Frank, thank you so much for joining us on This Is Purdue. We're so happy to have you and feature Purdue Global. Well, Kate, I'm just delighted to be invited. You guys are doing such great work. Glad to be a part of it. Thank you. OK, so growing up, were you always interested in education? Where did this kind of passion come from? You know, I always liked school. And I mean, I was a good student. I loved to read. I loved learning. But I never thought as a kid that I would work at a college. I had no idea that there were jobs at colleges. I mean, I didn't even know if I would go to college. And it just happened.  I had people encourage me to apply to college. And I went and I got in. Scholarships helped. And that set it in motion. And you're not from Indiana, right? No, I grew up in North Dakota just outside of Fargo. And it was a great place to grow up.  And how did you find out about Purdue? What was your initial reaction of Purdue University? Well, I mean, probably like a lot of listeners. My first recollection of Purdue is Bob Greci playing in the Rose Bowl and things like that. So sports, and you heard the Purdue name. And, you know, Fargo's just outside of Minneapolis. So you hear the golfers and stuff like that playing the Boilermakers. Then when I was in grad school, you quickly heard about how great the agricultural economics department at Purdue was. And that's when I really became, oh, this is something. And so you came here as a professor, right? Yes. OK. What was it like moving your family, transitioning, you know, to West Lafayette in that community? That's a really good question. Because I know there's, every year, there's a lot of people who transition into Purdue. My daughters at the time were four and nine. To a certain extent, you're so excited because Purdue has such a great reputation. The people I was going to work with in AggieCon, I mean, that's what drew me here. It's people like names you've probably heard of Jay Ackridge, right? Of course. But Dave Downey, Mike Bulge, and a host of other people, just the opportunity to come that made it really, really exciting. But you're also nervous because you know how high the expectations are here. Oh, absolutely.  Are there any mentors that have really stuck out to you throughout your path and your journey coming up to Purdue, being at Purdue this many years?   And I think as I go through life, different points in time, there's different people who influence you. When I was in high school, my best friend's dad was the head of English in the Fargo Public Schools. His name was Delis Sharrock. And Delis, he treated Mike and I like we're adults. And he said, you guys need to read this book. What do you think of that? He challenged us on the issues of the day. He challenged us to be responsible. But he also gave us an incredible amount of support and freedom. And he probably set the tone for people. And I probably have sought people like that out over the years. And there's almost too many to mention. But I just, Wally Tiner was the first department head when I came here. Wally passed a couple of years ago. But Wally was the best leader I've ever seen. What made him such a good leader? I think Wally was what I'm going to call a Purdue leader. And a Purdue leader in my mind has two characteristics. They tend to be personally humble, but they have an iron will. And Wally always knew the direction that we're trying to go. Wally believed that you build off of strength. And the other thing I loved about Wally as a leader, he always made decisions, very informed. But it didn't take him a long time to make decisions. And it allowed you to move forward. That's awesome. That's great. As I said, you were with Purdue for years as a professor. And then you helped. You were in the provost office. And you helped integrate this Purdue global initiative. What was that like? Take us through that. Yeah, I spent a decade almost in the provost office. Most of my work is with undergrad programs on campus. In 2017, it was in early May, they came to me, President Daniels and a couple others. And they had already announced that they have bought Kaplan University and were going to pull it in to Purdue. And they needed me in the first year to really focus on one thing.  Department of Education, the Higher Learning Commission, who was our creditor, and then the Indiana Commission for Higher Education. That was part of my job. The second part of my job was to socialize what this meant for Purdue, West Lafayette. And those are the two things that I started with in that year. And it was a crazy year. But we got it all done. Why do you think President Daniels came to you and asked you to do it? Well, there's a couple reasons. The provost at the time was Debba Dutta. And he left on June 1 to go become the chancellor at Rutgers. So it might have been his job had he stayed. But the other thing is I think there was a recognition that I got things done. And I think that this was a very, very big initiative. And they were looking for somebody who had a track record of being able to pull stuff through. And when you look back at that time, what, you know, why was this pursuit so important to you? And what did it mean to you that President Daniels came to and task you with this huge initiative? That's a really good question. And I mean, I think about that a lot. I think part of it, it's personal in a way. So I'm a first gen student. And you go back and you're asking about my first impressions of college. You know, my first impressions of college, I didn't know much about college. And there were, I go back to Dela Sharok. He talked to me probably when I was 15 and 16, it's not, are you going to go to college?  And one of the things, so I studied an awful lot about Purdue Global as we help make the case to the Indiana Commission Friar Ed, et cetera. And when you study it and then you start to get to know the people, you go, oh my goodness, this is really important work that you're doing. And I think that's what made it relevant to me. And then the ability to explain it to others. And if they pick up on my enthusiasm for it, then it says, okay, they get it too? All right, so maybe I'm on to something here. Sure, and explain to our listeners who might not be as familiar with Purdue Global, where does this Purdue-ness come into play with Purdue Global? Well, I don't know that the Purdue-ness came on day one. Sure. I think Purdue-ness is probably something that we're really developing now. Day one, I think the important part, if you went back, President Daniels made a presentation to the Senate like the day after this was announced or a couple days after, and basically said three things. Why did we do it? And that was a quick, why are you doing this? Well, number one, President Daniels says, there are 35 million Americans working adults, some college, no degree, and we feel an obligation that Purdue needs to serve this population of students. That was one. Number two, Purdue had studied, how do we get into online? And there had been a couple commissions or study committees that looked at this, one about 2014 and other, I think 2016. They both came back and made reports to the board. And in both cases, the board says, that's a pretty modest proposal. And if you notice anything about Purdue and what we do right now, we're really doing stuff big at scale, making large impacts. And I think the board says, it's not that what you didn't present isn't important, but we don't think it's of a scale that is what we want to accomplish. And then the third real reason that they acquired Kaplan University instead of building it, it allowed us to get to a large scale size overnight. You were named Chancellor in May, 2020. Yes. What was that like? You know, I'm sure you were honored. Were you a little nervous to take over that role? Well, if you weren't nervous, you shouldn't be in the job, right? Right.  And moreover, in the provost office, the night before those 60, 70 days, we had been working probably from about 6 a.m. to about 11 every day, just trying to help the campus. What can we do? How can we do this? How are we gonna do finals? Went from that, and May won. Oh, I have a new job. And normally, I think when you have a new job, you have some time to transition. And I just kind of literally went from one to another. I, just like Hmong is going to do, incoming as our president, I took the first few months to listen. I listened to an awful lot. I listened to people from Purdue, people who knew what global was, what it meant. I listened to people who worked at Purdue Global, my new team, my new faculty, people I didn't know. I listened to other people in higher education just to try to find out, so what does this mean to ACE?  And then I started to formulate, where do we wanna go? What do we wanna be? How do we wanna do it? And what were your initial goals coming in? You took those first couple months to kind of settle in, listen. Well, I can come back to your Purdueness. Okay. Okay. I think out of the gate, the way this had been set up is Purdue Global had been set up as a separate entity owned and controlled by Purdue Westloff yet. Okay. And we have others. I mean, athletics technically is a separate entity. PRF, I mean, it goes on and on. And so that's not unusual on campus. But to a certain extent, when we started, we said, well, Purdue Global has their own accreditation, their own degrees, their own faculty. They're over here, Westloff yet's over here. As I started to look at it and started to understand it, one of the things in the first few months that I looked at the separation and it didn't make much sense to me. Sure. And I working with President Daniels and the board, I says, I really think that if the name Purdue is on this, we need to infuse Purdue Global with more of what it means to be Purdue. Yeah, I love that. And so what were some of those things? Well, I think by far what we've done, and President Daniels has mentioned this in several of the recent board members, the reason we're here is to serve students. The reason we're here is to help these individuals that much of higher ed is overlooking, help them get meaningful degrees that are gonna help them in their degree. By far, that is our driving mission. So students access and do a better job with that. And that was a lot what I did in the Provost Office when I was there. So that in ways just easily transferred over. And it goes on and on and on. I mean, Purdue, as you know, is just this, it's sometimes really hard to put it into words. But when you use the word, it means something to you if you understand it. Absolutely. And some of these students are, well, a lot of the students are a bit more non-traditional. Well, virtually all of the students are, you know, and let's just say traditional means you're typically starting at age 18 and gonna go through and just like you did and my daughters did, right? And that's great. And West Lafayette is a magnificent place for students like that. My students are just the opposite. Most of them started but didn't finish. For one reason or another, you know, you probably had friends who started and didn't finish and sometimes it was they didn't see irrelevance. They didn't know what they wanted to study. Sometimes it might have been financial. Sometimes it might be life got in the way is the way that people talk about it. I have about 30% of my students are military, 5,000 active duty. Wow. The 18 year olds went into the Army. And guess what? They're in the Army and they're also taking courses with me because the Army's saying we need smart soldiers. So they're getting a degree while they're going through their progression of specializations within the Army. But the students to me, you use the word traditional and that's really an important word because higher education in many respects is a very tradition bound institution across society, right? And but yet I think the world has changed. And the world we live in, this thing called the Internet of Things, it means that people are in their 30s and 40s need a level of data literacy and sophistication and working with technology that wasn't there even 10 years ago. Right. Even when I was in school. Exactly. Some of these things. I never learned. I don't know how to do some of these things. So how were you supposed to have a meaningful career if you don't have that opportunity? Right. And let me go back to my students. This is a fairly typical student. About 60% of them are coming from what we call, I call an A to B partnership, academic to business partnership. So they're working somewhere.  You do a great job. But you know what? I can't give you a promotion because you don't have a degree. But I have so much faith in you and I see so much potential in you. I'm willing to pay for you to go back to school. Okay.  Right. And so it means my education is built a little bit different. My education model. And a lot of people are familiar with what it means to come as 18 and go, et cetera. For me, almost all my students are part-time. They're taking one or two. But on the other hand, most of them go year-round. They don't take summer off, they just go, they just go, they just go. Another real difference about, my students get about 50% of their credits because they were in school before. Okay. And that's their life experience. And let me give you an example. We have a bunch of students with us from Walmart who've done Walmart store manager training. And you start looking at the training and guess what, you know, a lot about HR, you know, a lot about giving annually about. And we look at that. We take our faculty, we look at training programs. We say, oh, they did seven hours of this training. Well, that's exactly what we would cover in this particular course. And wherever we can find that you've already learned something. And moreover, if an employer like Walmart says, and we think this training's pretty good, I mean, we give people promotions because of this. We're saying, okay, we're gonna give you credit for it. And that allows people to speed through a little bit. And so when these students are going part-time, how quickly can they finish? Is there a? No, that's, because you're going year-round, most of them get done in two years or a little over two years. Okay, so that's appealing to a lot of people who have a lot going on. Well, they want, and also they want to get on with life. Sure. So they come to us incredibly focused. They talk about, there's two models.  There's other cases that where parents talk about doing homework at the same table with their kids, trying to be this role model for them. Right, that's really special. How does Purdue Global promote Purdue's land-grant mission to extend education to everyone you talked about, President Daniels, presenting in front of the Senate, and we want all of these millions of people to have the same access? Another great question. And actually it doesn't extend it to everyone, all right? So, but it does extend it, okay? And you can think about the land-grant mission in Purdue and places like Ohio State, a lot of Big Ten schools talk about being land-grants. What land-grant means is you're an institution whose mission is to provide opportunity, okay? And you go back to the origins of the Morrill Act, 1862, middle of the Civil War, and here's Congress and President Lincoln said, you know where society is today, we need more people who have been taught in agriculture, military tactics, and the mechanic arts along with the rest of a classical education. Now, why were they doing that in the 1860s? We're at the start of the Industrial Revolution and Mechanization. And people coming from a pure liberal arts program really weren't equipped to fill in society's roles, all right? Now, let's fast forward 150, 160 years. What do we need today in society? And we have that already talked about how do you work today if you're not data literate, technology literate? The world has changed the expectations of opportunity. I say it is an extension. As a land grant, Purdue's responsibility is to provide educational opportunity to those seeking to work, to meet what society needs. And that's what we're doing. That's what we're serving. And so I would say that I don't serve, I have about 34,000 students. There's only about 100 of them who are like 18 or under traditional, okay? Okay. And I can tell your passion about these students. Not at all. No, yeah, yeah. I'm sure everyone can tell. What do you want them to see with you as their chancellor? Like what do you stand for and want your students to know about Purdue Global? How you care for them? How you're passionate about them? Well, you just answered your own question in many ways. I mean, all the things that you said, I think at the core, for people who may start a college at 18, 19, didn't finish, now you're, let's say close to 30, sometimes you think life got by you. And you're looking at what you need to move your life forward. This notion about getting another opportunity is really important, but a lot of them come, especially the first term, incredibly nervous. I don't know if I can, I didn't do it before, can I do it now? So out of the gate, I think the most important thing we can show them is we really care about their success. And how do I care about supporting you with tutoring programs and coaching and things like that to help you move through? I think once they see that and once they experience it, then they start to take it on themselves and pay it forward kind of a mentality. And you've gone over a lot of different things that make Purdue Global unique. Are there any other things you wanna discuss? Like how is it different from these other, we're kind of almost getting blasted with all of these different online accreditations lately, right? Yeah, well, I mean, I think part of that might be because of COVID, right? A lot of schools overnight became online institutions. I think, and some of them are really fine institutions, okay? I think there's one difference that with Purdue Global relative to most of the other, Purdue Global can say it's part of Purdue. And I can give you one good example is we're in conversations right now with a company who is here to hire Purdue engineers, yay, all right? But when we were in the conversation, they talked about some of their other needs and guess what it is? They have a whole bunch of people who support the engineers who also need to have their skill set improved. And when we started talking about some of the programs we had at Purdue Global, they got more excited about that or as excited because they said, we can build teams of both the engineer along with the tech support team that's gonna go with them. And they said, we can't find that anywhere else. I think that's what's gonna set Purdue apart from everybody else in the space at this time. Absolutely, that Purdue brand. Yes. So have you been at Purdue 20-ish? Came in 98, so this is like my 25th year this month. Okay, so 25 years. What does this Purdue community mean to you? Your daughters went to Purdue, you've been ingrained in this West Lafayette community. There's a spirit at Purdue of number one, you know, just like I said, one of the things that President Daniels had with Purdue Global, it's like go big or go home, all right? But that's true as you go across campus on the work that faculty do and their research teams and their projects and things like Discovery Park would be a good example. And I worked with some of the most incredible people in the world, so you're with these brilliant people, great grad students, wonderful staff, but you're also working on some of the most meaningful problems of the day. And to me, part of the appeal of Purdue is we've always been here trying to solve the problems facing us. And so there's a relevance, I guess, to me that allows me to get excited, especially when you start to see that you're answering the questions. What about a favorite memory or story throughout your time? It can be before Purdue Global pops up on your radar, it could be during your time as chancellor at Purdue Global. Oh, well, at that Global, I think my favorite stories are probably all around graduation and two reasons. I mean, number one, it's graduation's always a time to celebrate and it's easy to have great memories about celebrations, right? But number two, that's one of the few times we actually convene and have people together. Most of my time, you know, fully online, most of my time's looking at people in a little box. I had, we did our first live graduation a year ago, August, and two great memories of that one. One is we use students to be the speakers or recent alum, like they might have graduated the term before. They come to us and they can speak to our other student body with an authenticity that no one else could. Right. Christopher Fairbank was the speaker last August and he talked about some of the challenges in his life. He had a lot of challenges in his life, but throughout his whole life, the thing his dad kept saying to Christopher, what are you gonna do about it? I walked away from that and I look at the challenges, our students have challenges and one of the things we're now asking ourselves as a university, what are we gonna do about it? So when you, and guess what? When you challenge people, they respond to it. So that is a fabulous memory of that. And the other one was the emotion of graduation. And I've told this story in a number of settings. Some of you heard it, but there was a woman coming up on the stage and I didn't know if she was going to faint and fall out. She was just trembling.  And because I thought she might pass out or something. She says, very, you know, she was just trembling and the words is I never thought I would graduate from college. And then I said to her, because we're in DC and the auditorium says, so you have anyone here with you?  But you know, so many of my students are parents like 65% have kids and over and over again they tell me it's so important. One of the reasons they're doing it, I wanna be a role model for my children. I wanna set an example. So those stories, they touch ya. They're, oh man. Yeah, you're almost crying like they're, yeah. Oh man, I don't have any kids yet but I can only imagine how that would feel to hear your little girl yelling that. So there's a lot of resiliency with these students, right? I mean, they overcome so much and then you talked about that emotion. That's really special. Yeah, it really is. Is there anything else I missed about kind of the curriculum, the courses that you wanna touch on with Pretty Global? Well, I'll just give you one factoid, right? I mean, it's always nice to have at least one factoid to walk away with. So at West Lafayette, in a typical year, students, the undergrad students take about a million credit hours, all right? And they also get credit for about 150,000 hours of transfer credit, but almost all of that is AP, okay? So, you know, million to 150,000. My students take 1.2 million credit hours, about the same, they get a million hours of transfer credit. And of that, about a fourth of it is for those, you know, the folks at Walmart who did managerial training and things like that and were awarding credit for life experience. So it's a different. My students aren't looking to take free electives. They know what they wanna do. Well, but they're also, they're 30 instead of 18. You know, a big part of being 18 is you have many options and you kinda need to narrow it to pick a major. I bet you had to go through that, right? Sure, discovering what you like. Yeah, discovering. My people have discovered they're very purpose driven. They know I wanna get a degree in nursing and I wanna be able to move into this position in 18 months. So I think it's having that drive really allows them to move forward. I'll just give you a couple other stats. There's a measure of being poor and we don't like to call it that, but that's really what, it's called Pell. And Pell is given to low income people. Purdue and most of the big 10, it's about 17, 18% of the students. I'm 60%, okay? You know, another measure is first generation. Purdue, West Lafayette, it's about 20%. I'm 58%. So a lot of my students come to school, they don't have that guide that mentored. They don't know how to navigate. And that's why it's so important for us to do all these things that we're starting to do to help them understand directionally. You need to do this if you wanna get here. They're certainly smart enough and bright enough to get there. What they really need is a guide to help them understand the path. That makes sense. What are you really excited about in the next year or so? In the next year? Well, the next year. I don't know if you've been following, but the board has done some great things for Purdue Global. Yes. We just talked to Sean Taylor. Oh yeah? Oh, yeah. And I mean, here are some of the things I'm most excited about. The board is really positioning global to be a greater part of Purdue. And I can give you three quick examples. Purdue Online, led by Gary Bertolini, we're working, we meet all the time on things we can do together, all right? The Office of Industry Partnerships is led by a person by the name of Nathan Utz. The Office of OIP is the part of Purdue that makes contracts with different companies and the government. And historically, they've done a lot around research contracts. Well, now, one of the things companies say, what do you guys have educationally online? Nathan is supporting me there. So are those like those Walmart examples that you used? Exactly, yeah, yeah. And then third is there's this office led by a guy by the name of Ethan Braden. I know him. I think I know him. So Ethan, Purdue Marketing, Ethan is my chief marketing officer at this point. And Ethan comes to the room with an energy and an enthusiasm and a belief in Purdue. So when you're at global and my staff and my faculty, my leadership team, all of a sudden we've seen how much Purdue is coming to us and saying, hey, we can help you with this, we can help you with this. It is just opening eyes and we are so excited about that. And then not put on top of that, come January one, we're gonna have a new president. So there's lots coming in the next few months. Lots to be excited about. Absolutely. What role would you say Purdue has played in your life? Well, I've been here 25 years. I think it might go both ways. I think Purdue attracts a certain type of person. And I go back earlier, I talked about the work you got to do with these incredibly smart people. I found with Purdue a place that allowed me to push myself that supported me when I did that, believe it or not, is open to failing at some things, right, but was still supportive. And the other thing is that Purdue, as a faculty member and academic, when you said you were from Purdue, you could always get important doors open to you because we have that much respect around the world. And then finally it just, it never felt like work.  No it is, it was just so much fun to be with the people we were with. That's special. Who do you think of when you think of Purdue? Is there any person that sticks out? Oh, I don't know that there's any one person. I think it's actually people. It's, and I would start with students, the love that students have for this place, you quickly see, I would say it's staff, like the people, their advisors, success coaches, I mean that, and then the faculty. You know, the faculty care deeply about this place as well and can you forget the alum, it just goes on and on. So, but it's not any one person. I think that, if it was only one person, it'd feel a little shallow, wouldn't it? Right.  This place doesn't need to be a secret. This is a place we need to be telling everyone what we're doing. That was the first time I've ever asked that question and I don't think anyone will answer it better than that. Well, I don't know about that. I would hope, but I gave it a shot. How was that? I love it. No, it's a great answer to that community and that spirit that you've talked about. Is there anything else that you wanna tell our listeners? I'm gonna make you tear up again, if I can do that. Usually it's me making other people tear up. Really? Well, I'm really pretty tough to tear up. There was one other person who deserves a lot of credit for Purdue Global and that was Morgan Burke. And so a lot of your listeners are gonna recognize Morgan as the former athletic director. Morgan, what some people don't know, before he came back to be the AD at Purdue, ran HR at Inland Steel for a number of years. When Morgan started at Inland Steel, they had 30-some thousand employees. When he left, they had about 8,000. And what Morgan said, doing HR at Inland at that time basically meant every week you're giving out another 100 pink slips. Morgan worked a lot with me that first year. He wanted this because Morgan said, my job at Inland Steel would have been so much better if I could have gone. He says, Kate, you don't have a job with Inland Steel, but we're gonna pay for your college to go to a place like Purdue Global. Morgan is one of the people who really persuaded me that I should take the chancellor role and do that. And Morgan and I talked every day about what it is, what we should be doing, how do you support people, how you build teams. And he always ended the call. A lot of his phone calls goes to COVID at this time. He'd say, I'm always here for you. And then unfortunately on June 15th of 2020, I'd been here for six weeks. His wife, Kate, calls me. Morgan died this morning. And if there's anything that drives me, is serving his memory as well. And it's people like that who just give their entirety to a cause is why we're gonna be a great success. What do you think he'd say to you today? I'm always here for you. Then you know where he'd end? Boiler up, hammer down. I love it. Yeah. Is there anything else? I think that was wonderful. I don't know how you can do better than boiler up, hammer down, help or do. We gotta end it with that. Well, thank you so much. We had a blast. Awesome.


Hi you guys! So I finally caught up on posting all of my vlogs yesterday, so sorry about the ambush But I just needed to get them all up. So I was all caught up We'll see if I can keep this daily thing going. It's harder than it seems. It really is Anyways, I am On my way to class by way of the thrift store because I had some time to kill and I'm still looking for quilts. Hi Please be my friend Would it be weird if I walked up to them and was like, I'm as wifty too. Let's be friends. Oh Man, I mean I thought I wonder if I put a sticker on my car if they would stop me all of these whole wall of blankets and Towels and Curtains and other bedding not a single quilt Not even like a baby one What a bummer how it's really feeling hopeful to So they had quilted things but not like pieced and You know look at quilt. They just had like it was like printed and then they quilted The print you know what I'm saying? 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I asked if they had security and she said no She asked why and I said I think someone's following me around the store and and She was like which one and I was easily able to point him out because he's still like kind of lurking and she's like okay, so she calls over like a Manager type another woman, but still like a I guess a little bit higher up the chain I don't know if they're at the thrift store how the hierarchy works, but um, she came over She was like what's going on and so I told her she was like, oh, she was like, okay, cool. She was like Not a problem.  I was like, okay, that's cool, but That hasn't happened to me very often But when it does man, it's scary, I don't know what he's up to I don't know like and you know better be safe Than sorry I listened to a lot of datelines. So My mind is always thinking like worst case scenario But you have to have to be paying attention like If I were just like in my own world I might not have even been noticed him following me around or following me to my car or Following me like once I get into my car. Is he gonna follow me home? You know what I mean? Like you just really have to be Very vigilant and then Not let the fear Take over like I was in a public setting. There were lots of people there So when I started filming him, I didn't feel scared at that point. I kind of dug deep to find like some kind of Defiant mood, you know where I was like and yes, I'm filming you. What are you gonna do about it? You know, stop following me kind of thing. That was like the attitude that I had to Take over but it's fine now. I'm all good. He did not Follow me out of the store. I Didn't even see him in the parking lot as I was leaving and the manager now knows that he's like just not buying anything and like Looking around for who knows what? He wasn't with anybody like it was all just so strange But anyways, hopefully that helped me sharing that helped somebody else The next time that they're out and about Okay, I did end up getting a couple of things one like a suede vest Which again, I know sounds weird, but you got to like layer it put it with things I've been wanting like vests to wear with my summery dresses Like my short sleeve dresses because then that makes it appropriate for this 65 degree weather The thing is I found these like kind of cool. I don't know if they're Hello shams. I don't know what they are but they look like they could be a really cool Wrap around skirt. That's where my mind went. We'll see they were $3 for the pair So I felt like that was a low investment Low risk So we'll see how those turn out and then I just went and got a lunch treat You guys if you're sleeping on the Bojangles, they're chicken sandwiches. I don't know what it is Are good a thousand times better than Chick-fil-A. I don't get why Chick-fil-A is so popular I mean, it's good, but it's not like bomb diggity dog Good Okay, it must be Taylor Swift Day because I am walking up to stash for class and Her song Long Live is playing on the radio here like Yay, that makes me so happy Made it back home from class It is Took me that long to read a clock with hands for 15 They normally eat at Five so we have 45 minutes, but they aren't losing Losing their minds a second ago. This kid was like behind me like rubbing her whole self on me. I Thought I could catch it on camera, but it seems like she's gonna be Chill once people are watching But honey's still being kind of crazy like honey's never around


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Hello students, let's work out the following problem. It says find the area of the region bounded by y square is equal to 4x, x is equal to 1, x is equal to 4 and the x-axis is in the first quadrant. So let's now move on to the solution. Now we have to find the area bounded by the parabola y square is equal to 4x line, x is equal to 1, x is equal to 4 and the x-axis So this is the parabola y square is equal to 4x and this is the line x is equal to 1 and this is the line x is equal to 4 and we have to find area bounded by the parabola the line x is equal to 1, x is equal to 4 and the x-axis in the first quadrant. So we need to find area of this region right Now y square is equal to 4x so this implies y is equal to 2 root x Now the required area denoted by a is given by integral 1 to 4 because x is going from 1 to 4 y dx, now y is 2 root x dx, if taken just the positive square root it gives us the area in the first quadrant. Now we'll integrate this now the integral of x to the power 1 by 2 is x to the power 1 by 2 plus 1 that is 3 by 2 upon 3 by 2 where the lower limit of x is 1 and the upper limit is 4 Now this is equal to 4 by 3 Now we'll put x is equal to 4 per first So we have 4 to the power 3 by 2 minus now we'll put x is equal to 1 so we have 4 by 3 into now 2 can be written as 4 can be written as 2 square 1 to the power 3 by 2 is 1 itself this becomes 2 to the power 3 minus 1 4 by 3 into 2 to the power 3 is 8 minus 1 becomes 4 by 3 into 7 so the required area is 7 into 4 by 3 that is 28 by 3 Hence the required area is 28 by 3 square units. It's the version and the session by for now take care have a good day


When I found out there was an Obi-Wan Kenobi teaser trailer today, it was a surprise to be sure. But a welcome one. Let's talk about it. Let's lay this on the table right away. I'm not a Star Wars prequel fan, so you can walk away from this video if you want. If you have no interest in my opinion, I'm also not very happy with the sequels. Really just kind of like the original trilogy and Rogue One, then Mandalorian, that's about it. So I'm like 50-50 on this whole concept. That said, I think even people that despise the Star Wars prequel movies, I don't despise them, I tolerate them. I think every single one of them would agree that Ewan McGregor and the music was top notch. It carried those films. And whoever cut this trailer together clearly knows that. As we have dual of the fates in this thing, and man, that gave me chills upon hearing it, that John Williams score is amongst my favorite in the Star Wars universe. Positive's out of the way. Who's ready to get back on Tatooine again? I feel like we've just been there 45 times! First 30 seconds is a tiny recap about how they lost everything. The Jedi were complete failures and they've gone into hiding. We then see Ewan McGregor, Obi-Wan spying on a young Luke, as he's pretending to be in a pod racer or a T-16 or whatever. I don't know what he's doing. He's having a ball. Part of me kind of hoped this Obi-Wan Kenobi show would just be the worst, most boring thing ever, where he's just on Tatooine the entire time, getting to know the neighbors, the sand riders, cleaning out his hut, sweeping, doing his dish every day.  Thankfully, that's not what we have here. Once that Lucasfilms logo fires up, the dual of fates kicks in and we're off to the races. We have some really cool looking stuff going on. And I'm sure people that are familiar with the TV series, the Clone Wars, or any of the other Star Wars lore from the prequel franchise will probably be able to point things out and say, oh, that vehicle, that's from episode 16, where Anakin Skywalker loses his hand and is left nut in a battle with Grievous or whatever. I don't know.  I only know the movies. It appears upon first glance that the Sith, or whoever is in charge over there, is going after the Jedi. They're trying to hunt down the remaining ones that got away. And maybe they know about Luke and Little Princess Leia and they're going after them as well. I'm excited. Honestly, I'm actually looking forward to this. It might make me appreciate the prequels a tiny bit more. So maybe I'll look back on them a little bit more fondly after this is done. I know people that watch the animated shows. That's kind of where they're at. We have a couple different flavors of bounty hunters being shown here. Some albino-looking bald dude who's spinning the lightsaber around really fast. We have a female huntress rocking a red lightsaber. I don't know if she's a Sith, but I do know this. She's a strong female lead! And for Disney, it's about time. They love their strong female leads. Hopefully this one's a little less Captain Phasma and a little bit more Princess Leia when it comes to the writing department. I'd like her to have a little bit of depth. A little character development. We then have a smattering of different action moments and it ends with a subtle... That's right! It's Darth Vader, baby! Does that mean Anakin's back? Is he going to see Hayden Christensen again in this thing? I sure hope not. Actually, I don't care. Hayden Christensen is fine. He's a good actor. He was just given some pretty rough material to work with. I do have a few questions. I mean, how does this work? At the end of the prequel trilogy, he's in full Vader. You know, he's doing the... No!  So what do we got left here for Hayden Christensen to do? Are we going to get flashbacks? Possibility? It's a possibility. I'd be for it. I think that'd be cool. Honestly, one of my favorite parts of this is the end Disney logo where the swoosh plus symbol is done with the lightsaber motion. I don't know why. I thought that was great. That's just good branding. Before that, the trailer ends with our hero shot of Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ewan McGregor. I'm looking forward to this. I'm looking forward to see some lightsabers again. So this trailer, having Kenobi in it, having Duel of the Fates, was enough to win me over a non-Star Wars prequel fan. Alright, let me know your thoughts in the comments below. Are you excited for this? Are you hesitant? Because of some of the bad choices Disney's been making with Star Wars? Like, virtually everything? Even the Mandalorian, they managed to screw up by hijacking the Book of Boba Fett and ramming him into that show. Thereby ruining the Book of Boba Fett storyline and hurting the Mandalorian going into Season 3. But, you know, there's still hope, like the trailer says. There's hope. Anyway, let me know in the comments what you're thinking here. Like the video if you had a good time. Subscribe if you haven't. I post tons of movie and TV show related content each and every week. I'd love to have you. Take care.  Hey, thanks for sticking around. I'm also on Patreon at patreon.com slash adam does movies or you can become a member right here on YouTube via the join button. There's extra perks, exclusive videos, badges, things of that nature. If you're into gaming, I'm also on Twitch at twitch.tv slash Adam Olinger. You can see me playing games. All these links are in the link tree in the description below. So essentially you have the high ground in this situation. It's up to you to decide what to do with that.


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st. Existing forestry commission IT is in fact no longer fit for purpose. It needs upgrading anyway. If we weren't here, and this may not come as a huge surprise to members of this committee, I also know share my interest in matters IT. The IT system is no longer fit for purpose. It needs upgrading because of the age of the infrastructure and the lack of investment in recent years. The forestry commission is already taking action to ensure business continuity and protection against system failure and moving connectivity from forestry commission network to the Scottish wide area network SWAN. The GB layer of the forestry commission that is provided central services such as IT is in the process of being dismantled as a part of the internal FC chain. I guess what I am saying is that even if it weren't, if the building exists, there would need to be considerable spend on IT anyway. How much additional spend is necessary would be a legitimate question and we are happy to provide further information as we go forward. As far as the branding issues go, there will be some costs. Let me be absolutely clear. I wish that those costs would be minimised and kept to a minimum. I think that that is a sensible, commonsensical approach, and I have asked that approach to be taken. I think that that is clearly understood and a view that is widely shared by everybody involved in this. I am able to say that those costs will not impact on the delivery of other programmes. Funding is coming mainly from reserves that Forest Enterprise Scotland is able, because of its prudent management, to maintain as a result of having public co-operation status for accounting purposes. The range of the costs that you will note from the financial memorandum are quite wide and, therefore, there is further work to be done. Those are indicative figures and they are not hard estimates. Mr Mason will know that, as an accountant, there is a difference. I just wanted to reassure members that this is something that I am taking a personal close interest in as officials are well aware and will continue to do so to ensure that the costs are minimised. We will be retaining the green for the staff at whom I think we would want to have that livery and badge approach maintained. I think that when SPT stopped having the trains painted in their own colours, it was agreed that rather than just repainting all the trains immediately, it would only be when they were due for repainting that the new livery would be brought in. I wonder whether that would be a model, like with vehicles, that you could not have to repaint all the vehicles, but when they are replaced, they would come out in the new colours. Is the approach in principle—Simon, do you want to add to that? It is exactly the approach that we might look to take, particularly if the direction of travel is to evolve the brand rather than a completely dramatic change. Just to advise the committee, because the national forest estate is in many places over Scotland that we have around 7,000 items that carry the forest commission name and brand, and vehicles are one of them, anyone who has visited one of the forests for recreation purposes will see various signs. That is why, potentially, the scale of the activity is very great, but I think that there are good opportunities to take an approach that uses the normal replacement cycles for various items. We also need to be mindful of the need in future to maintain clarity to stakeholders and visitors and ensure that there is no question that visitors do not feel welcome and able to engage with us as an organisation about their visit. I think that we are pressed for time, but my final point would be that witnesses have raised the concern that there might be less information in the budget concerning forestry because of the reorganisation. Maybe we can get that in writing if there is not an immediate answer, that there would not be any less information available for the committee or for the public through this change of process. I can give that assurance. The bill has no impact on funding for forestry in Scotland. Funding will continue to be provided via the Scottish budget and approved and scrutinised by the Scottish Parliament and the committee. If I have learnt anything, that will mean that more information will be provided, not less. Thank you very much. Cabinet Secretary and your colleagues, that concludes our questioning on this, our final evidence session on the forestry bill. There are some issues that have been brought up that are quite interesting and would help us to determine how we deal with the report and also post the report when the bill comes forward to the committee. As soon as we get those, it would be very much appreciated. I would like to thank you all for the evidence that you gave me this morning. I briefly suspend the meeting for five minutes to allow witnesses to change, so I suspend the meeting for five minutes. We are now going to move on to agenda item four on the agenda, which is review of legislation governing small holdings in Scotland. Part 11 of the Land Reform Act 2016 required the Scottish Government to review the legislation governing small land holdings and to lay a report of that review before the Scottish Parliament. The report was published in March. Cabinet Secretary has remained here and is joined by Jane Willoughby, the team leader for the agricultural holdings and Claudia Duff, the policy manager for small holdings at the Scottish Government. Cabinet Secretary, would you like to say something at the outset before we go on to questions? Thank you, convener. The statutory small holdings of which there are around 74 remaining in Scotland and located out with the crofting counties are tenanted holdings regulated by the small land holdings acts 1886 to 1931. They are a part of Scotland's agricultural heritage and form part of the fabric of land tenure in Scotland. The Land Reform Scotland Act 2016 required us to conduct a review of the legislation governing small land holdings and this was laid before Parliament on 30 March this year and a number of policy recommendations were made and this is what we are here to discuss today.  A total of 22 responses, including five from landlords, were received and those responses were from 23 per cent of all small land holders. Officials followed up the written consultation with phone calls to small land holders and landlords. The written consultation was also supported by a number of well-attended government-led workshops and meetings with landlords. Officials also attended industry events. The legal review has focused on the issues highlighted via the consultation, such as the accessibility of the legislation and how it has impacted the understanding of rights for small land holders and landlords, how key security of tenure is to all small land holders and the issues concerning accessing funding and banking. The emerging issue is centred around the clarity of legislation, a possible right to buy and having a single representative body. I am sure that you will all have read the recommendations and that we can go on to have a good discussion on them. Small farms can, convener, provide an important part of access into agriculture for new entrants and are essential for the sustainability of the industry and for those farming part-time or on a smaller scale. However, statutory small land holdings are in a unique position. The review is therefore the first step towards understanding how they contribute to land tenure to the tenancy sector and to our vibrant rural economy. I welcome committee members' feedback during this session. Of course, myself and my officials will consider that as the policy work develops. Thank you, cabinet secretary. The first question is from John Mason. Thanks, convener. I suppose that as a city person, as an outsider, I can maybe just be a little bit of a devil's advocate, but if there used to be 50,000 small land holdings and there is now 74, can we really say that they are still part of the fabric of Scottish land or are they something that is dying out or are they something that we could try and expand on? To the 74, they are pretty important. Each individual is important, I think that it is obvious to say, and I am sure that Mr Mason agrees with that proposition. However, he makes a fair point that the number of small land holders has, I gather, reduced substantially over the years and kind of withered on the vine perhaps. One reason for that may have been that there hasn't really been much a chance, much opportunity to have this discussion, to have this debate, to consider the issues that are of interest of concern to the small land holders. If you like, there is a question mark because of the relatively small number of people who still possess this unique form of land holding, and I think that this Parliament's effort to understand the issues involved and the time that we are taking today at your member's instigation, convener, is a worthwhile starting point to seeing whether we can answer Mr Mason's question positively. You feel that there is at least a possibility that the sector could expand in the future? Of course there is, yes. The next question is from John Finnie. My colleague Alison Johnson had a keen interest in this in the previous session, and one of the challenges has been about understanding the legislation. With regard to the report, the Scottish Government undertook to do a couple of things, and I would just like to ask very specific questions on that. One of them was to commission an independent legal expert to write a guide to the legislation. I wonder, are you able to give an outline of the timetable for commissioning and publishing that guide? Yes, the provision of a guide to the current small land holding legislation could help small land owners to gain a better understanding of the legal framework. There isn't a guide at the moment, so there isn't a text book. That's very unusual, because in every area of law there are recognised legal texts that some of which have gained authoritative status and are unaid to understanding legal rights and responsibilities in all areas of Scotland's private law. We are working with Sir Crispin Agnew, an expert in this field, and we fully expect that the guide will be available by the end of the year. Okay, thank you very much. We'll look forward to that coming out. Another fact that was going to be considered was a webpage for small holders to provide advice and support again. Are you able to see when that will be made public, and what information will be provided on that webpage, please? Okay, could Jen Willoughby answer this, please? We have that webpage available on the Scottish Government website. That's already up and running. That contains a variety of information that we think will be helpful to small land holders around the different issues that they raised during the review. So, there's information on there about how to access different sorts of funding, how to engage with our PID colleagues, various different bits of information that we felt that would be helpful to small land holders. It also links them to various of the bodies that might be helpful to them and to all of our other webpages as well. Okay, thank you very much indeed. That's very helpful. Thank you. Richard, I think that you're the next question. Yes, it's basically along the lines that John Mason was saying. So, in 1880—go back as far as that—50,000 of them, now they're 74, covering 0.2 per cent of tenancy land or 0.5 of agricultural land. Small land holders don't have the right to buy, as farmers' secure 1991 tendencies do, or an absolute right to buy, as crofters do. However, why is that? As both the agricultural holdings legislative review group and the land reform review group have recommended that small land holders should have the right to buy, why have you chosen not to do that since they're only 74 and we resolved the situation by allowing them to buy? First of all, Mr Lyle mentions that the number of small land holders has reduced, and it's fair to say that the use of this form of tenure has fallen into diswetude and disuse and has been replaced by other statutory forms of tenancy such as those under the Ikeholdings Act or private contractual arrangements that have been devised by parties contracting on a private basis. So, this form of land tenure has sort of fallen into disuse. I think that's fair to say in respect of new instances of it. One of the issues that has been raised is the right to buy as has been mentioned. Plainly, I think that the first step is, because we are at the early stages of this debate following the review, is to explore exactly the nature of the current legal tenure and the peculiarities relating to it about ownership, which I think are unique in respect of the house, but not the land that is owned, as I understand it. I think that the first step would be to see the guide that Sir Crispin provides in relatively short order. To look at that as a statement of the law would be a good starting point about considering any move on from that. My right to mind would be a very significant undertaking, and there are a number of issues that would have to be considered. There are significant legal and ECHR issues, and members will be aware of the provisions of the case of Salveson v Riddle, for example. I'm not expressing a legal opinion here. I'm merely making the point that these are sensitive and difficult legal areas, and the Scottish Government has no plans to legislate on these matters at the moment. On the other hand, we are willing to continue and keen to continue to commence this debate, which is what we are doing, and I think that that debate will be informed by Sir Crispin's very welcome contribution to it. Can I ask your officials through you, convener? Has any of these 74 people made a request to buy? Do we speak to them? Have we been in contact with them? They are free to make their private arrangements, so it will be up to each individual to do so. I would be astonished if there hasn't been private contractional arrangements made over the years by individuals with their landlord to come to a negotiated conclusion, which is always the best way to move on and to reach an alternative arrangement. Small landowners are free to make their private arrangements, but the right to buy has certainly been identified by some of them as being of interest to them. Although, of course, I think that I did point out that we only have formal responses from about just under a quarter of the small landowners involved, which is a quarter of 74. Richard R.H.A. I'm fine, thank you. Peter, I think that the next question is yours. Given that we are told that the last primary legislation on small landholdings was way back in 1931, there is no modern small landholding legislation. Given that situation, why have you chosen not to ask the Scottish Law Commission to review the law on small landholdings and to recommend reforms? Do you agree that the current legal situation of small landowners is unfair? As I said, the first step is to provide some clarity as to what the law actually is, and Sir Crispin has agreed to do that, and he's working with us on that. I think that that's the first step. The second step would be, I imagine, for the committee to consider that and, in the light of the responses of small landowners, we haven't given consideration to whether we ask the Scottish Law Commission to do any work on that, but that would be an option open to us, and it may well be an appropriate option, and I'm certainly not ruling it out. I think that we need to go in stages here not to ignore the fruits of the work that we're doing at the moment in direct response to the review, which I hope will be work that is welcomed by the committee. I mean, as to whether the law is fair or unfair, I think that those are matters of subjective judgment, and I think that because I've got the duty as minister to consider things in the round, it would be premature for me to opine on that general concept of fairness at the moment in the absence of the completion of the work that we've agreed to do, and which will be done fairly soon after all. The fact that we're having this debate today is the first time perhaps for half a century or more that this has been considered at all, so I think that it is a good thing. For any small landholders that are listening to this or who read this, we are interested in your position. We value the role of small farmers in Scotland, and we're debating it because we want to see if there are ways that we can help, but we also have a duty to consider things very carefully when it comes to possible law reform. I'll just conclude by saying, but it will appear that these 74 have been left behind somewhat, and the law has moved on in various areas, and they seem to have been missed out in the whole thing. If you have any specific proposals, I'm very happy to consider them. The Scottish Government said that it would consider whether small holdings should be included in the remit of either the Crofting Commission or the Tenant Farming Commission. First of all, do you agree that it needs an umbrella or a body to do it, and who do you think that should be? It's right to say that small landholdings do not currently fall within the remit of any organisation. Given the relatively small numbers, it would not be a sensible step to go to the expense of creating an entirely new commission. I don't think that that would be practical, so the review recommends that the work could be undertaken by either the Crofting Commission or the Tenant Farmers Commissioner, and coverage by an umbrella body could provide the sector with an independent source of information and dispute resolution for some issues. Those bodies do not and would not replace the jurisdiction of the Scottish Land Court, but we are in discussions with both the Scottish Land Commission and the Crofting Commission, convener, regarding the potential options. The Crofting Commission has indicated that it may be agreeable in principle to expanding its remit to including statutory small landholders, subject to further consideration of resource implications and discussion at the board. However, extending the Crofting Commission's remit would require legislative change, but we would welcome the views of the committee on this issue. If it needs legislative change, that's one thing, but do you have a view? You suggested that the Crofting Commission might be able to take it on. I think that the committee would like to know what your suggestion is. Would it be the Crofting Commission? If so, would you then bring forward legislation, the timescales? Could you give us an idea of your opinion on that? I haven't formed an opinion yet, because I think that we're at the start of a debate. Generally speaking, it's prudent to wait until the debate is finished before ministers come to decision. I'd be aware of any view that I express here, not as Fergus Ewing, but as the Government minister. I'm not being overly cautious. It's just that this is the first time that we're debating these things. I think that it would be wrong for me to rush into a view, particularly since we're talking about third parties here. We are in discussions. The Crofting Commission, I've said, are willing. The Crofting Commission, of course, deals with crofters. The nearest analogy to small landowners is probably with crofters. I think that there would be a fit there, in principle, which is presumably why the Crofting Commission expressed its willingness to explore further. I think that Festina Lente should be the approach here, and that's how I'm minded to proceed. Stuart Scott has a small question, and then we're going to move on to Jeremy. It's an observation. Given that the Crofting Commission is an elected body in a geographical area, and of course a number of those small holdings are out with the area that is covered, I merely suggest that the Government proceed with caution because of that mismatch that there would be people who were differentiated against some of their number by being able to influence the outcomes and others. That was all. I think that that's an observation. Jeremy, do you want to go with the next question? Thank you, convener. I have a keen interest in this as many of the small landowners are on the island of Arran, which is in my region. Arran, I should point out, is a real island. There are also many in other parts of Scotland that are outside of the designated crofting areas, such as in Ayrshire, Dumfrieshire and other parts of the Borders. When we are looking at whether we should be linking the strategy or the legislation around small landholdings with crofting, what attention has been given to the complexities that that might give, given that many of those landholdings are not in designated crofting areas? Has the Minister had any further thoughts since we last discussed crofting strategy of whether we should actually be linking both legislation and strategy for those different types of holdings? Thank you for pointing out that Arran is an island. Crofting and small landholdings have strong historical ties, so we welcome all views of the relationship between the two and how that can be taken forward in the future. Mr Stevenson has made a very relevant observation about one of the practicalities that the Crofting Commission is a body that board members are elected. The small landholdings are outwith the crofting counties, but they would not, without legislative reform, have an elected voice in that body. That would thereby, where they would be brought within the ambit of the Crofting Commission, create an anomaly that I am quite sure MSPs would ask to be resolved or dealt with by one way or another. The commission indicated that it felt that there was merit in bringing small landholdings and crofting legislation together on the same register, while retaining the separate identities that one would have to of both types of tenure. It could be possible for a new administrative register to be put in place, and that will be considered as part of our retrospective research project. At the moment, for the reasons that I have already set out, no final decision has been made on the inclusion of small landholdings in any crofting bill. The consultation that we have just recently launched on crofting is wide, and it will give consultees the opportunity to comment on the links with small landholdings, and we will review the matter in the light of the consultation responses, including any comments that Mr Greene's constituents in Arran may wish to make. The final question is to Gail Ross. What is your timetable for taking any practical action to progress the commitments made? We are taking forward the review recommendations. Now, I have indicated the timeline of some of the webpages up and running. The guide will be available. Research has been progressed. I would like to come back to the committee sometime in the early course of next year to see what stage we have to then, particularly if that permits the guide to be published, and for us to just consider all aspects of the review recommendations. I hope that that kind of timescale would be acceptable to the committee. Those things do, if necessity, take some time to develop. I am very pleased that we have, for the first time in Scotland, made an effort to look into and show respect and interest for a small but interesting and important part of Scottish rural life. That is all our questions. I would just like to confirm that the committee takes interest in small holdings because they think that it is important. I think that the very fact, as you have highlighted, that it has not been addressed for a long period of time means that we are keen to make sure that it does not slip off our radar. We will look to ask you to come back and maybe when the legal opinions are clearer. We will take you up on that offer. Thank you very much for your time this morning, Cabinet Secretary. I would now like to move the meeting into private session.


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Tonight's FBI file the walkie-talkie stick ups During six horrible years of war Millions of human beings were slaughtered and today countless other millions are homeless and starving All because the younger generations of two nations had been imbued with a savage contempt for the rights and property of others Had grown up in the belief that the way to get what you want was to steal it and if necessary use a gun Today the lives and rights and property of American citizens are being assaulted by the biggest army of criminals in the country's entire history How old are they? More than one out of five is under 21 years of age and the percentage is increasing Last year the largest number of arrests in all age groups was a boys and girls 17 years old Boys more or less like those in tonight's case from the files of your FBI Young Jack Chase whose crippled leg had long since earned him the cruel nickname Gimpy Spent most of his time in his little workshop in the cellar of the chase house in Cincinnati And that's where he was that afternoon with his younger brother Freddy and Freddy's running mate Knuckles Butler Brought him a problem to solve for them Can we come in Jack? Huh? Oh sure come ahead Go ahead Knuckles Okay Me and Knuckles want you to show us how to work something Oh what do you got? If you lay off what you're doing I'm gonna have Gimpy we'll show you My name is Jack Okay Look at these things over will you Jack? Wonky talky radio sets That's right They're brand new Mm-hmm And they got US Army stamped on them too No kid What did you and Knuckles get these Freddy? Well we got My cousin just got home from the Army He had them and we borrowed them Okay That's right Jack that's where we got them I see How did it work? Well they had to be set at the same frequency first Then what? I'll show you See we'll make it 112 mega cycles We'll make the wavelength about two and a half meters What does that mean Jack? Well I would take too long to explain You want to set this other too don't you? Yeah Let's see There we are I'll pull out the antenna like this Mm-hmm When you want to talk what do you do? Flip the switch over this way Well what about when the other guy's talking? You flip it back I get it Now how can we tell if these things are working? Well look I'll go outside and see if we can make contact Okay Leave your switch like it is till you hear me Right This looks like it's gonna be real easy Knuckles Yeah Do you talk now?   Fred do you hear me? He didn't say job he said joke We're gonna take these things out tonight and have some fun I'm on the roof of the warehouse you dope Quit talking unless you gotta warn me about something Get down here I found the door to the stairs that lead down inside An island is supposed to be on the top floor So it'll happen to take me long Just keep a watch out for the cops I'm going down in now Is it stopping there?  Now wait a minute Don't flip that switch so your pal can hear what's going on I want to get him too Knuckles how you doing? I don't ask him to tell you Give me that thing I'll handle the switch and tell you what to say Hi Knuckles Something wrong?  Sure I got it You get this too Sure kid I'll get the nylons and be with you in a minute Then two hours later that night in the office of agent and charge Revere of the Cincinnati field office of the FBI I'm a night watchman down to Medford brothers warehouse Mr. Revere You seem to have taken quite a going over Yeah You had a pretty good knock in the head I guess What happened? Well I've already reported the burglar to the police But I thought you fellas might be interested too You say burglary? Yes A couple of hours ago Two kids Pulted Kids, huh? There's an awful lot of them getting in trouble these days Yeah Now I came to you I remember reading in the paper this morning about that army stuff That was broken into down on the river docks last night Oh yes, yes There were some binoculars and walkie-talkie radio sets stolen These kids tonight Mr. Revere used walkie-talkies What? One of them was posted down the street for a lookout While the other one came inside by the roof to steal some nylons I should have held on to the one kid I had Instead of trying to get him to get the other one inside too That's when you got struck down? That's right Did you get a look at his walkie-talkie set it on? Yes, it had US Army stamped on it You must have been able to get a pretty fair description of the boy too Yes sir, I'd say he's about 17 or 18 Oh, just a minute I want to get special agent Niles in on this Yes sir And then we'll get to work and see if we can save a couple of youngsters from getting into even more serious trouble than they have tonight What is it friend? Has Knuckles been here? No Where is that guy? He's supposed to meet me here an hour ago You're seeing quite a bit of him lately aren't you? Yeah, why? He's not a good guy to hang around with Now wait a minute, since when are you running my life? I'm just giving you some good advice Well, save it You know he was arrested last month for breaking into a candy store over on Front Street He didn't hang that job on him, he got off Nevertheless he was guilty, and you know it All I know is he's the right guy, so lay off of him Look Freddy, my only concern is that he doesn't get you into trouble Stop preaching will ya? I can look out for myself Revere speaking This is Niles Mr. Revere Good, I'm glad you called in But I haven't got any lead on those kids yet Maybe I have What? A woman just phoned She'd read about the walkie talkies being stolen Yeah? Yeah, she saw a kid next door to her house yesterday afternoon using one Uh-uh The boy has a cripple leg, so he couldn't have been the one who slugged the night watchman But he could have been the one who played lookout Mmm, it's possible Anyway, you better hop out and have a talk with the boy Here's the name and address Jack Chase? Yeah, that's right My name is Niles, I'm a special agent of the FBI FBI? That's right Well, what are you doing here? I'd like to ask you a few questions Okay, what about? A walkie talking radio set Huh? Do you have one around here? No, sir Why? The neighbor of yours said she saw you using one yesterday afternoon Look, what's this all about? Robbery was committed last night by two boys, they're used walkie talkies They believe they're the same ones that were stolen from an army warehouse I don't know anything about them I understand you have a brother Yeah, that's right Is he around? No, sir But I'm sure he didn't have anything to do with it either We were both home last night when that robbery was committed I can prove it How do you know you can? Because I... I didn't tell you what time the robbery happened Well, I...  I had to wait around to see that guy downtown Did he buy the nylons? Sure How much? 50 bucks 50? Well, 10 times that you told me yourself Look, we're just starting Wait until we get a rep Then we can write our own ticket I took a lot of chances for a measly fifth Save the beefs, will ya? Is your brother in the cellar? I don't know Let's go see Why? I'd like to clip him for a couple of chisels Come on What do you need chisels for? How do you think we break into places? Bring in doorbells? Oh Okay Hi, Jack I've been waiting for you, Freddie Yeah? And you, too, knuckles What for? I had a visitor a little while ago He was from the FBI What did he want? I think you already know What are you talking about?   Nothing Yes What do you mean by that? I'm going to give you both a chance first to go down to the FBI and tell them you did it What do you want to do? See your own brother throwing on the clink? He'll only get in worse trouble hanging around with you You going to do as I say, Freddie? No Okay I gave you a chance Wait a minute, Gimp Yeah? Where do you think you're going?  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Oh, hello The nurse said I could come in Okay Okay Thanks How did you know I was here? I went to your house again a while ago to see you But you told them it was a hit-and-run driver that knocked you down Well, that's what it was Automobiles can mess up a fella like you are messed up, Jack but I never knew one to reach out and punch their victim in the eye, too What do you mean? You've got a beautiful shiner Look, I got it just... Jack, where's your brother? I don't know You mean he hasn't even been here to see you? Yeah, sure Sure he was here Well, then he must have come in and gone out by the window Nobody in the hospital saw him Nobody at home knows where he is Nobody at Knuckles' house knows where he is, either Knuckles?  Who said they did? I could tell today that you'd guessed who committed that crime last night so when you wouldn't talk, I left you wrong Now look, mister Then you went to Freddie and Knuckles and advised them to confess and that's when they beat you up, isn't it? I'm not talking Look, you're not sparing your folks or Freddie either, Jack What do you mean? You're letting them in for a much bigger shock later on You're only saving Freddie for that day when he kills somebody and gets sent to the electric chair How do you feel about that knowing that you could have prevented it? What do you want to know? Everything I've said is the truth, isn't it? Yes Then where are they? I don't know Honest, I don't All right, but you can still help Maybe you can tell me something about those walkie-talkies Freddie Yeah? Do me a favor, will you? What? Quit sneaking along the street like you're wearing a convict suit I can't help it Look, we got here to Louisville OK, didn't we? Yeah, but nobody knows we're here But they'll keep looking, Knuckles And when they get to Louisville, we'll be gone Only guys that stop moving and stop using their heads get caught Maybe so I gotta, gotta hang out I'll case out another job I've got to raise some dope first Come on Where we going? To find a hot shop What for? I'm gonna hack these binoculars That'll bring us 20, 25 What'll a guy think when he sees US Army stamped on them? You know, he's getting the best there is That's all Let's go Send for me, Mr. Riviere Yes, that alert we put out on the walkie-talkies and binoculars last night is paid off Yeah? I just got a call from the office in Louisville What happened? Two kids answering the description of the ones we're after Pawned some Army binoculars there about an hour ago Oh, then I guess I better start rolling Spencer of the Louisville office will be waiting to give you a hand Good All I hope is the kids don't get rid of those walkie-talkies too What's up, Freddie?    You're up to your ears now, same as I am I don't care, I'm going back home and give myself up And you ought to do the same, Knuckles Not me I'm just getting started And when we finish this job, I'm heading west No, no, I'm not helping you Oh, yes I don't want you I'll get somebody with some guts But this job, we do together I'm trying to pull in this thing tonight, Miles We better wait it out, Spencer Maybe they changed their frequency According to the butter, they don't know that much about it We had to set it for them Well, our receiver is set at 112 megacycles, too I wish we would pick up something Of course it's possible He might be doing a job without you walking Wait a minute, huh? Yeah, step on it I'm starting out the back way now The way I came in I'll clear out front Buddy, what's the matter? Who said that? Special Agent of the FBI, Knuckles I just picked up Freddie outside Well, what is this? Special Agent 2 And you're both coming back to Cincinnati How did you find us? When we get to Cincinnati I'll let a certain cripple boy tell you all about it, son Come on Because of his youth And his sincere desire to go straight again Young Freddie Chase was released to his parents And put on his good behavior For a period of six months The boy called Knuckles Butler, however Showed no spirit of repentance whatsoever And he is now serving a term In a school of correction Tonight, ladies and gentlemen We bring you a timely message On the subject of juvenile delinquency From the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Mr. J. Edgar Hoover America's crime bill Runs into billions annually If it could be diverted The standard of living of every family in the nation Would be raised Increasingly, our crime problem Is becoming a youth problem A generation of right living and right thinking Could bring crime to a minimum If all parents would devote Only a little more time to their children Learning to know and understand them Influencing them by example Winning their confidence by companionship And instilling in them a heartfelt respect For the rights of others And for constituted authority They would be investing in their future Happiness and security It is not too late to capitalize Upon the vacation theme A time when many young people Are not thoroughly occupied Now that school is out Your son or daughter, niece or nephew Grandson or granddaughter Brother or sister Needs real companionship and understanding Give them a chance by seeing to it That they have your company During their vacation And yours will be more meaningful By having them with you In just a moment, we'll tell you About next week's colorful story From the files of your FBI Once again, friends Let me remind you that no matter how much you earn You have a valuable asset in social security And your equitable society representative Will gladly show you how easy it is To build your social security Into full security He'll explain to you how social security And life insurance can work together For your complete protection And will help you determine Exactly where you stand under social security No obligation, of course Phone him tomorrow Your equitable society representative Is listed in your local phone book Under the name Equitable E-Q-U-I-T-A-B-L-E The Equitable Life Assurance Society Of the United States Next week, we will bring you Another colorful story from the files Of the Federal Bureau of Investigation The sinister witness The incidents used in tonight's Equitable Life Assurance Society's broadcast Are adapted from the files Of the Federal Bureau of Investigation The role of J. 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