We say ... ... and I'm Malah Gil Bill Nicholson. It's not just a broad welcome. It's welcoming you for a purpose and the purpose I'm explaining now as a gathering here to talk about the very important, you know, social situation healing of people. I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we meet, the Boon Rong and Wurundjeri Woirurung people of the Coolyen Nation. We pay our respects to elders past and present and note that sovereignty has never been ceded.  When we stop to acknowledge the violence of colonialism in Australia and name systemic racism as a source of the violence experienced by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, we take a small step towards creating a more equitable world. This always was and always will be Aboriginal land. What is the situation in the country in general in Australia? Well there's a lot of progress. Our capital has been the most progressive over the last two or three years. That involves legislation to decriminalise drug use and that is going ahead this year. They've legalised cannabis, possession of cannabis. They've had pill testing programmes at festivals. We've had medical cannabis in Australia for quite some time which has worked quite well. We've had a supervise and digging room set up in 2018 in a suburb not far from here where there was I guess high prevalence overdoses and a lot of public and digging and that room has been outstanding in terms of its achievements. We've had a 50% reduction in overdose deaths in that area. We've had significant change in public injecting. In the acting room if they want access they'll go through there but they can just come in and access regular needle and syringe services or access the consulting site. We've had over 6,000 separate individuals registered to use the service and there's almost 400,000 visits to the service in that time so we've had more than 6,000 overdoses. This is the injecting zone so it's got the capacity for 20 people to inject simultaneously. You get your syringe, a spoon, water and a torn decay. 95% of the visits to the room are to inject heroin sometimes in combination with other things and only about 3% methamphetamine. I really like this room because I know I'll come here and I can safely use whatever my substance of choice is up on the day and this is like one of the few places where I feel welcomed and not judged and not ostracised for what I do. I just feel safe here.  How would you feel about the service? The drug's actually being prescribed and supplied here rather than having to buy on the street corner. That would make it that perfect service. That'd be a dream. It's called a vein finder. It kind of can show up the veins more easily. I think this is probably our most informal area and it's also the place we really get to build our relationship and rapport with people. We can actually do a lot of our referral work, our psychosocial work and also engaging with people to check in on how they are. You can get a very quick rapid result within 60 minutes per hepatitis C RNA so indicating current hepatitis C infection. You can obviously get treatment prescribed very quickly and then client started on treatment very quickly as well. Do you have a range of services from primary care, the hepatitis testing you've seen, opiate dependence treatment, oral health care in conjunction with our oral health service, legal support, drug treatment, wound care, sexually transmitted infections, mental health support. There's a range of services that we provide in this space here. To see the holistic range of services you have here supporting the most vulnerable in the community is really heartwarming and to think that it's all paid for by the public purse is particularly encouraging and clearly there's a need for much more of it. Not only in this city and state but across Australia, my own country has nothing like this. We have a thousand people from 70 to 80 countries around the world. There's a huge amount of energy and the research being presented is incredible. The activism we're hearing about the personal stories, the peer leadership. It's really good to run into people that I haven't seen for a number of years and it's good to connect especially after Melbourne's lockdowns gives us opportunity to rebuild and regain momentum that felt sorely lost. In Japan, stigma against people full use drugs is deep rooted. Almost all people report to police once they know a person use drugs even in hospitals, social welfare offices, schools or shelters. So no one talked about their drug use when they need support or they just give it up. So that's why I started Harm Reduction Tokyo. So we provide psychosocial support to survive through chat services so you can talk freely and safely. And in the previous year we chat more than 2000 times and met over 200 people full use drugs. We will not stop doing this until the society changes. What is the general harm reduction situation in China? Well, 10 years ago it was still pretty good but more recently especially after the start of COVID, the Chinese services have deteriorated. The method program is still ongoing but other services, harm reduction services such as needle exchange only provided as a lip service. In Thailand you know about drugs. It's illegal. Provide the needles. It's illegal to government not provide the needles for our drug users. Right now just civil society provide. We need more funding and we need more organization to do harm reduction too. Often governments talk about oh we take a health approach to drug use. We have drug rehab programs for people but you need to look behind those kind of nice sounding words to see what the reality is and often it's still, it is almost always very punitive still. The biggest thing that the government could do probably is just to leave people alone and I think this is essentially the kind of the biggest challenge at the moment. In the words of a great Australian Michael Kirby the state should say out of the bedroom. What are the special needs of women who use drugs in Kenya? Many women who use drugs are homeless and they're homeless together with their children. We have established blood threshold shelters that are managed by women who use drugs at the community level. These shelters are near the drug using sites which can easily be accessible to the women. Can you talk about the advocacy toolkit you developed with the network? We can train using this toolkit harm reduction service providers so that when women who use drugs and gender diverse people who use drugs when they come for harm reduction services can they also access sexual and productive health services and if they cannot access contraceptives let's say they cannot even access safe abortion they cannot access information on perinatal and newborn care in harm reduction services where else would they access it? A lot of us just are starting to realize how important mental health is and actually addressing it not just for the people that we service or the people that we work with but also for the actual workers themselves. The overarching theme of the conference of course is strength and solidarity and for me as a trans person I find this to be a really important message. The fact that I have multiple intersecting identities both of which I'm marginalized as a person who uses drugs and as a trans woman really highlights how we need to have solidarity across different social justice movements. If you would like to send a message to these professionals in their suits what would that be? You just sort of like stopped and cleared your mind of oh these myths misconceptions that you've that we all learned throughout our whole lives because that's what's like bombarded to us about like who drug users are and what they're like if you just try and put that aside look at me as a person listen to me and my experiences maybe you learn something and you learn that we're not scary we're just fucking people like here in me and like drug use is probably the least interesting thing about me What I really like at the conference this year is the attention for diversion of funds away from drug control towards health programs that's something that I take home as a message like yeah we really need to bring our game better to push for that agenda in the Netherlands. Our final award for the evening is the International Rolliston Award now we had an incredible array of nominations for this but the absolutely outstanding one was the nomination for the Ukrainian activists organizations and service providers maintaining and continuing services throughout the Russian invasion of Ukraine so please come up We are back to understanding of harm reduction as a comprehensive approach which include the vocation of people from bombing shelters providing shelters providing food and sleeping bags for kids and families and that's all done by nurses doctors harm reduction activists in the under the bombing under missile attacks What we're doing now from the Latin American network of people who use drugs is we're trying to push further to talk about the stimulants harm reduction but mainly talk about human rights to see if the international funders start working on reducing stigma and discrimination instead of only focusing on injecting drug use that definitely it's important but it's an issue that you mostly see in Colombia or Mexico. What's really innovative in from the international perspective is the safer supply program in Canada can you explain to people who don't know about what is it? For the most part it's very medicalized safe supply so it is run through health clinics to engage people to get a prescribed supply of their substances there is a program running in BC that is being run through a drug user group where they are purchasing substances testing them repackaging them and giving them out to people that use substances in the community but that's a very unique experience there. You were speaking I think yesterday about decriminalization and how to do it in an adequate way can you explain that? Yeah you know decriminalization is a major intervention that we're pushing now and part of it is recognizing that criminalization is an inappropriate response to drugs. One of the things that we fear in doing decriminalization is moving it from the criminal punishment system and then letting another system take over that space and continue to criminalize people continue to stigmatize people to continue to take up all the resources that are necessary to give to communities. The things that I think will help turn the tide are solutions that have to happen way upstream. How do you prevent someone from being traumatized in the first place? How do we eliminate poverty right? How do we repair the harms caused by other structural violence like racism and white supremacy? Harm reduction it helps a small portion of the folks who need these kinds of services who manage to find us right? Harm reduction isn't in every corner of at least the U.S. the way it should be and even if it were it still wouldn't be enough. There are too many people hurting and in pain and I'm not suggesting that the only folks who use drugs are ones who are hurting in pain. I'm not suggesting that at all but for those who are help often doesn't come soon enough. Do you think these conferences can make a change? We are making changes now and the ideas that we're bringing forward what we're sharing but the actions right change is not just a word it's an action it's a place to be it is how you eat how you sleep how you walk how you wake up and being here and taking time from being on the field and sharing and going back with truths and ideas and collaborations and talking about real things how do you protest how do you impact how do you write laws how do you cheat how do you how do you make things happen this is important that is change so yes.


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And now tonight's presentation of radio's outstanding theater of frills Suspense tonight we bring you a transcribed story of a man who used a gun once too often So now starting mr. Joseph Kerns iris tonight suspense play hold up Be staying there mine Hazel Open the cash register quick unlock the safety catch on the gun hear me Tim What's wrong never mind do what I say? I'll get away from the counter quick I'll take care of everything. I'd like a pack of cigarettes any special brand. Yeah. Yeah. Give me the ones with the green Okay, stay where you are you both this is a hold up. I Haven't got much just give me what you got and hurry got a gun you got in your pocket Just don't don't you try and find out mr. Okay? All my receipts are in here stand away. I'll get it. Yeah, you'll get it Tim please stay away from here. Can't you see he's already dead or happened here a shooting match? No Five bullet holes all on the head. I tried to hold me up. What was I supposed to do? Where's his gun in his pocket just pointed it through his jacket the right pocket no gun here Maybe the left. I know he had something in his right pocket this That's your gun You ever see the boy before no first time I saw us tonight My husband saw the boy standing outside our store a few moments before it happened. I'll handle it If you don't mind, I'd like to hear what your wife has to say Well, Tim had a feeling something was wrong We both saw the boy standing outside looking in at us And then he decided to come in That's when Tim told me to unlock the safety catch on the gun in the cash register You've had experience with hold up men before haven't you mr. Chase twice you people were in on them both. Yeah. Yeah, I remember Pretty rough on them aren't you if you mean I don't give them a chance to rob me. Yeah Good shot, too. You don't miss I didn't miss over there Shooting Japs then shooting hoods now. What's the difference guy who shoots first gets to talk afterwards How much money do you have on the premises? $15 and change the rest was over at the house And you shoot it out for that listen, I'm not in business to give money to hoodlums gun or no gun Thiefs a thief better off dead Tim, please. No I want it known to any of these punks who want to stick me up They better come in shooting because that's the way I'll meet them. Did you notice if anyone was with a boy? No, no, I I didn't see anyone. No, there was no one we could see Mr. Chase you'll have to come downtown to make a full report just routine Yeah, sure. Hey, so you close up on the cop set through here captain run you and this is mr. Chase Hold up shooting on the east side. You want to see him? Oh, yeah Definitely a hold-up attempt although no gun was found on or near the hold-up man No, not yet, but it's a kid 19 or 20. Thanks, Bill.  Oh, yeah, sure Cigarette. No, I don't smoke tanks in what's all right Chase We've met before him. We yes, sir about More eight months ago. Yeah, that was the Hendricks shooting, right? That's right. Hold up attempt About six or seven months before that there was the scene. Oh, yes, the Delano killing hold up to I remember in each case the hold-up man was shot and killed So that's wrong No But I'd say very foolish look they were trying to rob me I killed him Oh, was I supposed to do just give them the money and wish them luck perhaps what for every hold-up man You've shot it out with I can show you in our files a dozen dead heroes They shot it out, too But they were killed for their pains not me and I never will be because I I know how to use a gun And I know those punks too. They're all yellow when things are equal I know I've killed three of them And I'll kill three more and three more after that chase listen what I'm trying to say is this our job is to apprehend the bandit It's not your job. You're not being paid to risk your life or shoot up your neighborhood If there's any shooting needed, we'll do it.  Let me put it this way Someday you'll find a gunman who'll be a little faster than you then what that day will never come You know why because I know my guns My wife thought I might be killed when I was in the Pacific, but I killed instead Mean guns have got an understanding neither has failed the other yet. You're a very sure man. Aren't you mr. Chase? Yeah, I try to be I'm not mistaken. You've got a boy almost that kid's age, haven't you? so I was just thinking out loud Terrible price the young sometimes have to pay for living a look captain. I don't feel sorry Do you I didn't know the boy I couldn't say except Like you I have a boy on the stage Captain Runyon Yes, we'll be out in a moment. I'll have a statement to make then The newsmen want to talk with you take some pictures of mine. Oh sure. Why not? Yes, I forgot we've we've been all over the front pages together before twice in fact It makes you an old hand at meeting the press Maybe that's why these hoods keep trying to hold me up. It's a game They read about me now. I want to see if they can take me. Well, Chase I might say that you should get a medal for shooting these holed-up men men again If it were me I'd find me a business where I didn't need a cocked gun to ensure my profits. I manage. Yes. I guess you do Are you ready? Gentlemen, let's make this a short session. Will you sure cap now mr.  But if I have a gun to I feel a little more equal Fear is gone. Well, you feel your money is more important than your life when you choose to shoot it out with a holed-up man It's not a question of which is more important I never worry handling a gun as a matter of reflex and when there's two of you facing each other Who has the best aim? Well, have you ever thought of moving away from where you are because of your store being the target for so many hold-ups Why should I I've got a right to make a living because a man with a gun wants to take my living away from me Should I just give it to him? Do you feel your service experience gives you this assurance you have with guns? Maybe When you see death all the time it becomes less of a shock to you less important after a while And so do people well captain here says a citizen shouldn't try to apprehend a gunman single-handed But leave that job to the police. I don't have time to wait for the police besides when a man's wrong. He's wrong I'd rather have him dead wrong Gentlemen if I may I'd like to clarify the department's position. I'll go ahead cap. Thank you We ask all citizens that one face to an armed hold-up in which the other party has a deadly weapon that they Do not resist but rather that they observe the party closely and be able to identify them when apprehended And mr. Chase could you tell us more about gentlemen the entire incident is on report as well as all statements made you can get The rest of your story there you can talk with mr. Chase at his home or store if you wish to interview him further Now let's have your picture. Okay, I'm mr. Chase. Will you stand here? Right here, please Anything more on the kid now he's in fingerprints now kind of gives you an odd sensation Something you can't describe this Meeting a killer with legal guns. That is I get you cap. He's a cold one. All right. It's lousy Man who has an excuse to kill and he does Jerry's defending his home as rights, but somehow it's still wrong Three in a row all shots through the head not one bullet late his way every homicide just a pile What's the big book say? The wages of sin Tim you've been up all night. Why don't we close today? No, no, no business as usual We only got a lot of new customers with all this in the papers. I Only hope Jerry doesn't read it You hope Jerry doesn't read about me my own son Should be proud he will be proud. Dad's not afraid Dad went through a war and he came back. He can still take care of himself Jerry'll be like me to meet the world face-to-face. He won't take anything from anybody. I Wonder Well, what's the matter with you?  That's all Tim this is no good all of this Jerry's coming home from his first year at college and he comes home to murder Hazel I don't like that kind of talk. Well, what do you call it? Well, he'd have shot me all of them would have shot you Is that it? Hey, who's side are you on? protect ourselves yes, but You know that none of those people is a we're in business. I've got to protect that business That's why I've always got a gun handy. Is it Tim? Oh Captain run Well, mr. Chase I do mr. Fine. Thank you like to have a little chat with you on the missus if I might mr. Chase, of course I Know that you've both been through a lot, but I feel this is important We have very good reason to believe that the man shot here last night did have an accomplice. Oh, that right? Yes A brother when'd you find out this morning when we got back positive identification of the boy from Washington Two and two still make form. He had a brother who was released from state's prison only last week. Hmm. What was this troll? robbery and attempted murder You people think maybe he was outside last night. Yeah The woman who lives a few doors down from your store said she saw a car pull out about the same time She heard gunshots, so maybe ditched his brother and doesn't want any part of us. Maybe Maybe not We're not paid to act on assumptions, but to always presume the worst We're going to place a stake out near your store for the next few nights What if I don't want the police around my store? I don't understand bad for business. I Can take care of myself. That isn't the object mr.  This man is a killer too No, I don't like to say this You may try to avenge his brother if I were you I'd treat every stranger who came into my store for the next few days As the man who might not just want to rob you But perhaps to kill you You are listening to hold up tonight's presentation on radio's outstanding theater of thrills Suspense a double-barreled dramatic treat is gun smoke Written with style and acted with a flourish every drama on gun smoke is one that adults will enjoy For the adventures of United States Marshal Matt Dillon our stories about people who might have been real Every Saturday every Sunday hit your wagon to the stars address and let us take you back to the early days in Dodd City And set you down right smack in the middle of an exciting situation On gun smoke and now we bring back to our Hollywood soundstage. Mr. Joseph Kearns starring in tonight's production Hold up a tale. Well calculated to keep you in Why don't we close up the store until a police catch this fella they're looking for don't be silly cops always look for the worst Kid was probably alone so some old lady up the block here's a car pullout just as I shoot so that means we have to start running Oh, just the same. I don't like this. Hey, so why don't you quit worrying and start getting things ready for Jerry? He'll be home in a day or two. You ready to let it Yes, you're right. It'll be good to have him home forget all that's happened He's doing so fine at school It's hard to believe he's in college. It's not hard for me well with all the bills Oh, I don't begrudge him his schooling hazel. It's just that I hope maybe he'd have stayed home a year to to help me with the store Well, I his schooling is more important. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe so You know Tim, I Can't help but think that boy the other night. He's just Jerry's a he was nowhere like Jerry He was a thief a hoodlum He's going to rob us. Yes. I know but Maybe there were many reasons why Hazel didn't I tell you forget it look check the beer. I think we're running low I have to put in an order tomorrow and then go on home for the rest of the night. I'll close up No, I'm staying now you're being silly silly or not I'm staying been practically the whole day now and it's getting late Nothing's happened since the captain was here. Nothing is going to happen Tim You remember what he said about every customer Look if we start closing our doors in the face of every customer because some policeman thinks he might be out to kill Me we might as well close up for good Isn't the matter to shrug off we can I help you you can't find out what you want just to just ask I will oh Those are real good apples Hood River apples. We do have wonderful apples You know the Hood River apples. Yes, ma'am Like we're gonna have a storm And it's been so nice. Are we hazel? Why don't you phone you have any palm granites? I think so over in the corner by the vegetable racks Hazel I was asking why didn't you phone the depot to see what trains are doing tonight? Maybe Jerry'll be in earlier than we think would you mind waiting a minute or two before you get on that telephone? I'd like some help here. I can help you sir.  Yeah, yeah Then why don't both of you help me? Yeah, of course. I don't know what I want exactly I Just moved into a place near here, and I was thinking of stocking up a food supply We'll be glad to help you. I'm surprised you people are still open for business So soon after what happened? Business as usual, you know No, I don't I guess those things happen to a lot of people Besides the police are pretty efficient. So are you? By what the papers say? It was unfortunate for the kid. Yeah, we're going to close very soon now, sir if I can help you you can How about you and your wife picking out a lot of canned goods for me? Anything you think a bachelor might need to set up housekeeping This is all new to me. I'll be glad to I'll just take a moment to make this call and then I'll be with you dear. I thought you said you were in a hurry to close Picking out all the things that I want might take some time Why don't you have your wife call later, huh Hazel come on and help me with this gentleman Thanks, how much is your coffee in the ground coffee, sir? I don't know dollar three a pound Okay, now you pick up like I say what a person needs to keep eating a week So you better take care of the butter and milk now handle the canned goods you folks have got a nice little store here We like it Maybe that's why you don't like people sticking up I guess How about beans and corned beef some tuna sure two of each be enough Yeah, excuse my curiosity But what did this kid say that held you up the other night why I don't remember exactly If a person held me up, I'd sure remember everything that happened I'd always remember did this kid show you his gun thought you read about it in the papers. I did Sometimes I forget details I Never met a man who'd stand up to a man.  I Do remember the papers saying the only shots fired were yours Clean through the head Real clean to will there be anything else? Yeah, how about some of those apples you folks were talking about a little while ago? I'll get them Tim. Okay You want all your groceries and boxes or shopping bags boxes have a car to carry all this stuff Yeah down the street away. I'll help you. No, I can manage Well, now let's see that comes to The paper said you only had $15 in your cash register when that kid held you up You'll have a lot more after you finish with my bill, huh? That'll be $23.44 Alrighty, you can get ready to close up after this gentleman leaves right after I called here We're expecting our son home from college any day now We thought he might be coming sooner than he said You know boys always anxious. Yeah That kid the other night was anxious too But he got over it quick didn't he Hello Oh captain runyon. What oh wait a minute. Uh, thank you very much, sir Yeah, oh captain runyon you there. I'm sorry for the interruption. I was just finishing up with a customer and I help you Yeah Yeah, well what time? No sooner. Oh No, nothing Okay, thanks cap What do you want? He does call to say that a team of detectives are being assigned from midnight on around our house, too Didn't I tell you about not worrying that man that just left he worried me Is it clear and all right like I said we just can't be jumping every time a customer comes in the door Besides tomorrow, we'll all feel less jumpy I'll call a depot now. No, no never mind Now Jerry won't be coming home with a storm coming up Let's close up There's a car pulled up on the other side of the street He turned their lights off so I'd probably someone who lives around here. Why would they stop outside the store? Oh, now you're just sitting in the car. They aren't going to get out Well, would you and all this rain? Looking over here, huh? What what do you mean they? It's only one person. I don't like it Tim It doesn't look right What's your worry and we wish we wouldn't have been so independent when the captain offered his protection No one's going to bother us. I Still haven't forgotten how to shoot Tim Tim I'll call the police and come out.  All right Hazel turn out the lights You throw the latch on the door We're closed.  Let me call the police, please. No, no, no I'll handle this Call the police now is he Tim turn him over. Why turn him over? I want to see his face Jerry Oh, you must have got that car. He was telling us about I didn't know I Didn't expect him tonight. I didn't know After Joseph Kern starred in tonight's presentation of hold up Next week we bring you a story of flight to freedom and how it ended. It is called security agent That's next week on Suspense Transcribed and directed in Hollywood by Anthony Ellis Tonight's script was written for suspense by Jules Maitland Directed by Wilbur Hatch Featured in the cast were Alice Bacchus, Leonard Weinrib, Shepard Menken, Larry Thor, Byron Kane, Frank Kirstle and Sam Edwards The foot soldier in the fight for justice anywhere is the man on the beat But in a big city a policeman has many other responsibilities in addition to the big one of maintaining law and order For no matter what the situation the man in blue is likely to be the first one called when help is needed Is a neighbor too noisy a customer abusive a woman ill or a little boy lost No matter what the reason someone is sure to call the police and in each call the men of the precinct answer There is sure to be an intensely human story For drama as rich in emotion as it is an excitement of action Listen for 21st precinct every Thursday night. 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Let's see we can get in this one I'm feeling good. I just got I just got one of the best users in the game. I'm feeling real good It's gonna be wow and this is really good too because mud draft is so juiced right now Okay. All right, so the question now is who is in 98 Disgusting linebacker core right now So now we just got a hope that the mud draft round that we predetermined ends up having an elite edge rusher on it Okay, so the rounds I predetermined are seven and 11. Okay. I like it sounds like lucky numbers Let's do it.  That's round two. So round three. Here's a real important one. This is the one. I just switched on to Damn not a good one to switch on to I'm not liking this so far round seven coming up shake shake. It didn't shake. Oh Jay Howard. Oh, Jay Howard. That's fire. Hey up. Hey, that's sick. Here's round 10 and round 11. Oh My god, I booted myself off of this round Let's go. He is dirt cheap, but he's a 90 overall tight end so that actually might mean right now Let me compare him to Calvin Johnson because I really like the Calvin Johnson. I don't exactly want to bench him He is significantly better than Calvin Johnson Okay, he's gonna be the starter and Calvin Johnson is gonna be my backup Which is totally fine actually because I have a couple sets where I get two tight ends on a field anyway So you should still get a shot without further ado We hop into our third game which would make us three and oh if we can get the dub my random set Challenge wheel. What do you got for me today? I had a brand new one last time. We completed it Let's see if we get a new one here that one's tough This one's a really hard I have not gotten this one in a while Wow, that is a good team. I'm a little scared right now It's gonna be a very standard matchup. All right I got to start out bombing because I need these passing yards. I'm gonna want them early I'm gonna hit Barry out of the backfield here. Just cuz I kind of got Whoa, I'm scared right now. I'm already really scared. This is gonna be a tough game. Oh B was so open I just didn't hit it in the right window. All right, so that's John Ross There it is. There it is. There it is possession catch. Oh Tillman moves fast fourth and nine.  I hope a slant opens up. I'm rifling that. Oh my god I kind of wish he did. This is what about a plant horrible start Okay, good hit. Who was that? Ray Lewis at the summer's all a corner out. So are you running it again? He's running it again. He's got the stretch Everybody's there fourth and eight. Okay. Well, we salvaged that that could have been a lot worse First in ten. I'm going to have a guy Tampa two is the new meta and it really frustrates me. It's very good Okay, got one to go. I was hoping to switch on I should have juked there though second and one I'm going to the same thing because we're getting really good blocks. That's exactly what I needed to do last time But I'll take it right now too. All right. Oh RPL stretch. Oh, and it went to Damian Williams, too Not very. Oh, I didn't switch Barry and Damian Williams. That's why Damian Williams was in for all those plays I'm just gonna go Damian Williams right up the middle. It's actually kind of nice that it's doing that It's subbing him in more than I'd like. Barry does need the breathers. So 36 Okay bet. See ya I'll take my first second in goal. Let's see a Barry. He's got a lot of people in there, but I know we can do it. Oh I got Let me snap it. Let me snap it. Let me snap it.   You only got a yard. Oh It was the double crossers Oh, he can still throw that candy. Oh No, that's so open. What happened gets to the seven with 20 seconds left. That's really bad. All right boys Is the dive? It's the dive. We're kind of filling that Okay, good stop. Is he do it again second and goal same thing. Who was that? Oh my god. That was how we long He came in All right double crossers on the play action Are you kidding me? He was standing right there and he still catches it. All right. He goes with a run play here Wow, good gap That was a good play. Oh What just happened, I don't know what happened first and goal I smell her on We need another goal line stand here if we want to keep this a one possession game have I dive Yes, ooh, but I don't get any black sheds that time. That's rough Gotta score gotta stop gotta score. That should be there. Nice catch Barry Sanders. Oh There's Barry again, I will abuse this. Oh, that's the Williams. I will abuse this. Oh a blitz I'll lob it up Second and ten. Oh, I got a lot. I'm gonna hit Barry in the middle. I can probably take this in Let's go. I found the play that's kind of changing up the game right now I like this finally got my first touch the end zone for the first time in the third. Oh I couldn't get to him fast enough and he's gonna have something open Stop catching these I bet a lot of money. This is Barry Sanders handoff right side. I don't know Okay I'm gonna get on my home's myself. Maybe not. He's gonna just perfectly rifle the same exact thing All right, well, we know what this is, but can we stop it blitz the whole squad and he still gets three up Goes to the exact same thing. Oh human joystick could play Good play Devin greens came off the edge and sacked me third and 13. It's not looking good Okay, oh jay Howard's there.  I really don't expect to get this, but I gotta go for good You're kidding.  I don't know how to adjust to that Because Darius Slasher is only gonna play it. I just blitzed everyone including night train lanes So if he doesn't run it, I'm in trouble. Okay I'm just gonna play on docking and I'm gonna QB spy von Miller because he's got to roll out this way Because he always does go get him.  He just threw back across a field ray loses right there and he ran past the ball Okay, how bold fourth and gold does he take the field goal? Oh my god He's actually gonna put the game in my hands to win right now. What a weird decision One touchdown boys, we need one more touchdown No, no Shit, he ran a different deep. That was so smart second and 24. We're kind of in trouble here.  Oh my god I had a chance and now I definitely don't it's 1343 right now, man That was so wack. He just got some of the most insane heat.  Oh my god that edge rush so unbelievable two straight block sheds like that 17 to 23 and I was unable To drive down the field and keep the game alive. It's a good game by my opponent mission failed We'll get him next time and you know what this isn't the end of the world because One OJ Howard touched the ball once that game and he fumbled as soon as he got it We're two-in-one. I'm really sad about Keekley, but Deon Jones is still really good so you can just come right back in. All right boys Two-in-one a very good game. I need an edge rusher if I can get an edge rusher in the next episode I'll feel a lot better. I got just Alexa Off got destroyed by his edge rush in that game and that was a big part of it So I can do something similar. That'd be nice. All right boys. I'll see you in the next episode Thanks for watching as always peace out


What's up chat? What's up YouTube? This is the needed podcast episode 40 Great to have a game out, you know, it's Didn't have any hella shows with no game and now finally the game comes out so excited to talk about You know important things and it's great to have a new game really Really the most exciting time of the year for all of us when we're all kind of bad at a new game And all trying to figure it out and all trying to be the first people that really figure out what's best Figure out how to get that you know to step up on the competition and that's a big deal And that's the point we're at right now, man, and we're all reacting to the game Some people overreacting some people underreacting and I guess we got to find a medium balance chat We got to find what we hate what we don't like what's going to be bad What's going to be good? We got to find that and pretty much single help and complain in the right ways but and one of the things I always hate about Early in the year honestly is everybody seems to love the game other people say just the best man ever this game is awesome I'm having so much fun. It's probably because we You know, nobody's really broken the game yet. It's something that's not It's really tough to Find something really negative about it But I mean there's definitely some complaints that people have had the first week and you guys in check You can help me about what are some of the complaints you have about the game What are some things you don't like and where's some things you like, you know for me personally I Like a new game. I like I like Finding new stuff. I like Understanding how the game works differently from last year But also understanding what what things are very similar to the year before that's one of the most important things that we You got to do as a man player you have to go back and compare it to the last game compared to games two years ago Like what's still the same and what's different? What do I have to adjust to and so it's a lot of big things a lot of differences between man 18 or 19 man 20 the biggest difference is the X factors These like superstar abilities for these dip for the superstars really and it's pretty much Pretty much I don't want to see this how the game is going to be played Because a mutt so far the playing over a hundred games of mutt I don't think the X factors are that big a deal in mutt, but watching regs I haven't played much regs But between the past rushing the stuff that Tom Brady can do and the arm bar, which is pretty much the number one thing We're going to talk about Because it probably much has been the biggest topic of discussion I see on Twitter people complain They want the arm bar gone. They want it's too overpowering So to me I just It's it's kind of a debate and people are on both sides Obviously the arm bar thing kind of relates to runners. It kind of helps runners be more high-powered You know and as you guys know I don't like to run, you know, I don't think I think the run is something that keeps everybody in the same Pot, you know what I mean? I think if everybody if the run is good, it's going to be hard to differentiate the great players from the regular ones really and So for me, I hate everything that just gives people other yards And I think something like the arm bar for me just gives the opponent yards, you know It just throws people out of the way and just gets these ridiculous animations That really don't require any type of outlandish skill, you know You don't really need to do any it's probably the most the easiest Even air trucking was kind of hardest dude into spam stiff arm. So for me Giving people that can just spam a extra yards is definitely something that's tough But you know and someone that we all respect in the man community When it comes to man and his opinions and everything and that's Moe and that's Somebody that was really an opponent of He was he was very much for keeping the arm bar. That was a good thing and So I wanted to be like, you know, I want to give this same platform to be able to talk to all of us And especially people that I respect and friends of mine that I respect their opinion on man Love to talk about it. So hopefully Moe is here in this this discord. Let me bring them in here You know What's the where buddy what's happening, you know How you like the game first of all, I Enjoy it. I've fun playing it. You know, I don't think Outside of everything I think it's I do think it's fun to play, you know, I mean, no, I always think it's fun to play though, you know, I mean When you know when things start get getting rolling sure we're gonna notice some some things We don't like some worse things as the year goes on. It's just you start noticing worse and worse stuff So what are some things that you like like at the game and this like?  Like you wouldn't have much control of them I feel like you got a lot of control of your players, you know I definitely feel like, you know, as far as like the lurk goes like I Think that it needed to be changed, you know, I mean, I thought I did think it was way too easy You know what I mean?  I thought that was that was ridiculous, but they overdid it You know what I mean? Like now I just think it's a little and like we're giving these like Like some of the most athletic players in the ability no athleticism really, you know what I mean? Like yeah have no no opportunity to pick the ball off a lot of the times, you know what I mean? so I think It's gonna make it tough, you know what I mean? And I think that like I know a lot of people are playing but not not many people are playing regs, but you know like once Like everybody's all over the armbar, which is like I get it, you know the armbar is really really effective Don't get me wrong. I'm not I'm never gonna say it's not but once once things get rolling and somebody finds a blitz that's gonna come in There's gonna be no no reason to use any other team but the chiefs just because the stuff Patrick Holmes could do was like insane, you know like literally insane And no one's even talking about it because you can't use the chiefs right now because there's no pressure on the game and their defense is Terrible, so it's like it's it's a really tough balance like Because because in reality like I heard you say like, you know, you don't you don't think the The run should be like ever be good or something crazy like that, which I mean is obviously a silly thing to say but That that is that is a component of Madden and You need to be able to run the ball just like you need to be able to pass the ball that that should be a thing You know whether you believe it or not like like for me I would be okay. Okay, get the armbar out of here.  So sometimes it's third and five You know, I see a defense where I know if my guy makes this block 100% I'm getting the first down Yeah, but the problem is you don't know because you don't know what that that linebacker is gonna do or that safety is gonna Do to my highly overall Rated guard. So it really just completely takes away running the ball right there Yeah, so you have those those those turning downs where you have to pass and that's just not how it should be Yeah, but they see that's where that's where I've always felt the run is is lucky Because you don't know what animation you're gonna get and you know, you don't know Okay, is the detac will go on a swim move to the left or to the right because if he swims moves the wrong way I get 10 yards if we moves right like I lose one one yard and there's nothing you can do to control that It's completely on the game, right No, that's the thing inside zone the detac will get to double teamed so so we I don't have to worry about him I shouldn't have to worry about him That's what I'm saying like that if we're gonna talk about how things should be and Another thing about the armbar. Tell me one way you can make the computer miss an open field. You tell me one way Yes Yes Box like that's one player, bro. No, I feel I can do it with any player I can do it with any like the juke and the spin move for all the spin When this when somebody spins in the game It literally takes two seconds for them to turn like get back turned around like you're never gonna you're never gonna make anyone Miss it. The juke is terrible. I don't know. I feel like if I'm the juke is pointless to do because if you do juke If anybody's any good, you're just gonna get his stick. Yeah, I mean The juke is terrible If it's 101, I feel like I'm getting by the computer. Someone doesn't click on I'm getting by the computer I'm hitting a juke. You're out of your mind. Yeah, like about the dragon There's one person there and there's one person and it's the coin they don't click on at all You have 1000% getting juice 1000 The armbar is I mean the armbar is is really good. Don't get me wrong. I'm not gonna say it's not really good but To you guys make it seem like there's just no there's no penalty And that's just not true if you if you watch somebody try to armbar and they're just sitting there tapping a look at their stamina It looks bad, but then when they hit someone that's when it's really good But it like there's ways to just throw like I wish you guys could watch me play like I Know how to tackle the dude like a hundred percent like I'm not saying he's not gonna he's not gonna give me If I'm one-on-one. Yeah curtains, you know, I mean, but I'm gonna back up I want to make it tough on him. I like I I see a lot of people just making it easy Like you guys just make it easy leave him 101 on the outside Like I think the armbar is better when you're passing it to the running back when you're running the ball at the running back It's not even really like that because yeah, there's more people around him So if you if I agree if you get him out in the flats versus a cornerback He is gonna make that cornerback look silly But me when somebody passes to the flats versus me I try to click on that corner back and back up a little bit You know, let them waste some stamina and then I try to wait for my safety to come on And then he's gonna stiff on my corner But I'm gonna be right there with my safety to tackle him. You know what I mean? And of course, bro. Yes, of course, there's gonna be some plays that just look silly like 100% But I don't think it's nearly at the the rate that people make it seem like not even close I don't know. I just feel like it's something That doesn't require a whole month. It doesn't require that much timing. It doesn't require any stick And it rewards a lot of yards. I mean, I think you know what I'm saying that that's for me It's like any a eight-year-old could do it So to me is like like if I'm if I'm if the eight-year-old is getting on yards on me just by pressing a button That's that's a little bit too easy You know, obviously it's gonna be things that people gonna be better with it and people gonna be better defending it But it's still a little bit too easy for people to It's a little too easy for people to you know, get yards and on top of that So it turns into a lot like air truck was last year or man two years now Where it's like they get a turbo and other players, you know fall and other players stumble and it's just I think the air truck was worse though Like to to be fair like there was no nothing you could really do versus the air truck If somebody just handed the ball first inside zone and you're right there You're dude you'd be used during the guy and he would just literally turn like at least I know my guys about to get stiff arm So I can click on to another player and then make the tackle so we can't so we can't trigger another animation Before you can trigger another animation like I think a lot of people are really lazy You know what I mean and and my honestly, I wouldn't mind like bro. I just hate I just don't like people saying like Man, you know, I love Madden.   Like it just won't happen. I like I said patch it bro I don't care bro. I use the Cowboys, but I rarely run the ball believe it or not Because because of what I said the art though the run game is I agree the armbar is really good But the run game is still bad like it's it's offensive linemen are clueless like Bro, there's so many times where the offensive linemen is is literally not blocking anyone Like you'll have like two offensive linemen that literally aren't touching anyone on a run It's like it makes no sense and like you can't say like running the ball is lucky like there's there's you you can look at the Defensive field and be like oh, yeah, the run should work here. Oh, yeah for sure, but at the same time It's I think it's lucky. I think it's lucky if I sit in 3-4 normal and you're in whatever runs So whatever even do's close, right? Okay, so you run way in for how many years now? What controls does my detack will blow up the tight end or does the tight end get a good block on the detack? What controls that completely the game? I don't I don't really see I'm not trying to just come out and I form and make it 1982 Yeah, I'm trying to run inside zone base versus dollar and know exactly what I'm getting on defense You know what I mean? Like I've always played like even even when I was ran the ball heavy back in the day Like like Madden Madden 12 Madden 13 I always ran in three wide receiver sets because because versus three wide receiver sets You rarely get a 3-4 unless they're like shifting the line where you can obviously expose that too. You know what I mean? Like I didn't like I said, I agree. I agree the run game is lucky in the past few years because it's been terrible Like it hasn't worked how it should you know what I mean? Like I I completely agree, but we're talking about these zones have been getting literally glitched like glitched Like there's it's literally a cloud flat glitch every single year Yeah, and and and there's almost a cloud fly on almost every single play Yeah, well at some point, you know that like and then you got to play off of that, you know That's good and that's not the argument. We're talking about patches like what should be patched, right? I mean, I for sure I'm never want to tell you that you know being a little seed out at clouds and that'd be good I'll never tell you that that's a good thing. You know, tell me one round the NFL that isn't detected by his own. I Don't know what you're what you're asking me like that's what I'm saying every single year There's a route that no matter what zone you have it can't do anything And last year there was like three. Well, I feel like for starting this year the zones are terrible I feel like like they don't cover anything really at this point See, I think the zones are bad, but like if you have a like a really good player, they play incredible. Yeah And so like I like like I like to scheme around stuff like that. You know what I mean? Like I know all right. So for instance, I use the Cowboys Byron Jones, I think he's I think he's Earl Thomas of Yeah, whatever madden that was was at 17 18. I think he's the Earl Thomas of 18 You know, there's probably other players, but I just when the mat when Madden first comes out I'm a Cowboys fan. I always use the Cowboys. Okay, so so I just have never had a switch teams this year You know what I mean? So I like the Cowboys. I know I know that Byron Jones He's gonna take away a side so I could put hard flats on his side because ain't no corner I'll get an open verse Byron Jones. Mm-hmm So then I can just cloud flat the other side or go go guard it myself You know what I mean? I like I think there's some scheme there at least. Oh, yeah, and that's how it was We talk about Earl. That's how our old Thomas was before they passed the game So it was ridiculous when everybody could do that. But yeah, that's how Earl was Yeah, that's definitely a good thing and that's the reason to pick certain teams really oven and just like you said Just pick mom's or pick, you know pick one of these on guys But if you have somebody that could shut down the whole side of the field, it's definitely a big deal But I just I'm like I said with the run I just feel like anything that anything that helps people get yards and it's easy to do It's just that ridiculously easy to do And for me, it's like I don't know if it's the best thing I would disagree when you say it's easy like I was just people No, I'm not saying the stiff arms not easy to do but a lot of times it doesn't you don't get the stiff arm You know like like if if you hand the ball like the ball has to be on the right hand You know, they have to be on a certain side when when they tackle you like I'm not saying the stiff arm Isn't ridiculous like I think it's really really good But when I think about how I can make a computer miss or make a cornerback miss in the open field without the stiff arm It's it's very there's nothing there You know what I mean like even for even for wide receivers the stiff arm is still the best move for for wide receivers and tight ends I mean Yeah, but like I said for me personally, I would shoot the shit off the computer I don't know what juice you tried, but I have tape on Austin He's 95 Juki is not gonna juke the computer. Yeah, I would do the computer But it just depends on the angle you're talking straight ahead of head straight if head to head You might not do but I would definitely if I'm running on like a 45 degree angle computers getting juke's 1,000 percent Yeah, I would have to Strongly disagree because all the all the juke's in the game are really really bad.   I don't care like Like I agree the the fumbles I agree if you're jukeing into a stick you should fumble But it shouldn't be that easy to his stick like these computer players shouldn't be his sticking people Yeah, what a computer that listen the computer and we're We're in the a's where yeah, they get the computer hit sticking so much So these these kids buy the cards, you know, if they're gonna spend as much money on Ken Houston They want Ken Houston Working for him, you know, and that's why and that's part of reason that's been explained to me Is that they want Ken Houston hit sticking and for me? I agree 1 million percent the computer should never hit stick That's how I feel about it.  It's like So so I notice even myself and I I take a decent amount of pride on you know What I think I can do on on with my defensive stick or whatever But for me, it's like okay I'll just let you juke him or not juke him and I'll just wait on the next guy You know what I mean? Yeah, I'll just be ready. I'll just be ready So if you make him miss I'm just there rather than I need to make the tackle now I'll just be like I'll just wait even if you juke him which I don't think you're going to he's gonna hit stick I don't know. I don't know if that makes any sense. I mean for me.  I think it's I think it's gotten a little bit better though Like like like this year like they've made like it's almost silly to strip, you know Yeah, they make the strip super weak You got a you got a time it like almost perfect. It's just gonna be so tough like one thing.  I don't know if anybody knows like and I don't notice that Never seen some more recovery even I have said some of the animations I think but then without being able to stumble recovery like So it's like like when like like there's a lot of picks where like I'm like how the hell are they not stumbling They're just like a running and then the guy that's like closest to them when they get picked off Literally can't tackle like literally can't I'm running through that so now I will I will say I'm happy that when you catch A pick you're not automatically stumbling because I feel like that's how what last year was horrible every time you caught a pick Just automatically I had to put never stumble on DB's last year That's how bad it was so I am happy about the fact that you can catch the ball and not just start rolling all over the place I guess my biggest my biggest thing with the armbar isn't so much like Do I think it's not overpower enough to get patched? I wouldn't say that but it's just like I feel like you run into an issue like where You just debate everything, you know, I mean debate debate everything being overpowered. It's like Like I just like I know people think like I'm I want to run the ball So I want to have arm like I really don't look at stuff like that, bro Like I really genuinely don't I just I hate playing new versions of Madden Constantly and then that leads the frustration, you know, I mean it I just feel like it's really easy to nitpick if you really want to Yeah, I mean for sure and I also think I Think we over everybody overreacted to the first week Because that's all everybody was doing, you know, and nobody was I don't think nobody really is that great at the game yet You know to the point where they don't have to run, you know, and that's that's what I see a lot You know, these regs games I've been watching has been all people running honestly because I think people They're not as good at the game as they will be in a month, you know So for me, but I said anything that's easy and we both know and when I realized armbar was a little Was when Jag Jag put out a video now. We both know Jag great guy.  All right, so Jag is out here popping people because it is pressing a that's what I knew I mean, it might be a little too much Honestly, so I do have that video and then I think I do all damn. Oh, yeah Where's the Jag video here go? So I just running to people like it I Yo This one was ridiculous because most of time cuz like he kind of got two people a two-for-one special Yeah, you too, but like I I know it sounds silly, but I would have clicked on already to the other guy I would have already clicked on and just been waiting for that.  But they're like too close to like that I will say like that one like that one was like just if he would have got to him like a split second closer He wouldn't even he would have just got his stick like that. That's where I think it's silly like when when there there's literally like Like I'm not I don't know if there's a threshold but like Like right before then they just get an automatic his stick like the dude just kills him like every single time No, I will tell you I was using chubb. I definitely couldn't get not one damn armbar in like three games Maybe chubb is not as he could earlier, but it was definitely definitely rough for me They said Fitz is the best armbar person.  I feel like this year The the blocks from the guards on the line bed is way more random than it was last year because I was adamant last year that them Safeties were not getting off blocks this year I feel like they just like you said they get pushed and then they react and they're right there That's the thing It's like it's like even they'll get blocked hard as hell like they'll get pushed back But they'll just push them right into where you're running You know what I mean? It's like it's like they're triggering that they won they won the match up But they're just pushing them right to where you're running Like instead of like say I'm running inside zone to the right My right guard is is meeting that linebacker and instead of pushing him inside so I can just run to the outside He pushes him to the outside where there's are you know what I mean where where that's their open space It's like it just it just doesn't make sense.  You know what I mean? Like so Like that's the only reason it seems like it's random It shouldn't be but that's what it seems like we should know whether the run is going to work or not Versus a certain defense unless unless the user blows it up like which I can live with you know And I think anybody can live with is like if somebody user Close it up when they should like say they're in a bad deep they get caught in a bad defense But they make a play with their user. It's like, you know a good good stuff to them Like I was just I was that close to breaking a run, but I didn't because they're user But but I these dudes shouldn't be block setting that shouldn't be something that's a random You know what I mean that that's not that's not how it should be, but I said I didn't think it was like that last year I thought them dudes just they got blocked and they got held This year I had this missing people getting pushed around and just Like like you said getting pushed back two yards with them being in a good spot to make plays and stuff But ultimately I still don't feel like the corners have been like ridiculous versus the run for like Several years now I'm saying when I'm running the ball.  They're getting held and it's one of the reasons why I don't like running dollar anymore because I just can't I can't stop to run out. I can't do it anymore. Like people just pound inside zone And if I don't make a ridiculous play with my user, then it's 10 yards really And that's pretty much how I feel about db's and stuff. So I don't know. Well, just like I said anything that helps fits and people like that And to to to be competitive man, I just I hate the run I don't know because for me to run it's just it's not as as much of a chess match as passing the ball.  Like that's how I feel. I kind of I kind of feel that because Just I've been watching people play. I would just watch cleft play all day And I'm looking at myself every damn route on this field is open. I feel like it's really not hard Just make sure you don't go near to use when you're cool because these these route comes in the cloud The cloud flat just pretty much it just sits there and makes you hold a ball Longer. It doesn't really cover any route to me and I feel like yeah If you just put these schemes together call the right play at the right time I mean, it's really not That much that's well, that's I don't care if somebody passes the ball every play But I know if I know what play you're running There's no there's no way I shouldn't be able to think of a way to stop it I don't tell you and that's part of the reason why I always argue for for cross man That's the argument. That's the exact argument that I put I remember I wrote an email after we had that we had the EA little competitive summit They said we took out cross man.  It's just tough and you're right I do feel like if I know what plays coming I should be able to stop it now I don't think it's as bad as it used to be but but you're right There are players I feel like you were in the whole game and get away with it Honestly, especially those bunts with the corner rock post round flat rod drag. It's like good luck at this point Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like uh I don't know like this year. I think it's a little bit harder to pass but even still it's like It's the same. It's the same thing like everybody's doing the same thing It's just I don't know like and that's why I think when running the ball is I didn't have to be great But when it when it's like decent and you know I can't I can run inside zone versus dollar unless they load up with their user And I think that creates some sort of scheme chess match You know what I mean? Like I feel like there's been no like very little Like chess matches like schemes put into anything in the last couple years just because The the run game has been unpredictable like Yeah, you may break a run, but it's it's going to be it's going to be lucky if you do, you know what I mean I'll tell you I agree with that the run game is a lot More unpredictable than the pass game whereas the pass game is pretty much like you say You pretty much know what you're going to get with the coverage You know if you see the right coverage, you know what they're going to do You know what they're going to cover what they can cover and what they can't cover You know and that that's pretty much and that happens every snap is pretty much the same thing Whereas the run that is unpredictable and that is where my point is that it's lucky If it's something good happens, it's lucky for the offense. If something bad happens, it's lucky for the defense It's completely dependent on the game You know and to me obviously, okay, you said you can make a right call like okay the box It looks like I can run the ball, you know, it's third and sixth I can run inside zone for 10 yards But god forbid if the game doesn't if the game gives me bad animations I won't get that but if the game gives me good animations, I get a first down So that's why to me runners runners depend on the game more than a passer They depend on madden helping them more than a passer or not helping them, but not hurting them You know, it just depends so much on what happens in the animations in the blocks in the front You could say the same thing about block shot though, like if I shot it Oh for sure, block shots are lucky, you know, if you get an instant one that's lucky for the defense I feel like I'm not as dependent on that when I'm not as dependent on the game Helping me or the game being in my favor as I am when I as I am or as a runner is I think they need the game more in their favor than a passer does helping them And that's why I feel like, you know When you help the runners, then it makes it harder for somebody that can pass the ball and Differentiate their game that way, you know, and it keeps everybody bottled down Because if you help the runners, then it's going to make the game shorter So it's going to make everybody in the same everybody be able to compete and everybody I don't agree with that though Like you you shouldn't be able to play about a game and never run like never run the ball once I mean, it's not it's not like I think I don't I don't agree with everybody would be in the same pool if if running is good Like that is like that's crazy to say like like it's you should be able to find ways to stop the run Like outside of your dude block setting like if you say if you say like I need to I need my dude to block set or I can't stop the run like that's on yourself So so I I don't agree with that at all like I don't like if anything the last few years have been pass having you would agree. No Like not man 18. You don't think that not madden 18 What was that the truck? Yes, and the juke and man challenge. I lost the joel juke my first player every damn time Yeah, I feel like I feel like a lot like in madden 18 I feel like you had to pass the ball like I agree. I agree running like there was glitches You know what I mean like the the truck the truck thing But like really that that didn't really come out until It was already decided who was going to be at the madden ball and stuff you like that You know what I mean in the man challenge was the juke the first person every time no matter what that little left trigger juke or the One juke just threw right by the first person every single time You know, but that was that was way but that wasn't just running though You can ask it anything but at the same time it made I just feel like I lost the joel Because he just ran the ball every single play and it's like if it was and it was like It's beyond first because I would just get juke the first person juke's juke's juke's Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think that that stuff helps the that stuff helps the pass to like Oh, yeah, the juke's for sure because everybody could kind of do Yeah, but I just felt like 18 you could win because of that, you know Yeah, definitely juke. I juke five people with Devin has to one time on a drag Yeah, so you'd have left it the little left bumper left trigger juke was pretty crazy But I don't think there hasn't been a game. I mean those clothes has been pretty good But it's just I feel like when the run is good it shortens the game I think dude's clothes was only good because You don't see it as often. You know, I mean like you don't see it as often So you don't really think about it But I mean once you have dudes close to you have dudes close to you know what I mean And it's not you don't gotta do nothing cute It's not you don't never really gotta change it like I already did there's one set up and you'll bag all dudes close Exactly, you know, that's how it goes But I just like I said fits fits is going to be my gauge for what they need to patch For pretty much the rest of my life Like I want to say is fits good and if they say no fits sucks Then I want to go ahead and be all right man's good right now They say fits is popping people we got to find out what he's doing and get rid of it You know because he's kind of brain dead And you know if he can pop then everybody can pop But that's just how I feel about the run, you know, I just I hate it But it definitely has a place in Madden and uh has always been a huge part of the game. Honestly, so We'll definitely uh See how it goes Like I said, I've been playing much so I haven't run into the run I think the run sucks when anybody comes out in the run. I feel like it's terrible Yeah, the run isn't good. That's what I say like people complain about the run But it's really not good. The arm bar is good. You know what I mean?  I mean, yeah, so For I just feel like it's too easy to do I feel like anybody can do it. I feel like even the double juke was was it took stick to to an extent for sure Like the arm bar is not fun. The double juke is was fun And you know clown people like and it was some people were good at it Some people were great at it. Some people sucked at it and some people couldn't even do it The arm bar the arm bar. I can get my girlfriend here.  It's just way too easy That's pretty much My big thing is like when I have z 101 with the cornerback I do expect to win You know what I mean like if I'm one on one on that side like the cornerback should win at like a 10 percent Yeah, 10 15 percent rate like And I would say that's probably about what it is. You know what I mean? But but the problem is my dude is my dude my dude is getting faster after he does it, you know what I mean like If I win, I mean at least when my dude falling for it I don't want my dude just getting set up, you know what I mean because because then that's lucky You know what I mean at the end of the day that is lucky when when some bum cornerback Is just like standing me up on the outside that is lucky whether you want to Yeah, I think it is or not that that's not what's supposed to happen right there Animation animations are are lucky to any extent. They really are all around the board Whether you're chasing a wide receiver user a wide receiver and they get a good animation and not get a pick Or do you get stuck in the animation where they both go for the ball instead of you just jumping in front?   We're on to the next madden. There's no point where we're playing the same game for sure, and then We do have to remember that They're going to make the game they're going to tune the game and pass the game to what they think is going to keep people playing Not not what we think is right. They want more people playing the game So if they if the arm bar is tough and kids love arm bar, guess what? We're going to be punching people in the face It doesn't really like the debate doesn't really matter because they are they are patching 100% You know what I mean? Yeah, so we'll see but like I said they do it for to keep people playing the game Whether it's eight year olds 18 year olds or 88 year olds whatever's playing the game whatever's going to keep people playing the game That's how they're going to patch it Yeah, you know Yeah, but I feel like every time they they won't go in there just to change one thing though They're going to they're going to get a little list Arm bar might be at the top of the list So on twitter might be at the top of the list less improve offensive line They're going to do something and whatever they do in the past. It has broken some other shit in the game So we'll see and we'll definitely have a list probably before and that's what they call the 30 day patch And I've been told sitting in the meetings With wrecks and rest of us listen the first 30 days we want people playing the game So the shit's going to be easier. That's madden 18 madden 18 came out It was easy as you could throw anything you could close your eyes pick a button and complete passes And that's when okay 30 days in everybody's been playing the game now. Let's tune it and bring in 91 zones So pretty much every pass over 10 yards is a pick and that's how it was like that's pretty much how it was And they keep it That was like the hardest one past the ball. Yeah, man. I remember playing I remember playing joke joke came into uh, the man classic using the falcons And I was so happy he was on the falcons because the falcons sucked compared to the seahawks Where earl earl and sherman and dude, I was like, I just hope he keeps using the falcons But he saw Hell yeah, because he was tall as shit or you couldn't throw and you couldn't pass anything It was like every time I passed I was like, please just leave the drag open because And that was all bro, too Like that was before people was even playing all matter That was all bro and they were like the only people that could defend anything Yeah, that was definitely so I think we're on the verge of maybe having something like that because I do feel like the zones are On that level of man 18 to where I can I can go corner routes on I just I can close my eyes and complete corner routes right now So for me, I feel like we could get to that 30 days in But that probably is going to be after the man classic.  We don't are already done Like just already they're already in my inbox like like dude It's like I don't know it's like how do you ask for feedback? Feedback, but you already have the first four patches done like what does that mean?  What do you think about fumbles? it's like What Like how does that actually gauge? Anything and I'll tell you about fumbles one people will always say it's too many fumbles Because you never remember the fumbles that you get but you remember all the fumbles that happen to you So people think about fumbles as a negative thing for me. I want to I love it I love being able to hit people. I love people who haven't been to be afraid I want them to be afraid of running the middle of the field the last two years. They've never been afraid at all Shit, they put since they put the conservative thing man 18 man 19 You've never been afraid of fumbling and now for like it's a good thing It's been it's been a thousand people and you're never afraid of defense And I'm never in favor one thing since I've been playing man I've never been in favor of making defense worse Because the worst defense gets defense are already too hard Shit, you've got all these rock. It's just corner route post route drag route Like it's hard enough at least let me hit somebody and make them afraid So then I'm spinning and juking all over the place And also I'm perfectly fine with where fumbles are at right now Yeah, my my only issue is like uh, like I said computer fumbles and I mean I agree like when you throw over the middle I I see I agree. Yeah, you might not have time to get down. Well, guess what? That's how that's how like and it wasn't that great of a pass It wasn't that great of a pass then if you don't have time to get down You already know you're fitting it into a tight window if you're getting hit without having it without being able to do anything Like it's unfortunate when you fumble don't don't get me wrong, but it's not something that should never happen You know what I mean? Yeah, like And but along with that is like I I think that the they're back to the like last year the uh The possession catch you could still hit them They're back to the maddening that you can't touch. Yeah, it's like you and it I kind of like these are throwing these wheel routes in between like four zones where I I know I'm about to just I'm about to just I'm like, please throw it right there and they fall down It's turning into where I have to lurk that rather than my zone that's really in decent position Is probably going to make a play But he's just throwing it in between all the zones and he's just able to fall down Like they're back They're back to just never dropping the ball on the possession like never being able to touch the possession Which I agree it was a little annoying last year. Like when you possession caught and they'll just Crack you but I think that I think it was probably a good thing in the end Well last year as far as being able to hit position Yeah, like being able to touch like being able to touch someone like yeah, but I do like and they talk about in the chest Fumbling on conservative now this happens to me because I've been playing on conservative probably the last 100 games but for me I mean, I think Setting where you could never fumble is a bad thing. That's how I was in man 18 I remember man 18 man classic He's just running right into camp chancellor and that's before they took away your moves You could put it on conservative still juke and truck and all that and just and you could never fumble So it was kind of outrageous. So I think you I mean obviously you shouldn't fumble as often on conservative And it should be a low chance But at the end of the day if a man's trying as hard as possible to hold onto the ball But somebody hits him in the mouth hard enough.  It's going to happen You know just because you're on conservative doesn't mean you can start trying to you know, stop and go and juke into 100 Yeah, that's exactly what I would say like these just want to go on conservative and just try to stop and go everybody When in reality when you stop and go that's my job fumble the most That's when you should fumble the most you're stopping all your momentum and then you're picking it up again Just to take a hit you should fumble more often there than you should almost any time Yeah, yeah, so for me for me. I think you should be able to fumble It's super sucks when you're on conservative and fumble But you should be there shouldn't be a mode where it's impossible to fumble because at the end of the day That's football and we have to remember that you know football's super goddamn random like super random Uh, and it's always been like that and and as much as we want man to not be random Football is super random and that's the most entertaining thing about the sport really If we want to talk about like real life and and stuff like that it's like In real life the only people who really take hits who don't avoid hits are the running backs Everybody else on the field tries to avoid getting hit every single player You know what I mean like yeah, no not even wider streams They're trying to they're trying to cover up the ball and get down like almost always Yeah, they're always trying to get out of bounds. Yeah, so Yeah, it's definitely I think you should still be able to I think fumbles are fine right where they are I wouldn't touch I mean I said I haven't played much of regs probably about 10 15 games Uh an armbar for me. It didn't work. I was pissed my armbar was broken. Maybe I don't have it right spammy stick Gotta ask for this magic how he's winning games but uh Playing bad players. Yeah, but fancy you can't you can't say there shouldn't be fumbling on conservative I mean for me, it's like Don't you don't get hit that bad You know, you can't have a mold you can't know that where you could just never fumble It just makes it takes all the all the intensity out of late game situations out of people stopping to run Okay, the only way he can win is get a fumble.  I mean it has to be small, but it can't be impossible to fumble. I feel like that's bad When someone says they don't want to fumble on conservative that just tells me that They want to stop and go they don't they don't yeah, I don't care about you can Hey, you just want to try to stop and go everywhere like Oh, if you get just obliterated, you should fumble the ball. I don't care Like it's not like you're covering up the ball. You're literally you know what you're doing You know what I mean? Like let's not like they're they're trying to take hits You know what I mean? They're trying to to have these high risk plays without the risk But that's what kind of makes it silly for me. I agree like I think fumbles I think fumble should be a part of the game. You know, it is unfortunate Like when you throw a pass over the middle, it I agree you get hit It's unfortunate you fumble, but that's that's the reality though. You know what I mean? Like it's That's that's football. That's literally zone. Yes. You know what I mean? Like that's that's exactly That's why you put that's why you put Bobby Wagner in a hook curl or Bobby. Why you could they hit somebody Really? And that's why you know why receivers don't like running over the middle in real life because Bobby Wagner's there You know, so for me, I'm definitely cool. Definitely cool where the fumbles are I'm just any we'll see I Like I said, I haven't seen all I saw I saw the arm bar. I didn't see it I would I never felt the arm bar in person yet. I haven't felt the power of it. I tried to use it I for me.   So it didn't work for me So, uh, just the videos I've seen it seems pretty old D And you know, we'll see we'll definitely see how it goes Uh, we'll see how the patch works if they patch it But I just want to keep playing the game and I I think you would agree It's fun playing a game now when everybody's everybody's trying to learn the game Everybody's kind of ass and kind of still good at the same time It's a different type of game than it will be in in a month for real. Honestly Yeah, I agree But so you want to be at the man classic Oh for sure, man. How do you feel about the mcs?  Well, I wish it was for all the tournaments though. You know, is it just for the man classic I'm pretty sure the way they made it seem is like that was the big thing about the man in classic You know what I mean? So I would say I would say that it probably is, you know, I mean Like I said, I still feel like there's some things that they could probably Clear up because I kind of I don't understand. You know, is it just for the man classic? That's what they made it seem like now Now double elimination is cool I don't have a problem with that. I would always have a problem if you did some best two out of three I hate that shit for a tournament, but double elimination is cool the the biggest downside Is that I say I played the winners bracket, right?  Like the losers bracket final But it's always gonna be some type of weight. Yeah, but if it's just an hour I mean that you're gonna have well that anyways, you know what I mean? You're gonna have a weight anyways at some point So it's like I think they they could do a little bit better and I hope that they do, you know, I'm pretty I don't know. I feel I feel good about it for in comparison to probably like how I would probably use normally feel I think that they they kind of understand like Yeah, and I've probably been queried with maybe they could probably do it like Almost a three-day event or even Like Friday had a first bracket Saturday You had a losers bracket then on sunday afternoon. You got a championship or something like that Uh that waiter the downtime isn't that big a deal Because one of the biggest things with these double elimination tournaments that we've seen in the past Is that it's so goddamn long and it's one night that it ends up ending at four in the morning or 7 a.m. You know, and that that's never going to be an option. So It's definitely gonna be tough. We'll see how it works. Uh, I'm excited for man classic So you liking the cowboys right now Yeah That's that's who I'm gonna use almost for sure Why I played with them today and I sucked with them and I said it's a reason why I never picked them I was terrible. I don't know The problem with them Is that they have the abilities, right? So I want to throw the ball to zeke every time I just want to give him the ball So it just messes up my offense because I'm forcing him the ball and then defensively All right, I had the mark of Lawrence. It's like, okay, let me just rush three people because I don't need the bullets I don't need to do nothing cute Yeah, and then it's like it just messes up my how I play You know, but I like the browns and but the browns are kind of the same thing really Yeah, I feel like they're pretty similar. Yeah, I said they have odell And this and densel ward, but I guess the cowboys have The oven who anthony brown and your boy Byron But for me densel ward is just aw man like the user and him And that that's a big difference I think it's an even bigger difference between the linebackers and safeties when you use them. I think that's like Night and day when you use somebody super agile compared to somebody that's just a big bulky linebacker Yeah I'm excited about the mcs. It's a Seems pretty cool. Seems like they didn't change much from last year Uh, I feel like they give the club series even more money You know, how do you feel about the the payment structure? I feel like You could like again, you could win the club series and then have more money than everybody else You know, yeah, well, I will say like the last hermit. I think that I would assume that they're gonna change it because it's like 20k to third and fourth for this is the madden ball It's like 20k to third and fourth and then 25k to second and then 65 to first I feel like they should probably like either they give less money to third and fourth or take some money off first Like the third and fourth shouldn't be that close To the second instance. Yeah, yeah, skimbles are the same thing. We had the same exact thought like yeah, that's too much like that's too much It sucks because you know like Everybody just avoids each other and then uh, you know, it normally ends up for a pretty cool Final 32 or whatever. Yeah, but at the same time it is still like Oh, it's just like a lot of random like do you do you pick your favorite team? You know what I mean like I would like to use the cowboy.  I think I'm playing dreamy.  So it's like I don't know. You just it just kind of it's a little bit silly But I obviously understand why it's the most money like to to be given out because it's like what the teams Put their money towards or whatever, but even then it's like I don't feel like we do You know, it's not like if I choose the cowboys.  It's like like it's not like they're putting a lot behind it even still, you know It's just a tournament. It's like, I don't know when some teams do some teams do more And I think that skimbo has always been a he's a The patrons don't do enough blase blase. So he's always thought about doing another team You know because some of these teams and you know when they have the event To they take care of the people a little bit more, you know, they just a little bit They more prizes more, you know, they just promote it more. It's a better opportunity And uh, so that could come into people's decisions. But speaking of that Jay bird, you know, he went up and he's making a whole spreadsheet He got a whole spreadsheet of where everybody's playing club series at, you know So they can try to find the easiest club series to go to So if you guys are playing it's the Madden bowl gave out the most money. I would probably challenge, you know I would probably do the heart.  So it's like I don't know. It's it's it's a tough. It's a tough bout like I don't know. That's one thing I don't like but the reality is there should be more money everywhere else You know, I mean it just shouldn't be The one tournament is like really the end all be all it's like I'd say well, I'd be cool if they were all all four of them were the same money 100% like 60 and the loser get forward. I'd be cool with all four of them being exactly the same Bro, I wish honestly, I wish that we had 20 50k tournaments And it was first place, you know first place gets paid. You know what I mean?  Yeah, it's like Yeah, so we'll see our goals I thought that they were going to take like a more online direction Honestly, like with the mcs like I thought that they would I thought there would be like an mcs like online event Yeah, what they've killed online mad and dude, that's just dead As good as it was in mad 17 even mad 18 was pretty good They pretty much killed it outside of last chance But even last chance was a little bit weak compared to what I thought it was going to be last year as far as online ladder play and uh Just playing the game in general really? So we'll say I'm that's what I'm disappointed as somebody that wants to stream mad and play this shit all day The lack of leaderboards is something that hurts that upsets me, but Oh, yeah, I know the leaderboards are starting. I don't even care. I don't even care to make up my team right now You know, I mean, I'm just I know I can just play in a in a month, you know, I mean in two weeks and be up there. Yeah So it's like Yeah, they've man, there was nothing like the top four.  That's what I'm saying. Like I was I was so invested.  Who's playing who Who's is someone cheating? You know what I mean? Like are they are they cheating? Oh, this person's cheating.  Like that stuff is fun to me. You know what I mean?  So I mean, I'm disappointed about leaderboards.  Like the that's the only way you really have to even guide for because club series is like There's going to be like 12 people like literally that that you have to be ahead of or something. You know what I mean? It's like I don't know at least DC little boards. You need to do something like it'd be cool if they made the DC Leaderboards like a top four type of deal. Yes. Yeah, I think it did that man 18. They did Last year was They had those like Challenger events to where like you would get the same placement as if you placed top four online So it was like you could either do good. You could either be in the finals of that one of those or You could grind for top four or top 16. It's like there was different different uh rewards Yeah, I mean us Definitely was cool. I I don't know where they'd taken the feedback from because I think all of us were in favor I think everybody alive is in favor of top four matter or something. Um, I think they just don't want to police it Maybe I think that and I think the club series like I think the club series kinds of throw throws a wrench because it is the most Money, you know what I mean? So it would be you can't really do a top four from the club series Yeah, but like you said First of all, I said it last week that the mad classic 18 was was perfect. I don't know why They ever changed that but then we uh You could still do top four for draft champions, you know or top 16 or top whatever it would whatever it would be You could still do it You know because god forbid even even last year for people didn't even care about being top 60 If you were in the top 100, that's all that mattered, you know Because and you know people were trying to figure out like where they would be Seated but even that was a pain in the ass to figure out You're never gonna know you'll never know so they put out the bracket like that's the biggest thing It's like that's the biggest problem with not having that top four top 16 is like you really don't know where you end up Yeah, because no one cares and like you could play your friend in the first round Which you could have easily avoided if you knew there was any yeah Even if they made like top 64 skip around or top 16 skip two rounds or something like that, you know not just make Make us have to play the game You know, I feel like that's important and obviously we're gonna play the game, you know against our friends and everything But I like having to play the game for me. That's a that's an important part of the mcs important part man Yeah, it keeps you like where you have to guard like where you have to play for sure So we patch on the armbar tomorrow that's important Because I'm not trying to lose the fits if I lose the fits in another man.   I enjoy I'm having fun um But I appreciate you coming by anything else you want to talk about We're probably in more agreement than You know, it would seem oh, yeah, because I mean at the end of the day We all just want a good game really, you know, I just don't want I just never wanted to run to be overpowered.    I tell you that much Uh Pretty much every year Every successful tournament I had I've definitely run the ball for sure But at the same time, I hate it because it keeps it. I feel like it keeps everybody to a certain area, you know I don't know But yeah, I got you But like I said, I appreciate you coming on. Sure. We'll have plenty more talks in the upcoming most here as it is mad in season All right, man. Have a good one. All right, buddy So yeah, so that's that's serious more probably the biggest component for the uh arm bar Or really just being able to break tackles, which I mean, I guess I agree with uh I personally feel like the juke works.  I don't know about you guys, but I feel like I can't juke the computer. Um And I don't want the run to be good. I feel like it makes other people It makes everybody pretty the same skill level. Um But at the same time, he said that you gotta find better run defense And I think that is something that that good man players have Uh, so that's a good point. So I think the arm bar is too easy I think it should take timing. I think it should take finding the right angle to punch somebody in the face And I think shoot If you do step on somebody you should slow down It shouldn't be a turbo like that or some outrageous Animation where they're going that much faster when it started, you know, that's pretty much how I feel about it MCS. I'm excited. Double elimination seems pretty cool. I hope they find the right way to do it. So it's not Uh, so spread out from the first place winner playing the winner to lose a bracket Um, I wish there was more money in MCS. I could say that a million times I could, you know, write it on the wall. I could spray it in the air Whatever it may be, uh, it seems like this million dollars is what we're going to flirt around as far as money for a long time So my voice is about going I don't know why I feel like I've been streaming and playing the game for all week uh Definitely probably gonna need a little rest But uh, this was the needed podcast episode 40 I do got a lot of things man. Both of the ebooks are already out on madden turf If you guys are in the chat now, you can check them out if you're on youtube check them out If you're on soundcloud check out madden turf.com for the ebooks Definitely signed my man boo painter to uh needed gaming this week. Um, the best 2k player in the world Going to be the biggest 2k streamer this year excited about that We will talk about more about that when uh, 2k season kicks off as we are expanding to other games other avenues And you know other places to get views and attention and stuff like that. So for me Just a step in and growing my uh My business and the plan and everything so But like I said, if you're on youtube hit the like button had to talk to mo about the new game He was pretty much the biggest component for for the armbar. Uh Uh We'll see how it goes. I hope you guys are enjoying the game I hope all you guys have your mud teams down pat Ask me one player you need ryan shazier. If you're getting the team captain pick ryan shazier That's what I asked you. So this was the needed podcast episode 40 hit the like button