Okay, welcome. How are you feeling? Good. Pretty good. Has your slush been? It's very exciting. Busy? A lot of people. Akram, you were here on stage as well. Yes. Yes. I just came back from the forest as well this morning. Okay. Yeah. They took me on a trip to the Finnish forest. That sounds nice. Very cool. Yeah, they're really cool. Yeah. Okay, so Akram and Hugo, you are both entrepreneurs. Having witnessed all of these pitches and seen researchers who have amazing ideas, how do you feel as entrepreneurs, what does it take to take your research into a business? What kind of things does a scientist have to think about or what kind of perspectives do they need to open if they want to turn it into a business? So I believe that not every scientist should be an entrepreneur and not every scientist could be an entrepreneur, but definitely if we want to have and to invent the next big leap in innovation and progress, it's not by doing the new food delivery app and definitely we need some scientific background. I would say that the researchers and the entrepreneurs are both complementary. It could be the same person, but it could be complementary as well. So the scientist is here to explain and gain knowledge on specific topics while the entrepreneur is here to make a solution for people. So I'm not a scientist. I'm actually an engineer, but I worked with scientists to develop the product. Some scientists could become entrepreneurs or they can partner with entrepreneurs. And what is really interesting is when you, as an entrepreneur, you are obsessed about the users, the solution and the product. So for example, we developed a sleep product for the consumer. It was based on a discovery where we saw that brain stimulation could enhance the quality of deep sleep. But then when you start to put that into the perspective of a product for real users using it every day, then you see all the difficulties of making that work. And I think these kind of two topics are really complementary to make a real solution that can bring something really new to people. Thank you. I know, Akram, that you have also worked as a professor. How do you see the difference between being an entrepreneur and academic? Yeah, it's a very different ecosystem. I was a professor and, you know, being in academia, I saw firsthand how, you know, academics think. I was one of them.  Those are the incentive drivers, right, to publish as many papers as you can. And you fall in love with your science and your technology. It's very different than being an entrepreneur where you actually have to make something work and actually solve a problem, you know, provide a solution to a customer and find what that pain point is for that customer. So, you know, there are two very different worlds. One of the reasons I left was because I really wanted to do something that I felt could make a bigger impact. That's not to say that scientists and academics don't do that, but it's just in a different way, right? So I think that's the main difference. Lou, did you have a comment? Yeah, at first I'm very glad to hear two founders say things like, not every professor or scientist could be a good entrepreneur because it's easier that a founder understands it versus that the investor had to tell it to the founder. And my personal experience, I was a trained material scientist and did a science-based healthcare company, and now is an investor investing in healthcare and also deep-tech innovation. So sometimes I found I prefer a founder to have a strong technical background, even a scientific research background. But meanwhile, I saw this, I won't call it misunderstanding, it's the gap of the mindset what is the right entrepreneur with the right researcher. Like for lots of scientists, their whole career is looking for something best, the highest efficiency. But for something could work, not only the technology has to be better, faster, and also has to be cheaper, has to integrate with the industry. And I talked to founders saying that you have to work on something people need rather than people like. People like super fancy, super cool product, but not necessarily they're going to pay for it. So first I'm very glad to hear the founder say that and also I hope more scientific background founder could understand the difference and be able to change their mindset before they make the decision to become an entrepreneur. If we think about a company at the very beginning of their career, so to say, is the best person to sell a science-based company, the scientist herself, or do they need a business person to be kind of the sales person to not go in so deep into the topic? You've probably heard a lot of pitches from the companies. How does it differ? I would say not necessarily you really have someone to work on the BD because I understand founder always think that I need someone with a totally different background, a sales person. But to be honest, most of the science-based company at the earlier stage, you don't really have a working product to sell. Most important, I think the founder has to find someone out themselves could work on the strategy together, like to tell the full story to the investor like now I'm working on this product. What is the true commercial application of this technology? Sometimes the science background founder always talk about how awesome the technology is. Try to sell the technology itself, but technology not always make money. So you need to have the numbers, show the number to the investor and the founder could calculate the number and he could work with someone have the strategic mindset to think about what is a valuable sustainable business model for this technology. What is a good commercialization application for this technology? I think that would be good enough. Not necessarily some professional sales person charge super high price or some BD guy at the early stage. How are these roles given out a dream, for example? How do the scientists and business people work together? Again, I think it depends on people. I don't like the world saying that a scientist should be with a sale guy. Nobody likes a sale guy, you know? But I would say that one of the quality as a CEO of a science-based company is to have empathy, understand users and put users prior to technology or science. Sometimes a scientist can, sometimes a scientist can't. In my case my co-founder is a chief science officer and now the chiefs technology officer so we have scientists but generally the CEO should have in mind very well the product, the user and the use case. Personally, I think science is extremely important. Deep technology is extremely important if you want to unleash really new innovation for people's life but this is not the end goal. The end goal is about user usage and if this person can get that it could definitely play that role. We don't need a sale guy. It's not about selling, it's about understanding your product, understanding your market, understanding your business model and then communicate that to people. Sometimes it can play that role or sometimes it's associated with someone that will have the responsibility of the product, the application, and in my case, again I'm not the scientist, I'm engineer and I'm owning the product, the marketing strategy. I have a chief science officer and I have a chief technology officer but obviously in that case the sale guy shouldn't be obsessed too much about only sales or product. It should be deeply committed to the scientific and the technological questions because the complex aspect when you start a company or a scientific discovery is you need to find a use case. Generally when you start a company you identify your need and then you build a solution but most of the time when it's about taking an innovation in the lab out to the consumer you are doing the opposite way. It's especially important to have someone which is looking at what can we really do and what can we build that will be really useful and just not nice to have for the users. I'm wondering though because we have research that is focused on delivering solutions like applied research and then we have basic research which is more about finding new things and really innovative thinking without having that target audience or market that you're trying to reach. How do these two kind of come together when it comes to science-based companies? Akram, you have probably been kind of in both. I think basic research is really the domain of academia and I think that's one of the problems today that I see at least is that people in academia are trying to do too much applied research without really understanding how entrepreneurship works how business works and so academics really in my opinion should stick and focus on basic research to make the discoveries as you mentioned that can then spin off and turn into companies and I don't think there's a formula there's obviously no formula to this and that's one of the beautiful things about being an entrepreneur and also one of the hardest things it really depends on the personality so if you're a founder who's very scientific and really loves the science you can still be the CEO as long as you can raise money and you can sell the vision and find the users and the product market fit as you mentioned and then there's also from the business side too that works as well that person can come and help the founder and be the CEO and build the company that way but I think in the ideal case you want a founder who understands the science can also sell the business and they're going to have the passion and the drive to grow it and so I think as long as they understand that basic science leave that in the university if you have a discovery you've got to quickly turn it into a viable business you've got to actually find a market or application for it don't fall in love with the discovery because at the end of the day it's survival to fit us out in the business world I'm saying that an academic should kind of decide already early in their career whether they want to go into starting a business or whether they want to stay in academia and continue their research one of the things that I've seen with my friends who have been through academia and then started companies is that sometimes the professor that they worked with will want half the equity in the business which is crazy, they have a full time job they're working in a university they're doing research they shouldn't take half your equity if you're a founder and you've discovered something and you're going to devote 100% of your time to build the business you should have the lion's share of the equity not your professor because he or she has their own day job and building a company is super hard you can't do two things I used to be a professor and when I started Matrix I realized really quickly that there's one or the other and I decided I'm going to put all my effort into Matrix and I left academia there's just no way you can do both at least I haven't found a person that could do both successfully I would say that not necessarily you can I totally agree that as a professor as a scientist it's hard to run in a full time company meanwhile full time become a professor but meanwhile as a professor at Stanford alumni there's a concept we talk about the scientist could consider become a pie shape talents so basically on one hand you still have focus on the academia for lots of professors at Stanford they have the track of the research that focusing on publish the top tier paper and focusing on the technology maybe you're going to be using the next 10 or 20 years investing into the future but they also have other research project based on the interest of the student kind of collaborate a lot with the industry cooperation like Apple sponsored or Facebook sponsored then they are focusing on the solution related with the true use case in the real life when the technology is ready there are always tech transfer office pattern office at university either professor choose to spin off the company finding someone from the industry to run the company instead of running it themselves that's very important all the tech transfer office in the university they're going to put together a team maybe student from the GSB from engineering department they put together this funding team but importantly I agree with him professor could not be the majority shareholder of the company if he's not full time running the company because from the investor perspective I'm investing not only the company but also the founder if the majority shareholder or decision maker of the company is a part time affiliate with the company I'm investing in my capital and my resources for the company I found more and more professors than for although the affiliate was like so many company recently I was talking with a professor a while side from Harvard he has more than 12 companies like almost of the billion dollar exit the way he work on it is not he was running it he has the company spin off maybe the professor only take less than 20 or 10% of the share meanwhile they have this very good group and the company that research group continue to do the research potentially affiliate with the startup, act as an R&D center for the startup, but they got the government funding, they got the NSF funding, meanwhile they published the top-tier paper. When the technology is ready for commercialization, they did exclusive licensing deal with the startup company. So that's a very good and healthy sustainable business model between the scientific research and startup. And also for those for the scientists or professor, they don't need to vary too much that had to make a early decision in my career whether I could only be a scientist or entrepreneur. They could still try out on the both way, but meanwhile has to try it out with the smart model and the smart partnership. Let me just add and I totally agree and let me just add that oftentimes when you're doing basic science and you make a discovery and the company gets started based on that discovery, you know nine times out of ten what you started with will end up changing into something totally different, right and so that's what I mean like you know the entrepreneur that's devoting most of their time you know they need to be incentivized to you know you know keep grinding and keep persevering because the initial technology is never going to be this you know what it looks like at the end right so... If I may ask you Hugo do you have an experience of this with dream that you have had science that you have had to kind of take to another direction at some point? So what happened at dream is we started with a scientific discovery and the two first years of the company we have been focused on the technological development. So we had this idea of stimulating the brain at night to enhance deep sleep but then to get that to the consumer it was mostly an engineering work so make EEG so the measurement of the brain activity available to the consumer so it was a technical question so we kept contact with scientists but during the two first years it was really focusing on generating and then when we went out with the first version of the product we started to have new scientific questions we are generating tons of data today we have one of the largest EEG repository in the history we have more than 600,000 nights of EEG so what do we do with that data what kind of knowledge can we can we do and so now we have 25 laboratories and hospitals all around the world working with us on these questions and so now we have a scientific director we have a scientific team and we have collaboration working on that so in our case and I think it could be that you know you have the scientific discovery then it's about implementation execution maybe the scientific funder is less relevant at the beginning but maybe it can gain back some weight in the future and then you know have maybe a full-time position later on in the history of the company yeah that's I'm also wondering in a company for example when when you Lou meet these companies and I know that for an investor the team is everything when you hear about the pitches and it's the people who really make it how much do the academic credentials play a role when starting or funding a science-based company is it also the amount of papers or the years you have behind you or is it some other characteristic that you're looking for when you see a prominent science-based company yeah so especially for the because my focus is basically deep tech and healthcare like industrial automation network technology most of this company I invested really required the founder has a strong technical background so for us when we evaluate a company not only funder is important there are no matter technical background scientific background is important too because one tricky part about doing science-based the startup is although yes technology could be disruptive to the industry but meanwhile if the founder does not have comprehensive or enough understanding of technology they may do something has a wrong timing or maybe just play with the concept for example recently we heard the news about this gene editing baby right and I feel for for people really really in this industry they know that the gene editing is fade far away from commercialization but the people of founder don't really have enough scientific background they will think okay this is something we need to try so from that perspective we even pray for founder really have a comprehensive understanding so they know which level which states of the technology took we use now and they could prepare for the future with more frontier technology but they know the time is now right and when we talk with the founder besides their their understanding of technology another important thing is as back to our questions is same as we said earlier also the other two found their mention their understanding about product product market fit for example we talk about artificial intelligence for the past few years right but AI is not a new thing AI was super hot back in 10 years ago in Silicon Valley and we have super awesome product at that time but how come we did not see any huge AI company right now it's because at that time they did not really find a very good product market fit the technology was kind of mature but technology application cost so pretty high market integration cost was high and the people that's not really see the need why we're using AI instead of like the existing solution so the timing was not right the partner market fit was not ready there's no window for the commercialization so now we see lots of the opportunity came out and another thing it was to have tons of data be generating every day which prepare for the AI application so that's one example that not only they have to understand technology they have to understand the market trend then they understand now is the right timing for us to pull this product into the market and the which industry to choose to start with is also important for example still with AI if you do lots of consumer-facing application I sure lots of people their experience with consumer-facing AI is AI is not smart at all right but now we see lots of application for AI in healthcare AI for industry automation truly show the full capability our advantage of AI so for founder it's also important that he could show me that why I choose this industry to start with why penetrate into this market first because we saw the potential for this technology to be go with the market to be mature along the way so that's not only that's a thing we also want to see from the founder and other than that we also want to see the founder has a right to understand of the leadership put together the good team because one thing I found very interesting with the technical background founder is for example founder was a scientist was a professor they thought okay I'm gonna make it happen I'm gonna work on the technology product all day long once I start a company but unfortunately once you become the CEO your full-time job in the first two years is fundraising recruiting and strategy nothing relate with the technology the first is the technology so whether the founder could find some co-founder either take the role as a CEO I'll take the role as a CTO to help on the product it's also very important yeah okay so it sounds like you need to have a great understanding of what you're getting at if you're going to be an entrepreneur as a scientist what kind of things do you think we need to bring academia and the business world especially the startup world closer together I think so I was at the University of Michigan and they actually did a phenomenal they had a great way of building an accelerator program within the university for spin-offs from from the laboratories I thought that was incredible the Michigan also was the first university before Stanford believe it or not to actually take some of the money from their their their fund and put it into startup companies based of based out of research from the university so that was really forward-looking and then the in the in the States we have government programs like the NSF National Science Foundation that I was actually started entrepreneurship type of courses to help seed professors to start their own companies to teach them about entrepreneurship that sort of thing so I think you know these types of things are really have been I think really helpful to help academics kind of transition into becoming entrepreneurs one last quick comment from Hugo on the matter yes I think it's really important my case the companies based in France as you might hear is my accent and in our country most of the research is funded by the government and grants from the government which means that the salary of a researcher is between 1500 and 2500 euros per month what I'd stand for you can get probably a salary around 10k and it's important to say that because if we want to keep the best doing research we need to put more resources and the government can't fund everything it's impossible right and we can see that right now so I believe that if we can bridge the academic world the research world and the industry world it would be perfect but right now we need more business people we need more people that are use of building companies working in laboratories so you have like specific division of the laboratories which are looking at potential collaborations and right now it doesn't work so I think it's it's it's really important because you know sometimes we can hear we need to build the next Silicon Valley for France or for Europe I think it's completely dumb we're not going to build the next Google but maybe we can build the next basics right because we're really good at aerospace in France so let's take that kind of problems but right now some researchers believes that you know entrepreneurs and companies sometimes can be evil because it's about money and you have people working in the laboratories for business which are not good at business and if you change that definitely it will be good because the success that you creates from the value the valuation of innovation in the lab can then fund the research and I think it's especially important okay thank you so much thank you thank you all of you thank you to our panelists thank you for a great discussion thank you we'll continue later on at the studio behind the stage


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Welcome back. It's still the breakfast and plus TV Africa and we slide on next to off the press where we review the front pages of a major Daily's and of course, sir We reviewed that with an analyst at this month and a half GD Johnson chief lecturers and Institute of journalism joining us Good morning to you JJ All right, let us let it just start time with some the nation newspaper this morning and then make him from pager ACF leaders South should stop issuing threats over zoning. That's the lead story on the nation newspaper with the rider there It's president or nothing says or her knees a Girl of the days when novice a felt black mid and intimidated by threats of restructuring succession or succession Breakup or breakdown of Nigeria above the masted a novel story making the rounds on the nation newspaper OPEC raises Nigeria's production quota by 19,000 mega PD Abuja Kedona trend service set to regime no name and no I NIN no ticket payment of helicopter landing fee begins on Monday Senator Bashi relates for you tall as re-election campaign or the stories on the nation newspaper this morning Nigeria u.s. Others lead in gas flourin says world bank report a PC presidential form 17 aspirin so far still counting All right here in in consumers suit against multi-choice Suffers set back those are all of the stories on the nation newspaper quickly will move on next year the punch Nice paper are making Barma headline this morning 2023 consensus plan unsettles a PC protesters won against Imposition with several riders leading that particular story aspirin's number heats 30 12 peak forms. I'm also on four six-point agenda proteinable group wants NWC VP supporters targets ticket via consensus Zoning you have no monopoly of threat ACF replies sadden us I carry the loom All the stories federal government to take over ebonion medical sciences varsity says Buhari customs intercept 12 trucks of imported poisonous rise Now Lebanese Detained for crushing Lagos women victim undergoes seven are surgery rights violators can't get asylum UK tells iPope others Elas a fever case 140 ncdc alerts health workers Forex remittances crushed by 48 percent a mid-dollar shortage that's attributed to the central bank of Nigeria Also above the must-have of the punch newspaper subscribers reject 40 percent tariff hike vow to oppose Nigeria nine orders account for 75 percent global glass-faring Flaring that's a code into the World Bank tenable behind some will do GAC insists this controversy surrounds second him bid above that one federal government hikes electricity Tariff consumers condemn past sector privatization and Those are the main stories on the front page of the punch newspaper. We'll move on next to the Nigerian Tribune Why APC power brokers plots to jettison zoning? push from northern candidate gathers momentum South has wrote for 13 years in the fourth Republic ACF No, you will politician should run as vice-president candidate candidate in 2023 or her naysay Most of the class presidential ambition or she about Joe. No money back hurry peak nomination forms NERC approves new electricity tariff COVID-19 killed almost 15 million people in two years. That's a code into the World Health Organization 15% levy again Claring agents abandoned vehicles at him Ken Man bags death sentence for killing a traditional ruler in a kitty state No going back on June 3 deadline. I know it reminds political parties and Also making front page on the Nigerian Tribune this morning Asso strike Nigerians express anger as vice-chancellors wife's plan to attend cause in Turkey PDP adjusts election timetable shifts neck meeting LG congresses to hold May the 10th Suspense over APC Southwest leaders meeting with tinibu or she about Joe others customs says 7,250 Bucks of poisonous rice imported from India Those are the main stories on the front page of the Nigerian Tribune and finally, let's take a look at the daily independent newspaper Electricity tariff seems to be Taken front bone across a major on newspapers this morning a daily independent aptly captions it this way consumers kick as NERC Okay's tariff increase for this cause I see PC boss backs non-conviction based asset recovery in fight against corruption I've not endorsed any aspirant in Delta or Coa Admit some persons attempted to hijack delegates list Southwest ABC leaders meeting ex-governors alleged bias call for postponement Above the mast head 2023 or her name zeroes our vice presidential slot for southeasterners Fund education sign our agreement to preserve Nigeria's future as who tells Buhari Sano Nass resumed talks with federal government over strike On the red strip just below the paper 2023 presidency or she bad Joe Bakker finally peak forms and Those are the main stories are on the daily independent. Let's bring on GD Johnson chief lecturer Nigeria Institute of John Lytton Thanks for joining us again JJ Yes, I'm doing yes, I am so JJ Let's just talk that several issues to discuss on the front pages of this papers But let's start with the daily independent and the elite story this morning is them consumers are kick as neck Okay's tariff increase for this cause what is your reaction to that? Well I Just beneficiary of the service amongst the sedatives the other members of those top simple service and workers in ministry of power in Any housing there are pain you get to tie it will pay You enjoy these aspects of the office that reason by national assembly Let by Senate president and the cost in Nigeria represented Make a policeman with respect to DSP Not increasing their target, but they seem quiet to increase your target The year-end of widows wants to increase your target. Everybody and this body Finally comes from on the cities and we see them This is coming up by the people and for the people I cannot imagine if for example in my community And we are in town with you. Do you guys provide us with electricity? And the person will have the option to come to us three times in 18 months to tell us That is going to increase time and you will be the action of the good day So the people are related to represent us. They are actually not represent us They are just protecting the interest and they are giving an opportunity to work as running business to respect us Those in business want to mark my profit. No doubt about that. However Those that we are putting please and we will do to us. Elected and appointed. Most of the time that they are representing the people. The most protect the interest of people. So that's why DSP can get away with it. That's why this cause can get away with it. And that's why The entire concept of this The entire concept of two In 30 years we will increase the tariff. We will base the body. I'm not sure that there is anything that I use for the to buy To buy the jad car Or a JJ if I have to bought him as regards them the issue of the telecoms Just yesterday it was reported all over the news that they are increasing the tariff some call rate and SMS charges by 40% They are alleging high cost of diesel and other operational cost as well as the various Insecurity challenges, which have actually be devil to the operations and you know them base stations Would you really say that and they are in order if they are actually reviewing their costs as a result of this various high cost of them production Now just in the high cost of When you are making tremendous profit What do they give back to Nigeria society? Like I do everybody operating in business. Just look at their bottom line. Just look at their return on business and look at the profit They declare every year And we are proud to this year that they have a major disruption and everybody is just gone. So he Those factors I are taking Into consideration. So you should be you should be the consumer That should be at the end of the world There is a man since that is the consumer is the king but not in Nigeria because there are no consumer interest group Those that have elected those that are in the issue of communication those in Nigeria communication can do those in in Nigeria electric Let's see if it will be For the all of them They are not a business Interest what I hope what I hope excuse now if you are operating in the Intel concept Oh, and you know the power center is a major sub-sector that why are they not made investment in the power center? Why are they not made investment in the other sector? Why are they not contribute money to further comment to support the security issue Nigeria? I recall it because when I remember it was what's in the job and that's all the major company's operating because Come on come on with the labor security form. So what are these people doing in terms of your social responsibility In terms of their philanthropic and duties in terms of assisting and helping government to provide Leave it for other other sectors that are that are affecting There are Business All right, thank you, Jim Day Johnson for that particular comment Let's stay with that daily independent. There are other stories. I would love for us to review before we move on to other papers Southwest APC leaders meeting the ex-governors are a legend bias and call they are calling for postponement And from what we hear the vice-president Professor Yamio Shiba Joe may not be attending Before In Lagos house Principal aspirant is a godfather of Lagos feet So come to that meeting if you have play politics, you know the type of meeting they are calling Nobody if I if I may consult and or Remember any of the aspirants Team I'll tell you not to attend because it's working to get some they will come to that meeting and you see Okay So you think the issue is actually the that of location Lagos And Everybody can see that you can come for a meeting where you can come for a meeting a meeting where the people that are calling for the meeting I've shown some level of bias What about meeting are you calling for there's no worship and you attend they attend that meeting You didn't put the meeting in a picture Didn't put it in In the state Government government but you put it in Lagos house We are guys the government because it has only showed its preference for a presence as well.  And they said at the meeting, after three hours extensive deliberation, and there was this thing going on around that it is a scheme of staff and former commissioner for two terms that they wanted to use before that they would find and then they had this meeting and then at that meeting, it was a three hour meeting and the governor Nassir Aleghen asked Senator Oba suddenly to pick the nomination form for the governor and then the good and good and prior to the nomination was asked to pick the nomination form for the senator last year. So it was allocated in position and at three hours extensive deliberation. So everybody had to bear his aspiration. And one of the reports, someone said we have to follow the Malam because the Malam is the leader and the widow of the leader is the widow of other. So this is what we are calling you. You want to ask everybody to cover that up? All right. So why can't they go just imagine they are taking the meeting to Asura and for one of the meeting was still in Asura. And as a vice president we use his own office too. So don't worry I'll provide you with that discussion and then we will have this meeting. All right today Johnson, let's also move on let's live on the APC Southwestern meeting for one moment. The APC is still in the news under Nigeria in Tribune this morning. Why APC power broke has plugged to Jettison zoning. It's as though we have not heard the last of this issue of zoning. There are some writers there which are very interesting. Push for Northern candidate gathers momentum. South has ruled for 13 years in the Fourth Republic. That's according to the Iowa Consultative Forum. Let's catch a reaction. This issue of zoning Jettison 8, the push for South East and South South Presidency. What are your thoughts really on this particular issue? Well it's this we may be planning on the call for the structure to be stronger. Whatever, whatever the outcome of 2023 elections, I think I'm going to be dissimilar. Whatever the outcome of 2023 elections because they really care. I wish you could join me in this conversation because I recall the appearance on the sister station program we told in the in the in the in the in the moon towards 20, 20, 19 election. And the exact event was that oh, they should not be going to continue. They should this is that because the power will come to itself. I asked him this question which I'm saying now. I don't know whether when I'm saying politicians don't see they are they are blinded by blinded by their solution. I say who said power is coming to the south? That is now in the 1999 question. But what I've seen of the political landscape that the modern political enemies will not want power to come to itself. That is and I'm going on it. The PDB will present the presidential candidate in 2023. That's towards 20, 20, 19 elections. And then you will see a movement from ABC to PDB from the north supporting the first line in the movement in 2015, 2014 when you have movement from the north of PDB to ABC so that ABC will retain the power in the north. So it is very clear and it is very and I know this game. The reason why I love it is that if you become clearer to the political class, I am told by kids and kids that call themselves the progressive in the south, in the south west for example. That you have to see with themselves if they say BC is a progressive party. I told them tell BC that they said the conservative ideology of the Nigerian political class. And I asked them then in 2015, when they give the power, that I'm looking forward to them ensuring that 37 SCP will be gone. And he said in the future that they will have the power of the 1999 constitution as amended. I'm looking forward to them doing the structure in which they all have to do. They have what they are telling in between their legs even their leader. They don't even have to say within the party that they enjoy they have to be able to do it. We have seen the images of the PM on post office, whether in PDB or ABC. We have tried to take power within the section of this country. And I'm saying the people are there. The people are there. They sound and they're not central and they sound who you do. And they do not listen and not listen. And they take the president. All right, Gidej Jensen. All right, Gidej Jensen, in the wake of all of this, you know the APC and of course trying to jettison and zoning. They have actually asked you know the politicians not to accept the slots or from vice and presidency. How do you see all of this playing out in the mathematics and of course in the game of numbers as the politicians do? Well it's not for us. It's not for us to say nobody should accept. But it's for them to come up with the quality what's stopping all this order. For example, I'm saying that we have been unfair but not allowing this out is to have a shot and the presidents have said it. If we use this term as a term principle and the principle of rotational presidency between the North and the South and then leave this surplus and have a shot of eight years. It's unfair. It's injustice. And I've just said for anybody to aspire to become a president in APC that's the truth for the South West. That's not but the truth. Those who should have first shot would be the South East and then followed by the South. In a sense, not even a single president should be a presidential nomination from and that's all you have to say. If that's why it's not dominant in APC. But in APC, you have them declined, left right and said that. What you have killed in all of going is the world's the South West so that one of the southern part of this country is on ethical, is on fair his own goals on. So as far as I'm listening to his concern, I'm listening to people who don't speak about ECN, they do not speak about social, cultural issues and political issues. They're talking about vice presidents. But they want to accept the nomination and they're going to kill the president. It may leave the nomination to either their third or fourth or fifth level. It may leave the nomination to the work of the participants. They provide assistance so it can get access as the principal of politics that we do in Nigeria is divided down and it's going to go round. So they would all get to meet. We need to know, that's the principle of fairness, equity and justice. It should be south east version, that should be accomplished between the south east and the south south. You know, the argument of the north, saying that the south, west has been the precedence, then we should go to military regime and talk about the number of years that the north is, as I don't know to use that strategy, that's what we deserve. The number of years that you have, military ago stayed from the north, we should go to that and analyze that. And then we go to, when we have the first precedent, the first precedent we have in this nation, Waseo Shagari, executive president, Waseo Shagari, he ruled for four years. So you have that with the north too. You don't admit it. You don't admit it to 1999 today. That's applying the principle of reductionism. So we won't take that from anybody. And then if that's the argument, then let everybody pray to your tent or his tent, because every aspect of our national ally is controlled by some certain sectional interest. And if it goes up there, if it goes up there, you don't need two regions to become the president. All you need to do is want to fund you for the exclusion to become the president. And that's it. And who says the north is united? Who sees it? All right. All right, Gidej Janssen, let's move on to the punch newspaper. Just yesterday, the media was awash with news, some have described it as fake news, of the national leader of the APC. That's the former governor of Lagos, Sita Shuadju, Ahmed Bola, Tinibu, not supporting the second term ambition of the incumbent governor. That's Babaji Desongu. But the punch just captured it this way. Tinibu, behind Sonwu, Lujia insists as controversy surrounds second term bid. Gidej, your comment. All right. I'll start. I'll start. Let me take that again. Let me take that again. Okay. Can you hear me, Gidej? Can you hear me, Gidej? Now, for governor of Lagos, it's a body outside of the APC's control. And nobody can decide who becomes governor of Lagos, Sita Shuadju, on the democratic nature of how they run their face in Lagos. Now, and then when you translate that to the national life, this same center of people will be completed. So if you are the governor advisory committee in Lagos, deciding who becomes governor of Lagos. And so you have the presidential advisory committee in Nigeria, for those who decide who becomes the president. So when the presidential advisory committee where they sit and they say you can't run or you can't run, but do you go back to Goro? All right. I will try and reconnect. Gidej Johnson will seem to be having an audio issue with connecting with him. There are other stories that I will need to talk about. For instance, the issue of poisonous rice being imported to the country from India, all of that are actually also making headlines across some various newspapers this morning. You know, there are other interesting stories on the punch on newspaper. For instance, Nigeria man orders account for 75% global glass or gas flaring. All right. Gidej, do we have you back? Yeah, I can hear you, Justin. Yeah, we can hear you. Go ahead, please. Okay. So like I said, if there is GST in the United States, there's PAC in Abu Dhabi, the presidential advisory committee that decide who becomes, and I can tell you the members of the presidential advisory committee. One, one is, one, two, I mean, one is in Abu Dhabi, one is from Tarawa, and then the principal one as I talk now is sitting in Asura. So if, if you have the GST in Abu Dhabi, it's in Abu Dhabi as well. So the people in Lagos should not stop completing, and there are, and there are aides to stop completing it. When you want to do consensus arrangement in, in, in Abu Dhabi, because in Lagos, we have always done consensus arrangement from GAC and not related on democratic point that was instigated. There has to, there has to, from the APBC first structure constitution, or from the communist structure in, in, in Lagos, what they also instigate to truncate their mission on people that have aspirations to become governors in Lagos and to, and to go to the, the, the, the time teach of the governor of Lagos, the politics. So, but I'll let you in. Just supposed to just the food, your arms are Kimber, just watch things. Alright, so, but then what, what should the electorate be doing there? Since you you have rightly and aptly said that that particular process is undemocratic. Should they just sit and watch a Kimbo as a thing, so just I'm decided for them? Well, you see, you see, what we have witnessed, I've said it over time, just in this country public power does not belong to you. Because the structure of the party system, the party system are controlled by the money box. And the money box dictate what happens at the party. Now there's no truly internal democracy within the parties. They just write the names of the ex-coop. You see the way they go about picking the ex-coops of the various political parties. How do you do that? They are internal conventions. You will see that there's no democracy. So in 1832, that's why in Cardinal State, Elephant would determine the country's success. That's why in Lincoln State, some people will see that God has said, I will tell people that cannot aspire and that cannot aspire. I have had friends, I have had people that have won parlorists and that their name is stopped to take from the parlorists which they won. The records are there. It's just that we have some measure of facility when it comes to investigating journalism, when it comes to the political landscape. In Nigeria, the stories are there. They are commonplace stories on the streets, on how the parties are wrong, on how the parties are structured with respect to internal democracy within the party. So you control, if you control the intelligence, if you control the ex-coop, you lie fictitious on the ex-coop, on the key of the election. You just put the names of your prunis and you will tell your prunis what they need to go and do. In the past, power belongs to the trust. They say politics is not good. Politics is not good. Politics is bad. Is it not in Borilon or is it not in Asuwa or Nehri? In all these common houses. In the past, it used to be the people that have control over the affairs of the party. Now, if you see that the governor or the former governor that has control over the political party. And that's what we are witnessing. That's the opportunity about this democratic dispassionation. People don't have the election representative after selecting these of them. They are imposed. They are imposed on people. You could see that somebody who has been in the political career for 20 years in Lagos, I am talking about the senator that I am presenting, Lagos West, Senatora District for 8 years. He was also an assembly member for 18 years. And he was also a member for 8 years. And the first thing to do is to represent the West as a senator elected. To represent the West as a senator after doing 20 years of political career in Lagos. Now it's not shifting base, except the people in that place. If you truly have a democratic structure that is not based on the position that the people in that community. I can't imagine 10 or 20 people of my nature in that community and then you have that part coming and part belongs to the people. That's such nonsense. All right, Judy Jemson. Let's take one more story from the punch and see if we can also talk on the nation. There's this disturbing story. I don't know where we are headed. Customs intercept 12 trucks of imported poisonous rice. You will see just nothing wrong with it. No one will rule. If poisonous rice, they will seize it and nothing will come. Just poisonous is the thing you need to access. There's no problem with the disco. Those who are ablating the disco. Those who are ablating the telcos. Those who are ablating TSC. We have problems with those who are on services to come into the country. The ministry of our Greek that used to work with customs with respect to food. So we just hear this story like this. And I will hear this story. Not a single staff of the people. Not a single staff. Not a single person that is responsible for this. Whether arrested or prosecuted or dismissed or disciplined. And I will give you a different measure. You can use it with the issue. Then you cross over that issue. And then you continue as business as an issue. So in Nigeria, there are no consequences for the action. You can get away with it. And that's why the governor would drive against the traffic. Because the police that are meant to maintain law and order would drive you home and beat you up. Because they are. So it's a lawless society where there is no respect for decency. There is no respect for all of law. And people don't face consequences for the action. And that's why we are found ourselves. We are found ourselves. We are not respect the power of principles. And we don't respect principles. Second will never be any meaningful goods. Let us not change the personnel of governments. We have been changing the personnel of governments. But our experience. Our experience gets worse and worse by the end. Why? Because we don't respect principles. We always believe that personalities will solve our problems. And then we don't even vote for the right candidate because the process has been compromised. And that's Niger by who rejects what happens within the political party. You solve what happens with the unity youth leader. That was something that got state. Where one of the aspirants was crying on national or at international state. Because that's their approach to the political class. That's what they're doing this secret. You know the first everybody. Every one of them to step down. Will you believe? People are coming. What we have is autocracy and not democracy. They are coming and holding microphone. I have stepped down. I have stepped down. Some of them share tears. And some of them are holding on. Like that lady from Brazil. I have stepped down for everybody. You have put two to two the line of the leaders. Do you know how many of those rise that are in the market already? That Nigerians are eating. It is a sad situation. In the 90s, that toxic oil, even this year, what has happened to the toxic oil in Nigeria? The toxic oil. That is still questionable. Because nothing has been done after all. Okay, let's go to the nation and these people as we begin to round off on this particular discourse. Let's talk about the Abou Jaqadou Natruen service. From what we hear, it is sad to resume. And no NIN, no TCATS. Abou Jaqadou Natruen service. Abou Jaqadou Natruen service search to resume. No NIN. Abou Jaqadou Natruen service search to resume. Right now they are saying that they are searching to resume. We have closed the door for explanation. With respect to the lives and properties of the Nigerian city. They might not want to come for the president to resign. Because in their failure of their duty to protect the lives and property they swore an oath to. They swore an oath. The governors also an oath to protect the lives and property of Nigeria. Have they lived up to the oath? They swore. One of his populace in transportation will collect from many of state-of-the-art patients when as we subscribe. And the minister of labour productivity will have presidential aspiration when as we subscribe. And there is no, it is just a vicious cycle. And like we said we can change personnel. But if we don't change our attitude, if we don't apply some easy principles of respect for life and property, human dignity. And next year we talk about it in 4 years time. When another election cycle comes around, we talk about it in 8 years time. When another election cycle comes around, we talk about it in 8 years time. And that keeps moving forward and coming back forward. It keeps moving forward and coming back forward. All right. A very big thank you to you Jilly Johnson for all the thoughts you have shared concerning the major stories that are trending on the front pages of the nation's newspapers. Thank you so much. Once again Jilly Johnson. And you too. Jilly Johnson is the chief lecturer at the Niger Institute of Journalism. That's as much as we can take on the press. We'll take a quick break and return with more. But just before we let you know what's happening or what happened this day in history, stay with us.


The President's remarks concerning the new beautification stamp from the East Room of the White House October 5th, 1966. Thank you, Byrd, Larry O'Brien, my friends. I want to thank each of you for coming here this morning and all of you for letting me participate in the unveiling of this new stamp. I really have no extended formal speech to make to you, but I overheard this morning that Lady Bird and Larry O'Brien were over here in the East Room playing post-office. And I thought I'd better get over here and play with them. I want the Postmaster General to know that I really have no objection to his departing from Custom as he observed this morning by giving the first album this beautiful stamp to the President's wife instead of the President. That's exactly what I would have done if he had presented this album to me. And by doing that, you, Larry, just eliminated the middleman. This is a very proud moment for all of us and protective for me. This word beautification has become popular, I think, only recently. But Lady Bird and I have been working together on what is now called beautification for more than 30 years. We really began it back when we were with NYE in Texas and we originated the idea of the little highway parks to dot our roadsides. And before the year 1935 was out, we had more than 400 of them from one end of that state to the other. Johnson had as much influence with me then as she does now. And I think that you can see the results of that influence every time you ride through Texas and every time you see the national capital. I don't think that any spring in my memory has been as beautiful to me as the one that we've just had. You could hardly turn a quarter or ride through a pasture in our state or past a park or down a thoroughfare or an avenue in this city without seeing some new flowers or some new shrubbery or some new trees that were put in by the dedicated members of the beautification committee that Lady Bird worked with here in Washington. And to Mayor Lasker, Lawrence Rockfall and the others who have contributed so much to this effort in the nation's capital and in every hamlet in this land, I express to you this morning the gratitude of appreciative people for your leadership and for your dedication and for your generosity. I hope, as I believe all of us hope, that as Washington becomes ever more beautiful, that it's going to be a model and an inspiration to every other community in this land. We have many problems in our country that are going to tax our resources, problems that will take many years for their solution. We cannot wipe out overnight slums that it took us 100 years to deteriorate. But I think anyone can plant a tree. Everyone can put a flower box in their window. And I hope that this beautiful new stamp will serve as a constant reminder for all of us to do just that. Beauty is not a very easy thing to measure. It does not show up in our profit and loss statements. But it is one of the most precious possessions that Americans have. Ugly surroundings breed warped and shrunken spirits. There, I think, should be sometime in every day of every life to watch the sun set or to smell the flowers or to listen to the birds while they sing. And that's really what the beautification program is all about. And you oughtn't have to go to Wyoming to do it, either, Senator McGee. I'm pleased that efforts are being made in areas where we have populations where we can all enjoy some of these things with our children. I'm pleased that the design of this stamp, as Larry pointed out, also commemorates Thomas Jefferson for no one understood it better than he did. And to each of you who have contributed to this maximum beauty for a great nation, for great people, I am very thankful. And I'm especially pleased to have the chance to work with Ms. Johnson.


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