like?  What are you seeing? What are the conversations you and your team are having there? Yeah, that's a great question again. You know, see, from my perspective, a developer is a developer, right? That is, the way I look at it is there is a nine to five developer where you're developing for your work and may you may be working on a constrained set of technologies and on the platform that your work has endorsed and your work needs. And then your five to nine developer where you're developing for passion, where you're learning new things, where you're learning a new platform, where you're learning a new language maybe or exploring, right? So for me, the whole landscape between an enterprise developer and sort of what's called a long tail developer is sort of a big blur. And in between you have, in between that spectrum, you have all various other developer segmentations that are quite popular. Like, oh, this is a startup developer. Oh, you have a developer working on more, particularly if you want to dice it, oh, this is a cloud developer, a mobile developer, a front end developer, back end developer. But at the end of the day, the core tenets of being a developer is going to be the same. And what drives them is going to be the same, right? What Ignacio and I and others on the team drive to is just the same.  At the end of the day, we want you to be productive. And Ignacio, you and I both worked at Microsoft while the segmentations were there. And of course there's different platforms, different products that get offered to various developers in that segmentation. We all strive for one thing, right? Keep it simple, make it effective, and make sure the access to your product and technology is completely friction-free so they can get started, they can be empowered to use your platform and be successful. And those three key tenets, Stu, I keep it close to my heart and we try to bring it through across everything that we do. Yeah, Ignacio, I'm wondering if we can build on that. So some of the jokes I look out there is how do you market to developers? How do you sell to developers? The answer is you don't because they don't wanna be bothered by you. They want easy access. What Mithun said, do you keep it easy? Self-service, I'll figure these things out and everything, but of course there's some nuance and some room in there for the activity and of course there needs to be some feedback loops and communities and open source play into this. So give us a little bit as to what you're seeing in that space, what's the latest as to how do developers want to be interacted with? Well, I remember in one of the presentations, obviously when you are every day surrounded by them, you spend some time with them, having lunch, et cetera, and they are very open with Ignacio, please. No one single is like about marketing. No one single is like about how well the company is going, how much money you are making, thank you so much. I just want, basically, you just need to explain me three things. First, talk me about technology, train me. Help me to understand for what I am going to use that technology, what are the solutions that I am going to find if I use that particular technology. Help me to understand the differentiation between each of those solutions because the challenge that they have is there are so many things that they need to learn about. You need to know where they are going to invest in time. The first thing, so be super clear, super simple about, today we are going to talk about this, this is going to solve this and this is why you need to learn it. Second thing is, help me to understand what is the problem that we are solving here. There are a lot of different problems, but you need to tell them, okay, this is for artificial intelligence or this is to change the CI CD, your process to publish code. So help them to frame for what they are going to use that particular technology. And the third thing that they ask you is give me a community because when you are developing, always you have problems, always. And it's going to be difficult for you to find that particular piece of code. And sometimes also when you are coding the problem is you are so focused on the problem that you are completely unable to see anything beyond your sight. So the community is bringing you that, the community is bringing you solutions that you are not even thinking about and that's the only thing that they are asking you. Give me that community, other developers that are already working on that. So I know what to do and where to ask and who to ask in order to solve that particular problem. All right, so Ignacio, I've got a follow up for you. Since you came very recently from a partner of Red Hat, you were working with Red Hat, you've got a bit of that outside view as to that ecosystem, that community. So obviously, AWS is a big important player out in the marketplace today. I remember going back to the earliest Amazon re-invents. It was very much the hoodie crowd. Developers were there, they were excited about it. So what did, what did you see about what Red Hat was doing, how it was working to mature and work with developers and work with that cloud ecosystem? That, you know, I know we're relatively early in the deep partnership with Amazon with the Red Hat OpenShift Service on AWS, but it had been a relationship that had been building for a number of years. Well, I was on the other side of the table when we launched together a Rosa product, Red Hat OpenShift on AWS. Literally, I was doing my part launching that product to developers at AWS. That was my starting point to contact with Red Hat, understanding what they were doing. And the biggest learning for me was the incredible position that they have in open source. That is something that you cannot compete with. Okay, and second, the fantastic position that they have in the private data centers. So being true that obviously at AWS we are absolutely focused on the cloud, the public cloud, but the Red Hat has an incredible position, especially on customers about the private data centers. So what really attracts me is that challenge is how we are going to move from that private data centers into the public cloud. That is a challenge that a lot of customers have. If you, just to give you one data point, 2.6 is basically the number of public clouds that we use today by organizations. And today, 95% of customers have both public and private clouds environment already installed. So the challenge is we are really starting on that journey. We are literally starting from the journey to move all those customers from today, those private data centers, moving them into the public cloud or keeping that hybrid cloud where you are managing both private data centers but you are also using part of the services in the public cloud. And if you think about the future also that is going to evolve into the edge. That is you will have inside data centers, you will have usage or part of the usage in public cloud and then you will have also services on distributed edge. So the combination and that journey that again, we are literally starting that journey is what really attracts me about Red Hat. Mithun, I got to meet Ignacio actually in person at KubeCon which is really nice and a number of your team members were there. The ecosystem, the open source communities, I mean at KubeCon, I know there are at least dozens of projects that we were personally involved in and helping to drive as a company. I mean, it's hundreds if not thousands of projects. We've got dozens of key partners, hundreds of other partners. We've got a cloud marketplace with over 150 integrations just on OpenShift and, you know, REL has even more. So, you know, you've got a team of 400 but that's a good size team but it's not an infinite team. So how do you look at that ecosystem, the open source? What's the role that Red Hat plays? What are the levers that we're moving to help drive solutions forward for our customers? Yeah, you know, every project that we are working on, you know, we leverage the power of the open source, right? Open source is the way of development for us at Red Hat. And we work with the community. We get the community insights. We make sure that community has a say in this and that's a big differentiator for us. You know, take our, you know, OpenShift GitOps story that we have. The CI CD part. It's built on Argo and Tecton. And that's just an example of how the upstream projects, we are working with the upstream projects, making sure that the upstream projects are better than we take it, we put our signature wrapper around it, we offer support and then we introduce it to the enterprises and to the developers. And in this, there is a really perfect harmony between working with the open stream, working with the enterprises staying in the middle, making sure that, you know, the transaction goes between both entities in a seamless way.  Or all the other products that we offer as a Red Hat portfolio, we are working with open source. And that's the power of collaboration and that's the power of bringing the community into your core development model and engaging. And, you know, for the longest time, we have been the leaders at that, right? And now every other company is realizing that, oh, this is such a good model, you know, be it Confluent, be it Databricks or any other company right now, including Microsoft for a certain extent, you know, they're realizing that this is a winning model and this is how we get everyone to participate and, you know, build the ecosystem, make the ecosystem overall stronger, you know. That's what entices me and, you know, that's what makes our offerings so much more stronger and makes it more aligned with what our customers want and what we give. Ignacio, you mentioned a very good point about, you know, how the whole enterprise world is being modernized and as part of that modernization, people are realizing that, oh, there's no one single entity that works best for everything that we need to do. 2.6 clouds, you know, that's a great data point. I think IDC got that. From that 2.6 data clouds, what are we doing to make sure that the developers get the best multi-cloud development experience? Oh, you also mentioned on-prem and off-prem, what are we doing and how can we improve the developer experience for a hybrid cloud environment? So this is, you know, this is the core at what we are working on from a developer point of view, from a developer tools point of view to make this better. Yeah, a lot to unpack there, Mathun. I wish we had a couple of hours to dig into it, but, you know, one of the key things you talked about there is there's this balancing that companies need to do. Everything's changing, yet one of the hardest things with any change is you had to talk 2.6 clouds. It's the skill set. How do I get the people and how do I ramp up on a cloud? There's certain base things that are similar between the clouds, but if I want to really take advantage of the innovation of the cloud and the ecosystem built around them, there's a lot of work, you know. So, you know, I guess even, you know, Mathun, you know, when I look from a Red Hat standpoint, it's not just, you know, oh, well, rail works everywhere and so therefore we can be in all the clouds. There's deep engineering works. Ignacio talked about some of the activity going on with Amazon. We've been working with Azure for years. We work across, you know, Alibaba and lots of other clouds. There's base things that make it, you know, kind of minimal viable, but then there's real engineering work that happens. As companies look out there, you know, developers tend to build, you know, here's my developer tool chain.  And it's funny.  It's like my number one thing. I can't go anywhere without it. I've used it forever. And I was like, cool, how long have you been doing that? And he was like, it's been 18 months and I've used it.  So that balance of I want consistency, but I need to take advantage of new environments. That's one of the things that, you know, from a Red Hat standpoint, we try to give you that with our platforms. But, you know, how did the, Mithun, what are you seeing in the customer things? What are we doing to help that environment to keep up?  And when I look forward three to five years, they're going to be even more hybrid. So, you know, what are you seeing and how are we helping to, you know, address that and work and partner with our customers on it? Yeah. There are two dimensions to this question, right? One, the first dimension is meeting where the developers are at the tool chain. Look, we don't say like we just offer Eclipse and Che and come work with us and that's it, right? We, one of our most popular plugins is VS Code. You know, we have tens of millions of downloads on the VS Code plugin for OpenShift that we have developed and it's very, very popular. We also have our own code ready suite of tools that we offer, which is also very popular and used by a different set of customers. But the point is, you know, let's meet the developers where they are, you know? Like you mentioned, some of these things are very relevant to developers. They are very, they adhere to one set and then unless you showcase and tell them, hey, there's a better way, there's an easier way, there's a faster way to do this. And when you can show them, you know, you can win the developers over. But at the end of the day, it is about making the developer productive. Again, this is why it comes, the empathy piece comes up and you know, you need to ensure that the developers stay productive and stay effective in doing that job. The second part of this answer is, you know, the programs, right, as we are launching as technology is evolving so rapidly in the developer space, we need to make sure that the developer education, so to speak, you know, the awareness of it becomes super simple, right? How, so this is where our advocates play a fantastic role. This is where a big part of our team that's led by Ignacio plays a fantastic role in getting information about blogs, through blogs, getting information through hands-on tutorials, having instructor-led labs. You know, we have so many varieties and you know, over six to eight million developers come to the developer website every single year. How do we keep them productive? How do we again, you know, make sure that the content that we are developing is targeted at those developers, you know, and make it so simple that they can understand and get started. And the programs that we build around that to get the developers educated on all the latest offerings that we have and others in the industry have, you know, all of these things play a vital role. The developer education and the developer sort of tools go hand-in-hand, they're two sides of the same coin. I don't know if you want to add anything else that ignores you. Yeah, the only thing that I would add is, if I try to summarize also what are the needs, the challenges. Okay, so you have basically three type of big buckets when you talk to developers. That is, there are some developers that work in hybrid cloud infrastructure. So they need to build their foundation for the future. They know that they need to move part of the processes into the cloud, but they don't still are sure about what they need to move into the cloud, why they need to move into the cloud, the advantages, et cetera. So you need to explain then why it's important for them to keep what they are doing, but also starting to think about what they can do on top of that on the cloud. Then they have, you have the second type of developers that are those developers that are because they are new. They don't have any on-premise. They are cloud native development. So for them, you just need to explain how to accelerate, how to do application development in cloud-only environment, how to do innovation, how to do delivery. So those are the core cloud native developers that they don't need to know anything. For example, a lot of startups, they are just starting with cloud environments. And then the third type of problems that we are trying to solve is the automation and management. You have a number of developers that normally they are in the DevOps area that they need to manage automation. They need to manage, they need to make repetitive process and they need to manage how the other two departments are managing. They need to ensure stability. They need to ensure security. They have other needs. So you need to create and hear the good parties. At Red Hat, we have a very good portfolio to address those kind of three big buckets of problems. We start with the on-premise environment with Red Hat Enterprise Linux and then you have a whole portfolio of different products. And probably this is one of the biggest challenges that we have any technology company. You launch products and more products and more products, you launch and I always make the comparison if you let me to make a bit more of a personal comparison. I always say that we talk about our babies so the engineering is the father of a baby that they went to launch into the market. And when I have that, I always say, okay, I need to explain, yeah, your baby is great, congratulations. I need to explain why we are creating this baby. What is the business problem that this baby is going to solve and how that baby connect with other babies, the rest of the babies that we have also in the company. Because if not, yes, your baby is absolutely great but nobody will understand how that baby fits in the rest of the family. So creating that environment or how that new baby have that new feature, have that new capability is fitting in the overall portfolio is absolutely critical of if not developers, they just cannot follow you. So that's our key job here at Red Hat in charge of the developer program is to ensure that whatever we launch, we explain clearly how, why we are launching it, how that launch is fitting in the rest of the portfolio and what is the problem that developers, why the developers need to learn about that technology and what is the problem that they are going to solve.  So most of the things we're working on were a project that Red Hat got involved with. Every once in a while, there's something that we start, but when you've got another project that we participate in, you've got usually a built-in community that's rallying around and had that problem to start with.  You need to be able to continue down your path and hopefully you can extend and expand to some of the new technologies, you know, heck even, you know, watching today, we've got so much going on in our ecosystem, you know, the latest, you know, serverless technology just hit like 1.0 for OpenShift built off of Knative.  Most of these environments, we don't wanna send you down a path where you can't add and extend the new pieces on. All right, so we've had a great conversation here. I guess what I wanna do to kind of wrap up is I heard a little bit about some of your personal philosophies why you came to Red Hat, you know, when people, you know, come here and whether they're looking to, you know, potentially we have a job opening, you know, on jobs.redhat.com, we have lots of positions, you know, all three of us often have, you know, positions we're hiring for or we're partnering, you know, what are the things you're looking at, you know, those things that drive the relationships of people we wanna join our team and people we partner with out there? Mathun? You know, for me, honestly, the best part, it's 10 months now since I joined Red Hat, more or less the same for years. You know, one of the things I appreciate so much at Red Hat is the culture that we have, right? It's the culture of belonging, it's the culture of collaborating, it's the culture of openness that drives everything that we do at Red Hat. And it's been really fantastic. I'm loving every minute that I've been here and you know, I will be here for a long time. So that culture is a very, very big piece, you know, for me then I'm looking to hire people. You bring the right people in and you know, the right people will help you take you to the next level.  So it's part skills, part attitude, part temperament. That's how I look for when I'm hiring. Yeah, and yes, we have a lot of openings within the developer BU. Stu, I know you're hiring as well. So you have, I think two or three positions open on the marketing side. And yeah, we are looking for, you know, product managers. We are in the developer BU. We are looking for product managers. We are looking for marketing folks. We are looking for documentation. You know, there are 56 marketing roles that are open as we are transforming our entire suite. So a lot of good things happening. So head out to jalshotredhat.com and see, you know, what roles we have open. And if there's a connection that any three of us can make I'm talking on behalf of all of you, we'd be happy to connect and help you guys. Absolutely. Ignacio, your final closing words? Yeah, a bit of the same. For me, what that really attract is the culture. It's a very special culture. When you joined the company and probably, I don't know if you have already talked in previous about the memo list. The memo list is, I think that this is a perfect example of that open culture. At least I have never, never, ever been in a company where only the CEO was the one sending emails to the whole company. Here, anyone can send an email to the whole company. And I was like, wow, you can basically say whatever you want, that's good and that's bad. I mean, it's good because you hear a lot of opinions and I haven't been in a culture with more openness than that, never ever. I mean, the thing is that you need to manage that flow of thousands of opinions. But I think that that is deeply in depth with the open source culture. That is, you have a community where everyone is equal. And the company is very much like that. You have a community. It's true that there are a lot of roles and there are a lot of layers, but everyone is equally important and they play their part in the company. So I think that a lot of those values of open source translated into our company is what probably is absolutely unique about Red Hat. Yeah, Ignacio, just to echo what you were saying, the comment that I made having, I've worked with Red Hat a long time. I've worked with the cloud group for about eight years, but I first interacted. I was the product manager for Linux at a storage company two decades ago, back around the time that Red Hat was creating RHEL. And what I'd say is on the inside, Red Hat is even more Red Hat on the inside than what you see on the outside. If you mentioned the memo list, I'll mention for our audience out there, if you go watch, there's a TED Talk that our former CEO Jim Whitehurst did talking about how a junior engineer speaks up and he was like, oh my God, we're gonna fire that guy because he disagreed with our whole strategic direction. And it was like, no, everybody's like, hey, thank you. We didn't necessarily change our direction based on it, but you were encouraged and it's part of our job to speak up and let's make sure we get everybody's opinion. So I've seen even when we have interns come in, we want them fully participating, not just doing grunt work. And we've hired people through that process because we know especially the space where you live, developers, the new people with less experience often don't have preconceptions that those of us with a little more experience has. So balancing that knowledge, that experience, the new all comes in and that's kind of a unique culture that we have here at Red Hat. So I wanna thank you both, Ignacio and Methune. Thank you so much for joining us. Definitely, as Methune said, please reach out to any of us. We're easy to find out there. I'm so easy. If you hit me up on Twitter, I'm just at Stu. I'm on LinkedIn. I'll even share here my email if you just stewatredhat.com is really easy to get in touch with me. We've got lots of great episodes. I've got two more episodes here and before the end of the year in the 2021 and looking out at the editorial agenda for 2022. Our teams will be at many of the events virtually and starting to come back in person. So please reach out. Let us know what you'd like to see on the program. Any feedback you have for any of us, share the job postings that are out there. And until next time, I'm Stu Miniman and I wanna thank you for joining us in the clouds. Thank you all. Thank you.


you started this thing with five dollars yeah how did you do that when my neighbor knocked on the door and asked me to make cupcakes for all of her clients for the season I was sitting in my house with no electricity because we couldn't afford it we were living on a generator and I had five dollars left to my name and I had not secured food for the entire week we're a family of eight at the time well from New Orleans so I was confident that I could make something out of nothing and started just inventorying what I had I had some rice cornmeal I had seasonings I had rising ingredients here I was in my kitchen trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents and I was gonna make it this time


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Everyone knew there was going to be trouble from the moment Mike Donovan walked into the café and shouldered his way up to the bar. He glared at Kerry Braddock who was standing at his left. The crowd faded away from them and the noisy talk died down. Kerry didn't look at Mike.  Kerry, put your gun on the bar. Kerry turned slowly. Why should I?  You'll have to give me a better reason. I haven't got a gun myself. You can see that. We got some dissent on you and me. And I figured it better be with our fists. What's wrong, Mike? You won over $500 from me last night. That's right. I want my money back. No, Mike. You've won too much and too often. I'm a better poker player than you are. I've told you you should give up the game. I want my money back and I'll take it out of your hide. This gun says you won't.  Well, that makes you more than a cheat.  Just a second. Ben Meredith, as big as Mike, his blue eyes, cold as ice, step between the two men. You got this all wrong, Mike. You got the strength to break him in two.  What's more, I say carry down cheat.  What are you going to do about that? I'll show you. The fight was on and it was a battle between giants. Sergeant Preston could hear the yells of the crowd as soon as he reached town and so he drove straight to the cafe and stopped his team out in front. Okay. Come on, King. With a great dog by his side, he entered the cafe. It took the sergeant only a second to size up the situation. Stand aside. Let me through. He was recognized at once and the crowd opened up for him. Big Ben and Mike were slugging it out toe to toe. The sergeant didn't hesitate. He grabbed each of the men by the shoulder and pulled them apart. He held the two men in an iron grip. Break it up in the name of the law. It was the authority in his voice that made them drop their arms. Now, what's this all about?  He called a friend of mine a cheat. Better let us fight it out, Sergeant. No. If you fight it out to a finish, I'll have to take both of you to the hospital in Dawson and that's a long trip.  I'll arrest you for disturbing the peace. Now, Sergeant. Ben, get out of here. Okay. Okay, I'm going. Never mind the explanations, Mike, outside. All right, Sergeant. Good night. The arrival of the sergeant changed the temper of the men in town completely because he had brought a sack of mail with him and they spent the rest of the evening reading their letters and re-establishing a contact with the outside world. But the sergeant was worried about what he had seen when he entered the café and later that night, he asked Bill Random, the owner of the hotel, for an explanation. It wasn't just Ben and Mike, Bill. All of them in there were spoiling for a fight. There'd have been a free for all in another few minutes. We've had a tough winter, Sergeant. One blizzard after another. The men haven't been able to work their claims. They've been cooped up here in town and they're getting on each other's nerves. Nothing to do but drink and play poker. Nothing to talk about but gold. I know. Those who don't have any want it and those who do have it want more. Well, won't be long before the break-up comes and then we can all go back to work. I wish you could stay with us for a while, Sergeant. Why, I'm making a patrol. Just a few days. Might make all the difference. What are you afraid of? Well, anything can happen. Between Ben and Mike? Perhaps. They used to be good friends. What about Kerry Braddock? Well, he may not be big, but he doesn't like to be pushed around either. He doesn't cheat, I don't think. And he may shoot the next time someone accuses him of it. It's too bad we can't outlaw poker. Well, then they'd have nothing to do and that'd be worse. No, I'm sure Kerry doesn't cheat. Now, if it were a Harvey Brand... Well, if it were? He's a professional gambler. He hardly ever loses. Do you think he's in any danger of being shot? Not really. He always gives people a chance to get their money back. He'll take an IOU for any amount. Still, or... Still what? Oh, I guess I just don't like him. A fine thing when you start figuring your friends can turn into killers. I must be as jumpy as anybody else. I wish I could stay. We're a week, Sergeant. I have some medical supplies I have to take to the mission across the ridge. But I'll come back this way. I'll be back in a couple of days. That'll be fine. Maybe you can cure us of this winter sickness. We sure need a doctor. The sergeant drove out of town at daybreak the following day. But although he had stopped the fight between Ben and Mike, that wasn't enough to prevent the men from taking sides. Ben and Kerry had their adherents and Mike had his. The arguments as to who was right became more and more bitter. And that night, Harvey Brand listened to them attentively as he played poker in the cafe. When the game broke up, he walked down the street to the express office. The shutters were closed, but there was a light inside. He climbed the steps and opened the door. Johnny James, the manager, was behind the counter weighing out some dust. What do you want, Brian? Just dropped in to pay a friendly call. We missed you tonight. I, uh, had a work. Yeah, I can see you're still at it.  Yeah. What of it? I got the only decent safe in town. Does that make the dust safe, Johnny? What are you driving at? You don't hold yourself responsible for it, do you? I let him put it in the safe, that's all. I know, I know. In case of a robbery, you wouldn't have to make it good. It's a good, strong safe. Uh-huh. Whose dust you're weighing out, I see the problem. Hey, give me that bag! Carries, huh? How much is he short now? Why should he be short? You tell me, Johnny. I ought to punch you right in the nose. Yeah, but you won't, because you know you can't kid me. You've been losing a lot. I got your IOU for a thousand. And the night after you gave it to me, I saw you buying chips with dust.  Why don't you do it now? I ought to carry his dust. I'm not a thief! What do you call yourself then? Hey, how would you like it if I passed the word to everybody that they ought to check up on you, huh? What would you do if all the miners asked for that dust at the same time? A friend. He wouldn't do that. All I want is a chance to get even. Give me a break. Sure, all I want is my thousand dollars. I can't take any more from Kerry's point. Why not? With all this trouble, you might be leaving town any day. I've got to put back what I've taken already. Why, Johnny? Because if I don't, I... How could I get away with it? Why didn't you ask me that before, huh? I'll tell you, Johnny, it's very simple. It was Bill Random who discovered Johnny the next morning. Bill stopped the de-express office to inquire when the next sled was due from Dawson. The door was unlocked, but the office seemed to be empty. Hey! And then Bill heard someone behind the counter. He hurried around it, and there was Johnny lying on the floor, bound and gagged when Bill had freed him. What happened? I've been here all night. What happened, Johnny? I think the safe's been cleaned out. Really? I'm not sure what he took. I'll see. I just bought to leave. I put out the lamp and it stepped outside. Turned back to close and locked the door. Somebody cramped an armor on my neck. So tight it could hardly breathe. Go on. I want to get this open. Go on. What happened? It was awful strong. I couldn't fight any or I'd cut off my wind. Of course, when you're back inside the office and over here to the safe, you may be open. And then what? That's all I remember.  He doesn't seem to have taken much. No. The company money's all here. These are the folks the miners have left with me. They're all tagged. I'll check them over. By the time Johnny had checked the safe, the news of the robbery had spread through the town and the express office was crowded. Well, what's the verdict, Johnny? What's missing? As far as I can make out, there's only one poke gone. Whose? Yours, Kerry. So that's it. Come on, Johnny. Tell us who held you up. I don't know. I never saw his face. You heard him talk. Well, I didn't recognize his voice. He was big. Well, yeah, that's true. Well, that's enough. First he says I cheated him and then he steals my poke. Mine. Only mine. That's evidence enough for anybody. Where is he? Where is that thief and Irishman? You're talking about me? You know I am. Where is it? Where's my gold? Wrong. There's something wrong about this. I won't argue. I want my gold back. I haven't got it. Then go and get it wherever you put it. Now, wait, Kerry. This is a matter for the Northwest Mountain. It's a matter between Mike and me. I let Ben fight my battle night before last, but now I'm taking over. 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The Sergeant and King have gone after him.  It's been a long time now. The fire is much worse. I am afraid. There's no need to be afraid for King and the Sergeant. No, Father. Look, coming through the smoke there. There's the Sergeant. He's carrying a boy in his arms. It is true. He has found Napoleon. Heaven be praised. There he is, Father. Napoleon, how could you do such things? I did not mean to forget the gun, Father. I mean to run back into the fire. No, it is all right. We found it. The fire had only scorched it at us. There's no use to talking to him. We are so happy to see you. We must forgive you. Now run along and stay close to the others. We won't fail. I thank you, Sergeant. Napoleon's just as much a favorite with me as he is with the rest of you. Bill, what are you doing here? Well, I want you to come back to Gold Flats right away. But I can see you have your problems here. Will you stay and help? Of course. What are you going to do? The building's gone, but we've saved supplies and blankets. We'll build a big fire and fix up a shelter of pine boughs. That's all right for tonight, but what about tomorrow? I'll have to figure that out. As Bill worked with the Sergeant, he told him what had happened across the ridge. The Sergeant became thoughtful. Considering every angle of the case. And finally, when the children were sitting around the campfire eating their evening meal, he came to a decision. Bill, you believe that the main trouble with the men of Gold Flats is that they've had too much time on their hands? Absolutely right. Well, we're going to find work for idle hands to do. Of course. The mission's gone and there's no particular reason why it should be rebuilt here. Gold Flats would be a much better spot and there'll be shelter for the children there while a new mission's being built. You're going to take them across the ridge? They were born in the woods. They won't find that you're too hard. Well, let them sleep until dawn. Then we'll start out. Then we should be able to make the town before noon. That was a deadline carry set. Yes. We'll see how the men of Gold Flats act after they've adopted 20 little Indians. We'll see how much time they have for gunplay when they start building a new home for them. At noon the following day, the men of Gold Flats were expecting gunplay between Mike and Kerry. Instead, they saw a strange procession wind into town. The sergeant, Bill, Father Michelle, and 20 boys and girls. The procession headed straight for the hotel and marked inside. And by that time, the streets were crowded with men. A few minutes later, the sergeant stepped out on the porch and began to talk to them. Men, I suppose you'll wonder what this is all about. Well, the mission burned down yesterday and these children are without a home. I'm asking you who to build another one for them. That's right. I'm asking you to build a mission here in Gold Flats. There's a good spot at the mouth of the creek that isn't staked. There's plenty of lumber in the forest. Now, you've all built cabins for yourselves about building a home for these children. Good, I thought you'd agree to it. Where's Kerry Braddock? Right here, sir. Bill says you've had a lot of experience in building. Yeah, it was a contractor back in the States. Will you take charge? Sure. And you can get together with Father Michelle and decide what's needed. All right, men, go to work. Are you with me, boys? Right. I'm appointing you construction chief, Ben. Who's the best man to take charge of the lumbering crew? Well, there's only one man for that job, Kerry. It's Mike. Mike, where are you? Where's your gun? I'm giving it to the sergeant. Here, sergeant. Thanks, Kerry. Now, how about it, Mike? I'm willing to forget all about the gold until this job is done. Is it a deal? All right, why not? Will you bring the logs in? As many as you want. As fast as you can use them. That's a promise. Pick your men and bring those logs in. From that moment on, the town seized with activity. The site for the new mission was chosen and the ground laid out. The forest rang with the sound of axes. The shouts of the lumbering crew. The thunder of giant furs crashing to the ground. The sergeant was everywhere, helping as much as he could. But although he had succeeded in his first aim, a truce in the town, he had only postponed his investigation of the express office robbery. That evening, after most of the men had climbed into bed, dead tired from their unaccustomed exercise, he questioned Johnny James for nearly an hour. Let's see your throat, Johnny. Why? You said the thieves choked you. Well, there's no mark. My throat was protected by my parka. You were hit on the head, too? Yeah. You want to feel the bumper? No, Johnny. Did you see the thieves' hand at any time? No. You should have. I'll demonstrate. Well, take it easy, and I... I'm behind you.  Your chin's pulled down to try to save your throat. You can see my hand, Captain. Yeah. Let me move. Aren't you forgetting, Sergeant? It was dark. It was awful dark in here. How'd you manage to open the safe? I, uh, did that by the sound of the clicks. Oh, I see. I'll talk about that again. Oh, by the way, has anyone else been losing a lot of poker lately? Well, I haven't been losing much at all. I might anyone else, but Mike. Oh. I, uh, don't know, Sergeant. Oh, I'd better find that out. In the meantime, try to remember any little detail may help us identify the man who held you up. Don't you think it was Mike who did it? Man's always innocent until he's proven guilty, Johnny. Good night, Johnny. Come on, King. The Sergeant and King returned to the hotel. The Sergeant patted the dog when they reached the front door. It's too hard inside for you, King. You'd better sleep with the rest of the team round and back. Good night, boy. King trotted around in back of the hotel. There he burrowed deep in the snow against the cold and went to sleep. But shortly after midnight, he was awakened. Someone was coming out the back door of the hotel. King recognized who it was at once. The little boy the Sergeant had carried from the burning mission. He shook off the snow and ran to the boy's side. Well, no, King. We must be very quiet, Johnny. I'm sure we'll not like it if we make a noise. But Napoleon has the greatest wish to see this new place. You come, King. There was only one light burning in the town. That was in a cabin at the edge of the forest. Come on, King. Napoleon decided he would start his tour of investigation there. And a few minutes later, his face was pressed close to the window. This was Johnny James' cabin. Quiet, King. Harvey Brand was inside the cabin with Johnny. Napoleon could hear even though he couldn't understand the meaning of their words. Go on. Go on. I want to know everything the Sergeant asked you and everything you said to him. What about seeing the hand? Well, he showed me how I should have been able to, but I had an answer for it. I said it was too dark in the office.  Well, what should I have said? If it was too dark to see a hand in front of your face, how could anyone have picked out Carrie's poke from all the others? The Sergeant's got you pegged. Me? What about you? I had nothing to do with it.  I had nothing to do with it. You can't get away with that. I got a gun here, Johnny. Do you see it? It'll be out of this or it'll be your finish. Carrie may talk about shooting somebody, but I'm the guy who'll do it. I'll tell the Sergeant everything. You can't pin it all on me. I've got a gun too. Put that down. No. You're in this. You'll go to jail with me. You're more guilty than I am. As Johnny slumped to the floor, Harvey turned toward the window and saw little Napoleon's terror-stricken face. It disappeared almost at once. Harvey slammed out of the cabin and ran around it. Napoleon and King were just disappearing into the forest. Harvey started after them. The distant shot and the boy's scream had shattered the Sergeant's light sleep. He pulled on his clothes and a moment later was running down the street toward Johnny's cabin. He was bending over the still body when Carrie, Ben, Mike and some of the other minors entered the cabin. Is he dead, Sergeant? No, but he's badly wounded. Take care of him. I have tracks leading into the forest. I'm going to follow them. All right, Sergeant. The moon was bright enough for the Sergeant to make out the tracks as he ran, the boys, the dogs and the man's. When he reached the forest, the trampled undergrowth was enough to show him the way, and he ran hard, careless of his own safety, determined to overtake the man who had shot Johnny James. Five minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, and then he heard a boy's voice. No! No! The Sergeant turned on more speed, calling on all his strength. A few seconds later, he burst into a small clearing set by a gully. A man was standing at the edge of it. At the bottom, a small figure was huddled behind King, who growled his defiance. The Sergeant took a flying leap and hit the man as he raised his gun. The shot went wild. Preston and Bran rolled down to the bottom of the gully. With a final and supreme effort, the Sergeant twisted the gun from Bran's hand and leaped to his feet. Hurry, Bran, eh?  All right, all right. You're under arrest in the name of the Queen. Half an hour later, a tearful and no longer venturesome Napoleon was being tucked into bed at the hotel. He was going to kill me, Sergeant. It's all right, Napoleon. It's all over now. But, King, he stood in front of me after I fell. If the man had shot, he would have killed King. I was so afraid for him. I could not move. It's all right now. My son, I hope you have learned your lesson. Oui, mon père. One must never stumble when one runs. One must never go roaming alone in the middle of the night. Oui, mon père. And one must never scream when one sees one man shoot another man. No, no, Napoleon. That is not the lesson. One must always obey, or great trouble will come to you. Is it understood? Oui, mon père. Sergeant, what of the man who is going to shoot King? What will happen to him? He's under guard downstairs. He'll go to jail. But not for murder. He did not kill Johnny. No, Johnny will recover. Praise God, no life has been taken. It was conscious, and we got back to his cabin. He made a full confession. I do not quite understand what he and Brandt did. They faked the holdout, knowing that Mike would be blamed for it. And you have recovered the goal? Yes, Father, a thousand dollars' worth from Harvey's cabin and the rest from Johnny's. Their false accusation might have led to even more trouble if it hadn't been for you and the children. It hadn't been for the mission burning down. God's will ever. Yes, Father, I think it was. It brought you here, and you and the children gave the miners something to think about besides themselves. It straightened out their minds and prevented bloodshed. Now that the only real criminals in town are on their way to jail, this case is closed. Oh, oh, oh! In just a moment, Sergeant Crosby, in just a moment, Sergeant Preston will give you a preview of Monday's adventure. Join the crowd, fellas and girls. Hurry up and get your Sergeant Preston Yukon trail model. They're yours for the asking when you ask for delicious Quaker puffed rice and Quaker puffed wheat. Yes, they're right on the eight different special new packages. So there's no waiting, no box tops, no coupons, no extra cost. Hurry to your grocers while there's still time. You'll want the complete set, so you'll have every one of the 59 exciting, larger, easier-to-build models. There's a very place as you hear about in these danger-packed adventures of Sergeant Preston and King. 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is still a very powerful Category 4 storm with winds of 140 miles per hour, gusts of 165, moving to the west northwest at 17 miles per hour. This storm is very strong, it is very symmetrical and it is going to cause destruction. More than a million people are being told right now to get out because of this. What you're looking at right now is a satellite image of the eve of Hurricane Florence, a potentially devastating Category 4 hurricane approaching the southeastern coast. Now from space you can see what a monster storm this really is as it picks up strength and heads for coastal areas of North Carolina, South Carolina and Virginia. Take a look at this incredible video of the eve of Hurricane Florence. Now imagine flying a plane right into that massive category for a storm, maximum winds 140 miles per hour. That's what my next guest did. He's monitoring the storm as it takes aim at the Carolinas where about a million people have been ordered to evacuate. From our flight today we learned that Florence is getting stronger and stronger by the minute and it's truly a turning into a beast of a storm. Wind from, you know, a tropical storm to a major hurricane in a matter of 72 hours. So it's what they call rapid intensification. So the storm has really got its acting together. That's producing pretty widespread surf in the Waste and Chest High Zone. First in Georgia, Northern Florida, even some bigger sets in Central Florida need a Waste High Zone and even smaller to get down into the Bahamas shadow there. But still pretty fun conditions out there on things considered and that actually looks like one of the potentially better spots as we head later in the week. It looks like pretty solid.


Coach, what's going on? Happy to see you today. We are going to talk about your numbers, okay? Aquatics coaches and coaches alike are just not Great at tracking their numbers. They can do a million different Workouts and formulate times and doing all these things But the business aspect of the coaching is what we specialize here at making money coaching sports We are here to help you actually make the right amount of money and not work paycheck to paycheck And that happens to be diving into the details. Are you diving into the details? For your numbers. So are you tracking your numbers? What does that mean? First off, what is your lifetime value of your clients? What is lifetime value? That means when you get a new client Over the course of the lifetime that they're with your program What is the average lifetime value you're getting? Okay, when you get a kid that trains with you Are they staying for a year and the lifetime value average is one year of dues whatever your dues may be Okay, how are you tracking that? Do you know how to track that an example? We use is we use a company called Sam cart Sam cards a checkout page, okay? It can help you track your lifetime value another thing Visits to your website. Do you have a website? Do you have an Instagram page? Do you have Facebook page? Do you have YouTube channel? Okay, how many visits are going to your website daily weekly monthly yearly? Okay, you can use Google Analytics if you want it's a free tool that they give out for websites Okay, what are they looking at on your website? Are they spending more time at Google Analytics can tell you all this stuff What are they looking at at your website? Are they looking at the first page the second page? Do they spend more time on? This page than that page are they what are they clicking on right on the website? Is it easy for them to actually give you money? can they register for your thing and Pay you as easy as possible or is it like going through a labyrinth or a maze and they give up like I couldn't even find How to pay I don't know what I'm doing I'm just gonna go find an easier place to go to or is it like Register here boom put your credit card in here click you're signed up schedules done We'll reach out to you as soon as possible if you're scheduling the moment is is when you register someone and they pay is it Automatically pinging you sending you an update to your email so that right away you can register you can reach out to them Instantly and like hey just got your payment. I'm gonna what time would you like to come? Play schedule practice whenever okay? You need to do that How many They're sending emails you your lists your lists are huge if you don't have a huge email list You need a big email list because the more people you can email about stuff the more people buy your stuff The more people will train with you Okay, more people will learn how to swim more people will want to try up while what try water polo near and more people Want to try swimming in your and more people want to do artistic swimming in your more area more people won't be like I want to try diving your area so How many people are opening your email is one right are your headlines and your titles good for your emails We can help you out here with money money Making money coaching sports, okay, how many clicks are the emails getting in the links? Did you put links in there for them to register and to pay for them to look at the schedule for them to get more Information for them to contact you. What are they clicking on? Okay? How many kids are I go back to numbers and tracking how many kids leave your program and don't come back All right, what are you tracking that? Maybe you find out why? Pull those people. Okay, how many people leave and come back? How long they leave for how long they? Come back. Are they a seasonal person? Do you get the do you get more kids in this season than that season?  Why is this the way it is? How can you figure that out in terms of numbers? You should be sort of data driven when it comes to your business if you need help with that we can help That's our job. We're here to make your life easier Okay, we have programs put in place to make it so that you don't have to do as much leg work We help you out you can coach and then you can make your business an actual business coaching business Okay, another one. How many kids are signing up per month? Is it? At random four kids this month ten kids this month zero this month lost five kids or negative five kids You need to track all these things coach Okay, if you don't track all these things you're not in the sports training business You're just a coach part-time and if you need help with any of that click on the Text or text me you don't have to click on it Okay, you can text me on the thing below in the description or you can email me anything any questions You might have and we can get on a chat and talk about how to make your business an Actual thing your coaching business your real business. Okay, that's what we're here to help you with If this thing is jiving with you and you this makes you actually want to think about stuff Give me a shot and I'd love to talk to you about how we can track your numbers better And how we can make you the best coach you're gonna be. Thanks You