So good evening everyone, I am Eduardo Jorgensen and today I will be speaking about predictive algorithms to detect future risk of chronic pathologies such as diabetes, but I will also talk about healthcare innovation. So I need to give you a little bit of context first. I studied medicine with a strong focus on neurosurgery. I'm currently the CEO at MediXen, a health tech company that I co-founded in 2015 and thanks to which I have managed to gather some recognition from key opinion leaders such as being the Spanish innovator of the year 2017 by BMIT or 430 under 30 in 2018. And I am passionate about innovation, especially in the healthcare industry and oriented towards improving quality of life with technological tools. And my path in innovation started in medical school while I was still a student when a little girl with diabetes rejected the insulin treatment in the hospital consult where I was arguing that she hated needles. She had to inject at least three times per day, which means over 1,000 injections per year. And on top of that, she never knew if her glucose was going to be safe or not. So she had to make uncertain decisions and calculations around insulin administration. So she couldn't have a normal life. It was kind of a horrible life indeed. And she rejected the treatment. So with all that information, I managed to gather a team of four amazing founders, two medical doctors. I studied with Patricia in medical school and two telecom engineers with whom I studied from low school and middle school, including playing in basketball together. So we really knew each other, which was very nice to start a company together. But we also shared that same passion to solve the problems of that little girl and improve the quality of life. And we were able to come up with an elegant solution and noninvasive artificial pancreas for diabetes, which may sound very fancy, but in the end, it's just a hardware device to deliver insulin to the patient and a software part to calculate how much insulin does the patient need in each moment. So in the end, the cool part about the hardware technology is that we were able to create a needle-free smart patch for painless drug delivery through the skin. We invented a small piece of technology that can open micropores in the skin. And it works generating harmless sand waves that increase the size of the natural pores in the skin temporarily, pushing big drugs through and closing again once we stop the device. And we built that piece into a wearable smart patch, completely free of needles. It can work with multiple different drugs, like insulin, heparin, antibodies, vaccines. And in a typical use case, they usually refills the device with traditional drug syringes or presentations, places it on the arm or the abdomen. And when activated, it takes less than one minute to fully deliver the required amount. It is completely safe and painless to use. And it has two components, a durable part that includes the electronics in charge of generating the skin permeability, which is there to last for over three years. And then it has a disposable part that includes the drug reservoir and adhesive, which is there to be changed after each use. So what the user would do is with a normal syringe injects insulin in the cartridge and then inserts the cartridge in the device and places the device on the arm or the abdomen, activated and gets insulin. This is a significant improvement from what's already out there because currently syringes are not only painful, but they also generate social rejection. Insulin pumps are really uncomfortable because you have to insert a catheter in your body and keep it there for 24 hours a day. That catheter can get obstructed, so it tends to fail frequently in the end as well, and these are expensive devices. And inhaled insulin is not better because it increases the risk of lung cancer. And then we have alternative innovations for drug delivery, like jet injectors, which are not wearable, micro needles, which is still invasive, and implants, which aren't safe for drugs like insulin because in the end you cannot trust that a dangerous drug like insulin, you cannot trust to have a dose for one week inside your body without any control on that dosage. You need to have some way of knowing the amount that's going to be released, activated at its time, and that's something that cannot be done with those implants and smart drugs. So the future is around ultrasound smart patches. And in part because it will also allow to focus on specific verticals, we won't have to regulate, like a new drug would have to pass five years of trials. If we want to have a smart patch for antibodies, heparin or insulin, we just have to do very easy tests to adapt those molecules, to adapt the reservoirs for those molecules and be able to release it to the market. So it also allows to sign future agreements with pharmaceutical stakeholders. So far we have been able to validate it in vivo, proving that when we inject insulin with our smart patch, it reduces glucose on alive picks exactly at the same level and rate as when we injected with a traditional injection. So that has provided us with enough evidence to follow on and complete animal trials and start human trials next year in order to reach the C mark by 2022 and get to the market to eliminate needles by 2023. But this advice that will reach the market in 2023 is a manual smart patch. This means that the user will have to manually select the dosage that they want whenever they want it. But our ultimate goal is to be able to automate that device with a software that can autonomously decide when the patient needs what amount of insulin. And that takes a lot of time. We're expecting it for 2025, but the regulation is much stronger. We require not only to develop the software and have it accurately enough, but we also need to go through new trials with the connected pieces. So we're expecting it for 2025. In the meantime, we were required to develop the software in order to create that non-invasive artificial pancreas, which is that combination of the software and the hardware. So we build a glucose predictor and lifestyle manager for the patient that there are patients currently using this system. It is used through an app that's pretty easy to use. We've made it, we've kept it very simple in which they can either with voice commands or with text messages and tell a chatbot interface about their data, any data input that they want, either meals, ate a Caesar salad 30 minutes ago, or any additional data point that cannot be tracked automatically, because we can also connect to third party sensors and gather data from them in order to inform the system on how the glucose levels of the users are going or alternative data points such as the physical activity. And with all that information, we're able to provide customized recommendations, not only building a complete lifestyle plan with meals and physical activities that are suitable for the user and will account for all the weekly needs of a diabetic patient, but also with awesome functionalities such as the patient can ask, what happens if I drink a Coke in 30 minutes? Or what if I go for a 30 minute run right now? And the system will forecast the glucose levels for the next two hours in order to tell them, hey, if you're going to run for 30 minutes, you should eat some peanuts before because otherwise you're going to have a hypoglycemic event and this is how we can avoid it. So that's a real value that the user can see in our technology, reducing all their uncertainty and they can do that thanks to our predictive algorithms that are created based on a massive understanding of the physiological behavior of diabetes thanks to our medical team and through deep machine learning knowledge, because we have strong team members that have created awesome models in there. What we do is we analyze a time series of glucose, which is in the end glucose measurements, and we're able to augment that data in order to understand the future glucose predictions and also understand it, not only comparing with other patients, but with that same patient in the past. And this gives our patients more information. It gives them the ability to eliminate those calculations and uncertain decisions from their life. Now they know they have to eat some peanuts before going for a 30 minute run because alternatively they will suffer a hypoglycemic event, so they can feel safe, they can make safer decisions and that will lead to improved treatment outcomes. And this is also beneficial for healthcare providers, insurances and hospitals because in the end they need to get the patients to have better outcomes, but when trying to get to business agreements with these companies, we faced a couple barriers. The thing is that even though these healthcare providers generate huge amounts of data, they typically don't have access to the results of a blood test. They can only know that the patient actually took that blood test and that's for data protection measures. And in the end, most of the data ends up being rotten, unused, lost and not being taking all the value that could be out of them. So it's impossible for the healthcare provider to know which patient is more likely to suffer a chronic pathology. Is it Maria with risk of type 1 diabetes or is it Paul with risk of type 2 diabetes? It's impossible for them to know who will bring higher costs of care, so they have to make uncertain decisions on where to invest, where and how to invest time and money. So that's what our latest piece of technology is solving. We understood that our predictive algorithms were very good for the patient, but if we wanted to make some business with healthcare providers, we needed to adapt the technology a little bit. So we transformed it into a future diabetes or diabetes complications predictor. And what it does is we get the medical act. That's the data that virtually any healthcare provider in the world has available, because it's not sensitive. It's only you don't need to know the results of that blood test. You only need to know that the patient took it. So we will end up when we see the database data scattered all around, we will end up having this timeline of medical events that the patient had, medical interactions that the patient had with a healthcare provider. He went to the cardiologist, he took the blood test, went for an x-ray. And within that information, we're able to find hidden information. We're able to extract additional variables by creating an enriched layer that can add new variables such as frequency between blood tests or number of times that the patient went to see a cardiologist or total events that are associated to endocrinology. And those are new variables that were not in there before. And thanks to the analysis of massive amounts of data, of massive amounts of patients, we're able to predict which ones have risk of ending up in diabetes and what type of diabetes. So is it a 70% risk in three years of being an autoimmune patient? So you require an urgent care or is it a less riskier path and associated to a cardiovascular risk? This allows the doctors to understand the risk patterns of their individual patients, but also of their group of patients because they can end up saying, hey, which is the group of patients that associates more risk? And he will see, hey, patients over 65 years living in rural areas that don't have nutritionists associated to them. And in the end, this will also help the manager understand the potential return of investment by simply dragging and dropping variables on the dashboard to, I don't know, link risks and costs. He will be able to understand the ranking of riskier hospitals and which ones would benefit from a bigger risk reduction in case they hire an additional nutritionist or in case they change their policies of attending, offering three nutritional visits to patients per year to four nutritional visits on patients for a year. He will be able to understand the return on investment on those decisions, how much the risk will be reduced because we have all the previous data to back it up. So in the end, it's a predictive healthcare analytics and visualization tool to improve decision making, which is easy as dragging and dropping variables in a dashboard. Youthful as being able to predict future risks and costs and compliant with any regulation because we don't access sensitive patient data. We only need to know that the patient took a blood test, not the results. And it's highly scalable to alternative solutions, to alternative diseases because the minute we start looking for risky paths in medical acts for cardiology events or for lupus or for obesity, we can add additional layers of information on risk for the healthcare provider and our system will keep growing. But if we want to do it, we're definitely going to face some barriers, which are in the end the barriers that are facing virtually any medical device company. I would focus initially on one of the hardest ones, which is to really center the technology on the patient. We all like to say it, but it's a real struggle to find focus groups, be able to gather relevant information and feedback from them, transform that information into real actionable development, and then re-testing and re-engineering all around the process while the environment changes around you. Of course, if all the money in the world, all the resources in the world were available, everyone will test with their patients. I believe no one says, hey, I want to just, I think patient testing is not needed, just keep through with this technology. So despite being something that everyone recognizes, it's something that we still have to invest huge amounts of time and resources on securing. And it's mainly because there's a lot of security around medical data. First of all, around GDPR. This is a very important regulation, but it's also a very important barrier because, well, look at the technology that I just presented. This technology only makes sense because patient data is protected. If healthcare providers were able to access patient data whenever they wanted, for whichever reason they wanted to use it, our system with predicting future diabetes will probably won't have any kind of use for these healthcare providers because they will be able to build their own risk-predictive models and even say, hey, I can really know if this patient is a diabetic patient so I can update their policies and everything. So data protection is there for a reason. And while it's a barrier that we have to account for, it's still important. This is just a small note on something very silly, but true. It's a tremendous news.  And everyone would say, oh, wow, we need to protect this. And it's true. We need to build the security layers in order to make sure that this cannot happen. But technological progress involves risks. And zero risk is not possible in the medical industry. So these are going to be some of the challenges of the next few years, especially when automating this technology, because if you have an automated insulin drug delivery device that you don't have to worry about, it's making self-decisions. And all of a sudden, someone can connect and activate it. Problems can happen. So it's a complex environment. And it's also a highly competitive environment because there are huge stakeholders with billions in revenue trying to solve these same problems. Big companies are typically slow giants, but they're also pushing forward in the market. So one can try to partner with them. And it's typically good to establish those relationships. But one needs to be careful as well. And not only on the information that discloses, but also on the time that one invests in those operations, because it can end up consuming you if you need to adapt to their life cycle, to their time cycles. So it's definitely an additional risk in this aspect. One of the biggest ones is around the fragmented legal framework. Look, medical device regulation is even changing and it's being updated next May. And there are no clear guidelines on how to regulate certain medical devices. So there are a lot of companies and technologies that are really struggling to build their market plans, the market entry plans, because they can never know what sort of clinical validation they're going to need and how long it's going to take to get it or enter into the market. And all of these with limited resources, especially in small companies, which in the end is creating a horrible cycle of I need resources to get validation, but I need validation to get resources. And in the end, it's extremely difficult to break the cycle, be able to get out of it and secure that validation in a bootstrapped way or through partners or by public funding. So one is to create creative strategies to in order to secure the resources and validations required to enter the market. Probably the most difficult one to solve because it's likely to require time is the attitude of the individuals in the healthcare providers and public administrations when it comes to integrating new technology because despite the change in the trend and it's true that we're seeing more acceptance, we still see reluctance when integrating new technology, not even integrating, also when testing it. So I believe we still need to work on decreasing that risk aversion and being more hands on trying new technology that could benefit patients. And I think that the only way of doing it that is through innovation. And innovation in the healthcare, it's beautiful because in the end, you're trying to solve problems for patients and it's always offering a high return on investment. As long as you're creating value and the technology is going to be used, it's offering a high return on investment. So every one of us can become champions in our own organizations to lead that transformation movement and create or build new processes, technologies, do things differently that in the end are generating a cost-effective benefit for anyone, for someone, which is in the end what innovation is after. So if it's inside all of us and all of us can become the champions of our own organizations, we have to do it. I think that the first thing that you're doing very good is attending these kind of presentations because we're not going to reinvent the wheel in these places. We're not going to tell you or disclose extreme secrets, but what you're probably going to find is some good examples of innovation and ways to innovate and cultivate it. So if I could send one final message about what any one of us could do is to center technology on the patient. Not only say it, but invest real time and money on doing it. We're facing those challenges with a wonderful team with over 15 professionals, including engineers that come from NASA and MIT or a healthcare team that grew up in Phillips and Rush. Our business team may be relatively young, but we've been able to secure sales and we're advised by a strong team of key opinion leaders such as Young Brooks, the former CEO of the Justine Diabetes Center in Boston. And if you want to help us, you can always introduce us to healthcare providers like insurances or hospitals in order to perform some pilots with them. We have the software completely ready to test it and prove the value that it's offering. But we can also pilot with the hardware, with pharmaceutical companies. We can demonstrate them that with our smart pads, their drug can go through the skin with no pain. So, well, and always, we're always accepting funding and resources. So if you know anyone, let us know. So we really hope that you join us to shape the future of healthcare. I know that my presentation has been a little bit shorter than the others. I tend to talk a little bit fast, but I think it will be interesting to have more questions from the audiences available. I can always answer questions on the technology as well. So if anyone wants to ask around that, I'm happy to answer. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot. We have a first question here from the audience. They are asking about the possible effects in insurance companies. You are working with very sensitive data. You are going to be able to discover possible effects in the future. Do you think that the insurance industry will be affected in any sense with all this stuff that you and other companies are working with? How do you feel about this? Well, of course. I mean, partially the trend in the insurance companies industry is towards being able to understand an overall risk score or, yeah, score of the patient. In the end, they want to see, they don't want to see, hey, I paid this much of things for this patient this year. They want to try to understand how much are they going to have to keep paying for that patient, and this can impact in a variety of ways. Of course, there are wrong ways of using this technology in the means that you would say, hey, if they know that I will have diabetes in 50 years, they can always charge me more. Yeah, but they can always offer you that if you treat yourself better, charge you less, give you a discount on that, which is something that there are already some companies even in Spain starting to do it. If you sleep this amount of time, you will get this amount of discount. If you walk or do this exercise every day, you will get a certain discount at the end of the period. I think that it's one trend, but it's also offering one very important thing. One is that healthcare providers will be able to really understand risk and cost drivers and what has a real impact on their organization. It's something that they need and they want, but there's an additional real important point, which is it will be good for the patient. They will be able to have a more personalized access to healthcare, and additionally, they will be, I don't know if the audience knows that, but at least in Spain, if you have diabetes, it is extremely hard for you to get a private insurance to offer your policy and ensure you. It's not that you can pay whatever you want to know, it's that they don't take the risk. Our assumption in there was they don't take the risk because they don't know the risk. If we can make them know the risk, they will probably be able to ensure diabetic patients. That's our final appreciation on this technology. Another question is about how affordable this will be. Are you working in and trying to make these solutions you are working in affordable for everyone? Do you think that this could be solutions available all over the world, even in the third world, even in the asking specifically for some places in Africa or in the pure areas in Asia? Are you working in this and making this affordable? The technology in the end is relatively cheap to produce, so we'll be able to offer an affordable price, especially compared to the solutions that are today. I mean patients can be paying from 3,000 to 30,000 euros for an insulin pump. Our technology will be for the user. We plan to sell it on a business-to-consumer side, the smart pads drug delivery device for 100 euros a month in a subscription way patient will receive all the disposable cartridges. That's on the hardware and on the software. We plan on giving the glucose predictor free for patients until we are able to link it and integrate it with the smart pads. And regarding the healthcare provider's technology, the one that predicts future diabetes, that one will be as a software, as a service, depending on the databases of the healthcare provider on the sizes. And if it can be worldwide level, all of our technology can be worldwide level, but the smart pads itself, it can also, it doesn't need a phone to be controlled. You can also access it with buttons. So it can be included in programs like buy one for yourself and buy one for someone in need. So we're thinking about a bunch of strategies in order to make it accessible for everyone. The last question, I'm not a surprising one because there's a lot of tech people in the audience is of course about technology. So how is this technology, if you could give the facts some more details about the hardware, about the software, about how are you working from a tech side? Nice question. I didn't include it because it's a typical thing that the audience may hate, but I know that they ask. So the smart pads has a really cool technology. It generates ultrasounds with a very small piece and part of the innovation is on the size of the piece because up until today, you needed very big machines and connected through cables because they require huge amounts of power in order to be able to generate the required ultrasound or ultrasonic waves. So that's the first thing that is innovative. We've been able to reduce the size of the ultrasound generator. And what it does is that those waves hit the skin such as boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And that way we're able to loosen or dilate a little bit the pores that are naturally there on the skin. And when we loosen them, we create enough space for these big drugs to go through. So that's basically the way that the pads work. We've been three years doing research on the optimal setting of waves in order to make sure that all the drugs that we put there can go through and everything. And now we've been able to validate it in vivo with insulin and we have validation in vitro with alternative molecules. So we'll jump into animal trials with other molecules soon. And regarding the predictive algorithms, so what we do is I can get into a small detail about this because most of that is know-how. But the process of the healthcare providers algorithm, what it does is we get to a database that is typically a mess. I mean, there are healthcare providers that have good databases, but typically you find something that is hard to use. So when we get there, it would typically be required a lot of human work. And what we do is we have created a bunch of algorithms that can automatically understand those databases, not all of the content, but the relevant content, and create that enriched layer that's saying all those aggregated variables, combining that we can create up to 2,000 different variables. But some of them don't have any kind of interest, some of them are extremely interesting. And then we make sort of an engine between those variables and our predictive algorithms. Those predictive algorithms in the end are machine learning models that need to be adapted to the specific needs of the healthcare provider, but we know which options. We can use something like support vector machines. We can also use, I mean, it's not needed to enter into strong deep learning. Generally, if you have a complex environment, it might be required, but typically we've been able to sort out these problems without any kind of deep learning. So in the end, we produce that number that tells us if the patient is in risk of diabetes or not. And the number comes in a model that's associated to a certain timeline. That's it. So thanks a lot, Eduardo, for this great presentation. Enjoy the Iceland. Enjoy it in a reef. And that's amazing weather. Thank you very much. Have a wonderful day. Bye.


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Then we talk about How we think about maybe potentially ever becoming Life coaches because we know so much. Yeah, we want to coach you on everything. You want to do good in life Yeah, listen to me.    It's a correctional based maps program to correct karate It's our karate karate karate.  It is our correctional program Designed to correct imbalances in the body. We look at the wrists. We look at the neck the lumbar spine the hips The ankles and the toes. We also recruited The movement specialist dr. Justin Brink to help us with this program. It's amazing You can find it at mind pump media.com come to the end of the road It's great graduation for me. I can't Let go the mic just went away from me. That's too powerful. It's a natural You belong to me. I belong to you.  That's how I sing it So that song if you're a 90s kid like we are What I mean by 90s kid. We weren't born in the 90s.  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I'm like trying to talk with her She's like, why are you trying to say ignoring it?  Yeah, you know what I mean? It's official No, no, I think what was your favorite song though. I thought my mind was a Brian Adams. Oh wow remember remember the song for That's not even his best song dude. No, but it was summer one song summer 69 summer 69.  I'm so mad that I can't remember. I feel so I'm so sorry, honey Whoever you are. I'm so sorry.  I am a man. She's like, I remember the first time I danced with mine pump Adam In fourth grade Dude, I had a One of my very I remember that one of my very first girlfriends who I like because she was my first girlfriend So I totally fell for her right and Marie one of my very first girlfriends. You would date an amour would She would get like totally turned on Whenever R&B was on for whatever reason like if I put R&B music on like for sure. We're gonna get into actually works Yeah, with her it was weird. She's like, oh my god.   Were you sweating like crazy nervous as hell have to ask the girl go do this dance like how Important do you think these moments were in your life into forming your character now like because I think about this and how different it is like Yeah, I do I don't think the kids have to do the same thing where they Got to go ask the girl and and the text them. Yeah, they're right Really though, I do it all aloof.  Oh man.  Yeah, dude. Come on. Yeah How do you guys work? What was your deal? Like did you were the were you the one that leaned in or did she lean in? No, I were a mine was organized Mine was organized like her group of friends my group of friends. It was it was at the water slide park It was me. Do you had a crowd? Oh, yeah, there was like in front of everybody. Yes. Why because at that age There there is this you have to validate it. Yeah, and you need and you need that plus So what's the use of making out when nobody sees it and you can't prove it, right? Because you're at that you're talking about your girlfriend. Yeah, we're Alaska. What are we talking about here fourth? Fourth fifth grade time, right?  Oh, I remember that we it was all scheduled to happen at like So I just got this girlfriend and It was a couple weeks later. We were heading into like summer and there was the big You know our where we grew up There was a water park not far from us and they were you know had a school It was a school function, but we had a lot of freedom like there was you know chaperones and what that But I mean it's a huge water park so you could go fine areas and so it was like listen You're gonna go meet Emily over on the picnic bench You know after we get there and this and that and so there's this huge plant And I remember like coming around like the the grassy knoll and there's a there's there She is sitting on the picnic bench with like five of her girlfriends. Are you stressing out?  I'll kiss her.  It's about to go down And so it's funny because it was like she's like 50 yards away So she could absolutely turn around see me standing there with my five friends She's over on the picnic bench with like her five friends And then we're like sending one or two friends back and forth.  Okay, yo, he's ready. We're cool on this side. Is she cool over there on that side? Yeah, okay, okay.    No, this is going down, you know, so And so I remember walking over there and you know what I don't remember as vividly like All of that detail like I could I could picture it all in my head and then the moment between that and us Actually kissing and happening like I don't remember how I made the first move like did I grab her hand? Did I lean in on her? Was it like just as soon as I got over there like that part is like very fuzzy to me But I definitely remembered the lead up to it how sweaty my hands were how nervous I was to go over and do it And then the experience of doing it and then being like fuck.   Oh man No, dude, it was like actually your grade.  Yes, seriously No, it was fourth grade and we were outside of class and like I had had my friends ask You know adrian to go out with me and and be like my girl You know like that's what you did back then you said go around Remember that you want to go around go out. No, it's go out Go out with her. Oh, I said go around school. You're from sorry. Yeah. Yeah We call it go out. Yeah Can't really go out anywhere here.  So do you want to go around with me? I can't tell you how many times I said like I'm going out with that girl and we agreed But we like never talked or like Interaction all hundred percent so many times hundred percent. I remember.  No, man.   Like can we solidify this, you know Make this a thing And so she got all embarrassed, but she's like totally agrees like, all right, okay, you know, we can kiss I'm like cool.  She's giving me this whole backstory. I'm like, whatever, you know, cool Let's make it, you know, we'll make it quick whatever and after like school was out I remember this vividly. She was she walked down to the end of the ramp, you know those trailer, you know classrooms Like she was at the end of the trailer classroom And she was trying to be all cute about it and like like put her foot back and kind of leaned in with her Face all puckering up like Like that. I was like, I looked at her like, what are you doing?   You know what I thought you think about when I think of fourth and fifth and sixth grade The insecurities Most awkward seventh eighths all the way up to eighth grade. Oh, totally right It wasn't until high school did I break free from this of that's that time when You're not sure how developed you are as a young boy Like I'm a boy starting to make his way into manhood You know just starting to get armpit hair a little bit of hair on your legs and I remember girls that age I was the first one with pubes. Oh, I Seriously between me and my friends and cousins.  Yeah, they mature so much. So all of a sudden womanhood is here for them And we're still young boys, right?  What happened like boobs.   That's absolutely hilarious. I remember that's why hugs were so popular Right, do you remember that you remember that phase where it was just like, you know, before I see sweaters before I leave school I went around and like I remember being thinking you had so much Hey, you just get so many hugs before I leave before I leave camp it's like all the hugs Oh, totally. I was that guy. Let me let me hug the seven girls before I leave real quick, you know I'm the man. Yeah, right. I used to have a wallet when I was a kid. This is funny Right. I don't know if you guys did this and I had a picture of like every cute girl, you know And in your in your grade, right?  Yeah. Yeah, totally, right? And then before I left school every day made sure go around make sure I got my hug See you later Lisa. See you later Emily later. Tonya. My first my first kiss was much Much later than you guys. I think yeah, I like this mine was seventh grade That's see what's weird is that you you beat us to the pubic area But you didn't as far as skipped right past. Yeah, I was having sex, but I didn't make It's like how's an anal Are you guys no, no, no, no, no seven seventh grade and there was this girl Kiss her first, bro. It's not growing up There was ramp it up. There was this girl in my class that her name was Claudia And she was uh, I was totally didn't like her at all But she was totally into me. So I was like cool. I get to make out now Like I didn't even like her But we just sat there and made out like two days in a row and then I told her I don't want to kiss you anymore And that was it. That was the first time. Yeah, I'm over it. Yeah, I don't like the taste Why'd you make that accent? Hey, I don't like the taste Hey, lady, I don't like it taste. I don't like your I don't like your mouth.  You know what I mean? Well, I don't like that now that I have kids Yeah, you think well, I mean for boys around that I remember being interested fourth fifth grade, man Oh, yeah, but I didn't become serious interested until eighth ninth.  For me, I do for me being the late bloomer. I didn't have pubes in fourth grade like you did like it I didn't say you have a fourth grade. You know, I don't know what greater was Yeah, it was yeah, it was later. It was later for me. So once I had put it together that okay I'm for sure a man like in that and that drive kicked up like my best friend at a mustache You are awesome, right? Yeah, right. He was the first to go bald. There was like one kid There's always that there's always that one kid right sucks It is always that guy the guy that got the beard and the mustache Oh, he always got to go bald and that funny Yeah, I remember the the the distinct difference between the the junior high relationship going out going around whenever you want to call it courting and and How you hung out with and how you probably treated or you acted with your girlfriend versus High school. I went like polar opposites, right?     She probably won't lose weight for a couple months Where should you start with a person who is not athletic and has very little mobility? couple things if you don't if this person does not Have any of the maps programs, um, I mean now that we have maps Then we have maps prime pro which to me is Where I would start anybody that if I have a question if I'm concerned like with a client with a family member A friend a referral that comes to me and says You know very decondition aches and pains older. Not sure 100. I'm starting everybody with maps prime prime pro in that area Like let's find all the dysfunction that's going on their body. Let's find what they're capable They're not capable of doing Let's show them. Let's teach them the the simple basic movements That has nothing to do with weights and dumbbells and machines and extra and hardcore exercising What are some basic movement patterns? I can help improve this person's life dramatically Meanwhile, I know that's going to burn more calories which in turn will help burn more fat and I'm going to Improve their overall mobility. So a hundred percent I'm sending this person that direction first is to take them through that process And then, you know, they're I'm going to take them through probably like a maps Red type of structure, but I'm also going to modify it For somebody with that is like then that's why we did the pre phase in maps red, right? It's it's a regression to to for a lot of people that are jet that are super decondition And one of the most common mistakes that we have seen From people that are trying to get in shape is the over application of intensity and volume Out the gates and if you're somebody who's been sitting on a couch eating bad food and you haven't been training in the gym You really don't need to go in and do a whole lot at the beginning. So less is really more in that situation I think definitely prime prime pro To kind of assess and see, you know, where the dysfunctions lie, but really Just ramping up everyday activity like doesn't even matter, you know, what? Just standing up more moving more like You know getting outside hiking Doing house chores like like just this moving And and and you know tracking that process really more than anything With somebody in this You know specific case because You know if you get too If you get too focused on having to hustle to to produce a result You know, this is where you know down the road like she may regret that or may may compile upon And you know an impending You know potential injury or something like that that may you know unveil itself. So It and plus like this is half of the battle a lot of times is your new trainers like You know, do I give them exactly what they want? Which is just to run right and starve themself Or is it to actually, you know, make an impact that's gonna last a while That's the big that's really the the important part of this question is You as a trainer you're going to encounter lots of clients like this where they want they're going to tell you I need to lose 15 pounds in A month and a half because I'm have a wedding or I'm going to Vegas or I have an event that I need to get You know in shape for that's why I'm hiring you You as a trainer Know that if you do things the right way, they're not going to lose that 15 pounds very quickly Um, so what do you do? Well, here's my advice to you As a personal trainer This is for anybody, but as a personal trainer Do not compromise your integrity ever.  Is to educate them and teach them that you're going to do it the right way and no i'm sorry I don't train people the wrong way. I don't crash diet.   You've had too many procedures done This is getting dangerous. Well as a trainer They want that on the reputation as a trainer maintain your integrity if a client comes to me and asks me to Do something to them that's going to harm them. I'm going to say no I'm going to say no every single time now if this person has a Competition that they want to get into or they want to do something very very specific in that particular regard Well, that's very different, but I'm still going to educate them and teach them You know what we're doing is for for this particular You know specific thing and I think you can I think there's a pot There's a there's a way for you to kind of to give both right to give Your mom or give a client a little bit of what they're looking for which is results, right? They want they're obviously hiring or asking a Trainer for help because they want to see changed and they're not happy with and so You can start to make some pretty good changes that can make a difference in her overall health everything from mobility to her strength to Her eating habits and other markers like her sleep and energy Just by making some subtle adjustments and I think that sometimes our peers In our field over complicate this we we all Sit up in our ivy towers and we we debate over Who who is more right about this and there's this study that proves this is better than this and it's like We're all debating over these things that are like really the small tiny little rocks in the grand scheme of things and I think assessing your mom's eating habits and her movement patterns And getting her to improve upon a little bit of both every day a little bit more I think is it can be something that could alter her change her Give her great results by the time she gets to this cruise And you don't have to worry about potentially damaging her because you're not pushing too hard too fast And so I would you know as far as takeaways here Is I would Help her assess her eating and I would look at you know one to two things that I think that she can get better at I'll give you examples of when I look at diets very You'd be surprised how common certain habits are as humans. We tend to either gravitate towards the over consumption of You know sugar and carbohydrates. We tend to under consume good healthy fats If you're you know the average Jane Jane or joe tend to under consume on protein You don't exercise or move period enough So like those little things like giving mom a goal every day now.  That's it for the next week or two And mom instead of you I know you love this dessert and you do this a lot But I've looked at your diet and you're consuming 50 to 90 grams of sugar almost every day Let's cut back. Let's get rid of this and this and replace it with something more whole like this And let's do those two between the walking more and making that nutritional change Let's see how her body Changes in those next two weeks and then build upon that with that same type of mentality of choosing one to two things to improve her nutritional balance and one to two things to improve her overall movement And always lean more towards less is more and and you can just slowly continually build on that week over week Leading all the way up until this cruise time Quick commercial break. Hey people ask us all the time how they can support mind pump. Here's what you can do You can go to www.brain.fm forward slash mind pump and get 20 off brain fm for meditation or focus You can also go to audible trial.com forward slash mind pump and get a 30 day trial Plus one free audio book Lastly, you can go to go get nature blend.com forward slash mind pump and you will get a discount on ben greenfield's cbd product Next question is from prime and glorie With a growing success of mind pump. Have you found the need to check yourself in any aspect? I gotta check sal all the time before i wreck myself before you wreck Uh You beat me too. Yeah, I know do do I So for me, do I check myself on certain things? I definitely um, I definitely try to do this every single day regardless Of any success that we may find with mind pump. This is something I've been making A practice of mind for the last five years.  I've gone through some incredible personal challenges And uh through that process, um, I've learned to do this to myself almost every single day And it's helped me quite a bit One of the things I do in regards to mind pump is I'm always checking myself In the sense that I try to remember what what I feel my purpose is Or what drives me and everybody's got a little everybody's different in terms of what they feel the purposes are what that what drives them like for me I am not A money driven person typically now, of course, I like Uh, you know, I like money for the things that it allows me to do But I'm the last person to You know, I don't necessarily value lots of material things now. Can I I can depreciate them? But it's never really a big deal to me. I mean, I remember as a 19 year old general manager. I mean, this is back in 1999 I was making six figures plus living at my mom's house Had tons of expendable income and I drove a Volkswagen and I mean, I really didn't care the same one And I really didn't care Because uh, and I realized why I didn't care and I wasn't even aware of it at the time I remember people like dude, you could buy whatever car like my Corvette get it whatever And I remember like I just didn't do it and I didn't even pay attention to it But looking back which is impressive because we had a lot of buddies that were doing that around that time Yeah, I mean, I remember coming up the same time Early 20s and all your buddies that were making the same kind of money were Yeah, Corvette or Mustang or Camaro or something cool or whatever I just didn't because it just wasn't important to me, but I didn't realize it necessarily Now moving ahead now I have kids and have all these responsibilities money means is a little bit more important to me But you want a Lambo, but it doesn't it doesn't drive me. It's not my purpose And so I check myself in the sense that I remind myself of what drives me because and what drives me is is my message is Reaching out to people and influencing people. Hopefully in a positive way and really feeling Really feeling that I have a positive impact or at least trying to make a positive impact and I know that sounds all like fufu and you know You know esoteric or whatever, but for me personally when I remind myself of that the best me comes out That's when I do my best social media posts. That's when I'm the best on the podcast That's when I'm the most productive With the work that we do if I start to allow myself to become money motivated Then I start to actually decrease my performance because I'm not My true self So this is one of my motivations to to checking myself as well, which is kind of interesting, but Definitely just reminding myself of what is important to me and what's important to me are experiences And being able to make a positive impact For lots of people and with the subject that I feel like I know a decent amount about which is fitness and health Yeah, I tend to I mean I go through this quite a bit as well as far as like checking myself on a daily basis like you know, just just trying to be mindful of like recognizing people that have helped me along the way and like I mean there's been I could I can like name off a plethora of people that like come to mind that I just know like in pivotal moments of me, you know shifting or going from You know going off on to my own and doing training by myself for You know, I had certain clients that really helped me with that process and we're like like totally supportive with that and like had my like if it weren't for them, I wouldn't have been able to like, you know, really Flourish in that environment and and then also like learning how to I met, you know, certain people that Helped help me to reframe my thought process about how I charge and like how that like formed this entire business model that really worked well for me and You know, and then just like all these different like sort of pivotal moments Um, I just I can I can identify certain people that were there and so, you know, I try to keep like thinking about that like Who who's been, you know A part of like this next stage or the next sort of platform that um, you know, I'm going through and so Yeah, just try to like Not be arrogant and be like oh, it's all about me and like how much hard work I've put in and um You know, like I like a lot of times I'll get sucked into I'm working so hard Why is this not, you know, like flourishing and why isn't all this stuff happening and It's it's a process man. This is always a process and there's always gonna be somebody there that like You know, I'm leaning on so, you know, that's that's that's always a constant for me So I'm trying to like get back to that mindset like hey, man Just be appreciative like, you know, these people are here supporting you And and like this is a ride So you just got to you got to go with the ups and the downs and it'll even out I think we're all pretty similar with with that too. I think that I mean god, I'm I'm constantly Or we're constantly checking ourselves. I think that um We each pride ourselves on on being uh, self-aware men and and always Reflecting on things that we say we do uh, how we present ourselves how we come across like our relation our business relationships our friend Relationships our family relationships Those we love care about like I think we're always evaluating that and I couldn't ask to be with a better team of guys that not only do that To themselves, but help you do that with yourself in a in a very Non confronting type of way. I think that we each Always help each other in this direction of like paying attention to Our own egos, right? And I think we do it in a really Crafty way. It's pretty neat how everybody maneuvers around each other's egos because I think in order to have a show like this You've got to have these massive egos But at the same time this ability to have Unbelievable humility and I think the boys and I we all we all have this ability to do that.  We ever made and that's the hashtag that we used was zero fucks Everybody to post who owns that t-shirt, right, right seriously awesome. We should do we should do a little throwback And so that was our mentality. So when I think of checking ourselves, I sometimes Think that we have to check ourselves and to not lose that flavor of a little bit a little bit of controversy and and going after that because I feel like For a show which we are I think that that's an important Peace to it and sometimes when you get to a point where you have so many people Giving you their two cents.   And so one of the things I have to constantly check myself on right now or currently in regards to that Is uh, not allowing The few people To ruin my day and I get it now. I didn't get it before like I know I've heard people talk before on the on tv and stuff about how Little little wane will let his twitter fans You know ruin his day and he'll get engaged in it and like bothers him really bad And I kind of get it now because sometimes it can feel overwhelming when You know hundreds of people are firing at you about something But when you look at it in at the grand scheme of things A hundred is nothing when you're talking to millions of people So why would I ever allow you know a hundred people or 10 people or four people to affect my day?  I didn't come off the way they would like me to come off I they disagree with what I had to say And I just have to remember that zero fucks mentality that I am who I am and I'm not Going to apologize for that. Yes. I will always be checking myself and and evaluating Uh, how I come off, but at the same time too I don't want to change my message Because I'm afraid of what others will think of me and I believe that remembering to have that kind of zero fucks mentality Uh, and and that transparency. I think that becomes more important Than actually trying to deliver the perfect message that everybody receives and everybody likes Amen Tim imbo Feels like you all have evolved since the creation of mind pump Have you ever thought of being a life coach to help others achieve goals outside of health and fitness? Is there any More pretentious. I am a life coach. Yeah, it's like it's it's good of parties and like it sounds like the most That's a ballsy profession.  You're doing life Right, uh, no, you're doing it wrong. Let me not well enough.  We're definitely offending somebody right now That do very well. I don't know any life coaches I'd hang out with but for the most part this this term was Invented because there's laws against saying therapist And unless you're certified and licensed therapist, you can't say Therapist so they invented a They invented the term life coach and now anybody can be a life coach So it's funny when you read therapist on paper sometimes. Yeah, you get confused. Why the rapists. Oh my god. Yeah But Like to me when I had to trip me I never put that together until right now. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you everybody Knowledge bomb.  What's your name?   I'm an engineer. What do you do?  He just says struggling musician.  It's called personal trainer. Right. Let's be honest here like most of the when you're a personal trainer most of the Training that you end up doing with your clients or at least most of a lot of what you do with your clients Is listening to their problems talking with them being a friend You know, you give some advice but really a lot of it's just listening people like to It feels good to talk to somebody and have them listen to you and that's what happens I mean that psychological piece in regards to fitness is important But there's also just the man. I would get dumped on by clients But you know What's happening with their spouse and their kids and their job and I mean non-fitness related things was like 80 percent of the conversation. Yeah, if not all of the conversation while we're training a good friend You know like honestly like it's so self-righteous I'm gonna title on that, you know, like that's so self-serving They go to the life coach like like how about you just be their friend Like be like keep them accountable and like tell them the real deal. Well, we talked about case. So, you know And look some people get a lot of value out of the well. Yeah, okay. So yeah, complete transparency here, right? I think that um, I don't think we would ever do something exactly like that where we said that we're a life coach um One I don't I don't think we would say guru. Well, we'll be No, well, I don't I don't think there's enough money Money and doing it because I I still have it's just like back going back to personal training I can only help one person at a time and the the the money side of me the financial side says like it's It would be a regression. It wouldn't make sense to it wouldn't be an evolution of what we're doing It would be uh regressing. I mean right now. They're for sure Is a way more than a handful of people that we can help through the podcast. So Uh, it would be going backwards now what we have talked about potentially doing is You know doing like this full makeover on a person where They get to come in in in studio and actually get trained by all three of us Not just personal training, but like all aspects Of their life, which is pretty much personal training for us and has has always been but that Full red carpet treatment where they actually come in studio that get trained by us. We address diet We address all the psychological issues. We address all the insecurities We address all these things that they're they're battling and dealing with and we help them through that process Um, I know that we wouldn't call it life coach. I know that we would name it something different and probably more creative Uh, but I don't think that's an evolution like a life coach It's like also a magician Combo, you know, just I don't know just be awesome Just like do tricks I could teach you how to do live. Check this out. Eat this box. It's notice.  That wasn't a magic trick This is what we're gonna do to your income if you followed my advice boom for touch tennis balls We'll call it droop a little give me your money Uh, yeah, I don't I don't know So here's this is you're gonna get it.  I'm not taking anything away from that But something you want to ask yourself is how much of that life coach helping you Was the life coach and how much of that life coach helping you was you making the decision to hire a life coach Yeah, you know I'm saying like and talking your way through all these things Like you're in that space where you're gonna hire someone I do I do think there are a lot of people that can greatly benefit from this and I think A lot of these are the same people Who don't have a a relationship or whether it be a friendship or a partner or a mentorship Yeah, that they can that they can get this from which I that's totally understandable Like I I definitely went through a period of my life where I think I most certainly could have used a life coach type of person because at that time I felt I had evolved beyond a lot of my peers I didn't have a close friend of mine who I felt like when it came to advice on things I really was uncertain about did I have a friend that I trusted to give me good information or give Good advice. No, I didn't think I had that really and I didn't have a great mentor So there was a little period of time there where I felt like and I wasn't in a relationship with someone like Katrina that I could bounce things off of and help gather my thoughts If you don't have someone like that, I think those people make a huge difference for those people I mean that's it to me. I mean it's The ability part of what we talk about our growth personally in the last couple of years because of the show Is because we have three other men in this room that we respect Their level of intelligence Self-awareness emotional intelligence to be able to give advice back to us And so sure we scoff at life coach because we don't see It necessary for our lives because we have we have each other and in addition to that We probably each have other friends or mentors or relationships That we have currently where we can reach out and get get that now if you're somebody Who doesn't have that which is I think a lot more people than we think That that type of person can be so I just looked up the qualifications to be a life coach Obviously, it's not a regulated industry. So anybody could say they're life coach But there's actual certification courses. It's like training. It's no different than personal training that they become a life coach And you take their course and then you're a certified life coach So, I mean, look if it brings you value That's awesome. Um, I I've always thought it was interesting. The name was interesting You know what I mean? Because like life is everything where do you go with that? So like I'm an everything coach. I mean, it's a lot of but you know, I'm sure I'm pissing people off now Not I mean, look, I mean if it brings you value business Ecology then go for it. Yeah, if it brings you value go for it I personally don't think I could ever call myself a life coach Yeah, well, I think what what feels like you guys have all the creation of mind pump Have you ever thought of being a life coach to help others to see? To me that would be a regression to what we're bill.  That's just the natural progression I I foresee us going back and building out even more Uh than what we already have so if you if you don't know this or those that are listening You know, we created not that long ago a 30 days of free coaching On our website. So you go to our website you drop your email in the mind pump media dot com And you can sign up for 30 days of free coaching and we've organized that Through all the topics that we kind of address both physical and psychological with clients And I think I could see us going back and bolstering that with even more Stuff dealing with your your everyday life health and fitness and goals outside of just fitness And making it even more thorough and in depth with maybe resources even outside of our own like information that we've provided on this show And and bolstering that more. So I definitely think that you know, but I mean shit that to me that's so much We can help thousands of people Versus me scheduling time for our blocks to sit down and listen to somebody tell me about how bad their life is And me help them connect the dots on how it's not and that's it's your outlook The irony of this all is the is that some of the like top executives of the world have life coaches Yeah, well, let's talk about why that is and I'll tell you right now. I can I can nail that right away That's they don't have anybody checking them. Well, and a lot of those and we can you can attest to this Think of all the the brilliant minds that we've met over the last couple years Most of these super high level executives and brilliant minds are very socially awkward And don't have a lot of friends and a lot of relationships echo chamber exactly So they're all the people that they're talking to are people that are listening to them seeking advice from them And no one is really checking them and they don't have and that's that's it's very common Especially at that level. So it makes a lot of sense.   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What's that old joke like what's the one headline you never seen a newspaper psychic wins lottery psychic? um Do If you ask me if I believe in psychics, you know stardom has predicted everything exactly I'll have to say I'll have for me personally have to say no Do I know people who've had some crazy experiences with psychics?    So I have a I have a theory on this and um, have you guys ever had an experience? I've had lots of people Exactly what you said set lots and lots in fact Katrina's family. We were literally just this weekend Her niece went to a medium and had her share all this stuff with her and she was blown away by How on point everything she was I talked to somebody maybe six months before that sharing a very similar story so it's I've been around it a lot and My theory on it is this I don't Necessarily believe in psychics what I do believe Is I believe the mind is way more powerful than we think it is And we're still learning about how powerful it is and it's amazing when you put Thoughts into your head Whatever they may be good bad or indifferent How much more control you have of your life and your life's outcome than you think you do And I think that uh to me Psychics prove more of that than they really Then they really prove that there's this this clairvoyance proven the art of persuasion, right like they've mastered it right and I and I think that I think there definitely is a much there's a skill that comes in that comes with these with these psychics.  And they really believed it as you were telling it. Well, I'll tell you what here's what's interesting about this Is that a couple things one? Our own government invested quite a bit of money the stargate Was a man who steered goats Which doesn't mean shit to me because our government will invest in any chance of possible Well, especially especially to find the lost art, especially especially during the cold war, right when they were like, let's just let's just Right any any edge any edge, but what's interesting is some of these studies which Uh, you know, you could debate whether the studies were well done or not But some of these studies showed that with like remote viewing for example They had a statistically better Uh odds of getting the right answer than just random and this has been done in a few studies where people will Uh, well, they'll test it and because you think psychic should be very easy to test, right? It should be easy like oh, you think your psychic come in here Improve it and that has yet to happen. It has yet to happen where someone actually Solidly proves that they're a psychic But there is strange phenomena That we observe in science That is kind of weird like They've shown that people can kind of sense when someone's staring at them You guys ever feel like someone's staring at you when you look and they are Some studies show that that might actually be Kind of a real thing Then there's also a blind site, which is kind of interesting which we didn't discover We just discovered not that long ago where People will have a stroke in the visual cortex of the brain So that part of the brain is dead So they're effectively blind fully functioning eyeballs and everything but they don't see anything because their brain doesn't perceive sight Yet when shown pictures of faces There the the the viewer will mimic the face that they're looking at even though they can't see it So they're the scientists call it blind sight like there's some other parts of the brain That are perceiving sight aside from The visual cortex and when they do these tests on these people in an fr mori machine They do in fact see other parts of the brain lighting up Whenever a face is being displayed in front of them. Wow, they're mimicking it with their expression and everything Yeah, and it's it's a hundred percent. It's called blind sight. You can look it up. It's a real thing Um, and of course the scientists, you know, they'll go back and say well, you know a huge part of Our evolution was uh, you know looking at faces facial recognition facial recognition takes up a huge part of the brain So it's really there's a lot of interesting things that we start to Like here's another one. Uh synesthesia You know, this is where and there's real cases of this where people will See sounds or they'll smell sights Um, or you know, um, if you say a number to them, they can they'll get a sensation And it's a real psychological phenomena and sometimes this happens to normal everyday people when they take a psychedelic Like you know people talk about they'll they'll they'll take lsd And then they'll all of a sudden they'll see the music coming out of the speakers and stuff So this is also like when somebody gets an accident And uh, I've heard somebody like like all of a sudden could play like classical music Uh, because it unlocked a certain part of their brain or or somebody will get in an accident And they'll get a brain trauma or something and then all of a sudden become artists Or extremely good at math or they speak with a russian accent or something like they've never This is real this trip. Yeah, it's really weird stuff. So, you know I don't know if I necessarily believe in the the magic of the psychic ability But I do think that there's a way more than we understand And if we look at I mean here here, I'm going to start stretching now. I'm going to go for a real deep stretch here It time as experienced by us is in this linear fashion past present future We experience it like we do on a clock. That's how we perceive time But science tells us that time doesn't really work that way time You know the space time or or are connected together and it kind of It can be moved it could be bended and you know, um, it could be warped You could slow time down. You could speed it up I mean the clocks on the satellites that are orbiting the earth That give us the directions on our gps Have to account for the fact that they're moving at a certain speed And that at a different gravitational pull so their clocks actually time is different to further out in space You get if we took this is an experiment that you that would actually be true If we took a twin of yours and put them on a rocket that Sped off at the speed of light and came back 30 years later You'd be 30 years older your twin would barely have aged at all So all this you know, this points the fact that time isn't what we think it is So perhaps the psychic is perceiving things And what we might think is the future but in reality, they're just perceiving things outside of the perception or realm of time that we think And so maybe that's how you can explain everybody put your joints down You know, so I think this kind of stuff is really cool Uh, I find it that I listen to my my girl's family is uh 100 percent around it in it and And I'm I'm definitely open mind enough of a person to actually sit and listen to it I'm definitely not enough of a person or I'm not enough into it to where I would waste my time Going to try and get a reading like it's because to me like I think nothing is going to dictate the outcome of our lives than ourselves and our choices that we make And um, I would hate for a psychic to tell me something that didn't align with my my personal goals You're never going to be successful at him. I'm sorry imagine Right right like that seriously like that.    I just say like I don't I don't show up to work the next day you guys like where's adam?  There was a there was that one Psychic on TV that would call people out of the audience and be like I see a name It's John JJ whatever and a person like oh god. It's my eyes my dad They get excited and they're like oh i'm honing on this person people want to believe in this kind of shit Like that's like like you're like your horoscope Like it's been proven time and time again that the horoscope predictions are bullshit But people will read their sign and be like make it general generic enough, you know, somebody's well People will be like this is the type of stuff that I feel psychics do a really good job of When I hear the readings of psychics a lot of times it reminds me the readings of horoscopes It's like you give if you give somebody because you rarely and you I at least I've never heard this I have never heard somebody if psychics were that true too, right? You would hear this now. I've heard a ton of readings.   They see all your gray hair. You know stressed out.  You're probably not sleeping that much and you know, how did you know that right?    Yeah, yeah, right? That's all. Yeah, what else?   Well, they already knew this was happening. That's true Yeah, I don't need to say the rest. Yeah, what to do. Yes, just eat. Yes, right email. What am I thinking? Yeah email Brianna You'll be on the show. Yeah, you know exactly what I'm about to guarantee you don't know It's like what you don't you walk into the psychic office and like why are you here? And you're like, I don't know Tell me why am I here? Yeah, just give them nothing. What's your name?  I would be totally open to do that Exactly Doug, what is this airing because I would like to talk about the Yes on Thursday Thursday. Um, it's over. It's over, huh? It's over. It'll be over. I'm gonna cry. Oh, it'll be a few more hours left when this goes. 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This is Stu Miniman at the OpenSDX event on the ground here at the St. Regis Hotel in San Francisco. Bonus coverage after a big week at VMworld 2014. Joining me for this segment is Chris Orlando, the CMO of Scale Matrix. Thanks so much for joining us. Scale Matrix probably new to many of our audience. Can you tell us a little bit about your company and you're one of the founders of the company? Absolutely. So we are a cloud managed infrastructure service provider. We're a little unique because we develop our own variable density, high efficiency data centers from which we launch all of our services. We're really happy about the disruptive thing that we're doing in the data center space. I think it's a perfect topic to bring to light here at this type of show. Okay, you can drill into us a little bit. Who are your partnerships? Where's your niche in the market? Of course, hosting, manage hosting, how that fits with the cloud. Big topic at conversation. Yeah, so we fit in really well here in this particular market. We're a VMwear partner for a very long time. It's a very stable platform that changed the industry years ago. Nixenta is a very big partner of ours today. They are too very disruptive in the space. We see ourselves in that same channel disrupting the data center, being more efficient, driving more density, bringing all those things together to drive down costs and bring more value for customers in the managed space. Alright, Chris, so we've got about 200 CIOs and C-level guests here. They're all sorting out what the hybrid cloud means for them. Of course, some applications are really going to stay in their environment. SAS is taking over pieces of the market, Amazon and other forces. So, you know, what message do you want to give to the CIOs at this event and watching this segment? So, to the CIOs, I'd say, hey, we sit across from you every day at our table. What we're learning is that hybrid is the answer in today's market. You need to draw a line of delineation between what is core to your business and what is chore that you can offload to service providers and partners. That line of delineation is going to make or break your strategy. And if you find great partners that can help drive a lot of value in those chore economics, I think you'll do really well. Alright, Chris, great advice, I think. Absolutely. Justifying the portfolio, understanding what truly is intellectual property and valuable for your company versus what you really can kind of push off to somebody else. And it is going to be a hybrid model, as we understand. A hybrid model all the way. Alright, thanks so much for joining us. Look forward to following more on your company in the future. We'll be back with lots more coverage. Thanks for watching. Bye.


A few weeks ago I took a look at Pilotwings 64, and while the game itself hasn't aged particularly well, the genre it represents has, and I don't mean flight sims, I mean games where the direct objective in the game isn't necessarily the point of playing it. In my opinion, a game like Pilotwings 64 is best experienced today by just flying around, enjoying the music, and just relaxing. In fact, chill laid-back playthroughs like that are more in demand than ever today, but games with this kind of intent go back much further than you'd think. Ihatovo Monogatari, or the stories of Ihatovo, is a super Famicom game that falls into that category, and that makes it unlike any other in the 16-bit library. There's no combat, there's no stats, there's not even really any enemies, the game doesn't even tell you who your character is or what you're doing or what you're even supposed to do. So what the heck is this game? Well, you started up and you're met with this weird passage from something called Springtime in the Carnage, and yes I should mention that I'm playing this with the English patch created a couple years ago by DDS translation Tom and FlashPV. You then get a scene of a train set to some oddly calm music, until you end up at the train station for a town called Ihatovo. Your character thinks it sounds like something out of a fairy tale, so what the hey, let's spend the day wandering around town. You find out pretty quickly that this place is pretty weird, you've got cats running a shop, someone called the Queen of Ants is hoarding whiskey, what? Everyone does seem really nice though, and eventually you'll stumble into a place that houses a certain club led by a fellow named Kenji Miyazawa. Apparently this dude is a poet, and he exists in real life and he's rather famous, and everyone in town seems to love his work, but sadly seven of his poetry journals have gone missing. So the point of this game is to track down these seven journals, and as such the game is divided up into seven chapters, with a little bit extra at the end that I don't want to spoil. You find these journals by walking around and talking to people and collecting items. For example, the first chapter directs you to head to Shellfire Forest on the east side of town. Here you've got bears wandering around grumbling to themselves, and rabbits congregating before you find a lily of the valley, you grab it, and huh, what's this cave doing here? There's a vase on the table, let's put the flower in there and see if anything happens. And sure enough, Professor Ursis Speilius is conjured out of thin air to talk to you. Sadly they don't know where any of the journals are, but they say some of the animals might know. Well gee, thanks a lot, how am I supposed to glean any information from a cranky bear and some weird rabbits? The Professor says they can teach you, but only if you go back in town and bring them a gift. That's really the gist of the game right there, lots of exploring, talking, collecting items, and trial and error. Obviously this game isn't meant to be much of a challenge, I mean jeez, if you want that go play Super Goals and Ghosts or something. Instead, Ihatovo Monogatari is meant to be something entirely different in the gaming landscape. On the surface it kinda sorta looks and feels like an adventure style RPG, but like I said, there's no combat here whatsoever, it's all storytelling. I mean, there's not even a way to get a game over here, or if there is, I haven't found it yet. And the way the story is told here is really well done, the game allows you to control the pace, and ensure you could just do the bare minimum just to get by, but the intent is to take your time and enjoy this peaceful world of strangeness, mystery, and subtly surreal stuff. Each chapter in the game tells its own story, and gleams you some insight into the author, and sure enough, each of these stories is based on Miyazawa's works. With a game like this, you're gonna need some help from the window dressing, so to speak, to help add to the overall experience, and I'm not exaggerating when I say this game has some of the best music I've heard in a 16-bit game. It's brilliant, and it fits the story and art style perfectly, and some of the melodies here are sure to get stuck in your head here and there. I'll stop here because I don't want to spoil too much. All I'll say is that if you like what you see, and you're intrigued by this game's premise, then you won't be disappointed. It's a fascinating game that plays a lot more like a visual novel than anything else, but all the ingredients of a traditional adventure game are here, like collecting items to unlock new areas to further the story. I will say, despite appearances, this game is very linear, but that's not a bad thing, mostly because this game is so well structured, to the point that it does a fantastic job giving the illusion of freedom. In other words, as you're playing, it doesn't feel linear, if that makes sense. And besides, the story here is truly interesting. It's what kept me playing, and this is something you can finish in just a few hours. There's all sorts of surprises here too, like the movie theater in town that's always closed. Huh, wonder what's up with that. Or the fact that you teach a class at one point. Of course, it helps that the pixel art here, and especially the music, does so much to carry the story and help you relax as you explore this oddly intriguing world. And hey, if this isn't your bag, I totally get it. Games like this aren't going to be for everyone, but otherwise, I highly recommend trying this one out any way you can. Alright, I want to thank you for watching, and I hope you have a great rest of your day.


Čakaj, srednji sofokliz, ministra, srednji sofokliz. As you have already heard from Sofokliz on 14. November, the commission proposed the water blueprint, the new strategy for the protection of Europe's water resources. This delivers one of the priorities highlighted in the roadmap to a more resource efficient Europe. Our proposals are the fruit of a real collective effort of consultation, of preparation that has involved member states, the water service sector, water using industries, the scientific community, NGOs, the European Parliament. Everybody actually has contributed to produce new ideas for helping EU water policy to deliver the maximum benefit for people, public authorities and businesses throughout Europe. The commission took the responsibility for putting the ideas on the table, but I think that your involvement makes you feel that this is not just the European Union blueprint, but your blueprint as well. The package we have put forward with the blueprint, including how the river basin management plans are doing and how we are managing to address water scarcity and droughts, shows the extent of the challenge. On present, trans, it is fairly clear that 47% of the EU water will fail to achieve good status by 2015. As pointed out in the report from the European Environment Agency, this is obviously not good enough to achieve the water framework directive goal of good water status everywhere. The message of the blueprint is this. We need to really step up our action a lot in order to get close to this goal. We may be some way away from achieving it, but it can be done by working together at all levels. The purpose of the blueprint is to help you to direct your efforts where they are needed so that there will be a real impact right across the whole Europe. Your input to the consultation have helped identify areas on which we think EU action would be most helpful. To sum up our ideas in one sentence, I could say that we need something better, something more, and something new. I mean that we need to improve policy implementation, something better, increase policy integration, something more, and fill in few policy gaps, something new. Let me address these three aspects. On implementation, on something better of the blueprint. We already have the key legislation in place. On nitrates, wastewater treatment, industrial emissions, priority substances and protection products. But we are not achieving our goals or there are steps we can take to deliver improvements that people and business expect. There are shortcomings in water management in many parts of Europe. How to get this better? Good water management is somehow similar to managing a budget, even if this should not be mentioned too many times those days in Europe.  Similarly, you need to know how much water it's available before you can allocate it. And when doing this, you must take into account what nature needs to deliver its benefits. The problem is that in many parts of Europe we don't really know the full picture. So we have started by trying to address a missing link, water accounts. The work we have done with the European Environment Agency, it's a good basis for addressing the real issue. How can we make sure that the water balances in each river basin are within sustainable limits? In other words, that we have a proper ecological flow of water that maintains the services provided by our water ecosystems. In the blueprint we have tried to bring together the concept of water balances and ecological flows. But we need to improve the data and produce common understanding of ecological flow. After that we can develop a sound methodology to implement water efficiency targets in the river basins in which they are useful. Another aspect tackled by the blueprint is the issue of water pricing and cost recovery including environmental costs. At the moment this policy isn't working. We have methodological hurdles which have prevented improvements in water efficiency. We want to develop with you a common methodology for cost recovery calculation which allows for comparable results throughout the union and really takes into account ecosystem services. We also think that water metering should be generalized. We hope that strides can be made in this respect under the provisions on irrigation efficiency in the reforms we have proposed for future rural development. Four additional implementation tools are proposed in the blueprint. First, the establishment of a peer review process to allow river basin authorities to evaluate the management plans developed by other with a view of learning from each other and spreading good practices. We think that this will help us bring a common implementation strategy more of the colleagues involved in the day-to-day water management at river basin level. Second, we should rely more on satellite technology to fight against illegal abstraction in the member states where this is... This can be done through the GMES system. Satellite mapping of river basins will allow a comparison between visibly irrigated areas and water abstraction permits. On this basis, inspections could be targeted to areas where problems have been identified. Third, we could develop guidance on water trading in order to facilitate the take-up of this tool at river basin level when this would prove cost effective. Fourth, we should spread best practices to establish sustainable leakage levels for water infrastructure. We have a situation now where in some parts of Europe leakages in municipal water infrastructures have been cut to 7%, while in others they are still close to 50%. The water industry has a key role to play in this, and we look forward, as we will be cooperating with it. All of these areas are particularly promising for innovation. Innovation to get public policies, but also to encourage the private sector to take ideas to market. The European water industry has a good competitive position at the moment, with about one third of the entire world market in water services. But this is not guaranteed to last. We need to make sure that we remain competitive in the market, which is in track to double in size by 2030. This is one of the reasons why the Commission has just launched an innovation partnership in water. Stimulating private investment in improving water services is increasingly needed. The implementation instruments I have outlined will not fully deliver if we do not do also in the beginning something more. We must act to include water policy objectives much more into other policies. So integration, something more, the second part of the blueprint. In this respect, agriculture is of course essential. The blueprint identifies natural green infrastructures, such as flood plains, wetlands, or buffer strips along river banks, as well as farmers complying with water policy as key measures to be supported by the agricultural policy. The Commission proposal on the reform of the cap offer good opportunities for this and we need strong support also from the council and parliament to make them a success. The blueprint also highlights the need for water management priorities to be included more strongly in the cohesion and structural funds and loans of the European Investment Bank. Member states who want to finance projects in the water sector from cohesion funds should have a river basin management plan as well as a proper pricing policy. Compliance with EU legislation is an essential part of delivering better water status and will play certainly its full role in that. In the blueprint preparatory process we also look to see if something new is needed in the water policy. So something more the third part of the blueprint. We agree with the vast majority of stakeholders that our legislation is well developed and also extensive. But there are two main areas where progress is needed. Water efficiency in buildings and water reuse. We are of course conscious that where should not be that there should not be one size fits all approach. There are very different situations in the member states and we clearly acknowledge that. Therefore we propose to focus on adding value at EU level. First in eco design directive we will look into options to make products more water and energy efficient. This will not only achieve considerable water resource savings but also create opportunities for economic growth and new jobs. And second we will work on setting European Union quality standards for water use. A set of quality standards could address public fears about food grown with reused water. This would help alleviate pressure in water stressed areas. Finally there are additional horizontal measures which underpin and reinforce the blueprint. I already highlighted the water innovation partnership. We will be working with stakeholders to agree a strategic implementation plan by the end of the year. I would also like to make sure that we identify a few quick wins for innovation which would be ready within a year or so. We are also working to strengthen resource efficiency and economic efficiency under the European semester. Given the importance of the water sector for growth and jobs we can identify some measures on water efficiency which can help avoid unnecessary unnecessary public subsidies as well as promoting opportunities for innovation in the sector. Third, given the problem of illegal abstraction of water we will look into options to reinforce inspections for instance in relation to water abstraction permits. Fourth, the blueprint also puts considerable emphasis on the knowledge base for water policy. We propose to continue developing the water information system for Europe to link it better with national databases and facilitate decision-making access to essential information. And the Joint Research Center Hydroeconomic Model can help water managers assess the cost-effectiveness of the measures included in the river basin management plans. We look forward to refining this with you and that it can become a great help for all water managers. When looking at the knowledge base and information handling we also need to work with you to simplify reporting requirements to focus on the key statistics that are useful for water managers. Ladies and gentlemen water is vital us the air we breathe we breath but the Mark de Villiers wrote in his winning book water the trouble with water and there is a trouble with water is that they are not making it anymore. Humans consume water discard it poison it waste it and restlessly change the hydrological cycles indifferent to the consequences. Today with our blueprint we are trying to prove to Mr. de Villiers that he is wrong that EU does care about its water resources and I'm pretty sure that he would appreciate that. This is not just environmental necessity the European Union needs to focus on green growth and become more resource efficient to achieve sustainable recovery in the current economic and environmental crisis while adopting to climate change. As you can see our policy proposals are wide ranging. Now we look forward to working with you to turn them into action as soon as possible to make the water framework directive goal of achieving good water status for all European waters and to reality. I thank you for your attention and I wish you a fruitful continuation of this conference. Thanks a lot.


The horse gram is one among the lentils. It is the most protein-rich lentil found on the planet. It's very high-powered, so that's why race horses are fed with this gram, which is called as horse gram today. In the market, it's unfortunately called horse gram, it's called gullu in Tamil and hurrily in other languages, ullulu in Telugu. So this is a very good thing, it's good to sprout it. If you sprout it, you digest this much more easily. You can keep it in a bowl in your room, get one white cloth, put it in that, soak it in the water for about six to eight hours, then tie it in a cloth and keep it closed. In about three days it will sprout. If it sprouted, you can just eat it raw. If it's come out about half an inch out of the seat, you can eat it raw. It takes a lot of chewing and eating, you chew it and eat it. It's very good. Now, this will increase heat in the body. Today sun is up and suppose today you drink gullu or eat gullu and you feel too much heat, then you must balance it by eating green gram, sprouted green gram will cool the system. Oh, is this all so complicated, can't I just eat my meal? I'm only asking you to just eat it. I'm not asking you to perform any ritual, but right now you are just performing the ritual of eating. You're not eating as a human being should eat. If you just go and watch any of the wild animals, they're just chopping, chomp, chomp, chomp, they're eating, but they're not eating indiscriminately. Just like that. They're rejecting what they don't want, they're eating what they want. Just observe a spotted deer, you can see it, it will be grazing. You just see what it eats, what it does not eat, it just knows. Just like that, by the feel of it, it knows what to eat, what not to eat for today. Tomorrow it may be eating a leaf that it does not eat today, but today it knows what to eat for its body and for the atmosphere around it. So you also need to develop that a little bit because this is the intelligence of the body. So consuming this horse gram will generate heat in the body.  That means there is excess heat. Such a thing happens. You just drink some ash gourd juice or eat some green gram or take some castor oil and apply it on, you know, either inside the navel or the anahata, the vishuddhi, this place and these two spots behind the ears, if you apply instantly, within five minutes the system will cool down, go to the bathroom, everything will happen without effort. So the body has to be managed. Even now self-management is happening but if you consciously manage it, it will function better. It's as simple as that. If you want to use the system at a higher dimension of performance then you have to watch it.  What does it matter? Even if you eat garbage you will live but eating with care and watching what the body needs will enable the body in many ways. A conscious managing, not becoming a health freak, being, you know, stressed about what do I eat, what do I do this, how do I this, no, that itself is damaging. Just being conscious, how much of what, what is body's requirement today, that's what you do.