I want to inform you that we have ears on the ground, we have our members in Zingalume. There is so police officers surrounding Zingalume ground as areas two o'clock in the morning. Now I want to challenge Graphio Musamba. You said you had security concerns. And we said please mobilize your police officers to come and protect us if you have those security concerns. You refused and yet you have the audacity to bring 500 police officers to surround the ground. You have even the audacity to have even more police officers to block all roads leading to Zingalume. We were saying no more roadblocks in Zambia and those roadblocks and those are illegal roadblocks. They are unguzzeted roadblocks. Now a country where you have ministers who do things without any SI without guzzetting them is a government of illegality. These are people who don't even know what governance is about.  You don't just wake up and say because you don't want to go to Matero you mount a roadblock. On a daily basis people's houses are being broken into and Musamba, instead of sending the police to go and protect our homes, is sending police to come and stop Rafa Nakachinda and myself and Silvia Tariqosa and others. I want to say that the level of paranoia you have entered into is extremely dangerous for yourself. Now you are starting to even fear your own shadow. And let me warn you Harajinde, you are not going to continue to step on the liberties of Zambia. To curtail my freedom of movement is to curtail my constitution of freedom. And you have no right to do it. To stop people from congregating in a country which is a democratic country, is taking this country more than 50 years back.  Even when you are called to police you would go and bring people on busloads from far places just to come and defend you one person. For us in the patriotic front you will not see us with guards. Even when you arrest us we come only with a few people come to support us.  That's what you are, scared little man. Now you are even scared of us speaking to the people. My dear fellow citizens, we in the patriotic front have entered this space because we want to continue to speak for and on behalf of the Zambian people. And that nobody will stop us. Nobody will stop us from doing that. A lot of our members are gathered at Zingalume. Notwithstanding the fact that the police have even brought their big armored vehicles. Carrying air care for the servants against who? You want to govern us by fear? You want to govern us by gunshots? We had the right and we still have the right to hold the Zingalume rally. We have that right. But we are also aware of the instructions that Jack Mwimbo has given to the police. Whoever comes there beat them up. Mame them. Mame them. So they learn a lesson.  No. We do not want to bring you more way. Any of our members in Hamsway. I, given Nubinda, acting president of this party, could stay away from that rally. Rafa Onakachinda can stay away from that rally. No one but can go and address it. Provincial chairman Kulusaka province can go and address it. If it is us their targeting, we are not short of leaders. We are not short of leaders. And the ideas that I have, ideas that I share with my colleagues. So even without me, even without Rafa or even without these people, others can go and exchange those ideas with our people. Take note. However, I don't want, I don't want any single Zambia, any single member of the party to be exposed to the hungry jaws of Haga indigene. That I will not do. I will not be reckless to take my people to where I know these fellows are planning harm to members of my party. That I will not do. That I will not do. I have said before of what use is it for me to be a leader at the expense of Zambians. If I bring Zambians into Hamsway and they are injured. What message will I have? Of what use will my message be? I therefore appeal to all of those members of ours who are gathered at Zingalumi. And the many who are already preparing themselves to come to Zingalumi because a lot of members were expecting that the vice president to address the rally at 15 hours. And a lot of people have been calling, we are coming, we are bringing busloads of people. I appeal to all of them. Haga indigene has decided to show us that he is going to use the power of the gun to stop us from meeting. We could go there and break that code of it. But in the process what will happen? Some of us will be injured. If they could manage to airlift Immanuel Muambahuza alone. That about when we go in our hots, if we go in our large numbers. I appeal to all our members to go back to their homes. Painfully but peaceful. If Haga indigene thinks that he has won, let him hear me right in war to retreat his tactic. I have decided that this rally has been disrupted by force. It has been disrupted because of the intolerance of Haga indigene. It has been disrupted because Haga indigene is fearing. But if we start talking to people now in 2023. The exit dome might open for him not in 2026 but 2024. Today itself, some of us will be trying to get hold of the Inspector General of Police. So it can tell us how he managed to mobilize more than 500 police officers. More than 500 police officers to go in the code on the ground. When he said he didn't have police officers to protect our meeting. We didn't need 500 police officers. All we needed was just one police officer. Because on our own, nobody would come and attack us. Attack us for what? And yet we know that today at Zingalume, there were 500 police officers in uniform. And there were more police officers in plain clothes.  Working with the police. He says that have no cadders. The police officers who blocked us were being instructed by cadders. So we had to go to the road. And then we saw the road. We saw the road. We saw the road. And we saw the road. The road was not clear. We saw the road. So we saw the road. We shall go back and we shall dare them. We'll go back and we'll give them the required number of days and this time I want to see if again they will say security concerns. The beauty is that we have proven beyond all reasonable doubts that the people are hungry to have a rally with us. So members of the patriotic front wherever you are hearing me from, wherever you are watching me from, be happy. But even without busing anybody, the people were willing to come to Zingalumi. The people even walked as early as nine o'clock to Zingalumi because they wanted to listen to a party of wisdom. And if you think that we will stop, a man who will remember Rofi Onakachinda, use cyberspace. We are going to launch our strategic plan, whether Hagaende likes it or not we will launch it. And we shall continue to mobilize, we shall continue to go for rallies. And let us see. Now I am going to make sure that I change strategy. Instead of asking for one rally in Nusaka, I will ask for three rallies on the same day. So that you can bring 1500 police officers to scatter them across the country. Let me seize this opportunity to ask all provincial committees. You don't even have to ask us at headquarters. Now start writing to the police to tell them, give them notice that you want to have rallies. Let's have rallies, that's our right. You can't be a good politician if you are scared of opposition. Good politicians are those who encourage opposition, so you can size each other. Manjia, you manjia, president of... Ayopakutu kankana rally will start talking about the bricks. And we expose him why he went to the bricks meeting. Ayopakutu will start talking about the gold scandal. We are not interested, we want to tell the Zambian people our own program. We want, give us space.  And the graphs. Zambians also want to listen to other people, not only you and your graphs, which don't make sense. Instead of arresting the economy, instead of arresting inflation, instead of arresting prices of minimu, you want to destap us and arrest us. And so need to weapon. What do you want to do? We want to tell the people that you are president, that you are a good man. You know, you are a good man. You are a good man. You are a good man. My dear compatriots, I want to thank all of those who tender. I am extremely delighted. When I saw the pictures of the crowd that is at Zingarume, I felt extremely excited. All the phone calls we were receiving about our people already coming into material. I felt extremely excited. There is no doubt in my mind that the Zambian people are fed up. And the Zambian people want to listen to alternative voices and want to assure you that those alternative voices shall be heard. And nobody will stop us. I must admit that if my friends have questions for me or for anyone of us, I am available. Thank you very much for your attention. Thank you. We have provided our structures of instructed masteries beginning to apply for masteries. The president has repeated we are going back to Zingarume who gave me the details on Monday. Are there any questions? Members of the press? Yes, please ask the president. Yes, good afternoon, Mr President. My name is Masiu Fokotefem. Mine is just to find out that you were given an alternative debt by the ID that you can hold your ID on the 30th of September. Are you going to go by that now that this plan has failed? And also clarification when you say use cypher space maybe you can just elaborate on that. Two questions. Any other question? Please produce yourself and ask a question. I am Kaptula Hafias from Kame TV. I want to find out you did mention that the country is degrading into a police state. But this is not the first time we have seen that the police has denied delari to go on by saying security reasons. We've been during your reign. What is your comment on that? Mr President, I notice three questions. We can start with these questions of alternative debt and use of cypher space and this question about police using stopping rallies. Let me start with your question. That you also were stopping rallies. Yes. We were in government and the police were giving reasons as to why they did not want a rally to take place. That's what the law says. They would say for instance you want to have a rally in Matero on such a day. Sorry, on that particular day the police would be deployed at another event who would not have sufficient police reasons. And if they told us that we went to the police I spoke to deputy IG with my colleagues we said what are those concerns? Is it that the police officers would be busy somewhere else? And they said no we can't tell you. And we said that's not an excuse. Just to say security concerns is not enough you must explain the losses, explain the reason why we should not hold the meeting. We appealed to the minister and the minister says go and agree on an alternative date. We go to the police and we say we have come to negotiate. Let's talk. Coming back to your question and they say we give you 30th September. And we said no. The alternative to 30th September is 26th August. We want our rally on the 26th August. And they say security concerns give us cogent reasons why. They never did. And true to our expectation they were just playing monkey tricks because today they have proved they had more police officers than a require. 500 police officers what security concerns did they have? So my friend when we go back to them we are setting a date. Not them. Not them at all. They have no right whatsoever to tell us the date when we want to have a meeting. When we go to them and we tell them want the meeting on the 2nd of September then they will tell us 2nd of September is not possible because there is a big meeting, there is a big football match, there is a crisis in some part of the country we are taking all police officers there. Yes we agree. But not just to tell us security concerns. What security concerns they are in his head? He doesn't share with us. We can't accept it. No we can't. Further to your question my friend Haga indehitidema must be judged by his own words. Haga indehitidema wherever he goes whenever he meets white skinned long-nosed people what does he say? For the first time there is most democratic space in Zambia for the first time and the first challenge we put to him to prove he fails the test. The first opportunity we gave to him to prove that there is increased democratic space he has failed the test. And it's not a question of what happened before. No. It is a question of what is happening now going into the future. That's what we must be talking about. Cyber space my friend my colleagues are very active on social media and I encourage them to use social media even more. Let them stop us let them stop us using social media we are going to use more and more social media platforms to reach out to our people. But that will not replace our seal to meet our people in our small little sections in our branches in our worlds, our constituencies and also to have mass public rally. Let them again do what they have done today. And for us we've been vindicated all the time. When I say police state what does it mean when police officers can just wake up and say today Rubindia must not go to material. The police they just wake up and say Rafael Nakachinda today must not go to material isn't that a police state? Because now I'm not even sure when I live here they will not be roadblock stopping me from going to my house. Now I'm fearing that wherever I go the police are watching and such conduct is only found in police states. In a state where the police are the ones who are telling you today you can go to material tomorrow don't go at Chipputamati. Thank you Thank you president Today there were two major events our rally and the massacre the massacre of the vice president protected over 42 kilometers and we must have seen both traffic and the police officers. The police have been grave security to macho Mount event has done to me today there were over 5 of them who are challenging one of you to go to the ground so kwa lai ma parumia mune fileshitika I will ask the president and the team to stand and the MCC because I have to close in prayer MCC pray I will give you the glory and the honor