Live from Toronto, Canada, it's theCUBE. Covering Blockchain Futurist Conference 2018. Brought to you by theCUBE. Liberal, welcome back to live coverage day two of theCUBE here in Toronto, Ontario and Canada for the untraceable Blockchain Futurist Conference. Wall-to-wall covers day two, a lot of action going on, tons of great content, tons of great after-hours networking, just overall great vibe. In light of the market, crashing, Bitcoin stabilizing, some old coins getting crushed. We got it all before you here. I'm John Furrier, your host for theCUBE and our next guest is Nathan Ethan, who's the Chief Investment Officer, Arcadia Crypto Advisors Ventures, Arcadia Crypto Ventures. Welcome to theCUBE, good to see you. Hey, good to see you too, John. Thank you for having me here. Cube alumni in the know. Okay, so first of all, you're an investor in crypto. Everyone's running for the hills. A dip is happening, a crash, if something to say. Your perspective, what's happening in the market? See, happening in the market, so typically, just like in any asset class, there was a huge run-up that happened very quickly. It didn't go up slow, all right? And so the geeks were in early. The libertarians came in after that. Then there were speculators. And the retail market also came in and they all came in together, let's say in the December, after the November Thanksgiving weekend, everybody learned about cryptos, they came in. All right, the next set of guys haven't come in. All right? There's nothing to hold them there. Nobody's holding them there. And they were expecting the institutional investors to come in, and that hasn't happened due to custody problems, ETF problems, and all that stuff. All right, it started going down. The weekends are folding. The weekends are keeping on folding. And as with any technology, any bubble, people have come in, now they feel that, okay, the world is coming to an end and they are selling all their stuff. All the ICOs that have raised money in Ether, selling the Ether. All this together is pushing it down. And everybody's waiting for that. The next set of investors are the, every 10X, an asset goes up. There's a new set of guys who are supposed to come in. And this time it hasn't come in and they're waiting for that. You were on a panel here at the events on a lot of different panels. But one panel I watched, you were on. You talked about the Chokin model. People were holding Ether. It was kind of a debate. And Bradley Rodder, another investor, was saying, hey, too many Chokins out there. You had a different perspective. But one of the things I want to get your reaction to is that people who held on to the Ether lost their runway. And that creates a harder road to hoe. So people were converting to fiat. This is a big issue. How are we going to get by this? Just hold on to the Ether, more people going to come in. The dynamics of investing in this Chokin model, has it changed? How are you looking at it? And obviously how do you help startups? Okay. So regarding a lot of Chokins, the first thing is there are a lot of Chokins out there. See that is going to happen. It's like in the 1999, okay? A lot of websites and a lot of internet companies, pet.com, everybody is an internet company. Same way, everybody is a Chokin. 95 to 99% of them are going to go away. And the good ones will rise from those ashes, okay? Now regarding runway, a lot of these projects have pretty much raised enough money for 50 years of runway, okay? So it has crashed to one fifth. Okay, they have 10 years worth of runway. Typically in the olden days, a small company with an idea or an MVP was max going to raise one million to two or three million, right? Yeah. You know, all of them anyway have that even after Ether has crashed. I'm saying just don't panic, okay? You still have 10 years worth of runway. Utilize that, build a product because the high period may be over where you can just raise money on a white paper.  So this is where we're going to see the great founders, to the average and the bad ones where they've hit a wall, they don't know what to do, they'll fold their hands and walk away. Really good founders, they're resilient. They will, no matter how hard they push to the wall, they're going to come up with the product, you see? And they're going to try to meet customer demands. They're going to get to that feedback loop, check what the customer wants, and start delivering. So basically what you're saying is there's so much money being raised, and I agree with you by the way, if you go to the classic venture capital route, if you had a PowerPoint or a prototype or even some working product with recurring revenue, you know, your series A preferred stock financing will be anywhere from three to 15 million. Oh my God, yeah. And that's high end. That's a high end. 15 million would be on the high end. That's a high end. I see us are raising 50 million, in some cases 70 plus million. So even if you cut that in half, it's still a better outcome on the front, first round. I agree with that, so I think that's interesting. The other one that you mentioned is that I think is a dynamic that we're seeing here at the show is, in the hallways, everybody's talking about flight to quality. And I was talking yesterday on the wrap up with Dave Vellante that you can tell the good deals from the bad deals by, is the venture architecture working for the coin, or is the coin working for the venture architecture? And so this flight to quality, combined with how people are optimizing their build out, it's critical. Yes. Talk about some things that you're seeing with this flight to quality. Is there anything in particular, is it blockchain, is it token economics, where's the quality deals from your perspective? See, I feel quality lies in the founder always, okay? The founding team, because the idea really, you know, if you really ask me, what is an idea?  Guys who sit there can come up with so many ideas, right? That's what ideas are, okay? Now taking these ideas to fruition, like building it, there's a capital raising part, okay? Now a lot of people are good at capital raising, they're raising money, and a lot of capital coming in. That's awesome, because you need capital to attract talent to the space, because a lot of talent who are maybe in astrophysics, or in mechanical engineering, you want that talent to come here and come with ideas and build the stuff, okay? The capital has come in. Now once the capital has come in, you really have to build the stuff. Even after you build the stuff, you have to go find the customer, right? You have to go and acquire customers, and all these three things coming together are so hard in reality. And that's why the venture capital always gave a little bit of money to make sure that these guys are not wasting the whole thing in there, right? Well, the other thing I want to get on a few is here, is that in the old days, Silicon Valley, you'd have to move there, the VCs were there. We're now talking about a global phenomenon, and the capital formation is both inside the United States and outside the United States, and certainly inside the United States, you're starting to see the formation around traditional structures, security choking, which is more like, it feels like a security, more of a third financing model. Equity's now involved. Outside the United States, a booming utility token market. Your thoughts on how that's progressing, still open, still crazy, what's your thoughts? So the capital model, the beauty that has happened today is, earlier you had to pitch to 200 VCs, or 300 VCs to get one guy to put money into it. Most of the time, they'll be wasting your time, all right?  You couldn't get it from a small enthusiast of your project to give you 500 bucks or 1,000 bucks. So now you have that option. Okay, now that option is being cut by regulation where the SEC and people like that come in saying, oh, you can't do that. It has to be a security token. All right, let's make it a security token. The moment you make it a security token, my question is, can you raise money from outside? Are you stopping that? Then again, it doesn't really make sense. You're cutting the small investor of you, the chance for him to buy into a guru, okay? It was only the VCs like Sequoia or somebody like that who could access a deal like Google. Now you have a chance for something like Google to come out with the common man who's putting 500, like Ethereum. There was no venture capitalist or Wall Streeter who got involved in Ethereum. The real money was made by very common people who supported a decentralized world computer. Well, we're seeing VCs get it now. Mark entries went entries and Horowitz is getting involved. We're starting to see VCs dabble in there. Has that changed the investment dynamic at all? It has because the VCs, they have this feeling they've missed out, right? So now they're putting five and $10 million into a project, valuing a project of 300 million. It changes the dynamics because now all these guys, like there are so many projects that are raising like 100 million, okay? Because the VCs or these private investors are giving 10, 15, 20 million. Like Andreessen, for example, they've raised a $300 million fund. They can't invest 10,000 to 50,000 to 100,000, right? They have to push 10 million to manage the money. That is skewing stuff. And I personally, I'm not very interested in those kind of projects because it's without a community power at that time. So I don't know how the token economics is going to be fruitful for the second investor, the third investor. And Block Tower, we found out yesterday is also investing and kind of putting a fund together. A venture fund, it's interesting. See how that shakes that. I wonder if it's going to change the dynamic. You mentioned community, obviously a big part of that. Big community here at the Futurist event in Toronto. So they got a Canadian culture, a lot of Ethereum DNA here in this area. What are you hearing at this event? What are some of the things that you're hearing in the hallways? Obviously you've been on some panels at this event and you're highly networked. What are you hearing? What's, your ears to the ground, what's it telling you? All right, you were talking about Block Tower and Ari Paul, yes, they are doing a venture fund and it's great, he's a very, very smart investor and they're going to do very well. On the ground, so most of the questions right now are coming. So we've reached the point that, okay, we have the block chains or the bitcoins. We want it to be faster, all right? Everybody's looking for scalability. Who can bring scalability? The EOS guys are out there, they're saying they can do, you know what, 5,000 or 10,000 or 100,000 transactions per second. So scalability is a very, very big thing. I personally consider something like interoperability bigger, interoperability in the sense. All right, so now you have these multiple chains. It's just like multiple types of phones. Now imagine you had an AT&T phone and you couldn't call the Verizon customer, all right? We are at that point, we have all these chains. There's Ethereum, there's One Chain, there's EOS. Okay, I build, let's say a distributed app, let's say it's a poker app on Ethereum. But I can't play with the guy who is on EOS, right? What if he also wants to play poker and there's a poker app? Is there somewhere we can make this integrated and interoperable? Now to make it interoperable, if you go into details, there are assets, there are tokens on both sides. How can we transfer tokens from one chain to the other chain, making sure there's no double spend happening? I mean, there's two things. Obviously, consumability, making it easy to use one and two, I think you're right on. Interoperability is huge, you got to have that. Oh, interfaces, as you said. Interfaces is big, to make it simple. It's still the geek's area. A lot of people are using command line prompts. You can't expect the common man sitting at home. It's just like email, email was there from 1978. It's only when all these tools, like it became 94 and the browser came in that people started using it. So those things have to come in. A lot of work's got to get done, certainly on the blockchain side. Well, great to have you on. Get to see you. Congratulations on your panels and just after you're doing here. Good job. Thanks for coming on. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Any predictions, by the way? You want to do it? Any predictions? I don't know, I'm not a predictions guy. I just go with the market. Price of Bitcoin, 20,000? Oh, no, I never get into those predictions. I don't want to get it. I think it's possible that the bear market can continue for a longer time based on the fact that the newer money cannot come in. It has happened before. Bitcoin has fallen so many times at the 70, 80% range and then it stayed stagnant for a year before the next run up came. Yeah. And it certainly, we're both in the shops, and we're long. Yeah. Nathan, thanks for coming on. It's Cube Coverage here live in Toronto, Ontario, Cube Coverage with the untraceables, blockchain, Futurist Conference here, two days, day two, Cube Coverage. We'll be back after this short break. Thanks for watching.


Okay, here we are, having a good time on Monday. This is Mina, Marco and me on Monday, talking about energy on Monday. And we're happy to be together again, we like being together. So on the right you see a picture of Marco Mangelsdorf in Prohibition Solar in Hilo. And in the middle, it's a gender sandwich, I might add. It's Mina Morita, former chair of the PUC, and now energy dynamics consultant. We are happy to have you guys around to tell us what's going on in energy. So, Marco, why don't you lead off? What's the news? Jay Fidel, Jay Fidel, every Monday you greet me, smart and right, wise and bright, you look happy to see me. Yes, exactly. In case you're wondering, that's my slightly altered rendition of Adelweiss from The Sound of Music. And we do have a better picture, which we're going to show later. Oh goodness, Jay, I feel honored and it's a real treat to be able to speak to two of my favorite energy people now three times in a row over the past several Mondays. So I'm practically speechless. There's so much to talk about and such exciting times in the energy world. It's almost, where does one start, where does one start? Maybe I'll start with kind of my continuing crusade on what the state can and should be doing with greater gusto as far as weaning us off of our substantial dependency on imported fossil fuels for transportation. There was a piece in today's advertiser by Katie Mickelsass about Par-Hawaii, which is a patrolling supplier to the state, saying that they will quote a just to a switch away from oil and keeping with the state's goal to eliminate fossil fuel use, close quote. And they don't really say how they're going to do that, except that they want to be part of the solution. But I just continue to be puzzled as to how we can make greater progress towards reducing the 60% of all the petroleum that comes into the state is for transportation and of course for inter-island transportation and ground fuel and of course inter-island barge service. So I still don't hear many answers out there or real proposed solutions. I wasn't at the Verge conference a month or so ago when I believed there was some discussion on transportation, but I'm eager for better ideas and more implementable plans to go in that direction because we're just not making much progress. Marco, you should plan to come to Clean Energy Day on August 16th. A big part of that is about transportation. And maybe you get some ideas there. If not, then you can certainly watch the video of the stream. But let me respond on the article you mentioned, very interesting. Katie talking about the sailor, the sailor who shouldn't fight with the waves. And the metaphor is that the coming of Clean Energy is a wave that we shouldn't be fighting with and they shouldn't be fighting with it. And I thought that was very poetic. On the other hand, I looked through for an example of what they might do and I didn't see anything. So clearly this is something that we ought to follow up in our coverage about PAR and find out what they actually do because it's not easy to figure out something for a petroleum. They're heavily invested in petroleum assets. They're sort of a reseller, I think. And so they could resell other things. There was an implication in that article, possibly LNG, don't you think? Yeah, and I guess I just still remain puzzled and hopefully Mena can provide some insight on this. I remain puzzled as far as where we are collectively at regarding LNG, I mean with the departure of next era, lock stock and barrels, does this essentially mean in the cancellation, HECO's cancellation of that contract with Fortis in Canada? I mean, is this essentially the beginning of the end of their efforts and perhaps Hawaii gas's efforts and others' efforts to make LNG a player out here? Or is it too soon to tell? I mean, when you've got a governor, a chief executive who has been very clear in his opposition along with a number of the environmental groups, I mean, how we kind of cross the proverbial Rubicon in terms of we're not going to go down, we're not going to cross that LNG river and we're going to pull back and we're going to go in a different direction.  Do you think we're there? Well, I think we have to look at the situation for Hawaii gas and, you know, what are the options for them as they move forward to try to lower cross, bring in more less volatile fuels for themselves too? So, you know, well, we might have crossed Hawaii electric out of the picture. We forget about the needs of Hawaii gas and how they can service their customers with a lower pricing and a fuel that is not dependent on oil pricing and maybe less volatile. And again, how do we deal with their dependency on the refinery's forced synthetic natural gas to meet their demand? So, you know, it's a pretty complicated picture out there on how these fuels are interrelated. And, you know, the other thing I go back to is how do we address the refinery tax force report which came out about two years ago when we thought one or both of the refineries was going out of business? I mean, there's still some critical questions there to be answered, one being the single point mooring system controlled by the refinery, which limits options for us. Well, we ought to have Hawaii gas come on the show and talk to them, see, you know, how they feel about this. I think what's threatening about it is that David E. Gay made two statements, which, you know, sort of pulled a rug out from a lot of people who were charged with making the determination on those two questions, namely Nextera and LNG. And he had a lot to say by implication anyway to the PUC about Nextera. And so his wish was granted on the Nextera opinion, and he also made this LNG opinion. And I wonder whether his wish will be granted on that too, either by the PUC or by, you know, the fact that people don't want to cross him. But the fact is that I never heard a reason. Did you guys hear a reason why Hawaiian Electric pulled the plug on that contract, other than perhaps that Nextera wasn't going to be around to help fund it? Is there another reason? Well, I think it was tied to, again, in the PSIP, if I remember correctly, they were supposed to bring in a combined cycle turbine to be run on LNG, and that was one of the ways that they could offer customer savings. And now without Nextera there, the equation changes because, you know, again, they don't have this combined cycle turbine and they don't have the buying power of Nextera.  Well, the arguments for it and against it for that matter are still the same. But, you know, it's not clear to me that that move by Hawaiian Electric actually represents an end of the initiative. Marco, do you think it might still be alive somehow? Did LNG, the contract for Hawaiian Electric to purchase LNG from a mainland company is still alive? Is that what you're asking? Yeah. I really don't know, Jay. I mean, I know they put a fair amount of effort into going down the LNG path, and that's why I posed the question that I did. I just don't know kind of where we are collectively in terms of continuing at all down that path or whether we're not. And I think your idea to bring somebody like Alicia Moy, who's head of Hawaii Gas on the show, hopefully in the weeks to come would make a lot of sense, and it could be Mina, Marco, Jay, and Alicia. I think it would be great to have Alicia on either there in the studio or by phone because she'd be a great person to have on and speak from the perspective of Hawaii Gas as far as kind of where they're at these days. Yeah. Mina, Marco, me, and Moy on Monday. Got it? Very good. That's another end. Well done. Okay, let's talk about... Go ahead. What's missing here is, you know, if no LNG, what's Plan D? So what is the EGATE administration plan to move us to 100% renewable in a affordable way, you know, with customers dating as we move forward? And that's what we don't have. We don't have a clear Plan D. You know, what we've had is a no-to-LNG, no-to-next-dera, but we've never heard what Plan D is. I think that's true. When is it coming? Has anybody said they're going to provide a Plan B? Is anybody working on a Plan B either directly or through one of those consultants who writes lengthy reports? Does anybody know? You guys know? Well, it's not as grand as a Plan B, but I mean, there is the possibility from what I understand of being able to use propane as a substitute fuel for an oil-based fuel in power generation that would not necessarily require, in fact, it would not require as an expensive investment in infrastructure as you would need for LNG. And you can, at least in certain combustion turbines, you can switch over the fuel source from NAPSA or some type of oil-based product to propane without a whole lot of fuss. In other words, it's not super, super expensive. If the case can be made that there could be near-term and let's say mid-term savings by going from one fossil fuel to another. So I believe that that's something that has been looked at by a number of parties, so that doesn't really constitute perhaps a Plan B, per se. But, you know, being someone who's got his kind of nose to the energy grindstone on a daily basis in terms of living and breathing, and a business that is dependent on revenue, not in three years or 19 years or 20, 45 years, but in the here and now. I think looking at a shorter term, not so much solutions, but shorter term measures that we can take to go with a cheaper and with a cleaner burning of fossil fuel source, at least for power generation, is certainly worth looking at. It looks a little bleak, though, in terms of the fact that, you know, we've been talking about LNG for at least five years, and may I say we don't have a decision on it yet. A or an A, it's not clear. I have a question for Marco.   So, you know, appropriate prices are still tied to oil pricing. And so one of the things that was attractive about LNG was, and the pricing of LNG was it was always sold at a discount through oil. So how...  Well, the problem is, you know, this kind of thing has to be socialized, just the way LNG had to be socialized. And it's hard to socialize any initiative in Hawai'ine, because, you know, everybody comes out of the woodwork and they have reasons against it, and we never seem to settle down. I mean, we had that IRP process that had 80 interveners, stakeholder people, and went on for years and it really never resolved anything. And I think we're killing time.  It takes a long time. I think we need leadership on this. And the first thing I'm going to do when I'm elected governor is I'm going to take a short break. That's what I'm going to do. We're going to take a break now. Aloha. My name is Reg Baker, and I'm the host of Business in Hawai'i with Reg Baker. Business in Hawai'i is a program that has positive stories about business in Hawai'i. We're tired of hearing a negativity and why it's the wrong place to have a business. We talk about the positive reasons for having a business in Hawai'i and how to be successful. We broadcast live every Thursday at 2 o'clock. We look forward to seeing you. Aloha. Hi, I'm Ethan Allen, host of Lakeable Science on Think Tech Hawai'i. I hope you'll join me each Friday afternoon as we explore the amazing world of science. We bring on interesting guests, scientists from all walks of life, from all walks of science, to talk about the work they do, why they do it, and moreover, why it's interesting to you. What science really means to your life, its impacts on you, how it's shaping the world around you, and why you should care about it. I do hope you'll join me every Friday at 2 p.m. for Lakeable Science. We're talking in the break about the need to go directly to renewables. So we have 2045 and everybody sees 2045. It's not on my watch. It's way out there. It's way out for my kids. I'll be gone by 2045, so I'm not going to get too concerned about this. So the metronome ticks every day, it ticks, and really very little happens in terms of a collaborative decision, a collaborative process even, to get somewhere.  You have to avoid anything that gets in the way. Distractions are not permitted, and we find a way to get there as soon as possible. And some people say that as soon as possible means just use the renewables and pay the cost, even though it's going to be formidable. Why not do that? Go ahead, Nina. Because you're spending more money than you have to, and the technologies are changing. We're in an uncertain period, so are we going to make these huge investments and be committed to it for the next couple of generations when technologies changing and costs are dropping? Marco, you have... I'm sure you have a plan, I don't know if you can tell us about all of it, but with HIEC, if you were able to get into position on HIEC, what would the plan be for HIEC? Well, I think I would look quite a bit at what the folks at KIUC, Kauai Island Utility Cooperative on Kauai have been doing, which is being, I think by all accounts, more nimble, more aggressive, quicker when it comes to bringing online a utility-scale solar at cost-effective pricing. And I think one of the trends certainly has been, not just in Hawaii, but also parts of the mainland as well, over the past couple of years, is that net energy metering has come under much more scrutiny in terms of, well, it's achieved the desired purpose of mainlining, essentially, mainlining rooftop solar, making it more cost-effective and affordable, and that, therefore, we need to look much more closely at the options in terms of bringing on on-board cheaper renewable energy sources. And that's what KIUC has done. I mean, they have been much more aggressive, as I said, in terms of utility-scale solar, and they are moving forward with their next project, their next utility-scale PV project, which will have the first, and, in my understanding, the first dispatchable battery bank, meaning simply that they can store power during the day when the sun is shining and have it be available for their 33,000 or so utility customers, members of the co-op, when the sun don't shine. So I think that's certainly something that's not just pie-in-the-sky, what folks are doing on the mainland, but also what's happening here in our very own state. So I see that as certainly an avenue worth pursuing with greater cutback. Is KIUC including LNG and alternative fuels like that? I don't believe that LNG is part of their vision. I don't recall seeing anything to that effect. By the way, what's his name? Bissell David Bissell, is it? From KIUC, the CEO. We'll be speaking at Clean Energy Day on August 16th. It'd be very interesting to hear what he has to say about that. I'm sorry. The difference between Hawaii Island and Kauai are huge. In terms of resources, when you look at Hawaii Island, they have resources like geothermal, really good wind, good hydro, and biomass as potentials. Where on Kauai, we're kind of stuck with solar, mainly because of the bird issues. But one of the things that KIUC has going for them is they do have the right kinds of generators. They have these quick start generators that can respond to the variability of all renewables. So the characteristics aren't exactly the same. And with the dispatchable solar... I hear what you're saying is we need to approach this island by island because of the difference in renewables and resources on each island. Does that mean that the idea of a cable from one island to another is dead? Again, without any kind of clear direction from this administration and with the PUC relying on this administration so much, it's hard to tell what the status is. Well, you know, it strikes me, and I was going to pose this to both of you, is so we ramped up to the next era decision. We waited for it, we clambered for it, and then it happened. And then the fallout was that the next era pulled up stakes, left town, probably not very pleased about the treatment they got. And they immediately got into a deal in Texas for 18 billion, which by my calculation is nearly four times the amount of money that they were, well, more than four times. The amount of money they were spending or planned to spend here on the Hawaiian Electric. How about that? Not that they didn't have the resources. And then the Hawaiian Electric terminated its LNG contract. So, and then, you know, there's a silence, isn't there? There's a sound of silence now about where this is all pointing, where it's going. What is the next, you know, all we have is reflection, but we don't have anybody pointing the way forward. What's the next sound we should expect to hear? What's the next sound we should be hearing on the way to 2045? Well, Jay, what is the sound when a power plant shuts down and makes not a sound if there's no one there to hear it, make not a sound? It's very quiet. And it's also dark. Especially at peace hours. Let's forget we all are luminous beings, though, right, guys? Yeah. Well, you know, energy nationally and locally is, to me, it's in a holding pattern right now. It's a wait-and-see pattern and everybody's waiting for direction. And, gee, I'm concerned that the metronome is still ticking. And I don't, you know, where is this, where is this going to come from? Is it going to come from D-Ped after a study? Is it going to come from the executive, the governor? Is it going to come from the PUC? It's come from the utility. Is it going to come from the legislature? You know, where is it going to come from? You know, and that brings to me, to my mind, Jay, and Mina, is the image of a commercial-sized kitchen where you've got many, many cooks in the kitchen that all have an idea as to what they want the recipe to be for what they're going to be serving as the afternoon or evening meal. And they have different visions of what the final product should be, and they brought their own kitchen utensils and their pots and their pans and their chef hats and so forth. But there is not consensus on what that meal is going to be, that they're going to be presenting to people. And I think that's really where we are. I mean, there are so many chefs in our proverbial kitchen, from the PUC to people in the legislature to stakeholders, the utility companies, the environmental groups, industry associations and groups, chamber of commerce. I mean, how in the world? I mean, that's the essence of democracy, of course, right? The sausage-making to switch my food metaphor a little bit. But I mean, it's pretty daunting in terms of so many folks in the kitchen, but there's not a consensus on what the recipe is going to be. And we continue to muddle forward as we have for decades now. We're making some incremental progress, but are we making as much progress as we need to make? And I think the answer is no, but then what's the alternative? What's the plan B, as Meena mentioned? So it's kind of a very optimistic note. I guess an interesting question is, what happens? Wait one, what happens if we are relegated to muddling through? What kind of environment is that? Are we going to go back to the way it was, which was a lot of backbiting, I thought, attack the utility? And I think that's already starting to happen, I kind of feel it. And so are we going to have a better time? So what is the state of muddle?  Well, I wanted to go back to the commercial kitchen analogy. The thing is, the PUC, when I was there, along with commissioners Akiba and Chastley, we created the, not necessarily the recipe book. Well, we did create the recipe book with the inclination. And that was to give guidance. And we had a menu in there with various options to give direction, not only to the utility, but all the individual cooks. And I'm not even sure if that's still in play, because so many elements of it have been removed from it politically. You think that the cooks have taken your very thoughtful, well-thought-out recipe book, Meena, and said, oh, well done. Thank you so much for your contribution, given a cursory look and put it on the high shelf of the bookshelf, where it's now been gathering dust. What they did was they only took the piece that they wanted. They only took the dessert. And they forgot about the substance in meal, you know. Who would ever have expected that our show, Meena, Marco, Me on Monday, would have devolved into a food show. But there you have it. Energy food, it's all related. I guess it's all part of sustainability. So we'll take a break. I hope I can get you guys back together soon. And we can do some more ruminating about the condition of the industry and the way of the future. Thank you so much, Marco Mangostorf and Meena Morita. It's been great to have this discussion as always. Well, you guys are the sometimes of my life on a Monday. Thanks so much. Thanks so much.


It's now my great pleasure to introduce Ms. Amina Mohamed, who's of course the Deputy Secretary-General of the United Nations and Chair of the United Nations Sustainable Development Group. Previously, she served as Minister of Environment for the Federal Republic of Nigeria and as a special advisor to the Secretary-General, Banki Moon. At that time, she led the process that resulted in the global agreement around the 2030 Agenda and the Sustainable Development Goals. So it's our great honour, Amina Mohamed, to have you here today to speak to the International Conference on Sustainable Development. And can I start by asking what is the news from the United Nations, from the SDG summit and how do you feel about the week? Thank you very much, John. And thank you to everyone who's in the audience, both there and online. It's fantastic to join you again. Well, the feeling around the UN is one of determination to really pivot from talk and perhaps talk around the 15% of the targets reached, which is pretty miserable, but to find some momentum in the solutions that are there. So we're coming out with new momentum. We're coming out with a lot of hope, direction and a concrete to-do list. We've had over 5,000 people from civil society, academia, women's groups who've come in to the UN over the weekend and they have connected, they've engaged, they've shared, they've recommitted to the SDG promise and they've given us a lot of energy and they're certainly not leaving here without anything to do. And with that, it has been a clear direction. The political declaration that we had and it was hard to come by, it was almost like being in 2015 all over again, does convey the commitment of governments to deliver on the SDGs, but better still, it tackles that means of implementation, the finance, technology, and the trade that needs to happen. So they did give us a nod for the SDG stimulus, which will help us to tackle the debt pressures. It'll help us to look at how we are going to recapitalize and reform the MDBs. And of course, in the longer term, fixing the global financial system. And that's all 193 countries agreeing that. And then last, as the SDG closed the summit, he left everyone with a to-do list, over 110 heads of state and government, really pivoting for commitments to concrete actions. And on finance, it will be about how we translate more concretely the SDG stimulus into action and it will be what we go to the annual meetings with, it's what we'll go to COP with. So before the end of the year, we will have a really clear momentum of how we can go about some of these actions that need to be taken on finance. On implementation, we've seen a lot of momentum behind about six different transitions that we've spoken to, from food, systems, energy, digital education, social protection and to nature. So lots to take away, determination and grit there. It is the stakeholders really that have provided that momentum and really countries have heard and we're hearing them ask our country teams, the UN, okay, how can we take this forward? Well, as you said, Deputy Secretary-General, we've got a long way to go with only 15% of the commitments on track. But out of the last few days, have you heard solutions that are particularly inspiring and you think can be followed across the world to help us increase that implementation much faster? Yes, we have and we continue to harvest them. I'm just coming out of a room on the discussions for how we're going to operationalize the loss and damage fund that was pretty historic coming out of COP 27 before we get into COP 26. And so we're still harvesting. We did see eight member states announce concrete plans to drive the energy transitions that are so urgent right now in our climate action. We also heard very clearly how economic policies are being anchored in preserving nature for the benefit of also a recognition that the triple planet planetary crisis goes beyond climate. It is also nature and pollutions. And then building on the July food systems summit stock take which was really quite amazing. The number of plans that are now in engagement with companies on how to transform those pathways from production to the supply chain and access to finance. Really good combinations of seeing the programs and the financing. But also we've seen data being picked up here and technology. This is really important for us. We've seen with technology the use of AI in the food systems. Again, commitments to support that in countries. So when someone's talking about a smart farm it's not just a theory that they can actually take that out there and show you how that could be done. We've also seen commitments made to the urgency of investing in students and teachers. And these are a number of new UN tools that were unveiled to support member states on delivering the commitments they made last year in transforming education. There was a high level panel meeting of teachers and this is really quite important because in transforming education teachers really have to be at the forefront and sometimes the discussion is about technology being at the forefront but they've all got to go hand in hand but we've got to have a transformation also of the teaching constituency. We had seven countries announced their progress on what we have which is a global accelerator. That's really about enabling framework for developing decent jobs and social protection. And those countries include in Malawi, Namibia, Indonesia. So with that you have a better discussion on those decent jobs and how they're targeted with some of these green transitions that we have. We saw the launch of the SDG Digital Acceleration Agenda and here two digital use cases for each SDG and new pledges from our ITU and the Inter-American Development Bank. They're really stepping up to investing in more digital solutions and you'll know that we've got the digital compact that the SG will pull into our common agenda next year to help us put some guardrails around what is an incredible potential but could also be pretty dark. And then I'll say that a recurring theme through the Governor through the weekend was about effective institutions and multi-level governance. Local 2030 coalition got a lot of attraction. So did the power of data and we saw 15 national data partnerships announced to revolutionize the decision making and we saw again a lot more that's being done in the public sector. Finally I would just say that we took another step forward towards unlocking the SDG stimulus. It's not been easy. We thank Jeff Sachs for the work that he also put into this to give it ambition and now the follow-up is about how we can take pieces of that and at least make the $500 billion we're talking about available to developing countries and really robust discussions with the bank, with the IMF and with other financial players. One of the things that was in the political declaration that I found really interesting was the commitment to SDG localization and to working with local governments and local communities for the SDGs. Do you think there's real opportunities to boost that as we look at the next 15 years? It's been the most difficult part of this agenda to discuss because if you want to do Local 2030 you've got to do it with institutions. This is about the foundation of a nation that is building itself up and out and including everyone. But you know those institutions are pretty weak and people don't feel they've got the time to invest in them. But now we're coming back to see that without that we're never going to build this house. So we have seen traction. We've seen traction from mayors in cities. We've seen traction from parliamentarians at the local level who are asking us to engage through some of the sectors. But we've also seen education and health and these are all local and basic first charges to your social contract. And so I think yes, finally we are turning the tide to get back to basics to start from our foundations in Local 2030. And I think that will come out and it won't, you know, there is not a one size fits all. The regions differ in how they deal with this, countries differ. But we're getting a lot more specificity to it now and the UN consortium of agencies and stakeholders will carry that forward. I think we're going to start seeing that in some of the VNRs that we bring to the UN every year around July. We've started to see local VNRs, Local 2031. So yeah, there's a lot of work to do at the local level. Take us to scale. We mustn't lose its connection to the rest of what happens at the national level and then plugs and plays the international opportunities. But short, long answer to that is yes, we're very enthusiastic about what's happening at the local level. Next year around this time we'll be having the summit of the future. What's your hope for that? And perhaps you could tell us a bit about the sum of the future and what your hope for it is. Well, the SG put on the table at the request of member states a couple of years ago. UN at 75, what next? And that's really what the summit of the future is about. It's giving us thoughts that we're witnessing some major changes. We're also witnessing that, you know, what we've been doing in 1945 is no longer fit for purpose in 2023 nor will it be in the future to embrace and respond to this new era of technology, the connectivity, climate, climate change is crossing borders at speeds that we cannot keep up with but populations that will be moving into cities. So it's a different remit that we're going to have to respond to in institutions and of course financing frameworks, peace agendas, no longer working and we can see this collapsing everywhere we're 75 years old on our human rights charter this year and we're seeing rights regressing for women, for young people. So the common agenda just brings that common thread of all those issues we see ourselves facing individually and collectively. And I would say there are probably three big issues that we will carry forward next year. One of course around the means of implementation addressing the fact that international financial architecture is broken. It's not fit for purpose. It doesn't do justice to an equal world that doesn't leave anyone behind. And that's okay because it wasn't meant to when it was designed in 1945. But today we have to imagine that we woke up and faced our 8 billion population with what we have today, potentials and challenges and crisis. What sort of an international financial architecture would we design? It's not tweaking the existing. It's really having a major overhaul to make it more responsive. And then we've got to face technology and the digital era. And that's moving so fast, whether it is AI or quantum computing, whatever it is, there are no guardrails for society to benefit the full potentials. There's so much more concern and a distraction on what could go wrong. And so here again, in our common agenda, we want to be able to put the digital era to the best use possible for our young people, especially our women, close the divides, but put those guardrails around it and that's in the digital compacts that we are putting on the table for people to get their teeth into. Last but not least, the context of this, I mean, beyond the climate crisis, which is obvious for everyone and when we are trying to deal with that with the Paris Agreement, is of course peace. And with peace comes the new peace agenda. The UN was set up for that that we would know no other war. What do we have today? We have frozen wars. We have terrorism. We have unconstitutional changes in government that people celebrate. We have a war in Europe that we never imagined could be possible. So obviously we've got to rethink the peace agenda and what we have to offer and our responses that worked in the past no longer respond in the same way. And so these are some of the things we want to pick up to say that the UN after 75 years has a youth office is a really big deal. Now we are really trying to say that network multilateralism needs to have young people at the center. Science needs to be in there. Business needs to come in the door. But for an institution like this that is this old and very much a bureaucracy, change takes time and the UN is looking at and I ask you to read up this up and give us your feedback what we call the quintet of change, UN 2.0 how we use that to change mindsets that will also use tools that will help us think into the future and provide the necessary substance behind the hope that we are always convening for in this multilateral world. Well, Deputy Secretary Amina Mohammed thank you so much for spending this time with us. You've honestly set out a lot of the big challenges but also I think left us with a message of hope too as we move into next year in the summer of the future. So we'll everyone thank Deputy Secretary Amina Mohammed. Thank you so much for having me and good luck and I look forward to hearing the outcomes. We need them for sure. The SDSN has done an amazing job in this ecosystem to support the work that we do both here in New York and Geneva but more especially I have to tell you at the country level. So thank you all so much for hanging in there. Let's try to keep the promise of 2030. Thank you.


Hello friends and welcome back to another episode of our VGC 2020 battle series My name is Lee also known as Osiris and in today's episode we are going to be featuring a team based all around a rangaroo Well, it's kind of around a rangaroo. We got the suggestion from Frankie J So thank you so much Frankie for I'll put the comment up here for the suggestion Now my instant reaction was to go down a trick room route with a rangaroo and then instruct and abuse that But we went for a completely different Direction here with the team. So as you can see the team on your screen right now is Kling Klang, Doug Trio Talonflame, a rangaroo, Virizion and Primarina like I said We're gonna have a little bit more fun with series 6 this week and it gives us a chance to use some of those Maybe not so used Pokemon and give them a little bit of time in the spotlight We'll go through all the details of the team in the episode today And I'll throw up a rental team as I always do at the end of the episode if you'd like to take this away and Try it out for yourselves. There is a poker piece down below in the description with all the details And if you want to just grab it and jump on showdown with it But I think it's gonna be a lot of fun and the team has some real capabilities. I think in this format So without further ado, let's hop into it And as always if you do enjoy this little content, please remember to drop a like on the video and if you're new To the channel do make sure you do subscribe We do also do a lot more serious VG VGC content as well as like the fun stuff. We're just coming to the end of a format and crown tundra is out next week so I mean Because of that, I feel like I want to just have a bit of fun with series 6 before we move into series 7 stuff and Yeah, we do also crown tundra as well loads of that content coming as well We've got so much planned for the channel. It's gonna be crazy busy the next month So yeah, if you do if you're thinking about subscribing hit that subscribe button and yeah Leave your comments down below if you've got suggestions as well for stuff that you'd like to see covered as always And all right, we've got our first opponent playing a team of drickers old all canine hydra again melodic Disclops and gigalith. Okay, so The trick room from my opponent is a little bit tricky and I'm not put intended but I think we could potentially go to a trio In cling-clang here rather than the orangaroo just for the fact that We can Get the speed kind of boost on a bunch of things before we attack and get a weakness policy proc The other option is obviously just going with the orangaroo and gone for the weakness policy proc on cling-clang and then Now with the bulldoze and then pass the the life up with the symbol as ability after we've procced our weakness policy on the cling-clang So there's a couple of options here cling-clang does well against the majority of stuff But I feel like the trio probably gives us more coverage against everything and allows us to trap stuff in so we don't need to Worry about them switching out. I think we'll go for marina and am I not bringing a orangaroo to this first one We're not it doesn't look like we are I'll bring verisian as well because verisian is another element of the team with the Doug trio so and if it doesn't work out with cling-clang With the bulldoze etc Then we've got the option to switch into Verisian go for the beat-up there and boost its justified ability and start knocking things out So we've got plenty of options to get into our first one today Okay, let us see. Okay, Draco's old Arcanine. Uh, that's not so bad. It's not the greatest either Um, obviously Arcanine putting on a lot of pressure onto the the cling-clang But I do feel and the Draco's old as well with the Max Quake and That is the big problem here. I think We could bulldoze It might be better to bring in something like A orangaroo in the back and then we kind of sack off Doug trio Because what we could The thing is we can't really hit the the draco's old for like amazing damage We can definitely get rid of the Arcanine and then maybe go after the Draco's old the next turn It's just whether or not cling-clang can take a Max Quake from the Draco's old which is Questionable. Okay, let's try it. Let's go max lightning We're gonna set it all up for the Draco's old and we'll go for the bulldoze The Arcanine can't switch out Obviously with a clear body. We can't be intimidated either. So that's quite nice And we'll see about getting this Arcanine. We should be able to get it plus two It doesn't look like oh, well, maybe the Draco's old is maxing. You would have thought it would have maxed Prior prior to us it would it should be the faster thing, but it may not be and it definitely won't be after the bulldoze Just straight gone for a bald beak perfect. Don't mind that at all Now we get the bulldoze and we may be able to get the Draco's old the next turn, you know with a high combination of high horsepower and The max steel spike maybe oh, maybe just the wild charge the max lightning. We'll see Okay, so we do get the weakness policy boost We do get the Arcanine. So that is a good start for us. That is an excellent start for us And now whether or not they bring in maybe something like dust globs here I don't know because the duck trail kind of makes things very awkward for my opponent I think they've got a max the the Draco's old the next turn now If they do have max like the the high horsepower on it, which you would assume they do okay We're gonna see hydra again. Okay, um So I think we'll just steal spike the high dragon And we'll go for a high horsepower into the Draco's old You do have the sash on the the The dog trio, so I mean we're not in the worst place at all. We are gonna see it's gonna be a high dragon maxing It's probably gonna earth power and Clean clang But the the main thing is that we get rid of the Draco's old Because once the Draco's old's gone down like primarina has a super easy time when it comes on to the field I host power. This should be enough It is because Doug trios just legit I Love Doug trio. It's such a cool Pokemon. It's one of those Pokemon I'd like really never really use can we take this? I don't know if we can No way, okay, so clean clang not being as effective as we want it to be Unfortunately now obviously with Pokemon with the levitate and ability we can't and we can't get the jump on them which is a little bit unfortunate but It's still all right because now I think we've got the perfect opportunity to bring in Verizion and go for that beat up and close combat into high dragon and get rid of it depends what the era the Pokemon is Okay, it's melodic. I mean that's that's like that's perfect That's the most perfect Pokemon that we could have seen come out here because Verizion is just gonna clean up So this should be a pretty clean sweep and we'll go for the beat up into Verizion We're no gonna out speed the hydra again It's not like it's airstream. They'll got any speed boosts with it So we're sitting in a pretty nice spot and we'll go for that beat up and It's three beat ups gonna be enough plus three should be right Hopefully is gonna be like for the problem with Verizion compared to Terakian and cobalion Is it's just not not that strong? You kind of need the life. Oh, but I had to put the life orb on the orangre in this team But it's enough. Okay, so we take that back for is Ian. We take that back Okay, we're fine and then the melodic. I don't know what you're gonna do probably icy wind here. Maybe maybe We should still out speed it with Doug tree.  Like I say we're gonna out speed it We're base 120 with with Doug trio. Oh and Verizion still had speeds it as well. So that's super fine That was that was perfect. That was perfect other than cling clang I would have liked to have done a little bit more But it wasn't the best matchup for cling clang really when we look at the team preview at the start It definitely wasn't the best matchup But when I'm featuring these Pokemon in these teams, it's hard sometimes to be like, okay The team's kind of generally centered around a certain couple of Pokemon and when I can't bring some of those Pokemon It makes it difficult to kind of do these feature episodes and Obviously love to do more episodes with them But I think how how we like to go through teams and feature different teams on the channel It works better like this and hopefully you guys enjoy that sort of sort of thing as well So and good game to my opponent there Hopefully it doesn't take too long to find our next one and in the next one I'm really hoping that we get the opportunity to use the orangaroo because Basically, we've got symbolists on it. So what happens is we'll bulldoze We'll proc the weakness policy on the cling clang and then because we've used the weakness policies symbolists activate And we give a cling clang the life orb as well So we get the life orb with the weakness policy so on and so on would have been nice to put I did think about maybe putting the assault vest on orangaroo But it then it kind of tied a rangaroo down if we were bringing it and we weren't bringing the cling clang as an option So that was the reason why I didn't okay got our next opponent Tough tough tough tough tough for one reason we'll get into that in a minute But we got Lapras, Arcanine, Talonflame and Mungus Urshifu and the Gothatel so the Urshifu is the one thing that's causing me a few issues right now Especially if it is the dark type which you would imagine it is in this build with the the Lapras there as the kind of the main water type user Yeah, it's tricky because they can knock out orangaroo before we can actually do anything The only other option we've got is going Doug Trio again And going for cling clang The problem there would be the Talonflame from my opponent coming in with the With their tailwind so I'm going to bring Talon and I'm going to bring Marina and in the back We're going to go orangaroo and cling clang and that's going to be our back mod So hopefully we can get it working in this game But we'll see we'll soon find out It's got to tell gonna lead because that's the other option my opponent's got Gothatel And maybe something where they don't bring the Lapras, but I would imagine we'll see the Lapras come out With the Talonflame, I think that'll be the lead and then Urshifu in the back Ah, I am wrong. I am so wrong. I'm so wrong. Okay. Well We'll take that because we can match tailwinds and we can go after the Urshifu once the Urshifu's down That everything becomes so much easier for us So we will tailwind and we'll go the only worry here is if they poison Jabba's And they're banded So the other option here is we Now we have to tailwind I think before everything Yeah, I just worry about the poison jab that would be a little bit of a worry for us We could max and go but I kind of want to max cling clang I'm just gonna go moon blast into the Urshifu. So we'll tailwind. Are they tailwinding? They should do Yeah, they're tailwinding. Okay Let's say they're not then that makes it so much easier for us. Are you tense? Okay, but we'll take that all day long What's coming in though? Arcanine? Arcanine potentially Hmm, or maybe Lapras Could be the Lapras could be that's the Moongus. Okay. Well, we don't mind that too much. I mean, it's not the best But again, like I really I don't mind it at all to be honest We've got the safety goggles on our Talonflame so we can just taunt it and we can go for a Hyper voice because it's gonna start to try and spoil spoil our Pokemon But there's no way out speeds our Talonflame so And with the Assault Vest and Primarina would kind of all right Taking an attack if they do decide to go that route because they may suspect. Oh, they just go for the protect. Okay, that's fine They're gonna use this time to try and get damage onto Primarina. That's the thing like this is where we should have been maybe a little bit Yeah, because now we're totally in Urshifu Territory here and then the next turn they bring in Urshifu as We'll take down the Talonflame here So I Mean we still got the brave bird Although it's it's a little tougher. I mean, I think what we'll do is taunt the Amungus moon blast Hmm, what do we because Urshifu definitely comes back in that's Lapras, huh? Okay, well we need to keep one of these two around because otherwise when we're completely screwed And What can come in? Okay, I think what we're gonna do is We're gonna taunt the Amungus We're gonna switch Primarina out to Oranguru and then we're gonna get Hopefully knocked out. Hopefully our Talonflame goes down to the Lapras attack That's what we're hoping for and then we can get cling clang in and then we can go bulldoze Get a weakness or maybe bulldoze Shift gear and then that gives us a jump on the Urshifu and then we can max But I don't know if we're gonna have room to do that with the Lapras on the field at the same time, you know It's gonna be difficult because the Lapras depending if it's life or what's gonna be chucking out massive damage So we get the taunt into the Amungus So that's step one of the whole plan where a few steps ahead of what turn wrong But I think we've got to kind of start doing that. Okay. There's a resonance into Oranguru Well, we take that so that's that's good now really ideally here what we want to see is Tough though because It is life orb as well energy ball okay into Talon breaking our girl wings. It's fine Mmm, I don't really want to lose Oranguru here And I don't want to switch I think you've got do you go after Oranguru maybe now It's just if we switch clink like the problem is switching clink clang in right now. We could take a hydro vortex It's so risky But I feel like it's our only opportunity because I feel like Amungus could switch out right now for the Urshifu And I feel like we need to go for this play right now to get that this win So if it all pays off, I think you win this match But if it doesn't we take a hydro vortex for our troubles then we are in troubles big troubles There's a bulldoze. Okay Not Urshifu switch, which is interesting. Please go after the Oranguru thinking we're gonna set trick room. That's my only hope here That's my only hope We get the life orb, which is ideal. So we actually get and it's a geyser. It's gonna be into the cling clang We're gonna lose it No, it isn't to the Oranguru Come on All right. All right was like I'll take that all day long. That's perfect. Okay And the cling clang is set up now now the tailwind of my opponent's end does end. Okay an Energy ball super fine super fine with that Our tailwinds all pitter out So let's bring in primarina Do we bring in prim? Or do we bring in talent flame what's better? Prim I think we're bringing prim now, so I'm not too worried about the speed. I need to I need to get the I Just hope that cling clang max can take a geyser from Let's go for this and let's go for The energy ball. Yeah, let's do that do that now. All we need is cling clang to survive this turn So we just got to take a hydra vortex from a life of Lapras in the rain Come on cling clang prove me wrong prove me wrong this one time prove that you are the steel type that we all want you to be That's what we need right now It's gonna be very close, you know, I think we should take it, but we're gonna be probably possibly in There's some nice damage. It's not quite enough though. I'm gonna have a life or recoil to contend with as well Okay Come on energy ball That's so close We'll lose primarina here Come on cling clang take this like a champ Nine HP, but we'll go down to the recoil the next turn, which is like super sad just super sad Because we can get talent flaming now problem is I don't think the Amungus has definitely got the Cobra Berry 100% and the life orbs gonna kind of Be so counterproductive for us now. I mean we can max guard Yeah, let's make it's risky max guarding because if we max guard We give the Lapras the opportunity to take us down Because I kind of need to talk the Amungus. That's what we need to do and So they can't redirect the next turn Unless they don't have Cobra Berry, of course, which I'm presuming they do but let's let's say they don't okay Let's steal spike so we get at least talent the defense boost for when that urge of food comes in Let's try brave birding the Amungus Yeah, there's a rage powder. We just got to hope it's not Cobra Berry because if it is Cobra Berry then we're screwed No Cobra. Come on. Let's take it down. Let's get rid of this Amungus. Yes. Come on. We can do this Come on. We can do this. Okay, we get the crit. I don't know if I'm mad. I'm gonna say it didn't I'm gonna say it didn't 100% We take a bunch of damage Which is not really great. We do get the steal spike So the defense boost is gonna be the best.  We need a crit. We need a crit.  Yeah, okay. We could have tail winded but That's 50 50 there. Okay. Well, I mean very good game to my opponent Just sad that the cling-clang couldn't actually get going in this one Um, I think it has got potential the two mods took trios a little bit faster But there's definitely a couple of mods there with the cling-clang Um, and it did do some work. I guess it didn't like it did get knockouts. So it wasn't a complete flop um The thing is with the uh oranguru might be better like actually thinking about now and how we played the oranguru in those matches It might be better to just go for attacking options on oranguru and give it the assault vest um Because then We'll be able to at least give cling-clang a little bit extra health or maybe a berry as well I just feel like the the life orb gives you just ridiculous power Um, okay. We need to get rid of one of our teams. I think probably it's gonna be has to be Um, oh that's new that's new Is that new? No, that's not so new but that is kind of new the double dragon I think it's going to have to be this nolax on all Toxicity, okay, like I always say If there are teams you've got up or had up that I need to take down to make room for new teams And you'd still like to play them. Let me know and I will put them up on my new cart on my other cart um don't Make public It's always bad when you don't win and you like have those like hype moments in the match Where you feel like I've made a tiny bit of I've made a tiny bit of headway getting far too excited of a confident But um, at least we did get to see some elements of the team. Uh, we got to see the verisium with the dug tree We got to see the orangaroo, uh, the talon flam. We featured everything today. So it's really nice There is a rental called my friends if you try it out remember It is a little bit of fun There are elements in the team that I think are extremely good and extremely strong that you can use another team So it might inspire some ideas for you guys Um, but if nothing else you'll have a lot of fun if you do try this team on the ladder Um, so we'll wrap it up there. Thank you so much as always for tuning in and we'll be back with another episode very soon So until then my friends take care of yourselves behind each other Be kind to yourselves and I'll see you all in the next one. So until then take care. Bye. Bye


Hello and welcome to NewsClick. Today we have with us Professor Ajaz Ahmad and we are going to discuss the passing of a great Marxist and thinker, Samir Amin. Ajaz, you knew Samir well and we have met him on a number of occasions. You must have also had a much longer association with him. What do you think were Samir's major contributions that he made in his life? Yes, I met Samir over a period of 30 years or so occasionally here and there. I came to know him quite well. I think that before you get to his main contributions, it's very interesting to actually look at his origins so to speak. He went to college that year and became independent. 47? Yes.  He had joined the Communist Party of Egypt and that year he went to France and then immediately joined the PCF. There is that and I'll come to that but even before that the family is very interesting. He comes from a Coptic upper middle class background from the side of the father. But from the side of the mother, his mother was French and she was very proud of the fact that her ancestors among the ancestors were Jacobins. Okay. According to somebody who was a member of the barbie of conspiracy. So communism in the family was 200 years old. Literally, I mean technically. They had ancestors in the commune. This is the sort of world he grew up in. revolutionary thought communism was sort of inherited idea for him. And those were the sort of centers of the Egyptian Communist Party grew up in that. Then going back to, you know, he goes to France, becomes part of the PCF. He is in college when the Chinese Revolution takes place. He is still finishing his university when the revolutionary struggles in Vietnam and Algeria take place and he's in Paris. Okay. And there are people from both countries and he is very much involved in all of that. And then the year before he finishes his PhD, he's still in Paris and comes the Khrushchev speech of disorganization. His world sort of falls apart because he had been a communist in the period when he started with the life, etc. And then comes the sinus of his spirit. So Maoism for him was actually aware out of this almost traumatic experience of having the Khrushchev speech and having to live with all of that. So it's a very interesting relationship with the whole of the third world, which he then continues to have all the rest of his life. And that's one thing. The other is therefore one has to really think of his contribution in the context in which he developed. The book that he eventually published in 1970, Accumulation on the World Scale, which was the breakthrough that's translated into English 1974, is actually a written up version for a book of his dissertation, which he had written in 1957. So this whole idea that capitalism is not a universal system, but a bipolar system in which there is never going to be a smooth worldwide expansion of capitalism. You will always have a capitalism in which so long as capitalism exists, in which as he wrote in that dissertation, the countries of the periphery will always have to submit themselves to a structural adjustment in accordance with the needs of the center. The term structural adjustment is actually there. So you do think IMF studied this documentally? So this is all before the publication of Monopoly Capital by Baran in Switzerland. It is all before world system theory. It is all before dependency theory and all of that. So basically he actually addressed imperialism and colonialism at the core of that. Right, from the start. And that was there because as a student, when he arrived in Paris, he fell straight into anti-colonial communist students from Africa, Vietnam, the Caribbean, you know, Singapore, Césaire, all of these people were part of the group he was in. And across the channel were people like, like Babu and so on from the British colonies. So he was a communist who was completely attuned to anti-imperialist movements from the beginning. The very interesting point that you're developing, would we say that those who went from the colonies to metropolitan centers, in some sense inherited the mantle of both that you had Marxism as developed in quote-unquote the metropolises, but also you had the legacy of the anti-colonial struggles and therefore a much more radical view of colonialism and imperialism? That is much more true of France than of Britain. Britain didn't have that much of a, you know, serious, they didn't have a serious communist party, they didn't have serious Marxist tradition, France did. And France was a country that was actually fighting wars. Colonial wars and that point of time. When these people were young, when they were students in Paris, Vietnam and Algeria, the wars were there. So as he goes to study economic history, the history that he wants to study is not the history that Marx narrates in the capital history of Europe, but to read the history of the colonies through Marx. That is the breakthrough. So Marxist lens see how capital behaves in the colonies. Marxist understanding of capitalism extended to a world scale. And to read the world, actually the capitalist mode of production, not pre-capitalism, which Marx had also studied. So choice of that object was completely new as a theoretical object. And the view of it as not, you know, this will gradually grow everywhere and every country will slowly and gradually become like Europe. But that because it took the colonial form, the imperialist form, it had to, the inherent to it was a bipolar nature of center and periphery and so on. And that remains his concern, the main concern theoretically speaking. His first he talks about this structural adjustment that the colonies always have to make. Then later on he starts talking about this bipolarity and so on. The concept of unequal exchange based on the idea that the wage, that the price that is given or the wage that is given to a worker in the peripheries with the same amount and same quality of labor is always much less than at the center. So the mode of exploitation and unequal exchange based on that. Later on the concept of the imperial rent, the concept of the law of value and the global scale and all that. It's actually just refinement of that particular argument. And in that he was well before whether the monthly review, school or dependency or world system. People like Emmanuel Ari Giri and all who came later. He was part of the Maoist world of Europe. He was in the leading Maoist group. So he came into world system much later than Wollich and so on. But Samir used to know very well from that the Maoist connection. And it's part of that enduring Maoism that for him imperialism is primary. Samir also apart from being a theoretician, par excellence who also dealt with political economy not economics, was also in his heart also an activist. And how do you see that as not only in his heart, not only in his heart. That's what he did. That's what he did. You know, and after the first couple of books, which were very rigorous and he writes about it. He has actually written two autobiographies, one intellectual autobiography and one more personal autobiography. After that, his books are not the sort of books that come out of western academia, you know, with thousands of footnotes and this, that and the other. And they're very repetitive and he's very aware that they're repetitive. So his writing itself, he thinks of his writings as part of his activism. And he said, there are certain basics that need to be repeated every day. He built a number of institutions. This morning I was thinking about him again. I remember Stuart Hall, Jamaican British Marxist intellectual, saying we were the organic intellectuals of the party that never came about. And I was thinking that, you know, that is part of what Samir's life was that what do you as an intellectual, as an activist intellectual. So that he was always on the move. He was going from he built in him any number of institutions which are very effective. He was he participated in any number of extremely important political movements, particularly in Africa, all over Africa. He spent most of his time getting involved in doing, you know, doing things which he connected with some kind of organization. I see him as part of what something I've been saying that with the defeat of the Soviet Union, with the dispersal fragmentation of the Soviet Union, you collapsed in the communist state system. We have entered into a period in which immense numbers of people are looking for a new revolutionary form. And all over the world, there are immense number of struggles, immense number of struggles, millions upon millions of people on the move, except that you don't have a secondary revolutionary form. So they all take an experimental form of struggle, various kinds of experiments are being done. And out of this will emerge some new revolutionary form. This is sort of a period of interval. And I think of Sameer as someone who is a very great intellectual in that process of experimenting with various kinds of activities at various levels, over all three continents of ours. So he's a very special person in that respect. And also a very warm human being. Extremely warm human being, extremely warm human being. And a very peculiar combination of at a certain level, he had a great confidence in what he had arrived at and how that should be worked and how people should be organized around that in a project. That confidence, which you may call arrogance or pride or whatever, went into an enormously humble sort of personality, extremely open to disagreements and all that. We loved contentions. Thank you Ajals, being with us, remembering a very good friend and a great mind. This is all the time we have for Newsclick today. Do keep watching Newsclick and visit our website.


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Professional thieving is a business, and some forms of it, just as some forms of legitimate business, are conducted on a nationwide scale, with accomplices in major cities throughout the country acting as sales outlets for the stolen goods. But your FBI, one of whose jobs it is to smash these rings, also operates on a nationwide scale. And no matter how cunning the methods of the one, there are no match for the unrelenting vigilance of the other. And it is inevitable, as illustrated in tonight's case from the files of your FBI, it is inevitable that sometime, at some point, the twain shall meet. The greenhouse floral business operated by Meryl Sheridan and his widowed aunt in the suburbs of a large Midwestern city, had, until a few months ago, produced only a modest income. Then it began to prosper smartly. But at the moment, this sudden financial success means nothing to Meryl Sheridan. He stands for Lawnley and his greenhouse, contemplating a flower. Meryl? Yes, Aunt Cathy. I thought you were coming into the house for lunch. I was. Is something wrong? Yes, it's this virus. Oh, what about it? I'm convinced it deliberately committed suicide. But I thought it was doing so well. It was. Well, perhaps you can revive it.  Oh, look, look, isn't that... isn't that Mr. Durham outside? Oh, yes, I'm sorry to say. Why, Meryl, he's our most profitable customer. I appreciate him, darling, but I don't trust him. Well, good morning. Good morning, Mr. Durham. I would have gotten here sooner, but traffic in the city was extraordinarily heavy. Mr. Durham. Yes? You obviously received my telegram. Oh, yes, you said you had a rare variety of tulip bulb that I might be interested in. Correct? Yes. I'll watch the office, Meryl. Very well, Aunt Cathy. May I see the rare specimen? Here we are. Well, let me look at it. Don't be impatient. I'll handle it.  Very well. That's it. Now I shall pull its false bottom out by the roots. Thustly and... Good Lord, Sharon. Does it please you? Why, it's one of the most beautiful emeralds I've seen. It's the late property of some plushy dowager, I'd say. Why, it's... it's at least 20 carats. And Cathy and I will settle for 25,000. Well, I'll... I'll do the best I can. You'll probably sell it for twice that, but remember, you will still get only your usual one-third share. Now look here, Sheridan. I've told you before. You're entitled to a larger share. I know. This is a precarious enterprise for all of us. But I've spent nearly 20 years building my business. And if I'm caught in just one of these transactions, what happens to the house of Durham and where am I? Aunt Cathy and I will see to it that you have fresh flowers in your cell every day. Now see here. Just dash on back to the house of Durham, oh dear, and do the best you can. For one-third. The same morning in that city's field office of the FBI, Agent and charge Craig was sitting at his desk when Special Agent Highland entered from the teletype room. Good morning, Mr. Craig. Hello, Highland. What have you got there? Special bulletin to all field offices from Washington. Oh, what's up? A series of jewel robberies. Three cities along the eastern seaboard, one right after the other. Sounds like the work of one gang. Yes, here's the bulletin. None of the stuff is turning up in the city's work with Stolen, so the police figure the gang is fencing it out around the country. I don't see any description of the stuff here. There's a follow-up teletype coming in. Quite a long list. I see. I don't imagine any of the stones are in their original mounting now, though. No, jewel gangs are usually smart enough to unmount the stones before trying to dispose of them. They're harder to identify that way. And reduces the chances of finding them to about one in a million, too. Don't be so pessimistic. You said there's quite a long list of them, right? Yeah, but I also... All the FBI has to do is find just one piece of the jewelry or just one of the stones. But the tough part is finding that one stone. I know, and maybe none of this stuff will ever turn up in our particular bailiwick, but we've got to go on the assumption that it will, so let's get busy. What first? For start, let's alert the police, all pawn shops, and all insurance companies which insure jewelry. Right. Hello? Hello, Durham. I've just deposited my personal check for $20,000 to your bank account. For what? I sold the stone for $30,000 and kept my one-third $10,000. Isn't that good news? No. Why not?  Didn't you? Yes, ma'am. Then deposit $4,000 of it to my account at once. Now look, the tax money belongs to the government. You're not paying taxes on stolen gems and you know it.  What kind of flowers do you want? Never mind threatening me. Listen, Durham. All right. Keep your bonus. That's just what... What? I've just decided that from now on we're going to do business on a different basis. What do you mean? I'll fix the amount that Aunt Kathy and I are to have, and you pay it to us in cash on the spot. Then whatever you sell the article for later is your business. How's that? But what if I don't agree with your price? You can take it or leave it. Very well. Good. And we'll start tomorrow. Tomorrow? I'll have an article by then. It will be worth $10,000 to Aunt Kathy and me. So bring that much cash with you. But you will not be obligated to buy. Just be prepared to. And make it about one o'clock. I'll be there. You're sent for me, Mr. Craig? Yes, Island. You were kind of pessimistic yesterday, weren't you, about our chances of ever finding any of those stolen jewels? Well, yes. I've just had an interesting telephone call. You don't mean one of them has turned up already? One of the stolen jewels described on that list was a 20-carat emerald, wasn't it? Yes. An insurance company that we alerted yesterday just phoned to report that they'd been asked to insure a 20-carat emerald. What? It was brought to them by Mrs. V.A. Madison. Her husband is the head of the power and light company. I know, but you don't think that either he or his wife are buying a stolen emerald? No, they wouldn't have to know it had been stolen. He purchased the emerald yesterday. Where? Why don't you go ask him? I'm on my way now. Oh, good afternoon, Mr. Durham. What can I do for you? I have an appointment with your nephew. Oh, yes. He's back in the green hour. Shall I go get him? No, no, I'll find him. Sheridan? Sheridan! Don't shout, Mr. Durham. Sheridan, you said you'd have an article for me to look at. That's right. I did. Well? I also told you it would cost you $10,000 in cash. Provided I want to buy it. Are you prepared to? Certainly. I don't see anything green. It isn't a plant, old boy. All right, here's the money. Look at it. How much is there? $10,000. I can't afford to trust you anymore. It's much too expensive. Well, here. Count it yourself. I'd be delighted. All hundreds. Each of those packages contains $1,000. Fine. Then I'll take four of them. Huh? Here. You may have the rest back. What are you doing? Just evening the score. That's all. What? My dear fellow, you held out $4,000 on me yesterday, didn't you? Oh, I get it. This was all just a trick. A rather clever one, don't you think? Give me back that money. Not a chance, old ear. Now I must look after the petunia. Why, you...   I'll tell the police that you commissioned me to sell a 20-carat emerald for you yesterday. Really?  That would be very unwise. Look, I want to get out of this business anyway. You keep the $4,000. I'm going to the police. Just a minute, Mr. Durham. What? You're not going to make trouble for us. Get out of my way. Sorry. Thank you, Aunt Cathy. You're so considerate. 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And now, back to the FBI file, Flowers for the Corpse. Professional jewel thieves and their accomplices so often glamorized by authors of mystery adventure fiction and endowed with almost supernatural talents are neither glamorous nor supernatural to your FBI nor to law enforcement agencies cooperating in their capture. To them, they're just another lot of criminals, just another patch of scum, fouling the waters of decent society, and just as vulnerable as any other kind of criminal. At about the time the jeweler Durham was making his fatal visit to the Sheridan Greenhouse, Special Agent Highland of the FBI as concluding his visit to VA Madison, purchaser of the stolen emerald. A little later, accompanied by agent and charge Craig, he visited Durham's office. I'm sorry, but Mr. Durham isn't in. Are you his secretary? Yes. Well then, perhaps you can help us. We're special agents of the FBI. The FBI? That's right. But what? It's about a stone which Mr. VA Madison purchased here a couple of days ago, a 20-carat emerald. What about it? Mr. Durham told Mr. Madison he had obtained the stone through the liquidation of an estate that same day. Yes, that's true. We've just checked and there is no record of any such estate liquidation. What? But the emerald exactly fits the description of one stolen in an eastern city recently. Good heavens. Well, there must be some mistake. I'm afraid the mistake is Mr. Durham's in knowingly receiving and disposing of stolen goods. Now, where did he really get the emerald? I don't know. Has he gotten other stones the same way? Well, yes. I mean, that is, I... You're convinced Mr. Durham is dealing with agents of a ring of jewel thieves, Miss? Well, if he is, I don't know it. They don't come here. Ray, yeah. I found this on Durham's desk. What? Flowers are my hobby, you know, and this is a Dutch variety of tulip bulb. No, what about it? Well, it's not only an odd place for a tulip bulb to be, but this is a very odd bulb. What do you mean? Take hold of the roots at the bottom and pull. That's it. Well, what? Well, the bottom comes out. Yeah, and the bulb is hollow inside. Oh, for the love of Pete. What do you know about this, Miss? I didn't know that about it. What do you mean? Well, I mean, Mr. Durham buys a lot of tulip bulbs. From whom? A greenhouse out in Millville. Yes? Every time they have some of a certain special variety, they let Mr. Durham know. I'll say it's a special variety. Sounds like the florist could be the fence. Sure, and hides the stuff and hollow tulip bulbs. What's the name of that greenhouse, Miss? It's Sheridan's. Highland, I'll stick here and wait for Durham. Right, and since you speak the flower language, I'll get out there and start speaking it right now. And Kathy? Yes? I think we should be getting out of here. Merle, running away is just the thing not to do. Darling, after all, you have committed a murder, and I believe there's a law against that sort of thing. But closing up the greenhouse and running away would immediately pin suspicion on us. Then what is your idea, my sweet? To dispose of Durham's body and his car. How, when, and where? We'll drive up to the cabin tonight, lock the body in the car and roll it into the lake.  I would never have... Wait. Oh, what's the matter? Someone just drove up. What of it? Probably a customer. There's no regular customer. I've never seen him before. Well, we can't turn him down because of that. But suppose I have to take him back in the greenhouse? He won't know if there's a body hidden under the benches, unless you tell him. Oh. How do you do? Hello. What can we do for you? I'd like to get a few tulip bulbs, please. Some what? Tulip bulbs, Merle.   That's all right. I'll come with you, if I may. Well... Take the gentleman back, Merle. I'll watch the office. Come this way, please. Surely. After you. Thank you. Any particular variety you're interested in? Pride of Harlem is my favorite, Dutch bulb. Oh? Oh, yes. The reason I came here, a friend of mine who trades with you recommended your place to me. Who's that? Pardon? Your friend, I mean. The jeweler, J.P. Durham. Just a minute. Yes? Who are you and what do you want here? Well, I don't understand. You're lying to me. You're no friend of Durham's and you didn't come here to buy tulip bulbs. You're making my work awfully easy for me, Mr. Sheridan. What? So I may as well admit now that I'm not a friend of Durham's. I'm a special agent of the FBI. FBI? And I'm not concerned with the bulbs themselves, but the jewels that you conceal inside some of them. Look here. Furthermore, I'd like an explanation for what looks like blood on the floor over there. Also the car outside with a monogram J.P.D. on the door. You'd better put your hands up, Mr. FBI. Thanks again, Aunt Kathy. Merle, I think we'll have two passengers in that car up at the lake tonight. What time is it, Brian? Uh, 5.35, boy. Highland should have reported back here by now. Maybe he had trouble finding the place. Shouldn't have had too much trouble. He knew the name of the town and the name of the greenhouse owner. Well, maybe he wasn't in and Highland is waiting for him. Wouldn't be any sense in calling us unless he had some information. No, perhaps you're right. But... On what? I don't like the whole setup. What do you mean? Well, in addition to not hearing from Highland, we can't find Durham. I'm not exactly crazy about that part of it, myself. He's mixed up in this, and if he's running out, I don't want to give him too much of a lead. If he's running out, and the man who owns the greenhouse isn't in, maybe they're both taking the trip together. Well, one thing is sure. What's that? We're not doing anybody any good sitting around here. Let's get out to that greenhouse. Merle, did you get Durham's body in the car? Yes, I didn't realize my own strength. Is there anything else we have to do? Not that I can think of. Well, then I think we'd better be going. It's a long drive to the cabin, and the FBI is no one-man organization, you know. What do you mean? They'll be sending some other men along to look for this one when he doesn't show up. You're right. I'll be ready to go in a minute. What are you doing there, Mr. FBI? Uh, nothing. Just rearranging some of the flowers. What are you doing that for? Well, I'm rather fond of flowers myself, and the colors you had in this centerpiece bothered me. We're not interested in what bothers you. I always heard that they allowed the condemned man to do what he liked during the last hours. Stop fixing those flowers. Merle. What? Did you check the gas and oil in Durham's car? It won't be a very good idea to be stopping anywhere with our passengers. Everything is taken care of. Let's go. Hmm. Well, you sure seem deserted, Craig. Yeah. Got your flash? Right here. Let's see if we can get in the greenhouse and have a look around. Try this door here. It doesn't bother to lock up, anyway. No. Throw your light around. Come on. Let's take a walk down this aisle and see what we see. Craig. Yeah? Look. Yeah. Looks like blood. I hope it's not Hyland's blood. Wait a minute. Shine your light over there. What is it? Hyland's identification card. What?  Say, those flowers seem to be arranged in a special way. Yes, and I've got a hunch it's supposed to mean something. Do you think Hyland managed to leave us some kind of clue? Yes. He knew his flowers and flowers have special meanings. What kind of these? I think one of them's a verbena. Yeah. Yeah, my wife planted something to make a border. Let's get on a phone and call the Daily Journal's library and find out what a verbena means. Right. If that doesn't tell us enough, we'll find out what these others mean and get the whole story. This is getting to be a bore. Now, Merle, just relax. After all, we can't roll a car and two bodies into the lake as long as that moon-struck couple is parked down there. Well, you'd think they would have had enough smooching in two hours. Wait a minute, I believe that... Yes, they are. They're driving off now. Thank heavens. Well, Mr. FBI... I think I know what you mean. You will please walk out of the cabin to the car and get in beside the lake, Dr. Durham. Well, I guess the message I left for my associates to find has failed me. What do you mean? What message? The flowers you made me drop. My identification card, you didn't see me drop. What? Surely you know the language of flowers. The verbina meant pray for me. That was to let them know I was in your power. And the milk word means hermitage, which they could easily translate into this isolated cabin of yours. Very clever. But I'm afraid they wouldn't know where this cabin is. Your friends and neighbors do, and they'd gladly cooperate with the FBI. Then, Aunt Kathy, I'd say let's get this over with and move away from here. Yes. Get up from there and start for the door. Okay. Got that gun? Craig, am I glad to see you. We finally figured out your message, Highland, but we were afraid we'd be too late. It is too late for Durham. And it could have been for me, unless... Well, do you know what smooching is? Why? I'm very thankful for it. Tried on the more serious charge of murder, Merle Sheridan's aunt was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment. Her nephew received a long term in a federal penitentiary for receiving and disposing of stolen goods. And the arrest of these two led eventually to the apprehension of the gang of jewel thieves, all of whom are now serving prison terms. Yes, professional thievery is a business, operating sometimes on a nationwide scale. But likewise, the law operates on a nationwide scale. 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