Okay, so let's go through the men's draw now. It's some epic matches. We've just gone through a very quick summary, but let's go through a match by match, starting with the players that are withdrawn because some big names are not playing. So we have Brooksby. He's pulled out. Federer obviously pulled out as well. Nishikori's pulled out. Pella, Rayonich, Sandgren, Team, and Stamverbrinker all pulled out. So some really big names and Grand Slam champions in there as well. Djokovic, the number one seed at this stage is playing Ketch Menovic. You'll see, maybe a Serbian in the second round. The winner of that match takes on either Ray Qualifier or Tommy Paul in the second round. Then we've got Ott versus the wild card Seng. Winner of that match takes on either Query or Senego, the number 25 seed in the second round. Then we've got the number 17 seed, Monfice, first in Koria in the first round. Winner of that match takes on either Bublik, Ray Qualifier in the second round. Then we've got Delbonnes versus Martinez. Winner of that match takes on either Bagnus and the number 16 seed, Garin. So you can see there, if Djokovic does get to play, he has a very good draw. Senego did beat him a couple of years ago, but Djokovic, Grand Slam Djokovic, we know is an absolute animal. So it's going to be very interesting because here if he plays, he should get through this part of the draw. He can beat Monfice, he can beat Garin. There's no threats there for Djokovic. Maybe Query, maybe Senego. Let's go to the second section of the draw now. We've got number 12 seed, Cam Norrie taking on Seb Corder. That is a dangerous matchup. Very, very fun matchup for us to watch, but very unlucky for Norrie. Winner of that match takes on either Mouté or Pui in the second round. Then we've got Greek Spore versus Vanini. Winner of that match takes on either a qualifier or the number 19 seed, Karinja Buster in the second round. Then we've got the number 31 seed, Elkerez taking on a qualifier. Winner of that match takes on either Fucovic or Lyovic in the second round. And then you've got Kozlov versus Vesely. Winner of that match takes on either a very, very interesting first round match between Nakashima and the number seven seed, Beritini. So I mean, look, Beritini, good draw, should get through if he can get through a couple of his names. Obviously Elkerez, everyone wants to see how he does this year, especially after what he did at the US Open. But look, this is an interesting part of the draw. Winner of this part of the draw will obviously take on Djokovic in the quarter finals, if Nolle plays. All right, let's get to the serious stuff now because the draw starts getting stacked from here on in. The third section, we've got the number three seeds, Vera, taking on Olpmaer in the first round. Winner of that match takes on either Lopez or Milman in the second round. Then we've got a qualifier versus Nisyoka. Winner of that match takes on either the wild card Vukic, or the number 30 seed, Harris in the second round. Then we've got the number 23 seed, Opelka versus Anderson. That match is just going to be tie breaks, aces all day long. Serve bot versus serve bot. We'll see how that plays out. Winner of that match takes on either Kopfer or Tappena in the second round. Then we've got Rune versus Kwon. Winner of that match takes on either Jera or Shapoval of the 14th seed in the second round. So Shapo versus Vera could be a fourth round. But remember Harris at the US Open last year, massive tournament for him. Harris is dangerous. So watch out, it's Vera, very tricky draw. Harris and of course Shapo are the big names, but you've got to watch out for Anderson. You've got to watch out for Opelka as well. Not easy for Sasha's Vera, but it only gets worse as you'll see in a second. Let's go to the bottom part of the top half of the draw. We've got the number 10 seed, her catch taking on Drissimov. Winner of that match takes on either Duckworth or Manorino in the second round. Then we've got a qualifier versus McDonald. Winner of that match takes on either Munea or the number 18 seed Carrotov in the second round. Then we've got the number 28 seed, Hashinov taking on Kudler. Winner of that match takes on either Bonzi or Goyovchek in the second round. Then we've got a qualifier versus Kokonakis. Winner of that match takes on either Giron or the number six seed, Rafa Nadal. And look, Rafa's got a tough draw. Get through Giron, Kokonakis second round, very tough. Hashinov third round, very tough. Her catch or Carrotov fourth round, very tough for Rafa, especially on the fast courts of the Australian Open. If the weather's warm, the big hitters are gonna win. So Rafa's got a tough, tough draw. Not to mention, if he does win, he's part of the draw, Rafa, who probably plays Varev in the quarterfinals. Bottom half of the draw now, the top section of the bottom half. We've got Kasparud, the number 18 seed, taking on Molkan in the first round. Winner of that match takes on either Abashkar or Enduhar in the second round. Then we've got Sepi versus Madrasak. Winner of that match takes on either Museti or Diminor, who is the number 22 seed. So Diminor versus Museti, that looks like a five-setter for me. Next-gen guys going at it, very fun matchup. Another very fun matchup, you've got Basilash Vili, the number 21 seed taking on Murray in the first round. Massive first round there, five sets written all over that one. Very interested to see how that plays out. Winner of that match takes on either a Qualifier or Quavos in the second round. Then we've got Johnson versus Thompson. Winner of that match takes on either a Qualifier or the number 11 seed, Sinner in the second round. Sinner's got a good draw. I know a lot of you think that Sinner might make a good run at this tournament. He's got a very good draw. He could easily get through his part of the draw. You know, there's a lot of, I mean, maybe Murray is probably a danger player based on experience, but I think Sinner on a hard court, he should beat pretty much all those players without too much problem. Maybe a five-setter against Murray would be pretty fun to watch, but I think Sinner's got a pretty good draw. Next section of the draw, we've got RBA taking the number 15 seed, taking on Trevalia. Winner of that match takes on either Coleshrieber or Chekinado who are going out in the first round. Then we've got Tfoe versus a Qualifier. Winner of that match takes on either another Qualifier or the number, what is it, number 20 seed Fritz in the second round. Interesting part of the draw of that one. Then we've got the number 26 seed Dimitrov taking on a Qualifier. Winner of that match takes on either Pair or Montero in the second round. Then we've got Baez versus Ramos-Vinoles. Winner of that match takes on either Ema or the number four seed, Stefano Siti-Pas. So very interesting part of the draw because of Siti-Pas' question mark with his elbow. Dimitrov loves playing in Australia, so he could be a very fun one, maybe get out of this part of the draw. All right, let's go to the bottom section of the draw. Now we've got number five seed Rubelev. He takes on Maga in the first round. Winner of that match takes on either Bayena or Barencus in the second round. Then we've got two Qualifiers going at it in the first round. Winner of that Qualifier battle will take on either another Qualifier with the number 27 seed Chillich in the second round. Then we've got the number 24 seed Evans taking on Gophane in the first round. Winner of that match takes on either Poprin or Rindinik in the second round. Then we've got Fakina versus Bolt. Winner of that match takes on a very, a winner of a very interesting match between Roussevore and the number nine seed Ojalia Seem. That kind of feels like a five setter. Couple of young guys who are, you know, next-gen guys, in form as well. Roussevore had a pretty good week last week, lost to Raffer in the end, I believe. FAA obviously won the ATB Cup with Team Canada. Very interested to see how this goes. And the bottom part of the draw, which has got a lot of fun matchups potentially. We've got number 13 seed Schwartzman taking on Kronovic in the first round. Very fun matchup there. Winner of that match takes on either Connell or Gaston in the second round. Then we've got a Qualifier versus Serendolo. Winner of that match takes on either Cressy and the number 22 seed Isner in the first, who we're going out in the first round. So that's a five setter all over because we know Cressy served Volley Tennis. John Isler with a big serve. That'll be a five setter in about two hours. It'll be a very quick five setter. Then we've got the number 29 seed Umbair taking on Gaskay. Winner of that match takes on either Vandezanshup or Strouf in the second round. Then we've got a Qualifier taking on Nick Kirios and get this. Winner of that match takes on either Laksunin or the number two seed Danil Mevvedev in the second round. So we went crazy when the draw came out and now looking at that, it's like the best second round match you could ask for Kirios versus Mevvedev. What a matchup. Not to mention the winner of that plays Umbair. You remember last year, Kirios Umbair, five setters every time. And also Mevvedev and Umbair played an epic at the start of this year at the Edge of the Cup. Jokovic has got the easiest draw. I picked Zverev at the end of last year and look, I'm true to my word. I'll pick Zverev again. I'll keep picking Zverev.  It's not easy. I mean, that's not an easy draw that he's got. Mevvedev's got a nightmare down the bottom with the Kirios Umbair back to back matchups potentially. We don't even know if Jokovic is playing because if he gets removed, Rubelev might have the easiest draw. Maybe he gets to the final. Maybe Rubelev wins the Australian Open but I'm gonna go with Zverev. You let me know in the chat or in the comments below, who do you think's gonna win the Australian Open this year for the men? That, I don't know. I mean, and don't give me the whole I'm waiting for Jokovic's answer. Put your prediction on the line. Who do you reckon? And if you say Novak, that's fair. That's a no. Novak has the best draw. He plays, he wins. I don't see how Jokovic doesn't win this tournament.


All right, good morning, Cybertraders. How's everybody doing? This one, the little windy over here in New York and yourself, how's everybody doing over there? Honestly, lovely Tuesday. Good to see you all. Good morning, good morning, everybody on YouTube. Welcome back, Facebook, Cybertraders. All right. So anyway, what a bloodbath we're going on right now. We're down about 300 points. I told you, not feeling too comfortable was going on the market lately. And you know what?  And all of a sudden, gas is going to start going up. Everything's going up. We saw a lot of oil stocks doing pretty well yesterday. We did pretty good a couple of stocks. So let me tell you, I always say this all the time. Catastrophes obviously make for opportunities. Been a lot of great shorts. I'm looking at my watch list. I don't have not one, not one thing that is green. Not even a penny. I mean, like, not that there's nothing spectacular, but nothing up that's going on out there. So be a little, little concerned. More and more news is starting to come out. I don't know if everybody's heard about the job reports last week. They were expecting that we were supposed to get like 900,000 people. We had 250,000. That is almost 800,000 short of what they're saying it's supposed to be. So you know what?  That's all I could tell you. So we'll see how that all works out, because we're seeing it starting to affect a little bit. But I'm not seeing the market really going crazy right now. We've got some more earnings announcements coming out. But we'll see what's going to happen with certain news that comes out with the pipeline and new policy and all this other good stuff. But there were a couple of good stocks that we traded yesterday. I want to bring up one of the really big winners that we had right here that a lot of you guys traded. I know some of you were not here or maybe joining us for the first time. But going into the afternoon, this stock was just off the charts. The only bad thing had happened, it really made its big move right after the afternoon meeting was over. You can see the stock ran from $340, did not even stop, did a couple of shakes, did a couple of shakes, ran all the way from $340 all the way to $680. And then obviously it was just trading in a range right here, resistance at $660, support at $6. It got pretty tedious around that time. And then obviously the last hour did a nice little, the last 30 minutes, which we always talk about, did its last push on that trade. So that was pretty much the best one out of them all. Overall, it was Monday. I don't think it was that very impressive after seeing what was going on with the Dow and everything else, but that pipeline is a, I mean, I don't know if you guys keep up with current events, but this is your job as a trader here at Cybertree University. You have to follow politics. You got to follow corporate America. You got to follow what's going on in the world, okay? Because to be a very, I mean, everybody's like, wow, that sounds like a lot of stuff. Let me explain something to you. You might not like what people talk about or you might love it, but at the end of the day, you're in the middle, you're a trader, and it could affect everything that you do to be successful what you're doing. And it's not only just being a professional trader, it's also gonna affect your long-term investments, your swing trading, everything else. Because I wanna talk about some other stocks that are moving and before that are moving, but I wanna talk about some of these things that what we've specifically tried to teach you at Cybertree University is that going into the low of the day, you know, like here we have a stock like AEI. If you look at the long-term chart on the stock, the stock literally was started from $10.  Oh, maybe I just sold yesterday at seven. Oh, maybe I sold six, and now what are you gonna do? You gonna sell at three now, okay? I don't know, it might be a good price at three, you know, because you woke up this morning, yesterday it was at 650, now it's at three. How much lower could the stock go? I don't know, zero? That could happen, by the way, okay? And another stock, did the same exact thing, FLNT, another one. Stock goes up from seven, five, you wake up the next morning, oh, damn, it's at five now. What do I do? I could have got out yesterday at seven. Yeah, now it's almost at two. You know what I mean, a month later.  You know what I mean? So remember, the trend is your friend, you don't wanna buck the trend. I think there was one more too that took a big hit too. Yeah, this one right here, another big one right here, VUZI, I mean, listen, doesn't matter what the symbol is, but the old trade the same, $32, started going down, started 26, 20, damn, we're now all the way down to 11, what do you do? I don't know. I mean, it was a $4 stock at one point, okay?  Okay, let's go check out Tesla. Let's see how that story's working out for you, okay? Tesla's the same thing. Look at this, you wanna trade an expensive stock?  So here you got a stock.  So anyway, goes from 665, it closed all the way down to 625, look where it is now, 580. I mean, the stock literally broke a very major support levels right around here, around 600, okay? Is it at, yeah, like, I mean, this stock could probably go down and test maybe 540s. I mean, the real support level here is at 450, all right? So, you know, Tesla and also Neo was the same thing. You know, same thing, trended the same type of trend. Oh, all these electric cars. I don't know why the electric cars take it a big hit though, you know? I don't know, has it really had something to do with the oil, you know? What's going on with the colonial pipeline? But, oh, I wanna check that out. But anyway, not being very negative, I'm just always, I'm trying to be on the flip side, be very, very positive because to be a good trader, you have to be aware of your surroundings, you know? You gotta be very careful what's going on in the market because next thing you know, you're down $2 in a stock.  Next thing you know, you wake up and next morning you're down like, how did that, and how all of a sudden the stock dropped down 50%. And let me tell you, we've done this very, very well. Just talking about some of our swing trades. Chewie is one of them. Chewie was at 112, look where it is now. Down in 60, it's down 50%. Blink, another one, $60 stock. Now it's in the 20s. What else that we had yesterday? Draft King, we got out of that one. $70 stock, we did great on that. Look, it's down to 40. Almost every single stock that we traded is down literally 50% from its highs of its move. And I mean, riot down to 25. I mean, all these stocks are taking massive, massive hits. I mean, I don't know if I can keep going, TLRY. I mean, just every one of these stocks, I was making money, I averaged up, I actually lost money on some of them. But like, I probably lost maybe like 10%.  That's what's a good part about being a day trader, all right? We make a lot, but we don't have to to make it very successful. All right, so anyway, let's go through the watch list because there are a couple of stocks that are moving we might wanna keep an eye on. First of all, I'm gonna look to go short, okay? Listen, I know a lot of people are scared about short. How could you be so scared to go short? Well, people trade options. Shorting is like the easiest thing to do compared to going, trading an option. Yeah, right, can you terrify? Everyone's terrified about shorting. Listen, whatever goes up comes down twice as fast. Always remember that, all right? So T-Labs got a little bit of a nice push. It did pretty decent yesterday, but it was an ETF. You know what I mean? So some ETFs are doing pretty decent. FNGD, another stock had a nice push yesterday. What is another ETF, okay? So it's just weird how so many of them are out there. This stock is gapped up pretty decently, but to me, it looks like it's basically a buyout because I could just tell by just seeing where it's going in pre-market. So I'm gonna scratch that one out. What else we got? BMRA, this one, I don't know. I thought it was pretty decent in pre-market. It ran pretty good around 8.25 in the morning. Ran from 4.60 to 5.20. Now it's like kinda holding here. I mean, I'm looking over here on the level four. I mean, not really seeing anything spectacular. And I'll bring over here so guys can see it. I mean, I got a couple buyers here at 4.50. Not really that great. You know what I mean? Nothing to cry home about.  I mean, it's flat right here. I can't even bring it up on the level four because I really can't even, I checked it out before and I didn't even see anything. Moving, you guys all remember Pete Ticks, right? Pete Ticks, that was another one. That was a good one yesterday too. I had to meet that one. Obviously it was one of our good winners right here at 9.30. This thing came from nowhere. I think it ran literally within like 15 minutes. Ran from like 2.35 all the way to 4.80. Stock was halted. This was a pretty good one. She's moving okay now, but she's got some resistance levels right around $4.00. That's about it. I mean, that's really what you got there. I checked over here on level four. You got some sellers that are poking their nose right here at $10,000, $10,398, and $4.00. So we can see some, got a couple of bidders bidding up, but nothing really, like I said, nothing crazy. Oh, Robox is up. Another IPO that went public that took a big hit. I was a fan of that stock too. And sure enough, you could see where it's at. Telling you get really, really nervous. Uber, another one, look at this. They'd really taken big hits right here. 61 broke through a major support levels. When the stock broke around 53, look at that thing just dropped at 10 points. Just like a probably test 41. Probably that's where we're gonna probably go. What's the high here? 37s. You got to be, you have to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. All right. Short losses in infinity stock price gained two at a moon. Well, you know what? You know, you hear in these mixed messages regarding about what's going on in the street.  Like everybody wants to travel. But sure enough, you could see that Delta also took a big, big hit. And the reason why they said that the pipeline, okay, the gas pipe, the oil pipeline that fuels the jet fuels do go to these airlines. It could be a shortage for these airlines. I mean, that would be, I don't know how that would affect the airline industry. But you could see a lot of stocks took a big, big hit yesterday. All right, so listen, not a great list, not a big deal. We always find something like PTIC that shows up. But I would be really, really cautious right now. Be really, really careful the market. I mean, we're down pretty big right now. We're down 330 points. Listen, I'm gonna look to go short. I'm gonna look to go short. And you know what? We could do that. If you're not able to go short and you're a student here or a trader at Cybertree University or maybe watching us on YouTube, you better check with your online, your direct access broker's firm and see why not. Now if you're trading an IRA, obviously you can't do that. But I might wanna be in cash, you know, in certain stocks. Listen, you need to see a consistency. When you get two to three days of consistent downtrends, that's not a good sign. That is a sign of, you know, we're going a lot lower. It's a trickle-down effect. When it's time to go long, when you get two to three days going up, that's when you know you're on an uptrend. Once again, that's more of a swing trade, more of an investment. But as a day trade, we keep focused on that all the time. All right guys, so listen, Josh is not gonna be here today. He's not feeling too well. Rich is gonna be working with me side-by-side here in the cybergroup room. So you got us two this morning. If you're watching YouTube Facebook Live, you wanna come and join us. Just like us, friend us. Maybe wanna do a $9 trial, join our trading room. You're more than welcome to. Let's show you how to trade today's markets in the live market hours in our cybergroup room, the original one that we started 25 years ago. Guys, be safe and also trade us talk because Josh is out. We're not gonna have it today, obviously. So we'll see you in the trading room in the meantime, all right? Try to be careful. Don't get too cocky. Don't try to find these bottoms on certain stocks because it only might make things worse. Look too short. I mean, as I see right now, I'm gonna look too short. But we'll see how when we get out in the market and see how it opens up at 9.30, all right guys? Good luck, happy trading, and be safe. We'll see you back at 2.30.


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All right, welcome back. You are still hanging out with us right here on Why In The Morning. Remember, you can plug in on the hashtag Why In The Morning, everyone, all our social media platforms. That's on Facebook, Instagram, and on Twitter as well. It's at www.youtube.com for a full channel. And remember, on Instagram, it's www.youtube.com for an underscore channel. And personally, mine is at BrianSakwa101. And for those that are not seated in front of your TV screens, you can stream for free on www.kbc.co.k E4 slash Y254. Now joining us live with us in studio is the reigning Mr. Waal Kenya, Franklin Assoyo. We're going to talk about Martin's community service and pangentry. We're going to also get to know him a little bit. How did he get into that space? How was his crowning moment? What are some of the life-changing things that have happened to him as well as those that he has managed to do not only for himself and also others as well? So good morning to you. Good morning, Brian. Thank you for having me. You're welcome. Nice to meet you in person. Nice to meet you as well. All right. And now before we get to the business of pangentry and community service, which is one of the main things when it comes to pangentry, if you were to actually describe yourself, how would you describe yourself? I'm just a simple guy. So I'm outgoing. I like to explore. And I believe, like Elid, no human is limited. Our limits are boundless. And it can be anything you want to be in this world. So that's me. I see. Now, I'm trying to imagine your crowning moment before we get to how you got into it. I'd just like to know a little bit of your background. Where did you grow up in? Where do you come from? A lot of people would actually love to know because this is the reigning, Mr. Wat Kenyer. Like, I'm sure you've had a lot of successes as well. So it's funny, because I didn't grow up in like, I don't have one place I'd say grew up in. I was born in Eldoritz, then moved to Malindi, grew up in Malindi, then moved to Capsabit, grew up in Capsabit. And that's where like I spent most of my life as a child growing up. So then went to Capsabit High School, finished, went to Jombo Kenyatta University, graduated. Then that's when Mr. Wat Kenyer came. All right. So you have like a mixture of different experiences. Experiences and cultures as well. And funny, I've never grown up in my like, where our grandparents grew in my like, home, home. And we were grown up there. Right. So do you feel like it may be disenfranchised to you? Am I, it's like, it is what it is. It is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. All right. Now, let's come now to the business of Pagentry and Community Service. What exactly is Pagentry for somebody who's watching? And like, you know, I want to also be Mr. Wat Kenyer. Like, the way Frankie is, how do I go about it? And it's all attributed to Pagentry. What exactly is it? So Pagentry is what you take it to be.  You can be that if you want to be a feet model. You can be that if you want to do projects, which is what you do, be of service to the community. It can be that to you. So what's special about the Mr. Wat Kenyer and Ms. Wat Kenyer Pagentries is that they put much emphasis on community service and delivering projects that are close to your heart. All right. Yeah, so that's what Pagentry is to me as Mr. Wat Kenyer. All right. Before we get to the X factor, that made you got crowned for it, did you always like maybe gravitate towards that line of profession? Cause you know, I think at some point we had a conversation we were asking ourselves, is it such a so serious profession? And you said, yes, it's a serious profession. It's what it's making me money. And as much as you studied something different as well. So now I didn't see growing up and ever thought I'd be a model because I didn't even think there was, I didn't even know the Mr. Wat Kenyer platform existed. It's not until 2018 that then I saw the applications for Mr. Wat Kenyer were open and I thought I'd give it a go. All right. So it's not something really gravitated towards just something that came. All right. But you studied a different course. I understand you studied Electrical Engineering and Electrical Engineering and Pagentry. If you put those two on yourself, they are totally two different strengths, two different strengths, you know, avenues. How do you actually merge between that and what you are right now? So I'm growing up, I had a passion for engineering as a whole. So even in my fifth year project, what I did is we made drones. Drones, like filming drones? No, yeah, yeah, filming drones. Okay. Or even security drones. Yeah, they could do right about anything. All right. So that's where my passion was. But then in 2017, I changed my trajectory in life because like we had this discussion earlier, I lost my dad to breast cancer and it felt like there was a need to create awareness around breast cancer, especially in men. Sorry for that. Because men are not aware about it. All right. So in 2017, after I lost my dad, there was an opening for Mr. Jayquat because I studied in Jayquat. I did Mr. Jayquat and I won. So I became Mr. Jayquat and the amount of impact created around that was heavy. So I thought if I could do this with Mr. Jayquat, what could I do with Mr. World, Kenya? So after I graduated in 2018, an opening for Mr. World, Kenya came in 2019. So I was still job searching and Mr. World, Kenya openings came. So I decided to go for it and lucky enough I got it. Wow, congratulations. And here you are. Did you have like friends or people who are actually pushing you towards to apply? And if yes, maybe what are some of the things that they were making you to, you know, consider? Or what were the exact things they saw that, you know, Frank, if you do this, definitely you will win. So I have like three of my best friends in campus. When the opening for Mr. Jayquat came, they were like, Frank, what can you try this? I was like, why do you see me as Mr. Jayquat? And to them they were like, because you're tall and... All right. You know, such things. Like, okay, give it a go. There's nothing to lose anyway. So yeah, there's like three of my friends, they pushed me towards it. But then now for Mr. World, Kenya, it was solely me. No one knew about me applying for Mr. World Kenya until a few days of the competition when I was inviting my friends and my family to come for the competition. That's when they knew about it. All right. So that's how like now you got solidified into it. You got the passion and you started like having it now as a serious profession. Yeah. So I think my passion with modeling grew with time. I didn't, I can't say it came into it. With passion, I feel like it grew in me as I did it. All right, as you started pursuing it. All right, before we get to the X-Factor moment, maybe what are some of the trainings that you did go through that helped you along the journey to even get up to the crowning of the Mr. World? And were you initially going by your name, Franklin Nassoyo?  No, my name has always been Franklin Nassoyo. All right, so you've never, there's no a.k.a. in the field as well. It's just me. It's not like being an artist a rapper. I'd love to have an a.k.a. though, like artists and rappers do. What would it be if you had a rapper, by the way? I mean, what do you think it would be? I'd love to think about it. I'd love to be creative enough. I don't know. I've just never given it much thought. But I'd love to have an a.k.a. You'd love to have an a.k.a. I'll think about it maybe after. All right. But so yeah, to apply for Mr. World, Kenya, there's certain height requirements you have to have. Physical requirements such as like your height, your, your, for me, it's not as serious as for women.  So you have to have near perfect skin for both men and women. Near perfect. This means you must have a very strange and skin care routine. Skin care routine. Unless you never step into the sun. The umbrella always in a car, always moisturising.  So yeah, that's never a big problem for guys at that age. Yeah, so some of the trainings you go through.  So you meet every day for two weeks where you are trained on matters, etiquette. In etiquette, you're trained how to walk, how to talk, how to eat, how to socialize. I think it is the most visible part. Just bro, grab a fork, I'm going to use your hands. But then a fork and knife. Using a fork and knife is not what most of us grew up knowing. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. It was like a white man thing or like more of an official, you know. More than. And for me, I never knew I'd even never used a fork and knife. You had never used a fork in life. I'd never used a fork and knife.  And that's it. But now you have to be so courteous and so perfect. And the reason is because after your crown, you are going to meet high-profile people and dine with them. All right. You'll need to have that sort of etiquette. All right. So aside from etiquette, you're trained on matters finance, how to manage your finances. So there is banks and finance gurus that come and talk to you. You're trained on on generally how to carry yourself because that's what matters the most when you're in this position that I am. Right. So those are the sort of trainings that are given to you. They expect of you to train yourself physically, you have to maintain yourself physically. There's no package like package. Oh, that maybe package comes after now being crowned. Cindo, like a package for like, let's say, self-care, how to maintain yourself, move with your projects. Now that comes after and what Ms. Wild Kenya does is they partner with people to give you these packages that enable you to carry through your ring. Right. Interesting. I love the fact that you mentioned finance. And this year we talk about entrepreneurs and I love that, you know, you mentioned financial training. We'll talk about how your relationship with money is, which is a constant question on this show. Now, let's get back to your crowning moment. And before that moment, what exactly was the X factor detail that led you to be crowned, that made you to be so outstanding, so unique and different from the rest of the contestants that you say this is what exactly the judges were looking for. And this is the reason why I still deserve to be the still reigning Mr. Wild Kenya.  Oh, that's a huge number. After the applications are made online, what you do is they select like a hundred of you for both men and women. You're called for a physical audition, right? And then out of that, they pick 20 ladies and 20 men who now go into the bootcamp for two weeks. And during the two weeks, that's when they really make the observations on who deserves this crown. Because it's not it's not easy to to put on a face or pretend to be someone you're not for two weeks. Yeah, for one week, it's possible. But for two weeks, it's not people pretend for years, bro. People pretend for years. If you sing each other for two weeks, trust me, it becomes difficult. So what what you see is people put on a face for like a week, then one and a half weeks later, they're tired.  They're tired. Right. Yeah. And so for you, so for me, for for Mr. Wild Kenya in general, Miss Wild Kenya in general, and those weeks, those two weeks are what really matters because now they strip you down, they strip everything down because you have to meet every day from like eight a.m. to nine p.m. in the evening. And you have to maintain that is Monday to Friday. Monday to Friday, Monday to Friday. That's like a job. That's a job. So, yeah, everyone, by the time you're getting to top 20, you you are the cream de la cream. Everyone deserves that crown. OK, so it's it's a matter of like picking up the really neat, small thing, neat gritties in everyone. What are some of these things, though? What are the neat gritties they look at? Apart from you mentioned even physical beauty is part of that. Physical beauty is part of it. Height, which we don't have control over, is part of it. Unfortunately, because it just allows you to stand out. There's a standard height for every model. Yeah, because for when you go to the international competition, you get really tall models as well. So you want to be just as competitive. Now they put a standard height for models as well in Kenya. Right. Yeah. So for many, it's like five, five, ten or five, eleven. They are about now for you, you are five. I'm six, three, six, three. That's extremely tall, extremely tall. Yeah. And then and then the physical beauty, your physique, how you're able to articulate matters is one of the things that really matter, right? How you're able to interact with people because during the two weeks, you're interacting with these other contestants as well. You have leadership traits as well because they'll easily pick out who has leadership traits and who doesn't. So those are the things that really, really matter. Right. So for you, what was that X factor that you'd say, this is the one that actually exactly made the judges look at me and say, Mr. Franklin Ossoio, here you are, Mr. Al Kenya. So I didn't love to know, but I wouldn't say really know because I'd say they were guys who had better physics than me. Fortunately, enough, I was like the tallest guy. Oh, you were the tallest among them all, right? They were guys who, in my opinion, I would articulate issues better than guys. So I believe that's one of them. But these other guys had their game as well. So it's an accumulation of all these things put together. I wouldn't say there's one thing that made me stand out because if it looks, by the time you're getting to the top 20, everyone is looking good as well. Everyone is killing it. Everyone is killing it here. Right.  You have money to actually be recognized by a lot of people because of the project, but let's give us to the finance part. In this show, we talk about money a lot. And I usually ask my guests, what is your relationship with money? Do you attract money? Is money attracted to you? Do you chase money or does money chase you? For you, are you attracted to money? I love money. You love money. I love it. I love it. I think money loves me as well. Wow, amazing. So I try to attract it. I don't like to chase money. Okay. I do things that make money want me. So I get a set of skills that make me special and then now people with money want to come to me and give me the money to just put my skills aside there. So that's how I like to think about money. Right. So in short, your money first, you know what I say, money first can become and attract. And work. And work. You don't just money first and sit and sleep. You work and money first. Part of money first station, I think is just thinking about the things you want. I think that's what people like to label as money first station. All right. Thinking and not working and not putting into action. But then everything starts with a thought if you think about it, even having KBC, someone thought about let me have a station then all the puts, they work to have it. All right. Every thought, which is now manifestation counts, then now putting the work towards manifesting your manifestations. All the way you manifest another manifestation. Now let's get to your projects. Let me just shine the light on them a little bit. You are accelerated the COVID-19 vaccination campaign following reemergencies and then you also did tackle vaccine hesitancy among these that was during the pandemic time. And then you also sensitized the youth on the importance of COVID-19 measures and also organized and spoke to a panel of discussions together with health cabinet assistant secretaries at the National Youth Council. All right. So that's why when you mentioned about COVID, when you asked how it was that it was easy and not easy because as much as things went south during COVID, it was an opportunity for growth for people. And for me, it was one of those opportunities to come out and present myself as a leader. So unfortunately enough, we worked with the Ministry of Health and I was part of the youth team, I was the youth lead to promote, you know, vaccination and preventive measures against COVID. All right. So we managed to work with the ministry, with the cabinet assistant secretaries at that time. My name is Masim Mungangi, a very brilliant and beautiful lady. So to create awareness around COVID prevention and the importance of taking up the vaccines. All right. Now let's get to now the beauty of the PAPAS project.  What exactly makes you to be so passionate about that? So like I mentioned, I lost my dad to breast cancer and until that moment, I was in the university by the way at that time. And until that moment, I didn't know that men had breasts and could get breast cancer. All right. So I thought to myself, if me who's in the university taking an engineering course doesn't know about this, then how many other people in the country and even in Africa don't know about this. So I thought I'd take it up as a course to create awareness around breast cancer in the men. So we've managed to reach a lot of people and every time I mentioned to a man that they have breasts and can get breast cancer, I see they're all in them. They never even believe it. Sometimes it comes off as awkward. They were like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? Why are you talking about what breast? We're a breast actor. But it's true, right? Yeah, it's true. And I love the fact that October is breast cancer awareness month. And I think that was yesterday where we talked about it is necessary to go for a checkup. And as much as you're just OK, but at least just once, just once, at least at the end of the year, end of the activity for a checkup. But I don't know when it comes to men. It's usually like our checkups are a little bit awkwardish because they mentioned other parts. I don't know. For men? How has it been since you started advocating? Breast cancer checkups for men are really easy to do. It doesn't take more than 10 minutes to get screened for breast cancer. So what they do is they just touch your breast and feel for lumps. See if there's any lump in your breast, and that's it. So they recommend that you do that once a year. If you decide to do that in October every year, you will certainly get the service for free. Because during breast cancer awareness month, there's hospitals that offer that service for free, a lot of them. So part of my awareness campaign is just ask people to go get screened every October. It's as easy as that. It's not as difficult. So I think what you're talking about that was awkward is screening for prostate cancer. Exactly. That's awkward. I've never done it myself as well. But would you advocate for men to go and get screened for prostate cancer? Because it's the deadliest of the cancers, though. It is important, I think. Because if the earlier they get it, the better the outcomes will be for you. So I think it's really important. It's really important for them. Which is your beauty with our PAPAs project? Now, in terms of even choosing that, how exactly is it done in the pageantry that somebody at least must come up with a reason or a course that they are going to pursue? Is it part of the test? So during the two-week boot camp, you guys are asked to just articulate out what you think will be your beauty with the PAPAs project the moment you're crowned. So every person during the boot camp at that time has a project in mind that they're willing to undertake in case they're crowned. It's mandatory. It is mandatory. And it's part of the test, actually. So I just articulated my project that this is what I want to do and this is why. And I feel like the why is more important than the project itself because it's what pushes you. Because this community service and there's no money you get out of community services, especially if it's coming from your heart. You have to do it passionately. And the why is really what matters. The why is what matters the most. So for every model, you asked for someone who wants to be in my place, what is it they have to do? I feel like they have to have a passion for what they're doing. I know it's a cliche statement having a passion, but it's really important. It should be impactful, life changing, not only to yourself, but even to the community and the people around you. Yes. And it doesn't have to be the whole world or a lot of people. If you can impact 10 or 20 people, that's still important. Or even just one person. Even just one person. So one of the stories I like to tell is one of my best friends. It's a lady. During one of the screenings that we had created, they found cancer cells on her breasts. And it was early. They were just starting to form. Early screening. Yeah. And as a result, they caught the cancer early enough. So she's okay right now. So she was treated and they managed to do her well. So that's like one of my most proud moments because I was able to impact a person. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. Now, this whole crowning thing and the whole entire career has gained you a lot of recognition. I understand you've met all the presidents and I just really liked, you know, like what was the criteria and how did it happen that, you know, you ended up meeting president, Hulu Kenyatta. And now you've recently met the new president, William Samoia Ruto. Is it because of the projects you have there's usually like a process for pangents to, you know, go and get into a certain package that will allow them to meet some of these influential profiles. So it comes with it as well. Yeah. So we're lucky enough to have a really amazing franchise director. Her name is Madame Teri Mungai. She is the franchise owner for Miss World Kenya and the CEO and founder of Ashley's, Ashley's Kenya. So through her, we work under the Ministry of Health and Ministry of Youth Affairs. So once you work with the Ministry of Youth Affairs and they see the efforts you're putting towards your projects and they see that you deserve recognition, they give you the opportunity to meet these presidents and for the presidents to acknowledge your work as well. So I'm meeting the presidents as a result of my work and our connections to the Ministry of Youth. And what the presidents did for us is acknowledge our work and commend it. Right. I think there's a photo right there of you and that's President Horu Kenyatta, former president and then that is Sharon Obara. That's Sharon Obara. Just next to Sharon Obara is Madame Teri Mungai, our franchise director. Oh, wow. Right next to the president is the former CS for Youth, Amina Muhammad. All right. What was happening here? That's when we went to state house and met the president and for him to commend us on the job we're doing. And then now this first photo is during the inauguration for the now president, William Ruto. Right. How did it feel, by the way, meeting both of them? Like, do you have maybe a different experience? Like, let's say, meeting Ruto and now previously, you know, meeting outgoing president Horu Kenyatta. Yeah. So, funny thing, and I think this is what everyone does. When you're told you're going to meet the president, you kind of have this picture of how formal you're supposed to be. All right. And how composed you'll be. And then you meet them and they're all chatty and they all want to fist bump and you're like, okay, now I have to drop this. Everything I had in mind and I'll be chatty as well. So the interactions become really easy. Organic, right. Yeah, organic and easy. Right. They speak to you about the issues that you're carrying out and they're passionate about it. Right. And they're always willing to support it. So it's been great. And especially with President Horu Kenyatta, he's so charismatic. Like, he's very charismatic. Very charismatic. And with the now president William Bruto, it's easy because we went to the same high school. Oh, amazing. Gapsabit boys. Gapsabit boys. Now that's a really good entry point towards starting the conversation. To start a conversation. Does a conversation start at four? Yeah. Right. So who is the easiest in terms of personality and even the aura between Ruto and Horu? Who would say had an easy aura? I mean, I think it's both of them. It's really difficult to say who. I think both of them are really charismatic because President William Bruto has his own chatting style and same to President Horu Kenyatta. And it's difficult to compare the same because they're different. Right. Did that make you, did it elevate even your status? Because somebody meeting a president, a lot of people have lived and died. Even our ancestors, some of them have never met their president or even seen them. Was it a life-changing moment for you? It was because for you to be called to state house or the president's office and for the president to tell you congratulations and thank you for the work you're doing is a really big achievement. That's why I like to say some of the achievements I've had as Mr. Wild Kenya, I wouldn't have had them if maybe had gone into my engineering career straight. Okay. Right. Yeah. It does, it elevates your status, it makes you feel good about yourself and it keeps you going. Right. Apart from that, which other life-changing event that you've experienced where you say, hey, this one changed my life for good? Apart from, you know, meeting, of course, meeting the president is like, both presidents is the first, is the first, which other life-changing experience have you gone through? That you would say, this one has changed me till right now. I'm different because of that. Okay, for me, it's really little things. Okay. One of the cabinet assistant secretaries went to Twitter and made a whole thread about how good I am at the work I do and how brilliant I am. Amazing. That was humbling and really life-changing. And then one of my best moments during my reign has been when we went to visit one of the breast cancer survivors. All right. What we do is we visit breast cancer survivors, talk to them, and we build corn gardens. Corn gardens are really little gardens that spiral upwards. And on that garden, you can have like six or seven things just planted on that really little garden. So we set those up for them. And just talking to this person and getting their perspective on life, and they've had cancer for like 20 years and they're still going strong and they're happy about it. All right. Those moments are really life-changing. They make you see a part of life you wouldn't have seen normally. All right. Now, on that note also, what was that lowest moment that you know, broke? You'd say, this one, I cried. I'm seeing you on A-V-N-L-E-L-E-A, by the way. Now Mr. Waad, me with L-E-A. He'll say, he'll if I don't cry L-E-A with B-A-S-E-N. I never cry. Wongo, wongo, insert, insert L-E-A somewhere. Wongo, wongo. I never cry. I get touched though. I get moved by things. But I don't know why I never cry. So a lot of things have moved me. But most of them have been the interactions I've had during my, as I carry out my projects, during my reign. Those interactions have moved me They've made me want to give more and they've made me want to elevate more so that I can be able to elevate others as well. Right. Lowest, I wanted exactly lowest moment. This one, Nilek Wachini, I was depressed.  Or it could have been something you battled. Cause of course we are no more, bro. I feel like we all battle with imposter syndrome. Right. I look at myself sometimes and I think, am I really doing the best in my position? Do I really deserve to be Mr. Wilde Kenya? Right. Yeah, so we, and I think it's generally what everyone has. So I was talking to one of the cabinet secretaries at some point and this imposter syndrome topic came up. Right. And it intrigued me that they too had the same thing going on for themselves. Sometimes they think, do they deserve to be a cabinet secretary? Right. It's like doubting yourself. Yeah. And having to battle thoughts and emotions of whether, am I really the one? Yeah. When you wake up or when you sleep at night, do you like sleep with, you know, they're like, hey, but I miss taking Mukunya person. You guys might hurt me. I'm already Mr. Wilde Kenya.  Some of the people that come to you, does it also come with that as well? So there's a pressure to be, so once someone hears you, Mr. Wilde Kenya, I want to hold you to such a high, high esteem or high place. So there's the pressure that comes with that. Now that sort of pressure, I never like to deal with it. In fact, I know it totally because I like to be myself. I like to, I'm a really chatty person when it comes to being like real and one-on-one. And I don't like to put on a facade. All right. So you're real and short. Yeah. What you see is what you get. What you see is what you get. Oh, okay. Yeah. I can see this, this is a photo shoot? This was during last year's crowning of Ms. Wilde Kenya, now Sharon O'Bara. Oh, the Sharon O'Bara's reign now. So I was a judge during that event. All right. Now this was during that, the red carpet for that event. And I love that outfit. It's yellow mixed with, you'll also tell us about the one you've got. It was, that's almost like yellow. I don't know. It's gold. Oh, that's gold mixed with some good and sampled shoes right there. So what's the name of this outfit now? There's a designer called Bolo Bespoke. Or Austin. Yeah, Austin, you know, he made that outfit. And the shoes are from Elofidia. Wow. They are hands. Similar to this. The same shoes I'm wearing. The really expensive shoes. How much? Speaking of expensive, Bolo. How much are these? I was planning to go see Peter Gates. I was going to go see Peter Gates. Sometimes I'm wearing them like, should I sell them or should I? Why am I stepping on money? Yeah, bro, please. Oh man. How much? Just roughly. They were given to me and I was like, I wish, I wish. This was a present. Elofidia gave them to me. Oh, gift? Yeah. Wow. So they cost like $50. Wow, there's a lot of money right there. Yeah. The advantages this guy is enjoying, bro. Bro, you have so many advantages and privileges. But do you like to get people, gift you stuff from the UK, US, you get emails from even international organizations saying, hi, we'd like to meet you, blah, blah, blah. Yes, I do. You get a lot of that? Yeah. But then now they have to come, they have to meet my criteria for who I work for because I'm under contract. Oh, you're under contract? Because it's an organization. And they have a management. So every contract.


No you go baby, please go. Welcome back to Life Lessons in Film, today we'll be making sense of life through 500 days of summer. Which I've seen a million times, oh my gosh, I'm so tired, I'm always tired.  Okay, so it's two people, it is not a love story, as they point out, but it's two people, one is in love with the... they get into a relationship, but one person is hoping for a romantic relationship, the other person feels a draw towards this other person, the guy. So summer doesn't believe in romantic relationships, nor is she interested in pursuing one with Tom. With Tom, yeah. And she makes that clear to Tom, but Tom hopes that with time as their relationship progresses, she's going to settle into it being romantic, because he has these deep feelings for her, and they have a really strong connection, they like a lot of things, and they're both very fun, quirky, goofy people, same taste and they're very jovial. Very jovial. I would say, there we go, that's better. It's a powerful feeling when it just seems like everything you are and do and feel and think about clicks with the other person, it's very easy for that to just feel like this is it. That's what I've been waiting for, this is Kismet. The whole time Tom is trying to get Summer to see that this relationship is truly magnificent and is worthy of getting an official status into a relationship, a romantic relationship, and Summer persists, you know, that's not what I want. And she says this throughout the relationship and he continues to be hurt by it and is trying very hard to just look at it platonically, oh, this is just casual, but then he's like, yeah, she's in my bed, how's that casual, you know? Yeah, so that's basically the relationship, and yeah, no, you go baby, please go. Well, yeah, I guess a lot of the movie for me is miscommunication or not communicating, you know, you can kind of see it from both sides, but that's because they're not, a lot of it, they're just like, no, I'm good, I'm fine, or what's on your mind, are you sure? It's a lot of that movie is neither of them really knowing what to say or how to properly say it to the other person, what they're going through, what they, again, what their intentions were, because yeah, Tom brings up a good point, is this casual? But in her mind casual is, well, yeah, it's casual sex or casual hooking up and we could be kind of friends with benefits or it's kind of depending on, you know, just spur of the moment. Yeah, okay, I guess we're back at your place, you know, and he's thinking that's not, you know, this is a relationship thing, this is what you do, but it's perspective. As much as she says it a couple of times to Tom, that I just want, we're friends and that's it, and that's all I can ever give you, I cannot give you anymore. I guess the reason I'm thinking this is because I know the kind of person I am is I do tend to think for other people and what it is that they're going to be experiencing based on my actions. And so if I were in summer shoes, I would have said, I would have said to Tom, look, this is, I've been, I've keep saying that I just want to be friends with you. I see that you are, you have feelings, romantic feelings for me. I know for me that that's never going to change, but at the same time, and I would like for us to continue as we are, this friends with benefits situation that we have, but at the same time, I'm concerned about whether or not it would be good for you. It would be good for me because it serves what I, my needs, but I can see that it's not serving your needs. And so I want to know.  I want to know for sure, just to clear my own conscious that you are okay with what I want. Even if, even though you know that you would prefer for us to have a romantic relationship, are you okay with us with the possibility that it's never going to happen? And then if he wasn't okay, then I would leave because I don't want to be engaging with someone in a way that I know that would ultimately hurt them. So that's me. Each time I watched the movie, I find myself oscillating between whether or not she was in the wrong or if she was in the right, like she had, because she was honest throughout. I think, again, if I were her, I would have done things differently, but at the same time, because both of them don't are, I feel like both of them were wrong in the sense of walking on eggshells around each other. She says that I don't want to be friends. But then she never really qualifies that. I mean, she says that I just, we're just friends, but she never really qualifies that. And I say that because at the end of the day, friendship is, is platonic. She doesn't even say we're friends with benefits. You know, so she doesn't qualify this unique kind of friendship that is had, that is outside the realm of what we know to be friendship as it is defined. So in that way, she's in clear and that's not fair. It's murky and she doesn't seem to realize that because he spends the whole time agonizing over with his friends and they can't really make sense of it because it is a bit confusing where she'll kind of come up to him sometimes out of nowhere, give him a kiss or then kind of seem like, are we hooking up or, you know, what's going on? Which is stuff that, that feels more of relationshipy. And the other time she'll do things that are very much just a friend's thing. So she was making it murky. And because it's from his perspective, mainly you're also not only you're rooting for him. So I think it, they kind of put that misplaced hope in you as well as the same as, as he's going through the same misplaced hope that he's going through. So that's, I think also why it seems like she's being unfair or at times not cool murky and then you have to remember, oh, no, it's more, we're kind of getting it from his perspective where you want them to work out, you know. On his end, he's also not making himself clear about what he wants. And I think the reason is because of what the sister says, he's worried that if he does tell her what he wants, what she, what he wants from the relationship, then she may decide, okay, I'm going to end this.  I want us to go, you know, heavy. He's, I think is worried that then it's going to stop, he might, she might put a stop to it when she realized, okay, there's a lot of at stake here. This person is hoping for this. I don't want to give him that. And so I'm going to stop. And so he obviously is enjoying this relationship that they have, whatever it is, both of them are enjoying this relationship, whatever it is that they have. So I think in that way, they kind of, who, whether she's wrong or he's wrong, I think it kind of balances itself out where in the end, because they're not doing these important things. Then they're both at fault for the relationship. There's no one, there's no villain, basically. Again, you assume people's thought processes like yours, because we want to believe that you can also understand people that you end up spending a lot of time with, and you want to be able to do that without communicating certain things. You feel like you just shouldn't have to get clarification on that. You should just be able to know. So when, when he says near the end, after she's gotten married, and he's, I'll never understand someone who says, don't believe in love, don't believe in fate or relationships, then you get married. But he was saying, well, why did you dance with me at our friend's wedding when this guy was already in your life? This guy, she ended up marrying at the end. She's like, I just want to do it. Yeah, he's, you know, because in his mind, that's just not something that would ever make sense to him.  Just do what you want. Yeah. So he's still not really understanding her thought process, which is just different from his. That's all it is. I understood his frustration because obviously he's on the receiving end of this.  And that's what people do, isn't it? I do believe that Tom was in love with her. And I believe that Summer truly cared for Tom.  And I like that she did that, right? Because she was making sure not to, to say things like, I love you. Yeah, she never did. She never did. And I think with Summer, she is very honest with herself. I definitely believe that you can have an affinity for someone, a very, very deep one, and you could enjoy this person's company so much and love them platonically, truly. And I think that was the case with Summer. And you see that after the breakup, how much she longs for them to reconnect with friends. She says things like, I hope this means we can still be friends. Yeah. People look at that and like, oh no, you're putting, she's putting you in the friends zone, you know? People look at those kinds of things negatively, but it doesn't necessarily mean like, I don't know, obviously the conception of a friends zone is negative, is negative. But it's not really a negative thing for someone who wants to be in love with them. Yeah. And even then, I think we really kind of need to reconfigure our way of internalizing when someone says, can we just be friends? Because friendship is also very, very important. And those two people, I think they did have a very good friendship. Outside of the romantic relationship, they had a very good friendship. And Summer enjoyed that very much. Summer knows what she wants, right? And she knows that there's something missing that doesn't allow her to get to the point of feeling romantically towards Tom. She can't know what it, she doesn't necessarily know what it is. She can't actually name it, but that's just the reality. She just knows innately that this person does not complete me in the way that I need to. As much as the person fulfills me, and that's very possible. As much as I enjoy his company, I enjoy the intimacy, the physical intimacy. But I know that long term, this is not someone that I could completely, I could say that I'm gonna settle with as a romantic partner, you know? And I think that that's okay. I think that was going, what was going on with Summer. And I don't think that she's a bad person for that. Yeah. And you know, I think why the friend zone is seen as such a shameful need to avoid kind of situation I think is because what is the friend zone? Rejection for the one person. Rejection is one of the hardest things for people to deal with. Rejection, abandonment, the sense of fear of loneliness, I suppose. So that's, yeah. And also just the selfish aspect of wanting something, and the other person being like, no, not going to get to you. Yeah. The thing that you want. So that's why people just find it. But you're right, it also shouldn't be, it's, I think, a bit immature that people kind of have this, they want to put the shame on people like, oh, you got friendzoned, you know, you should feel bad. That's that then you make people want to do anything possible to avoid that, which is exactly. Yeah. It's interesting because, yeah, like Summer, oh my gosh, this whole movie, right? I'm like up and down, up and down with her. But in the end, I remember they meet at the park and she's like, I was hoping to see you here. Yeah. And she's like, it's one of my favorite places since you introduced me to it. And you can really tell that she misses him. Yeah. And cares about him. And I felt so bad because she was even afraid to approach him because she knows that this person is so angry with her. And, but she just wants his friendship. Yeah. That's a good point. I think the first time I did feel like she was more in the wrong. But if she was someone who was a, I feel like I want to say fly by night. I'm not sure if that's the, someone who's very whimsical will drop someone when it's not serving them anyway. You know that kind of thing that will just kind of use people in that way. But if she was like that, actually, she wouldn't then try, every time they bumped into each other on the train, she wanted to get coffee with them. And then at the end, which is great, where they're at the park, she also wouldn't be trying to reconnect with them and be like, are we cool?  And you know, she wouldn't do that if she was just using him or whatever, right? Yeah. And sometimes it's hard to explain yourself to people. You know, like even if, with friendships, let's never mind a romantic relationships. Sometimes you meet people and they are so drawn to you. And you are maybe someone who's really good at interacting with different people from different walks of life. Maybe you're someone who's so good at tapping into people's emotions and people opening up to you.   They want to hang out with you forever. They want you guys to be friends, but you don't want to be because they weren't reciprocating. They weren't reciprocating because they aren't like you. So this person, in their mind, you had this fantastic, incredible interaction. But for you, you were just really working. You weren't really getting anything in return.  And that happens a lot. Or like, you know, you have friends, you socialize with friends.  That's it. Because there's so many things about you that they don't know, that you don't share, that you don't feel comfortable to share with them. And so I think that's where that's how we should look at it when you're watching this movie. Because yeah, you can, you can be in a relationship with someone and maybe even love them, but not feel completely fulfilled by them, enough to say, I want to settle down with this, with you. And I think with Summer, she knew that for herself. She knew that, yes, she probably loved Tom and didn't want to say love, because then it would play into what his, his fantasy of what they could be. But and so that's why she was so hard-fast on, like, I like to make sure that he knows, like, this is not going to go anywhere. But I think that she loved him, but knew that it wasn't going to go anywhere. She couldn't settle around him in the way that she wants for herself. Yeah, like, well, she ultimately learns that, right? Because in the, before she meets the husband, she truly thought that no way, love does not exist. You know, and I think that most likely people have experienced that too. And it's, it's well done in that, uh, I think, I know for me, probably a lot of people have been in both positions. I've been in Tom's position a couple times where I thought, oh man, like, it just seems like, you know, we're the exact same person. And then you get these ideas of maybe this could be really great. It could be really, and they just totally think, oh yeah, that's cool that, you know, we both happen to know the same whatever. And it's just, it's nothing more than that.  This could be something really magical, you know, or this is one in a lifetime thing, or whatever. And then I've been on Summer's End too, where you were surprised when someone, you're like, oh, really? Because I was, I was, sorry, I do not think, you spend a lot of time thinking about that, that memory or that, that time we did the thing, because I haven't thought about it since. Yeah. So I've been on, been on both sides. Yeah, me too. So the human brain is, yeah. Yeah, I've also been on the side where I had a friend and she introduced me as her best friend. And I was taken aback when she said that. Honestly, I was like, I'm her best friend. This is how I gauge whether or not a relationship, platonic or otherwise, for me, can ever become a solid relationship that I want to last forever, to be honest, is that, whether or not I'm able to be myself with the person completely, if I find that I'm kind of restricting myself as I interact or holding back the kind of information that I'm sharing, censoring myself and a lot of things that I do, if I find that I'm doing that, then I'm not going to, then I know that this is not the right thing, the right relationship for me. Yeah, it's a hard people's emotions, people's feelings of saying, I don't think we're as close as you think we are. Yeah. That's always going to, you know, that's not hard to say to someone or to really, you know, without being able to be totally honest about it, taking emotions out of it, you can't really. Yeah. To be like, it seems like you need me more than, or vice versa, or like, you know, how do you see that? Because I see it this way. Yeah. That's tough for anybody to do. Yeah. Everybody deserves to service their own personal needs. Summer does, and sometimes it hurts people when you do do that. But at the same time, long-term, I think it would hurt both of them. Yeah. Thomas' agency, it's on him to realize that, again, his expectations were different. So it's not really on her. He can, he can get upset with her. He can, you know, feel like she's, she's in the wrong. She's a bad person. Look what she's doing to me. But that's not taking ownership of what he's doing to cause his pain. Exactly. Yeah. So no villains here. No villains. Just two people. A lot of times there aren't any villains. Yeah, there are no villains, just lessons. Just lessons. Honestly. Yeah. There are only villains if there are lessons left unlearned. Great movie. I know a lot to chew on. And yeah, let us know what you think. Yeah, what do you think? I think moral of the story for yourself. You know, if someone that you loved and you wanted them to love you in the same way that you love, that you love them doesn't give you the same back.  Don't, don't villainize the person, especially when they're honest with you. It's okay. You can love and not be loved. It happens. You think you found the one and then you don't want to have to go back into the searching. That's what you got to do sometimes. And then you'll find someone that wants to be with you in the exact same way. Yeah. And that's, that'll be, that's, that's worth it. So that's about it. That's about it. Till next time. Bye. That's a wrap.