Great, so we will resume the meeting. We started our meeting this evening in an executive session as we were continuing to discuss confidential contract negotiations with the town of Royalton in regards to interlocal agreement at the transfer station. So coming out, we wanted to update everybody on, so the town of Royalton and the town of Bethel I believe the operation of the Bethel Royalton transfer station has become increasingly complex and is no longer well served by the interlocal agreement and being overseen by committee. We feel the transfer station will be best operated as a service under management of one town. For that reason, we are moving forward with transferring sole ownership to the town of Royalton. The town of Bethel will continue to be members of the White River Alliance and the transfer station will continue operations as usual. Bethel residents will continue to bring their trash and recycling to the transfer station as they always have. So coming out of session because we can't make motions in executive sessions. So at this point, I am entertaining a motion to move forward with transferring the town of Bethel's interests into the transfer station to the town of Royalton. I'll so move. I have a motion in the chat to Trees. Okay, hang on, Jean. I move that we... Oh, sorry. I move that we move forward.  I can read it, but... Hang on one second, please. So I've muted my camera. Nope, that's your audio. Okay, so Jean said I move, okay, we move forward with the transfer of Bethel's interests in the transfer station from the town of Bethel to the town of Royalton as Jean's motion. Second. Okay, all in favor? Aye. Hang on one second, I just need to write this down. Yeah, I thought you'd just be able to copy that. Well, I'm handwriting. I am copying it to the town of Royalton. Okay, so Jean moved. Okay, so now we'll just prove the agenda for this evening. Even though we've already done a part of the agenda. So is there anything else that needs to be amended or are we good to approve it as written? You're good to approve it. So moved. As there's no amendments. Second. Okay, all in favor? Aye. Any other person? Dave's not with us this evening as he's not feeling well. So he is not available in person or through the Zoom this evening. So if anybody's looking for Dave, that's why you don't see him this evening. So we do have an appointment scheduled for 6.05 and I do not see him looking right now. I do not see the parties here. So if the board's okay with that, we'll just. I'm not hearing you, is that my fault? We were having some local audio issues. So we're just going through the laptop. So at some times you may not hear Paul or Lindley as much as Theresa and I, cause we're sitting next to each other, but we'll try to convey what's happening through this. So at this point, we do have a scheduled appointment for 6.05. I do not see the. Nope. I don't see anybody definitely not hearing on a line. So for now with the board, if the board's okay, just maybe just keep it as a placeholder and if they come on or show up, we can do it at that point. So in that case, we'll just move on to public comment. So there's anything that. Did we get that motion? Yes. Yep. Okay. Cause I'd never heard it, but I neither did anybody else over here. Okay. So Jean moved to move forward with the transfer of Bethel's interest in the transfer station from the town of Bethel to the town of Royalton. And it passed. And you read the news release? Chris read the press release. Yep. Would you like him to read it again? For the sake of the other people who are visiting, I think that we should. Sure. Yep. All right. So the press release, which we'll go into the paper this week. So the town of Royalton and the town of Bethel believe the operation of the Bethel Royalton transfer station has become increasingly complex and is no longer well served by the interlocal agreement and being overseen by a committee. We feel the transfer station will be best operated as a service under management of one town. For that reason, we are moving forward transferring sole ownership to the town of Royalton. The town of Bethel will continue to be members of the White River Alliance and the transfer station will continue its operations as usual. Bethel residents will continue to bring their trash and recycling to the transfer station as they always have. So that is and will be the press release piece of it. So I mean, I think the important thing on for all of our community members here is that, again, when it comes to with our trash and recycling needs that day to day operations or ventures over there won't change. The only changes are made behind the scenes with who is solely responsible for the transfer station and its management over there. So I wanted to just make sure because there probably will be a little bit of confusion that we will sort through through the process. And once the final details are all put together then we'll pass those along. So we were bringing us up to date. Appreciate it. Anytime, Gene. So at this point, we were moving open to public comment. So if there's anything that's not on the agenda this evening that anybody would like to share or bring up now's the time to do it. This might become a little bit difficult because we do have two gentlemen that are sitting in the audience as well as half a dozen people on the computer. So we'll do our best to convey the comments back and forth as aided. Maybe what we'll do is we'll check on Zoom first for any public comment and then we'll go to in person and see if there's any public comment there. So not seeing any on Zoom site. Is there any public comment from our two individuals that are sitting in the sold out theater this evening? Yeah, I have a question. I wonder at least something about what are the ones culverts here and there. I noticed this past week the subs putting in culverts I was wondering. Yeah, we did do two. We were kind of in an emergency situation just because of the mud, having such a mud season. So we did just did two kind of an emergency situation that were Alan needed to have dealt with. So we didn't do those two, but anything else is out to bid. I just did out of Christian Hill bid. That's out. And so everything else went out into the newspaper. So it was just those two. We do have some bid that we did last year through ditching from Gilead and a portion of that project will finish in this next fiscal year in July because we have a $30,000 ditching budget. And so that portion of that will finish up and leave some money left. And I think we were headed to Brink, I think. There was a piece up there that we were gonna do because I think that was voted budget was $30,000. I noticed that one of the culverts was on Cherry Lane. That's a dead end girl, but it's not paved. It's easy one. Right, we're actually gonna be doing a big paving grant so it would have to come in at some point. So we did that one, the one up above it just kind of slid, but that one was, he said was kind of collapsing. And so we had somebody there doing one up the street. He just figured he'd do the second because we did just put out a paving grant for that. So for Christian Hill, so if we got the money, we would have had to do it anyway. So I think he just figured if they were there, might as well just take care of it. So I think it was $1,200 bucks. Not a lot cheaper to pay our guys overtime. Yeah, but he was in a position where he couldn't because the roads were so bad. He needed to get out, obviously. This was a mud season that we haven't seen in a while. So please not in the last couple of years. So the question that from the audience was that in regards to some of the covert work that has been done here of recent, we had to subcontract out some of the work while we were fighting the battles on two fronts with the mud season, as well as a covert that had failed that was being replaced. And another covert that while we were replacing failed covert was determined that needed to be replaced as well, right? That's not right? Yeah. Great. Any other public comment? Well, I'll just go on the covert. Is all the culvers have been looked at that needs to be replaced so far? We did have two rivers, came and did a huge culvert inventory. So we have a big book now of every culvert that the status of it, they derate them whether they're poor, good, fair, new, tell us exactly what they are. So I have a map, Alan had a map of the town garage. So he goes through whenever they change one, they market, and then we can send that information to Rivers so that they upgrade it. And we're actually Chris, myself, Ryan Slack, we've been working on setting up a master road to kind of have be able to put all this information into one big spreadsheet so that we can look at it and start obviously figuring out, what road's critical and kind of going that way. So that way too, if we're doing say a ditching bed, we know what on the road needs to be taken care of. We just received another better back roads grant to do more of those, and both of you are familiar with them, those projects because they're in hydrologically connected segments. So when you have to stone line the ditches and do that. So we also use that information to choose areas where roads need to be brought up to meet those standards so that we're adhering to our annual general permit. So. Okay. And we're working in, like Theresa said, we're trying to work on all the pieces of the gravel roads piece of the life of the gravel road, which we've been working on that, which we, from doing some research about every seven years, as well as like a paved road with every, you know, five or 12 years. And we're trying to get the pieces of, you know, culver's inventory and like Theresa was talking about, storm water management with ditching so that we can tie those pieces in. So, you know, we're doing some of the storm water management and, you know, a year or two ahead of, you know, gravel and roads, paved and roads. So that we get into a schedule for everything. So we're working on all those pieces. I think the other things, since we're talking about roads too, it may also be the right time to say that the current road foreman, Allen Patton, is leaving Bethel and April 22nd will be his last day. So I want to wish him the best as he moves on to greener pastures, as they say. Now, I'll reason out that with water too, because the road leads down to Finley Bridge where the North Main. Yeah, just as you pass Sanders Road going out that way, there's a short segment there. Please ask the people who are making comment to move closer to your computer. Then we will be able to hear as well. Let me try turning. Okay, sorry, Dean. Go ahead, Doug. You might want to keep. I still would invite them to move forward. You want to come up and talk a little closer? Sorry, Doug. Thank you. The reason I'm asking this was because when I come up on the North Main. Yep. Just past Christen Hill, they took the greater, which is normal to push the mud and stuff off to the side. But now it's created a barrier where just as you pass Sanders Road, there's a covert there coming off of Sanders Road to feed into North Main. From there forward, it's another down before, it's a forward that crosses the road. And then from there, which was brought frozen during the winter's thought out now, but definitely going to need some attention done to it. And from there on, it's just a little short segment, maybe about... That's coming down the hill? No, just before you get to... Sanders. Davis. Davis's house. Yep. Before Chuck Davis's? Yeah, it's Davis, Charles Davis. Yeah, on the right. Yeah, okay. Yeah, right just before you get to his place, there's another little short call. It's over here. Yes, right, I don't remember. Okay, yeah. Between there and up to the other covert, the water just running down, it's not even going into the cold. Yeah. And for that right there, this is just a suggestion. It's only would take maybe one, maybe two minutes to do it. They can just block the road off. And they can just step with the back because it's a very short distance. Okay. They can be done. Yeah, I know they're out like today. They take a spoof and they just pull it over and then they take the greater distance, which is the rest of the way off to the side. And that way that water will run from Sanders road into the first covert. And then the next covert goes to the island. There's three coals on the road that's very close together. Yeah. And two of them are not getting taken. Yeah. That was the only thing that, and it would definitely help the road to drive faster just by getting that water coming down leading into it. Yeah, sure. I know they're on Peaveyne right now and they're trying to make the rounds. Currently, we're at three people right as of today. There's three people. Hopefully, we're back to four tomorrow and then Paul is our seasonal. He may be done on Friday. So by the 22nd, I could be down to two people. So, you know, so we're both. 22 and 23. Yeah. So we, so we know, so, you know, it's just triage at this point, but they're out grading and they're just going to keep grading all week. And so, but I will point this, I know I'll point this out. I know we had Peaveyne and he's trying to get in a circle, but I definitely appreciate your, the notes and I will give them to him. So thank you. I would just say to you about that. Yeah, no, thank you. That's helpful, Doug. So thank you. So thank you. What are the plans to replace Alan? There's the advertisement. It was in the paper last week. I've released it out on the state of Holly Hayden. You can release to, you know, in the big listserv. So that's out. We're going to start interviewing this week. So the position is open until filled. Any further public comment? Yes. Just a question. Sure. Has there been any progress on the data collection by the constable? What, what do you mean? Well, you know, a few meetings ago, we were talking about collecting more police data on arrest and stops and things of that nature. And who's stopped all of that? Has there been any progress on that? What I'm, I'm drawing a complete blank right now. What I can tell you is that the state, apparently we had not released two years of our data on the state website. And that was just corrected like a week or a week and a half or two weeks ago. There was some, I don't know, technical issue between the state and Oscar, but they worked it out. So that data was just released. I don't know. I don't know. Is this supposed to be she's seen it? No, I'm drawing a complete blank here about what Oscar was going to do. I know we'd give him feedback from the EIC and he, I'd asked him to look at it. But honestly, I haven't seen Oscar for more than two minutes because he's been on mandatory overtime in Royalton. Well, there's been very limited. Yeah. Very limited coverage in the town of Bethlehem over the last, you know, probably months ago. At least. At least. But that information that was released and came back to you should give them more information, more current information. The one that we already gave them. Yeah, correct. Yeah. I know there was some issues with the statistics and I did give that information to Oscar and asked him to look at it because I said, because they had some great, Lenny and the EIC had some great points about the way things were calculating or not calculating right. But honestly, I think I laid eyes on Oscar for about 15 seconds last week. Do you think you can go through the same channels that you and the committee used last time and then just maybe get some feedback to Theresa on if it's actually been published? Sure. And then maybe what other information might be lacking if any? Absolutely. Sure. That'd be helpful. I'm assuming that's on the state site. Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty thorough. Yeah. And so he did. I mean, I would take a look at it but I wouldn't know what the difference of the data from before. So if somebody with eyes that had looked at it prior would know what was, yeah. Yeah. And that is out. I got confirmation from the state that he took care of it. Okay. Yeah, just get back on. Just let Theresa know, Lenny, on that. Sure. Thank you. Any other comments? Not seeing any. We will move forward. So the first item on our agenda, official agenda was to talk about the American Rescue Plan Act and the money associated with it. So as I think, well, probably as a majority of people have been informed in one way or another that there was some monies that were given to each town in regards to the American Rescue Plan Act which was officially, what, September? So we have received half and we'll see half next year. And we're starting to see the money and at first it was pretty strong limitations on what you could use the money for. Broadband. Broadband, internet. Water sewer. Water sewer. What was that? But it sounds like now that. They've opened it up now. Depending how you. Accept or stand up. So we've been kind of talking about at the board level of what are some of the things on our list of to do in the town that we could best use that, those monies, at this point I don't think we were going to make an official decision on what we were gonna do with the money other than to appropriate the money into a. Yeah, we've already appropriated the money in a fund.  So the town of Bethel is gonna receive $583,204.68. A motion that the select board is gonna have to make or we'll make tonight is to make a one time irrevocable decision to elect what is called the standard allowance, which is our full ARPA award and to spend it on government services throughout the performance period of the grant. So what happens is at first the feds were, you know, we all received money, but they finally figured out that since they were giving out very small awards in some cases, they didn't wanna be doing all the paperwork. So what happens is we accept anybody, they call it it's the $10 million standard allowance.  So one of the things that we had talked about originally, when we knew that the money originally was only to be used for three things. We knew that some of the money needed to be spent on replacing the sewer pumps, which is around $115 to $125,000. The sewer pumps we have now at the plant are 35 years old. We're rebuilding them now. One of them just failed again. So we rebuild them now in a schedule about every year and a half.  Upgrading the pumps is gonna be, it's a smart decision. It's the, it affects, obviously it keeps the user rates without affecting the user rates because we don't have to borrow money for it. And because it provides, obviously, downtown businesses have sewer, so there certainly is a call for that and seems like a good way to spend some of the money to help keep rates and tax rates without being affected. There's also another large generator that goes as attached to this sewer system that's on Lower Church Street that also needs to be upgraded. So we're looking at that. We're waiting on an estimate for that. If I had a number, I'd give it to you. I don't right now. So those are a couple of things. And in that case, the SELTLEC board, as in their role as water sewer commissioners, will most likely, what we'll do is we will put in an amount in the budget as a revenue for American Rescue Plan money and then an expense for the same amount. So the money will come into the sewer budget and out of the sewer budget of a specific amount. The remainder of the money can be used as a non-federal grant match, which is amazing. That helps us do what everybody is encouraging us to do, which is to leverage our ARPA money to get more money. So one of the things that we looked at the other day is pursuing a grant to replace possibly the sidewalk from the base of Sand Hill to the school. There's some places there, there is no sidewalk. Some places there is, but it's small. The retaining wall on private property is kind of falling a little bit. So it's several things that could be taken. I'm not sure we can guarantee that we would have spent the money by 2026. I think that the garage is possibly a three to maybe five year, I don't know, we're waiting on, you know, pricing right now is really expensive. So, but certainly road infrastructure helps everybody in Bethel. When it says spend it by 2026, are we talking about January 1st or December 30th, 31st? December 31st. Okay, thank you. That's a whole year different. Yeah, yeah, December 31st. So we'll have some ongoing discussions in regards to, again, like what Trey said, how can we best leverage this money? Yeah. Which at this point we're thinking the best way of leveraging this money is to find grants towards other projects and we could leverage this money as our piece of the normal, you know, either 10% or 20% or sometimes 25% piece of a project. So, yeah. And we did put that out. There was invitations boaster on town and put up to encourage people to, you know, bring some, we'll keep this on the agenda. Couple of people emailed saying some people want to use some of the money to install water meters. And some second, some would like it dressed in, you know, into the roads. Somebody else wanted to use it for, to purchase a level three electric vehicle charger and, you know, which is a pay per use charger. So, you know, so we are receiving some ideas and but for a while, everyone was the feds and the LCT and to whoever's anybody giving us input was saying basically put the brakes on and don't spend it till after. Don't do anything with it till after March 31st. So that's really why it's our first big agenda item but I think Lenny has his hand up, I think. Yep. You're muted, Lenny. Is where do you find what defines government services? Basically, it's one of those situations where it's very broad. They're basically saying that any service that a government normally provides. Okay. Big enough to drive a tractor trailer through. So we certainly, some of the money can be used which we will reserve is for if we need a single audit because if you spend over $750,000 in one year it kicks off a single audit. So some of the money can be used for that but it's funny because I attended a class and I actually had more questions than answers and I ended up calling the lady and there's a government finance specialist now through VLCT and I ended up calling Sarah Macy and having a conversation with her to see what we could do with the money. So at this point, at this point, we like to reset, we'll continue the discussion as to how we can best utilize this money going forward but tonight we're just, you just need the motion just to appropriate it as a standard allowance, right? Yes. Gene, you're muted, Gene. Two things that I would add or reinforce. I would reinforce climate change grants that may be available that they might be matched including the electric vehicle charging stations. I would also suggest that we might be able to use some of those funds to match grants that may arise out of the better connections work and so it makes sense that we would do that. Hold on, I'm gonna have to talk to my wife. Okay. And like we said, we'll continue the discussions on looking at all the different, well, I guess as we'll call it, what general services that the town provides umbrella to see how we can best leverage that money for everybody. So you just need the motion. Yep, that I wrote out. Yep. Anybody want to make a motion? Sure. I move that the town of Bethel make the one-time irrevocable decision to elect a standard allowance in the amount of $583,204.68, our full ARPA award to spend on government services throughout the performance of the period of the grant. Okay. Second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Okay. So and again, we'll continue the conversation in regard as we get moving forward on that. Yep, Lyle, you're still muted. Yep. Sorry, are you, is this an okay time for having a suggestion noted? If you wanna know one quickly, sure. Yeah, just, I know there's so much to spend money on but to consider a new town website or leveraging money towards a grant for an updated website and that importance of ease of communication for residents. Sure. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Truly noted. That's a good one. And again, you know, maybe there's an opportunity for us to do something like we just did with the Survey Monkey. Maybe there's a opportunity for us to put something together and get feedback, I don't know, or narrow it down to, I don't know. Well, it's tough, I mean. If it doesn't have options or something. Well, I think, yeah, that's it. I mean, But we'll find our best places to leverage the money because, you know, as we know in Bethel, we have lots of different things that. Need our attention. Yes, need our attention. So we'll see how we can best appropriate that money. So it has the minimal impact to our tax rate. So moving forward, we have one class one liquor license, pre-couch diner that we had in our packets. So we just need a motion to approve the class one liquor license for a pre-couch diner. Second. All in favor. We'll sign off the approved section. And then coming up, we have, as we continue, you know, the first three or four meetings of every new year after town meeting is going through appointments catching up on appointed individuals to committees and other functions in the town government. So we will continue on with that this evening. So we have some appointments here for reappointments to the conservation commission, which is Mary Floyd, Emily Miller, Sharon Griffin and Danny Dover. So just need a motion to reappoint those individuals until 2025. Second. Okay. All in favor on that. All right. You can just nod, Jean, if you want. Well, I have a question. I thought we weren't doing seconds. We don't, we're not obliged, so we talked about last time that it's somewhat of a good indicator among us. So like, yeah, I've got two board members. Sure, I didn't want to goof up the minutes because Julie's not here. We understand that we're not, we don't have to. Okay, I just want to make sure I'm following all the rules. Yeah. You do what you want. Because I guess not that it happens often, but if we got in a situation where maybe it wasn't a favorable motion, it at least gives us an indicator if we're moving forward or do we need to make another motion right now. Yeah. All right, that's fine. I just want to make sure. You're good with that, Jean. Yeah. And so we have that conservation commission. Next, we had some reappointments to the DRB board until 2023. So they're one year appointments. So we had Brad Andrews and Owen Daniel McCarter. So just need a motion to reappoint there. So I'll move. Second. All in favor? Aye. Okay, Jean's got the aye. And then we have the Revolving Loan Fund Committee. These appointments here are no terms specified, so are they just a year appointment? Yeah. Yearly? So what the situation is now is there's currently the passing of Carol Ketchum left and opening on the Revolving Loan Fund Committee. There's another person who may be retiring. As long as I've been here, there's only been three people on that board. So one person has not yet retired from it, but there's discussion of that. And then certainly Kirk White, Judy Ferland that was in the packet, Abby Solomon, have all requested to be appointed to the Revolving Loan Fund Committee, both Judy and Abby and Abby's here to meet you. Both have experience in banking, which is very nice, which is something obviously that Carol, since he passed away, he obviously brought to the party. So that was very nice. So it's nice to meet you, Abby. Thank you so much for coming. Bev Washburn is on, Bev Washburn, Carol, and then Ellen Noble. Oh, is Ellen? There's a pause, I had heard rumor, but I haven't received a resignation yet or we're retiring, but that's what I'd heard. So Abby was gracious enough to send a little more information about herself that wasn't in your packet, that she's been a Loan Officer, but maybe you can tell the select board a little bit about yourself, Abby. Hi, I'm Abby Solomon. I've lived in Bethel since August of 2018. I moved to town to take a job at a small nonprofit where CDFI that focuses on low to moderate income business owners and we're a microlender. So we lend to a very specific Vermont clientele. So our mission is to lend to businesses that are having difficulty finding capital through other means and our loans are anywhere from a thousand to a hundred thousand. So I'm the Loan Officer there. We've even in the last three and a half years have evolved a lot. We're more down to two people. So I have a lot of roles beyond underwriting and presenting to loan committees. So I write our loan documents. I close out loans after they've paid. I work with our clients as they're paying their loans and through the maturity of their loan. And the other unique thing is that we actually manage some town funds. So that is an option for certain towns is to have us manage because it is a lot to administer and manage a town fund. So I'm very, I'm familiar with how they work. I have not read anything on Bethels. I did do some brief research on trying to find that information, but I haven't been able to find that. So if I become involved, I will be very interested to see how Bethels works. But the importance of small business in Vermont, I mean, it's vital to our community. And when I saw that you were looking for volunteers to be part of this committee, I knew I was uniquely qualified for it and that I would like to be a part of it specifically for Bethel. I have worked with a couple of businesses Bethel, but this is a great opportunity to further that impact in the town that we really intend to stay in and find very important. So I can answer any other questions anybody has. That's great. The information, yeah, I can send it to you too. If you send me an email, I can scan it. It's not much there. Honestly, there's a little bit of, there's a page or two about the rules kind of and that's about it. They haven't done many loans. We did a couple last years. Sometimes it's just a refinance of something that they've already done. They did one with the local Longumat recently and then did a refinance with one of the restaurants. But it's nice. So sometimes they go for a whole year without meeting. And then they made me for a period of time. But just to go back to this, I'm wondering here, Paul is currently with Ellen and Bev, Carol's gone. I mean, and then if Ellen, you know, there was talk, she's gonna, I don't know if she's gonna, she was talking about retiring, but me and Kirk White was here. I think there was another applicant that I may have mixed up on here that was interested. I'm wondering if maybe instead of Kirk, maybe you just appoint Judy and Abby and then wait and see what happens. Like if Bev, if Ellen, you know, retires instead of, I mean, this has always been a very small committee. I don't want to all of a sudden make the committee huge when it hasn't been historically. We also need to make sure that there's a transfer of information and Bev, Bev and Carol, I think we're the primary. Yep, I think yes, definitely. Bev, it was- They both had strong banking backgrounds and things. Exactly. But it's also managing a town money. Yeah. So we're going through this with the trustee and public fund thing now. So much is a ton of documentation that has to be. It's true. Well, the good thing with them is they're only an advisory committee. They don't actually, their loans all have to come to the select board before they're approved, which is nice. But I did talk to Bev and Bev was excited about Abby and Judy because she was like, oh, thank goodness. They both have, you know, banking experience because as Bev says, I'm not getting any younger trees. So she was very excited about those two. And of course, you know, they were fine. She knew Kirk. But I'm not sure if she knew of the other applicant. But yeah, so I just didn't, you know, thinking this through, you have four people, but there's really like one slot, possibly two. I'm wondering if maybe instead of doing everybody, I don't think Kirk's feelings aren't going to get hurt here. Maybe if you just appoint the two with banking experience, see how it goes. And then if they want to grow the committee, but it seems like you got to do it alone. Yeah, yeah, what she, maybe once they have them, I'll encourage Bev to have Abby and Judy and the four of them get together and, you know, and have a kind of a meeting. So, um. I don't think that Kirk will be offended. It seems like in some ways, I think his interest is because of what the work he's doing in the legislature and he's really focused on economic development. You know, you could see that as a way to aid that doesn't, you know, exempt him from being able to help that pillar and advise the committee that's helpful. Yeah, Gene, just a clarification about Tom Gauthier. Is he, he's more interested in a town committee than this one now? Well, it was, it was obviously I made a mistake. I Chris pointed it out to me just before the meeting, but I had reached back out to Tom because that we had all of a sudden had a bunch of interest in the committee. And so I did ask him if he'd be willing to serve on another committee. And he did say recreation. So I emailed him back and asked him to attend a meeting. And I gave him the energy committee meeting because he was also interested in the, it was his recommendation about the, about the level three chargers. So I did have Kelly email Tom and give him both the next upcoming meetings about both so he could attend and talk to the chairs. He's also a fireman. So certainly he has his hands full, I imagine. Right, I just wanted to clarify. Yeah, no, thank you. I made a mistake. So thank you. No. So it looks like Judy and Abby. Okay. Is that what we're thinking? I'd go with that. Okay. To a point, Judy Fairland and Abby Solomon to be appointed to the Revolving Loan Fund Committee. Second. Being all in favor. Aye. So thank you so much, Abby. Kelly and the office will be sending you a letter of appointment and then I'll reach out to Bev and see about having, having by Lenny, see about having Bev, you know, maybe do an organizational meeting to get the four of you together. Great. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you. Okay, I'm gonna step away, have a good meeting. Yeah. Thanks. It was nice to meet you. The next one I had taught to Teresa earlier. So normally how, normally how the deputy health officer goes. So the, typically the health officer of the town can and will appoint deputy health officers to aid and assist in the practices. Currently we do not have an active, well, we do. But it's me. So currently we, currently we do not have, you know, a citizen of the town that is just the health officer. So what happens is those duties default back to the chairperson at the board. So I, as I've got my official badge. Last week, currently I'm in that capacity until we find a permanent replacement. So we've had some names that have come in and around but we are still currently looking for a person that wants to take on the health officer full-time. So currently Paul has expressed his interest in being an appointed deputy health officer to assist the town health officer, which is currently made. So I don't believe at the select board levels we have to make that appointment. But I can duly swear you. It has to be signed by the chair of the local board of health. So. Which would be you. So that would be, at this point it's basically, you know, Paul and I having something here. So I can sign his recommendation form and then you can get all the reading material that I got last week that I'm still going through. So. Do I get a badge? Yeah, you will, yes. But yours will have your name on it. Mine will. This chair of select board, so. So this appointment, usually the appointments at that level are a three-year level appointment granted just like anything else, you know, out of whatever year down the road you could always discontinue doing that when. So we kind of talked about this at a last time at the meeting, you know, we're, the intent is not to have select board members on committees or being officers of the community, but in this case we don't have somebody. So somebody has to fill in. So currently we board members or Paul and I will help until we can find a permanent replacement. So the goal is, as soon as we find a permanent replacement because Doug hasn't raised his hand yet, that we will serve in that capacity, so. So it says on the form, okay. So we have to put Paul's information and then it says, please give a brief statement noting why the select board believes the recommended individual make a good health officer. So I wrote that Paul has construction background. It's generally just a really nice guy. I'm not, I didn't write that, I'm just kidding. I don't know what else you want to say in here, but. He's so pretty. I mean normally. He's a pretty sharp guy, so. I mean normally a lot what comes into the health officer is obviously anything in the healthcare settings is helpful as well as anything in the construction trade background because usually it's a combination of looking at looking at structures and dealing with potential health, physical health issues. But it's not to say that somebody that doesn't have that field that, you know, with the proper training couldn't acquire that. And it is a position that we're looking to change the compensation on. Yes. As I noticed that we had it in the volunteer section. Yeah. Of the website. That may be a negative. Yeah, we have, we have definitely, and that's probably something that we as the board at the next, at the next meeting we should probably talk about is the compensation for the health officer when we finally get one.  Do you think it would help to have that discussion before we necessarily get somebody so it can be a bit of a sign? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Is that like, I did reach out to a handful of people. I haven't heard back from anybody, but it was a little bit awkward to be like, it's a stipended position which might be increasing, but it's up for discussion. It was like, how do I state this, that it's like. Yeah. There's a stipend that might be more. Right, the gentleman that was interested actually didn't want the money. He wanted the money to go to the deputy health officers and possibly more. I did tell him that the select board realized that they had to possibly double or triple the stipend or come up with an hourly rate. He was gonna reach out to, which I could do, send an email to Neil, call Neil and figure out, you know, how many hours did Neil think that he, you know, took on projects in the past? How many hours in a year did it take him? Although somebody new could take him longer to do that, but I think that was one thing he talked about is maybe was it maybe going from 600 to, I don't know if you'd said 2,400. I don't remember what you had said for. We were kicking around numbers, but I think, you know, I mean, within reason there's probably no amount of money that should persuade someone, it's kind of gotta find somebody that wants to do this, has some spare time. If you go online, there's a couple there, Essex is there, I think Burlington is there, and they're a full-time position that pays in the 58 to 58,000 kind of range. Of course, yeah, lots of people out there. You know, $28, $30 an hour kind of a- Is there a site, was there like, I don't know, is there an organization that could just pull that information, like every town, what they do for health officers? Only if it's listed in the VLCT compensation benefit book that they put together, otherwise you'd have to go town by town. I can look in there because they do participate in a salary survey. Yeah, Gene, there was another cycle set. Oh, sorry, a VLCT salary. Two questions, one a question and the other the comment, the comment first. It was my understanding we were going to talk about the compensation at this meeting. Second, do we need to move, have take any action regarding the assistant or associate or the deputy health officer? Or is that just something we need to be informed about? No, you'll have to make a motion because it says that the chair of the local board of health. So you would have, so the local board of health is the select board and the health officer. So right now that's the select board and Chris and his dual role. So yes, you will need a motion to appoint Hall to deputy health officer. If you wanna talk about the salary, that's fine. I guess for some reason I've had it still was up in the air but and I can look at VLCT salary survey to see if they do talk about any positions like that that are volunteer positions or stipended positions because that was Chris's question. Otherwise you'd have to look town by town. It'd be nice to know based on somewhat similar population based what their stipends might be. And just for the record, I'm not taking any stipend on this so you get the discount of the whole $250 for the year for the select board. So I can add that to the next agenda. The health officer stipend and see if I can come up with some more information. Well, all right. Currently it's $600 in the voting budget. I mean, if we wanted to throw darts on the board, I mean, I was kind of thinking based upon kind of some of the time that I've known that I've put into it that, it probably more like a $2,400 to $3,000 a year type appointed position from what I could see. But again, it's kind of throwing darts at the board. It may be like that because there's some towns where the person doesn't take a stipend. Some pieces, they get one. Some places is an hourly rate. I don't really think there's a wrong answer here. It's probably just what you're comfortable with. But it's also gonna be, I think if you're gonna have, we had talked about having a health officer and a couple of deputies. So everybody needs to be compensated. It could be X for the health officer or maybe it's split three ways equally. Everybody gets 1,200 or maybe it's hourly. So if one, if the health officer pushes everything to one of the deputies, then that deputies should get more compensation. You could be creative here. Yeah. My thoughts were to have something of an hourly between 15 and 25, but that's just what I was thinking. And it is throwing a dart, I understand that. Yeah, so I was just, that's what I was thinking in anticipation of this meeting. If we're gonna move ahead, do we want to appoint Paul tonight or wait until that conversation is over? Paul said you could appoint him tonight. I think the conversation will be more productive if we have some realistic numbers, even if we decide to go stipend versus hourly of just having some data.  I think the hourly rate is a good idea because it just feels like you can quantify it a little bit more because it could end up, you get a couple of issues and it could be a huge time suck that you don't can't account for. And like I said, I'll reach out to Neil again and see if how many hours it takes. Well, the only difference is the hourly, it's just budgeting for hours, you know? It's gonna be a flop, yeah. Maybe one year, it's $1,000, next year it's $3,000. No, it's kinda true and odd, but. No, I agree, it's definitely one of the, pieces that hasn't been updated in so long that we've all agreed that we need to get into the 21st century here with the pay on it. And I would also, just as we're thinking about this, that we are now, if we go with an hourly, we have, now we have all kinds of taxes and other kinds of other issues that need to be added to our expense. So it's not just the salary or the compensation to the officer, but there are other expenses that accrue as well. Yep, there's certainly, yeah, absolutely. There's FICA and METI and, you know, and because it's appointed, I'm not sure about the worker's comp coverage, but we can certainly find out. So are we pretty much agreed that we're good with moving forward with the appointment of Paul as the deputy, even though we haven't hashed out any of the other. So move. Second. Okay, so we won't do it all in favor, we get a second, bye. If you need an aye, but down. You have to sign up. Yeah, right there where it says chair of the local board of health. And then this call needs to complete these two forms for the first one and then there's the oath. All right. And the next piece that we had here on the list is, you know, we had talked to Therese, I don't know, a couple months ago in regards to, you know, what liabilities do we have on the books when it comes to debt based on variable versus fixed interest rates and how can we best position ourselves here with as we're seeing that the federal government is going through multiple rate increases as much as I've heard, as much as seven different potential moves this year, some of them maybe as much as a half a percent of the time. So Therese has been doing work behind the scenes of getting into what long-term debt that we have out there or short-term debt and that we can potentially refinance to a fixed rate. Yep. So she has brought to our attention that we do have the tanker that right now she would, that's a variable rate that we'd like to move to a fixed rate. Yep, right now it goes from 2017 to 2026 at a 3.65 percent and there was some odd terms in that. Remember, I think I read it to you and it was crazy. So I reached out to the gentleman and McCann State Bank and he said that if the rates were adjusted on April 7th, we'd go to a 5.2 percent. So he is saying that right now if we refinance, we can refinance to a fixed rate of 3.53 percent for the remainder of the loan, which is lower than the 3.65 we're paying now and it's gonna fix us to the difference. Obviously it's gonna change up the payment a little bit but make the payment a little higher but at least it will, the interest, we'll end up paying less interest on it. The other one was, we talked about was the bond bank and I talked to Ashley Lutz, the bond bank. She said they're constantly looking at those loans and if there's anything they can do cheaper, they automatically refinance it and reissue. The Department of Ag, I actually, her and I had a conversation about this loan about a month and a half ago and she said that she was looking to see if we should refinance but because we're currently at 3.75 percent on the town hall reconstruction but because of the type of bond that it is, we actually get a percentage of our interest back by annually in June and December so she's like, man, you're in a better position than we could do. I did reach out to Mascoma Savings Bank, our lady was on vacation and then we played a little game of telephone tag today so we knew when you signed this loan, you knew it was a 3% for a portion of it and then that the remainder was variable but they had talked to us a little bit and said that they would be able to, oh, that they would be able to do, at some point we could fix it but so, I'm not. But the first 10 years was like, fixed. Yeah, 3.75 so I did email her and asked her, you know, and that's tough because that's debt, you know, she in, they're not, we'll see what they say. Anyways, I don't know, she called me and I called her back and hopefully I can get back with her tomorrow but the rest of them are, you know, you're in a good position on your, you know, you don't have much left on sewer anyways at 3.35, 3% for water, this one is a 1% interest, 2% admin fee and then our big one is 0% interest. So anyways, I do have if, So the tanker seems to be the one that we need. Yeah, that's the one, yeah. And the gentleman was said, look, if, you know, I said, look, we're having a meeting on April 11th, I told him I would reach out to him on the 12th and let him know, but that seems like a no-brainer if you can go from 3.65 down to 3.53 and be a good move and they'll fix it to the end of the tanker. Yeah, and I think that loan goes to, for the 2017, yeah, 2031 so. Yeah, and I would agree. I think that's the right move for us there. So I guess we just need a motion to refinance. Yep, the balance of the 2017 Kenworth tanker to a fixed rate of 3.53%. So moved. Second. Okay, all in favor? Aye. Thank you, Patrice, for checking in through that. I know you had a little bit of a fun time there going through the Kansas bank. Yeah, I was like, that was Greek. That was a loan that we had taken out, I don't know, back in 2016. Yeah, before even Greg got here, yeah, so. All right, and then we have some mowing bid award. We worked, or I worked with Seesol from Washburn, the Cemetery Commissioner, and went through. We looked at how it had been bid out a few years ago. It was bid out, I don't know, before it came, I guess, and so we did look at that. We changed some of the parameters about how it needs to be mowed around headstones, the rules you have to meet with the Cemetery Commissioner the prior to each year before you mow. So we broke out three of them. So we bid out Fairview, East Bethel, and Cherry Hill. So the low bidder for Fairview and East Bethel were Harold Hooker, and the only bidder for Cherry Hill was SNS on maintenance, who currently does it now. So these numbers are like a lump sum? It's what they, 450 per mowing and 140 for trimming, 120 per mowing, 30 for trimming, and so it's cheaper. So, and then 480 for mowing and 160 for trimming. That's what their bid price was, because we had, that's the way we broken it out. So we just left Gilead. So that leaves Gilead and I think it's Lumpus, but he, there's somebody that the Cemetery Commissioner works with to get them, they do them. He has, yeah, yeah, do that, do them. So that's why we only had to put the three out. Any questions in regards to those three bids? Just enough for me, I know where the East Bethel, but I don't know how the others relate to, our map. One's at the foot of Christian Hill. Yup, yeah. Cherry Hill. And that's Cherry Hill. Yup. Okay. So then Fairview is... Headed to Randolph. If you go before Finley Bridge on the left. Okay. Or back a little ways. Yeah, I just, I think I saw that the other days. I didn't know there was a cemetery up there. Okay. That's where it is. Well, that's where it is. Yeah, it's all from Watershed. Paul's right. There's like Watershed and, not plus, but yeah. Oh yeah, I don't go out there. So that's where it is. All right. So just need a motion to award for the terms of the requirement standards and bid form. So moved. Second. Hey, all in favor? All right. It did look like the grass was starting to turn green. So it won't be long. We'll all be doing a fun mowing out there. Swatting, swatting with no sand. The allergies will be back and everything, so. Yup. We'll be the lawn. Skeeters and no sand, no sand. Yeah. The skeeters will be back. Black fly. Oh, the cemetery commissioner name. The cemetery commissioner contract with him. What is his name? It's, um, what's your name too? I can't feel, I can't think of his name. I can't think of his name right now. I'm so sorry. And I know what it is too. It's right on the tip of my tongue, but it'll come to me and I'll blur it out in a minute. Yeah, yeah, I can't think of what his name is. And I, yeah, I can't think of what his name is. It'll come to me. Like I said, I can picture what he looks like, but. Good job, you stumped her. I can't, yeah, I can't think of what his name is, Jason. I'm sorry. And Gilead. Yeah, this, I think, what, Cecil, the cemetery commissioner. You think he's gonna do it or not? No, I don't know if he does it or if he coordinates with somebody else to do it. Yes, he does it, okay. Because I think he does one of them and, um, Ashley? Yeah, his grandson. That's who does one of them. Cecil's grandson. Okay, that's his name. He does one of them. There, all right. I feel better now. I don't think of his name. So anyways, okay. Okay. Tell manager report. So we did, I put out the stone wall to bid and the one bidder was Greg Barr. So he's gone through it with me. We're gonna meet there and go through it. But this will be the second time we put this out. And he's the only bidder that the first, nobody bid the first time. So I'll provide you with the details of that after I meet with him in the next week or two. He had another project that he was doing, but he had a really good plan. As you could see, the side pieces are just to collapse and there's issues with the stairs going down and cracks there. So obviously I know how much money we have, you know, set aside that we've saved to do it. And it looks like we'll probably do it in two time, two places, get this done. So phase one was to get the pieces of the stairs done, right? The end of the stairs, yeah. And if there's a little extra money, we'll go a little further and then hopefully finish it up next year. It's an interesting situation because, excuse me, it's a concrete, you know, wall. And then it was designed to look like loose stone. But he said part of the problem is, is the mix that they used, whoever it solves, to use the mortar, he said, just isn't tough enough. And so there was like too much sand in it or something. So while he's here, excuse me, I did ask him when we meet here to look at that, sorry, I'm gonna ask him to look at the front of town hall because there's some places that need to be repointed on the hall, which Tim had pointed out when we were digging up, you know, one time I'd come by and he said, hey, let's walk around and look at the hall. So it just basically, that some of the mortar is cracked and, you know, we need to look at that. It'd be something to deal with now before it gets, you know, out of hand, at least figure out what we have. And I did finally got the roof fixed so it's not leaking over there anymore. So Bob Conn, I have a couple of Saturdays ago, finally got over to put that boot on and then bring somebody in to fix the inside. So, so anyway, so I'll have a better cost breakdown but Greg's gonna, you know, he'll fit us in here too because of the roads, back roads are so bad and some of the other towns that he can't get to them right now, he said it could be a good time for them to start getting fixed. So, which would be great. We've been trying to get that. So obviously I told you that Alan had given his notice. I submitted our paving grant application for Christian Hill. My guess is that we probably won't get that money right now. Usually paving grants come on a three year cycle but because the state also got a large amount of money from American Rescue Plan money and wherever else they're funneled through, my hope is that they funnel it through existing grant programs so we can get more structures grants, more paving grants. But we'll see, I'm going to submit a structures grant. I'm waiting for someone is giving me an estimate on when you come down Sandhill to Pevine, there's that bridge that constantly floods right there. So looking at that structure, so I'm waiting for a price right now to take that out and make that a, a box culvert. And I've also requested a hydraulic study from the state. So that'll be another grant that we'll submit. I have brought you hard copies of the accessibility audit that's on the website but I also gave you that. So I do have a hard copy of that. The, the other thing I want to talk about is there's an opportunity, it's not due till June but before I put the legwork into it. There is currently a, another large grant program out from the state for, it used to be they had safe routes to school. They've really gotten rid of that program. Now it's like a bike pedestrian program or grant program. So what, when we did part of our walk out at the other night for better connections, part of the issue that I've heard a lot about is the sidewalk, you know, for getting kids from school to the downtown.  So I had received some information about it and then reached out to read at two rivers and that's an 80-20 match or 80-20. So, you know, 20% from us. So, and those generally are four year, three or four year process because it takes, you know, once you go out to bed and then you need to have it engineered and you know, and there's gonna be some construction easement that we need to get along with permanent easement to maintain. So before I put any effort into this, I'm just curious if the select board is, that's a project you're willing to back. I think so. Yeah. I mean, we had talked about, and of course, not all of us were on the board at the time, but you know, whatever it was, seven years ago, you know, we had the whole stretch of sidewalk from, from Church Street all the way up to Pleasant Street and the first piece that was in the works when I got on the board was the Church Street which did get done, what, five years ago? Maybe? Before that, because I wasn't here. Yeah. That piece got done and the next piece, the next phase I guess you would call it that we were concerned about was the piece from, you know, the Pleasant Street piece down to the school or GW Plastics or wherever it ends was the next piece that we had talked about at that time. Yeah.  Yep. Well, maybe. For Fortitude, Saddus, and really rough addition. Yeah, pieces on the head down Main Street, right around the library and then on the opposite side that we had talked about as well. What I'm hoping is that once we, my understanding is once we finish the Better Connections project and Du Bois and King comes up with a plan and all that, that it's going to open up some avenues for grant money that we wouldn't normally get because by not going through this process. So this bike-ped program, we can get this money and this may be a case where our 20% could be leveraged with our ARPA money. So depending on how that wraps up. I could probably wheel it and give you some sort of ballpark estimate what those numbers right now are going for. Yeah. Because it's probably gonna be, I think most of that down there is Granite Curve, right? So you could probably pull up and reset that Granite Curve, tear out the old sidewalk, pour new, well, probably want to be concrete sidewalks in there. But there's also a piece, I believe it's- And then you probably want to do your drainage at the same time if you have any- Yeah, in front of this Apple Quest, the retaining wall is kind of tilting. The other thing is too, is that is not a five foot sidewalk. So is that something that, that was something- It needs to be wider. Well yeah, usually the minimum, I believe the minimum ADA compliance is five feet. So that's something that we have to look at because I don't believe that's five foot sidewalk right there either. No way. Yeah. But that whole wall there, even though it's not too high, could be a completely different, could be a game changer there, depending on what needs to be done there. Exactly, you're right, you need to deal with drainage. There's, obviously as we go down through there, there's some storm drain work that needs to happen, some storm water, but we're also, it was part of Better Connections doing our storm water master plan. But anyways, so that would be a piece and in which case, if the timing was right, we could leverage that, our ARPA money, our 20% would gain us a pretty big project. So read it to whoever's is willing to help and kind of map it out, it's a bigger grant application. So I'll get ahold of her, but yeah, it's gonna have to be five foot. That sidewalk is- And luckily it's in our, it doesn't turn, we wouldn't be installing anything in the state highway until it turns over for them before we went, so. But it's a good time to do it too, because you gotta think we're probably- GW hasn't done anything yet, so. We're probably another half a dozen years away from them milling and repaving this area again, so to have that sidewalk in just before that. Yeah, it would be good. And then especially too, if Better Connections opens up Marnie for the downtown sidewalks, then yes, we definitely wanna get that done before we deal with anything else. So I just wanted to make sure, before I put any time into this application, ask Rita that you'd be willing to support the 20% match and to see what the project is, but all right, so that's good. So then we will move, I will let Rita know. And yeah, if you're gonna wheel that, let me know, or I can- Yeah, other than the wall, I think you have a pretty good idea of what the resetting curve is. Yeah, and then, and it may be, obviously, it's gonna be, there's gonna be some legal work because of the easements, and obviously, a part of this is engineering, construction management. I mean, the grants, it grows a bit because it's that it's gonna require all that. Does anybody have any history of the area of the wall? Is it earth, or is there legend there or something? What the? I think it looks like it's just concrete the way that it's leaning. But not pleasant street for it. In front of me, I think it's Ms. Applequests. I mean, I don't know anything about that wall that's been leaning forward. I wonder what the earth is behind it. I just think whoever put it in over time, it just kept coming. It's all the kids that walk along it, they do. Yeah, well, no, they have to do like that. That's all the kids.  But if there's like lead or something there, then it could be a completely imagined, it's probably ground. Clearly it's something that is soft enough to push that wall out. So that suggests to me that there's a good bit of earth behind it, at least at the top. Yeah, it's one of those things that could be, once you get in the middle of it, could be a different undertaking. Yes, Lyle. Thanks. I just had a question that as you're looking at that grant, Terese naturally would really looking at, not just replacing it, but like safety and accessibility for students to really use it and be safe and like curb cuts and crosswalks, all of that would be a part of it. Sure, yep, yep, we would deal with drainage, we would deal with increasing the size from maybe four foot to five foot, which helps, you know, sidewalk plow and helps that, yes. And then any crosswalks that we have in, they would look at signage and all that. I know that someone had suggested putting a crosswalk up higher than it already is. It ends up down near Dennis Woods property, someone wanted a little higher, but you know, one of the things that people don't always think about is site distance. A lot of times it's 11 times the speed limit is what you're looking for for site distance, so that someone, you know, engineer would look at all that and crossing and also to, for us, the thing that would be, if we could do any sort of speed control down there to get people to slow down, but they would depend on that, maybe outside the scope, but we could ask. And such an opportunity to work with the better connections, what we learn from that and integrating, yeah, signage or flags or like, whatever we learn about safety that goes with that. Yep, absolutely. Yeah, so it would definitely be all those things, sidewalk, stormwater, safety, whether or not we target speeding, I don't know, because it's a sidewalk grant, but we'll see what we can squeak out of them. If we even were awarded the grant, but we have to apply first. Thank you. The application for safe school sidewalks, whatever, might also include that crosswalk to the ball fields from the school and sidewalks from wherever that crosswalk is to the entrance to the ball field. So you may not have heard me say that I had, when we had gone on our walk, I had thought maybe a safe routes to school grant opportunity, but apparently they've done away with the safe routes to school program, but I think this has kind of taken its place a little bit. It's like a pedestrian slash bike. So yeah, we would, obviously the great thing about these grants is it's engineering and it's a three to four year process. So everybody's got their eyes on it, but. We could talk to Bernie. So it'd be good. We could talk to Bernie. It could be the Sanders sidewalk. He wants to give away more money. Sanders sidewalk. He does. Bernie's Hill to Sanders sidewalk? Yeah, it's changed up in the day. He does want to give away more money, Gene. And I saw that from Haley that he'd extended his request for more projects. I haven't had a chance to submit anything new to him since he just gave us $600,000. I was sure how far I was gonna push my luck, but I don't have another project laid out, honestly, except currently. We will after better connections. So it may be we don't this round, but we do another round. And then we don't look as greedy. So maybe we're able to, we got money this time, not next year, but the year after. So we'll see. So that was it. I had, I just wanted to make sure that you were open to the 80-20 split. You know, we'll have a better idea. You don't have, you're not committing to anything, except I didn't want to spend the time. Right. If you weren't willing to do it. The other things in your packet is that Kelly was reminding everybody here that green up day is Saturday, May 7th. She did a little volunteer the week that was, we were talking in-house about things we could do to, you know, better reach out. And so it was actually, it was Stevie Nearon. So I was very, keeping sure he was very excited. He did a really good job cleaning up downtown. Yeah, he's still working on it. I saw him now at the store until he was doing a good job. Yep. So I think that's what nice. Stevie can do something for Stevie. You know, Stevie does get paid to, during the winter when he gets, when he's shoveling and doing, I talked to him today and he'd been doing it. He just was excited to, he needed something to do to take up his time, he said. So, and a gallon had given him a little jacket and they have a cone and, you know, he has safety stuff. So you certainly could do something more for him than you do now. Currently, what we do pay him for is in the winter. But if you wanted to do something, it would certainly let me know. But he was just excited. He wanted a copy of his own of Kelly's post, so. So thank you, Stevie. And select board minutes from the 28, unless anybody had any changes to it. Just a motion. I see what may be some editorial issues on the second page. I don't know if we wanna go through them or just say that editorial stuff can be handled offline. Okay, you can send me a. I'll, I'll send you that. And yeah, the only thing that isn't as there's, I have confusion in the second paragraph from the bottom third line up. They, on page one or two. Two. Okay, go ahead. They, if unsure if. The health officer piece. The new health officer should fill a remainder. If unsure if the new health officer would show their name. I'm just, that's confusing to me. And I don't know who they is. And I. Oh, okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Instead of if it may be supposed to be R. They are unsure. Yes, they are. Yep. I didn't even see that one. Is that a select board is unsure? Yes, you were unsure if the health officer would fill the remainder of Neil's position of a new person. So I could say the board. So that was the only thing that wasn't, that was confusing to me. Oh yeah. No, I get that. I didn't see it when I reread them, when I edited the minutes. Okay. So I will send you my copy of that page. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. Can you correct the spelling of my name? I could have sworn I hit search and tried to fix all of them. It's probably one of those things that like, well, it changes it the wrong way, you know. Where is it, is it wrong throughout? It's very first one for the first one on the ramp up. Paul, for all of your spells and spells.  Yeah, oh, here it is. We don't have the spell. Oh yeah. One time's enough, that's the way the spell is. Yeah, usually I'll hit the search and find and replace to try to pick it up. This is not uncommon. Could be one of those where it just changes it on you. When it comes, no, when it comes from, when it comes from Julie, I think it's Julie's, yeah, that keeps, I think it probably got a correct on her. I have one before too. Yeah, yeah, but I thought we had found them all, but thank you. Do you have anything else, Paul? No. Okay. We just need a motion to approve as amended. So moved. Second. Are you all in favor? Gene's good. All right. These are fast and efficient. Don't tell him he'll be mad. Everybody give Dave a call, so this is over just to let him know how quick it went. And that was 20 minutes ago. I know, yeah. That's even with the audio delays. Unless any other business come before the board. Here in motion, we adjourn. Do you know what time it is? Six at that. 45, maybe. Seven, 45. Seven, five, seven, eight. Motion to adjourn. Okay. So moved. All right. Thank you. See you later.


So now I'm going to introduce myself. Hi, I'm Vita. It's so nice to meet all of you. Like everyone here, I'm also a Rubyist, and I'm from China. I'm not sure if you like Panda or not, but I'm living in the hometown of Panda, which is called Sutran province. This is my bail, and this is my GitHub, my Twitter. So if you have any questions or just want to make a friend, you can reach out of me in those ways. I think some here might be curious about why a Chinese girl would appear on a meetup in Singapore. There is actually a reason for that. I've been to Singapore before, and to be honest, I really love this beautiful country and the kind people that I've met when I was traveling. Since I returned to home, I wondered if I could learn more about Singapore. After I searched up on the internet, I was surprised to find a Ruby SG, and even more surprised that I could have a chance to be a part of it. All right, that's why I'm here, and I think it's time to do our business. So what I'm going to share today is how to docker-wise a Rails application. Okay, so considering that some people may not know much about docker, so I will give a brief introduction to it. First of all, we need to know what is docker. Docker is a tool designed to make it easier to create, deploy, and run applications by using containers. So a container is deployed from a docker image, and it's a part of docker. Container is a standard unit of software, and that packages up the code and all its dependencies. So the application is able to run quickly and reliable from one computing environment to another. In my view, docker is a bit like a virtual machine, but it wants to create a whole virtual operating system. Instead, docker applications are allowed to use the same Linux kernel as the system they are running on. And speaking of why I choose docker, personally one of my favorite things about docker is that docker keeps the development test and production environments consistent. But it also has many advantages such as more efficient use of system resources, faster startup times, easier migration, easier maintenance, and expansion. So here I've broken down the process of dockerizing the Rails application into five steps. First one, we need to have a Rails application. Second, we need to install the docker. The third step, at least, we need to set up a docker file to customize our own image. Step four, we need to set up a docker compose YAML file to customize our containers. And the last step is to execute compose command to create and start the containers. But today time is limited, so I'll assume that we already installed docker and we already have Rails application, so we will just talk about how to set up a docker file and a docker compose file. By the way, the following materials are all from one of my demo projects. The full code and configurations can be found in my give-response directory. I'm sorry. And I have detailed how to dockerize a Rails project from scratch with me. And here is my link. So let's start with docker file. So what is docker file for? Basically docker file is used to customize a docker image. This is a docker file which is used in my previous demo project. Let's look at the first line. As I said before, we need to customize our own image. So when we customize an image, it should base on another image. And the front command is used to specify a base image. So it's a necessary command and must be put on the first line of the docker file. The third line, maintainer command, as the command suggests, it specifies a maintainer of the image. The line five to line seven, both of them use command run, which is to execute our command. The line five is to update installation source for outping linux, and line seven is to install the dependencies. As we can see, the line nine is to create an folder under which we will store the Rails project files. Let's talk about workDIR, which is in line 11. WorkDIR command is used to specify work directory, but why we need to specify work directory? So here is an example. Let's assume that I previously created a folder on my linux called test dockerfile, and then I created a dockerfile in test dockerfile. So now it looks like this. So in this example, you can see that basically I want to create the app folder in an image, then create a folder, create a file called hello.txt in an app folder. And in the end, I want to print out the contents of hello.txt, just like how we do it with show. But after I executed docker build command, now we can see the arrow below step five, which says it can't find the hello.txt in app folder. So it turns out docker image works not like show. When we show, several lines of commands are in the same process. Therefore the memory state, which is modified by the previous command will directly affect the later command. So in the show, we can print out hello.txt successfully following those commands because they are in the one process. But it works really different when we build docker image. When we build a docker image, we can imagine that we are playing a logo. And each docker command in the dockerfile is considered a layer of logos. So the image will be built layer by layer. The front layer is the foundation of the next layer. But if the field of the front layer is completed, then it won't change anymore. And any change on the later layer affects only on its own. So every layer is totally separated from each other, which means every command in the dockerfile does not affect the others. So in this example, the reason for the arrow is because when we is killed, it call hello to hello.txt command. Its working directory is not in the add folder. Since the change directory to add folder command, this command is executed in the previous layer. It doesn't affect this one, this layer. Therefore, we should use workdir command to specify the working directory. And then the working directory on each layer will be changed to the specified one. If the directory we specified does not exist, the workdir command will help you to create the directory. Okay, so let's go back to 13. At line 13 and line 14, I want to copy my local gene file and gene file.log to my target path. At line 15, I set Rails environment variables to production. At line 16 is to install bundler. Line 17 is to check bundle version. At line 18 is to kill the bundle install. Look at line 19. Okay, here I've got something to talk. As you can see, I want to copy all the files under the path where the docker file is located to the add folder. But here's a question. Since I have to copy all the files into my image anyway, so why do I have to put gene file and copy gene file and copy gene file.log separately before the run bundle install? So I put an example here. Let's assume that I just modified an HTML and now I want to review my image if my docker file is like this. So at line 13, I copy all my files to the add folder. And run bundle install is at line 18. So the action of copy all the files is in front of the run bundle install command. Then when I build my image, it will work like this. So here is a list of bundle install. As you can see, docker will execute all the remaining commands from the line where I copied all the files. So the run bundle install command will be executed whether or not the gene file and gene file.log are changed. But according to my original settings, as long as I don't modify gene file and gene file.log, then run bundle install command won't be executed. And when I build my image, it will look like this. So here. And there is not a long list of bundle install. Okay. So let's go back to the last line. And the last line we will execute the commands to create tables. Precompile our assets before pushing code to production and create profile to config directory. But one thing we need to be careful is the CMD command is the start command for the main process of the container. So since the CMD command is used to start the main process, there can only be one CMD command in a docker file unlike the run command, which can be write multiple times. All right. And that's for the docker file part. I'm going to jump to the step four. So set up docker file, docker compose file. What is compose? First of all, we need to know what is compose? Compose is a tool for defining and running multi-container local applications. We use compose YAML file to deploy containers for images, from images. And the second thing we need to know is what's the use of docker compose? In our daily work, our project often requires not only web service but also databases and may also need to use engines for load balancing. So when we dockerize our projects we often meet situations that require multiple containers to work together and compose just fulfills such a need. It allows the user to define a set of associated application containers as a project by setting up a docker compose YAML file. So here, finally, we're going to talk about our docker compose file. Here it is. Let's look at the first line. The version key. The version depends on the docker release. There is a table in the docker documentation that maps a different version with their respective docker releases. The second line, services key. Here is something I need to talk. Docker services are what that makes up our application which will be built as different containers. And services act as the organs of our application. So here we've got three services, app service and DB service and engine service. So, okay. Right now we are going to break out our first container and it's also called app service. Line 4. The build key specifies the path where the docker file is located. The path can be either absolute or relative and compose will use the docker file to automatically build an image and then use it. <IP_ADDRESS>.6. So, we can specify the port in the container to the host or we can just specify the port of the container in this way. But when the host will randomly but if we do so then the host will randomly select a port to expose the port inside the container. So in my docker compose file I mapped the port number and to the host the value. <IP_ADDRESS>.10. Or setting environmental variables. Line 11 depends on depends on key resolves the container dependency and the sequence of start-up seed issues. When way is queued docker compose out it will start services in dependency order as defined the way it depends on. In this example DB will be started before the app service. So, alright let's look at our DB service. This service is for installing our post-grade code and running it as a container. It will pull and already view the image which is version 10.12 of post-grade from docker hub. I also pass the required environment variables in it because time is limited today so I'm not going to talk about how to set up engines with docker compose maybe we can talk about it some other time. Let's jump to our last step. After everything is set up now all we need to do is run docker compose out and run docker compose out. The command docker compose out will create services, start services and associated services related containers based on the settings in docker compose for example file. The hyphen d is a detached mode which will run the containers in the background and then app will be built with all the containers and you can view the containers with docker ps hyphen a and here it is. So first is my engines container and second is my app container and last one is post-grade container and we also can check it on browser but never mind it's just an demo. What if we want to delete and solve and delete the containers if we want to solve and delete containers we just need to run docker compose down so it will delete the containers defined in the docker compose demo file. As you can see first of all docker will stop all the containers defined in the docker compose file then it will remove all the stop containers. All of those are what I want to share today so if you have any questions please feel free to ask me. Anybody got any questions? It was a good session. Thank you. Thank you. I'm so nervous. I'm sorry. No, it's fine. So good. It's my first time to share anything on the internet actually. Actually I have a tie here. So let's say also I'm from China. Oh, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. How can I stop to share this? There's a stop share button. No, I'm sorry. Which one? Ah, I see. I don't know. You have to stop share before I can share again.


I remember I was in UK for two months and I didn't know that there was a water problem and I came home three, four days ago and my sister told me that she told me don't use the shower, use the… use the bucket of water, you know it's… I've… so many of us are unaware of situations and can you throw some light on how this has happened and what we can do? The most basic ignorance about rivers is people think river is a source of water or a well is a source of water or a pond or a lake is a source of water. In a tropical country, it is not a source of water, it is only a destination for water. There is only one source of water for us which is the Monson Rain. That's the only place from where water is coming. So the… the rain that comes down, which normally happens to us in this country, somewhere between forty-five to sixty days maximum in a year rain pours down on us. A huge volume of water comes down. When this comes down, our ability to hold it in the soil will determine how many days in a year will the rivers flow. If we hold it, then it flows three hundred sixty-five days. If we do not hold it, it will run away within the next fifty or hundred days and that's why it's going dry right now. So what allows us to hold the water? The only and only thing is vegetation. There is no rocket science to this. This has been my main mission across the world including United Nations, our government, central government, all the states, we convince them you cannot hold water in a dam, check dam, barrage, all these things. These are all okay for usage but you cannot really enhance water like this. The only way you can hold it is by vegetation. When I say vegetation or let's say forest, the possibility of increasing the forest cover is impossible in India. We are 1.3 billion people, it's estimated by 2030 we will be 1.5 billion people. So there is too much pressure on the land, there is no way to increase the forest cover. The only other way is to go for agroforestry. That we use forests as a livelihood for ourselves, we grow forests for wealth, we grow forests for economic reasons. So right now to assist the farmer to shift to agroforestry, there are a few things to happen. One thing is the saplings, large-scale development of saplings. We are looking at in twelve years to plant 242 crore trees, that is 2.42 billion trees. If we want to do something so massive, it needs a very organized effort and it needs a certain agility, which normally... I'm not trying to criticize anybody but normally the state governments don't have such an agile machinery to act. So in Tamil Nadu we have about thirty-two nurseries spread across Tamil Nadu. So we've planted over thirty-five million trees in the last eighteen years, all on our own steam, that is no government help, no nothing, just as a movement, people's movement. Now this needs to scale up big time, so we have clear-cut plans how to multiply this. Today there's tissue culture, we have all the technologies, everything, you know, we've assimilated all these things properly. The reason why we are doing many things and including this is without a large-scale people's involvement, this is not going to happen. This is not a single-handed job. This is not just my work or your work or somebody else who is here. This is a generational work. As a generation of people, we have taken the largest bite out of this planet. Never before, another generation has consumed as much as we have. So I'm just thinking before I fall dead, let's fix it to whatever extent we can, so that future generations don't look back and see we were the most irresponsible generation ever. In a way, we are, unfortunately. Because the way I saw Cauvery fifty years ago, or let's put it this way, the way the previous generations gave Cauvery to us and how it is today. If we hand it over like this, this means we are a disastrous generation. So I want to see that we are not a disastrous generation. We will fix it to whatever extent we can. Nobody should say we have not done what we should have done. Because in our lives, if we do not do what we cannot do, there is no problem. But if we do not do what we can do, we are a disaster. So I don't want to be that disaster. I want to ensure none of these people, the people of this generation are not a disaster, that we will do everything we can do. But the important action that is needed right now is this, that we need to raise seventy-two crore saplings in the next four years. Four years this plantation must happen means in two years we must raise. In four years the plantation must be over. Then only the twelve-year plan that we have will go by that. See at this stage in my life, twelve-year plan is not a good plan. But I've taken this, don't make it twenty years, please make it twelve years. So that the last part of my life I can gulf around a little bit and goof around also a little bit.


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There's a new thing in town called the air fryer. I've never heated pizza on an air fryer, but I wanna see if it's as good as everyone says it is. So this air fryer does have a pizza setting, so I'm gonna use it. Whoa. That is pretty, pretty golden. Now let's see if it's crispy. You know, I like my Chris's test. It's pretty crispy. Crispier in some areas. It's nice and golden brown. The cheese has definitely melted, but let's give it a taste. This is pretty good. I might have to get an air fryer. It's very quick, took about four minutes. This would really work. I'm very impressed.


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