Here we go. All right, boom. That's what Chris Holmes does Does this move boom? Here we go Live on the metal voice. Yeah, we are pure live today. It's not a Just everybody knows this is not a sort of video live a premiere. It is live. We're alive Like you could pinch me. I will yell live. Okay, and spoiler alert Alan We've been dying We had to wait until today That's right to make embargo embargo review muzzled Muzzled, that's what we were we're muzzled as I was reading. It's tough for me to read now I mean a part of this disposable society of You know, maybe like 30 seconds I can read now. I don't know I'm part of this horrible attention span But you know what I got through it Thick book Hachette books Hachette books comes out today biblical Rob Halford's heavy metal scriptures Look at that. Look at that. That's great. But a fantastic read. Highly recommend end of the review. See you tomorrow Merry Christmas. Okay Alan I'm warming my hands up. So there's no Pavarotti Jim. He's no Pavarotti All right, again spoiler alert for all those people out there who want to read this You may want to just listen for a bit and then just turn us off. Well, don't turn us off, but listen for a bit Okay, how does this compare? I'm gonna ask you the question. How does Biblical compare to confess which was his first book? That's what two two different two different things all together, right? They're both well-written. They're both interesting reads one was an autobiography Obviously of a very very interesting life in confess Halbert confess That's how she had books too. So but this one this one really takes you like like biblical scriptures all the way from, you know, how they got started the early years of touring Hotel rooms promotion promoters record companies artwork Everything that has to go into a band He breaks down and takes it from like Psalms in the Bible, right? He breaks it down books of rev books and then he breaks it down to Psalms. So that's sort of the metaphorically way of sort of Talking about this book, but I also look at it like a Bands for dummies sort of like this is the ins and outs This is the ins and outs of being in a band and you said it everything from starting your band To getting on the label using the name use the two titles titles managers media social media Conflict within the band conflicts within the band Just leaving the band coming back into the band and Retiring or not retiring from the band. So yeah, it's really cool. All right I know it was like I loved it because you you you break it down like that It's it's you know smaller chapters easy to read interesting reads and you know The more I know about Rob how for the more I just like the guy and I find him interesting, you know Looking back in the day Jim, you know, I don't know about yourself. I'll ask you the question but I'll give you know Rob was the the one kind of Leads singer that's always sounded a little felt to me a little standoffish and a little bit Unreachable, you know the unapproachable would maybe be the word, you know Bruce was always a guy that's trying to speak in the native language wherever He is touring in the world and Brian Johnson you can't get more down to earth than him He's neither was just crazy, but he was a heavy metal fan freak But Rob always seem you know pretty serious guy pretty you know too much talking on the stage Then he'd go into a dance and you say okay He's he's kind of a normal guy there. He likes dancing and stuff But I mean he was just unapproachable It seems to me back in the day and and the more I learned and reading these books like he says He's just a regular Burke from Walsall, you know, and you get that feeling not only is he a music fan He's still a music fan He remembers what it is like being a music fan meeting your idols Going to the concerts buying your tickets curing in line to get into the venue He talks about this in this book and he can relate to everything that any music fan has gone through and a lot of the His experiences that he describes a book. I think 99.9 percent of bands have also lived through so Show yours out and pull these up a little bit Somebody somebody wrote sword shirt. So there you go. These are the short Yeah, I know I just got thrown off because somebody wrote sword shirt. So I figured okay What's better time to plug sword, but that's what I that's what I take away from the book Not only is a enjoyable read, but he is he's really a down-to-earth guy that just a music fan at the end of the day But he's no Pavarotti And he doesn't like the sound of his own voice even though everybody loves his voice He does understand why everybody makes a big fuss over it. I will give a couple of spoilers, but not yet This is what I love about this book compared to last book I didn't like the last book so much and I'll tell you why because For me whenever I read these sort of autobiographies, I want to know about the music I want to know the inside scoop of the music industry and what's going on I'm kind of and this is just a personal thing for me.  I did that in grade 11. I did this and and so forth, right? I don't I'm not that interested. I don't mind a high level of that Right kind of where you grow up and you're upbringing quickly, but I'm more interested in this, you know Being in a band 101 Anybody who wants to start a band anybody who wants to be You know sort of break as a band then definitely read this book because it definitely gives you From start to sort of almost finish, right? Everything you have to deal with and even when when he's being in even interviewers like ourselves, right? Like what's he thinking of when when we're interviewing him or he's being interviewed by someone like us, right? Selfies, right? Merchants I guess you refer to as his wrist merchants, which is not a positive connotation and a lot of Examples he gives into the in the book but with a few exceptions like Jeff Barton, etc. I mean He really the music press he is a love-hate relationship with a lot of them. So Selfies, what does he think of selfies right when people tap him on the shoulder? Hey, do a selfie with him for me Rob his ears What I did notice and I will this is here's a spoiler right now so tune out for a 30 seconds Not much about Tim Ripper Owens and those Tim Ripper Owen ears Did you notice that just the only sort of mention he had with Tim Ripper was in regards to the three tremors where he said darn it I should have trademarked that name, but I didn't and it's all good, right? And I did ask him this question what he thought about the three tremors a few years back and he says it's okay with it He's good with it and all the luck to again. It's his relation his His experiences in a band, you know, it wasn't in the band with Ripper So I got no problem with that whatsoever.   And that's sort of the reality, right and it humbled him And I did I think I think Bruce might have gone through the same thing, right? That's what he alluded to Yeah, yeah, all right So listen to this so parent our buddy parents saying very often the second books are cash grabs if you ask me This book is better than the first one because this is more the stuff that I personally like And I'll just give everybody a high level and I'm not even going to talk about the book I'm just giving you a high level He talks about lawyers managers being a songwriter a live album studio albums recording Venues different types of venues roadies hotels the image of a band the look of a band signings signing stuff and people putting stuff on ebay social media online media shooting videos thoughts on spotify thoughts on kk thoughts on We're a four piece But the whole everybody went crazy when they wanted to go out as a four piece a year ago and now we're a five piece So that's why they're heavy metal culture to denim and leather the inks and tats and the hair Everything that's anything that you ever wonder about heavy metal is in this book Yeah, his perspective and and really breaking down to the subculture of heavy metal and the fans and the very loyal and Dedicated fans of heavy metal that he has enormous enormous respect for obviously they pay the bills at the end of the day Uh, you know his favorite bands and performers, right? This is rob hofford Rob hofford's book on how to make it as a rock star or a musician. Go ahead. Sorry, alan a constant Temptations of the rock and roll lifestyle, you know, we got the not only the pleasures of the flesh But you've got uh, you know the alcohol the drugs the rehabs and Like he said a lot of the you know, his story is can be reflected by you know, 90 of the bands from the day So, yeah, yeah, you know, uh, here's some questions. Uh, how does it compare to bruce's book? What would you would you prefer this book or bruce's book? Bruce bruce is an autobiography, right? Uh, this is this is more of a how-to book like you said chimp Well if we're talking about this book I I prefer this book Yeah, me too 100 bruce's book was vague And more of more about more sort of similar to Confess where more of the life of the person versus more of being in the music industry So rob if you're watching the show and I know you are Thumbs up It makes a nice stockings stuffer if you have big stockings to stuff it Is this book available in french, iscccet livre disponible en francais? Jim Is it available? I don't know but I know it's released today november first probably probably not right away Usually there's a delay, but uh, I know bruce's book was in french So it's possible that this one will be down the road as well. I don't know. Yeah, that's a good question All right, has every like our shorts short shirts We're gonna do this how many times All right, he talks about Streaming services versus the traditional way of buying albums Not a big fan of spotify not a big fan of spot. We've heard that from different You know people that we've interviewed over the last dozen years a lot of them are like Please don't support these guys because we never get paid. We never see a cent You know don't don't buy online Pius you're trying to get it right from our record company or from our website and And and again he goes into that a little deeper. But what for you jim? What was what was a revelation? From this book if I can use that word to in a biblical sense. That's a you know what? Here's my revelation spoiler alert Unleashed in the east He kind of goes into a little more detail of how that album was sort of put together like The music part of it was live As we all know, but his vocals was I thought he did sort of punch ins But he did the whole album in the studio and He was mad enough to admit that and he said he did it in one take so it had a sort of live feel to it so That was kind of like a revelation that I already knew but it was more detailed. So what about you? I Reading a heavy-duty kk's book and confess rob's book. I uh I don't think I really grasped how long the conflict between glenn and kk Was going on for I mean it was basically from from the very beginning You know, we always thought they were tight band or sharing leads or these guys were a dynamic duo You know glenn's got you know, they're putting on the the liner notes glenn plays this solo He gave us in the left side solo now. They're playing harmony and so they try to keep everything fair Which which rob rob obviously being the third writing partner He always try to be a completely neutral and fair But it seems like there's a lot a lot a lot of conflict that Was there for decades with not just not just during the notion of damage and the Epitaph touring years. I mean this this was stuff that was brewing for for decades and technique kk alludes to it But I didn't realize it was You know that that's strong for that long so And you know what I like about rob he Doesn't take sides. He kind of just says this is the situation. This is how kk was feeling This is how glenn was feeling. These are the two two type of characters glenn was Grew up from an upper middle class family Where kk grew up in a lower Middle class family or poor with a very tough childhood. I mean he goes into that and his book And that yeah and that reflects on the dynamic between them, right, you know and Look, we're just giving you guys high level here. There's more details to what we're saying But the other thing too is you know, we we get books like this. We we read them You you have numerous books. I have numerous autobiographies of all our rock and roll heroes And and rob's like I don't read any of them. I live I live the life I don't need to read about the slashes or or anybody else's book, right? So that was a that was a little bit of a surprise and that was a understandably so so He talks about Will kk be back in the band? And again spoiler alert Um, he says it's kind of like a divorce, right when people are saying hey, you're divorced But why don't you get back together with your wife sort of like it's just too difficult but Saying that he's really happy that the rock and roll hall of fame that they will be Sort of reunited and playing together and I personally think that's going to spark something right there In fact then glenn is not well One thing is you know, I read Ozzy Osbourne Autobiography and I was laughing out loud and like throughout the whole book, you know and Brian Johnson's first book, you know, there's certain sections you just laugh out loud In this book. It was really the stories about their first manager Dave corky cork that you know, there was I mean, you know Just a guy that was just doing his best But quite an interesting fellow and some of the stories that rob tells in the book are very amusing and Worth worth the read so I kind of like the guest list When you like you dedicate like he's dedicating chapters to the hotels the parties the image the guest list, right? And it kind of brings us, you know, because we get on the guest list and a lot of shows, right? And it kind of brings you sort of shows you the other perspective or the other side of things and um It's cool how he sort of puts that all together and puts everything in perspective that Everybody wants to be on the guest list. Everybody wants to be backstage He just after a show the last thing he wants to do is kind of You know go around and talk to the record company people He wants to talk to the fans who are waiting outside and he loves to meet them and talk to them, right? At least that's what I got out of it parent parent asks a good question here Anything in the man's mindset around the turbo area the synth sound and toy with the legs of docking by jovian cinderella uh, I mean he talks about You know he refers like he confessed. He was just getting sober on that time Uh, he was went in with full of energy There was a new sound that you know, they're always pushing their boundaries Priest always did what they wanted But no not too much about the touring bands that they uh that they toured with so But he does and I said this before he talks about uh a year ago Spoiler alert He talks about a year ago when they said they would go out as a four piece And that it was his idea and he thought he'd get a little backlash But basically they crashed the internet with that idea and they go, okay, okay, okay? Let's go as five and it was actually who was it. It was uh Who said it was a bad idea or kind of alluded to was a bad idea. It was uh, it was scott travis the Scott travis that's right. What he very succinctly said What do we gain from this and nobody had an answer of what they could gain? But everybody had an answer what they could possibly lose which is The anger and frustration for a lot of their their fans. So They talk about the roadies, you know the job of the roadies and how hard they work and how Unappreciative they are right and I like that bit The tour manners like you said and the venues the type of venues and you know The better and the worst ones and the small and the big right But his favorite bands are going right back to the Beatles right and And of course, Ronnie James dear being one of his favorite singers and What he listens to what the priests before they go on it's always the same song the the little huddle they do and Just the traditions of being a touring band and on the road after all, you know 50 years Let's face it 50 years. So lots of stories lots of great anecdotes a lot of great insight of what it is to be a touring band And and the band starting from scratch and and working their way up to where they're You know considered a classic heavy metal and it's still and more importantly Rob says in the book that there's still an active band right talks about a little bit Richie Faulkner and and the concert where he He had the birthday order and You know after stage like a lot of them were on the bus and didn't realize it was that serious until the next day. So Any Richie Blackmore story Tanvir saying everyone seems to have one. I do not recall a Richie Blackmore story That no, I don't But I do remember there was a mention of todlatori in this park that you did you see that? Yes, there you go something right there So todlatori if you're watching right before you're probably at soundcheck now you got to mention Very cool very cool. Call it a todlatori What else we got we got Richie's heart attack glens parkinsons, which was sort of sad in a way right to see such a legend sort of you know Hurt by this disease or sort of less active because of this disease, right? um He doesn't like super groups He does not like and and I think this goes back to the premise of this book, you know sort of Band 101, you know, you start off in a garage You kind of work together as a gang and you kind of make it And you pay your dues, right? We're a super group. They they have no dues to pay They just have these names and they've already established themselves. So they never seem to work out I thought that was pretty cool. Well, I think you lose a lot of time the egos come into their band and they're each come in with their own manager and It's hard to get that to be a cohesive cohesive unit afterwards a lot of the time. So yeah So definitely from what we're saying in I don't know what we've been talking now for 15 minutes It'll take you, you know Few days to read this so there's I couldn't put it down Jim I literally I think it took me less than a week to read that so probably four days Yeah, that's about it. Alan. I mean, is there any there?  Nostradamus seagulls saying I absolutely love Nostradamus I think there was a bit about Nostradamus. Yep. They want to he wanted to you know, turn this into a full Broadway production right and he's still hoping that that would happen and I I mean, I love that album too. I think it's a super underrated album It's you know, it's an interesting listen. I recommend anybody going back and Listening to it again priest always did what they wanted. They sometimes Some things work some things work A little less, but at least they they didn't answer anybody and they did what they wanted to do and Nostradamus was There was two choices, right Jim Bill Kirk Bill Kurbish leads the size said it's time that you guys do your own kind of quadrophenia your own Tommy Yes, yes, and the first one forget what the first subject was but they all passed on it They said Nostradamus they can something they could stick their teeth into so And he does talk about how he'd like to see before he retires Nostradamus as a sort of Concept on stage right like the whole album But I think he's he's spoken about that in the past Okay, bfgs is saying and he talked about Dave Holland and his prison time The the only mention I remember it was Dave Holland how he got upset that there were drum machines sort of Taking over his role On ram it down So he did talk about that and he kind of said, you know, I think he kind of went away from that and I don't blame him You know, you don't want to get Tied into that No, there's no mention of that whatsoever. I mean he was just talking about Dave and his time in the band When it when it was relatable to whatever that chapter was about, right? He does talk about lead singer disease. He talks about guitar players. He talks about bass players. He talks about drummers So when he talks about drummers, he goes all the way through from Les Binks and then it was a John Hinch Originally all the way up to Scott Travis. So of course Dave Holland's mentioned there But really nothing about his his personal life really just him inside the band Uh, he just bring up one funny story about Dave was Dave bought a hotel and then he asked everybody to squirrel away their shampoo and their their soaps spoiler alert Uh, they're sure there's a lot while they were touring with Judas Priest that they could all save their hotel Amenities so that they can give it to Dave so that he can you know fill up his his hotel when they got back to Time if you're saying spill the beans. What's the funniest story in the book? It would be their first their first road manager They played a trick on him and Just the stuff that he would do on A little bit of an odd fellow, but just the stuff he would do that's that's the stuff that made me literally laugh out loud so I won't I won't get into it We don't want to spoil too much just that that that section of book is quite hilarious in fact, so Yeah, that's about it If anybody else has a last question He's a big spinal tap fan probably because spinal tap as a movie is very relatable to any touring band That's still is right. So he brings a lot of references to the spinal tap And he does say how he'd like priests to to have a vegas red residency Uh, you know, you can read the book more about that But I think that's a pretty cool idea sort of now that they're getting a little older and they have to fly everywhere And it's more difficult. Maybe If they're stationary someplace they could you know be more sort of more comfortable Less stressed and just you know do the show say two three times a week and uh, you know fans will you know Travel to vegas to watch them right or anywhere else, you know, he brings up how he's you know, he um How his voice has changed over the years and he has to You know He's into certain songs and sing certain songs certain ways because of his the aging obviously he's in his 70s and If anybody's seen priests recently, he's still unbelievable And you know costume changes when he's on stage how he Walks about he's not dancing anymore all over the stage. He kind of lurches a little bit But uh, again, uh, he's in his 70s and he's open about it very down to earth very honest book I would say not hiding anything just being truthful about you know, where they started how they started What he lived and where he's at now and what he's able and not able to do so So I would personally say that I like this book better than his last book A lot of people are saying oh another book another book This book is so worth it especially if you want to know the ins and outs Of everything in the music industry and I think rob is the perfect guy After 50 years to tell everybody what it's all about Exposed And not to say I hate it his last book, but I like this one better That's all I'm trying to say makes a perfect christmas gift or holiday gift or hodak a gift or whatever You're celebrating there you go Alan last note it's released today by the way It's released today is the first day we I mean like I said we've been biting our tongues Trying not to talk about it And today we're we're free We're finally out of the cage. We can talk about it again. It's a thoroughly thoroughly enjoyable book. So All right, that's it. Alan Thank you jim Thank you everybody for watching and by the way sword interview It's an interview report Interview report coming out thursday. It's this mass production that we did we went to the house of rock and Alan did this massive interview with the band I did a little goofing around But it's ready to go thursday 5 p.m. Eastern standard time You can watch the sword interview sword interview slash report at the house of rock. All right this thursday In anticipation of their third long awaited third album That's right. That's right third studio album. I should say third studio album. All right. Oh, here we go. We got a last question here Merciful fate interview that question has been going on and on and on If it happens it happens. That's all I'm gonna say All right. Have yourself a wonderful day everybody Thanks for tuning in


Mastinaharney Howe Silver, the lone ranger! With his faithful Indian companion, Tonto, the daring and resourceful masked rider of the planes led the fight for law and order in the early western United States. Nowhere in the pages of history can one find a greater champion of justice. Join with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. Mow the past come the thundering hoofbeats of the great horse Silver. The lone ranger rides again! On the broad top of Medicine Butte, high above the volcanic wilderness of Arizona territory, a resplendent yet terrifying tableau was taking place. Hundreds of Apache Braves crouched in a circle around a huge blazing fire, and their voices droned monotonously in a ceremonial chant as they watched two figures standing beside the fire. Chief Red Fox gazed sternly at Pyroma, the medicine man, then raised his hand and shouted for silence. Pyroma! Pyroma! Pyroma, for many moon you make medicine for Apache. You gave solemn promise that white men never come to high lands of Apache. I made that promise. Today our Braves find white devil on mountain trail. Your medicine not good. Have the Braves and their mighty Chief Red Fox lost faith in Pyroma? Yes! And I will again offer proof that I have done many times before. Let my magic robe and the sacred moccasins be brought from my teepee. Burn them all again! I bring big medicine to Pyroma.  Kizya Galkway, Jabronza! The cold shines brightly like the gleaming red eyes of a million devils. The flames are leaving tons of destruction to all but Pyroma.  Oh, Pyroma walks into the fire. Is that not proof that I and only I am favored by the fire god? This medicine is big. You adjust before sundown on the following afternoon when a lone ranger in Tonto on a trail not far from Medus Debut rained their horses to a halt.  Why stop here, Kimosabi? That flock of buzzards circling overhead are pretty low. Look, Tonto. Set him afloat. They're all through his back. And that Apache era. Poor old fellow. He probably never knew what hit him. And not far from Medus Debut, Tonto. It's a dangerous country for a man to travel alone. Clothes look like maybe him prospector. Yes, he's been dead for several hours. The way of telling who he is unless it... Oh, wait a minute. I'll go through his pockets. You find paper? Yes, it's a letter addressed to Dr. John Moffatt, Merrittville, Arizona Territory. That's no help, but there might be a signature inside. What letter say? Not much. I'll read it. It says, Dear Doc, I found the kid's mining claim, but your loco, if you think, has any gold out here. There's nothing but a lot of gray stones and Apache engines. I'll send this ahead by mail and take my time coming home with a mule. Signed your brother Ben. Apache kill'em. Maybe steal mule. Yes. At least we know his name. The name of one of his relatives. How far is Merrittville from here, Tonto? Ride one day, one night. That's too far to carry a dead man. You bury him here and then ride to Merrittville and deliver his letter. That's strange. There's generally someone at the doctor's house. There's somebody here, mister. The window is open. I'm sitting in a chair with a shotgun coming. Both of you gun-hawks. This time, you won't get inside the house. Is this the home of Dr. Moffatt? You know playing well it is. And I know who you are. But a trick coolman's all hood gang. We're not outlaws. I have a letter to deliver to Dr. John Moffatt. Is he here? Line won't get you anywhere, mister. You got anything for Doc later on the force and bamboos? All right. I think Dr. Moffatt will be anxious to get this letter from his brother. What? You mean from Uncle Ben? That's the way it's signed. What did... I mean, how do you get a letter from Uncle Ben? If you'll put down that gun, I'll tell you about it. All right. I'll turn up the lamp and you can come in the house. But remember, I'll have you both covered. Come on, Tonto. This meant I let the lamp... What? You're wearing a mask. I was right, John. Who's the engine? A friend of mine. We're not outlaws. What are you wearing that mask for? I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll put both my guns on the table over there. You do the same with your shotgun. Then we'll both be even. How about it? I never saw one of trick coolman gunslicks do a thing like that. This is a trick. I've never heard of trick coolman. Well, when you match my play, you have nothing to lose. Well, maybe you're on the square. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't notice that was a wheelchair you were in. That's all right. I had an accident. My legs won't work.  I see. Is Dr. Moffat your father? No, our Doc's just... See, what about that letter? Here. It had to be open because the man who wrote it never had a chance to mail it. Let me see. Gee, it's from Uncle Ben, all right. But Doc's on his way out there, so he'll see him. What's your name, son? Jimmy. Jimmy Burke. And Uncle Ben is... Oh, he's not my real uncle. I just call him that because he's Doc Moffat's brother. My father was killed last year, and I had an accident. So Doc Moffat and Uncle Ben adopted me. Doc's awful smart. He says if this all mine and claim a pass turns out, we'll have enough money for me to go back east and have an operation that'll fit... Uncle Ben says, hey, that claim's not so good. I'm afraid it's worse than that, Jimmy. What do you mean?  We found him on a trail near Medicine Butte. He was killed by a patches. Uncle Ben's dead? I'm sorry, Jimmy. Doc was afraid of Trig Coleman. He went out there after Uncle Ben, but... Easy, easy, steady, steady. Tell me, why did your Uncle Ben go over into the Medicine Butte country? And why did the doctor follow him? Well, I guess you could say it started about a week ago.  They were good stories about how he used to fight engines up in Colorado. Yes, sir.  Mighty tricky, too. Golly, Uncle Ben, did you have many fights with them?  And mine, one time, I was guiding some trappers up to Gunnison River. He was ambushed. Ambushed? He was like this. Hey, shucks, I wish I had some rocks here. I could string them out on the floor and show you just how it happened. Why don't we list some rocks, Uncle Ben? Pause our samples. Over there in the bottom door of the dressing room. Just a thing, I'll get it. These will work fine. I'll build them up just like that gold. See the color of it. Now look. Uncle Ben saw me how he's ambushed by engines up in Colorado. Just one of the times, Jimmy. Where'd the rocks come from? The old ore samples Pa used to have. Oh, yes. I remember your father talking about samples. Let me see. Ben, did you have these, I said? I didn't need them. I've been prospecting long enough to know real color when I see it. Jimmy's Pa could have saved himself a trouble of lugging these back. I'm not so sure. Nothing but scrub rock. You must have had them left up in twine. Look at the little pieces of string. That's exactly what I'm looking at. Where was this mine? Over towards Medicine Butte, someplace. What's the difference? Slow grade scrub or... I don't know. I've been mining close on to 40 years. Jimmy, your father left a map. Where is it? In the dresser drawer, I guess. Yeah, champion to your harsh of it. There's nobody more ignorant about mining than the Shah Boons. Even the fierce moon, brother. He and I told you a thousand times that Jimmy's Pa didn't... He's got the mine mark. It's in the valley just below Medicine Butte. Then you're going over there. Stake it out and file the claim and Jimmy's... Yeah, you look good. I tell you there's no gold there. Maybe not gold, but hurry up. Get out in the barn and saddle your mule. You're heading for Medicine Butte today. Oh, golly. Doc, do you think maybe Pa really did find something? I don't know for sure, Jimmy. This is just a hunch of mine. But for your sake, son, I hope I'm right. Doc insisted so he left that night. I see. And when did Doc follow your Uncle Ben? Well, not till the next day. That's when Trig Coleman and his gang moved in. Moved in? Yeah. You see, I was in here in the house all alone, and Doc was out making calls. All at once, Trig Coleman and Letty walked right in without knocking. They found the map, and when I started to yell, Trig hit me.  So hard I didn't wake up for almost an hour. You say he and the other outlaw found the map? Sure they did. When Doc came home and found out what had happened, he's so mad he could hardly talk. Oh, don't blame him. Then he left to trail your Uncle Ben. That's right. No, I don't know what'll happen. Doc finds Trig and left it'll be two to one. I can take care of myself here, but I can't help Doc. Don't worry about that, Jimmy. I don't know how to tell Doc you're getting along all right. You? You mean you and the engine are gonna... God, you're the funniest outlaws I've ever seen. I don't think Trig Coleman and Letty will think we're funny. We can find them. Hello. We're heading back for medicine beaut. Ah. How are you, Jimmy? Goodbye, Mr. I hope you... God. She may have just been sitting here dreaming, and they weren't real. Maybe I just imagine I've been talking to them. One, two, three, let's go. Oh, golly! The curtain falls on the first act of our Lone Ranger story. Before the next exciting scenes, please permit us to pause for just a few moments. Now we will continue our story. Although the Lone Ranger and Tonto rode west toward medicine beaut with all possible speed, they had no way of knowing that Dr. Moffat had already reached his destination. It was late afternoon when he pulled his horse to a halt in the valley below the towering natural fortress of the Apaches. Oh, oh, oh. As I remember that map, this is about the place where... Mr. Eddy, now, I just want to get off and scout around. I can't see any sign of... Yes, there is. A little lean-to over near the base of that cliff. Maybe Ben's camp in there. Ben! Oh, Ben! You can stop yelling at that shag, Doc. It's empty. Trig Coleman!   Listen to a ruler. You sent your brother out here to stake a claim. You wouldn't have done that unless... or it's a real claim. The gold claim. I don't know anything about a gold claim. You're lying. Why, I ought to... Try to persuade him, Trig. Maybe I can jog the old Coot's memory. All right, Lefty. We'll come over. Oh, who's got a old fella? This is where we buried Jimmy's uncle, Tutto. I have no idea where the mine is located. This is as good a place as any to start looking for sign. That's right. The ground hits the horses here. I'll take one side of the butte, you work along the other. I'll meet back here in about an hour. You do it. Where is it? Start talking, you, or... Twist and wet row hide around my arms may give you yellow buzzards some satisfaction. But it can't make me tell something I don't know. Trig, I've got an idea. Let's take the old gold over to that empty mine. The real shaft must be somewhere nearby and he might tell us. All right. There's nothing to lose. Get on your feet, Grandpa. We're going for a walk. Here we are, Trig. All right, Sawbones. We're giving you another chance. Where's the gold mine from here? I don't know. This is a place where you hadn't marked on a map, but it's a fake. And you know where the other one is because your brother ain't here. He must have found it. I hope he found something besides a couple of snakes like you two.  I'm good at... What was that? I don't know. Sounded like something hit their tree over there. I'll see when... What the... Engine's Trig. Apache's got him. Got him down before it's too late. Skins, I'm glad of it. They're not crippled kids, Coleman, so you haven't got a chance. None of us have. Capture White Fuller. Best of all, there must have been at least a hundred braves in that party. We're lucky we didn't arrive here a few minutes sooner. Apache have camp top of bluff. Take prisoners up there. You think them Fullers we search for? I'm sure of it. The elderly man looks something like the man we buried. There must be Dr. Moffat. The two are probably Trig Coleman and Lefty. First time we see Apache take prisoners. Yes, I know. I generally take scalps and leave dead men behind. There must be some reason for... Take a look at that mine, Fuller. This gold mine, Fullers try to find? I suppose so. Jimmy's uncle Ben said there was no gold here. He was an old prospector. He couldn't have been fooled by... Wait here, Tato. I'm going to look in the shaft. Only a few feet deep. Nothing there except loose rocks. Here's a piece. That not look like gold ore. It isn't. I can't think of any reason why Dr. Moffat will send his brother out here to take a claim unless he... Wait a minute. He's not savvy. This is ore. What kind of ore? There's no time to think about it now. We've got to get back to the horses and find a trail to the top of Medicine Butte. In the Apache camp atop Medicine Butte, flames of the ceremonial fire threw their weird light on a wild and frenzied scene. The measured beat of tom-toms became faster and faster as hundreds of half-naked savages circled the fire in a dance of death. Hiroma, the medicine man, urged them on by pointing to the bound figures of the three prisoners who lay on the ground before him. Suddenly, Chief Red Fox signaled for the dance to stop. Moah! Manoa! O mighty warriors of the Apache, we dance tonight to honor the great fire god. Fire god! The fire god who speaks to us through the lips of Hiroma. We honor fire god. It is good that we pay him homage by sacrifice. The sacrifice of blood!  But first, that the fire god is a friend of the Apache. The magic robe and the sacred magazine. Routing in the shadows at the edge of the camp and beyond the circle of firelight, the lone ranger in Tonto watched the scene before them. Medicine man made big talk.  Burn him. Looks at way, Toto. I don't know how we can save them. Our guns wouldn't be any match for hundreds of Apaches. Two of those thullish crooks. Maybe better them die. No human being deserves to be burned alive. He must have a look. Medicine man put on light coat. He'm gonna walk in fire. That's one medicine man's trick I've never seen before. He walked through fire. You see? Big magic. There must be some reason for. Although there is. I think I know the answer. Maybe there's time to say the lies of Dr. Mockham most. I mean to not know what you mean. I'll explain it later. Go to the horses, Tonto. Our camp gear is trapped back in the saddles. Bring one of our blankets. A white one. Hurry. Me bring it. Here. Here. Good. Now help me tear off two pieces. So that when we wad them up, they'll look like moccasins. Look. Medicine man. Take off coat now. You see him? Yes. I've been hoping he'd do that. He doesn't want any of those Apache braves to examine his magic coat too closely. And take coat back to TP. That's our chance. Be not savvy.   And this light you'll pass for an Apache brave. Now sneak around the other side of the camp. The medicine man asked for his magic coat again. You bring him this blanket. But what you do, Kimusavi?  Hurry, Tonto. There's no time to lose. For his sacrifice, put the white devils into the fire. Oh, wait. Wait. I bring a message.  Who is angry and speaks through my mask is angry because the Apache listens to the false words of Pyroma. He lies.  His magic coat will no longer keep him safe from the flames. He lies. I have proved my medicine. Then prove it again. White man and mask is full. Prove it, Pyroma. It shall be done. My robe, the magic robe. He bring coat. Oh. I shall prove again that... Just a minute. The robe will burn. I'll throw it into the fire. Pyroma has no fear. His medicine is strong. Is that so?  They burn. Fire consumes them. Oh, it cannot be.  Don't you, Chief Red Fox? Oh. Oh. Pyroma's medicine is gone.  Man with mask speaks truth. There is but one way to appease the god of fire. Release these prisoners.  I promise you he won't be angry.  Thanks. I don't know who you are, but thank heaven you're here. We owe our lives to you. You sure fool the Reds.  Try walking the edge of the mesa. Don't run. Just keep walking. Yes, sir. It was really a close shave. I thought we were gone. I never figured we'd be free like this again. You won't be free long. You and Frank Coleman are going to jail. What? Listen, you can't set a knife. No, you won't. No, master, I'll get away with that. Take them to the shack and I'll ride into town and bring out a sheriff. I don't mean to seem curious, mister, but who are you? You know these two armies are crooked, yet you save our lives. Who I am isn't important, Dr. Moffat. Not nearly as important as the money you tried to get for Jimmy's operation. You mean the mine. I never did get a chance. I'm sure your guess was right. The medicine man proved it. Crystalite. Isn't that what the mine is? You're right, doctor. What it is, crystalite, crystalite ore, pure asbestos. It's a shame little Jimmy's poor couldn't have lived to know that an asbestos mine is almost as good as gold. Your brother is dead, doctor. He was killed by the Apaches. Tato and I buried him. We found a letter addressed to you. And Jimmy told us the story. I'm sorry about Ben, but I'm glad for Jimmy. So am I. Tato will wait here with you, doctor. I'll send out a sheriff to take care of Coleman and Lefty. Adios. Wait. Wait a minute. I want to say... Well, go on. He wears a mask. He can't be an outlaw. Tato, can you tell me who he is? Ah, him. Lone Ranger. I'll do that. What you have just heard is a copyrighted feature of the Lone Ranger Incorporated.