Hi everyone, I'm Joe for Jaspy's CaseBreaks.com. We finally got that football mixer done. Jaspy's 19 box sensational football mixer with that Kyler Murray that we're giving away at the very end of this break to one lucky person. This also unlocks that break credit promo that way, the mixer break credit promo. So we'll do that in a separate video after this. There's the Kyler Murray right here and here's all the boxes involved in the break. Some pretty solid stuff. And here are the people in the break. Now whether you bought a spot straight up or whether you won spots in our mini breaks, we appreciate it. Now however you got in, we appreciate that. All 32 teams are in. Let's roll it, let's randomize it three and a four seven times for each list. One, two, three, four, five, six, and seventh and final time. After seven times, we've got Adam down to Daniel. Three and a four seven times for the teams. Two, three, four. And good luck, seventh and final time. After seven, we've got Tennessee down to the Buffalo Bills, Buffalo. All right, Adam, you have the Tennessee Titans Leonard with the Chiefs, Zach with the Bengals, JC with the Panthers. Joseph with the Patriots, Rich with the Las Vegas Raiders, you got my Raiders. Steve Burch with the Broncos, Travis with the Seahawks. Chris with the Colts, Patrick with the Giants. Adam with the Falcons, Jared with the Cowboys. Daniel with the Texans, Jeremy with the Saints. Jim with the Cardinals. Chris with the Vikings, Spiro with the Bucks. Adam with the Lions, Jim Moran with the Steelers. JC, you got the Bears. Richard with the Browns. Josh with the Ravens. Adam with the Redskins. Martin with the Chargers. Josh with the Eagles and the Dolphins. Karen with the Jaguars. Daniel with the Niners. Ryan H with the Jets. Colton Carver with the Packers. David Baker with the Rams. Daniel with the Buffalo Bills. So I'm gonna pause the video, put a snack on some food and when we come back, we'll see if there's any trades and then we'll have the break. Oh, you just keep it running? We'll just keep it running then. Zoomed in a little bit. All right, so actually Nick will pack stacking as I step away for just a few minutes. So we'll have a little bit of an extended trade window. All right, we've got a lot of trade offers too. Jets are for trade chargers, bills for raiders, jets for bucks, lions or falcons for jets. Bills, jets, vangals, jets, raiders, bucks up for trade, Texans raiders, Titans, lions, falcons for jets. Titans, lions or falcons for jets. Sorry, I misread that. Hopefully everyone's watching live so they don't miss their trade windows. There you go, a lot of trade offers. All right, fine, I'm good. Raiders for jets, confirmed. Okay, all right, Las Vegas for New York, jets confirmed. So let's pull those names out there. So, Ryan, you're now in the raiders spot. Put a T next to there for trades so we can monitor who draws first blood in that trade. We'll put a T next to there for trade for the jets as well. So good deal, folks. Let's close up the trade window, let's roll. TWC trade window closed, let's print, let's rip. And we'll do an autograph recap at the end right here. This is the Elite Packs. And our autograph is Calvin Munson. Everyone knows where Calvin Munson goes. We're gonna set those aside separate. We'll look those up at the end of the break to figure out where they go. All right, there's the final printout right there as well. All right, good luck, everybody. I'm really trying to keep my eye out for, this is 2017, is Patrick Mahomes rookie cards is really the big thing I wanna try to spot because even raw of Patrick Mahomes rookie card is Texas Tech Gear will go for a lot and grades out nicely even more than that. We got Charles Walker. Charles Walker, Texas A&M, Texas Tech. And we've got Corey Smith from Ohio State with Patrick Mahomes right here. Nice, that's for the Chiefs. Leonard Jacob, nice rookie Patrick Mahomes. We've got Damonte Kazee, so Logan. All right, looks like that is that. Oh, and here is the, this is what we're giving away at the end. So if you got randomized what you perceive as a bad team or by the end of the break, you're like, man, I'm not gonna get a lot of hits, huh? Still have a shot at this. This will make up for everything. Here's some old prominence right here. And we've got 003 out of 188 rookie field plates, Cornelius Caradine, Niners. That's gonna go to Daniel. We've got Alec Goldblum, treated in 99. And an autograph, Eminence Signatures. Jeremy Curley, 581 out of 9 at 99. Jets, that is four. Rich, who draws first blood in that Jets Raiders trade. LaShaw McCoy to 199, and Gino Smith, another jet. There's a big logo right there and his autograph, 25 out of 100. We've got some playbook. This is the, when you saw in the picture, the big white box, the playbook packs. Oh, and then that stack too. These were those playbook hanger packs, cello packs, whatever you wanna call them. I don't even know where Gino Smith is at at the moment. No, Logan, schedule is not busy after this. There is nothing sold out after this. We're trying to see, we're awfully close to knocking out the baseball mixer, Logan, if you wanna help us out with that. There's Alshon Jeffery, X's and O's Relic for the Eagles. That'll be for Josh Coppler, and the Fly Eagles Fly. Is Gino not still with the Seahawks? Martin's asking, I don't know. Is he backing up out there? You know, there's Earl Thomas that was flipped around. Not sure why, possibly a variation. Let's leave that up just in case. The next sub is fairly sure that he's Russell Wilson's backup. There's Russell Wilson right there. Eugene Cyril Gino, Smith the third, is an American football quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks, according to Wikipedia. I'm gonna go, yeah, he was last for the Jets in 2016, then went Giants, Chargers, and then Seahawks. I feel like 2015 was the season where Gino Smith, I think, ended the 2014 season somewhat decently, and then I think there was little excitement in the air. And then August 2015 rolled around, and Gino Smith was involved in an altercation with a defensive end, I.K. and a Kapali, where Smith suffered a fractured jaw after I.K. punched him in the face, and then he was out six to 10 weeks. I.K. was subsequently released, and then that was the Ryan Fitzpatrick era. But I feel like that derailed his sort of, kind of interrupted that. Some prism draft, there's some field access, here's some black gold, and Adam Cupperman, Jets fans, and we have so many great QB eras to remember. As a Raiders fan, I do too. Green is not numbered, those purples aren't numbered, but they will ship. And Antoine Brooks Jr., four out of seven will definitely ship. Nice gold cracked ice. I'm gonna separate these college players, you guys. And we'll look these up. We'll go by the checklist. If there's no checklist, then we'll go by the team they're currently on. If they're no longer on a team, the last pro team they were associated with are usual non-pro uniform rules. There is another patch of Mahomes. There you go. This is a 2020 prism draft, by the way. Same with the same rules for that Elite box back there. I don't think that Elite actually has a checklist. Field access. I almost missed that autograph, there's Charles Sims. There you go. Buck and Ears running back, going to Spiro. There you go, Spiro. Another autograph, we got CJ Spiller, Saints. That's gonna be Jeremy. And Todd Gurley, rookie auto. Not bad. David Baker with Todd Gurley, rookie autograph. Didn't he try to trade, didn't he try to trade the Rams? Yeah, anyone want Rams, David was saying earlier. This is 63 out of 99. He is with the Hawks now, he's back in Georgia, I think. Try to trade, couldn't trade Mojo. Maybe he reestablishes his career out there. Eli Harold, Niners, that'll be for Daniel. Antoine Brooks Jr. is a Pittsburgh Steeler. Jim Moran with the Steelers, there you go Jim. Almost a train whistle, out of fives and under, get the train whistle, Jim. Dolphins. We got Dolphins, Calvin Munson. Is he still active? Yeah. Dolphins. That will be for Josh Kotler. And Eagles just signed Charles Walker, that's the team he's currently on. Philadelphia, Josh Kotler as well. Arrested for firing shots, Corey Smith. Last associated with the Bengals, that doesn't surprise me. Cincinnati Bengals, Zach Paul. And the Falcons for DeMonte Kazee, Adam Kuperman. Packsack. Ooh, nice, we'll play Who Am I with that helmet. Thank you, Nick. All right. Good, so this mixer should be kind of a breeze, ladies and gentlemen. There's Ryan Matthews to 225. So now that we saved some time on that football mixer, thanks to Nick, folks, we got a baseball mixer we can do tonight too. So if you go to jaspeaskasebrakes.com, we just need to do, and it looks like spots are moving too, we just need to do two quick mini breaks. The series one on jaspeaskasebrakes.com and that one autographed baseball, that leaf autographed baseball, those two fill up the mixer and we can do another one of those. There's Gold Prospecting, Jordan Howard to 99. And we'll be doing a, here actually let me just drop a little quick little schedule here. So right now NFL mixer. Then mixer promo randomizer will be after that. Then to be determined. All right, so there you go. Golden Prospects, Robert Medici. 56 out of 99 for Jim Moran and the Cardinals. Gold Prospecting, Moritz Boringer to 199. That'll be for the Vikings, Chris Masters. We've got a little top rank boxing here. Gold Rush Jerome Bettis to 225. I have no idea who these boxers are. We've got Old Burnsey for the United States from the United States going against Yanong from, I'm not sure where he's from. Philippines maybe? There is Adrian, I know nothing about boxing. All right, anybody involved? 225 Adrian Pearson, I like watching it I guess. I knew these people were maybe. I don't think it's a big star match up here. There's Laquan Treadwell for the Vikings, AP and Laquan Treadwell both going to Chris Masters. There's Connor Cook. Wow, Nike Swoosh, Connor Cook. Two out of two. Silver Swoosh against the black, the silver and black, gold, ink autograph for the Las Vegas Raiders, Ryan Herald. Got the Raiders in a trade. All aboard the Big Hit Express. Woo-hoo! Now I wonder, not sure how many Raiders fans are gonna be picking these up, but I'm pretty sure he went to Michigan State. So maybe this might be something that some college kids, college fans of Connor Cook might be interested in that. People love those Nike Swooshes anyway, so the Swoosh alone may give it some pretty strong value. Hall of Fame Symbols Emmett Smith goes to the Cowboys. It's for Jared, and the Warn Moon to 15. We'll go to the Houston Oilers, and the Houston Oilers stuff goes to the Titans, Adam Coverman. All right, we've got some rookies and stars. We've got Raquel Armstead to 99. Josh Allen, big time relic to 100. He's got some interesting weapons on that team now. Buffalo! Daniel with the Bills. Vivante Adams to 99. Airborne Drew Brees. We've got Cross Training, Damien Harris to 199 for the Patriots, that'll be for Joseph L. Ranwer. And we've got Joanne Winfrey, 73 out of 75. Going to the Broncos, Steve Birch. And the Broncos. And there's Alexander Madison. Jersey and Autograph, 50 out of 99. So with Dalvin Cook wanting out, Alexander Madison's stock goes up, right? Chris Masters with the Vikings. Does Dalvin Cook still want out? I'm assuming he does. There's Stellar Rookies to 75. Josh Jacobs for the Raiders. All right, that was a box of rookies and stars. All right, there's some Crown Royale. There is some Contenders. There's Maurice Canada for the Ravens. It'll be for Josh and the Ravens. Tyler Irving, Daniel and the Texans. Some of those reason no Deionary Hopkins on the Texans anymore. So some pass catchers are gonna have to step up for Deshaun Watson. We've got Rookie Ticket Autograph, Malik Jefferson. Bangles, that'll be for Zach Hall. There's a season ticket patch from Mahomes. I feel like Mahomes is one of those guys. This is 2018 Contenders. Like, his stuff will still carry value no matter what year it is. I mean, he was what, Offensive Rookie of the Year, right? And then MVP. No, maybe, no, he actually sat out his. So he was what, MVP, his second year. And then Super Bowl, his third year. And Super Bowl MVP, that's not bad. Doran's Armstrong Jr., it's a good start to his career. Jared with the Cowboys. There's Josh Rose, an on-card rookie ticket autograph. Where's he gonna go? I feel like someone has to really commit to Josh Rose and give him a shot. I feel like we don't, we can't really judge his career. Jim Moran with the Cardinals. I feel like he can't really judge his career completely yet. Rich says Walmart. He just didn't get a shot. He got drafted to a bad team, poor coaching. And then they got a new coach. The new coach wants his own guy. So there goes Josh Rosen. He gets chipped off to Miami. Miami doesn't really want him. They're looking to tank. They traded away everybody. And they ended up with Tua, that's their guy. There's Avante Maddox to 99 for the Eagles, Josh. So Josh Rosen unwanted again. But where does he go? Maybe he settles in somewhere. He's not gonna be a backup, right? 10 out of 75, Alvin Camara.  I wasn't drafted that high for nothing. I've heard people say, or Sam Hubbard, Patriots would be a good fit, but it's doubtful that the Dolphins are gonna trade a quarterback within the division. There's the Bengals, Zach Paul. I guess unless Rosen maybe, I don't know, gets released or becomes a unrestricted free agent somehow, I'm not sure what his contract situation is, but. All right, this is 2019, Donner's Optic Football. Good luck, and we got Miles Sanders. Green Velocity? Not number, it's pretty cool though. For a second I thought those greens are out of fives, but cool parallel though. That goes to Josh and the Eagles. Mahomes, insert. That's Kyler Murray. We're giving away a Kyler Murray card at the end of this. Got Taylor Rapp, Clayton Thorson, hollow. Trace McSorley, let's take all those parallels out there. Darnell Savage, Tyreek Hill, hollow, and Travis Homer. Let's stay with that optic theme here. All right, so we've got 2017. There's Christian McCaffrey, raided rookie. Is that hollow? No, just a base Christian McCaffrey. Still pretty nice though. Panthers JC.  Jeremy McNichols, the rookies. Dee Dee Westbrook. DeSean Kaiser. Beast Mode, Marshawn Lynch. There's Daven Cook, raided rookie. It's also a base, not a hollow. Cortland Sutton, rookie threads. Relic for the Broncos, that's going to be Steve Birch. And we've got Doris Fountain of Youth. Raided rookie, on-card auto for the Blue Horseshoes. That'll be for Chris Freeze and the Colts. Got Josh Allen raided rookie, Malik Jefferson, bronze. Baker Mayfield raided rookie, bronze as well. And Anthony Miller raided rookie, hollow. Couple nice cards here, Ronald Jones' second as well. Nice Baker Mayfield raided rookie, Browns. Richard Johansson with the Browns. So it'll be interesting to see how Baker bounces back this season. Down to some of the good stuff here. Let's grab some of this Limited. Let's grab some of this Playbook. We've got some Sig series. We've got some Origins. And we've got, this might be some Optic Choice. And some Leaf right here. All right, we've got from Leaf Metal Draft, Donovan Peoples-Jones, 47 out of 50. It's actually just, I don't know if there's a, he's on the Browns. I don't know if there's an official checklist for this. Groupraechecklist.com might have something. And that helmet right there is the, it's the last one. Ah, oh, Groupraechecklist does have a checklist. Thanks, groupraechecklist.com. We always default to the checklist first. All right, so yes, Donovan Peoples-Jones is a Cleveland Brown, Richard Johansson with Cleveland. James Robinson, 27 out of 35. Jacksonville Jaguars, that's gonna go to Karen. Karen on the board. We've got James Morgan, six out of 10. Nice little number on that, James Morgan. Jets, that will be for Rich. Cam Akers, is he a Ram? Or an Eagle, 16 out of 20. Still earning this, hey, he's a Ram. That goes to David Baker. This is a possible Todd Gurley replacement right here. So you got Gurley, and you got his possible replacement. Cam Akers, people are saying he's probably better than Daryl Henderson. Touchdown Kings, Deandre Swift. That's a Detroit Lion, that's nine out of 50 for Adam Cupperman in Detroit. Nice wave pattern there. Samaj P. Ryan's brother, LaMichael P. Ryan. 21 out of 35. That will be for the Jets, Rich with the Jets. Van Jefferson, one out of four. Van Jefferson is also a Ram. Trying to trade, no one wanted a mojo. Trying to trade, couldn't trade mojo. One out of four, nice, I guess, what does Leaf call it? Penini calls it cracked ice. I think Topps calls it atomic. Cracked atomic. David, all aboard the Big Hit Express. Woo-hoo! So he's a wide receiver, so I got the Brandon Cooke's replacement. And lastly, there's Kelly Bryant, two out of 15. Oh, we got a couple in case right here too. Kelly Bryant is an undrafted free agent. He's unsigned, according to the checklist. Will we default to our non-pro uniform rules? Is he actually signed to somebody? He has not. Wow, this is harsh. Rubbingtherock.com, a month ago, so this fan-sided article says, headline, former Tiger Kelly Bryant was never gonna be an NFL QB. No one should be surprised that former Clemson football quarterback Kelly Bryant has not signed a contract with an NFL team. I don't know, maybe he'll prove that right or wrong. This will be part of a randomizer at the end, so the name on top will get the Kyler Murray, the second name will get the Kelly Bryant autograph. Maybe he makes something of himself, proves that other guy wrong. J.J. Taylor, production-proof autograph. Nice, one of one. That's pretty cool. They got him encased up as well. J.J. Taylor is a New England patriot, and that will be for Joseph Elran Wurt. And there's Jerry Judy, nice. Prismatic purple Jerry Judy, one of one. Nice, cowboys, right? Broncos. Who the cowboys about? Some Broncos got Jerry Judy. That's right, Steve Birch with Denver. Hopefully Jerry Judy will not haunt the Raiders for the next 10 years. All right, let's get into some limited football. We've got Nick Bosa, big rookie phenom's relic, one, two, three out of 199. That'll be for Daniel and the Niners. There's Patrick Mahomes to 49. 2019 limited football. We've got Foster Moreau, 13 out of 49. Nice little season last year for the Raiders. That goes to Ryan Harold. We've got Chase Winovich, eight out of 49. Patriots, Joseph Elran Wurt. Should we go Origins? Should we go Playbook? Let's go Playbook. That's Kurt Warner. 34 out of 60, fabled fabric for the Rams. Another Ram, nobody wanted him. Sterling Shepherd, 13 out of 99. That's a catch. Hot routes for the Giants, Patrick K. And we've got 900 points. Wow. So here's what we'll do. We'll get, I guess we'll just go in the order that they were pulled. Second name, we'll get that. Third name, we'll get any and all points, 900 points. That's a lot. And then we've got AJ Brown, 115 out of 175. Jersey and autograph. Nice. No, I do. All right, some old 2016 signature series. Nate Orcher, Cleveland Browns. Richard Johansson. We've got Elusive Ink, Delvin Bro, 13 out of 50. That is for Jeremy S. and the Saints. The redemption is Tyler Irving. Now I know that's expired, Texans. That will be Daniel. But Panini will either redeem that for you or they'll give you the option of accepting some points in return. All right, and for the Jags, we've got Chris Smith. Jaguars, Karen with the Jags. Let's go with some origins here. Deshaun Watson. We've got Annie Dalton to 175. Bengals, LB for Zach. Joey Bosa to 299. And we've got Karrion Johnson. Karrion, my wayward son. Coming into focus, there we go. That is the Detroit Lions. That will be for Adam Cupperman in the Lions. There you go. We've got Jamon Moore. Two color patch and autograph. 98 out of 99. Packers, Colton. Josh Rosen origins to 99. Jim Moran in the Cardinals. And Travis Kelsey based card in the back right there. All right, what do we have here? Devonte Booker. We got Devonta Freeman to 25. Another redemption. We got Jake Winicky, 23 out of 99. Hollow autograph for the Vikings. That's gonna go to Chris Masters. Malik Jefferson and Shaquem Griffin. All right, and the redemption is Saquon Barkley. Wow, it just expired on the 19th of this month. Just a few days ago. They better have this for you. Rookie elite series autographs, Purple Stars. Saquon Barkley for the New York football giants, Patrick Katzy. I'm almost certain that they will. You can probably just scratch that off, put it right into the system, and it better go through. If not yell at them. Be like, come on. There you have it. Nice one, Patrick. And that's it, ladies and gentlemen. We got one more helmet to do. That's the last one. Actually use this camera right here. So we got Gold Rush, full-size helmet, specialty edition, one autograph, full-size helmet, specialty football, one per box. So maybe different colors and whatnot. If it happens to be a college helmet, again, we'll use our, this one doesn't have a checklist, so we'll use our non-pro uniform rules. It'll go to the team they're currently on, if they're active, or the team they played for the longest if they're inactive. Let me write a name on here. Let's play a little round of who am I. Put your thinking caps on, folks. I am a retired quarterback, born in Cincinnati, Ohio, 6'3", 197, played for one team my entire career, and a two-time Super Bowl champ, one-time Super Bowl MVP, six-time pro bowler, an NFL Man of the Year Award winner, a passing touchdowns leader, and a four-time NFL passer rating leader. Part of this team's ring of honor, part of the pro football hall of fame, college football hall of fame, 153 touchdowns in my entire career, 22,700 yards passing, 83.4 career passer rating. I'm part of the 19, this is gonna maybe kind of give it away, 1970s all decade team, part of the NFL 100th anniversary all-time team. I won the Heisman in the early 60s while playing for Navy. Got the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2018. The Navy should give it away. Yeah, there we go, Justin Bible, Kevin, and Patricia got it. Roger Stalback, Roger the Dodger, Captain America, Captain Comeback, and a different, see, remember these are specialty helmets right there. There you go. What do you win, Justin Bible? You win bragging rights. You can tell all your friends, guess what? I won the Who Am I game at the end of the, at the end of the Sensational Mixer on jaspeaskasegraves.com. You can tell your friends, ask your friends, what have they done today? Were they winners today? No. This is a really, this is a really cool helmet, folks. There's the, I wanted to find that. There's the Beckett authentication right there. And there is a corresponding, if you look at the top camera, there's the corresponding Beckett, you can see the Beckett blue card inside there as well. Dallas Cowboys, Jared Spielman, with the Dallas Cowboys, a very nice hit for you. And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. That was the since 19 box sensational football mixer. It was pretty sensational, I thought. Nice finish here too, with this specialty football helmet. All right, let's do a quick recap and then I'll give away the Kyler Murray. There's the A.J. Brown Autograph Book. That was a nice one for the Titans. Adam Cupperman, nice Foster Moreau. We had the Jerry Judy one-of-one, which was nice. There's J.J. Taylor, out of Van Jefferson in the mix two, Rated Rookie Bronze, Baker Mayfield, Christian McCaffrey, Josh Rosen on card autograph. This marinated a little bit, but it turned out to be pretty nice. Connor Cook, but Nike Swoosh is still pretty sick. People will buy those spots just for, buy those hits just for the Nike Swoosh alone. That's Antoine Brooks Jr. That was a nice one, Gold Cracked Ice. I like that Todd Gurley Rookie Auto. We pulled out of field access. That was wild. And there's that Rookie Patrick Mahomes in his college gear. And of course, the helmet. And plus a bunch of other parallels that we pulled out of there as well. All right, so as I stated, name on top gets the Kyler Murray. We pulled this guy, Kelly Bryan, who's not associated or affiliated with an NFL team as of today. So he was pulled next. So that's gonna be second on the list. And third on the list is gonna be 900 points. So everybody get to shot at that. Might be easier just to put it all on one list. All right, so let's go back to the list. So everyone between Jim Moran and the Cardinals and Adam Cupperman, the Redskins and everybody in between have a shot at that. All right, good luck everybody. Let's roll it and randomize it two and a six, eight times. Name on top gets the Kyler Murray. One, two, three, four, five, six, and two more times. Seven and eight, seven and eighth and final time. After eight times, top three. And big thanks everybody for getting into the action. Really appreciate it. We need more mixers in the store. Check it out, there's a baseball mixer we can do tonight. Jim Moran, 900 points going your way. Josh, you've got the Kelly Bryant and Jared. Wow, Jared had the Cowboys. I don't think I called his name all break. So he got the Cowboys, got the helmet and got this really nice Kyler Murray. Awesome, excellent. Thanks everyone. That's four out of 10 Kyler Murray, just three off the jersey number. Kelly Bryant going to Josh Koppler and Jim Moran, 900 points going your way. I'm Joe for jaspyscasebreaks.com. Thank you very much for watching. I'll see you next time for the next break. Bye bye.


This evening I've been asked to speak about one of the most painful issues that confronts the Jewish community. That is an issue that really stymies the mind of how to solve it. That's the issue of intermarriage. Intermarriage has grown. The statistics tell us from somewhere around 6 percent of the Jewish population after World War II to presently somewhere up to 52 percent. It is a problem that has gotten so bad that many families have given up hope of figuring out how to prevent it or undo an intermarriage. They've just decided we must go with the flow. I don't believe that that has to be our only response, especially in the fact that evangelical Christian missionaries are using the intermarriage issue as another ingenious way to assimilate Jews into Christianity. Several years ago in Newsweek Magazine, when they explored the issue of intermarriage, the writer of the article wrote the following statement that a young little boy was attending a synagogue preschool. One day the teacher asked him, who do you love? And this boy, a product of an intermarriage, responded, I love Jesus. So for those that think that an intermarriage will simply allow people to go in their own paths and that the influences of Christianity will not affect them, that story powerfully points out that that's not the case. Realizing that for many intermarried couples, the issue of intermarriage is that the issue of faith and belief is something that is probably not on their mind when they get married. It's distant from their thoughts and those of us in the room that have experienced that issue in our families or friends know that that's a fact. At some point in that relationship the issue of faith and religion may come to the front of the issues in their marriage. I know a personal case in Los Angeles where a Jewish man who married a non-Jewish woman, he himself was so assimilated that the thought of even suggesting a conversion on her part didn't even enter his mind to suggest it. There was absolutely no interest in faith or religion in his relationship. Ten years into the marriage, very happy couple in terms of non-religious issues, the wife's mother became ill. And while visiting her in the hospital, her memories of her childhood faith became aroused. And over a period of a year she discovered her connection to God and to faith. And I think many of us would say that that's a very positive and good thing for this non-Jewish individual. She prayed with her mother, it gave her strength. When she presented this to her husband he shrugged his shoulders and said, well it's not for me, I'm not interested. Wanting something cohesive in their marriage. She sought help. She turned to a missionary group called Chosen People Ministries who had recently published a newsletter with the cover saying intermarriage, a new witnessing frontier. And in the accompanying article to that magazine, just one sentence from it makes a very powerful statement. We in Chosen People Ministries are glad to provide a spiritual home for intermarried couples and their children where they can be affirmed and encouraged in their Jewish identities and at the same time of faith in Yeshua, quote, Jesus the Messiah. Their answer to the spiritual dilemma in an interfaith marriage is to give the couple both. They can be Jewish and Christian simultaneously the same presentation that's been given by Jews for Jesus and missionaries to you and to your neighbors and to your friends and children. But now it's specifically being targeted at intermarried couples. What is the solution to intermarriage and to this particular problem? Of all the research that has been done, the only suggestion that has proven to be successful is to make the Jewish partner understand what it means to be Jewish. Answering the question of why be Jewish because if the person doesn't feel why they should be Jewish and understand being Jewish and feel a spiritual uplifting within their soul for being Jewish, then to tell them not to marry someone who's not Jewish means absolutely nothing to them. Recognizing this specific problem with intermarried couples being targeted by missionaries, the Jewish Community Foundation in Los Angeles funded Jews for Judaism with a grant of $35,000 to create a program that would reach out to interfaith couples who have already been married for years. It's already an accepted fact in their lives and try to reach to them and inoculate them against this missionary argument and also show them that there is a community that cares for them that will offer warmth to them. So working with interfaith experts throughout California, we came up with a webpage and a program of lectures which is our response to intermarriage and interfaith couples.  It is something different than you've ever experienced before because it doesn't attack them. It doesn't condemn them because if you want to bring them closer you must bring people closer with warmth. This campaign will be launched in full within the next month and hopefully will spread to our other centers throughout the world. But to tell you how in a nutshell that warmth and caring can help a person, I'll end with a short story. Last November, a Jewish family was referred to our office in Los Angeles by their conservative rabbi. They came to the office and met with me and told me of their dilemma. Their dilemma was that their son, Jonathan, a brilliant student at the University of California in San Diego, a junior, was dating a non-Jewish girl who was a Christian and according to them had now started to explore Christianity himself. They were beyond words the pain that they expressed to me. And they came seeking help, the rabbi had referred them to Jews for Judaism as the resource that he knew of that could help them. And we figured out a way to make Jonathan feel comfortable coming to meet with me was interesting that they told me that one of his favorite pastimes was scuba diving which happens to be one of mine so when he finally called up and said my parents want me to talk to you I said oh about scuba diving and he just said scuba diving how are you certified he listed them off we had a nice talk about that and the barriers between us broke down and we really hit it off very well he agreed that during winter break he would come to my home and meet with me he showed up the last week of December to my home and spent six hours straight talking to me we spoke about passages in the Bible that he had been studied studying whether in Isaiah Daniel we speak spoke about the importance of analyzing every nuance of our Bible and how important it is and then he asked me if I had a personal relationship with God that I really feel that God was touching my life so I told them the story of how when my wife 22 years ago was expecting our first child she went into labor 10 and a half weeks premature we rushed her to the hospital and the doctors tried everything to stop the labor but they couldn't they came to me 15 hours after we were in the hospital and they said Rabbi Kravitz there's no way this child can survive the baby is breached the umbilical cord is around its neck the lungs are not developed we're just going to do a caesarean section to save your wife's life now so my wife and I sat and we prayed to God for help and as they took my wife into the operating room I told her the story of the great Robb Rabbi Schneer Zalman of Liadi who on young people ran from the synagogue to seek out a woman who was giving birth but didn't have any food or any heat in her home and he found her and he made a fire and he cooked food and he helped deliver the baby and he saved that baby's life and I said in the merit of that great rabbi Rabbi Schneer Zalman perhaps God will also help us two hours later as they rolled this small child about this big out to the emergency room with tubes in his arm and in nose we were in shock the doctor came back into the office into the waiting room and said Rabbi Kravitz I have to talk to you I saw his name was Dr. Tannenbaum and I felt good because he's Jewish he said we don't understand it's a miracle everybody in the emergency room is calling this the miracle baby we can't explain how it's happening my first question to the doctor was doctor what is your Hebrew name and I looked at him and he answered back my Hebrew name is Schneer Zalman the exact same name as the rabbi in the story and I told that story to Jonathan and he came back the following week for six hours and he was so moved he went back to San Diego a different person three months paths and I didn't hear from him two weeks before Passover I sent him an email Jonathan I miss having contact with you maybe you'll come for the Seder he sends back an email the next day of course I'll come and I have to tell you what happened Rabbi Kravitz two weeks ago I was in church and I was on my knees in the church praying and I was so confused by the issues that I heard from the Christians and from you I didn't know what to do I said God send me a sign I got up from my knees sat down in the pew and I hear two women speaking behind me and one turns to the other and says I have to tell you about the wonderful Shabbat experience I had at my Jewish neighbor's house he said rabbi I was blown away I said you're coming for pay so he said definitely after that two weeks go by I call him on the cell phone you're definitely you're still coming he says rabbi I'm definitely coming I said that was an amazing story you told me he said that's not the end I said what's the end of the story he says rabbi I wasn't sure if that was really a sign and I remembered the story you told me about your son snare's almond so I said God send me a more specific sign let me meet someone with the same Hebrew name as myself said rabbi last night I was in an AOL chat room someone sent me an interim instant message and I started speaking with him he turns out to be Jewish I type what is your Hebrew name he types back Joseph Pesa he said rabbi that's my name he said that's enough God answered my prayers I'm back he not only broke off his relationship with the non-Jewish girl he not only gave up his exploration of Christianity which in fact he had already converted he's now learning biblical Hebrew and planning this December to go on the birthright experience to Eretz Israel and to be totally immersed in Judaism this is the message we can give our people the message of spirituality of warmth and caring and with that individually one by one we will help rescue many many thousands of people and this is the work that we're doing and I appreciate your support and help thank you very much


From the CUBE studios in Palo Alto in Boston, connecting with thought leaders all around the world, this is a CUBE conversation. Hi everybody, welcome back to theCUBE. This is Dave Vellante and you're watching a special presentation, Data Ops and Acton made possible by IBM. You know, what's happening is the innovation engine in the IT economy has really shifted. Used to be Moore's law. Today it's applying machine intelligence and AI to data, really scaling that and operationalizing that new knowledge. The challenge is that it's not so easy to operationalize AI and infuse it into the data pipeline. But what we're doing in this program is bringing in practitioners who have actually had a great deal of success in doing just that. And I'm really excited to have Etumale Monale is here. She's the executive head of data management for personal and business banking at Standard Bank of South Africa. Etumale, thanks so much for coming in theCUBE. Thank you for having me, Dave. You're very welcome.  How are things in Johannesburg? Things in Johannesburg are fine. We've been on lockdown now, I think it's day 33 if I'm not mistaken, lost count. But we're really grateful for the swift action of government, we only, I mean, we have less than 4,000 cases in the country and infection rate is really slow. So we've really, I think been able to flatten the curve and we're grateful for being able to be protected in this way. So we're all working from home all learning the new normal and we're all in this together. That's great to hear. Why don't you tell us a little bit about your role, your data person, we're really going to get into it. But share with us, you know, how you spend your time. Okay, well, I hit up a data operations function and a data management function, which really is the foundational part of the data value chain that then allows other parts of the organization to monetize data and leverage it as the use cases apply. We monetize it ourselves as well, but really we're an enterprise-wide organization that ensures that data quality is managed, data is governed, that we have the effective practices applied to the entire lineage of the data. Ownership and curation is in place and everything else from a regulatory as well as opportunity perspective then is able to be leveraged upon. So historically, you know, data has been viewed as sort of this expense. It's big, it's growing, it needs to be managed, deleted after a certain amount of time and then, you know, 10 years ago, the big data moved it, data became an asset. You had a lot of shadow IT, people going off and doing things that maybe didn't comply to the corporate edicts probably drove your part of the organization crazy. But talk about that, what has changed the thing in the last, you know, five years or so just in terms of how people approach data?  The banker of the late 90s had to then contend with the emergence of technologies that made their lives easier and allowed for automation and processes to run much more smoothly. In the early 2000s, I would say that digitization was a big focus and in fact, my previous role was head of digital banking. And at the time we thought digital was the panacea, it is the Beall and Endall, it's the thing that's gonna make organizations competitive. Lo and behold, we realized that once you've gotten all your digital platforms ready, they are just the plate or the pipe and nothing is flowing through it and there's no food on the plate if data is not the main focus. So really, it's always been an asset. I think organizations just never consciously knew that data was that. Okay, so it sounds like once you made that sort of initial digital transformation, you really had to work it. And what we're hearing from a lot of practitioners like yourself is challenges related to that involve different parts of the organization, different skill sets of challenges and sort of getting everybody to work together on the same page, et cetera. But maybe you could take us back to sort of when you started on this initiative around data ops, what was that like? What were some of the challenges that you faced and how'd you get through them? I think first and foremost, Dave, organizations used to believe that data was IT's problem and that's probably why you then saw the emergence of things like shadow IT. But when you really acknowledge that data is an asset, just like money is an asset, then you have to then take accountability for it just the same way as you would any other asset in the organization. And you will not abdicate its management to a separate function that's not called to the business. And oftentimes IT are seen as a support or an enabling function, but not quite the main show in most organizations, right? So what we then did is first emphasize that data is a business capability. The business function, it resides in business next to product management, next to marketing, next to everything else that the business sees as core, data management also has to be core to every role and every function, to different degrees and varying its sense. And when you take accountability as an owner of a business unit, you also take accountability for the data in the systems that support the business unit. For us, that was the first big shift. And convincing my colleagues that data was their problem and not something that we had to worry about and they just kind of leave us to it was also a journey. But that was kind of the first step in terms of getting the data operations journey going. You had to first acknowledge. Oh, please, Darion. No, you just had to first acknowledge that it's something you must take accountability of as a banker, not just leave to a different part of the organization. That's a real cultural mindset.  It's almost like a Trump card. And so the businesses embrace that, but what did you do to support that? Is there has to be trust in the data? It has to be timeliness. And so maybe you could take us through how you achieve those objectives and maybe some other objectives that the business demands. So the one thing I didn't mention, Dave, is that obviously they didn't embrace it in the beginning. It wasn't a, oh yeah, that makes sense. Do that type of conversation. What you had was a few very strategic people with the right mindset that I could partner with that understood the case for data management. And while we had that as an in, we developed a framework for a fully mature data operations capability in the organization and what that would look like in a target state scenario. And then what you do is you wait for a good crisis. So we had a little bit of a challenge in that our local regulator found us a little bit wanting in terms of our data quality. And from that perspective, it then brought the case for data quality management to the fore. So now there's a burning platform, you have an appetite for people to partner with you and say, okay, we need this to comply to help us out. And when they start seeing data option action, do they then buy into the concept? So sometimes you need to just wait for a good crisis and leverage it and only do that, which the organization will appreciate at that time. You don't have to go big bang. Data quality management was the use case at the time five years ago. So we focused all our energy on that. And after that, it gave us leeway and license to really bring to maturity or the other capabilities that the business might not well understand as well. So when that crisis hit, thinking about people process and technology, you probably had to turn some knobs in each of those areas. Can you talk about that? So from a technology perspective, that's when we partnered with IBM to implement information analyzer for us in terms of making sure that then we could profile the data effectively. What was important for us is to make strides in terms of showing the organization progress, but also being able to give them access to self-service tools that will give them insight into their data. From a technology perspective, that was kind of, I think the genesis of us implementing the IBM suite in earnest from a data management perspective. People-wise, we really then also began a data stewardship journey in which we implemented business unit stewards of data. I don't like using the word stewards because in my organization, it's taken lightly. It's almost like a part-time occupation. So we converted them, we call them data managers. And the analogy I would give is every department with a P and L, any department worth of salt has a FD or financial director. And if money is important to you, you have somebody helping you take accountability and execute on your responsibilities in managing that money. So if data is equally important as an asset, you will have a leader, a manager helping you execute on your data ownership accountability. And that was the people journey. So firstly, I had kind of soldiers planted in each department which were data managers that would then continue building the culture, maturing the data practices as applicable to each business unit use cases. So what was important is that every manager in every business unit who's a data manager focus their energy on making that business unit happy by ensuring that their data was of the right compliance level at the right quality, the right best practices from a process and management perspective and was governed through. And then in terms of process, really it's about spreading through the entire ecosystem. Data management as a practice can be quite lonely in the sense that unless the core business of an organization is managing data, they're worried about doing what they do to make money. And most people in most business units will be the only unicorn relative to everybody else who does what they do. And so for us, it was important to have a community of practice, a process where all the data managers across business as well as the technology parts and the specialists who are data management professionals coming together and making sure that we work together on specific use cases. So I wonder if I can ask you, so the industry sort of likes to market this notion of dev ops applied to data and data ops. Have you applied that type of mindset, approach, agile, continuous improvement?  Can you share? Well, you know, when I was reflecting on this before this interview, I realized that our very first use case of data ops was probably when we implemented information analyzer in our business unit, simply because it was the first time that IT and business as well as data professionals came together to spec the use case. And then we would literally in an agile fashion with a multidisciplinary team come together to make sure that we got the outcomes that we required. I mean, for you to firstly get a data quality management paradigm where we moved from 6% quality at some point from our client data, now we're sitting at 99%. And that 1% literally is just a timing issue. To get from 6 to 99, you have to make sure that the entire value chain is engaged. So our business partners were the fundamental determinant of the business rules for apply in terms of what does quality mean? What are the criteria for quality? And then what we do is translate that into what we put in the catalog and ensure that the profiling rules that we run are against those business rules that were defined at first. So you'd have upfront determination of the outcome with business, and then the team would go into an agile cycle of maybe two-week sprints where we develop certain things, have stand-ups come together, and then the output would be dashboarded in a prototype kind of fashion where business then gets to go double check the outcome. So that was the first iteration, I would say. We've become much more mature at it and we've got many more use cases now and there's actually one that's quite exciting that we recently achieved over the end of 2019 into the beginning of this year. So what we did was, Dave, I'm worried about the sunlight coming through the window.  Is it fine? I just thought it faded glare. The sunset in South Africa, we've been on CubeSat sometimes, it's so bright, we have to put on sunglasses, but... Okay, all right, no problem, awesome. So the most recent one, which was in late 2019 coming into early this year, we had long kind of achieved the compliance and the regulatory burning platform issues. And now we are in a place of, I think opportunity and luxury where we can now find use cases that are pertinent to business execution and business productivity. The one that comes to mind is, we're 158 years old as an organization, right? So this bank was born before technology. It was also born in the days of no integration because every branch was a standalone entity. You'd have these big ledges that transactions were documented in. And I think once every six months or so, these ledges would be taken by horse drawn carriers to a simple place to go reconcile between branches, et cetera. But the point is, if that is your legacy, the initial kind of ERP implementations would have been focused on process efficiency based on old ways of accounting for transactions. And allocating information. So it was not optimized for the 21st century. Our architecture has had huge legacy burden on it. And so going into a place where you can be agile with data is something that we constantly working towards. So we get to a place where we have hundreds of branches across the country and all of them obviously selling to clients servicing clients as usual and not being able for any person leading sales teams or execution teams, they were not able in a short space of time to see the impact of their tactic from a data perspective, from a reporting perspective. We were in a place where in some cases based on how our ledgers roll up and the reconciliation between various systems and accounts work, it would take you six weeks to verify whether your tactics were effective or not because to actually see the revenue hitting our general ledger and our balance sheet might take that long. That is an ineffective way to operate in a such a competitive environment. So what you had are frontline sales agents literally manually documenting the sales that they had made but not being able to verify whether that or not is bringing revenue until six weeks later. So what we did then is we sat down and defined all the requirements from a reporting perspective and the objective was to move from six weeks late since the 24 hours. And even 24 hours is not perfect. Our ideal would be that by choice of day you're able to see what you've done for that day but that's the next epic that we'll go through. However, we literally had the frontline teams defining what they'd want to see in a dashboard, the business teams defining what the business rules behind the quality and the definitions would be and then we had an entire analytics team and the data management team working around sourcing the data, optimizing it, curating it and making sure that the latency is cut down. That's I think our latest use case for data arts. And now we're in a place where people can look at a dashboard with a cube of self-service, they can log on at any time and see the sales that they've made which is very important right now in the time of COVID-19 from a productivity and the execution of competitiveness perspective. So those are two great use cases of cumuling. So the first one going from data quality, 6% to 99%, I mean, 6% is all you do is spend time arguing about the data that stills productivity. And then 99% you're there and you said it's just basically a timing issue with latency and the timing. And then the second one is instead of paving the cow path with an outdated ledger, barret data process, six weeks you've now compressed that down to 24 hours you want to get to the end of day. So you've built in the agility into your data pipeline. I'm going to ask you then, so when GDPR hit were you able to very quickly leverage this capability and comply and then maybe other compliance edict as well? Well, actually, what we just did now was post GDPR for us and we got GDPR right about three years ago but literally all we got right was reporting for risk and compliance purposes. The use cases that we have now are really around business opportunity less so the risk. So we prioritized compliance reports a long time ago. We're able to do real-time reporting from a single transaction perspective, suspicious transactions, et cetera to our reserve bank and our governor. So from that perspective, that was what was prioritized in the beginning which was the initial crisis. So what you found is an entire engine geared towards making sure that data quality was correct for reporting and regulatory purposes. But really that is not the be all and end all of it. And if that's all we did, I believe we really would not have succeeded or could have said we succeeded because data monetization is actually the penesty. The leveraging of data for business opportunity is actually then what tells you whether you've got the right culture or not. You're just doing it to comply and it means the hearts and minds of the rest of the business still aren't in the data game. I love this story because to me it's nirvana. For so many years, we've been pouring money to mitigate risk and you have no choice to do it. You know, the general counsel signs off on it, the CFO begrudgingly signs off on it, but it's got to be done for years, decades. We've been waiting to use these risk initiatives to actually drive business value. It kind of happened with enterprise data warehouse, but it was too slow and it was too complicated. And it certainly didn't happen with email archiving. That was just sort of a checkbox. It sounds like we're at that point today. And I want to ask you, Timmy Lang, we're talking earlier about a crisis going to perpetuated this cultural shift and you took advantage of that. The mother nature dealt up a crisis that we've never seen before.  What kind of opportunities do you see in front of you today as a result of COVID-19? Well, I mean, because of the quality of time data that we had now, we were able to very quickly respond to COVID-19 in our context where the government put us on lockdown relatively early in the cycle of infection. And what it meant is it brought a little bit of a shock to the economy because small businesses all of a sudden didn't have a source of revenue for potentially three to six weeks. And based on the data policy work that we did before, it was actually relatively easy to be agile enough to do the things that we did. So within the first weekend of lockdown in South Africa, we were the first bank to proactively and automatically offer small businesses and students with loans on our books, a instant three month payment holiday assuming they were in good standing. And we did that upfront. So it was actually an up-out process rather than you had to call in and arrange for that to happen. And I don't believe we would have been able to do that if our data quality was not where it's supposed to be. We have since made many more initiatives to try and keep the economy going, to try and keep our clients in a state of liquidity. And so data quality at that point and that doesn't show is critical to knowing who you're talking to, who needs what and which solutions would best be fitted towards various segments. I think the second component is working from home now brings it entirely different normal, right? So if we had not been able to provide productivity dashboards and sales dashboards to management and all the users that require it, we would not be able to then validate or say what our productivity levels are now that people are working from home. I mean, we still have essential services workers that physically go into work but a lot of our relationship bankers are operating from home. And that the baseline and the foundation that we set for productivity tracking for various metrics being able to be reported on in a short space of time has been really beneficial. The next opportunity for us is we've been really good at doing this for the normal operational and frontline type of workers but knowledge workers have also not necessarily been big productivity reporters historically. They kind of get an output and the output might be six weeks down the line but in a place where teams now are not co-located and work needs to flow in an agile fashion. We need to start using the same foundation and data pipeline that we've laid down as a foundation for the reporting of knowledge worker and agile team type of metric. So in terms of developing new functionality and solutions there's a flow in a multidisciplinary team and how do those solutions get architected in a way where data assist in the flow of information so solutions can be optimally developed. Well, it sounds like you're able to map key metrics that business lines care about into these dashboards you're using a sort of data mapping approach if you will which makes it much more relevant for the business as you said before they own the data that's got to be a huge business benefit just in terms of again, we talked about cultural we talked about feed but the business impact of being able to do that it has to be pretty substantial. It really, really is and the use cases really are endless because every department finds the own opportunity to utilize in terms of that. Also, I think the accountability factor has significantly increased because as the owner of a specific domain of data you know that you're not only accountable to yourself and your own operation but people downstream to you as a product and an outcome depend on you to ensure that the quality of the data you produce is of a high nature. So curation of data is a very important thing and business is really starting to understand that. So the CARD department knows that they are the owners of CARD data and the vehicle asset department knows that they are the owners of vehicle data linked to a client profile and all of that creates an ecosystem around the client. I mean, when you come to a bank you don't want to be known as a number and you don't want to be known just for one product you want to be known across everything that you do with that organization but most banks are not structured that way. They still are product houses and product systems on which your data resides and if those don't act in concert then we come across extremely schizophrenic as if we don't know our clients and so that's very, very important. To be like, I could go on for an hour talking about this topic but unfortunately we're out of time. Thanks so much for sharing your deep knowledge and your story. It's really an inspiring one and congratulations on all your success and I guess I'll leave it with, you know, what's next? You gave us, you know, a glimpse of some of the things you wanted to do pressing some of the elapsed times and the time cycle but where do you see this going in the next, you know, kind of midterm and longer term?  So you believe that this is a great foundation for anything AI to be applied in terms of the use cases that we can find. The second one is really providing an API economy where certain data products can be shared with third parties. I think that's probably where we want to take things as well. We are already utilizing external third party data sources in our data quality management suite to ensure validity of client identity and residents and things of that nature. But going forward, because fintechs and banks and other organizations are probably going to partner to be more competitive going forward, we need to be able to provide data products that can then be leveraged by external parties and vice versa for us. It's like thanks again, it was great having you. Thank you very much Dave, appreciate the opportunity. Okay, and thank you for watching everybody. We are digging in to data ops. We've got practitioners, we've got influencers, we've got experts, we're going into the crowd chat. It's the crowd chat dot net slash data ops. So keep it right there. We're back with more coverage. This is Dave Vellante for theCUBE.