All right, so this is gonna be good. This is gonna be fun today. This is something different. And I will tell you, all of this is gonna be done today without notes. Why? Because I saved it somewhere and I lost it. And that's the honest to God truth. I was just in there freaking out. I'm like, I've got all these notes. I spent all this time on doing that stuff there. And unfortunately, they got lost. This stuff happens. And I'm sure they're there. I'm sure they're there, but anyhow. So put where you're from, what time it is, where you're at. I know we got people from all around the world, which is pretty cool. We've got a circle of Jessica there. So Jessica's with me today. It on my screen, there's a circle of Jessica, but she's live. Jessica, say hi. Yeah, and we're also working on my studio here. We're gonna redo the lighting in it and get that all changed up. So in that comment section, make sure you put in there where you're from, what time it is, and I see your name. So I don't have to worry about that. And I'm gonna be switching back and forth between, oh, okay, there we go. You're in Lithuania, okay. Austria, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been talking for a while. And then I'm gonna switch back over to this one I've got in YouTube. And Jessica, what are you seeing on your screen there as far as the actual webinar now? Yeah. To, it's like... Okay, well, it may not have caught up yet because I was switching back and forth, but anyhow, guys, motivation, this is the time to talk about this, right? This is the actual beginning of the year. Now, we're 17 days into it, whatever today's the 17th of January, 2020. 2020, my God. And what can we do to be motivated? Motivation is a really tricky thing. And your mind will tell you to do stuff. Hey, Christine, what's going on, Marco? Okay, everybody's flooding in now, I'm starting to see everybody. Colorado, it's 1203. And that's David there. And it's 1103, Christine says, okay, so yeah, you're in California, Christine, so we are too. But I want you guys to feel free. Hey, Christine's saying hello to you, Jessica there. I want you guys to feel free to ask questions about this. This is a really open session today. This is my inner circle group that are attending, but we also have people live on YouTube that are attending on this. And I think it's best to start off the year getting motivated, right? Getting motivated, making sure you feel like doing stuff you wanna do. And I'm gonna actually look at the camera, but I'm gonna look at the screen the whole time. I should be looking at the camera, but I'm trying to reach the comments too. Because getting that motivation is really gonna be crucial to your success this year. And having that motivation and keeping that motivation is really important. Now, I'll have people tell me, oh, motivation's BS. I've been to those things. And that stuff just wears off after a while. And yeah, you feel good for a day. And then it just wears off and you don't have it anymore. And you know what? That is like 100% true. Let me get a little sip here. It's so true.  It's kinda like eating.  You say, I'm gonna eat this one time and I'm done. Okay, I'm gonna be full. No, because it wears off, right?  So, you know, motivation is a lot like eating. It makes you feel good.  And then it goes away when something bad happens. It goes away when you're tired. It goes away when you're sick. It goes away when, you know, things are going wrong or you have money problems. Then all of a sudden, you know, that motivation thing, that's tough. Oh, I see Marco just came in from Finland. That's very cool. Nice to see you, Marco. Now, if some of you guys are new to me on this channel, we don't talk any BS, okay? This is my inner circle group, but we're actually broadcasting live on YouTube today, too. And, you know, I've been selling online since like 2009. Let me just give you a little backstory on me. And since that time, we've sold millions of dollars worth of digital and physical products. And in doing so, you know, figured out a few things. We've learned a few things. We've learned how to do ads and we've learned how to do marketing and we've learned how to, you know, communicate with people. We've learned how to, you know, distribute stuff, whether it's drop shipping, whether it's our physical warehouse, which we also have. Our main company, if you guys don't know it, is Survival Cave Food. I mean, that is the main company, Survival Cave Food. And Jessica, if you don't mind, would you put that in the comments section? And can you also put stuff in the comments section on YouTube, Jessica? Sure you can. Yeah, yeah, so she'll put that in there too, guys. So if you're not on the inner circle call within Webinar Jam, which is where we're actually broadcasting this, you'll be able to see that. And I wanna switch over here real quick. So we've determined, we've determined what? We've determined that you have to have motivation. Now we haven't determined what motivation is though. That's the problem. Now, everybody thinks that if you just motivate somebody, they're gonna be successful. And nothing could be further from the truth. I mean, that's just not the case. And that's why people don't do well with motivation is they think that if you just motivate somebody that they're gonna be successful. Now, I'm gonna tell you that there's an added component that's needed with motivation. And that added component is what? Education, okay? So you can be motivated. That's cool. That's great. Motivation's awesome. But then what do you do? Okay, you need education. You gotta know what to do with that motivation.  I mean, you can put your reply there in the comment section.  Kind of interesting to think about for a second, isn't it? I know because I've seen people like this where, you know, they're motivated but nobody ever educated them. So since they aren't educated, you end up with basically a motivated idiot, right? So that's not good. You gotta have this education. So on this channel, in my inner circle and on this channel, what I do is I share with you the things that we actually do because, yeah, somebody's got it. Who's that? Who's that? Robert, Robert figured it out.  That's certainly correct, Robert.  That's when you don't really get things accomplished. You know, and I'll give you an example today. You know, I started my, I got ready to do my coaching call and lost my presentation. So I said, well, I'm just gonna have to go on screen because I'm committed to this, right? There's people who I never gonna show up and I'm committed to doing this. I can't go, oh, I lost my stuff. Let's just cancel. I didn't say it out loud because I was upset at the time.  You really are. So let's talk about that motivation. If motivation is not what they told us it was, what is motivation? Well, motivation usually comes out of some form of success. Okay, so it's just the option of what they told you. It's not, you know, motivation is success. Success is motivation.  Did you notice that right after success comes motivation? So the question there in lies is, if you need motivation to be successful, how are you gonna have success to get motivated, right? It all seems backwards the way they've taught it to us. And this is how it works. You have to figure out the things that you wanna do. Number one, what do you wanna do? So we're gonna say number one today is, you know, what do you wanna accomplish this year?   Do you wanna make, you know, $100,000 this year selling online? Do you wanna make $500,000? And no, to some of you, you may say, well, $100,000 or $500,000, that sounds like an awful lot of money. Understand money is relative, okay? If I told Elon Musk, who just took $40 million in deposits on his truck, that he would make $100,000 this year, he would freak. He would go, no, I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't, no way. He says, I need millions of dollars a year. So it's all relative. And the first thing you gotta do if you're setting this goal of whatever you wanna achieve this year, if you've gotta change your mindset, you gotta say, wait a second, there are people doing this. There are people making money out there right now and they're making more than X, okay? So if your X is $100,000 this year, and I will tell you, if I made $100,000, I would freak out because that's not gonna cover all my expenses. But if that's your starting point, that's fine. But understand that whatever your starting point is, there's probably somebody higher out there. So the first thing you gotta get in your head is it's possible. If you don't have it in your head that it's possible, none of this motivation stuff that I wanna tell you about today will make a bit of difference because if your mind doesn't believe something's possible, then you're not gonna be able to do it. And now a good example of this is many years ago, I think it was in the 50s and somebody can correct me on this. But it was believed that nobody, no human being could run at four minute mile. Couldn't do it. Wouldn't be possible. There's no way it's not physically possible. The body would break down and couldn't be done. And along comes this guy named Roger Bannister. And Roger Bannister broke the four minute mile. He ran faster than four minutes and did an entire mile. Now that being said, he basically proved to everybody it could be done. Now here's the funny thing. There were several people that same year that broke the four minute mile. Now what caused that? What was the occurrence that made it possible for him to break the four minute mile? First off, and then more importantly, why did all these other people break the four minute mile? Well, somehow in his mind, he ignored the science and he said, no, I can do it. I can break the four minute mile. Now the other people, they had it much easier. They didn't have to convince themselves anymore, did they? No, all they had to do was go, this guy did it over here. He broke the four minute mile and since he broke the four minute mile, now I know I can. And it was just that knowing. So all those people prior to that, all the thousands of people tried to do that before they couldn't do it because they didn't have that example in their life. It wasn't there. It wasn't something that they saw accomplished. Now you guys listening to this today, if your goal is to make $100,000 this year or $500,000 or a million or whatever it is, you don't have to look forward. You can literally type into Google and search success stories online. I mean, do it. And that's my next step is once you have decided what you wanna do and how you're gonna do it. So I say, I'm gonna sell $100,000 online and I'm gonna do it by doing drop shipping. So the next thing you wanna do is go to Google and type in drop shipping success stories online. And you're gonna find tons of stories.  So there are people doing this. There are people making incredible amounts of money online and that's available to me too. Now, I know when I started my business in 2009, and the next part of this is gonna be your motivation. So you need to find your motivation. My motivation was that I was in a job. It was okay. I mean, there was nothing wrong with it.  My dog's chiming in in the background there. So I was a single dad and I was raising these two kids just cause gonna go take care of our dog. She is alerting us. Awesome. And this is what happens when you do a live cast of her. But anyhow, I was on this job and the one thing that really I guess stuck in my craw, the one thing that really got to me was that I didn't like my boss. I didn't like him. I mean, it really came down to something as simple as that that I didn't like this guy. I didn't think he had good morals. He didn't have good work ethic. And yet he was my boss, okay?  I got to do something else. Now, I wasn't a young man. I was 50, okay? This was going back 10 years ago. And I didn't have any technical skills. I didn't grow up with, you know, smartphones. Matter of fact, I grew up when I was a kid with dial phones. We literally had the dial thing, right? So technology, you know, it was way beyond me at that point in my life, 2009. It's not now. It's not now. And that's what I want to share with you that's super, super important guys is it doesn't matter what your knowledge level is right now. That's irrelevant. You're never going to go into this business. You're never going to go into selling stuff online and having never done it, walk up and go, I know everything. I mean, it's crazy. But that's what a lot of people do. They stop themselves because they say, well, you know, I really can't do anything because I haven't done this before and I don't know anything about this. No kidding. That's how everybody starts, you know? And sometimes they'll say, well, I didn't grow up with, you know, all this technology so I want to have a hard time with it. Don't tell yourself that. Do not tell yourself that because it's so far from true. The truth is technology's out there and it's easier to learn now than it was back then. I know in 2009, you had to paste a lot of things together. You had to, you know, get an email provider and then you had to figure out how to do some type of graphics for sales page and then you had to have some type of sales page, you know, code and all these things you had to figure out in 2009. You don't have to do now. You can use things like Cartra and Jessica, do you have the link to Cartra? I think it's bit.ly forward slash Cartra dash uppercase jr. So check that out, guys. So that's a software that will do a lot of this stuff for you that you don't have to do it. So in the sequence that we're talking today, it's figure out what you want to do, okay? Number one, figure out what you want to do. Number two, believe you can do it by finding examples out there, right? Find your motivation, okay? In examples. Then find your real motivation for doing it. Now my real motivation for doing it was I wanted more time with my kids. I wanted to travel. I wanted to get away from my boss. And I did, I just, I wanted to get away from this guy. It was just, it was unbearable to work for this guy. I couldn't do it anymore, it's just too much. So that was my motivation. And I will tell you, motivation which stems from disgust or frustration is one of the best motivations you can have. So if you're at that stage where you're frustrated, you know, maybe you've tried to do some stuff online.   I can't count how many times I got really frustrated at a situation or a product or whatever it is, you know, or income or whatever sales page, whatever it is. And you got to kind of push through that because if you do on the other side of that frustration and I look at frustration and problems is a wall that is put up between people who are weak in success. Did you get that? There's a wall between people who are weak and real success because people are strong, you know, they see the wall and they go, it doesn't matter. You know, I'm going to keep going forward. I'm not going to let this bother me and I'm going to keep moving forward. I'm not going to let it bother me. Today when I lost my notes for my coaching call, I was like, ah, you know, but, you know, I still go through with it. You have to go through with it. You've got to do these things. You got to do them when you don't feel like it.  I think I'm going to start a business and I think I'm going to sell some products. And, you know, when I kind of get motivated, I'm going to start looking for products. I'm going to start fair to how to do this stuff. You know, I just, I kind of get that motivation going first. Don't do it. Don't do it, no. Ignore the fact that you're not motivated because the motivation will come.  That first time sale, I know my first time sale was $10 and I was so motivated by this. I remember running into a living room and my kids were in there and I'm like, man, I sold something online. They were like, great, would you sell? And I told them what I sold and it wasn't even a related product to what I'm selling now.  I said, well, I didn't really make much. I only sold $10. And they both turned and looked at each other. Like, I was crazy. They were like, well, $10 is nothing, dad, it's nothing. But they had missed the point because they were kids at the time. The point was I had made something and that's something that $10 sale motivated me to say, wait a second, if I can sell one of these at $10, maybe I could sell two, maybe I could sell three, maybe I could sell four. And it's really that getting started.  And that's where too many people are led down their own path. They're like, well, as soon as I get motivated, I'm gonna do something. My whole problem is I don't have the motivation I need. And that is not your problem. That has never been your problem because anybody who's ever succeeded in anything did not start with motivation. They started with a goal and they started with something they wanted to do and they looked for inspiration by looking out there and trying to find people who had done some of the same things to prove to themselves, to prove to their brain that it could be done. And then they just started working on it. They didn't necessarily feel motivated. Now, there may be people who get up every single day and is motivated to do work every single day, motivated to really get going every single day, but I don't believe it. I don't believe it's true. I believe most people have to push themselves. And another analogy is guys, if you've ever been to the gym, going to the gym's not fun. Okay, now it may be for some people. My son's a bodybuilder and he's all into that. And he says he likes going to the gym but when I really corner him on it, I said, do you feel like doing it every day? He goes, well, no, I don't feel like doing it every day. I said, well, why do you do it? He says, because of the results. So once again, it comes down to the results. If you go to the gym for a week and you don't see any results, is it easy to lose your motivation? The answer is, yeah, it's real easy to lose your motivation. But if you continue to go to the gym for two weeks and three weeks and three months and four months and six months, is it possible that if you force yourself to do this every single day or five days a week or three or whatever you've selected, is it possible you could see some results? And the obvious intelligent answer to this is, of course. Of course.  I probably may even see a difference in my body. And that's the thing that's gonna motivate you. That's the thing that's gonna motivate you. Once you start to see results in online sales, in your business, in your life, whatever it is you're trying to achieve, that's where your motivation's gonna come from. So in this session today, if you get nothing else, but you get the fact that it's what you do that's gonna gain you the motivation, not the motivation's gonna get the success, then you've won. You've won. You've got this, okay? So put in the comments if you're understanding this. If you get the concept of motivation versus success, because they are really closely related, but they're backwards. You need to be successful before you can be motivated. So if you're getting this, put that in the comments there and I'm gonna switch back and forth between YouTube and my inner circle group over here. My inner circle group's awesome. Love you guys. You are just awesome. But put in there if they get that. Robert says, yeah, he gets it. And Denny says he gets it. And Eric says he gets it. Now, you're not gonna see all the comments for everybody else, guys. So don't let that freak you out. Go, oh, I don't wanna do the only one comment. You're not the only one. There's plenty of people commenting. I have the comment section term to private right now, just for this setup today to make sure we got everything working right. So don't worry about that. But I do wanna hear from everybody.  Let's see here. Christine is saying, so far I've sold only $24 worth of books with no advertising at all. I know, Christine, how you doing? That showed me that it can work if I start advertising and marketing. So yes, I get it, cool, cool. And I know Christine very well. She is one of our inner circle people. And you could do this stuff, guys. You could do this. I mean, I'm a guy who had zero experience. I was in the car business. You know, what am I doing selling stuff online? What right do I have to sell stuff online? And I finally told myself, I had the same right that everybody else does.  And I encouraged her a little bit, but that's not what got her to accomplish things. What got her to accomplish things was putting forth effort. You know, and I told her she could do it. Maybe she needed somebody to tell her she could do it, but she's super smart. I mean, super smart. Like, you know, this morning, I couldn't get some of these technical things worked out within seconds, she did. And the first thing she always tells me because I think she's always afraid of not being able to figure out what I need. And she'll say, well, I don't know anything about that. Well, I'll look at it. So she kind of prefixes it with that, but she always seems to figure it out. Is that not right, Jessica? Yell out. Yeah. Yes. And you know what she's done is she has started training dogs. Now I will tell you when I met her in 2010, she didn't even think she liked dogs. And she's getting ready to do a really cool webinar, guys. And I would highly recommend you check it out if you have a pet, but she's doing a training on how to get your dogs to stop barking. Wow, that's pretty cool, right? Imagine, you know, and our dog is trained at this point. This is what she's done with our dog. She's trained the dog.  We can sit on the couch at this point, look at her and go, thank you. And she stops and she'll walk over and lay back down because we have taught her that communication. And that's how good Jessica's training is. So I'm gonna put a link over there, Jessica. Could you put a link on YouTube and in a webinar jam to your training? You can't put links on YouTube? You can't put links on YouTube. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. We can't put the links there. But you could say it out loud. You could do that. So to register? Yeah, yeah. If they wanna get that free training from you. So she's gonna get that for you guys. But on top of that, she wrote a book. Now, some of you may go, and I know Christine's written books. She's the one that's called right now, you know, people think, well, man, people write books. They're so intelligent. They're so smart. They know how to do so much. And that's just not the case, guys. If you've been through school, you've written a book. You just did it in pieces. You had to write different papers throughout school. And if you add them all up, it's a book. It's not really that hard to do. So Jessica actually put a drop to link in there for you guys. If you wanna register for that dog training, I would definitely do it. It's a dog barking masterclass. That's pretty cool, right? Dog barking masterclass. And you also have a Facebook group, Jessica. Somebody's asking, do you have any other information? Could you put your Facebook group in there too? She has a free group guys called the Art of Pet Parenting.  But I'm trying to show you, she went from, I don't think I like dogs in 2010 to loving dogs, being involved in dog rescue, having dog courses, having a dog Facebook group, writing a book on dogs.  Did she have a right to do that? Well, you would say initially no, she didn't because she didn't know anything about it. But she just did what I told you to do, guys. She picked a goal, she went out and got educated. She watched other people doing this, so she got the motivation. You follow a lot of people in that too, don't you, Jessica? Yes. She follows a lot of dog trainers. And you can say more than just the word yes, Jessica. She doesn't talk a whole lot, so you may wanna mention who you follow or something, you know, tell me a little bit about that.  Yeah, who do you follow? Victoria Stilwell, she follows her. Absolute dog trainer. What do you learn from these people? Why do you follow them? What's the point? You should always continue to educate yourself. And if there's something that someone else is doing that I can learn from and be better because I learned from it, then I should do it. Yeah, so she's basically saying she learns from these people, guys. And that learning, okay, helps her educate herself and then she can do some of the same similar stuff. And I've had people say, well, I don't wanna go out and educate people with somebody else's information. It's not their information. They learned it from somebody else. Nobody, nobody owns information. And, you know, the purpose of this call today is all about motivation, but I'm just trying to show you different ways that you can get this motivation and not lose it. And, you know, please don't tell me things like YouTube doesn't work or Facebook ads don't work or Google ads don't work because that's insanity. Why? Why do I know this? Because people are doing it, right? They're doing it. They're getting results.  What does it tell you?  No, of course not. You're not a bad person. It tells you that you may be doing it wrong, okay? So what you do to get yourself motivated is go find those people who are getting results, see what they're doing and emulate that. Take what they're doing and put it into yours. Now, don't steal somebody else's personality. You don't want to be just like somebody else. Like, I don't know how to be anybody else, but I do see people who try to copy other people's personality. And guys, just don't do that, guys. Be yourself, but do what they're doing. You know, I started my YouTube channel, shoot, four or five years ago, and I didn't do it right. I wasn't consistent, okay? I didn't, you know, do the title tags. I didn't do the descriptions. I didn't do the things I was supposed to do. I didn't make the videos long enough. They weren't, there were so many things wrong. And just in the past few months, I've changed all that. And we're getting a lot of results. You know, I have thousands of subscribers at this point and starting to get comments. But I know for a fact that if I keep doing the things that I see other YouTubers do, okay? And I'm not trying to be a YouTuber. I'm just trying to get information out there to educate you guys. But if I do some of the same things they do, I know I'll get the same results. It only makes sense. And so will you. So understand that this whole motivation thing is gonna start with a goal. It's gonna start with you getting inspired by other people. And here's the big one. It's gonna start with effort. Effort, effort, effort. I can't impress upon you enough effort. Now, what your mind's gonna do is it's gonna try to protect you from pain every step of the way.  Okay, it's not gonna happen, not my neighborhood. We got some coyotes though, that's a possibility. But my mind's gonna still try to protect me from anything that's gonna be uncomfortable. And last night, Jessica and I were working on her masterclass.  And she looked at me and I looked at her and it was dark and it was late. And she says, yeah, let's do that tomorrow when it's light and we'll get that video done. And I thought for a second and I actually, that ran through my brain too. And I said, no, I said, let's do it right now. She goes, we don't have any lights. We'll just get a light. We have lights in the studio. We'll just go ahead and pull the lights around and do it right now. And we did it and it only took us, how much time did we spend on that, Jessica? Five minutes, five minutes. But what did our mind do? Our mind says, wait a second, you're comfortable on the couch right now. Why don't you just wait till tomorrow, right? Now, we went ahead and did it anyhow. We didn't feel like doing it, got it done. And throughout the day, when you're trying to work on your business, you're gonna have stuff like this happen.    We don't want discomfort. We wanna be comfortable all the time. So guys, what I wanna tell you basically today and put your comments over there. If you have any questions on this motivation, if you've had trouble being motivated in the past, tell me some of the obstacles that you've come against that have really prevented you from succeeding.  And you don't wanna do that. And I know when I started my business, I was guilty of it because initially, I wanted to start this online business.  And then one day I woke up watching TV, I was sitting there on the couch, so I'm like, wait a second, I'm watching TV. Could I be taking this time and doing something else with my time that would be more valuable? Now here's the killer to this whole thing. Your mind wants to protect you from doing things that are uncomfortable. And I get it. I get it, I get it. But the things that you do that are uncomfortable right now, like back then when I turned off the TV and I started working in my online business, that was uncomfortable, really uncomfortable. But now I have the comfort and security of a business and I have more money and I can travel and do things. So you've gotta do the difficult stuff upfront. Oster says it's difficult to keep focused for longer time. Yes, it is. And I would tell you the thing to do is to take whatever you wanna do and do it in chunks. And what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take this camera here. All right, is that the camera? And I'm gonna turn it towards this wall. See this wall here guys, do you see that? These are sticky notes of things that I need to do. Now on the far side over there, I don't have things I need to do, you can't see it because I've got all these studio lights in here. But I have broken down into chunks of things I need to do, get this camera back over here again. And the best way for long-term is to set little tiny goals, okay? So I shoot videos for YouTube and I do that once a week and I try to do like 10 of them and I don't put up 10 a week. I mean, I don't do that, that would be craziness or would it be, it'd probably be good. But I try to do 10 because I wanna post five a week. So when I have to film 10 videos, I don't put on a sticky note, film 10 videos, I don't do it. What I do, and this is what you can do to stay focused for a longer time, is I break it down into segments, okay? So I'm gonna put a sticky note there, I'm gonna put make 10 titles for videos. That's my sticky note. I put it up there for a day and that day I gotta make 10 titles, okay? Now that sticky note that I put make 10 titles, when I get those 10 titles done, I'll take it and move it over to the done side. Now if you notice the done side over here, let me grab this camera again, okay? The done side over here, see all those notes? Those are all done, pretty cool, right? All those are done. Now, what does that do every day? Well, when I come in here and I see all the things I've gotten done, it really motivates me. So then I take that same task about making those 10 videos and another sticky note I'm gonna write five scripts. Not 10, write five scripts. And as soon as I get five of the scripts written and I don't write it word for word but they're bullet points or whatever, I move that note over there, I've gotten that part done. And then I'll do another sticky note and it will say write five scripts. That way I get my 10 complete and I move that over there to my done side. Now some of you may go, this is silly. It may be silly, but it works, it really does work. And then what I'll do is I'll write another sticky note where I have to actually record the videos. So, you know, also what I would tell you is take that big task and break it down into really small ones. So I've got a bunch more comments here. It says, who is this from here? Robert is saying, lots of these events one subconscious protects us from goes back to events from childhood or to our late teens, that is a really good point. It's really good point. I love it because we are not the sum of what happened to us in the past. And I see people do that all the time. They'll say, well, you know, such and such happened to me as I, you know, when I was a kid, so what do you expect?  I mean, this happened to me when I was a kid. I grew up in a super poor neighborhood. So how could I ever do well? Well, I grew up in a super poor neighborhood. I grew up in a neighborhood where people selling drugs on the corner. You know, I was involved in a lot of stuff as a kid. And, you know, to say that's who I am as a grownup is absurd. That's who I was then because of my actions. And this is who I am now because of my actions. I know I've watched Jessica, I admire her a lot because she's done a lot and accomplished a lot. And she didn't come into this with tons of experience. She didn't come into this with tons of confidence. You know, it was just the opposite for her too. But she's achieved these things. And she has obstacles all the time. And she has stuff fail. And I have stuff fail. And it doesn't matter because we know that if we keep putting forth effort, we keep working. Like this coaching call right here, every Friday this coaching call, and I've missed very few in the past, I think what, three years Jessica? It's going on a good three years now. Going on three years of doing this call. And guess what guys, there are days when I don't feel motivated to do this call. I say, oh, I'll do this call, I'll do this call. But you know what? If you push through and you keep doing it and keep doing it and keep doing it, after a while, guess what? You get results. So I hope I've explained this motivation thing to you a little bit. Jessica, do we have some free links where they can get some free stuff? I've got a course I think I could give you guys. I have a free e-commerce course. I don't know if you've got any other links for training. Maybe my art of e-commerce success guys, if you wanna join my Facebook group, if you're not in it, I highly suggest you going there. She just put up the link here for my free e-commerce course. Now, if you're watching this on YouTube, you'll look down in the description and you will find links down there. And Jessica, that's where we can put links, by the way. Not in the chat section, but it's in the description. You'll find stuff down there guys. If you're curious about this microphone, this backdrop, any lighting, any cameras, anything I'm using, I also have links down there for, and I keep looking down here, I know you guys are actually here. I have links down there for Amazon where you can find all this stuff. They are our affiliate links. Check those things out. She's also giving you a subscription link here to the channel, it's bit.ly forward slash yt-jrf, okay? So that is the subscription link to my YouTube channel. I highly recommend you subscribe to the YouTube channel. I do five videos a week, Monday through Friday. On Saturdays, oftentimes I will post my coaching call, which this is a coaching call right now. However, we probably won't post this one because I already did it on YouTube. We don't wanna do it twice. But I really appreciate you guys showing up. Put it in your comments there. If you, somebody's saying, what kind of camera do I use? Let me get over here, okay, I can't. Is it David? Yeah, David, I've got on my screen that I'm recording with right now is a Logitech. And there is a link in the description below for this particular camera. However, I use a Nikon, is it D2,400 or 4,200? I have, Jessica? 3,200. 3,200, excuse me. There's a link down in there for that. Now that's the camera I normally use. I look a little dark here, but that's the camera I normally use. I'm looking a little dark. Yeah, she said, speak up a little bit. Yeah, that would be a really good recommended one for him. So that is in the description guys. You can check that out. Tell me in that comment section, there were got tons of comments here. Do you feel like you could be more motivated this year? Do you feel like you could do more this year? Do you understand that there's a difference in motivation and success and motivation does not come before success. It never has come before success. Now, I will tell you excitement comes before success. I mean, you get excited about doing something online. David says, yes, he understands it. People do get excited.  It always will. It always has, it always will. When the hard grind shows up, when you got to get up early, you got to stay up late, when you got to turn off the TV, you know, we've just got to have gotten to where we allow ourselves TV during dinner, because you really can't work and eat.  But, you know, we also are smart enough to know that we have things we want to accomplish. And as soon as we, you know, finish with those plates or whatever, we're going to get back to the brass nuts there. We're going to do the stuff we got to do. We're going to get on it. I hope you guys are going to do that. Put in the comments section if you are ready to succeed in 2020. Put in there, I will succeed in 2020. Just put in there, I will succeed in 2020. I want to see those comments pop up there. I will succeed in 2020. Because I'm going to do it. I'm going to put mine in. I can actually, I will, excuse me, I have a hard time spelling guys, in 2020, and you'll see my comment pop up there, because I will succeed in 2020. Will you succeed? Nerman says he will succeed. Michael says he will succeed in 2020. I love it guys. That's it. David, I will succeed in 2020. If you actually start saying this to yourself, it's going to make a huge difference. I'm telling you, it will, it will, it'll sound silly in the beginning. You'll be like, oh my, oh my, so. Ostra says she's ready.  Your mind will do the things that you need to do. It doesn't mean that money's just going to show up in your mailbox, though it may. What it means is your mind's going to start saying, well, I want to do things to get to this point. If you start telling yourself these things. We have affirmations like I've got a light over here and it's got a whole bunch of money on it. It says a month because I want to make that amount of money a month. Jessica has it on her computers. Put it on yours. Put on there, $10,000 a month. If you look at it every day, Bruce says I will succeed in 2020. Nerman says I will do the work required to succeed. That's even better. That's even better, right? I will do the work to succeed in 2020.  No, don't do that.  No, not before you've done it. Put up there what you're going to do because if you're 40 and you're broke and you live in America, put that up there. Put up there, I'm 40, I'm broken, I live in America. I mean, put the facts up there. Sometimes negative motivation will get you going. So what you want to do is you want to put up there your goal or what you're going to do and make yourself see it every single day. Guys, I really appreciate you listening. I'm going to go ahead and close this thing down. I've got so many things to close down because I've got YouTube going and I've got OBS going, which is the software thing. And I got to figure out how to close it all out. But I really appreciate you guys being here. We're going to head out to lunch. If you're not my friend on Facebook, friend me on Facebook because what we do on Friday is we go out to lunch. We try to find a cool place and have a nice lunch and we take pictures and we share our lunch with you but I'd love to share with you where we're going today but you won't know unless you friend me on Facebook. It's J.R. Fisher, look for me, friend me and I'll show you some really cool pictures of lunch. Jessica, do you have any parting words for everybody today? She's kind of across the studio from me today. So this is kind of a tough setup. She's got a quote. You ready guys? I guess excuse. Be stronger than your strongest excuse. I love that, okay? We all have excuses. Everyone else. Robert says, good session. Thanks, take care and enjoy your weekend. Thank you so much, Robert. Guys, I really appreciate you being here and I will see you in the art of e-commerce success throughout the week and on YouTube. 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Hey, Neil, come on up and join me. Hi, everyone. Thanks for sitting through with us with technical difficulties and all the rest. I guess part of doing community-driven work is rolling with the punches. My name is Lauren Ellen McCann. Two of those are my first name. And with me here is Neil Baer. Neil, you may recognize if you're very good at matching credits to faces as a well-renowned television writer and producer. He's been associated with such tiny projects as ER, Law and Order, SBU, Under the Dome, and he's one of the co-producers of If You Build It. So we don't have a ton of time, but I wanted to do a little bit of scene setting and then ask you a few questions if you're ready to roll. We'll also pitch this out to all of you who I can half see here in the mist. But to give just a little bit of preface, I'm a design justice worker. I'm someone who uses community-led processes as part of my work. So it's a complicated phrasing, but I want to start here because what we just saw in If You Build It is one method of community design. There's a myriad of them. And the thing about when we try to use language to encapsulate actual processes, not just nice, simple, easy jargon phrases, it's easy to lose the details, the principles, the methodologies. That's why when Catherine was up here earlier, contextualizing the work that Brazilian communities is doing in New America NYC, based here, right here in your city, she started with principles. Because it's from principles that we're able to direct the actions that we create. When you're looking at the landscape of community leadership in design, and as I think was outlined in a good detail here during the film, there's many different points in the process when you can include people in the actual creation of anything, whether it's a farmer's market, a piece of technology, a governance system, there's a wide variety of things. But there's also a variety of different points that people can be part of the process. And there's also a big difference between injecting people into a process and actually allowing for their vision and their creative confidence to develop. So I think I just wanted to contextualize that we saw here tonight was one method of many. What Brazilian communities is doing here in New York City is a very different method. What I do in Washington DC is also different. But this is also teaming me up to ask Neil. I'm so curious how you came into contact with this whole field of design, and in particular, as I understand it, Emily's work. Well, thank you all for coming, and thank you to Shelly and Larry who we thanked at the end of the film who funded their sitting back there, who funded this film and made it possible. So thank you, both Shelly and Larry. Because when you make documentaries, when you make documentaries, you're scraping just as you're making buildings like the kids and Emily and Matt did, it's, you know, piece by piece, brick by brick. So we're very grateful to them. I read a book from the TED Talks called Design Revolution on how to products that can change the world by Emily Piloton. And I read it all in one sitting, and I just was so inspired because there was a plethora of different projects that made a difference around the world using kind of very basic materials. For instance, like cutting tires in half and building playgrounds in Africa. Actually, Emily had done that, and using these structures to teach mathematics. So I was really struck and loved it, and I loved the design thinking element of it. And so I went to IDEO, which is an organization that designs products like the mouse, the swiffer, needless vaccines, and was really taken with the work they were doing, and they had worked with Emily as well, and she had worked with them. And they're based in California, Northern California, but they're also here. And the IDEO.org does the nonprofit side of design to address problems around the world. So I was very interested in that. And as a physician, as well as a writer and producer. And so I contacted Emily actually through Facebook. I Facebook friended her, and then I sent her a message and said, I have to meet you. And she lived in San Francisco then, and so we got together, and I flew up there from LA where I live. And she told me that she was about to embark on this crazy project of going to the poorest county in North Carolina, Bertie County, to work with her boyfriend, Matt, to teach design to these kids that Chip Zollinger had found them and heard about the work. And then, of course, as you saw in the film, Chip was fired soon after they got there. And that's the struggle of making a documentary. We thought, well, there's no documentary now because Chip was fired about a month into making the film, but then Matt and Emily decided to stay and then the film came into being. So it was just sort of my, through my intention to get to know Emily and social media made it happen that I was able to do it. And I just, when I met her, and as you can tell as a filmmaker, you can tell when people, both when I work with actors and when I do documentaries, that some people just have these personalities and some of the kids do, of course, as well, and we feature them, that they're very cinematic. And Emily is certainly really cinematic and emotional and thoughtful. And I just knew meeting her that she would make a great subject. And though you're just, you also go there with hopes that it'll work because you just never know for sure. So that's how it all got started. And then the first place we went to was the, I went to the MacArthur Foundation and got my first grant and then it built over time from Sundance. And we had so many funders by the end because it takes a lot of funders, as I said. Speaking of time, actually, one of the things I was very struck by in this film is the important insistence on the fact that the project isn't actually the farmers market. It's investing in the capabilities, the creativity, the confidence, the different skill-building of these individuals, these individual students, these individual people and all the people they come into contact with. And in order to do that, whether or not, I know the question of the salary was a big issue in this film, but whether or not there's salary, the ability to fund organizers, essentially. People who are often, and I think the preferred methodology is actually to fund people who are already in the community to invest in that work. But I appreciated that the film didn't back away from that point because what I see a lot in the innovation landscape in 2016 is a lot of people wanting things very quickly. They short-changed a lot of that relationship development and I really appreciated that that was very present here. But this teased me up to ask, this film was made in 2013. What's happened in the last three years? Lots. So Matt and Emily are no longer together and you can sort of see that the relationship is sort of starting to fray and it really took a toll on them and they were lovely to work with and we're still friends with both of them and Emily is still in Berkeley, just doing incredible work. She's at the magnet school, she's really focusing on girls and teaching girls like nine to 14 design and shop and building and they've built all kinds of structures in Berkeley and Matt was in Colorado and now he's teaching in Idaho and doing the same thing. So they are both committed to doing that. The kids, three of them went to college. None of them, as I recall, had families who went to college. So Koran is just finishing his engineering degree and he thanks Emily and Matt and Eric has finished his degree and the one who's most surprising is Stevie who went to college and is not a farmer. He wants to be an actor. But what have we done to pour Stevie? Stevie has been out to LA. No, but Stevie still works on his farm but Stevie has ambitions way beyond and so he also thanks, they all are indebted to Emily and Matt and you can see how school and teachers can make a difference. Jamisha went into the military, Cameron is an EMT. So they all say and it was just an experience that really changed their lives and they're in touch with the kids still and we're in touch. Christine, my partner on at O'Malley, my producing partners in touch with the kids all the time and when we have screenings in North Carolina or places where the kids always show up and their parents, it really had a profound impact. The school board was fired. But there was some issues with the school board and I like to think that and I know that the film had some impact. And where as we show where money goes and the guy Ron Wesson became an elected official and is still an elected official. So he's the one who said that there was only one grocery store and I think the other thing I wanna say is that what I love about the film is using this design thinking approach that Emily goes through where you start with research, ideation, design, prototype, redesigning it and building it. And so that works as Emily and Matt say in all realms of life really and you saw that the kids were taking online PE and that was really horrifying to us and that was going on and online everything, half the day, half the day spent with Matt and Emily, half the day, all of them stuck in that room. And what's really interesting to me is that that hasn't changed so much there because Emily and Matt were fired because they had built this, you can imagine the politics but it really did change the kids' lives and it's, to me, when Matt talks about Detroit and that it was top down and he devoted himself to building this house and giving it to a family but the family was not engaged at all in the making of that house, it wasn't their story as Matt says and to me this is my favorite part of the film but this is their story and this was Stevie, really Stevie who designed Stevie and CJ but Stevie designed the farmer's market that they actually chose so it came out of their story one of unemployment, lack of access to fresh fruits and vegetables and obesity and so I think that that has huge implications for schools and the way we deal with social policies and if you're interested there's a wonderful book called Change by Design by Tim Brown who is very influential on Emily's work and he's the head of IDEO and it looks at how to take a design thinking approach rather than this, we know what's best for your approach. Well and you actually brought up something that I found really challenging about the film so coming not necessarily from design thinking but akin field design justice which actually predates design thinking and many of the people who developed design thinking were either influenced by it or sometimes just not even aware that this tradition had existed. Depending on how you trace it, there's methodologies that started in the 1960s of this very similar format also called co-design and a big tenet of design justice is looking at the entire context of creation and I think the Detroit scene that you brought up I found really difficult because it didn't address any of the structural racism or classism involved in that kind of house desecration and I know when you're working with a film you have limited narratives available to you but I did watch the engagement with the school board and some of the lack of transparency there and seeing that thinking filtering in but I was just wondering since you lifted up the scene in particular how that registers for you. In terms of how we presented it or because I'm really interested in the notion of and there's such huge debate about aid, particularly foreign aid and this notion of top down versus bottom up and so I think the point that Matt was making was that there needs to be engagement that when it's very sort of almost patronizing or we're telling you what's best for you and we're going to give you something and you should appreciate it. You know I don't know actually we I don't know what happened to the house and I don't think that people were coming into the house and just tearing out things to use but I think the point we were trying to make was that when you don't engage people at the beginning and they're telling them what's best for them and this can be, there's a really wonderful book by Molly Melching and she has an organization called Tostan, T-O-S-T-A-N and I've been very influenced by them too which she calls herself a social norm entrepreneur where she gathers women in Senegal to talk about female genital cutting and instead of saying this is bad or you shouldn't do it she just works as a moderator to let people tell their stories and decide what works for them and this has had a huge impact across Senegal, Ethiopia and Somalia. The point being is that people find their way through their own stories and not being told what to do. Yes they need aid, they need support but if you're going to do it in a way that is we know best which we tend to do with aid so that it's often that this is problematic and so it's at least a way of kind of bringing together not always harmoniously people to struggle with their own problems and as Matt said that this was the kid's story, this was the story or Emily says it at the end too if it had been in a city, maybe an urban area but they wouldn't have done a farmer's market they would have whatever the story was and I think that that's an approach but certainly what you say in terms of building for justice is one has to recognize all of the barriers be it immigration issues or race, class, LGBT all the things that we think about or I think about in the work I do as a physician in designing projects for global health I think apply to what you're saying and I think has to be stated outwardly when you're taking on these projects. Absolutely and I really appreciate the way in which you were framing agency as part of this and these different design methods that attempt to allow communities to harness their own self-determination and based on the varieties of different contexts and the complexity of power that are present in these spaces. And it's messy, it's much easier to say hey I know what's best for you and don't do this and just you do that and we're gonna give you this. And then it's not, there's no ownership so we are doing actually, knock on wood, we have a TV series based on the film and we're doing it, we're hoping to do it soon and it's just on a larger scale we go into a city and the city, you know the neighborhood associations the people who are leaders the you know when they're bringing people together you know to talk about the problems will decide what they need based on their story and then we will bring in designers, architects and social entrepreneurs and they'll fight it out because you know it'll be like you know as you saw in the film it's not just one way to do something and that's, but I think it has more power to succeed if people are invested and there's been a lot of academic work in these areas certainly about aid as well. I think there's also been a lot in the world of teaching I mean the world of public theory and popular education is very much steeped in this and also one of the things I saw echoed in the design thinking approach from popular education is the use of arts and different communication styles as part of that and it's also a big motivator one of my favorite examples of community leadership and design is the work of the Prometheus radio project which Prometheus would be called by a community that wanted to establish their own communications network to work with different community members there to get a radio tower up and running in the course of a three day period including a full programming lineup and support to keep the programs on the air for months and years afterward and they have a number of different success stories and different communities there but I don't see a lot of mainstream attention to these very process informed projects. Well you know I think that's what's really interesting an interesting kind of movement across the United States and you'll see it sort of popping up now more and more which is on a national level things are pretty crazy and screwed up. You have to go into communities and when you go into communities you see all kinds of amazing things like in I think it was I just read and I wanna say it was in Chattanooga but it was in Tennessee where they had some problems with roads and driving and people getting to places and so the city itself took upon itself to do the surveys and leaders and citizens and they got together and they established bike lanes and new parks and kind of rethought the way people drove through the city and changed the city in a profound way and so I think we're seeing across the US really important things happening at the town level and the city level but when we start to get to the state and national level things seem to be not seems things are in terrible disarray and I don't know what the solution to that is but I do think that there is hope that people at the local level are really just taking it upon themselves to say we have these problems and we need to find solutions and we can't wait for the feds to come in even though we need the feds to supply the often the funding. I mean I'm pretty biased because I'm from a community like the one pictured in the film and I'm a first generation college student so I think I've grown up in context where I see people building from their own context with them solved all the time. I really take your point that it's about the perspective that we're looking at for this work whether we're not gonna find it. We have very limited time but we've got time for two questions if folks wanna pop up, yeah. Hold on one second, just give me one second. I'd like to ask about what sort of correlation there is between this design initiative and the way in which it functions from ground up and the documentary film making process in which you are gathering information hopefully ground up and whether you think that there is in documentary film making now a shift away from that process and if that could be damaging to the whole field of documentary, no pressure. No, that's a really interesting question as I can think of a film that was nominated for an Oscar and didn't win this year that had some issues. That's a really complicated question. What's really interesting about documentaries is that they can be advocacy films or they can be films that kind of just unspool the story. So yes, and I always say we're never objective in the way that wherever we put the camera is where we put the camera even though we had Jamisha shooting and there's a lot of her footage in here as well so it was that kind of approach where we actually have the student working with us and her footage is there. But whatever your intent is I think you were speaking of that is really important. If your intent is to change social policy you might make a different kind of film and it might get you into trouble when you're really focused for a good cause and a good effect and a good impact but things might get shifted a little bit. So even for instance, Katie Couric's recent documentary comes to mind is another one where it was on gun control and they did say that they kind of played with the pauses and things to intensify the drama. So you have to be really kind of open about and aware of what your intent is and very careful and when you start to fiddle with things and add lines and shoot stuff later and nothing is objective. There's no reality television and I'm not talking about the Kardashians but even any kind of reality cooking show, whatever things are just scripted and so nothing is going to be objective but you try to let the story unfold. And what I love about our film is that we didn't know what the outcome would be because we kept thinking they're going to quit and we've spent all this money, we won't have a film and that's the risk you take. So there's all kinds of pressures on the documentary filmmaker as well because you're putting in a lot of money and you're raising money, you have funders, investors so you want to make a good film, you want it to be dramatic but sometimes it just can't be. We were, I hate to say it, we were lucky that Chip left and that Emily and Matt were fired in that sense that it made it a more dramatic film but who knows what any other outcomes would be but I think you have to be very careful about what your intent is because if your intent is to be an advocate, I mean I'm an advocate for changing education but you have to be very careful to let the story speak and not let your own wishes speak because then you can get into trouble and then things start to happen with films and then people start writing letters saying what you did is not correct and when you have a cause and that happens and it's not easy because you want to make a, in order for a film to be successful it has to be dramatic in some way, it has to be moving and so you have to have all of these external pressures on you to kind of sometimes push it in that direction so that's always something that at least I feel you have to be aware of and you have to be willing to say, you know, we might have to walk away from this, we might have to just let it go because there won't be a story. We were fortunate that there was a story and as I said at the very beginning you also select people who you think just who are interesting and Emily is just an interesting person she's really fun to be with, she's super smart, she has great ideas and I thought you know, no matter what happens she's so interesting that I want to know about what design thinking is I want to know what these things are so you know, we're gonna run with it. Thank you, we have time for one more. Good evening. First, thank you both so much and thank you to the filmmakers and to New America. I want to add one thing and then ask the question thing I would also humbly like to submit is that one of the other challenges is to make a film that is not accusatory nor didactic and at the same time doesn't shy away from whatever the issues that you are trying to depict on the screen which is a tall order for documentary filmmakers. With respect to this particular film and how you framed what I like to call the NGO approach which is to parachute into an area and then determine from their perspective what's best for the area not including the stakeholders. This particular film seems to me to be on various levels a civic engagement piece, a advocacy piece and at the same time I'm questioning how do you create a sustained engagement so that when the filmmakers, when the film is finished that what it has been able to depict continues to create an environment of sustainability, of empowerment and allowing those communities to give license to others to take the same type of initiative signs the cameras. That's a great question. So we keep in touch with the kids and follow the kids and now with Facebook and our website we can do that and then we developed a social networking platform called Action Lab.  So if you want literally to build a farmer's market in your community we tell you how to do that and how to get pro bono support from various architectural organizations. And so we've done it with another book that I worked on about soda politics and also for a museum exhibit and so we're trying to build that. So we're really interested in the after effect that what we call bridging the gap for the audience first we'll talk about the audience for the audience bridging the gap between inspiration and action so that when you see this and you say oh I wanna have a farmer's market or I wanna get EBT food stamps in my farmer's market but I don't know how to do that. Well people have done it and we can tell you how to do it and so you can click through actionlab.org and see how to do that. So that's one thing we've tried to do is give people actionable steps they can take when they're inspired. For the community it's talking about showing the film the film's been used a lot to like it was recently used in Gary, Indiana we know to build support for farmers markets and for a farmers market there and in numbers of places so it's shown often as a fundraiser to start farmers markets. In the community it's staying in touch with the kids. One thing we do that we and supporting Stevie as he sort of figures out if he wants to become a filmmaker or not. So we're around Stevie but what we typically do I also work with an organization called Venice Arts which is a wonderful organization in Los Angeles where we teach filmmaking to kids and so when we were in Mozambique for instance a couple years ago we made a film we taught a kid it's called Home is Where You Find It we taught a kid how to shoot and he was a young man whose parents died of AIDS and he was looking for a family because there's no foster care or orphanages in Mozambique and if you don't have an extended family you live on the street. So we gave him the camera and he taught him and he found someone to live with and we taught the kids photography and their photographs are in the film because we feel that it's also very important that's why we gave Jamisha the camera that we have a certain perspective but she'll get access in ways that we don't. So we give that training to the students who are interested and then when we go to different places both in the US and around the world we leave a little institute that we fund to continue teaching kids or mothers in Cape Town with HIV we did a project with them and taught them photography and we try to not recreate from the very beginning we always partner so we partner with an organization called Mothers to Mothers which teaches women with HIV how to prevent transmission to their babies and they teach other women and we taught women in that organization photography and then we sent two of them to photography school in Cape Town so we try to and I think it's really important keep something going and we also work with local photographers as well when we do our photography project so that there's somebody there who then can be paid and then we have to fundraise for that so there are a number of ways that we try to do that to keep things going so that it's not just for us like oh we wanna make a great film and thank you very much and goodbye but and it's challenging because it's often not clear what one can do and you don't wanna leave you don't wanna do something that's gonna cause problems the film in some ways when you make a film it's always an advocacy film because you're choosing the subject that you choose like when I do my dramatic shows I've never pretended to be objective it's me so that's why I chose to do teen access to abortion or vaccinations or whatever because of my own experience as a physician so I try to be open about that but I try to present the different sides and not make in this case in this film the school board looked too, I mean it was hard because they were just so intransigent about everything but it's always about power but something again you have to be really careful about because it's really easy to portray people as evil or good and you just, we didn't have access really to this, we wanted to have the school board and they didn't want to be involved and so I guess we could have said we tried to get the school board to talk on camera but then we didn't want it to feel like a news piece so you're always like struggling and that's always the struggle of the film and then when you make your next one you should kind of hopefully learn from whatever problems you had how to make it better the next time but that was a great question, thanks in terms of editing, well that's what you do you go through so many iterations just like in design thinking this what you see was a long process it was much longer probably twice as long you have to whittle out you have to decide what students to focus on so you're making decisions all the time in making this film there are a couple students you see a little bit but you don't see them very much because they dropped out or they just weren't there very much and that's the editing and so you have to decide but you try not to fake things or at least we try not to make things happen that didn't really happen or have lines later that are added because we actually need to I'm sorry to end this line of conversation but we do need to draw to a close we'll have a little bit of time for conversational lobby and I'm sorry to talk over you but I do think this is a great point to kind of let us back out into the world on which is even as we think about building with communities instead of just for them we ourselves are actors that are engaged in this process and I think that statement that you just made about the process of making the films itself and design thinking design justice iterative process is one of the most important things we can think about as individual creators and people in communities together so thank you so much for your time thank you for coming thank you New America


s, so I'm happy that it's now. I enjoyed our conversation. We had the other day and I look forward to continue working with you. Same here, thank you. Patricia Skinner. Patricia Maynard and Trudy, I was a little jealous actually. I was sitting right next door to them and all I heard was laughter and I felt Trudy that I got a little shortchanged in that, but I'm sure we have plenty of laughs to come. Very nice to meet you and just another warm welcome to you. Thank you. Thank you. And Commissioner Hill. Madam Chair, I already welcomed her personally, looking forward to working with her moving forward. So welcome aboard. Thank you. And I knew you all had that chance, but I just thought it was be nice for Trudy to hear this and it's being recorded, Trudy. Thank you. The benefits of working with the FGC. So thank you, welcome aboard. Thank you. Thank you all. Missures, do we have anything else for today? All right, then it's 104. May I have a motion to adjourn? And I think we reconvene virtually as trainees with the GLI, so work that too. At 3, 2 p.m., is that right, Karen? 2 p.m. All right, move to adjourn. Thank you. Second. Commissioner O'Brien. Aye. Commissioner Hill. Aye. Commissioner Skinner. Aye. Commissioner Maynard. Aye. I vote yes, 5-0. Thanks, everybody. And thanks to the entire team.


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I'm moving on to business news. Vice-President Yemi Osibajo has disclosed that the President Muhammad Buhari's lead government is disposed to tackling the current inflation and other fuel security challenges in the country. Osibajo made the disclosure on Tuesday while speaking virtually at the Preparatory Meeting of the United Nations Food Systems Summit 2021. Ms. Osibajo stressed the government's commitment to addressing the factors of food insecurity, such as food inflation, changing consumption patterns, and climate change, among others. He noted that the specific aim of the recently launched national poverty reduction with gross strategy was to address hunger, malnutrition, and poverty as part of the present administration's target of little 100 million Nigerians out of poverty within a decade. He explained that at the heart of Nigeria's posed COVID-19 response is the economic sustainability plan, adding that the plan has a major component, which is the agriculture for food and jobs program AFJP, which seeks to leverage unsuitable technologies to build a resilient food system for Nigeria.


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