What's up everybody, welcome to HotMakes right here on HotMakes. I think we're on the EdgyTech channel tonight too, yes we are. I am NerdyJ, also known as Jim from the EdgyTech. This, my friends, is Caleb. How you doing Caleb? Actually, I had myself muted that whole time and I was just repeating. I was like echoing exactly what you were saying, impersonating you.  It was one of those old Chinese movies for a minute there. You were just like. Guozira. So, audio issues this week because I have this weird little board thing and I think it might not be fantastic. So apologies for audio being all over the place, especially that one guy who made that crappy comment. Anyway, I'm doing all right. I'm in a different setting this week. I decided to come back from my work office where I have been doing the show to do it here at the shop. For the, it's a really cool shop that the people we're staying with have that I've been making things in to try to keep my brain off of the housing situation every now and then. But because of that, I have different audio stuff here. So things are nice, different audio and video stuff. It's a, it's not that, I mean, it's not that bad. We're going to rock and roll with it and we're going to have a lot of fun. I am super pumped about today's, I'm just looking at the agenda. I'm super pumped about today's show. Yeah, me too. Jimmy from the DIY and digital railroad with us. I am so crazy excited, a big fan of Jimmy's and like, it all started when I wanted to buy, well, I went back and I got a train set from when I was a kid, like last year at my dad's house, actually a little over a year ago in July. And I found my original train set, my grandpa bought me. And then it was like, hmm, this thing's been sitting for a whole lot of years. And then I was like, what else can, and I went crazy with trains for a while. And I know Andrew, I don't know if Andrew's with us right now, but he actually sent me some stuff too. And I got, I bought a train table and a bunch of stuff. But one of the big channels I watched was, you know, was, was the DIY and digital and I'm super pumped because I want to pick his brain. He 3D prints, I believe he's using a laser now, which is crazy cool. And all of that stuff, like mesh is really cool with, with model railroad stuff too. So I'm pumped about that. If you want to check out any of the hot makes we show today, check out the link in the description below. That's updated with episode 157, 157, dude, that's so much, man, I love it. Let's see what else we got here. If you want to donate, feel free to do a super sticker or whatever you want in the chat or shoot it over to PayPal and I will call it out. So we can do it in that so we know that it's attributed to the show. Yeah, there's a link. The nightbot should be posting that in the chat on the hot makes channel itself. But right, we should check. You know, I haven't checked nightbot in a minute and made sure that all of my stuff is turned off on my channel. I'll double check that in a second. Also, we're not doing too bad for subscribers on this particular channel. So no, yeah, if you're new here, hit that subscribe button. We really appreciate it. Or if you're on the edge of tech channel, go over to the hot makes channel. Nightbot should be posting that link too. Yeah, I don't think I'll see it. Let me just double check. Oh, yeah, I have it enabled. We're good. OK, all right. Cool. Perfect. I just wanted to check that. So, yeah, we are pumped. We are going to take. We are going to take questions the whole episode. If you want to shoot some questions, we're going to do that. Stephen Lightspeed says he's never seen Gary and Caleb in the same place. Just notice that you never seen Gary, Caleb and Batman in the same place either. So this is true. This is true. How much does PayPal charge less than you do? I don't know. Not sure. Not sure, David. I've got to get back to you, David. I saw your response. I got super busy at work today. I will respond to you with email that you sent me earlier today, by the way. Also, CSX and Norfolk, Norfolk Southern Pittsburgh Division. I believe they said they're in a real. I would have never guessed you're in the railroads. Just going to throw it out there by the name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a trained dude. Did you like the preview the way I edited the preview today? Where at the end, you just say, it's drawings. You didn't watch it. Did you? I did. I watched it and it was like right right at the end when it was fading out. Yeah. So I'm excited to talk to Jimmy, because what I love about this show is sometimes I pull sometimes we work on guests together. And sometimes I pull in people that you've never met. And sometimes you pull in people that I've never met. And this is a situation where you said, we're going to have DIY and digital Jimmy on the show. And I'm like, cool. I don't know who that is. And I actually didn't even know that he was a trained guy until like last night when I was when I was reading the the form that he filled out for the show. And I did that on purpose for the record, Jimmy. When I don't know Jimmy's in the background, we should just bring him on. Yeah. When I don't know somebody that Jim's pulling on, I usually just avoid looking them up as as much as I have to or until the last minute, you know, when I'm putting the show together so that I'm not seeing too much of what they do. And I can kind of be a little bit of an audience surrogate. But I'm excited because I mean, so sorry, we got to be we got to be fair. It's the DIY and digital railroad railroad. I mean, you got you can't forget that part at the end. It's not just the well, no, I tell you what, why don't we bring them in and actually talk to them? How about that? Ladies, gentlemen, Jimmy, how are you doing? We get, oh, my God, dude, stop clicking the button. We're both clicking. Clicking. Yeah. We were clicking the button at the same time. What's up, Jimmy?  The first thing you should know, the very first thing is, you know, is that you if I stay up, yeah, is you have to give me a thousand dollars scale that that's just a rule that is a model railroading thing. Everyone will tell you that. I have 20. That works. They started. Yeah, yeah, that'll work. We can pay the plan. Well, a thousand dollars. I just thought it would be hilarious if you were like, just to get you started in model railroading. Yeah, pretty much. So I have an interest in model railroading because I have this obsession with things that are the wrong scale, whether it's something that's miniature scale or something that's normal size, but exploded huge. And I've always been interested in specifically end scale because it's tiny. It's almost the tiniest you can go. And I grew up loving trains. Obviously, I grew up as a Thomas, a tank engine kid, and a lot of people are freaked out about that. But and then I just got into trains as I got older. So I'm excited. Everybody that's like around my age within like a 10 year span is heavily influenced by Thomas, the tank engine. Yeah. You wouldn't download RC Maniac. Yes, yes, this is true. Please put your credit cards in cash here. So so real quick, before we get too far, because I want to do this at the beginning, we'll do it again at the end for the people are here later. You know, I've watched yourself for a long time.  So can you tell us who you are? What do you do and where we can find you? And then we're going to dive into the hard questions. All right. Well, my name is Jimmy. I am a model railroad YouTuber. My channel is the DIY and digital railroad. And the goal of the channel is to give people a place where they can start and they can really learn a lot of things about model railroading because model railroading is a very expansive hobby.  There's a lot of rabbit holes you can go down and having kind of a guide that's not going to judge you or, you know, kind of tell you that you're wrong and let you explore it. That's kind of the goal of what the channel what I want the channel to be so you can find your happy place in this hobby because it's a really fun, really family friendly hobby that can also expose, especially if you have kids, it can expose them to stem and steam and potentially inspire a career, whether it's engineering or creative things or things like that. Love it. Where do we follow you said DIY and digital railroad on YouTube? You're on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, all the things. Yeah, all the things. Yes. I love it. Well, you know, I one thing I love about your show is I often like I ask everybody what they're drinking up for so it's just a weird thing I've done forever on on the hot makes here and on my live streams and I'm like, hey, I'm drinking Lacroix water today. Let us know in the chat what you're drinking and then we let everybody know one thing that you do. You like to talk about coffee, right? And he likes to there you go. He likes to ask people what they're drinking and then you shout out those like in later videos, which I think is kind of nice, you know, that's awesome.  You know, tons of people love coffee and I love coffee because I have children and that's how I survive and but you know, it's just one of those fun things you can do with an audience to really create a community.  But so you have a question for Jimmy while we're talking, by the way, just throw it in the chat. We'll try to get to it for sure. Your day job will start real quick. You actually do like video stuff during the day. So it's kind of fun because you get to do that during the day and then you get it somehow. Fun time for your YouTube channel every every every second of the day. Besides your twins, you have twins, right? Yes, I've been three year olds almost about to be four. So yeah, I don't know when I sleep.  So it just made sense for me to do a YouTube channel. My mom always said that the one gift I have is the gift of gab. So talking in front of a camera is not going to be difficult for me. So it it's really one of those things that just made sense. It actually started when I posted a Google sheet that was designed to be able to like automatically route your cars from one place to another or tell you where to send them. It doesn't actually control them, but it tells you where to send them. It's called a switch list. And I put that on Reddit and someone said, hey, you should make a video explaining that. And that's how the YouTube channel was born. Nice. It's always that tutorial, right? I mean, that's and that's I don't know about everybody else in the audience. But if I'm looking to do something that I've never done before, I'm going to YouTube to find a video like that's that's the thing nowadays. I think that like, how do I clean my end scale track? I don't know. Let's go YouTube and watch 10 videos about it because cleaning a track is very controversial. And there's 10 different ways to do it, right? Yeah. So you watch Ron's trains and things. No ox is awesome, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it's so so much fun to do the YouTube stuff. And one cool thing about your channel is that you're trying to just get people interested, show them how to start. And in some cases, as I see the Bambu Lab X1 carbon behind you, you actually model for railroading and you make said models. I think you sell them, right? You sell the models, too. I did. You did a lot of resin, too. Yeah, I did mostly resin just because it gets more detail. Obviously, it's it's resin 3D printing. That's what it's for pretty much is getting that detail. But the majority of my buildings on my layout are 3D printed and I designed myself. And I've really gotten into more of because 3D printers have proliferated and it's just so consuming with everything I had. I've really gotten into more of selling the STLs and and those files so that people can just download them. I also offer them on my Patreon, not trying to plug it, but a certain level model every month to print. So, yeah. No, that. So wait, wait, wait. If you're if you're a patron, there's a model a month. Yeah. At a certain level, at the highest level, you get a model every month, which I have to post because tomorrow is the first month. But that you get and you can download it. And I put it in a couple different scales. And if it's usually the scales that can actually fit on a printer, because when you get into the larger ones, you either have a super expensive printer or you're printing in pieces. So that's that's one of the benefits that I do, so people can have access to models. And there's a bunch of people who are really starting to get into building models for model railroads.  What what software do you use? With CAD, do you use a CAD program? I'm just using Tinkercad. That's the crazy thing. It's like, I just got like really, I was like, hey, I can do this. Follow Tinkercad user. Yeah. Yeah. I've started using Sketchup. I can't dedicate the time to like learn some other CAD software. So I've just been stuck in Tinkercad, which is fine. Still make cool stuff in there. Yeah. Yeah. My wife has been doing some really cool stuff. She just is teaching herself currently. I brought one of my next one, Carbon's Home, actually Morpheus went home. Minor actually named after Matrix characters. So Morpheus went home with a point to nozzle on it. And she's she's actually designing stuff for for like small scale, like miniatures, like doll housing, that kind of stuff. And she's actually having a lot of fun modeling, sending it to the printer. Oh, this drawer doesn't fit perfect. Fixing it, sending it. I thought it's it's really cool. Was he paused for you too? Or was I just on my end? Oh, no, that was me, too. Yeah, you said something wrong and the people came after you and stopped you for a second. So apparently I must have, I must have. But yeah, I don't know where I paused, but I love seeing the iterations. And one of the things that allows that to happen is the printer that's behind you, because they're so fast. This thing is just it's we were talking about earlier. It is just the most closest thing we have to a plug-in play printer right now. That's affordable. I am just blown away at how easy it is to use because I've, you know, I started off with flash floor or flash forge. And then I had like the the Anycubic Megas. And then I have a Prusa mini downstairs. And then I got this one. And this one is just, you know, Prusas are good. This one blows away the Prusa, in my opinion. You'd be with a lot of people in that opinion, I think. That is that is a. I love Prusa. I love Prusas. Don't do not get me wrong on that. My Prusa mini is amazing. Yeah. How many printers do you have? I had more. I've kind of dialed it back a little bit. I had a bunch of resin printers when I was really cranking stuff out. I had about five or six of them that I was going. But now I have two. I have one of the big, it's the Voxelab Proxima 8.9.  So I was like, it doesn't really matter which one it gets as long as it's got a G2 board in it. So I have one of those. And that's been my resin printer. And then I have, of course, the Elgu Washing Cure, was the XL or whatever it is. I think you have some behind you, Caleb. Yeah, yep. And that's what I use. And then I have this and a Prusa mini. And those are my printers right now. Nice. Well, what do you use the FDM for? Like, like iterating models or are you building like actual buildings in your set there, terrain maybe? Larger buildings that I can go in detail later. I'll do with that. But I also do accessories, like if you see, like this right here is 3D printed and things like that. And then if you get into the larger scales, like G scale, which is the outdoor garden stuff, you can actually get to where you can print bars. And I actually have this one sitting right here that I 3D printed. And you just put some brass rod axles on there. And yeah, it runs. I still got to do a little bit of tweaking on it, but that's the kind of stuff you can do in FDM. FDM, you do a little bit less the detail. You do more of the functional stuff in model railroading. When you want to get into the detail, you go to resin. Sure.  I mean, it's getting good. It'll never be as tight as resin is, right? But some of those models are super nice still. Yeah. And it's nice because resin is fantastic, but it just has that mess factor on it. And it's still the gold standard for doing buildings and stuff. Cause when you get into painting them, it'll bring out some of the lines when you see them. But overall, it is getting close. It's getting really close. I was looking for a picture I want to make sure I show. There we go. Perfect. We've been doing this. There's a place out here is some walkie light engineering club or something like that. And they have a larger scale with like a mile of track. And you can go out certain days and ride and they do it all free donate, you know, that kind of thing. And then they have a Halloween ride where they decorate the whole place really cool for Halloween and you can ride around at night with all the lights on and stuff like that. And we've been doing that. We found it last year and we've been taking my little guy and he loves it. We love riding it. And we'll just, you know, we'll just go a couple of times around and on the different, usually there's two or three sets of engines and cars running at the same time. And let's see, there you go. Oh, so there. Oh, that's great. Is that adorable? It looks like a seven and a half inch gauge. I could be totally wrong on that, but that's probably what that is. That yeah, that's that's one of those things. You don't want to know how much those cost. There's, he said there's some engines coming up, right? And I'm like, wait a minute. Oh, geez, that's loud. He said, I was like, wait a minute. There's some engines coming. I need, I might need to buy an engine. Here you go. So here's an, like a. That's so cool. Yeah. Hey, how come you guys riding right now? So you'll take your son there. How come you never took me there? Huh? He's definitely cooler than you. Um, yeah, that's fair. But this is much larger scale. No, this is much, much larger scale. What, what scale are you running in the background for people have never seen your channel before? So the one that I'm in the background is in scale, which is one to 160th. So it's very, very small. It's the one of the smallest of the widely commercial available, really the smallest one that's widely available as Z scale, which is one to 220th. But this is for those that, uh, there's a slight difference, you'll hear gauge and scale. Gauge is the width of the track and scale is the size relative to a real world, uh, item. And, um, the gauge of this is a nine millimeter width of track. And for frame of reference, what you just showed looks like the seven and a half inch track or gauge. So interesting. So much, I mean, obviously much larger, but I like, I went in scale. My original one was HO, the one I got when I was his age, probably. And, um, that was awesome. And then I was like, we could get so much more tracking if we do end. And I started finding, like, I found this really cool book, like, um, set up. And then I found that like little hands, not great with end scale, because they just grabbed and, and, and end scale, uh, not so much up for grabbing. It's not great. Yeah, I've gotten, luckily, I've gotten my son, my, my, my twins are boy girl. My girl, she'll just kind of come and watch it. And she likes hearing the sounds and all that kind of stuff. My son, he likes to, to touch him and all that kind of stuff. And I've gotten to the point now where I've shown him how to use the controller that I use. And he'll just want to use the controller. So I'm like, good, you don't touch it anymore. That's all he wants. He wants to turn it up and then like slow it down or turn it up and run around and watch it come through the tunnels, you know, and he'll go like full speed and watch it run through the tunnels. I did that when I was a kid.  And one of my favorite things was to build Lego tunnels for it and then just run it through full speed. Nice, full speed ahead, full speed. Lego is actually a growing segment of the hobby. They're calling it L scale. It's right around the size of Lionel, if you know what that is. It's right around that size. Yeah, sorry. Oh, no, go ahead. So my local Lego group that I'm a part of here in Arkansas called ArcLog, that's 90 percent of that group is all into L scale. And the the one guy, he runs a company called Brickforge and he prints like full kits for some of the engines for L scale stuff. Like for the for the tender and for the banding and all that stuff. Yeah, and there are people just doing this mind boggling stuff with it. Like they're building prototypical engines and doing the real paint schemes out of Lego and I'm just like, who I'm going to try and actually have one of the Lego city sets sitting in my closet over here that I'm going to try at some point for a video in the future. I'm just waiting for the moment because if I'm going to sit down to a Lego video, that's another rabbit hole to go down. First of all, yeah, and that's going to take me a little while. Yeah, I'm actually going to see if I can find one of Rob's photos to pull up. So recently, I think when we were talking a while back via email, you said recently got into lasers, too. So what what what laser are you what do you have and what have you been using that for? Yeah, what laser are you? Yeah, the shark laser beam. I'm a blue laser. It's my favorite color. Same here. I have an award for LM three. OK, that's solid. One thing that's always been available as really the high end precision kits in model reverting have been laser cut kits. And so now with the advent of lasers, not only can you very carefully cut and score styrene and you have to do that in a very well ventilated space, but you know, you can cut a lot of wood and all that kind of stuff and you can build it. There have been wood kits, laser cut wood kits and laser cut ABS plastic kits for the longest amount of time. And now you can make those yourself. And I'm just starting to get into it. But there's a lot of potential and there's already a bunch of people who use it in the hobby that do a lot of cool things with it. But scratch building is a really big thing in model reverting, especially the people that try to model a real world prototype section of a model railroad and they want to build the buildings to look exactly like the real world thing. They need to be able to customize. And between 3D printing and laser cutting and engraving, you're getting to the point where that's becoming a option for a lot more people. Well, especially because price in the last five years, the price has come down so much on laser engravers and cutters.  But the speed went way up. You know what I mean? And like the price on printers, you could get a really very decent printer that will print actually very well with a little bit of care for 200 bucks, you know? And and now with the lasers coming down, it's pretty awesome. And then something like the X1 carbon, the P1P.  And, you know, do that. There's one printing in the background that you can't really see right there that releases tomorrow. This one releases tomorrow. I can't talk about what it is or anything like that. But I can tell you that tomorrow will be the big day for that.  I won't. Mine will be Sunday. But but, you know, that actually has been a pretty solid printer. So far, everything I've thrown at it. And the prices have come so far down in these things that I mean, anyone say anyone, but most people can save up a little bit of money for a couple hundred bucks or for 600 bucks or for for the X1 carbon. Was that 1400 bucks, I think, for the whole with the AMS and everything? You know, get yourself that and print as many cars as you want. Those cars are just talk about the prices because those end scale, even end scale cars are expensive, man. Yeah. Like, yeah, there you go. What is that 25 bucks? I think this one shipped was 40. Yeah. But this is also a very nice one. This is this is Exact Rail, which is what another company's scale trains just bought out Exact Rail, which we're all really excited about. But it's really nice. It's pretty we're not talking about like the toy quality we're talking about. Added on details. Yeah. Looks like the real world cars. I'm actually going to send this one off to be graffitied by a guy who does model rubber graffiti because there is a thought you can buy graffiti decals to make your modern cars look more realistic. Yeah, that's awesome. I bet, you know, I wonder if you could get like scale graffiti in a hydro dip like in a sheet that you can hydro dip it. I don't know if you ever seen that before, but you could find like the actual print out whatever you want for the hydro dipping stuff, periodically, I think so. And as long as it's the scale size, ooh, that might be something that might be a fun video. I don't know if you've ever played with hydro. I've got to figure out how to hydro dip. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's like I'll have to find a video quick on it. But but like it's basically you take a we'll take a design and you drop it in and it's like water. And I think there's a if it's an oil or something or what. Actually, if tripods with us, he hydro dips right out of his toilet. So he could he could let us know how to do it. But basically, it's everybody saying traffic.  You can you kind of wash it off and pull it out. It's it's pretty sweet. This is me typing on my phone, figure out how to hydro dip. Yeah, I was just going to I was just going to go to a YouTube short here and bring it up. This is all my idea, my little idealist that I have for my video. I was like, but that one on there is sick. Just see. I wonder if anyone's doing it yet. Anyways, that would be a really cool. Because if you could, I don't know how it works to get the graphics, but if you could get scale sized graphics that would, you know, that'd be kind of a fun video to just scale the graphics. Yeah. So I pulled up here real quick. My friend, Rob, he has so this goes full circle around what we were talking about earlier because he made this. He designed this look a little of some sort as like a kit that people could buy. Try to make it as big as I can. But then he 3D printed piece by piece, a larger scale version of it. So that's like the actual Lego kit right there. And these are the larger 3D printed pieces. Oh, nice. Oh, that's sick. Yeah, I cannot. I just thought that was what I was motive is called. Maybe I can zoom in here. It's a geared locomotive. So it's meant for like it's geared like a shea. Yeah, it's that's meant for like going up in like logging railroads and in the mountains and narrow gauge and things like that. But I just thought it was funny. I was trying to pull up one of his Lego train, his L scale stuff like we were talking about. And they just happen to be one that he also 3D printed everything we were talking about. The 3D print with a laser can. Cush me a freaking bone here, Scott.  I. Let's see. This is a this is a let me pull this up real quick here. I make sure there's no no audio. OK, we're good. Here you go real quick. So this is a mask. So they they laid the the graphic down. People are talking about tripod's toilet dip. Anyways, they laid the graphic down in the white mask under the graphic. And then when you pull it back up, so cool. There's a carbon fiber. Yeah, that's awesome. But if you see a video in like six months of me this is how you hydro dip graffiti onto your. Yeah, I mean, but if you think about it, if you could get, you know, if I'm pointing at the screen like you can see me, if you could get the graphics, the size that you needed for your train car, you know, that would be pretty sick. And I don't know how this works. It's like it's pretty like. I mean, it would have to be something that would be like a repeated pattern because like there's no there isn't really much accuracy on where you're placing that like this, right? So that's just a wood pattern and they're dropping a dashboard piece into this thing. And there you go. It comes out looking like wood. So cool. Cool idea. But yeah, I thought about that when you said you're sending out for graffiti.  Yeah, taking one apart right now to see if it'll this is what you can get a part to the little shell that they do the molding. Oh, there you go. So you can dip that. Oh, yeah, you could actually, you know, the best part about that is you could dip that in just a small. I don't know, rubber made like tote that's like this big, you know, because that's not big parts. Yeah. Oh, and also I think a tripod can correct me if I'm wrong. But I think I've seen before that you can like mask off sections when you're hydro dipping too. So you don't get it all over the roof and stuff, which wouldn't make sense. Probably could. Yeah, that would make sense. Yeah. I'm about to you're about to get me to open the floodgates on custom. I'm about to be like the Arduino 3D print laser cut and hydro dip guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was going to say you just some really cool stuff with Arduino programming like with your lights and like gates and stuff like that. And I think a lot of people here that watch the show are also interested in, you know, our dreamers and programming that kind of stuff.  But that's really fun stuff that you can program right into your basic in Arduino, right? It is. And I will warn anyone who's an actual like coder. I am not a coder, which is probably why I use Arduino the most because it's fairly easy to use. So like my code is not the prettiest, like put it up for an award code. But, you know, it is one of those things where I just started tinkering with it and learning more and more and more. And one of the really cool things that has happened with model railroading and Arduinos is the two types of ways you can run a model railroad is with DC, which is direct current. You just vary the voltage for speed. And then there's digital command and control, which is DCC. And back in, I think 2015, I can't remember his name, but he basically just wrote a bunch of code for an Arduino. And it was called DCC plus plus. And he made it where you can plug it into a free program that's called JMRI, Java Model Railroad Interface. And it can control your model railroad. Well, another group of guys, this is all volunteer work, by the way. This is no one's getting paid to do this. They have created, they it was originally called DCC plus plus EX for expanded DCC EX. And this is actually what my video that came out today was about. They have gotten it to the point where it has become one of the best systems for running like a small to medium sized model railroad. And it is just amazing what they have done. They've put in they've have you can put Wi-Fi on it. You can connect directly to it using Android and iPhone apps to control it. I've got one right here that you can do. And it's just it's mind blowing what they're doing. They're working, doing some automation and all of these different things. And what they have done is not only create something amazing for free. It's just a group of guys that love model trains. And it's just it's opening up because of the price. You can build one of these systems for under $50.  And I can if you can put me full screen, I can show you this right now. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. So this is an app called Engine Driver. It's for Android. There's a couple for Apple, which is, I think, why throttle and then I like train driver as well. But this is probably the best one overall. And basically this one, this particular setup has three throttles and I can power it up right here. I have a power button set right there and then I can go in and DCC locomotives have addresses. And I'm going to click the little green one back there. That's number forty five oh one and I can get that going. I don't know if you'd be able to hear it. Can you guys hear that? Yeah. What? That's so cool. So I can just realize it's going backwards. So I need to change its direction. That's so cool. Hope it doesn't wreck because I don't know if I have all my turnouts aligned. But that's a yeah, that's. And this is all just people doing this for free. And it's just. It's amazing what it does. That's one of the model. Rewarding is like all the other creator hobbies where it's so collaborative. But all the major software for the hobby has been made by people for free. J.M.R.I. is free. DCC EX is free engine driver. That app right there is free. It's just it's one of the coolest things about the hobby. If if if young little kid Caleb knew. Jim, what's going on? I think you're muted. Yeah, I'm muted myself. Oops, I said it was cool to see the open sourcedness. Like you see that in 3D printing. You see that in almost all of the different maker spaces, right? Where there's like a group of people or a large number of people to come together and do all the different open source projects and make printers in our case, in your case, trains and programs to run them. And now I need it now that you've shown it. I'm up to watch today's video. I didn't get time today and now I want it. So there's that. So so I want to get to questions because we're we have a few questions. But I got I got to ask you this. I have a DCC track and I'm not sure I'm going to keep it or do something different when I got it. It was it was made by somebody else, right? I'm going to pull up a picture while I'm talking here. And and they let it sit like on its side for like what I thought was not too long. But when I got there, the sun was like, oh, it's probably been there like five years, like five years. So some of the some of the tunnels, turns, stuff like that, that this this person had made before. It was the guy's brother that sold it to me actually like caved in. So my trains won't I ripped rails off of my train like, you know, driving through and all of a sudden you hear the train hit something and the rail goes flying off the side because apparently it's too tight now. He rails off of his train. But I did. I really did. Can you just like push? I don't know if it's like kind of like a plaster. Basically, like you make your mountains and stuff. Can I just push that stuff like crunchy to end up to what, you know, make it wider? Is that a thing? It depends on what it's made of. There's there's a couple of different ways that people make them. The mountains that I have behind me are actually a couple of different ways. The the long one is made of extruded foam that's just stacked up that you get from Home Depot. And then the the tall one in the very back behind me for those of you that are watching on the video that is made of like a carbon or not carbon cardboard. It is not carbon fire. It's too much money. That's a carbon fiber mountain. So yeah, it's it's a cardboard weave and then with just a plaster pair of sheets on it. And then the rocks are just plaster. There's molds you can buy from Woodland Scenics, which if you've done any sort of scenic modeling, you know, that company. I'm pretty sure that's this. I mean, you can see the plaster down here. Yeah, he's done. It looks like yeah, it looks like cardboard. And if I had to guess and a whole bunch of that's a lightsaber. Let's go this way. So what is that?  I know. It was the wrong video. But so so like a bunch of tunnels, the bridges, all the lights like the buildings light up and that kind of stuff. Right. I picked this up for 200 bucks. That's pretty good. And three. Let's see. These two rails in here, the inner side ones hit at some points, they hit. So I got to figure that out. I've been eating track because it sat for so long, that kind of thing. But where it hits is like, it'll come around here and hit the side like right in here because it's kind of like bulged out or something. So like knowing that it's probably, I don't know, cardboard or plaster and plaster over to survive. Theoretically, I should just be able to like crush this in here. Right. Or push it in there, paint it and dry brush it, make it look like a rock. That's what I would do. That crisis to make some some scale model dynamite to fix those tunnels. I love it.  This is a nice little model railroad. Those kits are there. Those are all design preservation models kits, it looks like. So that's a classic model railroad kit.  It's a good job. You're probably looking at something that was between. Five hundred and a thousand dollars in materials. Was time right to mention the amount of time and then time. Yeah, just yeah, there was a lot of time put into this one just because I'm looking at what roadbed would be. Bridges are always difficult. That you've got all those turnouts. I was going to say the 15 turnouts in the front. No, they're and they're all 20 to 30 bucks of pop to all the way up to 50 pop. Yeah. And there's eight of those and they're electric. I had to rewire it all because it was all crazy. So I actually watched a bunch of videos and learned how to do that. So that was fun. Um, but yeah, it was it's. So you suggest maybe just, I don't know, pushing it in and repainting it and shifting it forcefully. I like that around with it. Yeah, um, see, there you go. See, that's really great right there. That's, you know, that's this is someone who took a lot of time in this. And this is definitely I will say that you got a deal on this layout. That's that's a really good layout. If you want to, does it already have a DCC system? Did you say it did or or was it doesn't right now? Yeah, it's DC right now. Just have a DCCX system and run it off your phone. So so now, now I need to learn, I got to figure out, do I need to add wires? Do I need to wire different that kind of thing? But I'd be okay with that if I did. We'll have to talk offline because you will know if you crossed a wire because the engine will just go, well, um, well, I need to run wiring to different parts of the track. Right now it's ran to the different tracks, right? To each one of those tracks in a DCC setup. Well, I have to wire it in multiple spots or. So this is one thing that a lot of people get tripped up on when they're maybe converting from DC to DCC. If you're running multiple trains and multiple tracks in old school DC, your wiring is actually more complicated than it is with DCC. Because basically you're just taking a signal and putting it to track with constant voltage. You're using basically pulse with modulation to send the signals to the to the decoders to tell them what to do with the locomotive. So basically you're just doing a connection from whatever and you just have to make sure that all of your track has the same wire going to it because if it's a crossed wire, you get a short and you just hear and eventually it'll just cut off or it'll catch fire. Oh, then we have the dynamite. Yeah, interesting. OK, now I'm going to have to check it out. It probably won't catch fire. Come on, darn it. Yes, you need some cellular oil on the trains there. They're making fun of my how I talk. Jim, can you say the word cellular or oil? Have you ever tied a little doll to the train and watched the train run over at Jesus? No, I have not. There was another question. No, there was another question that came through from Battlecry asked what size person would you would be the proper scale to tie the tracks for the trains asking for a friend? He's on some other life here and going, how do I set up voodoo? Welcome to Hot Makes where we talk about running models over with trains. Oh, I'd probably do more damage to the locomotive than you will the little the little figure. Yeah, funny, especially if it's in scale. Jeez, Scott Bergham, I believe, asks where you can. Where can we buy Jimmy's STL's? So right now I have some for sale on Etsy. I don't think I sent that link to you, but I can. I will get that to you shortly after the show. OK, nice. And then and your patron or Patreon and Patreon. If you're a member of my Patreon at the five dollar a month level called the engineer level, you get access to I think there's thirty one different models in there. That's so cool. That's awesome. That's a good deal. So we have one. Matt German, say, same time. He said he says, have you ever just let your trains crash? He's he's into the crashing thing today. I think it's like Adam's family over here. Yeah. I've never let them crash. They have crashed. I have these double crossovers that sometimes I'll forget that they're set the wrong way and you'll just get a nice little cuts clean through the middle of a set of cars. So that's crazy. R.C. Maniac asks, do you have a favorite scale? Is there a scale you wish you could get into? Or is there a scale you think is overrated? Good questions. Good questions. I don't think there's an overrated scale. Just, you know, I'm not going to I'm not going to bash on a Joe scale just because it's the most popular. But, you know, I love in scale in scale is just fun because I like big expansive scenery and it gives you more of a chance for that. I'm trying to think it just it really the nice thing about having so many scales is that it can be whatever your taste is. If you like more of the running trains with maybe slightly not exact scale, you can get into Lionel with their lower end stuff. And you can run that.  You can also, you know, if you really want big trains, you can run garden railroads outdoors.  Oh, yeah, that's the Lionel one. And there is some of that that you can run outdoors. It's really done more in Europe than it is here. But yeah, so and then if you don't have a ton of space, you can get all the way down. I think the smallest one right now is T gauge or T scale. And it's one four hundred and fiftieth, but it gets really confusing because there's T scale, which is one four hundred and fiftieth, and there's T gauge, which is one one hundred and twentyth. So, you know, we just love we just throw letters on there. Yeah. Speaking of what's your dream scale? One to one. I'm just going to buy a railroad. One one scale. There we go. Yeah.  One of the two remaining big boys goes private. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm restoring one of the big. I'm restoring one of the big Y six. I think there's a Y six, a which is a similar locomotive to the big boy without getting too deep into the woods. There's one of them left and I'm going to pay to restore that. That's what I'm going to do. There you go. That'll do it. Speaking of H.O. scale, I don't know if you are possibly wherever a Transformers fan as well. But back we had a episode seventy one, almost a hundred episodes ago of the show where we had a surprise, a little guest to visit from a guy named the Lee, what he goes by the lazy eyebrow. And he made a he was 3D printing and the guts from some of his engines to make a H.O. scale astrotrain, like functional astrotrain from Transformers that ran on his tracks and he had like five millimeter pegs on the on the jet engine so you could put like little blast effects from the Transformers and stuff in there is pretty cool. So that's the cool thing. You can do whatever you want with this hobby. It's it's one of the super hobbies where you can do whatever. There's people who have no scenery whatsoever and just do all sorts of stuff with running trains and code. There's people who don't care about any of the features. They just want to make pretty scenery and everywhere in between. That's awesome.  But he loves the trains as we go to the big train shows when they whenever they're around. And it's so cool to see all the crazy stuff that people bring out. Only trains dot com is that it does that? Yeah, we need to hold the train site. But here's here's one. The CSX and Norfolk Southern Pittsburgh. Oh, sorry, Caleb, dude, you're killing me. It's been a last couple months since you showed your H.O. scale. Can you tell us what's up with that? Yeah, so I have a little one by six project model railroad. I've been starting to name them. I built one that was a two by four in scale. That was called MRR one, and this has been MRR two. And it is pretty much done. I just have to order the detail parts and then we'll get. We'll get the final video showing all of that because it's a little one by six switching layout, which is a way that a lot of people get into the can do the hobby without a ton of space as you build like an little industrial area.  You just switch cars and it takes maybe 20 or 30 minutes to do it. And a lot of people do the hobby that way, too. That's so fun.  How does Jimmy keep that beard so tidy? Yeah, love the beard questions. OK, so this is like the nicest it's looked in a while. Like sometimes like you'll look at my videos and you'll tell when I've been at like a stressful week because I'll just look like disheveled. I'm like, I'll have like the hair out of here. And I'm just like, hey, everyone, this is my coffee. And but I use I actually started using the Phillips the one blade thing. Oh, that's been really, really good. It can do up to like nine millimeters like that. But it's really good for shaving without having to worry about cutting myself so I can get the nice gauge. Yeah, it's all connected. It's all about trains, one of us, one of us. Also, Liz Liz asked where zombie was to say I like trains. That was the first thing one of the first things he said in this chat earlier at the beginning of the episode. Liz, he said, I like trains. He said, I like trains. And last but not least, before before we get to hot makes Lightspeed made an ocean gate model sub and had it on it or has it on Etsy. And he said lots of I guess you made it O scale O scale. I'm not sure if that's a funny joke. Like, oh, scale or if that's being serious. You have to let me know, Steven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then here, this is this is from this past weekend. Recognize that? That is who knows. It's actual tracks, so yeah. It's this is the this is the Harry Potter. We went to a Harry Potter festival kind of thing where they it's an old historical site where they have all bunch of historical buildings. One of the things they have is a train station and behind here, you can't see it really well, but they're rehabbing or rebuilding a caboose, a very old school. But I love cabooses. This is the lady in here explaining the steam train to my son here. But I was hoping I didn't I didn't Sarah sitting next to me and I'm wearing headphones so she can't hear any of this conversation. All she hears is what I'm saying. Yeah, and she just she's just out of nowhere. No context here is, man, I love cabooses. So good. That's funny. And another funny thing is if you ever watch Harry Potter, you know, the favorite Hogwarts Express train, right? That's a Jacobite train in Scotland. And I've been on that train for my honeymoon. We went out there and we took the Jacobite and went over the famous viaduct. All is so cool, such a cool ride. Sarah probably love it if I took her to do that at some point. Yeah. She's not listening, but we can make up something funny that you could say like glitter. We're talking about big cabooses and glitter and powdered melts, something we wanted to do cabooses and a midget and a midget. She just give me that. All right, we got some hot makes to show. You're going to hang out. Let's see some stuff that the community made. Yeah, let's do it. You got a couple. All right, let's do this. We're rock and roll. I know you have little ones in there probably going to bed sometime about right now. I just heard a scream in the distance. So and it was so maybe you want to stay on longer is what you're telling me. I'm just waiting to hear my wife with the louder scream. It was actually it was actually she's being awesome right now.  That was where that scream came from. When it started going in reverse. I love the trolley problem going on behind you and just didn't know it. All right, you're right. Yeah, let's do it. Let's roll the hot makes. I got to ask this, Jimmy, what would your alter ego name for a train? What would be your alter ego name for a train? What does that even mean? What does it mean? If you had an alter ego, I was like a train was named after me. Like if you were in Thomas, the tank engine, like what would your name be? Is that what you're saying? My name is James. So there's there's already a James. Oh, yeah, there is a James.  I feel like Jimmy, Jimmy sounds like a.  Like he's the he's the the train that's a little shiesty. Like you don't you don't mess with Jimmy, Jimmy, the train. The next thing you know, they'll be running off the tracks right into the Viaduct. Look at some cars that you can't refuse. And I need them in the Napford. Oh, my, I love it. You're ashamed of something happened to your boiler. It might be some busted tracks along the way. You're going to need some buffers this weekend. Let us let us know in the chat what your alter ego name would be for a train. And all right, here we go. Steven Pool, this is Kate and Marvin printed with Polymaker 3D filament and modeled by what is this red dad, Steve? Those are some great prints. Those are gorgeous. Yeah. So is this was this was this an MF? Wow. Wow. Good night, folks. You OK? You having a heart attack? Yeah, I'm all right. Was this a heart attack? You mean a stroke? Was this an M.M.U. print or are they separate pieces? I believe there's there's separate pieces, but I want to say it's both. The practical printing says his training would be practical pulling. Ah, there you go. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is. Definitely a multicolor in some spots, but also multi piece. That is cool. Well done. But you're good. Oh, of course. And just guys just hanging out in the background, like, hey, how you doing, you know, it's just me. Zombie Captain America. Just a low key like high res print in the back. But no, not lucky. Captain America. Oh, oh, oh, I saw that. Yeah, but that Steve is usually pieces. Nice. All right. Next, Johnny five. That's a man right there. That's our track Star Trek. Yeah, this is the first contact movie poster and this is a color that the best next generation movie. It's the best next generation. I love it. No, my wife was a Star Trek fan as well. I got into the movies, but like I never watched the shows very often. It's a lot to take in. It's like, you should try Star Trek. Where do I start? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know the last generation. I don't know. Did you ever watch Firefly? Your first generation. Of course, I've watched. Don't get me started. Oh, no, well, we will go way off the rails if we start talking about because I am like Firefly Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, both of them and the Expanse, all those. We can go like a whole nother hour right now. So yeah, I still haven't seen the Expanse. Oh, I'm going to watch it too. Yeah, I've read it. I've watched a few. Yeah, we didn't. I think we ran out of time. Like when we started, we watched a few episodes and then we just there's so much, you know, and so little time that we kind of just shifted and never went back to it. I need to get back to that one. Yes, Stranger Worlds has been awesome that just saw the comment pop up. I have to check that out, too. Geez, there's too many. All right, next, Shane on Twitter. Expanse is just my final frontier. What are we tagging here? Should have put a hot mix tag on it, too. OK, I know what episode that's from in Star Trek. And I'm just laughing. Here's an actual hot dog. In the episode. No, it's not the hot dog. OK, that's OK. There you go. Oh, that's cool. What? Yeah, that's. Is this like printing food? Is this a pancake printer? But it's printing like things that you draw to laser. And then they're like here, I'm going to drop a name on the screen and then put it on the name on it. So is it like? OK, so is it carving the name? Are we? It says it's the world. The world's first cafe where messages and letters drawn on the touch panel are laser engraved right in front of your eyes. Love it. The homemade baked cheesecake and various dessert wines. What? What does that have to do with the rest of that? You know, the whole wine, you're on a whole other level. I love it. I love this. This is so cool, man. I I absolutely love it. And it actually, if you noticed when they when they write their name, it burned how they wrote. I don't think I don't think it cleaned it up. So it's like, yeah, the handwritten. Yeah, I love the little like duck animation, too. I love it. I'm happy when I can make a light blink and this person is doing like handwriting to laser engraving food. And then, of course, the laser beam hot dog here. Just I mean, that's another hot make right there. Anyways, if you go further down, it looks like, yeah, there it is. What? Oh, oh, it's the next one. You pulled it for the next one. Yeah, no, this is this is Tripod's garage. So he in his laser reviews, like he usually burns some sort of food like dog treats or Twinkies or something like that. It looks like he ran a ran a hot dog. I guess I'm guessing that smells terrible. Oh, so good. It's so funny.  Why not? Safety first. Don't stick your wieners in the lasers. Don't press me. Take my word for it. Brett is why thinking now. Well, she could see the hot dog on the screen. So this one at least has some context. Safety first on a hot dog. She actually saw the laser engraved hot dog button. She looked at me and she's like, why are we not doing that right now? So wait a minute. If you use this hot dog, Denise, I think Denise might be watching Denise. If you use your safety first hot dog in a saw stop table saw. Oh, that'd be like a little circle. Have you ever seen those saw stops where they drop the hot dog? Like they go to touch it and it drops down fingers. So it just yeah, yeah. Safety first people. Yeah. Mind head conflicts. So from what I understand, I think it was William Osmond that put out a video or maybe it maybe it was one of those other guys where they they used a laser to cut pizza. And from what I understand, it smelled like death, like it just and it tastes a terrible like. So what I've always understood is if you put food in a laser, it's bad times, bad, not good times. I think Tripod said he really loved those Twinkies that he did. He can comment in the chat. OK, here we go. The laser engraved Twinkies. Yeah, he did a Twinkie. I think to be fair, he said it was not good. It was bad. Finally got around. This is Ian from Super Hugh Forger. Tripod says Twinkies were awful. Yeah, Hugh Forges, an amazing program. I don't know if you've played with Hugh Forges, Jimmy, but it's it's basically. How do you explain? It's it's the opposite. You know what a lithophane is where you can you print it and then you can hold it up to the light and you see the picture come through. So this is the opposite. It actually prints the color on the top. So right in and in Hugh Forge, you can go in and drop your image in. You all sorts of fun colors and designs and all sorts of crazy stuff. And you tweak it in Hugh Forge and then you get your print file out of this program. And it's 11 bucks if you just want to get started with this program and people are doing some just amazing. And this Ian guy just nails it. That is I believe I would buy that title. Critically, if I'm wrong, if anybody related to this is in the chat. But I think his title is the original Hugh Forger because he was one of the beta testers for the software, which is probably what he's so good at. He is sick. Yeah, I've saw some of these in in in person.  And Rushy Maniac says you can make fancy signs for your railroad stuff. There you go. Yeah, I mean, the the the sheer amount of stuff like this, that's 3D printed nuts. He's like, I don't know, Hugh Forge. All right, now I need a hydro dip and Hugh Forge. Look, I got to fill out my twenty twenty four calendar. So look at look at this. I mean, like I can't even. Can't even. And this is all printed. R.C. Maniac says for Jimmy's sake, that's like two millimeters thick is how thick that. Yeah, like it's they're small. They're tiny. Yeah, they're thin. But they have that kind of like or they're thin. Yeah, but they have that kind of detail in them. It's so cool. And then you can drop them on light.  But this is what it it looked like on the plate. And that's what it actually came out as. So good. And he's using he's using your AMS. Uh, Jim, that's the best picture I've seen of you. I know, right? That was me. I I would definitely have a better YouTube channel. All right. That's what I look like after I put my kids to bed. You were talking about when your beard is just shoveled. Yeah. Yeah. He's trained just crashed and he just got his kids to bed. He's like, all right. It's a combination of that and the bin and the bin athlec mean with the cigarette when he hears something. Oh, I'll fix him. Dude says happy birthday to Wester, Wester, happy birthday. Happy birthday to Wester. Yeah, I love all the Wester.  I still love that model. Happy birthday to Wester and I hope you had a great one. Also, Caleb, happy birthday, man. Yes, sir. It was your birthday between last week and this week. Oh, Sarah made this. So Sarah made well, she didn't make the baby, but she made the little overalls for him in my favorite color blue. Oh, with a little tail. She's literally crocheting right now while she's sitting next to me. That's cute. It's adorable. I've been carrying them around in my computer bag to work. And of course, the Lego got to have the Lego, right? Yeah, it's a birthday train. It's a birthday train. Yeah, it's a Lego train. It's got a little can. It's got a little candle on top and a scene and scene. And it's got a little birthday present on the back that it that it rocks around. I love it. Well, that's even better. It's a birthday train all aboard. This entire episode unintentionally has been Lego 3D printing and trains. Yeah. Well, I mean, intentionally, it was trains. Intentionally, it was trains. Everything has been circling back around. It's gone. Is there anything else we need in life? Everything comes back to trains. I'm you are correct. Everything. Everybody's looked directly at me. You're going to go by trains. You're going to be a model railroader. You love trains. One of us, one of us and watch Jimmy's channel. How to use them. Say to the end when the little spinny thing comes up. Yeah. I love it. All right. Happy birthday to your list of that, but I love this. Happy birthday, Caleb. No regrets. Oh, fix him. Do that. Yeah. No regrets. No regrets. So Caleb is infamous for having multiple here. I'm going to put you large. He has multiple brands tattooed on him in the 3D printing scene, like atomic and barnacles, barnacles, pasta, pasta. Proto pasta is the one that this picture was of. That he posted that I'm pointing on my screen. Like you can see me now, too, that he photoshopped. And then I've also got see me CNC. Yeah. Yeah. So now where he has to like tattoo one of the crappy brands on him if he loses the bet like I like this. I like like hotmakes. What? No. Or the edge of tech. Like a net. Like. Yeah. Yeah. Edge of tech. Get out of here. I want to get a hotmakes one here soon. Yeah. I think we should we should make a bet and whoever whoever loses has to get an A net tattoo. I like that. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm very sorry to ever lose this for that. Well, at least we could put flames behind it. And it would be anyways. Oh, Jesus. Next up we have what we got. Oh, Langdon, right, Brandon? What is this? Oh, yeah, we did the titanium mountain bike. Yeah, he was on a lot like a long time ago. Like I say a long time goes last year, but titanium mountain bike rotor 3D printed as a 50 millimeter tall single part and then two millimeters slices are cut off. I mean, serious. That's that's 3D printed. I love it. Like I'm assuming it works. Otherwise, we wouldn't be showing it off. It's titanium. It better work. That's cool. I love it. He used to play with some really fun stuff, by the way, for the record. He was on an episode 91. Jeez. So it was last year. That was one year ago. Crazy. All right, Denise. Or Denise, I said Denise. She's Dennis Crawford. Dennis Crawford. I have not. I didn't look at this. I probably should have. But oh, boy, yellow. Oh, hello, plastic people. Hey, John, what are we looking at? Oh, it's a 3D printed house. OK, houses. Yeah, yeah. We're good. We're OK. Yeah, you start. Well, that's also concrete, right? I mean, you could probably print a train with that. You could. You probably have a very heavy train. Yeah, true. Wouldn't it be heavier than an actual color? Like a load, though? It depends on what kind of cars you're taking. If we're talking about pulling like hopper cars full of coal or the basics, because, you know, they haul the components for cement via rail most of the time. So right.  Do we have situations where like giant pre-made concrete pylons would be transported, you know, on a flat bed or something like that? It would basically be the same thing, right? Like, yeah, I mean, they transport a lot of different things. I mean, they transport like fuselages for airliners and like you can buy models of that. Yeah, so there's a lot of different. I forget what the name of there's a very special type of piece of rolling stock that's used to haul very weird and oblong things. And I cannot remember what it's called to save my life right now. But it's like got multiple trucks on it. I'm trying to figure out. It looks like frosting, like I just want to eat it because I'm hungry. It is so. I could watch this all day. It's very satisfying. Very satisfying. All right. Thank you for for checking us in that one, Dennis. All right. Two more and we can get out of here. Chris Russell, are your E3D online coloclips getting you down? Dennis, he's looking for when they go flying. That is I remixed the official clip design with a handy pull tab to keep it in your hands. Genius, Chris. Come on. Oh, OK. Yeah.  That is the practice for printing we're looking for, Chris. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. You could tie them to something and put a little hole in them. I like that idea. Like put a little rope on it or something.  Next up. Last one. Big channel. Thank you. Everyone who came by the live stream tonight had a great time trying out the fixed dry official tricolor blue, green, purple. Yeah. Yeah. That's a cool build. Silk PLA. Yeah. This is a printed place VW bus. Isn't this a Fixum Dude? Yeah. This is a Fixum Dude. Yeah. Nice. Fixum Dude. Dude. We need a, hey Fixum Dude said something about a 17 minute house. All right. Here's what we need.  See how fast we can print one.  Well, they can, they're pretty fast. They can print them. The smaller houses, they're doing them in what 24 hours or something like that. I mean, just for, it's literally just obviously the frame of the house. Yeah. And I think they're. And there were overhangs there too. I'm assuming they have to put some sort of support. Oh, sorry. I'm tired. Support structure underneath and then remove it when it's done. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. Or just leave it in. They might just leave like a thin board or something across and. Oh, maybe. Yeah. How are you going to peel it out of the concrete? I'm not sure. What we need to do is go visit one of these, one of these places. We need to find somebody who, it's in Texas? Yeah. We need to find somebody who works with these and see what it would take to get them on the show. Yes. That would be, we definitely should do that. I wonder if we could contact those people. Maybe we'll have to look it up and contact them. Nobody knows anybody. But anyways, we are way over, we're 17 minutes over. I know Jimmy has stuff to do, very busy. And, whoa, it's random people talking behind you. Hi, Sarah. I know. I would show you, but the camera is like seven feet in front of me. You got to tell her hi. I said, hi dog park girl. Jim says, hi dog park girl. That was their first date at a dog park. That's why I call her Jimmy. Anyways, that was some cool stuff that the community submitted. We see that every week. If you want to see your stuff or somebody else's stuff, hit that hashtag hot makes as you see on the bottom of the screen. And we will find it. We'll drop it on the show and check it out. I know we're over, but it's for good reason. I think Justin's being a little facetious here. Yeah. But I know we're over. Jimmy's an awesome guest. I really appreciate you hanging out with us tonight.  So thank you so much. No, I'll stay in here. I'm afraid she's going to be like, ah, I'll take her. Well, thank you. Thank you to her too for giving you some time to join us tonight. A big thank you to Mrs. DIY because she is so of the kids, which they're, I love them to death, but they are crazy right now. It's a handful. Twin three-year-olds, boy girl. Twin three-year-olds. I mean, I can only imagine. So there's that. All right. But yeah, stay right there. But before we go anywhere one more time, who are you? What do you do? And most of all, where can we find your stuff? My name is Jimmy. I run the DIY and digital railroad YouTube channel. I do model trains just like what's behind me. It's all about getting started and getting educated and model railroading so you can have fun with the hobby in a place that's not going to judge you and is just going to be a fun place to learn and you can learn all the terminology and the ins and outs. And so you can get to the point where you can get to a jumping off point for model railroading and have fun in it. And just really educating people on a very family friendly and fun hobby. Awesome. Family friendly. Well, go check out his channel. You definitely have to check out his channel. He puts out some really great stuff. And especially if you're, here's the thing. If you have any interest in trains, go back, watch them as videos. And then in two weeks, when you spent a lot of money getting your own trains, don't yell at me because it's very infectious. Like you just watching your stuff, you're like, I could do that. Like, oh, that's cool. I can, you know, and then you start like. Then you've only got three credit cards and you're like, huh? Yeah, yeah. I bought an engine and two cars and there was a 200. I took out a third mortgage on my home, like. That's not even a road. That's, it can get it. It can get pricey. I actually have a, I have a Lego train unbuilt, sitting in the house right now. So I think I might go build that tonight. Do it. There you go. Thank you so much for being on with us. Stay right there. We'll be right back with you, Jimmy. Everybody else. Thank you guys for being here. We'll see you next Monday right here on HotMakes and we have some fun stuff planned for August. So stay tuned for that. See you next time. Right. Anything else? We're good. No. Bye everybody. Thanks for joining us, Jimmy. Have a great night. Have fun. Later.